T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: hey, so just got a second-hand laptop and it seems its operating system was removed...trying to load one now but it keeps failing and telling me to run CHKDSK /F...where/how do i do this?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: probably off of your OS disk that you're trying to load it from
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: it should have some basic command for stuff like that. You might need to format the hard drive first.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what os are you trying to install?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: windows xp professional sp2
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: xp is no longer supported, in case you didn't know.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: its strange that it asks you to run chkdsk - perhaps the hard drive has some faults?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: do you know what os was on it, before?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: its a few years old, shouldnt xp still work?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: no idea what OS was last
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: if laptop is new then xp may not work
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: end of life for xp was in 2014
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: might/will/should still "work" though
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: Iirc, didn't XP use a different disk format than previous OSs? If the hd is formated for the older one...
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: did you format the c drive before trying to install the new os?  i would think that would be the 1st step.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garrot Tech: Could try an fdisk.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: ^
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: think its older than 2014, not certain...also i have no idea how to format
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: google is your friend. - how install new os. or something like that.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i think xp asks you during installation if you want to reformat the drive - i assume you already answered yes?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: i would suggest making a live boot of linux to see if everything except the hard drive works
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: the drive might be shot
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: When you put in the disk that you're trying to install from, what comes up?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: live boot doesnt need a hd, but you might need to be a little tech savvy to use it
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: didnt come across anything asking me to reformat
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: what did it ask you?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Windows-XP             
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: when i put the disk in it asks if i want to boot from cd, i select yes, it loads some files automatically then a blue screen appears telling me an error happened and windows has shut down..then it tells me to reboot if its the first time ive seen the message, or to run CHKDSK/F if ive seen it before
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: TL
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: is the error with the hard drive or the boot cd?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: TL;imtoodumbtoread
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garrot Tech: blue screen of death. Could be a hardware error.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: Yeah, if it's booting from cd, then it's not even getting to the hard drive before it errors out.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: prob a good idea to try a linux cd - you could even install it and like it :)
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: always a good idea
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: no idea, as i understood the message id only find out by running chkdsk
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: It's erroring on the cd boot. I think it'd to the same from a linux cd. :p
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: linux being an OS?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: look up how to make a linux live boot, its not hard and all you need it a usb flash drive
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, Ubuntu is cake for windows users
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Ubuntu is a linux distribution
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: ok, ill check that..thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: go for cd/dvd first if laptop has it, i find usb boot can be tricky
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garrot Tech: Could be worth running diagnostics software on it.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: the live boot doesnt even need a hdd
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: so if its the drive youll be fine and youll know that it was the drive that was the problem
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: Linux isn't that hard to use if you have ever used Win command line. It's similar, just some syntax quirks
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: to be clear, getting a new OS disk wont help?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: it might
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: no idea what windows command line is
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: not sure where the problem is at currently, trying a new installer will help work out where the problem lies
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: if it's the OS disk. Otherwise, you might need a new cd drive.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: or just clean it well.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: linux is free, so its a no harm no foul situation if you want to try it out
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: You'll need to look up the command list for the Linux distribution you use.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: ok, so ill try this linux and check if that helps
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: or use a distribution with a simple GUI to get started..
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: distribution?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: Would help if you told him which those are.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: i suggest ubuntu, its a lot like windows
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, it's like a flavor of linux
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: Linux has multiple versions for different needs.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: basically like a version of the OS
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Linux rocks man... I'd recommend trying linux mint for newbies... 
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: it even has an app store thing to help you get programs
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: you can see a list of popular versions of linux here: https://distrowatch.com/
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I suggest Ubuntu for a first time
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: well ubuntu is good, too that's what I'm using, but it's not set up quite as much like windows is...
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: ubuntu is good except for that desktop manager, its really weird
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimmering Silverdrake Tech: Lol. My computer guy gave me one that ran on command line, because I'd been using MS since DOS 4.0. :D
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well I think he's just trying to debug possible hardware issues..
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: yeah unity isn't quite like windows, linux mint is based off ubuntu, and the cinamon desktop manager looks more like windows...
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: unless you go kubuntu... kubuntu is more like windows too...
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: but kubuntu's a bit bulkier than cinamon..
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Archbang is the quickest one I've ever tried to boot off of and install time but very minimal
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: is sharptracker still somewhere on the aardwolf website?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's still available. Don't think it was ever on Aardwolf websites, though.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Might check the Wiki.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: well does anyone have a link for the .xml file?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not offhand, but you can easily find it yourself...
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hell, finger opochtli for the link. *shrug*
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: ty
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lushen Tech: Hey , my mush has crashed , well it just wont start up as it send me this message when i try start it "the application has failed to start because lua5.1dlll was not found."
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lushen Tech: i have no clue how to fix this and i didnt do anything to it
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hrm
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you could unzip it again but make a backup
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you can just copy the two files lua5.1.dll and lua51.dll from the zip into the main MUSHclient directory
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lushen Tech: ill see if i can do that
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: okay I need help with a simple trigger, this is really my first time using mushclient triggers and I'm trying to learn how to use them
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: I have a simple trigger You have completed * campaigns today. it then says gt you have completed %1 today. okay but the problem is, I have multiple you have completed * campaigns today. is there a way to make the trigger ignore the next you have completed..
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: How do you have multiple matches of that?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: because I use search and destroy and it automatically cp chs after completion 
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: or mine does anyway
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: is there a way to stop that.. maybe?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You have completed * campaigns only show up under campaign today, as far as I know.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: when you complete a campaign it shows up at the bottom
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay, so that's two places.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: that's my point..
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: I need to ignore the second one
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: how do I do that?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: can you?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Create an alias for cp today that enables the trigger and then disables it after it fires.
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: okay I'll try that, thank you very much :)
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nibir Tech: who has fixed version of sharptracker again?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hadar
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: apparently I changed this: You receive 137 experience points.  to dark cyan, how do I change the color back?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: find where you changed it and remove the "" from it
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: err "@c"
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: @c
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: must be a trigger with that in the pattern line
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh or you changed the dropdown box on the right side of the trigger to display in that color
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: just change it back to Change colour and style to: (no change)
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: I don't know where it was changed at.. or I would have already
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well if you open up your triggers don't you see one that has that experience line pattern in it?
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: it was something else, a plugin added, nm
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bartard Tech: if I want to use the aardwolf mush client in windows does it alter mudlet when logging through linux somehow?
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't alter mudlet, but it will do things like turn on tags to perform things like channel capture
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bartard Tech: my mudlet seems different... missing char stats for example, maybe more
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but best to use the aard MUSHclient package on both windows and linux
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bartard Tech: so use wine/mushclient on linux
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, that's how the aard MUSHclient package is developed, actually
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bartard Tech: ok thanks for info! going to look into then.
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://abelinc.me/maclinux is the web page from the aard client's site about it
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bartard Tech: appreciate that, tx again!
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: h I get this Alias function "xrun_to" not found or had a previous error.  after i clicked on a destructive jotun in S&D Gui, how to fix ?
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Try reloading - it happen every time?
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: I click smart refresh, then on a new cp mob, i get that every time, i hace to rt to area manually then it only works
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: It dont wanna rt area automaticly once i click on mob name
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No idea who - but think someone is still updating - could try talking to them. Or post detailed note with FIRST error message on tech board.  The error you mentioned is when the function is called after an error is give, and reloading should clear it.
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: ok ty
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: after an error is giveN
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: it worked now ty, reloaded plugins
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: IT worked only ones, now i clicked on a deer from beer and i get again Alias function "xrun_to" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: only problem with S&D now, is that i have to run manually to cp area, then click on mob names work.. but wtf, it dont want to run to another area with a cp mob
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: Winkles spellup plugin works likes a voodoo charm.
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zephron Tech: Is it possible to increase the font of the input area in the mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zephron Tech: Thanks, much apreciated.
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You ever get any takers on that miniwindow bounty?
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: well, since you're asking for questions, what's the easiest way to make a text file - start and stop  ?
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: right now, i'm just doin a cut and paste into text editor...
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What do you mean by start and stop?  What are are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: just read in a text file line by line?
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i have an alias which outputs some ranking type text i generate - i want the text file to start capturing at beginiing of alias and to stop at end and to name the file
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: start = true, in OnPluginLineReceived capture/process lines, ask for file name
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: finger Mendaloth and get his eq exporter plugin
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that seems to do similar thing you want to achieve
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: yeah i looked in that file and it looked pretty complicated to me
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i don't have to ask for a file name, it's always gonna be the same
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok if it's hardcoded
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just examine Save_File function
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: OK, I'll give it a second look
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you just need an alias to start exporting and another one to stop (or trigger to stop)
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: yeah sounds like you want a trigger, though the alais can turn the trigger on and fire whatever command you are capturing
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: with hardcoded you just do: alias start (capture = true, open io.output (filename)), then in OnPluginLineReceived if capture = true f:write(line) 
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then in some trigger/alias stop - capture = false, f:close()
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: f:close() closes the file, I assume ?
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: thanks, Trachx :)
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: thank Mendaloth for his plugin, I just read that Save_file body
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok what else
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: miniwindow bounty?
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, hm..
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes but I wasn't happy with it so didn't use it
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: improvable or not saveable?
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I paid and then scrapped it
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: really only thing I feel Mush lacks...
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I have a pretty complicated set of thoughts on how it should work if you want to work on it
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I am not the right person
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: everyone is the right person
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Miniwindows have always been foreign to me
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Cue joke that Everyone hasn't been on in 1982 days...
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I get what they are doing in concept - but heck if I could do it from scratch
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: miniwindows aren't real
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Creating miniwindows in MUSH sucks. With that said, it's also very customizable, too, once you get it down.
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: was loading an older plugin and get this error:inv
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: nvm
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: ok, looking for a stat reporting tool that works with id
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: Yesterday if i clicked on a cp mob, snd takes me there, but today im getting You have no idea what you're doing, but maybe a jotun is up?
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: did you remort
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: No
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: your hunt trigger is not hitting the message
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: more importantly that is not a campaign mob, it's huntable
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: How do i fix it pls
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: if its a cp mob you cant hunt it
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: practice hunt
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's that the trigger was changed, and so you need to update your hunt trigger so it fires properly.
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: I dont wanna hunt it, i want snd GUI to take me there
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: gui needs to know which one it is.. then it takes you there
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You have to hunt it initially.
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: S&D needs to "hunt trick" it to figure out which one is correct...
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But the unlearned hunt message needs to be updated.
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's hunt tricking the wrong one, but not noticing that it got a response from the MUD
T3/r7/2017-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: tech ok ty
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: how do i clear the cexit in mapper?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maokai Tech: mapper help exits
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: right click the room and delete exit
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: ah nice, thanks !
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i wonder how to diagnose why my mapper takes a longerroute if i goto vs walkto. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: walkto doesn't use portals?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: correct, walkto does not use portals
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but walking is faster than portals?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what rooms are you moving between where using a portal is slower?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yeah, so weird. the portal use the garbage can. i delted the garbage can then it uses the storm ship
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is your mapper portal using some alias which itself contains speedwalks?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you do that the algorithm still counts that speedwalk as only 1 move
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: when i look at mapper portals, each portal is listed to take my portal from my bag and use it, nothing else
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well what is the path for walkto / goto?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowSkil Pretz Tech: so i have a question that i am sure is basic to most people. i had a script working before but then my hard drive died and i cant remember how to get this working again. i had a script called search and destroy and it worked really well for me, i found it again (i think) but cant figure out how to make it work with mushclient
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish yawns.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: where is the latest Search and Destroy?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nokfah
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: whats the command to update mush?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: package update check
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but just for you, my friend, there is also an installer: https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: that does the package, not mush itself?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: mush is manual and seperate then
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i am getting notices for mush 5.04, but i am running package 1887
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 5.04 is a bad update, so I'm keeping the package on 5.03 until 5.05 arrives
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: been having issues with my current configs, so was looking at the update.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what issues?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: stuff just stops working.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i have an issue with a bast plugin as well.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Me personally, I download the package and install it in a seperate directory... so I keep a backup just in case...
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Are you on windows?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: just copy your .db .mcl and plugins over...
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i think the issues is in my .db file
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my installer avoids the need to copy things over, but you're right that it will not automatically preserve a backup copy of the old files
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: like today my miniwin_moonbot stopped working
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did it show an error message?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: worlds\plugins\Bast\lua\miniwin.lua:1539: attempt to call global 'strip_colours' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: I don't do the installer, I just download the zip and try out the new version *before* getting rid of my old version *just in case* something's fishy with new version is what I mean
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i have been running the same version for a while now, things just seem to be going down hill for me.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: download the .zip file and start a new, copy your .db over you're .mcl and your plugins
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: type checkversion for me
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: leave the copy you have workin' good alone, mess up a fresh copy basically :P
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: You are currently using Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: r1887
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: strip_colours exists in r1887. If that suddenly stopped working, then something else is going on
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: thats what i though.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'd be mildly concerned about errors like that happening suddenly
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it could signal data corruption 
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: there was a reason i was asking for help... i do run from dropbox
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it could also signal a dropbox error
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose the best solution there is to reload the plugin after it errors and see if the error goes away
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, 5.04 definitely won't fix that
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: sadly thats not the only error, (just the only one i have had sence i logged in today
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: ok, i will redownload and setup everything.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: aardwolf.db, and aardwolf.mcl (and pluggins) are all i need right?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no no no
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you'll lose any plugin state too if you do that
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: unless you copy the entire plugins folder, in which case you're also transporting any corrupted files
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: heh, yep.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: How about just the states folder?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: the corruption is more likly in the stats file then the plugins isnt it? seeing they are written to a lot more.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: at least the problem you've reported so far wouldn't be caused by a state file
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: ok.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, if there were actually a problem with strip_colours the mapper would also fail when you map a new room
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: mapper seems ok
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: then it's probably just dropbox
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: and really the only info that would hurt to loose (state wise) would be the mapper work i have done.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the mapper doesnt use state files for that
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: right
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but have you tried moving your folder to not dropbox and see if the problem goes away?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: it writes back to the main db file correct?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "Aardwolf.db" is the map database. there's no "main" here
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the name is just chosen to correspond with the world name
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose I could have done that better, but it can't be changed now
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: hm.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Aardwolf.db _only_ stores mapper data, not anything else
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: ok.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, this is all just to say that, while you could of course reinstall and do a little dance and shake a chicken three times, until you find out if dropbox is causing this you'll just be stuck in a loop
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you want to reinstall my stuff, including mushclient, I recommend using the installer I linked earlier and point it at the same directory
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: ok will try moving files out of the dropbox folder.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you need to reinstall bast's stuff, it's all pretty self contained
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: be right back i will move the folder first.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: ok time will tell now.
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: what db format is the mapper db in?
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I'm guessing it's sqlite
T3/r7/2017-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: it is sqlite
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: using s&d, when i try to auto run to call of heroes (using xcp) it says it can't find the path, but when i rt from recall it goes to the same room and works as if xcp were fine. Do I have something set up wrong?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: xcp isn't supposed to work over long distances I think..
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: is that all it is? over 300 rooms away?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: That's because you're missing a cexit
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: usually I'd say
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: check out the speedwalk to heros...
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: oh on the way to heroes
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: yeah the open w, and the knock door
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: aha thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: than it'll work, had to do the same thing :P
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lushen Tech: ahh you probably have a cexit mixed up, mine has that problem also i end up in touchstone clan when my mapper try to rt jotun , lol i havent found what ive messed up
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Mine still does that too Lushen :P
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: works fine now, thanks y'all!
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ahoj
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: latest fun filled adventure in trying to write an extension for the Edge browser: https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/platform/issues/10396033/
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Doesn't crash for me
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it doesn't crash before 15.14986
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Just says "Invalid Character"
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh, you're an insider?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: whats a good place to check how certain gpu/cpu combos would work together? games of course
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also, if it's saying invalid character, I assume that's because the box hsa seemingly replaced some of the " with special quotes
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i know theres futuremark but its synthetic
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: sorry for interrupting
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which is itself hilarious
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I'm not an insider so I can't replicate the problem. It works on 14.x
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well, it works for some definition of works
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: And yes, it changed to special quotes
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: actually msSaveBlob that you have is probably also not working correctly. I assume it opened in notepad automatically?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It asked if I wanted to save it
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh it did? the other must be only an extensions problem then
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or this is a regression
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Which insider build are you on?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://software-download.microsoft.com/pr/Windows10_InsiderPreview_Client_x64_en-us_14986.iso?t=46286999-346c-4a25-8629-5dd2c8c163ee&e=1483626370&h=89cde2ef0c612dfc514e6efcbf684856
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Ah, yeah. I'm on release preview. Your Edge might simply not be complete
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I'm not even on release preview, I'm on release. :)
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I only updated to 14986 because of this other bug https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/platform/issues/10172350/
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, I wouldn't say I know for sure that running preview builds is why you are having problems. It's just a guess on my part.
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Do you need the copyright symbol? 
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: pretty sure preview builds are needed to develop extensions
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: we talking about the new IE6 release?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and no I don't, but wtf lol
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, I know... It's a wtf-moment
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I prefer Edge since it is faster/performs better than other browsers for me. But then again, I don't create extensions so I wouldn't know how far the support has gotten for developers.
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm only trying to create an extension because Edge doesn't let you save text files
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: weird
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: navigate to https://raw.githubusercontent.com/fiendish/SaveTextFilesInEdge/master/testfiles/%C8%A7%C3%A4.txt and try to save it
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: i dont even have edge dled on my home pc. neverming my work mac.
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Can't save it from a hyperlink to it?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did I give you a hyperlink?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: You gave me a direct link to the file
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: But on a page that links to the file
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what page? I didn't give you a page that links to the file
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: pretend I gave it to you on a piece of paper
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: No, I know. :) I mean, can't you save it if you have a homepage with a link to it?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: saving files is the second most important feature of a web browser after looking at them
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and edge can't do it
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's actually slightly worse than that...
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: If I right-click a link to something I can chose "Save target as" in Edge
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you pop open the dev console in Edge and look at the source for the page you'll see a bunch of imaginary HTML tags that have been hallucinated by Edge
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: _if_ you have started from a link to something and aren't looking at the thing already
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: edge will not have web midi api as MS said. so. no edge for me, ever:P
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what if you got to the thing via redirect?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: No, I can't save it if I have it open
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or what if you got to the thing because I sent you some text over aardwolf and said to paste it into Edge?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I can only save from a hyperlink on a webpage
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah. that's messed up.
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Agreed
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no midi? :(
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: now I'm really sad
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Isn't webMidi still experimental (it is only supported in experimental browsers without support)?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: heh. no midi yes. there are millions of musicians out there that no one cares about. well.. chrome and opera saved the day
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: in chrome it works fine so far
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: had running for 10 hours and didnt crash once
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, I prefer not running experimental code. :)
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: all code is experimental
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: if theres a trouble with the experimentality, i can always go back with that midi.js thing.. would be a headache but whatevs
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, but standards that are still being explored
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I prefer standards that has at least been drafted
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: with that midi api, its so simple and all is so straightforward that when they decide to change things, its gonna be a few clicks probably
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, it looks promising. Hope it can be drafted and implemented on all browsers soon. :)
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: btw. i had a horrible experience with web audio api instead. once i almost finished the app and started testing after 4 months of writing, it turned out that chrome was able to play for 10 minutes, then started choking. cpu was clogged
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: and there was absolutely no solution
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: so i stopped working on that app. started another with midi api. i was 2 months in and checked back to the old app. now it works flawlessly with chrome:P
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyone here using a client other than mushclient who knows whether the client is able to trigger on unterminated partial lines that don't end in EOL?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Hmm - not sure I understand the question....is the trigger regex with anchors?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I mean if aardwolf sends a line that doesn't end in LFCR, it just dangles waiting for input
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ahh
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Is there any way to get such a line from Aardwolf so I can test?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: paging prompt is an example
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Oh without a C at the end
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ok will test after double
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not your prompt
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I mean what you get with pagesize 10
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: set pagesize 10 and then note list or something
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the resulting prompt is unterminated
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: [ Paging : (Enter), (T)op, (Q)uit, (B)ack, (R)efresh, (L)ast, (A)ll ]: 
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: OK thanks, even better I don't have to fiddle with my prompt!
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Can confirm, on tintin the trigger (or action as they call it) fires on the paging prompt...didn't look to see if there was actually an LR at the end though...
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: Could anyone help me with a mushclient question?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: I have two xml files i want to add. I've never done that before.
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: are they plugins?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: yes, file-plugins-add has been instructed to me
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: file > plugins > add 
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: that should load them
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: can you edit an existing cexit, or do you have to delete and redo it?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you can edit it
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: right click on the room in mapper and click change exit
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: ah, thank you sir!
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: oh, that just changes the room, not the cexit command
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: how do i remove something from a plugin?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: What kind of 'something'? That's very vague
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: erm, like if there's a special alias that clash with my favorite alias
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: You can open up the plugin in something like notepad (notepad++) and edit it. I would recommend renaming the alias instead of deleting it
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: interesting thing is... i don't see it in the plugin file via notepad LOL
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: but it still works
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: oh! i have to re-log, now it works
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: thanks Grushnak!
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Anytime :)
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone have a plugin that parses notes? i want to take a note, and store some data about it in a database
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goblinator Tech: can you plug a keyboard into a laptop?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: absolutely
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, as long as you have right connection port on the laptop
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like a usb port
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what is the special alias that conflicts?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: I created a MUSH alias l1 and send 1724404107, my bag number. When i type put all l1, it doesnt work. BUt if i only type l1 then it works and bring 1724404107 to the front. Useless now, whats wrong?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thats not how aliases work
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: li *
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: So what is the answer
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: you need to make it a variable instead of an alias.. and honestly I don't know how to call a variable from prompt line..
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: um.. create alias l1 *   > put %1 123123123
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: NO, i want l1 to call back onlt 1724404107 , so i can use mannully look in l1. get all l1, put all l1.
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's easy enough.
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I did that with bag1 (bag.1)
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, bah, still works.
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Let me pastebin my alias.
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hahaha Tech: How does a mush noob like me do it?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i think you may have to make several aliases for different commands then. use * to indicate the variable and %1 in send
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: you can do it like this: create a Regular expression alias: ^(.*)\bl1\b(.*)$ with the command %11724404107%2
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: http://pastebin.com/VD8mwMsG
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i have something like this: 
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Mine allows for multiple bags.
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Probably the best way to do it, too.
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: get all from bag1 will return get all from 1049120
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: eh, can't paste it
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or I can do bag2, bag3, etc.
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What's the error it's coming up with, Algaru?
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i was going to paste my alias, but it says the variable isn't defined. need to escape it. it's fine, i looked at your way and that looks better anyways
T3/r7/2017-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I am using Mushclient. I want to ensure I have the fastest paths to the start of areas. I went to the continents and used the 'mapper unmapped here' function and fixed all those rooms. Is that enough or do I need to ensure the continent is 100% explored?
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: IIRC, the map that comes with aardmush has the continents and aylor preloaded as of the package date, which is why you need to go to areas added after that using mudside runto or exploring the unmapped exits
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: so additional exploration should not be necessary to find area entrances with the exception of inferno or something
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: now, what should be explored that would not otherwise be a part of a stock map would be area exits in open clan halls
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Thanks, Dash. Technically speaking, how is the mapper able to know those new areas exist and are unmapped? Does the bigmap continent load all the room numbers?
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: areas after the map was created, or otherwise new ones are only learned by your map when you enter them. so say if a new area is added, use the mudside runto command to go there the first time
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I see, so maybe I used the mudside command to runto an area, then the mapper picked up that there were unlinked directions
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: and when new areas are created, extra tiles are not added to the continent outside the one for the entrance
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: database entries that make up the map are updated when you enter a room. so if an area entrance replaces a room, exits are updates when you walk through the rooms adjacent
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: how do i include an apostrophe in the in-world alias?
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: better question: why do you need an apostrophe in an alias?
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: haha...
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: it's complicated..
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: TLDR i'm trying to alias a string which reflects the name of the room where my questmob resides.
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: and sometimes roomname have apostrophes
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: room names*
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: then I guess you can just type the apostrophe in your alias.
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I am using Mushclient. How do you treat locked doors a special way in the mapper? For example, do you have it stop at the door instead of allowing thhe mapper to run into the door and continue running?
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you set a custom exit that opens the door
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hirozan is agreeing with that Ayasinda person again...
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I have a custom exit to open it but i don't always have the key
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: then get the key first :)
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: or include getting the key in the cexit
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strykerius Tech: what is the custom sentence for when you go idle?
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strykerius Tech: something about your eyes glaze over?
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Your eyes glaze over.
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strykerius Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nibir Tech: anyone got that google translate plugin working? just copy into an xml file lke any other plugin?
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it's not a plugin
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is a .lua file.
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's the script part of the plugin. You have to create the plugin itself, or run it immediate.
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nibir Tech: I'm so not tech-savvy
T3/r7/2017-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: Did Mushr1887 break a few plugins, including a winkle?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: Anyone knwo if its possible to set up hotkeys to enable/disable certain triggers in Mush?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: make an alias that you set up into those keys
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I am not sure about single triggers but I do it via the groups EnableTriggerGroup("uncurse_npc",true)
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: enabletrigger or enabletriggergroup
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: there you go...set it up as a send_to = script
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: ok, so you set up an alias to enabletrigger(?,true/false)?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: and send to script?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zhalut nods at Lord Azaghal.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: and the argument is either the group or label?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?function=EnableTrigger
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hello all
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: sometimes i wonder why we still have browsers instead just a sandbox window to whatever they have been cooked up
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because Microsoft was sued by the DOJ for tying their browser engine into the window engine
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: its a bit backwards maybe
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: parts of it were genius and sorely missed on other platforms for a very long time, maybe even still
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the ability to grab http://whatever from a file open dialog was amazing
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if windows still does that it's because they got to keep _parts_ of the integration
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure webview is coming back on mobile anyway
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: wait for google to get sued because android's default browser is chrome and apps automatically integrate webkit
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think it was rather that Microsoft tied IE to system so much that other parties were unable to remove it
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: remove/hide. same thing
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for Android - other providers are able to remove Chrome if they choose to do so
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: its note wise to remove chrome:P
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can't remove webkit
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: heck. sometimes chrome cant use my id card, sometimes firefox is in trouble. 
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: usually one of my 3 browsers can handle it:P
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, I think they should sue Firefox just because they removed support for old ciphers
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can keep using the old version
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is security thing, however older devices sometimes require you to use old ciphers
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cpt. UnderBidder Tech: getting a runtime error from winkles mapper extender. Any help?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: examine output and fix error
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: have you upgraded with nokfah's updates
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cpt. UnderBidder Tech: No. Using ones from Arcidaynes website
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't see any mapper extender on arcidayne's website
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: is it possible to move the area where you type commands in mushclient
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: anyone know how to turn local echo on for a mac telnet session? We have a few newbies that cannot see what they type
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: telnet -K?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I'll hint that to them and see what happens
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Didnt work nuanse
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: set echo on...
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ok it seems pressing backspace gives [3~ I assumed it had to do with local echo. Now I'm not so sure anymore
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: when telnetting in a mac
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: telnet does odd things on backspace on all OS afaik
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Yep but I hope there is a way to make it work properly
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: a lot of telnet clients have an option to change backspace behavior
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Sometimes just more functional to find a free terminal emulator that supports telnet protocol.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Robbo gallantly tips his hat to Bishoujo Raded.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse is agreeing with that Robbo person again...
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Let me ask that Raded. See if they have that option
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: without reading it, I disagree with whatever it is that Robbo said.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: robbo said raded is right.. so now we know raded lied and robbo is right?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: I just don't know which emulator to suggest on a mac. And I generally do disagree with Raded on principal.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Can't trust those Ninjas.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the telnet emulator I use at work has an option under the "Keyboard" that needs to be checked for backspace to work properly
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it's funny how they havent figured out how to make telnet terminal work still.. we had same exact problems back in last millenium....while muddin
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: It took me quite a while to find a terminal under Linux that supports unicode and 'keypad mode' for support under TT++. (ended up with urxvt)
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Ifound a website about setting the option on Mac. i forwarded it to them and waiting if it will work. I didnt understand a thing on that site but I'm no mac user
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse enthusiastically high-fives Ayasinda!
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: It's all for the newbs, all for the newbs
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just make them install wine and mushclient.. it can handle telnet :D
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I did but they cannot install on work computer
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but the ones that could were happy woth mush
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: install on a flash drive, my bro did it. can you use a flash drive at work?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I'll ask them Zhalut. It's not for me.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: tell them to get a job in IT so they can do whatever they want
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: Raded just became synonym of Dared!
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lsdkfwefk Tech: test
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: FAIL!
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lsdkfwefk Tech: PASS!
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse struts proudly.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: found it.. so anyone using a mac client should set echo off under terminal>preferences>profiles>keyboard set the delete key to ^H
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I'm completely new to Mush... How do I make a trigger that takes my current status and saves the values into variables? I've made the variables, but I don't know how the syntax looks for adding/reading to/from variables
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: getvariable, setvariable
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: sent to script
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: So in the trigger I just type "setvariable currenthp %%1?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: %1  yes. 
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: but before you waste time on that.. read about gmcp
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: gmcp char.vitals.hp
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh I see, so the mud can speak directly to the mudclient nowadays?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: correct
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: well not directly but give info in easy way
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: So basically, the mud can speak to my variables without needing triggers
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: weeeeellll.. no. You need trigger to get the info, but info is presented in simple way
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Ah, aight. :)
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: check the description of gmcp handler plugin
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Great, that should make my life better :)
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: exactly.. no need to recreate the wheel :)
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: you can also check how the mapper uses GCMP. open world/plugins/aard_GMCP_mapper.xml and search for function OnPluginBroadcast
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Ah, thank you! Greatly. :)
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: How do I use "wildcards" in triggers in Mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you mean forexample making alias alias * * ?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh wait... I use a multiplication symbol?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: first * is %1 second is %2
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Right! :)
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: abe has faq.. I dont have addy right now.. maybe someone else has it. I think most of these questions are answered there
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Ah, aight. I'll try to look that up
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: fiendish has one:  https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki      shows how to write triggers and aliases. 
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Excellent! That's a good wiki!
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: I have been playing with mapper and it seems to work great except it doesn't seem to open doors or enter portals automatically.  Is there a way to get it to do that?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yes, mapper help cexits, mapper help portals
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: its mapper help cexit, sorry
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: omg!
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: mapper help exits
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: that one for sure
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sno Queen Defines pats Kobus on her head.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kobus licks Sno Queen Defines.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryndok Tech: has anyone had issues with winklewinkle scripts and the latest version of mushclient?  I can't get xrunto [areaname] to work. gives me a script error message
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Finger Nokfah, get the fix.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryndok Tech: thank you sir
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And it wasn't with just the latest version. It's been that way for ages now. :)
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryndok Tech: ah ok
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: once mapper is enabled does it automatically learn custom exits, like open door, enter portal etc?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: mapper help tells you what to do.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amministra Amorat Tech: Personal tip for doors, the MUSH keypad settings are really useful for being able to quickly set door custom exits
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: I guess I'm going to have to keep reading it until it clicks because it's not clear to me if once a custom exit (mapper cexit open south) is defined it can be used anywhere or if it has to be defined for every room.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Has to be defined for each room that has a custom exit.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hirozan nods at Arcidayne.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Once it is defined, the mapper will recognize it, though.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: that seems extremely tedious
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: (meaning you can type mapper goto 12345 and it'll enter any custom exits along the way, provided you already defined them before)
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: It can be tedious, but if you take the time it saves a lot later
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not really. The mapper doesn't know where the custom exit will lead to until you make it recognize it.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: I created aliases for opening doors in all directions, for example: opend = mapper cexit open down;down
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: i just want it to open doors when they appear in the path to a room
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amministra Amorat Tech: That's what I use the keypad for, that's Ctrl+2 for me
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amministra Amorat Tech: Err, ctrl++ actually
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: that's a great idea tolman, that way everytime you visit an area, custom exits get defined automatically.  thank you
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: I did one alias. mc *  code: mapper cexit open %1;%1  
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: i though stacking mapper commands required a double semi-colon?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: it does. I just copied and pasted without thinking to add the second ; back so it would need another ; between the %1's
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: then to use that arf, you would just "mc {direction}" instead of "open" for it to get added to mapper?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: yeah. The "send to" needs to be execute. Whatever you put after mc it will open and then move to whatever you put in
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: thank you very much
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: thanks for the help with mapper everyone, that's dope.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok, I have Windows 10. I am trying to replace a file in a program with another file. It asks me if I want to replace the file and I say yes. Then it comes back and tells me destination file access is denied. It says that I need to provide administrator permissions...how do I fix this or can I?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Is anyone here?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Nope...
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Emeris!! HELP ME
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: What do you need?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Do you know the password for the admin user? *bogglez*
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I am trying to replace a file in one of my programs. I drop it in the file, it says do you want to replace this file...I say yes. It comes up and asks me if I want to continue...I say yes. It tells me access is denied
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: on my laptop?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: did you pay abelinc?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: he's prolly using ransomware
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: trying to replace a mush file? or something else?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: something else
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: would it matter?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: I would try deleting the old file first. You probably get a proper admin prompt then
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: what version of windows, am?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I have checked to see if I am the oweer and it says that I am...
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: 10
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: do you have admin rights
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: My son and I have the same Microsoft account on 2 different laptoops, could that be messing with my admin rights?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok...before we go any farther...talk to me like a child...I am truly computer stupid.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Your account has to be setup with admin priviledges
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: right-click on task bar and click task manager, click on more details on the bottom of the screen that pops up, then select file->run new task
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: permissions on the folder, it says that I do. it shows me as the owner
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: different between being owner and being an admin account
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: type in explorer, click the checkbox next to create this task with administrative privileges, and click ok
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: if you can get that far, then just copy the file within that window
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emeris rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emeris hates winblows :P
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: me too :) only on it so I can vr
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok so I got that far
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: go ahead and copy/paste the file in that explorer window that you opened up there
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok...going to try it
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: you got this <3
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: copy/paste or drag and drop?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: either would probably work
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: drag and drop isn't
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: would try copy paste then
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: copy/paste worked...thank you
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox beams with pride.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I love you
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox rubs his nose softly against Amya's.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Is there a way to capture remote social in another window?
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If you are using mushclient there is one in the site listed in my finger.
T3/r7/2017-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Thank you guys! My kid is THRILLED
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: hey is anyone in here?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: darn
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm definitely not
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: definitely not
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: this is a simulation
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: no one hangs out in tech
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: your megahurtz have not been stoeled.  They were never real to begin with.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: I made a trigger for my mushclient that is supposed to supress the newb chats and it is suppressing a bunch of other crap too
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: and I don't know how to spell surprss
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: and there is a hole in my butt. is there a MED channel?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: stapler will have to be good enough
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: so nobody knows why this is happening?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You should finger Mendaloth and get his channel silencer. Or just turn newbie off.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: or at least the proper way to omit newb from the output?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But no one would know what is happening because no one sees your trigger. *shrug*
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The proper way? type newbie
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: I want to see it in the chat log, just not the main log
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, that's easy enough.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Right-click comm log, then choose Echo channels to main
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make Me Purr Tech: right click the communication log, there's a thing for echoing to main window.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: on mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make Me Purr Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes...
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: ok that seems easy enough if I can find it
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Here's a picture for reference: https://db.tt/JBDxKZ7WrI
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: yeah I'm not clicking that.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: sorry lol
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make Me Purr Tech: It's a screenshot..
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Then don't ask for help. Plain and simple.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make Me Purr Tech: It shows the menu option when you right click on your communication log.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: I got it. thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: I'm sorry if I sounded like a dick. I do appreciate it.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's cool, Purr. Just will choose not to offer my help to him in the future. *shrug*
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: no I just figured it out before you sent it so I didn't have to take a chance on a random web link.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: I'm sure you meant to help. Thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's... a dropbox web link...
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make Me Purr Tech: Also, the tech channel does tend to be safer than others as far as following links, especially if someone is in the midst of helping you.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Then next time, instead of saying, "Yeah, I'm not clicking that." try saying, "I found it, but thanks!"
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: got it. sorry
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: thanks for the help with the chat ecco! It has been a game changer
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: been working on the problem for a while
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: okay I am trying to make a mapper cexit pick e;open e;run e... but it doesn't go fast enough and keeps saying exit leads back here... ideas?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daria Tech: mapper cexit_wait #
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daria Tech: will make the next cexit you enter wait so many seconds
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Thankz!
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: Arrrrgggg! my triggers on mushclient are messing thing up.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: I can't see my global quest targets, and it makes no damned sense!
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: gq
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: oop
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: hmm. thankx. that works. gq ch don't work for some reason. I'm just gonna have to youtube triggers.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flidjit Tech: I've tried to omit things from the log and it has been causing me real trouble
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: gohome
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oops :)
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: boton
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: In mush... If I have a trigger that is supposed to first run an alias and then send a command to the world... How do I do it? If I send to world it says the alias command is unknown.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send to execute
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that acts as if you typed it into the command line, so it'll handle both MUSH aliases and world commands
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh, that sends it like it is written?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: and it will see the a cob-web spider 
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Ah, perfect. :)
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Good! The cob-web spider is what I want
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: oops how the heck did that slide in there... i blame it on being up since 4am
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Don't worry :) Thanks for the help :)
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is there a way for "mapper portals <command>" to take a mushclient alias for the command?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: absolutely
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just make alias and call that from mapper
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: mine is set to take mapper portals 'autoport portal bag'
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Great, that's what I was looking for
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Sweet!  I've got the mapper portals working :)  Thanks Koopa!
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa bows deeply.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: wanna buy an avocent autoview 3020?  i have 2
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: IP KVM
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: stinking mst's
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: is there a command to remove spaces?  i thought i read it before.. can't recall.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: remove spaces from what?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: on mushclient output.  there are spaces.  almost like doublespaced, after a single line of output or a space following a paragraph of output.  i thought there was a command to not have the blank spaces.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ahhh, I'm guessing there is a mud-side toggle to change those settings
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: though I don't know it off the top of my head
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is there a command that will put both weapons and amulets in your offhand?  I can "dual" or "second" to put a weapon in the offhand, but I must "hold" an amulet.  That complicates aliases a bit.  I'm hoping that there is one command that covers both situations.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: wear works for both maybe?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Wear puts a weapon in your main hand, not the offhand
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, I see that now :/
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: surely you know which one you want to hold and which one you want to second?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yes, I just want it automated after I use a portal.  For example, I have aliases to grab a portal, use the portal, put the portal away, and then put whatever was in my offhand back in my offhand.  
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: The problem is that I would need to handle different cases to put the original item back in the offhand
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It's not the end of the world, I was just hoping for an simple solution :)
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ahh, what I do is have an alias called 'replaceheld' that I update to whatever is my offhand item(s) and I call that
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: yes but it is always in the same order so you always want to second it 
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You can't "second" some items (e.g., aard amulet)
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoshi Tech: if your offhand is empty wear should dual the second weapon
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: then have a variable set to 1 for dual wielding and 0 for when you're not and change the command based on an if
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ah, that does it.  I just need to empty the offhand first.  Thanks Yoshi!
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Yoshi is right though
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoshi Tech: yw
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: someone earlier was looking for the compact command?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: thank you. that was me.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: How can you match a literal "*" in a trigger?  I don't want the asterisk as a wildcard, I want to trigger on input that has the actual asterisk character in it.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: if it's regex, you put a backslash before it
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: in a regex you usually escape special characters with a backslash
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I tried backslash, but that didn't work
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Wait, I think there is a way to tell the trigger to use regex.  I'll try that...
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: based on your question, it doesn't sound like regex, since * doesn't match a character
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Cool, I converted to regex and now I can use normal regex escapes.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: is there a lbid plugin, at least to hide the ones I am not interested in..
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: nope but you can use ifilter
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: help ifilter for details
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: for example I usually do lbid -f int 191 231
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and that only shows items that add int and are in those level ranges
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I am not looking for a specific thing.. I just don't want to see sth I reviewed again..
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ohhh, so it would hide certain items?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: yeah.. because I check sth today.. tomorrow morning, i will wake up and go, what is this? let me check.. :P
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: how would you propose that work? like not show items that have their number on like a "blacklist"?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like something to aid you in your memory? :P
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: yep.. sth to keep your lbid id and not show it to me when I type lbid is good enough I guess..
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hmm you could probably write something but would probably have to use their market auc id to remove them or "gag" them from the output, and you'd have to ungag them later since those numbers get reused
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: only if I could write scripts myself.. :(
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you could probably write something that takes the whole line as a trigger and then gags it from output
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: that way it would keep gagging it until another item with the exact same name and number come up
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: kind of a weird thing to do though imo
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and if you wanted to see it again you'd have to know what it was to ungag it
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: might be better to just color the whole line a certain way
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: making a trigger for each line in lbid is kinda worse than reviewing them again.. :P
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well you would make an alias that does it for you
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: or something to make it quick
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: nah, I will just hope some scripter hears my plea and writes a proper plugin!!
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: not it
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ikr
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sounds like there'd be so many annoying edge cases to deal with
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, so you want a "blacklist" for lbids?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: kinda
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: just thinking about edge cases like skins with long names that would all display the same... you couldn't really go off of the item description in the list
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Can you trigger off of a variable?  For example, if I have a variable named p_mob, can I catch a trigger when the contents of that variable are displayed?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's weird, I didn't mean to change fonts in my question
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd want to go off the lbid #, not the desc
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: yajan, I really don't think you need to keep item names in the script.. you can do sth like, gag the blacklisted id, and release the blacklisted id 7 days later?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, but that # becomes blacklisted and won't show when the next item comes along and uses the same #
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Almila.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: numbers don't cycle that quickly...
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: right, you'd have to add that logic
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and how does it detect 7 days?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and what if you're not online.. and blah blah blah
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: time in the table
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: or you can blacklist id wht the time from the lbid..
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 15234, 2016-01-07
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so you have to persist that across sessions and save as a mush variable..
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not saying it's not doable
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: just.. I wouldn't want to write the code for it =)
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you need to track both the id and the date and then parse them out later, or save them in two different variables
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tbh, you don't need to track that anywhere near that much...
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the numbers don't repeat for *years*
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: really? hrmm
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I feel like we've always been in the 7s lol
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2016 went from 65000-74400
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh yeah.. so that makes things easier
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it'd take nearly a decade to see the number again
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: also if you didn't gag the whole line but just modified so you'd know.. would probably be easier and you'd know when you have to clear your blacklist
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make the list of blacklisted ones be 2017blacklist, 2018blacklist, and throw away the list at the end of the year
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: take it out of the system after the auc is up...
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or monthly if you want to keep it smaller, but there'd be a bit of overlap at the beginning/end of months if you're not tracking dates by-item
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I can live with a monthly list..
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Almila grins evilly.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hmm could run your market display a lot slower though
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yajan: you could modify my lbid capture plugin to do something like a whole line highlight (or the original gag idea)
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so you're going to be filtering every line through your blacklist
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: someting to keep in mind
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: what's your plugin do?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, actually you couldn't use mine, now that I think about it, it's not for the lists, just for the announcements
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I keep thinking that someone else made a cool market plugin, maybe arcidayne?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm sure there are some
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: alright Almila how much would you theoretically pay for said plugin?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm sure someone would make it now that we all know the solution that we've settled on ;)
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Can you trigger off of a variable?  For example, if I have a variable named cp_mob, can I catch a trigger when the contents of that variable are displayed?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ummm probably wouldn't want to?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: how are you displaying the contents anyway?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: to expand a variable you're running code anyway.. so why not just "trigger" off of that i.e. just do the script right there in-line
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the trigger itself wouldn't be using the %var, but you could set the trigger when you set the %var
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm trying to write something that will let me automatically go to the room with my next campaign mob.  Right now, I manually do something like: 1) cp check 2) runto [location] 3) where [mob] 4) mapper find [room with mob] 5) mapper goto [room #]
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you do know that taht's what winklewinkle's S&D does, right?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: so you want to instal sd
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: hmm...maybe I should look into that
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: my script does the same thing you have listed.. how would you propose doing something different?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger nokfah for an updated version of it
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: it would be much faster and easier than writing it yourself :p
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, but where's the fun in that :P
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: you can write my lbid plugin request instead if you can?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: it will be fun!!
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: you might be getting close to breaking botting rules if you trigger an automatic goto next mob triggering on killing a cp mob
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Maybe I should look at some of the exiting plug-ins to see how they work
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: except I do mapper area [room name] and send mapper next
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: to run to the first room
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I wouldn't automagically kill a mob, I just want to get to the room as quickly as possible
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the script cannot initiate a movement after kill
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I don't think he said he was going to trigger goto next mob off of killing last?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: he never mentioned killing the mob at all
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: maybe he just wants to chat with it for a bit
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in her presence.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: mobs are for loving anyways!!
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: (for the record, just recommending checking out botting regulations yourself before scripting too much)
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Nope :)  I'm just tired of manually typing where [mob name]
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Nope :)  I'm just tired of manually typing where [mob name] then mapper find [room] then  mapper goto [room #].  That's the type of thing that could be automated.
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: S&D basically puts all of your targets into a captured table, and gives you commands to run to the next MOB's area, performs an auto-hunt-trick to find the right one, and runs to the room
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Sorry, my last message got garbled because I used semi-colons in it
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can even click on the MOB in the window iirc
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ah, that's basically what I'm looking for.  I wasn't planning to do the hunt-trick, but that would be a nice bonus -- even if it makes me feel a bit dirty
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hrmm.. kind of torn about adding hunt trick to my script... I guess I end up doing it manually anyway..
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: his S&D "triple pack" also includes the mapper extender, which gives you things like using the mapper to run to areas instead of rooms
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: for some mobs I don't though.. since I know which ones are not duplicated (like named mobs, or singleton mobs, etc.)
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you set which room you want to use as the area's destination (often the first room of the area), then you can "xrt desol" to take the shortest path to Desolation, for example
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: s&d could use sth like a mqw command though.. with the garbled name mobs and if it's like a stupid guard in afterglow with 50 copies.. sth do to multiple qw till it can not do anymore
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: what is "sth"?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: something
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: never seen that before lol
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: it's been around forever I can say
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1215 Magna is pretty fluent in txtcrack
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: guess I just passed it by when I saw it in the past
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but now I'll see it everywhere
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: it doesn't even count as l33ttalk..
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well no, it doesn't, because it's a txt shorthand, not letter substitution...
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: i'm looking at the readme in nokfah's google drive for s&d but it doesn't explain how to use it or where the files go.  is there any documentation anywhere?
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ok, thanks everyone.  I'll probably look into the S&D plug-in you mentioned and see how that is written.  I didn't realize I had reinvented about half of a wheel today :P
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whenever a plugin doesn't have installation instructions, that means it goes into the plugins folder
T3/r7/2017-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: and then you add them in mush, by going to file/plugins/add
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: i'm trying to use winklewinkle s&d and it just keeps saying no matching rooms found.  any idea why?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: you probably dont have the rooms in your database
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it used to work and now it doesn't for some of the rooms?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: or you just installed it and it doesn't work for any rooms?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: just installed it and it doesn't seem to be working, but pleiades is probably right.
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: takes a lot of time to get your room DB fully populated
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: then, even longer to add custom exits/etc
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirona Tech: i got a new computer bigger screen... but now all the font sizes are all off.... how do i chancge them?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the different miniwindows
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: how do I prevent the Mushclient mapper from using a specific room in its path? I level-locked  a direction to lvl 300 and I am still walking through the room
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you probably level-locked the wrong exit...lock the exit before the room which goes into the room
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I see. Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Mush question again. If I have an alias called "setpotion" and I want to be able to type "setpotion potionname" and save potionname in a variable... How do I do it? 
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Currently I have an alias called setpotion which contains "setvariable = potionchosen %1" but that doesn't work
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: SetVariable("whatever","%1") and change the send to to script
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oooh, it almost has to look like c#
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Doesn't seem to work. Is the alias supposed to be just "setpotion" ?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: The name, that is... Or should it be "setpotion *"
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: just remember it is case sensitive, so not only does SetVariable have to be done correctly but the variable name too
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, I'm camelCasing everything :P
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: setpotion *
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: since you need to send a variable, it needs *
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: maybe ^setpotion *?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: without the ?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: i tend to use the convert to regex button so it doesn't grab random tells or stuff
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It works without beginning and end chars :)
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: it is better to play it safe with beginning in end characters, if you can...
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: And, if I want to use this variable somewhere... In another alias.. I GetVariable("blabla", %1) and then "quaff %1"?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: %1 is only for capture groups that you captured via your regex
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: when you get the variable you just get it by the name you saved it by "blahblah"
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Okay... Can I just "quaff hosenpotion" or something?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Okay... Can I just "quaff @chosenpotion" or something?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: yeah you can but then you have to check the expand variable box on the right
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oooh, okay
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: you can not type quaff @manapot on command line though
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I still haven't figured how to use a variable from command line myself..
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: no but you could alias it so qm or something easy
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: it's one of the times I miss zmud really..
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Hmm, so to get the named potion out of my bag and quaff it... Using a variable...?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: you make an alias, like alias m would be get @manapot @potbag and then quaff @manapot
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: alias with 2 lines ... first line get ot otbag secodn line quaff ot
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: lol forgot to double @
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not sure how the tuff works, but you can do in-line substitution like: SendNoEcho("quaff ".. GetVariable("blahblah")) in your alias
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: @stuff*
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and then send that to script
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: the .. concatenates the string you get from GetVariable to the command you're sending to the mud
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: SetVariable and GetVariable
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: to set / get a variable
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kramercosmo Tech: -m
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Too bad AardMUSH cannot be used on Chromebooks, I think.
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: has anyone used xcode around here? :D i have a stupid question...
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadron Tech: who has the fix to S&D?  I lost my notes.
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nokfah.
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadron Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadron Tech: do I just import the new xmls using the plugin wizard?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Thought the site tells you what to do. Essentially, yes, though.
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: the Plugin Wizard is for creating new plugins
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, not the plugin wizard, just adding new plugins. Ctrl+Shift+P, then Add.
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadron Tech: do I remove the old ones?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/anom_exfiltrator
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sounds like a backdoor into my mainframe
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: "they hacked the mainframe!"
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: close your backdoor!
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ! k!
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone have any idea why all jre windows are like half size?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you mean like applet windows?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: yep, including the java splash logo
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: your code or someone else's?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like *all* java related stuff?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: everything
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hrmm.. what OS?
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: win10
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ohhh
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: probably a registry setting
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: crapping registry!
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sounds like something you google :D
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i have (a little)
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: bum java install prolly
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i have (a little)
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: could try clearing out any extra old java installs you have and redoing install of current JRE
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: darnit!
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: nod
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: windows PATH settings and multiple JRE installs where one overwrites an old or something like that is a pretty common issue
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: will check... thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you can see your java installs by going to folders like Program Files/Java or Program Files (x86)/Java
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: How do you hide the rarekill message?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no in-game command to not show it, you could always gag it client-side
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Ahh okay, for some reason I thought there was one to roll it in with the regular message.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's the exprate command, which rolls the exprate and the OPK bonuses into the regular exp
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: there's.. it's called double exp!!
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but those aren't a line of their own, they show as 126+13+13
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Klotho nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Hrmm, anyone know how to delay mopidy's start until after wifi connects on boot in ubuntu?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Or any linux, really.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: could just start it manually rather than automatically on login
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Whaaaat not use systemctl?! :P
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I suppose I could just have a little shell script to run.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinghan Tech: anyone that uses the mushclient on OSX?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I used to.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinghan Tech: any pointers as to how to do that in an easy way (without dualboot or other complexy thingies)
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yes, install Wine
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Easiest way to install wine is via homebrew.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I gotta warn ya, if you do things wiht your keyboard mods, it makes it hard on wine.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinghan Tech: I did a bit too much wine yesterday, can i still do it?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: what is a keyboard mod? I am on a laptop and my only problem is using the ctrl key
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: If you switched caps and control, for example, you'll have to do extra stuff with wine.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinghan Tech: I'll have a go
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yes, extra stuff but wine will default to windows keys, i think, right?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlyZoR Tech: How to gag lines in MUSH?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: make a trigger for the line
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: then in the trigger editor, tick the box "omit from output"
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlyZoR Tech: [3] A Mammoth damages you! [279], how to gag those ?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlyZoR Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlyZoR Tech: 9asterisk)damages you!*    works.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: why wont my mapper runto vidb?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: because vidblain isn't able to be ran to?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}But first, Juanito Tech: what's the command to add a new portal via mapper, I've got mapper ninja.. but I got rusty..
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: mapper portal <command>
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: mapper help portals
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}But first, Juanito Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: Would there anyway to set a variable to dual wield the last weapon I was holding after setting an alias to remove it and hold a portal?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: obviously I don't want to set it to a specific weapon as they change throughout the levels
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just make alias that sets variable as you wield secondary
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: that way you set variable to right weapon every time you wield the weapon
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah, that's easily done.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What client?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: oh ok.. mushclient
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Make a mushclient alias where the pattern is "dual *". The * part will be available as %1
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: ok i'll try that
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: wait sorry i'm slightly confused.. 
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: this is my current alias to go to land of legends for example get planes men
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with aard weapons, following a: hold portal, enter, "dual aard" suffices
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: whoops that went onto multiple lines
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: yeah but my weapons change from level to level..
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: sorry to keep bugging right now for instance my alias to use the apple press portal is get planes men hold planes enter rem planes put planes men without the semi colons i want to also add into redual a weapon at the moment its flute but i need to it to be a variable because say at 107 it will be aard axe
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: i'm not sure how to write the variable...
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: with yo fingaZ!
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ampersand
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hailskatan snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: the easiest way would just to be save up and get a portal slot wish right? lol
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: no, ampersand also works
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sure.. but who wants to take the easy way out? :P
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: zengo could you show me some example syntax if you don't mind
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: whats an ampersand excuse my ignorance lol
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: dual @mysecond
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: that simple? just add that to the end of the syntax?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: well the setting of the variable is a little more complicated
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: or rather the setting of the valuae of the variable
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: does anyone know if mushclient supports blinking text? and if so, how?
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i believe no
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: so there isn't a way to sort of set a variable as last used maybe? 
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sure there is, Hailskatan.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Make a mushclient alias: dual *
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with 0-weighted aard weapons, when "hold held_item" (and or) "hold shield", later "dual aard" suffices
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Hailskatan, it's not too bad, I have an alias named "offhand *" that keep track of what I hold in my offhand.  Just a sec and I'll copy the instructions for you...
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: cool durel that would be most appreciated
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Then set "send to" to 'script', and put something like SetVariable("dualweapon",%1)
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Create an alias (control+shift+9 to get there) with the name "offhand *", in the "Send" box, just put "%1" (without the quotes), set the "Send To" pulldown to Variable, and set the Variable name box to "offhand".  Then from the command line, you can do something like "offhand [my favorite weapon]" to set the variable.  To use that variable later, just use ffhand.  Easy Peasy.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailskatan Tech: thanks guys thats awesome! thanks for all your help!
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: oops, use the "at" symbol followed by offhand
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: @offhand* is what he meant to say at the end
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: (without the *)
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: yeah, that "at" symbol is called an ampersand ;-)
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: No, @ is not an ampersand.  This is an ampersand: &
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok, I must be losing my marbles, Metria. My bad
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah I was going to say earlier.. lol but just let it slide
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but this is tech! so we gots to be *tech*nical!
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: you should'na. I'm prone to error. But I mean well.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: all tech(ies) are on this channel to help =)
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is there anywhere to get a public listing of the room numbers for the start of each area?  I could run around gathering them, but I don't want to do unnecessary work...
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I think Nokfah's plugin comes preloaded with them
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: S&D triple pack thingy
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: finger nokfah for his google drive link
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: actually winklewinkles plugin with nokfahs fix ;)
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ok, thanks.  I'll look into snagging them from that.
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ya that!
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: ibm assembler used to use the ampersand (&) [ibm 360 370], but the pc assembler language decided to use the "at" ( symbol
T3/r7/2017-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "at" (@)
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: my trigger doesnt fire in mushclient but if i copy and paste the trigger text and the line i want it to fire on into my regex tester it shows me a match
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Did you make sure the regex checkbox is checked?
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i have a couple other very similar triggers and they fire just fine
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: wow.... im a moron
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: somehow i disabled the trigger
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: freaking out about my regex wondering why it isnt matching
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Is there a keyboard shortcut to jump to the bottom of the output window on Mush?
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: generally inputing any command will do that
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Ah, right :)
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: so even just a carriage return to do nothing
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: he says press enter
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Didn't even think about it :)
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: so who are my vmware experts here... any idea why my GD vcenter 6.5 server inventory wont stop loading? it's a brand new install and i have de-deployed the vcenter server like 10 times
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: we have opened a service ticket for you, Abelic will retur your call within 72 hours
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: hehehe nods... chances are he will respond in like 4 hours as if i had just posted, and i will totally miss it
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: in that case you have to work on an SLA with him
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa is agreeing with that Pleiades person again...
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: hey abe... i just installed vcenter 6.5, and my inventory keeps spinning.. PLeiades told me to ask you... ideas?
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: little birdy told me there is a port that has stock areas like smurfs, high tower of sorcery, etc.  is true?  if so, what port?
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: is anyone else lagging?
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TimeBound Anaristos Tech: yeah, try tech channel. That's my least area of expertise :)
T3/r7/2017-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TimeBound Anaristos Tech: mis :)
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: does anyone have any suggestions for an ios client?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gallen Tech: most people say use wine to run mushclient
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gallen Tech: i had a mac until recently, i never really found a good one
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: on a mac, not an iphone/ipad
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: sorry, I meant ipad
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I use blink shell to ssh into an amazon ec2 vps
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: I'm using mudrammer but it freezes if I'm inactive for more than a few seconds
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I never got mudding on a phone or tbalet.  I couldn't imagine trying to do anyhitng but chat on there.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: i do it at work but its pretty terrible
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I don't do much on my ipad in Aard, true, but that's bbecause tintin doesn't have all mymaps.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: it's not ideal, but my son usually has the computer. It's easier than fighting :)
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i need all my mini windows, my macros, and my keyboard!
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: i manage to do quests (slowly)
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I mean, do you even have a keyboard?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: the app i use is called mudrammer
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: the phone I can't do, but when I used to mud it was on telnet, so even one window with ansi is a step up
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: it uses the ios keyboard
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: that's what I'm using Terrathus
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: it does have some little buttons that let you move
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: but it freezes constantly
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: yes it does
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: and disconnects
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terrathus Tech: and stops allowing input
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: If you use mosh on blink-shell, or just any regular ssh client that uses screen
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: It avoids closing out your actual session, though you would have to reconnect to the VPS if you let it idle out.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: and you dont fight with your son,,,, "I paid for it, get off".  end of story.  LOL
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: hmm, I'll check that out, Klotho
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makoa Tech: if you have the chrome browser you might try duckclient.com - haven't tried it on a mobile device but works ok on a chromebook for those must-be-on moments
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: actually Cera, his dad gave it to him as a gift 
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: um.. "my house, my turn"?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: and so far, mudding hasn't been a good enough excuse for a second computer
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: his computer, your electricity? :)
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: then you aren't trying hard enought!  we have 4 computers, 2 desktops, 2 laptops, and only 2 people live here
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: that migt work... though then I'd hear all the reasons he'll never become a pro gamer without practice, hehe
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain Planet Tech: whats the topic of the day?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: we sprang for the ps4 instead of the second computer 
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tryxni Tech: clients for ipads and children hogging computer time :)
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i was finally able to replace my aging imac and can ow play civilization 6.  :)
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: okay basts mini window for help is loaded but its not popping up, stays in the main window, any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaya Zyanya Tech: How does one reset the first room of an area on the mapper again?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: xset mark
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaya Zyanya Tech: Thank you
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xage Tech: how do i add a custom exit on mapper for eg enter log 
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: mapper cexit 'command'
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xage Tech: anyone here
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: never!!
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xage Tech: do u use mapper almila
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: more than I want to
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: you are better off asking your question.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: yeah, no flirting on tech channel!!
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xage Tech: if u explore forest of lidinshe for eg you should be able to get exact directions to any mob with a mapper command right
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: ask your question or begone! Just kidding
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xage Tech: whats the command to find a mob with mspper
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: not directly.. but you can install s&d plugin which would serve to purpose
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mapper finds rooms, not mobs
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: mapper stores rooms not mobs.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: There is no command to find a mob with the Mush mapper.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xage Tech: damn thanks guys reealised my mistake]
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: otherwise you have to do sth like, where mob, then mapper area room_name and then click on the link etc
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: so, go install s&d
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I wonder why aard install doesn't come with s&d anyways?  is there any musher not using it?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: plenty
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: well, those guys would be using better plugins then I guess.. so, it's not a bad starter for new players in any case..
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: S&D is not liked by many including the guy who puts the aard package together
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: What is s&d?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: How do I echo something from an alias in Mush?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: And is the alias supposed to be targeting Script?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It's an alias to set my chosen potion
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: In a variable
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You mean print to your screen?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, so it says something like "You have chosen Melody"
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Try Note("TEXT") or Note("HI" .. myvar .. " XX") where myvar is a variable.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: With the periods?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yes period are how concat two strings
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: The first example is if you just sending a hard coded string with no variable.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It keeps saying my variable is 'nil'
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Nvm, I got it to work :) Thank you!
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Had to GetVariable to get the name of it :)
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You should share how - never know who might be listening and learn from it
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: there you go!
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yep, that's what I thought :)
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: hmm i lost group plugin somehow.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: and all of my settings:(
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corrala Tech: i unzipped the ardwolf client to documents are now my screen reader isn't working and ardwolf won't connect
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: How do I add and remove 1 from a variable?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: In mush
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: SetVariable("varname", GetVariable("varname")+1)
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or -1, as the case may be.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Could make sure it's a number by doing tonumber(GetVariable("varname")), too.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Arcidayne, are you familiar with setting up the Aardwolf client with a screen reader? I was trying to help someone get it setup but didn't realize they were using one
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: We have it installed, and the reader was pulling from the popups, but it doesn't seem like it's pulling from any of the client's windows
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Or anyone really, I just said Arcidayne because I was he was on
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have you installed mushreader? http://www.allinaccess.com/mc/
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: I'm not sure. Gonna try to get him on the channel himself to cut out the middleman
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess if he has working old mush with screenreader - you could verify whether he uses that plugin in old install
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: i haven't installed mush reader yet 
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: i am using anotehr verssions of mush client
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Trachx said the website to get that from is http://www.allinaccess.com/mc/
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: i have mush reader with my other mush client
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Ok, so you'll need a copy of the plugin in the worlds folder of the aardclient
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Actually, looking at the readme you should probably download the whole thing again. It should make things easier and avoid touching files you're using right now
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: i installed that now what
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Just to verify, the .dlls are in the main directory and the .xml is in your worlds folder?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: think so yup
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: If you hit Ctrl+Shift+P it should bring up the list of plugins
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: it does
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: You'll probably have to add the reader plugin. There's an add button, and you'll select the mushReader .xml
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: added it all ready
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Then, as far as I know, it should work. I'd restart it just to be safe
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: it's still giving me the getting starting page and won't read it
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: What happens if you close out of the getting started page?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: i can't
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: i don't know how to close it
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Well shoot. Gimmie a second
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: are you able to disable aard_new_connection.xml plugin ?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: i can
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or rather
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Screen reader users: To bypass the welcome screen and connect to the game, type \"connect to aardwolf\" without the quotation marks and then press enter.\nFor more information about the package be sure to check out http://tinyurl.com/aardclientmanual
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however it seems it was designed so your screen reader should have read that info
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: it isn't working still
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: it isn't connecting
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: But is the screen reader working now?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you have typed: connect to aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and is have not worked ?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: yeha
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if so I guess removing aard_new_connection.xml plugin should be easiest way to bypass that check
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: i did and still no
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and when Fiendish is online - notify him so he can fix it
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: by "no" you mean it has connected but screen reader does not work, right?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Verrana Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you use now 2 mushclients at the same time?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if both are active - I guess it is possible that one of them is blocking another from using screen reader
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just a guess - but if so - then closing both and opening just the right one may be solution to your problem
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Did that end up working at all?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: How do I subtract 1 from a variable in mush?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: tonumber(GetVariable("lala")) - 1 ?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: this is correct, except should check with nil on tonumber in it somehow gets something that is not a number.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: unexpected symbol near '-'
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: ih
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Or is the ? supposed to be there too?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It's supposed to be sending to script, right?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: As soon as I add the subtraction symbol it complains that there's an unexpected symbol near '-'
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: there is a way to always display the current room id number?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: mapper thisroom if you're on mush
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: like on the room name or on prompt
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latino Tech: there is some kind of menu with options to set up ingame?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: help help
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: The help command is unavailable.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Latino Tech: there is?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone here use Protonmail?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: anyone familiar with Plex? My audiobooks and tv shows are suddenly pausing every 20-30 seconds and it's driving me bonkers =( 
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nibir points excitedly at Vanniluh Icecool!
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shaelynne prods Vanniluh Icecool into action!
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo prods Vanniluh Icecool into action!
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: hit it with a hammer
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i feel the need to go google his pretitle...but plex more important right nw =( 
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: It's vanilla ice. Duhh
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nibir Tech: his pretitle is a dur da dur on vanilla icecool :P
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: oh okay then thanks, no google necessary 
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *gasp* Tricksy Bamboo *lix* Shaelynne! Yoo want a *lix* too :(
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TomNine Tech: sweet crack... which gender?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you mean david bowie?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: TomNine demands that everybody stop for Hammertime.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Anyone happen to know what sort of database Aardwolf uses for player data?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I imagine only Lasher knows
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: Abelinc's brain
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Just curious if xml documents are realistic for something of this sort of scale
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: or if it makes more sense to use MYSQL or an equivalent
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: old muds just used text files (usually encrypted and compressed)
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: I mean, it makes more sense regardless, but just wondering if there's a performance problem with using xml files for something with this many concurrent users
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: no idea what Aard uses since it is custom proprietary code.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: *nod*
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: if I were building one from scratch today I would definitely use sql
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Writing some software and need to save a ton of fields, and assuming it'd be about as heavily hit as this.  Don't want to waste time with setting up a DB server or what-not if I don't have to.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I would also probably shoot myself until I stopped having the irrational desire to code a mud from scratch.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: lol, yeah, I started playing with that idea years ago.  Hells no.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: are you writing it in C# or C++ or Python or what?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Ruby on rails, mostly.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: honestly integrating sql in most modern programing environments is ridiculously easy
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Though I prefer C# for most things.  Depends how quickly I want to actually produce something :P
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: not familiar with Ruby, but then I do 85% of my coding in freaking MATLAB these days so wtf do I know :)
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: I'm currently using some bullshit outdated networking framework that relies on a hugely outdated Riak model database.  And I hate it.  Was thinking of scrapping it and just making my own.  But ugg.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: andyou can't just get something off the shelf that would work better?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Maybe.  I just don't know a whole lot about DB's
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: I can write up an xml parser in about 6 seconds though
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Just seems way less intimidating
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: sql isnt bad once you learn the really basic stuff, and the calls in your language of choice
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I guess it depends on how often it is getting accessed and how time critical the access is
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: I use mysql at work, and understand it fairly well.  I just don't know all that much about building a DB and integrating it.  Using it is easy.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: sql is definitely going to be massively faster than xml, but for a lot of applications that really doesn't matter
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Yeah, it'd probably be about 1/10th the data as a player has here.  Per fetch.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: maybe less
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: It's basically records of instances for my program, but I need to bounce them around a fair bit.  Not all that much, and speed isn't super important.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: it is not really necessarily about the amount of data being fetched
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Yeah, there'd be maybe... 300 calls per minute maybe?  Really infrequent
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: well if speed isn't important then all you really get out of sql is a better structure
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowse Tech: Okay...windows is focusing on whatever my mouse is hovering over as if I'm clicking...any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: for me it would probably come down to how long I expected the program to be in use,
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: a couple of years? just do somethign quick and dirty that I can crank out, a couple of decades, do it right in sql.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Yeah.  Definitely not going to be decades
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: stuck mouse button (hardware or software) try clicking each of your mouse buttons.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I would say spend 10 minutes looking at how to do it in sql on youtube or the like and if you don't think you can just crank it out then just do it in xml where you are comfortable
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: oh well one other thing, how much is on the line if it screws up? jobs, money, lives?
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: I'd like to think lives, but it's definitely not important in the slightest
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Just a pet project :P
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: well do you want to learn how to work in sql? It is a fairly valuable skill in the marketplace and generally useful if you are a professional or serious hobbiest computer program or data scientist.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: If you're learning sql, go for no-sql
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Riak is nosql based
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: I dislike it. :P
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Way more familiar with MYSQL, and it makes more sense to me.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: anyways, thanks for the suggestions guys!  Appreciate it
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: in the end its really going to come down to your own personal preference
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but happy to talk through the pros and cons with you
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Agree. I like pancakes.
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I dont
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I prefer waffles (with chicken)
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Absolutely barbaric!!
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2017-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: viking barbarian heritage here.
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: any bugs or issues with the latest Aardmush on Fiendish's site?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: of course there are its software
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: what does the new Aardmush have that the old one doesn't?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: ooooo
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I mean serious and/or game-breaking issues
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: nawww
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: who loqui, finger members lol lol
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: if they were known it wouldnt have been released
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: but NO SEXUAL HARRASSMENT PANDA pls
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: Fearlis joke
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oo Kyhal fingers very selectively
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oo Kyhal acks!
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: friend ago
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: but if they were unknown bugs :)  I'm guessing if there had been issues somebody would have said something.  Thanks all.
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: derp
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oo Kyhal fingers himself hahaha
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowse Tech: I found out my terrible mouse clicking issue...I had a macro running that left clicked every 1.7 seconds and forgot about it :D
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: derp a gerp!! a b00t?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowse Tech: Probably not the best idea to have bound it to activate on a slight mousewheel side nudge
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: what's dis all aboot?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: li
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: lee
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: wham baam thank you maam
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oo Kyhal acks!
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: ok, really red wine time
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: afk
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: fork a cork???
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: corkscrew tech-k-nique
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: 1k order from east coast for VQA? oops
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: importer/exporter
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: where's the tech in all this?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: 2 debate if u wantz
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: anyone know why i get 'Trigger function "POSCode" not found or had a previous error.' error when I kill a mob?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Never heard of it can search the web for POSCode
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: suppose I will have to. was hoping someone already knew :(
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: for mushclient tab completion, is there a way for it to ignore puncuation?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: why sometimes the client dosent save maps?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: and alias
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: backup moar
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: did it
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: finger all of the Silent Ones
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: Seek Truth in Loqui
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: I've said too much already yours to link to
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: Or perhaps not mortals?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: li lee
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oo Kyhal Tech: tech off now
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: Trigger function "POSCode" not found or had a previous error. -- any ideas? searching online hasnt resulted in anything. shows up only after a mob is killed. (mushclient)
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: should fix itself if you stop killing mobs :P
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: yeah.. did that for like a year.. have to take a break from it
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: do you have a tracker of any sort (mob kill counter or exp tracker)?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: Sharptracker
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: try reinstalling it
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: well, i unistalled it.. but its still functionig..
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: ghosts in the machine... i knew it would happen
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: well all the variables are there in ctrl+g, but on the plugin list its gone.
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: if you uninstalled it, have you restarted mush?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: twice now, it still fire on world opening
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: ok, try installing it and then disableing it.
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: you on windows?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: still recieve the error in red
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: got it
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: what did you do?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: apparently my dumb self at some point just copied and pasted the script into mush creating duplicate triggers/vars causing the issue :P
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: hehe go you!
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: can anyone suggest a good tracker for mush besides sharptracker?
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Amaru gave me directions on how to open the file folder as an administrater when it isn't letting me do it normally...does anyone know how to do it
T3/r7/2017-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: erm, anyone know if S&D have issues with Gallows? I've xset mark umpteen times but its still not going the right way
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: using mushclient -is there a way to replace an incoming string with another string? somewhat like a permanent "find a replace"
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: and*
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: are you reading the string from the mud output or sending it yourself?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: mud output
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you want to replace the whole line or just a single word in it?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: strictly speaking i want to add something to it.. can eithe rreplace the whole line or simply replace the last word with my addition
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: for example, adding a note alongside a roomname..
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well there might be an easier way but you can use the whole string as a trigger then check the omit from output button, then in the send put something like SendNoEcho("whatever line you would like it to be including your addition") then in the Send to switch it to script
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: let me try. thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if it's a variable string (like a room name) you'll want to use a capture group and probably a regular expression and then just resend the whole thing you captured using %1 and append your addition using string concatentation which is [..] (without the []'s)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but any room name that doesn't match your regular expression will throw you a curveball, so you may need to do some experimenting and tweaking of your regex for it to work
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: nod nod...
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: related qn - is there a way to echo back a line without using mud's echo command? it has a build-in lag
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: i suppose i'm looking for a client-based echo
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: also, if you're doing room names.. as they appear when you look, you're going to need a way to know that it's a room name and not just regular text
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: tricky..
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: the mapper does something like that I believe (your 2nd question)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I think it's just a "ColourNote"
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: there's documentation on it if you search mushclient colournote in google
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: nice.. thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not too bad though.. it's pretty straightforward
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: also if you wish to add notes to rooms in mushclient there is a command for that mapper addnote putyourtexthere
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: ok that is very helpful
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blaqwhyt Tech: whoa.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i just copied and pasted some code and dunno how to handle those numbers in js.. heres an array.. [0x90, 0, 0x13]
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: whats this. hex or wut
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Yup, that's hex
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: that 0x19 - how to add hm.. number 1 to 16 to that then?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: its a midi message
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: You can just add hex with a +, like 0x90 + 0x04 for example
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: thanks much i'll try
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: 1000nnnn is supposed to be that 0x90 .. 
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: gosh it was so simple:) i was gonna accept 3 hours of mind#$%
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: if i have 2 worlds do they share the same plugins and stats folders?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: (in mush)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: if they have the same name, yes
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: if the worlds have the same name?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: each world needs to have a name. See ALT-ENTER
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: right, i am trying to simplify 2 chars, in one client.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: its really the state files that i am concerned about.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: if each char has a world file they will still share hte plugins and stat files, at least in pathing
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: correct?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: why make a world for each char. Why not use 1 world
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: maps are different, aliases are differnt, portals and gear or different..
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: navigation rewards for goals
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tormat nods at Bishoujo Raded.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: What colours are available in ColourNote?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bartard Tech: how can I set up a display in mushclient (windows) that will show campaign mobs still required (saw it in my mudlet program on linux)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: there are plugins like the one from bast, finger them for the url
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bartard Tech: OK thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you may want to tweak it to work at all quest/campaign givers
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: So, anybody know how to subtract 1 from a variable in mush?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: variable = variable -1
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Really? No Execute or anything?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: seeing as you didn't specify anything, sure
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: we can't read your mind as to how you are using this.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: well.. you could do mommommoo = tonumber(getvariable("mommommoo") - 1 as a script ... kinda :)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: normally the way I would do it is GetVariable convert it to a number, subtract one, then set it again, you may have to re-convert to a String
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I have a variable that I want to help me keep count of my potions. So everytime I quaff one I want it to deduct one from a variable called numberofpotions. I have an alias called qp that gets the potion from the bag, then quaffs it. And at the end I want it to subtract 1 from the amount of available pots I set everytime I buy potions. The alias is targeting Execute as of today as I have another alias that sets the name of the potion.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and send to script.. though it might be easier to write a small function and just call it rather than put a bunch of stuff in a send box
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it depends on where in mush he is using it, what kind of variable he is using, global or local.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: that var=var-1 works. you have to SendTo>script and youre done
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: is your alias going to script?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Sorry, the alias is actually targeting "script"
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: then the var = var -1 works
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: unles you are storing the variable with SetVariable somewhere
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: then you will need tovar =tonumber( GetVariable(varname")) -1
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: then set it again
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: WHen I type that last thing it says "unexpected symbol near '-'
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so SetVariable("variable", tonumber(GetVariable("name"-1)))
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: That's what I was trying
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: are you sure its going to script?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you can use -1 within getvariable?.. cool
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: umm you need to put the paren around the whole thing then -1 after you do tonumber
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: since -1 isn't defined on a string
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like tonumber(GetVariable("name")) -1
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: my para might be off a little I am on a small laptop and cant see well
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I believe..
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse nods at Yajan.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so SetVariable("variable", tonumber(GetVariable("name")-1))
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: this SetVariable("variable", tonumber(GetVariable("name"))-1)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: finally :)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol, stupid small screens
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: meh syntax
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: same idea
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: And Note('You have '..GetVariable("nopotions").." left.")) or something similar to echo back how many I have?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: nopotions is Number of Potions
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so giddorah, post your code on pastebin or something it might just be syntax
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: The variable
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: that should work fine
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: No, your code works now. :)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol, I know it does
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Well, I could post it but I'm not sure anyone would be interested :P
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: cool that's good =)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, thanks you two :)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I only know C#
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: np man, I like programming so I like to help people with thiers usually
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I taught myself lua for this mud, lol
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: taught myself c# for space engineers
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I taught myself umm I dunno.. but I like helping too!
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ever learn Ti-basic so you could program those calculators in high school?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I've taught myself tons of crappy languages to solve problems.. lua is a nice little scripting language though.. good to learn even if only for writing mud scripts
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Hehe... Texas Instruments
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yup
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I know c, c#, basic, Ti-basic, bash, torque, java, php, python, all so I could automate things
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Impressive :)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i know turbo basic and turbo pascal
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I wanna learn cobol
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: where to learn lua
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: test port
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: That's the banking language, right?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lua you can learn here just by doing or goto its doc page
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: cobol is for all the old systems where people are either dying or retiring, lots of jobs for the old languages
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh, don't you think they systems will get replaced once the support goes away?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: doing wha
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: what*
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: I used to know Fortran. Haven't touched it in ages now though
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: not really
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I mean would you want to spend a few million to convert your system if there are still people willing to use or work on it?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: not really..have you done that?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: True
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: someone says cobol and i get that thing in my brain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4qYiFWrc0g
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: cobol, algol, fortran, pascal, lisp. I'm one of them old geezers
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: fortran is still useful actually...
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: it can be weird to learn all the old school things that still run everything these days. Around me a lot of the schools still use Amiga's to control the heating of schools
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Really?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: yeah. There was a huge news thing about it last year here. I worked at a hospital upgrading the network switches and they still used Amigas and Commodore 64's to run a lot of things. And this wasn't a poor hospital at all
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: A lot of OS/2 systems, and in years past TRS-80 computers running HVAC systems too.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Funny the things that will stick around when nobody has to touch them very often.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: And as to the Fortran discussion... if I could avoid a week without compiling something in Fortran, I'd be very happy :P
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Darn researchers and scientists!
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: it is nice when you don't have to touch the old school systems, but when they break it can be annoying to deal with ebay trying to find parts and replacements hehe
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: eh. you throw names of languages left and right.. if its mundane coding job, it doesn't matter. try writing something that deals with musical notes. its incredibly hard
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: because they screwed up the notation 400 years ago and now we have it this way
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda perks up, something must have grabbed her attention.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not too bad to do things in midi, or to use sibilius or similar
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sibelius*
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Hmm.. Have you tried that Windows 10 app for notes
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Staffpad
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: there are scales,keys. scales have exceptions. sharps flats collide. its all mayhem
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: and then there is the rythm rules
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: the staff notes is a map. so whatever goes on, there be converting from the map and back.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: while keys have exceptions, everything follows the same rules consistently
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: you can have a scale that has all flats and that sole sharp as an exception. and all automation goes puff
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not at all
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: yes!
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is why you can press a "transpose" button and it'll "just work" as you play in the key you're familiar with, outputting in a different key
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: you try
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've done it for 25 years
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i gave up
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc still has a DX27S
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: wait. im talking about presenting notes with correct alterations
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: thats insanely complicated
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm talking about actually making music...don't care about presentation, just how it plays :-)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: yeah. i do that now:)
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i gave up as i said
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: now there is b and bb next to eachother and who cares if it sounds right:P
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: how can I make an echo for double pop message?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: echo?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: trigger for double message -> Note("DOUBLE") send to script
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kankuro Tech: if I find the next mersian prime how do I get paid/glory?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: I use bast's help mini window, and now it gives me errors, how do I reset it?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: maybe i know what is the command to reset my MUSHclient interface?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: may i*
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: reset aard
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: it says You are not holding a reset area token.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: ah ok, thanks!!
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: how can i save my output buffer?
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Depends on what client. MUSH, you can do Ctrl+Shift+J, and pick your options.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Chat log is automatically logged with Aard MUSHclient's package.
T3/r7/2017-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok cool, yea i wanted output buffer only on mush
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: Been a while but does anybody which/whose plugin is the one that looks somethng like: StatMonitor: Quest finished for
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Phillip Tech: is that bast's?
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: oh yeah, that's whose it was. Thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TomNine Tech: for a working copy of winkle winkles search and destroy triple pack visit these 3 links, save the raw paste in a text editor/notepad with the .xml extension and with the file names of the posts into aardwolf --> world --> plugins --> winkle winkle (create a new folder within the plugins folder called winkle winkle), be sure to let the mapper extender index the areas before continuing to add the GUI...
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TomNine Tech: http://pastebin.com/QYmR3Xeg http://pastebin.com/A4BydEdp http://pastebin.com/LPC1p4Xz
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TomNine Tech: happy campaigning
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: bah semi bot
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TomNine Tech: not funny...
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jainnah Tech: this is funny.. https://gfycat.com/HollowWelllitCarpenterant
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hmm I guess commas do matter
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ran windows network diagnostics (because internet bad) and I read the results as: The connection between your access point, router, or cable modem, and the Internet is broken.
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and I'm like "what?! Who broke the Internet?!"
T3/r7/2017-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: last comma I just imagined
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: omggggg finally built like a "simple" set of functions to tell me if an Aarch piece that pops up is one I already have turned in
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not sure if I'm tired or retarded.. but that was way harder than expected
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is much easier just put them in order into your bag
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not sure I follow what you mean
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: all pamhplets have number of piece in keyword list: archaeology aarchaeology collectable pamphlet20
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yaya if you identify it
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm talking about ones on market, on auc, etc.
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: all pieces also do have them: | Keywords   : gold coins archaeology aarchaeology find old rope item41  
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like if it's one I should buy
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so I don't have to identify each and every one
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i seem to recall someone writing a plugin for that
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: haha I'm sure they did.. seems like something that would be helpful
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: - reinventing the wheel since .. uh.. whenever I popped out
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I had thought about using the identify on each one as the lookup, but being lazy.. I wanted to be able to look it up by name
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: only problem left is when the name is truncated (like on market) some of them (or at least 2) have the same name
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not the end of the world but.. still a bug
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syth Tech: Quick question can on play aardwolf on IOS ?
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syth Tech: one*
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: i use blowtorch on android,if you are lucky theres probably some MUD client up for IOS too
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godsmack Tech: im fairly certain ive seen one on ipads
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syth Tech: Ahh Thanks man :)
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Can you set Mush to not clear the command line?
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: maybe if you have a high-sequence alias for * that sends to command
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: havent tried it
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: or would it be low sequence... hmmm
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: probably wouldnt work the way you want depending on what other aliases you have 
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: there's an option for it in commands
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: well imagine that :p
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: auto repeat command
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone know how to call a script (and send a parameter) from an alias without capturing the parameter via a regex?
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: like a predefined parameter?
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: right
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: arguments are * for non-regex and () for regex
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, it's not an argument I want to send in though
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what a parameter is...
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: right, but I don't want to have to define it when I call the alias
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I want the alias to know what to send
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like wondering if I can directly modify the wildcards array
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then the alias part actually has nothing to do with your question
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sure.. it could be a trigger or whatever
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: alias is sending a bunch of stuff to world
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you just want to know how to call a function
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I want to call a script and send parameters to it through wildcards
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you put it into the () of the function call
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not through wildcards
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: does that work in that field?
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: never really tried that kk
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: is the "script" a function? or an alias in another plugin? or...
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: the script is a function
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: if its a function you just do FunctionName(arguments) like magna said
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: didn't know that script textbox would take params that easily
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't use script textbox
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: the function has the standard signature though (name, line, wildcards)
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use the huge box
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and send to script
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: think thats what he means magna
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well that's easy to do but the problem is I'm sending a bunch of text to world
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I doubt it
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'd have to add like a Send() to each line
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sending text to world doesn't matter...just have Send() to send to world
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: was trying to avoid that
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you truly don't want to avoid that
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: since I have like 8 aliases I'd have to do this for :(
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: these are aliases for wearing different level sets
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: wanted to tack on a function call at the end
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rethink how you're trying to do it...you should only have one
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or just use bast's eqsets
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah.. it is probably high time I re-wrote the set aliases to combine them into one
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i havent tried bast, but masaki equalizer is really decent
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I dunno trying to avoid using a database and sort of hard to track settings/values that are changing often - kept having issues with bast's so I "simplified" by just writing a bunch of aliases that send stuff to world
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but now I'm a bit locked in as to what I can do with them
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need a database, that's what tables are for
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sorry same diff in my mind, was referring to both
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: one is persistent I guess
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, both are persistent
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: how would a table persist? :/
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's just a MUSH variable
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ohh I was talking about lua tables
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so am I
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you save the lua table to a MUSHclient/plugin variable
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so lua variable and a mush variable are two different contexts, no?
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I do that.. but if you want to use in lua, you still have to load into the script context
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and then you use it natively in lua...unlike a database call
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: right
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to use a database, you need to create a .db file, open that file, create a database table, schema for that table, etc., close the file, re-open it on reuse...vs just using lua tables the way you always do, where on plugin load you "unserialize" the variable into a table, and on plugin save, you "serialize" the table into a variable
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I do that for other things, just haven't really incorporated it into eq sets yet
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: kind of dragging my fight since this current impl is hobbling along
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: my feet*.. I guess I am kicking and screaming with myself too though
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: cool thanks for the advice
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I know there's colorset, but isn't there another color config list?
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can toggle brights, not quite sure what you're looking for
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I coulda sworn there was a way to change color of things like your attacks, mob attacks, etc.
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: colorset?
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Ohhh, I just saw those options. Okay, thanks.l
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: lost the screen that shows my stats --- the screen on the side
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: resetaard might help
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: tried that one and it still not there weird guess i reboot is in order
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: did you disable any plugins?
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: not on purpose
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make Me Purr Tech: is it possible it's under another window?
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gorsk chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: and not hidden under anotehr window I checked that one
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: check for aardwolf_statmon in your plugins
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: ok i know i should kow more but where is hta
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: file->plugins sort by name
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: t
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: between tick timer and prompt fixer
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: if its not there the filename is aard_statmon_gmcp.xml
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: found it by going full screen how do i get out of full screen cause I can't see the very top stuff
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ctrl-alt-f
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: thank magna
T3/r7/2017-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: not good when you in a double and agro area LOL
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: how do i reset the window placement to default on mush
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: reset aard
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: thanks guys
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: and s&d
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: its stuck right on top cant see mobs
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i think xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: amazing 
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: any way to get around the mud's greedy matching on item names?
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like target an incomp scroll that is 1x (and not target one that is 2x) for example?
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: what does it say under keywords if you do >id scroll? You should be able to combine the keywords into a unique string surrounding quotes. id 'scroll other_keyword'
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'll have to make some to check.. but I believe the 2x just has the keyword repeated
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so it's essentially a 1x with an extra repetition of the same keyword :(
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: wondering if there's like a combination where I could add like a negative operator.. like a "not in" or ^ in regex
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like "select this, but not this"
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: Yeah that would be nice. I guess this channel is not too active at the moment. I would probably ask again later, maybe someone else knows
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: thanks for brainstorming it with me anyway
T3/r7/2017-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: anyone using Sierra and Wine? Just wanted to make sure it works before I uprade 
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shelkin Tech: Heh, when I sudo it helps that I am not trying to suto  ...
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Any suggestions on cli mud clients more flexible than tintin?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: can i disable hide and invis in spellup plugin?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: yeah.. noauto skill_number
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: thanx
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: okay so I want to create a plugin that donates 10 percent of the gold from each kill when I run the command, how would I do this?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: not an experienced programmer keep in mind
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Donate gold to whom?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: my clan
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lug Tech: Create a trigger with a pattern that matches the text you get when you receive gold from a kill.  The amount of gold is a variable of the pattern.  You multiply that variable by .10 and donate the resulting amount.  
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lug Tech: or I should say "the trigger multiplies the variable by .10 and donates the resulting amount."
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lug Tech: np
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lug Tech: If you want to donate only when you give a command, then just add amount of gold times .1 to a variable.  Then create an alias like "tithe" or whatever that donates the amount stored in that variable and then clears out the variable. 
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: is the where info sent over GMCP anywhere?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Like from where command? No.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ok, I wasn't sure if I was just missing something or not
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hmm strange issue
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I have a plugin that will not throw an error but will stop working.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: as in, it has a timer and a few triggers that should fire when the triggerable event happens, or the timer runs out of time. but under certain circumstances both just seem to stop working. Is there a deeper level of error checking that can be done to figure out why this is?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Your trigger isn't firing properly.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nothing strange about it.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: and the timer?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The timer is supposed to reset each time it fires?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, then no idea.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok why does my router seem to "lose" usb devices?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: bad drivers?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: what do you mean by 'usb devices'?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i mean "devices connected via usb"
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I assumed usb wireless network dongles
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: didnt know they made usb viborators
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: router connected to devices via usb, and they get 'lost'?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: the devices in question are a sd card and a usb hard drive
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: so they are shared?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: shared?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: theyre connected physically to the router
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i think theyre getting disconnected and reconnected as new /dev devices
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: ah so not the scenario I was thinking
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: but i dont know why
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: like i have sda sda1 sdb sdb1 sdb2
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: then they suddenly become sdc and sdd
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: its all hooked to a tandy 100 right kobus
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: 1000
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: wth is a tandy :p
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Radio Shack brand of computers!
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: maybe back in the early 90's
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: idk what the usb hub is on the router
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i know it uses a usb device for the sd card
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: the hd is connected via external usb port
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: its an asus rt-n66u running tomatousb (shibby)
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minka Tech: i dont know
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: me neither, guess ill just have to reboot it every time it forgets about my drives :(
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: in regex, the terms lazy and non-greedy, do they mean the same?  
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: uhhhh
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minka Tech: no.. cos om both of those things
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minka Tech: actually im greedy too so i guess .. mabye
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: not that i knw of
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: whats your exp, and what are you trying to match?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: nothing to match, just reading about them.  found non-greedy as a term, then when googled, lazy came out instead.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minka Tech: im greedy for my friendships, and for chatting and for playing without dying 5times in a row.. and im also happy to be on here
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minka Tech: i dontthink non greedy and lazy are the same thing.. but thats my own not so hunble opinion
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: but are you answering from a regex perspective or life philosphy, minka? because no one cares about the latter =p
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minka Tech: i dont know what a regex is but i care about how i feel aboutthings and liek to express my opinion. you may ignore it at will
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: thanks for staying on topic
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minka Tech: doing my best
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minka Tech: i will look up regex when im through dying here
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: lol I'm pretty sure there's no context in which the words "thanks for staying on topic" are used in a non-sarcastic way.. I don't even have to scroll up to see =)
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minka Tech: regex regular expression... im slow somteimes but i appreciate the sarcasm even when i miss it sometimes
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minka Tech: i think what i said before the sarchasm fit right into regular expressions
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minka Tech: going off here so y'all can be whatever you want on here
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: so i did some digging, and id say yea they are somewhat the same thing..
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: so in regex, greedy expressions will match the longest possible string and lazy will only match the shortest.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i have no idea why theyre considered lazy or greedy
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i mean, i do but i dont know why those terms are used
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea, what dash said. so in the context of regex yes lazy = non-greedy
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so I'm guessing that would mean greedy - will keep going until something stops matching, lazy - will return the first completed match and stop searching
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i would argue that matching exatch strings is non greedy but also not lazy though
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i get that dash
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: i
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: anyone have auto skin plugin? preferrably getting rid of junk ones by itself?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: pretty sure that's botting
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: just fyi
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hrm
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: don't think so really
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if only that mattered?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kobus should know this
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: although not technically enchanting, it feels like this could be covered by help enchantbot
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it's just like doing it on enchanting (throwing away ones that don't meet a certain criteria automatically).. that's an example in the helpfile
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: so theres nothing specific to skinning in the botting/stacked commands.enchantbot policies
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kramercosmo Tech: can you link me to latest version of S & D?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No, but you can finger Nokfah for it.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea i was just gonna say the same thing yajan, stacked commands and enchantbots are perfectly ok as long as they only operate on ONE item
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: but you should read help enchantbot for clarification on this
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but he wants a trigger..
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: that does it for him as a plugin..
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It doesn't fall under botting rules.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Enchantbots are those specifically designed to allow you to be AFK.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so I can set up a trigger to enchant something and then throw it away and enchant another based on some arbitrary trigger line like say uh.. something I do to the last one?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i dont know the details of skinning
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Automatically skinning a corpse and checking its stats, then junking it if it doesn't meet requirements is not botting.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: because enchantbot specifically says that's illegal.. so how is that different from him trigging off a kill msg?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i would agree with that arci
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: because I am actually here fighting and killing
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It would be botting if the player were idling in an aggro room or having a bot run to mobs and kill them, but if that's the case, you've got bigger problems.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: not doing my 8 hours sleeping..
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Almila would have forced interaction between skins.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: like i said, idk how skinning works... i dont see why an auto-skin/drop,sac would be illegal
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Enchantbots require no interaction.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: from enchant bot: * You may stack (spam) multiple enchants on a list of items with no decision making or trigger, just spamming a bunch of enchants like spamming a single room of mobs. 20 items is the maximum. 
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: in any case, let's return to the main subject?  any plugin?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: why in the world would they bother saying "and no decision making or trigger"?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You're not enchanting skins.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and that changes things how?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Because you can't do 100 skins in 5 minutes?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if I add a trigger to my alias to enchant 20 items then it becomes illegal if I'm reading this right
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so how would they change if I were skinning?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: because you can't skin while afk
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: no it can cast enchants on 20 items
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I just run around and the plugin does all the skinning and decision making
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: it cant check stats, throw away, disenchant etc
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: we're not talking about afk
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: on one item
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: err 20 items
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I definitely agree with that.. but it also doesn't say it's ok to do it on one item
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: let alone the 50 you do while you walk around killing everything
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: and do you think I collect 50 corpses and then sit somewhere quiet to afk skin them?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: (none of which you enter a single command for yourself)
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Almila laughs at Yajan mercilessly.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: stacking enchants on 1.thing to 20.thing isnt illegal, its when your script checks the stats on 1.thing to 20.thing and disenchants or sells them that it becomes illegal
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There is a script out there that exists that was okayed by the Imms (last I heard from the creator, and the creator is reliable) that automatically checks an enchanted item for proper stats and will sell back if it doesn't meet your requirements. It's not illegal because you do have to enchant everything by hand.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There are autoskin scripts out there already; in fact, it should actually be a feature. :P
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: k, but what if you didn't enchant by hand.. like say via a trigger when you kill a mob?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: that's legal?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: for argument's sake what if I did enchantments every time I killed a mob? it'd be legal then?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: if you want.. sure
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: triggering off the kill?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: why not?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What botting boils down to is this: Can you respond to tells if you were suddenly sent a tell by an Imm? If the answer is no, then you're botting. If the answer is yes, then that means you have some interaction between that requires a pause, and are not sitting there afk and botting.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm not talking to you?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: so in the last portion of the first bright white it says "These *MUST* be done one at a time"
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: who are you talking to then?  you do not understand botting and want to declare everyone a botter apparently
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: so i can make an autoenchant trigger and just sit and watch it enchant 200 things?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Are you failing to read the part above it that says you can use triggers to enchant a single item?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: so long as i'm at the keyboard it's not botting?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i really dont see where kill trigger: skin, check stats, drop, sac is a bot
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Gorsk: Go learn about thin mints, will ya?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yes, Gorsk. if you're not afk it's not botting
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yajan, you're wrong about that. :D
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm being sarcastic
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: no gorsk, it says in enchantbot the limit is 20 items with no stat checks or thought processes
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: let me read what you're referring to though Arcidayne..
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: the simple rule is: if you were to leave your keyboard, will your client keep doing things for you?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: that's not the only def of botting
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You may use stacked commands and triggers to fully enchant a *SINGLE* item, including identifying to decide whether or not to keep it, sort into bags based on stats and even sell back to store if in the same room.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: meh, yeah.. you could probably argue from that point I guess
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'd hate to be wrong that haha
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: if an imm has a problem with it, i think one might speak up soon...
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: we are not arguing.. you are.. the point is: is there an autoskin plugin available?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: Almila: i don't know, sorry :(
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If there is, I don't know where one exists, Almila. Wouldn't be hard to create the triggers anyway.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: thanks.. a simple answer.. :P
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: im sure someone has one, somewhere
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: my bad, trying to keep you from getting nuked.. next time I'll just say what you want to hear
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't fault Yajan for arguing, though. It's always better to be safe than sorry, but Imms won't nuke you on your first offense. Jail you and talk to you, sure, maybe even freeze you if it's serious enough. But you'd have to be a total jackass for them to say, "Screw it, you're gone."
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I've heard some bad stories about people being made examples of :(
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I am like the most triggerless person in the mud really.. why would they nuke me?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: there is an imm or two watching right now, if they thought it was botting theyd likely clarify for us
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Those who have been made examples of handled things in a poor way.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There's a difference between "I'm sorry, I didn't understand the rule, but I'll correct my behavior." and "Screw you, stupid bitch. The rule wasn't clear so I wasn't wrong. Go f yourself!"
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I am just curious...why do people want to 
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Bot anyway, if you don't want to play...then why play
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The same reason people want cheats for video games. They want to be the best in the fastest way.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Put God Mode on in Wolfenstein 3D, blaze through the dungeons and kill the final boss.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: OMG...I playedd the first Wolfenstien...that what got me into gaming...sorry off topic
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: does buying lottery tickets count as botting? 
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Almila chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: is tech a curse channel...?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But yeah, the way you handle things has a huge impact on what happens to you. There have been people who were jailed, and instead of being mature about it, they threw a fit, posted notes on boards saying the Imms suck, etc, and even made threatening remarks. :p
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Gorsk: There's been no cursing. :P
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: no gorsk, it isnt
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: Arcidayne Tech: There's a difference between "I'm sorry, I didn't understand the rule, but I'll correct my behavior." and "Screw you, stupid bitch. The rule wasn't clear so I wasn't wrong. Go f yourself!"
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Almila: If you were to do it automatically after each draw, then yes.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: we need more of those
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i have no idea why im answering someone whos ignoring me
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Gorsk: Words that can be said on prime time TV are acceptable. :)
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Really?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: so i can say bitch on gossip...?
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: hah.. I was just saying about lottery tickets:  you just sit at your home doing nothing and expect to get rich: that's botting!!
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But don't get carried away with it, either.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I have been called out for that
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne tells Gorsk to "Kwitcherbitchin"!
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There's proof right there that "bitch" is okay -- kwitcherbitchin is not curse-only. :P
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ok, good to know
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Amya: If you're not calling someone a bitch or using it in a way that's inappropriate with the conversation, then you'll be okay. But turn it into a personal attack or clearing meaning malice behind it, the Imms can step in and tell you to cool it.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: clearing = clearly*
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: That makes sense and is fair
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I can't honestly say that I wasn't calling someone that
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I have been known to do that when people are rude
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As a person who writes scripts, I've learned to read the rules and learn the rules so I don't do something illegal. As a side lesson, I learn more about other rules, too. ;)
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan dances wildly before you!
T3/r7/2017-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades looks at Yajan and pants lustily.
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: is it possible dat the mapper deletes something "randomly" like some notes or some cexit
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Possible sure, but never seen it.
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: if you didn't save and computer shut down etc..
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: then you lose your last changes
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: yeah it happened but what was deleted is stg i wrote a long time ago
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I don't know how it worked before, but under old system with dataabase that shoudln't be the case...
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: its wierd
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Did you recently upgrade?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: i use the 4.95 mush
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: i get mapper errors on the 6.x
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: On the 6.x?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: the version when you type checkversion is much more useful
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: but anyways did you recently upgrade?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: 2 weeks ago i tried
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: n my map gave me a lot of errors
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: for the paths
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Your map didn't give you errors, I'm sure. More likely, it was S&D.
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Entirely possible when you tried to upgrade that database was changed or rearranged.  Did you backup the entire folder before upgrading?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: sure i did! :)
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: backup is my second name
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What errors did you get?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: can always go back to that, in the mean time post to fiendish here or on github what happenend.  But will warn you sayiing bunch of errors is not terribly useful, copying and pasting entire error messages is probably most useful.
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Also mention what operating system you used, and where you have your files located.
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: true story
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: i cant emember the error tho
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you installed it to Program Files, that can also cause problems.
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: actually...
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: i WINE it on my OSX xD
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: wich never game me probs, but for the sounds
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Try installing again and noting any errors you get.
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: i will
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: but keep your backup safe :)
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: backtobacktobacktobackup! u never knw!
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaqal Tech: why would s&d gives me an error when using xrunto ?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: and it was working fine up til now?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaqal Tech: just installed it today. not working
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: bad xset mark location
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaqal Tech: for every area?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: have you set any?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaqal Tech: no.
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urzin Tech: I think Nokfah's script stores xset locations in a file?  If so, maybe the file isn't there?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urzin Tech: not sure on that one
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaqal Tech: will have a look. thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: you might also need  some cexits set up
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: anyone know how the gmcp mapper from fiendhish appears to know more than the gmcp gives it?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: case in point:
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Standing in a room that has -1 as all exits, but two west it shows on the map that there is a real exit, but that is not sent by gmcp
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it learned when you moved that way first time around
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it does this, and moves them, in maze areas
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: no way for it to have learned that
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: nvm I figured out how it knows
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: I get geep getting a runtime error when trying to use basts help miniwindown
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: how do I reset it?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goblinator Tech: whats up
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goblinator Tech: whats up
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goblinator Tech: whats up
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goblinator Tech: whats up
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goblinator Tech: whats up
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goblinator Tech: whats up
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goblinator Tech: whats up
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: woah
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thatll be enough of that
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: silence beast! 
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: so I'm searching on both the reddit app and web browser, I use the exact same keyword (both within the same subreddit), but they give me entirely different results. what's up with that? 
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can't guarantee the reddit app isn't mangling your search string
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SmllThunder Tech: COMMUNICATION LOG ERROR: Failed to access your logging file because of the following reason:
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: logfile was in use and comm plugin couldnt access it
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: so im looking at help prompt, and i need a better prompt i think... i use mushclient so i dont really use the prompts much but theres some useful stuff in there. my current prompt only shows me my time to quest, tells and double remaining
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: abelinc are you on one of your characters right now?
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Negader points at you.  How rude! 
T3/r7/2017-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I haz questions for you, I like your answers the besties
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone happen to know the message for when a chaos portal fails during a GQ?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Anyone know if you can repeat a command in mush a certain amount of times? Like "#5 kick"?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: using mush?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: So I can type a command and mush will do it a certain amount of times instead of having to press enter a certain amount of times
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: you can make an alias. k * then have the send be kick %1 as many times as you want to. its how i do my pthief setup. k *, then send backstab %1;balor %1;necro %1;spiral %1
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: can be aliased to whatever key(s) you like of course
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: there is also a plugin by Nick Gammon - Repeat_Command
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: or just alias kick * to send kick 5 times. as long as you are in combat it will auto target whatever you are in combat with
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Ah, thanks  :)
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Where is the 'wrongdir' field for in the gmcp.room?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: no such field
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: There is though
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: sure, sure, tell my why you think that
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Because I see it right here :p
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: right where?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: in gmcp.room
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ok, then you found it. Case closed
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Why so condescending? :( I'm asking because I don't know what it is for, and it might be useful
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am looking at both the gmcp output and the gmcp page for aardwolf and it doesn't exist.. not sure what your seeing and you don't care to elaborate
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: I can paste what I see if that would help
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it would
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: { info = { num = 32418, name = "The Grand City of Aylor", zone = "aylor", terrain = "aylorcity", details = "safe", exits = { s = 32419, u = 35200, e = 32698, d = 32615, w = 30518, n = 32539 }, coord = { id = 0, x = 30, cont = 0, y = 20 } }, wrongdir = "w"}
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: where are you getting that from?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: gmcpdebug 2 shows nothing like that, nor does the http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: That's what I get for recall in mudlet
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Maybe the wiki is not up to date?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: possibly, but that would not account for what I am getting from my gmcp dump
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: not sure where your getting that last variable
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: mudlet is adding something itself
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Also, does gmcp.room not change in clan halls?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Clan halls may well be nomap, in which case you don't get the GMCP info.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Ah, that would be it, then
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But that's mostly applied to the private parts of clanhalls, I think most open onees are mappable.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and should update...
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Do they update for you? (Just making sure it's not mudlet)
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yes they do.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: For instance west of recall in bard clan hall I see the updates.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Ah that's where I checked too, it stays on recall info for me everywhere in bard
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: That seems to be an error on mudlet's end then
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I don't like to discourage people from their clients...it's like a religious choice for someone, but I do like to point out that "clients" command shows two of you.  Which means it might be hard to find help :)
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it was only one when he asked the question
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: What do you mean two of you?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: type client
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: only two people are using mudlet currently
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: there's actually 6 or 7, mudlet keep changing their TTYPE with every release so there's a few in "unknown"
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: apparently there is a mudlet-3.0.0-delta and mudlet-3.0.0.iota etc
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Hehe
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Ah, I see, I just picked the first mud client that works well on both windows and ubuntu
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Mush works well on both as long as you have wine for Ubuntu
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: go for aardmush! it works on both
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ahh - I know many use Mushclient/wine combo.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am actually on the wine/Mushclient combo right now
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: what is the "dumb" client?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I like tintin for command line.  And when I say like, I MUCH MUCH Prefer Aardmush, but tolerate tintin
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Finger ixle for a tintin specifically for this MUD.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: those two will correctly show under 'mudlet' after next reboot.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: How is tintin for scripting/extending functionality?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: See - that's some attention to detail!
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ascun - you can do it.  It's finicky is my main problem with it.  And the error messages are not terribly useful.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Like my favorite error message, missing bracket between lines 1 and 205.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Heh heh that's bad 
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And turns out the issue was a comment that had a bracket :)
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But as long as you are anal about your brackets and semi colons it's not bad.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: So it's not using lua or any existing language? :p
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: hi
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carmine Tech: Hello, anyone here a use of the Aardwolf Mudlet GUI?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: check clients
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carmine Tech: cool, that gives me a number but doesn't answer my question
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yes. you use it
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carmine Tech: if you cant help why respond
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: patience.........
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: he's got a point
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: because you could ask the question in your mind instead of trying to ask if anyone uses things related to your question
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carmine Tech: it's a gated question, people could be using mudlet but not the GUI, and if they aren't then I'm out of luck
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: in tech channel if you ask a question, you could get answer hours later
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carmine Tech: in tech channel we learn to ignore Nuanse
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: still, people that dont use that might have been able to answer your question too if you had asked it
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and Nuanse is right. In tech sometimes it can take hours before you get an answer because people not logged on now will read channel history when they log on
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trico Tech: hello sometimes i've been disconnected
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: disconnected how?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trico Tech: don't know it come sometimes like nothing
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trico Tech: GMCP Mapper: Disconnected
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: because usually the problem is in your end. aard has been up for months and for me only reason I get disconnected is because of my own wlan reboots or service provider has problems.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trico Tech: GMCP Mapper: Disconnected
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trico Tech: ok thx so it's nothing ?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: aardmush?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it specifically the GMCP mapper, or do you get disconnected from the game itself?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trico Tech: i think i've found why ... i copy/paste
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trico Tech: Output buffer has 9996/9999 lines in it (100,0% full).
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: As fiendish answered this at somepoint of his life in internet -> 1) Your database file is corrupted ( see https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GMCP-driven-world-mapper#database-corruption ) -- 2) You've broken part of the plugin by editing or replacing a file.-- 3) You're using a very old version with a bug in it.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you tried to copy/paste the entire scrollback? the output buffer's OK to be full, it just empties as new lines come in
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: mapper cant access the database is the problem I think
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and looking back at channel history from 2 hours ago, I have never used zmud or MUSHclient, yet I (1) have answered a TON of questions on both clients (as well as questions about tintin++ and mudlet), so trying to prune people out by asking if they use MAG is a bad idea, and (2) very often look back at channel history and try to answer questions that I see from hours previously
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: testing...
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: for a working copy of winkle winkle's search and destroy triple pack go to these 3 links and cop/paste the raw paste into notepad or a text editor and save them as the names of the pastes AND with .xml at the end (file extension) into MUSHclient --> Worlds --> Plugins --> Right Click --> Create new folder --> call it Winkle Winkle and put the 3 .xml files there : http://pastebin.com/QYmR3Xeg http://pastebin.com/A4BydEdp http://pastebin.com/LPC1p4Xz Happy Campaigning.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: affirmative.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Or just 'finger nokfah'
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lydinair Tech: Is there a reason, once I installed the mudlet that it has made it so I can't use a lot of capital letters? Like shift+s and shift+d ?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: When requesting a manor, you need to provide a vnum.  Is that the same thing as the room ID in the mushclient mapper?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: no they are different
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ah, is there a way to get the vnum without bothering the imms?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: record the speedwalk to get to the room starting from the area entrance.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: (See also: help new manor)
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ok, thanks!
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: help mu-purchase
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ok, this is embarassing.  I'm having trouble writing a note using mushclient.  I have a 240-line text document formatted with no line longer than 79 chars.  I just want to cut/paste it into a note.  If I cut/paste the entire document, the mud immediately disconnects me (I'm guessing that I'm overflowing a buffer somewhere.)  If I cut/paste smaller chunks, I don't get disconnected, but newlines aren't always recognized in the note and it makes the note difficult to read.  Do you have any suggestions that don't involve me cutting/pasting each of the lines one at a time?  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you want to put a space on blank lines
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Zoot Tech: this could help: http://www.aardwolf.com/note.php
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Thanks, I'll try both of those suggestions :)
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nibir Tech: anyone know how to fix sharptracker to take OPK exp?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: its 2017. why they haven't made the mouse to TURN yet?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone know Abelinc's site for log files?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Magna? ;)
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: lo
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: finger him?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: nice. is that the site then?
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yep, looks like it is.. haha thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is there a way to tell the mushclient mapper to avoid a particular path?  Sometimes it runs me into a wall trying to get to the other side and I'd like it to find another path to the target location. 
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can levellock the rooms in that path.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Most popular place is Masquerade Island and the angry drunks.
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ah, sneaky.  That makes sense.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Right-click the rooms you want to avoid and choose Change Exit lock, and set it to a higher level.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: is there any way to send a command to "wait" in a speedwalk?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: some areas like Keep of the Kobaloi have like a 1 sec delay to be transferred to the next room
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daria Tech: yes, mapper cexit_wait 3  will delay the next cexit you create by 3 seconds
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daria Tech: just switch 3 with whatever time you like
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well it's not really the creation (I've already created it)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it's that I need it to wait when it's executing
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daria Tech: delete it and remake it, so it will wait the needed time
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: h 12
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not quite...
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if there's a cexit where it needs to pause before continuing, that's a different command than the one for when it needs to wait longer to see the end room
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "mapper cexit_wait 3" command just means "wait this long before seeing which room you're in"...you'd use wait(3) to tell it to wait 3 seconds after a given cexit move
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: nice
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: thanks team
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Zhalut suggested adding the wait(x) via tells also
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: +1s all around
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, cool, I just came in at the tail and saw the other advice and hadn't gotten around the -h yet :-)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: =)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I looked up some market logs earlier.. so you might see your name pop up in tech -h Magna
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ;)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "mapper cexit_wait" command is great for things like land of legends or knossos, where the number of steps that you're going to put into the command will take longer than its normal delay, but where you don't need an artificial delay when executing the cexit
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, it does the tricky for like 95% of cexits
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Kobaloi was one I've had issues with though
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm sure there's a couple others out there
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, there's a few where you need the wait in the execution, because when it would try to stack the next commands, the mobprog hasn't finished moving you yet
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umari comes to mind
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ahh yeah, Umari is kind of weird.. it's like sometimes it works and other times it doesn't
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and of course, you could've just fingered my main abelinc for the site as well ;-)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: that's what I ended up doing :P
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it works consistently as long as there are guards and the guards aren't in combat
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: which area requires you to buy the deathmask? that is a good place for this too
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: annwn
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ahh yeah.. I didn't even think of creating one for Annwn.. just always do manually
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but once you complete the goal you no longer need the mask
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ooooh
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and what I do for pasting notes, is that I put @w onto lines that I want to skip :-)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I thought you never skip anything
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Magna, could you say more about that?  Having trouble conceptualizing it
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I skipped your sister last night!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: OooH! Skippy!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when I post notes, I compose them in a text editor, then I paste them into my client in the note editor...durel had asked about an issue he was having doing that with MUSHclient, where it wouldn't keep the blank lines
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so when I want to have a blank line to separate paragraphs, I just have @w on the line...clients won't consider that to be blank, so they won't "compress" it
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it'll be essentially a no-op to the note editor, as the text is already white
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Is there a way to temporarily comment out code in Mush-aliases?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: use --
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Thank you :)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: works only in script. 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: sendto script
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: So... For example my go to amulet alias currently has "rem dual".
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: But it speaks to world
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you could make it send to script by adding Execute ("rem dual") 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Aight :) And while commented it should be "Execute (--"rem dual") "?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: no. --Execute ("rem dual")
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh right, add everything else in the alias to Execute and change so the alias speaks to script and not world?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: that's one way to do it
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Thank you. :) Works perfectly!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: anyone here 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: how do i connect to a public wifi that neede log in 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: my laptop dosent want to open log in page 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: any suggestions 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you need to log in
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: i cant it supposed to open it on browser but it dosent 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: have you tried to go to any page with webbrowser?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: tried google
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: are you sure you are in right wlan?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: wlan?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: wifi
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: yep worked on my iphone 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Windows computer?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: yep intel 5
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: have you tried other browser?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: disconnect and reconnect, sometimes on mine that will prompt a browser to open
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: it opens the browser but not log in page 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: What happens if you ctrl+R on the browser?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: do you have adblockers or something like that which could prevent it from loading?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: And have you tried another browser?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: nice probably add blocker 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: was using chrome trying internet explorer 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Try Edge if you don't have an adblocker activated in that
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farringar Tech: got it working on unternet explorer
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse gives a thumbs-up to Farringar.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: trying to apply the fix to sharptracker, and i get this this error when i try to import the xml. Line   45: Attribute name 'data-pjax-transient' not followed by '=' (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: so the aardwolf ascii map does not follow me around when I walk form room to room
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: now does one reset it?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: type map
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also check automap and maprun
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: try closing mush and re-opening?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: okay maprun was off
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: thanks genius channel
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: cept annuanse
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If I'm trying to edit my /etc/network/interfaces to load my iptables rules using these directions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo But it says to find the line for your interface in that file, I don't see "eth0" in /etc/network/interfaces.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Though that's what I see when I type: iwconfig
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Should I just add to /etc/network/interfaces?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: yeah adding eth0 not a good idea
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sorry no idea about iptables
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: ended up making it so I could only connect from outside network wasn't an iptables error though, was something I added to network interfaces file....
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: alright... coming in late... you want to apply the rules at that website onboot, right?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Correct
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: what is your interface name (type ifconfig -- its the one that isnt lo0)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: it's eth0 but that isnt listed in network interfaces file.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: so don't know where to put rule loading...
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: what /is/ in your interfaces file?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: and you are using ubuntu, correct?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: auto lo
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and then iface lo inet loopback
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: that is it.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: wtf? do you have to ifup eth0 whenever your linux box boots?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: nah
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: it just works :)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: alright.... cd to /etc/network/interfaces.d/  any files in there?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No interfaces.d
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But do see another page saying I should put a file in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Which does exist
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: cat /etc/issue for me
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: just need the first line
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Will try directions at bottom of here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/270693/how-can-set-these-iptables-rules-to-run-at-startup
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Putting this in rc.local worked: /usr/bin/sudo iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.rules
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Now I need to figure out why source IP range 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.255 isn't working!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: 192.168.1.0/24
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: sorry my answers are getting brief... beers will do that to you
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: beers almost make me say too much :(
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: it makes me say too much... but not type
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like "hey girl, I like your shoe laces.. I had a pair of shoe laces I liked once.. my grandma bought them for me.. before she died"
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: never seems to help my chances :/
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I'm pretty sure mentioning dead grandmas nver works :P
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, that's probably why I'm single now that I think about it
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Klotho smirks.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: not true...if it was recent it can help
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: highfive piff
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan enthusiastically high-fives Piffaron!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan waves goodbye from the deck as the U.S.S. Failboat sails away.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I guess that depends on if you're looking for a booty call :P
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hmm!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: And what caliber of woman you're looking for
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan grins evilly.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: like, sorry, I'm feeling down...my grandma just passed...She was such a big part of my life...are you close to your grandparents?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: always end with a question:)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: "How often has that line worked for ya?"
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: never tried it, lol
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: but also rarely been single, haha
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: That was an easy fix had to change eth1 to eth0 in this line: -A INPUT -i eth0 -m iprange --src-range 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.255 -j ACCEPT
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: my gf is 8 years younger and 105 pounds :)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: do you ever bench press her?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah... Usually they love being used as equipment
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I've never understood this need to brag about your girlfriend online.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I've heard that too
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: of f off klotho, it was in response to his question
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: My girlfriend is also 105 pounds.  But don't tell my wife please!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan drools all over himself -- making a TERRIBLE mess!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Klotho smirks at [Outlaw] Mendaloth's saying.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: how would i get the variables(with data) from another plugin?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What client?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: GetVariable("pluginid", "variablename")
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: mush
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: and if its a table do you call it the same way?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Tables are just variables
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: no i mean like var.something
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: If yo'ure planning on using that variable a lot
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I would set it to a local variable
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: hrmmm, i cant seem to get it, always outputs nil
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: another option is to call a function and have the function return the var - that is usually what I do...
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: note they can only be strings in that case.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: (which could be the case with GetVar too....
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: )
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Hrmm
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: In that case, you can use the given serialize functino
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sure can!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: that would be using the callplugin feature right?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Oh, I just realized....try GetPluginVariable() instead of GetVariable()
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: saw that on the mush website lol
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Klotho apologizes to Useful Hadar with a very sincere look on her face.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Been awhile since I used mush, lol.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, much of the point of plugins is to "silo" things...every plugin can have a variable named "MyVar", and none of them will clobber the other...
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i know, i want one plugin to pull the var from my other plugin
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, I know...I'm explaining why what you tried to do absolutely should never work
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why you'd need the GetPluginVariable(), to separate "this plugin's MyVar" from "that plugin's MyVar"
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i know that, its still returning nil when i try to set it up to a local MyVar
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Are you sure you're getting the right pluginID?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just try to get it first, not set it anywhere else
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and are you sure that it's a MUSHclient variable and not a Lua variable?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: if i get it without setting it it just prints out
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: And it prints the right variable out?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it print out?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if so, then you're getting it properly...
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and then we move onto how you're setting it...are you setting a Lua variable like MyLocalVar = GetPluginVariable(x,"y"), or are you using SetVariable(newvar,GetPluginVariable(x,"y"))?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i have it both as local, and setvar as a serilize save
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't recommend doing the serialize save, actually...from a data quality perspective, you're then no longer using an authoritative record
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: thats how i learned to set my variables when writting plugins, so that is how i do it
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one plugin should be master of the data, and the other plugin can be a consumer
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's a great way to write plugins when that plugin is on its own...this project is no longer the case
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: OK after all that work - will someone using IPv6 completely bypass iptables?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they'll bypass ipv4 iptables, of course
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you actually have a public IPv6 address?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No it's behind my IPv4 router.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and using comcast....I have a fixed IP address...
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use ip6tables if you want to similarly cordon off IPv6 stuff, but if your IPv6 stack doesn't actually go anywhere, then I wouldn't worry about it (or you could just turn off IPv6 entirely with no functional loss)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: http://test-ipv6-ct.comcast.net/ says: No IPv6 address detected [more info]
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Guessing that means I'm in the clear.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: still not sure how i should save the data then
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're getting teh data from the other plugin, you shouldn't save the data
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Just have the other plugin save the data!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have the other plugin save the data
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth goes ooOOooOOoo at you. You beam with pride.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i wanted the first one to be self sufficient, the second one just giving info
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You might look into onpluginbroadcast then
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: What exactly is your usecase?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at [Outlaw] Mendaloth.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Have the second broadcast....
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Take a look at bast's for excellent examples...
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only one plugin should "own" a given piece of the data...and that's the only one which should "write anything down" (save)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any other plugins which use the data, should either load the data from the first plugin when loading, or should query the first plugin when needed...which method you choose depends on knowing more about the nature of the "data"
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotta go run and pick up Eureka, will stop back on tech when I'm home :-)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: anyone savvy with laptop track pads?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone have the vmware esxi 6.0u2 iso and vcenter 6.0u2 iso? (i have my own keys, so.. not asking for pirated crap)  i cant seem to get tothe download link for 6.0u2
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: anyone savvy with laptop trackpads? wondering if I can do 2 finger gestures with mine? currently I can't but wondering if there is a way to enable it
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: What laptop do you have?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: lenovo ideapad z575
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Ahh not sure, sorry
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: its my work laptop.. and i hate it hehe
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: btw i'm a dummy and didnt have the synaptiks software installed for the touchpad on this laptop.. am able to 2 finger scroll now
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: you two finger her, two finger her good now!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: oh i will.. this dirty girl sometimes requires 4...
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: Gross.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: dont forget a pinky in the hdmi port
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: might be a little much.. this old hog might explode
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: isn't that the point, then you get a younger better model!
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: haha.. i wish... i'm on my 4th one
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'd like to write a mushclient script that has a form something like this: "mapper goto [some room]"
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: oops, part of it got cut off.  just a sec
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: double your semicolons :)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'd like to write a mushclient script that has a form something like this: "mapper goto [some room]"; "do some stuff"; "mapper goto [another room]".  The problem is that the 2nd "mapper goto" command executes relative to the starting location, not the location I'm at after the first "mapper goto" command.  I could add a dynamic one-shot trigger to call the second mapper command once the first completes, but that seems a little awkward.  Is there a cleaner method to ensure that commands execute in the order given only after previous commands complete? 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I don't think there is
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: there is a delay fuction.....cannot remember the name now
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hrm, other than throwing a timer in there i cant think of any good way to do that... is there a specific room or situation you are trying to do that for?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: wait is the delay function but I don't think it does anything
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I don't want to just do a delay because there wouldn't be a guarantee that the first stuff completed
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I mean in terms of the execute
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: There are a few cases that I'd like to handle like this.  The first one is a simple way to restock on healing and lotus potions.  I want to run to a healing potion seller, but potions, then run to the lotus potion seller.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It sounds like a one-shot dynamic trigger is the way to go.  I just didn't want to miss an easier solution if it existed :)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: can you put in a trigger that turns on with your first alias, listens for you have nothing to sell, then turns off that trigger and moves on to the next?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, that's essentially what I'll end up doing.  I just thought there might be some function I was missing like "waitForPreviousCommandToComplete" or some other magical variation of that :P
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: that would be useful, please let us know if you find it :)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Hmm...Maybe I'll write that function in a generic way using a dynamic one-shot trigger.  It should be possible if you know what strings to trigger on.  
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: you could always put a social or something in the alias and make it trigger off of the return of that
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: True, I could us a social, but I think I can get it in a cleaner, more general way.  This is a more fun problem to solve than what I was originally working on anyway :P
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: you need a NOP before you issue the second mapper command...
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is there a NOP command?  If so, is it guaranteed to complete before subsequent commands are evaluated?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: I don't know mush well enough, but it should flush the stack.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: late to the party..
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but I just echo something and trigger off of that
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: maybe there is something equivalent. i am surprised that you can't you relocate the current pointer.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's not a bad idea and it's close to what Emm suggested with a dummy social.  I might try something along those lines. 
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Just wait til your gmcp room number lines up with the room you entered for the first mapper goto
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: that sounds good, wait on gmcp to complete.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm still a bit new at this...how can I get the room number programatically?  And is it something that can trip a trigger?  I thought triggers only went off when they say output from the mud and I don't recall seeing room numbers in normal usage.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: you mean like mapper thisroom?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, I struggled with the same problem for a while.. realized any script I couldn't depend on for timing.. and speedwalks take different amounts of time so DoAfterSpecial wouldn't work
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: when gmcp data changes a trigger is fired.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: that's how the mapper works, so if you wait on the same trigger you and the mapper will be synchronized.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Thanks for the mapper thisroom suggestion.  I can't believe I missed that...
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm still not sure I understand how to trigger on gmcp data though.  I'm using the AddTriggerEx() function that trips on a specific set of matches text (or regex).  Where does the gmcp data show up and in what form can I watch for it?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I imagine you could tweak the lua code of a plugin like xmapper to get it to execute later, I mean it already does that for the xcp thing
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ah, so I could just piggyback on top of an existing trigger
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Basically if you have gmcp plugin, every time gmcp plugin comes in you get a table of data about everything - room info, your character info, etc.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Then you trigger off of that event
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: mapper thisroom actually goes off before the runto does for me
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It depends on the timing.  Sometimes the second mapper command happens too soon for me and sometimes it happens late enough to "work"
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: because that is a clientside command not in the stack of commands executes server side
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I think you should just set your alias to add the trigger for a specific social output, go to the first room, do the social, and then have the trigger remove itself after runing to the second room
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I just wanted a reliable way to serialize two commands and ensure that the first command completed before evaluating the second.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: I use cmud and I work off the actual triggers so the data is always current.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so like #alias mgg * * [add triger] //n mapper goto %%1 //n smile
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: I have serialization problems too (or I would if I didn't take care of them). Everything that uses gmcp goes through the same gateway, that way I am sure everything happens in order.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I should be able to do this with mushclient.  I think that using a dynamic one-shot trigger is probably the cleanest general solution and I could use that code in several other cases I'm working on too.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you can look at S&D plugin to see tricks for 1 shot triggers
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: yeah but that is in lua not script right?
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: fortunately, cmud has serialization built in.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm playing with lua as my scripting language
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: almost all the scripting in mush is lua
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: well then yeah just look at S&D look at XCP <index>
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: I write my scripts in lua too, because cmud is a client and a server, lua has full access to cmud commands :)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: because it will run to the area, then do a hunt trick on your target, then do a where on your target and set it to your kill target
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: careful you don't go too far :)
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Thanks everyone.  I think I have the info I need now.  I mainly just wanted to make sure that there wasn't a generic serialization command already available.
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: yes, you can't set it to kill your target
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: not in mushclient that I can see, Durel. You can always switch to cmud :>
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, or my target please if we're in a GQ
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: no it doesn't actually do the kill you still have to type ak for that
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you can set a vatiable with the name of the target so a keypress will start combat though
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Heh, my long-term goal is to actually build a clean-room implementation that is equivalent to S&D so I'm a bit reluctant to look at it right now.  That feels like cheating :P
T3/r7/2017-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: i just mean it sets it to be the thing you kill when you type ak
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: yeah, i saw, just trying to stop durel from getting himself nuked
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: anyway I need sleep
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, I'll be careful :)
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: you can always ask us if you have doubts, Durel. Just make sure you have red help bot (and help stack commands).
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: have read*
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yep, I read those about 10 times each so far just to be safe :D
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: is it just me or did google change their search results format?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: orders of pres trump
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: if it was trump he'd make sure his name showed up first under searches for "big hands" "huge hands"
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: so your saying its better now
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: I dunno if I like it or not
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: get use to it or jump the wall
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: so did anyone else notice a change or what? :)
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I get time with mytime = os.time(), can I convert mytime to human readable form? (like Note( textutils.formatTime(mytime) )) 
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: https://www.lua.org/pil/22.1.html
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: thanks! \\\mytime = os.time()
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: thanks! \\\mytime = os.time(); Note(mytime);Note(os.date("%Y-%m-%d %H:%M", mytime))
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I've seen that already yet somehow I missed that os.date part :)
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: why not just Note(os.date("%Y-%m-%d %H:%M", os.time()))
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: maybe he likes to reminisce about old times!!
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: must be :)
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: So atm I use a mobile wireless device through a telecom company here. after 30gigs of 4g (as it runs through cellular) it toggles WAY DOWN (like .25kbs) so loading webpages is pretty long and annoying, and streaming is of course out of the question. now the odd thing I have found is I can still play online games (day of defeat source) with no loss of latency or speed, anyone know why that may be?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just several ports are monitored/filtered
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: so is there a way to have firefox use that same port?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sure, just add :port after website address
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pheal My Redwood thanks Trachx heartily.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but server needs serve webpages using that port :P
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess that your ISP just does something like: if port == 80 or port == 443 then limit bandwidth
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 80 and 443 are http and https
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also you could try using some VPN to bypass such simple filter
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but VPN also can be easily filtered/added to trafic shaper
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: Well I will try a vpn, i mean nothing to lose
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: thanks for the ideas
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I need converting time to human readable form with os.date because that time is fetched from db
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Is there any way to only use the first word in a (*) wildcard in zmud?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Did anyone else just get disconnected?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emeris shakes his head.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Damn you ISP
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trico Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is there a way for a mushclient trigger to trip on output directly from the mapper?  From what I've seen, triggers only go off on text sent back from the mud and not from status or info displayed by the mapper.  
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: As a more general case, if I print something from lua to the screen (status, debug, or something reported by the mapper) can I write a trigger to catch that?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You have to use Simulate() instead.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Thanks, that's helpful!  I'll look into that.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone a regex pro? :D
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: or at least a mush regex pro?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I have a regex with capture groups that works just fine on regexr.com, but isn't working the same in Mush.. so not sure if the implementation is slightly different in mush..
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: as far as greedy/lazy parsing
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's the same... but did you tick "Regular expression" box?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well I'd be quite sad if it somehow got unchecked.. lemme confirm
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: still checked
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What's the expression? Or what are you trying to capture?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I have an alias that I'm trying to match on, it's a run to alias that basically tacks on a where once the runto completes
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so I want to capture a multiple word named area for capture group 1, then the mob name for capture group 2
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: problem is.. I believe everything is getting lumped into capture group 1 from the aliases perspective since I'm matching spaces as well
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: alias' perspective*
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: essentially I want to always match capture group 2 first then go backwards and match capture group 1 later with what's left
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So you want to be able to do: runto this area here mob name here?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: something like this (.*?)\>(.*?)\n.{31}(.*?)\Z
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: right, and it works fine if I only send a word area name
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Geez, 31??
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you can count the characters if you want to confirm ...
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Why do you have a line break?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm assuming that's a c/p from your own?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: mine is an alias that I send myself like "rt [area name with spaces] [mob name]"
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: yeah that's my own. and if i don't it catches anything 
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You'd be better off training yourself to separate them with quotes. so '(.*)' '(.*)'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I have two aliases.. one will match on just rt [area name], and the other will match on rt [area name] [mob name] and send a where when I get there
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: use a shorter area name
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh that's true.. I guess I could do it that way
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well I want a pretty long area name so as to not match on other areas
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: and that trigger of mine is to catch the output from where. wish i could fix it to work reliably
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The issue stems from not knowing how long either is going to be. If you're using only one word for the mob name, ALWAYS, then you can just do (.*) (\w+)
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I just create a table by triggering on "area keyword" so that I can easily convert to a single word keyword for each area but still use the long name if I want to for matches
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yajan, are you familiar with area keywords?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Each area has its own separate keyword you can use for runto.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like the ones that it corrects to in bypass?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: only vaguely.. from that usage
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: area keyword will listen them all.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hrmm!
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can do area keyword fens, for example.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: maybe I could use that instead in my runto lookup
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I also do a lookup for the area name using area, but if I did area keyword I could probably just grab from there
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: kk, I'll kick these solutions around - thanks all
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Again...
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I generated a table with all of the areas, keywords, min/max/lock levels, starting rooms, etc. for everything output by "area keyword" and then dumped the result into the lua code for the array so that I can use it going forward.  I can send that to you if you'd like.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: right.. that thought had crossed my mind, not sure if I need at this point, but may be a good idea going forward
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Since it's programatic, I can easily pick up new area if they are ever added.  It's all basesd on triggers when you run "area keyword"
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'd like to create a mushclient trigger to track the name of each mob I kill, but there are lots of different death messages (maybe one for each damage type?) and I'm not seeing an easy way to handle this with one trigger.  Is there an easier solution than creating a series of triggers that handle each damtype individually?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: maybe trigger off of corpse clean-up?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sac/consume, etc.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: easy way, download basts broadcast_kills and work with that
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yes, that's it!  I had autosac turned off.  
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: won't work if you're blind though
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Thanks for the suggestions :)
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: also if you're grouped, might have issues if you don't get last hit
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but, it's a quick solution
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it's not Your last kill if someone else kills it :)
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: experience message might work
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hehe true dat
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ahh nvm experience doesn't have mob name
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: Bast has tracking in his systems. why create a wheel again? :)
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: "cuz my wheel has 20" rims!"
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan is lookin 4 a ho 2 PiMpsLaP!
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Heh, I know I'm re-inventing the wheel, but I'm mainly just having fun learning lua coding :) I'm trying to solve the problems that interest me as I'm learning the new environment :)
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, I totally wrote my own mapper stuff and didn't use S&D, I'm still solving little edge cases and such, but it's nice to be able to customize easily
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sometimes it is easier/better to use other people's stuff though, case-by-case I guess
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: definitely good for learning.. as you're bound to come across stuff that no one has published a plugin for
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yep, I'm right there with you.  The best way to learn is to dive in.  Honestly, I'm having a blast programming again.  I've been out of the programming game a little too long for my taste :)
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone know how to save world details via a command?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hmm looks like sending [script prefix]Save("") should work.. no output though.. lol
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: k based on .mcl file modified timestamp.. looks like it works
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: why would s&d take me deep into a zone as a starting point? because of when i installed it?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: go to the beginning of the area and xset mark
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Because it thinks that's the start room for the area.  Use regular "runto" to get there, then "xset mark"
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: i'm doing that as i discover them, just wondering why
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: are they areas with more than one entrance like kobalois?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: underdark
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: nanjiki currently
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: so yes. it has to do with the area having more than one entrance
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: mapper picks the fastest
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: er, not nanjiki though, afaik
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: it took me several rooms past the runto entrance
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: so not the entance or the portal landing?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: no, i don't have the portal for that yet
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Dash shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: i was thinking maybe because i had explored some of it prior to installing s&d, i dunno
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: ah. it might be a winkle logic thing, i guess then.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Older versions used the date the rooms were added to the database to determine the first room. The logic being the first room you went to was probably the first room of the area.  That's no longer the case, and the date added field was actually removed a while ago.
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i don't use it
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: thanks metria
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: not sure if it will reach a majority of the users, but for those of you that use sharptracker, what are the main features you like?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shelkin Tech: test'
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: test test
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Anyone use lemonbar?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: is that similar to lemon party?
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Lol
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Similar to polybar
T3/r7/2017-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: is there a way to color mushclients help files? or would i need to make it a function for that?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lupine Menolin Tech: Can I create a virtual private network via Android, can I piggyback the local 3G network for free internet?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lupine Menolin Tech: if I create*
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Do you mean use your phone as a wifi-hotspot?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lupine Menolin Tech: lol no, I mean connecting to a mobile service provider with a vpn and stealing internet from my isp
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: How would your ISP not e
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: How would your ISP not know you are connecting?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lupine Menolin Tech: using Orbot
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: I don't think vpn is stealing internet..
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I don't think you will be able to do that. They know how much data is transfered to you
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lupine Menolin Tech: TOR network 
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Tor doesn't hide the fact that data is being transfered to you
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pheal My Redwood is agreeing with that Giddorah person again...
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: TOR/VPN are just used to anonymize traffic
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: I think you understood vpn wrong..
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Tor only makes the actual data you recieve is harder to read
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean regarding your ISP
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you use TOR or VPN - your ISP cannot examine your traffic
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Exactly, they still know exactly how many bytes you recieve and send though
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however exit TOR node can intercept your traffic (quite often exit nodes do that)
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lupine Menolin Tech: meh, was a shot in the dark
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Hehe
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: not even
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: all depends on how does your ISP filter traffic
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if there are some services without limits or only some with limits - you can bypass that
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lupine Menolin Tech: in the effort of full disclosure, I'm nowhere near as savvy as my inquiry may have suggested... I just have a tendancy to delve into the rabbit hole if you were
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Hehe, it's okay. See if your neighbours networks are open. :P
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: your'e eleven with parents that don't give you attention. got it. perhaps stick to Reddit.
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however I doubt that your 3G ISP just filter some services, much easier is just count your transfer then limit it to 10k after you've exceeded limit
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lupine Menolin Tech: aww Redwood... why so salty? been losing hardcore mode again?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: havent been hardcore in over a tier. try and stay relevant
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lupine Menolin Tech: My apologies, sir... 
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: np :)
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pheal My Redwood pees around himself intently.
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Is there a way to paginate the 'aff' page?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Have you tried the 'saff' command instead? :)
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Yeah, but that's still not paginated either
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: pagesize
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Pagesize does not seem to work on those pages
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Maybe post a note on ideas?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pheal My Redwood rapidly nods twice at Giddorah, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I don't think anybody would mind that to be optionably pageable :)
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Yeah, it would be nice to have. I'll post a note
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Same goes for the resists page
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: use "pagesize 104" and replace the pageprompt with: pageprompt ##########1234567890##########1234567890##########1234567890##########
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: paging the aff and resists is surely to be annoying
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can check affects for specific stat
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or spells/skills - like "aff sanct", "aff dex"
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: It would still be nice to have as an option. I guess a few people play on small screens, and pagesize is made for exactly that purpose.
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think you should post it to bugs board
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: would be nice for those on mobile
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Exactly :)
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: not a bug
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you set pagesize and output it not paged - it is a bug
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: I would think the pagesize setting should apply globally, to everything.
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is either bug in how pagesize works or in "help pagesize"
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: seems there is no scrollback on those mobiles
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol wouldn't it be nice if pagesize worked a little more like a linux less file? space to go one page in, b to go one page back
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 70 lines per screenpage here. scrollback here is set to scrollback on the top 35 lines
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: this permits current action to be viewed, while looking at the scrollback lines
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if you are PK, you don't go scrolling back whole page by whole page - when you get back, you may be dead
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: self-paginate with  PG;aff;PG  where PG == echo @W##########1234567890##########1234567890##########1234567890##########@w
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: even set up a mudside alias
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: use a brief version: alias afp echo @W##########1234567890##########@w;;aff;;echo @W##########1234567890##########@w
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the default "pageprompt none" is difficult to spot
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: although pagesize is set to 104, extremely glad the 110 lines of affect all displayed and did not break 
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: usually pagesize is 210, but today was disconnected when displaying tech -h 
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there were 130 lines of new tech since prior login
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: usually 200 lines does not disconnect
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but some may view "affect" not breaking per pagesize as a "bug"
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what is "annoying" is that pagesize also counts the 2 pageprompt lines.  hence pagesize 104 instead of 100, or 210 instead of 200
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: in Dina font monospaced?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: nice
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: where am i most likely to find dell gaming laptop releases in orlando/fl?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: newegg.com?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh i mean stores
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: walmart
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: newegg.com and dell.com require american issued credit cards
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Amazon?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: amazon is very good but they haven't gotten the new inspiron gaming yet
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i'm affraid i'll have to locate a store which is most likely to have the releases in stock
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: good luck
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: you're in orlando? why not just open a bank acct? then you can get an american cc
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: stores in America have been replaced by amazon and walmart
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i live in brazil, but i was thinking about the possibility of opening up a bank account in there. not sure if i can and upkeep cost
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: try best buy
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: newegg always seems to have the best selection and prices
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: are there such things as "digital/electronic bank accounts" with no upkeep and "no upkeep" credit cards?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: because we have those in here
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lupine Menolin Tech: bitcoin?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what exactly does a "bitcoin" look like
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lupine Menolin Tech: ones and zeroes
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: does america not do prepaid credit cards?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: they do
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: then all lobisome has to do is wonder into a shop that sells them and charge one  up then go on a spending spreeeeeee
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: sold at any walmart and most other chain stores, some grocery stores even
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: he could just give me the money and I can buy it ;)
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: where do you live tol?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: prepaid credit cards: fixed surcharge for the card, surcharge small percentage of the amount, they expire, and may come in inconvenient amounts 
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with prepaid credit cards, you pay a "premium"
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hm. that could also be a good option
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the store gets some money, and the credit card company gets some money, even more so when the cards expire
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: does newegg accept those?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: does customs in Braxil charge anything on incoming goods from the USA
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: there are rules (i work for the irs which, in brazil, does the customs :D) basically: $500 free of charge limit plus one watch one cellphone one camera. rest is 50% "simplified" taxing system
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and what happens if there are "problems later" with the merchandise
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: and clothes, as long as they're used during the trip (not for sale, "people" aren't allowed to _import_ for commerce) are free of taxes too
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: gotta go, lunch time :p
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: especially if monies are required to expedite handling
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: laters!
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: thanks for the tips
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there is a Paypal USA and a Paypal Canada.  perhaps there is a Paypal Brazil
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: not sure what you mean about paypal, I have two paypal accounts, one linked to my US card, and the other linked to a Banka Intesa card (serbia), but the parent company of that bank is in sao paolo, so maybe look into opening an account with them?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: and both my cards work fine.
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: both accounts rather
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Amazon takes Paypal
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Paypal doesn't expire either (?)
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: not that I know of I have cash sitting in there from afew years ago
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Paypal trumps Visa 
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: could someone do me a favor and tracert 50.56.6.211 ? all my hops are missing from 13-30...
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: you do understand that fundamentally our tracert is different from yours, right?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: just want to see if it's my end or not
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: nah... its not on your end.note
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: nah... its not on your end.note
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: thanks koopa
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: im still letting mine run... but its not abnormal that tracert doesnt resolve all the way
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: reason I ask is because I can't access wowhead on chrome nnor edge
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: browser comes up blank
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: loads for me
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: worked fine 2 or 3 days ago on same i.p and router
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: if it loads blank and not an error, that is telling... tells look
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: bah
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: tried changing my DNS primary & secondary to no avail
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: yeah www.wowhead.com loads for me
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: nslookup is a totally different IP for me though
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: I know... ends in 120-123 right?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: nope...  doesnt really matter what it ends with, its probably load balanced
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: 123 is the only one that doesn't time out on all 4 default ping requests from my end
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: looks like I have to wait for demi-god wizardry... fook
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: I'm out
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: suggest me a good free android emulator please
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Visual Studio?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: is there such an emulator or you want me to code one from scratch with visual studio?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: there's emulators built in to Visual Studio
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: and visual studio gives it for free?
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: hmm.. tehy don't mention a price.. so, ima download and see I guess
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corran Tech: what is the most current version of MushClient?
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: for aard? the one from the aard website
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corran Tech: Nod
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: latest is always from the site in fiendish's finger
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corran Tech: thx
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aard website only updates the link periodically, but fiendish updates things between then
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corran Tech: nod
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: what was the mush toggel fullscreen key combo?
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: its strangely difficult to google for, can someone just click on "view" menu and tell me pls?`
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: twas ctrl+alt+f:P
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I just started playing around with plugins and it isn't clear to me what pieces of a plugin are exposed outside of the plugin.  I can use aliases in a dummy plugin I wrote, but is there a way to expose functions or variables from a plugin?  Or is it entirely in its own sandbox other than the aliases it implements?  I can work with either answer, but the answer will dictate how I architect things.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Oh, this is for mushclient.  I should have mentioned that.  :P
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can reference other plugsin by their ID.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is in its own sandbox, but there are hooks to let you access it from other plugins (or outside plugins)
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But other than that, everything is internal to the plugin itself.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use CallPlugin(), or GetPluginVariable() for example
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: For instance, GetPluginVariable.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Excellent.  Those look like the pieces I was looking for.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if there are pieces of your plugin that your plugin updates regularly and that you want other plugins to know about, there's OnPluginBroadcast()...this is what is used for GMCP stuff, for example
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bast's plugins are broken up into the "gather the data" plugin, and the "give the interface/miniwindow" plugin, for example
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: onpluginbroadcast can be used for more then just GMCP stuff, it actually listens to many different things
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: most things you would want in a plugin have been written by other people, so its good to download them, even if its just to look over the code
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Good advice.  I'll probably take a look at Bast's code, feel deficient, and just use what he wrote :P
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: The good news is that my leveling rate would probably increase :D
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: it can be daunting, his and fiendishs code can be a little difficult to read at somepoint :P
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: pft, leveling increased, i only level to test that my plugins are working now =/
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm used to reading difficult to read code from my co-workers.  The difference is that I suspect Bast's code actually works...
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: my code is difficult to read, sometimes, when i dont take the time to make it pretty *shifty
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Arcidayne, when you updated (purchased) sector-type field3 in extra room 2 of the old manor, did that automatically update the room from indoors to outdoors at no extra cost
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Profoundly Guinness Tech: yes that's supposed to be adjusted according to the room sector chosen
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what does nomap do to a manor room - anything useful
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the amount a T0 is likely to spend to purchase+update replicate the Acidayne old manor seems to be 90 tp 102,750,000 gold, 6225 qp 
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish burps loudly.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: hi fiendish
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: oh man, there goes tech!
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Fiendish is druink?!?!
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: fiendish is drunk. *
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: he usually is
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I might be drunk also ;)
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: its okay, we all need that bender once in awhile
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: findish is there something in mushclient where i can delay a trigger from being fired and test for another trigger? (basically I want Trigger A to fire, if Trigger B does not fire within a second trigger A will fire)
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can do that , sure
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: here's what I'd do
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (without having thought about it much)
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: trigger A fires and activates a timer for 1 second that actually will do the thing you want
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if trigger b fires, it cancels the timer
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i forgot about timers, have not really used them
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you will want https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=DoAfterSpecial
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: DoAfterSpecial lets you send to script ("12")
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: What kind of things are you trying to do? You might be able to just throw it in a single trigger
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so you'll want to define a function that does the thing you want, and have your DoAfterSpecial call invoke that function on a 1 second delay
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Since either one or the other will fire, but never both, elif was made for it
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: it would have been nice if mush could do millisecond timers.  o well
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I believe he said he wants to have two triggers where one that may or may not fire cancels the previous one
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's pretty clear
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient can do 10th of second timers. why do you need millisecond?
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: further, if your computer isn't busy doing anything else, OnPluginTick will get called up to 25 times per second, but it's low priority to Windows so it gets coopted by other activity
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my repaint buffer plugin actually makes use of that
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: cool thanks, ill check it out in a bit, im kinda going through all of my plugins right now, adding my help files, and fixing bugs i have noticed
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: That's fair, it is what he said. I'm curious as to what the actual goal is though, because sometimes there's another way to do things
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah maybe, but this question wasn't asked in a way that made me think "this person just doesn't know"
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: its just for my gold tracker, because when you are in a group 2 seperate messages get sent dealing with the gold (one if you get the kill, you then get 2 lines of text) or if you dont get the kill,  unless i probe GMCP for gold values and look for changes, i dont want to do that, so i was going to do the two trigger method
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: probing GMCP is actually pretty easy
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: of course you still need to trigger if you don't want to use OnPluginBroadcast
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i know it is, but im also seperating how the gold was gained/lost, ill probably do some GMCP probing to deal with auctions because there is no real message when you lose/gain gold to an auction
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: is there a list of gmcp vars and maybe a howto for using them fiend?
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: theres been a couple of things i thought about doing using gmcp but i dont have a clue how to use it
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: other than dissecting some other script but that doesnt tell me all the available vars
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: took m a bit to figure it out, but once you learn its quite easy
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Using-GMCP
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ah sweet, thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think the list of what's available is on http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: and Grushnak i maybe new to plugins on mushclient but im not new to coding scripts for the mud
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: wtf how did my xterm option get turned off :(
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Hadar, I didn't think you were. I thought you expressed what you wanted pretty clearly. But just because you know which way is up doesn't mean someone else can't have a better idea :)
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: long live zmud
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can find my zmud scripts at http://www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf/zMUD%20Scripts/
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: shame there is no zscript plugin for mush :)
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: wait, let me open up cmud, those are some of my favorite scripts :P
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Psh, gone through zMUD and CMUD, now on to TT++
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i tried TT++, i hesitated moving to MUSH because I would need to re-do most of my scripts, most of them where lazly coded in both zscript and lua, so now i need to remake them all from scratch, but most people i know would ask for plugins in mush so i caved and moved over, to learn
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the major problem moving from zmud and cmud isn't the zscript part. It's the different windowing system.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: miniwindows are very flexible but also very difficult to set up
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: cmud likes to crash when resizing windows
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: that, and the mapper works completly different
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: it did it the other day, corrupted the database, and took out my entire script system
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i have to remember to open my doors now
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you could program doors opening in if you wanted
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i could, but i have other things on my list
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i have like 3-4 plugins im working on, then i need to work on getting hadar.ninja back up to date
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I didn't add it in because it's already doable with cexits as they are. I didn't see a huge difference between "mark this exit as a door" vs "start this cexit with open door" except for maybe prettiness
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i use one trigger to auto-open doors, with an alias for each direction
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: mainly i just get upset with cexits that are not in a speedrun
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea i set all doors as cexits, my auto-opener is only useful when im manually moving around and bump a door
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: but its fixable, will probably get around to it if i ever get back to leveling
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: long live zmud
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: is there currently a way to get silverlight to work with chrome? I googled and tried the setting flag thing (But it was removed) i have firefox installed so im using that to view the website
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: I would think not, as google and microsoft have long had incompatibility issues. ive never been able to get silverlight working in chrome, like you I use firefox when needed
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Is Silverlight a NPAPI plugin?  Chrome permanently disabled those
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shelkin Tech: Yes Silverlight is NPAPI
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It won't ever work then, Chrome disabled those in Chrome 45
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: thats what i thought
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is there a "clean" way to get a mushclient script to reload when you modify it during development?  If I modify and save my script, I need to do something manually (e.g., open the mushclient trigger window) to get the client to reload the script and pick up my changes.  Even worse, I just created a module file and use "require [file name]" to pick up the module in my main script.  If I change the module code, I think it is getting cached somewhere and I need to manually break the "require [file name]" command (by changing the name to a non-existent file and the changing it back) for the new module code to get picked up.  Help me with my design flow!  What should I be doing instead?  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i dont know, i normally just hit ctrl+shift+p and reinstall that way, takes like 2 extra seconds, i find it longer to copy/paste from my working directory to my mushclient directory lol
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: ^
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ah, so you recommend just using plugins exclusively for your active development?
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can add a 'reload' code in your plugin to reload the script.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I thought it would be easier to wait to build the plugin until I had the code fleshed out and mostly working
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: yeah i find it easier to just use plugins
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I did that with a script, built the triggers and stuff first, then built the plugin for it.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: OK, I'll probably give the plugin design flow a shot.  It can't be worse than the monstrosity I'm using now :P
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i just made a template file, and update it as needed, make the plugin ID with Edit>Generate unique ID
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i dont think i have had to open the triggers/alias' anything inside of mush since i firsted started making plugins
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't even need to create the Unique ID. You can use whatever you want, provided it's not used by anything else.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: was not sure how it actually worked, was thinking about just using my own lables for them
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyways, back to trying to figure out how to do a plugin updater
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: OK, just to be clear, you are talking about generating a plugin xml file and then you just do your active development on that xml file directly?
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: yeah, i made my first couple plugins with the wizard, and from now on, i use a template xml file i made
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Excellent.  We're on the same page.  Thanks again!
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: This page is too crowded now..
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: all the file has in it is a trigger, and a couple alias' and my new helpfile function
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ok for regular expression gurus out there.  how to unconvert ^action ( {1,}(.*)){0,1}$ to plain language please? 
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That is a very weird action.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: I bet there is an easier way to do it.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Yeah, that's a really, really weird way to do it
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: does it work?
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Essentially,  it's "action followed by at least 2 spaces, but could be unlimited spaces, followed by whatever, if it exists, and only one time after that.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: No, the whole sequence either appears once or no times.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: yeah, I suppose that the {.1} applies to the preceeding space.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: nod
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: sorry, the {1,}
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Knew what ya meant :)
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: but that's not how it was designed to be used :)
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: well what it does, is that it supposed to pick up a number after action, but that number isn't 'required'.  and when i look at my send field, the number is picked up as %2  i wrote this while back, and can't recall what the original alias field looked like before having had converted to regexp.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Number after what action?
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Solid examples please:)
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: example again:  [23 Jan 22:59:06] Negader Tech: ok for regular expression gurus out there.  how to unconvert ^action ( {1,}(.*)){0,1}$ to plain language please? 
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: No, I meant what string arey ou trying to match the action to
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: isn't a trigger, it's an alias, does it need to match?   match action   or action number  wheere number is a single digit
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Er, action is a trigger, not an alias.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Ohhh your actual alias uses the word action. I see.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Okay so if you need to just match that, then do ^action( (d+))?$
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: and that would allow the # to be optional?
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: I assumed that "action" was a literal.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Then, for mush I'm assuming? You can check if there is a number by checking if "%2" == nil
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: but if it isn't, the %2 capture above makes sense.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Er, I mean check if %1 == nil.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: if "%1" ~= nil then -- %2 is your number end
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: right my first line in the send field shows:  if "%2" == "" then    
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: And you made sure to select regular expression, right?
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: And send-to script?
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: yes. yes.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Okay, then do the if statement I stuck up there.
T3/r7/2017-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: the -- denotes a comment.
T3/r7/2017-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: can anyone explain how to make triggers on seperate channels so multiple sounds can play at once and not interrupt each other? for example, I'd like to make battle sounds but put them seperate from the channels.
T3/r7/2017-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=PlaySound
T3/r7/2017-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: that should do it for you
T3/r7/2017-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: thanks.
T3/r7/2017-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: and do you have to write a whole new xml for this or is it somewhere in the program itself? Remember my knowledge is limited to triggers and the concept of scripting, in other languages.
T3/r7/2017-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: woot! just taught myself to make my first macro lol
T3/r7/2017-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: good evening. Is Abelinc here please? Pleiades send me here
T3/r7/2017-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: im trying to play aard on the fmud flash client. But for some reason i cant get connected. Give me a black screen and if i press numbers only give me direction. 
T3/r7/2017-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: from work?
T3/r7/2017-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: yes from work. Nightshift and boss knows lol. He just looked at the screen and say he got no idea what to do 
T3/r7/2017-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archilles Tech: So I've been following this dude around as he does his campaign and I can't seem to enter cexits. Is this just me?
T3/r7/2017-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sometimes you have to enter them manually.
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: is there any way to change xrt or speedwalk directions?
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: exitlevels from mapper
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: I guess you can make your own alias too..
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: otherwise xrt uses shortest path mapper can find
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: hmmmm ok, thanks for the advices Nuanse and Soulstealer!
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: you can mark rooms as do not enter by setting the level restriction on them
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: Hadar!! omg
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaqal Tech: does s&d work for global quests as well? Seem that it cannot run campaign and GQ simultaneously?
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I've used it for a gquest but I wasn't on a campaign at the time so I don't know if it will work while doing both
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaqal Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: publicly-distributed S&D by default does not do everything on GQs (by design)
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, it only worked as a list keeping track of the mobs I think
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I couldn't click them or something if I remember correctly
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: But hey, you get a visible list all the time. That's already a huge improvement
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: it can give you a list of gq mobs in the window by gq c.. nothing more.. 
T3/r7/2017-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Exactly
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: anyone know much about linux displays?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am having an issue that after turning off and on a display, in an 3 monitor setup, all of a sudden the resolution on the third changes and panning is enabled
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: what info is stored in the world .MCL file?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: mine went bad, and would like to know what i might be missing
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you can check it by opening in notepad or similar
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it's xml file
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: thought i tried that, guess not
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: there is a way on mushclient to display the prompt line after every message recived from the mud?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: how is dat?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It's in the settings somewhere... I'm on zmud for the moment so I can't really help you find it
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: But it is a checkbox in one of the settings
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: thank you ill give a look
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, it is there. I know it, because I asked a couple of weeks ago :)
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: why would you need a prompt after every line?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: i like it that way :)
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh wait, I might have misunderstood you
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I only read half the messages before I answer most of the time anyways
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: tech lol
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: if you want to see your health while idling, just turn on tickinfo
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: You didn't want the command prompt to save your last command?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: no just my prompt to show up after every input
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Hmm
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: That sounds more like a mud feature than a client feature. Have you had it like that on any other client?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: on my zmud i had it
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Hmm
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: as in this prompt --> [1076/1076hp 484/955mn 1432/1432mv 30qt 1380tnl] >
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Is it possible to disable the coloring of room names only?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: put tags on for roomnames and trigger that string to rewrite the name without colors
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Ah, I'm wondering because color codes for room names still show up in gmcp, and mudlet does not handle that very well.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yet another reason to change into aardmush :)
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Isn't there a color mode off setting in Z?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Err... Aard
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Yes there is, which disables every color in the game :p
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Just wondering if it's possible to disable it in gmcp
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: color
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: ansi
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: can you edit the gmcp packets in mudlet, and strip the color codes, before they are processed?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Well yes, I would have to fix it in mudlet itself, and recompile it entirely
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Because the gmcp table is not even updated, so there's no processing to be done in any plugin
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: It just does not process rooms with colored names.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: is the mudlet mapper working here, or does it still require x, y, z coords for rooms? I haven't checked in a while
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Ah, got it! There's a setting called 'protocols gmcp rawcolor' that turns off colors!
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xor Tech: hi, how do I bind arrow keys to movement in mudlet?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: anyone familar with gmcp info?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: depends..
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: trying to find what it sends for opk bonus on questing
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: One second
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: quest.opk?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: GMCP QUEST is {action}{comp}{completed}{56583}{daily}{0}{double}{0}{gold}{3970}{
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It's just under OPK.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: just opk, not quest.opk?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: GMCP.quest.opk (not sure case matters or what it is.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: well trying to add it to a working script, replacing the following lines with the opk to see if that would work before trying.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: if tonumber (gmcpval("quest.opk")) == nil then last_quest_tier = tonumber (0)
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: else last_quest_tier = tonumber (gmcpval("quest.opk"))
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: but replacing tier with opk
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I think that would work....
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Only one way to find out, sorry I don't have the latest gmcpval or whatever, always done it through older methods.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: cool. just wanted to see if there were red flags from anyone here.. never really mess with the scripting on things, this seemed like a easy thing to try
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: uhm, new mushclient user, how do you get the commands to stay in the command line?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I think it's a setting you can toggle on
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: alt-0 and repeat command from right side 
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: nice.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: uhm, running in WINE on a mac
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: game-configure-commands
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: nice x2
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it's not "keep commands on prompt line"?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: is that different?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: uhm, new mushclient user, how do you get the commands to stay in the command line?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: whoa, must be working?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: oh yeah, thanks, that was it  :)
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan wildly high fives the air, looking very foolish -- very foolish indeed.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: well not really, the up arrows to go through previous commands worked...
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i just went tooo far
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: so many things from my old client just gone.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i could play on it with my eyes closed.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: once you get used to mush, you wont be missing your old client
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: that's botting! :P
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: haven
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: haven't playe in two years and i still rememebr all the commands
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i've had that client, and those scripts for probably 10 years of active playing.  gonna be hard to not use them.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: btw, you misspelled your name, it should end in T instead of R
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lyrik laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Ziiiing!
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: what was your old client
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Mush aint so bad, just different
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i dont even know how to do a spellup without my scripts.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: mapper alone will be worth all your scripts and some
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: try "spellup"
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: kal what was your old client
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: Kallenbor you should check out WinkleWinkle plugins.... they are for the pure lazy like myself
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i have zmud, and everything mapped.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: being able to complete a campaign with 2 commands is kinda uh... yah well its so lazy but damn its fast
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: what is the current version of search and destroy?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: well, everything that was around before I quit that is
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i never got my scripts that sophisticated
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: finger nokfah impuritan
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: current version is 2.8 i believe
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: current version of what?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: search and destroy
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: isn
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: atleast that's the latest version i could find and I installed this mud new years
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: isn't that botting though?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: search and destroy just enhances mapper
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you still need to do the commands to kill and go
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: nah .. what nuanse said.. and it uses hunt trick
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: hunt trick?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: so... xcp 1, go 1, a k, repeat haha
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: remember, two years retired  :)
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: help hunt trick
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: works with normal quest too
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: ahh, that.  yeah old trick
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: it
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: it's so standard for me to do that i don
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: it's so standard for me to do that i don't even consider it a trick
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: and I still typo a semi-colon for the apostrophe
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: whats wrong with your enter key?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: I just answered that  :)
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: i'm not quick enough
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: I god mushclient running.  I wonder if I can get zmud running in WINE
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I used zmud through wine years ago.. shouldnt be problem now
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i think i tried it years ago in the commercail WINE app and couldn
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i think i tried it years ago in the commercail WINE app and couldn't get it to work.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: mapper didnt work back then, otherwise it was just ok
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: I think it is called crossover
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: wow, this mapper maps well.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: i just need to figure out how to add stuff to it for opening doors and entering stuffs...
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: 'mapper cexit <blahblah>'
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: mapper cexit open east;;east
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: gotta be in that room?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: it's not a trigger?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: ahhh ok so something like 'mapper cexit harmonize' works then eh?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: nope, mapper uses those cexits primarily for moving from room to room
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yeah lyrik
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: hot damn!
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: You can do pretty much whatever you want. The mapper pulls the room you're in at the start and the room at the end and as long as they're different it'll save the stuff you put after cexit as 'this is how you get from this room to the other'. So if there are pop load keys, or store keys, you can include retrieving them in your cexit.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: mind blown... ok so if i need to buy something, and give it to someone to get something, and take that something to someone... cexit blah di blah di blah, and then it will continue the route?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yep
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lyrik gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: The only real limitation is that you can't kill a mob automagically to get a key and use the key because that would be considered botting
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: yes because you can't automate kill commands
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Mostly. I've noticed particularly where you give things, the mobprog has a delay which can mess up the mapper. There's only a few areas I've noticed it in, so I haven't bothered trying to figure out how to put them in properly
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just use wait(1) as a command where number is seconds
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lyrik moves poop!  . ..<<!Boomsplat!>>.. .
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: @Durel that's botting??
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I don't do it.. just surprised that's different than a cexit
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I didn't think that you were allowed to have your client automatically kill a mob without your intervention.  Maybe I'm being conservative in my intepretation for cexits?
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I mean I get how it violates the "letter of the law" as you're sending an autokill command, but that's not the target you're actually after, so as long as you don't kill your actual target automatically I do believe it doesn't violate the "spirit of the law"
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: killing automatically is BOTTING
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: No, I don't remember the helpfile off the top of my head, but at least one of the helpfiles explicitly states that you must execute kill commands yourself
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: thats what i read as well
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: start with help botting
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I always imagined that was in the context of not killing your target mob
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: regardless if its a gq or not, a trigger to kill is illegal
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it is a slippery slope though to get too exact as to which mob you kill, so I imagine that's why it's just overarching this = always bad
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yes, I can read thank you.. lol
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: I rather like it as a hard line. I may be misinterpreting, but I take to end up meaning you can do whatever you want for movement automation as long as you manually kill
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well I think it's *intended* to be literally interpreted, so as not to leave any gray area
T3/r7/2017-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but I imagine the IMMs would *like* to allow people to autokill a key mob if it's not the target, but the sad truth is that that freedom could (and probably would) be abused, and so therefore they've been forced to have it be all mobs need to be killed manually
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: (mushclient)one of the plugins i wrote errored, and im not exactly sure what the error means, can someone help? http://pastebin.com/PaQxbq1a
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: [string "Plugin: HadarClanDonate"]:170: attempt to index global 'math' (a number value)
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I guess math is some value that contains number, and you've tried to do something like math[x] = y
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: or you tried to use what you thought was a number but Lua thought it was a string, try tonumber() around math before you use the value
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: fing hadar
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol mis
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: well then
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: pastbin the function
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: http://pastebin.com/BJcLd21V
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: change math to something more like xmath
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: math is name of something other in Lua
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: http://lua-users.org/wiki/MathLibraryTutorial
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: easy way to tell would be to do type(math) before the print
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: probably not a number
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: post roundup also please
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: the error is coming from roundup not really from goldquit
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: anyone else get displays randomly changing where they are when using multiple displays in ubuntu?
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Which window manager?
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: using the nvidia-settings to set it up
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: x is the display manager
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: the middle screen keeps going exactly 30 points down which makes the first screen pan at the edges
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, I've usually had a lot of random things happen when I use Linux. Can't stand it any longer, too experimental. Have you tried Mint instead?
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I have not
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: You are, right now?
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am what?
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Having random things happen to you
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it just happens randomly where it changes the middle display to 30 points down
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yup, those are some of the irks
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mint isn't instead of linux, mint is linux (unless you mean the original mint on ataris)...
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I know... I meant if he had tried another distribution of Linux to see if the window manager works better.
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: And no, I didn't mean on Atari. :P
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I tried fedora once, but my wife just got used to ubuntu and she needs to use this computer
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: any way to make a sound play when double starts? Another Mush user here
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: just define trigger
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: how?
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: something like that: https://www.dropbox.com/s/x9mhw54jtpp3698/gqtrig.png?dl=0
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: that is actually for GQ, but for double you just different "Trigger" part
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: just define several triggers:  ^For the next 10 minutes (?s)
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: ^For the next 15 minutes (?s)
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: and: ^Double experience(?s)
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: and: ^\[ 10 minutes of double (?s)
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I think you can skip that for the next 10 minutes one - it is previous SH double IIRC
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: can anyone help me? I removed the chat plugin on mush. how to enable it again?
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: file>plugins>add
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: no chatting for you!
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: anyone know where I can get the Rainbow text plugin?
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: castro district?
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: castro 
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: this plugin should come with a warning - too many rainbows and you be quieted forever
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: you can try moby dick at 18th and hartford
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make Me Purr Tech: So I'm running into issues loading up a copy of mush on my hubby's PC; namely that when I use a fresh install without my aliases/triggers/extra plugins etc.. his resolution is such that I basically lose all of my mini windows and can't see them to drag them back into view. Including the chat log. Is there a way to get my aliases/triggers/etc that won't also bring over miniwindow positions?
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make Me Purr Tech: I mean, when I load up my old .mcl file I lose everything out of view. Fresh install is ok, but.. lacks my aliases and triggers and such
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: resetaard ?
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: or you could move all aliases & triggers to some plugin
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make Me Purr Tech: will try resetting. semi related, is there a way to turn chat echos back on for main window, when you don't have the context menu in the communication log to do it through? (in case reset doesn't work, since I'm about to be loading the other stuff)
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: actually it does not seem that mcl file carries window positions
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Zoot Tech: just type chat echo on
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make Me Purr Tech: thanks. going to try things.
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Make Me Purr Tech: Ok, this time it worked. Thank you. I must have been copying over some of the plugin files and doing too much at once and messing myself up.
T3/r7/2017-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm running mushclient v4.98 via wine on a Mac and it *mostly* works.  If I let it go idle too long (several hours) it hangs and spins one of my CPUs at 100% until I manually kill the process.  Have any of you seen something similar or have a work-around for that?  Wine spits out lots of warnings too: "fixme:ntdll:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet" or "fixme:win:LockWindowUpdate (0x0), partial stub!".  If the locking mechanism isn't reliable that would explain almost everything -- except why other people aren't complaining about it :P
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: So I am about to go from win 8.1 to win 10, is there anything I need to do for/to mush?
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: i have 4.81. i just ran it after win 10 installed and it was ok
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: awesome, thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: you're welcome
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: is there a way, on mushclient, to set the number of bad move attempts the mapper makes before aborting a move to command?
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: well what is causing the bad moves?
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: combat with aggro mobs
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: and yes i'm all the kinds of hide/snak/invis anyone can be
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: finish the fight, run the goto again from that room and it should just pick up where it left off
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: if usind s&d just type nx
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: it does, but it stacks so many commands that you could get mugged too
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: mugged?
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: often the fight is over before it begins but who knows who else might use it to ambush or some such evil device
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: I understand.. the combat isnt lasting more than a round, the stacked commands are running you the wrong way?
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: ummm descent to hell has no shortcuts that i know. if you need to go to the last rooms, that's 60+ rooms
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: so you need to cexit the rooms you find those small aggros. mapper cexit <dir>;;wait<seconds>;;<next dir>
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: that will give you a pause to allow the combat
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: a better question might be, is there a way to cancel input from mushclient? some clients have a special character that will cancel input
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: well yes
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: ctrl+k 2x
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: that hard dc's you
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: well that's not much good :p
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: but you have no idea what commands the mud actually gets before your side dc's
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: otherwise no.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: no, it's easier to just wait it out, i was hoping there was a way to shorten the stack
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: then add the wait cexits, and it should all still go smoothly automated
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: but thanks for the input
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pheal My Redwood rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Hi folks.  I've been playing with lua scripting this week and I'm a little paranoid about crossing the line into botting.  My interpretation from the helpfiles is that you can auto-run to a list of mobs in a campaign as long as the script stops in the mob's room and you manually enter a kill command after you enter the room. I just tried out my script that does that and completed a campaign in 2:18 -- and that included a mob in the Gauntlet.  Is this really legal?  It just feels...wrong.  I've never used S&D but from discussions here it sounds like it does the same thing.  Am I just being paranoid?
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: It is legal
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it is ok
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: paranoid is good and that does sound like a typcal time frame for that level of campaign with assistance
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: when in doubt, check with an imm
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: eventually the actual combat takes longer than getting to your target
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: As you described it, that's legal
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ok, thanks.  That makes sense.  I'm still trying to shed my old-school thoughts on scripting :)
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: It doesn't mean that Search and Destroy type scripts are popular or even approved, but as it stands, and as you describe, you're within bounds.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: anti-scripting, and even some of the anti-botting logic / through process, is, IMHO, antiquated.  But the rules are pretty clear on it so just stick to those and DO ask questions as needed.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, I'm trying to overcome my original anti-scripting bias.  When I started mudding (ages ago) I refused to use speedwalks and memorized paths to locations because I thought speedwalks were borderline.  I've come a long way :P
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: that's pretty hardcore
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ugh. Ever since I classchangd, Bast's spellup plugin works great for a bit, then stops recasting spells as they drop.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: stupid question but.. SNs don't change right?
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: do you play on different pcs? might have the spellup reload
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SNs don't change
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: SNs don't change, and no, always the same laptop. Weird though is that another spell fell off, then all my spells recast.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Reloaded the plugin, closed MUSH and restarted, etc.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: any irregularities with text prompt (leading white space showing up sometimes, etc)?
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try the bsp command that tries to automatically add all spells (bsp add all maybe?)
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: does his plugin use gmcp tags?
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it uses gmcp and tags (no such thing as gmcp tags ;-)
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it uses gmcp to know your state (don't cast while in note mode, sleeping, etc.), and it uses spelltags to know when a spell goes up/down and why
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: wondering if the gmcp bits are buggy sometimes.. (state detection)
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Did that too, Abe. Did bsp sremove all, bsp sadd all, bsp refresh, etc.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can sleep and then stand to get it to notice anything like that missed
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: odd enough, sleeping and standing recast them again.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hmmm, it probably thinks you're sleeping when you're not
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: or in a different state than you really are
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It shouldn't, though. Quite interesting.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah.. bugs are the difference between what code should do and what it does do =)
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I wonder if you have some other plugin or trig interfering
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't think so. Nothing's changed as far as scripts go. :p
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: your scripts and plugins are different things :)
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well if you're bored you could crack the thing open and see how it detects when *not* to cast a spell
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Eh, if I'm bored enough, I'll just write my own again.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, they're different until they start touching the same shared resources
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first see if it was an anomaly...
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: except OnPluginBroadcast isn't limited to one plugin
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glennis Tech: how do i change fontsize please?
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: game|configure|oupout then click on font botton
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ImmPrudent Anaristos Tech: assuming mush
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glennis Tech: thankies!!!
T3/r7/2017-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glennis Tech: now i can see what om typing
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone know why SendNoEcho is sending with an echo?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I don't know if it's a new server thing.. or some setting that got toggled somehow?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sendnoecho is mushclient side?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what do you mean by echo
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaewan Tech: how would you make a global array in lua?  or is it possible
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: array = table
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: global has many meanings
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaewan Tech: like accessing it between a trigger and an alias
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what are you trying to capture/use? if they're both in a plugin, then that's much easier, as they share a "scope"
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaewan Tech: just trying to learn, but i'd like to capture exp and do calculations like average xp per mob
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for exp, use GMCP data
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: is there a quick notepad button in mushclient? Like hit a button ton the toolbar to get a persistant note? Almost liek ctrl-shift-h poping up the script file?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: you mean mapper note (ie room specific one) ?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Alt+4
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: ctrl alt W
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: alt 4 is what I Was looking for
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: On the World Tool Bar, the icon is three right of the computer monitor icon(Output).
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: thank you thank you, I thought I saw it once but never could find it again
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: although those two don' lead to the same "notepad"
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: sure they do, I just put something into the alt-4 one then hit the button and it kept the buffer
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: well on my version of mushclient they are not  the same notepad
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am using r1887
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: the alt 4 notepad saves in the world file, the other shortcut I believe is for independent notepads
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: They are the same thing.
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: not the same thing on this copy of r1887
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: is there a way to change laptop settings? so i dont have to hit fnkey to press a function key?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: surface pro?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: no a basicdell  inspiorn 15
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: 3000 seriesif thaat helps
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: isnt there an FNlock button? or if your fn button has a light, just push it once
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: no there isnotoggle lock
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: oh wait ... looks like it is on esc
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: <--- long time desktop usr :P thanks !
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: no worries :)
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xor Tech: does aardwolf support SSL/TLS encryption?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No it's telnet connection.
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Does mushclient require an installer now?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: trying to find the latest version but I can't seem to find it on Fiendish's page, only the "installer"
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then choose branch you like and click "clone or download"
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, wasn't an anomaly. Has stopped recasting. Again.
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: how do I make the group monitor bigger, i'm using a bigger screen had to increase the font
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JediSnail Anaristos Tech: they are resizable, you click on the grip (bottom right corner) and drag.
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: nope will not let me
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JediSnail Anaristos Tech: no grip?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JediSnail Anaristos Tech: we are talking about the aardmush client?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: type aard layout unlock
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: had to reset to default
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JediSnail Anaristos Tech: well, as long as it is unlocked you can drag the windows back to the size you want.
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: my Mushclient mapper wants to take me through Xyl to get to Archipelago of Entropy. Anyone else have this problem?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you need an entropy portsl
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you have cexit for portal that is fastest way to entropy. put cexit lock in it and you are fine
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: portal: exit in area. not portal you carry
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: ... ami missing an exit in XYL? I didn't know there was a way to the continent from the xyl portal.
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: there is portals in xyl that take you to continents
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: guess I never paid attention
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: entropy and xyl are just a few rooms from each other
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: enough to make cexit for em :)
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I have a portal for both
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so do I, but the portals aren't to the beginning of the area, and knowing the noportal speedwalks is handy for things like nomorgue CRs :-)
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I think the mapper wants to use the Xyl portal, which lands near the handsome devil, then to find its way to the start of Xyl, then walk to Entropy
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: no zhalut. you cant get into start of area from portal entrance of xyl
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: city has portals that lead to near entropy and such. mapper wants to use them as it's shorter than walking 
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to recall, then type "mapper where 29772"
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: are you referring to the vase?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: vase yup
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hopelessly Mackenzie Tech: anyone using wine + Sierra Mac OS? I just updated to Sierra and it's constantly crashing when I use the copy/paste function, any ideas? 
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: I need help. When i runto somewhere, i have an old mapper that keeps going through the "new touchstone" clan hall. anyway to reset that?
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: walk through it to see where it makes the wrong turn, right-click the room with the bad exit, and delete the exit
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use "mapper where" to see the directions that the mapper would take to go somewhere, without actually moving
T3/r7/2017-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: brilliant, you just soled my problem.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: how does bast regen works?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: work*
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: how does bast regen script work?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: is a "certified" refurbished prudct less likely to be defective than a brand new one?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i mean refurbished. certified or not
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: anyone know where to edit the 10 minute sh lod to 15 min sh loud in winkewinkle ticktimer? 
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: copy double_init function and name it double_init15.. change double_timer to 29. then change trg_double trigger scriptname to that doubel_init15
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: trg_double3 trigger
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: thank you Nuanse :)
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: qget
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: err quick question, what is the double timer before i change it to 29 :p
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: bot!
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: nvm figured it out
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: qget is shorter than quest request :P
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: what about q r
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: too many possibilites for typos :P
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: whats your usual overestimation rate when considering time consumption of a project?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: mine is mostly 4x more than predicted, whatever it may be
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: is there anything I can put on my computer that says "hey stupid, I'm not plugged in.  if you forget to plug me back in I'm going to stop working." ?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: monitor? if it's black, you havent plugged it in
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: some monitors are white
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: eh, yeah, I have my brightness all the way up even on battery :P
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: as far as I'm aware, every major OS has an indicator that shows whether the computer is plugged in
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: the little icon on the bottom right?  I'm way too unobservant and forgetful to notice that :(
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: make a habit of observation
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: while you're here, what's up with the mush installer? does it actually install anything (e.g. in registry) or is it just a faster way of unpacking all the required stuff?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm also certain that every major OS gives an alert when the battery is running low 
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: depending on system, there are millions of battery monitors out there
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I can't hear the alert when I'm across town :(  too much loud music when in college :(
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimpo Tech: There's addons you can get that make it more visible.  BatteryBar for example
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: see, that's what I was looking for, thank you :P
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impuritan frowns at what The Jerk Fiendish did.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: heres an idea... plug it in when you arent using it
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the installer does 2 things. it adds a small registry entry of the location of your previous install (makes it easier to install on top next time), and then it unpacks but skips certain files if they already exist (like your state files and world file)
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: are there plans for a new snapshot anytime soon?  I see the last one is a couple of months old.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes, when Nick gives me an official build of 5.05
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: 5.05? I really should upgrade my 4.81
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I need this change http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/showrelnote.php?version=5.05&productid=0
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Tell Nick to add zscript to it ;)
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: zscript is stupid
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: so
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the major differences between mushclient and zmud/cmud have nothing to do with the language anyway
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I think lua is stupid.  Not because it's stupid, I just would prefer to do things in zscript.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if you know zscript. lua should not be a problem :P
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: major hurdle is that mushclient just works differently
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: any plans to make MUSH multi-threaded?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Lua is stupid. it is also, however, fast and portable.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: just what kind of bot are you running to need multi threading?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: does fullscreen work nicely in the latest build?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Almila - a very sophisticated one
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I already have partial support for spawning threads through Lua
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: using the llthreads module
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: when it's finished, my bot will be able to level, quest, cp, fly an airplane, land a person on the moon, and make tea!
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: It's how I do asynchronous networking
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I want the make tea only..
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: if I'm really on the ball I'll add a feature to make the computer get back in the kitchen and cook me some pie, but that's going to be next version I think.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: cook a pie? who needs that? fetch a beer.. now that would be an improvement
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: added to request list
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: When is 5.05 coming out?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: when Nick builds it
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I imagine he'd do it if I asked. I'm in the middle of some things though that I want to get done first
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: so after running MUSH installer the client will still be portable via flash drive?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantik Tech: Yeah, its portable.  Just run the .exe from the folder.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Cool
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: okay, install was successful.  How do I add S&D?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: place the folder on external drive and run it from there at any comp you are on.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: i went out of town without my laptop, bought a laptop to later return, and found my mapper was fresh =( made sense hahaha
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Correct
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: like I said, the installer is just a slightly smarter unpacker that adds a registry entry, but the registry entry is only used by the installer and not by mushclient so it's still portable
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: impy: if you had S&D before, and you used the installer to install to the same place as the old one, then S&D should still be there
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: shouldnt impuritan just copy his current mush directory to flash drive?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I haven't had it before
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I get the feeling that maybe impuritan is setting up for the first time
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impuritan nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, you said "will it still be portable", sounded like a continuation of existing usage
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: continuation of previous expectation I guess
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: no worries, abe :)
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in that case, when you run the installer, choose the flash drive...then install S&D and anything else you want according to the plugin's directions
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for S&D, get from nokfah
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's still the hunt bug in nokfah's version, but it'll work with current aardMUSH (unlike S&D from winkle)
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: i'm using winkle version just fine
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you'd have to be using a version of aard MUSHclient package that's around a year old
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: all fresh install.. either that or i'm just not noticing bug
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: otherwise, you wouldn't be able to xset anything
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Lyrik: winkle's version won't work if you ever upgrade your aardwolf package
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: at least that's what I'm told
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: personally I have no idea
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: having never used it
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: sounds like speculation to me
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll complain about no date column
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: is Nokfah's version good or is it still kludgy?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's not speculation
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nokfah's is winkle's, but with the fix to let it work at all
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: meh.. works fine for now i guess
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was never any more or less kludgy than winkle's
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think you didn't actually get winkle's, lyrik
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: does someone else's version say winkle? lol
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nokfah's will say winkle
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: I added extra kludge in my version
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I wonder where wiklewinkle went
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he just fixed the brokenness, so he still calls it winkle...it's just that you'd download it from a different place than scriptalicious which was winkle's site
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: tech i got it from scriptalicious
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you ever need help adding kludge, hit me up. I'm an expert.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: oh, i didn't mean it in a bad way.  I heard the old version had problems of some sort, is all.  
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: variables are much less kludge than appropriating a database field for a db that you don't control ;-)
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the old version isn't nokfah's, that's winkle's
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so many people over the years make some script that people like and then they flame out and vanish
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, the polarization of S&D contributed to him leaving...
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Bast got tired of updating. Winklewinkle vanished. Nocilis stopped working on blowtorch. Lunk kept changing his name so often noone could keep track of him...
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: So do I just copy these four files to... where, exactly?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I need to get Danj to start writing scripts for MUSHclient. Some of my best early ideas came from him.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lunk also removed his archive every time he ragequit
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: lunk's was better too. I believe he took mine and fixed the hunt regex.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he actually did have a fully-fixed winkle iirc
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Danj's QP averaging thing for whois output is how I learned to write zmud scripts
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Nokfah.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Aardwolf's runto command exists because of Danj.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well it exists because of me, but what I did existed because of Danj.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, your scrape of contsw command?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: automatically updating speedwalks by scraping the help file and then using his fuzzy runto command
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc danj had the only spelltags spellup script for zmud
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's modularization is also reminiscent of danj's setup
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: so all I need to do at this point is explore (well, re-explore) the areas and then I can use S&D to find things?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: why don't you just copy the folder you're using now?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I never used mush other than very basic trials, and since I already have a well-developed script package in cmud, I just stuck with that.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: S&D is just an interface on top of the mapper. It will be able to find any rooms you've explored before S&D.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: want qps though so will use MUSH to cp and cmud for actual grinding
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: whatever works
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: not ready just yet to re-implement 12+ years worth of scripts :p
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: any plans for new versions to 'dock' windows?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: well, I added the S&D files but I don't believe it's working
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no plans for docking in the near future
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: yeah, I don't see it in my plugin list at all
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe one day, but it would require me basically rewriting miniwindows
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: oh, there it is.  now all I want to do is resize the window for it, but it seems it doesn't let me
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: wow, you just click the room name and there you go.  that's hilarious. I can't believe this is allowed.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: Can only resize the window by editing the _GUI.xml file
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "I can't believe this is allowed." - that same sentiment basically chased winklewinkle away
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's also why I don't condone using S&D
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but nobody cares what I think
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: well, they harp on the botting rules ad absurdum, so it's just a bit of a surprise, is all.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think the reality is that campaigns and whatnot are a fun little exercise whether you click the buttons or not
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: they'll definitely be a lot more fun since I don't need to grind my fingers into powder to do them anymore
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and if Lasher really wanted to eliminate S&D he'd solicit ideas for a new kind of campaign where it wouldn't be effective
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I like sd.. I returned to game after so many years and I wasn't really into re-learning all the mobs again..
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: eh, you do them by masses later on if you like. its part of the game. if this would gone.. omg
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: you can use S&D with 3 commands
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: would be gone some day*
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I do think the screen is fairly cluttered though, but then I have a very basic cmud layout and don't have mapper on by default
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: cmud is great but some of the windowing stuff, and the mapper, can be a bit of a pain, so I kept most of the scripting at a text level
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: maybe it's time to buy a 70" 4k tv, set my computer resolution to stupid, and just use that as my monitor
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: too old to use small fonts?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I like fixedsys, I've tried literally everything else I can find, but fixedsys was the font I learned to mud with and I just can't give it up
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: if I could just edit that stats output window, that would be pretty cool.  I actually did a bit, but it was harder to do than I expected.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can hide most of the miniwindows or remove their plugins if you don't want them
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I actually like them, I just am used to being able to modify stuff easily, so this will be something new to learn :)
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: trying to reposition mapper window, can shrink it, but doesn't seem to want to move
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: oh, there it is.  the place to click to move is near the top.  really nice work you've done fiendish, on behalf of everyone I thank you!
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: is there a way to clear my command bar using esc key?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: So, to get into call of heroes using mapper, it looks like I need to add a cexit to this room?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: gunna be adding a lot of ceits
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: forgive the stupid questions, this is my first time actually *using* it
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: if you have a virgin mush map. it'll be a lot of cexits..
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: yes, first if its lacking the knock to enter the area. or use the portal. then three more, friend/fun/foe
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: just don't forget double semi colons for open doors
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: 4-5 depending
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: and it's OK if I build up a mapper database and make it publicly available, yes?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I guess so..   I was offered a full map when I started but I kinda think it's fun and torture to do it yourself!!
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I would just do two versions, a barebones basic functionality get-from-a-to-b without portals or other bells and whistles, and a more fleshed out version for those who do have portals and whatnot.  Idea being that if somebody's computer goes belly up they could just get that and not have to redo it all.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: could you walk me through making a cexit for this room?  I just don't want to do it wrong and have to clean up later.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: mapper cexit blablabala     works for one command
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: well, when you run to call with mapper, does it automatically take you to mystlin ilvathorn?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: says cannot find path to barbarian front
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: right
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: mind you I know this area like the back of my hand :)  just never approached it like this before :)
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: so, youll first need to do a mapper cexit at the room with the cexit in aylor
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Ohhhhh I think... I'm having a thought.  Yeah, that's a thought!
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: that's pretty slick, you just hit 'nx' if it's the wrong room :P
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: thank you for all the help guys!
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: and girls!
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: and trans! and apaches!
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: So the code in this stats readout is pretty complex.  I don't need the options for the window, I would prefer to just write such a readout myself.  Can this be simplified, or how would I go about doing that?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: you could just edit the one included to suit your needs
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: as an example of one customisation I don't display my gold as 153654 in cmud, I display it as 0.1
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: anyone else experiencing connection issues?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I actually did edit it and it worked, but it's very complex compared to what I'm used to
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: off and on -- not sinc last log in though
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: i just dropped 3 times
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: maybe I should just screenshot my cmud layout and put that up
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: so, if the s&d can't find a room (because the area wasn't mapped fully), when I do map that area can I tell S&D to 'recheck' ?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: when you got a hallpass from abelinc to visit said room
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: once s&d finds it, it will know it next time
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I mean for the current quest or cp
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: oh if you enter the room before killing the mob, yeah
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: any way to make mapper tell me how many rooms in the area have been mapped?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: mapper unmapped here
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: well, that's not exactly right
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: sorry, misread the question. I blame alcohol.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: it's definatly not mapper purgezone =)
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: WOW just found mapper zoom
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: mousewheel zooms as well, hover over the miniwin
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: not for me... just scrolls main window
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: lunk - https://github.com/maybeaardwolf   -  no url in finger.  MIA?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: getting an error - cexit failed, open east leads back here.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: except, it doesn't.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: delete the cexits there, and create a new one if you want
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: how do i do that?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Wait, open east does lead back there
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: exactly.. lol
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: You just opened something
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: and did not move
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: you open east, then need to move east.  
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: okay, thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: mapper delete cexits, I think
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: first day using mush mapper, bear with me, and thanks ;)
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, it is
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: if failed, don't need to delete
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah you have to double up the ;; in mush
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo is agreeing with that Negader person again...
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: okay, that worked.  thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I set a bunch of cexits when I first got it and had them all just opening doors
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: still deleting them..
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan bonks himself and grimaces in pain.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I made aliases to create open <dir>, move <dir>
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I can't get over how S&D makes it so much faster, this is crazy :p
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Like 'mxe' for mapper cexit open e;
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: .. e
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Yes, welcome to the fine line of botting!
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I made one called mpc <dir>  that way I can specify the direction and it makes the mapper cexit to that direction
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: That is a lot more efficient Tol
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Oh, that line is nothing new.  Shame my attorney (me) didn't defend the case successfully.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: just remember botting is always an option... just not a good one.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: rofl tol
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Botbait!
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: in mushclient, is there a way to make F1 do a macro instead of trying to launch help?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: i 2nd that question
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: in cmud, F1 is my quest request/complete button
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daria Tech: how? sooo irritating when it launches help
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: File -> Global Preferences -> General -> F1,F6 are macros needs to be ticked.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JediSnail Anaristos Tech: you can override the button
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: got it, thanks
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daria Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: is there a way to clear my command bar using esc? :p
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Next time, Daria, try practicing patience. The answer was coming; I just had to make sure I was directing it properly. :p
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: she's fine
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Set up a macro for it, sure. :p
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daria Tech: I was seconding the question, not being impatient :)
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: i had already seconded it =D
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: wow enabled smooth scrolling... so nice
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: ok reverting back to impuritan's questions about mapper.. are you able to create cexit from aylor to bring you to an area that requires entering portal from another area?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: if i download an iso file, and want to have run it off a thumb drive as a bootable, do i need to do something 'special', or do i just move the iso file to the thumb drive?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: sure, lyrik, but it might not be the fastest route
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You wouldn't use a cexit for that
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: as in getting to prosper... trying to make that less painfull
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: usually, you want cexits to be as direct as possible. and portals to just land in the room where they land, otherwise you are creating paths that don't accurately reflect distances travelled
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: gotcha
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can't just toss an ISO onto a filesystem and have it boot. You do need something to 'burn' the ISO onto the stick and make it bootable.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: getting into prosper would just be an alias
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Use something like rufus to make the stick bootable
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: ya but then i couldnt just type "go 1" LOL
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i think it would be wiser to not create something like that to get to prosper and instead just get there the "hard way" until you do the prosper2 goal and get portal there
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ok, googled, and found rufus.  thanks.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: like if you made a cexit to get to prosper from the beginning of lemdagor or whatever, if you tried to get to some of the deeper lemdagor rooms, it might use your arbitrary shortcut to prosper then try to backtrack to your lemdagor room, which is a far longer and more complicated walk that takes you past the witch
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: things just stop working like they mean to, because the game sees the cexit, regardless of distance travelled, as a one-room move
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: this is very true.. ok nevermind haha.. portals trump that mess
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: which portal lets him skip it? the share ownership?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: right
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: hard to find unowned shares these days since the newer portal from the goal is owned
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: we can take it to tell but i may have an extra for the right plice
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: FOR RENT: vertigo share :>
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I'll rent it
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: you can always get someone with a portal to open a nexus to you.
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaewan Tech: so when if i want to use gmcp to collect exp on kill, what would the syntax be?
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: you would need to write a function to handle it being broadcasted
T3/r7/2017-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: best to look at some scripts that use GMCP already, my repop one is a real easy one to read
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: how do I list cexits for room?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daria Tech: mapper cexits here
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I have a cexit to Callhero 'fun' room, but S&D still failed to find the target, what went wrong?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: The room was Soldiers' Tents, can certain chars mess up the detection?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: room name was wrong?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: if i remember right.  there is an up room from the comtinent to the area
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: the room was a duplicate name but mob was where it usually is
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechist Tech: Are a few points of instinct in Haste really effective for a mage?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: It doesn't hurt.  Haste instinct seems to be more effective than most because your haste attack occurs very early in the attack order, so you get lots of rolls on it.
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechist Tech: OK thanks I'll leave them alone then. :)
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: just remember botting is always an option... just not a good one.q r
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: is it possible to set up a sound trigger for doubles without having to write up and set it for all the double messages somehow?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: it wasn't before.. but maybe they're gmcp now.. need to read the last announce note again I guess
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: is there a line in common?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ah wait, sure there is, you know how the prompt has a specific thing for double?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: trigger off of that
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i dont use prompt
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: prompt is spam
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: he wants a sound trigger to fire at the start of double..
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am looking in the gmcp stuff to see if it comes up
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: it's only 4 triggers for all doubles though..
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: almila there are ways to make that happen from aprompt trigger and only once.... just need to think about it
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: a bit more
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i have the sound triggers but thought it was a good time to clean up my mush.
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: your normal prompt doesn't fire when you're idle.. so.. if you're afk you won't know it..
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I always wished double time would be in tickinfo though..
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: people use a single newline to trigger not going idle... you would know it then
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: hi all. any one that can assist me with this game on a anroid phone please?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: thanks again for helping me get mush up and running, teaching me how to use mapper, and S&D.  This is pretty damn cool.  Props to fiendish and whoever else has worked on this stuff, really good work and I hope you all keep it up.
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: S&D is WinkleWinkle's
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: so maybe today people know .. https://github.com/maybeaardwolf  what happened to Lunk?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: he renames a lot
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Renamed
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: hard to keep track of :p
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: any ideas?  
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Asperger's Cheezburger shakes his head.
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: ahhh well that clued me into more searching .. apparently he quit and removed scripts. http://notes.gaardian.com/author/Bloood
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Hunh. I would've swore I recognized the name, but I only really started playing Sept/Oct of last year
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: did he have some scripts other people do not?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: I'm not sure.  I just like to collect I guess and stumbled into his name.
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: fing tol masrok
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: not many yet but building
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: really all i do is code if im around now, or chat
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: welcome to the club
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: you join my club, i have been chatting since before you were born :P
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: doubtful but ok ;)
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goblinator Tech: can someone help me get my stuff back
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: by that i mean aard birthdate lol
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol for this character maybe
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I remember v1
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: been around for a while :)
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: it still counts, i was playing circle muds when v1 was around, did not find out about aard until a good while in
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: I got redirected to from Aardvark by Razor :P
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: #old
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: any one online here now please?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: What do you need?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: lol Abelinc nice try :) 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: why if i type : runto hedgehog if i was at recall as it is a autimatic command will it give me run errors and abort speedwalk? 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you might need a boat or to fly
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: you need a bigger boat...
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: i do have a boat and it is not everytime it doing this
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I just ran that way and it doesn't look like you cross water.  Have you been entering cexits manually?  Maybe something bad got entered?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: what run errors do you get when the problem occurs?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you're at recall, type "echocommands", then "runto hedgehog", then "echocommands", and see what it says for the commands entered
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: your runprefix is based on a portal. if you're trying to rt from a noportal room, the first step (entering the portal to recall) fails, and the rest of the speedwalk will take you nowhere
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: the runto command doesn't fail at the first error, but at the third, or something like that (for reasons unknown). that's why you get those messages and fail to reach your destination
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: Durel when at recall i just type runto area name. Then it will stop and say alas, you cannot go that way x 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: what does runprefix show you?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you're at recall, runprefix is ignored
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: then it give me speedwalk aborted. 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: it say hold can.. 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do the "echocommands" thing, that'll tell what the MUD is seeing from you, to see if you have something client-side overriding your runto
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: another thing to try is typing " runt hedgehog" (with the space, and with ignoring the o), which is likely to bypass any client-side aliases
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: if it was the runprefix then it would have been doing this all the time. It is happening on diffrent times to diffrent areas. Never the same area 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: uhmmm, did you happen to be affected by web?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: no as i only come back now after linkdead
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, web and sloth could both cause failures
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so what did the echocommands runto say?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: how do i do that on a phone please Abelinc?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on what app you're using, and how it handles scrollback, since you'd need to scroll back up
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: as i typed the same now to get to hedgehog as earlier and took me here without any errors. Same command nothing diffrent
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: as i typed the same now to get to hedgehog as earlier and took me here without any errors. Same command nothing diffrent
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: sorry for sending again 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: could this maybe happen due to network related issues? 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: try 'rt hedge' from a different room (2s from recall for example)
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: i've noticed if i'm on a laggy wifi, i'll get speedwalk errors, that may be all it is
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: connection issues would impact client-based speedwalks, but they shouldn't impact using the actual runto command
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: will try that now Nocens 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: i did go 2s of recall type rt hedge. Started running and give me error on speedwalk again 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: then it's a runprefix error. check the first lines from the server after your command. there should be a problem there
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: it say you do not have that item. then run 2 rooms ans the error start
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: are you using the garbage can or the academy portal for runprefix? see that you have that in the inventory
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: using the garbage can. Going to take this runprefix off and see how it goes
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: thank you all for your help :)
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: that won't work. if at recall, rt will not use runprefix. if anywhere else, rt will fail if not using runprefix
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: do you have the garbage can in the inventory? that item is melt-drop
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: im holding it now still as i was using it 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: its in my inv now as i dual my weapon
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: make sure you put keep on it so wont accidently drop or sell it
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: your runprefix should be something like this: hold garbage;enter;dual weapon
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: check it, maybe there's some error there
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: i have keep on mostly all the items i need to keep Mique :) lol kade the mistake once and learned a lesson :)
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: i cleared the runprefix Nocens. Will make a new one and see what happens then. But if i use the same way you tyoe it all it show is : hold garbage 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: ok i cant set a runpredix with that punct mark. throw all after that away. The reason for my runprefix not to work
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: If you're using the aardmush client replace each ; with ;;
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: you can. use two semicolons instead of one. like this: runperfix hold garbage;;enter;;dual weapon
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: that looked like four ;)
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nocens p
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: im using a phone Grushnak :) 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Blowtorch? Then your escape character is a tilde, you just want to throw one before each ;
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: ~; instead of ;
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: thank you :) will try that one 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: ah there it worked perfectly :) thank you for all the people that helped woth this one. 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: working all good now. Runto knossos while in hedgehog with no problems :
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I thought runto only works from recall
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maokai Tech: you can set a prefix that will be attached to the front of runto
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: yeah, right :)
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: well apparently not Pleiades ha ha. Much easier to do cp's amd gquest now mmm 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I was referring to using the runto command while not at recall
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I'm not talking about mappers or S&D or something similar
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: It works :) 'help runprefix'
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: ah
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: seems slower than a direct mapper though
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: it looks like you are still going to recall (or hotel) and starting a speedwalk from there
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Slower than mapper, yeah. Faster than recalling manually
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maokai Tech: yeah but nice when your on mobile
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: or when you have an empty mapper database. or no portals. or no`
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: for me that is playing on a phone and cant use mappers or plugins and all those i will say it is faster to go arround between 2 diffrent areas. Less typing and waisting time on hold and dual 
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone know of an easy way to get current quest timer from gmcp?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: From group.
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: looks like you can if you're in a group..
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: right..
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: just to make sure I'm reading this right.. comm.quest.status is just telling you what the gmcp output is for status changes related to a quest right?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not like things you can query to get quest timer
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I would need to have a group created to get the information from group, correct?
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That would make sense. You can have a group of one, though.
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah.. I know.. just wishing I didn't have to set up something to always be grouped to get the info
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh nice.. if it helps anyone... under config you can toggle "tickinfo" on
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: quest timer is in there...
T3/r7/2017-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I was triggering off of tick to get quest info and gag it.. much easier to just toggle that on and gag it
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: when i go to global commands, input-commands and check keep commands on commandline   why is it not keepingmy commands on commandline?
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: So I'm messing around, looking at how the mapper is put together (which is rough as a newbie to programming who doesn't know any lua), but I can't seem to open up the .db to see how the data is formatted. I pull it up in Notepad++ and all I get is unhappiness. Any hints?
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: is a database. if you have firefox, can use sqllite manager addin to view it
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Thanks! That's the direction I need. For whatever reason I think database and think csv, which is probably just wrong
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: I see that the mapper stores 'environment' and 'terrain' data. Are there instances where that's useful for navigation, or is that just for output to the display?
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: How can I ensure I get disconnected if I am not at they keyboard while I am away? I have triggers that send messages to group for zone repop and doubles. If I send those commands to a window, does that mean I won't reset the game's idle timer?
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: If you send those messages to output directly to another window it shouldn't reset the idle timer, but if you just redirect the group output to another window it still will
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: are those configured in a plugin?
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Yajan, yep but easily editable. Grushnak, which window do you send it to?
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I mean do you care about zone repops when you're idling?
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: You could send it pretty much anywhere. Personally, I'd send it to my main window because I don't want it buffering out my chat window
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I mean, I just disable any triggers when I go afk
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm sure you can programmatically disable the plugin and re-enable it when you come back
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: I don't really worry about idle times, I just don't use scripts that will repeat themselves to keep me active, but if I were going to, I'd see if there's a way to detect every time I enter a command (I expect there is, but I don't know it) and use that to reset a 30min timer at the end of which it would 'quit'
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: And that would solve the issue for any set of scripts you choose to use
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: ahh, okay, maybe I had things confused, so pushing a stat up is worth it, say to 550 or so?
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: absolutely
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: oops, miss :) supposed to be on question LOL
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should try for 600 in primary stats as you're sitting...enchanters will be 600 int/wis/luck, for example
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: is avast! free antivirus worth it?
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: better than nothing
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however best is to use VM for net/running untrusted apps 
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no AV will save you from unknown virus
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terminator Tech: test test
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terminator Tech: Is anyone here familiar with mudlet?
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terminator Tech: Nevermind, I solved it.
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bumbar Tech: people my mushclient crashed and i had to download it again
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bumbar Tech: is there a way to resto re database or something to get all data back
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bumbar Tech: anyone here??? 
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bumbar Tech: how do i restore aardwolf database on mush client
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bumbar Tech: can someone give me a hint
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: do you have your old mushclient folder
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bumbar Tech: i have some files from terehe
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bumbar Tech: i have folder named db_backups
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: you will need to copy your aardwolf.db file from your old one to your new one
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bumbar Tech: i have files named Aardwolf.db.Backup_Automatic_old
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bumbar Tech: do i just rename them
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: is there one that doesn't have _old, just _automatic?
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bumbar Tech: yes tehre is
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bumbar Tech: but i think that one is maibe corrupted
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: rename the file and jsut remove .Backup_Automatic
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: well you can play around and change out the dbs
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bumbar Tech: thanks mate
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bumbar Tech: i will try
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: just put the file name Aardwolf.db in the parent foler
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bumbar Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bumbar Tech: ok thanks again
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Before you move or change anything has someone advised you close out mush and copy the entire folder somewhere safe?  That way you don't accidently erase something.
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Anyone know a way to keep the print() function's color to not bleed to the next line in the client?
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: mayber add @w?
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: tried that but it apprears that the print adds its own
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Add a blank print()?
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: heh, nope that just adds an extra line and still colors the next line
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: How about print("%w")
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Err 
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Err @w
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech:  returns a w on the end needs escaped
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: @w returns a w on the end needs escaped
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol, forgot to escape it here also
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hmm it does not like having color codes in the print statement
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: its just printing the @w
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i'm trying to install ubuntu, but stuck on 'choose your keyboard layout:'  it has English(US) on left column selected, and on the right English (US) selected.  under the 2nd English (US), it has English - Cherokee, Colemak, Dvorak, ... and so on.  I don't see Qwerty.  I can't seem to go past this screen.  'Continue' button is grayed out.  anyone have clue what i'm to do please?
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: English (US) is qwerty
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: He said he doesn't see that option
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he said it's selected
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: he is seeing some type of sub types of English(US)
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: so,the two are chosen, but 'Continue' buttonis grayed out. wont allow me to click on it. and continue to next page
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you just want English
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm pretty sure I've never done anything but hit enter past the choose keyboard screen
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I've occasionally tried out the "detect my keyboard" option, and it worked well. it has you press various keys out of a list, and guesses what you have.
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: yes it has that option too Metria, and i type in the letters it asks.  but doen't go to next page. :(
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i went back, and then forward again. and now it worked.  the continue button highlighed.
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gremlins :-)
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: guess so.
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: So you're saying you had to go back and forth a bit before you could finish?
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: take it to curse metria :p
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: yes, pushed the back button, reconfirm my time zone, then pushed continue, and the two 'english(us)' were highlighted, and 'continue' was no longer grayed out.
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: Anyone happen to use Docker (containers)?
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not me
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: What is the trigger pattern you use to recognize a zone repopped?
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GMCP :-)
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I just look for the {repop} tag
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could use a regex of ^{repop} with the tags on
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: thank you :)
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err, ^[{]repop[}] (or could use \{ and \})
T3/r7/2017-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone use Masaki EQualizer? BluMalice's plugin?
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: how do I get data from gmcp in mush?
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: what is the about: screen in firefox that shows which tab is hogging CPU and killing my browser?
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: impy: try about:performance
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, about:about is handy
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for how to access GMCP data in MUSHclient, try http://abelinc.me/gmcp
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inlar Tech: so what is up with the mush client patching these new files?
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I am using Mushclient. If I want to have my own miniwindow, like the communication log, to send stuff to. What is a good plugin to use as a base?
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: basts miniwin plugins.. they have a way to get info from broadcast plugins, and way to handle sheets in window... may be too complex at the start though :)
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: or this: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8815
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: this is a great start - I will read those -- thank you
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: there was this masaki guy who did a few very simple miniwin plugins some time ago. dunno what was his name thoug
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: perhaps basts quest miniwin is simplest
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: of his that is
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: or noexp at that.. both have only one simple function which enough to see how it works.
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: Masaki - BluMalice?
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: which is enough
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: finger blumalice
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: that masaki -roomie
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: hmm..
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: hm. i have an idea that if client output win could have text align option for different mud messages, life would be better
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: in mush, not possible.
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: id have all combat text aligned right.
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: in mush, possible.
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: it is?
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: oh please no
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: no what?
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: combat aligned right
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yes, you can do it.. just make new window that does it above main window.. ofcourse it has delay but with that much processing so what :D
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: oh. optional. dont worry:P
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: pfew
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Umpalumpa giggles.
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: now you made ayasinda mad.. he cant get it since its optional and he cant choose between original and new :)
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the person that is able to make me mad still has to be born
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: scientists have discovered when there are too many options, people buy less.
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: does anyone have a regexp for capturing output from swho?
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I do.
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But depends on what swho output you want.
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: swho 12. I get tripped when someone has both AFK and OPK
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: did you also account for advisor?
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Learn how to check for conditionals.
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: (?:\[OPK\] )? -- for example.
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: er, \(OPK\)
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: (\(.*\)*)?
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Aha, the optional?
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Tol, that's capturing. :p
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: (\(.*\)*)?l
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's capturing and singular.
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I really need to turn off the option in mush that keeps stuff in the input box, lol
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: sweet, I will check it out. The OR was easy to do but the optional is what I am missing
T3/r7/2017-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone know of a command to clear the Mushclient communication log?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: in a regex with groups, how does one reference the full match? for example, i am matching a specific line based on criteria but I want to send the entire line to a window
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: particular reason for wanting to clear the log?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone on who knows triggers and regular expressions?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan points excitedly at The Jerk Fiendish!
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I set up my trigger with a regular expression and named groups; however, I wonder if I can just reference the entire line
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: Wildcard %0 is a special case which represents the entire matching text.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: OMG that is brilliant. Thanks, Tolman. How about the commmand to clear the communication log, in Mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I think Fiendish asked why because it seems like a really bizarre thing to do.. like doesn't seem like it's a good idea..
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Because I stole the code to make use of the window for a different use case
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm honestly not really sure.. did you check inside the plugin for anything that looks like it might clear the screen? like a utility function..?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: not really but it's the last piece of the puzzle
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: there is a WindowShow function...
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: and WindowRectOp
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: those two don't look super promising for clearing ;)
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: is it aard_channels_fiendish we are talking about? If you set lines = {} and call writeLines() that should empty the window. Haven't tested it though
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: tech not sure how to do it from a script, but if you reinstall the chat window plugin, it clears the window.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, that sounds more promising
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: otherwise I would figure out how the plugin stores the chat data and set that to empty
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: exactly the fiendish channel
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: probably stores it as a table
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuli Tech: I'm using Sharptracker v3.6 by Opochtli and I have recently gone OPK. However, now I get an error because, I suppose, of the 80+8+8 experience format. Has anyone fixed this and will they be willing to share?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i have fixed it, and its at hadar.nina/plugins
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: hadar.ninja/plugins
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: help if i typed my own domain name right lol
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: in MUSHclient trigger, does the %0 ever store colors?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sorry I left for a bit. was there a question for me?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Comfy Anaristos Tech: Zhalut had an interesting question.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: about colors?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the answer is no
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for color information you need to get the styles table
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in a regular non-plugin trigger you have to send to "script (after omit)"
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and then you get access to a global variable called TriggerStyleRuns
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or you can call a function and that function has a styles argument
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the fourth argument of a script function invoked by trigger is automatically populated by the style runs for the line
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (only in Lua)
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Comfy Anaristos Tech: thanks, Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: what is the longest a player name may be?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: help name
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: TY
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish roars in victory over his fallen enemy.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wire boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Fiendish! I've been waiting for you. In ambush, some might say
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what's up
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: I'm trying to look at the pathfinding for the mapper. Which is tough because the only limited experience I have is with python. But I'm not seeing that bit in the aard_GCMP_mapper, that looks like it's just for the map GUI
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hahahahahaha
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh man. you definitely don't want to look at the mapper you have to learn about pathfinding
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the mapper does its pathfinding in a really hilarious and convoluted way
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I have a code branch where I went back and rewrote it to be much more reasonable
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: better than the ol' style of each room has a table of each of the other 10000+ rooms with speedwalks to it XD
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't, what? nobody would do that
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: So, I had an idea. Which I know is dangerous.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hold on
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: slow down fireball
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: i'm looking something up for you
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Well it was a old algorythm for video games that it stored all the adjacent rooms and gave em a number then +1'd for each room further and then read that back for pathfinding....In a MUD, extremely heavy
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Gladacus, that sounds like A*
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FirstBlade Gladacus shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sno Queen Defines nods.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: look here for the BFS pathfind for aardwolf: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/new_mapper/MUSHclient/lua/aardmapper.lua#L1603
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: And the other thing was, looking at the .db I see normal exits, but I didn't see where cexits are stored
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: cexits are stored in the exits field
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: exit is just a string
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: type "mapper thisroom" in a room with some cexits and you might see
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it doesn't sound like A*, it sounds like maybe a misunderstanding of the description
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they probably didn't store directions from every room to every other room
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: I was looking at the wrong .db. This is what I get for having multiple installs
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: So, my idea actually incorporated that a bit. You setup each area with each entrance and each exit, skipping bigmap areas since that would be stupid. Then you can precompute optimal routes backwards from each entrance to each room and store that in the room as well as the 'distance'. That should only be five or six values for most rooms. Then you can pathfind just using 'entrance' to 'exit' with the saved distance for inter-area travel
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Unless it's within the same area, where you can use traditional pathfinding
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: But it would allow things like marking the entrance/exits of mazes
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you want to precompute the shortest path from each area room to the continent and store that in the room?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Not quite
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: he wants to precompute interarea speedwalks.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: So each room in an area would have the path stored from each entrance of the area to that room
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: so from the first room, to all other area rooms. Or that was my understanding.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: static pathfinding instead of dynamic
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: it's rather pointlessly naive...
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FirstBlade Gladacus nods.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: No advantage over what we already have
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: The mapper we have will fail to navigate anytime it can't completely complete a route
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so will yours
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: how do you plan to precompute paths that can't be completed?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: the amount of time to calculate the path is already trivial compared to player experience, it's almost instantaneous, so why cache the result?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: but why assume your algorithm wouldn't have the same limitations? wouldn't it be better to simply fix the algorithm?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: That could be better Ayon
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I mean, look, I'm all in favor of caching in general. But I don't think it will solve the problem you're talking about
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: the algorithm works in most general cases, so maybe find the edge cases and add logic to handle those specific situations.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: The idea is that you mark 'ghost' exits, that will complete through the path, but not be entered into the path that's sent to the mud
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: well, those will still be edge cases...
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: Should sprinkle magic pixie dust on everything.  Then hit it with an axe to release the schmoo.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: all bow before the Schmoo!
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: I suppose there's no real need to cache to achieve that
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FirstBlade Gladacus goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what's a ghost exit?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: So the mapper with pathfind using the exit as if it existed, but when it 'finds' a route that goes through it, it won't enter anything following that room and will just drop you at the start of the maze
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: main small things I can picture that would be fun is a trigger that loops to make sure the room you're running to next is the one you're actualy in...Dont ya love those rooms that randomly tp you back into the room you just came from and break a speedwalk in a easy area
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: basicaly Grush wants to go to where the mapper speedwalk breaks?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: but mazes are specifically created to interfere with what you are attempting?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: You want to get to the edge of a maze and then stop by making imaginary links between two sides of the maze?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Nah, he wants it to automaticaly take you to the maze instead of error at the start of the area because of said maze?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FirstBlade Gladacus grins evilly.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: ahh...well...could work, but then, why not just modify the routine to return the path instead of tossing it away, kind of like: Here's the best I could do.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: How do you mean Ayon?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Like instead of sending the result directly to the mud, make it print to screen?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no path through mazes
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I imagine the algorithm trims paths when they don't work out,so instead of "popping" those paths, you "push" them onto a secondary array, and if the pathfinding fails, call another function that evaluates the failed paths and returns the best one.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I tell you what, grushnak
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: but don't automate mazes...that's not allowed.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Ayon, I'm not trying to automate navigating the maze. I'm trying to automate getting *to* the maze
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you fork my repo on github and add that idea to the new_mapper branch (it'll be easier for you that way)
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and then send me a pull request or ask me for comments
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: that's a good idea...fork and if it works out, maybe it'll get merged...
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: offhand I'm not opposed to this idea
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no automation, though
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: what is the repo addy Fiendish?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: manually mark possible maze connections
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Sounds good :) But don't hold your breath :P I don't know lua, SQL, and I haven't used github. So this is a foray into the grand unknown
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: learn two things new every lifetime
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've only glaned at the topic and have to leave for work, but what I do to accomplish what you're talking about is to make a cexit from the start of a maze to the rooms beyond the maze
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the cexit is a "no-op", doesn't do anything but echo to go through the maze from here
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: youd have to make the cexit abort running though
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Abelinc, the problem there is that the mapper will continue to send the rest of the directions
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: otherwise you pinball
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it won't
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: You could do it with a 'sit' command, but that seems like cheating :P
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because I go to ALL rooms on the other side, not just the exit room
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: At that point you might as well cache the directions :P
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: in the above case you can create a timer that quieries the GCMP plugin and waits till you've arrived in the target room to continue the walk...
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If you do it that way - the fast path might be to run back to the start of the maze, even though you are aalready past it.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that sounds like it would work, but it's pretty labor intensive
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's more overhead to cache and retrieve than to simply have that be another mapper lookup
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: menda: not true, because exits are all 1-way
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose the easiest way to do this would be to add a special kind of cexit that removes any part of the run after it
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, having a mechanism for me to manually add cexits without the mapper needing to traverse them makes it easier for me
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Hunh? Like I said, I'm not really familiar with SQL, but why would storing and retrieving a cexit be less intensive than storing and retrieving the same information from the room?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because you have to know where to retrieve from
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not changing the SQL for this. there's no reason to
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I can't imagine why the SQL Schema would need to change at all...?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Not sure how one way helps.  If it thinks it's one room from the start of the maze to one of the rooms past it, it my end up going back to the start of the maze in order to get to the path again.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you make a cexit between two rooms with the direction of, for instance, "{maze}", you could just have the last step of finding the path right before sending the run be to look for "{maze}" and remove anything from the run after it
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: it's better, and cheaper for this sophistication it exist only in code...
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the pathfinding will never loop
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I thought maze exits were listed as -1 or something? I don't recall...maybe there's no indb marker for a maze room?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: menda: because it doesn't have a path to the start of the maze
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if it would loop on the maze it would loop everywhere
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Ayon: rooms before and after aren't though
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the only thing you risk here is getting a suboptimal path near mazes
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: like maybe there's another way in without going through the maze that is longer on paper but shorter in practice beause of the size of the maze (I guess this is pretty unlikely though)
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: I have to spend some time to really understand exactly what's happening now, whether the mapper just goes with the first result or will search for optimal, but that should be pretty easy to just discard a path with a maze exit if it finds any other path
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, but while it may be fewer rooms, it's not likely more optimal because it's not moving a room every 8th of a second
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper does shortest path first
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if cutting across the maze is only 1 cexit then it will look like the shortest path
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: but at a certain point, you know you've hit a maze, so it should be possible to query the db for all maze rooms, find the one with the exit into the maze and set that rooms id as the new path target etc...
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and I'm not adding a priority queue for artificial edge lengths just to satisfy this
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: That was my point Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: it still all seems a bit of an effort for edge cases, like mazes that you can easily handle by hand...
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the mapper does BFS. on aardwolf the path you find first is literally always optimal
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I remember when we had to discover our own speedwalks by hand...
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in practice most of us never found our own speedwalks
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: inter area we did, but true, many people would share the sws to an area.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: It can't be that complicated. I would rather the mapper takes me directly to the room than dumps me at the start of a maze, no matter what the distance difference is. I'm lazy. So there's no priority queue, just discard paths that contain maze cexits if it finds a path that doesn't
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: when you find yourself saying: "It can't be that complicated..." you're in for a surprise...
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no, no, I agree. I'm also not worried about always returning optimal paths
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (it's not that complicated)
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: literally all you need to do is at the very end look for {maze} in the runto and trim after it
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mendaloth: with my method, the path through the maze from start to finish was shorter, but the path from finish to start is still undefined, so it doesn't ever take that path...note that mine is a totally different and unrelated mapper using a different algorithm
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Abelinc: i'm only talking about the case where there are two possible ways to get to a room and one of them is through a maze
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure that such a thing even exists in aardwolf though
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: that made me chuckle.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: typically people don't put mazes you can just walk around
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so while this method could potentialy return a suboptimal path, it's rather unlikely to
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, I await your pull request grushnak. please follow my implementation suggestion
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and do work on the new_mapper branch
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: When I get there, I'll try to do as you've suggested :)
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Abelinc: I don't think it would matter even if you did define paths back. The mapper won't backtrack.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: Just to make sure I understand the process properly. I fork the new_mapper, make changes to it, commit those changes to my git, and then make a pull request on the original new_mapper to request to merge the changes?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you fork my entire repository, you clone it to your computer, you switch branch to new_mapper, you make your changes and then add/commit/push them. then you make a pull request
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: and thus Fiendish explained git on the 8th day, in 5 steps, better than the consultant my company paid to help the dev team switch did over a week.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FirstBlade Gladacus laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: pay me. i'll fly over and consult and then help you with aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: I never caught how github works
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: was Abelinc the consultant your company paid for?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it took me a while to stop really hating git. now I only hate it during the late hours when I think about how bazaar was actually made for humans.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: So what happens if you push changes to the repository before I complete my changes?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you make more changes and then push those
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: The universe doesn't end? That can't be right.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't care 
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: git doesn't track your pushes anyway, it tracks your commits
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: behold the magic of git :)
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but anyway, if I need to i'll just rewrite your history
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grushnak gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: But that's who I *am*!
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FirstBlade Gladacus falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bye
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grushnak waves happily.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I have a regular expression to capture player information from swho. I would like to ensure I capture every player flag but I need to list them in order inside the regex. I *think* I have the order but idk where 'Helper' goes: linkdead,afk,wanted,traitor,advisor,opk <-- ideas?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: setwanted a Helper and ask them to go afk/lindead? :P
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: a helper is an advisor on steroids
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: pfft dogooders ;)
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm, that reminds me, I've gotta add OPK and maybe hardcore to my regexp
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Hardcore players don't last long enough to make it worth it :P
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: oh snap I need hardcore!! If I assume one cannot be both advisor/helper, then I can put them next to eachother in regexp. I do want to add hardcore though or those players won't show on my swho
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Abelinc, do you have a regexp for swho too? We can compare?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one cannot be both advisor/helper, nor can you be both opk/hardcore
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well Hardcore/OPK trade off too (can't have both) so I'm guessing they're interchangeably placed...
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I would guess hardcore shows up somewhere near wanted, in the beginning?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: in case you are curious, here is what I have thus far.. ^\[(?P<x1>.*?)\] \[\s+(?P<stats>\d+)\s.?\] ?(?P<ldead>\(Linkdead\))? ?(?P<afk>\*AFK\*)? ?(?P<wanted>\(WANTED\))? ?(?P<traitor>\(TRAITOR\))? ?(?P<helper>\[Helper\])? ?(?P<advisor>\[Advisor\])? ?(?P<opk>\(OPK\))? (?P<player>[A-Za-z]+)?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: you're doing it wrong
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I didn't trig for swho...I actually had the flags for my old version of my friend greeting script when I used "who friend"...but I subsequently changed to using friend online which doesn't show those, and I had expressly not included linkdead, afk, note in my allowed flags because they wouldn't have seen the greeting
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so the last version of mine that I had was /set friend_flags=^[[]([^]]+)[]] ([(]Wanted[)] )?([(]TRAITOR[)] )?([(]Laser[)] )?([[]Helper[]] )?([[]Advisor[]] )?([(]RAIDER[)] )?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: grab the entire line, and use find for tags...it's easier and clearer to do in code.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if you go that far detecting.. why not detect if they are in clan, quest and campaign also?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, and whether that clan is a pk one or not
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and how many active members are in their clan (from clist)
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Nuanse, good point. I am only going to display a tiny bit of this info. I am shrinking the info in SWHO and putting it into a window
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if you do swho 12, you should also know how many pups they have done / stat and how many hours /have /pup AND level
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and the ratio of current QP to total QP to total Levels gained
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: divided by the probability that they like you
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: with amount of mobs they have killed /level/pup
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: which you can get from swho 6
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and how many times they've campaign failed
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: swho 13 is very important information. you should divide that by pups also.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: basically you could generate skynet...
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ^
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: that is a plan! I hate humanity!
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: which should be your ultimate goal
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: misanthropy isn't a crime, it's a way of life.
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Abelinc, when you came up with your pattern, was there a help file to list those flags in order or did you base it on what you saw from the who?
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if flag is not in who list, it's not really in game :)
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I don't see (RAIDER) in the who list :/
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: raiding is not really in game
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just ask any pk clanner :)
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: the string find sounds the most promising,  it's just a little hard to find the player name
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I went by what I'd seen in my logs for people with multiple flags
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is there something specific that you're trying to capture with this? If you just want lists of players, some of the swho outputs don't show info that others do, so hiding pretitles, titles, etc. is easy without toggling those settings
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if you ignore prenames, wouldnt it be just simple thing to just get any \(*\) and \[*\] and ignore them and get the name? 
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I do run something on who/swho lists which puts before the level part their clanally stance with is
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: us*
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so I have color-coded Ally, ENEMY, CHAoS, NoPK, !clan, and IMMly at the start of each line
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: hmm.. you have withhold some info from your site ;) shame on you!
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: that's more or less what I am working on :)
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Ableinc, should your ([(]Wanted[)] )? be WANTED/
T3/r7/2017-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at the time I was using that code, it was Wanted...now it doesn't matter for me because I use a command that doesn't show the flags anyway
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: so what is the hunt trick bug with S&D?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: i believe it hasn't been updated for all the newer messages
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: or some versions hadn't been
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so Aard keeps dropping my connection and then allows me to immediately reconnect, internet doesn't seem to be intermittently out though.. any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: does someone on your connection have torrents or somethign similar running?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yeah! blame the torrents! :P
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it's a shared connection, so I have no idea
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: large wi-fi network
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: supposedly* it's limited bandwidth per user
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but I wouldn't be surprised that that isn't working at all
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: auto-reconnect fails every time to as first attempt gives Unable to connect to "Aardwolf", code = 10051 (Network is unreachable)
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but by the time I attempt a manual reconnect is works fine
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: the torrents, as i have discovered screw up the routing table eventualyl because there are so many connections. doesn't matter for normal browsing but for mud it loses the conenction
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ahhh, that makes sense
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: could be the same underlying issue even without torrents since there's probably tons of devices connected to the network
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: device number 51 gets booted off, reconnects and boots off the new 51
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: uptime is the time to get back to 51
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if it limits usage, it definately limits torrents... 
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well it doesn't limit device count
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it limits amount of bandwidth per connection
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but if it's a bunch of separate ones, they all get that much bandwidth
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: and if it does that, it would be just stupid not to limit torrent connections
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well stupid is a word I find myself regularly in regards to the whole operation
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but perhaps I'm stupid for not just buying my own internet
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: nope, leeching off a free internet is a thing!
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: well mine problem is an older cheap router, so maybe modern ones handle things better but mine is definetly a rotuing table issue
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: this one looks and feels pretty old as well..
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Well I use my mobile phone with 3+ torrets running and aard without any lag at all
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Just get the, as expected with mobile phones, signal dips
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: whoa.. answer whoa..
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: The hosting account for www.lightclan.org expired.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ya
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i am working with an alias that is set to send to script. one of the lines is "Send("swho 9 area")". I have the alias set to omit from output/logs but it still shows the send command in the main output window. Any idea how to fix this?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: either change send to script or change sent text to swtho 9 area (if set to sent to world)
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: swtho 9 area : Sorry %1, I don't understand you.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: err, I've read again your question, - use SendNoEcho instead of Send
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: Nuanse: type alias swtho swho
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse smirks.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: there are no errors that cannot be fixed :P
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: anyone know why my map blinks every time I move?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: you mean aard gmcp map?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: my map window the one with boxes
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: everytime I move I get it all grey and instantly it appears again
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: are you using slow PC? failing HDD?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: no not really
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: check CPU usage, maybe other process does something in backgroud
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: ok let me check that
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: flickering usually occurs when your PC is too slow to redraw mini win fast enough
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: I had my laptop on sleep mode overnight so thats why
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: that can be caused by overall slow system, or intense CPU usage by other apps, or failing hardware
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: when will mush go touch-compatible?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think it is already
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it you click on mapper you can get to pointed room, if you use plugin with mob list you can just kill them by pointing that mob, if you use S&D you can go to q mob room just with a click
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: theres nothing inherently incompatible with touch about it
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne smirks.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that will work if touch works like mouse 
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: ok. didnt know that:)}
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: All you need to do is create buttons to do what you want, and you're set.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: that.. is awesome!
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: as long as the touch device is a pointer device it'll be fine
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: finger smudges all over your screen is awesome? how
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: now. i wonder if there are any wireless touchy monitors out there
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: wear gloves
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you've got finger smudges all over your screen, you've been doing it wrong.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: wash your nasty hands
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't wear gloves, and I don't got smudges all over my screen, you greasy person.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Sno Queen Defines.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: can you change the value of a variable as part of an alias in mush ?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: yes but it requires script
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: and magic pixie dust
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: what is your variable for? .. Zengo
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i have an alias which changes my eq, i have a variable for which portal i am using, i want to change the value of that variable when i execute the alias
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: SetVariable /GetVariable
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: Just select sendto script in the alias dropdown. Then you write SetVariable ("variablename", "value")
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: thank you Tolman
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: I use this for my attack spell... SetVariable ("attack_spell", "%1") ColourNote ("red", "blue", "Attack Spell set to : %1")
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: with send to script
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: you know about wildcards right?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: yes i do
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo points excitedly at a wild card!
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I know they work well in poker
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ooOOoo baby you're Wild!
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: have you tried BlueMalices eq manager? it is a mini window eq manager with ann auto-equip feature
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: finger bluemalice for the URL
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: masaki equalizer rocks .. bluemalice is my hero
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: no, because i already have a whole bunch of stuff setup for myself, so I don't want to change
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: it handles tier adjustment too
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: and i won't need tier adjustment anymore
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: is that spelling correct?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: then you should just level naked like a real man.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: one click with the plugin and your set is recorded
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: no its BLUMALICE
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: no e on blu
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: then iot auto equips with tier adjustmennt at right level
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: and i don't necessarily want to autoequip either
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: ok :p
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: can turn it off but meh
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: btw, the alias doesn't work anymore now
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: it was send to world before
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: did you set your variable in place of attack_spell?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: if it has sdcript it needs send to: scriopt
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: errk
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: but it has direct action... nm i will look into it
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: To send commands to the mud in a script you have to write Send ("mudcommand")
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: not if it's an alias Tolman
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: erm
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: as I understand he just wants to channge a variable with an alias
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I am having trouble separating [Q] and [C] flags from clan name in an expression. I get confused because clan names have so much variation. Any ideas? Zhalut |=~ Clan name {|[Q][C]
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: use the regex converter in the alias/trigger window :)
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: so it looks like the link for BluMalices eq plugin is broken
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I can send you my version
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: has a small fix added as well
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: cool
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: still kinda beta testing the fix but looks good
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: so blowtorch just loses settings or, damnit i didnt save them
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: spent hours getting it set up
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: hi
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: anyone there?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: having issues with the MUSH client...
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Go on!
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: when I type "L" to look, it does nothing. No description of the room
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: also, the main chat box is just spamming "scan" over and over
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Is this fresh install?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: yes, but I added the Bast plugins
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: maybe I should reinstal and leave the bast stuff out?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Never seen that.  But try just fresh install, add Basts a few at a time.  See if pops up.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Could also type echocommands then see if L is sending anything to mud?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: looks a lot better
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: with no bast plugins
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: so the bast plugins have to go into the world>plugins folder?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can put plugins wherever you want. When you go to enable it with the plugin file dialog, browse to wherever you put it.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: what bast plugins would you recommend?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: okay, so Zmud was nice because I could press "n" for north, and then instead of having to keep typing n, it would just keep it in the text box so I just had to click enter over and over
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: anyway to do that with MUSH?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sure.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: just walk with your number pad <3
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: OoOoo
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: THATS pretty cool
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: alt-0 and auto repeat command on right side of the window
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Alt-0, enable Auto-repeat, I *think*
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You could walk with numpad in zMUD too, by the way. :p
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: thats alt ZERO not O
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And had to look up the place for the option, heh.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: I use 5 on numpad for my single attack macro and - sign on numpad for area attack
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: this link has lots of info https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: go to configuration on mush >input>commands and click the autorepeat command thingy
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: so can walk around and smack stuff around the same area with just that hand :)
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Eventually, I'm going to set up my controller again. I know I'm not the only one with a controller mapped to attacks and movement.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: used to do that when I would aard on the treadmill
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: someone should map it to one of those old nintendo stomp pads
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: thought about something like that once too :P https://www.amazon.com/Stinky-Gaming-Footboard-Foot-Controller
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Go advanced, set up speech recognition for other things, too, and then you can do things like, say 'cast door troll' and then go about, or say 'open east' etc.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Can you rig it so eating Doritos and swigging Mountain Dew does something?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: can really nerd out with controllers
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Wars: That'd be a pretty nice workout.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: it allready does Metria.. look down at your gut :P
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Play Aard à la Parappa the Rappa -> Stomp, kick, it's all in the mind!
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: hehe arcid
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I wouldn't touch Doritos if my life depended on it. (Same with Mountain Dew). Now.. eclairs are another matter.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: http://imgur.com/a/L0MYM any idea how to get rid of all these old emails/usernames/etc, i'm using chrome. i went into advance settings and clearned out all saved stuff, but these are still popping up 
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Use the down arrow to highlight the one you want to remove, press Delete.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You also cleared out saved form information?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: doesn't appear to be doing anything
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: try hovering over one with mouse and press delete
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: saved forms or saved passwords? hrm looks like saved passwords is going to do the trick
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: oh wait, no i dleeted all of the one from one email....and it's still showing up 
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: if i mouse hover and press delete...it just deletes in from the fill in part, not the drop down menu
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: it's shift-delete.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not delete.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: so highlight it and shift-delete
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: still not working =( 
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: if you want to clear them all, think it's autofill form data that you'll want to delete
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: and probably need to change time to go to beginning of time, too
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: oh man....okay i need to do a password change anyways, guess its a good time to clear it out and start oover, let me try that 
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: how do i get mushclient to recognize .8n as nnnnnnnnn
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox pokes [Outlaw] Mendaloth in the ribs.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Send 'run 8n'?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: ya i could type that every time i guess
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Or do you mean literally the string "nnnnnnnn"?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: i wanted it to recognize speedwalks with the .
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: could make client-side alias for .(whatever) to 'run (whatever)'
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: hmmm, ok ill try that
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: had to reset passwords, data form wasn't enough - thank you 
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox rubs his nose softly against Shaelynne's.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: glad ya got it, looked annoying
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: it was =( 
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: now, anyone know about this really annoying mac seirra + copy/paste = crash issue? 
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Set the alias pattern to .*  and use run %1 as the alias body
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: so it would be 'alias . run'?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: No, not a server-side alias. Do it in mushclient.  Alt-9, click Add.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Er, not alt-9
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Control-shift-9
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: control-shift-9
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: yay!!! it works!!!
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Luara hugs Birdbrain Metria.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: so I can use the MUSH client to run back to a room I've been previously?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: how does that work?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: assuming you know the unique id
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: type mapper help
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: also there are very fine tutorials online about its use, and cexits
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: cexits are nice little things that will open doors or other commands when your running to places
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: ooo, interesting
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Get used to using "mapper find [something]", "mapper area [something]", and "mapper goto [room ID]".  Those are awesome :) 
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: 8)
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I did 5 remorts before I learned about the mapper.  Don't be me :P
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: there's even people that started to play BEFORE the mapper even existed. How was that even conceivable
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: We learned to type uphill both ways back then
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: so every spell that is cast or wears off gives some number, for instance: Your mental barrier breaks down. (affoff)126
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: any way to disale that?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Tags spellups, I *think*
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: 8)
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: Metria you are quite tech savvy!!
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Nope, just been around longer than dirt
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: how about item tags? is there a way to disable those when I loot an item?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Which tag is it?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: {invitem}1778190692,I,A red roman cape,28,7,0,-1,-1
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I do wish that inv was in GMCP...
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: tags inv, probably
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Luara D :D :D
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: if inventory was gcmp we could have super duper awesome inventory management right?  and not spam management?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: GMCP uses the power of secret pixies and unicorn horns to do magic.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I thought it piggy backed on the same  microwaves that the government uses to send subliminal messages?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: generated by the HAARP program for sure.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: hmm...still getting this item tag when i loot stuff, invitem}1778013059,,a quiver of steel arrows,38,7,0,-1,-1
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: it's like 2-3 lines long
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Type 'tags' and look for ones that say YES that might be the culprit
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: whats that mapper command again?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: which one?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: mapper help will help you
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: to find areas and such
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: ahhh ok
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: mapper help searching, in particular
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: if your looking for area lists you can use the area command with arguments for start/end lvl e.g area 11 21
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: how do I put the info from statmon plugin from bast on the gtalk channel?
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: statmn repchan gt?  Not sure, but will have option if you type statmn or statmn help I think.
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: statmn set will show you the settings, then statmn set setting value
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, you can use http://abelinc.me/bastdocs to get info on all of Bast's stuff
T3/r7/2017-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bombora Tech: a quick one... any mush users have a miniwindow that shows stats. hp/qp, etc?  If so what is the plugin called?  Mine has decided to die and wont come back even with reinstalation
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: aardwolf_statmon ?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bombora Tech: can you point me towards a download site if you have one?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: that is the build in stat monitor. if all else fails make a backup of the whole of mush, find it's status file and delete it
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bombora Tech: ok thnx
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: or you can finger bast for a whole lot of pligins or finger hadar for the sharptracker
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: but before you do anything make sure you do a proper backup with mush not running
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bombora Tech: sure
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: how advanced is the coding in S&D?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: it's jsut clever coding nothing to complicated
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: if you open the xml file in a text editor you can even read it
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: why do people say that it can't be proven if someone is botting cp's with a modded S&D?  The actions it performs are repetitive and often at odds with what a manual player or even at-keys player would do.  What is the issue in proving a case?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: at-keys S&D user, rather
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: If somebody were automating all of it, I would think it would be pretty obvious
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: well, whatever.  It's just that when it was first released, people said "it *would* be illegal but isn't because imms can't prove automation" but looking at what it does that's patently ridiculous.  A full-auto version should be embarrassingly obvious and there is no way to hide it, you'd have to be tripping on acid to think you wouldn't be caught.  Just curious why that myth took hold. *shrug*
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: because a good coder would make sure it made human mistakes
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: S&D it's just one or two steps away from being a bot, depends on how good the coder is to make sure those steps can't be proved
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Good coders are good at writing code, not modelling human behavior
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I'm honestly surprised mathematical / statistical methods aren't used in bot catching, if that ever happened a few people would have a really bad time.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: how do I delete a cexit from mapper?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: read mapper help
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: u can right click on the room in the minimap
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: and edit exits
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bhengis Tech: mapper help exits
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: how do you tell mapper to run to the nearest room that is not noport?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: if you've marked the rooms as noportal it will mot try to portal and run to a noportal room if you give it a destination
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: and with that, you can create dummy portal that doesnt actually work, but using mapper goto and that portal takes you to nearest non-noportal room :)
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: hmmmm
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: so I did mapper portal enter 'academy portal' at that portal's destination, what does that do? :p
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it made you a portal :)
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: the mapper know can use that as a short cut to get back to recall
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: oh, as opposed to running back and forth across the continent
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you could do the same with the garbage bin
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you can also put an alias in the portal command
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: so you could have an alias, that given the id of a portal, will get it from your bag, hold it, enter it, remove it and put it away
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: Any Aard mushclient plugin gurus here?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: no!
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: Okies
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: or you could just ask your question and see if anyone has knowledge about it.. even without being a guru
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: often the gurus will come and do a tech -h and see if they can help you out
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: Basically I'd like to get one of the mushClient windows to display my characters 'skills combat'.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: But in a way that removes most of the blank spacing, so it fits a narrow/tall window
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: when I use the plugin wizard to convert a trigger to a script..named groups go from (?P<namegroup>) to (?P&lt;namegroup&gt;). Any idea why?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: lt; and gt; are < lower than, > greater than - xml specific
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Any Powershell users on today?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: -12
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: -12
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: h
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: plus 24
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: shoot, sorry. lol. it is 4am
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: it's ok we are at zero again!
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: It is always Ayla's time here
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: how can i make the command in the send dialog not appear in my output in a trigger (mush)?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: use the omit from output check box, rtight side of making trigger
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: that gags the triggered line i thought, i still want to see the triggered line
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or do you mean removing local echo?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea the command, i dont want to see the commands in output
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: but just for that trigger
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So turn off local echo in output.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sendraw, maybe, I forget.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: im sure theres a variation of Send() ill find it
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Knew it at one point but sadly cant help
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: SendNoEcho()
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FirstBlade Gladacus tosses Arcidayne up in the air, he loves it!
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: better than the option i found from 2009 on gammon forum, thanks arci
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I sometimes SendNoEcho("echo xx") it's fun!
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: now i just need gags for the donate messages
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: can SnD be used for questor mobs?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: In a way, yes
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trivial Rhuli Tech: Anyone good with MUSHclient scripting that can make a moderately complex script for me?  basically needs to perform a where command, make an array of player names who doesn't show up twice in the list.  then, loop through the array and perform a command.  Will reward a TP for the effort.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a name would show up twice?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you get me the lines, sure.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Doesn't seem that complex, the way you describe it.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trivial Rhuli Tech: The command is where <item>, it is possible for a player to have two of the items.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: For the valentines items?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trivial Rhuli Tech: Well I'll give it a crack if nobody is willing.  
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trivial Rhuli Tech: No, it's for something completely different.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Like I said, send it my way and I'll set it up. I just need the trigger lines.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trivial Rhuli Tech: Great, I'll send you a personal note.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Sounds like easiest approach would be create a table for all that show up once and then altar those that come up 2nd time and read that back.....
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: nah just create a table with names as key
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FirstBlade Gladacus nods at [Outlaw] Mendaloth.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: no need to worry about dupes that way,
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Well think the idea is to filter the dupes into a list?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: or other way around but to find the one ,you need the othe
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Still relatively simple to do.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: how do i make search N destroy open doors?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: set the doors as cexits on your mapper
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you get your mapper to...use mapper help exits
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You don't. You make the mapper open doors with mapper cexit.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: you can also set them to go through portals ect
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: so do I teach it? for instance i run somewhere and the speedwalk cancels because of closed door, do I then type mapper cexit open door?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: try mapper help exits
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: mapper cexit open <dir>;;<dir>
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: full mapper tutorial here : https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=12930
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: yea after you set the cexit it will use it automatically
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you ake a custom exit between room 1 and room 2 of "open east ; east"
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: but once I "teach" it, will it be remembered?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: 8)
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what the mapper does
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: okay nice!!!
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: mapper can hadle portals too
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: I advise reading the tutorial in the link I posted
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: going through it now 8)
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, http://abelinc.me/mapper and http://abelinc.me/hosch
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: it was made with mapper newbies in mind from one with a capacity for teaching...
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which are aard-specific mapper tutorials by the guy that does the mapper and hoch
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err hosch
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: so is it possible to download someone else's mapper file?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: with areas/doors completed already?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: it's best to make your own because your portals will be different and area navigation can change based on which goals you have completed
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: of course, not sure if that's allowed...but it's just a sql db file...
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I am having a hard time (in regex) separating the clan name from instances where there is a [C]or[C] at the end. Any ideas? https://regex101.com/r/8GtRqe/1
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: ahh, just curious
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: add \[?CC?\]? to the end of your regex
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: dont put it inside the ()
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yep that changed nothing, youre using .* in your backreference you should switch it to a character list
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: character list like, .+, ? clan names have some funky characters
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: @kobus, one workaround has been to list every clan in the regexp but all that work makes me feel like there is a simpler solution
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: well this thing kicks BUTT
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: can't imagine when I've mapped the whole game xD
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: what are you trying to do with it?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: run to my campaign mobs 8)
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: looooove it
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: heres my regex for clan names: ([][a-zA-Z<>()|:.* -]+)
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: oh wont match druid.. sec
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ([][a-zA-Z<>()\/\|:.* -]+)
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ([A-Za-z]+) +([][a-zA-Z<>()\/\|:.* -]+)(\[\C\]) <-- will put name in backref 1, and clan in backref 2, you dont have to use backref 3 which is the player is on a campaign
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: is it necessary to add closing an exit? eg mapper cexit open w;w;close e
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no but you should open the door both ways
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: oOOo
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: damnit that wont match boot lol
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: good idea to close doors and lock lockable doors with mapper for when it comes to gq's
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: mmmm that IS a good idea...
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that might be true, I dont do gq
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Norton Tech: its been a long time, can anybody refresh my memory on how to prevent all my input firing in mishclient.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't type anything?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Norton Tech: twat
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: sheep
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: your statement is nonsensical
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Norton Tech: i can't remember a keypress to disable triggers.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: One, watch your language. Two, no personal attacks. Three, make sense with your question if you want any other answer than that.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: norton's a taffy, it's amazing he formed a statement to begin with
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: so please, no personal attacks
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Driven flicks his whip across Pleiades's bare back. 
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driven Tech: You shut your mouth good sir.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: nou
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driven Tech: pls, no personal attax
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driven Tech: nou
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I redirect your personal attacks to /dev/null
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: this is the most amusing+confusing conversation i've seen in aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driven Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades glares at Driven.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driven Tech: it's a love hate relationship. Mostly hate though.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Driven turns to Pleiades and shrieks loudly!
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: zMUD had a command to disable triggers. MUSH does not up front, as far as I know. Shift+Ctrl+8, then tick Enable Triggers.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Now kindly remove your dirty mouth from this world.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driven Tech: - 30
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Norton Tech: 3. my question was good. 2. yes. was aimed at you. 1. i did
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne smiles happily.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Kindly kill yourself. Kkthxbai.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Driven rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driven Tech: Killing myself.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Norton Tech: so, i've been away a while, in mushclient, there's a quick keypress that allows input triggers to be disabled. can anybody remind me what it is ?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Already answered that for you.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't think it exists. :)
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It was for zMUD and CMUD, though.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I will show you, norton
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: follow me
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Could try Shift+Ctrl+K, though, I think that might be what you're looking for.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: thats funny one
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or might be Shift+Ctrl+C.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Norton Tech: tech i asked a serious question.. you act like a dick.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Dude, your first question didn't make sense. So I answered it with what was the most logical answer to your question. "How do I get my input from firing?" Input is you typing. STOP TYPING.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So before you start running your mouth and personally attacking people, you should step back and stop looking like an ass yourself.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driven Tech: But the question is, will it blend?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I like to look at his ass though
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Driven points excitedly at Pleiades's crotch!
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: like a puffy cloud
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Driven Tech: Hairy puffy cloud*
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Because really, I'm one of the ones that generally do help, when the question is clear and I'm not insulted, thank you very much.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Norton Tech: i'll tell you 1 thing right now.....   stop typing "your words"  ain't any help
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: I don't see it in the pageprompt help. How can I modify it so it only prompts me once instead of 20 times per minute?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, when you ask how to stop your input from firing, that is the only help that exists. However, if you're looking to stop your trigger from firing, the only way I know is with Shift+Ctrl+8, and unticking the Enable Triggers Box. You can also set up a macro if it's just a group of triggers you want to turn off, or an alias if you have it set up that way, too.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Qvothe: Pretty sure that's based on how many commands you try to send in that minute.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Scripts send commands, too.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I send commands, too
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: Right I tested again and it seems to update per script input. I still want it to only prompt once, but I guess that's not configurable. How about this: I'd like to be able to input commands immideatly after a page prompt, without having to do a dummy input first. Possible?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not sure, I haven't ever played around with it.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: do most people make an alias to add cexits?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I do
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I do.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Are we married now Arci?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: hmm...wish I was a bit better at making aliases..
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: you get better with practice :)
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: do you make them through MUSH?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: For doors, I simply just do mcn, mce, mcs, mcw, mcu, mcd. then I just type it out for custom exits.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Yes Luara, because cexits are client-side, not server.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Same Arci. I do mxn, mxe
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'm lazy, I just have an oa alias.  It opens all directions.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Others use wildcards like 'mx <command>'
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Actually, I think I just have mc*, and just went from there.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: Doesn't open all misfire in wrong direction sometimes, menda?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: so the top box under the field Alias: is just a name for the alias?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: oo nm
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: why does it tell me invaid command? it looks like it's outputting correctly
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: Alias: mce   Body: Mapper cexit open e;e;close w
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: am I missing somethin?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Send it to execute
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: that did it!
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: TY
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bamboo tosses Luara up in the air, she loves it!
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: look at help spellname and double check youre using correct syntax. generally if casting on self, jusst c spell, dont include your name
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: you need 2;; between directions
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: If you're using the alias window, you don't
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: I've never been able to make any alias for mapper cexit  to work
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Follow Luara's steps! :D
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: they've already said the answer,  send to execute..
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: but IM clueless newb so guess thats expected
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Well we're giving out clues on the channel, so now you're just a newb :D
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: they all work now, it was the send to execute, YAY
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Sweeet
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: that helps...can't wait to try using portals xD
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Oh, for that: 'mapper help portals'
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: yep, definitely looks a bit more complicated..
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Very easy
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: can u give an example?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Sure, one sec
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: ty
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: What portal do you have?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Pick one :D
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: err, none =\
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Oh my
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: but lets say I have to enter a sapphire
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: how do i set it to do that?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: is that just with cexits?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: mapper portal <commands here>
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: mapper portal enter sapphire
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: ohhhh
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I think
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: i see
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wanner Tech: I use cexits for in room portals
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Yeah that's it
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Yes, room portals, use cexits
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: But portals that you possess, use mapper portals
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: how do i get portals? goals?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Goals, from other people, loot 'em
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: well, what if you need to get portal from bag, hold it, then enter, then back to dual your weapon etc?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Defines Tech: you can find a lot on auction
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: mapper portal get portal bag;wear portal;enter;dual weapon
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Defines Tech: soulstealer for that I have an alias that does all of that and takes a portal name as argument, then have variables for each portal to enter the name, and then setup mappet portal <alias> <portal name>
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: But you need to double up on the semi colons
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I'd like a cheeseburger please
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: You mean a sammich
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: that too
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Defines Tech: yes please
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Defines Tech: hamburger sammich with cheese
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Would you like fries with that 
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: okay how about picking a lock before opening and entering...mapper cexit pick w;open w;w;close e?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Heh, I don't do that
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: hmm, ok
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: But technically, that could work
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Also, nice of you to close the door after you :p
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: idk why the guide said to do that
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: just use passdoor.. almost 99% of the doors that are pickable are also pass door too
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: i didnt read into it
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: you can basically add any commands you want it to do.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: some people setup cexits for buying the train tickets in land of legend
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: how do i add a delay? last question, i promise xD
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: mapper cexit_wait <seconds>
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: 'mapper help exits' explains it
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: can I pick the lock, then insert a delay?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: you can also add notes to rooms to remind you of things like what mob holds the key
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: ooo
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: mapper help utils
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I am running into LUA errors about invalid scape sequence on some clan names. For example, I converted (^\Rhabdo/^) into \(\^\\Rhabdo\/\^\) and still get an error , ideas? --> invalid escape sequence near '"(^'
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: this similar error happened on 4 of our 20+ clan names
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: script is this -> elseif zclan == "\(^\\Rhabdo/^\)" then zclan = "rhabdo"
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Is anyone having problems with disconnects with the new server?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: not me
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: not a bit
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's Lua. Not LUA. Not lua. but Lua.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: how about luA? or lUa?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Why are you escaping the string when a string is literal?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You only need to escape in matching patterns, not when you're comparing.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shindo grovels in the dirt before Arcidayne.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: All other clans required the pattern so maybe we should go back a step? The clan name comes in as a variable from a regular expression. Maybe my syntax is off somewhere earlier?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay, is your capturing trigger pattern a (.*) (or something similar) or more direct ([Boot], for example)?
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: very direct. I justed out each clan
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So Rhabdo's capture pattern would be: \(\^\\Rhabdo/\^\)
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But...
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And if you're storing it as a variable zclan, then all you need to do is elseif zclan == "(^\Rhabdo/^)" then zclan = "Rhabdo"
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As a side note, depending on where you're getting the information from, you might find it easier to turn off clantags, since then all you're capturing is the clan name anyway (it becomes [Rhabdo], [Baal], [Loqui], [Light], etc)
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Also...
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Instead of all those if/elseifs...
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: oh you could test if it is an element in an array
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: clan_table = {":::LoquI:::" = "Loqui", "(^\Rhabdo/^)" = "Rhabdo", "[Ba'al]" = "Baal" ...} -- then all you have to do is: clan_table[zclan]
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: smarter, not harder.
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: than you on the array guidance and removing the clan tag is so useful! :)
T3/r7/2017-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: how do i stop f1 from opening help
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: assume we don't know which client you are using
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: mush
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://abelinc.me/aardclientfaq says how
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's one of the global prefs options
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Short answer: File -> Global Preferences -> General Tab -> Tick F1,F6 are Macros.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: thanks. Also, is there any way to disable the splash screen?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not if you mean the actual MUSHclient one...if you mean the note from Fiendish, there's a checkbox at the bottom of that one that says to make it not show again
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Gammon wants to show off his daughter's beautiful artwork.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's pretty normal for every program on the planet to have a splash screen that you can't remove
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those screens are put up before the program is done loading, so not having it show wouldn't get you into the program any quicker
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm finding more and more are providing options to remove it nowadays.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can remove delays if they're artificial, which is different than the splash screen itself
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's really just a placeholder saying, "Hi, I'm working, so don't keep trying to open me."
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Arcidayne.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nah, they have tick boxes saying, "Remove splash screen from startup" and the like.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Arcidayne, is there also an option to turn off seeing the super hero title in the 'who' output?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No, but thankfully, you can easily account for that.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: \[.{15}\] 
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's all you need for that regex.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he wants the actual stats, not to gag it
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's an easy one still, too.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: [\s+?(\d+)\s+([\w-]+)\s([\w\+\d+])\]
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: [\s+?(\d+)\s+([\w-]+)\s+([\w\+\d+])\]
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not teling you the race, pclass and morts of heroes and SHs...
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Forgot that extra spaces. :p
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, that's not in 'who' info anyway.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If he wants that information, he'll have to obtain it elsewhere.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, it is, just not for 200/201...that's ewhy he was wondering if you could turn off the whonames...
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Thought he was asking more for the difficulty he was having with clantags earlier until I told him about clantags.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I cheated on knowing what he meant by reading his ideas post the other day ;-)
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: with clangtags on in who, there are now possible instances of words with brackets. [clan][Q][C]. I can see doing a regex option to pick up the [Q] and [C]. How can I write a pattern to pick up [clan] without picking up [Q][C]?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: allow for picking up [Q] and [C], just don't do anything with them
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: \s?(\[\w+[^C][^Q]\])?\s?(\[Q\])?\s?(\[C\])? <--  like that?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'd just do \[\w{2,10}\]
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can leave the () off the Q and C parts since you're not going to reference them with a %#...can also put a number of chars to the \w, which will ensure that it won't match Q or C
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 3,11
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't count Retribution as a real clan.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tao through retribution
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I was wrong about the (), leave that there, as it's defining what the "?" is optionalizing
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: anyone know how can I make a trigger that plays a sound when double occurs?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: mush?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: ow yes
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: there is a section in the trigger to play sounds
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: in the add trigger screen is a sound button om the lower right
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: yes I know that
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: but how do I have to name the trigger to work for SH double?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: choose the wav file that comes with the mush.. mush is very picky about which wav files it plays..
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: alright
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: i recall someone asked and responded with the string on question channel
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: and you sound like you never made a trigger before.. maybe read the help on it first?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zonta Tech: Hi. I'm pretty new to aw, but just using the aw mush client. Love it. I was wondering... any plugin or way to add hunger/thirst to stats?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zonta Tech: oh, I heard someone talking about making a song sound when they enter game or superhero. Is that done via a trigger?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zonta Tech: is that what he's asking? or something else? Just came on, sorry
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: he wants to play a sound on SH double message but same principle
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: yes zonta.. which the same thing has just been explained..
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: type tech -h 20
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zonta Tech: oooooh. ahhhhhh.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: How does one modify an explored rooms exits in the AardMush window?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: right click, remove exit
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: And add?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: uhmmm, go through it? :)
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: hehe how about the custom ones?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: mapper cexit
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: mapper help exits
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: thx :)
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: be mindful that, by using those commands, you DO go though it :)
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: so don't do that in too high level areas, unless you know the destination
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: indeed, ill keep it in mind
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: (Lua) i am able to set the text color in a script using "@x125" but I would like to house it in a variable to reference it many times. I have been able to store it but only with a blank space zcolor = "@x125 ". Any idea, how do you personally do it?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: anyone getting lag spikes or is it my network?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it's you
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Soulstealer sighs.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atlanta Tech: how do I force mush to disconnect?  I have a sometimes not-great connection.  sometimes it takes mush many minutes to realize its not really connected anymore and therefore let me try to reconnect.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Atlanta hangs head in shame for forgetting the @w tag.  
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hit the Plug button at the top.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And please learn $C for channels, not @w.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: $C defaults to channel color rather than changing it for everyone else like @w does.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atlanta Tech: There it is, thanks!  
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Thanks for that tip about , never knew!
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Example I have no idea what color your channel is. But I know every word in this sentence is your channel color. :D
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: $
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: dang it:P
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne grins evilly.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atlanta Tech: cool, I'll go read about colours, that's a new command to me.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne smiles happily.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: does  work for all client configs? was thinking I wasn't able to get it working before...
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As a side note, $C does not work in tells. :(
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: and in socials?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It does, Yajan.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ooh it took it maybe it does work then =)
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: weee
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne is really mad if $C doesn't work in socials.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It does. :p
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan dances wildly before you!
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: $cwhat is this
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Capital C, not lowercase c.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: I mean, all those perfectly good socials that end with ....why didnt they just do this thing and let it look natural again
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I didn't think we were allowed to use them in socials though?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: @w....meh
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Mendaloth: Probably not in created socials.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gladacus shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: what is this
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: thats What I was asking:P
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Like the feature hasn't been fully implemented....
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, yeah. I wish they'd fix that.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: and also likely because socials arent garenteed to be on a channel?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There is that.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So a social not on a channel would look weird with a random $C in the middle.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Which would mean that the default colour = nil unless you'd force it to be .....
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: to the same extent, if you shelp the social, there's no default colour code......
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: is there any way to make a trigger that auto fails quests for patroxis?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: there's a plugin to help with the maze
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: And there's gaardian's site that the plugin uses
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Why auto fail quests there? It's not difficult.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: if you can't trigger recall to your questor from your target = hard!!
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my mapper knows how to get to questor from partroxis...
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: In fact, the maze is the easiest to get back to questor.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: 'hunt a;buy stone
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: At least in all of the area.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: 'hunt a;buy stone;drop stone'?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Gladacus.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: I used to auto fail death gate maze and d8 really.. but now with the mapper and plugin, I sometimes fail d8 because it takes time to finish..
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so cexit in each of the maze roms to hunt a (I use hunt grax) going to 5763
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Eh, I just modified my qc alias if vnum in this range, then do this. :p
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and cexit in 5763 to b rock, unkeep rock, drop rock
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: unkeep rock?  I never needed to do taht..
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Otherwise, I manually do it if I'm there for leveling purposes... which is rarely ever.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on your shop settings, soulstealer
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have an "/out" function to leave an area
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: oh, there are shop settings now?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there have been for years
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: well, I wasn't here for longer than that apparently
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: there's a command to autokeep anything that you buy from a shop....
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Point is, they've been around since you've been here.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grushnak Tech: It's 'autokeep'
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: well, it's hard to catch up on the little changes.. still struggling with the bigger changes though
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: had that turned on before, but that becomes a hassle with tickets at legend.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's to prevent people from dropping and saccing things they just bought.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Go through 'config all' then.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Forgot this....anyway to build a wait into a cexit? Like when going into the ponds in kobaloi
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Did you read mapper help exits?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's written right there.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne smirks.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixultar Tech: wait(x)
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: yes, see the helpfiles, there is a way to ptu in a wait timer
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Not written there XD
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes, it is.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You just don't know how to read.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Read the blocks of information, not the small commands.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: The one in mapper help exits, is the one the whole Cexit runs in, not the one built inside the cexit, IE a mud command
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Oh
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Whoops
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: anyone got any experience to share with linux+wine+mushclient? I've recently upgraded to wine-2.0. Was having some instability with wine-2.0-staging (that's some super test version), but wine-2.0-devel seems to be working good so far.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixultar Tech: ha, your name gets mentioned there a lot... :)
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixultar Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: I have a techy question...What ports does a MUD use?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: Or what protocol?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: HTTP?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: telnet
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: wow
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: oldschool!
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: port depends on the MUD, Aard uses 23, 4000, or 4010
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: wait, are you saying that the aard mushclient doesn't use ssh for logins?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Luara sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: is telnet even secure?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: if I have port 23 open I mea
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: No.  Telnet uses passwords in the clear.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: there's a high chance I'm wrong
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: using wireshark, you can see the text info going thru mush.  not sure if there's a way to secure it.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: telnet is inherently not secure which is why most applications switched to SSH
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: How do I make my alias work with mapper? I got (mf * = mapper find %1) but I get unknown command, and yet success when typing the exact same manually.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: change Send To to Execute instead of World
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: Execute will run it through your scripts, World will bypass everything and send it to the MUD
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: much appreciated!
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Raded fistbumps Qvothe.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone know how to do a "match this, but not this" sort of thing for a trigger pattern?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: the google example I found seems to not be working as I had expected
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metria Tech: What pattern are you trying to match?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: a wildy inclusive pattern, basically anything that matches [word][a bunch of space][word]
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but I only enable the trigger for a moment
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: problem is sometimes something slips in there during that moment
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I don't really wanna match on that one expression though
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: uhh, can you give us an example of the line you're trying to match?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: actually.. though I still want to know.. might be better all around to match on that, and do a follow-up action instead
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: the simurgh                    In the Aviary
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sorry I guess it's [a bunch of words][some space][a bunch of words]
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: so where output, gotcha
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i just created a regex for that hrm
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: let me look
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ^(?P<mob>[a-zA-Z]{3,12})\s{19,29}(?P<room>.+)$
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you can remove the ?P<mob> and ?P<room>
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so I already have a trigger to do that
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: works great
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but there's a specific pattern I want to *not* match
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metria Tech: So make a trigger for the specific pattern, assign it a higher priority and don't let it fall through
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, I guess I could do that
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: was hoping to learn some slick new regex bit with negative lookaheads
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: what are you trying to NOT match?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: the output of "quest info"
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: my ghetto workaround would be a trigger on quest info that disables the trigger you're not wanting to fire
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kobus nods at Raded's Backup Plan.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: if you use that regex you basically only need a trigger to turn off the trigger you put that regex into, it basically only captures the output from "where"
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: but idk what exactly youre trying to do
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: lol so that's exactly what I do
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but for some strange reason it doesn't disable if I'm running somewhere when it fires
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: apparently my code is riddled with ghetto workarounds
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: unfortunately matching lines on a mud tends to be filled with ghetto workarounds
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Matching lines on a MUD does not tend to be filled with ghetto workarounds. :p
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: depends what youre trying to do i supposescore
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't know. I tend to match things pretty easily.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: sure if youre matching 1 line verbatim, its easy
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I never match things verbatim. :P
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Here's one trigger: ^(?:\(\s?\d+\)\s|\[.*\]:\s|\s{4,})(?:([KIGHM()]+))\s
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metria Tech: That pattern reminds me, I meant to ask. Is tech a curse ok channel?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: no it isnt
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metria Tech: Damn. It needs to be, because looking at that pattern makes me want to cuss.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And how the hell does that pattern remind you to ask that question...
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yes it is, but you need to obfuscate your curse in a regex
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No, it's not Brainf**k pattern. :p
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Is there a Lua function specific to changing the output text color?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metria Tech: Permanently, or just for a single line of output?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: permenant; so, later I can concatenate strings and they may have different colors
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You're talking about ColourNote?
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or... I'm confused on what you're wanting or talking about.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: match, omit from output, and colournote output
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I am sending the output text to a window. The output is concatenated before it goes to the window and each input variable could need a different color
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah.. that's the only way I know how.. (match, omit, re-echo with color codes)
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if you're sending to a different window.. you shouldn't need to echo.. you should be able to send with color codes I'm assuming
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: an example could be, if clan = "pants" then clan = @Cclan else clan = @Bclan . Then later the 'clan' will be part of an output
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: however you're pushing to your window.. you'd just need to send the color code along with it.. not sure what you're asking at this point
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: anyone have the line for when you complete a gquest? and is the line different if you were'nt the winner? its something like You have completed the global quest. or this global quest cant remember
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Here is one I have: Global Quest: Durel has completed Global Quest # 9849.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: This is also a helpful line:  Global Quest: No active players remaining, Global Quest # 9849 is now over.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hrm, that one could work
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: might be able to figure this out in a few
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Look at wiki.aardwolf.com. There's an article that lists several MUD messages.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: abelinc.me/messages :-)
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you need to come in 2nd to get the notice.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i think ill just trigger on ^CONGRATULATIONS!$ i cant think of anything but a gq that this line appears on
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: cps...
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: theres more on the line for a cp i think
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, didn't notice the end anchor.
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I had an 80 GS550E
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: refresh the messages page to see the other GQ messages :-)
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Interesting. Protonmail. Encrypted email via Switzerland, so your data isn't privy to snooping agents.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i use ptoronmail
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: data on here??
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: protonmail*
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I just signed up for it.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: But is it end-to-end encryption?
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No, Luara.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: idk but it's free
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I think it encrypts mail you receive and send.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: If it's not end-to-end it's still at risk if the service provider gets hacked, not really any diff than unencrypted in this day n age
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: All emails are secured automatically with end-to-end encryption. This means even we cannot decrypt and read your emails. As a result, your encrypted emails cannot be shared with third parties.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: "ProtonMail is incorporated in Switzerland and all our servers are located in Switzerland. This means all user data is protected by strict Swiss privacy laws."
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: There ya go. Sexy
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Open Source, Anonymous Email...
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You get 500MB of storage for free and an email address at either protonmail.com or protonmail.ch, but then you can do a $5 a month plan that I think allows you to do a domain name.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: that's the problem with providers who don't offer end-to-end encryption. Your data routes to them, is decrypted momentarily, re-encrypted and then sent off to it's destination.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, a custom domain name.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: I really fail to see how that 'end-to-end' encryption works with a server-side tech. Which exactly are those ends?
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: for storage purposes, your data sits on their servers which also houses the decryption keys. End-to-end providers dont have/store decryption keys.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm almost tempted to spend the $5 a month for a custom domain name, too.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ugh.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Only thing that sucks about the free account is no custom email filters.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: you mean tags?
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Also sends signature with no way to turn it off. Not a horrible inconvenience, just I hate signatures.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: I didn't hate them until I entered a professional careerfield... heeheh
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Custom Email filters, Gorsk. I'm guessing like "if domain == @aardwolf.com send to Aardwolf"
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Amusingly, you can delete the signature in the email message anyway.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Also, you should look into Signal for SMS apps. And convince your friends and family to get it too. Secure encryption on SMS, too.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bludi Tech: can i use the F keys on top for aliases ?
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kroden Tech: I doubt.  Very rarely will the fKeys put a character into an input. In fact f1 on the aardwolf mushclient tries to launch help
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kroden Tech: you could probably combo it with autohotkey or something similiar.  I"m positive ahk can read an f-key press and output some other string.  Then use that string in yoru mud alias
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: yes, you can. i do. and you can disable that help thing
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kroden Tech: what do you use as a string in the alias command?
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bludi Tech: thanx guy
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: the name of the alias
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bludi Tech: i'll check it out :)
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kroden Tech: I mean how do you set f3 to be an alias?
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: Ctl+Shift+2
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: macro
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bludi Tech: i havent - i was just wundering if it was possible - just trying to improve a little you know
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bludi Tech: i usually use short keystrokes - qq - quaf heal y'know
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kroden Tech: is that dependant on using the mushclient?  I thought he was asking about the built in mud's alias command
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: most people use mush, my answer was for mush
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bludi Tech: yeah - it's not a great idea - for sure - thanx though
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: so i downloaded a minecraft mod from github, did it as import from git on eclipse, but i cant seem to build it, any suggestions?
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: hey boiz I'm looking to do a couple upgrades to my 8 year old gaming PC and wondering if I can get away with just upgrading memory and video card. will the motherboard having PCIe 2.0 screw me with newer video cards?
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: better start with SSD
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: 8 years is plenty of life, just replace it <3
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: but I'm cheap
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, if you have I5 2nd gen - no big diff to 6th gen
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: it may actually be cheaper buying newer, mass-produced components
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: i7-920 CPU
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: which seems to have held up pretty well
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: best is to compare some kind of cpu benchmark (google) , quite possible that 6th or 7th gen is not really much faster
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: pcie 2.0 won't mess with you that much imho, though it depends some on what you do
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: you still get benefit of faster processing on the card
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: + more memory and such, just an issue if you're hitting the pcie 2.0 throughput in your gaming...mudding should be just fine :)
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: biggest gain is fast SSD
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: mostly I'm just looking to get passable frame rates in Overwatch on low settings :p 6GB RAM and Radeon HD 4870 are my bottlenecks.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: You don't have to upgrade for aard. Aard loves you like that.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: what's max ram the mobo supports?
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: 24GB
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: this is the mobo: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813131365
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: definitely considered the SSD, but wouldn't that impact loading times more than frame rates?
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: could be a little of both, not sure how much of overwatch is pulled from disk vs held in memory
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Get sshd!
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: if you do go with an ssd, would make it a cheap one
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: with only sata 2 ports (unless you wanna put a sata 3 card in one of those pci e slots, I guess)
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: maybe even upgrade one thing at a time, just to do it as cheaply as possible?
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: that was my thought
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: but wasn't sure if I was going to run into issues with the PCIe 2.0 slot
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: it's all compatible as far as I know...used to run a pcie 3 card in a pcie 2 slot, no problems
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: was never an issue for anything I did
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: would be wary of power requirements and such for some of those
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Raded nods.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: 750W PSU should still be good, right?
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: should be, if it's any semi-reputable brand
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: judging by mobo, assuming that's the case :)
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: Antec on the PSU
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: yup, shouldn't be a problem
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: yeah, I threw some money at it in 2009 but it's been operating basically as a HTPC for 5 years since I didn't have a place for a desk. but now I do!
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: pretty nice system for 8 years ago, nogs
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: now the fun part of picking a video card
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: You're cheap though..
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: that was sarcasm
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 750W is a lot - heat a room in winter with that - electronics seems wasteful of current
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: I have 1.2kw in current system :)
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gladacus shrieks!
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: just depends what you play with!
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Here I ran base line 500-550w PSU's
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: can do most anything with that range, especially good quality
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox rapidly nods twice at Gladacus, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: went higher because I wanted future proof, and I do do some crazy things with my system (like virtual reality)
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: and there's a sweet spot for where you operate those power supplies at so you get good efficiency
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: was stuff I paid attention to a few years ago when I bought this one
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: I dont know the technical side, lol
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: and it's not like it's using all that wattage all the time
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox is agreeing with that Raded person again...
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Just know I got a ASUS H-81MK with the latest of the I6 cores and 6Gig ram...cant always place my graphics card, think 8400GT
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: 4 gig ram, oops
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: If i had 6, minecraft might crash less when it my ram usage spikes to 100% XD
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: meh, 4 gb ram...yeah, that seems so 00's :)
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: 64 gb ram in this fella (8 x 8 sticks of older style ddr3)
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: I have an older computer at work that I use to test speed/compatability with things. 2GB :p
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: anyway, while I'm looking at this stuff, any recommendations for a solid bang for my buck video card?
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: not as familiar with the range of cards you probably want to look at, wouldn't spend much more than $100
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: maybe worth looking through some of google results for overwatch performance testing on various graphic cards
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: you were pretty close to min spec on graphic card
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox rapidly nods twice at Raded, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: true, true. thing I don't like is that everyone benchmarks on high settings, I'd like to play on low settings :p
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: dunno if you'll want to bump up resolution/quality with a new graphics card
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: yeah, true...that was all I saw too
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: could maybe just gauge ratio of how much performance boost
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: from what I saw, it sounded like it doesn't take much graphics horsepower to do overwatch decently
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: I'd keep the resolution at 1080p and everything turned down low except for render scaling.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: it doesn't, my work laptop can get 60fps in most situations
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: maybe even worth considering used graphics card or such that you could pick up on the super cheap
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Hydro costs 18 cents a kWhour during peak - 13.2 cents mid , 8.7 cents night & weekends - running a 1200W system may be more than or most of the hydro bill in summer
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox hugs Xyliz.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: the dream would be to be able to set my fps cap at 144 and never dip down from it.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: don't suppose you already have an xbox one/ps4?
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the delivery charges are even more (Hydro are crooks with their deceptive bills)
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: maybe an option too
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: I do, but I'm an FPS snob. has to be mouse/keyboard.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: I liked playing some games on the tv :) particularly the large, explore-y kind
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: fallout 4...
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what is the wattage used when idling - set a baseline cost
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: anyone know if its possible to omit with regex? eg i want to list all items except A?
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: is it not [!A] ?
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: is there an easy way to get # of mobs in a room
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: plugin
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: does anyone else's s&d take them to labyrinth instead of chaps labrr?
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: [\-h
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: so i am  using the tracker pluging and it always displays the {chan ch-tracker} part... what am i doing wrong?
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: {chan ch=tracker}
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looking at -h, in regex, to match "anything but A" would be [^A], not [!A]
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the tracker plugin, you should probably say where you got it from, I'm not sure what "the tracker plugin" is, but by the "{chan ch=tracker}", it sounds like it's trying to do a fake channel to put output into the comms log...that's the wrong way to do that, since the comms log actually has a function to allow any plugin to inject lines of data into it
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metria Tech: You might want to look at the uh, timestamp
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I did.
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if I thought that it was a current convo, I wouldn't have prefaced by "looking at -h"
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there was not an answer given, and my answer will remain available to be seen by either those with the question or by others who can talk to the OP, or at least answer better in the future
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i am creating a one-shot timer via an alias in an xml file. I want it to do more than one thing but I am having trouble with the syntax.  AddTimer("test",0,0,5,
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: say "hi", timer_flag.Enabled + timer_flag.OneShot, "") but I haven't been able to add anything next to the "say hi"
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easy way to do it is to make an alias for what it does
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: is your suggstion for the alias on of those doafter x seconds aliases?
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I mean have the timer just do "MyAliasDoes4Things"
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: aha, gotcha. thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you really want it defined in the timer, this would work: AddTimer("test",0,0,5, "say hi;say something else", timer_flag.Enabled + timer_flag.OneShot, "")
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: is there anyway to change a oneshot timer, loaded via addtimer, to sentdo script instead of world? 
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: the documentation doesn't list it as an option
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=DoAfterSpecial
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: maybe that?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: i'll see if that works for what i'm tryin to do. thanks
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: recently i added a list of plugins, but it also added some spams to my logs, i tried removing all the plugins but it's still there
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: message goes "{invmon}3,1779648667,-1,-1" when i tries to drop an item
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: any idea how to disable it?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: omit from output :D troll solution for everything!
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: i love trolls, lol
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: not causing an issue to my game, but just looks irritating lol
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: heyyy! maybe the nuub can be helpful! type invmon (then help invmon)
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: anyone lost link and couldn't connect back just now?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: yeah, i'm disconnected
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: I lost link too
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Me too and I got attacked as it happened
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: pepper sprayed?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: I guess someone stepped on the lan cable of server then..
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Noegel tosses a bottle of beer at Gladacus ... let's just hope he'll catch it!
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: no dc here...
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: got dc'd too
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: no DC either
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: maybe dc's are all from europe.. 
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: I think most of the east, Africa is not euorpe
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghaan Tech: and dc is in us i heard
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gladacus nods.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: and could not access aardwolf.com when i checked
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: from asia
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Not a instant kick off on attempt reconnect, just good ol' timeout
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: can I make a trigger to omit output only when I use a certain alias?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: yes.. make a trigger that you enable only with that alias, and disable that trigger when trigger fire
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: yup, that's what I want :P any pointers on how to achieve?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: enabletrigger
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: ok ty now I know what to research!
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: so I made a group of triggers to omit outputs called "enchant". But I'm not sure where to put these "EnableTrigger("enchant", true)" things. I tried in my corresponding alias.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Wouldn't it be enabletriggergroup?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: And it can go anywhere as long as its sent to script
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: would "EnableTriggerGroup ("enchant", true)" be the right syntax? Doesn't the alias body confuse the script? I get compile error: [string "Alias: "]:2: '=' expected near 'resonate'
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Well if you could copy and paste the whole alias/trigger.....
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: alias is: en * = EnableTriggerGroup (enchant, true) cast resonate %1 cast solidify %1 EnableTriggerGroup (enchant, false) ------ the triggers are in group "enchant" with omit from output things like * is already humming gently.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Well Shouldnt the commands be in a send/send no echo?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: if they arent, you're trying to parse c resonate %1 as code
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: how do I achieve send/send no echo? checking "echo alias" didnt work.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: omit from output
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: No, just on one line, enable the group and next, do "Send("C resonate %1;C Solid %1....etc") .....
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: SendNoEcho works too, just then you dont see what your alias sends to the mud, so less spam in main window
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: so the script is working! but my enchant group is not being turned off (omitted). e.g enchant 1 is: "* is already humming gently." --> omit from output --> group "enchant". That's all I did with it. Should I send it somewhere else?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: hiome
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: meh
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: my bad :) I had to start with false, then go enable. Help much appreciated!
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gladacus nods.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anagantios peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Glad to help
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Glad to help
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Glad to help
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Glad to help
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Glad to help
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Glad to help
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Glad to help
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Glad to help
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: sorry!!
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: one more broken trigger :P
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: I need a alias to remove all coms from my command history
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Does anyone here work with bazel/tensorflow?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: what is the syntax for changing the color of my text to the other player's default channel colour?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: that's a good question I was curios of that as well :P
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you want to change your text so that it automatically changes color to the other players default color?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: dollarsign C....dont know to type it without it activating
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: his is red text but then this is  text  but wouldn't it be nice if this changed back to your default channel color?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: its $+C   ...but without the + inbetween
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: his is red text now  back to your default
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda is agreeing with that Gladacus person again...
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech:  this is red text now  back to your default
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gladacus nods.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stile thanks Gladacus heartily.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: works like a charm, thanks Glad :)
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Keeping my eye on tech helps alot XD
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Someone else asked that same question yesterday, so don't give me the credit, lol
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: sure does. Learning to understand what you read also does. Didnt understand the question in the first place
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: Well you answered us today so thankz for that hehe :)
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gladacus nods.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: By the way, double $ and double the C if you want to show it properly.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: $C is what Gladucus is talking about. :D
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm glad SOMEONE was paying attention!
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: how do you type that without it going wonky XD
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Gladacus, too; helps if I spell correctly. And... I just told you. :p
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I take back the paying attention part. *snicker*
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Double the $ and double the C.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech:  like $C ?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech:  like  ?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Still gets wonky, I know.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: so it is like $ C $ C
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But it's how you do it. :p
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or you can do it $C, which is @:$@:C...
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No, it was $ $ C C
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Anyway, time to wield the power of electricity and demand payment to bestow it upon others!
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: (That makes my job sound so much cooler than saying "I work in a collections department for an electricity company)
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Anyone ever explored building a note formatter plugin?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Like some plugin that when it detects a word passed 80 chars, goes back to the start of it and puts a return in, so that the next piece is on its own line and repeat
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: guys whats the easy way to pull a variable from a different plugin?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: GetVariable("variable_here")
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: you'd have to modify the plugin
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I call remote function to get internal variables
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: essentially, yes. you have to modify the source plugin.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: is there a better way to get mob count in a room, than using 'consider' or room descriptions? like a room data command or gmcp etc.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: not a problem i know what i need but whats the best way to code it?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: maybe look at CallPlugin()
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: how trachx
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if line == "{roomchars}" then
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: and then count the lines.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: process mobs
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: when you enter room (or look) all mobs are enclosed in roomchars tag
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: however con is superior, because what is shown is a description, not a name.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need a DB that will contain 2 things: mob description (obtained via processing items inside roomchars) and mob keyword - those you get from consider
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: once you processed all areas - con is no longer needed
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you add also interrogation info to that db - you will be able to wield proper weapon before killing mob
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, instead of using triggers - you can use function OnPluginLineReceived( line )
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then you also need to implement simple state machine
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: like if line == "{roomchars}" then state_mobs = true end , if line == "{/roomchars}" then state_mobs = false end
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and in between - just process line - which is mob description + flag like Angry, White Aura, etc
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: thanks that is what i was looking for
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you use processing via OnPluginLineReceived - you can also recognize that mob has died - and remove it from stored room mobs
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: what line would that be?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: experience maybe
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: unfortunately there is no single death message, you need to collect them all
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: experience line is OK as long as you kill mobs in order they are loaded in room
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but if you kill them out-of-order or you are in aggro room or your AOE kills them out-of-order
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then you cannot just remove 1st entry after mob is killed
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "experience line" does not count deaths killed by other(s)
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you need collect death messages like: Multiple slashes to the body end the life of A Guardian! It is DEAD!
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "experience line" does not count mobs entering and leaving room
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then create regexp for it to extract mob name (A Guardian in this case)
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess for most classes it does not really matter whether you track what mobs *exactly* were killed
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: yeah im not getting too complicated, i just want a count that decrements so i know when to move rooms =p
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: mobs count in room may change as mob(s) sneak in or out of room
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: from feranesa's question, you do not need to modify the source plugin...you can use GetPluginVariable()
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also note that the {roomchars} tag is both MOBs and players
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right, so best is just gather info from roomchars and conw - then you know that certain descriptions are mobs and can count only them
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: err not conw but consider
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: might be easier to write a gmcp plugin that sends 'look' when a mob dies...
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've got a roomchars miniwindow plugin
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: of course you do
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sending look requires you not to stack commands
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you want glance rather than look
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: there is a command i never knew!
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: hrm, automated target them all pupping, interesting topic
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: glance is very nice for long-winded room descs :-)
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still that will generate more traffic (bigger log files) than processing death messages
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: study
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: is there lag on study?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: problem is rather that if you use c toxic, c spear, c spear, c spear, c spear, c spear - then study/glance is not for you
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as you need to be able to send glance/study right after mob was killed (so either stack or track alive mobs with study/glance)
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: study/*glance*/consider indicate when more attacks may be stacked
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: also for the script to be 100% effective it would need to be able to handle re-pops
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: glance on repop may suffice
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some areas repop mobs between repops (mob chute)
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps prune what goes into the logfile 
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OTOH if you do not target individual mobs - you can use experience line just to remove 1st entry from mob list (so you know that now there are just 6 mobs left) then after stack is completed you send glance to refresh mob list and get exact mob list
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: auto-prune what goes into the logfile (eliminate redundancies)
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: unless timing everything, then every line of information may be relevant
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Anyway to set a delay in script? Like disable a trigger group and then re-enable after X seconds?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Using invdata and want to omit the left over prompt from omitting everything else.....
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: I forget how, but yes
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I don't think it's the best way
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: it would be better to set a state variable, and let the triggers trip but do nothing
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Ok....don't know how
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Besides, how does the trigger know to hide the next prompt?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: by keeping track of state via variables.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: what regex character set would match on any mob name? (excluding dot)
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: [AZ-az]
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: .+
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: some have numbers and punctuation dont they
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: none cmoe to mind.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: (?P<mob>.+?)
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: example is 'A 3-legged antelope'
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: that would be the c# version of regex, Ayon.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: you need to put it in context, like a con statement
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: like: "(?P<mob>.+?) should be a fair fight\\!"
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: in a con statement you just use (.*)
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: no, .+
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: right
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: .* is too greedy.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: but yours above would work also.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: but you can only determine a mob name in context, otherwise, it could be a player name, or an item etc...
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: I would go with [\w ], don't forget that they have spaces in the name
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: turns out that's what I use: (\(.+\))?\s*You would stomp (.+) into the ground\.$
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: is there any way i can improve this match: ^\[(\d+)\] You damage (.+)! \[(\d+)\]$
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: [\\w\\s,]+ is another option...not sure if any mobs violate that tho...would have to see.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'd like to catch the name of each mob I kill but I'm not seeing an easy way to do that.  Most attack skills and spells have unique kill messages, but it's a bit of a pain writing separate triggers for each of them.  A few weeks ago someone suggested that I trigger on the autosac message, but I don't want to rely on that because sometimes I have autosac turned off.  Any suggestions?  Should I go back to writing a few dozen (or more?) redundant triggers with a unique trigger for each attack skill, spell, and damage type?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: how about battle prompt?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: there isnt really.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You could capture lastkill output
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: how about gmcp
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: or use gmcp the mob you are fighting
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: oooh.  I didn't know about lastkill.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: but gmcp will sometimes not update fast enough.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That looks promising
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it depends on what you're using the info for
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: lastkill is most reliable
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: only if the mob dies on contact. lastkill only works after the fact.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you'll have to dedup stuff from lastkill if you can't have duplicates
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: All my mobs die on contact!
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: +1
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: lastkill outputs a list
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: that's all right, I can dedup if necessary.  
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: what exactly are you trying to do? there's lots of options
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: I would go with gmcp, I've never noticed not displaying the mob in question.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I have a "hitlist" table with the names of each mob I'm targeting for quest, campaign, etc.  I want to remove each mob from the list as I kill it.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: why not just trigger off the campaign message?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: you could always update the table the same way you created it.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: there's a message when you kill a CP mob
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: that's what I do..
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: same for GQ and quest
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: and that's the best: the cp message.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, I trigger off of the campaign message, but I don't know which mob I killed unless I trigger on the death message
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I just hit campaign check again
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anaristos beams a smile at Yajan.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and repush everything to the window
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: running campaign check repeatedly is a little wasteful and I was hoping to avoid that.  Also, I have commands to skip certain mobs so I might have the campaign mobs in certain orders
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well I don't know what resources your'e worried about wasting.. but it doesn't take but more than a few milliseconds
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: otherwise you're going to have to search the list and it's going to be really hard to determine whether you already killed it
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: going to be a lot of computation
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like yeah.. you can take the top lastkill off the list
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but you have to iterate the list and pop it out
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: same as retriggering on each line of campaign check
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: The resources are just a minor concern.  There are some other reasons I didn't want a full refresh on the campaign check.  It's doable though.  But I probably won't bother since I just learned about "lastkill". :)
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: how do I copy color in mush? I used to know but its been a while
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: select text, press ctrl and D
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: ty
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: How would I go about attack the first or a random mob in a room. syntax: attack ?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: 2.mob
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like without knowing the mob name?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: aoe
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah aoe is all you've got if you're not typing one of the keyword strings on the mob
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: there's no "kill mob"
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: "aoe" and "attack aoe" and "attack 1.mob"
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: isn't giving anything
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ermm..
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: they mean an area attack
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: right! i knew that ^^
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: "aoe" is short for area of effect i.e. a spell that hits everything in the room
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: which you may or may not have
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: aoe = attack on everything
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: type spells area to see if you have any AOEs
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: Area of Effect :)
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: attack of ethereality
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech:   O.O!  Yajan looks aghast!   
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hearing a strange sound you turn to see Yajan being taped up to the wall by Noegel.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan cackles gleefully at Noegel.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: I got them. learned AOE from my time with Path of Exile:D How about this, is there a fancy trick with alias/variable I can use?
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so you can manually bind your favorite aoe spell to a key combination
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: help alias.. but syntax would be like "alias [key combination] cast '[spell name]'
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: alright. I already got a list of single-target spells to "a" ill just put some aoe then.
T3/r7/2017-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: for example I use "ji" and that's bound to "cast 'ultrablast'"
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: how do I make an OR expression with alias? like camp OR fire
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mean so that you can type one or the other, or you mean so that it'll do one or the other?
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: wether I type camp or fire it executes both (I realize I can make two aliases, but I'm sure I'll need the knowledge for future stuff)
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you wouldn't need it to execute both, a camp includes a fire
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: ah :D well let's say it didn't. Is there such an OR operator?
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the difference between camp and fire is that camp has a fire plus something to sleep in
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You could do it client-side.
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or you could create two aliases mud-side.
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: what do people mean when they say do it clientside? I've heard it several times before
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they mean use the feature of your client (like MUSHclient) to perform the alias
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as in going to game -> configure -> aliases
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as opposed to typing "alias mi c miasma", which creates a MUD-side alias
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: oh :P I didn't know you could do fancy stuff without client
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to do it client-side where you could type one or the other, you'd put "(camp|fire)" as the alias, and check the "regular expression" checkbox
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: or expression learned: check! thx
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but I'd recommend training yourself to type one or the other, and make that alias do whatever is relevant for your character at the time
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: Yeah I guess it's a bad sign I'm getting lazy before I even remort
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: how would a i3-4150 3.5 GHz hold up for a VM server?
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on what you're planning to use it for...the VM hypervisor takes almost nothing, so it's all about what the "guest" operating systems and applications are
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my biggest caveat to that is that it's only dual-core, although it is hyperthreaded, so you've got 4 virtual cores in VM available
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I think it's either that or a Intel Xeon E3-1226
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: the i3 is cheaper
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which would limit how many things I'd be comfortable running on it at once
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: a couple of VMs, including win sever 2012, running AD, a Linux box, and some other random stuff
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Pleiades.. another consideration is I don't think i3 on average will support ECC ram, if thats a consideration.
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's 4-core, but no hyperthreading, so still 4 virtual cores...
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you can swing an E3-1231, that gives you 4 cores with hyperthreading, so 8 virtual cores
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: normally, I'd dump this on Azure or AWS, but I can't due to some of the testing I have to do
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: and I dont know processors well anymore
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: but yeah.. that makes sense
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: so, overall, I'd be better off with the xeon?
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Do you have an end goal in mind, Ple? You can pick up some pretty inexpensive decom servers, Dell R710 and the like.. older dual xeon boxes, support for 192GB+ Ram for under $200
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the 1226 xeon would be similar enough to the i3
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: yeah.. I've looked at the R710
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: $200 USD that is.
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: but some of the complaints seem to center around loudness and power consumption
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's what I've got for my toybox currently
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: and I dont have a rack set up 
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: but I have thought about it
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I don't think the noise is an issue. At power on everything spins up to 100% and its super noisy there.. but at idle I don't think it's any worse on noise then my MBP under load. Power.. well, it's a little hungry compared to newer stuff, but not rediculously so. 
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: and it would run on a regular outlet that's shared by other machines?
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, definitely.
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: so I guess I am back to looking at the R710 :)
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: tech 570w-870w power supplies, so similar to normal desktop draw at max
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Just be cautious which R710 so you get the right one - 2 models, one with 2.5" drives and one with 3.5" drives.
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: and which drives do I want?
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Depends on what you're after. IF you're loading with SSDs, 2.5". If regular desktop hard drives 3.5"
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Can fit the 2.5" in the 3.5" system, but fewer drives. I think the 2.5" is 8 drive, and the 3.5 only takes 6 at most
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: and what processors should I shoot for with that one
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1XebS6rw2o <-- Random youtube video of my 710 idling... totally unscientific. And thats with a bad fan
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Depends on what you plan to run - but lowest dual proc I believe were 4 core, HT.. so you'd end up with 16 threads at minimum
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If you're after low power consumption, might buy with that in mind - there were 65w and 135w cpus, i believe
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/ is pretty good about that kind of stuff - r710 seems to be a favorite around there, so lots of info
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: yeah, that's where I've been reading up on stuff for the past few days
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: and I got the idea of looking at the Ts140 and the d20
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: or one of the proliants
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I had a proliant server sitting around the house years ago, but that was a 486 :)
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: but yeah, maybe I need to look at the R710 again
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I do like the price points it's at
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: one for $207 with 2 trays, 48GB of Ram
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: is it against the rules to share mapper database files?
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No drives, though. I think thats about what I paid for mine with 6x trays, and 300gb SAS drives
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: that's a good deal 
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. Also a Buy it Now price
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: and cheaper than the boxes I had been looking at
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: so if you look around can probably find a bit better
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: and it looks like there's a ton of vendors too, on ebay
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Few things you also get by going with decom instead of building.. potential for stuff like out of band management
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: dual or quad procs.. building a desktop with this is pretty expensive
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: much memory slots
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: seems like that's gonna be the way to go then
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If you can at all deal with the noise and or power consumption, I'd do it again personally.
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Few things I wish I'd held out for: iDRAC Enterprise. All of them come with express - but iDRAC Enterprise lets you manage it over the network just like you were sitting at the device itself. Express has some limitations on session time for GUI I believe it is. This can be purchased as an upgrade, but it is an additional piece of hardware. I see them selling separately for maybe $35 
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The Raid Card - I wanted to set up FreeNAS - so most of the raid cards are unsuitable. There is one.. I think its the H700? that can be reflashed so the drives can be accessed directly without messing with Raid. May not be an issue if you don't plan to do anything with ZFS. 
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Again, can be replaced - but why buy a server, and then spend another $100 swapping something you could've got at the outset
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: yeah, that makes sense
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if ZFS doesn't matter, I think any of the cards should be fine
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I just wannt to buy something that has what I need.. without needing to buy extra this or that
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And if you plan to install ESXi on it, since you mentions VMs - Get the Dell version of the software, not directly from VM. It's on the dell site http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/virtualization/w/wiki/11399.downloading-dell-customized-vmware-esxi-6-0-iso
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: same license/keys, but it has specific config/drivers for the dell servers
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: bookmarked it :)
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: There's also an ISO floating around with all of the firmware updates.. Not sure thats on the public dell site though
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Scratch that - http://www.dell.com/Support/Article/us/en/04/SLN296511 it is on their site
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: nice
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I guess I'll have to get a rack then as well
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Always nice. But it can sit flat on the floor, or table.
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Or buy a Lack table from Ikea, and make a lack rack
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: https://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php/LackRack
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: ah, an ikea hack :)
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. Lackracks I think were probably where the whole Ikeahack thing started.. but maybe not
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I think I saw someone using legos too, for a small NUC rack
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Could be fun
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I guess I'll go check ebay and newegg now :)
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: thanks for that ifo!
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: info*
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anytime!
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I hope it works out well
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: me too!
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: what do you use yours for, btw?
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Largely collecting dust, currently. But was spinning up VMs for doing school stuff, labs and studying for Linux+. Wanted to build it up as a Freenas server but never got the replacement raid card. Currently plan is to build it up in to a router/dhcp server/proxy/file server for LAN parties.
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades nods.
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Once I finish up with school, I'll probably have more to do with it
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: more time, anyway
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I hear ya :)
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: there's never enough time
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: What trigger do you guys use with the Aard MushClient?
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: can't speak for others, but i have more than one
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: Curious what would you run more than one for? Not just a "got disarmed, grab and wear again"?
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: automated hunting, not killing, just getting to target, the hunt trick itself and a ton of other automated things
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran yawns.
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: got disconnected again like yesterday, now it is longer. net is available, but can't connect to aard.
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: ok so my comp crashed and completely brok mush so i did a reinstall... got my plugins moved back over. where do I find the file for all my map data?
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Before doing anything, close out mush - create a zip file backup of the entire folder from your old install.
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Then once you have a safe copy - the database is stored as aardwolf.db, that is the mapper file.
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: ok tech k brb
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gladacus waves adieu as Wars sails off on the U.S.S. Failboat.
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: thanks got it
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: comp crashed while I was exiting much completely fubared it
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: mush
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: i got double starvin/dehydrated msgs. 4 lines. bug?
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: probably not, probably something client-side
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: how do I make the winkle spellup script forget a spell?
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try "ww help"
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: ty
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "spellup help" limits the output to just the spellup script's help..."noauto <spellnumber>" will toggle whether or not a spell will be auto-cast
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: a regexp that just uses start/end anchors, is it the same as an alias not using regexp at all?
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Matches blank lines.
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: if I wanted to modify a plugin, is there a way to 'decompile' (wrong term, but you get the idea) from xml and load its settings into a blank mush world?
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I think import may do that
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: looking at it now though
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: try File->Import Import From... File
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I can't really test it out without adding a bunch of crap
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but if you have a blank one, no harm in trying
T3/r7/2017-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: back up your current .mcl first just in case
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: how do I use xcp for global quests?
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: using mushclient what symbols do i use to trigger off part of a word in a trigger?
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: can you provide an example?
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: the word would be  (level 1 and you didn't put in the ( in the trigger, do you need to use a symbol to replace it
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: or instead of goodmorning you jut used morning in the trigger, not the whole word, do you need to use a symbol to make it work
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: anybody?
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: What's the command to reset S&D miniwindow?
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: x
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: er, I think resetaard works
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Not the best way, lol
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: and it doesnt
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: xset reset perhaps?
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: Nope
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: Anyone using Aard MushClient able to explain how to create a "command word" that lets me enter a list of commands? Trying to just type qpot to enter "get potion bag
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: then quaff potion :)
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: you mean a alias?
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: you can actually do that with a server side alias. 'alias qpot get potion bag;quaff potion'
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gladacus nods.
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: is that what it would be? I am still trying to learn this client. Used zMUD/cMUD for years... like 10+ years ago lol
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: Beautiful, thanks! i'll read that faq too hehe
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone know of a script that tracks the count of potions in your inventory? i buy 50 health points, quaff 10, and the script knows i have 40 left?
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looking at tech -h, to reset the S&D miniwindow, it's "xset reset gui"
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for only looking at part of a word in a trigger, if you click the "regular expression" checkbox, then you don't need to use any symbols to match on partials, as regular expressions are not anchored by default
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bloood/lunk/maybe used to have a potionquaffer plugin that tracked potion quantities, but he moved his github archives...bast's potionquaffer plugin also keeps track of quantities, so you may want to give that one a try
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rather, he REmoved his github archives :P
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: how do I tell mapper to run to the first room of an area?  seems odd there is no command for that
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: are you running S&D?
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: then it should be in the help file, which you may need to read
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: mapper doesnt know or care what is the first room
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: think of the mapper as the bare bones you then lay your own muscles and tendons over and if you're trying to pass on a package some skin to hide all the grizzly bits
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: i wonder how would coding work in vr. not the low-res vive but that new chinese one
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: i have a friend who had to quit his job because he had to look at another persons sweatty face all the time at the office
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: vr could solve that
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Your friend did not have to quit his job. The elitist jerk wanted to.
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: I might quit gclan if I have to look at Amazon's clan tag
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: clantags fixes that.
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: i tell you, its fine!
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: open your mind!
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: that is...that is just too simple of a solution. I won't allow it.
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'd rather open yours. With a blade. Rusty.
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: the appropriate action to take would be to outcast, so that you dont have to see any clan tags any more
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: at least not on gtalk
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: gclan*
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: i dont need brain. can mud fine with spine
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ampersand Tech: Coming back after awhile, my "floating" map in mushclient isnt refreshing when I move.  How do I fix it?
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: make sure you have tags on
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: "tags on" and "tags map on"
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ampersand Tech: that did it, thanks
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: what is the lua command to tell mapper to go somewhere, or to do something e.g. 'mapper area' ?
T3/r7/2017-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: are you thinking of "mapper next"?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bhengis Tech: can mushclient work on a mac? and if not, is there something comparable that does?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: if you are willing to install wine it works perfectly on a max
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: oops mac
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bhengis Tech: sweet, thanks
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bombora Tech: somehow i have managed to start to show tags - like "{/rdesc}" how can i turn off?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: type tags
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bombora Tech: either that or a plugin is not workinh anymore
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: That will give you the whole list of tags that you can turn on/off
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bombora Tech: so toggle the tagname
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gladacus nods.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: if it comes back, may want to unstall all added in plugins, till you find the culprit that turn's it back on
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: I mean, remove them and add 1 by 1 back
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bombora Tech: if i type ROOMDESCS as an exampe it says i sont understand
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bombora Tech: if i type ROOMDESCS as an example it says i dont understand
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: type tags roomdesc on
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: "Tags Roomdescs off"
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bombora Tech: oj syntax helps :)
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bombora Tech: thnx :)
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: why is it that my main port gets disconnected every now and then, but test port doesn't, and my other internet connection have no problem
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: and it only happens to me it seems
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Principium Tech: happens to me alot. 
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: same..
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: disconnected like it drops but you can reconnect..?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: session limit?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: or it lags up before you can reconnect?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Principium Tech: it just completely disconnects then it reconnects
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I was having a hard time staying connected but I think it's my network.. so probably not applicable to Wire's ish
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: testport and main are different hosts
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: when it disconnects, it cannot connect for like 5-8 seconds, then it can connect again
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: it there is a pause before you can reconnect to main - you could check route to host, maybe there are some problems with routing 
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: the fact that testport is working fine means it's not my connection problem
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: interesting.. sounds like the issue I was having right when we switched hosts
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: are you hitting the IP directly or the named host?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: it only occured after we switched to this new host
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: aardwolf.net port 23
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan nods.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you could try hitting the IP directly to rule that out..
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: if it is just 5-8 seconds - you need to run some kind of traceroute that monitors path all the time, then you should see a change in route when you get disconnected
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: also possibly clearing dns cache just for fun
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: hmm k
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I think axence net tools has something like that
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: will try hitting IP directly first
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: when I was having issues I started connecting directly to: 23.111.136.202 Port 23
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: seemed to stop having problems.. but couldn't really say why
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: ok thx trying that
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: if that doesn't work, will ask here how to traceroute :p
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: and i've noticed it only happen when im on home wifi broadband (1gbps), and not on slower phone wifi tethering
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: DNS is not a cause of disconnect
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: if you use VPN then switching hosts may disconnect you
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I wish I knew more butt from my head when it comes to Networking... =)
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: still working on recognizing the differences..
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: if you mean DNS - it is used just to resolve names - so you ask DNS what IP has aardwolf.org and it answers for example 122.133.1.22
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: nah, I mean more advanced stuff
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like troubleshooting issues
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: that is fairly easy either there is fault on your end or in other point :P
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: if lights on your modem blink then you can assume that is other point
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like most things =)
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: but usually to diagnose problem it is just enough to use nslookup (to check dns), ping (to check connectivity) and traceroute to check whether there is a path from you to destination
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: best is to save working traceroute output and compare it to traceroute when you have no connection
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: mmmm
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: anyway, usually you can solve problems if you cannot access your ISP gateway or when you see that there is a loop in your ISP network
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: otherwise usually you can do nothing
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: if you have access to some VPN like PIA - then you could try to connect to other country, if it is problem with routing - there is a chance that is is not broken in other country
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: anyone using notepad ++ ?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: yesw
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yes. But not to mud.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: but always better to ask the question :)
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: do u know how can I make something to tell me when I extend 75 characters in a line?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: no!
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: nvm found it
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Heh, I wrote a script to automatically format notes for me so I don't have to worry about that. :p
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: In fact, even have a text editor box popup for notes. Only thing I don't care for is not being able to do blank lines in notes without using @@w.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Er, @w.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I crack myself up ha ha ha
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I wish I could say mischan
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I wish I could say I cared.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over Arcidayne's head.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan smiles happily.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasus Tech: Anyone up on audio?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Defines Tech: whats up
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasus Tech: Looking for best options to run entire house audio
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Defines Tech: like wall speakers?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasus Tech: Like which receiver unit would be best
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Defines Tech: hmm there are so many options heh
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasus Tech: Indeed.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Defines Tech: whats your budget
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasus Tech: Probably moderate. I dont need high end. Not throwing house parties anytime soon.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: backround aardwolf music?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasus Tech: You make it sound like I am the only one
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Defines Tech: you want network, wireless, wired?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasus Tech: Wired
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Defines Tech: good call
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Wireless audio is faulty at times.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Defines Tech: depends
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Depends on how high end you go, anyway.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And how much interference you get between.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasus Tech: What is the point of wireless speakers, if you have to supply them with power anyways. Still tethered
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Defines Tech: well if the signal is all digital and the dac is in the speakers bluetooth is fine but thats not typical
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Except you can easily hide the power cords. :p
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: I like having wireless option for speakers, nice to connect whatever device to it without cords
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Defines Tech: the point is you dont have to run wires TO the receiver :p but i digress
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Defines Tech: $1000 too much? not sure what you mean by moderate
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasus Tech: Nah. Thats fine.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Defines Tech: sweet id recommend Yamaha RX-A860
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: A little remodle work, and you can run power behind the walls to all of your speakers and units.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: remodel*
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasus Tech: A little work and you can wire them to your receiver
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nasus: What I'm saying is that you can make wired look wireless. :P
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Defines Tech: i really like in wall audio panels but its a bit of work
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Defines.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasus Tech: In the process of remodeling. So nothing that cant be done.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Nasus.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Defines Tech: nice enjoy
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: In using the "Script" option for Triggers, how do you identify captures? For example, "You gain (\d+) experience points!", in the "Script" box, I have "exp_update", how do I let the script know to use %1 as the experience?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah.. I was wondering the same a while back.. I don't think you can directly send params
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you can name the capture groups if that helps
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I think there's a way, but I'm not sure yet.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like the script box itself doesn't accept params AFAIK
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so what are you planning to do on the otherside (in the function)?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: oh, it's wildcards.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ahh *nod*
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: wildcards[1].. etc.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Looks like use wildcards[1] through wildcards[10].
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sorry didn't know what you were asking.. you can also do (?<experience>.+) and do wildcards.experience in the functions
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I find that more useful when I'm sending a few
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: So basicaly, wildcards is a table?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Gladacus.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: anyone know how to set default language for .xml to lua in Notepad++?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Default even when you close/open the app?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: No, sorry
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: Ive been manually selecting the language every time i edit a plugin
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: This 'might' help: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9119517/notepad-how-to-automatically-set-language-as-xml-when-load-files
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: any ideas why my group monitor plugin wouldnt be working? i had it disabled, recently enabled it, and cannot find it
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: is S&D plugin outdated? I'm getting "Alias function "xrun_to" not found or had a previous error." when I "xct" & "xrt".
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Winkle's is. Nokfah's updated version is not.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Lyrik it might have move behind another window
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: i've moved all windows around and still don't see it
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: is it safe to just uninstall the wink plugins and that's that? (I have trauma of orphan scripts from skyrim modding)
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: also, hello. mushclient questions answered here.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: We were having a discussion here a few days ago and someone mentioned that mushclient uses telnet behind the scenes to connect to aard.  Is that really the case and is there a reason we don't use ssh?  If so, is that because aard does not support ssh connections?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metria Tech: Do you feel a deep-seated need to have combat spam encrypted?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: my hammering blow is super secret!!
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Heh, no.  But I'd rather not have someone get my login and sell/steal all my stuff :)  I'm assuming this hasn't been an issue in the past here, but I'm paranoid :)
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: if the connection was encrypted, they'd just nag lasher or threat him with jail to send them ALL the traffic
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: and what do you think the market value of your char is anyways?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: iirc it has more to do with MUD clients not being designed for SSH
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metria Tech: I wouldn't do it with SSH, I'd throw SSL/TLS in there. 
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metria Tech: That's easily done with any client and stunnel.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: if it doesn't work with my freeware zMUD 16 bit client then I don't need it
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: So is it a limitation with the client or is it that aard doesn't support encrypted logins?  I'm not criticizing anyone...I'm more curious why there is a limitation.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metria Tech: You'd have to ask Lasher to be sure, but my guess is that it's not worth the overhead to him.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: that too
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: plus people who play MUDs in 2017 tend to be set in their ways and even if only a couple clients were impacted people would be upset
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ok, makes sense.  
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metria Tech: Let's say Lasher implements a port which adds SSL. How many players do you think will actually bother to use it?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I would assume everyone...
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: I've always used junk passwords with MUDs
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: I am mudding since 1993.. and I never heard of anyone packet sniffing to steal a mud account..
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: eh. if next uptade of mush would have encryption, id download it instantly. first time in 2 years:)
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: because i like the word. 
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: btw. has anyone made a tetris plugin for mush?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Fiendish did.
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: i ws joking but WHA?!?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: where?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: BluMalice made a chess plugin
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metria Tech: Is compression negotiated before character login?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: yeah I did
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: but I did it as aardwolf mobprogs first
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: where's the tetris plugin... hmm...
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/experiments/experiments/miniwindow_Tetris.xml
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you can also get the music and drop it in the same folder: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/raw/experiments/experiments/Tetris_theme.wav
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: is goo.gl/pdcMnl the updated nokfah S&D? Also, what is the 4th file next to the 3 wink XMLs?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: one reason aardwolf doesn't support ssh is because encrypted connections require significantly more cpu per connection
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: at least that's the reason historically. whether that's a big deal today I don't know
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: think it's less of a hit nowadays with some of the newer cpu instruction sets
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: is there a "SendNoEcho" that I can send to Execute?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: but yeah, never heard of an SSH connection option for a mud...guess if it would be anywhere, it would be aard :)
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: outside of SendAfterSpecial ... I don't see a way..
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=9739
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Can you toggle SetEchoInput(false) before your command and then set it back to your original value after the command?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeap that's exactly what my link suggested Durel
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Heh, I wrote that and named it quietExecute() just yesterday :P  It was handy
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: (tetris as aardwolf mobprogs. use it in your next area!) : http://wiki.aardwolf.com/index.php/Main/InteractiveEventLoops
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sorry missed your original responses
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, I think I could do that
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: I screwed up a mapper cexit that was approved. Anyway I can clear all cexit for callhero?
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: right click the room and delete exit
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: hand a mop to abelinc and tell him you need a wet cleanup on aisle 4
T3/r7/2017-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: if you have a lot to delete you could use sqlite browser for more control
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: how do I teach mapper what portals I'm carrying?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: YES, good question. site says: <aliases> <alias match="port *" enabled="y" expand_variables="y" ignore_case="y" sequence="100" > <send>get '%1' bag hold '%1' enter hold/dual myOldItem put '%1' bag</send> </alias> </aliases>
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: but I don't know how to edit that even with instructions :P
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: was hoping it was just "Mapper portal <insert item name>" 8(
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: I think that's just to teach mapper where it goes, like cexit. Not sure though.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: No one here would happen to be familiar with editting the Stat window in the mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: err "Anyone"?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I have no experience in the matter, nope
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: editing stat window?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: the mini window that shows STR/INT/DEX ... etc
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: are you far enough in that you're able to get new stuff to show up there?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: or wondering how you would accomplish such a thing?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: I would like to add things to the window that might not be specifically stats or even stuff like my Hunger/Thirst rating
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: just open aard_statmon_gmcp.xml and edit it
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: perfect thanks
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: it is basically a window containing text, so just enough to add new text 
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Principium Tech: would it be possible to write a plugin similar to S&D for blowtorch? 
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: I wouldn't think so.. iirc blowtorch doesn't support any kind of scripting. just simple alias/macros no?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Principium Tech: there is a simple chat window plugin available which leads me to believe that there may be a possibility. 
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Principium Tech: although it seems as if all development has seized. 
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Principium Tech: In one of the videos on YouTube he has a version with a map window etc... Which he said he would extract and implement in time although i dont see that happening as the forums have been unaccessible for some time now and no further updates have been released. 
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kramercosmo Tech: how do i get a variable alias to work in mush client
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: send to execute I guess
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: also depends how complicated it is
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: are those ones you have to set as Script and check the Expand Variables checkbox?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kramercosmo Tech: all it is is getting a portal out of a bag and holding then putting it back in bag
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kramercosmo Tech: mp01 *
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: send to execute
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kroden Tech: how do you use the Variables from the Variables section in the alias section?  Syntax wise i mean
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you put an @ infront of the variable name and check the 'expand variable' box to the right
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: but you can only reference them that way. to change them you need to learn to use lua or some other scripting language
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kroden Tech: thanks.  I've been using them but only in a script file.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you can also make the alias run as a script, by changing the send to, and then you use GetVariable etc
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kroden Tech: Yah thats what I do.  I have a script setup so I can ShowVar, SetVar  and I have a lot of variables setup for damage, healing, healpot, etc
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kroden Tech: so i can just type setvar damage engulf and my alias to cast damage spells will use engulf now
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you are aware that you can use the sn for casting
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: so c 54 cast heal
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kroden Tech: yah.. but its the same. I use regular expressions to capture stuff.  so c number is the same as  c lots of spell words.. and when i type showvar i can see the name rather than a number
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: what does it mean when mapper says "'Gypsy Encampment' is Unknown despire fully explored area.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: despite*
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: Ha! finally got the stinking Hunger/Thirst added to the statmon window
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: my laptop fan sounds grindy. i already cleaned it any suggestions?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: Sometimes the bearings start to go on them and it may need replacing.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Oil it maybe? replace it?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: you can try oil it
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: id have to remove the keyboard to get to it. thats a bit scary for me. guess ill take it to the shop and ask them
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: Why not trying to google your make and model number for how to videos on youtube
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: thanks. i bought it in 2013 so it might be the bearings
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: get a serivce manual - usually it is quite easy to dismantle laptops, just a lot of screws and you need to know an order of removal
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: You'll save yourself a lot of time and money if you do it yourself
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: because im still afraid ill break something:P
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: They're amazingly hardy.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: well, better do it slowly yourself than give it to a people that have never opened your model :P
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: I've disassembled many .. the only challenging thing is remembering where all the screws go
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: what kind of oil do i need? will Q20 work?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: Personally, I wouldn't try oil.  You'd run the risk of fusing circuits on the mainboard.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: well we don't want that
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: what would happen if it breaks anyway? im using the laptop now
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: breaks? you mean a fan?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: The fan?  You run the risk of overheating.  If that happens, your laptop will shut down.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: yeah the bearings
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: Used to happen to my Dell all the time heh.  the gpu was a little overclocked and ran hot.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: i have a fan on it and its luckily a cold day. just afraid it will take a bunch of other things with it
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: it should not
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It shouldn't.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: Not generally.  Most laptops have temp sensors that will shut the machine down before serious damage occurs.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It would only take a bunch of things with it if you've somehow overridden the automatic shutdown when it overheats.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Might get a replacement fan, though. They're relatively cheap.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: well its not hot at all. without the fan next to it it gets hot. i had an app that measured it at 90C once
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: any idea on how hard it would be to install a fan i buy of the internet?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: first timer like 1h 
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: usually not very hard
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: Make sure you get the right one for your laptop
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: the key is to go slow.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: usually just remove old part and install a new one
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It isn't difficult. Really, it's usually four screws and a snap in adapater.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: only screwdriver is required - just make sure you have one that fits screws :P
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: if all else fails i could ask the shop to install it. i see they are really cheap luckily
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: thanks for the advise
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: are there any good tutorials for making a miniwin
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: you can search google, there are old tutorials made by Gammon on making windows.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ugh. Anyone know of any batch video metadata editors? Preferably free.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kratos Tech: Looking for lua coding tutorials, any recommendations?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: google...
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: how n00b are you?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kratos Tech: Java is my 1st lang.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Java isn't a language, it's a drink
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: oh, so souless...
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kratos Tech: Just alot of bull crap videos out there. Was just curious, need to need to crucify me.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: really lua is like the easiest language in the world. super small and simple, so hit google, RTFM and look at the scripts in the world/plugins folder. The best tutorial is sourcecode
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If all you're finding are videos, then you don't know how to search google.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: no one is crucifying you, but now that you mention it, Java was your first language...
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I can search "lua tutorials" and find a dozen sites easily.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kratos Tech: lol thanks guys. tech off. :)
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ? what's up?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: java snowflake.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Up is a two letter word. It often determins a state of being (He was up and about) or a direction opposite of down (He went up the stairs). Any other questions?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: upperdowner?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: If I want to update some text on a miniwin how do I do it so it clears the previous window properly etc. (also, first)
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: shake your monitor really hard
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F-oiz5EKZM
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: is it just me or did the format of the swho results change recently? It used to say [clanname] and now it doesn't have the brackets. Did I accidently change an option in the game?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I think it's just you
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: If you do 'swho 12 emerald, the brackets will be there :p
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: is that because [Emerald] already has the brackets?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: did you turn off clantags?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: ok i got it. somehow i turned back on clantags *nod kobus*
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: How do I make S&D forget a portal?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metria Tech: mapper help portals
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: thx!
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: so I listed my clan recall portal alias with the "mapper portal ...", should I also use the command "mapper portalrecall" on the alias?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: dank u
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bamboo speaks of the Balance to Kobus.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you should make a custom exit through any nomap rooms of your clanhall to the clan's area exits
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: Yeah I quickly found the need to do that as I tried xrt from clain recall ^^
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: the xcp replaces areas with room names, and if that room is unexplored I get "'Cold and gusty' is Unknown" with no reference to area name forcing me to google the room to find the area. Any other solution to this?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: explore
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: xset mark the starting room
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: it will set itself to the last room you were in the area.  have to set the start room for it to know the start.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xcp isn't replacing areas with room names, it's that the campaign you're on is a room-name campaign
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: I see, alright.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: ahh yes .. thats the right answer.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the room name that you were given isn't in your mapper database because you've never been there...so since the mapper doesn't know of the room, you'd need to go elsewhere (rooms.gaardian.com is good for this) to know where to go
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't bother using google for the room, when there's rooms.gaardian.com and hadar.ninja
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metria Tech: When you go on a campaign, try to take a minute or two to run around and unlock a few extra rooms to fill in your mapper.
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: google is faster :P I just get the area, rt, and xset mark --> done. Right?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually, google isn't faster...check out those resources...
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: I always try to explore areas that don't seem to have a lot of aggro mobs :) figure it'll help eventually
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: I do. I'm weekly #1 explorer :D
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not about xset mark
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: what is the main reason people use sharptracker?
T3/r7/2017-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: boredom
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: is there a way to make mapper list the starting rooms for each area?
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: write a script
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: doesn't the 74715-state.xml file in in worlds->plugins->state have the start room id?
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aphelion Tech: I just built a db table with the entry points and some other flags.
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: hm, thanks all
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: guys i started having issues with the xeqdb from bast crashing on the invmon plugin, is there a fix for that im not using it but it keeps reloading as well.
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: why are my cexits only showing command to open a door and not go that direction? i'm doing something wrong obviously..
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you need to put ;; when you make your cexit or you lose the ; between them
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: doggonnit!!!
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: is there a generic command to dual x after using a portal?
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: yes. wield
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: and alias
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: offhand [keyword]
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: alias myenter wear portalname;enter;dual weaponname
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: alias myenter wear portalname;;enter;;dual weaponname
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: generic as in dual [whatever you removed before putting on portal], in other words something that doesn't need to change whenever I upgrade/change my offhand.
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: for that you'd need a client plugin
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: what pumpkin said is wrong... all your portals would be in inventory in the end.
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: when you start using aardweapons chances are all your dual weapons will have the same name. you can use pumpkin's alias then
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bombora Tech: then use the unique id instead
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: make a different Alias for each portal and end with Put portal bag? 
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bombora Tech: yo would need to start with getting it from the bag also
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: I have the portal aliases working fine with dual [wepID], but it sounds exhausting to have like 20 portal aliases that need maintenace every upgrade before the use of aard weapons.
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: use a variable in them. then you only need to change it in one place
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: oh god. Now I have no good reason to avoid learning variables. Thanks very much :P
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: just use ID... 
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: you can auto update variable with invdata tags
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: simpliest solution I can think of would be to trigger on "{invmon}1,735269546,-1,25". 25=dual weap. To "dual 735269546". That trigger would force you to always dual though, not great.
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: oh scratch that, it would be crap
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: definately
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: simply put in your level and things get easier
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: this is what i use: alias port * with the following send: get '%1' ortal_bag
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: hmm hold on
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: yes the @ gobbles letters
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: there: http://pastebin.com/yu1juJQY
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: everything with an \is a var
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: grr the at sign
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: how do you define your dual item? 
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: I could probably google may to this but what does at do?
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: in a variable in Mush
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: create a variable in the Mush client and give it the value of your dual item
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: wear all is all you need :)
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: so variable name: whatever and then variable-code: [wepID] ?
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: why bother? just wear all...
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: Nuanse is right, wear all is so simple and should work great
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: unless you loot stuff...
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: ctrl + shift + f7 -> add -> name without the at sign -> value the wepid
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: could even make a trigger to fire off entering a portal
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: I'm not that consistent with organizing my inv. Suddenlt it contains 12 weapons. Who is to say what I'll wear
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: your inventory is a stack
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: so when you wear something, the thing you removed goes to the top
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: that's why wear all works ok for this
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: and when you loot stuff, that goes on over the removed thing
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: if offhandable, it'll be worn
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: not with that alias, it doesn't give you time, etc. to loot stuff in between
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: maybe something like this: http://pastebin.com/SHhqLVYA
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: for area portals the only thing I need to do is: mapper portal <alias>?
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: and set the level
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: there is a pop wizard for that after isn't there?
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: but id the portal first so you know
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: why does S&D sometimes stop the hunt process? like --> hunt 1.zoo keep --> You have no idea what... --> doesn't start hunt 2.zoo
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Because it needs to be updated with the correct hunt messages.
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiK Tech: tour quesiton
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i meant to replace the "your question" part with your actual question :p
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhydwyn Tech: hi is there way to stop the hp bar flashing up every few moments 
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhydwyn Tech: i have mudlet so have the scripts for the hp bar/map etc anyway so it flashing my hp is annoying
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hrm, it seems mudlet isnt used by a whole lot of people here :(
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhydwyn Tech: I see. thanks. surely you can toggle the update of the hp bar though 
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhydwyn Tech: the one that says "(603/603hp 847/747mn etc etc
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea im sure theres a way you could just unload the script but thats not really a solution
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: like i said, never used mudlet so i really have no idea
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i do highly recommend the mushclient package though on aardwolf.com
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhydwyn Tech: ok no prob
T3/r7/2017-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhydwyn Tech: ill give that a go 
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: hm. a new thing with chrome. when the memory gets low(i guess) and there is some js app, its gonna refresh it some point but messes it up now. when switching windows and stuff.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: never seen this before but now it happens quite often
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: so when coming back to the app, its reloaded with some of it working the way it was before. and some things are flushed
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: started last week
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: with different apps
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: thanks for the script redryn.. I had an alias named ph too.. it seems I have to remove it otherwise it's funny.. :P
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: welcome
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: exit command that clear a pool of command?
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: exist
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: could someone check if social media login via facebook works on my site, please? http://212.12.197.80:7000
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: i`m log in
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: wow, got someone! Thank you!
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: this is a strange phising web page
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: phishing
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: phishing what? :D
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Principium Tech: something phishy is going on here
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: are there forms to fill in PII?
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh wait, nevermind.. Facebook sent it all
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan giggles.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: you should always check the URL field before entering any passwords
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: and only enter your facebook password for https://facebook.com
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowse Tech: Are you stealing Enei's datas
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raded Tech: enei's nudes will be everywhere in 3 minutes
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: he stole all my naked pictures of my mom.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: it`s my wife account =))
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oooOOoooo
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: if im trying to do a fast regex match, would .+? be the "laziest". Or is a more specific expression better to use.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Can mushclient cexits access variables or something from a script?  I could create a dummy alias that just passes along info to a variable or script, but I'd like to avoid that kludge if cexits can access them directly.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: cexits can call aliases
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: but can't really do anything with variables afaik
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yep, I can use an alias to link up cexits to a variable or script.  That's what I'll do if there isn't a direct way for them to communicate
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: OK, that's what I thought.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: S&D just stops when I get the message "You have no idea what you're doing, but maybe a * is *?" I wish it would just continue to hunt 2.%1 3.%1 4.%1 etc. Any tips?
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I told you last night the answer.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: it is the message, it is not included in the plugin
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: damn I don't even remember asking
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: [13 Feb 08:14:31] Arcidayne Tech: Because it needs to be updated with the correct hunt messages.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: you have to add it in
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't remember asking, or is someone else playing your character in the meantime?
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: [13 Feb 07:35:44] Qvothe Tech: why does S&D sometimes stop the hunt process? like --> hunt 1.zoo keep --> You have no idea what... --> doesn't start hunt 2.zoo
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masrok Tech: BLAP BLAP . headshot
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: any idea why I keep getting this msg?  Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: oh yeahhh! But I still have no solution :P How do I add it in?
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Have to edit the plugin directly.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Looking for a fairly proficient C# coder to update a some code for me, paying $USD, send a tell if interested in learning more
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: which file? and what do I ctrl+f edit? sorry if i'm asking too much
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Involves accessing web data online and doing some analysis on it
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sorry, I limit my answers to three per person per day.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Arci What is the land speed of an unladen swallow?
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I haven't looked at the plugin in forever. I think he has a table of hunt messages, though. *shrug*
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: What is a swallow?
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Depends on the swallow.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: he has them all regex ored in the trigger I think
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: opposite of spit
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: What are the types of swallows
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: oh god not regex
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bombora Tech: african or european?
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: #hot
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: European in my toilet and missing, Bombora.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bombora chuckles
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: why are two year olds so terrible?
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bombora Tech: wait until they get to 3
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Because there's two of them.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Does only the first alias on a line get evaluated in mushclient?  If I do something like "myAlias1 foo
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: arg!  just a sec
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Does only the first alias on a line get evaluated in mushclient?  If I do something like "myAlias1 foo; myAlias2 bar" the first alias is expanded and executed properly but the second alias is sent to the mud -- which doesn't know what to do with it.  Am I doing something silly and just not seeing it?  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: only the first line of tech gets sent though :P
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Put each on it's own line with no semi-colon.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: heh, I always do that.  I should write a script that automagically adds the second semicolon for me :P
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: may have adverse results!
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or you can start the line with a ;
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If I do them separately they work.  The problem is that I want both in the same cexit line.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Putting the ; at the start allows you to always just use one ; to indicate ;
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ooh, that helps.  I'll remember that trick.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah basically I *think* you want to send the command with an extra semicolon
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not sure you can use a double alias in cexits. Single, yes, but not two of them.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: since that's the only way it'll get through to cexit
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I could be wrong, though.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and I would send it as one line with semicolons attached, if I understand what you're trying to do
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, it's not getting through on cexits no matter if I use a single or double semicolon.  Only the first alias is expanded.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: could you send an example?
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Sure.  I want a cexit in Giant's Pet Store that gets an employee pass from a container, does the shakes bob thingy to get the key, opens the appropriate door, and then puts the pass back in the container.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: I have that
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If I hardcode the container name, it works fine
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: k, so you want to make an alias to do what exactly?
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: But I want the name of the container to be a variable in case I change containers later
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: So I have an alias to get something from my key/pass container and a second alias to put it back
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so make the container a variable then? call it "keyContainer" and SetVariable("keyContainer","[container name]")
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If cexit let me access variables then it would be simple
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I see
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so you need cexit to execute something
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixultar Tech: can plug mushclient alias into a cedit...
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I already have that variable.  The problem is that you can't access variables from cexit
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixultar Tech: (cexit, I mean)
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So basically you want foo @var to work.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Exactly :)
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'd just change your alias to do it internally.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I could have an alias that does the whole thing for that particular area, but I was hoping for something more general
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ask Fiendish, I suppose. He'd know better than anyone.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it definitely it's a simple task AFAIK
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: OK, I'll ping him the next time I see him on.  I think I've used up my 3 questions to you today :P
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: isn't*
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers with Durel about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: little known mapper fuction mapper findpath <fromrid> <torid>
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles at Tol's joke.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ?
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I don't think it's useful in isolation..
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: its kind of like beacon of light
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I don't think it takes into account portals and what not
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I tried using it once and stopped
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: maybe I just failed at understanding how it was working
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I think mapper where is the easier way to use that function
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: (I think mapper where uses it under the hood to come up with the full path)
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it does take portals into account
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Yajan it would be only used in an alias I would imagine if you wanted it for some reason
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it's probably useful to override some default behavior of mapper where
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but would probably require some time to figure out how you could modify the algorithm to do something useful
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: when using the manor building web page, in free text, under last section for special instuctions to imms it says...f you would like your
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: would like your description formatted or not
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Is there a question there somewhere?
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: haha
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I think it was just an FYI
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'mma down my hot toddy now and hope my body recovers enough by tomorrow night to go to work on Thursday.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: is that like a hot potty?
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Apparently you're too young, so you need to go to bed, young child.
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I jest..
T3/r7/2017-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan snuggles into bed with his teddy bear. What a cute couple!
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for Durel's thing, he mentioned having "an alias to get something from key/pass container, and second alias to put it back"...I'm confused as to the issue, because that's all you'd need in order to be able to make the cexit work with the container variable...
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cexit GetPass ItemToGet ; SomethingToDo ; PutPass ItemToPut...as long as GetPass and PutPass use @ContainerVar, then changing @ContainerVar will work to change the cexit
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: does anyone have experience with VIP MUD screenreader clieant? my friends says it refuses to accept alias hp get duff case;;quaff duff
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: how do I get my current level from the gmcp handler?
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: Has anyone designed a buff window for the MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: sure. it's quite buff!
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: seriously. there is lots of spellup plugins... if you mean by buff those :P
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: im sure you know what i meant initially, i laughed on the inside...
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: bast has one you might want to try
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: i suspect he means one that shows all your current affects
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: yep, finger bast for his plugins
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: but yes the bast spellup plugin is nice
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: thank god I'm not only one mischanneling in answer :)
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: and don't blame us for wanting to buy a larger monitor to fit them all on screen
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: answer I ended up dumping all my potions and buying a bag of aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: oops! LOL
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: why does run s2es;;buy 2 give me "Invalid directions in command."
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladacus Tech: if you have double ;, it will
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kroden Tech: I did something to my main window.. i think with an alt+ some key.. it shrunk really small and its unresizable now
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kroden Tech: fixed it by quitting.. didn't resize my windows.. but let me resize them again
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: what is the host name of Aardwolf and port number?
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: help ip
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, that needs to be updated.
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: wont work
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: aardwolf.org, port 23
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: wont work
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Then you're doing something wrong, because that's precisely what I'm on.
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And everyone else, aside from different ports.
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: it wont work on blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: hmm, im on aardwolf.net 4010 it seems :P
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Try the other ports?
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Quad: The aardwolf.org was prior to the DNS updating with the new server.
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: I get no address associated with the hostname
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then fix your dns :-)
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: how?
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on how you're on a network, and where you have it wrong...
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should be able to get to aard using aardwolf.org, aardmud.org, aardwolf.net
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: then why I dont?
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, it depends on how you're on a network, and where you have it wrong...
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is this a PC or a mobile?
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it your own network, a hotspot, work, or cellular?
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have a ping utility on the device (cmd.exe on Windows, Terminal.app on MacOS, various apps on mobile), and what happens if you ping one of those dns names?
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use the IP address to get here without fixing your DNS, which I'm guessing is how you're here now...it's not horrible to do it that way...while DNS is handy to remember and to let IP addresses update, since taht update takes propagation anyway, it's usually downtime either way
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can get the proper IP address from announcement note read 1268
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Bah, Protonmail should come up with a desktop app.
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Level Tech: does anyone here know if ViP Mud uses :: as a command seperator ?
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Level Tech: sorry i ment ;
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metria Tech: Never heard of it, sorry
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: did Durel figure out his issue?
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Not yet, I just got back and started thinking about it again
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so, I was looking at some of my scripts and I do something similar..
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not sure if it's different though..
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: instead of doing a cexit I have portals calling Mush aliases that use variables
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not sure why it would be different for a cexit
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Interesting
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: for example I call a mush alias called incrementValue and I pass an item ID (it increments a counter for that ID - counting usage of each of my chaos portals)
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I create the whole command when I create the portal (register the portal in the mapper)
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so each time I use the portal it calls incrementValue with its ID as part of the command to use it
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not sure why a similar trick wouldn't work with your cexits
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Hmm.  That might be interesting.  I didn't even think of that.  I use a script in all of my portals too that grabs a portal from a container specified by a variable.  Maybe I could extend that.
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: once you call a client alias, you can put anything in there (change the Send to "Script")
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: trick is to get the cexit to call your alias
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yep, I can get cexit to call a single alias, but it won't expand more than one.  Maybe I should have that one alias take in all of the commands I want to run as a string, parse the string, and run everything internally.  That should work.
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you can call other aliases by doing Execute("[command]")
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: in general
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: just make sure you're sending to script and not world
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if you send to script, you can always send to world using Send("[command]") or if you prefer SendNoEcho("[command]")
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: all my aliases are wrappers for functions in my scripts so I can call them directly if needed
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ohhh ok, yeah that would work then
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Or maybe I'll just hardcode the name of my container and move one to a more fun problem :P
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well I guess I don't understand what the hang up is
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if you got it to execute an alias, why can't you expand variables there?
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you want to launch multiple aliases or something?
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I basically want to have one alias (get something from a container specified by a variable), run a bunch of cexits commands, and then run a second alias (put the something back in the container specified by a variable).  
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: k, just do as the last command in the alias Execute([second alias name])
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I could do everything from the first alias, but it would involve parsing all of the cexit commands and running them individually
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I don't understand what you mean by parse
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you're sending like 4 commands and they're already in the alias
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: there's nothing to parse
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you're expanding some variables maybe
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: No, the commands would vary for each room based on what cexit needs there are for each room
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: the getItem and putItem aliases wrap around the commands that vary
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh.. so mapper is sending you a bunch of semi-colon separated commands?
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: basically
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I guess I'm not sure what advantage you're hoping to gain by redoing what the mapper does for you
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metria Tech: I'm trying hard to figure out what it is you're trying to do, and I just keep coming back to the thought that you're doing whatever it is you want to do wrong
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's quite possible :P
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Just a sec and I'll write out the specific details of what I'm trying to solve
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: be that as it may.. you're probably going to want to do this all in a function
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and just have the alias pass it through
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you'll want to look up how to split on a regex probably and expand any variables giving them special syntax so you know they need to be expanded
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: build the whole thing then resend it to server
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: how do i keep my touch from making the page scroll up
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: don't touch it!
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: cut off the guilty finger!!
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: phone client? I dunno anything about those :/
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I want to be able to have cexits in Giant's Pet Store that automagically get an ID from a container, do the commands to get the key, put the ID back in a container, and use the key for each of the locked rooms.  Easy peasy, right?  It's no problem if I hardcode the name of my container in the cexit.  That works just fine.  However, I don't like hardcoding the name in a cexit because it would break if I later change to a different container.  So my next step was to make the container name a variable, but cexits don't support variables directly.  So I next tried using an alias to get the item and a second alias to put it back.  That doesn't work because cexits only expand the first alias in the cexit commands.  I could split things (thanks Gorsk for the idea) to have one alias be client side and the other server side, but that feels a little kludgy too.  
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: don't like the keyring...?
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: ^
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metria Tech: .... Change container? Why would you just decide to do that?
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: do what we all do: buy a manor and have a manor container
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: so you don't lose your keys for months
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It happened to me last remort :)  I upgraded to a larger container.  It's not a big deal, I just fundamentally don't like hardcoding something in cexits that could potentially change
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so could you have an alias getKeyContainer * that gets key (*) from your current container? 
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and call that?
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I don't see why you need 2 aliases
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metria Tech: Yup, that'd work.
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yep, I can do that.  But I can't call an alias to put the item back
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: does one put it back? cuz that's still one alias
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: take key container put key container
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: same alias does both
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: No, take key container, do lots of room-specific cexit commands, put key container
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gallen Tech: or have a trigger that puts the key back after waiting x seconds
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: or buy a manor and put the key back when you return!!
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: the alias would also need to take all of the other commands too, which is why I mentioned parsing those internally and doing it all from one alias
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: or do this, take key container DoAfterSpecial(2, putKeyContainer, sendToExecuteConstant)
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I did that in my manor and lost my keys in the ice age a few days ago ;)  
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it creates a callback for 2 sec later and sends the 2nd command to whatever you want
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I use DoAfterSpecial for some things
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: so? you think it will save when they're on you?
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ah, that would work.  I could even take the number of seconds to delay as a param to the first alias.  I like it!
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yep, you could definitely do that
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan wildly high fives the air, looking very foolish -- very foolish indeed.
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: No, I don't expect keys to save :)  That's why I was looking for a cexit that would get them as needed
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I personally just get another copy of the key every time haha
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so I ended up with like 20 of the same key in my inv, but meh
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: to repeat gorsk question, why does the keyring not work for you
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Keys don't save and leaving them in my manor isn't safe either (although it is safer)
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: define safe, they are safe until a reboot
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: the last reboot was after like a 4 months of no-reboot time..
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: or crash
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: No, there was an ice age a few days ago that wiped them.  Not a big deal, but I don't want to rely on that.
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I think sometimes people just want to solve a problem that they come across too.. I've been there many times
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: different strokes for different folks, I personally still haven't adjusted to using the keyring.. I keep forgetting it exists
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: i still dont get it lol. Keys will purge on iceage whether or not they are in a container
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it's the principle!!!
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan screams loudly at himself!  Is there a full moon up?
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Oh, I think I understand the disconnect.  I'm not getting a key from the container.  I'm getting a pass that is necessary to get the key
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Specifically, the employee ID at Giant's Pet Store.  That saves.
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: that is fair then.
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You need to kill a mob to get that item so I can't have that in the cexit
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh, I missed that too
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I wonder what kind of a script he will need to make when he needs the key from mad priest derrick!!
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: when you said ID I thought you meant ID of the container
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan giggles.
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: passing an alias' name, or wildcard from a regex named group, to a function is probably the easiest way.
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: and then deal with local variables in your plugin, and you wont have to update cexits.
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: the way i do it is drop a container on my manor floor, type quit check, and everything that comes up goes into the container. no variables involved
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: yeah but for objects that act as keys, and are not type key
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I have an alias that automagically empties my keyring into a container and drops it in my manor too.  This is just a backup.  Also, I'm curious about how to solve it and that caught my attention :)
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: like a Yin-Yang Chakram, <-Pendant of Elemental Magic->, Open Invitation to Umari's Castle, an Odd Stone, a ring with a Painite crystal... the list goes on
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh fyi durel, the mapper cexit supports wait commands
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I didn't realize that for a while
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yep, I use the wait command in cexits sometimes
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Thanks everyone for your feedback.  Sorry for monopolyzing tech so long :)  I think I'll implement Yajan's suggestion to use DoAfterSpecial() now!
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: RawK!
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: the bill is already in the mail, Durel.
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: uh oh :(
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ohhh billed. sucks to be you!
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ack, how do I rename my char again?
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: don't you delete and recreate?
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: no, do not recreate to rename. Post a note to imm on personal.
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: No, sorry, that was a joke in response to you telling me you were sending a bill.  Sorry, my joke filter must be a little off tonight :)
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: oh, sorry :)
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: and my answer was in his being a joke.
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: Any way to fix S&D sending me to blood swamps in alagh continent instead of the anthrox rooms? (just example of treating continent as room)
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I think you have to do something if you're on a room campaign
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like tell it that it is one
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: I'm on a area cp
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: scratch that, it's room cp
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: how do i tell it?
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I don't use it but someone asked a couple days ago
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: dang tech only goes back 200 in history
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: umm maybe ask on question?
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: everyone uses the thing, so someone should know
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: will this command fix this specific occurence in the future? if it's just a workaround I might as well do the manual labour
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well it's a manual command you send when you do a campaign that is a room campaign I think
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it will be reset for your next campaign I believe
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: room campaigns aren't as often
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and the plugin has no way of knowing if it's a room or area cp
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it doesn't have any complex AI
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: meh. And this is the first time I see this. thx
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for a room-name campaign, all it can do is come up with rooms that match...and the rooms that it took you to matched...
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sometimes you've got to bother to think for yourself rather than just hit "nc"
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nx*
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh good idea, my scripts make me type "nex" I should shorten to "nx" to use my brain less
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: nice!
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: or for a room name or any kind of cp, use web page that shows area names and has links to maps and if  a mob is only vulnerable to certain type of attacks it tells you what they are
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan gives you a BIG high five!  Way to go!! 
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: http://campaigns.gaardian.com/index.php
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nx is an S&D command for next target
T3/r7/2017-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: when using 'mapper area x' and i click on a blue link to goto it... how do I make it open doors along the way? Do I use cexit 'door/direction/keyword' then semi-colon, direction or just the open part?
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cexit op n ;; n
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out http://abelinc.me/mapper and http://abelinc.me/hosch for some good info on using the mapper
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: for doors you need to make your exit with open direction;;direction but don't forget about custom exits too. those also need to be mapped, for example going to chess 
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: ok so this one is keyword "darkness" so I would, mapper cexit open darkness ; down (its a down exit)
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: with 2 semi-colon
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: that is correct
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: kk, i gotta get used to the double semi-colon hehe
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You don't need two semicolons.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: oh?
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Start the line with a semi-colon, and you only need one.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: so: ;tech blah blah blah; blah ; blah blah ;
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: what is the semi-colon at the front for?
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It escapes every semi-colon after it.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So you can do tech blah ;;, or you can do ;tech blah blah ;
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: ok! so both methods perform the same action
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yep, except if you start with a semi-colon, then you won't need to double up every other semi-colon, so it saves you keystrokes or faulty memory.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Very helpful if you're copying a speedwalk.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: ahhh i get it, thanks for the tip
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: In the first advances of Skynet... Google's AI becomes aggressive when cornered.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne wants Google AI to play Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: that would be cool! not so much if it went PK
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I bet you Google AI would be t9 in a week.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: na, it'd get nuked for botting
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: we'd nuke it within the day :>
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers with Gorsk about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The name GoogleAi is available for use.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anaristos looks for Arcidayne to see if he would do it.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nah, not gonna create it or rename. :P
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rumour Tech: Did someone say rename?
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: hard to stay under the radar with a name like that 
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: to googleai, rums :)
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne grins evilly.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Amusingly, my college nickname was Google.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: really? Google is already in use by a player.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: now we know
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anaristos goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I was called Google because I scored 100% on nearly all my exams, and had an answer for every question thrown at me. I was also nicknamed Alien, too, for having superpowers like eidetic memory in my studies.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: handy traits :)
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: i have a superb memory when it comes to recalling things like conversations, lectures, music, basically anything auditory... but I think that's cause I am always listening. (was born mute)
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: interesting! if only all mutes had that privelegie
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: I'd imagine its not uncommon, most conversations aren't PersonA talks then PersonB talks... people like to interrupt each other and often times that completely side-tracks the discussion.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: is there a plugin to show item score from inv?
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: try compare itemslot containers
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: how can i change $str = %concat("[Name] LIKE '%", $room, "%'")  to the "=" version?
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: to not use the LIKE option, just the specified name
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Energia Tech: how can i change $str = %concat("[Name] LIKE '%", $room, "%'") to the specific name version using "=" ?
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: any way to put color on a specific channel?
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: you mean like change the color of the entire channel?
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: Anyway I think you mean the Colorset command.  You can a lot there
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: I get an error on blowtorch, No address associated with hostname. could use some advice
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: have you tried the new hostname?
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: which one
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: umm that's were i run out of info too
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: aardwolf.net port 23 and 4000 are errors he told me. What other ports are there 
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: aardmud.org used to work, not sure if it has been re-aimed at the new server yet
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amigan Tech: thought it was aardmud.org?
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amigan Tech: ah
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I seedm to be using aardmud.org on port 23
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: ping says they point to same ip
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: which is that one
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duckbat Tech: 23.111.136.202 (not the one in "help address")
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: that one worked
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: woooo 
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: thanks a bunch
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Yep, that is what I resolve
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: any way to make spouse channel different colour?
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: Colorset 
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FirstBlade Gladacus nods.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: colourset/colourset
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: same command as any other channel XD
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: epic tankz
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: I wish I could figure out why my mush keeps blowing up... 2nd time in a few weeks all.. first time it was so bad it wouldnt even load this time all plugins crashed cept S&D and minimap
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: first time was aftera comp crash... no idea why this time
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: only outside plugins I use are S&D and winkwinkles spellup
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Does such a plugin exist to ignore potentially offensive socials such as fapping?
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: is there a good equipment management plugin? Something that can make the eqsearch upgrades a little smoother
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: what would said plugin do?
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: how would you want it to be smoother?
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: Anything would help. At best it would contain a database of all items and which room and vendor/mob carries them. At worst a separate window so you can easily compare the names to the vendor list. :)
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: when you say compare the names.. you mean the names of the items you are wearing already?
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I guess I'm a little lost on your use case
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I imagine you already know about the eqsearch command?
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: No, lets take an example. When I reach level 181, eqsearch all has 10+ new items to recommend. I can go to each area listed there, but I have to keep writing "eqsearch all" and "list" because it is so much text. Having "eqsearch all" output in a different window would be sweet.
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I see
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I guess I usually don't use eqsearch all, I use eqsearch [wear slot]
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: since I only fill one slot at a time
T3/r7/2017-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: AFAIK, there's no plugin that does what you're saying
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: If I am adding cexits to an area... do I have to add it on both sides of a door to get it to work in both directions?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Comfy Anaristos Tech: you could make each side independent by making it one way. Either is a way to do it.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ya
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I only both if I know I'm going to need to go the other way
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: bother*
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Comfy Anaristos Tech: technically cexits are one way. You'll find that the return is another cexit.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: Ok thx
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Comfy Anaristos Tech: you don't have to carry the reality to your map, though :)
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: Huh?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Comfy Anaristos Tech: you can implement the cexit in your map anyway it works best for you as long as it gets you to where you are supposed to go.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Comfy Anaristos Tech: the map is not the thing :)
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: im just asking cause I didnt know if I was wasting my time by adding an exit every time my mapper has to stop and when im doing that I add the reverse exit before continuing on
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: in the case that, i might in the future have to make one - i'd rather make it now when im doing it already
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Comfy Anaristos Tech: well, one way to implement a cexit to a room that has a return cexit is as two-way exit. You can also make the entry and exit into and from the room independent.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Comfy Anaristos Tech: after all, you have to enter a string at either end
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: I didnt see any options for making a two-way exit in mapper help exits, is that not a typed command?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Comfy Anaristos Tech: now I am way out of my depth, I don't use the aard mush :)
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: and now im just confused since I assumed we were speaking the same language and I took what you said as if the same was true... lol
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: ill just keep doing what ive been doing lol
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: there's no such thing as a two way exit, you make one cexit to "open door;e" and another cexit for "open door;w"
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you make the one from the first room and the second from the other room
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Comfy Anaristos Tech: well, I don't see it either so maybe one-way is the only way.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: a cexit is registered to a particular room
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Comfy Anaristos Tech: right, one-way both ways.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so you can't be in one room and make the exit for the other room
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Comfy Anaristos Tech: i would assume you create the cexit use it and then create the return cexit
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: right, that's how it's normally done
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: and thats what i was doing, so i'll keep doing it heh. thanks for at least clarifying it Yajan
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: No problem.. I think Anaristos was saying the same thing.. just in a different way
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: For the mapper cexit, if I need to add a delay what would be the proper command so it doesn't wait 2 seconds and then fail if I need it to wait say 5 seconds?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: mapper cexit wait(5);;command
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: awesome thanks! i was mistakenly putting it after the command!
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: either works, just depends on where you want the pause ;)
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: Oh, and i forgot the () :p
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: actually, that's for the speedwalk. for mapping the exit: mapper cexit_wait <seconds>
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: that works as well
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: more than one way to get a cat out of it's fur :)
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: doesn't the first one add the wait to the speedwalk?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: Ok so in the Necromancer's Guild. I need to kill the zombie to be transported. How would I map that cexit for future use in speedwalking?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: I had issues with mapping due to a laggy connection, and I used the second. the actual speedwalk didn't need the wait
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: iirc, that'd be illegal?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: you don't. you can't automate a kill command
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: Aarladil: don't use that in a speedwalk
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: I need the delay for the "down" part, not the kill part
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: do the goal, you'll get a command to get to that part
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: since Pick Lock isnt reliable
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: what did (admittedly in cmud) was use a trigger to get me "transported" on the mapper.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: if you don't mind a bit of lag, put in more than one pick lock
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: or... do the goal :)
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: even doing the goal a trigger for transportation works well.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: is this in the graveyard or necromancer guild?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: Nocens: I am asking for the purpose of knowing how to do it. Not circumvent the need to in this specific case. There may be other scenarios and I don't have my answer. The necromancer guild area was an example I have for now.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: Zhalut, necro guild
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: there are many situations where you can trigger on an event to get transported. Umari is another classic example, or kearvek, for instance. where the mob issues a specific string when you are transported so you can use that to trigger a location update on the map.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: is that goal reward the one that allows you to say crypt?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: Aarladil: it is technically possible to add a kill command to speedwalk. it wouldn't work, in that case, since the dragging into the grave is random, and the kill command will break the speedwalk anyway
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Comfy Anaristos Tech: well, it would be illegal to add a kill command to the speedwalk.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: but you can add those goal provided commands to speedwalks. for example, in kingsholm, the 'next' commands in the seals
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: Ok I get that. Thanks for the goals tip I will investigate and complete it. Though I'll likely return to ask this same question when I come across the next scenario that I might find the answer useful.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lili Tech: my monitor is messed up,I cannot see red like my health,or a lot of other things like when i type score,Is there a way to turn everything to black and white so i can see it all? using mush client
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lili Tech: i cant even see tech when it shows up after i write it,and my text appears blue
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lili Tech: there is sometyhing wrong with my monitor,i fixed the colors so i can see everything in the chat box,but the red the shows my health is gone,the box below the map in aardmush doesnt show any of the names like gold hp mana,only the numbers,anyone know how i can change that
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: right click on it and change some settings?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lili Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: as last resort I guess you could use "resetaard" but that will reset more windows to default setting
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: alright boiz looking for more generic computer upgrade advice: are any brands other than Intel/Samsung good for SSDs?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Anyone who uses the term "boiz" is not worthy of a computer upgrade.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: oh snap
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded looks at Arcidayne with a pout on his face.  What is he, six?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: chaps?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: comrades?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: this is 21th century. you cant exclude women
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I do not consider the term "boiz" to be gender specific
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: you can exclude women, you just shouldn't...
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm just trying to turn my PC from 2009 into something more viable for today :( going from a SSD on my laptop back to an HDD on my PC has been painful.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: Hard Drive, Ram, Processor.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: CPU has held up pretty well, i7 920
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: what do you have against those brands that you already named ?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: they're more expensive than other ones and I'm cheap
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: you get what you pay for.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: if you use computer often it's worth saving up and buying a higher quality item even if it's more expensive
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if I was buying SD or MicroSD I'd go Kingston, just not sure if their SSDs hang with Intel/Samsung. definitely not buying some no name brand.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: there are stress charts somewhere
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: intel wasnt the best i remember
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: but i have intel right now and it has been fine for 1.5 years now
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kroden Tech: From my experience the Empire makes the best Super Star Destroyers, but I haven't really done a lot of comparsions with other SSDs
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Kroden.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Googling stress charts now
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: I've had no problems with my OCZ Agility 4 SSD. It has been running for 5 years now, computer on 24/7 more or less. Hm, I feel I'm jinxing it now...
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: well, technically the Geonosians or whatever came up with them...
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded gasps as he realizes what Tolman did.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treserva Tech: I have a question about mapper extender addon - I get this error message when trying to use xrunto :"
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treserva Tech: Alias function "xrun_to" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treserva Tech: anyone here know about this winkle winkle thingie? :)
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: reload/reinstall
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: you will have to go back to the first error
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treserva Tech: what is the first error?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: sometimes happens when you open and close MUSH, a load order issue maybe.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: reload and find out
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treserva Tech: same error still :( when I use the abbreviated "xrt" I get a longer error: Run-time error ....:"
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: are you using nokfah's fixed version? if not finger nokfah for a link
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treserva Tech: reinstalling doesnt seeem to work. Is there some alias I need for the mapper extender to work?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treserva Tech: cool thx i will try that
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lili Tech: the backround of my mushclient is white,how do i change the backround color?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Zoot Tech: game -> configure -> custom colors -> ansi colors then make the top one that says background black
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lili Tech: the backround of my mushclient is white,how do i change the backround color?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: Dormammu, I've come to bargain!
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You've come to die!
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NeKRed Nibir Tech: Any good clients for mac?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ticonderoga Tech: What are you using now?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I just run mushclient under wine on mac.  It has "quirks" but it mostly does the job.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NeKRed Nibir Tech: its not for me
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ticonderoga Tech: Yeah, I was about to suggest MUSHclient under Wine
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NeKRed Nibir Tech: I use mush and love it, I passed along the info
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Why not teach your friend to ask their own questions? :p
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Maybe the friend needs a client before they can ask questions :P
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ticonderoga Tech: Arcidayne, huh?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You don't need a client to connect to Aardwolf, Durel. :p
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You absolutely need a client =p even if its a telnet client
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ticonderoga: Was talking to Nibir, kind of jesting. Why play messenger when your friend can ask themselves, or if they don't know how to, teach!
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: LOL.  You got me :)
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: telnet is a client...
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, I suppose the flash connect on the web page is a client.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Nah I type my packets by hand
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Because you can connect via Aardwolf's web page through it's "client" :P
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: what do you use to send them mendy?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He uses pigeons.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I type packets by hand too.  Then I give them to Nibir to pass them to aard
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: the latency must be insane
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne cackles gleefully at Durel.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NeKRed Nibir Tech: For all the wise asses out there, The flash player from aardwolf.com does not work all  the time from all computers
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NeKRed Nibir Tech: Trying to help a friend be able to reach aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NeKRed Nibir Tech: which they were struggling to do before now
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ticonderoga Tech: Nibir, That's because Flash sucks
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No one was being a wiseass, really. :P
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Derputy] Aesop Tech: I just might be that friend.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Derputy] Aesop Tech: maybe
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NeKRed Nibir Tech: Oh I get it, but "teaching my friends to ask questions" was no the problem
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I didn't say it was. ;)
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Derputy] Aesop Tech: Im just over this telnet already
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Telnet sucks.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NeKRed Nibir Tech: hense the question, he's on a mac, help him get a client set up
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: PUTTy is a better client than telnet. :P
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ticonderoga Tech: Can you see what you are typing in PUTTy? I know what it is, but am not familiar with it.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I believe you can.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Been ages since I've used it.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if it's partly broken, they don't fix it, they sell a proprietary upgrade
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ticonderoga Tech: Changing topics to Apple, I see?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ah, the inane dribble of Xyliz I haven't seen in forever. Curses.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or zMud =p
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: what about this tin-tin, i was using that for a bit back when i had a mac ?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As a side note, you can use 'help www' to list other possible clients, and some will specifically say what OS.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Mac has TinTin, mudlet, Tinyfugue, Atlantis, and used to have Rapscallion on there.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ticonderoga Tech: And of course, under Wine, you may do more.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Those are native to Mac, anyway.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ticonderoga Tech: Yeah, native...
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: I put Mapper Cexit into an alias, but it has stopped accepting anything after semicolons. e.g. mc open e;;e = mc open e. I put it on send to execute to make the alias work at all, but I guess I need more tweaks?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Show us your alias.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: mc * = mapper cexit %1
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I have a sneaky suspicion you need to double up  your semicolons, which removes pretty much all the usefulness of that alias
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I have one for each direction... myd for example Mapper cexit d;d works like a charm
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: 2 semicolons though
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: mc open w;;;;w works! thx. I will however switch to ontuct's brighter idea :)
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: mapper open down(semi semi)down
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: this is the one i use for doors mapper cexit open %1;;%1
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: then just can do mc * for all directions
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: it took only a few mins to set them up for each of the six directions, and I manually add the odd ones.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: %1 twice?
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Oh, duh, nevermind. Sorry, i was thinking something else.
T3/r7/2017-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: does anyone know about blowtorch? mainly why my settings would keep getting lost and i'm unable to import anything, it just closes out
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: Is there a way to add a "con" level to a bprompt that shows con of current target?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: when making cexits, does the wait(*) command still work? mine just throws a "unknown command" error
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: you mean wait(5) ? sure it does
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: oops realised i drop a semicolon. thanks!
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: typical lawl.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Looking to hire someone to implement a diff algorithm to compare two XML documents in c#. Paying real $$... send a tell if interested.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: what you mean by compare? 
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: zhang sansha would be fine, i just don't have time to work on it
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: take two XML files as inputs, spit out something that says "this was added, this was deleted" etc
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: so you means something like patch -Naur xml1 xml2
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: anyone seen Fiendish lately?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: err not patch, diff
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: yes, need a c# implementation... i have a program I need to add this to already written
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: or some way to run it from that program, once a second, all the time
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: i dont really care how it gets done
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I know almost nothing about c#, but "The XML Diff and Patch GUI Tool" (https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa302295.aspx) seems to be similar to what you want achieve
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Yeah it has some problems that prohibit using it for this unfortunately, I spent some time with it already
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Just my opinion - C# and .NET are screwed sideways.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus holds his thumb up at nothing in particular.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: go will replace them, and Java.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I have to believe the people that use it know how to do make it purr
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tomblack mews softly.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: yes, on the current platform the MS will obsolete before you can say jack shit
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: go finally has a GUI toolkit in development...
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: haven't heard of go, ergo, it's not as big as you think
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: a drop in an ocean of languages
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: who want's to play chineese go?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tomblack exclaims "ARR!" and makes an intimidating face.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I am so tired of my IA guys saying "You have to upgrade" and my software people saying "But we coded to .NET x.y.z, now we have to recompile and redistribute." F that
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm so tired of people upgrading things that don't need it :P
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: blame the profiteering gluttons...
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: if you haven't heard of go...well...kind of places you on the programming level.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well it's usually internal numbskulls
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: who buy in to these support contracts that they have to stay on the major version to have valid
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: and the gubermental idjits
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: next you're gonna tell me you haven't heard of git...or don't use it...
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: SVN is still aight, GIT is fine too.. there's really not that many differences to make GIT as standard as everyone claims it is
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: And you have never developed on a network disconnected from the internet
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: go is 14th
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: you should watch Linus' google talk on that.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I wouldn't use go as a reference for programming knowledge :)
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: why would you develop disconnected from the internet?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: are you in a military bunker?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not really a realistic use case imo
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Everyone should be
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh cool, that makes sense
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: you don't have to use go, but if you've never heard of it...
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: it's like not know LISP...
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: there are more differences between svn and git than online/offline
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, the methodology for things is different
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but they accomplish the same goal
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: comparing git and svn is mind boggling, it's like comparing a cell phone to clay tablets...
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if you need to make something that's not dramatic at all seem dramatic to make a point, yeah totally
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I just use Word's track changes feature!
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it's source control.. let's move on to something that actually matters
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I use path and diff...but at least I know 'of' git.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Source control is trivial. COTS update management and the interaction with your code base is not.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: lets put it this way, since linus is the one that started it: it would be pretty much impossible to develop the kernel using svn
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: if you don't think source control is important...
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: the distributed part is what matters, not the ability to work offline
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I've never had a use case where not using GIT made a difference
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: that's just a bonus
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so maybe for Linus, it's a requirement, for me and the other 85% of devs, could give a turd less
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: you can't be a professional programmer, nothing wrong with that...it's just...like a plumber without a monkey wrench...
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: IMPORTANT, but trivially simple. those tools are years old and poorly advanced
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: bigger problems. If you made your career out of source control - retire
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: pretty much, git is the end.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: git is nirvana for scm.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: you guys all sounds really smart, anyone want to actually implement this thing and make some money? :P
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: money? I like money...
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: mmmm
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: i shall fix it!
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: actually, there are more nirvanas. but yes, distributed scm is the way. pick one of the list
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Makin' it now Quad
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: woo
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: i offer a donation of $25,000 of quadrapus's rl money
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: omg
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: sorry not enough, i offer a donation of $100,000 of quadrapus's rl money
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: what are we implementing Quad?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Put a 10 X on that and fish
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: he was prolly thinking a $10 dollar panera gift card, but i'm generous with his money
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: what are you implementing?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: An scm for his dreams
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: in c# no doubt.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: with a .NET framework
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: does it have agile?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: No women will work with him
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I think we should scrum and discuss action items with stake holders.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I want an Awesome Demo here next week!
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Capabilities: 1) Embarass originator - accomplished 2) Set Impossible schedule - aqccomplished 3) Break for coffee - In Work
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: magnificent.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: it's like art...living art.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone else use BluMalice's eq plugin?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: whats that
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: AKA: Masaki EQualizer
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it auto equips eq sets when you level
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'll take that as a "probably not"
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: sounds nice
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I like it, had a couple quirks that annoyed me
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I fixed them in my version.. just not sure if there's a demand to send out my patch of it
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: i use bast's eqdb/eqsets but it doesnt autoswitch (as far as I know)
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: there's still some quirks that I'm not 100% sure how to iron out
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: could always throw it on github
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: or submit a pull request if its hosted in a public repo
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: could.. it's just a single .xml though.. may as well just put it on my dropbox ;)
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: aye thatd do
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: any way to make youtube not autoplay some crappy album I don't like?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I thought downvoting it would make a difference
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I was wrong
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Turn off autoplay?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I like autoplay in general :(
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: "How do I make this not do that?"  "Turn off that."  "But I like that!"
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers with Birdbrain Metria about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: lol, anyone can break something they don't like
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Youtube doesn't know what you consider to be "crappy". It's not Pandora, either. :p
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I don't think it's wrong to want to change something slightly
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Derputy] Aesop Tech: Ok ladies.  How do I run this wine to mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Derputy] Aesop Tech: Not tech savvy at all, so I need the dumbed down version.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarladil Tech: what wine?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: love being called a lady before I help someone
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Derputy] Aesop Tech: You love being called a lady at anypoint of time.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: Install wine and required packages.  Then click on mush client.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sirene Tech: I'm running that config now.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if my motherboard supports 24GB RAM, and has 6 slots for RAM, does that mean I'm limited to 4GB per stick? or would 3x8GB sticks work
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I should offer TPs for my dumb upgrade questions
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: what's a motherboard?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: go with the 4
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: is there a fatherboard?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no TPs for Yajan
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Honestly, the best choice is to look up your mainboard's manual and find out exactly what it eats when it comes to memory
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ugh, I can't say the F bomb on this channel
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but no that I'm thinking it
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: know*
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: more sticks means more pins to send info to, with three sticks your giving your processors less pins
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: thats the drunk an low brow way of putting it :p
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: 3x works..
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: sure it works, just not as efficient
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm just trying to figure out my options at this point. I wasn't sure if I installed 3x8GB if it would give me 24GB or 12GB
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You'll want to install it in banks. Find out what your board takes, most frequently you'll see it in pairs
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: are you sure about the 24 gb though?  I've a mobo from 2011 which is now extinct and supports 32gb
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: mobo is from 2009
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I don't know if >4GB sticks existed when this was made, so the manual just says the lower end of what it doesn't support
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What's the make & model of the board?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ford fiesta
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Intel X58
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: 4gb was around in 2009
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: nod, I'm thinking I should stick with 4GB sticks just in case.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Ok, so that's triple-channel. You'll want to install chips in sets of three.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I was leaning toward using two dual-channel 4GBs. the board supports it, and I know some boards will run the triple channel like that.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: I've a mobo with 3x mem slots too but I have no problem when using 1 or 2 either..
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the board can do 2, 3, 4, or 6 sticks. I just think I have more options with dual channel than triple channel. plus 3x4GB seems too low, 6x4GB seems too expensive :p
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: do you really need 24gb ram anyways?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: that's the real question
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I do not. that's why I wanted to do 3x4GB
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: err 4x4GB
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: I am using 2x4 and never seen the computer change to hard disk caching..
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Open a web browser.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I found that I sit usually at about 8 GB and 22 while working on projects, lol 32 is easy to eat up
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: right now I've got 3x2GB and I'm pushing it
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: well, I trust Metria the most here, because he has proper grammar. so I'll stick with triple channel.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: good capitalization, strong punctuation
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That manual is really poorly written :/
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it is
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: all I got out of it as far as memory goes is: don't use 1 or 5 sticks, don't use <256MB sticks.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's what I got too.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It also says you can use 1 and 2 GB DIMMS
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deviox Tech: Hey, I just installed the MAG scripts for my client, Mudlet, and I've got alot of blank space on the bottom.  Is there any way I can fix that?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: alright Metria, so would you stick with triple channel or double up on dual channel?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: "They" say triple-channel provides the best performance but benchmarks are conflicting. I'd just get whatever suits your wallet at this point.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You may have some trouble getting support for Mudlet, it's not very common around here I'm afraid
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deviox Tech: I see.  I actualy managed to figure out what happened.  Forgot to type in a command.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Oh, sweet. :)
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deviox Tech: though, as a question, if I were to hop onto my phone to play tomorrow (While totaly not working) would I have to figure out how to disable it or something?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Disable what?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deviox Tech: Better put, will I have to put in a bunch of commands when moving from my PC to my Phone?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Maybe? It depends on what your PC client has set up, and what works for me may not work for you because of different setup
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deviox Tech: I see, thanks anyway.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deviox Tech: off
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deviox Tech: Err, now I've gotta figure out how to turn off this chat...
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Just type 'tech' by itself.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: try tech without parameters :)
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deviox Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: is there any way to make my prompt coloured if qt is 0?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you could... but would you want to?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Not using in game commands - don't think there is a way to do conditional formatting.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: sounds like a chore- will just look more carefully then 
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you could capture your prompt with a trigger and if the quest timer portion of it is 0 then color it a different color
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Or can download a miniwindow or something for quests if on Mushclient.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but you'd be capturing it continuously to check
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I usually use "quest info" on tick
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and that will have a special message if you can quest now
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you can capture that and output something so you notice immediately
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: i see, sounds doable!
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: lots of little tricks
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: may want to add an extra trigger for that message when it's not 0 and omit from output though
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: will get really annoying otherwise
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: just make sure to enable/disable that trigger before you send quest info and disable after so you don't omit the output from a quest info you send yourself
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: got it
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: also, for lower maintenance there's a way to turn on information on the tick display itself
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: which includes quest timer
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so you can just color that if it matches some regex
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: man looking up memory for a specific motherboard sucks :( h81m-e34 newegg doesn't seem to have the supported ones ::(
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: "tick" to turn on additional information
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and "autotick" if you're not already seeing it..
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: just looking to upgrade a darn computer a little, lol
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyone really saavy with DNS stuff? need some help setting some stuff up, never really done it before and google is not helping me
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What about DNS?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: what are you trying to setup? I have always just used my hosts options.
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LeafGuider Waker Tech: whats the command to reset mush's windows to defult position?
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LeafGuider Waker Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYnuSsM7tRw
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T72znBD3xoI
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1215 Magna points to the Music channel over there ----->
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: gossip hey hang on a sec, the aliens are not done... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tznoCmVkmXc
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: well then...
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: gossip V.I.P's only
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Seriously?
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: hey hang on a sec, the aliens are not done... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tznoCmVkmXc
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Please, alias tech for gossip if you're going to be "mischanneling" this much.
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Never mind. Problem solved.
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomblack Tech: ya seriously...
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone know a trick to not have lines that are omitted from output still create blank new lines send to main window?
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sent*
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: onpluginlinereceived ?
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: so im not very handy with DNS zones, and i have been following tutorials online on setting up multiple zones for ngnix but things are still going awry, like im getting 403 errors now, and logs just say forbidden, not sure where to take it from this point
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check server logs ? or increase verbosity
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i honestly dont know anymore, i have been working on just DNS since last night, i normally do not have to deal with it
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: anyone else getting lag spikes now?
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fravardin shakes his head.
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anagantios declares the academy a waste of time, then asks how the hell do you play this mud anyway?!
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: with no pictures its hart to pretend its a game
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WolfSkin Tech: What settings should I use to get mushclient to auto log me in on start (or does the server not support it as of now?)?
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: wolfskin if you are using mush. press alt-enter and check connection .. you should set your login info there
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: or alt-2 directly to get you there
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WolfSkin Tech: I did that and it turns out I typoed which caused me to error and ask here about the settings. Thanks anyway :)
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WolfSkin Tech: it now says: That name is not usable. Please try another.
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: is your connect setting diku style?
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WolfSkin Tech: I was trying mush/moo. I'll try diku and report back
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: there is your problem.. this is diku style connection
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: login that is
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WolfSkin Tech: works now, thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: train
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: mis*
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: run-time error Plugin: Aaardwolf_GMCP_mapper (called from world : Aardworl) Function/Sub: OnPluginBroadcast called by Plugin Aardwolf_GMCP_Mapper Reason: Executing plugin Aardwolf_GMCP_Mapper sub OnPluginBroadcast [string "Plugin"]:846: table rooms has no column named date_added l
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: you have an old db/outdated plugin?
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hmmm kk
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it's a friend, but I'll ask their version
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Just update to Nokfah's S&D.
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Finger Nokfah for the version.
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it's not S&D, it's the mapper
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Uh, the mapper database automatically resolves itself, so your plugin is what's messed up then.
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The most notable plugin that used that partciular field was S&D.
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hmmmmmm
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: k
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But it looks like you have a different GMCP mapper plugin, based on the name...
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Unless you typed it in yourself.
T3/r7/2017-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Aaardwolf? Aardworl?
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: im looking for someone good with photoshop, need some content created, tried on gos, trying here now in hopes to get someone with that channel off
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuli Tech: How do I copy my mapper data to another MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I think it is the aardwolf.db in the main directory. 
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuli Tech: Do I just copy and replace it in the system files?
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yes, I think so. And that only moves over any rooms added + cexits + notes. Not some other things that are stored in other plugins
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuli Tech: I'll try that, thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: I'm in Archipelago of Entropy and I've triple checked the cexit path to the room Inkwell, but at area entrance it still says could not find path within 300 rooms blabla. Could this be a bug?
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: mine works just fine
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: some of your cexits are just not working
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: does it properly shown on mapper thisroom?
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: afterall, entropy has only 50 explorable rooms :)
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: mapper find knows the room. I'll check for missing normal directions.
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: I was missing a staircase. My bad.
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WolfSkin Tech: What mushclient version is aardwolf based on?
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: before there was mushclient there was aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Currently, it's v5.03, but I think it started around 4.92.
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Somewhere around that area.
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WolfSkin Tech: ok, I asked because 5.05 doesn't like the plugins
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmm, don't see why not.
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: are you using the mushclient from here: http://www.aardwolf.com/downloads/Aardwolf-Mud-MUSHclientr1825.zip ?
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: When I was a boy, we used Zmud, and we liked it.
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That version is antiquated.
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Current version that comes with its own installer is 1887.
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: back in my day, telnet was advanced. didn't even have to type program the connection. techmowogee
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i use 5.03 and don't have any plugin problems. Also, I stick to the version in the link displayed in Fiendish's finger
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: where do you get 1887?
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Finger Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: I used to log in through undernet iRC chat.
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: the link i provided was from here: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: PNS syndrome
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I know. That site hasn't been updated with the current version, and is several versions behind. In all fairness, that was the last "stable" version, though they've all been pretty stable.
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i use r1797 :)
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WolfSkin Tech: I'll try finger's one then, I originally tried the bare 5.05 from the mushclient forums and trid to use the old plugins
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: no player named finger!
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WolfSkin Tech: https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: What's the command to get GMCP to send out char data?
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: My thingum to calculate % of max hp keeps complaining that maxhp is nil :<
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: protocol gmcp sendchar
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Comfy Anaristos Tech: the info in gmcp.char.* should always be fresh.
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Are you using status, or vitals?
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: status has max values, vitals does not.
T3/r7/2017-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: Yup noted- okie sorted it :) thanks
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyone really use the laravel framework? just had a couple quick questions of someone who has used it
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: wondering if anyone can help...I normally use tethering but today when I wanted to connect , it kicks out that there's an issue with the local area connection . . .  
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: I even installed and reinstalled it's driver
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: is there a way to differential between singe,double and tripple home brewed pots?
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: i've tried put 'inco inco' bag for double brews but it still picks singles too
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: So, this is BS. A friend of mine is disabled and lives in kind of a community place for people who can't get jobs because of their disability. The place decided to ban Steam completely, so my friend cannot get updates on his games. I'm trying to think of ways I could help him out. Does anyone have any ideas on where I could start with setting up some kind of tunnel or proxy for him so that he could hook into steam through me?
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: I have a good connection and a linux box.
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trickle of Bludi Tech: - that's tough, but couldn't u just use the wifi off a phone as a hot spot - just to get the updates?
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: i don't think he can afford a phone, although it -might- be possible for him to get someone else to briefly let him use theirs
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: let me check
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trickle of Bludi nods.
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: that could burn through a lot of data, yeah?
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: yeah, i cautioned him on that
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: someone would need unlimited wifi
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: i have a trigger in mushclient with  this line that works GetVariable(LNum)  but when I try with a different vairable i get  bad argument #1 to 'GetVariable' (string expected, got nil)
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Because GetVariable is getting MUSH variables, and requires a string.
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: but it works for one of my triggers, that's what is so confusing
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Proper syntax would be GetVariable("LNum"), but that's if you have a variable CALLED LNum defined in MUSHclient, no Lua.
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Just because something "works" doesn't mean it's right.
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: too true
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: i wonder if it is because the an alias to enable that trigger explicitly saves the value as a number while i set the other oen via the itnerface
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: EIther way, you need GetVariable("varname")
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you're not saving the variable across sessions, then you don't need to Get/Set variables.
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: my aliases and triggers aren't in plugins so between trigger calls i do need get and set, don't I?
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Again, not if you're not saving the variables across sessions.
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you want the data for future reference when you quit, then use Set/Get. Otherwise, just use Lua varaibles.
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: ooh that will make writing stuff so much easier
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: will test it out after doubles
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Several of my triggers don't use MUSH variables because I'm not saving them for future use.
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: or i have to learn how to write my stuff as plugins. seems so much cleaner
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, Plugins are useful if you're planning on sharing it with anyone, or you want an easier interface to modify once it's been set up.
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Also, with Plugins, it's a bit easier to add to script files, but not required.
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: Arcidayne you are a genius thanks. this makes life so much easier
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: slyblade so, I assume you're VI player, do you use MUSH client? and if so - are you capable of installing new plugins?
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Would it be impossible to make a zmud to mush-converter?
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Well... Zmud to LUA really
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Is there a way to make Mushclient (the window) blink when its time to quest?
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trivial Rhuli Tech: Has anyone had any luck porting a mush install from Win 7 to Win 10?  I copied the entire install, which probably isn't the best.
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: ive copied my mush folder from my win10 to my win 7 and it works fine
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: aardmush works for me out of the box...just copied the files
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trivial Rhuli Tech: Hmmm.  Definitely not woking for me from 7 to 10.
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: just made sure all plugins and such are in the aard plugins folder and nothing is pointing elsewhere
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: works for me
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trivial Rhuli Tech: Okay.  Must be a local thing then.
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: where do I find mapper ninja?
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: can't remember if hadar had that
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: anyone got autoquaffer plugin/link somewhere
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: abe has one in his site
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: is it legal?
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: have you met abe?
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: as long as you are at your keyboard
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: if you idle with it, in an aggro room, it's illegal
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: how do you see a room number?
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: using S&D tripple pack
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: try command mapper this room
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: mapper thisroom or you can turn it on in GMCP mapper. neither are part of S&D, just normal maper.
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: click asterisk on GMCP mapper window then toggle Show Room ID
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanguin Tech: any linux and mudlet users online i can quiz?
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanguin Tech: Not getting the aardwolf GUI (mag) to show the status and stats windows.
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: Hi lovely tech people!
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: I got a question.
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}C= Amigan Tech: did you copy and paste the init command from the wiki?
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanguin Tech: Yeah, any harm is doing it again?
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanguin Tech: did it again and it worled!
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanguin Tech: Good shout!
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}C= Amigan Tech: Great :)
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanguin Tech: Many thanks ;
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: I just got the aardmush client installed (thankfully) anyone know how to change text size?
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: Ctrl+G > Output > Font
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: you rock, thank you
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: took me forever to figure out wine, but yay
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: what does this little piece of code do in fiendish's scripts? dofile (GetPluginInfo (GetPluginID(), 20) .. "aardwolf_colors.lua")
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: loads the colors functions
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's really just a trick to get a directory in order to find the file
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GetPluginID() gets the current plugin's ID...field 20 of GetPluginInfo() is the plugin's directory...so it's using GetPluginID to get "this plugin's ID", in order to do GetPluginInfo (This Plugin's ID, field 20)
T3/r7/2017-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: got some ?'s about bast eq plugin
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyone use visual studio code, and know if there is a way to keep it 100% up to date with the server, at the moment im using phpstorm, but sometimes it falls behind with the server and i have to sync, which takes like an hour or so
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: in Lua, how do I send a command immediately after connecting? Is there a function ? Do I just have to trigger off "############# Reconnecting to Game #############"
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: via a plugin?
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yep, via a plugin. I want to send a command to Aardwolf then store its results in a variable
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: can do it onConnect i think its called
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: weird OnConnect didn't work
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I think you are right that it is OnPluginConnect but for some reason it isn't sending the command to the game
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: function OnPluginConnect() Send("say hi") end  .. should work, no?
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: anyone play on ios?
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay why would a computer stop you from downloading thing like the mush client
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: operating system? 
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay ignorant here can you explain
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: what operating system are you running?
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: windows is that the operateing system
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: what version?
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: 7
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: any anti-virus / anti-spyware installed? are you on a corporate network attached to a domain?
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: i will kill my cuz later he ddownloaded some new anti virus spyware software sigh
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: should be able to just turn it off to do the download and install the program
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: it says here you robbed a hospital. yeahhhh, why'd you do that?
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone know how to capture a room name without (G) and [PK]? this is as close as I can get and it doesn't capture the entire room name to the right of (G)... (?<roomname>\w+)(?:\s\(G\))?(?:\s\[\*\*\> PK \<\*\*\])? again roomname Entrance to a Forest (G) [**> PK <**]
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: errr, to the left of (G)
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: try \w+? instead of \w+ so it's not greedy .. also might want to use . instead of \w .. pretty sure room names don't have to be just alpha
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: alternatively, you can grab it from gmcp
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: something is wrong with the syntax even using .+? It grabs each character as its own group
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i just solved it in a Lua function. I couldn't figure out the regexp
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: i am haveing troubel unziping the aard wolf mush client what should i do
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Get the installer from Fiendish (finger him for the link)
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay back i missed your commentsif you did comment .
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: i am blind and a tech dor or loser
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: dork
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay i am a tech dor a blind one too sigh
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: and stubborn too sigh cna someon please help how to install mush client of aard wolf
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: Slyblade go to: https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: or even better use direct link to installer: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/releases/download/r1887/Aardwolf_MUSHclient_r1887.exe
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay i will post the results
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: later
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: its extremely user friendly :)
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I think you need also install a plugin that will work with some screenreader
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay next question it says not to install to a program file so where should i install it to
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: anywhere else
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also: there's a new note for users of screen readers in the welcome window informing them of a new command "connect to aardwolf" that bypasses the need to click unfriendly checkboxes
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I just use c:\games\mud
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: if you have a d drive.. it's nice to put it there..
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: after you have installed it run <path>\mushclient.exe (for example c:\games\mud\mushclient.exe)
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also: - new feature: there is a new plugin meant to assist players who use screen readers by capturing the output from game commands and sending it to a MUSHclient notepad. The plugin is called aard_VI_command_output.xml. For now it has an accompanying readme file.
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay succes now the plug ins post which you would reccommend for a fi person
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I think you could add that plugin aard_VI_command_output.xml
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I am not sure whethet it is recommended or not, but surely it can capture some commands output and send it to notepad
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: to add plugin you need : press ctrl+shift-P, then press Add, then select aard_VI_command_output.xml then click Open
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: if a plugin was installed then you get an info like: Added plugin C:\games\mud\worlds\plugins\aard_VI_command_output.xml
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: to test whether it works or not just type: mc command look
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I think reading README_command_output_plugin.txt can be also good idea (it is located in the same folder as plugins ie <path>\worlds\plugins\README_command_output_plugin.txt) 
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: then I think you will also need some plugins to send output from mush to screenreader
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: check this page: http://epitaph.imaginary-realities.com/mw/index.php?title=Mushclient_Accessibility
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: although that is for another mud, I think that paragraph "Configuring Mushclient For Your Screen Reader" should be common to all muds
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: so: The first step is to get Mushclient to send all text from the mud to your screen reader, to be read outloud. Currently Jaws, NVDA, Window-Eyes, and System Access are supported. 
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: First, download the mushreader plugin from: http://www.allinaccess.com/mc/mushReader.zip
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: unfortunately I have never seen VI mush setup - so I just assume that is next thing you should do to make mushclient usable
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: how to prevent a space when concatenating strings in lua?
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Dont put a space?
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Lua concatenation does not put a space, if you're using ..
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay this is serious my compute is haveing mood swingscomputr
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: my computer is not letting open up the consumer window it tells me that teh remore procedure has failed what the hell does that mean
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what is consumer window?
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: the consumer icon sorry
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is this some application?
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: sorry my compter has a diffrent name ofor it buts its wher your files in documents downloads and all that go to
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems similar to: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-update/the-remote-procedure-call-failed-and-did-not/445c3192-466e-476f-a552-535da05f086c
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what you need to do is to start "Remote Procedure Call" windows service
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sometimes restarting service can help (in case you have problem with RPC)
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: the thread is not found anymore dam it
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is, I guess that this link is just too long and you got it improper
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try this one: http://tinyurl.com/ztnbo68
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: i am ffinding obstacles everywhere
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: first things fires my consumer icon is haveing remote problemsso i can't download mush client please help and no teh i dont have aanything called windows service
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: quest
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: question beating hhead against wall
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: are there any advisors or helpers out there who can help me out with my tech problem
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bhengis Tech: just ask. if anyone can help, they will :D
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: always helps if you just state your question. skip the foreplay
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay i am having troubel installing plug ins and the aard wolf mush client argh i am blind which makes thing a little bit more complex and a techno loser
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: What is the trouble? Have you downloaded aardmush and installed it?
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: where in it is your problem? ctrl-shft-p to open installed plugins list and then alt-a to open file
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay lets start with the first problem teh aard wolf mush client i downloaded it and it goes immedeately to 7 zip so the suggested another mush client package
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: i downloaded that one but am having trouble finding friendly vi plug ins like for jaws
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NeKRed Nibir Tech: how do I save a website to desktop, so I click a link and it brings me to that specific website.. without making it my home page
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NeKRed Nibir Tech: on pc
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: right-click on link and select create-shortcut
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if a windows OS
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NeKRed Nibir Tech: that doesnt seem to work
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if windows OS, at desktop screen, right-click on unsed area and select "new" then select "create-shorcut", and then later update the newshortcut to go to the websitepage
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: Hi
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: So if I understand correctly, sharing mapper DB files will cause errors due to portals and such being unique
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: but if someone were to forget all their portals...
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: it should work without a hitch?
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: anyone have experience with that?
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ummm maybe?
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: can do mapper purge portals
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: ^^^ right??
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: So who wants to test this...I will pay TP's!!
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: but really shouldn't be borrowing other ppl dbs...
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: Yes, I know it's best to map things on my own.
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: it should work.  other things to remove are some cexits may/may not work due to what goals other person may have done.  it's an easy fix though.
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: ^^^ AHHH
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: thats the other thing..
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: forgot about that...Hmph!
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: how is it an easy fix??
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you could purge cexits too but... that's kind of the only reason to use someone's mapper DB I would think?
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: it's best to develop your own db
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: But Grimvalddddddd
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: It could take years!!!
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: it will
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: there may still be hiccups for things like cexits that require a goal to be completed etc
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: A clean DB file would be worth so much imo...
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: clean meaning no portals or goal cexits
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: the main reason not to purge all the cexits too is the VERY tedious door opening cexits
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: as long as it's backed up tho...
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: you still won't know how to get anywhere
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: true..
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I did all of this manually, then I wish I can remove them neatly once I got passdoor....
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: just speaking in hypotheticals here...I doubt it's worth the trouble
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: ouch =(
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: ya...
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: only problem is they're not all passdoorable
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: It was fun to work on expanding the database...would incentivise you to walk in all rooms etc
T3/r7/2017-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: even unlocked doors sometimes have to be opened first
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: hi guys.. i lost one of the maps gui's for mushclient what are all the plugins called?
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: guys which gmcp field should i read to determine if im moving or not?
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you've looked at this http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: just what i needed thanks i overlooked it
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: So.....I kinda forgot my external HDD's cables 500 miles away and tried to use the SDD directly, but doing this gives me format errors, any tips?
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: SInce driving 500 miles for 2 cables is a wee bit over the top
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: buy new ones?
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Yeah, I am in a rather old town, not a single super market
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: drive to a town closer than 500 mi away
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: you shouldn't have brought new tech to an old town.. you will contaminate them!!
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: or a city
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FirstBlade Gladacus falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Amish?
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: rip some wires out of your car, and fashion one yourself, mcgyver style
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: I wish
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: you can successfully use your sdd as a coaster without a cable
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Seriously though, anyway to prevent the format issues?
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: mcgyver could make sdd cables out of the hairs in his ass!!
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: It detects in bios but when I try to open it once pc is booted, it asks me to format the drive
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: try that and see what happens
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: maybe it's detecting wrong in bios?
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghaan Tech: Bye data.
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: not exactly
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: are you on Windows? Do run "diskmgmt.msc" and you can find more info about the disk there
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tolman Tech: if you are lucky it is just missing an assigned drive letter
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: does winkle winkle and bast keep their pluggins updated?
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: finger nokfah for updated ww's plugin. 
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: and for basts.. you just need to find the strings that were changed. there are not many of those.
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay still encountering problems and made a disaster
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: i am blind and tried to install the aard wolf mush client and add plug in but encounter problems plz help
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: what kind of problems?
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay i download much client from aard wolf website and want o add the plug ins that will jaws my screenreader speack to me how do i add the plug ins
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: ctrl-shift-p to open plugins window and then alt-a to choose file (pluginfile) you want to install
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: also, if you dont have sounds plugin yet, try out winklewinkles (finger winklewinkle for address). 
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: do i have to be in the mush client and hit alt cntrl p
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yes, they are mushclient commands. you install plugins from within program (Mush)
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: then i am curseing not mush or my computer i am curseing the people who gave me the computer
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: are you on mush right now?
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: or are you on mac?
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay hitting head against wall they put a short cut that when i hit alt contrel p powerpoint pop up i know its a shrot cut and i am screaming in frustration
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: shift.. not alt ctrl
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: ctrl-shift-p
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: and if alt gives you powerpoint, you have shortcuts that fire before programs own shortcuts..BUT
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: go file-plugins
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it opens very same window
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: there find Add button. that will allow you to choose the plugin file you want to load
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: are you vi or know someone who is
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: my 7 zip not working right
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: same questions are asked quite often. not vi user however
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: mm what program do you use to unzip zip files
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: depends.. win10 doesnt need unzip program.. but I like 7zip
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: 7 zip
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if it doesnt work right, remove it and reinstall.
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: my brothe says it is working well or properly but i just learned he is tech challenged like me
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: hmm okay dum question time when you unzip the aard wolf mush client where does it go to
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: i am severly tech challenged and only 25 sigh blush
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you can place the folder where ever you want.
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: yes but how do you move copy and paste or what
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: i need patient
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: i need patience
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just uninstall it to folder and it's ready to work
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: oky suggest a folder
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: slyblade on your desktop
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: downloaded the Windows 10 ISO using the Microsoft Media Creation Tool. created an image that's too big for a DVD and my BIOS can't see my USB drive to boot from it for some reason. any thoughts?
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kafur Tech: did you try all of your usb ports? my pc will only boot from some of them
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I tried three or so
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: redoing the ISO, thinking I might've done something dumb like pick both 32bit and 64bit
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I don't suppose there's a way to mount the image to a virtual drive and install it on a blank drive while booted in Windows 7? :p
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: in a vm maybe
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: can anyone tell me teh link to get the plug in fro mush z that is vi friendly
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: but that just adds complications
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yeah that sounds like a pain
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea im not even sure how youd pull it off
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: sly, did you download the sound pack and get it installed from ww?
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: uhm talking about the plug ins or teh booting to windowns 7 thing
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: me? im talking about the windows 7 thing :p
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: that did sound kind of complex
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Windowns.. I think I might use that later.. typo or not
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: haha, didnt even notice nice catch yajan
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: i am a bad typist kind of ironci i love this game so much
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I just roll my face on the keys, and scream "WINNANNG"
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: best typo in history of aard
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: i am going to see if i find the plug in myself afk mode
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just pres win-l button combination
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, that's how I got this game on lock
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: ookay windows plus l okay i will try if that is truely tha answer to my question or tto the boot windows 7 question
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: i am kind dizzy
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: pretty sure that's the hotkey to "lock" your session
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It is.
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not really sure why that was suggested lol
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: he wanted to go afk and was asking plugins for win7... it's already built in it :P
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan giggles.
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: i am still listening kind of dizzy from the ct channel and gossip and here
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just turn gossip off.. that's what everyone else does anyways :)
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: just did
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: so your telling me that the jaws screenreadet plug in is already installed i am such a tech loser
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: still a tech loser
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: https://www.allinaccess.com/mc/
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: its a miracle i knwo hwo to work a computer sigh
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: check the troubleshooting part in bottom
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: another typo
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: i am so stupid
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: turned oof the channel
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: off
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: i just downloaded the the aard wolf mush client package which already has a text to speech plug in
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: having a problem tturning it on though
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigrus Tech: anyone here thats good with zmud triggers?
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I was about 20 years ago
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I am guessing that some of the stuff has changed though
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Actually no, that's about when the last release of zmud was :D
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: haha
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigrus Tech: do you remember how to reset a class folder after the triggers all fire off 1 time?
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: no sorry I sure don't
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigrus Tech: the trigger adds random sets of 5 numberes
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bombora Tech: zmud wont have - as it changed to cmud and there were changes there
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigrus Tech: and i need it to reset the total to 0 before it adds up the next set
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigrus Tech: right now it will add the first set and second set tegether
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigrus Tech: and then the first two sets to the third set
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I can think of several ways to do that with counts
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bombora Tech: go to the old zmud forums - but it was re-setting the vars you used to hold teh count 
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigrus Tech: alright, that was my next idea scan the forums
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigrus Tech: thank yall
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: yeah or just google it :)
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bombora Tech: actually i suggest you consider moving to mush - i finally found the mapper to be limited with the number of rooms there are now here
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: and mush most likely has everything you really need already
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: and if not it is pretty robust LUA so you can write just about anything for it
T3/r7/2017-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: and we already know you manage with zscript. Lua should be easy as anything.. :)
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: i installed mush client correctly finally ..
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: great! what about jaws plugins?
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: but when i go to install a plug in it doesn't show me what folder its going to what is up
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it doesnt install it to any folder, it runs it from the folder you choose it from.. 
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it loads it into memory and uses it from there
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okya maybe install is the wrong word i meant download a tech loser here
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: so you mean - when using web browser it does not show you where save it to ?
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: drop the plugins you wish to add into the plugin directory. i prefer to make a subdir for each one. then use the file->plugins menu option to load them
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: in your mushclient folder is worlds folder, there is aardwolf and in there is plugins. put all plugins in there and you can easily access them from add plugins window
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: maybe not each one but for each person who made them
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: i right click teh plug in and it says sav as but it doesn't show me what folder
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: either way. plugins folder is place where you should put your xml files
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: yes but how do i get them there if i can't read the folder and i am blind
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: you have installed your mush to c:\folder\mush\ , your plugins folder is c:\folder\mush\worlds\plugins - you should save xml plugin files to that folder
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: instead of clicking, you right click and choose save as or save to folder (which ever it is)
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: when you choose save as - that will open a window where you can choose the folder you want to save it to
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay i am right clicking it and pressing save as but it doesn't show me any folders
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: it is hiding them
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: why would it do that
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it's there you just need to shuffle through the slots there
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: it should open standard save as window, default focus is on file name
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: but you can enter full path there - therefore you can pick folder in that way
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: and usually default download folder in windows is downloads in your own userfolder
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay updat took me two day and twelve hours to figure out how to install mush client but success
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay step two i need someon to give me the like to get the jaws plug in for mush client
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: sorry for the misspells so tired
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: go to http://www.allinaccess.com/mc/  and read about MushReader or use direct link http://www.allinaccess.com/mc/mushReader.zip
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: once you download that zip - you need to extract files in it
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: readme.txt: To install this, put the dll's in the main mushclient program directory and the plugin xml file in your plugins directory,usually worlds\plugins.
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay i think i have thea tprogram but installed it or unzipped it iin the wrong folder let me check
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: there are several files in that zip - I think you should extract all filest to mushclient program directory and just move/copy mushReader.xml to plugins subdir
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay brb to give you an update
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: having ttroubel unziping th file at least i think thats the problem
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: sorry i am sleep deprived
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: you use 7zip, right? so I assume that mushreader.zip will be opened with 7.zip
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: yes and no i go to 7 zip file manage and its not there
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: hey do you knwo how to change the settings in 7 zip
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: change settings? why?
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: i changed them at 3 am and i think thats the problem
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: first - download mushreader.zip and save it to some folder 
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: second - open downloaded file with 7-zip (or just instead of save as pick open with)
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: after that mushreader.zip should be opened in 7-zip
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay afk mode now
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: now you need to extract files - so just ctrl-a to select all (there is just one entry - mushreader folder) then press shift-enter , that should open new window with files
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: new window will be standard explorer window, so just enough to do is: ctrl-a to select all files, ctrl-c to copy them, then open new explorer window and navigate to musclient folder and just press ctrl-v (paste)
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: still in new explorer window type: mushreader.xml - that should select mushreader.xml file, then once more: ctrl-c to copy it, navigate to worlds\plugins subfolder and press ctrl-v to paste it into that folder
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: after that you need install plugin
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: btw all that things are easy if you can see them :P
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: now, I wonder - are you able to use teamviewer or vnc ?
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: those program are used to share your desktop with other person
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: although you should never give unknown person access to your desktop using those programs
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: in your case it may be easiest way
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenrosei Tech: hey just so yall know cloudflare had a memory leak and leaked some passwords of users sooo here is the write up you might want to change your passwords https://blog.cloudflare.com/incident-report-on-memory-leak-caused-by-cloudflare-parser-bug/
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenrosei Tech: since cloudflare is used by reddit and alot of sites
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I make my passwords easy and fill all my accounts with horse porn to punish anyone who hacks them
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: ouch
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: between horses? or with horses?
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: you'll just have to wait and find out
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I once encrypted a hard drive, and on the fake partition I fill it with inappropriate and disgusting (but legal) pr0n.
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I figure if you're going through mah stuff, you deserve to get a bit of goatse...
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay updat on my pissing match with 7 zip
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: you decided to install winrar in the end?
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: i decided to install mush client and ttry to open mush reader or unzip it but.. i have noe idea where it is going
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I don't know mush reader but a lot of things go into the same directory you unzip them
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: well i tried unzipping mush reader and it tells me its going to program files but its not there
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: Try C:\Program Files (x86)
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: Type in top right search bar the folder you want.
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: hi still having roubles here sigh okay is aard wolf mush clinet accessable toto the blind
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: sorry to many typos
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: have you installed mushreader ?
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: yes but it still not appearing in the folder i tried installing it other place but nada
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I'm afraid you need unpack files from mushreader.zip into mush folder - at least dll's - otherwise mush won't be able to load them
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: Slyblade are you able to use teamviewer?
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: how ccan you check how much memory capacity you have or bytes on your wind 7
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: open task manager, switch to performance tab - there will be memory information
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: win-> type task-> enter
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Right-click start-menu - System... It says in the middle
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: i'm having some issues with Mush not saving window locations when i exit.. i play with full screen but when i open mush its the default windowed. when i enter full screen i have to reorganize all the windows to fit every time
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: there is something like aard lock layout
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: is there something default in mush that i can use to lock all the windows?
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: "aard layout lock" (or unlock) , I think that should keep windows at their locked locations
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: ahh we will see if it works
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I expect it will work only for windows that support it, so rather standard aard plugins
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: currently i have to adjust my main window, stats, and mapper windows
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: well that window position fix worked. thanks whoever that was
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: well that window position fix worked. thanks whoever that was
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: how do I tell mapper to run to an area? Take Gold Rush for instance?
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: standard mapper can't do that, it needs a mapper id#. there are plugins (like mapper extender) that hold onto a "default" start room for an area that execute mapper goto (that ID#)
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: Hmm..I see
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kya Tech: Hi guys, I have a question. I'm trying to make cexits in Imagi's Nation. But for all of the dreams excluding water, my cexits created but they don't work properly. It shows this message when I do mapper thisroom. "say dentists"="nomap_Dentalphobia_imagi"
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it's a no_map room, so cexits to and from it won't work. the solution is to make it a multiple step cexit.
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kya Tech: Thanks, I can do that. :)
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: For instance, mapper cexit say clowns;;d
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kya Tech: Yep, gotcha.
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I have one for the entrances, and from the first mapped room to the exits (u;;leave dream)
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kya Tech: I'll make those too
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Anyone know how to link two plugins? As in if I wanted to use a function from one plugin in the other, but not copy and paste the whole thing in?
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: welp. you could get them to communicate with pluginbroadcast or just use aliases i think
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I was thinking plugin broadcast.. but I wanted to do it without having to modify the one whos function will be called
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shelkin Tech: YES! Wifes DVD drive failed on her laptop as I was giving her a fresh image on an SSD. This W10 thumbdrive image is actually working!
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: is there a link for the fixed WW s&d plugin
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: anywhere
T3/r7/2017-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: It was in nokfah's finger, for anyone reading abelincs logs in the future.
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyone know an IDE that keeps local files synced with server? i make changes on my server and then have to wait for awhile while my local machine goes through each file to sync and keep it up to date (currently using phpstorm)
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: not sure if git would be useful for that
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: or svn if you wish to go old school
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: probably not, its mainly because i have to issue commands through the terminal sometimes which makes the files out of sync
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i see {end running} after done running. anyone know which option/tag that is?
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: maybe maprun ?
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: test
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Test acknowledged.
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: When I log into my windows and click on desktop nothing wants to open. Anyone know whats cooking here?
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: I am using Windows 8
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: My Search and Destroy GUI window dissapeared, how can I get it back please?
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Thank you.
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: is there a gmcp charstate for spelling up? would help my spellerupper :<
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: how do I check which plugins I have available on Mush?
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: shift-ctrl-p
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: lots run in the background
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: will list all the currently installed once hten there is a button down the bottom to add more, should default to the plugins dir
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: omg bad spelling day. sorry
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: Is sharp tracker useful?
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: or could someone please recommend some good plugins
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuli Tech: Bast has a LOT of really useful ones :)
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: does he have a website I can view all his work on?
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuli Tech: finger bast
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fravardin thanks Shuli heartily.
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: I'm not so good with these plugins and the helpfile seems confusing, could I please get some help with PotQuaffer 2.0? I use six-pack of DUFF beer as my potion
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: how do I set bsp to recast a spellup when it finishes?
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay my fight is almost over one problem left i have extracted the files from mush reader and they are in mush client but when i try to add the plug in they are not there
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: hi guys. i need help. i cannot find a way to configure my statmn (stat monitor from bast, from 2012). The mud (or mush client) simply ignore calling the command 'statmn' (and it is defined that way in the xml file). The script works (i get the messages when i pup etc), but I cannot seem to modify for example the channel it outputs to
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, as i've spent hours on this for nothing
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: statmn showvars 
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: That is not a command. Type 'Commands' for a complete list.
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: mush isn't recognizing it for some reason
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: have you tried to reinstall it?
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: did you install bast's statmon?
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: multiple times
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: i think so, mencheres
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: wait, which statmon? statdb?
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: either i have another script conflicting or i have some alias hidden where i cannot see it or something like that... it's the only script that does this to me :P
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: should be Statmon 
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: cause i can configure (call the command) bsp, pupgoal, etc, all fine
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: statmn does it show a menu?
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: i don't think i have one called 'statmon'... i have statmonitor.xml (which has defined statmn as cmd) and i have aard_statmon_gmcp.xml
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: he has said multiple times that statmn is not a command :P
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: I only know basts, so i'm out
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if statmon writes a state file, unload statmon, delete state file and install statmon again.
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: i am using bast's, mencheres
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: nuanse, how can i see if it writes a state file?
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: search your state folder with pluginid (you can get it from the xml file)
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: ok, found the state file. renaming it so mush can't find it
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just delete it
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: ok, reinstalled plugin. a new state file was created
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: make a backup of the whole mush directory first
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: statmn showvars still says it's not a command
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: doesn any other commands work?
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: like exppermin etc?
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: is it disabled?
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: no, it's enabled
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: it is working, since it outputs the group window, and i'm seeing it
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: don't know what exppermin is, but for example other plugins like bsp (spellup script), or pupgoal, all work
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: it does continue to output to group talk, which is in fact what i wanted to change :P
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: still more plugins, like mstat (a mini win plugin for stats), all work :p frustrating
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: is a conundrum
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: i even downloaded the original xml again from online yesterday, replaced, and still nothing
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: pretty sure the word is being captured as something else, and not processed as a command, as it should be
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: though i have no aliases
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: is statmon on or off
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: type plugins
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you should see the command in there
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: yes!! that is it!
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: plugins shows it as 'gain' instead of 'statmn' which is on the xml file! 
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse goes to Stomp: "No Problem!"
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: how the hell is it ignoring the code in the xml? where can i change this command keyword?
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: thanks nuanse :)
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: use gain help
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: and change the command back to statmn
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: ok, ty
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Anyone know about mysql to mysqli?
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't, but it looks like mysqli is just an interface to mysql
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Problem: a site that uses mysql upgraded to a newer version of php (not sure which one yet), and apparently it does not support mysql anymore. Using CodeIgniter
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the latest php still supports mysql, they just might not have that extension installed
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Googling says otherwise, though
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Or I just suck at googling
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: anyone have this thing with running to hodgepodge with mapper? it keeps trying to go thru the locked door in infestation
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lock the level of that exit
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I think you can set the level lock for that to something absurd.
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: have done so- but seems a bit klutzy
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or cexit opening it and always have the key
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: could also go grab the key
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper's job is to take the shortest path...the shortest path is through that door
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: the mapper doesn't know if you have the keys or not
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: so that behavior is actually by design :)
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so if you don't want that path to be chosen, you have to tell the mapper not to choose it
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: locking its level will do that
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: on the other hand, you'll have to remember that you locked the level, because the mapper will not use that exit. and you'll have to get through it manually, when you actually try to get to the other side
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: how does pull requests work on github? do i basically fork the project, make the changes and push them to my git? then how do i make the pull request?
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peaceful Wars Tech: is there a command to bring the S&D window back on screen? a friend is having trouble
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peaceful Wars Tech: ty
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swiftheart Tech: i copied the mush reader xml file to mush client but its not working
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tratillo Tech: so one of my little windows mush client is mostly off screen to the upper left and I can't seem to figure out to drag it back....Anyone know any tricks?
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: aard layout unlock
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: Who has a pot counter for mush?
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: blumalice has one
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: what is the command to lock windows? using mush
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay almost done can almost ttaste that freedom but..
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: i am having trouble with the mush reader it keeps saying teh scripts have failed what does that mean
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: You're missing the dll files that plugin needs, I'll give them to you. Just paste them in your mush directory. Hang on
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: i probably missed one of them
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: is anyone familiar with nightscout?
T3/r7/2017-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: Anyone here familiar with Blowtorch 2 beta
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: What kind of mobile connection is HSUPA?
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: 3.5G
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It's a faster 3G technology
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: does anyone have a plugin that allows you to attack mobs in the room based on number, or something similar?
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: you may want to check consider all miniwindow plugin
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Ok so
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Is there a simply way to add aliases without opening up a scripting file, and etc. A way to do it from the prompt?
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: You mean chain aliases?
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: lol. shit
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Nah, like for example
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: in mush press alt+enter and go to the alias section, then do all you want there
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: shift+ctrl+9
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: For mm2k = /alias {heal %1} {get $1 bag
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: For mm2k = /alias {heal %1} {get $1 bag\
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Err w/e
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I gotcha, thanks.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Just used to doing everything from prompt
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you can then change to send to script or execute or all sorts of things and make rather complicated aliases and triggers
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Nod, it will just take time, I spent over 15 years with mm2k so.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: This is just looking overwhelming for the time being
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grimvald perks up, something must have grabbed his attention.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: lua is pretty forgiving except for case, like c so you're not going to find it hard to adapt
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: ie This (is not equal to) this
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: So, / is aliased to recall. How would one go about removing that?
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Seems to be the marker for start of a script using prompt
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Which therefore confuses lua...or maybe I am high again
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: overwrite it with a social maybe?
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Trying to figure out how to remove it?
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: The alias or macro, however it is setup
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: "unalias 'alias name' "
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it's ingame command. You cant remove it
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: That is not a command. Type 'Commands' for a complete list. Should I do from immediate windiw, Ctrl and I?
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Hrm
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Just going through the Lua/Mushclient crap, and it shows that / is used to start scripting.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: /Note "Hello World" etc
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: shift-ctrl 6 and put / in prefix
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Ooo, over looked that. Thanks Nuanse.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse goes: "No Problem!"
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Nuanse, can you write a very simple alias script in Tech channel using command prompt?
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: All mine seem to just fail at inhuman speeds.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: /AddAlias("food_alias", "eat", "eat food", alias_flag.Enabled, "")
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: https://www.mushclient.com/scripts/function.php?name=AddAlias for more information
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: What do type to see plugin window in MUSH, to install and tweak plugins?
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: shift + ctrl + p
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: shft+ctrl+P
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: SHift control p?
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Can also go file -> Plugins
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Nod, been a while.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone use masaki equalizer?
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: hi i am having trouble get a sound to paly from the client on a trigger what do I put int box?
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What do you mean, what do you put into the box?
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You make the trigger, then go to Sound -> Browse -> Find your sound, and then click OK.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: yes thank you but nothing happens when the tigger should fire
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Azurite takes a large shotgun and starts blowing holes in Krung's lagging ISP.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Then your trigger pattern is likely incorrect.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What are you trying to trigger off of?
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: okay what would be the pattern for doubel exp
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Depends. There's several patterns.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: nod okay just one will do and I will adjsut
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, the patterns are all different, vastly.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So you wouldn't be able to adjust, really. But hold on, let me see something.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: http://wiki.aardwolf.com/index.php/Main/MudMessages#D -- check out the Double Messages there.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can put them all into one regex string, but there you have it.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: to see several patterns type: info -h global
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Why make the job more complicated, Xyliz? While your information is technically correct, it's a pain in the ass.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Plus, it doesn't show ALL patterns.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nepostael Tech: Would this be a good channel to post questions on this MUD's algorithms? Or would that be a question best left to Imms? An aspiring MUD creator is curious :)
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You won't find answers on the algorithms, really.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Lasher doesn't release that information publicly.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Lasher wont give out any algorithims that arent stock ROM
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: depends on what algorithm you mean
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at FirstBlade Gladacus.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nepostael Tech: I would assume they're faily private; these are more general questions
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you won't get exact formulas, still you can get some general info just observing how do things work
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nepostael Tech: Specifically, map drawing
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Are you referring to the ASCII map?
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: gmcp, and the mapper plugins reveal a lot in that area
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: or the GMCP mapper? GMCP mapper is best asked to Nick Gammon.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nepostael Tech: ASCII. I'm just trying to figure out the best way to parse position data and display it
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Send a personal note to Lasher, then. If he feels comfortable giving that information, I'm sure he'll be happy to help.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Don't think Lasher himself will tell you how to make another MUD
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: The coders like Fiendish, might know something but think there was a case of someone asking and it was laughed off
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Though the guy was such a newb about asking
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you have GMCP map - that is drawn client-side, so you can as well apply its rules to ascii map
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Though the guy was such a newb about asking
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Whoops
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The ones that get laughed off are the ones who ask how to do every little thing.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nepostael Tech: Lol I'd assume he wouldn't want to add to the competition. Hopefully I can reassure him with the fact that it's a mostly personal project that won't see mentions beyond my close groups of friends
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: though the guy was such a newb about chatting
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan smirks.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nepostael Tech: How so?
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nepostael: Like I said, best thing to do is send a personal note to Lasher. Or heck, even send one to the email address. :D
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nepostael Tech: Lol I just may send an email
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Nothing ventured, nothing gained XD
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Email address is lasher@aardwolf.com
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nepostael Tech: social thumbsup
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nepostael Tech: damn that never works for me
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne holds his thumb up at nothing in particular.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nepostael Tech: I always forget to capital;ize lol
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: its not social, its *thumbsup
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nepostael holds her thumb up at nothing in particular.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Nepostael!!!  FirstBlade Gladacus cheers her on.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nepostael blushes.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: hi all. On blowtorch what command will i be using when i want to end description edit? .q doesnt work and so none of what they say 
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: ..q
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: Use ..q instead.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: thank you will try that 
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: that worked thanks 
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: Pleasure.
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: when I cast spellup, a new prompt is generated and the cast result is placed on the same row for every spell. Is there an option to have all the cast results show up without creating the add'l prompt lines?
T3/r7/2017-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone know a good tutorial to learn how to create windows, especially with a scroll bar?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: So question
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: For each communication channel...I see it like this
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: {chan ch=tech}Tech:
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Any idea's how to remove the script telling itself what it is :P
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: type tags
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Hrm
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Woot
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: you can turn each one on off with tags <tag> on|off
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: That will make my work easier :)
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Ok, possibly someone else can help me understand why this script isn't working on my client, but works on my old mud
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: (Vs is my variablesavesymbol/etc) {\%1 answers \%2} {/showother {ChannelViewerSide} {Vs answered Vs2}}
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Wtf
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Hrm
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Lemme set it up for tech
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Could someone says anything in tech for me
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: heck no
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: testing
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: hrm
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Hrm
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you can also test with the tell channel
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: if anyone whines
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Hrm
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: #say echo, ft, gt, "tell self" 
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Oddly, if you tech -h and see the line where I show my script. "That" line is shown in comms window, but nothing else is. >.<
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: tell self selfie , You tell Xyliz 'selfie' , Xyliz is catching tells. , Xyliz just sent you a tell. , [27 Feb 04:14:06] - Xyliz tells you 'selfie'
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Nothing, but when you answered 'off', the answer also went to my comms window.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Have my old client and this clients code side by side atm, trying to figure out what is changing, or needs to be.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps Off was translated to 0
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: off
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: what lang is this
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: on
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: trying to get stuff into a comms window?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: A cross between custom and C/C++
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: It's own language really.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 0 
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 1 
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Nothing >.<
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: It works likes this
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: \%1
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: %1
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: So %Name
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: and %Message
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I use as a trigger/action
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: %Name answers %Message
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: So, for mm2k6 it would look like
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: /action {%Name answers %Message}
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: have you added : into Tech? answer doesnt have it tech does :)
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Well the odd part so far
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: The two lines of script of said
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: The variables basically
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Went to comms window
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Nothing else has
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Hrm,
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: The full line would be
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: /action {%Name Tech: %Message} <-----(Would start things, and capture the name and msg) {/showother {ChannelViewerSide.mms} (<---The new window I created that I am trying to send it too) {$Name Tech: $Message}
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Now on my ChannelViewerSide.mms window
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: It just showed the Name variable Tech: in yellow
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: and the essage in nsiBold()ForeCyan()
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: and the essage in cyan
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: fml
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: W/e, I will get there eventually.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "Tech:" contains a colon
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Nod, just checked, is present in the /trigger sequence
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the colon may be doing something extra
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yeah, you might need to make sure colon works correctly
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Nevermind, I am an huge idiot
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: It is fixed
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I had it set where my variables currently must be numbers
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Due to other mud
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: So by using $Name
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (please do not self-praise yourself)
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: It killed it
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: So, now, when I use Tech, we do not need a name variable, so I just need to use a ^ so mine will only transfer if nothing is infront of the carriage.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Hi
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: And here comes the confusion again
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Hi
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Moo
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Hi
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: problems? :D
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: If I am scripting/coding, there rarely isn't some problems :P
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Hi
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bombora mumbles something about spam
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bombora Tech: so if you still have a problem share - otherwise...
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Well, it isn't really an issue, it is 'fat fingering' it or w/e..my disability causes a lot of twitching/jerking of muscles, etc. So a lot of times, I just hit a button twice, or forgot something simple due to meds.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: excuses :P
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: ^
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: It also doesn't help much, I need to write each script twice, slightly different because when "I" use a channel, the trigger sequence is slightly different, and I also don't need a extra variable
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: So, no problems now, just my screw ups
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Here is a question, that maybe I am missing something simple about
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: odd questions about secrets, and try to tie your shoes together. That lines triggers my communications
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I have the trigger anchor'd though with ^
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: what is your trigegr line and what line does it trigger on?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Nevermind, that is the start of a line, so the anchor only reads singlel ines
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Mm2k6 doesn't like multi-line scripts, it is possible, but, confusing
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Thanks for trying tho, Kippe.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Guess I could put in an if/then statement that checks who for names, before it sends the commands, but that would cause a bit a lag.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: To much work too
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: mmmkay... sounds like you are building a bot ;)
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Technically
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Chat bot on aard?:P
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: Sav what actually are you doing?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Actions search for "x", when it does, the variables are transfered to another window
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Basically creating a separate comms window, and then /gagging ones on the main window
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: why dont you just stop doing test on channel name and put tags channels on :P
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Da hell is dat? >.<
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: help tags
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Would still need to put players names and output into variables
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: For each channel, I write two scripts
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: One for when I use it, one when someone else does
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: What client?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Mm2k6
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Was about to say, sure aint mush XD
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Action catchs comms, uses /showother to send to "x" window
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Then eventually, I will remove all comms from my main window
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Once I make sure I have them all sent to other window
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Kinda like mush does?:P
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: and They work properly
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Yes, exactly like it does. Like I said, I love mush, I don't like their language options for scripting, or the format they have it setup to do it.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: A ton of a options, I prefer simply.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: simple
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: why not just use tags and gag it from main and send whole line to comms window? why separate names and answers? you still need to write the very same line anyways
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Because I create logs that file $Name and $Output, for future looking through
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Certain words are flagged
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: And will also file it
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: there is also the comm gmcp channel
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: so still, why not just grab whole line, and use string manipulation in c/c++ (as you said it's partly that) to just pick what you want? why do it hard way?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Masochist maybe, I am losing the use of my physical body slowly, so trying to keep my mind sharp/keen.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I don't really have an answer for that, bud :/
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Right now, I am trying to figure out how to put the minimap into a separate window
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: and yeap, as far as I have gotten thinking about it :P
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Use the map start and map end tags to copy everyhing between?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Hrm
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Those are tags?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: What client was that again Savocktal?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: that is the way aar plugin works
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FirstBlade Gladacus nods.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Mudmaster2k6
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: why  not mush?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Not the language he wants
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: you have acces both to mushclient sources and plugins
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Not the language he wants
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Mm2k6 I have used for over 15 years.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: if you do not like Lua you can use other language
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: So, changing is rough >.<
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Cannot use mm2k6 language tho :P
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: well, it it is 15 years old, time for change :P
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: What is the tag for map thing?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: maybe take a look at 'tags'?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: <MAPSTART> <MAPEND>
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: And you all really want me spamming tech like a crackhead who did 3 lines of cocaine off a raccoons hind end? :P
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: most of these things have already been worked out on mush, though. all you have to do is install plug-ins
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Nod
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Most of the MUD is actualy built to fit in with Mush and vice-versa, it seems
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: mm2k is old and outdated, like the place it leads to :p
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Don't make me cut you Grim.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Like a alot of GMCP values are added, if enough people needed it for a useful script/Mush again, had a GMCP handler built in.....
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: If anyone wants to take a stab at mm2k6, seems like a lot of screw ups, with a little success. Seems my script for copying from <MAPSTART> through <MAPEND> is screwin up some how, I just don't see it.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: It does send a "blank" line to the new window
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: So, I know I am slowlyo n nthe right track.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok so how do i engage the autologoff feature due to inactivity
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: You automatically log off due to inactivity, unless you have trigger/timer running to stop it...
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i have no clue i just use the mushclient the game comes with
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i want the game to log me off when inactive
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: the game will kick you off unless you set something up to stop it
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: It will...
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: now it seems like it takes 2 hours to kick me off
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: Your eyes glaze over. Need to be captured as a trigger and a random command must be executed to keep you online.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: The client will remain open though
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: you just disconnect
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: is there a default or somewhere in mushclient that i can set how long im inactive before it logs me out
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stile shakes his head.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: or to check if there is something keeping me logged in
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: Nope, that's server side
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: Check your triggers/timers...
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: shift+ctrl+8 to open trigger window in MUSH.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: You got a spellup trigger?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok ill play through this, i do have a spellup trigger yes
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: What client you using?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: Could also add a timer to send a command every 14 min. It takes 15 min for eyes glaze over to take affect.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: That is what I do, when I afk, I have an event(Timer) that sneezes per 240 seconds.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I use Spellup so other people don't have to see me doing the same social constantly. Plus... Your Spells get better too
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Oooo
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Great idea, Noegel
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Didn't cross my mind
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: Spellup script is good.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: is there a quick way to disconnect like something you can type besides quit
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I use xddf.. noone sees it since it's an invalid command..
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: no sweet scripts on mobile :(
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: alt+f4
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: Might lvl without being at pc from spellup script, but that is legal.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I don't know about Mush, for mm2k6, /zap = disconnect regardless of situation
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: shift+ctrl+k in mushclient
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amministra Amorat Tech: Any of ya programmers know category theory?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amministra Amorat Tech: Need someone to explain Yoneda's lemma to me xD
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: IM sure someone is out there, but not in the mood to drag Ocho.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: miss
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowrunner Tech: isn't there a no exp command? how do I do that
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: noexp
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Leave out the space - noexp
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: noexp
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: expt is also a neat command.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: weird how only t2 starts as 2k exp but 3 start at 3k and 2 at 1k
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: Ocho T4R1L87 Levels - 40.62% (5,715/14,070) | Experience - 25.57% (24,422,999/95,520,000) | SHs Left - 60.00% (42/70)
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: tier 8 is where the sweating starts.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: {skillgain}169,1, first time this is screened on my screen.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Likely had some script that activated the tags
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: There is a few channel report bugs in mush, when channel tags is added to text in main sceen and not reported in com log...
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: Perhaps Glada.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: can someone please tell me how to prevent not logging out, i use mushclient, and every time i get out of the window and miss a room reset i get in trouble.  So how can i get this freaking thing to just let me log off when i idle?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Do you know about triggers?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: yes simeple trigger stuff, i dont know anything in depth
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> timers, add, make it 10 mins recurring, put Send("") into the big box, and use the drop-down to select Script
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: done, you won't idle out again
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maokai Tech: sounds like looking for opposite
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: timer > trigger :-)
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops!
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: Shift+cttrl+8, make a stay alive trigger in that window, Capture (Your eyes glaze over) and send a random command. This will happen every 15 minute. Alternatively make a timer to execute a random command ever 14 min.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rofl, nobody asks for it to go in that direction...
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never use a random command when just hitting "enter" works, btw
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: find hte idle out phrase and make a trigger that logs you out on that
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: a good random command is "slap abelinc"
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you use spellup scripts, etc., you won't generally ever hit the idle out phrase...
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: If you use a random command, i take it your well accuastomed to aards commands and not a freshly...
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, if you want a random thing, then "random" is the best one to choose ;-)
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best way to do a forced idle-out would be to use the mechanism that my auto-reply plugin uses, which determines how long it's been since you last typed something, not including triggered stuff
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but as it just keeps track of that time and doesn't act on it until you get a tell, you'd want to combine the tracker with a timer which tests against it every so often...
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i cant find the dropdown with recurring, it says world, command sutff like that
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: look for timers
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the very top of the timer definition
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: By a random command, I dont mean one that will spam people in your present room.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that advice was before I properly read your request
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: there's a pic of a clock in the gui near the top of the screen
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: oh snap so dont do that then? lol
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, don't do that...at that time I was describing an ANTI-idle
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: whats happening is i get called away at work or someone needs me to help them so i leavce my desk.  I may sometimes be gone for 15 - 20 minutes and i pup in icefall alot.  I forget to log out cause the room is empty, and then i come back nad am in jail or a manor for "afking in aggro room"  so I just want to disconnect from the game completely cause there is 0 benefit to me staying on line.  
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that you can't quit while fighting...
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And you'll lose any keys you have!
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: losing keys is better than losing char though ;-)
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I don't know some keys are a pain....
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But you are probably right.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i dont care about keys
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: just need to get the fuzz off my back for this stupid crap
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: script to auto-dump the keys into a bag and drop the bag in the manor
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i dont have nay keys
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: So just create a killswitch that autoquits if you don't press a button every 1 minute when out of manor or something....
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in 5 mins I could make something that will try to quit when you've been idle for more than "x" minutes, but it won't be able to quit when you're fighting
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maokai Tech: or just cast word
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: can it quit me out when the fight is over? 
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is icefall wordable?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maokai Tech: wont work in the pk rooms but higher chance then quit
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: and does spellups and tuff affect it?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: NOt all of it
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: spellup and stuff wouldn't impact what I'd use
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: do not play at work unless you're net-/sysadmin
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: I would be very gratefull if you could.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Maybe suggest there should be a nogain command!
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, the word idea is good...instead of auto-quit, I can make it "mapper goto <insert room # here>", so you can make it go to manor or crecall, and it'll use the mapper's smarts to get there knowing the recallability
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: just needs to get me outta icefal
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: but I would think the game should just autoput you into nogain when afk.  Instead of it being illegal, like im trying to stel the 1k exp i gain in a roo of icefall
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: pick other are, entry room in slopes are no-recall, and to some extent no-flee
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: can you go to noexp when in middle of a fight?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: and if so would that be illegal?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the problem with the game doing that, limunious, is that you're actually NOT afk as far as the game knows
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the reason that you don't get auto-logged-out is that MUSHclient is actively sending stuff to Aard as if you're at the keys
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and aard doesn't know if it's MUSHclient or the person at the keys
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ugh
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: sorry i know this sounds like a pain in the ass, but im not trying to manipulate the system or do soething im not allowed.  I just wanna be able to log in and pup!
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: go instead to oceanpark - no aggros, so in case of afk you just finish room you started
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: or IF floor - also no aggros
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: can we set up something that uses what the imms use?  or if im in combat and not attacking or sometihng! lol
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: First time you are caught in an agro room by an imm is passeble, second time is dangerous, third time is near nuke. Point of story is, IMMs are not soulless freaks lurking around every corner to catch you out.. They are pretty leniant, BUT dont let it get to be a habbiit.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: some trigger I have is preventing certain sentences from being sent to the game. I have no idea what the pattern is. Any idea how to turn on an option that shows what things get triggered? Is it trace, which has a huge text wall?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: some trigger I have is preventing certain sentences from being sent to the game. I have no idea what the pattern is. Any idea how to turn on an option that shows what things get triggered? Is it trace, which has a huge text wall?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: whoops, sorry. apparently, that is not the trigger! :)
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: if you know what sentences are prevented you can turn on the echocommand and do that sentence
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's preventing things from being sent to the game, then it's probably an alias and not a trigger
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just as a guess, are you trying to send "a"?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err "p"?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: nope, neither
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Zoot Tech: i had that problem on test port just this morning because newbie me had made an 'm alias for morticand (or however it's spelled) so every time i typed i'm in a sentence i'd say morticand, very annoying
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: is there a way to purge all cexits in a single area?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc you could purge the entire area, or can purge all cexits, but I don't think there's a purge cexit here
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can list all of the cexits in the area using mapper cexits here though
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: I'm looking through the mapper help and seeing mapper delete cexits and mapper purge cexits... the purge appears to remove every single one of your cexits
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: got it and why my sentences were being prevented to the game. 1) alias 2) some stupid alias was match="tm" and regexp="y"
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: send_to="12" then prevented it
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, very-short aliases can be dangerous when they're not anchored
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Is there a good tutorial for learning how to create windows? I hacked a copy of Fiendish's comms window but I need to learn to do this so I can make modifications
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: I have three of Fiendish's windows, capturing different channels
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/mushclient/mw_intro.htm
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish's comms window is a pretty aggressive window, feature-wise...but he has a tutorial on duplicating that for other channels
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for regular windows where you're either capturing stuff or sending stuff to the window, my usual is to hack the minimap window
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: His window is really great. I am using it to output non comms stuff. Think stuff like what bast does
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Nods, minimap is honestly the easiest to hack around with
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, for non-comms stuff I'd use minimap
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: And it gives a pretty good example of dependant triggers
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: oh minimap would be great. but then I would just need a scrollbar
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: and Cheez, I did bookmark your link
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: it's not a huge resource, but it's something
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Also decent: http://www.mushclient.com/mushclient/mw_creation.htm
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, the thing that starting from Fiendish's stuff gives you is that it'll work with "resetaard", and the front/back stuff with ther rest of Fiendish's stuff
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, but then you've gotta figure out where all that side affectiness comes from :P
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Who is ready for 1,230,921,293,002,423 questions? >.<
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You point at Asperger's Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: INT_OVERFLOW_ERROR
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: COuldn't get mm2k6 to do everything I needed so
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: sorry I can only handle 1,230,921,293,002,422
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: So, I am stuck with Mush >.<
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rofl, I didn't know mm ever went past mm2k
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: What client is that even?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I ran mm2k6, but there is a reboot of mm2k13
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: mudmaster?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but for Aard, you'll be soooo much happier with MUSHclient than MM2k
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Nod, I just need to learn one of the offered languages.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Go with lua
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tbh, there's not all that much which hasn't already been made and published for getting a pretty slick setup started
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Ok, so, with using just the command prompt
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: How much would make an alias that when I type pp , it will hammerspin
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: You can use mush from the CLI with a proxy, but as far as CLI clients, TT++ and TF come out of the box with player built scripts available.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: -much
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I prefer to script myself, so I learn vs ride someones back >.<
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want typing "pp" to do hammerswing, then just type "alias pp hammerswing" ;-)
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: So are you using the GUI at all?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: but as abe said, Aard has a built in alias command :P
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Didn't work? Said Unknown command. I copy/pasted your msg, without the smilely
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you truly want it to be a MUSHclient alias, then type "#alias {pp} {hammerswing}
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: no quotes
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Only if he has Fiendish's aard, Abe
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Yeah, I juard got Mush-aard
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: just*
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Ok, then you can do what he said.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Ok, I like that a lot more.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Using the # operator
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: it's not really an operator :P
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: it's just an alias to create aliases
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: If you go to your aliases you'll see it there.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Would it be possible to change the # to an /?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Update the alias :PO
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: IF possible
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to game -> config -> aliases...
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I would like to be able to use / to start my triggers/aliases/etc
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: or alt-shift-9 i think
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: fiendish has done so many addons to Mush. Is his real job a programmer?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: A lot of us have that title :P
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: This is a MUD after all :P
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I think he's still on a really long vacation
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (like years long)
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: what title. programmer?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Ok, now making aliases and triggers mimick mm2k6. Yay!
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Programmer, Engineer, CS Major ... All the flavors of codenerds
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Under the alias field where it stated #alias (*) (*)...I changed the # to an /...expecting it will alias the / to the #? 
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: I don't understand the question..
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I am trying to get to be able to script aliases/triggers with /alias {*} {*}
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: anyone know the command to lock window locations?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Then that's what the match should look like
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: what you just pasted
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard layout lock
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Didn't know about that one, locking that one away for future reference.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that works perfectly for me, savocktal...I typed "/alias {foo} {bar}" and it returned "Added alias to match of 'foo', sending 'bar'
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: Abe, is there any reason why this would not be in effect the next time i open mush?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it can't save the state files
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: I usually only saw that when running from a cloud file location, though
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: after you get them where you want, also try ctrl-s
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Where it had multiple version of the state file and lost it's will to survive
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: ok.. i'm about to post a note in tech with links to screenshots of intermitent errors i'm getting apon opening mush.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Grumble
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Just pastebin the errors
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Mine isn't working, even thou in alias/trigger, I changed the # to /
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Copy/paste the literal string
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: /alias {pp} {hammerswing}
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: /alias {*} {*}
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: then to call it, you do what you pasted
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: What's the match string from the alias
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Yes, that is what it shows inside alias tab Cheez
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Which?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: /alias {*} {*}
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: and I am trying to use the alias I posted earlier
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Yet
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Ok, and when you type /alias {foo} {bar} what do you get?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Before I changed it
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: #alias {pp} {hammerswing} worked fine
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it just worked for me when I pasted your hammerswing
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Yeah me too
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: So type "pp"
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Sorry for the all questions, ladies/gentlemen. This is a brand new beast for me
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: And it should send "hammerswing", you can also type "echocommand" to turn on MUDside echo of what it's receiving from you
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Run-time errorWorld: AardwolfImmediate execution[string "Command line"]:1: attempt to call global 'alias' (a nil value)stack traceback:
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: That is what I see.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: Alias...
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: did you spell it right, and is it in scope?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Hrm, I see.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Kinda
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I swapped the # for a /
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: but typing alias {x} {x} works
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: W/o using the / I wanted
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you must've changed something else
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: You enabled regex...
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Either disable it or change `/` to `//` in the file
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: alias*
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Oh wait no, nvm
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: You changed your script prefix to `/` didn't you?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Motherf
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: >.<
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: *snicker* I'd just leave that as the default `///`
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Kk, lemme go change it to "Ahole"
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what that does, is that whenever you type something starting with "/", it will try to RUN that as if it were scripts
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good catch cheez :-)
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: The "executeImmediate" was what gave it away.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: So, like with mm2k6
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: a script would look like 
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: or trigger/wtf
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: here is one.. http://pasteboard.co/Dwzuki7RM.jpg
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: http://pasteboard.co/DwAiR5GMc.jpg
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scripts are using scripting languages....aliases are "I type something easy, it does other stuff", and triggers are "the MUD sends stuff, and it does some stuff"...aliases and triggers can have scripts in their "body"
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: your state files are borked
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: /action {%1 answers %2} {/showother {ChannelViewerSide.mms}} {nsiBold()oreGreen()$1nsiReset() answered nsiBold()oreCyan() $2}
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: That would be to send answers to another window
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: how do i resolve the borkideness
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Type @@ to get @
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: in all honesty...probably just re-install it
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd move the files giving you the error and redo the settings on that particular plugin
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: How long does timer variable count by?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: seconds?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: but it can take decimal values as well
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: How would I like check help timer from prompt?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: What is the precursor?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: That's not one of the prebuilt aliases
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: or help commands
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Asking Mush, not Aard
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Right, there hasn't been an alias created for that
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Ok, so, best place to go to learn about Mush or Lua, whichever I need to learn to script this beast? :P
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Mush was never really built as a command-line-only app. It relies heavily on it's GUI. Players (Fiendish mostly) have created aliases to allow command line commands, but only for variable, trigger, and alias, i believe.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I see
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: here is my big question.. why would it not toss me errors every time i start mush? why only ever so often?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: With mm2k6, you can use /help "x" and literally scripting anything
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the context-sensitive help in MUSH is very good
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Asperger's Cheezburger nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so when you're in timers, click help and you'll get help on all the stuff in the timers window
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I will more question later, time to spend time with my lil girl.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Thank you all for your help.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Does mush still have the help window for all the Mush-Lua-Interface calls?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: That thing was so fantastic when I was scripting MUSH.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, http://abelinc.me/winhlp32 (Vista through 8.1) and http://abelinc.me/w10help (W10) if you're having trouble using the MUSHclient help :-)
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Ok, so, Volcano is has been made, gotta wait for wifooo before I make it erupt!
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: So
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I am trying to create an alias with multiple functions.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: How would I make an alias like alias {mana} {get lotus bag/quaff lotus}
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want to do it from the command line, I'd do it as ";/alias {mana} {get lotus bag ; quaff lotus}"
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: do I need the semicolon before it? If so, why?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, OR you can double the later semicolons
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Also, do I need to space before and after the semicolons in the middle?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the semicolon is the "command separator" character by default...there are 2 ways to bypass its use (other than turning off parsing)...one is to double every semicolon tyhat you don't want to split...the other is to start the entire line with a semicolon
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the spaces aren't required, but I prefer them for readability
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Ok, I see.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: When I type alias, I see {mana}              :  {get lotus bag
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Well, I see the alias I put in
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Yet, when I type mana, nothing happens
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Gosh, this is so confusing >.<
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you type "alias" you see it? that sounds like you didn't have the / after the ; at the start of creating the alias
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Fml
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it made a game-side alias of "{mana}" (where the {} are part of it)
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: You are correct :(
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: This is making me feeling like a damn idiot 
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Not that I don't appreciate the help, just being newb at it is ugh.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Ok, so I think I have aliases underwraps.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: A trigger would work like 
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: err
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: How do I post semi-colons to public chat? What is the symbol to cancel them out? :P
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: ;;
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Gotcha
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: So, an example trigger should be
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: /;{Sequence} ; {Actions}
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Correct?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Aka /;trigger {A moose appears} 
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Aka /;trigger {A moose appears} ; {kill moose}
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Although, an illegal trigger
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: That would work?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: are you talking about zmud?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Lua I guess
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Using lua through mush
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Just cannot find an examples online, just insanely complicated read throughts with no actual scripts.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: any
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Is where I am looking atm
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: typing that would like send a / and then trigger {A moose is here} {kill moose} immediately to the mud, it wouldnt create a trigger
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: likely*
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: to create a trigger go to game->configure->triggers
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I prefer command prompting scripts mostly. The feel of it makes me feel better >.<
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best way to cancel the ;s out is to start the line with one rather than doubling them...that way you only ever have one extra
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Can someone just post a trigger example?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Per haps, when hungry/thirsty, you can mind over body
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: truly, though, that #alias and #trigger are just a hack put in place to make people who already use zmud feel more comfortable
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those are NOT normal MUSHclient commands
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Where couldl I find true commands then I guess?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Mushclient has me so confused atm, I would almost rather lose all the cool stuff just so I know wth I am doing.
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the MUSHclient helps
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which I pointed you to earlier
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Been sitting here for around an hour doing nothing >.<
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the true command to add an alias is AddAlias()
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Oooo
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I found the help functions list!
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Afk for 30928484 hours
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's what cheezburger was talking about at 16:36:20
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I never claimed to be the sharpest tool in the shed :(
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone know where to find the plugin that reports stats after leveling/campaigning/questing?
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast for his statdb, or finger hadar for an updated version of Opochtli's sharptracker
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: hardar.ninja
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: thank you. I wil check out bast. Hadar has some youtube link
T3/r7/2017-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: hadar.ninja go to the bottom and click on scripts
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: is anyone aware of existing code that gags a prompt if it is a repeat of the previous?
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: nope, most people dont even use prompt anymore
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i use mine :(
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i just learned to ignore it when im not using it
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: I use mine too... Didn't know most people didn't :P
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I like prompt because i can see how fast health is going down
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: me too. I like the pretty colors
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you can see that through gmcp anyways
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: on another topic, if anyone is around good with content creation (photoshop/gimp/whatever) if you could contact me that would be great
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: GMCP as in the stock bar  with health/mana/moves?
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: not the pretty colors
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: stock bar sure..
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: as you can do lots of things with that..stock bar :)
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: ideally gaging dupe prompts and dupe blanks would be amazing
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: so make a quick plugin or trigger that does that, should be quick enough if you are not going to realease it
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I am trying to find the syntax to check how many seconds are left on an active timer. Any know?
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: and also, does disable then enable a timer reset its countdown?
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: For using Mush, I am trying to figure out how to create something like this
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Get amulet bag, wear amulet, (variable the weapon removed), enter,remove amulet, wear (variable) as an alias
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: One command should perform that, if any confusion
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: start by making an variable with the name of the weapon
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I want the variable to be floating tho
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: The variable is *what* weapon I remove
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: in the variable, that is, then make the alias and on the right hands side check expand variable. prefix the variable with and it works
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: you don't actually need to put the weapon's name in a var, wear all will equip it because it's topmost in your inv (since you just removed it)
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: that is what i was about to comment on, jsut couldn't remember if it was the way i remember
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: but if actually want to put it into a var, you'll need to create a trigger that does the assignment
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: inv acts like a stack, when you remove an item, it goes to the top
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Ahh, nice. Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Anyone heard of a script that opens another window and shows damage dealt/received each round in a single line output: IE: Output:(X)/Taken:(Y)
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: something like damage 5?
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: haven't hard of it
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: any way to off NPC input into the comms log mushclient
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: not for me
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if npc uses channels normally, they go already into comms log.
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Goota love NPC spam in 'Say'
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Gotta even XD
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: isn't there a mobsay option or something
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: If you mean to omit NPC....well you need to have some form of player/NPC filter....which requires knowing the name of all players on the MUD in a database.....
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the mud already tells you it's a mob
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Hrm, go zones 85 05 evil with tons of mobs that haven't been hit more or harder then Rhianna? (No pun intended Christ Brown)
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Any*
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Err that was meant for question channel but, cocaine is helluva drug
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: how can i reset the gui for s&d window cant seem to reach the corner with the mouse arrow.?
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: try aardreset or resetaard never can remember which it is or look in the xml file for the reset command
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: but that will reset all window positions
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: according to sd help
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: aah that worked thanks almilia. thanks you to shindo
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Titmouse Tussin Tech: lol at AWS, what a crap storm
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Titmouse Tussin Tech: looooool at the highlighted: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5xsnh2XMAIbzR3.jpg
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: failure
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: So, with lua, it looks like I can create a script and function that searches Ansi Yellow colored text, trying to use the kill command on each, using an if statement, causing it to stop if the result is Your "weapon damage type" is a true statement.
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: That should be fun
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Pair it with a alias, and you never need to figure out target names unless you are trying to kill "certain" mobs
T3/r7/2017-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: im using MUSH, and recently its showing ASCII map on my main log window every room i enters, is there any way to remove it?
T3/r7/2017-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: erm, anyone knows what is the command to reset the interface of MUSH?
T3/r7/2017-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am working on a spactial allocation problem of residential housing. Anyone have any experience with this type of problem?
T3/r7/2017-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am mostly looking for a good point of reference so I can begin
T3/r7/2017-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: how do you turn on msp on mush client
T3/r7/2017-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: how do I tell mapper the first room of an area?
T3/r7/2017-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: xset mark
T3/r7/2017-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: When I try to go go to fractured lands, it automatically enters pearl..
T3/r7/2017-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: ty!
T3/r7/2017-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Minor quibble - that's not the mapper. Its likely a plugin like xrt included with S and D
T3/r7/2017-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: mapper ninja?
T3/r7/2017-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: might be that
T3/r7/2017-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: how do I put a delay on cexit?
T3/r7/2017-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: nm! found it
T3/r7/2017-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: cexit_wait [seconds] (usually combined with wait([seconds]))
T3/r7/2017-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not sure the second part is in the mapper help anywhere
T3/r7/2017-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lined Tech: anyway to install help for the client??
T3/r7/2017-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Comfy Anaristos Tech: you can follow the windows procedure for installing the legacy help reader.
T3/r7/2017-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: seems silly that it was left out at all :p
T3/r7/2017-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lined Tech: ya thats where it led me, will do roger that
T3/r7/2017-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lined Tech: ya thats where it led me, will do roger that
T3/r7/2017-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lined Tech: whoops
T3/r7/2017-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lined Tech: is it a .hlp ext?
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: What's the script command to send a command to world?  tried world.send("look")
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: Send  notice the capital
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: lua is a stickler for case with everything
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I am trying to figure out how to loop through the array in search & destroy to retrieve the mob name. I want to be able to highlight the campaign mob name on a scan. Any advice/instruction on the array in s&d?
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: get basts highlight plugin
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: no need for arrays :P
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I guess you need modify S&D
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: but what for, just type "qs"
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: it is way better than highlight
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: highlight scans for multiple mobs, qs only the one you are searching
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I see, multiple mobs
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: highlights all the mobs in your campaign / quest.. so you run searching for your quest mob and see in scan your campaign mobs highlighted... easy to go back and destroy instead of searching with hunttrick etc
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: 1) Yes, bast already did this! 2) I overlooked qs 3) I just really couldn't figure out how to loop to get the actua name. 4) It sounds like I don't need to write anything
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also you have qw, it is usually faster that ht
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: and qw also can show wrong mobs
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse P
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse :P
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: sometimes you know there is only a single mob
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I use it for killing high exp mobs like: sleep, ht greed, wak, qw, go 1, kill greed, qw, go 1, kill greed till all are dead
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: and that loop would be like: for key, value in ipairs(cpList) do Note(key) Note (value) end
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I tried that way and got a index global 'list' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eyre Tech: Anyone home?
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eyre Tech: the mud is spitting this out at me: {recon}9,1412 -- any idea how I can modify/remove it?
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: is there a live dam tracker miniwin plugin?
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: anyone have a plugin or know of a plugin that displays average kills per minute and exp/min?
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: i have written triggers for it. not hard at all
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: You mean statmon?
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: hmm is there any of them that display it live in a miniwin?
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: Azaghal, you look rich. lets ask someone to write it and share the cost?
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lord Azaghal nods at Umpalumpa.
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: and ask for more people to share the qp/tp cost
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: id like to have it graphical
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: not number
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: numbers*
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: numbers are for geeks
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I use mushclient on both a desktop system at home and a laptop when I'm on the road and I'd like to have both systems access and update the same mapper db.  Is there a recommended way to handle that?  If I throw Aardwolf.db on dropbox and symlink to it from the MUSHclient directory, is that safe?  Are there any other files I would need to share?  Alternatively, I could throw the whole MUSHclient directory on dropbox but then I'd need some way to differentiate which window preferences I would use (laptop has much less screen real estate.)  Is the mushclient_prefs.sqlite the only thing I'd need to keep separate in that situation?  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: no tl;dr? :p
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowse Tech: TLDR How do I share my mushclient profile across multiple systems
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: ive heard of people using dropbox for their db. there is no other file needed by the mapper to modify unless something has drastically changed in recent versions.
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: the important part is not having multiple clients trying to open the db at the same time
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Thanks, that makes sense.  Only one system would be active at once.
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: sorry that i don't have more specifics. i've not done it myself.
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Heh, if mushclient starts smoking I won't blame you :P
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I had minor issues running everything out of dropbox, warnings and errors about plugin state files not updating or something like that.
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ok, seems like it's worth a shot.  Worst case is that I revert to a backup db.  Thanks everyone!
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i definitely don'trecommend running the whole client out of a dropbox
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yep, I'm just planning to share the .db file and some lua scripts
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: scripts might be iffy because of savestates
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: they won't want to point to the right directories
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Don't worry about the lua code.  It's just some test code I'm playing with and it's not sophisticated enough right now to even deal with save states ;)
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i've run mushclient out of dropbox for years, it works
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looking at -h, Eyre's question about {recon}9,1412 would be fixed by typing "tags spellups off"...if anyone knows them or sees them later, please pass that along :-)
T3/r7/2017-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: regarding kills/min and exp/min, cheeck out things like Opochtli's Sharptracker (Hadar updated it) or Bast's statdb and statmonitor...neither uses a miniwin, but that wouldn't be too much to add, and they can push data into comm log periodically (even without using shared channels)
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: how do i reset my s&d mini window
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: i moved it off screen a little to far and now i cant get a hold of it again to move it back
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caesarr Tech: reinstall the plugin maybe
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: or "try" xset gui reset
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: wish my memory worked
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: if all else fails find the xml file and read the header, often the command are right at the top
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: sometimes "You FAIL to retreat!" message is not shown and the combat just goes on. is this some client issue or ..?
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endicott Tech: What would be the regex to capture 'where <mob>' responses?
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it would be amiguous and you would catch all sorts of random garbage in it
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endicott Tech: How does the search and destroy plugin do wheres, then?
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: unless you spawn a regex that specifically looks for  mobname(\s*) (*.)
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: S&D makes a new regex per where command
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: which includes the actual mob name
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endicott Tech: Ah. I was afraid that was the case. 
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endicott Tech: Thanks for the tip!
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: np
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: is there a way to change the command seperator on the command line?
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: mush
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: Commands->Command stacking?
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: Is that what you're looking for?
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although I wouldn't recommend changing the command separator for MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (old question, but important enough to still say ;-)
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: now that was a delayed response.
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the issue is that it will break all sorts of other things, because it's presumed to be the case...any number of plugins would already be written to use ;s, and any cexits or portals that you have in mapper, etc.
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I have this cool plugin that changes all of my a's to e's i's to u's and semicolons to colons
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all of a sudden op e ; e would no longer be correct
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone want it?
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at Yajan.
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: say what
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it's pretty sweet
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: seems thet would be a pute
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I could add some custom stuff to it that would do things with spaces if you'd like
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: maybe remove them all or something
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's actually a normal function in tinyfugue ;-)
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: lol nice
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "/help tr".../TR <domain> <range> <string>...<Domain> and <range> are lists of characters of equal length.  Each character in <string> that appears in <domain> is translated to the corresponding character in <range>, and the resulting string is printed.
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Example: command: /def biff = /tr OIS.  01Z! $[toupper({*})]
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: command: /biff TinyFugue is cool wares, dude.
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: output: T1NYFUGUE 1Z C00L WAREZ, DUDE!
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: it'd be closer to reality if it was probabilistic... select only a few characters in the domain to map to the range per instance or something
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so /def do_yajan = /tr ai; eu: %* would do what your plugin does :-)
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: who's doin me?!
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox raises [Outlaw] Mendaloth's hand.
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ohhh this was all explanation of the plugin cool cool
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: wasn't sure if we were on that
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice at Yajan, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: any way to set the AK command to backstab instead of just attack?
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: alias k * to bs %1
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: AK is not a command, it's an alias,  guessing this is a plugin like S&D?
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: hmm...where do I set that alias?
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: Not in game, right?
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: yeah, if you're using mushclient (assuming you are for S&D), make a mushclient alias
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: so I made one called, "Ak" and when I type Ak in the room, it outputs: Backstab <nextline> k vamp def (for vampire defender)
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: so it's just making a new alias over the one that is likely set up from mapper?
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: But how do I get it to backstab the target? 
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: don't make an "ak" one, make a "k *" one...
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: then ak will call your k alias
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: So the aias would be triggered by typing k *?
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: AHH! it worked!
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: You're a genius!
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: I dont know how, but it worked 8)
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: still don't understand aliases 8)
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: behind the scenes, ak (with no arguments) ends up calling k <mob>... and it will call your alias if you have a "k *" alias
T3/r7/2017-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luara Tech: oooo
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endicott Tech: How does one set the trigger flag for AddTriggerEx() to one-shot? They gave a list for all the other flags except it.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endicott Tech: Never mind. Found it. It's 32768 as parameter
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: nice number, 2^15 :)
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endicott Tech: Yeah. Just noticed they were in exponents of two c:
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: which Bast plugin assists with quests and campaigns?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: events
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: can I click on it and it will take me to the room and everything?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: that's S&D, not a bast plugin
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: It just tracks what you need to do and where
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: the events one only displays quest info not cp and when I added the cp minwin nothing popped up
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you have to take your cp from the cp dude in town unless you modify it yoursel
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: I rt campaign then added the bast plugin afterwards
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: oh then it's not going to work till you take a new cp or quit relog
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: thanks shindo
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: NP
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: how do I fix S&D runto errors?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: xset mark
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: to set the first room
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would depend on what those errors are...
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: when I'm in the area?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: Alias function "xrun_to" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: if you haven't mapped all the custom exits it's not going to work well
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reload S&D
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's the common error due to the database change, and he'll have to get the S&D plugin from Nokfah's finger.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, thanks for that arcidayne...I figured he'd been normally working, but encountered an error now
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: So I should delete the current one?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: replace it
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winklewinkle did "a bad thing" for how he made the xset mark work...
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: semi botting I take it?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Anyone who has S&D should switch to Nokfah's anyway, if they haven't already, since Winkle's used the database, and he really shouldn't have, since it can change. :p
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, the semi-botting thing is a different discussion, I was commenting on the part that is broken for you
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: instead of storing "the first room" data in S&D, he commandeered a field in the shipped mapper database...that field no longer exists, which is why it's broken for you
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Winkle used the "date_added" column in the Aardwolf.db for the mapper. He shouldn't have. Fiendish removed that column in later versions, and it messed S&D up.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nokfah changed S&D to store the first room in plugin variables, so it'll always be in S&D's control
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: One last thing, I can't find my own "variables as stated in the ReadMe for the fix
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the state file
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: should I replace my own one or edit it?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: replace
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: alright thank you
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: should I restart my mush for the changes to take place
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: everything is working fine so far so thank you very much for all the help
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: does aardwolf_group_monitor have a sort by health option
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doubt it...does right-clicking yield anything?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: nope. 
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Is there a way to have a trigger that default to omit_put = "n" but allow a function to decide to gag the line that was triggered?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It's not quite what you asked for, but could you instead omit by default and have your function echo the line if you want it displayed?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I like that plan!
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan wildly high fives the air, looking very foolish -- very foolish indeed.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yah but this line has many colors that I would have to rebuild on echo
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: maybe one trigger with a lower sequence number that enables/disables a later trigger that gags it? idk if that would work
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I am triggering off changes in the prompt. So if it changes by X, I want to see the new prompt; otherwise, gag
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: anyone know an easy way to detect 2 dimensianal collision in polygons?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: http://www.metanetsoftware.com/technique/tutorialA.html
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: checking it out now
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: heh, I wish is was for somehting easy liek a game
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: draw a bounding box for the braod phase, then go point by point for the refine phase...
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: what kind of resolution do you require?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: what do you require, My Liege
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: the overlap will be calculated something to the tune of a hundred thousand times a cylce.. heh
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: you're fucked. scale.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: thing of tesselation of a large object but tesselating it with a knapsack alg that is filled by a dikjstra look alike
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: nothing like doing someone elses research, lol
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: yeah, you're not gonna get an answer on here...that's way too high level.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LeafGuider Waker Tech: does anyone please know if there is a spell check in aard mush?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: what are you using for this?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: fortran, c++?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: there are bunches on white papers on this though.  If you have access to an accademic search engine, you should be good. 
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: There's a checkbox for "Spell Checker" under global prefs, general. IDK how to use it though.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am doing it in python now for the research then C later
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: heheh, making a toy problem in python becuase I know it will die under a heavy load
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: well good luck...I can't help you as I don't know enough...
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I saw a python eat a mouse once
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: the language is inconsequential. I am stumbling a little more than I would like on the math
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: whoa
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sorry for not listening.. but what are you doing?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ok I read
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: some languages are definitely better suited to that than python
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sounds like something matlab would work well for
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: has a ton of built in things for transformations and what not
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: lots of mathy built in functions
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: matlab might be nice, but I only really have access to sage math and other free things, heh
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Is matlab the same as scilab?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: sage math sits on python 2.6 so I am goign to proto it in python, then move it over to C for the paper
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: there's gotta be libs that do what you need
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: are you able to break down your problem a bit more?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: doesn't seem like anything "new"
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I was only asking for help with figuring out a computationally easy way to check for overlapping objects, as it will need to be checked many times per loop
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: mapper purge cexits? it doesnt specify if its all or area
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I believe it's ALL of them.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: is there a way to remove an area's cexits without being in specific rooms?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it's all I think
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I wouldn't use it
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You could purge the entire area, then remap it
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: isn't it all cexits?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super-Swag Vinatia Tech: cant you mapper delete cexits in that room?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I don't mean the cexits, I mean you could drop the entire map for the area. Drastic move, tho.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: thats a super scary command to give without clear description on the help
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ohhh
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: dropping one area isn't that bad
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: mapper purge cexits will delete every cexit. Don't use it.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peaceful Wars Tech: you can backup yoru database first
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you're familiar with SQL, you could open the mapper database and delete the cexits you want. Close Mushclient before you do that, though.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: just be careful when doing deletes if you're not the familiar with SQL..
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Definitely do a "select" first, make sure it's right
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: easy to essentially delete everything if you're not careful
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: yah imma not mess with it.. just gunna do by room
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: and be even more careful with deletes if you are familiar with SQL :P
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shelkin Tech: Got QA?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hehe yeah.. I've got myself into trouble knowing just enough
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: mapper cexits here in area, then move to room and mapper delete cexit
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: close out mush and make a copy first!
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if you want more, just delete your whole mapper database.. which I do not recommend
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Jesus, I thought dropping an area was drastic
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: why remove exits from area if you only want cexits removed. just delete whole database :)
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: just delete mush and end your life?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: we do not recommend ending your life, since you can always download mush again :P
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, and you can always donate to the mud
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and vote
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not beneficial
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Make sure you tell Lasher that you're donating under my name, though.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse nods at Arcidayne.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: can I somehow add if level x cast spell or else ignore in alias?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: In mushclient? Yes.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sure.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: a client alizs
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: alias*
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: tell meeee
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Quite demanding...
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: me me me
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's not built in, you'd need to create that functionality yourself. Or find a plugin that already does it.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Like a petulent 2 year old throwing a tantrum.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't need a plugin.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Just create the alias and callplugin from there, compare level, and cast whatever spell.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: if you don't have an integrated spellup system, then the spellup command is more for you. You can then use forgetskill
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Totally off base, Anaristos.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He wants to cast a spell if he's at a certain level, or ignore the alias otherwise.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: I was thinking more of a PK alias that ignore unlearned spells instead of trying to cast them
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvothe Tech: would trying to cast unlearned spells actually spend "my turn" in a fight? Is there a delay for that? or no worries?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: some spells are nofail
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: but there is a time penalty, yes.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: most spells have 3 second delay. 
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: that is round for most marts
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: parts
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I am still toying with the ability gag duplicate prompts if the values didn't change. I tried echo but it stacks with commands and thus lags. I tried colour note but it only does one colour. Any other techniques/ideas?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: you can always turn the prompt off and rely on you stats window info.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If you want more colors, use ColorTell
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if (gagged prompt == newprompt) ignore
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if prompt changes, it's not same as old prompt
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: I'd like to know the usefulness of that.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I think the idea is to not show information that isn't that helpful
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so only show prompt if there was a significant change
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: useful? not he just wants to show new prompt if old prompt is nto the same
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: whatever data the prompt displays can be found elsewhere more easily.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: anaristos, dont go there, I told the same week ago, and he still tries to find scripts for it :P
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: are you talking about me? All my projects up to this are done
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: removing prompt and relying on mushclient would do the freaking thing
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: just wondering about your prompt comparison scheme.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: oh yeah that. no it wouldnt. I want to see the data changing
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: gmcp changes faster than prompt shows up :P
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: the data does change on the window also if it changes on the prompt.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: If my health goes from 14,000, to 5,000, then 4,000, 3,500...I like seeing that scroll on my screen
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: So do I, so I rely on mush gmcp thingie
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: oh, then. Grab the GMCP data and do it with that. The prompt idea has to be 100 times slower.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: writing same thing on based on prompt.. sheesh
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Where are you displaying the scrolling changes? In the main window?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: where you want
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: anyway, if you enjoy what you are doing, I am not going to get in your way :)
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just write a new window if you want
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Ideally, I would have it in the main window, like the prompt, unless it isn't possible. I can't find the technique to put it in the main window and also use multiple colors
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: gmcp health window
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: forget everything eles
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah honestly, that's probably best
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: the one that comes with mush? it doesn't scroll.it shows only one window
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: comm log has a function "showFromOutside" that you could copy
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: will allow you to push color coded stuff to a window
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: (I don't know if that's the name exactly)
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: might be store from outside
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: and how would the window get the info? probably doing it by itself or .. FFS it gets it from the gmcp handler from where you could do it yourself if you dont want to get info as it is
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just saying. forget the wheel, it has been invented already
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Nuanse, I understand you and I understand how to work with GMCP. What I am hoping for people to understand is to tell me if it is or is not possible to have this happen in the main window so i can see the history scrolling with the combat
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not sure which is fastest, you could continuously poll for character status and then get gmcp data if present
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: read gmcp handler. it has it all there
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: or trigger off of prompt and take info from there or directly from gmcp
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: do not try to invet the wheel again
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: by my wheel is roundest!
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan frowns at himself.  What a sad puppy....
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: GMCP handler tells me how to show 5 colors on one line in the main window? ColourNote and Note do not
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: If you reinvent the wheel, you'll find yourself on TT++ like me.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: handler shows you where to get info you want in itself
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: colour? colournote help should do you enough
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Nuanse, I understand how to use the handler and I already do it for a bunch of stuff. My question is about sending info to the main window, with colours....
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if you know gmcp handler, why in HELL would you want to grab any prompts? what are in prompt that is slower than gmcp that you need?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: colournote is monochrome, I want mroe than one. OK I really appreciate ppl looking. Plz send tell if you have an idea
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: it can be done, as part of the mush script. Look at the function list. Scripting for mush is similar to scripting for windows.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: well, not scripting, the Win32 app, rather.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: prompt and gmcp handler both give info, colournote has nothing to do with them. the note function needs info you get from the earlier ones
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I can only read half this convo - because of spam but maybe colourtell?
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: though Gammon recommends Lua, you can do it in javascript also.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: you can look at how the plugins are coded as a guide to how it is done.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hrungnir Tech: anyone have the search and destroy plugin by winklewinkle? "ht" / "ah" are not scrolling upwards in numbers like the plugin is supposed to.
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: no, but sometimes I picture myself as one of this Roombas Searching and Destroying Dust Bunnies..
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hrungnir Tech: interesting thing to imagine yourself as
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I know right
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan . o O ( I wonder if one could get paid to be a Troll... )
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: my nubile flesh.. so.. sensitive
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hrungnir Tech: better capture this for your resume
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: haha
T3/r7/2017-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ugh why do tech and ftalk have the same color coding..
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkyr Tech: hey all, i was told theres a plug in for the aard mush client that keeps track of your campaign mobs. is this a thing?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Aye it is
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkyr Tech: how/where do i find it?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: What you need to get it is only climb atop the highest mountain and scream for Bast!
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: or just google him
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I mean if you are going to play a text based game at least do *some* work for it
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ;)
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Bast has a nice one for keeping track and Winkle has one for doing it for you.. pick wisely
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkyr Tech: doing what for me.... the campaign?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: essentially
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkyr Tech: tempting, but think i'm gonna go for the bast one for now, might as well still play the game for the first tier
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: good choice
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: choose option C. go for broke and code all your own stuff!
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ;) Thats what the pros do
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkyr Tech: still tier 0, give it time.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i just break my own stuff, then once broken tell people to use it and tell me why its broken
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Ah, the microsoft ideology
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkyr Tech: now i have to figure out how to install this..
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: three twists to the left, a quarter turn up and there we have it!
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hrungnir Tech: if you downloaded plugin docs, and have the stanard mushclient download from the aardwolf homepage, the plugin files go in the world - plugin folder
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hrungnir Tech: then file, plugin add (name of the plugin file)in the mush client
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkyr Tech: ah.. 
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkyr Tech: everything is loaded, the miniwin for the cp is enabled, but how do I actually get it to show on my screen
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkyr Tech: nvm.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkyr Tech: thanks for all the ehelp
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: does bast have a anti auto quit function?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: from idling too long
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh hi
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: kind of yes, the spellup script does t hat as long as you are not sleeping
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I don't know why you'd want to waste the mud's bandwidth
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: everyone does it
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: those who are afk but never log off
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if everyone eat a Gigabyte would you do it Frav?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: with or without chili sauce?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: the auto-quit is just long enough to clear your quest timer
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: Yajan might as well track down everyone else who does it and ask them that
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan looks at Shindo and goes "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: you just make a trigger for Your eyes glazer over.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: and you're set
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: your eyes glaze over like 2 jelly donuts.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: If I ask someone who has explored all the rooms in the game for their variables, will my S&D be able to find every room now?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkyr Tech: anyone else have trouble with baasts plugins not working? specifically the cp mob one? 
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: did you go to commanader
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: oops commander bartlet for your campaign?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkyr Tech: no, questor
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you need to modify it or use barlet for it to work
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkyr Tech: oh.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkyr Tech: yesteday it was working with questor... just dumb luck?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: if you log back in it will probably work
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: if after you start a quest you log on and off it works but that's a bad way to get it to work
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: but i would guess it doesn't work for new cps
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkyr Tech: close out the mush and relog?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: yes, but lose keys
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkyr Tech: hmm,
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: you can just close mush (go linkdead) and reconnect and not lose anything
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: unless you ctr+shft+k
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkyr Tech: whats control shift k?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: look at the connections menu ...
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: then you don't have to restart mush just your session and it should work
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkyr Tech: ah, that didnt work.. looks like its a restart mush necessity
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaya Zyanya Tech: Can anyone give advice on how to reduce mush startup lag. It's ridiculous, takes up to 30 minutes to open
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 30 minutes?!?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: never heard it before..
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you on a 386?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaya Zyanya Tech: 4.98
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (I meant a computer from the 80s)
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: is you cpu a flash drive?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaya Zyanya Tech: flash
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: running your connection through a bag phone?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anaya Zyanya snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaya Zyanya Tech: no 
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since MUSHclient normally starts in seconds, is there anything "special" about your setup?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaya Zyanya Tech: Nope.. However I have noticed it takes a while to load basts plug-ins
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and does it say anything when it's delayed? do you have the splash screen or anything up?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaya Zyanya Tech: Yeah that's up and it's loading plugins
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: download a fresh zipfile from Fiendish's github and start that one up, see how long it takes
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: then it is easy to reduce the lag. Load less plugins
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaya Zyanya Tech: don't have 100 plug-in loaded though.. Far less loaded than I had a couple of years ago
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaya Zyanya Tech: but I'll try that, Abelinc. Thanks 
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't have to actually log into that one, just see how long it takes to get to the login screen...if it's normal, then copy the "extra" plugins from yours a few at a time to see if/when the delays return
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaya Zyanya Tech: moved it to cdrive and it loaded properly. Thank you 
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what drive was it on?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaya Zyanya Tech: had it on a flash drive to play at work
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: anyone familiar with eqSets from Bast? getting an error when adding some EQ
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it load as slowly at work, or only on the home computer? I'd try different USB ports
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaya Zyanya Tech: Loads as slow, haven't used it at home till today
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: is there anyone that could please divert me to a three moons plugin i could download without  a hassle?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: basts moonbot
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: would you mind please to send me a link?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: https://github.com/endavis/bastmush/releases/tag/bastmush-r2096
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when someone says "so and so's plugin X", the link is "finger that so and so", btw...
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: is statmonitor (statmn) supposed to have a window?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: it has some interesting variables that are labeled window and whatnot, so i was just curious
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: all of his are build to have them... for new stuff 
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: thats what i figure, i just wanted to make sure i wasnt missing out on something amazing :)
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for anything he has which uses a window, the window itself is its own plugin
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you'd normally add just the window plugin, and let it handle installing the working guts
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klauth Tech: looking at the mapper article Biker linked (thank you!) - anyone know if an alias in mushclient can send to execute for part, and world for another part? Want to run to nurse room, drink, and run to claire (using mapper commands still)
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Why would you need both? Just send to execute for the whole thing.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you cannot do 2 mapper gotos in the same alia
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alias*
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klauth Tech: hrm... ah
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klauth Tech: okay, thanks
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: if you set your alias to script, can use Execute() and Send() commands, but not sure that's really what you need here
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that wouldn't improve the situation
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klauth Tech: I'm assuming I can just use a run command for the few spaces to Claire... but was thinking about other areas of the world as well
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure you can
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klauth Tech: alright, thanks all - that worked
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the issue with doing multiple "mapper goto" statements is that MUSHclient sees all of the commands at once...so if you're in room 12345, and have an alias that does "mapper goto xxxxx ; do something ; mapper goto yyyyy", the mapper will figure out the path from 12345 to xxxxx, and will figure out the path from 12345 to yyyyy, and it'll execute <path to xxxxx> do stuff, <the path from 12345 to yyyyy even though we're now at room xxxxx>
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klauth Tech: no way to set a delay or have it check current room in between?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is a way, but it's not something that should be done
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You could do something like 'goto first stop', echo 'at first stop', trigger on that, then 'goto second stop'
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a programatic way as well
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you know room xxxxx and room yyyyy, so you don't need to use mapper goto to figure out how to get there at that point in the alias...if you need to see what directions mapper WOULD use, then mapper goto xxxxx and do "mapper where yyyyy"...that'll give you the dirs to put into your alias
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Ah right, so mapper goto first, do stuff, run whatever
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is what pretty much all cexits do
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Definitely cleaner than using a trigger.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: There is a nice way to handle this.  The "wait.lua" file is included in mushclient by default.  It includes functions to spin and wait until some event happens.  Look at the wait.regexp() function for nice ways to handle this type of thing.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You can "Execute(some mapper command)", wait.regexp() for some event, and then Execute(another mapper command)
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's still not actually a nice way to handle it, and is evil
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other options are the DoAfterSpecial function, still 100% not recommended to use
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: A newbie is saying they have a map coming up when they aren't even moving. Any ideas what would cause that?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: something typing "m"
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Is it possible they're just seeing a window on mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'm not sure, they've stopped responding now. Ah well, thanks anyway.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm, statistics / probability question
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: the odds are always in the houses' favor
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i want to distribute 9 identical objs into 3 buckets randomly
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: take it to the stats channel! :p
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there's a stats chan?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: trolled.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: if they are identical, why would it matter, put 3 in each.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: no :(
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I think like 4 4 1, not always 3 3 3 
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the distribution shuold be random, but should add up to 9
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn nods at Ontuct.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: any other limitations? 
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: can i do a math.random 1,10 2x and then use that as a 'marker' as to where they should be split up?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: Is when you're going to do this where the randomness is being applied?  Because that sounds like a really random thing to do.  You're so random!
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: can a bucket have 0 or must it always bbe greater than 1?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: where are the objs coming from?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it can be 0
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: eh?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: are they references to the same point of memory?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: x = math.random(1,3), if x == 1 put in bin 1, if x == 2 put in bin 2.... do 9 times 
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why don't you just choose 1-3 9x?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Does the randomness change depending on how much a bucket has?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Quadrapus.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Or totally random?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: math.random(1,3) == bad language, hiding stuff that people should know
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hiding stuff?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i just want to get the final numbers, i.e. A has 3, B has 4, C has 2
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: undoubtedly it's not considering what's left-over when your language's integer type is % 3
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: so have a = 0, b = 0, c = 0 at start and just increment them using the same logic
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: seems easier to do 2x math.random 10 rather than incrementally add it?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I have an integer type who's max-value is 12, and math.random = function(a,b) { (rand(0,12 effectively) % (b-a))+a); }
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: what's the ods that rand(0,10) will end up being 0 or 1 vs 2 or 3?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's the same, no?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: telnet is my excuse for my typos btw
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: not sure what you mean red
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: no, it has double the chance of being 0 or 1 than 2 or 3
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Redryn's idea works. x = math.random(0,10) y = math.random(0,(10-x)), z = 10-x-y
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: (b-a) isn't evenly dividable in to the maximum value of the integer type
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, nearly works. Do it my way, it works.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i do math.random(1,10) twice, then bucket A = result1-1, bucket B= result2-result1, bucket C = 10-result2
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I'm just insulting whatever language that is, not the language user's implementation
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: got it
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I bet it's java.  I've never tried that absolute crap.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Redryn: But if you did math.random(1,10) twice, you may get both 10s. *shrug*
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But do it the way I displayed, and it should work out just fine.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not sure if your way is fair arcid, because there's a higher chance that you get a smaller bucket on 2 or 3
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you get both 10s then bucket C = 0
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Easy to fix, Redryn.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Isn't that how randomness works
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Unless you plan to get average of x sets
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no, i just want a randome 1 set
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: ok, here's the answer then: {3,1,5}
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: does order matter? you can't get 0 1 8 with that can you? or is 0 1 8 the same as 8 0 1 for your needs?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: order matters
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: btw, how does the objects being identical to each other play in to this?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: both algorithms are fine, both are small enough, not sure it matters much
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: is this a spin on Monty Hall?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I really don't think you understand your professor's (or whoever's) question
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's not homework lol
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: redryns dog ate his homework
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: my dog died 5 years ago :(
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: and whoever wrote the question doesn't understand "identical" 
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus acks!
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Sorry to say this, but if it's been that long, you won't get good marks for that homework..
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: 9 objects can't be identical without an boss-einstein bridge (however you spell it) or without them being pointers to the same point in memory. 
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus groans loudly.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: for all practical purposes it doesn't matter
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Why mention it then
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: ok now we're getting something, it doesn't "matter", so it's a computer question?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: because if they were not identical i had to do it quad's way, but if they are then i can do it my first proposed way
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: they could be apples, identical fruit, but different objects
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: rather than a boss-einstein (oops:) condensate?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i just wanted to check if the math.random 1,10 2x way is not statistically fair
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: ok, so identically comparable instances of the same object class, got it
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: saying math.random 1,10 2x ... err, why not .... if you're looking for something simpler than for (x=0;x < 9; x++) containers[math.random(1,3)].push(objectsNotSorted.pop()), why not    3^9, pick a number between 1 and 3^9, and use a bit shift to figure it out?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: math.random 1,10 just doesn't make sense
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: because i don't understand what you just said
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: endStateOfStuff[ Math.random(0, 3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3) ]    where endStateOfStuff is an array of every possible output of your app
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: seems like a lot of memory
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and unnecessary
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Dice) Tech: Tricksy Bamboo rolls 1 die with 9 sides - total dice roll is 5.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Dice) Tech: Tricksy Bamboo rolls 1 die with 9 sides - total dice roll is 2.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Dice) Tech: Tricksy Bamboo rolls 1 die with 9 sides - total dice roll is 5.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: in muschclient, how can i change the size of the icons in my toolbars?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: There you go. 5, 2, 5. :p
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: math.random 1 10 basicall does this -> _ 1 _ 2 _ 3 _ 4 _ 5 _ 6 _ 7 _ 8 _ 9 _, insert two dividers into the 10 slots, and then you have your 3 buckets
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how does 5,2,5 act as a distribution of 9 items?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: It doesn't. I just rolled 3 dices
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: can you use your original method then randomize the order of the buckets?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but he's trying to solve 3 buckets for 9 items, so those numbers don't work
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: how is randomizing the order of the buckets less work or easier to understand than just doing nine Math.random(1,3) ("")
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: because if i want to scale this it's easier to insert 2 dividers than to loop the function a lot?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i realise the probability distribution is probably also different
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Then result1 = 'dice 1 9'; result2 = 'dice 1 result1'; result3 = |result1 - result2|
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you do math .random 1,3 you will tend to an average of 3
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ok i guess i got my answer
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: an answer or an answer you're happy with? :)
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: an answer i'm happy with :p
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: As long as you're happy :D
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I really hope you are actually not doing this as an assignment
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: How would you mark it, Tobe
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: Depends on if it gives the same answer or not as something more efficient, that is actually random
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I wrote a function, absolute random. *blink*
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I mean, if it's an assignment, he's screwed, because he's overcomplicating it
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: and that's resulting in the wrong answer
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm curious how math.random(1,3) would tend to an average of 3
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i mean the total bucket size
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: will tend to be equal
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh...well any real function would tend to that
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if i increased it to 1000, and you did math.random 1,3, all buckets tend to 333
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since that would be...average
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: it shouldn't
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: there's 19683 possible results for your question
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well i guess i don't quite want an average bucket, i want a random number but they must add up to the total
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i did math 1,10, could be 0, 9 too
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: err, actually, that's if the source objects weren't identical.  It's somewhat less
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: but only one of those possible results = 3,3,3
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: so using rand(1,3) 9 times shouldn't tend towards (3,3,3)
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should actually
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because we're talking about averaging
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: only over a lot of executions
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, that's what tend toward is
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: the more executions the better the 'average'
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: if you imagine a world where numbers go 1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3 etc, and 2 isn't the middle of 1,2,3, because they each wrap-over, then nothing "tends towards 2" except the number 2.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the function isn't going to be executed a single time...
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: and that's a much closer facsimile to the rand() function your computer will be running
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyway to get a distribution of 0,0,9 with the math.random(1,3) *9, the odds are like 0.00005, whereas with 2 dividers it's about 0.01
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so there's a distinct difference
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: ^ means to the power of
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: anyways, 0.00005 was right.   You're saying that's incorrect, and you're the one calling this conversation one about probability?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: somehow i decreased the size of the icons in my toobars on mush, anyone know how to change that?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Which OS are you on?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: windows
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: is that a windows thing?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't know what you mean by "decreased the size of your icons"... because I don't think there's a way to make them smaller...
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: "hmm, statistics / probability question" ~ Redwyn
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I actually meant to put that on quote
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/47345/number-of-ways-of-distributing-n-identical-objects-among-r-groups
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I'm gonna stop now
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: well they're certainly smaller, my laptop wierds out sometimes, i don't know what it clicked on
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it just the toolbar icons, or are other things on your laptop smaller?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: just the icons 
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: if you are on a windows platform and are having problems with the icons on your taskbar, in regedit find iconstreams and delete the entry, then restart. That will restore the icons to their default.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: the taskbar is fine, it's only in mush lol
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's talking about the toolbar at the top of MUSH
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not his taskbar
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I didn't even know they were scalable
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but from what I'm reading on MUSH, the 4 toolbars are specifically 26, 26, 26 and 21 pixels high
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this is the one with an open folder, a floppy disk, a printer, etc., right? not a button bar that you may have installed?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: correct, Biker.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then I'm at a loss...there's "zooms" in Windows, but those should impact more than just those toolbars
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: I suspect that they are buttons. The behave like they are.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: windows menu buttons, that is.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: there is an option for Reset toolbar locations under View, but nothing for size I can find
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: yeah, all i see is how to float them to a different position
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: it would be inconveient for the developer to have resizable menubar icons/buttons.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: is everything else just bigger so the buttons just appear smaller? :) :)
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: nah, my laptop clicked somehow on the toolbar and they shrank
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: it may be a windows thing, i'll keep looking
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: did you try the basic quit and resart?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're pretty tiny to begin with
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: hmm, you could simply restore the client to a previous version
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Literally nothing seems to lead to that issue. Every trick I know about zooming or changing sizes has failed...
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: I suggest a screenshot uploaded to imgur or something, I think we're doing too much guessing.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: windows store copies of your apps periodically, you can recall any of the extant copies at any time from the properties context menu.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: my buttons are nearly the same height as the arrow for mouse location.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Can you do a screenshot?
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: yeah but i'd have to setup an imgur account, don't have any of that
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: i'll just deal with it, thanks. I was hoping it was something simple
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: all you would have to do si restore the .mcl file, nothing else.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: well good luck Grim, bedtime here
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: thanks for the help
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: find the .mcl file, right-click, select properties, then select the 'previous versions' tab.
T3/r7/2017-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fudged by Anaristos Tech: there is no fear of corrupting your game settins since the .mcl file deals strictly with the world environment.
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: anyway to access music player via script XD....Don't wanna tab out each time I hit a song I dont want XD
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'd depend on the music player's programmability...or you could always create a playlist without songs that you don't want...
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaqal Tech: where can i find the latest version of S&D
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Just wondering how far you can go with IO
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: depends on your music player. some like vlc have acces through command line and mush /lua atleast can make commands happen
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: jaqal: finger nokfah
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaqal Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Well it is VLC:)
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Any reference for that?
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: http://mushclient.com/functions
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: For VLC interface?
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd have to go to VLC's site
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: https://wiki.videolan.org/VLC_command-line_help/
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which happened to be the first link in a good search for control vlc from command line...
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: google*
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: thanks, for ruining for my being a google hero :D
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shellfishie Tech: hi, does anyone use Fiendish's miniwindow order monitor?
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What monitor is that?
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, for maintaining order of windows...
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: How would one call stats from GMCP table in an alias?
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: IIRC mushs scope of GMCP is in plugins only i could be wrong though
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: The automatic updates are but nothing stops you from pulling the data manualy
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: I just don't quite understand how, even from the snippet XD
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: got a shiny new wd black 512gb ssd. does it make sense to just ghost everything on my existing drive to it, or am I going to have issues booting if I do that? 
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gladacus: check out http://abelinc.me/gmcp for how to access GMCP values from an alias
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, you'd set the alias to script, then have require "gmcphelper" <hit enter> Send ("gtell my current level is " .. tonumber(gmcp("char.status.level")))
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fetard: should be fine ghosting directly to it
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Any specifc mush version required? Because [string "Alias: "]:2: attempt to call global 'gmcp' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: why am I always getting a server timeout when I try to reach abelinc.me?  I am using firefox latest version and a phone connection that can do about 300kB/s connection now..
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gladacus: you need to have require "gmcphelper" first
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: soulstealer: dunno, it's hosted on AWS with web traffic (http and https) open to the world
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: well, I just did a traceroute timed out after 30th loop.. :(
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: your server is in usa?
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: anyone from europe having same trouble as me?
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just for fun, can you reach http://aardharmony.com?
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's in the same AWS region, but a different network range
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: Hi techies!  Question for you
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's the name of the Six Million Dollar Man?
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: the answer is: syntax
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: I'm using win, and the aard mush client.  But for some odd reasons my settings arent saving?  Every time I log in I have to shut off tags again, I have to shut off the auto mapper etc.  Any idea why?
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: Wine*
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, that's an easy one...
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aard MUSHclient requires tags for almost everything it does
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: nope.. can't reach aardharmony either..
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eyre Tech: Question, Anyone have any experience with the addxml alias function in MUSH? Specifically deleting aliases created in that manner?
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can turn off particular plugins, and then turn off the individual tags that those plugins used
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but turning off tags themselves would always be reverted
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: So basically, I just gotta log in and shut them off every time then heh
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: eyre: the addxml function doesn't really matter as far as deleting them
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eyre Tech: Magna: but they don't show up in the alias list, so I'm not sure how to access them.
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: them being on shouldn't matter one bit to you, as any tags which are showing are not being used
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: they are showing
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: {affon}333,1200
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then turn off THOSE tags, NOT "tags"
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so type "tags spellups off"
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: I do!
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: and everytime i log back on
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: they are back on
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eyre Tech: Six: that sounds like a plugin's default is requesting those.
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you don't have any spellup pulgin installed?
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: I dont have anything installed but the client
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the stock MUSHclient doesn't do the spellup tags
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: I'm using aards client.
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: downloaded it from aards site, and open it with wine
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: thats it
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's one new aard-side command, which may be your issue six...I'm gonna have to search for it in my logs though...
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: I mean its not hard to type tags off, automap off, whenever i log in.  Just didnt know if there was an actual fix or not
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eyre Tech: Are you doing tags spellups off or just tags off?
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: I've done both.
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eyre Tech: Other items require tags which will likely default to reversing the latter option.
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: Because its not just spellup tags
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: There will be a channel tag on etc
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: six: at the bottom of "tags" output, what is "GMCP session tags option"?
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you have turned off the comm log?
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eyre Tech: Because aard uses the channel tags to move them to a minwin communication log.
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: I dont have a gMCP sssion line
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: eyre: the aliases which are created using #alias {foo} {bar}, which uses addxml DO show up in the game -> configure -> aliases...where/how are you adding your aliases?
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: I have a Global tags option
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: that it?
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, this would be one line below that
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: the line above global tags is REPOP
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it might only show if you have it turned on, since it's a special thing
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eyre Tech: I followed the alias by the addxml command and typed on the command line: alias <short> <long>
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: eyre: if you did not put # before "alias", tehn you didn't add it with addxml, you added it to the aardwolf game server instead
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "alias" to see your server-side aliases
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eyre Tech: <insert Facepalm>
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eyre Tech: Danke senor.
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bitte
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Six: try typing "sendgmcp tags on", then type tags and see if you have a "session" line at the bottom
T3/r7/2017-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: is there a plugin that emulates dtrack, but with more than one skill?
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaya Zyanya Tech: does anyone know where I could get a plugin that identifies items and reports stats to a channel
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: aaaaaaarghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... i'm working on a quick and dirty D&D dev tool for a friend and the more i learn about javascript, the more i realize my code is a horrifying mess and i'm learning ways i could streamline it, but it's almost a minimum viable product and he wants it as soon as possible, so i'm torn on whether to just keep going with the crap i have or do a complete rewrite :p
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: i think i'll have to keep going, but i am gonna rewrite this afterwards just to assure myself i'm not the worst coder ever
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: that's what all coders tell themselves
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: if you don't do the rewrite before you go on you prbably never will
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: the form is pretty ugly so i do plan to pretty it up and make it easier on the eyes, so i might as well save the rewrite for when i polish that
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Heh, I've rewritten so much of my own code as I've progressed through learning new ways to do things.
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: how do i get the value of a world variable from within a plugin?
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: i keep getting concatenate nil errors
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caminus Tech: how do i make an action for variable
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caminus Tech: You lost your concentration while trying to cast xxx = spellup
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: can somebody please give me a direct link for a 3moons plugin.. im nothaving any luck with bastmush download..
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: How to make SnD use Trivia portals as part of runto?
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: "mapper portals"
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: set the portal up with an alias. use it so you're in the place the portal lands then read mapper help portal(s)
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: from my experience setting up portals is quite a heavy work. better save the aliases to external file also. 
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: So basicly its mapper portal hold 1157551275;enter at the 1st room of area.
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: remember lots of ;; so you don't miss the enter part
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: alternatively, you can start the command with a ';' to stop mushclient from parsing semicolons
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone use bastproxy? im finding very little documentation on its plugins, and I am just curious as to whats out there
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: DOes statmonitor have any specfic command line to access menu? I forgot command
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: statmn ?
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Oh yeah statmn thanks
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cackle: read http://abelinc.me/mapper and http://abelinc.me/hosch...the first is a general "here's how the mapper works" page by Fiendish...the second is a "here's how to think about doing your portals" walkthrough by Hosch
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's not online, but a good response for Caminus is that he should turn tags spellups on, and use a single {sfail} trigger to handle lost concentrations and such (or just install Bast's or Winkle's spellup plugins which already know all of that stuff)
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to remind yourself what the command is for Bast's stuff, type "plugins"
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it's counterintuitive, but to access a world variable from within a plugin, you actuallly use the GetPluginVariable() function with an empty pluginID: GetPluginVariable ("","foo")
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: how do you use the roomnote function of mapper?
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: roomnote -> mapper addnote       ?
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, "mapper addnote <what you want to say>"
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: if you use mushclient then you can also right click on the minimap square an go to edi tnote
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: what about adding notes to the area as oppsoed to a room?
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: that would be neat but idk
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just add them to the first room
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc, when you enter an area, the notes for all rooms in that area are listed anyway, so being attached to the area vs a room doesn't make a big difference
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: except that walking into the room triggers them
T3/r7/2017-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I have not noticed all notes being listed upon walking into an area but you can type 'mapper notes here'
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Time to wake up my Aardwolfian techies!
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: What is the problem?
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I am trying write an alias like this: alias {k (variable I type)} {backstab {recall variable I just typed}
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: From where I used to play, it was simply alias {k $1} {backstab %1} {Backstab}
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaya Zyanya Tech: mush?
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Nodski
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Do I need to create a place holder variable under variables, then carry that variable over to aliases somehow?
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Got it
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone use bastproxy?
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: (or any proxy that is public)
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: note even sure why you would
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: not*
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: is there a way to have a bag show a list without stacking like items?
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't think so.
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: okay thnaks
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, I take that back.
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: yeah keep it
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can use invdetails bag, but...
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: invdetails
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Invdetails shows raw color, so it may be hard to read.
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: sounds like arc should write us a script for that ;)
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impuritan fluffles Arcidayne's fur mercilessly.
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne smirks.
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you want to work my shifts for me or pay me what I'd pay in missing work, I'll write scripts for people all day long. :D
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: I'll make toast
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And on that note, I have to get back to work. People are paying me good money to keep their electric services on.
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: who needs electricity? Such a scam forced on us by big government
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Live like the Amish!
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne waves happily.
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: I love working by candlelight
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel starts to riot because that's the most logical next step.
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Azurite gets out the gloves and mirrors for the riot
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkyr Tech: is there a way to force a webpage to refresh every 16 seconds or so? it keeps timing out because of usage
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: that's not going to help the server load
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: lots of reload plugins for firefox and chrome atleast
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkyr Tech: yeah, but it lets me concentrate on other things while it comes up
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: what do you need it to refresh for? it would not really do much for you
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if the connection to the webpage is encrypted, the connection at the server is using and tying up resources 
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: google won't even tolerate long downloads from dial-up 
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a huge number of simultaneous encrypted and download connections ties up ram resources, so the server prefers reducing the number idlers so more new connections may be serviced 
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some large servers won't even accept connections from slow dial-up 
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: there's fast dial-up?
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stile snickers with Shindo about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: is there a way to pipe out the pup messages to another window without using a channcel?
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: channel
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: You should be able to gag it
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: Anyone familiar with the Geforce GTX 1050 TI?
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lined Tech: I have heard it is good nuff for vr
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: I wish I was familiar with it.
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lined Tech: it makes me drool, lol
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: My Radeon HD 6950 ain't cutting it anymore.
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: I see, how about gaming?
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lined Tech: caus ei only got me the 750
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Only need 970gt for Vr :P
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lined Tech: true
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lined Tech: just was saying good nuff for vr, lol
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: the mud doesnt require high end graphics :P
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lined Tech: eve does
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I've 450 gtx and it hasn't skipped a frame while mudding yet so it's good for me!!
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lined Tech: hehehehe
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lined's heart was melting, now it's breaking.
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: Is the card i mentioned good for gaming?
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lined Tech: heck yeah
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lined Tech: careful overclocking
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: the card you mentioned is priced at 1000$ or more now?
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel giggles.
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lined noggles about the room indecisively.
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lined Tech: 4-4.5 stars out 5
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lined Tech: 1050 ti??
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: OK, i will buy it. Yes that one.
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lined Tech: under 145?
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lined Tech: guessing 110-125?
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: MSI Geforce GTX 1050 TI (Gamers X edition) 2gb
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flatly Tech: Its actually 192 dollars once i convert to dollars.
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lined Tech: https://slickdeals.net/f/9755120-msi-geforce-gtx-1050-directx-12-gtx-1050-2gt-oc-2gb-video-card-100ar-newegg?src=catpagev2
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lined Tech: if it aint breaking bank   you can break bank
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: anyone know if the newer versions of mush still have the color bleed issue?
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what color bleed issue?
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: for instance if you use print() it will bleed to the next line
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: usually it will bleed to a tag and catch that
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, I didn't know there even was a print()...only used Note() or Tell()
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Abelinc would've known..
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: is there a difference?
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he probably would've
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the help for print() says that it's really meant for debugging
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gorsk nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: hm. the w10 watermark disapeared. did it accept and gave up?
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: if i was Gates, i would have used floating watermark to annoy people to pay for it
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a disappearing watermark may invalidate the watermark protection
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: the watermark protected my PC?
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and mayhaps permit a (successful) class-action suit against microsoft
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: i ate a lot of fish today so i feel like a true genius. ill sue ms to give my watermark back
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel throws back her head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: they also want punitive damages those that sue ms
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lazor Tech: anyone intrested, nifty quest feedback plugin... http://pastebin.com/P0EdCjff
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: what kinda feedback
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lazor Tech: GMCP? with time correct pronounciation of minute(s)/second(s) (singular/plural)
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lazor Tech: why not take a look...
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lazor Tech: eliminates the unecessary double figures that are featured in Bast's version
T3/r7/2017-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lazor Tech: and adds correct singular/plural for seconds/minutes
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: anyone able to provide me some hints on a plugin? I'm using bast's miniwins. The quest and setttings miniwins disappeared and i can't seem to get them back
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: they still show when i type plugins and they are being loaded
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: hm. my quest miniwin disapears often and then comes back for no reason
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Have you tried resetaard
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: lol, that sounds wrong.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: sounds dangerous
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: i see. mine is gone for 2 days now... restarted mush, then also reinstalled, then i deleted those 2 xml files and got them again from the internet
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: no bamboo... how much of a 'reset' is that? 
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: meaning how broad is it?
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: As much as it is a mystery to me! :D
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: aardreset not a command :)
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: ops resetaard worked.. now lets see 
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: well, i now lost all my configurations on the rest of the windows and those 2 still gone lol
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: would have been smart to make a backup
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Try moving your main "windows" around - maybe the miniwins are behind them
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: that was first thing i tried
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: Line   35: Attribute name 'data-pjax-transient' not followed by '=' (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: any idea?
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: need help faxing a puppy across state lines
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: pst
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: how much the job pay?
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: So, with s&d, you have these areas that you map them, but the mapper still can't find a route because mazes.  Any way to deal with that?
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: the only thing I can think of, if it's a random maze, would be something that uses 'exits' and room moves until you reach a room from which a valid route is possible
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: or knowing how to "solve" the maze
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: translocate around and hope you don't die
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: the maze in goblin fortress, for example
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: visual clues
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: that one is bearable
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: s&d cannot do anything you can't do yourself (and I don't even use s&d, but wth). it merely makes the tasks automatic. so no way around it (from s&d perspective). I think there are some maze solvers, but for specific mazes - I remember I came across some plugin regarding that, but I don't remember where.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I can do it myself, that's no problem :p
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: but how to make s&d handle it?
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: mapper cexits
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: also S&D does not navigate, it uses mapper for that.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: next time trachx is online, see his desc for a plugin that aids in solving mazes (if it's still linked from there)
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: I think it's mentioned somewhere, however, that automatically navigating mazes is against the rules.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: so, whenever I reload my script file, I get an error the first time my prompt trigger fires, saying that old_hp (the amount of hp I had the last time my prompt trigger fired) is a nil value.  But I explicitly declare it in the script file with the line old_hp = tonumber("1000")   How do I make the variable not nil when the script file is reloaded?
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: after the initial error message, the prompt trigger sets the variable properly and there's no further issue with it.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Never used it, but there's on pluginsave and a counterpart for when mush starts.....Set all your variables in there, so when the plugin is loaded, the variables are set to something other than nil
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Can't believe I forgot what it is though, rofl
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: IIRC There's also one for on world connect that will achieve similar results but forgot the actual name, lol
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: lua will automatically convert a string number to a number
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: so with scripts, why do I need to use the function thing in the trigger editor?  Can't I just call the same function by typing it into the script text editor and setting 'send to script' ?
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: e.g. instead of putting doSomething() in the 'script' box down below, it works just as well to write doSomething() in the text editor box and send it to script, right?
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: if you write all your scripts directly in the xml plugin, youll save yourself a lot of proble,s.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: @Impuritan I think so. I have done it both way
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: @Impuritan I think so. I have done it both way; although, I make my edits directly into an XML file but it should work the same wau in the MUSH editor.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: XML file?  I have a 'script file' but I don't think that's the same thing
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: You mean doing all the scripting in the xml file and just letting them run in whatever plugin?
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: and then making the plugin broadcast whatever data or results it's processing?
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: Yes or just have everything relevant in a single plugin for whatever you are doing
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: you can though get data from other plugins with GetPluginVariable function
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I gotta go but if you end up working with an XML file. Looking into creating an alias with LoadPlugin or ReloadPlugin. That way you don't have to go through the menus to reload your plugin to update the changes
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: good advice, thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: someone might want to suggest to Impuritan that his "nil" variable issue might be a scope issue...he initializes old_hp as a Lua variable, but if he calls it with GetVariable("old_hp"), that's an entirely different variable
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and Rauru's wrong, Lua does not automatically convert a string number to a number
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rather, Lua is very inconsistent wrt variable typing (because technically variables in Lua do not have a type)...peppering "tonumber" all over the place is a good thing...
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for example, \\\test_one = 1000...\\\Note(type(test_one))...\\\if test_one == tonumber("1000") then Note ("Yes, test_one is 1000") else Note ("No, test_one is not 1000") end vs \\\if tonumber(test_one) == tonumber("1000") then Note ("Yes, test_one is 1000") else Note ("No, test_one is not 1000") end
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, heh, actually for that example to be proper, it needed to have the first 1000 in double-quotes ;-)
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: your best bet is to create a function like GetNum, and make that return tonumber(GetVariable("blabla"))
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: old_hp
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and of course, if I weren't on ignore, I'd certainly suggest an easy way to move the "get HP" logic into GMCP rather than scraping a prompt :P
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: you still have to use tonumber with GMCP values...
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice at Ayon, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: always
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but they're consistently available and given, and you don't need to match a prompt to get them
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: prompt scrapes are "just wrong" this late in the game
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: its funny how snobish the phone market is. a 0.3 sec fingerprint unlock is "tad long but its ok. no dealbreaker". ridiculous
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, it is...
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I want access to my content the second my finger hits my scanner.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: and all phones look exactly the same but they say all sorts of things about them. 
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's not the outside that counts, but what's inside.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: what do the files in the folder plugins/state do?
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: plugin variables and stuff
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: makes it so that data persists across mush sessions
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: How does the plugin id get assigned?  Is it done automatically if I tell mush to build a plugin out of triggers etc.?
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Automatically assigned, but you can change it.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: it's a hex string of a certain length that you choose (but mush can do that for you)
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: MUSH chooses a long string that's very unlikely never going to be duplicated. But you can change it to Impuritans_cool_plugin, if you wanted.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Er, very unlikely to be duplicated, ever.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: it gets generated like this too Note (GetUniqueID ())
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Hmm.  Looking into scripting directly in plugin xml.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: So, I need to put the code to enable the gmcp() function into every plugin that uses gmcp info?
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Still new at this.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Each plugin is independent, so yes, you'll need to add the code to call GMCP values for eachone.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: that makes sense.  thanks.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I've been hunting here and there, but does anyone know a good lua guide, that might have bearing towards Aaardwolf?
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Scripts from current plugins.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Otherwise, visit a site like lua-users.org
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There's plenty of great tutorials out there, though.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: the best thing about Lua is that writing in it teaches you how to write in it :)
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Lua itself is a scripting language not geared towards anything specific.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: set yourself a project and write it in Lua, go online and research all the tutorial websites, then after your are done, re-write it.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The way I learned was picking apart scripts that have been written, and understanding why something is the way it is.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: That is how I learned mm2k6 lang heh
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I know it sounds cliche to say, but start with a simple "hello world" script, and build on that. Make it into a function that accepts an argument, or many arguments.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: there is a Lua online programming manual, it's a bit dry for a beginner but it does give some examples and if you keep reading it over and over it will sink in what is trying to say.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Going from print("hello world") to function hello_world(args) for _,v in ipairs(args) do print(v) end will be a big step for you.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: and yes, pick those scripts apart, that's a great way to learn.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: What version of lua is Aard running?
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: the current version is 5.1 for aard.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you're already familiar with a scripting language such as Ruby or Java or c#, find its equivalent in Lua and learn how to write it to compare.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: 5.3, actually, I think.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I think it's been updated, anyway.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: there is a newer version out but I haven't seen any mass migrations toward it.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: I had problems with my migration so I backed it out.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, wait, yeah, it's 5.1.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: some .dlls that I had would not re-compile under 5.2
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Shame, thought it was at least 5.2
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The DLLs in the mushclient folder I have are definitely 5.1
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: I mean, they were additions to the language I had.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Metria: Yeah, just confirmed it with print(_VERSION)
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: yes, 5.1 is very stable.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Finally, a use for the "Immediate" window :D
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: LHF's guide to Lua is... tedious, but useful.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I use the Immediate window a lot.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: the biggest problem with Lua is that it was someone's PhD project and so he has lost much interst in continued development.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: I find \\\ to be faster for testing one-liners
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm not sure he has. He's very active on Stackoverflow, and has updated the Lua version at least twice in the past couple years.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Morn.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's what I just used for the print.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: I am not saying he doesn't work on it, but his online documentation can be described as sketchy at best. For instance, his implementation of parsing expressions grammar (lpeg) which kicks ass compared to regexp is hardly documented so the learning curve is very steep.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: Gammon has an example of lpeg in his mush documentation.
T3/r7/2017-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=lua_lpeg
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: how do I show the start room of a given area?
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: how do I make mapper return the room id, that is
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: mapper thisroom
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I'm not actually in the area I want a starting room for :p  I want to get the starting room so I can mapper goto it :p
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: so you don't know a room name or anything there?
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: My memory for that sort of thing is terrible
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: then use mudside runto 
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: doesn't work if not at recall, and is not optimized for length
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: or heaven forbid... consult a map
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: xset mark
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: try xrt area
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: oh, thank you much.  that's perfect
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: i want to remove all the wait timers on my cexits. any way to do that without going to each room?
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreamcoat Tech: so I just did something after pressing alt. my main chat panel just shrunk and the font changed and I can't resize it anymore
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I am using winkle's spellup.. is there a way to order the spells being cast?
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dreamcoat: try typing "resetaard"
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: stupid wraithform is blocking my haste.. :(
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the spells are cast as they wear off...under normal circumstances there will be no benefit to changing the order
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: well, I come back from afk, both haste and wraith is gone.. and wraith is always casted before haste
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: disrupt wraith, cast haste...but as it's working naturally, it'll all be according to the timing of when they wear off
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I get to disrupt everytime I go afk it seems.. it's becoming bothersome.. :(
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: could switch to bast's spellup
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use the ":position" parameter to add haste
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but really, I recommend absolutely never ever using the afk flag
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because it's absolutely retarded to come back to the keys and then sit there for another minute while you spell up and regen
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: it lets you order spells?
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: well, if not afk, then I sleep to regen
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: abelinc.me/bastdocs...click + next to Bast's Plugins, and click on "bast_spellup"
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I can't reach your site..
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then go to Bast's, and click his link for the docs
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mine's just a url shortener like bit.ly
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: well, i wanted to see if you're offering your logs online but I could never reach..
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I auto-wake when 100%, so when I'm stepping away from the keys, I go to sleep in manor...in a tick or few when I'm at 100%, I wake up and my spellups resume, keeping me 100% spelled up and regenned ready to instantly resume playing when I get back :-)
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, my logs are on a totally different network than abelinc.me
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no relation between the two, different companies running them
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've gotta update my logs this weekend...been forever
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: abe: i think i am special needs... i downloaded autoprac, and i dont think its running... i set the pct to 80, spell to cancel and autoprac to on... what am i missing?
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, mod date on that was 2012...lemme see what the heck it does anymore ;-)
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: hehehe no worries, someone told me to dowload that because its awesome... i am just confused, lol
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've still got the auto-tick plugin enabled that puts the countdown in the bottom corner of the MUSH window, right?
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and if you just type "autoprac", it says "Autoprac_percent_lower is currently 80, autoprac_canc_spell is currently cancel, and autoprac_enable is currently (yes, true or I forget how it answers) ?
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: so, the help says that is what it should display, but it just displays the help, and no variable information
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, every tick it SHOULD send "stand, spellup 1 201 80 99, c cancel, spells 1 201 80 99, sleep"...although I think that fourth entry should be spellup and not spells, unless I was thinking to have it show a status every tick
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, on line 91, change the word false to ""
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you should be able to type "autoprac" and get the current settings output
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ohh, now I see why I made it send spells 1 201 xx 99...there's a trigger to turn itself off when it sees that there are no longer spells that qualify
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it sees "No spells found.", it sets autoprac_enable to no
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: yeah, there are lots of spells in 'spells 1 201 85 99' :)
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: just not running
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: what did google do right with the gmail?
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: i went there because the space
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: when no other offered it
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: yeah remember the april fools "joke"?
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: dont remember anything
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: i think it was the space and nothing else
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: huh i didnt realize umpalumpas had memory defects... they always remembered the words to the songs, so i figured they were ok
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: i seriously dont remember anything about 1st april from them
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: when they first PR'd gmail, it was on april 1st and everyone thought it was a joke because no one offered that much space for free
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: well im serious here. they offered 10gb space vs that measly 500mb.. i was there in 3 minutes. later they offered drive. and thats it. so many people went over
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: http://time.com/3766887/googles-greatest-april-fools-hoax-ever/
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah, they pretty much murdered hotmail just based on the quota they offered.
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: timing mattered. they saw that hdd was gonna be this cheap and offered it in advance
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: bloated software and bloated scripts and lack of reentrant functionality yet means that a huge number of active connections requires a huge amount of ram 
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: you try to do unbloated softare today
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the microsoft-inspired bloat-behemoth is indirectly affecting gmail
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: well. theres now enough ram and disks and flops to nurture your bloats
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: lazy programmers and lazy programming are likely unable to do reentrant compact concise nonbloated software (bios software may be somewhat of an exception)
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Umpalumpa falls down to his knees and worships the ssd gods
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Your mom is reentrant
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: When creating a script with notepad, in lua, I save it as a .xml and then go to script option, and upload it, and done?
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: if you have all the relevant parts to it that make it a plugin.. then sure
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Do I need the plugin, or can I save it a different way to avoid worrying about plugins? 
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: <-- Completely new to Lua/Notepad/uploading/etc
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: MushClient?
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: My old client let me do all my scripting through prompt, and to uploaded itself. Making it very easy, etc.
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Mushclient-Aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: google mushclient setting up script file
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: that is more of what you are looking for
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: or just hit shift+ctrl+6 then set up a new script file, then ctrl+h to access it, put them in there and they will be callable from aliases or trigers
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: hello, I am having some trouble with the Mushclient on Linux. Outputs in the main window seem not to be lined up properly.
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: maybe you are using a proportional font? have you changed your font recently?
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: let me try to set it to a non-proportional font - I haven't messed with anything lately
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: if the current font is not of fixed type, then there must be something else.
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: try courier new, miriam or fixedsys
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: now do I change the client font type?
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: that was the font I was referring to.
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: go to game|configure...|output
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: or simply type alt+5
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: it should show you what font and fontsize you are using now.
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: I changed it to fixedsys and that fixed it.
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: that's great, but fixedsys was the 3rd on the list, the other two you may find better fonts (easier to read) :)
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: personally I use miriam.
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: Yes, they just aren't on my linux distro natively.
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: yes, I think I did download miriam.
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: I will do so
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: http://www.fontpalace.com/font-download/Miriam/
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: my mushclient doesn't show miriam, but i have that one installed
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: (windows)
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: did you put it in the proper windows folder?
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: if you just did it you'll have to restart.
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: restart mush.
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: i installed the .tff and it said you already have this font
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: I just have Miriam Fixed Regular installed. Mush might not pick up true types.
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: I put the font file in the relevant windows folder and restarted mush and it's not showing up still
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: I thought you were running linux?
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: I am, but I tried installing it on the distro side and in the fonts directory under wine
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: how did you install it?
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: Under font settings i found 'hide fonts based on language settings', unchecked and now they are showing in mush.
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: excellent!
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: Hovik?
T3/r7/2017-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: apologies, I got side tracked - I installed the tiff file directly
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Anyone else notice mushclient's ram usage getting well over 1 gig after being open for a while?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: mine is at 2.6G ram usage atm
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: where do you check, task manager?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: I am only using 36.5 Mb
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: mine started at over 100 Mb
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: well, "only" is relative. 36.5 Mb is a lot of space.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: in just a few mins, after a restart, mine went from starting at just over 100Mb to 154 Mb and will keep climbing up to well over a Gb
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Does anyone know of a better heuristic for A* than manhattan?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: is there a plugin that emulates or expands on the dtrack command?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone seen Bast recently?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define "seen" and "recently"
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: How did you update Mush again, with command
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: Fiendish, how is the WW stuff different then his orginial files?  Mine are dated as last modifiyed in 2012.  They seem to work properly for me as is...
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: if you know... Lunk isn't online anymore
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't know anything about anything
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I only know that lunk periodically deletes and takes his scripts offline
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Fiendsnow?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: now that is a lie.  :p
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: But you dooooo know MUSH updating!
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Cera: start here https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: fiendish, you dont happen to know anything about bast's proxy, do you?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: fiendish Does the newest package you have correct the color bleed on print()?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Tol: you'll have to be more clear than that
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: KoopaTroopa: I only know about things I've written and haven't forgotten
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: hehehe fair enough, thought id ask anyways :)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I'm running r1783
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: There was way to update MUSH with command? In way it doesn't screw up your mapper db
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It amuses me when people ask script writers about other people's scripts, like we're supposed to know everything about them.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: package update check would show if you needed to update.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ok, so when you use print() in a plugin it will occasionally bleed to the next line of output, ie. if you print the room number of the current room off of the broadcast for rooms, the {rdesc} tag gets colored blue
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Tol: what version are you on? (checkversion)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: me?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: r1887 is the latest, Khannon.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Thanks Arci
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I did start that line with "Tol:"
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Khannon.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Just needed to know how to, you know that line you wrote
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I think Tol thought you were talking to the area, Tree of Life.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that would have been ToL
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: r1825, I am only looking to update if the color bleed is fixed though. Also, I see my name a lot.. so forgive me if I don't notice it in chat
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Tol: give me a minute and I'll look into it
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Thank you
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: My next question for you is on A* search algorithms :)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: 1825 is from Aard's site. Been updated numerous times since then, really. I don't recall print bleeding, ever, though.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Khannon: I'm phasing out the in-place updater anyway in favor of the installer. The live update command was a fun experiment, but ultimately painful to support.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The installer is actually much more sleek.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Also, why use print() in plugins when Note does the same thing anyway?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: habit?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: why use Note when print does the same thing?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'd never be able to get the live installer to work for Danj without compiling new DLLs and replacing llthreads and replacing socket with curl
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: So mush will install like other windows based programs?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: print = Note() :p
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because something something mumble ISP interference
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: sooo I updated, looks like nothing too broke
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nothing should theoretcially be broken, aside from scripts that relied on components they shouldn't.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ahem, like Winkle's S&D.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so aside from manhattain and linear conflict.. what would keep me admissiable but make A* find a goal faster?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: All important plugins loaded successfully
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Khannon.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I update infrequently because I am to lazy to re-write scripts I wrote when I was learning how to write them
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I think we all remember fondly the pain that was :)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Rewriting scripts is good for the brain, and good for you. You get to look at your past crap and say, "Why didn't I streamline it like this?" and you learn to write more efficient scripts.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: A* can't be universally applied to Aardwolf. The map is locally non-euclidean.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: You can do it on continents, but once you hit areas and portals the distance measure makes no sense.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the cheapest and easiest is to start with plain BFS. If you want to add continent A* afterward, go for it I guess.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: The A* is not for aard fiendish, its for a 26 puzzle I am doing for my AI class
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Which AI teaches the class?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well there are faster search algorithms if you're allowed significant pre-computation
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: think of the 8 puzzle but 3 dimensions as in 3 8puzzles stacked on one another
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: We are to use A*
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Wouldn't that be 24? :P
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: arci the 9 puzzle is actually 9 slots
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah but can you use a more advanced A* is the question
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jump_point_search
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne would expect a 9 puzzle to have 9 slots...
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne comforts Tol.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: arci lookup what the 8 puzzle is, you most likely did it as a kid
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://gamedevelopment.tutsplus.com/tutorials/how-to-speed-up-a-pathfinding-with-the-jump-point-search-algorithm--gamedev-5818
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Fiendish I will look into it
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I have a little more time to optimize this, I will look into getting that up and running to see what the speed is. Currently I am at over 6 hours for 600+ random deviations from the goal
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you can preprocess your search space, you could introduce goal bounding. https://github.com/SteveRabin/JPSPlusWithGoalBounding
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I should get one of you smart guys to write a pathfinding script for my mapper :P
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: magna fiendish already did a pathfinding alg for a mapper
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually he didn't ;-)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I've actually done like 4 pathfinding algorithms for a mapper
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: kinda with that shapshot list had dates, would be neat to see
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Tol: Never heard of those puzzles called as 8 puzzle, etc.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: current package uses a kind of shitty one
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but it's funny so I leave it for now
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol, well off for now. Fiendish pls send me a tell with the print() info when you get a chance
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: with=wish
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: and shapshot = snapshot? :p
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: slapchop
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yeah, that too.  :p
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne comforts Siren Cera.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Cera: which list? 
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: She wants snapshot lists to have dates on them.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, AardwolfPackageChanges.txt?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: the place you told me to start with
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, did you stop using the pathfinding written by the other guy in the mapper?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yesh
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: probably
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: let's see if I can remember how it went...
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: original pathfinding probably by Nick...then I probably had to modify it for Aardwolf a bit...then maybe Spartacus gave me a new one to use...then I rewrote it to be more funny
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: then I wrote it from scratch to be not super garbage and hard to follow
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but that hasn't been deployed
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: spartacus, that was the one I was trying to remember
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the problem with that last version is that it's much faster
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: what kind of speedup?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, probably at least 100x
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no more disk reads
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose it could even be 1000x faster
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: my exe files has a ste of dec 27, 2014.  my mush version is over 2 years old.  ugh.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: hmh I can't get basts stamon trro announce CP's feed
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'll take 100 times faster but harder to follow anyday!
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: <--cannt type.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no, it's faster and easier to follow
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: epic fail
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Oh - why is that a problem :)?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I take comfort in hamstringing mapper performance
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: what file stores my mapper files?  the ones that show explored rooms as such?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: if I start over, I dont want to start over with mapper.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: cpchan                         : gt                   - the channel to put cp results on - Any idea why it doesn't display Bast's Statmonitor
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you use the installer you won't have to
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just install on top of your old folder
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Just put a governor on it, make it a a simple var like if canreadlua = true then gofast and default it to false
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hah
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: my current version predates the installer.  so I have to start over at least once.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Cera: nope
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: wait.. what?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: copy your mapper DB?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: even on a mac running mush with wine?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Cera: https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you tell the installer to install in your current spot, it'll be an "upgrade"
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish is using Wine
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i went there, its a list of versions with update notes.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I upgraded 3 times now still made backups, nothing broke just some plugins position are off in screen
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I'm blind, I see it at the very top
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: crap
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for that autoupdater that he's dropping you would need to do it once...for the installer, you don't
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Cera: my mistake. I'll give you a direct link
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Give me a second
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: um, okay
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Cera: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/releases/download/r1887/Aardwolf_MUSHclient_r1887.exe
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, grabed it
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't know how to make the download page VI friendly. Github doesn't give you a way to link to just the most current release if you have many releases.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: right now it relies on some stupid javascript
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: One option would be to make all installers always have the same name instead of having the version in the file name
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I upgraded my desktop a few months back.. and everything transfered over jsut fine.  And I run mush off dropbox anyway... but I did get one major change.  If I try to highlight anything in the main window, mush crashes.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: whaaaat
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yep.  every time.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sounds like a Wine bug
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: prolly
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: the "force quit" window shows that wine stops responding.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i can still right click on a link in the commun log window, but for links in nots and such?  have to type it in.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, you know what...
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as a workaround, iirc someone had a note capture script
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I bet I could have AppVeyor update the download page at the same time as it's deploying the installer release
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's a hyperlink plugin
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: should be included
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Hyperlink_URL2.xml
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hey fiendish what changed today with the package? I got an email due to being subscribed to a thread or some such thing this morning
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Tol: I was testing AppVeyor to automatically make the installer
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it was just a test
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ah
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: alright, was trying to figure out what changed all morning, lol
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose the next one you see will probably be real
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: MUSH should update the Lua to 5.3, or whatever version it is now. :p
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, was gonna say, github says last commit november
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no no no no no
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: brb
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: LuaJIT isn't fully 5.3 compatible
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, there IS that.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also 5.3 is kinda pointless
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: LuaJIT needs to update to 5.3 too.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sure. I think that falls under the leading github issue for LuaJIT titled "Clone Mike Pall"
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ha.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, luajit.org, News, second entry, year and a half old: The LuaJIT project is looking for new maintainers.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the problem with Mike Pall being possibly the most genius engineer to have ever graced god's green earth, is that when he stopped wanting to work on LuaJIT nobody else can replace him
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The goto capability in Lua 5.2 is what I want. Had some ideas in the past (can't remember them now) that would have used goto. Meh.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can make state machines without goto
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can, yeah. But I'd rather a direct than indirect approach.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also, luajit supports goto
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Does it?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't know if _my_ build of it does
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but it says so on the website
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't know if it's in the 2.04 branch or only in 2.1
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's covered in http://luajit.org/extensions.html
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'll have to look into it, then.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: all my mini windows are tiny and in the wrong places
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: my maps and a lot of my triggers did not get moved over.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: were they suppsoed to?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you tell the installer to use the same folder you were using before?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: NO YOU'RE TINY AND IN THE WRONG PLACE
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: They should have, but did you install it to a different directory than your original MUSH?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Magna beat me to it. :p
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: didn't give me to the option of using dropbox, so no.  I'll move the fiolder to my machine, they try again.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: wat
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dropbox is just a folder on your machine
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: It gives you the option of choosing the folder to install to
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: well, it wasnt an option.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: c:users\YourUsername\dropbox
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i'll try again.  beb
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: brb
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I wonder how many people actually know that services like OneDrive, Drive from Google, and Dropbox are cloud based servers, but your laptop acts as the server where things are locally stored...
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Laptop, computer, whatever.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: this is better
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so what did you change?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what path did you use?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I copied my entrie folder into a new one (so I could go back if needed) then told the updated that folder.  that's what I'm rrunning.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in dropbox?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok, so what path did you use?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: whats the command for version checker?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: checkversion
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: says r1783.  i did something wrong
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: which explains why everything looks the exact same
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you keep MUSHclient on the dock?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Your shortcut may be pointing to the new location. Try opening it from inside the folder itself.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: no, i access it through finder
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: shouldnt the exe file have a new date?  this one still says 2014
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ehhhh
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: im hopeless.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: gonna try again.  *sigh*
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what path did you use?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: the users/danahill/dropbox...rest of path
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hm. from what, z:?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: C:?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: https://www.dropbox.com/s/77qk2p2pwkw5ry8/Screen%20Shot%202017-03-11%20at%209.10.28%20AM.png?dl=0
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i dont have a c drive.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but Wine definitely thinks you do
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok, quick questoin...
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what's the path to your previous install?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: https://www.dropbox.com/s/iayhuoeuo5cqhzh/Screen%20Shot%202017-03-11%20at%209.13.03%20AM.png?dl=0
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: those look the same to me
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: but I made a duplicate folder, renamed it 1887, then updated into that
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not the same, right
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you used "browse" and found the folder using the installer, right?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yes magna
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: take a peek inside the 1887 folder and make sure it doesn't have another MUSHclient folder nested inside of it
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think I remember there might be a glitch in the installer
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: it does...
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that folder has an exe dated nov 2016
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: let me try that one.. brb
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no no
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: delete it and install again.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it won't have your settings
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: um, ok..
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: make sure the install path doesn't drill down another layer
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: how do I do that? make sure I mean
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Can't she just copy that nested MUSH into the folder she wants to set up?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: after you select the folder and click OK, it'll show the path
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Arcidayne: only if you want to lose your settings
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can delete the last part of the path if you need to
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh yeah, didn't consider that.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ah, i understand that
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I should fix that in the installer. do a check for MUSHclient.exe or something and try to force the install path to fix itself
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: brb
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or maybe have them select the exe itself to derive the path?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if anyone has experience with NSIS, maybe help me out
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: select either .exe _or_ a folder?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: success!
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You cheer Siren Cera on and wish her good luck!
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i did have to remore the new folder... backspace it
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: now I got the cool looking mini map
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, the single or double lines instead of |s?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thank you Fiednish, I appricate the help.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: np
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I guess I should go abck to working on my homework.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: meh
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maybe just put a note on the "where to install" page of the installer to double-check the path?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, C:\Users\me\ownCloud\work\Desktop\Mike Stuff\aardwolfclientpackage-MUSHclient\MUSHclient\AardwolfMUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yup
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What version are we at for AardMUSH?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 1887 still
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we're almost into the 20th century :-)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: everyone wants to hear the legend of 1900
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yay, now the installer download page works without javascript
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You cheer The Jerk Fiendish on and wish him good luck!
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: I'm suddenly seeing {rdesc} and {/rdesc} around area descriptions in MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: has to do with tags
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: tags?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: see help tags
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Did you switch clients?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: no I didn't
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or had you installed and then removed a plugin which displays room descriptions in a miniwindow (I have one on my site)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: no, this is on a clean install of MUSHclient, haven't messed with anything like that
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this is clean, but what did you use before this one?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: nothing - I am on Ubuntu if that helps at all
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What were you using for the first 37 levels?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it has nothing to do with ubuntu
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Prior to you installing MUSH?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the last 3 years
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: Oh, I was on MUSH then too, but on a different computer.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Then you probably had a plugin that utilized rdesc.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: remember that tags are a server-side setting, so what you did 2 years ag oon a different computer impacts it
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: ah, I did not know that
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scripts that use tags hide them from view, so you wouldn't know that a script turns them on without opening up the guts of the script or using a different client without that script
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can just type "tags roomdescs off"
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: that fixed it
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is a new GMCP option which is fantastic, which lets us change the client setup so that global tags are only enabled on a per-connection basis
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that wouldn't have helped in this particular case, since still using the aardMUSH would've turned the global setting on
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it'll be super when going between, say, home and phone access
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: you can play this on your phone?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can play it on any device that can access internet and can create a connection à la telnet. :p
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anything that can telnet, which even includes non-smartphones
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: I suppose I meant more - sure you can play it, but can you play it easily :P
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: But I suppose there's no real issue there.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can, yes.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, the "easily" part varies by person and setup...
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Blowtorch is a program designed to allow triggers and whatnot to assist in gameplay.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll want to pare down the MUD output a whole lot, otherwise it's just a blur
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can also remote into a desktop or laptop and play that way.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: Fair point
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the downside of remoting into the desktop (via remote desktop/teamviewer stuff) is the shrinking of it makes it really tough IMO
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I just view my main screen, which I can easily see on my phone.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but then again, I've connected a flip phone with those tiny screens to the MUD in the past ;-)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Even better on my Kindle.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne grins evilly at you.  Hmmm.  Better keep your distance. 
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't use phablets ;-)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Heh, my phone isn't that large.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Maybe a 5" diagonal.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, 5" is a bit too big for me...I keep my phone in my shirt or back pants pocket, so stuck with the 4" size...wife has the bigger one
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: add a case to a phone and they can be obnoxious
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: my phone is about 5" diagonal but I find it not too cumbersome. The only time I find it annoying is getting in the car. I have to take it out of my pocket before sitting down...
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: i wonder if there is an option to turn the cover into another screen for phone
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oddly enough, I use my iphone 5s with no case, not even a stick-on screen protector
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh umpa?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: the cover. you flip it open and have dual screens.. 
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: because why not
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: oh that would be nice
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: i wouldnt mind if the external would be just an e-ink
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: still would be cool
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, I'm pretty sure for iphone the monitor connectors are just for mirroring...can any android phones "extend" with the USB or HDMI ports?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Apparently you can use your Android phone as a second monitor.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if I plan to MUD from the phone (I'm 95% laptop), I also use a bluetooth keyboard that's the same size that my iphone 4 was (so slightly smaller than my 5s)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if I don't have the keyboard with me, the client I use has keyboard transparency to not have the keyboard take up too much from the MUD output
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: I think i would die a million times from the phone even though I have a iphone 7
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: A keyboard the size of an iphone 4??
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I understand that,typing on a touchscreen is a pain in the arse, and sometimes my fingers will not trigger the screen, I need to switch hands.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Virtual keyboards are the way to go.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I miss the mechanical keys on a slider lol
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: virtual keyboards take up screen space, unless you mean one of those that uses a laser to draw a keyboard
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The latter, Magna.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I have also never tried a 'the latter' type virtual keyboard.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: laser keyboards are horrendous! 
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bamboo: I use one like this one: http://abelinc.me/keyboard
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: actually the more i think about the dual screens one with e-ink, the better the idea seems. instead cramming pics and comments on the same screen, a waaaay better option would be comments on black&white and picks big on main
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: -pics*
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: get cracking, umpa...first to market!
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: text on ink, pics on color. the way it should be
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: wanna invest?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: get it on kickstarter
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Take it to SharkTank.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's gotta exist before sharktank would touch it
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: they have to reformat all the current web pages for my screen first.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: i had this idea to have touch pad on the back of the phone. thought it was an awesome one but 2 days later i found the exact same thing. i think it was Sony's.. anyway, they dropped it
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I need a AT connector on my 5s, so I can hook up my old clicking type tactile keyboard from the late 802
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: 80s
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: holy crap: https://yotaphone.com/us-en/
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: phone with LCD front & e-ink back
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: interesting. I'd be even more interested in one without the lcd, eink only :)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: even better if no android, but that's just me :)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that wouldn't sell
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or that's called an ereader :P
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: exactly. an ereader with calling funct. :)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: regarding no-sell - I'm still waiting for that decent, not dual-sim, ubuntu phone. no such luck yet
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: maybe you need a jitterbug?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's the reason for the "not dual-sim" criteria?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Priced at $179.00 on Amazon for that YotaPhone2... Unlocked. Not bad at all.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, low end, upper end is $430.00
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: more useless electronics, shittier overall quality. ihmo :)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, and https://popslate.com/ (hmm, this one WAS on shark tank)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the e-ink in the form of the back of a phone case
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it looks like half of umpa's idea is already implemented, it's just the fold-open part that isn't there
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: wth have they done to VS2017? I'm downloading it for offline install - 21.5 GB and counting
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne rolls on the floor laughing at Nocens's antics!
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, our programmer just installed it on her desktop
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: no seriously, does in include archive.org?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: the programming division of ms have lost their marbles
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: our programmer has VB6, VS2005, 2008, 2010 and 2015 on her machine as well as the 2017 she just installed
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: vs6 maybe makes sense. but all the other versions?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we have a fair bit of legacy stuff still in production...our IVR boxes are running Windows 2000
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: still doesn't explain all those versions. not even for legacy systems - there are more versions of vs than versions of windows :)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: much of this stuff runs untouched for years, then we'll need to change something which was made by someone who hasn't worked her in years...it's not worth upgrading the project and needing to do full regression tests on the functions of the project, just to change the email address that a nightly report goes to
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I want a feature that sends me channel history since the last time I spoke on it
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heck, we had an issue with something we do for Staples, because they just the other week changed the input file they send us from .xls to .xlsx
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that would be useful.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Nocens: a simple install of VS2017 can be more than 40GB
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and a pain to remove!
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth tries to start up emacs and fails miserably.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I haven't heard yet what the improvements between 2015 and 2017 are 
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can boot into emacs and launch everything from inside it. you can't even boot into VS2017.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: that was valid also for 2015. actually, it went up to 80gb, if I'm not mistaken (with downloaded addons). But that was a 5-8gb install - this one is 3-4 times larger
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: are you installing C# stuff?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: I haven't installed anything yet. I merely downloaded the kit. that is the installer size
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "Hard disk space: 1GB to 40GB, depending on features installed"
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: So if you install only the README_FIRST file then it's just 1GB.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nocens laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh boy
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't know if this is _on_ _top_ of the 40GB req, but...
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Additional Requirements: .NET Framework 4.5 is required to install Visual Studio. Visual Studio requires .NET Framework 4.6.1, which will be installed during setup. Xamarin.Android requires a 64-bit edition of Windows and the 64-bit Java Development Kit (JDK). 
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that first bit kills me
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you need two different versions of .NET
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: I think they reuse some components (as in 4.6.1 is something on top of 4.5 - I'm not sure, programming is merely a hobby for many years now)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's quite normal to have many versions of .NET installed on computers
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Apparently Xamarin is 34GB
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: that really makes you wonder how Linux can get everything right, including development stuff, in less than 10 GB
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: linux doesn't include crap for development stuff...
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: ???
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Like... by default?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no IDE
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: there is - Xemacs
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Hmm, try installing a package? Most distributions will install several choices.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are no GNU/Linux IDEs that come anywhere close to how good visual studio is
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: with qdeveloper, anjuta and a couple of others you're still below 10gb. or somewhere around
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is still not even in the same universe...
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: that's right, Fiendish. but still, the difference doesn't justify the size
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, one neat thing with VS2017 is the "run to here" rather than needing to pepper breakpoints everywhere
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: They kinda do. The problem isn't that the difference doesn't justify the size. The problem is that you don't get fine grained control of the parts you care about.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Like say you don't want to ever use mfc controls in dialogs. It's a pretty obscure thing to do, and it bloats your exe size by several megabytes. MUSHclient for example is an MFC app and disables the feature in MSVC2015 builds
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but you can't not install it
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that code comes with. it's a thing you _could_ do
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, I'm reading an article on "best ides or code editors for linux"...half of the entries the guy called an IDE are just text editors...and one of the touted features of the "winning IDE hands down" (not an IDE) is that it uses ctrl-P to search?!? wtf :P
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: all other IDEs are pretty universally garbage
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Eclipse does well enough, but it's very slow and unstable
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sublime-text was his choice for the winning IDE...
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: wat
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but eclipse is at least an IDE
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's another option, I guess. some other IDEs aren't garbage, but they're hyper-language-specific
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, we have an old version of Pycharm, which seems to be nice
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and so again not comparable
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty happy with vscode development so far. Of course I really just want VS to run on linux
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but vscode is pretty good for what it is
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maybe...sql server does now :-)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: I really like VS studio, and the Forms approach. But SQL Server on linux seems completely useless - I'd take postgress over sql server any day.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: if you are corporate use then you won't pick postgres over ms sql just because postgres is free
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: no. I'd pick postgres because it is better
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: as a developer you can pick any db/language you like, it really does not matter as long as you're able to resolve all issues
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: but in corporate world - you pick tools not because they are cheap but because they are supported
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: yeah. I'm not talking about languages, I'm talking about it as a server. for example I needed certificate authentication. SQL server doesn't allow this (even though it supports it between servers)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I know a number of commercial products (multi-thousand-dollar) which still use stupidly-old versions of postgres on the back-end
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but there are a whole lot of refinements in MS SQL which make it an easy choice for many work uses...it's a very mature product, whereas postgre pre-9.x had a lot of shortcomings
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: other thing why you want to pick commercial db like ms sql or oracle is because it is easier to find people able to work/develop with those databases
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice at Deuter, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one reporting tool that a few of our clients use has postgres 8.3 as its backend...synchronizing databases in that version is a major pain in the hiney
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, fiendish holdings ltd is a real thing :-)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Isn't auto quaffing illegal
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in itself? no
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: so illegal
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in an aggro room afk, yes
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: So, you manually go to a room, initiate 'battle sequence' (attacks, skills, heals, etc) - that's legal?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just having a trig which quaffs when you hit N% health is fine so you don't have to think about it while out leveling
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scripting fights is illegal
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but spamming them is fine
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: autocasting autoquaffing. 
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: it all comes down to the one paragraph in help botting, if you walked away would you still be doing stuff like quaffing etc?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: But isn't quaffing pots in a fight, scripting?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I mean, quaffing when your health hits a certain %
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quaffing pots isn't illegal on its own
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: id say its best to avoid using something like that, but in and of itself it isnt illegal
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nods, I'd avoid it just because of the potential
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: it quickly becomes botting if you step away for any reason
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: autospelling was illegal once
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, it was umpa...I still run my not-auto spellup script in addition to my full-auto one for some extra stuff I put into it back when autospellups weren't allowed
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: not that hard to have a macro/alias that spams it a bunch that you can count on to not get you in trouble, unless you happen to be afk and you dropped a pepperoni on your macro key, I guess
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now I could put a slight bit of extra brains into my auto-quaff plugin so that it won't proc if you haven't typed in the last 45 seconds...that would take the walk away out of the equation ;-)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: id prefer those things would be built in mud and used as tactical stuff instead "smart" plugins
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think I did put that "idle" code into my tinyfugue autoquaff (that one is just a trig on the you are bleeding message)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: even playground is one of those things that is missing here
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: plugin maniacs ruin the mud
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno what you mean, but I used to run a pg96 talker ;-)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: this consider win - this i made public because i saw people using something like that constantly. auto-spellup became legal the same way. people were just using it. s&d also. better make those ingame so that mobile users have a fair run. 
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: and us kids in mud clients without mappers :/
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox begins looking quite bashful.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: hard to make a case for developing something so resource intensive client side for less than 10% of the playerbase
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think that Lasher would rather work on his game than keep copying code that I've already written. 
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: seems to make better sense :)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: server side*
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: runto was implemented server side because it wasn't known at the time that everyone would converge onto a single client that doesn't cost anything
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: fair game for all is the way of the future. fair for phones. ppl dont buy pcs anymore
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's a silly thing to say
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: straight up trolling
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: me?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: no. 
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: its the plain truth
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: look at 'clients' see how many mobile client users there are
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: im pretty sure millions of pcs are sold worldwide on a daily basis
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: you try to play with you phone, learn that youll always suck.. will you buy a pc?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you bought your phone for aardwolf I'm sorry for you
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: phone gaming and PC gaming are 2 completely different things
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: you aren't buying hardware for maximum mudding. let's be serious
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: aardwolf is perfect for phone-play. except that its unfair
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: It's never built to be phone game
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: aardwolf requires a keyboard and screen realestate
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: yet its perfect for phone
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: nah
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not perfect for phone-play
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: it is
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not by a million miles
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: no it is
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're high or have your head in the sand
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: no dedicated keyboard. restrictive screen resolution. not perfect
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: were getting into debate-chan territory
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You've had quite enough of this nonsense! Mustering the wittiest reply you can think of, you shout, "NO U!11 Kobus!!"
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: but i disagree
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think Umpalumpa is just trolling. I'm done paying attention to this.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: for 90% gameplay you dont need a kb. just big buttons
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: the kill command? just a big button that says "kill all the things"?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for 90% of gameplay, it is horrible for phones
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: any quay
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: forget the trolling. the phone people are left out there. its not trolling to point it out
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and nascar leaves the bicyclists out in the cold...
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just pointing that out
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: kobus - aoe'rs can have 1 big button.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Umpalumpa  Campaigns Done: [4]  Gquests Won: [0] 
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's trolling to make the claim that you made...
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: nope. you are wrong magna.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: im pointing to an issue. 
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you're not
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: yes i am
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok, gotta call it for sure.. definitely debate-able
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: well, most of the differences you name that are better for PC gaming are due to third-party client development. feel free to develop for the mobile platform and create a better experience
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you didn't point to an issue, you made a claim of usability
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that claim is 100% false
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: it is not reasonable to have server-side mapping. it is just too resource intensive.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the "server-side vs client-side" has NOTHING to do with phone vs pc
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: thanks to client side plugin advantages that today are only available for pc, the mobile users are pretty much screwed
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the server/client debate happened years before phones were capable of telnet
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Mobile phone aardwolf is benefit you can have, not supposed to be equal grounding to PC
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, you're confusing 2 unrelated issues
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: AND! the aardwolf is a perfect game for phone
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: 2 points. no trolling
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and there's the troll
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat Umpalumpa on his head.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: magna. be very clear now what my troll message was
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: repeat it
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: then you can write plugins that use the GMCP protocol to do mapping for mobile. be your own change. or pay someone to do the development for you.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: it
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardwolf is 100% NOT a perfect game for phone...there is not a shred of truth to that statement
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: the api is already there for someone to build on for whatever platform or toaster they want to aard on
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: um.. you are 100% wrong there. magna
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gobs of text scrolling off a 7 inch screen faster than any human can read is hardly a perfect scenario
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: its a PERFECT game for phones
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maokai Tech: playing from phone is easy
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: done. you're 100% troll.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: gag
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: you can gag most of it
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: how can I enable a trigger to fire once and once only?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maokai Tech: im on phone 90% of the time and I feel im doing pretty well
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: jilted: make it a one-shot trigger
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in MUSHclient, there's a checkbox for it
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: perfect
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: depends on the client jilted.. but yea what magna said
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll delete itself once it fires, so if it's something that you want "once only, but every now & then used", you'll want a mechanism to re-make it
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: when in combat with mobs, there are a few numbers that are important. the rest is gaggable. that solves the heavy scrolling problem
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Umpalumpa, you didn't win any Gquests on that phone yet - not even a solo Gquest - there is a timeout on Gquests - perhaps a phone is too slow
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: im not on a phone:)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and umpa's a highly-scripted player :P
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: thats true:P
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: imm blue-footed still probably
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: seems Umpalumpa is recommending something that Umpalumpa does not use (for gameplay)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: well, there ya go
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: i have a phone but not using it for mudding. too clunky
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: missing so many stuff that i need
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're geek enough to make plugins for blowtorch :P
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: not smart enough:)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You wave a large bright magenta sign reading ".999... equals 1 !!"
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: actually newet update did break a bit one of plugins hmm
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Fiendish's updates are known for breaking bots *shifty*
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my updates are known for breaking themselves
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne grins evilly.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Well there's error that I'm not sure how to really look into even, not really error the plugin stops function on random occassions
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nothing is random. if it stops working then there was an error message.
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What's the error, or what's the function, or what's the plugin?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: reload the plugin and watch for the error message to appear
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Maybe I should properly restart client I haven't done it since update
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I'll look into that after double and if still have issue (no error message) but I know function that is performed doesn't work properly or the way it used/should
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: iirc last update I have some issue too,
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: but then restart kind of fixed it
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well I'm glad you just didn't tell anyone about it
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: it broke my bot!
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it doesn't do anyone any good to get to the bottom of the problem and fix it
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: can't tell it to just anyone!
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: you should have sent a distress signal to master bot!!
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: it doesn't fail consistent though, it's weird
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you're probably wrong
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's probably very consistent
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you just don't know the necessary conditions
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but sometimes the circumstances of consistency are tough to know
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it could be as weird as what part of the network packet a particular MUD message comes in on
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I promise there's no code in there doing assert(math.random(1000) > 5)
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Looks like The Jerk Fiendish is lying again. Time to let everyone know!
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: of course you could say that that consistently fails when math.random(1000) returns less than 6 on that line
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Hmm gonna restart though your right I don't know correct condition when function fails
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the error message itself will tell you
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, the error message will only tell you one perspective, not necessarily what condition caused it...but it's a start
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: anyone familiar with mapper and how to add portals?
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: https://web.archive.org/web/20150819093750/http://www.holgerschurig.de/games/aardmapper.html
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: thats' a handy tutorial on it,
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: sweet. thank you!
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: so cool.  I just listend to a podcast (Recode Decode) and the were talking about internet archive and the way back machine
T3/r7/2017-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: it is an interesting utility
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Hmm reaching the point with bit too many variables in mush, I'm mostly using items id's I wonder is there way to find/filter specfic id :P
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Oh there is! Derp
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Khannon!!!  Failurette Noegel cheers him on.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klauth Tech: trying to make a disarm trigger, but running into problems with the get mud command. My trigger is firing, set to "get 2percent", but my item has two names... thoughts on how to get around this?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: id the item, check keywords
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klauth Tech: was hoping to make a trigger that fires regardless of the particular item I'm wielding ... is that a no go?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: set a variable for the item, and use that word
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: ^
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lazor Tech: for disarm I just use an alias as I change my weapons often, I have it set to gw for (get @weapon wield @weapoN) everytime I equip a new weapon I set the weapon in my variables table with script
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klauth Tech: okay, thanks
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lazor Tech: you can use this as an alias for wp * to set your weapon in your variables table ... http://pastebin.com/KPmHE6ia
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lazor Tech: if your using script in an alias be sure to select "script" in the drop down menu underneath the send box (default is world)
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klauth Tech: appreciate that
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: when using note command in mush, is the output shown to the room i'm in, or only to my screen?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Only your screen.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: so, you havent had a problem with retreat fail message not showing?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: mush here
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is this in a particular room, or do you have that issue consistently?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: not always. but often. different places
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there may be mobprogs/roomprogs which prevent it from being shown
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: ceontario was last
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Haven't had any issues with retreat not showing messages.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: now I remember why I dont touch these new fancy plugins: Plugin requires MUSHclient version 4,98 or above (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Usually, you can use them with lower versions. You just have to open up the plugin itself and change the version.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not always the case, though, but generally is the case.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: tried that.. staying at .81 has it's downfalls
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes, quite ridiculous to stay at 4.81. :)
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it works. do not mess with working thing :P
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Arguably not working, as you can't use the fancy new plugin :)
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It works inefficiently.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I would need to fix few old plugins and I rather stay without these new fancy blinking thingies :)
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You shouldn't need to fix anything.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Unless it was abusing a bug that had been fixed. :)
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: say that to everyone trying to use winklewinkles plugins :P
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I will
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's already been fixed.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: one version of it ;)
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winklewinkle works perfectly, download from nokfah or lunk
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Multiple versions, actually.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nokfah fixed the only "won't run on newer MUSH" part, and lunk fixed both that and the hunt at lower prac %s
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (now that lunk's is back online)
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: does lunk's version fix gquests not working?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I'm using 3.8 version
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GQs work perfectly
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: GQs never worked with Winkle's scripted until someone added it. :)
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sa in, they do everything they're supposed to in the released version, they capture the targets
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winkle is who added it...
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not in the public versions from his site, if I remember correctly. Had it as a private version that got around.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it was public to his clan
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was public to a whole lot more than his clan, but it's wrong to say that GQs don't work with the public version
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: ok, let me rephrase...in lunk's version, do gquests work in the exact fashion as CP's?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It always makes me laugh when someone expects a script to remain private. If you want it to remain private, keep it to yourself.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no. they're not supposed to.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Is there a comprehensive list anywhere of all these fixed/alternate/updated versions of plugins? 
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse is agreeing with that Arcidayne person again...
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: daagar no
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: why is that?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: daagar: there are only 2 plugins which fall into that category...winklewinkle's and opochtli's (go to hadar for that one)
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: board tech, note read 7223 for opochtli's sharptracker with opk exp fix
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: so. mush to android? never ever? impossible?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: impossible
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it uses microsoft foundation classes
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: MUSH to Windows Phone is more possible than to Android, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: windows phone also wouldn't happen...the main issue is that those devices are using incompatible processors...
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: mush as kinda "shield" service for android? never ever? impossible?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I didn't say it would happen. Just said it's more possible than Android, but don't count on it happening. :p
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shield?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: nvidia shield
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Umpalumpa: Just assume all your answers are going to be impossible.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: that one might not
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or at the very least, never ever.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: At least expecting it to never happen, it's a pleasure when it finally does.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use any of the cloud services to run mushclient...
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: there:) see, Arc:)
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: remoting to them from android/ios/etc.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Like with Final Fantasy 7 remake. I don't expect to happen, but now it's in the works, and I hope they finish it sometime in my lifetime. :D
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You've always been able to remote into sessions, like with teamviewer. :p
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: people are playing fps's on machines far far away 
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: 30ms latency is nothing for mud
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can also use bast's or duckbat's proxy programs to access MUSHclient running somewhere
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: more setup, but they would allow you to use a telnet/ssh app on the mobile to access the mush features without the screen real estate hamper
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: cool. too late for it today but sure seems a thing to investigate
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, you connect MUSHclient to the proxy (so if running locally, put MUD address as 127.0.0.1), and let it call up aard...then you also connect the mobile to the proxy (use port forwarding on your router to access from away), so both the mobile and MUSHclient are connected to the proxy, and the proxy is connected to Aard
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you set up a keyword in the proxy, that it will intercept and send to MUSHclient but not the MUD, and you set up a trigger on that in MUSHclient to execute the command after it
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: duckbat's also included mob database and its own mapper functionality
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: sounds quite complicated
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the proxies also would let you use GMCP stuff with clients that don't have GMCP built-in (like the old mccpclient did for mccp)
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: there is a new server for aardwolf. it could provid the service
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: im completely ignorant here though:)
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it could provide what service?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: hosting a bunch of running mush clients for people on phones
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as much as I contend that "aard is not a perfect game for phones", remote MUSHclient is even less perfect of a way to access it from phones
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I've had no problem in it. I wouldnt play if I didnt remote access my mushclient
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: nuanse, write a howto. ill pay 10 tps if its a good one
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not about "problems"...the amount of screen real estate that MUSHclient itself takes up is way more than phones provide, which means that you're either going to be scrolling to hell, or you're going to be squinting to see anything...
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I have no howto, I do it through teamviewer
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the howto is "run MUSHclient", "turn on remote desktop or install teamviewer", "run a remote access app on the phone to access remote desktop or teamviewer"...
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: phones have 1080 screens nowadays
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if there was simple proxy that did it in text, I would use telnet :P
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: my phone only has one screen
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are proxies to do it in text...just not simple :P
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: wait he has me ILed joke ruined SORRY FOLKS
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: my 10 tps is there. first one who writes the perfect guide gets them. 
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: good enough for aardwiki
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umpa: what you should do is track down dan block and pay him to finish what he started :-)
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Switch to TT++ like me. You can connect from anywhere!
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but as it stands, it appears tha tblowtorch is dead...the forums are broken, the paypal link is to a closed account...
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: dan block. a sax player
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well yeah, robbo, that's one of the reasons I'll never give up tinyfugue :)
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: i loved tt++. but was there a mappers?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: i meant tintin
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes umpa, there's mapper in tt++ (which is tintin)
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: that teamviewer thing looks the most interesting. ok. thanks.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Or you can write your own if you hate it!
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how have you not heard of teamviewer?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: i have a life!
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: obviously not :P
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers with you about your shared secret. 
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you got out more, you'd see people using teamviewer all the time ;-)
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: it says 1 billion devices has it. thats surely a lie
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Heh. Speaking of remoting in... At my job, we remote into one session to remote into another session in the Philippines...
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: lol, now use that system to remote into your physical box
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using a "jump station" is pretty normal for security
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Our phone systems have so much lag sometimes when we're talking to customers. We'll say something and spend 2-3 seconds waiting for a response, or we'll cut each other off because we think there is silence.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: We deal with electric and gas. And checking accounts. :p
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: First time I've ever used such a system.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmm. What's the specific level up message? Isn't it You are now level xx! or something?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not on the wiki. Sad.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lazor Tech: You raise a level! You are now level *.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Thanks, Lazor.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Is (.*?) the right capture for string, including space?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lazor Tech: as a regex I believe so
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: https://regex101.com/
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you dont need the ?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Why not
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: because * matches 0 or 1 occurrance of . which matches any character
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: What's the ? for, then
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: and ? matches 0 or 1 occurrences
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: its redundant in other words
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: sorry * matches 0 or more occurrences
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: 0 to infinite
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ? matches 0 or 1
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: ^You hold (.*) in your hand.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: *
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: That look okay?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: that is all you need
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Doesn't fire though
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lazor Tech: ^You hold (.*) in your hand.$
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: What's the $ for
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: did you remember to check the regex box? (mushclient)
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: $ matches the end of a line
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I see
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: let me guess, you are using mush and forgot to put reg exp tick into the trigger
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I am doing it directly into the file
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: in a <alias> definition?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: It is set to regexp, and it is enabled. One sec
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Using wine, and somehow my mush crashes when I try to open the 'File' menu, or trying to open the Plugin window directly
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: So I have to close/open mush to reload scripts
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: have you tried the hotkey ctrl+shift+p?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No. You can do it in an alias too.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: nm
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Yes, that was what I meant for the latter 
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea i got that, didnt read thoroughly enough
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Still not firing. Hmm
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: well the . at the end will match any character but that isnt a problem since it will also match a literal .
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: <trigger enabled="y" match="^You hold (.*) in your hand.$" regexp="y"><send>spouse test</send></trigger>
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hrm, looks fine to me :(
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That last . should be \. :p
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Ohh. It is not considered as plaintext period
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea but it wont make much difference, you also dont really need the ( or ) either since youre not capturing it
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Lemme try again
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: . will match any character including a dot
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It won't. Only thing I can think of is either it's not ending with no trailing spaces, or it's not starting on a new line.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: send_to="12"
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not in this case. send_to="10", I think, for World.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: If I do not have the <send> tag, do I need that Rauru?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ah that might be it, though 12 was script though.. should default to world if not specified shouldnt it?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Maybe it defaults to World, I forget.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea im not sure
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Say I have script="myScript" instead
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, defaults to world without any send sequence.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: that would call the function myScript
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: i think if you send to world it puts it in command history
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: i find that annoying
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: So check the "Omit from Command History" box
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: does it put in history if it is an alias?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Well, found the problem
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: The plugin is no longer used
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: So any change does not reflect
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Now I can
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Now I cannot add new plugins
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Because mush crashes
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What version of wine are you using?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: 1.6.2
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Latest stable wine is 2.0
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Installed mine through homebrew
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Says latest is 1.6.2. Hmm
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: winehq.org says 2.0, IDK what homebrew is
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Ouch, 1.6.2 was released January 2014. You might want to look at switching versions, at least as a test. You might be able to fix those crashes.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Removed old wine, installed latest version from wineHQ, no more crashes
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Woot, glad to hear it :)
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: Wine is so fickle
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: has anyone been able to get anything like desktop notifications out of wine?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: red or white?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: more of a white wine person myself, but scotch and beer are the preferred, if I'm honest...
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: the best I can come up with is run a server and have a plugin talk to that but I was hoping for a less clumsy solution
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: You mean notification from aard?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Like toast notifications?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: yeah, from mushclient (like quest, gquest, etc)
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I'm usually content with the 'sound' trigger
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It depends on your desktop environment.  Cinnamon, Enlightenment, KDE and GNOME all have builtin notification daemons that get triggered via dbus
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: I use a bare WM so that's not an option. Everything else I have uses libnotify
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: For libnotify something like this, maybe: notify-send 'Hello world!' 'This is an example notification.' --icon=dialog-information
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: can't run commands from wine afaik
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: it seems to be sandboxed very well- I can run windows commands through lua's os.execute but no linux commands
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Hmmmmmmm, one sec
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'm finding some google results saying something about using 'wineconsole' to launch things, or symlinking them into the windows drive folder
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Are dual booting?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Are you dual booting?
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: in wineconsole I can see /usr/bin/notify-send but I can't run it because it's not a windows program
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: and no, I'm not dual booting
T3/r7/2017-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: ok I think I've found a workaround: wrap notify-send in a shell script and run that instead
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: so i want peoples opinions, as it stands sharptracker has broken in a few ways, do you think it would be better for me to maintain/update it, or just make a bunch of smaller trackers that track all the same thing, but is not in a 9k line monster
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: by that i mean im fixing bugs as people report them and i have time to fix them
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: wouldn't it still be a 9k line monster but just in smaller pieces?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: no, it would be probably a 15k line monster, in smaller pieces :P but easier to manage, and customizable, basically im going to make 1 reporter, and a bunch of trackers, the trackers will just ping data so if someone wants it just for a plugin its not going to add any commands or anything, so they could build off that, or use my stuff (which is inefficent) or i can spend my time working on a script to get the hadar.ninja database updated so we can have a current version, along with some other neat things i have planned for mushclient scripts :)
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sometimes making a new thing is what I want to do. sometimes rewriting an old thing is what I want to do.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: scratch the itch that bothers you more
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: between hadar.ninja and the new tao website, and school, and work, i have no time, was actually going to see if someone wanted to help with the scripts for hadar.ninja
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: If I had even the slightest intelligence in the language you are working with, I would offer, but doubt I would.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Slightest bit*
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Slightest bit of*
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: F M L
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: new languages are easy to learn
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: how my friend?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: new aardwolf mushclient package has #sub and #gag 
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: May as well upgrade to zMUD
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: MAY AS WELL
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: new aardwolf mushclient package also enables gmcp-only channels
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: what does that actually do for you fiendish?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: make the server only send you channels once instead of twice, and gets rid of channel tags
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: woooow I just updated MUSH not liking this at all
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: whats not to like?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: it did something with prompt
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: then put it back?  its customiziable....
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I think it removed blank line between prompt and actions and all that, it's just kinda used to that stuff looks weird all packed up without space
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: what is this prompt fixer thing
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Right so it sets compact mode on when starting mush, no idea why it does that huh
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: On newest update how to you actually turn off channcel tags it's done by GMCP now?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You turn it off the same was as before, I imagine... echo chats off.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or tags channels off, since you no longer need them, I suppose.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: I asked this before, but how do you have a variable as a table's name?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: In this example....it'd be a Constant.Variable.Constant to index the value I want....
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Well, I know that much buit it doesn't work
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: {chan ch=tracker}[Tracker]: QUEST TIMER! - Channels tags are off
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Do you have newest MUSH update Arcidayne?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: There's also underlines evey clickable script
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: [1] The Arcane Oculist's Workshop (The Stuff of Shadows) (40407) - Entirely underlined
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Zoot Tech: that's interesting I had an old old version of mushclient with the clickable links that were underlined like that
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: How would one do variable names in a tables name? Lke Example.Variable = 1?....I know that doing it as is, would take it literaly
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: It's annoying as hell, and I have no idea how to turn them off, better why did update turn it on
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Update message didn't seem to promise break too many things, I'd personally just reroll previous version back, but I didn't make backup this time >_>
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Serializing a table creates a global variable, right?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: that change list though fiendish :P
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: tracker isn't a channel
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: tracker is a script
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the package does disable channel tags already
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Ok, but why does it display the way it does then? Is alias off? And the underlines?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it's a script that creates a fake channel!
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: time for the script to create a fake channel a different way, I guess :\
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: How does one do that
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: contact the author
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not my script
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: my solution is best: never update anything
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: what about the underlines?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I sent you a note
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in short, my answer is "what about the underlines?"
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: raded: checkversion?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: The underlines are not visible Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: They only show up my client, but not copy/paste
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if they're not visible then why are you complaining about them?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: You are currently using Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: r1825
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: [1] The Arcane Oculist's Workshop (The Stuff of Shadows) (40407)  < It's all underlined, because it's clickable, doesn't show in copy/paste
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: raded: 1825 isn't too bad
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I know, I'm just being dumb.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Well, I'll just retreat back to version before today
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no issues with Menda's tracker channel plugin here though.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I had no issue until todays update, nor I had underlines on clickables
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Khannon: I wrote to you in my note that if you have an alternative suggestion for how to visually indicate that text is clickable other than the defacto standard representation used for more than a decade, I'm open to ideas.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Yeah I get it, but is there way to turn it off if I don't want it to be underlined?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not at the moment
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but it might be possible
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Well, I'm don't know how to fix plugins from other people and I doubt any of them are gonna update it just for me, not a lot of people use updated MUSH versions
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think plugins will get updated
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: probably not if you don't tell them though
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Well I guess I can mention it, though the experience I've had talking with plugin makers they are lazy people! They don't like updating!
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I know they appreciate being thought of that way
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: hi y'all... how do i know if i installed the program right and it updated?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: checkversion
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: ok is r1887 the right version?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I mean, define "right"
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's not the newest one
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: bigger than my number tho
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: ragasnagagrowl... criminitly i cant do it right
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well what did you do?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: ithought i updated ... apparently it didnt work. so do i delete this one and redownload it?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: What did you do?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: i hit the download to open the zip file then i unzippedit.. 
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ahhhh
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: isthat not the rihtthing?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: forgive the ptypos i am having a dyslexic day
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well I can't answer whether you did the right thing or not. If you'd gotten the latest .zip it wouldn't say that. If you want the latest version, get the installer from https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's not a zip
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's an installer
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: the new Mush splash screen is Purdy
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "where's the zip" version  
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: note read 26963 for the exe... but i dont know where the zip is
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it didn't look like a question to me
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: so, ive written a plugin... im new at writing plugins...  whenever it loads, it works just fine, but if I close mushclient, it tells me that Aardwolf.mcl is not readable (access denied)-- even after reboots
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone have any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: file security issue? file set to read only?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: yay it wored, thankies Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: no file security issues... i can read/write it manually...  (of course then i have to restore it) but it is specifically related to the plugin i wrote... let me put it somewhere i can link it
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what is the plugin doing?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: its rather simple, it uses GMCP to check some variables, and auto-bypass zones based on level
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: damn it'a headache to go back older version ._>
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz44j6H6OJJtY1RpOUttNmsyQTA/view?usp=sharing
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and you think the file not readable error is because of your plugin?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: it only happens whenever i use my plugin (at least thats the only thing I can think of that has changed before i upgraded versions)
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I mean...all kinds of things changed if you upgraded?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: well, it was doing it pre-upgrade
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh ok good
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm off the hook then
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: looking at your plugin
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa licks The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: should I or shouldn't i get the upgrade
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i dont see why you shouldnt Killene
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: ok i will see if i can figure it out
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Khannon doesn't like it. I think mostly for aesthetic reasons? hard to say. I got a few rambling diatribes that were difficult to understand.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: ok now that im done with learning om turning off tech.i loveyas
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: If you have problems, tell me about them in a way that helps me do something about it
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you want users to give useful feedback?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what are the security risks with the installer
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa boggles at Xyliz.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel giggles.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: the same as unzipping on top of your old version
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: if you are talking about the windows warnings, its because it isnt signed
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: unzipping on to... kinky tech stuff :)
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you security risk that you're putting software on your computer that I wrote
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you choose whether to accept that risk
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: damn I downgraded to 1887, still got underlined clickables
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Khannon: now you can uncheck the underline button in settings
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 1898 forces it on 
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 1887 doesn't force it, but it doesn't turn it off for you
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: oh, where in settings
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Alt+5
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: not the same -- the installer is the concern, not the updates to the aardmushclient
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: oo nice
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: greatttt no underlines
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Xyliz: the installer is from https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage-installer
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: video tutorial of mapper/mapper ninja/s&d - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ5EhKI0Whk&t=687s
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's automatically generated in a temporary virtual machine with AppVeyor
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish enthusiastically high-fives Lunk!
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: oh well, I have to go throughly with all the plugins blah at this point I'll takes underlines until I have will to sort it out and renew paths
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Wait I can turn off underlines in newer version too
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Khannon throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Just the tracker script remains as issue
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I mean...yes...but they will turn back on when you restart mushclient I think
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: It's fine aslong I can turn them off
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if that's ok until I figure out an alternative then go for it
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: whose tracker script is it?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Mendaloths
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I think that's currently only thing that's off, everything else is too minor and underlines can be turned off :P
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well I hope mendaloth updates it
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: he or someone else, too many people use it :)
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Submit an issue, what's going on with it!  Whatever it is, it's Fiendish's fualt!
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well if someone takes it on and needs advice I'm around
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa cackles gleefully at [Outlaw] Mendaloth.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't break things on purpose. But something something omelettes.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: It just pops {chan ch=tracker} [Tracker]:
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: instead just [Tracker]:
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: it doesn't show it in communication log, but in main window only
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is it supposed to show in the communication log?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that should be easy to fix
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: use CallPlugin("b555825a4a5700c35fa80780","storeFromOutside","HELLOHellohellohelloHELLO")
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish groans loudly.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: don't use that
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You have the latest version:  https://github.com/mendaloth/a-few-random-aard-plugins/wiki/Fake-Tracker-Channel
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: To put things in the comm log use CallPlugin("b555825a4a5700c35fa80780","storeFromOutside","HELLO@RHello@Mhello@x215hello@x66HELLO")
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: The issue was the lack of     sequence="-5001"
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: is there way to check which tracker version I have?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: tracker help does it v 1.1
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Does it say... v 1.1
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Aardwolf Fake Tracker Channel v 1.1
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: And your right Underlines needs to be turned off every time MUSH client is restarted, but that's not big deal
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Will take a look at it, once I get a chance.  Hopefully easy fix...ideal fix would be lasher adding a tracker channel of course :)
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: pfft
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: well it works just as same, but adds {chan ch=tracker} to main window, not a big deal, better then rerolling things to one version back for me :P
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if the tag is just to get things into the log window, use the storeFromOutside function for putting things into the log window
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but menda already added a tracker channel
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: with magic
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: as I didn't make backup.... I trusted in Fiendish!
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if the tag has some other purpose and you get stuck lemme know
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: is there reason compact mode is turned on/off at start of much loadup when loging into aard?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because there's no other way to know if you have compact mode set
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: see my idea note 36941
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: dumb question, run the installer with mush NOt running?   :p
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: correct!
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I honestly don't know what will happen if you have it running
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for all I know it might work, but it's probably not worth trying
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: wanna find out?   j/k
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't even run Windows. For all I know it would work out fine for me but cause your monitor to burst into flames
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: got a weird mapper DB error
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nooooo
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: got a copy of the error?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: my maps are gone
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: no  :(
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there should be backups
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: look in the db_backups folder
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: happened when I opened the client, I'll do it again and get a copy
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hold on
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Wilson Phillips?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: take out the most recent backup and make its name Aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: some day somebody's gonna make you wanna turn around and say goodbyeee
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oasis?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: is Fiendish gonna pretend like he didn't own the Wilson Phillips tape?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah I recognize the name but that's it
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded goes, "SUUUUUUUURE...."
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I don't suppose there's anything I can do to fix the tracker issue in main window? :P
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: fix the plugin. it's probably a one line change
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: this channel isn't being sent to the cummunication log
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: y'all are killing me
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qcm330s9zbq6lyu/Screen%20Shot%202017-03-13%20at%201.54.59%20PM.png?dl=0
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ooh you're using Wine, eh? what version of wine?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: abd my status bars (the hp.mana.moves/tnl/enemy % not showing
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so I believe that program error is a Wine problem
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: the larger mapper miniwindow is blank
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: maybe.  going back to 1883 or 1887, whatever I had before
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps the Installer got drunk on the Wine  (y,n :)
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sorry it's not working out. if you feel like trying again at some point, please describe for me individual details that aren't right
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they're probably fixable
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: went back, and everythings fine now
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: now I need to try and uodate bast.. those are also about 2 years old....
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: and to anwser the question I have both 1.6.1 installed and 1.2.2 but nothing works unles I use the 1.2.2 one.  it's weird.  And I know there's like a version 9 out now, but Iget confused with all the stupid otions when I try to update wine.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which install method are you using? where did you get wine from?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: you've got to be kidding.  I got it so long ago who knows?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I double click the exe and it works.  or used to, now I have to right click it and go to "open with" and chose the other wine file
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok ok fair
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what version of mac os do you have?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: most recent
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 10....something?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thay are all 10 somthing...
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ^_^
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: 10.12.3  sierra
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: whoa, went past 1.9 and they are now at 2.0 (witha beta of 2.3)  hmmm
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: see?  what the hell, which do I pick?  https://www.dropbox.com/s/vjve2q7byuj6rja/Screen%20Shot%202017-03-13%20at%202.11.02%20PM.png?dl=0
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ooh. I think there's actually an official mac install now? that wasn't true before. maybe try https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/macosx/i686/winehq-staging-2.3.pkg
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: -
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: ops
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh!  that was the file.. cool.  I'll run it.  better get out of wine first.. i'll be back (I hope)
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if it were me, I'd probably use homebrew to install it
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but see if that works
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: the stable version, ie not the beta's
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm using 2.3 from wine-staging on my linux machine
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I have to cook some eggs for my wife. I'll be back in a few minutes.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: sunny side up?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: So I removed alias tracker "echo {chan ch=tracker}"[Tracker]: - it doesn't send it to comm log anymore, but I'll trade it for not having {chan ch=tracker} in main window, it's all about trading today inperfect day
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but the comm log is the whole point
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: otherwise just set your triggers that use the tracker channel to echo
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: off the top of their head, does anyone know if there's a mush function to check if the mush window has focus?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I don't know.  I know there is a way to make the taskbar flash though!
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: i just tried to update mush automatically it ran for like 10 min using 90-95% of my cpu then hanged, any ideas what happened, sort of looked like the download never completed
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: nod, that's useless with wine though
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: back
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: I've got notifications working, just want to suppress them when mush is focused
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Morn: I think so yes
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Raded: yes
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded enthusiastically high-fives The Jerk Fiendish!
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: is 4.99 the latest version of mush?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 5.05 is
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: free.99
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: it came up on the splash screen to update
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: so yes
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: wait wait
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: one channel at a time
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: echo {chan ch=tracker} - this simply sends tracker feed to commlog? So it successfully sends it to Comm Log, but why does it leave '{chan ch=tracker}' to be displayed in main window? "{chan ch=tracker}[Tracker]: [Repop] emerald"
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Kinjin: you downloaded this? https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Khannon: because now nothing is hiding it anymore because I don't use channel tags anymore
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: nope, just tried to upload when prompted
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah. so sounds like you used the experimental live installer then. I'm ditching that. Too many headaches
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: use the url I just linked instead
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Ok I guess there no simple workaround unless plugin owner does it :P
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: ok, just downloaded it
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Khannon: _someone_ has to do it. doesn't necessarily have to be mendaloth
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: You just have to hide it again...how rewrite something I'm not capable..
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "just"
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm looking at it now.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: it worked, i think
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I'm back
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: and I'm still running mush using wine 1.2.2
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: Im Mique nice to meet you back
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: still 1.2.2 huh
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: what you sent me I thought was wine 2.3, but instaed something called wine stagging.  and it said to just double click the exe, but that did nothing.  so I went back to opening it using 1.2.2
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: wine-staging is just what they call the newest versions of wine
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I use wine staging
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, well it does the exact same thing as when I try to open much telepathicly,
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: :(
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: mush*
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah that part I can't explain
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: right now i'm running MUSH r1887 using a wise version that works, so I'm happy.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: whatever works
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: wine*
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm honestly surprised that 1.2.2 works in Sierra
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's so old
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I can't find the file that goes with it, but it's an option in "open with" in the right click menu, so I'm good.  Only app I can find ia the 1.6 one which doesnt work.  Oh, and now the stagging one.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's not in your Applications folder?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: but I'll just leave everything alone.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: not that I can see.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I know just enough about computers to get myself in real trouble.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you could use spotlight to find it
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: I made some changes to my statmon, comm log and group. Will those be overwritten if i update mush?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: answer: it did =p
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: Maybe
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: Some of my plugins use the Hyperlink function. Before updating, those lines were never underlined. Now they are, how can I remove the underline?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: Is that a new change in mushclient or hyperlink_url2 plugin?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: thre's an optional 7th argument to the hyperlink function 
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: set it true
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm doing that in the mapper now
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "Lua has a 7th optional argument: NoUnderline. If true, the hyperlink is not underlined. It defaults to false."
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ( https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=Hyperlink )
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hyperlink_url2 will automatically convert urls in main output to hyperlinks, but it's not responsible for underlining other stuff
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: color me curious what "try to open mush telepathically" means
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: means it doesn't work
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: made sense to me
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I thought it was pretty clever
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ic, so "it does the same as when I pretend to do something" of sorts
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: about as good as telepethaclly trying to power on a monitor that has had iron filings poured down the back!
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lunk throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: I don't have big fat square monitor anymore though
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: I have 24" HDMI touchscreen pentium i5 quad beast
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: built into monitor
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: apple yet windows style
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lunk snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: it's rocking 8GB DDR4 RAM, GTX 970, win 10 pro, 3 * USB4 ports etc
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Weak.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: which one pluguin shows this message: CSpouse) Mohan pup #81 : +4trains Time Since Last Pup(1min 43sec)
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sharptracjer
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: thanks a lot
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: 5 tp please. Info is not cheap!
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: built into 24" flatscreen & touchscreen monitor? weak??
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: ok, gimme 5 mins
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: HDMI to add?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes, Lunk.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: khannon 1899 has "mapper underlines" toggle
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: erm
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: works for Aardwolf! LOL
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Heh.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Aardwolf is actually one of the most power intensive things I do on my laptop
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: 32 inch monitor, 50 inch TV as monitor. Dual screen, 32 GB. lol
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe Wine doesn't know how to coalesce timers or something, but having MUSHclient open tears through my battery life
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Just kidding.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: how can I change channel from sharptracker?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: can't find the help file :(
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: alright I think I've broken enough systems for one day. I feel like Dade Murphy right now.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: Hack the planet!!!
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lunk claps at The Jerk Fiendish's performance.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they're gonna sue me an take away my computer for crashing everyone's mushclients
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: just make sure your BLT drive doesn't go AWOL
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: reading of hackers manifesto by the man himself - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tEnnvZbYek
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if aardwolf on aardmushclient is that cpu intensive, what are the minimum hardware requirements to run the Lua behometh
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: it's benchmark top performance for WoW outside of raids
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: OMG latest Mushclient has a different splash screen that is soo bright!
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: someone knows the command to see the help from sharptracker?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: st_help
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: thank you very much Nasus
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: NP
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: how do I merge update with old
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for MUSHclient, 2 options: (1) use the installer and point it to your old directory, it'll handle doing that...2) go to www.aardwolf.com, click the screenshot, click download client, read the page that that takes you to, it has instructions telling you how to merge different parts into the new one
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Is there a command to tell you which release of the aardwolf mush client you have? (Not just the mushclient version number, I mean)
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: if not that then what are you refering to by "release"?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: you mnean checkversion
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: you mean checkversion?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's exactly what I was looking for, thank you.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: cool
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: so what happens to old alias's and stuff when you insert update 
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: (*I anwsered a tech question!!*)
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: kept
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Birdbrain Metria enthusiastically high-fives Siren Cera!
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: i can
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: i can't find them hmmm 
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: as long as when it asked where to install you tell it exactly where your current mush folder is.. install it into the exact same location and it'll keep everything.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: looks like i screwed up 
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: so do it again, took me a couple tries.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you installed into a different directory, you can just (after closing mushclient) move the database and config files over
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: i have new but old stuff gone
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: killene: open up your MUSHclient folder...is there another MUSHclient folder inside that one?
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a funkiness with the installer that it sometimes tries to install into a subfolder rather than the existing MUSHclient folder
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if that happened, delete the subfolder, run the installer again...
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: all my mush versions install into a mushclient top folder
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but after you select the MUSHclient folder and hit OK, when you're at the installer screen with the browse button, look at the file path...make sure there's not an extra level...if there is, just delete the last part of the path
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ahhh, so much easier to call gmcp now instead of having to do CallPlugin ourselves.
T3/r7/2017-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Zeus
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: How do I temporarily turn off parsing for commands in mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think I fixed the installer funkiness btw
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Nemura: you want to disable aliases?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in menus Game->Configure->Aliases then there's a checkbox 
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: What u do now Fiendish :P
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: 1889 doesn't even let me to log on lol
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: tries to boot up update but then I can't do anything, it gets stuck some sort
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Mapper Notes displaying double again in newest update no idea why
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Attempting to copy single word for example still copies entire line instead - 1899
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: In comm Log*
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: having problems getting my old colors with new update
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I've let him know of at least one issue.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: I wish I had never updated
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If colors is your only problem, he'll fix it soon enough.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Likely just some bit of code that was left out on accident.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What "old colors" are you talking about, though?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: so the colors is not my problem???
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: in the communication log is all a very dark blue and very hard to read
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't think so. For instance, I use Mendaloth's tracker, but trying to do [Tracker], it doesn't translate properly in comm.log, and doesn't even copy colors properly.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: thank you!  it is really driving me crazy
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Killene runs over to Arcidayne and gives him a sweet HUGGLE!
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Your entire comm.log is dark blue?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: no just the chat part
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What color do you have it normally?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: i have been playing so much i can't remember anymore---but not dark blue--can't hardly see it 
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: colorset status will tell you.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: say -bcyan
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And say comes up dark blue?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: navy blue 
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: in communication log...in regular window comes up a bit brighter
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Say something, highlight the output, right-click, choose copy selected, then post on tech. I'm curious.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: '
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Any idea what's causing mapper notes showing twice sometimes when you enter room? It might be plugin related issue though didn't have it happening 1889
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: ouch
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And do the same with the say in main window, only have to do ctrl+d to copy colors.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: now i have the cloud again
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: brb i hop
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Khannon: I had it happening prior to 1899.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: back to cloudy window 
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: back to cloudy window 
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I also can't copy/paste comm log without copying entire line from where I'm trying to copy one word ie.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: this is so crazy
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: in cloudy window i get bright blue LOL
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: rebooting
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Well, I have 1870 without problems probably just rolling it back to it, though mendaloth updated tracker, underlining can be toggled now too I guess? it didn't save off first reboot after update, had to retoggle off still
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I had mappes notes doubling up once before, I don't remember how I got rid of it back then I have feeling it's plugin related or maybe not, not sure
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Hmm there's blank space oddly when I enter rooms, I think it's causing it to display twice
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: After prompt*
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: now i have a foggy screen
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: ok got rid of foggy screen
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sorry, had to go deal with a snow situation.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Snow is up to 2 feet right now.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: lucky
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: ok communication is ok but ouch
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: going to be 80 here today, Sunny California
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: I am so glad we are done with snow Uck
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I miss California.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But yeah, New York under a state of emergency. Our county was issued a travel ban.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: nah northeastern oregon
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I mister Universe :p
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I love snow, though.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But it's preventing me from going to work.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: white christmas and a bit more but after that i was so done
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: We had temps up in the 70s last week. Then it severely dropped. 8 degrees yesterday, snowstorm today.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: i was shoveling snow in -2 degrees and finally called into work
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Fun.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: i think i keep making it worse
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: How so?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: got crazy purple --i need to come back later when I can just set and play with it
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, hopefully Fiendish will have it fixed soon.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killene Tech: you mean that if i play with it it just might change again ???
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He probably will fix it.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Hmm, where can you reduce MUSH ticker from 2 to 1 again?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: oh my good lord now i have a blue haze LOL
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is that a strain of pot?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I really want a screenshot of that!
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: might need a photo
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Her comm.log is all kinds of funky since the update, Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if it's a problem with the screen
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: comm log is? 
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: what the heck is with this crazy upgrade
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: khannon: in the tick timer plugin, change the timer from 2 to 1
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's what she says. Her says are bcyan, but they're coming up in comm.log as navy blue.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: look, I don't have any problems. I wouldn't release the code if I did.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I spend months sitting and trying to use it to get all the rough edges out. But I'm just me, and I don't even have Windows.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so if I don't force it on you guys it'll never progress
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's the deal you sign up for
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne grins evilly at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's the problem plugins, too! :P
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: with that said
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what problem are you having? maybe I can help
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You've got my issue posted in note. I don't know why copy colors would be messed up.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because I promise I'm not sitting in my damp cave listening to the rats thinking of all the ways I can ruin your day
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah I don't see it happening here. did you try with a fresh install?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there aren't that many things in the possible chain I don't think
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it could be the copy plugin or the aardwolf_colors.lua file
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but that's really all I can think of
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'll try it on a fresh install, but it's odd, because copying [Tracker] doesn't produce the @b color, at all.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I see a b
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I assume you didn't copy it
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any chance the GMCP-channel-only can be made a toggle? If not someone should probably make a plugin skeleton for channel triggers...I think that the inability to trig channels outside a plugin might be a killer for some people
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: seriously, screw tags
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: tags are stupid
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Copied direct from comm.log: [14 Mar 16:13:21] Tech: I'll try it on a fresh install, but it's odd, because copying [Tracker]
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: copying from comm log eh?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I didn't try that
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Also, cannot copy just one word from comm.log, it copies entire line.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: [14 Mar 21:13:28] Arcidayne Tech: I'll try it on a fresh install, but it's odd, because copying [Tracker] doesn't 
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Khannon states it's the same behaviour for him.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nope. works for me
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I just noticed that. I wonder how long it's been like that. shouldn't be
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, it was from comm.log and from main screen, too, so both were affected.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's definitely a bug and I have no idea when it would have happened
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (the copy length)
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Wasn't happening prior to 1898, I can guarantee that.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't recall touching that code
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'll take a look at it
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'll check out a fresh install.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: might be a change from StylesToColoursOneLine to StylesToColours without calling Truncate
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because I did split this apart
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so I might have forgotten to use it
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so back on tags...
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm actually in the middle of writing a note about it
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but we can discuss it here too 
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, and Echo channels none option doesn't take care of everything, it seems. I got a Global Restore on both main and comm.log, and it showed on main as the message, then Global Restore: message. I go to customize, restore is the only one chosen, and cannot unselect it, either.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's probably because I don't handle the recent info split
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I assume it's one of the new info types
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or maybe not. restores are a channel?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I had no idea
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is that new?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rofl, info -h notes...you can see everyone's personal note subjects
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not that new, no
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you should def report that
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's hilarious though
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, ferra's got some pretty heated ones
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Wow...
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: LOL - yeah may want to post that RIGHT AWAY :)
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: seriously haha
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: i'll post it I guess
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: posted to imm
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh ok
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Auction bots, Personal notes... probably things that shouldn't be in there if not to you.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Oh I see he really did submit to imm: [14 Mar 16:24:34] INFO: New post #17323 in forum Bugs from Magna Subj: info -h notes
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Good thing we can't see who it is to!
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: luckily it's mostly auction bot
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne kept looking to see "Here is my bot for you!" notes.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wanted to put some personal-type notes into it, but didn't want the contents of the note to last longer than the channel history, so kept it to imm ;-)
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah as bugs go it's not terribly bad but honestly I would have posted publicly - so people know that their subject lines aren't private...
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: That is the other side....
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, damned if you do, damned if you don't...wrote the public warning to go along with the private bug report
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: YOu could help me by contining to post never gonna give you up in personal board
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne posts the lyrics as subject lines in notes to himself.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: OH SNAP, info notes -h rickrolled! :P
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, nice touch with the "Re:" :P
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: my mapper used to try and route around norecall and noportal rooms but it's not any longer. Anyone know why?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it know that those particular rooms are norecall/noportal?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You will no longer see new note info.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: yeah it's flagging them correctly;wake
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You wouldn't see personal notes unless you did info -h notes anyway, Turie.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's pretty neat that until January, there had been over 1M personal notes (by note num when it reset), btu gamestat 5 shows under 3M total notes on all boards since '97
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Most of the personal notes are from Market.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: I'm trying to work out how to make an automap using mudlet, but i'm confused by this gmcp stuff. There was a script I tried, but it doesn't seem to work with current mudlet
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Magna: I'm guessing Notes Posted doesn't include personal.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: You favorite beginners link to Mushclient/lua scripts? <3
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Your
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: if it helps, I was trying to use damp
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: i don't know if it's for an old version of mudlet, or mudlet 3, or what. it made a room with no exits, and that was it
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ronad: there's an automap for mudlet already
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: unless it's something other than damp, i know
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: it doesn't work
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but tbh, it's pretty silly to use mudlet on aard with how advanced the aard MUSHclient package is nowadays...
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: plus i don't need the gui stuff it adds
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need gui stuff, just the mudlet mapper
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: are you talking about a different script than damp or not?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have no idea what damp is...I knew of the MAG, which was the mudlet aardwolf gui, but mudlet core has a mapper
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: it does?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: You're talking about manual mapping, right?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no idea. surely it's automated by now
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: well, it is a mystery to me how to make it work with aard. and don't call me shirley
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: It seems to be that having a mapper note may be messing with bouncerecall / bounceportal. Anyone else noticed this?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: really? 
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Mapper notes tend to double up sometimes, too. :p
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, it definitely hadn't behaved like that...did you just upgrade in the last days?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: complex systems, man
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: I've tested it a few times and when there's a mapper note, it keeps trying to flag the room norecall. But on my next attempt it just does the same thing again. When I remove the mapper note I get out fine
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what room?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: 16118
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: area?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Qong
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: qong
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not going there
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: will have to find a substitute
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'll test it.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: got anything lower level?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Not sure. It might have to be something my mapper hasn't previously flagged
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it might, but you could just delete and remap the room
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: norecall or noportal or both?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Seemed to have worked for me.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Ok, #28273 in prospers
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: I purged, left and reentered. Added a mapper note "test"
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: When I try to "mapper goto" my manor, it will attempt to recall, then check for blindness before making room norecall. When I try again I see the same message
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: It's not cycling to my bounceportal or to another room
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I hope you used delete and not purge
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: But when I delete the mapper note it then flags as norecall, flags as noportal, then on the 3rd attempt will get me home through another room
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh purgeroom?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: nod purgeroom
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: right. I can't keep all these features straight
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you're not blind are you?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Nope
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: testing
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: let's do this together. come to aard hotel?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (assuming you can)
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: Is there a way to get a mushclient timer's elapsed time or time-until-fire?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: how so
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: google mushclient timer
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: there are several things you can do
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: I don't see it as an option with GetTimerInfo
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: seemingly that only returns the arguements given for hour, minute, second
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://mushclient.com/search.htm
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: oh i was looking at GetTimerOption
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: 13 is until it will fire agian
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: in GetTimerInfo
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: thanks.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: first problem ever solved by updating!
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Tipro closed mushclient to email me the mapper db, and when came back saw an update notification, so ran it and restarted and then the problem went away
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ran update and restarted implies it was the live updater. kinda sad to see that struggling baby get buried
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: About Copy/Paste on Comm Log I hope I'm not only one who can't copy/paste single word/phrase etc. it just copies entire line instead
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Fiendish realized it too.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I pointed it out to him earlier, said you had the same issue.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: known problem. apparenlty new. I have an idea about it
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: looking now
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I was right!
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I can't seem to really understand when it does double for mapper notes as you enter room, it's very random
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: look at me. I'm so clever. I wish I was more clever when making that change though
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I never get double notes
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: How many mapper notes do you have? :P
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 0
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's random, and I've had it happen to me a couple of times.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is it a new problem?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: It seems to just do blank line after prompt and the display mapper notes
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Has been happening for a few versions.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so why am I hearing about it now?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: didn't happen 1870, didn't use 1889 long enough, but most recent it started to happen
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, that's a good question. Probably because I forget about it until it happens again, then I say, "I'm going to note Fiendish about it after I finish what I'm doing." and I forget.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it always helps to know when a problem starts happening so I know where to look
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you say it didn't happen 1870?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: good to know
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Nope, not once in 1870
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: AT least for me
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Whatever version was before 1898, it was happening.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: running 1800's era software is usually a mistake
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok, so i've fixed the copy bug
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Entropy!  You've done away with it?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Just happened the double note
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: kindly copy/paste the entire surrounding text to me
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What room and what did you do to get there?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Oz > xrt oz
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: used Oz to get 2nd layer
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Does it happen if you don't use xrt Oz?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: or well I call it 2nd layer
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Not always
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hey khannon do you have mapper compact set?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Umm yes/no no idea how to set it
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: type 'mapper compact'
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: tell me what it says
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: It was on
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it was on or it says it's off?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: that's what I got when I typed it
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: COMPACT is OFF: Mapper output will display blank lines (default behaviour).
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so it was off
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: or off
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish is headbanging wildly again, care to join him?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Umm why I'm not seeing INFO feed on things that are turned on
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: any info?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: do you have noinfo set?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: noinfo was ON, receiving info
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You need to allow for info messages to go through main.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I have feeling the double notes have something to do with S&D
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I hope so!
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Might be wrong
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Either way it didn't happen with 1870
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, if it only happens using xrt, a good indication.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 1870 is unfortunately not super useful info, because some really important changes happened in mushclient 
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 5.03 fixed one weird obscure problem but caused another major one that I had to work around
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: So umm, how do I fix the INFO feed
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what's wrong with it?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: anyone have a problem with info pk deaths being gagged after update?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: gagged where, wire
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Doesn't display any of INFO feed I have turned on
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Oh they might be gagged
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: display where?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: oh ya no info at all
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: go pk someone and I'll see if I see it
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: neither the main window nor the channel capture window
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: all info
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Yep nor windows show info feeds
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I see info feeds when I turn it on
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: my info feed was completely turnned off, rt click comm log, click echo channels in main window, select stuff
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: ah cool, hopefully it works now
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Didn't come to think of all INFO was turned off in Comm Log :P it shows now
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish thanks KoopaTroopa heartily.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Seems thst S&D is causing the double mapper notes, test couple time, disabling it doesn't show double, even on enable it insant showed mapper notes to that room, hmm
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok well let me know if there's some other bug. I've committed the copy fix already, but will wait to push a new installer until tomorrow or next
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Think I know the issue for double notes, though I have no idea why it's happening now and not before
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: it's S&D related anyway
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: If you xrt to area and in Oz example, use quick navigation oz/wizard ontop of xrt, it seems not to realize you've gone through xset room already and later on shows as abort speedwalk, if I don't stack oz/wizard ontop xrt and wait a second on xset room before using quick navigation it doesn't display double notes
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Only thing I don't understand why it happens on this version and not with 1870
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Oh it also doesn't seem to save underlines for me still, I have to keep turning it off still
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am trying to uderstand the movement issue
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: khannon: did you try mapper underlines?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (I added that for you)
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Oh didn't I turned it on now
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: logging off. any other bugs let me know
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Mosquitoes are bugs. Should I let you know?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hearing a strange sound you turn to see Arcidayne being taped up to the wall by Failurette Noegel.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Kinky, baby.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel crosses her arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did that roomnote thing turn out to be real?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grannie Killene raises an eyebrow at Arcidayne's weird actions.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Apparently related to S&D, Magna.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, really? mapper not flagging norecall or noportal was S&D related?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, thought you were talking about the double roomnote, not the norecall/noportal issue.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, sorry...I had left a bit after tipro's issue with it not marking rooms when it failed to recall/portal
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i'll read tech -h later tonight and catch up on 'em all :-)
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Hmm. To whoever was asking, I wrote the 'damp' mudlet mapper. Hit me up if you need help with it (it is fairly basic though).
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's offline now, it was Ronad
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Thanks, will keep an eye out for him. I'm floored someone even tried it.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: my ascii map is refreshing everytime someone doors into the room, is that by design?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is damp a different mapper than is talked about on the front page of mudlet.org?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Not really. Mudlet provides an API for creating a mapper. I just used said API to map aardwolf.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rauru: do you know, is it just the mapper, or is a whole "look" performed? It could be a room characters miniwindow trying to get the list of people
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the minimap does refresh itself when it sees "opens" and "closes", though, for people opening and closing doors
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: A strange black doorway opens before you.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: that is triggering something
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, yaeh, thats' why
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: https://github.com/daagar/damp if you want to see, Magna. Don't laugh too hard at it - it isn't on par with what fiendish has done in any way.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as I said, when the minimap sees "opens", it asks for the map again
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: what trigger is that in
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: plugin*
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the ascii mapper
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: match="* opens*."
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's because it's trying to redraw the map with closed doors becoming opened if you see "Johnny opens the big wooden door to the west"
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: anyone got dc'ed now?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: yup
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: aye
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: a number of folks did, seemed like
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: other internet access was fine for me, just connection to aard that dropped
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: yep.. same
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: maybe problem in the path between
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: me too...
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: disconnected again :P
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: yeah and it seems like server
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: i could ping the server but not connect
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: anyone having some freaky unsexxxy connection issues? 
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: everyone...
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: probably all of us noegel
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: oh.... 
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: apparently it's your fault too since it started to happen during your double!!
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: looks like something in ntt's network between texas and miami from my side :P
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: ah you've figured out my evil plans! 
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: it's not network.. I could ping server just fine..
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: We finally get rid of Florida? Nice!
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: both times, I couldn't ping server :P
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: did try with IP?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: did you try...
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: tech lost hop between ae-14.r22.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net and ae-6.r21.miamfl02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: yup, was with IP, not FQDN
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: hop came back when my access was restored
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: just a few seconds later
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: somehow Mendaloth is responsible
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I called the operator of that hop and asked them to turn it off again.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: I found the network issue. do a traceroute to bad.horse, and you'll see what's wrong after around 17 hops
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: how can I make mapper run to nearest room that is not noportal?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Flag each room that is noportal as such.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Then do an alias like I have to mapper runto your manor, then it'll automatically do so.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Pfft, I can't run to your manor at all.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: https://web.archive.org/web/20150819093750/http://www.holgerschurig.de/games/aardmapper.html may help too, Impuritan
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: can anyone write me a script to make mush roll joints for me?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impuritan's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shelkin Tech: That's just the CIA inserting stuff into your tv to mess with you... 
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: i need some help with my inventory. its all jumbled up and its hard to see what it all means. please help
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's hard to determine what you mean.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Can you post a screenshot?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: how do i do that
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: his inventory is coming out with invdata tags
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Are you on Windows?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Hit the PrintScreen button on your keyboard, open up MS Paint, and paste.  It'll paste in your screenshot. Then save the picture someplace, and either upload it somewhere or email it to me
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hello! Guinness Tech: it's like he's typing invdata instead of inventory
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't email it to Metria. He'll flood your inbox with "SEND NUDES" before he realizes you're really male. *srun*
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Pace: What are you typing to access inventory?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: right, some trigger is going off with 'inv'
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: pace, type inventory and see what happens.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Also type 'alias' and see if you have anything listed there that might conflict
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: i got it saved
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: ok, type: inventory
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: -k 
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: did you get the same thing?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Someone gag Xyliz before he spouts off some nonsense that isn't helpful at all.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel rolls on the floor laughing at Arcidayne's antics!
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: i just now sent the image with email
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Great, now he's gonna spam you. Don't say I didn't warn you!
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: why would he spam me
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I won't, he's being "funny"
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: oh. heh
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: did you find the email?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I haven't received any, no.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: its a yahoo mail
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sorry, I got nothin'
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: retype your email address, ill try it again
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Ok yeah, got it
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: di you get it
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: good
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: http://imgur.com/8tjSNGi
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Would be helpful if 'echocommands' were on.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: is that where you want me to go? imgur?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Nah Pace, that's the pic you sent me. I just posted it there for anyone else who wants to help out.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: that fixed it [echocommands]
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I meant so we could see what you were typing or what the client was sending.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not... as a fix.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That really did fix it?!
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: don't complain
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: ...
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: all colors are back
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: My job is done. That'll be 5 tp please.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Birdbrain Metria THWAPS Arcidayne for being a moron.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: that makes sense
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: im using the mushclient. is that what yall are doing?
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Most folks are, type 'clients' for a breakdown
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: it was a configuration problem for the client...
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: ok...i tink
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: dont make fun of my arkasas accent
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: your mushclient wasn't set up properly.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Uh, echocommands is NOT a Mushclient configuration. It's a MUD configuration.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: same here
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: the tags you were seeing are used for capturing inventory data so normally you don't see them, they are stripped.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: goodnight shiny pink elephant
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I used to live in Conway, Arkansas.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: oh really!
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: I am aware of that, Arcidayne.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And Heber Springs.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: i havebeen to all of those places
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: yup
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: well thank you for the help im logging
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Night.
T3/r7/2017-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: is there a way to shrink the S&D mob list font?  And for that matter, resize the window?
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I built a Pi Zero Wireless last night. Fun! Anyone else?
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What the hell? This is new. Even though I have a MUDside alias for 'tracker', trying to use it from a plugin fails horribly...
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Also, multi-line triggers seem to be broken now or something.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Time to investigate!
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sounds like an alias tree thing.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I've no clue what you just said.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie frowns sadly, looks around and goes 'meh..'
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So turns out multi-line triggers are not working in the update.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: I logged into mush (third time today, 4th or 5th time since updating) and my inventory is showing the item id for all items in my inventory.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: did I accidentally toggle a setting?
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nope. Fiendish thought it was useful and automatically loaded inventory_serials. You can remove the plugin though.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, rather, can't say he thought it was useful. But he added as default.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Woo, lua books came in, still waiting for the main, but hopefully these will get me started!
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Lua Scripting Made Strupid Simple.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Love for Lua, Game Programming
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: The expensive college book is coming tomorrow with my plumbing/electricians guide
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: <---- Book lover (Physical, Pdf/ebooks can burn in hell)
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: lua has a book?
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: https://www.lua.org/pil/
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Lua has several books.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caminus Tech: on mushclient when i type where xxx , how would i use that output to set the room name as a variable
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I am >New< to coding in the traditional sense, I coded a lot through only command prompt in mm2k making some compldex ones
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: But, as far as "coding" persay, I am scrubby
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: you need a state machine, when you send where, turn it on, match input, when you're done, remove the trigger...
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I understand terms, and things, just placing them properly is my issue, and mating file + game, etc
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: i.e. turn it off
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caminus Tech: now to figure out how to do that , thanks for pointing me in the right direction
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: basically create an alias, SetVariable("whereing",1) CreateTrigger(...), CreateTimer -> DeleteTrigger...
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: or you can match all where likes, capture the name, lowercase it, and then see if the where xxx is in the string...
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caminus Tech: right on , thanks
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: If caminus didn't have me on ignore he would see this message and realise he can test triggers with simulated world input (ctrl+shift+F12)
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: true, or you can where yourself...
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: orr perhaps those that are quick to judge the sharper knives in the draw are blunt to a point that they are no long effective in artistic creation?
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: the winkle winkle matches where's likeso: ^(?<mob>.{30}) (?<room>.+)$
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: no longer*
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: so actually, because it says it's a word, followed by 30 spaces, and then any char, you could probably match them all the time, and just set a where_room variable
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: I realise strictly speaking it's against the rules but if anyone doesn't mind (I will be the one that receives harsh words from an IMM) ... give caminus a nudge and try make him see all I want to do is help people?
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: While nobody doubts your good intentions, Lunk, it's better just to drop it.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Seriously, you wouldn't be the only one receiving harsh words.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Anyone who releys a message for someone who is known to be ignored by the recipient will also get punished.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: it no longer matters, at some point he has removed me from his ignore list. Case closed.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, anyone who helps you bypass the rules is also liable to get a talkin to
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: which goes to show you, if someone ignores you, quit bugging them...kinda period...
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It still matters, because you need to understand you don't just hurt yourself, but anyone else who partakes in it. So don't ask anyone to bypass ignore for you again.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Do you want to become Lane? Because that's how you become Lane :P
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers with Asperger's Cheezburger about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: Like I said, case closed, any further issues post to Imm on personal. Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: whois lane? as in Lois?
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: A player us oldies knew way back :p
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Lane helped someone bypass ignore, got banned.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: TL;DR version.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: good enough for me.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: I think it was the other crap that eventually got her banned, but yeah the bypassing ignore didn't help
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, it was the final straw.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: I have one final statement on this matter before it gets asked to be taken to debate/gtell/tells : Whilst the Immortal team at Aardwolf will always have the final say, they are all good people. Period. They do take into account every single aspect of a rule-breaking and will serve punishment accordingly.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yep. And they take bypassing ignore very seriously here.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: despite such comments they'll still smash you with the ban hammer... With fairness of course 
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So continue to be ignorant for all I care. I know where you're going. :D
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: despite everything I have said and done for the MUD over the last few years, I couldn't really give a flying monkeys anus about a few harsh words from an Immortal regarding a genuine kind request for an ignore bypass in relation to an ignore that was executed whilst explaining precisely how to dodge aggro mobs in shoug'goth to a newbie on the newbie channel.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: oh boy
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Someone is looking to get banned. There goes the scripts!
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: that's a good way to get knocked down a few rungs off the  high point on the aard ladder you think you sit 
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Failurette Noegel.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: there is no ladder
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Being helpful or not, and no matter the reason you were put on ignore, you're still breaking the rules.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: only mortal/immortal
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Oh, there is very much a ladder...
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: and I know from IRL immortality is a curse.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: you can just do it again!
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: miss
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel giggles at Khannon's actions.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: let me repeat. There is no ladder. I am LoneWolf. I have been from day one.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I see a ladder
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: so go engineer a slinky with a spoon that can climb it.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: bro
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Wtf has this channel degraded into?
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: If you don't have tech talk, kindly GTFO.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: how many computer monitors can i run with 43 512mb ram chips?
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Ram doesn't determine display
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: If you'd only stick to scripting part and do less talking you probably find ladder your looking for
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: obviously it does or we wouldnt have all the chips plugged into it
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: ...
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: not searching for ladder. There is no spoon.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: The only thing that determines your display is the CPU's integrated graphics card, or your discreet graphics card, whichever the case may be.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: i think what you're talkin about are the fans that blow the dust out of the tower.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: You could theoretically run 100 displays off of 1kb ram (basically to boot the bios) if you had enough output ports.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: i keep all my parts submerged in mineral oil in a plastic tub.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel peers intently at Tearlach.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: keeps the batteries charged.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: for a GFX unit to operate with functionality it requires all the other pre-requisites in binary driven from voltage, watts, and amperes.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: you dont even need a GFX unit. they really only use those in movies.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: cant say "put fuel in car and it will move"
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: you can say it, but it probably wont work.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel buries her face in her hand and sighs, shaking her head.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: What's the matter Noegel? don't like vehicles with 300+ horse power?? I'll take you for a hot ride if you like sugar...
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm sure she has better taste.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: what if shes diabetic?
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: to be frank, my dear... I don't give a damn!
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: NEXT!
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: whos frank?
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: franks hotdogs and clams is on the other side of the foxy lady.
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Is this the new gossip channel?
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: bought to you by, Lunk
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: mebbe
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: Anyone have another map to Annwn? Looks like the Seeker's version is showing as file not found from aardwiki
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: or anyone know who to alert from seekers?
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: there is a pdf one listen on the wiki page
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: listed
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: it links to dropbox which gives an error now. Definitely worked in the past
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: please notify Ani
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: will do. thanks!
T3/r7/2017-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: i know that touchstone are hosting copies of our maps. you can look over there
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: would anyone know why a phone (samsung galaxy s5) would have sync issues with gmail? its set to check as often as it can, but sometimes i get emails late, like 2-3 days later if i dont check on my computer
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: I've had the s6 edge and now the s7 edge without any sync problems on 3 google accounts
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: yeah i sync 3 gmail accounts and my school account, last school email to sync was 6 months ago (but i have a bunch of unread stuff in my actual inbox)
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: I will say, though, that gmail has been acting strange lately, so I quit using it and I  am now using Inbox
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: as in phone app inbox?
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: are you on lollipop or marshmellow?
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: yes, the app
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: marshmellow
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: there is a new update, it might help.
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: to be fair my mic has also started going out, so i was thinking of getting a new phone anyways, i always like LG
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: would need to re-flash everything, to lazy
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: the s7 rox, but the new nexus seems to be very good.
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: probably going for an older refirb phone, thats what i did with this S5, i dont want to add too much to my bill
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: the only thing I have against the nexus is that google is more over the place that with other phones.
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: in that case look into the nexus 5.
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: not a bad phone
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: they do call the nexus 5 the google phone :)
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: maybe ill look into it, as i said i like LG i think they make a decent phone
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: the nexus is made by LG
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: ill have my friend take me to the store to take a look (its not even my mobile account)
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: you could probably by at the play store and have it mailed to you.
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: buy*
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: maybe, i like to do monthly payments though, not as much "up front" fee
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: who's your carrier?
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: tmobile
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: lease it then, it should be around 16-20 USD a month.
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: lease to own
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: it might even be brand new
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: ill talk to my friend, im not allowed to make any changes (Even buy a new phone without him)
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: they don't want you to buy it :) They want you to lease it :) But yeah, take your friend along :)
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: im going to
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyways thanks ill go check out a few stores, g'night
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Unplugged Anaristos waves goodbye to Useful Hadar.
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sometimes I feel like that guy in the skittles commercial who turns everything into skittles
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: really?
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3Zma2_n5CA
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: well, they claim it
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Anaristos Tech: heh, wow, funny and tragic :)
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quiet Nuala Tech: I have a Mush Client question
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quiet Nuala Tech: If I create a variable called portal with the content amulet, do I refer to that with the ' symbol?
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quiet Nuala Tech: I used to use Cmud/Zmud and I'm learning this Mush stuff
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: anyone have a problem with the new mush that you're not able to resize the main screen? 
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is anyone here a statistician?
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shaelynne goes ooOOooOOoo at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: It depends.
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Wasn't someone keeping a list of all the githubs and hostings of the known plugins?
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: TT++ goodness! http://i.imgur.com/fPUzxOl.png
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: If any TT++ user likes some of the crap there, ask, I may have some code you can use.
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: if next mush update lets the conf window be active while mudding calmly, id fetch it in 0,4 seconds.
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: conf window?
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: world properties
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: why would you want the properties window open while playing?
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: i just needed to be passively agressive. it passed. carry on:)
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: i have a lot of business there
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: to fine tune the bot!!
T3/r7/2017-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: since I updated my client, sending group monitor to front/back throws an error if I'm not in a group.  Anyone else have this problem?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: what's a good alternative to sharptracker?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kramercosmo Tech: how to i use bast planes script?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: hi any one here that can help me with a mapper like app for a phone please? 
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: write
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: multiline triggers will soon be fixed
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: group monitor will be fixed soon
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What was wrong with group monitor?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: a bad default variable setting causes errors. easiest way to see it is to use the z order menu options
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: right-click, send to back
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: of course all you big bads use some other group monitor plugin that I don't have access to
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, I just never use send to back.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well don't try to hide members either
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: One thing I've noticed is that mapper backups off doesn't seem to stick. I don't know what causes it to unstick, but randomly I'll get the backup message popping up.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the show players submenus will do the same error
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: why the hell would you want mapper backups off?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's a good question, but you have it in as a option for a reason. :p
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't remember what the reason was
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I should probably remove the option!
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mapper backups says what for you?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Probably because it takes a few seconds of freezing play when it runs. I prefer just to manually back it up, and if I lose anything due to an error, it's my fault.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: disable compression
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it'll be super fast
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't use compression
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Automated map database backup is currently off. Next backup would be (if enabled) in 0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds. Backup compression is currently disabled.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: with compression off a backup happens in less than a second
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because it's just a file copy
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Like I said, it randomly gets enabled, maybe when I restart MUSH? I'm going to test it now.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: shouldn't
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hit ctrl s before you leave
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: make sure your settings get saved
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Just ran mapper backup, took 3 seconds. :\
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 3 seconds without compression? wow
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: About 1.5 seconds for checking integrity.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: alright well...if 3 seconds is too much every 24 hours, hit ctrl s and quit and come back and tell me what your setting is :)
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because I want everyone to have backups, but I also want settings to persist
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Restarted MUSH: Automated map database backup is currently on. Next backup will be in 23 hours, 59 minutes, 38 seconds. Backup compression is currently disabled.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no kidding. same happens for me
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That was after ctrl s. And it's not so much that it's too much every 24 hours. I guess it's more a "Why can't you just do it at a time when I'm idle? Or allow us to set a local time to do the backup?"
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it doesn't know when you'll be idle
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and that only works if the client is always open
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if the client is always open, of course you could set a time by starting backups at that time
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, I'm thinking about my own self, since my client is always open. :p
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I am pretty sure I made it not back up during combat
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, it says something like "In combat, trying again" or at least conveys that message.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when not in combat, warn the player a backup is going to occur (with a count down every tick a few ticks before backup) unless a snooze-delay button/alias is pressed
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Anyway, time for the daily grind, back in about 10-11 hours.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: who was having a problem with multiline triggers here?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hey fiendish!
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: long time no see
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, you know I was, but now I know it's been fixed. :)
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Not I, but did you make that list of publicly hosted plugins public?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: try replacing the exe with this one https://github.com/nickgammon/mushclient/releases/download/latest_commit/MUSHclient.exe
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what list 
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't have such a list
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think it would be nice to have though
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: You told lunk in a note that you do, on a public board let me look up the note number
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no. I told lunk that I copied _his_ scripts because he has a habit of burning down the village
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: wow, I read that really wrong
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Must have been before coffee
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Well, we should do a community gathering of the public plugins for new players to pick from
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: a list of all public scripts should go on the wiki I guess if there is such a list
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Whee! seems to work with text sub!
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Now off to work! Later, all, and thanks again, Fiendish!
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: i asked for a 1TB hard drive for my birthday... my dad got me a 2TB solid state drive... and my mom upgraded our internet from 30Mbps to 100Mbps... and my friend gave me a friends and family pass to microsoft where i got Win10 Pro for $30
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: my gaming rig is -so freaking fast-
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: my family and friends are so good to me
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not sure that hd read/write speed is the bottleneck for gaming...
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It hardly ever is
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: A game that requires shuffling of several gigs of data (which would make hdds throttle) is very badly written
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: it was the only bottleneck i still had on my gaming rig - and admittedly i'm not sure whether it was Win10 or the hard drive that made things faster, my previous install of Win7 was old and kinda clogged
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: i think some of the reason it's so fast now is because i started on a clean slate
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yes, that makes a big difference
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Cleaning out unneccessary services
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: i really like the fact that win10 has the ability to do a nuke and pave without a traditional total reinstall
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, W10 is pretty awesome :)
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: and the virtual desktops... omg
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, took them long enough :P
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: yeah, i was reluctant to switch to Win10 because I liked Win7 so much and I had a bad feeling that 10 would be another Vista
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: but now that i've switched i'm actually quite happy with it
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just gotta keep track and only install the alternate versions! 
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: heheh
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: i'd really love to try to run linux and windows together in xen on this machine, but i don't have two video cards to accelerate both
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what's the point of that? 
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: i -almost- managed to do it on my crappy laptop, which was kind of an amazing accomplishment in itself, i had windows and linux running alongside each other... but couldn't accelerate both
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: um... science
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn goes "Hmmm ..." as he slowly nods his head.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: XD i'm a tinkerer, i like to see if i can do things just... to see if i can
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: i have no problem dual booting ubantu and windows on a crappy laptop i use for that kind of stuff. regular integrated HP graphics.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: dual booting and running alongside each other in xen are two different things
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: are you able to just flip over to linux instantly as if it were another desktop or do you have to reboot?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: its just a virtual machine right? im not real familiar with xen
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: yeah, xen is a virtual machine kinda thingy... xen basically is the actual operating system, but then it has whatever else you configure it for as virtual machines
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: i can flip, but it does take a bit of load time. dont need to restart.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: ahhhh ok
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: huh! that's... pretty damn cool! do you use some kind of VM program?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: cause i'd be interested in that
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: just vmware
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: ahhh, yeah, i love vmware
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: been a while since ive played around. ill have to check out xen
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: it's interesting, i've seen it in action on a computer that could handle it and it caused me to make noises that are not acceptable in mixed company
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: haha
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: you can basically alt-tab between operating systems instantly
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: while both operating systems are completely isolated from each other
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: but to have hardware accelerated graphics, you need one physical video card for each OS in your machine
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: yea, not too bad i wouldnt think. last time i built my own machine was prob 5 years ago. now i just use the customize option on the hp website. haha
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: another thing you might want to look at if you're a tinkerer is GNU HURD... it's basically an operating system that is so complex that they've been actively working on it for 20 years and it's still in early alpha
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: the idea is that different users can make changes to the base OS for themselves... without affecting other users at all
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: nice
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: it's basically some kind of incredible inception stuff and that's why they haven't really figured it out yet, haha
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caminus Tech: why am i opening menus when i try to backspace more than once
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: That's way off :P
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: miss
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: It'll be in about 4-5 hours
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: ffs
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: Sounds like you're way off
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: It's gonna shrink a lot more
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: wow, why do I keep typing tech
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: oh baby
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tearlach wiggles his eyebrows and grins wryly.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: yeah tell me about your nanometer process shrinking and reducing thermal resistance
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: u want to overclock my FSB
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: ? Khannon ?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Catas Tobe grins evilly.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: what
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: tech -h
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I was responding to you
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: ah you're no fun
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: is there a way to use a mapper portal without typing mapper portals and clicking it? a command that you can use off the index or something?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: make it an alias
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: make what an alias?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: your mapper portal commands
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: clicking something with my mouse will never be an alias
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: alias going to the destination
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I already have it in my mapper portals, it is an alias although a generic one that uses the ids of the items. 
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I was hoping there was a way to interface with the mapper and recall that information without having to type mapper portals then clicking the link given
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: there is, if you make an alias to use each particular portal. get portal bag, hold portal, enter etc
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: That would be repeat functionality
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grimvald sighs.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: re-read what I wrote
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: mapper goto 16949
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: mis, lol
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so after looking into how the mapper portals links are built, no there isn't a possible way of doing what I asked without writing it in or doing a manual alias(which is not what I was asking Grimwald)
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: It's warrior core ability since forever :P
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Anyway to track data usage? IE what is trying to download what?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: on mobile?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Compress
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: pc
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Oh, not just your mud throughput..
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Windows?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Loosing tons of data on windows
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Which windows?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Like it will use 20kbs in 5 mins then out of nowhere, 10mb in 2s
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: 7
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Your best bet is just resource monitor then
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Win+r, Resmon.exe
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Network tab?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://lifehacker.com/5059512/networx-monitors-your-bandwidth-and-more
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Under your network tab in resmon, Select bytes recieved/sec
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: windows loves background processes...
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Meh, chrome and svchost....why's svc on there?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: I know chrome is logged onto a local router, so guess it tracks that to..
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: it shares background processes
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Windows services. maybe Windows update?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Nah, it's just a univeral background sharing process
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: id bet windows updates too
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, among other things
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: svc is essentially compressing processes to reduce resource use
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Not necessarily, it's caching it.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: not so much "compressing" it
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well its normal for now, so will check directly after a spike, since it only tracks the last minute
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: either way, it reduces resources
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tearlach smirks at Asperger's Cheezburger's saying.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: which windows vers?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: 7
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: well there's 3 adresses....1 is aard, another is the IP of my modem and another is the manufacturer of said modem
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: good ole 7
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: i love 10. but the background junk takes forever to get rid off. turning off cortana, onedrive, etc..
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: I recently got a 3G dongle for mudding. The whole day my pc is on with the working dongle. At night i switch pc off and my dongles led blue light keep on blinking throught the night. The next morning my pc wont start up, I have to unplug power supply and reset CMOS battery before it will start. Why is this dongle doing this to my pc?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: The PC wont even start up, no power.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: hard one to say for me. maybe hardware issue
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: 3 month old PC
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: you every try replacing the cmos batter?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Ever since I started using the dongle, and keep it plug in at night when pc is shut down
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: does it work fine if you unplug the dongle before shutting down?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Yes, the PC only dont start the next morning, if i kept the dongle with blinking led light in the usb slot
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: I can try a new cmos batteryt
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: what model is the dongle?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: anyway to execute something saved in a variable in the form of "String"..Variable.."String"?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Its a HDSPA/Hsupa and 3g dongle
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Im just confused, why if i keep the dongle in at night while pc is shut down, the pc wont start like having no power the next morning
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: only reset the CMOS will make it get power
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: are you trying to boot off usb in bios?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: No boot from usb s deactivated in UEFI
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: what os is it on?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: 7 ultimate
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: maybe just a compatibility issue
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Perhaps, thanks for the responses.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: my brother is more of the hardware guy than i am. ill shoot him the issue and see what he might know
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stronger shakes Tearlach's hand.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: until we can figure it out i would recommmend just removing it at night so you don't potentially ruin the motherboard
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: gladecus can you show the whole line of code please?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: resetting the cmos that often, youre bound to get some static in there
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: or expand on "execute"
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well the core here, is sending something to ct.....where you pull a string from a table and add a variable to either begging, end or start.....
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: ct?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: you could use tech do you mean client?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: do you mean client?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: try this
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: Note ("String1", variable_1, "String2", variable 2)
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: stronger... still around?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well I want that sent to mud....well clantalk channel in specific
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: so you could use this
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: Send ("clan string1", variable1, "string2", variable2)
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Here now Tearlach.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: I will remove it at night Tearlach.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Will it work in the case of Table[A] = "string", var "string".   Send("Table[A]")?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: don't need to define a table in Lua
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you're a table in lua
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Nah, I mean, if a table's key is in the format string, variable, string.....will it still work in the send command?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: make a table with the table name same as a variable and use {"variable 1", "variable2", "variable3"} e.g clan_hints = {"variable 1", "variable2", "variable3"}
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not the way you've written it
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Instead of say, convert the whole line to a string?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you want to send a table member, don't wrap the whole thing in quotation marks
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Send(YourTable[A])
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what is A here?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: A is storing your table key?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or did you mean Table["A"]?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which means that A _is_ your table key
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: or in his case Send("clan", table(clan_hints))
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: So thea table won't convert something in the format of Table[A] = String, variable, string             to a single string?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Ignoring my lack of "" where needed
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: you would need to use table.insert function for that
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Example of it?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Basicaly, trying to save commands in a table that I can just prefix Clantalk to
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: stronger... he said you could also try testing it on a different usb port
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: to insert at position 2, table.insert(clan_hints(2, "string"))
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well I want it all in 1 line, in the output
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: I would advise learning Lua
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Why don't you just use something like string.format() to put everything you want into one string?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: there are plenty of resources available on the www
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: I am self-taught, anyone can do it
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: just have to want to
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: It would be easy if I wasn't trying to allow for having names in the middle of the message....
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: truth be told, tables and meta tables are considered more to be advanced Lua
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: I've only read that part of lua, lol
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: nobody wrote my scripts for me, I think I have helped you all I can.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nobody really needs to learn metatables
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's a whole extra layer that I almost never even look at
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: metatables are for when you want to write code for other people to write code with
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Kinda like lua itself, over C#?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: different type of language
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: if your going to the orient, european wouldn't get one very far.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok here's what you do Gladacus
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (moving away from tells)
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Ok....guess you could say, i want to save a line of code into a table and run it when needed
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sure sure
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: let me finish
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: first you're going to make all of your strings like this: "Hi %s, always remember...".
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus grins evilly at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: You can have lots of them in a table if you want. clantalk_table = {"Hi %s, always remember...", "Hi %s, don't forget...", "Hi %s, I love your shoes..."}
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: clantalk_table[1] will be the first message, clantalk_table[2] the second, and so on
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: we'll call these messages format patterns. notice the %s
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Sorry....haven't quite dealth with that %s
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you do string.format(clantalk_table[1], "Gladacus") you'll get the first message with your name inserted instead of the %s
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: so it would be Send(string.format(.....)) i don't wanna retype that XD
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: obviously you put it in a script
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm teaching you here
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so you would do Send("clantalk", string.format(clantalk_table[i], player_name))     and that would send the ith message using player_name as the name to clantalk
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you could do, for instance,   Send("clantalk", string.format(clantalk_table[math.random(#clantalk_table)], player_name))
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and that will send a random message from the list to clantalk using player_name
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Anyway to differentiate between 'string %s, string' and string %s......
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Then again, doesn't matter this way, lol
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I recommend reading about string.format() here: https://www.lua.org/pil/20.html
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Ignore what I just said
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: or perhaps even Send("clantalk", string.format(table.concat(clantalk_table[i], "playername")))
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: don't listen to anyone but me
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: %s Hello . would work just the same as Hi %s and welcome?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's all noise
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: except for Durel. the advice to read about string.format is sound
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: engrave this on a plaque The Jerk Fiendish Tech: don't listen to anyone but me
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so where are we...we now have a single line of lua that takes a predefined table of patterns and sends a message to clantalk customized with a player's name
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Nah, he said that my comment was OK.  I think I'll frame that :P
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: needs to put on t-shirts
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well that's all I wanted, thanks for the tip on that %s
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: then all you need to do is make an alias that uses that line (because triggers on channels are illegal I think)
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so you might do, for example
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: It doesn't apply here but what if you have 2 variables in that same type of senario?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: or perhaps even Send("clantalk", string.format(table.concat(clantalk_table, "playername")))
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: ...
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: More for future reference, since I'm likely gonna start saving the interesting convo's on tech somewhere on a notepad
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: make a client alias with the pattern "remind *" 
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (without the quotation marks of course)
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: then in that alias you add the definition of your messages table, and then also the line that sends the message, but instead of player_name you put "$1"
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well iirc it's illegal to trigger on newbie to greet someone but don't recall it illegal to trigger a greeting on ftalk or clantalk
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: whatever. I'm not interested in that
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: $1 = %1?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: uh, sure maybe
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: Hadar used to have a Tip of the day script that would trigger a different tip per player at login using tables and counters
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: in Bootclan
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Yeah, the idea is to clone that
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: In my own style of course, since Wars gave me the dea 
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: idea*
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well you can do a trigger if you want, whatever, that's not the important part
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well didn't quite get an answer on what happens if there's 2 variables in that type of senario
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Not that I need it, just more for curiosity
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: I already showed but apparently you shouldn't listen to me because it's noise
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus laughs out loud at Lunk.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: or perhaps even Send("clantalk", string.format(table.concat(clantalk_table, "playername")))
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: well if both variables aren't the same?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: then it will put the table's variables on clantalk with the players name inbetween each and at the end
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: hmm actually, not at the end, you could use
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: So you're saying, if the table has say 20 values, it'd put all 20 in 1 line as a command?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: or perhaps even Send("clantalk", string.format(table.concat(clantalk_table, "playername"))"playername")
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: the line I just gave would put all the variables on clantalk with the player's name imbetween and at the end
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: from the table
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Gladacus: for your two variable question go read about string.format
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: you can test it with Note instead of Send
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: and it will only show up on your client's screen
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can do string.format("this %s is a series %s of three %s variables", first, second, third)
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: so %s = wildcard of sorts?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it means "some string"
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's also %d for digits and other stuff for other things
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: I think for what you are trying to achieve you don't need to use string.format
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Last question.....anyway to report all contents of a table, with 1 line per value.....like concat with ;?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are a thousand ways to do everything. he only needs one of them.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's no need to use anything, there's always another thing
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: require "tprint"
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: notice the table.concat function I showed? And already answered that question?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: then tprint the table
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: tprint(my_table) will print it to your screen for debugging
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Since as you can figure....it'd be a table that would have stuff added and removed and I kinda need to post entire note to a note to report it
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: require "tprint"; tprint(my_table)
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: entire table to a note rather XD
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: that goes way above everything both of us have just tried to explain, to do that you would need a table with keys and values
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: every table has implicit numeric keys if you don't set them
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you want to see what a table looks like, use tprint
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well tprint is good....but I want that output, to be send rather than print XD
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the code for it is in MUSHclient/lua/tprint.lua but you just need to use     require "tprint" and mushclient will load it for you
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: never send structured text
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if it needs to go into a note, can't you copy and paste it?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: So, since upgrading my client, group monitor right click options for bring to front/send to back throw an error when I'm not in a group.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Ixultar: it will be fixed in a few hours when I release an update
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: thank you for the report
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: could just rty reloading it :P
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: cool, so not just me hallucinating.  Thanks, Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well I'd rather automate the posting of table key's
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: I think what he's trying to explain is he wants tables within tables so that he can have different variables with different keys called from a master table
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well I'd have one main table containing all relative tables....
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: and then more script to send those values to clantalk
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: 1 value of the many, at a time but also have a function to send the 
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: "raw" mesages to whoever requests it
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Which would be easy....if Playername == nil then Playername = "playername"
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: But I never caught the bus on the for i,v in pairs and other table for loops
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: think both Fiendish and I are out on this one Glad
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Guess I can just do my old for loop till Table[I] = nil.....
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what's going on now?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well I guess I'd better code the stuff and then ask the next question, rofl
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: It's like I said orginally, if you want to write script as complex as that, you really need to understand the fundamentals of the language and coding in general. I would suggest to start at www.lua.org and the live demo using all the available resources on the www which there are plenty of, Lua is one of the most popular scripting languages of the modern world
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well I can get it done but just trying to see if there's any less 'beat around the bush' ways XD
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: start with a simple 3 value table, and manipuolating it, try out the various table functions until you understand them, try making tables within tables and manipulating the data. That would be a good start.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: A table may have both subtables and work with key/value....right? So you can have Table.Example = {}  and Table[] on the same table?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Anway to have a table, where a subtable's name is a variable?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: use [] and not .
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: YourTable.foo is like YourTable["foo"], but you want YourTable[foo]
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: honestly, just always use []
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: But what if I have 3 layers of tables? Like Example.Example2.Example3 = {}?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: cube array?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well I mean, I don't think Example[Example2][Example3] is the same or is it?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Example[Example2][Example3]
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Knew it, was just checking if the other way would work too XD
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: using . notation with tables is a real good way to get yourself confused over whether somtehing is a variable or a string
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: [] also always works 
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and . only works for some things
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: YourTable[1] gives the first entry of an implicitly numbered list
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but YourTable.1 won't work
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I even define my tables using []
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: in those tables, would Example.[Example2] still work when table is created with [][]?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: .[ doesn't exist
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what I mean is
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well I mean without the . sorry XD
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Too used to that notation already
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you make your table like this...  YourTable =  {["color"]="red", ["number"]=5}    then you are 100% consistent when you do YourTable["color"]
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: And if you add yet another field later?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: add whatever you want
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: YourTable["height"] = "really tall"
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: now if you want to assign to some variable member of YourTable
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you could have    my_variable = "Gladacus"; YourTable[my_variable] = "wants to learn lua"
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's the same as YourTable["Gladacus"] = "wants to learn lua"
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: The last thing I can think of right now....is concating a string with a incrementing int....like Hint1...hint2...hint3....doubt its just X = X + 1..Hint..X
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: and Gladecus = {"wants to learn lua"}
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Ok, I didnt type that in the best way, lol
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can only use the .. operator if you've started with a string.   You can 100% do print("a"..1), but you cannot do print(1.."a")
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: lunk, and you couldnt access that with Gladacus since there is typo in it :)
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: and Gladecus = {"wants to learn Lua"}
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: So "Hint"..X     would work?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: print(gladecus[1]) would print Gladucus wants to learn Lua
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no it wouldn't, lol
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: Gladecus, Gladacus, Gladucus, make your mind :P
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: also why is it printing its index?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: go try in www.lua.org and the live demo Fiendish, prove me wrong.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't have to go anywhere.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: \\\Gladecus = {"wants to learn lua"}; print(Gladecus[1] == "Gladucus wants to learn Lua")
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: prints false
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: Gladececus = {"Gladecus wants to learn Lua"} would create the table "Gladecus" with key table value 1 having the string value of "Gladecus wants to learn Lua"
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well right now....moving on to concating a variable and a string, to form a string,,,,
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: print (gladecus[1]) would print the key value 1 "Gladecus wants to learn Lua"
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Gladacus: you can convert any number to a string if you want with the tostring function
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: woah Lunk, you changed what was in the table now... 
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Lunk Tech: and Gladecus = {"wants to learn lua"}
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: can you concat with that function? XD....like  can a exampel..tostring() work? XD
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Fiend beat me to it
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but you need to put something in there
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: tostring(5) for example
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are lots of ways to make sure that no matter what you do it's safe and consistent
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: so x = 1, Example..tostring(x) will be the same as Example1?  
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you want to start with a number, you _could_ do   print(""..5.." <- Look I started with a number")   or you could do    print(tonumber(5).." <- I did it again")
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: gladecus = {"wants to learn Lua"}
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: print (gleducus[1])
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: would work fine
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: gladacus: if you meant "Example" then yes, but if Example is a variable there, then it will be whatever Example is storing and then 1
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sighs at the sight of Lunk.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Lunk: not if you want it to start with his name and not "wants"
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "wants to learn Lua" is not the same string as "Gladacus wants to learn Lua"
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: so change the value of the string in table key 1 to "Gladecus wants to learn Lua"
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hmm, Fiend that does make be wonder if you can print the key and the value
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: never needed it so I never asked
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ohhhh "so fix it so that it does the right thing", well sure why not say that first
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Tol: yes 
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Tol: for any random table,        for k,v in pairs(some_table) do; print(k, v); end
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: Gladecus = {"Gladecus wants to learn Lua", "because", "it's fun and educational"} creates 3 values in table Gladecus, note the , to seperate the string entries
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the thing you have to remember about pairs though is that it doesn't guarantee ordering
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ipairs guarantees ordering, but only works for numeric keys
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: then you caould use print(Gladecus[1], Gladecus[2], Gladecus[3])
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: OR
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: a table function that will do the same thing in short hand
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: print(table.concat(Gladecus))
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Tech is just my name, rofl
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: you could add something inbetween the string entries as an extra argument in the table.concat function
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Thank you fiend, I have only ever used numerically ordered tables in that way, will try it out with pairs. 
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you have a numerically ordered table, you can loop through it with EITHER for i=1,#your_table do ....     or you can do for i in ipairs(your_table) do...
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: OR you can do for i,v in ipairs(your_table) do
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: print(table.concat(Gladecus, "(something inbetween)")
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: aye, what I meant is that is the only way that I have used enumerating tables before
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: both ipairs and pairs return key,value
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you just have to know when the use of either makes sense and when ipairs will not work properly
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: to add something at the end
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you have a mixture of both numeric and non-numeric keys (note you should really never do that, but you _can_ do it) then ipairs will stop at the first non-numeric key
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: hang on
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: that was missing the final )
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Anyawy to clear the 'loop or previous error loading module' error?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: print(table.concat(Gladecus, "(something inbetween)"))
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: to add something on the end
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what error
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: print(table.concat(Gladecus, "(something inbetween)")"something on the end")
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: I accidently didn't comment the require out of my script since I put the trigger in there incase I loose my triggers again, rofl
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: As in, an external lua file
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: there is a reload script button on the bar
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ctr+shift+r
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: who wants beer & kebab
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I do
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: I'm buying
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda perks up, something must have grabbed her attention.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: So confusing that when you pass a variable in the form of %1 to a function, it still needs the "" around it, lol
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: That one always gets me
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: What'd the difference be between Example[Example2] = {Example3 = 0} and having them in Example[][] format?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: human readable
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Exactly the same then?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hold on. I will actually read the first example. I just assumed you checked it
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: firswt example would just create 1 table
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: second would create 2
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: erm, wrong way around
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: first example would be 2 tables
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: second example 1
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: first would be 1 table with a sub table and 2nd would be two with 1 level? or other way around?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: exactly what you just said
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: not other way round
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: So which way would be more useful for saving char names and various aspects under the names?:P
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Like joindate amount of times logged on etc.....
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: first
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: The one that uses the sub table?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Also guessing a huge difference is that while A[B][C] can be a table....A[B] would be a nil
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: so you could use char_name["character_name_as_string_here"] = {joindate = join_date, times_logged = times_logged}
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: (i think)
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: How do I add more sub tables to that {} later?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: might have to put second table inside first table...
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: so you could use char_name["character_name_as_string_here" = {joindate = join_date, times_logged = times_logged}]
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Since I guess the second I call the = {Sub name = }....it recreates the table?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: seems it is not possible to define variable within a table structure in Lua
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: A = {} table.insert(A, {B = 2})
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: no one has ever mentioned tower defence
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: how would one call the value of b Tol?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: or B, even.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: print(a(b)) ?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Rofl, that %s  stuff isn't even in tech -h anymore
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: the %1 stuff I thought only worked inside the client aliases and triggers not plugin ones
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: string.format doesn't work in a plugin?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: that should
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: WHich is %s XD
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: %s I believe is a way of defining a string value within the string.format function Tol
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: I just forgot the exact syntax yet again
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I thought he was refering to the think that Nick Gammon put in for referencing things caught with * in triggers and aliases
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: A = {} table.insert(A, {B = 2}) table.insert(A, {C = 4}) tprint(A) tprint(A[1]) tprint(A[2]) print(A[2]["C"])
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: to answer your question Lunk
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: I think what he really needs is a table with entries a bit like this - char_name_and_data = {Tol, {join_date = "tol's join date as a string", logon_count = tols_logon_count_as_a_number}Fiendish, {join_date = "fiendish's join date as a string", logon_count = fiendish's_logon_count_as_a_number}}
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: like an array
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: I've tried to make it work in the live demo but I'm getting snagged defining variables within a table and calling them in a print
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: why doesn't Lua support arrays specifically?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lunk bangs head on table
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: that is a googlable qeustion
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: I knwo already tables as arrays
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: that's like saying toast as bread
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: If I leave my PC on 24/7 365 and connected to aard, will my PC break ?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: why would it?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: only if you take an axe to it while afk
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: CPU and PSU fan is trning non stop
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: If you're hacking at it with some object, it 'might'
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I mean sure in a couple of years you might see some equipment failure..
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: fans these days are good for what somewhere between 40000 and 100000 hours?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I doubt you will be able to keep a windows machine up long enough for it to break though... 
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: what's the best way to define functions that can be called from every alias/trigger? (mushclient)
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Set it in a script file to load upon startup.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: by 'sccript file' you mean game->configure->scripting?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can also go to Global Preferences and put them in the Lua tab.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok, so what other bugs are left
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: so very very many
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Wait... you probably don't mean in my crap though
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's not helpful.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: multilines fixed, comm log fixed, group window fixed, unechoed captures fixed
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what am I missing
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: mapper backups not saving option
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also fixed
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: having an issue with the masaki potion monitor plugin, anyone familiar with it?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: specific issue is that my potions aren't showing in my miniwindow
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What issue?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Are you adding them correctly?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: they've been added some time ago
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You try potmon refresh?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: not working
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You tried adding them again to make sure?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And making sure it's in your inventory when you add it first.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: had some issue with aard altogether when I first launched the mushclient and all my plugins were reset to default
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: it's all where it was 2 days ago when it worked
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I've no clue then, hmm.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: plugins don't reset themselves
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: fiendish I didn't read too close what the popups said when mushclient started but my windows were all in the default places, and out of "calibration" for lack of a better word
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: think it happened bc my computer did a hard restart the other night, closing mushclient without saving but that seems odd to me as I've saved the layout before
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Their state files were moved, deleted, or you installed in a new location then.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: w/e I'm setting things back up
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: maybe -sounds about right
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's my guess, anyway.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: anyway, things are back where I wanted them
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Good that it wasn't irreparable.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but not this potion thing
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so what is the best way to setup a bypass list that changes out automatically at particular levels?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: That's one of those things you can code, but considering how little it changes may take more time then it's worth.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: I have level triggers for that sort of thing
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Would need triggers to know what you are bypassing, and feed into GMCP to know what level you are.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: oh yeah guess you can just bypass clear...easy then.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nah, it's a simple code. Create a table, then at the levels you want to change bypass, include its own table of areas you want bypassed. Then check to see if the index is nil or has a table. bypass clear if it does, for _,v in pairs(bypass_table[lvl]) do Send("bypass " .. v) end
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Can anyone recommend a good free private web code repository?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I use github, but I don't think they allow private repositories for free.   For 25$ or so we get unlimited team members, but are restricted to 5 private repositories.  I hear bitbucket does the reverse, charging per team member but with unlimited repositories
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: 25/month?
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I think gitlab allows private too
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: yeah honestly it's a steal
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: recurring costs are evil :(
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: we'd pay tonnes more for how important it is to our workflow =p
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: but can store git files in dropbox too hehe
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: yeah this is just for a couple personal projects
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: yeah i used to run my own subversion server, guess i could set that up again
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: ok thanks guys
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: if you don't need remote access..... git as a 'protocol' isn't really a 'server technology'... basically accessing a remote git repository is just linking in to its file system hierchy
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: you could just run a local git repository in your main source folder
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: or use Windows Subsystem For Linux *gawk*
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: err, gawking is bad right.. I forget.. anyways.. the bad one
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: atlassian's bitbucket, free :-)
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: oh, they're free for teams of up to five
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the hosted is free for "small teams", up to 5 users
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: including private.
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, unlimited private
T3/r7/2017-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you can buy the server software to run on your own box (or in AWS/other hosts) if you want to control it for security, etc...one-time payment of $10 for 10 users (with 1 year upgrades)
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: came back to the table problem just now and figured this...
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: local characters = {lunk = {name = "lunk", dob = "9th March 2017",}, gladecus = {name = "gladecus", dob = "whenever"}}
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: print(characters.lunk.name)
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: print(characters.lunk.dob)
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: print(characters.gladecus.name)
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: print(characters.gladecus.dob)
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Got my Beginner's Guide to Lua book finally....
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: 876 pages >.<
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: how do I shrink the s&d window?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: my prompt trigger broke and won't respond at all.  No changes made except closing client and reopening (computer rebooted itself without permission)
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I can't fix this at all, nothing I do works.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: okay, it looks like my triggers, aliases, and whatnot have all been messed up
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: how can this happen?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Were the imported from files, or scripted directly through UI of mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I don't know
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Um
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: the computer rebooted itself because windows is a hateful piece of dog crap and now my triggers have reverted to some old version, don't know why, I didn't save these
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Did you do everything through the Game -> Configure UI...or did you script through notepad and import it that way?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: triggers were in game ui
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: every single one I made in the last few weeks is gone
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I really hate this client, honestly
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: have you tried to create new plugin by any chance?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: so mayve you've renamed world ?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: no. changes. made.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: literally only thing that happens is that dumbass windows rebooted, I reopened client, triggers gone
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: god damnit, aliases all broke too
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: literally every thing is reverted to obsolete old version and I have no idea how or why
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I am currently using Mush atm, but I am a bigger fan of Mm2k6, only because I can script it and I know it's language. >.<
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I'm glad I wrote my functions in a separate script file, who knew this piece of crap would randomly do things like this?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: look for Aardwolf.mcl (check also whether there are other *.mcl files) - then open file and locate <triggers part - and check whether there are your triggers
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: does the client randomly not save the world file or something?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: however, if your previous files were restored - I think you use something like shadow volume copies
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Or does it do the really stupid thing of only saving it when you close the client?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: so you problem in fact is with your filesystem not mush client
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I don't use shadow volume anything
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: cannot open that file btw
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: ugh, it looks like the settings are just gone.  piece of CRAP client!
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: so why "dumbass windows rebooted," ?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: updates, probably.  I thought I had disabled that but I guess not.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: are you using some crypto security enabled windows, so after reboot your files are returned to "clean" state?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mushclient doesn't autosave all the time, only when you close it
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you haven't closed mush for weeks, then that could explain it
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: no, nothing of the sort
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: may want to use the following script: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/?id=8729
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: right, question is whether you have saved settings after creating those triggers/aliases (they can be saved if you close mush)  - if your mush was running weeks without restart then it was possible they were not saved
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: ...
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: That is so stupid
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Zmud was like that, and it was bloody retarded
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: You're kidding me, this piece of garbage only saves when it closes?!
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: that is smart, it is your choice to keep all settings (triggers/aliases) till you overwrite them with new ones
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: just press ctrl-s next time
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or use that plugin to autosave
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: You're f'ing kidding me right?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: It really only saves when you exit?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}G'day! Rumour Tech: easy on the language!
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Could always learn a scripting language, keep the scripts saved on computer itself, and import/upload when needed.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neo Anaristos Tech: write your scripts on a text file and point mush to it.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: ^
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: you create *temporary* aliases/triggers because you do not want to mess up your working aliases/triggers, after extensive testing either you save it with ctrl-s or just quit mush without saving new broken aliases/triggers - so after restart you get back your perfect previous working aliases/triggers
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I do write my scripts in a file.  I didn't realize Mushclient was so bloody retarded that it only saves on exit.  That's the stupidest design decision imaginable given that we KNOW players leave it open for days on end!
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Stupid. Design. Decision!
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you have an option to have it autosave
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't know what you're whining about
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: What language you scripting in?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: also, for most players there's not even a daily significant change in the settings. so frequent saving might be overkill.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Well, thanks for letting me know.  No, I'm not sorry about the "language".
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Need a manpon, brah?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I r teh ignored Q.Q
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/?id=8729
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: if you don't have that as a plugin, install it.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: btw, anyone coming from cmud is going to expect the client to automatically save settings and whatnot, we haven't had manual save / save on exit only since zmud, and it was one of zmud's worst features.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: Live, learn, and move on.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel runs away from Impuritan in utter terror and horror!
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: autosave is one of the worst features on a buggy client
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Anyway, highly recommend that plugin, no reason not to have it.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: auto-backups are safer than autosaves (unless multiple runaway backups cause the last decent backup to drop off the end and disappear)
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: I need some help, out of the blue my laptop thinks I dont have a operating system... what do I do?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: When I try and boot it on it immediately tells me "Operation System Not Found"
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: recovery disk
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: check boot order
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: The boot order has always been hardrive first but just the other day the hardrive wasnt detected then a day later all was fine
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: I dont have a disk with any windows software on it with me... ill have to create one at a later stage
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: Im worried if some sort of trojan horse infected my bios
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: How can I get my keyboards number pad to type into the mushclient? Num lock is not on
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: To type numbers?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Shift-Ctrl-1, disable "Keypad Keys'
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: you are awesome thank you
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: How does one change the mushclient background? Not the window background, but the grey 'slate' texture in the main mush "container"?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: self-answer: it is 'bg1.png' in the plugins/worlds/images folder
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what are you changing it to?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Just a black image. I find I like a 'borderless' style to everything (I'm tinkering with yanking the borders off the miniwindows as well)
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: If I get really ambitious I'll add actual menu options for it and send a patch request. But it is mostly my own craziness.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: fiendish, can the conf window(world properties) made to not.. ugh. made so that it could be open as another independant win (another monitor even) and still be able to play in main?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't believe so
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you're trying to edit triggers while playing?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I tend to do everything in plugins, which avoids this problem
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It would be nice to be able to switch to the MUD to answer questions quickly with the editors open, but that's something Nick will have to do.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: yep. and aliases.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There are some things that aren't plugin-worthy (a quick trigger to hold a staff if your current one runs out, for example).
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they could still all go in a plugin called my_triggers_and_alises.xml or whatever
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Personally, since 99% of my stuff is written in script, I do it all in an editor and just copy/paste once I'm ready.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: winklewinkle's broken legacy continues to disrupt
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: cytan: finger nokfah or lunk
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: can you help me
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: is their someone that can help me?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not without knowing what you need help with.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Never ask if someone can help you. Instaed, just ask the question.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: i just got back a relized my armor that i was holding in my inv is gone
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If someone's here and can answer it, they will.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this is a tech question how?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Are you sure it's not just invisible?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: im sorry
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And yes, better suited on q/a or even newbie channel if you have access to it.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No invis items in your inventory, but I see a lot of stuff there.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: any steel armor
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Steel plated boots, codpiece, gauntlets, sleeves, breastplate, helm, bracer, kite shield, yes.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: None of it invisible, so you should be able to see it.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: duh i see it to? but it was gone somewhere
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: anyways thank you and i will keep q/a questions to q/a not tech
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not sure what to tell you. Maybe you did inv <keyword> by mistake.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Anyone know a good resource on breaking a map up into a grid for pathing purposes?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I have a polygon of unusual shape, it represents a land mass. I have decided to break it up into 200 ftx 200ft sections. I am missing the part on how to use this information to get a decent pathfinding alg working. 
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: most path finding algos I know work on graphs, not grids.  but grids can easily convert to graphs. I mean, you can represent any grid as a graph.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: aye, that might be the part that I am stuck on
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: varname = false; if not varname then varname = false end -- Why did I do that? I obviously defined it in the line prior to the if statement... *sigh* Adventures of writing scripts...
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: the go-to path finding algo is dijkstra's shortest path algorithm.  It's my favourite at least.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: maybe you did it to slow down the script by a microsecond or so!!?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers with [Outlaw] Mendaloth about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: other day I couldn't figure out why a tintin plugin wasn't being read, turns out if you use a var to provide the directory, then 3 or 4 lines after define the var it doesn't work.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: try disabling your dirty bot script?!
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox wuv [Outlaw] Mendaloth. Aww, how coot.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: why I always require a var be initialized if language allows it.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at [Outlaw] Mendaloth.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: sounds stupid but I'm having trouble getting to the bottom of my chat log window. Any ideas on resizing it?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: scroll?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: right click and bring to front maybe helps to see resizing?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: the bottom of the window is below my screen view if that makes sense
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: bringing to front didn't help
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: and scrolling doesn't either
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Tried resetaard?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: oh nice, didn't know that command
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: that got it, thanks
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: keep getting this error Trigger function "process_prompt" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish bursts into tears.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: can you scroll back and find the first error?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: Plugin: xStats_Detector (called from world: Aardwolf)
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and then?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: is there a way to get the client to offer to update the package for me if I said no once? 
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: package update check
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: Function/Sub: process_prompt called by trigger
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: R1900 up to date
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: rhazien: error messages are never only one or two lines. you have to post the whole thing
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: package update check was for shaelynne
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: http://pastebin.com/hQAy972N
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: hrm, am I missing something? I chose to update, it brought me to the website, I hit download....then I clicked on the EXE file, but nothing happens after
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I had to disable Avast
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: first, definitely close mushclient
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: ah! okay 
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you had to disable avast?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: antivirus
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: otherwise it just hangs
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: mine worked fine, this error started today, was fine yesterday, did install the r1900 update
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i closed it out, ran it, opened again...still offering to update to 1900
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: shaelynne: you're on a mac, right?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: yes i am 
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: someone else ran the updater on a mac and it worked
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I forget who
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: PC here
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: two different conversations
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: Fiendish, did the updater for it change? Before I did the most recent update, when I would hit yet it would immeidately download the file and run the process and be finished. BUt now it's taking me to a website to download it 
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyone know what plugin is xStats_Detector?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Shaelynne: yes
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Fiendish: https://github.com/nickgammon/plugins/blob/master/aardwolf/Stats_Detector.xml ?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: nick gammon
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Shaelynne: yes I binned the automatic install thing because there are too many moving parts and people were still having problems with it
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the installer download should be universally better, assuming it runs of course
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: this is true, i was having problems with it downloading a whole new copy of mush into my original. was going to tell you when i noticed, but decide dto wait and see if the update fixed the problem
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: The 'unzip and go' is really quite nice
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Daagar: no unzip
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Daagar: install on top
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: The 'download and go' is quite nice :)
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Daagar: I mean...you _could_ still use the .zip like before, but the installer exe means you no longer need to transfer state and mapper database files over
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so I think people should use the installer
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Nah, that's what I meant. I can't remember back 4 days that it was an actual installer and not just a .zip/whatever.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: okay, it's working now. I had to go in to my downloads and open it manually, just opening it once didn't work for some reason
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Point being, the new process is no more arduous than the auto-update from in-game. So... kudos :)
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: btw no one offered to do the Info Communication Boxes =( so...maybe you could put that on your todo list for sometime! 
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Shaelynne: maybe sierra's "intenet download assumed unsafe" protection thing?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Shaelynne: yeah
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Shaelynne: looks like
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: im still running El Captain
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think el capitan might also have it
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i installed Sierra on my macbook pro...and I suddenly couldn't copy/paste without crashing the client repeatedly
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Which version of wine are you using Shae?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: yeah, im avoiding swapping to Sierra until they update Wine for it 
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: 2.0
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Mine is 2.4
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I think I am able to copy/paste just fine
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I don't wanna try now haha
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I'm on Sierra btw
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: okay had to close it and reopen it, works fine
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: it was really bad...every single time I copied from the mud it crashed
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bamboo maybe you could tell shaelynne how you installed wine
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Well I had the previous version installed through brew
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Uninstalled through it as well, then removed the ".wine" folders
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: interesting. I wonder if I should update my wiki to use homebrew instead of suggesting winebottler
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Downloaded from wine hq (the package file), and it's pretty much intuitive from there
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i got rid of winebottler and then i downloaded 2.0 from HQ 
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: that's what fixed my issues that I was having from earlier this week 
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Well 2.4 is out now
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: but it's not stable and if it's going to crash on anyone it's me...im prone =( 
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: you're using 2.4 and sierra Bam? 
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Rhazien: the error message you linked indicates that you got only a partial statmon
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "{stats}556/395,248/100,324/187,567/395,580/395,454/287,100,100,100,951,1042,You are Standing.,"
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's incomplete
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's also weird
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but let me look into it
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what are you using xStats_Detector for, anyway?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Rhazien?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok, anyone else want to clue me in on what xStats_Detector might be used for?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: since Rhazien has apparently run off
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: would Bast's plugins use it (I think it was bast that had an alternate stats window...)?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: it fixed itself
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Rhazien: yeah, but what CAUSED it?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: did you look at my pastebin? http://pastebin.com/hQAy972N
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I was talking to you about i
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: about it
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: [18 Mar 12:28:47] Fiendish Tech: Rhazien: the error message you linked indicates that you got only a partial statmon
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: [18 Mar 12:29:09] Fiendish Tech: "{stats}556/395,248/100,324/187,567/395,580/395,454/287,100,100,100,951,1042,You are Standing.,"
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: [18 Mar 12:29:13] Fiendish Tech: that's incomplete
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: also it changed my page size to zero as well
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: changed it to 100
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: logged out closed mush, went back in, and its fine
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it set your pagesize to 0?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what set your pagesize to 0?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: before it indexed all the areas
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: now I don't know what you're talking about
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: whatever it is, it's not mine
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: yep, no problem, fixed itself, sorry fro the trouble
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: problems don't fix themselves. they come back later
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: and i'll post it when it happens, pastebin it
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: also removed winkles sound pack as well.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: to troubleshoot it
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: ok reinstalled it
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: brb
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: so it was the sound pack that changed it to page size 0
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: really?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I wonder why
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: i think this is a tech question, it
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: i need some assistance with this invdata stuff
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what about it
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: about my problem>
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "stuff"
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you didn't indicate a problem
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: its about my inv
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what about your inv
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: everytime i go into my inv it shows half of what i normal have
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: i have tried tags being turned off
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: don't do that
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: what
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: don't turn tags off
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never turn off tags, unless you're not using MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can turn off individual tags
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but my bet is that you have invis items in your inventory
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: will you help me find it and get rid of it
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: get rid of what?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: what you just aid
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: runto potions, buy "sight beyond sight", quaff that
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: buy a potion of detect invis
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: yah but how long will that last
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Or drop acid, you can definitely see a lot more then normally that way also.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: long enough to look at the items in your inventory and get rid of them
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: keep using the pots until you remort psi or mage
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they'll say (invis) or (i) on the left of the name
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: im a warrior
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: nm
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: A little from column a and a little from column b, Alaris
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Dammit. Mischan, sorry. Gotta stop reading and typing at the same time.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You fluffle Birdbrain Metria mercilessly, making his fur a terrible mess.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and turn your tags back on
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pace Tech: all of them
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just the global one
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just type "tags on"
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or disconnect and reconnect and let mushclient do it for you
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I wonder where pace went
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Hmm. If I change the default ANSI red color in mushclient, it breaks all red output in-game.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: breaks or changes?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Well... disables. All text formerly red is now the default text color.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: If I adjust it back to the default red, it restores itself.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do you mean the default text color...the color would depend on your colorset settings
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: right - anything set to 'xterm 9' in colorset displays as the default gray.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xterm 9 isn't an ANSI color at all, so that's not red
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Xterm_color_chart.png
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: First 16 are ANSI
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're ANSI "equivalent", but they're not actually ANSI
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: set it to @r and see what happens
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Okay then... changing Mushclients color for ANSI red breaks the in-game display of anything using 
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: I was really looking to confirm it was a real issue, or just me for some reason.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd try downloading a fresh zipfile, don't bother transferring anything over, just connect from that to test quickly to see if the behavior is the same
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Ah, well - I see what you mean about the difference between xterm-alike colors and ANSI though
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holthausen Tech: I just changed my reds yesterday and they work fine
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: If I change to a true ansi color (ie., from red to yellow) that works fine
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Holt - what color did you change it to?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, at least that's good...what if you set it to 124 instead of 9?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holthausen Tech: a lighter red
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holthausen Tech: 234,0,0
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: l
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: You changed it via display->output->ANSI Colors?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: er... game->configure->Ansi colors I guess it is
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holthausen Tech: yeah the 2nd one
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: well how strange then
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: I was basically trying to get 'Daily Blessing' and 'NOEXP' to not be so harsh (ie., things not settable with colorset)
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I usually change blue to be readable on black background in my terminals
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: that too - hadn't gotten to blue yet :)
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Well, a (quite) old aardclient version worked fine. So I'll poke around further.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Something to do with the aardclient. pure mushclient works fine. Will start the plugin disabling game...
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd try just different versions of the aardclient...try the one on the aard website vs the latest one from github
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: I've tried 1899 and 1900, and some ancient version like 1874 (which worked)
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the very bleeding edge one has had some significant overhault
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1874 isn't ancient
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the one on the aard website is 1825
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think I might have a copy of r865.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: it is the Text Substitutions plugin
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd try 1887, and note Fiendish about the issue (or post on the github)
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, no big surprise there, it essentially reinvented a good portion of what makes the client display stuff
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: will try to debiug it some more so I can send Fiendish something worthwhile rather than just 'it's broke'
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool, even better :-)
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oscillous Tech: is this channel explicitly for technical aspects of this game?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any techie stuff...help with your VCR, etc.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: picking on tinyfugue users, etc.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oscillous Tech: I see
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oscillous Tech: ok, thank you. I had some questions regarding C# and was told that this channel woud be a good place to look for advice
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: definately.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oscillous Tech: anyone savy in the language?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: in this channel, ask and recieve is the way. you may recieve answer in hours. or minutes. but just ask the question and someone once they read their history will answer for you
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oscillous Tech: I see
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oscillous Tech: do I simply ask here and now, or is there a "forum" that I need to "post" to?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just ask your question
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oscillous Tech: what is the best way to write an object list to an XML file in C#?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: So somehow I've disabled chat channels outputting to the Communication Log in MUSH
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: I can see them in the main output window if I turn on the echoing but I usually keep that off and just use the comm log.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: Right Click on the window
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: Select customize channel
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: test
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: Oh, well then. That works. Don't know how that got turned off.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hovik Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: in the end of S&D I see somenthing with notes, how can edit one of it?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: you mean notes in the mapper?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: No, the [notes] at the far right of each entry
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: ~~~  1      a relaxing guard     - firenation     [notes]
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: somenthing like that
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea thats the mapper
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: notes means theres a note for the room
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: What if it's not a 'room' cp/gq
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: how can I add some notes to there?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: By going to the room and adding notes.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I thought that the notes were just the room notes
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you can right click the room and click edit note, or mappper addnote (room id)
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Ahh, when you click on it, it returns a list of note per room
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: ahhhh, ok, so only a note appears there if the room like that has one note?
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: if it is a standard (area) quest clicking the notes will list all notes for the area
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: !quest, campaign
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: gotcha, I clicked there and found some notes, thank you very much
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I use it when I find a mob that is nowhere I put a note in the room I found it in with the roomnumber and mobname
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Hax!
T3/r7/2017-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: also for notes about where the stupid keys are for things I don't remember
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: cool bug report from daagar
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gerling Tech: Is there a way for me to set up tags via GMCP? 'protocols gmcp' has a Tags line but I couldn't find how to use it.
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define "set up"
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the line in protocols probably doesn't mean what you think it does
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gerling Tech: in the same way something like 'tags bigmap on' would work
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok, a few points then
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 1) if you're using a script that uses the tags, the script should be turning it on for you already. 2) no, but you can through the older telopt mechanism for some of them
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: see 'help telopts
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the line in protocols gmcp means that enabling tags only happens for the current session instead of persisting across all sessions regardless of what client you're using and what scripts you have loaded
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gerling Tech: so it's an on/off option like all the others?
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's why it says "On/Off"
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gerling Tech: Tags actually says 'Default', which is why I was curious
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you're using the aardwolf mushclient package?
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gerling Tech: right now, yes
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: type checkversion please
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gerling Tech: version r1825
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: versions past 1898 set that to On
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gerling Tech: ok, thanks a lot, I'll take a look at it
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/   but if you change your client color settings, I'd wait until tomorrow
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: i'm fixing a bug
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Has anyone said "Thank you" Fiendish? :D
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but you're still welcome
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gerling Tech: I'll wait for the fix then, thanks again.
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mind the only bug I know about right now happens if you change your client color settings. if you don't do that, then it's fine 
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well, for some value of "fine"
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: anyone else having issues with mushclient under wine on a mac?
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech} Missing from around 10:49:12 until MUD rebooted at 12:11:27
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: anyone else having wine issues with new MUSHClient.  Ran the installer, now can't click the Ignore button, never see it
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: never mind, wiping out .wine and running again I could click the ignore
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: does using mapper ninja overwrite winklewinkle mapper extender?
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Do you need a motherboard compatible for a DDR5 Graphic card? Got a DDR3 gpu installed atm.
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: does anyone know a program (for mac) that lets you print out a picture to a specific size...so it will print out multiple pages to create an image of say 18 inches HxWxL 
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Shaelynne: There's websites that will do that for you.
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horg Tech: How do I get an iquivellent to grep in game?
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: iquivellent = equivalent? and grep = ??
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Gag?
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: grep means a Unix command used to search files for the occurrence of a string of characters that matches a specified pattern or search for (a string of characters) using grep.
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I never heard of the term before.
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horg Tech: It's okay. I am a UNIX fiend.
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: you want to search the output of commands?
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horg Tech: Indeed.
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: what client are you using?
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horg Tech: TinTin.
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: Well there is no mudside way to do it, nor is there any way to isolate the output of most commands
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: If you used mush, my suggestion would have been to just use ctrl+f but you can't really do that in TT
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horg Tech: The goal is to implement three commands. hp returns strictly hitpoints, mv movement, and mn mana.
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: use GMCP for that
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: the aarwdolf-tintin package has scripts to deal with the MUD's GMCP output so it shouldn't be too hard
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: just fixed attack spell manager to save over sessions for anyone intrested
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lunk Tech: potman has had an update too
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: ok in mushclient im trying to customize my channel output into the chat screen. I seem to be able to only select 1 or a bunch wish shift click. is there a way to select specific channels?
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Tech: ctrl+click
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: thx arf sry for the late response
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: so neither edge or firefox is detecting my microsoft silverlight install, was working a couple days ago when i checked, just reinstalled and still nothing, anyone know what might cause that
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samsung Tech: hi i made the text on aardmuch on mybsuprr tiny.  anyone know how tobfix
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samsung Tech: on my phone
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: what client are you using
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samsung Tech: aardwolf client
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: I'm sure that's based on blowtorch so hit the 3 dots in the upper right hand corner of the screen. Click options, then window, then font size
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samsung Tech: no dots 
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: hit the back button to get rid. Of the on screen keyboard. Can't see them with it up
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: I find that the non Aardwolf Blowtorch client is way better for Aardwolf than the aardwolf client oddly enough. 
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samsung Tech: still nodots
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samsung Tech: ok maybe ill just change clients
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samsung Tech: or buy a magnifying glads
T3/r7/2017-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: if there's no dots still I'm not sure you're on the client I'm thinking of. 
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Anyone else us Mushclient - Aardwolf have issues where their Time to tick: (x) at the bottom left hand corner doesn't work? Is there a way to fix it?
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Hmm, I can't get my sounds triggers to work after update, paths are correct, sound file works just fine, it works with [Test} button too, but when testing with Ctrl+Alt F12, it doesn't work...
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Multiline triggers were fixed righto?
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: My GQ sound trigger not working :((
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: just vol up
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Khannon bonks Deuter on the head for being such an UTTER moron.
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: or turn speakers on :P
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: anyway - start with testing whether sound works - just pre Test button in trigger window
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: do tech -h
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: have you checked triggers sound on?
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Yes... my quest triggers work, doubles too, but GQ is not working
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: check mcl file - compare working triggers with that for GQ
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: GQ has multiple wildcards compared to rest which have none one or none
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: It works on older versions
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Doesnät work on newerst mush
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: for gq it is enough: ^Global Quest: The quest will start(?s)
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: just tick ignore case and regular expression
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Yes, not exactly making triggers first time :P there's reason why it's made it way it is
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: or change priority
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: quite possible you use some other plugin that consumes GQ messages
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: assuming it was broken previously - new update has fixed / changed its priority - and now some other plugin default action fires before your trigger 
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: well I think it's multiple wildcards, I'll cut it shorter, though it's another drawback from newer version, oh well
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Ok found issue, it was because [Global Quest:] Global Quest - the brackets part was no longer needed with GMCP tags
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Or something like that
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LuaLife Tech: Is it not possible to have comms be both through gmcp and regular text?
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: how disable in spellup plugin some spells?
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: im new to this client and scripting , trying to make a rewield trigger , * DISARMS = get weapon , wield weapon , but it doesnt recognize the weapon
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: using basts plugin too but i dont know how to make the disarm trigger recognize weapon either
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: set the trigger to use in-game aliases to get (weapon);wield (weapon), change the in-game aliases as you change weapons
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: and send to world ? or execute
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if you're using in-game aliases it doesn't matter
T3/r7/2017-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Not on mushclient but can anyone confirm the way to turn INFO channel echoes off in comm log?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: right click on comm log and turn info off from capture other info
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I had asked this the other day but didn't really get an answer. What is the 'standard' memory useage for mushclinet?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Specifically if left open for a few days or so
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: when freshly opened mushclient seems to use about 151 Mb of memory, I just restarted because it was using 1.6Gb of memory
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Titmouse Tussin Tech: mine's been open 6 days, 43 MB used, OS is Win10
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Titmouse Tussin Tech: I just have stock aard plugins with the official installer
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Ok, thanks for the feedback
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Reason I like D3 - It's good for a week maybe longer if some old friends jump in, it's around the time where PoE turns into massive time sink in map grinding/reputation grinding with masters, and if your looking to get some build working, fishing market for good deals, if I had 10h a day to play it I'd probably play it, but casual D3 is good fun :P
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Oh that was miss
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Khannon runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: any scripting gods around?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: but I am busy now
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Better to just ask your question anyway.
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Sooo
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sooo is not a question.
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's not even a word.
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: How do start by, I wanna make addition to script/plugin to calculate average time for example CP's, it already counts CP starttimer/endtimer
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So each time you finish it, add the seconds to your stored variable, and do the average off that.
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: best store it to mysql database (and cp targets)
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The same way you find out how long it took you to do a cp, you'd do for the "total_seconds/total_campaigns"
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bast's statdb already does stuff like that, storing it in sqlite db
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Screw storing it to mysql databases.
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I know, my Bast doesn't work for CP's
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you mentioned that to Bast?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: So I'm using Nokfah, not ment to be shared public version
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Nope I haven't, I've actually seen it work, Monukie had it working, but I can't get it to work for me
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, stuff doesn't get fixed if problems aren't brought up to the authors :P
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: buttt all authors are generally very lazy it's free work they do! I'd be lazy too!
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as with Fiendish's stuff, all he knows is "it works for me"
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, just to be clear, I'm not talking about Bast's campaign plugin
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So don't be a cheapskate and pay the author to fix it.
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Khannon, generalize much!  
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I do wonder though why does the CP part not work, but questing/pups/levels work
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Heyyy Mendaloth did fix his plugin!
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: On second day too!
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But yeah would suggest you submit it as an issue, that's the fastest way to at least let me see it.
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that's a nice thing with public repositories, too...other people can submit fixes
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I'm not entirely sure what's the issue, beside it's not working for me hmmm
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I don't know if anyone else uses it for CP's much
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, describe in what way it's not working
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Start with does it even realize you are on a CP?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: It simply doesn't display the completed report in my chosen channel, gt for instance
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If I had to guess, it hasn't been updated to match requesting from other questors...try requesting from COmmander Barcett, notice any difference?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I'm not sure how it's supposed to realize it, there's no feedback before I actually finish it
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Do you have the statmn window, where you can see all your recent CPs?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Oh yeah, Nokfah script had that issue, it only worked with Barcett so he pointed me to replace it with wildcard and it works for completed time now
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: hmm let's see if it works on barcett
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: so I requested it from Barcett, one of things why I turned off CP plugin, the line for do I need to level up to get new CP or not disappears
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Talking about Bast CP plugin, assume it should be ON for CP function to work with statmn?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I would just install/enable statdb...bast's stuff will bring in any prerequisites automatically
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Bah, everytime you disable/enable plugings need to tag off underlining
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: statdb is enabled
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: from looking at it, you shouldn't need to use barcett for campaigns...match=".* tells you 'Type 'campaign info' to see what you must kill.'"
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: wut, it works in tracker channel
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Khannon walks around in the room, looking very confused.
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: There's another thing anyway I wanted to ask, everytime I shut off PC, I've already closed mushclient, it pops message document fails to save or similar text related to Mush
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it say which file failed to save? are you using a file sync tool (like dropbox) on your MUSHclient folder?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Nope, I'm using Asus Storage, but nothing related to MUSH is saved there
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: it doesn't say anything else just document fails to save (can't recall exact phrase) but no pointer which document
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: It's annoying to try too, I guess I'l restart PC to get refresh on thast
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so there's no error on quitting MUSHclient, only on shutting down/restarting?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: Yeah I get that too...
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: Glad it isn't just me...
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: I get it when I quit...
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Obviously now it didn't give me this message...
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Yeah, no error on closing MUSHclient, last 2 nights when I've shutdown PC it gave me that message
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: it doesn't actually seem to not save anything, keypads and all the settings are same as when I closed MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: in mushclient, how do i change it so that when i edit a plugin, it opens it in an external editor?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Game->Configure->Scripting   uncheck use inbuilt notepad
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: perfect! thanks
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: So I found out just now why, GQ triggers have no sound, global quest announcement channel is not going through main screen, it's only in Comm Log, I'm not sure why, tags/channels are on
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: right click on comm log, echo in main window option?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea, its one of the "Other" options
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Oh, dammit why are they all disbled
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: maybe accidentally clicked "echo none"?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: No I blame Fiendish updates!
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: was someone talking about a problem channels since the update
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: khannon said his echo other info in comm log was turned off
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: oh...my info channel wont show up in the main window...I had to move it to comlog to see it...which sucks as Advisor
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: maybe also turn on echo other?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yeah, right click comm log
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: did you check your echo other settings?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I don't know why were they all taken off with update, could have some notice about it, I've only ever been in comm options once before
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I turned the echo on to my comlog already
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: You can turn echo from comm to main window too
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: check Echo other. NJust to be sure
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: OH...how do I do that...I am sorry
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I am listening
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: it should have showed up in main anyway if you didnt have it in comm log before
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: right click->echo channels in main->echo other
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: rightclick comm log that is
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yes comm log
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: that is what they told me to do to move it to comlog
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: nah thats "capture other info"
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok so right click then what
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: echo channels in main->echo other info
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: if theres not one, put a check box on "INFO:"
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: check mark*
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok...we will see if it works...it says it is enabled
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it was off and you turned it on?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: then it should work
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: then off and back on :)
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I spent all morning diabling trigger and plugins to see if they were 'gagging' me
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Still hoping to get proper underline fix eventually
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: im still holding out for blinking text in mush
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: wow blinking text brings memories from jaymod I think client I used back in days
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: wny not moving pictures?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: It worked!!!!!
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Khannon, regarding your channel triggers, the reason is that the new MUSHclient tells the MUD to deliver channels via GMCP-only, and the channels are never sent as text for your triggers to fire on
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and neat, I didn't know about the setting to use an external editor from within MUSHclient, I always just opened up plugin files externally and reloaded when I was done
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Yeah I didn't fully grasp it, could been note to dummies to turn echo back on main window :P
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: echo wouldn't have any impact on it
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not that they're not echoed in the main window, it's that they're never sent as text in the first place
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: But if you turn echo channels to main window then it displays those channels in main window and triggers I use work again
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ohhh, I forgot that Fiendish uses a special function to echo those in a way which would work...he tells MUSHclient to pretend that they came through normal MUD output using simulate
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: how do you make alias that expands another alias?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: send to execute
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: er... where's that?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it's default send to world
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: there's a drop down menu
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: Ah ha
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: mushclient does things in a weird way but i'm getting used to it
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: how do you disable normal function of F1-4 to use with macros?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: SHIFT CTRL 2, brings up the Macros - assuming you are talking Mushclient
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: I don't know about F1... but you can still make a macro for F1, and if you hit F1 it opens up help.. Just leave it open and minimize it and it won't open again...
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'm not sure if it's possible to F1 though, I think it is with some extra hoops (Maybe a config checkbox or you have to use an accelerator...)
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ya, there's an box to check/uncheck(idr) for f1
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: yes mush.  it is possible. on my other laptop i have it set that way but can't remember how
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out http://abelinc.me/aardclientfaq for how to let F1 be a macro
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endrex Tech: on creating new buttons... long press?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for blowtorch, yes
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: AHAH!! thank you Abe
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endrex Tech: this the aardwolf app abe.. i think
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: oh thats wierd it was already checked.. still opening help..
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the android aardwolRPG app is blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endrex Tech: sorry abe ...  having problems getting the long press to work
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try toggling fullscreen and try again
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endrex Tech: 10 4
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: ok this F1 issue is going to drive me nutty... i've unchecked, checked, unchecked, etc etc still opening up help
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endrex Tech: no change abe
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you're not trying to do it in the input bar or where another button is?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endrex Tech: correct... just long holding on the screen
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endrex Tech: i just move the button ware i want it after creation
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did it used to work and it stopped at some point?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endrex Tech: yup made 4 buttons then stoped working
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <IT crowd mode> have you tried quitting the app and relaunching, or rebooting the phone?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endrex Tech: yup... 
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endrex Tech: now when or long pressing it wants to bring up a message that the app has crashed
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I spent my free time over the last few weeks writing my own equipment manager and I just now discovered that invmon and invdetails exist. That's...embarassing.  I should probably take this over to curse now...
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endrex Tech: Heh
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyone know a good free video editing software that support multiple audio channels? i normally use 4 audio channels, and 1 video channel when im editing (sometimes 2 video but not as much)
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: ok so how do you change your F keys to where you have to hold down th 'fn' key to use the 'fn' functions?  currently when i press the "F" keys they do their "fn" function... its bassackards... need help
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's a function of your laptop
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: i understand that.
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's probably a fn lock key
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: different laptops handle it differently, so couldn't speak to yours
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: no fn lock key. basic keyboard. i have to hold the 'fn' key to use F keys as you would normally... augh
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: if its lenovo there might be a BIOS setting
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: its a stupid hp
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: Is there a keyboard settings? What os you using? Winblows?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: did you try googling it?
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: winblows 10 yesiree
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Stile.
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first entry in google of hp laptop function lock
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: Nice, well on that note, doing this 1 more quest then hitting the sack :)
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: wow just wow. hate hp even more now lol
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stile nods at Lyrik.
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: Yeah I wouldn't buy an hp ever again... Also don't care for winblows either heh
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: its a 'loner'
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A winner is Stile!
T3/r7/2017-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: Yeah, gotta do what ya gotta do sometimes :)
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrik Tech: i am still baffled by the relentless stupidity of HP... why would they make the function key default enabled??? it has always been 'you have to press the function key to use the other FUNCTION of another key' what sence does this make?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: what is a good command to keep alive besides look.  something with low output
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: carriage return
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: did not work as a timer
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: ctech I am having trouble with some windows on my mushclient. One of them will not move, can anyone help?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: Maybe they are not windows but plugins.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: have you tried aardreset or resetaard can't remember which one it is
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: no, I will try that now. I just type either of those words?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: it resets all window positions
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: and yes but i  can never remember which one it is
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: resetaard is the one.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: but it did not move the plugin I wanted to move. It stayed in the same place.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: what plugin do you want to move?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: it is the one that shows campaigns list of mobs when I get a campaign
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: there are many of those :)
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: it has go ? ak <*> hta clr at the top
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: above that is search& destroy GUI, drag it from there
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you can also type xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: that is hidden by a mushclient bar so I can't seem to grab it. I think when I was rearranging I put it too far at the top and now it is stuck.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: type xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: that did it. Thank you very much.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeJean Tech: Why is it that I can't automatically go through doors when I have a mapper cexit?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: typo in cexit?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: have you mapped each door correctly both ways?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeJean Tech: It said the cexit was successfully added, but it doesn't work when I am auto-moving
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeJean Tech: It opens the door but doesn't go through.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: check your mapper thisroom, it will show that your cexit is only "open door" not "open door;direction"
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: Do you use ;; or ; in cexit? open north;;north ?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeJean Tech: Oh, I only used one. Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeJean Tech: I'll be using two from now on.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: either use two, or start whole line with ;
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeJean Tech: It will work if I start the whole line with the stacking character?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: yes that is the other option ie ;cexit open n;n
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yeah, "
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yeah, ";mapper cexit open dir;dir" is same as "mapper cexit open dir;;dir"
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeJean Tech: Oh, well that's easier.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeJean Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: Is anyone else still having problems with the new mushclient and what I'm suspecting is the keep evaluating flag?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Depends on what your problems are.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't have any issues currently.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: things like the end of double notification not appearing in my client since I upgraded
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: They appear for me. Check that you're echoing the information. I think with the update on channels, and the way INFO works now, a few things were disabled that have to be set back to enabled.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: Turns out I needed to right click the comm log, echo channels in main window, echo other info, and explicitly turn on echoing INFO:
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Pretty much what I said. :p
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: I thought you were talking about the mud-side channel settings
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, no.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: didn't realize you were talking about the comm log
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'll be more elaborate next time. :P
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or rather, I'll elaborate more next time.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Long day.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: you can be elaborate.  I'll let you.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What's sad is I was trying to figure out what I was trying to say, and I thought to myself, "I'll be more elegant next time." and realized that wasn't the right answer. :p
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Mind fuzzed with writing code.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: i managed to screw up mushclient and i'm not sure how... i am seeing things like {rdesc}
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: have you tried resetaard?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: is it something i turned on on the mud or a client error?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: I think that is the command.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: that just messed up my layout
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: you can move things back. But maybe it fixed your error.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: Ronad what you are seeing are tags. i think help tags might be what you need to read
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: nope... i just turned tags off and i'm still seeing those
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: plus room descs aren't showing
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: save, close, restart your mush
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: also seeing <MAPEND>
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: first thing i did
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: mine does that from time to time
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: hrm, works for me, sorry
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: i found the problem... i think... my minimap miniwindow had crashed or something
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: could anyone please tell me how i can ractivate the miniwin_moonbot the gui disipeared not sure how to get it to move?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: or just active for that matter.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: do you have the minwin manager?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: moonbot_reset might do it
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: sorry, 'mreset'
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: nope.. no luck
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: ah ha - you have to type 'mb' first. so 'mb mreset'
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: is there a way to send test data to basts xbroadcast_quest so I can test a different plugin?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: aah thanks that seems to do the trick
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: is the Bast eq plugin known broken when hovering over items?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: people have questions about mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: only if you can answer for Bast :)
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: almost done fixing your color issue btw
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sorry it's taking so long
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: ohh, good deal. Glad it was a real issue and not me being silly.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: part of the last update was to not change the settings in the comm log for echoing to main window?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Ixultar: clarify that statement?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is that a question?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: yes, sort of a question.  I'd updated, then updated again after the most recent changes.  Along the way I stopped seeing Info messages.  Right click options on the comm log ended up fixing it.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: confused me for a couple days, though
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the update unset one of your settings?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: sounds ilke it changed the way INFO was being handled maybe
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: not exactly sure what happened, or if the comm log changed to persist different settings, or what
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's possible. I don't remember all the changes exactly, and the recent updates have been delayed for a long time
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's saving now though, yeah?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: yeah, all looks good afaik now
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'll take a look but I don't remember changing the variable storage
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are of course all kinds of not-my-fault ways this could have happened
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: not sure if it was a storage thing, or what exactly.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Using Mushclient-Aardwolf...Does Save World Details include saving aliases/triggers/etc?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Ty <3
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: and variables if a script is set to do that
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and also calls OnPluginSaveState in any plugins that have it
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: yeah that
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Still working on the scripting part, have bought 2 books so far for Lua. 
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: cool
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Pretty much running me through SQL atm
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: is lua your first programming language?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Yes, technically.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I used to use MM2k6
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Which mixed Mudmaster and C/C++
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: But this is way different
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I used to script huge scrips in prompt
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: you're off to a good start then
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: lua is similar to a lot of other things
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: https://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Lua-Programming-Kurt-Jung/dp/0470069171
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: That is the first one I got
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: The other is
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/859037985X/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: there are a few things lua does that might confuse you if you learn another language, like not needing {}
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Nod, still not trying to script anything yet, trying to understand each concept, then eventually, start scripting
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well when you get to the scripting part, I'm often around to answer questions
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Well, I appreciate the your advice, etc, and time of course. Everyone's to that matter.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: So, quick question I typed
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: print {"Hello World"}
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yup
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you'll want () not {}
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I got table: 0x06096b0
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Oh
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: {} makes a table
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: That is right
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Same for SQL
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in Lua there are five types of data
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: number, string, bool, table, and nil
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Nod, lua sounds 95% like SQL so far as I have read
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Or built off it's base or something
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you'll probably find more differences as you go
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: The first book I posted, is pretty much 564 pages of SQL
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Yet, called Beginners Guide to Lua
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: that sounds... excessive
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I paid a lot per book, I also bought two smaller ones
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: About 132$ so far for lua books
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe I should write a book!
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: i suppose i won't tell you about code academy...
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: When I am in the shop at night polishing, shooting the shit, or chilling, I read them.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sausages or bowling balls?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: At home, I mud or clean or spend time with family. My time is mainly late night seems how I rarely sleep
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: 132$ per book? *faint
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Oh heck no Enei
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: where did you buy them? college bookstore?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: 40 bones for one, 39 for another, 20 for another and like 25 for the other
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: some books are just expensive
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Amazon, but the two expensive ones are used in college courses
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: these sound like not small books
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: They are not
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Each is 500+ pages
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: The two big ones, pricey ones.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Family and I went to the beach today, and while they played, I read hahaha
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I am new to coding for the most part, my knowledge/intelligence computer wise is hardware and penetration testing
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: If you like it - it will tighten and will not let go))
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I am on a lot of meds, so I learn slow, and often hit walls on simple subjects/items/etc...
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: But like I said, I appreciate everyone's time who help me when I find myself lost.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: helps
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Is there anyway to isolate which plugin is leaking memory?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Short of cycling them in the installed state and waiting for days for the memory leak to happen?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's pretty unlikely for any plugin to actually leak memory in the traditional sense
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ok, then I wonder what is happening
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but you can try cycling them
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: When I start mushclient it uses <160Mb of memory
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: But after 6 days running it uses over 1.6Gb
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well that is quite something
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I know, which is why I am asking the questions
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: a plugin would sort of have to cooperate to report how much memory it's using
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: If it grows that much you shouldn't have to wait for days to see the leaks
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: A few hours should be good
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I have had mush up for 1 day 5 hours and it up to over 400Mb
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Disable all but one, run for an hour, check memory usage. Disable that one, enable the next one, restart, run for an hour, check memory usage
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what, no
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just disable them one by one
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: some of my plugins will not let you disable them though
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: standart plugins works good
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: reinstall them is better
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: go through the plugin list and just hit reinstall on them
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: why do some companies insist on using silverlight =/
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because it's better than flash
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: it also randomlly stopped working, and i cant get it to work again
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: write a stern letter to bill gates
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: lol i dont think my job would like how long that takes, anyways going to try restarting computer really quick, see if that fixes it
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: well as soon as dinner is done I will do the reinstall check
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: yay still silverlight does not work in firefox or edge ... oh well
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: well, after cycling all of the plugins that are on the list I got it from 400ish to 260ish
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: which is still over 100 more than when the client loads
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which ones made the most impact?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: the one that controlls the communications log
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: the rest were a fairly even split
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: let me see how many lines it holds
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm. let's see...
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's set to store 10000 lines.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: even if a line is 10 kilobytes long, that's still only 100 megabytes
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish laughs out loud at Kobus.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i didnt even type it yet... how are you pre-emptively laughing?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: kobus: https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kobus :/
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: i'm laughing at you on ftalk. they're the same color for me so sometimes I get confused
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: same here
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i was gonna make a comment about 10kb lines of text...
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's a pretty big number for a line of text
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: that would be one hell of a read
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: So, seeing as it was relatively small this time.. I wonder where the issue is. I will try it again when it is over a gig
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: then I will get back to you fiendish
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I definitely want to know
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: are you having mem leak problems with mush?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: for note I am running this under wine on linux
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yes kobus
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not notable for me. I run debian
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: used to run fedora
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I was just informing you in the case that it might be a wine thing.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what version?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: of mush or wine?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: wine
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm on 2.4-staging
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: 1.6.2
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: woaaaah
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: srsly?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: are you using debian stable or something?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: what?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I don't know I just typed sudo apt-get wine when I loaded this os and it worked, lol
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: wow
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 1.6.2 is pretty old
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I didn't really look into it, just saw one that worked
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: honestly I think everyone should use wine staging
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: apt, so debian or ubuntu?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ubuntu on this one
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: try sudo add-apt-repository ppa:wine/wine-builds
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: then apt-get update, apt-get upgrade
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you might need to uninstall your wine and then install wine-staging. not sure how the ubuntu ppa is set up
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hmm will be a little, apparently I hadn't run it since they updated something big
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: better yet, follow this https://github.com/wine-compholio/wine-staging/wiki/Installation#-ubuntulinux-mint
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: what is ndsiwrapper?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it wraps ndsi
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: alternatively, it raps about ndsiw
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: well hopefully this wine-staging thing doesn't break things
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: over 500 Mbs for this thing
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: nvidia display something something wrapper? *shrug
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yeah, I looked it up. Apparently there was a few large nvidia updates I needed
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: fiendish, how do I use this instead of the wine build I have?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess you remove the old one
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: when I went to install winehq it uninstalled it for me
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: wine --version shows 2.4
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ok, mushclient is running on 2.4 (staging) now. So we will see if it still is doing it, also, I will cycle the plugins if it does
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so for a benchmark and because I will forget mushclient loads at 89 Mb initially
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: are you on the latest version of mush/aardmush?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: im a version behind i think
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: no, I am on r1825, so what ever comes with that package
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: We shall see
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Haha, 89 Mb? Mine's currently at 77 Mb with a lot of plugins.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: After the first hour it is still holding at 89, I am starting to feel hopefull
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Nevermind, lol, just after I typed that I alt tabbed back to sys monitor and its at 147
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne comforts Tol.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not on wine, and mine is half that.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I wonder where this is comming from
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Part of the memory usage is going to depend on how big of a scrollback buffer you set (and how full it is)
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: aye, but it shoudl never go up to over 1.6 Gb
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's... wow.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: thats after 6 days open
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: mostly idle I should add
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: heh already up to 151
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: chat logs don't fill up that fast..
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Do you have Bast's plugins installed?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: a few
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Type 'plugins'
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It'll show mem usage for most plugins.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: got an error that crashed the mud
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Weird.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yeah it is, what was it supposed to do?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Shows a list of plugins, most with mem usage on it. Was going to see if you could identify the problem.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: PluginFunctions v2094 phelp Plugins List - Found: 26
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: then a list of plugins and their mem usage and versions
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: interesting, not sure what is dying then
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it gave me the option to save the error
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: it took a considerably long time (maybe 1 full second) to print out
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: looks to be a wine error
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Wow, mine takes not even a second.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's with 60 plugins.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What version of Wine do you has?
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: 2.4, he says.
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: that's a development build of wine
T3/r7/2017-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: its 2.4 staging
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: 10 hrs 180 Mb Thats actually a good sign
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: does anyone know what plugin houses the "plugins" command?
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I don't have plugins command
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: so, s&d, wink's spellup, galaban's partroxis don't do it
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Are you using fiendish's package?
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Whenever I open aardwolf-mushclient, the TIme to Tick: works, if I lose connection, it breaks and sticks to 30 indefinitely. Any quick fix?
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Anyone know? ::(
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: what is the current version of mushclient from fiendish?
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1900 or so
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I used his installer, most current, and installed to my old directory. It updated mush to 5.03 but checkversion still says r1887
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the current one uses 5.06-pre
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I was still using 4.98 before the installer
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hmm, apparently it wasn't the most recent, as he put one out 5 days ago, dled it and installed. seems to be working
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you go to the website for the aardclient, there's a link towards the top that says "get the latest installer"
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that link takes you to 1900
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hmm, I had just gotten that installer the other day, must have been over 5 days ago.
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: well lets see if this one has a terrible memory leak also :p
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Is there a way to stack commands using Mushclient - Aardwolf version. Not as in semi-colon, but like type ^10 c cure crit, so I then cast cure crit, 10 times in a row, instead of spamming it out c cure cri backslash c cure cri backslash, etc?
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endicott Tech: Loops, maybe?
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I wrote such a command, Savocktal.
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's simple, really. Trigger pattern is ^#(\d+) (.*)$ -- which checks for #n command (so #10 c 'cure critical').
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And the script function is this: for i = 1, tonumber("%1") do Execute("%2") end
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: im looking to move from a micro atx -> Eatx mobo, anything i should really look for in the motherboard or should i keep most my money on my GPU/CPU/RAM when i upgrade those
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Anyone successfully using Bast's miniwin_eq plugin?
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: I get nothing but "Got a bad item..." errors trying to do an 'inv' command. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: where can a find a good repository of plugins?
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: finger bast
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: Bast has some good ones, finger bast
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhezabyl Tech: for the aardwolf client, when I write an alias and I want a variable in it, like cast fireball insertbadguynamehere what do you use syntax wise to substitute insertbadguyname here so I can choose who to cast it on?
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: If you're in combat, just 'cast fireball' is fine
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: You don't need to target
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhezabyl Tech: right but what if I want to target someone
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhezabyl Tech: say for a spellup spell I have forgetskilled
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on if you want a variable or an argument...
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for an argument...dospellup * as the alias, and c forgottenspell %1 in the action
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for a variable, c forgottenspell @targetvarname in the action, with expand variables checked
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: So "cFire *" as alias, "c fireball %1" as action, to be clear
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhezabyl Tech: ty
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straelyn Tech: is it a known glitch that all the rooms turn to darkness and you cant move
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: It is not a glitch. You simply cannot see because it is too dark
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: And probably trying to run into a wall
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straelyn Tech: but it happens in random locations that ive ran through without problem, like in an open fieldd
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: brightness of a room changes at night, see help brightness
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straelyn Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone good with integrating with bast's plugins?
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i can teach you patience
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: whats that?
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: start with a handful of sand. when you have counted each grain, come back, send a tell
T3/r7/2017-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: I need to figure out why my double functions are returning a nil value (line 900) https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz44j6H6OJJtRTZxdHVmOS1KNlE
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malikha Tech: Hi was told to try this channel I just have a question about the MushClient thing on the Website. Whenever I close the client and reload it I have to adjust all the windows again
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malikha Tech: is there a way to stop that?
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: I am no expert, but do you get a box that asks you to save the session?
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: where do you run mush from? from program files?
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malikha Tech: yep its pinned to my bar next to cortana. and I dont think i've ever seen a save the session
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: try not to run mush from program files. Unzip or install it to documents or desktop or enywhere that is not program files.
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malikha Tech: Oh the Folder is on my desktop I just meant where I click to load it was pinned
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: ok. When closing do you get a box to save settings, as Caramia asked?
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malikha Tech: I dont think so, give me one minute i'll be right back and find out haha
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: ohh I got something right? smiles
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malikha Tech: tada you two are magic, and now I feel stupid cause I know why it Didn't save last time -.- pc restarted itself while I was away so I didn't get to click anything
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordSkaven Tech: how can make the say channel not appear in my communication window? I already tried deselecting it in the customize channels window. And can you have multiple communication windows at the same time?
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: there is a difference between say ans mobsay. Maybe that's the problem. Also yes you can but there is no simple "click  som menu item" to create it. You have to create it manually
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordSkaven Tech: ok cool thanks
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone good with usuing bast's xbroadcast plugins?  I dont know why i am not getting timer info from xbroadcast_double
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: KoopaTroopa: toggle debug on broadcast_double with "bdbl debug" and see if the plugin is broadcasting correctly
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: also, make sure you are catching the correct plugin, aaafc15678afa22343c5a327
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i have checked that I am catching the correct plugin... i am also sure that the plugin is broadcasting correctly, because the miniwin plugin functions...  i get an error saying that timer.secs is a nil value.
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i will turn on debug though.
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: /IF/ you are interested in looking https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz44j6H6OJJtdlB2OEt6OTdNa2s  - line 900
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i guess 893 now... (i made a few modifications)
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: my guess is you have scoped timer as local in the plugin so the load string isn't updating it in the function
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: assuming the broadcast is working
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: nod... i will check that out
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: found a sick bugtrap in js:) scales_setup.length[i]=0
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhezabyl Tech: does anyone know anything about Mushclient turning off your gquest and global channel notifications?  I've enabled global commuincation capture and global channel is on, but I get no gquest notifications whatsoever?
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: hmmm. I've noticed the same thing
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhezabyl Tech: no one, anyone?
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: try right clicking in the comms log and then select "capture other info"
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Splat Tech: Anyone know why the 'eqdb' Bast plugin won't refresh automatically? ie., if I pick up an item, it won't display in my inventory unless I do an 'eqdb refresh'
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: if the plugin uses invmon, do you have invmon turn on?
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: try that... im not familiar with the plugin but that'd be my guess
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Splat Tech: Thank you sir, I didn't know about invmon. That was indeed it.
T3/r7/2017-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: cool
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeJean Tech: Can someone tell me how to stop the Activity List from auto-starting when I load the Aardwolf Client?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: use telnet
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what is the "activity list"?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeJean Tech: No idea. Some window that comes up in another tab of the client.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeJean Tech: I don't even know what it is for.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what is in that window or tab?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeJean Tech: Stuff that the client does, like 'world loaded.'
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: is it this? https://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/activity.htm
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeJean Tech: Yeah, that's what it is.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: under the "View" menu there is a menuitem "Activity Toolbar", thats the closest i can find to the "Activity List"
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeJean Tech: Hmm. But it's not checked and it still starts automatically. Think it's something in the global settings?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: idk
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeJean Tech: Ah, well. Guess it doesn't really matter. I've lived with it since I started using the client.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Some people who are advsior make me scratch my head though
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Ooops that was bad miss
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: All advisors are great people! :D
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I know nobody is really around here except tech people, we can forget about I said anything!
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: except you keep talking about it!!
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I'm not seeing socials through comm log how do you turn it on? There was option in comm log right?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impuritan tickles Khannon.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Khannon: Socials to comm.log is not an option. Mendaloth, however, wrote a plugin for it.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Oh, right, so his plugin must've stopped working after update
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Works for me.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Rsocial_Capture
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Well, it doesn't send any socials to commlog, I don't get any errors why it doesn't
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Try going to Mendaloth's site and getting the updated one?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Did he update social capture plugin too? When MUSH had recent updates
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: it's been updated yes
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: okay let's see
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: can someone use social on me
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Thanks Almila, it works now
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Checking to see if anyone is interested in a temp portal maker. I have a client side alias for navigator that makes beacon of homecomming into a mapper usable portal for the duration of the beacon. I was also thinking of adding in pet support for dooring to a pet as a speed walkable portal
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: sounds cool
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ok, well I will make it in a few days and post it to my github
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: nice
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: How can i make this file into an .iso file ? Metal Gear Solid (E) (Disc 1) [SLES-01370].bin.ecm
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: have you tried google "convert ecm to iso" ?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Gottcha! tnx
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Woot, my uncapped Internet is just installed :D
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Gonna download stuuf 24/7
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Downloaded ecm tools.rar
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: big bang theory season 1 downloaded
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Splat Tech: I thought we were supposed to hate that show
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: never got the memo
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: Penny still wears cool stuff
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Ultimate geek tv show :P
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: mp4 vids looks sweet
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As a side note, it is against rules to discuss piracy and illegal things on tech (or any channel) :p
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I downloaded via LAN :)
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: The vids are ripped from original Discs
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: But .mkv is still the best for clarity.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Runs win 7 Ultimate and Norton original.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Want to get Avast though.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Splat Tech: norton _is_ a virus
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I find Avast is less invasive
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I prefer Malwarebytes.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: It evens ejects a cd/dvd/bluray if it detects mallware,virus etc. aka Avast
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Never hears of that Arc.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Splat Tech: Aye - malwarebytes and built-in defender are really all you need nowadays
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Surprising, as it's one of top free antivirus software.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: might look into that.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It does have premium features, but free is all you really need.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: convert to linux, then you don't have to worry about it
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Nod, free is good.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Splat Tech: free version mostly means you'll need to to occassional scan manually
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not even remotely true, Tol.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: erm, linux do get viruses
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I love fanboys that say things like "Mac get no viruses!" or "Linux doesn't get viruses!" :p
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle sniggers quietly to himself, reflecting over an amusing thought.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I had a friend that told me that once. So I proved him wrong. :P
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Send him a virus / :D
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: at least they say "pc virii" now 
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: but ya, if you are dumb, doesn't matter which OS really
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Used to be you had to be dumb to get one, and antiviruses weren't really needed. But nowadays, even if you're fully legit, you can still get them.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I love windows allot, I can keep my PC on foe weeks, with no errors OS side, not even memory leaks
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: with the IOT now, not helping things
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: You only really need a decent firewall up all the time
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Comodo is awesome with firewall.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Aye
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I use Vipre
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Savocktal, did you ever see my answer about multiple sends?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I track all my data in/out on an hourly basis, abit OCD, but nothing will go unnotice
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: tech I don't think so, Acid.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I used to run an Obsd tf firewall, but hardware died heh
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm not a drug. :p
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Oopps
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Arcid :P
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Anyway, I have an alias that does what you want. :p
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Acid beats mushrooms ;)
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Does it require scripting to repeat commands like I want? 
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I figured there was a command >.<
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: In Mm2k6, it was just /(number) (command)
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There's no command for it, no. But my alias is simple. I type #10 c 'cure critical', and it does just that.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And you can change the initiating character to whatever works for you.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Be it ^ or / or whatever.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: How do I get it?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: http://pastebin.com/HG0qZGtH -- just copy that, then go to Alias, and click 'paste'
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Do any person got a link to the rainbow color text script? Will even throw a few mill at you.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You mean the one I wrote? :p
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or even the gradient script? :p
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle looks at Arcidayne and chants, "H! E! R! O!... Arcidayne is my Hero!!!"
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Gradient is awesome. :p
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Yes pls SIr :D
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, I guess it depends on which rainbow script you're talking about.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: nice Arcidayne thanks
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I know that I wrote /one/ of many variations out there.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: That is one fine looking script, if i ever saw one...
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Bytor.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I got bored and wanted a fading script. It wasn't without help, though.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle drools all over himself -- making a TERRIBLE mess!
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: The one with the multi colors
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: I've written a couple, but I'm never happy with the color combinations.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or this one... hmm.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's my rainbow one.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: i like a one thats tottaly random
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i have one too!
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: 8ooo redr
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Anyone who wants rainbow and gradient scripts: http://pastebin.com/PEuV41qL :p
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Only works on certain channels, by the way.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Wow, thanks man!
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Splat Tech: Put on your github, silly
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: wass looking 4 it for like a year
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Eh, I will, soon enough. :p
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I love how you went from '4' to 'for' in two words...
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: 4 is more l33+
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle types stuff with the fastest effiency
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I type upwards to 100 wpm. :P
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'd be... screwed if I typed l33t speak.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: >.<
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: People at work hate my speed soemtimes because all they hear is clack clack clack... :p
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: hehe do you have one of the cool tapping keyboards too?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I have the old-style dell ones.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: these new quieter ones are less annoying, so no fun
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I want a mechanical one, though.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Bytor.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Splat Tech: Thanks Arcidayne
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ya, that doesn't look half bad
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The half that doesn't look bad is my name. ;)
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: well there you go
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: that's strange. it looks different in the comm window compared to the output window
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: How so, LIber?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Looks the same to me.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: Splat Tech: Thanks Arcidayne
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: that was on the output window
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Check to make sure your ansi colors aren't corrupted?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Games like this that needs fast typing skills, you either need to be a gutairist irl or a pianost or very PC litterist to type fast. I only type the unconvential way with a few straggling fingers bashing at keys, it works most of the time if dont trip over my sausage fingers
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm also a guitarist... :p
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But I've been using computers since I was 3.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Heh :P
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Splat Tech: It was mudding that taught me to type correctly way back when
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Splat Tech: I forced myself to play without hunt & peck. You learn quick that way.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: what do you mean corrupted? this was on the comm log window: [25 Mar 16:41:53] Splat Tech: Thanks Arcidayne
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's a good skill to have.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: My top speed was 129 wpm.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Pissed my instructor off.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne smiles happily.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: you get wpm software for newbies if im right
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But depending on the topic, I'll type about 90-100 wpm.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Do you use a stock kewboard Arc?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: One job required us to type at least 92 wpm with less than 2% errors. Another job timed me because I was doing medical transcribing.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Cackle.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: 8ok
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i baffled my english teacher because all the violent words i knew. she thought i was a psycho
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: from mud
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: For a while, I was proficient on Dvorak, too. :p
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: never could get the hang of dvorak
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I had to switch back when work refused to let me change the layout.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: For gaming, i see a normal low raise Soft key keyboard is OK, but a gaming mouse is essential
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Cackle.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I just use controllers for gaming, usually.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I mud without a mouse. You and I have a very different meaning for gaming :)
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: nice Arc, thats what i wanna buy next month, a ps4 like controller for PC
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I use Xbox 360 controller. :p
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Splat Tech: Is there a way to have the mapper automatially send cexits when moving manually? Ie., if I'm in a room that has a door to the west that I've already set up, typing 'w' would automatically do the full cexit string?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Liber are you a linux fan?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not inherently.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Most Linux people dont like mouse
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Splat Tech: But.. but... my laziness!
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: that's only for mapper goto right?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle snickers with Arcidayne about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Would have to create a table similar to the cexits, and tell the MUD that when you're in a specific room, going "x" direction will send the cexit.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: What is this 'mouse'?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I blame xerox
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's one functionality of CMUD I loved.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Splat Tech: well bummer, but thanks
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: > e > enter pool
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Splat Tech: indeed, that's what I was thinking of
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Heh, that controllers are dirt cheap, even have dual shock vibrating and analog keys, im refering to the one i want to get, ps4 look a likes
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I'm on windows. I did use a lot of *nixes though. And I do use a mouse in Linux :) but yeah, for me gaming = mud, and pretty much it
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: set up a plugin to check your gmcp exits for every room, and alias your dirs as mapper goto that dir
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's what I just said. :p
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But it's a huge hassle, too.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Splat Tech: Yeah, sounds more tedious than I currently care to do
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: that sounds rather complex. there's no easy way to figure out if a custom exit is east
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Splat Tech: And I figure if it was easy or that desired, it would already exist. So I'm just being overly lazy.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: for example, in terramire. there is a locked door, and a custom exit to go through that door, but the custom exit doesn't include the direction
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Splat Tech: This would just be for 'simple' directional exits Liber. Door handling, basically.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Anyway, back to previous activities!
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne waves happily.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I right clicked on your pastebin Arc, and downlowded it. It shows as [XML] _aliases_ _alias match=_^grad (t (_w+)_ft_reply_gt_ct_tech) (._)$_ en - Pastebin.com. yes i cant load it in  mush
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Splat Tech: Copy the raw text to your clipboard
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Splat Tech: Then do File->Import from mushclient, and click the 'Clipboard' button
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: thanks allot
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Splat Tech: then type: grad tech message to see the rainbow
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: im using Opera mini Browser Splat, i high lghted all raw data within Opera and clicked copy, once im in mush it doesnt regocnize it from clipboard
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: try putting in notepad++ first
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: see if it looks funny
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: OK
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: remove funny
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: OK, I pasted it in notepad==, what now
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: look for special characters etc
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: can you paste the pastebin, not sure which you are looking at
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Splat Tech: So long as you copied the raw text, it _should_ be okay
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ya, true
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I mean should i save it as a file or what
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: but notepad++ is the only one I know of that can show you the hidden chars etc
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: shouldn't have to
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: plain text should copy fine, just make sure you get all of it
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Splat Tech: You should be able to copy the text to the clipboard from withing notepad++ now
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: that too screws up import
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I mean should i save it as a file or whattech nodnod
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Im having fun, doing random stuff while drinking some wine, so sue me.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Abe are you still around?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: haha
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Abe is always watching
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Is there something extra that you need to do to run a VB plugin in mush?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Set the language to VB, I think.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: The issue I have been having with the command plugins seems to be stemming from the fact that the plugin is in VB
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not 100%, but I think that you can only utilize one language in plugins, can't cross them.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hmm even with that plugin disabled it crashes when I type the command plugins
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's possible the plugins command utilizes Windows components that aren't accessible by WINE, too.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Only other thing I can think of.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: is there a plugin that makes mobs or objects clickable
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: None that I know of
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for objects, bast's eqdb
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Depends what exactly you want it to do....
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for MOBs, the difficulty is that there is not a reliable way to determine a MOB's keyword
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: What's a good example for when to use a stack? (computer science)
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are plugins which capture the "roomchars" or "con all" info into a separate window, and one or two even try to make that clickable to attack
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Old MUD I used to play would have the standard keywords for mobs, but would also include "mob" as a keyword. :P
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that'll never happen here :P
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: tbh I am being lazy, just wanted to click to attack
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: I can type k t
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't think it should be used here, by any means. Would make it too easy to bot.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bamboo: a stack is just an ordered list
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: Sounds great for botting.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: what fun is that
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Syght shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so for example, a spellup plugin is implemented using a stack
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: don't care if it can be used for botting since I won't be
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Isn't that a queue
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Doesn't matter that you won't be. Someone else would be.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: Arcidaynes mob keyword comment.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: ok so this char is an alt -don't have the portals and so on that my main does
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: what do I need to do so htat my speedwalks (from snd) don't try to use portals I don't have
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper walk
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or don't share a mapper
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: yeah let's talk about not sharing a mapper
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or work to restore parity between the chars ;-)
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Just delete the portals
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: how do I go about that?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you delete the portals, then your main wouldn't use them either
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emeris rapidly nods twice at MeadowMare Kya, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: right
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Mapper purge portals
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: use rt. help runprefix
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so that would be a bad thing
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, don't use rt
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: so let's talk about not sharing the mapper
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper has a "don't use portals" command
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: that way you keep the portals mapped, for when you'll get them
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: create a new word for each character. That way you dont share mapper
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are 2 ways to not share a mapper
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: new world
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: either make a world not named aardwolf, or just keep 2 MUSHclient folders
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I choose the latter
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: ok so new world for syght
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: I keep 2 folders
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: what's the benefit of two folders as opposed to a new world?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: nice to keep all you've explored
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Got one for me enchanter, and one for me
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or just use "mapper walkto" instead of "mapper goto" and keep sharing mappers
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Well if you mess up one, you don't mess up the other...
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: magna that helps w my immediate need for running around aaylor but still is problematic for other sw
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Syght nods at Emeris.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: purging and remapping portals is quite easy keep in a doc
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why is it problematic for other sws?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Whenever an update comes I copy over my Aardwolf.db and my Aardwolf.mcl to the new one incase it gives me grief I still have my old backup copy
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: your "quite easy' sounds a lot like my "tedious and frustrating"
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: just one liners
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: easier than reexploring 90% of a room 
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: mag well I *do* have portals w this char just idk which etc
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you'd have to do that every time you log in the other guy
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: yup
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so for those portals, use mapper goto :-)
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Just purge all your portals, and add the ones you get, when you get them
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: true
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: then my main won't have them
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: magna I don't know which they
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: magna I don't know which they are
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: wiki has list
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: and I keep and aardbag for all portals
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: jfc
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wiki doesn't have the list of which portals syght has
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: ok two worlds thanks
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ya, that's true
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: which is why I keep mine being put into a specific bag 
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: WOOOOOOSH
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could go all super-hi-tech and make aliases to go to the areas, and have those aliases use mapper goto or mapper walkto based on which char you're on :-)
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: good god
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: how can i succssfully convert .bin.ecm to iso ?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ya, true
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: rar thingy didn't work?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: did you try unecm?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: oh unecm, i will try that, was not getting results from google yet
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: ty
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: dropped a galaxy s6, there is purple in the upper left corner and it is slowly spreading
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: no visible crack though
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Maybe it's an app!
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: any ideas on how to prevent the purple from spreading?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I had the exact same problem, is the screen still reponsive everywhere
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Has it got a bit of black in it?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alias "goknossos", have the action be require "gmcphelper" if gmcp("char.base.name") == "Syght" then Send ("mapper walkto 28193") else Send ("mapper goto 28193") end
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: nice!
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and send to script
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo enlightens you to the subtle *beep* differences between a bot and a *beep* script.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: If yes, then I've seen the same thing in a laptop screen before.....
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ocho: try squeezing it in various places (or google where the screen ribbon cable is)
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it might have jostled loose and the ribbon is lifting out
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: I know  some screens do have a 'purple fluiid' that slowly spreads outwards, if the screen itself took damage...
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: ok got the new world saved and all that but when I open the saved world and check the world properties, it's still got the old name -is that a problem?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes, new name==new mapper db
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: so do I need to make a new mapper db or what?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Wouldn't it be easy just to copy your mush and purge all portals in the copy?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think you need to give the new world a new name. But I must admit I only followed about 20 % of the conversation
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in MUSHclient, go to file -> global prefs, world tab, and remove the entry there.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then quit out of MUSHclient, copy the aardwolf.db file to somethingelse.db, and copy the worlds\aardwolf.mcl file to thatsamesomethingelse.mcl
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then whenever you launch MUSHclient, go to file -> open world
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IMO the alias script thing is the best answer though :-)
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: You bugger.....I didn't even realize that I was talking to an alt of my flist XD
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: But he settled for copying mush and using mapper purge portals
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: yo while we're at it can someone help me with bounceportal and bouncerecall? I never got those to work
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Well the portal to homecomming beacon and pets script is up
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: eh I'd rather talk about those two
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, so first you create a mapper portal which uses some sort of home/recall ability...
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you use mapper portals ot see that portal's ID number
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you use mapper portalrecall 3 (or it's ID) to mark it in the system as being eligible
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now it should show up in red when you use mapper portals
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then do mapper bouncerecall 3 (or that same one's ID) to mark it is "the one to use" when using a recall command is the quickest way out
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and do mapper bounceportal 1 (academy, amulet of aard or garbage can are good choices for this one) for when using a portal is the quickest way out of somewhere
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BTW, I highly recommend reading both http://abelinc.me/mapper and http://abelinc.me/hosch for doing mapper stuff :-)
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: in tintin++ I know you can #macro {\e...} {...} to map numpad keys but is it possible to #macro on ctrl+numpad keys?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: ok sorry that took a little longer than it should have
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm sure you can (tinyfugue has that, anyway), but you might need to use a keypress watcher to see what your terminal "sees" when you press them
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and of course note whether numlock is on/off
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: what does this mean? BOUNCEPORTAL FAILED: Portal #2 is a recall portal. You must choose a mapper portal that does not use either the recall or home commands for the bounce portal.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: nvm got it sorted
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I hope Protonmail gets a desktop client so I don't have to keep going back to the web interface.
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: anyone familiar with masaki equalizer? 
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: a little
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: It seems that when I get to a new EQ set level as a T2 (51, 81, etc..) that it just removes all my eq and puts it in a bag, but does nothing to equip the next set
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: so it leaves me with almost nothing on
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: I try meq selectset and can choose the set but nothing happens
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hrm, you sure you saved the sets correctly?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: I try meq wear 101 or meq wear Level101 and get error messages
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: I thought so. I equip my set, select my bag, set a name and then click save
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thats odd, ive never had this kind of issue
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i had that issue too, and i couldnt get it worked out... so i tossed meq
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: I like exploring new ground! lol
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: not even any mud errors like failing to get items from a bag?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: what do you use now Koopa?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: umm... lots of bags
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: here's one error {-=No equipment switched, maybe the same set was used=-}   
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: just a bag for each set?
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: nod
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peaceful Wars Tech: can always just set up large aliases *shrug*
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: absolutely. It's definitely not the end of the world, but having that ability to equip/store a set all at once is nice
T3/r7/2017-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: when I try to switch sets, it seems that it will take everything off and store it, but will not pull the new eq out of a bag. seems to rely simply on wear all
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm, what are the typical programming syntax for newlines?
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: trying to figure out if i can add newlines for some mud descriptions
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LuaLife Tech: Any idea why the page prompt does not end with a carriage return?
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Anyway to map a portal via command? IE without it popping up the portal level dialogue?
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: under mapper help look for mapper fullportal
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Specific to a mapper version? My client version is fairly old
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: It's a good time to update Glad
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Oh, the print in portal actions....thanks
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well if I use that within a alias.....anyway to call mapper thisroom via script?
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: alias it and send it to execute
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: google aardwolf gmcp
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: you can pull the room id out of that
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: So even when you use gmcphelper/gmcphandler, you need to do those lines to populate the table or is that automaitc?
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: whats the GetInfo number to get current plugin name?
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: ctrl+f "plugin name" on the docs doesn't show anything, was wondering if it had a less obvious name
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: or do I need a different function
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mean GetPluginInfo()?
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: right, thanks
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GetInfo is just about the world itself
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: does anyone know where I might be able to find a tutorial on how to make gmcp work that assumes I'm a complete ignoramous, considering I -still- can't seem to make it work?
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: aardwolf website
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: what client are you using?
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: merelii: http://abelinc.me/gmcp
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: mudlet
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're using MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're using Mudlet, then you'd need to be taught by someone who uses Mudlet
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: it's pretty easy in mudlet
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: mudlet eh.. change to mushclient and you dont even have to worry about things you are right now
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: try, you wont go back to mudlet 
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: yeah, but then I'd have to run wine, and i can guarantee my laptop won't put up with that, lol.
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: wine and mushclient? heh.. just go for it
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: there is lots of people running mush with wine :P
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: they probably have computers that can handle having more than three internet tabs open at the same time tho.
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: so getting the error, http://pastebin.com/mx284JC3 there is the pastebin, getting error 
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: Trigger function "process_prompt" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: that's bast's plugins?
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: the function is trying to use a nil value
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: how do I reset it?
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: reload the plugin
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: no that is by nick gammon
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhazien Tech: I removed it, going to leave and be right back
T3/r7/2017-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: anyone else notice that the newer mappers from fiendish are considerably slower to search?
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: is there a key that stops mush from sending commands to the mud? For instance, if I send 3 aoe spells, but realize that I need to quaff a heal, can I prevent the last two from being sent?
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: no, but disconnecting clears the buffer but that's probably a bad idea in combat
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: yeah that's not a solution really. I've seen it on other clients, sending three periods would cancel
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the commands are sent immediately and kept in the MUD's queue, not client-side, so there's nothing that a client could do outside what Shindo mentioned...although it's not bad to do in combat...each round is 3 seconds, definitely quick enough to reconnect and quaff...hut shift-ctrl-k, then type anything and it'll ask if you want to reconnect
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hit*
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You could build your own queue system, though, and give yourself the ability to throw in a command ahead of others.
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: wouldn't i be basically lagging myself then, arc?
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could, although it would make nearly everything that you do in the game slower
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: queue 5 'cast desolation' -- 'Whoops, I need to heal!' -- pushqueue 'cast heal'
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, you would, since you wouldn't bother sending the next command until you see a response from the game that the current command has gone through
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Depends, Magna. You can set timers on the actions themselves.
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that doesn't change the outcome
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: nods, just thought i would ask. I've seen it done on another client, it's pretty handy. I'll just have to be careful not to type too far ahead
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So DoAfter(3, next_item_in_queue)
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and in that case, you've got to build a table of the delays for every command you'd possibly be sending to the MUD
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Why would you? Stick to round times.
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so make sure that you cannot type inventory more than once every 3 seconds, or heal more than once per round?
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you're queuing up several inventory commands...
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: round numbers are great, but they make the problem much worse, because you have to use the worst case as baseline, since it's combat abilities that prompt the creation of the system itself
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i have a rudimentary stack queueing system that just deals with combat stuff
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Redryn.
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: get portal bag ; wear portal ; enter ; wear dualweapon ; put portal case...3 secs between each of them...
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: when 90% of the stuff you need to have a queue for is combat spells, it's not hard at all to track
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: We're talking combat, not every command.
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and i keep stuff like healing and cures and pots out of the stack, because i almost always want those to have priority
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You're in combat, you type 'queue 5 c desolation', it stacks 5 'c desolation' into a table, and calls each one at 3 second intervals. If you realize you need to heal, pushqueue hp, and it puts it as the next item in the table.
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or you just quaff hp, because you don't need it to be queued
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: at all
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Redryn.
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That, too.
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Since you're calling from a table, any command you type on the command line will supersede the table command.
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you just need to have it call the next one when it detects your last queued command actually executed
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: some simple aliases to clear/reset it, and you're done
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what arcidayne was disagreeing with
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Easily done by having it call a function every 3 seconds.
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i wouldn't do it every 3 secs, because then your stack delay builds up
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I was?
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, you were
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No, I wasn't...
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: abe says you were so you must have been
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers with Redryn about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, you were...read what you wrote...
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The only difference between what Redryn said and what I said is using timers...
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well the main point is that you don't need to track every command and every mud response
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, that's *exactly* what I just finished saying you were disagreeing with...
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so thank you for finally admtting that I correctly assessed your statement :P
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No, you correctly assessed nothing.
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not once did I say "you can't do it based off executing commands"
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, I did, and you're still being silly :P
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grimvald sighs.
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nor did I say that you said that...
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you misconstrued magna's suggestion
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No, you're being ignorant because you can't stand being wrong.
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: arcidayne's suggestion*
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: he never suggested that every command goes into the stack
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so your point about inv delayed 3 secs etc, is all moot
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: charn...throwing around ignorant while totally not paying attention to what I was talking about in the least...nice
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: arcid's suggestion is just a system that lets you dump in commands which will self execute every X seconds... i don't think that's particularly optimal but it's easy and will largely work
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That was the whole point of 'queue <command>'... you place them into a table and they each get executed, one by one. Now if you want to queue inventory, and do 3 of them at 3 second intervals, then you can, but it's ridiculous.
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you wanted to be fancier you could have it push commands + delay i suppose
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm still trying to figure out what I was disagreeing with, supposedly.
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Redryn.
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so pushimmediate, push3sec and push1.5
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that's about 99% of mud commands
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Maybe not ignorance, and just a lack of understanding, though Redryn understood what I was saying. *shrug*
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it won't work with timeshifting, and it's going to be weird if you overstacked spells after mob dies
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Redryn.
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only thing that I said that you were disagreeing with was the implementation of reading MUD output to know when to proc the next command...I brought up that implementation, you countered...not that you ever claimed it was impossible
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But overstacking is where clearing comes in with clear/reset, like you suggested.
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I simply said, "Depends, because you can set timers." Not "You're wrong, you can set timers."
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think we both disagree with: "Magna Tech: you could, although it would make nearly everything that you do in the game slower" and "Magna Tech: and in that case, you've got to build a table of the delays for every command you'd possibly be sending to the MUD"
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimvald Tech: tech off
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Redryn.
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I love when people say they're turning off a channel, as if it makes much difference. :p
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at that time, I was describing a complete command queue implementation
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rather than a limited one
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, short of it is, you can create a queueing system, whether you want to have it look for the command being fired or have it based off timers. If someone is worried that they'll need to pop off a heal within a stack, either solution works.
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as the OP's description of sending 3 periods to clear queue did not limit itself to combat
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the combat-only queue would just change my statement from "you could, although it would make nearly everything that you do in the game slower" to "you could, although it would make nearly everything that you do in the combat queue slower" (questionable whether it matters, depending on Internet reliability)
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and if you use the timer-based approach, going navigator would make it more complex, as the timers would need to be tweakable for timeshifting on/off and for higher/lower int with it on
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: not to mention random :)
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: What's wrong with sending an echo with every command?
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing, but it's extra back-and-forth...
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: it's the only way to deal with timeshifting it seems
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: echo is one way, the other was simply knowing what output to expect from the command(s)
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Morn sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: what if I get stunned mid-combat
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: for some of us that would add 400-500ms of lag to each command during combat
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: I suppose the stun message could also trigger an unqueue
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those are other considerations, definitely...it's one of those things which is easy to sketch out, but as you get through all the use cases, you've either got a "good enough for most", or you've got a whole-hog bot
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: nod, I've held off on creating one for now because dc/rc works for clearing my mudside command queue and thats all I really need
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're just making a stack of 5 desolations to be fired off every 3 seconds, and you vorpal the guy on the first, do you expect/want that stack to be in place alreday when you attack the next guy (or "cast desolation on whom?")
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: botting is hard man
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel giggles at Morn's actions.
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: aint got time to write all these scripts, could be leveling!
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yeah, shindo, that's why I mentioned that using the queue will add extra latency...for combat being 3 second rounds, it usually won't have any genuine downside, but certainly on bad connections it can have impact (I've known players who keep healing potions in inventory rather than bags because they swear "they've died/lost GQs/etc because of the time it takes to get out of bag")
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: on a perfect connection you would lose 1 round every 24 rounds
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, you wouldn't actually lose it because it wouldn't "add up"
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not cumulative, you'd just always be a pulse or two behind
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: how? spell cast lags me for 24 cycles, echo lags me for another one, so my round actually lasts 25 cycles
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: or is my understanding of lag flawed here
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've got around a 2.9 second window to type your next spell
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as long as you've got it queued (MUD-side) by the time the spinner needle gets to point back to you, it'll be processed the same whether you stacked or whether you waited another second or two
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: so the echo doesn't add a cycle of lag every time?
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it adds a cycle of lag every time, but it's not cumulative
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: combat is mostly turn-based in that regard...use the melee as the demarc for your turn and the other guy's turn
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: within each turn, you can generally cast one attack
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: help detail-timeshifting says that every action has a fixed number that's added to your total timeout
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: which would imply that it is cumulative
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: (that helpfile is where my entire understanding of the lag system comes from)
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that's talking about lag, and not actually about the combat system...it's really only valid when discussing stacked commands and when those would be processed, rather than processing echo-based trigger
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maybe I'll write up a script to do some testing on that this week with some large-enough-to-measure numbers
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kramercosmo Tech: is there a way to delete cexits manually? i keep getting this error Alias function "map_cexits_delete" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quit and relaunch MUSHclient, or reload the mapper plugin
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you get one of those errors, the script function is disabled until a reload
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you would normally right-click the "from" room, and there's an option to select an exit to delete
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kramercosmo Tech: thanks :D
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PsyDen Tech: how do i fix my buttons on the android apk theyre non responsive
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: weird... almost none of the startup plugins didn't load for no reason at all
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: what so almost all of them loaded?
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: layout/custom plugins, some fiendish aardclient plugins, didn't load, I'm not entirely sure how many more are not being loaded on startup, I didn't do anything between last night and now, PC was shut off
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: that is very weird
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: any error messages
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: No, it just said on first startup, failed to load bunch of plugins, I closed the window to try it again, then it just didn't load any of them anymore, whatever just wasted time to dig what plugins I had loaded, mostly I'm curious which aardmush ones should be loaded I think most of them at least for visual purpose are loaded now
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok just weird that is randomly failed
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I'm still getting document failed to load message when shitting down pc
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: err *save not load
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: O'boy once all the minor issues are fixed for this update, I'm seriously never updating MUSH :P
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: sounds like your state file got fragged somehow
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I am running mush 1802, are the newer versions worh updating to
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I blindly updated to 1898, the update before that was quite smooth. 1898 ruined me, if you read update log, if any of the updates have changes that your looking then you should update if not don't really
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok cool
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: How do you even see the build #?
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: checkversion
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: checkversion
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: r1790, lol
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I had perfectly working 1870, I really don't know why I bothered to update lol
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Haven't had issues with the new update myself. Perhaps your scripting is what is wrong.
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Just about 80% of all plugins, including aardmush fiendish package plugings didn't load on startup for no reason, out of blue
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I manusally saved world details before quitting last night
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: is there way to load last saved/snapshot plugins or something? saved state that includes plugins
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: is there a mapper command to list all roomids in an area?
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Hmm, I can't see my mapper notes in room now
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: strange, I can see mine
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: if there's way to load somekind of saved state that would ideally load startup plugins from yesterday it would be great, what a mess, AFK aard day :p
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: is is called "backup" :P
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: Isnt there setting you can do in Much to make the icon flash while it minimized if something happens? Like a tell or something? (How Skype and such works)
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: FlashIcon()
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: How do you set it up for tells?
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: trigger on the tell message, send to script, FlashIcon() in the send box
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: Ahh cool ok thanks, ill mes with it
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: if you figure it out let me know, that sounds like a cool idea
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: is there a particular reason why the text on a lable for a container in mudlet wouldn't be affected by the font setting in the stylesheet? 
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: for MUSHclient, is there any way to highlight different color for different chat channel under the "Communication Log"?
T3/r7/2017-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: anyone have a good sound trigger for dbl. Trying to figure out what to trigger on to get most of them.
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: so, I took the tabbed chat walkthrough on the geyser manual, but for some reason i'm having trouble getting it to put anything in the window at all, including the example of 'menu.Tab1center:echo(mygold)' that it uses in the walkthrough. Would anyone have any idea what it is i should be doing, or know somewhere were I can find the info? I've looked all over but I can't find anything that actually makes sense or looks anything like what I have...
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: hmm, having issue with inventory_serial plugin, when adding it and then trying to check inventory it's giving errors lines
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Got a bad item, rerequesting inventory data for Inventory
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I didn't remove plugin myself, it didn't startup yesterday, and it's usually loaded per default...
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: maybe you should roll back mush versions
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yep, trying to fit in schedule to revamp fully 1870 later on week
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eyolf Tech: i'm a vi player my reader  is reading everything else by says and channels is thre a comamnd for this? the channels i want are on
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LeafGuider Waker Tech: my com logg window is cut off in different resolutions, how do I reset to window postions in a mush client
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: The only one that changed it was the one I expected which was the minwin for the chat, and only by 50Mb
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so its either something in wine or mush
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: -n
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: to what is in relation to?
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: if I have mush open for more than a few days I get over a Gig of memory usage
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: that is weird. Memory leaks maybe?
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: indeed, that is why I was reinstalling all of my plugins one by one, to check if it was in them
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I was just idly chronicaling it on Tech so that Abe's chat collecter will get it and store my findings so I can check back later, also if fiendish logs in and does tech-h
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: and none did except for one and only by 50mb? That is very weird indeed
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yeah, it is
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: is it a new issue? like after you updated your client
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: no, it appears to be exatctly the same as the last version I used of both mush and wine
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I attempted to correct it by gtting the latest wine and mush
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: On windows 8, my mush only uses 80 mb. And I have been running for 13 hours. It is probably in the interaction between the two. 
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it uses more than that after 5 mins of being open
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: then something has to be very very wrong
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: mine has been open 6 days and only using 72/73
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: maybe the garbage collection is borked somehow, or pointers are not being disposed
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am trying to figure out what is wrong so I can not have it eating so much memory
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol in 10 mins from restarting the program I am up to 127Mb
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ouch
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: mushclient lua scripting question - how would i prevent an action from being repeated within a certain amount of time?
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: get the os time  then check if ostime+interval has happend
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make an alias for it, have that alias mark down the time in a variable & do a check like tol mentions
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: another way to do it, is to set a variable, and set a timer that expires the variable
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Magna, I was doing the timer thing for a while but it seems to be more overhead
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: yeah, timer was obvious, but crude
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: how do i use ostime? is it a function call? does it return a number or string?
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: google mushclient os time
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: or lua os time
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tol: for your memory issue (I haven't read it all yet), try typing "plugins" if you have any of Bast's stuff
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: iirc its just os.time() but I might be wrong
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: magna that gives me a wine error if I type that
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you take a look at my autoquaffer plugin, it has an example of doing what you need ronad
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: also, I went through and reinstalled one by one already it wasn't the plugings
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: plugins*
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: When 'plugins' is typed it completely crashes me with an error straight from wine
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: no idea what the error means though, as its a large file with a ton of info in it
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is this on Mac or linux?
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: linux
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ubuntu 16.04
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, at least it's an LTS :-)
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What version of Wine?
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: 2.4 (staging)
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: fiendish recommended I try updating to that first and see if it fixed it
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Did I break Magna?
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I would not be surpised
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd maybe try 1.8.7 as the latest non-development release, and maybe run wine under valgrind: https://wiki.winehq.org/Wine_and_Valgrind
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I mentioned Fiendish and he just broke :(
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: almost :-)
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, well once Fiendish is on the case, there's honestly not much I can bring to the table
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tol (
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: He didn't seem terribly interested
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, solution: quit at least daily?
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: lol my mush just crashed after I right clicked your link to visit it
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria, links breaking MUSH, total anarchy!
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I leave it up on my computer at home, of which I am almost never there so I just use a chromebook to remote into it
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I really like just leaving it open, hehe
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, it wasn't unusual for me to have a single tinyfugue session for a month when I wasn't bothering with the alts
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so you can see why this is a bit of an issue for me
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am going to attempt valgrind and see what I can turn up
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, did it ever not do this?
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I thought 2.0 was the latest non-dev release
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, you're right...I had been looking on the "news" page, and every entry for a 2.x said development...except 2.0 itself
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I don't know Magna I only noticed it the other week when it was over 1.6Gb
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oddly-enough, ubuntu 16.04 only has wine 1.6 in the main apt repos
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yeah, thats what I had before Fiend told me to try 2.4
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's because it's a LTS release
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: 1.6
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: oh and valgrind failed to load needed some glib debug stuff
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: anyone else lagging?
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: nah and I usually do!
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: its saying libc6-dbg but when I try to install it apt says I have it already
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: okay gonna probably reboot everything I think my matlab might have sprung a memory leak
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Tol, are you compiling something? You might need libc6-dbg-dev if you need the headers.
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ah it needed the i386 version of libc6-dbg
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: well got valgrind to kind of run, hehe it errored out while running though so I don't know
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: well need to get the kid down so I will look at it afterward
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: So, after breaking my entire client and crashing my computer
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I have found (after having to rewrite parts of my .mcl file) that it must have been one of the plugins
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you fixed it?
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I have been logged in this time for 22 mins and its only at 71 Mb
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I wish I could narrow it down to which had the leak
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: still working on that part
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it appears to be basts spellup plugin
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: anyone else have the gmcp mapper minwin blacking out?
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it shows the room name then part of the next line, then black for the rest of the window
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Zoot Tech: one thing i'm wondering is could there be a blacked-out window on top of the gmcp mapper that is smaller than it is
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hmm how would I check that?
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am moving it around and it doesn't change
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Zoot Tech: i think moving it around is enough to make sure that's not the problem, so that rules that out!
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: heh ok
T3/r7/2017-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hmm mapper hide and mapper show doesn't fix it, only a reload of the whole plugin
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: hi, im askin for help with a nongame tech issue iseem tohave developed in the last 8 hours somewehre... can someone tell me is there a bug out there that makes the laptop or computer ring as if a phone is ringing on it for no apparent reason?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sounds like you may have a virus.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: yeah thats what im talking about? have you heard anything about this virus? its annoying as heck
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: or a webpage is open and its advertisement is giving the sound.. happened to me once..
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Almila.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: ooo.. that .. hmm i aleardy checked.. i dont have a websight open that woud do that at this time.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: check the running services and see anything irregular?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: erm, running processes is better term
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: b...hmmm so windows defender isnt visur.. protection?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: virus... dysexia si fu.. dyslexia is so fun when you wanna type fast
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It is, but no one anti-virus protects against everything. Does it happen when all your browsers are closed?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: it started about 2 hours ago. and it keeps making that sound over and over again. im like ready to buy another antivirus thingyjust tocover all my bases
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: restarted computer?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Right-click on the sound icon in your task tray, choose 'open volume mixers' and see if anything other than speakers is activated.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't buy an anti-virus. Download Malwarebytes.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: already did that. about 10 minutes ago.. i actually thought i fried the harddrive cos it went to a blue screen for about a minute
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: does that workd wiht windows 10?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Ok, so, it plays a ringtone type noise when you do what?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I have it myself.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: arcidayne i will do that now. is it free to try?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Sounds like someone remote connected and changed a setting imo
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's free in general. There's a pro version, but not needed.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Highly doubtful, Savocktal.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Tis what I do to friends to annoy them, just saying. Maybe he doesn't keep company like mine :P
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: ok afk while i .. its called malwarebytes?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Igamu is female.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: om also a girl so quit callinme he!! LOL!!!
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Meep, I am sorry.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne grins evilly.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Didn't mean to offend, if that is the case >.<
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne rips Savocktal's wig off his head, proving they're a MAN!
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Savocktal bonks Arcidayne on the head for being such an UTTER moron.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: My wig!
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Savocktal snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: no i tohogut it was funny! after all, i been speaken ot you and playing on here for about a month right? i thought you knew iw as a girl/woman
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: i mean pleaying on here wiht yuou .. i can type... 8P
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne goes to Igamu, "SUUUUUUUURE...."
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Igamu ROTFLS
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Tbh, I rarely pay attention to any chat channel, or I am not here, just staying logged in. Just figured I would pipe in with my theory on your current issue.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: thank you Savocktal
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: ya made mah day
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I miss the days of ctrl+alt+down to flip a screen upside down.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Ha
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I did that once to someone in class. They literally tried to turn their monitor upside down.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I almost got expelled from HS many years ago because I cracked their admin password, and sent the whole district command prompt messages to their screens.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: netsend * You suck! was a fun command, too. Or whatever the netsend message command was. I forget, it's been years.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ah, yes, msg * You suck
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Anyway, hope Igamu gets the issue fixed. I have to wake up early tomorrow to walk to work, so good night and sleep well, geeks and freaks.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Savocktal curtseys gracefully to Arcidayne.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: im hoping this will work...
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Me too. If you ever look for a good protection program, I run Vipre. Pay I think 60$ for it, but imo, well worth it. Free updates, and I've been free of everything for awhile now. Some other cheaper ones can work just the same, but you can notice same lag when doing many things
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Vipre's is like .101 milliseconds lag when it needs to check something.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: I don't even notice anymore.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Ooo, actually.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Can get for 29.99 atm
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: that's a pretty accurate measurement 
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: Mmhmm, Kaspersky is .312 ms, McAfee is at .282 ms, TrendMicro I think it is is faster than Vipre, but also doesn't check ports intake/output as often
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: If you know what you are looking for, can use a program like Ethereal to check individual packets incoming/outgoing from each port
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savocktal Tech: To detect a raw/unwanted connection, in which you can freeze *only* that traffic.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: its still going on even with the malware protection on it. i can't figure it out so im gonna take it in to see if i can get it fixed. but tomorrow, not today. too much going on and tis too late at night to fix it today.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: thankies for all your help you guys.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Savocktal licks Igamu.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: i think it might have worked. mabye. i hope it did cos i cant stand any more of that. its just too.. abrasive on my nerves at themoment. i even went so far as to turn the sound cos of it. but it stoppped now i think... i hope!
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Savocktal crosses his fingers tightly!
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: NOOOO its back!! crapola
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: it seems to have worked. im waiting to see if it did. if not i'll take it in tomorrow and get it fixed by someone that knowswhat the cke .. heck they're doing...
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makoa Tech: can a mushclient macro send an alt+key command to the mud?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rythen Tech: are there any useful plugins for mudlet for aardwolf?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: anyone know where to get the winkle spelup script? Basts seems to have a horrible memory leak in it
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: maybe nokfah has it..
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: https://code.google.com/archive/p/aardwolf-scriptalicious/downloads
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: bast's does?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ineed
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it appears that it was basts that is causing the leak in memory
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Ty for the spellup link
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: pleasure
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: is there another plugin that shows your current affects?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hmm looks like Winkle's spellup script doesn't autocast Timeshifting, anyway to add this to a list so it does?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: winkle doesn't do any subclass respell.. you need make your own trigger for it
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ah
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: any windows 10 experts here? i cannot connect my notebook to wifi. it had no problem till yesterday. tries a few things but failed. any suggestions?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: might have been a stealth update... rollback the driver?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: no rollback for adapter driver.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: how is your wifi signal?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: it is good, i can connect with other devices with no problem.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: i meant, what is the notebook reporting?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: it shows full.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: what is the error you get?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: cannot connect to this network.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: helpful huh
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: which windows?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: windows 10.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: disable/reenable the network adapters in device manager?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: didn't work
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: reboot?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: router? i reboot windows. it didn't work.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: try forgetting the wifi network and let it find it again
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I'm not on Win10. But find the list of saved networks and delete that network completely
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: i deleted all the networks:( still no good.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: can the laptop connect to other networks?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: i didn't try that actually.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: can it be related to time settings? our country just turned daylight savings.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: 2 hours online and memory is holding at 71.1 Mb looks like basts spellup program at least has a mem leak under wine
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: i changed to broadcast channel to 2 and it works now hehe.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: weird.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: 2.4ghz signal?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: no, channel. it was on auto.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: changed it from router.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: nod, probably a 2.4GHz band. those can get clogged up pretty easily. there's an Android app that lets you see what channel nearby signals are on. usually 1, 6, and 11 are best.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: thank you for help:)
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: HIGHLY recommend a 5GHz wifi router too. for anyone.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Have Fiendish been around last couple days?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: he is linkdead in recall
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: really
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I need some help with serial investory plugin, it's not working and it seems to cause massive lag when anything item related is used
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Fiendish halp pls
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: describe the problem
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Other day mushclient refused to load all startup plugings including aardmush core plugins by you not gonna mention the rest
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Les Esc Argot Tech: Did you try turning it off and on again?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: you are the one who decided to share your plugins fiendish :)
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so you're basically telling me "it didn't work" without telling me what error message you got
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sorry, I can't help without the error message
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Eventually, I had to manually add the missing plugins, trying to figure out which ones were not part of your default mushclient package
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: So I'm at point where Inverntory_Serial is not functional and I think it's causing massive lagspike when item related thing is going on
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define "massive lag spike"
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Got a bad item, rerequesting inventory data for Inventory
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: That's what I get when I do inventory with 'now' Inventory_serial plugins added
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "got a bad item"?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: something displays that message?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: x30
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not my plugin.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: 30 lines of that if I type inventory
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my inventory serials plugin doesn't print that anywhere
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: So the problem is another plugin and your plugin don't like eachother
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it also doesn't re-request
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess so
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I was gonna also ask, is there way to restore the last startup plugins state? Well it happened couple days ago now, out of blue majority of plugins didn't load on startup, I closed client, restarted no change so I had to add them which was headache to say least :P
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/endavis/bastmush/blob/9d3bdef1d0cd20ede193e031a4cac03ab90b8ab6/Bast/eqDB.xml#L494
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Oh ok removed eqdb it works now with serials on
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: wonder if it fixed lag too
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Oh yeah, so bast's eqdb was hammering me with lag
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: since I don't know what you did to cause the plugins to not load, I can't suggest what to do to fix it
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I blame Fiendish!
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: That's the thing I did nothing, I shut down PC and next  day evening came online
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I still get document failed to save message
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: When turning off PC
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Well at least I got rid of item lags, that was high priority annoyance
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is that a mushclient problem?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Yes, well you tell me, I close Mushclient, it doesn't ask to save, I guess nothing needs to be saved, then I proceede to shutdown PC and just before I can do it, error message pops up, MUCHclient header, Document failed to save, clicking OK, leads to asking if I wanna save variables before closing (that's with mushclient already closed)
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: So I press Yes to save, it repeats, Document failed to save
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what happens if you do Ctrl+S right now?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Someone else had same issue when shutting down PC
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Nothing? No message is displayed
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Mouse turns to active (as saving documents/loading for 1second)
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sounds about right
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: duno. that could be because I'm using a pre-release version of mushclient because it fixes a necessary bug. But it's built with a different build system than the official release version
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I actually remember, the night before next day when plugins failed to startup, I manually saved World details to hopefully prevent document failed to save crap when shutting PC down, that's only thing I did
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think you should report that bug to the mushclient forum about 5.06-pre
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I'm too damn lazy to revert 1870, but I really wanna just go back to old thing without problems :p
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyone know what eqdb does?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: it's bast's equipment plugin for his equipment window
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what does the equipment window do?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Never really used it, but lets you browse your inventory in  a window at the very least...
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: it's a point and show inventory plugin
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: it doesn't work real well
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Yeah, miniwin for eq
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: at least not for me
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: think it has sets too but been a long time, slowed my computer down to much.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Yes it does, it adds quite massive lag to item usage
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: it just kept saying i wasn't wearing whatever i moused over
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: when I load it I get millions of errors from miniwin.lua when mouseover
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: so mouse over stuff and a window pops up with info about the item
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But that was before I moved to SsD
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Hmm, I should move mush to SSD too
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: if mush is slow on your compture, it's not your hdd that's the bottleneck
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Oh it's not slow
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I just get tons of "worlds\plugins\Bast\lua\miniwin.lua:1952: attempt to index global 'colour_conversion' (a nil value)"
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Not always true Ronad, at least when it comes to sqlite plugins :)
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Yes plugins+MUSH reason to move SSD, I love plugins!
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Is there change down in line to turn Underline off per default Fiendish? Aside from mapper, some plugins produce hyperlinks.. that leads to many underlines, can always turn off underlines... it also reloads underliners if adding/removing/reinstalling plugins
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: like what plugins
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: S&D, Auction ontop of head
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: can you ask them to use the no_underline flag on their hyperlinks?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Auction/Market plugin is Arcidayne, S&D most likely not, WW not around anymore :P
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I thought S&D has been redone by others
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: yes, by lunk, and someone else
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you're still using the one from winklewinkle then you have bigger problems
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: if you're still using that one... how did you get it to work? :D
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (you can't)
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: But adding underline permanently off function not so doable? As optimization
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't see it as an optimization to make all links invisible because sometimes a plugin clusters them
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: huhh, after I added Inverntory serials, removed eqdb, I still see this {invmon}7,1803881828,-1,-1
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: inventory serials doesn't use invmon
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this is of course why tags suck and I want to get rid of them
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: well, so underline must be always enabled per default even if user doesn't want them to be enabled, can't save them turned off, hmm
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm open to making it a toggle, it's just not an optimization and I think you should ask the plugin authors to use the no_underlines flag when clustering hyperlinks
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Toggle would work just fine for me, I'm not sure how many are eager to change that just for me :p
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Maybe I'm only one not liking underlines!
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so far you've mentioned two, which is not so many
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and I know that lunk likes making updates
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: hmm, how do I rid of this invmon tag, I don't have plugin with invmon related added/enabled, is that eqdb?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: help tags
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: type invmon
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Oh right that works too derp
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Was going to ask, if there's a way to create triggers group, all triggers in group using same sound? ie. I'd like to have all double XP related triggers to use same sound, so instead adding them to each trigger I could use group sound trigger
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so it looks like miniwin_eq just doesn't work and errors all over the place. does anyone actually use it here?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Khannon: I doubt it
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: oh well
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: sounds like someone should make plugin! :PPP
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it looks like miniwin_eq is relying on the existence of something that it shouldn't :\
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: So something I've brought up before, mapper roomnotes displaying double, the 2nd display when entering room is caused by S&D, is there way to see debug why it's displaying is second time?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's displaying because it gets to that line of cod
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: code
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess find the line in S&D where it decides for some reason that it needs to also display room notes?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: hah, wait I remember I think I removed it, umm....
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: back then.. I mean
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I'm not sure what I'm looking for though
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Guessing it's Mapper_Extender
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ugh. ok, now what's the command to show the hidden eq miniwin :[
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I just upgraded to r1825 hopefullu nothing got broken af
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so I found the problem with miniwin_eq
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it will be fixed in the next release
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i thought it was basts? lol
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes. he was assuming something would exist that I seem to have removed
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so I'm putting a copy of it back just for him
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok lunk's s&d is amazing, this is the first I ever use it
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Meh I don't really know how to fix the multiple mapper notes display
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: It's probably somewhere xrt function, mapper goto without extender doesn't display mutiple room notes, with extender it does
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: fiendish: you don't need to fix it, I fixed it in my plugins, just haven't made a release yet, because I have to remember how to do it :)
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: how to make a release that is :)
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Bast did you know that your spellup script has a bit of a memory leak?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no, I haven't seen it, unless the garbage collection isn't giving me the correct info in mushclient
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: it might be mush and wine interaction mem leak
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I was getting over 1.6 Gb of memory used my mush, the culprit appears to be one of the three xmls used for teh spellup program
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did the mem usage go up in the memory column when you typed plugins?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: when I type plugins the whole client crashes
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: um, well, that's a problem that needs to be fixed. It seems your wine install is wonky.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am using the same version as Fiendish(under his advice to upgrade) but it also happend when I was using the last version and 1.6(from the ubuntu store)
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i'm using wine 2.0
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am using 2.4 (staging)
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: but it happend for me on 1.6 and 2.0
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Is multiplaying legal now?
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo gives Tol a nod, saying, "OK".
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: darn fiendish left already
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: his mapper is still messing up for me, lol getting the black screen where it should be a map
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: once i woke up, my client showd no lifesigns, i logged in with a char. and my alt was completely online.
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: so weird
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I'm probably gonna switch navi psi at t9 end so Ic an pup with our blacksmiths no point having million blacksmiths
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: oh well miss
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: give us your secrets
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: my vorp counter plugin is not working
T3/r7/2017-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: it is starky's, just doesnt report it to the channel. Are there any other ones that dont use a channel
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WIBBLING Bastra Tech: question, are any of those on and watching this channel VI mac users?
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: are there any other vorp counter plugins besides starky's
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd imagine bast's statdb and opochtli's sharptracker count them
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't even need a plugin. simple trigger and variable works well.
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Currently up to 1600 tracked vorpals.
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I would, but I am too lazy
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: its literally more work to set up a plugin...
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You may be lazy, but you are inefficient at being lazy.
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: well sharptracker actually offers other features I was looking for anyway so it is not that inefficient
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Anyone know an open source  Windows OCR program - that ideally converts text based PDFs to text searchable format?  I found google's tesseract, but that seems to be more a backend without a GUI...and all the GUIs are Linux.
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: aint there gui for tesseract?
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: https://ocr.space/blog/p/free-ocr-windows.html
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quiet Nuala Tech: Can I expand an alias inside of another alias in Mush?
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: Use Send To "Execute"
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Anyone on that's familiar with the eqSets plugin for MUSHclient?  I'm getting errors with everything in my inventory - "Got a bad item, rerequesting inventory data for Inventory"
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: had the same problem, stopped using it
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: do you have a different, but similar plugin to suggest?
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Zoot Tech: madcatz has an eq one that looks a lot simpler i've never tried it though
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jilted sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: I don't need one right away, as I'm sitting a bit but good to know for the future
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Zoot Tech: i use bast's and i kind of regretted it in the middle because it was a lot of work to set up
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: in the middle? like mid levels?
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Zoot Tech: by the time i was setting up my 3rd set of eq in it, felt too late to give it up! hehe
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I guess I have no personal preference on which one to use, so long as it works, heh.  Getting frustrated at setting up so many aliases after coming back to the game - would like a nice, simple plugin to manage my inventory and eq
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: ha sunken cost
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I wouldnt mind having one too
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: is there a way to add rbid to the comm log or is that something fiendish will have to add
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: right click the comm log then click customize channels
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: you can include it
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: it is selected but it didnt show up in the auctions that just took place
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: ahh, check capture other info
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i dunno, it captures for me :)
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ah yes remort auction capture was disabled in capture other info thanks a lot
T3/r7/2017-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I hate bad programmers.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Wow plugins failed to load on startup again
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone use/know how to use Mushclient and playsound?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just put sound file into your sounds folder, then for example "PlaySound (1, "quest_target_found.old.wav", false, 0, 0)"
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Huh, where does MUSH save mapper database? to backups, automatic saves?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: the database is in the main folder and called aardwolf.db. the backups are in a subfolder named db_backups
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: ah great, just last thing I needed to leave r1900, going back to 1870 :p
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I wish in tree view for alias, you could change group name for all aliases under that tree
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I think that wish is 20000 qp
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: is there a plugin that will manage my google play account from within the mud so I can enter commands for music?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: I amhaving so much trouble with mapper portals. I just want the mapper to get the portal from portal bag when needed then enter it, then put it back and hold what I was holding before. Is this possible?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: One of two ways you can do it.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Caramia listens.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: lunk's mapper ninja plugin also offers a way to do it simply I thinl
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can do the command in full (get portal bag;;wear portal;;enter;;remove portal;;put portal bag) or create an alias like 'port *' that does all the work for you. I personally use the alias.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: port * uses varible definitions?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Arcidayne do you know how to fix display mapper notes lines? :P mapper_extender seems to cause it but I can't figure out why
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: My mapper portals all do 'port <serial number>', and the port alias looks like this: if "%1" == GetVariable("heldportal") then Execute("enter") else Execute("get %1 " .. GetVariable("portalbag")) Execute("wear %1") Execute("enter") Execute("wear " .. GetVariable("heldportal")) Execute("put %1 " .. GetVariable("portalbag")) end
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Khannon: You're talking about how it sometimes displays notes multiple times?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: it acutally always does, I think the reason is something to do with xset room, for instance if you xrt to oz, wait in xset room and then execute oz/wizard navigation assuming you have mapper notes on exits to those navigated rooms, it doesn't display more then once
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: but if I mapper goto room, that runs past xset room to mappers notes room then it does display, it also displays the double notes if xset room has mapper notes, since I guess again it's something to do with xset room arrival
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I haven't bothered to look into fixing it myself, to be honest. I've just dealt with it, unfortunately.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: I guess i do not know what that %1 is. I am not a coder, so it is difficult for me that part.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Caramia: %1 is the wildcard. Essentially, in 'port *', the * can be whatever you want it to be, and it sets to %1 in the script.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: if you ran past xset room while going to areas, it constantly brings up ** aborting speedwalk... thing so it doesn't actually seem to register passing thrugh xset room in areas
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: thank you arcidayne I will try what you said and see if it works. I do not have too many portals entered. I will start from scratch. Thank you.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'll be here all day if you need help.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I'm thinking if I wanna add execute to mine now
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: thank you very much.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I guess it's cleaner can sometimes prevent trying to get portal from bag
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: I tried to use the 2 way mirror as portal and it kept saying you pull out a mirror. It is like a game alaias.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: alias
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: that is a social, maybe turn on strict social
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: I turn it on and I get 'Your pager will now require 'Q' to quit.' no idea what that is.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's the break in long paragraphs of text.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: ok, thanks.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Are you still trying to do the port alias?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay, let's work together on it, in a second.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Caramia: You probably don't, but do you have portal wish yet?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: no, not yet
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay, didn't think so. I'm going to tailor that alias to suit your needs.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: When you wear a portal, do you have something else that you remove first?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: That is very kind of you. I remove a stone I hold.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: First, I need you to make two variables. The first will be called 'helditem' and will contain the keyword of the item you hold (variables so you can change them when you change hold items).
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can do it easily by typing \\\SetVariable("helditem", "stone")
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: On the command line, anyway.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: ok, should I delete the variables that I have and the aliases in regards to the mapper I have now?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Might make it easier, yes.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: variable set and aliases removed.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay. You have your portals in a bag?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: yes. Right now it is in an urn
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: \\\SetVariable("portalbag", "urn")
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That will be your next command.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: done
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: wouldn't an alternative solution be to make an ingame alias regarding the held item, and invoke that? when you change level and have a new held item, simply change the ingame alias.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: https://pastebin.com/1zJviAdF -- Copy everything there, then do Shift+Ctrl+9 and click 'paste'
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Liber: in-game aliases don't allow for flexibility and parameters as easily as a client-side alias.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: even the raw paste data copy?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, I mean copy from lines 1-16.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: lets say we use a dual weapon instead of a held item, would we just put dual instead of wear in the execute
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Grissom.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: sweat this will help me a lot too
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why are you sending to script, where every script line is just Execute...just send to execute...
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Because it's in script format.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'd have to make changes otherwise to send to execute.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Also keep in mind it's a modified version of my own. :p
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: done
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no reason for it to be in script format
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Caramia: Perfect. Now, when you type 'port mirror', you'll execute the commands. And you can use that command in setting mapper portals.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Magna: Again, it's a modified version of mine, I just copied and pasted. :p
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and there shouldn't be an "end" even in script format
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: Compile error
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh crap, yeah, need to remove that end in the port.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yours is probably a named function ;-)
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Caramia: Open up the port alias (shift+ctrl+9, double-click it) and remove the 'end' in it.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I was suggesting the ingame alias only for the 'held' position (or dual - the same alias can actually switch between them, at the right level). since that part is without any parameter (it's constant at a given level range), I think it's simpler to change the alias in game, than to edit the client-side script. but I agree that's only marginal diference.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I get lazy when I share my stuff. I remove all things irrelevant to everyone else. Haha.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, you don't edit the alias. Just the variable.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: that worked!
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: port * will work for keywords and serial numbers, so feel free to use whatever you want. I stick with serial numbers, but if you want to know what you're pulling out, you can id your portal and put all the keywords in there (so like port 'mirror denaria' or whatever the keywords are)
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: if you hold something up to lvl. N, and dual from there to 201, the alias might have to change, or you should create a different variable for the action to take.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: so when I am questing, and I need a mirror to get to location, will it take it out of my urn
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes, as long as you set the portal in the mapper.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: great thanks so much Arcidayne!
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Liber: That is very true, yes. But not a consideration for me since I do have portal wish. :P
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Caramia.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And it works, for now. When she's ready to move up to bigger leagues, she'll either have experience or she can ask again. :)
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so now, you'll want to put all of your portals into the mapper as just "port <blah>
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wrt keyword vs itemID, there are 2 cases where you might prefer keyword: (1) if you have 2 characters which will both use the same mapper file, and (2) easy-to-get portals that you re-get each mort
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I don't even understand my mapper setup for portals anymore, good thing it works by itself :>
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles at Khannon's joke.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: mine works when it does not have a portal to get.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: though I'd wanna edit it to prevent attempting to get portal from bag if it'a already equipped which your setup does I think, very minor quality of life
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: maybe I should portals in by id number to save the 'mirror' issue
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Khannon: That's what my personal alias did, some of the fluff I removed from the script itself.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Caramia: Or use full keywords.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: did you do that by remembering the last parameter used?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: port 'mirror two' would work.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramia Tech: Arcidayne: yes I can do that
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Liber: No. It checks my heldportal variable. If it matches, then just enter.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: where heldportal variable is the last parameter sent to port()? :)
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Jumping in the middle here, but is using the item ID a option?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Liber: Nope. It's the variable set by hportal. ;)
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: all my setup uses item ID's
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes, Gladacus.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I don't understand. is hportal your alias name for the, well, improved version of the alias described above?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Now to back finding double mapper notes display... I just don't understand mapper_extender code enough to understand why it doesn't seem to know when xset room is run past
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hportal is his alias to set the variable for his held portal
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the "I'm choosing to wear the tiger of kai all the time" alias
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: ok. I was asking what exactly do you set there :P
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And allows me to change the heldportal variable when I choose to wear something else.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the setup that was just created, it's the "helditem" variable
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but his has slightly more logic no bother trying to do the wear/rewear stuff if starting portal = portal we're using
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Precisely.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Which is partly why it's send to script rather than execute on my end.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: well, in the setup there the helditem is a variable not changed by the alias. so the process would be: if currentportal != newportal then get newportal bag; wear portal; put currentportal bag; set(currentportal, newportal)
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Heh, I finally broke down and bought a lifetime pastebin pro account. :p
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Liber laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Now watch me never use it again.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: thats what happened to me lol
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: pocket2 - 6500 without adjustment
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Any one know how to keep last commands entered in mush yo stay in type window ?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Game>Configure>commands. Check Auto repeat command
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: ty
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Exactly what lines of code would I need to do -> Player level + tier x 10
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Need more information, name the client and the language.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But if you are talking Mushclient, finger me and look at my Level Progress Reporter.  It does it, though you may want to check on the mushclient FAQ, easier ways to access GMCP data these days.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Anyway to make, only the dark blue colour codes, slightly brighter?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes, but do you, have a breathing, problem with all those commas?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Its either too many or none at all with me
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: So, how would you go and brighten it?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Go to ANSI configs in settings.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Lol, how do you even get there
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: ...
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Nvm
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can change them to any shade you want.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Forgot settings is the tab with scripting/alias/trigger and all
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Too lazy to pick a colour I like but I picked the first one I could actualy see, lol
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Lazy people.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Guessing the stuff that's still dark, is xterm then?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Probably.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frothy Tech: how do you command the mud app to go back to normal screen layout, or original
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frothy Tech: lmaoam   nm
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: is there an efficient way to get some sort of really major notification if you walk into a room the aarch professor happens to be in?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: (using mushclient)
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: Emm, you obviously are a stranger to sound triggers.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: that is a good idea
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: was thinking something like flashing text or something
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but a chime would be even better
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: okay that worked really well
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I also just made a client alias that organizes my satchel
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: nice :)
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: can just use invsort satchel
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emm blushes.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mique smiles happily.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: but does it actually sort sort the inventory
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: no it doesn't
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: in other words is this now working from help invsort: the ability to actually re-order inventory based on the output
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: mine just takes everything out and then puts everything back in opposite of the order I want it displayed in
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, there are a few plugins that do that available
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have a big bag and you don't put a delay in your script to do that, it'll actually knock you off
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so the MUSHclient speedwalk function is perfect to use
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: madcatz made the first bag sorter script
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does the sorting, as well as letting you do level-based get/put
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: when invsort came in, there was the 
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast has another one iirc
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: the.. *its not finished note
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: typos=inv sorting. cant have typos, must have well made inv handling. not trolling. just saying.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: those are equal topics
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No one understands him.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: inventory management is so important. 
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: its as important as eliminating typos
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: oh crap. im one:P
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: We should eliminate you.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: and then what? go on with messy bags?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I dunno if we can consider you a typo cuz nobody knows how you're supposed to be spelled
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: forever?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: inv sort is your friend.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: invsort, anyway.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: yep. its a good thing. but not complete
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Here in Aardwolf, we speak English.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's how we understand people.
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: whats your problem now?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i said invsort is not complete. it should get attention. thats about it. nothing else
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: in whatever time:P
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so if I have an integer
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tonumber() is your friend
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: but I need to to conform to a certain range...
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: as in my integer is between 0 -63
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: but I need to make it be either 43,45,48-57,65-90,97-122
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: that way I can cast it into a char of either +-0-9a-zA-Z
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you gonna make me look at an ascii table? :P
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I told you what ascii values they were
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I don't need help casting them to ascii
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I just need my 0-63 to be 43,45,48--57,65-90,97-122
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I was just adding 64 to my integer and hoping for the best but that is not really what I want. I want it to be in those certain ascii ranges for specific chars
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I could set up a large if else block or a switch(as this is java) but that seems clunky
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where is this integer coming from?
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am making that off of a calculation on an arbitrary 6 character string
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I mean I could just have 5 if statement or a switch that does it for me.. but I think that looks terrible
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am hoping for a more elegant solution
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: could just do a lookup table...0=+, 1=-, 2=0, 3=1, etc. to 63
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: meh, a switch would be cleaner than that
T3/r7/2017-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, rather than actual lookup table, string of +-0123456789ab...YZ...do your thing to get 0-63, then take the value in that slot of the string
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stunner Tech: does anyone use zmud that can help me with an issue?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: i used it a long long time ago... zmud or cmud?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stunner Tech: zmud
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: someone upgraded sharptracker for last mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: hadars doesnt work anymore?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: Hadar has it on his site i think, updated for opk and such
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: https://hadar.ninja/plugins/
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: sharptracker is ok but I wish someone would really convert it.. it doesn't seem to be making use of gmcp
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I believe hadar is building new one
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it's only about 10k lines of code to update
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wismyr Tech: oh that's no probel 
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I never done programming but I bet most of those lines are actually 1 line in gmcp
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: sharptracker uses no gmcp as far as i can tell
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: that was the point :P it needs updating to use gmcp
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: if only the info channel showed the time between my pups, I wouldn't use sharptracker at all
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: is there a way to get mushclient to supper 256 colours or have i forgotten about a toggle server side?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: so, the last one updated is from hadar?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: never mind ... read the help file properly
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: almila, try this trigger for puptimer : https://pastebin.com/HJj1cS2U
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: thanks, ima try it out
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I regularly transfer between playing on  a 1920x1080 screen to a 1366x768 screen(external monitor to laptop and vice-versa) is there any way I can store the position of the windows in mush and easily switch between them for my different monitors
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: if you figure that one out I would be interested also!
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not really, but every time someone brings it up I remind myself to add multiple layouts
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hehe, I would work on that with you. I could finally get a friend to use Mush if we had that
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: would using different worlds be a possibilty. Or maybe have different state files for each layout?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: using different worlds would work, but they wouldn't share mapper databases because it's based on the world name
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: actually...it might be possible to have two different world files with different file names but the same world name
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you could try that
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use same map file using a shortcut
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i made an alias that would change the various settings for each window
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Magna's idea would also work
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but other world stuff wouldn't be shared
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frothy Tech: bigger fonts, etc, like it
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I assume most of the other settings are set-once things
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the alias for mapper's great for alts, but not so much for the same character but different environment
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm thinking things like sharptracker, eqdb and statdb which hold lots of info particular to a character
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: set your layout up in the one window, save it, open up your save file and get all the width, height, position numbers, then set an alias to set it
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so you just have to use the alias once whenever you're switching computers
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Redryn.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I dont mind setting up the different plugins because that is just typing, the problem with the layouts is it is tedious and impossible to get it exactly same again. I might do that then
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: aye, that is the way some people are doing it, but most won't want to do all that set up
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: make fiendish write a function to save it ;)
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: he isn't our slave..
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he just mentioned that possibility
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: of course he is
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: fiendish made himself a slave, although isnt the source code of the client on github?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so anyone could do the work and just submit it for inclusion
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: In fact, Fiendish encourages it, I believe.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He probably won't include things like WInkle's S&D, but if someone wants to help develop, send him the plugins and he can incorporate them.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this wouldn't even be another plugin...an alias in the existing plugin and a second set of size/pos variables
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: The beauty of open source people, go do it, I will give a tp to the person who does the fastest
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: would probably need to redo how resetaard works, because it's a stupid little hack
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but without looking, it'd probably need slight mod in almost all of the other plugins
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so that they know the extra size/pos
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and yes it's a stupid little hack in all of the plugins
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: reset aard doesn't work for all the miniwindows...
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: of course
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it only works for ones that use fiendish's system
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: resetaard only has an alias in my plugins
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'd love to have resetaard get proportional numbers from the main window size though
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or from the screen size
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (or whichever is smaller)
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 3rd party plugins would need to include resetaard functionality (ww does with xset reset gui)
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: xset reset gui is only ever used because people literally drag it off the edge of the screen because it doesn't prevent that
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: resetaard should work with my plugins, btw ;-)
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: They will not work with mine
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: It not they
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should change that
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the best solution might be to have miniwindow positions managed on a registration-based system like the z ordering is done
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I should but I am really lazy right now with life things, maybe after I secure a job and finish school
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: a plugin registers its intent to be managed, and then another plugin does the managing
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but maybe that's too complicated
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: probably the best solution, but that's a whole bigger thing to write than just a set of x/y ;-)
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Magna, sounds like a project for you
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm leaving in a few to go work outside all day
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't have time to look at making a second set of remembered x,y,width,height until next weekend
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: z ordering is only done that way because WindowSetZOrder didn't always exist and Z was originally determined lexicographically
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tol: poke me on Friday if nobody else has done it by then :-)
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: will do
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: If you guys can do this I will be very grateful, luckily I wont need to switch screens for two weeks so I will be fine till then
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is anyone here using r1900 on a Windows pc?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I need to ask you to do something that may freeze mushclient
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so far I only know that it works in Linux+Wine
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I use Windows PC, r1900 for until tomorrow, then I'm rolling 1870
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's fine
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: as long as it's r1900 right now
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Almost positive I do.  Whatcha need?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you shrink your mapper window down to as small as it can go, does it make mushclient lock up for you?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Can confirm, you broke my client Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: good to know
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: stop breaking things!
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I wonder if one of the pre release build settings is unsafe
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: Does your client refresh when you press alt and f4?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: r1900 is kinda special. it's the first time I've released a pre- version to people
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: And I managed to go for it without backup
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in my defense, I can't control when Nick makes official builds of MUSHclient.exe and the pre- version fixes a bug that I needed fixed
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also it would be nice to get the pre- versions to be safe
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because then the whole build system could be kept up to date instead of relying on a version of visual studio from the 90s
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just know that your pain is helping to make mushclient better
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, definitely locks up on Windows PC. Quite interesting. No idea why anyone would want to shrink it that small, though.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I'm all for updates, and testing, but shit broke on week where everyday in work was high stress level :>
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I actually discovered it while trying to figure out why suddenly the black miniwindows glitch is happening _all_ _the_ _time_ 
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Saying things broke and not describing WHAT broke isn't conducive to getting them fixed.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I told you plugins are not loaded, and all I get is document is not saved
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: There's literally no other errors or ways for feedback since mushclient itself is alrady closed
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: probably also a pre- problem. definitely not a plugin problem. I'll poke Nick about it
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: though, Khannon, consider the possibility that there is some operating system problem
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Plugins are not loaded? Have you manually loaded them afterwards?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: if it only happened to me, but someone mentioned he thought he was only one, but then we were two
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if I had a nickel for every time two people had operating system problems...
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne grins evilly at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Windows 10 Pro. No issues here.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Yes Arcidayne I had to load majority plugins including Fiendish package plugins now multiple times, it takes time my folders for plugins were mess, not built to be reloaded multiple times for out of blue fail
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I think some of it boils down to plugins themselves. Some people write plugins that have shoddy code in it.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: It was core plugins such as layout on mush, some of fiendish plugins resintall if they fail to load
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Have you checked the Aardwolf.mcl file to see if they're properly loaded there?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't think this is a plugin issue. it sounds like something is blocking the world file from actually getting saved
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Location of installation file, maybe.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Installing it to Programs file will screw things up.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: it's on desktop, been forever
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As a side note Windows 10 has been trying to block installation of MUSH, too. Have to view details and click 'Run anyway' to install.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But that's an OS situation.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Khannon: Have you tried running as administrator?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Mush?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: (Right-click, Run as administrator)
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I always run it as admin
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: shouldn't have to, I think
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Being logged into an admin account is not the same as running it as admin.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Shouldn't have to, but if it loads the plugin files, then it could be key in locating the problem.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but yes I know about the windows 10 blocking installation issue. microsoft and apple both are obnoxious about making developers pay for certificates
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I don't use win10 btw
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I hate it
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Win7 for life
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: vista 5eva
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: win 7 ultimate :)
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: Winblows suckz period :P
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: don't want my pc look like iphone
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: win8 *run away*
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh man. if I could run windows mobile on my laptop I, wait no.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, let's not turn into fanboys supporting your favorite system.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: I've been using linux for years...
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Saying "Windows sucks!" or "Linux sucks!" just lowers your intelligence.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Good for you, Stile.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stile snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: all os's have their advantages and disadvantaages
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Grissom.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: Saying something lowers your intelligence lowers your intelligence too you know :P
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hardly.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: saying you have intelligence lowers your intelligence
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Installing Chocolatey in Windows pretty much solves the only major advantage that a linux system has going for it
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stile is agreeing with that Grissom person again...
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: tiering also reduces your intelligence I think
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: chocolatey is quite interesting.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: Chocolatey?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: Never heard of that...
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay, so let's get back to the topic on hand?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You're on Linux, so it doesn't pertain to you.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: when Khannon closes mushclient, no "Do you want to save?" alert pops up. And then when he goes to reboot his computer he gets a mushclient popup error saying it couldn't save
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: My wife still has winblows on her comp... I did the update to windows 10 on it... It's not *too* terrible imo :P
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stile Tech: Mine still gives an error when I save and exit with the new version...
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah, I actually get a crash on exit with r1900 because of something in the pre- build, but it's on exit so I figured it's no big deal
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I haven't had issues myself. I think the only one I've had so far is that some state files are failing to save now and popped up with an error. I had to disable it because it would happen sporadically, and couldn't pinpoint the reason.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (debian)
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Odd fact: Disabling the plugin didn't stop the attempting saving of state files. Had to actually remove it.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: someone else mentioned that disabling a plugin didn't seem to unload its lua vm
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it might just stop aliases and triggers
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which is not what I would have expected
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That may be it. Mine was waiting on plugin broadcasts and checking if I have the area saved to a table, and updating the table and serializing it if I didn't.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's mentioned in the memory leak thread on the mushclient forum
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Is that memory leak local to one OS? I have 60 plugins installed, and I'm running at 46M. Highest I've seen it is 70M
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But the highest was with a full buffer.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: do you use bast's miniwindow spellup?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes, it is installed.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: huh. might chime in on the thread then. I wonder what the difference is
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, maybe not the miniwindow, hmm. I do have the spellup plugin, though, I'll have to check for the window.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh yeah, didn't have the window itself. And I remember why: when I installed it before, came up with an error. Knew I didn't need it, so I removed it. Just removed it now, and got hit with a page of error from the plugin.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: color error?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I know the eq miniwindow plugin assumes the existence of a color variable that I used to use, so that will be broken in r1900
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Lua errors about not being able to serialize nil. On install, it was attempting to compare number with nil.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: possibly the same problem
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Maybe. Was in regards to addtab.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: People should stop assuming that you're going to keep using the same format across all builds and learn to script it themselves.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ehhh
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they should just stick to the documented bits
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or at least let me know
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my fault for not making the variable private
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I tend to shy away from getting information from other plugins. Makes it easier to identify what the problem is if something breaks.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Fiendish: that error is fixed in my latest build
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ooh
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: In my dev version I'd put the color table back in under the old name
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but I guess you beat me to it
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because what you did was really not a problem, I just didn't realize it when I changed the color file around
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: well, i would have fixed it earlier, but I haven't played regularly in over a year
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: oh did you find the mem leak?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not playing regularly hurts my testing process too. I barely have any plugins loaded
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Tol: probably not
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: arcidayne said he doesn't have a leak 
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: aww :( I wanted to switch back to basts spellup program instead of winkles
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: at least not with spellup, but he doesn't have the miniwin loaded
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is it in the miniwindow or the spellup itself?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: not sure, didn't know they could be loaded seperatly
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think you can unload or just not load the miniwindow
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway glad to see you still kicking around, bast
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the spellup miniwindow is a complicated mess, it was a showcase of my miniwindow base class. So yes, it might have a leak, but I haven't seen it. You don't need the miniwindow for it to work.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: that flat theme in the mushclient pr's looks really nice
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Grissom: I'll get to it, I promise. I just have to completely rewrite the color file yet again, because I'd fixed an ansi change bug with another overhaul but then lost all of the code for the fixes
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which is annoying as hell
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Fiendish: ouch, I hate when that happens.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Bast, I really like how the results of your help file has more than one color per line :) first time I've seen capability to do that considering colournotes' limitation
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Zhalut: colourtell?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: Just mentioning that I like it, and would switch if available but I am fine with the current version, not trying to seem demanding
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i think I tried colourtell but sometimes the results ended up on separate lines
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah, themes for miniwindows is an idea I had back when I first started the whole thing years ago, but then I scrapped it "temporarily"
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it would be nice if miniwindows could 'dock', rather than fidgeting around to get them to align perfectly :p
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: It woulda looked more snazzy than E17
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's non-trivial
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea i know
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's no window manager
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also, I guarantee you there would be some dickhead on aard who would say "Aww, but I really want this one miniwindow to be 2 pixels more away from that one than all the other ones!"
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: do you think it would be possible to implement? not by you necessarily but if someone could make a pr for that would it get in
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Grissom: snapping?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: er, docking?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'd accept it if done the right way. Whoever decides to take that on should talk to me about implementation concerns first
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: yeah something like that, optional snapping of course so the dickhead could have it both ways
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I like 3 pixels
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I think that would require some heavy work, and I'm not sure it's worth it. Miniwindows in mushclient are a kludge, and were not designed to be true windows.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Good morning, just limbering up the dickheadednish
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I want to start writing plugins, I have an idea for a simple one that would have people who play at work
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I love that word. It is a kludge on the English language
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well I found why mushclient hangs if you shrink the mapper window. turns out it's not a new bug. hah
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess it's not the most likely thing for a person to do
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: how do you use the mapper to map nomap rooms?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: I'd like to know as well
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: HAHAHAHAHA
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you make cexit that runs past them :P
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: and then ignore
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's like you don't know what "nomap" means or something
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: crap... agro mobs gonna make that difficult
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I promise the "no" is important there
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: yeah, yeah... haha, area author outsmarts me
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: there are really low amount of areas that you cant get through nomap rooms without attacks
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: we need to break it down to it's component words: "Nom" and "ap" -which are sadly unintelligible and so we cannot know what nomap means
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It's a really tasty appetizer obviouslyu.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: nom = eat
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: meh, yet another google app
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think the only place where nomap really hurts players is in their own clan halls, but that's a choice they make when flagging their hall rooms
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: that's it! omg
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to [Outlaw] Mendaloth.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: ap = appetizer
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: checks out
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: ap = armor piercing or ap = action points
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it would be fun to map gauntlet maze.. and repeat after every repop :P
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think you don't know what fun means
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: spacing out and not thinking about what you're doing isn't fun
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's just mindless
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: relaxing, but boring
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: and here we see a programmer in a state of mental breakdown, dont spook him or he put commit a bug. 
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: BOO!
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: i think by "fun" he meant "skip dealing with gauntlet"
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: implying that gauntlet isn't fun
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: to be honest, one thing that could enhance mush experience is changing gmcp health bar exp to show noexp when it's on in TNL
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: submit a patch
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: For your motorcycle jacket?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'll gladly accept that feature
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: maybe just turn the bar to a configurable color(defualt red) if noexp is on
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't care how you do it
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Does a 10inch tablet drain battery faster compared to a 7inch, when reading e-book at 50% brighness with network signal disabled ? 
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but the battery is probably larger
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle gives The Jerk Fiendish a nod, saying, "OK".
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: what's with the start room of areas moving after setting them?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: HAHAHAHAHA START ROOM HAHAHAHAHAHA
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: areas don't have start rooms
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: in this plugin they do
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: xset mark?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: they shouldn't move once set...
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: happens all the time
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Never happened to me. :D
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anymouse Tech: are you saving?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: every time I quit
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: never happens to me, but then I don't use any plugins that pretend like areas have start rooms
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers with The Jerk Fiendish about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: fiendish it's just a room you set as "when I run to this area take me to this room instead of the room that rt would normally run to"
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He's not dumb. :p
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: I know
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: still not a start room
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Area entrance, sure. Endpoint for runto, sure.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But not start room. :P
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: one possible area entrance
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: if the thing calls it a start room and you understand what I mean, who gives a shit what exact words I use
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: start room is not the right phrase, perhaps
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I care because of the history of how that plugin was developed actually assuming that the first room mapped in the area is somehow meaningful
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: in a lot of areas, it kind of is
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not really.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: so just to be sure, in case I was glossing over something important, I tested just now -14961 set as starting room for citadel
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: a lot of time, there's a sign, or even the mob that introducets the goal or AQ
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: start room
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: sorry I forgot the gerund
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: also thanks for the help
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: I know my question was pretty confusing
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: for me it is 14997
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: ont: I set it to that room. point being it's a start room, and my question about why it shifts remains not only unanswered but un-addressed
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: personally, i think it would be more usefull if that plugin recognized when you reached the area, however, you enter it, and think "okay, we're done"
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: i answered it
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: it shouldn't happen
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: are you talking about S&D?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Ronad: run doesn't work that way. you'd have to use walk instead of run.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or do your own pathfinding
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because the mapper uses run, mostly on purpose
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: you can have a plugin that you declare a mapper note for the start of the area, then you just search for that mapper note within the list of that area. Then your mapper will run to that room as the 'start'
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but it's not the start
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's just a room
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: like zaphod beeblebrox
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: Fiendish, Why is mapper not accepting short paths between areas yet? winkle did it. why cant you? we could get rid of winkle by just implementing winkles xrt between areas.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I personally like calling the things like LOOK AT MEE I AM THE START OF THE AREA BUT YOU ARE TOO LAZY TO ACTUALLY WAIT THE EXTRA SECOND TO GET HERE USING RUNTO
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish giggles.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: weird to say that
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: runto is way lazier
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just takes a third of a second longer
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you don't have to configure anything for runto to work
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Nuanse: I don't want to?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: runto just doesnt work in wrong areas. xrt works
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: wrong areas?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I dont want to is not enough. :P
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it kinda is
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Why not just alias it?  I alias the starting rooms of all the areas so I can shorten the runtos with portals using mapper goto
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: If you want that kind of functionality code it yourself
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I suppose we could assume it is a mapper, not a gotoer
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's no reason for me to add specific speedwalk aliases for you, because you can already do it yourself without programming
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just saying that lasher hates ww, etc, why not just do the xrt and allow running from area to area yourself? fxt : Fiendish runto from area to area
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Guessing Xrt is just a table of room names with room name ID's that it looks up and plugs into mapper goto
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure that doing the thing that winklewinkle did is not the best way for me to stay on good terms with lasher
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: does Lasher really hate S&D that much
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tol giggles.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: xrt took what was missing from aardmush and made it requirement. why cant you run between areas with just mapper?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I already think that mapper goto from outside of an area was probably a mistake
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: also, xrt uses the standard mapper file, look at the code guys 
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: xrt doesnt do anything that mapper couldnt. it just makes it shorter
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus nods.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: it's just an alias for rt, basically
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Xrt is just a small library containing a room number for each area
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the only reason I don't remove cross-area pathfinding from the mapper entirely is that basically it would just stop people from updating
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: the main thing it does is pick your portal instead of running from recall, if appropriate for shorter pathing
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yeah, It's just enhacement for thing that is already there but not coded
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: That and someone would just code it, anyrate
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: path finding is the key. how could ww do it if fiendish didnt even consider it?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: probably the best way, then to use the "start room" would be to set it at the portal destination
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: at least for areas with a single portal
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: For the cases where the area has actualy got a portal, yes, but lately, portals are being phased out on new areas
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it's not portal or anything. it's pathfinding. it's missing and it's very reason why people go to ww
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Why does Lasher not like things that make game easier, more enjoyable to some, not like xrt makes you cheat, look at WoW, imagine playing that game without addons, the game is for last 10 years developed with addons taken account
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: One could argue, less portals = more gain for those who use inter-area speedwalks...but that's a topiic for another day
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: It's a slippery slope to full automation.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: ww pathfinding doesnt make you cheat, it makes you run from a to b fast. 
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: and because he went through the trouble of adding runto
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Nuanse: I don't think we need to pretend that people use S&D because of xrt and not to easybot campaigns.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I would definetly be less interested to do what I do in aard, if not as whole, if I had to run between areas ~50 rooms everytime, while exploring things first time, it's fun experience, not when your doing it for thousands afgter that
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: people take sd because it allows also them to run from area to area without recalling and then running
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Nuanse: bullshit
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: that should have been there from beginning since someone else did it on files fiendish did.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: people use S&D because they want 1-click campaigns
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no, even if Fiendish iplemented that xrt people would still use ww to semi-bot
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: i'll be honest - i use S&D to make my campaign levelling more efficient
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: no fiendish, people use it just to run from a to b
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: i use S&D for easy questing.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: it's not botting by the strictest definition, but only because i have to type kill
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Nuanse: you're wrong because the mapper already does that. you know it, which means you're lying right now.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: StarsOscar is agreeing with that The Jerk Fiendish person again...
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I use sd because I memorized about 90% of rooms 10 years ago, gave a break and now I don't want to rememorize rooms anymore..
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: when you implement use for that in your own.. ww goes way lower in peoples minds
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: from a to b....from a(manor/clanhall) to b(The room that cp mob is in)
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: mapper does it sure, ww does it easier. I dont want to check area, run all their rooms and find where to go. WW does it with just with 2 letters
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: qw mob. that does it all. 
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "I don't want to [think about what I'm doing]". "WW [makes decisions for me]"
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Where X, mapper find Y, mapper next, scan X,mapper next....is it that hard?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you have map, you build database, and everything is there already, you just do not want that to happen, so ww did it for you
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: can we stop this please. I think by now it is very clear Fiendish will never do that to his mapper
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: that's the slippery slope of over automation
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Easy enoug to automate as is, wthout even needing SnD
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: get rid of ww? make command to allow you to run between areas.. like "runto bliss" and your mapper doesnt do it.. ww build his script and build script that does it IN YOUR plugin
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not interested in this conversation.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: lol, what about NO did you not understand?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Also I'm #subbing Nuanse to Nuanse (doesn't listen)
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: We have where, we have mapper find/mapper area, we have mapper goto,mapper next....and in extremes, we have mob q here to decrypt mob scrambles, what more do you need for full automation?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: ... so.... how about them kiwi eggs....
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: so can someone make me an xBee connected IR blaster?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: you guys are smart
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: now for a more reasinable requrest: Is there a way to add "weight" to custom exits/portals?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what's xbee?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: i dont have a soldering iron anymore
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I've used S&D since t0r2, I'm not at this point in game, because S&D played game for me, it made tedious chore easier, but I'm confident I have very wide area expertise for pre-SH, I just see it as plugin, addon in other games where shit that gets boring very fast is automated and I can enjoy game past that
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: internet of things type protocol
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: StarsOscar: why
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: he wants to know if he's gaining weight or portals getting heavier!!
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe warriors getting a new portalpunch skill!
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: i miss spunch
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: fiendish, sometimes a portal has lag (beacon of homecoming) so setting it a weight of, say, 24, woudl mean if there's a path to the beacon less than 24 steps long that should be preferred
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: (not asking for the feature, just explaniing his request)
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: tpspend setweight amulet double
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: standing in a room with notmal exit to recall mapper prefers the take portal bag, hold portal, enter rem portal, put portal bag combo
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you want to go around the mobscramble? how hard is it to implement levenshtein distance algorithm? just saying that between areas running should be in the aardmush
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Guess its for a case of, even though path A is shorter, we want to use Path B instead because its lessa aggros/bypasses a locked door/bypasses some other 'roadblock'
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: i think i just put a higher level on my portal to avoid this for a couple of areas
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I swear people don't listen to themselves sometimes...
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: mapper kept taking me pas the school of horror guard at level 70 :)
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: also whar Gladacus daid, but with less importance
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: You're seriously asking if there's a way to shave a tenth of a second from your run?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I did a mapper cexit mistform past the SOH guard, I wait the 2 sec lag for mist and off i go, else I fight him for a minute lol
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: because in gquest, 10th of a second matters. .. and here I can say, I do not participate :p
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: how long does it take to get portal bag hold enter? Did you time it?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: no it doesnt
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: in maybe 1% of gquests it's close
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: the rest, it's not
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: if its so close that you lose by 1 pulse, chalk it up to learning and improve your character
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: wayyyyy more beneficial than optimizing at the level you're talking about
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: seriously, be glad the mapper doesn't always take you through recall
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: thank xrt that you had to make it so :P
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Odorless Nuanse (doesn't listen) Tech: thank xrt that you had to make it so :P
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse smirks.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: so, I need a bot to outguess the opponent's bot.. who can make it?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just saying, as long as people (even me) think that xrt is better than what you build. there is a problem. Just make it happen and we see decrease of users that use ww's plugins. 
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: now excuse me...I have to make a test plugin to try to replicate the black miniwindow problem.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: every time I see (doesn't listen) pop up on my screen I'm just not going to read what comes after
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's like really bright red, so it jumps out at me
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: How do I look on your screen?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just keep lying yourself. we know you read em anyways
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you look like Gladacus
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus goes 'Awwwww!' at The Jerk Fiendish.  How precious!
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol for this whole covo
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Tol: I resurrected the black miniwindow thread on the mushclient forum
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ok, I will look for it
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: found it, want me to chime in also?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: could do
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sometimes nick forgets about problems that only affect one person
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ok, sent
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: is possible to add spellup from determined class only to ww spellup?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: is possible to add spellup from determined class only to ww spellup, for example timeshifting for navi?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: not that I have noticed Mohan
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: When was updown added for mapper, and how did I miss it was added o_o
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: lol what do you mean?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poorplanning Tech: i don't remember the mapper in mush having trouble with up and down
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Have I never noticed there was function to show up and down in mapper, huh
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poorplanning Tech: of course, i also can't remember how to get these id numbers to stop displaying in my inventory, either...
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: that's inventory_serial plugin
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Poorplanning Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Np
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: global info isn't a channel, right?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: has anyone ever noticed that if you type your password in at login, you can add anything to the end of it and it still lets you log in?
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: not me
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: yes, only the first 8 characters are checked
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I only noticed this when I realize I was technically typing the wrong password for years
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and says so in help password.
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mique laughs
T3/r7/2017-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: assume it is a limition in linux or whatever hashing function they are using...
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: goddamit again majority of plugins didn't load on startup
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: i'm throwing this r1900 right out the window
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Just to confirm, there's no way to get invdata from a room container (ex: manor container) right?
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: correct!
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: No, Daresia found some pastepin (or similar) link with pretty much all goals in Aardwolf and AQ's, some were missing, he posted it on old forums, so just need the link to that pastepin
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Oh boy
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: off
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brothan Tech: anyone here available to help me with a Mushclient related issue?
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Just ask the question.
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne starts to hear the faint sounds of a cricket chirping.
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brothan Tech: I bounce between a chromebook and my full PC. One has a resolution of 1366x768 and 1920x1080, so I have to readjust the windows for communication and navigation and all that each time I switch around, is there a way to create 2 different window preference profiles?
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not without having two separate instances of MUSH. I think Fiendish is trying to figure out how to position windows relative to resolution, though. :\
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Do you carry it on a USB?
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: no, but on your chromebook just use chrome remote desktop and it will make it a little simpler. I do it all the time
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I suppose the easier way would be to alternate between state files.
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brothan Tech: I'm remoting into my main PC now, I don't mind keeping two instances of MUSH running I keep my PC on constantly anyway
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I'm thinking, a plugin where you could set a variable, then when you start playing, you set that variable then a preset profile that you configured will move the windows. Sounds doable, but what do I know
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brothan Tech: Thanks all for the input, i'll keep an eye on fiendish's github
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Bamboo: I accept reasonable pull requests
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm stuck trying to track down an old bug inside mushclient itself at the moment
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I have a pull request
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I requested that, wife said do it yourself
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: in WW spellup, ho can I add a new spellup?
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samsung Tech: any good 2 in 1 recommendations
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samsung Tech: money is ot really an issue since the biz will pay for it
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: money ain't a thang
T3/r7/2017-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samsung Tech: jermaine dupri 2020
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: anyone knows why bast spellup always don't complete the full spellup? i always have 10-20 of them pending and have to do manual spellup
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Are there weird bytes in the telopts help file at option 6 and 7?
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: bytes have feelings too.. don't call them weird..  better to say: special
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ascun ( I'm sorry poor special bytes
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Should they be escorted somewhere? :)
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: probably noone online who has an idea about those..
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I'd think fiendish would know the answer.. so, maybe write him a note if you want
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Sure, will do, thanks
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: is there any way to sub a string of characters with another mudside?
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: or like an object/character name?
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: you can be an imm and restring them!!
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: yeah but I was thinking of some*one :P
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: rename!!
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: I doubt they'll rename to what I have in mind
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: i can do in client, no bigdeal
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: can you make mappe rnotes or something to not use a particular route / exit?
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can level lock that exit
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then it won't be taken
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: you can add a level lock, with a level you will never reach
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: ah that works
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: good deal
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: quick mapper question, on the clickable portion of the map, is there a way to make it go up or down or do you actually have to type in up or down for those exits? 
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: can someone help me with some stuff
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i'm playing from the computer lab and can't get aard-mud to download
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Ports are blocked
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: maybe it's meant to be that way?
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: You know, like butt plugs
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: well i guess i will play off the game's site
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, for crimzon's issue, not being able to download the aardmush wouldn't be blocked ports since it's just the https port (or http if downloading from aardwolf's site rather than Fiendish's)...
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Well maybe downloading is not allowed at all in the school's network? Or at least where he's connected
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: hmm.. https://github.com/fiendish
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: anyone knows for bast spellup, why there are always around 15-30 buff placed on Pending?
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Because you have a spellup that isn't being cast.
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And that spellup should be removed or disabled.
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: yeah but it's supposed to auto, i've tried to refresh and fast, but still encountering the same problem
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's supposed to, I know, but for whatever reason it doesn't.
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I was having that issue with mental balance.
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yours may be something like sanctuary flag.
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: hmmmmmm
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: so i have to test 1 by 1 to know which spell is obstructing the plugin?
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Find out the one you already have affects for, and you'll find your culprit, most likely.
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: do the 'spellup' command, and find out which one doesn't actually land.
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: cool, totally logical, thanks for your advice Arcidayne!
T3/r7/2017-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: i'm on a toshiba satallite, and my cat walked on the keyboard and the mouse pad doesn't work anymore, the button , f5 the mousepad togle, doesn't enage the mouse pad, any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: do you need to press any specific f-lock or function key?
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: nope, it usualy just toggles
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: can't even be sure that's what the cat stepped on
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: my son's toshiba satellite has a little button under the spacebar, that turns on/off the mousepad
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: between the space bar and the mousepad that is.
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: nope thats f5 on mine
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: confirmed that it works on my wife's computer
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: got a reg mouse hooked up so i can move it around, it also tried to reboot when the cat stepped on it, so i'll reboot and see if it helps
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: rebooting fixed the problem, but i lost my pup counter, bummer
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: i have another question, you can go spell/spells int or dex, but why not strength?
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: that worked
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: so i have to run a php code with php script.php and it will run, but to exit i have to do a ctrl+z to stop, then normally a kill on the PID to stop the script, anyone know how to make it so that i can have it shutdown with a command so i dont have to go through that whole process?
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: Is it stuck in a loop somewhere?
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: it is meant to keep running, its a discord bot, im just in the process of coding it, so i have to keep killing/enabling it while i test
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: what OS?
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: linux
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: signal handler, but I don't know how to write those in PHP
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: - 15
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: a few quick questions: Is it possible to read from text files in mush, and if so is there built in support for like json or xml serialization? Secondly, are there plans or is it even possible for mush to support multi-displays,Like comm log on one screen and the rest on the other
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: I may misunderstand you but if you have multiple monitors, why not just drag the comm log to the other screen?
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: You cant drag comm log outside mush client window.
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: Because the mush client is constrained to one screen as far as I know
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: ah
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I wish it was that simple
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: it's a single main window (the MDI paradigm)
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Split your duel monitors to show one desktop? That way you can span out mush over two screens.
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I might try that, although I do like the extended displays,
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Nod, there is some software released to do that
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I guess the mush developers need to add this feature, since it isnt sought after so much, its not implemented.
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: probably people prefer to watch pron on the second monitor.. :P
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: It would be nice but is hardly necessary
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: where would I go to maybe discuss the feature, probably the mush forums, the nick gammon one because I doubt fiendish can add it
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I use my second monitor to watch hollywood movies, watch cable tv or playing games. Pron is not on the list :P
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Approach Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: I could pup forever if I had a second monitor!!
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Could even install a third screen, but no use for it
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: double the pron!!   erm.. educational programs!!
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I put my maps and vlc for music or south park
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: You can use a proxy to send data to a second screen but you'd have to program something to display it
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: vlc has a nice feature called always on top..
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: or, you could modify the mushclient (the core part, so the windows are independent)
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: If you only have one screen, and want multiple desktops, there is many software out there that enables you to toggle between individual desktops with shortcuts, this is cool for having one screen for gaming, the next for programmes etc.
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: .mkv format for the win
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Now if we were alowed multiple characters online, that would be another story. simply open mush on every screen
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: still doesnt solve what I want
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: like i said, ask fiendish, one of mush developers
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I will, so about my other question, any of you know about it
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: What was the question
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: Is it possible to read from text files in mush, and if so is there built in support for like json or xml serialization?
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: like output log in .txt form?
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: more like storing equipment sets in a file and then reading it when a command is entered
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: he wants to input text.. not output
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: so, you just want to make an alias for wearing equipment..
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Meh, that is out of my knowledge base, sorry.
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: sortof but I want to make it more flexible
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: editing text is different from editing alias and more flexible?
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: The alias side of equiping certain lvl sets is easy, you just have to know bag id etc.
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you want to be able to edit the stored data easily as a text file?
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: get all (id of bag); wea all
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I cant explain it fully, and I know of the alias strategy, and will probably use it. Just wondering for other stuff, just want to know if I can read a text file
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: see https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=lua_io
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: thank you that is all I wanted to know
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: There is multiple approaches of equipting lvl sets, but, i only know and use some aliases, nothing fancy like urs.
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'd use a lua table or sqlite over a text file though
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Now if you have a script to auto equipt new lvl sets like from lvl 1 to lvl 41, that would be neat
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: there are plugins for it I hear
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Nice
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Sqlite is great for something like that.  If you can work well with sql, you can do things much easier.
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: but some people said they're more trouble than they are worth.. 
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: yeah I am thinking of that too, also thinking of a external that can be used to edit it outside of mush. And I know that, but I want to get into doing stuff for mush and I like programming so I want to do a few small thinfs
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: I imagine updating the eq db every time you add a piece could be tedious
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: when you have some finalized sets.. an alias is more than what you need imho..  you don't change those often for sure
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Syght nods.
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: probably but if I have an external gui program created where you just specify the wear location and new id it is not too bad
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: thats why, its abit tedious for my brain, using aliases and bag ids is OK for now
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: personally, mendaloth's eq exporter was great help when I changed to mush and needed to re-do my wear aliases..
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulstealer Tech: it saved me quit ea lot of hours of identifying eq myself.. :P
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: At tier 0 before a rebuild, converted trains converts into instinct.
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: That is like ten mintues of pupping during double xp
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grissom chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Sorry 
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: wow the refresh quaffer part of Lunk's autoquaffer is really broken
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: the hp and mana parts work fine they quaff when under the thresholds but the moves part quaff even when it has 4000/4200 moves left and the percent threshold is set to 20%
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: never mind I messed up, it is working fine
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone using xbroadcast.level or aware of what the value of levelinfo.type is when you pup?
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone have a copy of duckbat's proxy? I cant seem to find it anywhere
T3/r7/2017-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone have a copy of duckbat's proxy?
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: how easy would it be to link my android phone to my computer such that I could control what the computer does from my phone?
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syght Tech: it's ok to "not easy"
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: I used teamviewer to do that once, but the lag was atrocious. It may be better if you're on a faster connection though.
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: ask Abelinc how he setup his SSH connection.
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: depends on the operating system you have on the computer. if windows, teamviewer can be a choice, if you have a decent connection on the phone. if linux, a secure shell might be enough, depending on what exactly you mean by 'control'
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: I had previously used mudlet, and switched to mushclient, I'm not seeing my notifications anymore (like goals, global, notes etc) although they are on. is there a setting I have to toggle somewhere?
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: confused on how to get bast spellup to recognize skills/spells ive already practiced
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: anyone have the link for the tutrioal on how to work with the GMCP
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: finger Fiendish. or wiki.aardwolf.com and look for gmcp
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arf Arf Arf Tech: I looked up the wiki and understand it a little, but there was a link that was done a few days ago that had a pretty good step by step detailed info on how to use it. i just forgot to bookmark :(
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: https://linux.slashdot.org/story/17/04/05/1812232/canonical-killing-unity-for-ubuntu-linux-will-switch-to-the-superior-gnome
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: I apologize for asking, anyone use a functional version of Duckbat's proxy, or know where I can find/download one?
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: are there any laws about containing AIs at all?
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: keeping them in a box or something like that
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frothy Tech: hrmmmm??   VBox?
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i mean, when they starting doing viruses and crap like that, immediately there were laws.
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frothy Tech: ahhh
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frothy Tech: there are consortiums that I have read about, some that have been springing up in the past year or so, working toward humanities interests specidifcally
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: when talking about paranoias any kind, this one has actually legit reasons:P
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frothy Tech: aye
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frothy Tech: baby steps
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is there widespread lag on the internet duting the day
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: you can check http://www.internettrafficreport.com/
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frothy Tech: though fraid i must think the cats outside the box, both alive and dead, for all time, too late, too bad...  luckily, various 'other' qi
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: oh right. no one ever asked "how long the cat has been in the box?"
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in which USA state is the aardwolf server located
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Florida I think
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: No one say!
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo acks at Tasty Tipro!
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Now she's going to nuke Florida!
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It USED to be Florida when Lasher hosted it in his home, but I think it's gone to a co-lo now. IDK if it's still in FL or not.
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I heard Lasher lives in Mother Russia
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Fake news!
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Not fake! Alt-Lasher
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: He's never met anyone from Russia or had any contacts. SAD
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I heard they offered to host his mud for life if he just took some campaign money ;)
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frothy Tech: he did NOT sell the strip club
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: http://www.internettrafficreport.com/namerica.htm indicates 38% of the North American router network is down
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: heh, ok I think its time we moved this to another channel, all but Xyliz who is still on topic
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: That is strange Xyliz, thankfully the line this server is on seems stable for now
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if the horrendous day lag continues, i may be able to save $70 per month less the cost of a cheap cellphone, as i won't be wasting time playing internet games
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the irc lag is gone.  Something happened at 19pm to reduce the lag 
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's not IRC if it's not laggy AF
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: at 18:15pm on irc there was a 2m29s ping lag
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: that sounds bad.. have you tried turning america on and off again?
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 150 seconds to get a ping reply to self via the Ashburn Virginia irc server
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: it was Bannon's fault
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: hrm, looking at the unrefreshed internettrafficreport, the router in Ashburn Virgina was down, maybe that explains the recent irc lag
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: refreshed the webpage, Ashburn Virginia router is yet reported as down (maybe the list is not updated immediately)
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: so hate windows 10
T3/r7/2017-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone have a copy of duckbat's proxymud/mudproxy? i cant find it anywhere
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: is there another way to "reinstall" the GMCP mapper, other than using the plugin manager, each time it goes blank
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: How do you set a variable from a trigger in MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: anyone know anything about software system analysis and design and want to study it for me so I can MUD tonight :)
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: anyone know how to fix a kernel data inpage error on windows 8 
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: of course.. restart the computer!!
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: and download the next 4gb update too!!
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: i wonder. there are newbiemistakes for languages. but mostly an old blogs of "10 top mistakes". what would be a best and easiest way to make such page that people can improve constantly. and be on 1st page on google search
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: stack overflow?
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: Well the error makes the laptop blue screen and run a disk check .  
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: Laptop is currently stuck at log in screen could it be a hardware or software fault
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: user fail, type in your username and password ;)
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: about stack overflow, i feel its not like ideas board that can tolerate all my stupid bursts of inspiration:P
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: but there is a bunch of typos that doesn't cause errors of any kind but mess up the code. in js.. if not knowing those, geez. 
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: it logs in but then usually the desktop keeps crashing till I have restarted the pc four or five times and then it is stable till it switches off or the error happens after a while 
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: the first time it happened it cleared my desktop and Taskbar , and wiped most of my preferences 
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: wth. my mushclient crashed - completely.  with the 'searching for a solution online' dialog, and no other explanations. I moved the significant files to a new install (well, unzip really) - it worked. I tried replacing the exe with the working one, it kept crashing
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: check you hardward. memory and disk
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I am on the same hardware
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: no not you Liber. i meant Grissom
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: oh, I see :)
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: Ok how?  it is a laptop . is there software I can use
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: fresh install  to fix em all. fresh install to throw them to the wall.
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: fresh install is not an option at the moment 
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: which system?
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: windows 8 
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: have you tried rebooting in safemode?
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you might wanna try one of the linux liveCD's. some of them have a hardware checker that you can run
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you could revert to time before the preference deletion instead of fresh install
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I will try that and restore is not possible 
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: grissom: I'd try creating a new user and log in using that, to see if it's corruption in some preferences or registries of your current user
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: liber: copy plugins over to the newly-unzipped folder a few at a time to see if/when you get the new one to crash...my guess would be something in a state file is corrupt
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: thanks, but I replaced the install completely. other than the fonts and the layout, everything else was in the mapper/log/world file. I'm using a very light setup (basically a custom alias and that's pretty much it)
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: download memtest86, put it on a boot disk (or thumb drive) and test your ram
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You notice Saemson sigh as she patiently tries to explain it yet again.
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saemson Tech: need me some yelp
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saemson Tech: went through the MSDN docu for help files, still find myself befuddled
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help files for what?
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saemson Tech: the mushy
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saemson Tech: mush
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saemson Tech: i see a help contextual next to the window menu
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saemson Tech: but when I try to click it
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saemson Tech: failed to launch
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh...use http://abelinc.me/w10help for Windows 10, or use http://abelinc.me/winhlp32 for Windows Vista, 7, or 8
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'll install the help viewer that MS stopped shipping
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you may also need to right-click the MUSHCLIENT.HLP file, go to properties, and click "unblock"
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: is there a way for me to see the full commands of ALL portals stored in mapper?
T3/r7/2017-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: mapper portals?
T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Abelinc one of my keys on my keyboard is broken will you fix it for me
T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if I press the left side of it it just pops off
T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: glue it on :-)
T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: the glue burns :(
T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I don't want to ruin my laptop with glue :(
T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: feel the bern
T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: buy new
T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I did but the doctor took care of that with antibiotics
T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: is there an easy way to automatically stop myself from going a particular direction in a particular room?
T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I already locked the exit so I can't run there accidently with mapper commands, but I would like to have something stop me from going in if i just type w or whatever when I am in that particular room
T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Zoot Tech: you could make a mapper note and have it say don't you dare go west this time you fool!
T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: set it with a level lock of level 301 or something.  Assumjing you are using mushclient.
T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But that means you'll never go through that exit.
T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: using the mapper at least, can manually do so.
T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne rolls on the floor laughing at Super-Swag Vinatia's antics!
T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Mis.
T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnoch Tech: For the voting address, is there a way to make that a dynamic link? 
T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: are there dtrack plugins, or a plugin that does the same thing as dtrack but over several skills?
T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: looking for a realtime display in a miniwindow if such a thing exists
T3/r7/2017-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: when using ctrl+f in mushclient how do you find the next occourance?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i have a CLI php script, im sure its like normal web scripts where i can call other php files right? or will it force those to run also and need to be killed eventually?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone aware of a script to help organize and play the poker game (the items that drop in the world). I even have to learn how to play poker for the first time *grin*
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: just use get all put all
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I mean: for cards 1-9 - only four of a kind matters, for 10+ - only royal flush
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: so you just need 2 bags to hold your cards
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: get all.card all.your.bags, then put all.two 1.lug, put all.three 1.lug, and so on till put all.nine 1.lug
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i see, so you dont worry about getting straight flushes?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: then put all.water 2.lug, put all.fire 2.lug, and so on
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i was thinking about something to make it easier for me to make combinations to maximize the qp rewards
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: straight flush - 5 cards, 40 points = 8 points per card,   four of a kind: 35 QPs, 4 cards - so 8.75 per card
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: uhm check your math?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: but i see your point about bifurcating 1-9 vs others
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: my math? 40 / 5 = 8,   35 / 4 = 8.75 , what is wrong with my math ?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: oh nm i mis read
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: i thought you were talking about the royal flush
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: i am sleepy
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: because royal flush (ie 10+) will give you 50 points per 5 cards, so 50 / 5 = 10
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emm nods.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: im just sleepy
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: i should sleep
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: aha, are the rules the same as real poker IRL?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: there are no real life quest points
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: at least none i have ever found :)
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also in RL you cannot turn in 4 * 2 of fire
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: thank you. your strategy eliminates the need for anything fancy. 
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: my strategy is to simply sell the cards
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i used to sell then i overheard someone say they earn decent qp from playing
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also, as you know QP per card value - you can set what price is reasonable to pay per card, for example TP costs 125 QPs (if you're trading TPs for QPs), so 40k per point (at 5 mil per TP), so for 10+ cards - they are worth 400k (40k * 10QP/card)
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: if you find person paying more - it is probably more profitable to sell them cards, buy TPs for gold and do TP / QP transfer
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: i've seen people paying as much as a mil for a card they wanted badly enough
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: which seems silly to me
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: maybe a good strategy Emm would be to just find a buyer willing to buy in bulk and just be done w/ it?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: well, depends, if you do not want to tier/remort/redo and want to get easy QPs - you need overpay
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: meh i usually just wait till I have a bunch and then sell them in bulk, but if I happen to have one that someone needs i will take the profit
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: besides T9 usually has usually much more gold than he can spend on anything
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: im surprised there isn't more direct buying of qp, instead of qp/tp transfering
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: i mean the same mechanism would work to just offer to buy qp for 40k gold each or whatever
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also, quite often if you put a card to market with 1 mil buyout (min buyout) - they will sell pretty fast
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: hey abe, do you use a proxy of any kind? or know of anyone that is maintaining one?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a proxy wouldn't gain me anything, I keep my text-only client running full-time and connect to it as needed, which is all a proxy would be anyway
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: discounting the couple ancient mccp proxies, there are 2 proxies for Aard, duckbat's and hadar's
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: hello, abelinc
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: nod... thats kinda what I had in mind as well...  I suppose thats kinda the same thing... what textonly client do you use?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use tinyfugue
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: nod
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hello fappybird :-)
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: of course you do
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've used tinyfugue since before any of those other clients existed ;-)
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: old fuddydaddy alert
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: abelinc is a right granny I like magna more
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: keep it up and I'll switch over to Biker :P
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how many characters do you hac
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: have*
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those 3
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: he's all of us
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: eureka used to have 3 as well, but one of hers was archived last year
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: his name is legion
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc wonders how Eureka's coming with those eggs
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: why do you have so many chars? to give chaos a semblance of activity? :p
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You slap Redryn.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, that's why klymax does :P
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: that belongs on the gclan channel alongside the boot butt kicking
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: and the hook goat sex stories
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: magna's there to give me interrogate
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: biker was there to give chaos a sacrificial bandit for raid defense
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I've always used Abelinc as a mage on MUDs
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: oh. there. oceanpark's sea-goats were ment for Hook. yes. now it all makes sense
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: been pondering about the mob for so long
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: two great tastes that taste great together
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but are they sea goats, or are they goatse?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Umpalumpa cuddles a sea-goat.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: its a female
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And why is this on tech??
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: yeah, no females in tech!
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Morn runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Must be no females in your life, either.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: come on let us keep our sexism to imm
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: realy bad with colors, but the default imm channel on black is so had to read
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: anyone else with old eyes
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: you can chnage that to another color
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: yes, but not having luck figuring htat out
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: help colorset
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: yay someone else knew
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: thanks folks, was looking in client to change something, this works better
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: yaohooo! glad to be of assistance evenif i did nothing
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: well the colorset was helpful better than lifting and tilting laptop ;)
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As a side note, Alt+6 will bring up the ansi color, and you can modify them to display whatever color you want. Helpful for color-blind people.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: thanks arcidayne
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: recently vision has gone worse after getting diabetes
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: used to be able to see these colors
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: yes it is. im mildly colorblind.  reds and oranges and blues and greens look the same to me. like very hard to tell apart.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Even with perfect vision, those colors are extremely hard to see, such as the dark blue and dark red.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I don't recall having this much trouble, but stopped playing for a few years
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: brightening those colors helped, thanks mchly
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: "muchly" geeze
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: no to try to figure out a better way to organize my ear, trying to figure out Bast's eqsets
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: s/no/now/
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: need new keyboard? :p
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: well using this silly laptop keyboard kinda stinks, but had to balance on something so that I can get real keyboard
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: double letters are what I miss mostly
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: organize your ear... I thought you were gonna talk about audio sounds... :p
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: wow, sorry about that organize my equipment
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You're fine. Just having a bit of fun. :p
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: never a problem
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: married with children so extremely thick skinned
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: well children are all adults now, so even thicker skin 
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Automatically saying random things is not considered botting, is it
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: thought that was tourettes
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oak Tender Arnica looks for someone to smother...better back away...
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: that is certainly a tricksy question. :)
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: the smothering one?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: no, bamboo's
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, as long as you're not benefitting from the random sayings, I don't see the harm. Just make sure you do it in a private place, like your manor.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: having a triger or something say something random?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Thinking of writing a script that will randomly say some trivia or something
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Man I have too much free time..
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Probably will get a lot of people ignoring you if you do it in a public place.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: but if your random sayings make you more popular, well, you benefit from it in some way :P
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne cackles gleefully at Deuter.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: problem is if it goes haywire, people will hate you
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne watches as Bamboo takes Frank the Bird's place in Fens.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: well bambo is occasionally helpful, so hard to "hate"
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo flails his arms about wildly.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: man that o doesn't want to be typed
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: ooooooo
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I hate noone but other people(Mique) arent that understanding
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I love my wireless keyboard/mouse setup with my laptop.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I have the same setup Arci
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not cool to blast names like that, though.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne grins evilly at Tricksy Bamboo.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I have one, just need a table for this laptop methinks
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I know, sorry
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: see if wife will buy me one
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: M=No definitely not (Mique)
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Laptop on desk next to bed. Lay back and MUD all day.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ya, sounds fun
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers with Oak Tender Arnica about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I have 2 laptops. Just plug the adapter to the other one, easy access
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades perks up, something must have grabbed his attention.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Grissom LOVES Emerald!
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: laptop and 23' screen on bed :)
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: nice
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Gotta ask Arci, how small is your bed, or how long are your arms? O_o
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: actually better add a switch to hand gripper, then connect hand gripper with PC, and pup whole day just exercising your hands
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: My arms are long enough to reach, thank god.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm confused with what that has to do with my set up...
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I rdp from my phone
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Is the keyboard/mouse on the desk?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: stop being so sexual bamboo
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No...
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: You fap from your phone?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Oh okay then
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: it has very little to do with it, probably didn't see the wireless mouse/keyboard thing
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I was very confused.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: going to hunt tray tables, wife may not have thrown all away
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I did. I just assumed the keyboard mouse were on the desk because the desk is right next to the bed, and mouse on bed is hard
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't even let the women I'm dating know my (bed) size before two days.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not when you have a white board and a mouse pad to act as a hard surface.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I have my mouse on a book with mousepad ontop of the book
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: so in other words, you're the only one that knows your bed size, arci
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Pleiades.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Fairly accurate.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: but you tell the penis size first minute
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Okay we're straying..
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: you're the one that talked about rpd'ing
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Tricksy Bamboo.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: rdp
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: nice, blew up eqsets apparently killing a quest mob
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne rolls on the floor laughing at Bytor's antics!
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: Can I RDP into abelinc?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Les Esc Argot nods at Pleiades.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Les Esc Argot Tech: Just need his root pw
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: that sounds like a scary thing to do, does he listen on 3389?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: he uses command line client
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I used to use tf and tt++ but mapper so nice here
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: he's set to allow all
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So I just got an S7 (not gonna pre-order the S8). I am behind the times. I need to figure out which apps to download for it, though.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I like my S7
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: See this is what I'm talking about
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: http://api.icndb.com/jokes/random
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I stay fairly stock though
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: How I started. Fiendish corrupted me with his wild wiles
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Les Esc Argot Tech: He's a little too trusting :)
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I have Nova Launcher Prime, but I hate that the theme doesn't apply to it.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: so was RMS
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Speaking of Fiendish, I need to write him a note. BRB!
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: I love Nova, been using it for years when it was on sale for 10 cents
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: nice, I own it, just haven't played in droid much for a while, need to use iphone for work phone
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: hehe, code runs faster when chuck norris is watching it
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: anyways, thanks folks, back to IRL ...ewww
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: Chuck Norris doesn't need to use AJAX because pages are too afraid to postback anyways.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: The class object inherits from Chuck Norris
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm kind of frustrated with the messages, though. While on my old phone, long messages would come all together in one message. Now they all come in chunks, even if the Auto-combine feature is enabled.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne sighs.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I just want to be able to see all these split messages as one, just like I could before. Ugh.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo flails his arms about wildly.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You'd think that cell phone companies would figure out a way to not split long messages long ago.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: a hold over from text costing per message
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Which phased out decades ago.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: decades? nah
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I've not been charged per message in at least 20 years. :p
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, maybe 15.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, it's actually because the SMS spec itself does not allow long messages...
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: I sure as hell was, 
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: Wasn't it a control frequency they shoehorned text into?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But SMS is not twitter. I should be able to receive a 15 word text without it being split up into two separate ones.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 15 words usaully fit into a single message, unless they're long words
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: Twittew length is directly beacause of sms' length
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Literally, this was a text from my mom this morning: "Good morning, Son! Thankyou for the article. I remember how proud we " -- "were! It rained pretty good yesterday but clearing up today. I'm g" -- "lad it won't rain on the birthday party tomorrow."
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, that almost looks like they're fitting them into 80-char terminal lines
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc tries to remember what pager limits were
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: you know they can easily not split those messages, but then they cant charge you double
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's ridiculous, too.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't charge me anything extra anyway. $50 flat for unlimited everything, minutes, texts, data.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: OK, so you pay for unlimited, but others dont necessarily
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Look at the revenue streams from SMS charges over the past decade, its staggering
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Major profit generator - and SMS was added as an afterthought
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The worst part is when they come in jumbles, so you see things like "This is text split 3" -- "This is text split 1" -- "This is text split 2"
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I've known people who got kids phones, and saw a $700+ bill when the kid signed up for all sorts of text alerts
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And regardless, the texts can still be sent as one bundle, even if companies want to split them for billing purposes.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: usually you can get them reduced as you sign up for unlimited (and bitchslap the kid, depending on if they're old enough that they should know better), but how many people don't bother to ytry to talk it down
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The S7 has an "auto-combine" feature that supposedly combines split messages. It doesn't seem to work for me, heh.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Mom's on Verizon with an iPhone. I'm on Sprint with an S7. :\
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And Mom's not tech saavy enough to stray away from texting, so no WhatsApp or FB messenger (hell, she just barely got on FB last year, and she's 61 years old!)
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: whats a good plugin for moons?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: mush
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Bast has a decent one.  NOt sure about it's dependencies or how easy it is to install by itself.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: k thx
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: anyone using Galaban's moon plugin?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hmm today when I do <chan> -h it locks my client up for a few seconds, never did that before
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You recently upgrade? Or install a new plugin.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: not that I can remember
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: still happen if you do chan -h 5...
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: clan -h 20 is like a second or so of lockup
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: even 50 is not a whole greyed out window, just a second of lag or so
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: while just -h greys out my window(as in not responding program)
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Does a note list on idea board do the same?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: oh yeah, much longer though
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sounds like - and just guessing - it's a connection issue.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You on mushclient/have mccp enabled?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: mccp is enabled and yes mush
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No idea, but what you have described has been caused by bad connection speed in the past for me...no idea if that is your problem.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: oh my, so running to areas is doing it also... this will not do
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am on a cable connection..
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: doesnt mean it's runn at designed speed!
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: very true, 32ms pining 8.8.8.8
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Try running a speed test? Can try connecting through telnet to eliminate client as the cause.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: pinging aard is giving me about 55-60 ms
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: Random fact telnet isnt installed on Windows 8 and 10
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am on linux nemura
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: Ah nm then
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: that's what putty is for!
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: interesting after restarting the client it doesn't do it anymore
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: The clinet was only open for a day or so... not sure why that would happen
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: still having memory issues though not nearly as bad as it used to be. Client starts at 50ish Mb after a day its up to over 100is Mb, still less than the 1.6Gb it was using
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: Are you using vanilla wine?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: thats poorly worded but yea..
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it happens on 1.6, 1.8, 2.4 (Staging)
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khwarizmi Tech: Mudlet is pretty good for Linux
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yeah, I might switch over soon. This is pissing me off, been trying to work with Fiendish and Nick Gammon for a few weeks now
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: how is the scripting and mapping? Or am I stuck coding myself?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khwarizmi Tech: There's a generic automapper script on the Mudlet forum
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I don't think they have any Nemura
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: I could always download it myself and find out =p
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khwarizmi Tech: I've never used it myself
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: heh, worth a look
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Nemura if you find anything about it could you send me a tell please, I need to go put my 2 year old to bed
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khwarizmi Tech: I've not done any scripting for Aardwolf but I have for another MUD, it's done through Lua
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: anyone around who works with plugins?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Depends.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What's your question?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: looking for a plugin, or an assessment of the difficulty of making one, that displays dtracker-like info in real time for multiple skills
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If this plugin is for use in nuclear power plant - sorry can't help.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: I have zero plugin making experience, and my last "coding" experience was a h.s. programming class in the 90s :P
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Already plugins like that available, but takes an extensive amount of time to write.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'd say medium level difficulty.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Therefore, those who have it probably aren't keen on sharing it too easily.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: can you direct me to a plugin like that? sadly there's no like "here's all the plugins for aard that exist" site
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at [Outlaw] Mendaloth.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: ah
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: I mean mapper especially seems time intensive but there's a few of those shared widely
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: aye, but not all plugins are made by people who like to share
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jilted nods.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I don't know of any that do that Jilted, but it would be worth a look at if I found one.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: ok well since this probably won't pan out, for now, ok
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: what plugins do you guys use that you like, and what do they do
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I have a few minor ones on my git in my finger
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: basts stuff is cool, abelinc has some in his finger, winkles stuff.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am not going to go through all of my plugins as there are 30+ plugins I use
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jilted nods.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: but, everything from spellup managment to mapper help stuff
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: what is the command to turn off the id behind items in your inventory?
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Uninstall the inventory_serial plugin.
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ah, so it is a plugin
T3/r7/2017-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I have moved to a 1336x768 screen for the week mostly from a 1920x1080 feels so wrong and dirty
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imparsable HazeKnight Tech: does anyone know how to install internet explorer 10 on a machine that already has microsoft edge?
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: just download and install it?
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: install firefox or chrome
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: or isn't it installed already for backwards compatibility?
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: are you using Windows?
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: sadly i had to revert to using IE because silverlight refuses to work on anything else ... but it come pre installed on 10
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: in tinyfugue, if I use /loadlua <script file> it works, but if I use the exact same command from a .tf script that I load it complains that it can't find the script.
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: does it not expext a path?
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: I use a relative path
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: but /lcd shows the same thing whether it's typed from the command line vs the .tf script
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: oh I know why, I used single quotes in the script and it doesn't like those
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Getting an error on GMCP_handler plugin
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Executing plugin GMCP_handler sub OnPluginTelnetSubnegotiation [string "Plugin"]:50: attempt to index global 'json' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Whoa, my comm log is not working
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: whoa
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Everything is not working
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: nice my upload is dead, but my download is fine. as in I see the combat info but I cant respond
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: All working now
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how many times have we told you to not get semen onto the laptop
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I had a json.lua file in the main directory - it was somehow disrupting the gmcp_handler plugin
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Really not appropriate for tech.
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: yeah but someone had to tell him
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Okay, back to learning how to make a tower defense game!
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not on tech.
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Logos Tech: hi guys
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Logos Tech: i have a problem with buttons
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Handsome Anaristos Tech: state your problem
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: in tinyfugue how do I get substitutions in /echo?
T3/r7/2017-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: for example /echo %{TFLIBDIR}
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: in tinyfugue, is there any way to let a macro allow multi-word arguments by quoting?
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: like bash does
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: anybody know java JPA named queries pretty well?
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: how do you use Bast's hunt plugin
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: my mushclient seems to be acting wierd. i hav elost the map gui that shows more detail on rooms. how can i toggle that?
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: which version of MUSH? The latest?
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: 4.93
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: oh idk then :( I know a way for the newest bug. i can share with you code for how to reload the plugin via alias if that helps
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: not sure what plugin that is.
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: fiendish's default mapper is missing?
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: the one for more closer viewing
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: aardwolf big map graphical? is that the name
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: no. the other one..
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: that indicates up down west east.etc.
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: oh, I dont use that one. seems neat
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: im pretty sure there should be a toggle function. though i cant even think what its called now..
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: it is just the GCMP mapper.
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: did you try the ever popular close and reopen mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: lol yes.. i notice there is a help file on youtube from rumor will check it out :p
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you might finger fiendish and try his website too.
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: will do thank you guys :)
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: all else fails, theres always 'resetaard' which will move everything to its default location/visibility settings
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: Does anyone have just an autohunt plugin?
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xphilez Tech: why can't I "drink fountain" like I always have been able to in the past, in the academy
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's it say?
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xphilez Tech: You can't drink from that.
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try typing "ident fount"
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xphilez Tech: aha
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're carrying (Hum) a fountain pen
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xphilez Tech: problem solved, ty
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, you can just type "gulp" without specifying
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xphilez Tech: I have an xrt (s&d) to the fountain and drink from it alias (drink)
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xphilez Tech: alised to "drink" funnily enough :P
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: or just buy something like a chalice from Watchmen
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xphilez Tech: Hmm, I'm happy with my xrt and drink for now :)
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xphilez Tech: TY Abelinc
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: does anyone have a plugin that puts the output from a helpfile into a miniwindow?
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: theres one thats a part of bast's suite... but if i recall correctly, dont help any of the races.. it will break
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: So, I'm trying to get a windows / linux mint dual boot working, and having an issue I had many years ago trying similar. If the audio in windows is muted when I restart the computer and boot into mint, I cannot get any audio at all in mint. Any familiar with the issue and possible solutions?
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: but if it's not muted, it works?
T3/r7/2017-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Yes. If I boot back into Windows, unmute, then back into Mint, it works fine.
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: is there a way to add aliases, timers, triggers, etc at the command line instead of having to use menus?
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: (in mushclient)
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sure is.
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: \\\AddTrigger, \\\AddAalias...
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: im trying to get an alias to execute a command (another alias that is actually part of a plugin) then wait a second or two, and then execute another command (again an alias that does something in a plugin)
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: send to execute on alias window I think
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so like 'xm 'blah' ... wait .... go
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: mush allows you to load timers on the fly, even via an alias. there is no wait during alias execute though. so you would fire an alias that loads a timer to do stuff in x seconds time
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: How do you set a timer? The mush website make it seem like you can only do timers thru gui
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: i think I am just getting the syntax wrong
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I tried the addtimer function and the doafterspecial function
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: and I am already using "execute" for the alias when I build it in the gui.
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: How do you turn off the parser to have alias' on mud side to have semicolons?
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: Whats the advantage of making your alias triggers etc as a plugin?
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: it can be easier to follow the relationship between the triggers/functions/aliases when they all relate
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: would anyone be interested in a discord bot that gives updates (like doubles and stuff?) im messing with discord bots and wanted to make one that gets updates about GQs/doubles/stuff like that
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: What exactly is a discord bot?
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: discord is a voip program used by streamers/gamers/what have you, a bot for it is just that a bot lol
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: heh different
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i know abelinc updates his twitter with doubles, but im just playing with discord and thought it would be fun to make even if only 1/2 people use it
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: Does anyone know why I'm not seeing the Gquest announces on the Aardwolf version of Mushclient? I have gquest channel on, but I've gone days without seeing anything from it. 
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: because you only see announces for the gqs your in range for? you might have just had a string of bad luck of no GQs 
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: I think...i'm not entirely sure tbh, you see wins for other gqs...but only announces for your range.....still not entirely sure...
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: I don't see -anything- from the gq channel. It's been that way since I got mushclient, which was last week, but I hadn't really thought about it till today, becuase I haven't had time to do them anyway. Usually I see at least 4 or 5 gq a night, if not more, depending on if I level a lot or not... but it's been silent since I switched over to mush
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: whelp, don't know I did, but it looks like I fixed it!
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: anyone familiar with Zyxel switches (I mean GS2210 or higher) ? I need to choose HP or Zyxel, Zyxel numbers look good, but datasheet and RL can be different things
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: like, network switches?
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: yes, those are network switches
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: okay, i was just asking because i didn't think anyone did that at the consumer level anymore
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: sorry i don't have a good answer for you on that topic
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: well, the choice is between Zyxel XS2210-GS and HPE Flex 5130
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: obviously HPE is well known manufacturer and provides good quality eq, but , they also tend to hide limits of their eq
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: does cisco make switches?
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You boggle at the concept.
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Does GM make cars?
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they practically invented the market :P
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: gotta use tesla now, they are worth more than GM
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: i guess that was a silly question
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: yes, but also Cisco is rather expensive eq comparing to HPE and Zyxel (Zyxel is more like 1/2-2/3 HP's price)
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: deuter: it all depends on your usage...
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: well, problem is that now we use AT switches, and I am not quite happy with them, so for our new facility I'm looking for other options
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: allied telesys?
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: yes, allied
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: man, haven't seen those since the 90s
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they were big for schools for a while
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: they are still in market, also they are rather reliable, but
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: but you have to pay for firmware updates, also their management layer can be sometimes really unresponsive
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also access to knowledge base is not free, and it seems quite hard to find some forums/community
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: HP seems to have much better support and community, but
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: other than price, what do you know of zyxel?
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: we use some of their firewalls/gateways
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: so you have some experience with their products and service
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: actually MTBF for switches is usually > 10-20 years
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: so does not really matter whether I pick AT, Zyxel, HP - quite unlikely any of those will fail
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also HP and Zyxel have semi-lifetime warranty
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: i'd go for the cheapest then
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: 2nd cheapest router?
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: well, that is problem - it will cost 20k-30k $ for a bunch of switches
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: if that was just a single 500$ switch - not a big problem, as it is easy to replace
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: but as there are around 20 of them, better pick working solution, even if it cost 20%+ more
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: so as I said - Zyxel's numbers look good, but it would be nice to find some real life confirmations of them
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: how does one exactly determine whether a spell is a spellup from slist?
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: the 'target' field is set to 'spellup' even for things like 'heal' which is not a spellup
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: well the answer here is slist spellup but I still wish there was a separate 'target' value for healing spells...
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: if i got the upgrade from 7->10 is it possible to re-install windows 10 without having to buy a licence?
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: hi y'all
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: i had to dump google cos it kept crashing... now i can't find my bookmarks to the shortcuts for campaigns and whatnot
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: can anyone help me with that page please?
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: campaign.gaardian.com
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: campaigns, that is, with an "s"...not sure if without the s would work
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: woot! thankies
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: hadar.ninja too
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Igamu dances around and cheers!
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: dadgumit the info is coming out as comoputer jargonese when itryto paste it.. i want google back!!!
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, you can import your chrome bookmarks into whatever browser you're using now
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: i tried that but because google is crashing like heck it wont let me transfer the bookmarks.
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need google to transfer the bookmarks
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: ok i'll try again. im just seriously frustrated right now. wil go out tomorrow and see what i can do with thismeess.
T3/r7/2017-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the bookmarks are a single xml/text file at c:\users\<your username>\appdata\local\google\chrome\user data\default\bookmarks
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: what would the regular expression for (any one or two digit number at the start of a line, but nothing esle on the line)
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ^[0-9]+$
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thatll match up to infinite digits though
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: maybe ^\d{2}$ or something like that
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i believe itd have to be {1,2}
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: and then what would I use to call that in the alias?
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: in an alias? youd just check the box that says "regular expression" (if in mushclient)
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so I want an alias where I can type 12 and have it do foo 12
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: or if i type 9 it does foo 9
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: so youd do my previous example, then in the send box youd put: foo %1
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: (?P<variablename>expressionhere)
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so alias('myalias','^[0-9]+$','foo %1',regularexpression = 1, sendto.execute) or something like that?
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: sendto would be world, idk why youre using the alias() api call though
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: execute would work too i guess, if you intend to call another alias
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: if not, then you dont need to send to execute
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: well im probably not I am probably going to go put it in in the gui, but I am trying to learn the syntax for entering aliases in the command line
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: and yeah its to call another alias, or rather to call a package function
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: there is no good syntax in mushclient for entering aliases or triggers on the command line
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: no "good" syntax? or no syntax that can work at all?
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: like "\\\AddAlias("food_alias", "eat", "eat food", alias_flag.Enabled, "")" works
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea, no good syntax. i dont even know how the alias() api call works, so to make an alias that calls it using command line arguments of another alias seems incredibly more complex than opening the alias creation dialog
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: well, you have a much deeper understanding of it than i :p
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i feel like it's ^(?P<variable_name>\d{2})$     but i do everything in XML
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: mostly I just don't understand regular expressions yet
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: the ?P<> inside your () creates a named callback, which is unnecessary
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: are they just Perl regular expressions?
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: pretty close to, yes
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: every regex library is different, i dont remember which one mushclient uses
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: but yea, i was wrong. if you want to use the number from your alias itd need to be ^([0-9]+)$ or ^[0-9][0-9]?)$ or ^(\d{1,2})$ or ^([0-9]{1,2})$
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: missed a ( in there...
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: {2} would match exactly 2 occurences of \d (a digit between 0 and 9)
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: oh wow, I just realized if I just save an alias file I can open it in notepad++ and edit it there in xml/lua!
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: waaaay easier than entering them on command line!
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: or using the gui.
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: lua is fun!
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: which is kind of sad considering I am mudding as a break from matlab coding.
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: is anyone aware of scripts that return info off what is in Bast's statsdb?
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: i think you can use getpluginaliaslist
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: and getpluginaliasinfo
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: totally, just curious if someone already has some cool queries to share
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: How do you set mush so you dont have to retype commands and just hit enter to resend?
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: not sure, but you can just uparrow enter
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: not sure, but you can just uparrow enter
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: But thats one extra keystroke!
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: htrue
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: i guess you could do some sort of regular expression alias
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: oh good lord
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: I have nightmares about regex
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: there is a way to do that, one moment
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: like ^$
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: game->configure->commands, box is on the right
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I believe it's game > configure > commands, tick the "auto repeat commands" box
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: Kind sir You rock thanks so much
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: neato
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: 50% more efficient w00t
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: and thats also where the ignore echo off commands is
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Lightmist, you'll receive a bill for services rendered in about 24 hours
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emm snickers with Impuritan about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: if you take mud gold and your rates are reasonable I'll pay you for your services :)
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone good at regex? I cant figure out why my group for item contains Level and lauc number in market transactions: https://regex101.com/r/nVGHmK/1
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: anyone use tinyfugue in tmux?
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: I've noticed that when the MUD sends a lot of output (board ideas, note list) it gets terribly slow, but only in tmux
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: Feel stupid asking but, how do you assign a value to a variable in MushClient?
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: \\\SetVariable("key","value")
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: damn simpleness.  Thanks
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: What?
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: i know right
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: help me hack my hackers
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: deadheads, republicans...I want to scare them all in a harmless way
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: horse porn. loads and loads of horse porn.
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robbo Tech: Let me start uploading.
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mowse Tech: Where are you uploading?  Just out of curiosity
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: anyone happen to know about how big the standard rstudio package for anaconda is, I had to reinstall it and it has been "downloading" for about 30 minutes now and I have a 100 mb/s download speed that my router says this machine is currently using 90 mb/s of.
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: and I have closed everything else besides mushclient running this session and the anaconda navigator.
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: holy crap it actually finally finished, and didn't error out.
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: never doubted you for more than 2s
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I just don't understand why my computer had to download 30 gigabytes in order to install a 2 gigabyte package.
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: does mushclient support substitutions?
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: string subtitutions?
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: as in if i type amulet at any point in line in command line it automatically replaces it with 324389123 or whatever
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: basically sending the item number to the world instead of the name
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: oh that would be cool - maybe OnPluginCommandChanged? This describes the callbacks. https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=plugin_callbacks
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: trying to get a way that I can type get x y and if x and y are words in my substitution list it replaces them with whatever I have set to replace it with
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I can do it with a really obnoxiously long lua script, but I would rather not.
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I see, from within MushClient, a gui menu for subs?
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: yeah that is what I want
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: idk but keep me "us" posted. seems useful.
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: well if I can't find something that does it pretty simply I might write it up as a plugin
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but I don't know if I would have the time to maintain it
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: hmm looks like the replace function might serve this purpose
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: yeah I can write something up for this pretty easy I think, but I'll need to think about some implementation details first
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: it will basically involve a "master alias" that takes in literally everything you type at the command line and parses it through a regular expression search and replace function before returning it to the command line with a sendto.execute
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: will need to have some sort of on/off switch for it that is low-level either a hotbutton or an escape code or something
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: otherwise if it screws up it could get stuck with no way to turn it off short of disabling or deleting the alias.
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: note to self do not make an alias that takes all input from commandline and sends it to execute, it will create an endless loop.
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: WHY would you do that??!!
T3/r7/2017-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: Anyway to limit how often a trigger fires in a time period?
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Howls Tech: im having issues with the android app, any help please?
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what sort of issues
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Howls Tech: i cant figure out how to create on screen shortcuts
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just press and hold i think
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Howls Tech: it crashes when i do long presses
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Howls Tech: new phone too
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: try the blowtorch test version amybe
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: afaik the developer has been inactive so blowtorch hasn't been updated for a while
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Howls Tech: is that on the app store or online
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Howls Tech: thank you so much, blowtorch works very well
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: i'm wanting to set up a small webserver on a computer in my home and i need to do all the port routing and dyndns and all that happy crap - can anyone recommend a website or place that i can use to pretend i'm somewhere else trying to view my website? a free shell with basic user access would be fine for this purpose, but the ones i've tried are rudimentary to the point of not even having lynx or telnet
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: understandable, i suspect, but there's gotta be a tool for this purpose somewhere, i just haven't found it
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: i know about places where you can check open ports, but i need a little bit more than that
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: You could abuse the crap out of google translate or the w3c validator or some such service by ignoring everything it does but the fetch.
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: haha! that's a clever and fun idea, thank you - yeah, i basically just need to make sure my box actually serves pages, nothing more than that, so that would work
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Or just wait 15 minutes or so for the WP hack attempts to start flowing in.
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: heheh
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: i once had a wiki for a small mu* i ran for some friends, then at one point my connection seemed like it was permanently choking and my hard drive kept filling up... it took me a while to figure out that robots were adding tons of useless crap to my wiki for god only knows what reason
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: it didn't even look like it was trying to add code... it was just adding paragraphs of nonsense
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: not sure if it was trying a long-term buffer override of some kind on my slow connection or if it was just some dumb script some kiddie wrote to get his rocks off
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I noticed the room number IDs dont appear to always be 1 from their exit room ID. Is there a pattern to the room ID ordering?
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: depends on how the builder created the area I thinl
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: you know, it's easy to cognitively handle 'i think this should work but it doesn't', but there's a certain nebulous horror that comes with 'i know for a fact that i haven't taken the steps to make this work properly, and yet it works perfectly'
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: i mean, yes... it's great that it works... but it s h o u l d n ' t
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: I live in a constant state of that second one, mostly. Though it's more of "I have no idea what I am doing yet somehow it seems to be working' and then constant fear the whole thing is going to fall down around me like a poorly constructed card house.
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: hahahaha, i know, right?
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: my dad asked me to set up foldingome on my linux box and i'm doing it headlessly in a terminal and i'm quite sure i never got around to installing the nvidia drivers properly, but here we are... folding
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: i guess maybe those default debian drivers are better than i thought
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: folding@home*
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: that's probably what's up. I haven't messed with Debian any, but I know I didn't install -any- drivers on my laptop that has ubuntu in it, and everything...mostly...works fine.
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: and on a box that's a mismatched amalgamation of a million different packages i've installed over time while flailing about
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: other than it's an ancient hunk of junk with corrupted memory and somehow the fan won't run unless you sit in the bios for 10 minutes at bootup before exiting without saving changes. But I'm -fairly- certain that's not ubuntu's fault.
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: yeah, and the folding software itself got way better than it was the last time i tried it in linux. it used to be a nightmare
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: wtf, hahahah
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: poor thing
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: I have no freakin idea what it's problem is
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: I got a new laptop last week for my birthday, so I have plenty of time to just take it apart and work on it now
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: the cpu fan didn't work on my server for we don't even know how long, my dad thinks it may -never- have worked, the box just does so little that it was never an issue
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: but first I have to figure out how to use win10.
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: if you're moving from win7, i think you're in for a pleasant surprise. i was afraid to move to 10 because 7 was so solid as windows goes
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: but i wouldn't go back now
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: see that's what's so weird is like, I know the fan operates. It turns on and stuff. it just won't turn on normally. when ubuntu loads, if you haven't done the bios trick, it stops and won't start again
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: oh, haha. no, I'm not upgrading from 7
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: ahh, haha
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: my other computer is so old it still had one of the first editions of Vista
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: before I put linux on it
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: that's so weird. yeah, i have no idea what could be going on there, other than maybe some kind of ... i dunno, your board is too obscure for the OS to know what to do or something, but that's a long shot
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: I haven't had a new computer in probably 10 or 12 years. I don't know, I wasn't really in to software when I got my last one so I didn't care. 
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: yeah, that's all I can figure. my new laptop doesn't even HAVE a fan
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: whoa
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: so maybe it's having a conflict that the bios over rides, given enough time. ubuntu thinks there is no fan, bios knows there is, etc. idk
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: i think your computer might be haunted by a semi-benevolent spirit that feeds on the constant background fear that it's going to explode at any time
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: if that's the case, that has got to be the -fattest- spirit ever
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: hahahah
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: dont go around hurting its feelings now
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Any idea how to chase what's causing blank lines after prompt, getting blank line after mud tick
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: is your system set up for the extra tick info? if it's gaging the line but not removing it completely you could end up with a stray blank line.
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: removed extra info on tick, still display blank line after tick
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: hrm. do you have anything that fires on the tick? Any requests, or triggers that send info that gets gagged from your main output?
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I honestly have no idea, it could be case, if only way to check it to check every plugin etc. it's not worth my time, just thought there's some way to see what's requesting the info in that case rather then legwork through plugins
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: that, I don't know. I know in mudlet you could run a search, but I've never seen something similar in mush.
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: ctrl-alt-T
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: if all that feed from TRACE is checked on mud tick I'm screwed lol
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just turn it on just before tick :)
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yeah, I know, half the plugins pop up on tick
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Or rather pretty much every plugin is listed on tick
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imparsable HazeKnight Tech: anyone around familiar with the aliases file in mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: abelinc of course
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imparsable HazeKnight Tech: is he around though
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: always
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: even when he's not
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khwarizmi Tech: Be aware that Aardwolf has its own alias system
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: so does abelinc
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: and he's superior to aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imparsable HazeKnight Tech: test
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: I'm trying to get my heal trigger based off bprompt working and the trigger fires off multiple quaffs right behind each other instead of just one.  What am I doing wrong?
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: The whole thing. I think that's considered botting!
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: Really? Just keeping silly me alive?
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: It's what I think at least. Don't mind me (:
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: You need to make the trigger lock itself out when it registers low health
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: You then make the healing message text re-enable the trigger
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: otherwise, it will try to quaff every time that prompt shows up on screen
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: Lock itself? how?
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: thats exactly whats happening
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Either use a status variable and an if check, or use enabletrigger() function
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: that sounds complicated
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: in my case, when my prompt shows up with low hp, it checks to see if stat_heal is 0.  If so, it sets stat_heal to 1, and then tries to quaff.  If stat_heal is already 1, the trigger exits
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: the healing message text then sets stat_heal back to 0
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: it works reliably, but you can do it with enabletrigger() as well
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: Thank you! You damn near spelled it out for me
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: if my health is low, I type quaff heal and hit enter
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Your auto-mana will work exactly the same way
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: couldn't you just use the gmcp instead of the prompt? wouldn't that make it a little eaiser, because it wouldn't be firing on every bprompt?
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: fair warning - if you afk in an aggro room with that trigger, it's going to be botting, and that's a bad deal.
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: gmcp seems complicated
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I was thinking about setting up some sort of an autocast/autoquaff thing that automatically disabled if no actual user inputs have occurred in the last 60 seconds and auto turned itself back on once any actual user input occurred
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but figuring out how to differentiate between stuff I type and stuff that itself came out of a trigger or plugin (like spellup one) would be annoying.
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Pleiades, how does that manual quaffing work when not SH with 84k HP -- any tough CP quest situations during levels 1 to 185 
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: arrow up and enter
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what is frightening, going linkdead in the Nyne portal-section norecall sections where angry mobs respawn - no quaffing, no recalling - only HP
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if you want to test how badly those quaff triggers were coded, Demon's Flight in Crynn 
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: Anything awesome you're  doing with MushClient. I'm trying to think of something fun... and I'm striking out.
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: 20 watts  rms enough for  a desktop subwoofer in a 2.1 setup?
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: if its really 20 watts rms, its much more than enough
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: thanks Zetkax
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: whos finger got a working SnD?
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: lunk has one
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: How would I go about using gmcp to pull lets say current hp?
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Do you know how to pull anything from gmcp at all?
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: If you do, it's under char.vitals
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: totally a neophyte
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Ahh..
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: assert (loadstring ("charbase = " .. getStats ("char"))) () 
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: assert (loadstring ("charbase = " .. getStats ("char"))) () ;require "tprint";tprint (charbase)
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: I think I'm in love with you
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Uh oh
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: that uses the Gmcp info, you still need the getStats :)
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: function getStats (what);  result, value = CallPlugin("3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264","gmcpval", what);  return value
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: why does call plugin get assigned to result and value?
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: (trying to learn)
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: anyone know how, in python to get multiple slices?
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: as in, I want to do something like X = num[:,1:5] but skip 3
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: seem to remember seeing an example, looking
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: only example I saw was list comprehension
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: or num[:3] + num[4]
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: not remember what the ,1 was
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: its actuall a list of lists
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: not sure that would suffice
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: so you don't want the 3rd list?
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: or the 3rd item in every list
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: because you can list.pop(3)
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: probably not helping he
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I should specify that num is a numpy.ndarray
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ah
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: see some examples here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19286657/index-all-except-one-item-in-python
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: a few with numpy
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I got it I think
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: X = num[:,(1,3,4)]
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ah yup
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jamieson Tech: anyone use the official android client
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jamieson Tech: i csnt fifure out how to get into the settings
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drokith Tech: how does one make a Lua math.floor calculated average into 1 decimal point?
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drokith Tech: I guess even make a number with multiple dp's into 1 dp
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: math.floor(num * 10) / 10
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drokith Tech: must be a way to round to 1 dp in Lua as it's such a number driven script language
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drokith Tech: can anyone tell me why both 'x = 19.278 math.floor (x) print (x)' AND 'x = 19.278 math.ceil (x) print (x)' both print 19.278 instead of 19 and 20?
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: not sure, but maybe the functions return the rounded value
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You aren't assigning the value back to x
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: because you are prining x not math.floor(x) you would need to reassign the variable
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: or throw the math.*(x) into the print
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: basically you would want to do x=19.278 x=math.floor(x) print (x)
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drokith Tech: ty, got it thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: --help
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: erm meant to history
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Just no.
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: do you need help with that
T3/r7/2017-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: hehe nope... i knew there was a conversation earlier that would help me with one of my scripts
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: https://xkcd.com/327/
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: why is my blowtorch maps looking ugly in unregocnized characters? i use mush and SnD, but its in for repaires
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: can i fix it?
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Try changing your maptype
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: i want maps to be constructed in lines of !!!!
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: ty Menda
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: my pc is in for repaires*
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: I wonder how common is faulty power supplies in general. After 4 months a brand new custom gaming rig struggles to power up, I guess overclocking your GPU does that, with increased PCI express voltage.
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Custom made gaming rig or stock?
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Never buy gaming rig stock, they love to ditch shitty power supplies
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: custom, i chose the parts, the pc shop only installed motherboard and wiring in the atx case, i did the rest
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Nod, but i saw ever part was brand new myself
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: every
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: just odd the psu broke so early
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joakim Tech: Happened to me once as well
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: What's your gfx looking like?
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joakim Tech: Are you sure the PSU is beefy enough for what you're running on it?
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stronger gives Joakim a nod, saying, "OK".
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: so its possibl
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Geforce Gtx 1050 ti
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joakim Tech: I was overloading it. Wattage is tricky to calculate sometimes
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: It could just been faulty PSU, though nowdays it's more rare to get stuck with faulty PSU's
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: yip Joakim, i have a 450 psu, more then enough, i checked the gpu requirements prior
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: 450W PSU is definetly reason why it burned down lol
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Unless your rig is 10year old
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: my gpu only need 350 on the bod
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: my gpu only need 350 on the box
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I ran 700W PSU's for my old rig, it never died in 6 years duration, it's still good boxed up
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: i used msi afterburner to increase gpu core clock and ram, didnt fiddle with voltage however
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Unless your technician and know how to stress tech your rig, don't believe that crap
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: 700 is allot
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I burned down 2 PSU's because some halfassed idiot kept telling me I don't need more then 250W
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I ignored him, bought 500W, and never needed to get another one
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joakim Tech: CPUs dissipate a lot of power these days
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I'd not consider anything below 750W nowdays for decent gaming rig
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: nod, i dont have faith in that young technicians know how
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joakim Tech: Agree with Khannon. It might be a bit more than you need, but safer is better.
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: it's better to stay above water and be in constant drown range with PSU's
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: or*
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: isn't it a bit overspecced to play aard?
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: good to know, might get another gtx 1050 ti for SLI setup, then i prolly need more wattage
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: you ran 1050 ti with 450W?
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Heh Ullin, i play other games mainly, while aard is minimised waiting for quests, yes Khannon
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: That'a like stabbing your poor PSU in heart :P
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stronger chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: every time i stand bare foot on my tiled floor, anywhere i touch my pc case i get i mild shock
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: anyone above 980 ti and any dual gfx's don't go below 750W
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: earthing problem?
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: if you custom made it you didn't earth case
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: then it was the techs fault or factory faulted psu
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stronger gives Khannon a nod, saying, "OK".
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: i will faint if i owned 980
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: why? 980 ti is still very good
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: so far my msi gamers X factory overclocked edition is handling AAA games pretty good at 1080p
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: i dont have 980 i have the ddr5 1050 ti
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: So you had overclocked setup with 450W :>
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: oh my
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: well if it gives me issues again i will get 700 psu
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: it will
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: ai caramba
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: 450W can run the setup, but not handle constant stress level
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: 700 psu ok for dual 1050?
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joakim Tech: It's probably better if you get one now.
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: nod, abit late now, the pc shop only open on tuesday, so i will receive the new 450 instaled
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: off 9999999999999999999
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: just curious- have they added any graphical features to the cards or its just the speed that gets increased?
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Back in day I remember playing DA:1/2 series I literally heard through 24h gaming how PSU just burned away on maximum stress
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: And those tech guys, are ever gonna tell you, yes 450W is all you need to RUN your setup, but they are not stress testers they don't count in that factor
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: core clock and ram is overclocked also added shaders
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i remember switching a card the old days and suddenly morrowind become much much prettier.
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stronger is agreeing with that Khannon person again...
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: isnt morrowind like abit retro
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i mean, it just had reflections and water and shine. something like that. but the card before that didnt do that. i mean.. heck. i dont know what i mean really:)
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: i know wht you mean
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. 980 to 1080, there is nothing extra - just the speed?
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: There's a lot of extra between 980 1080
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: yes and better architecture
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: the 1000 series got quite a better gpu architecture that handles the pipeline raw amount better
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-980-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1080/2576vs3603
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Khannon, I use game debate website for viewing different gpu comparrisons, just google 980 versus 1080 game debate, they have informative info and user comments, pretty neat geek site
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Oh yeah, I know I use many different sites, that once just brings raw details up for easy compare
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stronger crosses her arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I mainly bought my new gaming rig for OW, and here I am grinding away text MMO
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: The best grind there is
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: never really liked ati graphic cards made by amd
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I think I'm months AWOL after this grind
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: OW ?
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Overwatch
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: btw Hwuajajil, i love retro games sooo much, im into Nintento entertainment system, Snes, N64, ps 1 and 2. Doh, overwatch, my bad
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: thats systems got allot of quality titles
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: But im a pc gamer firstly
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: currently my MotherBoard is ddr3 pci slot, i guess buying a ddr 5 pci slot motherboard just for my ddr5 gpu wont even boost fps by 20percent?
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: off
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: i had the silliest argument with my fried, he said a ddr5 gpu wont work on a ddr3 pci motherboard, heh mine is working perfectly, just not sure how many frames per second im wasting
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: cant be that substantual
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: you know ddr ram totally different from gddr ram( DDR is system ram, GDDR is graphics ram)
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: i mean gddr :P
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: the pci express slot is either gddr 2,3 or 5
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: ddr3 2166 or something is not much faster as ddr3 1660 gaming wise
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: also overclocking ram chips yields very little for gaming
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: even 1333 is enough
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: few latest games only need  8 gig system ram
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: i have 8gb ram, not upgrading to 16 very soon, a waste of sitting ram
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: When doing Execute(), how do I hide/gag the output?
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: ommit from  output must must    must 
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: be ticked
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: when using shift ctrl 8 in mush for triggr window
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: 20k qp for quality plugin that shows countdown timers graphically in a miniwin. 20k because it has to be beautiful and neat. and updateable when the author drops dead and cant do this anymore.
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: pst first if youre up for the job. dont write it before we talk:)
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: ok. the hardware nerds have entered the world of .. i even dont know the word.. wine tasting, audiophiles, crystals.. i mean "ryzen, is it "smoother" than i-s"
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: How do I make circular gauges in mush?
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: seems like WindowArc() would be involved, but not sure how to get it to work....
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There's a tutorial on guages written by Nick, I think.
T3/r7/2017-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I forget if he included circular gauges.
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyone have suggestions for a decent cheap headset? i have ld g230 and a part broke on it that i cant find a replacement part for, so i was just going to pick up a new headset
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Leveling Wonder Tech: anyone know about asus g750jw
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: who besides lunk and nokfah got a working SnD?
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What's wrong with those two?
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hardly think anyone wants to reinvent the wheel.
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: im trying to download them through cell, and those 2 websites failed to load correctly
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Why are you trying to download them through cell?
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: my pc is in for repaires, hd is formatted even
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But you couldn't use it on your cell because MUSH doesn't run on your cell...
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joakim Tech: I'm surprised github doesn't load on cell!
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: im using opera mini and uc browser atm on cell
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I use Pyrope for my browser. :p
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: will try ty
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slinks Tech: Hi - I was hoping someone could help me out. I used to have a tick timer bar on the bottom of Mushclient, but it has mysteriously vanished. Anyone know how to get it back?
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: i use mush and SnD on pc, im just downloading it now for when pc is back i can just install them
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Seems a rather ineffective process.
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: shift ctrl p and add button slink, look for tick timer in mush folder
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Should just download them and save them to dropbox for future.
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Slinks: Make sure Status Bar is checked under "View" menu.
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slinks Tech: Hmm, so there is no "Tick Timer" in the plugins and that Status Bar is checked Arci :S
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: sometimes it disappers if you press alt
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: my tick timer also vanished knce
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: np
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slinks Tech: Oh, I found it in the plugins! Thanks so much Cackle and Arci! :) 
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: anyone experience problems with LED pc case fans ?
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: i wonder if the led lights in the fan have a short life span, like a year, that would a waste to buy them then
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: over-voltage killing the led's? :p
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: maybe put a series resistor to limit the current somewhat :p
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: anyone good with routers? i am setting up port forwarding but it doesnt seem to be working
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: it seems like there is a blanket port forward that is overriding what i am trying to set up
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: some well-known ports sometimes are not meant to be forwarded
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Odd, never came across that issue myself.
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: like 80 or 443
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: this is the rule: TCP Any -> 4567
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: and i cant edit it? just got this thing, so not sure yet
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: 4567 is not standard / super-user kind port (those are below\ 1023 usually)
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Verizon Routers have a web server listening to this port. Verizon FiOS uses it for "secure server connection to automatically monitor/upgrade the router firmware when connected to the FiOS network using a MOTIVE server connection on port 4567".
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: so I think its checking that rule first and getting piped to 4567 and never hits my rule
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: ISP router with custom firmware? so quite possible, but then just pick any other port
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also sometimes ISP can block non standard ports - I mean try forwarding 21-23 or 80 or 443
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. gonna upgrade my pc and almost know what to buy. there is a weird issue. my old pc had room for small graphics card but guess what, they had a massive capacitor just next to the pci-e slot. so i had to saw away a bit of plastic from the card. now, how to make sure that if i buy a cheapo mobo, it doesn't have such issue?
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: wow, you saw a piece of from gpu
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: yes. warranty is for pussies
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: google mobo + your graphic card or check images
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: ur mad
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: but then, i clean my pc case out every 10 days, u got guts
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also good idea is to google <equipment> + problem
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: well, it was a 40.- gpu so. didnt even have to drink beer for courage
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: yes, sound like an entry lvl card
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: once I've bought abit kt7 and aureal vortex sound card, but those two pieces of eq were incompatible (but there was only problem if you tried to play sound :P)
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: bet it wasnt a low profile card
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: there were some electrical/timing problems
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: is audio cards really necesarry today, with onboard being so good
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also, I was recently looking to replace my mobo with asus one with 3 year warranty, then after googling I found that those motherboards quite often fail just after warranty is over
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: always resesrch online before making purchse
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: like checking reviews, comparing benchmarks of differnt brands
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i borrowed a hp laptop from my brother. it burned. then found out that yeah, those tend to do that
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: thats why i dont trust laptops for gaming, heat issues. better to have a pc case maxed out with led fans
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or go less gaudy and use non-led fans :P
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: hehe, but looks so pretty :) when drinking
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: actually, this one gamed fine. for 2 days straight. i needed for recording. so after 6 hours of setting everything up. 12 mics, drums, s-card etc.  when i was ready there, hit "record" raised my hands with drumsticks, it died.
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: true story. it was sad but so funny the same time
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: literally before hitting the snare
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: 1 second before
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i dont lie. this happened
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: anytime I tried gaming on a laptop it needed to be on one of those cooling pad things
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: otherwise the computer would have problems
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: i dislike laptop screen glare when gaming
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: glossy screens suck
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: i'm glad I broke my laptop's glossy screen, I replaced it with a matte
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: yeah tht cooling pads are very important
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: you need to mud more. small chance to overheat your laptop. not even you can riot that much :)
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: matte screens are annoying -- maybe a non-matte non-glossy screen
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: wanna bet
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: hell no!
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: this crt screen is non-matte and non-glossy
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: God damn, Planet Nine technology sure is out of date
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: No wonder the Sedna people hate you guys so much :p
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the 40" 16x9 led tv screen is non-matte - black glossy when off, non-glossy when on 
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: alienware still number1 in making gaming laptops
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: alienware still number1 in making gaming laptops
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I thought alienware was crappy and overpriced
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: maybe not crappy, but definitely overpriced
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: that was a question
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: its overpriced yes
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: i wouldnt say crappy, ive seen them have 980 card in
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: wonder what other brand specialize in gaming laptops
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: heh, alienware flag ship costs the same as a mini here second hand
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: actually more
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mini cooper?
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: nope the olddd one
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: not even cooper
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the original mini cooper?
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: BMW's mini cooper?
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so, it costs a hundred bucks? :P
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: haha 28000 rand devided by 14 for dollars
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: not sure raded
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you may mean BMC not BMW
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but that was the original
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: BMW's the new one
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BMC was original, BMW bought them a few years ago
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: so its like 2k $ for that laptop
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You are slapped by Bishoujo Raded. 
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then when he said older, why would you counter with "you mean bmw"? :P
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: give them 5 years, and will probably be bought by tata motors too
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: he just said no
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You bonk Bishoujo Raded on the head for being such a moron.
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he said nope the olddd one
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: [16 Apr 13:42:56] Raded Tech: the original mini cooper? [16 Apr 13:43:12] Cackle Tech: no [16 Apr 13:43:22] Raded Tech: BMW's mini cooper?
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: $2k for a gaming laptop isn't that much
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: ahh ok
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: actually it's cheap
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: my laptop was $2.4k and it's not a gaming laptop
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: 10 month's rent, isnt much for a laptop?:P
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: $240 rent??
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: wow
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that's cheap too
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: my old 590sq ft, 1 bedroom apartment is renting out at $1200 now
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: R3000 is pretty much the going rate at mininum XD
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: lol 2k equvallent 28 000 rand on laptop here is just for the wealthy. a 1000 $ desktop pc will give you an awesome gaming rig
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: lol. and I thought rand 28000 was random. I'm too much a geek! :(
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: where are you from Cackle, SA?
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I bet Cackle is really Advenchurer!
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impuritan eyes Cackle suspiciously.
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, cackle isn't advenchurer
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: yeah south africa like Gladacus
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: advenchurer is dutch i think
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cybertron was last on : Fri Jul 22 18:33:56 2011
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's advenchurer
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: never saw him here
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so's this FireNinja was last on : Tue Jul 12 16:53:49 2011
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: He was from South Africa and played on Mxit a lot.
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: south africa is pretty big, i dont them all whos on here
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Also had funny anger issues
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you've all got lions as pets! }:>
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Liber laughs out loud at Cackle.
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: me and Dyers also started found aard from mxit
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Advenchurer: "Let's all just get along i aint out to cause a problem." Then he gets upset. "Die in a fire you worthless piece of trash!"
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle grins at you.
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: impuritan *REALLY* doesn't have room to talk on that front...
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the big draw with mxit for SA players, compared with something like blowtorch, is that many of the african and european cell phone services didn't count mxit bandwidth against your allotment
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: how do you program a canvas in firefox using html or whatever
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyli Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: i want to make a mspaint program in firefox
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: in visual c++ you just use the gdi and stuff
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyli Tech: https://github.com/Leimi/drawingboard.js
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyli Tech: looks like that is what you're looking for
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: this loks like it's written in javascript... if i get really good at javascript would i learn how this is written
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: of course
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: you can also set up a private with Abelinc
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: you can shove needles in your eyes too, don't make it a good idea :p
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Abelinc is not that bad. He is just a bit hard to take sometimes.
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: the magna guy is worse though :p
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldroger Tech: can i make a spell my standard attack
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Magna is no worse.
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you mean your "auto" attack, then no, melee is always weapon/hand-to-hand
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: they are actually the same ;)
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: Where can I locate the MCCP on Mush?
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: follow me and I'll showyou
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so I installed SharpTracker and everytime I complete a quest it says : Run-time error Plugin: Sharptracker205g (called from world: Aardwolf) Immediate execution [string "Trigger: "]:2: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value stack traceback:  [string "Trigger: "]:2: in main chunk
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Deinstall SharpTracker
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: gee thanks
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I didn't write the bloody thing, what more do you want?
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: was wondering if anyone else had experienced a similiar issue
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ohmsford Tech: hi i was referred by newbie channel.  i am playing on the blowtorch app and i need assistance with an  alias command 
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ohmsford Tech: eat pie and drink skin at same time.  how do i word the alias for that???
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Hi Ohmsford.  I haven't used the blowtorch app so I don't know the format for aliases there.  However an easy solution to your problem is to fill your skin at the fountain wn from recall.  That will take care of both your hunger and thirst.
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechist Tech: I'm on Aardmush 5.05 and seem to have lost my Clan level info mesages. Claninfo is on. Can anyoen tell me what's the problem please?
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: most likely a capture issue
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Levelling messages are not on claninfo.
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: is your clan gone?
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Check out 'info levels clanonly' instead.
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechist Tech: Ok thanks.
T3/r7/2017-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: emm: sharptracker205g was from 2008...opochtli released 3.6b in 2014, and hadar has updated it this year to include extra exp from hardcore, opk, etc.
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyone have a lot of use with CLI php, basically im making a bot in php and im trying to figure out how to send it updates from a remote machine
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: strange 2.1 desktop amplifiied speakers tends to have more bass then a 5.1 setup
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: i think its because it have less treble
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: if you have to monitors connected, one screen is deticated to aard, and the other mainly for HD gaming, will using 2 monitors reduce any fps in games?
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: only one way to find out
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: seems if i use 80% vram on screen 1, and use below 20% on screen 2, there is zero drops in fps, just when the two screens totals bypass the 100% capabilities, the fps drop
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: Can you have multiple variables in a Send Command in Mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: tech %1 %2 %3 if they are inputs
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: you have to have an input line that registers seperate entries though
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: like I want to have Send ("one,","two")
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: like I have an alias that is ^[r,R](\d+) (.*?)$
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: Thinking about it now can you do operator overload and how
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: What does that snippet do?
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: thats the alias input line the "match" line if you look in the xml file.
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: the send portion is : for i = 1, %1 do  Execute "%2" end -- for loop
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: the Execute and end each start a new line
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so if I type r11 tell nemura foo
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: it will tell you foo 11 times
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: the ? in your regex is redundant, but thats neither here nor there
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: nifty
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: and apparently will get my tell access revoked :)
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: I didn't snitch!!
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: pretty sure its automatic
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: is it kobus?
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I didn't write that line I stole it from someone else.
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I really suck at regexp
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea, the . character means "match any single character" and the * means "between 0 and infinite times" wheras the ? means "between 0 and 1 times"
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: so youre matching an infinite number of single characters 0 or 1 time
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: up to* an infinite number
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: theres several websites that can help you learn regex, its pretty easy once you learn the basics and is extremely powerful once you dig into it
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: ? is also used after a * to make it "not greedy"
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: not sure exactly what that means though
T3/r7/2017-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but I tried it without the ? and it seems to work exactly the same as before....
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: What's the difference between Send and Execute on mushclient
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: execute will work with commands sent to mapper, doesn't send it to the mud.. i guess. i am sure someone else could explain better.
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: oh okay makes sense
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: since when do you need your hard drive wired into your pc box for the technician to fix the powersupply ?
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: i think his dragging his feet
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: since fbi pays for child porn hunt :)
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: wtf
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: the HD has nothing to do with psu
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yeah, but they dont get paid if they dont find child porn, and that resides in your hd!
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: good luck with that
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: if psu is borderline the load from the hard drive may be enough to cause pc to fail, remove hard drive it could work ok
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: ah ok
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: not just hard drive, dvd player or any other peripherals
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: i see, hope he replaces the psu today
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: why didn't you just replace it yourself?
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: couple of screws and plugs is all
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: ^
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: the psu came with the pc case, it have a garuntee, why pay when its free
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: if windows, then diskcryptor. if linux, full disk encryption with luks. both cases allow for boot partition encryption
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: as in only the mbr is unencrypted :)
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: what is a brownout?
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: not a blackout but a brownout
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: when the power isn't out, but gets all wonky, lights dim, and electronics are at risk...
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: i see, kinda like in excorsist movies
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: so i need a surge protector plug
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: surge protector is always a good idea...
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: though I suppose it wouldn't do much good in most brownout situations
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: yes, they are so cheap, not sure if the cheapies does the same thing well
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: mostly against lightning
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Howls Tech: im playing on mobile using blowtorch, is it possible for me to use the ctrl-alt-H command to change the color of my name for only myself to see?
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Howls Tech: im playing on mobile using blowtorch, is it possible for me to use the ctrl-alt-H command to change the color of my name for only myself to see?
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: i checked, doesnt seem so
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Howls Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: anyone using HPE 5130 Flex switches?
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: what is a good way to trigger on a mob in the room? No, I don't want to auto-combat. I know the roomchars tags but dont know how to separate players from npcs
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: There is no reliable way of seperating players from mobs.  Other than mobs are a finite thing, and with 10K triggers you can filter them all out!
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Or you can just use consider....
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: write a bot that doesn't aoe OPK/hardcore players
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear Vost has been here just a second ago. You wonder where he went ...
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Easy type "PK off"
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: count the number of mobs in a room. would consider add lag? I know we can change the color of players/mobs. It is not a PK/nopk thing
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Oh if you can change the color, that might work!  You can get colors from Mush at least.
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: challenge is I would have to know how to weed the colorful tags that come before mos in order to trigger off the color?
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Can a client-side alias be aliased?
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: serverside? no
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Client side as well
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think you can 
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerski Tech: I Tried changing an alias ( to open all ) And typed alias oa open n
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerski Tech: Cant write semi coloms but i typed every direction and it only changed to north?
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Double the semicolons
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: alias openall open north;open south;open west;open east;open down;open up
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: alias oa open n;;open s... etc
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: copypaste that, you're all set :)
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerski Tech: tried both already, only got open north ( And im on my phone )
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: No no, use miiiiiine
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Liber THWAPS Tricksy Bamboo for being a moron.
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: yours has '...' in it :p
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerski Tech: So like... Any ideas? c:
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: alias oa open n;;open s;;open w;;open e;;open u;;open d
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Copy and paste that ^
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerski Tech: I cant copy paste but ive done that ecact command, and it only opens n
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I don't know the escape char for your client. 
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerski Tech: Wym?
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: in mush, ';;' will not break the command at each semicolon. but it seems not to work in aard android client, if that's what you're using
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerski Tech: Thats what im using, so what do i do?
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Open each door manually for now
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerski Tech: Alright, its not life depending so thanks for trying to help! :D
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: try to prefix the entire command with ';'. try: ;alias oa open n;open s
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I cannot seem to find this Wym client online
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerski Tech: Doesnt work :c
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerski Tech: Oh sorry, wym = what you mean
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: then do the alias when you have access to a computer. you can use it afterwards from the phone
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Are you using blowtorch?
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerski Tech: I think i am, not 100% sure tho
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: There should be a menu where you can make your own alias
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerski Tech: Dunno about menu but ive made acouple of alias so far
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: There should be a "menu" button somewhere that will allow you to make an alias. You can figure it out. (:
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerski Tech: Imma try, thanks so much! :D
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: how do I make a mush script do something, then wait a few seconds, before doing something else?
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: DoAfter?
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: or DoAfterSpecial
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Take a look at the wait.lua file included in mushclient.  It has lots on handy functions for dealing with delays.  wait.time() and wait.regexcp() are nice.
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: how in the hell do i make a mush alias match at all?
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: What are you trying to match?
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: apparently I forget how to do this, even though i'm setting them up identical to aliases that do work
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: too many ideas notes will break mush
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Asperger's Cheezburger prods Impuritan into action!
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I use 'v' plus a letter to scan in different directions.  So, 'vn' is scan north, 'vv' is scan here, etc.  I have the alias regexp as ^v[nsewudv]$ and it appears to not work.  It is set to send to script, not world.
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: You need to enable regex for that
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: oh, tick the regular expression box.  thanks! :)
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: v([a-z]) will math v and a chracter.
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: from here I can make it do whatever based on what the extra letter is, but I forgot about the regexp checkbox :)
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: that's ok, Abelinc will shame you sooner or later for your mistake
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: You can make it more consice by doing "v([n|e|w|s|u|d|)" as well
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impuritan nods at Pleiades.
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: ahha! you forgot "v" for here :P
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: He usually does :)
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Actually... i didn't
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: I did forget the closing square brace, but I included a non-char option :P
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: cool, that alias works now.  thanks!
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I have a table that is a list of strings, how do I search to see if a given string "x" exists in the table?
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: https://www.lua.org/pil/13.html
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Can you explain it like i'm 5?
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: http://bfy.tw/BISp
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I already looked into it via google, appreciate the sarcasm but that's not helpful.  I just want to see if string "x" is listed in the table, but I don't know if I should be using string.match, or what.
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: as key or a value?
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Key
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: tablename["x"]
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: at least I know what a table is now, progress I suppose :p
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: http://lua-users.org/wiki/TablesTutorial
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: First section shows exactly what you're asking.
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: But essentially t={};t["x"] = "foo";print(t.x .. t["x"]) --> "foofoo"
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I don't understand how to use "if tableset(string_variable) then <do stuff>" to make it do stuff if string_variable is one of the table entries...
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I can do it in cmud in my sleep
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: the function does complete without error but never succeeds to get a true result
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: dirs = {"n", "s", "e", "w"}   if dirs[arg] then Send("open " .. arg) end
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: is what I want to do
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Why have the table?
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Just restrict your regex to only take values you want
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: because I could maybe use that general approach with other things, but not if I can't make it work at all
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: I don't see an "end" to your function
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: i just want to make *that* work right now, is all
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: don't worry about that, the function works without error, i'm just stuck on making the if check work
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Are you using if dirs[n] or if dirs["n"]?
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: you will want the qhotes
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: err quotes that is
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: `dirs={n="argument command 1", e="argument command 2"} Send("open " .. dirs[direction])`
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: bam, it works now
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: thank you for your patience!
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impuritan smiles happily.
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: my open door alias now works 100%, thanks again
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: now all you need is to...open your heart.
T3/r7/2017-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: what is the command to configure sharptracker?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: how do i fix the playing window if i accidnetly changed its size and dont know what i did?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Have you tried dragging it in the borders/corners to resize it? Or how do you mean? Is it gone?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I really need to get rid of Windows. Has anyone`
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I really need to get rid of Windows. Has anyone tried to use TrueOS?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: what kind of problems are caused by having two different scripts (xml) picking up the same alias match pattern?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I don't think the number of scripts has any relevance. I just did 2 identical aliases. if the 'keep evaluating' option is not checked, only one will fire. if that option is enabled, both will fire independently
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: thx, Liber. I wasn't sure if I was missing something
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: No problem, the main thing is to monitor the transformation of the output and order scripts
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: transformation isnt ignored with keep evaluating?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: where is windows resource manager loacted again?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: the exe
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: look for perfmon.exe
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: ty
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: windows\system32
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: ty
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Luckily i emailed my almost 100% mapper to myself, my windows 7 is reinstalled, no i have almost nothing
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: One last thing then im sorted, how to keep last entered command in bottom prompt?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Game>Configure>commands. Check Auto repeat command
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: ty
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Must i encrypt my hard drive? I keep all my online passwords in txt format
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: you don't HAVE to do it, but it's a good idea
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: what operating system?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: 7 ultimate
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: ntfs
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: will it slow down anything?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: diskcryptor.net
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: probably not. it uses hardware accelerated encryption (those AES intructions) if available
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: ok ty
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: I don't have a lua folder in my worlds/plugins folder (mushclient). What does this mean?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: In my control panel is BitLocker Drive Encryption, im using win 7 Ultimate. You can use BitLocker Drive Encryption to help protect all files stored on the drive Windows is installed o (operating system drive) and on fixed data drives (such as internal hard drives). Your can use BitLocker To Go to help protect all files stored on removable data drives (such as external hard drives or USB flash drives).  When you add new files to a drive that is encrypted with BitLocker, BitLocker encrypts them automatically. Files remain encrypted only while they are stored in the encrypted drive. Files copied to another drive or computer are decrypted.      My question is, if I copy stuff from my HD to DvD, will it be uncrypted? 
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Read the last sentence :P
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: it sounds like they would be, but that would be.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Im will be using CdBurnerXp software to copy studd to Dvd, not sure how windows will know to uncrypt it before using 3rd party burn software
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: technically each dvd/cd/optical/floppy disk is it's own "drive" as far as that goes.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: basically your drive is encrypted, bitlocker or any other encrypting software just write encrypted data to disk and decrypt it on the fly when you read it
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: cool ty
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: it might be possible to copy an "image" of an encrpyted disk and have that image also be encypted, but it would also probably be utterly useless
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Floppy's still exist?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: so in case your pc is stolen - if it is powered on then it does not really matter whether it is encrypted or not (I mean after you've unlocked it)
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: my Commodore 64 still exists with a 5.25 floppy, a 3.5 floppy, and a tape deck.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus shrieks!
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I basicly wanna keep passwords safe, and dont let hackers in.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Hackers have feelings too!
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also if you're looking for perfect encryption, look for something other than bitlocker
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Bitlocker is perfectly fine for personal use, it's also quite lightweight and doesn't gobble up a lot of resources
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: if you're just looking for thief protection, I assume bitlocker is good enough
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Gotcha.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: yeah use pgp at a minimum
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Bitlocker has only been cracked once, and that was early in the life of Windows 7.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Yip thief protection.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: if you're looking anti-gov protection - then I guess truecrypt / veracrypt are probably better choice
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well not sure what a person would have on their pc that would be worth breaking encryption for these days
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Just all my passwords.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I think you can assume that bitlocker has backdoor, not a big problem for ordinary user though
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: if your hdd is stolen - ordinary people won't open it anyway
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It's not a google service :)
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: besides for that it is probably better to use SED drive
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: for example Crucial SSD are SED
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I wanted to use discencrypt.com but asumed windows encryption in control panel is safer.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: SED drives use hardware encryption, you just unlock keys with SATA password (but you mobo that supports SATA passwords)
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Bitlocker is a lot safer
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Not safer than SED, but the safest software solution.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Sweet.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Everything that makes use of TPM2.0 is safe
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I would either go with some open source (like TC/VC) or just bitlocker, no point to get other closed source disk encrypting software
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Agreed
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: pgp is gnu license works pretty well
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: you mean rather gpg, and IIRC it is just for encrypting mail/files, not system drives
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: no I mean PGP (stands for Pretty Good Privacy)
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: it was one of the first open standards for encryption
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: and there are quite a few different implementations of it
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: including ones for email, drives, password files, etc.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It doesn't have support for TPM2, does it?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: PGP is excellent for files, but I wouldn't use it on an entire disk.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: right, but as you mentioned GNU - then I though you meant GPG (it is open source clone of PGP)
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: OpenPGP is the "standard" and it is GNU
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Can I split my 1TB partition somehow with the loaded tools in win 7?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: there is a commercial application of PGP that isn't, but there are tons of free/open programs that utilize the standard
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: why? I see no reason to make small partitions nowadays
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: although I think Symantec or McAffee aquired the original PGP company at some point last decade.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: You only want to bitlock a part of the disk?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Duel boot, and backups for when formatting driva A.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Sure, there's a disk-management
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: operating systems.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Right click the start menu and chose "Disk Management"
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I have several partitions for keeping certain projects isolated from each other (mostly don't need this anymore since I started using Anaconda though)
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Thanks, got it.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I just use "bubbles" :)
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I am not familiar with bubbles, is that like having sandboxes in virtual platforms?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Exactly. Just put virtual machines on external ssd's and they perform almost as good as the home os.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Makes sharing licenses and virtual machines with my dev-colleagues easy
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: ahh yeah if I am going to go external I just use the vpn to my campus network and do stuff on the cluster machines or the "mainframe"
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I'm not trusted with a "mainframe" :'(
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I air quote "mainframe" because technically its not a mainframe but a high-multi-core windows server.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: We're a very small firm doing special applications for a CRM-suite though
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, we don't have a need for anything local since we're always doing work for others
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: But having a "mainframe" is always good to remote to
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I dont use 2 operating systems on one partion. One OS on C partition, and One on drive D. My backups are on D. So when drive C fails, i just reload that OS.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Sounds smart to me. :)
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I would buy some storage on OneDrive or... That other one which I cant remember right now for really important stuff though
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: "Can't" lose data in the cloud.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I have an entire seperate drive for my linux system, but I literally haven't booted to it in more than 2 years, so not even sure why I set it up to begin with.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Heh its like 200 to 400 gigs
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: it is much more convenient to use VMware player than separate drive
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I use VMWare player to a bubble on an external drive
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also keeping backups on another partition (same drive) is not really smart
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emm nods at Deuter.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, if the disk goes... All partitions goes with it
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: best just get cheap 2-3 TB drive like toshiba and acronis or other partition backup software
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: better than keeping it on the same partition, but not as good as a seperate drive, or better yet a seperate machine.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: and multiple external
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: if you have crucial, seagate or wd - you can get free basic acronis
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I like my freenas setup
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Gotcha
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: but use red drives or the seagate equiv
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Anyway to run a seagate external HDD as a internal HDD?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: You want it as a system OS?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: get ssd and it's internal or external
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Nah, it's just a 2TB external that's cables are going on the main housing and I do not want to format it
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: there are 5.25 enclosures for HDDs
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, I had one of those and they're really conventient
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: It connects same as any other sata but won't pick up the proper format and requests me to format it
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: How does it look in disk management?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Didn't check it
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: But does Seagate have any form of encryption/compression, because it also appears to be way smaller via windows and not seagate's main housing
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Is it normal for technitions to clean the dust out of cpu heat sink etc, when you send it in for repairs? Its so clean, i thought they installed a new cpu lol
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ya, you should
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I would _demand_ it
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: hot spots and poor cooling
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Nice
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: So....anyway to run this hard drive without formating?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: if you're technician then it is usually first thing you do when you open case
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: should always get dust out if you open it up
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It depends Gladacus. Do you know anything about it? How was it previously formatted? What file-system?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: I know it's a Seagate Barracuda, the HDD itself
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: That a good procedure
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: That's what you know about it? :P
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: western digital and seagate is good Hdrives, never had problems
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Can get the model number and all, lost for what file system Seagate uses
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It's new?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: They're usually shipped without a file system or sometimes FAT32.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well it's still working, just the enclosure that made it an external, got damaged
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: So anyway to access the data without losing the actual data via format?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Recuva software
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Oh Recuva is for deleted files or accidental formatting
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Part of the issue, I am broke so limited to 20mb data a day, IE aard only, lol
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: you can get an external drive adapter from any computer store
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: basically plugs into usb and has one or more adapters for plugging in hard drives
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Yeah, there's no stores in this derelict town, rofl
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: turns any drive into an external drive
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Amazon?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well this HDD is still sata and still picks up and shows up but when you open it, it asks you to format
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I picture a your town like the ones in Fallout 3
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: uhm
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: My mac runs on ssd - why does it sometimes snap inside?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: sounds like the drive's boot table or the like has been damaged
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: computing monkeys. with abaci :)
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Worked fine within the external that I had to strip it out of
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Boot table corruption or invalid data format.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: there are specialized recovery tools that can attempt to mount the data portion to a virtual drive, but I can't think of a good one off the top of my head.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: The external probably had a minimal OS on top of it to translate it
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Bamboo, it makes a ticking noise?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Yes, just one sound, very seldome
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Seldom
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: can be just smart test
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Probably a health check or something
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Lkely the case, Cheez
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Haven't heard that from an SSD though
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: no really, each computer has a large number of monkeys inside, each with an abacus, that do the computing. some with crayons, for the graphic output :)
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Yeah me too. Might not be the storage drive at all
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: well, I doubt SSD will emit any noises
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: unless it is SSHD
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: It's a retina mac - so I think it's just SSD
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Sounds more like a fan or something
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Hmm maybe
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Heh, I told my technition he must earth my case, i got a shock everytime when i touch it anywhere while standing bare feet on tiles. A wonder he listened, they normally do their own thing
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It should ground through the power outlet if it is connected to a grounded outlet in the wall
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Idk, he said it may be caused by my faulty psu, hence why i send it in for repairs, it didnt wanna power up, totally dead
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: it was dead, but still shocked me
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: its fixxed now
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: It probably died because it wasn't properly grounded :P
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: yes :P and its the same technition who buikded my pc together, so i didnt have my hopes up the second time i saw him with my broken pc that he would fixt hings, when he obviosly didnt earth it the first time
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: So PSU's don't come earthed? Or was that just faulty from the start?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Google say custom builded cases dont get earth by default commonly
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: it shocked me from day 1
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Everything should ground through the PSU
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: How does one earth a case then?(Considering making myself a wodden case)
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Unless you put some spacers between the motherboard and the chassis
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it also uses a 3 prong power cable
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: after 2 months is started to struggle to get power, it lasted till month 4 when it broked
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: wooden case o_O
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Gladacus wants that Amish computer action
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: I haven't got many options:P
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Fibreglass then? XD Extra light weight chasis with enhanced strength
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: You have two options? Fiberglass and wood?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded rolls on the floor laughing at Giddorah's antics!
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm a pro gamer so my case is adamantium
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: a fibre glass case would look so nice with multi colored led fans
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well again South Africa, no fancy materials XD
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: How about... Aluminium?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: we are broke in south africa lol
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: i must spli hdrive into 2 for making backups, no money for second hdrive
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Cheap but you don't just get non-steel products on the shelves and it does require a rather specific tool set to form and weld
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: always money for alcohol though :P
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Because Smirnoff is "the good stuff" XD
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle grins.
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kridak Tech: anyone able to answer some plugin questions?  using not making...
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: sometimes the tech people are sleeping, if they don't respond try proding them again in a bit 
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: what script though? i might be able to help
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kridak Tech: i am more wondering what plugins to use..i tried using the inventory window but i am getting errors with it.  Are there some ommon plugins people use in the game?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kridak Tech: bast eq window
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i dont personally use the inventory one
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: from bast, I only use a couple.... the miniwin quest and campaign ones....that's about it 
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kridak Tech: ok cool thank you...so much to learn it is crazy lol
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: one second...i might have osmething to help 
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kridak Tech: awesome thanks
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: looks like i delete it =( 
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kridak Tech: no worries...just trying to find ways to make game a bit more enjoyable lol  it is fun though!
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: how do I make a plugin call functions from my script file?
T3/r7/2017-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: You need to import it, iirc
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: how do I make the 'xcp' command by itself do the same thing as 'xcp 1' ?
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Have to modify the script itself to include a 0 match.
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Then you'd do "if "%1" ~= "" then do what xcp 1 does else do what xcp # does end"
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But time for work, can't explain it all right now.
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: What does thos windows 7 notification means? I got it all of the sudden at startup.   Backup your fine encryption key.   This helps you avoid permanently losing accessto your enceypted files.
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: I didnt encrypt anything.
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: file*
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: are you sure you didn't activate bitlocker?
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Sec
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: I clicked on activate bitlocker yesterday, but it said something about i dont have Trusted platform module on my pc to continue, so it just stopped.
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: then you probably could ignore the message
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Cool, but it hassles me every second or so startup
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: then back it up (maybe locally, if that works) :) that should put an end to it
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stronger thanks Liber heartily.
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: it probably generated the keys, even if you didn't get to use them for the partition
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Seems so.
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: but you could open up the app again, and check the status of encryption
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: also, I recommend using third-party encryption (even better if opensource)
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: They say i must have more then 1 partition to activate bitlocker, i have 1 anyways
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: bitlocker sucks on too many levels
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Ok, will try.
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Yes bitlocker is to full of nonsense, I must activate TPM in BIOS or whatever, to much to do for such a simple task.
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Dicencrypt.com huh?
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: I cant remember to good Liber
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: diskcryptor
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Gotcha
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Can gmail hanle 9 meg attachments?
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea 20 is the limit i think
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Wann email myself mush folder
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you could stick it in your google drive also
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Whats that? I just register it?
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea just turn it on basically
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Cool beans
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: drive.google.com
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: the "sleep" button on keyboard. 
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: On android app Menda?
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: for onve
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: omfg
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone know of a spellchecker plugin?
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: please let it be a thing
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I could write one if it isn't
T3/r7/2017-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but what would you want it to do when it found a typo?
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: so, the scroll wheel on my mouse is jacked up.  If I scroll it down, it scrolls down.  If I try to scroll it up, it mostly scrolls down and sort-of tries to go up but something's obviously off.
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: any way I can fix this?
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: you could see if theres a way to pop the track wheel out and clean it. That sort of thing used to happen all the time to the old-school roller-ball mice
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: you might not be able to though, I haven't taken apart any of the new mice, so I'm not sure
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: silly microsoft used torx screws to put this together.  what a pain.  where did I put those torx drivers?
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: the question of the ages
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: ugh, the screws are too small.  I really hate it when companies do stupid things like this.
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: it's the only way they can reasonably assure you will buy a new one
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: i'm not having it, where's my power drill?
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I guess I'm either drilling these out, or buying a smaller set of drivers tomorrow.  Damn M$
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: What is the time frame before an inactive Gmail account expires?
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Since pandora's update I haven't been able to listen to music while programming, what other services are out there for streaming music? I have never had to look for a good one because pandora always did what I needed it to.
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: abe, your server's down
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ohmsford Tech: hi can someone hrlp me?
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: with? 
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naeron Tech: is there anyone that can help me
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ohmsford Tech: i am on blowtorch client.  i need the alias formula for eating a pie and drinking a skin
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I would just set a mud side Alias tbh
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ohmsford Tech: i dont know whst you mean
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i don't use blowtorch, but when googled, this website comes up:  http://bt.happygoatstudios.com/?view=aliases           
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: like type Alias food Drink skin;;eat treats instead of going through blowtorch Alias menus
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I make heavy use of blowtorch buttons though. They are amaaaazing
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ohmsford Tech: i tried that butbit only does the eat never the second action
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: make sure you use two semicolons like I typed above
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ohmsford Tech: whst are bloetorch buttons
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ohmsford Tech: sorry blowtorch buttons?
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: they are little buttons on your screen that you tap to execute a variety of tasks 
T3/r7/2017-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: like the directional stock ones it comes with. I make em smaller and use emojis for combat, questing, and other stuff. Makes mudding with one thumb pretty easy
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: how do I make a mini-window clickable and draggable?
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: what does "then expected near ="  as an if statement error?
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: there should be nothing wrong with this if statement
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: what is the if statement?
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: it is set up exactly as every other that does work, but mush yells at me as soon as I load script file
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Impuritan, wanna post it to codeshare.io ?
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: = is assignment while == is testing
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: text it's just a simple "if hppct = 1 then gauge_readout = X0"
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: also, it is telling him a then is required.. so he might have just forgot to type the then
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: you need double ==
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: identical to every other damn if check but this one refuses to work and I can't figure it out
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: if hppct == 1
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yeah its the ==
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: but it's a number check, not a string check
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: every other check uses single = and no issue
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: = asigns a value == tests the value
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hppct needs an == to CHECK anything = is assignment
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: if you're using = to check equality in lua, it is incorrect
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: then why do my other if statements work?
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I use = to check equality all the time and no issue
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: most likely short circuiting
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: because the statement a=b will evaluate to b, and if b is 'truthy' (not false or nil) then the if statement will execute its body
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I use so many if checks (hundreds) how has this issue literally never come up
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: I'm surprised it hasn't, = vs == is a nasty bug because it will put bad values in your variables too
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: you are not checking what you think you are then o.O
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: that is odd...I wonder. Every time I use a single =, it errors
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: there's a trick to avoid this: make it a habit to put constants on the left hand side of the equality check: if nil == variable. This will definitely error if you use = on accident
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yeah, even 'if 1 = true then print (hi)' doesn't work.. not sure what you think you are doing impuritan
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: show us one of the ones that you say work
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: anyhow thanks for the info, going back to fix my code now
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I was really interested in seeing one that worked with =
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: btw what do you all recommend as best practice?  Declare all the locals at the start of the function, or just declare them as they come up in the code?
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Lua does not make you declare them in the begining of a function, but it is more readable
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: I declare locals at the top of their block, or indentation level
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: but honestly just declaring them as they come up is fine too
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Also, if you are using an outide function make it a local variable to the function it is being used in. It will save a little execution time
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: meant to say expensive outside*
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: nods, I seldom use anything but locals inside the function
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am not talking about global variables
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you mean local thisvar = placeholder?
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I also mean, local dbR = databaseReference, for use later with things like sql and such
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: nod
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Works well with socket references, thread references, other expensive functions
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: ah yes, I used to do that in cmud as well, it made a lot of things simpler :)
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naeron Tech: anyone know what to do with den of thieves and demons I kill the onnes the task says but it say hint kill kill kill all of them they respan to fast
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: i'll see you on q/
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: kill more and more
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biohazard Tech: Does anyone on here know why 'ackpack' shows on my prompt when I am using the blue color, and if so how can I fix it?
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: anyone good with video creation/animation/etc? I have a very large pdf and i want to make a prezi-style video out of it
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: so i basically want to zoom in on a small piece of it and slide around
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naeron Tech: im haveing problems task givers arrent giving tasks I said the right thing to start tasks but they wont appear in my list
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: I'm trying to concatenate strings in tintin and it's not cooperating. The docs say you do #math {testvar} {'string' + $variable} but nothing I'm trying is working. I can't get two strings to concat, I can't get a string and a variable that contains a string, I can't make two variables that are strings do it. It just keeps setting the resulting variable to 0. What am I doing wrong?
T3/r7/2017-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: Hmm. I might be looking at outdated docs. Time to dig around a bit more
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: trying to use Hadar's Potion Tracker script and I get the error AardwolfMUSHclient\worlds\plugins\lua\miniwin.lua:134: module 'phelpobject' not found:   any suggestions?
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: i don't use that one, sorry
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: i'm using potman and potion quaffer 2
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straz Tech: this is cray, love it.  Help brightness
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ?
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straz Tech: been nosing bout in the help files, since that alert posted that the season of darkness approached
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straz Tech: Darkness: 115 days, sunrise at 10am, sunset at 6pm     season of darkness...  what whit comes through darkness, sides others shivering fear?
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straz Tech: so says this as header for help file..  Brightness          : Varying room brightness in V3.
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straz Tech: so if for example you had a dim campfire alit in a room that u stumble into, i thing with ??v3?? guess i am further down the hole tonight...
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: season of darkness is just flavour text afaik
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straz Tech: 1 Aardwolf year = 22.3 days   yet each aardwolf day is 24 hours.,...  hummmmm
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straz Tech: i like certain flavors of glimm in my game
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straz Tech: reminds me of working on a game that utilized live weather systems, and according to the weather that was occuring, and would occur, the game was affected
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straz Tech: shushes
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straz Tech: where can I find those groovy plugins my friend has, like the hone that shows extra windows with help files, so you can grok ehm better>
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Anyone feel like helping me figure out which ssd's I can put in my laptop? I've NEVER upgraded a laptop before so I'm kind of lost as to which drives actually works.
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I have an ASUS ROG GL552VW-DM309T
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: There's a label on the back that says m.2 2280 slot support, SATA SSD only
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Would that rule out an NVMe?
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyone know the best way to update a CLI php script from lua? should i have it require a php script thats public, probe that with posts? not even sure how to do that properly
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kridak Tech: is there a way to not see channels in the main window....i would like to only see them in the communication log window...
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Right click on the Comm Log, turn "Echo channels in main window off".
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Or something like that...
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kridak Tech: got it thank you!
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: whats the best way to call a php function in 1.php from 2.php ... basically 2.php runs every minute, and 1.php is always running, if 2.php gets an update, i want it to call a function in 1.php to update that, is it possible?
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It's hurt me too much to think of this in the abstract...when I used to play with php there wasn't really an always running option...
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I don't really PHP but since it is an OOL I would say look into events and listeners
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i know im playing with new things i have not played with before its fun, but annoying learning new things
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I know my python and matlab skills went on overdrive when I learned how to use events :)
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: is there something like include in php that does not load up the whole file, but just gives access to the functions inside?
T3/r7/2017-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: looking for someone good with illustrator/photoshop (to improve putty's moms appearance) - please send a tell
T3/r7/2017-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerski Tech: I've been playing a while on my phone and just now got aardwolf on pc, is there a way to make the texts in chats ect ''thicker'', or more easily readable? Its alittle small imo
T3/r7/2017-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you mean com log?
T3/r7/2017-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if yes, then right click on com log and change font
T3/r7/2017-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerski Tech: That and the display screeny-thing
T3/r7/2017-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: main window you can change from alt-5 (font in there)
T3/r7/2017-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerski Tech: ok! Thanks so much :D
T3/r7/2017-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: what is the easiest way to tell how many mobs you are currently fighting?
T3/r7/2017-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: look
T3/r7/2017-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: and then how to suck it into a variable? would you just look every round and trigger off {roomchars} and gag all the output?
T3/r7/2017-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: why every round? only when you kill something
T3/r7/2017-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hmm, anyone use Bast's minwin helper functions for building windows? I seem to be having trouble getting Dina font to work in it
T3/r7/2017-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: how can i update my mushclient with the latest bastmuch update?
T3/r7/2017-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: would anyone who is familiar with the bounceportal aspect of the mapper be willing to explain it to me?
T3/r7/2017-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: ok so there's a bounceportal and a bouncerecall and they're there to help mapper deal with rooms that are either noportal or norecall, but not both.
T3/r7/2017-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: so you want your bounceportal to be a portal that takes you to a recallable room and your bouncerecall to be a recall that takes you to a portalable room
T3/r7/2017-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronad Tech: In mushclient, I'm trying to expand a variable, but it's telling me unexpected symbol near (at)
T3/r7/2017-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone aware of a script that tracks the aarchaeology game? yes, I know the prof will give me a note
T3/r7/2017-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Endymion has one that tracks what pieces you have.
T3/r7/2017-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Hi guys/gals, fresh install of Fiendish's MUSHclient. The text input bar disappears after typing. It functions OK if MUSH is run in windowed-mode. Any idea how to fix the bar from disappearing? http://imgur.com/a/yfwT4
T3/r7/2017-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zvain Tech: I have a question about Mush client.  I moved the S&D plugin and can't grab it.  I cannot remember the exact command to resize it.  its like gui reset or something. 
T3/r7/2017-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zvain thanks Arcidayne heartily.
T3/r7/2017-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I fixed that S&D problem with it going off screen
T3/r7/2017-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: board tech 7285.  Patch your S&D and eliminate that jumping-off-screen nonsense!
T3/r7/2017-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zedducus Tech: how do i make my triggers work. I put in the words that should trigger the string of text. in the text box i inserted what i want it to type out. As far as i know it is enabled. What am I doing wrong?
T3/r7/2017-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imparsable HazeKnight Tech: what are you trying to trigger exactly?
T3/r7/2017-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zedducus Tech: I want to cast my buffs all at once so i don't have to type in each spell sep
T3/r7/2017-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: help spellup
T3/r7/2017-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imparsable HazeKnight Tech: you know there's a "spellup" command?
T3/r7/2017-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imparsable HazeKnight Tech: yeah, check "help spellup" for more details on that one
T3/r7/2017-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zedducus Tech: this mud has EVERYTHING
T3/r7/2017-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imparsable HazeKnight Tech: ALMOST everything
T3/r7/2017-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zedducus Tech: thank you so much
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: is it possible to match color in regexp or no?
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you'd need to catch the raw output for colour codes
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: how on earth do you match back to back auras with regexp?
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: tried every way I can think of and straight fail
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Do you need to capture the auras specifically?
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: flags on room mobs? I do this with shortflags -> ^(\([ADGHIOXRSTUW|Angry|Wounded\(|\)]+\) )(.*)$
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I just use ^.*?((?:\((?:(G|R))\).*))?((.*)) myself for mobs when I want their G/R auras.
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: how do you match back to back auras as seen on shortflags?  it's such a simple pattern but I can't get any regexp to just ignore these auras despite hours of trying.
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: return trim(string.gsub (line_to_remove_flags_from, "^%([()A-Za-z ]*%) " , ""))
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: That will remove all text between () including the () at the start of a string.
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I will try that, thank you
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Trim may be a function I have, but it's basically function Trim(s)
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: return (s:gsub("^%s*(.-)%s*$", "%1"))
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: oh, yeah, it didn't like that line
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: it matches cases in which there is one aura, I can do that no problem
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: but back to back auras, forgetaboutit
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Has always worked for me, but might be on older versino of Mush.  Good luck!
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Can post on tech, but might be you are doing something else wrong...
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: tech board that is...
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I don't understand why these auras are such a bastard of a pattern to match
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: it's literally impossible
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: even regexp patter .+ doesn't match them
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Well I don't use shortflags, could be that there are no spaces between them?  if so you'll have to edit that slightly.
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: can't really edit shortflags output as it's coded serverside....
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I love me some nice long lines!
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'm talking about the regex I shared.
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Without shortflags, there are spaced between them all, which is what that regex is looking for.
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: what would I need to change, exactly?
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I've been at this problem for literal hours, at end of patience at this point
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: my god, even turning off regexp and just making the pattern line * doesn't match them!
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: what in the actual hell
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: how do I reset mushclient when I get a 'had a previous error' problem. I forget
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: does anyone know of a script that manages the keyring?
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: How do you mean?
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: There is a script for this
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: something that could take all copies out of the keyring
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: for example
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Probably not.
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: wouldnt be difficult to build
T3/r7/2017-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: or maybe something that displayed the current kkeys in the keyring in a miniwindow
T3/r7/2017-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: does win10 boot&work when putting the hdd to another pc?
T3/r7/2017-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: speakers keep crackling / popping when audio plays. tried uninstalling and re-installing audio drivers. any other ideas?
T3/r7/2017-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: blown your speakers?
T3/r7/2017-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: nah its not a speaker itself issue
T3/r7/2017-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherise Tech: Hi :)  I'm trying to load my phone photos to my laptop, it says i might need to unlock the phone to connect? what do I do?
T3/r7/2017-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Torkin - How odd.
T3/r7/2017-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: yeah i might try re-doing drivers again
T3/r7/2017-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: anyone know how to turn off logging in mudlet?
T3/r7/2017-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Does anyone know or notice if Mush gets a bit slow when you have a lot of scripts/plugins running?  I'm honestly not sure.
T3/r7/2017-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yes it does
T3/r7/2017-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: for me basts plugins were problem. removing most of them fixed my slowness
T3/r7/2017-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: which of these stock plugins can I remove?  I'm not sure what half of them are... alias helper?  new connection?  prompt fixer?
T3/r7/2017-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: can I remove those without bombing my entire setup? :p
T3/r7/2017-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: what was it about Bast's that made it an issue?  Did it do a lot of sql, or other database / data query and whatnot?
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: If I place a desktop subwoofer directly next to my PC tower, will it do something bad?
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: it can yes
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: but its so improbable
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle thanks __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal heartily.
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: oh.. there is a vid somewhere that shows when you make a loud noise next to hdd, it'll disturb it quite a bit
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: speakers have magnets in them.. best not to keep them very close imho..
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: OK then, better then place it onther side of desk then. Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: check your speaker manual.. I remember mine was saying all cases were shielded against magnetism etc
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Will do. The bass vibrations might be hazardous though, shrugg.
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you could put in on the side of the tower furthest from the drive if you want to put it there.
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: how loud are you running it?
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: 20 watt rms subwoofer and 10 rms sattelites
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I use it at 70% PC sound volume when playing games and listening to music.
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: The 2 sattelites i got have a mini woofer in and a tweeter also. So its one big sub and 2 smaller ones.
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: This is my desktop speakers. The tweeters are hidden beneath the smaller subs. http://mecer.co.za/mecer-2-1-channel-amplified-speaker-hy-300/
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: The Bass is pretty sweet.
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: I love playing with bass...i write riffs when I get to
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Nice
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I feel 320kbps MP3 format is the best, The lowest I will listen to is 190.
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: ooo a man who knows quality in music :D you win points for that! 
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle looks at you and yells "Cash Me Outside!" 
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Azurite thinks she is so woot.
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel peers intently at Cackle.
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there is no "quality" in cd level mp3 music - unless a masochist into painful noise
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: sounds like there are levels of it tho
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: You hear the finer sounds better at 320
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: nothing beats live music
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: more noise in "live" music (the audience noise), and or no "exact repetition" 
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: the experience makes it better xyliz
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: unless you hate crowds like me
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: go with a guy whose boots stink...the crowd clears really easily from your area
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: The Bass is so strong, even female characters in games sounds manly.
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: how fast is a flat file database vs an sqlite one?
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: depends on the structure and what you do with them. if you load them in the memory at the begining, probably nothing significant (I'd guess the flat file would be faster)
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: sqlite is not just a file - it's an engine/lib for manipulating that file.  the flat file lacks that, and its speed (or lack there of) will depend on your code or any libs/etc you use to manipulate that flat file.
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: It seems that sqlite is the better option when the data is going to be modified on-demand e.g. adding things to mapper as needed.  But a flat-file loaded at the beginning would be ok if the data is essentially static.  Is that about right?
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: yea, that's pretty reasonable.
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone have any ideas why my scroll wheel works really crappy, but only in mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: now that you mention it, mine doesn't even work at all it seems..
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Mine works fine
T3/r7/2017-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: mine works crappy, but only because the scrollwheel itself is jacked up
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: is it possible to edit a room's id in mapper?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: does anyone remember the reset command for the S&D gui? I'm told there's one that might get my window out from underneath my toolbar up top. I tried Impuritan's fix, but it didn't change anything for me (though I may have done it wrong, let's be honest)
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: how do I tell mush to load in a .lua file?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: i.e. what line do I need to put in my script file to make it do that
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: include?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: when i type 'inven' i am now showing a whole list of items like "909211043,KMGH,A Bag of Toys,45,11,1,-1,-1"
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: I think it's invdata command
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: and how do i fix it =( 
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: it's like my commands are reverse... if i type "invdata" it shows me everything right and if I type "inven" it shows me all the data 
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: if you didn't make an alias yourself, you installed a plugin it seems
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: hrmm....i don't remember installing anything new, but ill go check
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i dont see anything out of the ordinary =( 
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: check your ingame and client aliases?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: nothing with inventory or inven listed 
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: tried restarting the client but no fix
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: do a search for triggers and alias for invdata
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: nothing found
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: and you have no ingame aliases?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: and now i can't even use my simple alias to get potions from my bag because of it...it says the items are not found
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: oh wait im a spaz they're just empty =P  but still grrr this is weird and annoying 
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: any screen output or messages?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: it just says   {invdata} and then lists out everything in raw colors and ids
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: first thing, exit the client entirely and then restart it, and log back in.  Just to see if that fixes it
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i just did that, no go
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: hit shift-control-9
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: anything there?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: nothing in alias or trigger in client or mudside..i checked 
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i also removed every single script that isn't original to the fresh mush download
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: this is mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: version r1900
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: just restarted again after removing extra scripts. still messed up 
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: shift-control-2, anything there
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: nothing
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: any all you're doing is typing 'inv' on your command line?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: what happens if you type i?  or in?  or inventory?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: all 3 of those get me the long list likje this " 1186499013,KMGH,(Aarchaeology) Collection Satchel,201,11,0,-1,-1
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: typine invdata gets me the normal output of  (K)(M)(G)(H) Dagger of Aardwolf  [1109619933]  (110)
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: it has to be some sort of script, then
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i agree, but the only script running is mushclients...fiendish and a few others he h as there 
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: that means either an alias, a trigger, something in your script file, or something in a plugin
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did you make a mudside alias
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: that invdata look she pasted is not normal inventory look anyways.. 
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: could be she has shortflags on
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: no aliases red
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: no alias mudside or client side
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: normal inventory command does not show object id numbers.. at least not for me
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Game>trace, then type inv and see what it is doing
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: turn on the tracer (ctrl alt t), type inv and see what is firing
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: TRACE: Matched trigger end_inv
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: that's what ran after i hit inven
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: shift-control-8 any triggers there ?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: no, nothing found with the keyword inv inven invdata 
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: trace show anything else when you do inv, invdata, other things?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: it's a script for sure imho
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: it's definitely a script
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: well im at a loss so im going to scratch this and download a fresh copy
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: thanks for trying
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: shaelynne
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: do you have a plugin in stalled called "inventory serials" or similar?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: going through the xml files and this one definitely intercepts all variants of the inventory command and sends invdata instead
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: it should be "aardwolf inventory serials" or close to that, should be able to just uninstall that plugin
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: what's the command to get the newupdate for aardwolf? 
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: shaelynne did you get my tell?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: see tech -h
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: just saw it. oye vey
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: one second lets see if i can rescue my client from the trashcan...
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: well fml now it's working just fine and i didn't have to remove the seriel script 
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: well thanks for the help, if that happens again ill remove the seriels script
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: opened up 'aardwolf health bars' plugin to see what makes it tick, and holy crap.  Does anyone else get a massive wall of spam when they open that up in a text editor?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Any way you can see CPU temperature in win 7?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: download cpu-z
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stronger bows before [Outlaw] Mendaloth.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: My 2.1 amplified desktop speakers are brand new (1 week), when using it the first few times mus i avoid playing it at like 80-95% volume? So that the speakers can be played in
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: My 2 12 inch car subs was advised to play it at not max the first month.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: I didnt understand that statement Cackle
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Do you have to play new desktop subwoofers below max for a while so that the rubber in the sub can adjust?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: anyone know of plugins for blowtorch besides chat window?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I didnt found any.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: That was over 3 years of Blowtorch.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonja Tech: hello. can someone able to help me with aard mush client?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Go ahead, ask.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonja Tech: i have installed the aard mush and the required plug ins, but NVDA does not work properly
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: tere are pllugins to this place???
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Personally I prefer telnet
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: What's nvda do?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: What's nvda do?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: whoops
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: I would make a variable for your portal, and just change the variable when necessary
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Anyone have experience with developing windows apps? I want to design an app to display some images in a nice stylized format on something like a surface pro... looking for some high level advice, let me know if you have experience
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That sounds like a wheel that has been invented already many many times
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonja Tech: kit
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonja Tech: mc
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: mmmm wheels
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: indeed it does, thats why i want to talk to someone who has done it so i can avoid going down paths that will waste time :P
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I meant more along the lines that the software for that is already written, don't rewrite it yourself
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: yeah i figured, wont work in this case, but thanks.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Why is my hard drive red led light located infront of pc box flickering for a mili second very now and then? im not doing anything, its just aard ideling.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: background processes probably
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Ahh ok ty.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's just the keystroke logger Fiendish built into the aard MUSHclient, don't worry }:>
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle chuckles at your joke. 
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (just kidding, of course...but everyone is free to audit the source code of all of Fiendish's plugins :-)
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Heh
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I see my desktop gadjet shows cpu usage never go above 3% and ram 13
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can audit the source code of MUSHclient itself as well since it's opensource, but without looking at hashes or decompiling, you couldn't be sure that what Gammon says is the downloaded client is what you really have
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: from the Performance tab, you can click on "resource monitor" to see a better breakdown of what is accessing which files on the the hard drive (reading or writing)
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Sweet! Will be on that right away. I only experienced this red light flickering now like a week. It was always just off.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and if you want to get into the real nitty gritty, google "sysinternals"...it's a collection of tools produced by a couple of Microsoft engineers who wrote the super-deep guts of the NT kernel
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "handles" one can tell you stuff like which program has marked a file as "open" (like when you go to eject a thumb drive and Windows tells you that it's busy...how annoying :P)
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: The red light is cpu or hdrive?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Im in resource monitor now
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hard drive
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle bows before you. 
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: svchost.exe
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Just that and system
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: OK now there are explorer.exe audiodg.exe   searchindex.exe  task host
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: svchost is something running as a service...including things like Windows Update checking to see which updates are installed, etc.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: OK good, as long its not some trojan
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all of those sound pretty plausibly-normal...every now & then searchindexer will wake up and look for any changes to update the "find it fast" indexes, etc.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle wipes his brow with obvious relief.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: svhost is so suspicious
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: its tame now and i have fresh win installed 3 hours ago. 5%cpu on idle
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: before it did 80%
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: probably a virus.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, or it was simply Windows Update doing what it does every so often...
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: yes but we never know. there are "blogs"... that "explain". but theres no way we can dig into that process
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: very suspicious:P
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually I would've known in about 20 seconds...
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: hm?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: ever since i installed lunks plugin i have been getting non-stop popup adds for preparation h
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You fall to the floor laughing at Not Just Anymouse's remark.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: heh:)
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: btw. after 1 day using old win10 install in a new pc - its a fail. it tries its best to clean up but its just so random what happens.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://abelinc.me/adblock
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Hmm, now when im playing aard, the red light dont blink. Its odd since mush is using hard drive space
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Or maybe mush is so small in size, not like a big game the disk needs to read around.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: wait but did you mean you can see what that svhost is doing, abe?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: or its a ram thing.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: The red light is irritating though, might color it black.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: chrome updates are unbelieveable. they do it and mangle thousands of new stuff without any notice
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heliar Tech: also its v8 engine is awesome
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I use Opera mini and Ucweb browser, pretty fast
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heliar Tech: starting from about 2009 its javascript implementation reshape internet from mostly html to what we know today
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heliar Tech: https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/400/1*ksFQo_CqXyvEkFFcXEtMRg.png
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i had 2 new errors thanks to last update. one that turned a common id to a string, one that... messed with a pixel color value by 1. the last one is insane. you put down 76, and receive 77 when touching it again
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, the javascript graph would be a tad bit more impressive if it didn't cover 8-15 years ago...
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: abelinc, y u no update ur logs u ninja
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: laziness
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: u disappoint shogun and he'll make you commit seppuku
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: so don't disappoint
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: hmm my acsii automapper for aardwolf mudclient seems to be spoilt
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: the map is not appearing on the mini window
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it appearing in the main window, or nowhere at all?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: its appearing on my main window
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tags"...make sure "Global" is "On", "MAP" is "YES", and "QUIET" is "NO"
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: yes its all correct but still having the problem
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: keep getting the <mapstart> and <mapend>
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: and (prompt fixer begin) (prompt fixer end)
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, then go to file -> plugins...if you see "Aardwolf_Ascii_Mapper", select it and hit "reinstall"
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: its fixed :)
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: abelinc solves all
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No, he doesn't. :P
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mohan nods at Arcidayne.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He just knows that usually reinstalling the plugin fixes it. :P
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: rare knowledge
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Should be common.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc bats around .650
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: but he knows how to get it working almost every time =)
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You bat your eyelashes.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne grins evilly at you.  Hmmm.  Better keep your distance. 
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: meant he's often quite helpful
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: "all" would be a stretch for anyone
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: he makes a plan and he follows through
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: well, almost 99.99% his info is helpful
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I love it when a plan comes together...
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Give me a minute, I'm good. Give me an hour, I'm great. Give me six months, I'm unbeatable.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: I think he needs a towel to clean all the drool over him =P
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: abe, that's me taking a final...
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Abelinc is just quoting Hannibal Smith, as I did with the plan quote.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that was Hannibal's line in the Liam Neeson movie of The A-Team :-)
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Handsome Anaristos Tech: I believe it was also in the tv series.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the plan come together was in every episode, I don't remember the "give me a minute" quote offhand, but it's been hella long
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Handsome Anaristos Tech: don't remember that either.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: how about "I want trrrash bags!"
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: favorite Murdoch quote
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I think that one was only in the movie. But yeah, the plan quote was in nearly every episode.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: HM Murdoch was great in the series
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: yup, favorite character
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: face was annoying
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: and BA just pitied fools
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But essential to the team.
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ya ever see the movie which had the face actor as a wrestling agent?
T3/r7/2017-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nsx Tech: is there a way to have a sound notification on aardwolf?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: client side
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Open up the trigger and add the sound
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: well, yeah, client-side first.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nsx Tech: what is client side ?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Using a client like Mush
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nsx Tech: yup im on mush , but cant seem to add any sounds on the trigger menue
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Did you open up the trigger like I mentioned? Editing the trigger, you should be able to add sound.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nsx Tech: yup but I do not have any sound files 
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: ... Well, how did you expect sound to play if you don't have sound files?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nsx Tech: good question lol
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nsx Tech: could I get any soundfiles? 
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You're on the internet. I imagine you could.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: only .wav files right?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I believe so.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: anyone know how to change the output window background color with mush client?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: create new image and replace aardbg from world/images
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: ty
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: world/plugins/images
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Nice.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Wonder if 1080p wallpapers will work.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yeah, change it to something really really colorful :)
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: millions of rainbows.. that would be nice to read text from :)
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle grins at Odorless Nuanse.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Was thinking like the sunset or beach.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: try. just rename the original and you can revert back whenever you feel like it :)
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Will do, im in the progress now, and almost forgot to make a backup of that all black pic :)
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it's not all back, there is a wolf in center
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: black
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Nod, but my brightness is set to 50% and contrast is quite high. I made it this dark for the black to pop, so i cant actually see that wolf.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: h Is there a way to change .jpg to png without 3rd party software?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Ahh open  with paint save as png
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: It works :DDD
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Feel like a hacker now.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: trying to get a regexp to match combat damage messages, not working really well... how do I go about that?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: oh wow, i actually did it
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Heh, I settled with an all black minus logo for MUSH back ground. The white and normal colors in desktopwallpapers is making ir hard to read in here.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Do your red LED light that shows hard drive activity also blinks every now and then?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: While idleling
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I feel very suspicious of this.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SirCanada comforts Cackle.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: That darn svchost.exe
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I end that ^^ process once and my windows crashed.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: My red light LED from PC box is not blinking at all now, I guess it goes through spikes.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: or you're not doing anything to access hard disk
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: start a virus scan and watch the blink!!
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: This last week I did almost nothing, just aard idling, and it kept on blinking for a mili second at random intervals, was so annoying.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Heh, no its a clean install of win 7 ultimate
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you saw the millisecond blink?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Sure, the light blinks fast
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: hard disk always works.. windows wouldn't let it go idle..
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: For the last hour no blinks. The last few days it did blink
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Its mostly svchost.exe that makes it blink
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: that says nothing about the source, other than it's some sort of windows service
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Yup
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Back in the hay day I thought red light blinking means the CPU is busy, now that is ingraved into my concoiuness and its irretating because i think the cppu is bussy
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I think svchost.exe is only active when your on the internet
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: nah
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: "Svchost.exe is a generic host process name for services that run from dynamic-link libraries."
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: pretty much everything in your computer is always actively working.. why worry about it?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I dont worry, just dont like that red light
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just remove it :P
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: you can always disconnect hdd led I think..
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: put tape ioon it
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: My PC scheme is neon blue, with led fans etc. so its distracting
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle nods.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: one neighbour has put a big led lamp on his garage door. hugely annoying
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: and why are you watching case anyways?  you forgot to buy a monitor?  :P
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Almila im playing aard on a 40 inch 1080p tv and a second 24 inch pc moonitor for games :)
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle looks at __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal and goes "Heh."
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you know what is annoying hwuaijijal.. neighbour that has infrared light that you can hear turning on but not see the light :P
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: whats that good for?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: camera
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: im watching my pc case because its my baby
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: night light for camera.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: he has just put it on with motion sensor so it keeps ticking all the time
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: i got two big neon blue led fans screwed onto my side panel thats blowing fresh air onto my motherboard and geforce gtx 1050 ti (which allready got two fans on it aswell) and one smaller fan at top back for extacting hot air
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: weird thing is that all the bling that comes with those "badass" pcs make them just look like some junk from sci-fi b-movies
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: its nice for when your stoned and drinking
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Sci Fi is my favourite genre LP
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: At the start of 200 you had that ugly all white cases, then all black came in. When you see some bling on a PC, you can see the owner takes pride in it and its prolly a gaming beast
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: 2000*
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i disagree. the best design for pcs were ibm ps2s
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: just sitting behind one made me feel so proud
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I have to google that
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: and btw. when such fancy/aggro blu-lit case gets 2 years old, it just looks pathetic
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: while those oldies still look awesome
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I dissagree, for the last 5 years it was awesome looking at all my friends even the RAGE 500plus national lan party
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Neon dont get old imo, its the future
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: till we run out of neon gas probably
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I mean black lights
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. id buy a furry case that the fans would make look alive
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: So if you dont have any light shining into your box at night o dark room, how do you actually view and appreciate the hardware inside
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Furry, hmm thats new
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i bet its nothing new:)
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle sniggers quietly to himself, reflecting over an amusing thought.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i bet there has been even mummified pets used as pc cases
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Could be, there is/ws many forms of interesting boxxes made by people, ive seen the pics on the web
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I would like a flat low lying box, out of the norm
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: motherboard at the bottom
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: normal htpc box
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Ahh, i think if my memory serves me right, those IMB boxxes looks like that
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cackle shrugs in response to Odorless Nuanse's question.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: then i can place some lava lamps onto it for effect :P
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: How conspiciuous, before iv send my tower in for repairs (power supply related problem), it didnt shock me anymore after i touched the case while standing bare foot oin tile floors. The technition told me it power ups fine and he cant see a problem... When i got home with my box it does powerup fine and dont shock me anmymore, he was lying, he did fix it. He just dont wanna say he didnt earth it the first time when he build my box
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: oin tile floor.. I read tin foiled room..
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: My home is not ghetto lol
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: He didnt replace my 450watt powersupply, he just earthed it and maybe replaced the PSU fuse
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: I marked my PSU with a pen
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Next thing i want to buy is a bluray rom, not sure if worth it
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Perhaps a bluray disc writer
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: And burn plenty of gigs on one disc for storage
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: The thing with external hdrives is, you are not garunteed the safety of data on it
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i though to start collecting dvds of my fav movies:P
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: that was dumb:P
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: and bluray aint gonna stay for long no more
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Il get on that as soon as possible Hwu :) such a sad story if it all goes poof. Nice thing about DvD storage is you can case it neatly and store it on your wall cabinet unit
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: dvd storage is not reliable
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: wow, Bluray isnt going to be here anymore for long, and i just wanted to get it
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: what do youmean blue ray isnt gonna be here for long???
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: theres another format that kicks its ass
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: If you purchase high quallity Dvds, they can be readable after your death
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Just take cvare when handldin it
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Streaming is what will replace Blu-ray.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: good to know
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: no. hds
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: again good to know.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: hdr*
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You mean 4k Blu-Ray
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: In this backwards country aka South Africa streaming is not the way to go lol due to insane data prices
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: 4k Blu-Ray has its issues at the moment.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The only reason HD-DVD did not win the war was because Sony cheated with PS3.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. yeah. the good thing about this improvement is that with visuals, normal people actually can notice the difference. unlike audio
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: which is so sad:(
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: 320kbps mp3 is very good, but ive read in forums variable bitrate is best
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: that's how you do it. dont listen, read about audio :P
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal )
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: I got over 5000 mprs , i know music and was collectiong and listening, studying various formats for ages now :P
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The issue with 4k is going to be it is too bright for the human eye to deal with.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i have a little headphone amp and relatively decent headphones. without the amp and straight from the pc, its ok. actually it sounds the same in every way - amp or not. the only thing is - somehow with the amp, its better
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Need a big screen for 4K to bloom, you cant go view it on a small monitor
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: and i cant point to nothing to explain why its better with the amp
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: ..hmm, I would point to AMP!
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: oh, right:)
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Contrast is the major factor on Screen quality
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: try this: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWlykyYwTNaIFBoOQ3cEvKg
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Deep blacks, vivid whites etc
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: if you feel its better than the usual, you're suited for better audio
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: You need a quality sound system to actually hear the difference in audio quality from 190kbps and up
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: This is where you can test good headphones
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: How long till Apple removes the lightning port and makes the phone a wireless charge....
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: didnt they already do that turie?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: they went all bluetooth!
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: Not the headphone jack, lightning port
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: They still have the lightning port. They got rid of the jack.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Hmm you get a V-sync PC monitor now, out for awhile. No more toggling vsync in game or Nvidia panel, that just make lag
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: q r
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: My Skull Candy headphones made in USA is not to bad, pretty decent bass and you can hear fine sounds, Very good noise cancelling technoligy aswell.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: go try grado rs1 or rs2 even. made in usa also:)
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: ive tried many good ones but those are special
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Will do :) im looking for a replacement for lan weekends
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: but for each their own..
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: USA make decent audio gear
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: One with a mike
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: and still makes at the same time lots of trash
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: The last time i lanned i cheated abit, i saw my oppents move in the mirror behind them LP
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: 8hmm nuanse
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: nowadays its easier to boost the quality for masses. and with the help of those superstar-youtubers they can actually sell them
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: still talking about headphones:)
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: We have importad Dixon brands here from USA, its cheap
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Maybe you know Fatal!ty ? only the best first person shooter in USA
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: His youtube tourney vids (raction time) is unbelievable
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: I bough my 1050 ti because they say its the norm for Esports online nowaydays that can handle most 1080p gams like Overwatch etc care free
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: You dont want to play in a touney where a mil$ up for grabs and stress aboput lag
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Overwatch is 175 fps here
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: 1080p max setting, 8 times anta analising
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: 1050ti with witcher 3 - high settings make it stutter already
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: medium is smooth
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Nod, you are talking the truth, its the cheapest enrty card in the gamer class, It can handle all AAA 2016 games at meduim at 50 plus frames... Im a retro gamer that onlly actually plays games from 1988 to 2006 with a few exeptions after 2006, it can handle all that stuff trouble free, hence you got an i7 and 8 gig ram
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: 1080p resolution im talking about
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: You can manage 2016 games at high but at 1600 at 900
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: And again. Most games have a faster engin than The witcher 3, gotta have them drivers tweaked aswell. Many many lags can easily be overcome by ingame graphical tweaking with minimal screen quaklity loss, it just take abit if time and benchmarking
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: For example, setting max frames to 60, addaptice v-sunc ON, makes already a big differnece
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Your gpu and CPU is not over stressed due to 60 frames, and it can start rendering frames into the future if that makes sense
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: Heh, i love to tweak games once i isntalled them, i can be bussy for 2 hours at a time tweaking, collecting benchmarking sheets in text format
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stronger Tech: What settings gives most detail at minimal fps cost, thats the question
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: It takes a good PC to emulate even PS2 on PC at high. Like 3.0ghz dual core and Nvidia 730 equavelent. now comparing ps 2 specs to PC, its very weak, due to low cpu power and ggr bandwith
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: gddr
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: not bandwith, pixel fill rate due to gddr
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Now if I can only replace this blinking LED HDrive PC box with a strobe light, i would be so much happier.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: what works with annoying computers? An AXE or place at high altitude with open windows
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Place 2 strobe lights at the far corners of room upon entering from weed session, and your eyballs will flick open and close due to retina stimilation
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I actually stomped on my p2 with a gardening pick once, i wasted it Nuanse
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is this tech or the weed channel now?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Mostly tech Turie, but the odd sentence with the keyword (weed) doesnt cause for concern, no does it?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Abit Spank
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I got a wierd OCD involving tech, every 2 hours or so i blow on my keyboard to get rid of dust
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: Washing sweaty palms also help for mouse eye and hand coirndination
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cackle Tech: I dont get the latest mouse pads for gaming. its overpriced, made of soft material.. I just use a hard sirface old fashioned pad with micro grooves. I hace teflon mouse feet on my gaming mouse, and i can feel every groove on this surfce. Now try that on that material pas and you will be in for a surprice
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: anyone move to creator's update for win10 yet?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Microsoft is telling some people not to do it, and has blocked it on some people.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: bugs?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: I think I'm on it, no problems for me
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't know. Didn't read that far, just read the headlines.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus nods.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: looks like bluetooth problems? ill hold off anyways i guess
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Odd they would block people for just bluetooth problems, hmm.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just bluetooth? what gear doesnt have bluetooth anymore?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: 2 pound brick of steel
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: My laptop doesn't have bluetooth. :(
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yes it does, with a dongle
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Does have Beats audio, though.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, yes, with a dongle. :p
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Good idea, email yourself MUSH, the plugins you use, mapper database, and your sorted
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: the Data Base File (.db) located in mush folder is your mapper explored file
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nope, is it like red alert and age of empires//
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nice, the 2 gb is about standard
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: is there any way to free the print() expression in mush from whatever gammon did to it?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: print = Note
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: or whatever you want
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: made alias ^autoquaff set (\d+)?$ to set my autoquaff
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: autoquaff set 600 returns
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Autoheal percent set to *alias39727.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I didn't type *alias39727
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I typed 600
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: what is the stupid thing doing *now*?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try typing "echo 600", see what it says
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my guess is that you have an unanchored alias to change 600 anywhere in a line
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: oh, re: freeing print() in mush
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: gammon hijacked print() and redirected it to Note()
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: You can't use any colors in Note() you have to use ColourNote() but I hate the length, syntax, and spelling of it just to get a simple color change
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: write your own function to do cool printing then use that, or do print = new_function then use print()
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: it's more useful for me to just insert the ansi sequences directly, I don't need silly descriptors like ColorToRGB("words")
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Morn:  what file do I need to modify to do that?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I'm hoping he just did it in a .lua file somewhere so I can delete the cross reference, adn that he didn't hardcode it
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a MUSHclient function, not a Lua function
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: you would have to do it in your own file. Lua allows you to set the value of any variable, and print is no different.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if the mushclient sourcecode is available and recompilable, ... 
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz: it is
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually I was wrong, that particular print() function IS specifically for Lua...however, Lua has that print to stdout, which doesn't really exist in Windows programs, so Gammon is using the MUSHclient function Note() to grab stdout...otherwise it simply wouldn't print anywhere
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: how do I write my own function to grab it and do what I want with it?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd just stick an "iprint()" (impuritan's print) function into your script file and use that elsewhere
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does AnsiNote act kind of like how you want?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: it's a bit better, I just don't see why Gammon felt print() needed to be hijacked.  He gimps it, for one thing.  For another, whenever you read a lua tutorial the function they use is print, not Note, and that made it a bit harder to get into it.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I'm against things like that, for the most part
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he didn't hijack it
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lua's print, as written by lua, would do absolutely nothing in any windows program
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: he redirected it to Note, which is basically hijacking it
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he enabled it, not hijack it
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: or if not hijacking, then replacing it with an inferior version
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if he didn't do that, then print() output would not go anywhere at all
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: if print did what it did in normal lua, it would do nothing noticable at all
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: that doesn't even make sense.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you understand programming...
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: in any case, he could have preserved the original syntax and whatnot.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: Here, run mushclient frmo the terminal and do '\\\io.write("hello")'
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: print() is meant to be used in a console program...
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: then you'll understand
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in DOS,it'd work...in Windows, it won't
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: You know what?  I think you know exactly what I want and what I'm asking, but for some reason you feel the need to constantly goad and push.  Quit it.  Get lost and stop talking to me if you don't want to answer my question because right now, as it stands, Abelinc, you are a waste of time and space on my screen.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Note() was his way to redirect console output from /dev/null to the screen
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I gave you the solution to your problem, but I'm also explaining why what you think he did isn't what he actually did
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I am not interested in an explanation, I am interested in a solution
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which I gave you...
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just like on tech board where I gave you actual working code and you again accused me of trolling
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I was kidding that time!
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: it looks like there's not much I can do about it in any case, not at my level of experience anyway.  I also really wish that Send() didn't use a cap, actually I wish a lot of his single-word-named functions didn't require a cap.  Oh well.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and in this thread, I gave you 2 viable options...(1) use the existing AnsiNote() if it satisfies your need, or (2) add function iPrint () to your script file defining that function as you see fit
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use that same technique to make Send() not require a cap...define "send()" to just send its arguments to Send() unmodified
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: But I wanted print().  Not ANSInote (RIDICULOUS caps btw!), not iprint.  Just print().  If it can't be done, it can't be done, but if that's the case just tell me it can't be done.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: AnsiNote, not ANSINote
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: telling me to do ANSInote or iprint is telling me something else, other than the answer to the very specific question I asked.  That would be fine but that's not what I'm looking for.  Sorry to be difficult like that.
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: dude it can be done, I've said it like 3 times
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: print = AnsiNote or whatever at the top of your file
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it can be done the exact same way I suggested making the iPrint(), just use print instead
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: oh, maybe it used to be ANSInote.  I seem to recall that but it was a while ago
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I was "inventing" iPrint, which is why I said it was for "Impuritan's Print)...you can call it absolutely anything your heart desires...call it AbelincSucksAtPrinting()
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: cool, I'll try it, see that at least is an answer, not an explanatory sidebar.  Took us 50 lines of talk to get there but whatever works I suppose
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I gave the answer 15 minutes ago...
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (after morn did, though)
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: thank you both for your time, I will see what I can do with it
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: still learning, but getting a LOT better at this finally!
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: #WIN }:>
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rofl, zmud is still higher on "clients" than cmud
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: moving it here - goss became rather lame
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: the plugin would have to take your level into account
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: otherwise, if you get to the same mob at a higher level, and you have a new combat spell, it will consider the mob has a vuln to that damtype, when in fact the extra damage is from leveling
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: you have to be smarter than that
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: you can't just go in willy nilly, you have to ensure that your stats are controlled
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: and it doesn't use combat spells, it just uses a changing flag weapon
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: the script is designed to run the complete res/vuln profile on a target, generally you have to heal the target because they die too quickly to get enough samples
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: you are going to spend a massive amount of time optimizing for something that will barely benefit you once you build your character
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I don't care about building a competitive charcter
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: that sounds better. but filling in the info would be a pain. one alternative would be to have a script AND a DB with mobs, and the data filled by paladins or by clan skill
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: then enjoy :)
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the plugin is not suitable for a Sorcerer with "variable stats", "power projection", "three moons", et cetera affecting the results 
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: things like this are far more interesting than grinding icefall and spamming setwanted could ever be :p
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: me too
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: but there are a lot of things to work on, and this is... not high on my list of valuable information
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: anyways afk
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: it is too, xyliz, because it can show if those spells are hitting a vuln damtype, or not
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: pMage spells hit 4x to 10x harder than other pClass spells 
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the RNG is wild on some days
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: did somebody X????? other than Xyliz send Zhalut a tell.  Inexplicably received this:  30 Apr 16:26:13 - Zhalut tells you 'Auto response: I have been idle for 1 hour, .'
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: how do i get a list of all the other X??????? players online
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: swho sort by name and look at the end
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: where can I find soundpacks for MushClient?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: winklewinkle had one, good timingi was just about to go check for myself!
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: yep it's still there
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: where can I find soundpacks for MushClient?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i just told you. tech -h
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: whats the websight?
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: who ever is at here, take your hair here. our mate , who think their are brighgt yellow are yellow take it bright. Thanks
T3/r7/2017-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech:  Just for fun!
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitsan Tech: hi everyone, i'm having a programming issue when i need to use the bigmap
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitsan Tech: the problem happen with the Plugin: Aardwolf_BigMap_Graphical 
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitsan Tech: can someone help me?
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: OUt of curiousity, what version of mushclient do you have? Type 'checkversion'
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitsan Tech: r1825
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitsan Tech: i can use the bigmap normally, this error happens when it's activated by triggers
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: how do you update the mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitsan Tech: i never updated it
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitsan Tech: i download the mush one day before yesterday
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: yeah your version is way newer than mine
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: thinking i need to update
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitsan Tech: sorry about my english
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'm using r1851, but since I'm not having any errors I'm not updating :D  It ain't broke, so I ain't fixin it.
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitsan Tech: smart 
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitsan Tech: it's late in your country?
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitsan Tech: because i would guess that in this channel should be a programmer
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitsan Tech: or am i wrong?
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitsan Tech: should have*
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: its 12:13 am here
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: and I am using r1773
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitsan Tech: wow, you live in the other side of world?? here its 01:15 am
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitsan Tech: so, you dont have a idea about this bug?
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: no clue about your bug sorry
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitsan Tech: i'm keeping typing in different channels.....
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitsan Tech: its so automatic type nb before all
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I have the same problem whenever I use curse, and end up triple-checking before I press enter.
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitsan Tech: curse?
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitsan Tech: the spell?
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: No, it's a channel here.
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: no the channel
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitsan Tech: oh, the adult channel
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitsan Tech: lol, funny
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: trig
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitsan Tech: how can i manage my plugins?
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: is there a way to export the mapper db?
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: on mushclient
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: is there any good free software to recover HD data? EaseUS free version only recovered 500MB lol
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Out of blue my HDD partition drive just shows empty heh
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: so I have a question about using variables in mush
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: I have an alias, where I set a variable with SetVariable, and I need to send to script for it to work. in the same alias, can I also use another of my own aliases? and if so how?
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: I don't think you can, the second one has to go to execute. I tried to do a similar thing a few weeks ago, and wound up making two aliases to get the job done.
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: but if you wrote your own script, how would you use an alias? I guess this is about the same thing
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: I think you can do more in a 'real' script than in the GUI
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: I didn't want to get that far into it, though.
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: hmm ok :(
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: Fiendish or Arcidayne might have a better answer
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: use GetVariable
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: how would I use that?
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: what I want to do is basically an alias for dualing weapons, say dual * and I want it to set a variable with the wildcard and then actually dualing the weapon
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: just have one alias to set the weapon, and another to actually wield it. You're not going to reset the second weapon that often.
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: I figured out how to do it
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: to actually dual the weapon, you just to world.Send "dual '%1'"
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: in the same alias? neat
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: yeah, in the same alias that sends to script and sets the variable
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imparsable HazeKnight Tech: has anyone updated recently
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imparsable HazeKnight Tech: for the aardwolf mushclient
T3/r7/2017-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imparsable HazeKnight Tech: and none of the world settings are saving after rebooting?
T3/r7/2017-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'm not dead
T3/r7/2017-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: That's always a good thing, I hear.
T3/r7/2017-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Collared Shala Tech: With mapper is there way to stack a pause with other commands?  Something like: mapper cexit give 6000 gold innkeeper
T3/r7/2017-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Collared Shala Tech: mapper cexit give 6000 gold innkeeper;wait 3;wear mask;open w;w;wait 3 **
T3/r7/2017-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: there is, but I forgot the command :(
T3/r7/2017-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Collared Shala Tech: mapper cexit_wait 3 works, but i can't find a way to stack it with other commands
T3/r7/2017-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: that's not what you want though right, mapper cexit_wait just waits longer until it checks if the cexit was ok
T3/r7/2017-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Collared Shala Tech: I'm basicly just looking for a way to pause a command string while a mobprog runs without having to script it really
T3/r7/2017-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Zoot Tech: in mapper help exits: To insert a pause during execution of the cexit, use wait(<seconds>) as one or more of the cexit moves
T3/r7/2017-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Collared Shala thanks General Zoot heartily.
T3/r7/2017-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Collared Shala Tech: That did the trick, thank you.
T3/r7/2017-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Zoot Tech: you're welcome :)
T3/r7/2017-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: funny, I can't find that in the mapper help file
T3/r7/2017-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Collared Shala Tech: it was in mapper help exits but i was typing the command wrong
T3/r7/2017-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: so .. If I add "pass without trace" to bast spellup, it seems bast spellup tries to use "pass" which gets interpreted as the social passout
T3/r7/2017-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: is there a way to get around that?
T3/r7/2017-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: not sure about the plugin part but the syntax is "trace"
T3/r7/2017-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it's also the same skill as hide/chameleon power
T3/r7/2017-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: hrm .. wonder it there is a way to change that in the plugin... or if I just should wait a few levels to get one of the other same spells/skills
T3/r7/2017-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inicus Tech: With the aard mushclient, when I'm in combat and check my inventory it displays it with all the invdata tags.  Out of combat checking inventory is fine.  Anyone know what would cause this?
T3/r7/2017-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: sounds like a malfunctioning plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inicus Tech: Thanks!  The culprit was the Aardwolf_Inventory_Serials plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: combat, eh
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impuritan spanks The Jerk Fiendish playfully.
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: one day someone will tell me about bugs so I don't have to discover them by scraping channel history
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: now where would fun be in that? :)
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: somebody else had a problem with inventory serials plugin doing that, the other day
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I see that
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Is there a quick and easy way to backup everything in Mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Would saving world details make a complete backup of my scripts and stuff?
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: in mushclient is there any command which i can use to delay before i run in another direction? e.g. run 2e. wait 2 secs. run e?
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: wait(2)
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: thank you Enei it works :)
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: only inside the mapper
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: my laptop keyboard is falling apart where is Abelinc to fix it
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: he won't fix it, he'll just tell you how dumb you are to have messed it up
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: then he'll tell you how to properly care for its replacement
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: it will all be technically correct, but delivered in a horribly smug tone of voice
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: can somebody please help trying to transfer mapper data to latest mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: don't transfer. use the installer.
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: it crashed fucked up all my stuff thing cant run
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what did?
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: normal mush started to lag out then ended up crashing before it started runing.. i need to know how i can transfer data from previous mud to latest client 
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'll give you three links
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: is there a new version out?
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no but there will be soon
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: as soon as I can get someone with a clan motd to help me fix that bug on tech
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: thank you findish
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: also lets say i transfer all worlds data to new version would it change outlook?
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Cerashor: the first link is to the installer (under normally circumstances you don't need to do any transfer. just point it at your previous intallation and it will do the rest) https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Cerashor: the second link is to instructions for recovering mapper database backups (assuming you have mapper backups enabled) https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GMCP-driven-world-mapper#database-corruption
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Cerashor: the third link has instructions for if you want to manually transfer files from an old install to a new one http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: will contact you
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: what will be in the new version?
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: is gammon going to release a new MUSH version or write a new client like he talks about in that one posting on the topic?  I am just curious
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: it's kind of an interesting topic, since cmud was a massive upgrade from zmud, I imagine the same sort of update/progression from MUSH would be pretty neat.
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't believe he ever talks about writing a new client
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: there's a "what if" type of post about it on his site.  It's exactly that "if I were writing a new client, it might differ in X, Y, and Z respects."  I don't recall when he posted it though.
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: kind of exciting to think that updates might happen, after being left in the cold by Zugg :p
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Nick still fixes bugs. I don't think he's ever going to add new features that aren't both trivial and fun.
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: there any way to get the new mush smoother?
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: ok soooo 
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: could anyone please provide me with a link for S&D? one i downloaded throws errors when xrt is being used?
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: do I have to modify the mapper plugin if I want it to return more than 50 results at a time?
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: probably
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: is there a way to manually insert a room into the mapper?
T3/r7/2017-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sure. Close Mushclient, open the sqlite database in some utility that can open such things, and insert the data.
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: if search and destroy gives me this error Alias function "xrun_to" not found or had a previous error. what can i do to remove it?
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Remove the script and get the updated version from Nokfah's site.
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: download search and destroy from nokfah or lunk (mirror of lunk)
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: ok thanks!
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades peers at you intently. 
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're using a few-years-old version of S&D (Winkle's) after the mapper's database schema changed in a way that broke S&D's method of storing "first room of an area" (the xset stuff)
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pee intently at Pleiades.
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: careful there
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I am mesmerizing
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Pleiades wants golden showers all day, every day.
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: even wit
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: hi guys seems its still giving me that error
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you restated mush?
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: lets try that first.
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: nope still same
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you download all of the S&D files? it's actually WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender_2.xml causing that error
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: thats the one i got from nokfahs site.
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some time before you get the "not found or had a previous error" message, it should spit out half a dozen lines of code
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pastebin those
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: that did appear
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: is it possible to use custom exits via the mapper?
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: you can click around the mob and travel via normal exits, don't think you can navigate through custom exits without typing
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: impuritan: mapper help exits...for custom exits, you make a cexit...as far as clicking, if it's visible in the GUI mapper, you'd be able to click there, but often the two parts wouldn't be part of the same visible map to be able to click
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: hmm, I will try adding an option "use exit" to the right click menu
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that could get a bit complicated, given that many rooms would have multiple ones defined...the map room of glam, deathtrap dungeon, fractured, etc. in the form of in-room portals, and things like fayke, imagi and nyne for true custom exits
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: well, a "use exit" sub-menu to the right click menu.  sort of like the "change exit" one now, only will be "use exit" instead
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: found that menu in the plugin code, just need to look at it a bit now.  should be do able.
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just a thought, but might make more sense to instead make a miniwindow of "current room's exits" which is clickable...then each room is a single click rather than multiple clicks needed for a right-click option bringing up a list of options
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I like your thoughts
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: mapper is nice but is missing some things I feel it shouldn't.  A click menu to follow custom exits is one, and the ability to manually add and rename rooms is another i'll look at adding at some point
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: got enough miniwindows ;)
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I dont even have enough room for my windows on my screen
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: but that's probably because it's an 11" screen
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: is it possible to connect an external monitor to a laptop as a second monitor?
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: sure
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: college student move out weekend and i scored a free monitor
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: just make sure you have the correct cables
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: are you on an windows platform?
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: hit windows and "P" at the same time to see options wrt the second screen
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: so, I have the click menu added and displaying available exits from the room.  so far, so good.
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: now, how do I make the exits actually send that command?
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have the hyperlink execute "mapper goto <end room>"
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: ha, i got it working
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: yep, I can click on 'bucket' and it takes me to the tinkers guild, very nice.  couldn't do that before.
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: the automap command enabled?
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's the next question
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but it might be safer to just suggest reinstalling the plugin, because it will activate what it needs
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hey all
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: so i my data on my flash drive is gone...its just showing 1 shortcut with my flash name on it, but there is memory occupied on my flash containing my info
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: anyone know what i can do to retrieve my info 
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: windows or linux?  I recovered data off a windows drive once by mounting it in linux and examining the data that way.
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: http://www.easeus.com/file-recovery/virus-file-recovery.html
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: windows, though no linuz os near me
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So... http://quickdraw.withgoogle.com -- That's a thing.
T3/r7/2017-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: a new update for Mush--how is it going so far
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: going well for me :]
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Why is it when you hold your mouse sideways on mouse pad, and move the pointer jumps?
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: OK, just sometimes this happens
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Mine doesn't
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I experienced this on different model mouses and pads, same bug
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Sometimes it jumps a little for a while. When it does, I open up a notepad and have a lovely chat with the NSA
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: i dont have a pointer, i can sense where it is at all timea
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Wierd since i got a double lazer tracking muose
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Anymouse is playing via VR goggles, hmm
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Cackle: what is your pad made of?
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: you need the quad lazer beam mouse
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Hard surface the old fashioned
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: hard plastic with micro grooves
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: have you considered not using a pad?
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Mine is the soft of rubbery type
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Quad beam mouse, never seen this.
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Sort of*
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: i use a hardmat for counter strike
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Im using a glass top where my keyboard . tower, speakers etc sits on, cant play on glass
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and if you stick a piece of paper under it?
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i mean the glass
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I never liked mouse on paper
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Its like only seldomly the mouse pointer jumps when im holding it askew, heck its a gamimg mouse, should do that
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the last time i used a mouse pad, mice still had balls
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Good Idea, i can try some photo printing paper on my glass
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: should not*
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Even with laser mouse, mousepad always "felt" better
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Well, the right kind of pad
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: You even get mouse pads that haves wrist support, i personnaly think that is made for old people
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Yeah never liked those too
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: or people who realise when they get old they'll have sore wrists from not using htem
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nod
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bytor is old people
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: These new material based pads for gaming wont gel good with my teflon mouse feet imo, thats why if i use hard surface pads, I can judge and feel all the grooves below and be more precise, may it be counterstrike etc
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: don't most laser mice advertise that they work on glass?
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I got very thick glass, and it didnt advertize it on my mouse box thats it compatible on that
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Its very laggy on glass
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: jump from one point on desktop to the next
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Perhaps its my ash on mouse pad from smoking
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle slaps himself on the head and yells, "DOH!"
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: is there a q/gq/cp plugin that adds a window displaing q/gq/cp targets? (that's all I want, show me if I can take a quest/cp, and my status when I do.)
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: MUSHClient - Search & Destroy
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: My gaming room is very dark with some neon lights, I sometimes play with a cig or joint in my mouse hand, maybe its that
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: bast has a plugin for that
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: doesn't S&D do alot more?
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: It does, but you don't have to use the rest. The window will be there for you
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: is there a gmcp value that represents max str, say, but that factors in the maximum potential benefit from eq/spells?  i.e. the max attainable?
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: the maxstats.maxstr value, for instance, is just what the stat is trained to.
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: No tyebald
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: you need to calculate it from 'stats' command output
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: any issues with snapshot r1912?
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: hi y'all i need somehe lp to get the new exe program to run... mycomputer keeps blocking it.. how do i fix this?
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: is there a way to delete a single room from the mapper database?
T3/r7/2017-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: yes, right click on the room and select delete room
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: Regarding Mushclient mapper, how do i stop the mapper from using a locked door as a shortcut for speedwalk?
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: level lock it to 300?
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: ah thank you!
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: all mapper exits can be set to only be used above a certain level
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i think you are looking for autonosum
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So Microsoft is blocking browser downloads and changing the default search engine in Windows 10 S...
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: is that the windows 'advertised' to start in 15 sec?
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: In fact, it's only allowing you to install directly from the store, so no side programs can be installed.
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: because my laptop starts faster than that :)
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Probably, Nocens.
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: they might change the type of apps available in the store though
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: they want to add Office there (probably in connection with that windows) so the store might get used for win32 apps too? 
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The core problem is that they will only allow apps from the store to be installed. Chrome and Firefox don't have store-apps, and also, not being able to change the search engine is shit.
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: if office gets added to the store, they might be added too
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The reasoning behind it, I suspect, is to better protect your Windows PC. If it's not in the store, it wasn't vetted by Microsoft, and can still contain viruses.
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Developers have to comply with the Store guidelines before it'll be added.
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Meaning Google and Mozilla would have to submit a request for their application to become store-eligible.
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As well as any other software developer.
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: does anyone use Pocket Mud Pro on iPhone?
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Only ever used Mud Rammer
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: No, I have never used Pocket Mud Pro, but I am willing to help you problem solve. What is the issue you are having?
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: I am having a problem creating triggers, and the help file does not help.
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griffinclaw Tech: What troubles are you having? I can't promise I can help, but I can try. 
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: the doctor said there's nothing that can be done
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: Yeah, I can understand that. Help files are mainly written by experienced people, they are not written from the understanding that a person may be unfamiliar with the info. What is the issue you are having with the trigger? What are you trying to do exactly?
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: not even interferon?
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griffinclaw Tech: Oh te noes. :(
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: not even that!
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus howls at the moon.
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades looks around afraid for his life.
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel comforts Pleiades.
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: I am trying to creat an auto login trigger. I want to load my name and passsword into the mud.
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: imma try chelation next
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus starts moaning.
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griffinclaw Tech: You are hot, Quadrapus.
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: Ok, I understand, what have you tried so far? I am looking at the Pocket Mud documentation right now.
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: I put, what be thy name adventurer in to the pattern field.  Next I check to see if the rigger is enabled. Then, I put sen Jemina into the LUA code field.  When I connect to Aardwolf, nothing happens.
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Are you on MUSH?
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne slaps Pleiades.
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: Ok, I understand, Jemina, and I am trying to create a similar trigger with the program I am using to see what issues you are being presented with. 
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Again, are you using MUSH? If so, much simpler way...
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: no, I am using Muddrammer now.
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And the problem generally is the trigger doesn't fire because it's not a new line because it's expecting output.
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: Jemina, did you set the prompt to "yes" when creating the trigger in pocket mud? From what I understand this will allow the program to look for match in the prompt, so it is not trying to look for information from mud to match.
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: I have tried that, but I will try it againe
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I feel like I'm missing half of multiple conversations
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: that only happens when everyone is conspiring against you!!
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I never noticed that the parser for commands allows a complete command then an arbitrary string after it
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I.e. 'south for the win' just takes you south and does not send back a bad input string
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ast Tech: in mushclient- how do i modify bast's plugins to display pups/level info on comms log?
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the comm log has a function for displaying other information that you can use through the CallPlugin interface
T3/r7/2017-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can do, for instance, CallPlugin("b555825a4a5700c35fa80780","storeFromOutside","HELLO@RHello@Mhello@x215hello@x66HELLO")
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: If a mud software is not designed with a username/password auto login. Is it possible to setup a trigger for this process? I have read a lot of info, and most say no. However, Pocket mud pro says in its user guide that it is designed to recognize the username/ prompts (it uses aardwolf as a specific example) and allows the ability to set a trigger for autologin. I am helping someone who is struggling to setup an auto login trigger for aardwolf, using pocket mud pro. lol I would appreciate any ideas.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if it allows triggers, it's possible
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: alt+2      diku style
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: he asked for software that are not designed to it cackle. alt2 wont help him :)
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: oh not Mush
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I was speed reading there and didnt catch the last part
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: first sentence should have screamed NOT MUSH
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Well I skipper the first few words
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: My eyeballs was trackinh important keywords, some how i missed that, im so sorry
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: Ok, so if the pocket mud pro states so clearly that it will work in this way, and it doesn't. Do I assume user error? I suppose it is a possiblity for the user guide to say that, and it actually not function. Portal mud pro did not get good reviews.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: Pocket mud pro. lol
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Try another client.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: They are trying another one too, MudRammer. Not much for the name of this software, I feel offended everytime I read the name. lol I feel like this software is telling me to pound sand. Also, not much documentation provided for that software yet. 
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Could try and read FAQ forums of said clients.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if you can create alias, create one with something simple but not one you would use otherwise (1234 for example) which sends your name and password as different commands. should be fast enough if you dont have ability to triggers
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: I have been searching faq forums of said clients. Which is where I found a post from the person I am helping. lol It described this issue in detail, but no responses yet. I agree with the alias as an option, but they were requesting help with trigger, so I was attempting to exhaust all options for triggers first. I can see how an alias would be a possibility, as well as a script. From what I have read, there are other ways possibilities too, but it requires a technical savy I don't currently have in this area of software. 
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just trigger welcome message part to send name and pass
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if there is trigger. you can send them automatically
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: trigger "##[        --- Welcome to Aardwolf MUD ---" to send name and pass. simple enough
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: that's how we did it in 90's
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: True, and I agree, but the trigger is not matching the welcome message for aardwolf. From what I understand, the triggers don't recognize the welcome message because it is data sent from the mud that the triggers are unable to match. It is not a mud line.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: create your own.. forget inclient automatic triggers
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: Would you explain, please, Nuanse? I don't understand exactly what you mean. 
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lifender Tech: Anybody, the command that lets you change how many lines appear if you for example look at inv?
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: scroll ?
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lifender Tech: Ah, thank you. It was in that help menu 'pagesize' one word.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I find pagesize 0 work best in MUSH, but pagesize 500 or the like is better for phone clients, since they crash when its overloaded.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lifender Tech: Well I am running MushClient on a "cheap Windows Tablet" the pagesize was too big, set it to 15 and I am good it seems. Less time having to scroll up. lol
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I just flick my finger down on tablet and let it scroll freely :)
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: but this is Blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Has blowtorch got any more decent yet?
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lifender Tech: Yes, blowtorch I do that. This tablet has a keyboard mag attached. I hate taking my hands off the keyboard to scroll. Meh, Im just old fashioned I guess. 
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: The Test V2 beta version is the most stable, only plugin it seems to have are chat window
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lifender Tech: Blowtorch, has made improvements.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I haven't tried it in a while but I was playing with v2 beta though
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: The Blowtorch creator stopped making improvements around 2001
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: android didn't exist in 2001
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: 2011
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: =p
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lifender Tech: Well someone bumped up blowtorch. Button setup has gotten easier.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: But with learning simple regex coding, you are able to make fancy scripts via trigering, like autohunt,auto spellup etc
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: True, but oh man the mapping in mush is lovely
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Yes :) Im only on mush now for like 4 months after years of Btorch.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: did you try some aard plugin for blowtorch?  interface was busy but interesting
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Then Karang do try search and destroy plugin for mush mapper
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Only seperate window that captures channel chatter
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: This window have numerous tabs, that have all the channels that are busy chatting
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Makes things more streamline and less spammy
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Oh its nopt an aard plugin for btorch, its a pure btorch plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Mush is very stable imo, I only experienced 1 crash in 4 months
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Blowtorch is like 4 a week
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Gotta pay the price for mobility
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lifender Tech: I use to run MushClient off of thumbdrive so I could take it to work. lol
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Lol, that blowtorch you get from Playstore is so buggy, you cant even do a double without it crashes, what a waste of a client
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle grins at Lifender.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nod, I guess if the cellphone signal are jumpy then it just crash
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: But then again, if you type to fast aswell and stomp many commands in succession it also crashes, so not only signal related
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: My mush folder with all the plugins etc when .7 zipped via ultra compression is only 7.039 megs. I think will make backups every month end, and email it to myself to avavoid losses
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: better send it to dropbox folder, unless your mail is stored on server
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lifender Tech: LOL guess that beats thumbdrive playing. lol
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I use Google Drive.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Its an Gmail server.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Do google drive works like a flash drive?
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lifender Tech: Google drive works like Dropbox. Think cloud backup or similar.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lifender Tech: Google Drive makes a folder on your pc that syncs it to cloud if ya like.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Very nice.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: So you 100% need an uptodate virus programme, because if that folder is infected, then your backup in the cloud is aswell
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lifender Tech: that is why I don't do google drive. I use thumbdrive to play off of. lol
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I hate viruses so much, On my previous PCs i had many due to no internet connectivity and free anti virus access, this PC i got now, nothing infected me, cause i scan like every second day
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Yip. Il stick with emailing myself mush backups 
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Doh, I can just buy myself a thumb drive...
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Or a dvd rewriteable
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: how do you emmidaitly see if a pc is old?
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: if it gots a stiffy/floppy drive
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: stiffy/floppy LOL! Awesome
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Floki falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I guess a quick way is to see what os was preinstalled on the device
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: and guestimate off that, you see XP sucker is old
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: xp pro was my favourite OS, till i installed & ultimate :)
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: XP was so much better at the time then vista for gaming
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: 7 ultimate atm*
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Vista was special
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Vista was a resource hog amd didnt yield good benchmarks
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I remember being excited for it then they stripped out all the goodies
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Monad I was hyped on that
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Oddly some newer games run better under Vista for example gta 4, so i had a duel boot OS, xp and vista and  played older direct X 9 games on XP
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: jeeze
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: That's how I left windows I just got to lazy to reboot
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Sleep button ftw
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: A fast reboot setting via EUFI setting takes windows to boot like what? 5 seconds from get go and your in
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: You dont even see that windows animation
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Just GPU and motherboard logo
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Waking up from sleep mode is like 2 seconds
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I'll just stay with my love Debian
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: What is that boss
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: a Free and open gnu/linux.  It's what ubuntu linux is based off
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Oh no, not that. I hate Linux with a passion
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Sounds like you got a beat stick from it
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: But if your a coder or non gamer, i can see why it attracks
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I got it on some stiffy disk from some magazine and went from there
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Its a good OS, but if you are windows since child birth, its horrid to understand
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think more attractive is that you have more control what system is doing
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: The thing is with same PC specs, Windows leaves Linux in the dust for graphical calculations
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have Windows Server that does unusualy things you can just wait till it stops
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: agreed
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for games Windows wins hands down
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Oh I got controll over my windows, Im a very big geek and tweak everything into the finest detail
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle noddles in total agreement at Trachx.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: It's so much more straight forward tweakingn and what nots
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: so do you overclock the GPU when you fire up Mush? =D
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Actually im under clocked atm, My GPU is clocking in at 120 core mhz
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle chuckles at Karang's joke.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: My cpu is idling at 3% and my ram at 13%
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: You're more thrifty resource wise.  I'm always running multiple VM's for whatever reason
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Rumour has it Linux cant get viruses
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Vm, thats cool man
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Linux can be exploited as well, just a smaller target base versus windows.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: userbase
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is less automated than windows and less popular, that is why there is not too many viruses for Linux
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I also wanna try that. Windows Xp mode, its a virtual machine that is 32bit, currently my 64bit OS cant even install some 32bit games
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I see
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: isn't that a freebie?
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Yup
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Like 400megs
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Tiny
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nod, MY motherboard and CPU have a VM feature, so when im using the Virtual machine OS, it will not tax my resources from main OS
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: So you can sau the VM runs at full power
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: what you mean less popular?:)
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle shrugs in response to __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal's question.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Defenders of Linux Unite
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: there is nothing to defend
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: linux itself has spread like a virus
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Gaming tip, cap all games at 60 fps, it reduces heat and frees up frame calculation in graphic intensive scenes
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Lucky for me I play only games that seem to be 15-20 years
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: o.O
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: linux is widely used in embedded, but not so popular at workstation + servers
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I'm just getting around to playing chrono trigger
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Linux is big in serverspace
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nod im a retro games myself that only plays 1988-20-6 games mainly
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: linux is huge in server
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Chrono trigger is sweet on Super Nintendo
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is, but I said "workstation + servers" 
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: ...
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I wouldn't call them retro, I grew up with em
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so systems where you install it on your own as opposed to embedded systems
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I was born i 86, grew up with nintendo and gravitated into SNES,N64,PS1 PS2 and ultimately PC, Played hundreds of titles of the years
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for example my sample: 650 systems (including servers) - most of servers use Linux, but that is just not more than 10% of total 650
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Don't forget about all androids running around that has to cound for something
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Android games is pretty sleek, and their Hindi games gpt a huge library of quality games
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can consider android as embedded system, you have no choice to install windows phone on your Galaxy S30 
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: but you can install different  roms, aka distributions
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I dont have any luck with Android emulators for PC sadly, all seems to be trails and have pop ups
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: considering popular I mean such cases when you choose between Linux and Windows
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Download android developer studio
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: ^^^
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Will do thanks
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: comes with a emulator, not sure if that hits your needs
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I just wand OpenGl support for games, easy key mapping and internet access
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Minus popups and stuff like saying i need to buy full version every ten min
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: yeah downloading the official tool instead of malware is probably a good idea... rofl
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: There are plenty of Android emulators that are legit
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I'm dieing laughing over here
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I dont get malware, i counter such things
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: cause you scan daily for that malware
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Its not walware, its trusted software reviewd from numerous sites
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sno Queen Defines snorts.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Its android sites from the early 2000s, it have many registered users, twitter, faceboo accounts etc. dont think over 10mil people will download malware and rate it 5 out of 5 starts....
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: over 20 million facebook accounts get "hacked" daily
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: people do what people do
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: early 2000s?
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: didnt it come out in 2007
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I think 2008
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Lets just say im not that stupid to download just anything without scriternizing it
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Lets just say im not that stupid to download just anything without scriternizing it
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: It's not about being stupid, some of the malware can be slick
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: clearly if you're getting popups every 5 mins you're very scriternizing
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Its a demo emulator so duh
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: a demo emulator for something that has a free available official emulator
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Not free
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: nothing at all suspicious about that
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Hence im looking for a free one
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: yes it is free lmfao
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Good Lord...
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: There are paid android emulators
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: oh christ
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: this is too much
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Im glad to make you laugh
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Android developer studio is distributed by goodle as is the emulator.  I don't want to say google made androi]d technically but Yea.  Good high quality stuff it's not suspicious 
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: you get free android emulators with minimal features, and you get paid version with good support, I download a demo aka trail version of paid version just to check it out. Now i want a free one that have similar features. that it
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle thanks Karang heartily.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I never downloaded malware ;)
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: that you know of :P
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I know
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: actually do this look up a android virtualbox appliance that might be up your alley.  Havent looked in forever
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: I never download malware just a "demo version" android emulator that gives me popups every few minutes guize
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I got a men firewall with all incoming outgoing connection logges, i can state now nothing is out of the ordinary, its all just the same
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: parallels supports android vms too
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: roflcopter
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: guize ma firewall, zhe is le tits
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: you prolly got malware on your pc atm
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: ahahahaha
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle sniggers quietly to himself, reflecting over an amusing thought.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Your mother wears combat boots!
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I dont got virsus trojans nothing, i take care of my pc
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: yeap a good multivitiman every day keeps the viruses away!
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: a line of coke
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: But seriously, i spring clean my PC box every week
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Whatcha do to spring clean?
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Even outfitted it with neon led lights, top notch hardware and gaming pheripals, ofcoz i will take care of it and make sure it runs at 100%
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I use a can of air to remove dust
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: those lights will keep those virile young trojans away
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: better use compressed air, can of air can explode (as it is not just compressed air) :P
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: It starts at the hardware, I take equally care of my OS
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Compressed air lol
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: installs malware antivirus
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: you wanna break stuff now
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: how? you mean with moisture?
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: the high pressure could break delicate motherboard stuff
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: so you just used canned air not compressed?
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: if a can of air can mess up your mobo you got a lemon for a board
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Its lower pressure obviousl
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: BAHAHAHA
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: can just blow on the motherboard, for softest airflow and best results
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: snuggly soft mobo blow
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: off
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, sure blow is quite strong, but is has never happened to me/my friends to damage pc that way
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Try a gas powered compressor and point it at your head
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: can of air is minor compared to that
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: I wager you're speaking from experience
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I mean if you blow air on the cpu fan and gpu fan it can affect it negativily
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Im experienced
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sno Queen Defines crosses her arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Ever see the hurricane?  It's like can of compressed air but motorized :D
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: It can't and won't
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Just blowing on it Ullin is not always enough to removve dirt from heat sinks, need a can
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Now the moisture on the otherhand could 
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: The can of airs nossle makes it easy to pin point into the grooves
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: we use Makita's AC 640 - 8 bar/116psi maxium pressure, 1.5Hp output power - over 400 samples still working
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Well look at that hulk there
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: it's almost gree too
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is it also good to blow water out of laptop :P
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: this is very good: http://www.designspotter.com/product/2012/05/Canned-Air.html
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: To bad all the PC technitions use canned air to clean mobos, guess they are wrong
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no, they do not have access to air compressor
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: We are not cleaning motor parts Trachx
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: canned air is fine as long as you don't hold it upside down
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: How often do you service motors on other stuff you own?
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I worked 6 months for a national racing company, i got some experience from cleaning gearboxes
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Well talk about a different story
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but, as I said - that is real sample over 30 servers were cleaned more than once with that compressor, I think probably also over 400 Dell's desktops / notebooks
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: quite likely some of them twice/thrice
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and there were no problems
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: If you got high value gaming PC, rather be safe then sorry, use a can of air, since your not 100% sure you can break anyhing from high pressure air compresors
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sure you need to be a bit more careful with fans - so not to spin them too fast
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: 30 is a small sample though thats like 3 ish racks
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: not sure about gaming PCs - but just simple stations are rather quite durable
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: You can even bend resistor wires with air compressor
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: really
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Yes man, if we are talking about the same air compressors that are used for spraying paint
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Ok great thanks I'm going to my garage at 5 in morning to grab a resister, breadboard and compresser to see if it happens
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Please take a video
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I'm pretty sure you can bend its wires, but then that is not RL example
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: is it a gaming breadboard?
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: hahhaha
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Why go overboard with air?
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: air go over board to clean it
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sno Queen Defines throws back her head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean if it is soldered and wires are long enough to allow you to bend it "by hand" - then it is just wrong
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Your not insane are you to use hurricane winds on a small box of hardware of high value
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Like taking a chainsaw to cut your bread
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: depends on how hard the bread is
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: this looks really good too http://www.canlessair.com/
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: O2 Hurricane, a canless air system for all your canned air needs
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: a buddy has it, he swears by it.  It's novel I must admit
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I like those ESD parts and "even drying fingernail polish"
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: also doesn't use Difluoroethane/Hydroflurocarbons which is known to be hard on electronics...so said an audiophile
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: So don't use freon on my computer?
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: So you buy 1100% graphic card, you want to clean it, and the first thing comes to mind is to fetch the electric/gassoline powered air compressor from garage and blow it clean, hahahah Il start with some soft blowing on it from mouth, then i will use a earbud stick to gently tap on it to remove dust, using a can of air is even hardcore
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: 1100$
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: why using freon, do you need to freeze meat next to the CPU? you can use your freezer for that
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: hey You're the one talking about the hydroflurocarbons
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, first of all you need to get it out of that air-conditioned, shockproof case
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I suggest you freeze your meat in a temperature controlled aquatic environment
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: but I am curious, if it's 1,100 USD, then no compressed air. Is ther e a price point where you can use it?
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or better send to qualified technician which will clean it for you for 100$ (with air compressor :P)
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Talk about underpaying
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: you can use canned air at about 100k+ for a signle component
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I would no way in hell come out for that
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I find that putting the computer in a wind tunnel helps with cleaning
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: You are using over powered tools when less is more.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I thought "less is more" only applied when my wife was referring to me...
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I like the wind tunnel idea...can modify a mac pro to create a mini wind tunnel effect
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: find your local missle defense contractor for the wind tunnel set up
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Lol you guys...
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I cant win this debate, its 10 vs 1
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you just use tools you have access to, if you have only access to can of air then you use it, but air compressor is much more convenient , yet let me google for something like "I damaged my mobo with air compressor"
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: 3 vs 1 and 7 smartasses on the side =p
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: you could also use the vacuum of space to clean a graphics card, just stick it near the edge of a black hole's gravity well and it will just suck you all the dirt
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Can confirm, am smartass.  *nodnod
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: But from my experience, you dont need any tool of air like cans compressors, jsut blow with your mouth and lick an earbud so that the dust sticks. If you do this once a week there will not be so much dust to begin with
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: <- This guy uses an old pancake air compressor he got at an auction for a dollar. 3 gallon tank and cleans computer parts efficiently
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle grins at Karang.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: never lick the earbud, use isoprople(sp?) alcohol for computer parts, let it dry completely before use
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I used to be a tech at a repair shop, we used alcohol for all our cleaning needs
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: i dont use this method for the motherboard circuts obviosly, only heatsinks and fans
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: also, if you are going to use cotton ear cleaners, then make sure you are not leaving cotton fibers behind
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: All this talk of computer cleaning is making me cringe looking at all the dust all over mine...
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle is agreeing with that Tol person again...
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: same here ... mine has never been dusted...
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: see I'm worse I keep my side off for the extra heat
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: actually isoprople is not good (not safe) for cleaning anything
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: never had an issue with alcohol
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I got transparent sidepanels so its bugging me if its filthy
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Makes sense
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: What can iso cause?
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: my laptop fan has emphysema.... whhhhhh...coughcough....whhhhh
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Dont remove side pannels and leave them off. It increases dust and reduces airflow vortex
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: yea I like the heat
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: and I've done it for a living a little over 20 years... I'm good
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Hah
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it vaporizes too fast, so it take too much heat off cleaned items
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: trachx are you being one of the black holers?
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: and it causes cracks from the quick temperature change?
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I wont use alcohol for cleaning, its ment for drinking
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: rubbing alcohol will kill you if you drink it
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: and running you car on also
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Blind, it'll make you blind
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: nodnod
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: not a problem with lead solder, but can be a problem with lead-free one
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: crack on the gaming breadboard due to extra alcohol consumption?
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: oh, no shit?
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: why i use only single malt highland scotch on my mobo
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Usually the only issur is your motherboard has to many children after a few rounds of drinking then it cannot support its clutch
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: damn you treat your pc better than me
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: put your lead-free soldered motherboard into -5 for 1 hour and wait 2 years 
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: thank god I live in California
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I've even seen snow in person
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: never even see
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Thats a sad tale
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also it can damage scanner glass
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: when I bought my first computer, they'd suggest to install two fans on case, one blowing inside and one to outside..  it sounded logical at the time.. but it's the worst idea ever.. in a few months, everything in case was covered in soot
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: haha I could but I hate cold, I'll look at snow on the mountains
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I suggest visiting neptune for the snow drifts and great snow boarding
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: They're already booked up for the season
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean if you use high resolution - after several cleaning with iso- glass can be damaged, not wisible with bare eye, but using microscope
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: and their seasons arelong
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nah, i got two large fans located in side pannel that blows clean air onto MB and GPU, one fan located at back top to extract
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: well I guess the black hole for glass then
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Cackle, is it clean air or "clean" air?
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can just use inlet filters to stop dust
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Thats something i want to purchase still
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Tol, clean air as well ventilated air
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just use nylon stocking
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: That will look ghetto
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: naw, it will just look like its about to rob a liquor store
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: But Trachx that is a valid solution
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess you could also use any HEPA filter
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Wouldnt you need to increase the airflow at that point with a hepa filter vs the stocking?
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: What can i put on my windows? to prevent dust
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Since dust is deaad skin cells it wont elp tht much
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: there's special mosquito nets that act as dust filters
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle gives Ullin a nod, saying, "OK".
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: antiseptic gauze is cheap and simple solution
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: that solves 2 problems, dust and mosquitoes entering in the mobo
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Heh, i can imagine how it will look like
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but it won't look good
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: You're like a Macgyver, Trachx
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I think ill only use fan filters lol
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Live on the Wild side
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: You cant imagine the ammount of dust that accumelates after 2 weeks in your mobo
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is also helps if your PC is not placed on concrete floor :P
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Heh, i know better ;)
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: its about 1 metere above ground lvl on glass desk
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess you've never seen PCs that work in coal fired boiler plants - just touch it and your hand is black :P
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: That's oddly cool
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Smirk* Those people dont even know how to operate an OS
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Why do you clean a PC tower?
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: For maximum performance and increased lifespam
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: for the chicks
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: nothing turns a woman away worse than a dusty cpu!
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: Not to long ago, when i powwered up my PC, it went dead after 1 min, this is because my psu fan was so clocked with dust it overheaded. now i know better
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: What if im Stronger enthusiastically high-fives [Outlaw] Mendaloth!
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: this was over 6 months with sidepanels off aswell
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: No im a germ phobe aswell
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: Watching PeyperView WWE Payback atm :)
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: miss
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: pure trance from Amsterdam.
T3/r7/2017-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Anyone have a Surface Pro 1 or 2?
T3/r7/2017-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm trying to create a new world set up in mush with as few plugins as possible, though when i add the aard mapper plugin it doesn't seem to work (seems unable to get gmcp data), any idea why?
T3/r7/2017-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i do have the gmcp handler installed
T3/r7/2017-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: just new world file or also new mushclient directory?
T3/r7/2017-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: got all required files there? 
T3/r7/2017-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: is it new world file in same mushclient folder or you doing a new mushclient folder?
T3/r7/2017-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: new world file in same folder
T3/r7/2017-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: hmm.. gmcp handler and gmcp mapper should be enough then... maybe try reconnecting
T3/r7/2017-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: have tried
T3/r7/2017-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: only thing is there is some require ffi error, but i get that with my other set up too (i think it has to do with backup databases)
T3/r7/2017-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: does "gmcpdebug 1" show gmcp data?
T3/r7/2017-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea it does
T3/r7/2017-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: (sorry boss)
T3/r7/2017-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but if i try to resize the mapper window, it tells me "Cannot draw map right now, I don't know where you are - try: LOOK"
T3/r7/2017-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: redryn: version?
T3/r7/2017-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh. that was a long time ago
T3/r7/2017-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hah
T3/r7/2017-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: basts event miniwin somehow got out of sync and is still showing my last cp .. cant remember if there was a command to 'reset/resync' it
T3/r7/2017-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: quit and reconnect?
T3/r7/2017-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: ... very odd. "get 1785775498 (260107)" works manually, and every other port * command works, but "get 1785775498 (260107)" refuses to work in port * command.
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, no, I lied. Silly me.
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Found out the reason.
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: port *?
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: anyone know how to convert all pages of a PDF to grayscale in one go in Irfanview?
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: or other similarly free software
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: I haven't tried it, but printing on a pdf printer (and choosing b/w) might do the trick.
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: that's a good idea
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: still showing up as 24BPP in Irfanview D:
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm now onto Adobe Acrobat Pro. 7 years of college and I'm spending my morning trying to reduce a file size.
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: they dont teach you what you need in the real qorld =x
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: world*!
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if I could get the whole damn document to convert to grayscale the way irfanview does it, I could compress through irfanview and this would be great.
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: what use is a diploma against a wild bear?  so, the same rules applies vs adobe products!!
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saemson Tech: wondering the best practice for upgrading to the newest client?
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saemson Tech: anyones?
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lifender Tech: Uh, doesn't it tell you the best way when you first open MushClient?
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lifender Tech: Still kinda new myself, but it was like a splash screen I think.
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saemson Tech: it told me that there was a new client, i downloaded, i looked at the readme, nothing in it to tell me how
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: find the file you downloaded and double-click it
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saemson Tech: uhh, course, lol.  I used peazip to unzip, got the file, just wondering which files are pertineant, and don't want to lose my db of shortcuts, variables, etc
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lifender Tech: also on http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm about mid way down says how to keep maps and such
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lifender Tech: so you don't delete or overwrite useful stuff you have saved.
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lifender Tech: Saemson, Did you find what I was looking at, on the website?
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: Someone had a plugin for player note.  Anyone know who it was/URL?
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: is there a plugin that manages keys?
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Not that I know of.
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What sort of key management is needed?
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: I meant keyring...to remove duplicates for example
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I thought the keyring helped with that.
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There are several keys that have the same name from different areas I thought.
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: the keys would most likely be different levels
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: there are several keys that do not have ways to discriminate other than area name in ID
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Several are the same levels.
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: ok...so you're saying it doesn't exist
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Pretty much what I said earlier.
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You could make one thoug.
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Demcia I am not being an ass. I am being straight forward in my responses. That is the hard part about text and conveying emotion and expression. If you feel like I am being an ass. You might need to understand that was not my intentions.
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: bah
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Damn this freaking allergy meds and steroids for my breathing.
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: what is wrong with my tick trigger, does not respond to pattern
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: regexp set, pattern is fine
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: but no response
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: what is your regex?
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: ^--> TICK <--$
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: tried escaping everything, negative
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: checked trigger enabled, it is
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: hrm, that should match
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: lots of things should do what they're supposed to do
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: personal experience says they seldom do
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: nod, mush leaves you with a lot of room for error
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: absolutely stumped on this though
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: pattern is fine and trigger does absolutely nothing, bloody useless
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Show a screenshot of your trigger window.
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: deleted and replaced trigger, regexp set, is enabled, pattern is fine.  no response
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: could latest snapshot have broke something?
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Show us your trigger window, jeezus. Don't make us guess.
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: it looks like everybody else's
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Ok, good luck with that.
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: untagging it from start and end of line made it work though
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: tagging it to start or end breaks it
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: why would that be?
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: guess I will just leave it untagged, it's just a tick trigger and doesn't send anything but a space
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: leave the ^ on, so that it doesn't trigger on random things
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: BOT!
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: it doesn't work with the ^
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tehngion & Tehngion Tech: not sure how mushclient handles triggers but maybe you have to set it as multiline or something?
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: the only thigns checked are enabled, regular expression.  send to script.  there is nothing unusual or remarkable about this and until today, it worked.  now it doesn't.
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tehngion & Tehngion Tech: is it possible you have additional tick information enabled, and are gagging the output through some other script?
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tehngion & Tehngion Tech: thus screwing the tick trigger?
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: it honestly wouldn't surprise me, I really do NOT like how some of these plugins gag stuff without my permission
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Just uninstall the tick plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tehngion & Tehngion Tech: try typing "tick" and see what happens
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: tried echoing that no response
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you install a plugin, then you are GIVING it permission
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: trigger works untagged, I'm just going to leave it like that since it's not a problem
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: that's ridiculous
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: And it's 'anchored'.  ^ and $ are anchors.
T3/r7/2017-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Yeah.  Anyway, thanks.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: why can't you click the gquest mobs in miniwindow for search and destroy?
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because I don't have search and destroy installed
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: ...Pretty sure I broke my MUSHclient and lost all my saved data.  Very sad panda right now.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lifender Tech: ...I know that feeling. I felt that pain.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lifender Tech: I now do thumbdrive backup all the time with it.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I didn't think to make a backup of it because I did what the update told me to do...
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wunderharke Tech: is there anyone who can help my with the text format und mushclient via wine?
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions?
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing is Absolute Tech: Brand new install of Mushclient r1913 snapshot. Nothing has been migrated yet. I installed only Bast eqdb, I get "Got a bad item, rerequesting inventory data for Inventory" when trying to look at my inventory. Any hints at what I should look at? Are these versions incompatible?
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I haven't had luck with Bast's eqdb in quite awhile, to be honest.  Not since I've been playing again for a few months at least.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: is invmon toggled on?
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing is Absolute Tech: yea, same result either way
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing is Absolute Tech: I will say my inv list looks different between version r1803 and r1913, Let me give an example, one moment
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You probably have serial numbers listed.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing is Absolute Tech: (6) (K) (Magic) (Glow) (Hum) a Bag of Aardwolf (161)   vs ( 6) (K)(M)(G)(H) a Bag of Aardwolf  [many]  (161)   I am aware that one is just shorter flags but Ill be honest, I don't know what the heck "many" is on that line.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing is Absolute Tech: Sounds like other people have issues with the plugin anyway, maybe time to go another direction.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish changed how inventory lists display in his included stuff
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I'm always nervous about updating
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: Nothing like having a working program, only to update it and ruin it
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: https://xkcd.com/1739/
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the bad item message, my guess would be a special character in one of your items
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: #1319 was always a fave of mine as well :-)
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: still trying to find update notes for latest snapshot
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can always disable the serial_numbers plugin with no adverse side effects...
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not in AardwolfPackageChanges.txt?
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: where would I find that, exactly?
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Root directory of Mushclient.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: root of MUSHclient folder
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: imo the inventory/eq management plugins are more work than they're worth.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: where can I look at the change notes before installing?
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: do what I did and spend 3 hours making a spreadsheet and triggers that you'll never update again because they're too time consuming
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can view them on the github site.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: impuritan: on the github website, click MUSHclient, click AardwolfPackageChanges.txt
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Git allows you to view the files before downloading them.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I don't see that link
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: start here: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I'm sorry, I'm in kind of a foul mood today and my patience level is running about 1% so forgive me if I seem a bit snippy
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click MUSHclient towards the bottom, and it'll show the contents of the MUSHclient folder
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scroll to the file and click it
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I'm frustrated at myself by updating and copying the new folder over the old one and...well, erasing all my aliases and my mapper db -.-
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: yeah, I don't see it
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: rember your mind's voice, backup all
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I can code my own stuff now anyways I guess
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you see the file/folder list?
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Indeed - never forgetting to keep a backup db now!
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should be the third file after the folders
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: it's completely out of order and I didn't see anything in there resembling patch notes or whatever
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: locale update mushclient to 5.05 Feb 3, 2017
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: that is the third line
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you don't have to go into the repo to see the list of changes
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they're shown on the installer download page
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: we play MUDs in 2017, we don't want anything to change, Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: locale is a folder...I said the third line after the folders...
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: hm I guess I will sit this out until whatever bugs with mush 5.06 are ironed out.  thanks though
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's just like a Windows Explorer window when sorted by name...folders first alphabetically, then files alphabetically...just to the left of locale should be a folder icon (but of course Fiendish gave the best answer)
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: oh, I see it.  Layout isn't much to my liking but I do see it now.  thanks.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: is 5.06 good or is it buggy?
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nothing's wrong with 5.06
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well, there's one thing, but I think it only affects people using Wine on linux
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and anyway it's not actually a new problem
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: though I do think it might be fixed in the next release
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also, Impuritan, you can't still be looking for update notes. I sent you a tell about where to find them hours ago
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: if I update to the next snapshot, does the mapper plugin get overwritten?
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: (and by extension, the customizations I've done to it?)
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Related to that, how does one update without overwriting these things?  Seeing as I did so and erased all my aliases and mapper this morning, I'd kinda like to not do that again.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Impuritan: I'm not sure. Lulz: You shouldn't lose your aliases.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not with the automatic update anyway.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I did. :X
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I just clicked the link that popped up in MUSH, and it sent me to a direct download page
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Only way is if you did it manually or installed it to a different directory.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I'm not the most literate pc person, but I'm going to assume that "copying and pasting the new folder over the old folder" qualifies as manual and probably stupid of me :p
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You don't need to do that.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You download it, run it, and it installs. Just make sure it installs to your current MUSH directory.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I suppose I can always back up my mapper, which I should probably do anyway since I'm playing with its code :p
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But yeah, if you copied/pasted, then your aliases are gone.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Run it?  It downloaded everything already though.  There wasn't an installation procedure, it was just "this is the new folder, it looks just like the old folder"
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I just clicked on the link the MUSH gave me (https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/), and I think I just misread the green text underneath the download button to mean "just put this same-looking new folder over the old one, and tada! you're done"
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I'm the king of screwing up simple PC procedures, don't ask!
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: hey even wiht dyslexia i screw stuff up like reading upside down and backward isnt enough...
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Impuritan: it will overwrite any of my plugins but not the settings files
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Lulz: sorry to hear about your situation. I will try to make the instructions more clear
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: is there a way to make an inventory window in MUSH?
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Already been done.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Madcatz has a plugin for that.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: where can I get it? Or do I have to pay for it or something?
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Finger Madcatz, get it from the link in his finger.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: oh wait, that just might be the container sort.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: that is so appreciated, you don't even know
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I know /someone/ has the inv window, though. Maybe Bast... hmm.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: darn
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: does anyone use the aardwolf_invertory_serials plugin? The latest mushclient version caused the keyring list command to no longer work
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Uh, keyring list works for me.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Just installed the serial, and sure enough, it works for me.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: keyring list, inv, etc.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I just upgraded Fiendish's Foreign Friends translator...
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Now it will tell you what language it was translated from.
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: "El nino come el pan" ---- translates from Spanish
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Bah
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: "El nino come el pan" ---- translates from Spanish; Castilian to ---> "The boy eats the bread"
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: where can I find docs for mushclient's lua socket library?
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: By searching for it on Google?
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: First link I came up with googling mushclient lua socket library: https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=4935
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: asked because all I was seeing was windows stuff, thanks
T3/r7/2017-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "caused the keyring list command to no longer wor" <- so what does it do? :p
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wunderharke Tech: is there someone who can help me with my aardwolfclient via wine?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what's up
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wunderharke Tech: it is running fine but the text format isnt right sometimes. e.g. the wolf at the login screen
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what's wrong with it?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: doesn't line up completely?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my next question is going to be what your output font is set to, so be prepared :)
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wunderharke Tech: I think there are newlines at the wrong points
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: interesting, what's your output font set to?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CoffeeBreak snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (now I tell you how to find it in case you don't know what it's set to)
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: press Alt+5
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and you'll see the output configuration settings
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's a box there called Font. It may or may not have the "Override with default" box checked, which is also important information
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wunderharke Tech: for main window its Liberation Sans regular 12pt
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: liberation sans isn't a monospaced font so ascii art won't line up correctly with it
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: can you switch to liberation mono?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I personally use Courier New, which I think I installed via the msttcorefonts package
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but that's just me
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: some things in Aardwolf just assume that everyone is using a font that allocates the exact same horizontal space to every character. not every font does that.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wunderharke Tech: it works with lib mono
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: fantastic :)
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wunderharke Tech: thanks _)
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wunderharke )
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: try @ :)
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the "@ " bypasses the conversion of : into an emote
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wunderharke Tech: )
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wunderharke Tech: :)
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wunderharke Tech: ahhh
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: technically you could do any invalid color code
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because Aardwolf just hides invalid @ codes. but then the line no longer technically starts with a : so it doesn't get converted to a channel emote anymore
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the same will work if you want to start with * too
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: otherwise you get a message about something not being a social
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wunderharke Tech: okay good to know
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also, since you're using Wine
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you ever experience a miniwindow turning partially or completely solid black, let me know
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'll ask you to try a new version of MUSHclient.exe
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wunderharke Tech: yesterday the mapper does
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah? well then you're in luck. I'm about to ask you to help me by downloading and replacing MUSHclient.exe with a different version
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: please download this https://github.com/nickgammon/mushclient/releases/download/latest_commit/MUSHclient.exe
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and then drop it into the folder to replace the one you currently have
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wunderharke Tech: okay
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm hoping that it will fix that issue. so far it's been good for me (I also use Wine)
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wunderharke Tech: I'll try. I think the mapper didn't managed the switch to battlemode on stomship
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you have any other problems or questions let me know
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wunderharke Tech: okay :) see you 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wunderharke Tech: still here?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just making sure?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: lazy helpers.   :p
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: fiendish, what version number are you up to with mush?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: package version or executable version?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: the number that comes up in checkversion
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: r1913
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thanks.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: all the details are at https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: cool
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'll probably be updating to r1914 in a couple days to fix a very old but rare bug where miniwindows sometimes turn black
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so far I haven't gotten any actionable reports about problems in r1913
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (other than that, but that's not actually a new problem)
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Hmm, LCD monitor in use. Does it even matter to have darker near black colour on screen then white bright colour? To save power and heat emmition.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: leds / tubes are always on
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Thats what i was thinking kinda, so a full white desktop wallpaper will emit same temp as all black
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle rapidly nods twice at Deuter, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: full white will emit more temp, while black will accumulate more :P
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Yes?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Ahh ty man
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: that is because LCD crystals either stop light or let photons flow through them
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: so you could consider LCD monitor as photon beam
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Yip
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: And to reach the deepest black colour on your screen you also need to lower brightness like me?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Or else the black is looking not that dark
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Im using a 1050$ LCS 40inch 1080P Sony Bravia Flagship tv
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: there is no real black on LCD screen - quite easy to spot if you are in black room and compare black LCD to CRT
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I feel when lowering it to 50% brightnes the black looks dead black, since my tv got a very high contrast ratio, and this is needed for a good gaming experiece, the power of the backlight turned to 100% makes the black not that black and makes it glo
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: CRT have real nice black yip
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: many screens designed to be televisions instead of computer monitors will use dynamic brightness to reduce backlight power in dark sections
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: right, in such case - darker LCD uses less power
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: That sounds like a smart tv Fiendish, since i bought mine in 2009 i dont think i have access to that feature
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle nods at Deuter.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I must say, I was sceptical when I build my PC tower, it was intented to be a semi decent modern gaming rig minus the PC monitor. So i thought in place of the monitor i buy a better cpu and gpu. Ultimatly i didnt expect my TV show the pixels so clearly and 60 refresh rate is a bonus
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: In my eyes a TV is better then most PC monitors due to cost
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: wikipedia says that local backlight dimming was first done in 2003
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: but TV usually are big
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: if you sit 2ft/0.6m from monitor - then using 40" is not really best idea
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I mean you need probably turn your head to look at top left and then bottom right
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Sitting about 1.8metre from head to TV is the best distance to view 1080p gaming, i researched it on some reddit forum. So i mesaured my my distance out, it looks quite good, not to intrusive
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: ON a 40inch that is
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Not at all deuter
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: It is shown on a graph on that site, with screen size and best viewing distance
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I was sitting to close at first when playing Counter Strike Go and Overwatch, like 1,2metre. The gaming experience was very bad due to head tilting
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: viewing distance is crucial when playing on a big tv
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: right, you need to find a distance where you are able to see pixels then move just 1cm further :P
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: that guarantees best sharpness
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Yip :) move to far and you cant appreciate the graphical features like anti analiasing, anistophic filtering etc
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Move to close lol, and you will become like a chameoleon
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I even Obses to have the middle of my forehead right in line with my weapons crossair
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: You really need to have a good PC chair aswell
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: i replaced my cushioned pc chair on wheels, with a leather lounge recliner aka lazy boy chair :P
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I don't know if dxracer still makes chairs but I find them to be very comfortable for long term computer use.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: logo is a bit cheesy but eh can't see it when your booty is in it
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Are those gaming controllers like the playstion version you buy from cheap shops compatible on win 7? Thats all i need atm, playing emulating games from various systems on PC via Keyboard is a real drip
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: generally speaking.. a generic wired xbox 360 controller works best on windows though
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Thing is Fetard then i will have to buy an xbox 360 or just the controller for it. When you buy at cheap shops thos controllers are like 20% of the price
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: gamestop made generic wired xbox 360 controllers for like $20 usd, they're probably even cheaper now
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle gives Failurette Noegel a nod, saying, "OK".
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: NODnod, its here like 15$
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: So it will work in win &
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: win 7?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: absolutely, if it is meant to work for an xbox 360, windows 7 will have native drivers for it (they're both microsoft products)
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I mean you dont get a cd with it for drivers
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle is expressing how much wootness Fetard exhibits.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: nope. you don't need them. it's a native device according to windows :D
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Im so choked now :D
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Its so cheap. all i want is a playstation like controller, because i play playstation 1 and 2 games via emulator, thats why i realllly need L1 L2= R1 R2 buttons. and i see this controller im talking about also have dual shock and analog sticks
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I dont know if a Xbox controller have those L and R 4 buttons
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Heh, some PC games like need for speed most wanted 2 etc dont hace a vibrating option in its settings, but these generic PC controllers even vibrate when you hit the pavement or rev your caar etc in various degrees of vibrating strengths! that is so awesome
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I mean how does the game know how to vibrate this controller
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: controller->vibra->start
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I sometimes use simple gamepad controller to play aard
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: HUH? the PC games dont have any options regarded vibrating when you are setting up keys, so how does it knows when to send vibrating to the controller, perhaps a hihidden feartre
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nod Trachx, a PC controller would do good if your pupping and and simple lvling
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: it's in the code of the game, say you shoot a gun, game checks if a controlles is connected, if it's connected vibrate
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: That is nice Coffee. It even send various degrees of shock values
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: yeah, DirectX has those options afaik
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: But yet again, most games dont have this fancy feature, not even a mosquite bite size vibrating when shooting a cannon, nothing zilth, if it have vibrations it dont have many varyaionts , this is a example of low budget games
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: it's not hard to set vibrations though, so if the developer wants to use it, it's a minor thing to do
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Oh it has. I dont see it in DXdiag when running it from windows RUN command, it must be the DirectX driver itdelf
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle gives CoffeeBreak a nod, saying, "OK".
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I got DirectX 11 vua Win 7 Ultimate, is it worth it to upgrade to win 10 for DirectX 12?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I would only upgrade if game needs that
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but I just do not like win 10
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you want a game that vibrates go play Rez
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: OK, I dislike win 10 for all the background data it consumes, im on a 3G dongle with set ammoubnt of data per month, and that wont do. DirectX 11 looks pretty cool in farcry 3+4 crysis 3 etc. I just thought DX 12 would give me more graphical features, but i cant imagine it looks any better
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Rez huh
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Fiendish - I dont want a full blown Armageddon vibration game, only a game thats intelligently coded to send subtle vibrations from the enviroment.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: But if that game is vibrating in tempo to gaming music im in
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: i want a vibrating game
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I wonder if a Xbox controller can vibrate when hooked up to aard?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I dont think so.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: And why are everybody refering to a Xbox controller whenever i talk about generic controller<>?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: PS3+4 controllers dont hace PC plug and play support?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Im 100% a Sony fan, first i vendured into playstation1 and it tottaly blew my mind. I had a 366mhz pentium2 at the time, and when i saw the PLaystation i drooled.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: Yeah, I'm a sony guy myself, but those controllers do NOT like to work on a pc.. only problem with sony is they always introduce propreitary standards
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Then I saw DirectX/OpenGL games like Half Life 1 and sold my playstation with the mind set to buy a better PC.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle gives Fetard a nod, saying, "OK".
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: and that's a never ending battle to upgrade all the time
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: but but dude
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: At the same time about playstation 1 came out, old PC games looked bad, around 1999 the games went DirectX and all smooth graphics and not these blocky stuff like PS
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Myst was only exeption with photo realistic scenes
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: At this age Fetard. If you own a semi decent cpu and ammount of ram,psu etc. You just have to purchase a cool GPU to be set for a nice gaming experience for the next few years. In my eys GPU is the most important part of a build
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: While technology evolves every week, and your top of the range setup goes into the background, you can still game quite good with decent 1080p fgraphics
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fetard is agreeing with that A Demonic Cackle person again...
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I never been an AMD or ATI fan. Always it weas western digital,Intel,MSI, Corsair
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Ofcourse Nvidia
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I only got a 180$ Geforce GTX 1050 TI Ocerclocked gamingX 2Gig gddr5 1490 core clock mhz, I7, 8gig ram, but most modern AAA games i can play from meduim to high on 1080P
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Its a MSI card with two fans
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: That is nice. I was looking into getting a water cooling system for my video card. It looks possible just not very popular and only works with specific cards. 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Really dude? isnt that very dangerous due to leakage
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: I used to think similar to you about water cooling. I have a system setup on my processor, and I have had no issues.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I only sufface with 2 intake and one outake fans on strategic positions, and it works like a charm. Hmm but I live in a semi tropical country
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: You have a rock solid warrantee i take it from said installions
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: You can also use oil
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: Nice, yeah, I understand what you mean. It is all about that airflow. I did have rock solid warrantee, about 5 years ago. lol Still up an running and no issues.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nice! Only time when i will do a setup like your man, is when i purchase all parts from same PC store and they install it for me
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: So you never have to replace the water? Or does it hace some cooling agent like you have in cars
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: I completely understand what you mean. I would do the same, but low funds put me in a position of doing different. Impressive video card by the way. Nvidia made a good choice to use Intel processor.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: most of them are sealed units, I have one on my extra pc at home... you can do a custom build that's not a closed loop system but that is a little more risky
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: I have yet to have to replace the water or do any maintenance. I keep an eye on temps and they stay pretty steady.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Thanks man, I really appreciate your view, I did review alot of sites and gaming benchmarks before i purchaed my GPU, and I must say it is really worth the bang for buck
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Thanks man, I really appreciate your view, I did review alot of sites and gaming benchmarks before i purchaed my GPU, and I must say it is really worth the bang for buck
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Whats your cpu and MB temps like under load?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Under load i mean 50 to 90%]
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: Yeah, Ati used to be whats up, but that has definitely changed. The only thing I struggle with nvidia, is the support for older games. I have helped people trying to get old games to work with nvidia, and have struggled. lol I don't remember the stats for temps under load. It has been a minute since I have run any benchmarks. Lost interest for a while, and have forgotten.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: MY gpu is overclocked via MSI Afterburner software to 1710mhz core clock and runs at a average temp of 85 degrees celcuis, my CPU is 49 and mb is 39
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I can help you with older games, since im a retro gamer at heart, and only play games mainly from 1988 to 2006
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: There are various sollutions to make a game work that are not intented for 64bit systems, or newer OS etc
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I know dude, back in 2004 AMD was the bomb, it competed with pentium 4 but at a lower cost
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: AMDs graphics is ATI, and it rocked in some games,but yet again Nvidia always kick ass due to mhz boost
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I Overclocked my my GPU bu like 300 mhz core clock, like wtf. It took many system freezes and game artifhacts but it works at the end of the day, i blancaded it all
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: good evening. i need some help with a menu button on a phone please?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Blowtorch ?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Evening
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: Yeah, those bigger cards with more power, always run hot. My video card runs a similar average tem. Which is why I considered rigging a cooling system to video card. Not sure why it isn't more popular of an idea. I take apart my video card on occasion to reapply the thermal paste. Yeah, ati has unsolvable graphic hiccups. Done a lot of research on it to try and fix it. Bought a pc for the purpose of crossfire, but it kinda sucks with the grapcial issues. May go down the nvidia route when I by my nex card, and would appreciate the assistance with older games. 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: yes, blowtorch. it was there and the next moment it was gone 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: its the menus buton that shows with 3 dots
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Sidenis, please go the Nvidia route
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Hold yuur phone in paralel view
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: like a tv
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: haha! Yeah I know it is the better route now. Just trying to get all that I can out of my current card before I buy another one. I do like amd for it's ability to handle processes. It is great for video processing.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: So Sidenis you always been an AMD and ATI user and never ecperienced the joy of being geforce and intel??
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: nothing happens man cackle lol make me look crazy if i do that 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nod nod, Your cards in general is good for some games but not at all in general like Nvidia, In the rare case ATI will whip Nvidias ass in some released games. but thats solely due to dricvers
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: Yeah, always ati/amd. Very loyal, until the last couple years. I have considered nvidia on multiple occasions, but I have always went with ati for the cost. I regret that decision.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Atomic cant you see the 3 dots on top right corner at all?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: nothing at all cackle. it is missing in action 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Side dude, AMD is out of the game for ages now, even mid term graphics cards oupperformes topnototch ati cards in most cases
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Atomic, you want to see those 3 dots?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [HELPER] Fetard TOTALLY HELPERED Atomic!
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: yes please cackle as i need it later on 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I mean Side, back in 2006 AMD and ATi was still a decent competitor for intel and Nvidia, these last few years we run away from them benchamrking aka gaming wize, just drop a few more $ and buy intel and nvidia
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Atomic, exit blowtorch, and enter that app again
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: Lol, you are right, Cackle. I see what you are saying, but I became far more knowledgeable only after I bought ati. To completely redo my system requires funds I don't currently have, thought this will be a route for exploration next time. I have looked at the nvidia benchmarks and see how much better it handles games in comparison to ati. 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Touch on the screen far north east side with any finger Atomic, im not sure if its ur brightnes, but it must be there, it should compute commands
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: You are seeing the light my man :D
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Sidenis, once you expericed the geforce ecperience you wont look back, i mean any game you play now the frames per second dont go below 60 like wtf
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: nothing but nothing 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Side, If you buy a Nvidia card, do you have an idea of whioch model to buiy?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Put your finger on right hand corner and fish for the menu drop down?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: did it work? 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: nope 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Atomic please download V2 Test client from happygoatstudios, just google it, its most up to date
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: The prior versions are full of crap
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: on numerous systems
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: and does it work on phones Cackle?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sidenis ) Yeah, took some time to see it, but the evidence suggests that Intel/nvidia is the future of gaming. Impressive how they made such a turnaround. I wonder if ati will be able to accomplish something similar at one point. They need to quit focusing on quantity and focus on quality. Not sure yet, I would have to look at my mobo documentation to see what nvidia cards are supported. The main focus of this mobo was for crossfire.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Of course, ive been mudding via btorch on that client i mentioned for 3 years
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: on 4 inch phone lol
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: It is good that you are using MSI Afterburner. What a nice software for tweaking.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nod Side, im still reading your last post bte, and yup, MSI afterburner is freewware and top odf the line, i can even capture high quality vids qwith that and becnhmark my frames, even cap all frames to set value, atm im capping my gaming frames to 60 to reduce gpu and cpu heat
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Crossfire is like two graphics cards in use right
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: thanks Cackle will try 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Blowtorch V2 test beta happygoatstudios
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: NP, just google that
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nod Nvidia is the future, your statement holds ground
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: Nod Cackle, I didn't really know what I was missing until I found afterburner. I understand why you would cap the frames at 60, ati struggles with this sometimes. I am back and forth with that concept. Not as knowledgeable when it comes to fps and refresh rate of my monitor which plays a part with game quality. Yeah, crossfire is multiple cards, and this seemed like a great idea. Share the load, and less stress on both cards. Got two, but the heat of them combined was outrageous as the mobo has them located right next to each other. : /
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: lol mine isnt 4 inch its bigger 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsloth's Tsarikos Tech: that's what he said
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Chuckles* I thought Intel and Nvidia rules this world... Every now and then i will be jerked down to earth and notice some cave dwellers still uses linux and amd and ati
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: It was a joke OK, we all are human beings
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fetard hides his amd/ati linux box that serves faithfully at home.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle sends a death swaud after Fetards family
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: squad
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: granted, I don't use it for gaming purposes beyond counterstrike... it's mostly a media server
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Yup Linux as created by Bill Gates comrade after some dispute, pretty decent OS, pretty horrid for new age gaming
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: lol, I got the joke, and it was appreciated. Yeah, don't hate on linux too much. :p There is a lot of graphical potential with Linux based OS. Less clutter an more focused on what is necessary to get the most out of your setup. Less support though too, gotta know what you are doing. I haven't gone down that route yet, because of what the transition would require.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle rapidly nods twice at Fetard, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: Yeah, but unbeatable for reliablity, uptime and network services. 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Dudes, all you that think you are geeks and "think" you can micro manage your OS, listen here,,, You don need linux to be simplistic. Les is mre i get it, im also OCD. Just master windows like me into micro detail and you will have full power over your commands. Any PRO PC user doesnt matter what OS it is wont blame their short comings on the OS. Windows is the big nac daddy and always wil be, Just learn to harness its power !!! lol man its so easy to take power and take controll over every detail!
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Linux is symplistic for coders and non gamers i take it
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: You shouldn't have to micro manage linux either.. It's a lot of setup and tweaking, and then it's basically on autopilot
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Isnt micro managing and tweaking where the fun is at
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: I would have said so when I was younger and triple booted operating systems for fun, and when I had months to get everything how I wanted it until I got bored. Not so much anymore
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: any one serious about being a well rounded computer geek will master all the major OS's Windows, Unix, Linux, iOS, and Andriod at the very least.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fetard is agreeing with that Emm person again...
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: and Solaris
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: much like programing languages once you have mastered a couple it gets relatively easy to master the rest.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Different strokes for differnet folkes is waht happening here, Im baised now. I only believe in Windows for its unprecidented gaming experience and the raw ammount of individual settings/tweaks you can do for your likening
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: At least enough to be able to navigate them, fix minor issues and know where to look for help with the more complex problems.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: difference between being a gaming geek and a computer geek.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Cackle you can tweak live uber crazy with tweaking
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: Karang, Solaris *is* a true UNIX though. 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: erm with linux
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: brb , i need to pee
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: You got me there.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: if you just care about gaming then you can stick with windows.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imparsable HazeKnight Tech: this should have moved to gossip or other channels a long time ago
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Oh comon really?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't agree
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think this conversation is great
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: I understand why microsoft created windows the way they did, and it has purpose. From tech standpoint, windows has a lot of stability issues, and is a complete resource hog.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: it is a conversation about techie stuff isn't it?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Windows 2000 was a beast that was solid
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: nah, it's just gossip about operating systems!!
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Let's call the tech channel computer geekiness
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: You know, people often say that windows has stability problems, but I don't think I can agree since like at least a decade ago
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: TMI, but Emm, im a pure gamer and tweaking freak. I like to manage my windows in every possible term to get the most out of it. I appolaigize to Linux people, we are aard people and so you wont all be windowes users, so this here, right now, is like a first for me, im encountering Linux people for the firt time, wow. What draws you to Linux??? i know its quite good at coding, simplisting commands (less is more). you donr get many viruses like windows. but at the end of this day.. I want a OS that gives me most freames pers second in any game and the power to tweak all day the settinfgs to my likening
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: well, I hated windows till windows7.. before that.. all their os would just like to crash at anything..
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think windows7 is the most popular OS in the world right now
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but windows10 is actually pretty high up there
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Im on win 7 Ultimate Fiendiesh
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle enthusiastically high-fives The Jerk Fiendish!
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Nearly all those are untrue about linux
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: well, after so many years of re-formatting computer every 3 months, this is 5th year on this format.. so, i am not changing!!
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: really the problem was 8, which was so radically changed it scared people
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: That's exactly it, Cackle. Not everyone is intent on hardcore gaming. There's also the alure of free open-source software (Especially important in a commercial setting where licensing actually gets enforced)- Some people run servers. Windows *has* gotten much better in recent years on the stability front but for a long time people got fed up with the BSOD. 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Gosh Almila, i dont format, that is for newbiwes
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: lol.. you don't format?  you must be very young..
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: What? Reformatting is for newbies? lol
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: fwiw, Cackle, as a linux user myself, the reason I use it is because of package repositories and also because I believe in free software
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle bows before Fetard.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: When i talk i talk gaming wise, may it be hardeare, OS etc
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I was actually one of the top point winners in a windows forum for many years for only suggesting people to format their os..
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Almila flexes his muscles...what a stud!?!
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: Gotta reformat on occasion, new install works wonders.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nod Fiendiesh, Lnux wind hand down in those ragards
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: in any case, apparently you never used linux.. why are you trying to take sides against sth you don't even know?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Windows has Chocolatey now, and the linux subsystem thing in the new windows10 looks nice
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: So your a closet windows admirirer Fienddish :P
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no, I'm a fan of advancement
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: for all I care silicon based life forms should be ruling the whole universe but we never met them yet.. :P
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Ahoi
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Silicon is good ;)
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: All my info/statemenst was made from a PC gamers\Micro manage OCD point of view, Linux is a very very good OS! but its not the best
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: so, windows is not the best either
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Heck no
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: linux is definitely not great for AAA games
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: what is the point?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Almila: I think the point is only that some people really like playing new games
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: i take my methophorcal hat off for the linux peeps, they are well knowledged people
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: but is it enough of an argument to dis another os?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but Linux is definitely the best for programming in Python
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Is cackle dissing? I didn't see that
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: assuming sth is superior is actually dissing
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but it is superior if what you want is to play AAA games
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just not universally
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aisling Tech: Somebody got all bent out of shape... All he said, was that he enjoys his gaming more, which means Windows OS for him. O.o
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you'd think that windows shot your pa or somethin
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Different stroke for differnet folkes yet again... If your a gamer you will vote for windows, if your a software designer aka coder the y will vote linux, both OS is supreme in heir own ffiels
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: actually, if you're doing C++ dev, you probably stll want to go with windows, because MSVC is hands down the best IDE for C++
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Thats why fiendiesh is the best here.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but ruby people all seem to use Macs, and Python people all use linux
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: I find mac frustrating. Worked internet tech support, and mac calls were the worst.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: Very rigid operating system.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: did they ever change to two button mouse?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Can we agree windows is best for any sort of gaming, and linux is best for any kinf of coding?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: really it seems... laid back
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: of course they have two button mice lol
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: That is probably more because the average mac user isn't as tech savvy - they tend to be the creative types. Once you get under the hood of MacOS X it's basically just BSD
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: the last mac I used, should be about 15 years ago, had only 1 button.. :P
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: What's so hard about a command button?  Are they called command buttons?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah. I really like macs too, but I also grew up with them and really miss the classic era
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Linux cant even handle the simplest forms of directx 9
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Oregon Trail ftw
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it can handle OpenGL tho
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, Windows cannot even handle simple tmpfs (which allows you to mount some part of your RAM as ramdisk for temporary storage)
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: futile old versions yess
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: That's by design. DirectX is a proprietary microsoft thing. 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: a lot of dev companies are moving to vulkan now
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: until *very* recently Microsoft intentionally made sure their libraries couldn't be ported to / ran on linux. 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so linux native game support should improve in the future and will only continue being held back by mediocre graphics drivers
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Yes by ATI
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, Windows 7 does not support new CPUs (OTOH I wonder whether Linux 2.0 will work with new I7)
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: Steam on Linux has done quite a bit to enhance the gaming experience of Linux, I'll agree it's still lightyears behind what's possible on a Windows machine, but at lot of that is because of the resistance of commercial developers to port their software to an open source platform
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: Yeah, that is why I see linux as the future. It is the potential, and I don't understand why people are resistant to it.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that's because porting games to Linux means either you need drop DirectX or develop 2 versions DirectX one and Linux one
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: shh, people was seeing linux as the future when I was 30 years younger!!
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and DirectX is not just graphic
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Linux is not intentended for gaming, no matter  how how hard yall try, you wont catchupp
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: OR, forget the proprietary nonsense microsoft requires (and the insanity of their licensing system) and port the open source alternatives to be used on windows machines? 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but still Linux is good for other things like databases
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: linux = save money 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: linux is not not intended for gaming either.  it's just game developers have limited resources, just like the rest of us.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have Openedge on Windows Server, then to improve its performance it is recommended to apply linux patch :P
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I agree, fort non gaming purposes  linux are superior, but its such a giggle to hear licux fans thinkinh they wll make a dent in the gaming sense
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: There's also virtual machines, and dual booting. Best of both worlds. 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Best have a geforce gpu and intell cpu for that VM then
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: Woot, virtual machines are whats up. Love that concept.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: it's not like a computer is 10k$ now.. you can afford a few probably.. :P
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: I virtualize my own physical servers in the office even, much easier to restore / backup if something gets borked with windows 2012
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what's linux 2.0
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I'm guessing Kernel
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but the kernel is at 4.12 or something
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe 4.9
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: There were previous versions ya know =p
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh I see
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh yeah, speaking of linux and things...
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did someone here say they're using linux?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Linux is very good for coders and their sort, Windows is best for gaming when your after frames per seconds and performance. Amen
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: have used.  not actively using right now.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (ok ok)
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nah, I need people who are using it right now and who also use mushclient in wine
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: well, I guess technically, it runs the vms at work, but no active native development.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Fiendish, your latest Tech board note is quite intuative
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: although Linux world is full of different distros like RedHat, Centos, Debian, Ubuntu, etc., and those have different version numbers, in fact all are Linux + additional packets - so usually you can just get binary from Centos and use it on Ubuntu (as long as you have support libraries and kernel)
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I try my best
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so to be specific Linux = kernel, although popular term Linux is used as description for distro
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish is about to spray Mr. Santa Claud with some burnt marbu but realizes that perhaps -/\/Crimson\/\- is a more efficient blinding method.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my friends tell me we should say GNU/linux 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: because they're lawyers?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no, because many support the FSF
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I mean, sure some are lawyers
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: or put another way, does that help communicate more effectively in most contexts?  "linux" likely suffices.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://www.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.en.html tries to explain why
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: fiendish if I update to the newest snapshot, will it overwrite my mapper?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: or rather, overwrite my customizations to it?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Impuritan: yes, it will overwrite the plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but you can make a backup of your changes
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Impuritan: the installer will overwrite everything except for configuration/state files and your room database
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I'm not very good at debate, but stallman's point of repeating a name like a mantra won't impact the business interests that wish to co-opt the technology.  the name's a moving target.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: get everyone saying "gnu/linux", and the average person will forget why that name held value just like they don't care that the name "linux" had value.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah probably
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think at some point people who make something kinda just like to get credit for it
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I could wish it was different.  I like much of what FSF stands for, for instance.  but once something goes mainstream, the language becomes what the marketers make it.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: sure, no arguments there.  but most people wouldn't absorb that knowledge anyway: "what's the GNU stand for in GNU/linux?"  "no idea.  don't care.  when's Dancing With The Stars on next?"
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aerdan Tech: does anyone know about buttons for the mobile client?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Zoot Tech: if you want to get rid of a button that you don't want, long-press down on it for the option to delete
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aerdan Tech: it's letting me move it around but there's no options popping up.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe hold down longer?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: press and hold, try not to move your finger.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aerdan Tech: nevermind i didn't hold it down long enough
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aerdan Tech: thank you guys
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: also, there's an option that will lock a button in place to help prevent you from moving it accidentally
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: Freeze, on the Advanced tab
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: I'm trying to create a map window in mudlet, and I have the windows created, and can print in it, but I'm having trouble capturing the 17 or so lines between MAPSTART and MAPEND. 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Can I put selectCurrentLine in a for loop?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: to capture and gag mulitple lines?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: doesn't mudlet already have a map window?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (also only 2 players online using mudlet, so it might be hard to find help)
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: if I need to go a specif room num, how can I go there?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: IIRC, 'mapper goto roomnumber'
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: In mush, yes
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ah, nm.  walked into a convo already in progress.  ignore me
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: If I am in a maze and I now the ID from next room, but I am in a previus room, mapper got works?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: mapper goto*
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: not if it's a maze where the exits change each tick, no
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: like partroxis
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: does not work in Partroxis
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mohan cries on Bishoujo Raded's shoulder.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded comforts Mohan.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: how can I make somenthing that prevent me coming back to previus rooms when I navigate there?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the way mapper finds paths is it knows what rooms are connected by what direction. if it's a maze, its not able to figure out that direction, even if you know the room ID#s will always be connected
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: with that one you have to learn the way it works.  takes time
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: something that uses exits and room names each step, similar to how you'd do it manually
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: nods Raded, but I dunno how to make it
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: most of the rooms in there only one exit is has the right name, you gotta know which room is next.  
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: sometimes there are two rooms with the same name, then its a 50/50 shot.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: nod, even with a script, it'd still be a 50/50 shot because the script would have no way of knowing which step would be correct
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: yes you are right, but any way to make somenthing if it come back prevent to do the same mistake?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: probably, beyond me though
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I went through and in each room I have a mapper note with the room #, which room comes next, and if it's a 50/50 room, which room the wrong one takes me to.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: so, can you just type the right room with the id?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: then I just write down which one works for each 50/50 so if I guess wrong, i can get back super quickly and go the other direction.  with a 15 min repop time I can usualy get to any room I need
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ni, room IDs are useless in mazes
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: what mob are you trying to get to?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: for example "It" in partroxis, in room 33, but still hada have to avoid rooms that make me go back some times
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: if you're using mush, get galaban's partroxis plugin?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: are you trying to get to room 33?  wow.  doable, but not fun.  :p
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: it's much easier to go to anyone with that plugin for sure
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: anyone = any room
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: just an example, because yesterday I tried it like 5 times but failed because the time for repop
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: okim usng mushclient.. why shoud i get a patroxis plugin? im just asking
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: almila where can I get it?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: hmm.. google it I guess.. I found it on there too i think..
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: im interested in it too... my system works, but maybe his is better?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: i didnt ask how to get it i asked why get it?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: if you're a sitting sh, you get quests there and it's not easy to go through it with memory alone
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: https://github.com/galaban/partroxis
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: and a sh cp has a high chance to have mob in there too
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: This plugin provides "guides" through the Partroxis maze. When you enter a room in the maze, the guide will provide the correct direction. If multiple directions exist, the guide will show you the two possibilities. If you choose wrong, the next time you enter the room, that exit will not be shown.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: There is also a speedwalk function that will return you to the last correct room in the maze: "partroxis return"
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: thanks a lot Almila
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: yep.. only annoying thing is, everytime I enter new, it asks me if I want to activate it..  I damn well do
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: BY DEFAULT, these guides are not enabled. You will not receive any help. Re-enter the area or use "partroxis guide" to turn the guides on.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: yeah.. need to make it default on after entering new
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that might be to prevent bleed-over from the last time through, since the exits will all be different?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: it resets if area resets when you're in it
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: and if you're in the room after entering new.. you're definitely at the start of maze.. 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: reading right now
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: and if it resets while your not in it?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: it always resets when you're at first room I guess
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: there was a rule agains scripts for mazes?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oH... "entering new" the comannd to get into that part of the area.  got it.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: it doesnt walk it for you, it tells you which direction to go.  difference I imagina
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I heard that script is ok'ed by imms.. 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: was that on breitbart?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: what is breitbart?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: my favorite maze is prosper. its a maze but it makes sense. because a theatre is a theatre. 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: ok that just went over my head...  ooo but thank you for the github address. yay!!!
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: pretty much all else is just random something
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: prosper doesn't have so many rooms named same.. like there is only 2x behind the stage
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: damn, it type twice the address
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i dont know what that means
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish giggles.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: if I click and it needs to move west side it types w and west
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that would be a problem.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: try typing it yourself and adding a ::sl after it.  :p
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i meant a ;sl
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: doesn't works
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: still types it first
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: do you want some help?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i can guide you through
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: of course
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: just trying to dofor my self, because you will be not here always than I need it
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: true
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: to get back to the begining hunt dragon
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: trying to find the problem with the plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: repop is soon.. lets get your mob, then worry about the plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: so
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: hi
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: do re mi fa so la ti do
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: i need some help
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera sighs.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: he didnt read the note
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: surely not
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tol falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what's up, Eldist
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: note?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: board tech, note read 7314
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: nevermind.. give us all the info.. dont make us ask for it.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: or go read that note.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: you need to write a note telling people to read the note!!
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera giggles.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: or.. have the text of the note come up automaticly when you turn the channel on.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: everyt time u use a cast command soul rip is put i.front of it and it makes the slpell invalid nobody can tell me how to fix this
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 'soul rip' is going in front of all of your casts?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: yes every kne. like if i cast bless iy ses soul rip bless cant be cast
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: try cas bless
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: same thing?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also try 'c 5'
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: without the ''
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: it worked that time
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: you've got 'cast' alaisd
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: (is that a word?  aliased?)
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: how do k fix it?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: type alias
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: see if it's in there, if it's not, then it's clientside
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: (yes its a word. its plural for alias)
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: i see it. thank you jm sorry to have botherd yall
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that was an easy one.  :)
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Cera you are hired for all tech questions :p
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hell no
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: have a njce day
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: you aint botherin anybody.. thats why questions are supposed to be asked yousillyperson
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i keep this chan on so I can GET help...  :)
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I keep it on to *try* and help out the already overworked few who usually help
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: plus everyone has questions now and then... even me! buahahahha
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Also, I do it to relay critical puns toward Fiendish and Abelinc
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: always so critical
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i think I'm going to start a new civ6 game.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Hey, not my fault your Abelinc script is faulty(read cranky)
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's not in my control anymore. Abelinc became sentient at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th 1997
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Yeah, the deep Abe project seems to have taken a life of its own.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: are we waiting for judgement day now?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: It even has copies of itself now.. it reproduced into magna and a few others..
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: help, I have tried to make several triggers but, none of them fire.  I am useing MushClient.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Give an example of a trigger you tried to create...
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Have you tried a simple trigger just to see it matching?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And walk us through how you think the trigger should be created.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: trying to create a sound that will cast the ballistic atack spell when in combat with mobs.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can't trigger off sounds.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: so, I can't make sound triggers?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can make sound triggers, but you cannot trigger off sounds.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: ok, hears another example.  I tried to make a sound trigger that will notify me that I've gained a level.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, okay, you're trying to trigger off something to send a sound to you?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: so you want it to play a sound when it sees the text for gaining a level?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The way you phrased it earlier sounded like you wanted to send a sound and have it do something. Voice commands and all...
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne imagines someone sitting on their couch yelling, "backstab dwarf" and "cast ballistic missile" over and over.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I am so setting that up now
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: something like that but, i just found out that won't work.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: maybe I have the definition of sound trigger wrong.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: a trigger is one event causes (Triggers) another event.  In mud clients, the trigger is text that is received. When I receive the "now you can quest" message, my mushclient plays a sounds to get my attention.  You can create aliases which do a thing based on input from the user - like when I type qc, I run to a questor and tell it that I completed my quest.
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: you could use a voice-to-text program to convert your speech to text and send that like you typed it.  then mush would act on what you 'typed' (by speaking to the voice-to-text program). 
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: so, how do I make a sound trigger in the trigger configuration?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: look for it, it's there
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: bottom right part
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: should NVDA read the trigger and result as it fires?
T3/r7/2017-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inicus Tech: Anyone familiar with fastbooting android phones?
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish burps loudly.
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: How do I capture Fiendish and use it in a trigger ?    [12 May 10:56:48] (Friend): Fiendish has entered Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are a couple of ways. the funniest way would be to use the external function call advanced feature of the text substitution plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it would definitely work, but I don't recommend that approach for this
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: How loud is 75 db ?
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: http://www.noisehelp.com/noise-level-chart.html
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: examples are toilet flushing & vacuum cleaner
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: So that is poor Bass from a subwoofer.
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Heh and its a Creative brand.
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Sec let me get that advert paper with the details
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horg Tech: How do I enable pressing return to repeat commands in TinTin?
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: #config repeat on
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horg Tech: Thank much!
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: my wifes computer got the blue screen of death and unbelievabley never got around to making backup disks so were going to have to buy windows 10, anything i should know about instaling it, drivers, etc?
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Windows 10 is pretty much set it and forget it. there might be some privacy settings you want to tweak though.
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: wow, thats a relief
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: certain things like graphics drivers maybe
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but usually these days you go to the device manufacturer's website and they give you a set of downloads
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: ah, toshiba's webite?
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: somewhere on their site you'll say what your machine model is and that you're using windows 10
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: do this later after you've installed it
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: nice, i can do that, still can't believe she didn't make backup disks
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I mean, you could do it now, but then you have to put them somewhere
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: and I'd recommend Googling "Windows 10 privacy settings" and making some of those tweaks. unless you really love Cortana.
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horg Tech: How about Linux?
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: never used her
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horg Tech: It is a free and ope source operating system.
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horg Tech: *open*
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: naa, she barely uses windows
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you know I hear good things about cortana
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: i may have to try it
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Horg: yeah but he wants to recover his wife's machine, not wipe it
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: could always pull the HDD out and use it on another machine if the goal is to recover data
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: she got the blue screen of death, figured we would just have to do a complet reinstall
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: only if it happens every time you reboot
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: it does
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also it's possible that you have recovery data
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: a lot of things can cause a BSOD, doesn't necessarily mean the HDD is toast
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: even without a recovery boot disk, windows has an option for saving the last known working system configuration, and I think that's on by default
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but I could be wrong
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: we start a reboot and it goes imediatly to a bsod
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: how immediately?
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Heh. Windows 98 liked to do that.
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: does it run POST?
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: checking
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: or beep or anything?
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if it didn't post it wouldn't bsod. it'd ..uhh...BLACK screen of death
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: with beeps
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: My windows 7 never crashed, very good.
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: read this page http://www.online-tech-tips.com/computer-tips/restart-safe-mode/
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: can you get to the F8 screen?
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: nope, doesn't beep, but it booted up this time, but it got hot last night
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: laptop?
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: tmi
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh you mean the laptop
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: and it doesn't have full functionality, can't access the wireless conetcton or the pannel on the left
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if it's a laptop and is getting hot it might have a dust trap that's full or the fans might be clogged/broken.
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or it might be full of ants
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: or some other component might have gone bad. or ants. probably ants.
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: just started getting hot last night
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well congratulations to your successful marriage
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'd boot into safe mode and back up the data or pull the hard drive and back it up that way.
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: right, still the laptop
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: but windows is definalty corupted
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: laptop hardware issues can be a pain to troubleshoot
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for real
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: how do you do that, and no important data is on the computer, already backed up
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: http://www.dummies.com/computers/operating-systems/windows-7/how-to-restart-a-windows-7-computer-with-the-last-known-good-configuration/
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well if there's no important data, just go for a reinstall since you're probably going to do it anyway
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: true
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: ok, so go buy windows 10
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: speaking of Windows 10: I haven't gotten over the fact that Microsoft has an option to create your own install DVD BUT IT CREATES AN ISO TOO BIG FOR A STANDARD DVD-R
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ?
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: internet says it's under 4GB
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can download it from their website
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh hey. you can download it from their website.
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Kinjin, maybe download and burn a copy if you still have a working serial number
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or put it on a 8GB usb key
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: she says no serial number
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you just got it to boot, right?
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can look it up 
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/product_cd_key_viewer.html
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: is it true that advertising is part of windows 10 now, or is that just some one-off optional thing?
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I hadn't dug into the story yet, just something I'd heard, thought someone here might know.
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: do you have to be online to install it?
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: if you get an online installer.  there are offline installers.
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: ok, i've got the file, burned it on a cd, now her computer isn't seeing a disk drive, any idea?
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: actually a dvd
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: if i won't see a disk drive do you think it would see a usb drive?
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i'm assuming you told the bios to try and boot from dvd?
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: no was just tring to get a program to read the window serial number on the computer, but it dousn't see the disk drive anymore
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: windows isn't working right, been getting a bsod and my wife didn't make backups of windows when she bought the computer
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: It isn't showing the disc drive in "my computer", or it isn't recognizing the dvd in the drive?
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: windows isn't working right, been getting a bsod and my wife didn't make backups of windows when she bought the computer
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: got a problem with buttons on my phone
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: My phone is fine.  But in all seriousness, do you mean the physical buttons?  Something else?
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: they say that y has to be greater than zero
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: for heal quaf angel
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: probably means you tried to put it off the screen
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horg Tech: TODO: start writing my TinTin pack.
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: my buttons wont work
T3/r7/2017-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: make sure it's plugged in?
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: What is better for PC gaming? Headphones or 2.1 speakers
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: a gong
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle chuckles at NotGod Pleiades's joke.
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Doesnt Headphones give you more a sense of surround sound?
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: depends on which kinds, I guess
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I'm not a gamer.. I just listen to music
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Cook thanks.
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: So headphone quality/price plays a big role.
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I'd wager the same especially if the headphones has a good driver being powered
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle nods at Karang.
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Then I want to get me a good pair. because these 2.1 desktop speakers are bothering me
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: any particular pair of head phones you're looking at
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Some good brand like Sony
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I did not do any headphone research as yet
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: The fun part now... how much do you want to spend
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: 20$ max
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Well that's a touch and go price
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: That is when I convert my currency (rands) to yours $
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nod, most are priced at that range, the cheapies are 10$
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Forgive my ignorance, but what country is rands from?
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: south africa
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: nifty
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: You're killing my Cackle now I want a new pair
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Then I think you must buy SkullCandy headphones, like 30ish$
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Those kind hav a good rep here.
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Its so odd, sometimes when you go linkdead the quest timer didnt count down when you come back online..
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Sometimes it does, and sometimes it dont.
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frago Tech: Ok, anyone know how to get out of a "Out of vnum range - don't use" room. I haven't logged in a bit. Seems Boot moved?
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frago Tech: Portal, Recall, and just trying to move. doesn't work
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I dont understand your question
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing is Absolute Tech: Sounds like you will need an IMM
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frago Tech: I seem to be in an area that has been removed from the game. I am thinking I need an IMM to.
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: frago nod boot changed around a bit... check on clan first because there are a lot of imm alts in boot now
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frago Tech: How would I talk to Boot Clan? 
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Un Rhuli Tech: Bootcamp is now u,s from recall.
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frago Tech: Ok, but I am stuck in old boot. 
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frago Tech: Thanks! Whoever helped!
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Obviously
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: manor problem with button sets
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: random words strung together
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: I use heal then quaff fangel
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: or did you mean minor?
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: says y cant be a.negative number
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: I know what it is
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: my phone only has a 300 memory set
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: none of my action buttons are working. im on blowtorch. any ideas
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: anyone know if there is a veriabl ethat would be set which causes "{roomchars}" to appear before the description of a room?
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: before the description of the room?  it's usually after description and room objects.
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: it's around the description
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: unless there isn't one in current, then {roomchars} followed by {/roomchars} on another line
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Is your problem the tags showing, or where they are showings?
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: perhaps I am not referring correctly to what is considered the Description
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: the tag itself, hadn't seen it before
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: perhaps tt++ stuff I loaded last time I logged in may have set a mud setting, so was just curious
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: type tags roomchar off
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: thanks, that's the stuff
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I wouldn't mind seeing what is supposed to be in those tags, just not the {roomchars} thing itself
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ah, I see now, sorry, ya, probably was used by that tt++ script, thanks a bunch
T3/r7/2017-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: jotting down tags
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: I suck at regular expressions I just want it to match on battle prompt.  I have it working as a normal trigger, but I can't do it regular expression style
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: triggering on prompts is a path to sin
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: I'll have to agree =D
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: I got fed up and went to weinersnitzel
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: If you're still trying to get prompt-ish info, if you form the question in a style that indicates what you want to get out of it and why I might be able to help
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: infer a comma after the "why"
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: Just a simple heal trigger, I want to pull both current and max hp frompt prompt, If lower than said percentage, quaff a potion
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what client?
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: oh Yea! MushClient
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok. well there are a couple of ways you might do this...
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: I could always use some premade, I'm trying to learn to fish :)
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Yeah got to consider..
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think that using prompts is a bad idea, because you shouldn't have to redo this if you decide you want to change your prompt
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: You may get 3 prompts under that percentage before you quaff a potion and therefore quaff 3 potions...
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emeris is agreeing with that The Jerk Fiendish person again...
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I mean prompts are just a kind of visual frosting 
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: I figured I'd turn the trigger on and off using a variable to control that
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are a few other sources for that information that are more reliably consistent
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: What would a better suggestiong for me to go down the road one without using prompts?
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: one source is statmon, and the other is gmcp
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Personally I like GMCP because it's what I'm used to, but it does require making a plugin and can't be triggered in the classical sense
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you're trying to learn about classical triggers, statmon will be the way to go
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: So you need to "pluginify" before you can even test
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: only if you want to be able to trigger on GMCP. I have a webpage that talks about this if you want to read later
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: I made a trigger using plain ole text, but I wanted to upgrade to using regex to be all special
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you read 'help statmon' you'll see a way to get the info you want with a classic trigger without relying on the prompt
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: The link would be most appreciated
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ah sure. one sec. 
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Using-GMCP
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: thanks so much
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that'll help with gmcp in the aardwolf mushclient package
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: assuming you're using that and not just mushclient from mushclient.com
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: I don't like to totally reinvent the wheel
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you read that page you'll see how to get stat information out of gmcp when it arrives, but it does take a bit of real programming in Lua
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which I demonstrate on the page to a limited degree, but the page assumes some Lua knowledge 
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you want to start with a basic trigger, you can also go the statmon route. typing statmon will activate the additional output, which will then give prompt-like information but in a more reliable format
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: Now which route to go, one is obviously more fun implementing.
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think a basic trigger pattern for statmon is something like...
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ^\{stats\}(\d+)/(\d+),(\d+)/(\d+),(\d+)/(\d+),(\d+)/(\d+),(\d+)/(\d+),(\d+)/(\d+),(\d+),(\d+),(\d+),(\d+),(\d+),You are ([^,]+)\.,(\d+),(\d+)/(\d+),(\d+)/(\d+),(\d+)/(\d+),(\d+),(\d+),(\d+),([-]?\d+),(\d+),(\d+),(\d+)
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost rests in a corner and mutters 'spam' quietly to himself.
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: at least it was when I wrote a gauges script for zmud back in 2008
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish comforts Vost.
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: Damn zmud
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I used to use it a very long time ago
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the trigger pattern should be the same
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I recall before Fiendish worked on MUSHclient and what we have today for a client. cMUD and zMUD were the defacto clients for here. That changed over the next three to four years due to Zugg not supporting cMUD.
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: It was the first legit application I bought for aardwolf infact, usenet and bbs' ftw
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ahh zmud, I remember it well
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I should hope so. You were the first person to make really interesting scripts for aardwolf.
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ahh zmud, I remember it well
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: archive.org still has them if anyone wants to unpick them for historical value https://web.archive.org/web/20150815163621/www.jacko.demon.co.uk
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yessss
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Oh damn, that brings back memories
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hmm, though the core script is missing, which is a shame
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well then. Got force-upgraded to Windows 10 Creator, and it totally jacked up my audio. HP BeatsAudio laptop, now sounds tinny and crappy rather than the awesome audio it had before. I hope HP has updated drivers...
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Having the same problem with the same laptop
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Kinda pisses me off.
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: you probably want to update your HP audio drivers anyway as there was a scandal about them having bundled a keylogger with them
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Tech Bloke Danj.
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: http://www.zdnet.com/article/keylogger-found-on-several-hp-laptops/
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne thanks Tech Bloke Danj heartily.
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: im having a moment... whats the command to see the parsable affects with spell numbers, tags, etc?
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Do you mean slist?
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: that's it!!! thanls
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: that's it!!! thanks
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Has anyone had any luck with eq management plugins other than Bast's eqDB?  Or is the general practice to use aliases and triggers to handle all the equipment changing during morts?  Trying to set up an easier way to manage equipping things than just making dozens of aliases for all the level ranges I have.
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is there a Wine for Android?
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but not for any super good reason
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because you can technically get it to work
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's just not easy to install
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: is there an easy way to fix broken paths in mapper?   I hadn't played for a while, and paths to places no longer work, and I'd like to fix them
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: gotta find out why it broke and fix the bad connection
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: use maper where to find the path it is trying, then figure out where it is going wrong...
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: to add an area that I can runto, just do mapper cexit runto <area> 
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: or should it have mapped that on it's own?   The path I mean
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: oh no
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: have mapper do it
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: because I can't find a path to fantasy
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: but I can do runto fantasy from recall
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: oh for that you can do speedwalk fantasy
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So stand at recall, then runto fantasy
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: correct
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: lol cexit runto is pretty funny
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: probably a cexit in the path you have to add to mapper
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: it would work lol
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: but you can do mapper where <roomid> (so find it from the start room) to find out what is stopping you mapper-wise.
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: just would think everything is one room away!
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: cool, i did to a random room there, but will try thanks
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: sorry, been fixing some, but a lot of clan paths changed etc, mapper where will help for sure
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: mapper where just tells you what the path it is trying to take. Its on you to go back and figure out where its going wrong, remove the exits that break it.
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: room is 15205 
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: mapper where 15205 is not found
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Like I said you have to also use mudside speedwalk command.
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: There is a custom exit in the runto you have to make sure you have added to the mapper
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at [Outlaw] Mendaloth.
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: thanks got it
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: if I wanted to have the alt plus arrows for direction keys, how would I do that in MushClient?
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Evil Anaristos Tech: check Macros
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Evil Anaristos Tech: and also Keypad
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cobus Tech: all how do I enter Dortmund ungerground if enter rungs does work ? 
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Prolly not the best channel to ask this kind of question
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cobus Tech: all  how do I enter Dortmund rungs below latrine if enter rungs does work
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Try question channel
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taj Tech: try on the question channel
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: enter latrine...
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also:
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cobus Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aardwiki (help wiki) has an "areas" section with pages on each area. Maps made by many clans and players can be found for nearly all areas on the area pages :-)
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're misreading the "rungs" part...that's how to get FROM "The Cave" to get back TO the latrine
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cobus Tech: yes, I keep on getting back in the latrine and can't remenber how I got through the last time
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cobus Tech: thanks again. I remember npw
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: does anyone know of a plugin that allows you to automatically equip gear based on it's gear score?
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Bast has an eq plugin that lets you make sets, but it doesn't analyze the eq. You have to tell it what pieces to use (once).
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: is it possible for a malicious program to break out of a virtual machine and attack the host computer?
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Through network, I'm assuming yes
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: anybody ever look into the dark internet and find anything creepy or strange?
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: Been there, done that. It's a waste of time to expect something to be interesting there
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: go look for yourself, but be carefull what you look at
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: hire an assasin just for fun
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: I figured it was overrated
T3/r7/2017-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impuritan Tech: probably not much good there anyway
T3/r7/2017-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Impuritan: "is it possible for a malicious program to break out of a virtual machine" - Yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine_escape
T3/r7/2017-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it's impossible to say nothing is possible.. ..wait what?
T3/r7/2017-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: how do i directly change a variable from mushclient command line?
T3/r7/2017-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Dtane: still there?
T3/r7/2017-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: note
T3/r7/2017-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hey in mushclient how do I say to do a command x number of times
T3/r7/2017-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: wait nevermind
T3/r7/2017-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I did mine like this: alias ^[r,R](\d+) (.*)$ : for i = 1, %1 do  Execute "%2"  end -- for loop
T3/r7/2017-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: You can use regular expressions in Alias'
T3/r7/2017-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: meant a question mark
T3/r7/2017-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: sure
T3/r7/2017-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: just make sure regular expression is checked (which the client will do automatically if you click the convert to regular expression)
T3/r7/2017-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: anything else you can give idea on something nifty using alias'
T3/r7/2017-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: excuse me
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: anybody have an idea for a regegestry cleaner/tune up program for windows 10?
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: besides autoruns?
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: autoruns?
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: its a program that tells you what is setup to run on your computer on startup, also things like browser help objects and the like
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: used to be produced by an independent company but microsoft bought them
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: don't think i have one
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: google it
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: its a free tool
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: very useful to have at the very least it tells you what you have that runs on startup etc.
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: be careful using it though because it does have the ability to modify registry and you can seriously screw stuff up with it
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I once managed to delete one of the key components of windows using it.
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: that was a pita to fix
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: where do i go to download latest version of mushclient? Think my mushclient didn't prompt me again to update when i closed it the last time
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: start with help mushclient
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: hmm i tried the links on the help file but i can't seem to find the r1914.exe download i am currently on r1913
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: so... stemming off of the gossip conversation... is there any way to change the port on the aard blowtorch client? i cant get thru company firewall with the default settings
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: wow 10 people still using zmud
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oooo 256 colours
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: now I'm mudding with POWER
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: color is one of the things I couldn't mud without anymore.  right up there is triggers/aliases, and the map.
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: i need some help with my client
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: hit his head
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ahh... I best leave that to the young'uns then, my client knowledge is all way out of date, sorry
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: its ok
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: how do I change the default directery for the play_sounds plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: how do I change the default directery for the play_sounds plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: in mushclient can you have a trigger change a variable?
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: You can use SetVariable and Getvariable 
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: sure
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: how can i tell the play_sounds plugin to look for sounds in the msp folder
T3/r7/2017-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Anyone know what the commands in bast plugins to toggle your noexp for cp leveling?
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saemson Tech: where do i find the help file pulg?
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: quick mushclient questions answered
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: does the latest version 1913? include the no blackout code for miniwindows that's getting tested?
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do you need another link to it?
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: btw that fix is still working perfectly for me
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's awesome
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the next update I make will include that then along with hopefully something for fixing the main layout issue reported on tech board
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sheriff Shindo nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in the meantime, if you happen to see anyone else complain about black miniwindows you can send them to download https://github.com/nickgammon/mushclient/releases/download/latest_commit/MUSHclient.exe
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i'll bookmark that right now
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: which version of mush is that?
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's a pre-release experimental build of a potential fix for a rare problem
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i had these blackout problems with bast's plugins a few years ago, though they seem to have resolved themselves at some point...
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if it isn't happening to you right now, I wouldn't bother downloading it because you'll have no reference for testing it
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think it shouldn't be harmful, though, so you could if you wanted
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it doesn't add any features or fix any other bugs 
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just curious, didn't see anything like that in any of the patch notes
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: makes sense since this is pre-release
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: a little while ago I helped Nick set up automatic test builds of every commit he pushes to github
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: similar to what I use to package the Aardwolf MUSHclient installer now
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish hears the faint sounds of a cricket chirping.
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa lets off a real rip-roarer ... a greenish cloud envelops KoopaTroopa!
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: vim is better than emacs.
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: that should prime things.
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: can't see how it would. that's uncontroversially true
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: though I use vim less and less now because of vscode
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: yeah, someone pointed me in the direction of vscode.  I like what i've seen so far.
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: once they hit the roadmap target for accessing multiple git repos simultaneously it'll be nearly perfect
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the new microsoft is making some pretty exciting software 
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: pricepoint's tough to beat, to explore it, too
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: what is vs code?
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: visual studio code
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: eww
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I have never had good experience with visual studio
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Fiend, how do you have it running? I thought you were using a linux machine
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: this is visual studio code.  different beast.
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: first of all, visual studio code is an entirely different product just with a confusingly similar name
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ah
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: second of all, visual studio is hands down the best IDE for C++ that has ever been made by a giant mile
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I have never had to code anything in C++ ;)
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and third, I don't think I've ever heard anyone not have anything but a good experience with visual studio compared to whatever else happens to be available with similar coverage
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so is VScode more like sublime?
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes or atom
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but better than atom, though also based on electron
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am shocked to hear that statement on VS feindish. I have only heard a few people actually liking VS and they were all .net programmers
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nah. MSVC is phenomenal
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: VS is probably the best development suite out there
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: By far
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hmm, they offered it for free from both of my schools, but its huge and never could get it set up correctly to do anything more than being an expensive Sublime text
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: I've spent years on each, but just from a useability POV, out of XCode, Visual Studio, CodeBlocks (just months), Eclipse, KDevelop, I would say Visual Studio is a very fine editor. It has tons of bloat, slow indexing, poor versioning without their versioning server, but good code completion and good code traversal. It gets the job done, without being too painful. 
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I have never understood standing behind a specific IDE. I just use what works for whatever project I am on.
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I mean heck, had to use Jgrasp for a Java project once, painful but it got the job done
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: I completely agree. If it's a windows project, use VS. If it's an ios or osx project use XCode. If it's android, use Android Studio. If it's server side code, use vim and compile on the terminal.
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Don't touch emacs
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: agreed
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: except xcode is garbage
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and every mac dev struggles with that
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I used it once and got stuck in it until i googled the exit command
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: LOL so is ios, but if you have to go through manure, use a shovel
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: android studio is also garbage, it just happens to be the best garbage for android
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Never had the 'pleasure' of working with xcode..
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: no delphi programmers, huh?
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I had to use AS recently and yes it is complete crap
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: I hate hate hate the Android Studio WYSIWYG editor. I always test on an actual device to see layout changes.
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the wysiwyg editor never actually works for me
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because there are things it just can't display
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Delphi is great for.... um... Great if that's what floats your boat. I guess. I'm not gay, so I just don't understand it.
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: never looked at Delphi
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: I've heard great things about LUA, but outside of programming layout for WOW and MudLet, I've never had to use it. Must be very niche.
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Lua isn't an acryonym
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: what is it?
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: ah, the CAPS
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: right
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also not sure what being gay would have to do with delphi
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Sorry, I was just trying to start a flame war for one of the only products I haven't used.
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: LUA is interesting
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: it's just a generic homophobic statement
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am enjoying it when it pops up, but the while 'everything is a table' is kinda hard to reckon with
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: not sure where that while came from... 
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: ask him...
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I should not interact with people while experiencing a hangover..
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: How do I get keys off my keyring?
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Lua still isn't an acronym
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: help keyring
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Considering the locale and/or century, bashing gay could be considered cherophobia. (One of my favorite words, when dealing with caffienated relatives.)
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the everything is a table thing is a bit quirky. having only an implicit difference between something that feels like an array/list and something that feels like a dict/map
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: according to what you happen to put into it
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but as long as you remember what you put in, then it's not really any different than having both just with the same name
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Have you tried PHP? Loosely typed languages drives my brother insane.
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I'm still struggling with javascript's "type is only a suggestion" concept.
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah but javascript is possibly the world's most poorly designed language
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: as long as you remember to use triple equals for comparisons you're ok
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but the need for triple equals is just awful
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: hoisting is different too.  still unclear what it really buys you, other than being an interesting source of potential problems.
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: triple equals feels like double-stamped it, no erasies.
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's the worst mess of a language. but javascript's fundamental brokenness is what keeps a million web developers paid
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so whatev
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: for those of you who went to school with chalkboards....
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: How do you go about capturing quest info?  I want to make a miniwindow for it
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'd go look up how bast did it in his quest capture miniwindow
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I have no idea how you write the code, but to retrieve the info from the game is quite easy: quest info output can be parsed. the first line is 'You are on a quest to slay <quest target name>!'. the second line is '<quest target name> an be found in the vicinity of <room name> which' and the third line is 'is in the general area of <area name>.'
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: that was 'can' insead of 'an', but you get the idea
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: I guess I was looking to dump those into a table, then parse indivdually, then I realized If I'm having issues with something so simple maybe I shouldnt =D
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I would use gmcp instead of parsing the output
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: look for comm.quest messages coming from the gmcp handler
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: Oh hmm, didnt even think going that direction
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Using-GMCP
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: Thanks for the push in right direction
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: for gmcp, you have the docs here: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP#aard_comm_events
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah that's a good reference for what messages come in during a quest
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: anybody on?
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: nop
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: my laptop (dell Inspiron) is doing this thing where, it suddenly goes completely spastic and when I move the cursor it flies all random over the place and windown close and stuff opens
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: then it simmers down ......happens again...
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Do you have an external mouse?
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: try disabling the trackpad and using an external mouse
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: nope...
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Emm I think you're trying to beat down on response time
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: debris in the trackpad bed is the most common cause of that sort of behavior
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Nothing a wet vac cant fix
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: its too big to fit in the wet vac
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: haha bag it up voila wetvac power
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: last time I did do that though it was like a 486dx
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: its fine now but it's done that twice
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: there can be other causes, but debris is the most common one and its easy to diagnose if you have an external mouse
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Is there anything else that you are doing when it freaks out?
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: She also freaks out
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: if I was tripping I'd be laughig but no
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: How do you know its a shee? It does have both male and female ports ya know
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: I'm anatomically correct ...single mom
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: haha I've been trying something smart ass to say b ut I just cant
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: you can :D I'm a midwestern momma but I spent 4 years in cali so sarcasm is funny
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: nice What part? {I'm california}
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: sonoma mendo and a little bit of humboldt and SF
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: 4 yrs in that area eh?  Then straight to midwest.  Who ya running from?
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: I was in sonoma for 1.4, and mendo for about that long on different grounds..
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: I stuck a fork in a corrupt court in mendo
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: not runnung :P
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: it aint no luck :P I learned to duck lol
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: I'm from the midwest...moved out there...did that...came home
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: miss it like crazy...midwest is socially constipated
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Yea see, I like the warmth.  I've never seen snow in person
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: snow is fun :) i do miss the ocean
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: southern Cali is far better for beachness
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: geography crap is not Tech - you're ruining tech - required to erase this crap from the offline files
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: I just remembereed...my little nephew beat up my keyboard with a stuffed cat yesterday...not too bad bt maybe thats whats wrong
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: What country has the most tech workers?
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Better?
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: malaysia
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I would put money on india maybe china
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: why timeshifting not re-cast in winklewinkle spellup plugin? in list i saw it
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it used to have a cooldown and the plugin hasn't been updated since that was changed
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: oh, thank you. didn`t see cooldown
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it doesn't have one any more
T3/r7/2017-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zopa Tech: how does one set up a macro?
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: anyone have any idea why my laptop is spazzing out...when I move the mouse it goes nuts, flies all over, windows flashing open all over...
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: flies?
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: oh I read totally different
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: sounds like a bug.. check your antivirus software...
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Thats more than a bug
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you using touchpad or mouse?
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: touchpad
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: tried using a mouse?
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: I dont have one
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: might want to borrow one to test, might be your touchpad having hardward issues
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: try booting into safe mode
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: If it is hardware related, you might want to clean your touch pad. Touch related things are affected easily by contaminants.
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: oil?
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Personally I'd boot in safe mode see how mouse happens
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: happens works who needs to use the right words
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: its random but it's happened 3 times since last night...only two things I know of that happened maybe are, my little nephew beat my keyboard with a stuffed cat....or one of my sisters did something to it...the plug is acting up and I can use it plugged in ONLY but the battery light on the screen says its dead
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: and the battery light on the body of the comp doesnt light up at all
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it sounds like your laptop is a little worn :p
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: oh the nephew eh? that changes the responses a bit
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: it is but I need to use it lol
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I'velisten
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: or oil from eating chips on the mousepad :P
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: chips... so i guess those chips had salt on em too
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: can I clean it with alcohol?
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you could try, but it'd probably be something below the surface
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but cleaning it wouldn't hurt :P
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: go buy an $8 mouse and test it or learn how to use mousekeys and stop asking the same question that has been asked and answered?
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: compressed air then?
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Bog was trying to get a different crew of people to answer question
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: karang?
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: COMPRESSED AIR??????? Nooooooooooo! (for those who remember the conversation on compressed vs canned air)
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: I like to hear from different people because I get different answers and learn alot that way
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: on some issues that makes sense, but this one is a rather boring one.
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: nothing wrong with that
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it might be a virus!
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: or a Worm!
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i wrote this amusing script that would move your mouse randomly
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: then i realised the fallacy of my ways because i couldn't move the mouse to close the program again
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: took me 5 mins to close it
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: hahahaha
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: could be a worm...used comp....any suggestions for non-corrupt firewalls?
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: if it's a worm it either followed me from fb phone to comp via photo transfer...or its one of you
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: I could care less really but anyway
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: been hacked here before :P
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: instead hacked One should say I was on the blue team and lost
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: or iggy people before I talk more
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: but I dont lose...since I'd be free to fly anywhere and you never know what I can do
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: thank you Redryn
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: anyone have any fun triggers or alias'?  I want some ideas but don't want/need the code
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: There's the typical chan color spamming scripts
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khwarizmi Tech: I do four-letter codes for commonly used spells
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: I use 3
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khwarizmi Tech: Like xtng for cast extinguish
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: See I go back and forth of locating the alias all on my left hand or not
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: What 3 do you use Bog?
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Iv read in my Fallout new vegas manual this after noon, and it says you get armour piercing rounds with a few other cool bullets. It also are calculeted toweards your weight now, quite nifty
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: sorry mis
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: So I attempted to bitlock my hard drive via control panel option, it failed to complete the process due to some TDI feature or something. On sunda I took my hardrive to pal to copy over some music and vids, it didnt wanna copy anything! So we had to format my hard drive and just copy the folders over, When i get to home i was scepticul if i install win 7 again it would preserve that files, heh it did, 477gigs worth. Even with a failed bitlock attempt it made my hardrive so messed up it didnt wanna receive files, lessend learned
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: next time use truecrypt
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: not very obvious what lesson though
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: yeah Trachx will do. It was a very time consuming error, when i tried to bitlock via control pannel it didnt even start to encrypt, just generated keys or something... This is so stupid even on failed encrpyt it messed yp my drive. When i inserted my drive into his PC, and started to copy the 400+gigs it just stalled at 1 %
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: IIRC all those encrypting software always warns you and suggests backup before encryption
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: It didnt though on win 7
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I dont even know why i wanted to encrypt it
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: That is something i wont try again
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I guess being a geek i wanted to try every windows setting out to gain knowledge
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: All my various accounts with passwords are stored on my PC via txt file, oh yeah thats also a reason
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some Windows tell you to make a restore disk, then asks to insert a floppy, even on systems without a floppy drive
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: That is reduntant, Ive not seen a floppy drive in ages
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: System restore is pretty much all i do, hence its very powerfull
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: was yours a stand-alone Win7 or an upgrade to Win7
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: better use regularly some backup software - like acronis trueimage
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are just 2 kind of people: those who do backups and those who will do  :P
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Xyliz - Its a fresh install from win & disc, no previous OS.
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Every 30 days to system store is OK Trachx :)
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Just make sure you make that option avaliable, that it doesnt over write sys restore points
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Windows restore points are not reliable
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: At the end of the day, I wanna create another partition, and have Win 7 Ulti on primary and windows xp on secondary
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: How so Trachx? I never even needed to restore
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: consider using virtual machine - like VM ware
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I need a secondary partition for backuping files
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I could use a VM, but meh
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: previously, Windows was (is) so buggy that Windows upgrades were (are) a fraud upon the consumer victims -- seems only standalone is safe when installed working by the oem
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually Windows system restore is good enough , but I've seen it failed to restore system 2-3 times (different PCs) - and then reinstallation was required
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for backups you need separate HDD, not just additional partition
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: virtual machine is also good as sandbox, in case it gets corrupted / damaged you can restore it easily (as long as you do backups)
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nod nod, Best scenario is to buy and use a second stand alone hardive via usb
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle is agreeing with that Trachx person again...
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Cackle found an untested or buggy feature in Win7
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Yes that failed bitlock test
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I never ever tried an VM, Only reason I want to use it is to 'install and play' 16bit games
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Luckily my mother board and cpu have VM support, so when im actually inside the VM and playing games it wont tax my main OSm and will be like im using 1--% resources from gpu ram cpu
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: I have one puter, to do all my coding. It's a MAC, and I have a Fusion VM for Windows and Linux.
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: 100%
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle gives Larcenist a nod, saying, "OK".
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Some 32bit software/games will be installable on a 64bit OS, but once you enter that .exe it dont work. doesnt even help if you toggle the exe shortcuts compatibailty mode
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Some 32/16 bit games and software will notice you uppon install its not supported, thats why i need a VM or dual boot OS thats 32 bit
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: IIRC dosemu works with 16-bit apps
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: What is that>? I take it its some sofware
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: like dosbox
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I need mainly gpu support in these 16/32 bit System emulators, not sure if dosemu haves this
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for 16 bit I doubt any app does really need GPU
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for 32 bit - I guess you could consider using XP mode or other VM
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: XP mode is just VM (Windows Virtual PC) that runs XP
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: What 16-bit apps do you run?
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Trachx - I need GPU support in plenty old games for graphical features, like anti - analliasing etc. I over write the games shortcut with MSI afterburner and enforce that feature to reduce jagged lines for ecample. without this support i cant to this to make the old games looks more shiny
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Which games though?
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Commandos 1
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: There is much more
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Diablo 1
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Even Diablo 2 is messd up on win 7
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Age of empires 1 and 2, i can go on and on
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: diablo 1 is like 17 years old now..
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: I'm a ridiculously big fan of SSO, ZZT, Sopwith, Empire, the original Quell, f19...
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: diablo 1 was 32-bit, I thought.
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: erm, diablo 2 is 17 years old.. 
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Yup im a retro gamer at heart. I play games thats released from 1988 to 2019, only a hand full games i will play after that year
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: diablo 1 is more than 20
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: even Castles of the Wind was a windows game
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I got a good gaming system btw
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: 2019 is your cutoff year?
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: 2009*
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: maybe he will die in 2019
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: That puts FO4 on your radar.
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: People i love retro PC games like from 2000 and up till 209 :D the graphics is not that distracting and the titles is very fun
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: As long as Starcraft and Lords of the Realm II is in there.
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: But im a graphic freak also, i realy love to tweak latest games to get most out of it
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I kinda wish they'd re-make games like master of magic, colonization and ufo
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: I played about a thousand hours on Terraria alone. It's like a retro game.
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Here is a list of games i play thats kinda new and looks good and haves good gameplay... Assassins Creed  - Revelations,Assassins Creed IV Black Flag,Batman.Arkham.City.,Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3,Dead Space 3,Dying Light,Dishonored,Dragonball Xenoverse,Far Cry 3,Injustice Gods Among Us (Ultimate Edition),Mortal Kombat Komplete Edition,Need For Speed Rivals,Outlast,Saints Row The Third,[CorePack] Splinter Cell Blacklist,[CorePack] Splinter Cell Conviction,The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim,The Walking Dead 400 Days,Unreal tournament 3,WWE.2K16,X Men Origins - Wolverine
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Thats just the tip of the iceberg
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: But i mostly play oldr games....
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: You forgot to add/play Fallout. But Skyrim saved your soul.
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: Woot, nice! Bethesda rocks.
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: LArcenist i have and play Fallout, look at these i own... Fallout 3 - Game of the Year Edition,Fallout 3 - Broken Steel & Point Lookout (Expansions),Fallout 3 - The Pitt & Operation Anchorage (Expansions),Fallout - New Vegas,Fallout - New Vegas - Honest Hearts (Expansion),Fallout - New Vegas - Lonesome Road (Expansion)
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Fallout is my fav game atm :P
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Well there you go! :)
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle grins at Larcenist.
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Deathclaws FTW.
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I will have to look into that then
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Torchlight is pretty cool for a hindi source dungeon crawler i must confess
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: The crap-your-pants beast from Fallout. I got legit scared fighting those.
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: torchlight II was fun
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle enthusiastically high-fives Larcenist!
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I played Fallout3 and finished it last on normal mode, it was not hat difficult, but just a few vuln resist and high hp mobs was challenging, guess il try a bit more difficult seting this time round
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Ahhh you mean deathclaws as the fallout 3 monster, omg thats an insane difficult mob, due to the fact its very fast and inflicts allota damage to you, and its quite beefy Hp wise
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: To be fair, the only Fallout I've played was FO4. Deathclaws are not that difficult with a rifle and a lot of room, but if they get even kind of close it will not matter what armor you have.
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: They will mortal combat your spine off.
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nod nod i agree, The thing i dislike in fallout 3 is you cant shoot enemies from far away, the bullets just dissapear and doesnt connect with enemies, even with the snipers
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I just strave allot and activated slow motion with increased slow mo time perk and head shot them up 80% accuracy
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: In FO4, Lasers have that difusing problem, but ballistics always hit, so a beefy rifle will let you pot shot the whole crew from a distance. When you play like that it's just a sniper game. But get a baseball bat and you can decap, jumping mob to mob. With a string of luckies you can clear a room in one go. Without luckies, you will find yourself in a room of people that do not care for you.
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: ok now the dang thing dies every time i walk away for a minute
T3/r7/2017-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: so it was the mush client on my laptop...i had to remove it
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: in mushclient how do i change my variables? e.g. i got an atkspell variable and i don't want to go to the variable screen to change it. What should i type in the command line to change it?
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: SetVariable
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: SetVariable ("Chactername", "karang")
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: con
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: What is this Mush notification?
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: !!!! Input Overflow in buffer shift!!!!
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's a great question
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when did it happen?
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: I will show you via note
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: fascinating. give me a moment
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: What if im Stronger goes, "OK".
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't think it's a mushclient message
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe post on bugs to see if it's from the server?
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: unfortunately it's hard to know after the fact from your end whether a message came from the game or from the client
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient has a debug mode that will show all the incoming packets, but it has to have already been turned on before the message arrives :\
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: I only have SnD plugin and autoreply plugin, Its a fresh Mush download from yesterday at aards website, I will do as you say
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't have snd. if you give me a moment I can try to check that too
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't see anything that would give that message in SnD. where does your autoreply plugin come from?
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: From Abelincs finger
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: checking
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not there either
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: post it on bugs. worst case someone else will have an idea
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps in the plugin etcetera directory: grep "buffer shift" *.*  
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: mayhaps find out whether the message is originated from the: plugin or mushclient or OperatingSystem
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: state which Operating System you are using  (may not be a mushclient message)
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: win 7 ultimate 64bit
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: you have too many bits
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: lower them to 43
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish rolls his eyes.
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: not seriously, or maybe seriously: recompile mushclient as a 64bit program 
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: Shrug i just put mush folder in C drive\games
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz suspects that Microsoft dislikes supporting backwards compatibility and prefers to force users upgrade everything
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tearlach is agreeing with that Xyliz person again...
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: uhh
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Microsoft is actually the biggest supporter of backwards compatibility
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: they preserve APIs from extinct versions of windows just so that applications continue to work
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you definitely can't say the same thing about mac os or linux
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: Im strugling to view .nfo text files correctly with windows notepad. Wasnt there another text viewer in windows?
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: wordpad
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wordpad?
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: Ahh yes, ty all
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: Currently im ask to place this game in this folder C:\Program Files (x86)\Dying Light    If i install it rather in Cdrive\games  will the game still run at 64 bit?
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: I have two Program Files folders, always wondered why
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: i believe windows makes the determination as to where to install automatically
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: What if im Stronger goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: x86 is for your 32bit...
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: SO im actually thinking will games run as fast in the Cdrive\games folder I created to store all my games, as compared to program files folder
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it should run the same
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: Thanks! phew
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: Il try to be still awake till 24.00   it wil be a mission lol, i cant even type now, this also feels wierd
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: help, " I can't find the file C:\Users\Renita\Desktop\MUSHclient\sounds\fountain.mp3 -"
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is fountain.mp3 in your mushclient sounds folder?
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: the sounds arin c:Users\Renita\MUSclient\Sounds\msp
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: why not move the sounds to the folder it's looking in
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if something is looking in MUSHclient\sounds but they're in mushclient\sounds\msp then I think you either have to move them to mushclient\sounds instead of mushclient\sounds\msp or edit the script to look in mushclient\sounds\msp
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you have two scripts that look in different places, the quick solution would be to duplicate the sound files
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: instead of moving them
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: I copied the sounds from the msp folder to the sounds folder.  That seems to work, thanks
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's good to hear
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: I think I messed up a mapper cexit, is there a way to clear mapper cexits from a room?
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: right click the room in the map window
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: "mapper help exits"
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: thanks for both answers!  I love help files.
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: oh cool
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: didn't know about the right click:)
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: no prob! clicking around on the map moves you and right clicking has a bunch of other interesting stuff.
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mapper delete cexits also removes them from the current room
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've tried to make the clicky changes also have non-click methods
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: that is wonderful. Thanks Fiendish.  text commands ftw!
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the mapper help is searchable btw
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mapper help search cexit
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: can you make the mapper window 3d ?
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: just trolling..
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes, but since the world is mostly 2D it wouldn't be a good use of time
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it would also be pretty hard to navigate if I didn't keep it still have a top-down view
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. maybe with 3d glasses and a gesture device
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: still trolling..
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: trying to use replace function for all. i was using notepad++, it did a few just ok but left some strings unchanged. then downloaded visual studio code, same problem. ugh
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: for all files opened*
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: there is exact same lines in 2 different files. one got changed, one wasnt. since both editors had the same issue, it must be something completely awkward..
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try view -> show symbol -> show all characters
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my best is that "exact same line" isn't exact same line
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: same with show all chars
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: both editors cannot have the same bug. it must be something crazy
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: with notepad, it acted strange also. sometimes it found it, sometimes not
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: and this is the first time ive seen it. never had such problem before
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm looking for a plugin to track pup times, bois. I had one installed a long time ago but I was troubleshooting something and I don't know what I did with it.
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: for MUSH
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: did you know it takes about 7 lines of code to write this?
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: as a trigger. not even a proper script
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: you misunderstand either my laziness or stupidity
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: gimme dem 7 lines
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9vhOULDsX8FZFdUaXMtdm5WdzQ
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: activate your copy of windows, hwuai
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: also that's more than seven lines because it has a scroll bar
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: theres just a line to show it 
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: gimme the rest of the lines stop hoarding them
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i thought sharptracker did pup times ... not sure, i have never actually installed it, i just fix it
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I did it, Hwuaij
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I call it...HwuaiTracker
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: did you really get it working all by yourself?
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: yeah, I got it all figured out
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I dunno I copied and pasted it into a trigger
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: you have to put select the right boxes also
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: oldTime a nil value!
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: and send to script
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: okay, I can't get it to work because I'm dumb. I think sharptracker is what I used before.
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i have a "fixed" version on my github (also linked on hadar.ninja)
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded goes ooOOooOOoo at Useful Hadar.
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: coding is not about being smart or dumb. its about brute force
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: if code!=working then tryagain() end
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: yes. thats the spirit
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: if code!=working then tryagain() else wonderwhyitworks() end
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: forgot the else it did not work when i tried it
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I like it Hadar. is there a toggle for getting rid of the bar it adds at the bottom, or for showing dodges?
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Useful Hadar shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: as i said i have never once used it
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: D:
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: im in the very very slow process of writting my own trackers and making them "modular" unlike sharp
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I uninstalled it and it kept the weird bar, nooo
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i think if you restart mush it gets rid of it, not sure
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: tried that already
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: well. Raded. there is this trigger. and os.time(). all else is just math. did you learn math in school? its 3rd grade math 
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i can write those and i am dumb also
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the thing I don't know how to do is use variables
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: because I'm angrily lazy
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: somevariable=something..
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: its quite amazing how much you can achieve with 3rd grade math in coding
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: when all I did was copy the stuff you noted into a trigger and set up everything exactly as the screenshot, it errored out saying the variable had a nil value
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: so I create all the variables manually with a value of 1 and it still broke
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: what variable?
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I dunno, I deleted everything. let me remake it :p
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: keep it together, man!
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: remove mobsPerPup maybe
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:4: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'pupCount' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Late to the discussio, but try tonumber(pupCount) and call me in the morning.
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: if it's nil then that won't work 
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: there was a thing missing. my bad
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Nasus won't let me test things
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: hey it works now, except for the mobs per pup part, but I'm assuming that's a separate trigger that I'm too lazy to make
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Only measure that matters is exp/min or pups/min :)  Number of mobs shouldn't matter anyways!
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: what about miles per gallon?
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. gold per pup also
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: killing 30xp mobs, getting the same pups but 2x gold can be very meaningful information. but im too lazy for it
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: okay, I thought I could do this part myself, but I'm too dumb: I want to Send, but with the variable in it, but I want the number not the variable name.
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: so like: Send ("gt lastPupTime")
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but with my wrongness fixed
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: try using %lastpuptime
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: Send("gt " .. lastPupTime)
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: hopefully lastPupTime is variable containing a string, if not, slap a tostring() around it.
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: its a number
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: .. puts two strings together
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: thank you HWuai, Morn, and secret assistant. I will test it when Nasus ceases his murder attempts.
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Morn slaps HellSpawn Nasus.
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: it's just his way of helping
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: its all about exp per second!
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: alright boys it works. now for the pretty colors.
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: pretty colors? just add your usual @C somewhere in Send
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: Last Q (0h 0m 19s) Total Qps: 46 / Breakdown: 12 base, 2 mccp, 2 lucky, 6 tier, 1 opk, X2 / Bonus: 3200 Gold
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: who needs colors?
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: how many hours that took?
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded slaps Raded's Backup Plan.
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: took me like maybe an hour max to write that plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: are you color blind?
T3/r7/2017-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no, just really bad taste
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne growls.
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Takes forever to get to the landing page of a website, but once in the website, I'm able to navigate quickly. *growl*
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: how weird
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: dns slow maybe?
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Works fine on my other laptop. I'm wondering if it's the Creator update from Windows 10. Read something that people would be forced to use Edge and couldn't install Chrome anymore, etc.
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it a commercial site or a hobby site? it could need to spin up apache instances, slow DNS, slow ssl negotiation, etc.
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's every site. Facebook, Google, Pastebin, no matter what site I try to access, it doesn't load. Gonna try Edge real fast, though.
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nah the forced edge thing is only for new Windows 10 S devices
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, that's good to know.
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno where it is in edge, but try going to internet options, connections, lan settings, UNcheck automatically detect
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, apparently closing out Chrome and reopening it anyway fixed whatever issue it was having.
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: how weird
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish stretches luxuriously. Kinda makes you want to, doesn't it?
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super-Swag Vinatia Tech: I am using Windows 10 and am trying to create a new local user. when I try to switch over to that user it tells me there is a log in error... googled it and tried everything i saw... any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: without more specifics of what you have tried I wouldn't know where to start
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: have you tried creating a second new one?
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super-Swag Vinatia Tech: no, would that change anything though?
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: maybe if it is a registry corruption
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super-Swag Vinatia Tech: k lemme try that, if not i will let you know what ive tried
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: okay
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: ok. this last days problem with replacing all "something" strings in all opened files in notepad++. its a weird bug and tried to search about it but had no luck. works if manually switching and activating tabs one by one. it just leaves some files untouched. so. just a heads up.
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: netbeans acted weird also. but yep. cant seem to find any clue when googling
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: abe, if you are online... gettin connection refused to your site
T3/r7/2017-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: any one decent with php? having some issues getting 2 different scripts talking to eachother both of them are constantly running and cant really stop them to update data
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: hi any one here that might be able to help me with some phone set up please? 
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Assuming you mean Blowtorch? I don't personally know enough about it to do any set up, sadly.
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: yes something like that Arcidayne. i found a me u button with modify options and if i am correct it can be used for aliases or something 
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I never got that far with Blowtorch. Only used it when my computer was down. Otherwise, I use teamviewer and keep MUSH running on my laptop at home.
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: but all good thanks :) just dont want to bugger arround there without help to set up. 
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: just came back from smoking. pc had crashed. couldnt boot, it said "no boot for you today". went to bios, saw no sata-0/no boot options. thought the ssd was dead. turned power off.. back on, all is normal.
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: ... Sent "How are you doing today?" to my friend over FB messenger. "Action blocked." Tried 4 times. So I sent "Hey"... and it goes through.
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: that is fake news so they block it
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: doing means sex. block it
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: And don't try using anything with "fine" in it
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: fine is only used in the context of gunpowder grain. block it
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing is Absolute Tech: Feel free to live stream killing somebody though.
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: lots of hits. monetize. monetize. monetize
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: who monetizes though?
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So I sent a message of "Apparently I can't ask how are you doing today..." and it goes through.
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: you phrased it as a question before. questioning implies thinking. not allowed. reported to big brother.
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: How are you today, is probably the start of 100000 spam messages
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: We are all of one hive mind. (Action reported to Big Brother, acknowledgement, must delete)
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: go all yoda with the same words.... doing today how are you?
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: today you are doing?
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: with this one the Farce is weak
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Great, Arnica. Now I have a small voice in my head that sounds like Yoda from India saying, "Today you are doing?" on repeat.
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Just call any tech support to replace it.
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: i was once asked "Do it ever beep?"
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Do the lights flicker? That is good.
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I like when you get an extremely thick Indian accent and they say hello my name is Mary, or amanda or some very 'english' name
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I'm trying to make some Windows API calls to put two of three monitors to sleep... anyone have experience with this?
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Not able to figure out how to turn off a subset of monitors so far (maybe not possible?)
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I assume you started with https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd162617(v=vs.85).aspx
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Floki Tech: Can anyone tell me why my computer goes to sleep (every 10 minutes when i don't touch it) even though i have the settings at 30 minutes?
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: You are boring? lol
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Floki Tech: well that's true
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Type of computer, OS, etc. would help us
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Floki Tech: Toshiba Satellite p75-a laptop few years old, windows 10
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Floki Tech: just started doing it earlier today
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Just got some Windows updates pushed?
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Floki Tech: i think the last time was a few days ago or last week
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: What do you think changed, if not updates?
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: on win7:  start > control panel, then search for "power".  i have changed from win10 to ubuntu on my laptop, so don't know win10.
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Floki Tech: the only thing I did was delete some old games i dont ay anymore
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Floki Tech: oh well...thanks for trying :)
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Smae on Win 10. Hit start, type Power, select settings. Default is ten minute display power off.
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Floki Tech: I have all those at 30 minutes
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: reset them and reboot
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mint Tech: help
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mint Tech: the app crashed and now my game is glitching
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: hi guys, anyone know why i see {rdesc} and {/rdesc} when i type look?
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: check your tags
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So Duolingo has now added Japanese to its ever-growing language courses.
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: are you taking it
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I'm just starting with their french
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not yet, Noegel. I'm still working on my Spanish.
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I've been slacking off, though. :(
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel flicks her whip across Arcidayne's bare back. 
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: get to work then! 
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Again! I'm not sure I learned my lesson the first time!
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You feel sorry for Arcidayne as Failurette Noegel horribly abuses him.
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: how do i open menu bar in blow torch?
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: lower the keyboard and click the three vertical dots in the upper right corner
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: might be a problem eith my phone there is no 3 vertical dot on upper right
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: oh my
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: there is the Action Buttom which if i click opens into other buttons like n s e w d u . lear
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: no dots on both vertical and landscape modes? 
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: for some reason its not abld to rotate to portrait lo
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: let me try on my tablet :) thanks.
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: does the aard mushclient work on tablets?
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: well that sucks, was thinking about buying one for books, but want mushclient too
T3/r7/2017-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Use teamviewer to remote into your computer and use MUSH that way.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish roars in victory over his fallen enemy.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel curls up, catlike, on Long Time Fiendish's lap.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i have sound triggers set up but they've stopped working. I made sure they're directed to the right file and im trying to test the trigger, but no sound. any ideas? On mush 
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> triggers...on that page, is "enable trigger sounds" checked?
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: yeah, they're enabled
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: the echo part of the tirgger is working, not the sound part though
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: and yeah just double checked...enable trigger sand enable trigger sounds both checked
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and just to compare your computer's general audio settings/volume...try a youtube vid, make sure it plays with sound
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: yeah, i can open the sounds folder in my computer and play all the sound files there, just not through mush
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the individual trigger definition window, does it show the full file path to the sound, and does it work when you hit "test"?
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: nope, it doesn't work when i hit test but it does show the correct path
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that "only if inactive" is unchecked?
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: only if ianctive wasnt' checked.... i checked it and tested again, nothing
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want it not checked
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those are the only actual controlling settings that I know of, I'd have to punt and say try a MUSH relaunch and then a system reboot
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: okay thanks, just wanted to see if i was missing something obvious. thanks
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=10665
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Shaelynne: try this ^
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: reboot worked thanks
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, that should only be necessary for scripted sounds...going into a trigger definition and selecting a seems to properly handle file paths
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well reboot fixed it anyway
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool, must've been something glitchy
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, she is using WINE.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Found out somehow that a plugin had loaded twice, and though it was removed from the plugin list, it wasn't removed from memory, so installations of the same plugins (upgrades) failed to work properly.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: yeah that was super fun =( 
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: (On Shaelynne's computer, that is)
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I wound up remoting in to figure out why the plugin worked for me, not for her. I removed it, tried to install the new version, and it crashed on me. :P
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The foreign friends translator is quite humorous at times. "<name> is a frotter Ibet!" ---- translates from French to ---> "<name> is a rubbing Ibet!"
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Another time, it took the same sentence and yoda'd it... went from "Hey <name> how're you doing" to "Hey how're you doing <name>" :p
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: heh. well the automatic language detection isn't perfect
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It isn't, no.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I added the language it detected, though, just for fun.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: especially doesn't work with multiple mixed languages
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: "hey <name> how're you doing" ---- translates from Maori to ---> "hey how're you doing <name>"
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Maori was a new language for me. :P
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: somehow I doubt that it's valid maori
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Can't download 1917. Every time I do, Windows kicks back "Virus found."
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne smirks.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Severe trojan Win32/Spursint.F!cl
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: srs or joke?
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Serious.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I had to disable Windows Defender to even download it.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: every time an antivirus complains about it I have to send a copy of the file to the antivirus vendor to prove that it's ok
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've had to do that like 5 times
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do you know which file specifically is being flagged?
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: surely not the installer itself
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hold on, I'll show you the screenshot of the details.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this might be the first time being flagged by windows defender
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, Windows doesn't like the installer initially. I always have to click "More info" and "Run anyway". Initially pops up with "Don't run" and unless you know to click "More Info", no one would install.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's because I don't pay microsoft $100 for a certificate for the installers I generate
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean, *I* don't even generate the installers. AppVeyor does
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Might want to include that bit on the installer page, though.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: windows 10?
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Have to get ready for work, but I got it installed now, so that's a plus. Just have to turn off real-time protection.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish grumbles and growls. You wonder what's wrong...
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm reporting it now. thanks. find me whenever for your tp
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Eh, you can fido it to me if you truly want to. I don't do it for the rewards. I do it because you do quality work, you're always willing to help when you can, and that's more of what we need.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sent
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: they're asking me for what definition version you have
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay, give me a second.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: 1.243.883.0 created on 1:13:33 AM Monday, May 22, 2017
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So literally the latest version as of today.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: k
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: alright. I've reported it to them. we'll see what happens now.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Maybe getting too paranoid with WannaCry ransomware, heh.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I do know that Windows 10 S is going to make it even harder for some people to download, allowing only apps from their store.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know if other people can see this link https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/606cbc3615d63d6c73c1a342542f220c1c96de3243e53f355e50520807d653ea/analysis/1495461008/
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, it's viewable. 0/58 detections, which is good. :p
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Anyway, off to work. Long day ahead.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: on mush, the most bottom task bar, showing the timer to tick is not showing it anymore..  which plugin is that to reload?
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you still see the statusbar that the time was displayes on?
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the plugin os called time to tick
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: aardwolf_TICK_TIMER
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: sorry caps
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: thanks.. working now
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alasarin Tech: Zhalut is this better?
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: better than what
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alasarin Tech: sorry was asking mapping questions on newbie
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this is definitely the right channel for that
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alasarin Tech: so I have mushclient and winkles search and destroy
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: upgrade it now so you don't have to do it later
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alasarin Tech: i am using the patched version
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh ok
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alasarin Tech: the other version wouldn't work
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: does the search and destroy work in mudlet?
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok so what's the question?
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Larcenist: no
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alasarin Tech: so I was told I needed to add custom exits for it to work better, does it happen automatically as I explore or do I manually add stuff?
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Larcenist: mudlet can't use mushclient plugins
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: custom exits are manual
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: mapper can figure out N/E/S/W/U/D on its own but anything else you'll need to teach it how to do
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the most common use case for custom exits is opening doors
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Do you remember Land of Leged, where you have to buy the train tickets to WVirginia, Texas, Maine? Or First Ascent where you buy the key from the guy in the entryway? You can build those instructions into the mapper
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "Fiendish, why don't you add doors to the mapper?"  "Because you can already do it with custom exits."
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish beams with pride.
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: you could use that explanation for nearly any technological improvement
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: "why not drive a car?" "I can already walk, idiot."
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mmmm
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: eh
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think there are more valuable contributions I could make than making fewer things for players to do
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alasarin Tech: do I add the direction to cexit after? So if i need to open rubble for example and then go down do I add it as open rebel with a separator and then down? or will down take care of itself?
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alasarin Tech: open rubble not rebel woops
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you would do, for example, mapper cexit open east;east
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: except I put ;; where you see ;
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alasarin Tech: thank you:)
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it will try the command, and when the command gets you somewhere it will link the room you started in and the room you ended up in
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alasarin Tech: appreciate the assistance!
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: np
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: you take your dirty gold, crimson
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: mis :p
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alasarin Tech: do I have to make the same custom exit for both directions on a door?
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alasarin Tech: k
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alasarin Tech: once the mapper starts getting exits its pretty fantastic
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: have you done portals?
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alasarin Tech: actually its pretty nice before, but super sweet after
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alasarin Tech: i haven't touched portals yet
T3/r7/2017-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: ooh it gets EVEN better then, given you have the portals to begin with
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Type windows key plus tab :P
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ?
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: It looks better then the old alt + tab user interface.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in Debian they look the same
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So, anyone having issues with MUSH command line refusing to expand to two or more lines?
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Hold Ctrl then enter
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes, I know about that one
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's new
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's nothing to do with plugins, is it?
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I wasn't sure if there was some setting that was set that I wasn't aware of.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's caused by part of the fix to the main output resizing bug
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ouch.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the solution is obvious to me. i'll fix it now actually. gimme a minute
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's because i resize the input bar to the number of lines, which clearly won't work if you have one really long line that wraps
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I assume that's how you noticed?
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, was doing a quick Lua script on command line that expanded past the command line. I got confused when I couldn't see it.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nod. fixing it now
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I noticed it the other day and then forgot
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Even when I tried resizing it manually, it failed, so made me wonder if there was a setting.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'll still chip you a token for reminding me
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, thanks. :)
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I just have to figure out a good way to know if the line has wrapped. I guess I could measure the width of the input text and compare with the width of the window
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: at the moment I count crlfs
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think the only way to measure text width is in a miniwindow. heh.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: luckily the plugin already has one I can use
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm. I see how to set the input font, but not how to get it.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean, I can get the name. but I also need to find the size...
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: GetInfo -> 23 is Input font name.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: 214 is Input font height
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but it's in pixels
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Courier 10 gives back 16
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Courier New 10, I mean
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: https://websemantics.uk/articles/font-size-conversion/ ?
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I suppose it suggests at least a roundabout way of finding it by looking at all sizes within some reasonable range to find the right one
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmm, 10 gives height 16, the site I showed you says 13...
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: GetOption("input_font_weight") gives 400. no idea what that means
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Boldness, I suppose.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hah
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: \\\print(GetOption("input_font_height"))
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which is, I guess, different than GetInfo(214) which also calls itself input font height
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: perfect
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: now to find the right measurement to compare against
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sometimes I have no idea what these settings mean
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what's the difference between  262 - World window non-client width (long)  and    264 - World window client width (long)
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what is the non-client world window?
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That... is a very good question.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: looks like maybe GetInfo(264)-25
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I hope I don't have to actually do -25 though
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmm?
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: width of one line of input text
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: itty-bitty bawler input widths - Go Daddy!
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a pet peeve is the "itty-bitty input boxes" provided by packages
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's not even relevant to what's going on.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: looks like GetInfo(281) is better
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok fixed
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Arcidayne: try https://raw.githubusercontent.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/fb59bccb6fa67a7398f441a4ba238b1bd144934f/MUSHclient/worlds/plugins/aard_layout.xml
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Testing it now.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Seems to work writing text, so that's a plus. Manual resize doesn't work, but I wonder how many people actually use that.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: (Disclaimer on writing text working: I only went out to 3 lines.)
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: manual resize is stupid. the box automatically resizes 
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you want to manually resize you have to disable automatic resizing which is a hidden option
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: at least if you want it to stick once you start typing
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oo, nice, resizes the main layout, too, automatically.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: my box resizing shenanigans only take effect if the hidden setting is set to auto instead of fixed 
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but yeah, my general view is that manually increasing the size of the input bar instead of letting mushclient expand it only as needed is kinda silly
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's just unusable whitespace
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: cool, though. token sent
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Thanks. :)
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: thanks for the nudge on that bug
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sure thing.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edly Tech: Is there a way to make the mushclient mapper go to the start of a zone?
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: xset mark via search and destroy plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sure, mapper goto <room id>
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There's no "start" of a zone, though. Only the room the MUD designates as the drop off.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You could write a script, but it'd take some work. Or you can use Winkle's Mapper Extender.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edly Tech: Ah cool, I'll check those out, thanks for the recommendations
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Writing a script, though, you'd be able to form your own "start" rooms. So create a table of areas with your desired start room id, then create an alias to search that table and run to that room.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: zones don't have starts
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: some zones have half a dozen different entrances
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: well in some sense they do, but not really meaningful to anyone but the builder
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edly Tech: "the room runto takes you to" or "closest room in the area to me now" would be good enough if there's not an obvious start
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but some plugins mark rooms as "start" of area
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Edly: those aren't the same
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edly Tech: I'm saying either one would be good enough
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well you can easily enough set up the first one with an alias
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: like mapper extender lets you set a room to be the "starting" room and then xrt <area> takes you there
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edly Tech: cool
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: the second one would be more complicated
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but that's just a thin facade over making an alias for mapper goto
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Edly Tech: yeah I was hoping it was a built in feature so I wouldn't have to put in the room IDs myself, but I don't mind doing that
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the second one is definitely more complicated, and I hope that people refrain from doing it
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I made the second one once a long time ago now, but I opted to throw the code away instead of including it
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: alternatively you could just setup a seperate one for each of the entrances to an area
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so you could have myrt kobol1 and myrt kobol2
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: etc
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: took me a few seconds to realize that myrt is my rt
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I thought it was a new word
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Myrt!
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: sorry was just using it as an example
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I like using the "I'm too dumb to remember my own alias name" method
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Myrt was last on: Mon Aug 17 02:32:06 2015
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nothing wrong with fuzzy aliases
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: so for Afterglow, my alias is: ^(afte(r(g(l(o(w)?)?)?)?)?)$
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I have an alias for my alt's name because I never remember it
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: and I have at least one of those for every area.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol nice
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but then again I haven't logged her in in like 3 years
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: actually only 689 days, but whatever
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Raded: are they all their own aliases or is it one run alias with a generic capture that then searches a list?
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: all their own aliases. I'm not smart, I just brute force it.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hey whatever works
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: something that works is always smart
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: on an entirely unrelated subject, it disappoints me that many laptops today cannot be purchased or upgraded to more than 8GB of ram :\
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: otherwise absolutely perfect machines fall below my use threshold
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I know right?
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I was window shopping for one the other day and my choices were a bunch of reasonably priced machines that could only go to 8 GB, an overpriced microsoft machine that came with 16 and couldn't be changed, or a ridiculously overpriced machine that came with 8 but could be ugpraded to 32
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: exactly the same boat
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: actually I need a laptop for my wife who has higher ram needs than I do
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because she keeps a billion browser tabs open and that isn't cheap
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and a lot of them are google docs/drive/sheets/mail/books tabs, which are really heavy
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: google is like the worst offender for gigantic web pages. her gmail tab alone consumes 1gb
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's insane
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: wtf
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: google has such inefficient code,d it is shameful
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: how can I add my own short cut keys to MushClient
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You mean aliases?
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there are two ways, depending on the kind of keys you want to use and what you want to send 
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Jemina probably means either macros or accelerators
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Jemina: I don't know how accessible this site is, but I have a page on doing that that tries to clarify the distinction between the two ways of doing it
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Jemina: the url is  https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Writing-Macros
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khwarizmi Tech: Note that Aardwolf includes its own alias system
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Aliases and macros are not the same thing.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: how to repeat o n blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: i just figured out ! repeats my last command the other day
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: not sure if that is just mush
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: the ! is mudside
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: the ! is mudside
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: yep. ool
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: if you type !! in client it sends ! and does last command
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: if you type !! in client it sends ! and does last command
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: if you type ! it does last command clientside
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: i think emm is broken
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I can confirm that.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: broken, twisted, warped, and cracked.
T3/r7/2017-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: it took so littõe
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: why do i keep getting stuck then after 2 min somtimes longer it tells me aardwolf isnt responding? and have to close it? i am playing permanently on a ohone. it is kike this for the past 2 weeks
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: bad spelling phone*
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Do you use Blowtorch form android Playstore?
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: It can be bad signal aswell.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: yes i downloaded the client from there 
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: or maybe this phone is asking for a funeral soon
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Google 'blotorch v2 test happygoatstudios', and download that version from their forum download page, its an APK file suited for androided, . Its far less buggy then the one you are using atm.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: 'blowtorch v2 test happygoatstudios',
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: i tried to download it before. but for some reason my phone is blocking it. not sure if it is settings on my ohone i habe to set or if it is the antivirus app im using 
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I think you should try and download it somehow. Its the only thing that will make aardwolf not freeze all the time
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Try Opera mini browser or UC browser for downloading it
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: thanks cackle will playa round with the settings and see. or deactevate the antivirus app will do it somehow :) 
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle nods at Atomic.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Floki Tech: I just got the plugin for the campaign window and I was just wondering if you can move the location of it and change the font on it?
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the bast one? if so there is an M on the top left, click it and do what you need to
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Floki Tech: the gannon one
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish stretches luxuriously. Kinda makes you want to, doesn't it?
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Slow day today.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: seems like
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Anyone have a sec to help me figure out what I'm doing wrong with mushclient triggers?
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Go into detail.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What are you trying to do, and what is it not doing?
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Trying to do a simple thing that triggers on my attack message ('Your flaming bbite ...') that sends the 'dirt' command.  I've tried various patterns and it doesn't seem to be working.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, it's "bite" for one, not sure if that was a typo in your message or trigger.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Also, need to be careful with those types of triggers.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: lol, yeah typo'd in the message, it's spelled right in the trigger.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: copy and paste the entire trigger pattern please
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so we can see it
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also tell us what damage setting you are using
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (help damage)
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah, I know they can be dangerous, but I figure at low levels it saves a little effort. // Sure, sec.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you may also want to combine damage into one output or you'll spam yourself out with multiple attacks
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Sheriff Shindo.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Dont use that trigger against human fights, thats botting.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yeah, it's toeing the line of a bot
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: human fights as in PvP?
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Not sure what my damage setting is or how to look at that, but the pattern is: *your flaming bite*
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type "damage"
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Type 'dam' to see what your damage setting is.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Oddly it triggered on that message. Just doesn't in combat // I would never use somethign like that in a fight against a player.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I'm in mode 1.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish whistles appreciatively.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: I'm not sure there's any scenario where something would be botting agains players but not agains mobs.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you definitely don't want to be in mode 1 if you're going to try and trigger on it
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I prefer damage 6.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Morn nods at Arcidayne.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: The damage message I get is [1] or [2] followed by 'Your flaming bite <damage message> <mob> [nnn]
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Then your trigger pattern would need to be \[\d+\] Your flaming bite .*$ -- and marked as Regex.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: damage 1 is fine to autocast on like that because there'd only be one line per round
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: until you have multiple damage types
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: there are probably better ways to trigger an attack every round but I avoid all that to make sure I don't accidently bot
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Hm.  If it's in a grey area re:botting, I'll just make a short alias instead.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yeah, unless you're setting up a way to manually enable that trigger each time you go into combat, you would be botting if you went afk in a room with an aggro
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so anyway, let's ignore for the moment the specific motivation for this trigger, yeah? You're trying to make a trigger and failing to get it to match
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: On a related note, I can't seem to trigger on any actual mud output.. tried to set up an autodrink thing and it isn't triggering on the hungry/thirsty messages.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There is no accidental botting. There's carelessness, though, in creating scripts like this. The bottom line is "If I have to go away for a minute, will my character keep fighting for me?" And if the answer is yes, you assume all risks that come with it, including nuking.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: right, this is an odd problem. do you know how to copy/paste triggers?'
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: No.  Hrm, lemme check something.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in the triggers screen there's a Copy button. if you select the trigger and click Copy, you can  then paste it into a note and we can all see exactly what it's doing
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's an easy thing. You open up triggers, highling the problem one, click "Copy" button (bottom right).
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: WEll I'm a moron.  I'd been hitting the wrong button and putting them into aliases. :/
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that way we can see what you're doing wrong
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh well there's also that
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: glad to be of service
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes. Aliases != triggers. :p
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Sorry to have bothered you with my brain fart, but thanks for the advice re:botting.  I'll see if I can figure out how to set up a button to click to enable it or something before I go any further with it.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: Arcidayne: if it's a reacting script to being attacked, your character would pretty much keep fighting with or without the trigger (actually, the trigger would probably reduce the time). so I fail to see the difference. that said, I don't have any active triggers, so that is not to be interpreted as a suggestion to go ahead with it :)
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: honestly just don't afk in aggro rooms, that's illegal as it is (afaik
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As a side note, you want to anchor your triggers as much as possible. You don't want *your flaming bite* because every time that message comes along on a channel, in MUD text, whever, your trigger will fire.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Read help autocast
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I suggest reading help bot and the like
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Right.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Morn: It's not illegal, per se. It's when you don't die as a result that it becomes illegal. :p
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you go afk in an aggro room, but you have nothing that keeps you alive and you die the next time the mob pops, then you won't be penalized.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: PK autocast is illegal.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But autoquaffers and autocasters tend to be left on, and so running away from the keyboard turns into a dangerous situation for your character.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Not going to risk it then for actual combat stuff.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: also going afk in aggro rooms that you can kill without doing anything would be botting even without any triggers
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: up/enter is time-saving enough.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's better to use macros or aliases.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and there are ways to set up the numpad for hotkeys
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: what I liked doing is create an in-game alias called "attackspell" that I would change as I leveled, then use different aliases to cast it either three times or five times and just spam a room.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: shift + ctrl + 1 for numpad config
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh god, I love numpad. I have 0 set to my attack alias, 1 set to brandishing staves, etc.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: infact you can bind alias with the alt+enter -> keypad option
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Originally I was trying to figure out how to do a smart alias, where I could enter a command that would dirt every round once I entered combat and stop when combat ended, but I'm pretty new to mushclient, and even that sounds questionable.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: do a client side alias that takes a parameters, uses either the best skill or spell to attack the target (once), uses the same skill/spell a few times without the parameter (enough times to kill it), and maybe a spellup at the end
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Emm: true, but accidents happen, and I think there would be more leniency if you're afk in an aggro room with no autoquaffer/autocaster.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Bishoujo Raded.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: that would allow you to kill with a single command (as long as you don't get to mobs that would kill you if not using pots during the fight).
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: once you have your trigger text worked out you can just create an alias to add the trigger and have the exp message (or no exp message) delete the trigger
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: or if you want to get fancy you can have an alias to 'enable' the trigger, and trigger it to disable on exp message
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: the method above is pretty similar to what you were trying to do: the combat skill/spell is cast once/round, and at the end the remaining casts are pretty much instataneous (failed skills/spells tend to be)
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah.  I could do that in tinyfugue or tintin++ or zmud or cmud even, but mushclient is brand new.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: alternatively you could have the delete/disable trigger off of your noncombat hp/mana prompt
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: check out nick gammon's documentation on web
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I've been reading some of it, just haven't had much time to absorb the complex stuff yet.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: also if you know lua the config files are actually saved in lua so you can just edit those
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I've tinkered with lua a bit.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Does anyone use NVDA with the Aardwolf mush? Please tell me how to get to read if you do.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: anyone here familiar with tomato?
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: or entware in general i guess
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: anyone running mush on wine, with bast eq miniwin and is successful in opening eqid miniwin on mouseover?
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: im trying to figure out a way to cap bandwidth for specific clients on my router
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: I would rather not use it than run a vm just for mush :(
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Nevela: type checkversion please
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Almost every week im in Mush drinking wine :)
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: r1918
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: lol cackle
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm. are you getting an error message?
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: yes sir, https://gist.github.com/abutbul/c97391e096408b5318c794ee846b130b
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: k. gimme a sec
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: of course, thank you. I wish I was able to tackle this myself
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do you know what version of bast's plugins you have?
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: r2097
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: at least that's the build I downloaded
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: i think that is the version number for the client itself
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's funny. I think bast fixed a bug at the same time as I fixed it for him, but we must have cross-fixed so that it broke again
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you give me a minute I can fix it on my end
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the fix should be very simple if you want to test it for me
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: that's awesome, I'd love to
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: for a couple years now I have been dealing with a buggy version of bast that doesn't continue hunt trick when you don't have the hunt skill
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Nevela: great. just at the very end of the worlds/plugins/aardwolf_colors.lua after everything add just "atletter_to_color_value = colour_conversion" without the quotation marks
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: on a new line
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: then reload the plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: though maybe with the way some plugins rely on other plugins, restarting mushclient would be better
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: Fiendish, outside of colour_conversion {...} right?
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: on a new line at the very very end
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes outside
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: we're basically just making a second name for colour_conversion
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: works like a flippin charm!
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: perfect. I'll throw it into my version then so bast doesn't have to keep changing that
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: thank you so much
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: since he already changed it once!
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: thank you both for making this experience so awesome whenever I revisit.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: present for reporting the bug, even though it's not technically mine
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (sent)
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: I was thinking - this will just be a rant. I end up with a solution and a TP. luckiest day !
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I did offer a mushclient bug bounty
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Regarding buggy version of Bast's that doesn't continue hunt trick... It's not buggy. The messages were updated, so you have to fix it yourself.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: I guess I am lucky for not ignoring the latest release that just popped out after I installed the latest release today to get back in
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: i probably need to get a new version of my client and my plugins
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: its been a couple years
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: then see what I need to fix myself :)
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm about to push another update fixing the eq miniwin on my end
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: if that's the only change I am skipping that one!
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it'll be exactly what I told you to add
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/commit/86d0904ef9de689c89e66381ab7b48b7a62ffd90
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Fiendish: Did MS ever reply to your "virus"?
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes. they said "sorry about the inconvenience. try again now."
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but you might as well try again 2 minutes from now instead of now
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: pushed. new installer will probably be finished in about 20 seconds
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok 1919 is up
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Downloading, no virus hits, now installing.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Loaded faster, heh.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Was expecting at least 45 seconds of load time. :p
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you mean because it would delete itself?
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: what happened in 1919? other than us invading costa rica? .. you should name those versions with something that happened that year.. after 2020 you can start inventing what happens next :)
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I meant MUSH opened up faster than normal. Usually, I'm met with the splash screen for 45 seconds or so. Didn't happen this time.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Nuanse: you can find out in the book Paris 1919
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: My spalsh screen logo is like 2 seconds.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 45 seconds seems excessive
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: 1-2 secs
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think I can disable the splash screen. think I should?
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'd feel kinda bad doing that. Nick's daughter made the image.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, it's usually loading the plugins. It may just be my laptop, not sure. As far as disabling the splash screen, I'm indifferent.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's a beautiful image.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish stretches luxuriously. Kinda makes you want to, doesn't it?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: lua pattern matching question
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if I expect a pattern "foo (%w+)" or just "(%w+)", how do I construct the pattern? 
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: for an alias?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well trying to use string.match
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so not regex
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: is this in mush or cmud?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: does not make a difference really, but i would probably just do an if statement
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Redryn: you're trying to make the foo optional?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Lua patterns don't really accomodate that. you can make inividual characters optional, but not whole word groups
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you'll have to use the regex library
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and if say there's a bar instead of foo I would like it not to match
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wait
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so you want either one word, or two words but only if the first one is foo?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well you can do it with two calls to match
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or similar
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: match on "%w %w" and check if the first one is foo or not
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or something
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe not quite that, but anyway my original statement I think still holds. Lua patterns can't make whole words optional
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ok fair enough, so only regex can do that
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but mushclient has PCRE https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=lua_rex
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: doing this in an aard mprog, don't think it has pcre
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ah
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: fair
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: gimme a min to think about it
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's ok, I guess will have to do two string matches
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: can check for abbreviated foo's too that way I guess
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: hey fiendish when are you going to port mushclient to android and iOS?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not possible
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: why not?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: beeeeeecause it's not possible?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ok, when will you write a client for android?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably never
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: isn't there already a client for android?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Man, mudding with swype text entry would be ass. :/
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: isnt there a easier way to play via a phone?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: isn't supported, so i think it gets buggy with newer android versions
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: there are several telnet clients for android and iOS but I don't know of anything that is all that good
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: doing fancy things with text on a tiny screen is hard
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: if someone coukd be so kind to mape a mapper like downloadable program it would be awesomeness
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: and doing fancy stuff with text on tiny screens that can be various different sizes shapes, and have various idiosyncricies is even more obnoxious
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but you are fiendish!
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: probably be easier to setup a web-based version of mushclient and then access it via chrome or whatever on your phone
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: or just put mush on your own computer and remote connect to it with your phone.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah, there's probably a vnc client for android/ios.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: my computer died and is burried no option there to remote connect 
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: yeah that is probably the easiest since it doesn't require anything that isn't out of the box
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: and you could get really detailed with the aliases and triggers and hotkeys and stuff
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Androids Blowtorch client is very good with regex support.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Hrm.. I don't suppose there's a way to modify an alias with a trigger in mushclient is there?  F.ex, I have movement bound to the keypad, but I'd like to have a trigger that looks for (exit)s and then the next directional key I press, if it's a door, inserts 'open <dir>' before sending the command to move.  Probably way tooc omplicated.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: yes there is
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: First I should ask: is there a simpler way to do that?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but for that you should probably just use custom exits
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: mapper cexit open east;
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Oh yeah, I remember skimming something about that.  I'll go find more info.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: mapper cexit open east;;east
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: addalias will create alias
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: There's a limited number of them tho, right?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: mapper help exits - has some good info as well
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Awesome, thanks.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: i mean maybe there is but it would be in the millions or something
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Ok.  Thought I remembered seeing something about a limit.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: Raavus check out this, it's a bit faulty and outdated but if you can catch up you will be the master of cexits! https://web.archive.org/web/20150819093750/http://www.holgerschurig.de:80/games/aardmapper.html
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Although, using cexits requires setting something up for every exit I come across.  I was kinda hoping for a more general solution, but it would probably fail in a lot of situations anyway. // I'll take a look, thanks.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: no there is a limit to the number of aliases you can have on the mud itself, but not on the client side, I really can't think of anything that there is a limited number of on the client side
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: well, I have 3703 cexits... so you wont hit the limit in a few :)
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: is not cexit limited to mudclient, so once you finish, it will be done
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: there is a limit of 300 rooms (by default) for mapper runto or xrt commands
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: well you could setup a trigger for magical wards bounce you back to interupt your speedwalk and do a cexit
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so that when you ran into those doors the client would try to setup a bypass for you
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but it would probably fail alot too
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: not to mention there are a bunch that you need to get keys for
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I tend to just use mapper notes for key location/hints
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: is not cexit limited to mudclient, so once you finish, it will be donecp request
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: miss
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: well, for me its very interesting using a normal alias than fiendish edited for me, if you want I can post it
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: just need to add and edit the command as you want, and for sure it will works
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Sure, I'd like to take a look.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: exits from client and like s,e,w,n,u,d
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: so, you can add the custom exit and when youare in the room and type one address it reads it and after that send the command you did
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: btw, where can I post it, don't remember the url
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Ohh, mapper cexit only works if you're navigating by mapper (or, presumably, speedwalks).  I do a lot of map navigating by keyboard, so I may need to tinker with my original proposed oslution.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: nods
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Where do I find the keypad binding definitions in mushclient?  Or is that a mud thing?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: you mean macros?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: or keypad?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I found it, in the keypad settings.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: check out macros also
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: It's just a direc tmap, nothing complicated.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: game configure macros
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: be careful not to setup macros that interfere with normal operations
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah.  gonna have to tinker a bit there. Hmm.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: numlock matters too
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: at least for the 10-key keypad
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Hm, might be able to do like shift or ctrl keypad bindings via macros for going through doors.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: side note, why do we call the keypad 10-key when it has 16-keys on average?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Probably the simplest solution. // The original keypad was only 10 keys, one for each number, with levers that changed the mode.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: you could, but cexits are way simpler
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: But that was on actual key entry machines, nto keyboards.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Except cexits don't work when navigating with keypad.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: uhm they don't?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Unless I could change the keypad bindings to somehow use mapper directions. // Nope, just tested it.  Keypad directly sends north, south, etc.  Doesn't appear to interface with the mapper.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: hmm I never knew that
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I never use keypad for navigation
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: emm, does you typing east use cexit? how would keypad?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: just so used to nsewud
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Super handy for following a map around to find cp/q targets.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: raavus is this your main or alt?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Main.  I might have other characters on here, but I have no idea what their names/passwords are anymore.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: well I guess you could set it up to, but it would be ridiculously complicated in the only ways I can think to do it.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah.  Hrm.. lemme test something.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: i think you should first get the hang of the cexits, after you get more experience with the client (you sound savvy) you will start to come up with hacks and tricks of your own. it would be great if you share some with us! :) 
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: clicking on rooms in the mapper uses cexits though
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so I imagine there is a more elegant way to do it
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: cexits are very helpful, i have lem-dagor regular/battle mode kept in cexits so hunting is easier
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Nevela: Yeah, cexits seem super handy for some situations, and I'll definitely be using them.  Re:savvy, I've done a lot of tinkering with various clients over the years, just not much direct experience with mushclient.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Emm: That's what I meant re:binding keypad to use the mapper, if that's a thing I can do.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I don't knokw of a way to but it seems like there should be given the functionality of mapper
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Note that 'mapper thisroom' gives directions with corresponding room numbers. If you could write a script to capture that info, you can essentially do an alias to replace the keypad's directional movement.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: might involve doing some data mining though
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: would slow you down though
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Hey, that's not a bad idea
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: Raavus it's pretty straight forward, kind reminds me of mIRC scripting. 
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Tho it's essentially teh same as capturing the default exits display and modifying a macro that keypad calls instead of the direction itself.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you wouldn't need to use mapper here, just update it from the database as you move, but would fail in mazes
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah, I'm getting the hang of it, it just does things a bit different to the stuff I'm used to.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: mIRC is a kinda 90's reference lol
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i mean mapper thisroom
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: It'd fail in a lot of cases unless I find a way to interface with mapper.  I'll be happy with basic functionality and working out the more complicated stuff by hand.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Yes, I meant mapper in general gives that info, thus having able to provide it for mapper thisroom; something similar could be done for directions
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: sorry for being old lol Ontuct
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Heh, I used to do mirc scripting too, don't feel bad.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: not bad just old :G:
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Old, but gold!
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yep.  We dinosaurs of the internet.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I'm old for being able to date the reference
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Can they be reowned?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Mis
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: there used to be a wonderful page called "Using the Mapper for Fun and Profit"
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you can find it iin the internet archives
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: is was removed, but still available here: http://web.archive.org/web/20150819093750/http://www.holgerschurig.de/games/aardmapper.html
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Wow, that is amazing.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: it is really hady for setting up mapper
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yep, bookmarked.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: you can also do "mapper help" for in client help on the mapper :)
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Hm.  Ok, tinkering with the exit-matching trigger.. how do I get a trigger to match on more than one parenthesized exit in the exits list?  Regexp hurts my head.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mining mapper thisroom would be silly. the game is already sending you information about your current room over gmcp
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: How do I get at that info Fiendish?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Using-GMCP
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Hm, room.info doesn't seem to say whether or not an exit has a door.  Am I missing something, or is there another way to get that info?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you don't need
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: How would I get that info then? If you're not up on what I'm trying to do, I'm trying to figure out which exits have doors, and insert an 'open <dir>' command before moving in that direction with the keypad.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also I wasn't talking about adding cexits automatically. I was talking about using them automatically when walking manually. Sorry I wasn't clearer.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I can get that info by just triggering on the exits list for each room, but if there's a more elegant way to do it with gcmp I'd like to give that a shot.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Raavus chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Ok.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Hrm.  Got a regex match working for the exits, only it seems to only match the first (<dir>).  But I tested it on the regex101.com test site recommended by Gammon's regex post and it says it matches every instance of (<dir>).  I curently have it to script: print "%1 | %2 |...' for all 6 possible exits, and it's only printing out 'North | | | | |'.  Not sure what I'm doing wrong.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Where are you capturing data from?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: The list of exits in 'look'.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Hm, the match might not be set global.. how do I do that in mushclient?  /g doesn't seem to work.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Iono, it's a shot in the dark.  It only seems to pull the first exit into %1, and %2, etc are blnak.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: post your pattern
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: (north|east|south|west|up|down){1,}
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I also tried putting parens around the whole thing, as suggested in the mushclient regex guide, and it didn't help.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: any reason you're using {1,} over its equivalent + ?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't understand why you aren't using gmcp room.info.exits
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you're looking for parentheses, your pattern won't do it
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I wasn't clear on exactly how + worked.  I originally used {1,6} then realized {1,} worked fine too. // I looked at room.info before, and it didn't indicate whether or not the exits have a door.  Does room.info.exits workd ifferently?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: n
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: n
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: right. I forgot you're looking for closed doors
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: It matches north with a paren, just not east, etc.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: your pattern definitely doesn't match on parentheses
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't see \( or \) anywhere in there
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Oh wait.  Sorry, forgot I stripped out the \( and \) in my testing thinking they were causing problems.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: That part worked before.  But at this point I'm just trying to match more than one of anything on the same line and return them via % wildcards.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well tell you what. I'm not sure about the method you're trying right now, but what if instead you do (\(north\))? etc
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Will try it.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and i believe there is a way to name/number each of those so %1 is always the same, ie north
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: It's possible that mushclient needs explicitly different sets of parentheses
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for capture groups
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Hrm.  That may be.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: haha
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: your pattern doesn't have any spaces in it
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Oh.  Derp.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so it can't match consecutively
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: try (north |east | etc
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well, except with \(\) in there
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but then you need to make them optional
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: man, no, my earlier suggestion is better
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or was it...
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: one sec. I have an idea
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Ah, got it.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Ok, listening.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hah. I need a room with multiple doors
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I'm in one.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm sure that helps you, but it doesn't help me
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Sorry, I kinda thought you were an imm.  There are several in the underdark.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Fiendish is such a jerk
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Oh, he changed titles
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: My assumption, my bad.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah the other day
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish , first time caller.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Me love you Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, yeah, I think you're going in the wrong direction. here's why...
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Doesn't surprise me, I'm sure there's a lot I just don't know.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you're going to need to anchor this pattern no matter what
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can't just trigger on (north) because just now I said it and you don't want to trigger on that
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Right.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so you're triggering on the exits line, no matter what it says
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: ^[ Exits: blah should work?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yep. k.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: as long as you have note prefix active, yes
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so so capture blah into a single string. then you can search that string to extent of your heart's desire
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: The other problem I have atm is that %0 is returning '(north) (east)' which is fine, but then %1 is (east) and %2 is east, north isn't anywhere in there for some reason.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and you don't have to worry about some complex trigger pattern because you can do it in multiple commands
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I was hoping to avoid scripting if I could.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I'm not all that familiar with lua.  I've tinkered a bit, but nothing serious.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what are you planning to do with the output of your regex?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: say you get "north", "south"   then what?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Hm.  Actually you're right, I'm probably going to have to script anyway, cause I want to either modify the keypad bindings or make temporary aliases for the appropriate directions.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: then he seds commands open direction;direction into world
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Basically I want to look for doors so that if I hit a direction that has a door, it slaps in a 'open <dir>' first.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: So it needs to be contingent on some kind of keypress rather than just opening every door around me all the time.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sec. my sister just called me. i'll be back in a minute and I can help
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: np.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I thought you were going the gmcp way
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I was gonna, but I can't get info about doors via room.info(.exits).
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Don't need door info!
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Just gotta have to define cexits for those that need it
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I'm pretty sure I can make this work.  Just waiting on Fiendish to help me with a couple of the finer points.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you could grab the direction from room.info.exits and then do mapper goto ID
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: that way mapper uses cexits
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Yes, that's how I'd imagine it, Nuanse
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: nod. so would I
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: "exits":    "w"="38703" --> mapper goto 38703
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I think that'd be way more complex.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Also it would require I have cexits set up, and a lot of these areas I've not even been to before.  Whereas my way would work anywhere with simple doors.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if you dont set up your cexits, you cant use VERY useful plugins like xrt etc
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: It does sound simpler, but it is very limited, specifically to doors that do not need keys (which can usually be passed with passdoor)
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah, I just want simple, shorthand navigation.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hi, sorry it took so long
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: raavus still around?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: looks like maybe not
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Is there a bug in consider perhaps, or maybe I am not using it correctly.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: the look command shows four mobs
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: the consider all command shows two
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: I can fight the one that does not show up in consider
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: so it's not a visible thing
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: not really a tech channel thing, but "con" is only showing you two mobs?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no idea, sorry
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: And what channel would this sort of thing be posted in?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: since it has to do with an in-game command, Q/A
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: not as many people keep the tech channel on
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Welp, consider it a bugreport in the wrong channel. :)
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Hmm, after 10H30M of mudding, MUSH only used 2megs data. very good.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: that has very little to do with mush
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Explain.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: the server is the one that generates the output. pretty much any mud client would get a similar result
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: My resource monitor shows only internet activity is MUSH and svchost.exe   Ive been tracking all incoming/outcoming data all day. Its only MUSH thats using internert
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: paranoid, I like that. what are you using? tcpdump? port mirroring?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: you missed the point. you said it as if it's MUSH that gets such a good result. I was suggesting that, for a server-based game like this, any client (including MUSH) would get the same (or similar) result. I wasn't doubting your result :)
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Im comparing MUSH against other online games.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: anyone else experiencing issues after updating mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: lundfu what issues? which version did you run before? did you just 1918 to 1919 or 1917 to 1919?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: it was after 17 to 18. just did 19 and still have issues 
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: i see nothing on the screen but am online 
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: commands get no response and my mini windows afe all screwed up. on my phone now 
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: oh so can you tell me which version you upgraded from? and to which one?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: maybe fresh install (you can backup your mapper db etc)
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: updated tuesday night and fhen the issues started
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: i normally stay up to date so i think it was 16 to 17
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: but im not sure
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: well if you want to wait till fiendish comes back on line, otherwise you can try and re-install (backup old folder, run installer to new location)
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: hmmmm... fresh install has everything back
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: but now I need to get my mapper and stuff moved over
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: at least I can mess with it now on the computer instead of my phone
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: thank you for the help!
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: which bast plugin version are you using?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: ummm... let me check
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: if you are running 1919 you should be running bast r2097
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: honestly not sure. they're from 6/7/16
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: wouldn't the bast updatechecker have prompted an update?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: what does the second line in BastmushChanges.txt say
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what's up
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: Lundfu has no text on terminal in client since upgrading. 
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish groans loudly.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what version?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 1919?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: I asked these questions, wasn't able to get info about version before upgrade, but after upgrade he's on latest. trying to understand which bast he's running because a clean install works fine
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: how do I check the bast version?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: what does the second line in BastmushChanges.txt say
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: it should be where you unpacked all of bast plugins
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Lundfu: do me a quick favor and type "prompt data" and tell me what it says
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: it's 2096 for bast
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: and which line? there's 4 respones for prompt data
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: this is also on the clean install
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the second and last
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or the first and third
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or all of them
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: :)
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: let's start with the first one
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: [%h/%Hhp %p %m/%Mmn %P %v/%Vmv %N %Xtnl %d Tells:%t]%c
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: Rawcolor Game Prompt   : [%h/%Hhp %p %m/%Mmn %P %v/%Vmv %N %Xtnl %d Tells:%t]%c
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: {chan ch=tracker}[Tracker]: :pup #29 : +5trains Time Since Last Pup(0min 43sec)
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: Regular Battle Prompt  : [%h/%Hhp %m/%Mmn %Xtnl %b %d ]%c
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: Rawcolor Battle Prompt : [%h/%Hhp %m/%Mmn %Xtnl %b %d ]%c
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: after updating the mush I receive this, any way to remove the first part?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: new mush no longer uses channel tags
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: to remove {chan ch=tracker}
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: ohhhh, so no way to fix it?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: tried tags off?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so if you want to put fake channels into the communication log you should use the method explicitly for that
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure someone updated the tracker for that issue
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there's a StampAndStoreFromOutside function (I think that's what it's called) in the comm log plugin tht you should use instead of faking tags
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok...well...Lundfu
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I thought it was just StoreFromOutside.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Mohan: But like I said I think someone already did it
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Lundfu: you said it still happens even with a clean install?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: Fiendish: thanks just looking for he/she then
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's Mendaloth who does the fake tracker.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Finger him, he has it updated on his site.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: Thanks Arcidaine
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: nope. I'm good with a clean install. Just have to move over all of the plugins and mapper stuff
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but also rough
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: so something funky was going on with the update but not a fresh install. same download
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: let me think about that for a minute.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: no worries. I appreciate the help here
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: still have the old folder sitting around?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if the answer is yes then I will tell you that I have one more question and a request
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: yup! just add old."
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: excellent. then I have one more question and a request.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: sure!
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do you auto-login or do you type your password in manually?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: There's an auto-login?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that answer is good enough
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lundfu grins evilly.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you would, please email me your worlds/Aardwolf.mcl file
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: destination address is in my finger
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: nice e-mail address...
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmm, question regarding #sub when you get a chance, Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Lundfu: You should see his parent site: not-porn.com :D
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I have to ask about the password, because MUSHclient's autologin stores the password in that file in a munged but reversible format and I don't even want to accidentally be exposed to someone else's password
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but if you don't use auto-login then obviously it won't be there
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: just worlds - Aardwolf file?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: correct
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: just sent
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you want to look inside it and double check, it will open with any text editor
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hyup, that's the one. got it
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: I replaced mendaloth plugin and still same, I think I will wait for him
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What do you mean still same?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Did you follow the instructions in the tracker help file?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you did, you can turn channel tags off.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: {chan ch=tracker}[Tracker]: :pup #1 : +6trains Time Since Last Pup(0min 49sec)
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: {chan ch=tracker}
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: now I just need to track down your...actually you know what...Lundfu: would it be too much trouble to zip up your plugins folder and send that to me too?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: this is the part it shows
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Did you alias tracker to echo [Tracker]?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Rather than echo {chan ch=tracker}?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I forgot, it's not an actual channel tag, but your alias.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: Mendaloth did it, but still not working
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: YOU need to change your alias, MUDside.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Type 'alias tracker' and you'll see.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why does it echo?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Mendaloth needs to trigger on something.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but...
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but doesn't the echo happen programmatically?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: not sure how it works, but it says about version, I downloaded the correct one
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: In case you are wondering why a plugin would require a mudside alias: The mudside alias is the cleanest way to create this plugin. That way it will work with all your existing plugins.  If it was a Mushclient alias all the existing plugins that have channels set would need to send to Execute.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: no, it relies on a mudside alias that you have to make
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: plugins that have channels set?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: I actually have a version that adds a purely clientside option. I've been meaning to clean it up and share it at some point.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Mohan: Read what I am saying. Your personal MUDside alias is echo {chan ch=tracker}[Tracker]. You need to change that to echo [Tracker]
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: https://github.com/mendaloth/a-few-random-aard-plugins/wiki/Fake-Tracker-Channel
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: fiendish: some pup reporter has a setting for which channel to report to and the plugin writer used send, not execute
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ahhhh
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Fiendish: Yes. Various trackers report to channels (most common is default to gt or spouse). So the fake tracker basically is a new channel, but you have to echo it to get it to trigger. Rather than editing all your plugins that report to channels, echoing it is the best course of action.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: is this the best spot for updated bast plugins for me to re-download them? https://github.com/endavis/bastmush
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: afaik yes
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you don't want to listen to what I'm telling you that you need to do to fix your problem, Mohan, I give up.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: I am trying to understand what you said Arci
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish comforts Mohan.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't know how I could make it any clearer.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Mohan: I think arcidayne just means 'mohan, type aliases'
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: er
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 'Mohan, type alias'
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because I'm an idiot and aliases isn't a command
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: my plugin knowledge is like -5, in a line from 0 to 10
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It has nothing to do with the plugin and everything to do with your MUDside alias.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh shi.....hey can you alias alias?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As I mentioned before, type 'alias tracker' and you'll see what I mean.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: You can't have 'alias' or 'unalias' in another alias.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can't have 'alias' or 'unalias' in another alias.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What do you see when you type 'alias tracker', Mohan?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: ok i have come to the problem with blowtorch im having and that it freeze
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: tracker             :  echo {chan ch=tracker}[Tracker]:
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay. With Mendaloth's new tracker, you have to change that alias.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: ahhhhhh ya
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: it only happens during fights. it seems that it cant handle the load of commands given 
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: To do that, just change it this way: alias tracker echo @r[@RTracker@r]@w:
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: replaced =), testing
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish comforts Atomic.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Atomic: what version of blowtorch?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Oh no....the blowtorch website is gone
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: someone poke nocilis in the eyeball
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: Arcidayne thank you very much, fixed it
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Mohan!!!  Long Time Fiendish cheers him on.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So, Fiendish. With #sub, is it possible to use a regex form for sub triggers? For instance, if I want to match on just Arci or Arcidayne, I'd do something like (Arci|Arcidayne) (or (Arci(?:dayne)?))? Or is it strictly having to create a sub for both?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne claps at Mohan's actions.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not regex
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lua pattern
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ah, so we can use pattern matching then?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: fiendish any good place to see how to make trigger for dummies?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can do anything you could do with gsub
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but you can't do full regex with gsub
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Awesome. Thank you, Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: sorry... another question... where's my mapper database with all of the custom exits? is that gone now?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you might need to make two, since lua patterns can't do multiple character groups
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Lundfu: MUSHclient/Aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Makes sense. Just wanted to check.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in fact, the exact situation is shown at the bottom of http://lua-users.org/wiki/PatternsTutorial
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: right before it says "Unfortunately"
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: for example I receive this message: You daze a Neptych with a series of hammering blows!
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it may be simple enough to switch from using gsub to using PCRE instead, but I haven't explored it at all
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: and I want to replace: a Neptych for a general mob, so what I need to type there?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: #sub {Neptych} {a general mob} #alone
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: sweet. got it moved over. any other files you think I need to pull from my old Mush to the new one?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: in the body of the trigger?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what trigger?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wait, sorry, Mohan, what are you asking?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mohan rolls on the floor laughing at Long Time Fiendish's antics!
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Lundfu: possibly mushclient_prefs.sqlite
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: for example I receive this message: You daze a Neptych with a series of hammering blows!, so I want to replace the name qra Neptych for a general name
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: for example I receive this message: You daze a Neptych with a series of hammering blows!, so I want to replace the name  Neptych for a general name
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: for example I receive this message: You daze a Neptych with a series of hammering blows!, so I want to replace the name a Neptych for a general name
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: sorry for spamming :(
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: for masaki equalizer v1.3... where would it have saved the set information? 
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Mohan: I guess I'd type in this into the input bar (but keep in mind that I don't really understand why you want this) --->  #sub {Neptych} {general name} #alone
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: no, the opposite side I am looking for it, just need to replace the name of the mob, for example when I am figting with other mob
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: You daze Llodi Vin with a series of hammering blows!, see I receive the same message, but changes the mob name
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: #sub {You daze (.+?) with a series of hammering blows!} {You daze general name with a series of hammering blows!}
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but why do you want to see a different name than what you're fighting?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: I dunno if it is illegal to autocast during a battle, still if I need to start typing the first skill/spell attack
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: help autocast
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Why do you need a target? Casting the spell or just doing the skill will hit your current enemy
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: for example I start a fight, but after first strike I cast first spell/skill, so after that it just cast again another skill/spell until the fight finish, but never autocast from first attack
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: why is complicated for me to put it in another language =P
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: use whatever language you want and arcidayne will translate it for us
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: Spanish?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Using your translator!
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: generally the translator is worse than me =P
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: hablo un poco de espanol, nada mucho, pero yo comprendo!
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: mohan, why can't you set a trigger with a wildcard in the mob's name to send hammering again?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: Morn, because I do not know how :(
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Fiendish: If you like, I can send you the code that shows what language it's being translated from. It's your plugin, just slightly modified. :p
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: for that reason I asked for a place to see and check how to make plugins for dummies
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: er, triggers
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: in the top field, literally just put "You daze * with a series of hammering blows!" and in the send field put "hammering". That's it.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: pull request to github 
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Writing-Triggers -- that's a start.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: Morn, thank you very much I was doing it wrong :(
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, I have to go clean and prepare for bed. I'll pop in later for a few minutes.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smiley Tech: how do i redeem a prize coupon?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: a what coupon?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alainna Tech: are you doing the Amusment park?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if so, this is a weird channel for that question.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smiley Tech: yeah. i got two of em an i went to the prize booth but i cant figure out how to redeem it
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's a question best asked on answer/question channel.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smiley Tech: ohh okay. thanks bud. i figured it out. its 'give man coupon'
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably not give man coupon
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what's a coupon going to do with a man?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: not your buddy, pal
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: afk
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smiley Tech: w.e 'pal' XD
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: south park.. anyone?!!
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: oh nvm, you can be my buddy
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Seriously, edit the registry to turn capslock into a regular shift key
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or get a keymapper and map it to nothing.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: or quit hitting the wrong key :>
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or pry it loose from the keyboard. Or glue it so it can't be pressed.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: I love my laptop too  much to do that :)
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Train yourself to not hit it by taping pin points to the key so that every time you hit it, you stick yourself.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Precisely.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: my capslock key has a light, so it doesn't hurt me much to mishit it.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I think Windows should come with its own keyboard mapper.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: it has one, it's just low lowlevel. Keystrokes are interpreted.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: it uses the same map DOS did, and I bet the same code :)
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: So, when someone sends me code for a trigger expanded out with all the tags and such, how do I get that into my triggers section on mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Copy it, then open up Triggers, then click 'paste'
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Ah, thanks.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Hrm.  Aliases don't seem to like semicolons.  does \n work for executing commands on seperate lines, or do I have to do something else? (the alias is created by a trigger, don't think I can make it create seperate lines in the.)
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: you can have multi-line triggers.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I don't think I explained right.  I have a trigger that creates an alias like, east becomes 'open east
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I don't think I explained right.  I have a trigger that creates an alias like, east becomes 'open east<semicolon>east'.  The body of the alias is being created by a script function so I need to figure out how to either make the script function create a multi-line alias body, or find some character I can sub in for <semicolon> to get it to execute 2 commands instead of one.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Why would you want to create an alias with a trigger like that?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Why not just have the trigger send open e;e
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I'm basically triggering on closed exits so the trigger sets up aliases for directions which have closed doors so that I can use keypad navigation to pass through them without having to enter 'open e' manually first.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Raav5
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Raavus, this became more complex than it should have..
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Fiendish was helping earlier, and got me almost there, but when it creates the alias body as 'open east<semicolon>east' it tries to execute it as one command, not two.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Jesus, just define the aliases in advance if you insist on using an alias for this
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I'm trying to avoid spaming 'open <dir>' for every direction whether it has a door or not.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Personally, I think building this on top of mapper is the best way to go, like Nuanse and I told you
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: At this point, it feels like you're doing it just to show that you could
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Tell me how to get info on which exits are closed and I will happily do that instead, cause I can't find the info.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Which I've mentioned a couple times when we were discussing it earlier.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Except that you don't have to. You need to define your cexits, then mapper will do the rest for you
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Scenario: I want to go to the right, but there is a door. Mapper knows this, and will open it for me
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Then there's the problem of not having cexits for areas I've not been to yet.  I think my way is easier for not having a large time investment in cexit creation before today.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Like someone else mentioned earlier, having cexits is good because your can utilize 'xrt' as well
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: And honestly, you will have to define those cexits at some point
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: What is xrt?  I asked earlier and no one explained.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Oh really, sorry
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: It is like rt (runto), but it is smarter, finding the shortest paths, including the use of portals (that you also have to define)
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: xrt is a command provided by a plugin that converts area names into a room number, then executes mapper goto <room number> to get there taking advantage of portals and such.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: And if I can get this working theoretically I can add functionality to define cexits on the fly as I explore, all while using keypad navigation.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Ah, that is handy.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Was it mapper extender? I forget
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Yeah I think it's WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Is that something seperate from the default client I have to get somewhere?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: It is a separate plugin that you need to add/install to mushclient
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: k, could you point me in the right direction?  Google isn't helpful.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I think nokfah's finger has the link for the latest build
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Birdbrain Metria nods at Tricksy Bamboo.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Or was that only S&D?
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Ah, thanks.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: You're welcome! Just come back here if you need help or have questions about it
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: tech The S&D folder has winklewinkle in there, or seems to.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I will save that tab for later reading.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: And btw, I'm sorry, but I wasn't trying to bum you out on your project
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Not sure if it's coming out like so
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I, too, have my personal scripts that I wrote to make my life easier
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing is Absolute Tech: Thing is so many cexits are not just simple directions. After a handful of morts you will have 90% of the done.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I understand.  My only slight frustration is nobody seems to expect that I've come to this with at least decent, thought-out reasons for why I'm doing it that way.  I'm always open to new info, but every time I ask a specific technical question I get grilled on exactly what and (especially) why I'm doing someting.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Right, and my keyboard nav thing will never work for complex exits.  It's just that I'm mostly dealing with simple ones at this point.
T3/r7/2017-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's because we tend to think in terms of the overall problem being solved.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: A lot of times someone will come in and ask something odd like "How do I put my dick in the electrical socket?" when what they REALLY are asking is "How do I get rid of unwanted body hair?"
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah, me too, I'm just usually several levels deep on a specific project by the time I run into something I can't find on my own.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Morn chortles mischievously at Birdbrain Metria.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I guess I should state my questions more generally and explain some of the context first.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Well, you never know. Sometimes some people get stuff right away
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: In that kind of example I've usually already done a fair amount of reading, figured out how to avoid the obvious pitfalls, etc, I just may lack broader knowledge on a better way to do a thing.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what are you trying to accomplish?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I just try to ask specific questions about things I don't get rather than dropping a problem on the channel and going 'Here, solve this for me.'
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or what's the problem?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Nerds like solving problems, though.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you have to realise that people appear on and off, and may not have seen the full discussion thread (like me)
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: His current problem is: he's trying to make a trigger that creates an alias, but having a semicolon in the alias somehow executes the whole thing, not by part
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: are you sending it to execute or to world
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Generally, I have a trigger matching on closed exits defining aliases so that when I hit a direction if it's a simple door it will open it before sending the direction.  Specifically, I can't figure out how to make the trigger create 'open <dir><semicolon><dir>' as two seperate commands, since aliases don't seem to like <semicolon>.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: because you need to send to execute if you want it to parse semicolons
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Metria: Sure, I love solveing problems, I just kind of expect some level of investigation and/or work to have been done before someone comes to me with a problem. :)
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Predefine all the aliases, then have the trigger call the ones you want as needed?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Oh, I was sendign to world.  Lemme try that.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: The trigger doesn't have a way to know which exit I'm going to go through, so it can't prepend 'open <dir>' to the command.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Oops, that created an infinite loop of trying to go east.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Had to kill the client to stop it, sorry if I missed anything.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you want a trigger that if you walk north, and it's a closed door, it'll attempt to open the door and go north again?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Right.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Actually, that's probably a lot simpler.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Heh, redo aliases for every direction that always start with open
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: And just use those to move around.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that'll make you move 50% slower
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Rather than triggering on exits and creating aliases for closed directions, I could just hook on the 'you can't go that way' message. Assuming it's always the same message.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah, I'm trying to avoid spamming extraneous 'open <dir>' commands.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Redryn, cexits are the proper way to do this, so really any other solution is gonna blow goats
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't recall if there's some data on running into a closed door,  i had some vague recollection there was
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: wish for passdoor
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Morn runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: one way to do it is to link up your movement dirs with the mapper
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: tech How would I go about doign that?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: actually no bad idea
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Ok.. why?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm assuming you will spam a few directions at a go, and the mud might not have fully caught up with what you're entering
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Ah, right.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: yeah, I'm usually navigating around via keypad following a map hunting for campaign targets.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: also the current implementation of mush mapper sends an echo (gagged) after a mapper goto
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: so you're slowed
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it does?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: yes, {done running} or someting
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: good thing i don't have the latest implementation!
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Hm.  Did a little prelim testing on bumping into doors and they don't tell you which direction you tried to go, so I'd have to create an alias for each direction that sets a variable for the most recent direction.. hrm.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't like being slowed (gq too much)
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: wait, why did I say current... mine is like a year or two old
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, you're right
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you need to save your movement dirs as a variable
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you hit a door, you then open the last saved variable and try again
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Right.  That sounds doable.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and you should have a failsafe to only try to open once, if not a locked door will screw you
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: If all door messages are the same, and I suspect they're not.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Sounds like too much overhead
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Good point.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing is Absolute Tech: At your current effort level you could have had half the mud's cexits done by hand :)
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Heh.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Prolly true.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Seriously. Use the hunt trick and 'mapper area' and 'mapper next' commands
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: doubt there'll be much overhead, it's not hard to save the last entered direction
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: honestly what I would do is keep a stack of passdoor pots in my inv and trigger quaff them
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: if I wanted this as bad as you do
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but what if it's nopass?!
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: uhh then I just open it lol
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Not high enough for passdoor yet, otherwise I would.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: I wish there were a pass door wish... oh, but there is one!
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you tend to spam movement dirs, then you may have to implement a stack saving last entered dirs and clearing them off as you move each room
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: What's the cost?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: 5000 qps + adjustment, don't buy it
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah, I was just thinking about that.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Depends on how many wishes you have.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Seems expensive to solve a problem potions or code can solve.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: potion can't solve it at lvl 1!
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you could also purchase the aard passdoor item
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Or level 28.  Thus code.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: belt of passdoor iirc
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Meh.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: but redryn's last serious suggestion is the closest you'll probably ever get
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Where are we at again
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I have one other idea that could dramatically simplify things, so I'll give that a shot first.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or you could just open the doors manually
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah, I've been doing that, it just slows down the buttery keypad nav.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: (Btw you can macro ctrl-numpad dirs to send another command)
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: play the mud? NO.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: That was the other idea.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I'm all about playing the mud, I'd just like to streamline it within my capabilities to do so.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i had ctrl-numpads set up for charging, but i don't use that anymore :(
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: back when crynn trains were a thing
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I have a script for toggling charging :p
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: As a warrior, it is very useful.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Hrm, can't seem to figure out how to add macros, and it doesn't have ctrl+keypad keys already in the list.  Maybe I'm blind.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: on mushclient, game|configure macros...
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: keypad tab, not macros tab
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Derp, thanks.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: that governs the kp also
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: macros and keypad macros are seperate
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: ctrl shift 1 for keypad
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: sorry, Emm is right
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Found it, thanks.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yep, ctrl+keypad does the trick and saves a ton of farting about.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Back to actually playing the mod. 
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Which mod?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: mud*
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: If I have a variable set, is there a way I can use it in commands I'm typing manually?  Trying to set up a targeting thing.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: In mushclient*
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: use mushclient alias
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah, I'm using an alias to set up the variable, just wondering if there's a way I can use it on manual input stuff.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Like 'stun arget' or w/e.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: <at>target.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: What the command to reset aard's gui in mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aisling Tech: For the S&D window? If it's that one, 'xset reset gui' should work, I believe.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: KeyTweak software for windows should be able to remoce CAPS lock easily, its pretty strong
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: o.O
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah but maybe impuritan uses mac os
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or a GNU/linux distro
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I guess mac os have simmilar software.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Ive found out why Linux dont have that many virusses are, is because the userbase is so small. When people create virusses they tend to inflict most damage on Windows because of the huge user library
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sno Queen Defines falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: wow. captain obvious!
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Hey I always thought Linux was immune to virusses :)
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: silly nubble
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle whimpers sadly.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sno Queen Defines comforts A Demonic Cackle.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: that's like saying that nsa or cia would never be hit with a leak..
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: its like saying wood is fireproof
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Hah, (wannacry) virus infected and targeted over 200K corparations, it was a pretty global attack recently. a 22 year old dude fixxed the problem, hes a cryptologist.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle smirks at Odorless Nuanse's saying.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle grins at Sno Queen Defines.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: They has the same old lame advice on tech tv channel, to keep virus programmes uptodate, and not to click on email attachments..
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: the tech tv channel...
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Sattelite TFV
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: thats where the l33t h4xx0rz get their skillz
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nods
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sno Queen Defines slaps A Demonic Cackle.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: virus program updates are getting bigger and bigger
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I guess hackers watch this TV pragrammes for kicks
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: rofl no
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: OK I might be wrong Defines :)
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: might be
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I use Avast, I think its OK.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Can it really use less data though Fiendish? I used 2 meg data (ingoing-outgoing) primarely for aard only after 11hours
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: miss
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Im looking for the chess plugin for MUSH, who devolped it please?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Now that I dont use Mxit anymore for my daily chess habits, I would like to play a game of chess of any masters on here.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Like you can play chess for real?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: that would be doubleplus awesome
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I struggle to have Grand Master rating via FICS, guess i would have learn this game of kings at an early age.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: for real karang
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I think vaguely Blumalice got that plugin, not sure though
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: What's your rating on FICS?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: yes, BluMalice
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: INternational rating for your skill in chess like handicap for gholf
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Free internet chess server
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: LOL I was asking what YOUR rating is
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: My rating is 1950
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: grandmaster is 2100
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Im only a mastr
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: You play in live tournaments?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Live blitz games mainly, and also turned based games that gives you 24 hours to make a move
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: chess.com?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Im on www.playok.com atm for blitz games
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I like their can set from like 4 hours to 7 days
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I play 1 min games mostly
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle is agreeing with that Karang person again...
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: god I don't think fast enough nor have fast enough reflexes for a 1 min blitz
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Its all about instinct and the fel really
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: ever play go?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Love it
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: whats that
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: go is like chess grown up
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sno Queen Defines giggles.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Did you hear that computer beat that 8-Dan from Korea
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Hmm, chess grown up? cant see chess being more grown up
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: thats because you havent played go
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Im also a genius in Othello
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: No rofl
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I think otello is go?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: So many names
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: go is nothing like othello
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Black and white discs
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Never heard of that then Defines
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Othello lays stones inside the squares.  GO are on the edges of squares
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: strategy is completely different
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Tht is some stone age shyt lol
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: joking
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Well that too =D
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I will peek at that game then, ty Defines
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: go is much more sophisticated than chess and othello isnt even a game compared to either heh
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: you'd probably like it, but it can be difficult to learn and sometimes seasoned chess players are frustrated by it getting started
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Main question, what year was it devolped
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: That's a bit unfar chess just has a hell of a lot more possibilities
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: something like 400bc
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Thats the beauty of Chess Karamg/.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: arem just reread
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: really? I think go has more possibilities 
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Go has a ton more possibilies than chess
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: yea I typed a bit cracked out
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Awesome KArang, I totally adore retro games, and like to master it with many hours studying it and mastering its possible strategies
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: 19^2 possilbities
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: nod
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: god damn 2^19
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: opening move alone chess 20 vs. go 361
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: probably first played about 4000 years ago, oldest game still played in its original form according to some
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Wow, i never heard of go. I feel like ive been living under a rock, Quess its more popular under another name
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: no its very popular as go, I'm not aware of any other name for it. it's more of an eastern game so many in the west are unfamiliar
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: but i felt the same way when I learned about it
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Baduk is the korean name
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: If you research from baduk, you'll find a lot of good stuff.  It's very popular in Korea
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: On another subject. Majhong is very popular under asian folks, they gamble on it in taverns while drinkibng tee(wtf).
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Mahhiog really?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: there are lots of computer/console games that teach you to play go and help you understand the beginner strategies
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: and a wonderful anime and manga
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: mangahjong
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Give me 90 days and il be a master in GO, if its a game yall make it out to be
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I'll bet you 20 trivia points
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: anime and manga is my life
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: hahaha I am going to remind you that you said that once you get into it
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle shakes Sno Queen Defines's hand.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: lookup up Hikaru no Go
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: cant be that difficult
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: YOU GON LEARN
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Easy to learn a lifetime to master
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sno Queen Defines points excitedly at Karang!
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: they say 1000 lifetimes
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Well i wont GO and learn just now ::P
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: go is so ez, there's only a big board and 2 types of things to put on it
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nod Karang like chess
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: chess has like different pieces, this only has 1
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Very easy
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you surround stuff it's eaten, and you take turns to put things down
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that's all of the rules
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so ez
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Cackle, did you say that someone made a chess plugin?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Im a true hardcore gamer since 1988, cant see when im a master in chess and othello, that GO will be so hard to master
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: queens knight to j 22
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Yup Fiend pls
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sno Queen Defines rolls on the floor laughing at A Demonic Cackle's antics!
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: fascinating
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: I can't wait for you to get into it
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Thats sounds like Othello aka reversi Redryn...
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle nods at Sno Queen Defines.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: a little like that
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I so want to make a chess plugin now.  But I'm not in the mood to put all this time in. And then find the plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Yup Fiendish, Blumalice or what his face releases a plugin that a chess game for mush
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Vost and Gorsk would know
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: www.dropbox.com/s/umman3wawt0wqy3/Masaki%20Chess.rar?dl=0
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle offers Karang some big girl panties, since he didn't buy before going (OPK)!!
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: wrong socail...
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle gives Karang a nod, saying, "OK".
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Ty hmm Redryn
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: dont dead download inside
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sno Queen Defines looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Me and you are both masters in chess ok, so how to find weak points, play numerous games and test their openings, Openings are not thaat important aswell as midgame, the trick is to not let your oppenent know waht your true intentions are. At endgame you release this bomb shell and take tthe innatiative to pounce on them and take the last few pices
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Coman sense
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: That said, if you dont have solid openings, and midgame principals (like piece value), you dont stand a chance for endgame
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: im seriously pondering to buy another 24inch monitor for the purpose to view aard, one 40 inch screen is to small to see all
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient doesn't really do multiple screens well
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but you could put all your miniwindows on it
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: sounds like your resolution is a touch low
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Im torn. I can buy a cheapie vibration wifi controller 12 button for windows. (wanna use this primarely for snes and ps1+ps2 games etc.). The thinf that botherts me are as follows. the battery will last not that long duer to vibrating..... So must i but a wired gaming controller for windows>?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I dont trust anything cordless
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth straps on his aluminum foil hat and screams, 'The CIA is everywhere!  Protect yourself!'
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Heh Menda share your knowledge
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Easy question, go wireless gaming controller for windows or opt for wired gaming pad
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: define "not that long", because realistically you only need it to last for the duration of 2 sessions and you'll be good for the rated lifetime of the battery before it gets to 50% capacity
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: My main window just went blank
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: did you expect that to happen?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: nothing nada, just a wolf back grounf wtf
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what were you doing at the time?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why am I asking these questions?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: take off those sunglasses. you've been drinking too much of that smirnoff ripoff 
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: im reclinging on my lazyboy puffing a cigar
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virigoth Tech: Try connecting with SSH
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Im dead seroius, im taking the initaitive to lean forward and type,
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: My main MUSH screan went all black for 5 seconds
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: good
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and then what happened?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: that is mush saying you've had enough
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: what the fk is good about that
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: fiendish
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: can you see text now?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: After that 5 second back screen (with only wolf background) it re appeared like nothing happhend
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: blank*
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so it sounds like there's not actually any problem and everything is working fine?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: nod after 5 seconds all tects are back
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: my screen does that every now and then when the machine is under heavy load
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but i am running ubuntu of a usb stick ... so go figure
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: MY main Mush screen whent black aka black for 5 seconds
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: your computer has not been sprayed with compressed air in a while. it overheated and froze in mid-screenbuild
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Shindo is the only person that is talking sense
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: then you're not drunk enough
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: look
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: All I know is that you're telling me that right now you look at your screen and it looks fine.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: How do I know you didn't hallucinate it?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: im not on LSD
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: which would be normal for cackle
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: dude, im telling you the god honest truth now
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: as far as you know
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: main window goes blank for a time to time but it's because computer is overused and usually 100% so mush comes next to system problems
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's exactly what a person would say after a hallucination
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: So hard to tell people online what happeing
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: maybe he's part of a machine and think he sees what he sees
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: NOOOOOOOO, My freaking new pc MUsh went dead black for 5 seconds and reapeared, I guess you dont know what the cause, so your trolling noe shit
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: Cackle the good news is that you were not halucinating and that's also the bad news
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: of course I don't know the cause, and of course I'm trolling you now
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish laughs out loud at Sheriff Shindo.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it actually could be your machine. you have 75 games in it that each have their own drain for system
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but you can't expcet me to fix a problem that you aren't having
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and you just told me that right now there's no problem
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Im having a difficukt time to tell what sarcasm and the truth like Shedon in Big Bang Therory. Its my problem.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's cuz you're hallucinating
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Well duh, after 5 seconds of a blacnk screen it repaired itself, so how do you thiink you can fix it
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: while it happens, it's always the computer that freezes in middle of drawing the screen
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: maybe the human suddenly moved to very fast that it just seemed the screem was blank for 5 seconds but in fact is was just between 2 frames
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I got 75 games on my PC, that doesnt tell shyt about process running
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: sorry for vulgar expression
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Its a memory bug i think
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: 75 different games building 75 different system things into memory.. ofcourse they wont :P
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nuanse you are so cure :)
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: cute
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I think im rubbing of in the bad way on yall.I dont wont to seem know it all, but my mush main screen went dark black for 5 seconds the re apreadrd. this is nor\ atroll
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: keep it in your pants
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I know. It happend to me too. But just for a second or so
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: i happy to hear Aya
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: your "screen" went black.. sounds soooo sexy 
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Then im NOT HULIICANATIng
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I am sexy nuanse
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sheets of empty canvas
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: hallucinating
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it happens when your computer goes into overdrive and cant handle things. it's your computer. how many times I have to say this?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Im having a very hard time to tell whos a troll
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Azurite smells good
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: if you have to question it, just pitch it
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: wtf im a windows pro. my hard drive is defragged and malware clean
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: and there lies your problem.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: when you bought your computer it might have been best. now? hell 15 minutes ago your computer was trash compared to others :P
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: yiu are joking
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: sadly. no
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I never said my PC is the best hardware wise
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: but i can kick yall ass in gaming benchmarks
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you can beat me in benchmarks. but my mush doesnt have 5 sec lag ;)
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Number 1, you are not a hardcore gamer like me, Number2 you cant tweak games gpu settings wise even if your life was depented on it
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok ok ok
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Cackle: were you doing anything when it happened?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean was MUSHclient doing anything?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I did nothing Fiend, just idking
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: one thing we know is that it mush wasnt showing anything in screen :)
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: actually that's not what we know
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think we know that it was showing the wolf background
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Mush went black for 5 seconds, then reapeareed, how hard is that toi understand
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think the problem is that you keep saying black, but you said it had the wolf background
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so not actually black, but maybe just no text?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: easy for me. Happens to me on a somewhat regular basis but just for a second or so
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: By black i mean, the wolf logo was onlt hrere
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what about the grey back-background?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: no text in main screen, nothing but the black screen with semi transparent wolf logo for 5 seconds
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yep ans all other windows still show text and the grey back-back ground also still there
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but you mean _not_ a black screen because it had the wolf logo
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: just without any text
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what about miniwindows?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: all the other windows like com log etc showed text like normal
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: only main window showd a formatted screen with default wolf logo.......
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't think I've ever seen this happen
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm trying to think of what might cause it
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: ty
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it has nothing to do woth the latest updates.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantik Tech: Does it happen after you have been playing for a long time?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: i can have a to now?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: tp
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's good to know. ayasinda do you have a sense of when it started happening? or has it just always been like this?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: im playing on this mush fir 13 hours now
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: just to get people off topic, anyone know a decent mobo either ATX or ATX-E? want to slowly upgrade my computer, but need a new mobo before i can do that
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: 8 gig dd3r 3 ram
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: get something compatible with ryzen!
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantik Tech: I've seen other programs in the past (on older hardware) have problems with a large text buffer that builds up over time.  It made the text on the screen blank out and come back.  Not on MUSH.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Xantik: now that's fascinating
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: yes because ill be able to afford a ryzen =/
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I dont think its a RAm issue since i got 8 gig pagefile and I7 cpu
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Fiendisch I'm having this problem for at least a year now
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Hadar they're good price
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ayasinda: Alt+5 and try lowering "Number of lines in output" from 9999 to...I don't know...half that?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (please)
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Since Fiendish cant verify my bug, i guess the tp is out the window.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ayasinda please accept deliveries
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: cackle, of course you do
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: It was still at 9999. Made it 4000. Gonna see what happens. It's not a problem that hapens like, everu day or so
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: ty
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah no problem
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: that still what ... 300-500$ i dont have for a processor atm
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: quick question for Fiendish now that he is here... when do you plan to make different use of portals for chaos and normal portals? huge improvement place there.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: exercise left to the user
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: never mind ayasinda, you don't need to accept deliveries anymore
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: fiendish I have a bug report, but it's bast related, do you take those too? 
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes but they don't qualify for the bounty
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: doesn't mean I wont try to help
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: I don't need the bounty :) eq_miniwin fails with help race.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: error message?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: e.g. help wolf: Trigger function "help_redirect" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: sometimes it will throw a dump, lemme try and grab it
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes. tell me the prevoius error
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I will always need that kind of information
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: Fiendish: https://gist.github.com/abutbul/f7a7874ec639d2777f31c29d6333177d
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Fiendish - My Cpu is at 4% and Ran is at 13 % all day long averagly if that helps
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what version of bast's plugins, Nevela?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: 2097, same as yesterday. looks like conversion to a undefined color name :)
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: this is my current build ... ish: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Kbkxd6
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: one sec. let me load that plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: no need for 1000w psu, and why amd (cringe) and gfx card kinda dated
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nevela points excitedly at Useful Hadar!
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I feel bad to take a Tp from you, keep it Fien\d
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: because im very very poor, and it worked decently when i made it 2 years ago
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: You cant confirm it
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you just said you experience a problem that someone else confirmed to me legit happens
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: what ever works :)
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: right, now where was i...
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: at home :)
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ooh
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: right
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: help race
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: cooool
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Long Time Fiendish!!!  Nevela cheers him on.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: blank black main screen
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Cackle: again?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: i dont see a tp
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can't see it because your screen is blank, but it's there
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: really, i dont want a tp, but if you ask so nicely
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I have the greatest resprect for Fiendush, and he can vouch fot this publicly. I just feel bad to ask again and again about this black blank main screen with only wolf logo that lasts for 5 seconds. WTF i feel like an alien that this only happened to me, but true as God it happned, This is not a failed troll attempt mind you, thats childish. Im here to help new people and ask legot questions, sorry i wont bring up this matter again, good mudding.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's fine. just tell me if it keeps happening
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I will .
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I will thank you.
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Nevela this is a weird one
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: you stick with me I'll prolly find more :)
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Stick with me and ill make you famous
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ahah
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it looks like it happens on any help file that doesn't have a ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- before the closing help tag
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: fiendish so it's a reasonable assumption by the plugin. I suspect most of the help files do have this buffer line
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah except for the ones that happen during login
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (race is shown in player creation, motd shows at connect)
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I bet you anything it also happens with help class
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh look at that. I'm so right
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: mmmm well do you think bast will fix it? does he even maintain these?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I bet if I find the fix he'd merge it
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'll need to understand why it's looking for those lines first though
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: maybe something he used before help tags were added mudside...
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: 1.7 meg data usage over 14 hours of mudding, not to bad
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: anyone good with adobe programs? i have a giant PDF file that I want to make a prezi-style animated presentation out of... basically zoom into a section of the giant PDF and slide around
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: not sure the best way to go about it
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why pdf?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: thats just what i have
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: i make stuff in illustrator, can be anything
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what end result file format are you hoping for?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: want to make a movie out of it
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: add a voiceover, etc
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: perfect
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you want the ken burns effect
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: haha
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you google "ken burns effect" you'll get all the results
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: checking it out now
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: thanks man, this is great
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also called "pan and scan"
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: anyone running bliwtorch on mobile?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: anyone at all know anything about playing on mobe using blowtkrch?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanij Tech: Anyway to setup a trigger or something in Mushclient to play a sound or something when double XP comes on? :x
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yes and it's pretty easy but I don't have the patterns
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: ok what did I do to remove all color, or better what do I do to get it back?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Did you type 'color'?
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: ansi
T3/r7/2017-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: color thats it Thank you Metria
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish stretches luxuriously. Kinda makes you want to, doesn't it?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nacko Tech: is it possible to download maps?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that question doesn't not contain enough information to be answered
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: does not
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sure it is possible to download maps! I mean more specific info about what client, and if they just mean the image files that many store maps in, or something your client mapper can read and process...
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nacko Tech: like i use the mushclient and i just found out that (mapper find) will list all rooms with that name and u can click it and it will autorun to it
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just explore and mapper will populate itself
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nacko Tech: yes something that my client can read so i wont have to go the the room myself but it will be on file so i can autorun
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nacko Tech: k thanks for the help then
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: cool
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: btw. i complained about a ssd disappearing the other day on tech, no one answered. 2 days later i saw that ssds sometimes do that. on a youtube video. never ever heard about that before and have watched thousands of them:)
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: just a random comment in a vid
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: people sell fully functional ssds on ebay as "broken" for 5.-
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes, there's a certain error in old-ish samsung ssds that would cause them to look like they died
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i have intels
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i think it was the same thing exactly
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this is not a general problem with ssds though
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's just that ssd firmwares tend to be rather complex because of the need for wear-leveling
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: mine needed to plug from the wall for a bit
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: nothing more
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: of course the problem with buying broken ssds on ebay is that they might actually be broken
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: thats sadly true:P
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i wonder if this would be a business: a cool design buttons, sliders, rollers etc for generic purpose. packed in a mystery box, 5, 10, 20 in a pack.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: so. a big red nuclear button would be pretty rare
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: people just use the Staples button for their nuclear button :-)
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: because keyboards are so. damn. dull
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: hm:)
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, you meant keycaps?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: nu. literal buttons
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh OK, that's what I thought, but you confused me with the dull keyboard comment
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i also would like to sell that frankenstein's lever.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: that would launch all my practice apps with one pull
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: my case
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maeshi Tech: does anyone have experience with MAG in mudlet 3.1?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I gave up on Mudlet
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i tried that when i first came to aard and it was terrible. i just opted for Wine + Mush 
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Fiendish embarassed me up out of my VMs and got me running MUSH on my Windows host
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if mudlet had been made a few years earlier it might have made more of an impact, but script ecosystem just matters more than whatever you get from cross platform binaries
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish laughs out loud at Oak Tender Arnica.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: using mush in a vm works fine, but starting up a vm instead of using wine is such a hassle
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now if only someone would embarass Fiendish into running MUSH on a Windows host }:>
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: hahahaha
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think only a dozen or so script bugs happened because of inconsistent behavior between wine and windows. that's pretty good
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well this is dumb...
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you ask htop to sort on the RD_CHAR (bytes read) column, it sorts alphabetically.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: narf
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so you get something completely useless
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 984 comes before 10000000
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and also before 80
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: dumb dumb dumb
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hey, would it be possible with the installer you use, to give initial options of "install", "revert", and "cancel"...then have the "install" do "if MUSHclient\backups\MUSHclient-old exists, delete everything in it, then copy everything but backups folder into that folder, then install new stuff"...and have "revert" do "copy everything from backups\MUSHclient-old into MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've been thinking about it
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the answer is I don't know
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but maybe
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IMO that was the elegance of the "no installer/upgrader" system...you just unzip somewhere else and everything original is still there...but of course then it relies on the user to copy rather than move, etc.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the user is still able to make a backup
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nothing stops them
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Most won't, though.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, but the installer-type users are, well, less likely ;-)
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Which is dumb.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: At the very least, the installer could probably copy everything into a MUSHClient-old folder (much like Windows does when it upgrades).
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I obviously prefer that users not revert to old versions, but I recognize the problem of someone, for instance, overwriting a customized version of one of my plugins without realizing that the change they made 4 years ago was unofficial
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Duh. Please put in install instructions a brief note - rename your current Aard dir to something else.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That doesn't really work.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'd rather not have to rely on someone actually reading something
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You'd want to copy it to a different location, not rename it.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's bad enough that the installer includes text that tries to warn users away from installing to Program Files
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which I'm sure noone reads
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at least that FAQ has become less FA
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't install to Program Files myself. C:\MUSHClient is perfectly fine.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Except Peter
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: luckily...that was pretty huge back when Vista/7 came out
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That damned Peter, always being the exception.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think I missed a joke because I don't know who peter is
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Neither do I, but I can still roll with it.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Peter Noone, Herman and the Hermits, you are too young
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, my kids had a teacher, Mr Brown...whenever I saw him out with his wife, their some plays in my head
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: song*
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: love Herman and the Hermits
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: and he did have such a lovely daughter
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Noone has derailed a tech convo like this before
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm only sort of here
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm trying to write a parser for mercurial bundles
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: does anyone run blowtorch on.mobile?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: where else would you run it?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: haha does anyone know what variable id use if i wanted to set a macro button to kill random mobs in an area like in verume it has jelly fish misquitos etc. i have macro buttons set but i gotta keep going in and changing the mob name
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: auto killing random mobs is kinda illegal. Keep typing the name
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: its not auto.killing im sitting there pushing the butgon
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: its called a wild card or something in.mushclient
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's probably not illegal, but imo it should be
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: hmm pressing a button that start a fight with a random mob sounds pretty illegal to me
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: its not because im not boting i juat wanna know the valie so i dont have to kewp.editing my macros
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: kinda makes aoe spells useless
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ayasinda: I think it would fall into the same category as SnD. People don't get nuked for using it, but Lasher definitely doesn't like it.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: not sure. In snd you click the name of the mob you like to kill. ( and yes I hate that plugint too). But maybe you are correct.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah but you don't have to read the name and know what it says
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you could just be clicking, and just clicking is kinda the same as just pressing
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: makes sense
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: omg forget i asked.... im the one whi haz to push the button else wize my charecter doesent do qnything
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: don't mind us
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure what you're asking for is technically completely legal
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: alright. i just tbought jd ask becauze it is so annoying to sit there there and in some cases edit my macro every room 
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: kinda weird to edit a macro for each room
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you're in verume you should brandish needles
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: well i have a macro.on.my weaken spell and attack spell
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: thats it thats all i have buttons for
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: why not make mudside aliasses?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: macros  are faster than aliases
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: whats an alias?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: help alias
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: kina like a macro but harder to type
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: across the board faster, or just for certain tasks?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ontuct: fewer keypresses
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I thought of it immediately after asking.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: an botfing is illegal
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: im using the blue buttons in the corner of.my screen
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: because thats what theyre tere for
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: literally thats all it does is make me have to type less and thats convenient because im trying to catch my friend so we can level
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: wasn't there a auto consider every time you moved into a room, and you click the mobname in the small window, and you attack the mob?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: not that im aware of
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i think there is one out there.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: yea im looking to just use the blue buttons blowtorch gives me
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dontavius: blowtorch doesn't actually have variables (in the non-beta version), but you can fake it by using blowtorch aliases...
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: i have no clue how to use aliases
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: or how they work
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: and im trying to stay in legal boundaries
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the blowtorch site is currently down...here's a link to a cached page telling you how to change a targetting alias: http://abelinc.me/btspecual
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: an alias for example would turn IMMO to cast immolate... they are built into aard gameside, so I assume aliases are legal.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "aliases" are legal, but so are scripts...legality isn't based on what something "is", but on what it does...
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and being at the screen mashing keys doesn't mean "is not botting"
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: you can come up with illegal aliases also.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: doesnt matter ingame or not
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Trying to think of of one you that'd be illegal that would be mudside alias though....
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Maybe spamming too many channels :P
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: or just filled up with who imm
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, hwua, you should make a pet with a name starting with hwua but different after that ;-)
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: so wait my little blye buttons are illegal?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dont: blue buttons are legal, but you can make blue buttons which are illegal...
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the fact that it's a blue button has nothing to do with legality
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: the policy helps are worth a quick read
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: it can be use to say cast a spell. so you initiate with k mob and then press the button to cast the spell on the mob you are engaged with
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: i have two one cast a weaken spell on mob the other casts an attack spell all they do is make it so i dont have to type a whole lot
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: They really are Ontuct, all of em!
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't bother with the weaken spell, and have the attack one just call an in-game alias for your attack which you can change quickly as your attacks change
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: so my bottons are wrong or illegal?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: example of illegal alias.. not a smart one but heck: some places have mobs that start with one letter. say "s". it'd be illegal to have alias "ns" to do "n;kill s"
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: that checkname is about nameing a player
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: that comment was aimed at Sivak not your question.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: ahhh
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: as to your cast weaken, it is just a wasted step, your battle isbn't typically long enough to bother.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dontavius Tech: ok weaken spell gone bye bye
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I'm curious, which client is popular with Aardwolf players?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: type clients
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: mush
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: Mush Client
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: the one from the site
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but yes, mush
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: finger fiendish for url
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Ok.  That's handy, is it easy to settup macros, scripts, triggers and such on MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Heh, yeah, can quite say MUSH is the most popular client, considering that the closest rival is 151 users away.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You get a lot of support from MUSH, too, as users here are generally available to help.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Additionally, there are hordes of scripts out there to make MUDding easier.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: and developer of the aardwolf expansion is actively maintaining and debugging...
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not to mention, thanks to Fiendish and company, it comes with a pretty nice setup already.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Nevela.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nevela gives a thumbs-up to Arcidayne.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Is there any widely accepted and superior configs that are downloaded with MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, stock Aardmush is pretty much configured for you.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Ok.  Is the client missing anything obvious?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And Bast has a lot of scripts that will configure options for you, too, if needed.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not really.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I suppose it depends on what you mean by "obvious"
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: really handy, indespensible triggers, mostly?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So, not really, no. As you play through Aardwolf, though, you may find yourself needing a trigger, and that's what most people will be here to help you with.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As a guide, there's already a list of general MUD messages that people trigger off of already on Aard's wiki page (http://wiki.aardwolf.com, and I think it's under General -> Mud Messages)
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Ok. Thanks.  Pretty cool.  I'm not used to having an already, well-configured client to run with upon introduction to a new MUD.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Fiendish is always adding something to it, too, or trying to find ways to make it better.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: One of his most recent additions is translating foreign languages on your flist.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, friend list, if you're not accustomed to our lingo yet.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: You mean like an automatic google translate?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's not 100%, obviously, but it does a pretty good job.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I did a slight modification to it, but this is the general output: "Hola, mi amigo!" ---- translates from Spanish
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Whoops: I did a slight modification to it, but this is the general output: "Hola, mi amigo!" ---- translates from Spanish; Castilian to ---> "Hello my friend!"
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Are there many players online usually, at a time?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: type count
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There's quite a few online, but not all are active.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Or maybe better, type online
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Even better, Ayasinda: online 2 :p
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I'm here, that's all that matters
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to NotGod Pleiades.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Ok, my brain is melting because the colors and font is confusing.  I have to get this fixed.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can change colors on channels using colorset.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or if something is too dark for you, you can use MUSH's ANSI colors screen to change how you want colors to look.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: how do I change the font?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: In MUSH? Alt+5, change the output.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: just be sure to use a fixed-width font, otherwise things won't work out well for you aesthetically
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: font recommendation?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I like Courier New
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I use Monoid myself.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i use deja vu sans mono for my output. and lucida console for my chat
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: actually I'm using Courier, not Courier new o:
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: lucida console
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: go with the font Aard is developed in, you will bond with the mud.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Raded is a liar!
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: lies Lasher lies
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: why would I lie about the font I use ffs?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: heh. lucida console does support utf-8 for those sexy lines
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And enters Lasher, whom you should never cross.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I'm male, I don't lie
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I don't have some of these fonts.  I'm testing Lucida Console, but it looks a bit blocky.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I used to use it and aard refused to bond with me :(
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: Aard is out of your league, I was talking to him.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Monoid and Deja Vu are free to download. Courier New should come stock with any PC.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel sniffs sadly.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: https://dejavu-fonts.github.io/
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: how do I change the font in just my comm log? I need the comm log font size to be larger.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: the sans is just great
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: right click, change font
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Screw this, I'm going to use Comic Sans.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: you will use whatever Abelinc tells you to use
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa acks at Arcidayne!
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Also, thank you, Dash. I'd been trying for a while to remember this font, but wound up with Monoid because it was similar enough.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I always use Courier or Courier New because they're the monospace fonts I've always used. and I hate change.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: how do I save my profile configurations, when I restarted all the windows were reconfigured.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmm, what specific windows are you talking about? Or what changes did you make?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Mapper, Comm Logs, and Stats
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Font changes?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: click the save button in mushclient before closing.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: save the world file, rather. it forces snapshots of plugins that support that(which those do)
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nick has an auto_save plugin that saves every 3 minutes if it detects something changed. The plugins, however, should save automatically.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Yeah, unfortunately the pluggins did not save automatically this time
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'd mention that to Fiendish, as plugins should save by themselves.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Found a font I like:  Bitstream Vera Sans Mono
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: it's like the consol one, but less squished and square
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I also had to recheck, "auto repeat"
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I sued that for a while, too.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Used, not sued...
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I figured.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: How do I remove the health prompt, since I already have a perfectly feasible one from my input?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: it's a pluggin, you need to remove it. file. pluggins. find and remove.  
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: No, I meant the other prompt, not the pluggin.  The text prompt
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: help prompt 
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: great, thanks
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I can't seem to adjust the wrap width, it's wrapping at about half my screen width and wasting alot of room.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Wilmer: are you using the aardwolf mushclient package?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: whois wilmer
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hahaahahaha oops
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: what classes are popular, and fun?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: calculus
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: uhh...
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: rhetoric
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: chemistry? ooh that's a good one
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you get to blow things up
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i hated chem so much
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: newbie channel may be best for those type of questions, but when you're just starting out, they're all about the same.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: womens study.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I took Marriage and family at my old college
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I did my best to avoid marriage and family in college.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: It was an ignorant and demeaning classroom.  The professor used to do communal living, whole class had a strange vibe.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Not sure I understand.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: communal living is pretty great
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: me neither, what's up with Aylor city, like every door is closed.  I've never played a MUD where people actually closed doors.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: doors close by themselves because aylor is haunted
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: they close when the area resets
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: haha, haunted aylor. Nice.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I remember why I never played any other MUDs outside of the Iron Realms MUDs it's because learning a new MUD is annoyingly difficult
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: we have a school
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i wouldn't mind learning but there is the time issue
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: up from recall
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it kinda teaches you everything
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I'm trying to do that now.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: i wouldn't mind learning but aard is better
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Aard has more players, not sure it's better.  I'm so looking forward to StarMourn
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: matter of taste
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Achaea is their most populated server, and it is mostly old timers addicted to RP.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: The playerbase is the problem with their games, not the games themselves
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what a weird idea
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the playerbase is the entire point of a mud. Aardwolf is a community of players.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: i dislike the curing system of achaea. too automated
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Combat is hard in MUDs in my experience, in general.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Yeah, I agree that MUDs are about community, but when the community is small and stagnant it gets old real fast.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so wilmer, I heard earlier you were having a line wrapping issue. still happening or fixed now?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: So, I figured out the line wrapping for some issues, but room desc, still get cropped
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: any chance you could show me a screenshot of what it looks like?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I am the...uhh...resident mushclient knowitall 
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (it's also possible that you're just not used to how Aardwolf room descriptions are always wrapped at 80 characters)
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: https://postimg.org/image/l8dd3ow6b/
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what you are seeing is completely normal
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's just how room descs work here
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Hmm, okay.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: desc cap at 80 letters if I remember correctly
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: You know I've never really thought about it much.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I imagine it must look funny coming from a game that doesn't do that.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: what is the color <option> for desc?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: you can make the window smaller if you like. drag the white triangle at the bottom right tot he edge of the desc. it frees up room for other windows
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know if there is one for the room descriptions. You want them to not be white?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I'm a minimalist
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Yeah, I want them to be real white, not grey
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: it's a little tough on the eyes.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: try DefaultChan?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: have you tried colorset brights?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: didn't say all greys should become white
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: defaultchan seems to be the wrong answer
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: though I don't know what it's the right answer for!
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's possible that if you want room descriptions to be bright white instead of dim white you'll have to change the color for dim white to be brighter
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Alt+6 will take you to the ANSI color configuration screen
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Yeah, that looks so much better, at least for now it'll be fine, if I discover I need greys for something I can figure that out later
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well if you want you'll still be able to use greys on channels using x256 codes
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (color 256)
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: is there an easy way to make sw ne se nw work instead of having to type " n space e "
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hahaha but aardwolf doesn't sw ne se and nw exits
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: really...
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: aardwolf is n s e w u d portals and custom commands
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: you can use the numpad to walk using 8 4 6 and 2 though
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can see an example of a custom exit 4s from recall
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but no diagonals
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: hmm, interesting.  
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Is there a way to change the color of Players in my room?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: help colorset
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I didn't see an option for it
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: Colorset players
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Ok, almost forgot to ask this, has anyone created an plugin that copies npcs/items into a window?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: finger bast he has a set of miniwin scripts
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: does anyone use proxymud?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: what does it do
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its a proxy program between client and mud
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: uhh...yeah someone does...hold on
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: uhhhh
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: uhhhh
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NotGod Pleiades peers intently at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: try tussin
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hey, Fiendish, not sure if Wilmer brought it up, but he changed the font on mapper, chat, and stat windows, restarted MUSH, and the changes didn't stick. I'd have imagined they would already save automatically, but maybe I'm wrong?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think some settings don't save if you don't Ctrl+S. It's probably dumb and I should change it. Let me see if it's the case for mapper font
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish \\\\\\
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: :\\\\\
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: my mapper font stayed set :\
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: where did wilmer save his mushclient to?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's not in program file is it?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No idea, hadn't thought to ask that.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He's linkdead now, but will ask if I see him before you do.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: How do you remove notes from mapper in Mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You right click the box and edit.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: mapper addnote, then clear the note to delete it.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: When you say clear, what do you mean extactly?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: it's automatically highlighted, so just hit delete and enter.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Okay I'm doing something obviously wrong.  So I type mapper notes.  Then ...what? It's not highlighting and I'm assuming in wrong spot
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I didn't say mapper notes
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I said type mapper addnote
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You have to be in the room with the note for that, though.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Yep It was something obvious.  Thank you~
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what's a good way to assign weights to various options and then randomly choose one of those options in lua?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmm. Good question.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i thought of having a table and inserting each option X amount of times (based on how much weight i want to give), then randomly choosing from the table, but that seems cumbersome
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's precisely what I was thinking.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: better to do a rand between 1 and 100 or whatever and then if else if or case
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: issue is the options won't be constant, so i may have A , B , C and D, but next time only A B or C
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so if they were all 25% at first, it would change to 33%
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: wouldn't be difficult if they were equal chance, but want them weighted too
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: you can do it with variables for the weights, but then you have to set the variables when you call the script
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: im afraid i would need to know more about what you are trying to do to get any more specific
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so say i have A=10, B=15, C=20, D=25
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: at any given point in time not all will be valid picks, so it might be A, C, D
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: are you setting these with a trigger or with a macro or what?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: then i want to choose between those 3 (or whatever) options based on weight, so it would be 55 (10/20/25)
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: a lua function
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the weights can be set up front
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I mean you can create a function that takes pairs of arguments and then does a random between 1 and (sum of the numerical arguments)
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: yeah are the weights/number of inputs going to change?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: and if it is less than (first numerical) pick (first alphabetical), else if it is less than sum of (first and second numerical) pick (second alphabetical)
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: weights won't change, number of inputs will change but i know the full pool
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: if the weights truly won't change then you can put the full table into the function and then have the function just take the alphabetical as inputs
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Redryn: Might this be what you're looking for? https://github.com/kennyledet/Algorithm-Implementations/blob/master/Weighted_Random_Distribution/Lua/Yonaba/weighted_random.lua
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or perhaps even better: https://scriptinghelpers.org/questions/11242/how-to-make-a-weighted-selection
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so like if A always has 10 chances if it is in the mix, and B always has 20 chances, and C always has 40 chances, then you can have a function where you can pick A B C and get a random between 1 and 70, or pick A B and get random between 1 and 30 or pick B C and get one between 1 and 60
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: how would i hard-code the if/else logic if i don't know how many options there are?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: what are the function parameters
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: arcid - the first link looks like the repeated inserts into a table?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, that's why I went with the second link as a better option.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the second link doesn't have the option of removing options?
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can easily add that, though.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: options[choice] = nil
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or whatever you need to do.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: true
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ok i think that works, thanks
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: How do I capture a line of text to a variable In Mushclient? 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: What is this, I updraded to Mush 1919 yesterday, and this aslt work just fine. Now today i get allot of errors even before I entered password and name. ([WARNING] C:\Games\Stronger\worlds\Aardwolf.mcl)
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: i also had that yesterday. had to load all my plugins again
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: OK ty.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: How to turn off Aardwolf MUSHclient Package Update Checker in 1919
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: turn off the plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Wow smart, thanks Nuanse.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I tried disabling it also removing it, it restores itself every time. (Plugin 'aard_package_update_checker' not installed. Attempting to install it...
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Success!*
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Well im going to try and delete it now in tis folder
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Hah got it. Plugin 'aard_package_update_checker' not installed. Please download and install it.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: just deleted in worlds/plugins folder. I will keep that plugin in my recycle bin till i can restore it and toggle it not to spam me with updarte checks
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: But now with the deleted autochecker plugin from my hard drive worlds/plugins folder, I get greeted by a wall of red text saying it cant find the plugin, spammy as hell
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so don't do that
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: or do it. no reason why you couldnt stop autochecking update from working.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish rolls his eyes.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: "so don't do it" ... how about you tell how to turn it off then. not everyone wants to check updates everytime they start playing. or even want to update if it works. hell. win Xp is still out there :D
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: win xp is great!
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Baurus grins evilly.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: some businesses still use commodore64 so.. 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: back to 1825, Auto update checking should not be inforced on me, cant even disbale plugin or remove it from plygin page, it erstores itself, grrr
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sorry, I went to make some coffee. I'm back now
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: how about this...
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: tell me which part of the checking bothers you and then maybe we can brainstorm some ways to fix that. because I'm not that interested in disabling the check, but I am open to changing how it displays the information.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I think it just needs opt-out. can be on for start, but you can turn it off if you dont feel to autochecking everytime
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: What if im Stronger is agreeing with that Odorless Nuanse person again...
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so if you tell me what is actually bothering you, then hopefully we can figure something out
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I know people who log in for 15 minutes several times a day. kinda pointless for them to check update everytime.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: I want to diable auto update checking
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: I also log in plenty times a day on my alts, its a very annoying message
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's irrelevant. first, the check itself happens in a background thread so it doesn't delay login. second, the available updates dialog box has a button that ignores the current update and will not notify you again until a new version is out
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: at least should not
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just add another button: disable autocheck
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: and thats it. everyone is happy :D
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no, because right now nothing you've said indicates any problem with the checking. If you have a real problem, please tell me what it is.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: what if you only have a single threaded cpu?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's not how cpus work, CoffeeBreak
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: it would still be allotted time in the scheduler?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: CoffeeBreak: the system manages context for you a billion times a second. MUSHclient spends most of its time doing nothing.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when you tell me that you're sensitive to time delays measured in nanoseconds or single digit milliseconds then I'll pay for the medical bills
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and send flowers every day 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: well some people live with ...if it's not broken...
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: haha, but if it can be measured it exists or smth :)
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish comforts CoffeeBreak.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Nuanse + Stronger: If you have a problem with the way that the update checker displays information, if you think it gets in your way, if you would like to be notified differently or on a different schedule, that's all fine. Tell me the details.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: still on r1580. it has no forced autoupdate checkers or anything. working just fine :)
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's great. I hope none of the bugs in 1580 ever impact you
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: But if you're fixing it, they'd have to update, which would solve the problem anyway?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: CoffeeBreak: naturally
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if it works...:D
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: I'm just scared to update, updates tend to break stuff
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: for example with my latest samsung s7 updated, I can no longer steam golf on my phone :(
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: oh live installer didnt break anything. so why worry about updates :)
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Updating does sometimes cause temporary discomfort, CoffeeBreak. Luckily for all of you I'm still here and I help people who have problems.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: you have to realise fiendish actualy uses his own product. the fix would be quick. unlike big componies like samsung who all  have nokia phones
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CoffeeBreak looks at Baurus and goes "Heh."
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: CoffeeBreak, it's absolutely true that sometimes a change in one of my updates will have unexpected side effects. Maybe a plugin will stop working until it gets updated, for instance.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: But every single time that happens it means I'm updating, which means I'm still here and still helping people solve those issues.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CoffeeBreak nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: maybe I should go update :)
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I even offer trivia point rewards to people for bug reports now, because I'm tired of someone coming to me and saying "I have this problem since 4 years ago"
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, if you're scared of updating, send me a tell and I'll give my advice on how to be absolutely safe until you're comfortable with the process
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: so, how do people turn off the auto update checker?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm not going to answer how to turn off the check. I am happy to talk about ways to make it bother you less.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: more than happy to fix it, but not willing to ostrich the problem.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: well, a backup should be good enough. At least we have the option not to update and make a backup first. (windows10 has something to learn here)
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: so, it's up to commenting out the scripts..yup.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: there should be three options in it. check everytime - ignore this version - never check
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean, look, Cackle is a really nice guy. I think I might have a guess at why he in particular wants to disable the check. If my guess is right then I'm willing to go very far to fix it. But my fix will not disable the check.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: CoffeeBreak: yes. I would never force an update on anyone
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: right, so for the update, is there an export all option or something?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: there is only so little step from force checking to force updating :)
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: CoffeeBreak: one of the most important things about the project is that people need to be able to feel like they can trust my intentions even if they can't understand the code I write. For me that means trying to be as helpful as I can when people have questions and trying very hard to never violate player trust
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the mushclient auto updater has never worked for me when connected to virgin media anyway
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Danj: update checker or that other thing you had a problem with?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I know the live update never worked for you, but I thought it was at least telling you about new versions
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the other thing I had a problem with was when I tried manually installing an update
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and hte live update is dead because yours weren't even the worst of the problems with it
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: now it's just an NSIS installer
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: How do I go about getting all my maps and plugins installed on the new version, is there an easy way?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: well, what's the latest stable version, and is there a set of instructions somewhere on how to install it without clobbering any settings?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: CoffeeBreak: talk to me in tells. it's super easy
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ain't no such thing as a stable version, danj :p
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but honestly I think the latest one is probably the most stable
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nuanse: don't be a menace
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyone know how to check if you have nokfah's updated S&D or the old winklewinkle one?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: check the id?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: or author?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: i think nokfah changed the name. should have nok or something similair infront
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't think so :\
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8Uatd_2vBupfnlacldPcjd4Yy1mZnVzNEJHazlRNlpveEdPMkg5SVdBaXZnQm9VZGVVX2M
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I'm using id e50b1d08a0cfc0ee9c442001
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah but did he change the ID?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: id="b6eae87ccedd84f510b74715
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: that is original winkle id
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: my s&d says nok3_ww
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: there is another version for winkle with different id.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Baurus: this is the link in nokfah's finger -> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8Uatd_2vBupfnlacldPcjd4Yy1mZnVzNEJHazlRNlpveEdPMkg5SVdBaXZnQm9VZGVVX2M
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: ofcourse you can check plugin date written too.. winkle has not changed his plugins after 2012
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: date written doesn't update automatically so if nokfah didn't change it then it's the same
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: plugin author and date written should be enough to raise flag
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: plugin author in the linked files say winklewinkle :(
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Baurus: do you know where you got yours from?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: its quite possibly a private clan version
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: nokfah should be back any day though. apparently he is on vacation in europe or some such
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's vacation time
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nick gammon's on vacation too
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hey cackle you active?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: nod
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I saw you were asking about disabling the update check, but these other schmoes wouldn't talk to me about what they actually want changed about it. 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is the message box getting in your way or somethin?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Its OK now, it doesnt bother me anymore.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that because you edited it or just got used to it or what?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Get used to it, im sticking with 1919 now and wont change back to 1825, thanks.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: *nod* any suggestions?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (besides disabling the update checker)
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: could you make it a daily reminder instead of each login? doesnt bother me at all just seems that would solve it
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: are y'all having the same version notice show multiple times? I think it's supposed to not keep reminding you about the same version 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but maybe I need to check that
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: when you type checkversion, the same line with version info appears twice, not sure if that's intended or not
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: reaaaally?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: could someone remind me the command to see the revision number of the aardmush client?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: checkversion
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: thank you Abelinc
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I downloaded Fiendish's installer and it seemed to not install r1920 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I'll try outside of dropbox though, thanks again
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: feel free to send tells too if it gets confusing
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: is there a way to list all items inside a bag with a serial number, so I can that one specific item?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh, inside bags
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: invdata bagid?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: does that work?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if it does I need to add it to the inventory serials plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: yes it does thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: try invdata container ansi
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Can I use the same expressions from Mudlet, here?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: in MUSHclient to be precise.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What do you m ean, same expressions?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Also, Wilmer, where did you install MUSHclient? Did you install it in Programs directory?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I'm not at all familiar with mudlet. :/
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: issues with wine now all set, apparently Sierra on Mac not liking ".wine" renamed to wine and things are working properly
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: No, I have it installed on my desktop
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Wilmer.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Should I have it in my programs directory?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Was just asking because you mentioned that your font settings did not save, and they should have. Fiendish checked it out, it saved for him, so trying to narrow down the reason.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No, you do not want it in Program directory.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Can I paste a tiny bit of code, and tell me if it's way off the mark?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: put it in a note
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but yes
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I can look at it, sure.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The most common scripting languge for MUSH is Lua, however, which if I remember, Mudlet uses it natively.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So if you're writing scripts in Lua, then you should be perfectly fine. There are a lot of built-in functions, too, that you can use to help out.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Lua itself will be ok, but MUSHclient and Mudlet don't share APIs and that confuses a lot of people
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: https://hastebin.com/iqoraripex.cs
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: MUSH has similar abilities, just different functions.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: For instance, ColourNote("foreground", "background", "text") is what you'd want to use.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: actually that might be built into something, I didn't write most of this stuff, I copied it from forums and stuff.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I'm pretty noobish with the coding stuff.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Your cecho would then be ColourNote("dodger blue", "", "[", "green", "", "Target", "dodger blue", "", "]: ", "green", "", target)
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The "" in ColourNote indicates default background (black in most cases)
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I'm trying to build a simple set of triggers and aliai with a macro, so I can settarget "fish" then see my target highlighted and use a macro to cast spells at it.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm guessing string.title capitalizes the first letter of the word?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Wilmer: there's a tutorial on the mushclient forum about how to make a targetting alias
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you want I can provide the link
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: even if you don't want I can provide the link
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9616
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can find a LOT of helpful information on MUSH forums. Fiendish is active there, as well.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think anyone looking for specific aardwolf help should ask here, but if you're asking about a mushclient thing that isn't really specific to aardwolf there's probably an answer already in the forum
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Speaking of... so, Fiendish... you mentioned that your #sub takes gsub parameters, but when I try to sub something with parentheses, it doesn't work (for instance, #sub {%(OPK%)} {BAIT} doesn't work)
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne is agreeing with that Long Time Fiendish person again...
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you want to replace literal (OPK) with BAIT? let me test
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: HSo, I've done a little poking around on my own and couldn't find anything, but does mushclient have any kind of built-in feature to repeat commands? Like #3 kick, or something?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh, wait, no. it's the color codes. (OPK) isn't one color is it?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Raavus: No, but I wrote an alias for it.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: home
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: #sub can't currently match across color boundaries, which I believe was also a limitation in zmud
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I tried that using a couple different symbols (!, $, since # is speedwalk) and couldn't get it to work.  Could I see yours?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: sorry mt
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No, it isn't. It's white parentheses and magenta text.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Raavus: Hold on, I'll share my alias.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I suppose two possible options are to allow color codes in the match pattern or implement cross-color matching, which is doable but not trivial
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: https://pastebin.com/4DTwxqHf
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Makes sense, in any case.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Raavus: As a side note, you still have to double up the semi-colon if you want to repeat two or more separate commands (so #3 kick;;dirt, for example)
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: thanks, guys.  I didn't know the forums were so active.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As Fiendish stated, Aardwolf stuff here, basic MUSH stuff here and there. :D
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Hm.  I usually just do 1 command, no treal worried about multiple.  Thanks tho.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the forum isn't as active as it used to be. but that might just be because all the questions have already been answered!
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne grins evilly at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm. I need to update the hyperlink plugin. the regex is apparently insufficient.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: tech note 7338 dropped the trailing close paren 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ah, so it did.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Arcidayne: was the pastebin.com/4DTwxqHf the repeat-command alias?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Raavus: you want to send the same command multiple times?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah, like '#3 kick' in zmud or tintin, but for mushclient.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes, Raavus.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm. at some point I think I had that included in th epackage. I guess I removed it. I should put it back in
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's pretty simple as it is. I don't know that you ever included it, though.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nick should just inherently add it anyway.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Arcidayne: that alias doesn't work, because # is for speedwalks, it's giving me an error message related to speedwalks.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can change the # to whatever you want.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I personally don't use speedwalks with #, though.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Hrm.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I don't much, I guess Ic an get otu of the habit.  Lemme see if I can figure out where # is bound tos peedwalks.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: in the alias, just change the # to ! or whatever you want to use. :)
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's under Input-> Commands.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient speedwalks don't mean what you think they do. you should disable them
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (are they not disabled by default? I thought they wree)
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I forget, it's been such a long time. They probably are.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I know mushclient speedwalks are for manaul sws, I use them from time to time.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You're better off doing run swsws rather than #swsws anyway.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: If I'm crossing a big map it's easier to hit # and write out teh path as I'm following the map.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Why?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Oh, handled on the mud end, less bandwidth.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Because run is the MUD efficient way to traverse long paths.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Good point.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah. Aardwolf.mcl in my repo doesn't even have an entry for enable_speed_walk
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so I don't know if I should do the absolutely simplest change for the url regex or do the one that actually works correctly according to specifications
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because the correct one is quite long
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Speaking of URLs, is there a way to make the default action of clicking them 'goto URL'?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but it does things like differentiate between public and private IP address blocks
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Might save you headaches down the road, though.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: They already do, in the main window.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Ah, just not in the comm log window.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I can't play that tutorial video, updated flash, even tried internet explorer, but it won't play.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: any other links?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Wilmer: uh...try youtube-dl?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Wilmer: Not sure of any other links, hmm.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Didn't Nick do his videos on Vimeo?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh it's not youtube
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8084
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Hm, it looks like urls aren't even clickable in the main window.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Raavus: checkversion
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: r1825.  Just downloaded it ~a week ago.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Already old?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: it is
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You got it off the Aardwolf website. that's quite outdated.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Ah.  Is there a better place?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well I don't know about 1825, but if you get 1920 from my finger it includes a hyperlink_url2 plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The one you want is from Fiendish's github site.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: URL meh?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Finger Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I think Aardwolf page needs to be updated to just point to your page. :p
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Anything I should know about upgrading, or just copy over?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I know it says 1825 is the last stable version, but that's not entirely true. :p
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Make backups first.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: k, will do it later.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: S&D will not work with the new version, so you'll need to get the corrected copy from Nokfah.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah, it's been super iffy.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Got it to work, I just VPN'd from Canada, not sure what that changes...
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Oh, misread.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And when I say "make backups", I just simply mean create a copy of the entire MUSH directory to another location (maybe name it MUSHclient_old)
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm not super worried about the age of the link because 1825 is at least safe
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Right.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if it were 1835 I'd be far more concerend
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: concerned
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: usually if someone asks me where to get it I point them to my link, but 1825 isn't a _bad_ version. it's just not current with new features and new bugs and new fixes for the new bugs and some of the old ones
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when I feel like I'm not just fixing bugs anymore and want to start adding new features then I'll talk to lasher about updating the page
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but right now all my changes lately have been fixing bugs that I caused
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Fair point. :p
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what do you think the odds are of a real url ending in '?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: A single quote?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I've seen them occasionally end in ?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: single quote
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: folsk forgetting to put the search?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Oh, iono.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: urls too long and copy doesn't catch the rest heh
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I'm guessing not that likely
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: aye
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Aren't single quotes encoded on urls?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I thought that was automatic brokenness before, is it now something that works?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I would think so
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but the answer is no
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Interesting
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://www.google.com/search?q='
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this is rather unfortunate! 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: On chrome, it gets encoded to %27
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not firefox
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: my choice is either fail to catch urls ending in ' or incorrectly add a ' to every url at the end of a channel message
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well, some channels
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Former
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: my third option is to have it happen in two places
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Why are you failing to catch it, btw
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I could fail to catch them, but then specially catch them just on channels
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because I either let a url end in ' or I don't
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: What's wrong with letting it end in '
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well, if you say http://www.google.com/potato  it will show up as You say 'http://www.google.com/potato'
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and if it lets ' be part of the url, then when you click you'll go to the wrong place
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: urls are automatically encapsulated in single quotes?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no, say is
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Just say? Or all channels?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ftalk too
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Ahh
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: many channels.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: gossip
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: And only if you say the url alone
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: ?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: but not all
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Hm.. sounds like you're going to have to do some kind of quote-pair-matching.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I could try that
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Not gonna be pretty, but I don't see any better way of doing it.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the new regex isn't going to be pretty anyway. it's huge
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Regex makes my brain hurt.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I only ever use it rarely, and then only after much reading and tinkering.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: o'reilly book is quite good, I still have my version from early 2000s
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: then bought the ebook to I can reference
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: There are several good references online.  I just never use it often enough to stick in my head.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I'm trying to make the target variable highlighted within my alias, is that possible?  or do I need to create a trigger to highlight the variable, either way I don't really know how to do that.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you could do it with #sub and a custom function
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's a pretty advanced usage though
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: unless I misunderstood what you mean by "highlighted"
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Oh, you're trying to set a target with an alias, and then have the target in question highlighted?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I know how to do it in Mudlet, but I can't figure it out, here.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I dunno what #sub is, but.. yeah, that sounds complicated given you'd have to have a trigger that hooks on the contents of a variable.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Anyway, I'm out for lunch.  Mebbe back later, iono yet.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess there are two ways to do what I think is being asked for
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess there's an alias that sets a variable. in that alias you could also make a colorizing #sub and delete the previous one
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: that sounds messy, but ok
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or you could make a persistent #sub that calls to an external script function that looks at the content of the variable
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: except then you also have to have your alias in the same plugin as that variable
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and as the function
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and it's kinda messy
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably better to do it in the alias
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which I think wouldn't be too complicated
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: How can I see documentation containing the bug fixes etc, from Mush 1825 and up?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: on the website in my finger info
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle thanks Long Time Fiendish heartily.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Wilmer: Where are you expecting to see this highlighted variable? Are you trying to display it so it comes out colored?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Because based on your example from before, I told you how to do that.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: May have been missed, though.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I type t bug, now the word, "bug" is red.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: that's what I want
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So you want every time you see the word "bug" to be red?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Yes, it doubles as an easy document search highlighter, too. 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hold on, and I'll make an alias and a trigger for you, then.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: alright, thanks
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I cooked up a way to do it, but I'm just not familiar enough with the terms that MUSHclient uses.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I was looking on the forum for a big script/trigger/alias package to use as a reference to try to learn the lingo.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't think I can just pair match single quotes
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what if I say on here that I'm pretty sure you need to go to http://www.google.com/potato'
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it couldn't differentiate that from gossiping http://www.google.com/potato
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: The requested URL /potato was not found on this server. 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'll need to handle channels separately
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or just not allow it
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Wilmer: https://pastebin.com/dH8e7iHu -- that allows you to use t or T and the <name>, and will highlight the word for you.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You may consider changing the t or T to something else, maybe ta, because t is the shortcut for tell.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can change the color it highlights, too. I just put blue as the highlight at the time.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: pretty sure that color change triggers change the whole line color
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Pretty sure it doesn't. :P
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I just tested it.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wat
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As long as you have boundaries set \b@target_name\b, it won't change the entire line.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: he said he just tested it
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: fascinating
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Okay people, expect colour bugs in the next aardmush release :p
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne rolls on the floor laughing at Tricksy Bamboo's antics!
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hey wow. I never knew that would work
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Here we go
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess I can get rid of one of my #subs then
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm surprised. It's how Nick makes the "Highlight word" trigger.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I duno...
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Rather, the Highlight Word... wizard from right-clicking on a word.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I spent so many iterations getting #sub to work, I never figured you could recolor a word but not replace it
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As a note, Wilmer, it will match specifically your target (but ignores case), so "target bug" will match "Bug", but not "bugs" or "Bugs"
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: A case of too little too late here, but at least you can modify it now.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: That's fine, I can work with this.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: man, this is nuts. if you can change color on a word, I wonder why nick was always so resistent to adding sub
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: resistant
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As a note, Fiendish, the highlight word triggers do not carry over to chat windows, so #sub would need to still account for that.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well sure
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but I went through an entire set of iterations trying to do packet level substitution before I decided to make gmcp message substitutions request-based instead of forced
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I remember the first time you tried to implement #sub
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm not saying I wouldn't have ended up with what I have now anyway, but I would have explored a few other paths first
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: like maybe I could switch all matched patterns to unused colors and then something something
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, I won't worry about it. though I guess I should remove one of the examples :\
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well, change it anyway to clarify 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: got a name highlighting forum link? i'll throw it in
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't, don't even know if one exists.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wat. didn't you say there was a page somewhere showing it?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No. I said when you right-click a word and choose "Highlight Word..."
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ooh
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, have to select the word first, then right-click it.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Anyone VI and use NVDA? I'm having an issue with the Aardwolf Mush if someone doesn't mind helping a minute.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: k. it's here https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8085
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zyrox: I'm not and don't, but I know a little about it
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Every time I try to open the aardwolf client, NVDA reads EVERY character, even when I press control, which is supposed to stop speech. Any suggestions?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what plugin are you using to link output to nvda?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zyrox: What plugin are you using to link the output to NVDA? I thought NVDA doesn't read mushclient by default.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: I installed Mush Reader. SInce I couldn't get the speech to stop saying the characters in the aski art, I stopped the mush and started vipmud, but i'd rather have the mush working. My brother gave me a few vi plugins his friends gave him.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: OK
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Let me take a peek at mushreader real quick.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the VI players on my friend list aren't online at the moment or I'd ask them to pop in.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: My brother's VI and played for a while, but he uses Jaws, and hasn't been on in at least a year. He said the Aard mush worked fine for him, so I have no idea.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zyrox: OK. It looks to me like mushreader has a tts_stop alias. It's possible that maybe you need to link an accelerator to activate that?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zyrex: I have another option that we could try if you want to experiment with me a bit
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: I don't mind experimenting.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, first where did you get your copy of aard mush from?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Uh, my brother gave it to me. It had his plugins already in the package.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ah, OK. That will make this slightly trickier, since I assume therefore that your brother already configured things and didn't walk you through removing the graphical stuff that might get in the way.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Could I just download a newer version and just copy his plugins?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes, but we also want to make sure that the graphical stuff doesn't load if you don't want it running
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you can, please download and install this to, say, somewhere on your desktop  https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/releases/download/r1920/Aardwolf_MUSHclient_r1920.exe
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it has a plugin and some DLLs that I want to try using instead of mushreader
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Okay what do you want me to do once that's downloaded?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: If you run it, it's an installer. It will ask where to install to. Choose a safe location.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: somewhere like the desktop should be fine
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: YOu may know where I can just download the plugins he gave me? He said they're from Winkle I think.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: winklewinkle's sound pack?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I know of it, yeah.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: There are several that start with WinkleWinkle. I wonder how many were personal plugins?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the link for the VI sound pack and plugin is  http://code.google.com/p/aardwolf-scriptalicious/downloads/detail?name=Sound_Pack_(Unzip_into_Mushclient_Directory).zip
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oops not that
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hold on
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sorry, I mean it is this instead https://storage.googleapis.com/google-code-archive-downloads/v2/code.google.com/aardwolf-scriptalicious/Sound_Pack_(Unzip_into_Mushclient_Directory).zip
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I can put it through a URL shortener if needed
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I need to set up my URL shortener script again, heh.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: On CMUD, had one that would shorten the URL plus provide the title. Meh.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: There's one called container sort. Any idea where to find that one?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: MadCatz, I think, is what you're looking for.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, it's on his site, let me get the link.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Yeah that's it. Where could I download it online? Or could I just copy that from his plugins folder?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's a google drive link
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-x3Sl4k6JWLR2JweFMwa3lyTnc/view?usp=sharing
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hopefully it's accessible. the VI woman I used to live with used to complain about some of their services not being accessible
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Okay that mush is installed. Should I close vip and open that mush?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zyrox: No, not yet.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: First we're going to do some surgery.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: So that you don't get bombarded with stuff that might confuse NVDA.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Oh, I need to redownload MushReader too.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not yet
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Okay sorry for jumping the gun.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I want you to first try using a mushreader replacement that already has a macro set up for halting speech output.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: It may or may not work, of course. That's why this is an experiment.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm not VI myself, so it's not so easy for me to test these things without asking for help from others.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I make aard mush, by the way.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: In case that wasn't already known.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: worship Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Uh? Why didn't that do the social?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: socials on channels start with asterisk
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Oh, so like this?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zyrox bonks himself and grimaces in pain.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: exactly like that
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: So is there anything else I need to download?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: OK. First thing I would like you to do is to go into the new mushclient folder you just installed, and I'm going to ask you to edit a text file
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm sorry that I don't have an easier way to do this yet.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm about to ask you to delete some lines
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: No problem. Thanks for any assistance you can provide.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: My intention was to make a VI package as just its own download but external obligations always get in my way.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: inside the new MUSHclient folder, if you go into the worlds folder you should find a file called Aardwolf.mcl
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I want you to edit that file
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: with a text editor of your choice
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Will wordpad open xml files?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: uhh....yes I think so
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: let me know whenever you're ready with that editor
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Darn. Wordpad isn't listed as a program that can open it. Can I open wordpad and open the XML file that way?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Windows might be getting confused because, while it is an XML file, the file extension is MCL instead of XML.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zyrox growls.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: No luck?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: If not, that's ok. I do have an alternative solution
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: The other thing we can do is go and take your old Aardwolf.MCL file from your old aard mush folder and replace the one in the new install with it
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Nope. I opened wordpad, and chose open, but it only showed the plugins folder in worlds. Sorry I can't help you more. I feel like I'm shoving my problem onto someone else.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: It's literally what I'm here for.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: It is.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Sure, but you're a player too, and I hate to take this much time and effort.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: Zyrox, take a breath, don't worry Fiendish always help us =)
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Fiendish, drag me
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish thinks Tricksy Bamboo is a dragbie. Perhaps Long Time Fiendish is jealous that no one wants to group with him.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: So just copy and replace toe file from my brother's folder, and choose to replace the existing file right?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Yes. Copy the Aardwolf.MCL file from your brother's folder and replace the new one with your brother's.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: That way we can be more sure that you won't be accidentally loading any extra visual plugins that might confuse NVDA.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: But don't copy mush reader just yet.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm actually going to ask you to unload it and load a different plugin instead.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Okay that's done. DO I need to delete the tts plugins?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: No, you don't have to delete anything
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: All files can stay where they are. What I would like you to do next is keep vipmud open but also open the new mushclient
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: If you think that's possible
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Don't log in with mushclient yet. Just open it.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Okay it's open.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Fantastic. In MUSHclient, if you press Control Shift P to bring up the plugins screen, does it speak the interface?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Yes, it reads them in a list.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Sorry, I tried to reply. lol
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ok, please install the plugin called "universal text to speech" and uninstall the mushreader plugin.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: That seems to be working. I got a message that says that I'm using my synthesizer.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Hey, cool!
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: You know, I've never tested this before because I don't use Windows OS so I can't install NVDA.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: to we eed to do a go fund me to get you a windows test machine?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Will wordpad open xml files?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ontuct: If you wanna buy me a small windows laptop I will not turn it down
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Uh, where did that come from VIP?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: I'd drop 10 bucks for that
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zyrox slaps his computer
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish chuckles at Zyrox's joke.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: So do you think I'm safe to login on Mush?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zyrox: first, there's one thing you need to know
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: any radio hams here? 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zyrox: in my new universal speech plugin Control Space should stop speech. Should.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: So do you think I'm safe to login on Mush?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Yes, I think it's safe
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you might want to type mapper hide though
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Sorry if I sent that twice.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you have the GMCP mapper loaded, which you might, it has an invisible mode that doesn't display the graphical window
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but we didn't copy your configuration settings over, so if it was set before it might be unset
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Okay I'm logged on Mush, but the space isn't interupting text, and it's reading very slowly.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Control Space, not just space
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: does Control Space work?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: it's that small button under shift. most likely marked as ctrl
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not sure a markings description is the best way to find something in this case
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Yes, it works.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, good. Now to figure out why it's slow!
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: So is there a way to copy my brother's configurations, or should I just explore them myself? I'd hate to break something.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anything you find in worlds/plugins/state is safe to copy, just do it while mushclient is closed
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anything you find in plugins is also probably safe, but it's safer to ask about those first just in case
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zyrox: Does NVDA have speed controls per application?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: No. It's universal.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: But right now it's slow?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Does that mean MUSHclient isn't using NVDA? You said synthesizer, but that might not mean it's going through NVDA.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: When it started up, did it say anything indicating what system it was using?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Only when reading output. If I type, or switch to another window, it reads at it's normal speed. The synthesizer is the voice that NVDA uses. There are several. 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Oh, I see. It's using the NVDA voice?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Yes, it said Sapi.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ahhhhhh...
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Hmm. I think Sapi is the fallback. That's not great. One sec.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: That explains why it's slow.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Yeah, when I installed Mush reader before today, it said to choose sapi if I didn't use one of the listed screen readers.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: O wait, that may have been VIP, nevermind. SOrry!
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: control tab goes to the output window right?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: If so, the arrow keys don't allow me to read it.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't think so
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: control tab does something funny in my mushclient
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Oh, maybe the output window was a creation of Winkle's.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably not
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean, maybe
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I can look inside his plugin to see if it does anything with control tab
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: My brother said it copied all of the tech into a notepad window that updated, so he could read it with the arrow keys. 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ahhh, you want that script
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I have a plugin that does something like that
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: I think he and a few others got a few extra plugins maybe?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Please.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah let me find what it's called
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I was trying to find out why the universal speech plugin didn't link to NVDA :\
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: He said that he had a group of friends that were pretty close on here at one point. He actually asked me to find them and say hi if they're still here.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: know their names?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Umm, Papaya is one. 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: He called one of the others Chime. Said he could never remember the whole spelling.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: He pronounced it Chim I she ee o.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: My brother was MetroGnome by the way. Don't think I mentioned his name yet.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish whistles appreciatively.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sounds familiar
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Papaya's been gone for a while. More than a year now.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: chimeseo sounds familiar too
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: I think one from Xunti
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Ani? 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Nah, not Xunti that I recall
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ani is married to Chimeishio
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: or if so, before my time
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: and online
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: looks like they're both active
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Midgard?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Midgard's been gone about a year
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably left with papaya
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Wow. Maybe that's why he left. He told me that his old friends might not be active. Said something about his clan getting into a big argument and alot of people leaving the clan.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zyrox: back on the subject of speech output, there is a plugin that specifically controls SAPI that you can use for now until we figure out why I'm not able to link to NVDA
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and it has commands for making sapi go faster
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Wow awesome.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Can trivia points be bought?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: From players
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Uh, meant to put that on newbie.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: I'll give you the same answer there :P
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: He told me to get trivia points for enchanted equipment.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Alternatively, you can also control sapi settings in your windows control panel somewhere if you can find it
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: can also be bought with quest points but that's generally a waste of QP
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Where can I find that sapi plugin Mr Fiendish?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: one second. I've realized that it doesn't have the control spacebar to stop speech. so I'm adding it
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'll give you a download link in a second
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: That's good service, right there
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: we pay Fiendish well
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Wow I wish I coud code.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Like most things, it can be learned.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: I taught myself in middle school, the internet has a WEALTH of tutorials.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: luckily I am actually able to use sapi, so I can at least test this
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: MUSH itself has a massive forum of people making plugins.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not that many making plugins for VI aardwolf players 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: tyler spivey had a few posts a long time ago
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: There's a couple, but the statement was about programming in general.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: I actually watched this video from a VI programmer the other day, I'll see if I can find it
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Very enlightening
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: I don't actually have a way to copy that link. I'd need a way to view the output in that notepad window. Should I copy his old plugin(s)?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zyrox: yeah give me a second on that too
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zyrox: load the plugin called "aard VI command output"
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Video refererred to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWXebEeGwn0&t=138s
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zyrox: and read the document in the plugins folder called README command output plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zyrox: this might not be exactly the script you're thinking of, but it will capture the result of any aardwolf command and put it into a notepad
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so you can use it to dump channel history 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zyrox: I've updated the sapi plugin to also have the control spacebar macro to stop speech. https://goo.gl/cAC6cw
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the problem is that sapi isn't that good at reading some things
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: I can change voices. Would eloquence be better? I think there's an eloquence addon for NVDA.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sapi isn't a voice. sapi is the speech engine built into windows
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the problem isn't really sapi, it's that without NVDA or JAWS or something interpreting the text, I think sapi does a worse job of guessing how to pronounce things
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: In theory the universal speech plugin is supposed to send the text to NVDA, but something about that didn't work and it's sending to sapi instead
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which is a bummer
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so now I need to set up my windows virtual machine and test install nvda and try to figure out why that didn't work
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Oh weird. I didn't realize that Sapi was automatically on Windows. NVDA and Jaws can both use it. Would it help if I checked to see what other synthesizers I can get for NVDA? I know that there's an eloquence addon.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: It's possible that might help. If the plugin said it's using sapi already, then you can either adjust the sapi speech rate through the windows configuration or using some commands in the sapi plugin I just linked
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Really this just means I need to dig out my windows system so I can test with nvda
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: I think I'm going to have to turn on quiet mode to read that read me window. Every time a line of Mush output appears, it over rides what NVDA is reading.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Okay I'm back. Will that command work for channel history too Fiendish?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it should work for any output caused by a command to the server
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and if it doesn't, let me know
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: So should I add the sapi plugin?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://goo.gl/cAC6cw
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Or try to install a different synthesizer for NVDA?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can try both
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the sapi plugin won't be super different, it just has a few extra commands for controlling the sapi speed and voice
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the trade is that the sapi plugin definitely doesn't link to nvda
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I really should just merge them together
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I'm trying to create a trigger on: 'You open the door.' that fires on the second instance in succession.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Okay had to go for a few minutes. Did I miss anything?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I was just saying that the tradeoff with the sapi plugin vs the universal speech plugin is that it has some extra commands for controling the sapi speed and voice, but definitely doesn't try to link with NVDA
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: no, but, I'm trying to create a trigger on: 'You open the door.' that fires on the second instance in succession.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: If you know how to do that, you could give me a pointer.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so if you're stuck with sapi, then it's better, but if you can get nvda to actually work with the output then the sapi plugin would be worse
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and then I said I should probably just merge the two plugins so that the extra sapi commands work in the universal plugin if it is in sapi fallback mode
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Growl the Sapi plugin didn't load.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you downloaded it?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Uh, there was one in my plugins folder.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that one is identical but missing the control space macro for stopping speech
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Where can I download the one you were referring to?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this link https://goo.gl/cAC6cw
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Weird. I tried tech -h 2, and it only gave me one message.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MCP did?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean MC
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: No I meant the game itself.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that is weird
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: usually something like that only happens on the friend channel
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: But it gave the correct amount this last time...I just think nature is messing with me today.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Come on Eloquence addon. You can do it! Install yourself like a good little addon.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Even though you've been at it for almost eight minutes.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: So that sapi plugin?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah what's up
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Didn't you say I have to install a different one?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, so in your plugins folder there's a plugin called right?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, so in your plugins folder there's a plugin called sapi right?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Yessir.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you replace that file with the one at this URL the one at this URL adds a macro for control spacebar to stop speech to it: https://goo.gl/cAC6cw
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Okay that's weird as hell. No channel history will work for just the number one. 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: really?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you're trying to do tech -h 1?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that will print one line of history
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't think you can search for numbers
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Yeah, I tried tech -h 1, and it did nothing.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: it shows the last line for me
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah hosting a real site is something I've never really done. I have dinky little static content floating around, but most of it is pennies
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mischannel
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Well, NVDA won't read it for me.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: will it read it if you capture it with MC command?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zyrox punches a brick wall, then immediately crades his throbbing hand.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mc command tech -h 1
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: er
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Yes, mc command worked.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Damn this addon is still installing. 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wow. super slow
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: must be huge
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: But it's not a progress bar. The beeping is the same frequency, and I think the bar on the screen is going around and around. It usually does that when the beeping frequency stays the same, according to a younger brother who thought it was funny one day.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: So what do I do to that sap plugin Mr Fiendish?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: replace the old one with it
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and then uninstall the universal speech plugin and instead install the sapi plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Old one?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok ok, remember there's a sapi plugin in your plugins folder already?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: How do I get the new one?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's called sapi? 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Yes in the plugins folder.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah, but it doesn't have a fast way to stop speech
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so we're going to replace it
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and we're going to replace it with the one downloaded from https://www.goo.gl/cAC6cw
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which is identical except it adds a way to stop speech with control spacebar
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: just like the universal speech plugin has
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if that doesn't make sense, ask me whatever questions you want
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Well that addon finally completed. So should I try eloquence first? Eloquence is primarily a Jaws synthesizer.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah try it first
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Okay I'm using Eloquence. So I hear what I type in Eloquence, and the Mush outputs in Sapi. A weird combo.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: better or worse?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Only drawback to the Eloquence is that I have a seven day trial. I need to check to see what a full licence costs.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I hope fiendish is writing this down as a faq for future.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: I'd prefer to hear just one synthesizer, since they both talk at the same time, but I don't want you to go through much more trouble.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if I learn anything then it wasn't trouble
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: When it comes to Fiendish, he'd rather you were informed to your satisfaction anyway.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: ofcourse. Just thinking this would be nice to see in google when you search help for such issues.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: So what options do I have now Mr Fiendish?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well, where are we right now?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: I'm using Eloquence for NVDA, but the output is still speaking using Sapi.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, still using the universal speech plugin?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: first let's just try reloading that plugin. Press Shift Control P to bring up the plugins screen, see if you can select the universal text to speech plugin, and then Alt I will reinstall it
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: My brother says he doesn't remember where he found it, but there's a list of tts (text to speech) plugins online. He thinks there's a TTS NVDA plugin in the list.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if this doesn't work, then we should definitely try that 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Damn. It still said I'm using sapi when I reinstalled the universal plugin.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok. see if you can go find that nvda tts plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if your brother knows where it is
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this may seem like a strange question, but why don't you and your brothre use the same screen reader?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: He got his for free, from his college, and mine is out of date. It's 400 bucks to update, and NVDA is completely free.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ah. I knew NVDA was free. I didn't realize you need multiple JAWS licenses
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: We don't use the same computer.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: He moved out after he got a job.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ahh. Ok. Well let's hear what he says about where to find this nvda tts plugin.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm sad that my attempt at a universal plugin ended up being not so universal after all.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: He says it may be in the mushreader bundle, but to google just in case.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, then we can copy the mushreader bundle over for sure
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that should be reasonably straightforward
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I notice there's a file called nvdaControlerClient32.dll in it that it says to put in the main mushclient folder
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: That's the only bad thing about Jaws. It's 375 bucks to upgrade when Windows gets too new for the version you have installed, and 900 bucks new.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and also a file called mushReader.dll that also goes in the main mushclient folder
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 900 new! good god
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: wow
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: that's expensive
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Yeah, I think he said there are dll's to put in the directory, and the exe in the plugins folder.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not exe, but yes
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Erm, XML?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: That was my fault, not him.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it seems like we have one dll for nvda, one dll for dolphin which you're not using, one dll for mushReader, and one xml
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Geez, $900 for a vital software that allows visually impaired individuals to enjy and work on Pcs. What a ripoff.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's more than the PC to run it. :\
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you get money where you can... and I agree.. I thought jaws was free
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: No, there's a free download, but you can only run it for forty minutes at a time, then you have to restart your computer, or Jaws shuts itself down.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: sheesh
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: sorry for you. 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: "Hey boss! I'm almost done with this report! I'll have it finished in another 2 computer restarts!"
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Having to pay extra for a luxury a majority of the world has naturally really does suck.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: talking about disabling already disabled.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish snorts.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok ok ok 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: I need to download MushReader right? It's separate from the bundle right?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zyrox: your brother's old mushclient folder still has the mushreader files in it right?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Oh, I can check. Duh.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zyrox bonks himself and grimaces in pain.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Holy crap I've been on a quest that I forgot about. Just a minute sorry!
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Where is the river in Newthalos?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: south
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: south gate
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: all the way south
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: new thalos is almost a mirror of Aylor
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: gaardian has some VI maps too, btw
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: far from it
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i meant.. bdidge
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: going to post a link to VI maps for some of the areas in aard
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes that's true, we do have VI maps. let me check if we have one for new thalos
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: http://maps.gaardian.com/vi-index.php
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: bridge is at south gate. go down and you are at river
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hey check it out. we have one
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: How much could I get for a qreset token?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: 3.5 to 5 million
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Crap I need to remember other channels. lol
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: depends
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: sell during double qp it will go for 5+
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Thanks for the spellup if that was someone listening on this chan.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: take it to barter you bastards! we need tech info here :)
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Take your insults to echo, meanie! We need nice people here!
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I'm listening for the info coming here, I dont want to see some nonchannel related ruining it.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, calm down
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: plesase continue
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Okay I just checked his folder, and he has the dll and xml files for MushReader and NVDA.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Great. Copy those over
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Okay those are all copied, and I took a bathroom break.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: luckily there are no rules against that
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, now you'll need to once again uninstall the not very universal speech plugin and then install the one called mushReader
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Crap that didn't work. It's not reading the output!
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Hahaha noooooooooo
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I really wish one of the people I know who also use NVDA were here right now
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: What the hayoll! Why didn't that work?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Well, I'm reading this chan through the mc command, but that isn't very helpful for moving around and such. Should I remove the mushreader and add the universal plugin again?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or add the sapi plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so that you can at least control the speed
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Well the Universal plugin is using Eloquence now. Weirdness?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is that good?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's good right?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Yeah I'm getting one voice for everything.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: huzzah!
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zyrox falls on his knees and worships Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but how's the speed?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: The speed is how I have it said for NVDA.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's awesome!
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so the secret was eloquence?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Since I'm not using Sapi, I guess.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's interesting and good to know that installing eloquence makes the universal speech plugin work
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Okay I think I found the plugin my brother was referring to. It's called current output window. He said it takes everything, walking and room descs included, and puts them in a self-updating notepad window.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: are you sure that's it?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I have a plugin called that and I don't tihnk that's it
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: I wish I had a way to get ahold of Winkle, but my brother lost his email, and said that Winkle was pretty much gone by the time he quit.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah. it's true. he got a lot of grief for his "search and destroy" plugin that I think drove him away from Aardwolf. It's really sad and unfortunate.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've known a few people over the years who were really amazing and creative who ended up making some kind of social mistake and suffering for it.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: I wonder if that's the one my brother said made him feel like he was cheating?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: most likely
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Probably.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but he also made the VI sound pack
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Ouch.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Where did you say that sound pack is. That would be nice to have.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Oh. Metro says the plugin is VI output functions...he thinks.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sounds familiar
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah...the old oriol gomez plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: I don't see anything with a name like that in his folder though.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I have a copy of that
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the question is whether you know how to use it!
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Huh. He thought it was something Winkle made.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: I probably don't.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'll check if winklewinkle has something with a similar name
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm not finding anything in winklewinkle's repository
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, I have a VI plugin called output functions that I can send to you
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which may or may not be the one you're looking for
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the problem is that I don't have any documentation for explaining how to use it
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm going to search the mushclient forum for this. You said it just redirects all output to the notepad, is that right?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Yeah, from what my brother said. It's a self-updating notepad window that captures all of the output.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Where's the soundpack again?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://storage.googleapis.com/google-code-archive-downloads/v2/code.google.com/aardwolf-scriptalicious/Sound_Pack_(Unzip_into_Mushclient_Directory).zip
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Weird. Tech history for 1 line still doesn't work.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so do two lines
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I can't find anything matching your description in the mushclient forum
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think I could make it though.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Do you have a gofundme page? I'll need to start paying you soon.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I can act as his goto guy for payments.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in the past I've told people who wanted to pay me to donate to aardwolf instead
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I do this because I enjoy helping people
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That was in the past. What about in the now and future? *srun*
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and because my wife is in another country for at least another week
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: I apologize if someone answered my question and I missed it. Where's the soundpack? Or some other useful plugins? He said there's one that organizes a container.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Fiendish did answer it, but it's a quite long URL.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I sent it in a tell
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's a very long url
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: try mc command tell -h
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I always forget to capitalize MC. the plugin doesn't care, but I imagine the speech engine might.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'll also send you the link for container sort in a tell
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ugh. I hate that google always decides to show me pages in French. How many times do I have to click on the stupid give me pages in English button!
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: why?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Because my french isn't that good
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I mean, why is google giving you french anyways?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and it's annoying to have google constantly assume that just because I'm in france must mean that I want everything in french
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He's in France.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Oh, because google are assumptive d-bags
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: it doesnkt use geo ip does it?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Google is training you
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it does
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Log into your google account, and set up your preferences, does it have that?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: isnt it possible to see what user has set language as?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it SHOULD use OS language settings, but it doesn't do that because they're idiots
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yep. It assumes your location and assumes you know the language.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Seems like something google should do...
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Get a VPN
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: it would seem a best practice!
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: does the browser tell webservers the language?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: the OS language*
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: it can
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I shouldn't need a vpn just to get google to stop reverting my choice
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Possible that it's not remembering if you've disabled cookies?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: you'd think they would if only to sell you the right ads!
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Everyone should be using a VPN, nowadays anyway.  It's amazing how unabashedly coorporations vie for private browsing data.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't disable cookies
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: No kifdding. If your search terms are in English, why show results in French?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I know because I get a stupid warning about it everywhere I go online
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because of EU cookie laws
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Do you clear them when you close sessions?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: if you use a vpn service, it's no better than direct isp, if you set up your own remote box, it starts getting there. tor proxy is the best. no method is bulletproof, eventually big data and creating patterns from people's behavior transcends all other methods. you will be identified by your fingerprint, your habbits, behavior, words, urls visited - whatnot. welcome to 1984
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no of course not
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You miss American freedom!
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: In Mozilla Firefox 'Self Destructing Cookies' will do it for you, you can choose when you want the cookies to be deleted.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: cough*NSA*cough
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Firefox says "Firefox will remember your browsing, download, form and search history, and keep cookies from websites you visit."
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's enough of that talk. It's all gibberish anyway, geez. You people need to stop being so paranoid!
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: Wilmer cookies are just on your side. there are other tracking mechanisms, via js, ip traffic, browser signatures etc'
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Not paranoia, it's reality.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hush! We do not ... I mean, they do not spy on you!
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: No Script, Self Destructing Cookies, Disconnect, Ublock Origin, VPN, disable RTC leak, basic browser setup.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: NSA toolkit - not used against US citizens? (LAUGH)
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Adblock Ultimate is pretty nice, too.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: failing to understand the complexity of the situation - does not mean there is no situation Arcidayne
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: and stop using google, DuckDuckGo is a much more private search engine.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: Arcidayne if it's ads you wanna block - yeah. if you wanna keep out the real bad things use noJS or script throttler of some kind
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Failing to understand the sarcasm does not mean there is no sarcasm, Nevela.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: most of the magic is there
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: not using google is one of the best ways to go off the net grid
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nevela nods at Wilmer and says, "I concur." Why didn't you?!
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: If it's off the grid you want, throw your smart phone in the trash can.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If it's off the grid you want, go hibernate in a tent 100 miles from civilization. No phone, no lights, no motorcar. Not a single luxury.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: it's not only phones that are smart nowadays, sorry for the most part you can't even trust your TV anymore
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: soon it will also be for your dishwasher
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: IoT baby
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Anyway, we need to get back on topic. :P
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: Arcidayne what is the topic
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Yeah, there was a whole big scandel over the TV's, smart TV's were recording people in their homes...
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: counter-espionage measures
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nevela nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh great... now here comes Xyliz...
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Channel snooze time.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: hidden cameras in the smart tv ?!?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: why do you think they started netflix and chill?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: they're not hidden, they are right out there
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: "SKYPE CAMERA" lawl
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: You can use a browser like Shodan to log into internet connected devices, (or hack in) and modify settings, pull recordings, etc. 
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: The CIA recently had tons of spying technology leaked all over the world, so now you are probably being spied on by everybody.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: how can I take last command o line?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Pardon?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: on*
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you just want to repeat the last command type !
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: And if you're using mushclient, you can scroll back and forward through your command history with control-p and control-n
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beednox Tech: Hey guys! Does anyone know of a pluglin that displays your inventory?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah, type 'inv'. No plugin needed.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beednox Tech: I wish there was a multiwindow for it... *sigh*
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Bast has one that does that, I think.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: well, you can filter inventory a bit
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Bast does -  used it many years ago and it was too slow may be better now though.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: There's also the invsort command
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is buggy for me at the moment.
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: If I want to backup my Aardwolf map files, is it th Aardwolf.db in the main folder, and then the (3) files in db_backups named Backup_Manual, Automatic, and Manual? Am I missing anything?
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You don't need the db_backups
T3/r7/2017-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: anyone have a preferred spellup mushclient plugin?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: mapper unmapped shows a down in a room that has no down or custom exit
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you mapped it wrong!
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: keep it together, man!
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: or you could have been in pkill clan where there was an exit to another clanhall
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: have you tried opening all directions in that room?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ya
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: no worries
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: maybe years ago non worries and thanks
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: s/non/no/ heh
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ack, methinks you are right, door down opens heh but can't go in, got it 
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Is 28megs per second Good for transfering over 100gigs on a non HDD drive ?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: depends, is it sata or what?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: My main hard drive is SATA 3 2TB at 7200 rpm (Toashiba brand) Im copying some files from my sisters external
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: then the limiting factor is gonna be the speed of the external interface, e.g. is it usb2, usb3 etc
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: is it USB 3?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj points excitedly at Shotgun!
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: The normal USB thats located infront of PC box, not sure.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: is it blue, the port it's plugged in to
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: cause they run at 80MB + per second
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Seems very slow
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: if it is, then it's USB3
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: if it's not, then it isn't
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: also both the drive and the port have to be usb3 to see speed gains
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: The external is blinking blue atm. I can guess the USB port its using on my box is 1.5 CM
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Ahh the port on external is very small
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: not quite what I meant...
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: you know how USB ports have a little plastic bit so you know which way round to plug your cable?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle thanks Tech Bloke Danj heartily.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: usually that's white or black or something
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but on usb3 ports it is blue
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: the inside of the usb port would be blue
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj nods at Shotgun.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Let me try again, the cable plugged into external is a very small usb port, the other end plugged into my pc box is bigger
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: google usb 3 if you dont understand :P pictures always helps
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh yeah lemme find a picture
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh yeah lemme find a picture
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/xusb-2.0-vs-usb-3.0-blue-port.jpg.pagespeed.gp+jp+jw+pj+ws+js+rj+rp+rw+ri+cp+md.ic.Hw2qDXl-UA.jpg
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: ahh, usb 3 has something that looks like a double port at the side that fits in the external
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok so in this picture, did the port you plugged it in to on your PC look like the blue one or the black one
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: the thing that i can take away from this discussion is, if both end of usb cable is not the same size the data transfer rate will suffer
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: that's not quite right
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it's not about the size, it's about the version of usb that is being used
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: usb 2 is slower than usb 3
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: There is no blue anywhere besides the blinking blue light
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok so you probably do not have usb 3
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: and that is why it is slow
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: i see, so 28ish mbps is slow
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it is for a usb 3 external drive, yes
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle rapidly nods twice at Tech Bloke Danj, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: All the files are like 800megs in size individually, so its not small size files like under 1 meg that will hamper transfer
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nods, its the external making things slower, because when i copy normally on my hard drive its much faster
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: if your PC has space for it, you can get an addon card that will provide USB 3 ports on the back
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: which will be faster
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but other than that there is not a lot you can do
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Thanks for that tip. I just checked my Motherboards manual, its 8 2.0 usb ports
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: for example, https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815166038&cm_re=usb_3_card-_-15-166-038-_-Product
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Neat
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Heh, there isnt another online game that haves such fast and knowledgeble tech answers, ty
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: you're welcome
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: its upto 39 megs per second now when its almost done
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Floki Tech: its all lies...lies I tell you
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Floki throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj rolls on the floor laughing at Floki's antics!
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: It gets faster and faster, no lies.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: well, with usb 2 ports there is a lower limit to how fast it can get
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: provided the drive is usb 3 compatible, then if you got a usb 3 addon card, you could transfer files even faster
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Im using Total Commander 8.52 to copy files, it have two windows in the software. In the first window is my C drive and the other window is the external. I just drag to coppy. IT is faster like the normal old way, and you can even pause preogress and it show detailed info while coppying
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Price of that USb 3 addon?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: 20 bucks
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: or thereabouts
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: also you'd need to make sure your PC has a spare card slot inside before buying one
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Besides that USB 3, im seriously considdering buyin a tv card and wifi card
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nice Danj
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: tv card?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: what do you want a TV card for?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: just get netflix or amazon video or whatever
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I think i bought a bad motherboard though, its a MSI motherboard with 16times pci express2 slot, the thing thats bothering me now is, it only haves a very small slot just beneath that one i mentioned.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: can i use that slot for tv card?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah that very small slot is a pci-e 1x slot
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: and yes, I think I've seen 1x tv cards
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: like very very small?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: basically the length of the slot tells you how many pci-express lanes there are
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Floki Tech: thats what she said Cackle
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the longest one is 16
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: and the smallest is 1
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: certain types of card need certain amounts of pci-express lanes
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: so like graphics cards are always 16x
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but other types of addon cards can be 8x, 4x or 1x
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: sweet! I bought a not to expensive board but wanted to draw all the power out of my GTX 1050 TI card
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle bonks Floki on the head for being such an UTTER moron.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Floki throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: well, if you've only got one small slot and there's no other slots, then you gotta pick what card you want to put in it, I don't think there's a way you can add slots to the board
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I got a ddr 5 GPU but only gddr 3 PCI slot, i think i dont lose that much fps in games though
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle gives Tech Bloke Danj a nod, saying, "OK".
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: um....
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok you said some words there but I'm not sure you used them right
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: pci express slots don't have ram types
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: i got a ddr5 ram gpu in a ddr3 pci slot?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah that doesn't actually make any sense
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: there's no such thing as a "ddr3 pci slot"
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: what it might be is that your gpu is compatible with gddr5 but to keep costs down the card maker only did ddr3 on it
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Well awesome then my GPU is running at full potential
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: brb
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: whaT? I have a coffee maker in my ddr3 pci slot
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but that's nothing to do with the slot it's in
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj pokes Odorless Nuanse in the ribs.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: don't confuse the issue lol
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj menaces some sea snakes
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: No no, Its a MSI gamingX overclocked gpu, it only states DDR5 on my box
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok, so where'd the ddr3 come from?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: is that your main system ram maybe?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it doesn't matter that the system ram is a different ddr number than the graphics card ram
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: they are independent
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: MY mother board ram is DDR3 and i see nowhere in manual anything is named ddr5
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I know ram and gpu ram is different
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yes the motherboard manual will not mention ddr5
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: as at the moment ddr5 is only for graphics cards
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: So the question is can my PCI express slot handle ddr5 ram at full power even if they dont say anything about ddr 5 in the manual
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: my mother tried boardin. she never got to motherboard
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: ahh i see ty
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: ram is only till ddr4
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the ddr5 ram doesn't have any connection with the pci express slot, it's being used by the gpu
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: shotgun: on graphics cards they can have gddr5
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: ddr4 ram is not that faster as ddr3 gaming wise
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no but newer cpus require ddr4
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle gives Tech Bloke Danj a nod, saying, "OK".
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Ive seen online benchmarks of ddr3 and ddr4 sticks at 2100 fregquenzy, its neclatable
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: My biggest mistake was, I thought you had motherboards that are only 3gddr pci slots will not draw all that pixel power from nice gddr% graphic cards, it would throttle down
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: gddr5*
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the only way that would happen would be if you had a motherboard that only had an 8x pciexpress slot and you put your gpu in it
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: that would slow it down
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but it's not anything to do with the type of ram
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nods, im pretty sure mine is running at 16 cause i checked it with GPU-Z and CPUID CPU-Z just to be double sure
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok good
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Even if you run at 8 and not 16, your benchmarks on Direct 9-12 games wont be that bad, like 15-23% drop on frams i think if i remember right from online benchmarks
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: But hell. I wont sufface with that lol
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Everything must run at max potential, or il be irked
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I think ive seen in an advert that you can but tv cards in usb form
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: that is correct
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: cool
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: so i must buy something special for my lonely small pci slot
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Buying sound cards is reduntant
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj is agreeing with that A Demonic Cackle person again...
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Is there a thing like a PCI slot fan that blows air directly on gpyu?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: omg
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: So gonna buy that :D
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: e.g. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835888309&cm_re=pci_fan-_-35-888-309-_-Product
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle bows before Tech Bloke Danj.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I think my CPU is running pretty low, what do you think about 32degrees celcuis and 43ish under max load
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: that sounds fine
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: MY gpu goes up to 95 >_<
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: that's fairly normal
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: gpu has different heat profile to cpu
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: phew
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: you can always fit an aftermarket cooler to the gpu
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: (but got to check it is compatible with your model of card first before buying)
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: anyway I am gonna afk for a bit now, catch you later
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nods but my lame geforce 710 only went upto 60 degress 958 core clock, but i guess with my 1050 TI 1450ish core clock it will run that hot, i mean it got two fans on the board but still. ahh oits factory overclocked
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle waves goodbye to Tech Bloke Danj.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: There is no spave for another fan on my GPU DAnj, it got already two fans on it, i even got two large intake LED fans in my side pannel and one extracting fan at back top of box, the only thing i want now is that pci slot fan that blows onto gpu
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle prances up to BossyBoots Audra and hands her a beautiful little flower!
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Is there a way to convert movies to a format thats compatible on home theatre entertainment dvd machines without having 3rd party softwware?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Simply renaming .mp4 extentions and the sorts wont do
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Sister asked me to put some cartoons on a flash drive for her 3 year old daughter
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: That is true, the dvd system requires .vob format. You would need something to convert the .mp4 format into a format the dvd can read. I am not sure if there is a program in windows native to the environment that would be capable of doing this.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: Windows software was not designed for this purpose. I can do some research for you though, if you would like.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Sigh, I will then look for a light weight converter Sidenis, since i dont want to spend all night searching and converting
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Thans anyways, i also though win 7 etc wont cant do that
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There are several software programs (and even websites) that would do the renaming for you.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: many DVD players can play regular video formats
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Freemake is one such software - convert to any video format you choose.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: thanks Arci. Its a LG home theatre system Abe and cant even read most PC movie files
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: DVDFab is nice software, too, but it's not free. Mine was, because I got it during a promotion, though.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Heh i got DVDFab Virtual Drive
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: If you are of an acquiring nature, there is always torrents. I use convertx.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I use bittorrrent
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But yeah, look into Freemake. http://www.freemake.com/free_video_converter/
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle rapidly nods twice at Arcidayne, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Microsoft had the free Windows Movie Maker which would convert movies to DVD
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I have movie windows maker niow
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Correction Windows DvD maker
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Thanks anyways, let me download that converter, and get this ankle biter of my back hehe
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well that sounds like exactly the sort of thing you'd use for this
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle bows before you. 
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I also use Bittorrent.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nods windows dvd maker works like a charm. Yes Wilmer, I also love BitTorent
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Tixati is a better torrent downloader. Free, without all the bloated crap, either.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I also like Piratebay and napster, not sure if they are even a thin these days
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle gives Arcidayne a nod, saying, "OK".
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Napster is long gone.  Pirate bay is still sort of around.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Piratebay was so awesome though
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Pirate Bay is not what it was.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Napster was the best mp3 site imo
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I use utorrent myself.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle looks at Wilmer and goes "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Actually, I mispoke, I use qBittorrent
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I also got Utorrent in my software folder, never got to it and tried it
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Basically the same thing, but an itteration with less bloating.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: BitTorrent seems pretty fast
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Utorrent is so bloated with ads.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I use an older version, and blocked the ads.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: You know you can throttle down seeding and so reduce bandwith?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But yeah, give Tixati a try. Definitely won't be lacking, and it's pretty user-friendly, in my opinion.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: If you aren't using a VPN, you should absolutely be on reduced bandwidth, even if you don't download anything large.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: That Tixati i will have to try then, im all about tax free add free user friendly software/games without hassles
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: How can I use VPN
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Subnet mask IP ?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Buy it, mainly.  But there are free versions available with limited usage, like WindScribe.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I bought a decent VPN, then ran out of subscription, and actually got lucky and won a year sub to another VPN, that does the job.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Oh i thought its a proxy
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Proxy is different.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So what's the best VPN out there, then?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: This is very interesting to me, sadly i dont have the knowledge or brain power to grasp it
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: VPN routes your traffic to another location, then encrypts it between you and that location.  ISPs only see that you are connected to that location, everything you do is encrypted.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Love that Wilmer
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: By proxy you can have multiple IP adresses ?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I have no idea what the 'best' VPN is, because there are lots of options.  You want to do your research before actually buying one though, check the privacy policy thoroughly.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: IM curious are you a IT student Wilmer?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: You are never completely anonymouse online, even with a VPN.  RTC leak is a good example of one way that your IP can be leaked, but there are many such exploits.  
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I dont wanna buy stuff online, dont like spending money online
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I'm not an IT student, I'm actually a Linguistics student.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I like to be a ghost online, to reduce hacker hacks, also some bloke was killed in s counter strike sever by a knife by a player, and he located his adress and knocked on his door, when the player opened the oor he stabbed him with a knife irl
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Heh, PCMag rates IPVanish as the top VPN for 2017.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Great. Now I have to worry about all my pks coming back to haunt me.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shaelynne throws back her head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: true story, the knife attack victom irl survided though
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Yeah, even an amateur hacker can access a lot of information about you.  
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: I agree with you, Wilmer. Anything that is put on the internet can be accesses by someone else. Citizen 4 is a good example of this. It is eye opening.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Ever heard of Shodan browser.  You can hack into traffic cams, home security, find people's ip addresses.  
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: How can I create cexits for areas like fractured lands that make extensive use of portals?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Specifically: how can I make a cexit for a portal and link it to a specfic room# instead of an exit?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Same way you make any cexit.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: I have not heard of that browser before, Wilmer. Have you used it, and how effective is it?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: mapper cexit enter jet
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: So it just automatically knows which room a portal links to when I go through?  Huh.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: That's pretty slick.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It does if you move successfully to a new room within 2 seconds.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Oh right, makes sense.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: if not, you can change the time it waits to link the room
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I wondered why it moved you in creating the cexit.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Makes complete sense now.  Thanks. :)
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I have tested it out, I was able to hack into some cameras.  You can easily look up the device, find the user manual, check default passwords, type those in, and bam! you're in.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I noticed the wierdest tech phenomenah, MY gaming mouse got two lazers beneath it, but any time i flip over my mouse, i see sweat drops aka condensation on the glass above the lazors
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: these cameras are directly connected to the web? i somehow doubt that most cable models/routers will allow incoming connections
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: A lot of random stuff is connected to the web because it makes distributed management easier.  Problem is, most of them are woefully undersecured.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Yeah, not all devices do, but enough do.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Because you can't do anything with them if you can't find them, and they're not indexed on search.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: It's not peoples' webcams tho, it's like security cameras and such.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: well, technically you could theoretically find any device connected to the internet.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: that makes more sense to me
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: ...if my router blocks incoming connections how are you going to do that
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: unless you hack my router
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: That is true, Wilmer, and I agree. 
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I'm not a hacker, but I assume it would not be too difficult, I doubt your router is just blocking all incoming connections, that makes no sense.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: of course it makes sense
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: Lol, that is true.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: The trick is to slip traffic in on ports every router listens to and con it into letting it through to your computer.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Your devices, however, like a computer or phone, would be nearly impossible to hack into for an amateur.  Not at all impossible though, leaked CIA documents reveal that they have and are able to achieve this.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Abelinc your autoreply plugin for mush is working correctly now, it doesnt shoot double tell replies
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: a router should block incoming traffic that isn't matched to outbound requests unless you have explicitly opened ports on it
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Packet spoofing, etc, though that's generally unused in favor of known exploits.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: so... just a hint for those that dont understand the router... please consider how blocking works... home routers block all incoming connections that are not 'stateful' by default...
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can't just send data at port 80 on a router and expect to get in the way of the person on the othr side watching youtube
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I guess its when I updated to 1919
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's garbage nonsense
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah, it's more complicated than that.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I only know what I've read tho, hacking is quite a ways beyond me.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: oh man, is that how those dirty videos get opened in my browser?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: You always want to have a pop blocker enabled.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I hate when that happens. I'm watching some cute kittens, and all of a sudden, BAM! I get a lot of... different types of kittens popping up on my screen.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: because of stateful blocking, hacking a home router has nothing to do with the ports that are open, and more to do with finding a connection state that is already open (good luck) and overrunning the buffer... but at that point, its easier just to hack the host that has the open state
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: and an adblocking addon like Ublock Origin, which in my opinion is currently the best for Firefox.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Koopa: Ah, apparently my info is outdated.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's also possible that the router has a hardcoded remote admin password set
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: nod Fiendish, but again, it would need to have remote access enabled in order for that to be listening on the outside
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: most routers dont have that enabled by default anymore
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably true
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway why are we talking about this?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I don't remember.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: they enjoy it i guess
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i dont know... i just saw some clear 'misunderstanding' about how hacking works.. and thought id clarify
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: or debunk false statements
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: it all started with VPNs
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: (TRAITOR) Long Time Fiendish the [Aardwolf MUSHclient] maker \}Tao{/ (Male Assassin) never known you were in a clan
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: What Wilmer initially stated was the theoretic possibility of anything connected to the internet to be accessed. Which is true, just because we don't know how, does not meant that it stops being a possibility.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: AIR-GAP THE INTERNET!
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: im gonna make T-Shirts
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm in TWO clans
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Tao said I could join 
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Really confused me for a second, haha.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: thats very interresting, since nothing pass me by easily
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I do know how VPNs work, but I can't say much on hacking.  It's not rocket science though, you can do alot with a week's worth of internet research, if you want.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: Wilmer, you can 1337 h4x0r anything with a weeks worth of research... real hacking takes skill
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hacking with understanding is probably more difficult than making a rocket
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: rockets are just explosions funneled out the back
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: blowing something up is kinda easy
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: and i shouldnt have said anything there.... i should have just said stuff
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: For sure.  I knew a guy years ago who was part of the red team (people who try to break through networks to find holes) at Sandia Nat'l Labs, and what little he explained of his work was way, way over my head.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe I should amend that to be rapid combustions funneled out the back
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I wanted to be a theoretical physicist, but I got very discouraged when I got into maths.  I worked my ass off and didn't get very far.  So, I went into Linguistics, instead.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Rockets I sorta understand, at least at first principles.  The engineering is beyond me, but.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: pfft. you just take a material that doesn't melt or burn at the combustion temperatures and shape it into a cone out the back of a fuel dispenser
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Jet fuel can't melt steel beams.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Raavus /
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Raavus :/
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: thats a sensitive topic...
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: the material science behind some of that tech is very cool
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Fiendish: Nozzle design is quite a bit more complicated than that..
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: lol, I was amused with the reference.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: jet engine turbine blades are grown out of single crystals of metal alloy
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: as kids we used to make rockets out of cardboard and packed solid fuel plugs
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do people not do that anymore?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Sure, it's cake at the small scale.  When you're trying to go to actual space efficiency becomes a much bigger deal.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I bet I could get to space with a cardboard tube
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wouldn't try carrying a payload, but space is easy
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Orbit?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: people get to space even without rockets
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no, not orbit obviously
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah.. space without orbit is a brief sightseeing tour. :P
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it wouldn't have any guidance
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I was crazy into planes as a kid, I won a paper airplane contest in Washington DC at the Air and Space Museum. 
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I wasn't aware such a thing existed, Wilmar.  Cool.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: That is cool, Wilmer. I have been to that museum before.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: It was a kids thing, but I was proud of myself, as a kid and all.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: As you should be. What an awesome thing to win. A little envious. lol
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I had literally the best paper airplane designs, I studied wind resistance and paper airplane manuals until I came up with my own design.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Compress this drive to save disk space, is this a good idea? any cons
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Much slower.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: Whoah, that is so interesting. No wonder you won, that is a lot of effort.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: As I got older I got into Quantum Physics, big time.  I read up on the topic as much as I could, but then I got really discouraged in school.  Started doing linguistics, and now I'm just a crazy conspiracy theorist.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Slower hm better then not do that
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah, math kicked my butt in school too.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not necessarily slower
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I tried to BitLock my previous installment of win7, and totally fffed it up. I could even copy over stuff when inserting my drive into someones pc
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I don't know why my 'word wrap' length keeps getting reset...
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Hence im asking if compressing will have side effects
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: reading compressed data can be faster if the ratio of your disk read time to decompression time is greater than 1
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Cackle: CPU overhead, mostly
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: mathematical
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: So Fiendish Compressing a 2TB Toshiba hard drive at 7200 rmp is a good idea?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but your CPU spends most of the time doing nothing anyway
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle rapidly nods twice at Long Time Fiendish, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: disk compression is probably always a reasonable idea
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: see also memory compression
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I like to go into windows controll panel and geek out on every setting possible, some are very hazardous though
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think most SSDs already compress data in hardware
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so you might not see any actual benefit if the drive is already doing it
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is there an easy way to get an item's name with color codes intact?  invdata will do it for everything in your inventory but I'd rather avoid all of the output from that if possible and just target a specific item.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghaan Tech: I used to be a hacker but then I took an arrow to the knee.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nods, I guess if i had a 40gig drive and windows 98 like back in the day, then compress drive will be most suited
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: for what?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: So compress drive option in windows 7 is redundant
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Heh, if I tell you, you'll probably just yell at me :P  I'm making a new inventory manager and I want to be able to display the item with full color codes.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Cackle: only if you know your drive is already doing it in hardware
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I can do it by pulling pieces from invdata, but that uses a lot of output and I'd like to be a bit more efficient if possible
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: if you're making an inventory manager then you probably want all the data from invdata anyway don't you?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Thanks Fiend, very interresting at the least
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yes, but I will have that data through other means and depending on the situation I may want to get info for just one particular item
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: And I don't yell at people for making things that interest them.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I know :)  I was just kidding.  
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Help invmon says that invitem output should match the output from invdata.  Unfortunately, it appears to do that for everything except the color codes.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I think most viruses targets .exe files,   so to combat that i compress all my games,software etc that contains .exe in its folder, with 7zip. I use 7zip in fastest compression ratio to render virus attacks zero
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: you mean invmon shows colors instead of the @ codes?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Viruses cant possible infect zipped files
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: No, sorry for the confusion.  The bottom of the invmon helpfile talks about invitem and says that the format for invitem is the same as in invdata.  The invdata format includes color codes so I'd expect invitem to do the same but it doesn't
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it does say "The format is the same as in invdata, except it is prefixed by {invitem}, does not break down color codes"
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Oops.  I'll go crawl away now.  
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, you still get the color information
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: that's embarassing :)  Yes, I'm on mushclient
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and I assume you're doing this in a plugin?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: eventually it will be a plug-in, but for now I do my development on the main mushclient script
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: your invitem trigger will call a plugin script function. that function receives an input variable containing the color style runs for the entire line
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I think I figured out my Wrapping problem, I had 'Auto Wrap to Window Size' selected.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I have an invitem trigger now, but I'm not certain what plug-in script function you are referring to
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when you put it into a plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: would it work differently as a plugin?  
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ah, OK
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wherever your script function is. hell, I don't care. usually it goes in the same plugin for compartmentalization
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Fiendish - That 8 line spam text that noticfies me when aard is doing backups and i dont must touch anything, how do i deactivate that?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also, if you're working in the script file anyway I don't really see why you don't just start in a plugin, but that's me
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway back to my advice
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: do you understand what a color style run is?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Cackle: deactivate what
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Nope, but I'd be happy to read info on it :)
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: what is the MUSH equivalent of DeleteLine()  ?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Dont touch anything, aard is backing up
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Wilmer: ask again in 10 minutes
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Cackle: you want it to not tell you that quitting mushclient in the middle of a backup would be a bad idea?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Even if im in battle it says it will continue after batlle
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's correct
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I dont want to see the message ouput.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: are you just referring to the string with color] codes?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Cackle: ask me again in 10 minutes
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: No, but I can get you there if you want
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: I'm going to give you some reading material...one sec
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: thanks, I appreciate it!
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: search this page for the phrase "style run" http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=triggers
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: though you'll probably want to read the whole section on "Trigger scripts"
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Got it.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I dont mind backing up daily, its just thats its so random even before i enter password, or spooks me out of the blue, I would like to think I have total controll over the game and client im playing , and dont want intrusive messages spoiling my gaming supremacy
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: after you've read that, read this https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Color-Functions
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Cackle: you are very easily spooked
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: it takes like not even 2 seconds to backup?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Guess my wimpy is set to high
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Cackle: how long does it take to backup for you?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Shotgun: longer if you enable compression
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Thanks again.  Those references look very promising.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: i dont want to see the message of backing up...
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Cackle: put a request on the github repo
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: how do i enable it?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Cackle: I'm happy to add that as an option
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Shotgun: mapper help search compression
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: like instant Fiendish, thats not the problem, the intruding text showing its updating is spoiling my user experience
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Thanks Fiendish !
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle looks at Long Time Fiendish and chants, "H! E! R! O!... Long Time Fiendish is my Hero!!!"
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Cackle: but I need you to go to the github repo and put an issue for that
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Cackle: because I'm not going to get to it first and I might forget
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Wilmer: what was your question?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Wilmer: What does DeleteLine do?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: That would be a problem for today, since im on prepaid cellphone data with 8 megs left of ointernet, sure in the future im more gladd to help you in that regard
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Cackle: just this once I'll add it for you
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and possible again also the next time
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: im so humbled by yourt help
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think Wilmer died
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: hello, sorry I was doing a quest.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth can't seem to stop chanting "his name is Wilmer" over and over again. WTF?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: i guess it will be tweaked in 1921 Fiendish? since i aard on limited data i dont wanna go and spend precious megabytes
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Cackle: maybe 1922
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Anyways i feel i took to much of your time ranting about minor issues, thanks though for you help here on aard, you are really a good persom
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Cackle: but if you ask for just that file I can point you to it when it's done
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle rapidly nods twice at Long Time Fiendish, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Wilmer: you sked a question about something, but you didn't say what you're trying to do
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Wilmer: you have about 12 minutes before I leave to go home and do laundry
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: less now
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I asked what the MUSH equivalent of DeleteLine() was, which I use in Mudlet to remove spam.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what does it do?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Deletes a from the game
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: does it accidentally a from the game?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, it deletes a line
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: how do you make use of it?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Put it in a trigger for instance
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Beginning of a Line substring, send DeleteLine() to have it vanish
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: You want to gag something?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Like gag the tech-channel (without turning it off)
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I can give you two ways
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: he wants to gag something annoying like heals in epics
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there is a DeleteLines function in MUSHclient https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=DeleteLines
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Sometimes when I have an alias, I want to see less information because I already know what I'm doing.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also in recent versions of the aardwolf mushclient package from the url in my finger info there's a plugin that adds the ability to gag lines
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and then they'll also be gagged in the communication log as well
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Mush - Trigger - Omit from output setting works like a charm to gag
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: You can also use the omit from output option as Cackle says
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but it will not work on channels in recent versions of my mushclient package
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Ok, but I'm not really trying to gag chat, I think the DeleteLines will be what I'm looking for
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Up to you
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wait
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean, it will work on channels, but not on the communication log window. *sigh*
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: that's fine.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyone else? you got 2 minutes :)
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and then I'm gone forever
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: until later
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: heh forever meaning a fwe hours usually
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: how was your day? :P
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle waves "Goodnight" to Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: great. I sped up my mercurial bundle parser by about 12x
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: nice
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *POOF!* Where did Long Time Fiendish go? he's nowhere to be found.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: nice
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: What to do if ID number from items during id <item> just disappears?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: must be a trigger or plugin gagging it
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: It happened after I had unexpected restart from router, game disconnected during combat, after that well everything works just as before, no errors on client startup, but I cannot see ID's on items, I didn't have any gagger enabled
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: could be a plugin gone awry from disconnect in the middle of a procedure.  did you restart mush?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Yep couple times now
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Oh wait I see now, umm missed it after restart
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: though another issue, variables seem not to work, it's as using Expand variables is not turned on in alias
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: When it's turned on >_>
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: paste the line thats not working?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: You do not see a earbag2 here. (It's earbag2 which is variables, in alias Expand variables is tagged on)
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: You do not see a earbag2 here. (It's earbag2 which is variables, in alias Expand variables is tagged on)
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: well fuck
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Language, please.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: 2 @ to make an @
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: That toop
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You're looking for @gearbag2?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: @ is only for variable
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, yeah, that's what you're looking for...
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: if I turn off Expand variables for working alias which is exactly same just different ID's they work, but this one don't something must've broke with sudden disconnect in combat
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle calls out Amazonite on her blatant troll fail.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: "get 1051432834 @gearbag2" That's the command in alias with expand variables turned on, for exactly same command, majority of others so far seem to work fine, is there any plugin related to variables that I can try to reinstall?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: do you use Execute rather than world in alias
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: all of them are execute
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Copy that alias, let me take a quick look at it.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Send in note or pastebin it or something.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I don't see how the fault is in alias though, since I use exactly same command lines for different alias, they are all related to weaponloading for different levels... and others with exactly same command with other id's work... the problem seems it doesn't wanna enable variable in alias
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Shrug. Sometimes people miss things though they're certain they're right. Or maybe gearbag2 isn't defined anymore.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Ok, so what I tried, the old alias for 231 weaponset works which has same command lines as one for 251's, I make new alias, copy/pasted 231 command lines (which work on current/old alias) but on new alias it won't work
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: Khannon do you have eqdb loaded? run eqdb redresh
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: refresh*
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: eqdb is disabled or I removed it I think
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: eqdb not loaded at all
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: it's the only plugin ever giving me hassle about inv/containers, can't think of anything else. wait for fiendish or send him a note
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or listen to the people actually trying to help. Fiendish isn't the only one with MUSHclient knowledge...
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: https://pastebin.com/0bKAfi8S - I don't know if it works, never used pastebin, but that's alias input
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Ignore the numbers I changed them :p
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I was referring to the entirity of the alias. As in open up aliases, select the alias, click copy, then go from there. I need to see the options in the alias that are ticked, too.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not worried about numbers, heh.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Enabled, Expand Variables are tagged, only from right side, Execute (rest are default)
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But here's a thought. Does it work if you change it to script and then change the lines to: Execute("get 12345678 " .. GetVariable("gearbag2")), etc?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: (and disable expand variables when you do that)
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I can try it, but why does it work for all others? and why the ones working currently don't work when I make new alias with currently working input
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I couldn't tell you, to be honest. But there is probably something missing that you don't realize.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Not sure if I got it right, but still same not working
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Is your alias name set up correctly?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: https://pastebin.com/QcTZVpvr
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: That's alias copy
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: with changes
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And that doesn't work?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: You do not see a earbag2 here.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: too long to write player name sometimes, I may just throw in a letter and pass via a 1 letter alias
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Er, then you seem to have two aliases with the same name somehow.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The changes you made should not be throwing back @gearbag2
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Go to aliases, and choose "Find" and type in your alias name
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: heh I can't type alias to tech it attempts to execute it :o
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Because you don't have it anchored.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't want you to type alias to tech, though.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: And no there's only one alias for the one I put up pastewin
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Very odd, because the one you gave me would never return that output.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Possible you have a plugin overriding it, then?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: But I'm on the side of less automation, because there is always someone better at automating, and I'm a noob at scripting.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I wouldn't know, it's same why exactly everyother wload alias works, and not this one
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: and if I paste them to new alias they gave me this not working input
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Try closing MUSH and reopening?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Did that 5 times.. no change... maybe PC restart altogether...?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im a little confused - this is sending to 12 which is script right..  but i see a mix of Execute() and raw text
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That may help.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: this is basically Arci changes he can explain why :>
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Endymion: True, but it shouldn't kick back the @gearbag2
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: brb restarting pc
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Which, the alias itself is still kicking bag @gearbag2.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: How can I use Nick Gammon's Playing_Detector to cast a spell if I'm playing, and if I'm not in combat?  I'll download a combat_detector plugin if I need to.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i was under the impression that Expand Variables was used in send to World
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Execute works as well.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ahh, but if he's using GetVariable...
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Wilmer: I'm not familiar with it, but you can change your battle prompt to show when you're in battle.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He's using Script for the one you saw.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: that seems extremely inelegant.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Which, he needs to add the Execute to the raw text, too.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Wilmer: What I mean is that you can change battle prompt to something like [In combat]
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or you can use GMCP to detect your character state.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Yeah, GMCP is the direction I'm getting at.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Hang on, let me test something I have from Mudlet
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: well restart didn't help :(
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: not sure how to help khannon on this..  if i do \\\SetVariable("gearbag2", "bag aardwolf") then make an alias "dww" which sends to World "get x earbag2" with Expand variables checked, then mush sends "get x bag aardwolf"
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: \\\SetVariable("gearbag2", "bag aardwolf") then make an alias "dww" which sends to World "get x @gearbag2" with Expand variables checked, then mush sends "get x bag aardwolf"
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Khannon: On the command line, type \\\print(GetVariable("gearbag2"))
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: apologies on that
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Endy, it's only the one alias he's had issues with. All his others, set up the exact same way, seem to work.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I get variable input in return for if I type it
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So it's correctly pointing to your gearbag2?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you should be seeing the name of your gearbag2.. mine shows "bag aardwolf"
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Well I like to use Id's so I get id for input
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ok i didnt quite understand what you mean.. so you get the bag id printed
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: interesting, I can do "id <bag alias>"
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: but when running that print I get nil
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its not alias, its variable set in mush
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Need to go check on clothes in the dryer, back in a few.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: tested all the other aliases with same input before trying changes, they all seem to work, except this one, and as I said, if I make new alias with ones that work atm, they don't work...
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: right I have variables set that I use in some mush aliases
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: tried with those too
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: sorry, just trying to learn
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: looked interesting
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: hmm ok the same input for 271 also don't work, seems it's 251/271's that don't work while others with same input work
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: khannon is this in a plugin or just mush aliases window?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: mush aliases window
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Truth be told, an alias like that, I'd just have one specific one, and then script the rest in it.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: For instance, I have an alias for bag1/bag2/bag3/bag4/bag5/bag6/bag7 -- I know what goes in each one, so it doesn't matter the order, I just type 'get <item> bag1' and it works.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I need to do that for my daggers, too, but been lazy.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Well, I don't think any alias will work for variables atm, the new one, I'll try
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Heh, so I changed gearbag2 to different variable, the input for not working is still gearbag2
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Do a find for @gearbag2 in your aliases, then, and check them all.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: if I check them all, what I'm supposed to find?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: So if I change variable in alias, any alias, it doesn't actually save any changes to alias
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: variable based changes
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: How many aliases contain @gearbag2?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: a lot, it holds my aardgear (weapons/armors)
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Heh, I removed alias, it doesn't even save the remove
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yep if I type it
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: ... Type 'alias' and see if it exists there...
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I suspect you've typed 'alias wload251' before...
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: It doesn't show in list (mush list)
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Not in 'alias' list neither
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm not talking about MUSH alias, but MUDside alias.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No eq plugins?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: nope eqdb is not loaded
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not just that one, but any eq plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Nope I have no eq related plugins
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What operating system are you on? Windows?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: win7
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Next step would be to start removing non-gameload plugins to see if one of them is causing it, unless you know how to search multiple files for phrases.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Even after client closing/open the removed alias still triggers
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: While not even on list of aliases neither mush/aard
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It makes me now suspect it's in a plugin somewhere, then.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Which means you'll need to open the plugins and search for it, or remove non-stock-loaded plugins one-by-one to find the culprit.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Bah, I want a newer, better email client. :\
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Can't believe this thing happening over one disconnect huhh
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: cant believe.. I bet that is hard to believe
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Try installing a new MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: sooo. I found somekind of workaround for temporary, if I rename alias even add 1 new letter infront it seems to work lol
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: well duh, alias is completely different if you change anything from aliasname
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: Alias is an exact match, if you add something to make it not match it won't fire anymore..
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: You guys haven't exactly followed my issue I think :P
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: not really. but we are happy you found workaround :D
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm seriously debating subscribing to ProtonMail.. $5 a month, secure email, custom domain, 5 email addresses, 200 labels... or could go $30.00 for 20GB storage, 10 custom domains, 50 addresses... hmm.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: or go zoho, if you have a single domain
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Zoho makes no mention of secure encrypted emails.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Proton specializes in that.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: use a client for that
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Why?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Proton doesn't require a client.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: there is no such thing as secure only less insecure
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: End-to-end Encryption, zero access to user data, so Proton doesn't have access to my user data.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: not requiring a client can work in 2 ways: 1. a plugin in  browser - I wouldn't install one, thank you very much. 2. the certificate on the server side - that's so unsecure that I'd preffer not using secure email
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: https://protonmail.com/security-details
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It may not completely eliminate security flaws, but it's the most secure email.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: All user data is protected by the Swiss Federal Data Protection Act (DPA) and the Swiss Federal Data Protection Ordinance (DPO) which offers some of the strongest privacy protection in the world for both individuals and corporations. As ProtonMail is outside of US and EU jurisdiction, only a court order from the Cantonal Court of Geneva or the Swiss Federal Supreme Court can compel us to release the extremely limited user information we have.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: you do realize that any client that can use pgp, for example, works the same? :)
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: also, I don't find the details on how it encrypts the data
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Obviously you didn't read the page, then.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I see a description of public key encryption, with the same technical detail as wikipedia (actually lower) :)
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Also, self-destructing email messages.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: where is the key stored? how does it encrypt the message? 
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: and by key, I mean the private key. where does the attackment, for example, get encrypted? if on the client side (browser?) how does it access the key? does it require a password to access a local store?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Perhaps you should try reading the page and any FAQs it has.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Proton has its own VPN too, for subscribers. Hmm.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Never asks for personal data, either.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Is there a version of MUSHClient that runs on the ARM architecture?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Do you have Windows on ARM?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you have Windows for ARM, it's possible that I could cross-compile MUSHclient to run on it
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I have tattoos on my arm, but I guess that's a different matter.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: do you have windows tatoos on your arm?! :)
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient runs in Windows and platforms that can run WINE
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: Windows tattoos, I like it. Nice. lol
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I hear that it is possible to run wine on Raspbian, but I cannot believe it would be tolerable.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Liber: Yes. Microsoft paid me $25,000 to advertise Windows on my forearm.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: that must be some forearm! :p
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: $25,000 sounds nice.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://www.theverge.com/2016/12/7/13866936/microsoft-windows-10-arm-desktop-apps-support-qualcomm
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: If you did not get a usb port in your arm uou got hosed.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: They didn't tell me HOW I should, so I got the blue screen of death tattoo.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: haha! Nice.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Well it could be interesting to try to deploy MUSHClient to a Pi running Win10 IoT. I will think about sacrificing one to the cause.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: what's the best way to keep a client updated between multiple computers? Dropbox still? 
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Pretty much, or if you're keeping it at home, use your own network.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Lasher and IMMs - For or the trouble I caused, i mean no harm, Im here really to help out. Enough of that drama, I wish you  A good time mudding and forgive me for all my previous mistakes please.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Unfortunately, that doesn't hold water.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not an offense to you, but people have caused trouble so much in the past, and have said the same exact words.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Only to cause the same trouble again and again.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I can gauntee you Arci im not one of them to do the same mistakes over and over and over and over agin.................
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's fine and dandy, but words are just words. Instead of making promises like that, should just be saying "I apologize for my actions, I realize they were wrong." and leave it at that.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm not saying you're not sincere. But we've had people like Advenchurer, for example, that promised to be good, and decided being good wasn't good enough for him.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Also, probably the wrong channel for this, anyway.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nods, but it isnt like i woke up this mornong and decided to follow ALLAH for example. For the last 2 months I was alreasy a changed Person , and answered questions on numerous channels all day long. you dont realize it because you dont have TABS on me. but i really am a changed player for months now . realy lol >?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: This is tech channel, Cackle, not gossip.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: i try my best for months now ARCI
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sure. We won't forget how you learned a newbie was seeking their corpse, and you went to where it was at, waited for them and pk'd them for a cheap pk simply because you could. :P That was within the last two months. ;) But enough of the chat here. Does belong on gossip, but I don't follow gossip. Too much of a cesspool.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But best of luck to you. :)
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: What's the mush plugin that highlights CP, GP or quest mobs when scanning?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: Also... How do I turn off these tags that are showing with the new update? for example... {invitem}1827192388,MGH,a crow talon,101,5,0,-1,-1 or {invmon}4,1827192388,-1,-1
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: tags inv
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I think?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Oh wait, if it's invmon type 'invmon'
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: inv tags are already set off and tags invmon does not seem to be recognized
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Not tags invmon, just invmon
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: I get no response. let me try killing something and see if it pops up
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Just drop something and see
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: still there
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: IDK then
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish yawns.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: invmon
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: eh
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: Hi Fiendish!
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: yeah... it's still showing but it's not the end of the world
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what's still showing
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: just typing 'invmon' doesn't seem to have any affect
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: seems unlikely
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: did you make an alias over it?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: for example... {invmon}3,1827083704,-1,-1
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it works for me
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: checked alias and didn't see anything
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so you either have an alias blocking it or you're typing it wrong
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there really isn't a third option :)
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If I remember correctly, Bast's EQDB uses invmon.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: since I assume you're not typing it wrong, there must be an alias
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So does BluMalice's EQualizer.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: Masaki equalizer too?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: hmmm... that would probably be it.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: is that why it's not letting me turn it off?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Probably
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: hey Fiendish how do you explain, MUSH alias, I removed it, but it still shoots, earlier I got disconnected from aard during combat and when I came back 2 of my aliases stopped working, both had to do with variable. I managed to get one working again after removing, recrecting it, but other one is currently removed but when typing alias it still shoots.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I think it turns itself back on.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: gotcha. so my options are stop using the masaki eq plugin or just live with invmon tags?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Khannon: this sounds complicated. I'm going to need more details from you, but I'm super tired and getting into bed. is this morning or evening for you?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: it's late night, i'm catching drag otherwise I'd be gone already
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: There's some info in tech channel history with people trying to help
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Khannon: it's near 2am for me and i'm dyin. Catch me on tomorrow and we can talk about it if it doesn't magically fix itself
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: don't think it will, I restarted client multiple times, and PC, the aliases that I removed is still shooting :P
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lundfu: if the plugin were working correctly you wouldn't be seeing those tags. maybe reinstall the plugin?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: No rush, I for moment it seemed I can't make any new aliases, but that's not case I just can't make that particular alias
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Khannon: then def catch me tomorrow and we'll figure it out
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: cool. I'll mess around with it. Thank you!
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Sure
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Lundfu: any plugin that turns on tags should know that it needs to hide them too
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lundfu: if you can't manage it, catch me tomorrow too
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: I appreciate it! Have a good night!
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: later
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FireFlower Brigid Tech: does anyone know how to get access to the output window on mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What is it you're trying to do?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FireFlower Brigid Tech: someone told me that ther'es a way to have a plug in window appears as a tab in mushclient, but I'm not seeing that for me. I looked it up and looks like it may be a plug in?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FireFlower Brigid Tech: so basically i just want ot be able to review text/edit/etc
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Are you talking about one of bast's plugins?
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: The notepad window? 
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FireFlower Brigid Tech: hmmm, I think that may work? i thought it was called output window, but notepad sounds promising lol
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: You can add a notepad window under the Window menu item, but it is a totally separate window.
T3/r7/2017-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FireFlower Brigid Tech: hhm, awesome, i'll check there and see if that's what I'm wanting. thanks!
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Intel announces new CPU for $1999, which is more expensive than most complete high end computers.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: didn't they have the itanium line for that? I'm curious if anyone actually buys Itanium anymore (since the line is not dead YET)
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the only people who buy itanium are previous buyers of itanium, since it takes a lot of special effort to develop for
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I doubt that anyone made efforts to develop for it specifically. I've seen some analysis that the lack of an optimized compiler was one of the reasons for it's failure (not the most important, since the cheaper AMD x64 alternatives, and then Intel's own 'clones' of that were the main reason)
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: is there something that has to be turned on or off when using the browser Chrome so can look at guardina mapss?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: how can I remove the extra information when I get a new item? like {invitem}1827338867,M,a Magic Mushroom,1,14,0,-1,-1{invmon}4,1827338867,-1,-1
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: I think that might be tags, try just type tags
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: well thats no use
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: tags off
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: no all tags off and still appears...
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: I dont know, maybe look at config all
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ascun Tech: invmon
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: invmon command
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: yes thank you :D
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Morning folks.  I recently installed S&D and the mapper extension, and seemingly at random something in S&D will list all areas.  I dunno if it's something I set up wrong or just that I have an old version of the client (still haven't updated from 1825) or something else
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: Raavus: When you connect you mean?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah, maybe also at other times.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've been told that S&D lists areas at connect
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: weird. It's supposed to do it when you connect. Never seen it happen other times
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I don't remember 100%, so it may just be when I connect.  Any idea why it does that?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Mique: please don't advise players to turn all tags off. (Rastlin don't turn all tags off just to disable one of them)
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: If one tag is showing, then whatever script was supposed to consume it isn't doing that anymore, but if you turn all the other tags off too then all the other scripts that rely on other tags will stop working.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which is a pretty hefty side effect
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Oh is that why I see <curlybracket>rname<curlybracket> in front of every room name?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: There's no 100% reliable way for a script to be able to deactivate tags when they aren't needed anymore. Many scripts try their best to turn their tags off when they get disabled, but there are still cases where it's impossible.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Generally speaking, tags only get turned on by a script that wants to use them.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: And every script that wants to use them will hide them from the output so you _should_ never see them.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: And if you do see them, then something is wrong.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: This stuff is why I don't even use channel tags anymore and switched channels to being GMCP-only in recent versions of the aardwolf mushclient package
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: thanks for the explanation Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Someone would switch to their phone and suddenly start seeing tags everywhere.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Mique: with all that said, if someone says they're on their phone it's probably ok to tell them to turn tags off.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Because phone clients don't tend to have those advanced scripts.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: So, how do I fix whatever's wrong and cuasing me to see rname?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Well you could turn off rname specifically
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Doesn't bother me, just worried I might be missing some functionality.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: tags roomnames off, but my next quesiton will be whether you had a script that might have turned them on that you then removed
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I don't think I've removed anything.  And I'm reasonably certain I've been seeing them since I first started playing again.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Let me see if any of my plugins activate it. one sec
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: k.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do you use the ascii map plugin?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I have it running, but I barely look at it.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok but does it work?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: does it show room names?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: right-click on it. do you see a menu option for show room names
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah, it's checked.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what happens if you uncheck it and then check it again?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Still seeing rname.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: really
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i don't
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yep.  If all it's used for is the ascii map and that's working, I'm content.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: if i uncheck and check it back on
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: rname is gone
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: i have to "walk" or do something in order for it to show stuff again
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah, I see it on look, speedruns, etc.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: hmm. inconsistent
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (you should never see tags)
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: yeah. if i'm standing still
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Lobisomem: are you seeing tags?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: then uncheck, then check, ascii map AND rname are gone
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: no i'm not seeing tags
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah, s'why I asked.  But like I said it doesn't interfere with anything and the ascii mapper seems to be working, so.. not a big deal?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Lobisomem: if you're not seeing tags then you're not talking about the same thing :)
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lobisomem Tech: oh heh. sorry
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Heh.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Raavus: kind of a problem though
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: One sec
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: np.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: looking into the code
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Raavus: are you using my ascii map or bast's?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I assume mine, but I have to check
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Uhm.. not sure how to tell?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: uhhh.heh
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Author Fiendish?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Where?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ctrl+Shift+P
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Ah, author multiple, but i see nothing with 'bast' in the plugin list.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: author multiple?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: checkversion?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: r1825
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ah ok
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Haven't gotten around to updating.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: i'll look at the history for that plugin then. sec
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Raavus: I think you can just turn roomname tags off
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Ok.  What was the command for that again?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: tags roomnames off
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't think anything is using them
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Cool, thanks.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Ascii mapper still seems to work, so.. *shrug*
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: took me a while to find the right point in the code history, but that's what I wanted to check
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you must have had them activated from before but nothing uses them now
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Is there a way to search the mapper for a room name to get its room#?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: mapper find
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Isn't it parenthesis when you type mapper find <room name>
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Hrm, not finding a room I've been to (entrance to the seals of the kingdom, in Kingsholm.)
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Oh, there it is.. maybe it was weirding out about spaces.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Hrm.. I have an alias for recall that involves some item moving around, and I'd rather not duplicate for other aliases I have that recall first (rt = runto, rest = go sleep on a cot, refill = refill my drink, etc.)  Is there any way to make all of them use my 'r' alias (recall) to get back to recall?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Actually, would expanded variables work for executing commands?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: If I just put all the commands into a variable called <at>recall and then executed '<at>recall' and whatever else in the other commands?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Ah, that does work.  Nevermind, I'm sorted.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: can i change the colour of player attacks against me?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what color is it normally?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: red like usual mob attacks
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but mobhits doesn't work?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: colorset mobhits
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: ah ok i see thanks
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: tr yit
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: try it
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Hey Fiendish did you have chance to catch up the alias issue I mentioned yesterday?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Khannon: remind me
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: something about an alias not working?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Particular alias not working and can't actually remove it literally, It's gone from MUSH alias list, but if I type alias it still shoots. And no it's not alias in aard side.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what is the alias?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: https://pastebin.com/WJXz3EqS
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: it's funny I can't type that particular alias into chat, it will try to shoot alias...
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: colourset mobhits changes the colour of player hits aswell
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: This one is currently working one, if you remove t from alias that's the actual alias that doesn't work and is removed, but still tries to shoot it
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: The actual problem was, alias refused to play variable, it would just give me input as if expanded variables wouldn't be on
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: From that problem it landed to current problem it doesn't seem to get removed literally
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so wload251w?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: does it have a name?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this says tmpry, does that one have a name too?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I can type other similar aliases, wload231w, wload200w, but this particular one shoots and I can't type it
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: That's just labeled for temporary so I remember the problem :p
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: the alias I pastebinned works, but exactly same alias name without 't' won't work
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: This is what I get for typing w'load251w: You do not see a earbag2 here.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: w?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: without ' inbetween
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I can't type alias to chat, it tries to shoot alias :D
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess next time you should anchor your aliases
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type this-->  \\\Debug('summary')
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Anything I'm looking for there?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there should be a link that says Aliases
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: clicking it will list the world aliases
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there will also be a link next to each plugin that says Al, clicking each of those will list aliases for the plugins
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is wload251w anywhere in there?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Not in alias list
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I guess I have to check all plugins separate
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeh
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: you could also search your world/plugins folder for that string, that might be faster than checking every plugin manually
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also true
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you know how to do that
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: How could it possibly end up getting mixed into plugin alias anyway and why would it shoot alias if I simply type it on chat?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you make a regex alias and don't anchor it
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Well, I went through half the plugins list that would make half sense to get stuck on, I gotta get dinner, I'm pretty sure I'll hit the end with plugins list though
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when was the last time you restarted mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: The first time I found problem with alias was yesterday I disconnected middle of combat, router doing random restarts itself, it just happened to be that I was using alias just as I connected back and then found out it didn't work etc.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah. have you closed mushclient since then?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: But I restart MUSH once everyday
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Or more...
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I restarted MUSH like 10 times yesterday, today I haven't restarted since I logged on
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type this --> \\\for k,v in pairs(GetPluginList()) do for l, w in pairs (GetPluginAliasList(v) or {}) do   Note(GetPluginAliasInfo(v, w, 1)) end end
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: send me the output
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I found w'load251w in Aardwolf backup
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: w/o '
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in what?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Well it's called Aardwolf in world plugins...
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I mean world folder
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so it's in your world file?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Yes, worlds>Backup>Aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is that the world that's currently active?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: How do I know that? I mean yes Aardwolf is active world
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "How do I find out?"  "I'm glad you asked. type \\\print(GetInfo(54))"
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: G:\MUSHclient_ver1870\MUSHclient\worlds\Aardwolf.mcl
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: So yes it's active world
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Well, I guess it's still in Backup though..
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes or no?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's in the backup. is it in the non-backup?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Well no, that would look like G:\MUSHclient_ver1870\MUSHclient\worlds"\Backup\Aardwolf.mcl" so I guess it's not currently active
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: It's in the backup
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Damm ok I gotta leave this later I'm dying of hunger
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: anybody know how to resize the font inside S&D gui? mine got small somehow
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: xreset gui ?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: xreset isn't a command
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and right clicking in the window doesn't bring up options?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: xset reset gui is the command, and the font stayed the same
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: How did you manage to change it in the first place
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: that's a great question to which I have no answer
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Don't suspect anything at all?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: I assume it was some conbination of mouse clicking somewhere and possible keystrokes is all I can say
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: are there no buttons on the corner of the mini window you can open?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Only the s&d gui window's font changed?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: I have ? f B ^
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: yes only S&D
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Very weird.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Under the Window menu, what's listed at the bottom?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Mush's Window menu
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: Aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: It's listed as #1? And nothing else in there?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: correct
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Good. Because Aard IS number 1!
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Looking at the plugin, the fonts are hardcoded. Unless you changed them, I have no idea how it happened in the first place
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Unless you somehow deleted the "Lucida Console" font
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: hmm, it was fine this morning. haven't taken a campaign in like 6 hours, and now it's like this
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Tried to close/open mush?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: yah
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Or reinstall plugin?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: trying to do that on a few now
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: although I finished my cp so now the window is empty :P
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo acks!
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Did you fix it with that gq? :p
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Hrm.. is there a way to setup mud-side speedwalks within an area?  F.ex, to get to the seals in kingsholm?
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: yes!
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Find the room number (walk to the room, mapper thisroom) then you can 'mapper goto xxxx'
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: That's what I've been doing, was hoping to shorten that (considerably.) :)
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's not what he asked.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He said mud-side, not client-side.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Then no.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: mapper help exits
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: mudside you can make aliases but other than that nothing
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can do a client alias of "seals" and then set it to Execute, and put mapper goto xxxx there.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can also complete the area quest, and say 'seals' when you enter the area :D
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah, I guess that'd work too, since I can just put the room# in there.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: tech and thats about it:)
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Area quest is still a bit beyond me, sadly.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And you CAN use the mudside alias, but aliases are limited, and you'd have to do alias seals run 3ses4e whatever, etc.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Yeah.  I think I'll just do a client-side alias with mapper goto.  Thanks tho.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Meh.  This area seems purpose-built to slow down campaigners/questers. :P
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The seals get a lot easier once you do the area quest. Seriously, it is very worth it (and not too tough, really)
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: it's much better when you've done the goal
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Area quest is 55, I'm 42-43.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I will definitely come back and do it once I'm able for future remorts, but for right now I'm stuck on the slog.
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: dont do goals. i dont want competition for global quests
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: That's what I'm here for, Zhalut!
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: i have digital downloads from dvd's  and my options are itune, google play and vudu, what should i choose
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: never did it before
T3/r7/2017-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: anybody?
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: https://pastebin.com/zs87en6H -- download it again. new command: swho on|off, will turn the timer on/off.
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Damn it.
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ignore that.
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: curses, too late!
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: 'curses'? is that like egad or zounds?
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: bazinga
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: yikes!
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Suddenly I feel like I'm trapped inside a mashup of Big Bang Theory and Scooby Doo.
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I feel dirty for saying that
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Big Bang Theory is awful
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ignore raded
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: good decision
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Collared Shala Tech: I recently changed up my client, and when I used to run there wasn't linebreaks between room names, but now there's one sometimes two linebreaks between rooms.  is there a config or setting to button that back up?
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: If you find out the answer to that, I'd love to hear it.  I always get extra lines between room names on speedwalks.
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Collared Shala Tech: hrm
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I expect it's just a change in the way the client parses room names, but.. I couldn't begin to guess how one might go about changing that.
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Hrm.  I have an alias defined so I can do commands like #3 sap to repeat it 3 times.  Is there any way I can set it up so that other aliases can use that functionality?
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: change their "output to" execute not world
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: ie when you make the alias there is a drop down box "Send to", under the main body, that you can choose how it is treated
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Ah, thanks.
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I don't understand why mushclient does this weird 'send to' dropdown list.. seems to only get in the way.  Maybe it's to keep things dead simple and encourage scripting for anything vaguely complex.
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Hrm.  Mapper commands are mushclient-side, right?
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: correct
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I'm having trouble making an alias for mapper find / mapper goto.  I assume I should send them to execute, nto world, but I don't think it's parsing %1 properly.. says 'mapper goto expects a room id as input.'
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: send to execute is correct but it sounds like it's trying to put something other than a number in %1
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Weird, now it works randomly.
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: shrug. Might've typo'd something, iono.
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: wtf is this suppose to be about: Milestone t1r1l200 already exists!
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanij Tech: I'm reading about the xrun_to "issue" 
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanij Tech: is the fix the same? 
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Maybe? You're going to have to be a lot more specific.
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanij Tech: sorry, for the S&D plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What "issue"?  Is the fix the same as what?
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanij Tech: S&D plugin, trying to speedwalk to the destination, the error is - Alias function "xrun_to" not found
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Did you have a traceback earlier, which disabled that function?  (Reinstall plugin and try again)
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanij Tech: just got a traceback error now after reinstalling
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanij Tech: no such column: r.date_added
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You're using an old/unfixed version of the plugin
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: the date_added column was removed ages ago. You can 'finger nokfah' for a fixed version
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The original version of the plugin assumed the room with the earliest date is the "first" room in the area.  That field actually got dropped from the database, as it was otherwise mostly useless, and wasn't always accurate as the first room anyway.
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanij Tech: works, thanks. Just wanted to make sure that was still the way to go. Appreciate the help Metria
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Glad you got it working :)
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanij Tech: Don't suppose there's a plugin to open doors on teh way there eh
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: No, but you can add open door commands to the mapper as cexits
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: mapper cexit open e;e
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: ARGH. double up that semicolon.
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: mapper cexit open e;;e
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanij Tech: Do you have to reload the mapper after you add the cexit
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Nope
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The cexits only fire when the mapper is moving you, though - if you're just walking around by entering n s e w commands, the cexit won't be used.
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanij Tech: I bound the cexits but it didnt open the doors
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: does anyone know if the version of sqlite3 has the ability to use a flat csv file as a table?
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: don't think that's possible
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Pretty sure it doesn't.
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: morn it is in mysql and oracle
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I suggest you use mysql and/or oracle instead, then?
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: you can export to or import from
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ok, will go back to researching it then.
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sqlite is just a database file and an API to manipulate it. If you don't want to use that file format, you're not using sqlite
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: most languages can just call sql-esque commands against a csv
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: sqlite isn't a language.
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: this is true, didn't say it was
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: but there are ways to interact with a csv as if it were a db
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: was all I said ;)
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: True. I don't think Tol defined the problem enough to say if it's possible in this situation
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: yup, no idea waht was being done
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: lots of folks who ask me typically are thinking to use sqlite as a db for a scripting language etc
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: but not all
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: The external tables feature is a complement to existing SQL*Loader functionality. It enables you to access data in external sources as if it were in a table in the database.
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: anyone here familiar with the sharpstracker?
T3/r7/2017-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: no, never
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here for a few
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: is it possible to somehow make blowtorch accept voice commands?
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beednox Tech: Is there a timer on MUSHclient to make my map auto update every second or so?
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: email subject line: YOUR SILENT IS A CLEAR PROOF THAT YOU ARE REAL DEAD.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: russian bride? :)
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Smells of nigerian prince to me.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hlao Tech: having trouble learning to use simple variables and aliases in the aard client.  don't understand online help pages.  anyone willing to help me?
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: absolutely
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: My first question for you is if you could give me a rough idea of what result you would like to accomplish first
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hlao Tech: at the moment just trying to set a target using an alias and catch it with a variable
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: are you thinking of something where when you type a command with some other bit of information after it, that information goes into a variable?
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: My next question is whether you've seen the page that walks through making a targeting alias
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which should really help with that task
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hlao Tech: no, haven't found it, just general examples
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Let me find that link for you
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: hello fiendish, when you finish with hlao, one simple question do you have any plugin for track of your portals and use them easly?
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: I have alias but while leveling keep changing weapon and makes me change all alias...
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Hlao: before I grab the link, I need to ask if you are able to watch videos or detailed images
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hlao Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok 
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I have a variable called eapon that works on several triggers (disarm, f.ex).  So all I have to do is use <at>weapon for everything, and only update it in one place.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this page has a video made by the author of mushclient that walks through the process of making a targeting alias:  http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9616
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: called <at>weapon*
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hlao Tech: thanks, i'll try that
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you prefer a non-video version, http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8084  has a step-by-step
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Just make sure if you're using at-variables to set the alias that uses it to 'expand variables', in the check boxes on the right.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: i was more looking to something that automatically update the dual slot previous to equip portal
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Ahh, sorry.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: create an ingame alias to wield the best weapon
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asperger's Cheezburger Tech: I just use a variabled called dualled. There's very little chance that you can programmatically, 100% of the time, set the value of the weapon itself from it's string description
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: no yours is a good workaround is mine idea isnt possible
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: thanks oyu reavus
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Rastlin: tracking my portals?
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: Rastlin: fyi what you want is possible with invmon tags, though it'll be slightly tricky to implement
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: preferably a window with a list of the portals, and clickable
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: but most important for me right now what for it to read the dual that was removed and requip it after enter
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hlao Tech: thanks guys, got it now, it was mostly the checkboxes that defeated me
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: type 'invmon' to enable invmon tags then see what happens when you equip your portal
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: but most important for me right now was* for it to read the dual that was removed and requip it after enter
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: additionally, help invmon
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: So I want to buy a gaming controll for PC that looks identical then the Playstation version. My problem with it is, that it is a wifi gaming controller, and suspect the batterie life will be aufull. On average how many hours of gameplay can i suspect?
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: way too many variables in that, depending on the manufacturer. If you're buying something off-brand from China, it could even vary from the same supplier. 
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I guess I will shop around for a wired version then.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle gives Fetard a nod, saying, "OK".
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: just get an xbox controller
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I've never heard of a wifi controller but they'll do bluetooth I think
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: IM hesitend about anything batterie operated, it may induce lag
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: then get a wired xbox 360 controller
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i have wireless controller... its so suspicious
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle thanks Bishoujo Raded heartily.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: didnt know there was such a thing.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: batteries won't, wifi might
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: I've been saying that to you since you started asking this question. 
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: https://www.amazon.com/Wired-USB-Controller-Xbox-Black/dp/B01EVFGK4O
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Cool thanks again. Recharcing batteries all the time and worrying about when it will lag or batterie will go weak while busy gaming is a con.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i think they should be fine. just that the paranoia of you suck cuz it being laggy is so annoying
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: where is the most current version of the WW plugins (xtender, spellups, and S&D)?
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Even wifi gaming mouses are laggy and unresponsive some times
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: S&D at https://github.com/AardStarling/Search-and-Destroy-1.3.0
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Those 2.4ghz radio frequancie mouses i mean
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i have 360 wireless controller. navigating the menu is 0.5 behind always. but i cant believe it being the controllers fault. but the paranoia eats my brains slowly.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: fifa 17 menu
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I think you're saying wifi when you mean wireless. I've never heard of gaming controllers/mice that use wifi.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: 0.5 sec behind input
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: you can get like a wifi mouse app to use other devices as a mouse/controller
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I mean not wifi but wireless in general
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: That suck Hwu
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: That wireless controller i was talking about even are a vibrating kind, so that will eat the batteries up real fast. Currently im playing on a wired mous and keyboard, and never had any lag. So wired controller is it then
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Reason why I want that controller asap, is because im currently concentrating on nes/snes/n64/ps1/ps2 games (Hoarded quite a few games), but playing it on a PC keybaord is a joke.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Also my Need 4 speed collection on PC will be awesome
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: My PC games liike X Men Origins - Wolverine,Prototype 1+2,Numerous Assasin Creeds,Batman Arkham city,Deadspace1+2+3,Dragonball Xenovers,Mortal combat Komplete,Injustice Gods Among Us (Ultimate Edition),Resident Evil 6,Spinter Cell Conviction and blacklist,The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim,The Walking Dead 400 Days,WWE 2K16, is a few games I can think of that i own and will be best suited for gaming controller
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: controller + mouse ftw
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: That is a combo I never even thought about Hwu
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: some games wont allow it. try it with tf2
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: see if you like
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: How can you operate mouse when you are mashing buttons with both hands on controller though
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: controller for movement/shooting. mouse for aiming. 
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle nods at __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: left hand holds controller. right hand on mouse
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Nods, nothing beatsmouse aimnig, unless you have some future VR goggles with eye retina tracking
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i switched to left hand shooting just because the damn aim goes away when using mouse for fire
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i have a sound trigger set up to catch tells, and it always worked before but it's studdenly stopped working....though it shows it works in test. the string is "* just sent you a tell."
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: any suggestions to modify for a fix? 
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: close and re-open mush. that fixes 90%+ of my issues
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: did that 2x already
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: sorry, that's all i got
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pananabeel Tech: Have you tried setting up the trigger using the tell tag?
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: im going with no since it's always worked off the line i mentioned 
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pananabeel Tech: It says {tell} before every tell, so your trigger can just catch that. 
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pananabeel Tech: Type tags, it gives you a list. I hope it helps. 
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: perhaps the trigger is working, but sound isnt?  try to echo something inside the trigger to figure out which
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: oh. i know this bug
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: when you have an hilight triggered within the tell, the sound trigger doesnt work. 
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: now, i must claim my tp from fiendish
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: hm.. seems to be ok. i swear there was a problem with highliht messing up sound triggers
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: How do I add an alias in the Aard Mush?
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Or maybe it's a trigger I'm thinking of? I'd like it to perform an action when I get an afk message. 
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered briefly
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh shit
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: errrr oops
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: non-curse channel BAN
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah, sorry. I'll just freeze myself
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: tech is a non-curse channel?
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: that should REALLY not be the case.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wrong
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: tech is a non-curse channel.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it should definitely be the case
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I think swearing should be okay everywhere
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but tech is the most likely thing to cause cursing?
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: cursing only gets in the way of solving problems
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: False
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: sometimes cursing is exactly what you need to come up with a solution
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: this has actually been studied
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so curse to yourself before talking on the channel
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and if you still fail to come up with a solution, come back here and read tech note 7314
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: hence why most big companies allow their tech support staff to cuss as long as they aren't overheard by anyone who isn't also a tech employee.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: yeah I think the audio part is actually what helps.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so typing it might not actually help
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: okay you win fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: if you are doing a multiple line echo to test a trigger do you need to start and end each line with color codes or can you just start the first line and end the last line with them?
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Applecorn Tech: help with MUDClient.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Click the thing. (What do you need help with, specifically?)
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Applecorn Tech: opening prog - Error : Mudclientpref.squilte (forget) is Readonly.  make sure you have access to write.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You installed it under Program Files, didn't you
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Applecorn Tech: yes?
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Don't do that
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Applecorn Tech: install on base of C:/ ?
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Move it someplace you have write access to.  Your desktop works fine, or My Documents. Not a protected directory.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: install it somewhere other than a protected windows directory
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Applecorn Tech: ok.  thx. brb (hope, lol).
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I have a "my programs" directory that I install a lot of my programs in
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I just use Desktop, since it's easy to find if I want to tinker with plugin foolishness
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Applecorn Tech: thx guys.  it works.  :)
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Applecorn Tech: weird, that's where it was installd before.  i haven't playd in 2y though :(
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Glad you got it working :)
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone know the MUSHclient command that will list all plugins with links to aliases, triggers, etc?
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't think one exists.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well...
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can do a search for whatever in all the plugins...
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: most developers have their plugins on github or the sort
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't think that's what he's referring to.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: thats where my mind went, back to doing whatever it is i do
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: fiendish shared it the other day. it was awesome
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: you could just see the plugin in a list, click on its aliases and it would output just the aliases to the main window
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, there's GetPluginAliasList...
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: it was some command into the main window like \\summary something
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: \\\Debug("summary")
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: precicely!!!! thanks, Arcidayne
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Interesting... 
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it doesnt show anything really
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: By the way, install mchelp file... you can do mchelp summary to find it again. :D
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sure it does.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Shows all the aliases for each plugin installed, triggers, etc.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ohhh
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i see now, didnt notice
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yah the output i see on my screen is jibberish. i had to scroll up to see the goodies
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: hey nerds
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: the office i work at was able to up my bandwidth from 3 mbps to 7 mbps.  how do they do that?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: software?  hardware setting?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: A mix
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: help me out
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: i might be willing to asneak into their server room and fiddle a switch
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: but i wobt have access to whatever server software
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: You don't want the increase in bandwidth?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah there's prolly a "turbo" switch on the front of the router
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: i want moar
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if you switch it up/down a few times it keeps going up
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: yes hiw do i activate turbo mode
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: There should be a switch
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but too many times it defaults back to slow.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: you are going to make him break the thing.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: boys have to learn
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: download more ram I heard that helps with internets speed
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne sighs.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: There are apps that will boost your bandwidth by 500%!
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i am downloading that app now
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: fingers crossed
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: maybe i will just tether this s8 running on 700 mhz band 4 getting 20 by 20 and just use the hit spot
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: actually with carrier aggregation ibget more
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: To increase your speed, you have to enable airplane mode on your computer. There used to be a jet mode, but it burned out the computers too fast, so they had to cap it out at airplane. But you need to be careful with it, since it's prone to crashes.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i think airplane mode is too fast for my slow pc, i lost my connection, prolly cause it leaped so far so fast
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: i downloaded a soeed app and it is promoting me to enter my ssn, iant that weird?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, my bad, Endy. I forgot to mention, set it to United mode so it drags it out slowly.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: YES, working great now thank you!
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: any way to not see spellup spam?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: (without impacting bast spellup)
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: help spamreduce
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: thanks shindo !
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: shindo, it doesn't apply to spells cast on myself :(
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mayjeye Tech: Does anyone have any prompts they swear by?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Only things I truly keep in my prompts are double and tells.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: All other information is already set up nicely in stock aardmush.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I need to trim mine down.  Health and all that are in the status bar in teh client.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mayjeye Tech: Splendid advice. Thank you.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Hm, so I have a rt alias for runto that sends me back to recall before everything.  Is there a way I can have the alias check to see if I'm at recall first so as to avoid portal-swap/appearing-spam?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered briefly
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: lies!
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok you're right. I'm lying
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you found me out
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: to be honest, where do you answer to them? 
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that wasn't english
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: can you ask that again, but maybe shuffle some of the words around?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: he meant "answer" as a verb
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: how using gmcp would i check, in an alias, which area i am in?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: gmcp("room.info.zone") using the latest snapshot of the aardwolf mushclient package from my github site
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you might need to require "gmcphelper" first
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: thanks, a nice short answer :P
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: read this: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Using-GMCP
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: specifically https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Using-GMCP#asking-for-existing-gmcp-data
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: ok this is way over my head... the sunspots phenomenon is part of alaska's charm... have you seen the 3 sun or 3 moon phenomenonon the web? that really happens up here.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: thanks, exactly what i needed, now to make it useful to myself
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Igamu: nope
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: can you repeat what you said about how to fix it? i downloaded it but it wont let me run the program to install it. the windows defender pro screen thingy keeps blocking it
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Igamu: ?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know how to fix sunspots in Alaska
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: an umbrella
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Shindo: you might find 'gmcpdebug 1' useful if you're not already familiar with it
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it did what i wanted but now i need to make a table of short area names vs long area names
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Shindo: try 'sendgmcp request area'
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: though you'll only get one at a time :)
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or, I guess parse the output from the areas command
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: anyone maintains an up-to-date addon that keep track of inventory or whats inside container on a separate window? keep getting surprised when my pots run out :(
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sorry, the areas keywords command
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Lunk had a potion tracker
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: BluMalice has a potion tracker
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: finger blumalice, it's called masaki potmon
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe theyre the same person
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: thank you will look
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: they're not :p
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lunk changed his name like every damn day
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: that isnt it.. i said the uhm hehehh you guys.. *smiles* i mean how to i open the Aardwolf_mushclient_r1920
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Igamu: what problem are you having with it?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: windows defender pro screen protector keeps blocking it from opening and when i look at that i dont know how to make an exception or make it so defender pro screen thing y ignores it and  lets me run it as an administrator
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: or just run it at all
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: screen protector?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: it keeps blocking it
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: i can't remember what i did last time
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this is...like...one of those bits of plastic that cover your screen and stop things from scratching it?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: no. its a program that blocks downloads and wont let them run if you dontknow how to get around them. i did once, maby twoce but this time i t wont let me
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/windows/how-turn-on-of-off-windows-defender-3466684/
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: its windows defender pro being cute
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I see
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: What does it say?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: one menent. reading
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also, when was the last time you updated windows defender?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: one moent. i will update it soon
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: virustotal gives the download link a clean score of 0/59 ->   https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/7aec86f48d5a66d1ee4d95cfde23b294098288ae95707f66a542b103773a4571/analysis/1496432900/
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: ooer i found the run anyway button.. now do i turn this off and restart it?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: turn what off and restart what
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: i ran the program anyway. did it copy over this one or is i already set to go?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: im having a nervous breakdown here
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: please don't run the installer while mushclient is already running. windows can't replace executables while they're active.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo tsks at Windows.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: i screwed up.. i alreadydid that. how do i fix it?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: just close mushclient and run the installer again
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: i love you fiendish.. youthe man
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: make a backup first
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I am _a_ man. I think there are a few others.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: Bamboo might be a man
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: off to go play footsy with the computer and make it beg to stay on
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I am grass.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: is there a way for mushclient to remember the position on Main window? not miniwindows.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: have mush on portrait secondary screen but everytime i launch it, it goes into main screen and screws position of mini windows.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's a tricky one
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure it does save details about the main window position, but I don't know if it's capable of remembering which screen
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: how do i figure out i this is the new one or not?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: checkversion
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Rastlin: is there not an OS setting for making apps launch on which monitor?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: Windows normally launch all other apps on the last screen used
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: only mush is being reseted to main screen
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: interesting. but not mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: new apps always open on primary monitor I bealieve
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: how do i checkversion ive typed it in 3 tims and it says i can't do that
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what version of windows?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Igamu: one second
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: no, i close Mozilla or Media player classic on secondary screen and on reopen they go to sec
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: windows 10
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: strange, in my setup it just opens on my seconday when I last closed it there
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Igamu: quit aardwolf, quit mushclient, then reopen it and log back in
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Rastlin: what version of windows?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: mushclient version 5.05 is that right?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Igamu: no
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Igamu cwies
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Igamu: did you maybe not install somewhere else and not on top of the previous install?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: er, 
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: windows 7, Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: r1887
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Igamu: did you maybe install somewhere else and not on top of the previous install?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: i dont know. i will delete this version and ocrap i downloaded the rongwone
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and make a  backup
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: of the whole directory... just in case
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: but my mush is 5.03
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: might that be the differnece?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Rastlin: try this https://stackoverflow.com/a/511735
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Igamu: what do you mean you downloaded the wrong one?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it sounded to me like you had the right one
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: heh. I feel so oldfashioned: 4.98, r1825.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: testing brb
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: which one is the right one to download cos i have all of them mixed up now
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the site in my finger info has the latest one
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you said you had Aardwolf_mushclient_r1920 which is the latest one
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: thanks, works perfect now
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: how can I see the r version?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ursis: checkversion
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: secondary screen an mini windows in place
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: so r1920 is the rightone?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rastlin )
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: indeed 
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know about right, but it is the newest
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Liber: it's fine. plenty of people never update. I happen to know that some people are still using versions so old that they don't report the r number
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: some people don't like to update until they encounter a problem
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Yeah, I can't find a revision number anywhere...
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: usually it needs to be a problem that they can't fix by just restarting mushclient
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Erikson: have you checked your backside?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Egads, that's a MD5 hash!
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Time for an update, I think. I know a guy who knows a guy who will give you a real good price on a shiny new SHA0
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Sweet!
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I have a few for sale
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I bet they're barely even used too.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: okay so i can print gmcp("room.info.zone") but not gmcp("room.area.name") , is there a logical reason or that?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's not room.area.name.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: isn't that just the data structure?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's room.info.name
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: no, that give the roomname while i want the full area name
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That field doesn't exist.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: which is in the room.area data structure
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There is no room.area data structure?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: room.info { "num": 5922, "name": "At the entrance of the park", "zone": "zoo", "terrain": "city", "details": "", 
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: room.info { "num": 5922, "name": "At the entrance of the park", "zone": "zoo", "terrain": "city", "details": "", 
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: "zone"
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: looks like you would need to query Aardwolf.db areas table by uid = room.info.zone to get the full name
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or, you know, pull it from your own table of area keywords.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: yeah that too
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: In theory if you're in the room anyways, you've also already got the area data in the database. A join would be the same performance as doing @areaTable["zoo"] i'd think.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: it's pretty common to not hydrate relational objects by default though, it saves the join on the aard side.  I can see why they would not include it.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: thanks. i have a lot of reading and testing to do now
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: anyone know of a better mud client for iphone than mudrammer? im looking for something like blowtorch cus i liked having buttons. 
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't think it's possible for anything to be better than something with Rammer in the name.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm a bit jealous, actually.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: we can rammer
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: lol well not exactly "better" but one that has other features. specifically  being able to make buttons. since i can only play on my phone it makes it a little easier for me
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meyyday Tech: hello Anyone available for a bit of assistance with customizing chat on the mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: does anyone know if mushclient callbacks like OnPluginBroadcast are available to the main script file, or are those only available in the plugin context?
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oo, room.area DOES exist... but only when you change areas... gonna have to remember that!
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: {Ping to aardmud.org Min: 562ms Avg: 894ms Max: 1266ms}
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Eh, mis, but whatever.
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: thank yous for your help earlier today.. i finallyhave the right version
T3/r7/2017-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyoneknow hot to manually run the MUSHclient updater? Sometimes I see it prompt for an update but most of the time i do not
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: TRY TYPING "PACKAGE UPDATE CHECK"
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: I have a really old version so I don't know if thats how it still works
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Arcidayne: room.area has to be specifically requested. I don't think it ever gets sent automatically.
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: How can I capture the results of typing 'speedwalk' in a trigger.  I'm trying to make a super simplified speedwalk helper.  so when I type 'speedwalks <loci>' I get for example, " One result found, 'yes' to walk there now. "
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I don't want to use that runto thing which doesn't work very well, and doesn't save any time anyways.
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: won't it always start with run ...  so make your trigger only turn on when you  want and turn off when it's done
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanij Tech: runto doesn't save time? 
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: No, maybe, not for me.  I don't like it.
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I guess the biggest problem with it, is that 'speedwalks' list is not up to date, and so half the time it doesn't work.
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: do you not use mapper?
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the queen means are you using mushclient and the mapper?
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: nods that
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Which mapper.  I've got Ascii mapper and BigMap redirector.
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: in mushclient, yes
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: I mean the GCMP Mapper, type mapper help and see what you get
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: GMCP even
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Automatic Mapper by Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: if you're looking for automatic optimal speedwalks with support for custom exits and portal aliases, it's your ticket
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yeah, there is a very good help file that comes with the mapper, you can read it to learn how to do your own runto commands by specifying the room target
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: or you can save yourself from re-inventing the wheel and finger nokfah for S&D, which is a plugin that works with the mapper
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Oh, I didn't even know what I had... Ok, this probably has what I was looking for.
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: I don't personally like S&D but many do, it's worth checking out anyway
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Is anyone else perturbed by the use of 'finger'?
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: legacy term.
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: blame the old timers who migrated from NIX systems where the command came from
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: What's perturbing about it?
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: the Mapper extender?
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: no, the term finger
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: oh wait, yes S&D is the mapper extender... my bad
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Oh..never thought about that! lol
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imparsable HazeKnight Tech: if you have a decent typing speed, S&D is basically useless
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: lol the term finger I assume is a hold over from the name/finger protocol circa 1977
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I used type 90 wpm, but my typing speed has deteriorated with disuse lately
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: whether it's typing speed or macros/aliases... I don't find S&D faster than I am
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I haven't been able to edit individual room colors in the BigMap window.
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah, there's not a good facility for that
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Can someone tell me how to make this work? https://hastebin.com/amorocalal.vbs
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i got confused with my weapons
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: my poly doesnt work at all but dirk from crusader does
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Wilmer: it's not set to be a regular expression but the pattern is definitely one
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you need to check the box saying that it's a regular expression if you want to use them as your pattern
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Hmmm, I had it as regular expression I'll test it that way again
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: When checked as a regular expression it sends input literally.
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know what you're typing
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: 'heal' or 'heal <playername>' for instance.
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you also haven't set the send_to field
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient defaults to sending to world
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: send to script is, I believe, send_to="12"
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I'm receiving another error, now.
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: seems likely
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: https://hastebin.com/lasaxisege.vbs
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do you understand what the error is saying?
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I mean, I have used this type of expression in Mudlet to great effect.
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: My matches is a nil value.
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Mudlet and MUSHclient don't share the same specification
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: right. I'm pretty sure mushclient uses a different name for storing what you're calling matches
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I know, but translating from one to the other is proving difficult, mostly because I've no idea what I'm doing.
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: let me see if I can find the page for you
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you're doing pretty well so far. just a few details here and there
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: go look at page https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=triggers   you'll want to scroll down or search for the words ' Using the wildcard in the "send" box ...'
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I know you're making an alias, but it's pretty much the same
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you could also look at https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=aliases
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it has the same section there too
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I'm not sure that the wildcard is the same thing at all as my ..matches, but I might be able to get it to work.
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure that it is
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I agree with Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: so do I need to make two wildcards to include the space after "heal.. space ..target"?
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You're capturing a pattern; in this case, a word. That is stored into a wildcard, which in this case would be "%1" for MUSH.
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You don't need to, no.
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I'm getting an error for the 'and' value, too.
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Leave your alias written as is (the match= part). Change your send to: if string.len("%1") > 0 then Send("cast 124 %1") else Send("cast 134") end
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Though you could still use if "%1" and "%1" ~= ""
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Ah, now it works, thank you.  
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: is there a way to get all.invis from a container. is this in dead ideas?
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Was so sad last night. My laptop took a nosedive and froze up while closing out MUSH, so I had to do a hard restart. As a result, every single one of my settings got lost. All the default plugins? Corrupted. All my state files? Corrupted. So I had to remember what the stock plugins were and reinstall them all.
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you can leave all invis in by removing detects and get all container
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Unless the keyword has 'invis' in it, you cannot.
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: okay thanks
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: vamps have permanent see invis so nt a solution for me
T3/r7/2017-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hlao Tech: using aardmush, is there a way to limit stored command lines to lines greater than 1 or greater than 2 characters only?
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I just upgraded to the latest version of MUSHclient. I haven't noticed much difference, save the links are now underlined. Anyone notice anything?
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: depends on how long it had been since you upgraded I guess
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: no, I haven't noticed anything since you upgraded mushclient
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: for me it completely changed the database and several other things
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: excellent point. I have the previous version, just one back
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emm snickers with Birdbrain Metria about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zhalut licks Birdbrain Metria.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Emm, interesting. I just replaced the new db with my old db and have no problems
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: well I was upgrading from a version from 2014 or so
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: i accidently deleted the files for to log onhere.. 8P~
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Remind me how to lock and unlock the layout in mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: aard layout locked/unlocked
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Thank you
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zhalut: if you're upgrading with the installer from my website then you don't need to copy your database from anywhere. just install on top of the previous folder.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I installed with the updater the first time
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I installed with the updater the first time; unfortunately, it bonked my MUSH and I couldn't use it
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: But I used the installer from the popup inside the client. Is that different than going to the website?
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: How do I match ^(?:n|s|e|w|u|d)$ %1 doesn't seem to be the key?
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i wonder which is faster, calculating or fetching something from array in js
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: test it 100k times
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: would be easy to do.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And then you would not have to wonder.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: testing would be for geeks. im cool and dont give a crap:{
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal P
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: easy answers only:)
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Why is my variable not working: https://hastebin.com/ijogerakud.xml
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Calculating is slightly faster, but neither will be noticible.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: hm.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Does me telling you that convince you more than proving it in your environment :)?
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i was going for array way. now you've planted a doubt in my mind:|
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: way of the array
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: sounds kung fuish though. and we all agree that kung fu is cool
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: anyone want to tell me what's the matter with this: https://hastebin.com/covibucuva.xml
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: It's a super simple issue, probably just need to omit "" or something, not sure what I did wrong though.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. omit "" maybe?
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: dunno. ive had plenty of troubles with variables and always forget the correct way each next time
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Ok, I've figured out that the issue is with the alias part, not the trigger.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: or at least, I can fix the triger.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: So, it is probably an issue with the Wildcard, and I'm just not versed enough in their function to say.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: ^(?:n|s|e|w|u|d)$  Directional input needs to become the variable. Which should just be %1   no?
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. why you want a trigger to open a door for you?
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Mostly to figure out how to do it, it's a whim.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i mean, using a ctrl+direction is plenty good
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Now now, don't judge for other people what level of convenience is sufficient for them. :P
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I don't like to remove my fingers from the left part of the keyboard.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: What's the problem Wilmar?
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Wilmer*
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: can't get a wildcard to work
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: What's the command you're sending on that trigger?
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I'm matching ^(?:n|s|e|w|u|d)$ to %1 is that wrong?
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: I'm not great with regex, but you can test the pattern on regex101.com.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. just to advertise the ctrl+ thing. instead bumping and waiting for mud to respond and all that hustle, with ctrl+n opening all doors around you takes 20 milliseconds
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: is ? one and only one character?
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: https://hastebin.com/covibucuva.xml 
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: that probably has problems, but if I can just figure out why the variable isn't working I can trial and error until I get it
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: You're trying to match the exit string for a room?
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: It's not really about convenience, it's more about I had a whim, and now I can't give up just because I couldn't get a super simple script to work...
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: I think you want the variable without the ""
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I'm trying to create a variable on my last exit.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raavus Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: now you are putting varable as a string with value last_dir, while you want variable to take the value of the existing variable last_dir
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: so the "" shouldn't be there in the trigger, but they should be there in the alias?
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Ursis, I'm not sure I got that.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: have a look at http://www.zuggsoft.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=33986 , 
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: I think the 9th post in that thread will be interesting for you :)
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Meh, I'm still stumped.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: does it match the directions or is that failing too, put a print("test") inside the trigger
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: How are you doing the directions? Are you using the numpad, or are you actually typing them?
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: typing
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You have "Regular Expression" ticked?
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: No, for the alias?
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: I've tried that, it makes nothing happen
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: like just black.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: It does create my variable, but it is empty.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Your regex pattern is off.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: then what does print("%1") print
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: ^(?:(n|s|e|w|u|d))$
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: nothing printed by that.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Change your pattern to that.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You weren't capturing anything at all.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: Oh! working, it seems.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilmer Tech: thanks!  I can iron the kinks, now.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Also, the pattern for doors is: Magical wards around the door bounce you back.
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Anyone on here use Proxymud?
T3/r7/2017-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Genos Tech: is there a method to manually turn on gmcp.group?
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Get your mushclient questions answered here, right now. Call within the next thirty minutes and we'll throw in sagely mushclient advice absolutely free.
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: is there a mushplugin to change the color of a philips smart light depending on the amount of damage taken x round, as a proportion of total HP? :)
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne smirks.
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you can tap into the smart light program, you could probably do it!
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I think it's actually doable... there's an api etc...
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: icefall 4 may have light effects support...
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: No, but that would be super cool
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: how do you connect to the api?
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: http request?
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: from the website: The hue bridge APIs are your primary tool for controlling your lights. This is a RESTful interface over HTTP. The purpose of this web service interface is to give every light in your system a URL in your local network. We also give every controllable parameter of these lights a local URL. This means that controlling the lights is achieved by simply sending a new value to this local URL.
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sweet. that would be super easy
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: the lights themselves are pricy
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't have lights to test with, so I'd need someone else to help
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the more damage you take per round the darker it should get ....
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: the redder...
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I also don't have one...it's just too cool, would waste too much time trying to do cool things with it
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well you can send http API requests to your lightbulb with one command in the aardwolf mushclient package
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so if you ever get one, it would be extremely easy to set up colorful light displays
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: yah..it would...I'll think of it...289 SGD for the starter pack.... :( 3 bulbs and the wireless bridge
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm curious if these lightbulbs can be hacked
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do you mean to do neat things for you? or do you mean to do mean things to you by someone from outside?
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the latter
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: to do mean thing to your neighbour of course
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: change them into flashing random lights and give people epileptic fits
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess I hope that however they work is dependant on access allowance/restrictions on your local network
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: seems to be that way (connect the bridge to your network etc) but nothing is safe
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: hacking amazon buttons to uby toilet paper...and submerge someone in toilet paper rolls? :)
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: never connect credit card purchases to buttons connected to the internet on purpose
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: - h20
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: is there any other way to put win update off in windows 10 pro
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: having an email address on public page these days, bad idea?
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: like my own
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: usually.
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: if you have gmail level spam protection, it's probably okay, otherwise spam spam spam
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: having it as a png not text should be safer i guess
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: there was such a great talk about what to do with spam emails.
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: turns out it be best if more people just respond them with random crap
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: you can also have your email printed using javascript code, that doesn't directly include your email in your source code
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. that seems a good idea
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: neat, I found a site that does it for you, maybe a little overkill the way it does it, but :) http://www.mailtoencoder.com/
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: it basically puts all the letters of your email in random order, then specifies the order it is supposed to appear in an array and sorts it before printing it out to the user
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: I do think sometihng like mailto:' + 'admin' + ' + 'example.com would suffice though :)
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: something
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: oops, it took away the + '@' +
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: this is overkill:)
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i have html canvas anyway. i can print out anything there
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: im more afraid of lunatics than spammers
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Den Mother Snowolf Tech: MUSHclient question, Health/Status bar says "Drag to move window" while moused over, but it's not letting me drag it.. how do I unlock it so it will drag? :(
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you have to grab it in the black part
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: unfortunate technical limitation of mushclient hotspots
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: aard layout unlock, first, by the way.
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Den Mother Snowolf Tech: Thank you! Both! :D
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: though I suppose I could maybe get rid of something to make the whole thing grabbable? I don't actually remember what's in the way, just that something was.
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's the gauges. They have mouseovers, too.
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wonder how valuable that is
T3/r7/2017-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As long as you're not grabbing a guage, you're okay to drag when the layout is unlocked.
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Genos Tech: anyone using or have used Proxymud? I will pay for technical support
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: How can I get rid of these extra numbers at end ?  (K)(M) a Wand of Earth Displacement  [1796108684]  (31)
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: I hear it's a plugin.. sth named like inv sorter etc..
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I dont got that plugin
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: how odd.
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: well, I might be wrong on the name.. but you have a plugin for sure
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Den Mother Snowolf Tech: When are you seeing the tag? At all times?
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I installed mush again with no plugins loaded, and its still like that, i see it all the time for all my invitory items
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: see K)(M)(G)(H) a Bag of Aardwolf  [1437807347]  (11)
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: I don't even know a way to see a mud command to see both sn and level at the same time..
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: It looks very ugly and spammy.
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: if there is not one, it must be a plugin
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: otherwise it can be an alias.. 
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Its a fresh install of mush, no scripts or plugins yet loaded.
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: the mushckient kept kicking me off.. im on regular telnet til i figure outwhats wrong with themushclient
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: How do i add a batch file like this to a games shortcut?    taskkill /F /IM Explorer.exe
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I created a .txt file but can see the file extention to rename it to .bat and ultimately make a batch file. How can i see file extentions again in explorer please
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: ile but cant *
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: NM, it was in folder options from controll panel
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: win10 you click view, then a check box that says view extensions
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: omg i created a batch file that kills explorer open age of empires 2, and when i quit the game open explorer again, it works like a shortcut, i needed too do this to fix odd color bug in windows 7. Yes ty Ontuct
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Batch files is so cool
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: autoexec.bat and config.sys were constantly fiddled with for dos 5.0 games
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: 8nodsa
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: and you had to have startup disks for some games.
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you need 512K available lol
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: why not jsut use dosbox?
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: for me it was back in the day, not now
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What if im Stronger Tech: How do i remove that last numbers after inv items ? (K)(M)(G)(H) Aardwolf Ring of Regeneration  [1495091008]  (11)
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Why is there no tick timer plugin in a freshly installed MUSH 1919?
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: How odd.
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I know
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Now there is just unused white space where it used to be, using unecesarry space and with no function.
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Cackle: you want to remove the level of the item?
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Oh, not you. 
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Sorry, I misread
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh wait, it is you. are you also Stronger?
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Fiendish helped me out with that tick timer.
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: also invetory problem
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: does anyone here have a docking station that supports 2 monitors as well as 2 laptops (mac and pc) at the same time
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I've never had a docking station. Aren't they made for specific laptops?
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: all the ones I've seen are brand specific
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: that almost sounds more like some sort of kvm switch?  allows switching external monitors, mouse, kbd between multiple computers.
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I thought there were some universal ones
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: or maybe yeah, it's more of a kvm switch?
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: laptops come with screens, I can see wanting the keyboard and mouse consolidation.
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: googling universal dual monitor docking station shows a few, but I don't know if they are apple/pc compatible
T3/r7/2017-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: yeah. I'll have to investigate further
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: How to delete ALL system restore points, and make ! new one please?
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Sigh, old system restore made havoc
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Why it didnt use my latest system restore, only god will know, so stupid to use oldest one
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: I made numerous windows tweaks yesterday. Created system restore. Power went out. Today at startup is says need to restore system restore point to fix startup files. Now it didnt use my latest system restore pointm it used a ooooold one. All my system tweaks was gone, even mush didnt work. wtf
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: well, a leason to be learned there: don't use the system image tools from windows. try something external, that craetes a file you can identify. for example, macrium reflect
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: that's a good free one. but there are other free tools (and some you have to pay for)
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Demonic Cackle thanks Liber heartily.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Finally done redoing everything just now, the last sys restore even deleted my age of empires 1+2 batch files i created to fix color bugs, grrrr
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Also learned how to delete sys restore points manually. Never fiddled with it before.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Heh, i love age of empires allot!
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Geomchi Tech: any android players know how to add shortcuts?
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i do
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Just hold your finger on the screen for a while till a new screen appears, add a new button and assign new task.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Geomchi Tech: can you help me out lmao :)
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: just hold you button on the screen
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Geomchi Tech: ahh thanks ^-^
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Geomchi Tech: im on the normal aardwolf android client o.o
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Demonic Cackle Tech: Cellphone mudding is cool.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Geomchi Tech: its not working 
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: do you have any available buttons on your screen already, Geo?
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Geomchi Tech: yup the actions button and my megablast shortcut 
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: alright. Press and hold one of those buttons. You should get a new screen (It looks like a graph overlay). Once you're there, tapping any open space should make you a new button you can make a short cut with.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odan Tech: any experts on?
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: that'd depend what your question is about
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm an expert in many things.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I downloaded the upgrade and it caused a runtime error with my sharptracker. I deleted it. Did anyone else have the problem? Is there a different plugin that people use for that?
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odan Tech: can someone help me with mush client
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Depends on what you need.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: was that for me?
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Heh, 30 minutes later :P
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'm assuming it was to Odan
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: oh ok
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's for anyone who needs help, I suppose.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I fixed my problem
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Sharptracker has always had issues where you gotta reinstall it
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And Cheezburger doesn't know time. 26-5 is 21 minutes, not 30 minutes.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: or math, rather.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Also pretty sure Opo hasn't updated it in years
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't think he has.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I found the sting of messages on the tech board and added  the fix :)
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It was just basic rounding Arc...but appreciate you trying to make me seem dumb :)
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne smirks.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Last time that was updated was probably when I was in Xunti helping him
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odan Tech: is there a way to get lessons my client>
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Which client?
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I assume MUSH, based on his previous question.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There's not so much as "lessons" as tutorials on MUSH's forums.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odan Tech: mush i think
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But a lot of the scripting done is in Lua (though you can use other languages)
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: https://mushclient.com/forum/?id=6030
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: http://vimeo.com/80333485
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Is there a way to get rid of all these other windows and fullscreen the main mush window in the mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: uninstall thel plugin?
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Why would you want to do that?
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: I just installed the client and these other windows are messing with mt OCD
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: file->plugins will show you the list of installed plugins
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: my*
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: use telnet :)
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Lycynder, it's hard to do so.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Maybe uninstall your OCD instead!
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: XD Tried that.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: I love his OCD :D you shush Bamboo
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Her*
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: What you can do is try to align the windows to make them look neat
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: oh lol sry
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can unlock the layout and adjust the main screen to full screen, though.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: XD np
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: OK. Thanks
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or as Bamboo says, align them to your liking, too.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm quite OCD about things, too.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: if you realign, it *should* save when you quit mushclient
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: liking things a certain way, as in, WELL DONE....isnt a mantal illness
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Mine are neatly aligned, almost like a big, solved, jigsaw puzzle
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It does, Ursis.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Bogstar: They classify OCD as a mental illness. :P
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Metropolis spends hours finding the right way for all the windows to be aligned so they fit perfectly in the perfect way in the perfect size...
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: and I washed my hands every 15 minutes in california, otherwise you can catch flesh eating diseases off the donut counter or park bench...so whatever
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: What?! Great. Now I am going to be washing my hands more often...
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: I mean, I keep hand sanitizer in my purse anyways so whatever.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Thanks guys
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm a registered medical assistant by title (though I don't have the job). I constantly sanitize and wash my hands. I hate using public restrooms because so many DON'T wash their hands, so I hate touching the door from the last person who left it.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: I love the desert essence tea tree pads.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: doesnt just clean your skin but the natural oils keep it cleaner
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: out of curiousity, why is uninstalling plugins an issue? I uninstalled a bunch, just curious if I might have screwed something up
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: that was supposed be a tell
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: http://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/annoying-photos-ocd-81__605.jpg
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Some of the plugins rely on other plugins to work efficiently.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's why with some of them, MUSH will automatically install any missing plugins it needs to run the others.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: gotcha, I'm pretty cognicent of the dependencies when I mess with stuff, so far so good
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: What is the directory for the plugin folder?
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycynder Tech: mush->world->plugins for the most part
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Ok one last thing. XD sorry. Is there a file somewhere or a website that shows how to use winklewinkle search and destroy plugin?
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: https://code.google.com/archive/p/aardwolf-scriptalicious/wikis/MapperHelp.wiki
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: only thing I could find
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: ok thanks!
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: What do you mean "how to use"?
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: How to install, or after installation?
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I was asumming the commands and some slightly more advanced usage (like cexits)
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I don't think S&D lets you set cexits. Most of the things one would use are in the S&D GUI
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: How to use as in How to use the actual plugin after installed.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it does, because the mapper does
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That link I shared showed cexit stuff
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: "search help" lists the commands, with explanations
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Cexits are set in mapper, not S&D
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Right, buy S&D can still utilize it
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: but*
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Oh dear. I seem to have entered a loop where xmapper isnt working.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: It does, but like I said, S&D doesn't let you set cexits, that's mapper's job
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It doesn't matter in what layer the functionality exists, if all layers can utilize it
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: is xmapper a seperate plugin?
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I have no idea wtf xmapper is...
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can't use the plugin from Winkle's site with newer editions of MUSHclient. You have to get the one from Nokfah's site, otherwise xrt will never work.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: xmapper move 12885. hunt older topaz dragon
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Oh dear. Whats that site?
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: finger nokfah
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: It appears the website in the link sends me to a google drives folder where I can get a plugin for gq.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Is GQ_range what I am looking for?
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No, there should be S&D on there, too.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Ah! I see it I missed it the first time. sorry!
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: And then I download all three files in the search and destroy fix folder?
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Oh. This is nice.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: this is so much easier than doing this the manual way. XD I love this.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Now I am getting a No matching rooms found error.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: You haven't been to that room yet
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: probably because you haven't been in the room yet
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it's not a magic know-all database, you still need to propogate it
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Darn. XD
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: So mapper has to data about that room - you have to feed it first
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: no data*
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger goes 'Nom nom nom' to Tricksy Bamboo.  Now you're hungry too.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo shaves his doggy's ass, teaches it to walk backwards and names it after a clan that sux.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: I accidently pressed the clear window button in my search and destroy gui. Is there a way to get it back?
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I think you just move... don't you?
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Try 'xcp'
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Thanks! Xcp worked
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I added the 'fix' in for sharptracker..I am not getting anything coming out on my group channel like it used to...is there a way to fix that?
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: can you use the DoAfter() function in mushclient's trigger feature?
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't see why not.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: anyone has problem with gmcp group data being slow?
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: like about 30 secs
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: wow, no
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: my quest timer suddenly started running 30 seconds behind.
T3/r7/2017-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: the timer I keep, that is.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: whats a no nonsense light and free video editing tool for capturing stuff going on the screen?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i remember browsing for those was such a pain
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Anyone know why my mush's windows locations aren't saved when I close mush
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: the mapper cexit wait function does not appear to be working. 
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What's not working about it?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And how are you attempting to use it?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: mapper cexit u-semicolon-wait(2)
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It automatically waits 2 seconds already.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: different wait
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: but you're doing mapper cexit u;wait(2)?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: cexit_wait is to have the cexit confirmation wait
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Emm.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You use wait in the cexit itself if you have to wait for an mprog or something.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: wait(2) is to have the mapper run pause
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: it fires the U, then says Larcenist you cannot do that. Then CEXIT mapper fails to add CEXIT
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So you'd do mapper cexit u;say hi there!;wait(5);run nes
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: if you need to have the next cexit wait awhile longer to check to see if it worked you do mapper cexit_wait x
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, you also need to double the semicolons.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: so mapper cexit u;;wait(2);;do another action after.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: One of the most useful cases for using wait is in Genie. As a side note, I correct myself, you don't need to do an action after.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But in Genie, you'd go to the lamp room and do: say I wish to see the genie;;wait(5)
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: so I tried mapper cexit u\
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: "so I tried mapper cexit u;wait(2)     It did not work"
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Place a semi-colon before you start your line to be able to do semicolons.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You're not paying attention.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: It is trimming off some of my code, so it looks weird in channel
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You need to do: mapper cexit u;;wait(2)
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: I also tried cexit_wait 4
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Notice the double ;?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nowell Tech: #doublethedecimalsdoublethememory
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Anyone know why my mush's windows locations aren't saved when I close mush
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay, breakdown. wait(2) means your runto waits 2 seconds. cexit_wait 4 means you want the mapper to wait 4 seconds before it confirms room movement.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Okay
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or knowledge time.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And Bamboo: Do you have MUSH saved to Program Files?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Running my mush with wine
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Then I don't know. What happens when you click "save" before closing out? (shouldn't have to, just curious if it does save it then)
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Same. I always click save
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: this did not wrok....   mapper cexit w-SEMICOLON-buy 1-SEMICOLON-buy 2-SEMICOLON-e-SEMICOLON-u-SEMICOLON--SEMINCOLON-wait(2)
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What version do you have, Bamboo?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Larcenist, if you're not going to listen to what I've been telling you, I will soon give up trying to help you.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: How do I check again
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Bamboo: checkversion
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: r1723
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I've told you multiple times your syntax is wrong, Larcenist, and you haven't listened.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Wow, that's an old version.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Yep :p
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: if the cexit involves multiple actions, does it require double semicolons between each action?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: or just between the wait and the others?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Every;;single;;action
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: beacuse u-SEMICOLON-SEMICOLON-wait(2) works very well
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Okay
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Bamboo: At the very least, you should be running 1825, but you should be able to upgrade to the newest version, too.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Why does it happen though. It used to save the preferences
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: I confused me because you only need one SEMICOLON between each action, UNLESS you also want to us the wait function
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Larcenist: You can also avoid having to type out semicolon every time by starting your line with a semicolon, so doing: ;tech this is an example; hey, this works!;; yadda yadda yadda ;;; -- it'll show them with no hassle.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't know, Bamboo, to be honest.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo rapidly nods twice at Arcidayne, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: test;
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Well goodness!
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Larcenist: The reason you need double semicolons is because the command line parser sees one semicolon and thinks you're doing separate commands. The parser looks for two semicolons so it knows it's supposed to escape the semicolon.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Arcidayne That makes perfect sense. I had used single ;'s in all of my cexits so far. That the parser works that way makes sense.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sounds like you might need to go back to your cexits and fix some, then. I've made that mistake a few times and sat there wondering why I opened the door but didn't go through it.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Thanks so much BTW. It's all working really smoothly now.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: Can anyone give me a crash course on triggers or a resource where I can read about them?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: google go figure: https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=triggers
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: wonderful
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: the only thing missing here is that it wasn't an lmgtfy link .-. I'm ashamed
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: anyone know if this is the right syntax for MushClient disarm trigger - * DISARMS you and sends your.* * flying!
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: get all
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: ear %3
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you can use "echo" to test triggers
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: pff. its 2017 and you cant move icons on taskbar in w10.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I do.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That can't be true....
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: you can move but they wont stay there
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sure they do.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I don't have w10 to confirm, but there's no way they'd go that backwards
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I rearrange my icons constantly, and they stay there even after reboot.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: mine stay right where I put them
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: rearrange yes. move and stay put - no
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You seem to be alone there Hwu :P
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: you can drag them all the way to right, but they crawl back
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I mean I can't have one off by itself or anything
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: you would need to divide your task bar to do that
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: did you try restaring your PC?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: because they default to left allign
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You're full of shit, though. You only said 'moving', not 'isolating'
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Google is telling me that it's been known to happen with the desktop icons, but I can't find anything about the task bar.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So essentially you want to add a seperator...
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: no. i want to move an icon to the center and i want it to stay there
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: To the center, as in 2 icons to the right and 2 the left? (or any number)
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: or centered as in space surrounding it?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: my task bar is pretty much always full all the way across.  have you considering opening more applications to achieve this?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: or pinning a bunch of apps to it
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONxw2PdjRhw This says different. :P
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: or pin them...
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Having a ton of overhead just for more icons by running the app seems...backwards
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: just upgrade your pc, no worry of overhead
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Well...that depends what you're running.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the extra heat helps keep warm in winter
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: just pin some programs you commonly use
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: When I'm running a 9 hour render....I really don't want extra overhead :P
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: and arrange them in the order you want till you get far enough over
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: and make sure the one you want to stay there is pinned to.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: pinned too even.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Or feeding my GA test data for days on end.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Besides, I'm pretty sure there's docking software to emulate what you want, so why would Microsoft spend its time re-inventing the wheel?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: pinning programs to taskbar does not create any significant overhead
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Cairo-dock works on windows I think
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: like a few bytes at most
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: reinventing?!? just want them to come to the 21th century with us
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Has microsoft ever been progressive?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Methinks you're not intelligent enough anyway...
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: even QDOS was stolen and DOS sold before it was created.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: me thinks youre a real jerk if you meant it right now, arc
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You remind of the person who put "3st" on a medal.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Microsoft always has, and always will, aim for the lowest common denominator. They have maybe 0.001% of users who would even use that feature, why would they spend time, money, and energy to develop it?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: you remind me of many persons i dont want to be near
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's a pleasant quality to have!
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: Intelligence takes many different forms. It is not one-dimensional. And not as important as I used to think. - bill gates.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Most sane end-users like things aligned consistently, not things off centered by themselves out of the flow of the rest of everything else.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I've told you three times now how to achieve the effect you want
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: most of the stuff i see on tech channel reminds me why i had it off for the longest time
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: subtle attacks are fun, but some of the other stuff is lame
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: C'mon, Emm. This is tech channel. Do you really expect people to listen?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: can someone google something for me?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: www.lmgtfy.com
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: just anything, then link for me plx, thanks
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: http:///www.lmgtfy.com
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne rolls on the floor laughing at No Offense Cheezburger's antics!
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: https://www.google.com/search?q=anything&oq=anything&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i65.952j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj066Trya_UAhUHJsAKHcvuCh0QtwIIMzAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DdQw4w9WgXcQ&usg=AFQjCNEPGa2VKuL0GefK_nkQoh9csTD8OA&sig2=8q8HWGfYOV3PsnZdZEDIVA
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i said exactly what i wanted. the solution there was like.. meh
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: and i wasnt even serious. 
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Come on guys, up your game. You gotta follow a referrer link to a referrer link to a google search result so that the url becomes to long to effectively copy from MUD output :P
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I just copied the search results link. :p
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: there are two ways to acheive a particular program staying in a particulr "slot" in the task bar, one is to install a third party app, the other is to pin enough programs that it is in the spot you want.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: oh that.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: if you PIN them not run them they don't eat up memory
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yeah...it's been said several times now...but you really wanted to argue about why MSFT should have done it :P
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: its close but as i said - i put down exactly what i wanted w10 to do for me
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: okay third option, hack your registry.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but I am not about to walk you through that.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i was not serious and it was weird to see some.. hm. sarcasm
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: just send him a reg file he can import
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I mean, you can make a program with an invisible icon and pin it several times...
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: if I do that it will be one that turns his computer into my bot.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Essentially creating a "spacer"
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: exactly!
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so let me see if I understand whaet is going on now, you don't ACTUALLY want to do what you were bitching about W10 not letting you do?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: http://www.beingtechsavvy.com/align-pinned-taskbar-button-apps-center-windows-10/17065
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: Isn't the better question "Why use W10?"
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I mean...for me it is.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Isn't that played out and tired, being a fanboy?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Being a fanboy is too much work, I'd rather just have some haterade
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: there is some advantages to using w10, though I still prefer w7. If you want to viice-activate your system w10 is the way to go.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Windows 10 does some things well.  Windows Update, for instance, had a nasty habit of shitting the bed with 7
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, if you want a permanent listening device for a gimmick...
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As if your smartphone isn't already doing the trick...
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So you want more of it?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: oh wow never even though about doing it as a custom toolbar, that would work too.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: I didn't say I approved or cortana, in fact I have it turned off, but the options is there and nowhere else.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: But you are correct. Anyone with facebook installed has a permanent listening device
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: Why don't you just get rainmeter or something?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Easy way to prove you're being listened to: Put your phone by a radio playing foreign speech/music. The adds you recieve will now be in that language.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hold on lemme get my hat
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: you can turn the permissions off as long as you don't mind the apps telling you that there is something wrong :)
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Nah, not even conspiracy theory. It's been proven they use ultrasonic listening.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't get many ads on my phone. :( I use Brave, which has an ad-blocker, and if a program I use has ads, it goes bye-bye.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: google play goes nuts without permissions :)
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So does the google assistant
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Freaks the living hell out
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: the one that freaks me out is when I get adds on my home pc for stuff I looked up while on a computer at my school
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Tracking pixels man.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: not logged into google or anything just my school's network
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: I only download apps that only have the permissions they require. If I see (for example) a flashlight app needing to access media files, wifi, device history, etc... NOPE
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hear about Alexa recording a private conversation between a couple and sending it to a colleague or lawyer or something?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: you are linked, haven't you heard? your google acount spans all devices you log in to.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Doesn't matter. A tracking pixel can give a pretty good idea of WHO you are IRL. And just link it.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but I never logged into google on that machine
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The couple don't even know what phrase they said that caused Alexa to send it.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: But did you log into facebook or something that they can now tie to an identity?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: it doesn't matter, google keeps you tracked in the cloud.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Anywhere you used an email, they knew
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: nope no facebook, no amazon
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: just as bad :)
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I did GO to google, but I checked and I wasn't logged into it it
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: doesn't ghostery let you block beacons?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I mean, kinda
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: if you're really that concerned, use TOR and don't log into anything. Basically the only effective way anymore to be "invisible"
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: the only thing I can think is that my school's email is run by gmail so somehow my school account is linked in.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: And even then, those are some heavy ass quotes on invisible.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I am not sure I would even trust TOR
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I mean there's only the exit node you can't trust
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The other 2 hops are layered
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: you know there's tools to unmask TOR users, right?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: I've used the dark net to log in to aard, it works just fine :)
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: go buy an $80 laptop at best buy, pay cash, and use it, don't log into anything, don't use it on your home, school, or work wifi, etc.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Ana...that's not how this works. That's not how any of this works
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: no e-mails, no messages and no browsers :)
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: you could probably use TOR, though.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You can't "use" the darkweb, it's simply unlisted URLS accessible as .onion
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Cheezburger I saw it on CSI.  My IP address is now 1523.1331.887.311 since I logged into the Dark Web
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: right, but setting up a spoofed IP is part of being in the dark net.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Nice, you managed to get an out-of-bounds IPv4!!!
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: the dark net is not a place is an attitude :)
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Spoofing IPs are easy. But the real tinhats spoof their IP, to VPN into a shared box, that tunnels through TOR, and then returns the data :P
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: Only real tinhats spoof their MAC
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Or...script kiddies
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I spoof my MACs all the time
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: people actually use MACs?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: MACs are used to determine a UUID for devices
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: By...well being one
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: my outermost router in my house changes its 
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: changes its MAC once a day.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: how the hell did you teach it to do that? Gimme tips
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: so tomorrow your e-mails will soft-bounce?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I actually do this so that my stupid carrier doesn't throttle my connection
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: you should try paying.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: its got a linux kernal, its a 4 line script
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: http://documentation.netgear.com/fvs338/enu/202-10046-03/FVS338-04-5.html
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I do pay
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: Or maybe the ISP shouldn't throttle
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Then just slap DD-WRT on it and do a chrontab
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: try a windows mod
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: There's a lot of things ISPs shouldn't do, but do
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Speaking of which, I'm so tired of running over my terabyte data cap from the Evil Ones at Comcast.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: you have a terabyte data cap...?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: All comcast customers in like 20 states do
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Rolled out a couple months ago
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I have a 10 terabyte data cap, but that is a hard cap no MAC spoofing would fix that
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I run servers in my house, a terabyte can be gone before the 5th day of the month on a good month.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: I mean, I hate comcast as much as the next guy and hate throttling, but if you're consistently hitting a terabyte cap you may have a problem if you don't have a business
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: 1TB not all that unreasonable for a regular-ish plan
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I do...
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: what I find happsn if I don't change mac address and get a new IP is that after 24 hours or so the bandwidth drops from 100 mbps peak to 25 mpbs peak
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I run a startup out of my home, as well as live a very media heavy consumption style of life. Data goes like water.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: off
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I've noticed that too
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Just type tech..
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: To turn it off
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: how the hell do you run a startup with a data cap?!
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Or tech *off xxxx (where xxx is the number of minutes)
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: and what's the 4th x?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: doesnt your ISP know who you are by your authorized modem mac?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I sprung for the unlimited plan
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emm snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Emm, it's silent
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emm falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: host a netflix mirror in your house if you have an unlimited plan and see how fast that shit gets throttled.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Pfft, after a 24 hour coding session with netflix running it'll get throttled if you don't mac spoof
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It doesn't take much to trip their alarms
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: we have fios in a 200 lign
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: line
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: fios is cute
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: they installed cable
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but I haven't had a single problem with it since I started rotating MACs
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I mean it still slows down sometimes, usually in the evening, but its only a brief slowdown not a consistent one
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yeah that seems to be a universal "Too many netflix streams" slowdown
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: right
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: though for me its just as often hulu or amazon prime or hbo or whatever
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: nah, I mean ISPs actively throttling during peak usage hours.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but most of my neighbors it is probably netflix
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: For everyone, regardless
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I don't think its throttling so much as load balancing
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Nah, I worked for a number of the major ISPs.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The infrastructure is way better than they let customers think
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I was a network engineer for Sprint
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: me too :)
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: cool in OP?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: In R&D in KC
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: nods
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: cool
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I worked in OP, on network design for Whispernet/Datalink
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: right after the Nextel merger
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: My parents have a satellite connection that gets throttled to LITERALLY worse than dialup speeds when they go over. Is that load balancing?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: no that is throttling
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: that is data cap throttling
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Or possibly clouds.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: which sprint does on all its "unlimited" wireless contracts
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: or at least did when I was there
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i go from 5g 4g speeds to 3g speeds
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: and i can still play aard
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: 5g huh
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: """"5g""""
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it's a thing
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: 5giga at 4g
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sno Queen Defines goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: back to leveling
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i know what it is, but im curious where you're getting it :p
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: He isn't :P
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: 5g?  Where??!!!
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: but that doesn't change the up/down speed comparison :P
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: straighttalk
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i think sprint throttles to 2g speeds when you hit cap lol
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: No, thats actually 4Ge
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: the best u can do on a phone is probably 50 mbps real world with CA on t mobile
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: its my cap
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: u need an s8 for that
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: s8?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: android s8?
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i've gotten over 50mb/s on sprint using a junk kyocera
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: im dying here
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i was the only user on that sector though haha, 1/4 mile away
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: AT&T and Verizon, I think, offer "5G", but reports say it's anything but, false advertising, etc.
T3/r7/2017-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: "We offer 5G at 4G speeds!"
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: hello?
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: it's me.
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: iv got a question.
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: can u get a virus from a mud?
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: if you meet a chick with a cold and then kiss her!!
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: or stand too close to Pleiades
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: lol i meant more like a computer virus
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: download a naughty addon but still unlikely
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: ok thank you
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: You can get a virus from anywhere. Using a program that many people use from a reputable download source, it is unlikely. So... getting the virus from a MUD? As in you logged onto a malicious mud with MUSHclient and there was a link and you clicked on it and it took you to russianhooker.com and you installed a virus? Yes, it's very possible. Just be smart.
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: don't click stuff heh
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: from the mud is impossible, since the mud, unlike other text protocol (chats, mainly) does not allow for file sending. via most clients also no. but I would suggest installing the client from the official site, or from some trusted person's site (like fiendish)
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: if phone based obscure client? who knows :)
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: sorry, that's what I meant, that was put much better Liber
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Liber has it. Obscure clients could get you.
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: oh ok thank you very much fpr xplaining it to me
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: last question. how do i find and install a good client on a laptop?
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: from the site (doesn't have to be installed, only unzipped). or 'figer fiendish', for the newer version (installable, updatable)
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: im sorry to bother yall agin  but can someone explain how to safely get a mud client on a computer? its just it isnt my computer ans i really dont wanna mess it up
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: MUSHClient?
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: download mushclient and unzip it to desktop
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: which is what is in Fiendish' finger
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/downloads/Aardwolf-Mud-MUSHclientr1825.zip
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Is this one updated?
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: fiendish has the latest on his
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/releases/download/r1920/Aardwolf_MUSHclient_r1920.exe
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: ok. this ses windows 7. all we got is windows xp
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: damn
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: yup, putty is a telnet client, that works
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: well ssh too, but you can use telnet
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: then your answer will be that it is impossible. You should not put winXP on the interwebs
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel is agreeing with that Ayasinda person again...
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: uh oh, Noegel is agreeing with folks
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldist Tech: any client for windows xp?
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: other than MUSHCLient?
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: xp == bad mmkay
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: was there anything in the latest windows update that changed text fonts?
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Like S&D's font?
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: mostly number formatting
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: or font of numbers rather,s 2s look real weird
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tad Tech: I'm new to tintin does anyone have any good docs and or tweaks that I should be using?
T3/r7/2017-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tad Tech: I cloned theixle/aardwolf-tintin read the into and have some things up in tmux (chats and the map) but I'm sure there is some synergy that I'm missing out on
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Trigger function "levbonus" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Anyone know this one
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: channel history is very strange sometimes
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish has joined the conference call.
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: anyone use eqSets from Bast?
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is buggy for me.
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i don't cause people kept complaining about it
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: too many bugs with inv management, can't afford to eqdb refresh everytime i need to get something from my bag
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: gotcha
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I am just using a spreadsheet atm, that uses level and score, but wanted to see if there were a better way
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: i'd like to know of a better way as well
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: no worries, maybe if I could figure out some stat math
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: per class I mea
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: mean, getting all the letters is hard today apparently
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: - 20
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Trigger function "levbonus" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Anyone know this one?
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I get it every single line
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: I am a computer illiterate. I think I must have touched a button I should not have touched. Suddenly when I run to an area the are no spaces between the different lines of text, have i broken Mush?
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: try: compact
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Birdbrain Metria is agreeing with that Endymion person again...
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj is agreeing with that Birdbrain Metria person again...
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: no, still doing it.
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well toggle it to make sure that wont be the problem after you fix a plugin :p
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: I should not actually be allowed on a computer, I think an abacus is my limit
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: one of your plugins is probably gagging blank lines
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Did you install any plugins just before you noticed the problem? Or upgrade anything?
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: I tried to remove the S&D mapper extension thing and reinstall it. Maybe I should have justleft it as it was, but I cannot runto places from the Hotel, which is kind of annoying
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: OK, so remove S&D, see if you have the spacing you expect.
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: I dsabled all three component but it is still doing it
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: also make sure you see this when you toggle "compact":  Compact mode removed.
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: then i'd try closing and reopening mush
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: ok, can I open the three parts again first, or after?
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if you dont save world properties, they will reload
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: ok going to try it, thanks
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I'm loving this xterm 256 colour support, I don't suppose there's a way to get damage messages to use that too?
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: still doing it, I guess I messed it up. Everything seems to work though
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Danj, no
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: cos I gotta say, all the NUKES and ATOMIZES and RUPTURES messages are looking a little tired
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: shame
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Could maybe do it with a trigger... maybe..
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: wonder if something could be done on the client end? I guess it'd be kinda cpu intensive though
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: mmm, don't have triggers yet
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: since it'd be triggering every round
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no I think metria meant me, about the trigger
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: ooops sorry, that was not for me. Ignore me
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leone Tech: who is hosting a current version of S&D?
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: finger starling
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: Does anyone happen to know what setting to adjust, to turn off the map popping up when repop happens?
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i think its displayed on room movement/repop and dont think you can choose on/off for them individually
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: That is weird, it has never done this before. It is only after recreating my character, that this situation is presented. lol
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: using mush?
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: Yes, I am.
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: reload ascii mapper plugin?
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that should gag it on screen every time
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Did you JUST recreate, and haven't restarted mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: I am unfamiliar with how to reload the ascii mapper plugin. What does this entail? No, I did not restart mushclient after recreation. Would it help in this situation?
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Quite probably
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: restarting mush reloads everything, so couldnt hurt prolly
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sidenis Tech: Ok, thank you, I will give it a shot. 
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: is apple really not going to be able to access low band soectrum?
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Apple can't do anything with my scrotum, no matter which band
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah i will never experience the limitations of an apple anything
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: im with you
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: and pay for the unprivelege
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i assume you mean they will only allow access to high speed services huh
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: 3g connection detected.  sorry, no service!
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: cant have that slow data rate slowing down your premium experience
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: i mean lowband not low bandwidth
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well thats just dumb then, why would they do that?
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: qualcom dispute
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hah
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'm on ubuntu command line, followed directions here to start noip as a service: https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-no-ip2-on-ubuntu-12.04-lts-in-order-to-host-servers-on-a-dynamic-ip-address
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It works when I type "sudo /etc/init.d/noip start" after I boot, but not when I put it into rc.local
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: ANy ideas?  My other thing in rc.local runs on startup, which is confusing...
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NotGod Pleiades prods you into action!
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I'm sorry, I dont know why he hasn't asnwered your question yet
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i missed it, what ver of ubuntu you using?
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You have to ungag him and open up the basement door first.
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Do you have full paths in rc.local? It runs with a VERY limited environment
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ubuntu 12.10
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: so... make sure it isnt after the 'exit 0' command in rc.local, i was gonna say something about systemd... but you're on 12.10
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Is /etc/init.d/noip start a full path?
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah it's line right before exit 0
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: sorry for asking the dumb questions... i figure you didnt do that, but have to ask :)
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Can you post your entire rc.local someplace? pastebin, perhaps?
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ehhh - I"m such a linux newbs, make sure I ain't doing something dumb!
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: https://askubuntu.com/questions/299792/why-is-the-command-in-etc-rc-local-not-executed-during-startup
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: the first answer is pretty good
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: https://pastebin.com/T9wMA6bk
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I know the iptables thing is executing...
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That looks ok, how about /etc/init.d/noip
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa nods at Birdbrain Metria.
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: and 'ls -la /etc/init.d/noip'
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: https://pastebin.com/XsLpK1aR
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: (making sure it has the right permissions)
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: -rwx--x--x 1 root root 465 Jun 10 18:45 /etc/init.d/noip
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'd check the perms on /usr/local/bin/noip2
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: -rwx------ 1 root root 73480 Jun  9 19:36 /usr/local/bin/noip2
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Add group execute
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: To noip2?
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: Nod chmod g+x /usr/local/bin/noip2
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: there's a member of the root group that needs access?
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Restarting....
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: also, you know the iptables script in rc.local runs, or your iptables is restored on startup, and you are pretty sure the rc.local is the reason why
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: The iptables is restored on startup, and I'm pretty sure rc.local is the reason why don't think I added it anywhere selse...
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Is there any way to check rc.local's logs?  I didn't see anything in  /var/log/syslog
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: dmesg?
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: not really...
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: rc.local isn't really meant to log, the commands within it are meant to write their own logs or to syslog
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: so make the command write to a log
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Didn't work - but didnt try adding sudo like I did for iptables, will try that after double :)
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I can just install the windows client but prefer to have it on linux
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Shouldn't need sudo in rc.local, I'd have thought
T3/r7/2017-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah that's what I thought too...
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: can the Windows version of Mushclient do Windows 10 "toasts" notifications?
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i like toast
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: here's a question: can I run a PowerShell script from MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: can you put commands on function keys or keyboard shortcuts in mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: function keys at least yes
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: world properties>macros
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: cool
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: note to self: don't execute commands interactively that might crash mushclient
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: For those who helped yesterday with my Linux issue - wasn't able to get it to run with RC.local, but just added this line to my crontab and it works :) eboot    root  /usr/local/bin/noip2
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: For those who helped yesterday with my Linux issue - wasn't able to get it to run with RC.local, but just added this line to my crontab and it works :) @reboot    root  /usr/local/bin/noip2
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: can't seem to figure out how to get mapper to get to first ascent, I can runto using the aard runto but not using mapper commands
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: I get "+------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NotGod Pleiades goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: and there's no spaces in between the dashes?
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: by mapper commands you mean?  xrt?
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: mapper goto 32529, mapper cexit climb the chain
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: no, I mean mapper next, or clicking a find from mapper area or mapper find
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: There's a cexit to get into the area, runto knows about it, your mapper does not.
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: thanks metria, was trying to remember how to find the place where a "walkto" or something 
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: ya, last time you guys helped with that, but couldn't remember how to get the show run or what haveyou
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: mapper where xxxxx
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: so we helped you before
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: but you didnt retain that knowledge
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bytor Tech: yes, sorry guys, of course not, silly Bytor
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo slaps NotGod Pleiades.
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Go back to immortal
T3/r7/2017-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: yes sir
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: how do I reset gui windows for mush?
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: is the BlowTorch client from the aard website more up to datet than BlowTorch 2.0 ?
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Anyone have any experience with SSH/Putty/NOIP?  For some reason it is adding the noip domain to the user when I try login in with putty and obviously not working.  I tried setting the username in putty with the right domain, and it just adds the noip domain to the end of that, so it ends up user@domain1@noipdomain
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Works fine if I just use the IP address...
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: sorry no, I just switch it over and use the IP in putty for everything
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Just annoying extra step - I have to look up the IP....
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Hopefully it doesn't change too often...So you've seen teh same behavior?
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I ran into it before, but for what I typically use putty for IP is stable enough to make me never care. I don't think I would use putty to mud, MUshCLient has converted me for this mud entirely
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: if you have an x server you could run mushclient in wine over a remote X11 session.. :P 
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: or if its just a windows compat issue, just run Mudlet
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: MOA is almost as nice as MushClient (but I would struggle to give up mapper now)
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: bah u would need xserver for that as well, let my brain wake up
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: hm. whats this - https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9vhOULDsX8FU1pOaExqWVhaZUE
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: never seen such bug. dunno if its mush or..
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umpalumpa Tech: it just happened without any input too. other than "enchant,put the thing to bag"
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: can someone help me fin ghte code in WW gui sctipt to change the window sizes.. I found how to change the font, but now it's all squooshed.   (technical term)   https://www.dropbox.com/s/ocnav9bj1wfh2cb/GUI.png?dl=0
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I reduced the font size for e buttons, so I I need to do it increase the spacing between the lines of mobs.. can anyone help?
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: for the button sizes you might want to search for '-- system buttons --' in the plugin... The lines below that create the buttons and have a couple of numbers (x,y,width,height IIRC)
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GothicLove Dalcia Tech: I have a question
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GothicLove Dalcia Tech: I'm not getting announcements on Personal notes, and I have my info is on
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: check "subscribe"
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GothicLove Dalcia Tech: I have personal on
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: reading tech board is good for a sad laugh
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Reading my face is good for a sad laugh.
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's my favorite board after raiding
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: this gui knows
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sno Queen Defines points excitedly at Arcidayne!
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: also fiendshish you has the tact
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: im forwarding starlings note to client services. they need a laugh
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay, I wish I had known about FFI earlier... this... well, let's see what additional mischief I can manage now.
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'd be curious to see what you come up with
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: we'll be waiting :>
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it lets you access anything you could from C or C++
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: yeah, but I had fun following some of his suggestions and I bet he did too :)
T3/r7/2017-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: mis!
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeJean Tech: Just curious, but do campaign mobs sometimes get marked as being in the wrong area?
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: is the statement that SSDs slow down after x amount of time still accurate?
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yes but x is longer now
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: (regarding the statement that ssds start to slow down after x amount of time)
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hundreds of thousands of hours I think
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: or maybe even millions
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: check manufacturer website for "MTBF" - Mean Time Before Failure
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: And then ignore it, because it's not going to mean anything useful to you.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: what he said lol
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: basically just replace your SSD when it starts to go duff, which might be after a few years or so
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Unless you're in very specific situations or you try very hard for a very long time, you're not going to _wear out_ a modern SSD.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: It'll just up and die from some firmware bug causing it to eat itself.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: actually that is pretty easy, just enough to store 230 GB data and use remaining 25 for daily tasks
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: a lot of people are used just to store all data till they need it to remove, does not matter for HDD whether your drive is 95% full , but it matters for SSD
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: I found a bug with SnD window, any one here to help?
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: too bad starling cant speak out here for 'his' plugin
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: My SnD GUI window all of the sudden went all the way up of my screen, i can access the top part to drag it down
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: type xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: does S&D not have a help file when you type xset help? that question comes up at least 3-4 times a week
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: it is in the mapper extender help section in ww help
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: I didnt notice that question on here for the last few years after 12+ hours a day og gaming, but I did that what you mentioned before you gave that answer, Im curious why the bug was caused
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: most people say it's when they drag the window to a "Weird" position 
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: I just clicked on a cp mob link Shotgun
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: It went out of bounds by itself though
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: I have also experienced that problem a while ago, but i did not know of the xset reset command. also dont know what caused it
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: I even toggled mush full screen view with the intend to see more pixels of that window, didnt help
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GamerX nods at Shotgun.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: To bad Fiendish is not online
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: hmmm...this is weird. i dont know if Starling is able to communicate with other players using 'say', but if he can you should contact him. he renovated S&D a few weeks ago
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Jesus how do people use blowtorch?? I was never a fast texter but god damn
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: create buttons, makes it a lot easier
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you can even make buttons that do alternative thigns when you "slide" them
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: I used blowtorch to quest. Keep the connection open all day and do a quest every 45 minutes. It doesn't take many commands to do that.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shotgun is agreeing with that Sheriff Shindo person again...
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel crosses her arms and nods slowly and sagely to Larcenist.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: hmm good ideas.  I'm about to just setup vnc for mushclient. anyone use x11vnc here?
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i use just x11 :)
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: VNC?! What is your host OS?
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: Karang is on Ultrix 
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: or Miux
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Um... bravo.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: I'm using wine+MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: I do NOT like the layout or how it looks, but I'm impressed with the mapper. I'm going to try to make the GUI a little more to my liking.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how about mud client from scratch ? they you could like super-customize it
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: There's also more minimal clients like TT++ and TF, both of which have scripts available to somewhat mimic the MUSH mapper.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: tt++ scripting is unreasonable
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: I took the source from mudlet on github and did just that. However, the lack of a mapper (and everyone on here saying how super it is) I gave MUSHclient a spin.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Agree to disagree :P
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Reasonable - but damn quirky!
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Meh, no more quirky that z/cMUD
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: afaik mudlet cannot parse ansi in json
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Lua is quirky too, if you allow it :P
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I only used Mush
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Well, since it can be played on a tty shell without a display manager...theoretically it's always at your screen's refresh rate :P
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how about a client using nodejs for scripting?
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: I liked Lua scripting in Mudlet. On that note, is there a way to edit scripts on the fly in MUSHclient? In Mudlet you could view all active scripts from the plugin and modify while the client was running.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I build one Jedhi...it was painful
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: much easier to do it in Java or Scala
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Larcenist: You can set up a script profile, which is just a raw Lua script that you can call
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Cheezburger Is that the Game-Configure->Scripting->external script?
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Honestly...couldn't tell you anymore. I haven't used MUSH in years, and not gonna install Wine just to check :P
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Got it :)
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger holds his thumb up at nothing in particular.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: I can only make one button in blowtorch, what am I doing wrong? 
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: When I long press I can make first . Second time no worky 
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: Why do I have rooms on my map that don't exist here?
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: game changes probably
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: what rooms
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: from a purged area?
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: 27103
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: that room exists
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: that is a room
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: It says there's 3 exits in the room, but only one actually exists
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: delete the 2 non north ones
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: room only has one exit
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: Huh... Okay then.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: I appreciate it. I was sitting here wondering what happened to my map
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: your map is wrong if it shows 3 exits. The room has always looked as is.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It esploded... like I did in my pants... I think I have to go change my diaper now.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne scrunches up his face cuz he is totally baffled!
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: the underdark is one of the oldest areas here and it hasn't changed.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: Why would my map show nonexistent exits? I've never tampered with the thing
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: the map capture routine sometimes misreads.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: I understand. Thanks for the explanation, I appreciate it!
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: especially if you did a custom exit from the north to open the door, then came back out before it did it's thang.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes the real question is, where did your mapper think the exits lead to!
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: one room was 30909
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I haven't been there
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: I don't know where it is, either. It just said that it was the down exit to this room
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: does anyone know where that room is??
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: my basement?
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: what room?
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: 30909
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: one of the false exits from that room I was in earlier that my map was showing me
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: 30909 doesn't exist, afaik.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: That is definitely weird, then. Ah, well.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: what made you think there was a room there?
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: my mapper showed exits in the up and down directions that I hadn't visited
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: But come to find out that the mapper apparently glitched.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: There is no door down from here.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: I know. Everyone corrected me on it and let me know that the map tool can sometimes glitch up and record things wrong
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I would blame guinness
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: or abelinc
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: same person
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: Why?
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: it is odd to map to non existant rooms.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: so what does that have to do with abelinc?
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: there is a door south and an exit north from that room
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I would tell you, but then he'll make me recite help files for DOS 3.3 commands :(
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: probably OS/2 over dos.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: He doesn't mess around then, huh?
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: he sure does not
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NotGod Pleiades giggles at Ontuct's actions.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I am Groot Anaristos Tech: I would suggest you remap the area, though i realize for the underdark that can be daunting.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Just delete the one room that's a problem, and redetect it.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Netflix and chill
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Damnit.
T3/r7/2017-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: Starling if you typo'd the custom exit, why would it carry on and require remapping, it should have failed and left you in the room you started in?
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: is there anyway around with crashing on import settings on blowtorch? I tried a tablet and a phone
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: what client works on linux
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: in Mushclient how do you add a door for a room. I tried mapper cexit open north, but it fails because it leaves me back in the room
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lamora Tech: is there a way to change all red colors into bright red or bright cyan?
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holthausen Tech: in mushclient? Game->configure->ANSI color
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lamora Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holthausen Tech: np
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: I ordered an USB Xbox controller for tomorrow morning 8:am. I intend to use it for PC gaming. I dont have any experience in this controller, is it any good, like when you compare it to a Playstation controller?
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: it got 5 stars on yelp
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: it got 5 stars on yelp
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: it got 5 stars on yelp
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: Awesome! thanks Pleiades.
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: anyone have any idea why gqs I'm eligible for dont get announced when they're about to start? have checked to make sure global info is turned on
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: right click in comms window and check the "echo in main window" settings among others
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: not sure I find that setting
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: oops echo channels in main window and there a few other settings to check that that brings up
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: rightclicking in comms window just gives me options like copy, highlighted words etc
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: you are talking mush-client right?
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yeah, and i mean the comms log window. i get lots of options below copt paste
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: well I believe that solved the problem, must've been turned off by default with the new mush-client version
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GothicLove Dalcia Tech: I have a friend trying to get onto Aardwolf via cell phone, she keeps getting "Can't connect on Wifi or Cell" she has restarted her phone, and cleared out cache... what else would she be able to do in order to get on?
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: blowtorch?
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Stupid question I know, but are you using the correct address?
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GothicLove Dalcia Tech: I'm asking her now
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GothicLove Dalcia Tech: aardmud.org is what she is using
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: correct port?
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Try port 23 if not already
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: could be a DNS issue, so doing 23.111.136.202 instead could help. and yeah, specify a port (23, 4000, or 4010)
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: No real reason for a DNS issue if everything is still working 
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: also can she access aardmud.org in a browser?
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: name resolution that is for other applications
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: true, but it's an easy resolution if that is the problem
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: always go for the easy solutions first :p
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GothicLove Dalcia Tech: okay she copy and pasted so bare with me while I type this out
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: I'd highly recommend trying it in a browser, just to see if aardmud.org doesn't resolve or is blocked for some reason
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: she can also try aardwolf.org if it doesn't work
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GothicLove Dalcia Tech: Network error: Socket Exception:failed to connect to aardmud.org/23.111.136.202 (port 23) reason: ECONNREFUSED (CONNECTION REFUSED)
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: connecting from a banned IP range? no idea. IP and port are correct.
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GothicLove Dalcia Tech: how would she be able to fix it if it was a banned IP? since all she uses is her phone
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: if she wants to create a new char then, some mobile networks are banned. send a mail to lasher
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: if thats the issue..
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: sounds like it's not connecting at all, not just getting booted when trying to create a new character
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GothicLove Dalcia Tech: her char name is Noegel, and I checked before turning to Tech to see if she was banned or nuked
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: Dalcia is she able to connect to the website? http://aardmud.org?
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: e.g. not aardwolf.com
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GothicLove Dalcia Tech: yes she can
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: has she tried port 4000 instead of 23?
T3/r7/2017-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: thanks for the help everyone! 
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shavrendil Tech: Is there a way in mushclient to see which triggers fire on a given line?
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you can change the colour of hte output at the same time
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but i'm guessng you don't mean you own triggers
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shavrendil Tech: I have a problem with bast's eqdb plugin - inventory doesn't work - and I found it's because its trigger does not fire on the "{/invdata}" line, which should stop it - and it then keeps firing on the item entries.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: what is in the match section of the trigger?
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shavrendil Tech: So I thought that another trigger may have fired on that line before the bast's one, and kept it from evaluating further - but I can't find any such one.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i think between fiendish and bast they worked something out. you may have to update both
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shavrendil Tech: The bast's one? It's "*".
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i believe every trigger has a chance to fire on the original output
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shavrendil Tech: Ah, right - I may have skipped updating the client... I'll try that, thanks Shindo.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: now, if the triggers are within the same script, then not checking the keep evaluation could prevent subsequent triggers
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: Feindish mentions something about it in the updates revision list htingy
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shavrendil Tech: Well, updating didn't help :(
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: what client will work on linpus Linux v1.0.9E
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: mushclient
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: how do we get it
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: download from the aardwolfwebsite
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: like a normal windows download?
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shavrendil Tech: It's even stranger than I thought. In the client log I see that on "inventory" the mud sends first a {keyring} block, then an {invdata} block, then actual human-readable inventory listing. The keyring is ignored by Bast, then it starts firing on the {invdata} until it encounters "{/invdata}" when it should stop.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shavrendil Tech: But it doesn't - it fires on the contents of the {invdata}, then it doesn't fire on "{/invdata}", keeps firing on the listing and throwing errors, and then it finally fires on the "{/invdata}" line it skipped previously - so it gets somehow delayed.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shavrendil Tech: Any idea what could delay trigger execution in such a way?
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: yes aura
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: thanks kip
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: it won't open
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: inzip it to somewhere
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: unzip
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: then run it through wine.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: she doesn't have a desktop what do we do
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BossyBoots Audra waves a large bright sign reading "o-} ARRR !! {-o"
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BossyBoots Audra pokes Kippe in the ribs.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: anyone? we can't download wine
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: hi, so i got wine finally installed on the notebook now i cant figure out how to run mushclient through wine
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: try to restart en them doubleclick mush
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: i did restart i will try that now
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: a few options, first install it either by right clicking on the installer and selecting the run with wine option
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: or if you are comfortable with commandline you can wine pathtoinstallfile
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: open with has no wine
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: there is no installfile
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: just mush.exe
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the download from Fiendish?
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: module not found
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I dont remember an installer
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: \no \i directed her to aardwolf site. \better than fiendish last problems
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BossyBoots Audra sighs.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: ive been doing this all day
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: its worth it
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: sorry to hear that it's not going as smoothly as it should
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: I still run the old one and I know it works perfectly. Also in Linux
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: well i got wine installed after 5 hours soooo
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: i had to damn reroot this bugger and make a new password
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: wheres fiendish :(
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BossyBoots Audra waves a large bright black sign reading "     "
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: so can you help me?
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: is there a way with mushclient for triggers to execute a script on my local machine?
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: isnt muchclient on your local machine?
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: do you mean call another alias?
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: when a trigger goes off in mushclient, i want it to execute a script on, say my desktop.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: is that possible
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: using lua i believe it is. fiendish and someone were discussing it
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trickle of Bludi Tech: system command ?
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: probably would be a ruby script
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loranite Tech: I'm having trouble playing with MUDRammer on iOS. If I switch apps nothing responds to my commands. I can still see messages on Newbie though. 
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Does anyone have any exp with S&D that can help me...it is being wierd
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Gonna have to be more specific than that
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I am doing a CP. When I run to the area and type cp 1, it tells me the mob and room and then tells me destination not found. It is working perfectly on quests...just does it on xcp 1
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: cant hunt cp mobs
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion forces a gag into Bogstar's mouth.  Ahhh, blessed quiet.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: did you try reinstalling it?
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I did just the reinstall button. I have tried removing and reinstalling. I can do that next
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: haven't...sorry
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: should be the same really, it reloads
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: so yes...I have
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: best bet is to see what "mapper where ####" shows next time it says not destination
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hard to say what is wrong with it
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: do you try more than 1x when you get to the area?
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: like after it fails 1x, try again?
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I have...I get the same things so I just do a mapper find blah mapper goto blah
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well you described it well with 'weird' i cant think of any reason why it would do that
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: could try restarting mush
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion is agreeing with that Ard Tiarna Grimvald person again...
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: tried that...even restarting my computer
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it might be helpful if we could see some screen output/shots of it occuring
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Is it possible that you don't actually have the rooms mapped?
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: if mapper find and goto find em and take her there, unlikely
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: no...I have had it for a LONG time and I am a level in area in Lidnesh :)
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Here is my problem and why I fear this channel...I am a computer idiot. I will give you any screen shot you want...just don't know how to take one
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't fear this channel, ever.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If someone treats you like an idiot, ignore them.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The good people will walk you through taking one.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: Tech channel has always been helpful for me ask away:)
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The easiest way to take a screenshot is to hit Print Screen, open up Paint, choose Paste, then save it. Then upload it somewhere, like imgur.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: most people on this channel are computer idiots
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear SirCanada has been here just a second ago. You wonder where he went ...
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if you have windows 7+ then use Snipping tool it is great
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I have 10...what is the snipping tool?
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: I recommend getting a program called greenshot or lightshot, it makes screenshots 1-2 steps, very easy
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I personally use Greenshot because it automatically loads the picture to my Dropbox, though I could save it to Imgur, too, and allows me to capture just regions.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SirCanada is agreeing with that Arcidayne person again...
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: please dont talk about snipping tools 
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if you want to share text output quickly, try this:  https://codeshare.io/
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Amya, go to Start -> Click on any letter to bring up the selection of letters. Choose W, then click Windows Accessories, then scroll to Snipping Tool.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: highlight on mush output window, ctrl-c, paste into there and share link
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Pastebin! Pro member here, haha.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i have used pastebin, codeshare.io was super easy too i was surprised.. and it updates when the source changes :)
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oo, looks nice. My Pastebin links update once I save the edits, but this one looks like real time. :p
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah its neat
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok...so i have picture of it...what do I do with it now
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: ooo a real time pastebin :)
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I pulled up that codeshare thing...but I don't know what it is
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Amya, if you have the picture, just upload it to something like imgur.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Go to imgur.com, select "New Post" (the green button at the top), then drag your file to the box there.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh boy, dont click the next link you see
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok...it is there...
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: oh yeah
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: michelelohmancooper
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Copy/paste the link to that image here, Amya.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: http://michelelohmancooper.imgur.com/all/?third_party=1
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's not to the image itself.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok...hold on
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The image link itself would look something similar to http://imgur.com/gallery/01wngy1
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: it doesn't fit on the picture :(
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: http://imgur.com/6IZYrBm
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well good luck i gotta afk, sorry
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: sigh
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What does it show when you type 'mapper where 28029?
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Without the quote, that is.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: it gives me the speedwalk[
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: what version mush are you using? type checkversion
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: You are currently using Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: r1900
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay, and what happens if you type: xmapper area deep in the forest?
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Sorry Amya, you can't do that.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Where did you get your version of S&D?
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Did you get it from the link in Winkle's description, or the link from Nokfah's description?
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: winklewinkle, I have had it for a while
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That may be the issue, then. Finger Nokfah, get the fix from him.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You'll need to uninstall the appropriate plugin, and you'll need to copy the state file from Nokfah to your Mushclient/worlds/plugins/state folder.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: so i am uninstalling s and d completely...got it
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: wait...state folder?
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeJean Tech: Path (your client folder)/worlds/plungins/state
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ummm ok...going to try that now
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ummm...ok found  the state file. When you open the s&d file there are 5 files, although one is just a note that explains what it is. Do I do all four? Do I copy/paste the link? Do I download them to on computer and then drag and drop?
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, only copy the state file from that link to the state folder. Everything else, you'd move to the plugins (except any readme files)
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Anyway, I hope it works for you, Amya. I gotta head to bed. Gotta wake up in about 6 hours for a fresh day of doing nothing but sitting and typing all day...
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: How do you turn off the TICK and {affoff} messages on Mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: autotick and tags spellups off
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: Do i need to script that or is that an option somewhere?
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: you type those two commands
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: Wew! Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: cheers
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: well I think I have done what I was supposed  to and it still doesn't work...'
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: In Mushclient, is there a way to call up an alias within an alias?
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: use Execute()
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: my s&d isn't working and now my map window is gone
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: For all those helping me with S&D...after all that...it was my prompt. I reset my prompt and all is well
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: for some  reason I can not have a prompt
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ziv Tech: S&D have a hard time Indexing the rooms that i have explored. It sometimes works after restarting the client. Anyone know what to do about that?
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: it has (probably) nothing to do with s&d, but with the mapper. try to 'mapper find <roomname>' with the same name, and click on it, to see if it takes as long. usually, it happens when it doesn't find a path (if the max number of steps is high enough)
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ziv Tech: mapper find is very fast and seems to work well.
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: on the same room, starting from the same location?
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: is there a way to use dofile but reference the default plugin directory, not necessarily the same folder as the current plug? This graps current directory: dofile (GetPluginInfo (GetPluginID (), 20) .. "telnet_options.lua") 
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: maybe the way to grab the main plugin folder is to use the plugin id for the aard_layout? dofile(GetPluginInfo("c293f9e7f04dde889f65cb90", 20) .. 
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: anyone know if there's a way to get the current mushclient install path from lua inside mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: getinfo > 56 - MUSHclient application path name
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=GetInfo
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: or maybe 66 - MUSHclient application directory
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: has anyone got a list of all the possible messages that indicate the start of double XP?
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's on the aard wiki. wiki.aardwolf.com -> General -> Mud Messages.
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ooh
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Main/MudMessages
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok so now I just need some double XP to see if it'll work
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj waves his hands about in grand gestures as he casts, "SUMMON DOUBLE!"
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: you can use echo
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok, it doesn't work :( how do I get a trigger to run some Lua code?
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I tried setting Send To to Script, but that doesn't seem to work
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You do need to send to script, but make sure it's valid Lua code.
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it works when I run it in the Immediate window
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the ctrl+i window that is
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Then your trigger might be off.
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it says it's enabled, but I don't know if I got the expression right
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Easy way to test it is just make the trigger something simple, like testtrigger, then echo testtrigger and see if it fires.
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If it does, your double pattern is wrong. If it doesn't, then something's not right elsewhere.
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: copy your trigger so we can see what youre doing
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: copy/paste here
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh ok I see what I got wrong, I was trying to escape all the special characters and stuff but actually it doesn't like that
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: now I need to figure out why it's saying "invalid escape sequence" for the commands
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't need to unless you've got it flagged regex.
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If it's based off your tech note, I'd change all the \\ to /
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh, will that work?
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: aww yiss
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok awesome, that works now
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I have to say though, even though it works, I'm a bit embarrassed by how clunky it is >.>
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: dont be ashamed, be proud! 
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it is not at all an elegant solution
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: if anybody wanted to try doing it natively, the dll the powershell module uses is here https://github.com/Windos/BurntToast/tree/master/BurntToast/lib/Microsoft.Toolkit.Uwp.Notifications
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but it's beyond me to figure out how to call that with LuaJIT in such a way that I can achieve the output I want
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: anyway, it's time I went off to bed... maybe I'll wake up and there'll be at least one double notification in my action centre :)
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: when i woke up my 'puter had crashed. said it cant repair w10. i rebooted it a few times only to see the blue screen of death for 0.5 seconds.
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i just reinstalled everything. works fine now
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: R.I.P. not a nice way to wake up
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: oh...ok, that's nice :)
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: dunno how long it'll last
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meldor Tech: scan harddrive for corrupt sectors
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i suspect the ssd. they say they are 
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: yep. they say they are ok but i smell a conspiracy
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: backup then scan disk
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i think they have done the wear tests in lab environment with top-notch power supplies and everything. all stable. the real world abuse is different or!... hear me out
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: ssds are made to fail to force people to use cloud services.
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Agreed, it is all Weather Incorporated's doing!
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: cool. wanna sign up for a prostest?
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: my 15 yearold hdd is fine btw. never had any issues.
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: if im remembering correctly isnt there a site that helps tell you what area a certain room name is in? if so what is it please
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: rooms.gaardian.com
T3/r7/2017-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: Is it possible to clear the value of a variable from within an alias, once a value has been set?
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: NVM, I think I see my problem.
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: Im trying to catch values from a plug-in and place those values into variables in MUSHClient, is that possible?
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: not sure what you mean but im sure its possible
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: I'm using an alias to call the mapper plugin and the thisroom function. I want to place the ID and Area values into variables. I have the triggers setup, but my trigger is not catching the test from the mapper thisroom output.
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you cannot trigger off of Note output
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mapper thisroom uses Notes to display text
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: makes sense. WAsn't thinking of the fact that the output was a note.
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: just get it from the GPMC values
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: use gmcp instead
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MushclientGMCP  explains gmcp
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: Thank you. I'll check that out.
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcon Tech: hi all, are there any packages for mudlet that make campaigns quicjer?
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcon Tech: quicker*
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: who runs the aardwolf wiki?
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: there's a typo in one of the double xp messages in the MudMessages article
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it's actually Below the flare, you hear <player> scream 'HEAR ME, FOR I HAVE CONQUERED!'
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: there's a comma in there that's not on the wiki page
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: just post a note on typos board
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: cool, now it works
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: wait
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: double during double?
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: what a rip
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: On muchclient, is there a way to change the miniwindows based on screen size?  My desktop screen shows a lot more than my laptop.
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't think so.
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, at least not without a whole lot of work.
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: hi guys, anyone know why when i try to copy a text with the colors it only gives me the end of the colors intead of everything? using mushclient.
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you need to double th @
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: like youmail  vs you@gmail
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: the last bought/removed/picked item will be the first in your inventory, and so the first to be worn
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: is the blowtorch client on the aardweb page any different to blowtorch v2?
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: they're a little different. But the aardwolf blowtorch is worse than regular blowtorch imo
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: yea
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Karang is agreeing with that Failurette Noegel person again...
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i like aard blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: worse as in more buggy?
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: it crashes when I try to import or export settings
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it has a version of the mapper right?
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: on my phone, some options don't work, I have to keep entering aard ip every couple days, and it crashes on import export
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I'm not sure. I never saw it
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: never saw the mapper I mean
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I play by memory haha
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: wasn't there like a v3 beta on the website once upon a time?
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: is there a general way to gag one of two blank sequential rows? I just wanna see one blank
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: compact?
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: ooooh, maybe. I will give it a shot. thanks, Morn
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holthausen Tech: 0h 10
T3/r7/2017-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: 10 what/
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: wow so there's been 6 double xps while I've been asleep
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: how do you escape a semicolon in mushclient so it sends a semicolon instead of going to a new command?
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shavrendil Tech: You type two of them.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: sweet thanks
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shavrendil goes: "No Problem!"
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You know, in the interest of keeping information private, you'd think work would allow for passwords longer than 12 characters.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: passwords should have a miniumn length, not a maximum.  IMHO
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: They have a minimum of 8 characters, but cannot go over 12 characters.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: shoudl all be whole passages from books
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: dumb
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: you should also need some virgin blood for each passage
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: My password is: It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera giggles at Tol's actions.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: call me ishmal
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm changing my password to this: "You're dangerous?" I guessed, my pulse quickening as I intuitively realized the truth of my own words. He was dangerous. He'd been trying to tell me that all along. He just looked at me, eyes full of some emotion I couldnt comprehend.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Twilight for the win. No one will guess that.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I like the password 1234567890
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: anyone know why the (level) isnt showing at the end of my equipment/inventory lines?
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: nothing is gagging it, i logged in on a vanilla cmud client to check
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You typed noobjlevel
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what in the world!
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Or more likely typed noo
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Probably was trying to call someone a noob and didn't realize it turned it off.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over Arcidayne's head.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh i do remember typing noo thinking it was a social :p
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: my bad... you were probs calling me a n00b :)
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: like Noooooo!
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: what a strange command..
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Wish there were a way to make all but a few commands strict...
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I end up with 30 or 40 aliases just to keep myself from accidentally typing something :P
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: nod... i have an alias for .(*) that literally just echos "WRONG!" at me
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: We need a "strictcommand" option.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: My preferred method is to slap self....
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: bad example, but you catch my drift
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But for some like nb for newbie I probably wouldn't like it...
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't tell me what I catch, Koopatroopa.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Maybe all config options should be strict....
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I think that's probably the best way to handle...
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa slaps Arcidayne.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Someone else suggest I'm going back afk!
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Get off your lazy duff and suggest it yourself.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Noo is how we got into this mess in the first place.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i vote endy... he brought it up
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: Any bast spellup users, for some reason my plugin insists on running 'pass' instead of 'trace' for the 'pass without a trace' spellup. any idea how to change that?
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meldor Tech: alias pass to trace
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: you sneaky hacker!
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Meldor gallantly tips his hat to NeverToBeSeen.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meldor Tech: ..
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nevela is indeed nowhere to be seen
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boze Tech: i made a simple multi command alias to "gotobed" (enter, run to beds, sleep in the beds). If i just paste the command it works. If i use the alias, it says i can't do that. MUSH client. any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: You're using semicolons, right?
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Show us your alias
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boze Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: no, I dont
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shavrendil Tech: If you're sending to World, don't use semicolons - send each command in its own line
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boze Tech: ahh gotcha. makes sense, thanks!
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: Wait, we're not supposed to use semicolons when sending to world?
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Not in the alias body. They'll get sent to the world.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shavrendil Tech: Sending to world means Mush will not process the text in any way, so will not split the command at semicolons.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boze Tech: yep, works like a charm, thanks again
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: Ohh, so don't use semicolons if it's an alias. Gotcha
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no, dont use semicolons if its sending to world :p
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shavrendil Tech: You can use semicolons if you're sending to Execute, but then the commands may actually run other aliases - which may or may not be what you want
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: So, for example, I can't say "home: run s2w2n: c word" in an alias, but if I'm typing it myself in the... execute line, it will work?
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: semicolon ; not colon :
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: Did that on purpose so it wouldn't separate, unless it doesn't do that if they're in quotes
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: double the ;
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: for channels
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: ;tech stuff with semicolo;morestuff;etc solves the issue
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: Mhmm
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: if i want to connect a monitor that only has hsmi port to a surface book that only has mini dp ports
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: do i just need a cable with hdmi on one end and mini dp on the otherx or do i jeed some lind of adapter
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i have to assume if theres a cable with the appropriate connector on each end then its compatible
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: well there are cables and then there are these fubky adapters and im confused what to use
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mini-DP-to-HDMI-Female-Adapter/661099104?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=3851&adid=22222222222075761411&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=e&wl1=o&wl2=c&wl3=83150568911437&wl4=kwd-4586750195722351&wl12=661099104_10000003936&wl14=hdmi%20to%20mini%20dp&veh=sem
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: vs a cable woth male on both ends...
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: well, that took 3 seconds to look up, try it yourself
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i would go for both males, 1 less point of failure.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: thats a lot cheaper than amazon
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: DisplayPort is backwards compatible with VGA, DVI and HDMI through the use of passive and active adapters.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so passive will work, active if you need extended range i assume
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: ok what does that even mean
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: passive is just a cable with the connectors you need on each end, plug in and it works
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Active means it interprets and reprocesses the signal.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: a male mdp / hdmi has no adapters, right
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: On mushclient, is there a way to make the status bars vertical?
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Right-click on it.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You'll want "Stack bars". Unless you mean the you want the gauges themselves to be vertical rather than horizontal.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If that's the case, then no.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: How would you script an alias?
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: very carefully!
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Depends on what type of alias you're scripting.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i mean, can you be more specific
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne wants to script this beautiful thunderstorm into his bedroom.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: how about something simple like 'get amulet bag'?
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Then do a MUDside alias.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You would just do: alias ga get amulet bag
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or whatever you want the alias to be.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: Ok.  Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I WAS JOKING ABOUT THE THUNDERSTORM! ... loud crash and bright flash right outside my window...
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkheadwolf Tech: how do i set a alias for fire and sleep ?i used the ' in every way i can think off
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkheadwolf Tech: im on a android
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: does anyone know how to escape the semicolon on the android client?
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinetease Penthesilea Tech: so I upgraded mush to r1920, now I keep getting this prompt error "You cannot find {prompt." Can anyone help me fix it?
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinetease Penthesilea Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I wonder if its the prompt fixer.
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinetease Penthesilea Tech: it prolly is, I just don't know how to fix the fixer :)
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinetease Penthesilea Tech: it works perfectly fine for my mortal
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ask Fiendish wben he is about. As an Imm, I seem to recall your prompts are different.
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinetease Penthesilea Tech: so you think it might be stuff that's not normally available to mortals?
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah. When I wrote a script for Rhuli, had to modify because of Imm settings.
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinetease Penthesilea Tech: I see, well, I'll write a note to him, thank you.
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sure!
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinetease Penthesilea Tech: wow, I love this! Replaying all channel messages received while in note writing mode...
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: turn on echocommand?
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: then you can see what your client is sending at least
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: any particular reason why Aardwolf blowtorch's text input Window Makes text invisible till i hIt the space Button or Send¿ 
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: Is there a tick plugin for mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: what art/photo/note page is a good one?
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: I want to keep notes, make memes and simple photo stuff
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: Notepad, Memegenerator, Gimp? Unless I'm misunderstanding you
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: notepad is good...I had a photo thing i loved but it was many comps ago
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: cant remember the name of it
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: what exactly was this used for? editing?
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: if I wanted to set a trigger to drink from a canteen everytime I get thirsty, I would put ## You are dehydrated as the trigger and drink canteen as the c9mmand that it triggers, correct?
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: sounds right
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: K thanks.
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: does anyone use mudlet?  i kinda lost my status bars.
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TribbleLord Tech: I use mudlet
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TribbleLord Tech: Did you remove and reinstall MAG_110 ?
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: Hmmmm...i may have
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TribbleLord Tech: Yeah when I lost that and my map I just messed around with the Package Manager and Scripts buttons and after several restarts they came back
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TribbleLord Tech: Also make sure Allow GMCP is checked under Settings
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: Thanks for that little bit of information Tribblelord.  I went back to the website and behold, it told me to run that one line of code again.
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TribbleLord Tech: Lulz
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: is it possible to use some of the plugins from mushclient and use them in mudlet?
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Nope. I started looking into that, and ended up writing my own.
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Either forgo the mapper in Mushclient, or run mush in wine.
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Mush in wine is actually not bad.
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TribbleLord Tech: I've tried running the official Aardwolf Mushclient thing in Wine and I was not a fan
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: I actually like how aliases work better in mudlet though mushclient does have miniwindows.
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TribbleLord Tech: But Mushclient by itself in wine is ok
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: I personally went through 3 separate packages of wine before I found a crew that did it well.
T3/r7/2017-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: You guys seem somewhat savvy with mudlet.  Is it possible to make mudlet windowed?
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: what's the mush client syntax to use a variable (in an alias?) i.e. if I type al X or Y, i'd like the alias to come out alias X or alias Y
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: GetVatiable('variable_name')
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: variable*
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: sorry, i mean for X or Y to be whatever I type, not an actual pre-set variable
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: SetVariable(), GetVariable()
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: al (*) = al %1
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: ah yeah that one thanks
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: is there a way to use aliases for mapper commands in Mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: chenge the send to box from world to execute
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phyban Tech: think I've somewhat fixed Nick Gammon's Inventory plugin.
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phyban Tech: Is there any interest in this or a place to upload it?
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: There's a few inventory manager plugins floating around
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: pretty sure Bast has an updated one
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phyban Tech: thanks, I'll look at that.
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: or you can host it somewhere and put the link in your finger info
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peaceful Wars Tech: ok so having trouble getting S&d loaded all 3 plugins fail to load and pop up a birg screen of text that means nothing to me. I also get this client side. Line   35: Attribute name 'data-pjax-transient' not followed by '=' (Cannot load)   as a failure for all 3 plugins
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peaceful Wars Tech: any thoughts?
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Loaded in the wrong order?
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Put the whole screen of text that you mentioned on a pastebin as well
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peaceful Wars Tech: no matter what one I pick first same thing happens
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peaceful Wars Tech: kk
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peaceful Wars Tech: https://pastebin.com/UJhhy0m3   the top part of it is what i see client side the second is the text that pops up after
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peaceful Wars Tech: did that elaborate anything?
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peaceful Wars Tech: ok so with S&D does it matter what version mush I have in the xml it says <!-- MuClient version 4.31 --> but im runnin 4.98 mush
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: How do I test a trigger if the text for the trigger is generated by someone else's actions?
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: help echo?
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: make a friend
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: ctrl shift F12
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: ctrl+shift+f12 will emulate mud output, also there's the "echo" command in-game
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Thanks!!
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemura Tech: how nasty do you think to modify mapper to save room desc as well? 
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Very.
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Includes changing the schema of the mapper databqse (again)
T3/r7/2017-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Could note Fiendish and ask if he can add it as a feature, though. For him, it wouldn't be all that difficult. It'd still require changing the schema, though, as there's no column for room descriptions.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I tend to go AFK in random places I shouldn't.  Any idea how to have me recall if idle to long using combination triggers/alias in Mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Automatic movement is illegal
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Good point, nevermind
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: which helpfile specifically says that 
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: you can set your config to recall if attacked, but it is not a sure thing.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: the best best is to idle in your manor or other safe room.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: manors are for the rich! I'm the 99 percent
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: so automatic recalling would be illegal? you can't gain anything from recalling (other than the accidental improving of the skill maybe)
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: I was wrong, you can attempt to autorecall if you lose your link, not if you are attacked.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I just tend to walk off and forget, if I die whatever but I do feel bad about slowing down the repops for others
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: engaging a mob while you are AFK is illegal no matter what you do. But there are degrees. As I said, your best bet is to idle in a safe room.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: Karang, being the absent-minded player is really not a excuse. We can't tell whether you are or not.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Fair enough I'm not even arguing it honestly.  Can't say its a deal breaker quite honestly
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so his question started out as a way to auto-recall if idle for too long
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some idle in a roon full of killable mobs - out of politeness, some other players leave those mobs untouched
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: that part of the help file is clear. but the initial question was regarding autorecall if idle (that doesn't necessarily imply an aggro room)
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: and has turned into him afk killing.  he's trying to avoid that.  are we not allowed to auto-recall after a set time?
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: If he's using the MUSH or Aard client, how about setting up a timer the it turned on via a trigger 
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think having a trigger to autorecall if idle for X time is perfectly legitimate
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: I see no problems with it, as long as that is all it does.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah i was confused because bamboo said automatic movement was illegal
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: you remember the minute you enter combat while AFK you are botting.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: automatic movement that gains you something is illegal
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the game almost requires an auto-script to play the game legally (a script to prevent/decline "illegal" actions typed in by a player)
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Perhaps setup additional triggers to recall if idle and engaged by an agro mob?
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Liber laughs out loud at Xyliz.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: not true, if you are always at the keyboard, there is no need to have a script to keep you legal.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: That is my main guideline regarding botting. I try to avoid that completely. If it's legal, sure. Either way, it's what I believe in
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: this recall timer trigger cannot be linked to a any other trigger that carries out any other activity. It is simply a method of going to a safe room if one idles too long. It may not work as part of system of activity processing.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: is Xyliz suggesting that, to play Aard, you need to design a script that keeps you from stacking multiple rooms?
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: I really didn't pay attention.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: why would one need such a script?
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: an example is an auto-script that looks at direction moves typed in by a player (while fighting), and refuses to move immediately if fighting (the auto-cript may convert the direction to a retreat (as an toggle-option)
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: the mud rejects movement commands while in combat anyway.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I think the 'don't stack move and attack' ban should be very strictly interpreted. I mean exactly in that order. I don't see any problem with stacking attack and then move (for example, a lot of flees, retreats, recalls, etc)
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: As long as the last command in the stack is not a kill command, it is fine.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: k;down is fine, k;down;k is not
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there was a forum note stating: wait until fighting is completely finished before stacking a direction move
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so we're arguing scripting a move vs stacking a move.  interesting debate :p
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: no, we're arguing if it's illegal to stack move-kill, kill-move, or both :)
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: last time i read the rule is was pretty clear.  as anaristos stated..  k;move is ok.  move;k is not.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there is a temptation for some players to enter a direction move when there is a lag pause after a kill even though fighting may not be finished (since the lag pause seems to indicate fighting stopped)
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: well, if the mud does accept the move there is nothing wrong, after all it is a k;move
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it doesnt matter. there's nothing to be gained by stacking move after kill.  thinking move;kill would be against the rules is like stating you cant retreat or flee because you are fighting still
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: @xyliz that is :)
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: well, let's rethink this k;move scenario for a second. If you are in an aggro area such as Crynn, k;move may be a bit tricky because it is almost sure that you will enter combat at the end of the move.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: so you end up with a mob-aided bot.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: is it a bot if you are typing it though?  how does stacking change anything from a regular move?
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: now, when you enter your alias, or hit your macro key, you are adding to a situation in progress that will continue. In aggro areas the best thing to do is to stop at the end of combat in each room.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: so add in someone with an auto-quaffer Endy and what do you have if you can enter an area, type a direction and watch combat unfold in crynn
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: by that logic, if "move+kill" is illegal, then any "move" in an aggro area is illegal if that move leads to a fight
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: no, you end combat in one room, you move to the next and if you are attacked you are attacked. If you enter kill;move, you have no control when you enter the second room, you are in combat without the opportuinity to enter any other command such as c 82, flee or retreat <dir>
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: by that logic, a speedwalk to christmas vacation is illegal if the snowman is going to attack
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but you already said that movement is rejected while in combat.  so that is not possible
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: when you get to the entrance to xmas you can flee, retreat <n> or recall.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but if Liber likes to stack umpteen spell attacks plus a move ...
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: then he takes the chance that he will have a mob-aided bot.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: if you are in an aggro room, finish doing whatever in on room before you enter a move command to the next.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes but lets add common sense.  the act is not illegal, its the use of it.  if its used in aggro areas then it leads to botting.  it is not botting in and of itself
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: yes, it is true that you may end up botting without intending to do it, it is still illegal.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some stack umpteen spell attacks, and then near the end of fighting inadvertently add a move in anticipation of the fight ending in a few seconds
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: it is illegal because that was not the only course of action, you took the chance that you could end up botting.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: inadvertedly?
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: you mean, they didn't know what they were typing?
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: hence the auto-script to prevent/decline/exclude inadvertent "illegal" moves
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: So is this a new rule, or are we talking hypothetically?
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: new rule concerning what?
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: Spank, rad help stacked commands.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Botting
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peaceful Wars Tech: acidental botting is still botting... accidently going afk in a agro room will prob get you a warning if you explain yourself but it is still illegal. dont ride the line stay away from it
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when a player is pupping hundreds of mobs, a few inadvertent moves may creep into the long process
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: then before you know it you have 500k+ pups, meanwhile some noob gets the third degree about a recall trigger
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: so for strict perfect play, an auto-script to examine and prevent/decline/exclude the occasional rare inadvertent "illegal" move(s)
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I think a distinction should be made between scripts that move and stacking moves
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: all the above are true for scripts that move
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: "whats the difference" would be my obviously stupid question
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: if you move (manually) and start a fight with aggros, I can't see how that's botting
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: every time you move in an aggro area you're starting a fight
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: can't be illegal each time. can't be considered stacking move and attack!
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peaceful Wars Tech: its not liber if you are at the comp
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: fine, just don't attach the move to a kill command
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: after all the action in THIS room is over you then can enter a move command which may end up having you enter combat because you are attacked.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Anyone have a good resource for tintin++? As in so I can learn to use it?
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Main computer is dead so I am having to play off of a raspberry pi for now, at least I can ssh in from work heh
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: well if anyone has any resources (cheat sheets, usefull setup options, common commands) that they think would be useful, please send me a note on personal. So far the experience has been lack luster lol
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: Anyone know of a plugin that does this? inv
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: wow...
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lord Azaghal buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: read porn out loud to you?  nope, I don't.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: Anyone know of a plugin that does this? When you scan/survery, pops up a window the shows the current mobs in the room? And if it was really cool, make the mobs names clickable to maybe attack that mob?
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: I wrote one, but that's only because i couldn't find one.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: does it work as expected?
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: It works like a charm. :) But only for mudlet.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i ahve one that populated a miniwindow with the mobs currently in the room (with glance or look) but isn't clickable, its jsut a display
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: someone on here made it for me custom... its mush
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: has one bug, but its very minor
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: abe made it
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: ooo nice
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: yeah im using much
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Mine sorts them by agro/align, and reserves the first four characters of the mob in an index incase I want to attack.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: send me your email and I'll send it to you.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it's a trap
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: send me your credit card number:)
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: email trap!
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: maybe my ip address too?
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: sure I'll give you this thing. just let me know your home address, sleeping schedule, and write down a list of your biggest fears.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: worth!
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: after double
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: sent
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: if either of you fix that minor bug, send me the fixed version.  :)
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: woot awesome
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: How do I change the background color using mush? Two liner of code that follows: Note (GetCustomColourBackground (10))  SetCustomColourBackground (14, 0) 
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hmm, have attempted three different tutorials on setting up emailing from a ubuntu system to the outside world.. I can't seem to figure this out
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Are you trying to set up an email client to talk to the outside world, or actually setting up an SMTP server?
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: smtp server, I want to email myself when the temps on my comp go up to high
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You don't necessarily need a local smtp server for that.. Which one are you trying to use?
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: which tutorial?
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Which SMTP server.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: yeah, you don't need to setup an SMTP server for that
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: use Python and just connect to something like gmail for SMTP if you make a dummy mailbox that you don't care about the pword for
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: several ssmtp, msmtp-mta, posfix
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Postfix is the shiznit, in my experience.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: couldn't get it set up with my gmail account
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Try this: https://www.linode.com/docs/email/postfix/configure-postfix-to-send-mail-using-gmail-and-google-apps-on-debian-or-ubuntu
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: hrm. I would have too peek, but I have done Gmail smtp through vbscript and powershell. I have to imagine bash and python have easy ways to do it as well
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: metria can you explain the postfix step with  fqdn.example.co
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am not sure what needs to go here
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sardoth Tech: what does connection terminated by peer mean
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Means the other side closed the connection.
T3/r7/2017-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sardoth Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: How do I use SetCustomColourBackground in Mush?  It doesn't seem to set color when I use it
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliphant Tech: I have winklewinkle's spellup plugin, but my Precision isn't refreshing. What's up with this?
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: it doesn't support precision
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliphant Tech: My berserk refreshes fine, so it can't be that
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliphant Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sardoth Tech: im so forgetful can someone tell me what causes mycotic aneurysms 
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sardoth Tech: emote belives that ppl dont know hes giving away tp for answers
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sardoth Tech: .......aaaaannnnd 
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sardoth Tech: time gone awitching channels
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Considering this is the tech channel and not medical...
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I could tell you, but a google search will give you more information. Stop being lazy.
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Is there a way to restore your plugins? All of my plugins are gone and its just the standard mush client now. Not even the standard mush client actually. It doesnt even show my health and stuff.
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Or maybe load a backup?
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Or maybe my guis are just hidden?
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: I am trying to nod at an elf and the client is acting as if I typen nothing in.
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Maybe the elf cannot see you
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: try *nod elf
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: which was it?
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: it was *nod elf
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion walks around saluting nobody in particular. Weirdo.
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Strictsocials ftw
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not bad. Humble Bundle includes a year's license for Panda Antivirus AND Windscribe VPN for $12.
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sound Forge, Windscribe, Panda Antvirus, Corel Painter Essentials 5, LastPass Premium License for 1 year, Corel Photobrush ParticleShop AND Aftershot, MAGIX Music Maker, Soda PDF Home, and 6 month license for CloudApp Pro... all for at least $12.
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But that Windscribe... year license is $90 alone.
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: My client keeps disconectinng saying that output buffer was 99.8%
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: How can I fix that?
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: turn on paging maybe?
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what were you doing when it disconnected?  stating the buffer is 99.8% does not mean thats WHY it was disconnecting
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if you were listing notes or something else very longwinded it could be due to no paging as emm said
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: some connections will sever if you get too much data feed to quickly
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but the % used will show any time you disconnect
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: and the buffer maxing out would be one reason it could do that
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no the mush buffer is the lines in memory, wont disconnect
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: ooh
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: the buffer is just the number of lines you have set to display and keep a record of in your main window. has nothing to do with disconnecting you
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I was thinking the tcp buffer
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if you are set to buffer 1000, then you will always have up to 1000 lines of scrollback
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion nods at Emm.
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: GMCP Mapper: Disconnected
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: are you getting disconnected while playing the game or while you are idle?
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: you have to do things to keep your connection alive when idle, even if it is just sending a return line to the mud every 10 minutes or so
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i think you're on to somethind dash
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: GMCP Mapper: Disconnected
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: again, mapper disconnected isnt the reason why
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Sorry meant to copy paste XD
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: meaningless info, metropolice. it is reporting that it is no longer mapping because you went offline
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: didnt really work too well.
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: lice. oops
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: answer my question before copy/pasting more
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: metropolice lol sounds scary
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: common causes of disconnects, spam if too much is scrolling too quickly, idle if you don't do anything for 10 minutes or so, spotty wifi or other network instabilities.
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: also some plugin or script bugs can cause a disconnect, but you should see a very obvious error message if that was the case
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: literally during this conversation I have disconected 6 times
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: and presumably you aren't tinkering with plugins or scripts
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: well that sucks, try rebooting?
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: you hardwired or wireless?
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: reboot, reboot your router, standard internet stuff
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah sounds like crappy connection to me
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: keep a ping going to google or something else
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: It happens while i am playing the game.
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: see if it lags out or drops a bunch when you discnnect
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: K
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: bring your task manager up, and look for memory or cpu usage spikes
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: check your connection. if that is actually stable and it is just mushclient disconnecting, it could be more serious like a plugin erroring and spamming commands to the mud which is causing the mud to kick you due to spam protection
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: yeah if all that doesn't return results try connecting on another client (even a simple telnet client)
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: note that that should only happen if you recently changed a plugin or tried making edits on one yourself. or if you added a trigger that you omitted output for and it is spamming you out
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: and if it doesn't disconnect then you will need to think about mushclient issues.
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: some days tech support is like medicine, differential diagnosis and insufficient information.
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: I opened up task manager, nothing spiked during the disconects.
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: and talking through the thing having issues is like trying to talk when you've had your tongue ripped out
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: haha
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: try connecting via telnet or the webclient or something
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: metro, type 'tech -h 15' or tech -h 20 to see what has been said while you were gone
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: easier than repeating
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: and see if it discoonnects
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: open up cmd.exe and do: ping aardwolf.net n 500
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: your task manager wont show network interruptions
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that is: ping aardwolf.net -n 500
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sorry :/
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: right task manager will show if the cpu or memory is locking up
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: ping to see if network is droping packets
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you can do control-c to cancel the pings
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well mush will hang if cpu or memory problems, not disconnect and show it
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I have had client hangups that caused the link to sever, presumably from the mud thinking I had stopped responding
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Whoaaaahhhh
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: though to be fair most of mine are caused by a programing client like matlab or spyder eating my cpu/memory for several minutes
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: The ping thing froze my cmd.exe and lagged aard like crazy
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you got some issues then, shouldnt freeze anything doing a ping test 500 times
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what are some results?
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: definitely reboot the computer as a first step
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you want to see something like: Reply from 23.111.136.202: bytes=32 time=51ms TTL=47
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Tried it again. this time it said could not find host name aardwolf.net
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: ping command causing freezes is really non-standard behavior
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: ping google.com
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: should she not also ping some other website to make sure it's not within her network?
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if rebooting doesnt help then reset your wireless router, modem etc.. anything between your pc and the net
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah its probably the router
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: could be regional too, but better to try the things you can control
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: {Ping to google.com Min: 38ms Avg: 39ms Max: 43ms}
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: {Ping to aardmud.org Min: 62ms Avg: 63ms Max: 64ms}
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: gimme
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: please? :)
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: This is so weird though. It has NEVER done this before today.
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: the connection or the plugin?
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the plugin lol
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: was gonna say my pings to google are <9 ms
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ooo mine avg 33
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no!
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: https://pastebin.com/ZUVZEr0S -- if you want the alias. It's simple: ping <channel> <location>
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mistell
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: sadly mine is up to 13ms
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I think it's Windows-specific, though I could be wrong. Only downside is having to open up a cmd window briefly.
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh it executes then reads results.  neat
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: bytes=32 time=95ms TTL=51
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: About the only way to do it through Lua.
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: well I have to actually get work done tomorrow so good luck sorting this all out folks
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: later
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: nighty night
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Night, Emm.
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Guess it was just my wifi?
T3/r7/2017-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: my wireless router is always the culprit with network issues
T3/r7/2017-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuli Tech: My MUSHclient crashes immediately upon opening it. So I got myself a fresh install, but I would like to keep my mapper database at least. How do I do this?
T3/r7/2017-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuli Tech: How do I copy my mapper database to a new MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2017-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You just copy over the Aardwolf.db file
T3/r7/2017-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuli Tech: Does said file have a backup somewhere? Since my Aardwolf.db seems to have crashed when my MUSH did. I say this because when I copied the file over, there was nothing inside when I opened the new MUSH...
T3/r7/2017-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you had mapper backups on, yes. It should be under the backups folder on Mushclient root.
T3/r7/2017-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: and it should be on by default
T3/r7/2017-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: for meit's backed up in db_backups folder
T3/r7/2017-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuli Tech: So could I just copy this into the root directory: Aardwolf.db.Backup_Automatic? Should I rename it?
T3/r7/2017-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Rename it to just Aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2017-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: i'd also recommend making a copy of your db_backups directory right now
T3/r7/2017-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: in case you accidentally overwrite all your good copies by restarting mush too many times :) although it does make quite a few already
T3/r7/2017-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Hell I did 10 min ago from this convo =p
T3/r7/2017-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: you can delete it once you get everything working (the copied folder)
T3/r7/2017-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Anyone searching for a good VPN, Windscribe is part of the Humble Bundle, and is $12 for a full year license.
T3/r7/2017-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Otherwise $90 MSRP.
T3/r7/2017-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmm, I don't use LastPass. Perhaps I should give away the 1-year license for it, too.
T3/r7/2017-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh i use KeePass
T3/r7/2017-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I used to. Now I use Google Smart Lock, heh.
T3/r7/2017-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hmm i may have to try that one out.  i use keepass with the chrome plugin for auto populate.  would be great to bypass login entirely
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmm, shame. Netflix and Windscribe don't seem to work with each other at all.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliphant Tech: "Alias function xrun_to not found or had a previous error" every time I try to use xrt for S&D - what's the issue?
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: which version of S&D are you running? where did you get it? did you try to reload related plugins?
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That error is directly related to WInkle's S&D in conjunction with any MUSHclient package past 1825 (or usually is, rather)> Ergo, he needs to get the S&D version from Nokfah's page.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliphant Tech: Thank you both, Nevela and Arcidayne.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliphant Tech: I am indeed using Winkle's S&D
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: I didn't help much, but there are a couple of flavors for S&D, read through the tech board
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So does anyone here use LastPass?
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliphant Tech: If I change my S&D to the newer version, will it affect the rooms I've already explored?
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliphant Tech: oh, goodie, so I don't lose anything
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliphant Tech: I just disable the current s&d and install the new one, correct?
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i would delete them. but move to a diff temp directory, install new ones, and delete the files in temp (just in case)
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: does mushclient have a command to practice all skills?
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: there are some plugins that allow you to set a list of what skills to practice, though.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: just installed AardStarling's S&D 1.3.1 testing noexp feature
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: doesn't seem to work
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Bring it up with Starling, then. :p
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: yup, trying to find specifics in order to identify what needs to be fixed, but once he's here i'll see if he can identify it better
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: see she's online, will send tell
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: feature works, the only bug is with a cp that was taken with an old S&D and then finished with the new one
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: GJ Starling
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: info chan is open, I have multiple settings open + GQ but I suspect something removes them from my output, I have now updated my com log to forward INFO see if it helps. bah
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: that sorted it out
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So does anyone use LastPass?
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda raises her hand.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Free version or Premium?
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: free version
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but I'm thinking about changing away from it
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: free
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: sarah?
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: linux
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't use it myself. Only reason I'm asking is because I have a 1-year Premium license to give away, figured I'd give it to someone here.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't like that lastpass is unsafe if you allow for offline primary login
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Anyway, anyone interested in the license? It was part of the Humble Bundle I got the other day.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't need it. :p
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Me neither. I'm happy with the free version
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: if it was lifetime i'd be all over it :D
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers with SirCanada about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I was just happy with the year's free Windscribe VPN. :D
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Spending $12 for a $90 license? Hell yeah.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hyacinthe Tech: Can someone help me enable automatic room data sending via GMCP for mapping?
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You don't enable it, the plugin does.  Are you using mush?
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hyacinthe Tech: no, I have a custom client I've been working on
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Then take a look at Fiendish's chat plugin...it has telopt options that show how it is turned on.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hyacinthe Tech: great- thanks!
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: or his gmcp mapper plugin is what I mean
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Anyone here use kodi? Why is file name matching to tv show so conservative?
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: so i remember the S&D question coming up before about an error with "no such column: r.date_added"  but i cant remember the fix... anyone?
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you have to use a newer S&D
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: from nokfah or starling 
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: k.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Fiendish: Someone asked before about adding room descriptions to mapper database. I told them it would require changing the database to do that, but also told the person to request it as a feature. What are your thoughts on adding room descriptions?
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for what?
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: They were looking for the room's description to be added to the mapper.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well, yes, naturally, but why?
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am guessing as a quick reference for something.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Presumably to be able to search room descriptions, too.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well I'm not opposed to it in principle. it just means larger db files
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Downside is that room descs aren't in GMCP, either.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is what I was thinking.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So you'd have to capture between rdesc tags.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it will also mean re-saving all previously stored rooms as you pass through them, which could cause a bit more of (temporary) annoying slowdown if I don't change how the mapper works with data
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You could have the option of it not adding room description, but manually turning that part on.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I had considered a long time ago changing the mapper to do everything in memory and only write to disk periodically, but that project got interrupted
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bayne Tech: how do i close out info windows in mushclient? I'm trying to close the ascii map window
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Disable the plugin
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bayne Tech: ty
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akrasia Tech: anyone know how to use a variable in an alias?
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Several do.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo slaps Arcidayne.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lundfu laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Well he's not wrong
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo slaps Birdbrain Metria.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It was a direct question.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Akrasia slaps Tricksy Bamboo.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo starts moaning.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Received a direct answer.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: do you just mean like alias k * to backstab %1
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akrasia Tech: more like cast changingcombatspell %1
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Need to know what client you're using
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akrasia Tech: if i make a variable for changingcombatspell
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akrasia Tech: mushclient
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so you want an alias that casts your current combat spell on whatever you type?
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akrasia Tech: essentially yes
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akrasia Tech: input = k mob
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akrasia Tech: output c combatspell mob
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Use a MUDside alias for that.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: well the simplest way to do that is to just alias k to c 'combatspell'
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akrasia Tech: yeah but it's easier to change on a regular basis with a variable
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: alias k c <spell> -- then type 'k mob', and it'll cast the spell on the mob. Then you update k whenever.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No it's not.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but im assuming you want it to be a variable so it can like autoupdate when you level up to a new spell level or something
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hashetus Tech: alias k 'c combatspell $1' ???
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akrasia Tech: yes because i want multiple lines
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akrasia Tech: k mob = 5 lines of cast
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: ahh well you could do k * have five lines of j %1 and then just have a mud alias for j to be cast 'current combat spell'
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akrasia Tech: smart, thank you
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: then you just update the mudside alias whenever you want to change which combat spell you use
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akrasia Tech: that doesn't work for some reason
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: for me I just made a mushclient alias for any number followed by a space and additional text to do the text that number of times
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so if I type 10 j prince it does j prince 10 times
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so I can choose how many times I want to loop it
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can do the same thing with ^#(\d+) (.*?)$ and a for loop
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: and using double semicolons I can actually do things like 10 j mob;j mob;quaff heal
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hashetus Tech: whoa now, regex pro
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's my code. :P
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: yeah thats pretty much what I did
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: ^(\d+) (.*)$
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: omg so loose
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: the # isn't needed afaik
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: THe # is so you prefix it with #
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I think it was to replicate zmud behavior
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: ahh yeah
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I don't like having to use shift key though
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so I just have it so I just have to type the number I want
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I also have one that if I just type a number with nothing following it it does xcp %1
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: and one for l(/d) * .* that does a loop from 1 to %1 of %2 to %1.%3
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so I can where 1.citizen, 2.citizen, etc
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: or tell or whatever other command I want to loop
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: anyone has a script for tracking deaths/level stats etc'
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You mean myrank 8? :p
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: sorry to vague on my account not level per death, but something that will set a timer between levels, count the mob kills and exp
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I was gonna say... Get a calculator haha
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i just write notes and then build a spreadsheet
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: oh yeah, better if i learn lua i guess
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: come on people I know 70 percent of the people I group with have those annoying Gtell messages on level
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: finger bast
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: someone gots to have one
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sharpshooter, is one.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that's the most common one
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: i have the bast suite, which plugin will give me that functionality endymion?
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: statmonitor
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I enlist the services of Abelinc for this purpose
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I think he uses an abacus hidden in a box, but he won't tell
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: just reach into the box to find out
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You don't wanna reach into Abe's box.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: thanks endymion, checking it out
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: with bast you get stuff like:  Quest finished for 19+2+5+2 = 28qp. It took 00m:15s. Avg: 25.32 qp/quest over 9775 quests.
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I should really add on to my Themed Tracker. :\
T3/r7/2017-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: not sure if he updated for OPK bonus, i modified an older script
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: well noe exploring statmon, so far I am not seeing what i look for, I want something like: time took to level: 20 minutes, mob kills: 40, avg exp per mob 200 etc'
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its in there
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: endymion for some reason the commands don't register statmn etc' any knowledge of this bug?
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Gained a level: 34hp 30mp 37mv 2+1B=3 trains 12 pracs 20m:22s 32 mobs killed (156.16xp/mob 245xp/min)
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: how about:  statmn help
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: do you have the plugin installed?
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its called StatMonitor in the list
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: statmn doesn't work
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: did you check your plugin list?  under the Name field you should see StatMonitor in the list
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: statmn or statmn help both show help for me
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: plugin seemed to load sucessfuly without any errors, which version of bast are you running? and which mushclient? all latest?
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: got it Endymion
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: lil bastard started in disabled for some reason
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: is there a command to say in mushclient "on the next tick, do this"
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: make a trigger on the ->TICK<-
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hmm yeah but it's more of a one time thing
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: like, I wouldn't want it to go off every time there's a tick
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: triggers are a more than a one time thing
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah this is why I am asking if there is a way to just do it one time
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: you would need to set it to one time fire or it would go off every -->TICK<--
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: have it fire and turn itself off and turn it back on with an alias?
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ya mushclient
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: the bottle check box on triggers (right hand column) Oneshot
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: bottom
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: EnableTrigger()
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: iirc
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: you could make an alias that set up a new one time trigger
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: do they go away after they fire or do they have to be manually removed/deleted
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: if you also click temporary it will go away
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: wouldn't want my triggers getting cluttered up with old onetime triggers
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: just make one that you toggle, much easier
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: how do you turn mccp compression on
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: The client turns it on behind the scenes, if it supports it.
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What client are you using?
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's amusingly frustrating how many people write LUA and not the proper form, Lua. You don't call it VBSCRIPT, or JAVA, or RUBY... so why the distinction with Lua?! Gah.
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: tech is full of TLAs, so it's not surprising that a lot of folks think a three letter name like Lua is an acronym
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Then those people should be able to provide what "LUA" stands for, then.
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Strike the second "then"
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i only asked him to post a writing of any sort
T3/r7/2017-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phyban Tech: what do you do if your inventory is corrupted?
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phyban Tech: Got a bad item, rerequesting inventory data for Inventory
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phyban Tech: inventory fixed when plugin disabled
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peaceful Wars Tech: anyone remember how to add clanskill to winkles autospellup?
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: ww help
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: setclansn
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peaceful Wars Tech: ty
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Stomp: Do you have them saved as MCA and MCT files?
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: heyas. can anyone help me with some color problems in mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Maybe? Gonna need a lot more info. Be as specific as possible.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: well i have the aardwolf symbol in the back
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Damn it. I had managed to ignore it again until you brought it to my attention again..
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: hehehe
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: what i mean is that around that logo, my window goes gray
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: the rest of the window has a back blackground
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Er.. That doesn't sound familiar. Can you put a screenshot up someplace?
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: but i have a large square of greyish tinge which clearly is due to the aardwolf symbol
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: yes. sec plz
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: https://pasteboard.co/2o35RzPUx.jpg
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: and my entire communication window also got that annoying greyish tinge :(
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Well that's weird AF
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: this happened after i tried to install some of bast's plugins
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you disable Bast's plugins, does the problem go away?
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: doesn't seem so. already tried. also did a resetaard, and tried to reset colors
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'm kind of at a loss
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: is there anyway to reset the background?
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: guess i'll just reinstall things
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: maybe it got transparent somehow?
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Well you can close mushclient then delete the graphic file to get rid of it
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: i'm pretty sure it was due to miniwins
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: But I can't see how a plugin would have messed with the logo
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: i think it's trying to show a miniwin or something over my main window
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah. Did you try restarting it? (IT Holy Mantra)
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: yeah i did
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Theranoctu Tech: find the State file for that plugin and delete. make sure the client is closed before deletion.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Theranoctu Tech: delete it* eating and typing it hard.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: i don't know which plugin it was. i installed like 20
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Ouch. When installing plugins, do one or two at a time so you know they work
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal points excitedly at Birdbrain Metria!
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: well, they never gave me problems before. was just moving to a new install of mush hehehe
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: i'll reinstall. ty
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Theranoctu Tech: looking at their screen shot. it seems the aard_layout got borked. 
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: that worked, theranoctu! ty!
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: though now the aardwolf symbol just disappeared lol
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: that's not a bad thing, is it?
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Theranoctu Tech: if you didn't remove the image or take it out of the plugin. it just became darker like it should be.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: nod. must be that
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: just so dark i can't see it lol
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: great. now my scan_highlight plugin doesn't work :) probably needs some other plugin to work
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: having PC issues boyz
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: turn the tower on, fans kick on, weird LEDs kick on, no display. no beeps, no anything. doesn't seem to be booting into Windows without me seeing it because no sounds ever come through the headphones. any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: GPU has a blue LED that's on at the power source, but the fans for the GPU don't kick on. not sure if that's normal or not.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Weird LEDs?
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the dumb blue LEDs that are on the fans and in the case to make it glow blue to show people I'm a true gamer.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: could be CPU dead?  you should get a beep or more upon POST
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no beeps, which is part of why this is weird. I had an issue in the past with the display but I'd still be able to hear it boot to Windows through the speakers
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: do you have onboard video?
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no power to the mouse/keyboard either, it seems
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: this is feeling like a motherboard issue now that I'm thinking/typing it out :p
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Theranoctu Tech: check the ram settings in the bios. sounds a little like what i went through a while back. my ram setting were not configured properly and the comp stopped beeping when it booted up.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I can't get to the BIOS. and it's not sending power through USB to mouse/keyboard either.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: remove all peripherals and reseat ram/video
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you could try a single stick of ram too, but you prolly have a mobo or cpu failure with no post beeps.  there are guides to what you could/should hear upon post depending on what BIOS you have
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: nod, the no beeps and no power to USB peripherals isn't a good sign
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: reseated the RAM and GPU. also pulled the CMOS battery for good measure. no changes.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: on a non-dead motherboard, pulling all the RAM and turning it on should result in some sort of beep, right?
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: there's a power/reset button on the motherboard itself that illuminate when it has power, and they work, but that's the only sign of life I'm getting
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: welp, ASUS motherboard, no memory detected, should be pretty obvious beeps. the fact that it's not talking to me means it might be toast.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah i would bet on motherboard
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: RIP raded's motherboard 2009-2017 we hardly knew ye
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: you had a good run. time to go to a farm upstate somewhere.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what cpu/socket you have?
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: i7-920
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: LGA 1366 socket
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: darn i have a lga 775 collecting dust
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there's 2 diff rooms
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: bad CPU but good motherboard would still beep, right? trying to decide if I should be looking at just a new motherboard or new mobo/CPU combo
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: believe so
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hmm, looking at ASUS post codes i dont see anything for "bad cpu"
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: maybe I should be getting a new CPU too. the only non-server motherboard with that socket on newegg has this in the description: "Today's PC games like Far Cry 2 and Call of Duty: World at War need a computing platform that delivers maximum multi-threaded CPU support and eye-popping graphics support."
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: any reason to avoid AMD CPUs these days?
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: depends if you want the best performance
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: my old CPU has been doing the job fine. if it's a little better than that, I'd be good. I'm more worried about price and reliability than crazy benchmark numbers.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Most stuff isn't CPU bound these days anyway
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I mostly use it for playing Overwatch which is a CPU-heavy game, but I got the fps I wanted with the i7 920
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: unless you want to play on high settings it isn't necessary
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: 150fps at 1920x1080 with low settings is the goal
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: 150 FPS??
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: input lag means a lot in a FPS :p
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What's the refresh rate of your monitor, smartass
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: 75hz, but upgrading to 144hz eventually. fps beyond refresh rate still reduces input lag though.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'd be surprised if it made a real difference
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what's your ping? :p
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it does. if you're running 60fps at 60hz, vsync off, the frame you see on the screen can be 1/60 second old. if you're running 150fps at 60hz, the monitor only refreshes 60 times per second, but the images can only be 1/150 second old.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: 1/60 second isn't really going to make a difference...
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: given that human reaction time is something like 1/5 second
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: so why add to it if you don't have to?
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: also that statement doesn't make sense, even if the computer has an updated image 1/150 second old, if the monitor doesn't refresh until 1/60 secs, you can't see it
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the monitor pulls the most recent frame 60 times per second
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yes, so your image is 1/60 second old
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: vsync off, 60fps on a 60hz monitor the image is a maximum of 1/60 second old.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Actually, processors go slow sometimes and fast sometimes. So the 1/60 thing that will never be detected by the human eye is only when the processor is running at full speed. If the processor gets caught doing something strenuous, and it is normally fast enough to be undetected, the eye WILL SEE THAT IT LOOKS LIKE CRAP. 
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: anyway, none of this is relevant. I don't know what it is about fps/refresh rates that makes people dive in and say NUH YOU CAN'T SEE or NUH UH REACTION TIME
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: If it can render Avater in real time, then maybe it can play Skyrim on Ultra with muh mods.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: if the eye doesn't detect any flicker on the monitor then the refresh rate is more than adequate, no matter what one does the image one sees is going to be old.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: okay, for the pedants, pretend the reason is that I'm OCD and the number 150 is pleasing to me.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm not going to change your mind and there's more than enough information out there that would explain it better than I could anyway
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Hey. It's your money. You wanna get 150 FPS on low, knock yourself out
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: well, what you want may be possible but you are not going to get 150fps out of a standard monitor. So get out your checkbook.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: psh, nobody uses checkbooks
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: As someone who services point of sale equipment.. trust me, they do. God I hate checks.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you could always reject them :p
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I just service the equipment, I don't run the businesses using them.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I once used a Tektronix's monitor that probably had that high a refresh rate, that sucker was sharp it hurt to look at it :)
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: monitor is refresh rate, I'm looking at CPU and fps right now :p
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: you must have a damn good job :)
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: quick fps/refresh rate explanation: at 60hz and 60fps, with vsync off, the frame isn't necessarily displaying what's being generated at the exact same time. so that difference can be up to 1/fps of a second. higher fps, lower delay.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: you can get one of those 8.805MHz cpus :)
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I was getting the 150-ish fps I wanted on an 8 year old CPU, I just want something a tiny bit better than that
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what's your current cpu/gpu?
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and ram
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: so you have lower delay, reminds me of the disk seeking problem, how can you time it so that you can take advantage of the cylcle time? That question hasn't been answered yet.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: you are not going to be able to process the frame fast enough to be done by the time the next frame is available. That's your timer, the frame processing rate.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: unless maybe you are using the bulldozer cpu.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Intel I7 920, Radeon 470 8GB is the current CPU/GPU combo doing what I want
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: well,if all the processing required is adding 1 to a register, an AT might be able to handle it too :)
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: But since I don't know what you are doing to the frame, I'll take your word for it.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: anyone know how to edit/change the S&D parser for campaign area? (e.g. to make kiksaadi show up as "kiksaadi" rather than "cove")
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: you know what? I take it all back, 1/150 sec = approx. 7 ms. You can do a lot in that time.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: cove is the area's keyword.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: ah hmm alright thanks
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: how much ram do you have?
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can play around with http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=20810&game=Overwatch&p_make=Intel&p_deriv=Core+i7-920+Quad+2.67GHz&gc_make=ATI&gc_deriv=Radeon+RX+470+MSI+Gaming+8GB&ram=8&checkSubmit=#systemRequirements
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: got to get my pggyback setup, 8-core laptops are in the horizon :)
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I've got 16GB of DDR3 but it looks like I'll probably need to upgrade that
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: would this power supply: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817371026 work with newer mobos/CPUs? trying to figure out what I need to buy.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: it looks like it would but it's out of stock... 
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: that's the PSU I already have
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: it looks fine to me. Whatever mobo you decide to get just double check what power connector you'll need to be safe
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its all about your power draw.  modern cpu's are efficient unless a beast
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: 750w is more than enough even for a pretty good graphics card too
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel is agreeing with that Endymion person again...
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NotGod Pleiades crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion nods.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion grumbles and growls. You wonder what's wrong...
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Pleiades has offered to buy all of this for me.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that is very generous
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: that's true
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I think I read an article where even a 1080ti system didn't draw more than 550w.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: how much time will you be spending in the basement?
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: all of it
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm looking at this combo right now, or something like it: https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3538759
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I'd get an extra 8gb of ram as well
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: looks nice but i'd want more ram
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: nod, that was my only thought
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion acks at Failurette Noegel!
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but the RAM is upgradeable
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: Aye. Ram is cheap too. I'd buy it now so I can get the extra same model of ram because I'm picky like that
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: real pros download more ram
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel looks at Mr. Dash and pants lustily.
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah you dont want mutt ram
T3/r7/2017-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: wondering too if I should spend a little extra money for the i7 because I upgrade once per decade or so
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i would then. it cant hurt and you're worth it.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you buy the kids i3, you buy yourself i7
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: once per decade?? Get the best you can get man
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: and if you dont have kids, you definitely get the i7
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: you're my favorite Light, Endymion. I won't strangle and advertise your room on gclan for at least 3 months.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's probably cheaper to buy mediocre twice a decade?
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: buying in the sweet spot for power:price isn't "mediocre"
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: a decade is pretty long!
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: you tend to get a few years of future proofing and a couple running things at max
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, the value point, whatever it's called
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: for gaming, at least
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: maybe this combo + another 8GB of RAM: https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3538817
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: btw, if you are building a pc, pcpartpicker is probably the best website ever made for that task
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: savings is negligible, i'd probably choose a motherboard separately
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i mean, it is fantastic
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but it's endorsed by my favorite esports player of the 1990s, fatal1ty
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: made by some brand I've never heard of
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: asrock is asus right
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel rolls on the floor laughing at Bishoujo Raded's antics!
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: also, isn't AMD the best value for power pick these days?
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: they tend to trade off the top spot every few years as complacency costs market share
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yeah, I guess asrock is asus
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: that's true. the AMD Ryzen does seem to be the better price.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I'm just sad it wasn't as beastly as they made it seem like it was going to be
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: Intel do something better than release God awful expensive i9s
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I have a habit of not paying attention to anything new after I buy stuff. I only read up on anything when I'm in the market.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: amd is good if you have radiant heating, will lower bills in the winter
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I have a turbo button for my 8088
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i havent considered amd since about the pentium 4
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: if only they had sticked ryzen into the latest surface pro
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wire drools all over himself -- making a TERRIBLE mess!
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: core duo and beyond, intel only
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: my CPU before the i7 920 was AMD but I don't remember what it was
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I might get a surface pro for my next work computer
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I remember amd being a beast in amd Athlon x2 days when all the becnhmarkers used fx-55s and fx57
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah i think my last amd was an x2
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: same here.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: pcpartspicker has made this too hard again
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I think I have an AMD on one of my storage servers
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: can't remember which one though
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: probably from intel was using amd chips
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NotGod Pleiades peers intently at Exiled To Aphelion.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: at one time they were working together :)
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NotGod Pleiades peers intently at Exiled To Aphelion.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: you like apples, so what do you know
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NotGod Pleiades peers intently at Exiled To Aphelion.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well we know who made the deal with the devil
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: it was to Intel's advantage, AMD seems to be the champ when it comes to building fast cpus.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: they have the 2 fastest cps, 8.8 and 8.6
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: just anniounced a 5GHz clock for their 8-core processor
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but ghz isnt the only factor
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: what do I even look for in a motherboard? this is why I was going to choose a combo :p
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: no, the most important thing is not the cycle time, but ho how many cycles it takes to decode an instruction
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: the cycle time helps, of course :)
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: the 8081 architecture unfortunately doesn't lend itself to minimal number of cycles.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: motherboard is about size and features and socket
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: that's because you've never worked on a mainframe :)
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: if you get a real cheap mobo, you will have incompat problems, and get BSOD often.  (my experience).  so afterwards, i tried to get combo or even better, get a higher end mobo with good chipset with good reviews.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: well, the people who make the bad chipsets also make the good ones :)
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: mainframe :)
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: my first love :)
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: do you run your bot on your mainframe?
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: it's different
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I worked on mainframes for a long time
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: z/OS
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: run them on my mainframe and a few afine cpus :)
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you mean *manframes
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: and Abelinc pulled me off of them
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: and made me learn Basic
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: manframes
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: Intel is making a fortune on an architecture that is 40 years old.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: okay well this is what I came up with: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/raded0/saved/wN3LkL GPU, HDD, case, and PSU are things I already have
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: and the SSD
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: looks good but i'd go with more ssd
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: right, you want SSD, HDs are 20th-century.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I've got the 250GB SSD and then like 1TB of HDDs
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: all the HDs I use are external.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: internally I use SSD
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I kind of hate my case but I don't want to buy a new one either
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: that's probably the best thing out, external HDs, they solve a lot of headaches.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: just waiting on the 1Tb USB sticks :)
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you've got those boss LEDs that light up even when computer fails.  why upgrade?!?
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: worst case i ever had was acrylic with a ton of leds
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: gotta have the LEDs to be a real gamer
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: do modern motherboards use IDE any more?
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: might need a new DVD-R eventually :p
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: uh no
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: have an IDE HDD and DVD burner in my current computer :(
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah its a tough time when you realize your peripherals are dated.  just get over it and upgrade.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: was probably a red flag when the IDE controller started hanging at POST a month ago and had to unplug them.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: where can i plug this in?.... oh i cant.  crap.  buy a new one.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i had bad experiences with ide controllers, so stopped using them, now use SATA dvd rw.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: here you go:  https://www.amazon.com/Generic-IDE-SATA-Adapter/dp/B000RK89M4
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: as for birds, once they get hold of a seed the go on a picnic.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Even Anaristos Tech: mis :)
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: ordered all the goodies. now hopefully none of them get stolen at my door.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Theranoctu Tech: or doa
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bayne Tech: im using finedish's mapper.  is there a listing of what each color on the map means?  some ive figured out, but not all 
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: right-click
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: terrain color
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bayne Tech: that lets me change the color, but im trying to figure out what some default colors mean, like red or light blue
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i knew that one...
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bayne Tech: i know orange rooms are shops, grey is plain road and dark blue is water
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: compare it with the minimap legend
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: grey is road
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: seems that the minimap legend is outdated
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bayne Tech: i was thinking something was off, didnt see some of the map icons in legend
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bayne Tech: oh well, was mainly just curiosity. ty for trying to help
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliphant Tech: Hunt trick in Arisian Realm bugged - cp target was "palace guard" but I was unable to hunt "arisian guard"
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: maybe arisian guards are nohunt flagged
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: or palace guard also has keyword of arisian too
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: there are mobs that are nohunt nowhere and noscan
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliphant Tech: Aha, that makes sense
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliphant Tech: Specifically I typed "hunt guard" and it said "you can't hunt this target". I thought it was my cp mob, so I typed where guard, but arisian guard showed up instead
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: When I am using the search and destroy plugin to find a room with a mob, using "xcp 1" will automatically go the the area with the first mob, then hunt and use where to find a room that holds the mob.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: however, when it takes me to the area, it usually takes me to a random room inside the area, and sometimes that random room is behind a mapper cexit, ao that when it finds the room with the mob, it has to re-run to the area frmo recall.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: xset mark the first room in the area
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: THANKS!!!!
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: The search and destroy plugin thinks that "chasm" is in the kobaloi area, instead of the chasm area. Is there a way I can fix that?
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: yes. rt chasm, type 'xset mark' in the first room
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: glad you asked that Larcenist, had the same problem with Umari, kept running me to Tumari, fixed now.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: I did that. runto chasm goes to chasm. But if the first mob in CP is in chasm, and I type xcp 1, then tries to get to a room in kobaloi.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: AAAAAHHHHH!!! I see what the problem is. The shortest route to chasm is through kobaloi, but I need to have the goal in order to run through it.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: rt chasm runs through underdark by default
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: So the solution is to pass off the Kobaloi goal, and then the S+D will work properly
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuli Tech: You could just put in a level lock on an exit, to force it to run elsewhere
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heliar Tech: hi there is a way to reset the position of the windows in mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: I can move mine around but I have to do it every time i boot
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: just save it after you move them, that should do it
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: oh wait
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heliar Tech: I havea mini window whose top part is out of viewport so I can't move anymore...
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: I think it's resetaard, or aardreset
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heliar Tech: ok resetaardwhorks but not with the Seek and destriy plugin
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heliar Tech: for the record the command is xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: is there a bsp command to force it to recast all spells regardless of enable/disable?
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: how do you completely thwart radars from maps? 
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: how much does it cost to run aardwolf per month?  what with AWS and stuff dripping prices.  just wondering.
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: heh i dont think lasher uses AWS
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I don't think that info is going to be disclosed especially during donations. 
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: what is the major cost item do you think?
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: prolly all the advanced tech required to hold thief down
T3/r7/2017-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Halal Samsung Tech: btw, help hardware is funny :)
T3/r7/2017-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: in mushclient, one of my windows got stuck under the top bar. Any way to reset it without the top being available?
T3/r7/2017-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Theranoctu Tech: there's reset aard but that reset all your windows. umm could find it's stat file and delete it.
T3/r7/2017-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Theranoctu Tech: state*
T3/r7/2017-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aisling Tech: If it's the toolbar, you could go to 'View' and disable it there, see if it'll let you move the window then.
T3/r7/2017-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: bah maybe its not lost maybe its just locked at the top left
T3/r7/2017-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: which gmcp event sends out quest time? on wiki i see qt only in group events. i must be blind or something
T3/r7/2017-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: comm.quest?
T3/r7/2017-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's group gmcp.
T3/r7/2017-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: comm.quest doesn't update as frequently as group's does.
T3/r7/2017-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wouldn't it require you to be in a group?
T3/r7/2017-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes. :\
T3/r7/2017-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I think comm.quest only updates on quest-specific events. Most people want to keep track of their timer, maybe even outside of group, but have no option to do so.
T3/r7/2017-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nothing you can do about it, really, though.
T3/r7/2017-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't even think comm.tick shows q time.
T3/r7/2017-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess you have to put it in the prompt then
T3/r7/2017-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or maybe we can convince Lasher to put it in comm.tick.
T3/r7/2017-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: in reference to my note on tech board, 7418, can anyone help me try to fix my mushclient and get my stuff back to normal
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: UFW is such an improvement on dealing with iptables
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Itty Kitty Purr Tech: In mushclient, I have a gquest mini window showing, with mobs listed, for a gquest that ended quite some time ago. Is there a way to get it back to its 'blank' state?
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: is it S&D?
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Itty Kitty Purr Tech: no, Bast's I think?
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Itty Kitty Purr Tech: Sorry, haven't played actively in a bit so kind of at a loss with some of these plugins.
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pisces Tech: Does restarting the client not clear that up?
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Itty Kitty Purr Tech: Hadn't tried that one, thanks. Will give that a go.
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Itty Kitty Purr Tech: That either did it or pushed the window elsewhere, either way works for me. Thanks again.
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pisces Tech: Gladly!
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you shouldn't have to restart the client every time you complete a gq though
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: Is there a plugin that pipes score output to a separate window?
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I think most of it is in the default mushclient window isnt it?
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: it is
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Aardwolf_Statmon
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: Thank you! I'll give that a shot.
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: are you not using the aardwolf version of mush?
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: I am.
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i thought that stat plugin shows by default
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: It does
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: it does.
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: which particular info from score are you looking for? or just all?
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: This is going to sound really dumb, but hunger and thirst.
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Sex too!
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: I'm returning to the game after like a year away, so I'm relearning _everything_.
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Endian, Psionicists have this spell called "Mind over body". Check it out. (:
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: Well, that makes things easier. :)
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: Thanks again, all.
T3/r7/2017-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Metropolis is nodding her head so wildly you wonder if it will fall off. No, you hope it will.
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: anyone has a guide on how to adapt sharptracker to latest mushclient? I am getting mobarded with trash-characters in status-bar, and also some functionality does not work...
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliphant Tech: how do you delete a mapper cexit?
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: go to the room and type mapper delete cexits
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliphant Tech: Like, just one, not everything
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: or open the database and do it manually
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: that will delete only the ones in the room you are in
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: mapper purge cexits will delete ALL of them
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: if you want to delete just one in a room with multiple the only way I knkow of is to edit the file
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: though you could just lock it to 202 or higher
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you can also right click the room in the mapper
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: oh yeah?
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: apparently you can
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: learn something new everyday
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: What is that message you get when you trigger it to stay online?
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: Your eyes glaze over.    ?
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: Im about to be absent for like 45min
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: i have a router that doesn't seem to work, am trying to do a hard reset on it but it somehow manages to retain the memory of the network name, any idea how to force it to reset?
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: asus n56u
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: What's doesn't seem to work, what is it doing?
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: everything, i literally cannot connect to it with either wireless or ethernet cable
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: can't even get into the web config page
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: not sure if i am helpful, but long time ago i had provider that only updated ip when router was down minimum of 10 minutes
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: it's not even a question of no internet connection, i can't even check its settings
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: are you hitting reset and holding it?
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: yea
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: i did some 30/30/30 thing i read online
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: hold reset 30s, pull plug while holding the button for 30s, plug in and continue to hold for 30 s
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: even downloaded the asus restoration utility which i believe flashes the firmware again
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: only thing i can tell that the reset isn't working is that it intermittently appears as an available wireless connection, and the name is still the same
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: if you change access point name does it save across a reboot? (I'm reaching here)
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: i would have thought a hard reset would wipe it to a default name
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: i can't get to the point to change ap name
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: You know it's going to be something that smacks in face
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: hmm?
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: the solution :)
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: so sofar hard reset, firmaware reflashed, AP can't be renamed?
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: to get to the config page, usually i go to the ip address thing, 192.168.1.1
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: i can't get there, because i can't even establish a connection to the router (wireless or wired)
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: oh! you can't connect to it period?How are you accessing the internet right now?
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: another router
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: so you have your connection to other router doing trhe workload?
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: What's the IP address of your current router?
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: 192.168.0.1
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: i had the other router configured as a bridge
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: it worked fine for years, just came back yesterday and it wasn't working
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: There is a website that gives your physical adress when you give your IP, not sure if that works well.
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: how is my ip relevant?
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: You have any ethernet cords to plug directly into the router?
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: yes, i have another pc that's connected via ethernet
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: but that doesn't work
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: doesn't even detect the connection
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: cycles between identifying and unplugged
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: It's not recognizing ports when there is a cable im?
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Karang wants to be Yowza. FOOL!
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: i've never had an issue with ethernet connections before
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: even if you can't get internet working, at least the ethernet connection would be recognized
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: so i'm wondering if it's hardware failure, because i can't even seem to reset it
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: honestly, I'm leaning to hosed but hey I like troubleshooting
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: well
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: a hard reset should clear wireless name correct?
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Yep
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: so unless i'm doing the hard reset wrongly (it does seem to be resetting, since the lights go off and back on), there's no reason the name should survive
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: plug your wonkey router and see if it pulls down a IP on the Wan side of it
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: ?
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: plugin current wonky router to one of the ports on good router
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: that's how it's set up already
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I hate soho routers
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: hrm you can't flash manually can you?
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infiniwoo Tech: I want to be able to put a SEMICOLON in an alias command and am using mudlet. Do I need to use another character for my ordinary command stack punctuation so that SEMICOLON works ok in aliases? Or is there a better way?
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliphant Tech: type two semicolons in a row(;;)
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: i tried some firmware restoration flash thing which tells me it flashed successfully, but again, wireless name remained
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: tech Yea I'm running out of ideas
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infiniwoo Tech: "alias qq recallSEMICOLONSEMICOLONrun 8s" made me try to run 8s after defining qq to recall. So, no.
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Alipant, go on
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliphant Tech: Infiniwoo, it works for me - it might be your client causing the issue
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliphant Tech: Are you using mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infiniwoo Tech: No. I am using mudlet.
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infiniwoo Tech: I can use BACKQUOTE for the command stacking punctuation and ; for aliases. I do that sometimes on other muds. I haven't tested whether ; will stack commands on a normal line here. I was just looking for a better way if there was one.
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliphant Tech: Aha, sorry, can't help you there
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliphant Tech: I will say that mushclient is vastly superior than mudlet - it has a mapper, supports plugins like auto spellup and S&D, shows you your stats in a separate screen and is generally awesome
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: Anyone got a cube shape desktop Subwoofer?
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: Infront is my Driver, and the side is the subwoofer hole, Facing which side at my face face will yeild more bass?
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: Prolly gotta reddit this
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: is there loaded software in wondows 7 to rip an audio cd to mp3 tracks?
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: This seems such a noob job
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: Windows media player did it
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: 320 kbps ftw
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: Time to rip some epic Trance original from my mates car ausio drive :P
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infiniwoo Tech: heh. if tech channel is such a noob job, offer me an alternative using mudlet client to having to either a) turn off ';' interpretation (as you can see, I have it turned off and am using BACKQUOTE as my stacking operator) so that I can use it in aliases or b) using ';' all of the time EXCEPT when defining an aliases, turning it off for that moment and then turning it back on after the alias is defined.
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: Infinwoo - Lol no, i mean its such a dumb minded thing to rip an audio cd, i just did it so long ago, i cant remember how to do it
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: tech channel is not a noob job, lmao.
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: You get noscan, nohunt, nowhere etc
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: Bad GamerX.
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Ok so I just loaded up mushclient and it said that all of my plugins were not loaded and all of my gui's are gone.
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Do I just restart mush?
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Toss out S&D! It is corrupted!
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: I got it fixed :P Thanks
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: Gotta have aard server linked to skype asasp
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: There was 1 match which I could not find a path to within 300 rooms:
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: worst SnD message ever
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: Lile really, im going to cral mannauly to that room via online maps right about now
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: Is there a way to make the Aard mapper plugin display something more like the Gaardian maps, with different line lengths between rooms?
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: How come all my text is so close together. It wasnt like that before all my plugins crapped out on me
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Fixed it. For some reason there was a plugin enabled called omite_blank_lines
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'm having a hard time believing mushclient just did all that to you without you doing something to give it a tiny bit of help
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: anyone has an updated version of sharptracker
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Someone make a magic 8 ball plugin
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Outlook not too good.
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: (And Exchange is no picnic either)
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: So when I do *8ball Is turie smart it would send an answer back to the chanell
T3/r7/2017-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: channel*
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: are the ansi colours standard ansi colours?
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliphant Tech: Is there a way to make it so your mapper runtos automatically opens doors that are closed?
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: you can insert cexits for closed doors, open north, north etc.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: the mapper doesn't check if a door is closed. you can 'force' it to always open a specific door, regardless of its current state
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliphant Tech: Aha
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: the speedwalk is created when starting the run, for the entire journey, so it has to send all the commands at the begining
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Help
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: My computer is talking to me
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Specify the client
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: It wont stop reading everything on the screen. Im on mush
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and what computer is saying
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Are you a Klingon, and have you just boarded the Enterprise after disabling it?
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Did you start up narrator by mistake with the hotkey? Isn't it windows+n?
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Its only reading mush stuff.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Halp
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: How do I turn this off.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Might help if we knew how you turned it on
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: I dont know. It just started
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ctrl-alt-del? and check task manager
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: just tell abelinc to shut up
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: tht turns off the channel
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Nope. Its not narrator because its only reading mud stuff.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: It might be a plugin? Maybe? It was talking about Nick Gammon at first.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: is there a video in another window running?
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Do you for some reason have the TTS plugin installed?
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Maybe? How would I know
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: So you're saying that mushclient just started reading text aloud out of nowhere, suddenly and without you doing anything at all
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: As soon as I started it up.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you check your plugin list, do you see anything in there that mentions TTS or voice or visual
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Go to your plugins in mush and just do a check through, see if there's anything weird
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Theres a plugin in my plugin list called SAPI_text_to_speech that I turned off but its still talking.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: That didn't get there on its own.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: I have no idea how it got there.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: But why is it still talking.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Fire up Teamviewer, and I'm willing to take a look via remote
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Ill download it XD
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Hang on, there's a version yo don't have to install
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: https://download.teamviewer.com/download/TeamViewerQS.exe
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: K the page is loading now.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: It pulled up a program that said give your partner this info.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: If I wanted to auto replay tells if i have more than 5 tells how would i do that? I know to copy the phrase but do I put <5?
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: tell -h
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: if you only want the last 5 do tell -h 5, -h buy itself will show you the last 50, so you can do any between tell -h 1 and tell -h 50, and same for most other channels
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: grrach -h by itesel,... not buy
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Hhhhh Someone make a plugin to auto practice spells and skills when I type practice so I dont have to manually practice them all...
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: there is one
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Oooo GIMME
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Somebody gimme the plugin. Noegel doesn't actually have it.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: ugh name dropper! 
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Pls.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: you could have practiced all your skills by now :p
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Metropolis groans at the sight of Ard Tiarna Grimvald.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: you know you can do prac spell full so only have to type one time for each
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: that's a good one except when you have 50 spells to Prac 
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Ye
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: do you have enough pracs to practice 50 spells at once?
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Ye
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: I am trying out the AardMUD MUSHclient whatchamacallit. I have been using mudlet, and the big thing I loved about it is that it saved your command history (like MUSHclient) and also let you use the up/down to scroll through partially completed command. Like, if I had a long command string of "alias1 'target creature one';alias2;alias3;etcalias" typed in at some point in my history, I could type "al" as my input, and go back through all of my commands starting with "al" by repeatedly pressing the uparrow. Is there a way to do that from the input box in MUSHclient? (I have used Mc before and never saw an option like that. Still, I figure that if it exists, this is the place to ask.)
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: wow
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: hi dexx
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I *think* You can do it in Mushclient prefs
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: alt-0, then keyboard preferences button on the right.  Set arrow key
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: "Arrow Key Recalls Partial Command"?
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: Excellent. I am testing now, but the "Arrow key matches partial command" looks promising!
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah thats neat, thanks metria
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: another one, this one a quickie I hope. is there a dandy way to make it so that ESC clears the command line? (I could search, but hoping you'll save me that...)
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: same page :p
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: "escape deletes typing" on the keyboard prefs page
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Now THAT was lazy :D
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: GMCP gives an easy way to get your primary class, but I don't see any simple way to get secondary classes.  Do I need to do something kludgy like trigger on the the output of whois?  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: \*blush Okay. Perfect. THis looks pretty nifty. Better than I have ever seen Mc work before.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hate to be that guy, but why do you need to check your remort classes?
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: gmcp sends subclass
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no he means remorts not subclass
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It sends the number of remorts, but not which ones.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I have an inventory plug-in that creates equipment sets and I want to automagically determine if I have dual-wield available
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: only time you need to review that is when remorting heh
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well instead of whois you could do a kludgy "show dual"
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NotGod Pleiades goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, I have a table generated from "show dual".  Now I just need to determine if a particular character at a particular level has access to that skill (or aard gloves.)
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: that sounds complicated
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: why don't you just pull your learned %?
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: show dual shows if you have it and what level
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You could trigger off of finger output, it's short
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'll probably just trigger off of one of the commands that lists secondary classes.  It's not particularly hard, I was just hoping that there was an easy way to get that info via GMCP or some other way.  Thanks everyone!
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah we need more gmcp data!
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i want affs in gmcp
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: do ganks show up in gmcp?
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: I hate to be that guy but: 1) help files were in the same unzipped directories but help isn't working; 2) as you could see, I tried to input ASTERISKblush ("You cannot find Okay. Per..."), as did BACKSLASHASTERISKblush (just sent "\*")--how can I use socials in channels?; 3)you folks have been really helpful.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it does!  gank = {leader = "Endymion", gankers = "7", target = "Pleiades"}
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: aha
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: re 2: was that "*blush" a fail bc the next word after blush wasn't a player name?
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: one question per post please
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: heh. ok.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: and why is abelinc not responding
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aisling Tech: You can use http://wiki.aardwolf.com/index.php/Help/Help to access helpfiles outside of the game.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion blushes.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: why are you backslashing asterisk?
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: see help channels to see how to use socials on channels
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion blushes as he sees a per here.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh sorry i got all confused too many words
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if you cannot see a player you cannot social them
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: there's only one playa and that's icecool
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: so, you did a *blush (test)
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion blushes as he sees Guobunjhila here.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NotGod Pleiades blushes.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes, *blush guob
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aisling Tech: You have to use 'tech *blush'.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: "ASTERISKblush ok. this is a test" responded "You cannot find ok. this is a test."
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: well, why are you trying to blush at "ok. this is a test"
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah, I'm really confused as to what it is you're trying to do
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aisling Tech: Without a string following it.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I think "ok. this is a test" is offline though.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: send 2 messages
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: ya. That ok. is a real slacker.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Guobunjhila blushes.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: this is a *blush
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you cannot social "nothing"
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: has to be player or mob you can see or it wont work
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: Well... It looked like you did the blush social a couple of times above...?
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hustler Redryn tickles nothing.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: sure you can social nothing
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion tickles Elmo.
T3/r7/2017-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hustler Redryn tosses The black nothing up in the air, it loves it!
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: eclectic?
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: with the wonderful map stuff in the AardMUD Mc, I don't really need the map displayed between moves in my output display. Is there a way to suppress that without affecting the Roomname/Map daughter window?
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: try map off  not sure.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: maybe maprun
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: thanks. Map off worked.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that turns off the map!  there must be another option to not show in output window
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: hmm. it also screwed up my daughter window. I'm hoping that a simple relog will fix that. Gonna do that really fast.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no it turned off map display when moving, which doesnt update miniwindow then
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: better lock that window
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: yeah. relogging fixed that.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: lock?
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NotGod Pleiades crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so you're telling me that "map off" takes map off of output window but still updates miniwindow (after logging off/on)
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: no... it doesn't update it so long as "map off" is in effect (so far as I know. I did a "map on" before relogging, but "map on" + relog fixed daughter window.)
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there's a "Also show map in Main Output" option for the ascii map minwindow
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: unchecking that should quash main window output
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: Amazing. +10 points for Endymion
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i will be 2 south of recall for payment
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: heh. You can have both of my coins, if you like.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: anyone has an update version of sharptracker that works with latest mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: no... it doesn't update it so long as "map off" is in effect (so far as I know. I did a "map on" before relogging, but "map on" + relog fixed daughter window.)buy 2
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion waves adieu as Guobunjhila sails off on the U.S.S. Failboat.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: ignore. I amd haveing technical difficulties
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: my blasted command line is not retaining commands after pressing return
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: alt-0, check "Auto repeat commands"
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: quoted loosely
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I am having technical difficulties as well
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: i had that before, it's still checked
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: and icecool went to bed :(
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it should be warm by now, head in there
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: hmm. disconnect/reconnect seems to have worked on the issue of not clearing the line after pressing ENTER. Here's hoping
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: not clearing?  if you check the repeat option it doesnt clear it.  otherwise it does
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: all this disco is making me dizzy
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: I *want* it to retain the command. I *had* it set to repeat. It *was* clearing. A disconnect and reconnect appears to have fixed that without further intervention.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so you're disconnecting/reconnecting to the mud and it is changing mushclient options.  weird
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: How about me? I just ate enough pills to make a horse think it's on roller skates in an ice rink. Plus, I'm using a new(ish) client that's giving me grief. 
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: someone earlier said where to find help for the Mc. Could someone please give me that URL again?
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: https://www.google.com/#q=mushclient+help
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: Under Mc, I want to create an alias "#wh" that does "where __;hunt __" using 1-6 arguments as "__". I tried "#wh *" and "where %0;hunt %0" thinking that "#wh test" would give me "where test;hunt test" like everywhere else, but it gave me "where #wh test;hunt #wh test". I tried "#wh * * * * * *" with "where %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6;hunt %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6", but got "Unknown command. Please check the helpfiles." Any clues you can provide?
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you want %1
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: and only (*) would be %1 or (*) (*) would be %1 %1
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: err %1 and %2
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: %1 refers to first variable
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: also you need to send to execute if you're putting ; in the alias
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: send to world will send without parsing, send to execute will act as though you sent to command line
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: Hmm. What if I put in a two-word target? (I actually put where and hunt on two separate line of the Send section, not separated by ";")
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: then where '%1' covers that
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: you can also toggle echocommand to see what your client is sending to aard
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it will only break your variables up if you have string * morestring * yetmorestring, then you have %1 and %2
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: you might want to use regex if you want to have more fancy capture algorithms
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: otherwise #wh * will capture anything including 10 word targets as %1
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: hmm. I put in suggested changes (ask for details) and toggled echocommand. I get nada back.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: before at least, I got errors of the wrong text back
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: what's your alias and script?
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: Alias is "#wh *". no script. only Send text of "where %1\nhunt %1"
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: just put the commands on new lines, dont use \n
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: sorry. that's what I meant. they're on separate lines
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you dont have regex checked right
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: so #wh test will send where test, hunt test
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: End: only thing checked is "Enabled". Red: that was what I expected (and got before), but now it is sending nada
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: what is the send to?
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: +10 for Red. I somehow sent it to "Command" instead of "World". It works now (for a single word, at least)
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: woks for two words, too... minor gritch:
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: in order to secure future points, i will bet on user error going forward
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: working well for me
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: it comes out fine for the "where," but for the "hunt," it comes out at the next prompt and then does another newline/prompt
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: it comes out fine for the "where," but for the "hunt," it comes out at the next prompt and then does another newline/prompt
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: aard will always send another prompt after you do a command
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: it is satisfactory as is, but would be better if the output of the "hunt" came aligned to left margin instead of art the next prompt
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: does your prompt end in %c ?
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: no.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it should
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: %c is new line and will be necessary for triggers not to fail due to prompt and also other reasons such as that
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: no.tech default rawcolor prompt which i use is [%h/%Hhp %m/%Mmn %v/%Vmv %qqt %Xtnl] > 
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: ok. so I should add " %c" before the ">"?
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: 
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: after
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Regular Game Prompt    : >>>> HP: %p %h/%H  MN: %P %m/%M %O%d%c
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: hmm. how do you list your prompt? I thought it was "p data"?
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it is
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: hmm. I just recreated, haven't changed the prompt, did p data and reported it. We don't match.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh you can modify it to suit your needs
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: help prompt
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the important part is %c at the end
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: ya. but I don't fix what ain't broke, and didn't wanna take time to learn what prompt format I really needed.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: ok.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: great. that fixed the left margin problem. I also added %K in there for good measure
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: After 3 hours or so of fiddlin', I'm almost ready to play!
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: thanks for your patience and help, guys.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: switching clients is always a nuisance. Mc is surprisingly *much* better than my initial survey of it some weeks back had led me to believe.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: heh. I only looked into it to provide tech support for a wave of new players on another MUD who all used it. I fixed their problems and said, "It is good. MUSHclient is now history." Little did I know...
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so many people giving bad information in tech channel history, lol
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: what bad information?
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well for one thing...
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Guobunjhila Tech: with the wonderful map stuff in the AardMUD Mc, I don't really need the map displayed between moves in my output display. Is there a way to suppress that without affecting the Roomname/Map daughter window?
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Negader Tech: try map off  not sure.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Metria Tech: maybe maprun
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Guobunjhila Tech: thanks. Map off worked.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which makes me wonder about many things
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because I'm pretty sure that "Also Show Map in Main Output" is not on by default
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so I'm not sure that Guobunjhila is actually using the aardwolf mushclient package at all
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: bigmap
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Japeo Tech: anyone know what to feed tigers in thanelds conflict
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ecaz Tech: how do you increase the font size in muchclient
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Alt+0, it's in there
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ecaz Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ecaz Tech: testing
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ecaz Tech: that doesn't seem to affect the communication log window or the lower window
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: for Communication Log, right click in the window and Change Font
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Right-click on them and change font.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: right click in the comms log, top option is font related
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ecaz Tech: ah, you're wonderful people!
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: only me not Arci
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Doesn't work for main window, though. That's the Alt+0 option.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: the word is still out on raded's greatness
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne gives Bishoujo Raded the bird.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Raded's great. I mean, grate. Grated. Delicious. With Chianti and fava beans.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ecaz Tech: lol... so this doesn't work for the non-communication window (the main window)
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Alt+5 for main window
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ecaz Tech: perfect
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ecaz Tech: thank you both for your help and the free cheese
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: sigh, it had to be raded that got it correct to make himself look good.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: dont gotta do anything when you loko this good already
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded crosses his arms and nods sagely to himself.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You tell Raded 'Look, just tell him Alt+5. Hate to see you not "great"'
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: fake news
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: WRONG!
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: next a twitter war between raded and arci
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't use Twitter.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: how do you follow the dear leader?
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ha.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: -g
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Anybody got a plugin that auto donates half of the money I pick up from mobs?
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: To my clan.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i have one that donates to my clan
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you can just send me 1/2 at the end of each day
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: dont give endy money he'll just spend it on drugs
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Or women.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Trigger off trivia point tokens in daily blessings to send them to me, and I'll make you one to donate to your clan. *blink*
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Endy doesn't like women
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over Arcidayne's head.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Metropolis grumbles and growls. You wonder what's wrong...
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: In Mushclient/Lua, if you have a multiline variable, is there an easy way to read it line by line?  Easiest way I can think is to write to a file and read it with io.line, but that seems silly :)
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Split the variable by \n, and read each one? for line in string.gmatch(str, "(*)%c") do blah blah end?
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Use string.gmatch() to find the carriage return then string.sub() to split it
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Something like that?
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ahhh yes will try that!
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: t = utils.split (page, "\n") worked!
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Forgot about that function.
T3/r7/2017-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Well, it's pretty low tech nowadays...
T3/r7/2017-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson snorts.
T3/r7/2017-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkheadwolf Tech: with what do i replays the 
T3/r7/2017-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkheadwolf Tech: with what do i replays the 2 point coma on android for a alias
T3/r7/2017-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: ;;
T3/r7/2017-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you're referring to the semi-colon (;), then you'll want to double it up in aliases, so you'd type alias blah laugh;;cry
T3/r7/2017-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, I take that back, since you said Android.
T3/r7/2017-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm not sure what Android's escape character is, hmm.
T3/r7/2017-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkheadwolf Tech: jeah after the semi colon it cuts off
T3/r7/2017-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sorry, I don't have an answer for that. :\
T3/r7/2017-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkheadwolf Tech: its ok :)
T3/r7/2017-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay, use the ~ (tilde) character.
T3/r7/2017-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So you'd want to do ~;
T3/r7/2017-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkheadwolf Tech: thanks alot
T3/r7/2017-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: is it possible to get list of all skills with Sn? like allspells gives - instead of skill sn. at the same time showskill shadow form gives sn 133
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You could use slist...
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: tnx !
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: doesn't allspells give skills too?
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: anyone mudding on linux?
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gorsk points excitedly at Jedhi!
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: Im going to buy a wireless mouse keyboard combo for my desktop. My desktop will be about 60 centimetre higher then my mouse and keybaord, will it still pick up the signal even if its not horizontal to the pc tower?
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: what are centimeters?
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: cool thanks, Plei its the alternative to inches
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: wtf wow, i was busy typing out tequila and before i finished it auto finished it, im using win 7 and this never happnd
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You don't have a text-expander program installed, like PhraseExpress?
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: nope nothing
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What program were you typing it into?
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: i think i pressed shift with another button accidendlty, but it was most definitily two buttons
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: here in mush
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Shift+Tab, most likely.
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or something like that, then.
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: nice awesome
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can actually do tab completions using a word list, too.
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's pretty nice, able to just tab to complete a word.
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GamerX goes, "OK".
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh yeah, that's another thing - if you hit tab, it'll match the most recently word that matches your partial.
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But that's from MUD output.
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So if you quaffed a tequila potion recently, then typed teq<tab>, it'll fill it back in again.
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: Yup then it was just tab and not two buttons combo like i said
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I love it for practicing spells like globe of invulnerability.
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: type invu<tab> and it gives me invulnerability. :P
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Because let's be real, who wants to type out that long word? :P
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GamerX smiles happily.
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I just tabbed you, Arcidayne
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I just tapped you, Pleiades, but you probably didn't feel anything.
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I thought it was Icecool
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: maybe ask on tech?
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i have asked couple of times
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: you know nodejs/git?
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I dont, no
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: on Windows 7, is there a way to set a file association for all users?
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: preferably a 3rd grade level way
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infiniwoo Tech: heyas. I am back, and with bigger troubles than ever! I created "worlds" based off of the standard AardMUSH configuration and dutifully saved them at the end of each session when I quit out. Now, I can't find them! Well, Cortana can't find them. Cortana's an idiot, but this much at least should be possible. Can you suggest something?
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: By default worlds are in your mushclient\worlds folder
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NotGod Pleiades peers intently at Birdbrain Metria.
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Birdbrain Metria looks disinteredtedly at NotGod Pleiades and says, 'Whatever.'
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Hm, not the social I wanted. What's up?
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: merely observing your performance on the tech channel
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infiniwoo Tech: Well, I just asked cortana again to find it and it opened multiple copies of MUSclient. It also threw about 10 exceptions that I had to click okk in order to look. Hang on, though... Might've found it
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Stop dicking about with Cortana?
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infiniwoo Tech: Ya, ya. I would but I don't know windows frigging 10. I'm ignorant about everything since about Windows 3, which I could hook via OS.
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I've never used Cortana
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: and I replaced Siri with Abelinc
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: still getting used to saying "Hey Abelinc", to my phone
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: 100 mill for 3 points
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infiniwoo Tech: Well, it's possible that I know something, but in order to find out, I have to jump over a cliff that might cause me to open multiple instances of MUSHclient and throw 10+ exceptions per... Wish me something other than the worst. BBAF
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infiniwoo Tech: WoooOOOooo! That worked!
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: that's what she said!
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infiniwoo Tech: Yeah, but did you really have to dip her in flour to find the wet spot?
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Hey, it's your mom's kink - not mine.
T3/r7/2017-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infiniwoo Tech: Heh. My mom. Well, if you are into crevasses where most people have faces, I suppose a cancer-pity is better than nothing.
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infiniwoo Tech: thanks again for your help. even if you just listen, sometimes that's enough.
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliphant Tech: Help! My dialogue windows have snapped back to very small size and refuse to change! And the font for my command line has changed as well
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliphant Tech: I can't seem to be able to make a cexit in the labyrinth from 31405 to 31407 with the custom comomand (n). I guess it only accepts real cusom commands?
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: How many weeks can you play aardwolf on a wireless keyboard before it gets batterie empty
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Weeks? I've been playing mine for months on end on the same batteries.
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: depends on the keyboard, but I've had a keyboard that lasted for a year
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: nice! thanks all
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: nice! thanks all
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: nice! thanks all
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: damn oops
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: C= Amigan D
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: aardwolf's web pages on the other domains should point to the main pages on aardwolf.com not 404 out due to lack of proper pointers or dns redirects
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chydax Tech: Anybody know how to get rid of the object id's when I type inventory?
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ctrl Shift P, then remove aard serials xml I think is what its called...
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: is it enabled by default?
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chydax Tech: inventory serials worked
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What an odd thing to enable for all :)
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that's so Fiendish!
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chydax Tech: Now I just need to get rid of the {invmon} tag and {affoff} tag. I have tags turned off.
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: nu uh
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: type "tags"
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Type 'invmon'
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if he had tags off then spellup wouldnt show affoff
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: invmon has nothing to do with spellup
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chydax Tech: I think I'm good now. Thanks guys
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: is there a tick timer function or plugin?
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: I think so yes on bast plugins
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: finger bast for web address
T3/r7/2017-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: hmm, don't see a tick timer
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what are you looking to do on tick?
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: maybe its the mushclient I dont know but I have one
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: i just want to know how long until next tick
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: are you using mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the aardwolf version of it shows ticke timer bottom left in status
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yeah i had that at one point a long time ago but now it's gone
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its called Aardwolf_Tick_Timer.xml - check your plugins folder
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: hm it wasn't in my new install but i had it in my old install folder.  thanks
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PepperWish Tech: is this in lua? object oriented?
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: I don't get INFO: lines about double ending anymore, can anyone think of a reason why?
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: btw running old mushclient r1825
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: info channel is open
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: k tried something with comm chat echo hope it will work
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Im trying to use S&D but whenever I click my cp mob, it enters the command x_ht a HUGE hellhound and then the mud responds with That is not a command. Type 'Commands' for a complete list.
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Any help?
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: What kind of help?
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Nevermind. Apparently S&D wasnt installed for some reason.
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Does mapper have some way you can run to coords?
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but you can do a little math yourself and use Run
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: X_X
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: and hope you don't run into a bad area doing so
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: I really never want to have to rewrite all my aliases etc. Please can someone explain, in very simple terms, how I can do a weekly backup so that this situation does not happen again?
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: crontab if on linux ... 
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: sadly not on Linux, windows 10
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: -j karl
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: What happened?
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: no clue then... but sure windows has some backup tools available
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: my hard disk blew up completely last Sunday, only just got computer back, new SSD disk, and now windows 10 instead of 8 (which I hated)
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Are you using mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: no worries...i hate them both :D
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: I was, just reloaded it but it meant all my Mush side aliases were gone. So have rewritten them all but want to stop this happening again.
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: My mushclient is on dropbox. I never worry about having to rewrite anything
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mush aliases are saved in the world file.  Should be called Aardwolf.mcl
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: there was nothing salvageable on the old disk
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: going to have a look at that, thanks. Do I have to back up to a disk or a memory stick?
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Usually disk. You haven't used dropbox before?
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: put it wherever you want, its just an xml/txt file
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: when i was using mush, i kept aliases in a plugin. much easier to backup
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: What are you using now Jed?
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: no, I am actually a total illiterate with computers, makes my family roar to see me loading a plug in but they won't help me in case it goes wrong
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Google it bud
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: jedmud :D i was about to release it but i think i'll scrap it and start from scratch
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Woot
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: http://i.imgur.com/xBbL6wB.png
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Awesomesauce
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: but it's BS. built it on nodejs and i had no clue what i was doing. next one will be more sophisticated and releasable
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i am using nodejs. android support there is still experimental at best
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: Can you even tv channels via USB tv card or can you only do that with a pci tv card?
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: record
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: i wonder if the usb is fast enough to record that live tv'
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sheesh, newest aardmush doesn't have tick_timer plugin and has inv serials plugin installed by default
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: anyone know why S&D sometimes lists two lines for a campaign target?
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Probably not the same mob
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: no, it's definitely the same mob
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Check 'cp info', see if it's listed twice there
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Is it a room-name cp?
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darax Tech: some mobs have the same name, and you can have both on your cp
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: if you dont already, you might try using the cp web page to help wiht a cp, campaigns.gaardian.com
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: i think what it is, actually, is that the area has a room that is the same as the area name, so S&D gets confused on whether it's a room CP or an area CP target
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo nods.
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: if a cp only gives you room names, the cp web page will give you area names and links to maps
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: It's a mob so nice, they named it twice.   Oh wait, no, that's New York.
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Of course it could be Baden-Baden as well.
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: i sometimes get double names too, sometimes it is because there are 2 mobs, but sometimes its just one mob listed twice. soon as you kill 1, all the names for that mob disapear, gremlins
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: It's like a double bonus.  You look and go "Oh Christ, 15 mobs for this cp."  Then you kill one mob and Boom your down to 12!
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mique falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Out of curiosity, how wide (# of characters) do you folks typically have your main window?  I'm working on a plug-in that needs to display formatted output and I'm curious if most people would be fine with lines that are up to 100 chars long.
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: 100 characters minimum
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'm at about 110
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I think around 120ish.
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: oh yeah what's the command to toggle that?
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The ruler only goes to 100, so I have to guess 
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: I wouldnt dont have room enough to list that many in one l ine
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Awesome.  I'm guessing the people on 80-character telnet aren't on the tech channel :P
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: People on 80 character telnet won't be able to use a plugin anyway
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'll probably go with 100-char max output for table displays and tweak it if it's an issue
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ok now spill what you are making :p
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I use 80 character lines for almost everything just because it is what I am used to.
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: is there a aard mushclient default? I would use that one for max compatibility
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I made an inventory manager that auto-identifies everything you pick up.  All of the stats are sent to the client so I can run lots of analysis on the inventory.
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Identify?  You know about invmon and invdetails right :)
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: erm heh
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: For example, I can automatically generate optimal equipment sets based on priorities you specify
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yep, it's all based on invmon and invdata
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A large blue sweatdrop appears on [Outlaw] Mendaloth's forehead.
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: today I even got it working where you can point it at an auction item and it will tell you at what levels you'd use that item and what stat differences you would have at each level if the item is available to your equipment sets :)
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: But be careful.  Sometimes it lists a mob in two areas, cuz there are mobs of the same name in those areas.  Ok, so you've got "Snotgurgle" in Sennarre, but before that is "Snotgurgle" in Adaldar.  So since it's first in line, you zip off to Adaldar, and the agro mob there slices your ass off before you know what's happened.
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: cool i use something like that too, it compares the item stats to databased items of same slot
T3/r7/2017-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Nice :)
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thero Tech: anyone have any useful triggers or commands to assign to buttons 
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: whatever you keep typing over and over is generally a good candidate
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: what client? missed earlier reply if you made one
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: he's using blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thero Tech: blowtorch. im to new to know what ill be using a lot, besides movements
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: some sort of attack skill/spell, i would hope
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: well, the buttons in blowtorch are for commands more than for triggers...
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thero Tech: i have an option for both. i figured i would put ballistic attack on a button, but i havent learned a lot on targeting yet besides the basic cmd
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thero Tech: ill finiah the tutorials and come back with some more specific questions
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: I have this aliased to "qq" in the mud, but making it into a button would make sense: recall;run 8s;q complete;q request;q time (remember, in blowtorch, you need to put ";;" in wherever you want to see ";")
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guobunjhila Tech: btw: there is an AardMud config for AardMud/Blowtorch that is available in the play store. I haven't used it much, so that's not a recommendation, just a fact.
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: Can some one help me please with S&D? I tried "resetaard", reinstalling GUI plugin, and I still cant click on S&D window to drag it down, its stuck far to the top of mush...
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: think it is xset reset gui but not sure, is in ww help
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: You saved me, thanks dude.
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: welcome
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliphant Tech: huh, I wonder why s&d's GUI can't be change size
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I think it can, there's a triangle in the lower right corner
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: Is there a way to make an automatic door opener for S&D usage? I dont mean making mapper cexits everytime at the doors
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliphant Tech: From what I understand, the speedwalk is generated before you start moving, so no
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: Sigh OK.
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: has anyone ever wanted to have email notifications for events on here?
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: twitter
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ah, I don't use twitter so I don't know anything about that lol
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: i t is neat since when you have a phone, you will get a sound alert upon new twitter feed allocated to aard 
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: nice
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I guess my idea falls short then, lol. No worries, was just thinking about a new side project to do
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: 8smil
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GamerX Tech: damn shift button lol
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tol grins evilly.
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone on IPT, if so, can you send me a tell?
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: what is ipt
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: dont worry about it.
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I am worried
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Hey...Anyone here to help with a plugin that comes automatically with the Aardmush download?
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: depends on which plugin and what help you need
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: What plugin?
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I accidently deleted one of my map plugins but I don't know what it is called or how to get it back...I have seen the individual plugins but I don't remember where
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Bigmap or ASCII mapper?
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ummm...not the one with boxes
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I am sorry...I suck
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Lol np. ONe sec.
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Your going to want to download ASCII mapper
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Thank You! 
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Np
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: It is on the website right?
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: found it :)
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Metropolis nods.
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok...didn't find it :(
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: fiendish is probably your best bet for really deep issues, but l
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Does anyone know where I can download just that plugin?
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Do you have discord?
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Actually, ill just upload it to dropbox. One sec
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: No...I think my kid does but he just left
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metropolis Tech: Its fine. One sec.
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PepperWish Tech: does anyone know with muschclient if you can filter channels out of one window?
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: are you talking about echo?
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PepperWish Tech: i want all chat in the comm log
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PepperWish Tech: essentially
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: right clic on the comm window and it gives you all the echo options
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PepperWish Tech: tyvm amya :)
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: No problem
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PepperWish Tech: you da bess
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ziv Tech: Any good exp/min, estimated time to level plugin?
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: is there a way to use a variable set in mushclient from the command line?
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: Veritheia I don't think there is any way to do so directly, but you can do so with aliases
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: ahh alright.  fortunately i managed to work around it :) thanks
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: like I have an alias that replaces certain item names with their vnums when I use them in any command
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so I don't accidently wear some random piece of junk amulet I picked up when I try to wear my amulet of aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: or things like that
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: l
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel comforts Emm.
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: how do I find my group window in mushclient
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: move your windows about, probably buried behind some other window.
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infiniwoo Tech: at the risk of messing up your windows (which sound as though they miught be messed up already) you can use the "tile" or "cascade" opetions under the "Window" menu
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Can always "resetaard"
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: I want to place my windows where I want them, and have them STAY put :) i have to re do it every time I boot my comp
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: aard layout lock
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: or aard layout unlock
T3/r7/2017-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I concur
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infiniwoo Tech: I heard someone mention something about an inventory plugin the other day. I assumed that the context was MUSHclient. Is there one? If so, where to look for info?
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: bast has an inventory plugin
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domine Tech: hi guys someone could help me with blowtorch (android) client please?
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: hello!
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: hello!
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: ah there is someone ha ha. that's a good begining :d
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I'm all you'll ever need
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: i would need some  help i think it won't be long :d
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: that's what she said
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Styria is getting ready to siteban! The agony, the pain!
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Understand Anaristos peers intently at NotGod Pleiades.
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: lol, it already takes you longer to ask if there is someone to help than it would take to ask for help
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Styria grins evilly at Anaristos' pet Trivia Point Token.
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: i wanted to know if there was a plugin or something to read ogg sound on mushclient
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: it appear that my version do not support them
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Understand Anaristos Tech: you know that there is a customized mushclient specifically for aard, don't you?
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: ah, no did'nt know it. i actually use a portable version of mushclient
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Understand Anaristos Tech: you can download the aard mushclient here: https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: is it usable for VI players?
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i don't think that plays anything other than midi/rmi/wav either
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Understand Anaristos Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: thanks, going to check it, anaristo
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: hi, i have a litle problem. i don't know what i typed but now i see  automaticaly coordinates :s
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: coord   type it again to toggle it off
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: oh. it's not a toggle :(
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: doesn't work, coord
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: did i forget something?
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Styria raises her hand in a fluid motion and pretends she's shooting a gun.
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: just curious if anyone knows.. when i open mushclient i get an error database is full and my screen opens differently every time with some pop ups missing
T3/r7/2017-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: I can still use the basics but things like my map and my hp bar are missing. any ideas
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: hello techno world? is there somebody there? :)
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Metropolis raises her hand.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Styria bows before Metropolis.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wardsmith Tech: uhn-tss. Ask-tss your question.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: i have a litle problem. i always see the coordinates when i move i would like to remove it, is it possible?
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: i also see the chan world before each channel when someon speaks in it
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: tags off
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Metropolis is agreeing with that Birdbrain Metria person again...
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: ah
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: ah excellent! i don't know how i activated it. maybe accidentely
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: i remember it, thanks lol... thanks a lot
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Did you use the aardwolf mushclient package, then switch to another client?
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: just tryed the packedge
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: with gavascript im trying to match: !<text> <text> <d:<n>> <h:<n>> <m:<n>> and this is my regex /\!([a-zA-Z]+) ([a-zA-Z0-9 ]+) (d\:[0-9]+) (h\:[0-9]+) (m\:[0-9]+)/
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: but when im trying to print it out to my console it errors out that the args are invalid
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: or null even
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: you might nees an extra set of quoting in the console
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: im using nodejs if that makes a difference, 
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: in regex how would i make a group capturable, but not necessary?
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: is there a good reason why AMD software would cap my GPU's fan speed by default?
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: or any reason other than "fans are loud"?
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: if unchecked, a fan can reach the speed of light and reverse time?
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Matanay Soulstealer.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: was testing my new setup, but it was a hot day, and after some stress on the GPU it would crash. upped the fan speed, lowered the target temp, and it stopped happening. was wondering why it wasn't just like that by default.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: maybe they are trying to lengthen fan life?
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: although a strange fact from experience: cpu fans never fail and graphics cards always fail..
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: that was my only thought. open hardware monitor said the fans were only going up to 50% speed, so I upped it to like 75%. I think the fans are swappable on the thing anyway.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yeah, I've had some graphics cards fail, but never a CPU
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: other than the one I acidentally caught on fire
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone have a garmin smartwatch?
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: anyone know how i can reset miniwin positions (or better yet, a specific miniwin position) from the command line? on a smaller resolution screen atm
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Do you mean miniwins from the aardwolf mushclient package, or extra plugins you installed yourself?
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: the former
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Try 'resetaard'
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: thanks.  any idea if it's possible to set miniwin positions, like profiles?
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I don't *think* so, but I'm not really sure on that one.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That'd be a good feature though, you should suggest it to Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: alright thanks
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the plugin would have to be coded with that feature, i'm not aware of any that allow that
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: veritheia, i THINK you can do it if you have separate(differently named) world files. like use one for one monitor and another for the other. however, this also creates 2 separate mapper map files.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: oh yeah no thanks
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: THAT would be awful
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i won't disagree
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: window locations would be saved in their state files, so yeah there's no easy way to accomplish that
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You could trick it by symlinking the mapper database, but that's not exactly easy or portable
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: couldn't you override both world files with the same mapper file? After creation of course.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: wish there was a way to save xxx.cfg and load xxx.cfg.  for i play this on diff computers.  - while saved on dropbox.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: i do too
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mapper db is hard coded to world name
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: and the monitor sizes differ.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sure you could modify it though
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: it's annoying because a lot of settings don't seem to sync properly between computers if both are on
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: well, I am assuming that once the mapper file is created there is a permanent pointer to it in the world file. After you create the second world file one can manually override the pointer to the mapper file.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no the mapper plugin is what is hardcoded to world file name, world file has nothing to do with the database
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: i see, interesting design.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: there is probably a line in the mapper plugin that says "use %worldfilename%.db" which can be changed to thisonealways.db
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: can change 3 lines... db = assert (sqlite3.open(GetInfo (66) .. sanitize_filename(WorldName()) .. ".db"))
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: somewhere there has to be a pointer to the whole mess :)
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: db - assert ("aardwolf.db") then if you didn't change it from default, no?
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: db =, not -
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well there's the backup code too, but effectively substituting "(GetInfo (66) .. sanitize_filename(WorldName()) .. ".db") would work
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah i believe so
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: getinfo(66) is absolute path to mush dir
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: anyways, it would be something you would have to "fix" each time you updated
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: not sure mapper is updated often, i just copy my modified version to new install plugins dir
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: too ugly to contemplate... someone should fix that... adding a field in the world file would probably work.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: not recommended for most though
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: the kludge is what killed the cat :)
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: seems like a request to fiendish with a cherry on top might make it happen
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but i dunno, i mean he removed a field after x-years that s&d relied on, forcing a piss poor mod by nokfah to get "xrt area" to work
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Well to be fair, the field removed was otherwise unused and was unreliable for wht it WAS being used for
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: unreliable?  thats a strong word heh
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the fix is more unreliable :)
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It was! The first room you've been to in an area is not always the first room of the area. Especially if you've used doorway, or summon, or nexus, or got teleported.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you xset the room you want, that was reliable
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Going there once and saying "Ok, this is the first room" is pretty reliable.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: unless you explored more of it later... then you re-xset
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i have huge problems with the fix in relation to "xrt shortname"
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: multiple entries for areas, so even if i xset it, i end up xsetting the "shortname" i think and the long name entry remains fubared
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: for example, i cannot "xrt manor" to get to death's manor
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but that is the short name for it
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if i xset in death's manor it does not update manor (which is tied to manorville)
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I think you're on drugs. I just did xrt manor and ended up in Death's Manor.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: where's your manor?
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The Aardwolf Real Estates.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dunno why it happens, because i implemented nokfah's fix.  but it does
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i have to "xrt death's" because "xrt death" takes me to deathtrap :p
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I wonder if it's dependent on the order the areas are listed in your state file
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: First match, and all that.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that seems likely
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but... manor is short area name for death's manor!
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its supposed to match exact first
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Confirmed, xrt death => deathtrap dungeon
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: anyhow, im considering removing the xrt crap from s&d and making a separate plugin that relies on zones per gmcp
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: gmcp how?
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: zone name for room, redoing all the xset/xrt separately
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: endymion: why? what's the benefit?
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so if i xset in death's manor, it will know that "manor" is death's manor
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: because of the quirks that i dont want to deal with...  "xrt death's" is annoying
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: at SH i had no issues lol
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: I've tried resetting the beginning of areas using xset mark, and it hasn't seemed to work for me.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that's because there are likely 2 entries gilduran, and you are x-setting the one you actually dont use
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: For the save profile of window location/size part, try this
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Replace the <aliases> .... </aliases> part with this
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: https://pastebin.com/UQkuhVw2
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: my god that sounds like work
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Then under reset_aard function, add this: https://pastebin.com/ie3BTy4q
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: each area has an official keyword, why can't you use that? Death manor -> manor, for instance.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Oh this one is for aard_statmon_gmcp.xml
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: I may need to follow up on that after this double
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: won't that just change "resetaard" to 1 possible layout, bamboo?
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: wont allow him to switch between 2 of them
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Well, see here's the command: setwin stat width height x y
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Sample: setwin stat 100 400 50 80
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: So if you're okay with that, save it somewhere
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ahh i see now
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: There's also a command to get the current width, height, x and y
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: getwin stat
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: so you're saying you could make a macro/alias to set each window size manually and then you just use that to change 'profiles'
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Yep
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: With those helper functions
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: It's a little work to add those extra line of codes to the scripts you want (stat window, chat window, map window, etc)
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: But once it's done, it's done
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: I can't believe that as programmable as muchclient is you have to do anything manually.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Until the next update overwrites all your hard work
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I just wrote it, so it's quick and dirty. Fiendish can incorporate it (or something similar), and maybe make it better in some way
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: The way I see it, "resetaard" is a separate alias in each script that has a miniwindow, so you'll have to add those code to all of them separately as well
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: well ideally that would allow each miniwindow to implement its own reset.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Yeah I think that was the idea
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: I just checked xrt hatchling and it took me to one of the rooms down, instead of up, near the beginning. I ran back to the strt of the area and did xset mark, followed by xrt hatchling. xrt took me back to the same room as before I did xset.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Did xset mark give you a message?
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: A big problem here is that there's at least 3 different plugins that provide the xset command
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: yes. Marking room 34652 as the start room for its area.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: What happens if you tried it a second time?
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: same result
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Try diff room?
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: same result
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: I suppose I can look through the script to see what it is adding where, and validate that that has happened.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: I suspect an entry in the mapper database?
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Try doing it on another area?
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: I've tried it on several areas. All with the same result
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dont see hatchling aerie in "areaStartRooms" in extender state
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Mine worked just fine
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: I have lots of aliases created for mapper to take advantage of shorcuts through halls and the hotel, though, so it's not a high priority ATM
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Just tried it again with Beer Goblins, and it takes me to a Bedroom
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: do you have an outdated version of the plugin?
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: hey guys, so I haven't mudded in literally eons. is WinkleWinkle's plugin set still being supported at all?
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Not really, no. Not the original anyway. They've been forked a bunch of times, though.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: the reason I'm asking about Winkle's plugins specifically is because he made the aard mapper stuff accessible for visually impaired people. has anyone maintained that aspect of his plugins, by chance?
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'm sorry, I have no idea.
T3/r7/2017-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I think Fiendish did some work regarding VI stuff. Not sure where though
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: im using nodeJS to run a discord bot, i have a "collector" running, it works beautifully, but the thing is if i mess up i want to stop it, but i cant seem to find a way to do that, it has a call i can make, but when i attempt to make it, it does not work
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: botting is illegal
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: 1) its not for aard, 2) its not illegal for discord :P
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: discord is basically skype
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: skype sucks
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: https://pastebin.com/u0PSkhZr ... thats my code if anyone needs to see it
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flokien Tech: is there a way i can make all the font for all the windows big. or at least load up a preconfigrued screen setting for a larger monitor
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flokien Tech: how do i get the last text output from the world to redisplay
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flokien Tech: like can i change the font in specific windows
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: Alt+Enter, go to Appearance -> Output, change the font for the main window. Right click on the other windows to set the font for them. Alt+Enter, go to Input -> Commands, to set to font for the input area
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EnerJay Tech: hi all, quick question about command history on the android app, any way to increase the amount of commands it remembers? only remembers like 10 at the moment 
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I do not know, sorry
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}C= Amigan Tech: Not sure, but the version of Blowtorch the app uses is very old (2011, however if you search for Blowtorch there's a fairly recent beta version available)
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EnerJay Tech: is that also an android app? and how would I then set up aard on it? lol I'm a total noob to muds
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}C= Amigan Tech: Yeah it should be on the Play Store, then once its installed create a new profile pointing to aardmud.org and port 4000
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EnerJay Tech: cool I'll try it quick and see.. emote grins like a silly man
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EnerJay Tech: lol sorry
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}C= Amigan Tech: The Aardwolf app is basically the Blowtorch client hardcoded to connect to Aard. No worries :)
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EnerJay Tech: when I checked my notification bar it says connected to port 7777 so should I still use 4000 on the blowtorch app? 
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}C= Amigan Tech: Hmm, I know there was a server move some time ago but I've been using aardmud.org 4000 for a long time so would use that unless someone says otherwise
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: does new mush download more RAM?
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: downloading RAM?
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EnerJay Tech: thanks the blowtorch app does indeed look better.. still no option to choose/set number of commands to remember though 
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Why yes, yes it does. I have some land to sell you off the coast of Florida too.
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i want to do that
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Yes, downloading RAM is very common in the internets
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Bridges for sale.  Get your bridges!
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}C= Amigan Tech: EnerJay - Oh well, worth a try :)
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: EnerJay shrugs.. I learned something new about the mid
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EnerJay Tech: mud*
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyblood Tech: i found a error
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyblood Tech: how do i report that error?
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: An error in what, exactly?
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyblood Tech: can't tell what it is exactly, but it says something like "run-time error"
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyblood Tech: an very big error message displayed in here
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's not nearly enough info to even begin to point you in the right direction
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyblood Tech: i entered a room and a big error message displayed, so i thought it could be an error in the room description, i got out of the room and entered again and it wasn't, after reading some part of the error message i can assume it is something about plugins.
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Can we see this big error message, or must we guess?
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I think the error message said, "Raded is great"
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's DEFINITELY an error
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: your face is an error
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded pouts. 
T3/r7/2017-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NotGod Pleiades glares at Birdbrain Metria.
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i accidently deleted my north button
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: how do i get it back
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: North button?
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: yea on blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Ack. I do not know about blowtorch. There must be some setting somewhere in there
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Wait, if I remember correctly, try pressing and holding on the spot where the north button was
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: it will work
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Cool!
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almila Tech: anyone else lagging bad?
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hi everybody
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: i heard new mush downloads more RAM
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: would you like it to?
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: dunno. is it a good thing?
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it could be
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: is mush written in C#?
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I bet https://downloadmoreram.com/ has a service API that I could hook into
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: ok. you're the mush boss
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hwuaijijal :)
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient is written in C++ MFC
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Should rewrite it in Java so it can use all my RAM
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ziv Tech: still see the problem with command "inv" it looks like invdata
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: You can read more about MFC at https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/mfc/mfc-desktop-applications
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Ziv: I bet that your prompt ends in a space
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: please correct that
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: make sure that your prompt ends in %c
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: safe triggers cannot function properly unless your prompt ends in %c
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the alternative is having unsafe triggers, which is unsafe
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: fiend when i load mush it says data full 
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ziv Tech: ok good to know. why does it works sometimes? and on older versions?
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: still works but some pop ups like mapper and hp bar missing 
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Ziv: If I am correct about your prompt, consider writing a note to Lasher describing the problem you experienced and that it was caused by having an unterminated prompt, and that you really think all prompts should be forced to terminate with %c for safety. If I am not correct, let me know and we can look deeper.
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Zagyg - broken plugins? Make sure theyre installed and enabled
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Fiendish, did you write the reset_aard function?
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Zagyg: can you send me a screenshot or copy/paste in email or note the exact full message you get?
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Bamboo: yes
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: if i  close it and load it againit works sometkmes 
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Zagyg: if you need assistance with the procedure for capturing screenshots let me know
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Ziv: type "prompt data" and send me what it says in a note or email
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: i will do that
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: one issue Fiendish. i use ctrl+numN to open doors, alt+num to retreat. the problem is, when pushing alt and NOT gonna use the num, releasing alt has left those file/edit/view... stuff selection active.
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: not a biggy but steals my brain power which is limited already
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Hwuaijijal: File->Global Preferences->General
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: click ALT key does not activate menu bar
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ziv Tech: its adding  to the prompt after posting. so it ends with%c
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Ziv: ?
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ziv Tech: its adding @w to the prompt after posting. so it ends with%c@w
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: %c is fine
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: %c@w is fine
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: as long as there's no space or other symbol 
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it's funny that Aardwolf automatically adds @w but not %c though.
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: click alt yep but alt alone does
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Hwuaijijal: File->Global Preferences->General, then click on "ALT key does not activate menu bar"
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: cool
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: anyone else?
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Ziv: inv fixed yet?
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Fiendish, people are asking if there's a way to make profiles for the windows in MUSH
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: yes, with additional scripting
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I tinkered with one file (statmon) and added a few aliases and functions
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: It works, but some are worried that they will go away when next update comes
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what did you add?
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Zagyg: progress?
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: at work on phone for next 10 hours
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Zagyg: gotcha. Just shoot me a note or email when you get to it.
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: The following:
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: https://pastebin.com/ie3BTy4q
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: https://pastebin.com/UQkuhVw2
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: That only works for statmon window
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hmmm....
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you've given me an idea. I wonder if it will work
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Not pretty, but it works
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: If I don't have something by tomorrow, can you remind me?
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Sure thing
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you're right that it sucks for people with perfectly reasonable/good changes when an update unmakes their edits
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: To be honest, I was thinking of a way to inject text into specific positions in files, but I did not explore further
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Thought I should just tell you about it :p
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: patch files, but it's tricky because they depend on line numbers staying the same. You'd have to have a language aware method
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: See. That sucks to implement :p
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: can't you do a version compare method?
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: some systems are better than others. Perforce has really good three-way change tracking for automatic merges
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: but it's not free
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: anything free tends to be mediocre at this particular problem
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: ahh, I see, maybe I should see if I can modify the one I use for colaborative model building to work in a more generalized coding setting
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: since I wrote it myself, it is "free" at least to me.
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: the dependency tracing could be an issue, not sure how to generalize that outside of matlab or python.
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the thing that Perforce gives you that other VCS merge tools don't is a really good visual representation of the changes, so that, even if it can't be automatically merged, doing it manually is much easier
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: free merge tools that I've used just aren't that good
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: yeah mine doesn't really do that, it just lists the conflict areas if more than one person modifed a specific function, or dependent functions.
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I suck at visual representations
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I often use Meld for visual diffs, because it's mostly not hard to look at. But it just sucks if sections of code have moved around, because it assumes that changes are linear additions or subtractions.
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Which is a pretty standard, but very stupid, 'diff' assumption.
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: -j 10
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo keeps hitting himself in the head and uttering, "Doh!"
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ontuct comforts Tricksy Bamboo.
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: It's hard to know if getting older just naturally makes you less sensitive or if all the exposure is what does it. You start with bikini and nippleless underwear model photos, move on to softcore still images, then hardcore still images, then a mixture of images and tiny/grainy video clips that take an hour to download, and then before you know it you have to spend 3 hours clicking through hundreds of different HD videos to find the perfect one that does it for you.
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: haha
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this is obviously the wrong channel
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I take the blame
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: dont take the blame unless it is yours
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I'm owning it
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: anyone have an auto hunt plugin, not bundled in a larger one?
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I believe yes
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Doesn't bast have one?
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: uhh not sure lol
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: let's see if I can't find one for you
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: looks like there is one in Bast's plugins called bast_hunt.xml
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: ooo ok ill take a peak
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: woot got it! thanks Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish tries to high five himself, but ends up looking foolish instead.
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some socials ought to be euthanised
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: post to the ideas board
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: this if (a=b) {smthn} in javascript is pretty much the stupidest thing ever. cant believe its still there
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you mean not having == or ===?
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i know it so well but its just a matter of time the mistake happens all over again
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's the sort of problem a compiler might warn about
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal nods.
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: does anyone here use the aardwolf mushclient on a really slow computer?
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: i did till the beginning of this year
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i was using core 2 duo for years
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: no trouble
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wondering mostly about how long it takes to make a compressed mapper backup
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreylen Tech: is there a beginners guide on making scripts for mushclient by chance?
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: What do you want to achieve?
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreylen Tech: well I am looking for real basics like for example where'ing 1 - 20 .mobname
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreylen Tech: basically just looking for example files to learn from lol
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I found this page to be a very nice starting point: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=6030
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreylen Tech: excellent thank you.  That seems like what I am looking for
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: nick's site has TONS of stuff on it for dealing with mushclient, lua, etc.
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: not just the forums, also the mushclient documentation
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: And at the bottom of that page is a list of links to just about everything you would want to know :)
T3/r7/2017-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreylen Tech: perfect! appreciate it
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: How i can add note in S&D plugin?
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: note adding is done via gmcp mapper not S&D, use mapper addnote
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: this is addnote in room where mob, right?
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: and a can see that in CP info?
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: cp check*
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: no, its bad
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: yes, you see the notes relevant to the area
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: it will be like running to the area and writing mapper notes here
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: i cant see this note in CP CHECK
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: which area did you write the note in?
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: any
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: it shows area notes per cp item, so if cp is in elemental chaos and you click on notes, you should see notes taken in elemental chaos
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: so you may have a bug... which version of S&D are you using?
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: I am using Starling's from https://github.com/AardStarling/Search-and-Destroy-1.3.1
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: 2.8
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: I am almost sure you need to upgrade, I think 2.8 is pretty old
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: im see note in room where i add this note, but i want see notes in cp check before im going to room, example note: 2.<mobname>
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: I don't think this functionality is available, in cp c you should get the mob name, mob area, notes per area link
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: at least that's how i have it set up, there may be another way but I am afraid I don't know how - if at all possible
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: its possible, i have this in my plugin on other rooms, but i dont know how add new
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreylen Tech: how can I get mushclient aliases to interact with the mapper plugin? For example i want to make an alias to put mapper cexit open w;w in the command line but it just sends it to the world like that
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Does anyone know if MUSH/scripting only supports up to a certain release of python?
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exhale Tech: Who got a nice spellup script for download?
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exhale Tech: How can I see my Mush room number?
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: mapper thisroom
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exhale bows deeply.
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exhale Tech: Suggestion for best free offline dictionarie for windows ?
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: tech encyclopedia britannica - total offline
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: it comes in book form
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: wow. is itfree?
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exhale bows deeply.
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: oh. figures.
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: it's like when I was a kid, you had to look things up in books
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: It's also a terrible dictionary   :p
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exhale Tech: Need a free one.
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: Dictionary.com works offline and is free. Mobile app though
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exhale Tech: Im missing API-MS-WIN-CRT-RUNTIME-L1-1-0.DLL to run a win 7 software, im downloading it now, where should i store that dll file?
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exhale Tech: NV, system32
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exhale Tech: Why if I Click on Gallows via S&D GUI, i trie to run through lvl lock areas?
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I think it's because it calculates the shortest route to your destination. it doesn't take into account level locked areas.
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I've experienced that, as well, though.
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: so if that happens, just use normal server-side runto.
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or just level lock those rooms
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: hm. I dunno how to do that.
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however once you remort those areas won't be level lock anymore
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: true enough.
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: level-locking is quite simple - just point your mapper to room where you want to level lock exit (either by mapper showroom or just by going to that room), then right-click on room and choose "change exit level lock"
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: is there a command-line way of doing that, do you know? 
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I have level locked a lot of Xyl rooms - those with door, that way instead using shortest path my mapper rather leads me through rooms without doors
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can use "mapper lockexit" but that will bring up level-locking dialog
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: that's fine.
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also I have level-locked some aggro rooms - like inn in masq 
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exhale Tech: I downloaded Custom looking folder Icons for windows, anyone know how to make it default?
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exhale Tech: Once I remort, will level lock areas be disgarded from S&D GUI speedwalks?
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: mapper lockexit settings or area level locks in the MUD itself?
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exhale Tech: IDK. If I click on Gallows it attempts to run to high lvl lock areas, and my speedwalk stop due to errors.
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: S&D has no level settings anywhere. mapper lockexit will respect your level regardless of remort status. MUD area locks don't impact you any more after your first remort.
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exhale bows deeply.
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eukanuba Tech: how do I convince dell to sell me a cheap good working computer?!
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: dude youre getting a dell
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eukanuba Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: How do you add the tick timer to the status/info bar of MUSH client?
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: anyone know of a good solution for creating a hotkey to disable a piece of hardware on a windows 10 machine?
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: ideally I'd like to create a toggle key for it similar to the ones I have for wifi and sound
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ziv Tech: what file is holding all my mapper configuration? so i can copy that and the map to a newer version?
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drug Wars Tech: the aardwolf.db file
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: it's in a samsonite briefcase
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ziv Tech: tryed that. but it doesnt have my cexit information. 
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: is there a way to show all of your notes for an area on the screen? I can do it when I have a campaign to that area I can click on the notes next to my S&d and it will show all of my notes for the area, I want to know if I can do that even when I'm not on a campaign to that area
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: mapper notes here?
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I ... think?
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: didn't work
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: you can type mapper notes areaname
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exa Tech: I had it wrong, it does work, thank you very much
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: sure thing! glad to help! :)
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: How can I make mush when I runto amusement, It goes 1north and buy ticket as part of my speedwalk to beginning of that area?
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: How do I put a 2 second delay on a mush trigger?
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: jeepers. doable but needs googling.
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: if you need one to get past certain mobs while running, the mapper help can help
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: After i campaign request, I triggered Questor message to use (cp c) to update S&D GUI, but it strikes to fast and dont accomplish it.
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: if no one can give you an easy answer, a macro key can be assigned. its usefuly by its own
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Macro?
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: yep. they are there in mush world properties
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale bows deeply.
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Why is this bleeding into MUSH main screen? It never happened before. {chan ch=newbie}[Newbie] (Advisor) Aisling: Hello and welcome to Aardwolf, Skeliton.
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Aisling, is it that time of the month?
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aisling Tech: Yeah, you're about due for your monthly smack.
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo flails his arms about wildly.
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Can you type something to let you goto 1) in S&D GUI? Without having to click on it.
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QuickBen Tech: go 1
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jurus Tech: xcp 1  (i think)
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jurus Tech: if you're doing cp's.
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QuickBen Tech: yeah sorry xcp 1 will run to area, go 1 will run to room once it establishes which mob via hunt trick
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale bows deeply.
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: hmmm... I can't seem to turn on my pc. I can see it power on briefly and hear a loud whirring sound, then it powers off
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: after a few seconds it tries to turn on again but then turns off again
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: off or just doesnt light up and work
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: if it is a laptop take the battery out and try again.
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: pc
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: it still sounds like your power supply.
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: I can see various led lights inside the case light up, but then they go off
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: In technical terms, it's all messed up
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: I'm guessing it's either motherboard or power supply
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: doe a second I thought that said motorhead...
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: it doesn't even get to boot screen
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: there arent any magnets anywhere near it are there?
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Birdbrain Metria bonks Azurite on the head for being such an UTTER moron.
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: uh, there's a magnet for a wifi antenna but i doubt that affects anything
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: magnets kill comps
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: is it plugged in?
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: case is metallic, so it's shielded
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: ahhh metallica
T3/r7/2017-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: mine was metal...killed by magnets
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: How to make S&D use runprefix or recall portal before starting speedwalks to CP targets?
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: s&d (well, actually the mapper extender that's included in the package) find the shortest route to your target
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: what're you trying to do, exactly?
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: map your portals. it will pass recall, if that's shorter and you have the garbage can mapped
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: also, check that you have the last version (I think the last one fixed the issue with missing entry rooms from areas). 
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: otherwise, when you rt an area, remember to 'xset mark' the first room
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: ATM when im in an CP area, and click on next CP area or use xcp 1, it fails to exit that area or speedwalk correctly to next area. using recall now everytime after killing CP targets to bypass that problem.
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: map the portals
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: at least the garbage can
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: it will not fail in that case (unles in a noportal area, not room)
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale bows deeply.
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreylen Tech: Anyone know why my triggers aren't firing suddenly in MUSHclient?  They're enabled as well as the indiviual trigger being enabled
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Channel triggers?
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreylen Tech: general simple triggers
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But not on channels like say/gt/or tell?
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreylen Tech: hrm well i'm testing in say as well as the debug send to client thing
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Channels were changed in latest mush no longer can use in game triggers, have to match through GMCP. Fineish changed it so channels only come through GMCP.
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: were you just using that to test or do you want to match that? if testing just use echo.
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreylen Tech: oh hrm
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: So just using to test and can use echo?
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreylen Tech: oh ok that works then thank you
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Fiendish, did you get my note
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes did you get mine?
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Just now :p
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: huehue
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Damn postal service!
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Never Level Tech: i forget the command to have mush tell me the version its running. any ideas ?
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: checkversion
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Never Level Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flokien Tech: anyone use mudlet
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: 3 people do, it would seem
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flokien Tech: I'm just trying to figure out how to display that somewhat graphical world map simliar to how the mushclient package does
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: your best bet is to ask the actual question you have and check history. someone might come along later and answer it
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daragorn Tech: im using the mush client for arrdwolf and im having trouble making a trigger
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: what are you attempting to do and what did you try?
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: well
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I'm not sure I can talk about that here
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan gasps as he realizes what NotGod Pleiades did.
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daragorn Tech: ok ill search google again:)
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: we can help but we need more info..
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: there is a video on how to make a trigger for mush:  https://vimeo.com/80327806       
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: hey guys does anyone play aard wolf on the mac?
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I do
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: so does Icecool
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: me too
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: though.. in a windows VM
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: wineskin here
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay what ap do u use to interface or do u use any ap at all?
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: mush on the vm
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: http://wineskin.urgesoftware.com/tiki-index.php
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: is what I use
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: ehy have u guys ever heard of mudrammer ?
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: hard of it
T3/r7/2017-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: never used it
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: Is there any way to download the client version that was hosted on the Aardwolf website back in May 2009?
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: I am having trouble using the version currently hosted there in the zip file. It crashes upon loading
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: Other versions I try to use wont let me load the Aardwolf plugins
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I assumed you tried the newer version of the client with the plugins
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Did you unzip it before executing?
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: finger fiendish, download it from there
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: Yes I did unzip first. I tried a newer version but not sure if it was the newest version. How do I finger Fiendish?
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: type 'finger fiendish'
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: Attempting that version now. One moment
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: the versions on that website include the plugins
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: I couldnt open the page. My browser cant handle most surfing anymore (WinXP SP2 IE8)
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: I will try to use my phone to download the file and transfer it to my computer. Give me a moment
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: try to install a different browser. opera/chrome/firefox, whatever (that's a general advice, not necesarily related to that)
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/releases/download/r1920/Aardwolf_MUSHclient_r1920.exe
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: that's the direct link
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: I have already tried to do that. None of them will install and the one that did install (opera) crashes sometimes and also wont load any pages
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: Thanks for the link, trying now
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: Wow. Even the direct link didnt work for some reason
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: then you probably should switch over to linux. there are some "legacy" ones around which have very low hardware requirements
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: what in the world are you running, if you can't even surf properly :p
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: Im actually in the middle of building a new machine. Still need a few more components (RAM, SSD, etc) but I will be running Win10 on it. Hopefully it will work much better
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: install kali linux :p
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: WinXP SP2 IE8
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: on windows 10 the new client works 
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: Thats good news for me but unfortunately Im not sure when Ill finish the build
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: works fine on win 7 too
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: Attempting the link again with my phone. Casio GzOne Commando (using Opera Mini) Fingers crossed
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: you can download legacy (clean) mushclient builds from http://www.gammon.com.au/files/mushclient/
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: i think it is much easier to install a proper operating system and then install something for that^^
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: given your situation i'd try working down the list to see what's the latest version you can actually install and run
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: I have tried several versions of those but none will load the plugins for whatever reason
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: you'll have to edit the plugins to make them compatible with the older mushclient versions probably
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: I think youre right. Might have to just go sequentially
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: i'm sure some of the plugins should load fine, just might want to see if you can get the mushclient lua dll file from the repository too
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: i think fiendish uses a luajit dll or something
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: Maybe that was the issue? Bad lua dll?
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: maybe
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hustler Redryn Tech: but then again i can't see why it can't run on windows xp :p
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: Like I said, back in 2009 I had no problems running it. Though.. that computer was the same OS but it was updated. This OS was installed only a couple months ago. The Microsoft Technician was both baffled and impressed I managed to get it to install AND authenticate as the support is long gone
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: I will be back in a bit. Trying lots of things
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: If I do not return, I had to go to work
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: Farewell!
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralfkayne Tech: where do i get plugins for blowtorch?
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: hmm I only know of one public plugin for blowtorch v2
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: the channel capture one
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralfkayne Tech: wich is?
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Seperate window for communication.
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: hmm .... all the links to blowtorch's oldwebsites are down? the offsetnull.com one and the bt.happygoatstudio ones
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone know anything about the Polk T50 tower speakers? (i.e. do they suck, or are they pretty BAMF)
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: Looks like Version 4.90 works pretty well. Copied the Aardwolf plugins over to the proper directory. Slightly buggy with the lua dll it would appear but everything seems to work fine. It's playable anyway. Perhaps I'll make my own client one day. Aardwolf has actually inspired me to learn programming and perhaps one day make my own MUD
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thamos Tech: For now though, I have to run. Got to go to work :|
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: what would cause aard to keep crashing even though internet is running fine?
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Aard hasn't crashed.
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: i meant on one persons computer
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: friend of mine cant log in long, it keeps dcing him
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: On a phone?
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: laptop
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: is it a Dell?
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: asking him now
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: no its not a dell
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NotGod Pleiades goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Is it disconnecting him at random, or is he trying to do the same thing each time? (ie. "note list")
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: random, we were trying to pup
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sounds like his net connection bites
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BossyBoots Audra crosses her arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: thanks guys
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If he's on wifi, he might want to look at that for signal issues
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: i'll tell him, thanks Metria
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: you might get a follow-up call to rate Metria's helpfulness
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: There's a reason you're in jail, you know.
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: Imgrin plei
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: lol typoes
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BossyBoots Audra flashes a mischievous grin at NotGod Pleiades.  Hmm. is it time to run and hide?
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NotGod Pleiades goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylla Tech: I tried out the aard mud client, but it was a little overwhelming. Went back to my original client and I've got some text showing now that I can't figure out how to get rid of. Things like { coords }, { chan ch=gossip } and { rdesc }. Any ideas on how to get rid of those?
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: tags off
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: type tags
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylla Tech: Well, look at that. Thanks!!
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylla Tech: I couldn't figure out what to search for in the help
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: out of curiosity, which client did you go back to?
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylla Tech: I'm using Mudlet right now. I'm not used to having the map and visuals
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: tags will show you which tags you have on, some of them can be useful in other clients as well if you know how to use them with triggers and gags
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: tech ah
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but really mushclient is super powerful, even if you get rid of most/all of the other windows
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylla Tech: I'll probably go back to it and try to get it arranged in a way that makes sense for me
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: however, it is a lot to take in and a fairly steep learning curve to modify it to fit your needs
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: when I started I really only used three windows, the main, the chat log, and the bigmap
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylla Tech: I liked how it broke out the chats into a separate window and it does seem really powerful. I needed to be in a state of mind to play around with the settings and I wasn't quite there
T3/r7/2017-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's fair. Use whatever works for you
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyblood Tech: is there someway to make the *normal* map update constantly?
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: type map
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyblood Tech: i typed map but nothing shows
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyblood Tech: i'd like an auto update..
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyblood Tech: typing map/ map update seens to update the map, yea..
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulreset Tech: hey guys does anyone know how to make the screen stop moving everytime you try to press a button on mobile?
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreylen Tech: is there a built in iteration function in MUSHclient like from zmud? Where for example you could do #10 tell %i.soldier hi or something like that and it would go through 1.soldier, 2.soldier etc
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: not directly I think.. but there should be sample code in search and destroy plugin for ht command of it
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreylen Tech: hrm ok i'll look through there thanks
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: honestly I took the easy route.. I only need sth like that for where sometimes.. so, I made an alias, which wheres for the first 10..
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreylen Tech: yeah something like that is easy enough to make but i'm just thinking for other use cases possibly and simplicity
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: well, the only other thing I can think of is hunt and s&d covers it..
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreylen Tech: yeah i guess locate object already lists a ton, maybe scrying or gating or something
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: well, lately killing is faster than any other method.. so, kill first, ask questions later is my motto.. you don't need much that way
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreylen Tech: lol true
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EnerJay Tech: i'm using the mushclient but i want to know how to format the window that has all the stats? the gold doesn't fit
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EnerJay Tech: lol nevermind it's only showing carried gold sorry!
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Is there a keyboard key combo to lock windows?
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Windows Key and L should work
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale bows deeply.
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Looks easy in retrospect.
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: This is handy when wandering hands & eyes are in the vicinity when your not here and need to go.
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Anyone have luck getting python scripting to work in MUSH?
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: anyone know regular expressions really well?
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I want to do a trigger that can have any alphabetical characters at the start of the line, but no spaces or non alphabetical characters, followed by multiple spaces, then a specific sequence of characters.
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but I don't want it to trigger if there is more than one set of alphabetical characters before the specific sequence or any numerical characters before the sequence
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Something like.. (*.\s-)\sSPECIFIC ?
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: No idea
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: like if you do a where and you get a character name and then ???
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: actually exactly that :)
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: but what are you trying to get the trigger to do. If it ends with a specific sequence why not trigger off that part?
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: because I don't want it to trigger anytime I see ??? just when I see it on a where
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I could do it with wh
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: with alias and enable/disable the trigger
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I guess that would be the easiest way to do it
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Man scripting is too much work
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: For too little functionality
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: trigger Players near you: to enable the trigger, and [ (start of prompt) to disable it
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: then it should only trigger on the output of the where, or on the incredibly rare instance that I see another ??? before getting prompt back
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: just not sure how inefficient turning triggers on and off every few seconds might be.
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: is there a flag for triggers that cause them to disable themselves when they trigger (disable not delete)?
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yes, but I can't help you as to what it is, but it does exist
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: um, I am talking apecific to MUSH
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: i know one shot makes it delete itself
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: there's a box for temporary, never used it though
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I could just send to script instead of send to world and then do executes and sendtoworlds for the stuff I want to send through
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but that seems clunky
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: EnableTrigger("triggerName, false")
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Seems to disable a trigger
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: yeah I know that, but I can't have that in a trigger that sends to 13 (world immediate)
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: afaik
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: hmm that didn't work
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: i mean the trigger works, but it still triggers twice before it shuts itself off if there are multiple things to trigger it in a single outputset
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I think I might have to have the original trigger add a oneshot trigger instead of enabling a trigger that disables itself.
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EnerJay Tech: i'm on mushclient and i keep seeing things like {affoff}423 and i want to know how to get rid of it?
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: tags off
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EnerJay Tech: tried that and it didnt work
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: turn it off, then back on again?
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Then you have something switching them back on.
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: A plugin or script.
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can also just do tags spellups off
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EnerJay Tech: just have the default mushclient for aardwolf plugins enabled
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EnerJay Tech: thanks that worked
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EnerJay Tech: now i'm getting {invmon}2,1841983953,-1,26 whenever i remove and rewear items...
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Type 'invmon' :p
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EnerJay Tech: lol i've been playing on the mobile version the whole time and only setting up the mushclient now.. sorry for my noob questions lol
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Eh, you're okay.
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: how to tell youtube to not get suggestions ever from one particular.. string
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: like doug demuro
T3/r7/2017-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: when clicking the most satisfying "x" button, it doesnt matter. doug still comes up with searches
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nihmindus Tech: is there a place I could download a script set to make mudlet work similar to mush?
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yes, all you have to do is write that script and put it up on a website somewhere
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: (Type 'clients' - there's only 2 people using mudlet, the chances of there being much aardwolf-specific scripting available are not high)
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: how do i update a speedwalk from the mapper, some reason insanitaria is messing up a oouple speedwalks
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: in mush
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Depends on what it is you need to change.
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: i tried purging the zone but its still trying to tkae me through a wierd path through insanitaria
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Use normal runto to get there, then 'mapper thisroom'. Make note of the GMCP id. Go back to recall, 'mapper where <room id>' and make note of the path
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Then walk it step by step to see where it messes up.
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You may be able to get away with just purging a single room, or maybe adding a cexit.. depending on what's wrong in your maps
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Insanitaria has nomap rooms. you can work round them using multi-move cexits.
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: good luck, soldier
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: nevermind, I was thinking of Imagi
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: some reason my path to damned is cedria,run seunw3s2wse which fails bigtime
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What's cedria?
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: portal to insanitaria
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Ah okay.
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: So walk that path a step at a time, find where it messes up, and purge that room.
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: hi
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: ih
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: i am tying to turn off all colours in mushclient, is there a way to do it? 
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: prefer to play in black and white
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Just type 'ansi'
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: ah... thats easy lol
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It turns the colors off MUDside.
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: ASCII a stupid question, get a stupid ANSI
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: keep your ANSI off this channel.
T3/r7/2017-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's ASCII stupid question, not ASCII a stupid question.
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: my map using bast's plugin suddenly shows weird symbols (maptype 1) where it used to decode unicode properly, I have no idea why
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drug Wars Tech: whats the command to reset aardmush gui again?
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drug Wars Tech: ty
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Help! All of a sudden all of my Aard windows are squished up on the right side of my screen and the rest of my Mush is just grey
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: _h 1-
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: resetaard i guess?
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: That just overlapped all my windows on the right side of my screen
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone a debian user, having trouble with 'stretch' on vmware?
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: so quiet
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: wanna see something funny?
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i bought this mouse pad a few months ago: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9vhOULDsX8FZEFZVmk3bFVkMUU
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: cool
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: im confused
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: they sold it when it was flat.
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: now it curves
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: i use a huge xl mouse mat
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: good for those fps games :)
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I used the QcK Heavy pad because it makes me better at video games
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: it helps if you run with a low sens
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: need a large surface just to do a 180
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: same
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: well mine has a super sweet cloud9 logo on it
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Packmate Daragorn Tech: how often are new races classes added?
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9vhOULDsX8FY0oxM2pUTG50LVU
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: way to design a mouse pad
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: get you a better mousepad hwuai
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Daragorn: almost never
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: strange, is it humid where you live?
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Packmate Daragorn Tech: ok then i wont post the ideas board
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: it was good for 2 months
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i aint gonna buy another one. just get 2-sided mcgyver tape and pay them nothing
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: last time races were added was 1997, I think
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: is it possible to "mapper cexit" an alias that you create?
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: mapper cexit say what's up doc?
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: ahhh so just "mapper cexit knoss" for example, it will auto activate your "knoss" alias?
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, it will
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: cooooool
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: mapper sends the cexit commands to execute so your clientside aliases are resolved
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that the alias cannot have "mapper goto" statements in it
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: oh ok
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: mapper goto is useful lol
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: a pity
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: how so? I can't see a situation where I would want mapper goto in an alias
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the mapper cexit is essentially a mapper goto as well...you're changing "where I am" from out from under it
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: in a cexit*
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so have your alias do run nes ; buy 2 ; run n2wn ; buy 2, etc.
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: making a pattern to match all prompts is impossible...your #4 to have your plugin craft the pattern from the prompt code would be better done by using "p data" than by using "config" output...your #1 of turning prompts on/off is best done by using telnet option 102, which lets you turn prompts on/off without using in-game commands...
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mentioned doing get/put...note that if you're doing bag manipulation, you'll want to use the MUSHclient speedwalk command to "pace" the commands, otherwise you'll kick yourself off if there are too many items being manipulated...check out Madcatz's bagsort plugin for doing that
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Thanks for the advice.  I'll look into the telnet option.  The bag manipulation code works great so far so I don't think I need any additional pacing, but I'll keep that in mind too.  Thanks again!
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: for bag manipulation i use a doafterspecial with .2*x time for loops
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you doing something different than madcatz's bagsort has done for 8 years? (level-based get/put, re-ordering)
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: My plug-in auto-identifies everything in inventory and sends that data client-side so that I can analyze "optimal" available equipment sets at any given time based on your stats with your current spellup
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It can tell you exactly what levels each item is used (or not used) and what stats each item will contribute to your overall set stats
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, for that I'd probably look at Bast's eqdb, as it puts all of your stuff and its stats into a sqlite database...
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so putting yours as just a query front-end to that would be much nicer than a from-scratch implementation
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ok, I may check out that plug-in.  The code is already written though :)  It was a fun exercise learning lua
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm just trying to clean it up a bit now before I release it 
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Never Level Tech: whats the command to lock the layout in mush?
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard layout lock
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Never Level Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Never Level Tech: is there a helpfile for the various commands mush has ?
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Note that only works with the "core" plugins. Ones you add afterwards (campaign managers, etc) don't listen to the layout lock command
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll only lock the windows which use Fiendish's windowing system, though
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (well, not just "core"...it'll work with mine, too:P)
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Ok, cool
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well regardless, plugin commands are not mushclient commands
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (taking "MUSHclient commands" to mean Fiendish's packaged client...) there's a whole lot more than a helpfile could cover, but there's pretty extensive documentation at Fiendish's site, or an out-of-date-but-better-accessible version at http://abelinc.me/clientdocs
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Do I have to change that url to abelinc.you when I load it?
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him.
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: aard layout lock should work for all miniwindows as long as they use movewindow.lua and don't hand-roll dragging
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, it's just the reset and z-axis stuff that's particular to following your window style then
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's Bast's stuff then
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: development branch also has layout saving for any plugin that keeps working after its miniwindows are yanked around
T3/r7/2017-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this often requires some changes to how the position variables are stored
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, you are using invdetails rather than identify, right?
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ouch.  No, I was using identify instead of invdetails.  Looks like I might have missed that one.  Does invdetails have all of the information available via identify?
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: only if you have the identify wish
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: And honestly, the identify wish is glorious and everyone should get it eventually
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it has more info than the identify command
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and can tell you things like damtype for weapons without having any spells/skills
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: the identify wish gives you waht Hester gives you.
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, I love my identify wish.  Maybe I got too hooked on it and should have investigated invdetails sooner :)
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: well, invdetails works with the wish, you get complete info in invdetails if you have the wish.
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Looks like I'll want to write a trigger to parse invdetails too.  I can use that in conjuction with my other trigger that can pull the same info from auctions, shops, or identify.
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: identify wish is very nice...I like using it with lore to have the 2 syntaxes to identify worn items :-)
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: well, you'll need some sort of scripted API to handle all the info.
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ident <itemname> worn vs lore <slot>...for times when you remember one vs the other attribute of the item
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: every time an item is handled you get information, when you load it, when you drop it, when you move it, etc.
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, I already have the code to pull everything from an identify, auction, etc.  I'd just need to also handle parsing invdetails
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: invmon 4, 5, 10, or 12....if itemID is in database, do nothing...else invdetails itemID
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yes, that's very similar to what I'm using.  The only real difference is that I was calling identify instead of invdetails.  What is the main advantage of using invdetails instead of identify?  Is it just that it is easier to parse?
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's designed to be machine-parsed
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: invdetails is a one-liner
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, not necessarily 1-line...
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: well, practically a one-liner :)
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and won't get messed by too many flags, etc.
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: invdetails a weapon...
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: but as you say, the main advantage is that it was designed to be parsed.
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ah, that may have been handy a month ago 
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ah, that may have been handy a month ago :)  I already worked out the triggers for parsing identify though and that is handy since I can use the same code for auctions and shops too
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure you test on various item types and items with multi-line flags for ident parsing, for temporary mods, the newer stuff like separate enchant lines, etc.
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I had an ident-based eqdb system from pre-tags...I still use that for my enchant script, but have updated the main eqdb system for invdetails
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yep, that's good advice -- thanks
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I wonder how many CPU cycles I'd save parsing invdetails instead of identify.  That might be worth investigating at some point...
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: probably not many CPU cycles, it's just more reliable
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: by the time you capture the identify data you will have finished parsing invdetails.
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Heh, you haven't seen my lua code for parsing identify :P  I was pretty new at lua when I tried that and I'm sure it is horrifically inefficient.  I could probably do a bit better now if I re-did it for invdetails.  I'll add that to my wishlist :)
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, now that you've got me looking at the output, I never updated my trigs for the new {enchant} lines
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Thanks again everyone for the feedback.  It's past my bedtime now though...night!
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: is there one (or more) solid equipment manager plugins for mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's eqdb and eqsets
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: thanks i'll look into them
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rivera Tech: Hi, I've got a question. Just started playing the game on my mobile device and noticed that I sometimes can and sometimes can't use the buttons to navigate . 
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: how to create an alias on mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: help alias works well enough
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: file>world properties>aliases
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: theres no limit on alias here on aardwolf side?
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: yes there is. it can't take parameters if you have multiple commands
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: 'alias ch cast harm' will allow you to 'ch rabbit', and it will work. 'alias cbh cast blind;cast harm' will not allow you to 'cbh rabbit'
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i know how to do the alias, i just couldnt find it in my mushclient
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: for that, you need client-side aliases
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: nod, i found it after someone mentioned it over tech
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: alt+enter - input - aliases
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I seem to have a stuck miniwindow from the WW/S&D plugins I have disabled all of those plugins and the thing is still there.
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: and I can't move it or anythin g
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: does bast's eqs plugin know your tier or do you need to tell it/manipulate it so that you wear the appropriate level items?
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it knows
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: uhm is there something special I have to do to make bast's eqs use a shield?
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i make a button and it says it needs y coordin more than 0
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: why can t i just make the button
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Obviously because your y coordinate isn't more than 0.
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: both are so how do i fix it
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: over 0
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't know. I don't use blowtorch.
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: thanks for your hep
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: not hep help
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne grins evilly.
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: can straight talk move muy mins from one phone to the otherone
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: just bought one and need to switch
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: anyone knkow how to turn on h
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: its the service and poor assembly
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: im confused
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: we know
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: haptic feed back for majestic
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: no 
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: anyone got answers?
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: blowtorch settings. how to get there on a majestic phone
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: _h 10
T3/r7/2017-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: offended
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: having trouble capturing a variable, not sure why I'm not matching with my trigger, here's what it looks like https://pastebin.com/QZzsgVqB
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: - h 10
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: _**
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: anyone have any good suggestions for triggers/scripts to remind me I am on a quest?
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: was thinking of something like making a quest assignment trigger that turns on trigger group containing a series of triggers that transition tick messages step by step into full line flashing beeping (maybe even text message sending) extravaganzas, and a quest completion (or fail) trigger that returns tick message to normal turns off the trigger group and resets the counter.
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soliloquy Tech: i just use my memory
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: if I had one of those I wouldn't need triggers.
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Think that would work?
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I need something that turns my screen totally black until I type quest complete
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I assume you mean once you have actually completed it
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: I am just glad I am not the only one who forgets to hand in their quest and then remembers 10 minutes later
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: of course
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: It would have to check that I'm at a questor, so I don't cheat.
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: having trouble figuring out how to make a trigger that captures a variable in mush
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: is there a command to see the room number of the room you are currently in?
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: mapper thisroom
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: not sure how you do it outside mapper
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: anyone know about aardwolf and the majestic androi d
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I tried Blowtorch client once
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: im using it but its different from my phone
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: is there a way to change the color of a specific comm channel?
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: help colorset
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: anyone available for a S&D question?
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Just ask, if someone knows they will respond
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: and if they don't, someone might come along later and respond so check history later too
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: the S&D mini window has disappeared and I cannot get it to reappear. I have uninstalled and reinstalled but no luck. cp check results are surpressed so I have no idea what's left on my campaign
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: 'Sorry Lundfu, you can't do that.
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: it doesn't register
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i might be messing up syntax
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: nope that is the right syntax
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: extender help
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: more than likely your other windows are set to "bring to front" and that window has a low enough priority it will hide
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I take advantage of that since I can't ever get it to resize and I have other windows partially hiding it
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: got it! the extender made me double check that was installed.. it wasn't
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: installed the other two and I'm back in business
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i need a genious
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: you need a dictionary 
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drug Wars Tech: Why is sharptracker making me look in the room after every mob death... is this intended?
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: check the st_toggles stuff, but also type toglook to turn that off
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drug Wars Tech: oh ty! that was terribly annoying :)
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lord Azaghal is agreeing with that Drug Wars person again...
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aisling Tech: On MUSHclient, is there a way to gag something on a channel, without having to ignore the person?
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: mushclient and ignore are 2 separate things
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yes, of course, just gag the text
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=2
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can follow those direction I think.
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aisling Tech: Yes. I'm wanting to accomplish the first without having to resort to the second.
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aisling Tech: Thanks, Turie.
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I mean basically just paste the test into your trigger and replace what they actually say with a star, click the convert to regular expression and the omit from output buttons and your'e done..
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: test = text*
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: you're
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: lol thanks
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Comm log might still show it though, if it's on a channel that you can see
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's a really good point
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not sure you can gag the comm log without getting in a bit deeper..
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Yeah, probably have to tinker with the gmcp chat scripts, then handle from within directly
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'd just ignore the person personally.. lol
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Birdbrain Metria is agreeing with that Yajan person again...
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like what's the difference at that point?
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: easier to unignore than roll back all the changes you went through to gag them
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: At some point, tiptoeing around someone that's being an asshole to avoid hurting THEIR feelings just becomes counterproductive
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: There is a limit to the number of people you can ignore
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aisling Tech: It's more a matter of removing spam on channels, really...
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: on an important side note, you can ignore yourself, and if you do you can't use socials on yourself
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aisling stares at the sky.
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: by the way.. not sure if it helps your situation, but you can edit which channels are sent to the comm log..
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you could remove a channel from it and then gag the text
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: though I don't know if you'd really want to do that
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I am getting a wierd bug with the miniwin_help plugin, I traced it down but still can't figure out what to do about it
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: got flyswatter?
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: it only occurs when I try to access a help with different colors in it (like race, class, subclass helps and of course help colors).
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: Run-time error
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: Plugin: miniwin_help (called from world: Aardwolf)
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: Function/Sub: help_redirect called by trigger
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: Reason: processing trigger "multi_line_help" when matching line: "{/help}"
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: ...\lua\aardutils.lua:133: bad argument #1 to 'RGBColourToName' (number expected, got nil)
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: stack traceback:
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: in function 'RGBColourToName'
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: ...\lua\aardutils.lua:133: in function 'printstyles'
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: [string "Plugin: miniwin_help"]:357: in function <[string "Plugin: miniwin_help"]:334>
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ouch.
T3/r7/2017-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: sorry for the spam, just wanted to share the actual error message.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: emm:  if line == "" then
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: styles = {{text=" "}}
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: uhm okay huh?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: for some reason he's inserting that space value which doesnt have a textcolour
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sorry was looking into your spam post :p
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i got sidetracked earlier, went back to it
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: okay i found that line
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so what do I do with it?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: can I just put a color code in there?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well i removed the if..  but for some reason it doesnt show in the window
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it doesnt error now though
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so if you request a help that has color codes in it it just sends it to the main window, but otherwise it sends it to the miniwindow?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: not exactly, other help files have colors just not that funky title stuff
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: havent figured out why exactly it doesnt print to window
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i'm not going to keep trying to trace the problem, but it seems to start with the fact that the help file doesn't contain: Help Keywords
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: without that Keywords section it doesnt set a help topic, and it rolls downhill from there
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: help color has help keywords and it causes the same error
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i have no problem seeing "help color" in the miniwindow
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: are you getting the error after failing to see help race?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: once it fails, you will see it on everything until reload
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I was, now I am getting a different error anytime I load the plugin at all
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: going to try deleting it and redownloading it
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: unless there's a different version i doubt that will help.  its a script file and no obvious errors other than bad expectations
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: i just mean I think I screwed something else up since I had previously loaded it with no problem and gotten at least some helpfiles to work
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: and now I am not able to get it to even enable without breaking
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: hiya fiendish
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what's the problem?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: gettign a wierd error using bast's miniwindow help plugin
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably this: https://github.com/endavis/bastmush/issues/15
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: one mudside solution would be to report what I put in that issue as an Aardwolf bug
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: ill lookinto it
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (it's not quite a bug, but I suppose it could be treated as one)
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: current_help_topic never gets set because of this: local keywords = string.match (line, "^Help Keywords %: (.+)%.$")
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but then again i cant find where that actually matters :p
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you think that the given link is not your issue, I'll need more details
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I pasted the error message awhile back in tech
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: can you paste it again?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm not good at reading history when I'm tired
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: sure
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: Run-time errorTech Plugin: miniwin_help (called from world: Aardwolf)
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: Run-time errorTech Plugin: miniwin_help (called from world: Aardwolf)
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: grrr
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: gimmie a sec gonna edit it in notepad++
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can post it to me in a note if you need
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or email
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: Run-time error
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: Plugin: miniwin_help (called from world: Aardwolf)
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: Function/Sub: help_redirect called by trigger
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: Reason: processing trigger "multi_line_help" when matching line: "{/help}"
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: ...\lua\aardutils.lua:133: bad argument #1 to 'RGBColourToName' (number expected, got nil)
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: stack traceback:
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: in function 'RGBColourToName'
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: ...\lua\aardutils.lua:133: in function 'printstyles'
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: [string "Plugin: miniwin_help"]:357: in function <[string "Plugin: miniwin_help"]:334>
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when did it happen?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: anytime I tried to bring up help on anything that had custom colors in it
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: like help class, help cleric, help oracle, help ratling, help color
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I see. sorry, I posted the wrong link then.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but help and help policies8 etc worked fine (before the error happened or after a reinstall)
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: please type checknum. 
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the printstyles is failing because a blank line adds in a table of styles = {{text=" "}} which has no actual style info
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ugh
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not checknum
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (tired, sorry)
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: checkversion
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: using R1920 atm
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: really. hmm.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: gimme a sec
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so you cant rgbcolourtoname a nil value...
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: of course not
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish giggles.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: anyway I was trying to trace it down and I think I screwed something up in the file because now I get massive error spam anytime I try to reinstall or enable the plugin
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so I am going to download again
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but there is an underlying issue of why it doesnt display in the window of course
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: it does display in the window for other helps
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: i'm looking at the indicated error now
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: well it did, now it doesn't do anything at all because I can't get it to load
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it'll take me a bit
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: well I am going to delete the offending files and replace them with the versions from the zip
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which zip
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: bast's zip?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: the same one I got it from two days ago
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: from the one in his finger message
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: yes I have been fingering bast :)
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which help are you testing with, btw?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its not custom colors doing it... colors are colors when it comes to styles.  normal help files have darkcyan in them
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the error she gets is because the table inserted has no textcolour item
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but removing that does not make it display in the window
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when Emm comes back we will learn what helpfile is being used to test 
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: help race
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish groans loudly.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so then it is probably the link I posted after all
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes, i have no doubt. but i couldnt figure out what it was related to.  i assumed it was because there is no Keywords section
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: try help sectors or help map instead
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nah. If Emm says that help sectors works fine, then it's because of what the link I posted indicates
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: exactly, i had no trouble with "help colors" either, definitely not a color issue
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: luckily for everyone I already tracked that bug down 
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but yeah i see keywords is just used to add a tab.  i gave up trying to figure out that plugin
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (not fixed in the plugin though, maybe post it as a game bug/typo on the bugs board)
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: okay got it reloaded and help brought up miniwindow
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Emm: before you bother, see what we just said on tech -h 20
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so what did you want me to check help for next?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Emm: do 'help sectors', 'help map', 'help colors'
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: help sectors worked fine
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: well crap they are all working now
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: let me try help oracle that was the first thing that screwed it up last time
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: no help oracle screwed it again
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: help oracle fits into the category of helps that show during character creation or login
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which I already know won't work
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it sounds like this is exactly just https://github.com/endavis/bastmush/issues/15
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which has one of two possible solutions, either get those help files to be reformatted to be consistent with all the other help files or get the plugin fixed, which may not be trivial
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: okay so if it is only the helps that show during character creation then I can fix that I think
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: ill report it as a bug if you think that will help, but I am assuming it has already been reported :)
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: good luck, that thing is a bear
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't think it has been reported as a bug, but my memory is kind abad
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: kinda bad
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: it shouldn't take too much to just have it not send those particular helps to miniwindow
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the report should be something like "all other help files have a line of hyphens before the closing {/help} tag
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: inelent as sin, but if it works then woot
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's true. that would also be a reasonable workaround
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: certainly better than erroring
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: its too late for me to code anything tonight, but next time I have a free hour during the day I will see if i can throw some bailing wire and bubble gum together and get back to you
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: oh wow I almost did something collossally stupid
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: seems unlikely
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: was about to open a telent window and create a new character
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: just to check what helpfiles are accessible there
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: lets not get nuked trying to trace a bug
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure the mud warns you if you have another character logged in
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you don't get nuked right away
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: i don't see how it could in this case since the telnet client is on my tablet not my laptop, but good to know
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: same router right? :p
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: plenty of people over the years have had siblings or partners who also played Aardwolf in the same house or apartment
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: unless you are using wireless network
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: no tablet is cell data not wifi
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: nod
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: multiplay away
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it just means your characters get flagged for review by immortals. maybe they give you a few tests or something
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I don't break rules if I can avoid it
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: been an imm on too many muds to tolerate it in myself
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Right
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: for now I'll just disable that plugin and look into it when I am not half asleep
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no lets have an argument about intent vs action
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: uhm huh?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: sure but do it on gossip or curse don't need to spam the nice people on tech
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: nevermind, making a joke about "multiplaying" when you are just testing a result and not actually playing
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I have another question for you fiendish (or Bast if he is ever around)
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: why does charge never seem to actually count in the damage for a fight (even against a single target), with the exception of things like the mobs in the bishop's manor in rosewood that mprog and smack you before the charge damage hits?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: to be clear I mean in bast's plugins specifically the one that puts up damage summary after fight
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i'm no fiendish, but i would guess that the damage happens before the plugin broadcast of fighting comes thru
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: hmm yeah I guess that makes sense
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: charge may hit the mob before the fight begins
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I mean I completely get why aoe damage counts as damage to the current main target regardless of what mob it hits
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: really? I don't
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: because there is nothing in the plugin to assign damage to a target
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: it just counts damage between fight start and exp obtained
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: the trigger lines all end before the mob name
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh, you mean you understand how it does, not why it does. 
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: too complex to assign damage to multiple targets at a time
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: would have to have multiple buckets, and even then how would it sort for multiple mobs with same name
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: questionable, but I'm not willing to think too much about design questions like that
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: unless the GMCP flags or whatever are way more powerful than I know.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm sure that given a few minutes I could probably convince you that it doesn't need to behave the way it does re: aoe
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: also name in damage would sometimes not match mob name in gmcp.  yes the gmcp could be so much better
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I mean if I do aoes against 5 "Servant to Gleon" exactly how could it know which one was which
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: without privleged serverside info anyway.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, if you want to see what the plugins are getting from the game, type 'gmcpdebug 1'
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: gmcpdebug 0 will disable it
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: cool
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drug Wars Tech: is there an easy way to block win 10 from doing updates?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: google block win 10 updates
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: yeah I see nothing in there that I could use to differentiate different versions of enemies with exact name match
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I promise that doesn't need to matter
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drug Wars Tech: I have in the past and couldnt get the suggestions to work but ill give it another shot
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: not to mention the enemy name and the display text don't always match
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i thought only win10 Pro you can stop updates
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: wars, I do it by a firewall rule on my router :)
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I have to go in and manually allow the traffic through for anyone on my network to be able to communicate with microsoft
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but I am a bit of a *censored*.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drug Wars Tech: yea I dont have pro and i use a phone tethered to my laptop for internet but the darn updates kill my data in like an hour
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: iphone or android for tethering device?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drug Wars Tech: android
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: iirc there is an app that lets you block certain ports on the tether
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: that would make your computer not be able to update until it was on some other network
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drug Wars Tech: hmmm I use a tethering app my phone wont tether without one so not sure if that would work
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I forget which ports the updater uses, but I am sure you can find it
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I would think it would be an option in any good tethering app
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: im guessing you haven't rooted the phone
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok going to sleep now
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this conversation isn't interesting
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: afaik whenever someone posts a work around for getting the win10 machine itself to not do the updates MS pushes an update that breaks that workaround
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drug Wars Tech: no its not rooted
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I think you can tell it not to do updates on public networks, and then declare the tether network public, but that breaks a whole bunch of other things you may not want to break
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: https://www.howtogeek.com/226722/how-when-and-why-to-set-a-connection-as-metered-on-windows-10/
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drug Wars Tech: ill check that out
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that could help your issue, since you have data caps and no tinfoil hat
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: oh yeah metered connections
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: that should totally work!
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: sometimes I overlook obvious solutions :(
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: probably interference from my hat :)
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: theres nothing wrong with doing it your way, if it suits you :)
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i have seen updates go good/bad/good/worse/good so i dont cut them off
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I just prefer to chose when I update my machine myself
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: theres not much security risk really if you control your router and practice safe internetting right
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: mainly because if it decides to do it in the middle of a long data run in my model it can cost me weeks of cpu time
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I should really switch all the long data runs to the remote cluster at my department at school, but I am too lazy to do tht.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: oh and the charge thing seems to be the room.info gmcp tag stopping the combat between the charge damage and the first round of combat
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: it goes, start fight tag, room.info (move) tag, charge damage, vitals/status tags (showing fighting again), then the cast or combat round stuff
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its just plugin dynamics.  the plugin waits for the gmcp to show state=3 (fighting). until then it doesnt record damage, so charge technically comes in before you are in combat
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: presumably the move dumps prior fight data to prevent it from counting up damage and time from a mob you fled from into a mob you later fight
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I think it is more to do with the gmcp flag showing fighting BEFORE the room change, but not between the room change and the charge damage
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: but yeah it is clearly wrapped up in the way the plugin handles the gmcp data
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: those gmcp messages are independent, and yes its all about how gmcp comes thru
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: what do you mean "independent"
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: of each other, or of the battle spam?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i mean char.status and room.info are independent
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but i see what you are saying
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: yeah the plugin is choosing to treat changing rooms as termination of a fight
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so it is seeing a fight start, then seeing the room change, then seeing some damage, then seeing a new fight start
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i assumed the issue is that charge damage comes across before gmcp sends char.status is in combat
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: it doesn't
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I mean it does in a way, but not in the way you are thinking
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: interesting, i dont have that plugin
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: once i finish burnign off my double exp kills I am going to go to rosewood and turn the gmcpdebug back on
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: and see if the mprog is sending a new fight intiiation after the room change tag
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I wonder if that could be considered a "bug"
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: really the fightstatus should send AFTER the room change
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: not before.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: is this combattracker?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: no it's bast's
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: xbroadcastkills i think
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: oh yeah combattracker is part of it too
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: multiple plugins working together I think
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yep, i see where room change resets the data.  but i havent looked at how charge comes thru relative to gmcp char.status so i'll take your word for it :)
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: or relative to room.info even
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: all I know is when I turned on the debugger, and charged it gave me a fighting status message followed by a room change message, followed by the charge damage (text not gmcp), followed by another fighting message
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so charge is counting you as in combat.. but the room change kills the plugin data.  makes sense.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: well oddly the only "new" gmcp tag that came through a comm.channel one for the mobscreaming at me, but he did swing on me before my frenzied attack
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so apparently either the plugin tracks those specific commchannel gmcps or (much more likely) the mob swinging on you starts up the combat regardless of the fighting state
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: well that is really odd
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: the verbose version of the communication (mobsay) gmcp tag actually does contain the fighting status flag, BUT this time the mob that screemed and attacked me missed, and the plugin did NOT track the charge damage
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: interestingly I actually charged two mobs that time, and the second one hit me, but wasn't the enemy I was fighting in the status messages, he also didn't get the charge damage assigned to him, but he somehow did get his share of the aoe damage
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: so the thing can track the aoe damage between two mobs correctly under at least some circumstances, but not all.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: very very very confusing.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malis Tech: Has anyone else had any issues with the custom client not interpolating items strings when viewed through the inventory? Example here: https://pastebin.com/GDQvF1V3
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diet  Redcola Tech: Anyone on that knows MUSHclient really really well?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diet  Redcola Tech: Specifically, using a trigger to call a world.function?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: say what you want and you might get a response.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diet  Redcola Tech: I'm trying to set up a trigger to turn a trigger group on an off.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diet  Redcola Tech: I'm using world.EnableTriggerGroup "groupname", 1 per the relate MUSHclient help pages. However, I must have something in the wrong spot.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diet  Redcola Tech: I keep getting a compile error. "[string "Trigger: "]:1: unexpected symbol near ','"
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diet  Redcola Tech: Anyone have any clue how to enable and disable a group of triggers within the client?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: world.EnableTriggerGroup ("groupname", 1) ?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or maybe true instead of 1 , not sure whether that matters
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=EnableTriggerGroup - check "Lua example" part
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diet  Redcola Tech: It was the ()
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diet  Redcola Tech: The 1 and 0 are working fine. I was using the example of the statement at the top which does not have () around the call. 
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diet  Redcola Tech: Thanks for the fix. :)
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Why have to turn off windows firewall all of the sudden to connect to tethered internet?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: could be your firewall is conflicting with the connection. May be a setting. it could think it's a remote access, maybe? did it just randomly start doing it, or did you recently change something?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Chacnged nothing, my firewall is always ON, just today it started woth this.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Changed nothing, phone to PC connection.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: hrm. what about what you're tethering to? none of that has changed at all either?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: what version of windows are you on?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: 7
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: is it set to auto update? If it is, it may have updated and changed a default setting perhaps
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Windows update is set to never.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Perhaps its the cellphone.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Thanks anyways, guess it was a once of thing hopefully.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: it could be. If windows isn't updating drivers or anything, or updating the program for the firewall itself, it shouldn't be changing things. 
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: did you do a "whois Leonhart" - the funny characters in the description may've done something
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: is that the only firewall you have?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Yes, standard windows firewall.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: did Win 7 expire yet
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Xyliz - Win 7 is activated.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: if you mean the support, yeah, support for win7 expired in 2015, but I'm not sure if that's what you meant.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: support expires in 2015, and something else expires in 2017
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: vista expired in april of this year? I'm seeing a lot of hits for similar things though, I'll check it out
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: none of it seems to be related though. If it happens again, Exhale, I'd try going through your firewall settings and your hotspot (tether) settings carefully and making sure there's no conflicts.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale bows deeply.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Soulreset was posting a screed on gossip that was at least 893 characters - if a buffer overflow occured either on the phone side or the pc side, that may've screwed with something (likely not though - extreme coincidence)
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Gossip is OFF.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: you may've visited a website that did something
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Nope, Mush is the only thing thats running for days.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I highly suspect its the mobile network resseting and using another IP that made the problem.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: contemplate whether anything strange or different happened reccently om the phone or pc
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: recently*
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Just the mobile network went into roaming and back to normal state.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: connecting readily to the IRC requires enabling the pc to act as a server, which is a firewall change in some cases (if no IRC activity, nvm)
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: is there a way to put a comment inside a mudclient alias?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: I'd like to comment out a line so I can restore it when needed
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Does Mush portal LVL locks adjust with tiering?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: all day
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: baby
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale bows deeply.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan curtseys gracefully.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: anyone have an updated spellup script (i use winkles) that include priest spells? or is it included and i have to do something and am just dumb
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: check out ww help
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i believe theres a command to add spells
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: what about the recast?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: adding the spell # should make it recast when it wears off
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: ah ok cool
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ugh, restructuring my music server, and can't decide how I want to alphabetize bands leading with "The" (The Beatles, The All-American Rejects, The Lonely Island, etc)... Should I do it without "The", or with "The"? :\
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: always without the The
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lundfu is agreeing with that [Outlaw] Mendaloth person again...
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: With The, A, and so on.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But then you have bands like "The Judds", and so you think, "The Judds" rather than "Judds", and look for it instinctively in "T" :p
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You could do "Judds, The"
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Why are browsing like that, just type Judds :P
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There's no "proper" way to do it, either. :\
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Eh, because I prefer to go through my list instead of searching via search.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Librarians would be my reason for going with the ignoring the/a/an....
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.progarchives.com/bands-alpha.asp?letter=a
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That might help you decide.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: with S&D why do some mobs appear twice (once in a different color) on a cp list?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: is it a room name CP with the same room name in multiple areas?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: this example is "a siren" from Fantasy Fields
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: can anyone tell me how to add portals to my mapper, so that it will use the portal to get to an area?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Have you tried reading 'mapper help' at all?
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: oh. no. so sorry. I shall do that right now.
T3/r7/2017-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I seem to have lost a plugin, I thought it was part of the bast set, that handled weapon switches like you did w1 = 23423421 etc
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreylen Tech: Anyone know how to get the map window if it disappeared? the small room map
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreylen Tech: nvm, somehow the plugin got disabled
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: restart mush?
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I seriously screwed something up recently, and ended up having to do a clean install of mushclient, trying to get everything back to the way I like it is about to drive me to distraction
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: thankfully I was able to at least salvage my aard db, and my aliases and triggers
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: newb here.. can you create a timer from within a trigger? Our does this need to be done in a script
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: Some trigger .. then you something like CreateTrigger(params) etc
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: from a trigger, you can call a script
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: ahh got it
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: then you pick your flavor of scripting language?
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: depending on client.  what do you use to log on to aard?
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: Oh i get what you are saying.. you can put the body of the script within the trigger response (i'm using mush)
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: so you create a trigger.. then click on send to script.. then add the body to the area
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: just read nick's stuff
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: you got it
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: thanks bud :P
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: what is the proper function to send to the world?
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: lemme see if i can find some documentation on functions
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: hmm have a send to script set up.. and did a world.Execute(smile) didn't seem to work.. i'm not understanding something
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: just Execute
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: and ("smile")
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: hmm i wonder if this can be done in the Send box.. or you need a different file..
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: so your send box is for sending crap.. but then you "also" execute an external script
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i think my mistake may be trying to put functions in the send box
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nope.. adding the quotes worked just fine
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I put functions in my send box regularly.
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: ahh.. yep.. pretty new to this.. I write Java microservices on a daily basis but not this :P
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: thanks for your patience while i newb out :P
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: with a trigger, you can type in a slew of (script) functions in the send box, and change output to script.  
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: also, with a trigger you can call other scripts by sending output to execute.
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: also you can do both of above by script, where within a script, you can Execute other scripts.
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: anyone into offsec/pentesting
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: i'm somewhat...
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: what's the question?
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: been getting back into it after a ~10 year hiatus lol
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: no question just curious if there are others here who are into it
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: are you looking to get into reverse engineering or OWASP world?
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: already an expert in reversing and web stuff, I'm more learning about network and os exploitation now
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: I think there's a very tough certification nowadays for pentesters the OSCP
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: it is pretty much all about OS and net exploiting
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: but it's not necessairy if you know how to search for write-up, learn them, take on challenges in vulnhub etc'
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: yeah I was thinking of doing some of the more baseline ones before dedicating time to that... it really does seem pretty intensive. I've joined a couple communities and several folks say to dedicate 90 days with no other real responsibilities for it
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: https://www.cybrary.it/
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: like no vacations, spend every saturday 12-16 hours on labs, etc.
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: is an awesome resource for CISSP type of security topics
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: yeah I signed up for a few things on cybrary and am working through hackthebox, practicalpentestlabs, and vulnhub stuff
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: yup it's one of the most demanding certs in the trade, cybrary.it is nice but don't endulge with their micro-certifications or certifications they are not worth much, well maybe they are worth exactly what you pay for them :D
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: agreed, they are a great resource and I would stop it there
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: CISSP is less relevant for what defines needs
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: CISSP is a great I want to be a manager cert
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: recently promoted from sr. dev / tech lead to architect which means very little coding now, just writing solutions and providing guidance. had to find something to do outside work to keep myself from getting bored and going nuts
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: its not a down in the weeds cert
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: ah thats good to know
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: you hear it a lot, a mile wide and an inch deep
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: oh man defines went the architect route.. good by to coding :P
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: from what I've read it sounds like I might already be able to pass CISSP... lol
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: I know alot of managers with CISSP and most of them are pretty lame when it get's to real practice, but they are able to create a channel of communication with both exec mgmt level and tech people for the most, so it makes a good benchmark for entry level but there's nothing like real world experience imho
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: yeah arch is the road to exec here though. tech lead is sort of the final step for most of the tech org and I will eventually get bored with that so I took the leap
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: its sort of like the CISA, much more focused on Process/management levels/policies, etc
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: + buzzwords
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I don't remember the actual useful pen test certs though since there is always debate
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: that could probably be pretty handy for what I'm having to learn now... how to manage the politics and talk the talk with execs and sales folks. I can do it already to some extent but I have great antipathy for politics and I have to get over that
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: OSCP and OSCE seem to be the highly respected ones.
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: some people think comptia is worth its weight in gold, others believe its too expensive and overrated
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: eh honestly if I see someone list comptia stuff I tend to think "oh great thats all they know"
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: CCNA can be that way as well
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: if you want to manage - do cissp but don't expect to become a manager over night you would probably have to take up Site security officer, or SecOps to begin with, learn the trade, the flows, responses and then move forward, cissp is a great entry level, and a good CV badge, other than that it's easy to spot CISSP robots which lack real knowledge in real world. they easily lose grip because they know very specific definitions and flows, perhaps also the lingo, but underlying technical basic understanding is lacking. you should do CISSP if you master the basiscs beforehand. you don't want to add to CISSP buffer networking 101
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nevela is agreeing with that Kal-Lim person again...
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nevela is agreeing with that Kallaz person again...
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: yeah I dont want to be a "manager" per se but will need some of the same soft skills. My plan with the current CTO is to grow to the lead architect role then start working the business side to prepare me to take over as CTO in a few years. That's my current trajectory anyway, I could very well decide that's not what I want to do during the journey there
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: I don't have any certs, but I also don't have a school diploma or a degree, so don't follow my lead - but real world experience is everything, if you got the sense for it, make your own path
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: real world experience always trumps certs in my opinion... I've hired folks with a laundry list of certs that couldn't really hack it in practice. and vice versa
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nevela nods.
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: but some certs help... our company gets discounts on msdn stuff if we keep at least 3 people on staff with mcse
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I was an Infrastructure Architect for a 35k person company with no certs
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: so they are not necessary, but certainly helpful when you are looking to a new job
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: heh nice. that's a totally different scale than I"m working in. we have about 100 people with 40 developers
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: yup to trigger the mean regex HR recruiters set lol
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: that is really the big thing, understanding what size company you want to work for
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: changes scope of everything quickly
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: there are lots of tradeoffs to different scales
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: went from a role where 20k was a huge deal, to a role where 5M was a normal upgrade
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: infra architect sounds like an awesome job
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: no easier or harder, just very different
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: it is, if you don't like to sleep, and want to work weird hours
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: well for a large global company at least
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: bigger team would give me a lot more time and resources to well architect things and shore up quality but would take away I think from the close, creative nature of our high performance culture
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: don't assume big company means big team
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: right I worked for a 4 person team in a company with 30k employees
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: but if I were in arch lead or cto, that tends to be more of an umbrella
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: it does
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: it also often means you are not hands on doing the stuff, but setting the policies/making the overall decisions
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: which makes it more akin to CISSP without the direct reports
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: cool, by all means, but not always hands on because getting into the weeds becomes a waste of your time
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: thats the transition I'm going through now. sometimes its kinda nice and rewardin to see others pick up the high level solution and cary it to the finish line with only ocassional guidance and check ins
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: but not actually building something hands on will eventually drive me nuts lol hence getting back into offsec
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: yep, and it can quickly
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: plot twist in 3 years I end up taking a professional offsec job instead of following the exec path :3
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: nice part is when a job pays enough, you have a home lab and don't care all that much :)
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: and arch can be that role
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: i can't stand exec path
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: yeah exactly
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: exec path for me always matters on my team
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: when I have a good team I love it
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: when I don't I hate it
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: take care all be on later
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: exec is somewhat on the hook for cultivating a good team :p
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: it is
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: doesnt mean you don't make wrong decisions and get stuck with them for a while:P
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: yeah totally
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: probably why I hate the interview process from both sides
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: as the person interviewing, I never feel like I am getting the right picture. When getting interviewed I have been through too many firedrills and can't not be casual
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: ah really? I love interviews lol. Except when someone puts on an act and convinces me they're someone they aren't. burned by that a couple times
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: I'm pretty casual as an interviewee 
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I feel like most trenches people are
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: yeah, an interview is nothing next to some of the fires I've come through unsinged
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: something about getting called at 3am because a data center outage has a handful of sites down makes a couple people talking to me seem like a nonevent
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: haha yep
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: anyone using cmud here?
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: There's 5 people using cmud according to 'clients'
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i see, i need someone to tell me how to be able to get item from bag by using id numer instead of name
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What's that got to do with cmud?  get itemIDnumber bagname
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not really a cmud thing, you just type get <number> <bag>
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i typed get (xx) bag and it doesnt work on my client side
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no ()
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless you're talking about aarditem serials rather than item ID
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: that aard item
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Did you create an alias named 'get' that is overriding what you're doing?
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you mean aarditem serial, then try ~(12345~)
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno if z/cmud do something special with parenths
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I don't remember, it's been a really long time
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Could turn off parsing temporarily and try it, too.
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: yay thank you
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Anyone have an explatation for why my bigmap is showing in my main screen and how to turn it off? I have already tried messing with the tags.
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: is your map tags turned on?
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you mean minimap?  right click it and unselect output to main
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: that was it
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I was messing with the bigmap tag
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: job. all spellup spam go to miniwin. mush.
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mission impossible
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: oh?
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: its the most annoying thing. or at least in top 3
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you mean your spellups or others?
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: cause other player stuff is in spamreduce
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not that hard of a mission, really...best place to start is an old pre-tags spellup script, since that'll have the spellup and wearoff messages for all of the classic spells
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so then it'd just be a gag and pop it into the miniwin
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: will he be able to scroll the output?
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Annoying but not impossible. Might be easier to watch for affon/affoff tags and put smaller messages
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if he writes the miniwindow to have scrollbars, sure
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: there is also Your magic is blessed with the luck of <some clangod>
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: some spells fill up several lines.. at least true seeing does that
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the affon/affoff messages are good to use for a spellup script, but they don't help with moving the regular message into a miniwindow
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sometimes they're before the spell's message, sometimes they're after, so you can't just do a gag the next line, for example
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: seems tough
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its mission (impossible to get anyone to do it)
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: group buy and everything is possible
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: even the dumbest ideas
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: anyone know how to restore the standard infobar or status bar, or whatever normally has the countdown till next tick on it on bottom of mushclient window
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: I've never had the countdown to next tick in mushclient, only mudlet
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Add the Aardwolf_Tick_Timer plugin?
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I've seen it on a friend's machine, but never mine
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: wierd, I have always had it until I reinstalled recently
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: I wonder if it was a plugin I downloaded eons ago
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: no, it comes with mush
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah newest mush has a couple quirks
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FeralShadow Tech: I am looking for a series of scripts to aid in the UI of Aardwolf.  I found MAG but it seems to be really outdated.  What do most people use?
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i have no idea what you are talking about
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Most people use MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FeralShadow Tech: I see.  I am using Mudlet.  Was looking for script packages that include things such as a persistent minimap and the like
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Comes with a series of scripts, but user interface scripts? Not so sure about what you're looking for.
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Then MUSHclient is what you want to go with.
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FeralShadow Tech: Gotcha, thanks
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Finger Fiendish for the most updated version. He's one of the authors for the Aardwolf MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MAG does have a persistent minimap, but beyond the outdated MAG, you'll have a hard time finding support for Mudlet, it's simply not popular on Aard because of the extensive work done with MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FeralShadow Tech: Interesting, alright.  
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can type "clients" to see how many players are using which clients
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FeralShadow Tech: Ah yes mushclient specifically for aardwolf.  Interesting!
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: is there a way to alias "mapper next" command?
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyblood Tech: Have yo utried normal aliasing it?
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: yeah, dont seems to work :(
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: MUD aliases do not work for client aliases, Reyblood.
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyblood Tech: Oh..
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yes you can alias mapper next.  Set a Mushclient alias, call it "next" or "mnext" or whatever, and change send to to "execute"
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can. Create a new client alias to whatever you want it be. Then in the Send box, put "mapper next", and then the Send to: should be changed from "World" to "Execute"
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: hmmm ok, where should i do those at? "Shift+CTRL+O"?
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Shift+Ctrl+9.
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: shift-control-8
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sorry, yes, 9.
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: geniusssssssssssssssssss thanks Arcidayne & Metria!!! work like a charm!!
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You're welcome.
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FeralShadow Tech: So, I notice that word wrapping is about half my screen right now.  I want to make it about double.  I'm using MUSHclient now, how do I do this?
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FeralShadow Tech: The HELP files and stuff, for instance, wrap at 50% of the output screen width
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: that's because the mud is wrapping help files at 80 width...
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah, those are hard formatted by the mud so they'll work on a 'standard' terminal
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: That is mudside ca,kt be controlled.
T3/r7/2017-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FeralShadow Tech: Aah okay thank you
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: sorry, anyone knows what is the command to reset the UI for MUSH client?
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aisling Tech: No need to apologize. If you mean the windows, try 'resetaard'.
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: oh yeah that's the command im looking for, thanks! but doesn't fix my problem, lol
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: my mapper went missing 
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aisling Tech: S&D window?
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: nope, the map with lots of boxes and colors
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: cant remember what is it called lol
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aisling Tech: Bigmap or Mini map window?
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: i guess its the big map, i do have the ASCII map still
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aisling Tech: Hm. I'm not sure, but try restarting Aard, and if that doesn't help, restart or re-install the plug-in?
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aisling Tech: Worse comes to worse, hope that someone more knowledgeable about the client pops up. :P
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: ok thanks Aisling! i think restarting should work hahaha
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: ah yeah its back after i restart my client
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aisling tosses Leonhart up in the air, he loves it!
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Any one know how to get that option back on DvD drive to close the tray?
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: It can only eject and no close option..
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Press the button on the drive?
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: To far away.
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Move yourself?
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Not going to happen.
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and if you try to access it via explorer, does it not close itself?
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Well can't help without more info.  What program has this "DVD" button you are talking about, what operating system.
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: It doesnt wanna close itself when i double click on it through explorer. Windows 7, before the format and reinstallion of windows, I could close tray in my computer shortcut..
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Like right click DvD, click close tray
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: have you got the up to date drivers
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Let me check.
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: NM its Daemon virtual drive that interfered, thanks =)
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: what's the simplest way to gag/supress certain lines that are being sent repeatedly to my main output window/
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: (I think they are being sent by the mushclient/plugin) not the mud itself, but not 100% sure
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: the line annoying me presently is "Got a bad item, rerequesting inventory data for Inventory
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you cannot gag plugin output
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aisling Tech: Disable that plugin?
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emm Tech: yeah if i could figure out which plugin is causing it
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: use notepad++ to search the plugin directory for the text you are seeing
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Bast's one
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: eqdb.xml
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulreset Tech: what the toast message and ack with features do? im just trying to experiment without messing something up majorly, i have no goals of setting up a bot script. 
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulreset Tech: this is the right channel for those questions right?
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I don't know what you're asking.
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulreset Tech: when your making a trigger and click action two of the options are 'ack with' and 'toast message'. what do those do?
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What client is that?
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulreset Tech: its in the game when i press menu on my tablet
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soulreset Tech: on pc you could probably press esc.
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: maybe check out the help file for your client, whatever it is
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: who has mushclient questions
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo raises his hand.
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Does mush have profiles for the miniwindows settings
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes but not released
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo goes "WHEE!" and dances around Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: not yet?
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also plugins may require modification to be compatible
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mostly they need to save the actual window location and not some intermediate variables
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i have 3 different monitors, mush travels a lot. depends what bot im using.
T3/r7/2017-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: crap. I need to get back to tymme about that mapper backup thing
T3/r7/2017-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antik Tech: Hello, anyone knows how can I create a "SCORE" window on my MUSHClient?
T3/r7/2017-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i believe the aardmush package already has something like that
T3/r7/2017-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: you could start by tweaking the plugin that already shows the info for stats (and exp/trains/gold/health etc)
T3/r7/2017-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antik Tech: It doesn't on my client
T3/r7/2017-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: just make a copy of that plugins file, in case something goes wrong
T3/r7/2017-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antik Tech: but I dont think that windows are plugins because I have 0 plugins installed
T3/r7/2017-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: press CTRL+SHIFT+P
T3/r7/2017-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: did you get your mushclient from the aardwolf webpage or from the mush page?
T3/r7/2017-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I'm sure you have more than that :)
T3/r7/2017-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: Hey Abe!  getting connection refused to your site
T3/r7/2017-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Packmate Daragorn Tech: is there a way to link items to chat so someone can click the item to see its stats 
T3/r7/2017-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: anyone else having trouble with chrome after the latest windows update? just stops working and makes my connection all crappy now
T3/r7/2017-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: anyone know about card readers
T3/r7/2017-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: they ripped off the local atm
T3/r7/2017-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: please
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: why My mini windows appear randomly every time I open mush?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: it seems fine for me... but can always do a "resetaard"
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: I fix them every time I log 
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: why cant they stay where i put them?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: you might want to re-install or something
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: you're not referring to plugins, are you?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: My mush is not installed i run it from a USB flash no not plugins
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: are you changing computers or always playing on the same one?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: s2
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: same one
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: hmmm... idk, then
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: do you save layout on exit whe mush asks for it?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: i assume you tried saving too, Ana?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: yes I did twice also hit the save button on top left
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: i only have one conclusion
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: you have some bad blood with MUSHclient lol
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: ahahahha
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psychodelic Tech: try running localy not from flash drive
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psychodelic Tech: might be a conflict of files when you save the layout
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: how do I specificly save the layout?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psychodelic Tech: organize and save or ctrl-s
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: mhm I tried this one
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: do a trigger or script that everytime you logs in, resetaard lol
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anagantios laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: how to get a trigger to work in cmud?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: get MUSH lol
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: one day
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: just use the trigger editor
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ive made the trigger and i dont see anything that will make it go off
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: how do i create a mudside alias with more than 1 command? i know the semicolon just not how to escape it
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: quite often using double semicolon works ;;
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: however if you are using mushclient - you should rather use client-side aliases
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I use client side aliases that call a few mudside
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: so that I can change certain things from command line
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: note really good idea - because stack interferes with command queue
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: it is like using "gtell" or "spouse" to report some things - sure it works, but is time (latency) is essential then better send content directly to communication log
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: i just bought a 4g USB dongle, and replaced my cellphone tethered method. Why when  I plug the dongle in at the back usb slots it doesnt work but it works infront of PC tower usb slots?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: use a bigger hammer
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lamora Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: usb2/usb3 difference ?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: does anything work in those back usb slots?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: My keyboard is plugged into the rear now, mouse and dongle infront
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: or they provide too low power
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: try the slot with the keyboard. if it doesn't work there, most likely it's a usb 2/3 whatever issue
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: When I press connect it doesnt go pasy Authentication while connected at back
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: so it works, it just does not connect ?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's almost guaranteedly a usb 2 issue. The back ports aren't providing enough voltage to run the HUB
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Yup doesnt connect, but pick the device up.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Which then can't provide enough voltage to said devices
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: then it may be just too much EM noise
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: OK thanks all, I must say the internet is super fast now wow =)
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: If it has an external AC power input, it'll probably work if you connect that
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Was kinda bummed when it didnt work, heh.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: is random disconections common from dongle?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: It lost connection 15 min in >_<
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: none the less, I can get used to this zippy internet.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: if signal is too weak
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale bows deeply.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: you may want to use an external antenna
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: What is that? Like wifi setup?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I suppose your dongle does not have any wires connected to it
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: then it uses some kind of radio communication
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Nod. it looks like a thumb drive.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: sometimes they do have ant connector
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I see, must be the expensive type.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: right, those with price + 1$
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: http://www.instructables.com/id/Huawei-E160X-Vodafone-K3565-3G-dongle-external-a/
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Nods, I hope the disconnections isnt that reacurring, but then its peak hour now and traffic my be loaded.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: that is an example of dongle without antenna connector (or rather with hidden connector)
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Great, That Huawei is a good brand.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: a lot of such devices is quite similar, sometimes just different sticker on it
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Yip. I dont think there are much variations in dongles, like features
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: It just have to do a simple task.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also sometimes you do not have to connect antenna to usb - you just need transfer GSM signal close to device, like this: http://algarve-connect.com/index.php/cables-and-pigtails-shop/3g-gsm-antenna-adapter-for-mobile-phones-usb-sticks-detail
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: anyway, first monitor signal strength - if it drops then you probably want to use antenna (or sit close to window :P)
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I cant see what the strength is atm, but its prolly very good =) if that happens I will have to rearange furniture :P
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: if i write a VBA script for excel will it be dependent on the version im using? basically i wanted to work on something for excel 2010 but i only have access to 2016 atm
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savyor Tech: just a guess, but i would assume those versions would be mostly compatible
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: all Excel VBA macros are backwards compatible
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hi all
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Hello.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Do I need to ctrl + s everytime after I edit triggers, aliases etc? Or does it sasve by itself automaticly.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I will never know because I reflexively hit Ctrl+S in every program where that's an option.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but I think if the program is closed normally you'll be given the option to save changes
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Same.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: nod, It show on closing that message, but im paranoid if PC poer go out before i hit ctrl s
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: It ask every time to save .mcl file upon mush exit.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: That is very rare, since system is put to sleep at a nighly basis.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I dont believe in shut down.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: put to sleep? with UPS ?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Sleep button on Keyboard.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but is that system connected to UPS? or backed up by battery (like notebook) ?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if not then you risk that in case of power outage you will lose data
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Nope. Wanna obtain that someday.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sleep still requires powering memory
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: unless you mean hibernation
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Out of curriousity, how many uptime can you get with UPS?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: depends on UPS
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Nope, not hibernation, just sleep.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I dont see a hibernation option in win 7
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: simple APC SU700INET should keep system for 30 minutes or more
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: thats ample time to save stuff thats running.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however whether you use UPS or not - every 3 year or so batteries require replacement
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: like that notepass++, never use that imho, it corrupts data even with no power cuts
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: nod*
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also UPS not only provides power when there is power outage - it also protects you from not good enough power
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: like too low or too high voltage
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Very good.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for example if your AC is 170V instead of 220V - that system will work much longer than 30 minutes
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: 220 here.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: but I gues if you buy flagship ups brands, you will get more then 30 min
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: much more on notebook compared to desktop
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean - if you have usually 220/230 and then power in outlet drops to 170-180 because of power grid problems 
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: 8nodsa
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually notebooks are designed to use less energy , also you do not have to convert 12V to 220 and then back to 12 
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: The lower your PSU i guess also is a factor
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale is agreeing with that Trachx person again...
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: rather high efficient PSU, like gold ones
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: im running on a 450 and you?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the prior APC UPS here lasted 11 years 6 months without changing batteries -- the UPS failed due to a circuit-board component failure, the battery was okay
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with a new component and a sodering iron maybe the prior UPS may be fixed
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway for home use you just need UPS that is able to provide enough energy for 10-15 minutes, that is enough for power to return or for you to shutdown system safely
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: its OK for running a semi decent GPU,DVD rom, led gaming keyboard and gaming mouse, no power problems yet
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: purchased a newer bigger more modern APC UPS
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: nominal PSU power does not really matter - systems with 2x750 PSU can use 100-150W with low load
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: its cheap also that 750
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I got the 450W with my tower, dont have the need to go 750 atm, prolly need it if i purchase a SSD and bluyray
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "Do I need to ctrl + s everytime after I edit (VI) triggers, aliases etc? Or does it sasve by itself automaticly."  <- nothing saves automatically. It may ask you to save if you've made changes.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not sure how that snuck in
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: SSD uses even less power than HDD
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and bluray? I think last time I used CD/DVD it was when I wanted to install Windows
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale bows before Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale gives Trachx a nod, saying, "OK".
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: nowadays there is not too much use for CD/DVD/BD
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I put a DVD-RW in my PC when I was rebuilding it because I didn't have anything else to keep the dust out.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for example if we order a server system then usually it comes without CD/DVD drive - becaue it supports remote virtual drives
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: When im in battle, get disconnected by bad tethered mobile signal, attempt to log in even when signal is not yer established in windows, i get spammed by mush backupping that says please hold on for 2 seconds, you are in combat
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ooh
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Happend like 3 times Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: thanks for the report. I'll look into it
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: np
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: So you are running on bluray solely??
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Trachx*
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: oh ok, im adept to DvD writer
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I considered once getting BD, but not point to get it as I recorded last DVD several years ago
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Reason why Bluray looks so attractive is the user experience in each move.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale gasps as he realizes what Trachx did.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rivera Tech: Umm, sorry for interrupting but is there a decent free blu-ray software for pc yet?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I take pleasure into recording stuff on DvD's and hoarding it on shelfs.. I feel just getting an extra Hdrive for backuping stuff hanst a visual appeal.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: google free best bluray software for windows
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Not a must, but thats what i ussually do =0 perhaps someone here have one in mind.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rivera Tech: Bad idea, I always download a lot of useless harmful stuff when I google
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Nods, Downloading left and right is not that good, better have a good virus detector on
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rivera Tech: Yeah, thats a really good idea
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im running Avast! Premier Antivirus [2016] 11.1.2245
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: windows stock firewall must be ON at all times =) i dont know if that is so good as 3rd party firewalls, but it do set my mind at ease somewhat
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I got my Wireless Terminal status open at all time, located in controll panel/Network and sharing Centre 24.7 just to peek at the bytes 'send recieved", pared with resource monitor. This anables me to check on connections on the fly and anything that looks suspicious.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rivera . o O ( about hollywood movies* So youre a hacker? ^^ )
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: for example, MUSH is the only thing using internet atm in time, and after 2.08.06 hours it just send 272k bytes and recieved 693k. So when I see a higher number then average i will investigate
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: No not that, stuff like wannacry virus etc
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rivera Tech: How many monitors do you have?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: that updates from random software you have installed like opera min etc, i hate updates being done behind my back
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I have one 24 PC monitor and 42 inch curved TV monitor
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: I like the ones where you can mouse across ALL your screens in one swoop
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rivera Tech: Updates? Didnt know your Pc does updates but my Handy Apps update all the time. Its totally annoying
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale nods at Bogstar.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: I know a guy, has a full circle screen at work, plays riven on it...like a surround screen
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: we Myst not riven
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: i disabled all that annoying winfows updates Rivera, but freshly installed apps without editing it settings do update without your consent >_<
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: I have uninvited updates
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Very cool Bogstar =)
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: hate uninv update
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Hate those Bogstar!
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bogstar :D
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: yup not sure how to shut it up...er off
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: The updates even overwrite your software versions and your setings get lost
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: every time i reboot yeah
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: so a good tip upon installing new software, is to go through its settings patiantly and tweak it
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: bought a used laptop
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: to avoid this scenario
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: used ?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: I can only do one thing at a time so I'm using it until I can afford a new OS
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: then I'll wipe it
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Abit scetchy to buy laptops secondhand
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: nods
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: and scroogle took over my phone for the first time too..
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: arghh
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: "want to take photos and look at them? HI!! We're GOOGLE!!
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bogstar buries her face in her hand and sighs, shaking her head.
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Any way to disable that obnoxious blue blinking LED from dongle without resorting to duck tape?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: open it up and desolder it?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Hehe, my expertize will result into a blow out of grey smoke and a blackened face if i attempt that
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: i did a 6 months Electrical course, but that doesnt mean i can go and disemble stuff
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: its so sticky, sticky as a bee hive from lidness
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyone good with vba for excel? im having an issue that i cant seem to figure out with concating a whole column
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: I messed one of miniwindow in mush that it ended up far up that i cant move it, how to move it back? ive tried resetaard and it did move all other except this one window
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Close mush, delete the state file for that plugin?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's a guess anyway.  Or you could potentially edit the state file to move the window
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: yes how to move it?
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: anyone know how i can shrink a window in mushclient? I can't shift it to the left to be able to access the bottom-right corner
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Try 'aard layout unlock' and then move it
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: still won't let me move it so the left-side of the window is out of screen :(
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: you can tab from option to option if you can't click on things
T3/r7/2017-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: sorted - had to hack the XML
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: My database mapper keeps doing backups even though it's been just a couple hours between backups. What's going on?
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghaan Tech: IT technician: Try to turn it off and on again.
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: I don't know how to do that xD
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralfkayne Tech: $100 for that
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Ah, a true IT technician :)
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghaan Tech: IT technician: Try to turn it off and on again.
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ghaan puts his finger in his mouth and says, "Oopsie! Did I do that?"
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralfkayne Tech: thats about $150 now
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: aardwolf mushclient layout profiles (and other things) are now released. https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: whats a layout profile?
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lets you save different arrangements of miniwindows
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (as long as the plugins are compatible)
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: cool, so you could set one up for your main, one for your alt, one for the laptop.. etc  That's pretty sweet
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: though I'm not sure why you'd want a different layout for main and alt
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: usually people would want it for changing screen sizes
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i dunno, someone might
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: if I ever got mush working on my laptop I'd like it for that.
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralfkayne Tech: how do i make triggers on blowtorch?
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malidectus Tech: what file are your maps stored in? so I can get them all back. New client...i imported alias and plugins..i'm at a loss for the map
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: file is called aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malidectus Tech: tyvm
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malidectus Tech: tyvm
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: how do I stop windows 10 auto updates? its annoying
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: delete it and install windows 7
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: I'm not about to go buy a new os lol 
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: just bought a republican minivan so I can travel incognito :P
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: then you are out of luck maam
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: no joke either
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: whats my nickname
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savyor Tech: pretty sure if you have a .edu email you can still get microsoft (windows) products for free
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: a bunch of people have em today...failurette noegel
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i have 2 .edu emails =/ useless i say
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malidectus Tech: i'm obviously retarded and can't find that file in my old version..which folder/file is it hiding in if anyone knows, and ty
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malidectus Tech: the db file
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: in the muchslient root folder
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: .\mushclient
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malidectus Tech: ah fount it, tyvm for the help
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malidectus Tech: found...
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malidectus Tech: whats the command to get rid of {affoff}156
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: spelltags, I think.
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: tags off
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malidectus Tech: tyvm! its annoying lol
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's not meant for people, it's meant for scripts.
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malidectus Tech: it just appeared when i downloaded the update for the client
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Dunno why, it didn't for me when I updated. Weird.
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malidectus Tech: dunno lol. i may have screwd something up importing alias and plugins
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You don't have to do that.. You just shut down mushclient, download the update installer, and install over your existing directory
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malidectus Tech: hm..tags off didnt work..it said tags off, but i'm still getting the {affoff}
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malidectus Tech: and thank you for the other info lol
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: "tags spellups" is probably the one you want
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malidectus Tech: thanks i'll watch it and see, I appreciate yourhelp
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: metria: transient error or repeats?
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Transient
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: rats
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I restarted mushclient, haven't had any issue since
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Hm, come to think of it.. before I got that, a few minutes earlier I had toggled to the new backups
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The silent ones, I mean.
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that should only affect output though. I'll double check it.
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Thanks, Fiendish. I appreciate your efforts.
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: got a backup from before the error that you could send me?
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Hm, let me look.
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I have one from yesterday, would that be ok?
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: as long as the problem happened today
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yep. Where you want it?
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't care
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: whatever is most convenient for you
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ack. wine has started launching IE instead of my external Firefox when I click hyperlinks
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wonder if I can fix that
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: ack. bad wine! doesn't it intuitively know that firefox is vastly superior? :)
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: change your default browser
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: where?
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malidectus Tech: K)(M)(G)(H) Testament of the <(=Watchmen=)>  [1082878279]  (121)..what gets rid of the 108blah blah number
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malidectus Tech: please and ty
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Uninstall the Inventory Serials plugin
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malidectus Tech: tyvm
T3/r7/2017-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minz Tech: Hey, can someone tell me what language the MUD is written in?
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: I think I may have seriously screwed up my aardwolf after upgrading to the new version.
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: My mapper is refusing to map anything and keeps repeating "I don't know where you are. Try look", and not doing anything when I look
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Anyone know how to map a gamepad for mudding?
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I want to place keypad commands on gaming pad.
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello people
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: Fiendish what was the link for the new mush update. i ignored it and now forgot
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in my finger always
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: doh!!! silly me
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i'll have to try and remember that for next time
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish gives a thumbs-up to Sheriff Shindo.
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: do you often see on mudrammer the game freezing alot? seems like i have to constantly reconnect 
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't. Then again, I don't use mudrammer, so...
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And you're in small company of those who do.
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralfkayne Tech: whats mudrammer?
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: only app i can use on iphone 
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: mushclient no work 
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: anyone know if doAfter can send more than just one command?
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: could use an alias
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: great idea
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yep that works great thanks
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: hey all =D
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: hey silent
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Hi guys! I'm trying to get some of Bast's plugins installed, but when I load one, it tries to do a database backup, and then my Mush crashes. Stat monitor is the one that is breaking in particular. I'm running Mush v4.92, and I believe I have all of the necessary files in the right spots. Any ideas what's going awry?
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: I've tried it probably about five times, so it's not just a one-off issue. But since it's a full crash, there's no error message to help me figure out what's happening.
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Hi
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Hey Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Hi!
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Kya: 4.92 is wicked old. type checkversion please.
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: r1825
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: at least it should be new enough for bast's plugins
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok so did you get any error message?
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or just crashed?
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Weird! I tried another, and it crashed Mush as well. No error, just a crash.
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh I see you said no message already
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Hey sweet Aard tech people
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: would you be willing to try a newer version of the aardwolf mushclient package?
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I have been using Sharptracker and all of a sudden my levels aren't reporting. I have tried reloading it and completely deleted and starting over...I think it is a setting but does anyone have an idea?
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Amya: you have to update sharptracker if you just recently updated the client 
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Would that have any affect on any plugins I use? I've got a few special ones that are critical for me being able to use Mush at all, so if those broke I wouldn't even be able to log on here and tell you it caused an issue.
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I haven't...I tried to upgrade it 2 weeks ago and I lost EVERYTHING...not sure what happened...I had to delete everything and start over :(
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yikes
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Kya: screen reader?
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Yep
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Kya: well, nothing is guaranteed, but if you download my installer and install right on top I think it should be fine. You can make a backup copy of your mushclient folder just in case
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Thanks! I'll make a backup and then give it a go!
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Amya: major bummer
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm sorry that happened
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: it is ok...I had made a copy of my DB about 6 months ago...I pulled that one...but I was  sad
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Amya: were you trying to use the installer?
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Kya: if you use the installer, please quit mushclient first
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: I sure will :)
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I should maybe add that to the download page so people know...
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I was using it from the webiste...I got a prombt when I logged on
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the question is what prompt you got and which version you had before
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there have been a few different ways of updating, and I only settled on the installer somewhat recently
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: past methods have been...mmm...flaky
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Can you make the installer check for running mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's a good question. I don't know.
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I can look into it though. The installer is made with an NSIS script, so if you know anything about NSIS I'd be happy to roll that in
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I am assuming that wasn't for me...i am literally the most computer illiterate person on this mud
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Check_whether_your_application_is_running
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Amya: previous messages were to you, that one was for metria :)
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok good :)
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (installer repo is:  https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage-installer  )
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Fiendish...I deleted something on accident and it went on this downward spiral...at one point I had the 19whatever version
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well 19whatever would be pretty recent
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: but I could never get it back, and my mapper hasn't worked right since. Yes...and I LOVED that version
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I promise that I've only fixed bugs and added new features and released a deadly plague that will soon destroy all of mankind
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: ahh the #killall command
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: LOL...I believe you can do it
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: forget I said that last part
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: losing the DB sucks. the mapper tries to make backups, but even then nothing is guaranteed if you were to lose the harddrive for instance
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: like i did!
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there are a thousand ways to accidentally wreck a file
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: yes...I have to redo all my portals
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that's why i save them on a cloud!
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: everyone should have daily harddrive backups. the best thing that Apple ever did was build TimeMachine into Mac OS
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok...I am going to look into updating it...but not until my kids leave me alone so I can do it right :)
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ping me if you have any questions
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: most programs i save on one of my 2 backup harddrives, i just forgot to link mushclient last time, and im too lazy to set up my github again, and rebuild my dev plugins
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I will...thank you so much
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bogstar flicks Fiendish upside the head while saying +PING!+
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish giggles.
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bogstar :D how do I get win10 to stop trying to sutoupdate?
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: update? :)
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: had the same problem.  stopped using it. installed ubuntu
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: ew no lol it's already trying to run my day
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: had a same problem with son's computer with his win8.  bought him a used computer with win7.
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Windows 10 is the best version they've ever made. I don't think I'd stick with an older one just to avoid updates
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: strong statement, Fiendish :)
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I certainly like 10 over 8, but I enjoyed the simplicity of 7.
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: anyway, this is not really an argument, just an observation :)
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: unless something chances drastically, I don't plan to run my laptop like a phone.
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Thank you so much Fiendish, that resolved everything!! Really appreciate the help :)
T3/r7/2017-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: awesome
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: heat is the number one crash cause
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Anyone here familiar with Hadar's QP tracker? I just installed it, but I can't find any help for it, and now my regular quest commands don't seem to work. I don't want to just remove it if it works properly and I'm just being dumb
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: have you verified your checking account hasn't been hacked?  if he's hijacking your quest commands who knows what else is going on
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: are you trying to be funny endy?
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Lol, he can hack my checking account, there isn't much there :P
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: idk anything about hadar's qp tracker but theres no reason a qp tracker would need to customize the aliases for quest request/quest complete/etc
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Are channels no longer in gmcp?
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Anyone use mudlet here?
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alainna Tech: me
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Know anything about how to capture lines including ansi sequences?
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: (I want to capture text from the mud and display it in a miniwindow with colors intact.)
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alainna Tech: hmm I don't capture ansi in my triggers, and the mudlet manual is mostly for coding for the IRE games
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: nod
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: It seems like Achaea is really big on using Mudlet.
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alainna Tech: are you an IRE player?
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Nope
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alainna Tech: yeah, In Achaea our big curing and system is svo for mudlet
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Oh, you play Achaea?
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alainna Tech: so we all use mudlet there...I do
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Interesting.
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I always meant to start it, but it seemed like scripts were pretty hard to find back then.
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: I suppose this was a couple of years ago.
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alainna Tech: super easy to find now, and svo is free, used to be we had to pay the guy credits for it
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Klotho nods.
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alainna Tech: its way different combat and stuff than here
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klotho Tech: Yep
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anagantios Tech: better?
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alainna Tech: well, PVP is better, I think
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alainna Tech: cause there is no auto fighting
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dakrum Tech: So I don't remember my MUSHclient displaying text with small indentations at the beginning of new lines
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dakrum Tech: Anyway to fix this?
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> output, UNcheck "indent paragraphs"
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dakrum bows before you. 
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyone know why in excel if i enter a large number eg: 46546523132132434567 it changes it to: 46546523132132400000
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylla Tech: My guess would be that it's trying to turn it into a number and it can't hold a number that big...Can you change the cell type to Text or General instead of Number?
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: it is already general, its fine until i hit enter on the cell, then it turns it scientific, then adds the 0
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: excel only has 15-digit precision
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you truly cannot have a number greater than that
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: cool thanks
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is an ENORMOUS pain in the ass when dealing with certain types of serial numbers
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: just decided to learn more about excel and learning with vba
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: bah I need to remove ncaffee from my comp...scans but never fixes anything
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: meh. Macafee is worthless IMO. I just use the microsoft AV software. 
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: it came with the comp and it sucks
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I always uninstall that stuff when I get a new comp.
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes, mcaffee is worthless but microsoft av is also worthless
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I use Avast.
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: hmm. it is? I was told it's gotten a lot better recently.
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: avast free av actually is not bad. It has the same detection rate as AVG bit lot less system load
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i have avira
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I couldn't stand AVG's system bloatage. ugh.
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda is agreeing with that Byrnatha person again...
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: "here we'll keep hackers out! by filling your hd with useless info!"
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Byrnatha falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Byrnatha is agreeing with that Azerina the Sage person again...
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Byrnatha is agreeing with that Azurite person again...
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: sorry, misdirected social there. heh.
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: I liked it :D
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: how is the learning curve for cassandra? and under what circumstances would it be more viable to use?
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello everyone
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Hey
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: hey Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: any mushclient questions?
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: yes, how can I add gqs to S&D
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no idea about S&D. I don't use it
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: can you send me yours instead =)
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: he has 15 gq wins, i doubt he has "his own"
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mohan rolls on the floor laughing at Endymion's antics!
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: half of them are from before time began
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: or any undetectable bot to run while I am doing homework, because wife is working and need to do lots of things
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I have a really good undetectable bot that sits 2s of recall and goes 'meep' every 6 hours
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: damn too long, the mud can disconect me while the time pass
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: use a keepalive?
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: I have questions, but actually I can't ask them, maybe next timext time Fiendsh, thanks a lot
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: otay
T3/r7/2017-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: how to reset the campaign mob  window ww's plugin
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: hi ... I haven't login for many months now. Recently I logged in and found my BAST SPELLUP plugin is not working. It can detect spells have expired but won't cast them.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: anyone else has this problem? The spells are always on pause.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: have you tried bsp resume
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: I cannot unpause them. I have to cast them manually. 
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: tried that ... does nothing.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: oh wait .. what do you know .. I just tried it and it works!!
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sheriff Shindo cheers and sings... he is just BURSTING with joy!
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: damn .. I was sure I did the resume thing!! and it didn't. Guess must have been one of the combination of sequences.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: thanks Shindo for kicking my butt!! :)
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes, voodoo for sure
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: scripts are like that, so unpredictable
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: sigh .. it is not working again. Nevermind .. I will troubleshoot it further .. or maybe wait it out.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: if you type plugins does it list them all and show the version of bast you are running?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: do you have spellup tags on?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: yes it does
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: bast_spellup                  2094  bsp       false   true      2818   
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: umm i think 2097 is the latest version
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: ooo.... 
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: I will go look for it and upgrade.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: finger bast for all his url's
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: are you saying that old versions didnt work?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i  remember reading a note from fiendish saying something he worked on made some things "break" and he and bast worked on fixing it
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that's so fiendish!
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I think that was actually S&D - from mapper DB were removed field date_added or something like that
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: bast didnt make s&d!
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: and fiendish didnt fix it, he stopped at breaking it
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: no it was quite recent BUT yes that S&D issue also has been worked around
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: Fiendish was not using that field, Winklewinkle was using (and modifying field in Fiendish's gmcp mapper) - so Fiendhis could just leave that field as it was
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hush you, that field was causing major red ass
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: was so
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: main problem with mush plugins and their files (state, databases) is that they are not private / isolated
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: my mapper db is so much tidier, and noticably faster now that the field has been rightfully removed.  it compacts much better and saves tons of hard drive space
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: so other plugin (like S&D) can access database of GMCP mapper - nothing wrong with that though
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if fiendish saw what i did to my local database, he would shart himself
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: hey .. what do you know .. So I quit to make a backup of the current mushclient direcctory .. 
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: then I login again thinking to disable the plugin ... but when I login .. the spells fired off automatically.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: let's hope it stays that way.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: son of a bean
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: I didn't do anything at all ... think the script has decided to shit with my head today.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: I updated to the latest Aard client package last night. I'm very happy that I did except for one small thing. It's gagging a line of text that most people probably didn't really like, but for some reason I did. After you do xcp it used to show "You may take a campaign at this level" or "You will have to level to take another campaign." Is there a simple way that I can stop that line from being gagged?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Star Wars Tech: are you sure the new version of aardmush gagged it or could it be an external plugins?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Star Wars Tech: plugin*
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: The only plugins I installed after updating were Sharptracker and Stat Monitor. I just uninstalled them both to see, and the line is still gagged.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: .. sigh .. nope .. the latest bast also didn't work. Maybe because I am using an old mushclient .. Looks like I have to try to upgrade everything.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Oh, I didn't realize that some other plugins got installed, found out through trial and error what's gagging that line is Bast's CP_Broadcast. My apologies.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: hi guys .. just to confirm .. we should use the MUSHclient package meant for aardwolf right? Should not use the latest version 5 generic MUSHclient right?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: cos I couldn't get the mapper in the generic mushclient v5 to work for aardwolf.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: you are probably missing some plugins
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: so use the aardwolf package instead, you are guaranteed to have everything you need.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: yup .. thanks Anaristos... that was what I tot.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello all
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: anyone know about this mushclient mapper?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: do you have a question related to the mapper
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Say your question and people will get back with you.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: i went over the cexits to make sure they were correct and they were but when i do mapper area and then mapper next the speedwalks get messed up
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Are you using S&D?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: whats S&D?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WordWarrior Tech: he's just switched to mushclient
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: i just got mushclient and mapper yesterday
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: are you sure you have the whole area mapped?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: and what do you mean it fails? what kind of error? does it get you to a random room? doesn't it find a way? 
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: well i get most rooms mapped so like 90+%
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: no itll say cant go that way or theres no door here
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: and ill end up in a random room
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: have you mapped the rooms yourself?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: i walked the rooms and put my own cexits in
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: ok, lets do a simple test: rt verume, do 'mapper area verume', and mapper next, mapper next, etc.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: see if it move around in rooms with verume in their name
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: if that works, the mapper's fine, and there might be issues with the actual maps
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: do you have portals set in the mapper?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: type: mapper portals, see what it lists
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: i just got it yesterday, i dont have portals yet
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: ok, so you started with an empty mapper (well, with the default maps)
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: does it work in verume? (a rather simple area)
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: is there a way to delete the maps and just start over, ill walk everything again
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: it is, but let us figure out the problem first, otherwise you might hit them again
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: yes its walking the rooms and ocasionally speedwalking a few rooms away
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: ok. not lets move to an area where you encountered fails
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: tell me the area/room (or room number), and what you search
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: dortmund
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: that's a more complicated area. a single unmapped cexit might break all your speedwalks
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: ok. what do you search?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: a secret room
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: i dont think i mapped the whole area eventhought its showing on did on the mapper
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: which one fails? the first next?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: the first time you type 'mapper next'?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: in my case, the speedwalk is run 2wnen; enter latrine; run d2s4e; north
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: but I have permanent passdoor, as shadow. what is your speedwalk?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: whats the syntax to see the path without having to run it?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: mapper where roomid
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: but I typed next, it shows the commands before executing them
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: type next, check the commands sent to the mud
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: anyway, since you don't have passdoor, it's not enough to map the mud custom exits (those listed as 'other')
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: you need to map as a cexit any door that needs to be opened, for example
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: mush is so aliene to me how do i tell you my path without actually running it lol
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: when you type: 'mapper next', the first lines below the command will be those sent to the mud
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: just pageup until you see your command
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: you can also do mapper where (room number)
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: did you mapped the open door commands?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: i did that but i cant sent it through the channel because i run it lol
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: i mapped all the open door commands
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: you need to copy and paste it
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Angel Castiel Tech: Double up the ;'s
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: ah yeah double ;s
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: copypaste it, and either use double ;, or put a ; as the first caracter on the line
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: and delete all the newlines :)
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: this is my path 'run 2w;op n;n;run e;open n;enter latrine;run d2s4e;op n;n'
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: well, I'm not sure about it, but I see an 'open n' without a corresponding 'n', which means one room is skipped
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: that stuck out for me as well
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: so I think a cexit is broken there
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: probably need to get back to that room and fix the cexit
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: as a general rule: when entering a cexit, wait for it, before moving, so it either fails, if set wrong, or succedes, if all is good
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: and always use double ; in cexits
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I think that's what you did wrong. you typed 'mapper cexit open n;n' (single ;)
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QuickBen Tech: crap Id idn't know you were supposed to use double semicolon in cexits.  Might explain why some of my door cexits seem borked.  Thanks for the headsup
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: the cexit recorded was 'open n', even though the second 'n' was executed
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: the cexit succeded (since you moved to the other room), but it was broken :)
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: let me try again
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: gonna do all my cexits for that path again
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: you can delete cexit by right click on the room
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: or edit them
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: i have to delete and fix it i cant just over ride it but doing it the right way?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: so, problem identified :) now you can either fix the cexits, or remap the areas (if too many cexits there). to delete a whole area: mapper purgezone area (where area is the short name, as listed in 'mapper areas')
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: it doesn't know that is an override, and will add a second cexit. that will lead to fails
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: you can just add a new one but the old one will still be there and mapper might select it unless you either delete or change it directly
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: either delete/add, or edit
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: wow i got a few like that i might as well purge all the areas and redo them
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: thats a lot of work
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: both are a lot of work. the good news is you only have to set them right once
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Angel Castiel Tech: I wouldn't purge 'all' areas, just the problem ones. Remapping the continents would be a pain
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: it's not so bad when you get the hang of it. making aliases to speed things up helps too... I have an "md" alias that takes a direction and will cexit open <dir>;;run <dir>
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: and yeah once you have them setup correctly you almost never need to change them. once you have good cexits setup throughout an area, you can use mapper in it without hassle
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: i mapped like 10 areas, ill just redo them because they all have an issue somewheres because i rushed them
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: lol remapping didnt work
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: have you used a double semicolon for all cexits with multiple commands?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QuickBen Tech: Toneloc post that revised, mapped speedwalk again
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I had to use ;;;; to get mine to work for some reason.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: ok gimme a sec
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QuickBen Tech: sure
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: with me often cexits do not 'take' because my connection is rubbish and your char has to move within 2 seconds, so it says Cexit failed it leads to the same room you are in, or something similar
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QuickBen Tech: I did not know that either.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: sometimes have to do it 20 times before it 'takes'
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: crap whats the syntax to see speed walks again?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: you can raise the timeout for the next cexit, if you expect a longer duration (either because of the cexit content, or because of lags)
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: mapper where <room#>
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: ohhhh really?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: mapper cexit_wait 10
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: will wait 10 second before deciding if the cexit failed
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: thanks Liber, writing this down, get so frustrated with the lag at times
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: just remember not to move during that time :)
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: because the cexit will save the last room
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: run 2w;op n;run e;op n;enter latrine;run d2s4e;op n
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QuickBen Tech: that path is definitely borked
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: obviously its not taking the direction i have to walk
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: open north and run east?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: QuickBen nods at Liber.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: open north, run east
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: check the cexit in the room 2w from entry
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: that one is broken
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QuickBen Tech: run 2w;op n;run 2n; op e; run e;
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QuickBen Tech: should put you in the latrine room from start
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: idk why its not taking the direction i need to do when i make my cexits
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: go*
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QuickBen Tech: is each door open it's own cexit?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: 'mapper cexit open north;;north', then wait for the ok message
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: example for a cexit i type mapper cexit op n;;n
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: i always wait for the ok message
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: check it in the room 2w
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: or whatever was the direction there
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: how does anyone ever get thier mapper to work 100% with problems like this?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: there is never 100%, but keep maintaining it and it will serve you well
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: the problem is the ;
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: nice trick with the cexit delay, thanks Liber, this will improve my life greatly
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Liber gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: its only registering the open door, after that im executing the next command instead of inputting it into the mapper
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: that's where the double semicolon should work
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: so im moving n
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: nah its still executing
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: if that doesn't work, try that turie suggested, and use four of them? :)
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: yea im gonna try that
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: omg i think that worked
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: omg it worked, turie youre awesome
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello all. mushclient questions answered here.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: is there an easy way to make a log file with a command in mush?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: a log file for a what?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: a log file for a what?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (oops)
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: anything that passes from my screen after I started it?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: so what you want, is an alias that starts a log file, perhaps with the name of the log file passed ot the alias, and an alias to turn off logging laterr?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: you'd expect a client to have it built-in but I could not find anything about such.. 
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is there a particular thing that you want to log?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: nope.. I sometimes want to log like, a big group run to review later or gquests notes etc.. all manually started is good enough
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well I think we can get you there
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: first I'm going to search the mushclient forum
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: see if there's already a link for it
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ctrl-shift-j will allow you to log session history
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but it doesnt seem to start and then stop, just history
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: yeah.. that could be useful if you forgot to start your log though
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh actually, it keeps logging
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but can start with x # of history lines
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: checking
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: when you do that, file > log session (same as ctrl shift j), then you put a file name to it, then it keeps logging.  until you do that (file > log session) again.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: hah, now I found out I actually tried that log thing before but I thought it only logged history and stopped.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: thanks for the help.. 
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oops sorry for vanishing
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: had to go deal with something
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: it's ok.. I found help
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish gives a thumbs-up to Matanay Soulstealer.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: ticks are roughly like 30 seconds or so?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: seems like some times a little more or a little less
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: but about that
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyblood Tech: how to check my ping?
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no way thru mud or mushclient
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: theres a plugin out there that will run external command then read results into mush, but no direct method
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: best bet is to use cmd.exe in windows to ping aardwolf.net
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: ok I have a mushclient alias question
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: I'm trying to make an alias that will let me do something similar to 'ce north' and it send the line to set a cexit in the aardwolf mapper. I want to be able to have it grab the direction from the line I send, so it'd need to have a wildcard somewhere. I have one that I did off of the documentation for mush i found online, but I'm getting a compile error and I don't know why
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shavrendil Tech: Set alias text to 'ce *', body to something like 'mapper cexit north' and change 'send to' to execute.
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: "ce (*)" then "mapper cexit %1"
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shavrendil Tech: Sorry, body 'mapper cexit %1' of course...
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: got it, thanks!!
T3/r7/2017-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: could also do this for doors: "coe (*)" "mapper cexit open %1;;;;%1"
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: any docker experts here?
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: https://forums.rancher.com/t/routing-containers-through-a-different-gateway/6989?u=xeryax
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Is there such a thing (windows software), that give you the tools to cut pieces 'out' of vids like mp4,avi etc. and/or joining numerous vids together?
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I mean that just sounds like standard video editing
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Matanay Soulstealer Tech: probably more than you can count.. 
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savyor Tech: i was gonna say google video editing software
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale bows deeply.
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Is USB tv tuner cards for PC able to record live feed? And is the quality good?
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm now readily able to reproduce at least one manifestation of the new mapper commit transaction bug, but I still can't reproduce the comm log position bug
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: i tried to update my MUSHclient but it says there's an error opening dina.fon, i checked it's there and installed
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: any idea how to fix it?
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do you have the exact error message?
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: error loading the font is a bit unusual and could be an underlying system issue not related to mushclient
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: it says "Error opening file for writing: C:\Users\leon\Desktop\Aard\Dina.fon   Click Retry to try again, or Cancel to stop the installation
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for writing?
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: huh. was that error from the installer?
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: yeah the error was from the installer
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: did you close mushclient before trying to install the new one?
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: yeap i did :)
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you might need to reboot. It sounds like something, maybe Windows, didn't release the file lock
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Windows isn't very good at letting you overwrite something that a program is reading from
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: oooo
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: ok i shall try, thanks for the suggestion!!
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's also possible that an antivirus program had it open at the wrong time
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (this is one of the reasons that installers often suggest temporarily pausing antivirus during installations)
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in which case possibly just trying the installer again would work
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: genius! thanks Fiendish! totally fixed the issue
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: lol i closed my MUSH but apparently its still running in the Process
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what version were you using before?
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: i cant remember lol how do i check? sorry, noob in this
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: ah now im using 5.06
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: 5.06-pre
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no way to check now. don't worry about it :)
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'll probably be releasing another update soon. some people have identified a couple of weird bugs that I'm trying to pin donw
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: down
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: ooooooooooo you're the creator of MUSH?!
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no, just the aardwolf package
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: i see!! really appreciate your effort Fiendish! made our life a lot easier with your effort, thanks man
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient.exe is made by a guy named Nick Gammon
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: is MUSH only for Aardwolf? or its for all MUD?
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient is for any telnet server, not only MUDs.
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: all the aardwolf plugins are made specifically for aardwolf and won't work on other muds without a lot of modification
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: ahhhhh i see! and trust me its beautiful! very user friendly and the UI is perfect
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: my mapper UI went missing frequently on my previous version, is this one of your fix?
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: went missing? lol
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: define missing
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: are you in the habit of typing 'mapper hide'?
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe changing monitors?
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: erm no, i dont know about that command lol
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: but it fixed itself everytime i restart my client
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it depends on which version you had previously
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if it's the miniwindows turning black bug, then yes that should be fixed
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if it's a different cause, then I need more details
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess let me know if it keeps happening ^_^
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: sure thanks!! appreciate your help Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: please dont quit in any way LOL i will die without you :D:D
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but like, just so you know, I was planning on quitting really soon, but since you asked I won't
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Thanks Leonhart
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also this mapper transaction commit bug is melting my head. I don't think it should be possible.
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: o_O Bamboo, did i missed something? what have i done to deserve the "Thanks"?
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: For making Fiendish stay
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: hehehehehe its like deity, we need them! XD
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: a social between a man and another man should stay private, thank you
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh im sorry it was a public comment, please disregard
T3/r7/2017-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: my apologies, too excited to meet the creator of aard package
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: My stats tracker window for mushclient disappeared and I don't know where it went. "resetaard" doesn't give it to me either
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: hi guys, stat bar suddenly disappeared from mush, do I reinstall it? and if so what is the name of it
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i find when that happens that i just need to start the cleint again, if it started the day that way
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: {chan ch=ftalk}(Friend) Princess Aliphant: 'I was clicking on the main window and accidentally hit a key combination that must've caused it to disappear'
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: there should be a combo to bring it back then?
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that doesn't sound like the issue i have, so i can't help
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: No worries, thanks for trying
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BossyBoots Audra Tech: thanks Shin
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: after updating the latest MUSH, everytime i startup MUSH, my UI is in a mess
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: i need to resetaard everytime i logs in, am i the only one getting this problem?
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: hi can somebody please give me a link to the latest aardwolf version thanks.
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: finger fiendish for the link
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: try fingering Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: havent fingered anyone in a while... thanks!
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I dunno, try asking on gos?
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Don't worry, I'm sure Fiendish will appreciate it too! :P
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: r1825 works just fine.
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: i hate some random update moron telling me i have to update mush,,, id slap  him with a chicken if i could...
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: mapper addnote is awesome.
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: yes it is
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: too bad I don't have a way to search the notes (at least my version of the client/mapper)
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyblood Tech: why every time i close MUSHclient there is an warning that a file has been modified?
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Because it has been.
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamfsob Tech: is there a way to run Mudclient with Ubuntu?
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah, use WINE.
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: WINE
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I'm drinking wine now
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamfsob Tech: thanks !
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: use WINE and telnet, with enough WINE you won't notice the difference.
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: is anyone familiar with blowtorch, and to how to get plugins running?
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: You can do plugins with blowtorch?
T3/r7/2017-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: theres a chat window i used to have and now it cant find the file.. but yes some
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: is there a sound plugin for the latest mushclient? if so could anyone please provide me with a link?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: should be on aardwolf.com
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: or .org been a while ill check
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: aardwolf.org its on the hope page
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: notice  clicking on aardwolf home link takes you to the .com heh
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: thanks. if the triggers doesnt give sound on the new mushclients is there a setting that should be change in order to get a trigger sound playing?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: i think it still plays wav files only ive been away for a year couold have changed :p
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: so in your edit trigger diallouge box there is a place in there  torwards bottow right near middle that says  sound you can add a .wav fie to play
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: i have a sound.wave insirted but somehow it doesnt play..
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreylen Tech: even when you test it?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: is the trigger in regex?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: aah,, mushclient has a seperate volume control lol.. figures.. FML
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: thanks for the help!
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: didnt know mush had a seperate vol control :p
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Is there a way to export mapper from one MUSHclient to another?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: copy/pase the db file
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Righto. Where's that found in?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: usually in.\mushclient
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Found it - thanks a bunch
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: is the file called Aardwolf.db in the base mushclient directory BUT it can also be whatever the "Session" name is that you use
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: I want to do a fresh install of Aardwolf and export three things over - my aliases/triggers/variables, my mapper information and my plugins
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: I've figured out how to do 1 and 3, now I know how to do too
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: thanks again guys
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it is safest to copy it when mush is closed
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Of course 
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: for this reason (complications changing the client) I'd suggest using server-side aliases wherever they can cover the task (for example, single command aliases or aliases that don't take a parameter)
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: also, I wouldn't use any aliases in cexits, and a single client-side alias for portals
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Liber, that's what I try to do as well. My MUDSide aliases are things that involve "mapper goto" commands (for navigating vidblain
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: yes, those are nice
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: My portal alias takes in a parameter (what portal you're using), so I have it MUDside
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: And my attack spam aliases :3
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Which are tied to a variable called attack_skill that I modify whenever I level up into a new skill
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: the portal alias is actually one I implemented client-side, since it takes a parameter and has multiple commands. by MUDside, you mean on server, or on client?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Whoopsies, I mean client.
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: My client aliases are those that require use of a variable (like ortal_bag or ttack_skill), my MUDside aliases are everything else(eg. qc = quest complete)
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: also, for vidblain, you have 2 good options. 1 is a trivia portal to vidblain (expensive, but you solve the problem forever). 2. map extender (either on it's own, or part of s&d) includes vidblain assistance
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Why not a trivia portal to sendhia?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: sorry, I meant sendhia
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: I'm going down the sendhia route :3
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: a portal to sendhia would mean all areas there are accessible by mapper goto
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Right
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Is there a command to lock all my miniwindows in place so they can't be moved?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: aard layout lock / aard layout unlock
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Ah, thank you
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xcalibre Tech: where can i learn more about the technical implementation of aardwolf?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: hello, woud you like to learn more about our lord and savior Jesus Christ?  (duck)
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i dont know that there is a lot more tech explained in places other than the website, which focuses on the history of migrating to our custom code base.
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xcalibre Tech: ah ok looks like ive got to dig around a bit more. i havent been here for a long time but i dreamt about it last night so i go back in. i remembered building an area using Lua script. thats all what i remembered
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you won't find details about the implementation of aardwolf, but you can find details about how to implement areas
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: http://bash.org/?962213
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: r1930 is out
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Does it, you know
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hopefully it fixes the new mapper commit transaction bug
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also it has layout saving
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: aard layout help
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo jumps high into the air shouting out, "WOOHOO!"
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: wow
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinetease Penthesilea Tech: safe for us to use as well?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal reins his horse next to Long Time Fiendish and salutes him with his lance.
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: layout saving will only work with compatible plugins. report any incompatible plugins to their respective maintainers
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: thanks for the rapid turn over Fiendish, your hard work is appreciated
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hwuai: mapper backups quiet official in 1927
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: nod. gonna switch after my daily routine:)
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: really anyone who had updated to 1927 should update to 1930
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the mapper transaction bug was annoying
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: actually let me see...was it 1927?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah it was
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: at least it was only a few days
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I still have not reproduced the communication log position bug 
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not sure what's up with that
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyone else see it happen?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glaine Tech: Question about Mush Client. When I first opened it it would open auto. Now, it wont do that.Any reason why?
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glaine Tech: to Aard..that is
T3/r7/2017-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glaine Tech: Answered me own question.
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Ive shot myself in the foot twise this week, I bought some cheap gaming controller that ultimally sucks because the keys stuck and are clunky, also a headphones that lost halve its bass/sound in two days.. Never buy cheap stuff that look legit...
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: there is a spot where cheap is too cheap..
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Its better to buy known brands imo. Lesson learned 
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I honestly just buy trusted electronics
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I cheap out on a lot of stuff, but not my technology
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Ontuct - Some indian store that sells chinsese goods...
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hugotski -( Done the same when I was young 
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale rapidly nods twice at No Offense Cheezburger, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: if i view it as throw away item i might go cheap, else I aim for middle of road.
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: $30-40 ear buds not $9.99 not $99.99
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I aim for the $60 range for headphones
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Ive bought some dodgy cellphone battery from that store for my android device, it works like a charm, so i guess why not and try out the headphones/gaming pad, big mistake..
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: top of the line is far too expensive, yeah go for the secound newest stuff
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: good range Cheez, you can get a decent pair of Sony headphones at that range.
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I usually do Razer, but yeah
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Mid range after you did some research on google reviews, its a good gamble
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: obligatory xckd: https://xkcd.com/1036/
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: i have made gambles on cheap stuff and really lied the item, then you try to find another and cant
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I find reddit and tomshardware sites reliable for such reviews.
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im so disgusted with those 2 items I bought, ive thrown them in the bin.
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: The slip I got fro that purchase showd, no garruntee, no cash refund, that must have been my first clue >_<
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: There is a fine line for when you over pay on premium goods and abit cheaper (same perfomance) goods. you just have to do research first
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Impulsive buying is never good, doh.
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: anyone. familiar with the commands to use auto hunt?
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the hunt command and the move commands
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: isn't it literally just "autohunt [target]"?
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: ah target, 'ah abort' to stop
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but how to use autohunt itself depends on what plugin you use
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: ahh, ah not autohunt
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: tried it.. 
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It would help to tell us which autohunt plugin :P
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: There's several of them
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: its from blockda its for blowtorch.. no instructions :/
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: then the above might not apply
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the plugin might not work at all. If it has not been made for aard
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The source code for people wondering: https://github.com/blockda/aardwolf_plugins/blob/master/src/autohunt.xml
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it's for aard
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: And according to that source code: it should be "ah target"
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: with no way to abort prematurely
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: ooh thank you , yea had to look thru the soirce code 
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: A friend is using mushclient, latest release. Comm log doesn't show remote socials, mine does. I can't find a setting for remote socials, anyone have any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You have Mendaloth's Rsocial plugin.
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: your friend doesn't.
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Aha, thank you
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: One day, we can hope that rsocial will see gmcp.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: need some help:
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I have a HDD with a Windows 7 install I can no longer boot into, but I need to access files that were on the desktop. I took ownership of the Documents & Settings folder, but it has brand new files in there now. like desktop files from my Windows 10 install. where are the Windows 7 desktop files?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: aren't they in c:\users\username\desktop ?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Automator Tech: you installed 10 over 7 or are there 2 drives?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Windows 10 is on a different drive
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Automator Tech: should be able to boot to 10 and install 2nd drive as 
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: is there an windows.old folder?  if so look in there  you may get luckey
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Automator Tech: "D:" or whatever the next drive letter it gets assigned
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: the directory tree of the old hdd, if it wasn't booted into, would still be the same, just with a different drive letter
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the entire file system is still there, it was bootable until I replaced the motherboard
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Automator Tech: yeah just navigate to D:\users\<username>\desktop 
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah sorry when i said c: i meant old c:.  please adjust accordingly
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: okay, I thought it was Documents & Settings and the username is the same as the one I use in Win10 and it had brand new everything :p
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: changing permissions is taking a while which is probably a good sign
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: did you have some sort of ahci vs ata issue on boot?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: dont see why it wouldnt boot with new mb
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: corrupted mbr?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no idea, it went into a boot loop and wanted a disc to do startup repair so I gave up on booting into Win7
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Automator Tech: do note.. both HD's have to be in the same PC connected to the same motherboard
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Automator Tech: yoscan
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: we're good, I got the folder I needed. was just looking in the wrong spot. thanks bros.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Automator Tech: np bra
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: time sensitive file needing and had a minor panic attack when the folder I thought it was in was empty
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: couldn't find your finish file huh
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Automator Tech: never fun loosing files. At least you didnt have to run a drive recovery
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded is agreeing with that Endymion person again...
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I does an image save every week, it does wonders for lost kitten.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: a disc image can be treated as a virtual drive so restoring from an image is just a matter of copying from A to B
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: it takes about 30 minutes to do 300 Gb. You could save an image every night.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: put it on a usb hd.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I could. my case has an external SATA port.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: that would work
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I keep most stuff backed up but for some reason not this. backing it up to a third drive now :p
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: one day i will regret not doing back ups
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: what's sweet is that you can mount the image and use the data on it if you like.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: today is not that day
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded misses the 'v' and wabes.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: what  I would love to do is to get about 10 Tb of cloud space and do the image save there :)
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: sounds great until a data breach
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: my drive is encrypted, so the cloud would also be encrypted.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I realize that that is not a 100% guarantee :)
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: that's a bad way to image a drive (since imaging an encrypted drive by outside that filesystem means imaging the unused sectors as well)
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: you're better off with an encrypted image (some apps have that option)
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: the drive is encrypted and so is the image. The image is encrypted because the usb hd is encrypted.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: for a cloud, the data is imaged so the encryption is automatic.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: so the encryption on the usb hd is not the same as what's how it is on the actual hd.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: same method, different key.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: you didn't get my referrence to unused sectors then
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: lets assume you have an 1TB drive, you just installed windows on it, encrypted partition
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I did, when the drive is first encrypted all the unused sectors are encrypted once.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: if you image it from a tool inside that filesystem, you'll get a 10-20 gb image
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: it takes about 24 hours to encrypt a 1 Tb drive.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: if you image it from a tool that doesn't take into account the filesystem, you're looking at an 1TB image :)
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: that is correct, but that is not my problem :) I use bitlocker.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I have a 1 TB drive and I am using about 230 Gb atm. That is the size of the image.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: if you're imaging a bitlocker drive from windows, it completely bypasses the bitlocker part
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: which is a good thing :)
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: and be prepared that noone buys it
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: it's not for sale :>
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: is there a way to set a variable in mushclient via command line?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Make an alias for it, maybe? I am not good enough to be confident of that :)
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I am looking for that same problem. Setting a mudside or clientside alias doesn't seemed to get parsed if its midline on another alias
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: if it makes up the entire line (single command) it works great, but as a general variable I haven't gotten it to work
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: a client-side alias could never be called by a mud-side alias, so that part fails
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: the reverse is possible. it actually works quite well
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: you don't need to use separators in aliases, so you shouldn't have it middle line
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: simply put every command on a new line
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: mine was trying for an alias to change mana_pot and heal_pot
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: so that I could always get mana_pot from bag....
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I don't understand why would you need a clientside alias for that
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: simply do a mudside alias, update it if needed (at 50 levels or so for mana)
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: just how I tried it first, Is there a way to get a multi-line alias mudside?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: yes. what client are you using? mush?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: try: alias hl get <pot> <bag>;;quaff <pot>
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: replace the names, and use two semicolons
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: lol yeah I just did that after you said its possible
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: it works, I am dumb
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: and thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: you're welcome
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: my cat turned on some sort of click when I type in win10 how do i disable it?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: cat turned it on laying on keyboard, I cant figure out how to shut it of using google
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: hold down right shift key for 8-10 seconds
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: cats and kids, teaching people keyboard commands since the dawn of keyboards
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: not only did it give a sound, but it wuld only allow you to backspace once per keypress.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: yeah, I think you have either filter keys orsticky keys turned on. check in control panel under ease of access.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I stepped away for 2 mins I came back she was stretched out across the laptop watching netflix
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kishoto Tech: smart kat
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: watching anything good?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: in all fairness she just unpaused it
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: she was watching Archer
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kishoto Tech: pleas gossip on the goss channel thank you...
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blueberry Tech: imagine your cat typing on curse channel
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tearlach shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: What's blowtorch's escape key?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: so i keep getting this, any ideas? https://pastebin.com/D64dfcqn
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you use most recent mush ?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: yeah i just downloaded the newest one
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: version 1927, si that right? 
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: problem is that you have records that violate index integrity rules
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: that sounds serious.....and i have no idea waht that means. 
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: r1930
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: oh. okay then lets try updating. 
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: is there a command that pulls up the automatic update check
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe it will fix: - bug fix: A poorly chosen variable name in aard_requirements.lua was very likely to conflict with anything else using a database. This caused transaction errors in the GMCP mapper and possibly other plugins.
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: when I open the client it doesn't tell me I need to update. is there a way to trigger that? 
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try: package update check
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: that worked 
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway your problem is: UNIQUE constraint failed: areas.uid
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that means either you have extra rows in areas table or there was introduced new constaint
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I hate myself for actually writing a Monte Carlo smulation using https://github.com/samshadwell/TrumpScript
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it yuge?
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's not like his hands, that's for sure
T3/r7/2017-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Bigly
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: is there an updated version of statmn?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the bast version is upto 2097, was the latest he did
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you can see the version numbers if you type plugins
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: how do i add notes to rooms again?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: mapper addnote stuffgoeshere
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: or right click on the room in the mapper window
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: hi guys.. could anyone please send me a link of where i can download statmonitor?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Finger Fiendish - his web address has a client package that should include all the default plugins that come packaged with MUSH, including statmon
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: wonderfull thanks ali!
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: whats the command to pull the help files for s&d on mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: ww, iirc
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: ww help I think
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ahh ty
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: how to get xrt to work? Ive xset mark the beginning of an area, and how can I get the xrt to work?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: just xrt <areaname>
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: Alias function "xrun_to" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: oh you need the S&D fix. finger ... um, what's that guy's name...
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i got it from winklewinkle
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Winklewinkle's version doesn't make xrt work. I think it's a bug or something.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Try using Fiendish's version. Finger Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: yeah. if you're using winkle's S&D you'll need the fix that fixes S&D with the new mapper schema.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: The web address should be a link to where you can download their S&D :)
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Oh, whoopsies, I am dumb, fiendish is not the S&D guy
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: He's the MUSHclient guy
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: excatly that
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i know bast, winkle, and nokjah?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Try using Winklewinkle 1.3.1 rather than 2
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I'm trying to remember the name of the guy thatI got the S&D fix from. ugh.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: starling?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: akfah? something like that.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Yes, try Starling
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: that's not right though sincethere's no one with that name. but it's something similar
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: Nokfah
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: starling has old version
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Tryllus, try using this: https://github.com/AardStarling/Search-and-Destroy-1.3.0
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: yes, nokfah
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: finger starling?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: if you want to use winkle's S&D, nokfah's fix will allow you to do it.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: thats what I want
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: I still use WW's spellup though
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Is there a reason to use winkle's+fix, if starling's already works?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: It's just so simple and good
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Daagar: The reason would be that Starling's one is a fixed version of Winkle's, so they're the same thing :3
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: well for me personally, I like winkle's, because it's accessible to those with screen readers.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Starling's is listed as S&D 1.3
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: That's kinda what I thought, Aliphant. Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: whats the command to set home on mapper?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: how do i get aard stuff based on id number from my bag? just id number and it didnt work, so?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: did you include the ()
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: gonna try it now
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: and correct bag number
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: get (123456789) bag
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: so.. get (somenumber) 2.bag or whatever
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: yeah.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: that works, thank you
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: you can also do that with the id of the bag ... get(123456789) (987654321)
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: yeah, it was what i wanted to know, I used cmud and they had tilde in it
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: maybe as an escape sequence for the parentheses? I dunno, never used cmud.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: you shouldn't need parentheses at all, right?  I don't use them and it works for me on mush.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: or is that just a mush thing?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: oh? hmm. I was told to put the parentheses.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: no parentheses for me either on mush
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: yeah. if I just type look 396732, which is my aard bag, I get I don't see that here. but if I put parentheses around it, it lets me look at it.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: that's a keyword, not the ID
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You can use the id without parentheses, but you need the parens for the keyword
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: uh, oh... where is the ID found?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: oh. under ID in identify. interesting.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: what do you get when you type "id bag" 
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: yep, that's the one
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: you can get a basic desc of an item that way no matter what yes, or rt ident ident item, if you want more info like where it's from
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: or use the identify spell, if you have it, which I do. :)
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: someone tell me more about this rsocials script
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: mendaloth's rsocials script?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess so
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what does it do?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: it just puts the socials into the comm log
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: how does it know?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Fiendish: https://github.com/mendaloth/a-few-random-aard-plugins/wiki seems to be the source
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: he just uses the pattern iirc
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what, starting with an asterisk?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is that safe?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: It's worked since I've been using it
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Seems to work reliably enough for my uses
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: match="^\*.+$"
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It'd be nice if socials were tagged and/or gmcp, but hey, we lives with what we gets.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nothing else ever starts that way?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: how can I discover what someone attached to my phone
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what do you mean attached to your phone? like a suction cup?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: the smotes start with red asterisks I think and that's all there is
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: fascinating. that trigger should be added to the comm log plugin
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: like he got ahold of my phone for a bit and flipped a swich or something....hes a little shit and not good enough for my niece
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: I want to catch his ass
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Looks like he does a quick check on the line asterisk color too
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: someone rsocial me
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: oh right if you random someone globally it's a bright magenta asterisk
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: was that a random?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so it does rsocials but not smotes?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: well the smote is only visible in the room
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's true
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so is say
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: true!
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: It checks for bright magenta and dark cyan
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: that Mendaloth is a thinker
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: rsocial me again plz
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: perfect
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: i demand my lick back, if testing is over
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/commit/437c76575127c999dc4ad3a363f8fd3950bcdcd4
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Now watch people find 1000's of cases where it captures when it shouldn't :)
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I hope so
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Daagar: I can't find a good visual reference for how to use/name theme elements. So they'll have to just be made up.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: That's fine, I just didn't want to screw up your original intent
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't have a way to briefly describe things like "inner shadow" and "outer shadow", so I think there will need to be some pictures made
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm not even sure I remember the difference between the two
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: inner/outer was one of the few I knew how to use correctly
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Because of your Resize widget function :)
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: But I realized quickly that I probably wasn't using face/detail/hightlight as intended. I was starting to use whatever wasn't already being used elsewhere...
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the current names were chosen years ago, and I've since lost memory and affinity for them. Feel free to suggest anything else if you think it makes sense. I'll also convert the comm log as probably the most complete example
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: choose_theme() also wasn't hooking into things quite right. When I load a new theme, some things apply but others don't. (I assume this was because of how _I_ was hooking things up, not anything wrong with choose_theme() itself)
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: That would be awesome - just having the comm plugin as a template would make it easy to be consistent across the others
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: for bast spellup plugin - anyone know how to set priority/move a spell to the top of the list?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Bast's stuff is good, but I take issues with his documentation
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: documentation is harder than programmin
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Even when it isn't harder, it isn't as fun
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: code just has to work. you don't have to look at it
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Code doesn't even have to work ALL the time
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: whats the command to make home as portal replacement and portal when home wont go in mushclient/mapper?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: is there a way to dig up stuff a teenager plopped off a laptop?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: plopped off is not a technical term. more specific?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: like check history of porn? :p
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I knew there was a reason I shredded my internet history :)
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: he completely erased everything we had on it...
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: no like wiped out his sisters college?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: on, he erased the disk?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: all the notes and info
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: is it on HDD or SSD?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: how thorough? just cleared recycle bin? formatted the drive?
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: is there a way to get it back? archives? time warp
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: well, depending on how he did it the stuff might be recoverable. But it will be hard to say without actually looking at the disk.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: try encase or ftk
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: if you use undelete or other types of recovery software, be sure to hook the drive to another machine because you want to save those files where there is less chance of overwriting and destroying "deleted" addresses
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: he cleared the trash bin
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: my first try would be 'recuva'
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: load it from like a usb or something. every time you write to the laptop drive, you risk overwriting deleted content
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: some files and folders have previous versions stored by windows, some more versions that others, some none, but it is worth a try to go to the folders and right-click on it then select previous versions. I recover deleted that way sometimes. Even if the trash bin is empty.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: the data is saved in one of the hidden partitions.
T3/r7/2017-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: fell off a minute sry
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: anyone know what order stuff to click on to remove the order and chaos game from my laptop? it closes and never worked
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: I'm over it and want to remove it
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralfkayne Tech: anyone*
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: depends on the question
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralfkayne Tech: i need some plugins. 
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: for blowtorch of zmud or cmud or telnet?
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralfkayne Tech: wich one is the android one?
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralfkayne Tech: between those 3 options i have no idea...
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralfkayne Tech: doesnt even say
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the android client is blowtorch and as far as i know, no one has any public plugins for it
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralfkayne Tech: hmm....is there a way to use plugins for pc on android and the mapper as well?
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: someone might know a way to remotely control your pc, that would be one way to do it
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: something like teamview but for android
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralfkayne Tech: i will do some research. i remember someone was doing this
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: google android teamviewer
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: I have a teamviewer app installed on my phone, I don't know if it's 'google teamviewer' however. It seems to be the same teamviewer I have installed on my pc.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: he mean use google to find teamviewer
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sheriff Shindo sighs.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: there is only one teamviewer named app 
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: well, it's the 'google' thing I don't agree with.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: that is common term "google <something>"
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i meant the verb 'google' to look up on a search engine
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: I am still resisting using 'google' as a verb, I still consider it an noise.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i was in no way implying that the app was owned by google
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: I use google to look up data, I don't google the data :)
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: language changes, everybody uses "google something", even though google objects this
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yeah, i seem to recall they tried to stop the Swedes from adding a word that, something like ungoogleable, that translates to unsearcheable, to their official dictionary
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: language doesn't change, google is, at best, a noun. Just because people are too lazy to say 'I use google to' doesn't make the use of 'google' as verb grammatically correct.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: and 'everybody' doesn't use 'google' as a verb. I know of at least one person that doesn't :)
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: really, you still use "gentle" as "noble" equiv ? qed
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: if language didn't evolve we'd all still be speaking like chaucer or moses
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: I can't think of a context in which either the word 'noble' or the word 'gentil' would be used. Perhaps when that happens I'll let you know.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: do you still distinguish "computer" (like Cray or Odra) from "personal computer" like any x86 based machine?
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: well, I have no clue how Moses spoke, but as to Chaucer, there was nothing really wrong with his manner of speech.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: he certainly wouldn't have 'googled' something. He would have used google, however.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: or the equivlent :)
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I even remember some people using term "computer" for calculators, technically it it correct, as calculator uses its CPU to compute 
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: actually, computer is a misnomer, the correct term is 'computing machine'
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: though 'computing' glosses over what the machine actually does, which is simply add (serially) :)
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: so I guess you find "thou shalt use the google search engine" more correct than just "google"
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: OTOH interesting thing is that nobody uses "bing something"
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: only because 'bing' hasn't displaced google yet :)
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: hi .. I thought I used to have the tick timer on the GUI at the bottom left of MUSHCLIENT. After I upgraded recently, I do not see that anymore.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: anyone knows how to configure that ?
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: Aardwolf_Tick_Timer.xml
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: thanks Deuter
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I just googled it :P
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: LOL .. stupid me .. I was googling for configurations .. I thought it was built in. Forgot about plugins.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: you were using google to search configurations? How grammatical of you :>
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralfkayne Tech: im on Google!
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: you poor thing.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralfkayne Tech: some genius please make my mapper work on Android please
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: i faintly recall there being a plugin for helping to manage potions and whatnot. anybody remember where to find it?
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Several of them.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: okay. if it helps. i remember there was a set. one for potions, and one for managing eq sets. i think they were made by the same person?
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Then you're probably looking for Bast's. Finger him for the link.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: yep. looks right. thank you arcidayne
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: I am using MUSHclient for Aardwolf.  Is there a way to setup a command so it will cast two or more spells?  I want to just type 'buff' and have it auto-cast all my buff spells.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: alias buff spellup self
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah, just use the built in spellup command
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: Cool!  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salidar Tech: anyone know if it is possible to increase the buffer size on the communication log on the aardwolf mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i wasnt aware it had limitations
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh its hardcoded to 10,000
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there's no way to change it
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: unless you edit it yourself and reload it
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SnailImm Anaristos . o O ( zap it on disk? )
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: Is MUSHclient open source?  If so, you could make the changes yourself and then compile it.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its just a plugin, edit the text file
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Mushclient is not, however the comm log plugin is.
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salidar Tech: hrrrmm....might have just been something with my system.  The bar is now getting smaller and no messages appear to have been deleted
T3/r7/2017-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salidar Tech: thank you for the responses
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Using the aardwolf mushclient, how do i add another cummunication window?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: err, i mean communication window
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Does anyone know how to add another "communication log" window so i have two on the same screen with the aardwolf mushclient? (recommended)
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: looking for a script on mush, pst
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: Metis look here. Close to the bottom "Creating multiple log windows".. https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Communication-log-window
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Thanks guys, i'll look more
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: seems i need to make a duplicate of the communication log "plugin" and add it
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Ohh i got two chat windows now, thanks guys :)
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: is there any plugin that will give info level gained, cp gained?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Using Aardwolf MUSHclient, how do you hide the "mobsay" channel from the main window? i could hide most other channels but this one refuses.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: you tried the Echo channels in main window/\custom channel list option?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: custom echo list I meant
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: I turned off all echo
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: ok that should kill mobsay. If it doesnt then I'm out of options, sorry.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: is mobsay a relatively new channel or something perhaps?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Mobsay has been around for years.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: What's that?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: A channel mobs use for say.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Did not know that, thought they used say same as everyone else
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Was responding to a tech question from a half hour ago.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: They are separate so people can ignore one and keep the other, if they want. Or have them both different colors.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: It was me that asked about mobsay, yes i cannot seem to stop the mobsay from appearing in main window
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Did you right-click comm window, choose Echo channels to Main -> Echo custom list -> then ctrl+click the ones you want to keep (or ctrl+click to remove mobsay)?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: They are all unselected, mobsay still prevails :(
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Then let Fiendish know, since if that's the case, it's a bug.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Is there a way to forcibly attack followers/pets (eg. if you used charm person on a cp mob and need to kill it)
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Have you tested it out? it might only be like this for me
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I'll check, sure.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Aliphant: Have to wait for charm to wear off, but you can do 'nofollow <name>', and it might work. I forget.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Metis: What mobsays are you attempting this on?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Or which ones are going through that shouldn't?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: mobsay is getting through to the main window even with all echo is off
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I'm asking which specific ones.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Oh it is the academy teachers
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I don't think they use mobsay, then. Hmm.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: I think i have confirmed it is mobsay channel because i can filter them out in the communication log windows, one has mobsay the other doesn't and they work perfectly, but the main window doesn't care :(
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: it doesn't matter if i have one or two communication log windows, or if mobsay is on or not in that window or if echo is on or off, it seems to always be on 
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Do the academy teachers always spam your main window for you as well, even when you remove echo from main?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: academy teachers use Tell
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: My chat window only allows mobsay and it displays what they say
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: if you are done with them maybe they use tells, i still haven't finished all their tasjs
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: how do you get them to "tell" you things?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: keywords
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: listen
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: read room descriptions
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: sometimes their are secrets
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: listening to them seems to be mobsay in my case
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Kippe, how you get them to "tell" you things? are you using the ventrilo spell maybe?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: they tell you things when you are doing the academy goal
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: hmm i think i need to find an npc that always talks
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: for everybody
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: the other npc's use mobsay. Academy teachers use Tell when doing the goal
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Ah okay, i'm not actually doing the goal now, just walking into the room and doing "repeat"
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: maybe that coudns as doing goal tho
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: counts
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: I think it should. You are still newb level
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: think i'll report this as a bug and just move on
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: though can you hide their chat from main window somehow? i'm curious
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, speak to Fiendish about it.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: disabling mobsay echo works fine for me
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe try updating to r1930
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Hi Fiendish :) i'm using 4.98, is this up to date?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: could it be that he has the academy goal open and it overrrides mobsay?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: is there some other mobsay i can test it against?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: maybe try that mob at the beginning of Gallow Hill? he always talks
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hi metis. no. I'd appreciate keeping aardwolf-specific issues off the mushclient.com forum. Either write a note here on tech, send me an email, or add an issue to my github repository at https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/issues
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: willy the wimp?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: yeh
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (I'm catching up on some channel history here)
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient _is_ open source at https://github.com/nickgammon/mushclient  but that's not where my Aardwolf plugins live
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: willy the wimp output shows up in main and in my mobsay exclusive chat window
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/ takes compiled builds of MUSHclient.exe and packages them with plugins for Aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Metis: go to https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: sorry if i bug reported in the wrong forum, how i find the right place to report?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: k
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mobsay is mobsay. you can see what the game is sending you by typing 'gmcpdebug 1'
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 'gmcpdebug 0' turns it back off
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in any case, I'm sittin the academy and listening to the recruiter, and mobsay is being captured but not echoed
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so there's another detail to this that we're missing
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but first please try updating to r1930 and see if that fixes it
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: yeah it appears to be mobsay
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 'checkversion' command will tell you what package version you currently have (this is not the same as the version of MUSHclient.exe)
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: The 'checkversion' command
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: r1825
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: i'm going to install the next client and see what happens, brb
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: See also https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Version-Numbering#mushclient-says-the-version-is-490-why-is-that-not-my-version
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: k
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: i'm back: "You are currently using Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: r1930"
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: success! seems to work, willy is quiet
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: yeh!! peace at last
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: excellent
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: good job, team
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Thanks a bunch! :)
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Should i still report this as a bug for the older version?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what? no
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't have the manpower for maintaining multiple concurrent versions. the first response to any bug is "try upgrading"
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there's only one version. the latest one.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: That's reasonable, what needs fixing might be the download link for this client package :S
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when I figure out what's going on with some peoples' comm log window placement I'll suggest that to Lasher
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but only after
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: That would be great :)
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: logging off now
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: k, thanks again :) 
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Hmm this new version changes how my inventory displays
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: it displays the Id number for the items and the "Glowing" and "humming" flags is now just (G) and (H)
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: The text wrapping seems a bit odd as well, think i need a slightly bigger main window now else the room description have just one word and the rest a blank line before more text on the next line
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: anyone noticed that aardwolf_tick_timer.xml plugin is not working well with the latest version of aardwolf mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: is there a command line way to level-lock an exit, so I don't have to right click on it and all that fun happy stuff?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: kind of: mapper lockexit
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: ok thanks.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but that just brings up the exit level-locking dialog
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe in new version (newer than r1830) it accepts extra arguments 
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beneric Tech: I have a problem with me inventory, can someone help?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: what's the problem?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: lets hear it
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beneric Tech: If i type inventory or "i" I dont get a list like ussual, i get alot of white text with the items and numbers all together liek this (invdata)1829383472,GH, small face mask, 
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beneric Tech: but if I type inv ansi it looks like normal
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: tags inv off
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beneric Tech: dosen't help
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: hmm. strangeness.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Beneric, you probably are having an issue with Aardwolf's/Fiendish's aardwolf inventory serials plugin.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: are you using any inventory plug-ins?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Press CTRL SHIFT P is it enabled?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beneric Tech: No just the MUSHclient-
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: The Mushclient has one in the folder - not sure if it's enabled or disabled by default.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Type CTRL SHIFT P, if you see Aardwolf Inventory Serials in the list then that is likely the problem.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beneric Tech: I dissable it and now it is back to normal =)
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You may want to post a bug note to fiendish, or report it on his github site.  Can you think of anything that changed recently that would cause it to mess up?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beneric Tech: No not really, the bigmap also failed at logup so i hade to reinstall, and it was after that the inventory broke.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Beneric has a bad prompt
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc swats Beneric's prompt on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm 99% guessing, but my advice is that Beneric should fix his prompt so that it ends properly
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: =h
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beneric Tech: And how does one do that, I just copied from guide on YT..
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: copy/paste what 'prompt data' says under Rawcolor Game Prompt
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "prompt data"...does Regular Game Prompt and Regular Battle Prompt both end in %c?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's possible for those to look like they end in %c without actually
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you have %c 
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you have %c@w @w
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for instance
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beneric Tech: not the battle one
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beneric Tech: ends %b
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: all prompts should end in either %c or %c@w
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I unfortunately can't stay. If y'all don't work this out message/email me
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beneric Tech: Do I have to change something?
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should change your battle prompt to end in a %c
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so what you can do is copy your rawcolor battle prompt, then type the word "bprompt" and a space, paste the existing rawcolor battle prompt in, and type %c at the end of it, then hit "enter"...the battle prompt will probably end up looking something like [%h/%Hhp %m/%Mm %Xtnl %d %bMOB] %l %L>%c
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and when you type "prompt data" again, it'll look like Rawcolor Battle Prompt : [%h/%Hhp %m/%Mm %Xtnl %d %bMOB] %l %L>%c
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beneric Tech: like this bprompt %h/%H Health %m/%M Mana %v/%V Moves - $%g Align %a %d Tnl:%X Quest:%q %c
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: lol I'm back on aard for the first time in a while, why might the client be saying a lot of abreviated information about channels instead of playing a sound, also giving me coords every time I move
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: ok, I'm an idiot. I didn't get on using the package, but the normal mush I use for other muds.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: oh. you'll definitely want thededicated aard mush.
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: I have it. but it's been so long I'd forgotten I had a dedicated client for it lol
T3/r7/2017-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: and I was wondering why things weren't working like they should lol
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: need help for a new scipt on mush, pst for more information, tps reward
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Mcgregor Tech: why page dont make sound with mush client? windows sound setting are at 50% volume. youtube etc makes sound nicely...
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: looking for new script on mush, Tps reward, PST for more info
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: looking for new script on mush, Tps reward, PST for more info
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: scope?
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No, because you need to outline what you want to do before I send you a tell to see if it's even worth it.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: exactly my point
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: But he probably wants something he thinks only he should have and doesn't want the idea stolen by anyone else.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: or a bot :P
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: Arcidayne , true :p
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You'd have to pay me big in order to not share with everyone else. :p
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Send a note my way on what you want to do, though, and I'll give it some thought.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: But as of now, I have to go to work.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: tech anyone know if/how to import scripts into blowtorch V2 ?
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: or even into the aardwolf version
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: unless it's written specifically for Blowtorch, I'm not sure they'll work. But if you have the script, I -believe- you just need to copy/paste it into the scripts box. I'm not sure though, I did all my Blowtorch coding specifically skirting around that feature.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i want to work on a pc with full keyboard then export it to my tablet
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: so yes it will specifically be written for blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: if you write it in notepad or whatever, save it to an sd, directly to the tablet, or a cloud service, and then copy-paste it into the scripts, I think it would work, but that's the only way I can think of that might work. 
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: cause there's not really an 'import' option unless you're importing the entire xml file
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i don't mind working on xml files
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: because then it is sharable
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: how to make a button/icon in win10 that opens n links in tabs in one browser window?
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: will there be added feature allowing to lock room from commandline? like "mapper lockexit n 200"
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: that would be oh so very nice.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I've seen several times questions about how to lockexit without touching mouse
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can currently do 'mapper lockexit' which will bring up a selection dialog that can be navigated with arrow keys
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: adding mapper lockexit n 200 would also be doable
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: oh. ok, I wasn't sure that dialog was accessible. cool.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I was not aware that you can navigate using arrows in that dialog
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I can add accessibility features, but knowing what is and isn't accessible is difficult for me
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Byrnatha rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you encounter something that isn't accessible enough please let me know
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: totally understandable.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however commandline probably is more VI-friendly 
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I try not to speculate too much about what is or isn't good for someone else
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I can go and add in optional arguments to lockexit though
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you consider adding "mapper titan clear Durthar" or something similar? that feature would be useful for me and also seems to be quite useful for Titan epic doers
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know anything about epics or what that command would do
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: give me info
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: I've done titan 400 tiems and I dont know what that command would do either
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that would delete 100 rooms from mapper of known IDs
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: what's the point of that?
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: randomly?
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for titan it would be useful because you could: mapper delete durthar, then in epic: durthar is 38324, so othe players can just "mapper goto 38324" - no need to hunt
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: oh if you're able to re-map the entire thing every time
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I still don't understand
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Durthar is one of bosses in Titan area, it has subarea 10x10 (100 rooms) - connections are reset every run
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: while in epic you are transed by that boss to some random room in those 10x10 and you can return to boss to kill him, also he teleports self every 10 or 20% hp
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also time matters, usually after boss teleports all players split and start searching for that boss
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: once he is found they set a mob so other players can hunt that mob in case they got teleported
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now, as connections between rooms are fixed, and fight lasts 10-15 minutes - it is quite likely you will explore enough of that area
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you can get back to boss just by "mapper goto <boss room>"
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so the short answer is you have a 10x10 maze that you want to unmap
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm. if it used the virtual area flag this would already be done.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wonder if that code is accessible
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however, though this feature seems quite useful for me I am not too frequent Titan runner
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but Ralyn is, so Ralyn do you think it is useful or not worth doing it ?
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this sounds like it could need a not very simple interface for grouping and ungrouping rooms
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think it is more like: for i = 38000 to 38100 : "delete room <room id>"
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is already "delete room" under right click
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: this seems like builders are trying to find ways to become un-mappable
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I still get MUSH main screen going black some instances, rare though but worrying, is it a GPU thing on win 7?
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: to be unmappable it would use the nomap room flag
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Exhale: show me
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: How do I show you? The text dissapear from 1sec to 5 seconds. Only wolf logo is vissual
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: once a week mayb
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: screenshot
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but indeed, I'm unkeen to add anything that would circumvent the desires of an epic area builder
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Wow. I will need to be very fast to take that screenshot when it happens out of the blue, but i will try
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hopefully the area could be made to use a randomized virtual sub-area if that is the goal
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that I think you have to talk to Lasher about
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the mapper already has the ability to handle a 'virtual' flag on areas
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it automatically purges such areas upon exit to another area
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I just meant it feels like an arms race.  presumably the intent is to produce something "random" each time.  I guess I'm imposing my own opinion about the desire to avoid the mapper, since they could have just used nomap, like you said.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ok, another question - is there a way to mark some rooms immutable? (also titan)
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean Titan changes flags PK to no-PK on some rooms in void
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh, it changes flags? hmm
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so basically I want to mark them fixed so mapper won't remove exits
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: after I disabled my win 7 stock firewall, this popped up in Resource monitor ( scrcons.exe ), I immediatly activated my firewall, since it was using about 5megs of internet data, somehow scketchy
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mapper help search ignore mismatch
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I can manually connect those rooms, but after flags are changed - all links are removed
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not sure if it won't update on flag changes
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I will check that
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but that could be put in, I suppose
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: on the list of mapper feature requests I'd love, is it possible to expose a way to create user-defined "circles" on the bigmaps?
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: circles?
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for unmarked entrances?
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: some already show up, like an outline around a 3x3 grid of rooms.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: pup circle, mapper advance, kill mobs, mapper advance, ....
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: unmarked entrances, portal landing locations, that kind of thing.  like a poor man's heat map.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: could be used for lots of things, I guess.  my desire is to find a way to get a visual representation of portal coverage over landmass.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: portal coverage?
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: portal coverage I dont understand, but the short answer is anything is possible
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Assume he means a room that is furthest from a portal will be darkest or something
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: like, say I have three portals, with different landing locations, relative to a bigmap.  I'd draw a square around each coordinate to highlight where they are.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I'd use that map as data for buying another portal.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the bigmaps update themselves periodically I believe, so the circle measurements would need to be stored somewhere and draw them on the bigmap images when writing those images out
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: that's about what I was thinking.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess with a hotspot grabbing keypresses, and a new table of marked locations it wouldn't be hard to add
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I figured there'd need to be additional data stored somewhere, possibly, for different colors, that kind of thing.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think this is the sort of thing that I would let someone else implement and merge when done
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not hard to do, but somewhat time consuming, and with potentially countless configuration options
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it seems like just the thing for an interested third party
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: was afraid you were going to say that. :)  Lua's not in my toolset yet.
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: someone asked the other day about pages not beeping. there are multiple possible reasons, but one of them could be needing to upgrade
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Never underestimate the power of updating :)
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I had to add beeps to gmcp messages containing bell characters
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because they're in the message but mushclient doesn't interpret them automatically because they're out of band
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: special characters are processed only for things that are displayed to the screen
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so if you capture channels but don't echo them it wouldn't beep before I added a check for them
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that wasn't added until r1899
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Anyone here know about peak detection in signals?
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: unfortunately "ignore exits mismatch here" does not help in Titans' Keep after change room flag no PK -> PK 
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: in mush how can i make the font in my communication log different?  i can only figure out how to change the main window
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: on the top "bar" where is says "com ... Log" right click
T3/r7/2017-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: are there no longer state files for mushclient plugins?
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: never mind .. i appparently can't read
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kevinl Tech: i would like to ask how to change the background picture of mushclient thx!
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: there may not be many listening on that channel at the moment, Kveinl. But don't give up, eventually someone will say something :)
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you mean the grey "sripes"
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: anyone managed to configure their client and options to play it with a hand on number pad at all times except for like chatting?
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: easy, walk with your right hand and type with your left
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: but the "k" button is to the right of where my left hand usually is
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: move your laft hand to the K
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: and the enter key is far to the right... (tho i noticed now i can use the numberpad enter key as well, this makes it easier)
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: in short. Type the numpad keys with your right hand and all other keys with your left hand
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: The Aardwolf MUSHclient uses the numpad for movement.
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: So no configurations needed? i would want to rebind the  k button to like q or something
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: No other configurations needed. You can even bind some frequesntly used commands to the keys on the numpad that you dont use for movement
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: yeah i think i want "where" on a key someplace there
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: why you need where when you can see the area and room on the mapper miniwindows
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: good point, well i can see the level range and also players and i'm not so used to seeing the area on the map
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nvm I'm dumb
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you also use where for mobs
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: is the top text the area or the room? :P just a habit thing i guess
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: guys i get a tfontt error from basts plugins any idea how to solve it?
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: anyone available to assist me in troubleshooting basts plugins i get an error stating that tfontt is nil
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: bingo game could be doable with mush plugin. who's gonna take the job?
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hwua will
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: 1 2 3 not it
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: if i'd do it, i'd be botchecked each day. i must hide my awesome scripting skills
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Pay me 100 tps, and I'll do it.
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: How about Keno?
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pachinko. That's what we need, pachinko.
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: abelinc!
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I missed you
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: Pachinko doesn't seem very doable.
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: abelinc is doable
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: If you say so :P
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: first-hand experience
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why wouldn't pachinko be doable?
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: one could even do pachinko in-game as mobprogs
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: Well, it would be doable from a programming perspective.  From my own view though, it's really all the noise, bright lights, and animations that make pachinko so appealing.
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: agreed, but you could do that too
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: make me a fidget spinner mobprog
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the only thing that can't be done is sleep coroutines for shorter periods than 1 second. but now that I think about it, I wonder if you couldn't have a pool of coroutines that each sleep for a second but start running at fractional offsets...
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: Is there a way to get the Aardwolf MUSHclient to automatically enter my username and password?
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: on connect?
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Triggers
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}C= Amigan Tech: Should be in the options somewhere, I'm sure there are fields you just fill in?
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Alt + enter, then on the left, "Connecting"
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: What option for Connect?  MXP?
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: No idea. Try them out
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: Diku-style works :)  Thanks everyone!
T3/r7/2017-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}C= Amigan Tech: Ah yes, all coming back to me now :)
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ive a bit problem with handheld portal when i use xrt to a new area, it wont swap back. So is there anything with mapper bounceportal or?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreylen Tech: make sure the alias you used to create the portal in mapper portal <port alias> is correct
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: its right, i just need to swtich from lower lvl portal to higher lvl portal to hold, i cant find it where i can switch it
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreylen Tech: mapper portallevel <ind> <lvl> that one?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Got a fright today, PC didnt want to boot into EUFI, needed to pull battery.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: so now it works without the battery?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: No, I left it out for like 5 min before inserting it again.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Guess it was the usb legacy compatiblt patch I toggled a few weeks ago.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: file>global preferences - General Tab. Check F1,F6 are macros
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: sry for miss channel, thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: okay works now, thx :)
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: something weird happened to my blowtorch client... it reset itself and now it works perfectly! who ever hacked my phone and did this is an awesome person,thanks yall
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: nice!! do you have plugins on blowtorch or just the chat?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: how to remove the numbers next to item in inventory=
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what numbers?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: i dont know. it just reset itself and now it looks like i have bigger screen and it doesnt crash when i export settings. also doesnt freeze up my notification bar after i rotate the screen
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Tryllus, press CTRL+SHIFT+P and remove "aard_inventory_serials"
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ah that was it
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ty
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: where do you get the chat plugin?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: theres a github on google . i forget the creator 
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: theres some other plugins that help . but mostly only work on tablets. i hsve auto hunt
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: If you want the chat plugins, i'd "finger fiendish" and download that package.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it has all the fancy aard-specific scripts already.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: he has blowtorch plugins?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Oh crap, didn't read back far enough
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Here's what you want: https://github.com/blockda/aardwolf_plugins
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: thanks cheez!
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: blockda that was it! the creators of blowtorch used to hsve forums and links but the site is no longer available. so blowtorch is dying :(
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: as long as i can leech on tier0 gqs till i get a pc,im cool
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: ive tried playing on pc i cant seem to grt used to it after starting on the phone :/
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I only use my phone to SSH into my PC to use my real client :P
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: pc is the bomb. luckily i backed up mapper. you could finish a whole mort and alot of cps with one hand
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: i guess id need to learn those things loke mapper . is there a wiki i could look up
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: im having trouble making a simple alias to get my portal equip, use amd then put away again. ive seperated the commands with semicolon but cant get it to anything past getting the portal out
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: use double semicolons.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: One on each line.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So if you're using a mudside alias, you can't pass parameters to it if it contains ;s
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: so ;get;
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: are you allowed to put an alias in an alias
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: o i see
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Not mudside at least.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: not mudside
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: so its fine on my side? sweet
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: And in clients you'll usually have to tell it to re-evaluate
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: has be double or it wont output
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Are you using mush?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: blowtorch. it would be an mudside alias
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Why? BT has aliases
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: oh??
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: yeah and you only need to us one semi colon on it. tap the top right screen and look for 'aliases'
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: http://bt.happygoatstudios.com/?view=aliases
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: guess idk how to use the alias on bt
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: See above
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: im pretty sure that site is no longer 
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I just went to it to get that url...
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arathon SMACKS Varrion upside the head, wonder what he did.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: huh. everytime i try to go it says unavailablr
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Assuming just makes an ass out of you and you alone :P
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: which network provider you using?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That shouldn't matter. It's a google DNS
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: it worked with me
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: how do i make a gq trigger. i dont wanna miss gqs
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Main/MudMessages
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: my bad. its a bit confusing lol 
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Match on ==> Global Quest: Global quest # * has been declared for levels * to *
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Then you need to check if %2 > @level > %3
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Actually you may not need to check that, not sure if you see that message if you're out of range.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: i only see gqs available to me
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: cheezburger=google
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arathon Tech: thanks again!
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: thanks cheez figured it out
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: is anyone available to help me troubleshoot a plugin from Bast i get a weird font error on the latest mush client
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: pastebin the error
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: this is what i get when loading bast_hunt https://pastebin.com/qkcHdhqz
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: is it possible to send a wall of text to somebody using the mushclient / aardworlf client?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: god, I hope not
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: haha, i just want to see what item he is talking about and want the full identify screen
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: put it in a note
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: good idea, thx
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Feranesa: As best I can tell, it's just missing a font file somewhere. I'd re-install bast over the MUSH install
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: hmm thanks for looking, too bad it doens't report which font file is missing
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: need info, in mush how to obtain my current level?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'm just guessing here, but the "addfont" function I'm assuming is supposed to populate the 'tfontt' variable, but for some reason isn't.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Nao: You'd need to pull it out of the GMCP info
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I want to buy and install a TV card next week, in my motherboard book it shows  1 PCI express 2.0 times 26 mode. And 1 PCI express 2.o slot. obviosly the 16 times one is for my GPU, but when i look into the case the other pci slot is only like 2centimeters, is this normal?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: thx Cheezburger
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Then it's a PCIE 1x?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-pci-express/4/
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I think so, but is the 2cm in length normal for such a slot? its worryinh e
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: TV cards usually need a x8 slot IIRC
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Maybe not.. the Elgato apparently uses a PCI x1
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: but some like the Geforce210 use a x16
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Nods, perhaps i can try an USB tc card if all else fails, but its a 2016 MB so i dont know.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Could always do something like: http://www.silicondust.com/products/hdhomerun/hdhomerun/
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: bah, that link broke
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: https://www.silicondust.com/
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Will have to take my MB manual to the PC shop to make sure prior the purchase. all I want to do is to record television programmes onto PC
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale nods at No Offense Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Heh, the Geforce 710 isnt that bad, its quite a beast for old games like 200 to 2009
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: MSI low profile 710, it replaced the 720 in it latest build in 2016
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: somehow i messed up with tags, now im stuck with spells tags, and ive typed tags spellups off and it still shows spell tags there, how to get rid of them?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Mush turns those on at startup
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Whatever script was originally hiding them is potentially broken
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: it was fine until i retiered
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Log off and log back on
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: the tags are stuck, i get spellup tags in middle of fight
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Again, MUSH turns those on.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The issue is that you see them, not that they're on
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: normally a script hides them.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: yes i see them and i want to get rid of them
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You potentially disabled a script, or it crashed and deactived itself
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Can you have two keybaords plugged at the same time?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: all I can say is that  iwas looking at tags and decided to disable some of it
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: then it got screwed up
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You can have two keyboards plugged in at the same time...
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, disabling the tags was likely what caused the plugin to screw up
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You can have as many keyboars as you want...
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods at No Offense Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale bows deeply.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: is it trigger or alies that reacts to game text i haven't inputted?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: triggers
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: alias is about what you type, trigger is about what the game displays
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: i cannot get triggers to work
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: nvm, worked now
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: how would i go about making a trigfer for spellup?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: too many possible messages
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: finger bast, on the website there is a spellup plugin, iirc. start from there
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'd agree with Liber. No need to recreate the wheel, as it's been done very well already.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: But it's also one of the most tedious scripts to write initially
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Not necessarily. Can just trigger off {affoff} and check for state and just do spellup.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Bast's allows for some customization.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Well, there's the queueing of affoffs, there's the knowing of your combat state, etc
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Only need to be concerned with one message.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Don't need to queue for affoff.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You do if you're in combat :P
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: or you're just going to spam spellup spells at the mo
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: mob*
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: spellup plugins wont work for blowtorch, was gonna stumble my way into creating triggers
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Then you run into special cases like prot good/evil :P
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Fair enough. I misunderstood you to mean putting the spells collectively into its own queue rather than waiting for combat end.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: There is a spellup plugin for blowtorch and it works fine.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: whaaaaaat
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: github.com/blockda
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Specifically: https://github.com/blockda/aardwolf_plugins
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: but doesnt that require a huge package that okly works on tablet?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That I couldn't tell you
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'm just going off what people have told me
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: i dont even see a spellup plugin
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: oh thats fun and definitely won't get me slaughtered in the future. Apparently my mapper has decided anything in hell is now in ninehells
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I just updated to the most recent version of MUSH. Hyperlinks in the main output window are now shown as underlined even when the mouse isnt hovered. Anyone know how to disable that? Already tried the MXP/Pueblo setting.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: are you icecool?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Um, I wish?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: you do?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Disble Hyperlink_URL2 plugin?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: that very well could be it. I just tried and the client auto-reinstalled it
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: dumb question: how do I change screen orientation in Windows 7 if I can't do Ctrl+Alt+Arrow?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: rotate your screen 90 degrees physically
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Right-click the desktop?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: alternatively you could cock your head to the side, however your eyeballs may circumvent that workaround
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm working on computers remotely and I somehow accidentally did Ctrl+Alt+Left and it worked but now it's not letting me set it back :(
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: wooooo
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you telling me you can't read the +fried or +cheese button cause its sideways?
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: +fries*
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I had to read that like 3 minutes to understand it
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well im glad you did
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it was a stretch but
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: remotely working on cash registers at a fast food place
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Bishoujo Raded.
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i could do that part-time while pupping, it would be epic
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: please stop talking about icecool on this channel
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: maybe check 'displayswitch.exe', I"m not really sure
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded is agreeing with that NotGod Pleiades person again...
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I got it sorted out :p
T3/r7/2017-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: we're just memeing now
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: In mushclient, is there a way to change the fonts?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: alt + 5
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: or game -> configure -> output
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: Cool!  Thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: is there a way to change the font in the communications window?  I can only change it a certain amount.  It says the font is not available.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: mouse, right click -> change font
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: I've done that Enei but i'm trying to change it to calibre 14 and it won't let me.  Says it's not available.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: If I move my tethered phone connectio0n to pc just 30 cm, the signal boosts, why is that?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I guess its the smoked filled air that prevents the signal from geting through
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: Can i make an alias/macro that sends commands to script and to world?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: in mushclient when creating an alias, say i want to leave something out for now, can i comment a line out?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: /-
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: sorry --
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Good god tt, stop that. --> "--[ this is a comment  --]"
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: so it's --[  ]--  ?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: --[ that is not a comment ]--
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Technically it is
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: because -- is a single line comment
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: multiline is --[[ --]]
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost walks around in the room, looking very confused.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I guess technically the second set of "--" isn't needed. --[[ This is 
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I guess technically the second set of "--" isn't needed. --[[ This is \n A mutliline \n Comment ]]
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: thought i tried "-- comment--"  without the quotes and it didn't seem to work.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: TIL tt++ actually parses \n as a newline
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: giggle
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: what is the best spell up plugin?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: I use winkle's and it works fine
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: spellup plugin?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: if you have an alias set up to send to script, what the syntax to have it call to a plugin? Like i want to make an alias to door to a mob then mapper goto a room?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: u can just set the alias to execute instead of send to world and call them both in a row
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: oo ok ill try that
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: c door %1 next line mapper goto xyz
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: lol. How do you get to be familliar with all that stuff anyway. I've been back and forth through the mush manual and it still speaks greek to me.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: that may not work because the mapper may try to run before you finish door'ing to the mob
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: yeah Durel is right, thought about that after I said it
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: you probably want a trigger to confirm that you are at the mob and then run the mapper command
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: agreed
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: or you could cheat and just add a delay before running the mapper :P
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: ah yeah ok, can u put a pause in place maybe?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: mapper and mapper extender both like to query the database without necessarily waiting for mud commands
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: ahh a delay
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: syntax for delay?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I think a door might fail (which would mean broken speedwalk), but nothing will get executed before the spell either succeded or failed
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'd recommand using the wait package that comes with aardclient.  The syntax there would be wait.time(someNumberOfSeconds)
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: alternatively u can just rely on mapper extender completely
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: set an alias to door to mobname, then use the mapper portal to add the alias to that room destination
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: but that might cause you some grief during global quests
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I just tested that: not only doorway gets executed, but the server also waits the cooldown time for doorway
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: so no delay needed for that
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: ok cool, now for the next thing i want to do
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: also, no need to make an alias that will door AND move to a mapper room
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: ugh why do I keep forgetting doorway is such a great way to move around the mud
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: i was to disablespellup in winkles, cancel on myself, re-enable winklesspellup, then call sharptrackers sps command
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: map the doorway (with the above limitations) as a portal or something, and the mapper will include that in the walk
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: yeah portal should be easiest
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: might cause some rt instead of xrt on global quests, but that should be tolerable
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: it depends where the target is
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: can u use doorway at all during a GQ?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: if you put it on a continent room, just before the area entry, it won't break even during gqs
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: or am I thinking gate that gets shutdown
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: ahh good to know
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: actually, that might need checking
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I thought the spell itself got shut down during GQ
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: during quests door is completely useless. during gqs, I'm not sure (I'd say not, but I never used it during gqs anyway) :)
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: a GQ in my lvl range just came up, I can probably test it
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: try to door a target in a completely unrelated area. door 'yellow brick' for example
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: woo hoo, I am the only person I have a chance of winning
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: shutdown during gq
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: can you have mush delay before sending the next command no matter what it is in an alias? like if you no matter what wanted it to send gossip hello, then wait 5 seconds send gossip shut up newb
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You could.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: does anyone know how to take a screen shot on your computor screen?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you're using Windows, just use the snipping tool
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That said, pressing Print Screen button will take a snapshot of the current desktop and put it in the clipboard for pasting into something else. (ms paint is common)
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I've written quite a bit of lua code in scripts but I haven't used plug-ins much yet and I'd like to move my code over to plug-ins instead.  Which "OnPluginXXX()" function can I call for my init code that loads my data?  OnPluginInstall looks like a one-type thing when the plug-in is first installed.  OnPluginConnect is called very early -- even before GMCP is enabled.  Am I missing some function?  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: this is for mushclient by the way...should have mentioned that :)
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i think that issue plagues a lot of plugins
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i use a function to check for when the gmcp data is loaded that i want (timer), then it initializes or continues etc
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I could do something evil like add a timer in OnPluginConnect and then do the real init a few seconds later...but that feels a little evil
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its worse if you actually want gmcp data, and its not ready yet
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Just listen for broadcasts?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, I needed to add timers and periodically keep checking to see if GMCP is up.  I was hoping plug-ins had a solution to that
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: on FM or AM?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: UHF
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Oh, does GMCP broadcast when it is alive?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Look at how the group monitor plugin receives data
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I could listen for that
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: OK, thanks for the suggestion.  I'll look into that.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can also check the 'state' field of char.status
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: if I check the GMCP state before it is ready, it bombs :)
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if im not mistaken, you can pull gmcp from a plugin even if not connected.  so reconnects and the like wont play well.  but if you just want 1 specific gmcp table you'll be fine with broadcast
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its just stored in gmcphandler and doesnt clear out when disconnect right?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Taking a step back...my concern isn't specifically about GMCP.  That's just one symptom.  I'm looking for a solution so that I know when it is "safe" for me to init my plug-in.  I could wait until I see a GMCP broadcast and trigger off of that.  Is there a better general solution?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It depends on what initialization needs doing, I guess.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if you're not looking to pull "online" data then just put it in the code or a main function and call that at the end of the script
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: onplugininstall is called when installed or when mush starts
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: OK, I think I have a better understanding now.  You've given me several things to consider and experiment with.  Thanks everyone!
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylla Tech: I've got a couple probably dumb questions about the Aard client.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You're in luck, we've got a lot of dumb answers.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Just ask them, don't make a statement about them.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylla Tech: How do I save the locations of all of the windows? I have them where I want them, and if I close and reopen, they go back to the default locations
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: And dumb answerers...
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you don't. next.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What version do you have? Type 'checkversion'
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylla Tech: I just updated, r1930
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: They should stay where they were.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh sorry i read that wrong
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah, they shouldn't move around
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylla Tech: Ok, maybe it was just because my computer crashed
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Where do you have MUSH saved?
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It's possible.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Oh, yeah, that's definitely a possibility. Lots of plugins don't save state right away
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylla Tech: Since I switched to aardclient, I don't see the GQ notifications either in the comm window or the main window
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Check your echos list.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Turn them on. Right -click the comm long, check "Other information"
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Right-click on comm log.
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylla Tech: Ah...Other info..nice, thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylla Tech: Alright, I think that's it for now. Thanks all!
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: How do I change the font size in the windows of MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Alt-5, click "Font"
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Make sure you pick a fixed-width font, or displays like 'whois' and 'score' will be messed up. (I like Lucida Console)
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Consolas FTW!!
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Use whatever floats your boat, I'm not going to get militant about a damn font :D
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I will
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Courier New or setwanted
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Raded is already an outlaw.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I wonder how difficult it is to install 2 led side pannel fans.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Going to check the google picture instructions =)
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: I opened mushclient after my computer updated windows and I lost all plugins, aliases and mapper, how to gte them back?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you open it from a shortcut, or from opening up its folder?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: from folder, mushclient icon, should i use aardwolf icon instead of mushclient icon?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, that's the right one...I was hoping that maybe a shortcut got "confused" and was opening up a different MUSHclient folder
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: no, so theres no way to reload the search & destroy context as well mapper?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: S&D doesn't really have content...it just uses the mapper
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to game -> configure -> MUD name and IP address...make sure that the World Name is "Aardwolf"
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ys its aardwolf - aardmud.org:23
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ive aliased bunches of portals into mapper
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: and theres no mapper portal on:(
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are other things like the comm log window still there, and it's really just mapper stuff that's messed up?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: the regular aardwolf plugins from fiendish is there, only that winkles script is gone
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: so I had to reload winkles script, then i realized i dont have any alias/mapper 
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is game -> configure -> aliases empty?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: yes totally empty
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i had like 150 aliases there
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: do you see another aardwolf.mcl somewhere?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, so here's my plan...1) quit MUSHclient, and make a Windows file copy of the folder
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: aardwolf.mcl?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: aardwolf.mcl is in the next folder - world under mapper
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2) open up MUSHclient again, then in the other folder, open up worlds\Aardwolf.mcl in a text editor
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: how to open that aadwolf.mcl in text?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: right click, open with
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: another way is to open up Notepad, then just drag the file into the middle of the blank Notepad page
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: yeah i opened it
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i looked through, the keypad is there, alias/triggers have nothing in there
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, scroll down that to see if your aliases are there
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: and it was updated last night with nothing inside
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You go, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't suppose you ever make backups?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: no i started using mushclient like last monday
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you made 150 aliases?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i did 1 tier in few days
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my guess is that the .mcl file and your database file both because corrupted because MUSHclient was open when Windows update rebooted your computer...then the next time you started MUSHclient, it freaked out reading the .mcl file and basically wrote a clean one with the parts it could understand
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err became
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i think its what happened
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper database is the easier one, because Fiendish does automatic backups of that
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the MUSHclient folder, there's a db_backups folder
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: should really petition fiendish to make backups of the mcl file... lots of people seem to lose stuff when updating or so on
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: giggle, I just finished reading Starling's rant about Fiendish on the ideas board (waaay backed up)
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: it just updadted 13:27 and its like 25 mins ago and i believe it already updated to empty one
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: which note is that abelinc
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: theres none on mapper cexits, portals
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, so go to the next-older one
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: where do i find the older one? I dont have any more backups of it
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quit MUSHclient, copy the file to the root MUSHclient folder and name it Aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, it might've not gotten to another backup window, since you're pretty new to it...it'll usually have .db.Backup_Automatic, .db.Backup_Automatic_old, .db.Backup_Automatic_older, .db.Backup_Automatic_olderer
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ouch...you're sure that you don't have a different MUSHclient folder that you were using when you made all this stuff?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: didn't open mushclient from the zip file did you? :P
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i opened mushclient and unpacked them into its own folder, i made sure that I dont have it in zip folder
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: then i have opened/closed it few times
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: and it was working fine
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: until just now
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: close mushclient to rename the aardwolf-backup file to aardwolf.db then open mush?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: still no alias up
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, this wouldn't help the aliases, just hopefully bring back some of the mapper stuff
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: pretty sure aliases are stored in aardwolf.mcl so you're boned there.  aardwolf.db is just the mapper
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: omg, guess ill do it all over
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: I feel your pain, my mush just crashed and I lost everything too. 5 years worht of aliases and triggers. 
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Did you create a new plugin last night using the plugin wizard?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i never used wizard
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not a single backup in 5 years?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i was frusturated with spellup plugin last night that i removed it
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: that'll teach you to make backups :P
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: this is what I get for updating my dropbox and not double checking my mushclient backup was still there. I accidently deleted it last week. FML. 
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dropbox keeps backups
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: now i feel a bit better, shae
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: oooooo wehre??? 
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Mush is only thing I am religous about backing up
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: you're welcome!
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: how do I access dropbox backups? 
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: guess ill do the cp all to 200 to update all mapper and portals
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the web interface lets you go back revisions
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tryllus: if you do "mapper showroom 12345", does that room show up?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: yes it shows - along river angor
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: its only basic world/big map room yes but not area room
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, reason I ask is I wa wondering if the mapper corruption took you to a point which is worse than "from scratch"...i.e. if the rooms that Fiendish ships with it were also gone
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shae: in dropbox's web interface, there's a "Show deleted files" link on the right-hand side, as well as when you click the checkbox for an item in the web interface, there's a "Version history" link on the right-hand side
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: thanks ill check it out 
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: apparently ive several areas mapped, but not all areas
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: What's the site with Bast's plug-ins?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast ;-)
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Does he like that?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: what's the tick timer script called? 
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: aardwolf_tick_timer
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: ah! thank you yes found it
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: to make backup of all aliases - save the world - is it right one?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: can mushclient set a variable or alias from the command line?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: any hint on how? i've found some functions but they're not parsed by the mushclient itself
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: not from the command line, anyway
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Anyone else have issues with MIMO killing the wifi on a netgear modem/router combo?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I'll try pouring another cup of water on the modem... see if that does anything =P
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Putting it in the freezer is always a good last ditch effort
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: do I freeze it before or after the cup-o-water?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: lol you guys are awful
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: About three steps ahead of putting it on the fence and using a 12 gauge
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite bats his eyelashes innocently at Zarra.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Wut?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite enthusiastically high-fives Oak Tender Arnica!
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: you could call Tech Support - rofl
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: It's out of warranty... they just tell me to kick rocks :(
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Do not follow that advice.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: too late... already wearing the medical boot :(
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Darn. Because I could do that and never register the damage
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite comforts Oak Tender Arnica.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: So. Let us fix it. What precisely is the issue?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm having some plugin initialization difficulties with GMCP.  Is there a method to know when the GMCP plugin is configured and running?  I can watch for a GMCP broadcast, but that could take up to 30 seconds and I hate to delay my initialization that long.  If GMCP isn't initialized, it bombs if I call the gmcp() function.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: I flushed my hardrive down the toilet and now my computer stopped working
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I can check if the GMCP plugin is installed, but that isn't sufficient because it may be installed but not initialized
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Hammers work for that, and do not involve plumber's butts
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Durel, there's a command to force a gmcp update I think... I'd have to rip my plugin apart to get it for you... that'll cost you a TP =P
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: You are using LUA, or what?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: can I have a fireman fix it?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: yep, I'm using lua with mushclient -- sorry, should have mentioned that :P
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: that job's easy... a shirtless fireman will have no problem axing your toilet to pieces to get your hard drive.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: You have in the plugin require "gmcphelper" and require "var"?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: @Durel: I initialize gmcp and then force a GMCP update to avoid the error that you're encountering.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I am requiring "gmcphelper" but I'm not requiring "var".  I wasn't familiar with that one
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: OK, that's good to know.  I'll check into forcing the update and then delaying my initialization until I have confirmation from GMCP that it is alive
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I was hoping for a cleaner more general solution though...something like a GetPluginInfo option that tell me that a plugin is initialized.  Oh well :)
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: And you look for the GMCP handler with something like :    if (id == '3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264') then
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yep, I have the code to detect a GMCP broadcast and that works fine
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I like that you've opted to check into that yourself instead of paying me a TP to rip my code up and give it to you. That's hard to find nowadays.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite fluffles Durel's fur mercilessly.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Heh, I'm a bit sadistic that way :P  I'd rather play around and learn it myself
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Yes! Learn from modifying examples
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: But I think you mean masochistic
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: LOL, yes masochistic, not sadistic
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: unless you keep posting to tech when you don't get it. lol
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: strangling kittens will earn you the sadistic label...
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: A sadist and a masochist are walking down the street.  The masochist says "hurt me".  The sadist says "NO!" :P
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I have no kittens left
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: well then... you've earned your label.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: we're on fire here... next tech issue!
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: A sadist and a masochist are walking down the street. The sadist says Obey Me. The Masochist says No
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: OK, then. esxi/wmware keeps disconnecting sessions that are idle for more than a few minutes. How to resolve?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: did you try turning it on/off?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I did
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: wmware or vmware?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: vmware of course, silly
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: there has to be a setting for the idle timeout.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: next tech test - With RHEL 7.3 getpwuid fails, returns NULL. Comments?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: user/password combo incorrect?
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Two fails. Next Tech question.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: There goes Fatal FrostBite giggling again, and this time he's looking towards Oak Tender Arnica.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oak Tender Arnica sniggers quietly to himself, reflecting over an amusing thought.
T3/r7/2017-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: whats the best android antivirus for you?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: Hi .. I just did my remort and back to low levels. I find that my Bast Spellup doesn't work. It says I have not learned a spell, but it will be added anyway, it will not be cast until practised. But I have 85% on the spell.
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: any idea?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have you restarted mush after remorting ?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: nope.
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: .. Ok .. I go restart. I didn't know I have to do that. LOL
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or try reloading Bast's plugins
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: ok .. I will try. Thanks Trachx
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I *guess* that is just remember previous state
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phatnaru Tech: is there a way to assign movement to the arrow keys?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you need arrows ? or numpad is enought ?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phatnaru Tech: because of the way i play, the numpad serves best for me as aliases
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phatnaru Tech: I'm somewhat familiar with MUDclients, but have been away from them for a while
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need a plugin for that
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phatnaru Tech: know of any by any chance?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need to write one (pretty simple)
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then just add in its body: Accelerator ("Up", "look"); , Accelerator ("Left", "*smile"); 
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also you need to turn off up-arrow history : Game -> Configure -> Commands -> Keyboard preferences -> up arrow traverse history
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or just execute something like this: \\\Accelerator("Left", "say hello");
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phatnaru Tech: ok. 'I'm off to find a guide - a wonderful guide of OZ'
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just type that accelerator thing starting with \\\
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then press left arrow
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phatnaru Tech: lol, ok, will do. thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also use \\\Accelerator ("Right", "tech it's working!");
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: \\\ is script prefix, set in game->configure->scripting, it allows immediate execution whatever is after \\\
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so either just write a simple plugin with 4 accelerators Left/Right/Up/Down or just copy paste every time you need to use that
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess you could also define an alias in mush with send to script
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however it is quite hard to correct text you've entered
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean if you type and want to use left arrow to move back to previous character - it works then as accelerator, so will probably send "west" or whatever you accelerate with this
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phatnaru Tech: good point. I think i had a better idea
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phatnaru Tech: just gonna use wasd
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: why does my inventory show numbers like this: (M)(G)(H) Monkey Bone  [1853282228]<--this one  (159)
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: its owned?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: remove aardwolf_inventory_serials plugin
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: thats what causes id number to show up
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: ahh it's a plugin
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: DA Monster Tryllus nods at Murazor.
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: any other use for that plugin?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: no its for id serial numbers
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i removed it myself so
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: why does my putor get hot when im charging the battery?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: hi everybody 
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: just boguht my first mac and can't play aard wolf on it any solutions
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: https://www.winehq.org/
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: have you looked at wine for mac?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: sorry vi payer here do u mena windows
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: wine is a piece of software that will allow you to run windows software on mac or linuc machines
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Wine can be installed on a Mac, and it will enable you to run some windows applications on a mac, like mushclient
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: oka you spell it whin right?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: there are also many linux-based clients that would run natively, such as tinyfugue (what I'm using) and tintin++
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: wine, like wine you drink:)
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: but if you want to maintain the same mush-gui, then Wine is a good suggestion
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: okay i will look it up thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I play using MUSHClient, with a significant number of plugins, including my own. Recommendations for a keyboarded tablet that can do this?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Or one that can seamlessly RDP to my PC?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: half joking-half seriou: I'm pretty sure surface pro covers both scenarios :)
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I was afraid of that. lol
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: well, you can remote desktop with pretty much any tablet
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: It has not worked so well with my wife's iPad
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: but that would be a huge waste, for muding, considering the RDP data transfers compared to mud communication
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: pound not doing too well
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: sorry, but I don't consider ipad a tablet :D or mobile iOS an operating system :p
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Concur
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: What success with Android based tablets and RDP?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: you can find windows 10 home tablets (atom based) with very decent prices
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I have no idea about build quality, all my tablet experiences were rather shitty from that perspective
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: one of the reasons I love my Ativ notebook :)
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Holy Cow, you can spend $3K on a Surface? Insane
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I am a $500 kind of guy, and I expect extreme performance for my $
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: pro3 is the previous generation. I think it goes for ~700 bucks around here, taxes included
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: keyboard sucks though, I think
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: and one USB port?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I'm still waiting for the phone that'll replace my pc, with docks at home and at work
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NotGod Pleiades grins evilly at Liber.
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: can you have an alias call to another alias?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pisces Tech: Not mud-side, no.
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lord Azaghal Tech: in mush?
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: use, change send to to execute
T3/r7/2017-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: oops  mean yes, fingers on strike
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Firesky Tech: Does the community haev a sound package for game? I notice mushclient has a option to add.
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: someone made a package before, it's probably floating around somewhere on google
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: finger winklewinkle, he has a sound package + script
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Firesky Tech: Yes, looking into it now. It would really fun to have it.
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Firesky Tech: Shaelynne Thanks. I will.
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: on mushclient Is there a way to have two different communtication windows?
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: look at https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Communication-log-window
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: Thanks Kippe
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: it is somewhere near the bottom
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: Found it Kippe!  I forgot I needed to generate an unique key.  Thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is there an easy way to get your username programatically in mushclient?  Yes, I could use "whois self" or "score" and pull out the info, but then you need to mess with pre-titles.  I'm hoping that there is some other command I'm missing.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: What for?
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: there is a login option somehwere in there i did mine
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm working on a plugin and I have different state based on your character.  I want to load the appropriate saved data based on which character is logged in.
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Well, you can capture that when logging in
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: You can also probably get that thru gmcp, but I do not have the code for that, from the top of my head
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Doh!  Of course.  GMCP.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I can't believe I didn't think about that.  I fought with GMCP all day Saturday :P
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Also maybe get it from 'finger'
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yep, what I want is in char.base of GMCP.  Thanks everyone!
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: any one that can please help me with a modify button on blowtorch? 
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: abelinc
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: all  though he's lil dickish but may help
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: thanks :) 
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: welcome to tech, khaleesi!
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: hey pizza bitch whats up
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: pizza ftw
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: why dont u swing on over to my neighborhood so i can kick yo asz
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: what neighborhood?
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: where i live
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I can honestly say no, I've never wished for a Java mud client.
T3/r7/2017-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: need a html5 client with colors
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arvos Tech: any idea how you override a mushclient alias?  For example, if "recall" is aliased to 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arvos Tech: aliased to "cast word of recall" in mushclient how to use the recall command without disabling said alias?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arvos Tech: I could have sworn there was a way to do it and it was something like ".recall"
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: how do i use the alias inputs in mushclient  as part of the output as well?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: newbie say i make an alias input with this input "update *" and output "remove *" "keep *" "wear *", i want to use the input wildcard to do stuff with it
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: sorry i have bad habit of always writing newbie when i chat lol
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blannor Tech: sounds like you want a variable, dont know if mushclient supports them though
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: i see options for variables, but there is no example of using one on the page i'm looking at with trigger examples, maybe i'll have to look up alias then
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: anyone have wifi problems after latest windows 10 update in july-ish (forced upon me)? i can't reach a bunch of websites randomly and connection junks out pretty frequently if i try to surf web. strangely, if I just mud it seems pretty stable
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: no. I'm not encountering any issues like that. I'm using win 10 here. could it be your router, perhaps?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: nope, wifi has been fine for me both on creators updated and recent updates and even fast track updates. Try re-installing the wifi driver or test on another computer/device
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: thanks will try and reinstall driver
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: which versions of Win 10
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: it's even hanging up my browsers, can't get them to close etc
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: windows 10 home 64 bit
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: only issue I have on 1 computer with win 10 is that MS Edge is crashy as heck. Chrome, Vivaldi, etc work fine though so no real loss there :p
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Murazor's Win10 may be different to Torkin's Win10
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: I'm running Pro 64bit
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: yep, the "Home Win10" may be a piece of crap compared to the "Pro Win10"
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: they run the exact same kernel, upgrade path, drivers, etc.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: who knows if there's any real difference under the hood though.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: also the users of "Pro Win10" are more likely using hardware that Win10 likes, as different to the hardware used by "Home Win10" users
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: in mushclient is there a wait or pause that can be inserted into a trigger or alias?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: If you set your output to script and program your trigger or alias in lua. You definitely can. No idea with normal output
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: so far I haven't done that as its a simple movement, but the mapper alias is processing before the check finishes so its always failing to move.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: there is a wait command for cexits and checking cexits
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: yeah, for cexit you can use wait(time_in_seconds)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: yeah, I have used that one.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: and it's not waiting?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: for that it does
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: need the wait for where something is/run to it/attack it
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: yeah, I think you'll have to go into scripting for that. Atleast thats how I do it. I don't think there is a wait command for normal output.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: and thats fair, I kind of figured that but wanted to double check
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: just trying to get lazy on xping and get it down to a keystroke per mob
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: in that case, please note that having run commands and a kill command in the same alias (or trigger, or cexit....) is agains policies...
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: well I guess that makes it easier then
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Just Bought a Geforce 1080 OC :DDDDDD
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: overkill!
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: 4K aardwolf =DDD
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: smile Wire
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: or preparing for destiny 2
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: costly or cheap
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Why cant I drag Mush windows and plugins past middle to right of screen on 1080P yhough?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: you mean on two monitors?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Running desktop prtformance rating atm, its syill on default with my 1050, nope one 40 inch tv
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: omfg, it shows 2.1 in pc aera rating???
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: aero
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: drivers probably
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Let me check >_<
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Every thing is supe slow when i drag it
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a smaller 1080p monitor is better, may look at whole screen without turning head to look side to side
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: agreed I don't do FPS on bigger than 20 inch screen :D
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: - 5
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: - 5
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: - h5
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: -6
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: lmao Im so happy, I installed the Gigabyte OC Guru II and bypassd the drives, how could i missed that! its fine now, and first game I entered is aard obviously lol
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Also purchased a backlit Scorpin rainbow colour gaming keyaord, so sweet. And an expensive D-link 4g dongle. Life is good =)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Well not expensive dobgle, but the best they have
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: My internet is so fast as a lamborghine =)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jus Tech: 300 kb/s ?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: OK, I get 7.9 ratingnow ehn i run win 7 performance check
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: btw Kallaz, 40 inch is just right for 1080p gaming on my 1080 OC, I stil need to play a game to check its performance, but i think i can play any game at that low 1080p max detail and anti analising with no problem at 150 fps
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: IS kiddy =)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I switched to edge aka 2G connection atm, bcause is a matter of seconds my internet hogged about 50megs of updates >_M<
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Mostly due to geforce stuff, grr
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: 40 inch is great, I just like smaller for FPS so I can see the whole screen without moving
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Kallaz - Nods If you sit about 1.5 meters from the screen its just OK, I mean the distance from your eyeballs
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im using atm New cpurier size 12 as a font here
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: yeah my controller and headset both keep me closer than that, and I haven't done PC gaming in a while but that used to be <18 inches
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: so in the last 10  minutes i only used 10k kbs, whee
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I only bought 200megs of data today, so that 50megs made a dent, next up I wann buy satelite internet with ulim ca
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I deleted that Geforece Experience that hogged data. I just wished win firewall wasnt so lame, it let connections through
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: OK, back to aard gaming, I can test my pc games out later when i tiers =)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: ty all
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Edge aka 2G is pretty fast imo, im sticking with it for a few days, henche im scared when i switch to 3g or lte it may depelte all my data, and if that happens at night and didnt but more data, im screwred
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there is a lag with satellite internet
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: latency*
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there is a latency lag with satellite internet
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Latency != lag
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Latency is time to response, lag is overburdened servers
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Bought a new geforce 1080 OC and a Neon LED gaming keyboard and a super fast internet dongle =))
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: oops miss
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: lag is any unwanted delay
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: And there's ALWAYS more latency using a donle vs a hard wired connection.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Lag is minor prolly with satelite... You can still download uncapped
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Latency is NOT minor :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Depends on weather
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: you mean ping :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Ping google, it'll be massively slower than anyone else's response time
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: ping == latency
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: huge latency in fps games with others - you sitting deadmeat duck 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Your ping is a direct representation of your latency
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale drops to the floor and hails No Offense Cheezburger!
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Nah oall fps games
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yes, all FPS games
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: not all
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Any reactionary game. Rocket LEague, Overwatch, PUBG, etc
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: No dude, you can play Counter strike 1.6 on and 3g dongle lag free
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: As someone world ranked in RL, i can tell you for a fact that latency matters A TON
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im ranked also irl, sponsored by redbull
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: no you can't. That's called "compensation", where the server decides to screw everyone over to reach the lowest common denominator (your latency)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Principium Tech: Ok here is where I call bullshit :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's why you can get shot through walls :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: bullcaca* lets keep it PG :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: hehe, ak 47 shoot so easily through walls
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Principium Tech: Sorry, I'm just allergic you know. :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: But anyone who claims that they can competitively play ANY competitive game via 3g....well, I challenge you to a duel :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: tHERE IS SO MANY cheats on CS servers, like wallhack and speed hack
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'm not denying that...I'm just saying latency is a factor
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Hey my man Cheeze, im refering to back in 2004 :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: ALWAYS
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Well no shit...in 2004 3g would be faster than DSL
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's not the case these days, or even remotely
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Principium Tech: caca*
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Right right, my bad. caca
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: i'm such a hypocrite now
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: hehehe
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Principium Tech: You made my evening. :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Here to serve.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale highfives you passionatley
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the distance to the satellite (both directions) divided by the speed of light, is slow, compared to undersea fibreoptics om planet earth
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Well...satellite signals don't move at the speed of light....
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Fiber optics do, satellite travels in waves, so it's determined by the wave frequency and the medium it's travelling in (high atmosphere, low atmosphere, no atmosphere)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Erm.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: wave frequency does not change the speed of light
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Ummm....duh?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Radio waves in atmosphere travel near enough the speed of light as no matter.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Why do I opt for satelite internet,? its like 1000 rand, like 74 $ for the dish and installaiotion and a puny 19$ per month for uncapped internet
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: The velocity factor in fiber optic cable is more like .66.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and there is very little atmosphere in outer space
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The wave would have to go through all three type of atmosphere i listed...
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Doesn't matter.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I forgot how selective you read Xylix
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: The distance still kills you.  You're going to be getting close to a second of round trip time with satellite no matter what.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: my Geforce 1080 OC cost 9000 rand and when i convert it to yall dolars its 666$
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: But I highly suspect you USA folks pay less for pc ware
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Distance always kills. Connecting to an eastern european or asian server in the US can also hit nearly a second.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: In south africa its go to go store, you will find prices flactuate wildy
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the distance through the atmosphere is near negligible compared to the distance through the vacuum of outerspace to the satellite
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Singapore got the best ping i think
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: typical latency for satellite is between 240 and 280 ms, fiber from NY to Sydney would in theory be minimum 90 ms when goind in a stright line :)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Or some asain server after Swede
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: No connection to the other side of the planet happens without hops :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I got my info wrongmost prolly
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Heard it on tech t to far ago
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 240ms -- low orbiting satellites
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shavrendil Tech: Why are you even considering atmosphere? It only slows down the signals by about 0.05%. Fiber is way slower, about 20-30% less than vacuum.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's IMPOSSIBLE to competetively game with
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: If i see 60+ms, it's noticeable
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Satellite internet is going to be geosync.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: 100+ is unplayable, and 200+ is murder time
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Bsck in 2002, 3g wsnt suited for quake 3 online gaming, untill 2006/7 when we got 1meg/ps internet then only quake 3 ran lag free
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: That's 250ms up and back.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: But you're gonna need packets coming back too, so that's half a second right there, before you cound any other net.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: 250ms in rocket league you would be constantly hitting where the ball was...
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: How can I test my ping right about now without spending 5meg data ?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: "ping google.com" let one packet leave and come back, kill the ping
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: or "ping 8.8.8.8" if you want to bypass the DNS
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale thanks No Offense Cheezburger heartily.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: even if you dont kill the ping, doenst is stop at 5 packets automatically?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Not on windows
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Can I use it via Opera mini though
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Can I use it via Opera mini though
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: put -t after it
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: i think it's continuous
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Opera mini? Wtf is that?!
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Windows it's 4 or 5 without argument but you can put -t and it'll make it continuous
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Oh then I reversed it. Linux is continuous by default
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: The second best browser after UC web??
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's not a browser command
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it's a CMD command
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I dont touch internet explorer from win 7 though
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: webbased: http://www.ipaddressguide.com/ping
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: win+r, cmd, enter, ping 8.8.8.8, enter
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: My browsers is compressed data
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: limited data rememer
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Ping is so small it won't matter
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: cool
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it's literally 64 bytes of data per ping
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: dns told me size doesnt matter :(
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: Abelinc told me size does matter :(
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: If 64 bytes of data will put you over, then Aard just took all of that 20 seconds from now
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im so happy we all are clever/nerds/geeks
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: wtfreak is the Geforce 3D vision?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: 3d monitor support IIRC
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: So no support for 3D goggles making desktop 2d enviroment 3D?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Google tells me it's stereoscopic imaging
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale thanks No Offense Cheezburger heartily.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 3d blu-ray is a joke -- the rural shops stock what sells and don't bother to stock 3d blu-ray players - so 3d is mostly dead (unless ordered from the intenet)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: does anyone know of a windows programm that will display what raw (hex or bin) keystroke is sent from a certain USB port?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: No, 3d is mostly dead. hard stop.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: AutoHotkey might
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I use Autohotkey :D
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: atm in time, the 5,.1 Dolby Sony surround hooked up to my pc is attequite, hile its not mind numbing hard i would love more
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Its a live home thaert sys
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I understood some of those words...
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I want to make my MAN cave windows rattle
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Car sound is the only option imo
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Ugh, that just creates destructive resonance
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: And makes it sound like poopoo
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Nah, quality goods and knowhow to setup fgz
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I mean to set it up like hearing distance
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Oh you mean when converting casr sound to home usage
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: set aside some cash for the hearing-aid you may require later
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: After 12 years I dont get hearing loss
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Hearing loss is so subtle you'd never know until you put in a hearing aid and discovered what you'd been missing
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if you believe digital music sounds better than analog music, you're already deaf 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I was tsted in a closeout booth for my job currenlty, no problems there....
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: analog lol
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That old saying "You don't know what you have until it's gone" can easily be reversed to "You don't know what you're missing, until you're not missing it anymore"
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I dont listen to headphones, those are the umber one killer in ear loss
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I didn't realize how bad my eyes had gotten from writing code 8+ hours a day, 5 days a week, for 15 years. Until I went and got an eye exam
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: So obviosly listening irl not to close to big ass subs wont do that much harm
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's not true
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: hmm, then im mistaken
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I guess age have play a big part, im still young aka 30
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Any sounds over (i wanna say 120 decibels) cause the celia (ear hairs) to die. They are what's responsible for "hearing" and relaying it to the ear drum.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'm 26 :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Age is a factor, but not the only one
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: omfg, you are like DR.phill to me, so old and smart
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale pats No Offense Cheezburger on his head.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: look it  up but even exposure to 90dB + over extended time can cause damage
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Is it 90...heh, I was giving you more room than I should have :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: 90 is equivalent to a lawn mower, right?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Googlle it dwg, but the increments go up wldy at 90
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I mean  a 747 is 130?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Probably
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: a chainsaw is 120
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I think a vaccuum cleaner is already like 50
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Here in my small town at the WV club,most they could get out of competitors cars is 156 db...
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: According to google a vaccuum is 70
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Its takes allot of hard ware to actually beat it by 5db
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: The curve is at 240db
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: So difficult to gain more, much like decreasing return aka mastery
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: 140db*
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: 140db*
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the decibel system is logarythmic 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Xyliz -What is a five track?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Right up your alley
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I heard its good like your analog
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I get its a smaller size LP, but still
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: You cant eat nowadyas digital bitrate
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: beat lol
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: OK, I prolly must go tier and talk less crap
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some expensive reel-to-reel tape-recorders of the 1980s were able to record multiple analog tracks in the same direction
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: then digital came and killed music
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what you are listening to these days is digital noise
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Only reason why you can vouch for Analog is when you did tests on side by side devices... Do tell me you did this or is suckking it fom the thumb
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im not disputing your facts, only want to be enlightnent from its source and facts
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: side-by-side comparisons are deceptive. and do not illustrate the reasons that digital music is defective crap.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Analog is able to do something that digital is unable to replicate
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: And your hearing % per ear is different to anothers, did you take that in account
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: sound fuzzy?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The only difference is that Analog is lossless (truly lossless)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Whereas all digital means (even the lossless ones) lose some of the channels.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: virable bitrate ftw
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Lossless??  As in entropy doesn't exist?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: duh imo
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Well ... "essentially lossless", everything moves towards Entropy over time
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: I have led zeppeling 1 through 4 on SACD which is sourced from the Reel to Reel. 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: it "sounds" better mostly because it didn't get butchered by an "audio engineer" doing their "mixing"
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if you were brough up on digital moise, you are likely not hardwired to discern what analog provides and digital doesn't -- and you've also been brainwashed with lies from the digital music industry.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: I wasn't
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: No sound beats the voives in my head.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the digital music industry is very aware that digital is inferior to analog, but they are not going to tell you that -- they are going to tell you lies so you spend your money on digital crap
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: that depends on resolution
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: just like analog and digital photography
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (whole wheat bread versus refined white flour bread)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: bitrate*
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: #fakenews
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'm gonna bodyslam you, CNN
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: since both digital and analog tv images are pixelised, digital video is able to look better than analog video these days
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: you should rather compare digital cinema to analog one
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: as TV is just a device with limited resolution
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (apples and oranges are different)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: there is not difference between digital and video tv - as long as you use same resolution for both
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: video and sound are vastly different  (analog sound is not pixelised)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: but there is still difference between analog and digital photo, though comparing that a film has limited grain - it is like limited ccd sensor resolution
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: sound is also incredibly subjective. Inherently more so than video
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: for sound - you are also limited with speakers - as they also have limited resolution
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: only live sound could be considered "perfect", but then your ear is also limited
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: so digital sound wins just because it is more profitable - you can easily reproduce songs and sell them
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: vinyl records are quite expensive comparing to mp3 (no physical medium)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: digital wins because most people don't want fuzzy, "warm", "colourful" sounding music because they're ears aren't failing them 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: their*
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: I am ashamed of that grammatical mistake 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: listeners of digital sound are losers because digital is more profitable (when listeners believe the lies told by the digital music industry)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: I get most of my music in 24bit flac. that's pretty much good enough for my ears and audio equipment. For analog to digital recordings it's mostly SACDs
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: when I'm feeling nostalgic I'll run some vinyl's
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: digital music is actually painful to listen to when the mind detects that the digital music is not supplying that which analog music supplies
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: at least that's what you tell yourself. 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: pretty sure you'd fail a double blind listening test 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: you also do realize that the audio mix for vinyl's tend to be different from those mastered to CD.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: because in that sense I'd 100% agree that the mastering onto CD is complete shite compared to vinyl
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: but that has nothing common with digital/audion encoding, just some people decided that it is more "modern" or "cool" when you distort sound in some way
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: people always say that, but when put up to double blind listening tests can't tell the original analog vs. digitally encoding lossless format (heck most people can't even tell the difference with a lossy encode)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Stil on sound quality lol
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: sound chat is always one of those massive rabbit holes
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: unless you have analog from record player to speaker you're fooling yourself in believing vinyl is better 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: vinyl isn't better. It's a piss poor medium for storing audio
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: but I would also make the argument that the audio mixing that goes INTO a vinly recording tends to be superior to the CD versions
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: likely requires training to recognise what repeated recorded analog music supplies and repeated recorded digital music does not supply (and causes mental pain in the not supplying)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: but that's mostly from an audio compression perspective where the audio "engineer" just collapses all the dynamic range and farts out the track
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: you are looking in the wrong places
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: what you just wrote borders on bat crap crazy :)..
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: analog music supplies detail which digital music is unable to supply
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: not true
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: sure, if you think the fuzziness and noise floor of analog recordings is actually something you like/want to hear.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: unless you mean analog "live" music - then yes, as d/a converted are limited whether you use 48, 96, or 1024 bit one
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: it might sound subjectively better to you, which is fine. different strokes for different folks. 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: vinyl as analog is as good as good is your needle and piezo
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: but unless you're sitting there with multiple mics picking up the sound from a live event , you're not getting that in the VAST majority of "analog" material you may own.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but if you are brainwashed and indoctrinated with the lies told by the pedantic parrots of the digital music industry, you are likely going to disregard the truth
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: The thing tha matters atm, do you actually have the sound system powerfull enough, to draw the listening pleasure
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: dont go listening with earbuds
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: xyliz: saying the same stuff over and over again doesn't make for an arguement
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: you are obviously not comprehending what was typed:
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: analog music supplies ***DETAILS*** which digital music is unable to supply
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Xyliz: do you know how do they manufacture vinyls? I guess you could consider that only perfect way is using the same method that Edison used to record merry-go-round, but even that was limited resolution
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: explain to me these details.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is no analog musig unless you listen to unplugged live performance
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: because like trachx and I have said, unless you have live recordings of things that haven't gone through an a/d coversion, you're entire argument falls flat
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: all "analog" music nowadays is processed by some d/a converters and then it is stored on some "analog" medium like vinyl
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: if you think 99,99999999% is "all", then yes
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: 99.9999999999 = 100 :D
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: until you realise the fact: "analog music supplies DETAILS which digital music is unable to supply", you are barking up the wrong trees 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what details? paper sticker with price?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: alright, good to know I can ignore you now
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: attempt to refute that fact: "analog music supplies DETAILS which digital music is unable to supply". (bark up that tree)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: extremely difficult to deprogram religious zealots
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: some people claim they are able to distinguish between audiophile gold plated power cable and just ordinary power cable, they forgot that power plant is not noiseless and that between them and power plant there are xxx km of wire
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: And I told you, that yes there are more details in analog recordings. No one has argued against that. But with that comes a MUCH higher noise floor, loss of some clarity, etc. All of this being well in the "subjective" realms of thigs
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: analog quality is similar myth as that you can touch anything with your finger (which is impossible, because if your hand is 1 meter from an object, then you can divide that distance by two, then again divide new distance by two and so - you never get to perfect 0 distance)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: i've heard some digital zealots swear that a one track digital pressing of digital music sounds better than a multi-track copy of that digital pressing -- but digital is digital - nope they say, a commercial one-track pressing sounds better than a pc-burned copy
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: your ear has limited resolution, you cannot hear 1hz or 540khz, so you cannot receive analog music
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: explain on track pressing , vs multi-track pressing as well as pc-burned. I'm curious to see what you mean by these terms.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "more details with some noise" is vastly superior to "few details with no noise" 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Xyliz you're still missing a point: there is no difference between analog and digital that you can perceive, however if you compare "Nothing else matters" recorded by XXX records to YYY records, then yes - those can sound different , but not because of medium digital/analog 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (whole wheat bread is vastly superior to refined white flour bread)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Trachx you are dead wrong if you bet your life on that -- some humans are able to perceive a difference between the analog and digital recordings of the same music
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but not everybody is a Xyliz
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: can you perceive a difference betweend digital sound stored on analog medium vs the same original digital sound?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sure you can, that means that analog distorted original sound source
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: qed, analog is inferior quality comparing to digital
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: most of the tests are "can you say which is which" i've seen. not "which you like more".
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: problem is that if I use 4-bit color then you can easily distinguish it from 32-bit color, right ?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyone can do that, now if you get 4-bit slow sound a/d converter - then sure you will hear a difference
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: question is: can you digitize analog sound and play it so nobody will be able to distinguish it from analog ?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes you can, just use high quality fast a/d and d/a converter
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: i mean, i can never say why something audible is better, hence i couldn't point to the right device. so the tests are not working that way at all. speaking about ignorant joes here.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: sry i'm no audiophile but with enough resolution can't you just use digital? analog isn't magic, it has its own limitatons and resolution
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: same as with enough pixels you get life life picture, you can get life like sound with digital with enough resolution
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: digital music is a sampling process that throws away lots of detail, and modifies a lot of the remaining detail
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: digitisation of music results in differences that are definitely discernable to the trained ear.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: why would you have to throw details away? that is entirely up to the bitrate or the resolution of it
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: please record a double blind test of you picking out analog vs digtal of the same recording. please and thank you
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: Murazor- that test is flawed
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: I'll consider you godlike if you can guess 10/20 :)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: mathematical-theory backs up the contention that there is more detail in analog music than in digital music (of the same music)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: its for "specialists"
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: mathematical theory? which one?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Xyliz are you saying analog is magic and doesn't have limitations? it is even though reality as we know it is made up of higher dimensional "pixels" why would analog audio be any different?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Xyliz can you touch your nose with your finger? (I've proved *mathematically* previously you cannot do that - as you can always divide remaining distance by 2 and never reach 0 distance)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: you've literally not answered one pointed question. you just wave your hands and go MAGIC DETAILS WOOOWEEOOOO
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: i'd really like to know which math theory you're talking about.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: I don't think Zeno's paradox really applies to this conversation.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: this universe has a minimal distance which is the planck length, audio follows that as well and with planck length you can construct higher dimensional pixels of reality, the analog sound will be chopped up into pieces eventually, there is no smooth curves, it is all pixels, or pixels the size of planck length
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: btw. lets take a perfect saw waveform - if that would be pressed 100% to vinyl, the machine couldnt play it back. it'd be impossible.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostLeader Tech: lok wrong channel
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost introduces little known facts about Quantum Theory, you concede that he's right.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: i mean - look: http://www.joelstrait.com/nanosynth_create_sound_with_ruby/saw.png
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: This theory of higher dimensional pixels is one reason some people think reality is a simulation, the same idea of pixels on a screen making the virtual world not real, reality could not be real because we see these higher dimensonal pixels, why is planck length the smallest distance? that could just be the limitation of the simulation running reality, i'm not entirely sure reality is a simulation though. It is just a theory.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: if that was on vinyl, how the hell could the nail follow the thing. its just not possible
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you cannot check whether you live in reality or just a simulation, at least as long there are no flaws in that simulation 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: Robbo is a flaw
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: we're actually living in hologram
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is that hologram exploitable in some way? if no then there is no difference whether we are just dreaming, living in matrix or hologram
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: there is a way, but it's above my pay grade :p
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I am a brain in a jar and you are figments of my imagination
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: to begin "training" to recognise the detail differences between analog and digital requires (finding) a suitable identical song (multiply listened to and memorised) in analog and (then much later listened to in) digital
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: SuperTramp "Child of Vision" (from the album "Breakfast in America")
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: you need to record the same playing, one with analog and one with digital and then compare
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: no convertion
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: listen to the sax (in the background) of both the analog and in digital versions - huge difference
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: obviously there are songs that are better in analog or digital, but that is just one example, if we put forth a song that sounds better in digital would you accept that digital "is better"? no you wouldn't
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: hm. average person can say "better or worse". not too much about the details. im above average (because -been failing with mixing my recordings quite a lot) but still cant say why exactly this or that sounds better.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: i mean, hm. eh. you cant ask a b and point to the right device. really.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: that example only works if the analog and digital are a) sourced from the same recording b) mastered the same way c) mixed the same way.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: with VERY high chance that they are NOT.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: SuperTramp "Child of Vision" (album "Breakfast in America") - the original vinyl album transfered to highest-quality analog cassette tape, and the commercial CD of the same album
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: and I say this as an electrical engineer of 40 years, with about 15 years of exeperience in audio production
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: well duh, the viynl is a differnt mastering and mixing of course it'll sound different.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: vinyl*
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: it's the same thing as led zeppelin iv. There are 4 or 5 known masters and they all sounds VERY different, right down to the stereo panning. with the SACD being the closest thing to listening to it on an original reel to reel
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: after 3 hours, stil on the sound quaity subjecs
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: I'll let you know when we hit 24
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the CD is unable to replicate in full detail the background sax -- the sax detail fades in and out of detail drowned out by louder sounds
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: yes becase they have decide who wins 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: they have to do it today!
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: it's not the CD Xyliz, it's the fact that the entire CD is mastered differently.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Xyliz will win, obviosly, duhhh ?! Man vs Android
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: You can try as a human player, but you will fail misserably. Better and go and play this actual game and gin rank
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in the analog version on the cassette tape (preserve the vinyl), the sax detail is there even amidst the louder music, and the sax detail is scrumptious
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there are other examples
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: vinyl recordings, for the most part , tend to be mastered from a different source (usually ones that hasn't been messed with by "audio engineers" much). They aren't compressed at all leaving the dynamic range fully intact. Heck you can even see the same happening between DIGITAL records. Metallica's album that came out a few years ago had different masters for guitar hero or whatever it was vs. the cd version.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Xyliz: if you mean that your analog version recorded and processed by Y differs from digital version by X , then sure they differ
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: yeah that's nothing new and or interesting.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Xyliz: but then your semi-perfect analog version differs from live version
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: that's been a known thing for a long time.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: or a known unknown....
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "The Golden Voice of Nat King Cole" on vinyl and analog cassette, is no longer "Golden" in digital.  Digital is unable to replicate the golden tones of the voice of Nat King Cole.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: does that analog resemble unplugged live performance?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: great, looks like i lost electricity for a second, the lamp flickered and lost internet connection, i swear this piece of appartments are a bit horrible, electricity and stability wise.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: for those still playing along at home, the metallic album was death magnetic.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: studio recorded
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: how long can a computer run without power from the cord?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have they useed some piezo converters to convert waver sounds into electric impulses ?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: fractions of a second
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: unless your on a UPS 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz dislikes "live concerts" - too much audience noise
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: my halogen lightbulb detected it i think, and my internet connection took a couple minutes to reconnect
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: i never liked live recordings:) 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Metis usually switch or router requires some time to boot up
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: my computer ran as always though :) (almost posted to wrong chat again!)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: time to go home, i'm sure we can continue this when i get home in an hour or two
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Beach Boys CD music are reminiscent of a harsh tinny-metal sound - the digitisation is almost painful to hear.  The vinyl versions are "Classic".
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but they are different from original live performance
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some audiophile vinyl records sound "slick" and do not sound as good as the ordinary version vinyl records 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you may like better "classic" version because the way it was processed suits you more, but is different from live performance (even if you could go to studio and listen it when it was recorded)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: whether analog or digital - you are not listening to original sound, you are listening to *processed* sound
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: Yeah, if i doesn't like the sound of live, he likes the special effects of analog vinyl or something, over natural sound and that is a bit odd.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: if he doesn't like
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: most of the music prefered by Xyliz is "Studio recorded", not the "live crap" spoiled by the audience sounds
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you just like analog distorion
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: you can get that with digital processing, you can get the vinyl sound as well
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: analog already comes with some noise -- the audience noise is disliked
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with high quality vinyl transferred to highest quality Maxell CR02 cassette, played on high quality cassette playback system, the noise is minimal and negligible
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: high quality vinyl is different from unprocessed studio sound
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: This audio discussion is bias confirming and not objective, lets just move on, we like what we like because we like it, not because one is objectively better than the other in everyway, there is analog crowd that swears by analog but may very well be fooled by digital sound that emulates analog effects and say how good it is
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Xyliz you just do like more analog effects done by XXX recording studio, YYY digital studio prefers to add other effects not because digital cannot sound like analog, but because they chose to do so
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in the 1980s, purchased a top of the line cassette recorder and playback player aka Ghetto Blaster (at least $600), and used the best Maxell cassettes avalable (and there is a noticeable difference in transferred sound between the highest quality blank cassette and the next cheaper version blank cassette)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: that is almost 40 year old technology (if it was brand new when you bought it)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: why would that still apply today? thats 40years+!
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that proves that sound engineers that constructed your ghetto blaster just liked some kind of audio processing
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or they just bought some cheap parts so they could profit more
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: i think beyond intentional analog effects, it is probably just placebo
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so called "clear", "bass", "rock", "whatever you like" - that is some kind of audio processing
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: electric impulses just go through a lot of elements like resistors, capacitors, transistors and are more or less distorted
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the music *depth* of *detail* and *truth consistency* of studio recorded music is what is supplied by analog. No digital lies, no lossy with analog, only truth (with S/N ratio of negligible noise)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you connect mic - a/d converter - d/a converter - speaker or mic - speaker --- you cannot hear any difference as long as a/d and d/a resolution is higher than your ear
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you mean that a/d and then d/a conversion can sound terrible - then you're right, it can sound terrible
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Digital music is a sampled approximation - mendacious lying falsity - not the truth
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: not because it is digital or analog feature - it is because somebody have chosen so
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you are not able to distinguish approximated sound from non approximated sound - unless you use cheap slow a/d and d/a conversion
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have black and white paints you cannot paint green grass to look like a green grass, right ?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: as soon as sound goes digital, something is lost, and there is no regaining that which was lost by the digitisation of analog
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: analog won't survive anyways, it isn't able to be replicated or duplicated, you can dupe digital recording
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as soon as sound enters analog microphone - something is lost
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: the reason we just digital is because how well it replicates and can be copied, analog is shit in that compartment, lossless is best
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are no lossless microphones - neither analog nor digital
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (as soon as whole wheat is refined into white flour, nutrients are lost, and there is no regaining of the those nutrients even in pill form) (but white flour is clean!)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: that is true but refined flour is easier to digest and we get more nutrients on a smaller volume
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: one simple example: this letter "a" was entered by analog way , now this letter "a" was entered by digital way (copy-paste), do you see any difference between "a" and "a" ?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: In the end, you get much more nutrients by cooking rather than eating raw
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: there is no analog "a" the computer is digital
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: your analog "a" would be a little of every other letter possible, a bit of a blur, a digital "a" is precise and 100% an "a" and nothing else
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the south USA used to refine corn, and many of the poor died as a result from the resulting nutritional deficiencies
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well , maybe "a" is digital - but I entered it analog by pressing key
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: no, your key is digital it is 1 or 0
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: my key is black! (because white paint has used up)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in 1980 to 1985, analog music was at its peak in terms of technology. Then digital arrived and murdered music. 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: analog is old tech, until eventually we can make full use of it because in theory, analog packs a lot more information, we just don't have precise enough machines to copy it perfectly every time
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: the thing is though, even though analog can pack more information, you can just send digital information faster and reach the same result or better with digital
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: analog music is attempting to make a comeback, but not too sure the current comeback technology is even remotely as good as the 1980s technology
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: same theory applies to old cables for sending information, they used to be huge in computers, even though they had like 16+ lines of information, in theory 16+ times faster, they ended up a lot slower than todays 1 in/out line of USB cables that just sends information in 1 line, but extremely fast, zeroes or ones, 10101001010, no queue times, and perfect every time
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: top of the line analog music technology used to be super-expensive
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: marketoids now try to sell you analog because it is "better", "losless", "cool", "classic"
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: well can't digital be lossess as well? the initial recording done in digital?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: whether analog or digital - you never get an original studio sound, you always get it processed in some way
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and lossless is just very vague term - if I can see only black and white - then using grayscale to encode 32-bit color image is still lossless
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: True, but the less loss over an huge amount of copies the better, if you copy analog on an analog of an analog of an analog, the sound will be terrible no? digital is precise instructions, analog is a blur
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: more honest down-to-earth consistent full truthful and nutritious detail -- ANALOG! 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so digital is lossless as far as it proveides more accuracy than you are able to perceive
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: yes, if you can record in digital, it should be entirely lossless
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there is a hidden noise in digital - the difference between the true analog and the digital 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if your ear is able to hear 20hz-20khz then even if original sound was in range 1hz-30khz and digital recorded was limited to 20hz-20khz - it is still "losless" comparing to listening live
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: always, especially if you have measures to ensure that the hardware that keeps the digital information doesn't mutate, you can compare check sums etc to confirm its perfection, though in theory it looks to be impossible to be 100% sure no mutations in information occurs over a huge amount of time
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is no hidden noise in digital, *unless* somebody (audion engineer) has added it
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: the true analog is due to analog recording, if you drop analog all together and use digital on the first step, it is lossless, unless random mutations over a large amount of time (quantum probability etc)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and they add noise / distort original sound - because they think people will prefer such processed sound; that applies both to analog and digital records
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: is there not digital microphones? must it be analog tech? i'm no expert after all
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: live sound is analog, so you need to convert analog to digital
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Still on the Analog ?!
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: speakers are also digital (till direct brain connection is invented) so there is a conversion d/a
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps the body is able to discern the beat-differences between the higher frequency sounds, example: a 17kHz and a 18kHz produce a 1kHz beat-difference
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: whenever conversion (analog - analog or analog - digital - analog) occurs - there is always loss of a signal
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I think most speakers are entirely analog
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: the sound card does the conversion for the speakers
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: iT DEPENDS PURELY ON USER  to user, omfg duh, you can have the ear repsonse of a chusrce mouse or... a sex cybatron in heat
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: yes it is the conversion that causes the loss, or just copying analog, at least with digital you can make a huge amount of copies without mutation
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Xylize check your speakers specs, it is probably unable to reproduce 1hz nor 33khz sounds
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the drum and cymbals produce a "wash" which is there in analog but removed or absent in digital
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so stop using imperfect speakers to listen imperfect analog recordings
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: record analog then play it out, then record that playback and record that, then play that out and record that and you will see how much loss there is with analog
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: what is the command to lock/unlock window position in mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: You can debate all you want, But untill you all sit around the devices in question, and et rated by an indepented jusge/judges you are screwed atm... DUH
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: i'm fairly sure they have already done that a thousand times already, people are still debating
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: vinyl to cassette is only one (1) transfer -- no need to transfer further -- a cassette tape lasts a long while
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: aard layout lock/unlock
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: thanks trachx
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: vinyl to cassette does at least 30 transfers or more
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: i don't really care enough to warrant analog anyway, i prefer safer digital copies that can be stored on computers and not vinyl discs
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metis Tech: digital is awesome
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Super Nintendo takes advantages of some old bitrate
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 1 transfer means that there is only 1 wire so you connect with that wire vinyl record with cassette
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you put that cassette in cassette recorder and connect audio input to it then electric impulses go through a lot of converters that distort/change signal - like capacitor, resistors, transistors, dioded or recording tape head
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: even you should consider internal PSU for that cassette recorder (or vinyl player) as one more noise source
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (the shelf-life of wholewheat flour is likely less than that of bleached white refined flour) (however, wholewheat flour is healthier than white flour)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Xyliz face the fact that you are unable to distinguish analog from digital if both were recorded the same way
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if they were processed in different way then you are listening to two different recordings
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a UPS is supposed to remove electric line noise
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: really
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then I guess it is temperature proof, induction proof, resistance proof, em proof, wave proof, and so on
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what kind of energy does it provide? as 100% it cannot be electric one
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (wrong) Trachx, digital is not able to provide the consistent full detail that analog provides, (even when the same masters are used) (so of course digital aand analog are different)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: digital has limited resolution, but your resolution is more limited than digital
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you cannot hear a difference if recording was done right
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you listen to low quality digital or analog recordings - you cannot blame digital or audio for quality of that recording
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also if you use low quality player whether digital or analog - you cannot blame digital/analog for quality of that player
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Analog is able provides an orgiastic ecstacy.  Digital provides deficiency and pain and is unable to provide what analog does (from the same original sound source)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you perceive difference between analog and digital version not because of digital technology limitations, but because somebody has chosen to record/process it different way
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: SuperTramp ("Breakfast in America") "Child of Vision" - Analog: the full orgiastic sax ecstacy - almost "to die for", (but stay alive).  Digital: disappointment and frustration
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: after experiencing Analog Ecstasy, digital music is a frustrating disappointment
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Star Wars Tech: how to you reset the mush client? everything is smooshed to the right side
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: aardreset, I think
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: is audio chat still going?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: anyone know of a good MP#
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: sorry nearly died, MP3 Splitter for mac? 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: I have a really long audio book that's one big mp3 file and I want to split it into smaller ones, any reccomendations? 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: first hit on google = mp3 trimmer
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: huh not my first hit =( 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: maybe you some kind of dirty search redirect?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: maybe
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: audacity is my second result but that's more of a full featured audio editor
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i've used audacity....it's a pain
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: reaper?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: drag your file, put the cursor on the place you wanna cut, type "s"
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: then render.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: yikes not looking to drop 60$ on something I use sporadically 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: its uncrippled
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: no idea what that menas
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: and stays that way ever after trial period
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: means
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: its a nagware. you get the full thing but it nags until you pay
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: ah 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: only nags when starting the program. then it just works without any issues
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: MP3 music is extremely painful music er wannabe music er noise -- unless there are different levels of MP3
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: twas about an audio book this time
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: what's wrong with lossy compression on an audiobook
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: repear looks really complicated, have you personally used it? 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: eh. reaper doesn't come with mp3 encoder. needs this lame.exe. a few months ago mp3 licence-thing ended i think. free like ogg now.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: it looks that way. but is very comfy to use with simple stuff- like splitting
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: ive used it a lot, yes
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: some other person here wanted to do the exact thing. she got it and was done in no time i remember
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: okay thanks ill give it a whirl
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: fyi , i used the MP3 Splitter for Mac. $30 but it worked fully for free trial...was able to split by duration super easy, can also do other types of split. 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: But why not Audacity?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it's free :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: with daw, you could add reverb and chorus to your audio books:)}!
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: ....that just sounds like a way to make an audiobook horrendous :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: and scary noises for horror stories:)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz reminisces of the good old days when simple software was free
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I need an audacity plugin to change all voice-like waveforms into morgan freeman voice waveforms :P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: audadcity and I didn't play nice together. i tried it for my last book. and it takes way to long to load a book and then find silences
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: i looked for a free movie editor.. it was such an adventure. they say "free" but don't mention the handicaps anymore even. cruel
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Always google for "FOSS" instead of "Free"
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: vlc did the job finally:)
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You mean VLMC?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: vlc. i needed to capture the screen.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Wasn't aware VLC could do that. I always use OBS
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: pretty much anything else was horrible. free stuff i mean. 0 luck
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: foss hm
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: yep, vlc can do it fine. there is a trick to get the mouse cursor but thats it.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: well hell, in the file name it's listed off as "boookname - #.mp3" but in plex they're only showing up as "Bookname" ....any suggestion for a quick fix on this problem =P 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: remove the spaces
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: really would rather not do that manually to 100 files 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: i think foobar can do it but its for geeks
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11752878/awk-sed-one-liner-command-for-removing-spaces-from-all-file-names-in-a-given
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: There's a windows equivalent way I'm sure.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: also there are no spaces in the file name... it's "bookname-#.mp3" i just put in a space 
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: but essentially: for name in *\ *; do mv -v "$name" ""
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: for name in *\ *; do mv -v "$name" ""; done
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I give up, I can't escape all of them properly
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Everyting s wt :((
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: wet asa cubumbrt in the summer
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: where in the aardwolf.db are the portal shortcuts stored?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: found it, they're just interspersed throughout the "exits" table
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WIBBLING Bastra Tech: anyone know anything about logitech keyboards and linux? new keyboard turned my function keys into media keys.:P an logitech of course doesn't make linux software for this i dont think i guess the question is does anyone know if i can pass a kernel option to fix this or am i going to have to remap my function keys.:P
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What model of keyboard?
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: https://askubuntu.com/questions/285512/how-to-change-function-fn-key-behavior-on-wireless-logitech-keyboard/285604#285604
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Short version: Get a tool called Solaar, it'll let you switch between having to hold Fn down to use the F keys or not.
T3/r7/2017-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WIBBLING Bastra Tech: thanks.
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: mushclient: i changed the font so it's easier to see but now any list from the mud is not lined up.  What's a good font to use?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Any fixed width font. fixedsys, dina, etc. google fixed width fonts for a list.
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I still can't reproduce this comm log position thing
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: so how do i down load the latest version of mush and keep all my game stuff i already fixed to transfer into it via plugins and alias and whatnot?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the installer keeps everything as long as you give the correct path BUT always make a backup. ie copy paste to another location
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: yeah i never did it before whats it mean the correct path?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: tell the installer to install over the old location BUT as i said 1st make a backup in case something goes wrong
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: this is version 4.98
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: from where aard home page?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: finger fiendish for the latest version
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also read https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Version-Numbering
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: whats that?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: i dont even know what all that means
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which part?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh...I see...
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Khaleesi: type 'checkversion' please
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: idk how to make a copy i right clicked on the file and did copy and nothing happened
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: wheres the latest version anyhow?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the whole directory, right click copy, then go some place where you have space and right click paste
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: technically i just download it and i cant put world deatails in it right? 
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you can finger fiendish for the link
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: oh, i meant to make a backup of your mush directory
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: idk what mush directory means
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the directory that you have mushclient installed in
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but you can only do that with a non-running mushclient or you very well may get a corrupted copy
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: ok i made a copy of it i have idk like 4 copies from different days can i change the name of the whole file and re download the new version over this copy i made? 
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: will the new version let me pick which one i want to mess with?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which one what?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yeah, i would test out the update by pointing the installer, when you run it, at a backup and see that it works
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: what u mean pointinng the installer?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: if i click the downloard latest version button does it ask me which place to override or update which copy? i seriously dont want to fuck this up
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the thing that you should've made a copy of is an entire folder named MUSHclient...
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the installer is the program file named Aardwolf_MUSHclient_r1930.exe that you downloaded from Fiendish's site
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: i made the whole file on my desktop
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and "mess"
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not file
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: folder
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should have a copied folder icon, with dozens of files and folders inside it
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: i copied the WHOLE folder so now it says on my desktop Aardwolf-Mud-MUSHclientr1825 - Copy (3)
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so go to where you double-click to launch MUSHclient.exe...then go to the folder "up" from that...highlight the MUSHclient folder, hit ctrl-c, then ctrl-v...that should give you a new folder named "MUSHclient - copy"
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: hi abelinc
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: i have a whole folder named musclint copy yes im actually using it right now its all exactly the same as before
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but when you make that MUSHclient copy folder, MUSHclient should not be running (i.e. you shouldn't be here, unless you're using an alternate version to connect)
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: the question was i havent downloaded the latest version of aardwolf so... 
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: is there a particular reason you want to upgrade? if not, it sounds like you're best off just leaving things alone
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: welp
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you download the latest, at the download stage, it's just like you're downloading a PDF, it doesn't "do" anything
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: my world details are so messed up that when i runto some new areas they arnt on here and i have to keep reinstalling mapper
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's just saving a file into your downloads folder
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: i need a man
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You point at NotGod Pleiades.
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: you don't need a man, you need basic computer skills
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's all yours!
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: not pizza boy lol
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: i made a copy of the whole thing i just need to upgrade it to the latest version so i dont lose all my plugins and my keypad and my alias and my stuff
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: question is if i download the new vversion to a copy i made will that new version ask me which place which copy i want it to go to
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: am i saying this wrong?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you download a new version, it does nothing
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: what do u mean it does nothing?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you RUN the installer (the thing you download), it will ask you where you want to install
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: download does nothing but download
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i.e. it puts ONE file into your downloads folder, and doesn't touch any other files, folders, or programs on your computer
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: it says.... Just install over the same location as your previous version and that's it.    
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: really?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: really what
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: just questioning abelinc, khaleesi
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: unzipping over top will kill your settings. At least it did for me
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: sigh
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the download from Fiendish isn't a zipfile...
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's an installer
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: i think i need a live person
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: or you can just not bother upgrading. What's broken that you need to upgrade?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: or someone you trust and teamviewer
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you double-click Aardwolf_MUSHclient_r1930.exe, click "I agree", then it takes you to a screen that asks for a "destination folder"
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I am going to send you a link to click on, Khaleesi
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that "destination folder" should be browsed, and you choose one of your copied folders
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: just have a credit card handy
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: and then my colleague John, who's real name is Sunil, will troubleshoot your device
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: thankyou for your time
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: whose*
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: before you overwrite your current install just make a copy of it in case you do not like new version or something breaks
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: if you buy the pizza, I'll come help you, Khaleesi
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'll only come help if you buy the plane ticket
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: pleiades we are not friends shove the pizza up your ass
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I'm going to be in Florida anyways, next week :)
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: u are creeping me out i dont live in florida
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Murazor: all kinds of obscure things are broken and fixed over time. I suppose it depends on what you mean by "not broken"
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: perfect is the enemy of good
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the URL in my finger includes the list of changes
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: mmmm breaking stuff
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't think there's every been a bug-free release
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ever
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: must be because it is not an Apple product
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: we need mush for apple
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's exactly why
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: people use mushclient in macos with WINE
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thats wat i do
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: maybe it's just me, but aard seems to have a hard time properly shutting down using wine on a mac
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: a force quit doesn't seem to kill the process
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which version of wine, and where did you get it from?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: wineskin I should say
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murazor Tech: What I mean is that if that you can play the mud without any problems, upgrading probably isn't worth it. But if there's something broken (ie. functionality that you need) then upgrade.
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: from 10/15
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: let me check
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've had pretty good performance in the past from the Wine.app Downloads half way down http://winebottler.kronenberg.org/downloads
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i forget but i go through terminal on my ma
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: mac
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but the versions of wine there are a bit old
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: wineskin 2.6.1
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: engine WS9wine1.7.2
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess these days I might use homebrew
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: gonna try that link you sent, Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i use homenrew i think to initiate wind
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i have to open terminal, cd desktop,cd mushclient, wine mushclient
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I do the same
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: is homebrew an emulator?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Homebrew is sort of an installer
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i just followed the directions on his site a long ass time ago.  
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: and it would run mush on an mac?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Wine will run mush on a mac
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there is a package for wine in homebrew, yes
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you would install homebrew, then use homebrew to install wine
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ive been doing it for a while now pleiades cause i hated mudlet
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: the directions on the wine site are almost step by step.
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: aah
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I just installed wine, use terminal to go to mush's directory, then 'wine MUSHclient.exe'
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: otherwise I was going to throw mush on an Azure server and just dial in :)
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: why not make a script you run from where your terminal launches to do all that?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: so open terminal ./mc and that is it
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Please create one for me
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I've been meaning to do that, but I'm lazy :p
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: what you would normally do you add ">> mc" to the end but first run "touch mc"
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: just 'touch mc'? No extentions?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: as long as you later run "chmod u+x mc" yes
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: oops silly me
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: to push those commands to the file you need echo cd whatever >> mc
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the chmod stuff makes mc executeable by the user owning that file
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no reason to use "touch mc"...doing "foo >> mc" does everything "touch mc" does and more...
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: touch is just a quick way to make a file, or to change its modified time...but if you're about to put contents into that file, then just let the way you put the contents there do the "touching"...
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, tee does a touch anyways
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, make "mc" unmodifiable by others, and put it somewhere that you have in your $path, then you don't need to change to its directory or "./" it
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I always create a "~/bin" directory and add it to my path for my personal executables.
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i.e. move it to /usr/local/bin/, then you can type "mc" from anywhere
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: If it's Ubuntu, you can also just type "Mush" into the application searcher and hit enter, it automatically will use wine
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'll use ~/bin on public/shared computers, but if it's mine I'll use /usr/local/bin, as that way if I create another shell account I can use it from there as well (i.e. my wife and son both have accounts to play Aard on my systems)
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I don't know that I've ever been on a public/shared linux machine :P
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: At least where I'd be installing things
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: I share a linux machine with abelinc
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: (he just doesnt know it yet)
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have lots of things installed on freeshell's systems
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: better use "vi filename" so you avoid overwriting file, if it is Linux then quite likely "mc" stands for midnight commander, to make file "protected" you can use "chattr +i <filename>"
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: most people won't have midnight commander installed
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Only if you've installed midnight commander...
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Which as Fiendish pointed out, won't be many people
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the only time I ever had midnight commander installed was to fix a bug in it
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, the fans of norton commander ;-)
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Also if someone can't safely tee out a file, I wouldn't be sending them to Vi :P
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Nano is at least somewhat newbie friendly
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, form me is quite convenient to use mc, is there more useful file commander if you have to use console ?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I use pico...no idea why...
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Vim + Ctags... all i'll ever need again.
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm a pico fan :-)
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: nowadays vi is not as scary as it used to be, quite probably there will be vim not just vi
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: How to quit Vi broke 1 billion view the other day.
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or nvi, nod
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So...gonna go with "People still don't know how to use Vi"
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and vi is standard editor, I guess that most linux distros have either vi or ed installed
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Most have nano these days too
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: and pine :)
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Although I had a weird distro a while back that defaulted to Joe for it's editor...that was weird.
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I remember joe was quite nice editor comparing to vi
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: nowadays just to make a small change I just use vi or mc built-in editor
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I also remember that some lpc muds used "ed" (or some version of it) as area/code editor
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think ed overlaps with our editor too
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: whats the command to reset my MUSH windows?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardreset or resetaard
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: ty both
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: so you can run mush right from google drive?
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: as long as it is through the drive on your computer
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Supposedly. I've never tried it. I used to get weird state file errors if I tried running out of Dropbox.
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: through? google drive just syncs up - the files are still on your hard drive :p
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok so then it should work? i have multiple computers i mud from so i wanna see if i can get them all to sync
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: also hoping i can wine though it as well
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah, it should work. Keep in mind if you have different screen resolutions, your window positions may be funky
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You may want to just sync your Aardwolf.mcl and database files
T3/r7/2017-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok im going to play with it and see if it will work
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: when ever i try to sort my gear and stuff with an alias it starts and then my input freezes but i still recieve mud output. is this intended ?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: freezes until when?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: until i disconnet and reconnect, i've never tried waiting more than 30 seconds
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm. don't know.
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it started with my aarch piece/pamphlet sorting script
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it's gateway scripting
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: soon you'll be onto Fiendish grade heroin
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: if i change Execute to pring it outputs the correct commands so it might be mudside
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: so how do i slow sending commands down?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what commands are you sending?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and are you sure you want to Execute them and not Send them?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: for each slot i'm getting and item from a bag, then in this case casting conceal on it and then putting it back in the bag
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: good point
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: well some of the commands build aliases
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Send("get @item @bag;c conceal @item;put @item @bag)
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: or in multiple sends
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: well it uses for location, id in pairs (LGear1) do 
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: then uses location and id to get the items
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: using Execute() will always risk interference from other scripts
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So seed @item and @bag with with that for loop
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you want to send something, send it. if you want to activate a function, call it. why pretend you're typing?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: for location, id in pairs(LGear1) do Send("Get " .. id .. " " .. location ..";c conceal "..id..";put "..id .. " " .. location) end
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: actually location in this case would be eq slot, so in this case not needed. i normally use that for wear location
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Why would you need wear location at all?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I had assumed "location" to be the conatiner the equipment was in
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: so that i always put the same item on in the same wear location and remove the one there
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it used to work less than a month ago
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: *shrug* "wear item" will do that automatically except for rfinger/lfinger rwrist/lwrist
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what did you change between a month ago and now
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: mush versions 
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I suppose that would be a good place to start looking, then
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/releases
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yeah, i'm on R1930
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and before?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the one before 1927
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Wasn't that the transaction bug upgrade?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you went from 1920 to 1930?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the one that fixed the random blank minimap issues
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i went via 1927 as well
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: did 1927 work?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i only had it on for a day before you rolled forward
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 1916 fixed the random black miniwindow bug
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: oh i was on 1919
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and 1919 worked?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yeah, i'm sure these worked on 1919
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i'll see if send with AG01 works etc
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i'll see if send with @BAG01 works etc
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't see anything in the changes between 1919 and 1930 that would likely affect any of this. did you load new plugins?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is your prompt broken?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: prompt is fine
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and no new plugins that i can think of
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i'll see if send works
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: just give me a minute to rewrite it
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can also try the installers for the different versions and see which one changes it from working to not working
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the link I posted has all of them beginning when I started making installers
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: even send breaks
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess try installing 1919 again and see if the problem is fixed, then try installing 1920,...
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i'l haveto do a regression next week
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't see anything in the change log that could possible cause this, but maybe I forgot to make note of it
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: by the way, is anyone else having the miniwindows not saving position bug?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: I used to have that when I used my mushclient on multiple computers I can't remember if that was part of the issue in this case
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: would need to be currently reproducible
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: to test a fix
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arvos Tech: how do you override processing aliases in mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arvos Tech: I thought it was starting the line with a period but that doesn't seem to work
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess that gossips
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well, you could do \\\Send("foo")
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: is it not #
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arvos Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think ; is the only thing that you can meaningfully begin a line with
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arvos Tech: because I remember having aliased recall to cast "word of recall" in mushclient but still being able to use the recall command by doing something like .recall
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, the aardwolf package sets \\\ as the script prefix, so beginning a line with that will send anything you type to the script engine. then you can call the Send() function f
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arvos Tech: or perhaps that was back in the bad old zmud days (and before aardwolf existed)
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you definitely want to still do that, set two aliases, one for recall and one for .recall
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: or alias rec to recall :)
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arvos Tech: I made the alias for rec instead
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: or trigger of you don't know word of recall
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or make the alias have a regular expression pattern "^\.?recall$" and check what you typed inside it
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shavrendil Tech: Is there a way for mushclient macros to not get added to command history?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'd look for the answer to that question on the mushclient forum
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: after more testing and commands being locked out but not info from the mud I can confirm that if i send, as text, a 30+ lines of commands as a single block i get locked out from sending any commands and only the first one executes mud side
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: I recently started from scratch making aliases, so I only have like 10-15 right now. I run my mush from Dropbox, making sure I only open it on one computer at time, then saving/closing before re-opening on another computer. I've noticed that some of my aliases will randomly disapear. For instance, i created 5 enchanting aliases that will be on my desktop computer and i've saved them, closed out the mush, re-opened on the desktop computer, they're still there. close/save. reopen on my laptop and they're gone. save/close open on my desktop and they're gone from there too. 
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i've also noticed that sometimes they save and ill open on multipel computeres repeatedly and they're there....and then randomly go missing. any ideas what might be going on with my aliases? 
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyla Tech: for the chat window for Blowtorch V2, how do i get it to pick up tells? i can get it for channels, but tells, it won't work.
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: anyone know how to resize the various windows from random plugins?
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there's either a command, or you will have to edit the source
T3/r7/2017-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: found it, thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looking at -h...an easy way to get any client (and even MUDside) to ignore an alias is to put a space before it...so " recall" would bypass a recall alias...
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: has anyone been able to follow how bast made the output for his helpfile align into columns?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i think it is pluginhelper.lua that does all the formating...
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diet  Redcola Tech: Anyone else tuned in to watch the Atlas V rocket launch?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diet  Redcola Tech: Looks like around 10 minutes till launch unless they delay it again
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: link?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full blown Celebrity Tech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwMDvPCGeE0
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: thanks for the link
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: I messed around with plugin wizard, gave it a name and hit create, and now all of my aliases are gone. How do I get them back?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: I can enable the plug in but I want to just put them all back as aliasses. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Hello
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Hello
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I created a Gmail accont on phone, it doesnt wanna login via Operamini browser... Any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: About to download Chrome for the simple purpouse to log into gmail, does Chrome have allot of behind the scenes data like updating etc that consumes limited mobile bandwith?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im under attack of malware, need to reload all mush plugins, hence need gmail attachments
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: OMfg gasp gasp fresh air, CACKLE I just remembered my gmail password, wow lmao was so obscure, its a wonder how my tipsy brain remembered it, so happy now
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Now i just need to find that secretaive folder ive downloaded my gmail/aard plugins from, i gueess it must be here somehwere
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: got it downloads folder
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: How can I check If my downloaded maper database from email is active>
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: The main cuese is I rage quited 2 days back after suffering csrss.exe malware attack, once I connect to the interweb, my gpu go into 99% load, like wtf. It was a bitcoin worm
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Hence I need to reinstall mush today and do all maper related stuff
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Finally got into gmail, so its 75% sorted! tier 1 here i come  wheeeeee
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you do not need windows for some serious work - best just user some kind of VM
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Trachx - I need win 7 for dx gaming
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I see, I am not quite sure whether you can give hardware access to VM then
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: The mind numing thing now is, I need to reasign alias triggers etc >_< epic fail
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Trachx _ I can
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Trachx - My motherboard have VM supports, so zero leech from main os
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: The 32bit VM im intending to download and use as a 32bit sysem in win 7 aka xp vm
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: the biggest problem I had with VM was the video card. The drivers never seem optimized enough through the VM to do graphics accelerator without performance drop
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems that nvidia has something called NVIDIA GPU PASS-THROUGH
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Atleast i got a working SnD now and a almost 100% mapper with notes and cexits, so prolly by tomorrow i can cp lvl again
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Oh yes im on nvidia card atm, Gigabyte geforce 1080 OC
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: is there a good way to backup mapper?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use backups, I have additional disk and do backup of my 2 system+data disks every month or three 
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: copy Aardwolf.db in a diff folder
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mapped does backups itself, under backup folder
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: err db_backups
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: kk
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just when you copy any *.db file remember to have mush closed
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: yeah I backup in general with everything closed
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Windows restore points is mostly useless in my case of a bitcoin miner worm, i retored to 3 months back, same prob
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: but hadn't really thought about how much time I have invested into my mapper at this point
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Nods cant 7zip and backup mush folder while aard running
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however best way is just copy whole mushclient folder to other destination (so db + logs (if you use) + settings)
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: yep that's what I do. I have an external hd I back it up to once a week or so.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Your best bet is to zip mush folder and make a backup that way, since the mush.exe is hidden from virus attacks in most cases
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: I have a terrabyte flash drive that has backups of my entire computer including the OS. If something happens to my laptop, I just need to reformat it or buy a new one and plug the usb in.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I am in the same boat, I setup a NAS as a pet project and dump to that on a regular basis
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: but I have a primary working directory that sits on OneDrive that is my first goto
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Gawd my pc was so slow on even this newly bought 1080 OC after ive connected to the internet, the bitcoin trojan made my gpu load to 99%
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: protects me from some crashes, sync's between windows and Linux, just screws me with virus
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: wtf
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: lol, I downloaded like 5 malware apps, none found it
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Only ComboFix fixxed it
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Best malware remover ever
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: ComboFix is awesome, especially since it will grab rootkits
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I use Delock mobile rack enclosure, but always attached (which is not really good idea for backup purpose)
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: It infexted my csrss.exe ocated in sys32 folde, cant rename it or cut it
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still using VMs is nice idea - as you are hardware independent, so when you change your hardware you just only install hypervisor and can run your VM
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but probably not good for anything GPU related
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I get 240 fps in farcry 3 at 1080p ulta detail with anti analizing on, when i connected to he web i get 30ish lamo
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: agreed
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I really liked doing Mint native that I basically never used. Had a Windows and a Ubuntu VM running that I ran full screen and worked off of. Was really cool until I got lazy
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Tipro, try http://www.mushclient.com/pasting
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I kinda find it 'weak' That you cant mapper purge portals confirm, from the start on a newly instaled mapper database.... You have to mapper purge portals first to get a follow up message
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You'll only find out during Rumspinga
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If these are the things that bother you, I think you got it pretty ok!
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You can always edit the code if it bothers you.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im a minimalist, spam reduce junikie, and any sort of setting that doesnt regulate to my needs, im upset or frazzeld
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale nods at you.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You have the technology, you can make it faster, stronger, more resilient. It is, $5 million client.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Nods, I got every little minute setting allready toggled, hence to Malware I needed to reinstall everything, I know im an idiot for not making backps in my cloud
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'm more ashamed of you getting malware :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you're lucky anyway, if you get hit by some crypto ransomware - then you have a problem without backups
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: IMHO, 90% of the crypto ransomeware is easily removed.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im not ashamed, I had avast with upto date udates and stil got it
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: WannaCry was a little harder, but not even hard to remove these days.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Relying on your anti-malware, that's your issue :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: removed yes, but you cannot get your files back unless that is old ransomware or you pay (not recommended)
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Be an internet savvy individual instead
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: they robbed a goberment town and the governement paid it
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I have/had a bitcoin trojan that infected my csrss.exe in sys32 folder. After i connected to the web my gpu goes into 99% load mostly
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, they're using your rig as a miner
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: bastards
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Just fyi, they can't run that w/o internet :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: porn?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I detected it within a whim and sortded it, have to count for some of my tech rep loss
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now it can be probably quite profitable to become a bitcoin miner
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Cheeze - I know
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Bitcoin isn't worth mining anymore without an ASIC machine
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Cheeze - It uses interweb
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You're better off with X11 or Scrypt mining
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: im out
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: And even Scrypt really needs an ASIC machine
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: with 3.5k EUR per bitcoin even PC with GPU probably is profitable
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I have/had most uptodate Avast virus definitions, JUST after Ive installed and purchased my Geforce 1080 OC gaming gpu this occured, Im so fking highly suspicios of my driver DDD
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I tried BTC mining on 2 R9 380x's and I only managed 10 satoshis over a week of mining
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: DvD*
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's literally like 4 cents... I paid more in electricity to get that
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: So itcoin trjans wait til you have flagship GPU's to do there dirty leeching hosts on?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Exhale....slow down mang, you're turning into gibberish-typing again :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Cheeze - OK, Ima bit exited :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: bitcoin trojan will use any machine
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Noted, but it started after My gpu upgrade//...
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: No, most of them don't care about what GPU you have. They're using you in a botnet, so any/all of that horsepower benefits them
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's either when you got the infection, or triggered something to make it reach out to it's host and start.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'm sure they'd just as happily use your CPU
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I see, I quickly nipped in the but though, using procexp64.exe and savvy gpu graphs i saw what files was the culprit
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Perhaps, but my CPU is always 5% max when vieing at on my desktop gadget
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I wonder whether it would be worth to using printers for bitcoin mining (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3QXMMV-Srs <-- that is HP's Wolf production that shows how dangerous are printers)
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im sure you get cpu trojan hogs, but it was so unexpected to recieve 99% loads on a brand new 3 year warranty 1080 OC GPu
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: All of IoT devices with any kind of processing power (theoretically all of them) could be coerced into a botnet to do it
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I don't know that overall it'd be worth the infection effort though
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: After some logging, my previous bitcoin miner trojan made now real dents in my daily averge bandwith, Im not that all clued up on bitcoin, but if its hoggin 99% of my GPU's core clock and driving the fan into uber drive, wouldnt the bitcoin harvesting make more data spends aka bandwith??
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Mining should be nominal bandwith usage. The only data back and forth is a sha256 hash
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Internet data aka megabytes usage was normal i guess
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Inhale and Exhale crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have free energy and bandwith - you do not really care what amount of bitcoin / satoshi you get
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I don't have free energy OR bandwidth...so I care about my ROI
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and you (as botnet owner) have it free - because node owners pay for it :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It still "costs" to aquire devices into the botnet
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The infection vector is not instantaneous or flawless, and usually needs some sort of entry point (user clicking something) to really get rolling
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Very few are still susceptible to the "default admin login" gargabe that took down Sony for a while.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im on  limited bandwith, the data spend dont bothers me cause I can just buy more mobile dongle data, the thing that pissed me to hell is that my brand new gpu(my baby) is using 99% core clock) when idle, I hate to see my new baby working for some other pwick onn the web
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, but it is relatively cheap, and you can rather easily infect some starting points - just distribute infected hacked games, patches or so
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The distribution is the cost I was referring to
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it's not a financial cost, but still a cost
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Well, part of it might be financial in hosting the malware
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Your GPU actaully over heats prematurely kinda. I mean the fans can handle it, Bitcoin miners is hard to detect for a non user. the cpu load and ram load is normal. I kinda figured it was a driver abnormailty with win 7 AERO.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: on most computers you do hear though if your gpu runs at 100% :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: After some testing and trouble shootng in the first few hours i calculated it was a trojan ( btw I never thought sush a thing existed with up to dated virus deff.)
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Coffebreak _ giggle lol nah
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: If I have to have 99% gpu uasge under normal terms, I will have to play a game thats not yet released.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: which is why something that uses 100% of your gpu is easily detected just by the noise level of your comp
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I need a 4K screeen, currently partying with a flagship top of the brand Sony Bravia 40 inch tv, sadly its only 1080p, who wants to play AAA games on this low resolution anyways, we are not cavemen
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: If you rely SOLELY on your AV to prevent viruses, you're already screwed
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: No I rely on user savvy 
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Also I find MalwareBytes malware DB to be the most extensive and up-to-date
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: you must smudge your motherboard once a week to prevent viruses
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I give it a bad daily to remove those pesky infections
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: pray for it. light a candle.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I find it weird it hasn't run correctly since the first bath though :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: s/bad/bath/
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded ruffles No Offense Cheezburger's hair playfully.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I have a gaming rif for over 6 months now, only after my last upgrade to 16gig Corsair ram and 1080 OC gpu this hapened, I mean with wannacry virus etc on the loose, wasnt i user safe method in my ways to have an uniffected pc for over 6 months?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Lucky != safe
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im a PC user since 1995, dont tell me i didnt use rubber :(
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Also, again...you upgrading the rig has NOTHING to do with the malware, at all. In any way. Whatsoever.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Uhm geforeec experience updates and numerous new hardware software updatees
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You pulled and prayed for 12 years, but on the 13th year you were too slow.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Again...nothing to do with the malware
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if I were a hardware manufacturer, I'd totally embed bitcoin mining circuits in every device I shipped
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: And you'd be in business for maybe a week :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I doubt it
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Cheeze - im so sorry if i stepped on your toes, especialy your big toe, you are obviously PC god, im a peseant in your eyes
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Now now, no need to get touchy. I'm just stating facts, upgrading your Nvidia drivers DID NOT give you malware
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://it.slashdot.org/story/17/08/18/1418219/secret-chips-in-replacement-parts-can-completely-hijack-your-phones-security
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Mowse Tech: It does if you download the drivers from the sketchiest places
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Well sure, I'll still stand by that being the user's fault :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Mowse Tech: Oh, for sure, I'm just splitting hairs
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Mowse Tech: Don't mind me :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Cheeze still here
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Cheeze - Why did the trojan actiavte after my gpu purchase though
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im not a careless download hoarder
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: I diddnt even download anything(porn included) in the 2 weeks span of my gpu driver installion\
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/x0r1/jellyfish
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Im so hessitting to click on any links, im so fragile now
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~mikepo/papers/gpukeylogger.eurosec13.pdf
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: .pdf is inncent enough ty
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: keyword 'Columbia
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: hehe, Cheeze and Fiends got a wild spectrum of PC knowledge
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: http://www.computerworld.com/article/2538961/security0/best-buy-sold-infected-digital-picture-frames.html
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: alright, trying to troubleshoot my PC. since I upgraded mobo/CPU/RAM, it'll randomly crash while playing games. it'll go days without happening and I can't get it to happen on its own. Windows Memory Diagnostic found no issues and I'm not sure what the next troubleshooting steps should be.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: how much "reserved" memory?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: IE, if you have 16GiB installed, how much does task manager actually see that it can use?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: i've seen issues where channel config of the ram will leave 90% of it unuseable
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: crash like go black but I can still hear noises for a few seconds then whatever noises are going on persist. hardware reserved is 70MB of 16GB. 13GB available after reboot.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Does the screen flash green before the black screen?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: so the screen goes black, but any sounds that were occurring finish, but no new sounds play. no green flash, monitor just ceases detecting input.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: And if at that point you switch the input from your GPU to your MOBO?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: haven't tried that, but the system stops responding to my button presses. as in, Alt+F4 doesn't exit out of the game.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Can you CTRL_ALT_ESC or CTRL_ALT_DEL?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: not to any noticeable difference
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Alt+F4 would stop the persisting sounds from the game if it were doing anything but it doesn't. not sure if I'd get an audio cue with the other two.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: How many monitors?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: one
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, do you have a second one around?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Darn. I wanted to see if your MOBO for some reason is switching off the input to your GPU
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: But the GPU fans and stuff still run?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: could be it, there might be a way to disable the onboard video in the BIOS
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I haven't checked. originally I thought it was the GPU overheating but I upped the max fan speed and dropped the target temp a bit and the problem continued.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: There usually is. For example when I run my R9 380x's in crossfire, the MOBO will full on turn one of them off and just use its resources
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: doesn't look like there's a way to disable the onboard video in the BIOS
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: What mobo?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: asus z170 pro gaming cause I'm a pro gamer.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: http://www.overclock.net/t/1592883/z170-asus-bios-how-to-disable-onboard-graphics
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: you're my hero, mr burger
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'm everyone's hero. They just don't know it yet.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear No Offense Cheezburger has been here just a second ago. You wonder where he went ...
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: https://businesstech.co.za/news/mobile/139225/mxit-is-officially-dead/
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Ok...so I KNOW this is a long shot... But do any of you understand Cell Modem interfacing specifically in regards to PLMN (public land mobile network)s? I'm running out of locations to try, there's a lucrative contract in it for anyone who got the chops.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Ok...so I KNOW this is a long shot... But do any of you understand Cell Modem interfacing specifically in regards to PLMN (public land mobile network)s? I'm running out of locations to try, there's a lucrative contract in it for anyone who got the chops.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Good god, when the hell did enter_repeat get turned on
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Sorry about that
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: well turning off onboard video drivers did nothing
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: what's the problem?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: er gpu
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Is it doing it right now?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Like, currently?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it happens when I play Overwatch so I restart really fast so I don't get banned
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Which GPU?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: RX 480
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Context from earlier: His computer crashes randomly.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: never happened with old mobo/CPU/RAM combo
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: do you have any idea what the problem is?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Google says try turning DOWN power effeciency in wattman
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: i'd start at ram
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Already been there
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: swapped ram, you say?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: what's the bsod message?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: RAM is fine, no BSOD message, just black screen
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: No, as in debugged towards ram seemed a non-issue
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: No BSOD
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'll try the Wattman thing
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: ^^
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: black screen? is your computer still working and just video is gone?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it said 50%, but I feel that's rediculous
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, and no green flashes
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Tried swapping the cord to the MOBO output when it does it yet?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Also did you check if the GPU fans were running this time?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: but i mean, if you're playing OW, sound and everything keeps going, or everything is gone?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: IIRC sound went until he alt_f4'd
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: sound persists but no new sounds
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: and Alt F4 does nothing
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Ahh, misremembered
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: didn't check GPU fans
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: well, try opening the side and pointing a box fan at your computer and see if that helps
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'd really like to know if the GPU itself is still running when it happens, of which the fans are a good indicator
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the temp seems fine
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yeah?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Meh, to be fair, GPU's don't really heat the system up
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Doesn't mean their PCB isn't hot
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Do you have a temp monitor?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: no, it would be the graphics card crashing and causing the whole system to die
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I have a temp monitor but I'm not sure how to log it through a crash
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: start with the simple solutions :P big fan!
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I've seen a similar issue on my R9 380x's when airflow wasn't doing great. The entire PC was fine, but they got HOT and shutdown, which sends a SIGTERM equivalent to the MOBO and it freaks out
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: is it a new motherboard and/or psu model?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Basically the MOBO really like to choose a single output, if that output is the GPU and the GPU ...pukes for lack of a better word, it'll usually try to default back to the MOBO output
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Donate sperm is all i got from that last message
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: If you're able to plug your hdmi into your mobo and continue, it means it's 100% your GPU. if it doesn't, that still doesn't discount the GPU
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: oops mischan\
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: asus z170 iirc
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: PSU is old, mobo is newer. I did swap the GPU option in the BIOS
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded nods at No Offense Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: what's your psu rated for?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: well, probably not a psu problem, now that i think about it.  your whole computer should go down and sound wouldn't persist if it lost power
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: maybe...
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: if it prioritized power away from the 4-pin it would do something like this
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: not sure what the PSU is rated for :p I want to say 750W
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: that should be totally fine
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: and simple question but you've plugged in all the power pins to the gpu, right?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'd say your rig's pulling MAYBE 500
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: If he got to OW for it to crash, the answer is yes :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: also, don't put all your devices on the same rail.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: okay, it happened again :p GPU fans on
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: I'm a fan of GPUs
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: were you playing OW when it crashed again?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: or something else graphics intensive?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: in a menu screen
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but yes
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: hm did you see where i asked to check if all the power pins are plugged in correctly? :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, did you have resource manager running when it happened?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I did see that and I did not have it running
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: poked around the event viewer, maybe?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: nope. anything I should check before rebooting?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I mean...the more programs you run to try and catch it...the more likely it is to happen :P
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Throw up some GPU intensive tests like 3dmark and see if it crashes it
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: wait, Raded, you mean it's just OW that crashes not your whole computer?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: whole computer
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: No he gets hardlocked and has to reboot to do anything
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: oh, right okay, you mentioned rebooting...
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: alt+F4 does nothing, monitor fails to detect input, but any sounds that were ongoing persist.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: not like a skipping record, but like normally. but no new sounds play, if that makes sense.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, i've had it in PUBG
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: does the computer respond to ANY input?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Unforgiven Tech: Try a hammer?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Black screen on main monitor (second monitor still displays fine) audio continues, but entirely unresponsive, and requires a force reboot
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: not in my case
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: computer responds to no input
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: so ctrl/alt/del does nothing yeah? so yeah, reboot it and see if there's anything helpful in the event viewer
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: do you have an old gpu you can throw in there?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: or even no gpu
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Just use the onboard to test if need be
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: looks like it might be audio driver crashing
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's more info than we had..
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Are you using the built in audio or a 3rd party like AudioSwitcher?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: speaking of crashing, mushclient just crashed :O
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Faulting application name: ATKEX_cmd.exe four times in the event viewer at the time of the last two crashes
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: see, event viewer is helpful
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Holy cow
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Google is awash of similar results
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm using a USB soundcard
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: what why
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Upgrade realtek drivers
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: use the onboard sound
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, your MOBO sound should be equivalent
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but it's my fancy headphones :(
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So not a soundcard then...just an in-line amp?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Otherwise I don't understand how your headphones play into it. They have either a USB or a 9mm jack, or both, right?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: headphones plug in to a thing that plugs in to the PC by USB
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: What connection do the headphones themselves have?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: what headphones do you have?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: 9mm
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Plug those into your mobo
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: https://www.amazon.com/HyperX-Cloud-Gaming-Headset-PS4/dp/B00SAYCVTQ
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it has a 9mm jack
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it does, but length-wise not possible
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I mean, my setup isn't pretty anyways but it works. Razer Headphones -> Skullcandy In-line Amplifier -> MOBO USB
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So the "thing" you plug your headphones into, it just gives your volume control/mute/etc right?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yessir
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So that's an in-line amp, not a full soundcard
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: And I highly doubt that's the issue
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: well for now, go to your mobo manufactuer's website and update drivers/firmware/whatever
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the marketing materials say, "sound card" and I'm not that educated :p
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: or if you can't be bothered, try playing on speakers for a bit and see if it still crashes
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: All my googling just says it's a known issue with an old version of the Realtek HD Audio Manager
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Just upgrade that first
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: but yeah, i'd do the driver first
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Windows 10 was supposed to solve these problems for me. it's the future, dammit.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: "It's 2017...why do I have to put in my PASSWORD?"
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm going to get a beer and yell at electronics while this sets up.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded rapidly nods twice at No Offense Cheezburger, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: To be fair, passwords are horrible security
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it is true.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I seem to be caught in an uninstall loop.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: what
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it uninstalls, tells me to reboot the computer and that it will run the setup again, I do that, it runs the setup again, and tells me it's uninstalling and it's time to reboot again.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: the uninstaller is probably asking for admin privs right? if not, make sure to run as admin
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the user account I'm logged in as should have admin privs
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: after the uninstaller runs Realtek disappears from Device Manager
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Windows seems to be installing the driver on its own when I reboot.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: well run the installer again before you reboot
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: did you build this computer yourself or did you buy it from somewhere?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: built it myself
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the driver from the ASUS website is an older version than the one Windows wants to install on its own.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: what was the driver called again?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: win 10?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: the thing that kept crashing
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: ATKEX_cmd.exe
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yes Windows 10
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: what version did you download?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: installer is for 6.0.1.7899, Device Manager says 6.0.1.7910 is installed
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: which motherboard do you have?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: ASUS z170. I think I've got a solution: uninstall/delete driver through device manager then run the software from the ASUS website before Windows 10 "fixes" it for me.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yeah try that
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: and no, z170 is the chipset, but which specific motherboard did you get?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: asus z170 pro gaming
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: device manager shows the driver version from the installer, so I think I'm good. hopefully.
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: good luck
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: thanks for the help <3
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: no problem
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: raded did your problem get fixed?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: hasn't crashed since
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: great :D
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: since what
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but it would go a few days without crashing
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: since you left it off?
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: well keep your fingers crossed :D
T3/r7/2017-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: doc, my computer keeps crashing after i turn it on.  oh, then dont turn it on
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: how do I add a tick timer to MUSHclient status bar? Is that an option I am overlooking?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: there's a plugin that does that, I do believe.
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: theres a plugin for that
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think it is Aardwolf_Tick_Timer.xml
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: I don't know about mush specifically, but I know Aard gives you tne 'Tick' option to toggle it on, you could then gag it with a trigger and have that trigger make a counter.
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion forces a gag into Inix's mouth.  Ahhh, blessed quiet.
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: trachx called it exactly
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: hmm, the tick timer plugin was missing from the latest build i downloaded. i just grabbed the xml from a previous mushclient setup i have
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: "that's so fiendish"
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems that some plugins were removed in r1930 in commit with comment "plugin purge"
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I am trying to figure out how to subtract two days from the current time and retrieve the beginning of the day all while retaining the epoch time. So far, I can get it to pull back 48 hours ago on 8/16 but I am looking for the beginning of 8/16
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: any ideas? this is what i have https://codeshare.io/GqN0kq
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think that will help you: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32022898/subtracting-hours-from-os-date
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: basically you need to get an hour and minutes and seconds and subtract them from your calculated time, that will get you 00:00 two days ago
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: wow good point/tip
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try : \\\now = os.time(); local_t = os.date("*t", now); Note(local_t.hour .. ' '.. local_t.min .. ' ' .. local_t.sec)
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you want to use UTC then just use os.date("!*t", now)  instead of os.date("*t", now)
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: that is exactly right now!
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i see then to get the seconds it would be local_t.hour * 60 * 60 + local_t.min * 60 + local_t.sec
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: i don't understand how that relates to WoW, zhalut?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: bloodelf i
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: miss
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: it relates to a database I am query but I want the results back in my local day/time
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: and the database is stored in utc-epoch
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: \\\now = os.time(); local_t = os.date("*t", now); start_time = now - (86400 * 2) - local_t.hour * 3600 - local_t.min * 60 - local_t.sec; print(os.date("%x %X", start_time))
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: awesome, i get it. thx Trachx
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here for a while
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: can i find the source image for the wolf in the background on a tshirt?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: btw kudos fiendish, i've had no problems with my aliases since I started letting them sync properly beore opening/closing 
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: shaelynne did you ever get your settings back?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: nope...I just decided that I wanted to start fresh. I didn't lose my map information. I think I could have if I had gone trashcan digging in dropbox, but I chose not to. 
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: well if it's what you choose to do :P i had to do it once and it was not the most fun i've ever had
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: I did discover the Pluggin Wizard yesterday though thanks to bamboo, that's been awesome for turning a group of aliases (like my enchanting ones) into a script and then sticking it in my external hard drive for safe keeping. 
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Veritheia: look in worlds\plugins\images
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: yeah, it's a pain sometimes, but I had so many alises/triggers that I never used anymore, so it's been nice to clear it up...and I have new appreciation for the ones I have to re-make!
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but the version of the image I have is not suitable for a shirt
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: I don't have the wolf on my background =( 
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: i was being facetious.  really just wondered if it's one of the wolves on those wolf tshirts uhh.. people wear, sometimes
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Veritheia: it would need two more wolves 
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's great to hear, Shaelynne
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: one of them! :D
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I dislike the plugin wizard. It's easy to accidentally remove all the aliases and triggers from your world file with it
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: If I need to move things into a plugin, I prefer to use the copy button which grabs them as XML
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: but okay, here's a real question.  if i want to set a variable based on my character level, is there a better way than making a trigger that fires on the level up message?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: gmcp maybe?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Shaelynne: no wolf on background means that you have either removed the image file, unloaded the layout plugin, or...uhh...I'm sure there's a third thing but I can't remember it
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: gmcp is best. I have a guide.
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: documentation web page?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Using-GMCP
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: abelinc.me/gmcp for the easy one }:>
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the guide may require using a newer version of the package than what is on the aardwolf website. I don't remember when I rewrote the gmcp helper
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: heh fiendish no qualms about getting technical right off the bat in your guide, huh? :P
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why the first sentence has a "skip the technical junk if you don't care" link
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the other reason for the "I don't have the wolf background" is simply the contrast ratio & brightness of the monitor...it's really hard to notice on some screens & angles
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: yeah, it's okay. i just noticed it one day on my macbook air and realized I don't have it on my other laptots. not the end of aard to not have my wolf background =P 
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: can i use if-then functions in a variable?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a variable is just a value...you use the if/then when you set the variable or when you call the variable
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No, but you can use them in the trigger or alias you use to access the variable.
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: ah, righto
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: in an alias that's sending to script, isn't the function to send a command to the mud "send"?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Send sends to world like: Send("buy " .. wildcards.item)
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or SendNoEcho
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: hm, i get an error where it looks like it's trying to call send as a variable
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: attempt to call global 'send' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: though my command is literally   send("hold amulet")
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is a difference whether you use \\\Send("say hello") or \\\send("say hello")
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: oh ffs
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: case sensitive
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: note to self, case sensitive.  thanks!
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so when you type "xset mark" it throws an error ?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: does anyone know how to make mush client not log me in automatically? was thinking about making an alt.
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: using mush?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Remove the character and password from your Aardwolf.mcl file. OR! Just clone your entire mushclient directory to another directory
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: wha? just to make another character? that's not a setting or something?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makoa Tech: alt-enter, general, connecting, no auto connect
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: alt+enter > connecting > connect > no auto-connect
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: oh. Whiew. 
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyra Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm a bit confused about lua's threading / locking model.  From what I've read, everything is single threaded so that you don't need to worry about locks.  Is that correct?  Is there really no preemption?  Are things only scheduled when one thread explicitly relinquishes control?  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: what's the correct way to have mapper custom exits wait for 5 seconds? I tried "<wait 5>" without the quotes and it didn't work
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: wait for 5 seconds to create the cexit or have a pause before moving?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: mapper cexit_wait 5 is the former
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: pause before moving
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: like take an action, then wait 5 seconds, then move
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I would need to look at that one
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I think I have workarounds with triggers because I was lazy
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: it's not catch cexit_wait <5> or (5) or 5
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: wait(5) seems to do it. it's the space before the parentheses that was throwing me off
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: nice
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: thanks for talking me thru it Kallaz!
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: lol sorry I was useless on the actual question :P
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: no worries. you pointed me in the right direction though
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyrron Tech: hi there
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: Salutations.
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: Lua does not have native support for threads, only coroutines which are necessarily cooperative. The Aardwolf MUSHclient Package does come with support for a kind of light non-interactive threading, which I use for asynchronous socket IO
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Thanks Fiendish.  I was referring to co-routines.  So am I correct in believing that a timer will never preempt a running co-routine?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Unless the co-routine yields
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah, it has to yield
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Nice :)  That simplifies things quite a bit.
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: If I run wine->mush from a script, it throws an error, saying the aardwolf.mcl file has an invalid path. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Does it work if you don't script it?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Yup
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Fix your script, then :P
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: The mush.exe runs, but it throws that error
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: /Applications/Wine\ Devel.app/Contents/Resources/wine/bin/wine my/path/to/MUSHclient.exe
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Does your script run with different environment variables?  I'm guessing your pathing is off in the script environment
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: That's my script
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Bamboo: your script isn't declaring the right initial directory
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods at Durel.
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what durel said
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I don't understand, sorry
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient is kinda funny about how it finds its various files
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's using a relative path (rather than an absolute path) and the current directory isn't where you expect it to be when mush is starting
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: a lot of things are looked for in locations that are relative to the "start directory" rather than where MUSHclient.exe happens to be
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: my script simply calls "cd [path to MUSHclient]
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: my script simply calls "cd path to MUSHclient" and then "wine ./MUSHclient.exe &" Easy peasy
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Yeah. Bamboo, do what Durel just said
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Ah, so cd to path, then wine the exe from that directory
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: err, cd to directory
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It's a little kludgy but cd'ing to the base directory avoids a lot of potential issues
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meattoad Tech: What is everyone talking about?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Type 'tech -h' and find out
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Meattoad: how MUSHclient knows where to look for the files it wants to load
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: changing the pwd so the activated exe that used shortcut pathing works properly
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Yey it worked
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: metria is having a melt down, and they're trying to help him, Meattoad
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Thank you all!
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Metria is only melting because someone poured water on him.
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: someone remind me...I was going to make inventory serials have an off toggle or something?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I think you were going to make it have a toggle so you could switch it on/off for inventory and vault individually
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: no, you were going to get us pizza
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: definitely the pizza thing
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baoine Tech: i will legit give you my address if you wanna dot hat
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baoine Tech: large pepperoni/other meat would be amazing <3
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sure, give me your address. I'll tell them you want a pizza with "large pepperoni" wink wink
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baoine Tech: extra large sausage with extra cream sauce actually please
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Oh I'm sure you'll get all the cream you can handle.
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baoine Tech: impossible, i can handle an infinite amount
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: man I had a question for fiendish earlier and now I can't remember. maybe it will come back to me. 
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Do what I do.  Write down your questions for Fiendish in advance as clearly as possible.  By the time you're done explaining the problem in detail, you've probably solved the problem yourself :P
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: oh oh i remember 
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone have the formula that converts total levels to what it would be from 1 to 201?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: each tier is 201, so divide by that?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yah, some languages have a modifier formula that would work but the 201 402 603 confuse it
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Are you looking for the mod operator?  Use a percent
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: For example: 500 % 201
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Wait...I just re-read your question and I think I may have misunderstood.  Are you asking how to find out your current level based on your total levels?
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no, you're correct
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's still just total levels mod 201
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm not sure if he wants to calculate his number of remorts or the current level
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: for number of remorts, just divide
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: can finger me, look at a progress reporter for how I do it :)
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: integer divide, which in lua requires math.floor or string formatting
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, you would use this: math.floor(500 / 201) to calculate from 500 total levels
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: this is a ghetto way (case when level % 201 = 0 then 201 else level % 201 end) as level_t,
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: it is inside a query
T3/r7/2017-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: r1935 out
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i am running the latest version of MUSHclient and I noticed that the ability to input text freezes when entering multiple commands. like, I will goto an area and while I am running, if I type look, east, west, it doesnt actually appear in the input bar until I get to my destination
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone know if this is an option to toggle? i like the old functionality more
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I wanna see the input i am typing and the cursor moving
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: I would guess from waht you say that the problem is lag.
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yep maybe. but it doesn't happen in the old version
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: it could be some kind of conflict. I don't expect it to be the way it is supposed to work.
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: thanks for the response. Ill try a fresh install to see if it happens
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: yeah, I would try that.
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: OK, the input cursor issue has been resolved. I downloaded the latest version from fiendish, added my old stuff (db's, plugins, saved stats) and all is well
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: Anyone use MoviePass?
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is there a lua pattern matching equivalent to regex's {}? e.g. ^[a-z]{3-12}$
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: Does anyone familiar wish MUSH client know why my double trigger isnt playing? It used to work, no changes made, sound file still there, Test still works, note muted, but still doesnt play
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first check to make sure it's still enabled
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: double was changed from 10 minutes to 15 recently as well
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, check to see if your trigger mentions how many minutes
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is there a lua pattern matching for number of occurrences? (i.e. regex's {})
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: it is enabled
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: it does not mention how many minutes
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i take it no such pattern matching functionality
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what are you triggering on, the "hear me" message?
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you can use regex in lua
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: how?
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if in a plugin trigger/alias:  regexp="y"
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: otherwise just check the box if thru mush
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not using mush
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: using string.match
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: are you using %d etc instead of /d ?
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: ""^Below the flare\, you hear (.*?)$""
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trigger/alias regexp="y" is not lua...that's MUSHclient trigger match...
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: https://www.lua.org/pil/20.2.html
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well i thought he wasnt enabling it for his client which would make it not work
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: Aye, im using mush
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and according to the patterns link you posted, there is not the ability to match a particular number range of occurances of an "atom"
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: doubles just happened again and i didnt even see a hear me message? is that message on a channel that i might have turned off?
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, yeah, that'd do it if you're not even seeing the messages it definitely wouldn't fire ;-)
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: well im not seeing the message, what chan is it on
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: info global
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type just "info" to see which info channels you have on
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: thanks tech
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ok sorry, i guess you cannot use {} for length of pattern
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: red: it'd be inefficient, but you can get creative with your pattern to emulate the behavior...put <low end> repetitions in "hardcoded" (not optional), then add optional additional ones, and finally do a check for "not too many"...
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but you could always do (%d%d%d) for example if you wanted to catch 3 numbers
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Endymion.
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: %d%d%d+, followed by "doesn't match %d%d%d%d%d%d%d" to catch 3-6 numbers, for example (of course if it were just that, you could check length or even value between 100 and 999999, but you get the idea)
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: does lua allow for a doesn't match option?
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: can't seem to find that
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if match is false...
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so two patterns
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh well, thanks anyway
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, you'd be using lua logic to narrow down the pattern to what you want
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rather than doing it in the match itself
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: have you tried a negative lookahead assertion? e.g. ^(?!INFO:.*)(?!$)(.*)$ will match any line that is neither an info message nor a blank line
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: negative lookahead will evaluate to true if it does not match
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: so you can program "doesn't match" within a regex
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we're not in regex...
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: okay, nevermind .. didn't catch start of question then
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, redryn was looking to see if he could do something like regex's {n,m} limitation on the number of repetitions of a pattern within Lua itself
T3/r7/2017-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Not without, as you already said, basic pattern matching with a fallback
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vapore Tech: I'm trying to migrate from a much older version of mushclient. can I just copy my Aardwolf.db over to the latest or do I need to do some kind of a migration?
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Just run the installer and install over your current mushclient. (If you're concerned, copy the entire folder as a backup)
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vapore Tech: I got the zip version and currently moving settings and plugins over. but don't want to loose the db obviously. so copying the old one ove should be fine you think?
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Why did you ask, if you are going to do it your way anyway?
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Copy *.db and Aardwolf.Mcl
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vapore Tech: cool. that was exactly what I was looking for. thank you very much
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurdock Tech: Does anyone here have a GUI for Mudlet? The old one on the wiki doesn't seem to work.
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: almost noone uses mudlet
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: anyone know where to get the plugin to tell when moons will appear?
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have you tried googling "plugin 3moons aardwolf" ?
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: oh. no becauseI didn't know it was just for the three moons. my apologies.
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish drops his pants and gives you the vertical smile!
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: did you know 80% of mudders stay horizontal 90% of the time?
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: btw Fiendish why have you removed ticker counter plugin?
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: your vertical is someones horizontal. thats what Einstein said
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: trachx: because the status area at the bottom of the screen isn't really the right place for a persistent message like time to next tick :\
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I see, still some users lack that plugin in new version
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: only because they're installing fresh instead of using the installer to upgrade their previous install
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but yes I know what you mean
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for now at least the plugin still exists. I just don't want to include it in the base package until it gets redone to be less prone to collision with output from other plugins
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but a person upgrading from a previous version shouldn't actually lose the plugin, because they should be telling the installer to install on top of a previous installation instead of making a new one. and the installer doesn't delete files. It just chooses to not install certain files if they already exist
T3/r7/2017-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: Maybe wrong channel, but does someone have a link they can drop to the consider plugin? I am trying to patchwork the old stuff I am finding on the Gammon forums for MUSH, but I keep getting errors.
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: in LUA, inside a function, if I declare a variable as local (e.g., local x = 0), do I need to use "local" if I want to change the variable within that function, and after it was declared as local?
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: No
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: no, and because it is inside a function it is a private variable
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: to modify the variable from the outside you would have to provide a method.
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: you can't modify a variable in a function from the outside, it ceases to exist once the function concludes
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: wrong, I use that technique all the time to create lua objects.
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: it is called a closure
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AkcuL Tech: i have a problem
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AkcuL Tech: i accidentally pressed something and now all my toolbars are all over and i cant move them. i also type like bold letters in the cmd line
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AkcuL Tech: resetaard doesnt work
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AkcuL Tech: well i can move them but only around top half of screen
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AkcuL Tech: ill try restarting aard
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurdock Tech: Does anyone know where I can find a Mudlet GUI for Aardwolf?
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: What is the text to put into trigger to change a variable value?
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: for mushclient
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celebrity Tech: SetVariable ("target","%1")
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: SetVariable(variableName, value)
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtane Tech: thank you! :)
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celebrity Tech: if the trigger is: something *
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celebrity Tech: if the value is in your mush variable, then  SetVariable ("target",yvariable)
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celebrity Tech: SetVariable ("target",@myvariable)
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I have a timer in MUSH that loads with a default time of 30 seconds. I am using SetTimerOption and SaveState() to update the seconds but the revised seconds' value resets back to 30s when I reload the plugin. Is there a way, in LUA, to permenantly change the default time of a timer?
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Lua isn't an acronym
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: what does LUA stand for?
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: lua is a progamming language
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: Mudd, im trolling... its cool :)
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: im done now
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: see "What's in a name?" on https://www.lua.org/about.html
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: got one!
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: is there a good plugin for when you get disarmed?
T3/r7/2017-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: is there any other way to get options for blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malidectus Tech: how to i get spellups to use words instead of cast 116 or whatever?
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metria Tech: Type 'spellup' and don't use either
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malidectus Tech: it still said cast 140 cast 155 etc..I'm a tard when it comes to figuring out the why lol
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metria Tech: Sounds like you're using a plugin that intercepts the built-in mud command 'spellup'
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malidectus Tech: yeah the winkle one.ill  have to see how to configure that thing
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metria Tech: Plugins will probably use spell numbers, it's easier
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malidectus Tech: alright ty
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: In MUSHclient, when enabling a timer, does it execute the send_to/script or does it only do it after the first iteration of the timer completes?
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Who is Rezit Tech: What is the file again that you have to move over to get your aliases and triggers in a new version of mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: if i remeber correctly that would be the world file
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eukanuba Tech: I reboot my computer after listening to gangnam style and it remembers I use to listen to Gucci's lemonade song and plays it after I restore Motzilla firefox's memory... How do I get it to remember Gangnam style as well?
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: how to remove after a run (end running)?
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LeafGuider Waker Tech: anyone around
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: No
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: move along please
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LeafGuider Waker Tech: is there I script to monitor how many of certin item you have in a bag? or command?
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: inv keyword bagname
T3/r7/2017-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LeafGuider Waker Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: in mush, how obtain value of mud alias?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: obtain?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: i have a simple alias on mud (command alias). I need value of this alias in a alias in mushclient
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: um.. try ourvariable
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I don't understand what would be the value of a mud alias
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: um.. try @yourvariable
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: and toggle expand variables on
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: are you using Send() in your alias?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i dont know exactly what you mean. the simplest way i know is just: scan arget    ... so it uses the "target" variable in mush
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: @target... damn
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: I'm on my Mac.  Safari says I have two porn sites open on 'iCloud Tabs' which is probably true, but I don't want to be reminded of them.  How do I close them?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: in lua/mush how can i to put in table the result of a command.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd have to parse the result, inputing each of its values into the table
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSH doesn't know what is "the result of a command", so it needs to trigger on the lines individually
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless the command gives GMCP output...in that case, it's automatically added to the gmcp table
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: oh rofl thx for reply
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: hi. when i log in today, i saw some messages that my mapper is being updated. and now, my map is as if i just started the game
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Did you recently attempt to update from an older version?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: no, it looks like it did it on its own
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type "checkversion" please
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: when i log in today, it showed messages like Updating mapper database schema to v2.. all the way to v11
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: You are currently using Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: r1825
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I am familiar with the process that you are describing. Now I need to know what happened in your recent past to cause it.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if it showed the database schema updating that much, then it means the client found an original map database and not the one you think you should have
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which means that you likely moved some files around. Maybe you renamed something? Maybe you recently tried to update and didn't do it right? Maybe something else.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: i was playing fine yesterday, and even through the weekend. today, it showed some messages when starting a campaign so i closed the window then opened it again then it started updating stuffs
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: here's a quick test... go out into a continent room and then type bigmap off
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: i don't think i changed anything manually. last update that i did over the weekend was enabling the S&D plugin
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: but it was working until today
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you go to a continent room and type 'bigmap off', do you see continent rooms already mapped or not?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: let me try but i have been dependent on the map too much, would need time to go to an exit :)
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: at least learn how to get out of aylor without relying on the map :p
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: continent is showing
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you see continent rooms filled in when you type bigmap off?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: trying bigmap off
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: continent rooms are not mapped
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that means the mapper did not find your old database and had to create a new one
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: can i restore from backups?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Two things could cause this. Either the file was actually deleted, or you changed the world name to be something other than Aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Did you recently change the world name?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: If you press Alt+1 does it say just "Aardwolf" in the world name box?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: wait... i think you are on a right track. i did not change the world name, but i noticed it is named u now
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: whereas the old one indicates aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: change the world name to Aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and reload the plugin
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: i mean in the top of the client
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also save
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: where can i do it?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I just told you. Press Alt+1
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sheriff Shindo hands Fiendish a beer
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Or through the menus, Game->Configure->MUD Name/IP Addresses
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: ok. trying
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: will save and close/open the client
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: alright it is working now
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: yay!!
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: i meant the map is showing now. i did not even have to reload the plugins
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can type 'bigmap on' now if you want
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or 'bigmap help' to see commands for the bigmap plugin
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: one last thing just to be safe. to reload the plugins, i just disable them and load them again, right?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: eh
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: you mentioned earlier to reload the plugins
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ctrl+Shift+P, highlight the plugin, click the Reinstall button
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: thanks again. really appreciate it
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no problem. I'm glad you caught me online.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: i should donate something to help keep the site up. how can i do it?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: help donate
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: ok. thanks again
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: since I see that donations are closed right now, you might want to contact Lasher first
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tulume Tech: ok. will need to create a paypal first over the weekend. will contact hiim this weekend then
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: r1936 with a small bug fix
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: only matters if you use 'bigmap unmerge'
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magius Tech: anyone here who can get to the gaardian website?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I just asked Liberabout it recently and he says it's down.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magius Tech: the site or their domain?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magius Tech: because google dns cannot resolve them
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Does it matter?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: the domain, I'd say.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I tried tracerouting to gaardian.com and it times out.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magius Tech: thanks byrantha...and yes  bamboo, it does matter.  if the site is down, there is no way to get to them. if there is no dns, we could get to the site via ip
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: But would you really bother accessing the site using the IP?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: if there were DNS issues, and the site itself was up and running properly, sure. you could.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Yes, you could. But would you?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I personally would, ifI had immediate need of the site. *shrug*
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magius Tech: i would because it is accessible
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Interesting
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually, most websites are totally inaccessible without DNS regardless of whether or not you know the IP address (gaardian's website IP address is 66.33.196.163...it's a Dreamhost server)
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magius Tech: thanks abelinc. looks like they were hit with a DDoS attack
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: more specifically, most websites would be totally inaccessible to standard web browsers without DNS resolution, regardless of whether or not you know the IP address (you can "fake it" locally with a hosts file or use more-advanced tools though)
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway gaardian is back!
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: oh. how inconvenient.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: glad it's back.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: best is just mirror their website 
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't mirror their sql queries though...
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the maps do work fine offline when downloaded
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems that also iwuvaard.org is hosted at same hosting provider
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I love my "iwuvaardeq" command to query their database :-)
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: is that some kind of mush plugin?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, I don't use MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: oh that's right, I recall having this convo with you before, I think.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I recommend MUSH for most people, but I'll likely never switch from what I've been using for 27 years :-)
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Byrnatha rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: gaardian maps, including the VI maps, are all generated with javascript, so it should be usable offline after initially fetching the area data
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: at least in theory
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, I've used them that way
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (not the VI ones, but the regular ones)
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure they use the same data variables
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: damnit. now I have to make r1937
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You roll on the floor, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (unrelated)
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: anyone know under which plugin would be the auto hunt script?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a couple
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast has one, and S&D includes one
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I use S&D, and I love it.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok cool Maybe ill look into the one of those, i was trying to use it as a guide for creating a script that would call a variable
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: never used the auto-hunt thing though, I don't have hun tyet.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: hunt yet.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: S&D will also do hunt trick, which is similar enough (instead of "move a room and hunt again", it does "increment #.x and hunt again")
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: oh yes. the ht alias is seriously awesome
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: OK thanks!  im just looking for some real basic script to use as an example to make one for opening a door, like if i do open n, and it fails i want it to keep trying to open n!  I know i need the failed messages buyt that seasyjust as an example
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have mush then you just do: mapper cexit open e;;e
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I do not see any point to keep trying opening doors that failed
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: unless you want to auto pick-lock or bash door
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: that was an example, not what i wanted!  i just wanted to see an example like that in actual code or plugin so i can try and do one of my own
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just implement simple state machine
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: unless you want complete bot plugin, then PST
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: but yes a pick lock one would be great
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: since there is a command and a fail
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a couple possible fails, though
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is simple state machine
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you just add in your alias #pick <direction> : state = 1, direction = n, send ("pick n")
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and then you enable triggers that will catch message and execute pick_lock_script
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then you now that if pick lock failed then again Send("pick " .. direction)
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: fiendish, Sharptracker v3.6h (not hadar's) doesn't work in latest builds, it does on 1825, do you think you will be able to make it 
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: define doesn't work
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Principium Tech: Hwy guys im using starlings version of S&D, how do I fix the error I just received. Alias function "quick_kill" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: raises some errors, I will compile a list later and send as note
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: does Sharptracker 3.6h use fake channels?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh, errors?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah show me the code and errors
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: principium: you load the plugin again, and you need to find the *real* error, which was before that message
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: what is the command for help on eqsets by bash
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Principium: "the had a previous error" part is important
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: bast
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try beq help
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: fake channel (at least tracker one by menda) works pretty well in latest IIRC, but sharptracker uses report channel as gt (or tracker)
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: get me the code and error messages
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Principium Tech: I have them, sorry my question wasn't elaborate enough :P
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: what was the help command for the eqsets?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: eqs help
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: anyone know how to turn off (end running) after I run?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: it's somewhere in tags. type tags for the list.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: nope, ive tried
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: did you recently disable a plugin?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or change clients?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: no, i havent done anything, just like it show up (end running) i was like where did it come from
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you're seeing that message show up, then something is wrong, and it may be difficult to figure out what. the message is caused by the mapper, but you should not be seeing it
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the mapper uses it to know when a long sequence of exits is finished
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: i know, i copied the mapper database from my main and i havent seen it there on my main, here just showed up like 2 days ago
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: how long has it been happening?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 2 days, eh
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: are you seeing you entered: echo {end running} or just {end running}?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: just end running
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: it looked like from aardwolf not my client
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes, the client asks the mud to echo it
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but you should never see it
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: its gone!
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: omg, i dont know what happened:p
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shotgun Tech: Fiendish happened :P
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type 'prompt data' and tell me what the last 5 characters of your rawcolor prompt looks like
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: obviously
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: i copied the excatly same prompt from my main
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sure, but please do it anyway just in case
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: its %c@w
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: %c@w is fine
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: its what i have on both prompts
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sometimes people have a hidden space after the %c and don't realize it, but then it would say %c @w
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or even %c@w @w
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: yeah, i know, annoying broken line
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: Seems I came in on the tail end of a mapper conversation that I should have been here for the entire time.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, if that's not it, then I don't have a good guess for now
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish raises an eyebrow at Aseigan's weird actions.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: neither do I. I just found it so weird that i asked 2 days ago, no answer, yesterday no answer today finally answer on my question but it disappeared
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: my wife complains about that too
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "her: I swear it was broken", "me: I guess I scared it away".
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: good one, haha
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if it happens again, maybe copy/paste a section of output where it happens and send it to me
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: i will do it
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hopefully I'll have more ideas about what could be causing it
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's called a PEBCAK error :P
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Or PEBKAC...seen it both ways
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: rofl. pebkac, I haven't heard that term in forever.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: excuse me, im sorta bad with lua terminology
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: problem exists between keyboard and chair
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I got to close a story at work today with literally "ID 10 T"
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's a tech joke, not related to Lua directly :P
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Dude reported his hardware wasn't working, so he sent it in. THERE WAS MOLD GROWING ON THE PCBS
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: He clearly got it wet...more than once
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: omg
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: uh. wow.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: What interested me though, is what was the mold eating in there to grow?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Surely they don't eat silicone substrates
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: silicon*
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: might be something that the owner dropped on the HD
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: This is a specialized embedded hardware for tracking Endurance Athlete races. He shouldn't have ever had it open anyways
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Also waterproof (to a degree, it's just housed in a pelican case)...so he managed to do...well everything that he shouldn't have.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: im sure he lost his warranty?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Not my department :P
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I just write code, and occasionally assemble the things.
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone have a good Lua technique for creating columns in a window (MUSHclient)?
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: thus far i have been doing string.format("%-12s", v.value)
T3/r7/2017-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: That's about the best way, honestly.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Heh, playing aard on a new Gaming keyboard, its backlit with rainbow colors, yet its very hard to get used to after 8 months of a normal keyboard
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Keys feels smaller and mre sprinngy
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: The one thing I distess is laptop keybaords, its raised to low and you cant get a good feel 
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: After wiing C drive and reinstalling windows 7 i ultimattely got rid of my malware, Whenever I connected to the internet by GPU usage sky rocketed to 99%. I suspect it was a bitcoin miner
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: - h10
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here for a bit
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: No problems ere, mush is running lke a dream
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: same i love it
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhale and Exhale Tech: Wel I like to find bugs and report them. Im dissapointed atm
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Also taking suggestions, per tech note 7505, on what should happen before asking Lasher to review an update for the aardwolf website
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: does it involve completing Mount Midori-yama in a Ninja Warrior challenge
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if not add that
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: I was curious as to why there is no auto updater for the client?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: There is.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Well, not fully auto, you have to download, but you can install right over
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: But he tried the auto-update, and it failed.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wrote one, but there were too many complications from different operating system versions for me to deal with on my own.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: (Failed as a project in general, not speaking to his skill)
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Ah okay, just always wondered that. Ty for the response :)
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so now I have an installer that will update any previous version to the latest
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: iPhone question time: manage storage says I have 11.69GB used and 136.1MB available. when I add everything up that it lists, I only get 7.5GB. where's my other 4GB of space?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Get something other than an iPhone
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Reserved system storage
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: iOS
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: for updating the iOS
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if I update to the newest iOS, do I get my bitz back?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Usually, the new iOS is bigger than the previous iOS
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: No, apple intentionally includes more and more bloat to phase out older phones.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: iOS likes to download the update and have it sit there until I delete or install it.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: not even being a hater...although I am..that's true
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Google is telling me 10.3 does free up space though relative to 10.2.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's a lie
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I like my Nexus 6. It just got 7.1.1 yesterday.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger gives you a cake.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I've had cake. not all cakes are lies.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'm still rocking a Note5 :P
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: What you had wasn't cake. Merely the shadow of the uncertainty of cake on the 3rd dimension.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cheezburger: Still on 6?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Hell if I know, I don't update because then I gotta re-root it
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: alright well I just deleted all of the music from my phone. maybe that will force me to re-install iTunes on my PC and actually update my phone.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger sighs.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: All the sheeple
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I've used multiple Android phones and multiple iPhones. I prefer iPhone for personal use.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Android for me.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I never liked my Galaxy 7
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger moves poop!  . ..<<!Boomsplat!>>.. .
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: err wait, it was the Note7 that sploded right?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yeah, the note. the regular 7 was fine :p
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Like I said, still rocking a Note5... I don't know anymore :P
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's so perfectly suited for playing pokemon on the pooper.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I have a Kyocera Duraforce now and like it better except for the fact that the volume buttons don't change "alert" volume for some weird reason.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: No dropdown arrow on the volume dialog?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: there is when it pops up on the screen but why would I only want to quickly turn down some volume?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I like that feature, TBH. It allows me to lower music volume, but still have my alarm or phone ringer able to be heard
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: like playing pokemon on the pooper
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it's a weird, unintuitive design decision.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I really like Apple's UI on the phone. I want things to be quick and not have to spend a lot of time customizing things. just personal preference.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I would vote yes on shitter being a violation
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: omg
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm so dumb.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is it possible in MS Word to have words to be large and decrease in size as it goes from left to right?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Not without a word art
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Some word arts do exactly that, though
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cheezburger: Thanks. I thought it was in there. However, it is 2013. So, it is hidden.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 5 minutes, mushclient questions go.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: What are you thoughts on intergrating S/D as part of the base client?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SnailImm Anaristos peers intently at Dethavin.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: need to make a trigfer to retreat <e n w s> whatever i input then it keeps trying to go the direction if it fails of whatver direction i input
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I can elaborate if you want
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: I can't remember if I pitched this idea to you or if it was anothe idea...but it would really like to be able to toggle which info messages are on the communication chat window and which infos are only in the main window. 
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: No.. no need not after the staring I just got *hides in corner*
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is there an easy way to see the status of triggers/timers/aliases in a plugin?  All of that info is easily available in the main script, but you have to get that data programatically in a plugin.  I'm thinking about making a plugin to report that info for debugging purposes.  Does something like that already exist?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: To elaborate, I'll do it when Lasher asks me to do it.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: You mean with the somewhat newish info subdivisions?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Shaelynne ^
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: yeah. so I want info on the comm log for a lot of stuff, but man levels/pups spams it out so badly i have to turn them off
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Yeah. I do need to add controls for those. I just haven't gotten thre yet
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: and it'd be nice to see when my friends die on my chat window so I could help them....but everyone else can die on my main screen. 
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: just gag those specific ones if you don't want to see them
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: one of the main pain points for plugins is that stored data isn't readily visible
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: for instance I put a lot of extra labor into the text substitution plugin just to be able to add/list/remove the subs and gags that had been stored
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: no easy way around that really, except to write some code to list the things you want listed
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: any luck on the retreat option?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: you might try MUSHclient's built in debug function though
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: try typing \\\Debug("summary")
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: \\\Debug("summary")
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: oops :)
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: the list of plugins will have some hyperlinks Al Va Tr (alias, variable, trigger, ...)
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ooh.  That looks interesting.  Thanks, I'll play around with that.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Limunious: sorry was there a question?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: In public please
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what do you mean luck?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: pffft secret questions! 
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: having a retreat trigger in aardmush, is ridiculous
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Oh. You want help writing a retreat script?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: need help writing a retreat trigger/script i would like to have it work like I ((( ret (direction)  then i put in the possible fails and if one of the fails happen it tris the direction again
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Well, I don't know what the output of retreat is exactly, but there are two possible scenarios...
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: If a retreat failure tells you which direction you tried, then you only need a simple trigger
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when the trigger detects a failure in a particular direction, try again.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh sorry i mised up your Q with the s&d integration Q.  apologies for sounding stupid
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Otherwise you need an alias and a trigger, where the alias stores the direction and then the trigger uses the stored direction
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i need the latter option
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Limunious: this sounds a bit similar to the targeting alias demo. One sec.
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8084  <- this link has instructions for making an alias that assigns something (in your case, a direction) to a variable that you can then reference in a trigger
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks!  and it will include in case it fails to right?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: At the end of the instructions, where it says to make an alias that sends "kick @target", you will instead make a trigger that matches on the failure message and sends "retreat @target"
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: In the target alias, instead of matching on "target *", you would match on "retreat *"
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Hopefully that makes sense
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: it does and then do it for multiple different failure message?
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know what failure messages there are, but I suppose so yes
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if there is more than one, you'll want a trigger for each or a way to write a trigger pattern that matches them all using some more complicated regex
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks man!  
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: more info about Debug -> https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=Debug
T3/r7/2017-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok signing off
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Why am I getting plugin error messsages? I didn't change anything.
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Like half my plugins aren't loading, my tick timer, my S&D, and my status bar is stuck and immoval on the middle of my screen
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: omg you can get lua to return values like a function really should be able to
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: does dsub work in the blowtorch version of lua?
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: is there a way that i can type K and kill a mob in the room with evil alignment without typing its name
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: how or is there website that i can learn
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you would need to consider/look/scan the room, then use the output to populate a variable
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need process items enclosed in roomchars tags
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: hmm let me re ask this i am a super noob with anything about the mush client or coding and would like some help to be able to do that K thing
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: do a google search for mushclient triggering, there is a whole forum devoted to doing stuff in mushclient, not all aard-based
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: not sure if there is something out there that targets only certain align
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: even if its like the first mob in room that would be fine with me
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: ill look at that website thank you guy/girls
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is conw plugin: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=9681
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: when you enter a room it sends "con", then loads mobs into window, so you can just click mob to kill
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: ahh ill look into that also 
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: using roomchars is smarter, but that Aardwolf_Consider_Window is a good start
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: geez. is 7 years old and i paid 15k for this to be written:)
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you cannot code or not willing to do so - just pay other player for it
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you ask bing , then "conw mushclient" will also give you auto room nuker , it seems it was based on  that consider_window
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: trachx i did what the thing said to install the update but it gave me an error
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sorry cannot help you with that plugin, I guess it should work with some old version of mush
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: as i typed this it also said compile error immediate execution
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think you could copy-paste error message on pastebin, so maybe there will be somebody that will help you with that
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: what do i copy tho i did the whole thing in the brown box
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually you just copy-paste whole message so for example if you do echo "start", then load plugin, echo "end" - you copy paste whatever is between "start" and "end"
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, you need put plugin source on https://pastebin.com/
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: okay ill read up and try it out thank you for your time 
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just try it, type : echo "start" 
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that will just cause mud to display "start", you can use say "start" and say "end" as well, that is just so you know what to cut (everything between "start" and "end")
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: i get this 
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: Compile error
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: lol that did not work hehe
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: its okay ill mess with things and hope it works out
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that "compile error" contains more details, like line or exact error message
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is why you need to put both plugin source and whole error message
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: like u want to see the error?
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: lol this is over my computer smarts i think ill just give up :P 
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: which plugin did you try, can you link it ?
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=9681
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: i copyed tho whole thing in the brown bow.. then made a notpade .xml file and put it into plugins folder then in mushclient opened file/plugins then added that file then BOOM error
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: box*
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: im wondering if i should have copy starting from when it says < trigger > or would it not have matterd
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: nah there is a bug in the plugin
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: gimme a second
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: line 448 sPat = "[%w\-]+$" needs an extra slash like this sPat = "[%w\\-]+$" the same applies to line 450
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: change those and it dhould load fine
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: so ill just have to add a \ on like 450
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: ill try it now
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: so now its says consider_window.xml installed added plugin
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: sounds like it worked maybe
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just enter some room and you should see new miniwin with mobs
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: i dont see the mini window
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is possible that it is behind other windows
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if that plugin was loaded then it created mini win
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try Window -> Cascade (warning: it will break your current layout)
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: okay i see a very little window that says consider all (kill)
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just go to some area with mobs
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: but i dont change as i walk around oz
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try: con
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: nothing its still the same
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: it should open a small window called consider all in the top right
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try: conw
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: yeah i got the small window that says consider all (kill)
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: YESS!!!!!! conw works
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess you need use "conw auto" for auto refresh
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: how do i do conw auto refresh
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: "conw auto" should switch on/off auto consider
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: its on now but does not change the small box
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: nvm this is awsome already thank you all for ur time this is really cool :)
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: change match="\[Exits\:.+$" to match="\[ Exits\:.+$"  <---- space before E
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then reload plugin
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: ill try that
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: yay it works lol but it give me extra promtps 
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: what is echo nhm 
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: man this is so cool thank you guys again 
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: i got the consider all pluging it works good but now i get this echo nhm and its like it pushes enter 3 times so it takes awhile to move between rooms is there a fix to that or is it just like that
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: so I'm working on adding the Aard consider window that was talked about here earlier, (and I've fixed the typos in it that were discussed before) but I can't get it to instal. I get a line 248: Error parsing script (Cannot load). This line is the begining of the CDATA block, and specifically is the <script> tag. That's all that's on the line. Any ideas? I copied the contents and the ONLY changes I made were those suggested for line 448 and 450 that were suggested earlier, so I'm not sure what's wrong. 
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: try this one https://pastebin.com/VQwg5Cd9
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: hah, it loaded
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: thanks!!!
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: your welcome
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tavvia Tech: In Mudlet with the MAG script, how can I stop shift+letter moving me in a random direction?
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tavvia Tech: e.g. shift+a moves me west, shift+e moves me up, etc.
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: those aren't random directions, sounds like a wasd setup from first person shooters
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i think tavvia understands that, but doesn't want the functionality
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tavvia Tech: Yes, how do I stop it?
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tavvia Tech: It's annoying if I'm typing a tell/channel message, and suddenly I'm in a room with an aggro mob!
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: not a lot of mudlet users these days. i'm trying to look around for an answer
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: are these things listed in the keys section of the mudlet settings? (gotten there by clicking the keys button at the top)
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tavvia Tech: Yes.  Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tavvia Tech: It worked.  Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: np. mudlet does have a wiki manual, but it is pretty general in explanation
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrPeanut Tech: how long are idle characters retained in the system
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: check out 'help archive''
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: after almost 20 years, we had to start archiving unused newbie accounts because it was getting hard for people to create new characters with sensible names.
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: yeap all the good names like Mendaloth were taken!
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrPeanut Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrPeanut Tech: that was what I was going to name this character
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: ok so I have win10 and i think it sucks? How do I clean out cookies and why is it so damn laggy lol
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: could the lag be due to your computer not being able to handle everything you're running? how much RAM do you have? what's your processor speed? etc. win 10 runs great on my machine with 8GB of RAM and a quadcore 2.8 GHZ processor.
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Slightly laggy here also -- Saturday is when more movie streamers access the internet
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: doesn't akamai cache video?
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on where you're streaming from...but caching video only impacts the streaming servers, not the rest of the Internet access...
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there is a Movies+TV streaming product sold that uses the internet - as more of those units are sold, anticipate more lag, especially in net-neutrality is gone
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: akamai's business is to stream from "closer to you", and to take load off backend servers...but if everyone in your neighborhood is streaming video (or sucking torrents, etc.), it'll still impact your Net experience because you're all coming down one "uplink" pipe ("neighborhood" being defined differently for various providers and technologies)
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the product sells for a once-only price of $200 $250 $300 (depending on internal ram) and does not require payments to SatelliteTV and cableTV 
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there is a $25 pwer month optional option for access to 500 tv channels -- which is far far cheaper than what some TV providers are charging
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: i thought akamai added servers as needed to comply with TOS
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: adding servers has nothing to do with it, mudd...again, that just takes load off the provider's backend, it doesn't help if your Internet is slow...
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: are you slowing down the internets again
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: i'll do my part & turn off the Big'Uns channel
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the $25 per month provider uses that revenue to pay other channel providers for legal permission to access those 500 channels
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if everyone on your street [using the same provider] is using max bandwidth, it'll impact everything you do online...whether the thing you're trying to access subscribes to akamai's content distribution network or not, and there's nothing akamai or anyone else can do about it (except increase pipes or decrease "cell" size)
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xyliz: the question becomes: "are those 500 channels the ones I actually care about, or are they just filler to inflate numbers?"
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Never Level Tech: does anyone know of a good plugin to help sort aarch items ?
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What do you want to sort by?
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Never Level Tech: by number would be good. its a pain to do it with the current keywords they have
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sorted by number: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Main/Aarchaeology
T3/r7/2017-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Never Level Tech: that info is also found on help aarch rewards. but thats not what im looking for
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: how do you unlock miniwindows from being moved?
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it's all in how they are coded.  what window?
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: My stat bar - it teleported to the middle of my screen and I locked it in position so it can't be moved around, which means I can't dragi t back.
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Aliphant Tech: Never mind, got it - aard layout unlock
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i see theres 192 players online and 188 use compression, so obviously the rest is using telnet since this program dont compress?
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: this is peculiar. playing a proper 3d game. capping 30fps is so much more relaxing on the eyes than uncapped
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the 30fps is likely more synced with the 60 hertz of the north american electricity system (if the cheaply-designed monitor or tv is synced to the 60 hz)(50 hz in europe australia)
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Angel Castiel Tech: Anyone know why mush would say a plugin's state file is not an xml file?(It wasn't modified and has the .xml extension)
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: what's this state file have in it?
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Angel Castiel Tech: Saved variables. It's happening for every plugin.
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: do the files have the xml header? something like this: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and possibly this: <!DOCTYPE muclient>
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and maybe even this : <muclient>
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you might have had something come through and strip that out/remove the header?
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Angel Castiel Tech: has the first two (xml version="1.0" and !DOCTYPE muclient
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: is this file one you can redownload from somewhere?
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Angel Castiel Tech: Backup of mush worked, i'm just curious why all of the plugins(not just one individual plugin) would suddenly throw this error.
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you had mentioned the state file wasn't the only one with this behavior?
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you have a backup of the whole mush dir?
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: my guess is something modified the core expected format for plugin files
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it's unlikely something changed all of your plugin files
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Angel Castiel Tech: I keep several, but the problem was on someone else's mush. They had a backup of the whole mush folder, yea
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but he's talking about the state files, which reside else where
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: are you on windows and did you download the files? they could be flaged as dangerous by windows
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: what happens if you delete the state files and start again
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Angel Castiel Tech: windows 8
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: right click one of them and look for something about security on the general page, can't remember the name
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Angel Castiel Tech: Says it happened when he installed plugins on the backup. Gave an error, but reloading the plugin a second time fixed it.
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: good to hear its solved then
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Angel Castiel Tech: Any idea what would have caused it?
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: either a mismatch between plugin and state file or maybe access rights
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: access rights sounds likely given that the file was transferred elsewhere
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: reinstall likely recreated the file with him as owner
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arch-Angel Castiel nods.
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: state file also stores the mush version
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so if that differed/or he upgraded after the fact, could have caused a problem
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Angel Castiel Tech: He says same mush version before and after("exact same one I was always using")
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: usually the "not an xml file" message is because of how you download a plugin, messing with some of the characters (the < and > being turned into fancy versions) or end of line characters
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Angel Castiel Tech: He says it worked this morning, he went out, came home and all his plugins threw that error.
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: another thing that could do it is if you're using something like dropbox, and have it opened on multiple computers, or open it on the second one before it's done syncing
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: anyone around that can help me figure out why the gaardian's site won't work for me?
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: change your DNS server
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Define "doesn't work for you"
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: clear cache, etc
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: ERR_NAME_RESOLUTION_FAILED
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: i refer you to my first suggestion
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: that's the error I get. I googled it. looks pretty straight forward.  thank you
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: looks like I need to raise my administrator settings (weird) to reset winsock
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I have to do the same when I hack the mainframe.. so makes sense to me..
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: I'm a lawyer, not a techie.  the techie went to work :(
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: if you can make it through law school, i should hope you can follow googled instructions
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: Oh I can :) just googled it again.  restarting.  Thanks for helping.  I'm also running on little sleep.  Working fulltime with a newborn around
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: typically if you have a connection but can't resolve a website, you just need to change your DNS server (usually you want to automatically detect, or set to Google's DNS)
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: brb
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: googling those will give you instructions
T3/r7/2017-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: alright after restarting my computer (wow windows updates, thanks) I updated the DNS and got it fixed.  thank you all for your assistance!
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: anyone knows how can i get the map back on mushclient, seems to have lost it
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the point and click one?
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: yup
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: press ctrl+shift+p and check that aardwolf_gmcp_mapper is in the list and enabled
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: it is enabled
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: all my other windows are ok, some how the mapper dispeared
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: then it sounds like it is hiding
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: or try reloading it
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and by hiding i mean behind some other window
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: i have a feeling that it has gone off my screen, previously i was using 27inch monitor, now i am on a laptop
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: which i cant drag it back when i cant see it
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you can reset the layout with aardreset or resetaard  i can never remember which it is
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: yes! its resetaard, now i see it :)
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: thank you :)
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you're welcome
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Anyone here used reactjs?
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tearlach shakes his head.
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I went through a Windows 10 update, and now I have lost the status bar from the bottom of Mushclient
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: how do I get it back?
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: resetaard?
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost thanks No Offense Cheezburger heartily.
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: is there a command to turn on and off entire groups of triggers?
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: in mushclient
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yes, you use the groupname part in each trigger and hten for example EnableTriggerGroup('HunterGroup',false)
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: where it says false you can replace with 1/0 as well
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: awesome so that can be done from command line as well as from a script
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You can do it from the command line if you prepend it with ///
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I had seen it from plugins but didnt realize it worked from command line as well
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: \\\
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Sorry, yeah \\\
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa smiles happily.
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger is too used to Unix.
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: nice
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa rapidly nods twice at No Offense Cheezburger, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you could write an alias that takes the inout to swithc it, for example hunting 1 would swithc huntinggroup on and hunting 0 would turn it off
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but what happens when a groupname trigger is turned off while that groupname trigger is active in midprocess of input from the server
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it finishes running the current function and doesn't fire any more after that
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: for me I want certain spellup stuff on when CPing, but off when XPing
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: maybe, but the old zmud never seemed work properly if trigger classes were turned on and then soon off somewhat rapidly - state-variables were safer
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but then the old zmud suffered from "forgetting what was being done" glitches in some circumstances, usually when overwhelmed by too much input from the server
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and turning trigger-classes on or off seemed plagued by a delayed response or didn't do the flip 
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: state-variables get updated immediately, so no delayed response
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: im getting back Got a bad item, rerequesting inventory data for Inventory after trying to check inventoryu
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: what pluggin is causing this
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sorry can you repeat the question?
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: inventory serials plugin, maybe?
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: bast's eqdb
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: tried reinstalling and removing eqdb 
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: even when i remove it still shows up
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well itd def eqdb.xml, not sure about the rest
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: hmm..
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: try "eqdb refresh" ?
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: still same result
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if it were uninstalled, then that command wouldnt work
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you uninstalled it thru plugins menu?
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: reinstalled int
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: reinstalled it
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: when i remove it it returns nothing when i type in inv
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: no error nor inv
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no idea whats causing that, but you should see your inventory
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Without seeing your complete plugins list, it's very difficult to give you an informed answer.
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: i just installed a fresh mushclient (havn't played in years) and I was just installing plugging started with bast broadcasting pluggings
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'm willing to take a look via Teamviewer, if you want.
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: installed the inventory miniwindow from bast and it is able to read the items i have, but the command inv still wont show anything
T3/r7/2017-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: sure Metria would be aweasome
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: does mushclient still require tags to be on?
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: is there a site with a turorial on how to write code for blowtorch plugins somewhere?
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khalad Tech: l
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Looking for suggestions on a grep program that will grep lines directly from a text file. Most of the ones I've seen so far only grep files, not actual text within a file.
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Grep....
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: grep "mySearchString" /path/to/file
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm not certain I understand...grep does exactly what you want
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I should specify 1) Windows and 2) looking for a gui program. Had one years ago, forgot what it was.
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: PowerCmd grep
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Windows 10*
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Why GUI?
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: grep for windows is command line
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: But busybox gives full *Nix grep
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: explorer with indexing?
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but you just do "grep string *.log > grep_out.txt"
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: That will work.
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Forgot about > operator.
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Does ">" work in windows?
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, i'm one of today's 10,000.
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Although the GUI program I had before would show me the contents rather than write to a file and let me highlight/copy what I wanted to keep. Heh.
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I kind of miss it.
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe read that one: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/87350/what-are-good-grep-tools-for-windows
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I've been using Ammonite as a bash replacement lately so I'd just do `ls.rec!.filter(x => x.contains("mySearchString")).map(x => //whatever I want to do to each file)
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's pretty nice that it gives me Bash utils, but also a full Scala REPL-interface to do stuff with.
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but it looks so complicated
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it's not if you're familiar with scala. ls.rec! returns a List[FilePointer], filter removes unwanted ones form the list, map transforms the list however I want.
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I mean I could also just do `%bash("grep -r "searchString" . > found.txt")` too, but then I can't keep around the results in a nice List
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sometimes I am afraid of too powerful shells
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think that recent bash version have some kind of context TAB completion, when I accidentaly press it then it starts doing its "context dependent action" and it takes soo much time
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: while I just wanted to get file name completion
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Most shells do
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: especially with that systemctl thing
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: For Example if you type "t" and hit tab, it's looking for commands that start with "t" which for me returns "tt++, tty, tbl, etc"
T3/r7/2017-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: but if you type git and then hit tab, it'll only show git commands
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Store it in a map Map("time1" -> kills, "time2" -> kills, "time3" -> kills)
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: how do you make a trigger a plugin? Ive been gone far to long
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: What client?
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: mush
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: CTRL_SHIFT_7 iirc
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: thankyou 
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So, I got bored at work today, an emulated the emergent properties of a deck of cards in Scala. I kept to the functional paradigm (except for the singular usage of Random.shuffle), can be deal X number or cards to N number of players, again all functionally...however I ran into an issue of maintaining a Game state. Essentially after making a deck of cards, I now want to play games with it be it Blackjack, Texas Hold'em, etc but I still want to do it functionally, and would prefer to avoid a massive list of rounds that needs to be recalculated each time. Thought?
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The code for reference: https://github.com/DeveloperMeier/CardsInScala
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: my initial thought is that you have too much free time at work :p
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I needed a break from Javascript
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it also only took about 20 minutes
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Most of that was the tedium of defining the cards themselves :P
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: So you were bored at work and did something tedious?
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: tedious things can be relaxing
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's been kind of stuck in my head since I learned about this magic trick that requires no manipulation or trickery, just the properties of a deck of cards itself, to work.
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So i was like "I could do that in code"
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Beyond my understanding in coding.
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The only part that's even remotely hard to understand, IMO, is the "deal" function in the Deck class.
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: But that's because it uses foldLeft magic :P
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: maybe he wants to deal from the bottom of the deck
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You could do that, you'd just pass "deck.reverse" to it
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: more interesting is how to prove whether internet gaming (blackjack poker) are using virtual cheating to fleece the customers
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: because audits...
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger slaps Xyliz.
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Casino games are already fleecing the customers even without rigging the code
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You really just use any opportunity for the wildest of tangents, dontcha
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: really interesting how I pay so much in taxes yet women don't throw themselves at me
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Pass less to taxes and more to hookers?
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm looking for more of a "willingly throw" and less of a "reluctantly accept bribe"
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Raded just wants a woman.....
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Welp, you're kinda SOL until you reincarnate into something...more appealing :P
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "did you try e-Harmony" 
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: e-Harmony rejected his credit card.
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the facial recognition on his windows pc wont let him sign up for dating sites
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I can't tell if Turie thinks I'm super rich or thinks I'm broke and living in my mom's basement
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Neither. I think you live in a shack somewhere in Oregon making moonshine and telling stories of yester-year.
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Can't you be super rich in your mom's basement?
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: hey I don't make moonshine
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is what she said.
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's not moonshine, because he makes it when the sun's out!
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: he makes sunshine
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: raded is coffee and beer poor.  #hipsterlife
T3/r7/2017-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Could be "Dewshine".
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Flood remediation advice and MUSHclient questions answered
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khalad Tech: Is there a command that can be input that immediately clears all prior inputs in mushclient? 
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Not that I'm aware of.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: I do not understand
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Do you mean cancel stacked commands?
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: He wants to get rid of command history so that the up/down arrows no longer remember them
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Oh
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khalad Tech: Say I hit cast fireball 4 times, but need to heal and cant wait for all the fireballs... could i enter a command that cancels the fireballs and quaffs the potion now?
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Oh, what I said then
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: oh nevermind
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You can disconnect
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: disconectting kills stacked commands
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Yes, disconnect and re-log
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: That would also remove the 'quaff' command in the stack, so you'll have to do it again
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger nods at Tricksy Bamboo.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Ctrl + Shift + K    => disconnect
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Ctrl + K    => connect
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: for mushclient, I presume
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: It is for Mushclient, yes
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Flood remediation and MUSHclient questions answered here.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The church of  Fiends is now allowing sanctuary.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: How do I play a sound in mush script (lua)?
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Found this: PlaySound (1, "boing.wav", false, 0, 0)  
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Doesn't work. Put sound file in root folder, sounds folder, plugins folder
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Try using the full folder path name.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: How do I do that in mac? Sorry
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I don't know, not familiar with mac drive structure.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: it is a linux folder structure
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Can I do PlaySound (1, "../sounds/boing.wav", false, 0, 0)  
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Possibly.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Now back to crocheting a Batman stuffed figure for my friend's birthday.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Well somehow I think it's a file problem
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Tried the file on a trigger, didn't play
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Huh. Any file won't play
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Restarting mush
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Sound plays fine now, with "../sounds/file.wav"
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Glad you got it working.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: if i uncheck enable_trigger for one trigger, all triggers are disabled -- is that right?
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: If you're disabling it for just that trigger, then only that trigger is disabled.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: when i uncheck enable_trigger for one trigger, it is unchecked for all triggers
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Where are you unchecking it?
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusty Shackleford Tech: There's a fairly easy way to test that, no? Not sure what client you're using, but couldn't you write a tick trigger and uncheck a different one? you'd have your answer in >30 seconds.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: the configure triggers dialog, next to the "Add" button
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Ah, yes, then it disables them all.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: tagging question - I have an audiobook on my plex library. All of the tracks are titled the same..."I love Aardwolf" or whatever, but I really need to change them to "Chapter 1. I love Aardwolf" "Chapter 2 I love Aardwolf" or just "Chapter 1" or just "1 - I love Aardwolf" or something anything to distinguish them when im looking at hte tracks on my phone. I'm on a mac... any suggestions besides manually changing every single track. 
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: Throw mac in trash, buy real computer.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusty Shackleford Tech: Could you write a bash script to change the file names? 
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusty Shackleford Tech: I don't use plex, so no idea if that's what you're describing.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i use 'mp3 book helper'
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Plex knowledge isn't required.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shaelynne nods at Acidrayne Arcidayne.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rusty Shackleford shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Basically, she wants something that will easily convert the tags into a file name of Chapter 1 - I love Aardwolf, or vice versa.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusty Shackleford Tech: Well, that I dunno. 
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: it may not do what you want, but it titles them in order.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: looking at book helper....haven't tried it before so it might 
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: hrm appears to be a windows only format, bummer
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Shaelynne: I haven't looked too deeply into this, but maybe this will help: https://www.reddit.com/r/PleX/comments/5yv7ge/i_built_a_metadata_agent_for_audiobooks/
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tatsuo Tech: The title is very encouraging.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: aweseome thank you 
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: i surrender
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: regex: foo (.*)
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: string: foo command
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: i want to return: cast '%1'
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Okay. You have Regex ticked?
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: i love an easy solution
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: so the link Arc gave me will be awesome when im pulling a full chapterized audiobook, but I typically find non-chaptereds books and divide them into 30m books with an audiosplitter. I tried MP3Tag using wine and it works great, just wanted to share.thanks 
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: thanks for sharing, my mp3 book helper has helped me a lot before, but it is no longer being updated for a long time.  so yea, i'll look into that. 
T3/r7/2017-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: http://theaudiobookaddict.blogspot.com/2013/05/tag-youre-it.html  - this was the exact link i followed for the info and then downloaded it
T3/r7/2017-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: Anyone use Yubikey?  I have spent hours trying to get it to do basic things like OS X authentication and LastPass authentication, and running into nothing but problems :/
T3/r7/2017-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Anyone know of a 4 port usb hub that is all in a row?
T3/r7/2017-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Plenty of them.
T3/r7/2017-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I have one myself, though I forget the brand.
T3/r7/2017-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: https://www.amazon.com/Anker-4-Port-Macbook-Surface-Notebook/dp/B00XMD7KPU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1504316566&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=4+port+usb+hub&psc=1
T3/r7/2017-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I have no idea about that url, but it's a regular usb connection
T3/r7/2017-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am sorry, I did not specify. I am looking for one on a board that is compatible to Linux/Raspberry Pi.
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dayport Tech: Does mushclient work on mac?
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: since no one is replying.  i don't use apple, but people say they use mushclient on apple thru wine.
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: I do like my apple wine
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dayport Tech: I wondered if that was what I needed
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: see:  https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Mac-and-Linux   
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: what was that command to reset the window layout?
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: xset window reset I believe
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: reset aard
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: on for S&D or mushclient
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: there we go
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: accidently moved my s & d window now i can't pull it back into view
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: bascially can't grab it
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: perfect thank you
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: sorry final question.. the window is kinda small.. anyway to expand it.. doesn't seem like i can enlarge it
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: there you are on your own, i don't use S&D
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nods thanks
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but have you tried right clicking etc to change the font or something like that?
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: you have to edit the plugin itself to change window size on that one
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: OK so i have a google drive account, and i have a google drive Drive on my laptop here, it is synced up.  how do i make it so i dont have to have access to the google drive in order to access the files?
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: is it possible or do i have to download everything indivdually
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Just copy them out of the google drive folder to another folder, unless I am misunderstanding what you want.
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i did that but it seems they always point back to the google drive
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: basically my personal drive has become our work drive
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: so i wanna grab my stuff out of it, but also leave it on drive.  when i made a folder and copied and pasted, when i open the folder it opens a url.  i guess i need to iscounned from internet and see what happens
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i cant even comprehend what your problem is
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Jaws of death yank you away from the exit!
T3/r7/2017-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo flails his arms about wildly.
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shellfishie Tech: hi, is anyone around who's familiar with manor upgrades please?
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shellfishie Tech: i just added new rooms to my new manor, but for some reason all the rooms don't show up on the minimap. is this typical?
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that can be related to exit flags
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: help I keep getting disconected from the game
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: what client are you using? do you get any message on disconnect?
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: I'm using mushclient.  No, my commands don't seem to be getting through and then I gett didsconnected
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Did you install any plugins?
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: hows your internet connection generally :p
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: I updated to latest berson of mushclient and transferedthe plugins that make mushclent accessible  Myinternet is fare 
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: so things were working fine before upgrade?
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: I was having the same issue. I thaut the older verson and windows 10 didn't like eachother, so I upgraded.
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: it may be an issue with connection itself then.
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: thanks, I will try sitting in the livingroom later on today and see if that helps
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: l
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Just keep asking for help when you need to. Most will try to help you.
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: im on phone and can only make one button any clue?
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: what client
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: i dont know says aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that is the blowtorch aard client
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: tht client isnt really kept up with, its just a custom blowtorch. download blowtorch off the app store
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: look for blow torch?
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: i use blowtorch 
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: yes!
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: theres a full helpful plugins you can get for it, including a seperate chat window
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: a few*
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: where do you find those Varrion?
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: i downloded it how i use it?
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: shindo theres a github i cant remember the name blockda or something like that
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: where the chat window? plugin?
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: google blowtorch plugins 
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: how i get on?
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: and kahl just set up a new connection hostname : aardwolf.org port: 4000
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: shindo theres also a decent auto hunt plugin for it
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: it didnt connect
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: host aardwolf.org port 4000 display arrdwolf
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: timed out
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: aardmud.org port 23  works
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: that works too. i use 4000 no problems
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: i must be doing something wrong
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: theres this grey box at the bottom i put info in to
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: think i have to deleat other arrd one?
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyrastia Tech: how do i see global quest announcements? I turned off global channel and turned it back on but i don't see announcements for quests. 
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: try: global
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh wait you said you already did that
T3/r7/2017-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyrastia Tech: yep it's kinda weird
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: how u set buttons in blowtorch?
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: press and hold
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: long press to make new ones or edit old ones
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: some cir le comes up and copys lines but thats it
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: i thought there's a command named "aardreset"? is it not working anymore?
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: try resetaard
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: damn!!!!!!! 
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: thanks LOL! silly me
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rhendadric smiles happily.
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: anyone has installed creator's update yet?
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: just wondering what is going to happen when it finds out I backed out the anniversary update.
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: I can't get the winkle winkle search and distroy to load
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: don't ask us to feel bad about that :)
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: will the mapper not map a cexit that passes through a nomap room at all
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: if you only pass, it will map it allright
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: if that's the destination, and there are more than one room with the same name, it will also map it, but it won't be able to use it
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: this one is passing it to a room with a unique name but not saving the exit
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: to avoid that, make a longer cexit (so it will get to a room with a real id)
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: thats what i did
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: no. map a cexit that'll include run nenwn :)
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: shrug
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: it will start in a room with an id, and it will end in a room with an id
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: the one im trying does start in a room with an id and end in a room with an id
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: it will also be rather useless at the right levels, since you'll be aggroed during the execution of the cexit, and it won't be able to pick it up :)
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: there are no agros in the one im making
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: ah i see there are 2 waits in my cexit but its failing after the first wait
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: sounds like a bug
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: or maybe i misinterpret wait
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: | livingmine | On the fringes of th |   37000 | run nenwn      |   37006 |
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: thats nice liber
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: so it works. no waits needed (with the caveat mentioned before)
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: dude the one im doing is going to require a wait. im not doing that one
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: so the issue is the one im doing has two waits and the cexit command is failing after the first wait
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: it thinks its done
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: you might be looking for: mapper cexit_wait <seconds>    --> Wait the given number of seconds instead of the standard 2 when constructing the next cexit (between 2 and 30)
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: ah thats right it doesn't incorporate the included waits into the total cexit_wait
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: got it, thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: been a while since ive needed to make anything slightly complex like this
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FaeQueen EmmyLou Tech: does anyone know if there are any plugins for Mush that would create buttons one could use in combat...similar to aliases but clickable for someone who's visually impaired?
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: you can use keypad
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: you could use keybindings, yeah.
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FaeQueen EmmyLou Tech: is there a help on that topic?
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/macros.htm
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FaeQueen EmmyLou Tech: thanks a bunch :)
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FaeQueen EmmyLou Tech: looks like he thinks that might work, y'all might be seeing more of my hubby now
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: Anyone know who has the mush plugin that allows you to create notes on players and renders on finger?
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Mendaloth?
T3/r7/2017-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: That's it :) thanks Turie
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: anyone know if there any level/pup time scripts?
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: have you looked at Bast's stuff?
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: anyone got Basts broadcast_level working? Seems to install fine but nothing seems to happen on level
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sbye Tech: test
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sbye Tech: the game doesn't respond to my input sometimes, like when writing in chat or giving commands. Anyone got any idea why?
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sbye Tech: is there a way I can check my ping? maybe this is the reason
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: open cmd window, type ping aardwolf.com
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: of course you can always ping
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: first try echocommands   to see if htey arrive
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: itd be aardmud.org though not aardwolf.com wouldn't it
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sbye Tech: 262 and 327. 262 is something I'd expect usually but 327 is a bit much even by my standarts
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: still not something you'd notice as unresponsive
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: try echo like shindo suggested
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sbye Tech: I'll keep an eye on echocommands, thank you
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: shino so smart.
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, when typing into chats, does the text go into the bottom command input window as you type? if that's where the delay is, then that's before MUSHclient even attempts to send anything to the MUD
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sbye Tech: no delay there of any sort
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: well there's some delay for sure ;)
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sbye Tech: it was only a vague feeling that i got into a room full of nerds when i saw the message "of course you can ping", but now i'm pretty sure about that
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sbye Tech: not in a bad way though, i like nerds
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sbye Tech: even if i'm not one
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sbye Tech: some of the commands do not arrive according to echocommands
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sbye, are you on mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sbye Tech: though directional ones have yet to fail me. it probably doesn't matter if i use numpad for them but i am
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sbye Tech: i am
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Type config, look at your prompts at the bottom do they all have %c at the end?
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If I had to guess, you are sending the commands and they are being recieved, but something is gagging everything....next time it happens type "gt test" and see if you see the message in your comm log (assuming you have that open).
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sbye Tech: >%c is what i have there
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: On both game prompt and battle prompt?
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sbye Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sbye Tech: i'll try to do what you suggested next time it happens
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Might not be it then!  Odd, I would try the gt trick though next time....I've mudded in some bad conditions and never had an issue with it not getting my commands when I'm connected.
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Did you install any plugins, or just on default install?
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sbye Tech: i tried to install all of the included ones some time ago, but many of them ended up with errors so i redownloaded client. should be fresh install (unzip more like) now unless plugins are installed somewhere else than the mushclient folder
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sbye Tech: message did arrive. for now it's the speedwalk <short name of a location> that keeps failing me consistently, and chats, rarely. nothing gamebreaking so it's not that bad maybe, may as well just wait and see if it's not a net problems that'll go away later. thanks for the help either way
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sbye Tech: is it possible to disable certain channels in main window while still having them in the com log? with mushclient
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: right click on comm log and goto echo to main
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sbye Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: np
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: how to make sure a variable or string in a plugin is saved between sessions?
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i'd recommend taking a look at plugins you have with OnPluginSaveState() functions
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: paired with OnPluginEnable() and OnPluginConnect(), you can call saved variables
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: on pluginsavestate, is that called whenever I save world in mush?
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: don't try to reinvent the wheel. open one of the plugins you already use that saves info across sessions and search for the exact strings of what i said to get an idea of functionality. savestate saves when the user saves their client(or on close) and throws that info into a file in the states folder based on the plugin id and your plugin should use onpluginenable and onpluginconnect to call those variables back on connection to the game.
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: I find onpluginsave, but the plugins I have only loads under CDATA, that also works then?
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: whole <script> is included in CDATA
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: or rather <script> contains CDATA, which contains plugin source
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: as deuter says about cdata.
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i think you might be getting ahead of yourself and aren't familiar with the basic structures of a script and asking to do something 2 steps ahead of that process
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: most likely, hard to find tutorials and stuff for it though
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: in this case, you are looking at one part, where the plugin writer initially sets variables for his plugin so they exist and not differentiating those from when variable values are set within functions
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: the stuff at the beginning of the plugin is done that way so that there are default values and trying to avoid nil value errors
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: right, and they are always set when you enable/connect?
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Plenty of Lua tutorials, and plenty of examples for MUSH scripting....
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: I guess it's the combination of the two that is confusing me
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: right, but overridden by calls of onpluginenable() and onpluginconnect()
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: because those functions specifically call for values saved in another file if it exists
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: and the file is created by onpluginsavestate()
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: but you could basically do the same thing with assert (loadstring (GetVariable ("channelinfo") or "")) () ?
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: (MUSHclient) Has anyone noticed that timers continue to countdown after they are disabled? I have seen it count to 0 and stop, nothing gets executed but i thought it was odd
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaacobe Tech: sooo i have a query about my inventory not displaying properly. i am assuming this is something wrong with mushclient that i can fix on my end?
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaacobe Tech: i see this...
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaacobe Tech: [160/160hp 150/150mn 500/500mv 0qt 850tnl] > {invdata}
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you need to end your prompt with %c
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaacobe Tech: 1852340946,,Giant Slab of Granite,90,7,0,-1,-1
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaacobe Tech: hrm...i cant send it to you after all. 
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaacobe Tech: what do youmean end my prompt?
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it looks like a plugin is checking invdata, since that tag shows up at your prompt end
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaacobe Tech: sorry, i dont really know what that even means. i have mushclient but unless it comes with plugins already, then i shouldnt have any. i never installed any at least.
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: yeah that comes installed by default.
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: is it invmon?  ctrl-shift-p to see plugins
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You can remove it, press ctrl shift P and then remove Aard Inventory Serials
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: type config, and look at prompts at the bottom.
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaacobe Tech: i see the inventory serials
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaacobe Tech: what exactly does it do? am i going to miss it? it was working just fine just 30 minutes ago...
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: it shows object ids when you type inventory
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: so the mud only shows your item's level
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and name/item flags.  Fiendish's plugin shows the object id too.
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaacobe Tech: so when i get rid of it...i wont see object id's. I guess i dont know what those are. It sounds important lol is there a wayto fix it or should i just remove it and live without?  
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Object ID's let you get THAT SPECIFIC breastplate out of your bag, rather than having to figure out if it's 5.breastplate or 6.breastplate..
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: id an item in your inventory (id bag) you'll see a unique object id.
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaacobe Tech: sorry if i am giving you aneurysm over this. lol. where do i go to get different plugins? since this one broke on my RANDOMLY...i wouldnt mind trying that FIENDISH guy's plugin to replace it.
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sorry fiendish's one is the one installed by default. He is the author of the aard version of mushclient.
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If you want to give it a try I would just folow the advice about your prompt likely the cause..
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaacobe Tech: yeah idk what the prompt is
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaacobe Tech: do you mean like typing %c after i say inv?
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Like I said - type config,  Look at game and battle prompts.
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Is there a %c at the en of both!?
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: end...
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaacobe Tech: Your battle prompt is: [Fighting: %h/%Hhp %m/%Mmn %v/%Vmv %Xtnl%b ]> 
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: for example, mine ends in %c:  >>>> HP: %p %h/%H  MN: %P %m/%M %O%d   %T%c
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: So yeah take that, copy it, add a %c at the end and then type bprompt
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if you do "p data" you can copy the "Rawcolor Game Prompt" and paste it in with %c so.... "prompt <paste here>%c"  (no quotes)
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: with all that text with % at the end
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: same for bprompt  (battle prompt)
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaacobe Tech: like this? "prompt [Fighting: %h/%Hhp %m/%Mmn %v/%Vmv %Xtnl%b%c ]> "   and i'll just type that in and it will fix it?
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: add it after the bracket and symbol
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: close, but %c at the end after ]>
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaacobe Tech: got it
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: %c is a line break, so using it will cause a break at that point and start a new line
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: "help prompt" gives a lot of nice info, especially if you want to customize your prompt
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaacobe Tech: it said ... this... Enemy health %b or %B are no use in your main prompt. Use them in your battleprompt.   ... even though i typed %c ... though whehn i typed it for bprompt it worked fine. seemingly
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaacobe Tech: my inventory is still a mess though
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there are 2 listed, one regular and one battle
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: do them individually
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: There are two prompts, battle and regular, have to fix both.
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaacobe Tech: eyyyyyy you guys fixed the thing i understandso little about
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you fixed it! :p  we just helped
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaacobe Tech: thanks. i never knew this kind of stuff was editable by ourselves...i'll go read that help prompt thing to see what else i can potentially destroy. if that happens i'll be back XD
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: as long as you end your prompts in %c, GO NUTS
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Endymion.
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaacobe Tech: where did you guys learn to do this stuff, and how do you know what all to type in a prompt to make it...prompt you..with...stuff...? im interested in helping out with aard somehow but am not sure how i want to do that yet.
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaacobe Tech: i was thinking builder till i saw the in game tech support that no other game iver ever played in the universe has ever had XD
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: watching and learning mostly
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: tech channel has a lot of stuff come across, can pick up good info and tips
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: also question/answer channel
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaacobe Tech: so all the techs are self taught like the helpers are then?
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Not necessarily.
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Fiddling a little myself, listening to others' questions/answers, but honestly best way is to learn the game.  I'd start with the academy on that :)
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well there's lots of help files if you want to comb over them
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Helpers aren't self-taught, either.
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Basically, we all learn from each other.
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Helper school, it's on platform 13.5, just runto towards the wall very fast!
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaacobe Tech: ive been through the academy. there is noooo demo on editing prompts or self tech support XD if that was true this game would be truely unique!
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Not to be confused with 9 3/4s. That's a bogus school.
T3/r7/2017-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaacobe Tech: agree'd. i am already directionally challenged. no one to live in a place that morphs itsself.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: can i use an OR boolean in an if statement? i.e. if %1 = a or b, do X / else do Y
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: err in an alias, for example
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: in Mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: gotta repeat the %1, if %1 = a or %1 = b
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you can use full lua coding in the alias just send to script instead of send to world
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah each side of the or should be a standalone expression
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: you can do it in Lua
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'm not super familiar with Lua, but isn't = assignment? So you'd want == for equality
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: oh yeah, it's == in Lua. good call!
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: thanks.  i can still pass a variable to the alias with * and %1 yeah?
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it is sometimes easier to give it a name when using strings so first line would be MyVar = '%1'
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: yeah i've done that hmm
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sett Tech: the game doesn't respond to my input sometimes
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sett Tech: echocommand doesn't catch them when that happens and my mushclient is freshly installed, no internet problems too i think. anyone got any idea why is that happening?
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sett Tech: echocommand doesn't catch them when that happens and my mushclient is freshly installed, no internet problems too i think. anyone got any idea why is that happening?
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sett Tech: on snap
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sett Tech: oh*
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: I'm not sure entirely, but that's happened to me as well
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That sounds unlikely. It sounds more likely that it is client-side somewhere. 
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: I think so too, ixle. I'm not sure exactly what's up with it, but I haven't had it happen so much that I've really kept track of what's triggering it
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sett Tech: it shows the prompt but no echocommand
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Is it always the same or a subset of commands?
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sett Tech: a lot of them fail from time to time. even directions, more rarely though
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: This will be hard to troubleshoot so maybe it's best to post a note to a real expert.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Check out the tech board and note 7314 from Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'm running the risk of being unhelpful here so I'll just leave you with that :)
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: (I don't use Mush and I barely understand how my client works anymore)
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sett Tech: I'll have a look at it, thank you
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sett Tech: does deleting my client folder and downloading it again counts as clean install? if not that how do i delete my client and all it's options completely?
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sett Tech: talking mushclient there
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: In muschclient, some of my plugin windows are stuck in place. Is there a function key to click box and drag when that happens?
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: depends on the plugin you "lost" access to moving. if it is S&D window try xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: as a last resort i believ resetaard or aardreset will redo the whole gui
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: thanks again
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: When I write Lua using the editor Sublime, it doesn't use colors when writing functions. Anyone aware of an editor/option that will use colors? 
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Sublime will
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Bottom left corner, there's a filetype toggle
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Just set it to Lua
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: oh yeah? It does it above the <script> section but how can I toggle it below for stmts such as If/End For/Do?
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Well, that's because it's not Lua then :P
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's an XML file, it has mixed snytax, there's no way for it to know the plugin structure.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: z, you probably have it set on xml instead of lua
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Setting it to XML won't highlight the Lua properly, and setting it to Lua won't have proper syntax highlihgting because the XML confuses it
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: nod, i use notepad++ and it is one or the other, but both work properly depending on which setting you have it on
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I have a vim setup at home that works too
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa THWAPS No Offense Cheezburger for being a moron.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: supposed to keep the secret of vim private
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Also, if you combine all your Lua into a single Script file, and just use the XML to call the functions from the script, then you can get proper highlighting for both parts.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: thank you guys. I can toggle btwn XML and Lua depending on where I am editing
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malin Tech: could anyone point me to information for customizing mudlet client UI for Aardwolf? I'm new to MUDs and want to have a UI setup with a sticky map/character sheet, etc.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Any reason to not just use the MUSH package already built for aard?
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malin Tech: not sure what that is :)
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Mush is the main client on Aardwolf, the download page contains a pre-customized and scripted client specialized for aardwolf.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malin Tech: is that for Mac?
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: ish..
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it works under wine just fine
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: But the aard wiki also includes Mudlet info: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MudletAardwolfGUI
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: i use mudlet at work on a mac
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malin Tech: I was looking at that URL but the info seemed ancient
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's as good as it gets
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: its alright for what i need. i cant get fancy here, it looks like my coding program
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: There isn't a ton of support for Mudlet, mostly just Mush.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malin Tech: hmmm, alright.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Then you should use tt++ Tearlach :P
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's what I do so it still looks like I'm writing code
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: haha
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: I use tf
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malin Tech: anyone use Mudlet Aardwolf GUI?
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malin Tech: I got the game client to work with Wine and everything configured, but my healthbar plugin disappeared. any idea how to fix?
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: resetaard?
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malin Tech: excellent. thank you!
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: abelnc, my  key doesnt work
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: what do  do
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: your I key?
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: yes, my  key
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: you could try to pop it off with a screwdriver and clean underneath it. 
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: t's a macbook, you dont touch those wth a screw drver
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: maybe try to clean around it with a dull knife.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: dont have a knfe
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I personally don't know of any software issues that make your I key unusable.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: abelnc mght know
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NotGod Pleiades Tech: he's our only hope
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Byrnatha nods.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigole Bitties Tech: is there a command you can add to tell cmud not to use an alias?
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigole Bitties Tech: like if you have an alias with keyword ball, is there a symbol you can put in front of it to skip the alias of the same name ball?
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I don't know,b ut you could turn off parsing temporarily
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You can start the line with ~ to avoid using aliases in it. Or anchor your aliases.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: If you anchor your aliases, then you won't have to worry about firing it if you type 'I want to throw the ball.'
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: https://www.zuggsoft.com/zmud/help6/Special_.htm
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Just throw a ^ in front of it.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: But Arc already broke it down
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Also if it's anchored you can always append a space, and it won't be a literal match but the mud will accept it fine
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: prepend*
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malin Tech: anyone know what programming language was used to make this game?
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: C?
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Lua.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: C, yeah.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Lua is the front end for builders right
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It's solid Lua. :p
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: If I remember correctly, everything was converted over to Lua.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Making Aardwolf unique.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: A game embedding Lua for NCP scripting and quests is hardly unique
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: NPC, rather.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No, I seem to remember the entire codebase is now Lua.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It's been several years, though.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'm willing to say no, that's wrong, although I can't prove it. Shall we make it a friendly wager, instead?
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: For some reason, I think Lasher said what it was on Imm.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/v3.html  "Most of the attack spells are actually written in Lua."  If only MOST of them are, then SOME of them are not. Thus it can't be all Lua.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: it would be realy impressive if they rewrote the codebase into Lua and not just the mobprogs
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Aardwolf V3 is a completely new codebase developed from the ground up to combine the best features of the existing Aardwolf MUD with a platform for future growth. V3 was first started mid-2003 and put on hold early 2004 after the birth of Lasher's daughter.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Direct from Aardwolf's site.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that doesn't say anything :p
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I don't see anything about Lua there...
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Thast does not say the type of coding at all.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It doesn't, but it's no longer a DIKU-style MUD.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Oh sure, that wasn't in question
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Er, DIKU-based.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Actually, that does lead me to proof. 'help diku'  The codebase was inspected by a DIKU author to make sure it wasn't a derivative.
T3/r7/2017-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Hmm, okay, you may be correct with C, as the Lua compiler was fully integrated into the MUD.
T3/r7/2017-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyone good with regex have a couple of questions on how i should parse something
T3/r7/2017-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Any docker pros on?
T3/r7/2017-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: is there an easy way to add a number to a variable in mushclient? like ar2 = ar1 +20?
T3/r7/2017-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: ar2 = tonumber(ar1) + 20
T3/r7/2017-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2017-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: any tips for a backup solution for aardwolf running on a ramdisk? Like Automator script + daemon?
T3/r7/2017-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Why run aardwolf on a ramdisk? It's not like it's super i/o intensive and will benefit from it
T3/r7/2017-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: so far it is a little faster given that I now can type in the command bar while speewdalking while I couldn't do that in the past.
T3/r7/2017-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: I used Send("command1;command2") in a script but it didn't parse the commands separately.  how should i send it so that it does? or do i have to send each command individually?
T3/r7/2017-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Need Execute.
T3/r7/2017-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Not Send.
T3/r7/2017-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Send is very literal. You tell it send, it sends it
T3/r7/2017-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: gotcha.  thanks
T3/r7/2017-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: and, is there an Echo function? can't find it through google
T3/r7/2017-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You can use print. Or in MUSH, use Note.
T3/r7/2017-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Capitalization intentional.
T3/r7/2017-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: thanks again.
T3/r7/2017-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Or if you need it to actually fire after whatever commands you have entered (like after a runto) Aardwolf has a built in echo
T3/r7/2017-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: my MUSH is crashing more and more frequently nowadays, is this normal for this version?
T3/r7/2017-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mine doesnt crash at all
T3/r7/2017-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: hmmmm ok, guess some of my plugin is causing the issue
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: is there a way to allow MUSHclient to execute programs outside of the game?
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What is it you're actually trying to accomplish?
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Just Anymouse Tech: wall hacks
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i wanna utilize the timer function to do something outside the game b/c i cannot find a timer in Mac
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: no, not wall hacks. I couldn't care less about the border wall
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: is there a standard variable I can pull for current level using aard's mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yeah, hidden in all the gmcp data
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Using-GMCP
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: thanks, Shindo. I was hoping it was something simple.
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Grimvald: I know this response is a little late, but here you go:  gmcp("char.status").level
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: better late than never! I was looking at GetPluginVariable, and not having any luck
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Of course, if you're paranoid like me you may want to check that gmcp didn't return nil first before accessing level
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: and if it does return nil?
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: wait a bit for gmcp to initialize.  The main problem I have is that if I access gmcp too soon when the plugin starts, the gmcp module may not have initialized first
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm a bit paranoid (as I mentioned :)) so I wait to see a gmcp broadcast message before I let my plugin access gmcp just to be safe
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If you aren't accessing gmcp in your plugin's init routines though I don't think you'd ever see the issue
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: so I can't just reference that as part of an alias that runs script, I have to write it into a seperate plugin?
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Oh, I think that would be fine.  I don't think you need a separate plugin.  Hmm...you can even test it right at the command line with "\\\print(gmcp("char.status").level)"
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: see if that prints your level
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: attempt to call global 'gmcp' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: first do: require "gmcphelper"
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: ah, ok
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You can even add the "require xxx" lines to your main script file so that it gets picked up automatically.  You shouldn't need to do that in your alias each time
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: thanks for the help, Durel!
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel )
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: my pleasure
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: still trying to troubleshoot PC crashing issues. is there a temperature monitoring software that will log it so I can view the temps after rebooting after a crash?
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: depends on motherboard and os
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: well, Windows 10, and ASUS motherboard. lots of software will let me view it in realtime, I'm just wanting something that writes it to a file with a timestamp that I can view after the fact.
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Savyor Tech: google whatever program you use to view it and logging
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: how can i set mushclient to hit enter key twice when i login?
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: File -> World Properties -> Connecting Tab -> Connect Text
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: what do i need to input? cos when i input enter, its enter portal
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You just hit the enter button twice.
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: ooo, let me try
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I have it set up that way. :p
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: yup that did it :)
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2017-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yep!
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone know how to check if the MUSHclient global timer option is enabled/disabled?
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: can't believe i figured this one out. \\\x = GetOption("enable_timers");print(tostring(x))
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: power of google
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Google didn't help much wih this one;unfortunately. I was just persistent in searching view mchelp
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i once hacked into my own wiki to retrieve my old password without no help. i'd say it was the peak moment of my life:)
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: That would be my penultimate. I think being potty trained and rid of diapers was the peak of my life. It was all downhill from there
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is something called depends.
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Thanks Turie. I will add that to my list of #lifegoals :)
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: do Variables not accept booleans?
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lua does not do booleans iirc
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: In mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: well that might explain it :)
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It does, but when you save it is saved as a string
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ah they need to be lower case
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: and yes you cannot concatinate with string, need to cast as string
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: right, so if I try to do a SetVariable("myBoolean", true) then when I use GetVariable("myBoolean") it'll be returned as a string?
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Correct coffee
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: and there is no such thing as like toboolean(GetVariable("myBoolean")?
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sure there is, I am just lazy so I just use "yes" "no".  There is tonumber, might work...
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Can look through fiendish's plugins, sure if there was a good way to do it, he'd use it :)
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: yeah, or in this case I could just do 1 and 0 instead of true false
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: well at least it explains my exceptions, thanks a lot
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: same with arrays by the way, you'll have to convert to strings, and then load them from a string.
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: As a note, Lua does use true/false/1/0 appropriately. :p
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Er, strike that, not 1/0
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: But true/false.
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i think my computer cant count...
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: scan: resilver in progress since Fri Sep  8 08:21:51 2017; 5.17T scanned out of 5.17T at 46.2M/s, (scan is slow, no estimated time); 766G resilvered, 100.02% done
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuethir Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: its up to 100.06......  *thwap computer
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuethir Tech: what os you running zfs on ?
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: freenas
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: thats my small pool
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i just want to turn my VMs back on....
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i theoretically could... but id slow down the resilver
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuethir Tech: you replace a drive recently or something?
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: nod, had a drive fail 3 days ago
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuethir Tech: yea. my nas is actually running debian on a zfs root at the moment, but I usually use Freebsd, and am planning to go back when I feel like taking it back down. lol
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: hehe yeah... i wouldnt mind going to just a plain OS.... but im just lazy
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuethir Tech: I had a 500G drive fail a couple of weeks ago. but I didnt have my disks in a raidz. just a standard striped pool. different sized disks, so raidz would be .. inefficient. :p
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuethir Tech: so when I replaced and restored from my backup, I decided to try something different. I'm not satisfied, but not bothered enough by the idiosyncrasies to actually switch back at the moment.
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: nodnod... i have 4 raidz2's in my freenas - each has 6 drives, 5TB drives, 3TB drives, 2TB Drives, and a 15kRPM 3TB drive pool.
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: ive been collecting for... a while
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: how do i send tells to chat window?
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Right-click the comm log
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Click "Customize Channels"
T3/r7/2017-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: i guess i should of said on blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: random question for Lua. I want a variable to include quotes so when I print it, it will say "me", and show the quotes. Any ideas? \\\x = """ .. "me" .. """; print(x) <-- i tried a few variations of this
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: have you tried '  
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: [[
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: [["Hello"]] works well
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: escape the quotes
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: "
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: \"
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: use [[....]]
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or what anar says, that escapes everything within it
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: cool ty :)
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: is there a way to make the font size bigger?
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eukanuba Tech: on what?
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eukanuba Tech: may I ask?
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: Mush
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eukanuba Tech: uhoh, we need a Mush specialist
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eukanuba Tech: I thought you were gonna ask about mudlet or cmud..
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Alt-5 then click on Font button
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: press alt+5
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: just know that Dina has only 2 sizes.. so if it wont get bigger thats the max size
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: personally i use Consolas
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I use Droid Mono Sans
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: webdings here
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: do I have to do that on each seperate window? That worked for the main window but my maps and everything are still very small
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: actually I kinda want to try that..
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it is in the list
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes only the output window is affected by that on alt-5
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: maps you point at with mouse and roll scroll wheel
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: plugins depend on how they were coded
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: whoa..
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: this is amazing
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: comms log you right click the top bar and select choose font
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: for Map, click on the * top left - change font there
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok another question
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: sorry...a coke got spilt on my laptop so I am moving all my stuff to my school one
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Hugs not drugs!
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo rolls on the floor laughing at Acidrayne Arcidayne's antics!
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I am doing a quest and when I type go, it pulls my goals up instead of going
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Copy the aardwolf.mcl file
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Err
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I know...it truly sucks
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: You need to re-install S&D plugin
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Go is specific to Winkle's S&D.
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sounds like you didnt load SD
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: let me check
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ugh
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok...I think I have almost everything working again...Thank you guys
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: is there no way to limit "affects" to just a specific spell?  e.g. i do "aff 'shield'" and i get thought, party, heat, energy, regular, and spirit
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Usually by encasing the spell name in quotes, yes. But shield itself is found in several spell names, as you mentioned, so not always possible.
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: nods, that's a bummer
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Post a note on Ideas asking to filter by spell number?
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that would be ideal, metria
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Thanks to you, I've found that I've had shield on forgetskills... and I don't know why.
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: haha
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: cuz you're hardcore and stuffZ
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its bad enough slist re-uses spell numbers for skills heh, and now this loose filter! argg :p
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I have so many spellup spells on forgetskill. :p
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: What's really sad is I'm pretty sure I've had shield on forgetskill since... t4.
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: so many TPs to whoever can fix this problem for me: while I have Overwatch open on my PC, and seemingly no other time, the screen will cut to black and not recover, but I can still hear sounds. I can't recreate the conditions, sometimes it'll go a week without happening, sometimes it'll happen multiple times in an hour.
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: my only hint is, if I leave the PC on long enough after the screen goes black, this comes up in Event Viewer: Display driver amdkmdap stoppd responding and has successfully recovered.
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Update your video drivers
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Also, make sure the fan on your video card hasn't died
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I've done that multiple times. newer drivers, older drivers, clean driver install
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: fan is fine, temps are fine. I can run FurMark on it for an hour with no issues.
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Are you overclocking? 
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: if the monitor dont go bitching then its just overwatch's fault
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: because there is like million games that dont do that
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I found this thread: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20758316329 but it doesn't have any other suggestions beyond rolling back to an older driver. Might be worth bookmarking though, to check again later.
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: have you seen this: https://community.amd.com/thread/180166
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Endy: yes
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: TdrDelay doesn't fix it, I can try the 17.7.1 driver if I can find it
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: the quickest fix is to switch to console. pcs are so random
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: have you tried disabling PCIe Link State Power Management
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Endy: yes
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well **** you, i give up :p
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded pouts. 
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I did that and disabled the onboard video in the BIOS
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: how old is this gpu?
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: old drivers seem promising so I'm giving that a shot
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: 6 months? ish?
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: like, not since you bought it, but since it was manufactured
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: maybe 9 months? not sure.
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hmm then it should be fully compatible with win10
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: you could use windows driver verifier to test the driver itself, but the site previously mentioned seems like going back to prior would be quicker next step
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I had no issues with it until I replaced my motherboard/CPU/RAM but that was around the time the drivers changed to the ones people were reporting problems with in Metria's link
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Metria gets a TP for an idea that makes sense
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: its blizzard. im 99% sure of it
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: one of the crashes happened just in the menu of Overwatch, not even in a game. when I was stress testing with FurMark I left OW open but no crashes. let it go about an hour.
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so you replaced mb/cpu/ram.. did you do a clean install of windows after?
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I did not. which was my next step :p
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no issues with the old drivers so far but I think I am just going to rip the bandaid off and do a clean install
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i will be waiting to collect all your tps if it works
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: They are not currently accepting any deliveries.
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dont want anymore bags of poo!
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: so tempting
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I mean, I was going to legit send a TP
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: fyi I have deliveries on!
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth screams out, "Oh My God!"
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: he did it!
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no way i'm gonna fall for that!
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm for realsies though
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: it's kind of a problem - even if a first world one - I don't know what category to record that under in my spreadsheet :( want it back?
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: daily blessing should work i think
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but that would skew the results if reporting on actual daily blessings
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and mess up those stats! I shall record it under 'tech help'
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to [Outlaw] Mendaloth.
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: nice timing :P
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: or create a new category trolling tech...
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: daily             daily blessing               Endymion Tech: daily blessing should work i think
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Menda has attempted to help me with this problem in the past though
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: well I was legitimately trying to send Endymion a TP but now that I'm actually reinstalling Windows I think he should send me TPs because I hate doing this
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: reinstalling is fun
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You just have to install and leave it. Check it every so often.
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: answering no to 30 versions of, "do u want to send your finger prints and colonic map to microsoft?" is fun
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Raded is running all Windows 10 to do all his medical scans.
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the actual installation process is fast going from a USB drive to a SSD. it's the whole part about turning off all of the stupid "send my data to microsoft" options that's annoying. also reinstalling everything.
T3/r7/2017-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: anyone using  cortana?
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: playing around with plugin wizard, I didn't realize triggers were all included by default. Any way to undo what the plugin wizard created?
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: turn the specific plugin off or remove it
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: did that, but triggers didn't reload. They're all gone from the triggers tab.
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: by default, triggers are removed when creating a plugin
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: yeah, now I know that
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: is there a way to get them back?
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: oh my bad, i missread the question
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you can import them if you can get them from your "plugin"
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: possibley straight from the plugin but havent tried
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: rename your plugin.xml to plugin.mct then do a Load on the triggers page in mush
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i tried that on another plugin and it loaded the triggers in
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so if you happen to do that and get your triggers in, then do a file->save world details and triggers should save
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: phew, thank you sir!
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: worked eh?
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: yeah, neat trick
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: glad to hear!
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that checkbox really shouldn't be checked by default!
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you can probably do the same to any aliases that got sucked out the same way
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: nod, and timers reloaded from the same file
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ard Tiarna Grimvald is agreeing with that Endymion person again...
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: eah, mushclient updated, and now all my windows and pluns appear to not be loading. Ideas how to fix?
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: did you use the installer or copy&paste over the top
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: ?
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: is there a back up of alias files somewhere in the mush folder?
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: is the triple pack at winkle's address still the best one to get for a new player or is there a more upto date with fixes somewhere?
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vraak Tech: how do I turn off the mush client window that shows stats, level, alignment, etc?
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: File > Plugins > disable "Aardwolf_Statmon"
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vraak Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vraak shrieks as Tricksy Bamboo covers him in whipped cream!
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Err, welcome!
T3/r7/2017-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vraak Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: is there a way to change a variable from the command line? So I could set something up (an alias, maybe, if there's not already a command?) that I could use to , for instance, change my secondary attack, so I'm only having to remember to change it once, and I'm not constanly sending marbu jet at level 16 out of habit?
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: a little difficult for me to understand, you wanna rephrase it?
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: nvm, I think I got it
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: Good monring! Who are our resident Lua experts?
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: What's your quesiton
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Also, your question
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: Also, morning. lol
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Also, that
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: I was digging through the site, and I'm missing something critical here. It's all "we can use Lua!", but I didn't really see where or how, or if it was for a particular client, etc. I'm just looking for more info.
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: I've been looking for an excuse to try Lua on something other than Conky.
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the Aardwolf mushclient is lua
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: my plugin are also lua
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: I see. I'm using tintin, so I should just stick to scripting there.
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: hey is there a plugin where i dont have to keep typing out mob names to strangle and backstab especially if there are different named monsters
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: hey is there a plugin where i dont have to keep typing out mob names to strangle and backstab especially if there are different named monstersgt thats the plugin?
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: oops sorry
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: do a google search for consider plugins
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Who is Rezit Tech: as long as it doesn't turn you into a bot these plugins seem onside.
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: im looking for a plugin so i can pup faster with a thief, i dont want to type out str (mob).bs (mob), spiral every mob i come across, if they were all the same named mobs it be fine because i can just keep hitting enter , but if its 5 different mobs its very painstakingly slow
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: ahh, so thats really easy :D c ultra
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: you don't need a plugin, you need a client-side alias
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Who is Rezit Tech: why not just do a fire breath in the room
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Who is Rezit Tech: if you need to tame the mobs you don't want
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: because AOE is slow way for pthi
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Who is Rezit Tech: when i phone mud i have k set to kick a mob, so i only need to type in three chars k *
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: im pthief
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: pthi wants to engage single mob that way: strangle <mob>, backstab <mob>, spiral
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: pthief still has firebreath and ultrablast for room attacks
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: but cant strangle and backstab
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Who is Rezit Tech: kill em all and let ivar sort them out
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: Mota for president!
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: pthi can get 30 second pups with strangle and backstab or 50 second pups with fire breath
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: but even still I would just use a client side alias to strangle, backstab, spiral  and then just type alias <mobname>
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Who is Rezit Tech: you're on mushclient, setup bs for strangle, bs and spiral all at the same time
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: how do i do that?
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: alt+0
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Who is Rezit Tech: contr-shift-9
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: i have tot arget everything
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: i know how to set up an alias
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: alias name bs *, in the body strangle %1 newline backstab %1 newline spiral
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: then just bs m or bs a
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: since the entire name isn't needed
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: oh let me try that
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: that seems like it would work
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: yeah the autocomplete makes a lot of single target easier
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: that was exactly what i was looking for
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toneloc Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: np
T3/r7/2017-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: conw randomly stopped working and the mobs are now displayed int he main screen, Ideas how to sort this> tried restarting the client
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: segmented comm log miniwin for mush. anything like that out there?
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Segmented how?
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Explain what you mean by segmented!
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: not tabs
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Still not clarifying anything...
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: hm. my engly is not so good.. i try to draw it instead
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Just explain what you mean, you want multiple miniwindows, the ability to filter them to specific channels, what?
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: no, like 1st 5 rows would be for gossip, second 10 rows for imm. all draggable - shrinkable&expandable
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: in one single win
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Regardless, that'll still be multiple miniwindows
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It can look like a single window, but it'll have to be multiple
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i dont follow
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: As far as I know, that also doesn't exist. You'd lose all temporal relevance looking at chats that way.
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: thats a point..
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: well. for auction, i'd need to see only a very few recent ones. but they will clutter all else when everything is piled together
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: What I would suggest (also still doesn't exist yet) would be to add a click handler to the comm log, so that when you click a channel it filters to only that channel, clicking again resets the filter.
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Then your comm log can dual as a `{channel} -h`
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: wouldnt hurt to have this function
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: that would surely help mud also
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: a wee bit at least
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Meh, I don't know that there's enough people checking channel histories at once for it to be a significant change in load
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: yep. i would absolutely use comm-log win to do the chan -h for me
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I haven't looked at the comm log script in a long time, not sure how hard it'd be to add to it
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I wouldn't think it'd be too difficult
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: seems basic
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Anyone know of a good free program that will allow you to make design for use in cutting and engraving object?
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: gimp
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I think that one allows for vectorization which is what you want for those types of activities
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Interesting. SpyCloud will show information on your email addresses that have exposed as part of a breach. As a result, found out Gammon Software (MUSHclient's creator) was allegedly breached in April. Got my password, too, despite it being encrypted.
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Wonder if Nick knew about that.
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You may also enjoy https://haveibeenpwned.com/
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I like SpyCloud's interface and watchlist. I'll check out that one, though.
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Who is Rezit Tech: what's the url?
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: http://www.spycloud.com
T3/r7/2017-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: With crashplan exiting the consumer cloud storage space I need somewhere offsite to store my encrypted backups.  I'm considering using rclone on a backblaze backend.  Does anyone have any experience with rclone and/or backblaze's b2 product? 
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: if you have an server side alias does it expand other server side aliases
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I use digit aliases. if I call one of them in another alias, it will revert to the base functionality, which is (usually) a social 
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: fair enough,i guess it could very confusing if the server had to guess if all 1's in a command were actually aliases for "do some other stuff"
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: that part I think would be simple. the problem is how to prevent recursive aliases
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: anyone know how i can make mushbot client save my window sizes so i don't have to redo it every time i open the damn thing?
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: MUSHclient saves windows settings when you press ctrl+s
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Saving with ctrl+s should work like Turie said. If it doesn't, your state file is broken
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Skull peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: been a long time that I have had to create a partition on a PC that was wiped clean. I have a boot disk, but the partition needs to be added. Is that a Start PC then hold F12 key or something? I think I can configure it after I get where I need to be.
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it depends on your MOBO
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Each mobo manufacture chooses the key to activate BIOS
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: thats it....I need to get into the BIOS.
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You could also do it from a linux live disk
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: BIOS key is USUALLY (but not always) F2, Del, or F12
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: I have Ubunutu on my PC but my daughter wants windows.
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: kids these days
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I just meant to add the partition
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You can do that from a bootable linux USB/CD
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: I will try those. Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: tell your daughter to get over herself and learn how to compile a kernel from source
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: tell her to learn to be l33t
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: ah....ok.
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger uses Arch. And needs you all to know it.
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Skull gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fetard Tech: Slackware for life!
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Also, are you the original skull from way back when?
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: I know enough to F$#stuff up. 
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: the skull that was like T1 or 2 and in Touchstone and played Mafia :)
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, and DoH at one point too, right?
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: never heard of him.
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: Oh forgot about DOH
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fetard cackles gleefully at Skull.
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Skull slaps himself on the head and yells, "DOH!"
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: We were both in DoH i think
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: who else was in there......man its been a few years.
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That was forever ago, When Culpable was still in DoH
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: oh yea DOH went to Boot Camp....I was in there.
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No, DoH went to Emerald.
T3/r7/2017-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: is it a bug that "help mapper" appears MUSHclient's helpfile instead and said nohting about mapper?
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: try mapper help
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: are you sure you're not wanting 'mapper help'?
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: ahhhh that's weird, but mapper help is good hahahaha thanks!
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: it's not weird. Mapper is not a part of the game. The server knows nothing about the mapper. Help command only shows gama related help
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/11880/build-a-working-game-of-tetris-in-conways-game-of-life
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Worth the read.
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Also how we get our alien overlord to turn off our simulation :P
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krausbert Tech: anyone know how to get backpspace to work in telnet?
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It works, it just doesn't show it
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: set ^H
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: depends on what telnet you use you need to set telnet specific option
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The real question though, is what is prompting you to keep using telnet?
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: masochism
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krausbert Tech: What are the client alertnatives to telnet for Linux command line?
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: TT++, TinyFugue
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krausbert Tech: TT++ works much better. Thanks Cheezburger
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krausbert Tech: -f
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Ixle and I maintain a set of scripts for aardwolf if you want.
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: http://theixle.github.io/aardwolf-tintin/
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: dumb question. does Lua scripting work with TT++?
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It can, but not directly out of the box
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: http://tintin.sourceforge.net/scripts/lua.php
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Occultus Tech: Hey I had some questions about aliases and triggers
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: You trying to bot?
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion attempts to make Fatal FrostBite close his mouth in the interest of peace.
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Occultus Tech: Lol no I've already read the helpfile
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: be gentle with our new players, frosty.
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Occultus Tech: Mainly, just want to know if theres a way to make an alias that can be used in conjunction with another command
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Occultus Tech: i.e i type open "alias" and it replaces the "alias" with an ID
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Occultus Tech: also how to get triggers to work at all, since i've had no luck with those
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: there are some online tutorial for mush trigger and alias usage. You can use google to search for them: mushclient scripting is a good search topic.
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: also mushclient triggers and mushclient aliases.
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Occultus Tech: I briefly scanned those, most of them seemed like the creator belitting people for not understanding how they work haha 
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite cracks his knuckles while preparing to help.
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: I didn't mean the forums, I mean search for tutorials. use the word 'tutorial' in your search.
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: besides, Gammon is actually a nice guy :)
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Check out the faq in help mushclient, it has a great guide for triggers/aliases.
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I've never once seen Gammon belittle anyone for not understanding how something works.
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Anaristos had some good advice. Check out as many tutorials as you can. Some basics on scripting... You can send the output of your alias to different places.
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Nick Gammon is really helpful.
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Very much so.
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: if you send it to world, the output of your alias goes right to the mud.
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: if you send it to execute, it'll run the output through another round of parsing by the client.
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: try this video first: https://vimeo.com/80333485
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: It sounds like you want to replace a word with an item ID if I'm not mistaken.
T3/r7/2017-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: You still here? Or are you watching tutorials?
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: help Error number: 0
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Huh? what are you trying to do? what client? Need more info.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And is that the entire error message exactly?
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: I'm trying to load winkle winkle's search and distroy into mushclient
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: From where? I think there is an updated version floating around somewhere, just don't know where.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: here: https://goo.gl/a5wp6n
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: fixed by Nokfah
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: do I download everything in the folder?
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yes, and put it into a subfolder in the plugins directory
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: gah, refractoring is the suxors
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: refactoring?
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: refractoring code
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: lay down unit tests then its easy peasey
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krausbert Tech: heh i was just writing code before coming here
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hmm, should have used a bit more TDD for my lua scripts
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah... so don't go refactoring without a test support structure
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i don't code in lua
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: don't know what kind of support they have for that
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Krausbert that is possible I have only been programming for 23 years
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: also, never let miniwindows block half of what people say, assuming the rest of a sentence is bad form
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: hmm i work with alot of people who have been programming for a long time but aren't realy good
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: they don't Dunpeal, lol
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Dunpeal thats me, lol. Been doing it a long time and still I am terrible
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah no worries
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: just don't code like its in ada :P
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dunpeal cringes in terror!
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I only know a few languages and luckily ada isn't one of them
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i mainly code in java
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: doing micro services atm
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: at work I code in java, python, js(ewww), 
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: cool
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i love coding :P
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: a ton of pl/sql, but thats just not real programming, lol
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: no it is
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: me too, I recently changed from a laborer to a programmer for a career
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: not the way my company is doing it, very little in stored procedures, mostly just little scripts to manipulate the db
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: typically i use spring jpa to talk to the db
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: would be better if they let us make smaller building blocks for things like data reloads... instead we write monolithic non reusable reload scripts
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah not good
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yeah, we are working them down though, slowly they are letting us do things the correct way
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: lol not where i work
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I have recently been tasked with converting the old VB.net site over to something modern.. never liked webapp stuff
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nods
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I still have that "I am just glad someone pays me to program" feel about work, lol
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I hear that it will fade and be replaced by a dread of terrible practices
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: ok, I don't think the latest version of mushclient likes winklewinkle's plugins.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: there were some fixes to WW plugins
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: oh. no. there is a fix for them though. finger ... oh gosh ... what's his name... Nokfah? for a fix.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: did you get the version of S&D from nokfah?
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: IIRC Starling maintains them now, just finger her and go to her www
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: from what I've been told, though, hers are more graphical, and might not work with screen readers if you're visually impaired. Nokfah's might be a better option if you're VI.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Nokfah just fixed what was broken in the original.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Byrnatha nods.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It's good enough for most people. Starling's made some adjustments to the script that shouldn't actually affect VI players.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Fixes such as not allowing the window to be placed outside a reachable border, for instance.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I'm visually impaired, and currently using Winkle's S&D with Nokfah's fixesand it works great here... I can't personally vouch for Starling's plugins.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: did you get them from google drive
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: yes, but if NVDA isn't playing nice with google drive, I can hook you up with a link.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: is there something I ned to do to the client befor copy and paste in to plugins
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: you'll just copy/paste the plugins into Worlds/Plugins, then install them through the client.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: does the client version matter
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: if you're using the latest version of mushclient you'll need Nokfah's fixes for sure.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: I have the fixed version but it still won't load.  I still get an error.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: hmm.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: didyou try restarting mush?
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: sory for bugging you buies.  I' stubern when I want something to work that used to work befor.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: it's fine. I really want to help you get it up and running, because it works flawlessly for me here.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: is it working after you've restarted mush?
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: or are you still having issues?
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: Error parsing script (Cannot load)  what does this mean
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that it cannot be loaded because of errors :P
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 1st check whether you have saved contents of plugin - so whether file starts with <?xml 
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can to use any text file viewer to check that (like notepad)
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think that is most common reason why plugin is not loaded - because people save html file as plugin
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it starts with <?xml , then probably that "error parsing script" is a bit more verbose
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there should follow more error related lines
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Or she's loading the wrong plugin file.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: having trouble getting bast_spellup to add new spells and autocast. its been a year since ive used my mushclient. anyone know the commad to get it going again? bsp sa all had no effect on some of my spells
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: bsp resume
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: pretty sure ive attempted that
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: bsp slist to see all the spells for self and olist for other
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: do you have spellup tags on? I don't personally use that plugin, but that'd be the first thing to check. *shrug*
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I know my auto-spellup plugin relies on spellup tags.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: hmmm may be tagged , because my blowtorch chat window requires tags on.... ill try. bsp slist shows only 23 of my 46 spells. after using resume and sa all 
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: tags are on
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I'm out of ideas then, as I've never used that plugin. so sorry.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: have you tried removing it and adding it again
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: also check bsp slist for all the D  marked spells
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm having some difficulty copying snippets of mushclient output that include color codes.  Every once in a while when I click on a mush window I'll get a dialog box for copying with color but most of the time I get other menus that don't offer that option.  I don't know what I'm doing differently.  Any suggestions?  I'm running the official mushclient version from the mud website via wine.  I don't know if that matters.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: is it when you're copying from the main window that you don't get the colors option?
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yes, it's from the main window
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If I highlight text and right click on it, I can copy it but I don't have an option to copy with color
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: I'm not sure, but I think the 'copy with color' ability is a feature of the communication log (and maybe other plugins). I don't think the main window supports it, honestly, but I may be wrong, I'm hardly an authority on the client
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: However, sometimes when I click on the main window another dialog box pops up asking if I want to copy in color -- even if I haven't selected any text yet
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ctrl-d works to copy colorcodes (in Windows anyway)
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aisling Tech: I'm not sure how it'll work for you, since I use Windows, but highlighting in the main window, then using 'ctrl + d' works for me when I want to copy the colors as well.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: oh neat!
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Awesome!  ctrl + d works for me.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: yep, works in wine too
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aisling Tech: No problem.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you're welcome
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: anyone know how I can increase the font in my input bar on mushclient? -am I going to have to just make windows itself display larger fonts?
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: displaying on ym tv -output is nice and legible but the input is a little small (or I'm old, take your pick)
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Alt-0?
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: ctrl-alt-o and on the left side under appearances click on ouput and follow directions
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: oops not o but zero 0 ctrl-alt-0
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Control-alt-0 doesn't do anything on my mushclient
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: then near the top of the mushclient window, below the words file edit view etc, find the letter a with an arrow on top, click on that and on the left side appearances/output
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: (sigh) Just click alt-0 like I said, click the FOnt button,a nd change the damn font size.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: oh crap sorry, not ctrl but just alt 0
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mique beams a smile at Birdbrain Metria.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: or do what metria said, its much clearer
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: think that was it -client dfroze when trying to open it
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You may have to resize the actual input box if you make the font size too big for it
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuethir Tech: anyone using tintin + tmux on freebsd ?
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: type clients to see who many folk using each type of client
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuethir Tech: well. of the 10 using tintin, it doesnt tell me who is running freebsd.. or using it through tmux :)
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: but it does let you know a few folk are using tintin, so if can find them can then ask the rest of your question
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I bet it's one of those really esoteric questions. "Is anyone using tintin via tmux on freebsd, running on a Proctor Silex toaster? Whenever I open my sliding glass doors going out to the deck, it reboots."
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mique falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: ok so thanks for the alt+0 advice -now can anyone help me trouble shoot why choosing to change my font causes mushclient to freeze?
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That I have no idea on, I changed the font as a test to make sure it did what I thought, and it worked ok.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Metria, have you tried mushclient?  Only a few use tintin so hard to find help with it. See clients command for populararity of each client.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I tried, it doesn't work on my brand of toaster.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But anyways tintin is REALLY picky about brackets and semicolons
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: make sure they are all there.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: I'm really interested to know what the three 'unidentified' clients are.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Could be an issue with send client id
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You can actually edit by hand.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: ok that's better
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: thanks met
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuethir Tech: medaloth this isnt a tintin problem. it's a tmux problem. launch tintin inside tmux, my keypad is ONLY recognized as either arrow keys or just numbers... launch tintin directly into my shell, and everything works fine
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: (just had to be patient and let the font list populate (which is dumb bc I just need courier)
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Omg I was tlaking to metria :)
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuethir Tech: however, this same set up worked under debian.. and I have used a similar setup on freebsd for a different MUD that also let me use the numpad as macros :)
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But anyways I don'tKnow tmux I use screen
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuethir Tech: oh lol
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Try typing 'echo $TERM' in shell, then within tmux and seeing if they're different
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuethir Tech: tmux reports itself as screen terminal
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Do the keys work the way you expect under screen?
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can try adding the following to your ~/.tmux.conf: set -g default-terminal "tmux"
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuethir Tech: I dunno. screen is infested with gpl :p /bsd rant mode off
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuethir Tech: hmm. gonna try something. brb
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuethir Tech: that's weird. Somehow, forcing 256colors makes it work. even though $TERM is still screen.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Good enough!
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuethir Tech: agreed. I think I used that in my old setup for another mud.. but I can't remember. I -used- to have everything backed up, but the backup was corrupt. so. meh lol
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amazonite Tech: OMfg why are there ads on goal guides page? cant read shit it zaps down to the crap ad that has nothing to do with aard...how do I stop those
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Install an ad blocker and/or never browse webpages on mobile
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amazonite Tech: I'm not on mobile.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Definitely install an ad blocker, then.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock works very well for me.
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amazonite Tech: sweet, thanks Metria
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I hope it helps, good luck
T3/r7/2017-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amazonite Tech: ty :) I'll give it a go
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: Hello, anyone available?
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: this isn't the dating channel...
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: A/S/L wanna cyber
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: but seriously, Im on mush, how do i set up a portal?
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: mapper help portals
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: have you read mapper help   and mapper help portals 
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but that said there are other tricks like creating an alias that will take a specified portal out of a "portal" bag and then use it and replace it
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you should really set up a function to do the dirty work
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and then you mapper portal aliasname portalname
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: yes that is it
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is quite useful to have a bag for portals with keyword like "portalbag"
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: BUT once you use teh unique id
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: damn fingers
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: BUT once you use the unique id in the alias you don't have to spend money on adding a keyword
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i have a portal plugin that works with or without portal wish.  the help file isnt pretty but its flawless when set up properly
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you want to do that script-way, then best is just to store somewhere all portal #ids and track where your portal is (inventory, some bag) with invmon
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: lol i just realized rokshel is ignoring me
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and you're trying to be useful
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah i sent him a tell heh
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, most of portals have fixed portal location, so your plugin could also auto manage such portals
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or rather, for most of portals you know location because of portal name / portal type
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: only in-game exception is gvozd portal, that can lead to one of two locations and chaos portals that may lead to any room
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: TrachX the mushclient built in mapper takes care of landing locations
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and as far as i am aware, a chaos portal once activated with the spell lands in the same place every time
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean if you load your plugin, then by examining your inventory and bags you are able to identify all fixed portals
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: only when seeing gvozd you are not able to tell whether it leads to Troll or Yeti - you need either discover it by using it or wayfind
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: same for chaos portals - you need discover their destination
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the idea is to add each portal to the mapper, with a function to pull it out, wear it, use it, put it back
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then after discovering you just remember that portal #id leads to #roomid and store that info somewhere
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: then mapper goto just works
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: or xrt for that matter
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it's why i love mush's mapper, i don't have to remember anything
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right, but you can add them automated way (based on portal names/keywords and known locations)
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also if you play from different locations using different clients - you can move a portal from a location known to 1st client to other bag
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so if your added it with: mapper portal get 1111111(portal id) 2333333(bag id);wear portal;enter;put portal 23333333
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then in other client you put that portal into other bag - then your mapper portal stops working in 1st client
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: anyone is welcome to use my portal helper plugin for mush.  it works with default dual wield, default hold, portal slot: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9lfszoe9ipqhys5/Aard_Portal_Helper.xml?dl=0
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: you need to add a remove portal before you can put it back in the bag
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: your helper plugin lacks also re-equipping item you were previously holding
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you really don't need anything other than wear all after stashing your portal
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean when you are able to hold Kai or one of epic portals - then probably you were holding them before wearing portal, at lower levels you were probably holding aard amulet or other portal with stats (or just some item if you do not have portalwish)
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it doesnt lack anything, but you have to set either a dual wield, hold, or portal for portal slot wish
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you are right with that wear all 
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: re_dual just equips default item
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but that default item changes with your level
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: true, but i dont see a better way to know what you "want" to hold/wield.  there are plenty of scenarios where what you are holding or wielding is not what you ultimately want to continue
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: invmon will show what you have removed (was worn) when you equip new portal
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: thats why the alias of "wield *" or "hold *" or "dual *" sets those defaults
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so if your 91eq alias wields a wep, its set as default
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you get info: {invmon}1,1259940209,-1,31    : You stop using Portal to Annwn as a portal.,  You equip the Tiger of Kai as a portal.  {invmon}2,1491170470,-1,31
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: seems excessive to me, but to each his own i guess.  i like defaults rather than triggering every time i remove a portal. which would have to be enabled/disabled with the function to portal anyhow
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: "wear all" is usually good enought, or just equipping default item
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however considering that mud provides you with all those tags, you can do that in more automated way
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and if you enchant items then you probably have some kind of enchant bot that already processes tags
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: newb to mushclient. would anyone know how to make basic hotkeys for spells, pots. etc?
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you can set up client aliases with the a with an arrow symbol, they are similar to mud aliases
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ctl+shift+2 opens the macros thing
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: They are called macros.
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if you want one-click macros like via a single key that's macros macros and macros like they said
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: thank yall
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you can also do a google search for Accelerator  which you put in a lua file and hten you can do stuff like this Accelerator ("Ctrl+numpad8", "open north")
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and where is says open north your can put any alias name that you then define in the client
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Varrion goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: ooh!
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: you could make an alias that calls a webservice, that returns a string in the form of a serialized lua command that will fire off a script locally.
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: <- going for the most convoluted solution
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, and you could make that a soap based web service to make it extra ridiculous
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hahah
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: mmm parsing xml soap envelopes 
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: (in lua)
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: yall are losing me now.. lmao
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: imagination!
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: we geeks gotta find a way to keep our hards on
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: (learned it's hards on from Silicon Valley)
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: lmao
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: though I highly doubt it actually is
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I got to geek out the other night around a fire, lol the wife and neighbor dissapeared after a bit
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, that's always fun to make their eyes glaze over
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yes it is
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I want to get fiendish and Abelinc in a room someday and just watch what happens
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: behold the earth melts beneath them
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am fairly sure one of them would not exit the room. They both have very strong opinions, lol
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: too much brain density in one place
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: what u bwrain hurted?
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Imagination?
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: #brainhurts
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: imagination!
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Come with me, and you'll see... a world of pure imagination!
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: : follows Arci into his imagination.
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: script fail, lol
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Arci would be another good one to thow into that room!
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: round up all the top tech advisors and see what they talk about
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: knowing my luck though... they would talk about french cheese or some such nonesense
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: no, it'll be star wars
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: haha
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I always rooted for Vader in the original three
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: he seemed like the most likable character
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I liked Storm Trooper #7
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: always gets laser blasted though :(
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I mean if you think about the storyline, its just a bunch of people trying to beat up on this poor handicapped guy
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I find people generally talk about the things they are currently most excited about unless asked about something specific
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if you got those 3 in a room, they wouldn't talk about tech unless someone came into the room and asked a tech question
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: its sad but true
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I don't find it sad, I'm an IT professional and I don't talk about IT outside of work, unless I'm working on something interesting and I want to talk about it
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I must do to many side projects, I enjoy talking about tech any chance I get.
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, so you find tech itself super interesting
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: (which is cool)
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: mostly programming, but I also like to make and talk about circuit design
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: heh, I live in an area where I don't get to talk to many poeple about that kind of stuff. Most people around here don't even use computers outside of thier phone.
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, that's unfortunate for you since you enjoy it so much
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you should move
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: heh, hard to do now, wife and two kids. Plus we own the house we live in
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I guess there's always the internet.. nowadays you can join remote projects and do really cool stuff from anywhere
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: nice to be able to sit down with someone and talk though too
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Thats very true
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: accelerators just changed my life. lol
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan :)
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: is alt+key viable to use or messes with exsisting functions?
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: im used to blowtorch....
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you can also use alt with numpad just alt+subtract can cause weirdness
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: can you not use a combination like "ctrl+alt+key" for an accelerator? 
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: never tried it
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Varrion goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: must not be able to then
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Sure you can.
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Read the help file on Accelerators.
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: CTRL + ALT + SHIFT + key // The modifiers CTRL, ALT and SHIFT are all optional, and are not case-sensitive. They can appear in any order. 
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: maybe i did something wrong....
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: This is a test of Ctrl+Alt+9
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Worked for me.
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: thank you ill try it again! :)
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I used the Lua script way, though. \\\Accelerator ("Ctrl+Alt+9", "echo This is a test.")
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: hmm i just copied and pasted a plugin. then edited the file
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Well, I know nothing about that. :p
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: i can just input the accelertor thru the command line here?
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: As long as you preface it with the script prefix, usually \\\
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: gotcha!
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: so is there a way to list acclerators youve created then? incase you forget? dang blowtorch is easier to use.
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Sure, \\\require 'tprint' tprint(AcceleratorList())
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: But it'll list all those that exist, not just ones you've made.
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: how do you remove a accelerator? 
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Set it to a do nothing alias.
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: whats a good updated autohunt plugin. mine seems to not be working anymore
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: winkle has one
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so does bast
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: or make your own with aliases and triggers, or script it in LUA
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: winkle isnt working, when it goes to auto hunt it just outputs it cant understand me
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ask around, I am sure someone has fixed that issue.
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: nevermind. simple mistake , thank you guys!
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What was the fix?
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: i was missing an extender plugin when i updated it.
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: im still figuring out this mapper on mush 
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylla Tech: Out of curiousity, are the Winkle plugins allowed? I wasn't sure whether they constituted botting
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: They are allowed.
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylla Tech: Ok, great!
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: can anyone point me to resources learning how the mapper works?
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Type 'mapper help'
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: thank you :)
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: There's also this, although I have only skimmed it, not checked it for accuracy: https://www.mushclient.com/forum/?id=12926
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Varrion goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: Run-time error
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Then walk.
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Safer than running.
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: anyone know anything about the MudRammer client for iphone? As to why it wont send any commands through after my screen rotates?
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taj Tech: it does that.  you have to restart it. i usually lock my screen
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: i know just was wondering if anyone knew a way to fix it :)
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Disable screen rotation, and it won't happen again?
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: sooo guessing i should just throw my phone agianst the wall and see if they will give me an android huh?
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: i had to update my mushclient and blacks and grays no longer show up. what am i doing wrong?
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: what happens if you type xterm?
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: tried that, i get the orange output like normal
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: wait hold up. i got it... messed with stuff client side
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and do greys and black now show up/
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: no they didnt with just xterm. it was some client configurations that had to be fixed
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sheriff Shindo nods.
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: thank you tho!
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: So far I have it working with pups and dodges.
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: how can i adjust the font size in mush?
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: some windows have font menu under right click
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: for teh main screen press alt+enter and goto output and then select font
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: default font is alt-5
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: so i had to reinstall my bast spellup script and mini window when i logged in. now it wont auto cast .. any ideas? please?
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: tried refresh and remove
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: remove state file ?
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe some variable sets on/off that plugin
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: no?
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: was working before i closed mush
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: does it think you have all the spells up or something?
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: on save usually variables are saved
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: err on quit
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: i think so. leaves them all pending
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: does the output from bsp slist havd lots of D's
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: no all pending
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: especially next to spells that should be getting cast
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you did a bsp resume  ?
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: yes it doesnt start it
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you are standing and do have mana?
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: correct! its frustrating me.
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Try bsp refresh yet?
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: what happens with bsp list?
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: i think i just figured it out. i dont understand still why i had lost and had to reinstall my spellup and miniwindow, but i also had to reinstall broadcast spells.... ugh
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: just curious, is there a benefit over just using like "spellup all" or "spellup learned"?
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Spellup all will try and cast everything, even if you haven't practiced it beyond 1%.
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: yes. spellup plugins will queue up spells if you're fighting, sleeping, resting, afk, etc. they'll auto-cast spells that go down, so you don't have to type spellup all the time.
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: its really nice!
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: ah i see, thanks
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: spellup does not attempt 1% spells
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Spellup all does
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: i usually use spellup learned, personally
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Lrn2Read
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's just xyliz chiming in for no reason again, to cast incorrect information
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: as per usual
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: At that point I'd throw in a hunt trick too to ensure it's the right instance
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: while I find mapper taking care of tier bonus for portals spectacular, I wonder how can you specify a portal that can't be used earlier? I'm talking about a heroonly portal. do you set the level to 211/221/...?
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "spellup all" is a ridiculous option, unless somebody likes casting 1% spellups with a "You lost your concentration while trying to cast (*)" recaster - spam city 
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If hero only best to set to 291
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Set it AND FORGET IT
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Liber D
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded nods at [Outlaw] Mendaloth.
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Not like sitting before 291 makes sense!
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: ok, so the solution is to increase the level on those. thank you :)
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But seriously could just make a note to change it.
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: a portal in your bag and a whole rotisserie chicken
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It's like one or two portals right?
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or if you track inventory changes and apply them to mapper - vault put portal
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: yes. I was not complaining, I was curious how you can set that. but the 291 above answered it :)
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Could just lock the portal room to not be a viable option until level 200.
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: using a mapper how do you see room ids?
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: mapper thisroom
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: so theres no master list i can see to runto?
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I also get text like this: Location: aylor, 32418 ... that happens whenever I type look, or run into a new room. although I'm not sure if that's some sort of tag, or if it's part of my S&D plugin. there is a mapper command you can use to search out a room by its name. but I can't remember that command right off the top of my head.
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Varrion goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered briefly
T3/r7/2017-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: anyone know how to prevent windows from automatically rebooting?
T3/r7/2017-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liber Tech: I think it will notify you after the update, and you can choose to postpone the reboot
T3/r7/2017-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: you can't do that anymore...
T3/r7/2017-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It depends on your Windows version, I think.
T3/r7/2017-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I have Pro, so I can choose to prevent it from rebooting if I want.
T3/r7/2017-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: But it'll ask me if I want to first.
T3/r7/2017-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: I have student version and seems like it's a no go
T3/r7/2017-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rugal Tech: this is driving me crazy!!! what are these yellow highlighted linea on blow torch?
T3/r7/2017-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Okay... so... came across this beautiful code editor by Microsoft. Free AND open sourced... https://code.visualstudio.com/Download
T3/r7/2017-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It may even replace Sublime for me...
T3/r7/2017-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone have a way to sort a Lua table by three columns?
T3/r7/2017-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You can have a custom sort function.
T3/r7/2017-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i have one for two columns but i got lost after that
T3/r7/2017-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Probably something like function return a > b > c
T3/r7/2017-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: for multi-dimensional sorting, I use a compare function that loops over a list of columns I want to sort.  I don't know how to do 3 columns at once, but you can break it down and iterate instead.
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: So, MS Excel.  List of area names from "areas keywords".  I hit ^H to pull up the Find and Replace menu, go to replace "the" with "" (i.e. nothing).  Note, there is no option for 'match whole word only.'  Excel replaces "the" as a substring in every string, screwing up things like "Cathedral" which becomes "Cadral".  So stupid.  Can Excel search and replace whole words only, or is this feature only available in advanced software like Notepad++ ?
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: to to replace "the " with ""?
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: What Zhalut suggested is the quick and easy solution.  The answer to your question however, about doing 'whole word only', is quite possible using VBA to make your own macro for it.
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I should have used replacing "A" as an example, because it's what really made the problem apparent, even if I replace "a " (including the space) it messes up any word ending in "a" that has another word after it.  This is amateur nonsense and I'd have thought pay software like MS Excel to be above it.  Le sigh....
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: are A and The the only two?
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you are talking about MS ... their policy is why do any right
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and why would you want to remove all those, aren't you going to use them to find hte correct keyword for the mapper area?
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: That's exactly what I'm going to use them for, which is why I need words like "a", "of", and "the" to go away
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: I did the same, didn't remove 'a', though, not as common as the other.
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: what is an example of removing of?
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: True, only 5 areas start in "A" but if you accidentally run to "A Peaceful Giant Village" instead of "A Magical Hodgepodge", that could be bad
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: The Realm of Infamy 
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: ok so that one should be easy to remove because it is " of ", right?
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I just used notepad++ to do it, which also isn't perfect, but it's all good.
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: this is ugly but it should take care of starting with a and the = (IF(LEFT(M9,1)="a",RIGHT(M9,LEN(M9)-2),IF(LEFT(M9,3)="the",RIGHT(M9,LEN(M9)-4),IF(LEFT(M9,1)="a",RIGHT(M9,LEN(M9)-2),M9))))
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: that should work but there is a dupe for "a", i can remove and PM ou
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: another ghetto fab way would be to add a character to the beginning of the names, then you could do "xthe " or "xa " or whatever you wanted after that
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inix Tech: clever...force an anchor char
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: or use VBA with regex in exel
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you do know that if all you want is the keywords  --> speedwalk keywords works ... right?
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: how do i get the mapper to get and use a key?
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: make a customized "exits"
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: mapper cexit
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: well yea... but say like kaboli, you have to get those two passes in another room then go to another room to use them. how would you set that up
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I usually buy both and add keep to them so that my cexit is just moving up
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: but for there in specific i set my xset mark to right after those passes so when I xrt kob that it runs right to after the passes get used
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: koba? do the goal so no more need passes
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: that sounds too logical
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: not everyone wants to do goals, his question was about how to do a cexit
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you can do speedwalk to go buy it, go back and use it.  just stack commands into the speedwalk using 4 ;'s in between each command
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: yeah, mapper cexit that guard room;buy pass;buy 2.pass;run eu
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: i used that area as just an example, just figuring out the best way to get/use keys in mapper. i guess when you get to a locked door you can just command it to run to the key then come back?
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: it wont like like - when you hit the door and need key, you need to put it in there before hitting the door so you eventually get more more keys/passes in your inventory which isnt necessary
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah that one in speedwalk isnt pretty but the passes are super cheap heh
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: tryllus , so i need to cexit the room with the pass, and it will know to go there before attempting to go up?
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: you can do this, and xset mark up from guard so itll automatically do it everytime you go there
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: there is also some lag on that guard, so you wanna do cexit ;up;wait(0.5)
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: DA Monster Tryllus nods at CoffeeBreak.
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i forgot this wait command since ive done koba goal
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: okay. cexit both rooms. and just type xset above?
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: no need cexit both rooms, just one and stack commands in there
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: and xset mark up so itll do it automatic every time
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: really no need xset the room up, if you do a cexit in the room leading up, your mapper will aways count that as the shortest route, even though the cexit takes you all over the place
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: yeah but its nice to land after the wait so that you immediately start into hunttrick if you are using S&D
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Varrion goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: well, not always you want to go past that guard though I suppose, personally I'd want to start the hunt trick before you go past him, but it's a matter of preference I guess
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: you can experiment with it, Varrion and find the best way to put xset mark before or after guard
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: and is there a way to see the cexit you put on a room? to edit
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: mapper cexits here
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: mapper cexits here, but that shows the whole area
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mapper thisroom - will show cexits under exits list
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: on my bast spellup its no longer casting a certain spell. ive tried refresh and resume. any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: does it cast other spells, or does it stop at that spell and not continue?
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: i casts other spells just not that particular one anymore.. idk why
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which spell?
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: it*
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: A Bast is among us!
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: heighten senses and haste for some reason
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: if its not working anymore, did you just updated your mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: sometimes you get lucky and Bast is here :)
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: help samespells
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There are some spells that have the same affects.
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: help samespells
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: isnt blocked or same spells. i do know that
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Haste = Accelerate, Heighten Senses = Detect Hidden/Invis, Night Vision.
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what does "bsp list" say? are there any letters in the columns next to that spell?
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: yes turie. i know thank you. no nothing is blocked or pending in list
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what happens if you cast haste?
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: i do have some spells disabled as they should be but not those two which are needed and were working last night
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: they do cast if i type spellup
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I know what has happened.
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have similar issues. You have had a spellup from someone else or gotten spells and the samespells affect occurred. This put them on the "disabled" list.
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: but they dont list as disabled? and im clear of all effects but my own
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Do you use the spellup mini-window?
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Varrion nods at Turie.
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Click on the right of the second colon for the spells.
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khalad Tech: There is a mini window!?
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can click on the D column for all the disable list to be pulled to the top of the list.
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Khalad: Yes. Do you use the Mini-Tab window?
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: but they are not disabled
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Khalad: Click on the "Spellup" word for the Window to pop up.
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Varrion: Odd.
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Varrion: Click on the "Spells" Tab and see if there is a R next to it.
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khalad Tech: I use the default aardwolf mush and search & destroy. 'tis all I have.
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Khalad: Bast's Plugins has the Spellup Mini-Window.
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: it is toggled as requested 
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khalad Tech: Found in bastmush?
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Varrion: Odd.
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: i dont get what the problem is or why its just two . everything else is toggling
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you do "bsp info haste", do you see any blockers? Is spellup yes?
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: both say spellup yes and no blockers
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you remove it and add it, does it still do the same thing?
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: im going to give that a shot after my timer is up on the spells
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: disrupt it?
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: remove it now, then when haste wears off, add it back and see if it auto casts it.
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: thank you Bast, Turie seems that all worked!!
T3/r7/2017-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: is there a decent way to cexit the entrance to citadel?
T3/r7/2017-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: how do I turn msp on?
T3/r7/2017-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What is MSP?
T3/r7/2017-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: Mud Sound protocol.
T3/r7/2017-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Anyone know of a good NGFF SSD?
T3/r7/2017-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Line   42: Attribute name 'data-pjax-transient' not followed by '=' (Cannot load)'
T3/r7/2017-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that code isn't even in my script, what is going on?
T3/r7/2017-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Eh, that just means someone saved the link rather than copy/paste and tried to install.
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I actually don't know what room I'm missing
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: so just to be clear, I don't need to generate a long hex string to use as my mushclient plugin id's, right?  I can just as easily use "starling_is_the_coolest_person_in_the_history_of_ever" and aside from that statement being a complete lie, it would work?
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: there is a guidgen that will generate ids for you.
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'd prefer that the id's be human readable, at least the id's of my scripts
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: easier to tell if AwesomeScript v1.3.7 is involved when the id is "awesome_script_132" instead of "8767770898defabc"
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: how i can change room for first room in area?
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: xset mark
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: if you're using the mapper in the aardclient, anyway
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: np!
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is if you are usins S&D, mapper is quite different thing
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and finger Starling to get bug-free improved S&D version
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: you're uite right
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: improved? neat!
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you need more improvements, Starling is always happy to add them :P
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: might as well make the announcement
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Search and Destroy 1.3.2 is up, see link in my desc.  Details in the readme.
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you use aardclient do not use S&D - consider getting it, then you can complete most campaigns & gqs in 5 minutes or so (after exploring enough of aard world)
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: also, "improved S&D" means that you only need to sell 1/4 of your soul in order to use it, instead of having to sell your entire soul
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: what if I already sold my entire soul? Do you take rain checks?
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: new hell gov't tax changes make it less profitable to buy the whole soul at once, sadly
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Plugin "id" field must be 24 characters long (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ... it's 22 characters long
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: unless it means exactly 24 chars?
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: use 5793E929-69F3-4bd5-B205-AF46E9628836 :)
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: it looks as if it uses 24-char IDs, don't know how they are generated, though.
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Oh, wow, I guess you can't actually use words in the plugin id.  It has to be hex digits.
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Well that's about as useful as nothing
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: I wrote a plug-in. I don't remember giving it an id. I think the built-in plugin converter does the assignment.
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: There's a 'get unique id' function included with mush, it just hashes your MAC address or whatever to generate it
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's a shame, the hex strings tend to all look alike to me
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: can anyone point me to an updated plugin for exits? i know there was an old one
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: you mean plugin with search and destroy or just exits (this one I dont know if thers a plugin for it)
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: it was a miniwindow that listed the exits
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ah, i dont know about this plugin..
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Anyone have any recommendations for a fixed width font supported by mush?  I'm looking for something with 14-pt characters that isn't courier new.  Dina looks interesting, but it only scales up to 10-pt as far as I can tell.
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: fixedsys?
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Bitstream is nice.
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: thanks, I'll check those out :)
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I use Consolas or Lucida Console
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Deja Vu is another good one.
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Thanks everyone.  I think Consolas is the winner :)
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It looks great in my setup
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: So if editing a plugin I just work on the xml file directly with notepad++ set to Lua.  Is there an easy or quick way to get a 'blank' plugin XML file?  I.e. one with no aliases, triggers, Lua code, etc.?
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: use plugin generator in mush
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Plugin Wizard. Control-Shift-Alt-P
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Do so without adding any triggers/aliases/variables selected.
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Hmm, okay
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: do cexits in the mapper automatically generate the way back out?
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torax Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No, how would you reverse something like a cexit?
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: and, to be clear, no
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lundfu laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: if it's a door that seems simple
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Cexits don't always HAVE a way out.
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: a cexit is just like any other exit they only difference is that it is not name, north, east, west, south, up or down.
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: And it can't be opened/closed.
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And it doesn't appear in gmcp!
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: though for those of us who have played a while they function a lot like in-room portals.
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: So it's just like any other exit only totally different.
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: it is as different to north as south is to north.
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: Back to the mapper, I mapped my aura of the sage for getting into call of heroes. Now, when I try to SnD to lidnesh, it takes me there and gives me an error. How can I sort myself out?
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You really going to say "gives me an error" and not actually give us the error?
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what's going on
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ?
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: need to go to recall and type runto lidnesh and there type xset mark
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: it's the new show 'What's my Error' :)
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: questions:  1) what S&D version?  2) what do you mean by 'mapped the portal to call of heroes' ?  3) What did you expect the script to do, and what did it actually do?
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: The error is I hold portal, enter portal, then end up in a room with no exits.
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: does it contain the word "direction"?
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: It's probably Mystlin's room, then
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: That is where the portal leads to
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: It is his room. Exactly
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You'll need to cexit that room for friend, foe, and fun.  And possibly recall or port out, but I forget if that room is noport/norecall
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: I made a cexit for using th eportal, then saying fun. Now, when I try to xcp to lidnesh, I use that cexit and lock myself inside his room instead.
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: but put cexits for friend, foe, fun since those are the 'exits' (mprog commands but meh) from that room :)
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: there's a cexit to get into call of heros. the runto does it automatically but to mapper it, you need to put it in manually
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: How can I delete my cexit to use the portal to call of heros?
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: also, you may wish to use 'mapper portal' to set up that portal rather than a cexit.
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: that would be a start
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: right click room on mapper display, delete exit
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: thanks. I will look into the mapper portal command...
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: also, if your S&D is old (if the window 'jumps' when you grab the title bar and try moving it, then it's old) you should upgrade to the newest version, linked from my whois/finger info.  The xrunto area in the old version is glitchy at best
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the number of times it ran me to the wrong room and got me killed... it was less 'search and destroy' and more 'search after getting destroyed' :)
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i redid the xrt on mine completely.  #winning
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it, like, uses area short names and whatnot, properly
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: nods, I redid it as well
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: nothing more frustrating than "xrt manor" and end up in manorville
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: runto roulette :)
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: well, I've been nice and relaxed since her exit, I am not sure I want to take a chance and ruin my sanity again :)
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: mis :)
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: omg
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: I use multiple devices to play Aardwolf, all using MUSHclient. Could I get a suggestion or two on how to use the same client information between devices? That is to say, keep building on the same mapper, instead of starting fresh on each device.
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: common storage location
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: are you able to sync dropbox on all devices?
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: isn't that auto?
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: dropbox, onedrive, thumb drive, something that you can always actually launch Mush from the same location
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailImm Anaristos Tech: cloud mudding!
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: just drop the entire muhs folder in onedrive and whaola?
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: suppose that made way too much sense :P
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tricksy Bamboo Tech: Whoala would've been awesome
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Took me a minute to realize "whaola" was supposed to be "voila"
T3/r7/2017-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tricksy Bamboo comforts Acidrayne Arcidayne.
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: how can i transate the line number provided in a MUSHclient compile error to what is in my script file? Such as, expected (to close '{' at line 422) near 'end
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: start counting from the cdata part
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: if you are using a script and not a plugin, the numbers are correct.  Otherwise, start where it says <script> <![CDATA ...
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: thank you !
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, it's a bit annoying :P  Sometimes I do development in a script before migrating to a plugin because of the line number discrepancy
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i am just editing it straight in the xml file
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: In that case, you'll need to translate the line numbers
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I upgraded mush from r1825 to r1937 and I no longer see the time to the next tick on the bottow left of the status bar.  Could someone point me to a configuration option that will enable that again?  I've looked through all of the options I could find but I'm just not seeing that one.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: aardwolf_tick_timer.xml is not loaded by default
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: it is a plugin but i don't recall it existing with the latest. s/b in your backup copy of an older version
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: what Endy said. Would be good to know if your copy has that plugin. Mine didnt
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ah, I didn't realize it was a plugin.  I thought it was built in to mush.  I'll look for that.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Thanks everyone.  I grabbed the tick_timer plugin Endy mentioned from the r1825 mush build and everything is working again.
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyblood Tech: how to disable that extra info that appears on tick? [4196/4196hp 3997/3997mn 2631/2631mv 0qt 944tnl]
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Thats' your prompt. You can turn it off by typing 'prompt'
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: That's your prompt...
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyblood Tech: Ty
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Also, go quest
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne snickers with Birdbrain Metria about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyblood Tech: I'm helping a friend of mine getting past the tutorial so i'm not questing.. for now..
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyblood Tech: my mapper is bugged, how do i update it?
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: resetaard?
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: HAve you tried turning it off and back on again?
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyblood Tech: Lol
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: occasionally my mapper will go a bit wonky, and even resetaard doesn't work, so I just disconnect and reconnect.
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyblood Tech: My mapper is still bugged, stuck on another area map
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: if your Aardwolf.db crashes, then, try using your backup copy from C:\MUSHclient\db_backups  
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: Does anybody own a galaxy note8
T3/r7/2017-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel retreats back into her hole.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: ummm is there an emulator for IoS to use android?
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: i mean if i can play 8bit games with an emulator y not right? get on it folks
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: Is there a way to disable the hunt trick entirely from SnD? I have most areas well mapped and all it does is slow me down. ><
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: hunt trick has nothing to do with mapping. having a good map is a prerequisite of it
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: if you simply want to run to the area, use xrt (it's included in the mapper extended that comes with snd)
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: mapper extender*
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: Well, when I xrt 1 to go to my next campaign mob, I often run to the area then start hunt spamming
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: no, not xrt 1, xrt <shortname>
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: when that happens, I end up in a loop and the rooms with the mobs do not display 
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: oh. Will try that when I recover my corpse. Thanks
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: contact Starling, if you use S&D 1.3.2
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: the only time it starts auto-hunting is if you do like xcp 1 etc.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: what he described is not a bug. xrt doesn't take campaign index parameters, so it's all good :)
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Byrnatha nods.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: I keep hearing about it, what is the hunt trick?
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: help hunt trick
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: help hunt trick
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: LOL!! ok then.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it greatly helps with cp that have multiple mobs with same keyword (like grov in Zangar)
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: or princes in ft1/2
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: Gotcha!!  Way cool!
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: How do I stop MUSHclient from reinstall/renable Hyperlink_URL2 xml?
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Stop disabling it and use the toggle.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: awesome. How can I learn where the toggle is? I toggled off what I could find in MXP and hyperlinks are still default underlined
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Not at home to tell you, but will check in an hour or so.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: awesome, thanks Arcidayne. As a test, this is an example of the output that shows as underlined. \\\x=Hyperlink("say hi","text here","hint here","lightgreen", "black",1);Print(x)
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: guess the Print(x) cannot be capitalized. gotta be print(x)
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Why do you not want hyperlink, by the way?
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I have several in a row and it confuses my eyes
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: ... where do you have several in a row?! :p
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: an example would be s&d
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Ah, hmm. I think S&D would break if it were removed. Probably what's enabling it to begin with.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I checked with a few others and their s&d output doesnt have that.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: and if i remove the s&d, the underline still persists with the command i shared
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so you dont want underline, not hyperlink, right?
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yep, i want hyperlink but for there to be no underline
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: That's a different story, then.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: And a different solution.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Okay, since it's more related to S&D than not, you can change it in S&D. Open up the Mapper_extender file, and do a search for "Hyperlink". For each instance, before the closing ")", add ", true" -- that will remove the underlines.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i will be ..., thanks brother Arcidayne. I didnt realize there was this add'l option. It even removes the hyperlink when i do my custom formula above. there must be something somewhere defaulting that to false
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Hyperlink as a function does. Lua has a 7th argument that you can add for NoUnderline.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It defaults to false, but you can add "true" to make it show nounderline.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: As a side note, anything else that uses Hyperlink will still show it, but it won't be S&D.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: But hopefully it's easier on your eyes.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: makes sense ot me. much easier. was kind of odd I couldn't find a master option to toggle. We have one GetOption("underline_hyperlinks") , but toggle it wasnt changing anything
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Yep, all well. Thanks again, Arcidayne
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Sure thing.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Are there any plugins that help with note writing?  I'd like to write long notes in some sort of editor and then have the plugin feed the data to the mud's note system.  Has anyone done that?  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Easier done in an external editor, like notepad++ or something. Then just cut n paste.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: arcidayne wrote one, finger him
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: cutting/pasting doesn't work unless you use very small amounts to paste.  Otherwise, it kills the connection when I try
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: thanks, I'll check out Arcidayne's scripts
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I'm not sure if I updated it to the version I use, though. Hmm.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Let me check if I did or not.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yep, looks like it's updated.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: great, thanks again!
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Have any questions on how to use it, let me know.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: will do :)
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Pretty straightforward, and I use it constantly.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: winkle's s and something seems borken. Doesn't load when I look at it
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You have to load it, not look at it.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I was looking at it and it said wireless
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it's shy, look away when you do it
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Think Super Mario Bros' Boos.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: As a side note, you do have to use @w to send blank lines. Haven't perfected that aspect of the writer, and probably never will.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's a very nice plugin arcidayne.  It works great as long as you don't accidentally try to post on the announce board :P
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Oh, that /isn't/ the latest version after all. I added a check for that in the version I have. Whoops.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Will not allow you to post to Imm-only or non-post boards like Rankings.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Let me... er, uh, fix that.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Heh, it's not a problem.  I should have thought to check what board I was on first :)
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: i tried to create an execute alias in CTRL+SHIFT+9, only 1 sentence in it but when i triggered it, it have more than 10 similar commands executed
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: im only having problem with this, i have several other alias
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: im doing "heel" then "order newbie sleep" on the next sentence
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: are you sending to execute or world?
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: do you have "heel" or "order" aliased to anything else?
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sending to world will bypass any other client aliases
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: or fixing your alias would help
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: erm no
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: ok i'll try world
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: AH!!! World works perfectly
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: interesting, thanks Endymion and Durel for your help!
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so you have some, erm, loose aliases
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: loose aliases? what does it mean?
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm always glad to suggest a solution to something that ended up not being the problem.  You're welcome :)
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: well i believe it's related still, i might some these 2 being aliased somewhere in some of my plugins lol
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: I have been working on an alias and then make some crazy alias 
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Durel: The new version is uploaded if you want it.
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: thanks, I'll grab that in a sec
T3/r7/2017-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: 0h
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: tech -h fail!
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: What is the default font that lines up the lists properly?
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: dina, i believe but any monospaced font will work
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: anything mono spaced
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I just switched to the Consolas font and I'm pretty happy with it.  It's a fixed-width font like you are looking for.
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: Thanks everyone for the answers.
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: How can I map Sendhia to a route that will get me through vidblain?
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: do you use s&d?
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: yessir
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i think its xset vidblain
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: toggle is on/off
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if on it will run you there, then resume actual destination
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: Thanks. Will play with that
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: i hate u all
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: lol sry no s&d here.  :(
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: why not?
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: hate is such a strong word
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: iphone....
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ah, bought iphone cant afford a computer
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: samsung phone....
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: the struggle
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Should just get a trivia portal to Sendhia.
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: How would I do that?
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aseigan Tech: Tps I have ^^
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: but the right word pleiades
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: would so much rather android
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: windows phones
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Aseigan: It's 15 tps, but read 'help trivia portal' for help on requesting one.
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: donation?
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: fees?
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Ressem: So quit bying iPhones and buy an Android. Duh. Bill Gates uses Android. (True story)
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: bying -> buying
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but everyone else has an iphone!
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: I use whatever Abelinc tells me to use
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: $999 for an iPhone X. Yeah, no thanks.
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: abelinc uses a jitterbug
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: jitterbug!
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: bonus is i soldered an android charging port into my iphone... wifey picks phones... <--- the other struggle
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if jitterbug was able to incorporate candy crush, they'd sell billions
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: magic
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: ahaa
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Tell your wifey to man up and buy a real phone.
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: does she have purchasing powers though?
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: lol i like s** 
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Your iPhone sucks if it censors sex.
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: hence the 3 kids but she likes ios but i just alt it as much as i can ty proxy
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: i did didnt feel like checking help file so i dont get flamed
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: my iphone dont censor a f*ing thing lol
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Now that will get you in trouble.
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but you play aard on an iphone
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Can't censor out curse words.
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i've heard enough
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: youre welcome :) 1 out of 2 aint bad
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It's the same thing as actually saying the word. :p
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: iphone doesn't even support mxit :(
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Mxit doesn't support Mxit.
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: ugh ur right but i blame the captn 
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: I just got a new ericsson flip phone from Abelinc
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you need to take charge.  be the captain
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: and i know but whT am i gonna do... almost 10 yrs... and im more of a subliminal messaging type
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: robbbbbbo
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i came across an old flip phone in my garage the other day. such wonderful memories.  the soft clap of finishing a phone call.  sigh
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: winks and such ahahaha
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: rofl agreed
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: an i580.  beautiful phone
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: me
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: You can get yourself a candybar phone again just to play snake on it.
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: better when there wasnt cell's and u were just in the wind till u got home and checked messages.... ahhhh the good ole' days
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: was that with a two-way radio?
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: bah! before nokia
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: ahaha
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: they did have premium phones back then though... could chuck them agianst the wall and make a call affer
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: after*
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah i broke my windshield with an i550
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: not even a scratch on the phone
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: lol like a rock
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: yellow and black FTW!
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: YEAH
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: mmm tacos
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: whoops
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i have to say, i remember my first cell phone.  it was an i370
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: back in the stone age, 1999
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: tu
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: lol was only 13 lol
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: walk into radio shack and they try to sell me a phone, i point to the leather holster on my belt and say, dude i already gots a cell phone!
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ressem, there used to be a store called "the shack" which was previously known as "radio shack"
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: lol oh i know of the shack
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: almost before my time but not quiet
T3/r7/2017-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: quite* ..... delayed
T3/r7/2017-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: whats the command for winkle help
T3/r7/2017-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: ww help
T3/r7/2017-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ziv Tech: Hi is it possible to add and alias that actually write %1 and not uses the * from the command?
T3/r7/2017-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: have you tried %%
T3/r7/2017-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: ~%1 iirc
T3/r7/2017-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ziv Tech: Thanks! Worked with double %%
T3/r7/2017-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruoff Tech: anyone here have a mac they run the aardwolf client on?   been told wine is the way to go but wnated to talk to someone who is currently doing it
T3/r7/2017-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I don't run on Mac, but that's the correct answer.
T3/r7/2017-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Fiendish himself runs in on Wine, if I remember correctly.
T3/r7/2017-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruoff Tech: yeah been told his name so goign to track him down..wasn't sure if anoen else was familar with runny the aardwolf client on a mac...wine or otherwise
T3/r7/2017-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruoff Tech: thanks for the suggestion
T3/r7/2017-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i run mush on mac/wine
T3/r7/2017-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I believe Fiendish does run AardMUSH using WINE.
T3/r7/2017-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruoff Tech: yep thanks..had a few ppl direct me that way. :) I appreciate it :) 
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: meh. chrome again. screwed up my app. bunch of amateurs.
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: once in a year their update will mess things up. without a warning
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: 2 problems. something to do with scrolling the page and getting the mouse coordinates. alright, can fix it. but the other is with getimagedata function in js. now it will choke the cpu in older pcs
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: which is better option for laptop.. only running mush and avast atm.. Choose how to allocate processor resources 1)Programs or 2)Background services.. or should i not touch this?!
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: what problem are you trying to solve?
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: CTRL_SHIFT_ESC, Processes -> Click the process -> Set Priority
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: i dont have a problem
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So what are you asking?
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: if you don*t really need to i would just leave it as is. mostly this is not helping a lot
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: then dont worry about it :p
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorky Xantcha Tech: If you're just running mush and Avast, I'd lean toward Programs... background services is used mostly if you're running a server box and want backend services (like a web server) to have more system resources
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: ^^^
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: ah thanks Xantcha :)
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I still don't understand what you're asking or how that answer answered it...
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: i was thinking first.. can i extend battery life on laptop.. so started with power settings..
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorky Xantcha Tech: There's an option in Windows that asks if you want it to prioritize resources for Programs or for Services ... for general every-day usage, most people are going to want the first option
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: then appearance.. then.. i found that option so was wondering.. touch it or dont touch it
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: 90% of all battery drain comes from the display
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dorky Xantcha Tech: yeah, a lot of your power usage might be mitigated by dimming the screen if you can
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: oh cool. i've dimemd to min. thanks alot
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: e
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyone know how to extract data from mysql and put it to cells in excel, when i try to google it it just shows me on how to export from excel to mysql, which i dont want
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Use mysqldump to export it to csv, then just import it in Excel
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: cant
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: why not?  because you cant import via csv, or cant mysql_dump
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: if you are locked to just queries... tech http://www.mysqltutorial.org/mysql-export-table-to-csv/
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: it has over 20 million lines, and im sure my work would not like that
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa nods.
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Well in that case will excel let you do that?
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You're going to try to open 20 million lines in Excel?
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: no run a query to get the lines i need
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Isn't that exactly what sql is for?!
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: then id go the route from that mysql help page i just sent, it allows you to do where criteria
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I must be missing something here. You want to dump a database into excel to run a query?
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: not dump
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: just run the query and fill out cells, basically making a table
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i think he is saying he wants to take certain criteria, and export them to excel
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: im being rushed by the gf because we have to leave so cant think lol
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: phpmyadmin should have a way to do that easily.
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: nod... it does... 
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: but he said work... so probably not accessible via phpmyadmin
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: again, id do http://www.mysqltutorial.org/mysql-export-table-to-csv/
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/19586057/how-to-i-export-mysql-data-to-excel would work too
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: ill check it out, but i know they have code running around that you dont have to export to csv, you just click a button and it populates a table
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i just suck with vba
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anywho ill be back see if i can formulate a better question once i return
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maokai Tech: you can run sql inside vba and fill in cells with it, I do it at work all the time
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: yes that ^
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: trying to read up on that, do you know of a place
T3/r7/2017-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maokai Tech: not off the top of my head, I have just had a template forever that I copy paste and just replace the select statement with whatever I am trying to do
T3/r7/2017-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: what's up with Lua being unable to SetVariables as boolean? Does everyone here switch to true/false to yes/no?
T3/r7/2017-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It's not Lua that can't set it to boolean. It's Nick's programming.
T3/r7/2017-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You can still use boolean, more or less, but you have to put it as a string.
T3/r7/2017-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: So SetVariable("booleanvar", "true")
T3/r7/2017-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sentix Tech: What is the best UI config for 1920x1080 resolution
T3/r7/2017-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: MiG-29 fighter cockpit
T3/r7/2017-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: anyone know why mushclient doesnt always highlight when using 'find'?  sometimes it highlights the word and it stays highlighted but sometime it quickly flashes highlight then highlight goes away
T3/r7/2017-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: nag fiendish
T3/r7/2017-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kholek Tech: in the mushclient, is there a way to add a window with notes?
T3/r7/2017-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: what kind of notes?
T3/r7/2017-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kholek Tech: plaintext, I'm pretty forgetfull so I'd like to write down spells n stuff so I don't have to look it up in the heat of the moment
T3/r7/2017-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: have you looked at the option of binding spells to the keypad?
T3/r7/2017-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: shift+ctrl+1
T3/r7/2017-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kholek Tech: Don't have a numpad but I'll look into it, thanks
T3/r7/2017-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kholek Tech: ah I can bind stuff to the F keys, thats great! Thanks again
T3/r7/2017-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: notes --> alt+4
T3/r7/2017-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but that doesn't allow you to do other things at the same time, so not useful
T3/r7/2017-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kholek Tech: Ill just use the F keys as macro's beats typing cast 101 over and over
T3/r7/2017-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that it does
T3/r7/2017-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: not a bad September at a particular sharing site i am a member of: Downloaded 3,339.28 GB Uploaded 4,655.45 GB
T3/r7/2017-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: guh, why does firefox just *die* the way it does?  You know what I mean.  It starts lagging and then it just flat out dies.
T3/r7/2017-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 32-bit one? out of memory
T3/r7/2017-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Should use an extension like Tab Suspender to suspend tabs.
T3/r7/2017-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I know Starling's had 30-40 tabs open at once.
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triiage Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vleached Samsung Tech: hiya
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magmerd Tech: samsung. thats funny
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triiage Tech: so i kinda screwed up everything. i was in alt 5 trying to change the text wrapping b/c i changed my font to 14 but i had runnof text
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triiage Tech: and i messed with output buffer size and now i only have one box
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magmerd Tech: my font size is 10
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triiage Tech: which is this chat, its short in length now and i dont see any maps or anything
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triiage Tech: its like the entire box i was working in inside musch client just shrunk
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triiage Tech: is there a set to default button?
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: aardreset or resetaard  can't remember
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: it's resetaard. :p
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triiage Tech: so that reset everything on display
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triiage Tech: but the box inside of mushclient is still wicked small
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vleached Samsung Tech: question
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triiage Tech: i guess i should phrase it the window inside of the client
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vleached Samsung Tech: i have 1600 comma delimited text files.
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magmerd Tech: ooh. tobacco pouch
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Triiage: So change the font?
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triiage Tech: lemme try restarting the client hold on
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vleached Samsung Tech: what is the best tool to parse it with a simpld program that does if field positive, add adjacent field to running total?
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magmerd Tech: ok. so this mud has too many people for me. thats all
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: wat
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: they're all Afk don't worry
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: I am here though
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magmerd Tech: sick
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: half are afk, the other half are bots
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magmerd Tech: i have no clue what im doing
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magmerd Tech: i like not reading rooms
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Go through the academy and use the newbie channel for help.
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vleached Samsung Tech: type who active, then dividd by 3 for real active.
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magmerd Tech: theres a newbie channel?!
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Magmerd, exactly what a bot would say
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: If you don't like reading rooms, then MUDs are not designed for you.
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: also, lg phones are better than samsung
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ylar snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how do you have zero anything but you know tech chan
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Triiage Tech: i fixed it
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling eyes Magmerd suspiciously.
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vleached Samsung Tech: if you are on 700 mhz band on t mobile in cheyenne, wyoming with an lg 30, yes.
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Xaeris Tech: Magmerd was sent here by imms on newbie :)
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magmerd Tech: wut
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vleached Samsung Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magmerd Tech: oh, yeah
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Xaeris Tech: or at least saw the discussion on newbie re: it for Triiage.
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: well, take him back
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magmerd Tech: NO
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vleached Samsung Tech: what do we pay them for????  shunting nubs to tech gimme a break
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vleached Samsung Tech: hi bots, see my question on parsing text fipes.  will pay with aard stuff.
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: 0h
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Xaeris Tech: I'd just quickly set up a bash script to run through a directory that has all CSV files and parse it appropriately.
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Xaeris Tech: I'll take my tp and QP now.
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vleached Samsung Tech: what is a bash scfipt
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Xaeris Tech: https://ryanstutorials.net/bash-scripting-tutorial/bash-script.php
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vleached Samsung Tech: ok if i can make it work next week i will reward you
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vleached Samsung Tech: HANDSOMELY
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magmerd Tech: YESS
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: anyone know if there is currently a DoS attack agaist DNS servers?
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm not lagging at all
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CoffeeBreak Tech: I want to make a plugin where I track things hourly, how does the mud send any info when it's a new hour?
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it does not
T3/r7/2017-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arvos Tech: I lost my stats window, how can I get it back?
T3/r7/2017-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone remember the command in MUSH that prints all the plugin/trigger/alias/etc to the main window?
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: is abelinc here
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Hmm, never tested this. I wonder if this would work: Execute((tennis.shot[type] or tennis.shot.lob))... meaning it would execute whatever the type was, or if that type was not valid, would default to "lob"...
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Oo, it seems it does work!
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Tested with local function test_exec(z) Execute((z or "smile")) end test_exec("snicker") test_exec()
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: I'm trying to make a hunt trigger but it keeps stopping because of the "a" "an" "the" before the mob.  How would i fix that?
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: finger Starling, get plugin from her web page, and use "ht mob" , or just check how it was done
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: err ht is hunt trick, you want to check code for "ah" alias
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: or 'ah mob', depending on what you're after: hunt trick or autohunt
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Or if you want to create your own trigger, then store the hunt mob as a variable, and trigger off the various hunt messages...
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serenityy Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: how do I check my version of Aard Mush (the build version)?
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: checkversion
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: haha of course
T3/r7/2017-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: found the file and it had a match for "check_version" it appeared
T3/r7/2017-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: cool cool thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: version_check I guess it was called
T3/r7/2017-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: some places dont want to open google links and there is a workaround.. ive only used it once and don't remember.. help!
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bodhi Tech: I'm experiencing major lag with Aardwolf... this is the first time ever for me. The strange thing is, it seems only a few people are experiencing it, and also, it doesn't seem to be a problem with my ISP.
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bodhi Tech: I guess maybe it's a problem with something inbetween
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's pretty normal...if it were the server directly or the server's Internet connection, it would impact everyone...if it's your computer or your ISP, it'd only impact you and/or others on your ISP...but the most fragile part of the Internet is where ISPs connect to other ISPs...
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if one of those links is acting flaky, then it could would impact everyone, not only from those ISPs, but any ISPs which "transit" that connection
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bodhi nods.
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: Abelinc I dont like IOS 11 from a visual perspective
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: what do you suggest I do
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}As over Raded Tech: rescue droki from his CIA black site prison and ask him
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: he's just gonna tell me how great the product is
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: and then sell me an ipod
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: and then hes gonna make me vote for bernie :(
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}As over Raded Tech: why do you think he got picked up by the CIA? it was the damn ipods.
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: He will sell you a iPhone X too on top.
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: he's probably going to take a deposit on next year's model
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}As over Raded Tech: he's nice though he let me trade in my car for a down payment on an iphone x
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I run IOS 9 :P
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}As over Raded Tech: quick someone hack abelinc
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: I think it's going to be a Swarovski crystal
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good luck with that :P
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}As over Raded Tech: are you behind 9 proxies?
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: he's on an atari 2600
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: not even connected to the internet
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: and yet
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: he's here
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Raded: He is behind a Commidor64.
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: As over Raded goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: with a tape deck
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: c64s were good at connectivity
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: He has not reboot his computer since he moved into the place he is living at now.
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they were used a lot by ham radio operators to form wireless networks back in the day
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: we will round them up
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: I should facetime abelinc
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh yeah, I'd totally answer that
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheGoat Pleiades Tech: I know you would
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goonijuju Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyblood Tech: greetings.
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: hello and welcome, on behalf of Abelinc
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goonijuju Tech: im on mobile. do you know how to pull up a settings menu?
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What client are you sing?
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Using..
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: how detrimental would be to spam the map command every 2 seconds? From a server standpoint? It is a command that everyone spams everytime they move..
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goonijuju Tech: aardwolf rpg app. is that what you are asking?
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: more like for opkers to be able to see the movement in more or less real time of things around them
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tol: no biggie, go ahead and set up a timer if you want...HOWEVER, make sure that the timer calls something which will know what status you're in, and only send it with status = 3
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: see, this is why I ask the fun questions on here, thank you abe
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leyonard Tech: if I'm playing on the mobile client, how do i open my menu bar to set options and triggers and such?
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: leyonard (and gooni): you should be able to hit the menu button of your android device
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I knew abelinc would show pu
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Dialed in with his Atari 400
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pu pleiades :P
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goonijuju Tech: no. its like that on my friends but not mine
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: he couldnt go to bed leaving a support ticket open
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: or having the last word in an argument ;)
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno, gooni, works like that on my tab...is yours a much newer device/OS?
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goonijuju Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leyonard Tech: yeah, my phone has the menu tab, but gooni's doesn't. we're trying to figure out why. my phone is newer as well. maybe try reinstalling the client?
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goonijuju Tech: mabey. brb
T3/r7/2017-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there might be an incompatibility glitch with the newer OS...the aardwolf RPG app is really just the blowtorch client pre-configured to reach Aard...it was released that way by the guy that wrote Blowtorch, but he hasn't updated it in 6 years
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: anyway for me to find out what plugin is suddenly doin this? Trigger function "Add_To_Table" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: it happens when i type train
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: at a trainer
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: and all my info that normally would show, several lines worth, are just showing that error line after line
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess that is some statistic plugin, maybe Bast ?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: i just trained when i morted and it didnt do it, got to lvl 2 and tried to train and it started
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: ok ill check my bast plugins, turn on and off see what happens
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: nah, my only bast plugin is off and its not fixing it..
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: gotta go through these one by one i guess
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or you can search plugin files for that text
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: now thats a thought
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Not S&D, there is no such function :D
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: i havent found it yet either. this has never happened before and i havent added new mods in a very long time
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what plugins are you running?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right, that error message should show what plugin tried to call that function
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or maybe it is just one of your client triggers ?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: about 20 plugins in my list
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: but the error doesnt show what plugin its getting called from
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I mean... Bast's?  Search and Destroy?  What?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: it would take me a while to name them all off
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: u bot
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: nah they just do little things here and there
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: He a Texting Bot!
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: disabled all of them and i get my info back. time to turn them on one at a time
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: only 20 to go through, guess it wont take too long
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You could download notepad++ and search for the function name in the xml files.
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: meh goin down turning on 4 at a time and eventually i can narrow it down quick that way
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: i mean, why do what's sensible when you can just do it that way?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or you could download total commander, navigate to mush folder, alt-f7 and click find text
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: found the group of four
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: just further narrowing it down outta those now
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: found it
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: it was a cp mob table filler plugin, whatever that does
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: doesnt sound like it should be affecting my training info though
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: clearly, your bot needs an oil change.
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: agreed
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: thanks for the help though guys
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is it associated with some other plugin set?  Bast's, or ... ?  Just curious
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: i wouldnt know how to find out
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: the author of it was Sonet
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: thats all i know
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what is the file name?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: cpmobTableFiller
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: how do I unlock my mini windows so I can move them (in MUSH) ?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: aard layout unlock
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: really?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I had to wire money to Abelinc to do that :(
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I still feel a little guilty charging you the finder's fee to forward you on to Abelinc.
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: has anyone tested the speed of MUSH on a Mac with and w/o and external SSD?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so I have a sendnoecho command coming from a plugin that is triggering many prompts.. is ther ea way to limit this behavior?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Do you know which plugin it is?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I do
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Disable it
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: wow, such bad, such bad
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its not bad advice, its just a simple fact that some commands trigger prompts
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: The only way I know how to do that is to have the plugin temporarily disable prompts before sending commands that trigger prompts
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I did that for the plugin I'm working on and it was a major pain to get right :P
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i use a trigger that gags duplicate prompts, so i only see a prompt when info changes
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Nice, I like that idea
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: the disabling the prompt worked well.. might spam a bit to often though.
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What is the plugin doing that is triggering so many prompts?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: period?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it is sending a command to the mud that triggers a prompt
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: aka, nonya
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: In that case my original advice stands :D
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: trade secrets and all ;)
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: is gmcp area data a myth?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: what do i need to get a table of area data? :(
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: area data?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Define area data?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: request areaImmediately request information on your current area
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah but what info about the area are you wanting?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: that is the extent of "area" in the gmcp documentation
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: all of the data avilable via gmcp
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmmm. Endymion is aiming his Gunblade right at Kobus.
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: dont feel bad they cinger printed me in headstart
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: So turn on debug mode, send a 'request area' and snoop the output
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea i dont know how to via the debug info :p
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what area data are you trying to get?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: lol.. all of it
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: \\\require "gmcphelper" Send_GMCP_Packet("request area")
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: after gmcpdebug 1
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: if you want all the info on areas, it's probably easier to send 'areas' and then just parse the output. I think that's what S&D does
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what are you going to do with the data?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: im trying to look at it
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: rate you on a scale from 1-10
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea endy i dont see any gmcp data when i turn debug on and send requests
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: one being the lowest, 10 being abelinc
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I mean, what are you trying to build?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: let me try it in a plugin
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: is \\\ your script parse?
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: oh, hold on
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: try something simple like \\\Note("heyo")
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I think it's / not \
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: oh there we go
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i either set mush to \\\ or it was default i dont remember which
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Mine's / but I don't remember if I set that or not :/
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's / by default but I use that for other things, so I set mine to \\
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No, it's \\\ by default.
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: room.area { "id":"manorville", "name": "Prairie Village Estates", "x": 49, "y": 22, "z": 0, "col": "", "flags": "manorarea" }
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne hasn't changed his once.
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thanks everyone
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thats all i got :p
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You can use tprint to get a different output, but same info
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: tprint(gmcp("room"))
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Only if gmcphelper is required beforehand.
T3/r7/2017-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: And requiring tprint, too.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: is there a way to prevent the database backup window from stealing focus?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: (mushclient/fiendish's script)
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Supposedly 'mapper backups quiet' should help with that, but I haven't had much luck.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is iphone 6 ok?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: For what purpose? Shimming up a table? Not bad, yeah. Making phone calls? Sure.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: controlling a guided missile and blowing up a target with no less than 2m precision
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: No, you need the iphone 8 for that.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: damn
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I don't have a smart phone, I refuse to pay for one, I think they're stupid expensive, but my mom just got a new iphone and her previous one is an iphone 6
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: trying to decide if I want to hassle with it or not
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Given the choice between a dumb flip phone and an iphone 6, it's a no-brainer. Take the iphone.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: seriously, an iphone6 isn't top of the line but compared to having no smart phone at all its definitely worth using
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I don't want increased service costs though
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if my phone rate were $1 per minute, my monthly bill would be about 10 dollars, to give you an idea of how often I talk on the phone
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: (i.e., I don't(
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: nobody talks on a phone anymore, everybody just texts, and texting on a smartphone is infinitely easier than a flip-phone
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: and I'm already mad about paying 40 dollars per month (the exact same service in Europe would cost 20 dollars or less)
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Lol so don't even activate the damn thing, just use it on wifi
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: at that point I might as well just go with a netbook or something
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is it possible to run lua code on an android phone?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: actually, another question... Mushclient comes with all sorts of functions, e.g. WindowArc, etc.  Are those functions what we meam when we refer to "API" ?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: API is one of those flexible terms that depends a helluva lot upon context
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I wouldn't even bother considering a smart phone, they don't interest me in general, although some specific things they can do interest me, e.g. GPS, using it as an accelerometer or other measuring instrument, etc.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if there is some Lua API that will let me program stuff, that would be pretty cool and would probably convince me to get one
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: For what you want, you'd probably be better off with an arduino and some sensors.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: and that's the issue, for all the things smart phones can "do", they're just not very interesting
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: hmm anyone know how to reset the Bast miniwindow events? it disappeared on me... tried reinstalling it
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i have the same issue with a few of his miniwindows
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I do not use Bast, but as last resort I would also remove plugin state files
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: have you tried deleting the statefile?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: was trying mev reset, didn't work either
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: too many state files ... not sure which one to delete
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yeah, finding the right one requires some research
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: xset reset gui or sxet resetaard
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it has nothing to do with S&D Mique
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you know plugin name - just open it, get its id - it looks like id="6704cfba10eafa04c20a00ab", then state file contains that id in its name: e0eb198d8d5698e3b2f61483-6704cfba10eafa04c20a00ab-state.xml
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but maybe it is just behind other windows
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: tried
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: i remember there's a simple command to use to reset all window positions
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: no, i have the same issue with bast's moonbot miniwindow ... it just vanished
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then using (that will break whole layout though!) Window -> Cascade or Tile should show it
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems that Bast's miniwins hava show/hide/front/back aliases, but I do not really know how to call them
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: still playing around with mev events
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mb show ?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that brings up all the variables values
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mb win show ? :P
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that just shows everything about moonbot
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I found that in tec: mspell windows (that shows windows) , mspell spellup show
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I suppose what for other plugins like mb it will be similar - "mb windows" to get window name, then "mb <window name> show"
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: ooh that might help
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: usually mev events show/hide will do the trick
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: this time it didnt, something corrupted i think
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: deleting the statefile didnt work either
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: had to copy paste the whole state folder from another compueter
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: wrong state file then
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: problem is that miniwin events is linked to several other plugins
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean you picked proper state for plugin, but you picked wrong plugin :P
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: not sure which was the bugged out one
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: thank god S&D doesn't fart around with whatever issues you're dealing with
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or maybe you should execute "mev events show" with "mev events front" (that is also from tech archives Remarto Tech: try this, mev events front, then mev events show)
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: What is the exact set up to use the auto login feature in MushClient?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: press alt+enter, then go to the connecting part. there you fill in username and password, then in the bottom box you put %name% next line %password% next line ;
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if that's your stellar interface between here and the beyond ... " well, this is it.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zamolxis Tech: Testing
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Varrion perks up, something must have grabbed his attention.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades points at you.  How rude! 
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oak Tender Arnica generates a null pointer
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: Ive seen Abelinc divide by zero
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I have done that also, with poor results lol
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: he didnt get anything out of it
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i need hell witb a java lang. exception that keeps popping up
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: am i hacked because im playing on a phone
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: lol are you talking about the potions I gave you?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: those are potions haha
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: that was not funny
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: lol, you were probably freaking out
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: try quaffing your errors :P
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that would take a few years
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: So wish that more websites would utilize "dark" themes.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: IMO, it should be a preference toggleable at the browser level that sites would/could adhere to.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If it's a site you use frequently you can override the CSS fairly easily
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: "themeing" isn't that hard, just make people supply a palette.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Not ideal, but doable
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I employ the Stylish Chrome add-on; it usually has at least one dark theme for most websites.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yes, but that's per site, individually
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah the problem is that "web designers" don't use the web like it was intended to be used, they use it like they're printing to PDF
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Nothing worse than sitting in a dark room and having your eyes attacked by a blindingly white page. At least make it gray.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i seem to be having some trouble capturing gold amounts in a trigger - the comma and leading zeroes are missing from the  captured text
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: anyone know how to overcome this ? Tried using the "convert to regular expression button", but doesn't seem to help
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Without seeing your trigger pattern, not much we can do beyond saying "That sucks"
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: What is the text you are trying to capture and what trigger are you using?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: her is the trigger pattern --> ^You get \d+ gold coins from (.*?)$
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: you're gonna hafta capture multiple fields and stick em together, i think
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: I also tried "^You get (.\d) gold coins from (.*?)$", but that didn't work either
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you want the commas, you can't match with \d
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: you might need to add a/some conditional statements (\,\d+)? once or twice and combine the fields into one
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: well i don't necessarily want the commas, as long as it captures the entire number 
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: or capture the whole thing, and edit out the commas
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ^You get ((\d+)\,|)((\d+)\,|)(\d+) gold coins from (.*?)$
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i'll try that, Negader
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: or just use ([0-9,]+) gold coins and then strip out the commas
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: goldearned = tonumber (%2%4%5)
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you can add numbers with commas just fine
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but you will have to do tonumber() if its pulled from a trigger cause its a string
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: No, tonumber() doesn't work with commas
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: hmm, that gave me a compile error --> [string "Trigger: "]:1: unexpected symbol near ')'
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh snap you're right i just tested, sorry
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: it's been a while since i wrote that, not exactly sure how it works now.  but i think i found some help by googling and finding info at gammon's site.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: but you can use string.gsub(theString, ",", "") 
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: to strip out the commas
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: tonumber(string.gsub(theString, ",", "")) *shifty*
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: yeah but i need to capture the string first, arcidayne
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: it looks like a good function
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's what you use ([0-9,]+) for :)
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Then ([0-9,]+) as previously suggested.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok, lemme try that
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: is there a benefit of 0-9 vs \d ?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Not really.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Just old habits :P
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: nope, same prob as before with *, "6,070" returns as "6 70"
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I suppose you could do ([\d,]+) instead.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It shouldn't.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what does your gsub look like?  you didnt put a space to replace it did you?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is your trigger set up as a regular expression?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It would still show the 0 if he put a space in it.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It'd return 6 070, not 6 70
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: the return portion reads like this --> print('amount: ' .. %1)
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: The %1 needs to be in quotes.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ahhh
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: But wait, where are you using that at?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Within the trigger?
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: send to script
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: So you should be doing: print("amount: %1")
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: this works:  https://pastebin.com/k5WPeAmf   
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: arcidayne, that works :)
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne smiles happily.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If there's one thing I've learned about regexes, there's more than 1 way to do it. Usually more than 3.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods at Birdbrain Metria.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: There's the messy way, the clean way, and the "overly complicated but works" way.
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: I'm really not very good at them, a total beginner
T3/r7/2017-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: l
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: sooo question can i make a trigger or alias to fire along with other words...??? for instance if i type "fralk hello" can i make it send ftalk hello instead?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An AardWit Anaristos Tech: it's calling subbing.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An AardWit Anaristos Tech: called*
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: that helps... oh wait
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: not
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: details
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An AardWit Anaristos Tech: you can use subbing in many ways
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: such as?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: is that the % thing?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An AardWit Anaristos Tech: read your client's sub services.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: pretend ur talking to idk a drunk person....
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An AardWit Anaristos Tech: in cmud sub is a function, I don't know how it is done in mush but I am sure it is something similar.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: yeah im on mudrammer on IoS
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: If you're trying to correct that typo, you can just make an alias 'fralk (*)' and make it send 'ftalk %1' or similar
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An AardWit Anaristos Tech: that would be more efficient :)
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: yeah typo is the prob 
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: ugh anyone know the exact thing to enter for Mudrammer?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: math is hard
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: look up how to create an alias
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or just type alias fralk ft
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: yeah didnt help red
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: oh, derp.  yeah, a mudside alias would probably be the most expedient thing here
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: fralk to ft dont help with the other words
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: unless i can change it to ft %1 or somethin .... oh how i miss my android phone.....
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: still my favorite 'aardwolf' song lately
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: o wait
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: holy crap batman(Redryn) im sooooo sry u r right!!!! 
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling fluffles Ressem's fur mercilessly.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: ty for assisting me with my drunk typing!
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ressem bows before Redryn.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: who here is using blowtorch please?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: from time to time
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: i have a window half off the screen and cant move it, how do i reset window positions in mush?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on which window...
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: resetaard might work
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: its the search and destroy mini window
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: And if you're so inclined, download Starling's version where it prevents that from ever happening again.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: you are a life saver!!!! thank yall
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Didn't realize it was a life or death situation, having that window out of place.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: it was getting close lol
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: If it involves life or death, I suggest calling 911 next time. Or 999 if you're across the pond. Or whatever the equivalent to your emergency services is.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over Acidrayne Arcidayne's head.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: lmao
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: hi. any one that can help me with blowtorch please?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Better to ask the question.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: thanks 
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Atomic shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: options backspace button
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: hold down your finger on the button
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: hard to do when the backspace goes up a little
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: alias trigger help
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: on a phone? is that possible?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: without a lot more info, yes it is.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne types 'alias trigger help' and it works.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over Acidrayne Arcidayne's head.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: no way!
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: how do i delete that
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: that was not nice
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: How was it not nice?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Unalias trigger!
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I didn't tell YOU to type it.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: yes crimzon it does work on a phone also. just have to figure out how to set them up. it is the blowtorch client from the app store 
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You did that of your own volition.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: gullibles written on the ceiling
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: If you say orange slow enough, it sounds like gullible.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: good one
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Anyone here expert on Nintendo powergloves/mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: customized weapons?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: sounds awesome
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Kick, punch, it's all in the game.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: the power glove was horrific
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i have lashers gloves of newbie resistance
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne hooks up an Xbox Kinect and uses it to MUD.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: alright back to atomic
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goonijuju Tech: is there a way t0o play muds on ps4? xD
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: With the Aardwolf mushclient mapper, is there an easy way to set up an alias to just run to the first room of an area using the most efficient current path in the mapper? I could do it by memorizing room IDs, but that seems inconvenient.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: As Fiendish would say, there is no "first room of an area".
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Okay, how about "this room I like in an area"?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just alias goahner to mapper goto #####
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: That's what people use S&D for, honestly.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Well, partially.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: s&d is the better investment in time
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but you can just make an alias if you want, just send to Execute and put "mapper goto roomID"
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: tech Whoa, I never realized that there was a "send to" option or what it did. Thanks, that teaches something.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: But what's S&D?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Sorry, I'm just learning about the mapper. :D
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so for xyl you could do "myrt xyl" as the alias, then Execute "mapper goto 472"
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Make an alias that adds a room id to the table based on your keyword (so addstart Legend 12345), and then you can make another alias to run to the id.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, send to world sends it straight to the world with just variables expanded...send to execute acts as if you typed it, so aliases are expanded...and send to script parses script functions()
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out http://abelinc.me/mapper, and http://abelinc.me/hosch
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Whoa
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Thanks, this is great.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: So I added the WinkleWinkle scripts to Mushclient, but when I tried to use xrun_to, it gave me a run-time error. Response was "Function/Sub: xrun_to called by alias  Reason: processing alias ""  no such column: r.date_added" Any idea what might be the problem?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: script is outdated
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: That makes sense!
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: use the link on Starling´s profile, finger Starling
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: you can esily fix that part by just removing the reference to R.date_added in the script
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: that field was used to determine what the first room of an area was (assumed it was the first room added to the database)
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Whoa, I had a *way* outdated plugin, turns out
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: you can in stead use xset mark to set the first room yourself, otherwise is will take the room with the lowest vnum as first room
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: (which could be a problem for some areas, but I have yet to find such area)
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Thanks, all fixed now!
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: I love the mapper, but it makes sending and recieving text from the mud very slow. I have been disconnected several times, what do I do?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: why do you thing the mapper made you disconnect?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: think
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I guess something really is slow :)
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you use other plugins (like Bast) ?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: is there a gold tracker for aard
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sharptracker could be considered some kind of it
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and maybe Bast
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Has anyone who uses the S&D plugin ever seen it misidentify an area campaign as a room campaign? If so, any idea how to force it to switch to area campaign?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the way the query works, you will get 2 lines if the "location" matches an area and a room
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: area shows first i think, so you need to just move to the next
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: The little window is just showing up as blank since it only identified 1 mob, and then I killed it, so now the S&D window is blank even though I have multiple mobs to go
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: or vice versa, key point being it will show both if it matches both
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that doesnt sound like the problem you are having
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: try cp check
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: "No campaign items to show."
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Whereas campaign check gives the real list
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: try reloading mapper_extender and mapper_extender_GUI
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im not sure what the issue is, but its not area vs room
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what version are you using?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: 1.3.2
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is one of the mobs "unknown" ?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: I mean, I've seen it get into a situation where I don't have all the rooms in a room cp mapped, and it doesn't list those mobs
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: But when I requested the campaign, it just outright said that it's a room campaign even though it's not
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what mobs did you get ?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: I think my problem was the mob Find and kill 1 * a hippogriff (The Labyrinth)
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Because that was the only one it listed, and it kept trying to take me to a room named "The Labyrinth"
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: But it's just in the area Labyrinth.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I have a labyrinth mob in my current cp, let me see if I can make it glitch like that
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i've never seen a version that declares what type of cp it is, it just lists both room/area for that mob
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Yeah, it's not a huge issue for me, all these mobs are easy. I'm just wondering if it's a repeatable problem.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: 1.3.2 detects the cp type
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: although, with one mob, if the area name is also a room name, that could cause both checks to be true.  that's an oversight
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: thanks for letting me know
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Thanks for listening. :)
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm looking at a couple of things, if you wouldn't mind, would you note me your cp list?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Aw damn, I already completed it. Let me see if I can pull it up from history.
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: which mapping script would you guys recommend for mudlet? having a hard time finding any
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd recommend getting the aard MUSHclient package and dropping Mudlet...
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Damn it, my vacation is over AND I have to agree with Abelinc? Sonofa..
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: considering 4 people use mudlet and 141 mushclient-aard, i'd agree with Abelinc
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: probably right
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: more familiar with mush anyway
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: will it work with wine?
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Fiendish actually develops the mushclient package for aardwolf with wine, IIRC
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the guy that develops the Aard MUSHclient package uses it exclusively under Wine
T3/r7/2017-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: right on
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kholek Tech: guys, I somehow close the window that showed my stats in MUSHclient, where can I open that window?
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: aardreset
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: or reset aard. Something like that
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Though, how did you close it?
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: There isn't a "close" option on the stats window.
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am kind of interested in that also
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kholek Tech: no idea, it was just gone
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: So I'm guessing you uninstalled the plugin.
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kholek Tech: thats impressive of me hahah
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kholek Tech: anyway thanks guys :D
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: Is there a way to avoid having the mapper use a specific portal except to go to that area? I keep having it use backstage pass and then get trapped by a door in Drageran empire
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: like if I want to go to house of cards, don't use Backstage Pass even though it may take me close
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Add level lock headed out of drageran
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Set an exit lock on that room is your best bet, I guess.
T3/r7/2017-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: perfect! thank you both!
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: anyone have suggestions on how to resolve mushclient error "Trigger function "help_redirect" not found or had a previous error." ... it seems to be taking over my output (main window)
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: reload the plugin
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: .. umm which plugin ? idk wtf is causing it ... 
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: miniwin_help.xml
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: may want to even just disable it
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if it keeps happening anyway
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i disabled it and it stopped the main window lockout ... reinstalled it ... and then re-enabled it ... now to see if it works
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: nope ... Reason: processing trigger "multi_line_help"
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: nope ... Reason: processing trigger "multi_line_help" ...ktop\oldMUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua\aardutils.lua:120: bad argument #1 to 'RGBColourToName' (number expected, got nil)
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: probably something incompatible, out dated plugin
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i am looking at my MUSHclient log and at some point in the log i start seeing double lines of all output. any idea what would cause that and if it's actually happening to me or just in the log?
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: alcohol
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ressem Tech: mmmm
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: blame it on the ah-ah-acohol?
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades giggles.
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i started checking the log because everyone once in awhile my client output will lag or freeze. then when i check the log, there are double lines about when it slows down
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: I'm using the Aardwolf Mushclient on two PCs, is there a way to easily transfer the map database from one to the other?
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: copy on usb stick
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: I mean, do I just copy a particular file and overwrite it on the other PC?
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I use onedrive or any storage service. After you finish on one comp it overwrites the directory on the other.
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: yes, you can copy the file aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: I have Dropbox, but my Mushclients and Dropbox folders are in slightly different places on both PCs, so it complains about the path
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Oh, perfect
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: That did the trick, thanks!
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: i save my mushclient on nas and plays on either a 13inch laptop or 27 inch monitor. is there a way to save individual screen layout?
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: example: \\\\windows = WindowList(); for _, v in ipairs (windows) do Note (v); Note ( WindowPosition(v, 1, 1, 1, 1) ); end
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: I do not recommend runing it though
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: looks complex
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: in fact it is quite simple
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: what you are asking is complex 
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: basically you need save in some way current window positions for both layouts
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: then just define alias like #win13 or #win21 - that will iterate through window list and restore saved positions
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: is there a way to save the layout in each pc but the database in nas?
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: or you could do that even without anys complex code
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: that way i dont have two different instances
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: if you mean mapper database - then you could alter gmcp mapper plugin and point db to fixed location
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: that could work
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: then probably easiest way would be just have 2 mushclient instances
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: however if you use mush autoupdate feature - then you need to remember to "fix" mapper plugin after every update
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: that fix is quite simple though, just open aard_gmcp_mapper.xml and replace GetInfo(66) with a fixed path
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: if i point the db to a fixed location, does that include all the aliases and triggers etc?
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: well, it would be best for you to move all triggers and aliases to a plugin
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: unless you meant custom cexits - those are stored in mapper db
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: but aliases and triggers defined in mush (like game->configure->triggers) those are stored in mcl file
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: i do mean all my own aliases and trigger. moving them to a plugin is beyond my skills
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: that is pretty simple, you just use plugin wizard to create a plugin, then in its settings (ie plugin wizard) you can mark triggers aliases that are to be moved to that plugin
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: however, *before* you do anything - make a copy of your current mush
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: sounds simple, will give it a go
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also, plugin wizard with default setting will remove all your triggers/aliases
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: hmm... ok. will backup my client before i do anything
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: though defining aliases/triggers usign plugin is fairly easy, once you choose that path - next alias or trigger you should add in your plugin file (ie do not use game->configure->aliases/triggers to add new aliases/triggers)
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: that is still fairly easy - because you can just copy-paste one of your existing triggers/aliases
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: so any new trigger i have to add to the plugin
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: but then iterating through WindowList and WindowPosition is the proper way for hacker :P
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: if you want to share that trigger in both layouts, then yes, you should add it to the plugin
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: alternatively you could define trigger/alias using GUI then create new plugin (and load it in both mush installs)
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also when you do backup - remember to close mush before doing so
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also if you use logging - then you need in both installs choose same paths to log file
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: thanks Deuter
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: is any of the port faster than any other port for aardwolf?
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: 32 vs 4000 vs 4010 etc
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i have an action aliased to abcd, but i want it to activate the alias even if i type abc, or ab.  I saw it somewhere a person used a(?:b)?c(?:d)?$ or something like that. I can't recall how that was done.  anyone know?  (regexp question)
T3/r7/2017-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: so, I'm trying to restore my maps, but I'm not sure where they're kept. Is it in the file 'db_backups', or somewhere else?
T3/r7/2017-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: folder db_backups -> aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2017-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: alright. I have a few files here that are listed like Aardwolf.db.Backup_Automatic_older. I'd just snag the most recent one, and drop it in the current db_backup folder? 
T3/r7/2017-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: yes, take more recent file from db_backup and copy to client root folder 
T3/r7/2017-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: ah, okay
T3/r7/2017-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: that worked! thanks so much!
T3/r7/2017-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: is there a plugin to track the moon orbits?
T3/r7/2017-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Toneloc Tech: anyone know how to add like a 1 second pause in the middle of an alias that you execute to allow time to s&d to do its job before continuing the action?
T3/r7/2017-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Toneloc Tech: i made an aliase to execute three things but i need it to pause after the first thing for 1 second then continue
T3/r7/2017-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: anyway to block all ports but aard? IE dedicate data to aard only
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: mapper takes me to darklight instead of flying citadel when I use xrunto. Anyone know how to fix?
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mackenzie Tech: go to both areas and type "xset mark" to make sure you have the start room right in both
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: xset mark in citadel, the area matching mechanic still has issues
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: thanks guys, but doesn't seem to be working
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: xrunto citadel still takes me to darklight
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: what room id is it taking you to?
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: i would turn on echoc and see what commands it is sending
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: maybe my mapper portals are interfering
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: or you set the wrong landing point for your portals
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I had two orbs in my bag =( It was taking the wrong one. Thanks guys
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: ouch :p
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: and that is why it is safest to use the id's of items like portals
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: that makes sense, I'll try that, thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: every time I go to darklight that orb gets put at the top of my bag and breaks the citadel xruno =D
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: use id
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: for sure, thanks all
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: xrunto occasionally glitches out though, so if anything else comes up, let me know
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: if I have the -lay_sounds plugin, do I need the msp plugin?
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: if I have the play_sounds plugin, do I need the msp plugin?
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: I installed/activated bast's stats tracker.  when the musclient db backup runs, I get a screen of stuff related to backup of the bast-stats db too.  Is that amount of output normal?
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: about 10-12 lines?
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and it delays for no combat?
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oakvale Tech: Is anyone on?
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: nada
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: nope. no one
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oakvale Tech: I wish to make a command in the mushclient something like kcast <mob> so that it casts a series of spells at the mob in question. Is there a way?
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: sy
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: sure
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: very easy, yes
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: google mushclient alias
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: that way you learn how to make more than just the one!
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: with all your question answered you can just get to work :P
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oakvale Tech: so I can make aliases. But I can do kcast gorilla and make it cast more than one spell at said gorilla? :)
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oakvale Tech: Nice. Thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: google what I told you and you will even learn how
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: well I dont know if YOU can do it but it certainly can be done in Mush
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: you only need to cast one spell at the target to start a fight. the rest can be simple casts without a target, and will go to the same target
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: semicolon is your friend, the rest is input variable and output variable
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: hit alt+enter, choose the alias submenu, make and alias kcast *, hit the convert to regex, then in body type cast spell1 %1 etc
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oakvale Tech: That was eaier than I thought it would be
T3/r7/2017-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oakvale Tech: There was only a convert to regular expression button. It seemed to work though. :) Thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: how do I turn msp?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: any quick alias to acces gmcp table thats saved?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: anyone got a snippet on hand for grabbing level and tier data from gmcp?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heliar Tech: there is anyone that uses mushclient with wine on linux? I have a problem with the mapper plugin...
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heliar Tech: nevermind I was sending the command in the wrong "sendTo" is awesome that mushclient and all the plugins work well also on wine on linux
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Honest question, in sql what is the point of inner joins, if it ends up repeating a WHOLE bunch of data I don't need....why wouldn't I just do two seperate sql statements to get the data I want...
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: unless it's tuesday
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: cant you just do left join to stop repeat?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: or put a ring on it
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you're getting a lot of repeated info on an inner join, isn't that a sign you need to normalize your database and have it laid out poorly?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: why is there repeat? are you not doing an "ON" statement?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: So I have a table of titan runs which has data on players/total time, and then a seperate table of bosses, which has data on each seperate boss.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: ALl the joins will repeat all the run data, for every boss....
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ok lets see your sql statement
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'm sure there are uses for INNER JOINS with more complicated SQL data with many more tables, but for something like this seems so much easier to just use two sql statements...
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: are you doing a cartesian join? how are you joining the tables?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: SELECT * FROM INNER bosses ON bosses.runid = runs.runid
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I'm using a wedge anchor
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: err rather: SELECT * FROM runs INNER JOIN bosses ON bosses.runid = runs.runid
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: is the boss table supposed to have just one record per boss?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: so what is the runid column in the boss table?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i get an error running that sql
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: haha endy
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no such table
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion snickers with [Outlaw] Mendaloth about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: The runid is stored in the runs table, which has the overall run data (players, total time).  Then that run id is used in each boss, so they correspond.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Foreign keys!
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I think...been so long since I've done this crap...
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Can we see your database schema?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: ok so in the boss table there can be more than one record per boss...
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yes, there are usually 3.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: so far nothing you have said would be the cause of seeing all those repeats
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I mean it's easy enough to do two seperate SQL statements...just wondering if I'm missing something here...
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: nothing pops out. if you have 3 boss fights and 10 players. you will see 30 records. but you are seeing more, right?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No I'm not seeing more.  I'm just seeing the same run data for every row of the boss.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Like this: https://imgur.com/a/leVzP
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Just seems odd to have so much repeating data...
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: are you referring to the number of columns?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: am i seeing something wrong?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i see it with up to 3 bosses per runid
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i am missing something coz it looks fine?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah, but what I'm saying is the player for instance.  They are in the run table.  There is only one copy of that.  But it shows up for every single boss.  I get that's what the joins do - just seems odd to return duplicate data I only need once....wondering if better way to do it...
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: players column...
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i am missing something coz it doesn't look duplicated to me
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: this info is basically per boss.  so for each boss encountered on a run, you get info about the run that encountered that boss.  If it doesn't repeat the data, you can't know it's the same run?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: how are you doing it differently with two queries? are you trying to aggregate something?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Let's say I only want to show data from one run.  If I do two sql statements, I can get the overall run data display it, then do a seperate sql statement to get each row from boss table.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Just seems odd to have to return 3 copies of the run data, if I want to do it in one statement...
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: there are some languages out there that can do what you say. i am unaware of how to do it in sqlite
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But anyways doesnt seem to be a better way, I use the join and get extra duplicate data or do two statements...
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well if you're just looking to make some sort of report output you can still use 1 query to do the report
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: just need logic to make 3 sets of columns for bosses instead of 3 separate rows showing it all
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Still storing that extra data though!  oh well guess there isnt something I'm missing here...
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: let me see the sql statement
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you could just loop thru the rows and store your own table instead
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: tech -h select
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: then there is pivot
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh i assume you're doing some sort of game output in lua, but if its excel then yeah much difference
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah I mean that's what I'm picturing - but doesnt seem to exist in sqlite
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: you could try ON runs.runid = bosses.runid
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i would just loop thru and create a table of runs and add columns for each boss, then you dont store duplicates
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: you can also ignore duplicates, they won't get stored and you won't bomb
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: you could do it in "one" sql statement if you treat the second one as a table
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: anaristos, he's basically trying to make 3 sets of columns for the unique mob data instead of 3 rows showing it all as per the query
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: ah, I see. Well, he can look at doing a pivot.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah I could even store it all in one table, but thought that was bad practice and wouldn't work well for things like rewards that aren't a set number for each run.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: and i think he wants to do it un lua, but was just showing data in excel :p
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: nah that is a sqlite screenshot I showed you.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: doing in lus should be easy :)
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: if you do that you can also group by RUIN and then your column is "IF(BOSS = "MAN",field1,"") as boss1 ,IF(BOSS = "DUDE",field1,"") as boss2...it is super slopy but if you have a fixed number of bosses and only one row per boss and run
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah sorry i saw that but hearing pivot a couple times took my train of thought
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: zhalut is the sql master
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: i feel like I've wasted your time here, really not huge deal :)
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: discussing ways to work on data is never a waste of time :)
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Just you're taught to break it all up in tables so to not waste space for data that isn't there, then only way to access it returns all sorts of extra duplicate data!
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: indeed.  driving while not typing is a waste of time, though.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: I am not sure that the join is correct... I just don't want to spend 2 or 3 days figuring out what's wrong with it :>
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: I have some massive JOINs that work, yours is so simple that it should work, but it doesn't.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Or you can just not try to do it cleanly with a few sql statements....
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: oh it works
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i believe what zhalut noted.  you cant turn 3 rows into 1 row with dup columns without some fancy if stuff he noted
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I mean I get all the data I want
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: the JOIN should not only deliver the data you want but in the way you want it :)
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: you need a filter for the JOIN
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: In the perfect world it would return the overall run data, then two iterators that would loop through corresponding data in boss table and rewards table
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But that's super easy with 3 sql statements, what I'll do!
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: well, let me ask you this, what is the key?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: runid is the key
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: you have duplicate runid so that can't be it.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: oh you are showing the result table, how about the source(s)?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Runid is in the runs table, and then that corresponds to runid in boss table and reward table
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: can you post a look at both tables?
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: then I might get my JOIN juices to flow :>
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its showing dup cols because of * in select
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: yes, I realize that now. I wasn't thinking it was a results table.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: well I mean I get I could return just the boss data, but I wanted it all.
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: well, it looks like you are getting an OUTER JOIN
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Thanks for help guys, I gotta run!
T3/r7/2017-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: ok, bye :)
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: can you temporarily disable portal in mush mapper ?
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevela Tech: mapper walkto roomnum
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: you can use mapper walkto
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so that is still remains in "mapper portals" but is omitted in path calculation?
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: also, if using xmapper, 'xset speed walk'
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is for GQs - I have chaos portal that leads to oceanpark, but during GQ I want to disable that portal
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I'd give up on those completely: for cps, speed is not that important (as in, the use of normal portals should be enough), and using walkto in gqs, even if only for a few specific targets, will decrease speed (it won't use any portal to get there, so probably a long speedwalk)
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: maybe make an alias for the use of those non-golden chaos portals that actually help to get to some room unreachable by mapper
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: use a database, then you can compete
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: otherwise you are screwed and should just give up
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: this applies to campaigns also
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: the idea behind gqs has to be 3 qp per mob and if you win well, thanks for all the fish :)
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: thanks, now I just vault put malfunctioning portal, but maybe just putting all before gq started is better idea
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: but the question is, is that too much tuna?
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: No fish required, you will fail al gq against others if you are not using a database that has been pruned for years
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: dolphin, not tuna...
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: potato potato
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: that was my point, winning gqs has become an obsession. Just go for the 3 qps per mob and if you win, well then.
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: gqs are a joke for people who have been scripitng for years.
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: so the tired argument returns.
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: you should just stop now, and maybe lasher willl make it fair eventually
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I do not target to win SH GQs, just getting 3 qps for easy mobs
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but then Oceanpark is easy area so those mobs I want to get
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: being the guy who literally made s&d a joke... I can say pretty fairly, stop now unless you scripted your way to the top
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: tol, are you ant alt?
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am an alt, sure. I am an alt of the guy who got a silver medal for playing!
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: you have 143 gq wins. is it that vast experience that you're using to form your opinion?
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: if you don't like s$d then don't look for alternatives
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Trial runs? 
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: or is there more to you that's not apparently obvious?
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i've heard of many players winning gqs without scripts. what about them?
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: still bots
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Why would there be more? I make programs for fun, if you don't use them for neferious means then good for you.
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: your assertion that winning without scripts can't be done is based on what?
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: your vast experience?
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: gorske
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I have compared notes wiht myth
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsloth's Tsarikos Tech: i have no scripts or bots. gqs don't need to be botted to be won
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: this in not the channel for this convo.
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: myth has his way. it's not the only way
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: good point, Tol
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is there any technical reason that S&D needs to be three separate plugins?  in theory, I should be able to combine them all into one and have it work.  Or no?
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: no, i dont think there is a reason. maybe the gui makes sense to keep separate
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: bueller?
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: oh, my screen was stuck, doh
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I really wish the plugin id's were plain text instead of this hex gobbledygook
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Gammon is still updating mush, isn't he?  Maybe I should suggest that on his forums
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone know of a decent place to pick up .wav files for sounds to use in MUSHc?
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i used a text2speech to tell me when gq are announced
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: yes gimme one sec
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: google, don't seem to be any really decent free sites though.  they have sounds, but they're poorly organized a lot of the time
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: er ... windows/media ? lol
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: http://soundbible.com/tags-cool.html
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: i use the bat one for scry trigger 
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: my gq sound is just "notify.wav" from windows xp :p
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I don't use.....windows :/
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: haha ya will be cool if there's a set of nice aardwolf .wave fiels =D
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: .wav*
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I use audacity to clip things together to make custom sounds
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: sometime in the past I saw a plugin that would play all different sounds based on channels or triggers in the game such as quest request/receive
T3/r7/2017-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jurus Tech: i thought i saw some sound pack under winklewinkle?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how does one add a 'bring to front' / 'send to back' menu to a plugin window?  can't seem to find it in the Fiendish mapper plugin
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're looking at the aard_ASCII_map plugin file?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: I've not looked at it yet, but since all minwindows have that in the popup I suspect it's auto 
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: not the ascii map, the GMCP mapper, just searched for "bring to front" but I think it might be calling an external plugin to change window... z order, is it?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not auto, Fiendish just has a z-order miniwindow system that he wrote, which some other plugin writers also follow
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the GMCP mapper is a rather complex thing...don't try to use it to copy elements
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the ASCII mapper is a perfect plugin to use as a framework
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ok, I'll take a look at that one
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm proud of myself, I added menu options to the mapper GUI to manually add/remove noport and norecall :)
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: if result == "Bring To Front" then
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: ack... ok aardmapper.lua line 1111
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually, I'll toot my own horn and suggest one of my plugins like the aard_rdesc_miniwin as a good way to template generic miniwindows which include that functionality...it's just under 500 lines including the fluff...it started by copying Fiendish's ascii mapper, stripping it to the minimum required to follow Fiendish's miniwindow conventions, so it's almost half the length
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although I haven't touched it since 2014, so it doesn't have his latest changes for saving multiple layouts
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I am using MUSHclient and I am confused about loading a plugin via a script. It works when I type the command in the input bar but not in a send_to script inside MUSHclient. Doesn't work means nothing happens...doesn't give error or success msg. Any ideas? Example to follow
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: \\\local plugin_file = GetInfo(66) .. [[worlds\plugins\Adds\z_swho commandsv7.xml]];LoadPlugin(plugin_file)
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the send_to script, are you trying to call it from within the plugin you're trying to load?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cuz that doesn't work
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: calling it from inside MUSH. game->configure->alias
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hit "enter", don't put a ;
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: loadplugin will work if i don't use getinfo(66) inside the client but it is unecessary in the input bar
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yep, not using ; in the alias
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: OK, this is odd but solved. I had to reverse the slash from \ to / when making it an alias
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, interesting
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: maybe coz I am on a Mac/wine?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it looks like that's the expected slash for the LoadPlugin function...the helpfile for it has: LoadPlugin ("c:/mushclient/plugins/plugin_list.xml") as the Lua example
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: so maybe it is odd that it worked with the other slash via the input bar?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Does anyone know a cheap free place to do a website?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: angelfire might still be around
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: \\\local x = GetInfo(66);print(x) shows the slashes as \ , the opposite of the loadplugin syntax .maybe good to know but not useful for an actual script
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: Amya: http://www.angelfire.lycos.com/
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: they are not as free as they used to be, so make sure you read the fine print :)
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can always use wix
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or wordpress.com
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i use wordpress. super simple but limited if you want to be super technical and not use the plugins. i stick to the public plugins
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: mapper data are stored in Aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: it is for the Crusaders webpage...sadly when Khelda passed she took all out accesses with her. I am trying to change everything but I am lucky I have enough computer knowledge to log on...so I have NO clue what I need. I have ot have a new address...
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: technically the mapper info is in <worldname>.db ;-)
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: what is an ssl certificate?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's what a webserver uses to let you use https instead of http...encrypted communications
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I do not need that...thank you
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: without buying one of those, you can use a "self-signed" one to still be encrypted, but browsers will complain and you'll have to click an "I know that it's the server I want" warning
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: letsencrypt.org is a handy free ssl cert broker, but takes a bit more techiness to manage
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: is there someway for me to look at a webpage and know who is hosting it?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Woot! it worked!  Added a right-click menu to S&D window title bar which replaces and obsoletes the "f" and "B" buttons :D
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: thanks for all the help
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: left click still works to drag/move the window too :)
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: you can check its IP addressm then you can check who owns it
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok...Thank you
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: or just tracert/traceroute that address/name - if you're lucky it goes through hosting service router with name like router.hosting-company.com
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I should of added-For dummies to that question
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: however if that hosting provider has just 1 server then it can be quite hard to determine it
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: traceroute points at wildcard.net.uk 
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Thank you!
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: hosting provider is https://ifastnet.com/
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Thank you so much! stay tuned I am sure there will be more
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if I add a new table to the aardmapper db, it won't break anything, will it?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yes, it probably will.
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how come?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the mapper shouldn't try to do anything with it
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: not until I tell it to, anyway
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Feel free to test it tout, but I wouldn't touch it, becuase the second Fiendish makes the slightest change to it, it might just become corrupted.
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ah, he'd have to actually add something to it in order for that to happen
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: speaking of adding things, is mush going to upgrade to the new lua version, the one that has ints and whatnot?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: or has it already done so ?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I don't know if it will or not. That's entirely in Nick's hands.
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: evidently he isn't.  It would break MySQL, among other things.
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: can mush interface with external programs?  like, if I wrote a program in C and compiled it, could mush pass information to it?  maybe as a command parameter or something else?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is os.execute
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however probably using luacom is better approach, I mean if you want to send data to external program and receive some data from it
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: alternatively using os.execute you could just call external program, redirect its output to file and then read output from file
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: there is no 'mapper show all rooms in an area' in the aardmapper, is there?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is "xm %" in S&D
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: xmapper area %
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I mean 'list mapped rooms in a given area' i.e. mapper listrooms academy or something like that
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean while you are in other area?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: nods
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I don't think there is
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's ok
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I do not really see how you could use it (I mean what for )
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: to get the room vnum for whatever reason
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so far I find that "xm %" is mostly useful if you want to find what room you are missing
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for that just 2 players go to area and both do "xm %", then compare output
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now, in what scenario a player in area ft2 wants to see slaughter rooms ?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: sometimes I work on scripts or that deal with things other than levelling or the current area I'm in, so it's useful if I can look things up without having to go out of my way
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's not a problem I can just add it and hopefully figure out sql a bit better
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as a scripter you can quite easily add another "x<something> area" that will list such rooms, but there is none ready now
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and it is almost as simple as copy-paste "xm %"
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: anyone have the PK revenge trigger line handy? (for when you get attacked)
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: something like ^# You can take revenge on
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: does that sound accurate?
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: no theres like 3 #.. or 2..
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ** You can take revenge on Perlesvaus for 15 minutes.
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: ** You can take revenge on Arcidayne for 15 minutes.
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ah its *'s i was a bit off, thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: gank 'em!
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: bastards
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wire screams 'Oh my god they killed A Nimwit Pleiades!! You Bastards!!'
T3/r7/2017-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades looks at Wire and swoons in ecstasy.
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Hah, I made equipment set aliases. Basically, I now have one command which populates variables with whatever eq I have for that level, then I can just "wearset" or "getset" or "putset" to wear/get/put away everything together.
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyone use chrome remote desktop?
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: any clue what this new permission for communicating with "cooperating websites" is about?
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sounds very dodgy
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: oh yeah I just saw that today too, haven't looked into it yet
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: googling just seems to say no one has a clue
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: some stuf fhere
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: https://www.reddit.com/r/chrome/comments/766z25/c_remote_desktop_requesting_new_permissions/
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, but that's a 404 site
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'll wait and see some official info i guess, i guess they'll have to respond to all the complaints
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: yeah i'm sure
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spookiest Raded Tech: with a powerline networking kit that has a passthrough, will it cause any issues to plug a giant surge protector with a bunch of things plugged into that into the adapter?
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spookiest Raded Tech: I'd be using it in a half hot outlet that I really don't feel like changing but I don't have a better spot for it.
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: other than that your powerline network adapter wouldnt be protected? i doubt it
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spookiest Raded Tech: it wouldn't be, but the adapters don't work on a protector anyway. plus they're not that expensive, wouldn't be a big loss if it got fried.
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spookiest Raded Tech: they're supposed to be plugged directly into the wall
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: well pass-through means exactly that. passed through so it liekly doesnt have any circuitry between the pins
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: as long as youre not pulling too many amps through it, but thats a fuse/breaker issue
T3/r7/2017-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyblade Tech: is ther any vi players on right now playing on the mush client
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Answer to Starling's question from a few days ago about 'bring to front' / 'send to back': https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Miniwindow-Z-Order-Monitor#how-do-i-make-my-own-miniwindow-plugins-use-your-z-ordering-system
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: How do i include my own window to the aard layout and make it lockable?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khalad Tech: I would look at the scripts already in place and try and reverse engineer the feat
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: any miniwindow that uses movewindow will be locked
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: layout locking is a modification to the movewindow.lua file not individual plugin miniwindows
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: ill have a look because my window is stil dragable after locking the rest
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: got a link to the code for your plugin?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: its the older consider window plugin named Aardwolf_Consider_Window
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=9681&page=5
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm. it does use movewindow...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: I'd suggest look at mini map
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: sorry... wrong channel
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Feranesa: type 'checkversion' please?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: im suing r1937
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm. testing the plugin
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so I'm looking at this plugin...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what do I need to do to make it do something?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because I see a small miniwindow, but it's not updating.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but you're right that it doesn't lock in place, and that's odd
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: it should update on xp giving mobs
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: only xp giving ones?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I see
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: gotta find one of those
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: it grabs the output of the scan command and fills the window with the mobs
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: got it. yeah I guess it updates if the mobs are high enough level
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: now why it doesn't lock in place...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's still a mystery
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I see the problem
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'll probably need to make an update
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: That was fast Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the real question is why I put the locking where I did and not somewhere else
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I never leave myself notes
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: I will wait for the next update, for now i gotta head home
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: r1938 has the fix
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: what is the process for upgrading your mushclient
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: just downloaded it.. do i need to do something to keep my db etc etc
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Not for the newer versions, no.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: id keep a copy of your db and Aardwolf.mcl just in case
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: weird.. just got a notification to update but then it took me to a place where i got the latest .zip
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: But like Kash said, make a backup. Easiest way is to right-click MUSH folder, copy, then move it somewhere else.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: right
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Should be getting the exe file.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It's an automatic installer.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: hmm..
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Finger Fiendish for the link.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah i think thats where i got it
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: This link? https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: there is the exe.. got it
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i've been running it from the zip previously
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i'll make a backup of the zip just incase
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: okey copied it over old version and it looks like everything is ok...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: cool.. thanks guys
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torax Tech: how do i unlock minwindows to move them
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: aard layout unlock
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: and aard layout lock will lock them back in again.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torax Tech: thanks 
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torax Tech: thanks l
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 'aard layout help' will give some command help in newer versions
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: What's up with pep8's 79 column rule?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a good rule :-)
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Even at this day and age?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same as the message you get when you go to post a note
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a style guide...much of python is still done in terminals...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: hmm is there a way to make a trigger trump any other commands you have stacked?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: name it donald
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I guess I haven't really delved into it to notice it that much
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nods.. thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: just curious
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: sorry, couldn't resist.  Set the 'sequence' number lower :)
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only if you override how your clien handles everything...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the issue is that once you've typed something, it's sent to the MUD and is held there...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: oh, if you stacked?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: control-K and have a relog trigger
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nods.. that makese sense...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: only way to terminate a stack
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: well one can dream :P
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you'd have to either write a client-side stack (delay sending stuff), or as Starling said, disc/reconnect to clear your queue, since your stack is associated with a particular connection
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's because the command stack exists on the mud itself, not on the clientside
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: starling this makes sense
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bamboo, from the docs: Some teams strongly prefer a longer line length. For code maintained exclusively or primarily by a team that can reach agreement on this issue, it is okay to increase the nominal line length from 80 to 100 characters (effectively increasing the maximum length to 99 characters), provided that comments and docstrings are still wrapped at 72 characters.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Python standard library is conservative and requires limiting lines to 79 characters (and docstrings/comments to 72).
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Is pep8 built into python?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I haven't tried going over those numbers
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IMO, pep8 is kind of a bad name for the tool, because pep8 is actually the written style convention for python...so the pep8 tool is just a checker against those guidelines...should be called pep8check, or gpep8 or something
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is maintained by the core of python devs, though
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Or I mean, just call it a linter :P
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Like every other stack
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course, the same people also make pylint, so I guess that was taken...one's checking for proper code, the other's just checking style conventions
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: IMO, they've blurred that line. Line length is a linter job
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: i have an external hd the i transfered a lot of data to, filled it up to 100%, now my computer doesn't see the hd, any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: how do i convince the fiendish mapper to move me to the entrance of an area without having to memorize or code in the starting room vnums?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spookiest Raded Tech: mapper extender plugin or create an alias that executes a "mapper goto" for whatever you want the entrance to be
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: couldn't get the mapper extender to work though
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: anyone available to help me troubleshoot the mapper extender?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: anybody know why when i'm attempting to import ww's s&d xml mushclient is saying unable to open or read, checked permissions already
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: anybody around here?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: trying to get mushclient to add the ww's s&d plugin, but it's saying unable to open or read, running in wine on ubuntu, checked permissions
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: HOW are you adding it?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: AFAIK, it's just drag and drop, innit?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: file, plugins, add, click
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It's "save as .xml file, ctrl+shift+p, add, open file you just saved"
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: But....why?!
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger screams loudly!
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yeah, that gives me the not able to open or read error
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: with all the triple threat plugins
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Make sure you're saving the raw version of it. Also, depends on where you got it from, because his version will not work past 1825.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: ah...i'm on current version mushclient
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: have you looked at the xml file to see if its actually an xml file?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: there is a fix, though, finger Nokfah for the fix.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: his web address?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i found that earlier, thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Starling has one, too.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: She's actually added some features.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea i was gonna say, i think starling's is the most up-to-date
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So weird to be seeing that name again
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: In fact, she's taken it upon herself to maintain it for future use.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What features did Starling add?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: The ability to determine if it's room or cp in a cleaner format, removed the "bug" of moving the window out of bounds.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Others that I'm not sure about.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: same error for his xml's
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Her, you mean?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Or you referring to Duckbat?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Duckbat isn't even in the picture.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: nokfah
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Err yeah sorry, not sure why i said Duckbat, he only had the proxy stuff :P
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What error?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's on -h
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, but he could be more specific.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: unable to read or open xml files when adding plugins
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Where are you saving the plugins?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I mean...not sure how. That reads like the actual error.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: He's on WINE.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: have it saved in my mushclient/worlds/plugins
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: on wine under ubuntu
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That should be fine for WINE
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: newest version of mushclient
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: not sure what else i can add
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What's the file permissions on it?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: what are the permissions?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: read/write
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: For user or user and group?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: But when I ran it on Ubuntu I usually just had the folder in ~ and did "wine MUSHclient.exe"
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: or other?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: user/group
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: if you dont have them chown'ed to the right user...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: possible...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: only user
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: chown -R $(whoami) $dir
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: If you run that for the root folder you should be fine
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: root of mush, not your file system root
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: eh?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: missing operand
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Also, if you could `ls -l` on the xml file, that would potentially show us if that's the issue
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: $dir would be whatever the actual directory would be
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: from ls -l -rw-rw-r-- 1 greendragonholdings greendragonholdings  15632 Oct 17 20:32 WinkleWinkle_Extender_GUI_2.xml
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I mean, that should be fine...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it's got read/write
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Screw it, 777 is because why not
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: 777 it*
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: command?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: chmod 777 WinkleWinkle_extender_GUI_2.xml
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Err, but with a capital E, just tab complete it
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: same error
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: And you did the `chown -R $(whoami)`?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: chown -R $(whoami) /path/to/mush/client/folder
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: just did, didn't seem to have an effect...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'm really not sure what else to try..
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yeah, screwy
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: l
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i feel like it's a pathing error in wine...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I mean, the rest of the plugins are working, right?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: true...
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Also, Fiendish develops on WINE, it's pretty solid
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yeah i heard
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: still, this is wierd that only these plugins are failling
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Agreed. Unfortunately, I don't use MUSH anymore, so I'm limited in what I can assist with
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: needs me a specialist
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You have teamviewer or some other remote assist tool?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: can set up an appointment for tomorrow, wifi is stolen (crappy) at my apt
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I feel like it's probably a mishap in the xml file
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Like misisng the closing tag or something
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: ...i checked that
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: but it does have errors if firefox tries to load it, though that seems normal
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: pastebin it
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: or use an online xml linter
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: one sec, it's a short line
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: https://www.xmlvalidation.com/
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: seems the only errors are mushclient related when i validate, looks fine
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Damn
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That was my last idea.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: oh well
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Can you post the exact mushclient error?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: sure
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: There's a big difference between 'unable to read file' and 'this xml looks bogus'
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: Unable to open or read
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: that's the entire error message
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: According to the source code, that's a generic catch for any file exception
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Which isn't great for debugging
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: not great, no
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: For reference: https://github.com/nickgammon/mushclient/blame/master/evaluate.cpp
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: gotcha
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Line 685
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yeah, not useful
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Although, I do see a specific catch for XML validation, so we know it's not that.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's just some other generic file error
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You actually choose the file with a file picker, right? You're not just typing in a path
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: correct
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Save a copy of the plugin to your home directory
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Try choosing that one
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: and i've tried from multiple different locations
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i'll try home
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: nvm then :P
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: nah
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered 
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: for money.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: hey fiendish, help me figure out this problem i'm having with wine mushclient and plugins failing to be read?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: fiendish is not allowed to play outside tonight
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: that's tragic, this problem is annoying
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: his fault, he didnt do his homework
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: bad fiendish
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I notice you use StopEvaluatingTriggers(true) a few times in the triggers, which prevents other plugins from evaluating. Is there a speed advantage to preventing other plugins?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Maruxus, I use MUSH+Wine. Are the failing plugins from fiendish or...?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i'm trying to install the ww triple threat dealy with mapper extender and search and destroy
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you had spent as much time learning the areas as you have wrangling with this script.. ;)
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i've done both :P only two days on this script so far
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: i have an external hd that i transfered a lot of data to, filled it up to 100%, now my computer doesn't see the hd in a usb port, any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: and this is like my 3rd or 4th time here
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: over 15 years or so :P
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Kinjin, you have now learned why backups are a good thing and there are two kinds of hard drive: those which have failed, and those which have not failed YET
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades glares at Birdbrain Metria.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: seems strange that it would fail at that exact point
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Try it in a different USB port. Reboot the PC.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Try it in a different PC. If none of that works, you're probably hosed.
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and try something else in the ISB port
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I have used those www. From where did you download them (i.e., which versions)?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: kk, thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: talking to me zhalut?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i got the 2.0 version from...like github or something
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: Abelinc might be able to retrieve the data for you
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: prolly would take him 5 minutes or so
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Did you get the WWW from either Nokfah or Starling? Older versions can be bugged
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: no9pe, starling's were like 1.3, nokfah was just a mod to 2.0 which i also tried
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: same failure
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: opend up the harddrive encloser, hd completely cold and not running at all, does that sound like a hd failure or enclosure failure?
T3/r7/2017-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yes, it does sound like those things
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: What do I type to get it to show the lvl of items in my inv again?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brun Tech: inv
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: to show the items level
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: inv
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brun Tech: it shows when you type inv
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: the level is next to the item
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: lol thats my problem, the lvl is gone
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: same when i type eq, it shows all my equip but no lvls next to them
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brun Tech: probably some plugin quenching it?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: config noobjlevel on
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: or yes/no
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: Thanks smart sir
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: you saved the day, levels are back on
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: is anyoe available?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: My main window isn't working
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Tell us what you mean by not working?  And what client are you using?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I am on aardwolf. When I logged on is saus you have 25 lines per page and then say pagesize 0...but it womt let me change my pagesize
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: so I can move around and see it in my map windows but my main window is just the commands that I type
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: so aardmush
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ugh...I am not moving now
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: is there a way to reset everything
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Game On! Rezit Tech: In mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Game On! Rezit Tech: not sure. let me peek
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: BriarRose, you like you have a plugin capturing all from your client.  Do you have a %c at the end of your prompt?  That causes this issuea  lot.
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Both battle prompt and prompts should have a %c
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Game On! Rezit Tech: Maybe Mendaloth is a better helper on this one
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I don't have a prompt right now, so I don't know
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Did you happen to be checking inventory when this happened?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Press CTRL SHIFT P, remove Aardwolf_inventory_serials from that list.  Fix it?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: you know when you enter a command..you see the command and then you see the command carried out? All I see is the typed in command...nothing else
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I know the issue, I'm trying to help you find the cause :)
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I don't have that on my plugins list
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: and I disabled all the plugins that I personally added...Thank you Mendaloth. 
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And did that fix it?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: no, I did that before I asked about it. Let me double check
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok...no disableding all the plugins that I added did not help
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: WHat plugins do you have on the list now?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What you are describing happens when a plugin starts capturing all and misses the closing trigger that SHOULD stop capturing all.
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I have all the omes that start Aardwolf that came with the orginal download. The only things I added were search and destroy and sharptracker and they are disabled
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: In that list do you see something called aardwolf_inventory_serials?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It comes WITH mushclient.
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: let me look again
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: no it is not there
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Well try reloading the the plugins one by one, one of them is the cause.  Unless you accidentally created a trigger yourself.
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Post a screenshot of your entire plugin list if you want me to take a look.
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And by the way your prompt is entirely off right?  Not just blank...
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: sigh...I am sorry Mendaloth. I don't know how...where would I post it and I will figure it out
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Type "prompt" what does it say?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I don't see it right now
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: nothing...I don't see anything but what I type...so response to any commands in the main window
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I am going to take a screenshot...where do I post it?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Close out mushclient - reopen it should work until the offending plugin refires.
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok...I will be right back
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And when you do that, type config all, send response in a note to me
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ummm...ok it is working fine now
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ok now post config all to me.
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: sigh...all of a sudden I am getting a run-time error from my sharptracker.any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, typing just "prompt data" will be better than scrolling to the bottom of "config all" :-)
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as for sharptracker, we can't have many ideas without seeing the original error message...the best thing to do is copy that and go to www.pastebin.com, paste it into there and send the link that it gives you.
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok..I will do that
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for sharptracker, make sure you're using the one from https://hadar.ninja/plugins/ instead of the one from opochtli...hadar fixed a few things after opochtli stopped playing Aard
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Is it possible to download speedwalks that use mapper room numbers from somewhere?  I mean, aliases like "rt <area>" and then they use "mapper goto <room number>" to make you go to that area? 
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok...let me try that
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shaleya: the mapper extender portion of S&D does that...you'd use xrt <areaname>
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it will look up the areaname in its internal table of area name to first-room-mapper-numbers, and use mapper goto there
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it ships with a "normal" list of first rooms, but you can choose any room in an area to be the xrt destination by using "xset mark" when in the right room
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's handy for areas which have different sections for different level ranges, such as pre-and-post-jump eternal autumn
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Wow, sounds great. I have S&D, but it doesn't seem like I have the extender. Where do I get that from?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Or rather, I tried the command, and got a runtime error?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, if you got a runtime error, it means that you have it, but you probably have WinkleWinkle's version of it, which broke with later MUSHclients because it abused a field in the mapper database instead of using its own table
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: True, it says WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender_2_8
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger Starligh for the latest iteration, which includes that fix, a fix for the autohunt triggers, and a fix for the "off the screen" issue
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok...I am adding hadar's now
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err starling
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: starling
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Fantastic, thanks!
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: starling for shaleya, hadar for briarrose :-)
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: giggle...ok
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: It is working! Thank you!
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool, it looks like that particular error you got should be able to be fixed by adding require "commas" to the top of the script part of Sharptracker, but iirc things like hardcore and OPK bonuses would either crap it out or just not record info, which was what Hadar fixed
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: Beautiful! Thank you so much!
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: 0h
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Wow, it works, thanks a million!
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob, I just know where to find stuff :-)
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sorry about fading off last night without answering any questions :\
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: happens to the best of us
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I am all fixed! LOL
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}~Goddess~ Sirona Tech: and the worst of us ;)
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if anyone has any mushclient questions now, I promise I'm not going to immediately leave
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: how to screenshot on a laptop?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: depends on the laptop
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what OS?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: My has a button that says prt sc
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: hp laptop windows 2010
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what is windows 2010?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: no idea
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: win 10 pro
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: I'm running back n forth lol
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://www.howtogeek.com/226280/how-to-take-screenshots-in-windows-10/
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cannot you just hit print screen (PrtScr) or alt-prtscr ?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: you can
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: then paste to paint
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know why, but I can't get SAPI from speechsdk to work in Wine anymore
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish lets out a string of curses that would make you blush if we hadn't censored him.
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Uh oh
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this is annoying. it used to work
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Never used it, can't assist much :P
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah noone does
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: except I used it for making sure that SAPI fallback works in mushclient
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I feel that though. Had to do some PLMN work, impossible to find even resources, much less help
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: now I just have to hope it still works if someone is using windows
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Windows has free VMs now, have you checked that it isn't broken natively?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah but they're huge downloads and I don't have free space on my laptop
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It could be something well beyond WINE, potentially
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: fair enough
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if this is a new real problem, best possible case it means mushclient in wine won't work anymore with tts :\
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: To be fair, I have to assume that's a limited user base for you in general, no?
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm hoping it's just a debian problem or a my computer problem
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sure
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but I like to know that things that are supposed to work do work
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I never had a problem with it before
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I get that, but losing your mind over edge cases is how projects die :P
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you're not wrong
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: i'm just an asshole :P
T3/r7/2017-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: To quote The Dude.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jemina Tech: are there updated versions of the mushreader and output functions plugins?
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: h
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Hi everyone. MUSHclient questions answered.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: Fiendish, would comm log filter be too much trouble to make for you?
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: clarify the request please
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: tabs for different chans
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's been on my todo list for a very very long time
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: and a special filter for auction chan - when an auction aint active anymore, it just get cleared from the log
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: oh:)
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: yeah. because auction tends too flood too much occasionally
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish declares the academy a waste of time, then asks how the hell do you play this mud anyway?!
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: hmm is it possible to use hunt in a cexit?
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's a good question. let me think about it
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: oh hey fiendish 
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nice to meet ya btw
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish smiles happily.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i was thinking perhaps doing like a cexit ah some mob; wait some time
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: not sure if you can do that
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well...
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so let's se..
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can definitely initiate the hunt command and then wait for some definite period of time
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the problem will be that cexits link between rooms, not to mobs
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: right.. i'm just wonder if you could perform several hunts while the wait continues
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so if you don't end up in the same place every time then you'll get a kinda bad result
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah. thats what i'm afraid of
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: the alternate solution is add a note to the room to hunt for the target before moving on
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i suppose that could work
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mmm
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: take the entrance of vlad for example.. you start off in a maze
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yup
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so for the entrance of vlad it might actually work fine
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it wouldn't be very fast, and it would break if the mob vanishes
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah..
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: note in the room then :P
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but if you can hunt an unkillable mob
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i got a feeling i'm playing with fire 
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: then you could conceivably make a cexit that starts an autohunt and then waits a predefined amount of time that is determined to be "enough"
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah thats what i was thinking you could do
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: so you do like a cexit_wait lets say 10 seconds
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: but you will also need to wait in the sequence i think
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you do a wait() then you don't need to do cexit_wait. it happens automatically
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: score.. the syntax for wait is like wait(5)
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nice.. i think this might work..
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: now.. what happens if the mob disappears :P
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yuck
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: find a mob that won't disappear, I guess
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nods
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess you could keep hunting different mobs until you find one that isn't missing and then stop hunting when you get to the entrance to the castle, heh
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: how do you get to the help window of search and destroy?
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: ww help
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: thankyou
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Really wish there was an easy way to switch between TV speakers and laptop speakers when my HDMI cable is connected. A toggle would be nice rather than going into Playback devices and switching it there.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: physical switch?
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Have to go through Sound Settings -> Playback Devices -> TV Speakers -> Set default.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: apparently you can install the bash shell on windows 10 and it can do "almost everything" according to what I read, possibly go via that route?
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: windows subsystem for linux is not bad
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: ubuntu by default, but u can swap that out if you like a different distro better
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i made a shortcut to the sound settings popup window, so that i can change it from speakers to headphones in a snap. (for win7)
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Hmm, Negadar... How did you do that?
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: control panel > search sound, right click 'Sound', > create shortcut
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Ah, yeah.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I just want a toggle. :( 
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: "TV sound on/off"!
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: shrug :)
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: not sure if any of this is helpful, but https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9838514/setting-playback-device-by-executing-a-batch-file-powershell-script
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Oo, that may be what I need then.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: do password requirements actually improve security?  It seems like they would only provide guidelines for refining one's bruteforce procedure.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: So I learned something today.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Turns out, clicking on the sound icon in your windows taskbar will pop up options to send sound through your laptop or tv...
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: So... uh.. since that's about as close to it as I'm going to get, I'll settle. :p
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: After Acidrayne Arcidayne's stupid remark, Real ninja Starling baps him upside the head; he DID deserve it.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne smirks.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Admittedly, I'm going to start using AutoHotKey now.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: How do I migrate all my aliases and triggers to the new version of MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Copy over your .../worlds/Aardwolf.mcl file to the new version.  That file is where your aliases and triggers are stored.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: I copied over my Aardwolf.mcl file, but no triggers or aliases transferred.  I even restarted the new version.  Did I do somehting wrong?
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Import them instead.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Please tell me you made a backup of it.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Xaeris Tech: Backups? We don't need no freaking backups where we're going.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne snickers with General Xaeris about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: I didn't back them up.  I was told I could just copy the Aardwolf.mcl file from the worlds folder.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Heh, should always have a backup. Assume everything is going to go wrong.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If you had a new mush installation, overwriting the mcl file there shouldn't have lost anything
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: I didn't install the new version over the top of the other version.  I installed in a new folder entirely.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: you still have your original mush folder, right?
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: Yes!
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: then don't worry, you didn't lose anything
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: Cool, so how do I get from Old to New?
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: when I was in your situation I just copied over the mcl file and everything just worked.  I didn't realize there was an import option though (like Arcidayne mentioned).  That is probably a cleaner way to merge the two versions.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: I'll try import, but basically I import the old world file, right?
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's how I'm interpreting it, but I haven't tried that yet so I probably shouldn't comment :P
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: OOOH!  Damn!  I think importing was the key!!!
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Damn.  Who would have thought using the built-in features for something would work better than manually copying files behind the scendes? :P
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: Copying over = BAD, IMPORTING = GOOD!
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ard Tiarna Grimvald quietly practices his golfclap.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: Spank, the ludditetard thanks you!
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Sense Anaristos eyes A Nimwit Spank suspiciously.
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: no habla
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Sense Anaristos Tech: don't destroy the bots :>
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: So...since it's working now you've made a backup already, right? *grin*
T3/r7/2017-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: Yessiree!  It's backed up elsewhere on my drive, and on my thumb!
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you know the easiest way to upgrade is to make a copy of your old folder but then point the installer at one of those copies
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that way you get a backup but you also don't have to copy stupid files around
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skalass Tech: In the config options, what does xterm do? I read the helpfile but it didn't explain much
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: turns on 256 xterm colour mode
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skalass Tech: but what does 256 xterm color mode do?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: instead of only 16 colours it renders text that is in the other colour correctly
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skalass Tech: Sounds nice, thanks for the help :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: fiendish are you here?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: he's not here
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: crap
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I might let him get online when he's done doing the dishes
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: My main screen isn't working again...it keeps happening and I don't know how to fix it or why it keeps doing it
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: plug it in?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: "not working" how?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: he not get signal, main screen not turn on
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: sounds like someone set up us the bomb
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: You know how when you type something and hit enter...you get an 'echo' of what you typed and then you see the command played out
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: all I see is what I typed
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: perhaps your hercules graphics card needs to be replaced
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what client?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: there are no rooms...descriptions...
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: aardmush
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: but channels and whatnot show up just fine in the main window?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: try 'resetaard' if nothing else
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: everything loads like normal...then it says indexing area levels and pagesize 0
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: then says pagesize 25 and that is it...nothing
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what plugins are you running?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: this is the third time it has happened...I have never figured out what fixes it...it just works
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it sounds like you have a conflicting plugin somewhere screwing with the aardmush init script
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is S&D problem
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I had hadar sharptracker, SandD and a repop from hadar...I have already disabled them...and both my prompts have the %c
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Try removing them, instead of disabling
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: They might still have overrode something by existing
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you see indexing ... then you have not disable S&D - remove that plugin and restart mush
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Search and Destroy 1.3.2 has a glitch where the links don't show up correctly sometimes, but it shouldn't do anything to screw up any of your other windows
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: all of my other widows are fine...
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: so which window is messed up?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: just the main window
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: basically plugin waits for certain line, and it gags all output till it receive that line
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it shouldn't screw up your main window either, I don't see how it could
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Type "tags" for me, ensure they're all on
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what version of mush are you running, what version of search and destroy?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: 1.3.2 in particular doesn't gag the area indexing info (i.e. output from 'areas 0 300 keywords')
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: Search and Destroy says 3_8 beside it...I don't know how to check the version on Mush...I should mention that I am a computer idiot
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: so if you're not seeing the output from that command, then you're using something other than S&D 1.3
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: help > about mushclient
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: S&D says 3_8?  where does it say that?  in the file name, or ... ?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I can't do that...no output
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: you can't click on the help menu above, and then click on "about mushclient" ?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: when I open the plugins and look...hold on I have the file...I will look at it
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: In the menu bar
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: oh that...ok
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You should absolutely be able to click that help, or your entire client is borked :P
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: Mush is 4.98
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: oh, yeah, that's old
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: very old
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: and your S&D is old too, as 1.3 won't run on older versions of mush
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: SandD is 2.8.1
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Just reinstall all the latest stuff, IMO
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ah, yep, definitely obsolete
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: type: area hall
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Re-grab the latest aard mush, grab the latest S&D, etc
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok...so I will do that. The last time I updated Aard, I lost a TON of crap and it never worked so I actually went back to this one
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Install Fiendish's latest Mush version, and then get the newest S&D from my whois/finger.  Current version is 1.3.2 but it won't be current much longer as 1.3.3 is out this weekend, after I finish up some more testing and whatnot
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: make a backup of your current setup, just to be sure
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: there were issues with Fiendish's installers in the past, but those have been deprecated
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I would just rename your current Mushclient folder to mushclient_old or similar and then run Fiendish's installer and let it do its thing
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You'll have to download plugins again, but you'd want to do that regardless
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: but it will move my DB over and everything right?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if it doesn't, just copy and paste it
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok...here I go :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: any custom scripts would have to be copied as well, but just take it one thing at a time and you'll get there
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: questions, well you already know where to find us :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello all
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: BriarRose: fix your prompt
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I JUST downloaded this version...I don't even see a prompy
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: prompt
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: that is the default prompt...how do I fix it and my DB info is gone
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ok ok...let's back up a long way and get me caught up
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: You have a screen blanking problem, yes?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: Yes...my main screen
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Right now?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: it had happen three times
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: Right now I am working...but I downloaded a newer version from your site...I JUST logged on from that
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I had like 4.36 or something like that
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type "checkversion" please
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: R1940
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and are you currently still experiencing the problem? or was the problem there before and now it's gone?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: if there is a newer one...send me there before I do anything else :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: before and now gone...but I did lose all of my DB stuff...I made a copy of my DB...do I just override it in this new file?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: please type "prompt data" and tell me the last 4 symbols in Rawcolor Game Prompt and Rawcolor Battle Prompt
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: to type @ you have to type @@
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: %c on both
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ack @W
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok good. so the new prompt fixer fixed you up. NOW
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you say you lost your db. When you installed the new version, what exact steps did you do?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I did finger fiendish, copy/paste the site and downloaded then clicked on the application file...any more than that requires an explanation 
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: where did you tell it to install to
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: Well...I didn't notice it asking...but it DL to my deaktop.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: more specifically, did you tell it to install to a new location or on top of your previous install?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm not asking where you downloaded it to. I'm talking about while you're running the installer.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: it didn't ask me...I clocked download and the little down arrow showed up and I had to find it
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: When you run the installer program it asks you where you want to install to
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: this is why I suggest renaming your old setup to mushclient_old
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: Oh...I told it to install where it suggested I do...I did
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I renamed it
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: Did I mention I am a computer idiot?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's ok, I'm not
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: only one of us needs to know what's going on
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I did rename the file...it said do you want to intall here...I said yes and didn't even look. I figured it knew what it needed to do
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ok, so it installed on your desktop then?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: yes it did
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Alright. Here's what you're going to do...
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: do I need to take note
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you get to decide that for yourself
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok go
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: You're going to quit MUSHclient. Then you're going to duplicate your old renamed MUSHclient folder back to what you had it as before, so that now you will have 2 OLD MUSHclients. Then you will run the installer program again, and this time tell it to install on top of the one that you want to upgrade.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: how do I run the installer again
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: double click on it?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's the thing you downloaded
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: so go back to your site and do it again
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you like
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or go find where your web browser saves downloads
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because it's probably still there
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok...I might be back with more questions! Thank you for your help so far :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sure
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do you understand what I mean by duplicate?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I am assuming that they need to be the same name so it will propmt me to do an overwrite and just hange out the files for me
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: change out the files...sorry
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: let's back up then so I can clarify
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Right now you have an old mushclient folder, let's call it MUSHclient_old and a new one, let's call it MUSHclient_new.  Correct?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: correct
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I want you to click on the MUSHclient_old and then Ctrl+C Ctrl+V to copy paste.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Then you should have MUSHclient_old and MUSHclient_old (copy) and MUSHclient_new
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: let me know when this is done
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: oh ok..brb
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: sorry...I copy/paste my entire download file the first time...but I fixed it and I have 2 old and one new
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok good
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: now what is your old one called ?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: Aardwolf Old!
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Would you like your new one to be called Aardwolf?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: That would be sinple and helpful
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, then rename the 2nd old one to be called just Aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so then you should have Aardwolf_OLD, Aardwolf, and MUSHclient (new)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok it's done?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: now run the installer again and this time when it asks where to install, go and find the Aardwolf folder
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok...now this is when it gets a little iffy for me
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: is there something in that folder that will say installer?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when you say "that folder", to which folder are you referring?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: The MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: so I use Chrome and when I download it one of the options is open when downloaded...so when it finished the installer started automatically. I am confused on where it is at because it was automatic...I apologize
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so just go download it again
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: that I can do...Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: So...I did that...and I still have nothing. 
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I tried to just overwrite mt DB and apparently I don't have the permissions needed to do that
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: god
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sorry, I completely spaced out and forgot about you
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: where were we
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: I don't blame
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: blame you
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok so you downloaded the installer. then what did you do
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: so it didn't work...I tried to just overwrite my database and it says I don't have the permissions needed
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: It started and asked me where to save it and I hit browed and hit the Aardwolf file and let it go
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: brower
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so let's assume for the moment that you did that correctly
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: quit MUSHclient and go open the one in your Aardwolf folder
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: ok...brb
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Fiendish this is also BriarRose...sorry I typed in Amya on accident
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: This is my main character
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you'd logged out and logged in as briarrose without telling me then I'd never have known 
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: lol...I dont care if you know :) That is true though
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok...I closed it and open it out of the Aardwolf file
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: no it still shows that I have never been in my manor 
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I checked and none of my mapper notes are here either
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type checkversion
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: R1940
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when you ran MUSHclient, was it in the same place as the old one used to be?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I only have 2 files now. I have the Aardwolf old and Aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you have MUSHclient - [Aardwolf] in window title? (maybe you've accidentaly changed world name)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: The top says MUSHclient [Aardwolf]
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: with the dash...sorry
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what happened to the new one? deleted it?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is as it should be (with the dash)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Yes...you told me to go back and do it again...so I deleted the first one and started over and instead of putting in on my desktop I saved in Aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Odd. Mine says "MUSHclient - [Aardwolf.mcl
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: ] :p
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's fine...probably
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I am sorry
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, I don't have any issues on my end. I just never noticed it until now.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess I don't know what's going on though. Before you updated, your db was ok?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: the DB was fine...I have a copy of it...I made a copy of it 4 days ago when this all started
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when what all started?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: this is the thrid time I have lost my main screen
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh right, that
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: LOL...yes that conversation was so long ago!
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you have also auto backups of aard, easiest way should be just closing mush and restoring db from db_backups subfolder
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah but if the db isn't there then it means we can't be in the right place
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which means other settings also won't be there
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh hey. when you opened MUSHclient, did it _look_ like your old one?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: like where the miniwindows in the right places?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: were
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: there is a DB there...just not mine. All the work for exploring and adding mapper notes...those are gone
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: the windows are fine. I need to move them back where I want them
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: but there are here and working
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you need to move them back to where you want them, then they're not fine
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: gotcha...yea they are note where I had them
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: not
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think either the install didn't go to the right place or the copy didn't go like I expected
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I should make a pictorial walkthrough
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: can't y0ou just control my computer and fix it :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably, but you'd have to want that
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Honestly right now...yes. I have no reason to not trust you...do I?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's not really a question I get to answer for you
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You do realize that question isn't productive? If he were a dishonest person you couldn't trust, he'd lie and say he is. :P
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Fiendish is a leet hacker so watch your back ;)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you are paranoid you could imagine that world greatest hacker Shade has invented mush just so you one day have troubles and ask him to use teamviewer to remote control your super safe PC :P
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: It was a joke...I trust him AND if he is a hacker and wanted my crap...he wouldn't need my permission
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: But you can trust Fiendish. He wouldn't put so much work into MUSHclient if he were dishonest.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok I'm downloading teamviewer. you should get it too
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you don't already have it
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Exactly...I have no reason to think has anything but the best intentions...the do I...was a joke
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Nah, hackers need some information on you if he wants to target you specifically.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: oh...um ok...brb
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne loves me some teamviwer.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I would let fiendish control my computer but all he would find is my impressive collection of cat vids
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: teamviewer. Bah.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: cast 'mind control' fiendish
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: err
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: "cat vids"... sure.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Have to have intelligence to be able to cast it successfully.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne runs away from Real ninja Starling in utter terror and horror!
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: not a best choice of remote control tool if you mind privacy (VNC is probably a bit better), but quite convenient (ie really simple) to use
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: arci is just jelly that fiendish wrote abelinc so he didn't have to field so many questions. Arci wishes he had one.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: be right back. I think I need to reboot for this to run. stupid kernel modules
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: [Melvin]: You mean like me, Melvin?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: melvin, chat Is Tol wrong?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: now cast it out into another whole player
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Oh yeah, he doesn't work on tech chan.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: At least, the chat portion.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok I have it
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne tickles Melvin.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Does Melvin ever argue with you?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: All the time.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: (Group) Arcidayne: 'melvin, chat say "I am stupid."' --> Group) Arcidayne: '[Melvin]: Arcidayne: OK. "You are stupid."'
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: He hates me.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Did I miss a message while I was downloading that...I don't want him to be waiting for me :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Nah, he hasn't said anything yet, but check tells just in case.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: he is going to find some stupid mistake that I made :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: he's currently attempting to resist my mind control attempts, sorry for any inconvenience
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: We all make stupid mistakes.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: he rebooted his system - I guess thats some osx specific thing
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also seems so unusual, as osx is some kind of unix - then I would expect that it never requires rebooting (at least after installing new software)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: What I just understood was Also seems so unusual, blah blah balh blah...I am so illiterate :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You mean you can't read?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: not when you start adding computer words
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I do not know what osx or unix are...it is embarrassing when I have to ask for help. You has to be dumbed down really really low
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now with Fiendish eliminated, I can remote control your stystem :P
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: there is never anything wrong with asking for help, that's why we have the channel turned on :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Trachx, u aren't controlling anything, ninja.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: giggle
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I have fiendish mind controlled and am currently siphoning his brain
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: you all have been very nice
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: PATIENT
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what was he trying to help you with, maybe I can advise
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: of course we're nice and patient
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: otherwise, we'd be Abelinc
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades glares icily at you, you feel cold to your bones. 
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: restoring aardwolf database after (un)successful mush upgrade
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: EXACTLY
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: abelinc is... kind of ok... once you look past some stuff
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I have a lot of work in that DB
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and scold you for not using SunOS as your default home operating system
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: what the hell is that
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: your aardwolf mapper database?  aardwolf.db ?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Oracle abandoned that system I think
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I prefer to use MoonOS. I like to live on the dark side.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: LOL Arci
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: should be able to just copy from old to new
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Starling: Fiendish had been working with her for a while, and nothing he's suggested has helped.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: The best thing about sun was their logo.  I used to just stare at it :P
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: IIRC Niagara was also quite impressive
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I tried to just overwrite the file but it says I don't have the permissions in the new file...frustrating it is my dang computer...I should have nothing BUT permissions
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: It has been about 2 hours
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: and I have been having trouble for about 4 days
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: are you using windows explorer to view the folders/files ?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but, have you tried overwrite files when Mush was open?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if so, then permission denied was right message
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: because you cannot overwrite file that is used by some process (ie Mush)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: first thing I would do is reboot your machine now, the "you don't have permissions" can be due to any number of things, often a program not releasing control whe it should
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: reboot your computer and that should clear up any such issues, assuming that's what's going on, but when in doubt, never hurts to reboot
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I should do that now before fiendish comes back?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: once you're rebooted and logged back in we'll see about copying the db from the old setup to the new
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: yes, reboot now
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: i'm not going anywhere (working on S&D) and if he gets back first I'll let him know what's going on
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: never hurts to reboot and start with a somewhat cleaner slate.  Only exception being if you think the PC might not start up again, but you're typically looking at disk damage or OS corruption if you're worried about that :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: This may have already been answered, but Amya... WHERE do you have your MUSHclient folder located?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: no...I am worried about this code I have for this viewer thing
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Don't worry about the code.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: teamviewer?  don't worry about that now, you should be rebooting your computer :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: it is in my download folder...the old and the new
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Highly doubtful rebooting will do anything, Starling... 
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: never hurts
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Your download folder is C:\Users\YourName\Downloads?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ummm...yes
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: whelp, I can't get teamviewer to run
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You are the administrator on your account?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I would think so
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: And it's not letting you copy your db over the old one?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: no...I can access the old one but when I try to put it in the new one it tells me I can't. I tried to fix the permissions but I don't think I did it right
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Can you move the old one somewhere else (or rename it?) before you try to copy the other one over?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: To be honest, my steps would involve moving MUSHclient from Downloads to root, so it would be C:\MUSHclient. Then downloading the installer from Fiendish, which will upgrade and overwrite necessary files. From that point, you should have your old DB.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Moving the OLD Mushclient, that is.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Because the automatic installer will pretty much do everything for you.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Well...when I did the installer I had it override the old one like he told me too...I just made an extra copy of my database in case I screwed it up...I know me
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: And since Fiendish can't get his to run, if you'd like, I can access your computer through my teamviwer.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: mushclient is usually located in c:\MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Not necessarily. It depends on where you installed it to begin with.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I would open up windows explorer and see if you have that folder, either under c:\ or under program files
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: that is fine Arcidayne
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Okay, Amya. I'm going to send you a tell with the next set of instructions.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: always rename your old mushclient folder to something else, like mushclient_old or similar
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: only then run the installer, imo
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: they just tend to be a bit too glitchy for my liking
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Don't rename it, Starling. Make a copy of the entire directory, then let the installer do what it needs to.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's what I mean, rename the MUSHclient folder to MUSHclient_old
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: don't rename anything *in* the folder, just the folder :p
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Don't even do that.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You make a copy of the entire directory, then move it elsewhere, where you can rename the copy, not the old one.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: well, whatever.  It worked for me, but I don't 'install over' my old setup anyway due to having a rough time with that
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I just rename the old folder and install a completely clean mushclient, then copy my mapper db, my modded mapper plugins, private scripts, aardwolf.mcl. It's a bit of a pain to move all those files, but the last time I tried to install over the old snapshot, it bombed pretty badly
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: so I have a hard time recommending something that bombs and requires a lengthy repair :p
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I am fixed!
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling goes, "Whee!"
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so what ended up happening?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You don't remember?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: well, mind control will do that
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: nothing untoward happened, I assure you
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: really
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Remotely logged in, moved Old MUSH from Downloads to C:\MUSHClient, used installer over old MUSH, and it worked.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: That is it!
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I was going to say I could log into your pc with teamviewer to, but everyone would be like "DONT DO IT, ZOMG"
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: old mush was in downloads?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It's true, we would. She wants to buy a plane and crash it into an abandoned building.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Fiendish = good, Arcidayne = mostly good but somewhat tarnished, Starling = psychotic and evil :)
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: And put it on Youtube, Arc.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods at Real ninja Starling.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so do we know what was going wrong with previous attempts to install on top of old mush?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: what do you mean when you say you got fixed?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I am sure I did it wrong
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I don't know, because I didn't attempt to install over the MUSH in downloads. I wonder, though, if Amya had Aardwolf open when trying to run the installer.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: could be. locked file and whatever
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I didnt...that was the first thing fiendish said...log off
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: technically I said quit
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: very true...I stand corrected
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but neither of those are actually what needs to happen
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I know that once or twice, I tried installing, and MUSH didn't fully remove itself from memory, so it kept getting permission errors on Dina font.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: What needs to happen is MUSHclient closed out.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "close mushclient. shut down PC. have lunch. install new mushclient."
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how do i install it when the pc is shut down is there a hack
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling walks around in the room, looking very confused.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: I was almost their Fiendish...I was getting frustrated
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: ok...going back to Briar! Thank you guys again
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: is anyone here using analog phonessand
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: analog phonessands?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I can't type
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: analog phones on xfinity, using a converter
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I use digital phone sand, sorry.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Never used Xfinity's phones, either.
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades: we have a number of clients who get POTS service from Xfinity, which is delivered by Comcast using a 4-line coax-to-analog converter
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it took me ages to convince my mom to stop paying a pile of cash every month to maintain an analog fax line
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Out of curiosity, what does it actually run to have a fax line?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: too much for the amount you fax per year
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: How much do I fax per year?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you're not paying per fax to email a scan to a drop forwarding account, you're probably paying hundreds of dollars a year too much
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: my mom was just so used to having a fax line for the few papers every once in a while to the accountant
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you know, old people
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: metria are you an old people?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: old is a state of mind
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: cheezburger: I think it was something like an extra $40 per month or something?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I mean that's not as obscene as I expected, to be fair
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it is when you can send a fax for 10 cents
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I figured it'd be higher just to maintain the backbone lines
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if a fax is a few cents, and you send a fax once a month...
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I wasn't asking for myself, if I gotta fax something (which i never do) i'll go to a library
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I was more curious what it cost for info's sake :P
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I do send faxes, if that's what you mean by "are you an old people"
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I should send a fax to you, metria
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: As I don't have a fax machine, good luck with that
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't even send things in the mail anymore. last time I needed to send something by mail, I went through an online service, paid them a few dollars and they mailed it for me from a pdf
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: abelinc will hand-deliver it
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in France most recurring charge cancellations have to be requested by registered mail
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can't just call the cable company and tell them that you want to cancel service
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: same for the gym membership
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: same for the mobile phone
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: same for the power company
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: is there a way to force line breaks into mapper notes?
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: "\n"
T3/r7/2017-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I just tried that and it's still shown as one line.  I also tried \r\n and that didn't do it either
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ya, not working for me either
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: do you know how to add new lines to mush commands?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: to concatenate commands, or what?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well it looks like mapper addnote pops up a dialog that is essentially just like typing into the prompt bar in mush
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if you knew how to add a newline in either, I imagine it would be the same
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: more or less. i can send multiple commands via execute or send or something like that. but this doesn't seem to work the same way
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: double semicolon to tell mush to use a semi-colon if that's what you mean
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: @Atlanta trying to explicitly send a newline to mush prompts
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it's not the same as chaining multiple commands
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: yeah, didn't understand your question.  sorry I dunno.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, a bunch of us are banging our heads against it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: in a lot of apps shift+enter/return will add a new line.. but not working here
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: wasn't sure if there was a way to do it or not. guess there isn't
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Nope, I do not know how to make multiline mapper comments
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I think the mapper is trimming the note before saving it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh well then that's doubly difficult
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Ask the man
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: no wait, that wouldn't trim a newline from the middle of a note though, just the end
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: guess if i'm forced into a corner, i can never change my screen width and put spaces in til the lines wrap
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, it seems to leave whitespace in the middle
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: ack, NO :)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I think it's line 551 that is doing the trimming
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Now that's just weird.  The mapper note display is just printing a string.  If a newline is in that string, the print in the mapper won't show it.  If I manually print the same string (copied/pasted) then the newline is honored.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's probably converting \ into \\ secretly
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: ah, just a sec and I'll test that
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when you invoke a script command yourself, you declare that the string being displayed contains a particular series of bytes, of which \n is a special thing representing a newline. But when I send this -> "\n" obviously you see the symbol \ followed by n 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which means that the thing that reads what you write has interpreted \n not as a newline but as, secretly, \\n
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: just a guess
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm not looking at the code
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: LOL, that was it.  If I use a gsub to replace "\\n" with "\n" then it works like you would expect.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: fiendish can you create a "portal" by dooring to a mob?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: cexi
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: you wouldn't want to use it as a cexit
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: it would need to act similar to a portal
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: can you create a portal by dooring?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: no diff between cexit and mapper portal
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you mean mapper portal cast door mob?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: maybe I am wrong
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I suspect the answer is yes
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: no its ok.. i'm just curious
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: as long as the mob doesn't move
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: hmm thats the kicker..
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: finding something that doest move :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: but you will regret it when you join GQ (cannot use doorway then)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nod
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you'll want a mob that doesn't move and doesn't have duplicate keywords somewhere else
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is a fundamental difference between a cexit and mapper portal...cexit requires you to be in the starting room, mapper portal just needs you to be in a qualifying room
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also the gq thing
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: mainly for me so i can cp faster
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't door to a MOB anywhere in the same area as a cp target...
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: oh.. thats a bummer
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the real kicker will be getting mapper portal to work with translocate
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you really want to have a command to help the mapper get places faster using door, you could do an alias which does the door, then pauses a second or two before executing mapper goto <end destination>
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: maybe you want "mapper portal [blah blah blah}" to use an alias.  You could then toggle dooring to a mob if you aren't in a GQ or using another method to get to that room otherwise
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the pause is critical, though, because MUSH cannot "read" the mapper goto command until after the door is done
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah but we said we can't door to an area with a cp mob in it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: right?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: correct, this would only be usable for leveling & stuff
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah i'm trying to make cp faster here :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: faster than using portals?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: if you made your alias smart enough to detect if you were in a gq you could use it either way though.  In a gq you would just do a longer way to get there
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: the portal would call the same alias either way though
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nods
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I read an article called: "A collection of less commonly used unix commands"
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: but I figured Abelinc probably uses them on a daily basis
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those articles are usually made up of commands we use all the time }:>
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Hmm.  I wonder if that would work for chaos portals.  I've been avoiding them because I didn't want to get hung up on a GQ
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You roll on the floor, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yes, it does work for chaos portals
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: one of my more commonly used unix commands is note
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but they have to be golden to use for a GQ of course
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: foo, I did not even know chage existed until yesterday
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it doesn't do anything other than remind me that it's not aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: there's some on the list that even  I use "often"
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: https://danielmiessler.com/blog/collection-of-less-commonly-used-unix-commands/
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the downside of that sort of hackery, though, is that you write it mostly thinking about getting to one particular room, but the mapper will base all pathfinding decisions based on it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Ludicrous that those are "less commonly used". xargs gives you wings lol
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rofl, brew
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades grins evilly.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some of them are less commonly used because they're the dumb way to do something
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and tmux: a better screen? blasphemy! (I still use screen)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I use screen because it's easier to use
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: fuser, I think that a lot
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I almost switched from screen to tmux last time they changed data structures and it couldn't reattach across versions.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Then I looked at the tmux changelog, and they broke attaching across versions about a month earlier.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah but having done it once they'll probably never need to do it again
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Oh, I've already lived through them doing it several times.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: It'd be nice to not have to do it again, but tmux apparently won't fix that, so...
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: attach across versions? updating screen on the system in the middle?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Yeah.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my only long-term screen usage is aard, so it's not horrible if I have to totally disc it for an upgrade
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: incidentally, I've gotta upgrade the OS on my aarding box this weekend
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson has 33 active sessions just on his workstation.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: That's ridiculous.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: just run screen inside your tmux
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Of course it is.  Why would I do anything else?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Don't mind me, I'm drunk, so good night. :p
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I pretended to make cookies
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: we aren't all perfect
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean...I made something...
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but I'm pretending that it might be cookies
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I had fish tacos, I am perfect
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it certainly doesn't taste like cookies
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: kinda burnt tasting. and beery
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: chocolate chip fish tacos?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably because of the beer and the burning
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, erikson likes doing things to the extreme...he's also got over 2 YEARS aard login time more than the #2 player online
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is that before or after the wrap?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson wrapped twice.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Aard is a vital part of my network monitoring infrastructure   :p
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hah
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, tinyfugue texts me when aard disconnects
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: rm / -Rf *
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you plan to add "mapper portal nogq #<portal num> ?" ?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nah
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can control it yourself by unloading all the portals and reloading the ones you want to use
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now I just remove portals from mapper then readd them, but it would be quite useful to block them auto
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: -jh
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so automate it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what's the difference?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so maybe even not "nogq" but more like "mapper portal group 1 #portalid", then "mapper enablegroup 1" / "mapper disable group 1"
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well after GQ I forget to re-add them
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: making decisions _is_ hard, that's true
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm not against anyone choosing to automate the selection of groups of portals. it's why I added mapper fullportal
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but I prefer to not add grouping as intrinsic functionality
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: could make an alias which removes those portals, adding them back in automatically in 10 mins
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cp req
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: local min = (area_range[row.areaName] or {min = 0}).min
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what is with the min = 0 part in curly brackets?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: hi any one here please?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: hi
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what's up
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: going to try and copy the message i got here
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: Window(button_window) OnSizeChangedError: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: width and height must be > 0
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: ok i cant paste the thing 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: looks like your window dimensions somehow went negative?  Maybe put in a check that if the dimensions somehow become less than zero, it forces them to be zero
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: i will take a screenshot and see if i can send it throug a note. bit it is 2 error messages i got 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is this a mushclient error, or ... ?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: nope blowtorch 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what does "attept to concatenate upvalue" mean?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I know what concatenate means, but what is an upvalue?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: a value from an outer function
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: i'm not sure why it says the value is nil, it's set to 0 plain as day
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: it doesn't see the value
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: it's out of scope
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: what you want to do is before you enter the outer function declare the value outside of it, in a table best. then all the inner functions can refer to the value.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: local x = 0 then function1(0 print(x)  function2() print(x) end end
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: that's how you manage private data in Lua.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I don't know what any of that means, sorry
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ^xset noexp( (?<arg>off|[0-9]+))?$
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's my regexp
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: Lua allows you to persist private data by the mechanism of referring to it from in inner function so function() local x = 0 inner_functtion() x  = x * 2 end inner_function2() print(x) end end end
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if I give xset noexp an argument, works fine.  If I give it none, the first conditional looks to see if wildcards.arg exists, if not it is supposed to report the noexp TNL.  Instead it just bombs.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: as I said, the variable is out of scope.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: because the <arg> part is technically never occurring, from the regexp's point of view?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: yes, since it is never initialized it doesn't really exist.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: hence nil
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what should I do about that?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: give the variable a default value
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm currently using two separate aliases, one to catch the with-arg case, and the other to catch the no-arg case
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'd like to combine them into a single alias
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: you can put the variable outside and give it a default value, then the upvalue would be valid
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: remeber the entire script  file is used by mush. you can declare the variable anywhere outside the functions you are using.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: put the variable outside?  of ... ?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm not trying to be dense, I just suck at using regexp to plug stuff into variables
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: you are using the variable in a function, delcare the variable outside the function so that it exists within.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: have not been able to solve this problem ever, apparently.  Looking through my aliases, every time I need to deal witn arg/no-arg cases I've had to resort to two aliases
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: rather than right separate code, make one script file so that everyting can relate to everything else.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that doesn't address the space being there though
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's in the plugin xml
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: ah, that's outside my expertise.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: i'm sorry, I know you're trying to help, but I'm afraid you're going over my head here
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: would you be able to do a global variable script, Anaristos? That's how one of my systems is set up on Mudlet, it has a script that's nothing but a list of variables. Pages worth, but because they're defined there, you can just use the variable name to reference it in all subsequent scripts.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: yes, you ara allowed to set gobal variables in mush, global to your script.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: that's correct, merelii
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: oh cool!
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I just don't understand why it's trying to say that the noexp_tnl is nil, when it is set to 0 when the plugin is installed.  The no-arg alias reports it just fine
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I even tried if not wildcards, if wildcards == nil, if wildcards == "" and all of them bomb
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: if you click on the scripts icon and open the dialog you'll see there is a box where you put the path to your script file.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I didn't even reference the 'arg' part, if there is no argument then wildcards should be nil and the conditional should work, but instead it bombs.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: back to two aliases I guess, oh well
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: you have function X( _, _, wildcards)?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's kludgy but at least it works, where combining the two definitely didn't
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: anyway< I am sorry. I am being called away.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: function xset_noexp(name, line, wildcards)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I appreciate the attempt, I'm just not very good at integrating lua and regexp yet
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: ok, then the variable wildcards should contain something.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: sorry if I intrude... I suspect the var wildcards is nil, that's why it blows up
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: but the conditional is if wildcards == nil :p
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: so if wildcards is nil, the first part of the conditional stack should catch it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the dumb thing is that if I try to include the space as part of the arg pattern, it completely jacks everything up
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: I dont understand.... I did the same thing just now, and it works
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: there has got to be a way I can combine these three 'xcp' aliases into one regexp, having three 'xcp' aliases is just sloppy but I don't know what else to do
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what did you do?  I don't understand either
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: I declare and alias ^mset noexp( (?<arg>off|[0-9]+))?$
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: have you tried to use something like https://regex101.com/ to build your regex?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: calling a testStarling function, with the usual 3 args
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that is indeed the regexp I had, but without an arg, it bombs
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: and in there I print(wildcards) and print(wildcards.arg)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: did all that too, still nope
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: without args 'arg' is ""
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'd blame it on screwed up winkle code, but this is all original screwed up starling code, unfortunately
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: I even added print("|" .. wildcards.arg .. "|"), just to be sure
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: xset noexp off -> ok.  xset noexp 0 -> ok.  xset noexp 1000 -> ok.  xset noexp -> bomb
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: copy and paste here you function declaration, please 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: function xset_noexp(name, line, wildcards)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: next line is print(wildcards.arg)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it bombs with error [string "Plugin: WinkleWinkle_Search_Destroy_132"]:199: attempt to concatenate upvalue 'auto_noexp_tnl' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: if wildcard.arg ~= nil then print(wildcard.arg) end
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: which is BS because auto_noexp_tnl isn't nil, it's set to 0 and nothing changes that
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if it's going to bomb it should bomb because i'm trying to print a nil value
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: except it wouldn't bomb in that case, it would just print nil
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: still don't know what an upvalue is.  Up from what?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: you did change the original function ?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: try something like  if wildcards.arg == nil then wildcards.arg = 0 end
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I don't want wildcards.arg to be 0 though, because that will tell the function to turn off auto noexp
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if I comment out everything except print(wildcards.arg) and then do 'xset noexp' with no arg, it doesn't bomb.  The print doesn't display anything (not even nil) so maybe wildcards.arg is "" instead of nil?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: lua is a turd of a language :<
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: hten if it is nil what do you want it to do? 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: I suppose the bombing line is this: auto_noexp_tnl = tonumber(wildcards[1])
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: report the current setting of my noexp tnl, shindo :p
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: then check if it is nil and report on that case
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if noarg, then report values.  if arg is off or 0, turn auto noexp off.  else, turn auto noexp on and set the tnl to arg.  The regexp ensures that only "off" and positive numbers will match it, so no need to worry about people entering letters or invalid input
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: and YES, wildcards.arg = "" 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: not nil... told you before :)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I thought I checked for that though, and it bombed anyway
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if wildcards.arg == "" then print("yes") else print("no") end
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that returns "yes" when I give no arg
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: so clearly that is working
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: yes, but than the function try to convert to a number that (if is not 'off')
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and nil will still bomb it because nil is not ""
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: it should be: if (wildcards.arg="") then printf("Current noexp value is: " .. auto_noexp_tnl) else if (wildcards[1] == "off") or (wildcards[1] == "0") then ...... end
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: it should be: if (wildcards.arg=="")*
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if nothing else, I'm learning a lot by blowing up S&D again and again and again, and I definitely appreciate everyone's help and patience with my spazzy questions :)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: messing with other ppl code is the best way to learn programming
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: and asking is just natural, imho. I appreciate who asks
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ok, well, I don't know what I did, but it's working now?  I swear it looks the same as it did when it was giving error text.  I didn't even get mad and threaten to punch my computer, so it couldn't have decided to work due to fear.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: starling, it happened to me more than once to wonder why my modified code didnt work, to realize I forgot to reload the script, or reloaded the wrong one :)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ah, yes, the days of forgetting to reload scripts.  I remember those :D
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: now if we could just do away with the silly plugin id's and replace them with human-meaningful text instead of hexadecimal mumbo jumbo
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: would changing them break anything?  probably cause any settings stored in state file to get lost?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: so, I've seen in some scripts where they implement functions named similar to string.char, string.gsub, etc.  I.e. they have a dot in the function name.  How do they do that?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: those are built in lua functions
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: string in this case is a class. classes in most object orientated languages are basically containers that contain their own methods, properties etc
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am kind of suprised that lua doesn't make you explicitly require the string class to utilize those functions
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is there a way I can set up a class to contain the functions in each of the plugins?  e.g., snd.xset_noexp(), extgui.draw_window(), ext.goto_number() ?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: sorry... went to take a coffee... those are OO (Object Oriented) languages... you declase a class and properties and methods of the class, and you reference them wuth '.'
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: actually, is there any reason the three plugins couldn't be combined into one?  I don't see why not.  I estimate it would be about as big as the aardmush gmcp mapper, and that runs just fine
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: actually I think in lua you can do that using the lists... I should try, I dont know lua
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: and honestly, instead of bringing the 3 together, I'd split them differently... I mean 'search and destroy' does things that are NON its pertinence, like handle campaigns
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what do you mean?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: admittedly, the more I get into this, the more I think winkle could have been tripping on acid while he was writing it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: sorry... wrong file... mapper externder handles the campaigns... as 'mapper extender' SHOULDN'T do that :)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol, you guys realize that this is freeware that he didn't have to release to the public, right?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: probably because it's easier to make the extender do it, since it contains all the nav functions for it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: mapper extender isn't even a good name, imho.  S&D navigation control is more like it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: obviously... it's not a critique, but since starling asked if he could bring them together I game my 2 cents... professional deformation
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: well... it DOES extend the fiendish mapper functionalities.. a bit
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: what is your favorite mushclient and why
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: My favorite MUSHclient is Abelinc. He's the MUSHIEST!
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: he sure is!
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: my favorite mushclient is always the newest one
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: thought it would be his mom, arc
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: "mush! mush, sled dog, mush!"
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling slinks away
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: he's not on speaking terms with his mom ever since he found out she bought a Windows-based laptop
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that would do it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I wonder which of them had the last word
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: especially since he had already procured an Indy workstation for her, for christmas
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I am not quite up-to-date with mush aard package, but does it have now something like S&D's: xrt <area> (so basically mapper goto to first room of area), xm <part of room name> - that will just list room names matching given string in area, then you can type go <index> (like go 3) and next to move to next room ?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: a lot of S&D's functions are just more handy interface to mapper
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: fiendish a cool feature for your mapper would be to goto next unexplored room
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so I think that could be quite convenient to have those in mapper instead of in S&D
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is "mapper unmapped here"
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: right.. but is there away to select first item without having to click on it?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have room uid: mapper goto <room uid>
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: I know, just make it so mapper explores the whole mud for us
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: no, you have to explore manually, you can't have a script do it for you
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: especially places like 9 hells
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but you can get db from clannie, then just explore by go 1/2/3/4/5
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: well yeah
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's the conundrum, isn't it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: u know how in S&d you can hit nx? Is there something for unexplored rooms
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: i'm not adding anything to automate exploring, sorry
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: with mapper unmapped here, as well as online maps, should be enough to discover most things
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i know.. i use them like crazy
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: cp levelling is a good way to explore and get stuff done at the same time
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: thats what i usually do :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's good to do both since exploring just to fill out mapper db can get a bit dull
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah no doubt
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: it does get boring :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: how strange
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: thats why i'm like.. man i only wanna do this once
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also you have : "areas unexplored" - and it is pretty quick to explore most areas
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Just wander around a bit before you recall to turn in your quest, jeez.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: oh man.. thats a good one 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: didn't know about area unexplored
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I guess dull was the wrong word
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: right.. it sometimes can be tedious i think you meant (sp?)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: exploring takes a lot of time and doesn't directly generate qps, so best to do it in parallel with something else that does
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah i know what ya meant
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah thats what i usually do
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should focus on exploring epic areas, as you cannot explore them solo
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nods
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: especially IF2 (as that epic is run like once per year), Genie and Inferno
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: CPs are also good to get to know new areas
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Depends on your motiviation. If you're exploring just to get your 'rooms explored' rank higher, sure, do the epic areas. If you're exploring to make campaigns easier, epic areas aren't even on the list.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah i'm exploring to make cp easier
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Then forget epic areas even exist.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nods
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: just getting any portal i can find and doing cps
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Add cexits anytime you encounter them
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah doing that as well
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and for in room portals as well
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yep and that :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: just started doing i this mort i've learned alot
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: even one particular portal can help a lot
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also build mob database/mobs locations
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: since some areas are really close to others
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I remember a time when people explored and read room descriptions because they enjoyed visualizing the game world
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i did that when i first started mudding fiendish
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: when new area comes is then I go there and read all descriptions, but that is more goal related than really visualization
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I like the goal stories
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I do that for new areas
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That sort of thing doesn't do well in a hack-n-slash no-rp setting.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still some areas (and their goals) are really nicely done
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think it's sad that there are fun messags hiding all over the game that nobody other than the writer ever knows about unless they tell someone to go look at it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: example?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: wish for wishes :)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is from astral area
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: how specific of an example do you want?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and you can wish also for other thing there
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quepasa Tech: Graffiti?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no, the only secret graffitis I know about are in Mallic's chamber and the void
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no, when you're high enough - get a wish from one of mobs in astral and then go to genie
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and that's not really fair because you can't really access either of them
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is one secret graffiti located in gauntlet priest room (that one that teleports you to gauntlet maze)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quepasa Tech: Does Aard still have the limbo room from ROM?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I wouldn't object if that entire area was nuked from orbit, Trachx
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Quepasa: not for a long time
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quepasa Tech: nod
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, Gauntlet should be more like 201 quest/cp area, not 5-30
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Quepasa: I mean, it's still there, but you don't go there now
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you have scry you can 'c scry 7.puff' and see it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it has one of the two secret graffiti I know
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and I only know the other one because I added it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can also add one in that forgotten room in Times Past
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but anyway I wasn't talking about graffiti
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean, like...to give one example... on Onexia Prime in Vidblain there's one.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I went to Onexia, l cook shows Won in a game of intelligence, a large cookie especially for you is here.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: are you carrying a cookie?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I've realized that after visiting more Onexia rooms :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ehehe
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but at least "nose" is real Onexia keyword (btw I like when keywords are colored in room description)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: very few of the keywords are colored 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The proper term is 'keyword american', you racist pig
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: vidblain is filled with keywords though. so is the area around the devil's hand
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: colorful keyword are mostly in newer areas, that causes explorers to become a bit lazy, but also is good explanation for builder's laziness - some descriptions suggests you can look <every item there>,  but actually most of them are just simple description (so when it is written in color - that is pretty obvious you can expect there is more behind that word and you can just skip all other words)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean skip as you should not expect that is object you can look/examine/do special action
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: highlighting keywords means people don't read any of the other words
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think is what you said
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: people read words?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: kind of, you still read description to get context
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: when I see description (entry room Afterglow): Large trees rise almost as high as the mansion. - then I expect I can "look trees" and "look mansion", but 'l mansion' You don't see that here.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: obviously because it is not "here" but "there"
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ehe
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but Afterglow is actually disaster, next room has: The floor is constructed of large marble tiles.  
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then I do "look marble" , and of course "You don't see that here."
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however I liked that in this area archery was used against players
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's colorized but not a keyword? hehe
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, so it attracts attention, and after few rooms it is just annoying
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wonder if I ever did that
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I find that if Iwonder if I did something,I did
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I usually get that when looking over my old code. "Who wrote this shit? I'd never code something like THAT. Oh wait, this is my code."
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no, the only colorized keywords I ever added have descriptions 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dunpeal snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but almost none have color
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: WHo wrote this piece.. oh wait.. that was me...
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: I write code for micro service based architectures.. but not much mud stuff
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I reached age that I have opposite :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: mainly spring, boot, cloud, data stuff
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nice
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I look at code and think how smart it was, and next time I write something I add comments so I be able to understand that in future :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Interesting, I only code interface stuff for large scale systems. Together we could take over the world. 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: What willwe do tonight, Brain?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I have the opposite realizatoins
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I go back and look at things I know I did and surprise myself with how clever I was
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: like  'look vomit' -> You do realize, of course, that you just tried to examine vomit?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Fiendish, I amcertainly at that point. Things I published before the www are now being cited and referenced. it is wierd.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i wrote some stuff and am embarrassed to show it to my computer-knowing-buddies
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Fiendish, I amcertainly at that point. Things I published before the www are now being cited and referenced. it is wierd.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Interesting, I only code interface stuff for large scale systems. Together we could take over the world. 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems like matrix error :P deja vu
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: it seems like matrix error :P deja vu
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: So did you find the hidden message on Onexia?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: In regards to Mushclient, in the Alias editor what is the purpose of sequence?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if you want to fire multiple aliases on a match
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it denotes the order
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: GabeLogan: lower sequence fires before higher sequence
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: lower is sooner
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: ugh...geez I knew that :)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: You might, for example, want one to fire and then SOMETIMES stop anything else from firing after it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: so that you can have multiple triggers fire of one event in a specific sequence
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I believe you have to tick the continue evaluating checkbox on the first and subsequent aliases if you want it to keep going
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think I mostly use sequence for triggers and not aliases
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: plugins also have a sequence field
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so you can indicate precedence between plugins and the main world set of scripts
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: negative plugin sequence fires before the world, positive fires after
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Awesome info guys!
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think the range is -10000 to 10000 for plugins. for individual aliases and triggers I don't remember
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Are there any known differences in behavior running mush in wine and running it natively?  Sometimes I see my plugin's init code running twice at startup on native mush but I never see that when I'm in wine.  It's probably something silly I did, but I'd like to rule out the obvious before I dig into it.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but it's hard to imagine actually needing that kind of range
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Last question from me for the day I swear! What is the purpose of Send to World? I always choose execute.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: do you have an example of such sequence triggers? 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i can't picture where to use such.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Durel: the only issues I can think of are crashes in the mushclient notepad during certain operations
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Execute will give other plugins/aliases a chance to match it.  World bypasses that all and just sends directly to the MUD.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I use them for some common messages
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like when I get a level/pup
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I may have two different groups of functions (essentially plugins) doing completely different things off of that message
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Ah, that makes sense
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Thanks, that's what I thought but it's good to get confirmation
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so rather than having two independent plugins have to "know" about each other and have one kick off the other, it's easier to have them match in sequence
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I always run in Wine
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Alight, guys you can take the rest of the day off. Go home to your families.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: my experience is that it works just about identically, module bugs in wine
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: modulo
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ah. i see. thanks 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan wiggles his bottom.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Heh, wine always works great for me.  It's only when I test my plugin natively that I see intermittent issues.  :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, when losers like me try to use your plugin :'(
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Wine does have a few funny differences at the system interface level, because the wine developers don't want to make, for instance, a different version of certain shell functions for each version of emulated windows
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and different versions of, for instance, the COPY function might print slightly different messages
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I suspect it's just a timing bug in my code somewhere and running natively in a VM hits things at different times than I normally see them
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and WineHQ will say something like "The COPY function returns a value on success or failure. Don't read the text it prints."
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: can you decipher panel?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's morse. start with -
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: greetings
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: pretty smart message
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: how many people figured out that it was morse ?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no way to know
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: how many people saw that it was there?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no way to know
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably one!
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Vidblain is just too big
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's what she said
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's only 900 rooms
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I know because I edited them all
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's a giant square. It's the easiest area in the game to explore fully.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I remember exploring those big maps just by run 50e, n, run 50w , or something like that
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Heh, just don't do that at a low level
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Xeno put a huge amount of thought and planning into vidblain
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it was meant to be the area that any VI player could navigate 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OTOH: l ruins:   The ruins are in ruin.  Well, what did you expect?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so why bother to search for extra keywords with such approach :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: come on. that was funny
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: pretty smart
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but then you expect there are more keywords
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you want more, go to the Amazonian Battle Frigate
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or the hole in the ground
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or Pirates!
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or two of the corners of the Sea of Glass
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or A Split in the Path
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 50 women cheering 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I see you found the mud wrestling room
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also a silver beard prisoner
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: who, Jeronius?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: he just lives there
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Hashmarks line the walls of the hole, so obviously it is a cell
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: he doesn't have much else to do out there
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's a bit of a wasteland
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: he made a pretty sign to mark his little home
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now, there should be "knock" action in that room
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't think I had the ability to do that 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Tester F13-ND.  Grade: A      
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ah, the old rubber tree
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: I love to rubber tree
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think numbers kill this game
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which numbers
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I disagree, it is a hack and slash game
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: i/m/p, #pups, #qps
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ah, 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: some of us have known for years that tiers are ruining the mud
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: tiers do ruin the mud
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: unfortunately I keep ruining my tiers, which limits my ability to ruin the mud very effectively :(
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Nah, people ruin the mud. I've seen tier 3 people asking questions that make me wonder if they bought their character on ebay.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: They are stealing our jobs!
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is pretty easy get to higher tier without any deeper thoughts :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I did not buy my character on ebay tyvm, I hired a chinese gaming workshop to level it up from 1 fair and square
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I ask those questions all the time that make me look bad and I am a T2.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: No no, I mean the equivalent of "how do i shot web"
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: why is I no good at game?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I T4, but no good
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's not really possible to be not good at aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: this is true
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you either spend your time questing and killing things or you don't
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you spend your time questing and killing things you get stronger and farther
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: maybe you could be not good if you didn't do anything?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you spend your time talking, answering questions, and programming things that aren't bots, then you don't get stronger and farther
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan bursts into tears.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but I help people!
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Running ones mouth is a good way to get stronger, you tend to accumulate a LOT of qp doing it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I know I do
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: wasn't that Visionaire's trick?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan smirks at his own 'wisdom'.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I think programming things that aren't bots can make you stronger
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: like one key campaigner
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I agreeth!
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I only program things that help me do things more efficiently
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: or get better metrics to make better decisions
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: or keep myself organized
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: because if I get good at writing things that aren't bots, I can then write even better things that aren't bots
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I just like programming things to solve problems that bug me.  That's really satisfying :)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I do it for the colors
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and numbers in colors
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I like numbers in colors
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: trachx likes words in colors
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is called synesthesia
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you could get together
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's how I got into it.  That stupid window jumping off the screen, that bug persisted for *years* and nobody bothered to do anything about it :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hot hot hot!
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that's beause usually you accept things that are good enough
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's what I did in regards to auto noexp
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: i aliased tech to curse too
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it should be fun times
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dunpeal snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: What are they now?  My old prompt had a lot of colors and whatnot in it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: bah, chan off :p
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the biggest source of bugs in all code is that the one writing it doesn't usually think of everything that needs to be handled
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I thought it was because of outsourcing to india
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nah
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nobody outsources real work to india. maybe wasteland web stuff
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've never had a job where I was worried that my company was going to replace me with cheaper labor on the other side of the planet
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: same fiend
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: but that's because you're a lumberjack and they can't outsource trees
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Well, that's when you move to the other side of the planet. *shifty*
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah well
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I also try to have as few working years as possible
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: fiendish what do ya do man?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Dunpeal: mostly what I do is quit my job after 2 years and then travel for 2 years
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: hmm thats pretty cool
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: so you're a gypsy
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: my dream job would be trading options for a living
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's racist
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Professional quit-traveler.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: A nomad?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: no, it is not
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: but not sure if that could ever happen
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: When I was a child my dream job was to be a professional mattress tester.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: when i was a child, i had no dreams about any jobs
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and I have on dreams
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I now do the next best thing which is algorithmic R&D, frequently for robotics
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: with "now" meaning about 2 years ago
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: And you travel a lot? Are you sure you're not Miles Bennett Dyson, trying to avoid Sarah Connor?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which is why it's about time to look for a job again
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I will interview you and perhaps offer you an internship
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i've been thinking the same thing
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: past few months I've been occupied writing some painful code for Software Heriage
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Heritage
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://forge.softwareheritage.org/D256
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: what job this Pleiades could possibly have for you?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Pleiades: can I do it from philly?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: once "be yourself" is the job description, would you take it? minimum wage
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: be myself for minimum wage? sure. I do that already for free
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: might as well get paid for it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: and then they will have a meeting asking you to "be more"
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: Sorry! It is me again....how doI check my currect version again??
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Bananasinpajamas
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: checkversion
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BriarRose Tech: Thank You F
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: is anyone here using comcast for voice and data and if so, what modem do you have
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: With comcast, you'd probably do better with smoke signals than an actual modem
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: or pigeons
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Comcast was always good to me. :p
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You're lucky - I couldn't wait to move back into a Cox region.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Their customer service is severely lacking, but the service itself was good enough for me, plus uncapped data meant I could download a terabyte of data without worry.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Then again, they were on my bad side when I got it installed because they dug up a yard without my permission and ruined the grass there, so they could have been giving me a break.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: "a yard" not "my yard"?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Well, I guess you could say it was my yard. :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Because of the milkshakes?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Place was huge, had to use about 700 feet of hose just to water the entire lawn on one side, in sections.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The more you talk about your lawn, the more you sound like some old guy who stands on the porch glaring at kids who might cut across a portion of it..
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Ha, that'd be the guy who owned the property. I was there to keep it safe.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Look up 2397 N 10th Ave, Hanford, CA on Google Maps, satellite on. That was my place 5 years ago.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: were you employed as an overseer there?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: He's the caretaker. He's ALWAYS been the caretaker.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: I've just started the new version of MUSHclient, 5.06.  I have no completed maps.  How do I import all my maps from version 4.96?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Did you install over your old directory?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: No, I installed the new version in a new directory.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Copy over *.db and Aardwolf.mcl (with Mushclient closed)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: Ok, I copied over .db files.  Now my map window is stuck on "The Dark Continent, Abend" and it won't change regardless of where I run.  Any hints?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: Okay, so I just restarted MUSHclient, and now the mapper just says it's version 2.5 by Fiendish, and it doesn't respond at all.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Frankly, I'd just copy a backup of your old mushclient install, then runt he installer over that
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: thats what i usually do it works fine
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: but don't forget the back up :P
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: I'll give that a try.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is it possible to incorporate lua functions/script commands in cexits?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: The only script capable of being put into cexits is wait(). I think you'd have to add other scripts to the plugin itself if you wanted to do that.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: In any case, you'd have to modify the mapper plugin to allow for that functionality.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: gee, i've never modified the mapper plugin before ;)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I use lua code in cexits.  The cexit just needs to call an alias and then the alias dives down into your lua code.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It's a little indirect, but it does work
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Well, roundabout ways, sure.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: interesting, I'll look into that for sure.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yep, no argument there :)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: But directly, you couldn't do function();go here, as far as I know.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's correct
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You only get one shot at an alias from a cexit though.  It's different than "mapper portal ..."
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: with the portal code you could use multiple aliases and they would be expanded and run
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: but with cexits it will only recognize one alias even if you string several together with semi-colons
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Makes me wonder if that alias has to be first, then.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: yes, it must be first
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: programatically speaking, a cexit and a portal are the same.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Thought so.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Scriptually, they aren't.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: well, if your portal/cexit is represented by an alias, the mapper (cmud/mush) won't know the difference
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Except the way cexits are executed, it will only fire an alias if it's listed first.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: in the speedwalk, the alias for the cexit/portal is inserted, isn't that the case?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's correct.  I found that out because I wanted a cexit that did something like: getItemFromBag; doSomething; putItemAway
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: A cexit has to always go to the same destination, is there a reason to have a cexit with a function call in it?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It wouldn't recognize any alias other than the first one
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: maybe that's  a quirk in the mush mapper, cmud you can do anything you want in the alias.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Oh, yes, I was referring to a mush client-side alias
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: I'eve put a #NOOP to get around the labyrinth entry procedure and it worked.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: I imagine that in mush you would just put an alias with a return statement in it.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: anyway, I know very little about the mush mapper.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: An concrete example of why you might want to do this might help :)  At Giant's Pet Store, you can get an employee ID card that is necessary to access certain rooms.  It isn't a key though and it is saveable so once you get one you don't need to do the work to get another one (which involves killing a mob so it can't be scripted.)  A cexit might pull out the employee card at an appropriate time and then put it away when you are done.  I don't like hardcoding object IDs in a cexit because that's a massive pain if you ever lose the item so I do it programatically.  That's why this came up :) 
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Will it go on your keyring?
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Hence the use of an expanded alias --> lua in a cexit
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: No, it won't go on the keyring because it isn't a key
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: There is a similar item (a pass) in Kobolos (sp?) too if I remember correctly
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Doing the goal in both cases alleviates that need. *shifty*
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Where's the fun in that? :P  You could spend a few days solving it via code! :)
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Hmm, will need to look at why xrunto darklight always glitches out and lands at the wrong spot.
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: it
T3/r7/2017-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: it's afraid of the darkness?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what does "unmerge continent bigmap from GMCP mapper" do?  I'm curious but afraid to try it.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Back up your aardmush directory and try it
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how are the installers for the latest aardmush snapshot?  Supposedly they are better than before?  But if installing 'on top' of one's current mush setup, if that version is 4.98 and the installer wants to install 5.06, could that be a problem?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Back up your mush folder and try it. Seriously, backing up is as simple as copy -> paste
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I know :p
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling fluffles Birdbrain Metria's fur mercilessly.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Non-Sense Anaristos gives Birdbrain Metria the cold shoulder as he abandons Aardwolf for that graphic junk they call WoW!
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Non-Sense Anaristos waves goodbye to Birdbrain Metria.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how do I restart firefox without losing tabs?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: i wish they would just fix this stupid 'slow down and die' crap that Firefox has been doing for *years*
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: there should be a bookmark setting that says save al tabs to bookmark or something like that
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: use the edge browser
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: eh, just want to hit restart and have them up
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You wonder why Non-Sense Anaristos slammed A Nimwit Pleiades's head with a mallet.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: that's a microsoft product!
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: edge is the worst
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: can't do starling, if you restart it means the browser shuts down first.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm not even doing anything, a few youtube windows (these are apparently the cause of the slowdown) and yes I have 87 tabs up but I run noscript, ghostery, and I have 16gb ram on this computer so why should this silly browser fall over and die like this? :P
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: save the tabs to bookmark, it puts it in a new folder then restore the tabs when you come back.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: an excellent idea, assuming Firefox were still responding.  Eh, well.  It kind of is.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is Edge actually good?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I figured it'd be the new IE.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: it's ok
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: some stuff doesnt work in edge, so it opens an IE window
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: too much advertising
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: starling: in FF options, on the "what to do hwen FF starts", restore tabs from last session is an option
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: thanks, Abe!
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that will make the default behavior what you want, rather than specifically saving bookmarks
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I assume abelinc uses firefox
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: oddly, I don't run adblock.  I do run ublock origin and it seems to work.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: or lync?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: well, I don't use firefox, i was guessing from what I know of google :)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: abelinc wrote his own browser on a 128 bit SunOS employing 4096 parallel CPU's.  I have proof.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: I stopped using firefox when it kept changing my search engine.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I really think he uses lync
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: links > lync
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: eh, that was probably the pr0n sites changing your search page ;)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: no, firefox wanted the search engines in a specific order.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: tehre was a big blowback about 4 or 5 years ago, everyone was complaininga about something, so I never load the browser anymore.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: I am not crazy about google either :)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: might start using opera again.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: is anaristos abelinc?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: take that back!
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Non-Sense Anaristos smiles at you. 
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on Windows computers, I have Chrome, FF and MSIE all installed, but do most of my browsing in Chrome...I have 2 versions of it...v44 and current
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: seriously, if I were anaristos i'd freeze someone for asking such a question ;)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: come look at the sparc 1000 in my basement
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: ditto
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: v44 is just before the forced the turn off of npapi
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: I also use the Tor browser :)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it'll still work with those plugins (like java)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: or is abelinc anaristos
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, yeah I've got that too
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tor is just FF, btw
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: you had to ruin it for me :)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rather, it's built on FF
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: oh, I can live with that :)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: so you are saying it's written in java.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use the portable version of tor...it won't actually open if FF is open first, although I can open FF afterwards
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, actually it looks like they fixed that...it's letting me open it with FF open now
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: firefox actually started to be a good browser with all those plugins you could add, then oracle got in the picture somewhere.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it used to just complain that FF was already running
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: maybe it thouht ff was a security breech :)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: you are a security breach
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Non-Sense Anaristos slaps A Nimwit Pleiades.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, it's just because it's the FF browser plus tor add-ons
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tor 7.0.7 release notes...Update Firefox to 52.4.1esr
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: looking for the option you mentioned abe, and I don't see it
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: oh, I was going to check the ff version I had. I have no version :)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: tools > options, right?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup...then "when firefox starts" drop-down
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the 3 options should be "show blank page", "show home page", and "show your windows and tabs from last time"
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: hm, it's greyed out
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's annoying
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: I told you to save the bookmarks :)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc giggles at Non-Sense Anaristos.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: heh :)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Non-Sense Anaristos SMACKS A Nimwit Pleiades upside the head, wonder what he did.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: mis :)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: Abelinc, do you have your own irc channel?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I never got really heavy into irc, just used it to get support for some more obscure stuff
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: like weird japanese roping techniques?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, sure?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I dont know!
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I dont do anything that's NSFW
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mean you don't do anything that's SFW :P
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: oh no
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's safe for you to fap in your cubicle :P
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I would ot do that
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I dont have a cubicle
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: he works off the broom closet.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I sit in the parking lot
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I believe you have my stapler
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I sit in the parking lot
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I am not allowed in the building
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: anyone playing on a galaxy s8+? Having issues with the onscreen buttons randomly changing positions
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: as long as they don't randomly catch fire
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (those two statements are not related to each other)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan burps loudly.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: does anyone here have a phone with Bixby? I just updated it and now it's randomly adjusting brightness for no reason. Super slowly too. I can swipe down the notification bar and see it moving a tick every two seconds. It's Bixby is a butlers soul screaming, "FREE ME..."
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You probably have autobrightness set.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I do. But it will go from my brightness setting to supermax brightnesz
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: basically the outdoor setting you typically have to set yourself.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: That's odd.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: then it will decrease to minimum slowly
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Anyone here know how to expose matlab functions into programs?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades prods you into action!
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Abe, you know how to expose matlab functions into programs?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: What's a good brand for gaming laptops? The best bang for the buck
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you want best bang for your buck, you don't want a laptop for gaming
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Shotguns give the best bang for a buck.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I want it to be laptops
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Err laptop
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo snickers with Acidrayne Arcidayne about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: My wife's got a Dell which works fine for what games she plays. (Mainly Guild Wars 2)
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: How much did she pay for that
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: She says "Um.. Almost $700"
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Whoa really
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: You know the specs?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Not a clue. It'd all be different now anyway, she got that almost a year ago so that model's probably not even available anymore.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Probably an Inspiron
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i randomly bought a thing called 4560. later i read it was the bbb
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You wanna look for something with a discrete graphics card, no Intel onboard graphics. Lots of RAM. If you can get it, get a SSD and HD in the same machine.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Yeah those are my main targets
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Some laptops come with 16gb ram, gtx 950-1070
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah I wouldn't get less than 16
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Whoa Celebrity
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: That IS the bbb
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Not ssd tho
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: -j 10
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo turns out to be a lemming and 8fails himself. Loser.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: bftb
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: What do you play on it
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: you know. its so hard to think and type the same time while drinking
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: borderlands
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: No issues?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: bl2 is so old. no issues. all max
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You could run borderlands on a toaster these days
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Ever tried some aaa games?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: ... Ok, what's aaa? I'm guessing one of those a's is "anal" but I can't figure it out
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: fifa 17 runs smoothly at 1080
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: You know those smaller batteries
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Oh riiiight
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: It's not those
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: can i ask about non-aardwolf related but script/technology related things in here?
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Anything tech is fair game - just ask though is usually bettert.
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: cool! i need something like a tracker for my non-aardwolf guild. we have a guild raid every weekend and i will ends up having a list of points scored by every guild member, i want to have a tracker to gauge the activeness of every member weekly
T3/r7/2017-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: i do have a Microsoft Excel to do that, but just thinking if there's anything more useful that you guys have :P
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: can colourcodes look like  0x800 ? I know it's not RGB. WindowRectOp (win, 5, 30, 30, 70, 70, 5, 15 + 0x800)
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: 0x0800 - Fill in the middle
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: is there a way to ident mob keywords?
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: try id and look at tbe top
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: oh idk
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: type con all
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: trial and error mostly and then you have to remember what might have worked. for example in wooble anything with sea doesn't have sea in hte key work, so sea snakes are just snakes
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Enei is agreeing with that Sheriff Shindo person again...
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: hi, i have win 10, using r1900 and trying to install r1940 ad I get a message saying error opening diva.fon for writing, any idesa?
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it might be locked by something
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: did you try a restart and just immediately starting/updating mush?
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: okay will try that
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sometimes that's the only trick for windows :/
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: worked thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Okay can I get some mapper help? I accidentally renamed my aardwolf.db file the other day, and ended up with an Aardwolf.db, and the one I renamed. After deleting the Aardwolf.db and reverting the rename, I have all kinds of issues with running to areas, and mapping clan exits. Any advice?
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: there is a restore from backup option but you will need to catch fiendish for help with that
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Are backups automatic?
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i can't remember
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Uh oh.
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but what do you mean by "issues"
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyrox Tech: Mapper can't find certain rooms when I try to "Mapper goto (number)"
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: backups ARE automatic...when you are moving and renaming files, make sure that MUSHclient is NOT open...database files don't like being mucked with when they're open in a program...
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to restore from backups, just go into the backups folder, copy/move the backup file you want into the root of the MUSHclient folder, and rename it to aardwolf.db (more specifically, rename it to <worldname>.db)
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neklude Tech: is there any ability to change ctrl to alt with keypad in MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: neklude: check out http://abelinc.me/macros...you want the section on Accelerators, as those allow you to use any available key combination...HOWEVER, note that alt+0-9 are already in use for bringing up the various parts of MUSHclient configuration
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that being said, I just tested and it appears that the keypad numbers do not activate those menu options, so you should be able to use it in an accelerator
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: My poor dad.
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Got one of those, "Answer these questions to win a $100 gift card to the store of your choice!" things on his phone. Like a fool, he filled it out, and started answering survey questions.
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ard Tiarna Grimvald begins to shake his head and tsk into nothingness.
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: And did it again. And again. Now he's getting spam email and phone calls saying, "I heard you like us, want to try this? Answer these questions and sell us your soul!"
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: any porn links? lol
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Nope, all pharmaceutics, or tools.
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: let that be a lesson to everyone. Don't. Click. That. Link.
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I've had the conversation over and over with my Dad too.  The reponse is always "But it says it's from [some company] and that company is trustworthy!"
T3/r7/2017-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne grins evilly at Durel.
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: any blowtorch users here now please?
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ziv Tech: who is building the tintin++ client?
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Looking at this. Any thoughts, anyone? https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIADEU6EH9151&ignorebbr=1
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: For me? You shouldn't have.
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: (I'll take 3)
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spookiest Raded Tech: it's the Canadian website so you should close the window
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo slaps Spookiest Raded.
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I'm looking for a gaming laptop, but I'm not rich, so looking for an affordable one
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Excited to mud on it!
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Any thoughts on that one?
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: What do you plan to use it for? besides aard
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Programming/gaming
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: spec wise it'll probably do most of what you want. However, the latest gen intels are coming out right now.
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: so you may be best of waiting a bit
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: What does that mean? If they're spanking new, I won't be able to afford them
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Does that mean that these 7700's prices will go down?
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: Probably not. Gamging laptop rarely drop off in price anymore before they're EOL.
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: if they do its like 10% at best
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: So if I have no plan on buying the new ones coming out, this is a good buy?
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: it will certainly work, that's for sure.
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Not too sure if the price for these specs are a catch
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spookiest Raded Tech: probably be a good space heater too
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: Its pretty much on par. You might find something similar for a hundred or two less if you want to put alot of leg work into it
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: This is probably it
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spookiest Raded Tech: what is that big thing on the right side of the first picture?
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: A cooling pad, I think
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: I plan on grabbing this as soon as it hits the market https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/NH.Q2YAA.004
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: Intels latest Gen CPU, however it's not an HQ so it won't be that powerful but it'll also do alot better on battery life. It's kinda of a weird blend between gamging and a sensible laptop.
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: It's not out yet?
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: that model? No. Intels released their latest gen CPU to manufacturers a while ago but there's almost nothing on the market with them yet. Infact I think there is literally 1 or 2 models at the moment.
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Then why do they have it showcased on their website
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: I guess to just drum up interest. They should also be available in about 2 weeks.
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's a nice laptop, maybe I'll go for that this christmas
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Which one
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the acer
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaz Tech: when would output get stacked aside a prompt like " [Fighting: 298/307hp 142/294mn 638/638mv 775tnl Enemy: 63% ]> Your lashing INCINERATES a cobia! [53"
T3/r7/2017-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maaz Tech: would it be because the standard begining prompt does not have %c on the end of it?
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: in mushcleint how do you get the ticktimer in the bottom left screen corner to come on?
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: afaik it should always be on
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: new install of mushcleint from the fiendish site and it isn't so i either magically turned it off or something
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: i lost it on my laptop mush client, same problem
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: oh hell, I'd really like to be able to put a movement cost on a cexit.
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Is there a plugin that tracks how much xp/qp you gain in a day? I know you can create a group every time you log in to see the total xp/kills, but I mean one that does this for each real life day - as in midnight to midnight.
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: you can get a plugin that does
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Do you know from where?
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: sharptracker prolly does
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: its very simple to cook such thing using only a few triggers and variable
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Simple? Maybe if you understand scripting, but I'm a beginner with it. I was proud when I could make my own eq set commands, I have no clue how to make a window that displays the counters I want, heh.
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: not much scripting. just make the variables you need, see what triggers would you need to change your variables. this kind of thing would help you a lot with all kinds of stuff. 
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: its a bit tricky to get the variables to work. but i promise, it's not hard at all.
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Something in my Aard client is freezing in Wine, so I got a brand new download. Aside from copying the aardwolf.db file into the new location, what should be done to get back to normal?
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: aardwolf.mcl has all your aliases and triggers and settings, probably want that
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Larcenist Tech: Thanks! Some plugins weren't working.
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: can i ask a questoin about an xboxk game on here? it is a technical question...
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: you can fiddle with the .mcl directly to turn plugins on or off
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heliar Tech: remember that the command should be wine mushclient.exe /wine
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: is there a plugin or setting to have mush clear its input bar?  (mainly after window switching or after inactivity)? 
T3/r7/2017-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: OK Google, scare me!  loads of laughs
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: Anyone here use tt++ with tmux?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: my god, firefox used to be so good, but now it's just slow, laggy, and dies as soon as you watch anything on youtube
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: For heaven's sake, I have 16gb ram on this computer, what the hell is wrong with the stupid program?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what a damned shame, seriously
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: get your fricking crap together, mozilla :/
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: god, I had to reboot the whole bloody computer to make Firefail work again
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling grumbles and growls. You wonder what's wrong...
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: Sorry to hear that. I'll make sure it never happens again :)
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oyxl Tech: question guys, if I have an alias in a plugin that used to work fine and suddenly doesn't anymore and it's not related to the script it refers to... what to do?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: how do i turn off the exchpo oif every command i input?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: client or server side?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khelthina Tech: guys
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khelthina Tech: i need help
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bodhi perks up, something must have grabbed his attention.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: With what?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khelthina Tech: im using mudrammer client on ios. can you teach me how to use this
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: What do you want to achieve?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khelthina Tech: i dont know how to use lua or java script. i prefer simple controls on blowtorch on android apk. can tou teach me ?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: What exactly do you want to do with it?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: what is the command to reset your windows?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: resetaard?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: hi hi. i am using blowtorch. how do i achor a trigger to the beginning of a line please? 
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bodhi Tech: Step 1: uninstall Blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bodhi grins evilly.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: wtf even is blowtorch?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: I knew you would be so kind to replace my phone with a computer. thank you Bodhi lol
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bodhi Tech: I know phones can use it, but not sure if it's strictly for phones.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: it was. its not something that is
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bodhi Tech: I've never used Blowtorch, so I don't know how to set up triggers for it.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Probably the same way you anchor triggers everywhere else, with an ^.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: But if you have a computer, you're usually better off just using remote control to access your computer on the road.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: i know how to set the trigger Bodhi. but i need it only to trigger when it needs to. not when i use the words in a conversation 
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: use a more specific trigger line?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: thank you Arcidayne. will try that one
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Or try like I said. Or don't. Not my problem, just a suggestion.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne grins evilly.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: thanks a million Arcidayne. now there is no more spam 
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Atomic!!!  Bodhi cheers her on.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: need a bigger keyboard while drunk
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bodhi Tech: fat fingers
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: anybody able to tell me how to get a string in excel for this formula ?    =(SUM(B10:B28))+"/"+9-((SUM(B10:B28)))      should display 5/4  for example
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Norton is online!
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: shhhhh. don't scare everybody ;)
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Could you just not use formating to get the 5/4
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i dont know how to create the SUM(B10:B28) to create a string    then concat /    then concat 9 minus the original sum
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Category and Fractions show fractions.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: ok. i'll investigate that
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i would suggest put first value in one field, and the 2nd value in another field, then put the concatenated in the field you want?
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think Google Sheets does it too.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: and make the color of the 1st 2 fields so that they do not appear.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: =(SUM(B10:B28))&"/"&(9-((SUM(B10:B28))))
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: ah! & not +
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: the '+' is to sum numbers, to concatenate string use '&'
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have to make a group of inter-working spreadsheet for data analysis using Google Sheets. That is going to be fun.
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: perfect
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i knew somebody would know. thanks a bunch
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: my pleasure
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That Kit Carson fellow is smarter than Abelinc!
T3/r7/2017-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: well, headphone jack on my laptop is bad, time to get a new computer
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saemson Tech: ERROR 37
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: 2 questioms... ! i cant download on this computer. and i cant go to any gaming sites...and many social sites are blocked (strangely i can use spotify but not pandora) is there a good "streaming" client i can use. the one i found is very basic thnx and 2. i cant have a smart phone. any one know of a good "dumb phone" with no camera i can get (and where) maybe one where i can mud
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: How do you get triggers to work in Mushclient? I have this text in the trigger field: "Linanthria tells you 'As a reward, I am giving you * quest points and * gold.", yet it doesn't trigger on the quest reward message. It's enabled, too.
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: edit the trigger and press the button to convert it to a regular expression, works fine on my client
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: It's weird, because if I change the wildcards to numbers, it matches. It's like it doesn't read * as a wildcard?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: no star cards for you! 
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Make sure the regex button isnt still checked if not using regex and vice versa
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: if it still doesn't work, press copy button and paste into pastebin and give us the link.
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: saudia arabia just granted a female robot citizenship.... ooohhhhhhh awesome
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: well add that to the list of things that I never thought I'd hear.
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: right!!
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Do female humans have citizenship? I know they recently were allowed to drive!
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Merelii,  "Son, I am proud of you." Add to the list of things you thought you'd never hear =]
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: um not to much i think.. it was shown with out headgear females have to wear....
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: if I have a tablename in Lua named hello = {}, should I be able to essentially copy it to a name table by doing newTable = hello ?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i am doing that but I get an error when looping through it: bad argument #1 to 'ipairs' (table expected, got nil)
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You can use newTable = hello if hello is defined.  You can't loop through an empty table though -- there's nothing to loop through.  What are you sending to ipairs?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Also, keep in mind that if you do newTable = hello that newTable and hello will both point to the same underlying data.  Updating one table will also update the other one too.  It isn't a copy.
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i am keeping a previous and a current table. sometimes copying the current to previous. I do have a statement that says if current == nil then curent = {} end, then i do some ipair loops
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: but thank you. what you said helped. I had to first define the name as a table and couldn't just define it at the same time as making it equal a table
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: 0h
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: does abelinc fix keyboards?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Perhaps
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: math teaches dont spits
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: spit*
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: the keycap for the letter "t" on my Macbook Air is loose
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: needs a spit
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: hello!
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: I was told it will help me complete campaigns quicker. I have downloaded the package but no instructions on how to install.ny pointers or resources where can I find that info?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: Search and destrot plugin 
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: shift+ctr+p to bring up the plugin dialog
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: if i recall correctly, once installed, the commands to bring up the help files are: ww help and extender help
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I am assuming you are using MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: I think he needs to know how to install the plugin
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: yes!
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yes, ctrl+shift+k
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: eek, no that will disconnect you. ctrl+shift+p
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ard Tiarna Grimvald Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Venkav ) thanks was about to hit that 
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: I selected the first fiel I will go ahead and enable all xmls.
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: you need to start with the "add" button
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: I see one window for Search and destroy GUI, I think that's it. Correct?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I think there are three. do you see (3) files that start with winklewinkle?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: you have to install each of the 3 files
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: in upper left corner clk on file/plugins/add
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: the gui is the only optional one. it adds a mini window, which you can hide, i think. but i dont use the plugins
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: I tried a quest now. it says mapper goto a number, and the message I get is you can't do that
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: and then add each of teh winkle files just like you add an aatchment to an email
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: try seeing mapper help
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: do you have the extender and searchanddestroy xmls installed?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: yes all 3 installed
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: and of course you have to explore the areas first before you can use fun things like s & d
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: ah :)
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: how do I get the mapper window up?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: for some reason after installing S&D cp check is not listing my mobs
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: any idea why?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: do I have to reconnect?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: let me try that
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chich Tech: did you try cp i?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: I am lost, not what did I do wrong
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyone here using a screen reader?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Yep. What's up?
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I just want to make sure that my website is accessible. Since I updated it, I've somehow lost the ability to run NVDA in Wine
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: er, not nvda
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sapi
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Checking now!
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it should have a section called "important details" describing two download links, and then of course two download links
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: The site is all good. I can see all of that stuff. :)
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Any time!
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: somhow i changed my typing bar to bould how do i change it back
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Game->Configure->Commands->Change Font
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: was looking in there and it wasnt on bold
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: it changed to size 9 not 8
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know what to tell you. That's where you control the input font.
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: nono that was great it got me to look at all that again
T3/r7/2017-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: just figured out that it was size 9 font not 8
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: is there a plugin for tick timer?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: I am sorry is that the name of the plug in?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: you mean a timer htat counts down every 30 seconds?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: why does alias on mushclient doesn't recognize mapper cexit function?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: send to execute ?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: you have to change also change it from World to Execute.  Then in the Send section do Execute("mapper goto 19288")
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: well, I use Send To Script then Execute("mapper goto 19288")
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: actually I want to write mapper cexit open s
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: That is an interesting cexit but you would have better adding a direction after openning the door. Execute("mapper cexit open s;run s")
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: yeah it didn't take "s" instrcution because of 
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: yeah it didn't take "s" instrcution because of "
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: I used Execute("mapper cexit open s
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: but it keeps saying unrecognized command
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: when you do "send to execute" then you just type as you were typing
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: It would, there's a random quote in it and shouldn't be. That isn't going to work. Send this to execute. mapper cexit open s;s
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so just set "send to execute", then an alias body to mapper cexit open e;e
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or maybe need double ;; in that alias
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: I think I am missing a key here
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: what do you mean set send to execute
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: I have double semis in mine.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: I was just setting an alias
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean mud-side alias? then it won't work as mapper is client-side part
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you mean client-side alias (ie Game --> Configure --> Aliases) then below alias body you have "Send to" combo-box
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: I am setting a mushclient alias
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and you need set that combo-box to "Execute"
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: to map a cexit with multiple steps commands in it put ; at the start of the line with cexit OR use ;; between commands in the cexit creation
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: bingo
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: I think that was it
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: I was missing the execute option in the combo box
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: thanks !!
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: something like https://imgur.com/a/B4sps   or  https://imgur.com/a/3W8lk
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: anybody have a 3d printer?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling peers around herself intently.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is it possible to tell mushclient to not store commands in history if they are too short, as cmud can do?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: e.g. don't store two-character or shorter commands in history
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I could have sworn I saw a setting for it in mush but can't remember where it (supposedly) was
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I've noticed that high disk i/o slows down aardmush, or at least, the mapper
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how to speed it up?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: S&D for vi players has been on my mind
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: From the poll I understand that the tick-timer plugin is missing from newer versions of mushclient? And is that the one that's showing 'time to tick: xx' in the status bar?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: people do a new install instead of installing on top of their previous install and find that it has gone missing
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: Fiendish: is there any context to the vote? (considering the 3rd option). I mean is it just a 'useful/junk' pool, or did it (the plugin) raise some issues in the client?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no context. just express your sentiment.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: done :)
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Is there a plugin available for Mushclient that does something like this: http://endavis.github.io/bastproxy/plugins/aardwolf/statmn.html (I just mean the counting of XP/QP/TP/Gold, and presenting it nicely like here?) 
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is Sharptracker I think. I just do not have a link.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: a plugin that shows _only_ those things?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: I tried installing that, but all it did was mess up the lower section of my client by putting a bunch of random symbols where my quest/cp ticker usually is. I don't think that's how it's supposed to work?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this is why I hate the status bar
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Fiendish - doesn't matter if it shows other useful info as well, but I'm specifically after the counters.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it seems like it makes sense until multiple things try to use it
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: I want to make myself a spreadsheet so that I can see how much XP/QP/TP/Gold I make each day, but then of course I need a way to know how much I have of each - and a way to reset it daily. (Can be with a manual command, doesn't have to be automatic).
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: bast's statmonitor plugin is in his plugin package
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the documentation for it is here https://web.archive.org/web/20151219113048/https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/StatMonitor
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Thanks, Fiendish! I think this is going to do the trick. Perfect!
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Any idea why statmn just says No Data, instead of counting things?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no idea
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: quit and log back in?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Hi guys! For some reason, I am experiencing lag when I use the Aard client+S&D. I am experiencing no lag with anything else on my network. If I log onto Aard with just a pure version of Mush, I don't experience the lag. It happens most often when I use xrt, and also when I am in battle (not normal battle lag). Does anyone have any ideas? I can't pinpoint anything different that I did/installed, but this has been going on for a few weeks.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Don't use S&D
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda is agreeing with that Oak Tender Arnica person again...
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: does it happen with the aard client without s&d?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: "Don't use S&D" says every person who uses S&D.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Not actually sure about that, let me test.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't use it. Can I say it?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think a click interface to lasertag would be cool
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: well, I'm using it and think it's very nicely done. I'm not into the 'click&kill' business, too hung up on the keyboard, but I like hunt trick automation, quick where, autohunt, xrt to area (some of the features mentioned are actually the xmapper plugin, but whatever).
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MeadowMare Kya nods at Libel Liber.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I usually note slowness when there is disk i/o due to some other program hogging it up
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: and yes, sometimes the client does freeze up for a while, but that passes quickly
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Kya: lag without s&d in aard client?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (not sure how much work is involved in testing this)
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Still present. Most of the time it's fine, but about 1/5 of the commands that I send are lagged by approximately 0.5-0.75 seconds.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm not sure why S&D would cause 'lag' (what kind of lag?  can you describe it?) other than perhaps running mapper searches and building speedwalks back to back, but a lot of the plugins are still goofy winkle code and have not yet been replaced by non-goofy starling code.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Yeah, it wasn't S&D, the only reason I mentioned it was because it is something I have extra to the default Aard client install.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: althoug tbh given what S&D does, I doubt if a couple seconds of lag will ruin the experience, anyway
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Bast's plugins can slow things down a bit too, I think.  Or so I've heard.  I haven't actually gotten around to trying them, and I probably should
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Kya: there's a long delay? You said you use a screen reader, is it reading slowly or normal speed just after a pause?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: also, vi opinions/suggestions welcome too
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: Normally, Fiendish. Woops, I completely forgot I even had Bast's plugins, I just removed them to see if it helps. The lag is indeed fairly minimal, I just don't like it if it's avoidable as I enjoyed the lagless experience much more. :P
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: S&D definitely interacts with the mapper db directly in some ways though, it doesn't only go via the GMCP mapper
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: given some of the winkle lua i've had to deal with, it would surprise me a lot if his sql were any different :P
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so, like, the amount of delay that you're describing is pretty extreme. If you have time later I'd like to do some experiments to see if we can pin down the cause. I don't have enough time right now though
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: take over his bot, enhance his bot, make a name for yourself on the back of his work, then criticize his code, classy.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: how do I enable portal with S&D xrt?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you dont. You enable it in mapper
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: one day my legacy is going to be "man, Fiendish took 10 years just to add tabs to the communication log. what an idiot."
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: type mapper help
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: or mapper help portals
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: well hats off to you making your code open source, you obviously have a much higher tolerance for petty bs than I do.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venkav Tech: thanks reading it now
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: (which is why I never will)
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: my trick is making the code complicated enough that nobody understands it enough to criticize
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: I never figured it out so just use a portal set up with an alias or go home and rt next area
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: insult my code.. just don't insult me
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: I havent yet seen the guide for dummies and grandma's
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "Man, look at all those chained functions together on one line. I bet that's not in any way a bad idea."
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mique is patiently waiting
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: bah its fine.. its "fluent"
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: I pulled out all of Bast's plugins, and it's still there. I know your stuff is solid though Fiendish, so I have no clue what it could be. Really it's only headbangingly frustrating in global quests. I guess somehow it could be my computer hanging up somewhere...It is kinda old.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Mique: Hosch's guide is the best
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: go to the portal destination room and type something like this (while in the destination room): mapper portal hold theportalyowanttoadd;;enter
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: you can also add commands for getting the portal out of a bag, if that's how you keep them
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: the command after 'mapper add' has to wear the portal and use it to get exactly to the room you are in when typing it
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: hosch not work, error 404 Die angegebene Seite konnte nicht gefunden werden.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Mique: bummer. one sec
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i set up aliases for each of my portals as i collect them, then use those aliases to set the mapper portals
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeadowMare Kya Tech: I used the following before I got protal wear location: mapper portal get portalID bagID;wear portalID;enter;rem portalID;put portalID bagID;wear all. Sometimes it will mess up if your inventory somehow goes amiss due to a disarm or something that you didn't notice, but it did the trick most of the time and allowed for me to just re-wield whatever weapon I had at the time.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it's been gone for a few months
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: rip hosch I guess. https://web.archive.org/web/20150819093750/http://www.holgerschurig.de/games/aardmapper.html
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: and setting up portals with mapper I kept doing something wrong so it interfered with getting to my mob so removed theem all and just use alias for portals
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: this looks interesting.... https://mushclient.com/forum/?id=12926 for mapper explanations
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: Horsch's guide is awol
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: read the whole thread though. there are a few errors that I had to correct in it
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Mique: I posted a link to an archive.org backup of hosch's guide
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: thank goodness for preservationists
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Anyone know how to resolve bluetooth connectivity issues with Windows 10?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: turn it off and then on again?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Done
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: bummer
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: how to recycle 10 year old tablet? or send it to Somalia?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: it still looks brand new
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Looking to buy a new laptop, any suggestions?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What are you going to use it for?  Portability key?  Need more info :)  But I love mine: hp spectre 360
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Mostlty to carry back and forth from work, using for work and personal, and is durable.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I love my HP.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Currently, I have an Asus that I have had for 4 years.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: I have an HP stream and I like it
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: borrowed a hp, spent 4 hours to set it up for recording. blew up before 1 second before the 1st hit on the snare.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: it's smaller and thinner than a lot of the other laptops I've seen but I don't really have any complaints other than the fact that I bump the trackpad, but I use an external mouse anyway so it's no big deal.
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i5 and i7
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: why would \n break print statements in triggers?
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: define break
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: to make not work
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Is there a syntax for calling GMCP values from w/i MUSH and not a plugin?  I know how to watch onbroadcast but looking for something more simple
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You could call it from the command line if that's what you are looking for.  For example:  \\\require "gmcphelper" require "tprint" tprint(gmcp("char.base"))
T3/r7/2017-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: aha, you gotta use require even in MUSH. ok got it thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: stand
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: miscomm
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolonia Tech: i cant use mccp in zmud 4.62?
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: either you have turned it off in mush or in zmud
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try: mccp start
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: err not in mush - mudside
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for zmud: Preferences > General > Emulation, and check the 'MUD Compression (MCCP)'
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also consider switching to mushclient - that one is way more popular here than Zmud
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolonia Tech: i check but this option dont exit
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: mccp is provided in an external module with zmud 4.62 32bit
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolonia Tech: i try with your client
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolonia Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/download/mccp_pc.zip here?
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: MCCLIENT.EXE (28160 bytes) and MCCLIENT.CFG (105 bytes approx)
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: MCCLIENT.CFG (26 bytes) contains one line: 4010 23.111.136.202 4010
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: MCCLIENT.EXE (28160 bytes) runs as a local server in the firewall
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: zmud.exe character accesses host: 127.0.0.1 port 4010 
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: MCCLIENT.EXE (28160 bytes) is run first while connected to the internet (won't load offline, but once loaded, may go offline and remain loaded) 
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolonia Tech: in mushclient why input bar cleared after each command?
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If you want them, press alt+0 and click on "Keep Commands On Prompt Line". I think that is what you might be wanting.
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolonia Tech: how do i keep the last command i typed in the command input area? in mushclient
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: type tech -h 10, I think Turie answered that
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: game > configure > commands, tick auto-repeat commands
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolonia Tech: that option dont work
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is the option Starling said.
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is the option Starling said.
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Evidently so, because Turie is auto-repeating commands ;)
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolonia Tech: can you repeat please?
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: use tech -h 10
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: game > configure > commands, tick auto-repeat command
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: then hit ok
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is on the upper right of the mini-window that pops up.
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bolonia Tech: ok ty
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You should see that the command you enter is not cleared from the command line, but becomes selected and remains in place until you clear it
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Whenever I kill a cp mob, I'm getting FOUR automatic cp check in a row - I'm guessing this has to do with S&D? But can I make it do it only once? It does "cp ch" twice and "cp check" twice, btw.
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Do you have Bast's plugins installed?
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I would just disable auto sending "cp ch" / "cp check" - that just slows you down
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: If so, that could be part of the issue as Bast's script does send cp checks
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Yes, after a lot of fiddling around, I have, because I wanted the statmonitor from there.
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Can you elaborate on it slowing you down?
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You mean the way it has to wait for command lag (from combat) to clear before the cp check can go through?
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sending cp check and receiveing answer from mud costs you a few seconds, right ?
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or maybe just 1 second
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Only when I'm lagged from sending other commands, e.g. combat abilities, which are on a 3.0 second lag
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Time off task and poor gear slow me down a lot more :P
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: abelinc, where is my iphone
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: you only have one?
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Monst raspberry
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Monst sticks his tongue out, catching a few flies in the process.
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: flawless...
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: iphone, yes, only one
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: which plugin gags the {RDESC} tags?
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The mapper, probably
T3/r7/2017-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: I want to torture the planned obsolence guys involved with printer ink cartridges...
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the ascii map gags rdesc
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because it requests map update when a door opens, but there's no out of band signal for doors opening, and I didn't want it to request if a room description matches the pattern
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how likely is that, though?
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: likely enough that *I* saw it happen
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which means pretty likely
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because I'm not the best tester
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know how many rooms it would happen in. I know that the academy has at least one of them though.
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you're just wondering why the rdesc tag doesn't show, that's why. it's still there and you can still trigger on it
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: at least I think you can
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: does the plugin gag and prevent you from triggering off rdesc in another plugin?
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it gags, but I hope it doesn't prevent triggering in another plugin
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oyxl Tech: guys, since I cant register an account on the mushclients boards, I'm sort of forced to ask here. How do you call a table from one to the other plugin? GetPluginVariable works, but it doesn't turn the varible into a table, it just makes it a string with seemingly no way to convert into a table
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oyxl Tech: guys, since I cant register an account on the mushclients boards, I'm sort of forced to ask here. How do you call a table from one to the other plugin? GetPluginVariable works, but it doesn't turn the varible into a table, it just makes it a string with seemingly no way to convert into a table
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oyxl Tech: oops sorry
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: When I load some of Bast's miniwindows, they don't save if I quit Mushclient. As in: I have to go into Plugins and add them anew every time I'm going to play. Any tip for how to get them to save?
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: dont quit?
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Shaleya: which miniwindows aren't saving?
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Bast: The stats window and the tabbar. Oh, and the GQ window as well.
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: is the GQ window the miniwin_gq file or the miniwin_events file?
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: so crazy question if i want to update my aardwolf package from 1802 to 1940 how do i keep my databas and plugins and everything
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: There's an installer
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Just select your old directory and it should do it for you
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: make a backup of your old install then run the installer and point  it at your current isntall
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: the installer is in the aardwolf 1802 file?
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: No, the 1940
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It should auto-run on download
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: finger fiendish for the url to download the later installer
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: right
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: make a backup (just copy mush directory with mush closed) before you start any updates 
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: brb
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: is there a way to check for update manualy
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the manual update check command is 'package update check'
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Anyone know under what settings you can set up to where it keeps what you typed on the command line, for example if I was to type n then hit enter it would keep the n there so I could just spam enter to keep going north?
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Game>Configure>commands. Check Auto repeat command
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: that did the trick, tyvm :)
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: do I need to escape the # sign in regexp?
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: in this regexp
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ^(?!You still have to kill \*)
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what is the initial ?! supposed to do?
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://www.google.com/search?q=regex+%3F!
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: it means negative lookahead.  See: https://www.google.com/search?q=regex+%3F
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: whoops, wrong url, that's what I copied from Fiendish :P
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: This one explains it: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12210807/what-does-mean
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: unfortunately the hyperlink2 plugin doesn't work 100% on all urls :\
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Sometimes mush gets in a state for me where I can't copy/paste into mush but I can copy out.  When that happens I need to restart mush to work with my clipboard again.  I've seen this on the r1937 build a few times and it just happened to me on the r1940 build.  I'm running in wine.  Any suggestions?  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sounds like a wine bug
T3/r7/2017-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, it's probably wine.  I'll see if there is an update for wine.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I spent the past week writing a new communication log plugin that does everything that the old one does but with new bugs
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: exciting
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Sweet! I love when we get new bugs!
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hiballl Tech: it's not bugs...it's features
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well, no
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it really is bugs
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'll try to get them all out before releasing it
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: thanks for the new bugs :) but that is the most important feature, behind maps
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've been wanting to do this rewrite for a very long time
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: fiendish I think you should write something with a sharptracker in it...mine screws up everytime I upgrade mush...it doesn't work now :(
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what does sharp tracker do?
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: that is simple script that just shows total gold, xp, trains gathered from pups/levels
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: count how many times you sharpen a weapon?
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: it pushes the reports on your double and quests and levels to your communications channel
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is that all?
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also it shows how much xp / pups you got during double (and probably speed)
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why is it called sharp tracker if it doesn't track sharpens?
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: yep! It counts pups and tells you how far inbetween levels and pups
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: it times everything
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: timing kills is finicky
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I used to do that way back in the day
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: also counts vorpals and skill completions (time to get skill too 100%)
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess it's probably easier now
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: oh yes...Vorpals
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well, put together a complete list of things you want to track and I'll see what I can do in between doing other things
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: just add that to your ext update! LOL
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: REALLY?
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: sweet...I will get that list together
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: speaking of next updates...
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I need to do something
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: brb
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: damn. things to do in the morning. I guess nothing else is happening tonight
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: good night all
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: night
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: need help lol, my MUSH only left with one big screen for me
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: with only the main window, the communication log, maps and stats all disappeared
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: try resetaard
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: tried that
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: not working lol
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: tried closing and re-opening?
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: done that too
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: sorry, that's all i got
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: i dunno if i can re-install lol my IT just blocked any installation on my laptop
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i don't believe mush installs. it just runs
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: i tried to download the latest patch but i need admin password to patch it
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: so i didnt lol
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i used to play at work using a thumb drive
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: so don't install software on your boss's hardware
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: ah i know why now
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: i realized my plugins including the original plugins are gone
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonhart Tech: got it fixed lol thanks Gorsk for your help!
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: any player using a screen reader on who can answer a quick question?
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne pokes MeadowMare Kya in the ribs.
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Oh, new feature in MUSH, displaying messages received while in note writing mode? Or has that always been, and I just never noticed because I echo most everything to chat log anyway?
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: as long as chat comes over gmcp
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it also replays messages in main after you leave note mode
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: unless you mean it's showing chats in main while in note mode, because I think that shouldn't happen
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No, didn't show anything while in note mode. I was just surprised to see that queued message waiting for me after leaving note mode.
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that way you don't miss anything no matter where you look
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I'm guessing it's only for anything echoed to main window, as none of my chats were queued up.
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: abelinc, my letter T is still having problems
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Anyone know of a way to compare a cell with countif when doing multiple countif's in a row verses a column?
T3/r7/2017-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what's a countif
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: Anybody on using tintin++?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Ixle :P
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: output of "clients": | Tintin                          |     10 |
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: That's a nice feature I never knew about...very cool
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: I just had a coding question...will check forums I guess, thx tho Trachx
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just ask, you never know who is online
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: Just trying to figure out what is the point of the class feature
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: You can set up blocks of code, each with it's own file name
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: I don't see how grouping it all into a class adds a benefit
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: Except maybe to give you the option to kill a whole block of code at once?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: hello?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: anyone there? :p
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Better to ask your specific question.
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: i need a litle help. i don't  hear any sound. i don't know how i disactived them, i have a lot of sound trighered none of them work
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: volume up
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Does sound work on other programs? Is your sound muted?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: volum up?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: but how do i re arange it?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Have they ever worked?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Answer my other questions then, tech -h mend
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: ah sory. yes sound works on other programs
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Game -> Configure -> Triggers, check whether "Enable Trigger Sounds" is ticked
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: trighers sounds are checked
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: pick any trigger that should play sound, click Edit, then click Test
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you do not hear sound go to mixer setting and unmute Mush client
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if sound file cannot be found pick existing sound file
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styria Tech: ok going to try that. thanks!
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have marked "only if inactive" by accident unmark it
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also check whether triggers are enabled ("Enable Triggers" in Game -> Configure -> Triggers) and whether that specific trigger is enabled - when you enter into editing trigger then "Enabled" should be ticked
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: what's a maam in the middle attack?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It's like a man in the middle attack, but with a women?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sounds spicy
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: it's illegal in most states and parts of arkansas
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: figs
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: need to try this maam in the middle attack out
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: Apparently there is gender equality in the tech world...
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hopelessly Mackenzie Tech: how do i turn off the inventory serial help on the new mush?? 
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what does it say?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Game On! Rezit Tech: It's one of the plugins. You should be able to see which one it is and disable it
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hopelessly Mackenzie Tech: "The Aardwolf MUSHclient Package includes a plugin for displaying object serial numbers in your inventory."
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hopelessly Mackenzie Tech: and more and more about object serials 
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what does it say to type?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hopelessly Mackenzie Tech: i get it every single time i check my inventory
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hopelessly Mackenzie Tech: ugh i swore i typed that.... is it syntax exact? 
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: define "syntax exact"?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hopelessly Mackenzie Tech: it appears typing inven serial help doesn't et you the right screen
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: with an s
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: serials
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I can try to make it more flexible
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hopelessly Mackenzie Tech: silly s 
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Game On! Rezit Tech: It's ok Fiendish. It's still the awesomemest thing out there
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hopelessly Mackenzie Tech: it's fine, i knew how to find an anwer =P 
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: rezit: the plugin has a command to silence the message. removing the plugin entirely isn't a good suggestion, imo
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hopelessly Mackenzie Tech: i dont think he meant that, he probably thought it was another script causing the issue - but this is based on him saying how awesome it is 
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: let's see...
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Game On! Rezit Tech: it worked for me
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it might work, but the plugin adds useful functionality for managing inventory without getting in the way. I'd rather see advice on the right command to clear the hint than to remove the plugin, forget it exists, and then think that the only value added by using the mushclient package is that it facilitates S&D
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Mackenzie: I'll add in some kind of automatic vanish for the hint after a couple repeats
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Mackenzie: I'm adding a counter so that it only shows the message 3 times. reasonable?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: Mapper database automatic backup delayed due to combat. Will try again in 5 seconds.
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: how do i change that to 10 minutes?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can either toggle mapper backups quiet or submit code for setting that as a parameter
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: thanks. it'll be the first option. the second one's beyond my skill set
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 5 seconds and 10 minutes are both somewhat arbitrary. 10 minutes is just slightly more likely to cause a backup to be missed if you kill a mob and then quit right away.
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it doesn't trigger the delayed backup once you exit combat?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I figured that 5 seconds would be long enough for most people to finish their fight on average without making them wait too long before being able to start the next fight
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: my fights tend to last alot longer than 5 seconds is why
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Why doesn't it just set a watcher for GMCP combat state?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it seemed nicer this way
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Seem more arbitrary :P
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I didn't want to force the player to stop attacking mobs
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods at Gorsk.
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I would consider changing it to just happen at the end of combat 
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gorsk beams a smile at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I don't see how they would have to. After combat state changes, start a 5 second timer to backup, if combat is re-engaged before the timer expires, reset the watch
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: reepeat until backup achieved
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not unreasonable
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe in the next update
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Also could consider backing up to a /tmp location (or roaming for windows), on exit and periodically copy over.
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Unless instant-state backups are an issue
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vario Tech: hi
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh hi!
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: his given out here
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vario Tech: any idea why my client periodically stops responding to commands ubtil i reconnect?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you're disconnected when you try to send them?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: which client?
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vario Tech: its called mudrammer on ios
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: my mudrammer does the same. i noticed that it does that when i rotate my screen, so i lock the rotation. that helps
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vario Tech: i think im actually still connected but server doesnt respond to commamds
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sneaky!
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vario Tech: oh weird are you using it in vertical or horizontal? the text is a little skewedd in vertical for me
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i use both. either way, but it does not like it when it rotates.
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: when it rotates when logged in. then it does what you said, does not respond to commands.
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vario Tech: ah yeah just was dcd again after changing orientation
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vario Tech: do you m
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vario Tech: oops my autocorrect doesnt seem tk
T3/r7/2017-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vario Tech: to work here sorry
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vario Tech: do you have any solutions for that by any chance?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: lock rotation. other than that, no idea.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ya, come on geez
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sorry, meant to chide on a different channel.. not this one
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: does Bast's eqDB plugin always error when you do 'help invdetails'?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok fixed it
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igniz Tech: how do i make a trigger to notify me when gqs are in range
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: https://imgur.com/a/33Thc
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igniz Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igniz Tech: whats the message when you scried??
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: "You feel as if you are being watched."
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igniz Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: np!
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: How do I turn off these Time to VOTE prompts?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: ivoted clear
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: Thank you Ralyn
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Anyone with MUSHclient questions, get them answered here
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: 10 TPs to anyone who fixes my wifi issue without me having to buy a new router: http://community.linksys.com/t5/Wireless-Routers/EA7300-loses-internet-connection-but-only-on-wifi/td-p/1220327
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: change channel from auto to something fixed, disconnec usb 3 devices, you can fido tps :P (if it works)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: No you can't
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Try fido'ing one to me now, I'll wait
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: at least USB 3.0 devices unshielded will interfere with wifi devices like mouses
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: no wireless USB devices in use
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: tried channels, used an analyzer to find channels with the lowest traffic, tried multiple on 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: fixed channels should not really matter unless your neighbour uses some kind of amplifier anyway
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I mean, the 2.4Ghz band is CLOBBERED with tons of devices chatting over it. 5Ghz is much less used.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: u ever check that the antennas on your router are still connected?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you have some kind of network manage? sometimes software decides to switch to "better" router
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: they're connceted and the signal is strong. that's the weird part: it never disconnects from the router, it just stops sending/receiving packets from the internet.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Also, make sure the antennae have clear view of the main room they sit in (IE not behind a TV, Monitor, Toaster,etc)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: it happens <10ft from the router too
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: does your router have stats for rx/tx retry rate?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Doesn't matter. Interference isn't distance based (other than having more chances to encounter it)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: does your router have some kind of "IDP" ? maybe it just blocks you because of too many session open
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: sco
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: oopsie
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: Dendrix: not that I've seen
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or maybe it was called IDS and ADP intrusion detection system, anomaly detection something 
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: anyone sending deauth packets to your clients because they have a beef with you ?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could try using wireshark to check whether you get some kind of icmp prohibited or so messages
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: if someone is dedicated enough to follow me around when I moved 20 miles away then they win all of the money
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yeah run wireshark, ping 8.8.8.8 and see what actually happens. It's guaranteed (based on your forum post) to at least make it to 192.168.1.1 (the router), from there wireshark should give more info.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mas que Raded goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway seems software related, too many open connection too many connections per second / nat table overflow
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: how would I resolve that on the router's end?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Lots of laptops restrict total simultaneous connections to 8.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but then other people would have that problem too
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I don't think it's on the router's end, TBH
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: this happens on multiple laptops as well as TV, phone, PS3, PS4
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Did you do the simple solution and reset your DHCP pool?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you have multiple devices sharing that router ?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: I've done multiple factory resets, if that would do it. this has been an issue since I got the router as well.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is your router configured to block traffic at certain times
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: not blocking traffic a certain times.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if multiple devices - then probably one of them misbehave, unless you tested only your pc / router scenario (ie without those extra devices)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: NOT RECOMMENDED: But lets do it to test. Pidgeonhole your laptop and open/forward ALL ports to it
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have you tried using combofix (in case your pc is virus infected?)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: I'm not near the router right now big X big D
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: this sounds more like an issue of the router blocking communication on that channel for a small window of time (you see it sometimes when they receive the becon that says hey military network here change channel and stay quiet for a minute)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: XD
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: but his neighbors would have the same issue, and it wouldnt be that common
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: I am relatively close to an airport, but this happened when I lived elsewhere with the same router.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: have you tried another router by any chance to see if its device related?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: I haven't done combofix or anything like that, but this has been across multiple clean OS installs on the PC
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I think he is avoiding changing devices
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: my previous router (which broke) didn't have these issues.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so problem is with your router
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: TBH, I usually just slap DD-WRT on my routers. Has much cleaner logging, and more verbose.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: can try to load open WRT on the router
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: that's a good idea
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: his router doesn't support dd-wrt or any others for that matter
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mas que Raded whines pathetically about everything.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: at least that i could find that quickly
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Is it a modem and router, or just a router?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: just a router
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Hmm. Have you tried setting it to a single channel and disabling either 2.4 or 5 GHz?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: just uy  a cheap ubiquiti ap and be done with it, if its just the wifi
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: What the hell did you just say? :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: AP is the way to go
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So then that means you have a modem, right? Does it support enabling wifi?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: I actually haven't tried disabling 2.4/5 and using the other. we wanted the 5GHz band for streaming to the TV but I have some older devices that can't do 5GHz
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: no wifi on the modem
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Nods, I've been there (Looking at you, PS3)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: PS3 is not here.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: he name PsThree is available for use.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: but yeah my needs with this router were: gigabit, wired and wireless, 2.4GHz and 5GHz band. and not Asus because my Asus router had just randomly died and I was angry.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: so Gb and 802.11ac+
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: sure, yes, why not
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: maybe I should just buy a new router
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: And pizza
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: I had pizza yesterday though
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Dough*
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: I cant eat the same thing two days in a row, mom
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: But you didn't share with the class.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: I only bought two slices and I'm a fatty
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Did it have mayo
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: Cheez what router should I own
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I actually had a pizza with mayo the other day
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It was surprisingly good
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: It really is
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: it doesn't sound bad
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: These people think I'm kidding around
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Not with mayo, I'm not
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I would have, if i hadn't just eaten one :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: Cheezburger I demand you find me a cheap wireless router that can also handle three wired connections
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That would literally be any router anywhere.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Except the POS you have now
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: ok well I found the one that CAN'T
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: My honest suggestion is to just fork the money for a nighthawk and be good for the next decade
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: too much money pick something cheaper
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: $200 isn't "too much money" IMO, for future safety
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The cheap stuff will be deprecated in a year
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: General Xaeris rapidly nods twice at No Offense Cheezburger, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Spending $60 every year versus $200 for 7-10 years... I know what trade I'd take
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: if it can handle streaming 4k Stranger Things to my TV without any ping issues playing video games I'm not worried about what might come in a year
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: when exactly does a router become deprecate? on the other hand I'm using the router for, you know, internet stuff, so my expectations might be lower :)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: if yer not a corporation, what would you expected to use a router for ? :)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Xaeris Tech: Was ... was that serious?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: ...
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Wait, I wanna ride this wave
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: me too
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: What do you mean, Kit?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cheap? mikrotik or ubiquiti
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: next tech thing I spent money on I want to be a new monitor. if I have to replace the stupid router I have now I don't want to blow a bunch of money on it :(
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I think it was meant to be a response to raded's question
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: come in and be my guest :)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Unless you're going for a 4k monitor, you could still pick up both for >$350
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but you could also get just access point (in case your router has buggy WiFi part)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: dual band wireless, wired ports, gigabit router.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: How many wires ports you need, and what range for the wifi?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: wired*
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: I mean a 'home' router is juart to access internet, and a 10Mb is enough (I am on 100... but I'm a geek)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: 250Gb down, 150 up here :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: A 'home' router is still a router, is it not?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: well, a good bot need more speed
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: three wired ports, not a huge range. 1200sq ft house.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: All routers are the same as long as you don't need to do intranet VPN
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: 250Gb down? G? G??
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: No, sorry, M
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: you have >1 computer?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I wish
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: thumb up Cheezburger
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: I have a PC and two laptops that I like to keep plugged in when possible
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: 1200 sq ft house doesn't tell us much
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: mudd: 4 PC + 3 mobiles... 2 wifi
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: There could be all kinds of walls between one point and the next, it could be on an edge or in the center
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: My only requirements are: low ping, stable wifi and as small as possible downside. 100Mbps here, but 10 would of been enough, unless downloading an ISO or something I really don't need that
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: you solve walls with hotspots, not with better router
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: downtine, not downside
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: My house has 2 gaming pcs, 2 ps4's, 2 cell phones, 2 laptops, 1 tablet, 2 apple tv's, and a patridge in a pear tree.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: well the crappy router I'm using now has no issue with signal in the house
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Well, it has issues with something :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: Abelinc won't let me get online :(
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You can't guaranteee it's not the signal drop
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: it had those same issues in my old apartment too so I don't think that's the issue :p
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: dang, i want to move in with cheezburger
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: OMG Cheezburger, pay attention not to sparkle next WW
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: my wife and I game together :P Means I gotta buy double of everything
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: the fact you have 11 devices or something means very little. how many of them doing traffic at the same time?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Actually it matters exponentially
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: if it's dropping signal with nothing but air between the antenna and the laptop that's on the desk next to it then I still think it's the router
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: All connected devices are allocated an equivalent amount of bandwidth
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Regardless of if they are using it or not
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that's a very, very bad setup, imho
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: but to each his own
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: and yes... a crappy router could not be able to handle thoe 150 simultanueos accesses :)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's the WiFi standard, though
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: All routers do that, it can't be help. it's pretty much the equivalent of a C/C++ malloc
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: depends on the standard
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: No, everything 802.11 and above follows it
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: anyway find me a $20 router Cheez
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: lol 20 dollar router..
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: huh... malloc was programmes side deprecated 15 years ago :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I have 3-4 devices online at most times. my speed is almost at the nominal speed of the wan connection, when I'm the only one downloading
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it has know the size of the "array" of devices beforehand, that's why it blocks out an allocation
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: programmers*
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I really think you got that wrong :)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: What are you talking about Kit, if you go and write a C program today you WILL ABSOLUTELY have to malloc
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: malloc is C, oldC++ uses new, new c++ uses make_*
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I know, because I just wrote one a week ago :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: buy me pretty things, Mr Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: yes... I was jerking around... i actually HATE the concept of 'Garbage Collection' (old age programmer)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: "A Wi-Fi router rated at 300 Mbps with 100 devices connected, for example, can only offer on average 3 Mbps to each of them (300/100=3)." -- Credit: https://www.lifewire.com/how-many-devices-can-share-a-wifi-network-818298
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger knows his networking.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: and it's obvious you have to know 'malloc' in c... c++ could avoid to know
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: nope :)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: there is a word there, loaded with meaning: average :)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Well no shit...
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Nothing is every a hard/exact limit
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: ever*
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Now you're just being pedantic :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: if what you said earlier is true, yeah, you could have some variation, but no speed beyond 25 mbps
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: this is the goddamn tech channel on a MUD in 2017 we're all pedantic
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: 'ever'... I agree, Cheezburger
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: and I'm sure you can reach 100, for example
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's not true either
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: KirCarson, yiu should program in C++ C++ doesn't have garbage collector because it desn'
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: Raded: LOL
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I prefer Scala development these days, even for low level
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: doesn't create garbage
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: most all of Scala is lazy evaluated, so it a very very smart Mark&Sweep style of GC.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: now someone give me an Amazon link for a cheapo router that will stream 4K on Netflix without me noticing on other devices but will also let me stay connected to Aard while I'm afk
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: StarsOscar: I did program in c++... actually visual studio c++ HAS GC :(
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you already have cheap router :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: https://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9B-33-389-031&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleBiz-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleBiz-PC-_-pla-_-Network+-+Wireless+Routers-_-9B-33-389-031&gclid=CjwKCAjwhOvPBRBxEiwAx2nhLtVeC3OpKUwVawc09NvmczU60g7RcqIdeNVtoqLPAtWXhBWOQ7n3uxoCn78QAvD_BwE
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Holy good god that url...
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: thanks, Trachx.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: VC is crap
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: bad newegg, bad
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: so you see all king of programmers forget to surround staements in try{} and 'forget' to fee res and mem :(
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: either get any (even used) that can be flashed with dd-wrt or something more reliable than cheap device
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: not gigabit and not dual band though :(
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try and catch are nice - you just need 1 try in main and 1 catch :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: if ALL devices download, at full speed, at the same time, the average speed is divided by n. if 20 devices idle and one downloads, that benefits from the full speed. tell me how that matches the quote above (as reply to my question about which of them actually do any traffic at the same time): Cheezburger Tech: All connected devices are allocated an equivalent amount of bandwidth
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Try { doSomethingEvilOrDie } match { case Success(x) => println("Evil succeeded");case Failure(e) => println("Some goody two-shoes stopped us") }
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: you CAN allocate an equivalent amount of bandwidth, and that can be enforced by the router, but that is certainly not something it automatically does, unless all devices actually request that bandwitch
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger slaps Trachx.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You must have wrote the legacy code i've been debugging!
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: a little OT: It's interesting to see HOW MANY programmers / tech ppl are in the mud ATM
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Everything fails with 200 OK
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also adding while makes your program bug proof: main() {while (1) ( try { doAnything } catch {} }
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: bug proof as in that no bug will take down your program 
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: A good chunk of the mud is in IT in one form or another
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mas que Raded nods at No Offense Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: cut to the chase -- what is the optimal config to download pr0n?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: I do medical software stuff
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: nntp
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Tor and a VPN :p
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mas que Raded peers intently at No Offense Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: sorry to say Trachx, but a single try catch in main is looking for hell
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: what kind of porn are you looking at, mr burger
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and VM or at least sandbox
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: darkweb pron, clearly
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: the optimal config is to browse with no cache/log/etc. :) and certainly no 'bookmarks' :)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Always VM, sandboxes fail
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess single catch and try is anti-pattern
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: ctrl_shift_n ftw
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's not only an anti-pattern, it's a code smell, and it's un-integratable :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: StarsOscar is agreeing with that No Offense Cheezburger person again...
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: "The application died somewhere, but I don't know where" is the only kind of error you could give :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: Trachx: not just antipattern... antiprogrammer, I'd say... I the mean you'll kill any programmer trying to put hands on YOUR code
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: UNLESS
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but business friendly, that way business always needs *you* to fix their problems
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Everything is properly wrapped in a promise
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: create bugless software and you will earn no money once you sell your software
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's not business friendly, it's just job security while they search for someone to replace you forever :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: ROFL Cheezburger
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: let the dev create bugs otherwise i need a new job
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: "Ticket Reads: Searched for dog images, was returned infected phalluses" -- "Programmer Response: Working as intended"
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you are paid by hour or line-of-code , well quality does not matter
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Sounds like Someone works in Q&A :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Good god I never want to go to paid for lines of code.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I'd never write a loop again in my life
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: that might or might not be acurate depending on your view of Q&A...
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: "So did you REALLY need to define every word in the english language?: -- "Yes"
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: so what's special about this nighthawk router other than it sounds like a synthwave band name
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: does in come with DD-WRT already installed?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: dual band, 4 antennae, guest network, gigabit+, decent ram, lots of CPU power, etc
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: No, but it's compatible
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: iteration is one of the basic concepts of programming
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Right, but if i'm paid for lines of code, I wouldn't ever iterate
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: I mean, the Nighthawk AC1750 is somewhat reasonably priced
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00R2AZLD2 does this get the Mr Burger seal of approval
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it's the one i have
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Sub $100 on prime too
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That's way less than I bought mine for
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: maybe I'll grab it if I can't get my dumb router sorted out
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Actually this is the one I have: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GPAOJJG?th=1
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: ULTIMATE GAMING ROUTER
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: I like it because it actually knows to de-prioritize netflix traffic over my game traffic :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: does it have turbo mode for gqs?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Like when the Wife and I were both downloading destiny, I could still play rocket league at 19ms ping
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Totally, Mend, totally
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: thats just a lack of bandwith Cheez :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yes and no.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The router actually gives things like that less bandwidth when games are going, but will also give it more when it's downloads or video stream
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: for that you should talk to fiendish, to flag the packets when gmcp gquest message is received :)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Nah, I use a custom client, it already does that :P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: that sounds too complicated
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Pleb
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: yeah, I know. I still was unable to get it to work decently on win
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mas que Raded is agreeing with that No Offense Cheezburger person again...
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: is it allways doing that or only when the bandwith is fully used like QoS ?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Did you run "activateMyBotPlease" from the root directory?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Only when bandwidth is nearing max
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I don't trust other people bots!
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Which I have 250 down, but both the wife and I were pulling destiny down at 30MB (yes, big B), so it was right up on the cap
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: big B
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mas que Raded gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: on a more serious note, I did get it to work. I mean the client. the windowing part was a mistery, no mapper, no channels, I had no idea if it was supposed to look like that or if I had to do something myself
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: and on an even more serious note, this is the monitor I've been looking at: https://www.amazon.com/VG248QE-1920x1080-144Hz-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B00B2HH7G0
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: which is why I don't want to drop money on a router that adds NOTHING to my internet video gaming skill.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: for me gaming = mud, so the HZ part only has to be comfortable enough for the eye. even when I bot, my screen doesn't move fast enough for it to matter (yeah, slow bot, I know) :)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: I miss having a monitor with a good refresh rate, I've had my 60hz one for 8+ years. it's time for an upgrade.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: unrelated to the above: I saw the specification for MCCP writes that the servers can end the compression. is that something that actually happens, or is it a rfc-like urban legend? :)
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Happens every ice age.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: ok. and then the subnegotionation occurs again? or it starts over from the initial options exchange?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: whats the command to redo the gui in mush?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Coming Undone was like, 2005?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: someone here on windows 10 or whatever who uses mushclient and who has a minute, I need to know if my installer requires you to run it as admin or not
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I've mentioned it before, but it prompts a warning, but you can choose "More details" and "Run anyway."
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: a warning because it's unsigned right?
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I believe so. I can check it real quick.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there isn't much I can do about not wanting to pay for a signing certificate
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Only happens if you have UAC disabled, too.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Hmm, maybe I'm wrong, because this one didn't set it off. I know previous ones had, though.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I assume a self signed certificate wouldn't prevent this and that I would need to pay a CA 
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heliar Tech: you can try https://letsencrypt.org/
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: letsencrypt does not do code signing
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heliar Tech: Lets Encrypt is a free, automated, and open Certificate Authority.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heliar Tech: no it doesn't
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heliar Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well, I gues the windows 10 creators update has an option to block apps that weren't installed from the windows app store
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I hope they don't make that mandatory in Windows 10.1 or whatever
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Send your source to me, I'll check everything out and make sure it's on the up and up! =P
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't need to send anything to you for that, it's already online
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am annoyed if Microsoft does the App block.
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: both MUSHclient.exe and my installer are generated automatically on AppVeyor using the appveyor.yml files in the repositories
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so all of the source files for both are the contents of those two repositories
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wow, apple stock got a serious bump today
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that earnings report was a home run
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, about the installer, I mostly need to confirm that a player can still install the package on a USB stick and transport it somewhere they don't have install privileges
T3/r7/2017-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: of course, this new creators update thing could be a second wrench if the system will also block the execution of anything not from the appstore
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: fiendish ?
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah what's up
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: the package installer still is r1943
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: checking
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh.
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: huh.
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Github was having server errors generating the Pages sites. Let me kick it again and see if that fixes it.
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KitCarson )
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: one sec while I initiate a new appveyor build, which should repopulate the site template
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: thank you. fixed now
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so weird
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: thank you :)
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: and I confirm it's all ok now
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: great
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: how do i turn off mushclient showing me every command i enter ?
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Game -> Configure -> Output -> Echo Commands
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I love how, when you unsubscribe from a mailing list, they send you that one last email saying, "You are now unsubscribed."
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: and what's the deal with airplane food
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: hmm when ever i try to xrt using the mapper to hoard it takes me to the wrong place.. how can i train the mapper to go to the right place?
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: if you do xrt swordbreaker, does it do it correctly?
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: it is a few spaces north of it
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Inside the area, or outside?
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: outside
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, that's very odd
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: i think there's a way to flag an area entrance again, but I can't recall the command
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: xset mark
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: that one
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: xset mark
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: so what i think is happening is this..
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i have a portal to kobold which is just north of it
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i run to the entrance of the area.. which is just north but when you try to go south from kobold you cannot
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i need to tell the mapper that the only exit out of hoard entrance is west not south
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: can always make a cexit for west
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: that will get used before any other exits from that room, which can be good or bad
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yeah that is a good idea.. but i don't know if the mapper mapps the areas between area
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: lemme give it a try
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's smart enough for that yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nice.. the cexit worked
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: thanks all
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gashik Tech: can I split the screen like in zmud?
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No. :(
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: id love to have a plugin that does that zmud style screen split when you scroll up
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Probably not going to be possible to make.
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it is possible but hasn't been done
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea i thought about trying it but im just not that good
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Also, Fiendish, I sent you a note on personal, don't know if the link I gave you there is useful, but apparently GlobalSign will allow you to digitally sign windows applications for free.
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've recently just modularized the code for making scrolling textboxes in miniwindows, which should make a horizontal splitline plugin easy to implement
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: come agai?
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so...you know how the comm log has text that you can select and scroll around?
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: yes? I think so
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so, right, it actually doesn't. that's all smoke and mirrors
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and it's like 1000 lines of code to make it happen
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: really...
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: huh
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so I finally years later have gotten around to making that code portable so that any plugin can just make a scrolling text area easily
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: it used to not work at all, whenever the screen scrolled with text selected it would "select" a different line
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: so youre saying this could be used for a zmud style screen-split plugin?
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: id like to think if someone really knew what they were doing it wouldnt be a very difficult plugin to write, especially knowing that code you mentioned is available
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the code isn't available quite yet
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: without that code it's probably the most difficult thing a person can do
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: thats like half the battle right there
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: so scrolling text windows is very difficult in mushclient? seems odd
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the reason is technical and unfortunate
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but capturing text as something that actually approximates text is historically one of the things that mushclient miniwindows are incapable of without my code
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: awfully complicated... oh well
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: sounds*
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can use secondary world windows, but you can't do quite as much with those as you can do with miniwindows 
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: hrm
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: arcidayne: I saw your note. thanks for the link. I think I'd seen them before and was scared off by the title talking specifically about java apps
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but I'll try it out and see what happens
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, looking at -h...MUSHclient has shipped with a plugin "Current_Output_Window.xml" which isn't really what you guys are asking for, but it does solve *why* you would ask for it...(i.e. it lets you be scrolled up to read back stuff without missing seeing new stuff come in)
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: wait is this in reference to the zmud-style split window thing?
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: that sounds great, i have to update mush to get that?
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's shipped with MUSH practically since the beginning of time
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: oh its with mush, not aardmush
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ill check it out
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, both, but it's a Gammon file
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it ships with aardmush as well as vanilla
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just go to file -> plugins, add, and select it
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: oh, its basically what i want just backwards
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, that plugin waits until you scroll up, and then it pops up a miniwindow which shows the recent stuff
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yep, i want it to be the other way around but this proves the theory
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so if something new comes in, you'll see it in that miniwin while your main output is where it always is
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: maybe my idea about how to do it is backwards..
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I don't find that plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i was thinking youd stick a minwindow on the top half of the output window
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: and have that be the scrollable/history
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, that would be the ideal from a user interface standpoint, but more difficult from an implementation standpoint
T3/r7/2017-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea sounds like it from what fiend has said
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, Starling, you're right, I don't see it in the current repo...it used to be in aardMUSH, must've been pruned at some point...looking at the release notes, I'll bet that it was removed in r1910 back in May...
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if someone wants to play with it, go to https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/releases/tag/r1900 and download the zip to grab that file from it
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh hi
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: is the Fiendish one here?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's offline currently, but others may be able to help :-)
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm here now
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the current_output_window plugin is kinda not great
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but you're right that it will let you see. it just won't let you interact with the text
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'll be happier with a solution that includes interaction in both sides of the divider
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what does 'fixsql' do?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ysh Tech: The aardwolf ascii art on start looks terrible on my system, where is the settings in mushclient to change the encoding? I can't seem to remember
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: mapper questions?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sure those too
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: the mapper area/mapper find commands.. what do they sort the results on?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: is it just whatever order they come back?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that depends on whether you have quicklist on or off
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you have it off then it sorts by distance, which is going to be slow because it pathfinds all of them
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh.
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you have quicklist on, which is the default I believe, then...
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: let me look at the code a
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I guess I was surprised they weren't sorted by room id, which I thought was ascending as rooms were encountered in the area typically
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like if n was the entrance, the next room over would many times be n + 1
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: areas aren't organized like that 
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh.
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also areas don't have an entrance
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's a common misconception
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like for some areas.. there's a room I can get to without having to pass through a maze.. I would want that to be the first result.. but not sure how to specify that
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: areas can have any number of entrances
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: like deathtrap dungeon's cexit destinations
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah, looks like there's no sorting
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hmm!
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: how do I check quicklist's setting?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mapper quicklist
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ok, it's ON
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: which is fine
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I mean, not sure if it's better.. since it'll be a lot slower for larger queries?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: to have it off that is*
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: quicklist off is a lot slower
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but it gives you a sense of distance
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: for all intents and purposes I'm trying to suck less at GQs and CPs.. so probably wouldn't be worth the bonus of possibly landing in the maze start
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: depending on your target having quicklist off can either help or not
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh wow. defines I love your desc
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling: If you mean the fixsql function from MUSHclient_help, it has a comment right after it's declared which says what it does...local function fixsql (s)  -- replace single quotes with two lots of single quotes
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: oh, I wasn't reading that.  I just saw it in a plugin.
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm guessing you read it in the mapper plugin (the only other file I see in a grep of the MUSHclient folder)? it has the same comment 2 lines lower...return "'" .. (string.gsub (s, "'", "''")) .. "'" -- replace single quotes with two lots of single quotes
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think I'm going to make the update checker check once per week instead of every launch
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That sounds good
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ideally it won't make much of a difference except if I'm making updates every day
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: how do i turn off the echoing of ommands in mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Alt-0, uncheck "Echo my command" at the top
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: how do i turn off the echoing of ommands in mushclientm
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: anyone know?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: its in gloabl settings
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I already answered that, like 5 min ago
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Alt-0, uncheck the box at the top that says "echo my input" and lets you pick a color.
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i didnt see it in my feed
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: wierd
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks !
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: that clicking the button didnt fix it.  i entered something mud side not client side on mush to make my commands like echo.  im getting this:  You entered: get jade bag
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Type 'echocommands'
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: that clicking the button didnt fix it.  i entered something mud side not client side on mush to make my commands like echo.  im getting this:  You entered: get jade bagcl fever?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Type 'echocommands'
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: As mentioned before, type 'echocommands'
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: perfect thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this channel's recent history is hilarious
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: -a 20
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: for some reason maptype 1 does not work, it shows up like this: https://i.imgur.com/QjCjb6P.png - I have tried resetting the font/map window and toggling unicode in the config
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you must use a capable font
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also you have to have utf8 enabled
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that looks like it's in a miniwindow?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: utf8 is enabled (in mushclient) and i'm using the default font (courier new)
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: yes miniwindow
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is it _my_ miniwindow plugin?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it doesn't look like it
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: no it's Bast's :)
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: try using mine and see if it displays properly. then we can rule out some client setting
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Bast's automap plugin may not be capable of displaying other maptypes
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mine definitely is
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: it used to work, but I upgraded your script I think and it broke it for some reason, haven't been able to figure out why
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: give me a sec. I'll load his plugin and see whta happens
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: yours is Aardwolf_BigMap_Graphical? it works fine :)
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Aardwolf_BigMap_Graphical is for something else
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: how do I turn on your ascii map? :)
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: aard_ASCII_map.xml
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so I can't get bast's map window to show anything
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh there we go. I got it
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have not used Bast's Map window since the AardMUSH map mini-window upgrades.
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think it uses tags.
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah, I don't know. Are you sure bast's plugin was showing alternate maptypes before?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because it doesn't seem to now
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: aardwolf_ascii_mapper is loaded but I don't think it's showing anything, unless it's also GMCP_mapper
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: try restarting mushclient
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: plugins sometimes toggle tags when they load and unload
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you probably also can't have them both loaded at the same time, which I should fix
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: ok I got it to work :) it works fine
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: Is Lunks URL the commonly-accepted version of WW S&D? 
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Not anymore.
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Finger Starling for an improved version.
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: Thank you :)
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ysh Tech: why wouldnt font load properly on startup i have to change it and then change it back to correct font loading incorrectly
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What client are you using?  Are you on windows?  What font are you trying to use?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ysh Tech: ubuntu and dina
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ysh Tech: mushclient
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I have only ever tried it on Windows sorry - if no one else can help would suggest posting a note to Fiendish or reporting on teh website.  Is the issue only when I try that specific font?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And by website, I mean fiendish's github in his finger.
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ysh Tech: trying to tweak the fonts and see if it helps
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: Alt+5 if you are using mush
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makoa Tech: is www.aardwolf.com down for anyone else?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: hackers
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i was just asking about security
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/aardwolf.com.html
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: maybe abelinc tripped over a cable
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ysh Tech: anyone else have a problem with comodo?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Bastard owes me money, yeah.
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ysh Tech: i mean the antivirus
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: the cause?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: darknet
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: phone hacking eq for messenger fb and such
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: pretty advanced
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Never used it, sorry.
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: waht's advanced?
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: lol me neither but my parents were might have tore me to shreds
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: its a group for script kiddies
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: waht is
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: its under spy something
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: download off of google
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i tried to say it works both ways
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: she tried it off of me and im not happy
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i asked aard is protected
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ysh Tech: testing tech colorchange
T3/r7/2017-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ysh Tech: success
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Anyone ever got this message with the S+D after upgrading MUSH. --> Alias function "xrun_to" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: reinstall the plugin(s) - extender, in this case
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I have tried that several times, could I be missing something?
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know how this got on my computer, but I think I have a new favorite output font: https://i.imgur.com/ellp0I7.png
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when he's back on, someone should check to see if Gregor might still be using Winkle's original S&D with an ancient MUSHclient...back when it used the date field in the mapper database...that could cause the error he's seeing
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: seems likely
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: he ought to just upgrade to 1.3.3
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or stop using s&d
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but he needs to know about it
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: why?
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: kekeke
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or that ;-)
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: The whole "S&D ruins exploration" desn't hold water
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You need to explore and fill out your mapper for it to even work at all.
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: If the area needs cexits, you need to identify those and set them up
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: what is s&d ?
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: If the area needs keys, you need to get them - you need to know where to get them.
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: something abelinc keeps in his basement
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is evil script that turns innocent players into cp/gq bots :P
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't say it ruins exploration. I say that taking away player decisions in favor of automating decisions ruins the experience of the game world
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: So "S&D kills exploration" is patently false.  It might make people pay less attention, but that is an entirely different argument
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is your mom telling stories again, pleiades?
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: my argument has nothing to do with exploration, I just don't like when a tool removes the need to make decisions
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: And I disagree with that too, Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't need everyone to agree with me. But you asked why
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: S&D has enhanced my experience, not taken away from it.  Are you going to tell me I'm wrong?
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Oh, wait.  I'm Starling.  I'm damned AND wrong, I forgot.
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes in the same way that a cheat code enhances your fun for a short time but ultimately leaves the experience empty
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm going to tell you you're wrong, yes
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: It isn't a cheat code, and it isn't cheating.
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I like to recall the information when doing cps/gqs/quests verses having automation.
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: cheat codes are things that make you stop needing to care about making decisions to succeed. s&d does the same
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: And I'm going to tell you screw you.  I don't have time for this.  Good day.
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually it is as much as cheat code as most cheat codes are...
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cap'n Gus Grimvald grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i thought search and destroy with autohunt was automatically on the new downloads of mush
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You thought wrong
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: finger starlilng
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: starling*
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: S&D will never be part of the MUSH download.
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: hehehe
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: hehehehe
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: hehehehehe
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i think im going to rmeove my old search and destroy and install this one!
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: should be able to just overwrite it
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: need all three of the files right? the 3 xml's there
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea just unzip and copy, then install the plugin from inside mush (or reinstall if you already have it running)
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: the one i had in my plugins were different ones, there were like version 2.0
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: version doesnt matter, only filename of the main xml
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: didnt overwite so i have to remove the old ones and put this one in
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: Does anyone know how to reset the Aard client layout to default?
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: resetaard?
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Should probably get changed to 'aard layout reset' to match the lock and unlock commands
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: perfect!
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: or even just 'aard reset' or something
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: and a help command that shows helpful usages
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: Resetaard worked!
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Jeez, making a pull request for that seems silly but I bet Fiendish would like one
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: the help command? for me thats pretty much standard, i build one into any command that has multiple usages
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: No, I'm saying the suggestion is good. I'm just too damn lazy to clone the repo and make a pull request for it
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: that way if you are like "wait how do i do that 'aard' command again? oh yea 'aard help' will tell me"
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea agreed
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: im not touching aardmush repo :p
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: Thanks for all the help guys!
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Glad you got it working :)
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: any time Kalvothe
T3/r7/2017-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i think ill just note fiendish, he has something else i want anyway
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I will readily accept a pull request for an 'aard help' command that covers important basics
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: just figure out which plugin it goes in
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (or make a new one, I suppose)
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: You can turn the echo off completely, but I'm unsure why you'd want a line appearing each time you type a letter
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what an idea
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it was a misunderstanding :P Their input bar was hidden, we misinterpreted the question :P
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: We did find a bug though, where resetaard (possible on a small monitor) still caused the input bar to be maximized outside the screen bounds.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Is it a known issue, or should I find repro steps?
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't think resetaard changes the placement of the input bar?
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I suppose it might
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it changes the size of the main window which can affect the placement of the input bar
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it does, eh?
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not for me
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, I've just been corrected :P
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it doesn't change the main window at all, which was his issue
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: That was the only window he needed to change, and it wasn't :P
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah, but that's probably best fixed at the Windows level
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Just something that came up on newbie
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'll see what I can do
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: thanks for letting me know
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: Is the right place to ask an upgrade question?
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: poke Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber pokes Long Time Fiendish in the ribs.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's exactly the right place
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: I got a notice that Mush has an update, and I ignored it because I want to know if there's a process. What should I backup, move, whatever. 
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: go to my website
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it explains
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: Thanks, fiendish. :)
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you'll probably be most interested in important info point #3
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: Oh, you're right up the road from us. Well, unless you've never lived in the midwest. Then you might think 90 minutes is basically international travel. lol
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ?
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: I just installed this with wine on Arch and crossed my fingers. If you're reading this message, it worked. lol
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I use it in wine
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: it works. and it also works without install (the zip version, for better control of the 'folder') :)
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I try to steer people away from the old unzip method because it's prone to mistakes
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: Well, then.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: if he can use it on wine, he can take care of a backup :) or should.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can make a backup either way, but the installer is just faster and easier
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: I came in here about a month ago asking vague questions about lua. When I switched from tintin to mush, I had all of the answers.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the installer doesn't leave any system artifacts or anything. it's just making sure to only replace code files and not configuration files
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well if you ever have more questions about Lua, here's a pretty good place to get them answered
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: Awesome.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: TT++ > Mush
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wolfhoundjes falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: I just right-clicked the option "In case of emergency" from teh right-click menu of the status bars. What did I do? 
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: is Level3 having any issues today?
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: oh nevermind looks like Comcast is having nationwide issues.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Mowse Tech: Oh, is that why my connection is so horrible?
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: probably
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Mowse Tech: And just as I say that my connection goes back to normal
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Wolfhoudnjes: nothing major. just shrinks the bar
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah Cheeze, but tf > TT++ }:>
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (an hour late)
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: how do you get rid of {rdesc} and {/rdesc} whenever i 'look'.  I tried tags off, and that does get rid of them, but then my ascii map stops working.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: There's a list of tags you can turn off independently.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: please don't though
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Type 'tags' with no arguments to see them...
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: try reloading your ascii map plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: it's been like that for few days.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I think he just wants rdesc turned off, Fiendish. Nothing of yours, that I know of, utilizes those tags.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you're wrong
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Oh?
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: I've closed mush, and restarted it before to fix that kind of thing
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the ascii map does for an obscure reason
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Ah, I'm thinking roomchars, not rdesc, heh.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this is my favorite kind of bug report
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i reinstalled and still there.  
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the one that happened days ago
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Negader: type 'checkversion' plz
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or don't, you know, whatever
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Hey Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Hi there Amya
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ok. i removed ascii plug in, then typed tags off, and that gets rid of those tags, but when i reinstall the plug in, the tags come back.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: negader: type 'checkversion' please
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i'm using old ones. r1802.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Where you series when you told me to put together some stuff for a tracker and you would look at it
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well boy howdy do I have good news and bad news
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i say ones in plural, i have another one. and that doesn't do that.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Amya: I try not to lie to people, yes
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: oops serious
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Negader: luckily for you the upgrade process is now painless
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: If you do not wish to upgrade, tell me if your prompt ends in %c
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you do wish to upgrade, do that and skip my previous request
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ok. does the new ones, not upgrade by self?  cus i don't want that.  
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amya Tech: Thank you, I will do that tomorrow.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the in-place self updater never really worked out
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You can type 'p data' to see if it ends in %c.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it has an installer now that should work for everyone
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: my regular game prompt ends with >%c
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: arcidayne true but it's the most reliable trigger breaker
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Negader: I think you should upgrade and see if the problem is fixed. I don't exactly understand the intent of your question about "does the new ones, not upgrade by self?" but I hope I've answered it
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: so, does it auto-upgrade?
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no, never
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yes and no.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You have to download the installer and run it.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it automatically checks for new versions but it doesn't automatically install anything
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: But it'll write the new files that need to be written over (or added to)
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I feel like we're answering different questions
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: unfortunately I don't know which one of us is answering the right one
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It seems like it. I'm answering under the pretense that he's asking about the installer being an automatic upgrade. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean, it kinda is
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but it's not going to run itself
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Negader: let's start over, yeah? 
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i want to install it.  and  i don't want it to install something by itself.  i guess that i rather want to control what i want to upgrade.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, I'm giving full information in the next message
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Negader: go to my website (finger fiendish) and see what it says. There are two ways to update. One way is easier. One way gives you more control.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ok i see two download options.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the installer is easier, because it upgrades code files without changing configuration settings or saved data. but the old unzip method is still there
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (technically if you look around more you'll see 4 download options)
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: In my opinion, there's no reason NOT to use the installer.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no matter how you choose to upgrade, please quit mushclient first
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: so, you understand what i'm looking for, which link is best for me? :)
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I *think* that I understand that you want the old .zip archive and not an installer that automatically chooses which files to update?
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: nod fiendish
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: go to https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/unzip_upgrading.html
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you are VI and use a screen reader, you might want the download on the left. otherwise you will want the download on the right
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Negader: What exactly are you not wanting to upgrade? Really, all that the installer does is write the newer core files, does not touch any of your stuff (so settings, triggers, plugins, aliases, etc. remain the same). The only thing that really changes are the core files and the application version itself.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: though I suppose that if you're VI and use a screen reader then left and right might not be so helpful
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe someone who knows better can help me with that one
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ok thank you. i think you've helped me.  i will give it a shot with the one you suggested.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean, if you've modified my plugins, those will get replaced
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Just a note, though. With the upgrade, if you're using S&D, you'll need to get the fix from either Nokfah or Starling.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which is why I tell people not to do that
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: If you're going to modify core files, then just create your own plugin. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: though I'll be honest...I'm surprised to hear that the ascii map in 1803 was enabling rdesc tags
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't think I added that until later
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this almost sounds like a mixed up install
T3/r7/2017-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: bits from here and there
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ok looks good guys. thank you for your help.   You are currently using Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: r1944
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yay
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: so some areas aren't triggering valid runtos in s&d, how would i go about fixing these?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: as usual u need describe cexit for enter in area
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i got it figured out, thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freddie Tech: HELP!! I have been transferring files from one computer to another and have lost all my explored areas on the mapper. ANyone know what I have mucked up, or what I am missing? Thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: you should be able to port over your db file and it should fix it.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freddie Tech: oh right WHats the db file called and where will I find it?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merelii Tech: it should be called 'aardwolf.db' in your mushclient folder. you will have backups in the 'aardwolf db backups' folder if you can't find it
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freddie Tech: ok thatnks I'll have look!! Cheers M!!
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freddie Tech: hey guys - sorry to bother you - I have forgotten - what is the file/s that let you type cpc and click on it to do the cps?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: WinkleWinkle_Search_Destroy.xml ?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freddie Tech: I'll try that thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: does the semicolon used in the game side alias get prempted by the clinet? the game side doesn't seem to want to recognize multiple commands in an alias
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You have to double them up to use them.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: alias test say one;;say two;;say three
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Or you can start the line with a semicolon and just use one.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: ;alias test say one;say two;say three
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: many thnaks
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: How do i enable the botmode?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think we already know the answer
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You have to ask Lasher that question. He's the only one with that special command.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just press numpad 0 once you added hook for that key
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Pfft, like my bot was in Mush :P
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but having mushclient sources avail, it would be theoretical possible to rewrite mush in something more portable
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Wouldn't matter. You wrote it. It'd fail in any client. *srun*
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not likely
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think if you rewrote mushclient to be more portable, it would need to end up being at least a little bit different
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I thought about using QT ?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however I wonder whethet it is possible to do that in small steps
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there is in theory some kind of conversion tool that might get part of the way there
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: even if you had the source trying to rewrite it all in QT would be a nightmare. Projectst aht don't start with consdieration for portability will often never have any.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OTOH for PC without Windows or Mac one can just use Wine 
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: right
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: Aye, works just fine in wine for me
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and it does work rather well in wine
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and I am not really sure whether QT version could be easily ported to Android
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I believe there is an experimental wine for android
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but you still need an x86 cpu
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know why
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably for dlls
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: in the past Wine was just using dlls, and WINE Is Not Emulator
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it at least means you could use mushclient on an intel chromebook though
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it just executes code natively, or something like that
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or something like that
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also "clients" shows that there are just 20 or less phone players
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I am playing on my rotary phone
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems that such rewrite should be added to Dead Ideas :P
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OTOH having mush for Android could attract more phone players to mud
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you'd need an entirely different program
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nothing about how mushclient works would make sense on a phone
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but I guess if you strip away the entire UI, only allow plugins and no world aliases or triggers, then you could end up with something like blowtorch that supports most of the MUSHclient API
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that could be pretty neat
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'd love for someone to take on that project
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is blowtorch open source ?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HomerSimpson Tech: it's abandonware
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know. You could message Nocilis and ask.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: abandonware is not a real legal category
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I assume he wouldn't mind freeing the source if someone were interested.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: given that he wasn't monetizing blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HomerSimpson Tech: hmm, maybe it would be an interesting from scratch project to do a mud client otherwise... 
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think any new client should try to implement as much of the commonly used MUSHclient API as possible
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as I have 0 android knowledge I wonder whether it is possible to have common "core" mush for both Android and PC
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: but the MUSH api has gross syntax
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think the syntax is fine except for the australian spelling of Color
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: It's possible Trachx, but it would require maintaining 3 projects. The core, the desktop, and the mobile
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is not realistic
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: well, considering most of the functionality is in the core (or plugins - depending on the approach), having two visual interfaces would probably be the easy part
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there are only 2 real deficiencies in mushclient. Miniwindows functions are too low level without a higher level interface, and text substitution is hard to get generically right.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Or the core could simply take a HTML page defining the layout.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've just about solved the second one
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: miniwindow functions are still too low level
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: any other problems with mushclient are because of not having the greatest documentation for things like what number are you supposed to send_to in a plugin trigger if you want to send to world
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and then a few minor technical deficiencies that could easily be corrected, like not being able to overlay hotspots and have both receive signals
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (this is why the health bars can't be dragged from inside the gauges)
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, I never liked the integer magic there. There didn't appear to be a curried mapping anywhere to refer to by strings, it was just a "well...know it"
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: The XML uses magic strings elsewhere, not sure why they didn't add support for send_to="world", etc
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh yeah, the XML chain is another thing that isn't documented well about plugins.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I had a bug earlier this year where I had to change "%c" to "%%c", because apparently %c in the trigger XML <send> section is replaced with the contents of the clipboard
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, I remember that one. I think I was the one who pointed it out. Was super weird.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Wait, it literally inserts the clibpoard register?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Lmfao, that's hillarious
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Offense Cheezburger . o O ( Seems like a potential sanitization issue )
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: Does MUSH have a clipboard API?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It does.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You can set things to the Clipboard, and pull things from it.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: So they must use %c as a magic substitution to do that
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Maybe. I haven't looked deeply into the functions, though.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Offense Cheezburger Tech: it's a VI throwback :P https://wiki.vifm.info/index.php?title=How_to_copy_path_to_current_file/directory_to_system_clipboard
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: I wonder why S&D added the resize widget, but didn't implement resizing.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Maybe it was a feature he planned on adding, but never did?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grannie Killene Tech: so how is the new update going --last time I did it took me hours to try and correct the problems which didn't correct.  So I went back to old version
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Starling's done a pretty good job of maintaining it.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Thanks, Arcidayne.  I'd forgotten Starling was maintaining it.  I'll try out the new version, although, looking at the code, it also doesn't appear to implement resizing.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ylar goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: maybe I'll make some changes >.>
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: submit changes back to maintainer rather than yet another version out there though :-)
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: starling's still figuring out how to implement some stuff...but while it may not resize, it *should* prevent you from getting it offscreen like people used to do all the time (requiring xset reset gui to fix)
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Oh, don't worry.  Fragmentation over the presence of resizing functionality would be ridiculous.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone used a wifi repeater for game consoles? my wifi doesn't quite reach well enough to my bedroom where my ps4 is, and running an ethernet cable is not easily done without it looking like crap, so curious how well these repeaters work
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: How far is your bedroom from the router?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Gameplay is often better wired anyway.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: As in, WiFi<-->WiFi<-->Console (wireless connection)?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: they work pretty well, though they will cut your bandwidth in half. might be worth looking in to a powerline adapter.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruoff Tech: not for a gaming system but I use it for our wifi TV.....workes pretty well..only thing that annoys me is every once in a while I have to reestablish the link for it to work.....bandwidth hurts thought
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: its probably 50 feet, and 3 walls between the two
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Doubt it's 50 feet. Most houses are barely 50 feet wide.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruoff Tech: a mesh wifi system is great but costly...fixes the lost of speed issue though you experience with a repeater
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I know wired is optimal, I'm looking for asthetics and function
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I was very unimpressed with wifi repeater, but was using it to stream music. powerline extenders worked better for me, lower bandwidth wasn't much of an issue, connection more stable
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I have a mesh system right now
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruoff Tech: now do you like that Pleiades....been thining about upgrading based on the setup being more optimal for deadzones etc
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruoff Tech: how rather*
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I wouldn't use a repeater for console. I'd suck it up and run the ethernet along the baseboards. It won't look like crap, especially if you tether it down.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I do like it
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Is there insulation, or lots of metal between the rooms?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I bought google's system
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: brick house, lots of concrete
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: but it works well
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I used to run 25 feet of Ethernet just to play my system wired in either my bedroom or the living room. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruoff Tech: installation easy enough?  stable connection no matter where ya are etc? 
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: yeah, I havent had any problems
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: you can access it remotely
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: my main router before that was a dark knight
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruoff Tech: the one just called google mesh wifi? 
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I just like how easy this is
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: you can buy 1 or 3
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruoff Tech: its only 125?  or have to add more to it? 
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: https://store.google.com/product/google_wifi
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: that's for oen
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruoff Tech: is that the cost for each connection point? 
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: one*
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: a 3-pack is $289
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I definitely don't regret the purchase
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I had to step out mid converversation, sorry about that, however, its not just a matter of running it along the baseboards, I either need to drill holes in the wall and run it along the exterior wall outside, which includes over my front door, or along base boards accross several doorways and stairs  to get it to my bedroom. 
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: Have you thought about rebooting the system?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: My gateway?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: definitely
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I have not recently, but my phone and laptop pick up enough wifi down there to work perfectly fine, the playstation even works enough to use for netflix pretty reliably, just cant get enough for gaming. 
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: resetaard isnt working ! Help !
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: "there is no layout within aardwolf"
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: or try just closing your browser and if it ask if want to save say no
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Ok, maybe a dumb question - are you using Mushclient? If so, are you using the Aardwolf package of mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I'd imagine they'd have to be in order to get the error message of 'there is no layout in aardwolf'
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That sounds more like a social failing to find a target.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: yes, no. I have just found a download of the package and will try that, thanks.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, but aardreset isn't a social, and there would have to be a target of layout.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Question... Are you typing aardreset by itself? not aardreset layout, just aardreset
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: aardreset
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: aardreset
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: aardreset That is not a command. Type 'Commands' for a complete list.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: did you try closing and reopening your browser, or if most of your windows are from bast's plugins you can try plugins reset bast
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: not aardreset, do resetaard
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Wait, you just said you're not using the Aardwolf MUSHclient... aardreset doesn't work on vanilla Aard...
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Ah yeah, resetaard. I don't even use that command myself.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PurpleWasp Tech: ok, thank, got it working
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: what got it working?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Probably resetaard. Haha.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: lol which I said when he first asked, i said xset resetaard then corrected myself to not use xset
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: lol LIke I never listen to advise and follow it, no no not me I wouldnt do that
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: Problem solved with the internet connection for those who were helping me earlier, had a bit of a "DOH" moment and solved all my problems rather simply lol
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Care to share how?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I moved my gateway into the bedroom :P
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: ...
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: computer closer to router?
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: ps4 is.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: That was his aim.
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: nod arcidayne
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: and computers all work fine at the same distance the ps4 would not
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: actually hardwired the ps4 since its right next to it, so its as good as it gets, 150mb/s download speeds
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I couldn't get a solid 1l
T3/r7/2017-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: clearly the PS4 built in wifi adapter isn't as good as a laptop, my laptop still getting 15 mb/s which is plenty 
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: what spellup plugin do you guys recommend for mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: the bast one
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: why is my s&d spamming "min max: 0 300" at me every time i take a campaign?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: no idea
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: thats the exact message?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yes, without the quotes
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: also doing it upon killing anyone in the cp list
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: does it like 23 times
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: wis there an easy way to get the item id of an item you remove ?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heliar Tech: invmon I think
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: i can use that, is there a way to check if its enabled ?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Well, Abelinc. I found the time and made the change I wanted.  Thanks for suggesting I submit back...I've never actually used Git before, so that was interesting!
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: I wonder what Starling will think, haha
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: Guys is there a way to check if invmon is enabled or not through a plugin?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: hmm, one way is to send the tag command twice to enable invmon. then have a trigger to capture if it's on.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: its not listed in tag though
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: guess he means, toggle invmon....if it returns the off message, resend it, if it returns the on message....well its on, so there you go
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: that could work however i don't see an enable message for some reason
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: have to track the plugin that omits it i guess
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello hello. mushclient questions answered
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: Can you make the borders on mushclient pink? No, wait. Salmon. Chartreuse. Ugh, I can't decide.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: so the only way to get access to wildcards[0] is to call a function from my alias? I can't do it all self contained in the alias send to itself?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Might help if you give an example/snippet of what you're actualy doing
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: just to make an alias that has access to all supplied parameters so I can echo it back as a test currently
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: for instance if you wanted to make an alias that replaced gossip command (you don't know how many params will be supplied)
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: basicaly work as a macro for gossip?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: sortof again this was just an example I just want to be able to type alias blah blah blah and have access to the "blah blah blah" data
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You're being vague, and it's not helpful.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: so I was asking if it's necessary to make a seperate function my alias calls or if there's a more elegant way to get the information within the alias itself
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: search for %0 on https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=aliases
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I don't know how I could be more clear?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You could tell us precisely what you're trying to do?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Fiendish problem with %0 is it includes the alias itself, I would have to string manipulate to remove it
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Arcid: If you scroll up I've explained what I'm trying to do several times
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: it is extremely basic
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Rather this way, is it important to seperate each word/string/whatever really into its own 'parameter?'
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: That's easy enough to do.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: ie: if I type myalias blah blah 1 2 3 and use %0 it will give me "myalias blah blah 1 2 3" but what I really want is the arguments only "blah blah 1 2 3" I was told I could do this using wildcards[0] but I have to build a seperate function to do so unless I am misunderstanding the docs
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Pwar: So what you're trying to do is take (for example) say one two three and have it do say one, say two, say three?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: because if you do "Alias Gos *' then what ever is after gossip is inclused in the '%1'
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods at MidKnight Gladacus.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: it's not though Gladacus
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: %1 only returns the first argument
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No it doesn't.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: If you don't have regex set, then it returns everything after gossip.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: it returns the entire string
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Now if you had gossip * * *, then yes, %1 will only return the first argument.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: They're correct. Alias of "^gossip (.*?)^" would match everything you send, by referring to %1
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: well that is weird I must have been using a regex before because %1 wasn't doing more than one arg
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well except the last "^" would be  "$"
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Then you had it matching non whitespace characters only
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: * or (.*?) will match everything until the end of the line
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: very strange thanks though, I couldn't understand why it was so difficult to reference just the args when aliases are basically designed for that purpose!
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You must have had another * in there
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Because MUSH dictates that they be non-greedy, it'll match 1 character (or any number until a space) and then %2 would be all the rest
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: if you want sometthing with 2 args....can just add some form of divider between the two....eg "example *, *"....
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Alias: "testAlias * *" --> "testAlias gossip testing a long phrase" would result in %1 = "gossip" %2 = "testing a long phrase"
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: so a double *,makes the previous one match from begging of line/last whitespace to end of line/next whitespace?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So you need to read it in reverse.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The first one matches until the 2nd one matches, and the 2nd one matches anything
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The only stipulation is that they are separated by a space "* *", so once it reaches that space, the first one is done, and the second one takes the rest.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: So....* * * Matching one two three four....%1 = one, %2 = two and %3 = three four?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Correct
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: nice to know
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The only reason this works is because MUSH converts "*" to the non-greedy regex of "(.*?)"
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: if it converted it to simply "(.*)" i think the functionality would be that %1 would have everything period
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: hmm I am trying to reload my script as I work on it and shift+control+r and the menu bar option "Reload Script File" do not seem to accomplish it, I have to reload mush atm. Am I doing it wrong or is it because I'm in wine maybe?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: man someone make a scrabble word finder for aard so i can put in ALL my tiles
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: all these sites only let you put in 12 letters
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i found one
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: any idea why s&d is returning "Trigger function "xcp_index_line" not found or had a previous error." when cp checking?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: any help with s&d?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Click the thing.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: (In other words, need way more info)
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: obviously :) getting the error Trigger function "xcp_index_line" not found or had a previous error. when i cp check
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's not the problem, that's just the symptom. Reinstall the plugin and try again, and watch for the real error.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfhoundjes Tech: For me it was a missing date column.
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: did that repeatedly now, haven't seen any other symptoms
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you're getting errors about date being missing, you're using a VERY old version of S&D
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: it installs just fine, but won't populate a list, just repeats that error
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: in mush how do I make my last sent command stay in the window
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Press alt-0, check "Auto Repeat Command" box on the right
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: any other ideas metria as for how to debug this thing? figure out what the problem is?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: S&D?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: Trigger function "xcp_index_line" not found or had a previous error. when i cp check
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Maruxus it sounds like you have an old version of s&d
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I had a similar issue
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: nope...just got the newest update
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: did you reinstall the plugin?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yes i reinstalled it, repeatedly
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: nothing interesting
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Which version do you have? v2.8 or v1.3.3?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: 1.3.3
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: is that 'xcp_index_line' exactly what it referenced?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: copy/paste
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: When you say you've reinstalled it, how are you doing that?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: plugins screen, reinstall, worked fine, plugins screen, remove, add, worked fine, rinse and repeat so i could verify
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: And you don't get a different error?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: that's the only error
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Did you try restarting mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: I was thinking of the GUI (spent a lot of facetime with that code recently, lol)
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: a few times
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: can we upgrade to tier 2 customer support?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: are you removing all three when you try to reinstall it?
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sure, pay me a few TP and you can contact WinkleWinkle for support. (He's actually tier 2)  Unfortunatley he's been offline for 503 days :P
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: that i didn't do...one sec
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: mwah! it was something in the extender, well played ylar
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: yeah, the xcp_index_line seemed weird, til I parsed the other two and realized it was the extender
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: ahh, you weren't just guessing
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: more like grepping
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I made a joke
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: you may receive a survey from us tomorrow, to evaluate Metria's helpfulness
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: tier 1 tech support, aok, 3/5
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Came up with the right answer first try (reinstall the plugin) 5/5  User didn't reinstall correct plugin, 5 TP fee assessed
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: lol metria, we'll go half way 4/5, didn't think to mention reinstalling all three, i did reinstall the plugin i thought was having problems
T3/r7/2017-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'll take it :D
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: who wants to help me with something?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkened Tech: What ya need?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I need an aardwolf mushclient package user to drop these three dlls in a copy of their mushclient folder https://ci.appveyor.com/project/fiendish/lua-openssl/build/artifacts
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: then edit MUSHclient\lua\async.lua to import llthreads2 instead of llthreads
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and then start up that mushclient and make sure it loads
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkened Tech: I'll give it a whirl.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkened Tech: So far, so good.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: baller
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkened Tech: anything I should be keeeping an eye out for?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: is there an easy way to iterate through a string character by character in lua?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: none of these examples work, i get '=' expected near <eof> on every one
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: not even going to pretend like I know what you're talking about...
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Kash, still here?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: oh Fiendish. i still have the old mush from 2 years ago but just in case - i had a crash and this ruined my plugins somehow. is the newest build safe against crashes?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: define "safe against crashes". If you mean less likely to crash? Then I would say probably yes.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: thought to get the new version but didn't have the time today again:)
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: updating to the newest version is a much simpler process than the old ones
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: no, win crashed. and took mush with it
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh, I see
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's unfortunate
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure that MUSHclient can do much to help with that
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: yeah.. dunno. my win crashes in each 3 days or so but this time it mush couldnt handle. so, whatever happened, its rare.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wow
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: crashing every 3 days is very extreme
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i have an ancient soundcard. no updates for drivers. 
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: have you checked to see if maybe some hardware driver has an update available?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nuts
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: that sounds like a hardware failure or corrupt windows files
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it could be all kinds of things
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: nod
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I once had a hard drive cable that had...somehow...mysteriously come just exactly loose enough to sometimes disconnect from vibrations by the fan
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: that must of been pain to fix:)
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: must HAVE*
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: damn
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jurus Tech: when windows start crashing that often, its possible your hard drive is going bad
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i dont have proof but my guts tell me its the sound card:)
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: it sometimes switches the input order and sometimes start to produce weird noises also
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: celebrity: if that's the case, disable your sound card complete in device manager, if it still crashes it is highly unlikely it is the soundcard
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: if you can go without sound for a bit to narrow it down that is
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i will do that when going to buy a new one some day. 
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: my money would be on bad harddrive, bad ram, or corrupt windows files
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: my wifi service in my hotel room is awful. how do you guys fix it? is it something as simple as getting a room closer to the repeater?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zhalut: you can't always fix that
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: by awful. 400ms pings to google.com
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yuck
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: overused routers is often the problem
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I know that feeling zhalut :(
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sometimes hotels just don't have enough capacity for the number of tenants
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: oh good point. maybe bandwidth. i feel like it got faster when i moved in the room
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can of course try asking for a different room, but your computer/phone should give a reasonably reliable indicator of the signal strength to noise ratio
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I'm in the room down the hall downloading torrents
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and if it says you have a strong signal but it's not working, then moving probably won't help
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: okit must be bandwidth then :( i was surprised to see a text-based game run slow
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: will going wired increase speed? i have to buy an adapter to test it
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: almost always
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: A lot of times, routers sort of throttle the speed. For instance, I had 60Mbps plan, but on my router, I was seeing 25Mbps.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Once I wired it, though, I got the full 60.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: who here wants to help me with something
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: sup?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: drop these DLLs in a copy of your mushclient folder and then edit MUSHclient\lua\sync.lua to import "llthreads2" instead of "llthreads" https://ci.appveyor.com/project/fiendish/lua-openssl/build/artifacts
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and then see if it starts up without errors
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: sure
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also maybe do a package update check
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: haven't got a lua\sync.lua
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type checkversion please
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I'll do it. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: r1825
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Is it 'sync.lua' or 'async.lua'?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: async
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Okay, will test it in just a second, then.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: pfft, async i have
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: hold on
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: hm...couple startup errors but this is it
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: Invalid recoveries line:36,Sacrifice
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: Invalid recoveries line: ,0
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: uh
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: could be unrelated
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: probably is
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: does that happen often?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i've got some bast plugins here
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: idk, lemme see if it's doing it on the other version
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: didn't get those errors here
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: so it was your change
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: wierd eh
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: can you try restarting it?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: sure, i'll do it again
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: same exact two errors on startup, one second
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I didn't get any errors on my end.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Gonna test my Melvin plugin that utilizes async, too.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, no error, gonna restart just to double check.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Working perfectly fine.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: oh, my mistake, think i've fixed it, one sec
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh good
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maruxus your os version is?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: wine on ubuntu
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: and no..didn't fix it, still same two errors
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: idk
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well I don't think this has anything to do with recoveries triggers, so I'm going to call it unrelated
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: oh wait...that looks like bast's spellup font though
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: alright, done with test?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: thank you both
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: np
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wonder if I can find someone who still uses XP
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Too bad there's not an "os list" like we have for clients and domains.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it would be pretty handy. I wonder if I can detect it and send it with the client string
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Don't see why not.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: \\\print(GetInfo(77))
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Came up blank for me.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok let's try the next ones
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Game On! Rezit Tech: Keep up the good work Fiendish!
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: \\\print(GetInfo(265)) through \\\print(GetInfo(268))
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: 6, 2, 9200, 2, in order.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm. docs say that should be windows 8
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I'm on Windows 10, so... :\
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: you can spin a vm with xp if you wish. nice guide here http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-windows-xp-for-free-and-legally-straight-from-microsoft-si/
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I am aware
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I dislike downloading and keeping around many gigabytes of otherwise useless VMs for things like this
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the windows 10 VMs are like 20GB
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Eh, I'd just run it off a USB, barebones.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I was running Windows XP, Windows 7, 8, and 10 off a USB drive for a while.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: There's even MiniXP.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh for crying out loud
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "Windows 1010.0*"
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "* For applications that have been manifested for Windows 8.1 or Windows 10. Applications not manifested for Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 will return the Windows 8 OS version value (6.2)."
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wtf
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Good god MSFT, get it together
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I think it's because it's the same architecture. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Still using quite an old S&D script in a old-ish mush release....anything that you need to type to 'start' the script? As is, gives me an error when trying to to run somewhere via it
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: now I just have to figure out how to make a manifest from the command line
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: an error is usually a sign that you might benefit from upgrading
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Lol, kinda used my firewall to block all but mush....tends to eat through 100 mbs of data within 2 seconds if i drop it
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: have you tried to unplug and plug in your power cable?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 100mbs in 2 seconds sounds like there is some other big issue on your computer!
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: to copy error -> Plugin: WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender_2_8 (called from world: Aardwolf)  Function/Sub: xrun_to called by alias   Reason: processing alias ""  no such column: r.date_added
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I like that people are still encountering that because of how long they go between upgrades
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: when it works it works
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that error goes away if you upgrade
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "You should not rely upon only the VER_SUITE_SMALLBUSINESS flag to determine whether Small Business Server has been installed on the system."
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "If you upgrade this installation to Windows Server, Standard Edition, the VER_SUITE_SMALLBUSINESS_RESTRICTED flag will be clearedhowever, the VER_SUITE_SMALLBUSINESS flag will remain set. In this case, this indicates that Small Business Server was once installed on this system. "
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "If you upgrade this installation to Windows Server, Standard Edition, the VER_SUITE_SMALLBUSINESS_RESTRICTED flag will be clearedhowever, the VER_SUITE_SMALLBUSINESS flag will remain set. In this case, this indicates that Small Business Server was once installed on this system. "
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Meh, got a 'newer' version of mush lying around somewhere in there
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's weird. for some reason pasting that line crashes mushclient for me
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I assume it's a wine bug
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but now I have to test.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus peers intently at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Well...any quick way to get that script to work?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: update it
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well...damn.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if I copy and paste a particular line out of firefox into mushclient, it crashes. if I paste it into vs code first and then copy that and paste it into mushclient then it's fine
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyone want to test something for me?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: what you need fiendish one?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: go to https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms724833(v=vs.85).aspx
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: then copy the sentence that starts "If you upgrade..."
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sorry, copy that sentence and the next one also
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: then paste them into a channel here
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: If you upgrade this installation to Windows Server, Standard Edition, the VER_SUITE_SMALLBUSINESS_RESTRICTED flag will be clearedhowever, the VER_SUITE_SMALLBUSINESS flag will remain set. In this case, this indicates that Small Business Server was once installed on this system. If this installation is further upgraded to Windows Server, Enterprise Edition, the VER_SUITE_SMALLBUSINESS flag will remain set.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: still have that version with the new DLLs sitting around?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: just restored
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: what's up?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think it could be the replacement lua dll causing the crash, and that makes me sad
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but I don't understand why it makes a difference where I copy from
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: different clipboards behaving slightly differently?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Meh, love it....somehow, update snd....error goes away but cp targets for some reason, aint showing in miniwin
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I need a mushclient user on windows 10 again
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: who was saying they had a script to find all your portals and put them into mapper portals for you?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: neat script
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: might like to see that one
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: someone has one im sure of it
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Never seen it.  The time to make it is probably more than the time to just manually add them, especially for someone who already has most in them :)  YOu could use my equipment plugin to get halfway there though.  Can grab a list of all the portals from teh spreadsheet and save a bit of work.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Make sure to use an alias for wear/unwearing portal though, and have that alias be called by mapper portal.  Saves a lot of trouble!
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I think there is a guide on how to do that somewhere.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yeah, that's definitely easiest way
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea i do, i just thought someone was saying they had made that script at some point. i dont need it its for a friend
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ill just do them manually
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: anyone got the trigger line for invdata lying around?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: help invdata
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Was more looking for regexp
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: match="^{invdata\s*(?&lt
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: [0-9]{10},[KMGH]*,(.*?),[0-9]{1,3},[0-9]{1,2},[0-9],-?[0-9],-?[0-9]
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: [match="^{invdata\s*(?&lt
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: ;; to send ;
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: ACK
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: So....does that work with the usual %1 %2 sytem?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you wrap the parts in ()
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: So how would that look?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Revisiting the old portal script i started like a year or two ago
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: ([0-9]{10}),([KMGH]*),(.*?),([0-9]{1,3}),([0-9]{1,2}),([0-9]),(-?[0-9]),(-?[0-9])
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amazonite passes out...
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And honestly that regex is strict enough you shouldn't need to trigger/detrigger off of {invdata} {/invdata}
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Just gonna gag the tags either way
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I mean you could also just do *,*,*,*,*,*,*,*, but that's much less strict :P
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: but if all else fails, its a good place holder and how many lines ever have so many ',s'
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: invmon stuff would probably trigger the less strict one :P
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: amusingly, that did not match when i pasted it into a trigger
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I'm not guaranteeing it 100%, i whipped that up on the fly :P
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Something is a miss in there, lol, didnt even match 1 item out of the 50+ i have loose in inv
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: let me try again :P
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Oh wait, I found it
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: change "10" to "9"
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: i mis-counted the number of digits in objectId
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: still something out, lol
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger grumbles and growls. You wonder what's wrong...
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, matched for me :P
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: can I get the line again?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: ^([0-9]{9,10}),([KMGH]*),(.*?),([0-9]{1,3}),([0-9]{1,2}),([0-9]),(-?[0-9]),(-?[0-9])$
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Matched every time for me doing {9,10} for the object ID
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: missed the start and end symbols
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Even caused a segfault because I stupidly did #showme %0
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: likely that was the issue
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Shouldn't have mattered. Those just say line has to start there, and end there
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: They make it more strict, not less
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: meh
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: helps if i tick regexp
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: oh, yeah, that'll help :P
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: still, some random exceptions....
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Got a specific one?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: like my horn of the ancestors, jewelery box, a skinned cloak
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I mean the invdata line, sorry.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: 2356164,KMGH,a Jewelry Box,190,20,0,-1,-1
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, that should match
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: oh wait
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Your jewelry box is OLD
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it has less objectID digits
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So maybe for safety change {9,10} to {7,10}
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: That's why you use \d+...
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: nah, stricter regexp == better
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Not always.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: another example 1637579985,KIM,a black flowing robe of Death,199,7,0,-1,-1
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Besides, object ids can have only 1 digit.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: damn that dark blue colour code
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: ok, just change {9,10} to *
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It's rare, but it's still an option.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MidKnight Gladacus laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: And when 10 digits run out, you move on to 11 digits.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: nods, he just posted an 11 digit
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: isnt it more of that (*?) type then?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So in this case, yeah just open the regex up for the id
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Nah, you literally just change "{9,10}" to "*"
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: that cleared some, but still some mismatches, lol
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: 1356169582,KIM,a sequined mask,100,6,0,-1,-1
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, we can discount the object id being too long or short at least :P
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: kmgh needs i
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Ahh, good catch
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Yeah, thats the common denominator here
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Someone should make a regexp db somewhere for these moment
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: so change ([KGHM]*) to ([KGHMI]*)
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: yeah, that nailed it fully
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: nice
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: as a random tester, had it printing item ids and gagging the actual invdata, made it easy to see the odd ones
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: anyone want to help try out my new plugin?
T3/r7/2017-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: any windows 10 mushclient user around want to help me with something?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: how demanding is it?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not very
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ok, whats up?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: first, type \\\print(GetInfo(265))
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: 6
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: great. ok, make a copy of your mushclient folder, and replace MUSHclient.exe in it with this one https://ci.appveyor.com/api/buildjobs/8v3usy25odq7o70v/artifacts/MUSHclient.exe
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: hrm... lol
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: then start up that mushclient and do the same
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ok one sec
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: 10
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: too many mushclients open
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: is that it? that mushclient did not like my plugins AT ALL
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: OR my mapper db :p
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why, what did it say?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: script parsing errors and then db integrity check failed
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish whistles appreciatively.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: show me one of the script errors
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: can of worms, anyone?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: hrm
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the db error I'm not worried about because you probably copied the folder while mushclient was open
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: it was a dialog box that said Line 77: Script parsing error something something else
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Wht does the GetInfo(265) number represent?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: major version number for the OS
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: wasnt very descriptive
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hearb Tech: off
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: it didnt even say what script
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but windows 10 misreports its version info if the application requesting it doesn't have a manifest
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which is stupid but fixable
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: and windows defender didnt like that mushclient either :p
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: is that intentional for like some sort of cheezy backwards compat?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: pwar: It's intentional. I honestly have no idea why
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm more interested in hearing about what windows defender did
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: was it just a "this is from the internet" warning?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: nah chrome did that one
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: lemme see if its in the log
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Trojan//Fiendish.Win32 detected?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: haha nah it was just a generic message
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: ;D
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i can open it again and see it might do it again
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe try quitting mushclient before making the folder copy? that should get rid of some of your messages
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i did :p
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, I'm encouraged to hear that you got 10 instead of 6 on the replacement
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i didnt even copy the folder just closed mush, copied new one and started it
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because 10 is what you _should_ be getting, which means my manifest worked
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea Line 77: Script parsing error (Cannot load) was the exact error, there was about 15 of them
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'll need more of the message than that
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: thats all there was, it was a dialog box and thats every word it said
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: is it possible mushclient.exe is running from the wrong folder or something?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it depends
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i kept a copy of that .exe so i can look into it more later but would want to actually make a copy of my mush folder before i do
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: did the database format change since 4.98?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 4.98 is not a meaningful value
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I deal only in package revisions
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: well i dont remember how to get the aardmush build
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: checkversion
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: im on r1825
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the database format changed last in...uhh...
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i want to say it was changed right before this version
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: or fairly shortly before
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: but idk if its been changed since since i never update
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish is really good about the mapper script being able to update absolutely ancient database files
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't load a new db file in an older MUSH package version (since it wouldn't understand anything), but an old mapper db file should just update the db schema on first load in a newer MUSH package version
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wait, why do we need to know when it last changed?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i was wondering if thats why it failed integrity
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the integrity check is a pragma that has nothing to do with table layout
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: hrm, then idk why it would have failed :(
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you copied your mushclient folder?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i copied the exe into my mushclient folder :p
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: after making a backup of the old exe
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what did you do with your old one?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I see
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so you used your old folder but put in the new exe?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and you moved the old exe somewhere safe
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and you got a bunch of errors??
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well that's pretty bad
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: integrity check and the script parse error, but that could have just been one thing maybe?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mmmmm
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't thiiiiink so?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: idk it popped up like 15 times and never said a filename or anything
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: did you compile this from source?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but the source hasn't changed. it's the same source as your old one, just with a manifest embedded
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: does it work properly on non win10?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: really? how big is this manifest?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ive got about 400kb difference between the 2 exes
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it looks like this: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/fiendish/mushclient/exe-manifest/MUSHclient.exe.manifest
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 400kb seems kinda big
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea thats tiny
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: new exe smaller by 400kb?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: nah bigger
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: oh that's weird
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: seems like whatever mt.exe does it makes the exe fat
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: that exe is version 5.1 mine is 4.98
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: that could be too
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nah, seems pretty unlikely
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's not actually version 5.1
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: oh its not?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's 5.06-pre
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: lying in a manifest... sounds like a crime punishable by death :p
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: version numbers are kinda silly anyway
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: the way people use them sometimes is silly
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if I had a release department I'd put them right next to my QA department
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: hmm well I'm running that version you posted in debian with no issues
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wine reliably does not lie about the major version though
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which I suppose I should report to them as a bug
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wonder what the bug report title should be
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Wine irresponsibly tells the truth about OS version?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Wine Is Not Equivocating
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oooh
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43999
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: already a comment ;D
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I replied to the comment
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I think I found an aardmapper bug
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: 'mapper showroom' a roomid that doesn't exist, then mapper goto a room that does exist, and for me it bombs
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: says findpath is getting a nil value, which makes sense if the mapper showroom roomid doesn't exist in the db.  Anyone else get that?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I don't get exactly that behavior.  If I do "mapper showroom 100000", nothing is sent to the output but the mapper window is blank.  If I then try to goto another room, it fails because it doesn't know from what room I'm starting
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: same for me
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm using mush r1944 by the way
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: latest version for me
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: "attempt to index a nil value" is the error message I get, followed by the traceback
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Nope, I don't see that error.  Must be related to S&D :P
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the mapper should be exactly the same from snapshot to snapshot, according to Fiendish it hasn't been updated in a while
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is it possible your db is slightly corrupted?  Just for kicks, you might want to do a separate fresh install and see if you can reproduce the bug there.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I doubt it, although when you mess with it using an sql database editor while mush is running, who knows what can get broken.  No corruption evident though.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is it possible your db is slightly corrupted?  Just for kicks, you might want to do a separate fresh install and see if you can reproduce the bug there.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: hm, deja vu
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Wait, let's do something repeatable that isn't dependent on exits
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's a glitch in the matrix, it means they changed something
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I started at recall, did showroom 100000, and then did goto 32419
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: that's the room 1 south of recall
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: lol, deja vu is right :p  whoops :)
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Anyone here familiar with matlab?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Anyone here know how to deploy a matlab instance that could be accessible like an api?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: is it possible to request "where" data via gmcp?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: what do you mean pwar... the path to ?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: no, just like doing a where command, but data sent in background via gmcp
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: from what I've seen of that code I dont think it's possible... but not 100% sure
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: yeah I was looking through the GMCP doc for aard it doesn't show anything like that thought it might be undocumented thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jurus Tech: to note where you are and which room you are in, yes
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: you could trigger the usual where command, anyway
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: of course
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: was just trying to see if there was a more elegant way with gmcp :) thanks again
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: my pleasure
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone know of a plugin to predict the moon cycles (i.e., when three moons will occur)?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bast has one.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone use bast moon plugin? i installed the mini window but i dont see a created window
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I do.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Type mb plot
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Plus, you need to be outside to see the three different moon cycles.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: oh, does it take awile for the the window to appear? The cycle of one or more moons is unknown.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You need all three moons for it to predict for you.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If you hand outside for the next 20 or so ticks, it should give you information.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: aha, so the window doesnt create until all three moons are captured?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: correct
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zhalut gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: why is my mapper goto to darklight freaking out?  It loops through the cedria portal three times and then doesn't even make it to the area
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: whoa
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: runto a room in vidblain and it is endlessly looping through this portal, into vidblain, into portal, just no sense to this at all
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: like push off i  the water
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: why would mapper loop me through insanitaria portal, to vidblain, and back again over and over?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it makes no sense
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: maybe reset that portal?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: it sounds like some sort of speedwalk loop hidden in there
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'd double check the cexits for those two areas too just in case.  I might also temporarily restore an older DB just to see if the DB is corrupted in some way.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: and there is no easy wait function in mush, is there?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If you have the wait package installed, you can do wait.time(# seconds)
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: hm, it errors
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Oh wait (no pun intended) that's for co-routines.  That might not be what you are looking for.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Are you trying to add a delay between commands on the command line?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I think so
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if I can just force it to wait a second after entering the vidblain hole, and then figure out what room it's in before continuing on
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's random too, sometimes it goes to the target room just fine, no issues.  Try it again and it loops through insanitaria 20 or 30 times before arriving at the wrong room in the wrong area.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: and for some reason darklight is especially bad, it absolutely cannot find darklight to save its life
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: just makes no sense
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Weird.  Do you have all of vidblain explored?  I had problems a while back where I'd get dropped into a vidblain room I hadn't explored so the mapper would use a portal to bump me back to another area and try again.  That confused the heck out of me for a while :p
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The Vidblain exit is not set I thought.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: vidblain is a continent, so it is pre-mapped when you download the mapper
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: This was custom lua code I was playing with back then.  I was manually trying to get past vidblain
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what I think is going on is that it runs to the hole, enters hole, and then does mapper goto whatever room in whatever area, but in doing so it calculates the shortest path.  And it must think that it's in a different room than it actually is, and the cedria portal path through the hole comes up as shorter, so it runs that.  And then repeats until it either hits a wall, or gets close enough to the target zone that it finally runs to it
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Is the 'mapper goto' executing before you're actually finished moving?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Possibly, it's set up as a local function something or other and I haven't quite grasped those yet
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: well, no, it isn't
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: because I added tracking code to detect exactly that
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I could just get a sendhia portal and be done with it but I hate to spend 15 tps to bandaid a mapper glitch
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: will have to come back to this after dinner and i've had time to think it over, I suppose.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Why is it 'aard layout lock' and 'aard layout unlock' and 'resetaard' rather than 'aard layout reset'?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because resetaard came first and "layout lock aard" sounds dumb
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: rather "layoutlockaard"
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do you want an aard layout reset?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I do, but not enough to clone the repo and make a pull request.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you know Github now lets you do that entirely through the web interface now
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I didn't know that
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you just find the file you want to edit and click the edit button on it, and github automatically forks for you and makes a feature branch
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Damn, that's pretty nice. I'll have to take a look sometime.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and then when you're done with the edit it asks if you want to make a pull request
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: pretty handy for those small edits
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what is a pull request?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It usually requires $50
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: 50 dollars that you donate to the mud in my name so I get the tps?  sounds great, get on that asap :D
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: A pull request is where I clone Fiendish's git repository, make some edits, then request he pull those changes back into the main repo
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's essentially submitting a patch without having to actually generate diffs and send them.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I really wish it showed the room id after the room names when running, it would make it easier to trace where a speedwalk goes wrong.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: So script it.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that doesn't need to be in the mapper
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can detect the running state and emit room ids from a separate plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: easy peasy
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Using mushclient I want to create a trigger to beep when it's time to quest, what do I need to set the output to in order to accomplish this?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you don't need any output at all
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: basic triggers have an input section for loading a sound file
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: just need a beep file
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: function soundQuestTime()
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: end
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: a beep file is included
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's in MUSHclient\sounds
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: function soundQuestTime()
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: PlaySound(0, "qtime-3.wav", false, 0, 0)
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: end
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's the function I call from the "time to quest" message
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Using mushclient I want to create a trigger to beep when it's time to quest, what do I need to set the output to in order to accomplish this?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: deja vu
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Thank you I see it.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: glitch in the matrix
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: means they changed something
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Maruxus gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I guess I just delete the insanitaria portal, I can't seem to fix this
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hrm idk, i use my sendhia portal for vidblain
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: not sure if leaving insanitaria to vidblain drops you in a random room
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it does, because you have to go through the dark portal thing
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: idk what the dark portal thing is :p
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i never go to insanitaria
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: enter hole in 11910
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ah yea
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Insanitaria isn't in Vidblian, so you have to go through the dark portal to get there.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i see
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: does imperial nation have a portal?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: get yourself a sendhia portal :p
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Dark Crystal, yeah.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: or any portal for an area in vidblain, add it to mapper and problem solved
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: also, dont try to use a cexit for enter hole
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: itll go so wrong
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the cexit I have on 11910 does enter hole;wait 0.1;mapper goto 33571
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the idea behind the wait is it lets the gmcp info update, so when it does the mapper goto it should know where it is
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: can you do a mapper goto inside a mapper goto?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it doesn't matter that the landing room is random, because the script should be able to get that roomid and then figure the path from there to destination.  But it's getting fooled into thinking that portal is a shorter path, and that's causing it to loop
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: you can do mapper goto in a cexit, it works in Xyl to nullify the random landing room in the rock garden
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: What happens if you are a little lagged and gmcp doesn't update in 100ms?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it just needs a few x 0.1 seconds to update its location
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that happens so seldom it's not worth considering
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Instead of wait 0.1;mapper goto, why not enter hole; echo <some specific text here>, then trigger on that text and do the mapper goto there?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: idk i can just see nested mapper goto's going horribly wrong
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: but i didnt write it
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: without the wait, it will go to the wrong room
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's what the echo and trigger is for, silly. Works fine for me in my 'runto sendhia' alias.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I was answering the 'nested gotos going wrong' comment
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: screw it, I just deleted the offending portal
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: does the mapper count a cexit as one step, even if the cexit contains multiple commands?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: seems to
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I wonder if I could trick it into thinking going through the hole counts as 5000 steps or something
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ok, the problem seems to be originating from S&D extender's "vidblain assist" interacting badly with the insanitaria portal, but I think changing the commands to 'mapper walkto' may have fixed it, since 'mapper walkto' avoids the use of mapper portals.  We shall see.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I lost the "t" button of my keyboard
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: me too!
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: it is annoying
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Then you should have typed 'I los the "" buon of my keyboard
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Ack!
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I los he "" buon of my keyboard
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: should I buy a new laptop
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yes, and send your old one to me.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I might have to send it back to abelinc
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I took off the option key and put it where the T key was
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: How did you lose your T key?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I have no clue
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blurryeyed Tech: hi
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blurryeyed Tech: any lua experts around
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Better to ask the question.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blurryeyed Tech: well actually i found a workaround .. i just typed "prompt" and that stopped the prompt which stops the text to speech for the prompt
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I own some .com, .net, .org, .me, .mobi, .us, .tech, and .fyi domains
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: www.lastwordalways.arg ?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, .arg, that'd be a good one
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: aregentina?
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc #lastwordalways
T3/r7/2017-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling agrees!
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: does bast have an update for this opk qp count thingy?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: anyone see anything wrong with this line?  350*:             sPat = "[%w\-]+$"
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think this one is better: sPat = "[%w-]+$"
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: is that what the issue is?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: mush has a problem with that line somewhere
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: that was it apparently
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: we'll see if it works from here i guess
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: seems to be some other serious issues with this plugin :(
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what plugin?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: consider window
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: it worked for about 5 seconds lol
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: apparently its 8 years old
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it should still work
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea idk, dont feel like digging around in it to figure out why its not working
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: hold on, theres a space missing
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: nope still not updating the miniwindow
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: even if you type "con" ?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea, its supposed to update whenever you enter a room, just fixed the missing space for that trigger, and whenever you consider it should update or at least i think
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: does it populate window with mobs after you type con manually?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if so then you just need to turn "autocon" feature
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: no, its only populated twice and it was wrong both times
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: im not even sure why it updated those times
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: all the consider triggers are set to omit from output too and they havent once, i dont think theyre being enabled
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: where did you download it?  maybe I can take a look at it
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: tech https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=9681
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: btw that "con" is pretty annoying, so you could convert it to roomchars
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea thats basically what i want, or even just a single con when i enter a room that populates a miniwindow so i can see what all is in the room
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: idk this is supposed to have extra features like setting aliases 1-whatever to 'kill mob'
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, it has such feature
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: 1,2,3,4,5 etc
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: do you use it trachx?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no, but I used it severals years ago
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ah ok
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but IIRC you could just set 1 kill command
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea i think so, i just installed it though so im not sure yet, just want it to update the list first of all lol
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what mush version do you have?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: 4.98
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you want to do that right way - you need to process roomchars tags, then you also need to process kill messages to remove dead mobs from that window
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also nice to link that with mobs properties (like immune to light, immune to strangle) so you can attack (or skip those mobs) with proper skill
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: you're into mobdb territory at that point
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea thats basically the plugin i suggested to tol but he hasnt written it yet
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: the roomchars one at least
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: but roomchars has the long desc
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's ok
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you need to create mobdb
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you enter a room and process roomchars, lookup mob description in mobdb and load a mob keyword into window
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: this is why i download plugins instead of writing them myself :p
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if mob is not in db - you send con and then match roomchars with con output and load new items into db
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I just use file mobdata.lua which I require into my main script file
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i have 0 experience with dbs in mush, and i suck at lua
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: idk im going to bed, ill ask someone who actually uses this script how to make it work :p
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it is just lua tables containing entries like this:   ["A serving girl is carrying drinks."] = { k1 = "gir", o = "p4", L1 = 70, L2 = 85 },
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then either ask Starling to do the work for you :P or join clan that has some people writing plugins
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: where did you get the script
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=9681
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I don't mind doing the work if it removes clans' monopolies over good scripts :)
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: if you want to make me one id welcome it :p
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: but id prefer a db instead of lua tables if you do roomchars
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kash snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I work at amazon and am on 5x12 (60) hour work week right now so chances are I'll get a chance to glance over it right as I'm passing out from being tired
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I can't do sql at all at this point
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: just haven't found the right problem to let me break into it
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea i cant either thats my biggest issue with something like this
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: triggers arent much of an issue, nor is 95% of the script
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what does it do, exactly?  just take a snapshot of the room and give you a macro/alias to kill each one in turn?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: puts mobs in a miniwindow and then sets aliases for killing them
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea basically, apparently thats supposed to be a function of it anyway
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the hassle will be setting up the db, it always is because you have 230+ areas, with dozens to hundreds of mobs in each.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: id be happy with just having their names in a miniwindow as long as they got delted when i killed them
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: just make sure you double check and ensure the script you want to run is actually legal.  It sounds like it is, since it's operating on a macro/alias, but just double check that to make sure.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i think thats why this guy went with just using consider for the whole thing
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: it is, its all aliases, doesnt do anything by itself except consider
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: it wont do anything if i dont type a command (except a random consider on repop maybe)
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: see now it updated again wtf
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: another neat thing to do is assign each mob in your db a 'priority' level, and when you build the mob list, have it put the mobs in an order that results in less trouble for you
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: for example, if a mob does nothing particularly bad, it'll be p4 by default.  If the mob autoassists, set it to p2 and kill those off first.  If it spooks or teleports, set it p6 and leave them for last.  the priority levels I use are p1 = highest, and p7 = lowest so with that many levels it's easy to rank mobs based on how irritating they are and how much trouble they can potentially cause if killed in the wrong order
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: bart with their left hand?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: now I remember what I wanted to ask.  Is strong encryption of any sort viable with Lua?  I know cryptographic hash functions like SHA256 are, but can't find really good info about implementing AES or RSA or other form of strong crypto
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: does aardmush have bitlib library?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea idk, seems like the triggers for the consider lines just arent being enabled
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: but they are, i can see that they are (or at least my Note() ran right before the ENableTriggerGroup())
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what trigger patterns are you using?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: its the ones in the plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i should update them all to regex and see if that helps
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: right away I see that the triggers are not enabled by default
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: no theyre not, theyre enabled in send_consider
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: which fires just fine, and i put a Note() in there to see if it was running the else portion of the if
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: hm, his enabletrigger commands are using 0 and 1 in place of true and false, I don't think that's correct as both 0 and 1 evaluate to true in Lua.  Maybe change those?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: nah i use 1 and 0 all the time
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: and the one in send_consider uses true
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: but i changed it to false
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: err
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i changed it to 1
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: you ever look at someones script and wonder why the hell they did it the way they did?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I don't know, the documentation for EnableTriggerGroup() gives the syntax as EnableTriggerGroup("trigger_group_here", true)
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Most of working on S&D consists of exactly that
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: theyre all true/false from what i can see
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: oh this one isnt
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: kash, I got the script, it works for me, but... did you get the one in page 5 of the thread ?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: the one about the exit trigger?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm looking at the function conw, that one uses EnableTriggerGroup("group_name", 1)
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I think it should be using true/false and not 1/0
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: it doesnt matter either way starling, but the one that im having problems with is in send_consider and its using true by default
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: yes, it's not the only diff respect the one in the first thread page
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: oh theres a whople different script file here
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: no i didnt see that one
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: starling 1=true ... or better 0=false and anything else = true
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: not in Lua
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea i ALWAYS use 1 and 0 in my scripts
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: try it, it works for me
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: for EnableGroup and EnableTriggerGroup
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: 0 and 1 are both true in Lua, the only false values are false and nil
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: doesnt matter what they are in lua, only what they mean to the EnableGroup and EnableTriggerGroup functions
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: oooops, my bad Starling... here I just showed how newbie I am at lua :(
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ill try this one kit
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's ok
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it sounds like the script might just be old, or maybe the mushclient version needs updated
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it never hurts to upgrade to the most recent version
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea im trying this version on page 5
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: you should also chenge 'mob = string.match (line, k)' with 'mob = string.match (string.gsub(line, "?!", ""), k)
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: what line number is that?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: even if that's just for certain mobs
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: 480
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: still doesnt work :\
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: oh wait.-..-.ò.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: not sure why you'd want it to auto-consider on entering the room though, that sounds like it would get kind of annoying.  I'd put it on a macro button or alias so that it populates the list when that command is given.  No reason to auto consider if you're not actually going to kill something.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea not even close
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: I added 2 triggers, so the line changed
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: find mob = string.match (line, k)
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: its unique
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: found it
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: and look in the last page of the thread (6) there are 2 triggers to improve the script
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: for 'noexp' and 'appear'
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You know what's actually REALLY annoying and kind of hard to work around?  Mob auras.  Sanc, good/evil, translucent, etc.  When I was first getting into Lua and regexp, getting a pattern to match a mob long desc AND both possible cases (mob has auras, mob has no auras) was a real PITA
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: considerline = string.gsub(considerline, "%(White Aura%) ", "")
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: still nothing
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: considerline = string.gsub(considerline, "%(Translucent%) ", "")
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: yeah, see I didn't know about that at the time, so the filtering is straight regexp
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: sad :( it works for me
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: there is the regexp:  (?:\([GHIRTW()]\))\s(.+)$
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: its like the triggers arent being enabled or theyre not matching
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: one of these two things is true, theyre not being enabled or they dont match
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: doesnt happen you have the gammon's color consider active ?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: (I)(G) You would stomp A buzzing sprite into the ground.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: match="^You would stomp (.*?) into the ground\.$"  
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: no idea, sorry :(
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea that definitely wont match
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I generally use .+ for 'match anything'
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ugh, ill have to fix the regexp on all these triggers
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: problem is it starts with ^You so it will never match ^(I)
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: there will never be nothing where the wildcard is present, so it doesn't make sense to have a pattern that responds to 0 or 1 of a thing, hence .+ over .*
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: heh... that's why I cant stomp anything to the ground :)
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ill redo all of these triggers tomorrow
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: then maybe ill make someone post my updates to the forum :p
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: match="^(.*?) You would be completely annihilated by (.*?)\!$"
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: see this is what i mean
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: 2 different triggers, completely different
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: omg these triggers are horribad
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ill fix em
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: help consider even gives you the lines
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: is there a way to turn off seeing flags on mobs in consider?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: also, I suspect the lua engine itself might have been upgraded since that script was written
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: its the triggers, look at them theyre bad
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: also some have multiple wildcards and others have only one
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: they all need to be regex with a single backreference
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is much simplier to preprocess con line and strip it off mob flags like (I), (Invis), (Trans...) etc
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then you just get a line like: You would stomp A buzzing sprite into the ground.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and you construct regexps for that line to extract mob name
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: fixed.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: now can anyone tell me with certainty which flags will show up in consider?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: of good evil translucent cursed etc etc etc
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: screw it im going to sleep :p
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: sorry, I had to go AFK abruptely... yes there are some wrong triggers there... probably changed in the meantime
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i fixed them all
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ill send you the new version later
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: remind me
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: but going to sleep now
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: nite :)
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: when creating cexits can you use mapper commands like.. mapper runto?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nods thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No. It will cause issues.  You can put in a run 3n etc though.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because that would get processed immediately, while you're still in the starting room
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: hmm can you add a wait?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: you can change the total wait time
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Starling uses mapper goto in hers. Uses it for Vidblain; it runs to vidblain, waits 0.1 seconds, then runs to a set room as her 'starting point'
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that doesn't change when it's processed...
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yes, it does.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: It actually works. 
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, I mean using the mapper wait command
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wrote that on dunpeal's question, not your comment
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what starling does isn't a cexit, it's an override of the mapper functions
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No, she uses it as a cexit.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: oh, that vidblain thing
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the solution to the looping problem was to make it do either 'mapper walkto' or 'xmapper move <room> walk' which tells mapper to not use portals, and therefore avoids looping back to insanitaria
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: unfortunately, mapper walkto doesn't use portals
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: so you won't use your sendhia, imperial, etc. portals, you'll just run the slow way
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: but at least it actually does get you there instead of looping through the same portal 50 times
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: - 30
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Hey Aardlings, I've written a plugin that helps access external maps from inside of mushclient. Download and check it out http://huddy.tk/plugins/Aardwolf_Showmap_v1.0.3.zip screenshot http://huddy.tk/plugins/showmap.png
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i have a brand new idea for a graphical plugin.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: a live damage meter. like they use in gpu reviews
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: what sort of graphical?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: here - it'd update in 3 second intervals when in combat. 
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't most people use a live damage meter?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: ugh!
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Not brand new. Already been done. Don't ask me where, though.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: that sounds distracting you mean like showing updating bar graphs?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: yes Pwar
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: well
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: neat idea but would be too distracting for my eyes :p
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thought aardMUSH shipped with updating bar graph already...
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: He's talking about a damage meter, not a health meter
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc doesn't follow the difference
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: one that tracks damage dealt and received
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: damage is merely removed health
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: there was a channel that used the fps graph... ive lost it now
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: https://youtu.be/k72BJi74WtU?t=413
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: that type of graph. but for damage here
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: live damage meter (if it is what I think he's saying) would be showing the damage at any given moment not the total lost like health bar does
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: yes. but since the rounds are 3 secs long, the update cycle would be 3 secs.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: hi, I have a search and destroy question.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: Every time I seem to use it for my campaigns there is atleast one mob it doesnt know. When this happens none of the mobs it should know appear to S&D
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: therefore making me check cp info not cp check because cp check does not show any mobs..
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is the mob scrambled? (name is changed somehow)
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: possible
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: maybe one, but these are all low level campaigns so I doubt it
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: but it causes all of them to fail
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Are you using the one on Starling's Finger.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: I currently have lik 9 or 10 targets left but cant see any on S&D window or CP check
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: 1.3.3
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Did you reinstall the plugin?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: sometimes droid mud is hard to read..
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: no, I will try that now
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: are there any other flags that show up on mobs besides IGWRTHX and Wounded?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Mandy Mandorallen Tech: there's (D)... I think that's diseased?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Mandy Mandorallen Tech: full list in 'help auras'
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: oh ok
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: im just gonna change my regex to [A-Za-z]+...
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sir Mandy Mandorallen chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: haha
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krezey Tech: Hello?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: you can ask your question, Krezey
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and if someone knows, they'll answer :)
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: (\([A-Za-z ]+]\))* should work well :p
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krezey Tech: So.. Im using Blowtorch client on the phone, and whenever I assign a button to switch sets I recieve in error when I click it.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: damnit why didnt you guys tell me i have an extra ] in there
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Same reason we don't tell you there's spinach in your teeth.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombinynjah Tech: its funny!~!
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: My understanding of regex is so small that I just figured the extra one was necessary
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i think i am officially done with the consider window updates if anyone is interested
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Info channels isn't showing up for me unless I uncheck "Enable Triggers". However, when I disable each trigger individually I still can't see the info channel. Anyone know what's going on here?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Tipro: try right clicking in your comm log window, echo channels to main window, and select info channel
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ok, actually done now i think
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Get your MUSHclient questions answered
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: Is there a short cut to search through command history? Ala ctrl-r? 
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what's ctrl-r?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: bash thing
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: yes, sorry bash thing
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ah, got it
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: search command history? You know, I think there might be...one sec
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: ctrl+h ?
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: nice, not exactly what I'm looking for but very useable, thanks.
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol, I looked for this in 2011
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it seems the thread had no resolution :\
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wanted shift-tab to do it
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so it seems like the answer is no, but it could be done with scripting
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: Okay, thanks for searching!
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrn Tech: mudlet lets you type something and then uparrow will scroll up only to commands that match it, works nicely
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrn Tech: obviously doesn't help with mushclient
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it can be done since you can programatically access the command history, it's just not done built in 
T3/r7/2017-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but the ctrl+h dialog is a pretty good multi-step solution since you can search from it
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: so u can play mush directly from a thumb drive now?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you couldn't before?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i couldnt, at least i dont think i could
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I had never tried personally I just assumed it would work. Aside from a few stray registry settings it might leave behind I thought mush was reasonably portable
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: people have been running mushclient from thumbdrives for years
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nothing has changed
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: so can i just copy my aardwolf file and move it to a jump drive and it will work directly from the jump drive?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: copy the entire "mushclient" folder with all subfolders and files to the drive, then run mushclient/mushclient.exe from the drive and it should work
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: k thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: also how do i make my prompt save the last entrance
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the what
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: wut
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Maybe Limunious wants Alt+0 -> Auto-repeat command
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: Anyone using LMDE around?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: are Mushclient questions still answered here?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: No, they're answered over there -->
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ugh
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I can never win
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm trying to learn a bit of Chinese through some Chinese language muds, but by default it doesn't look like my mushclient setup supports the character encoding (unicode?)... from googling around it looks like it's possible to turn it on though?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: We can't all be winners, now. We have to have some losers so there can be winners. Think of it as your contributions.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so I could be winning .. sometimes..
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, not sure about that, to be honest.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I didn't find anything terribly obvious in the settings (was hoping for an encoding dropdown)
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: I should find some Spanish muds to practice my Spanish on.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, I'm looking for ways to integrate language studies into my gaming addiction =)
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: I've seen some unicodes deep in the programmers' forest, east of the binary fields. 
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: in world properties it looks like there's a checkbox to turn on UTF-8.. might help
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I've seen dead bunnies in blood-ridden forests, right next to the swamps of no return :'(
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Yajan: You're using a font for the output that displays the Chinese characters?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions are answered here now
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: they weren't before. before they were answered there.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acidrayne Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've used MUSHclient in Chinese in the past by launching it with LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8 wine MUSHclient.exe
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know how in Windows though
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Some chinese muds have bicolor characters, which is super neat but not supported by MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there's a plugin in this thread to remove them https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=13797&page=2
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: chinese mud.. damn
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i wonder if it scrolls sideways?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: I'm trying to get a trigger that parses out normal, rare and opk xp and adds it together 
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: but the problem is that the '+' symbol is being taken as a regular expression
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: You can escape it.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: put \ in front of it?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: because I want to simplify all the outputs and have a single line showing total xp and gold from a mob
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: That already exists in the game.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: how?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Well, Rare doesn't combine, but the others do.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Im not sure what you mean. I'm on mush and getting one line for xp, another if double is going, one line for gold looted and a fourth line for gold on corpse sac. I want to combine that into 1 line
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: Oh, yeah, didn't see the 'gold' portion.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Has anybody else been having problems with eqDB, recently?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: define "problem" and "recently"
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: right
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Losing track of items (dropping out of the database, no longer being registered)
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: for how long? I'm trying to figure that out, sorry
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I bet you are not using the latest version 
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: I only noticed it since I remorted
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: of MUSHclient? or eqDB? (or both?)
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: both
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the latest aardwolf mushclient package requires the latest eqdb
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: well, you have released 1946, though I'm already on 1944.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: well. an eqdb fix. i should get that
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: duh
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidrayne Arcidayne Tech: First thing anyone should ever do when having troubles with a plugin is check to see if there's a newer version. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't remember the exact cause, but there was some conflicting interaction between inventory serials and eqdb that was fixed by an update to eqdb
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Thanks, Fiendish, for calling me on my nub-ness.  The containers issue is presumably what I was running into.  Guess I may as well update MUSHclient while I'm at it :)
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: always glad to help
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: is there a setting for mushclient that allows you to see all the output, even the stuff that is flagged omit from output?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: Anyone available to help with Bast Spellup plugin? The window isn't showing anywhere. I've removed and reinstalled. Quit and reopenned MUSH, but nothing seems to work.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: - h
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Tol: no, though sometimes I wish there were
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can display gmcp though
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is anyone else having trouble with mush upgrades?  On two different systems running wine, mush locks up for me when it displays the window notifying me that a new version of mush is available.  I think that the notification window is sometimes being added beneath my other windows and I can't access it to accept/ignore the update.  The other windows don't have focus and I can't do anything except force close mush at that point.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what version of wine
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If I upgrade mush, everything is fine until the next time an update is advertised and then it repeates
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 2.19-staging and 2.20-staging don't do that for me
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I've tried everything from 1.8, 2.03, and 2.19 (staging)
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: on debian
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: this happens on two different systems running os x
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It was driving me nuts until I just noticed that the upgrade window was sometimes briefly flashing and then going under the other windows
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I think that would explain why I can't interact with any of the other windows on top of it
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so we can do a test
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: give me a minute to put it together
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Sure, just tell me what you'd like me to try
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type \\\utils.editbox ("test message", "test title", "asfd asdf asdf asdf asdf asdf asdf", nil, nil, {["read_only"]=true})
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That works fine for me
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It was on top and in focus and I could select either option
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: open the AardwolfPackageChanges text file and edit the r number on line three to say something lower
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (keep mushclient open)
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: jesus
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: OK, I did.  Do you want me to restart mush?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Lol, never mind, you just said to keep it open
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type package update check
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: The window popped up in front and in focus.  I could access it without any problem.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, undo the change the version file
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so there's something about creating the dialog box at that particular moment?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's what it feels like
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: This happens with a fresh installation with all of the default windows and window orientations
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If I install a version that is at least one version back from the latest
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok next test I guess. minute
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Just for kicks, I re-ran mush over and over to see if the upgrade window issue was consistent or intermittent.  After a few times failing, the window popped up on top of my other windows and now it is repeatedly appearing where it should when I start mush.  Now I can't get it to fail on my system.  Argh.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Just a sec...I need to find a chicken to sacrifice...
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: at an old job we used to have a page on our internal wiki called Voodoo Chicken Ritual
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it involved swinging a rubber chicken over your head three times and some other very specific invocations that were surprisingly always able to get an unreproducible bug to reappear
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I don't suppose you remember the rest of the ritual? *grin*  Even with prime it will take 2 days for my chicken to arrive...
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: wait they don't have it for 2hour delivery?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: No, no 2-hour delivery.  Something about the chicken's voodoo field interfering with drone technology...
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The chicken ends up delivering the drone.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: ok now that made me lol
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok install that new plugin, then save and restart mushclient
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (it will pop up another dialog)
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: OK, be back in a sec
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: OK, that killed mush.  Mush just hangs when I try to start with the plugin enabled.  I needed to manually rename the plugin file so that I could log back in and report back to you.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well I guess that's a success then. hmm
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It popped up the window briefly and then went to a blank grey screen
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: The chicken is saved!!!
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Birdbrain Metria enthusiastically high-fives Durel!
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, well...mmm...you know what, I can probably work with this. let's do another test
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel grins evilly.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do you auto-login?
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Nope
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Login doesn't even come into play here.  It hangs before I get a chance to log in
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's great and probably also fixable
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: my fix won't address the cause of the problem, but I can probably work around it without breaking annything
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Sounds good to me :)  I can work around the issue now that I now what is happening.  I mainly just don't want someone else to hit it that isn't familiar with the issue.
T3/r7/2017-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ok, I tried the proposed fix and it still hangs the system.  It pops up the dialog window for a few seconds, then the dialog window disappears and mush hangs at that point.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: looking for testers
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: good morning. MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hi all
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: i want to upgrade from win 7 home basic to win 10.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: is there any way i can keep my drivers (graphocs sound etc.) I installed win 10 and had no drivers, so i had t rollback to windows 7
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: probably not, should be able to just go download your drivers after though
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: drivers roo big since i'm on a limited plan, but meh..
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so just grab that aard package and check whether it runs?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: idk how else youd get them
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or does that need thorough testing ?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: if you have your driver cd from your graphics card/motherboard you can try it i guess?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: btw why switch to 10?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: don't know :p it's just almost everyehere here
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: or do you say win 7 is more reliable than 10?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is more reliable
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: win10 is just live test distro
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: any version?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you cannot choose whether you want install updates or not, you just get them
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: of win 7 i mean
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: true that
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think getting linux is more prospective though
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but if you need to run some apps on win 7/10 then you do not really have a choice
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe except using VM with some win version 
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also for games - windows is obvious choice
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: I never had an issue with win 7. 
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hmm you have a point
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, nowadays main problem with windows is security and privacy
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you are smart enough then those 2 things are irrelevant
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: yeah, privacy is always my main concern :p People keep telling me to get Kaspersky
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, western world is unable to deploy some exploits because of Kaspersky
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so now you all know that Kaspersky spies you, so please install Windows Defender :P
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I remember Truecrypt - it was so secure that eventually its creator had to state that it is insecure
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Veracrypt replaced truecrypt
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: security sounds like the word organic to me these days
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: bleh, is there an antivirus that does not spyt?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: omg, like that food has carbon and nitrogen? ... omg, like that computer system has flaws?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually if you use Linux you do not need antivirus
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: problem here is the word Usually
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i've never gotten an ubuntu virus, though there's some java/flash/what have you nonsense, but that's mostly trackers
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you just want to use MS Office - get a Linux and use Office in VM
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but that is not a good choice for ordinary user
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: ...google documents?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: too much fuss
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: screw microsoft
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then use Libreoffice (or OO whatever it is called now), but that is not really most convenient solution
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: honestly i'm not fond of that one
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and using any cloud service - you give your data to other people
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: google docs though
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: on google drive...
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: best way to stay secure is to never connect to internet
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: using google chrome on chrome book :P
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: true dat ayasinda
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you cannot avoid that in modern world
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i still use firefox, and i'm on a lenovo i got for $80
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: then you accept that you are not secure
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: all this is just a silly side note to privacy breach
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: tv's, dvr's, cell phones, freakin pistols that shoot lasers that listen to conversation through wall, the device that reads everything on a cell tower, etc.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: and don't even start with airplane security....that shit doesn't exist
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: Tacos, dont forget about tacos!
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: mmm taco
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and vibrators :P
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa nicely asks Trachx to be more quiet.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: vibrators are hilarious
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: nothing the tsa hates more i'm sure
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: have to refer to those as 'a dildo' not 'your -- dildo'
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: is that real i wonder? probably just funny for the movie
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: iono, it was funny nonetheless
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: still befuddles me that people can be so brainwashed as to impose all these strictures upon themselves and everyone around them, enforcing ridiculous laws against someone who finds them every bit as ridiculous as the enforcer does
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: all so a corporation can make up more imaginary currency papers and pretend they are important somehow
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: ms office 2016 reliable ? :p
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what do you mean by reliable?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Maruxus chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: i mean in a privacy sense
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: privacy, eh?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: if you save in the cloud, probably not
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: please go on
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: tell me more about O365 ad privac
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i mean...running microsoft software on microsoft software would seem to be a net 0 change in privacy
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and privacy*
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: if you use it locally for a cookbook, I doubt it will send to Bill your grandma's pie recipe
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: anyway, if you want to be sure, use TeX ;)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: dillon's LD.. prolly those comments he made on privacy
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: need to be careful with those statements
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: the Man is always watching
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: or at least some ai is
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: Sheeeeeit..... we're all in troubkle now
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mas que Raded Tech: ban for swears
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: tonight, someone's gonna raid retri, and it's not even gonna be a player on the mud
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: but you can thank dillon for that
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber screams "Beep! Beep!" like Road Runner and then turns and sprints off...
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dillon grins evilly.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: does Search and destroy always fail to show correctly with cp check when you have mobs in area's that you have no explored?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: again this morning I have one red, 2 white and the rest dont even show up
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: probably. use cp info, go to the area, explore, profit :)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: you have to at least step into the area first
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: so the mapper creates it as an area
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: won't help for room campaigns
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: room campaigns you need the room, but s&d still will take you to the area if you've been there
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: S&D uses mapper data, so yes. If you haven't been to the area before, it doesn't know that it exists, basically. And for room name campaigns, you have to have that exact room mapped.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: for room campaigns, if you haven't visited the room, snd cannot know the area it is in
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: if you have visited the room, it won't take you to the area, but to the room
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hmm, In the week my s&d showed a red for the secret lab in vlad. I assume it messes now and then
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: maybe the target was dead? :)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: or you had a bad path to the room
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: idk
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: But here is an example, I have been to magical hodgepog or w/e before. One of my mobs is in there but it doesnt even show up on S&D
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: nope, my bad paths never highlight red and was not dead
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: Zcrim: is it a room campaign or an area campaign?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: shows up as an area in cp info
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: cant check cp check as it doesnt show up due to S&D
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: cp che
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: for all the targets, yes? 
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: 3 targets only show up, 1 red and 2 white
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: if a target in a room campaign is dead, it will be listed by area, not room
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: ~~~  1      a peace keeper       - 'Keep of the Kobaloi' is Unknown
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: red
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: ~~~  2    Grebon, Gnome Mage Extraordinaire - 'The Grand City of Aylor' (32418) - aylor [1-201], ~~~  3    the Deep Dragon      - 'The Gauntlet' (31686) - gauntlet [0-300]
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: as white
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: that's a room quest innit?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: yeah, room cp's are still a bit wonky from time to time, but once you've explored it's less an issue
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: heh, I think it sees that as a room campaign
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hmm, someone type xmall Keep of the Kobaloi
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: no room found
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: that's an area campaign being read as a room campaign? wierd
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: that's not how it works.  sometimes you can get options of going to a room or area in one thing
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: ...i've always had one or the other
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: failed mapper database integrity check, or something like that
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: well, there aren't many areas and rooms that share names
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: or in a room gq it will show the area instead of the room when it's dead
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: sure, that's true harperon
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: well, it shows the area name if it's dead without the s&d if you type gq c etc
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: (test package) and cp check with S&D looks ugly - font is underscored
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: yeah..because s&d doesn't work for gqs...right..
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: yeah it doesn't
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: my snd doesn't work for gqs :)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: just displays
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: (test package) it seems that for some reaon underline was just ticked in font
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's fine, you can untick it if you want
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's hard to introduce new functionality without activating it at least once, because otherwise nobody discovers it
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so except that "Failed mapper db integrity check. close mushclient ...." error everything seems fine
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: fiendish, noone has a good reason why my S&D isnt showing targets... I get 1 Red, 2 White and the rest dont show up at all. I have been to the some of the area's of the mobs that arnt showing up so they should be in mapper..
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: failed integrity check? hm
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: did you copy the mapper db without closing mushclient first?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think I've closed all files before copying, but now I will switch to previous version and check that again
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zcrim: I choose to know very little about S&D
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: gotcha, ok thnaks
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think I did it correctly, but test package fails with integrity check
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe I have rendered that DB to such state by trying to remove some titan rooms :P
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yet it seems to load fine on old version
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what version were you on previously?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (checkversion)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: rather old one: r1830
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess I should upgrade to new version (which probably upgrades also DB) and then use test package
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway it works
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for some definition of works that involves an integrity check failure :\
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: with S&D and a bunch of other plugins (I found how many I use when they all failed to load as I installed test package to new location)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: would you be willing to send me a copy of the db file that is failing the check?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you want DB that was already opened on new version? or DB from r1830 mush?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm. I guess probably both
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: one moment, need to close mush then
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: make sure to quit mushclients first
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: this is strange, this regex wont match in a plugin but matches as a mushclient trigger outside of the plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: actually it is not a mapper problem
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean mapper db is fine
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I have "borrowed" a lot of mapper DB handling for another DB
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and it is another DB that fails to load
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ooh
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's still interesting
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still a bit strange as it loads on old version flawlessly
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well if you're willing to send me that db and whatever plugin is using it...
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you don't have to
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it can help to avoid other potential problems then sure, one moment , I need to close mush again
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Kobus: did you write the plugin by hand?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: no i wrote the regex
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: some symbols can't be safely used in XML without replacing
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: does your regex include < or >?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: plugin was generated by wizard
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ^(\([A-Za-z ]+\) ?)*(.+) would be easy, but is it even worth the work out\?$
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i have 12 other triggers that look just like it and most of them work fine as far as i can tell
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do you know how to find that trigger in the plugin file?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea im editing the plugin file right now
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: can you paste the entire <trigger></trigger> block for that one either in a note or pastebin or something?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea ill pastebin it
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: i'll be back in 15 minutes 
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: back
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok kobus's problem is resolved, trachx looking at your download now
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Trachx: so I can't vouch for why the test wasn't failing previously, but the db integrity is fine. it's the test that's wrong.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but you caused me to find a problem with the test code in the mapper plugin too, so that's good
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's possible that the older version of MUSHclient in r1830 also had an older version of SQLite built in, and that the older version emitted a different column name for the integrity check result to differentiate between full and quick checks
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so this is easy to fix. I'll send you the details once I'm done
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (I mean, it's possible that the newer sqlite differentiates between full and quick integrity check results, while the older one might not have)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: great news !
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: well? we're waiting!
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: my mushclient started acting weird earlier and couldn't write to any files, was complaining it couldn't open any more when trying to write to Aardwolf.mcl
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I restarted and it worked fine after that but it still concerned me, I'm not sure why it happened
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean what Fiendish said that I contributed greatly to Mush client and Aard package development
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, maybe not exactly that, but I contributed after all
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean kind of as I did nothing, but still counts, right ?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: put it on your resume, trach  :)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: instrumental in custom code development project
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: anyone else run into an issue with mush in linux having "Too many open files"?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have it opened too many files ?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can check that with "lsof"
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I guess I will have to check it again next time it happens
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it really have too many open files: either raise ulimits (if there are any), or change kernel params
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: that sounds like a way to continue on but not fix the problem I doubt it should be exceeding open file limit
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe if you see what files are opened (or sockets as that also counts) you will be able to nail down source of problem
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: yes I suppose I will have to catch it next time while it's erroring and see what is up
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: to be fair I think mushclient process had been running for a fairly long time, but I still don't think this should happen unless there is something calling up file descriptors by mistake or something
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: thanks Trachx
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: there's really no way i can change a language in win 7 home premium? :(
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Should be able to.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Don't see why you wouldn't be able to.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I think you can in windows 7, but you have to download the language pack
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: i read online stuff and was told to upgrade to ultimate, but i believe there should be another way, i'll try by just downloading the pack
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: https://www.pcsteps.com/880-windows-7-language-change-any-version/
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: nod thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Good luck.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hmm, there's one thing
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: i wont get into any bs for using this hack tool right? :p
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Is it really a hack? You shouldn't, anyway.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Hmm. I wonder if it would be possible to create a video window that would allow you to open YouTube links in MUSHclient... 
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I don't think mush has sufficient apis to make that happen but I could be wrong
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: how do I remove spellup plugin from trying to cast invis after evertime I kill a mob? really annoying when killing... :P
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Turn the spell off of your spellup
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: cheers thanks!
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: read help forgetskill
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: forgetskill wouldn't do it
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: oh? why not?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: think it worked just fine
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because it doesn't stop you from casting stuff
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Because it's being cast from a script, not mudside spellup.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: for one thing you wouldn't be able to cast invis manually if you did forgetskill
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: forgetskill wouldn't prevent a program from typing "c invis"
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes you would, pwar
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: oh I thought it did
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: cool
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: that's not what I read in the help file.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Forgetskill only removes it from the mudside spellup.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: forgetskill has no impact on anything except the spellup *command*
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Which spellup script is up to date these days anyway?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: It's a simple test, really.  Try it out.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: i'm using bast's, works great
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: that is waht he was talking about. I thought that was what his question meant.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast has a nice alias on the page for his spellup script to help you stay visible
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no anaristos...he said spellup *plugin*
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: english no me first spinking thing.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://abelinc.me/bastdocs, click the + next to Bast's Plugins, then click on bast_spellup to see info on Bast's spellup plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: I use cmud, remember? :)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the "Walkthrough" section, he has an alias to go vis, and another to stay invis again
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: why/
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: The Original CMUD or the Zuggsoft Cmud?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: NM I am thinking Gmud
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I remember GMUD.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maruxus: probably for the same reason I use tinyfugue rather than MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: loved gmud
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It was awesome at its time.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: why?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: the screen was super fast
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: Gmud was something. I loved Zmud at the time, I have a license for it. I am just not buying Cmud 
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: cmud is an original and unfinished zugg :)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cuz it's powerful enough to do everything that I need, and I'm very intimately familiar with it
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: zmud was my jam
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: Did not require install, so we could hide it on our PCs in the library at school and run it from an inserted object in a Wordpad file.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: diabolical.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: nice choice
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: a bunch of us here spent over 2 years beta testing cmud and then zugg walks out.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at Kalvothe.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've been using tinyfugue since before any of those existed ;-)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: after we paid the new license for the release version :)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: we hacked the server in my high school to run our quake 2 servers
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: I can't help think of Tugsoft when people mention Zuggsoft.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: Tugsoft made UO:Assist for Ultima ONline
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: cmud is very powerful as is, it would have been something if taken to completion.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Zugg abandoned cmud?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, dropped it like a lead balloon
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: walked right out
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: can I still buy Cmud and get a key? 
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Maybe he got tired of the pushback from Zmud users, haha
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: z/cmud was still pretty popular here for years, but between zugg dropping it and the amazing work Fiendish has done (not only in the aardMUSH package itself, but also with supporting it), it's been a landslide for a while
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: three cheers for fiendish!
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: that is true, had I not invested the time I did in cmud I would have been happy to work with aardmush.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: Hip hip.. crap I threw out my hip
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You CAN buy a cmud key still, I think - but why would you want to? He's stopped all development.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "the bugs you know" is why lots of people did continue using cmud for quite a while
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: he has and if there are some bugs, not big ones, but they can be annoying sometimes.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Sense Anaristos Tech: not if* :)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I remember when zMUD had a serious bug that allowed people to be easily fooled. You could do something like ft :says hi.;&239;Crowley is haunted by wolves. to make people think you were just Imm'd. Or whatever the breakline character was.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: breakline sequence, rather.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, that wasn't really a bug, it was simply support for MCP (or M something P, I forget)
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: So I've been away a while and I'm pretty sure some of my manor exits are gone.  My aardMUSH mapper is trying to use an exit here that doesn't exist.  I've done "mapper purgeroom" and it still happens.  Help?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: MXP I think?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's it
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Zugg defined it as a bug, fixed it in the next version after it was "found".
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xaxz: you should be able to right-click the room and edit its exits
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I was mad when he fixed it. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: That's the strange part, there aren't any rogue exits when I do that
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Did you make manor cexits?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's the cexits, for sure.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try typing "mapper where 32418", what does it say?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: mapper delete cexits
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that will tell you the path that it intends to take ot reach recall, btw
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: There are no cexits in this room and that one takes me to recall, yes
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It doesn't have to be in that room.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Go to your manor porch, and do the mapper where again.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, use "mapper where <some room that's messing up>", that will give you an idea of what it's trying to do
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: try mapper cexits in your "home" room, if that isn't where you've been trying from.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: err
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: 'mapper cexits here'
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Right, it's trying to run north from my manor to get to some areas.  No cexits here or from my porch
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: is it your runto prefix?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Good point, Grimvald. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: I have a custom runto script which just uses "mapper goto xxx"
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Wait. You're using a custom runto, having issues...
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: And this is why I'm asking in tech, because I've exhausted all possibilities in my head
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, if you're using a custom runto, there's not much we can do on our end, because it's something in your custom script. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: No no, don't be condescending.  The script just does some clever mapper searches for the keyword and executes a "mapper goto ##"
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ignore your script...don't use it AT ALL in these tests...
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Guys... listen.  The problem still exists when I use the "mapper goto" command which means it has NOTHING to do with that script
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: except I didn't tell you to use mapper goto :P
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Mapper where gives me the same issue, just shows that it WOULD go north instead of actually running there
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: even without running through your script?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That's definitely odd, then.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now try "mapper walkto <that num>"
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it also do it?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Walkto does fine
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You've gone and set up a rogue portal.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, that means that you have a portal going north
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: rogue portal detected
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: mapper portals, check for it?
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: That would be it then.  It's because I never re-enabled my portal script.  =)  The "north" coming from after one of my portals.
T3/r7/2017-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: lol, thanks guys.  That's what I couldn't figure out
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: i need to change portal aliases and keywords on map of the woods and map of the world? using search and destroy.any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i usually use area name for the alias and id in the alias
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: that would make sense, how do i change it in search and destroy
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: mapper help portals
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: at the bottom it shows how to delete
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: you cant really 'change' it, unless you modify the script
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: ahh, you delete and redo the protals
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: you can delete just one portal at a time, dont go using purge if you dont have to lol
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: so the portal i want to get rid of is number 5, so mapper delete portal 5, right?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea youd just delete and redo it, you could dig into the db but its probably easier not to
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: mapper delete portal #5
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: mapper delete portal #5
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: gotta have the # to tell it to delete that index
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: ahh, thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corran Tech: Anyone recall the command to reset the mini window for bast's plugin?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: aardreset I think
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: thats for aard plugins not bast, and you got it backwards
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: no idea corran
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalvothe Tech: Oh, gotcha.
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corran Tech: thx
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: oh did it work?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corran Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ok lol
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: i know miniwin_events is reset by: mev reset
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: type: plugins
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: that shows list of plugins from Bast and aard, and those Bast plugins have keywords listed under the Cmd column
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corran Tech: Thx wire
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: for example to change settings for the Bast gq broadcast, type bgq, and to reset the gq broadcast, type bgq reset
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Hello, newbie mush client question, but is it possible to have 2 output window at the same time?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: as silly as it sounds, I would like to see the same output twice, in different windows.
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you could make a script that does that I'm fairly certain
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you could use GetCommandList to populate a miniwindow with previous commands used
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: It does sound silly. Why do you want it?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and do you want _all_ output twice or just some?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: all
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: webex *duck
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, why?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: well, I suppose only what is actually being displayed in the current output window.
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the answer is that technically anything is possible, but there is no built in mechanism for doing what you want
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe if you explain why you want it someone can think of other ways
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea im interested to know the purpose of this as well
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: oh you mean the main window I thought you meant input
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: that *is* weird :p
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you could use GetLineInfo in tandem with GetLinesInBufferCount to get access to the last x lines of output and then echo to a miniwindow or something
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: ok, I found and am looking at the set of scripts used to make up the aardwolf client. I didn't understand the scope of customization that's at play here. Impressive
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: I suppose I see a way forward if I want to pursue that silly idea =P
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which silly idea? this one or the other one?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: how about a split view of a (mini?)window?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what about it
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Is that a feature that's available?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not yet
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: feel like someone was working on that but hadn't finished yet
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: to do it well you'd need something like my textrect module, which isn't released
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Neat-o. I'd use that feature if it ever makes it out.  Thumbs up to whoever is working on it.
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: starling might be looking for other things to work on
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intangible Rhuli Tech: Any lua programmers aware if we have the capability to loop through the items in a mobs inventory?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That's not really a lua question. That'd be down to your triggers activating whether you're looking at a mob, and then appending to a list/variable somewhere until no longer listing items.
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: As far as from the MUD's Lua interface, i'm not aware of a command for it
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intangible Rhuli Tech: I mean within a prog, loop through the items, not client side.
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The only ones I'm seeing  on the wiki MudFunctions page, is to check specifically for items
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: not to iterate
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wonder, though
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intangible Rhuli Tech: welll, dang, I really need this lol
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Potentially some hack via doat and "inventory"
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intangible Rhuli Tech: alright, will come up with some other way to accomplish what I'm trying to do.
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think I have a way
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intangible Rhuli Tech: talk on test port?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: ok, at work, there's 2 applications, one called meerkat, and the other moocow. I need to work on a third app in the same zoo, and the naming convention is generally animals. Any cool one you can suggest that sorts of fit well with meerkat and moocow?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: clustercat and meowpussy were my first and second thought, but that probably won't fly
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aelfwic Tech: should check out the Ubuntu naming conventions for inspiration
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Mynx, a play on minx? :p
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: yah more subtle than clustercat
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: How can I enable Debug MUSClient, I got some process that's killing the CPU/Disk IO
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Why do you think it's mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I'm running it on wine, when I strace it's it doing bonkers
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What version of WINE?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: It's been running fine the last 3-4 days, this just started a little bit ago, I think it's in a loop reading input from mud maybe
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What version of WINE?
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: It's running in 1.9.2 at the moment
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Latest stable is 2.0.3. You may want to try upgrading your WINE package.
T3/r7/2017-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: As it turns out it's my wife's Phone using all our outgoing Bandwidth, nothing to do with wine or MUSHclient 
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: forget latest stable, even 2.0.3 is wicked old
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's so easy to use wine 2.20
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, typo out of habit
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Nick really should consider making a mini-browser plugin for MUSH that supports html5. Just sayin'.
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Nick has stated many times that his client is a text based mud client ;D
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Could've fooled me with all the visuals we got going on here, some created by Nick himself! :p
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i think its time for me to figure out how to do sqlite dbs in lua
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: how to create or work with? Bast has some good code on creating a db and winkle's code will show you how to connect to aard.db.
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: mostly just work with, i can probably find (or already have) an external tool to create it
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: but knowing how to do it in lua wouldnt be bad either
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: do sqlite dbs not have types for their data fields?
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: null integer real text blob
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ah ok
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: check this page out
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: https://sqlite.org/datatype3.html
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ah i get it, somewhat simplified compared to other databse engines
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: yeah the group a lot of the data types together
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: they*
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: pretty much just need remember how to form sql queries and i should be golden with this documentation :p
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: SELECT * FROM table_name WHERE field = 'bah';
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea, just been a long time. anything more advanced from that is gonna take some reading
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: than*
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: same here I don't do a lot of sql anymore myself
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i did quite a bit for a couple years but that was like 10 years ago
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: had a pretty decent basic CMS that i wrote for a website that i had, sad all that code is gone
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: and my php skill has gone down the tube
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: down the tube as in you deleted it?
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: down the tube as in i suck at it now
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: idk where that code went
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: it may be on a flash drive ive lost long ago
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyone here using windows xp still?
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: woah
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I know, right?
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: id be pretty impressed if someone was
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: Im not using XP but I did just wipe this PC that was running 98 (for old games)
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if there's one thing that I know it's that people don't like to update
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: man i need a 98 pc to run some of my old games now...
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You don't.
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: I was using this one Im on right now, but reloaded it with damn small linux
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Campatibility mode works wonders.
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: theres been a few games i couldnt get to run in compatibility mode and i cant remember what they were
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: mostly for playing mechwarrior 2, and some other oldies that have problems, with 3dfx card in it too
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: but i really wanted to play them at the time
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh man. I loved mechwarrior 2
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I used to play that on an old powermac 6100
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Heh, one of my favorite older games was Black & White.
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: I had some odd shmups from japan that wouldnt work on compat mode either
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea theres a lot of stuff compatibility mode just wont run
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Throw it on a virtual machine. If it's that old, it doesn't need that much CPU I'm guessin'.
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: I upgraded to 10 and it had problems with virtualbox
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Also 7th Guest. Last Half of Darkness... Betrayal at Krondor. Balder's Gate... Terrorfist once sent me copies to install on my computer for Balder's Gate.
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ah yea good idea, biggest issue with that is getting the iso's for old ass versions of windows
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: but I got enough old hardware around I dont mind having one with 98 on it
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok but for real, anyone got an xp machine still running? :)
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Damn it, now I'm nostalgic.
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: If I were still working as a GI Tech, I'd have you covered. Medical office, refused to update from XP. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: I had a laptop that aws running it but had harddrive problems and now it had linux on it but died compleetly recently
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: was a gateway from about 2004
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: otherwise I use virtual xp with microsoft's virtualizer for win10
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: most of the stuff that was xp compatable is covered pretty well by wine
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: microsoft seems to have removed access to their free XP virtual machines
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: they might have but I got a copy with win10 professional, and used a key from old xp and it works fine
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: I rarely use it for anything other than some old engineering apps
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: and some old magazine on CD programs
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackshield Tech: main thing is you gotta lock down the security on it some, don't want it accessing internet all the time etc
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ooh. archive.org might have one
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: what a copy of windows xp?
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no, I need a virtual machine image
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: well youd be able to install it from an iso
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can grab it from the XP Mode installer. http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-windows-xp-for-free-and-legally-straight-from-microsoft-si/
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh sweet. they do still have the download. they just removed the link for it
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: whats the command again for someone to look at where the most mobs die
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: mobdeaths :P
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: mobdeaths
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: mobdeaths, but q/a is probably better place to ask :)
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Any reason why mapper won't hanlde Crusader Clan zone correctly? I don't have it in mapper areas at all, but mapper where will pass me through it (incorrectly), I'm trying to update the area
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: anyone available to help me troubleshoot a pc issue?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: in and out but what do you need?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: so, something happened and now every time i open internet explorer it crashes
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: when it boots it has a box that says dwm.exe system error, the program can't start because d3d11.dll is missing
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: but I was able to access content through Kodi, so I know it's connected
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: have you run the usual virus and malware scans?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: nod
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: well malwarebytes
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I can't get norton to open properly
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: run a virus scan also. What OS is it?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: windows 7
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: don't laugh, it's not my main comp:)
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I won't many people use it
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: is there another way to run virus scan if norton isn't working?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so your desktop window manager is failing. can you get into the system after that error?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: get a different virus scanner? Comodo is a decent ooption
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: do you have the correct graphics driver installed?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: yeah but I can't get online. though I'm guessing I can just use a usb drive to load it manually
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: dunno, but the resolution is messed up now
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: it's supposed to be 1920 X 1080
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: if its a windows problem try running the following command in a cmd: sfc /scannow
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: did that
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: are you using a graphics card or onboard?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: reinstall the videocard drivers ?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: graphics card
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: have you tried removing the graphics card and allowing windows to boot without it?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: physically remove it?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it might be an issue in your driver/card
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: or can I "disable" it?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: if its a hardware issue you will have to remove it
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: but you can try disabling it to see if its a driver issue
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: ok maybe I'll try disabling first. Now, how do I do that? :)
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: oh also in devices it shows the monitor as "Generic Non-PnP Monitor"
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Piffaron I would suggest googling it, I am sorry. I am at work right now and bouncing back and forth between windows
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: no worries, I did the googling thing (that's how I learned about the sfc /scannow, but since that didn't work I thought I would just try here:)
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I'll try to remove the graphics card
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: thank you:)
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: start it manually
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc loves his manual transmissions for that :-)
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i had the same isue with my berlingo. but just once in 6 years
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: damn. mis:)
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Anyone arround for some mapper help?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it a specific issue, or general questions? I've gotta run out the door, but can help with a quick specific question...for general questions, I like to point you to http://abelinc.me/mapper and http://abelinc.me/hosch :-)
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: If I try to do "go 1" with S&D installed, it almost never works. Either it goes to a random other mob in the list, or it says "no destination exists". Any hints?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Your mapper doesn't know it
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger waves a large bright cyan sign reading "EXPLORE !!"
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Even with areas I have fully explored, btw.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: go is used for after the runto has populated. You're looking for xcp 1.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: doors perhaps? custom exits
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Doors, also
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Does it work only with room name campaigns, maybe?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: if you don't have a cexit for doors, the mapper doesn't know the path
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Again, you're using the wrong command.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Do what crowley said
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's nothing to do with doors. It's nothing to do with anything other than the command.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: OMG, YES, xcp works. YAY. Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Doors WILL cause it to bork, but that's not what happens when it says "No Destination"
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You'll just see yourself stood at a door after the run if the door isn't set correctly.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not always, because after the door, you can still move. :P But in this case, it wasn't anything about doors at all. People overcomplicate things! :p
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Go is not part of S&D itself. It's part of the mapper extender. That's why it wasn't working. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: what plugin is needed to access the seekrs hosted maps. none of the browsers on me phone want to open them
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: ... There is no plugin needed to access them.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I think they are PDF files
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh, wrong type of plugin. Heh.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: But yes, I believe they're PDF files, so you may need a PDF viewer on your phone.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: even chrome whines that "the plug-in is not supported" stupid mobile devices
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: eh?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: which map specifically? you should just be able to download the file to storage and open with an e-reader app
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods at Pwar.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there are over a dozen usable pdf readers for any platform
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: seekers use php files to send the pdf files and every browser i have has the same issue
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: if you tell me the map I'll give you a direct link to the pdf
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: well the deathtrap one, because it lists the mob order decently
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: http://aardseekermaps.mygamesonline.org/deathtrap_seekers.pdf
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you can get the link yourself by viewing the page source in any browser
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: in the future if you need to, that is
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: thanks, I'll try that next time
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ethen Tech: does anyone know or use a soundpack for this mud? I have heard that there's one but haven't been able to find it.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: WinkleWinkle has developed a rudimentary sound pack, there are sounds for most channels, as well as a few other things. it's not super complex, but it does the job.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: https://code.google.com/archive/p/aardwolf-scriptalicious/downloads <- sound pack is near the bottom
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ethen Tech: awesome, Thanks a!
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ethen Tech: mushclient right?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Byrnatha rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ethen Tech: at first wanted to make my own but was too lazy LOL
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So trying out Firefox Quantum. Pretty decent so far.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I liked it
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Could convince me to ditch chrome, honestly
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: If only Google and Mozilla could collaborate together...
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: What's the best new thing about it?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The speed.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: And memory reduction.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That's like saying if only Apple and Google would collab on a phone
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it's small footprint and speed
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now it spawns more processes, previous version used 4 GB with single process, not I have 6 * firefox using similar amount of RAM
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Totally could bloat it out of control with plugins like any firefox though
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: hmmm might try it then
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Right now, 8 tabs open, only 5.41MB. And I've got a number of add-ons installed, too.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: 10 tabs, 6 MB
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: does it synch favorites between computers?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: that doesn't say much though what is loaded in each tab
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: youtube video? graphics? blank pages?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It syncs your Firefox account.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: it's going to vary so much depending on what each tab has loaded
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It syncs accounts
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, that's true for any browser :P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Facebook, Plex, Refdesk, Merriam Webster games...
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: hmm much like chrome works it seems. Gonna give it a try.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 22 windows, but I do not know how to count tabs (maybe CPU threads? then 237)
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Youtube, Reddit, Dictionary.com, W3C, Sierra Wirless SDK Webpage, Facebook, Twitter, Google, Stackoverflow, and Wikipedia
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Sidenote, does not support Flash, so if you're into that kinky business... well, sorry, gonna have to find a new fetish.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: it's honestly time for flash to die anyhow
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's BEEN time, for years.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Since before HTML5 came out.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: what replaces it neatly though?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: HTML5. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: well I disagree with that, html5 is the predecessor
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: WebM and Canvases
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: so flash had to exist until at least it came around :p
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Years of dev work in Flash can't easily be converted
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: plus there's the pandora's box concept once something is out there it never goes away
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yes it can
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: All flash development is for the last 6 ish years has been copy and paste
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You actually only have to convert a small subset to rewrite entirely
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Depends on the apps complexity, how small a subset we talking?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Again, it's not about the app's complexity. It's all a copy/paste of smaller parts. Convert those smaller parts, and the whole becomes converted.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it doesn't require a top-down rewrite, it in fact just requires a transpiler
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Go any good resources?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Quick Example: https://as3js.org/
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Actionscript -> ES6 transpiler
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You should listen to Cheezburger. His job depends on things like this. *shifty*
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Pretty sure he'd know what he was talking about when it comes to things like this.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: There a way to cancel a pathfinding loop when You accident do a mapper goto/next from a room that's impossible? I alread lowered the Depth to 100 so MUSH doesn't crash
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: technically the script could be sent through a lua coroutine to release control back to the client each step but it doesn't atm
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: nor would there ever be any need for it to
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Daak: tell me about your computer and OS please
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: what os are you in?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Arch Linux, using Wine
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wine version what
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's arch, so I'd wager towards bleeding edge version :P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I try not to guess
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: 2.21
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: but it's arch :P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: 8srun
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger turns out to be a lemming and 8fails himself. Loser.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, so...wine shouldn't crash. Pwar is right that it currently doesn't use a coroutine and it could. I think I'd accept a pull request that adds that as long as it doesn't do anything else
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: er rather mushclient shouldn't crash
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: It doesn't crash, BUT after it's on DEpth 75 or so, it starts going very slow, never makes it to depth 300 because I kill the process, would probably take 3 days to get there
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's nuts
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Sounds like a memory leak
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Daak mine was doing the same thing with default wine distributed with my debian distro
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: my workaround is depth to 100 and at least it's only a 5 minute wait
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there's no memory leak
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: when I switched to wine-staging 2.19 it improved massively
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I have depth set to 300 and an unfound path never takes more than like 5 seconds
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Ok, I'll make sure I got the prefix right, might be on an older version, I have a bunch of versions installed ATM, heh
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's why I've never bothered to wrap pathfinding in a coroutine
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: only when hdd is busy you can experience slow path calculation
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: lol depends entierly on the system
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: while (~exitCommandFound) do foo :P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's true, and, um...slightly on purpose...
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: well I had the same issue trach on two ssds on raid stripe0, in my case it was an issue with the version of wine
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: by busy hdd I mean for example when you do hdd backup with Acronis 
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also IIRC with my Duron 1.2 using Bast was slowing down Mush
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: All you fancy schmancy people using all these plugins! Why, I dare say, I MUD barebones telnet! Pfft. Back in my day...
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You joke, but i'm on telnet atm :P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: nerds
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I use a raw socket connection and read all the terminal codes to get the full experience
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you guys are missing out.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: yes well this is the tech channel
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at Pwar.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: might as well be "nerd channel"
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You guys remember Tenchi?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Dude used to mud, telnet only, without color
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I thought this was Abelinc's ct?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: nothing wrong with nerds, we live in a golden age of nerds you know
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Nerds will inherit the earth
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Once we nuke the rest of them
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: nerds already did, earthlings.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: My dubstep is 56k modem.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so anyway, on the subject of wine, IMO anyone running with Wine should be using wine-staging
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I refuse to use anything -staging :P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: -stable or bust
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: stable doesn't mean much as it hasn't been tested specifically with mush for instance
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: who's going to be in London at the beginning of December then ? ^-^
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh, I magine 8.788 million people will be in London at the start of December.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Give or take a few.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: I mean from here
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: for the convention
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Teaches bad habits
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: who?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: it's going to be a big one
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: u.k is in trouble
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what convention
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: which as we all know, can be exploited when panic arises
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: uhrm
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: black hat convention?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, U.K. get civilized! there is no need for panic or fear if you are living in democratic country
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's hilarious
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: I think it's fitting it's in london at the end of this year when u.k is about to go to war with europe
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hosting Black Hat EUROPE in London is too funny
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: after brexit
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: big cash opportunity!
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: sounds scary
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Europe has more problems than just brexit
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: black hat convenbtion
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I would not want to go to black hat
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: or europe
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: it's normally in u.s
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: they hate our freedom
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: this year it's in u.k
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Europe has a severe shortage of tacos
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: because there is no more freedom in US
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I tried to order a steak in a restaurant in the US and a woman in a hat that said COEXIST slapped me and shoved broccoli in my mouth
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: did you at least get your freedom fries?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that really happened
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no she said they were socialism fries now
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: bah
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: I just sit back and laugh as .gov gets more and more "digitalised" as the years tick past
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: and watch the show
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: what show?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger points at Trump.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The oompa loompa show, of course.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: what does a fart look like in binary?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: 000000000000000000001
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are phones with thermal camera (Caterpillar ones) and there is one demo how fart looks like :P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, in that case the image could be blobbed into binary, and you have a literal fart in binary.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Now i feel like i need this in my life
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: right on!
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Something tells me I shouldn't google "thermal fart image" at work though
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: i really don't want to explain that to HR
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: you're at work?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98Q9HbYbut8 , start watching at 9:16
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: But you can explain to HR that you play aard now?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is Cat S60 review
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Aard doesn't use port 80, 443, or 8080 they have no idea what I'm doing, and as far as they're concerned it's code-related :P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Ok, regarding the pathfinding, turns out I had MUSHClient running in 1.92 and not 2.21, in 2.21 it hits Depth within a few seconds. Thanks for the help before
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Why do you have wine clobbered with so many versions? :P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heliar Tech: well technically FART is a valid base 36 number so in binary will be 10101110010001001001
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: nice Daak good to hear :)
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Fathers Against Rude Television
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Play on Linux and certain games wanting certain wine versions
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: I prefer 00000000000000000000001
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you can configure playonlinux to use wine-staging also and I think it's actually better
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: nods, i tell PoL to use a set version
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Typically regressions don't happen in PoL
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So going forward hasn't been a real issue
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: The 2nd part of it was I didn't have multilib added to pacman, so the package wasn't updated
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fun -h...but mythbusters busted the thermal farting video...https://mythresults.com/reddit-special :P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: abelinc, should I use reddit?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think 4chan is more your speed
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: ooh ok
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: anyone know a phone that can copy a fight?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: copy a fight?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i use blowtor h
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'd imagine his is lemonparty. :P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: pleiades is a /pol/
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: no habla
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Pretty sure he wants to copy output in general.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: he trolls for libertarians then calls his congressman about lootboxes in battlefront
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right, but mudinfo note standings numbers were rather low
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: type q, tab, m, tab
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: In MUSHclient, can you repeat a previous entry via bash-like !<wildcard>, not the last input, but search back through the history and run whatever matches
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: yes it s a setting i think 
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: settings.. input.. commands.. auto-repeat last command or something like that
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Not what I'm after. Don't want to repeat the last command, I want to repeat the last command that started with <wildcard>, for example, if I do, scan, kill foo, scan, where foo, want to be able to enter !k to run kill foo
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: not sure how to do that :P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: this is all you need to know how to do.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s6xmolPuUo
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you can type something you've entered and hit tab and tab complete will sometimes work for that
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: or you can hit ctrl+h and search from there
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Could write a script using GetCommandList().
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: using the Find button
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: thanks, that's a start, think I found an alias to handle it
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: my W key is opening my menu hoW do i disable
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: linux 17 cinnomon
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: like your menu bar? it sounds like your alt key might be stuck
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: if i press alt by it self it jumps
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: the screen
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: have you just tried restarting mush?>
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: or is it persistant
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: its all ever... even email n such
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: over
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: try mashing the windows key and alt key alternatively on your keyboard sometimes I have had success with that when it thinks the alt key is stuck down and it will reset it
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: and i am using a flash client
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Try rebooting everything.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: Will try both
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: no change 
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Do you have Windows "stickykeys" turned on? It's easy to turn on by accident.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: after reboot even? maybe your keyboard is pooped? or else mint has some weird "feature" I've never used it so I can't say
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: he's in Linux mint 17 Cinnamon
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Oh is it Linux? Never mind then.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: could try a different keyboard if you have one in the house
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: nope halfWay house lol
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: You want it to not open system menu?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: yes!!
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: from Menu, heh, type shortcut (open Keyboard settings)
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: click Shortuct tab
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: blank..
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: what Category was it in for you?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: if i understand correctly keyboard?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: was there a shortcut tab?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: in middle yes
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: categories on the left, did you find open system menu in there?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: keyboard shortcuts keyboard binding
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: log out shutDOWN n stuff
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: suspend?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: happen to know what version of Cinnamon is in Linux Mint 17?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Looks like might be 2.2, I'm on 3.6 so our menus are different, ugh
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: sounds about right
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: so it's by default set up to open system menu when he presses just "W"?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: should i just diable it all?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: disable lol
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: ugh idk lol o WELL
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: thanks for taking the time and trying to help
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: sorry couldn't be of more help... if you think it's a key stuck you could try running sudo showkey -s in a console to see if it shows keys being pressed and released
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: hoW do i do that?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: open a terminal and do "sudo showkey -s"
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is there a group spellup plugin floating around for AardMUSH?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: how do i stack hp/mana/moves/etc instead of having them in a long row?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: and the same with stats as i like it better horzontally
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: horizontally
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: if you mean in prompt?? you can use %c to add carriage returns to custom prompt
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: not sure what you mean with in prompt but i mean changing the status bar so it stacks instead of it being unstacked
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: nvm found it out
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: oh status bar, you didn't specify :)
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: and i didn't RTFM 
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: you mean on the client?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I was wondering why you'd want hp mana and moves on seperate lines :p
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: says right on the plugin page to right click and select stack to stack xD
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: remember kids, always RTFM even if it can be annoying :-P
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: also, shorting out car batteries is awesome, although not always ideal to the application at hand
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arrdwolf rolls on the floor laughing at Real ninja Starling's antics!
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You know how to really damage somebody's car?   Connect cables to battery terminals.  Connect one side of other end of cables (negative) to vehicle frame, short positive cable to either the engine crankshaft pulley, or perhaps a wheel.  Forces that arc to go through the bearings and burn them up.
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: poor exhausted sleep deprived Starling
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: yes :(
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: sounds like somebody had a bad breakup
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that was 5 years ago
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm pretty much over it
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arrdwolf tosses a bottle of beer at Real ninja Starling ... let's just hope she'll catch it!
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: is there a Way to make the Fmud client bigger?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: are you able to download, Swamptrash?
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: NOPE
T3/r7/2017-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: using the flash client from 443
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: there is something wrong with my client and i dont know how to fix it... the client recieves infor but doesnt give me things like my moves or time to next quest and stuff when prompted
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: try prompt all
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: nah is ok... ill try again later
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: prompt all resets your prompt
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: help prompt
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: if your not going to use the answer, don't ask the question
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Edgy
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maruxus Tech: tense
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: how are you prompting your client to give you the information? like what command are you using for that? im curious...
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: I appologise I am a bit stressed right now, sorry Aldehyde
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: so i installed a new plugin and i can type in commands, but it doesnt give my prompt anymore... like hp mana and quest timer
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: how can i fix that?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: type prompt ?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: haha
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: why would it do that though?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess some of your plugins turned it off (maybe it was trying to examine settings or changing its settings)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: whats the plugin called that tracks exp rate and vorpals and gold per minute and stuff?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: that sounds like bast's stuff
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also sharptracker does that (but sharptracker is really simple plugin, though simple enough if you want to modify it a bit)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: bast one only does per hour summary, probably sharp tracker you are looking for
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: hello, i got a trigger question:  i made a trigger for DISARMS you and sends your.    and for the send: get dagger wear dagger,   it doesnt always work if the text is red or cyan color, i have match set to any, bold italic off, so what am i doing wrong
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: you could make a screenshot from that trigger. 
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k591/Coeus26/disarm_zpsnloiwrhj.jpg
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: try *DISARMS you*
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: okies
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yeah, MUSH is looking for ONLY DISARMS you in that case. You need the * in front and behind it.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: nope doesnt work still
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Is it just not firing? Or how are you testing it?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: im fighting these mobs that disarm
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Okay, and is it just not firing?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: ya
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Color of text shouldn't matter with the trigger.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: i think its the color, the game uses cyan
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley is psychic.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You could even test it's not the color by turning colors off and letting the mob disarm you again.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not sure what to tell you, because that trigger should work.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: ok with color off, its works
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: even the sound wav i set up fired off
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: yay!
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: but its no color :(
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That's super weird then, that it fires when color is off, but not when colors are on.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: didnt you go to edit if your playing blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You don't have it searching for color in your trigger. Hmm.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: it shows all the numbers firing
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Color codes are ignored with triggers, unless you request to specifically match a certain color.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Vaevictus: Are you using the AardMUSH package?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: i think so?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: i downloaded mushclient from the aardwolf site
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Just tested on my end, fired for colored and non-colored.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh, I see why now.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You unticked Bold/Italic/Inverse. You shouldn't have.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Tick those options again, and it will work.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: ok, ill go test it
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaevictus Tech: not working anymore
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Delete what you have. Copy the text here, and click 'Paste' in the trigger windows. https://pastebin.com/fwxkUc4R
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: If /that/ doesn't work, then you have a setting somewhere that's messing with it, and I wouldn't know which one.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So yeah, pretty sure Quantum is replacing Chrome as my preferred browser.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: it probably will for alot of people untill chrome responds in kind.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dendrix Tech: I've always used FF on windows and Chrome on Linux. Chrome just handles better on most linux variants then FF does. As of yesterday, I'm FF across the board.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ethen Tech: What config should I toggle to hide coordinates when moving and the chan ch=channelName for channel messages? It somehow started appearing and no idea how tu do something about it.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: sounds like your plugins that use that info aren't working
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: have you recently changed anything?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ethen Tech: yeah, I removed lots of plugins related to map stuff. I'm going to use them as well, but want to know how to turn it off just in case
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: well
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you can use tags to toggle on and off various messages that you're referring to
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: tags coords
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ethen Tech: oh super interesting, Thanks a lot!
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: interesting.. I'm surprised there's no gmcp equivilents for these tags that seems like it would be easy to implement
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Speaking of tags, does vanilla AardMUSH not use roomchars?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: it does not
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: at least mine doesn't :)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: it probably doesn't need it cause it can get the room info from GMCP in the background
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Have a MUSHClient trigger (plugin) that should be firing on some text, but it's not.  Can anyone think of any clever tricks to figure out what else would be preventing this?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe if you show the text and the trigger pattern
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: You mean here in the channel?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Oh, it should be firing on "You are not on a global quest."
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And your match?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: match="You are not on a global quest."
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: regexp="n"?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Not regexp
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: shouldn't matter
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I guess that's true
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: should be you are not in a global quest i think
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Trigger is part of a group that does get turned on.  As soon as it fires, the group should turn off, but that trigger never fires... *boggle*
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: zoot is correct
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish enthusiastically high-fives Zoot!
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: HAHAHAHA
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: When testing triggers, I always try "echo " command, can copy and paste from the trigger.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Ahem... thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: I wonder if that was a typo that was changed or I just overlooked it
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess the "clever trick" in this case is to make sure that you know what the text is
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Guess I was constantly looking for a more complex problem and I overlooked a simple part
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Occam's Razor
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: I'd rather make myself look stupid here in Tech than to bash my face into my keyboard for the next couple hours not solving it though
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ehh - lot of times we are quick to spot errors like that because we've made them ourselves :)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Haha fair enough
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But you see why verbal descriptions of what you are trying to do are less useful than direct copying and pasting :)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Yeah, you're right
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Though I stand by my suspicion that MUD message might have changed at some point during the couple years I haven't been playing.  I swear that trigger worked before.  lol
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it didn't.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it's always been in, not on
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: darn
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah Gquests were completely revamped, very likely that changed.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I know quite a few changed.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The entire message might be different, but it was never "on the global quest"
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Bast's stuff has a copy-paste of the old messages too which says "on"
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: *shrug*
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: is there a way with mapper to cause a direction to trigger the mapper command?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: for example in ft2 with fstar... can i make it where i type down and it launches the cexit?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you just cexit it, it should use it anyways
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: the best way is to auto create a cexit
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: let me elaborate... I have a script that when I go a direction (using the numpad) autoopen doors when 'the * is closed'
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: is easy to add to that a autocreate a cexit
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: hmm I didn't know that was allowed or I would have thought it would already be in the mapper functionality
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: if you ALWAYS do that it could be a problem, so I added a plag to it 'I am exploring' or 'not exploring'
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: cool
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: flag*
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: fiendish... no problems with 5.6 pre ?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: define problems
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: it crashes once a day
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is that a question or a statement?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: a definition i think
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: or an example probably
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: KitCarson: are you asking me if the latest mushclient crashes once per day?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: staement... mine mush which never crashed for a month+, now crashes once a day (more or less)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: give me more information about your computer
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: win xp
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: 32bit
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: you can laugh :)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: hah, theres your guy running xp that you were looking for fiend :p
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Form Aldehyde Tech: ie... 4 score and five hundred years ago :P
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: KitCarson: what release version are you using?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the OS that is more malware than Microsoft now.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I booted up my XP laptop the other day to pull files from it
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Need to replace the LCD backlights
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: 5.06 pre... the last (no... the previous one) you released
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: They are fluorescent tubes and apparently don't glow so well anymore :)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 5.06-pre is not meaningful data. type checkversion
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: You are currently using Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: r1944
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: sorry, thought we were speaking about mush vers
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: package version is a build of mush
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: KitCarson: did you see my note on mudinfo about testers for a mushclient experiment?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: my fault... I missed it :(
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: don't worry about that. please try the download in that note
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: let me know if the problem goes away or not
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: there is a lod or a dump I can help you with ?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mudinfo note 1750
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: ok... downloadiùng it... too late in the nite to upgrade now :) you'll have my news tomeooùrrow 
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: take some Jet Alert and stay up
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: starling speak as you eat... or at least as I drink :)=
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i wonder if any skyscraper has slides for going down fast
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: fun and fast
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skrleth Tech: A lot of tech places have slides
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Anybody particularly familiar with ZMQ socket options?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: New firefox out?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Any opinions on it?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Has been.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: very nice. very fast.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it's different and I hate change
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's convinced me to switch back from Chrome.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: raded is a h8r :(
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: does it still slow down and die from watching youtube vids?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Quit being obtuse, Raded.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Firefox 57, I believe it is?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Firefox Quantum is 57, yes.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded looks at Rex Daemon Crowley and goes "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: It'll be about damned time if they fixed that issue.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: What issue?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's fixed memory issues, for sure.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Plus, Starling, you can open up 100 tabs now and not have to worry much!
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I usually have 100 to 150 tabs open, heh
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skrleth Tech: Why would you ever open a hunred tabs?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Because she does that.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skrleth Tech: Fair enough
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I read a lot
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Plus have lots of tabs open for information reference, e.g. Lua stuff, roominator, aardwiki areas list, nick gammon website, lots of science/physics/electrics random stuff
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: I can't read.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: audio mud
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: use the vi stuff
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: duh
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: I can't understand when people talk to me.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: quit snorting ketamine
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: It is only one of my problems.  The other is related to ZMQ in Cray's chapel language.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: If someone knows the proper way to set a socket timeout for a REQ/REP, it would help me.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Though I suspect they haven't added it to the language yet.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: 300$ headphones insides.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1yizB0zVyQN6rQJo1bMfXthjYuSRaf8v9
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: total 25$?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: probably less
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: gonto walmart and buy fabric softner
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: oh someone did a teardown of some beats headphones, all components total cost was $16
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: and 4 metal weights inside
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm surprised it was that much
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well sure, the weights make them feel like they're built solid
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i try to repair mine now
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: dre beats "mono-phones"  ?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: JBL headphone are garbage as well, the metal band on the outside has no structural significance at all, it's purely cosmetic and glued on.  The earphones are held on by two thin pieces of cheap plastic that break during normal use and can't be fixed.  Absolute crap.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: i seriously pmsl when I see anyone wearing those pamella anderson tit headphones
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: I walk around wearing sony mx 120's
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: worth about $200 and it's all cash to frequency response
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I'm using bone conduction headphones from Trekz
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Err, AfterShokz
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the headphones I'm using now, I had to sets but one broke and the other's connector broke, it was fun soldering the cable conductors together.  Lots of heatshrink and electrical tape though :P
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: quality products don't break like that
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: are there *any* durable, quality headphones, because it seems like even the hundreds-of-dollars ones are cheap crap.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: yeah if you go dre
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i advertised a set to a friend as "unbreakable". the next day the cable split
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: look into sony or technics
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: tech -h
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: technics is #1 pro DJ choice
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: like the 1210's
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: eh. many are good
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrn Tech: I have a 20 year old pair of sennheiser's that I've replaced the earpads and cable a couple times (designed to be replaced)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my dad used the headphones from a C130 cockpit that he adapted to have a regular headphone plug...not great audio quality but they lasted forever ;-)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: honestly, one of the best sets of headphones I've had (still have) are a cheapie 20 dollar pair of Sony's
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You step on them by accident and the earphone pops off, but it's held on by a metal pin and as long as you don't lose that, you can make it go back together with more or less effort
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: if you liked sony, you will be even happier with Technics
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: my coworker had a model of beyerdynamics that looked like from 50s. sounded awesome. never needed a cable repair
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: serious pro DJ audio hardware
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrn Tech: I have a beyerdynamic headset that I've used for probably 1k hours with no problems too
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: technics make the infamous 1210's that are used in the DMC (world DJ championships)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: and their headphones are just as serious
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i have been using a logitech g230 headset for 5 years before a minor part broke.  cable is nylon wrapped, won't split. bought another pair immediately when these got small damage. still haven't taken it out of the shipping box because these aren't damaged enough
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the cable issue was easy to fix, just need to be delicate with the soldering iron.  It drives me up the wall that when the cheap plastic breaks, there's literally no adhesive that will make it go back together again.  You can't even clamp it because of the stupid cosmetic details getting in the way.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: erm well, if your going to invest in a serious piece of audio hardware it makes sense to look after it no and not "accidentally tread on it" ?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: accidents happen...
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: yeah, no, I need something that has a bit of disaster-proofing
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: This is me we're talking about
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: plastic breaks, metal twists
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: not if the steel is thick enough
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: my advice would be to find a mid range cost from sony and stick with them
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: if they break beyond repair, buy another set
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: technics is pro level
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: sony is next best and value for dollar
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: Arrdwolf, there are many better brands
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: dozens
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: like dre beats?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm skeptical of "flashy" headphones, they 'look' durable, but it's so easy to disguise cheap, brittle crap with cosmetic details
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: depends on taste
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: frequency range output at decibel levels is most cost efficient in sony
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: care to educate me otherwise?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: honestly, a pilot headset with better sound quality would be pretty much ideal
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You don't just "break" aviation headsets
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You pretty much have to destroy them, or else crash the plane in which case you have bigger problems
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You say that now but what happens when you fly your house into the side of a mountain??
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: depends on taste if you are after music. or if eq puritan - dt48 or .. whatever. i dont know those really
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: I think you will find headsets used in aeronautics have extremely limitid frequency range and thus would suck for all music except classical and tbh, who gives a fuck about classical music
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I also wonder if an aviation headset would be shitty for music
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I don't know, I'll let you know when I put engines and wings on it
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: with the original speakers, of course it would.  You'd have to change them out.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: if you have a soldering iron, electrical tape and can switch out headphone drivers, why not just build your own set??
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: have considered that also
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: classical music is some of the most demanding on headphones...
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but aero headsets are designed for voice
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: this guy is so noob it's unreal
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: however, you can replace the speakers in the headsets if you want the industrial durability with better sound quality
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Probably easier (and maybe cheaper?) just to get a wireless set
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wireless set takes the connector out of the equation, but not the rest of the breakability
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah I came in on this conversation midway, I'm not sure where Starling's set broke.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: wow, abelinc and I are agreeing on a lot lately.  Has someone replaced him with an Agreeable Abe?  Or maybe a Sensible Starling.  It can't be the latter so it has to be Agreeable Abe.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling peers at you intently. 
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're saying less wrong stuff lately }:>
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: abelinc agrees with you when you are speaking the facts. 
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: unpossible
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: abelinc!
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: controlled confirmed facts
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: LISTEN if you want to build your own, go buy 8" headphone drivers made with kevlar, slap them into a titanium custom frame and attach the jack, otherwise stick to technics (for pro quality) or sony (for next best)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: 8 inch headphone drivers? :p
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 8" headphone drivers...
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: yes...
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I guess we know what Arrdwolf thinks 8 inches is
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in his presence.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: haha
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: obviously none of you have built your own headphones in the past
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: please keep it professional, metria
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: umm.. there are dozens of better brands than sony and technics
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sony maybe used to be good quality, but they have really slipped over the last 2 decades
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I highly doubt you have, either, Arrdwolf.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: yeah like dre beats
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: beats are the best
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: if you have, i know for a fact you didnt use 8 inch drivers :p
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: they're made by dr dre
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: hell yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: My laptop has beats speakers.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: and sounds like a reatrded mouse squeaking, yeah great
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrn Tech: I have the Beats Chris Brown Signature Edition
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Mine doesn't sound like a retarded mouse.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: omfg
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley pats Arrdwolf on his head.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Do you put them on and get a black eye?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: sony has a few good models and i think 2 legendary.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: thats not much really
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: none of you have a clue about pro audio tech
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: oh yeah?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Everybody brace yourself, we're about to be schooled
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: we are
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Neither do you, so quit frontin' like you have a clue.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, my living room speakers are audiopro :P
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Full-blown Celebrity sits corrected
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: my walkman is better than yours
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I'm saving up for a portable CD player now
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: I know how to operate 48 channel mixers from the master volume to the frequency ranges to the queue timers, actually
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Duh, set it all to 11.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: pro style
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: DUDE
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: my gf bought this little like idk lunch bag looking thing with speakers in it
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc used to have an AudioPro 1200 for gigs
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: and inside driving the speakers was a walkman!!!
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh wow, I am SO IMPRESSED!
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: like an 80's walkman
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Abelinc used to be in a band called 1023 megabytes, they didn't have any gigs
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Walkmans are coming back into style. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea this one is sweet
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: yes if you are homosexual
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: so retro
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Xaeris Tech: Yeah - not appropriate Arrd :P
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: like those that lick dre's ass and pay $300 for $10 worth of tech, g style
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Eminem and another artist released albums out on cassette.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my walkman still works...but I also have a panasonic portable CD player which has SCSI built in to connect to computer :-)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: Eminem is the great white american hope
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Mom's spaghetti
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Reminds me of Bloodhound Gang's "Great White Dope"
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I do like decent audio equipment :)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: o.k
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: but I buy $20 earphones
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: let me get this right...
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You need some gold plated MONSTER CABLES
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: yea, get it right
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i bought a set of sennheisers to my brother 10 years ago, i think he used them to test his new lawnmower. still working fine:)}
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sennheiser makes good headphones...then again, they've always had a $10k pair as an option :P
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: abelkinc is 1. a top lawyer, 2.an old school biker gangster 3. an old skool dj 4. a womaniser 5. a tech ninja 6. a hardcore underground coder 7. anything he dreams in his sad lonely imagination
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I do buy 10-20 dollar earphones 
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: they assemble those in germany. so. thats why they are expensive
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You give Abelinc too much credit.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NewDaddy Korridel Tech: Let's not personally attack (even if it's mild).
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: He's only a second rated lawyer.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: he's full of shit
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I do havea poster of abelinc and chuck norris in my room
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: he has a 5 star rating on airbnb
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: my heroes
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You're treading on ice, Arrd.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: my OS/2 screensaver... it's abelinc
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'd stop while you were ahead.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I've got pretty good credentials for 4 of those things, anyway :-)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and the reason I buy 20 dollar earphones is because I lose them too often
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: considering I actually put effort into understanding instead of impressing, I can tell a fake a billion miles off
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: you buy a 100|$ ones once. youll not gonna lose those
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: and abelinc is a HUGE fake
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I have so many headphones here. Wireless, wired, over-the-ear, in-ear... so many.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: oh yes I will
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: probably a scamster
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yet you buy 8" headphone speakers...
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: gb Arrdwolf!
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Seriously, Arrdwolf, an Imm has already told you to knock it off.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I lost two pairs of shure 535s in a few months
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: then I lost a pair of goldrings
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: then I lost my AKGs
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: long live the fakers then
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrdwolf Tech: bye
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: so, $20 earphones it is :)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Good riddance.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: the 8" headphone drivers thing was classic
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: someone needs to put that on aardquotes
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: arddquotes?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: then we can all upvote it
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Can't downvote them anymore.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: daoine quote's replacement
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I just lose crap when I travel :)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I think he was being funny and misspelled arrd.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only Shure equipment I have is XLR microphones
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I used to buy their earphones
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (SM58s)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: those are spit and bang-proof
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to go into the pro audio gear I don't have for when I didn't make money as a DJ ;-)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: if you spit on your headphones, you have issues.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: because I like the foam they use, vs silicone
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and I like in-ears
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: kids. when soldering, wear glasses! a junk of that stuff just exploded everywhere
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: or close your eyes. 
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, solder by feel
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kash puts on a pair of 8" headphones.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: the weird thing about those 300$ phones are that there was no mechanism to prevent the wear and tear. the wire was pretty much hanging on the solder. not even a nut.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i guess they assume if you pay that much, you'll gonna baby them 
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea people are always saying things like "you get what you pay for", nah most of the time you get a LOT less than what you paid for
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: they just ask as much they can. its ok
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: theres a sweet spot with things like that, and a lot of companies charge that much because they know people will pay it
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: if i'd make a headphone company, i would rip your behind off so bad you wont be able to tell your mom. 
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: honestly it shouldnt be difficult for a company to make a $100 pair of headphones using around 50-60$ worth of parts and make money doing it
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you think they're using $60 worth of parts, I have a nasty surprise for you
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you're paying for sound quality usually
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: metria it was hypothetical
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: of course, there are many companies that dont give you that
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I came to a realization tonight
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: when arrdwolf described all the different jobs that abelinc has
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn rules over this land of Arwolf with an iron fist.  Hrm.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: sound quality comes from the quality of the drivers used, in most cases they use drivers that cost a few dollars per pair
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I started to realize he must be what "in living color"'s "Hey Mon" is based on
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: production cost? you have to factor in R&D
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that's like saying medicine companies sell medicine that costs <1c to produce
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: does abelinc have a jamaican accent?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i guess if r&d is "buy the cheapest headphone driver you can find, make a frame and put weights in it" then sure
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only when marley is playing
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: thats worth millions right there
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades grins evilly at you.  Hmmm.  Better keep your distance. 
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: ok. i broke those 300$ phones forgood now
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You roll on the floor, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: crap. so fn crap
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: those were grados
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: so you know
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but what we're all dying to know is how big were the drivers?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: grados are nice
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: damnit what is that site that has all the audio stuff that i can never remember the name of?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: 3cm drivers. or less
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: musician's friend ftw
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: yeah. unrepairable now. hell with them. cable broke twice. the rod got loose. tried to solder. a thing broke there when tried to adjust a wire. they suck. w
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Compromus Tech: which model of pioneer mixer would be best for my 3 1210's rig?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Compromus Tech: mixing heavy dark drum and bass
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Well it depends on how big your speakers are. Are they at least 8"?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Compromus Tech: how big? sorry sir, I was under the impression that size doesn't matter
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's just what your mommy tells you to make you feel better
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Compromus Tech: touche
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you shouldn't touche it, that's dirty
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Compromus Tech: like your mom
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You jump in the air and give a BIG high five to Compromus!
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you know her?
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Compromus Tech: d00d you connected with nothing but ur mom
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Compromus Tech: I was also under the impression that 8 inches was a joke (as in far too big to haNDLE)
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your sister handles 10" just fine }:>
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Only if I fold it in half!
T3/r7/2017-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc fires off a rimshot
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: does bast have an update/fix for the opk bonus in quest?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i thought it worked i his latest version?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: are there any other wireless earphones like the samsung iconx with inbuilt storage so you don't have to have a music player?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: is there an easy way with bast's eqsets to recalculate the scores for eq? ex. after a class change?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: does anyone remember the command that shows all the memory usage for currently running scripts?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: plugins
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc it's part of Bast's stuff, so you only have the command if you've got his stuff loaded
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hahaha that broke mushclient for me
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: need to backup everything before I run that again.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: makes memory use less of a problem if mush quits
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: not really
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: is there a way to increase the timeout time so i don't time out just cause i end uo using a little too long time reasing something?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: What do you mean?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You shouldn't time out just reading something...
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It takes a LONG time to time out as a result.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make a timer which just hits "enter" every 10 mins and you won't get logged off for inactivity
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: well, i happens occaisionally that if i don`t do any activity and just read the communication loog i end up getting logged out
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s-VHStyemo
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: keep alive timers is bad idea, unless it is executed in a safe room
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: seems most MUD have a auto log out after a couple of minutes which i kinda find annoying tbh >-<
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sitting around idle only wastes resources
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: resources are dirt cheap nowadays though.  This isn't 1998.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's 15-20 minutes, not a couple minutes
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what are those resources otherwise doing?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: ofc, i understand why there's timeout but i like when they are adjustable the same way as the game speed is
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: i see
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I recommend timer rather than the trigger that the video uses, as it wastes less resources ;-)
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: imagine you are in a room and you drown, then your corpse stays in that room and keep alive timer happily keeps you on till it rots
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: i see^^
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I have a trigger on my 'tick' output that sends a CR
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 10 minute timer means that it doesn't have to scan every line coming from the MUD for a match...
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is even more dangerous situation, you are in aggro room and go afk and your keep alive timer turns you into bot :P
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's on the player to avoid, though
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just running a spellup script will ordinarily keep you logged in...
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: unless you use afk
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Have you done testing to see whether running a timer or a trigger makes any difference?  Mush seems to not really hiccup with thousands of triggers....
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've happily stayed connected 24/7 for over a decade without any bad things
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, right, however spellup plugin won't rot your corpse if you die
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: afk as currently implemented is retarded
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my spellup script would :-)
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: wow, I'm glad I didn't say that, but I agree ;)
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it really shouldn't lock everything out
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It should allow you to cast spellup spells, for sure.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a great concept, an immediately-visual cue that the player isn't there to talk to, with a message...but gimping the player for a minute or 2 when they come back means there's no way I'd ever use it
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: A huge percentage of the MUD probably refuse to use AFK just for that reason alone.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it would be nice to transfer player into safe zone (manor, aylor) when he is really AFK - I mean when he has not sent any command for 5 minutes or so
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have a plugin for that, actually
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to my website, click scripts...scroll to the bottom for MUSHclient plugins, very last one, autosafe
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I have an 'uncommanded aggro' script that can disconnect me if I don't respond to it within a few seconds
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: so my phone isnt setup as google suggested. i need to get rid of scroll back settings off
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, neat
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: i have no clue about any of this scrips and trigger bussiness yet so i will have to look into that at some time later i guess ^^"
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: springfield: are you using the aardwolf MUSHclient package on a computer?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: well, i think so, i downloaded and installed sooo
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the one with the clicky map on the right, the chats at the top, etc.?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK good...that's a good base for the scripts we're referencing...they're pretty easy to add
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: there are only 3 commands that will tell that script to disregard - kill, backstab, brandish.  Combat starting for other reasons makes it trip.  I could add thief skills to it as well but too lazy
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: by what i have seen it seem pretty straight forward but i just haven't read up on it's use yet...
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: alas, brandish isn't very good now that it has that obscene 6 second lagtime
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: 6 second? Didn't last that long for me.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what she said
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: xD
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Thought Lasher upped the lag on brandish to 2 full rounds, i.e. 6 seconds?  Or did he revert that after fixing the issues leading up to it?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Think he changed it back.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: 3 second lag.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: btw, just wondering, is there a way to pipe different channels into their own log or? unlikely i know but had to ask^^"
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: soooo....
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: somethinv to do with color
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: i see
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish (the guy who maintains the client) has a tutorial for that on his site
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for now it requires duplicating the plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: i see, seems reasonable
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Communication-log-window#creating-multiple-log-windows
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some places to get some great info on using the client: http://abelinc.me/aardclientfaq, http://abelinc.me/mapper, http://abelinc.me/hosch
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (note that http://abelinc.me is just my tinyurl-like thing...if you put a ~ after any of those URLs, it'll show you where it points rather than taking you straight there)
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: since most windows here is a plugin you could put a fork or redirect on the communication log onbe and have it redirect or copy the input into another plugin that sort out different channels based on channels names is the first thing i would though would be a way do it ^^
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: though i guess that is jkust overcomplicated solution
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: just
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, it would need to actually make that other window first...
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: yeah, fair point
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's really about the same thing as Fiendish's method of duplicating the comm log plugin, and having one not use the channels that the other uses...that duplication handles all the drawing, right-click options, etc.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: i see^^
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Springfield Tech: well, am lazy atm so i think i might decide to stick with how it is atm cause i like to suffer apparently >_<
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: can you help me with phones keyboard. i need half the screen
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: make LOTS of buttons
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: and use button sets to set up multiple grouped pages
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: got everything but the text. its small and default?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Anyone good with writing a plugin? I am looking to have a group spellup plugin where I can spellup everyone in a group for epics and so on insteaf of having to type all the names for the members in the group.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I think that is botting Turie
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Don't even need a plugin for that.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If it is botting, screw it.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's not botting.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: doesn't sound like botting to me
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: It's not botting
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's only botting if you do it on command.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: It might be, before you go further I would check it
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Tol: It's not botting.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: It's simply directing the spellup command to a group member.  Would be a pretty simple script to write, honestly
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: regarding spellups on others...if the groupmates trigger it, then it's botting...if you trigger it, then it's not botting
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: I believe he just wanted to be able to manually direct spellups to the group instead of having to type each name out.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: That's what I read out of the question.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: for _,members in pairs(gmcp("group.members")) do Send("spellup " .. members.name) end
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: In AardMUSH, is it possible save layout of miniwindows and such in 2 forms (1 for when I have my desktop plugged into larger screen, and 2 for when not?) and switch between easily?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: aard layout help
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Nice!
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a newish feature, so upgrade if you don't see it
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Got it, thanks much.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Does anyone know of a good quest/campaign stat tracker for MUSH?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: besides the bast one?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hadar updated Opochtli's sharptracker for the new exp bonuses as well
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to http://hadar.ninja to see that one
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but bast's statdb tracks everything nicely
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Any would be good, the one I installed isn't working correctly.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: mushclient keeps crashing today, I wonder what is going on
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: give more information
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I would love to
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok so do it
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: It happens when I am not looking and when its been on for more than an hour.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what OS
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it greys out and says that it has stopped responding and just hangs at the windows will look into it popup box.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Windows
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Windows what
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: windows 7 to be specific
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yeah, I wish I had more information
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when did it start happening
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I think the first time I noticed it was a few days ago when I remoted into my computer and saw it frozen, but then not again until this morning when I turned my monitors on. But now it seems to be happening when I am just looking at other windows
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Spellup script?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: using the Winkle spellup script
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: had to stop using Bast's when I was running under wine for a memory leak
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: really?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yeah, you were the one who helped me track down which plugin it was
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok uh...so...since you're not using wine right now maybe try switching back?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: also, the plugins command still nukes my client even under windows(another Bast special)
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wonder why
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I never could figure it out
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it works fine for me
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it kills my client and jacks all of my setting
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: are you up to date with everything?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: no idea what you are up to I am on r1920
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: package update check
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am using 1946
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am using the dll testing thing.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: working?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I was going to do the testing thing until I started getting issues
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: brb updating
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: updated
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: make sure to update bast's plugins too
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: Do you have a link for that Fiendish?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for what?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Bast's updates
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: updating Bast's plugins
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Try the command "bup check"
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: https://github.com/endavis/bastmush
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Basts stuff is updated also
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, the link for <anyone's> plugins is nearly always "finger <that person>"
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I was already at his Github I was just wondering if he had a nice updater like fiendish
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I meant from lundfu's question
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for bast you'd just unzip the folder into your plugins fold, no installer
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: gotcha. I've got the updates installed but still see no spellup miniwindow. it's installed and I can access it using "bsp" commands, but no window. Any ideas on how to get the window back?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Add plug called miniwin_spellup in Bast folder
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: got that one installed, but still nothing
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: could it be behind another mini window?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try mspell spellup front, then mspell spellup show
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: sweet!
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: got it back
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out http://abelinc.me/bastdocs for documentation on bast's stuff
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: how do i set a portal container?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: mapper help is thorwing me off for some reason
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: portal container?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: so it knows what bag to grab the portals out of.  
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Unless you have a script for it, you can make an alias for each portal that gets it from the bag
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if you mean how to tell it what bag to get portals from, pretty sure you have to set that in each mapper portal individually.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: e.g. "mapper portal get portal aardbag-02;;hold portal;;enter;;rem portal;;put portal aardbag-02"
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: right. the mapper portal command is just you telling the mapper, 'hey, when i do this sequence of commands, i end up in this room'
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: mapper portals are just like cexits, and in fact are stored in the exits table as if they were exits
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's a bit of a pain to set them up, but once set you don't need to mess with them again, usually
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: protip: use a bag's id number for your portal aliases or commands you use. never get stuck trying to use the wrong bag
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: plugins still boots me even with the updates
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: so for ecxample the am,mulet of aardwolf how would i make it so it took it right from my bag aard bag?  like mapper portal get amulet bag;amulet of aardwolf?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: im having to redo my whole aard so all my stauff is redone
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: I got an alias, use_portal %%1, take %%1 @portalbag, wear %%1, etcetc
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: for the special cases like aard amulet i have a specific alias: use_aard_portal - use_portal aard_amu_id
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: I havent been bothered to fix it properly, so i manually switch it between use_portal and enter, depending on what portal im wearing
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: hrm im sure there is some sort of thing online for it, im pretty sure i did something with it before like that
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i dont even know the command to use to list the portal!
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: all the other help files are real good
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: idk, mapper portal --portal alias/string of commands seperated with double ;--
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: just seems like there would be a mapper portalcontainer command
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: The "mapper help portals" command is just fine.  What you're confused about is that there is no built-in way to have a "portal bag" in the GMCP mapper.  You must have used another script at some point
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Just make an alias called 'portal' that does what you need it to do, then use mapper portal portal <portalname>
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: And there's no reason for the mapper to have it.  It doesn't have any built in inventory management.  It is simply just a custom exit that links to the room you're in.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, here's 2 ways to handle it...(1) if you use bast's eq stuff, you don't have to put in the name of a container..."get <this item>" put "put <this item>" will automatigally use the right container
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually, I'll do 3 ways...that's 1...(2) use a portal container variable...and in all of your mapper portal commands, use that variable...
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (3) this is the one that I use...abstract the entire "use a portal" into an alias...then each of your mapper portal commands can be "do_portal_alias <this portal>", and the alias will handle everything...then if you change bags, get the portal wish, change your always-held portal, whatever change, you only have to change that alias
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Birdbrain Metria wildly nods at you... what else can you get him to agree to?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I recommend reading hosch's mapper page...http://abelinc.me/hosch
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: #3 is the way to do it. It's easiest to use, easiest to keep updated.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he goes throuhg the entire thought process for dealing with portals, starting simple and going to the step *JUST*  before the one that gets you to my (3)
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: many people write that alias to have the portal be the only argument...the one I use has both portal and portalbag as arguments, as I have some portals in one bag, and some portals in another bag because of overlapping keywords (itemID is not an option for me)
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks!!! thgats the website i used firstr time i set this up
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i couldnt find it serching google, i kept coming up with something from gammon on a question and answert thread
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: with the mp01 and mp02 aliases
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's because Hosch's website is no longer up and you have to get it through archive.org
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: and couldnt figure it out
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mine's abstracted enough that it works on different characters with different wishes, portals and bags, as everything's a variable.../def do_portal_engine = /wake %; /eval /set portal_name=%1 %; /eval /set portal_container=%-1 %; /if (has_portal_wish=~"Y") /if (primary_portal=~portal_name) enter %; /return %; /endif %; /else /remdual %; /endif %; g $[portal_name] $[portal_container] %;/if (gmcp_room_info_num = 26151) d %; /endif %; wear $[portal_name] %; enter %; /if (has_portal_wish=~"Y") /wear_pri_portal %; /else /weardual %; /endif %; put $[portal_name] $[portal_container]
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Hey Dexx
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Using bast mushplugin, I keep getting "Trigger function "identify_redirect" not found or had a previous error." spammed at me, when I mouse over the eq window.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Any idea why that would be happening?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's not the actual error, that's the symptom you get after the real error. Did you get a different error message earlier?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Try reloading the plugin then, see what happens
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: I have to keep reopening mush after it happenes though, because now my screen isn't showing anything
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: I can still see the chat window though.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type checkversion please
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: You are currently using Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: r1944
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: It seems to happen when I mouse over the eq window to much
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Are your bast plugins up to date?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: we'll need to know what the first (actual) error message is
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: I just downloaded them today, and when i log they say they are.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Metria is right that the "previously had an error" message isn't what we need
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: it doesn't give me an error message, it just starts spamming the one I posted
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: I'll reopen and replicate to try again, one sec
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: anyone mind explaining what portalrecall and bounce portals are.. i'm a little confused
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: i'm not sure what is going on with those guys
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: did you read 'mapper help search portalrecall'?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: not that particular help.. one moment
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Yea, no popup error message first message I see showing and error is "Trigger function "identify_redirect" not found or had a previous error."
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: some rooms are no_recall, some no_portal. Set bouncerecall to whatever recall command you want the mapper to try and exit with (e.g. home, recall). Set bounceportal to whatever portal you want to exit with if the room happens to be no_recall
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Oh wait.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: I will note it to you fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: please note it publicly
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: other people should also have the chance to offer assistance
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Publically, which board then?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: tech
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunpeal: check out http://abelinc.me/mapper
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: oh i see
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: some rooms.. no recall.. other no portal.. i get it
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: that simplifies it thanks tipro
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: cool i'll take a look
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: whats the setting to be enabled to make it where the double semi colon enables the stacked command for mapper
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: oh wow.. the mapper does this automatically.. awesome..
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that should always be the case...it's game -> configure -> commands, enable stacking, and have the stack character be ;
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: ok, I posted the note
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the double-; is just a standard MUSHclient way to allow you to send a ;...you can either prepend a command with a ;, or you can double every ; within the command...
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks!  it keeps on breaking my command up
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for example, you could do "gos I like to use a ;; in my gossips"...or you could ";gos I like to use a ; in my gossips"
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, what exact command are you sending? (you can use "semi" instead of the char to make sure it gets to us) if you're using an alias to call an alias to call an alias, you'd need to increase the ;-nesting
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: would making an alias clientside cause that not to work?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the alias client-side would cause it to need an extra ;
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: like i took the mp02 * alias from the website and it is splitting it up
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, you'd type the alias, your alias will see ";;" and turn it into ";" and hand it off to the mapper command
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: and do the alias client side right?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: mapper portal get %1 ortal_bag;hold %1;enter;rem %1;hold portal_item;put %1 ortal_bag
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: mapper portal get %1 @portal_bag;hold %1;enter;rem %1;hold portal_item;put %1 @portal_bag
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thats my alias for mp02 **
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: or mp02*
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: so I would type mp02 amulet or the id and it would fire it, but it isnt working!
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you made an alias "mp02", where "mp02 amulet" will use the amulet, then what you want to put into mapper is "mapper portal mp02 amulet", no ;s necessary in the mapper command
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok getting close hgere
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks so much! i just needed to change the double semis
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: how do i turn on id numbers for my equipment in my aardbag?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Are you using mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Install and use the inventory_serials plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: i think it is installed, it prompt me once but i never turned it on, know the help for it?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I don't, not off the top of my head
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: ah ok
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can try reinstalling it
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's inventory serials on
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: inventory serials help.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: should it give a number to everything in my bag or do I need to take it all out?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Have to pull them out.
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: figured, once they are out will they maintain the number when put back in the bag?
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: obviously I am going to try and set up an alias for my equipment sets
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The serial number is part of the object and never changes
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can also see that number with identify
T3/r7/2017-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can invdata a container and it'll give you all the ids i think
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Alright I'm starting to remove my initial love of the bast plugin....it keeps getting errors that require me to close and reopen the window
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what's wrong with it?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: by window I mean the game
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: i.e. what is it doing?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: I got this "Trigger function "help_redirect" not found or had a previous error." after trying to access 2 helpfiles (it gave and error after me trying read the first one.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the help plugin has a known issue in it which can be avoided by avoiding certain help files
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/endavis/bastmush/issues/15
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: So I should stay away from the class helps
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: likely
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or reload the plugin after reading them
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: can a plugin reinstall itself?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: yea, it wouldn't even read the first one.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: i.e. can I put a 'reinstall' button in my plugin so I don't have to pull up shift-ctrl-P every time?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Starling: yes but you have to do it with DoAfterSpecial
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: I was trying to look at the subclass helpfiles
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods at Kiss my Gritznakka.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Gritznakka: yeah, any help file that doesn't end with -----------------------------------------------------------
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: So, I noticed that Lua resembles C in a lot of ways, and C programs that made zero sense to me before are now readable to me.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: So uhm anyone wanna explain the difference between soldier and blacksmith here?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ylar nods at Real ninja Starling.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's weird. I find that the more I program in Lua the less I understand C
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I just wish lua had normal switch cases..
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: blacksmith has hammering blow and hammerswing and hammerforge and tempering
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Gritz, do allspells soldier and allspells blacksmith, then help those individual files.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: soldier has flank and precision and battle training and dual wield with any weapons
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Maybe I should make "S&D C", has a nice ring to it ;)
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've never found a need for switch statements
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: theyre really only useful in specific circumstances
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: well you just do if elseifs right?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the biggest thing I really miss when programming in Lua is a standard library
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Pwar: right
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I wish Lua would change ~= to !=
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: All warrior subclasses have hammering blow
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think Matlab also uses ~
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I just like the ease and readability of switch(variable) case "1": case "2": probably just what I am used to from ansi c
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Gritznakka: more attacks with hammering blow when using a hammer
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Starling: Can just use if not this = that then :P
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: have to agree...that ~= kept throwing me off for a while, when I was trying to read plugins.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods at Rex Daemon Crowley.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea the ~= really threw me off in lua
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: if not a = b then this else that end
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: though I got way too comfortable with X and Y or Z expressions in Lua. In Python they become dangerous because 0 is false in Python but not in Lua
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: same thing as: if a ~= b then this else that end
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it would be nice if Lua had a proper ternary operator
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because I use that all the time
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I wonder when ternary computers will become a thing
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably never
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I dunno, they can have better performance than binary
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I thought they were only better at processing certain types of equations though
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there was some noise about trigits back in the early 2000s I think, but then nothing happened with them
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ok my question is this... why cant mushclient do more than one search when i hit ctrl+f?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I also am not the biggest fan of the array (table) implementation in lua
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Kash: because you have to use Shift+Ctrl+F
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Kash, you can do find again "shift-ctrlF"
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: mush's ctrl-F leaves much to be desired.  I wish it were more like the search feature in Notepad++
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Aww, he beat me to it
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think Lua tables are super elegant
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: ugh it must be from prior languages I learned but it seems so awkward to me
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what is the ternary operator used for?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: shorthand.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Starling: inline decisions
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: a ? b:c is if a is true, evalutate to b, otherwise c.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but it lets you do things like ->   print("Hello my name is"..(a>5 and "Fiendish" or "Starling"))
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which you can't do in one line otherwise
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: So why not Python as Aard's "official script language" ?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Python is hard to embed across platforms
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there's really no great windows installer for it
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I see.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Python is also fat
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: You get all of Lua in a 360Kb DLL
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: KB
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: tintin++ ftw
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: can use python all day
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can use python in MUSHclient too
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient works with anything supported by the windows scripting host
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but you have to install python and then do the magic incantation to get it to register with the system
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: my mushclient didnt log the stuff i need *sniff
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: umless uo
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: you get a hacked version of python 
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: but highly doubtful
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: physics says we a bunch of wiggling strings
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: abelinc is
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are they philotic strings?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish is a bunch of wiggling reeds
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I pulled his wiggling string
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Your mom pulled his wiggling string.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: curious, does typing "cls" do anything on MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It doesn't, Abelinc.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Sends a blank line, it looks like, so the command is entered, but the screen isn't cleared.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, I take that back - it doesn't on the AardMUSH package. I don't know about vanilla.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, only cared about that one
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why would cls do something?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you mean because of the utility command?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: cls clears my screen
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, MUDside help file says it's to clear the screen.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: think I should implement it?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: see help cls
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: why would you want to clear the screen?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I've never really used it on my end.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling nods at Rex Daemon Crowley.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: I fail to see the benefit as well
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it should be pretty easy to implement
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: it is really helpful
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it can be handy to separate things for readability, but I'd say not worth implementing probably
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient does already have its own clear command, of course
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I do use it in terminals
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Twas brillig and the slithy toves. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Shift+Ctrl+C
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: it's equivalent to flushing the toilet
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Are you SURE you want to clear all 9869 lines in the output window? <-- Love the capitalized SURE.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I had typed "commands", glancing through those and reminded myself of the command, so was curious if it'd impact the MUSHclient output
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, in terminals, it doesn't clear the scrollback, merely the current display
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Though I believe the terminal versions of cls just add a bunch of blank lines, still allowing you to scroll back up to the cleared content
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I think it may have been more useful on strict telnet in the past. Not so much now, in my opinion.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: nobody really knows what cls stands for
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Precisely what it does.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, clear screen...
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: clear screen...
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I do recall using it now, when the terminal display glitched out, would reset it and make it display properly again
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: combat life saver
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: but has been almost 20 years since I used such a terminal to mud
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: im talking about my friend. cls. she is a hipster with no vowels, nobody knows what she stands for, politically
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it probably has some uses and is worth implementing
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh now this is interesting
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think the mud response to cls might be wrong
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: hm?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 4% - does that mean that there are 25 different tasks ?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: what is the safe trigger pattern we can use to prevent our characters from timing out? e.g., falling asleep/ then smile?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if roomnum and not (tonumber(roomnum) == home) then return to home end; if in home "unafk", spellup, "afk" end
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: execute something similar on match="Your eyes glaze over."
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: guys can you do me a favour? come to Entrance to The Arena of Doom and attack tier. i am testing out how a client i am building handles load.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: does mushclient have two running processes?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: now I am losing the "I" key on my keyboard
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Just gotta start referring to yourself in the third person.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: But his name has an 'i' in it.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Time for a rename!
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zxax Xaxz Tech: Pleades approves of ths
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: we use the "royal we", subject mendaloth
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Leveling Wonder Tech: im a noob... how do i project my stats on anychannel...
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Using a script
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Leveling Wonder Tech: when i have an addon that i cant remember
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: we dont want you to do that
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Leveling Wonder Tech: need some commands
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I kinda want it
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Leveling Wonder Tech: everyone wants some wonder in their life
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I thought maybe mendaloth's, but it kinda sounds like the opposite of fake tracker channel
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Leveling Wonder Tech: how can i see what addons i have
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Leveling Wonder Tech: might make it easier
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Leveling Wonder Tech: using mush
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Mendaloth's instinct/mastery works like: report instinct <chan>
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so if it is Mendaloth's - then probably report stats <chan> or similar
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: to see what addons you have press Ctrl+Shift+P
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: \\\Debug("summary")    will also include the plugins
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: or if you have bast plugins the typing plugins works as well
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Kathan Tech: I haven't used the mushclient for a while. Is there a way to split my main screen so I can keep part of the text from scrolling out of view?
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glade Tech: you can resize the text window
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: No split capabilities.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not at the moment
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can still scroll up, but it won't be split screen.
T3/r7/2017-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Kathan Tech: ah well
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Woubuc Tech: If I want to build my own MUD client, is it okay to just test it with Aardwolf, or will I get blocked if I open e.g. 20 new connections in rapid succession or something?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Woubuc Tech: (I hope this is the right channel for my question)
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: you can log into the test port with your test client. Post a note asking for access.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Woubuc Tech: Where do I post that note?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: What exactly is a macro and how would i use it?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: whats the latest ms frame work_
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: does anyone use a projector as thier primary monitor?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: has anyone run mush or another medium to play aard, on a chromebook?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: https://www.howtogeek.com/173353/how-to-run-windows-software-on-a-chromebook/
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think if you're able to install Wine then you can run Mush on it
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but you need Intel Chromebook
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or install VM
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pub's Snooky points excitedly at A Nimwit Pleiades!
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I remote to a windows desktop all the time to play aard from my chromebook
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: aah
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: good to know
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: if you go the linux or vm route on a chromebook watch out. I had ubuntu running on mine right up until my wife hit the spacebar on boot..
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it powerwashes the chromebook and resets it back to factory when you have dev mode activated(deactivates dev mode)
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: oh wow
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yeah they REALLY don't like you being in dev mode
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Bet you got some action that night
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I lost a lot of data that day
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Bamboo you obviously have not met my wife..
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: that sucks
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Hey a little respect to the wife
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Pleiades, teamviewer works well with chromebooks so remoting in is easy
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: But if you're getting a new computer, might as well aim for one that can run a mud on its own
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I agree with Bamboo here
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: VNC is better that temviewer , but teamviewer is more convenient, yet as it involves 3rd party (proxy) cannot be considered secure (unless you trust proxy)
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: while I do like how slim the chrombooks are and lightweight... it is no laptop
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I do too but would prefer the wording "run a mud client" instead of "run a mud"
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: that makes sense
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I do like the price... they seem dirt cheap
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: you could get blowtorch up and running on it seeing as they now allow android apps on the chromebooks
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Can't bo- err, run very useful scripts on that though
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades grins evilly at A Nimwit Bamboo.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over A Nimwit Bamboo's head.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: actually you can write scripts in lua for blowtorch now..
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess you could also use tt++ instead of Mush
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so you could bo-- run very useful scripts
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: yeah but someone has to get the mapper part working even if it is just the back end part
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Get a gaming laptop, so we can also play something else!
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Wife simulator ftw!
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Just get an Ultrabook
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Spend the $800 and be solid on all fronts
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Anchin, lol can you imagine the phone users using the mush mapper?!?!? we would all lose
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I have a Blowtorch mapper
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And a tt++ one
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: wut
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: I have one independent of client.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, my database is client independant.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: All the parsing/processing is client dependant
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: proxying it out?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Well here comes the bo- scripters
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Of sorts. It's just a Mongo Database
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: I just use Tintin++ and wanted a mapper equivalent to MUSH.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Bamboo don't be mad that people like doing things you don't ;)
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Oh don't mind me. That's just how I react when I'm in awe
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Mine doesn't use MongoDB, I admit :P
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Robbo what back end system does tintin use for the split pane windows? it reminds me of tmux
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: nods, I used the tt++ mapper from ixle and I's aardwolf-tintin as a base, but I converted the data to Monog Documents, and have a scala script for fetching
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Tmux
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Oh, I use TT with tmux.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Tt++ doesn't split, that's tmux that does it
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ah
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: that makes sense
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: I threw away Cheez's code and wrote my own, because he's Cheez.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I really should just use tt
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: In our script we have a "pmuxit" executable, that auto-splits and loads panes for you, but it in-itself, incapable of splits
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RowBoat Robbo winks at Helperful Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You were just jealous you couldn't improve the already written code :P
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You wanted to do it poorly and silly-like :P
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RowBoat Robbo coughs loudly.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Cheezeburger those lenovo thinkpads have a known issue with windows 10 where they get stuck in a boot loop and you *cant* get out of it because it locks you out of the bios and boot order
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: A buddy of mine suffered from that, I tried all that I could to bring it back.. lol didn't work
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I wouldn't know :P
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I keep 1 PC windows for gaming, the rest get re-imaged instantly :P
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Also, that just sounds like you needed to flip the BIOS EUFI flag
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: UEFI*
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: you can't get to that
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I tried :(
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: How strange
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I personally love my Asus Zenbook and would get another in a heartbeat if I needed it
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: UEFI is evil on servers
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's an evil technology in general that MSFT shoehorned into the manufacturing process
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I have an asus transformer android tablet that is pretty cool
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now I wonder whether you can connect with Intel's Minix
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It literally prevents some machines from being able to be linux imaged at all. All it does it make it harder to leave windows
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: what's the URL for Aardwolf over Websockets?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do we believe that websockets is actually active?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: what do these websockets do? just curious
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Jedhi: javascript client
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: not websockets in general :D the aardwolf ones
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I thought we did.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: last 10
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: oops :) wrong MUD for that
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Would anyone program on a projector? Is the technology there yet for daily use as a monitor?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess it would be bad for your neck and eyes
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: a 1080p or 4k projector would be fine for programming
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I think it beats the purpose of the "personal" computer
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: there are 1080p projectors for under 100 dollars
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not ones worth owning
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but there are quite good ones for about $500
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i just use 1080p monitor
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: at work i have 3 :D at home only one
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you want to program using projector - the screen should be placed in such distance that you do not have to move your head to see all corners
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: any projector under $100 that claims to be 1080p is going to be a scam
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then it should also be sharp and it should not be too dark (or rather too high contrast so not to strain eyes)
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: nod fiendish. you cannot get a decent monitor for that
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i assume monitors are cheaper
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but you need replace projector lamp every XX-XXX hours
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: if projector costs 100, then how much for a lamp?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: some are 7$ and some 40$
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: https://www.amazon.com/ELEPHAS-Projector-Support-Portable-Entertainment/dp/B01M9C27FQ/ref=sr_1_19?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1511189245&sr=1-19&keywords=1080p+projector
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: this is the addy for the projector under 100
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Trachx: the resolution of that projector is 800x480
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: aka a scam
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 800 x 480P native resolution
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so I guess interpolated full HD :P
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: has a lot of good reviews though
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I bet most of the reviews are fake
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: so people must be satisfied with it heh
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I love the difference in native to supported resolution on it
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i guess it depends on the application. if the requirement is to show 2 slides each it does not really matter
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: / each day
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Well good info all, thank you. I will revisit the idea in a few years when quality gets better and price drops
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Amazon is a garbage pile of scammy junk and fake reviews
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Tol: what is your budget? 
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: hmmm I dunno I have purchased a few nice things on there and I leave real reviews
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: You can get a decent refurbished projector for about $300 I think
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you look in the right places
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: between 100-500 most likely
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: But trying to keep it cheap because I am the only one in a house of 4 bringing in an income
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you're able to hit $500 you can get https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0FC-000R-00148&cm_re=ht1070-_-0FC-000R-00148-_-Product
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which is a rock solid deal
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I like benq stuffI use their monitors
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: that looks awsome, now to clear it with the finance department(wife)
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the HT1070 is a great projector, especially for the price, and has a powered usb port so it will self-power a chromecast
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I would literally just be using it as a third monitor
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: its dlp
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: must see if you see the dlp-rainbow is off-putting before buying
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: most projectors are dlp
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: dlp?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you want a non-dlp projector you almost certainly have to go with epson
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: the effect may be too obvious for some people. ruins the experience
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i see the rainbow in movies. luckily i can ignore that. some people cant
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Tol: https://hometheaterreview.com/rainbow-effect/
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: do you taste the rainbow in music?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: it is a real real problem. first check this issue out
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: and see if you're ok with it
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in my experience, almost everyone can see the rainbow effect if they're looking for it but almost nobody is actually bothered by it for more than a few seconds
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just like wires in trinitron's crts
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: especially not on projectors with faster or 2x color wheels 
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i can see it in movies. but i mostly play borderlands and driving games with it. there, i cant notice any. never seen a rainbow in those games
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but if you want a projector that isn't DLP options become much more limited. I'm pretty sure only Epson makes them
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: haha, finally figured out why the plugins command kills my client
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what's the answer?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: don't have basts Pluginsfunction enabled at the same time
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: apparently nick's and Bast's plugin stuff doesn't play well together
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which two plugins are the conflict?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: can you send me links?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: links?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wherever you downloaded them from
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: its nick gammons plugin_summary and bastsPluginFunctions
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what does plugin_summary do?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: its written in vbscript and it just lists your plugins installed and thier summary(description)
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: pfft
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I had thought that it showed you current memory usage of each plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: use \\\Debug("summary")
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I wish I would have known about that earlier when I was looking for my memory leak, lol
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: is that one of yours?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: part of mushclient
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: what is the time in the touple (Lua, .209 s)
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: what does the time represent?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably total time spent running that plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: interesting I have one that is over 100 seconds
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which one
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: one of mine
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: guessing I made a boo boo
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: depends on what it does
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: its on my github, its called wheresaver
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: my repaint buffer plugin is over 100s, but that's because it gets called thousands of times
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in aggregate it actually saves a lot of time because of what it does
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: aye, this one gets called every second I believe and on plugin broadcast
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: why would it be calling on pluginsavestate 11k times?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: when does that even get called?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: on save
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what is calling that?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am not, its one of the standard functions you can put into your scripts like onPluginBroadcast
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes I know that
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I remember setting it up because of the example I was looking at for doing miniwindows
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: search the mushclient forum to find the page that describes plugin callbacks
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it will say when it gets called
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: nothing like 11504 calls.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: well that read was super not helpful, lol
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you have thousands of calls to OnPluginSaveState somethin's funny
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: yeah, I agree there
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you should have single digits
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: see if something is manually saving
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: nothing in this file is calling it
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: look in all scripts for Save()
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: 0
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: optionally with an argument
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess just Save
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe you're using http://www.mushclient.com/forum/?id=8729
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there you go
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ah, didn't know it saved plugin states also
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because all it's doing is calling Save()
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: but what I don't understand is I have another window I made that only has 306 while that one has over 11k
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I assume you didn't have them installed for the same amount of time
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: They both have been installed for over 2 years
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: the one with more was installed for less time
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe you reloaded one?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: could be, let me reload the one and check if it clears it
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: did clear it but in the time it took me to get out of the plugin screen and type your summary option it made 153 calls to it
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's nuts. you can...
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, so, you have to be careful with this... but you can activate Game->Trace. be warned you'll get spammed with messages from the repaint buffer
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I have that put to its own window so I don't get bombarded
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so when I trace I never see any OnPluginSaveState calls
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: obviously because I'm not saving
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so you have to find what is calling Save so much
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: need to sanitize out the plugin ticks
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there's also SaveState()
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which is just for the plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I am trying to sanitize out all of the crap so I can find the one calling it, lol
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: I see it getting saved but not what is calling it
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well you can find out by selectively disabling plugins until it stops
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: might save_state='y' in the plugin declaration have something to do with it?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: shouldn't, no
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That just allows the plugin to save state
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: hmm I keep seeing an unlabelled timer firing less than a second apart also
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so that didn't help at all on who is calling the plugin saved state..
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: how do you tell what timers are running currently? Across plugins and whatnot, I have one I want to find but its not labled
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so is there a command that shows the memory usage of all the plugins?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not built in
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: darn
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: bast's plugin plugin can do that
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: which one?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ahha
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so the plugins function is back to locking me up
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: it is the bast one that is locking for some reason
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: is it wierd if mapper isnt plaotting corses from aard hotel for like melody?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: if you have the cexit set up then yes
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: does anyone know what other plugins must be installed to use bast's pluginlist.xml?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: and the portal put in
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: oh like make a cexit to the entrance of the area?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: some areas it runs to just from mapping the room of the normal ardwold runto command
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: that will work for areas that don't have cexit entrances
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: mapper automatically detects normal directional exits but requires you to manually register all cexits
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: how do I exit full screen mode in mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: full screen mode?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: under the view menu there is an option for full screen, I'm used to hitting exit to escape the mode, but I can't get it to go back.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Ctrl+Alt+F
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: morn
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: ah
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: so right now melody has an exit south that goes directly to center.  how do i make a cexit for that in that room
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Weird. Fullscreen mode is slightly off screen for me.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Looks to be a few pixels to the left off my screen.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: there is a thread on mushclient that talks about it being slightly off
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's not off for me
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: I think it was with Vista
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Eh, this is Windows 10.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: where are the aliases, triggers, etc. stored to copy over to a new build of aardwolf?  Sorry, been looking for a while and can't find it.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: is it the aardwolf data base file?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: was trying to find an old faq on it, but was having trouble locating it
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Visible: my website
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you're trying to copy things over from anywhere to anywhere then IMO you're doing it wrong
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the installer updates what it needs to, no manual copying of anything over to anywhere
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: I hear you, I was just having trouble with my previous version witn the miniwindows and wanted a fresh start.  But I'd like to be able to bring over my triggers/aliases/timers and maps
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: how do you put stuff in the mush status bar
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: there's stuff there I can't find out where it's coming from
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Infobar()
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: have you looked at view?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That's not what he's referring to.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: He wants to know how to put stuff into the info bar.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: no there's stuff there
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: it says Mapper: 
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: then some random speedwalk that's not even a speedwalk
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: and it shows briefly every time I move
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's actually Info() that puts stuff into the info bar, heh.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You may have a plugin that's putting that information in for you.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: that's what I'm trying to find, isn't it :p
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Then search for Info( :P
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: If you have a program that can search through all files in a given directory, that'll help out immensely.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: anyone know how to make a cexit in mapper for a zone that doesnt have a directional area i can stop at.  IM trying to get it for melody
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: directional area?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: LImunious just do mapper cexit melody
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: it shows cexit failed, leads back to the same room
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: oh from aard center
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: whatever you have to do to exit that room, you put in cexit ,mapper cexit, climb ladder, ...cexit hit old woman;;climb out window, whatever
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: yea like when u leave melody south it takes u right back to aylor center
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: have to do mapper cexit runto melody from the center aylor  got it thanmks!!
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: updated mush, it's gone now
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: -22
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: On Bast's Spellup Plugin... I have spells at 85% which the plugin are viewing as "not learned". Any ideas on how to instruct the plugin to view these as learned? I've tried removing all the spells and readding them, but no luck.
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: does anyone else have more than one process running for mushclient under wine? As in when you only have one intentially open?
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: not wine, sorry windows
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2017-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: only 3 processes for 3 copies running
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: anyone good with mapper cexits command?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: you'd better served just doing the question :)
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: I am setting up random mapper cexit runto's and a few worked but the last time I tried with Annwn it keep running me there everytime I try and use mapper from reclal :P
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: in the mapper hover the mouse on the recall room... it should show you all the exits (cexits included)
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Degarn Tech: a u here?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unbalanced Teklor Tech: how do you make the mapper pause for more then 2 seconds for extended cexits?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: mapper help exits -> mapper cexit_wait <seconds> 
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unbalanced Teklor Tech: tyvm
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: When using mapper, if I use open e
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: double your semicolon please
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: When using mapper, if I use open e"
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: When using mapper, if I use open ee it keeps dropping the second command, what should I be using for commands thet require more than 1 input?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: with a semi colon
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: it breaks it up there lol, just not in mapper function
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what did I just say?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I dont know
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: When using mapper, if I use open e;e it keeps dropping the second command, what should I be using for commands thet require more than 1 input?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: :)
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: I didn't hear anything
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: ah
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: boom solved
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you need to use two ; in between commands
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: lmao, use that in my mapper fuction? :P
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: naturally
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: thanks guys!!
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: or start with semicolon then your mapper cexit blah blah blah
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: starting with a semicolon always feels weird to me
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: since your giving advice, next question :) How do I fix the paths that are broken, for example I can't use mapper to run to fantasy field... I tried cexit from recall but sometimes they fail and start going to that location from ever click on S&D
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: I will try and go to senn lake and it grabs my cexit and runto to Fantasy field instead...
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wait wait
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you're trying to make a cexit from recall?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: someone told me I could do that to fix area's that you cant use S&D to get too
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: and the messed up part is it worked for call of heroes lol
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's adorable
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's weird, and I'm pretty sure it's bad advice, but I think I like it
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: like when I click on escent I cant run there..
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: how can I fix that path?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Type speedwalk ascent
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: See that cexit in there, add it to hte mapper in the room it's in.
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the way to fix any path is to find the exits that are wrong and make them not wrong
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anchin Tech: all you have to do is map the custom exits along the way. do speedwalk awnn (to see if there are any and where)
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and for the record, you should probably not do any cexits from recall. that's unlikely to really solve any existing problem without making a new problem
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: yeah, agreed thanks.
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: we can even demonstrate this algorithmically. there's no room that you can get to from recall that you can't get to from 1 room away from recall.
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: was frustrating the hell outta me last night, ill have to slap my buddy around
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and there's no room that you can't get to from from 1 room away from recall that you can't get to from 2 rooms away from recall
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: so for an area requiring a key, can I set up a cexit to goto the room with mob, kill it and move back to the door and open it? Would i need to use wait command etc?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ugh, first can't should be can, but you get it
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you "can", but my personal opinion is that people shouldn't
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: that's legal?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: was thinking for chap lab, have it goto Pan, kill him, go to other room and open door and then pass through lol
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: help botting dictates that you can't kill mobs automatically
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: nothing that involves killing mob and moving in an alias/trigger is legal
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: gotcha
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: you can add a roomnote to remind you which mob to kill
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I have a roomnote for where to runto so that I can copy paste it back from the note
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: seems to work pretty well
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can automate it even more: move to room with mob, echo "kill it", **manually initiate kill** and after looting key continue move
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or get passdoor wish
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: yeah passdoor would be awesome, passdoor works on locked doors?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: some door are no-pass
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: depends on the door
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: so I dont fully understand why melody doesnt work.. there are no doors or anything and my CP mob was the first mob in the room
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or get a passdoor belt
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess you could also implement simple state machine working with 1-button click, like 1st click it takes you to mob, 2nd click kills mobs, 3rd click moves you back to door
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unbalanced Teklor Tech: what is a passdoor belt?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what does it sound like?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: where would we get one of those?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unbalanced Teklor Tech: ok then where do i get one?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you probably don't
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cap'n Gus Grimvald rolls his eyes.
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: so would it be illegal to set up a cexit for rattler which is in texas of land of legends? Buy ticket, goto right conductor, and into texas area? Is that possible?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is legal
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: does not involves killing mob
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: possible for someone of my limited experience and talent? :P
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is illegal to *stack* in *any* way *move* and *kill*
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just increase cexit time construction
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: and would it be one continuous cexit command and not broken up into steps?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: well, seperated by semi-colons, but yeah one cexit
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then move to room with tickets and do something like : buy viti;w;n;board;e;open e;e;open e;e;give virgi cond
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: repeat that for all locations
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: read "mapper help exits" for details (you need mapper cexit_wait in this case)
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnifico Tech: is there a way to open doors automatically when using Search & Destroy?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: define cexits
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes mapper help exits
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: S&D is merely an extension to mapper when it comes getting to destination
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also remember to define portals (if you want to move fast between areas)
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: omg this is savage :P
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: thanks for your help guys!
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: so i loaded the client onto a flash drive and it ran ok on that computer but i took it home and it doesnt run... the icon does not even shoW but all the other stuff does... suggestions?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have a shortcut/alias that you're trying to use to run it?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: um idk... hoW do i find out?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the client should be an entire folder named MUSHclient...you should have to open that folder, to get to folders fonts, licenses, etc...and in that folder is a program MUSHclient.exe
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you double-click on MUSHclient.exe, it should run normally
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: yes i see those
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: is says error accoured While loading this archive
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sounds like you have it still in a .zip file
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: dang do unzip?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you double-click a zip file, Windows will open up the contents, but it doesn't really unzip it yet...you've got to either copy/paste stuff from teh opened window, or else right-click the zip file and select Extract all
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: ok dang 
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: What do i need to do to unzip What file?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: most of the files have the WINDOWS symbol on it..
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: thnx btW
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: silly thing did not Work :( maybe i need to do it on a nother Computer. Would it matter that most things are forbidden for me?>
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Has anyone designed a grep like command for aard?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: hrm i seem to remember yesterday i had cexit for a room would show in a small mini window.  is there a way to activate that?  its like gone now
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: assuming you are using MUSHclient, do you remember which area?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: it was ay time i was in any room i had made a cexit, the cexit would show in a small mini window
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: like ina  small mini window with orange text it would show open w w 
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: did the small window have anything else and is the window gone entirely?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: its entirely gone and it only had cexits in it
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you maybe make room notes for your cexits?
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: no notes they would be just the nromal cexits that were in the room i was in
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't know of that being a toggleable option in the mapper, and I don't know of a third party plugin that does it
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok, very wierd
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: this command will display all the mapper options: mapper help all
T3/r7/2017-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper shownotes is close, though, so that's why I wondered if maybe you made notes as you made cexits
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lanreth Tech: is there a command that runs to your quest mob with s&d?
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: go, i think
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lanreth Tech: ok thanks, ill try that next one
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: i doWnloaded the client on to a flash drive. (zip) might of done it on the computer regular... i tested it it 
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: it Worked but When i got here it failed.. What could be the reason?
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: there could be dozens of reasons.Too little info.
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: ah ok
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: can i save and run the unzipped client on my flashdrive and run it on another computer or do i need tod othe zipped file?
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: unzipped is fine
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: um how do i lock my screen for the client?
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: swamptrash: aard layout lock
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: wow thanks 
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for the flash drive, the file you double-click on must be totally unzipped. So the "parent" folder at the root of the zip drive cannot have a zipper icon on it. I suggest copying the folder named just "MUSHclient", not the one named aardwolfclientpackage-MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't see why you can't use the installer to install to a flash drive though
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: i ended up doing that.. thanks!! so far as long as i can tell it is working
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: i am using it now.. just hot at the halfwayhouse
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool, glad you're all sorted
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: so i am i this is soooo much better then the alt flash portal 
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice at Swamptrash, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's really there as an "in case of emergency" thing if you have no other options
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swamptrash Tech: had no other options... i was surprised i was able to get on on the alt flash site. 
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: How do I get bast's plugin to recognize that I know my clanskill (intervention)
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I assume you mean a particular plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it might be good to tell us the name
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: The bast spellup plugin, sorry.
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: bsp help has info about the toggleclan option
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Thank you sit.
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Erm, sir. :P
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyran Tech: my s&d plugin window is off the screen and i can't move it back, any help?
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyran Tech: thanks for the help dude
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: when a room is ID: nomap or ID: noid, that's area designer shutting off room number or an error?
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the first one
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: is aardwolf db the main mapper file if you redo your mush?
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: aardwolf.db is your mapper file
T3/r7/2017-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: can copy your old one over if you installed a fresh copy
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: is there like a wait function in lua?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: nm i found it
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: nah i lied i didnt find it
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in Lua no. In MUSHclient yes.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ill just use doafterspecial
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: oh, is there some other more simpler "wait/sleep" type function?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Depends on what you're waiting to occur
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i want lua to wait a second or two before continuing executing the code after the sleep
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: to make sure that a variable gets filled from the triggers after executing the alias before it continues?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but that won't be reliable
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: nm ill just do it differently
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: the back plastic cover of my laptop is cracked, does anyone know if shops repair/replace that cover?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: the cover where the screen is 
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: you might be able to find one online... not sure where though
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: if all else fails you can look for a bricked or broken laptop of the same model
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: is there a wat to clear out just one cexit in a room if there are multple?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right click and delete cexit
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok so i do cexits here, then of the 4 here i just click on the one i want, right click, and there is nothing there that says delete cexit
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right click on room on map, then delete exit, and pick cexit to delete
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: right click on the map window
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: on the map window.  right click the room you want to remove the cexit from
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: absolutely awesome
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks guys
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ahh i see why there was a problem, im doing a mapper exit runto azone from aylor, but its not getting through the whole run
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Any idea why there is a gray overlay/background in my main window + map window? I can't seem to find a setting to fix it, the only way is to open a new world file, which I kinda don't want. Screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/dyiai
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's how the client is supposed to be
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the MUSHclient window has that background, and then all other miniwindows and the main output are simply boxes placed on it wherever you want
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Huh? No it's not like that on my other comp. Then the main window/map window has a black background. I don't mean the mushclient bg, btw, I mean those two windows.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the main output window's gray is actually the wolf howling image background
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can choose to not have that...instructions are in the client FAQ: http://abelinc.me/aardclientfaq
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: I get that Mush has a gray bg, but usually that's all covered up. 
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Ah, instructions! I'll see. Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you probably removed the background file on your other PC...although the best way to use MUSH on a new computer is to copy the entire folder between the two (some people play from a Dropbox folder, or from USB drives)...that way all settings would be the same between the two
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: another possibility is simply that the other computer's screen has different contrast than this one, and you just notice it more on this one...I know on some LCDs, you've gotta look at them at a funky angle to notice the wolf picture
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Hmm.... thing is, I usually use a mac (so I run Mush via Wine there), while this laptop has Windows. I've not quite figured out if having a Dropbox folder will work, so for now I have two different installs. Annoying, because mapper settings and aliases etc are way better on the other comp.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Ok, now the wolf image disappared, but some miniwindows are still grey. Weird.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dropbox should work fine as long as you close MUSHclient on one computer a few minutes before opening it on the other computer, even with one Mac and one Windows
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Ok, I will try to get it set up then. I just need to actually do it, not put it off in favour of actually playing, lol.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one other thing to try: go to game -> configure -> ANSI Colour...the value for "Normal Black" is what the windows that are showing as grey should be using
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: abelinc!!
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the code for the ASCII mapper says to use that...but the code for the statmon says to use "0x000000" black instead of your "normal" black
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Abelinc!! You are amazing! You fixed it!!! Somehow one of the blacks had been set to dim grey or some such. I changed that, and now it works.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: he is amazing!
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: do you have your own Abelinc T-shirt yet?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Haha, not yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was one.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I am wearing one right now
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Lies, we know you're not wearing any clothes.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: But that's not a topic for this channel.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: well
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: then explain to me how we can talk about barebone servers!
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: is there also a client setting for the grey colour? It seems to be black on this client, on my other comp it works fine.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Ok, fixed it. Tick the "use custom 16 colours as default" under colours, apparently.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: if anyone is interested in buying a super widescreen phone like the galaxy s8/s8+ I'd advise against it.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: I was convinced at galaxy
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: too late :)
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: damn!
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I hope you are not shilling for apple
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I have the s8+ why should i get rid of it?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: it's so annoying how YouTube videos have black bars so the 6.1 inch screen is like a 5.2
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: excellent question
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: don't get rid of it.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: so you are saying we should use the s8/s8+ because of youtube?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: well, why should i not have gotten it in the first place?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: I actually got an LG G2, most durable phone I've had so far
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: It's starting to get a bit old though
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: it's just disappointing going from a 6 inch to a bigger screen but it feeling like a phone with a smaller screen
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I am failing to understand your point, NOegel.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: what is the technical problem with the s8/s8+
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: Me either, and I love watching videos on my phone. I don't think I've seen bars...
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: Probably watching SD videos on an HD phone
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: the point being ultra widescreen isn't a selling point at this time. It probably will be in a year when it's supported more
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: that is not the only reason to buy the s8+
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I tell you the only reason I wouldn't buy the s8+, it's heavier than the s7 edge
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: of course not hehe I'm just irritated that I haven't found something that really supports it
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: I had an S2 and its was  really good, as long as I didn't use the mic
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: which somewhat reduces it's uses
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I love chunky phones. I put otter boxes on them to make them hefty
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: the s7 edge was like a feather. The only reason I got rid of it is becuase the charging port went bad and it was my fault.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I'll shut up now.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I can tell you that I was a samsung lover til the s6, hated that phone for a long list of reasons, ended up with an Iphone 6s+, didn't love it but hated it far less than the s6, now that I got the s8 I'm thinking I will probably go back to iphone
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: good luck with an inferior product :)
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I hate how apple lacks in personalization and customization, but platform is way WAY more stable, apps operate far more smoothly
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: the new iPhone 8 is superior in a huge way
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: but it's an iPhone soooo
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: the the only thing that the ihpone has over the samsung is that people like to own 'apple' products.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: the new iPhone has an insane processor
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: it is apple who is trying to catch up now
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: makes the galaxy s look midrange
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: but really not going to notice a difference now until apps support it...
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: yeah, insane processors is what I need since that is why I buy phones, to comute second order partial differential equations in a reasonable time.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: OK with that logic a Motorola razr from 2006 is sufficient
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel buries her face in her hand and sighs, shaking her head.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: it's just that you are buying a phone not a platform to work out lunar landings.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: it's a good thing because it'll increase competition and make new androids better
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I guess. I hardly use the phone as a phone.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: the new androids are better, it is apple who is stuggling to keep up, so far the 'apple' brand is helping them out but soon they are going to have to prove that they have the better product.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: my rear exhaust fan makes a weird noise, it's like howling every 2-3 secs
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: in other words a larger percentage of iphone 8 buyers bought it because it was an apple not because it was better.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I jump back and forth between platforms. Apple was worse slightly this time around. They're definitely not struggling though
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: how many android buyers like you buy android because it's simply not Apple?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: they are struggling, not struggling is what the iphone 1 did agasint samsung
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i dont buy apple because its a new thing
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I don't buy apple because they suck :)
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: iPhone isn't struggling. It's one brand. And they're doing marvelous considering Android is many many brands
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: Apple is great for people who want a great phone with zero hassle.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: yes, Noegel, but for a long time it was a given that people would buy iphones, now iphone actually has to put out a good product, something they are not used to doing. that's struggling :)
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: not for people like you and I who like messing with all the settings with a fresh install of windows
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: main issue I have with apple is the itunes app
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: Iphone 10 is awesome as far as I can tell, I'll probably be headed there next
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: screw iTunes!
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I agree itunes sucks
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: itune pisses me off :)
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: but I don't use my phone as music device, so I haven't had to get involved too much with itunes
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: iPhone X is sick... But it's $1,000
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I don't know who installed it on my laptop because I didn't :)
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: like any other phone though, you can pay monthly for it
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: it's so expensive for a phone. I have an iphone 5c, next one is going to be the iphone cheapo, or xiaomi
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: the s8 note is 1K also
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: no phone should cost that much
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arystul boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: my pc cost 1k...
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: note 8 is 800
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: While I agree the mark up is ridiuclous, you're literally holding the technology that used to not even be available in a computer..
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: im not paying 1k for a phone just to have something to do while taking a dump
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I think you should get yourself a motorola razr, and you'll quickly realize how much you take your phone for granted
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: well, soon they will stop calling them phones and call them by the right name. calling them 'phones' make the illiterate a potential buyer. If you called them 'personal communication and processing' units, peoplw would start thinking they were buying pocket computers, not as cool as phones.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I am willing to bet that 'phone' usage is not the top priority usage of the unit.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: already said that dude
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: what do you do with the personal communication and processing unit? I need emails mostly, and accessing personal accounts. can't do that at work
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: agreee that if you play games on the phone isa bit different
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: phone is easier to say. You don't call your car an automobile daily do you?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: well, if you use it wisely it will allow you to take control of your time :)
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fapjacked Dashiell Tech: I personally call it my Personal Motorized Carriage.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel smacks Anaristos in the immortal nuts.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fapjacked Dashiell Tech: PMC for short.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: my phone is 5y old and still sufficient for me, i just need to root it now so I can get a newer version of andriod due to apps stopping to support 4.4.2 :P
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: if you fiddle with your phone all day because you are a "connected person", instagram, facebook etc, I guess 1k is good value
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I don't really play games on my phone, but I do use it ALL The time, the apps that are out there are pretty incredible..
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I start my truck from my phone lol
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: phones today are the precusors of the global net that we will join when we have the chips installed :)
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: oh, don't forget the 500 dollars to pair it with the iwatch
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: who the hell wears a watch? 
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: soon therre will be the iEat, to figure out what you eat so that iHealth is fully updated
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: old ass men
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: ask someone who wears a watch what time it is, and you'll see them pull out their phone to check the time
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: the millennials big in fitness
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: Oh, to count steps... right
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: it tracks even how frequently you burp
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: my phone does that without having a watch
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: so old ass men and millennial make fun of each other for watches
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel is so confused.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: noooooo, it recognises squats, push ups etc...you get live calories burnt
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: and one day millennials will complain about their kids haha
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: oh you need to pair it with an iScale too, otherwise you need to type your weight manually
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ullin rolls his eyes in disgust at Teagan's shade.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: anyway...I think my next phone is a xiaomi 4x or at most iphone SE
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: because I am a real man, and real men don't carry bags
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: to hold their phones
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ullin laughs diabolically...Muhahahaha!
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: the only problems I foresee with the devices is the ability of the government to keep track of individuals thorugh 'private' companies.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I guess I use my phone for work and a bunch of stuff... Games, work, everything.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I guess I'm in the minority here!
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: let's say apple sells all ihealth data to insuarance companies...
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: before you jump me ask yourselves why does the McDonald app need to have access to your phone, your contacts and your sd card.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: or let's say .. they just buy an insurance company
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: because a lot of super basic app needs require that access to do freaking anything on Android.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: I guess I should be happy to not live in the US then :p
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: or why all apps ask you facebook access? So they suck you all your network info etc
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: it was an android security feature made back in the day
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: then Apple incorporated it to look secure too
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: or why if you browse for say a new PC, facebook app showers you with PC add?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: throw them AWAY!
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: right so now I use the app to order a hamberger from McD, meanwhile McD is processing my contacts list for what? my phone history for what? my sd card for what?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: making basically any app require access to your whole phone, making them insecure. Rofl
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: if most apps require access... Most people will accept. Making those security features useless
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: well, when the app asked my for all those permissions, I hit the delete button :)
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel cheers for Anaristos!
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: after I install my apps I turn all their permissions off and force them to ask for the permissions each time I need to use the app, if I don't like what they ask for I uninstall them.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: and that's good!
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: but nobody else does that. So the permissions war goes unfought
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: that is why the device is still called a phone, to keep the unsuspecting from noticing they are giving their life away for the sake of a free app.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I despise the free app/game direction the world is going.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: free to play has never been so expensive when it comes to games atleast
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I download free apps, I don't think I give my life away...
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: free apps make money somehow. Via ads or sold personal information.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I agree, ads are annoying, but thats not me giving anything away
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I suspect that selling personal info is the bigger revenue.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: way bigger
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: and androids security permissions "feature" introduced it. Not a diss against the OS. It was coming eventually but nobody saw this consequence coming
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: damn marketers
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: it is obvious if you just stop and read what they ask of you. As I said why does McDonald need a list of my contacts.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: if they gave me a discount I might consider letting them take a peek :)
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: but not for free
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: oh hell yeah! That'd be sweeet
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: well it's time for Thanksgiving. I was just ranting at the lack of support for super duper widescreen which I shouldn't be complaining as an early adopter of a tech on a platform
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I'm a big baby. Nothing new!
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: phone still kicks ass
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: the one problem I really have is that the OS is givng the permissions regardless of what I say. I've never trusted Microsoft and I don't see why I have to trust android or apple :)
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Failurette Noegel agrees with Anaristos.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: now that is a topic for another day. I can't believe it has come to that. We won't have a choice one day.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I disconnect from the internet when I am doing sensitive work but I still get the feeling that the operating system has access to the net without using an isp (or rather, the isp is microsoft or android)
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: you can either have internet, or not.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: too late for the not part
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: physically remove the ethernet. Unless you use solely wifi...
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: that might be getting a little too paranoid, though with the latest minix revelations in mind not entirely outside of the realm of possibility
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryltar Tech: is there a way to view the map in gmcp?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not currently.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: be more specific please
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do you mean the ascii map?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What is it you're trying to do?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryltar Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: You just want to get the automap without having to parse it out of the main output, is that it?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryltar Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I assume this means that you're not using MUSHclient or any other client that already has an ascii map capture script?
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryltar Tech: cmud
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm sure someone has already written a cmud script for the overhead map
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I had one for zmud
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: does my old zmud script work in cmud? 
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I think so.
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryltar Tech: pretty sure it can
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: http://www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf/zMUD%20Scripts/
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: enjoy
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryltar Tech: thks
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: some of them are bound to be broken because I don't keep them updated
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but that one should still work
T3/r7/2017-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryltar Tech: thanks again, had to change a could things but got it to work
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: hmm i'm exploring living mind it doesn't seem to be mapping the area.
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: err mine
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: the first few rooms are nomap
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: nods ok thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If anyone misses the SQLite extension in Firefox and don't want to downgrade to the long term release, I found this which seems pretty decent: http://sqlitebrowser.org/
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Does anyone know where Bast's stats DB is stored? It seems to be gone after I upgraded/moved Mushclient.
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is in your logs folder
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: logs folder and the back_ups are in db_backups folder in the logs folder.
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Yay, Turie. Got the stats back. Thanks so much! 
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: welp, keepvid apparently sucks now
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: anybody have an alternative suggestion for how to download youtube videos?
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I use youtube dl. itworks flawlessly. you can even download playlists and such.
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber nods at Byrnatha.
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: should I get a new laptop, or should I just get a smallish desktop type PC?
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I like the portability but in practice I generally don't go anywhere
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: No need to go anywhere. To paraphrase Mastercard commercials: Muding on the throne - priceless. :)
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: any ideas how to use ram efficently on a phone
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i cleaned it and it had 52 Mbs used
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: what encoding am i supposed to use. mines slowing everything dow 
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: when matching a regex how do I get access to what a group captures?
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: waaaahhhh sqlite manager firefox extension doesn't work anymore with the latest update... any free replacements, even standalone?
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: not professional, just using it to browse aardDB
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: someone mentioned sqlitebrowser.org, I know nothing of it, just was mentioned on tech
T3/r7/2017-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: thnks will check out
T3/r7/2017-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lanreth Tech: is there a way to change the color of unexplored rooms that show up on the mapper?
T3/r7/2017-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pub's Snooky Tech: seems to be a glitch with the market on 82236
T3/r7/2017-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atomic Tech: hi all. is there a way that i can make a trigger on blowtorch to say how long it took before the next pup/ level please? 
T3/r7/2017-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: html5 audio gets out of sync gradually, it triggers me a lot
T3/r7/2017-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: has anybody had issues with that lately
T3/r7/2017-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: browser doesnt matter, drivers I installed the windows ones
T3/r7/2017-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: it also seems to be the realtek card, it's not happening on my dac/amp
T3/r7/2017-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: does anyone on this channel know how VI readers operate?
T3/r7/2017-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: any VI players on
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: is there a way to turn "echo channels in main window" off without having to right-click in the comm window
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I don't know if chats echo off still works or not.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: works for me
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: thanks again :)
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello all
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: any idea how to restore or check why my minimap window is gone?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it would be nice to get from mapper something like path length to different areas
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you would just type "mapper what_trivia_portal_buy_next" and it shows me area
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: even better if it was able to decide that getting X portal will shorten paths to 1,2,3,4 areas 
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: all the code is basically there either in mapper or mapper extender, it's just a matter of putting it together
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: this would be an excellent addition
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Have you bought all SH areas?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean if it was implemented in mapper several years ago then I could buy trivia portals with more reasonably way :P
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: mapper optimal 12345 19852 18412 32921 -> The optimal room between those four rooms is: 23421.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Going to share that code Crowley?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Can't share what isn't written. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: by optimal room, do you mean the closest to the current position?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The center point to all parameters.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: to bad that a code like that would need to recalibrate optimal everytime a new area with area exits is added
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: when I was buying some trivia portals I tried to get such portal that was usable for more than 1 area
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Meaning that the path length to each of the parameters is within 1-2 rooms of each other.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's doable, though.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: basically gettin "mapper where <start room>" for all areas, then expanding run 2e3s to run eesss and sorting expanded string from longest to shortest allows to select longest paths
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but that is not optimal
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: better would be to assume a portal to area X exists, then calculate sum of all mapper where's
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: then repeat for all X, the one that minimizes the sum is your next area portal
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: this would take like a minute though :p
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: actually that calculation needs to be only once
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't buy trivia portals to optimal rooms, though, only to start-of-area rooms...
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: hello, Abelinc
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: yeah, I didn't assume a portal to each room, just to each area start room
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, I mean get optimal trivia portal - by optimal I mean getting trivia portal to SKD (if it was possible) is pointless
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heloo, ball
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I mean for crowley's example, not yours
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Figure the optimal room, then wheedle your way into building a new area, and just _happen_ to place the entrance...
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: getting trivia portal that will be used by speedwalks to 3-4 areas could be considered optimal
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Morn crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Not an Imm Erikson.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yours is really the way that it must be done...create temp_mapper_portal to each area in turn, and see what that did to other areawalks
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And it takes like 30 minutes, not 1 :P
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nice erikson!
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: one could code purgatory area with entrance just above hell administration, that is quite logical those 2 areas are connected, and hell administration would be just 1d from trivia portal leading to purgatory
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it really doesn't take more than 1 minute, though...can even just use the state file from S&D's mapper extender to do it
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mean like a triv portal to wyrm?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no, wyrm is SH area, so cannot use trivia portal
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also there is already speedwalk through one of clans leading to Wyrm
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth looks at Trachx ponderingly.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Only ones on help trivia portals are disallowed...hence me asking if you had all SH areas already :P
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why did you think you can't get triv portals to SH areas?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I was wrong, most of SH areas with epics are not allowed to have trivia portal, not just SH zones
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yeah, now that vanir's open, that clanwalk is nice
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Unless I misunderstand Trach.  You CAN Have portals ALL areas, EXCEPT those specifically listen in help trivia portals.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that's right
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I have a portal to just about every SH area.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so I want to have trivia portal to area "Purgatory" which will have its entrance "up" in room administration in hell
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: because speedwalk to reactor is sooooo long
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now we just need area creator to create that "Purgatory" area
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: I have a cp there, feels good
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I seem to recall having one to HOmer, but I forget...regardless it is useless to me!
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but, as you all are sitting T9s whad do you know about cp targets in hell :P
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alts!
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: we've been non-t9s too :(
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotta start playing mine again, been since April
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so hell and sendhia - those areas require some goal that will give transports in area
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: I think we should keep some annoyance here and there
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and soon Santa is coming, so better start playing alts now
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the alts have plenty of hours, don't need to play them for santa...
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: those annoyances makes Psi Nav desired subclass (for bypass and homecoming)
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: that a bad thing ?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: I think psi is pretty good
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: does it feel like santa gifts pale compared to daily
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: depends on what you guess, I think
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what I meant - although Santa will reward players with X hours online, if you do not play your alt you should not just start logging to farm gifts (IIRC there was note about that)
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: seems hard to plice
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: are you sure that's a thing
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and Santa has some great gifts, like QP cards or double cards
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: the double cards are really the only reason I try to get one every day
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: you get double from daily too
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misha Tech: ok it sent me a bunch of jargonese i dont get but here it is: Pinging aardmud.org [23.111.136.202] with 32 bytes of data:
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: {Ping to aardmud.org Min: 70ms Avg: 166ms Max: 387ms}
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: What does it say your min/max/avg is?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: seems quite normal for eU based player
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley is not EU-based.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess Asia will have similar times
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: my ping is ~200 ms. It went to the shitter after the server change
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I have average 142, so Crowley is actually from South Africa
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: ...
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 387 is pretty slow, that 142 is from Eastern Europe
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misha Tech: it says packets: 'sent = 4, received = 4, lost =0(0% loss), approximate round rip time is in milli-seconds: minimum 111ms, maximum 218ms, average 153ms'
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glade Tech: 69 Average, west coast usa
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You're not even close to where I live.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: US based should be <100
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not necessarily.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misha Tech: let usnot forget im in alaska... and i dont know nothin anymore
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misha Tech: i used to be more tech savy, now i'm kind of blind to what all thses things are. i gotta go back to school for this stuff
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley lives next door to the server.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: with overprovisioned network you can get really bad pings
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misha Tech: so this means my connection is slow?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Blame it on Net Neutrality. *nod*
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so like your ISP has 1 Gig fiber , and he sold to 30 of his customers also 500 mega per :P
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so when one of them starts speedtest it looks nice, but when all start using bandwidth it is getting slow
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misha Tech: ah, this must be because its Sunday and there are a lot of people online up here.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe your connection (your PC - port switch) is fast, but next connection is slow
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misha Tech: ok. at least i know its not me. thanks for the info.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well if you see that during some time of day (or night) network work fast - then probably ISP has too low bandwidth 
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: traceroute may help to find bottleneck
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misha Tech: mmm, ok. that explains it,
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: when you see that after several hops average time increases then you have found bottleneck
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sometimes you can use other route to get better/faster network connection
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: actualy you (as user) are limited to using some VPN provider
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misha Tech: okiedokie
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe your ISP has really fast connection to VPN provider and that VPN provider maybe have fast connection to aard
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for example if I connect through netherlands then I have average 137 ms, through Poland 142 ms (5 ms is nothing in this case)
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: via Ireland 200, and SK 500, that is quite a difference, but it seems my connection to SK is slow
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: any idea how i screwed up my mini map?  i dont have the window anymore
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: you can reset aard windows
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Did you disable or remove any plugins recently?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it went black? You moved it behind another window? Disabled the plugin?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: yea but not the mini window
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What DID you disable or remove?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: try "resetaard"
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: its just completely gone off my screen, i have to type map to see where i am
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: 10/4  also what is the name of the plugin for the mini window
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: each is different/ there is a map plugin, right?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Aardwolf_Ascii_Mapper, I think.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: something like that yes
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: yea i did reset aard and the map is gone, just the mapper map
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: its not the mapper map but the game map
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: help automap ?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: hrm yea its the window the automap normally populates in, its like its removed completely.  now to find the ame of it and see if something happened to it
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: ok, that is a function of MUSHclient, right? DId you try "resetaard" ?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i did it didnt produce it
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: its like normally a littlw window with like a 6 room view or something.  it captures the map from the game and puts it in a window
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: aardwolf_ascii_mapper is the name of that plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: it was removed from active list
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks i have it again
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: awesome!!!
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: 2 quick questions, does basts stat tracker keep a variable for total stats gained through battle learning, and if so, how can I see the value?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: can you define battle learning?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Sorry, battle training, the soldier subclass skill.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think there are examples on https://web.archive.org/web/20151219113026/https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Intro
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I don't think it does, there is nothing specifically coded for that
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I'll check it out on the test port and see how it works
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Third question, in the stat minwin, what's the stat for ave bls trains tracking?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: average blessing trains?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Makes sense.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Don't do it!  I wanna play pokemon!
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Has Hadar's website gone down?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: hadar.ninja?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It appears to be on my side.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Nah, it's a suspended account.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not that he ever updated it anywa.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: man running mush through wine off a jump drive is sure causing lots of errors and stuff
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lanreth Tech: anyone know if there is a way to change the size of the S&D GUI?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Ylar wrote a resize code for it for Starling's version.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lanreth Tech: ohh, do you know where i could find that?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Finger Starling, then check the forks.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lanreth Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lanreth Tech: hmm all three of those files from starling are giving me errors and won't load                 Line   42: Attribute name 'data-pjax-transient' not followed by '=' (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Ugh, I'm finding it difficult to write this complex regex. Trying to do search/replace. 7 letter combinations, needing to remove all combinations where the following criteria are met: Letter 4 is not A or S or letter 6 is not H or L, or letter 7 is not Y or A. So if I had a list of SOLARIS, PULTICE, FARDING, HANDLE, PERSONAL, it'd remove PULTICE, FARDING.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley sighs.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Wouldn't that be easier to do with whatever language you're using's string manipulation?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It'll certainly be more readable when you have to look at the code 6 months from now
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, it's regex in Search/Replace.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Visual Studio Code. You can do search/replace with regex strings.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yes, but in the time you'll spend making the regex and debugging it, you could whip up a function that just does it and is actually readable too
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, the problem is, I'm trying to whittle down a list of 11,000 words to only contain words that meet that criteria. So, I don't even have it set up as a word list, though, hmm.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kafur Tech: ^...[^AS].[^HL][^YA]$  is that good enough?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yeah, I tried that, and it didn't do the job as it should have. I don't think... maybe I messed something up when I tried it.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh, maybe I did mess something up. I think I forgot to put a letter between 4 and 6 when I did it.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Sad thing is, it only dropped off 2k combinations.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: But wait, no, it didn't work anyway. Odd.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh wait, yes it did. Silly me.
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: has anyone replaced the keyboard of a macbook air ?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I didn't replace the keyboard, but I did fix the track pad on my wife's, it's a 2010-2ish model though, it did require I remove the keyboard
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: yeah, this is a 2012 or 2013 model
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: it was some time ago, what's the question?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: trying to figure out if it's worth replacng the keyboard
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: most keyboards are pretty easy to replace, even apple probably couldn't screw that up
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: They could charge $400 for the keyboard though, heh
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: yeah, that's what I was tihking about
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: What's the computer's goal, primary use?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well a 13" air keyboard is $18 on amazon
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Are you looking for an excuse to upgrade? If not, I'd replace it
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: $18?
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: not sure ow much longer t will last
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well its not OEM but seems to be several options
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: you will need a star/pentalobe screw head
T3/r7/2017-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I bought the "TEKTON 2830 Everybit (TM) Precision Bit and Driver Kit" on amazon for the repair
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: How can I set the mapper cexit timer to a longer duration for this command? It takes long than 2 seconds. I can't find anything in the mapper help
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: mapper cexit_wait <seconds>  (Found under 'mapper help exits')
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: ty
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: how do you add the plugin package for a new world?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: How do I get rid of all the tags in the client like everytime I cast a spell or go into a room I am getting rdesc at the start and end of each room etc.
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: What client are you using? Because Aard MUSH clobbers those lines by default
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: The aardowlf client
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: did you disable the mapper?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Negative
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Well those lines are used by plugins usually and shouldn't be seeing them, you can turn them on/off with 'tag' command, but if you're seeing them means something might not be working right... 
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Interesting, ty for the help Daak
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Any idea to tell which plugin is giving me a lot of lag on level ups? Talking 5-10 seconds when I level up
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: I just downloaded the latest version of Fiendish's Mushclient.  Is it safe to copy over my old aardwolf.db map file from my older 4.79 version of mushclient?  I am worried that I might be replacing important updates that might have been done to the db file since I updated last?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: save both copy's in a different directory for safe keeping, if either get messed up you have copy's
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: or wait for fiendish to respond as I have nor eal clue lol
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Is it impossible to call aliases from other aliases? I'm trying to make portal aliases that will get portals from a bag, hold, enter, put portal back in bag and rewield my current dual weapon. It seems to stop because I'm trying to make it "get3" (an alias that gets * from bag with id so-and-so). Do I need to use the bag number in all aliases, or what?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: Zcrim - sounds like a safe way to go, ty kindly =)
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for updating aardMUSH, it is safe to put an old mapper file into a new aardMUSH installation. The mapper plugin will detect that the file is old, and it will update it to the new schema. But yeah, always work on copies :-)
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shaleya: you never need to use item IDs. In order to allow one MUSHclient alias to call another MUSHclient alias, use the "Send to" drop-down to select "execute" rather than "world". That way it behaves as if you typed it into the command line, rather than just sending its alias contents to the world.
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: thank you Abelinc! =)
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chekov Tech: So, what language was this written in?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: The MUD? Probably c++?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: originally, maybe migrated to something more modern, dunno
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chekov Tech: C++? C? JavaScript?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: https://www.aardwolf.com/v3/v3diku.html
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: is there no way someone could download a windows update, compress it and send it to me?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chekov Tech: What do you mean by windows update?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i can send you a windowsupdate.exe
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: windows releases offline updates for those who do not have internet access to download them directly to their device
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chekov Tech: So, why would you want that?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: if it is offline, how do you download it
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: ignore download and add update
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: via my phone at campus (use wifi)
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: so it is online then
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: the file can be used offline :p
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chekov Tech: I will now give a class on the components of the common pc.
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chekov Tech: First, open the pc up
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: if you are downloading it, it is online
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: or do they provide you with a floppy disk?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: or does Abelinc deliver it personally in a sealed envelope
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chekov Tech: Floppy disks are too outdated. What version of Windows do you use?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: okay, let me rephrase rather, it will not take more than 20 mins of your time, majority is download time anyway. Cam
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: can someone google windows 10 1607 offline november cumilative update, download the x64 bit one from ms update catalogue and compress it
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: For about 2b gold, sure.
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: fine is 1.2gig and yeah :p i am on a very capped plan so downloading it prolly takes 6 months of my data :p
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: windows for workgroups 3.11
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chekov Tech: What pc do you have?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I have a couple
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hp
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: a pentium mmx166 is my main driver
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I also have a 386 and an XT
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: File is only 872MB.
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: november 2017?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh, might be November 2016.
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dillon perks up and stares intently at A Nimwit Pleiades.
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Downloading as we speak.
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: make sure you put it on 5" floppies
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: But I only have 3" floppies. (
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh... wrong kind of floppy. Okay.
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: what is a floppy, master?
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: {Ping to aardmud.org Min: 637ms Avg: 1251ms Max: 1642ms}
T3/r7/2017-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The lag is real tonight, yo.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: i am installing windows 8 pro and i have windows 10 iso, will it give me an option to upgrade for free?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: from win 8
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Until the end of the year, I think. 
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: how come my 'upgrade' from win 7 to 8 is taking so long, it is stuck by the installation screen
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: It didn't go 7 -> 10?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: nah, i have home premium of win 7, trying to get it to pro version of 8 then im taking it to 10
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, you do realize that the cumulative update is already compressed, and recompressing it isn't going to save you bandwidth, right?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Anyone on who is familiar with basts plugins? I am trying to setup the spellup plugins but not sure exactly which plugins I need to have installed for it to work?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: bast_spellup, PluginFunctions (might get auto added) and miniwin_spellup helps
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just load bast_spellups, it autoloads everything else. If you want the miniwindow then just load miniwin_spellup and it will load everything, including bast_spellup
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Alright I think I got it all loaded up and running, how do you add your spellups to the list if you know/remember?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Oh its bast :oP Hai Bast
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: https://web.archive.org/web/20151219113036/https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/bast_spellup
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can either use the miniwindow to toggle them or use "bsp sadd <spellup>"
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: so it would be bsp sadd all then when you get a new buff do you have to repeat that same command everytime you learn a new spell?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, until you have all of them that you want, then they stay around between remorts
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Awesome, ty for the help bast
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanctus Tech: Who wants to learn how to open their pc up to see whats inside?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanctus Tech: :D
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xergon Tech: Can you make me unlearn it, I want less relatives to ask me to help them out...
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanctus Tech: lol, its easy.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanctus Tech: Well, there is typically buttons or a lever to pull; to open the pc.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: it's easy to unlearn anything, Xergon. watch 12 uninterrupted hours of duck dynasty episodes. you'll be a drooling bumbling veg in no time. :P
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanctus Tech: Once open, you should see a big metallic object that is tall and shiny. It should be rectangular, and look like long flat blades. That is the cpu radiator.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanctus Tech: There is a smaller object that looks sorta like the radiator: thats the graphics chip radiator.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanctus Tech: Then, there is some green boards standing up, that is RAM
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Hmm. Lua function question here. I want to create a function that iterates through x amount of tabled arguments, concacting the value from each table into a final result until all values have been iterated through. For example, I have a table with {1, 2} as values, and a second table with {3, 4} as values, so it should return 13, 14, 23, 24 (tables HAVE to remain in order)
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So... how would I go about doing that? *ponder*
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: repeat that please
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Monst snores loudly.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: tl;dr: I want a function that does this: function combine({1, 2}, {3, 4}, {5, 6}) to return 135, 136, 145, 146, 235, 236, 245, 246... no matter how many tabled arguments there are.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Side note: It could also be {1,2,3}, {4,5}, {6, 7, 8, 9}
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: for a,b in ipairs(table1) do table3[a] = tonumber(tostring(table1[a]) .. tostring(table2[a])) end
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: idk if theyre strings/numbers or whatever
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Kash: But it can have multiple tables. Could have 4, 5, 6, 7 tables, etc.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's variable.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: thatd be a bit more complex then
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: you should probably use nested tables for that
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: and the function wouldnt be that much different
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Set up the loop using a fixed number of variables, then once you have that working properly add in error detection and flexibility
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: probably need nested for loops though
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I mean, I can do it the long way, and have been for a while (adding/removing tables, etc). But damn it, I just want to make it easier.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley looks at Birdbrain Metria ponderingly.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: English please
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: if you don't understand what anyone is saying here, then you don't belong on tech. *blink*
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley tickles Monst.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I belong here
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: But I wear the glasses... 
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded nods quietly to himself.  What a wacko.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: the nerd glasses
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: Dont I belong?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: okay here's something a little easier: is there any reason why I wouldn't want to buy a Nighthawk AC1750 router?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: How much does it cost?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Hah, you remind me of those "gamer girl nerds" that wear glasses and think they're nerds just because they do.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: $99
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The real question is... is there any reason you couldn't do with a cheaper router?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I bought a cheaper router and it randomly drops connections and apparently it's a common issue with this router and has no solution and I'm sick of it.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Don't buy it just because. If you just need a router, don't waste extra money. If it has a feature you want, then yeah, spend the money.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: I have an older Nighthawk router and the thing is built like a tank.  I only rebooted it a couple of times in the past few years
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i have a $20 TP Link router and it was pretty good for about a year but sometimes throughput goes to crap and i have to reboot it
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: needs to be dual band, needs to be wired/wireless, prefer it to be gigabit.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Just make sure it's got firmware update that fixes the latest WPA2 exploit
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: dual band is a nice feature
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: do you transfer large amounts of data over your home network, or have a ridiculously fast ISP?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I had an ASUS router that didn't have the 5GHz band and completely died on me after 2 years and now a Linksys that checks all the boxes but has an intermittent connection dropping issue that's apparently inherent to the device.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I wouldn't buy anything without 5 GHz. The 2.4 GHz band is completely shit up in my neighborhood
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I get about 150Mbps down. don't do big file transfers over the home network often but I do sometimes.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i guess if you are in tight quarters with your neighbors it could help
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: anyway, my last two routers have been disappointing for one reason or another. I feel like $99 is a reasonable amount for a new router and it'd be nice to not worry about having to replace it for a while.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: is there a way to stop Cortana from searching for web results?  i have the 'creators' update or whatever its called
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: use Linux
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i use win7
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: People who think they're funny by suggesting that other OS's be used should be shot.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there used to be a setting but i cant find one now
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I thought it took a registry hack
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I think Creator's Update limited a lot of things.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Endy: https://www.windowscentral.com/node/39373 <-- Try that.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah its just not the same on this update
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Endymion
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: cant even access settings without signing in to MS account
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: you're a smart fellow do you have any strong opinions on the Nighthawk router
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: which is kind of backwards but expected
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i do not, sorry.  i'm more frugal so i wouldn't want to spend $100 on a router
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but i don't need dual band
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i swear every damn router has a problem eventually, OR its because i always buy cheap ones :)
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Consumer networking gear tends to be crap
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea cheap ones tend to not be able to handle lots of devices/traffic
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I think it was Robbo that recommended the Netgear Nighthawk series as being nice
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Endy: Try this one, then: https://www.top-password.com/blog/?p=8989
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: I've got an archer.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I got a Ubiquiti EdgeRouter Lite and a UniFi AP and my router has uptime of 647 days right now
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: who was it that told me Nighthawk then
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: wow crowley, it can't find 'gpedit.msc'
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That's some shit right there. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: apparently its because Home version not Pro
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Try the second method, then?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That one is the registry hack.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: oh it was mr cheezburger who recommended Nighthawk
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there is no way to disable in regedit as described either
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh wait, can create it, trying that
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Anyone looking for a VPN, PureVPN has a lifetime subscription price drop. Normally costs $597.00. For the next 4 days, you can pay $69.99 for a lifetime subscription.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Heck of a price drop.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: 89%.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Comcast gonna block the hell out of it in a couple weeks.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: werent they the company that just released logs to the FBI on someone?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Hmm, don't know.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh yeah, for the cyberstalker.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'm cool with that, since it probably saved someone's life.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i am too... but for a company that claims they dont log....
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: ih
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth hiccups.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Fair enough. Probably the reason for the drastic price drop, haha.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Solution to Crowley's question earlier: https://pastebin.com/10dNjKHd
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I haven't used tail recursion for decades :p
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Holy geez, Durel. :p
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Very much appreciated.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Lol, I've been busy doing non-lua stuff for the last month and this seemed like a fun way to get back in :p
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: gave cortana the boot with a registry setting: https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/how-to-disable-cortana
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So you opted to just delete it permanently, haha.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: now i can use search button or click windows and start typing
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well that input box is now gone, i wouldnt mind keeping that but its just a click to hit spyglass button instead of cortana textbox anyway
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: just fyi, none of the 'disable web search' registry hacks worked.  had to just disable cortana
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: well thats what i have been trying to do for ages, hopefully it worked. will see when i next reboot in a week or two
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i bet if i logged in, mr. gates would allow me to 'turn it off' while stlil collecting my data
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: thanks for finding it for me endy :p
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello hello
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here for now
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Why is it that everytime I relog or close/open my client I get tags that come back on when I turned them off?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which client?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Aards client
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which tags specifically?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Coords keeps turning itself back on
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Are you using any third party plugins, or just what came with the client?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: I am using S/D and Bast Spellup plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you know what...
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this is kinda interesting
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: let me just quaduriple check again to make sure it is doing it brb
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Yep turned them back on
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hit ctrl+shift+p and tell me if any of your plugins are not enabled
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: they are all enabled
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do you have the bigmap plugin loaded?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Aardwolf_Bigmap_Graphical
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type 'p data' and tell me the last 4 characters in your rawcolor game prompt and rawcolor battle prompt
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also type checkversion and tell me what version it says you have
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: game = >%c battle = Same
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so they end with %c?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: R1825
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or maybe %c@w
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ( @@ -> @ )
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I tell you what, if you're willing to update to r1946, please try it and see if the problem goes away. I can't guarantee that it will, but it's possible that in the past year or so I fixed something related
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: troubleshooting an old version is always a potential distraction
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Oh I didnt realize my version was that old. I had gotten it from the website when i re-downloaded lol
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: don't forget to backup your map file
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: just make a backup copy of your whole mushclient folder. it's easer that way.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: new versions use an installer that will update whatever files need to be updated and leave your map databaes alone
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: whats the website to get the newest version from you again?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Ty Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: What is the command to realign windows in MUSHclient when they get all out of whack?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: THANKS!
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wonder where dethavin went
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: Okay, I tried resetaard, but my S&D window is stuck above the tool bar, and I can't grab onto it to drag it down.  Any clues on that one?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: Bingo!!  THX!
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: If I wanted to find the font and text size that was the default on my previous build I was using where would I go to find that?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Aardwolf.mcl, output_font_name, output_font_height (also input_font_*)
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: No I mean where would I go to change it in the client?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: alt+5
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wait, the global default or the one that's being used?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: like the global default for what shoots through for the main game? The older versions of the client had a smaller font/size that I liked better
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the global default is found under File->Global Preferences->Defaults
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: each world can have its own font set or can be set to just ues the global default
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Strange I have both clients open and you can clearly tell the font size and spacing is much smaller on the old version yet the global defaults are the same
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe one is not using the global default
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hit alt+5 in both and see what they're set to use
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Ah I see
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: it seems at some point in time you changed it from 9pt to 10pt as well as enabled underline as default
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you don't have underline enabled then it's impossible to underline hyperlinks
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: changing from 9pt to 10pt, I don't remember but it seems plausible
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: heck, I use 11
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: im using 9 and it could be a bit smaller
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Well its back to 9pt for me and now everything is right in the world again, Thank you again for the help Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: np. the tags issue is gone?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Am I an old man if I use 12-pt?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Oh Well the coord tags is on, is it supposed to be on by default
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it is supposed to be on, but it gets hidden by a plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think the coords tag only gets turned on because you can't turn the bigmap tags on via telopt without also turning on coords
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I suppose I could turn it back off...
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but the plugin is supposed to be hiding them
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Want me to try turning it off and relogging to see if it auto turns it back on?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I only want you to tell me if you _see_ them
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: It just says {coords}-l at the botton of every room name
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what room are you in?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Currently in my clan 
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well there's a trigger in the bigmap plugin that matches on "^\{coords\}-1$" and omits from output
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: In Aylor it gives me {coords}0,30,20
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there's also a trigger that matches on "^\{coords\}(?<zone>\d+)\,(?<x>\d+)\,(?<y>\d+)$" and omits from output
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do you have triggers disabled?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hit shift+contrl+8
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Well its a fresh install of the newest client so I dont think so?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: make sure Enable Triggers is checked
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Its enabled
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: peculiar
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what plugins did you say you have installed?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: At the moment I am using S/D and Bast Spellup and Spellup Miniwin
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and 'bigmap help' shows you some text?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: when I type bigmap help it gives me "Invalid bigmap option given."
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ahah. see, that means you don't have the plugin loaded
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: load Aardwolf_Bigmap_Graphical.xlm
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: xml
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Aardwolf_Bigmap_Graphical states its enabled under plugins
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wat
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kash grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok but that's clearly false
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: bigmap off
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Invalid bigmap option given. :(
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dethavin goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: this is getting VERY interesting
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish raises an eyebrow at Rex Daemon Crowley's weird actions.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: say again, crowley?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh, tried bigmap off and bigmap on. Invalid bigmap options given.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: are you serious?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: r1944 is my version.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the bigmap plugin hasn't changed in years
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Well I am able to turn it on and off with that command
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Hmm, guess I didn't have the plugin installed.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Whoops.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Okay, so those commands work, then.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, so..
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Dethavin: you can use bigmap on and bigmap off, but not bigmap help?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: So I am able to turn on and off bigmap but I cannot use bigmap help
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's bonkers
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'm able to bigmap help.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Dethavin: do    \\\CallPlugin("60840c9013c7cc57777ae0ac", "OnHelp")
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Type that into the client itelf?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: \\\ in the aardwolf client means to run that as Lua code
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: copy and pasted/entered that and it did nothing
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ...
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nothing at all?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Nada tried it 3 times
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Maybe he should just grab the plugin from github and install it anew.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: he just updated
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: unless there was an error in the installer and the file was locked or something...
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Hmm, so it should have been overwritten with the new.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which I guess could have happened
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but then we're in reboot and install again territory, which I hate
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Don't blame you there.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Dethavin: the only thing I can think of at this point is that you have a modified plugin loaded and also that your system is configured to not let it be replaced by the installer
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because I don't know of another reason for you to have on/off aliases but not the help alias
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Wait you know there is one file I am using thats not exactly a plugin but it might be causing this
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: It didnt even register until now
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok go ahead
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: WinkleWinkle_MobSubs
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no idea what that does
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Disable it and see what happens
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Hmm no way of disabling it since it stays in the main dir, lemme remove it and relog
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: uhh
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is it a plugin?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: No
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what is it?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Im not exactly sure what it is, but it helps with hunt and fixing certain names so it hunt correctly
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: bot plugin?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: No
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, I can't imagine what would ever interfere with bigmap help
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: unless you're, like, holding it wrong 
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kash snickers with Long Time Fiendish about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: The way it was explained to me was that S/D messes up certain long hunt names and this fixes that.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok but literally nothing and nobody uses bigmap except for me as far as I know
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: its probably the part of s&d that strips out unneccessary words from mob names to get keywords
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: which still couldnt interfere with bigmap help
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when you updated, you installed on top of the previous install?
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Tech I installed to a new folder and then just transfered my aliases, plugins and log files over.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: and Database
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The hard way, in other words
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Correct
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what if you try doing that again but this time without transferring anything over
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: see if it's maybe something you copied over
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: sure one sec
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Okay
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm going to head over to my gate from this empty bar. Hopefully back very soon.
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: So it would seem that it would have to be either winkles 2 plugins for the Map Extender/SD or Basts Spellup plugins
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: because on this base version they are finally not showing
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok so which one
T3/r7/2017-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for the record, I use bast's miniwindow spellup and do not have this issue
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravin Tech: I did something while running around and now my main window shrank. Any ideas how to get it back? (Mush Client)
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use mouse to maximize it?
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravin Tech: just the mini window with in Client, not the actual window
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if window supports resize then it is enough just to click on right-bottom triangle and resize it
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravin Tech: Yeah, mouse won't do anything. Shows arrows to resize but doesn't do anything
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you can always reset the layout too... sometimes that helps if things get too weird
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: depends on what is that window for
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravin Tech: It has to be a keyboard short cut that I hit somehow.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it belongs to mushclient package then resetting layout should help
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravin Tech: How do you reset the layout?
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it if belongs to some other plugin then you need either reload plugin or use plugin command for resize
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well if you change main window size, things will change size to fit inside of it
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravin Tech: it is main output window, room descrip, chat, everything
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: resetaard or something like that
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or maybe you've accidentaly locked layout
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravin Tech: that helped a bit. I can see the window and resize it a little, but it seems like there is a barrier mid screen. Can't extend window below it.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then tyep: "aard layout unlock" and try resizing
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravin Tech: still no luck, it only lets me expand it on the top third of my screen. 
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try restarting client then
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravin Tech: Ah, found it. Some how it opened up aard again.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravin Tech: Somehow it seems like I would have opened a second Aardwolf using shortcut keys that I don't know. lol
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan starts moaning.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravin Tech: Thank you for the help. 
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: what color goes best with my MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: purple
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I like purple
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone ever use the website browze.com? an add from them just showed up for a NES with 600 built in games for 29.95.. seem legit? I want one of those units but never heard of the website
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no idea, but why not do a Raspberry Pi build?
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: 600 NES games means it's probably not on the up-and-up
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: my mushclient somehow jumped halfway off the screen and now I can't get it back
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: any ideas on why my resolution suddenly changed to display larger than normal? thinkin i caught a virus since nothing i try is fixing it.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: so my display is much larger than it should be. i can't even see my whole mush window, just the bottom left corner. granted that's the most important part but still annoying. i've tried rebooting, resetting the resolution, nothing changes it though.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: are you on a laptop or desktop
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: desktop windows 10
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Have you tried removing your glasses, or moving away from the screen
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Have you checked to see if your GPU crashed or died?
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: i don't know how to check that so no
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: bambi i'm not going to justify that with a reply :P
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Your loss!
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: also oddly enough when i run a malware bytes scan for viruses, it finds, 12 and only quarentines 9, so i'm guessing that may have something to do with the display issue i'm having.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: normally it would quarentine anything it found.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NewDaddy Korridel Tech: Stupid question. Anyone here on Shaw in Canada and having network issues? Customer support line is down, and having issues accessing websites :P
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'd imagine if their customer support line is down, it means there's network issues.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Shaw is taking over from Rogers in my mother's retirement residence.  it was probably too much for them to handle.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NewDaddy Korridel laughs out loud at Kylia.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers with Kylia about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: They're trying to install today, actually.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Uh guys, we're having problems...Eh, just unplug the phones.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: well looks like korridel jumpex on the net
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: is there a sript out there that changes the number to retreat direction when in combat?
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: er number pad
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: oh what a beautiful idea for aplugin
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can utilize the keypad's secondary function (I think it's hold down control) to add more commands.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: okay thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yeah, Keypad configuration, click "Show Contents if Ctrl yadda", add 'retreat <dir>' for all directions. Then in combat, just hit ctrl+<numpad dir>
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i did not know that existed
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krung Tech: works great thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: hi guys, could anyone please tell me how to reset the gui for s%d? the thing moved up on my screen cant drag it down 
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol this must be the most common question that anyone ever asks
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: xreset gui
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: hehee :) it sucks i ve done it so many times but dont do it a for a while and then i forgot :p 
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: finger Starling and get updated S&D
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: xreset gui doesnt work :o
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: or do it the old-fashioned way.
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: xset reset gui ?
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: that works :p
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: i should put that as an alias :p
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: it's in ww help
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: What is the command to restore missing windows, like chat and stats?
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: define missing
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: disabled maybe?
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: tech Chat plugin is loaded, but I have no mini-window
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I guess you can try resetaard, but it will move more than just that plugin
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if that worked, you might consider using the layout save and restore feature in recent versions
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: is there a way to put Mushclient into a debug mode? I keep getting crashed out while not at the keyboard for a few hours and I would like to see the log of why
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eliar Tech: hi! i'm playing with the gmcp in my client, and trying to use the documented request commands, but it seems like nothing happens. i'm sending IAC SB GMCP request room IAC SE (substituted with the telnet control codes). has anyone experienced this?
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: why are you sending things into the mud over gmcp?
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eliar Tech: to get the stats/info again right after reloading my scripts.
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eliar Tech: which right now throws out all of my local variables
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: is your json correct?
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eliar Tech: it's not even in json format, following the instructions in the wiki (http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP#gmcpcomm)
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: ok, so are you using the gmcphelper? Or building your own?
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eliar Tech: building my own actually
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: so you are basically just "request char"?
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eliar Tech: yup, which should be okay depending on http://www.gammon.com.au/gmcp 'In the case of Aardwolf..' section
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: /// require "gmcphelper" charstatus = gmcp("char.status") tprint(charstatus)
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: that will print the return of a call to char.status
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eliar Tech: i guess it's a mushclient script, but i'm using tintin++
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: .... would have been helpful to know
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eliar Tech: i can send the very same way the core.hello and core.supports.set messages, which works just fine
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eliar Tech: well yeah, sry for that
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but you should be able to read through the mushclient gmcphelper and pull the bits you need for tintin
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eliar Tech: Shindo: just did that. it does the same thing with any gmcp requests, sending IAC SB GMCP <request body> IAC SE
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: oh i was thinking you could just convert it to work with tintin, the logic should all be the same, if tintin doesn't also use lua
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eliar Tech: nvm, i'm able to request data via standard commands, just had to read the wiki more carefully. eg. 'protocols gmcp sendstats' makes the server send char.stats again
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eliar Tech: tanks anyway :)
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eliar: I use tinyfuge rather than tintin++, but similarly have written GMCP-handling stuff myself into it, including being able to send GMCP commands to the MUD...
T3/r7/2017-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if I use my "send-gmcp" function to send "request area" the same way that I send "Core.Supports.Set [ "Char 1", "Comm 1", etc., it correctly sends me the GMCP area info
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: does anyone have like a notepad type plugin for mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: clarify
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: something i can make notes in, like a miniwindow that i can edit that saves across load
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i know about mapper notes but im looking for something that isnt based on the room
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: miniwindow means something particular
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: a miniwindow you can edit would be abysmally difficult to make
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: and that might handle multiline notes, i almost always have a windows notepad open but then i reboot or windows reboots itself and i lose it all
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea thats kind of what i figured
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: how about using notepad ++
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient does have a notepad though
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: well i have notepad++ does it save unsaved documents?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: write them in libreoffice and set it to autosave
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: hrm yea, i would just like to have it in mushclient though
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: notepad++ doesn't save to hard drive, yet, when you reopen the program, it will show the unsaved files 
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: you can save to hard drive too if you want.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i have this blank space right next to my group window where i could write your name if i had a miniwindow that would let me :p
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: maybe ill work on that next, would be a good way to introduce myself to miniwindows
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i have many tabs opened in notepad++ right now, has many tabs, actually too many, some are saved files, some arnt, and when i shut down the computer it, program, closes, then when i turn back on the computer, and turn on notepad++ all the documents reappear, saved and non-saved.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ah yea, thats a nice feature to have. i think i knew notepad++ did that but i never even considered using it for that purpose
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: when I tell a script to create a database, where does that file show up?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: do DatabaseExec and db:exec do the same thing?  or ... ?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: So I created a database file via lua, but it doesn't contain any tables or anything, even though it should have.  What is wrong?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: can a script have two databases open at once?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling peers around herself intently.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how does db:exec work?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monst Tech: sometimes I wonder why I even have this channel..
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: this sql stuff is really confusing
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: starling a long time ago i wrote a wrapper for sqlite in aardmush: https://paste.laravel.io/87c39b91-886c-45cf-b242-2841437ebbf1
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and you use it like that: https://paste.laravel.io/d9ea891d-10ac-4b5f-a79a-f6c54eca825a
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: h anyone know why blostorch freezes up when i play music and aard
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i have enough power for the game and music
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: lasher does not like the music you're listening :P
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: my pho e keeps quittiing  on blowtorch. any ixeas
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: hey all. my old mush version used to give me the room id at the bottom of the room's description, and I upgraded to the new mush today, and it doesn't do that anymore. anyone know how to get that back?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: click the * in the top left corner of the mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: click top left corner of the miniwindow to show map config, select show room ID to ON
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: is there a command line option?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: trying to make a command 'additem' that works like this:  additem a b  would add items a and b to a table.  But additem 'a b' should add 'a b' as a single item.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what string.gmatch pattern do I need?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I'm a vi player and clicking on the mapper window isn't an option for me, that's why I'm wondering if there's a command line option to access the config dialog.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: thought Fiendish had a vi-geared version?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: he does. 
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I'm using it right now, I just am trying to turn the show room id option on in config, and evidently the only way to do that is to click on something on the mapper window.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, the show room ID only shows it on the gmcp mapper anyway.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: What you can do is open the file in MUSHclient/lua/aardmapper.lua, and ctrl-F search for "SHOW_ROOM_ID = false" and when found, change false to true.  Then save file.  Then go back to mush, ctrl-shift-P to bring up plugin menu, reinstall aardwolf gmcp mapper.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: thanks, Starling.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: That should make the room id default to on rather than off
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: let me know if that works
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I'll do it right now and let you know.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: that didn't work. I presume it's most likely because the mapper isn't shown.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You'd be correct. As I mentioned, "Show Room ID" only affects the gmcp mapper.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Are you looking to have it displayed on the main output (perhaps after the room title, for example)?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: give me a moment to look at it
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: yes. it used to be below the room title.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: actually, below the room title and its contents, if any.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: it would say something like Location: manorwoods #52792 or whatever.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Are you sure you're not thinking about the movement points displayed by room titles while running?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Ah, okay. I think that's something completely different, then.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I need to afk for a while, so if you come up with a workaround, just send me a note on personal. :) and thanks again for the help.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Aardwolf_Bigmap_Graphical.xml:   local coords = string.format ("Location: %2i, %2i", origx, origy)
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That's wrong, Pwar.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That only shows the current x and y coordinates from Big Map.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: didn't say it was right was just looking for the text
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: ok, wow, yep, there is no visual map, is there?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not for VI players...
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: so you want something like "room id: 12345" or ... ?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Serves no purpose for them.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: and it talks
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I downloaded it
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Byrnatha, are you still around?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Guess not. I just wrote a trigger for her, heh. Will do precisely what she wants.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: https://pastebin.com/SsyNHyxW if anyone is interested. Gonna send her a tell now, though.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: eh, screw it
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: can't come up with anything that doesn't bomb the mapper or cause a disconnect
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Ever get your answer to db:exec, by the way?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: whatever, yet another thing I'm apparently getting wrong and don't understand.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley peers intently at Real ninja Starling.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello all
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions something something
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kash goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Fiendish: A VI user was asking about a setting that displayed the room ID under the title. I couldn't find it in any setting, so I wrote a quick and dirty trigger for her. However, if such a setting exists for VI users, where is it? Or what's the command?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: under the title of what
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'm sorry, I meant under the room name.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mapper thisroom?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: She claimed it said something like: Location: manorwoods #12345
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: No, she said it was a setting that always displayed, I guess.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I didn't think it existed anywhere, so I wrote the trigger.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I doubt it. I mean, there is an option like that for the mapper display, but for a VI player?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it wouldn't be too hard to do though
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh sorry, you said you did it already
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if something does that, it's not one of mine
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but if she finds it useful then I'd be very happy to look at it if you find it
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Okay, good. I didn't want to miss some piece of vital information.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or if what you've made fills the same need, then I'd be happy to look at that too
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'd imagine it's quite useful for some VI players, especially when it comes to mazes or something.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Like I said, it's quick and dirty for what it is. Tags roomname on, trigger on {rname}*, omit, and Note("Location: " .. gmcp("room.info.zone") .. " #" .. gmcp("room.info.num"))
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Er, Note("%1\\nLocation: " ....
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anything omitting the roomname would need to be careful
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe only in VI mode
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Made sure to put it back without the {rname} tag.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: simulated or noted?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Noted, though I don't know if Notes process on the reader.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Can be changed easily to Simulated, of course.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Didn't bother with TSR because color isn't typically needed with VI.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: god I have no idea if notes work. I flowering hope so
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'd imagine it does, since it's legit text on a screen, and not being triggered.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've lost the ability to run SAPI in wine for some reason
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so I can't easily test anymore
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's barely text
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: at least it's not a trigger though
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if it were a trigger then we'd know for sure that it doesn't work, so I guess there's that
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I got my new router, and it won't connect to the internet through my modem. my PC won't connect to the internet when hooked up directly to the modem. everything works fine with the old router. this is 100% the ISP blocking the new MAC address, right?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Raded: hook up the old router and do a dhcp release from it
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (if you can)
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: ISP won't block routers, only modems.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: otherwise you might have to power off your modem for a while 
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: that would've been smart.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: As far as I know, anyway.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think some do
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zyxyz Tech: your new router may have the ability to spoof the MAC address of your old router
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not block, as such, just only assign one IP address at a time
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: No ISP I've ever dealt with has done a router block. If they do, it's completely stupid.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mine definitely does
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I tried the spoof thing
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you look online for instructions on how to replace your FIOS router, the first instruction is always unlease DHCP
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but powering off your modem for a few minutes will likely also do the trick
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: well, the Comcast chat person is linking me to a page saying that Comcast only supports about 9 routers, so I think I might be hooking up the old router to do the release.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's probably a lie though
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: that's what I figured
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I had Comcast before, too.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: can't the chat person just do this for me
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: once your signal has moved to ethernet, it doesn't matter what equipment you use because the protocols from then on are standardized
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Horrible customer service, in my experience. Even their management team is shit. But I couldn't complain about the uncapped data I was getting for life due to their screw up.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Fiendish: I figured, but I think I'm about to be told otherwise
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you get into funny complications only when trying to replace a MOCA device
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Raded: You will be.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Raded: do you have the make/model of the one that works?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: But if you want to really mess with them, just say something like, "Yeah, I know the script. I used to work at Comcast until they did me dirty."
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Linksys EA7300, just plugged it back in
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantik Tech: You think dealing with the cable company is bad when it comes to internet?  Try having them activate a CableCARD (that *they* provide).
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Raded: 100% sure that whatever else you put instead of that will work once the dhcp lease expires
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I wonder if reseting the modem from my Comcast account would have done the same thing. I did power down the modem but only for two minutes or so.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Reseting the modem should have been enough
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it wasn't, that's why I did the Comcast chat thing
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: old router isn't connecting to the internet now either. thinking I should just unplug the modem and go do something else for a bit.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Did they mention anything about being able to reach your modem from their side? Sorry if you said so before
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: boo hoo you have FIOS.  i wish i had your problems
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish raises an eyebrow at Endymion's weird actions.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no, but the modem shows that it's connected on the device and on the Comcast website.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: the last time i did a dhcp release on my isp it took like 20 minutes before i was assigned another ip
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Any idea if the modem was setup in bridge mode for the old router?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: wait i thought i saw FIOS, now im confused
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mentioned it in passing
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: unrelated to this problem
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh heh
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: now i hate raded just a little less
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can hate me if you want?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i appreciate the sentiment
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: though I pay for 50mbps and only get 25
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded thanks Endymion heartily.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Daak: I don't think so. I seem to remember the modem working when I plugged it in and then I never did anything else to it.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I think I pay for 100mbps and get 125ish
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: during off hours, at leas
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so your modem isn't working right
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ISPs say it can take 1/2 hour+ for provisioning to activate a new one
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I don't know, man.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if you use old modem and it works, then its prolly not updated provisioning yet.. cause only 1 should work for you
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it's the same modem, new router
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: so I'm going to unplug everything and let time work its magic
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: thats what id do
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: my modem has a built in router, so i set a static ip for my actual wireless router i use
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: unplug modem, wait 20 minutes, plug mode, wait for it to full reset, plug in new router, if it doesn't work, repeat process with old router
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: did your old router have a static ip?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: 20 minutes? for what?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: for giggles?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: DHCP lease to expire maybe
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: no static IP
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if it hasnt expired you get it back
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: ok well everything is off and I'mma go to the store.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: thanks for hanging out with me, bois.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded misses the 'v' and wabes.
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: pick me up some wine coolers will ya
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im afraid his router is fubar, cause this doesnt make sense to me
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nah
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: its not the router its the dumbass isp or the dumbass modem
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: probably both
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so his modem doesnt provide the ip?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the wan ip.  why would his ISP affect anything past the wan ip?
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: maybe he didnt plug his wireless router into his modem
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its so hard to try and help people without being there. i wish i was at raded's house
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: correct, his modem is not providing his router with a wan ip
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: correct
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: agreed
T3/r7/2017-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i didnt mean to say provide, per se
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Endymion Tech: its so hard to try and help people without being there. i wish i was at raded's house
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: bro
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: aww that pinkness
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: so sensual
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: so I tried it again after getting home, no luck. PC directly into modem, nothing. unplugged the modem again, plugged it back in already plugged in to the PC, success. hooked everything back up through the router, no luck.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: lol i thought something wrong with my eyes
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: went through manual internet setup on the router, spoofed the MAC address of the PC, voila.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea seems like a DHCP lease thing
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but it doesn't make sense that it wouldn't have worked after being unplugged for hours then coming back and starting with the router
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: for kicks I tried switching it back to the router's MAC address with all other settings the same and it wouldn't connect again.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ive had similar issues with my isp
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: after dhcp release and switching routers it took awhile before my new router could connect
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: restart modem, that should clear its arp cache
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: usually though, if i dont dhcp release and connect a new device directly to modem it connects right away
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm not messing with success
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i wouldnt
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I've never not had a router connect right away after having the modem off for a few minutes
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: anyway, I'm leaving Aard on all night, because I'm testng things.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: goodnight friends
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: me neither, only time i ever had issues with somethong like that was when i dhcp released
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: hey all, having some problems with my MUSHclient. The minmap window no longer displays the map and i'm getting 4 lines of blue prompts every tick. I've changed no settings since I last played
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: blue prompts?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Derp, can you check if you have the Aardwolf_ASCII_Mapper plugin installed? shift+ctr+p
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: Its displaying "Regular game prompt rawcolor game prompt regular battle prompt and rawcolor battle prompt"
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: I have no idea.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: checking
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: for the prompt, if you have never customized it, try prompt all to reset it
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: thats a yes to Mapper plugin installed
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: ok this is a last-resort method, but harmless, it will reset your windows. resetaard
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: This is so strange since i've changed no settings from when I played 2 hours ago =\
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: ok I did resetaard command. Nothing changed
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: every few lines i'm getting "{prompt fixer end}
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: what does it say when you type automap ?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: you will no longer see the map auto when you move
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: ok, renable that. so that is a good sign 
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: I just want it in the little window like before. 
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: this is above my paygrade a) you have the plugin b) you reset windows c) you are receiving the map
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: I guess I would understand if I had changed anything from 2 hours ago but I just closed the application =\
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: for the map missing, you can try talking to fiendish to see if he has ideas. for the prompt, i dont  know if that is on the client-side or Aardwolf-side
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: Search "{prompt" (1 hit in 1 file) :/
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: Line 737045: [02 Dec 03:22:42] Derpindaisy Tech: every few lines i'm getting "{prompt fixer end}
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: This is the current output every tick Regular Game Prompt    : [%h/%Hhp %m/%Mmn %v/%Vmv %qqt %Xtnl] > 
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: oops, multi line msg there.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i wonder if a plugin is missing
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryltar Tech: quick question about prompts is there a way to make it more then one line?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: looks like something is sending "p data" every tick...
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Ryltar i think so but I haven't tried it. the helpfile shows %%c as the carriage return
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: ya heres one of the 4 lines "[Fighting: %h/%Hhp %m/%Mmn %v/%Vmv %Xtnl%b ]>%"
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: and then this after that : {prompt fixer end}
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: and its flooding the world really hard
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: if you type "p data" does it show the same output ?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: you need to go throgh your plugins i think, one of them is being a bastard
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: I reinstalled all of them. i'll try again. I'm just using whatever the MUSHclient came with. havn't changed any settings.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: you havent installed a single plugin that didnt come with mush?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: correct, nothing additional.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: idk then, anyone with a more recent version of mush want to do a grep for {prompt?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: that is not in any file in my mushclient directory
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: except my chatlog, which is when you said it
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: and even still, it probably wouldnt interfere with your ascii map
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: ya I just went through and reinstalled every plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: I guess i'll delete the folder and try reinstalling
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: what happens when you type tags map on?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: turns on
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: but still no map window?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: yup no map window and tons of blue text prompt spam
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: im going to delete and start over wish me luck ha
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: good luck?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: well I guess something must have gotten corrupted 3 hours ago when I last played
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: fresh install fixed everything
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: whats the command to set home as bouncerecall? it kept saying i need to use home or recall command to bounce recall and im usin home - mapper goto xxxx
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: whats wrong  there?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: first mark your portal as home portal - mapper portalrecall #
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so just "home", mapper portal home, to define home portal, then mark it as recall one
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: BOUNCERECALL FAILED: Portal #44 is not a recall portal. You must choose a mapper portal that uses either the recall or home commands for the bounce recall.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mapper portalrecall 44
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: PORTALRECALL: Recall flag added to portal 'home' to 'The Sanctuary'.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: thats why i dont understand why
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: |* 67 | manorsea   | Crystal Hall         | 50124 | home                 |   1 |
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you have "home" command as portal ?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i got it
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: it was dubbed, i deleted the one without red
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: thank you :D
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is there a technical reason that the three S&D plugins can't be combined into a single plugin?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think those 3 scripts were just created to be independent
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: would that still be a 1.3 version, or would combining them be enough to call it 2.0 ?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Hello, how can the room id be retrieved?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you use mush: mapper thisroom
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can also turn on showing ID on map
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: omg. derpindaisy was stuck at the paging prompt earlier.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Cool, this id is retrieved by the client, how?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Would Lasher get upset if the mushclient package defaulted pagesize to 0?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "blue text prompt spam" is clearly a pagesize issue
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just click on asterisk located left top corner "Map Configuration" then turn on "Show Room ID"
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Romantic, via GMCP
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: Hey thats me i'm derpindaisy!
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindaisy Tech: If anyone has the same problem a clean install fixed the issue for myself
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: is there a way to display the room id similar to objectid flags?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: invdata/invmon return objectid
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: can the room id be retrieved other than through gmcp?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: ty!
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can use GMCP in your own plugins though, check out gmcphelper
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You don't even need to create a plugin to use GMCP.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That too.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: \\\require 'gmcphelper' print(gmcp("room.info.num"))
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Is \\\ disabled by default? It does nothing for me.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you only need a plugin to notice when gmcp information arrives
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it is enabled by default in my packages, but it's a world file setting
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: script prefix does not default to \\
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I believe..
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: mine is / I believe
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: I didnt' look for it yet, but is there a spec with all the gmcp props that are available?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so if you ever had it disabled or different before using my package, then it will remain disabled or different
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yep, I just found it - mine is set to / also
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: For those looking, it's found in control-shift-6
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yeah, it's /// not \\\.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no, it's \\\
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: My mistake. :p
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but only if you originally got your world file from me
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh, duh.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Romantic try http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: thanks Ayasinda, also this: https://www.gammon.com.au/gmcp
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that is not for aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: is the information describing how GMCP works not accurate on that page? 
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: irrelevant. Ayasinda was answering your question about available gmcp properties
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: you are a pointy one aren't you
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know what that means.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Romantic chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: sharp enough to cut glass
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling nudges Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hard enough to cut glass?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: never claimed to be the sharpest light bulb in the toolcase
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: you are all very very vewy smart
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: can mushclient do animations?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I imagine one could draw and redraw a window rapidly
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, I'm running a tick timer clock that moves just like a real clock.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: yes but when i tried, the animation updated only each time a line was sent by the mud. and got no solution here
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not my plugin, but I'm going to utilize it to combine with my Aardwolf clock.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Timers can redraw animations...
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Repaint-Buffer
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: call BroadcastPlugin (999, "repaint")
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: I'm guess it
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: miss
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: Hi guys, how do I force Mcaffee to UNINSTALL, it automatically tries to reinstall itself and wont unplug..
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: https://www.wikihow.com/Uninstall-McAfee-Security-Center
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: I'm already referring to it as McCrappy
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Remember when McAffee was THE anti-virus to have? And when Peter Norton was a god?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what happened?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Time passed, both sold out
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: their software got really bloated
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and mcaffee himself is a weirdo :)
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Kaspersky is pretty nice now
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: well to be fair most security folk are a little weird
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: The lua 'Send' command issues to server immediately or when the script completes?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is nod32 still ok?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nobody should use any antivirus other than microsoft's these days, and even that is a headache sometimes
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Kaspersky is Russian! They're going to steal your FILEZ
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: I should have cleaned the whole thing completely out when I bought it...the laptop that is, and dont bother telling me why thats important...I know...just didnt care :P lazy maybe
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: acually everybody should use Linux and run Windows in one-time-use VM
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Romantic: immediately
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I just use microsoft defender and haven't had any issues at all with it.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Trachx, riiiiiight that sounds super convenient
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: the antivirus that becomes a spider virus yeah gotta love those
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: you know Kaspersky has been suspected of taking US secrets?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: security never is convenient
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: https://www.wired.com/story/kaspersky-russia-antivirus/  
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: most security is invasive...just ask the Bush and the Koch brothers :P
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: thinking about putting linux on this laptop when I get a new one soonish.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: we ARE their entertainment
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I feel bad for anyone who needs me for entertainment. I am really boring
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are many doubst about that Kaspersky really steals your files or not, any antivir can steal your files, as that is super-app that has access to everything
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: off 5
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: with a *
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: tech *off 5
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now I wonder whether Minix in Intel's CPUs is accessible in any way - like after receiving magic packet it starts to communicate
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: does mush provide an interface to an os 'sleep' api?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: New firefox seems to be faster and less prone to slowing down / falling over and dying than it used to be
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'd rather it didn't do it at all, but I guess less is a start.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if bast's campaign miniwindow isn't showing itself, is there a command to make it do so?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HEAVYMETAL Geji Tech: cp check usually works for me
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Kill the next mob and it appears.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: mcp cp toggle
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh there we go
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I found the secret "mcp cp" subsettings
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what does his cp window do?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It puts your campaign targets in a miniwindow.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: just shows the list of campaign mobs
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's why people quickly reject the complaint about "having to type cp check all the time"
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling goes, "OK".
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: is there a plugin that captures item info to a database?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: Having an issue with bast spellup plugin... I can remove/add all spells but it incorrectly is listing some spells as being Not Learned despite being at 85%. Is there a way to manually change them Not Learned flag?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: does 'bsp sadd <spell>' do it?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Try bsp slist?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: it adds the spell but views it as not ready to cast despite being at 85%
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: bsp refresh?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: for example.... "You have not learned 'lightspeed', but it will be added anyway, it will not be cast until practiced"
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Wait, no, slist doesn't do it.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: Your Level   : 110                   Learned:  85% 
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: the 1st is the message i get when using "bsp sa 259"
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: and the 2nd was the showspell 259 info
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Try reinstalling the plugin then.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: tried to remove plugin, cancelled all spells, added plugin back and readded all spells... "You have not learned 'lightspeed', but it will be added anyway, it will not be cast until practiced
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: same issue remains...
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: whaat
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe 'bsp senable lightspeed'?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: is says enabled by lightspeed is still showing as not learned
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do \\\print(GetPluginVariable("aaaf0c555a44169e0f1d9674", "practo"))
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: it comes back with 85
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: new router has solved all of the issues I was having with the old one. stupid Linksys.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nice
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what were your old router issues?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: not plugged in
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It was made by Linksys
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: linksys is cisco now they make good stuff also
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: on wifi, I'd lose connection to the internet, but not the router. I could run a ping to 192.168.1.1 with no issues, but randomly drop 8.8.8.8 while wired connections were fine.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: they make decent commercial equipment, but their home stuff hasn't been top end for a long time
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I use SSH for work, so I'd get 10-20 minutes before I'd lose connection to it. I've had an SSH session connected for 8 hours on the new one.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: that may be a keepalive issue
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Keepalives? For ping?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I have no idea, but no amount of tweaks would fix it, and more technical minded people than I were having similar issues. someone theorized it was the MU-MIMO system that Linksys uses, which apparently couldn't be disabled.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i think the fact that your new router doesnt lose SSH while old one did rules out keepalive issue :p
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: some devices will automatically disconnect sessions if no activity for a certain amount of time
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: There's also, you know, the fact that pings are connectionless
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: he was talking about SSH connection failure
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Zet: it wasn't that, all external connections would die for a period of time. sometimes for several minutes.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: SSH was just the example because it's really sensitive to even brief disconnections.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Endymion: He specifically said he could ping the router, but not 8.8.8.8.  Ping is connectionless.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh for christs sake, go back and read the comments again
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i have had ssh disconnects which we traced to different brands of router
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: but if you cant ping router thats different
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I always could ping the router
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I never lost connection to the router, but I would lose connection to the internet on wireless devices, but never wired devices.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: could you ping your router from your wireless device when having issue?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: weird
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: exactly :p
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what router did you get?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Netgear AC1750
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Was it that $90 one you were looking at?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: test
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Glad it works for you :)
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded thanks Birdbrain Metria heartily.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: zetkax, can you please explain to metria that you were referring to the SSH connection loss when referring to keepalive?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I was going to sell the Linksys but I don't think I could do that to someone
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: poor guy read ping and is stuck on it like rainman
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It'd work fine as a wired device
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: true
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: cheap switch
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Did it have gigabit ethernet?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: also true, but I don't really have a need for a switch. old one had gigabit ethernet.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i was referring to disconnects during SSH sessions caused by routers that detect idle connections
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the SSH was just an example though, I'd lose connection to everything.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: in .ssh/config you can add "ServerAliveInterval 600" to tell SSH to send something every 600 seconds to keep a connection alive
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: and it'd be different devices at different times. phone wouldn't be able to load anything while the laptop was fine, be able to stream on the TV but the tablet would be fine, etc.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: fair enough
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh i knew exactly what you meant.  poor metria is so smart he couldnt figure it out
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I cant always be there to help metria
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You mean you were ignoring the problem and focusing on a nonexistent one?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Endymion, if you could diagnose your way out of a wet paper bag I'd die of heart failure
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i think you ignored the 2nd of 2 comments and focused on it, regardless of application
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Because it was the RELEVANT one
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: also my timeout time on the SSH connection is set to 99999 seconds on the server, so no need for a keepalive
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: only one relevant to your comment, yes
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: relevant to the problem at hand, dipstick
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i get it, you cant scroll back or use -h.  its ok
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: guys please kiss
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Birdbrain Metria slides his tongue over Endymion's body...
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded thanks Birdbrain Metria heartily.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: is my netbios causing this problem
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: have you checked with Abelinc?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: not yet
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I need to rewire 3 server racks before I can report back to him
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what is this, a Hooters restaurant?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Not enough tits for that, Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's what I think of when someone says server racks
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Not enough tits there, either :/
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: ill never be able to look at a server racks the same way now
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: anyway. don't buy the Linksys EA7300. it's garbage.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i was thinking about getting a Google OnHub
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: "Supports 100+ connected devices, so everyone can get on at once" dayamn
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably not though
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I wouldn't believe that, nope
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Google can't lie
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: I am sure it supports that, but that is saying they will stay connected not that you can do anything with them connected
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Damn lawyers and their fine print
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: each Cisco AP post 802.11n supports 100+ clients as well, I wouldnt go there
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: buy the loudest mechanical keyboard that exists like TrEz
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: noooo
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I meant that for ft
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I ordered a mechanical keyboard but the switches have the word "silent" in them so I'm hopeful :p
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm actually really fond of the latest macbook pro 2nd gen butterfly switch keyboards
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it gets a lot of complaints, but I love it
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Complaints about what?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mostly people don't like getting used to new things
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: well the first thing that comes up for me on Google is an article saying, "The new MacBook keyboard is ruining my life"
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but it's the lowest energy keyboard I've ever used and it feels great to type on
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: all of the complaints fall into one of two categories
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sorry, one of three categories
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: how difficult is it to replace a keyboard on a random Windows laptop? mine needs replacing but I don't know if I want to go through the hassle.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That is VERY dependent on which laptop, some are easy to service, some are a nightmare
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: HP Z-book
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: either someone complains that the 2nd gen butterfly switch keyboard is too loud and goes clickyclacketyclack, which is true but only relative to the 1st gen which had a bad feel
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or they complain that it is hard to type on, which is definitely not true at all and a sure sign that the person us used to pressing the keys way too hard
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or they complain that the mechanism is too susceptible to interference from dust particles, which might be true but hasn't happened to us yet
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Regular dust, or like cheeto dust?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: teehee
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know because I've only read about it
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but I was scared for a long time about getting one for my wife because of all the moaning about the keyboard, but actually typing on it is kind of a dream
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's just hard for people to stop mashing hard on their keys
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Reviews are getting harder to rely on. Seems like every product you can think of, you'll be able to find at least a handful of reviews saying it gave the reviewer cancer or ate their dog or something.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which they should try to do anyway because that's how you get RSI
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'd say that typing on a 2017 macbook pro is about as nice as typing on my old thinkpad T43 was. better or worse is hard to say because it's been so long since I had it
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I need a new laptop
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's certainly nicer than my X1 Carbon
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: hi .. I am using the aardwolf mushclient. Is there a way to develop triggers to detect events from the comms channel window?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not with a trigger
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what would you like to do?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: It appears that triggers only detect events going to the main channel window. not the comms channel window.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you describe what you'd like to do, maybe I can help
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Stuff going to the comms log is coming via GMCP, which you can't trigger on.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: I would like to detect whenever someone auction something, automatically bid the id to look at the details of the item.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for that you need a plugin that watches for comm.channel messages from gmcp
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I have instructions
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Using-GMCP#gmcp-how-to
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you scroll down a bit from there you'll get to https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Using-GMCP#getting-notified-when-new-gmcp-data-arrives
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: thank you :)
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you'll want to look for text == "comm.channel" and then look at gmcp("comm.channel.chan") to see if it's "auction"
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: wouldn't it be easier for someone not familiar with it, to just trigger off of the output showing an item was auctioned?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type "gmcpdebug 1" to watch gmcp messages coming in. it will help
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you like making triggers. I just prefer gmcp
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ok metria confused me saying it wasnt possible because its GMCP, but everything in the comm window would have regular output - even if its not shown in output
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it won't have regular output if you don't echo
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if a channel is only captured to the communication log and not echoed to main output, then you definitely can't trigger on it
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: basically "everything in the comm window would have regular output - even if its not shown in output"  is wrong
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: at one point it was correct!
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah but not anymore
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: muahahaha
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the most best scenario would be adding gmcp triggering to MUSHclient, but it currently can't do that because GMCP support is only added by a plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: that would be really cool
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: feel free to suggest it on the forum I guess
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'd even dust off my mushclient forum login to agree!
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, once you get past the initial XML overhead, working in plugins ends up being a lot easier than working in basic triggers
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and nothing stops you from having a plugin for "all_my_custom_gmcp_events"
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hmm, the comm window plugin prevents it from being shown, so that's a pretty tricky way to be correct since you're preventing it from being triggered right?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Endymion: wrong
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: sure if you speak regex!
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Endymion: I mean...sort of wrong
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i just disabled comm window and i can trigger off of Tech output.. but when its enabled and not echo'ed i cannot :p
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Endymion: one of the plugins, I forget which, activates gmcp-only channel mode
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Endymion: so they really only come across over gmcp
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: interesting, so that plugin does the {tech} blah blah then i guess.  never realized it
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nothing adds tags back in
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because tags are actually pretty hard for people to deal with in MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but if you disable the communication log window, then the chat echo window has hiding disabled
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so it will automatically unhide things for you because I'm only 80% stupid
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: :)
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i am a victim of technology, sorry :p
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this is actually one of the bits I've suddenly discovered I have to fix in my complete log window rewrite
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What is?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: apparenty I don't unhide the non-channel stuff if you disable the comm log
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: my gossip channel doesn't show up on my main window, only on comm log window.  other channels don't do that.  how do i toggle the gossip channel to show in main window, and then off again like it is now?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so if you, e.g. capture but don't echo INFO:, then disabling the comm log might not unhide INFOs
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which means then you don't see them anywhere
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Right-click the comm log for options, Negader
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: right click then?
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Echo Channels in main Window -> Custom
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: thank you i see now.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: those options are going to get a little weirder in the next version of the log window
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: sorry ... was losing signal here and there as I am traveling and hopping from different wireless to another. 
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: managed to find out the following. 
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GMCP-only-Channels
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yep yep yep
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: It provided reasons for not being able to trigger outside on the main window.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: saving on needless bandwidth and CPU cycles I guess.
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: eh
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean, the reason is kinda not important
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: I read 'saving on needles' and totally started thinking something else lol
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: thanks fiendish
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: well you got black on balckie
T3/r7/2017-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: What is the command to reset the location of the S&D window?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Does that work on S&D? I didn't think it did.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: god i hate to agree with metria
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: xset reset <something>
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: yea thats it
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Spank Tech: Negader Got it.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: it
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what does he get?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: it's in ww help
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: idk a prize of some sort? ill give hiim a 3x incomplete heal for his efforts
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: just 1?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: what you think im made of incomplete heals?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: enchanters should be
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: oracles*
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh you potion
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you should scroll
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: nobody buys scrolls :(
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Scroll success is dependent on your scrolls skill, where potions just work.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i need to wait until people are doing an epic and then hit them up to buy 100 or so 3x scrolls
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: enchanters get a scroll bonus, genius
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: metria meant recite endy
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: your recite skill matters a lot
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: whereas pots you quaff and its just based on wis
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if you have a string containing "text", how do you use string.gsub to remove everything *except* "text" from that string?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: this doesn't quite work:  string.gsub("text,abc,def", "[^text]+", "") 
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for example you have "powerful amulet of nothing" and your thext is "nothing", so after execution you want to get "nothing" ?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: because it is trying to match the letters in "text" as if I were specifying a range
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is not enough for you to check that string contains text ?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: don't know yet
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: idk but gsub cant be used in that way
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: well wait... its a regexp
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: this doesn't quite work:  string.gsub("text,abc,def", "(?:^text)", "") 
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: doh
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: that would return ,abc,def
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I hit enter by accident
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: was a mischan
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: what is it you want to not-match exactly? like give us an example string
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: afaik there isn't really a good way to have regexp match everything except a string
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: well there are negative lookaheads but you probaby almost always want something else
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I ended up using string.match instead
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that picks out just the pattern I want and discards the rest :)
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: hrm, ok
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: guh, having not much luck with getting info from mapper sql db
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I can't figure this out.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: What SQL query would I need to select all pk rooms in the current area?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: hrm
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: well, that was a nice two hours for absolutely nothing
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is there info that room is PK (what table/field) ?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: rooms table, info column
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: heh, i think it even strips pk from the room name
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: select * from rooms where area = "icefall" and info = "pk"
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ah there it is
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the info column isn't just "pk" though, it can be things lik pk,maze,shop
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if the room has all three of those flags
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: select * from rooms where area = "icefall" and info like "%pk%"
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: now we just need to replace "icefall" with the current area
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess that was statement not a question :P
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: maybe something like string.format("SELECT * FROM rooms WHERE area = %s AND info LIKE '%pk%'", current_area)
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: that should work fine as line as current_area is always the name of an actual area in the database
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: all the names are in: speedwalk keyword
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: bagger has the keym he is also a shopkeeper
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: woot! I got it to pull the info I want, finally
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ganksta Toneloc Tech: looking for a good free anti-virus software, any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I use Avast.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ganksta Toneloc Tech: just saw an add for avast, maybe ill look into it
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ganksta Toneloc Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: why would mushclient suddenly start to fail to index 'wait' ?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: "attempt to index global 'wait' (a function value)
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: makes no sense, I didn't touch anything involving that....
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: why would it suddenly start bombing with that message?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you shouldn't index wait
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't tell me what to do!
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Sure we can. We can always tell you what to do. It's just not on us if you choose to follow it or not.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc tells Crowley where he can go
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I choose not to go there.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley wins.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You point at Don't go there!.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Nice try! I'm going there anyw... ARRRRRRRRRRGH!!!
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: so i have the help mini window plugin and suddenly it gave an error and now scrolls saying help_redirect not found or previous error, making the game unplayable, can any please help?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/endavis/bastmush/issues/15
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: is there a way to turn on and off a trigger easily in mush besides having to open it up and enable/disable it?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: EnableTrigger("name", true|false)
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: make an alias to do it
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Write an alias to enable/disable it.
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: is the name the "send" command?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i mean the trigger command?
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: whatever you have named the trigger
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: send to script
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i just type in the reateated success message.  so that would be the name
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: or is it the "group name"  
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: google mushclient and TriggerAlias
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: but otherwise the name is the label name
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: lable: is the field its called
T3/r7/2017-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunkle Fetard Tech: brand new washing machine, didn't drain out the water.. anddddd. GO!
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you did read the manual for first time use?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunkle Fetard Tech: Well it wasn't exactly the first use. I put maybe 3 or 4 other loads through it and it was fine. 
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunkle Fetard Tech: I suppose not draining the water is better than flooding the basement, but still a but of a nuisance. 
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: does the pump to empty it come on before the spin starts?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunkle Fetard Tech: hmm. great question, I'll have to observe it closely next time I run it. I had put the offending load in before bed and woke up to a soaking mess of towels. 
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: oh i've had towels just not drain correctly because they're so heavy
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Anyone using mush on different machines and sharing the world state files between the machines?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: how is that working out for you if you are doing so?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: that sounds dangerous hehe
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you mean like running it off a network location? or just carrying mush around with you?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: yeah, I'd put them on dropbox
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: if both were running at the same time it could be problematic if they are both reading/writing the file without knowing what the other is changing
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: I'm thinking of putting ./world in source control, minus state, at least that could keep things in sync
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: but if you back up your file you could surely try it
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: well, muds will log you out if log from one client if you log in from another one, but to your point, there could be delay between the file sycns which could lead to bad things.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I run the same mush install out of dropbox on different systems.  I can even run it in wine on my main system and natively in windows in another system (although I need to tweak the script relative path if I switch to windows).  No issues for me :)
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: yeah I think it should work fine as long as you're not using them concurrently
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Same setup here
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: anyone know why there is an _no_visuals.mcl in the ./worlds folder?  
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: VI players
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Visually impaired players
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: brilliant! tx
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: how do i get my map to come back up, the one that is through mapper?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: just gone dark all the sudden like im not logged in
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: mapper show
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: could you possibly be in a room that can't show the map (like a very dark room?)
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: great i have some sort of mapper problem, its not loading right.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: On tree page 17 cell 19: Rowid 2981 out of order"
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: I'm wondering, does the mapper offer ways to query for rooms by names or description?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: by room names, yes. mapper help searching
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: hmm, I wish I could merge mapper databases
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: realizing they are diverging from machine to machine quite badly now!
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: have you tried a cloud-based setup such as dropbox or google drive?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: not yet, I am worried of possible corruption.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: is the mapper using sqlite or some other format?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i access it through sqlite
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: where is that file?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: sqlite3
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: no, the mapper db!
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Romantic, good point about corruption - idk the answer. But you are asking in the right channel, someone has to have a setup to share across computers
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: it's in the door of the mushclient folder
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its called Aardwolf.db in the main mush dir
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: s/door/root
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: is there a spec describing the schema used?  
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: other than .schema?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: yeah, what's segment and segdir for?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: not sure, might have been things Fiendish added for searching faster?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Perchance, has anyone written a mapper db merge script?  Seems feasable
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Saw my name. What's the question?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Romantic is looking for a good way to merge map db's
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: or you could, you know, walk around and explore.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: I wouldn't want to have to explore everything twice *smile*
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so do it only once
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: I'd still endup with two distinct db
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what is the scenario we're talking about?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Depending where I am, I have different machines. I have 2 different mapper dbs that are getting quite apart from each other.  I'm looking if I can merge them after the fact.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: imo I'd pick the one that's more complete and go with Zhalut's suggestion of using a Cloud service to keep them consistent instead of trying to merge them
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Can the location of the mapper db be configured to somewhere else?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: for that option to be considered, I would want to only sync the db file, not the entire mush tree.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: you can sync just one file with dropbox. idk about corruption or other services
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: why not sync the entire folder though?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Ignoring potential corruption, that would mean manually moving back and forth the file.  
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: nods. cloud services store version histories so you can restore a backup if something happens
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: I've thought of that Raded, the issue is I wouldn't want to have per machine settings synched.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i do know dropbox doesnt like filenames that start with periods.  .whateverfilename . that would cause an issue
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: makes sense.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Fiendish: are there any design decisions witht he mapper db that would prevent a merge script to be written?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: cloud service will have backups and there are many backups in the main/db_backups
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: In that case, store the mapper db in the cloud (e.g., dropbox) and use a symlink in your mush installation to point to it.  I did that for several months without any trouble.  Now I just do the whole mush folder to keep things simpler though.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: symlink could work.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: for different machine settings, you could have different world files, or is there something else you are looking to accomplish?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: define "merge script"
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Add all mapper information in A that isn't in B to B.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: That would prevent it?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Not any that would prevent it. Probably a lot of things would make the result very noisy though.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: You'd have to specify either some decision criteria for choosing which side to accept in a conflict
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: re
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: er
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: either some fixed decision criteria or ask the user about each one
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: otherwise you could have a bunch of bad exits
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Yeah, I agree on conflict.  Some conflicts are less important to me (like notes) but some might be trickier, like exits? or room flags?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: one second
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: isn't it safe to assume that both tables would be accurate, just one with less entries?  they are populated the same way
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: or not less entries, but missing entries vs each other
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: balls. the sqlitemanager firefox extension no longer works in new firefox
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that was my favorite tool for browsing the db
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanctus Tech: Is the firefox source available?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: also curious, my db has 15k rooms but I visited no more than 7k
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Endymion: I can't remember if the exit table contains timestamp information or not
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i started using sqlitestudio
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: speaking of which, i want to start using new firefox i think
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sounds neat
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: It comes with some areas already
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the map comes with continents and some newbie areas preloaded
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which in retrospect might be a mistake
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but some mistakes aren't easily fixed
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no timestamp
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Someone mentioned sqlitebrowser.org as a alternative to missing extension (not me, just mentioned in channel, not vetted it)
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: dir, from, to, level
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: mistake from a gameplay perspective? why explore the continents?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: would need rooms table also
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: funny you ask about that timestamp, seeing as how that was what was what s&d was using as "start room" previously :p
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanctus Tech: How big is the Aardwolf.db?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Endymion: yeah but those timestamps aren't used by the mapper :p
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mine is just uder 14MB
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sanctus Tech: lol, i can make that just under 2MB, using my very own compression utility.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it would be fairly easy for one to use sqlitebrowser to 'merge' their databases (one off), or to write a python or lua routine to do it
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: can _lookup_* tables be reconstructed from the rooms table? 
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Romantic: I can think of no great reason to not make people populate _every_ room for themselves
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Obviously everyone should have backups, and not having backups leads to catastrophic loss, which is unfortunate and ideally prevented.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: I agree with that. Or have in game mechanics to acquire 'maps'
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: What, you mean like completing a goal?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that would be interesting
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: yea, complete the academy, get aylor map
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it could be worth suggesting, though I'm not sure that it ends up changing much aside from the experience
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I tend to think of goals as  things that probably lead to filling out the map anyway
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Depends what the game designers want the newbie experience to be.  
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and what about people using clients that can't run mapping systems? what do they get instead?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Shindo: A punch in the teeth!
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: good point, maybe just a bonus.  Anyway, just riffing
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: What does rooms_lookup_content track
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: where do you see it
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: aardwolf db
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: There is no mapper client side 'explored' flag, or am I not finding it?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: correct
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: what does ignore_exits_mismatch mean in the mapper db
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it wont overwrite your cexits with mud exits
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its an option if you right click a room on mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: what do we mean by 'cexit'? 
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: custom exit
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ignore exits mismatch is useful for certain rather infrequent problems
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: like displaying through instant teleportation rooms
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: regarding an 'explored flag' for the mapper, the mapper considers the 'explored flag' to be defined as "if room exists in database, room is considered explored"...other than what ships with the aardMUSH packages already there, there's no reason for the mapper to know/care about explored, only about "do I know about it"
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: Makes sense Abelinc. I'm just considering that there are already 15k rooms prepulated in it that I haven't personally visited ;)
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's nearly all continents
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can always purge those areas from the database
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or better, explore them by going east 30-60 times, south once, west 30-60 times, etc.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but watch for area entrances in the minimap as you go
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: is mapper.lua the file that is powering the mapper window in the mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's got mapper "engine guts", but not the "window" bits
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: greetings, abelinc
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: aardmapper.lua
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I hadn't noticed the subtle name difference
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: greetings Pleiades :-)
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romantic Tech: a ah 'heavily modified by Fiendish'
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Are there instructions somewhere for migrating Mushclient to a new computer?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (1) quit MUSHclient. (2) copy the entire folder. (3) use on the new computer
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Thank you:)
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: abelinc, did you just kill my desktop?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: it was Abelinc in the Bathroom with the Wrench
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: is there a way to use NotePad++ to count the instances of a phrase in a large text file?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Search?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It'll tell you how many instances it's found...
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: oh I'm dumb, I didn't see the count button.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sure you can do Count
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: disregard me.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish is snog from here.
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: test
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Did it work?
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Redoing the comm log?
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryltar Tech: how do i get the blowtorch plugin ?
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: which blowtorch plugin are you looking for?
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: if you are already running the latest blowtorch version do a google search for blowtorch plugins and find the dablock or maybe it is blockda repository and down load from there
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: github.com/blockda
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: Hey guys is there a way to use the lua wait to wait for a variable to be filled ?
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: Anyone on mush with alot of play time willing to do me a huge favor?
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: Well, its a small favor..  But its a favor :)
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Okay, I opened mush from my dropbox on a diff computer. Everything is different. It's like a fresh install
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Also, contrary to the info from aard's website, aardwolf.org is not 66.228.127.34
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: describe the procedure you followed to put it in dropbox?
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is the one in dropbox the one you typically use? or is it a copy?
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Shouldn't matter - I used this on other computers, worked as expected
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Same dropbox
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, so it's the one you typically use just from a different computer
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Nod
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Ahh
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I see now
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: noob mistake
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish smiles happily.
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Dropbox is still downloading some preference file
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo bonks himself and grimaces in pain.
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: uh oh
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: be careful
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: See you in a bit :p
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wait wait
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Wha
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: be warned that this is how people sometimes lose data
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if MUSHclient saves the bad state on top of the good one, then the good one will be overwritten on your other computer too
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: How do I quit without saving
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because dropbox will transmit the new (old) state
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Copy the current dropbox folder to a new one maybe just in case?
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so I'm not 100% certain exactly when saves happen... but at least press Alt+1 and uncheck Save Automatically if it's checked
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: via dropbox I mean, not your machine
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: What I will do is download the unfinished dropbox downloads from the website, then store those
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think dropbox has a history archive, so if something bad happens you might be able to just grab old versions
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but just good to be aware that this kind of problem happens sometimes with dropbox when users rapidly switch computers
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Yeah, noob mistake heh
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Codex whines pathetically about everything.
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Interesting
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: There's a copy of the prefs file, says it's conflicted
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I will store both somewhere, just in case
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Okay, trying stuff out. Wish me luck!
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: good luck!
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Did not do a single thing, re-opened mush. Back to my prefs (:
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: crisis averted
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo flails his arms about wildly.
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: good to hear!
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Thanks guys
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: SED drives usually require controller with SED support or at least BIOS with SATA passwords,  are there any drives with some kind of BIOS/boot loader that prompts for  SED password
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ?
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: so... i dont get it... why are window shade motors so goddamn expensive?
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: niche product
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: only a person with money to burn buys a window shade motor
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: sound is out if sync on html5 player, has anybody had issues like that
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: win 10
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: on my external dac it's ok
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: changed drivers, reset drivers, disabled excluse app control
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: if i am trying to input an EnableTrigger into a plugin how would i do it?  I have an alias set up for the plugin that works perfect, i have it set to send to "script" but i want to buiild it into a plugin im trying
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: any suggestions
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't understand the question
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kristoff Tech: is there a way to reset mushclients windows to default?
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kristoff Tech: without reinstalling?
T3/r7/2017-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: aardreset (or resetaard, I never remember which order it's in)
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyone kow how to highlight a single word in MUSH? For example, highlight just my name anywhere it appears.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: hi, i've installed the aardwolf mush client and the main window is transparent with the aardwolf logo on background, is it possible to turn the window opaque? i want black background
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: hi
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: does anyone have the trigger messages for double exp handy?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: Must I get 7 inch tab or 5.5 phone for mudding? the phone got 5200ah battery and the tab 2800
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: how do i capture lines in blowtorh for trigger related usage?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: there should be a menu with alias / trigger etc. you build triggers there
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: for lines that never change you just put the text in the phrase part then select the wsy blowtorch shoukd respond
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: for the latest blowtorch version there are pluins available at github.com/blockda
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: ty vm
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: also look at bt.happygoatstudios.com for how to do button groups and other stuff to customise blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: hi
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: Must I get 7 inch tab or 5.5 phone for mudding? the phone got 5200ah battery and the tab 2800
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Anyone using Durel's dinv plugin, got a question about managing equipment sets and containers
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I might be able to help :)
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: You were AFK, heh, ok so I have a 1 set, 41 set, 171 set in different containers
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: When I switch to the 41 via dinv set wear, it's leaving the level 1 items in my inventory, would like them to go to a container, possible?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It will remember the last container an item was in.  If you put the level 1 items into a container, the next time it is done with them, it will put them back where it got them.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If it doesn't know where an item goes, it leaves it in main inventory
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Ok, nice, followup question, how can I put items of a level 1 in my inventory that are wearables into a container, I'm not getting the right query to avoid worn items and stuff like scrabble
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You could do something like "dinv put 2.bag type armor || type weapon"
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Oops, forgot the "level 1" clause
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: dinv put 2.bag level 1 type armor || level 1 type weapon
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: that will take items that I'm wearing through, correct?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I only want the ones in my main inventory
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yes, that will match everything.  Hmm, let me think about how to specify just in main inventory
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I don't believe I have a flag to specify a location as main inventory.  I should add that :)  It's now on the wishlist.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: It wouldn't be necessary after I put the items in the containers like you said, but I'm first setting it up, so if I switch from 1 -> 41 set, I'll have some level 1 items still equiped like aard items, and a bunch in inventory
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: In the meantime, you could just put everything into whatever containers you want and then use "dinv set ..." to pull out what you want
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Nods, will do, thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Great plugin!
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Excellent.  Thanks for the feedback :)
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hey all
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hi
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: I have a file on my tab, it is 4.4gig, when i plug it into my pc it shows as 384 mb, copying it to oc still shows 384 mb on pc, any solution?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: copying it to what?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: pc
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what kind of file is it?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: iso
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's probably not fully downloaded
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: browser said it was done and it is viewed as downloaded by my dowloads tab
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Galaxy tab's filesystem is FAT32, maximum file size is 4GB, so the file is likely corrupted and incomplete.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: FAT32 file size limit is 2GB
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dillon frowns sadly, looks around and goes 'meh..'
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Ah, you're right, I'm thinking of exFat
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: heh, thanks guys now i know for next time
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: fat32->2GB, exFat->4GB
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: so even if it views as 4.4g on my tab, it is corrupt?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Most likely.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Is it an ISO of a DVD?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: If it successfully wrote it, it may just be unable to read it back.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: windows 10 iso
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: But likely it's not a good file.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: downloaded from the windows site
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: If the TAB is ineed FAT32, then ya you can't copy it there without splitting it
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: how about bluetooth?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: In Mushclient got a mapper message "failed integrity check"...restore a know good database backup immediately.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: where do I find such a thing?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GMCP-driven-world-mapper#restoring-from-a-database-backup-after-corruption
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: experiencing some computer trouble lately?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: new computer
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: did you just recently copy your database file over?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: copied everything over, and it seemed fine
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: did you quit mushclient before copying?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I'm pretty sure I did.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: But in all my enthusiasm, it is possible I forgot to do that.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Your instructions look easy to follow for restoring:) Will try that.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: re restoring mapper database:  I restored most recent aardwolf.db without success, then went back and restore the next one (older) without success. Any other suggestion?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what happened?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I get the same message. FAILED INTEGRITY CHECK
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: try rebooting. if the files work on your old computer, then it sounds like there's something wrong on the new one
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: It's been fine for two days now (the new computer).
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: but I'll do that
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sure, except that sqlite can't validate any of the dbs
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Kylia: also, if you're not using the latest version of the aardwolf mushclient package, you can try updating. After r1830 I made integrity checking more thorough.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: There a command to list all mini-windows?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sort of
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I can't find Bast GQ window, even if I'm on a GQ, and since it squelches the gq check results, it's kind of a pain ;p
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: CP works fine
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=WindowList
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is there an 'mgq gq show' like there is for mcp?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: ya
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mgq GQ show, then mgq GQ front should show it somewhere, otherwise, you can do mgq GQ reset
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: only when on a GQ?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I know I have to use mcp cp show after requesting a campaign from Kaija's manor campaign giver
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Daak: probably, been so long since I touched that plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish comforts Bast.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Just reset it, did show/front and got no window.. but I'm not a GQ so we'll see I guess
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I use the miniwin_events plugin, it shows quests, cps, and gqs in the same window
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Well, my problem is that the StatMon includes xBroadcast_GQ
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Which was eatting my 'gq check'
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I'll try miniwin_events and see how that goes, thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I need to fix all those broadcast plugins to only enable the triggers when the plugin sends a command, but, I also want to rewrite all of bastmush, because I did some pretty dumb things and overcomplicated a bunch of stuff
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just haven't found the drive to do it
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I hear ya
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: re database integrity.  Rebooted computer, and still getting the same message...FAILED INTEGRITY CHECK
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can also use miniwin_tabbar to manipulate windows
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Kylia: I should have said this earlier, but if you're not using the latest version of the aardwolf mushclient package, you can try updating. After r1830 I made integrity checking more thorough and a newer version might be able to recover the failed db.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type checkversion if you want to see what you have
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: web address for the updater is in my finger
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: yes, I'm using r1825, which is not the most recent.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah. see if the updated version is able to recover the file. there are some kinds of integrity failures that are recoverable, but 1825 didn't try to recover them yet
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: re mapper integrity...I've updated but MUSHclient mapper window is blank. How do I fix that?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: uh
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: define blank
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber gets a blank look on his face.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: It doesn't have a map on it..just version info for MUSHclient mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded gets a blank look on his face.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: did you get a message about database integrity when you started mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: No
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: by what method did you update?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: DUH!  Yes, it flashed by!  A real mess...said it was Rebuilding indexes. Then a bunch of warnings re Aardwolf.mcl Tags not used.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Then asked for password, then connected anyway
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: show me everything it said
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I'll paste it to a note
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: hmm that didn't work out so well...
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: let's start by trying to answer the question I asked before
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: how exactly did you update?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you update with the installer then you shouldn't be getting any tags error messages
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I put some of the mess in a note...but had too many long lines.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: did you use the installer or no?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I used the zipfile
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Because that's what it said to do.  Then I unzipped, copied over .db etc and .mcl.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what's what what said to do?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: The link for updating mushclient.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: must have been following manual upgrade
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which link?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/unzip_upgrading.html
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, but why did you go there?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Because that's the first place I was directed to.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: by who?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Client updates at http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I did leave my old installation intact. Plus made an extra copy.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok. let's start clean then.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: that is, of the one that failed integrity check
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: go to https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/ and get the installer
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: run the installer and point it at the old installation
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the page you linked doesn't make it clear that using the unzip method is far more headache
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but it should
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: now let's see if I can deduce what's going on with the mapper plugin from what you posted to me
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: It says to point it at my old installation...is that the folder Aardwolf-Mud-MUSHclientr1825
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it could be. what's inside thta?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Some individual files and a number of folders including  worlds and aardwolfclientpackage-MUSH client
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what is "aardwolfclientpackage-MUSH client" ?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: let me see...
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: folder MUSHclient, and a bunch of folders including worlds etc
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so you have mushclient inside of mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: It appears so! lol That's my one and only installation effort prior to today
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Maybe I should point the installer to the folder MUSHclient then?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also, while you're doing this, can you email or otherwise send me a copy of your db file? the error you're getting from it is a new one
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: When I installed to the folder MUSHclient, I couldn't start Mushclient...It said the file MUSHclient\mushclient_prefs.sqlite is read-only
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: It isn't read-only in Properties
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: did you quit mushclient before installing?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I'm now using the next-to-last version, with the mapper window not populated
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: generally people don't have nearly this much trouble
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I'm thinking maybe I should at this point delete all mushclient stuff from this computer, and go recopy my old installation from the old computer.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: while you're doing that can you send me a copy of your database file? I'd like to check it for errors
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: aardwolf.db?  I now have a few of those.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: let's say the original one
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: okay..from the old computer, then.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: See you later...have a lot to delete here.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: trying to load a Bast plugin and getting an error, as below:
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: cannot open E:\aardwolf\MUSHclient\myplugins\luapath.lua: No such file or directory
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: what is this file of which it speaks ?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Normally all the Bast plugins would be in worlds\plugins\Bast folder
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: no such folder on my system
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i do have worlds\plugins
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: did you unzip his plugins to E:\aardwolf\MUSHclient\myplugins ?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: all of them, not just the one you wanted
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Some of his plugins require other ones
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i just copied from web the statmonitor.xml
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: You'll need to get luapath.lua as well
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Think that's the only pre-req for StatMon
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok i'll try that
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok i'll try thatfinger daak
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: A map shows up whenever an area repops..is there a way to get rid of that?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: shows up where
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: i don't think the MUD does that, it's gotta be a script doing it
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: in my main window.  It was showing up every time I walked into a room, but I toggled automap, and that stopped.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it sounds like you have the "Also Show Map in Main Output" setting active in the overhead map window
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: omg don't turn off automap
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: you're gonna want automap on...
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: right-click on your ascii map miniwindow and deactivate Also Show Map in Main Output
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I mean granted, I know players that dislike the ASCII map and have it gagged, but having 'automap' off, means you'll never see the ascii map unless you type "map"
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Which also means your map window won't update
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I hid the ascii map ages ago..how do I find it again?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Like i said, some people don't like it. A bunch turned it off the second it was introduced
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I use the non-ascii map
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: I couldnt imagine life without it 0.o
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Some of us were on aard before it had it to begin with, it's a nostalgia/immersion thing
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: The ascii ones give way more information, I actually show both, heh
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I can understand not wanting it blasting into your main output, but that's gagged by default with my miniwindow plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: The mapper map, which has boxes for rooms. That's what I use
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it only shows in main output if the player explicitly turns that on
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: For some reason, some things in my Mushclient have reverted to what they were in the beginning in my version.  Tags on, for instance.  I fixed that.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Tags HAVE to be on
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: some tags have to be on
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The script that gags them failed, but a lot of the functionality won't work correctly without tags
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it depends on which plugins are active
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: not the ones with the {} on them
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: map being one of those, iirc
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: I still wish I knew why my coords wasnt not being gagged, but its not a big thing
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yes, those are still used at times. Fiendish's MUSh version turns the tags it needs on, and gags away the tag itself
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Which tags weren't being gagged for you Kylia?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: deathavin: were you the one who mysteriously could use only some of the bigmap plugin commands?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Yeah which is still the case as well Fiendish lol
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: can you send me a .zip archive of your mushclient folder or something?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: tags like {rdesc}
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: rdesc is used by the ascii map plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I got rid of that issue
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: the mapper uses that...
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: but I don't have to see it.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: You got rid of it by turning off tags which is going to break a lot of things, which like you see now with the ascii map
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Breaking the expected behaviour of a plugin can have a cascading effect
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: which you also turned off ;p
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I've never had tags like that visible on my main screen.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You're just hiding the breakages, putting on bandaids if you will, instead of fixing it
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: tags shouldn't be visible if your plugins are working correctly
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Your issues are all still there, just now your scripts won't work right
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: what is the ltalk channel?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for leaders
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: If I could just get the ascii map visible again to stop it echoing to the main screen, that would be a big help.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: leader chat, clan leaders to clan leaders
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well at this point, because of the various things you've "fixed", who knows what else is broken to even know what's up with your map.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Those are things I "fixed" two years ago.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: And all my plugins have worked fine.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure that only the ascii map plugin requests a map update on repop
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: and are still working fine.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and I'm also pretty sure that the ascii map plugin hides rdesc tags
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ascii map plugin is quite useful if you are in mazes
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: it definitely requests update on repop cause doors close
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes that's why it does it
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: of course if we could request the map over gmcp then this wouldn't manifest as a problem
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: honestly almost all those coord tags could be converted over to gmcp messages
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Only if I can get it as an array of gmcp emissions, and not newlines in a single emission :P
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: But I've never seen that map in my MAIN window..since 1 day after I installed Mushclient 2 or so years ago.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Pwar: the coords thing is a telopt problem
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Pwar: telopt 2 does "Bigmap + Coordinate tags" instead of having them be their own
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Kylia: yeah, I bet it's because you disabled tags
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: turn your map tags back on
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Kylia I will pastebin my current tags and you can compare to yours
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Just disabled asci mapper plugin, and reenabled it.  Now I see all the tags again, like {chan ch=tech}
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Kylia: https://pastebin.com/qTz3Y3mm
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you see channel tags then you aren't using an updated mushclient
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you can compare to yours and ensure you have the same tags enabled I believe mine are all default for the aard client
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the aardwolf mushclient package sets your session to gmcp-only channels mode
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which means your install is messed up
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I don't see them normally with this version.  This is not a re-install.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ah ok
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this is the old one?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: got it
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so you're on 1825 right now
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: yes  Now I typed tags off, but I still have the ascii map showing up when an area repops, and I can't find the minimap to select whatever option removes that.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: noone should ever type "tags off"
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: under pretty much any circumstance
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's basically guaranteed to cause a problem
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: How do I fix {chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech:  then?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: are you using the communication log plugin?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: don't see a plugin with that name, and thus I've never had it.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the plugin name would be Aardwolf_Chat_Capture_Miniwindow
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I see it. It's not enabled.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so you disabled it
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is the Aardwolf_Chat_Echo plugin loaded?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: No such plugin listed
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so what plugins _do_ you have loaded?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe if we know that, we can help get your tags in the right order
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: right now it sounds like you can turn off channel tags
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: since you're not using either of the channel plugins
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Ascii mapper, BigMap_Graphical, Chat_Capture_Window (disabled), GMCP_Mapper, Group_monitor, Health_Bars, Helper_Aliases, Main_Layout, New_Connection, Prompt_fixer, Statmon Tick_Timer, plus S&D related stuff, and minor other stuff I don't really use.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: channel plugins are quite convenient, maybe you should just reconsider turning them on
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if they need to be on they'll be turned on
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: right now nothing is using them
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Those are turned on, except Chat_Capture_Window
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Now that I've been told I can't just type tags off, I need to know as well how to turn tags off.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, so you have the ascii map plugin loaded, which means you need map tags on, but you can't find the miniwindow
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: tags channels off
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: tags map on
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think the only way to find the ascii map miniwindow if you can't find it is with resetaard
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Okay, and now how to turn off {/rdesc}
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: tags roomdescs off
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: only version of the ascii map plugin newer than what you have uses it
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you update again it will be turned back on, but they won't be shown because you'll be using a plugin that masks them
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the rdesc problem is because you effectively downgraded
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's one of the things that temporary session tag settings is supposed to fix, but maybe that isn't working
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which is important for me to find out
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: But I haven't downgraded. I deleted all the mess I made this morning, and just copied over my installation from my old computer, which was fine.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you downgraded from your previous failed upgrade
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, you didn't do anything wrong
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: though...if I'd asked you to quit and log back in instead of letting you turn off tags roomdescs, it's possible that they'd have gone away then too
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Well, I'll just put up with {/rdesc} and the graphic on repop.  At least the channel tags are fixed now:)
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which would mean that temporary session tags were working after all and you just hadn't logged out
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Kylia: tags roomdesc off, didn't work?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: okay, logging out
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: tag roomdescs off, rather
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Okay, thanks for your help...I think everything's under control for now.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: did you find your ascii map?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I saw it, and hid it again!  I like the other map:)
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: where was it hidden?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you don't like it, why are you hiding it and not uninstalling it?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: god knows...I reset, and it appeared.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I was told you couldn't get rid of it.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can definitely get rid of it if you want
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: It's okay...It's nicely tucked away.  If I ever have any need for it, I can get to it.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: until you forget where it is
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: does anyone have the text string for when million monster double exp hits?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: can always reset aard again:)
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: something something another million mobs
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: thanks Fiendish :P
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Main/MudMessages
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Million double : Aardwolf rejoices in the death of another MILLION monsters.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: ahh wow that's a helpful link thank you
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: sigh...how do I get rid of the tag from {tell}You tell 
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: tags tells off
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: tags tells off
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: tags tells off
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish giggles.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I let you know when others crop up:)
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: does anyone know the strings for when *you* go superhero loud? or have a log containing them you can link me?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Again: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Main/MudMessages
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I think it's all on the Aardwiki, under General -> Mud Messages
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I looked there couldn't find that one
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can find pretty much all the trigger messages you want there.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Under "double"
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: not the double message..
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's the same as when you see others. There's no separation.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's the same as others
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: read what I typed again
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: We did.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: They're one and the same
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: YOUR message doesn't change. It's displayed to the MUD, not to each player.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Rex Daemon Crowley.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: so there's not one message when you sh loud that says "You have gone sh"
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: ie no way to distinguish your sh from others?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: and if you NEED to catch when it's yours, if (playerName == myName) do
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: the name is in the message
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: was hoping for a better way to do it than comparing playername
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Why?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, there is the message before the actual SH loud message. It's the confirmation one, but I can't remember what it is.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Multiple triggers vs single trigger with alternating code paths
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Something about you spending 500,000 gold and 1000 quest points, yadda yadda.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I don't want my trigger to depend on playername variable if possible
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: because I don't populate that variable :P
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: all I really wanted was a text log of someone going sh
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You don't have to populate the variable.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: if (%1 == @myName) do mySuperheroFunction else otherSuperheroFunction done
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you guys are trying to solve problems I don't have heh
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can do if "%1" == gmcp("char.status.name")
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: or even just a hard coded `if (%1 == "Pwar")
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Ahh, duh, yeah just get it out of gmcp
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: again all I've asked for is if anyone has a log showing the text when you go sh but thanks for all the solutions :P
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Also: There's really no need for that, Pwar.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: if you want a list of doubles, subscribe to the twitter bot :P
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: this has nothing to do with double
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you guys keep reaching and assuming all sorts of reasons for my doing this I really just want the text
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You'll never know everyone who superheroes anyways, if they go silent there is no notification
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I give up
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You wanted a way to differentiate between, say, my personal SH vs yours. We told you how to do it.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: no if you scroll up I asked for the text when you sh..
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Then be clearer. We have answered what you asked.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you guys started playing jump to conclusions and trying to give me 500 ways to do something when I just wanted the text
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I must have said that 5 times :P
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: And I told you the only one that I can remember is the confirmation text when you SH, but I can't remmeber what that is at the moment.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: is there any reason a player should get newest version of mushclient vs 4.93 ? I'm not having any roblems, just asking
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You should always get the latest, in my opinion.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Fixes bugs, adds new features, etc.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: isn't there a website abelinc has with all the logs or something?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger me, baby
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: did you finger him?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The logs won't have the SH message you're looking for, if that's what you're trying to find. I'm trying to find it, too, by the way, just for you. BUT! Abelinc logs everything... Abe, can you grep the SH confirmation message?
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The one that says something like, "You spend 500,000 gold and 1000 quest points to superhero."
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: that would be the most ideal message I could use too
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, sure I can grab that...gotta see when my alts last SHd :P
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, that's the one I told you about, but told you I couldn't remember what it was.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley grins evilly at you.  Hmmm.  Better keep your distance. 
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I know I'm sorry I was getting frustrated but I literally just wanted that text string and you guys were trying to solve it in other ways
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: We're IT. We make things harder than it should be 99% of the time. :P
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Plus, your question was grossly misunderstood at the time. :P
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, I didn't get any message about being charged SH fees. The message that you probably want is: Congratulations! You are now a superhero!
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Congratulations! You are now a superhero! You receive [1
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: just found the same thing hehe
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: perfect thank you :)
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the message has now been added to the MudMessages page on the wiki (http://abelinc.me/messages)
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: there's a little more text after that describing the trains you get etc
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Congratulations! You are now a superhero! You receive 200 trains for superhero loud.[0
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, my last SH was in February, before that
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: 0h 10
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: yeah cause hallowed stats are so good, if I rem my light and do eqsearch it has suggestion
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Heh, I could have sworn there was a confirmation message of how much you spend. Odd, then.
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I'm getting a failed db integration upon opening mush. What's that about
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I restored the latest db backup, error is gone
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: any reason why mush keeps freezing alot ? i keep getting not responding messages
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Gonna need a lot more info than that to make any sort of educated guess
T3/r7/2017-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: there is 0 reason to hide the volume slider in youtube. 0. not 1, not two. 0. yet they decided to hide it unles hovering over the icon. 
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leandor Tech: hi. in mushclient, i'm trying to call a function in the "script" section of the alias window. so in the alias window script section i put "clear_targetEnemy()" to clear my target, but i get the message "the script subroutine must start with a letter...."
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leandor Tech: any ideas?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leandor Tech: its not working
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leandor Tech: i guess a better question is. how do it call a subroutinetargetEnemy guard
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leandor Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leandor Tech: heh. i meant to ask. how to do i call a function from my script file from an alias?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: When you minimize mushclient why do the toolbars at the top reposition themselves?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: 0h bast
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: anyone know why my mapper wouldnt be working?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: i have GMCP mapper and GMCP handler installed
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: define not working
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: i have the window for mushclient mapper but it just has text in it. Typing look doesnt make it turn on
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: typing mapper doesnt bring up the help
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: but i have the window
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: it's 'mapper help'
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: okay cool. So that works. But the mapper still isnt showing anything
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: move a room
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: Nope
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: does "mapper thisroom" shows correct ID?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: it says i need to type look to initialize the mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: recall is 32418, 1s: 32419
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: i think this started when i tried to use a mapper backup
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Are all your map tags on: "tags"
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: yes, my 3 map tags are on
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: disabled triggers / plugins ?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Game --> Configure --> Triggers, check whether they are enabled
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: i dont have any disabled
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: they are enabled
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: it started when i moved an aardwolf.db file from my backups to my mushclient folder and renamed it from aardwolf.db.backup or whatever to just aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you think that was caused by backup - just reload plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I hope you moved it when mush was off
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: was the client open when you did that?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: i have done that. Ive uninstalled them and reinstalled them completely
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: i did. it wouldnt have let me move it otherwise
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: is it just GMCP mapper and GMCP handler?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: the only 2 mapper plugins, i mean
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: oh now im getting a plugin error
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check "mapper showroom 100" 
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: that did something
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if that shows maps then there is something wrong with GMCP handler
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: for "tags" does, bottom two lines both say "on"?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: not for repop, but for scan, yes.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have you upgraded mushclient with old S&D ?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: The last two lines, the NOTE one?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: i dont know what you mean trachx
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: the last 2 lines in tags?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: date_added is used by S&D to find first room in area
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: is that where my error is?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it was removed in recent (rather older) version of mush
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: finger Starling and get updated S&D from her 
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: i would prefer to use the S&D version i have, if its possible
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then you need downgrade mush
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: You don't see "Global tags option (tags on/off) is On." and "NOTE: GMCP session tags option is On." as the last two lines of "tags"?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: i can use it for GQs
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or maybe I am wrong
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: ah yes, i see global tags option is on. I dont see the Note
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: that error code i sent to you for my mapper plugin makes absolutely no sense to me :/
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: oh okay
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: hey, i fixed it
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: What was it?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: i had 2 winkle plugins, a mapper extender and a mob mapper. I uninstalled them and now it works
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems your database is corrupted
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: WinklwWinkle and Starling S&D aren't compatible together I don't think
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: my xrt isnt working though
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: They're forked, but still similar enough that they step on each other
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: plugin (mapper) tries to do something with rooms table and expects that date_added field is there
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: i would like to only use winkle's
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Starling's is the updated one
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but your database does not have that field (like upgraded one)
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Winkle's is unmaintained, Starling took over with her fork
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: Yea. it cant do GQs though
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: any way to do a mashup so i can get hers to do GQs? :P
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so it seems like you have old mapper plugin with newer database version
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: is it an older mapper or just older winkle?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: S&D has nothing to do with that (at this stage)
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you can combine the code yourself, sure
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: too old mapper for this database
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need either older database or add column to table
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or newer mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: yea now my mapper is completely black
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: but it worked on continents
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: super sigh.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that error is caused in function save_room_to_database
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: could be caused by new cexit at recall
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caleigh Tech: wouldn't more people be having the problem if that was it? 
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: so. update my mapper?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, update mush
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: will winkle stop working when i do that>
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is a problem only if your S&D was customized
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have stock one getting Starling should be ok
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: its customized
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: hang on, disconnecting
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: current MUSHclient/mapper with Winkle's S&D will NOT allow xrt to work at all
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have other database backups - you can try use older one - maybe it has correct database structure for your mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: holy crap super-long note for a clone of Bast's eqdb :P
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it does a little more
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need an older database...you need an older MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Abelinc: It's so much more than a clone of Bast's EQDB.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now he has database without date_added field 
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: And, it actually works better, in my experience.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trachx: the database will always match the aardMUSH...you can put a 5-year-old database file into a new aardMUSH, and it'll be converted to the current schema (including no date_added field)
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: For instance, it actually analyzes equipment based on scores you use for priorities, and wears the best equipment for those scores. :p
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: How do I make Bast events miniwindow reset GQ's, it's not clearing it out if it ends
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: or if I don't take one, it stays there like one is available
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you have to echo info and global quests into the main window from the communication window, that window eats the events
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger goes, 'Nom nom nom'.  What's he eating?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, is that what some of the changes Fiendish was making a week or two ago were to help with?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: don't know, but I spent days troubleshooting my code and then in a eureka moment, check that, and there it was.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Abelinc: right, but what if you do: you get new version of mush, which converts database, then S&D stops working, you return to older Mush (which expects that there is date_added field which was dropped by new version of Mush)
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trachx: when you launch MUSHclient, it updates the database
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: right click the communication window, echo channels in main window, choose Global Quest and Info
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: sorry, right click the communication window, echo channels in main window, echo other info, choose Global Quest and Info
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I do echo them all already
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Abelinc: new aard package has updated database from X to Y, but Y does not work with S&D, so Granola returns to previous aard package but keeps his mapper database which now is version Y,  but old mush does not work with version Y which is too new for old version, that is Granola's problem
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Why does Y not work with S&D
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotcha...I knew all of that except for the "returns to previous aard package"...yeah, that'll work
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: because Y (new) has dropped date_added - used by S&D to determine first room in area
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bamboo: because S&D (from Winkle) doesn't work with aardMUSH newer than a few years old
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: current S&Ds from Nokfah, the guy that keeps deleting, and Starling work fine...just not Winkle's
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Daak: are you echoing notes to the main window? Because that's the line the gquest plugin uses to determine the end of the gquest
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Who's the guy who keeps deleting?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You make it sound like Nokfah's the guy that keeps deleting.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but Granola's using the closed source Winkle "with GQ enhancement option"
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, that dangling modifier was confusing at first :P
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc uses The Oxford Comma
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So do I! :p
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: i typically do too
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: But not with a dangling modifier :P
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i totally forgot what the oxford comma is :(
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: are my mapper portals and plugins saved in my aardwolf.db file?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Bast: Yes, it clears the GQ is I win. But if a GQ is available and I don't join, it stays as "GQ Available" forever, and if I join a GQ and don't win it, it says with my current progress
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: a comma after each item in a list.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's "one, two, three, <-that one and four
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: portals
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: plugins (what to load) are in *.mcl
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: oh yea i dont use the oxford comma then, seems extraneous
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some US people like to leave off that last comma in a list...Oxford doesn't
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it often clears up confusion, although in this case it introduced some
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea i remember reading an article where someone got sued because of an oxford comma (or because of NOT an oxford comma)
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: cant remember it though
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, and I meant this guy:
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Original character Morphonious, TheDevil (forgot password) and Deathbolt (archived) were both alts of Psycola. Psycola renamed to Bloood, recreated on 2014-07-20, recreated again on 2014-10-27. Created another alt Lunk on 2015-06-23. New alt TheOracle created 2015-11-08. Alt Lunkinator created 2016-01-05, wrote a farewell note on 2016-02-23. Also has alts Mission and Stormblades. New farewell note on 2016-06-17 after being chanbanned. Created new character "Maybe" that same day, and still plays others. Yet another alt MasterYoda created 2016-08-07, created new alt Drokith on 2017-04-13.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: sigh...
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok i get it now
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 'sup Zarra?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i think thats where i got my s&d
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: just watching what you're saying lol damn
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Daak: what version of my plugins are you using?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast: is there a quick "checkversion"-like command for your stuff?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: r2100
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "plugins" will tell you in the version column
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's a pretty big output tho :P
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "bup help" I don't have a specific command to just show the version
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Bast: using r2100
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Daak: interesting, everything works for me when doing gquests, the next time you take a gquest, do a "bgq debug" and it will tell you what it's doing.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Ok, will do.. is it possible to reset the GQ tab to blank without restarting?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: depends on which miniwin you are using. "plugins reload mev" for miniwin_events, or "plugins reload mgq" for miniwin_gq
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Using, events not, thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: is there any easy way to simulate a gmcp event?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Are you needing to trigger something with specific stats?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: if by stats you mean json
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not even remotely close...
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: let me try to reword, can you simulate receipt of a gmcp event using a "fake" json string instead of the one received from the server
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: anyone know why my aardwolf.db files wont work? they keep breaking my mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not to my knowledge.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: None of the backups work, and i have a newer version that i had emailed to myself from a few months ago, and its not working either.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: becuase you use too new aardwolf.db with too old mapper plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Of course, you can pull the gmcp information with protocols gmcp <option>
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: I just got the brand new mapper plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: The question might be better put if you asked how to fix it, not asked why it happened.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: I downloaded aardwolf from the website and took the 2 mapper plugins from the new version
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: okay, well how do i fix it? :P
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I do not think you can just take 2 plugins from newer package, whether it works or not - it is just lottery
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: ah okay. I assumed they were just plugins, so i could do that
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: get sql editor and add column to database
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: where should i add it?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: They are NOT meant to be peacemealed like that. Take all of one, and run with it. Mixing and matching is guaranteed to have unforseen side affects, and may also just not work at all
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that should work with your old mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: alright
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: download sqlitebrowser_200_b1_win.zip
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just bing it 
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: yessss
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: My portals are back too.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: thanks so much for your help, everyone.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: yay
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but what have you done to fix this?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: any way to refresh the overhead map mini-window without moving?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Type map?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: I tried, but it doesn't seem to work
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: reload the plugin?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what do you mean doesn't seem to work. what are you expecting to happen?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: see other players move without moving
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: are they moving?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: well, that's what makes it so hard to test. Was just wondering if there was another command to refresh it
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: map is the command
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: and that should refresh the window, too?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: k thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: my mouse suddenly seems to keep spazzing out (moving erratically) since i turned on my pc today... any idea what might cause that?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: something on the sensor?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Is it optical?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Dirty sensor, or someone playing a prank? :P
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea optical, i just wiped the sensor, no difference
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you could try unplugging it and plugging it back in, sometimes usb has problems
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: tried changing usb port too
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You using it on a highly reflective surface?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Maybe a short in the cord?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: .movemouse redryn -random
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: crap
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: slightly translucent map, but i've been using this surface for a few months now
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: try rubbing alcohol on a Q-tip to clean it
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just tried that, still the same
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sensor looks clean enough
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: try a different mousepad maybe?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: even worse
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: debris inside the optical mouse
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: an itty-bitty spider or fibre or lint perhaps -- gently shake the optical mouse
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: doesn't seem to be dirt related
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it moves even when i'm not touching the mouse
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: could be something in the mouse or the mouse might be dying
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that would be very annoying, going to try and reinstall drivers anyway
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: no new recent usb additions?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with so many usb ports these days, some usb ports like to collect debris and dirt -- in humid weather, debris and dirt is conductive 
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: eh, i wonder if it could be a motherboard problem
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Just try another mouse, if it works fine, you know.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: looks like an issue with the mouse
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: As I mentioned, maybe a short in the cord somewhere.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: another computer here erratically rebooted even when turned off -- then months later: blowdusted the insides, sprayed the usb ports with moisture remover lubticant, and computer wouldn't reboot at all -- then found the disk drive cable was not seated properly -- so reseated the cable, and the computer worked again 
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh god, you still exist? Ugh.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You sprayed WD-40 in a USB port??
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there's the problem
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is that something i can attempt to fix crowley?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: should have sprayed it in your ear instead
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not really, because it would mean the cord is damaged.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's just a guess, obviously, but you can check it, ultimately, by holding the end near the mouse as straight as possible and moving the mouse.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: first used a "fluid film" rust and corrosion protection spray - leaves minimal or no residue
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: How can it protect if it's not leaving something behind?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If your USB ports are corroding, you have your PC in a really bad environment and you're gonna have issues no matter what
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: then used (shake before using or there be guck) Jig-a-Loo all round lubricant 
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Take the PC out of the bathroom.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I use the water tank on my toilet to double as my case, it's water-cooled
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but then how will I use it while showering?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a few months ago, the humidity was so bad, the phone was crackling - required to replace the telephone wires inside the house, and clean the jacks extensively
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: after a few decades, cheap telephone wires act like charged batteries, jacks become corroded and or covered with dirt which partially shorts and causes lots of crackle
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I built an electric vehicle that runs solely on decades old phone wires.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley has driven it. It runs quite well.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You get that old ghostly ring every once in a while, though.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Just take the handset out of the glove box, yell "HELLO? HELLO?" into it a few times, then keep driving.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley slaps himself on the head and yells, "DOH!"
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 0.04 volt won't run much and the current is likely extremely low
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Bell phones lines use a DC current, and with high humidity, cheap telephone wires corrode slightly and become "charged" like a battery 
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: those USB connectors like to sprout rust in humidity
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a lot of the land-line phone crackle is caused (1) by resistances from corrosion and dirt covering the metal contacts at the jacks, and (2) by dirt short-circuiting in the jacks (10,000 ohms from conductive dirt is a enough of a short-circuit), and (3) perhaps by the "battery" effect (0.05 volts) from a little as several foot of telephone wire -- all going imtermittant crackle wild during high-humidity
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Xyliz, I'm concerned. Have you had a stroke?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think that ship has sailed
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I take the blame. I summoned Xyliz a few days ago
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: you forgot to mention 4) another element in the circuit, such as a light fixure.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (4) being miles downwind from an industrial shop occasionally spewing hydrochloric acid fumes -- likely causes the USB connectors to sprout rust blobs
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you can get him to say his own name backwards, maybe he'll go back to the 5th dimension
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley cackles gleefully at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I can't believe he's still talking.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: leave him alone.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: i used to keep muriatic acid (for cleaning scale) in the house -- then i noticed the copper metal pipes turning a deep bluegreen color from the leakage out of the stoppered bottle 
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Gah, tech going off until it goes back to actual tech-talk and not gossip-talk.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: well technically its tech-gossip so... still on topic
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: extremely difficult to stopper the halides and hydrogen halides - they like to leak out slowly and corrode things
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: corrode things like the exposed metal circuits in cheap dvd remotes
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: so if you want your electronic equipment to go haywire or kaput, expose them to the halides and hydrogen halides (extremely small amounts long term exposure)
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: this last windows update has done something to my touchpad, re-enabled some of the annoying features maybe?  anyone else run into issues like this?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's always possible
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: No, I use a mouse. Sorry.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the last debian update made my trackpoint basically unusable
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I noticed the same thing with the toachpad, but ASUS has a way to disable the touchpad if it detects a usb mouse interface.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, lots of computers have that as a BIOS option...for touchpads, I also usually install the manufacturer's drivers to have the utility to turn off touch-to-click and such
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: i previously connected both a ps2 mouse and a usb mouse, and both a wireless keyboard with a wired keyboard -- both pairs worked simultaneously -- so a touchpad and a mouse are supposed to co-exist simultaneously
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they are, unless you enable a feature which automatically disables them, which is a standard feature on laptops
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: don't suppose mush can run Lua and Python scripts at the same time, can it?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it can
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: i think the script interpreter can be set to only one at a time
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but one of the two languages can only exist in plugins
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plugins can use alternate languages
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Oh, so I can run Python and Lua plugins?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so MUSH itself would be set to Lua, but a plugin can be configured to python
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course you'll have to have python on the machine to use python plugins...lua comes with MUSH, but python doesn't
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: new is not mushclient's native language, just as python.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1215 Magna didn't quite get that sentence
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: me neither
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: mush has its own scripting language, the use of lua, or javascript, or other scripting languages are an extention.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: huh.  Mush is a 32-bit, not 64-bit application.  I guess I never bothered to check.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: what does the data bus size has to do with anything?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: or at least with the native mush language.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSH has some of its own syntaxes, but it doesn't really have its own scripting language...but it ships with one, and can be used with a dozen others...
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: well world.WindowCreate is native to mush and there are a whole lot of those around.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: those are just the API
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: they don't cover the language part
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's a syntax, not a scripting language...
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: WindowCreate (win, 0, 0, 200, 200, miniwin.pos_center_all, 0, ColourNameToRGB("white"))  -- create window
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how you USE world.WindowCreate depends on what language is selected
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's the Lua version of it
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient includes the Lua interpreter and also supports other languages via the windows script host
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: open up all of the function helpfiles, and you'll see the helpfiles have a section on each of the languages, but none for "no language" or "MUSH language"
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: well, we must have our languages crossed. The API exposes the functionality and the syntax shows us how to express said functonality. That works just like a language to me.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I would call Lua the closest to MUSHclient's native language, since there is extra code in place to support it
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the API doesn't expose the functionality without using one of those languages, though, Anaristos...unlike, say, zscript, which could be fully-functional without using other languages
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: In this context I would call "language" the thing that allows you to build logical constructs. looping, conditionals, arithmetic, etc, which MUSHclient does not build in
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: There's no MUSHclient way to loop. There's a Lua way, though.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or vbscript or whatever
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I think you already covered it when you mentioned Windows Script Host. Lua is embedded, the rest is not.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: then there's the MUSHclient API which are the set of functions used to tell MUSHclient to do things
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and there are two versions of the API: Lua's and WSH's
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: is there another place besides config/triggers to enable triggers in mushclient? suddenly none of my triggers are working
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Are they actual triggers, or part of a plugin instead?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: triggers I've added
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: did a script crash?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: any orange error text?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: And you're saying you have "Enable Triggers" checked in control-shift-8?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: so basicly a tablets lifespan is only as long as its batteries life?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: metria: yes, starling: no
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I can't think of any reason why triggers wouldn't fire given what you've described
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: restart mush?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: I even quit and restarted mush, I must have done something but I don't know what. Thanks, I'll keep looking
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: what was the last trigger/plugin you added?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I don't know if it matters, but is "Scripting Enabled" in shift-control-6?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: it was, I tried unchecking it and restarting, gonna check it and restart again
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: last trigger I added was while exploring partrixis maze, I added one to send 'exits' to the mud. I'v esince deleted that,though.
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: haven't added any plugins in months
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hrm, what was that triggering on? ^[ Exits?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: a mapper addnote that I had
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: doesnt matter i guess if you deleted it
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I guess if you had a trigger that matched everything and didn't have 'keep evaluating' set would cause the behavior you're seeing
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: did he verify his prompt ends in %c ?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thats what i was thinking too metria, thats kind of what i was getting at
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: does that completely change the behavior of triggers?
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: I found it, evidently while setting up that trigger I accidentally created one with a solitary * in it
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: lol noob
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yep, thatd do it
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: phew thanks y'all
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Birdbrain Metria enthusiastically high-fives Cap'n Gus Grimvald!
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: yep, deleted that one, all is well again
T3/r7/2017-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: gj
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: I have an odd question....
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: 2 of my exwives apparently had my usb port card from my laptop...why? what can they do with such a thing?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: pcmcia card?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: usb3.0 54mm
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: express card....they came up on amazon at $2k but little info on what exactly it can do
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: yeah pcmcia express card.. you put it in a laptop to expand it's hardware
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: functions similar to pci card in a pc
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: would it hold info on what I do with my laptop? or...any other type hacking ability
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: i mean...why would they have removed it
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: nah it would just provide usb plugs
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: to use on another laptop maybe?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: they have pcmcia cards that do all sorts of stuff
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: they can be used to add usb ports, wifi, ethernet card
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: weird...these beaches are weird
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: beaches love pcmcia cards
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: lol cool :P 
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: maybe I should duct tape it to a fly swatter and 
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok wtf am i doing wrong here... :(
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: im trying to use OnPluginPacketReceived with a regex and it doesnt seem to be matching or rather... its always matching?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: local pattern = rex.new([=[^.+]=] .. prompt_char .. [=[$]=])
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: prompt char = ">"
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: why on packet?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: im trying to do a duplicate prompte omit basically
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: prompt*
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: packet doesnt start/stop at line breaks
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: well thats a problem
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i use regular trigger to gag duplicate prompts
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: can you just send me yours?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: or tell me...
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mine is pretty complicated.  it matches p data, then modifies the trigger when it matches a prompt
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im not looking to try and explain it at this time :p
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea that explains nothing, my only question is how do you get it to omit only when its a duplicate?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i use 2 triggers.. one checks p data and sets a vague trigger to match prompt..  that trigger sets another gag trigger to exact prompt
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i still dont see how that gags duplicate prompts
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: seems like itd gag all prompts
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: 1st p data trigger sets the gag trigger to match prompt.  then gag sets it exactly to that prompt to gag it.  so 1st always re-sets gag while gag only gags specific
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: see this is why i didnt want to get into it.  i assure you it works perfectly for me.  however its part of a plugin im not going to share or disect
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well this might have all you need, depending on specific prompt that may or may not break the trigger.  looking at it now i'm not sure i could even describe how it works :p
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: https://codeshare.io/ay7q3b
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok, ill check it out
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok its empty. :p
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: empty?  really?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok nm it took a few mins to load
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i left and came back, now i see it
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: c detect
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so yeah, my plugin checks "p data" which starts the ball rolling
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: wtf now it dissappeared again
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: heh
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: wth kind of site is this?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: someone is a peach
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: anyone with link can edit :p
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: that is dumb
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i'll send you another in tell :p  gimme a minute
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: k
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ty
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Star Wars Tech: omg that was fun to watch...
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: was it?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its not empty anymore
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: all i saw was a troll and one other person
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: no its not
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: but its also not lua
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: this stuff may have to go into aardquotes
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I can't see comm.quest in Mush.  I can see it in Cmud.  What's going on?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: plugins catch and gag it in mush?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: its gmcp
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm not sure
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: so doubtful
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm just doing print(gmcp())
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh right, cmud displays gmcp
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hrm who gave me the gmcp output cmds before for mush?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm just doing print(gmcp("comm.quest"))
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: returns nothing
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: blank line
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hrm, i cant remember
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: maybe you havent receive a comm.quest
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: comm.quest should come with q i right?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I have, though
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I just took a quest and am currently on that quest
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: turn on debug: gmcpdebug 1
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you have the gmcp helper plugin loaded right
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: id go 2
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well 1 only shows what you just received
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: %gcmp in cmud is a variable not a function. so #print %gmcp.group
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: comm.quest was received when quest was completed
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: print(gmcp("comm.quest")) still shows blank line
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you have to include "gmcphelper" to use gmcp(x.x)
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: rather, require "gmcphelper"
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: print(gmcp("char")) shows a hash value, tprint(gmcp("char")) correctly shows the char table data
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: print does it right, tprint is just a formated print :)
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: tprint is for tables
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I understand that.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dont think you can call comm.quest the same way you can char.base for example
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: and yes, I have "requir gmcphelper" in my script file
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: it's gammon's function.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Plugins seem to receive the data just fine, I just can't access it from the command line or from any triggers/aliases in the main client proper
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im just saying tprint only works on tables
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: and print wont work on tables
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok so i got comm.quest data on quest request and quest complete
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I got the data
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I just can't access it from the command line
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: right because its not stored the way the tables are i think
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: makes sense, you need to do an onpluginbroadcast call, then set variables after that
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the function gmcp() should be able to get it though, right?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: if i understand correctly
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: gmcp() just calls what gmcphelper stores
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: probably not
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: channels arent stored i think, and comm.quest is a channel
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you need to look at the function in 'help gmcp'
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: and the corresponding webpages
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I thought comm.quest was a submodule
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: and do all your stuff from wuthin the function on that webpage
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i can attempt assistance although drunkenness > 0
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: so what should I do?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: what do you want to do is the question
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: be able to refernce that data from the main client
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: just use the bast suite sheesh
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you need to make calls to onpluginbroadcast in a plugin and check if comm.quest before you can use the data
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: otherwise a) it wont be there and 2) mushclient wont know what you want to do with it
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the command line, not a plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thats a non-starter
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: command line doesnt have a listener
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: what he said
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you need a plugin to check for a broadcast and then fill variables when it gets the comm.quest
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You're not listening.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you need something to constantly process gmcp (gmcphelper) and something to listen for broadcasts of that data
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: they are called triggers
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: gmcp(x.x) does not send anything to the mud.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: If I do print(gmcp("char.status.state")) I get 3.  The data is there, I can get it from the command line.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: without a gmcp handler, you cannot trigger off of gmcp
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I understand, but the triggers are the listeners.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: only IF that gmcp value has been received within the last broadcast
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: right because that data is stored and you can call it.  comm.quest is not the same
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: well, capture comm.quest in a gcmp trigger with cmud.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if I do print(gmcp("char.comm.quest")) I get a blank line.  The data is not there.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: comm.quest is only sent when you quest request or quest complete and alos maybe if you quest info
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: he's in mush now which is his problem
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: in fact I can just say comm.* and parcel out the stuff manually
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: But it didn't work while I was *on* the quest either!
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thats what were trying to tell you
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: cmud converts gmcp into output right, which can be triggered
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: its only sent when you quest request or quest complete
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so he cannot trigger gmcp in mush, he needs an OnPluginBroadcast to catch comm.quest
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: Starling: did you read the webpage in help gmcp?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kobus nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: like cmud will output: {tell} Soandso tells you, 'wtf dude'
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but mush needs a broadcast to get that same data
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: well, there is a comm.channel stream
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well, the output needs it
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but no handler to provide it to output i guess
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: oh, it's displaying an empty string
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's...
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: it took me a long time to be abe to use the OnPluginBroadcast for gmcp data, but im pretty sure ive igfured it out, at least somewhat
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: woah
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i can totally write a function right now, but that isnt what starling wants i dont think
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: also what is tprint? ;?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: print contents of table
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok kudos
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: would you like a function that tprints your quest table?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: tprint is in the lua folder of musch, so if you require "tprint" you can use it to print tables easily
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm a bit confused.  It should work when I take next quest, shouldn't it?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there are several useful files in there
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: what should work, what do you have in your plugin?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no because command line is not monitoring gmcp broadcast, or interpreting gmcp
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I even copied the function straight out of gmcphelper.lua and it still didn't work
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: yeah, it still doesn't let me get the data, even though I took a quest
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I guess I don't understand why I can get one piece of gmcp info from the command line but not the other *shrug*
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: because you dont have a call to OnPluginBroadcast
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i told you before i can write you a function, you can just paste it into a plugin and watch the output
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: then device what you want to do with it from there
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: decide*
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: where would I put this call to onpluginbroadcast?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: in a plugin, in the <[CDATA[
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: which is inside <script>
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how do I access it from the command line?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you cant.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: That doesn't make sense.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: OnPluginBroadcast is a function
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: What does that have to do with any of this?  The gmcphelper.lua has the function gmcp in it, and it does a callplugin on the gmcp handler
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: a globaslly defined function within the API
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: because that wont do what you want it to do
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: and thats what ive been trying to tell you this whole time
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: if you want to get and use gmcp data you HAVE to use OnPluginBroadcast
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Then why can I print some gmcp data from the command line?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: why cant you print the gmcp data you want?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's perfectly straightforward in cmud, and except for comm.quest, straightforward in mush
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's what I've been asking!
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: oh because you dont have a call to UnPluginBroadcast?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: and ive been giving you the answer, repeatedly.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I feel like we are not communicating effectively
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'll put up a tech note or something
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: thanks anyway though
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: we are not.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: only because you refuse to listen
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i am more than willing to help you
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you just need to listen to what i have to say
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: do this: type gmcpdebug 2
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: when youre bored of getting the spam, and maybe after youve realized that the spam seems different
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: then maybe youll understand why what i am saying is true
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: in cmud gmcp data is stored somewhere where you can just refer to it, in mush you need to have each plugin receive and remember when gmcp data is broadcast
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kobus nods at Redryn.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ive been preaching this for what seems like hours
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: though i guess the question is why doesn't gmcp helper just do that for us 
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: because the data would still be changed at various times?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: so what you want now may be different later?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i would have thought it's possible to have one gmcp plugin that keeps everything updated, and the gmcphelper helps to pull the most updated value from that central plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: instead of having the gmcp plugin broadcast, and having each plugin keep themselves updated
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ok what if you are looking for a comm update, but you only check for it every 5 minutes? then you only get every 5th minute channel message
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: could be 20 messages within 5 minutes, or more
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: but you only get the last one
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sometimes i only want to check something now and then
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: e.g. what room am i currently in
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but the current set up means the plugin will have to update info whenever i change rooms
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: as opposed to check what room am i in now
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: whenever gmcp info comes in*
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: well for what starling wants, which is quest data. it only comes when you request a quest or complete a quest and maybe possibly when you quest info
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: can confirm: not when you 'quest info'
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i changed my MUSHc font - anyone know what the default font is?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: how can I create clone a world in mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I mean plugins/settings/etc, not the name/server/port
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that was create/clone :)
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: My S&D window is trapped under the top of my mushclient, and I need a hint how to move.  I've tried restaring mush and resetting winds, also disabling and re-enably S&D.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: I think it is something like xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karlijn Tech: yeh! glad it worked, was not sure then
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: worked perfectly:)
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Did you "send to back" in front of your mushclient main window?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: so, you lovely wonderful mushclient gurus, I don't think I'm using bouncerecall and bounceportal correctly. can someone explain what I need to do to get this set up? I'm so confused. lol
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: It's all fixed now:)
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it was moved upward probably out of window
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: finger Starling and get updated S&D
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I haveher updated S&D.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: What does S&D provider anyway? Starling's readme just explains what's new
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: basically turn you into cp/gq bot
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: That's allowed?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: help gqbot
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is not fully automated bot though
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: not really a gq bot... you still have to type gq check, then xrt the area, then hunt trick the mob you need, then go there, all manually.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: right, it's fixed, but did you send it to back while it was over your main window?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: would like to know how you lost your S&D window, is all
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: is mushclient broken?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: asking for a friend
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: my blowtorch quits alot. my posersaver 
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: power saver says it shutsdown 30 times
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Bast, I got a debug of the end of the last GQ I did.. I won it, and still have "GQuest Available" in the miniwin_events, How should I send?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: its for other players to catch up
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: There were no other players, it's not in extended
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: Deak: you can win 3 gq each lvl, so it's normal to have 'GQ available' in your case
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Oh is that what it means
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: To me, I was taking it to mean "There's a GQ you can join in running right now", especially given it's RED background
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: but what if it's a BLUE background?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: I dont use bast gq miniwin, but that's how I interpret 'available' (in the cp one that's what it means...) IF it didnt understand your last gq ended it should show your last mob as if it was still to kill
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: anyway... not using it, so I could be wrong... both cp and quest miniwin are red when you can get one... that's, btw, the rewason I dont use the GQ one... dont add anything to my experience
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Ya, hmm... Maybe the miniwin is different when one is available for joining. I'll have to check it when next one pops for me.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: For testing, is it possible for me to run a plugins functions via command line? Something like \\\plugin.function() or something?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: what plugin isnt working if my auto hunt isnt working, and if I have been to the area it doesnt pop up as a clickable room?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you have been to that area before but have you also been to that room before?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: to me it sounds like either you autohunt plugin or your mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: yes, even autohunt from S&D isnt working
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ohh that thing. Sorry then.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: i have reinstalled all 3 packs
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Guess what?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: I made a blue screen program in C++.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Any pixels that are blue in hue are deleted :)
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: And its all in a small file, only 5.92 KB.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: That is, the source.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Compiled, it is 4.53 KB.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: is there a public potion tracker that isn't from Masaki?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: anyone built their own pc before?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sure
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: motherboRd type chip matchez
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: so, windows queztion
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: do i really have to drop 100 on a new license?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: 50 at shops
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: not if you already own it
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if it fails to authenticate just call MS
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: i have a win10 box i never use, can i just xfer that and does it have to be one i never use
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: I got it on kinguin pretty cheap, like $30
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: tell them you already had one but it wouldnt let you authenticate. you get 3 of those
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: doesnt matter. just call ms
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: cool, thanks crimz, does it matter, then, if 2 boxes same license are on the net at same time?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: no you can use the same licensing three time
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: i didnt plan to install an optical drive, is it easy to install via usb?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: they will give you a tag cor both. and if they say well thats corporate still shouldnt bother it
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: key should work on both computers
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: awesome thanks.  huilding a gaming pc :)  first build
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: i7 7700k, 16gb tridentz ram, evo ssd, asus gaming z270 board, 1080 ti, just waiting for my cpu cooler to arrive
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: and hoping i dont screw it up somehow
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's very easy to install via USB.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Faster, too.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: cool thank you.  have win10 from factory pc, will have to figure out how to copy it to usb
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Download the Windows bootable media creator.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/windows-usb-dvd-download-tool
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: cant wait to play 1080 at 144hz
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Aardwolf's gonna be fricking SWEET at 1080
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HEAVYMETAL Geji Tech: you can also try Rufus to make that bootable usb
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Rufus would require having the ISO
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Impurifan )  anyone gamed greater than 144 hz?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: i have a couple 144hz benq's, <3 them
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: i got an asus 144 hz monitor non gysnc 170 bucks.  but next step up to gsync or over 144hz is some dough
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: if your fps drops it can get ugly
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: hence the 1080 ti
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: with the high refresh rate
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: i should be overkilling 1080 by a huge margin on most games
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: what are you using for air flow to keep that 1080 cool?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: on air big case 200mm ins
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: thats the biggest issue i see with custom builds
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: card burns out in a year
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: gaming trio x seemed to have best air profile
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: i shouldnt need to oc for 1080!!
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: i always download this msi program to manually adjust onboard fan
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What games are you going to be playing?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: overwatch, pubg, whatever new shooters
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: csgo!
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: pleb
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: pubg squads is soooooo much better
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: feels like a ton of csgo players making the switch
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: shroud did, but the community is still solid
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: and the esports scene
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: ran into him not long ago
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: at higher elo hackers ruin pubg... medium elo is bliss
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: thing is some players have huge sound edge i dont get it
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: but a 144hz monitor will be great for those games
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: friend of mine hears footsteps at 50m, im at 25
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymous Anymouse Tech: friend has wall hacks
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anonymous Anymouse :P
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: nah even some streamers have noticeabky better sound range
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: really shit optimization, no idea how to handle a smash global hit
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: anyone know offhand which plugin uses the command xset?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: s&d
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: winkle
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: ah, it tries to use the command but fails to work
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: how can i get my S&D window back?
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: xset reset gui, if it jumped off the top of the screen
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: That is not a command. Type 'Commands' for a complete list.
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that is a bug and means your S&D is out of date, see the link in my whois/finger for the most recent version
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it might be xset gui reset
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: you made a typo?  xset reset gui should work
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ww help says:  > xset reset gui  - Will reset the X, Y and Z position of the Extender GUI
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: I am using 1.33
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: i had an error a couple of days ago that told me someting was out of date, didnt have a chance to upgrade and it stopped asking..
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I think you can reinstall the plugins and that should take care of it
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: i just did that, removed from plugin and restarted..
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: im gonna restart aard
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: brb :P
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: blah, everything else seems to be working but the window is gone
T3/r7/2017-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: reinstall the extender GUI plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: anyone know why a vi player with the aard mushclient and windows 7 is getting messages about missing lua 5.11
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 5.11 ? not 5.1 ?
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: he said 5.11
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: fresh install of the vi exe
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: confirmed it says lua 5.11 isn't there
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: isn't mushclient built with lua in it??
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I just downloaded zip version of vi (https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/unzip_upgrading.html) and it works just after unzipping
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean it speaks 
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I installed the exe version fine also
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: tell jazaren ahh we'll have to ask Fiendish
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think only reason that it does not work is either that mushclient was moved to other folder (without dlls) or that some software removed dlls (like antivir)
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: ahh maybe that's it
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now, if that preson is willing to share teamviewer session with you - you could easily verify that
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryltar Tech: how do i turn on the gmcp.group protocols?
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryltar Tech: anyone know where i could find maps for cmud?
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: You have to make them yourself
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: Does anyone know what part of the code makes the S&D plugin clickable?
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: HotSpot
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crunchy Granola Tech: oh okay. thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: err, unless you mean in the outputwindow.  WindowAddHotSpot is on the S&D GUI window
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the output window uses Hyperlink
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what does the gmcp field "room.area" do/contain and when does it show up?  Never heard of it before.
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm?
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's information about the area
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: for Aylor it contains { "id":"aylor", "name": "The Grand City of Aylor", "x": 30, "y": 20, "z": 0, "texture": "stones.png", "col": "", "flags": "quiet" }
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: some of those values are obvious
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: texture tells the mapper plugin which background texture image to display
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: x,y,z are continent coordinates for the area
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: flags and col are I dunno. apparently aylor is quiet?
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it sends when you request it
T3/r7/2017-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Leveling Wonder Tech: Anyone use Dull addon?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: why would it run me into that area?  it's all noport, it shouldn't be running me into there.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it tries probably recall from prosper
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: level lock to 300 exits to prosper from imaginarium
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: but those rooms don't even connect to anything, there is no way out from there
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's what I ended up doing, just locked all those exits to 300
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomcio Tech: hi, how can i make new window box/panel (ex. chat/map) in MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leandor Tech: it's prob not extremely easy
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomcio Tech: nice, but its not helping me
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it is not complicated at all. find a couple of plugins and exam them
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leandor Tech: i don't know how. but it invovles scripting
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: If I were you, I'd look through some existing code that does what you want and then try to examine them, It should indeed be relatively easy (just some function with a couple of parameters)
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: finger bast or mendaloth for the url to their stuff
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I don't have any mini-windows in public plugins.  But bast has a neat window helper plugin.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomcio Tech: ok. Secend question, Mush client is the best?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: it's best in my opinion, and most popular (see clients), but it's an opinion no 'best' :)
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomcio Tech: becouse i am newbie nad want create box for my note. I want have all box in one window.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tomcio Tech: chat, note, stat...
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: when reinstalling mush from scratch, what's the file to move over that has my mapper data?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i do that one and the mcl one under worlds
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: so it saves my triggers and aliases
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: thank you. that worked!
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: hey, is it possible to load in my client the search&destroy maps database from somewhere? i keep switching laptops/desktops and its getting annoying to build the database from scratch everytime
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: under the main mushclient folder there's an aardwolf database file
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lundfu Tech: I learned that about an hour ago for the same problem!
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: ok, i'll look into it tx
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: another option is to use something like dropbox and play from that folder
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the caveat to that is that you must close it on one computer before opening it on another computer
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i'm trying to avoid cloud solutions, don't like em
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thumb drive is good as well
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no cloud but just as synchronized
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and since that one's physical, it doesn't have that one caveat
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i'll look into that
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Anyone around willing to help me get sharptracker working correctly?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you using the one from hadar?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Yeah, I just installed it but I was told it needs work getting it to work correctly
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dethavin nudges you. 
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, I don't know of anything it needs...hadar fixed it to work with the newer bonus exp 123+12+12 messages
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dethavin peers intently at The God Thridi.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethavin Tech: Hmm any clue on how I get it to post increase in skills to my channel of choice? It's not posting that atm. Only thing I have seen it post so far is when I level
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: --> TICK <-- (All: 100%, Qt: 19, T: 1) << What is the T?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: tells
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: type replay
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: does anyone know how to setup a trigger in blowtorch to gag tags af
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Hmm, I wonder if there's a way to prevent child windows from being locked by the layout lock status. Used to be that way, but Fiendish made a change that locks everything. :\
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: ctrl alt del type explorer.exe in taskmanager
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: ... That's not even remotely relevant.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: reboots kid screen withoit the locks where you can use telnet
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: nvm
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yeah, not even in the same library, let alone the same page.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: test\ntest
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Err. Is there any way to echo more than one line
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: test<br>test
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: \\\Simulate("test\ntest")
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Better way, in my opinion.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Works wonderful. Thank you
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Actually, change that to Simulate("test\ntest\n")
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Need the final closing one to send a new line, otherwise it won't fire triggers.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, I'm trying to get the lastest and greatest bast... and I stupid?  How do I download all the files at once from github??
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: and=am
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: over to the middle right of the page
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to his page, click bastmush...then there's a green "Clone or download" link
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Clone or download
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: download zip
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thanks.  I'll look at his page see if I can find some instructions for installing them... some have to be installed before others but I forget which
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can download the zip from here: https://github.com/endavis/bastmush/releases
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you unzip it, and put the ENTIRE folder named "Bast" into your worlds\plugins folder
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then go to file -> plugins, and add the individual plugins you're interested in...it automatically handles dependencies...so for the cp window, just activate the miniwin one, don't need to activate the broadcast_cp one
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok.  do I need to shut down to move my logs folder over to this new installation?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Probably should.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, anytime you're moving "live" stuff, especially database stuff, you should have MUSHclient not running...that includes Bast's stuff in the logs folder and the aardwolf.db mapper file
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: there's only onr file in my old "logs" folder, an aardwolf chat log.  where are the bst logs?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, were you using any of bast's database-based stuff (eqdb or statdb)?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: nm, I was inthe new directory, not the old one.  ooopsie!
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: happens to the best of us
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: anyone familiar with running old DOS games on mac using an emulator? 
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: found eq.db, stats.db
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there ya go, that's them :-)
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, going link dead.. brb
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hopefully that worked.  now to install the plugins.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure you do copy rather than moves...then your original folder is always there as a "just in case"
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: too late.  :)
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: besides my old version was WAY WAY out of fate
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: date too
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shaelynne: should be able to just use wine for many of them...might need something like parallels or virtualbox for games which more-directly tie into Windows or the hardware
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: well i figured out how to download it, but I can't get it to save. 
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: three times in a row, when I try to install miniwin_stats the plugin window no longer lets me click on anyhtng and I have to force quit mush.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, does it let you type stuff?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: when it freezes?  no.  I can move the curse, change screens and back again, but I can't click close, or add or anything.  All I can do is force quit
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: and where are the wondows?  I think I have them installed, but the only window I have is windows
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ugh
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i have one small window with DB NOW, Show windows and Hide windows. thats it
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some of the windows only show after there's a "qualifying event"...like the campaign window won't show unless it sees you request a campaign or do a cp check
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: what about the ones that shows me mt stats and whatnot?  with the tabs like kills, and quests and cps?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and there are commands for each of the plugins which will let you change foreground/background-ness of the windows...check out http://abelinc.me/bastdocs, click the "+" in the left-hand sidebar for Bast's plugins, and click on a particular plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: * = space; ***********|****anyword****|******
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: How do I get "anyword"
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh bamboo?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: With regex. I'm dumb
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those *s, are they real *s or representing something else?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: They're spaces
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: cool, "events" window just popped up (quest timer is up)
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, got it now
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ... us, I've got two of them
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Tried.. ^\s*(\|)\s*(.*)\s$
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: The (.*) captures the spaces after anyword
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Actually captures everything
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are the | in fixed spots? what is it you're looking to capture? "           [|]    ([a-z]+)    [|]      "
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: The spaces are not uniform
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Could be any number of spaces, so I'm trying \s*
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you want \s+ right?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would capture the "anyword" in your exact example...ahh, OK, so I'd do " +[|] +([a-z]+) +[|] +"
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: \s+ is any number of spaces?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is some number of spaces, a pipe, some number of spaces, capture group of letters, some number of spaces, a pipe, some number of spaces...I didn't anchor anything, so you'd probably want to add ^ to the beginning and $ to the end
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: same as " +" i guess which i have never done before
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: \s+ same as " +" ?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plus is one or more of something
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Bamboo rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not quite the same, because it's "whitespace", not quite spaces...
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I personally explicitly define my characters...so I don't use "\w", etc. because different regex implementations define them differently
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: [a-z] doesn't seem to work
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: need the +...([a-z]+)
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are there just alphabetic characters in the word?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Err
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Got it to work. Thanks a ton!
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You cheer A Nimwit Bamboo on and wish him good luck!
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Does " +" mean any number of space, including no space?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: + means at least 1
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, * means zero or more, + means one or more, ? means zero or one
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but ? AFTER a * means "match as few as you can while still letting the entire line match", where it starts getting more interesting (non-greedy)
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a really nice website for learning regexp is http://www.regular-expressions.info...it looks like an 80s site, but the guy in charge of it has literally written the book on regular expressions (o'reilly musk shrew book)...he also writes my favorite text editor for Winderz, although it's a commercial one ($50)
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I find https://regexr.com/ helpful
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he goes into great detail in some of his real-world examples to show how something that appears to be straightforward can end up being a lot harder than you'd think to get a fully-accurate regex (check out his example on matching an email address)
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: as far as testing goes
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, the site I mentioned isn't an online tester, it's a reference site and tutorial
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I prefer https://regex101.com/ for testing.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Is there a way to highlight just the player name in channels? Like Zhalut tells you. You tell Zhalut blah ?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: a specific player, or all players?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: All players
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there isn't a pre-existing option for it
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the player who is making the channel communication (you in "You tell zhalut") is sent in a separate field in GMCP, so that part is pretty easy...the object (Zhalut in You tell Zhalut) would be more difficult
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can create a Highlight trigger for it, or use the #sub command in MUSH.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Fiendish actually made it quite easy to do that. #sub {(Zhalut)} {%1} #alone
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the problem with creating a highlight trigger is that you don't know who you're highlighting before you do it...
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: #sub {(Zhalut)} {@R%1} #alone
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if I read correctly, he wants EVERYONE, not just certain people...so you'd need a highlight trigger for evryone who exists or will exist
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless you make it dynamic using the GMCP channel player field
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Ah, yeah, I see.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Misread it as just wanting particular players.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Is there a method to use the trigger to omit and send a colourtell in place, that won't experience lag?
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: TriggerStyleRuns, sure.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, actually the entire comm log used to be written as a trigger to omit and use a colourtell in its place...
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although the latest incarnation tell the MUD to not even send the in-game output
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: But yeah, you can use TriggerStyleRuns to change what needs to be changed.
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd write a note or github comment to Fiendish asking for an option to highlight player names...as I said, it won't actually do the object player, but it would highlight the speaker easily
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I echo that field to myself to know which IMM is performing a restore
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Does anyone want a free 6 month subscription to CloudApp Pro?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: all of a sudden using eqdb plugin im getting trigger function "invmon" not found or had previous error, all my plugins keep randomly crashing for no reason...
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably not for no reason
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably because of a bug
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: whats the best course of action, everytime i use my alias for a portal i get that error
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you're seeing "not found or had previous error", the reason is always a previous error
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: you need to reload the plugin before it will work again
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when a plugin errors, it stops working
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: reloading the plugin will reset it until the next time
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: i attempted to reinstall it, but it continues
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i would try to work out why your portal is causing that error
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: idk its been fine since ive set it months ago, disabling, reinstalling and enabling seemed to work for now
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: thank you everyone!
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you get an error message again, try to catch what it says before it starts saying it had a previous error
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: I just copied my mush from my laptop, upon opening I'm getting this error
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: [WARNING] C:\Users\Mike\Documents\My Games\my games\Aardwolf-Mud-MUSHclientr1557\MUSHclient\worlds\Aardwolf.mcl
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Line    8: C:\Users\Mike\Documents\My Games\my games\Aardwolf-Mud-MUSHclientr1557\MUSHclient\worlds\constants.lua was not found. (Not loaded)
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: How'd you copy mushclient? Did you copy the whole folder, or just copy over your world file to an existing mushclient install?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Copied the entire folder
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: copied with mush closed?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Yes mush closed on both pc's
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: constants is in my worlds/plugins folder
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Is it in c:\users\Mike\Documents\My Games\my games\Aardwolf-Mud-MUSHclientr1557 though?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am on version r1946
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: type checkversion
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hi
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: r1557
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Metria, yes it is
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Metzli: can you open your world file in a text editor like Wordpad or Notepad
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Where would I find that? inside the worlds folder I do not see a worlds file
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Metzli: your world file is worlds\Aardwolf.mcl
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's Aardwolf.mcl
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sorry, I should have been specific
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: It's open in Notepad now
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you search for the word "constants", does it find that?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: No
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Wait yes, sorry
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Highlighted all and it found it
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what does it say?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that line
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: <include name="constants.lua" />
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: delete that line
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Save and reopen mush?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: quit mush first, then save
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: then reopen
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Ok, trying that, brb
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: That fixed it. Thanks a bunch Fiendish :) and to the others that helped as well
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: good, but just so you know, I have no idea how that line got there
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Haha well that makes two of us
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: tbh, it sounds like something I didn't even know was possible
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Metzli giggles.
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: I'm good at breaking things, always have been
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that line is something that often gets thrown into old plugins by default copy-pasted by people who don't know what they're doing yet or who aren't paying attention, but I've not seen it in a world file before
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: the plugin wizard puts that line into plugins also
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Maybe that was it
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but there's no wizard for un-plugining
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean, as far as I know
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: any idea what would cause my mushclient to contanstly go into a non responding state?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what are you doing when it happens 
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and what do you mean by "constantly"?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: just trying to type.  i think its just this is a terrible laptop
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: windows or linux or mac os?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: just normal stuff, its a crummy work pc im playing on cause when im using wine on my mac it kept like duplicating every file 
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: windows
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: im using the same mush file at work on a normal pc, i really just think this laptop blows, but i would think it would be ok to run mush, but every program lags now i think about it
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish meows happily and prances around.
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: What are the specs, I got a 8 year old laptop running Mush through wine and not getting the lag you're describing
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there are all kinds of reasons why a computer would have trouble running things. do you have any high CPU processes running?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: window 10 home, 6 gigs, 2.5 ghz amd.  they are crummy laptops we bought at work just to use the internet to log in customer
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: What at the top of task manager for CPU?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Set it to stay on top, and see what CPU/disk is like when you're encoutering the client lag
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: just sytem its no big deal
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok cool!
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Fiendish, is there a way to keep a particular window ulocked even with layout locked? In particular, a window from one of my own plugins...
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol what why
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Because I like having my layout locked, but a couple windows, I move around occasionally, and don't want the hassle of unlock, move, lock.
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: my mush uses 658MB of RAM and almost always less than 1% CPU
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: maybe your HDD is garbage?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: 658? hmm
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that ram seems very high
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah, I'm barely using 80 megs
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: crowley: the new version lets you save layout "sets"...would that work for your intended use?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: No, Abelinc, not really, because the location varies quite a bit on what I'm using at the moment.
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, figured it was worth a shot :P
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Or where I want to draw my focus, so I'd have to create multiple sets.
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dunno why https://www.dropbox.com/s/pbbdf1nt2x1upod/mush-ram.PNG?dl=0
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: is there any kind of plugin memory report?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have something of baswt's installed, you can type "plugins"
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: 3 gig in chrome? You got 300+ tabs open? ;p
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it has been open for 13 days
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no only 18 tabs across 2 windows
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: prolly some crappy scripting page
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: My mush is at 124MB right now. Heh.
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: pwar look for pairsbykeys
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: plugins show 74.7MB total, highest # is chat window at 30MB
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't think I've seen someone use secureCRT in years
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i use it for work so i ahem got a free copy.  was using it for log view on home server
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: a bunch of plugins dont show a # though, i wonder what needs to be in them to report?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Do alt-5 and see how big of a buffer you set up, at the bottom of that config window
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah its max 500k
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a function that the plugin needs to have defined
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i think thats max anyway
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the function getmemoryusage() definition you'll see in some plugins is what gets it to show values in the "plugins" output
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (and I only know that cuz I had a conversation with Fiendish about it last week)
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: easy enough, maybe i could add that to tprint since pretty much all plugins i have require that
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but i guess that'd throw an error for ones that already have the same func?
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Lua doesn't care if you redefine a function
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just copy that from existing plugins into other ones to see if that'll get them to show...put it at the bottom just before the closing ]]> 3 lines up
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well i added it to tprint and reloaded all of "my" plugins.  most are a couple hundred K only except a 6MB one that stores all my enchants
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: taskmgr still shows 668MB
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hehe restarted mush now its at 89MB
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: maybe just buffer?  dunno
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: styleruns are probably pretty large for what they are
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue is using 8.5MBs }:>
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Will Fetch eventually drop his staff again when killed if I already completed step 1? Killed him 5 times now ;p
T3/r7/2017-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: miss
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: is there any SQL expert who can help me with a Mapper SQL query?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: in bash's eq and eqsets plugin is there a way to 'refresh' an item after it's been enchanted (beside manually deleting it from the DB) ?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: Bast*
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: in Bast's eq and eqset plugin, is there any way to 'refresh' an item (for example to update it's stats after enchant) ?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Quick question: Can you save two different miniwindow layouts inside Mushclient without using two different world files? 
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes!
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Yes? How?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type 'aard layout help'
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: (My laptop has a much smaller screen than my regular comp, so the usual layout looks screwed up there)
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if that doesn't do anything, then you'll need to upgrade
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Wow, exactly the functionality I was looking for! I love it! Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish gives a thumbs-up to Shaleya.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: any screen reader users around?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Having trouble scrolling back accurately in main window (Windows 10). Is there a fix for this?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dupian Tech: Have you tried ctrl+up arrow?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: No, I have not. Can that be used while selecting text?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what happens why you try to select?  the window should pause right?  or does it keep scrolling?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: when selecting, as it goes past what was visible, it speeds up so I can't stop accurately.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: If you scroll mouse wheel, does it not switch to MORE mode?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: More appears in bottom right, next to Aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: It's just an issue since I bought a new Windows 10 computer (was using...Vista!). I'm a thinkpad user, and use a pointer stick rather than a mouse wheel.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: maybe a windows setting will affect it?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Page-Up key?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you missed Windows 7 in between which was much better than Win 10
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: MS tech support tried to fix it without success.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Page-up and CTRL-up arrow, should put you into the MORE mode
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: if it doesn't, might echeck the settings in Alt+5 on the right side
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: page-up and CTRL-up are okay for just scrolling back, but don't seem to work with selecting text
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Check if "auto pause" is checked and "unpause on send"
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: oh, hmm
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: she described the problem, its not that
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I guess I'd need to speak with a thinkpad user, who has suffered this issue.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sounds like sensitivity of the stick or whatever it is
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: The stick is fine until scrolling goes past what was originally visible.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: right it should speed up
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: plug in a wireless mouse
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but with a mouse its manageable
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: never mind =)
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: well, it speeds up too much, so I have to roll backwards then it just gets me back where I started.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: does it do that just in Mush, or also in a browser?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: options and click backspace
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I have trouble with the concept of "plugging in" a wireless mouse.  I have one, but it's paired with another computer.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: have you tried adjusting # of lines for mouse scroll?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: hmmm uplug and plug it back in. should download instanly
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I just test in Notepad++, and there's no problem there.  I've adjusted mouse scroll to one line.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: gulp sacra
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: damn .....fail
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: unplug what and plug back in?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: dont listen to him :p
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: This is an older version of MushClient.  I don't suppose the latest version has a scroll bar, does it?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it does, but you cant highlight/select and use it
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: scrollbar is far right,  not part of output window
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: ooooh, never noticed THAT scroll bar!
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that is THE one :p
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: A work around maybe... double click your starting word, then scroll, then Shift+click the ending word
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Thanks!  I can just select SHIFT when selecting and use the scroll bar...
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Sorry to trouble you, and thanks again.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Anyone use Microsoft Visual Studio Community?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: A bit, though almost certainly not enough to be helpful.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: So, how is it?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: same here
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: better than any previous version
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: more bloated than any previous version
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Ah. Does it lack anything?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: it has a 30gb kit. it better not be missing anything
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Im assuming theres a compiler for both 31 and 64 bit processors?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: sorry, *32*
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Cool.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: are you planning to develop MFC apps or something?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: No, just desktop apps.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I'm too old for this, it seems :)
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Ive been coding for a couple of years now, mostly in C++ but some in C.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: mfc IS (well, was) destop development for win.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: I have a friend who did binary for a while.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: what do you mean "binary"?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: He created switchboards
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I like binary, but base 10 is my favorite.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I program in base 10 for the most part.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: if they had microprocessors, and he didn't use an assembler, he was doing it wrong, imho.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: what do you mean by desktop apps, having eliminated mfc from the list?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Apps that run from a computer, not phones or .net based.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: hell, I can't check the list of components, this POS vs installer wants to update the WHOLE install just to open the "modify" panel
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mfc is just a library.  desktop apps can be in C, VB etc
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that's what I'm asking about above. if mfc is out, and code's not managed, what exactly do you use? direct win32 calls?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Yah.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Slowly, Libel Liber looks at Chevalier, chews his cud, and muh-OOOOs!
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber just totally 8failed Chevalier. Do they even have a shift key?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber goes ooOOooOOoo at Chevalier.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: you certainly can do that, with vs comunity.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: well, when this update finishes, if you want me to check a component or something, if it's available, I'll be glad to do it
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Are the programs generated by the VBCommunity compiler dependent on .net?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: if you mean vb.net, yes. I'm not even sure there's a VB outside of .NET (except for VB for Applications, in Office)
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Sorry, meant VStudio. :)
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: depends on the project type
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: for c/c++, not (I'm not sure if there's a managed c++ anymore?)
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: for c#/vb, certainly.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: for python... :)
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: actually, for python it depends. it supports both managed python and the 'usual' interpreter
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: why are you trying to avoid .net?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: but if you plan to do desktop apps, I'd really, really suggest going with .NET and Windows.Forms
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I mean, it's not like the win32 api is platform independent or something
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Ive been using Eclipse configured to C and C++, paired with the cross GCC compiler
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: you could use notepad++, and windows.forms would be easier to maintain :)
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: ok. update completed. you have: C++/CLI (that's managed code), vc++ 2015 and vc++ 2017 toolchains (both 32 and 64 bit both), vc++ for arm (32 and 64 bit)
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: also, mfc and atl (32 and 64 bit)
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: I cant wait till there are 128 bit processors...almost tempted to build one myself :)
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: there are 128 bit architectures defined. noone 'wired' them yet ;)
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Can I do something if a miniwindow has disappeared off the edge of my screen? I mean apart from restting everything?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: err
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I don't read
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Which miniwindow?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Ok, this is fine, though. It was Bast's tab bar. Anyway, I can reset and work from here, I guess.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: If you have the latest version of Mushclient, you can save 'sets', so instead of resetting all your windows, you can just load the set.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Learned that from Fiendish earlier. That's what I'm setting up on the laptop now.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: is there any way to mitigate spoofed phone number spam calls without blocking potentially real calls?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: !
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: in mu tasl manager it shows disk 100% it goes cpu memory disk network,  could this be why im getting not responding alot
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: that isn't a why. it is another symptom of something wrong. sort the list by disk and find the process eating it all up
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sure
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: now can insay it
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: go to task explorer.exe and stop it
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: top of the taskmanager go to newprocess and use explorermexe
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: explorer.exe and it shows the start up process
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: did he do it?
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: dont know it should speed up with basic programs
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there is precedent documented.  it is worth a try.  but perhaps you should explain what/why instead of just saying hey do this
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but hey, anyone who doesnt google why their disk is 100% doesnt deserve to get it fixed!
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: right. could be someone overclocked his disk
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: that would cause slowness
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you mean speedness
T3/r7/2017-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: at the first part.
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: what is the MUSHc command to note all aliases to the main window? I am trying to find a specific alias that i want to remove
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: is there a way to troubleshoot plugins to see which triggers are firing from different plugins ?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: how do i capture the gmcp room number in a lua script function ? I have the line require "gmcphelper"...
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i was looking at https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Using-GMCP#gmcp-how-to for an example but even the charater staus thing doesn't work
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: What's the script look like?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Just the simple myLevel example there?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: nm, i'll come back later
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: in an alias or trigger, if alias, you sending it to script?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: well if either one, needs to be "Send To: Script"
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: How do I get Mushclient to stop trying to open a deleted log file when it starts up?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when you say trying, do you mean it's printing an error message? or do you mean that it's making a new file?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish patiently twiddles his thumbs.
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Not making a new file...just says cannot open the log file, and then I close that window, and it proceeds with startup
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I tried logging to a new file, but that doesn't change the situation.
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: It's a new computer, and the path to the old file doesn't exists, or I'd just construct something there for it to open.
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, there are a couple of places I'd look to fix this
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: first I'd press ctrl+alt+G and look at the Logging tab to make sure that the default log files directory isn't something stupid
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (that's also File->Global Preferences)
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: then I'd do Alt+3 (or Game->Configure->Logging)
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: That looked fine...it wasn't the wierd directory that old file was in.
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and there I'd make sure that the "Automatically log to this" entry is either blank or something not stupid
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: OK! In game..configure...logging, it pointed to the old file path
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish holds his thumb up at nothing in particular.
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish gives a thumbs-up to Kylia.
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I just deleted that, and also deleted the option to log automatically...which I don't want to do, anyway.
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Should be fine now:)  Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: excellent
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: glad to help
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'll bet that you started logging at my advice when you were working on a goal...logging is great when you're doing goals, to be able to go back and see everything that a MOB said rather than just the hints that show up in "tasks here" :-)
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: I just upgraded to current version and every previous problem I had is fixed now! GMCP is actually easy now!
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i got a failed mapper db integrity check message
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: You on dropbox?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: anyone know name of the backup file to resurrect ?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: its in backups folder
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: no i quit that
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Restore the latest db into your root folder
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: would it be called Aardwolf.db.Backup_Automatic
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Yep
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: so just rename it to Aardwolf.db and place in root of mushclient folder ?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i'll quit, do it, and come back
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i replaced my mapper database with the backup version from last night when i had 4.93 but i am still getting the integrity fail message when mushclient opens (current version)
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: any suggestions ?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it may be integrity fail or maybe not
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should get some SQLlite explorer and verify integrity
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: recently Fiendish has found some error in check routine that incorretly reported integrity error
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: this is 5.06-pre - is there a version in between this and 4.93 that actually works so you can easily capture GMCP data ?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: download singular sqlite3explorer and open aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: singular sqlite3explorer ?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok, i'll try that. when i open it what do i do ?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is application that you can use to open sqlite databases (like aardwolf.db)
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: got it, but i am assuming i have to close mushclient so asking in advance what function in the app i run
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: close mush, copy db, start mush, continue the conversation :)
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: sounds like an idea, Liber :)
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no, you can open it with running mush
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: once you've opened it just execute: PRAGMA integrity_check
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it shows OK then it is ok
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you may also want execute PRAGMA wal_checkpoint(FULL);  before pragma integrity_check;
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway: download that sqlite explorer, run it, "open database", select aardwolf.db, open then just write those PRAGMA lines and click "execute"
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok so my mushclient keeps freezing.  i just opened up task manager and have it overlayyed on top like was recommended.  Under processes i have 4 columsn, CPU memory Disk and network.  Cpu goes from 10%-70% off and on, usually hoverying real low, memory is 55% disk is 100% and network is 0%  could this be causing the client to "not respond" often
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Disk is 100% in total, or specifically mush?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I think, the vast majority of MUSH stuff should be happening in RAM really, only i/o should be database related (mapper, stats, eqdb, etc) or chat logs and it's minimal i/o, should be anyway
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll want to go to the performance tab and click on resource monitor...there you can see what is making the disk thrash
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: which version of S&D is compatible with mushclient 5.06 R1947 ?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: How come this isn't tripping for me? ^Global Quest: Global quest \# (\d+) has been declared for levels (.*) to (.*)\.$  --> does \d need to be [0-9]?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Nevermind I know the reason
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Any questions or complaints about the dinv plugin?  Fire away! :)
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I don't have any questions or complaints, but I love the dinv plugin.
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'll take that too :)
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Ditto, really is a great plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kishoto Tech: and pokemon
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: whats the dinv?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Check out my whois for links to the plugin and docs.  It's an inventory manager plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Oh! I had a feature request
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It does lots of stuff, but the most popular feature appears to be the ability to automatically generate equipment sets based on your current stats
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: It's THE inventory manage plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Can you make ~worn work in queries?
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: wow dude, looks impressive
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: where do we get it
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: go to the 23rd page of the note, at the bottom
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, I should probably add "worn" and "~worn" to the queries.  I like that.
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You already have worn, sorta, it matches all your worn eq. I'd like to be able to do something like: dinv search type portal ~worn
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, I can see how that could be handy.  It's now on my wishlist.
T3/r7/2017-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Thank you :)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: anyone know how to do multiline triggers in blowtorch? even if it has to be done via plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: is there a non-portal version of mapper where?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I don't see an option for it. There's mapper walkto, but that takes you to the location, hmm.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea mapper walkto without actually going there is what i wanted
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I don't know why the use of a lock makes code reentrant. Reentrant code is never stepped on, code that uses a lock is serially reusable not reentrant.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: reentrant code requires that you buy memory for data each time the code is invoked while a serially reusable code just locks others out while stepping on the critical part of memory.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: just venting at something I am reading :)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: microsoft operating system weren't designed for reentrance :)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: but if the code only uses the stack then it can be reentrant because each time the code is invoked it gets a separate stack.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: Is there any plugin writers here? I want to ask about scoping
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: I have some lua files that I require from my plugin. But when I update the lua code and reload the plugin, lua code does not updates. How can I refresh the cache?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: did you reinstall the plugin?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: Yes. Still gives error like I did not fixed it.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: Does mush stores the variables that defined in plugins somewhere?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: did you try restarting?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: after removing and readding it still gives the error like I did not fixed it
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yes it does store the values umm not sure where
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: removed plugin and restarted the client. still lua code did not updated
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: are you sure you put the code in the right place? or wait and ask fiendish... he's the mushclient umm boffin
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: Yes I am sure. I copied the method of Bast. He has lua folder under his plugins. and copied the objectlua thing
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: When I change the code it cant update the lua file it seems
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: Oh It was my mistake. Sorry! I did a small misspel somewhere. that is why I was thinking it was not updating
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: any version of WinkleWinkle plugins work with new version of mudclient ?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: which version of mush ?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: 5.06
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: finger starling
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: finger starling
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i tried that, got error message on load
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: but don't get 1.3.4 thats a work in progress. 1.3.2 is the bets stable at the moment
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: at least thats my opninion
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: the one on the url was 1.3.3
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: 1.3.3 loads perfectly for me (mush 5.06 pre)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok, i'll try it again
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: i had some quirks with 1.3.3 but if its working its working
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: have you reported the 'quircks'?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: 1.3.3 sometimes needs an extra 'cp check', but was not able to identify 'when' that happens
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: yeah i spoke to Starling, he's working on 1.3.4
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: at least he was yesterday but gor fed up with it not working
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok, just tried it, i get load error: Line   42: Attribute name 'data-pjax-transient' not followed by '=' (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: 1.3.2?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: yeah, gonna download an try that
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: really curious... that's a generic xml error
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: 1.3.2 give same error on attempt load
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: Line   42: Attribute name 'data-pjax-transient' not followed by '=' (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: ok... how did you downlo9ad it ?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: save link
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: direct into folder
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: probably that's the problem
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: gimme 30 secs
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: ok... follow the link for the 1.3.3 release, then the green button 'clone or download', download the zip
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok done that part
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: now copy to plugins folder ?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: now you can unzip it wherever you like... I suggest or the plugin folder or a new subfolder there
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: then you go to plugin and add all 3 files
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: so far so good
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: nice :)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: I had no problems with 1.3.3, but if you have you can download the 1.3.2 (same procedure) that's absolutely stable
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok gonna quit client and come back
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: file/save qorkd details before you quit :)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: save world* details
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: hey KitCarson, thank you ! I just did a Xrunto and it worked fine
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: good :)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: still have the mapper database integirty check fail though
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: oh... dont think that's connected to S&D.... that neams your actual db is corrupted
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: no, not connected to S&D
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: only thing you can do is restore a previous backup of the db... while client is NOT running
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: tried that already
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: from the folder db_backups ?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: Trachx had a suggestion of using Sqlite explorer to fix, but i can't a copy for windows in the web
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: tryed even with the '_old' or '_older' ones ?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: well suppose i could try an older copy, yeah
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: lemme go offline and give that a shot
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: yep... that's an alternative... trying to fix it with the explorer....checking something
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: https://www.sqlite.org/ should have all you need to fix the db... didnt check it, though
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: http://sqlitebrowser.org/ has windows version
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: oh yeah... too many years since I last looked at sqlite... you have to compile it... oh
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: what daak said :) (thank daak)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok, this is weird, i did download from that website already, i chose the SQLiteDatabaseBrowserPortable.exe
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: is that one ok to use ?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i didn't know it was the same product
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: hmmmm... it doesnt seems to have an option to 'repair' the db... and I think there is NOT an easy way to repair it, or sqlite libs would have that implemented... 
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: brb
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: going afk for some time
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other than restoring from backups, the best way to recover from a databse integrity issue with sqlite is to do a dump to a .sql file, and then create a fresh database from the .sql file...kinda like fixing zmud back in the day
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: here's a walkthrough on doing that (change spiceworks_prod to aardwolf): https://community.spiceworks.com/how_to/1468-how-to-fix-corrupt-sqlite-database
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok, found out issue is not with aardwolf.db itself, removed one of my plugins, now Aardwolf is working fine
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does that other plugin have a db of its own? bast's eqdb and statdb both put db files into the logs folder
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: yeah it does
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: wow this dinv thing just failed epically
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: What happened?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: tons of fails and skipped ids
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley hasn't had any issues with it, but is well-versed in it to be able to at least investigate.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: What do you mean, tons of fails and skipped ids?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Are you getting any error messages?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: lemme redo
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: start with dinv reload, then do dinv refresh
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: (assuming you've already done a dinv build from before)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i need to clear out the old one
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i kept getting a ton of dinc fence skipping stuff like that
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok let me see what we an do here
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello hello
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered 
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: is there an echo in here
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hello hello
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: answered
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: answered
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: hello, all is good at present :) I am so glad of the new implementation of gmcp functions!
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: problems with a couple of older plugins, but will take it up with the author(s)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish smiles happily.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So with the FCC repealing Net Neutrality, I wonder how long it's going to be before we actually have to pay our ISPs to play Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: probs never, so low bandwidth it won't even register....be worried about netflix and music streaming
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: "Pay $13.99 for Netflix, but then pay $29.99 to your ISP to run Netflix!"
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: they've been doing tons of illegal stuff but unable to use it in anyway, here comes the wave...I hope your friends dont do drugs on your phone...
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: americans dont even know the difference between their country, britians law system and the US corporation....figures
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Speak for yourself, Zarra. Don't include all Americans, thank you.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: sry...most
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: uh
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: news flash, you already pay your ISP to play Aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: soon we can buy donations for faster aard connection!
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: I am working on a plugin and trying to catch the fighting mob name but at low levels mob dies even before gmcp updates. So is there a better way for this? Like a trigger?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I can hear my elderly neighbors talking to each other about net neutrality through the wall
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "If you want to have Facebook....you'll have to pay $2 more per month"
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Valour: only with a trigger, one hit kills never send the mob name by gmcp
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Why, I don't know
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: OHK doesn't send battle gmcp at all. :(
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's because there's no combat gmcp message. it's just character status.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Maybe because the time between initiating battle and death is less than the MUD's pulse rate?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: But death message always changes according to weapon damage type. Is there a list of messages somewhere?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: There are other triggers you can use to capture the mob name.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: like?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The sacrifice of the corpse, for one.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Far fewer triggers for that than trying to match each spell/damtype.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Trophy, skin, consume, sacrifice, and maybe a couple others.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: drinking blood on vampires also
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That's consume.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: I will try with that then
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: <-- is a vampire.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Don't know why I didn't emote that, but whatever, point across.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: Yes yes I am also vampire. I will try to catch that as trigger
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Anyone gettting pack loss right now going to mud?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You are.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Geting 30-40%  at algx.net
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Solid connection here.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: 0 packets lost so far
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: going from a digital ocean droplet, getting 70-75% loss on a Level3 hop
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: in Newark
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Heh, my internet died (Frontier CT), hotspot still works ;p
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: is it enabled?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: well you wouldnt want it disabled if you wanted it to work
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Anyone have Jacko's autohunt script or a similar one that they can send to me? Trying to rebuild my database from scratch, but I'd rather download that particular part than have to rewrite it from scratch.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: check to see if Atreides still has his website. He used to post a hunt script.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: Yuna, here is soemthing that you can use :) http://showcase.netins.net/web/wexl/Games/Aardwolf/readme.htm
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: look at the bottom of the page
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That was the page whose download link I was talking about. The download link leads to a dead domain.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: oh, I am sorry.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: actually, if you know how to script you can ask for the script for any client and just convert
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I am sure the script you want has been written for mush so someone here has it.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: probably as a plugin of some sort
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'd be fine with manually converting a script. I just need a script to start with.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: post a note on tech asking for the scripts you want, that way even those offline right now will know what you want.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do you trigger a macro in zMud? I've forgotten and can't seem to easily find the answer through Google. like, I want F4 to trigger F3 7 times.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Xaeris Tech: You're going to have a hard time finding a lot of zmud support, tbh. It's obsolete and dead.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Xaeris Tech: Almost 10 years.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But it looks so much better than Mushclient. I'm not a fan of the graphical interface of Mushclient. Is there a way to deactivate the bolding of the text?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}General Xaeris Tech: Play with it? :P
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: uhh, yea just change your font to not-bold
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Ugh. I guess I'll test out Mushclient again.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: send a note to danj
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do I set the font?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in what client?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: MUSH
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: this is blowing my mind, picking a client based on default font
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What's the MUSHclient's equivalent of a ^ for triggers? I.e. the marker that flags the trigger to only trigger if a text line starts with the trigger text?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it is: ^
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you need to check Regular Expression
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient patterns are not regular expressions by default until you check the box to make it so
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Alright, thanks. :)
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: A few MUSH questions: 1) What's the input command for triggering a macro in? Like, if I want F4 to triggfer F3 7 times, how do I do that? 2) Is there a way to make MUSH not automatically
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: the last line of text I typed in once I press enter unless I type in something else? Like in zMUD, if you type in "cast heal" and hit enter, you'd cast heal, but hitting enter again would cast heal again instead of necessitating you pressing up first to repeat the command.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: 3) Is there a way to make MUSh do what zMUD does when you press down (purging whatever you've typed into the command prompt)?
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Writing-Macros
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: As far as I can tell, that page does not tell me how to trigger a macro outside of actually hitting the button for it.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: for #2 Alt-0  ... check Auto-repeat command
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that should also solve #3 because when i press down arrow it gets rid of my typed text
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: unless its highlighted then i have to do down 2x
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yay. Thanks, Endymion.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Yuna: can you ask your macro question again? I think I didn't understand it.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Hmmm... that didn't seem to solve #3. It only works if I've trying to get rid of something after I've already pressed enter. I want a quick way to purge the prompt at any time.
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Yuna: down arrow will clear the input bar if you press it when the cursor is at the end of the line, or twice if the input is all highlighted
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: actually its kind of hit or miss... mine traverses history if possible
T3/r7/2017-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you go into keyboard settings, you can optionally enable Esc clears input
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: also, Traverse history checked but Arrow key recalls history seems to do the same with down arrow
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: also, Traverse history checked but Arrow key recalls history unchecked seems to do the same with down arrow
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but i like the Esc, thank you
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: Escobar?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: No
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Escape key
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: my bad :p
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yeah, I found those options today myself.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That doesn't work for me. Arrow Key Traverse History checked and Arrow Key recalls history unchecked only works if I hit enter first.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there is some inconsistent behavior i guess, but it did work for me at least once
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: like if i started typing after, it would delete, but if it was there already it didnt
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do I call upon a trigger, a variable and a macro in MUSH? Like, in zMUd, it'd be for variables. So if I wanted typed in, say, "dual ualwield", I'd wear whatever was the varaible dualwield was set to.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there's a script function GetVariable()
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Nick Gammon actually has a few nice videos online that walks through some basic stuff like using variables and triggers and aliases
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So the command in MUSH would be "dual GetVariable(dualwield)"? And for the others, it'd be GetAlias? GetMacro?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ah
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: theres different ways to do it really
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Wait, Yuna. Are you talking about how to reference variables in an alias? Or do you mean how to use variables in the input line?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: In aliases, macros, triggers.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Metria: can you help with this? I have to run for a bit
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Can try
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: In a trigger body, use what Fiendish said.  GetVariable("variablename")
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What about macro/alias? The same?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Also, what is the command to set a variable? SetVariable? Like, I want to set up so that whenever I type in "dual", anything that comes afterwards will be dual wielded AND set to the variable dualwield. What command should I type into the alias body?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Something like: Send ("dual %1") and SetVariable("dualwielded", %1) I'm guessing
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: SetVariable doesn't seem to do anything.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Google may have given me an answer. Off to test it.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nope. dual dagger | dual %1 / SetVariable("dualwielded", "%1") doesn't set dualwielded to dagger either.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: youre on zmud, only 8 people here use zmud
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: switch to mushclient and we can all help you
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No, I'm on MUSHClient. I switched today specifically because nobody uses zMUD.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: For the alias, name it dual *
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: sorry to stick in another question, but... about EnableTrigger("name", true|false), what is this 'name'?  is it Label, or Group?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: label
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: EnableTriggerGroup takes a group
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: so, label or group, either will work?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: o i c
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: thanks again
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: All adding an astrix after the name of the alias "dual" seems to have done is make SetVariable be sent to the MUD as a MUD command instead of the client as a MUSHClient command. I now get an "Unknown command. Please check the helpfiles." message after executing the command "dual %1".
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What do you have Send To set to?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: dual %1 / SetVariable("dualwielded", "%1") (where the slash is a line break)
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yes, but there's a dropdown box labeled "Send To", which needs to be set to "Script"
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Now I get an error window. "[string "Alias: "]:1: '=' expected near 'dagger"
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: also "dual %1" needs to be inside of a "Send()"
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Birdbrain Metria nods at Kash.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Placed "dual %1" inside of "Send()". Still getting the new error window.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: Send("dual %1")
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: SetVariable("dualwielded","%1")
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Alias: ^dual (.*?)$ | Send: Send("dual %1") / SetVariable("dualwielded","%1")
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Now I get "Sorry Yuna, I don't understand you." and "That is not a command. Type 'Commands' for a complete list."
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nvm. Forgot to set it to script again (had to delete the old one and make a new one).
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It finally works! Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: then you didnt select "Script" in under "Send to"
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Off to set up a bunch of aliases and variables now! Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: so i got that EnableTrigger("name", true|false) to work.  but if you put this trigger in a plug in, can it still be turned on and off?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes...but you'd need to either have that EnableTrigger be in the plugin, or you'd need to use EnableTriggerPlugin
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: so all 3, the trigger, enable, and disble, need to be in the same plug in.?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the entire point of plugins is that they are a full sandbox...one plugin can have a trigger named "Johnny", and that will not interfere with another plugin having a trigger named "Johnny"...so without using special "tell me what plugin you're messing with" stuff, nothing outside of a plugin has visibility or control over anything inside it
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Ok, so I've set up a bunch of variables and aliases. Now I need to call upon a variable. If I, for example, trigger the alias "testing", I want the input to be "wield -variable-". "Wield GetVariable("NameofVariable")" didn't work.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can actually use wield @varname...and check the checkbox for expand variables
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GetVariable() is a function, so you'd need to use the send to script option to use that...and in send to script, you'd also need to use Send(), so it'd be Send ("wield " .. GetVariable("varname"))
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: "wield ielded" returns the following error in a pop-up window: " "[string "Alias: "]:1: '=' expected near 'axe'"
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: "wield ~ielded" returns the following error in a pop-up window: " "[string "Alias: "]:1: '=' expected near 'axe'"
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's 3 "settings" that you'll really ever use in the send to drop-down...world (sends what's in the big box literally, with just %1-style and @varname-style substitution)...execute (pretends that you typed what's in the big box into the command line, including alias expansion)...and script (uses functions() and such)
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for wield @wielded, you'd use send to world
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Aah, ok. Thanks, again!
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Onto the next problem. I've set a trigger so that if the game sends me the message "QUEST: You have almost completed your QUEST!", I am to enter the commands "ent / qc", where qc is an alias for quest complete. I execute "ent" just fine, but then I execute the social qc instead of my alias qc. What is missing in my trigger body?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send to execute
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: see my "3 settings" comment in -h 10 for an explanation of when to use which send-to option
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So why do Triggers need Send to Execute while Aliases need Send to World?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yuna, that's not the case. You're misunderstanding what the send to is for.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not trigger vs alias...it's that you're not trying to send "qc" to the world...you want MUSHclient to parse it
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: if qc is an alis, it needs to be executed instead of being sent to the world since the mud doesnt know what "qc" is
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it were an aardwolf alias, then send to world would be appropriate...but being an alias, it's not something for "world"
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oooh, right. I get it now. Thanks again.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And now for the last part that I need (for now): What's the command for settings an alias? Like, I want to be able to create an alias, such as "atks", where if I type in "atks cookies", it will set the alias "fun" to cookies. Apparently, "SetAlias" wasn't it.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what a variable is for, not an alias...
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: You can't use an alias to set another alias?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's zero reason to
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Alright, thanks.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd use AddAlias(), but you're looking at your problem wrong...you shouldn't be changing your alias, you should be abstracting it
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: This creates a new problem for me: I've set the alias atkskill where anything I type afterwards will be set to the variable atkskill. I now want to be able to call upon the variable atkskill through the macro buttons F3 and F4 (once with F3 and 8 times with F4). However, tkskill does nothing.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That would be (at symbol)atkskill. What's the MUSHclient prefix for symbols you want displayed in Aardwolf instead of used for code?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: @ is an aard-side issue, not a MUSH issue...gotta double it
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the color code parser of aard eating the @s
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I know.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Anyway, so how do you call upon a variable if you just want to parse the variable as a command? Like, I've set ttackskill to Gouge. I want the macro F3 to just parse "Gouge" (or whatever I've set ttackskill to) upon pressing. ttackskill just gives me "Sorry, Yuna. You can't do that."
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (Or the other 2 Aard error messages)
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you'd just have an alias of single_atk that f3 calls, and an alias multi_atk that f3 calls...and both of those aliases will be sending @atkskill
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes (except F4 is the multi one).
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But in this case, we're using a variable. Because I want to be able to easily set the atkskill whenever I gain a new and better one. That's what the alias to set the variable is for.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, typo on that...so for multi_atk, you'd just have @atkskill<enter>@atkskill<enter>etc
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The problem is that @atkskill doesn't even work.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, which is why I said you don't need an alias to set an alias, you're using the alias to set a variable
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the single_atk and multi_atk aliases, did you check the "expand variables" checkbox?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with that expanded, then @atkskill will get expanded to be whatever that variable is currently set to, and then sent to the MUD
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes. Set to script and expand variables.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh, wait. Has to be set to execute. Now it works.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: you can have it set to script but you would have to have execute commands within the script
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to expand a variable it can be set to world
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So you only set to Script if you're making an alias or trigger that sets a variable (or trigger and alias, maybe?)?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You only set it to Script if you intend to use scripting functions. If you just want the text in the box to get sent to the world, set it to world.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you set to script if you're using functions()...that's a script
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you set to execute to CALL a MUSHclient alias
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you set to world for everything where you don't need either of those 2 things
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But it also works for calling a MUSHclient variable, apparently?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (execute)
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: execute is "world plus a bit smarter"...
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it'll work when it's not necessary
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: world means "send my contents"...execute means "pretend I typed this"
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so the contents of the alias are very similar for execute and world...but script is totally different because nothing will actually be sent to the MUD without it being within a Send() or Execute() function
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Alright. I think I've got it all now. Thanks for all the help. Off to rebuild the rest of my database from scratch.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Trying to create a trigger in MUSHclient that automatically sends "ivoted" whenever [*Time to VOTE*] appears on my log, but it's not trigering for some weird reason. Trigger: ^\[(.*?)Time to VOTE(.*?)\]$ / send: ivoted . I've tried both World and Execute. Regular expression.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: doesnt that come up at the beginning of your prompt? is so then you need it to end like this: \].+$
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: How does the line [*Time to VOTE]* appear in your log?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ivoted clear
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: What's the purpose of automatically sending it when it pops up, though? Why not just turn it off?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: if you mean prompt, ya you need to take off the $ or do .*$ or .+$
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Ah, there's a different suffix for when the line doesn't end with it?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ^ means start of line and $ means end of line.  if your time to vote isnt the whole line then it wont trigger
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I tried just removing the suffix as well and that didn't work. I'll try the other suffix.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: you're also using back references for the * which isn't necessary... ^\[\*Time to VOTE\*\] would suffice
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Or if it's in the middle of the prompt: \[\*Time to VOTE\*\]
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: That let's someone yes trigger your trigger though, so beware ;p
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: That let's someone yes trigger your trigger though, so beware ;p
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion's triggers go haywire as glitches are exploited!!
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Going back to \].+$ then. I don't want others being able to trigger my triggers. Had a troll deliberately have me drop and sac a trivia token once that way.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That doesn't prevent them from doing so.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: !tech test
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: To prevent others from doing so, you need to have it anchored, and do not start it with a "catch anything". Essentially, you need to make a regex for whatever is in front of the first [.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I thought ^ was enough?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Is the time to vote at the beginning of line?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes. At the very beginning of my prompt.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So if you have 1234/1234 hp [* <-- then you would need to do: ^\d+/\d+ hp \[\*
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Then us: ^\[\*Time to VOTE\*\]
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Okay, if it's at the very beginning, then yes, ^ will suffice.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You wouldn't need the .+$ after it.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The possible abuse of the trigger comes when you don't anchor it from the beginning, meaning that it can show up in the middle somewhere.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Next problem: Bast's autohunt script doesn't seem to open magical doors for some reason. Anyone who knows how to add t hat feature?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: mapper cexit open east;;east
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Sorry, didn't read the autohunt part, n/m
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: OK, so I want to make a trigger where there are 2 wildcards, and the 2nd wildcard will be what is set to a variable. trigger: ^\^You are certain that (.*?) is (.*?) from here | SetVariable("direction","%2") isn't working for some reason. What am I doing wrong?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Why the \^ at the beginning?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: -n 5
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Dunno. I had MUSH automatically convert to regex and that's what I got. Do I only need a ^?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: if you want to use regex, do it before you have anything in there.. 
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Removed ^\ and it works now. No clue why MUSh added an extra  ^\. Didn't even notice it 'til it was pointed out.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Trythis: ^You are certain that (.*?) is (.*?).*
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: the 2nd (.*?) isn't tripping because you made it lazy and didn't finish the rest of the phrase out
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It already works after I removed `\.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The reason why it added that is because you put regex in a field that wasn't regex, then clicked 'convert to regex'. If you start out using regex, then you need only tick the "Regular Expression" box on the side.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Mine actually won't do it, heh
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Ah, I must've added the ^ manually before hitting the convert button.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Don't forget that there are several other hunt messages you may want to trigger on based on your skill in hunting.  E.g., "You have no idea, You seem unable, You are confident, You are certain, No one in this area, You couldn't find a path", etc.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What are the messages that start appearing at 75% and up?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I don't recall if it is "You are confident ..." or "You are certain ..." but it is probably one of those
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Are you trying to workaround the door issue in Bast autohunt, via your own triggers?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: You considered using Starling's Search and Destroy?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what door issue?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is it an autohunt plugin?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Bast: Your autohunt script does not open magically closed/locked doors.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: it has several features, one of which is autohunt
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: magically closed/locked doors?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Sorry, locked/closed magical door.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Presumably doors that block even with pass door
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you mean doors you have to pick/knock?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It'll just keep autohunting and try to move in the target direction, straight into the door again and again. Yes, doors that block pass door.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: There is no attempt to open them.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (or well, the one. I've only been back 1 day and only run into 1 of these insofar while autohunting).
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which one? because it's suppose to open them.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Well, 2 of them now. In Kingdom of Ahner, in the what I assume are the dungeons.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: give me the room # the door is in and the direction
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Uh... how do I check the room number?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mapper thisroom
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: mapper thisroom
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: obviously if they're locked, you'll need the key for it to work, though. but yeah, it should auto open doors that are just closed, not locked.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: They're locked, but even if I have the key, nothing happens. So I'm guessing there are never any attempt made if the doors are locked?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: ('Cause all 3 are locked)
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and stop when it bouces to many times
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no, it should still try to unlock them
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: mapper thisroom does nothing. Do I have to use any prefixes? I'm still very new to MUSH
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if mapper thisroom does nothing, then you're not using the aardwolf mushclient package
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Alright. I'll install it now.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: my website
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yeah. I found it.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: finger fiendish for the latest version
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So can I just overwrite my MUSHclient folder's files with the Aardwolf Mushclient package?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: works fine for me if I have the key, although the message if you don't have the key is different than what it use to be. I'll have to update the script for that.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: just point the installer at your existing mushclient folder
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Anyway to export my triggers, aliases and variables? I assume the aardwolf.mcl file in the Aard Mush package will overwite and delete my vars/trigs/alis.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no it won't
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: not if you use the installer
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Alrighty
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: make a backup of the folder first, with the client closed
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: just in case
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because of that you'll have to load some plugins manually
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's weird. mapper thisroom still doesn't work O_o
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: You haven't ever had the mapper enabled, and you've probably explored a lot of the mud already?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes. I only been using Mushclient for 1 day.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Yuna: since you're starting from an empty world file, you need to load the mapper plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: aard_GMCP_mapper.xml?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: go ahead and look at the Featured Plugins list in the sidebar on https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Well, Bast seems to have gotten the coordinates anyway.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Well, Bast seems to have gotten the coordinates anyway.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: ??
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: ??
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I did, and I checked the locked doors, and my autohunt plugin automatically opened those doors if I had the key
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Bast seems to have gotten the coordinates anyway. It seems the mapper plugin has an alias for tech?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the mapper plugin does not have an alias for tech
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: ?!
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Testing
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: ??
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: ??
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what exactly are you testing?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: ??
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and can't you do this on gt instead of a public channel?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: ?!?!!?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Yuna: what are you doing?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: ?!
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Testing
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Phew. Finaly. Thanks, Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: next time test that kind of thing on gt 
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, like I said, look at the sidebar for Featured Plugins on https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Since you've started from an empty file, you won't have them loaded already like other people did
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: how do i fully remove plugins. I remove the bast plugins but now i see alot of such {affoff}444 etc msg when my spells go off or i recast them, or when i kill a mob
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: help tags
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: spelltags
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: and type "tags" by itself
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: ah, thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Use 'aard layout' to save them, see 'aard layout help'
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: I'm using mushclient and just connected my computer to an external display with higher resolution where it messed up the display with a bunch of overlapping windows and black border around the edges. Is there any way to fix this without closing and restarting the  game?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: You can try: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: then after use aard layout to switch, I do that, have a external monitor on my laptop and have 2 profiles
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I am unable to copy + paste from other programs into MUSHclient and vice versa. Does anyone know why this it? I'm pretty sure I used to be able to, but I suddenly can't now.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Does it work from the menus Edit -> Copy, Edit -> Paste?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: try doing it by using the context menu rather than ctrl+c and ctrl+v
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: or as Daak says
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Does it work from the menus Edit -> Copy, Edit -> Paste? Or via right-click? (Yuna was in a note)
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No. That does not work.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Neither through context menus or the Edit menu.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: What OS?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Windows 10
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I have a  problem with mush copy/paste also, I disabled it. It may be the case that it is disabled for you. goto the OUTPUT config dialog and make sure that the option is not unchecked.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Sometimes copy/paste gets stuck for me too.  Normally it starts working for me if I restart mush.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: the options is 'Copy Selection to Clipboard'
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It was unchecked. Checked it. Still not working.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: well, it is possible that you have the same problem we have.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Probably a plugin screwing it up. Ugh. Pretty sure I didn't have this problem yesterday.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Restart mush.  Sometimes that "fixes" the problem for me.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: it could be
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Would be surprised if a plugin impacted PASTE, can you copy from an app outsid mush and paste in via menu/context?
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: normally I just use the context menu to copy/paste and it works for me.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: also ctrl+D and ctrl+C work.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: as long as I have the option to the clipboard disabled.
T3/r7/2017-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No.slee
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: so net neutrality is dead?  what does that mean now?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that you need to elect a better president? :)
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: please deposit 4.50 USD for the answer.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: the states elect the president :)
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: it's a republic, remember?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: if it was so easy to remove the "obama law", would it be easy to just add it back when the next pro net neutrality person assumes the presidency?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: not possible
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: no, there was no obama law, it was a fcc ruling, which has ben rescinded. What they need to do is legislate the neutrality.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: I liked the fcc ruling better because it's a more flexible medium.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: if congress passes a neutrality act, it's going to be 782 pages in pig latin.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: does the president appoint the FCC bosses? So then it would need to be a pro president and sentate to confirm a pro chairman?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: that's another story, Zhalut.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: seems pretty ninny for any 1 president to totally reverse everything the previous did. it's like a potential seasaw every 4 or 8 year
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: maybe this is a debate channel? :/
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: you can have a federal republic or a simple republic, they both operate the same way. The difference is how much autonomy do the landowners have.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: they are all republics, there are no democracies. Not even in ancient Athens :)
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: did this convo move to another pub channel?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: some ppl still talking about it in imm
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It still partially obscures the bottom of the log. Which is a bit annoying.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The bar cannot be taken out outside of the Aardwolf main window.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I cannot place any of the plugin pop-up windows in MUSHclient outside of the Aardwolf World window (i.e. the "chat log", the one where all the text appears) and apparently you're supposed to be able to do that. I'm on Windows 10.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: No, you can't move the plugin windows outside of the main client window.  You move them around *inside* of that window
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Not the main client window, the Aardwolf log window inside of the main client window.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The plugin windows are all tethered to the Aardwolf log window, no matter how I resize the log window.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: If I try to drag the Mapper window outside of it, it'll go out of bounds and be partially invisible (anything not "inside" of the Aardwolf window). If I try to move the health/mana/moves/etc. bar window, it'll stick to the bottom of the Aardwolf window (right above the input prompt) and the mouse pointer becomes a red circle with a slash going through it.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: So what happens when you resize your main window as small as it will go, do all the miniwindows dissapear?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Possibly relevant: The aardwolf worlds log window does not even have the triangular button at the bottom right corner (I can still resize it).
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: yeah that is really interesting. sounds like your stuff is all jacked up
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: can you dropbox some screenshots?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: including your ctrl shit p
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Are any of you on Windows 10?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: I'm on Gnome
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: https://imgur.com/a/uliwS
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Not captured because screen capture can't capture the mouse: The red circle with a slash going through it in the 2nd pic while I'm trying to drap the health bar window out of bounds
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Tried running as admin. No changes.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I... I think I know what's wrong. There's supposed to be a way to resize the Aardwolf log inside of the Aardwolf worlds window. I don't have that.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: I'm on Gnomewak
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Should be able to resize log window from bottom right hand corner
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: opps
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nope. Bottom right corner resizes the entire Aardwolf window. And bottom right corner right above prompt, where the buttom to resize the main Aardwolf window seems to supposed to be, does nothing because it lacks the triangle needed
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: have you dragged the bottom of the mini-window below your prompt?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Is your window too small to display the entire miniwindow inside?  Do you need to scroll down to the bottom so that you can see the bottom of your mini-window?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What mini-window?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The health bar?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Or mapper?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: the one you're trying to resize
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: You mean the main chat window? No way to drag it below the prompt. No way to drag it all.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: if you grab the top of the main window you can try moving it
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: is the layout locked?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: maybe part of your window is missing. think that's what durel is getting at
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: aard layout unlock
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If the bottom of the window you want to resize is off-screen below the prompt then you would need to scroll it up so that you can get to the bottom
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I can move only the main Aardwolf Worlds window.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I don't know what you mean by locked layout.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: there's a way to lock the windows so they can't be moved accidentally, the command is aard layout lock/unlock
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And where would you input that command?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: the prompt
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: input
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No, that just sends it to the MUD. There needs to be some code before it to make sure it's the client that receives the command.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: if that doesn't work then you are missing something
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: it works fine for me
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Just inputting "aard layout lock/unlock" gets me.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: if i type aard layout lock, it returns Current layout lock status: LOCKED 
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: "There is no layout within Aardwolf".
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: You may be running a plugin I don't have.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cap'n Gus Grimvald boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: do you have an alias called 'aard' ?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No. I don't understand why you think this is supposed to work normally. Anything you input into the prompt is automatically sent to Aardwolf, not the client. It is ONLY sent to the client if you have an alias for it or prefix the text with symbols that will tell MUSH to execute it as a script and not to send it to Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: YOU are probably running an alias (or a plugin that runs an alias) for the command "aard".
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: unless a plugin has it as an alias
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: for example typing mapper help all
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: gets your the help doc for the gmcp mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Found it. It was called Aard_Layout.xml
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Problem solved.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: cool
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks, guys. Running aardwolf_layout.xml added the triangular button to the main Aardwolf window (and even automatically resized it to half the screen size).
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: you installed it right? really curious how it was disabled or not installed to begin with
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: i recall all those plugins being active upon installation
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yuna started with standard mush, not aardclient
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: so didn't have any of the normal pluins automatically installed
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: anyone getting didsconnect alot?  my mush is closing saying aardwoldf server shut down connection
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dawsey Tech: I haven't either. I restarted mush client and it crashed on me, but that's as much of a disconnect I've had.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No, I started with Aardclient. It just doesn't automatically load the layout plugin.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The plugin was in the plugins folder, but relatively few plugins were auto-loaded on installation. I had to manually add the Mapper and Health Bar plugins too, for instance.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: within the aardwolf mush client is it possible to swap an output color with another?  dark blue text gives me headaches :/
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: There's a setting called Custom Colour. No idea what it does, but it sounds like what you want. Try experimenting with it?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: aight, i'll give it a go
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yuna: you did NOT start with the aardclient...you then tried to migrate to the aardclient...
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: almost all of your issues have been because of that very fact
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the other day, you ran the aardclient's installer on your other MUSHclient folder...however, that isn't the same as installing and starting with the aardclient...the main difference being that the installer is meant to not mess with a pre-existing Aardwolf.mcl file, which is what contains the aliases/triggers/AND-LIST-OF-PLUGINS that you have previously defined
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you never turned on most of the "default everybody-gets-them-on" plugins which define the Aardmush experience
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So if you install it clean, all plugins are loaded by default?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yes, but you'll need to reinstall any of your existing plugins.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not all, but all of the standard ones...there are a few in the plugins folder not installed by design
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you'd get 2 aliases which you'd love as a zmud user...#alias and #trigger ;-)
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Do you know why I can't C+P into Mush and out of mush? I can C+P things in mush. Also, sometimes, I can't even copy because I'll get an error message if I try to highlight. And hyperlinks don't work either.,
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Abelinc, could you PM me a list of the standard plugins (their file names) so I can load them?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's all part of the same issue...not a fully-real aardMUSH
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://abelinc.me/mclfile
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But I could c+p just fine in normal Mush.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, but aardmush doesn't use normal mush's MUD output area
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I assume it's the list of plugins at the very bottom of that page?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's effectively another miniwindow (although technically it's a special window type)
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that page is the difference between what you're running and what ships in a new install
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh, I see.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But I should just load all of the plugins listed at the bottom?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Basically, yes, but make sure the paths are relevant to your system.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd personally go the other way and do a real full install and move over your 3 days worth of changes
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I don't understand what "paths are relevant to your system" means.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: especially since you can copy/paste in all of the aliases, triggers, etc. as a whole
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Save your MCL file in a different location so you can import from it.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: OK... I might do that. And no, I can't C+P, since I'm running a bootleg version now that can't C+P, remember?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're all just xml file names, no paths, because they're all in the worlds\plugins folder
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I just wish there was a way to export and import triggers, aliases and variables.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you can c&p this stuff
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are MANY ways to...have you even glanced at the window that you make triggers & stuff in?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nope. C+P:ing does not work in the menus either. Just checked.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What are you talking about? That's how I made my triggers.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to game -> configure -> triggers...highlight all of them...click the "Copy" button...open up Notepad...paste...look at the notepad
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that the notepad window would look pretty much identical to opening up your world\Aardwolf.mcl file in notepad and scrolling to the <triggers> section...another way that you can copy them
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: similarly, click the "Save..." button on that page...note that it asks what file you want to save them to
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "Load..." button on that page would ask for a similar file
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I can't even highlight more than 1 trigger. And clicking the Copy button DOES NOTHING except copy it in a way that works for pasting it inside of the bootleg MUSH client.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How many times must I say that? I can c+p stuff INSIDE the bootleg MUSH client. If I C+P (and don't get an error message when the client wants to act up) this very sentence. I can past it just fine... into this bootleg MUSH client. And NOTHING else.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I have to run now. Thanks for the help, bye.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's nothing bootleg about the client...fiendish doesn't touch the source code or compile MUSHclient...he downloads a vanilla MUSHclient and just makes "settings" changes (add plugins, set fonts, etc.)...and no settings changes would impact the clipboard of your operating system...
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Fiendish do compile code (experimental one) I think
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he gets Gammon to make changes
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: saying Fiendish just "makes settings changes" to Mushclient is like saying I just "make settings changes to 'C'"
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: forum mudinfo, note read 1750: I'm just trying to get rid of the stupid local msvcr100.dll ' suggested that Fiendish do those changes himself
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those settings changes are immense, but they ARE just settings/configuration changes...he's not changing the program...a run-a-whole-business Excel file is still just an Excel file
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: hi any cellphone expert here?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Better to ask your question.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I use mine a lot. Does that make me an expert?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: (in other words, what are you needing, specifically)?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: so this phone got 1000mah battery. can i buy like 4000 and it will work in same phone?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, if it fit the phone, sure.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a battery is very specific to the exact phone
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: But it'd have to actually fit your phone. :p
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: what about volts amps
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: someone would have to manufacture a 4000mah battery specifically for that phone which fits and has the same properties
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: do you have the origional battery
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: just dead?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: batteries nowadays have electronics that the phone would need to recognize...it's not just the electrical specs
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: no its a new 3.5 inch boost mobile phone
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I don't know about swapping out batteries for the phone itself, but I know a lot of people who get these phone cases that have uber tons of battery power. enough to chargeyour phone like 5 times before the case needs charging etc.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tbh, go to amazon.com, google "battery <your phone model> battery"
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err except battery only once
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Byrnatha.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jikaimp Tech: ty all
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can get rechargable "power packs" at 5 below
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Abelinc, I called it bootlet as in MY version, the one that's misbehaving and clearly not working as intended.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: In good news (for me), the Save function for Triggers and Aliases seems to be working.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nvm. It's not working. Ugh. I hate to transcribe everything from scratch.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I use logging in mushclient, however there are quite a lot things that seems not worth logging - especially fights and running
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: any idea how to skip those parts? that should be customizable - as for some fights like epic runs I want to log everything, also when I am in new area trying to solve goal - then I want to log everything
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I can't seem to completely uninstall Aardwolf Mushclient Package. Even if I do a full uninstall, on a reinstall, my triggers, aliases, variables and other settings are retained.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Including all of the glitches my "dirty" install a few days ago brought with it.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Well, I finally managed to get a clean install, by installing the package in a different location. Still can't C+P into MUSHclient or out of MUSHclient, though, for some reason. Or click on hyperlinks.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Installing from scratch seems to have broken Bast's autohunt plugin. The command autohunt no longer works. Anyone know how to fix this?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: did you install the plugin in your fresh install?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: There's no longer an alias for autohunt.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you're sure what you installed has autohunt?  personally i use winklewinkle s&d which has autohunt
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It's bast's bast_hunt.xml plugin.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I could try winklewinkle's Search & Destroy.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: alias should be: ha mobname
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Aah, ha works. Weird, before this, I'm pretty sure autohunt worked. I certainly didn't create an alias for autohunt to become ha as I copy + pasted my aliases over wholesale.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i looked in the plugin, only 2 aliases.. ha and ht
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It's a mystery for the ages. Because I C+P:ed all of my aliases over. Maybe the old version I was using had autohunt as an alias? Because I downloaded a new version just now.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: maybe you did a #alias command, which wouldn't be a regular 'alias' in the world file?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh wait sorry, that does add it to the aliases :p
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: In Mushclient, where's the setting to make whatever you type into input stay after you press enter? I can't seem to find it again.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Alt-0
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Auto repeat command
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is under alt-0
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: my prompt keep disapearing after few seconds of inactivity or new lines until I type something, is it possible to prevent that by locking it down or something?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it change to "Idle"?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: it just disappear, i suposed it turns to idle yea
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the prompt is normally only shown when you type something
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you want to see it all the time, you might want to make a trigger to capture it and put it in your status line or something.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: can't be locked down to be shown all the time?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you're not here and typing things, why do you need to constantly see your prompt anyway?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i am here and typing things, but it keeps appear and disappear all the time, its annoying for me
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: disappear?  its a scrolling screen
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: For me it shows up every time I type a command.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: everytime i get a new line output the promot disappear, if i type something it appears again, and so on
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maybe you can screenshot of what you see when you say it disappears
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: What he means if it doesn't redraw the prompt and if doesn't do anything, which is true and by design
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cuz when a new line comes from the MUD, the existing prompt should just move up about a quarter inch (as the next-higher line)
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: 1. prompt visible:  https://imgur.com/a/lmc9G
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: 2. aaand gone : https://imgur.com/a/mY754
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Because you didn't type anything and are inactive
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i'd like to have it always like in the first pic, is it possible?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You just have to hit 'enter' and it'll refresh
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it's not a "prompt" in the sense that you type at it
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it IS like in the first pic...I see the prompt in the second pic...just under the comm log
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: like your 2nd pic the prompt is up at the top due to scrolling
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's not disappearing at all
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: so its a scrolling problem then? can be scroll locked down at bottom then?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I think you are asking if the prompt can be duplicated and displayed after every line output by the mud.  Is that really what you want?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you wouldn't see anything new
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: your "prompt" is mud output
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: all i want is to have the prompt visible all the time, but if i can't oh well :)
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: you could do a Timer to press enter every so often ;p
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: nasty
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is working as designed, which is, every time you send something to the MUD, the MUD sends you a prompt as regular MUD output...what exactly about the prompt are you interested in? you have the *information* from the prompt in your status
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can have the prompt visible at all times, but you have to create a window for it and place it at the bottom. Or put it in your infobar. Or create a trigger in general.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: You could acheive it via a mini-window
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: he doesn't understand why his prompt is scrolling, so yeah maybe he can create a plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: but if i put it in a mini window it will be duplicated everytime i type something right?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the status bars are already there as a miniwindow, with the prompt information...
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it would be replaced, not duplicated
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: But not ALL information is displayed in the status.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: alright
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, depends on your prompt settings, I suppose.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try right-clicking the health bars and changing them to text mode
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: oh nice, that works
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all the prompt information that makes any difference to a player not typing stuff to the MUD anyway :P
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: thanks for help :)
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the health bars will work for your purpose?
T3/r7/2017-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: yep, its good enough :)
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: what is the trick to capturing a line from the MUD and then being able to echo it using the same colors?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: guess noone :) How about this one. anyone know how to map the ctrl to the command key in Mac/Wine? I wanna use command to copy instead of ctrl
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: isnt that usually the windows key?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: idk i dont do mac/pc mixing :(
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: exactly, we have a ctrl key but the command is 1.5x larger and used more frequently
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea you dont have an alt key right?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: but you have that 4-square button (command key)
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: again, you are correct. but we can't use the command key inside MUSH/wine
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: not at all? thats interesting...
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: have you looked at http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/winekeymap.html
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: well, the command key is used when accessing the file menu. i suspect it is a wine, not a mush thing
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: well if your command key opens the file menu its probably mapped to "Alt"
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i did see that webpage. seems dangerous for me to use coz i dont understand it :/
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: heh, want me to look at the keyboard.c file for you?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: aha, ok. it makes more sense knowing those are the subs
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: hmm. i cannot find the keyboard.c file but i do see xmodmap
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: oh the first link is a compiled .so
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: id try that xmodmap change first
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: idk this all seems like really old info
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: im not sure Xmodmap is even used these days
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you do know os X is freebsd 5.4 iirc
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I did not know it is freebsd. Idk much about unix/linux. I use mac as a normal user
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=7545 <- saw this?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I have X11 folders but not not an exe/app. weird
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i feel like many Mac users would want this. Seems so hard to change
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: I followed the instructions from the wine page you shared and it didn't change anything. It looks like xQuartz is a sub for x11. But when I closed X11, it said it would also close any quartz programs. it didn't close wine
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i will keep searching uncle google. thx for the tips/research
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i found a ghetto workaround. In Mac, I just inverted control and command. I will have to write a script to switch the keys on/off if MUSH is open but it works for me
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jexebelle Tech: Anyone knows a bit about bitcoin mining and have 2 min to answer some questions?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: bamboo, going to watch it in 1 hour
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: miss
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snooky Tech: What are you going to watch?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: I am not able to see powerup info, and I have it turned on, and I have info turned on. Could there be something gaging it ?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: gagging...
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: there is a nospam to turn it off in epic areas that's all i can think of
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: maybe I'm just thinking of deaths I think I'm wrong
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I've lost the tick timer from my status bar and can't remember how to get it back.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: okay, got it back
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there any way in MUSHclient to create an if-clause? As in "if Variable xample is yes, then trigger alias doit, if variable example is xample2, then trigger alias dontdoit".
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Very much so.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: if GetVariable("example") == "yes" then Execute("doit") elseif GetVariable("example") == "example2" then Execute("dontdoit") end
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That the actual code? And on a single row?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's what you would use, unless you're using Lua variables. Make sure that your trigger is set to Send to Script, though.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: As far as single line, doesn't make a difference, really. You can do "if this then" on one line, the command on the next, "elseif this then" on the third line, next line another command, and then "end" on the last line.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you should really check out the mushclient website, there is so much useful info.  http://mushclient.com/scripting
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that page has some basic stuff on it, but you can browse functions, search for terms etc.  you can do almost anything you could think of in mushclient
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The alias doesn't work. I seem to be missing something. I've tried both send to execute and script.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: did you substitute relevant info for the example?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: show please
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nvm. I was missing a d on end. It works now. Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You're welcome.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Hmmm, is there some reason the bast spellup plugin would stop autorecasting spells when I'm idle for to long?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Spellup spells that is.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: are you going into idle mode?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Something gets pending because it doesn't cast, so it breaks, in my experience.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Doesn't cast not as in failed, though.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Like navi's mental balance, it doesn't cast if the int/wis are relatively the same.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Not hitting idle mode no, the spellup recasts should prevent that.
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Not a huge issue, I just tend to not notice my spellup isn't active and try to run speedwalks without levitation on. :P
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: In Ruins of diamond reach, my portal location is between time and space, is there a way to map the exits in the mapper where the room exits are random?
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no there is no way to map random exits, because its random
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: ok. thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: basically if the exits show as -1 and they are random, then you won't be able to map them at all.  because which room it leads to is random and changes every repop
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: areas like astral that have random directions but defined rooms you can make a work around
T3/r7/2017-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: if i have defined rooms, how would i map them?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What do bast's broadcast plugins for MUSH do?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: sends different messages between the plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Messages where? I just assumed they'd send me pop-up messages, but it doesn't appear to be so.
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: in OnPluginBroadcast function you can catch this message and do with them what you want
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: at the begin of each one of bast's broadcasters there are examples on how to use them
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: how to resize the S&D GUI window? ( i dont get the drag pointer when i move the mouse to the bottom-right corner )
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: which verson is your S&D? 
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: i may be wrong, but the starling version you can resize
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i think its the latest one from github
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: finger starling and download that version
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i can move the window around but can't resize it, ok will do
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: should work, cos i am using it
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zinji nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: which version should i get? 1.3.3 or 1.3.4?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: i am using 1.3.3 and it has the resize option
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: ok, i'll try that one
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: i think you should get 1.3.4 which is the latest
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snooky Tech: MUSH
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i've insta
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: so i've installed the 1.3.3. s&d plugins (extender_gui , mapper_extender and search_destroy) but my main map window is gone, any idea why? all 3 plugins are installed and enabled 
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you could try aardreset but it will destroy your layout. it couldbe resetaard, been a whilesince i used it
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: ok ty
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: whats the command to reset the layout again
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: just did, map still not showing up
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: the ASCII or other one
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: the ASCII map
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i can see it on the main client window when i walk around
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: automap and tags map on?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: but i need it in a separate window
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: yes, both on
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: tried reinstalling the plugin?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i'll do that now
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i had to reinstall the whole mushclient, but now the plugins are working, another question, where is the mapper database to move it to my new client?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: Aardwolf.db in the root folder
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: great, ty!
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: since i've installed the client again and moved the database i have a small delay between input and output, like half a second on every command, any tip how to fix it?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shindo Tech: you did move it while mushclient was closed?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i think so
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: hey guys! So the minwin scripts seems to write some X, Y ccordinates in the states files at ..\worlds\plugins\state. Even though I override those values, or delete the line, on the next plugin reload it gets overriden with the same values which positiones the window on the right upper corner. It can be moved but it's always under another window. How can I make it stay at some other coordinates?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which plugin is ^ about?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: hi Fiendish. It's Aardwolf_Consider_Window.xml
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zexe: have you tried moving the window where you want, and then going to file -> save world details?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: Hi Abe. Yes, sure I did. Every time I move it where I want and press save and close the client it would pop right behind my Communication Log window on the top right corner.
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: my mapper ninja plugin stopped working after I installed the last version of the client, all the other plugins are working except m.ninja, any idea why?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: is there a way to set an area start room with the mapper?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: not with some extra plugins
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can make an alias inside of AardMUSH.
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: or that
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: ok thx gys
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Do 'mapper thisroom' for the room you want to use, then set your alias to 'mapper goto <roomid>'
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: What's the string to make aliases from the command line in mush?
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: zmud it was #alias {xx} {xx}
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: #alias {alias} {command} -- use ;; to escape lines
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Ah so the same, thanks :)
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Zexe - just know that your first room alias will not work with "xrt area" if you use winklewinkle
T3/r7/2017-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Basic slot track plugin, not frills yet: https://pastebin.com/Y8rM1wWE
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i have problems with the S&D plugin, when i take a new campaign it loads only 1 mob in the S&D window, any suggestions how to fix it? ( happend twice so far - last 2 campaign requested)
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: Does anyone have a trigger match to catch the killed mob?
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what do you mean?
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: I want to get the name of mob which is killed. But GMCP is not fast enough to get the name of the mob which killed in one hit
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: There is too many death messages of the mobs so I wondered if anyone have did something like that before
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Maybe 'lastkill 1' triggered off the experience gain message
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: It's clunky, but unfortunately there is no good 'mob kill' message besides exp gain
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: So you'd have to trigger 'lastkill 1' off xp message, and then have a trig capture the output of that.
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: Ah I can work on that. I didnt know that command! Thank you Starling!
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: np! :)
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: from twitter: How's your day going? I ran "source .bash_history" instead of "source .bash_profile"!
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: oof!
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: okay moving this to tech to save immtalk people some spam
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: my PSU has two PCIe 6-pin connectors and two PCIe 6+2 pin connectors. GPU takes 8+8 pin power and comes with two converters that take two 6-pin connectors and convert it to one 8-pin connector. am I good here?
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that math looks legit to me
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: 6+6=8 + 8 = 2x8
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Endymion.
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: looks like one of them might be modular so it may be gone forever.
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyone here using NVDA? I have a question
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've heard there's some kind of "cursor" mode
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I want to disable it
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: anyone have a good autopotion? :P
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have a heal potion autoquaffer plugin...taking that and turning it into an all potion autoquaffer was one of the first things lunk did to learn how to make plugins...but his stuff is no more
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: RIP
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: just looking for heal pots right now, being blacksmith without healing is hard :P
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast also has a potion quaffer plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: What exactly do you want the potion plugin to do?  If you just want something to track what potions you have and allow you to easily grab/consume one when you want, you could use the plugin listed in my whois.  It won't autoquaff for you though.
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basts is more of a potion manager than a quaffer, though...keeps track of how many of different pots you have, and gives you a command to get/quaff them...mine's just an autoquaffer that quaffs when your HPs go below a set %
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: yeah looking for an autoquaffer
T3/r7/2017-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: normally wont matter but sometimes i look away and im dead :P
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyone have a suggestion for a decent video editor, all the ones i know are going pay per month and i dont use them enough to justify that right now
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: hi, my S&D doesn't load the mobs, yesterday worked fine and I didn't changed anything, any idea why?
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: does S&D stores the mobs? 1.3.3 does certainly not
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: define 'load mobs' 
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: mobs from my campaing doesn't show up in the S&d window like they are suposed to
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: happened to me 5 cp ago. but everything is fine now. didnt change anything 
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: do you by chance have S&D window minimized?
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: try typing cp check
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: wich version zinji ?
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: which*
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: with cp check  i get the campaign mobs in the main output window, they still doesn't show up on S&D window (version 1.3.3)
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i've deleted the plugins and reinstalled them (same version) and they are working now, wierd
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: Zinji: it sometimes happens if you took a gq in the meantime... only solution I found was to reinstall the plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: ok, noted
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: how do you turn a script into a plugin? Or how do you load a script into mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9617 <- video showing how to make a plugin in mush
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: via the plugin wizard (file -> plugin wizard) -- but make you UNSELECT everything except the stuff you want in the plugin, otherwise it'll move all your aliasses, triggers, etc
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I pressed something by accident I think, and the squares in my mini-map inflated.  How can I get them back to normal size?
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: mousewheel in and out on them
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Don't use a mousewheel
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: click in the * in upper left
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: room size (-)
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: them click upper left (x)
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Thank you:)  Room size works
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: hey all, i'm getting back into the game after about 3 year hiatus.  how do i turn off these: '{affoff}91'
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: help tags
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: tags spellups off?
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it probably means you had a spellup script installed previously
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: bueno thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: yea, i think i previously was using Bast's spellup plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: still works well
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: I'll get re-acquainted before i go mucking about :p
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: if you get it again, not sure if it enables the tags, it probably does, so just remember that
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it probably does
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Welcome back then ;p but mucking about is the best part, so get to it
T3/r7/2017-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: haha
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: anyone know how i disabled mccp in mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't intentionally do it, something must've crashed
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quit & restart MUSH
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can turn off compression, though.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: there is a 'disable compression' check box.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: compress off will effectitively turn off MCCP
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: effetively*
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I can't spell today
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: You do not have compression on. See 'HELP MCCP' for information on how to get this working for you.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Type compress on
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the box was not checked
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that was the message i got when i typed "mccp"
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Or ignore what I'm suggesting.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Because that's the message you get when you turn compression off.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: compress on did nothing
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Hmm, maybe disregard, because compress on does NOT turn it back on.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yeah, jsut realized.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: At some point, you typed 'compress off'
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd need to renegotiate it back on by connecting again
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So yeah, restart MUSH then.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wait, so you can turn it off but not on? lol
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ah ok lemme try that biker
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: appears so :p
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but thanks anaristos, I didn't know about that checkbox in MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yeah, I seem to remember you could turn it back on, which is why I suggested it.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: Biker Tech: I didn't know 
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh just reconnect worked without clsing
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, reconnect would renegotiate...but I know that occasionally the zlib library crashes, and for that I think you have to restart MUSHclient
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh i turned it off heheh
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: was equating mccp with gmcp
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: derp
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't want to turn gmcp off
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: is this the 2nd time this year you admitted that there is something you dont know?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: things like the mapper and the comm log won't work with gmcp off
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: is there a notary public here to certify that?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hang on, lemme switch back to Abe to make it "official"
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I, Abraham Lincoln, was wrong when I said that you cannot intentionally tell MUSHclient to not use MCCP, and Anaristos taught me about a feature of MUSHclient I didn't know about :-)
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Vampire Hunter
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, me and my mighty axe
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that was a good movie
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Note that he said "Abraham Lincoln" when in all reality, he's just "Abelinc." Admitting fault by deflecting it on our former President!
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc had his fingers crossed, too
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: p.s. anaristos you turned on the triv channel and its very hard to resist doing stuff on it
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: looking for an awesome enchanter... 6 pieces
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: hm. https://www.geekbench.com/blog/2017/12/iphone-performance-and-battery-age/
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hey guys, uhm, how do i remove the page number on the first page while still having the other page numbers on the other pages
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: ms word 2016
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enei Tech: On the Insert tab, in the Headers & Footers group, click Page Number, and then click Format Page Numbers. In the Start at box, type 0.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bason Tech: why do i get this message when i try to xrt area name: Alias function "xrun_to" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: is your S&D plugin an older version? you might need to update. finger Starling or Nokfah for updated S&D versions.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: if nothing else, try reinstalling the plugins and then doing an xrt again and see if it breaks.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: So SouthWest wifi is garbage, just in case no one knew ;p, no packet loss, but 700 ping
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: can someone with a Pretitle please send me a tell?  just looking to test something
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: thank you kind sirs
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: did someone really complain about ping on an airplane?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: ...
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'll let you know how American Airlines' ping is when I fly next month.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: And I'll be sure to complain about lag and stuff.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: complain to the pilot about the latency
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: as much as it costs to fly they should have an ethernet cable draped down from the plane :P
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if I can't play online twitch shooters from the plane what's even the point of living
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what a world we live in
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I remember paying $1 per packet for comms via satellite
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The good ol' days, where you had to pay 10 cents per letter sent via text message...
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Imagine what your bill would be like today if that were still a thing...
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it wasn't cheap but you'd get your telemetry data from the middle of the ocean
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: those fresh memes would be so much money
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: in highschool we got a 64KB hardline... it was like the fastest thing ever... '96 or something
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol, I'm thinking of 2010.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You've sent 138418103272 characters, and 42829382 emojis. Your bill is $2,283,381,521.63. Please pay immediately to avoid cancellation or late charges.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sounds like Pai's new payment plan for throttling the internet.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: he's restoring freedom though, Turie. it has the word freedom. it must be good.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://www.orbitalsatcom.com/iridium-short-burst-data-sbd-monthly-airtime
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Was reading today about that, actually. In the end, it's going to hurt startup businesses more than anything, unless they could cover the costs to utilize their "fair share" of bandwidth.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Inclusive Bytes per Month: 0 Bytes
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley looks at Long Time Fiendish and screams out, "Oh My God!"
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Overage (per 1,000 Bytes): $1.50
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: but how much hardline internet costs around the world? i pay 20 euros for 50Mbit/s connection in estonia. 24 euro would give me 100Mbit
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: estonia is tiny
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: yeah, we also have 14 cases :P
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's much cheaper to connect a small country than a large one with distributed population and coverage mandates
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 750$ for 300/300
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: oooh traxhx. that's grazy
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Trachx: which $
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i could soon get 10GBit/s for 100 euros/month :D
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: country is small enough you just set up a residential wifi and walk away? :p
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and 20$ for more or less 50/50 (but that 50 is not guaranteed)
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: american $
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: trachx and you pay this 750 for your home connection?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: $750 for 300/300? You better be getting that speed, with 100% uptime.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: any gigabit internet is wasted for residential use. there isn't a server in the world that will actually send you data that fast
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no my home is 20$, that 300/300 is real speed
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: fiendish: this 10GBit connection reguires very fast m2 and 7th gen i7 which will be at max load :D
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: that's not entirely true, gigabit can still be much faster than 10/100 just not max speeds
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: oh I read that wrong
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: yeah gigabit for residential internet is pointless
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually provider sells overprovisioned connection
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so ISP has 1 GB uplink and sells 1 GB  links to 10 or more people
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and the question is can you really use it. like will it make any difference for your experience
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: like the most any website will ever push at you is about 25 small b Mbps
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: call it 3MB/s
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so actually my home connection is "up to" than 100/100, byt up to I mean if I am only user then I will get that 100/100, otherwise it is shared
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: those 100 or higher links are quite useful if you want to download linux image or dev tools
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but you need to that just once , and after that 10/10 is good enough for daily use
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: pwar, checkversion plz
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: exactly... i could get 2x better connection for a small fee but it makes no sense. 
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: at work we have 150Mbit connection, but we need it
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: at home different story
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it'd be more useful for downloading images if the linux scheduler didn't suck so much and lock up the whole machine on high disk IO
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess you mean just single SATA hdd drive?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ssd
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: pcie
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but those are able to do 1GB/s transfers ? how can it lock up your machine
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lots of transfers
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I have no RL experience with PCIe SSDs, so far I just used raid arrays 10k/15k SAS hdds
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: btw if you have 2 or more pci-e ssds and you want to do raid-1 then is your only option software raid? or there are some hardware cards for that ?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: can anyone help me ? i'm not getting info messages and my info channel is on
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: type info
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: maybe maybe you have a trigger or plugin that is omitting the infos from output
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: have you recently added anything that triggers on info lines?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check whether you have on/off clan only
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: "Your info channel is ON"
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but there are subchannels for info channel
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok, Newbies was off, so that's potentialy one problem solved
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: please clarify "not getting"
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: but my powerups setting is ON ON ON, and i'm not seeing any powerups, including my own
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: help spam
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: are you using mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: Fiendish: I am not seeing the INFO messages
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: yes, i am, 5.06
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: do you have the communication log miniwindow visible?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean those:INFO: Goldrake has rid the Forest of Li'Dnesh of poachers. ?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: yes, i mean those, Trachx
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: right-click on the communication log, go to Echo Channels..., then go to Echo Other Info
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: yes, Fiendish i have the coom log visibnle
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is INFO checked?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you do not see that neither in comm log nor in main window ?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if so then one of your plugins consumes (gags) those lines
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: Fiendish: Info echoing is now ENABLED.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: was it not checked before and now you've checked it?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: correct
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: problem probably solved
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: is this something new with this version ?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: possibly
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'll review the setting defaults again
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe they're backwards
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: OK, let me see if my next powerup shows
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: YES :)
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: problem solved
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: great
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: so Apple reducing the clock speed of CPUs in older iphones: does it look for a degraded battery or does it reduce the clock speed of all the older models? having trouble figuring this out based on the articles.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: they say its for your own good
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: so you just agree with them
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: and maybe it is for phones with worn out batteries. I'm wondering if the older models with brand new batteries still get throttled.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: apple devices are not repairable. 
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the battery can be replaced
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: no!
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: bro
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: you CANT replace the battery. its against the agreement
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: iPhoney is what it is.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i have had Apple devies repaired. However, I abandaoned Apple several years back.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: you buy new phone. and be quiet
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: but without joking. this is very bad news for apple
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but this doesn't answer my original question
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: what was it?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: is the CPU throttled only when the battery is degraded or is it throttled with new batteries too
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: probably either way
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: the new update of that sick os cripples your phone
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: but that's literally an educated guess
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: its proven
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I googled it my goddamned self and only phones with old batteries are throttled
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: apple's new rival orange is coming, and it's everything apple is not
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: nope. its the os
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the OS does the throttling but checks the battery
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: how?>
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: it happens when abelinc looks at your phone
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: what do you mean how
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: the os knows very little about a battery
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and says: "You slow your role, yo!"
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the OS knows the design capacity and the last full charge of the battery
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: it may check if its from this year - that doesnt mean a thing
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: nah
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: are you on a Windows laptop?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: dont defend apple. it makes YOU look bad
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: did Apple trick Microsoft into giving me fake numbers for my Li-ion battery
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: what numbers?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: open up command prompt and do "powercfg -energy"
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: theres the problem - how does one os figure out if a battery has gone old?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: by comparing the design capacity to the last full charge
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: nope
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: there is no way it can measure a battery
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: no freaking way
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: welcome to like 2006, my man
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: they argument was to prevent a shutdown or something.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: this is just stupid
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: how did Apple trick Microsoft into giving me numbers for my li-ion battery though that's so crazy I'm never buying Apple again
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: if a consumer sees the battery dies too fast, he'll go and switch it.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: what apple did was just sick
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: What did they do>
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Apple passed a $1.5 trillion giveaway to rich people and corporations
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Wow. So, what does that have to do with us?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: they're selling your organs to raise the money
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: How to they get organs?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: knives
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Its not like a MacBook Pro can take yo apart piece by piece.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Or in that matter, a Iphone
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: they will be smarter with XI and say its gonna last 13 months
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: thats what i would do if i was jim cook
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: you buy your incredible device for exactly 13 months
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Batteries are doomed to die. Theres no way around that. Theres no way to make a battery last forever. Each second, the power of each battery is degraded.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jurus Tech: off
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: just type "tech"
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chevalier nods
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: true. but tuning down the performance is a sick, sick move
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: no one else does that
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: if there was a warning - ok. but they did it secretly
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Then fabricate your own battery that interfaces with your laptop's battery connection module.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: It wouldnt be that hard, provided that all you have to customize is the connection slot.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: You could buy the battery component anywhere
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: wait what? im a consumer. gladly not Apple's
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: The microprocessor in the battery that lets the laptop know how the battery is doing could easily be transferred from a genuine one.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: So, 30 minute fix, provided you know what your doing
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: lol, you could combine a whole bunch of batteries into a mega battery pack that drains all batteries equally. The same chip could connect to all of them, letting the computer know the stats of all of them at the same time. Since all of them share the workload, it will last practically months.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: The megapack could be worn as a backpack :D
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Just make sure the current is not too much for the laptop, or its fried.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: or the radiation wont cause cancer
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: one conspiracy at a time, please
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I've had iPhones since the 3GS and don't think the throttling is a big deal. it's dumb that they weren't up front about it, but that's it.
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: they were avoiding being equal to every other device of the same type
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: embarrassed to share the same physical laws
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: all the marketing from Apple says that they are something special and perfect... oops. the battery is the same
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I gather someone isn't getting the iphone they wanted for christmas?
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: My mouse has stopped working; any tips? The batteries are charged and I can't think of anything else to try...
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: re sync them
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: should have a button on both
T3/r7/2017-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: Done that, still nothing
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: any Blowtorch users know if it is possible to define and load button sets via plugins?
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what is a key for numpad-* ? I mean if I want to use AcceleratorTo("CTRL+Numpad8",    <-- so what should I use instead of Numpad8 ?
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Add works for numpad +, Subtract for numpad -, so I guess numpad-* is Multiply
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dunno i look at the settings page and each key has box
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: NumpadAsterisk ?
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: already got it: Multiply
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Is there a keyboard shortcut to go to the next blank row in Excel?  There really should be, without me needing to make a custom macro/code
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: tab?
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maokai Tech: ctr+direction
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ooooh nice
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I was searching for the wrong thing :P
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I was looking for first BLANK, but last filled is just as handy :)
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maokai Tech: ctrl+shift+arrow to select all cells between where you are and next blank
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth gallantly tips his hat to Maokai.
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: thats nice trick, mao
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maokai Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: anyone have any experience with HFT?
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunpeal Tech: sorry high frequency trading
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Im building an artificial intelligence in C++. :)
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: 240 here. always. we have balls
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: meh, it's silly to plug a light that draws maybe 0.5 amp into a socket that can power a multi-kilowatt space heater.  the 120 volt lines are fine for that stuff.  For the real fun toys, we use the 240 :)
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: started to watch some football. 1st thought was why are they showing fifa gameplay
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: but it was real thing
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: looks worse than the game
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Pleiades goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I saw the following error when installing S&D
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: Trigger function "process_cp_check" not found or had a previous error
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Tried turning it off and on again?
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Have you tried bopping it on the nose for being a bad plugin?
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: no, I threw it across the room
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That should suffice.
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Which plugin version did you try to install?
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: starling's
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: also installed bast's stuff
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: looking at some stuff on a pc to see what I like and not
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Then not sure what the issue is, unfortunately.
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: https://pastebin.com/Bhh4DuW4
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mickey Tech: anyone know where I can get a tic timer for mush?
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: should be built in at the bottom of the screen
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Tipro, unfortunately, it isn't in everyone's installation files. https://www.dropbox.com/s/a9aeap15lj0c58b/Aardwolf_Tick_Timer.xml?dl=0
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Depends on if it's vanilla or Aardmush.
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: for a period of time, Fiendish removed it....unsure if it is back
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mickey Tech: I have the aardmush but it isn't included
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: how can s
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: how can s
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: what?
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: sorry, i mean the screen of messages only is gone
T3/r7/2017-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what's a good capture pattern for mob short descs?  I don't want to use .+ as it can match things that it shouldn't.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I'm thinking something like [A-Za-z0-9] but with basic punctuation
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: depends on the context of the trigger. i'd use * because short desc could contain spaces and many words
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: then constrain the regexp with thuff either side if possible
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: stuff*
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: so i use ^You get (.*?) from the corpse of (.*?)\.$
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: gmcpdata.enemy seems to be good enough after stripping color codes
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or you could extract that from con output like processing : "You would stomp $Mob$ into the ground.", "$Mob$ would be easy, but is it even worth the work out?"
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strawman Tech: does anyone know how to get room #'s using tintin?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: alright... i need help before i kill people....  i restart my in-laws AT&T DSL modem... for a variable amount of time it has a ping of under 100ms.... then it just jumps to 2400ms and stays there...  ive kicked all clients off of the network... so its not a congestion issue.... ideas?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Faulty wiring somewhere?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: this is where i dont know enough about DSL.... if it were faulty wiring, would it get to a low ping, then jump high every time it reboots?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: if the wiring is screwy then anything can happen I suppose
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yeah, I'm just making guesses here as to what the problem may be. Might consider switching out the cable to the modem.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: If that fixes it, then you know the one you have now is no good.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: we shall see...  thanks for the suggestions ;)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: when a plugin crashes, why are the line numbers always wrong>
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Line number isn't wrong. Just have to know how to properly read it.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: they literally are never correct
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: makes troubleshooting plugins a big pain
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: They literally are correct, just not the way you expect them to be.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: care to explain instead of being cryptic?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I would, but I have to remember the explanation given to me in order to explain it to you properly.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: But there is a reason it doesn't match the way you think it should.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it says line 1555, but there is nothing of relevance there, and I added the number of lines above the lua code (the xml stuff) but there is nothing relevant there either.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Read here: I think this is the explanation that I got before: https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=2437
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: A quick hack I do sometimes is to add a bad line in the plugin and check what line number is reported vs. where I know the bad line actually is.  Once you have that offset you can calculate other lines fairly easily.  Yeah, it's ugly but it does work...
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Essentially, you're counting from the <script> tag, not the start of the plugin.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: If you include constants.lua, you need to add those lines, too.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So if your script is 300 lines, and constants is 200 lines, and error is on line 54, then you do 300+200-54, or line 446
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Also, Durel, that's a pretty good idea. Add the bad line to the first line after the <script> tag, then offset the errors that way.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, that seems like the quickest and most reliable way I've found
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's definitely a bit quicker than counting the lines between script tags and in constants, for sure.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Well, you still are counting those lines, but we are letting mush count them for us :p
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Could, if you wanted to, just add a comment of -- Line 10/20/30/40, etc. every 10 lines, but...
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: how long in milliseconds is one 10kHz wave cycle?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: .1?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: should be way less than that
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: you know 1 hz = 1/s? :)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: oh:)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: so 1/10000 of a second
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: yep.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Wave_frequency.gif
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i should drink less and study more
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i wonder if lags in circuits could be enough to cause trouble with the sound. if its an amp.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: huh?  no.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the electric signals travel at the speed of light, or nearly so
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: not at all
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: thats the issue
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what was the question?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: for example. i used a plugin to change the phase between 2 stereo channels. adjusting only a weeeeeee-bit, it just massively changed the sound
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you said lags in "circuits"...not lags in software processing...
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's not due to lag, it's due to interference between the two out of phase waveforms
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: if such microscopic change could affect the sound that much, i though this could become troublesome if the electron-flow-lag or whatever is large enough
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no such thing as electron-flow-lag...
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: there is no electron flow lag.  the electric field propagates through the wire at pretty much c.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: there is
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: no, there isn't
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i read a blog yesterday
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that sounds like some kind of audiophool phony advice.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, you read a blog...my mistake...
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: its about c/1000
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: the speed
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that'd be funny :)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if it was an audiophool blog, disregard it.  Those people are beyond whackjobs and spout the most ridiculous pseudo-science and audio woo imaginable
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: no. it was just about electrons
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: mp3s degrade over time!
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: electrons traveling through copper move fast enough to travel to the other side of the globe with no discernable lag...
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i cant disregard anything at this point
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i have grudge
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: actually, electrons themselves most at speeds on the order of tenths of millimeters per second, it's just that the electric field propagants at near c and so all the electrons start and stop at the same time
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: with an alternating current circuit, the electrons in the wall switch never actually leave the switch
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I did simplify that a bit...one electron doesn't move the entire way, but the one over here "bumps off" the one at the other end
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: quote from wikipedia (not the best source, I know, but this is not rocket science): 'In everyday electrical and electronic devices, the signals or energy travel as electromagnetic waves typically on the order of 50%99% of the speed of light, while the electrons themselves move (drift) much more slowly.'
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: electric signals travel at the speed of the electric field, so they go at c
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: exaclty what the blog said, Abe. and there is lag. 
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's not discernable lag, no
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I love reading audiophool pages though, those people are smoking a lot of ketamine if they believe that stuff :P
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: as Starling just said: you don't hear the electrons, you 'hear the 
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: as Starling just said: you don't hear the electrons, you 'hear the 
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: as Starling just said: you don't hear the electrons, you 'hear' the electromagnetic field
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try having a land-line phone call from california to new york, then tell me that your circuits were lagged...
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if there's any lag at all, it's due to the switch gear, anyway
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: also, I don't think there's ANY environment in which the speed of light would drop that much (5000 times or something)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: wanna buy a pair of 6000-dollar USB cables?  Id be glad to sell you a set
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling nudges Full-blown Celebrity.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: electrons have mass. no c for those ever
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: nah. i just try to get educated. see if there is something going on. thats all.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: you missed the part above about the fact that it's not the electrons that move through the circuits to generate the sound, but the field
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: they do move. one goes in, one gets out the other side
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: not the same one
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: the funny thing it's not the same one :D
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we need xyliz in this conversation :-)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: there *was* one hypothesis that all electrons are the same electron following a convoluted world line
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber rolls on the floor laughing at your antics! 
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: thats how theoretical physicists rob tax payers
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: that's kind of like saying all 3s are the same number
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: my 3 is definitely bigger
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: no. its just closer
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: for you
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: damn, I typed the reply on that 3 times, still unappropiate for tech :D
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CDs reduce the sound quality so much from vinyl, you can no longer hear and point to where the harp player sits like you can with a quality stereo record }:>
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber looks specifically at you and goes, "NOT TODAY, SATAN!"
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: besides, he/she/it wasn't on in the last 13 hours :)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: of course if you copy a vinyl to cd
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: files stored under lossy compression are subject to degradation (12 kb/s per year) through rotational velocidensity... stick to FLACs people
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber goes ooOOooOOoo at Morn.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: those 2 things are extremely different. vinyl has crossfeed
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: cd - both channels are unique
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: toying with phase is extremely sensitive subj. this is the example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWB5PSoV2I0
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: watch somewhere in the middle, he plays normal and then the same thing in opposite phase a bit later
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: when i experimented with it, each tiny turn of the phase knob was not just noticeable. it was massively different 
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: and unpredictable
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: what's in the video has nothing, and I do mean nothing at all to do with the subject above (about lag)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, phase shifts have big impacts not because of "lag", but because of cancellation and augmentation
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: think sound-cancelling headphones
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: my idea (can be a complete bs of course) was that if 0.01 ms phase difference could affect the sound, the lags(if any component is lazy enough) could actually cause issues
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: it's not lag there - it's one thing to mix two different signals over a signle channel, and have two separate signals on two channels
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: to have any audio impact, you'd need not one, but two conditions: 1. a SIGNIFICANT lag (which doesn't occur, as described above) and 2. different lags on the two audio channels (left/right, or more than two)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celebrity Tech: yep. thats what i wanted to know
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: if it was possible to have enough difference between two channels
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: ok. another one. i have rca connectors card>amp. they are quite worn but still working. now, logically if there is any connection left between the metal bits, it should be fine
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: but the sound goes just crappy occasionally.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: rubbing them a bit makes the sound come back
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: An audio engineer is disintegrated by the dense shroud of flames! He is DEAD!
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: is there a setup/font for mush that looks good for a 13 inch laptop... trying some different ones and some stuff looks misaligned
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: https://imgur.com/a/sVExV gross dust aside, what kind of cable am I looking for to plug that PCI-E outlet into my GPU? seems like I've misplaced the cord since buying the PSU.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I have a shiny TP for anyone who can give me an Amazon link to something that'll work :p
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: help me pls i am so dumb
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded :(
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I think I need a male to male connector? mostly what I'm finding is 2x 6-pin -> 8-pin converters which is not what I need.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Raded, 1 - -1 = 2. That's all the help I can give you.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: you shut your unhelpful mouth
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Dude a number combined with a negative is a negative
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers with A Nimwit Bamboo about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: maybe this? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0759G3MDW/ref=psdc_597260_t1_B00A3OVG4W
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: just don't google 'male to male connector'
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: oh we're way beyond that
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if I buy this and it doesn't work I'm fully blaming Endymion
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: https://www.amazon.com/XCSOURCE-External-Independent-Expresscard-AC773/dp/B0725B6L99/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_147_tr_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=F7DVXMXSA65FMQYAF329 -- Maybe that?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: https://is.gd/kONzqA -- short link better.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: what even is that thing
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I don't know. I just googled pcie gpu connector. :p
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I just need a cable. desktop PC, takes two 8-pin PCIE power cables. I have one already, but the other one is modular, and I've lost it.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: https://imgur.com/a/sVExV  so I need something that goes from the red thing there to the GPU
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Anyway to filter internet connections down? Crap slow speed but resource monitor keeps showing a 3mb/s rate....
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I DO have one of the modular 6 pin cables that goes to three of the generic 4-pin things, so I'm wondering if something like this might work: https://is.gd/VVfUz6
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Ok...utsvcs happens to be hogging my network speed, anyway to block it?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You have Unthreat installed?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Nope
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Seems to be one of those things that randomly just appeared there
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Googled utsvc and it came back with Unthreat. :p
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Might have a virus, then.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Where would one usualy find that file?/Block its internet access?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Having 60kb/s dl speed when res monitor is clearly showing a total of 3mbs on network....well....
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'd check for viruses first before blocking anything.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I have an ordered list but there are gaps in the numbers.  How to close those gaps?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: So far, windows defender has taken care of most of it....for some reason, that file is sitting in system32 folder though, but permission blocks me from doing anything to it
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I had a problem like that once. Took me forever to fix it.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Couldn't do anything to the file.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Any ideas where to start?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: safe mode, login as an administrator and see if you can delete it, move it, or change the permissions
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Adding it to blocklist of firewall gonna help at all?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I wonder if it is possible to add a graphic card to Raspberry Pi 3B to play Gamecube games on it.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Or PS2 or Dreamcast too
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Reddit tells me I should either contact the PSU manufacturer for a cable, which sounds like an ultra pain in the ass, or buy a new PSU, which also sounds annoying as hell.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: i thought you said your psu had 2 6+2 (8) pin power cables?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: one is modular and has disappeared
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: ok but you said you have the adapter for the 2x6->8 pin adapter right? and another 6+2=8 pin adapter?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: who makes your psu?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Antec
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the non-modular is a 6-pin and a 6+2-pin
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: try calling them, sometimes you get lucky. i called MSI about a missing cable for my mobo and an actual person answered the phone
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: and he was really helpful
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm also impatient and want to use my new toy. and I don't even know the right words to use to describe the cable I need :p
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: 8 pin power cable
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: just put a microwave transformer across it
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: great entertainment
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: or 8 pin power adapter
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I bought it 9-ish years ago and reddit seems to think that it has to be a cable made specifically for that PSU to work
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: sometimes you can just order modular cables or sets of them for various psu's
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: tried their website?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: that's what I thought too, and I found this: https://is.gd/P3Khrb but now reddit has me shook.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: doesn't look like Antec has the cables on their site
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if both those 6 pins on your PSU are the same rail then i bet that 6 to 8 would work just fine.  are they the correct female/male ends?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: amazon.com
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: when in doubt, check if amazon sells them
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Endy: the GPU takes two 8-pins though, that's the issue. I have a 6-pin and a 6+2-pin.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Anyway to only allow certain apps through to internet acess?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yes, windows firewall has that feature, though I haven't used it.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But will need more information most likely. I just assumed you were using windows, and had a version with windows firewall :)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: Raded: look at your power supply, if theres an 8-pin modular output and it says "PCIE" then that cable you linked is what you need
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: right, your psu pic showed 2 ports - 1 was a 6+6 and 1 was an 8 right?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Kinda finding my network at 1-3mb/s but dl speed jumping between 8 and 60kb/s....quite a pain in the ass
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: 12v1 is 1 rail and 12v4 is another
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Endy: yes, Kash: reddit is saying it has to match the model of the PSU
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: why is lua so tarded with tables sometimes?  Hash tables store data in random order, and there seems to be no table.something to take an ordered list with gaps and just redo the numbers to have no gaps.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: does that pic match your psu?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Because ordering tables adds complexity if you don't need it.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: But if you do need it
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Deleting/inserting is more complicated.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the imgur link is my PSU, the other one is just the random thing I found.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: its the same cable man :p
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the "extra" 2 pins on the 6 would be grounds which it will share on the 8 pin side.  i doubt the current will exceed the wire capacity
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I think I can do something like 'for i=1,#table,1' and if table[i] is nil, set table[i] to be table[i+1] and remove table[i+1], and so on down the list.  maybe?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Look at the second post here: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=6036
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: the extra pins are probably a +/- pair
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: because thats the difference between a 6-pin and an 8-pin connector
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: according to the pic both ends are black
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hmm it seems that diff between 8pin and 6pin is Sense and another ground - both had 3 12V pins
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: alright, so do I order the cable from this random website or bite the bullet and replace my nearly decade old PSU?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: just looked at the price for that cable, damn thats expensive
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: id say either or, pick one
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: amazon has 6 to 8 pin
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but will it deliver enough power to the GPU?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm leaning just buying a new PSU now.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: looks like I could get a good replacement for $50-60
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the 2 extra pins on 8 pin are not more power
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: if you got the cash thats probably best, id go full modular and single 12 volt rail 80+ silver or higher
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: the 6-pin to 8-pin converters that GPUs always come with are 2x 6-pin to 1x 8-pin though.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: check this out.  pcie vs cpu power connections http://abelinc.me/pcie
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: cpu would be extra power, pcie is not
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: so the 2x 6-pin to 1x 8-pin adapter I could just plug in one of the 6-pin and it would work?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i believe so.  i think draining Sense to ground will make it think that its connected to an 8pin
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so any of the standard adapters will probably work just fine, but if you're going to spend >$10 on a cable it might be a better investment to upgrade the PSU
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: we also dont know what your 12V rails are rated at, vs how much your GPU needs per
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: looking like a new PSU is the way to go.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: what about this lil guy https://pcpartpicker.com/mr/newegg/g63RsY
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: looks like it checks all the boxes
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what GPU you have?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: EVGA 1070 Ti FTW2
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: keeping with my habit of buying a near top of the line gaming PC once a decade then not upgrading until it falls apart
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: which is better?  Using the <send> field of a trigger to do EnableTrigger("trig", false), or calling a script function from the trigger, and having that function do it?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: it's a style choice, don't over think it.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But generally I use send unless it's a lot of code or code I'll be resuing a lot
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the only difference I can see is that it looks like the send field executes before the called function, although I have no idea if that matters
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: easier to read without jumping around a lot
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kash Tech: it does, and it matters if you need to execute code before calling a function
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: that old discussion earlier. if im not wrong and messed something up, changing the phase of 2 identical signals by 0.1ms is enough to hear the sound changing.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Phase isn't really described in terms of time, anyway
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: nitpicking. im not technical with that. 
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: phase difference would be given as the angular displacement between the two waveforms, in radians
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: yeah. i just watched the ms counter
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: It also depends on the frequency of the sound, at low frequency like 60Hz our ears are so insensitive to phase difference that you have almost no directional hearing at that frequency
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i think it was less than 0.1ms when i heard the change.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: yep. i tested it quickly. too late to get too geeky now:)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: just picked a note. too tired to go full nerd now
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Describing it as a time displacement means that the angular displacement will be different for different frequencies.  Giving it as an angular displacement at least keeps things consistent and in proportion
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I still recommend only reading audiophool blogs for the entertainment value ;)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: nah. it was just interesting.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: about that audiophoolery. im not one really. but at one time i had to mix and master a few songs and didn't know much to begin with. so i watched the tutorials..
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's actually the phase difference between the sound received at each ear that allows for directional hearing, pretty neat
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: they made 2 clicks and said "now, can you hear, the piano sounds much blabla now".. which i din't.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: legit audio production != audiophoolery
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: but after 200 such clicks, their project sounded waaay better than what they begun with
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: so. some people hear stuff... some dont.
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: yep. directional hearing is pure magic. not just phase.. 
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: does anyone know the max buffer length for mush's built-in notepads?
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: any reason to think there is a max?  i just opened a 31MB chat log in it, and it took about 20 seconds to load but it was all there
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: yeah vi players use a plugin which buffers mud output into notepad, and from what I hear it fills up and they have to clear it out
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I like how the help for AppendToNotepad says "You might use GetNotepadLength to check if there is likely to be room in the notepad for the new text."
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dunno maybe thats not what i was thinking then, not sure how output buffers to output
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: but no mention anywhere of the max length that I can find :p
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: notepad++ always has room for new text ;)
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: facepalm :P
T3/r7/2017-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I asked this some months back... is there anything like Cscope for Lua?  Something that would make it easier to trace process pathways?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: In Mushclient, "Send(insertstringhere)" is the equivalent of "Send to World". What is the "Send" equivalent of "Execute"? Apparently, it isn't "Execute()"
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yes it is.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Execute("string here")
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Not if the alias itself is set to Script.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yes, it is.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: In the script, do Execute("whatever") and it works.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I've written enough plugins to know.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pwar gives Crowley an award
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's weird. It malfunctioned earlier but it's working now for some reason.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: No awards needed. :p
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: it's shiny though ;D
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It kept triggering my other alias as I wanted but instead of triggering the alias as an execute, it triggered it it as a send to world. But not anymore.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: my ascii mapper has disappeared and reloading plugin doesn't get it back, is there a command?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ride the Tram Tech: accidently lost my search and destroy window, whats the easiest way to get it back
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: how to take an ordered list with gaps in the keys and fix it so that keys are sequential?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/15706270/sort-a-table-in-lua
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: err, what do you mean by fix ?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have ordered list just go through it and create new list
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the gaps in the keys break the loop though
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that isn't the info I need, thanks though
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the keys are numbers and ideally would start at 1 and be sequential, but this one has gaps, i.e. instead of 1,2,3,4 it might go 1,3,5,6,8 etc.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: trying to get it to fix them, i.e. the second table keys would become 1,2,3,4,5
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean you have a list  1=a,2=b,4=c so you want to have 1=a,2=b,3=,4=c ?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I don't understand why this isn't basic functionality in lua, table.renumber or something
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: no
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: sort of but not quiet
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the 1,2,4 would become 1,2,3
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: having 3 just be empty would cause problems
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: lua does care about whether the table is "numbered" when traversing a table sequentially 
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the best I can manage is to do for i=1,#table,1 do if table[i] == nil then set table[i] to something like {null="1"} and that does work.  I have problems filtering out all the gaps when there are a lot of them, it usually just breaks the loop
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: it's an ordered list, it's not a hash table.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is there any difference for lua?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean try this: for k,v in spairs(yourlist) do print(k,v) end
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or ipairs
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: no idea, I just know this sort of table cleanup/condensing function should be a basic part of the string library
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: but it isnt so have to do myself
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if the table is "renumbered" then those numbers are unlikely to be used elsewhere except in a process-loop -- so the exercise is either to (1) eliminate the empties and renumber, or (2) renumber the non-empties without removing the empties
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: and or (3) improve the process-loops so the empties don't break the loop
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i dont know much about electronics so it might be stupid question but whatever. can loudspeakers themselves could affect how the amp works?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: some hm.. feedback is nonsense maybe but.. yeah. 
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: like, if using way different kinds of speakers, can that affect how things happen in those amps, preamps etc?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: http://www.audiogurus.com/learn/speakers/speaker-impedance-rating/1092
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Or better yettwo completely unrelated speaker pairs side-by-side connected to the same stereo amplifier.  And they wonder why the amplifier keeps shutting off. It just doesnt make sense, they cry!
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: hm.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you may want to google "amp impedance speakers"
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: where do i set the slient to show the messages screen?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Chou: can you ask that question again?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: the little screen shows messages only
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: the old version of mushclient has that
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Are you missing all messages or just chat messages?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: it's more convenient to catch messages in clan channel
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: right-click on the little window that shows the messages and look under the "Echo Channels In Main Window" 
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: but theres no little window shows message
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I thought you said there was
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: there was in the old version, but it's gone in this latest version
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I misunderstand, then. Can you show me a screen shot of what you see?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: mushclient downloaded from the aardwolf website
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Can you show me a screenshot?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: yes but how
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: try https://snag.gy/
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Chou: how is it going?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: i cant figure it out
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Can't figure out screenshot?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: What OS, Windows?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: i did, but how do i show it to u
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you have to put it online
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: most dangerous but fastest/convenient method would be using teamviewe
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I sometimes have trouble getting teamviewer to run on my laptop
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's stupid to say "most dangerous", though.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's NOT dangerous. You just want to make sure you trust the person first.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: ima put this problem aside and leveling as ASAP and go to bed
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: suggestion: board 17, note to rhuli, new years resolution, "I will stop calling people stupid on tech".
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: see, it's so easy to play!
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: yeah but i dont trust u:P
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: teamviewer is only dangerous if I'm using it
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Chou: ok. Come back when you want to fix the problem.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: ok thanks!
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers with Razor about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it involves 3rd party to use teamviewer and you never know whom you have given access to your PC
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: my new years resolution is to talk to razor more, I know he's down with that
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: just don't talk to him via fido
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Trachx: Doesn't make it dangerous. It's only dangerous if you're stupid and let someone you absolutely do not know or trust use it.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: that wasn't the kind of "dirty talk" I was hoping for in 2018 but at this age your standards lower.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at Razor.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: plenty of 2018 left, given that it hasn't started yet :)
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: 2018 is already dead and gone. Let's fast forward to 2019.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but you trust teamviewer company that their product is secure and does not have any backdoor in it, right ?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I trust teamviewer more than I trust me
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well, more than I tell people to trust me
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, everybody trust Intel and they have put a backdoor in your CPU (minix)
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: does AMD have an equivalent or am I safe?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes they do
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: gosh darn it, I need to just start making my own cpus!
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also that recent HP keylogger they have put into a driver - a "debug" feature (though that actually could be just HP's negligence)
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anvar Tech: hello there, playing mud again after years of absence and want to delete all the map knowledge i have from previous char, and i think there was a 'purge command' for that, but not sure what that was, can anyone help?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Why do you want to delete the knowledge?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd suggest just downloading the aard MUSHclient fresh
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'd clear the mapper's knowledge
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can delete the portals if you need to, but don't delete the map.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anvar Tech: to start anew
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: just move your mapper database elsewhere if you want to start fresh
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: however, the client's mapper knowledge will help you get back into things
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: then if you change your mind, move it back
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is mapper purgezone <area>
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but getting fresh install is much better idea
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't just move it elsewhere, because no mapper file is worse than the initial mapper file
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Trach is right
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: just install a freshly downloaded copy of aardmush
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anvar Tech: cool, thanks for the answers, will reinstall mush!
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: - 30
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley still has no idea why someone would purposefully want to lose their actual map. Portals, yeah, but the map itself is still more useful than having to remap it all.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you guys are looking at it from your own perspectives :p everyone plays differently and I think they want to start over with their map :)
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods at Pwar.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I came back from a very long absence and if I had been using the mapper previously (go telnet!) I probably would have wanted to start over so that I could relearn each area again.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Fair enough.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Benefit to redoing the mapper, too, is that you can visually see what exits are not mapped.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the purgezone command works for that without the mapper not being able to get to an area, though
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you can use the mapper for quests, but purgezone to explore an area between quests
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arist Tech: how can I reset my mush so that the group hp monitor shows up again? I'm away from home and I guess some settings goes fudged when I copied it to a memory stick.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: resetaard?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arist Tech: thanks, that worked
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: anyoned
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: does mushclient allow you to add "if" statements to aliases?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Use sent to script.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: send to...
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: function(name, line, wildcards)
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: why do I need all three of those?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: missing the function name
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you don't need anything
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: the function name is just 'function' in this case
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I dunno why you'd have a nameless function with name, line, wildcards but okay :p
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: You need all three if calling the function from a trigger or alias
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: if you want to feed data into it from the regexp captures, anyhow
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It'd depend on the function you're calling what args you pass to it, unless I'm missin' something
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no you don't
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: they're optional
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: it will just not receive them if you don't use I think
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: an example
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you can also use function bah(name, line, wildcards, style)
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I have two functions, the first is goto_cp(name, line, wildcards) which is called when you do 'xcp <index>'.  It sets up some initial values and then calls goto_list_item(cpList, index)
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: and style will give you the style info for the line, but it, like the others is optional so you usually don't put it in there unless you intend to use styles in your func
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you're not using the name, the line, the wildcards, or the styles, then don't put them in your function
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: for some reason I feel like that always caused errors
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I usually put name line wc in in case I do use them later but it isn't necessary
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I guess I'll find out
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: only if you try to call if when its not there
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Lua doesn't care if you pass too many or too few arguments
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: function myfunc(a, b) print(a, b) end; myfunc(1,2,3) --> prints 1 2
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: function myfunc(a, b) print(a, b) end; myfunc(1) --> prints 1 nil
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Lua doesn't care
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: when I remove name and line, 'xcp 4' doesn't get the 4, so it defaults to 1, as intended when no number is given
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you remove the name and the line then you can't pass wildcards
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the names don't matter. the positions do
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's what I meant when I said "I need all three"
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you don't need all three unless you want to use the third one
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you didn't say anything about wanting to use the third one, but since you say you want to use the third one, then yes you need at least those three
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean, it doesn't have to be those three, it can be any three
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you could even call it elsewhere using function(nil, nil, wcdata) if you wanted to
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which is super common
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what is the advantage of using local functions?  Does local func = function() Execute("x_ht " .. localItem.mob) end  do anything advantageous, compared to just calling Execute directly?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in the plugin body, nothing
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: just trying to understand what his intent here was
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: only creates it inside the local scope for less mess elsewhere
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in an imported module, it creates a scope barrier
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean...it always creates a scope barrier
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but the top level of your plugin is basically global as far as the plugin cares
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but you could make a local function inside of another function
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: yeah like say you put a local func inside a function though, nothing outside of that function can access it
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: is there a speed advantage to it?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in this case it sounds like the original author was trying to make something that could be passed around the code
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: writing the code, yeah, but not execution wise or anything
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: two function calls will always be slower than one
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I feel like a lot of the code in these scripts is more complex than it needs to be, but I hate to just rip it out without understanding what it's actually and/or supposed to be doing
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: turning off tech for awhile, Merry Christmas you guys :D
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it'd be faster to punch yourself in the face and then start from scratch than to figure winkle out
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: And that's why stuff gets rewritten from the ground up so much.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: e.g. xcp_line_end trigger seemed to not make sense, until I looked up what ?! in regexp means.  Then it made perfect sense.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Hell, I forget how my own stuff works and have to start over sometimes :P
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: are you trying to fix something specific or just torturing yourself for fun?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: mainly trying to learn better Lua, but the problem solving and fixing is fun too
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: except when it isn't
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: robbo
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what is the difference between declaring a variable at the global level with variable_name = "x" versus local variable_name = "x" ?  
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: both are inaccessible from outside the plugin except via callplugin and broadcastplugin, right?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That just changes the scope of who can access the variable.  Using local is "cleaner" in a lot of cases so that you don't mistakenly use the wrong variable.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It also makes it easier to handle things like co-routines so that you know who is accessing what 
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: For example, I use "retval" to store the return value of functions.  A nasty bug involved me not making retval local in two functions and they were mucking up each other's values.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: why are they called 'wildcards' ?  Why not 'arguments' or similar?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Because arguements implies passed after the command, whereas wildcards can be anywhere on the line wherever you put the wildcard?  Just a theory
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: regardless you can name what you want
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I thought wildcards were just a type of parameter.  Historically I think (don't quote me on this) that they were parameters with variable number of entries
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Arguements are also another name for values passed to functions.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: regardless of what you name it, your captures will still be the 3rd argument in a table
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: so helps avoid confusion!
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i call them args, because they are passed to my function :p
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I very have reason to refer to them...
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: very rarely...
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: local at the global scope has no effect
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: local anywhere else restricts access
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wildcards aren't called arguments, because arguments are typically values passed into functions or methods
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: they might be called wildcards because it's possible that nick implemented his basic glob matching before adding regex support
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and the * in his basic matching is a wildcard
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: a more general term might just be matches
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but the really important part is that you can call them whatever you want
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I disagree
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because the name doesn't matter, only the order matters
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: but maybe I'm just being argumentative
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: I like turtles
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What kind? Sea turtles?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You should learn to program in logo then
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: you aren't supposed to respond, you fool!
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Hey Starling, you might want to lbid 83056
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: hmm?  how come?
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Oh never mind, that was a sold notice.  It was for an aarchaeology piece called 'a wild card'. I was being a smartass.
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: oh :)
T3/r7/2017-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Only I messed it up, so I guess I was a dumbass instead!
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: on blowtorch how do you extract room vnums?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: from the commandline...
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't think you get gmcp data on blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: we can allegedly get gmcp dsta but the how is what bamboozles me
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: not allegedly, factually
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: oh, blowtorch. Sorry, I wouldn't know.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: you can ask Fiendish when he is on.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: might be fact but finding details of how to do it make it allegations
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: from the documentation I just read GMCP is planned for the next version.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So it's not factual yet, then.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: ny answer referred to this client I already siad that the statement was not correct.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: en espagnol?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: blowtorch development seems to have been dropped, so not sure if or when a next version will come
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there's a blowtorch gmcp mapper on github, it mentions GMCP needs to be enabled in blowtorch.  not sure how its not there if it can be enabled
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're running a 2.x beta blowtorch, it has GMCP
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: the last version does support gmcp, it doesn't bomb if you send a request, it's just making it human readable that i need
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have they fixed the forums yet, or are they still erroring out?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: that plugin by blockda on github isn't completed
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cuz that was the big issue with trying to look up those answers
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Hmm, I wonder if Fiendish could rework the code for group window to resize automatically based on number in the group.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Dynamic resizing would be pretty neat.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, there's a field value for how many in the group, so should be doable...but I'd imagine it would need to be toggleable as some people want to control the size/position of their windows, and wouldn't want them dynamically changing because of whatever would then be blocked out
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'd be fine with toggling it.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there a way to make MUSHclient display a pop-up window that will bring MUShclient to the front oif my desktop? Like, if I'm on Chrome and with MUSH in the background, but on certain text, MUSH will trigger a trigger that brings about a pop-up window to bring MUSH to the forefront + a small pop-up window with text. 
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess client need to be written to support such events
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So there's currently no way to do this?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I think you could use utils.msgbox to force a popup.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not sure.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Nope, doesn't steal focus.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Darn
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try world.DoCommand "AlwaysOnTop"
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It'd be DoCommand("AlwaysOnTop") rather, for Lua.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: But that doesn't work, as it keeps MUSH on top of everything.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Although...
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You could do "AlwaysOnTop" and utils.msgbox to send the command again and remove the AlwaysOnTop.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, you can "undo" it afterward, but was curious if it'd be triggerable to bring it to the front
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That, it does. Just tested.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So trigger on the event to send: DoCommand("AlwaysOnTop") and then the utils.msgbox to remove it or something.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Nice find there.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So, let's say I want a trigger that does this with the text "Aardwolf", what would be the complete code, complete with turning alwaysontop on and off?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Give me a few, and I'll write it up for you.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks, man!
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: So in the trigger response, you want this: DoCommand("AlwaysOnTop") -- on one line, and then: if utils.msgbox("Triggered!") == "ok" then DoCommand("AlwaysOnTop") end
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can change "Triggered!" to whatever you want it to be ("Quest time!", for example), but there's your code.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so if you mean fmudq req
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, I see "Triggered!" and just think current "PC" stuff :P
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers with you about your shared secret. 
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: I've been looking for a service to purchase movies and download them to my PC. With the data caps they're enforcing on most ISP's now streaming high def is not really an option anymore. Does anyone have any recommendations? My requirements are 1) downloadable to PC and 2) playable in any video player.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: iTunes? Amazon?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: Amazon doesn't allow PC download, checked with them. Trying iTunes now. It doesn't look like the files are playable in VLC. 
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'm just throwing out guesses, though. :\
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: I've spent 200 dollars so far buying videos on different mediums. FandangoNow doesn't download, and the app doesn't work on my ipad anyways. Vudu downloads but is DRM'd from one end t othe other and requires third party app to play.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: The problem is finding DRM-free digital downloads, which you most likely won't find from reputable sites.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: That's exactly what I'm afraid of. This is why I had no issues pirating the movies before, and I really don't want to spend the time ripping them from disk. Trying to go legal with everything, but they make it a pain in the rear to do so.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cannot you just download torrent and legalize it by buying from some digital provider with DRM ?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: If you're wanting to stay legal, then you're pretty much going to be locked into whatever player they force you to use to watch their content.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You could always do Netflix, but the quality there probably isn't what you're looking for.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: the problem with download from torrents is the monitoring they do. If they get a license warning you get 3 warnings here and they shut your internet off, legal or otherwise. 
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: I have netflix, however, a lot of what I want is not on netflix
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: and again, that's streaming which used data.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use VPN for downloading
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: when you consider the data cost added in, isn't it still cheaper to by a dvd and get it delivered?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You can download in Netflix now. :P
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: dvd is not portable on multiple devices, and I have kids, the last thing I want is to haul dvd's on vacation to get lost/scratched vs load a tablet with 4-5 movies and be fine.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: And yeah, using a VPN will help protect you from those license violations.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Check out tech board for a lifetime license to Ivacy.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: $29.99, can't really be beat, and it's pretty good so far.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: actually i think I just found a solution
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: took my itunes video, ran it through a trial of M4VGear, and it removed the DRM.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: There you go, then.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: how do you turn specific gmcp optons on. when i do a protocol gmcp it only has char on
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: i have mapped 2 portals to prosper island, but everytime i try to get there my plugin use only the lemdagor entrance portal, all 3 portals are in the mapper database, any idea why?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: It's looking for the fastest part to the "first" room of the area, which is going to be the Lem-Dagor portal.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: Fastest path, too.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: but the mobs i need are in prosper island, and i have portals mapped there, aren't they suposed to be the fastest?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: it will use one of the other if you run to a specific room (rooms cp o gq) or after you identify the room for the mob
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ab Domen Tech: By default, the marked first room of Prosper Island is the first room of Sycorax's ship. You can change that by, say, going to the Hotel Royale and doing xset mark there
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ab Domen nods at KitCarson.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinji Tech: ok ty
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: does anyone know of a disarm script?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: so update on the conversion thing, kept the quality, plays just fine. Super happy.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: conversion ?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: conversation from about oh..30-45 minutes ago
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: oh yeah... videos :)
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DmntdDuergar Tech: yeah. The program I found worked very well, so it looks like I found my solution. Buy on iTunes, convert to non DRM format.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I checked that ivacy deal, and there are more lifetime vpn deals on stacksocial
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so hard to choose which one is best
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: IIRC Russia has the law that all network connections have to been logged, so if there is a VPN provider that offers servers in Russia and has "zero log" policy - either their server is not in Russia or they do not really have "zero log", right?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: those cheap lifetime deals on vpn seems to indicate the "lifetime" on vpn may be coming to an end or something
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the per-user cost of operating a vpn is basically 0. Pretty much amount of money is enough to be profitable.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: any amount
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right, still if I have to pay 40$ for PIA or 40$ for lifetime vpn.asia - choice is not so obvious
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: on one hand - lifetime is paid only once, so if all buy lifetime then provider do not get more money
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and to maximize its profits they do not invest in their infrastructure as it costs
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OTOH if that "lifetime" will last over a 1 year then I save 40$ yearly 
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lifetime is paid once per business closure
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what is best bare-metal backup/restore software for linux? dd? dump?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: tar
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: in a script, can I use the Send command to send an pre-created alias?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: A mushclient alias, via Send()? I don't think Send is parsed
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Use Execute() instead if you want it parsed
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demacia Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well then, apparently you do not want to do print(os.date("%r", os.time()) because it'll crash MUSH...
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Interesting.  It looks like any unsupported date option (e.g., "%r" or "%s") will crash mush.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yeah, didn't realize it was unsupported until I tried it. :(
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh well, %I:%M%p it is, then.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Now to write a function for cardinal directions based off degrees.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: hmm any reason why this should not work? DoAfterSpecial (1, "UnloadPlugin(GetPluginID())", sendto.script)
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: ahh nvm I realize my mistake hehe
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bason Tech: anyone know why search and destroy only show me like a couple targets on xcp and not the full list?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: have you killed them already?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bason Tech: no... just cp requested
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bason Tech: shows me 1/11 mobs...
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'm surprised and disappointed there is no inherent math.round function in Lua. :\
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: my mush client wontco nect to aardwolf. says Unable to connect code = 10060
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: i have internet and did resestart already
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: check your firewall settings
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: sounds like your fw may be blocking mushclient
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: aye how do i check that
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: Crowley: function round(num, numDecimalPlaces) local mult = 10^(numDecimalPlaces or 0)  return math.floor(num * mult + 0.5) / mult end
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Pwar: Yeah, I'm just surprised it's not inherently included.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pwar nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: rokshel what version of windows you on?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I'd just go function round(val) if val - math.floor(val) >= 0.5 then return math.ceil(val) else math.floor(val) end end
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: this is strange it is blocked on my laptop and desktop...wth
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: no changes were made
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Do you have a VPN you could use just to test if your ISP is doing something evil?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: no vpn and yes internet working fine
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: is it possible to connect BT headphones to a ps4....i think it's a ps4....
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Pretty sure you can.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: yep, it's a ps4
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Have to go through Bluetooth Devices.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: 10060 is just a connection timeout winsock error
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: And check to see if you can connect. My Vita can.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you might just have no route atm to the server
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: (routers down in between you an aard)
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: man how unlikely is that?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: very likely?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: pretty unlikely if your in the states
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: try opening a windows terminal, and telneting directly into the mud to see if it's a network or client issue
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: he should do a tracert
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: which would show if the route is down :P
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: telnet would also check to see if port is blocked
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I dunno why you guys think it is unlikely a route would go down, if anything happens at your isps first hops even, your route is trashed
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: because he's in the game chatting in tech channel....
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: on his phone or something? or in his client?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: it's most likely client side issue.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You could also try connecting to the IP address directly just in case your ISP's name server is down.  aardwolf.net = 23.111.136.202
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: how is he connected to the mud right now??
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: can also try configuring MUSHclient for other ports.  "also runs on ports 4000, 4010, 4444 and 7777"
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: instead of making random assumptions and throwing 300 instructions at him based on random guesses, you should probably collect more information from him first
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you don't even know how he's connected currently
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: i have updated mush in a long time maybe the old client cant get on
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Any version of mushclient in existence can connect to aardwolf. Some will have more features than others, but they should at least get a connection.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there's a 'clear cached ip' button maybe its got an old ip stored
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if someone else tells him that, does it mean i'm bypassing ignore list?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hehehe
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: yea im on my phone using data not wifi
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: ding ding ding
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: your isp's route to the server is down
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: it will probably fix itself over the next few hours
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: but the wifi does work for everything else
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you can try resetting your home router and cable box
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I understand that
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: on your desktop try "tracert aardmud.org"
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Can you connect to other things on your desktop?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: yes listening to pandora
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: maybe he's got a 120 plugged into a 240?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: i tried changing from port 23 to 7777 it didnt work
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: what do you get from a tracert?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What address are you using to connect?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: tracert aardlf.com got connection until 6 and then said timed out
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Traceroute to aardwolf tends to be useless as at least one of the hops typically found doesn't respond to ICMP but still passes traffic
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: did you let it finish? or did it stop on it's own after the timeout?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: from the cmd line try "telnet 23.111.136.202 23"
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: telnet is not recognized as an internal or externL command
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: "pkgmgr /iu:"TelnetClient""
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: use that to install telnet
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Jesus no, just stop
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You know you can get to Aardwolf via your phone. Tether your PC to your phone, connect via it. If it works, you know your software is fine.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: unfort my phone doesnt tether
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: software should be fine i was just on with laptop at another house
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: but here at home pc desktop and laptop cant connect
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: rokshel, when was the last time you connected to aard from your desktop, on your network?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: can you run "ping aardwolf.net" from the command line?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If it's more than one computer, then I'd say it's definitely your network connection or firewall.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: maybe abelinc suspended net neutrality at your place
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If you can't ping that, try "ping 23.111.136.202".  If that works when the first ping doesn't work, then it's your name server
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: ping aardwold.NET was 100% loss request timed out
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ok, that's great to know.  It's not your client.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: try aardmud.org
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: or an actual IP address, in case you are not able to resolve names
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: request timed out
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: which timed out?  Using the IP address or using aardmud.org?  Sorry...it's hard when several people are offering advice at the same time :p
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: ping aardmud.org request timed out
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ok, try the raw IP address: ping 23.111.136.202
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and what about the IP address?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: i can go to all sites but not aardwolf.com or aardmud.org the route is messed up
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: ayla i pray you fix it now i need to lvl
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failurette Noegel Tech: because aard hates you
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: rokshel, it may do nothing but try: "ipconfig /flushdns"
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: bast plugin keeps spamming error , trigger function "gq_item" not found or had previous error. 
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: how do i get rid of it
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: if it's bast, you want to go to plugins and unload miniwin_gq
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yuna: Are you able to load the plugin?
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Excellent.  Let me know if you have any trouble.  The helpfiles are pretty extensive and give lots of examples to get you started.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: However, if on the github.com/aardurel/aard-plugins page I right-click aard_iventory.xml and choose "Save link as..." I will consistently get a 5.29 mB file. For some reaosn.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: pretty extensive is an understatement on the help files ;D
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: also confirmed mine does the same thing
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: my isps routeis bad i cant reach aardwolf with my pc. im on phones data
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Hmm.  I usually use git to access it.  You may need to use the download button to get the actual file.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: well go to https://github.com/Aardurel/aard-plugins/blob/master/aard_inventory.xml (that's the link you're saving
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I already figured out how to get the "proper" version. Click the link, click the RAW button, save the xml file that's opened.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: it's not actually the xml it's serving you github's viewer of the xml
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: that's where all the extra data is coming from
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yeah, that downloads an html file, not the actual xml plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I hate how unintuitive github is.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Heh, me too :)
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: bast crap did it again on joining a gquest
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: the plugin is disabled even
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If the plugin is disabled, it couldn't do anything.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: gq_item is part of winkle mapper_extender
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: or some of them at least
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: should i just get rid of all the crap plugins
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: i really dont need it telling me there is an eerror after every line coming from the mud
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what version of S&D are you using?  It sounds like an older, buggy one.
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its because a trigger failed, so anything matching will throw that
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: reload mapper extender
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: what trigger
T3/r7/2017-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: just give up on trying to ever do a gquest
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I cannot seem to get "dinv keyword add -insertkeywordhere- rloc -insertnameofbaghere-" to work.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Using the aard inventory plugin.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: When you say it doesn't work, can you be more specific? Do you get an error?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No match found for keyword query: "rloc 2.bag"
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It appears to have a problem with my bags. It only works for 1 of my bags for some insane reason. The rest dinv cannot recognize.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I just did: dinv keyword add collectable rloc 3.bag
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The command only works for onbe of my aard bags. Neither vladia's bag, the aarchaeology collection satchel or my other 2 aard bags will work for this. I even tried dropping the bag it works with so one of my other bags would become the "main" bag it still didn't work o_O. Let me try just switching the items inside of my "main" bag and see if it'll work
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rnnhrr Tech: Haven't been on in a while and found a new portal room. How do I tell mapper that an exit is level locked?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: can right click room in mapper window
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: left click on the room at the mapper window, and change exit level lock
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: or right click. my mouse butts are reversed.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rnnhrr Tech: Got 'em. thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: im so lost on how to get plugins added
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: extract into your mushclient/worlds/plugins folder then ctrl+shift+p click Add and select the appropriate .xml file for the plugin you want to load
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: is there a list of all plugins in one spot ?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: oh :p
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: not really no
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: default is mushDir/worlds/plugins
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but they can be loaded from anywhere
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the plugins dir is just a repository, it does not load all in that dir
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: technically it's the designated mushclient plugins folder, so if anything references GetInfo(60) it points at the plugins folder
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: so if anyone's plugin wants to know where you keep plugins, that's what it thinks
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: eh there's no reason why another plugin would reference that dir against another plugin..  theres GetPluginInfo
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: because it returns the default plugin directory, just because you don't see why someone might use something doesn't mean it's not the right way to do it :P
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i cannot imagine a scenario where another plugin wants to reference yours, requiring that directory, but does not look it up and assumes its default :p
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: then you must be unimaginative :o
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: maybe your own plugin wants to use GetInfo(60) to scan default plugins dir and retrieve info about them
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: info such as?  if its not loaded...  if it is loaded then use GetPluginList and GetPluginInfo
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: unless you want to do some boring reading? :)
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: what folder does it open to to load a plugin when you hit ctrl+shift+p endy
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: GetInfo(60)
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sure but you can navigate, that's moot
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its easier to load if its there, but theres no other technical reason for it
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: that *is* a reason in itself
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: sorry to start a war
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: if you want to make things more confusing for the end users that's just dumb, I can see using a subfolder of plugins but beyond that
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im not saying that
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im saying, average joe actually downloads a plugin to "downloads" in windows then loads from there.  just my assumption i guess
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: someone super organized might copy it to the plugins folder, but i've seen remote desktops where that is not the case about 100% of the time
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: that is an awful mindset to have because if you're not providing proper install directions and they do things like that what happens when their downloads folder gets wiped?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: how do you troubleshoot with someone when they don't even know where they loaded their plugin from
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you're twisting my example.  i'm saying theres no reason it needs to be "there" not it is "good to be in downloads"
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pwar boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: and I'm saying it's best practice to put it in plugins or a subfolder
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ok well best practices are for programmers not users.  good luck teaching all the users.  in reality, scanning the default directory as you suggested has no value.  but i dont want to argue with you man, cause i agree with you to a certain point :)
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: not teaching people where to put there stuff makes it nearly impossible for them to backup all their mush stuff in one go
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: their*
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: you say it has no value but how can you know that for a plugin that hasn't been created?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im saying the directory of plugins, assumed to be the only repository, has no absolute value.  if the user has, say, another directory they store theire requiered or favorite plugins for example.  if a plugin, yet to be made, scans that directory for something valuable and comes up empty because the plugins aren't there, then that plugin sucks :)
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: assumed to be the *default* repository, which it is
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwar Tech: I'm done though :P
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no dude lets duke it out! :P
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pwar rolls his eyes, disgusted.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: what would you guys suggest for a good printer that does not suck a lot of ink
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why ink printer ?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: inkjet is the cheapest type
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: because i may want to print photos or something of color
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: https://www.lifewire.com/best-photo-printers-to-buy-4066817
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i cannot imagine a large difference between ink consumption unless its color only with no black cartridges...do they even make those?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could consider solid ink ones if you print infrequently
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: i dont get what im doing wrong to get plugins loaded
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: Line   42: Attribute name 'data-pjax-transient' not followed by '=' (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: it's a plugin you downloaded ?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: bast zip extracted stuff
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: and winkle search and destroy
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: it gives the same error for all of them , i just downloaded mushclient too
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: so you downloaded he zip from github using the big green button, I suppose... that error usually happen when you download the plugin the wrong way...
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: did not use green button , i left clicked on the file and save as... to desktop , then moved files to the plugin folder
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: that's it :) use the 'clone or download' green button, and choose 'download zip'
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: so use the green button or dont use the green button which is it
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: USE it... when you click it will appear a drop with 2 choices... one of them is 'download zip'
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: same result
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: curious... you sure you override all the xml you downloaded manually with the one you extracted from the zip downloaded from the button ?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: sorry... no clues... in my experience that error only haoppens when you manually download the xmlfiles... 
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: ok , i got rid of all aardwolf files and plugin downloads and started all over , stil having issues , plugins will not work
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: Line 1827: Error parsing script (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what is the easiest way to virtualize working system?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean I have Win 7 , but I'd rather use some linux distro, but somehow I need to virtualize my current environment
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: virtualbox? 
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: you could put everything on a disk and mount it from your virtualized windows
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: but there's no good way to transfer a physical system into a virtualized one
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think that VMware is one of leading solutions, and IIRC I can use if free
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: if you have wmware, then use it. it is much faster compared to virtualbox
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: There are a few solutions for P2V (physical to virtual)
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so I need to reinstall, OK
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for home use if it is not trivial, no point to do such conversion
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: true.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: you'll get thumbs up from me if you forget windows completely :D
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so I can just get some linux distro and then create VM
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I need windows for work and to run mush
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boyboy Tech: Is it possible to dd the physical into a dd image, and then ask vmware to mount the dd image?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: mush runs fine on wine
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: The machine I'm playing from right now was P2V'ed, actually... but it's Linux, and you can do that without any partcularly special tools.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: but running virtual windows will never be as fast
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: vwmare has vCenter Converter, but I doubt that one is free
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: have you picked your linux distro?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, I use Windows for Word and software development, most CPU / memory greedy app is firefox
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so 10-30% lower performance is not a problem
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: either CentOS or Debian
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i am a manjaro guy myself. i used to run arch but it is a real pain to set it up. i use multiple desktops
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: at work we use CentOS/RHEL , but considerin how hard it is to update RHEL based systems Debian is much better
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: yeah, and debian stable is rock solid too!
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: will virtual Windows get access to USB devices? I mean crypto cards reader
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also I remember that in past linux had some problems with suspending system, as I do not turn off my PC but just put it to sleep, that feature is quite important for me
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: never heard of it... perhaps in the past
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, it was maybe 10-20 years ago
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: does Manjaro use systemd ? or is still init based ?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: systemd... but it makes no difference what so ever
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: manjaro is arch based
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Getting much harder to avoid systemd.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: but as far as i am concerned, it could use fresh tomatos for booting. as long as it is booting
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Also of note ... <3 Arch.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: one nice feature of systemd is mount on access feature, except that I prefer init.d, much easier just enter /etc/init.d and restart services
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i am just a linux user. do not know much about sysadmin stuff... i do not webserver configuration at work but this is far-far-far from bootlevel stuff
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OTOH when they introduced LVM I also did not like that approach
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but I still think that accessing /dev/sda3 is much simplier especially if you want to do dd if=/dev/sda3 of=backup_sda3
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: If LVM worked as well as it did on AIX, it would be spectacular.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: I use it for servers, but generally not worthwhile on workstations
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if I want to encrypt hdds then should I use truecrypt or loop encryption?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: my main concern with encrypted hdds is that in case they are stolen or damaged (and need to be returned for warranty replacement) there is no problem with data on such hdd
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: before i invest more money in crap i dont need, anyone have any experience with google wifi (their mesh thing)
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: never heard about it. what does it do?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's not reviewed favorably by https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-wi-fi-mesh-networking-kits/
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: Fiendish, thats what i was looking at too... but most complaints are around the routing function, which is the root of my question... i want to know if i can turn routing off in the latest version and use my own router
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm not even looking at any comments or complaints, just the graphs
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: ahh, yeah
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i am honestly looking at the linksys... but iw anted to talk to someone that had the google first: https://www.linksys.com/us/p/P-WHW0303/
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check whether you can flash it with community firmware
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: does Linux fully support NTFS ?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Most distro's do
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: 0h
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: except when you have to deal with errors on the disk, then linux struggles because it can't run the proper disk check software nativelt
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: when making a regular expression trigger, does the colon require an escape character before it ?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: anything not a-z or 0-9
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and even those you can escape if you wish to
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: how would you denote a variable amount of white space ?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: in regex? \s+
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: zero or one s? zero or more s* one or more s+
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: \s means any whitespace, + means one or more of the preceeding
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: try regex101.com for testing
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: that looks interesting
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok it seems to work in that website, but not in Mush
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: you could try [ ]+
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i'm trying to capture a room name from a direction
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: are you worried about custom exits?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: the text to be captured in this case is "North          : A Comfortable Abode"
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: no, Ylar. Not worried about custom exits
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that the website is checking whether it'll match, not whether it'll capture what you want...
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: how about: "^ (North|East|South|West)\s+\: (.+)$"
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and make sure you have the box checked in MUSHclient telling it that you want to use regular expression matching
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ylar nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would capture lots of spaces
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, sorry, I'm wrong, I was looking at the " " rather than the "\s+\:"
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: yes, I do have regular expression checked
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: I only want it to match on North
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: "^ North\s+\: (.+)$"
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then just change the north|south|etc to just North
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although I can't think of a scenario where that's a good way to write the trig (limited to just North)
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: sweet, that works now :)
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: If one is being done for each direction, I suppose? Might be simpler, in some ways, then triggering on all and conditionally triggering commands
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wouldn't be simpler, because if a particular direction doesn't change, then it's not a maze...if it's not a maze, then you shouldn't be triggering on an exits output anyway
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: I meant versus an if/case block.  We're just guessing, anyway :)
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I just process OnPluginLineReceived lines for that
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: i'm not smart enough to do plugins yet
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plugins make most things hugely simpler
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: just starting out with lua scripts
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your scripts can probably be half the size and twice the efficiency when in a plugin, because you're not screen scraping everything
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so SendNoEcho("exits"), process_flag = 1, then in onpluginlinereceived if process_flag > 0  do if words[1] == "[" then flag = 0 (end), if words[1] == "Obvious" then process_flag = 2 (next lines are exit ones), if flag = 2 then process exit
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: where is a good site to learn plugins ?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: they do not really differ from triggers/aliases
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just look in one of your plugins
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just use OnPluginBroadcast to trigger on GMCP's room.info.exits north equalling 12345...or use OnPluginBroadcast to trigger on GMCP's room.info.num equalling 54321
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using GMCP via OnPluginBroadcast will totally revolutionize lots of what you're currently using triggers for
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but that won't work in partroxis maze
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: neither will triggering only on North ;-)
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I send exits and allow script to examine those exits, then it just shows valid exits
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean I know what room I am like 5775, I also know that I need to use "the wheat fields" exit
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so the plugin just shows me those dirs that contain that exit, then I manually choose which one I should follow
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that way I do not have to remember that while in room "a cave" I should pick "the wheat fields"
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, that's a good way to do that one
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it just filters wrong exits, and shows  Obious exits......: North         : the wheat fields     Up: the wheat fields
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so my alias sets a flag process_exits and send exits command, then processes all lines from Obvious till char "["
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorlos Tech: I updated my mushclient, what file do I need to move over for all my map info from the old client?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: Aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorlos Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish groans loudly.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Fiendish: Can you add a toggle for dynamic group window resizing?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Realizing that not everyone wants this, I'd see it as a toggle. But would love for the group window to resize automatically based on how many members are in the group.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ah.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: up to how big, though?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Suppose you could add a "max amount", too. Otherwise, as big as the number of members in the group.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what would the default columns size be?  what about keeping it on the screen when bigger, or moving it a dir when it shrinks?  i guess i see too many variables to see value in an auto resize group window
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: I do. It's a lot easier to see who needs immediate attention when you can see the entire group rather than trying to figure it out by resizing it.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Useful in epics, at least.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i think sorting by HP would be more valuable, but to each his own.  i just resize/move epic window when it starts and leave an extra row for more joins
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Sorting by hp would then need to be run constantly.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you know, like a year or so ago I heard from someone that someone had made their own super secret private copy of my group plugin customized for epics
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe more than a year
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and I don't remember who it was, but I remember asking them at the time if they would consider sharing it with everyone
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and they said yes and then didn't
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: heh i modified yours, but i dont think it was me
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: shit i put in an option to remove mana/moves before i realized you already had that, which is pretty sad
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oops on profanity :/
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sorting wouldn't be terrible
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Not terrible, just constantly changing. Would be hard to keep track, I think.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes, it could
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i put in sort and a compact mode which slims it down and removes some info
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: compact?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it removed like qtimer tnl and numbers i think, just showed bar
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im looking for it now, forgot about it when i updated mush to 5.02
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: see, people do all these things
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: And nobody contributes the code back
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods at Birdbrain Metria.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'd merge a compact mode toggle that removes lvl/qt/tnl and puts  the name on the same line as the bar
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you submitted a pull request
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i never really thought to submit a change. and i dont remember you being around much back then, or maybe i just didnt realize you were
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i shared it with people and wasnt keeping it a secret or anything, but i didnt put it public because i didnt want to hack up your stuff and re-offer it
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well, if you still have it around somewhere
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: here's how it started, then i resized the title bar to match and 2nd pic shows entire epic group.. https://www.dropbox.com/s/u6vs6z11pr6qk2g/group_comparison.png?dl=0  https://www.dropbox.com/s/wh5n07i2exlw40x/group.PNG?dl=0
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yep i dug it up
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm surprised you kept levels
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: true, but with hp% a full name will still fit
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sure it could be more compact..
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but almost 1/2 was huge difference for epics
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: plus as i said i never even realized you had option to remove mana/moves heheh
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, so for epics, because I've never done them
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is HP the only thing you really care about?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Pretty much.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Pretty much, and really only a few players, the 'tanks'
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: for epics yeah i guess, for normal groups its nice to know when a boat weighs anchor...
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: when a what
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: You'll get some epics like Winds that will target everyone in combat, though.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: I can talk about anchors.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and an afk trigger would be good too, for the non-tanks
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: icefall drains mana. and moves at one point
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "an afk trigger" that does...?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: An afk trigger?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: He's joking.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Fiendish, could you please code Pleiades a sense of humor?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: every time Pleiades faps i laugh like theres no tomorrow
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well i meant when a group member isnt contributing and its obvious by the mana/moves.  believe it or not it wouldnt be the first time someone tagged along without pulling their weight
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I think he fapped out the last remaining braincells
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish comforts A Nimwit Pleiades.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: besides...
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Pleiades, are you jewish?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if not, then he doesn't have the genes for comedy anyway
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: dont go there
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok ok so back to the plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: most certainly not
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish licks A Nimwit Pleiades.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, so HP, but maybe also moves and mana
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sorting, but only maybe
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: it'd be good if the plugin can c 446 every 10 seconds or so
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley slaps A Nimwit Pleiades.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and join late, north, east and west as needed
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Nynego east!
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that seems like unrelated functionality
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yeah, don't listen to him trolling.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Defending his clannies, Rex Daemon Crowley explains A Nimwit Pleiades that maze navigators are not illegal!
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: how do i check which are the preferred fonts for mush so that everything shows up correctly
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: uh
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: pleiades you might want my random gtell plugin.  it also throws in random 446's so people think you're still at the keyboard and giving it your best
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: nice!
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: does it trigger icecool's commands?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: of course
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: and does it join late in the right section?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that's usually why inferno ninnies so fast on the wrong call out
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Limunious: where?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: in the output window
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it could.  nay.  it WILL.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Limunious: Alt+5
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Limunious, any font that is monospaced will work fine.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: pick any monospace font you like
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah don't assume anything other than monospaced
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I use Lucida Console, it's not bad.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: Comic sans, baby.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: i was this one time in another win in epic and they noticed. 
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: i use courier 10pt
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: just one time. once
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: Dina 11pt
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: 14 pt
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: but it doesnt wrap correctly
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: you probably will have to adjust window so lines don't scroll off the top
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Dina don't have an 11pt!
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's a scalable font, just type '11' in the size box..
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: And now that I've tried it, ye gods Dina looks horrifying
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh i swear that failed on me back in the day
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: like for some reason with some of the fonts, like it doesnt always align with the left of my window.  like when looking at room desc
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: like you could change it but it would never get bigger than 9
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh thank goodness, back to Consolas like a civilized person.  my eyes hurt
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I use courier new
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That conversation happened so long ago you're using courier old now
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Dina only looks good at very small sizes
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sorry, I afked to play with the cat
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: cats
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, what were we saying about the group window
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: "Send a pull request"
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes but besides that
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: HP only, sorting?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It really sounds like the epics are such a specialized situation that it needs a separate group monitor, almost
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe maybe not
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's hard to design something to accomodate a group of 30 people
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: From what was being said I was getting the impression they don't actually care about all 30, just the leader and designated tanks
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, so tanks at the top
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: cutting off mana/moves and making it more compact helps a lot, essentially 1/4 the size of default
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: would a pull request for a specific plugin go under fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage ?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: obv one developed by you and in the default package...
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yes, the plugins are not a separate repo
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: either on its own branch  or on the development branch
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok anyone know how to set like my margins, my output window is only allowing like 3 words accord is
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: accord
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: accross
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Alt+5
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Wrap output at column number?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: im on a map no alt.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: it happened soon as i stretched my widow out some
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: no alt button and on a mac.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Game -> Configure -> Output.
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok it was at column 20
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you uncheck that option it'll just wrap at the window width
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: just did that and its still not working.  anything ont he right hand sie
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: or maybe i just resetaard
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Raspberry pi - anyone operating on this?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Operating? You mean mudding?
T3/r7/2017-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Sure
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: is there any way of making the minimap smaller?  not the mapper map but the game map?  i would like the window smaller
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: but still have the map centered
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: not sure i understand which map, but have you tried moving the middle wheel on your mouse?
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: nope no mouse just a pad.  let me try squeezing.  and im talking about the ascii ma that would normally be in game if u typed map 
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: grab the bottom right corner and resize it
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: yea just did that but the map doesnt like recalibrate to actually fit the window
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cap'n Gus Grimvald Tech: no, it doesn't
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i think i know which one, wheel mouse doesnt work on that one but it does on the non ascii one
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you might be able to apply a smaller font
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: that worked!  dropped it to 6
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: how do i find the commands for mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RowBoat Robbo Tech: What kind of letters?
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: is somunication log a pluggin?
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chou Tech: ok thanks!
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hey guys
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: hola
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: Im running windows 10, when i turn on my pc, whether if its sleeping or completely off, it takes long to load, for e.g i turn it on, it loads windows then has a black screen for a minute then it goes to my lock screen
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: any known cause/fix for it?
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems like you're hibernating
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: long boot either is normal fro Win 10 or there is some startup process that take a lot of time to start
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}# Burning Myth Tech: check if you have enough disk space. windows may be trying to install some update, but not enough space, and it goes in circles trying to free it
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: i have 7k atm :D
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: have SSD?
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: do you have a lot of programs kicing off at boot time?
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}# Burning Myth Tech: also if you have cloud account, try to switch to local account and see if it helps
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: i think its SSD :p
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: i have over enough disk space
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: then it doesnt make any sense..
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Win 7 SSD wake up takes 1-2 seconds, when full boot is more like 30-60 second
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: and no, not much programs starting up
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe it is network related? like mounting remote share ?
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: maybe it could be that full boot thing or quick boot maybe?
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: no network related stuff
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}# Burning Myth Tech: i had this black screen problem on wife's laptop, it turned out windows was trying to install updates, and it needed like 10 gig of disk space
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Click Start, type Power Options and select same from the list. Navigate to Choose what the power button does /> Shutdown settings />Turn on fast startup  , save changes
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but start with installing all updates
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I don't know whether Win 10 can do that in single task, or you need several boots to get all updates (like Win 7)
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hmm, updates are installed,  i'll try Trachx quickly
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or maybe you need wait for Win 10 to transfer all your data to MS :P
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hmm, win 10 usually takes 1 boot for me and fast boot is on, guess i have to try to update it to the latest OS
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is somewhat similar to your problem: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-performance/why-does-it-take-windows-10-so-long-to-boot-up/7b2bdfcb-a8c2-4e79-aa5d-fb13bfb59787?auth=1
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: short answer is upgrade to Win 7 :P
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyone is virtualizing Win 7 with Xen ?
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: is there a way, with aardwolf as I know there is with other muds, to assign alt-h to announce hp?
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: with mush, yes
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: can you tell me how? it's a habit that I need that for all the muds I don't have it set for lol
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: altH is occupied i see:)
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: but file>world properties>macros
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: huh? I thought it would override the help thingy
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: thanks.
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: its probably possible somehow. ask fiendish
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: huh. I'll mess with it. LOL if my ignorent of scripting self breaks something I'll learn from it. 
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: and, what should I have an hp macro do? would it be sending a command? I know of no commands other than turning my prompt on and back off again just to glean my hp.
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: report
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: in that case I may just use r instead of h because it reports everything
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: lol or not. maybe one of the f keys
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it depends how complicated you want the script to be
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelia Tech: I really need to learn more
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: what do you guys suggest in terms of a NAS drive that i can also configure for outside use? should i just build a small computer, or is there a decent priced one
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vidkun Tech: Can anyone help me with mushclient?
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ask your question.
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Don't know, since I don't know your question.
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Guess it's not that important.
T3/r7/2017-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: "Trigger function "skillgain" not found or had a previous error."  --- How do i fix it? lol
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: depends on what the error says
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: any idea why S&D GUI's fonts are black on a black background? I reinstalled the GUI script and still the same.
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think that very old S&D had black on black during GQs
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: install it from 'finger starling'
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: I have the latest version, the data is in there, just colored in black and not visible.
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway finger Starling
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: strangely, an old 2 veriosn of the S&D GUI works and I can see the lines in white.
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: got a question about blowtorch
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: my clear button switch between one set of buttons . i deleted the clear set and hsve no idea to get it back
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: How to use mush echo to world instead of aard echo?  Using in a trigger.
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: I use Send() to send commands to Aard. How to have the command not echo in the window?
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: can I get the current room ID in MUSH client's trigger?
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Sure.
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: require 'gmcphelper' print(gmcp("room.info.num"))
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: ah is that works on triggers also? I should set sento to script right?
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valour Tech: Thank you!
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: what am i doing wrong with bast spellup , it seems to have just given up
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: all the spells are in the list but its not auto casting them
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: try bsp resume
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: bsp resume, if nothing, then jsut type bsp and see if something is blocked/disabled maybe
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: or just reinstall the plugin, that magically fixes things for me sometimes
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: says waiting pass without trace 226
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: but i have that removed and forgetskill
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: you did 'bsp srem 226' ?
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: try bsp sr 226
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: did that
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: cast it manually then
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: did it manually and still shows waiting 
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: reinstall the plugin and see if that fixes it
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: i think it uses pass instead of trace to try to cast it
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: ok
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: seems to have done the trick
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: traditional tech support will never die!
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: how to send a command to world, bypass aliases in mush
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Doesn't World already bypass aliases, which require Execute?
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Change the "Send to" to world
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: just typing. not doing another alias
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: \\\Send("say hi")
T3/r7/2017-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Does windows sometimes just randomly turn your computer off to force you to update or whatever?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: Probably.
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zekzaer Tech: any mages use BlowTorch available?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: is there a method to prevent aliases from being tricked by emote?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zekzaer Tech: is there an alias i can set up to auto select my spell target?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: can you define auto select? by default, things should go against your target
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: well, against who you are attacking. so what is auto select and what is target?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: No l in veil
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: No l in veil
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: oops
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: hey all. My A5's screen is not going on, there's sound, the menu and back button goes on but black screen
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: anyone know the issue is
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Is there a method in MUSH to prevent a trigger from being triggered off an emote?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: can trigger off of channels?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: or some other gmcp info?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: w/o giving away my secret, it needs to start with the playername
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: thats fine... but does the info come across a channel?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: no :(
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: damn...
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: then the only thing i can think of is that you have to regex the entire statement
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: In MUSH, can you make an "if" clause where one of the options is doing absolutely nothing? Like if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Execute("Something") elseif GetVariable("thief") == "no" then Execute("nothing") end <--- where the variable "thief" recognizes whether or not I'm currently a thief.
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Why would you need an Execute() call to do nothing?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: why even have that branch if it does nothing?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: just have a plain if with no else or else if
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: If I leave it empty, it produces an error message on use.
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So that I can have things that happen after the if clause that happens regardless of the variable without having to repeat code.
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: just do if <condition> then <action> end
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: did you run this by abelinc, metria?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: With Basts spellup self plugin is the an easy way to pause recasting?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: like sitting?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Click on the Active in the mini-window
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: No sorry, like say I wanted to cancel to get a spellup from someone higher level.
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: THough I guess sitting would work.
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: nevermind. :P
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: bsp pause ?
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: TY
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: google is a bunch of amateurs. always has been, always will be
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yes, I just checekd the stock price of fullblowncelebrity.com vs. google, and you're killing it
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I recently let not-porn.com expire. Celebrity could take that instead.
T3/r7/2017-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Nah, some ass probably gobbled it up as soon as it expired and put it for auction :/
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh. My. F****ng. God. So Mush crashed on me while I was making new triggers. So I bootd it up again and that stupid pop-up was back. So I clicked it and closed the game, so make sure it wouldn't be back and when the client asked if I wanted to save, I said yes. Apparently, that was a huge mistake because what I saved was an empty worlds file and now all of my settings are gone. All. Of. Them. Is there any way to regain them or do I have to spend the next 5 hours rewriting everything from scratch?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: IDK for sure but id get my fingers stretched out really well. lol. That sucks so bad.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: Yeah, unless you made some kind of backups yourself, i suspect not if it overwrote your main world file
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I have a huge problem with MUSH client crashing. It crashed basically once a day.,
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: This also appears to be a huge glitch. The crashed somehow erashed all of my settings. Or when it loaded up my worlds file, it loaded up an empty file and thus I accidentally overwrote everything.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: I just installed the client and updated it.  Been away from aard for a while.  I don't seem to have the gcmp map window, even though the plug in is installed and enabled.  Anyone have a clue on where to turn the map on?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: Well if you do rewrite, Definitely backup all that work if your having consistent crashes
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Just another thing I shouldn't have to do that I'll have to do from now on.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Could someone send tells with the codes for the following things in MUSH: "if variable is X/Y, do A/B" script commands, "setvariable" and "getvariable" commands?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: an try file/plugins/mapper and big mapper should be in there. try to disable the enable them.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: OMG! The crashed fixed ONE thing, though. I can C+P text from other programs into MUSH and from MUSH into other programs now!
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And clicking links works, finally!
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: lol nice
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Watch as both go away once I load up plugins and whatnots.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: godmode is not working for some reason
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: hmm got this messsage when I disabled/enabled gMCP mapper  "Status: Your mapper is active but hidden."
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: looked in the plugin file.. Just has to type mapper show
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I need the codes for "If variable is X/Y, do actions A/B". 
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's the one thing I don't think I'll be able to rewrite from memory.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: I'm just having to rewrite all that myself.  Once i remember it i'll send it to you
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: mapper help all           --> Show the entire list of all mapper commands
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: may try ... mapper help config        --> Commands for configuring the mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if GetVariable("test") == "xx" then Execute("give 1000000 gold endymion") elseif GetVariable("test") == "yy" then Execute("give 10000000 gold endymion") end
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: weird i have a endymion/test replacement sub cause that was supposed to be me
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: lol
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: endymion/test ... yay i removed the substitution
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'm trying to disable F1 as the Help key and oh my god, I hate the fact that my Windows is Swedish. How do you acccess the Windows Mobility Center besides through the run command? Because I don't know what it's called in Swedish so I can't find it.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i just buy a legitimate copy of windows
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It is legitimate. It's in Swedish because I bought my computer in Sweden so I didn't get the choice to get my Windows in English. Microsoft is stupid like that.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: what version of windows?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: f1 is under options in mush
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: under global prefs
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: W10. Apparently it only exists on Laptops, anyway unless I want to muck about with the registy. I need a different way to disable F1 Help.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks, Redryn!
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so if you do Win-I and type 'settings' does it work in swedish version?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Windows Button + I does nothing for me. I think I may have disabled the Windows button.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Like way back because I kept accidentally opening crap I didn't want to open with it.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you should be able to install English language pretty easily
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: try "start menu" and start typing "region"
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if it works the top option will be Region and language settings
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I set English (UK) to standard. Do I have to restart?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I don't want my keyword settings to change, though.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: do you need to add the language too?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: in the middle top there's Country/region
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I clicked to download it. It's isntalling right now.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: below that is Languages
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dunno for sure, just doing some casual research into how to change language in win10
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It finished installing. Did not change the language of my Windows.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Or... it's possible it's failing to download. The Downlod window is this there but if I click it, it'll load for a few seconds and then nothing happens....
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Ugh. Whatever.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: under Languages, I see English (United States) and under that it says Windows display language
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It refuses to download.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if yo go back to start->region, are you able to tell what is middle-center under Languages?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Why do you keep asking the same question when I answered it ages ago? I changed it to English, but the package refuses to download.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: screw you
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Imminent Broud narrows his eyes with a wary look.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dont know why i wasted any time on some stupid jerk who bought a laptop in another country in another language like some stupid ass
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oops mis
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: that is an interesting position considering that the overwhelming majority of electronics are either wholly made in another country or their components are.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: in, not from :/
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i can buy a laptop from korea that is not korean language
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: you are complaining about superficial problems, change the language pack.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: although it did have a korean hair under the numpad enter key which made it squeak
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i deduced this because it was there when i got it and it was shipped from korea
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}{Ordained} Deacon Tech: -tech
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: and, by the way, you are bordering on personal attacked based on country of origin. There are those here who are Korean.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: -tech
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: personal attack how?  do you even read?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ex Machina Anaristos Tech: let's just end the thread and then it won't matter whether I can or not.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So English windows is out because Microsoft sucks as usual. It is possible to have and if expression inside of an if expression in MUSH? Like: if GetVariable("lvl201") == "yes" then Execute("if GetVariable("singlemort") == "yes" then Execute("singlemortleveleq201") elseif GetVariable("singlemort") == "no" then Execute("multimortleveleq201") end") elseif GetVariable("lvl201") == "no" then Execute("if GetVariable("singlemort") == "yes" then Execute("singlemortleveleq") elseif GetVariable("singlemort") == "no" then Execute("multimortleveleq") end
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Apparently the answer is no. I'm getting an error.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: are you using lua
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: using nested ifs is bad practice
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Uh, I think. Does MUSH Aard Client use Lua per default?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I guess I'll create a few extra aliases like last time, then.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: you just have the wrong syntax
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should consider using plugins instead of built-in mush windows for triggers/aliases
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then you can define functions
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What plugins would be good ones?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: I just use a separate lua script file.  Makes it much easier
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: Check out this page.. the first half shows how to setup a script file and link alias/triggers to functions you define
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=6030
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: and then you can look at any lua tutorial online for syntax on how to write those functions
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh great. Apparently loading bast's hunt script breaks the copy+pasting function and clicking on links function.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exiled To Aphelion . o O ( that's what you get for using s&d... )
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: google sharptracker aardwolf , not the best example how you should program, but pretty good start with Lua programming
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It's not S&D.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makoa Tech: bast hunt works with those two components for me
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nvm. Apparently, you can't Copy text or click on links from the Communication Log.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can, right click
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: very nice zhalut
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sorry sir i didnt mean to post to this channel
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: u fired
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling glares at Endymion for a moment before BANNING him from the mud!
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion clutches at his chest and falls over dead.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What's wrong with the following alias (set to mhunt *, regular expression / execute):  SetVariable ("Hunt", "%1")
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It seems to be sending to world instead?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: regexp needs a capture ()
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: like (.)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: and it needs to be set to script, not execute
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (the actual alias is "^mhunt (.*?)$")
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: or (.)(.)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Ugh. 
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What's the lua script for sending to execute?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Execute("") ??
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Ugh. I don't now why it's not working. It used to work. Dunno what I'm doing different. Trying to create an alias that both sets a variable and then calls upon another variable. But I can't get the alias to do both. Either part will fail, depending on if I set it to Script or Execute.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: Send ("STuff") will send Stuff directly to the mud.   Execute ("Stuff") will run Stuff through all your aliases and triggers first
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: not triggers just aliases
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well, triggers don't trigger on command line input
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: This is my current alias: SetVariable("Hunt", "%1")
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: This is my current alias: SetVariable("Hunt", "%1") / Execute("hunt %1")
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: If set to Execute, the setvariable part does not happen. If set to script, the execute part does not happen.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: you use Send(  to send to the mud when using script
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what is the alias string
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'm not trying to send to the mud, I'mt rying to trigger an alias.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: ^mhunt (.*?)$
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: send to script should set a variable and then send hunt %1 to the mud, unless you have another alias on hunt...
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: try Note(  what you are Executing
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes... I have another alias on hunt...
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what does your other alias do
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah that code works with script so you have other problems
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so later, when using mush to navigate it knows that it should not use portal in such room
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Disabling and reenabling bast's autohunt script and restarting the program worked. Bast's autohunt script has problems where it sometimes does not activate for some reason, but this time it was also somehow sent to world instead of execute... I think.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so much high maintenance
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did you not see it's "mountain cyclops'"
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So I've set up triggers to respond to "A/An/The * is here!" when hunting. Is there a way to set up a trigger for mobs whose names don't start with any of those, yet so that it will only trigger on a successful hunt and not, say, someone saying the string on Gossip?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: just install S&D for crying out loud
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: if you use regexp  you can use ^ to make it be at the start of a line (so people can't gossip your alias)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the preview just didnt convince me that there was a parallel universe
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mis
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: This? https://github.com/aardwolf-lunk/WinkleWinkle-Search-And-Destroy-Triple-Pack-Up-To-Date
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nanoc: But the only way to do that that I know of would be to create a trigger that responds to: "^(.*?) is here\!$", which would allow for literally anything to preceede "is here!".
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Do I need the Extender GUI and Mapper Extender or do I just need the Search Destroy 2 xml?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you need neither
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Alright. I'll set it up now. Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Apparently I do? Because this is what happens when I try to initiate "ah": xmapper move 20573 / hunt warrior
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Repeat ad nauseum.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Does Search & Destroy automatically try to open doors?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (It's working now after I installed the 2 other plugins)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: snd uses the mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: including cexits
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: so if you have cexits that 'open north, north', it'll use them
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: aka: No
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Star Wars Tech: you have to set that up yoursef through the mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do I do that?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: welcome to the bot squad, Yuna
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So, basically, whenever I want to add a door for mapper to auto-open, I need to be in the room and input "mapper cexit open X;X"?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Two semi-colons, not one.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And this will make mapper automatically open that door in the future?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: An even easier way to do it is to create an alias to do that, such as 'nopass <direction>' so that when you hit such a door, just do 'nopass <direction>' and bam, handled.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Alrighty, thanks guys. Back to rebuild a billion variables, triggers and aliases...
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Anyone know the code for the following things: Bring MUSH client window to forefront (always on top ON), display a pop-up window, turn always on top off? I had a trigger for that for when it's questing time but the crash wiped it and I have no clue how to rebuild it.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think sendtofront should work: https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?lua=utils.sendtofront
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What would I put within the brackets? MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, that should be enough
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Could you send the word "firefly" to the tech chat?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: firefly
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: "firefly"
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Didn't work.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Set trigger to firefly, and Send(execute) as "utils.sendtofront ("MUSHclient")". Nothing happened when you just sent "firefly" to the chat.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: test: \\\found = utils.sendtofront ("MUSHclient"); Note(found)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That returned "true". Didn't send the MUSHclient window to the front, though.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So... any ideas? The old trigger just set MUSHclient to be on top always and then turned that off afterwards.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh, what fresh Hell is this? autohunt with search and destroy isn't auto-engaging found hunt mobs in combat.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that'd be boting
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: yeah, that will get you nicely nuked... fresh crispy yuna burned to a cinder
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I wasn't a few years ago when I specifically asked about if it was okay for me to set up triggers to engage mobs in battle if I got the message "<hunt mob> is here!". Did that change?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Of course, I wasn't using S&D, but a zMUD script. S&D appears to automatically try to run to the area upon a questr initiation?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: snd doesn't do anything automatically :)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: at least my version
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'm fairly certain I asked an imm to make sure, but when I asked a few years ago, as long as I didn't set up triggers to automatically run to the area, hunt down my mob and kill it, it was fine. Having an autohunt script that I had to manually engage to hunt down a mob was fine. Having triggers that automatically engaged a hunted mob in battle once found was fine. Having a trigger to automatically enter my amulet to go to the Hotel and quest complete upon killing the mob was fine. Having all 3 was fine. Is this no longer true? Or was I given faulty information?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I don't understand. From what you said above, you were specifically told that 'as long as you didn't automatically hunt down mob and kuill it' it was fine.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: so, autohunt followed by autokill is forbidden
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I see no contradictions there :)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: the fact that they are 2 separate triggers doesn't change that, obviously
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No, as long as I didn't set up a process that automatically ran to the quest area, hunted down the quest mob and returned to questor to complete the quest, all with a single command (or to automatically request quests while afk), it was fine.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KitCarson Tech: beside the bot considerations I wouldnt want ah to autoattack the found mob. I, sometimes,  use ah to move throu mazes, or have hunted mob in rooms full of other aggro mobs, and prefer not to add another opponent on sight
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: most scripts NEVER use runto
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: so, if that's your reasoning, trust me: it's wrong :)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: OK... so autokilling is out. Autorecalling/portalling and finishing the quest?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Just don't "auto"
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I have no idea. The rules for whatever doesn't involve fighting/killing are rather grey-area. I wouldn't do it though: i'd use an alias instead, like 'qc' for example, that would get back to questor and quest complete
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Then we're back to why is it okay to have autohunt scripts but not triggers that do a few other things "automatically"? Heck, using the logic of "No auto!", scripts/triggers to automatically recast failed spellups back before the spellup command existed would be botting.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: help botting, second bullet point
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I already have that set up as an alias
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: triggering a recall and quest complete is in help botting
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I really think that is NOT the purpose of that line :)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I think that line means "Don't set up a script to do all of these things with a single command".
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I mean, the context there involves requesting the quest, finding the mob, killing it, AND THEN going to complete the quest
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Because if every single one of those things is illegal, autohnt scripts are out as well.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: for the quest complete part (after the killing) that's rather unclear. but, as I said above, I wouldn't do it
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'll contact Broud.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: if you can start a fight, walk away ad come back later to a handed in quest.. that is botting
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: TIL I botted for years during questing due to faulty information.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I think you misunderstood the question, Shindo. It's like this: can you have a trigger that, when the right message appears after killing a mob, recalls and quest complete?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: so the trigger would fire AFTER the 'return to questor' line appears
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Broud Appears to state that it would be botting. His response was "If the trigger acts upon the kill, that would be botting."
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: oh well, make alias as I suggested above :)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I've had that alias for years. qi, qc, qr, qres.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: I think that falls exactly in the scenario shindo described.  You start a fight and walk away from the keyboard.  You finish killing the mob, your trigger fires.. you walk back to a completed quest
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: and in his opinion thats botting
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: Liber, i said exactly what you did just put it in context
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that would be boting NOT because of quest complete
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that would be boting because leaving while an ongoing fight = boting
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: so really, the quest complete part is just the cream on top of the cake :D
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that as well but the fight ends and with no input from you, you go home and quest complete. hence botting
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: see above: before the fight ends, you're already boting :) are there degrees of boting?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Back to the sendtofront issue. I can't seem to get utils.sendtofront ("MUSHclient") to work.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: actually there are, autohunt, autowhere scripts, mushclient navigation
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that is NOT boting
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: which all rely on automation but are let slide
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: I think the defining line is "If I suddenly had to leave the screen 
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: Would these triggers leave me gaining something without my responding"
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: so a trigger to complete quest = botting.   Runto isn't
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that defining line is crossed when you leave during fight. because you gain exp/gold without being at the keyboard
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: Liber, you are saying that (going linkdead and) leaving while fighting is boting. ("boting" in not an english word)  Leaving while fighting is not necessarily botting.  (depends on whether the triggers are doing anything crucial to gains)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: linkdead is not afk :)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: it doesnt say afk it says unable to respond
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: as being online isn't at the keyboard :)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: being online and afk, while fighting, is botting. that part is clear from the help file
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: I doubt anyone would raise any issues with a linkdead char. it's not like trigger work in that case. but that had nothing to do with the subjects above
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imminent Broud Tech: how would a linkdead char use triggers anyway?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: that's what I said above :p
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: if all triggers are turned off, leaving while fighting is not botting.  (there may be something irl that demands immediate attention)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: Zela: even ideling in an aggro area is botting
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imminent Broud Tech: unless you leave a room with aggro mobs
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: my approach to all these issues: make more aliases, less triggers :)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: idling in an non aggro room is different to idling in an aggro room -- background context
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: idling with low hp in an aggro room of strong mobs with triggers off is soon going to be a cr situation (unless a no-morgue room -- ah, another exception perhaps to mufddy the topic)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: if you want to be a nasty hard-ham-fisted pedantic, state that "turning the head to watch tv is being afk and if you are fighting, then you are (expletives, thunder lightning) ..., so no turning the head from the aardwolf screen" 
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: recently I've talked to hdd recovery guy and he stated that most of damageg hdds he work on are Seagates'
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: a lot of hdds are designed that in case of trouble with heads they just lock heads and drive stops working (but can be unlocked)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: barracudas however work as long as that is possible
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and that ends that they just end with something like that: https://www.cheadledatarecovery.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Failed-HDD.jpg
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: my backup 2TB Seagate ended exactly like that one
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there a reason why you would ever want Expand Variables to be off in MUSH?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: there is a reason in zmud.  In the specific case of loading zsc scripts, a simpler workaround is to load the triggers before the variables exist (are loaded)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But not in MUSH? Then why is it off by default? So annoying to have to keep ticking it for scripts when I can't see a reason why it shouldn't just be ticked by default.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the zmud specific case where the ariable is in text what the trigger is looking for, example like when scanning for obname
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the zmud specific case where the ariable is in text what the trigger is looking for, example like when scanning for obname
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: @variable  @amobname
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: maybe when typing variables to display on tech
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: displaying the "at" sign on channels requires getting past both the zmud clientside and the aardwolf mudside interpreters
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: turning off that option may avoid a lot of unforseen difficulties (like when the mudclient is too helpful)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But who the heck communicates on channels using aliases or triggers?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: in lua can you test one variable against more than one result ie if aa == 1 or 2 or 3 ?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: also lua question, can i check if something is not a key in a list\table?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Hmm... after playing around with resizing the windows in MUSH, my mapper and map mini-windows are no longer centered. Is there any way to fix this?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nvm. It was just Dark Elf Stronghold being weird.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do you end an alias/trigger in MUSH when you want to leave the ending open ended?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there a way to make the PlaySound command play a sound twice? Or do I have to make a custom sound file for that?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: invoke it twice?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Doesn't work.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: 2nd Play overwriters the 1st, apparently.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: look at one off timers tomake it play rwice
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I've already cut it in Sony Vegas to make a new sound file, but for future posterity, how do I introduce a timer?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Anyone know the command with Durel's inventory plugin that gets all items between 2 specified levels (like, say, 100 and 110) out of bags into your main inventory?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: -g
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Anyone with know-hows on tmux?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: is there a way to call an alias inside of an existing alias? like 1 alias to execute a few?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: in mush*
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: Use "send to" -> execute
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: what if there is a combination of commands and aliases?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ParaLogiki Daak Tech: execute runs all the commands through mush if there none it passes to world
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: execute is the highest level, so it will match aliases or commands
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: so it does. Thank you!
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lamora Tech: what is the command for adding a wait timer in a trigger?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: wait(#)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lamora Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: oh. I think that's just for mapper cexit things, I'm not sure though.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: so I might be wrong. hmm.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i can't remember how but basically you make the trigger load a one shot timer withthe commands in the timer for later
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: do you guys know a good single target attack plugin? I use a minwin consider all plugin but it's pretty buggy.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: how would i go about changing spellup to use trace instead of pass as command for pass without trace
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: it just shows You belch and pass out. every time it tries to use the skill
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: if I use the regexp     ^alias (.*) (.*)$    The first capture group is all the arguments except the last one.  The 2nd capture group is just the last word.  Alias This is a test.   Group1 = "This is a"  Group2 = "test"
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: is there a way to reverse that.  so the first group is just hte first word. and the 2nd group is all the reset?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: If you just want to grab a word, you could use ([^ ]+) which would mean at least one (and possibly more) characters that aren't a space
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: that will probably do it
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanoc Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: isnt there a space character, some thing like \s  ?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: np, I use that trick a lot
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: or is it \w for white space
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faelar Tech: Hey all
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: hey
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faelar Tech: I'm using the MushClient for Aardwolf
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faelar Tech: it's not recording the commands in the history for later retrieval.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faelar Tech: must have accidently turned it off
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faelar Tech: how do I turn it back on
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: options - input - command -> Command history
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: it's a number
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faelar Tech: keep command history says 1000
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faelar Tech: maybe I should restart
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faelar Tech: ok, now it's working
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: anyone know how to fix bast_spellup , its using pass instead of trace for pass without trace , every time it spells up i belch
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: yess
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: just made a trigger on you belch and pass out to trace i guess
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: why not simply ask Bast?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: i dont know who bast is
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: a player
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: 'finger bast'
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: bastra ?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: its offline
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: Bast online since : Sat Dec 23 16:55:38 2017
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: get detects
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: alias "pass" to "trace" in mushclient and it will fix that. There is no good way to figure out what word to use for a command, so bast_spellup just uses the first word, and it breaks with that
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: is it sent to world ? execute ?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: world is fine
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: im still getting belch and pass out
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are aliases enabled? look on the aliases page and make sure that "Enable Aliases" is checked
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: yes aliases are enabled
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: all I did was do a new alias, put "pass" in the alias field, "trace" in the send field and used the defaults, it worked
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avarek Tech: i dont know what im doing wrong then , i removed it then made pass for trace with defaults and i still get belch
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: go to https://gist.github.com/endavis/946a4093b1e1938d174f84364206fb3a and copy the data starting with <aliases> and ending with </aliases> and use the paste button on the alias page. See if that works.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: is there a way to mass-unflag norecall/prison rooms with mapper?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: ah, mapper norecall <roomid> false
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: wonder if you could do mapper norecall % false
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: really do not want to try that :p
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: but you did say mass unflag. :p
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: that was in light of the recent mudinfo post
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: youtube proposes videos according to time of day. now it spits my page full of xfm again
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hrm, whats the best way to capture a line and then print it with it's original colors?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: isn't there a copy with color codes plugin?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i want to replace a line of output with my own modified version
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: im talking in a trigger
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: does anyone know how to capture a line with colors in mush so i can print it out again?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you could use my text substitutions plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: hrm, whats that/where do i find more info on it?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: type checkversion
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: r1825
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: update and it'll be there
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: im scared of updating
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: updating breaks things
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mannec is agreeing with that Kobus person again...
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: updating also fixes things. what are you going to do
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: I was scared to update, also. I'd been using mush version 4.70something? but eventually I worked up the courage to do it. it went a lot smoother than I thought it would.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ive seen a lot of people complain about their db being broken after updating in one of these latest versions
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: well I back up my db in three different places, so.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ill try it on a copy and see what happens i guess
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyone complaining that their db is broken after an update has introduced a small problem that we might call user error
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: will the text substitution let me capture colors from a trigger?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: "capture colors from a trigger" is unclear
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: "user error"? :)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: .....
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Byrnatha Tech: a pebkac error. :P
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: no it isnt, read it again
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: we gonna go full Apple here now?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you want an answer to the question from me, please try asking it in a different way
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: users are not happy. they are such errors
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: or you could insist that the question was perfect and I'll just go back to eating corn
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: capture colors using a mushclient trigger
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you can only use styles in script.  you'd need to send to script and have a function in your script file to handle it
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: capture a line including colors from within a mushclient trigger
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: use a mushclient trigger to capture a line including color codes
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: theres 4 different ways
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: any of them hit?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what would you do with the line including color codes?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: because it's not a capture lines with color codes plugin, you see
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's a text substitution plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that's what you suggested when he asked for a way to copy lines w/color from a trigger :p
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's not true
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kobus nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: now you're saying its not what its for rofl
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's what I suggested when he said "i want to replace a line of output with my own modified version"
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: did you read the line before that?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: or the one before that?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I did, did you read the line after the line before it?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you script right kobus?  put it in a script file
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: [30 Dec 23:08:32] Kobus Tech: hrm, whats the best way to capture a line and then print it with it's original colors?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: TriggerStyleRuns.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if all you want to do is convert style runs into aardwolf color codes, then you can use more code that I wrote in aardwolf_colors.lua
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I promise I know more about this subject than anyone else here
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you said you wanted to modify a line. You didn't say what modifications you wanted to make, so I gave you the most general 100% solution.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: it was a multi-line question, you ignored the first line and answered the second
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: selective reading ftw
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: do you really want to antagonize people helping you :p
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I answered the question that said what you want to do, not the other lines that said what you thought you needed to do in order to accomplish it
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Endymion: be quiet
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: it wasnt a "what i thought neeeded to be done" it was the thing i wanted to do
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you said, and I'm quoting here, "i want to replace a line of ouptut with my own modified version"
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: [30 Dec 23:08:32] Kobus Tech: hrm, whats the best way to capture a line and then print it with it's original colors?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i wonder if it's natural, or if it takes a lot of work.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: also quoting there
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: that is the tech line immediately preceeding the one you posted
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: printing a line with its original colors is what mushclient already does for you without any triggering
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: wow...
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: just wow
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Script after omit, and use TSR. It's what I do.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah crowley that's the only way outside of a plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: this will end up being inside of a plugin
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: but where can i find more info on what youre describing?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: inside is easy function(name, line, wildcards, styles)
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Still would use TSR.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: styles is a table of the line text separated by color differences
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i see, so call a script function from the trigger and it will have the style in it?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes as the 4th argument
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: but its a lua table?
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ill have to do some testing then it seems
T3/r7/2017-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thanks for the assistance
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I've set up a trigger in MUSH to auto-recast a certain spell upon failure. It contains a variable. On the 3rd repetition in a row, instead of calling upon the variable, it'll actually call upon the variable name (ariablename) and thus fail. Anyone know what's happening and how to fix it?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: with that information, i can only surmise you have a bug in your code
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Trigger, Send: Script : if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Execute("cast 'reverse align' eversealign") elseif GetVariable("thief") == "no" then Execute("Null") end
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Trigger, Send: Script : if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Execute("cast 'reverse align' @reversealign") elseif GetVariable("thief") == "no" then Execute("Null") end
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Execute("Null") ?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: the if clause is because if I'm a thief, I strangle before casting reverse align. If I'm not a thief, I don't have strangle and it's impossible to recast reverse align upon failure as I'll be in battle. Null is an alias that sets a dummy variable so that nothing really happens.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: alas he refuses to end an if with end and insists on elseif
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: As I couldn't figure out a way to have MUSH do nothing. Leaving it blank returned an error.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: like you were told yesterday, nix the wohle elseif
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if something then do_a_thing end
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I don't remember being told that yesterday. Must've missed it.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you could just if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Execute("cast 'reverse align' @reversealign") end ?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's alright, I mean, as long as it works
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What would the fixed text be? That's the way I was taught to do if clauses in MUSH.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but that probably doesn't solve your problem
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you dont need an elseif, IF theres nothing ELSE to do
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so the problem is a funny one
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Aaah, I see.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Are you sure that it's that trigger/line that is causing the problem?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what is the trigger text, and what is your error messag?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: (i assume your thief variable is set to yes?)
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No message. On the 3rd rep, the trigger sends "cast 'reverse align' @reversealign" instead of what eversealign is set to.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No message. On the 3rd rep, the trigger sends "cast 'reverse align' @reversealign" instead of what @reversealign is set to.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes, it is set to yes.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what is @reversealign set to?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Whatever I cast reverse align to (I've set up an alias that both cast it and sets the variable)
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: (I hate the @ expansion notation for client variables so much)
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what if you replace @reversealign with GetVariable("reversealign")?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what is your alias that sets the variable
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I've removed the elseif now.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish gives a thumbs-up to Summoner Yuna.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How would that even work? if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Execute("cast 'reverse align' GetVariable("reversealign")") end ?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yep
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well no
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: "cast 'reverse align' .."GetVariable("reversealign")
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what redryn just said
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: "cast 'reverse align' "..GetVariable("reversealign")
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sorry misplaced the ..
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah that
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Alright, I'll try that.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'll test it in a few minutes. Questing right now. Thanks for the help, people!
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I will note that we don't yet think this will solve the problem at hand. it's just moving you toward something that uses less xml preprocessing
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but wouldn't be interesting if it did!
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it would be a mushclient bug for sure
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Redryn's question about the alias that sets the variable is important though.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: wouldn't it*
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Yuna ^
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you can process my xml anytime
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient bugs are my favorite kind
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes, yes. I saw that. I still can't figure out what's going on. I'm pretty sure it's successfully repeated the trigger more than 3 times before. My all of a sudden, without fail, on the 3rd rep, it always glitches out.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe something is changing the variable
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: in any case, hopefully the problem magically goes away 
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: magically going away is my favorite bug resolution method
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Uh... getting an error now after changing the trigger. Compile error / World: Aardwolf / Immediate execution / [string "Trigger: "]:1: ')' expected near 'end' (each slash is a line break)
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nvm. IO figured it out. Accidentally left out a ") at the end.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No.. still getting an error message. What's wrong with this code: if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Execute("cast 'reverse align' "..GetVariable("reversealign")") end
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: Execute("cast 'reverse align' "..GetVariable("reversealign"))
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the " already was closed with 'reverse align' "
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Aah, I see.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Well... it's working now. And it just successfully did 3 reps without triggering the glitch. The problem magically went away.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i guess fiendish's troubleshooting is the most magical
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Burn the witch!!!
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: dont feed that ego, its already bloated
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish comforts Kobus.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm glad you got the help you wanted Kobus
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: c*comf fiend
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i got the answers i was asking for, yes
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: I have a plugin for single target attacks called: Aardwolf_Consider_Window. The issue with it since I changed to the latest MushClient version 5.06-pre is that it does not load the X and Y variables from the state file when I start MushClient. It does save all variables in the state file and uses them all except the X and Y position variales.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: with an older MushClient version this works.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the what variables?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: <variable name="mw_aa584807a32cf46af04a1bece3_windowx">1013</variable>
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: <variable name="mw_aa584807a32cf46af04a1bece3_windowy">573</variable>
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ah. window position
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: position X and Y variables
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i have a newer version of the aardwolf consider wonder plugin available
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: window*
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: I would very much appreciate if you could share it Kobus.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zexe: where did your copy of the plugin come from?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: wonders who fiendish is asking
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: it is Blainer's plgin
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: never mind, i can't read
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: I 've been using it for many years
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Zexe: from where?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: its a rather old plugin from the mushclient forums
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i can get a url fiend
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: I do not remember, but I can share with you the current version I am using if you want.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: maybe not... i dont have the link to the mushclient forum post that this originates from
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: this one? https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=9681
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea basically, without my changes
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: yes
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hm. that thread has lots of updates. did the plugin get updated to match the comments?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: so with Kobus' version I get the same behaviour. Does not pick up the position variables from the state file upon client start.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: my version includes all updates in the comments plus my changes
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: so it has to be something from MushClient since on an older MushClient version it works.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: so its just the x/y position of the miniwindow that isnt getting saved across subsequent loads?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: I also deleted the state file, it recreated it with the variables but upon client start it wouldnot pick them.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: it saves them, it just not uses them upon client start.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: when I start mush I find the minwin on the top right corner under my chat window
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yep, the default start position of the miniwindow
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm looking into it
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: looks like older versions of mushclient used mw_aa<pluginid>_windowx and ..._windowy for their startup x/y positions
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I fixed it
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: what is the fix?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: sorry guys with child as well
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm not with child though
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: change windowinfo = movewindow.install (win, 6) to     windowinfo = movewindow.install (win, 6, miniwin.create_absolute_location)
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: k, one sec
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thats it? thats the only instance of movewindow.install that needs changed? :(
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: is there another one? I didn't keep looking
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: oh, i thought there was, maybe there isnt
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: usually movewindow is only installed once
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway, I think that's it
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea my changes didnt include anything with the miniwindow
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: ok so that's in the script?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: zexe, im gonna upload a new version
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: thank you guys so much. OK Kobus
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I've updated the forum post that contains the plugin code
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thanks fien
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1eZHw8dpC_Va0GdgIb7VOSK3S6BF1TRPI
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: might as well update it to that
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i dont have a forum account
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what does it add?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: uhhhh lots?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ah, I see it has a list at the top
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i can write a note
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kobus nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nah, it's ok. I'll add it to the end of the thread
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i didnt want to create an account, also wasnt sure if i was 100% done with it
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: which apparently i wasnt
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://www.mushclient.com/forum/?id=9681&reply=78#reply78
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: nice, thanks for the post fien
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: also my d' key barely works for whatever reason
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: I confirm it loads the position now. You guys are amazing :) Thank you for this.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: hey Kobus, for the same consider_all script, is there a way to remove the attack command being echoed back to the mud? For ex. I use the keypad, I press a key, it says bs <mob name> and sends it to mud and immediatelly under this line it echoes in blue the same bs <mob name>.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: you could if you edit the script
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: sure, tell me which line or lines. Thanks
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: one sec, looking
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: find the part that does Note("bs "...  or it could be print and put -- in front
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: line is 573, should be able to just comment it out
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: probably could comment out 573 and 574
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: add -- to the beginning of both lines
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: will try now
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: lines are ColourTell and ColourNote, change them to --ColourTell and --ColourNote
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: yes, that nicely did it. Thanks you so much.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: fo sho
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i live to serve
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: anyone using Starling's WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender_v1.3.4? Exactlly when I login it executes xset suspend page size and so I get: Xset is not known here, create a new character? [Y/N] : Create new character? [Y/N]
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: do you have the other plugin *search and destroy installed?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: hmm no, will install all 3 and see
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: you need both plugins. you don't need the 3rd, gui, if you dont want it
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: OK all 3 installed, relogging
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: ok now I do not see the executed command at the login but get: --> Suspending paging... if enabled and then from mud: Pagesize is not known here, create a new character? [Y/N] : Create new character? [Y/N]: 
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i dont use s&d or starling's but I haven't heard that about starling's stuff... maybe try nokfah's version while you/starling figure out what's up? she is usually on alot
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: OK thanks Zhalut
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: In MUSH, what is the script version of Send() / Execute(). Is it Script()?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: Execute("string here")
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And that'll still work with script?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that will evaluate the string and send it via client side aliases
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: For example, I want a trigger to initiate the following script: SetVariable("stranglereverse", "no"
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: For example, I want a trigger to initiate the following script: SetVariable("stranglereverse", "no")
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: if you have "send to" set to script, yes 
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But I don't want to make a separate alias for it. I want the trigger to do it.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: set send to to script and then it's all treated as lua
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Problem is that it's inside of an if-clause. So like this: if GetVariable("stranglereverse") == "yes" then WhateverGoesHere("SetVariable("stranglereverse", "no")") end
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: then you are doing it right
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes, but what to put as "WhateverGoesHere"?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: nothing
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: just SetVariable(....
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh, ok. Thanks.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and iirc you could use 0 1 for no yes then test if whatever then SetVariable(...) end
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and then you don't need the == 'yes'
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What's wrong with this code? if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Execute("strangle %1
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What's wrong with this code? if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Execute("strangle %1@w
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Ugh, hold on.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What's wrong with this code? if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Execute("strangle %1[semi-colon]SetVariable("stranglereverse", "yes") elseif GetVariable("thief") == "no" then Execute("cast 'reverse align' %1") end
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (where "[semi-colon]" is an actual semi-colon. Just don't know how to tech MUSH to actually display one)
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: concatinatio. is wrong "strangle "..$1
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: to use semi-colon on a line inmush start the line with semi-colon or use doubles
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh, if it's written lua code like that, you can't use %1?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the %1 isn't the issue it how you join your string
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: Send("bs "..%1)
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: blowtorch uses $ can't remember what mush uses
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: ("strangle "..%1
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: ("strangle "..%1[semi-colon]SetVariable("stranglereverse", "yes") ? Still returning an error. "[string "Alias: "]:1: ')' expected near 'strangle'"
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and remember you can use spell numbers to cast, so Send("c 123 "..%1)
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is my problem that I'm trying to both execute a command and to set a variable (by running a script) in the same command? Do I have to separate the two? Can you even do that? Do BOTH an Execute() and a SetVariable()?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: because to send a command use Send("bs "..%1) 
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you can have a thousand lines of code
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Neither of the two will stop your scripts to continue, so you should be able to do both of them in the same script
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The problem is that I'm trying to get the if-clause to do two things, execute/send a command and set a variable using script. Is that what's screwing up my alias? Because none of your suggestions have fixed it insofar.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: after the then it will execute all the lines of code till an else or end happens
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Send("strangle "..%1"[semi-colongoeshere]SetVariable("stranglereverse", "yes") elseif GetVariable("thief") == "no" then Execute("cast 'reverse align' %1") end
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is still returning the following error: Compile error. [string "Alias: "]:1: ')' expected near 'stranglereverse'
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Before your first semi-colon, you're missing a closing ')'
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Send("strangle "..%1"')'[semi-colongoesherfe]SetVariable("stranglereverse", "yes") elseif GetVariable("thief") == "no" then Execute("cast 'reverse align' %1") end ? Still returning the same error and looks really weird ot me.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Remove the quotes, just use )
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: So that it closes the Send(...
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Send("strangle "..%1")[semi-colongoeshere]SetVariable("stranglereverse", "yes") elseif GetVariable("thief") == "no" then Execute("cast 'reverse align' %1") end still returns the same error. >_>'
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: start in the actual trigger to get it all on new lines. then it will be easier to find the syntax error
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I didn't quite understand that.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: in the text box replace semi-colons with newlines
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: ie hit return\enter
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Changed nothing. I think I can fix it by just setting it to execute and add an alias. Hang on.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Okay, first off, the %1's should be outside the double quotes: Execute("cast 'reverse align' " .. %1)
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the" after %1 is the error now
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Send("strangle ".. %1); SetVariable("stranglereverse", "yes") elseif GetVariable("thief") == "no" then Execute("cast 'reverse align' " .. %1) end
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Also, just use else instead of elseif, since you're checking on the same variable, and only 2 conditions
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: "[string "Alias: "]:1: attempt to concatenate global 'k' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Then your initial variable doesn't have a value (a nil)
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: You mean "thief"? It does. It's set to "yes".
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: ie your trigger isn't catching anything in to %1
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I just changed it to initiate 2 separate aliases. But now I'm getting a different error. So currently the initial alias reads: SetVariable("reversealign", "%1") [line break] if GetVariable("thief") == "yes" then Execute("rev2") else GetVariable("thief") == "no" then Execute("rev3) end
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And I get the following error: [string "Alias: "]:3: unexpected symbol near '=='
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nvm. I fixed it. It finally works. Ugh.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Did you put it inside the double quote? :p
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yeah. I missed the last quote mark while editing. :P
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Awesome. Have a good one
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I had to write, like, 6 aliases and 5 triggers for what is basically 2 functions but now it works. Thanks, you too!
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zexe Tech: doeas anyone have a good envenom script? I mean to unwield, envenom wielded, wield, unwield secon weap, etc
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Oh the joy of having multiple email accounts with Google and using a VPN... You get spammed with text messages and email alerts AND Google App alerts that someone has your password.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: anyone use MuDrammer when on iphone?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auron Tech: anyone use AMD cpus?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I use a quadrapus
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: but yes, I do
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auron Tech: is the amd fx 8350 worth it? or unsure?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: what do you plan on doing with it
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: it works but is so yesterday
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auron Tech: basic gaming, most intense game would be BF1, got the 4350 but i bottlenecks my gpu
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: I'd probably look into Ryzen, if you want to go the AMD route
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: hm. 4560 i think was the sweetest spot cpu
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auron Tech: not looking to spend 175+ at this time, going for a budget build
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: 175 for CPU alone?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: so do you have a motherboard already?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auron Tech: for ryzens
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Full-blown Celebrity Tech: 4560 was as good as i3 for 2x less gold
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auron Tech: already have a mobo, but not for ryzen would need new
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Pleiades Tech: you can probably get a good combo deal through microcenter or newegg
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auron Tech: have am3+ mobo would need a am4 for ryzen
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Auron Tech: just curious about the cpu because i am trying to pick up the 8350 for under 80
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: There's something wrong with my mapper plugin, any tips on how I can figure out what happened/fix it?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: what's wrong with it?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Helps if we know what's wrong with it.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Otherwise, you'll get generic answers.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Try running it on 240 volts instead of 120 volts
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: If that doesn't work, then try downgrading to 12V batteries.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: The map's not updating, and the mob search is giving me an error "Trigger function "xcp_index_line" not found or had a previous error."
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's not the mapper, then.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: that's search and destroy, and if you're running 1.3.4, go redownload it
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That's WinkleWinkle.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: What's wrong with the map, then?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Nothing.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: It's the S&D plugin that's broken.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Wait, you said the map's not updating?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: What do you mean by that?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: I've got a big map that I can use to navigate by clicking on rooms.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: Usually when I move, there's a corresponding change on it that shows where I am.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Are you talking about the graphical map that comes with AardMUSH?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: However, it shows that I'm not moving even when I am, and clicking to navigate from one room to the next gives me a bunch of erre messages.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: Yeah.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: What are the error messages?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: just reinstall the mapper plugin, should be something like aard_GMCP_mapper in the plugin list
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: Run-time error
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: They're all run-time errors.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: hm, interesting
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: reinstall the aard gmcp mapper, then
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: and redownload those s&d plugins as that issue should be fixed
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Have you even tried closing out MUSH and opening it back up?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Still redownload the S&D plugin (or use Starling's if you have an older one), but restart MUSH.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Surely MUSHclient gave you more information than just "Run-time error"
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods at Long Time Fiendish.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Run-time is just the "Check Engine" light, it provides the OBD error, too.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: It did, but trying to copy and paste messed with the formatting and posted most of it to the gossip channel XD
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: pastebin.com
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: Plugin: Aardwolf_GMCP_Mapper (called from world: n)
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: Function/Sub: mapper.mouseup_room called by Plugin Aardwolf_GMCP_Mapper
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: Reason: Executing plugin Aardwolf_GMCP_Mapper sub mapper.mouseup_room
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: no such table: exits
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: pls use pastebin.com
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That no such table: exits... that's a problem.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: your db file is meant for a different version of the plugin probably.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarcastic Tech: So reinstalling the plugin and then restarting MUSHclient should fix it?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: Well, restarting MUSH might fix the mapper issue.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: That's the equivalent of turning it off and turning it back on.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: first thing you always try is turn it off and turn it back on... if that doesn't work then you can panic.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I wonder what ever happened to Sarcastic
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: snarky is the new sarcastic.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rex Daemon Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: He went linkdead, supposedly, and never came back.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mannec grumbles and growls. You wonder what's wrong...
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: hi anyone there? want ask something
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: ask anyway
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You got one question and you just wasted it asking if anyone was here.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: currently i am using iphone Device gonna switch to note 8 , about the whatapps chat history i backup it to my icloud ,so when i switch to note 8 device it able to use it?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: probably not if on icloud
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Definitely not, if on icloud. Back it up to dropbox or something instead.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: my chat history will be gone? if i am switch over to note 8?
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: icloud is apple only
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You should also disable imessage. https://www.imore.com/how-to-disable-deactivate-imessage-iphone-ipad
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rex Daemon Crowley Tech: back it up to dropbox or some other way if you can.
T3/r7/2017-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: how am i supppose to do?