T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: so if i'm spamming spells while i'm in combat and the dude dies, is there a command or something i can tell to mushclient to clear the output buffer or whatever
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: good times
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess you could reconnect, if stack was not already sent to mud
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however it would be best if you have used stack manager
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: cool, i'll look into that
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you stack commands but they are send after previous was received, so you can cancel stack
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: what's shift+ctrl+c for?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: what's shift+ctrl+c for?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: to make your scrollbar shorter :P
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: what's shift+ctrl+c for?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: what's shift+ctrl+c for?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: fking up arrow
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: good times
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: haha sorry i was trying to test and am dumb
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: is stack manager an additional plugin?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I am not sure whethere there is one avail to public
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: got it, thanks again
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can implement your own using "echocommands" - muds sends back command after receiving
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so basically you catch all input that causes delay, then send it to mud after you got mud reply for previous command
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that way you could have a miniwin with current stack 
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you could either cancel stack or prioritize some commands (like c 'heal', c 'diss')
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: hmm in the macros he has send now, replace, and insert
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: would replace kill all the commands in the buffer
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just click help button
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: sorry i was trying to follow your train of thought but it was a bit beyond me, were you suggesting that when the time between the echos decreases to not having a delay it would represent 
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: haha ok my bad
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: thanks, i'll read up
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just test this one: echocommands (to see what commands are sent), then : k exe;k exe;k exe;k exe
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you will notice that you are blocked till last command is sent, and that mud sends "You entered: k exe"
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so in fact there are stacked 4 kill commands, mush sends first to mud, holding 3 to send, server answers (with prompt) and mush sends next command
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so mush buffers your commands but you have no way to manage command queue, right ?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: i'll just do a bunch of reading on my own so i don't annoy you, i'll probably just write some dumb plugin to notice when it says "They aren't here." and then find a way to keep it from sending more
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so if you could create general alias that catches all entered commands in some kind of array, then you could send them after you got server confirmation for processing previous command
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: i'll have to read more about lua if i'm going to be putting all my commands into a stack and popping them after input is recieved and verified that the mob isn't dead
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need miniwin just with button cancel this command / cancel stack
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: good call, thanks
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: fastest way is to hire other person to write such plugin for you
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: nah i'm bored and was a comp sci major, if i can't figure it out i fail at life lol
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could start with sharptracker plugin, pretty simple and dirty, but can be quite good start with scripting
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Just be careful, stacking movement commands then attacks is ban-able
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: cool thanks for the tip, i'll look into it
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: i don't want to make it bot or move around, just tired of getting 15 messages that the mob isnt here after i spam a bunch of attack spells in combat lol
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for miniwins you could check either conw (google: conw mush) or S&D GUI (finger Starling)
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: casting a spell on a target that's not there doesn't cause lag... it's the kill command on a target that doesn't exist that causes the lag
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: i don't think i've ever used kill lol, good thing about being a mage, and not some panzy warrior
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: thanks trachx, i'll look into that too
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: I have an alias that does alpha strike, ki <target>, c <attack_spell> 4 times (overkill at low level yes), but if the casting command doesn't have a target it doesn't cause lag
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: the reason to open with kill is it doesn't have lag if target exists, so the cast is right after
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: i see, that's interesting
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: then since cast has no target if it dies I just get quick no-lag failed to cast since no target
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: I have a room chars miniwindow so I just do: a mob1, a mob2, a mob3, etc
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: my alpha strike glances at room after it does the 4-no target casts
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: You could go the command queue route too, but this is low tech ;p
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: quick and dirty room chars mini window, it's: https://github.com/AardDaak/aardwolf-plugins/blob/master/room_chars.xml
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: so your miniwindow identifies the mobs and makes it so you don't have to type their names?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: No
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: just displays the mobs in room using roomchars tag
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: I do the count in my head and stack my attack alias that many times, like I said low tech
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: ah i see, cool, i'll check out the source, thanks for the help
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: command queues are nice if you want to XP with OPK and you stack commands a lot. I've been killed many times after stacking 10+ casts and a ganker shows up to  send me to the hospital
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: yeah i'm worried i'll spam it on some mob which is way above my pay grade and i'll need to flee or something and won't be able to lol
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Yep, that's another issue
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Or mob is immune to your casting
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: that too would make me sad
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: is fiendish on please
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: as a new mac user i have installed home brew and wine and have the mush app on my desktop but when i open mush and find the ex file i hit enter on it and have tried vo space bar but i get nowhere and i thought i saw a notifcation about wine is not able to work update or something but when i go to the terminal and type wine it says it is up to date so i am clueless on what to do next
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Try terminal, and goto the directory with MUSHclient.exe and do wine MUSHclient.exe this will let you see errors easier
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Hi Dimples.  I use mush via wine on a mac.  I use a script that changes directory to mush and then does "wine ./MUSHclient.exe"
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Heh, what Daak said :P
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: hi now you have lost me completely 
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Also wine outputs errors and info messages to a log file each time it's run, not sure where it is on Mac
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: When is your MUSHClient folder?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Start the terminal app on the mac.  Then "cd [directory where mush is]".  Then run "wine ./MUSHclient.exe".
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: When = Where
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: should let you know i am blind also
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i have mush on my desktop
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: The mush folder is on your desktop or just the mush executable?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: if you unziped the VI MUSHclient to your desktop, then... open terminal, cd ~/Desktop, wine ./MUSHclient.exe
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: cd ~/Desktop/MUSHclient rather
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: just a moment you are going to fast for me
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: can you type what i have to type what i have to type so i can email it to my mac and copy and paste it in the terminal
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: 1) Open terminal, 2) cd ~/Desktop/MUSHclient, 3) wine ./MUSHclient.exe
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Itty Kitty Purr Tech: you don't want the commas though
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: That assumes you unzipped the mushclient zip to your desktop
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: do i have to hit enter after each step
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i think i have because when i open the mush i have all the files there and have to look for the ex file
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Ok, yep, so after opening terminal app: cd ~/Desktop/MUSHclient (press enter) wine ./MUSHclient.exe (press enter)
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: If the client doesn't launch, the output of the terminal window will have some errors that may give clues
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: If it does launch, the client will be in a different window than terminal and you gotta let it continue to run until you close the client
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marthinus Tech: is there a plugin for a tech channel
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marthinus Tech: inventory window*
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: What features are you after?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marthinus Tech: Click to equip or just a general list of what i have
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marthinus Tech: without having to type inv
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast and durel both have inventory management plugins available...I know bast's has a clickable miniwindow, not sure about Durel's offhand
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: I checked Bast's I only saw a miniwindow for equiped items?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Durel's is completely command driven, no window
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's miniwin_eq is for inventory, equipped, and in containers...there's "tabs" at the top to choose which you're looking at
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to http://abelinc.me/bastdocs, click the "+" next to "Bast's Plugins", then click "miniwin_eq"...it'll have a screenshot of the output...note just under the "M" in the top-left corner it has "Worn" highlighted, with Inventory and a few item IDs next to that
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danicron Tech: whats the command for my miniwindow layouts?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to do what with them?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danicron Tech: ive locked them in place and i cant remember how to unlock to move them
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: aard layout unlock
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danicron Tech: ahhh so i was nearly right but i forgot the space 
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danicron Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i now have the mac in front of me so could you please tell me what i have to type in the terminal for wine and mush again and where can i find the tillder on a mac keyboard please
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: cd (press enter) cd Desktop/MUSHclient (press enter) wine MUSHclient.exe (press enter)
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: tilde on a mac keyboard is usually shift and the key above the left tab
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: which slash is it please
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Internet slash, not Windows slash
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: next to . key
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ankier Tech: forward slash.
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: says no such file on waynes macbook
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: mac is a big waste of money!
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what a helpful comment
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i though so too! thanx abelinc for agreeing with me
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: says no such file on waynes macbook
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: or directory
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: try: cd (press enter) cd Desktop (press enter) cd MUSHclient (press enter) wine MUSHclient.exe
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, by default the non-visual version installs into a folder just named MUSH
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also note that MacOS is case sensitive, so the entire word MUSH is in all capitals
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Then Dimples: cd (press enter) cd Desktop (press enter) cd MUSH (press enter) wine MUSHclient.exe
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Then Dimples: cd (press enter) cd Desktop (press enter) cd MUSH (press enter) wine MUSHclient.exe (press enter)
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danicron Tech: i wonder would aard work on a rpi
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danicron Tech: i would imagine it would
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: if you can run minecraft on a raspberry pi, you can run a mudclient.
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danicron Tech: very true 
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danicron Tech: oh god my inner nerd is getting excited thinking of the possibilities
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i get as far as mush  then i hit enter and i am told no such file or directory found
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Did you capitalize "mush"?  It should be "MUSH"
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Did you get no directory found after cd MUSH ?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: something something LUA
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: hang on i will do it  again
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: no just says no file or directory found on macbook
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: how do you know mush is on your desktop?  did you put it there in a folder?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Are you certain you installed mush on the Desktop Dimples?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: when i installed it it just appeared there and when i open it all the files are there
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: What is the name of the folder when you open it?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: should i mive it to the trash and start again
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: no, don't trash it.  just figure out the file path that you have
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: when i open it it says mush client 
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: and mushclient.exe is inside this folder?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: then all the files are there
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: do you think wine is not installed right
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: No, this has nothing to do with wine
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: sounds like a syntax error, like you aren't entering the name of the folder correctly
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: We just need to find the path for where you installed the mush executable.  Then wine will be able to run it
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: and how do i find that out
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: select the file and press command + i to get an info window
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: so just finding the edx file and opening that will not work
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: then there should be a property called "where"
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: to tell you the full path of the file
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: You could also do this: cd (enter) cd Desktop (enter) find . -name MUSHclient.exe (enter)
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: That will give you the path to any MUSHclient.exe file it finds in a folder on your desktop
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i hit command i but did not find where 
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: found it is macintosh users wayne desktop mush client
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Great!  From the terminal, can you cd to that directory?  If so, then go there and type "wine MUSHclient.exe"
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: how would i type thzat
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: ideally with your hands
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: cd (enter) cd Desktop (enter) cd mush (enter) cd client (enter) wine MUSHclient.exe (enter)
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: couldn't he also just right click the .exe and do open with wine?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: mush + wine has issues (at least it used to) if you don't start with mush's directory as your current directory
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: as soon ias i hit enter after mush in caps i get no such file or directory exsists 
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: your directory is mushclient, no? do cd mushclient, not cd mush.  or use tab to autocomplete it
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: do i type mushclient or mush client
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: We don't know what the name of your directory is Dimples.  Is it "mush", "MUSH", "mushclient", "MUSHclient", or something else?  You need to type it exactly as it is on your system.
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: depends on what your directory is called.
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: maybe you can copy the path of the directory
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: if you want to make it simpler, rename the folder on your desktop to mush or something
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: google says you can drag a folder onto terminal and it will print the full path.
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: From your desktop, type this to see the exact path: find . -name MUSHclient.exe
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: any secrets to playing i heart radio so it wont slow aard down
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: file -> open world will probably default to the \world folder of the mushclient install, you can easily get the mushclient path from there
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: the problem is he can't open mushclient without using wine in the first place, which he needs the path for
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: he doesn't know where he installed mushclient? I mean, if he's really incapable of finding the install folder, probably better to just install it again on the desktop or something
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: it is on his desktop.  he's using a screenreader.
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: oh, a screen reader, well then default address for the desktop is c:\users\account name\desktop right, so just cd in and see what's there
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: when i do cd it says wayne,s macbook pro
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: ok what about when you type ls
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: You you're in your "home" folder, typing pwd [enter] should be something like /Users/wayne or something close
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Dimples, you can go ahead it another way, maybe you're more comfortible in Finder app?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: could be issue with " when using whatever commands, as it sounds like there may be a space in the account name
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: sorry for beieng a pain but this is what i am typing i do cd enter  then cd desktop enter then cd MUSHCLIENT.ex is that right
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: no, after you get to the right directory, you just type mushclient
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: on a uk layout where is the tillder key please
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: you're on a mac, right? try shift + key to the left of Z
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: where is the tillder key on a uk layout please
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: you're on a mac, right? try shift + key to the left of Z
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: wow, deja vu
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: he's blind/VI, I think, give him a break :P
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: someone remote assist him!
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: when i do shift and the key to the left of the one key i get vertical line
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: that would be great
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: okay, Dimples, the enter key takes up two rows.  Do shift + the key to the left of enter on the bottom row
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: no that is the @w
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: are you sure that's not the button TWO left of the enter key?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: I'm just going off of the layout I see on wikipedia, unfortunately
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: it is two left of the shift is tillder
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: okay, glad you found it
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: when i do cd~ i get syntax error so what am i doing wrong
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: that's not the right syntax for cd.  You're trying to run mushclient in WINE, right? Did you figure out what folder you installed mushclient to?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Dimples if you're having trouble finding the mushclient folder, go back to where you've been doing all the cd commands and use these commands: 1. CD:\ 2. DIR space /s space mushclient
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: this might take a little bit to run but it should tell you eventually Directory of and then the directory mushclient is installed in
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7wmMZmMinM
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: finger belgahr
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: oops
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i am sorry for being a pain but i still cant get mush to work on the mac here is the command i am using cd~ enter then cd Desktop enter then cdMUSHclient then enter then wine.ex so is that right
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: it's not a pain if you're really having tech issues and want help
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: it's a pain when you get the right answers but keep asking anyways
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: oh i need help 
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: try cd space tilde, there needs to be a space between them
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: and the last command should be: wine MUSHclient.exe
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: right i do cd ~ enter then cd Desktop then enter then MUSHclient then enter then wine.ex then i get file or directory not found
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: what happens when you type only wine
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: the last command should be: wine MUSHclient.exe
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: also make sure you are using the right extension, .exe is 3 letters, e, x, e
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: anybody free that knows about wine and the mac could do a remote session with me please
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omerye Tech: my main window in mushclient resized. how to i unlock it to size it back?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: xset gui?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: where can i find out how i used my name on the mac please
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: "id -un" from terminal
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i still cant get wine to work with mush i am running 3.0 for wine anbd have mush on the desktop but i cant get it to work so if anyone could help with doing a remote connection that would be great
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: kinda disappointed that "echocommand" reports back an aliased command instead of the alias itself
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so if i send "h" and "h" is mud aliased to "c 52" then it says: You entered: c 52
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Ya, since the help echocommands states it echos commands YOU send and you sent "h" after all
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: echocommand is server-side
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: at least theres a workaround - as long as you dont alias 'alias'.
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion nods at (object) Daak.
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there's no work around for comparing what i sent clientside to what i get back mudside :p unless i put my aliases into a table yuck
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: unalias isn't an option?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well sure, im thinking my only option is to export my mud aliases and put them clientside, so that i am "sending c 52" when I "h"
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Making a command queue?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: anyway i'm making a way of tracking/limiting stacked commands
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (object) Daak rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: are you using an alias or something else?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: if so then you can check the "echo alias" box to echo the alias itself
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the echo is mudside
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its not a queue if its all clientside :)
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Even with clientside aliases you'd need to know that "h" => "c 54" though
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: If the echocommand returned "h" you wouldn't though, hmmph
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: exactly on 2nd statement
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Idea board? ;p
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: pfft
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: with clientside, the command sent to mud would be 'c 52' and returned would match
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: using OnPluginSend
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: e.g. clientside "h" aliased to "c 52" shows me im sending "c 52" to mud
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: And multi-line aliases?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Is OnPluginSend called for each line or for the block?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: like "h" = "c heeal;c restore" ?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: good question.. i assume so
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: many clients have the option of displaying outgoing text...
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Ya I guess, if you're making a command queue, likely you'll end up doing that
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: outgoing text displayed doesnt show how stacked up you are at the mud side though mannec
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i can send 20 quaffs and i see them all, but it'll take a minute for them to go thru
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: hmm.
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but if i have the "stack" clientside, then i can choose to dump the stack at will
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: like if pk attacked, return false for the rest of the queue
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: could build a client-side system to cache outgoing commands, and spit them out one at a time... sounds like more work than i want to deal with, tho.
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: yeah, i see what you mean.
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah, really the way to go is using echocommmands
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its great except for mud-alias issue
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: which brings up the question, 'why are you using mudside aliases if you have a robust client?'
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah i just have the old aliases ya know :p
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so i will prolly dump them, make clientside, then make sure i dont make more
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i have two mudside aliases - they exist only to prevent infinite-recursion issues with client-side aliases :p
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i agree with daak though, board ideas -should- be the solution, but i'm not waiting for devs to fix anything :p
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: cause i sent 'h' not 'c 52' meh
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: -:
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth hiccups.
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh and "run 3s" tells me I entered "run 3s" then "s" "s" "s" so its a 4fer1
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i can only assume nobody really uses echocommands lol
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: very rarely! only when I have an issue
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah nothing program related that is, no doubt great for debug
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Heh, still have to enable spells individually with Bast's spellup plugin.
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Endymion, go to your "h" alias and check "echo alias" - do you get the desired echo from your script?
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: this is entirely about "echocommands on" for the mud
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dont want to see a command from the client, i want to see when its processed by the mud
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: well I think the alias is processed client-side, so I don't think there's any way for echocommands to return a raw alias command - i.e. the mud never sees "h"
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no, 'h' is my mud alias
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well it was, i changed it to clientside to avoid the echocommands discrepancies
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Oh, I see, from the alias command not a mushclient alias
T3/r7/2018-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Has anyone ever received this: function: builtin#3, while using tprint?
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: the table prints, but this prints on one of the lines, instead of row data. And there are no rows missing from the output.
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: is it a known bug that changing the icon in global preferences has no effect
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Is there any way to set a different background colour on the miniwindow title bars? I just upgraded Aardclient, and the title bars are greyish with white text on all the built in miniwindows (extra stuff, Bast's miniwindows and the S&D window aren't affected)
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a new "themes" system, although I'm not sure what all aspects are part of it
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: info can be found at https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Miniwindow-Color-Themes
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can try choosing some different included themes to see if there's one you prefer
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by typing "aard theme change"
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Ah, I see. Thank you!
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: I just get "there is no theme within Aardwolf"?
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Okay, found it. The theme controller plugin wasn't installed.
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: This is a really nice feature, btw.
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: first of all i would like to thanks all of the people who tried to help me with my wine and mush problem i think i have found out what was wrong 
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Great!  What ended up being the issue?
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i still have not got it working but on the desktop mush was in a folder and when i found out how to look at the name there was a strange symbol in the middle ot the name
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: but now on the desktop i have a folder named waynes and in the folder is the mushclient so what i need is the commands in terminal to get mush working
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Nice :)  You could do this:  cd (enter) cd Desktop (enter) cd waynes (enter) wine MUSHclient.exe (enter)
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: If you meant there was a directory named "mushclient" inside the "waynes" directory, you would also do this: cd mushclient (enter) before typing the wine command
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: If that doesn't work well enough, I have another suggestion if you're more comfortible in Finder app. 
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: i am not comfortible any where on the mac at the moment
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: does your screenread differeniate capitolized letters, my guess is the folder is MUSHclient (MUSH in cap) not mushclient (mush lowercase)
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: sorry my mac has crashed and i have no speach so cant do nothing at the moment will have to wait for somebody with sight to come
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: hey does anybody host wordpress or know what the hell a FastCGI Error is?
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carlie Tech: i just installed the mush for aardwolf and I am not hearing sounds so how would I turn them on
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Believe the command is spmute.
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carlie Tech: ok i will try to see if that does it thanks
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carlie Tech: thanks that worked
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Do any mobile mud clients use gestures for movement commands? that's my next project...
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: No?
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Might work with Nocilis on Blowtorch, then, though I've never cared for gestures myself.
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Nor do I play from a mobile client. I remote in with Teamviewer.
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Wow, thats heavyweight given the bandwidth of a mud would be inflated a gazillion times for rdc
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: ;)
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: I put the flip actions on the blowtorch buttons kind of like pseduo gestures
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: so my dpad buttons move when pressed and send 'open (dir)' when you press inside a button and release outside the button
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: ahh...
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: sleep/stand, quest request/quest complete,get potion from bag/quaft potion etc
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Good to see you working on it again, Noc.
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: thanks. should be posting a new build soon but the android-19 kitkat emulator is giving me problems.
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh joy, hah.
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: every other one works but that one... do I go forward... does anyone still use kitkat devices?
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: 19?? i think thats less than 2% now
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I'm not supporting <23 myself
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Honestly, I probably wouldn't bother with anything less than Marshmallow.
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: i have been proud of going back to android-8 when i started... its just not worth it anymore and the build tools are inconsistent
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: probably the cutoff then, when you have to support two different code bases!
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: the cheepskates can buy a $20 marshmellow phone now
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: the ndk wont do anything lower than android-14 which is what im going with for now
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: (converted from gbp... i dont know what you can buy in the us)
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: https://fossbytes.com/most-popular-android-versions-always-updated
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: seems i was wrong
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: anyway back to it. this update needs to go out but i gotta run a few more tests.
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: can you just refactor and leave kitkat on an unspported download
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Let me know if you'd allow me to look over it... I'm nosey... lol
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: it is a problem with the emulator i think. and my native libraries that i use. its complaining about the dwarf format and tanks the native libraries taking the application with it
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: i also plan on open sourcing it once I get this build running again and the update out, so you will be able to look all you want.
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Awesome. Can't wait. :)
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: anyone know if it would be easy/difficult to make the mud send only some output (eg. gmcp) in rawcolor?
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: Anyone  use the Aardwolf flash client from the website?
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: I'm getting all garbled fonts on the ascii map
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: try: maptype 0
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: just a thought, never used that though
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: there is stuff about utf8 and the minimap in the mush client
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: Thanks Endymion that worked
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah maptype 0 is straight ascii, no utf
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: Looks really messed up though still
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what font is it?
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: Ok it's better now - on Lucida
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: nods, monospaced font is required
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: any fixed font should work well
T3/r7/2018-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brillig Tech: Makes sense
T3/r7/2018-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparhawk Tech: anyone using Aard MUSH? How do I get the location of the health status bar to save across loads?
T3/r7/2018-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: good day to all
T3/r7/2018-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Ugh, I need a decoder for HTML in Lua. Why can't it have a pre-built one? Or is there one I don't know?
T3/r7/2018-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: hi Crowley
T3/r7/2018-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: https://github.com/TiagoDanin/htmlEntities-for-lua
T3/r7/2018-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley gallantly tips his hat to Dimples.
T3/r7/2018-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I may have to look into that KidZero, but really, need a function I can easily move into MUSH.
T3/r7/2018-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: i don't know how much work it'll be, but it seems possible to put that lua file into client's lua folder and just "require" it in your plugin
T3/r7/2018-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at KidZero.
T3/r7/2018-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh yeah, the Lua file should do nicely.
T3/r7/2018-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Hmm, but it's not working. :\
T3/r7/2018-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Time to go back to the drawing board!
T3/r7/2018-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: now chrome html5 audio is dead on andrid without warning
T3/r7/2018-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: there's a ninja on your tech chan
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: good day all
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: for anyone who uses the mapper extender plugin - how can i update an old area which was renamed? (ie: stonekeep -> relinquished tombs)
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i just wouldnt, since all of the room names will have changed, and there might be other rooms added and the layout might have also changed slightly
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: what do you mean by update
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: youre better off re-exploring the new area
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: well for example, i try doing extender runto and it tells me the area can't be found.  but it has no problem navigating the area once i'm there
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: respell it
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: think theres a command to set first room, xset mark or something like that.
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: yeah i've set that, but it tells me it can't find the path to it
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: that would be aardwolf mapper then, not the extender
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: ah i see
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: try using normal runto
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: yeah normal runto is fine, as that's server side
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that will update the path
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: doesn't seem to work - i'm just 1 up from the area and it still can't find a path :P
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: can just purge the room.
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: delete the exit down by right clicking the room and then move down to update the direction
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: does it have a custom exit in the runto?
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: ah yeah, the area does have a custom exit to enter it, i think
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: this might be the problem... hmm
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: speedwalk area  list those
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Again, purge the first room.
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: ie speedwalk chess
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: ok purged, let's see
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: purged it, went back in, xset marked it as the first room, and still no luck
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: maybe need to set a cexit
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: ah perhaps
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Did you set the custom exit to the new first room?
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: woo worked! looks like it was the cexit the whole time.  thanks all :)
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You cheer Nocilis on and wish him good luck!
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: i can't type fast enough. blowtorch is open source. notes notes notes
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered for about 5 minutes
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: fiendish did you see? on the tech board. new notes
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I saw. I signed up to follow changes on the repo
T3/r7/2018-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: cool. im hoping to direct bug reports and feature requests there
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: laptop that got some water damage, only few keys dont work and wifi does not switch on :P any solutions?
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: opening a laptop was never my thing, but is it wise
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: sadly you need a new motherboard
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: what you describe is circuit damage
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: ouch...
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: but i love my laptop :(
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: wait, only a few keys don't work? Oh, not bad then, but you'll need a new kb controller. I don't know what to do about the wifi.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: motherboard*
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylar Tech: I agree it is likely damage to a board but its premature to say it is definitely a replacement motherboard that is in order
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: you must have turned the laptop on while the water was still in the keys' well :)
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: could you maybe give me a rough price for such a thing/
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: I already took it back, Sylar :)
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: laptop was on while it got wet
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: free under warranty :)
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylar Tech: I see that now. I mistyped. 
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: warranty expired 5 years ago :P
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: well, if the laptop was on, you fried the kb controller, and maybe something else. But you can start by replacing the controller, maybe 120USD
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylar Tech: if the warrenty is expired 5 years ago and it is a laptop then the cost of fixing is likely more than the price of buying a refurb replacement
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: that may very well be true.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gilduran rapidly nods twice at Sylar, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: and buying a new mb wont solve this?
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: amazon has a lot of rebuilt laptops for sale.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: will, it probably will, but it seems like overkill.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: but if in the process you get a better chipset...
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: yeah this laptop is a bit old, maybe not that old but its 8 years
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: 8 years is old for the current pace. They come out with new stuff almost every year. But 8 years is not old enough for it to stop being useful
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: That might as well be 100 years in computer years.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: yeah, I like to upgrade every 2 or 3 years :)
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: but don't pay attention if it works for you. The point is you are getting done what you want, that makes it a good laptop
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: yeah, just for study purposes, nothing else.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: but if you inquire about a new motherboard, you might be able to improve it dramatically at a serious discount.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: do you know how to install motherboards?
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: there are online guides :)
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: i never scratched inside a laptop, only pcs
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: a bit more compact but the idea is the same.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: you need an mb that fits, for one thing.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gilduran rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: you have all the technology at your fingertips online, do some research, both as to the technology and the cost.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: You'll probably need to purchase from the hardware vendor
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: and try to reuse your current hard drive, at least so yu can have a bootable system right away.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: might need a new battery, too, if the system was on when it got wet.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: yeah, maybe. Believe it or not, amazon is where to look for all those parts (not e-bay).
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: damn sorry cant see the logs, minus key doesnt work :P
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: i'll take a look at amazon
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: fortunately i can usb tether my wifi :p
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: I just had the brick from my laptop replaced, got it at a discount from an amazon 3rd party, OEM. Just asked for someone to sell me the part number.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: my mb has a 2gig graphics card and 2x 4gig ram, should i sell it if i get a mb or?
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: they are quite old and about 677 mhz
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: or you can get new chips, they are not that expensive.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: if the memory chips are not damaged, you can transfer them as long as they are correctly socketed.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: sent that to somewhere else :)
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: start by doing some research so you know exactly what you need and how to go about getting it.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: HP Pavilion dv7 Notebook PC
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: there should be a sea of parts for that one.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dillon rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: I think it is HP's best seller.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: and since it is HP, you are almost guranteed 100% you can buy the parts thorough amazon.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: the advantage being aside from getting a good price (maybe) is that the parts are guranteed, if they don't work you send them back and get new ones.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: or get your money back.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: can anyone read this and tell me if it is me or the writer :) http://www.programering.com/a/MDNwYjMwATE.html
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: start reading at Data Acces Object :)
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is some random AI generated text ?
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: you read some of it? It is the weird.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dillon Tech: thanks Anaristos and others who's names i cant see for assisting me :)
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: our pleasure :)
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: chinese translated
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: yeah, very likely.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: chinese GOOGLE translated, more like it :)
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: I like this " in the three layer architecture of classical Chinese" :)
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: good thing I have an idea what the subject matter is :)
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: so a DAO is basically DTG (or whatever, in the classical 3-layer chinese architecture :>)
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: Because of this and the data table one-to-one matching, enabled me to cherish a deep-seated hatred for DAO mode.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: I love this guy :)
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sigian Tech: Does anyone know why my mana doesn't display when I use %m?
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sigian Tech: I have to add letter behind it for it to show
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: client related? form me "prompt %m" is enough to show mana
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sigian Tech: All of the other variables display.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe you need add %c at the end of it, like prompt [%T %h/%Hhp %m/%Mmn %vmv %Xtnl %d] > %c
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sigian Tech: this is what I get [Hp:653/653] [/] [Mv:1178/1178] 
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sigian Tech: that empty space is where mana should be
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sigian Tech: If I add letters, then it works fine
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: can you copy-paste prompt setting? (from config output)
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sigian Tech: [Rep:%T] [Gold:%g] [TNL:%X] [Qt:%q] %c[Hp:%h/%H] [%m/%M] [Mv:%v/%V] 
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: with that setting I get 2 lines: 1: [Rep: ] [Gold:5001040] [TNL:471] [Qt:5]  2nd: [Hp:2387/2387] [2109/2109] [Mv:2717/2717] 
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sigian Tech: I do as well, without the mana
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sigian Tech: I am using CMUD
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: can you use telnet to check whether it works?
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sigian Tech: Sure. Give me a sec.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sigian Tech: got it thanks
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sigian Tech: There is a bug with CMUD
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sigian Tech: http://www.zuggsoft.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=35572
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sigian Tech: Not sure if I can post that or not
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sigian Tech: It's just the topic for the bug. Thanks for the help.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: consider switchint to mush, it is more popular here (according to output of: clients) , also it is still developed
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sigian Tech: What type of scripting does it have?
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: lua is most popular
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are a lot of player scripts for it
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sigian Tech: Thanks. I like to create my own scripts :)
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almorgan Tech: I'm currently having issues with campaign, I can't finish it, last mob is not getting checked of my list
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: That's not likely a tech issue
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: help mobkey
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Almorgan Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: im playing the aard client and have to redownload. aardclient for phones arr not in the playstore
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: blowtorch is one option, note today about how to download beta version
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnN0yiNg Eadric Tech: whats an easy to use client to mud on android? blowtorch?
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Pretty much.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: easy is a relative term
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Not sure if Nocilis updated the Aardwolf RPG version of it, though.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AnN0yiNg Eadric Tech: oooo its working. on blowtorch now
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: the aard rpg listing was delisted because I suck
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Nocilis updated it, yeah.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley comforts Nocilis.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: if you are going to use blowtorch, i suggest the new beta, details in 'board tech;note read 7663'
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Is there a mudside setting to omit some of these blank lines? The Omit_blank_lines.xml seems to be breaking the new fiendishclient.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: Has anyone else had issues with the Omit_Blank_Lines.xml in the new fiendish packages?
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: The same trigger in the client works just fine, not sure why in plugin form it would have such a problem
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tol Tech: why does finger have a newline after each line in it? Shouldn't it be a bit more compact? I at least remember it being so
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: For readability?
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: i see this when i type list at a vendor.   anyoje know why?  its seems to be at all vendors. 
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: "** Missing default start room - 1  warm apple pie"
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Sounds like Starling's S&D script didn't properly terminate on area list.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: ok
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Try typing 'area keyword' and then try 'list' again.
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: ok cool. it works now.  
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2018-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: if i found a plugin that is a .lua file.  how do i go about putting that into mushclient? 
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: plugins are .xml
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: hmm ok
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: a plugin can use a .lua file by importing it, but you need the .xml in the first place.
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: ok thanks.  i came across one. but it only has a lua file and the .png file.   (its a thing to add a series of button i can click to do various commands.)   oh well.  apprecitate the info
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: is there a command to see any owned items someone may have that is on an offline character?
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Pretty sure there is, but also pretty sure it's imm-only
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: huh ok -would it be ok (in your opinion) to ask if any such items exist on a particular character? not what they are etc just *if* they're there
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: or should I just keep quiet
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: If it's yours, and your strongly believe a person has it, why not
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: I just don't remember if m y spouse has anything of mine
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: I'm doing fine without it it's more of a curiosity thing
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: help confiscate
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: ooh thanks
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered briefly
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: so no long questions?
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: and winded answers?
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: right
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Is your first name nick, and does your last name rhyme with cannon?
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Are you sure?
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I'm sure
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Fiendish's first name is Bubba, and he's a trucker from Duluth
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Can tintin++ do colour paste?
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You can type rawcolors, id the rune, toggle it back and paste what you see...
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: There is that. But getting a client that can do it without the manual toggles would help.
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: on the other hand, the toggles can be automated client-side pretty easily.
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It'd probably have to be the terminal that does it.
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hm.
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Maybe I'll try running the client in xterm.
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Although I'm in tmux...
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iamage Tech: I am getting a Compile error on leveling up, "[string "Trigger: currentPlayerLvl_LEVEL"]:212: 'end' expected (to close 'if' at line 45) near '<eof>'"
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iamage Tech: I don't have a trigger called currentPlayerLvl_LEVEL
T3/r7/2018-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iamage Tech: is this error from a plugin?
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyone had experience with logitech speakers? Thinking of getting the z623
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: ive always had logitech speakers.  but just regular ones nothing fancy or expensive.     never had any problems with them. 
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: logitech cannot be trusted to make honest speakers
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: you respond to last night question.  or was there more talk of it recently?
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes. no.
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I can't very well respond to a question before I log in
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: ..... or can you.....
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Sure, if someone texts or emails him the question before he logs in.
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah, next time email me and I'll respond faster
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but like for real, logitech speakers... https://www.reddit.com/r/assholedesign/comments/8fhngf/never_go_full_logitech/
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: lol wow thats messed up
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: I use mudlet and get JSON errors if I don't set rawcolors. (mudlet doesn't like ascii escape in GMCP vars). Anyone know of anything I can do mudside? Client side fix requires putting edits I don't understand in mudlet source.
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: just in gmcp? activate gmcp rawcolors
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I do that for mushclient because I like rawcolors in gmcp better anyway
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: there is a seperate option for rawcolors only in GMCP!?
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yup
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: woot, what do I helpsearch for or what is syntax?
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you ...uhhh....
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: there might not be one?
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: anyway just type protocols gmcp rawcolor
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: at least you caught me online. I have the secret info
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zahir D
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you want to start that with "@ "
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: @ :D -> :D instead of D
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: its working! thanks!
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: any time
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: that really needs a help noggin
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: well maybe not REALLY cos your client is too good
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you can always ask for a new helpfile to be made. there are a few imms who are really responsive to that sort of request
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably on the typos board
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I have a policy of not asking for things for other people 
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but I can suggest that you do it!
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: P00sted
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: in ur naem n all
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: all hail
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Hopefully without tyat atrocious spelling.
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean, praised be
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: that*. wth?
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zahir Tech: tyats nothin
T3/r7/2018-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Wait, I spelled it correctly. It's just the h was upside down. *nod self*
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: i had to bump the display on my laptop from 100% size to 150% size and it totally messed up where everything is on my screen, is there a way to reset the locations of all the plugins to default or something for screen size, or to get my map back if it's like not on the screen any more (i assume it's sitting off to the right of the area i can see)
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: i guess i could just reinstall the client but that seems like a pretty bad workaround
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Gracor: aardreset will do most, if not all, the windows.
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: thanks dude, that'll help a lot when i'm back on my laptop :)
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: though i already reinstalled the game and that worked too haha
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Also, take a look at aard layout help. That'll help in the future.
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, either resetaard or aardreset, I always forget what it is.
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: i'll figure it out 
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh, it's resetaard. :P
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: haha cool
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: is there a string escape character or something i can use to be able to type characters like a semicolon for winking
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Double the semicolon.
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: thanks! :)
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: ;;) is what you want.
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Alternatively, you can start your line with a ;, so ;tech ;) would work, too.
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: nice
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The latter is useful if you're giving speedwalk directions to someone. :p
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylar Tech: Ahh... thats useful to know ;;)
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: i know right? pretty sweet
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Remember, it's Teacher Appreciate Day, so don't forget to appreciate me! *cackle*
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: thank you crowley for getting lucifer back where he belongs, and for helping us to learn cool commands
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylar Tech: **pat* *pat*
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qyx Tech: is there some website with walk-throughs for the mapper plug-in please? I'm a bit lost in all the help files at the moment on here. 
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I know someone gave some pointers for it, but not necessarily a walkthrough.
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: What are you confused about?
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qyx Tech: programming portals and door openings (or other obstacles that block progress) to start with. I was thinking it might be easier to get into it all now as I slowly buildup rather than doing it all in one go later on.
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Doors are easy, as are portals (if you have them)
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: mapper cexit open e;;e
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: For instance, if there's a door to the west, you type: mapper cexit open west;;west
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Always double any semicolons you use.
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qyx Tech: ah okay. I have one portal from the Academy. How do you actually travel to use it? If I'm in an area outside the Academy
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: There are two ways you can set it up.
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: hold it then enter
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The easiest way is to enter, then do the mapper portal command.
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I will advise that you set up an alias for portals, though.
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: I made an alias 'port' that handles my portals, then I just do 'mapper portal port academy' or whatever portal I'm using.  Be at the portal destination while doing this.
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Something like: "port *" to send *get %1 from bag;wear %1;enter;remove %1;put %1 in bag"
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: check out mapper ninja plugin
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But once you enter the portal, to set it, you'd just do: mapper portal <command> (in Starling's case, she'd do: mapper portal port acadmey
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: )
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: makes all thos commands easy
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qyx Tech: ah, okay. I have one alias 'returning' which holds it, enters it and removes it. Yeah, that sounds about right. Ah so I program the map for the exit and then I can use the mapper portal command.
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qyx Tech: ah what is this Ninja plug-in? Where would I get that from?
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qyx Tech: is there a good place to get plug-ins in general?
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: https://github.com/aardwolf-lunk/Mapper-Ninja
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Qyx: Several people make plugins, but they're not all in one place.
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: finger starling, bast, mendaloth for a quick list of plugins
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Usually, you can finger the person to get the site (finger me, for example). Bast, Starling, Durel, and a few others have plugins you can use.
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: crowley likes it when you stick a finger up there
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qyx Tech: ah, okay. Thanks very much to both of you. I will look up these websites as well. This should be enough to get me pottering about for the time being.
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Starling prefers a jackhammer. Only thing large enough.
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Real ninja Starling nods at Mr. Crowley.
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qyx Tech: yes, as any good thelemite should :D
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: anybody else notice that cmud is really slow when typing commands into it?
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: MUSHClient ftw!
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: Not that it matters much to me anymore, I can do everything I could do in cmud and more via lua/mush, but cmud itself is so slow it's almost unuseable anymore.
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: obligatory 'screw you, zugg' here.
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: but yeah, anybody else have super cmud slowness nowadays?
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: anyone have any knowledge of docker clusters?  i am trying to figure out how to keep containers off of a particular node unless they have a certain tag.... i know how to bind a container to a certain node, but i dont want the node to allow unlabeled containers on it
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: I only know how to do this on kubernetes, but i dont want to load kubernetes
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: Azure Container Service!
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa slaps Super Star Pleiades.
T3/r7/2018-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: Is this helpful? https://docs.docker.com/engine/swarm/manage-nodes/#add-or-remove-label-metadata
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I asked on MUSH forums, but maybe someone knows here. Is there a way to get MUSH to display (for my own personal use) something like "<h2>Title</h2>" properly?
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: HTML code, at any rate.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that'd be a nice upgrade to the output window, but im going with not possible
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i mean in its current state i see nothing that implies you could have different font sizes in the output window
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I know MXP is available, but...
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I suppose I could do it in a mini-window. But I suck at those, and there's no real good tutorial on how to make them. *shrug*
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Heh, now trying to figure out if I can set a variable to something like: out = "'yellow', 'green', 'Testing'" and have ColourNote read that. Hmm.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Ugh. So I wrote a calendar script, but I want to put it into a window. However, I also have the current day colored "yellow" so I can see what day it is. But, I don't know how to display a line with that colored number in it while the others are "white". That is, I need to display 06  07  08  09  10  11  12 in the calendar window. I hate windows.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Is there an easy way to do that?
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: And the whites should have been the same, but whatever. It's 4am and I'm tired.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Looks like there is, based on Fiendish's statmon, so I'm going to look through that.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: build the output using.. and add cor codes where needed
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: sorry typing on my tablet is annoyingly aweful
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley comforts Sheriff Shindo.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I just don't understand miniwindows yet.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: In CMUD, it was a breeze. Here, it's like, "What the hell am I supposed to do?"
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: sentence = '9 10 11'..'@Y'..'12'..'@w'..' more stuff'
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: then send sentence to miniwindow
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: you could also do it all at once instead of prebuilding your output, I'm just used to doig it that way from c++
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qyx Tech: I'd like to include commands in my aliases such as mgo (from Ninja map plug-in), but I can't. I can't for the life of me see where to create macros or am I looking for the wrong thing? Also, once I program some portals, will using mgo automatically incorporate them? Thanks.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qyx Tech: nm I found it hiding in configure
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: This is so weird. Despite having the entry put into the table I display in a window, it simply refuses (and loses?) the first element. I attempted to put it as the last element, and it loses that, too.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: incorrect index?
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Though, hmm.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Hah! Trachx, thank you!
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess it is always index or pointer whether app works slow od does not work at all :P
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Huh?
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: no pointers in Lua. What'cha building there Crowley?
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite rubs his hands together in greedy anticipation.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: prolly a bot
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite nods at Super Star Pleiades and says, "I concur." Why didn't you?!
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Anyone scripted a flagged eq parser yet? One that just sac's the eq that's flagged but terrible?
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Assistant Pleia, please take notes and try to find someone to handle my coding requests!
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: Sir, yes Sir
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: my *whimsical requests :)
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I'm a little low on gold... so if you could Cohen this for me
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: that'd be swell!
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: One day I'll figure out (again) how to save the position of a window. As of right now, I'm not having luck. :\
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylar Tech: if you never stop playing you dont have to worry about it
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Who told you my secrets?!
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I never stop playing, but MUSH sometims crashes. :p
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Plus, when the window updates, it goes back to the same position.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylar Tech: I feel your pain. I cant get anything to save in my mushclient but I'm using it in Wine on a macbook so I'm already asking for trouble.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Betabit Tech: I need to reset my password on my main char.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: is there an email account associated with that character
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Betabit Tech: Actually not..
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Betabit Tech: thi/psi/cle, level 149
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Betabit Tech: Is it gone then, forever?
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yep
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Betabit Tech: Too bad.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: If you do not have the email field set and/or do not have other ways to prove your identity, your password will not be reset.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Betabit Tech: Ah darn...
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Betabit Tech: I have posted on the Aardwolf facebook page though, announcing who I am
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: allegedly
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: Anyone have any ideas why my friend channel randomly translates stuff lately?
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It must be the mushrooms you're taking.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i was going to suggest hallucinations as well
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: Steps to reproduce?
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: Im not imagining things...
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: maybe abelinc is playing pranks on you
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: eat mushrooms. wait.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You gasp as you realize what he did.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Seriously though, how do you mean translate?
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: I am so confused
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if you want steps to reproduce, take it to gossip. this is tech channel.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: are you mudding through Alexa or Siri?
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: (Friend) Divic: 'MA!  Fee... unh....'     /"MA!" ---- translates to ---> "MY! " 
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: But only SOME words
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: And Im on my laptop
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: are you running Kali?
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: What is Kali?
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: Kali is Kali
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: maybe you're running kali
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I don't think that should make any difference...
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: Okay, I have no freaking clue what Kali is
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: maybe that's the problem
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: It ONLY happens on my tech channel
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: im running two kalis
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: I mean ftalk
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dun get it. you show what was said but say it was translated to something else
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: And only some words
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: do you have Abelinc on ftalk?
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: What I posted is the EXACT thing I get on my screen
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: or did you wrong him?
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: I copied and pasted
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: did you ask that dude if its what he typed?
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: Its my hubby so yep, I saw his screen
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but how do you know that what you saw on your screen isn't what was said?
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: is that the output you produced, abelinc?
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and are those "A" and "Y" letters normal English, or some funky characters?
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: Normal. Hes using blowtorch and that was exactly what he typed. The MA! and then my client produced the translation to My!
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divic Tech: I typed MA. 
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its a plugin: name="Translate_Friends"
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: So how do I turn it off?
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: It just started today
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: disable the plugin
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: fiendish probably forced it down your throat with aardmush
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: just swallow and ask for more
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: So confused.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: LOL, what.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Illiarana ponders turning back off the tech channel and hiding in her confusion
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: are you saying your new problem is that you dont know how to disable/uninstall a plugin?
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: I have no idea how to do that.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ctrl-shift-p
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to file -> plugins, select "Translate_Friends", and click disable
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: find Translate_Friends
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i wish i had some trans friends
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i dont know tech but thats fu ny
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: Thank you!
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you can also Uninstall it
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: then do file->save world details
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so it doesnt come back next time you start mush
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiarana Tech: Thank you Endymion
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: translate friends has never been loaded automatically
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: people should pay more attention to their own actions
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: but you need.a.los
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: hey Fiendish i cant seems to copy and paste colour with wine
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Rhendadric: ctrl+D?
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: ah
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Just looking at Long Time Fiendish makes you think, "Wow!  What a guy!"
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: got it! thanks
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish takes a break from saving universes to greet his pal Rhendadric.
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: technically you can also control+left-click after highlighting text
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but that's a bit of a hassle
T3/r7/2018-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: nod, control d much easier
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: hmmm, firefox update from 59.0.2 to 60.0. major versions running amok
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: is there a way to send command to mud without it appearing on main screen?
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Turn off command echo
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: I only want it for certain commands, not all.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Then not really
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: ah, ok. thanks
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You could write an alias to manually echo commands you want echo'd, but the client setting is on or off.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: I can look into that. thanks
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley just wrote a Calendar plugin because he was bored. :p
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: https://i.imgur.com/b6r09Fb.png --> look how pretty it is! :p
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: are the days clickable?
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Not yet, though my end goal is to add a "to-do" list so you can click on the days and pull up what you need to do, or any scheduled runs.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: should interface that with the epic run plugin! And remember to give your good friend Frostbite credit for the idea!
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Are you referring to my epic calendar plugin? :p
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: (really need to update that if anyone still posts the runs on the calendars)
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Just know that there was an epic run calendar plugin... not sure who created it.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I was the one who originally created it.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I don't know if anyone's made a different, or better version.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: then it should be REALLY easy to interface with your calendar =P
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Still... I get credit too!
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite flexes his muscles...what a stud!?!
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley smirks at Fatal FrostBite's saying.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: are MSI laptops any good?
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: Crowley: why so much room at the top of the calendar?
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I have no idea. Some of it was borrowed code, and I don't know how to remove that gap at the top.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I've tried changing variables, etc, but nothing seems to affect the top.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what is the line of code that prints May?
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably WindowText something something
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I store it into tables, so the line of code that stores may is: table.insert(styles[1], {color = "springgreen", text = savemont}) -- savemonth = center(mm).
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: sure, but what does the WindowText say
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: maybe you have an extra \n somewhere
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: nah, if it's going into a table, then it's probably just scanning line by line and printing after the next line-height
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Wait, I may have figured it out, but we'll see in just a second, then I'll send it to you.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Nope, didn't change it, heh. Hold on, then.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's the one on the forum, yeah? I can just look there
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yeah, there you go. It's on the forum, heh.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Real ninja Starling Tech: troubleshooting is fun
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok so you've got this line     for _, weeks in ipairs(styles) do  blah blah WindowText, right?
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and right above that line it says?
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yeah, I removed that line in my plugin, the one that says WindowText(... savemonth)
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: And it still has that "header".
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no, go up, not down
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: above for _,weeks in
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you have local y =
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that y is where you start writing
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yeah, you're talking about this line:  WindowText(win, font, savemonth, x, y, 0, 0, ColourNameToRGB("black")) ? That's the one I removed.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh, even more up.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: local y = font_height * 2 + TOP_MARGIN
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: remove the 2
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well, remove the *2
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, damn. That was it all along. Hah.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I recognize this because I do it a lot
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you start at some top coordinate, then you print a line, and every line you print you bump the Y down by the height of a line
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so the next line prints underneath the previous one
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: which is what  y = y + font_height is doing
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Ah, so basically, y is just "start at line y".
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: pixel y, but yes
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: if you look at WindowText(blahblah) it goes "win, font, savemonth, x, y, 0, 0,"
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: win is the miniwindow to draw in, font is the ID of the loaded font to use, savemonth is the string you're writing, and then x,y,0,0 are coordinates
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: x,y are top left, 0,0 are bottom right
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so if you want the text higher you have to nudge that y variable
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the bottom right corner is basically just whether you crop the text or not. It starts drawing at that x,y
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So if I wanted it to start at half the height, it's as simple as font_height/2, then.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Perfect.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: well approximately, since you also have that TOP_MARGIN 
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I stole that from your statmon plugin. *smirk*
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: It's something I do a lot because copying bad code is almost always easier than inventing good code
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: the "telephone" model of info transfer
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The only issue I have now is that it refuses to save position, even after I fixed the typo in OnPluginState. I'm not sure how to get it to stay after reinstall.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: starts with e = mc^2
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: ends up as FREEBIRD!
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: your last comment on the thread says the plugin isn't saving state?
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: whether a plugin saves state is determined by an xml argument in the plugin header
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The plugin has save_state = "y"
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: are you sure about that?
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if i call SaveState() without that, it still saves
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yes, Endy. :p
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i have a status window that does not have save_state="y" however when i call savestate it certainly does
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you're a status window
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i was actually wondering if save_state="y" means it auto saves when setting a variable. but i havent checked
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ur mom
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh that seems to make it save on uninstall or when the world closes
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: erm.. i read that wrong.  i found this though: Prior to version 4.56 a plugin could not save its state by calling this function unless save_state was set as "y" in the plugin header.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion bows deeply.
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: where is my phone
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: a hilarious bug report was just posted against mushclient
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Shoot
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: remediate before abelinc finds out
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: which bug report 
T3/r7/2018-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://mushclient.com/forum/?id=14255&page=999
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: anyone have a problem with the new blowtorch erasing itself?
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i minimized it and it was gone
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: all my buttons!
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WIBBLING Bastra Tech: ok i've got something really weird happening and need someone who knows more about windows who can give me ideas here for some really really odd reason my alt tab seems to not work rather hitting alt tab gives me the menue in a program, not switching windows lol
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WIBBLING Bastra Tech: any ideas how to fix this ?
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: are you sure your "Tab" works ?
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if yes, then just https://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/138894-alt-tab-doesnt-work-anymore.html
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WIBBLING Bastra Tech: it's really odd it worked fine till i rebooted it this evening heh
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WIBBLING Bastra Tech: my setup is really odd but it worked up till i rebooted the host and vm  about an hour or 2 ago i found that post thanks:)
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: anyone ever had this error? Trigger function "xcp_index_line_end" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: you have the latest ver of s%d?
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DR. Cerashor Tech: ok wierd.. now its working again.. :/
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: is there a solution for mushclient going haywire when it isn't closed properly? (e.g. power out, frozen, etc?)
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: What do you mean, going haywire?
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: save a backup, then use that and overwrite the haywire copy when saving a backup the secnod time
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: I just killed the mushclient.exe process and reopened it, no issues
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: Has anyone made a grep for aard yet?
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: whats a grep?
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I just wrote a function to check the contrast ratio between two colors so I can better determine what colors go well together.
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I apparently have no life.
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: stupid me, I went and got an art degree for that
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley comforts Jilted.
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Synthrix Tech: That does sound like a no life thing, but at the same time, a useful tool to have.
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: I regret nothing
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Synthrix.
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ShadowDragon gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Synthrix Tech: So on the one hand, go outside and get some sun tomorrow. On the other, good job on making something I'd actually enjoy.
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: On the first hand, I'm having surgery on my back in a week and a half, so mobility sucks right now. :p
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Synthrix Tech: Well, I'm pretty sure you'll see some light during transit, so I'll accept that.
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The contrast ratio between green and yellow is: 4.78
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Given that contrast ratios are from 1 to 21 (with 21 being the best contrast and 1 being the worst, yellow and green don't mix well together.
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: wish incould remember that
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The contrast ratio between white and black is: 21.00
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: What I may wind up doing is creating a plugin out of it, and allowing the user to select a color they want to contrast again, and returning a descending color chart of what's best for that color.
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: contrast against*
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So if you were to type 'contrast yellow', it'd go through and find the highest values first, etc.
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Ooo, it works.
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Though the colors all seem to run together, since a lot of them are from the same color group.
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: For those interested...
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: https://i.imgur.com/pPF5FhP.png --> That's what the contrast plugin currently outputs.
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Can limit it to show only the top 5, etc.
T3/r7/2018-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: I wonder when nano computers become available how big will the files become.
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley skips a light Fandango.
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: I have an idea for a feature in the game
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean this game? or games in general ?
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: this game
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: negator mincer bitch
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you want to contribute: post to forum ideas / become tester / become area builder
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: dr phil
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: to link an item that you have in your inventory and a command for others to identify that object if they have object read or something
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: post to forum ideas, if you get enough support maybe it will be coded one day
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: okay
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: i got excited
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however I doubt that this feature will get enough support
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: me either
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: neither
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I do not see any use case for that feature that makes it worth coding
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: I guess auction and market is enough
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: especially because you can just "runto ident, ident item" to get full identify
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stiggle nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: just a thought that wasn't up to par :)
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and you can always post output of identify if you want to show that item to other person
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: triggers too
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right, this idea resembles Diablo III eq links
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: first time I seen such feature was in Anarchy Online, 2001. I thought it was a wonderful idea.
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: aha
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stiggle Tech: would you post it then?
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think items there are much more variable
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: most items here are pretty "static", and there is no real choice if you want to make a set
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for example if you're T1 201 - then you just want to get all epic items from all epics
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as they are best in game, in theory there is a chance you will get ( Epic ) piece of eq that is better than any avail item in game
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but as there are no good items on mobs - it requires a lot of luck for enhancement code to add enough stats to existing item
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barely Driven Tech: ahem... A pair of sleeves skinned from an elven guard (291)
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barely Driven Tech: Elven guards WEAR those!
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barely Driven Tech: as their skin.
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: with that all said, if it is not too much work, it would be a nice feature to have here. not everyone knows evry items. such linking feature would allows transfer and sharing of item information, for trade or just showing off, much easier and convenient.
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: crowley, can I get a fresh link to your calendar plugin?
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i probably shouldnt be running 200k pediatric hospitals and 12m deep fryers...
T3/r7/2018-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: And yet not one soul cared.
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: I have an alias "mtr" that should send "mapper thisroom". Suddenly, I just get errors whenever I try to use it. Typing mapper thisroom works, though. Any idea what I did wrong with my alias?
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kogra Tech: send it to execute
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaleya Tech: Ah, there it was! Thanks! Now it works!
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minagmas Tech: How do I change how mush handles the commms?
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't understand what you mean
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minagmas Tech: I want to make the chats only appear in the comms window and not also in the main one
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh ok. right-click on the comm window and look at Echo In Main Window Settings
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minagmas Tech: ahhh.. perfect
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minagmas Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: chats echo off also still works.
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I like to direct people to the menu because then they see all of the options
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minagmas Tech: and I appreciate knowing where the options are too =)
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: When in doubt, right-clicking windows will generally bring up some sort of menu. :)
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minagmas Tech: that's true, but I'm not used to the jargon in mush
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Anyone use Matlab?
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I wish
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Not if I can help it
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: (And I can)
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I did years ago
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Fiendish, pure matlab?
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Have a problem with compiler
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what kind of problem?
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't think I'll be able to help
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I can create a library just fine (jar file, for java). Regular functions work as expected, but when I use parallel computing toolbox, parcluster in particular, I'm getting an error when deployed on Java
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: java.lang.IllegalStateException: An application can only use one MCR component that uses Parallel Computing Toolbox functionality
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe you need something like that: if (myCluster == null) {myCluster = parcluster()
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Ooh I saw that post heh
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Doesn't work, still
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is that error caused by your code or external library?
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I know nothing about matlab though :P
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: My code, specifically where I do "myCluster = parcluster()
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Java points me to that line
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: No worries - I'll take all the help I can get (:
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I even posted on stackoverflow and matlab answers, no response at all
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Other than that one other post, this problem is unprecedented, as far as my google skills are concerned
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it sounds like you have multiple MCR components using parallel computing toolbox functionality, but you're only allowed one
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Yeah sounds like it
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: the other post focused on java, not matlab
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: But that's the only instance in java that I'm calling a matlab function
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: And the line where I'm getting the error on matlab is the first line
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: What's the line in Java that's erroring out? "myCluster = parcluster()
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: is in matlab. I don't know anything about matlab though
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is parcluster some stock matlab function ?
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: It is, yes
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is it possible that it is already created by matlab ?
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: It's the function call in Java, KidZero. The function that I created and exported from matlab
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe if you compile for parallel processing matlab adds some code and you just duplicate what matlab did
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: It could be. I need an instance of it to do a 'createJob', which needs it as a first parameter
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Although I don't think there's a way to get an instance of parcluster, without explicitly creating one
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is it possible that "parcluster" is inscance of parcluster while parcluster() is creating os such instance ?
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so basically: myCluster = parcluster <-- without ()
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I think both are the same in matlab, but I will give it a try
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: https://www.mathworks.com/help/distcomp/parcluster.html <-- documentation here says () is used with a "profile"
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Yeah, I tried all sorts of ways
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so maybe: mycluster = findResource('scheduler','Configuration','local')
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or maybe your licence prohibits using clusters :P
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: The findResource way is deprecated - it was replaced by parcluster('local')
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: No, my license allows me to use clusters. It works when ran on matlab, and the command that tells you if you could, told me I could
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: Suppose the Java class you exported is named as matlabclass, do you call this in your Java code? matlabclass m = new matlabclass()
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: and then: m.doSomething()
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Yes, KidZero
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: And m.doSomething() gets the error
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so maybe: parallel.defaultClusterProfile('local'); , c = parcluster(); 
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Yeah, default is already local
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: But I will try to set it like so in code
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: I suppose you can try this, set the reference to matlabclass as a member in your java class
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: and each time that function is called, you check whether m is null before calling new matlabclass()
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Yeah, same as Trachx suggested
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or maybe it is some problem with debug mode (if matlab has any) - debugger starts one instance and your program starts another ?
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: can you run it outside of matlab? like create exe/jar/???? and then run it ?
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still, that should be documented somewhere
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and it seems that creating cluster is pretty obvious
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Yeah a jar is created, which houses my function
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or you have already created cluster in this session
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean something like global shared object, you've run your program once which created cluster, then as you have not disposed it - it is still in memory, so creating another fails
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: That is interesting
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: I will take a look at it
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: simple test is enough - close matlab, make sure there are no mat**** processes running and start it again
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: That's a good one, too. I will do that
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or restart PC in case it works as service
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: nocilis on?
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: why would aardwolf reset itself when programs are closed on the background
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: of a phone
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: how do i get my buttons back
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: how do i save the new beta buttons in memory
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you're a new beta button
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwwynn Tech: anyone out there using MUSHclient on Mac via wine?
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chawpped Tech: test
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: failed
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chawpped Tech: Anyone know any techy tricks I can use to setup a hotkey to just 'attack' any mob I'm in the room with?
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chawpped Tech: Like take the output from 'con all' and pipe it into a kill command?
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I forget who, but someone once made a plugin like that, a lazy killer.
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But there's no "techy tricks" to it. And it's not foolproof anyway.
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: And doing things like that tned to lead to dangerous lines that shouldn't be crossed.
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: there are AOE spells and skills which is what most people use. Or just fight aggro mobs.
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chawpped Tech: I feel ya.
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: i just sit in the same room for hours
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chawpped Tech: I'm just exploring a lot and I want t keep my fingers on the num pad, but I have to keep moving from keypad, back to home-row any time I want to fight.
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: you should make it so that you can navigate from the home row then
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: hi Fiendish how can i find out which portal to use in the fractured lands to find a bodyguard i know it is a throne room but it does not say which portal to enter
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: That is a good question to ask on the Q/A channel.
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: hi fienfish, just saying hi.
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: hi fan
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: access Q/A with the question and answer keywords
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh yeah, dimples, if you tell people that you're using a screen reader up front they'll probably give you less hassle about helping find stuff
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: ok i will do thanks
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it sounds like throxx is giving directions
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dimples Tech: yes he helped a lot
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's a shame his typing is so poor
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Time Fiendish laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: need help, my kindergRtner has to do a scienc3 fair project
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: the question he submitted was why do stRs explode
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: im at a loss what yo do
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oh wow that's an awesome question
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but probably advanced for kindergarten
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: it is, but its a gifted school so dunno
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: let's see...star explosions at a kindergarten level...
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: he conceptualized algebra to me at the dinner table last month.  hes friggin 5.
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: i didnt even read till i was 6 or do equations until 9
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: he was relieved to read that scientists think our sun isnt big enough to explode.... phew
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it will probably expand until it swallows us though
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so...you know...don't be too relieved
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: i would guess our magnetosphere fisappears before we have yo worry about the sun!
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: the best i got is puttingva water ballon with mentos over a coke bottle and watching it swell and burst
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: any other ideas?
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ok, so, a star is basically just a big ball of fire. it's not chemical oxidation, but it glows because it's really hot and the heat is energy being released by atomic interactions
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but, like, those interactions have a cost. just like how a fire eventually burns itself out because it exhausts all the fuel, a star also exhausts fuel
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and it stops burning hot enough to keep itself big and juicy
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: and no open flame allowed.  not sure if a vflclosed lame (???) 
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: and then all the atoms collapse in on themselves
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but then when they collapse in on themselves they smack into each other really hard which makes an explosion 
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: also for mothers day
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: hexwrote "i love you to the black hole and back".  i didnt have the heart to tell him.
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: awkward?
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: i think everyone was wondering why i was crying laughing at his mothers day card
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Impurifan Tech: kids are great, man
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: plastic surgeons have a cream for that
T3/r7/2018-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: i moved my muchclient files to my computer and i guess cause the screen is smaller.  i dont see my mapper miniwindow.  is there a way i can get it to reset to the middle of the screen or something?
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: err to my laptop i mena
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: type: resetaard
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: cool thanks
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: You can also use layout command to save/restore layouts: aard layout help
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at (object) Daak.
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: aard layout is a better command to get used to.
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: cool, i didnt know that, i will usenit for sure
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Helpful if you dock your laptop often
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If I remember correctly, using aard layout will keep everything where you had it before, but suited for your resolution.
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Now back to drawing clocks.
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Well most things, some plugins don't tie into that command, Bast's don't at least
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Anything that was created by Fiendish, for sure.
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (object) Daak rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: anyone use a plugin called chillkil?  its a plugin that has a graphic with a bunch of button, i guess for playing with the mouse mostly. 
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Or rather, anything Fiendish incorporates is more accurate.
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I don't use it myself.
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Though I think that's what I was telling Chawpped about yesterday.
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: i came across it on a webpage.  but it only has the graphic file. and a LUA file.  but doesnt have a xml file
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Where did you get it from?
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: and was told, you cant load plugins and things without a xml file.  
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, no, but you can still use such things if you have the Lua file.
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: What's the link to the page you found it on?
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: some guy on here. i dont remember who, had a link in his "finger" to his google drive for some continent map, and that one another one in his public google drive. 
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Interesting.
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: i dont have the link on my laptop.  i can send it to you tonight after i get home if you want. 
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Sure, just note it to me if I'm not around.
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: ok will do. 
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Or if you happen to remember the name. :p
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: no i dont remember his name at all.  it was like 2-3 weeks ago.  
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: does mush have something like a fetch() to connect to an api endpoint
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If you can do it Lua, Perl, or VBscript, then you should be able to do it.
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: oh ye I can see threads for lua + rest api
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: shouldn't have searched for mushclient
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If it's webpage related, Fiendish has async for asynchronous gathering of web page data.
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: not gonna be a page but it's probably almost the same concept, I'll checkout his
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: TrEz: there's require("socket"), https = require("ssl.https"), https.request(url), returns page, status, headers, full_status
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Strange thing is I didn't find a library for non-https ;p
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: im pretty sure https.request(url) will do what I need
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: I'll create the api first and then try a couple things, not sure how async works on mush
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: I use it for a IFTT phone notification for quest/gq's
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aimbot TrEz Tech: I should use it to text deathlok every time I do a quest
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: I don't think it can do any authentication though, for my notification I route it through an call to my web server which then sends to IFTT api
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: TrEz, just set it to text him every time you do an action, whether it's kill a mob, talk on a channel, or do a spellup. Blow that phone up with notifications.
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Daak: async.lua handles HTTP and HTTPS, and can push/recieve data. Don't know if you were aware of it. It's how I have Melvin pull data from different APIs.
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Don't even have to worry about locking up MUSH while it does it.
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Oh async would be lovely, I'll look at it.. Can do header authentication too though?
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I'm not sure, haven't delved that far into it.
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But the .lua file for it should have commented documentation on how to use it.
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Daak: If you want an example of using the async stuff, look in the dinv plugin at the "dbot.remote.get()" function.  You pass it an url and it returns the data at the url.  Easy peasy.  
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (object) Daak thanks Old School Durel heartily.
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: is there anyway to make the last command entered stay in the command line and not disapper in the mushclient?
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh, did you want to know how?
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: in the options somewhere? I had a quick look but couldn't find it
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Alt+0, right side, tick Auto-repeat command
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: lol, thanks
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: so much better!
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Eh. I don't like it myself. If you want to repeat commands, use ! instead. Or up arrow, enter.
T3/r7/2018-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: I use the up-arrow then enter but I like when it stays
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: anyone know what the command is with dinv to get all level 71 equipment from a container?
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: anybody work with wordpress?
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley just wrote a functional clock for MUSHclient that currently tells Aardwolf's real gametime (as in what you see with time), as well as displays a "minute" hand that actually moves.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Needs a lot of touch up, but it's functional for the time being: https://i.imgur.com/DoawQrj.png
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beromen Tech: how do I clear mushclient communication log window?
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If you have the version with Tabs, right-click and clear tab.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: right click -> clear tab
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I forget if there's a way otherwise.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beromen Tech: yepp it works, thanks :)
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Masticate: Gotta make sure they have the right version first. ;)
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Bah. I need WindowCircleOp to be able to draw from a center point to a defined radius, not have me enter dimensions for the square it's to fit in. :\
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh well, I know how I'm going to do it anyway.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: radius is half the length of one side
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yes, I'm aware of that. But for my particular case, it's much easier to do WindowClrcleOp(win, 70, 70, 60), where center point is (70, 70) and radius of 60 than what I have to do now.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Which is get the left-most edge, right-most edge, top edge, bottom edge, subtract font width*2 from the edges and font height*2 from the top/bottom.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: All so I can draw a circle within https://i.imgur.com/VNQ5X3r.png <-- that.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: Hi, i'm having a problem with plugins which I know i've had before but can't remember how i fixed it. The example I shall use is the miniwin_moons to track three moons, i'm getting an error of 'cannot open C:/foo/luapath.lua: no such file or directory. Any suggestions where I can find the luapath.lua ?
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, typically, you'd put any lua files in your MUSHclient/lua folder.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: all teh ness files should be in the bast folder
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Some plugins might require it to be in a specific folder, however, such as Bast's.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: don't have a bast folder, but can I just make a luapath.lua file and point there?
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Masticate: You really should stop assuming that people have exactly what you're talking about.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's not helpful when you're wrong in your assumption.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Bupy: As I said, all lua files typically go into the MUSHclient/lua folder (it's in the root of your MUSHclient directory)
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: thanks Crowley
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: I like assumeing :)
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, you know what they say about assumptions.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: checking, but no luapath.lua in the lua folder, can i just make one?
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You don't make a luapath.lua folder.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's looking for your lua file in the /lua folder.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: what i ment is that teh bast zip hass all teh files
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: And you don't know that Bupy's using Bast.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: okay. I'll point the file to that folder.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Is the filename itself luapath.lua?
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Or is it some other name?
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: cannot open C:\users\crossover\Desktop\MUSHclient\worlds\luapath.lua: No such file or directory
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yeah, point it to MUSHClient\lua.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: brilliant, thansk!
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Except there's no luapath.lua file there, either.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Do you /have/ a luapath.lua file anywhere?
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: LOL, i may not have been clear on my origianl problem but i think you see it now crowley (-8
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: (Note, when you download a plugin, you need to make sure you get all components). For instance, if you are using Bast's plugins, make sure you grab all the files from there. His stuff usually relies on a number of other things.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: okay, i'll go back looking
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: thanks crowley
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Now back to making my clock.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: Crowley, that looks like it's working now! thanks!
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Good. :)
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley grumbles and growls. You wonder what's wrong...
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Helps if I actually spell words correctly when writing code.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naughty Neji Tech: ..usually does. try using a Greek question mark :P
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I was trying to figure out why my circle wasn't surrounding my clock properly, and it never changed no matter what I set the variable to... then I realized I misspelled the variable name. :p
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naughty Neji Tech: same thing happend to me when I was in school working on a project. took my like 2 sleepless night to figure out what the hell went wrong.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I'm glad it didn't take me that long.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naughty Neji Tech: I was/is an inexperienced coder. so... dont judge :P
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Tick timer has now been successfully turned into a clock that displays Aard time and gives a visual to how much time is left on the tick timer. It also changes background based on whether it's day or night.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley comforts Naughty Neji.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: so it's now like the blowtorch clock
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: except we have moons as well
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I don't know what the Blowtorch clock looks like.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naughty Neji Tech: damn thats pretty neat. too bad I use a phone client
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley grins evilly.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: https://i.imgur.com/Di1HarC.png --> complete with moving hands.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Soon, I'll add the day/season as well as the damage type for that season.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: Nice!
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I already have the information, just need to add it to the window.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: now that will be awesome
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: check my whois desc for a link to a page with a video of what the blowtorch/aard scripted tick timer looks loke
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: like* betrayed by phone keyboard
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i like the animation of the moons and sun
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: just a pity time isn't available in gmcp
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Sheriff Shindo.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: if you want to look at the scripts my blowtorch/aard plugin repo is here
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: https://github.com/blockda/aardwolf_plugins
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Nocilis.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I see this was 6 years ago, hah.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: and for those open who havent heard, blowtorch is now open source, please log issues at the github repo
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: https://github.com/blockda/BlowTorch
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh, I like that setting sun bit, Nocilis.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: blowtorch had a lot of technical problems around android ice cream sandwich
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i haven't found any new issues on 2.1, thanks for updating it nocilis
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: the plugin system became intensely slow, like unusably slow
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yuck.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: and i got stuck for like 2 years. it worked then it didnt, cycle was painful
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: oh yeah, in the newer v2 blowtorch builds the button window is implemented as a complete reference plugin written in lua
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: it is really intense, does a whole lot like constructs raw android ui object and canvas drawing
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: https://github.com/blockda/button_ex
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: In other words, "Don't try this at home unless you know what you're getting yourself into!"
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: pretty much. now that the core is open source it is kind of moot.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Though I don't use it myself, I know your work has been much appreciated.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: but I learned lua and all about cross compiling stuff for arm cores, so that was cool.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Lua's easy to learn, hard to master.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: the runtime for lua is amazingly small i come from embedded development i was shocked
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: nocilis do i call loadset, for buttons, from a plugin i wrote using SendToServer?
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: ie SendToServer(".loadset default")
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: I think so, that should route outgoing messages through the alias and dot command parser.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i will have to try that, when i get access to a real keyboard again, coding plugins on a tablet is painful
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Sheriff Shindo.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Code on computer, transfer to phone/tablet.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: but i messed with that a little bit im not sure if it still works exactly lile that
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: the default settings load an internal version of the script and if you then load the external plugin the .loadset becomes ambiguous
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: i think it will work i was able to load an auxiliary button set, type "/SendToServer('.loadset default')" into my command bar and it switched the buttons
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: a leading / will execute whatever follows in whatever plugin context called it
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: at least it should. it might execute it in the global context hmmm..
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: useful to know. I'll play with those
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and if i want to call a function from another plugin, that i registered, can i do something similar, ie ah and ht
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: well from commandline that works for ah and ht :-)
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: umm, there is a different function for that. dot commands will probably work but there is more generalized interfaces for calling arbitrary functions inside of other plugins or broadcasting any plugin with the implemented function
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: https://blockda.github.io/btdocs/ is the lua documentation
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: hopefully soon to be the full doxygen of the blowtorch core.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: https://is.gd/oCXJsU -- That's a video that shows the clock in motion.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: (Runs a bit smoother than that, was testing something out)
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: neato, analog clock nice choice
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Thanks. :)
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I may work on a digital version, too, similar to those old style alarm clock digits.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: nocilis, i read the docs but i haven't tried out all the yet, I'll do that asap
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: i gotta get back to working on the yard, ill be in and out
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You flick your whip across his bare back. 
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, our yard is so horrible...we've had a landscaper guy doing it for the last few years...but he got arrested last year for trying to run over his wife...man that inconvenienced me :P
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rurouni Kinjin falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: I can send you anaristos
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: anyone know why mushclient would throw an error about missing functions when they're all named and in the <script> tag in my plugin?
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: usually the error says missing function _or the function had a previous error_...the function probably crashed earlier, so MUSHclient disabled that function until the plugin (or MUSHclient) is reloaded
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: I thought only Fiendish answers Mushclient questions?
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: but i've reloaded both mushclient and plugin, it says i'm missing a script file when I don't have one
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: what does it say exactly?
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: You have not specified a script file name:, followed by a bunch of these, The alias (quaffpot) subroutine named "quaffPots" could not be found.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: as i said, all functions have been defined properly etc
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: can you pastebin the entire error or screenshot/imgur it?
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Wait, it looks like you're trying to include a script file, but you don't have it named.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: yeah but i dont have any intention of using a script file, just the one in the plugin
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: also, https://pastebin.com/ELfBh0Jd going nuclear in 10 minutes
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: enable/disable are simply for bag-related triggers
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: hmm.. there's nothing before that?
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: yeah, nothing else
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirCanada Tech: check your plugins list to see if you have any 'quaff' or 'potion' scripts loaded, try unloading them (if you're not using it anyway)
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: already tried those
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: might be easier to use an external lua file at this point, haha and indeed, use a script reference
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: debugging sucks lol
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: frostpaw: where within the plugin are those functions defined, and how are you trying to call them?
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: script section for defines, and calling them from aliases and triggers
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It sounds like there's a line trying to call a script file, but since it doesn't exist, it doesn't send anything else.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the aliases and triggers, are you using script="MyFuncHere"? If so, try instead doing it as <send>MyFuncHere()</send>, with the send_to=12
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: yeh, maybe that'll work
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: now it brings up new errors hm
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It shouldn't matter how it was done, though. That requires changing the functions up a bit due to how script works with alias/triggers.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yep, that's what coding's all about...fix error 32 to see what error 33 will be ;-)
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: function from script would be: function myfunction(name, line, args). Since you're no longer grabbing it via script, would have to change that.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the script part is expecting it to be in a script file...for plugins, you should be using them as I described
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That's false.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: WHen it's under script="myfunction", it looks for it to be defined under the <script> tags.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It doesn't need a script file at all.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: As song as you send_to="12".
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: long*
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: No, you don't even need to send_to="12"
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send_to 12 is for the <send>, not for the script=
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but I'll go with the helpfile...Script: Which script routine to call in your script file.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anything else and you simply got lucky if yours works. I'll stick to how you're actually supposed to use it
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I'll go with experience, having written multiple plugins with the exact syntax Frostpaw is using.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then tell him why his isn't working ;-)
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Documents > Experience
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Also, it's what Nick has stated to use.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: As well as Fiendish.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: As much as we all know I'd love to argue with Abe, I agree with him. Do what the documentation says. Period.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New'97Wing Abelinc seriously questions your use of the term "stated to use"...
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, neither of you actively use MUSHclient, so... 
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: While that's true, doesn't change the fact. Documentation > All.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: he's got a point :P
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's where both new and experienced users go. Don't use anecdotal usages, use the manual.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger strongly suggests you all rtfm.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yet I've written dozens of plugins which all work as documented :-)
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I've also written dozens of plugins for MUSH :P
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: As have I.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: We don't have to use the application daily to be experienced as well :P
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: as have I.. oh wait.. I just wanted to belong :P
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If you actually read, it talks about the script file for scripts that are not in plugins.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're working on it, frosty :-)
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well at least you're in good hands, Frost :P
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: What's in between <script> and </script> is essentially the script file.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: but seriously, do what the documentation does, not what others do (unless it's so much better it gets put into the documentation)
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Which is part of the plugin.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: no...it's not
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That's just false
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Bullshit, Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Unless you want to say Nick's been doing it wrong all these years.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's a on-off execution, it's not the script file because you can't directly call the function via it's name.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: one*-off
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it's essentially DI
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Here, read how Nick uses "script=" and the script tags in the plugin: https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=7991
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Further proof it's not the script file, you cannot get access to name, line, wildcard arguments.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yes, you can, Cheezburger. You're a moron if you think otherwise.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Now now, let's cool it with the personal attacks :P
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Nobody has attacked you, don't turn childish :P
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wrong and a moron are pretty far from each other...
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh, wasn't an attack. I said you're a moron if you think otherwise. ;)
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley tickles Helperful Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: tech chan drama *puke
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Crowley, Abe, and I have known each other for nearly 2 decades, this is normal :P
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: and we've all spent too much time on this game *duck
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: I think the only opinion that matters is Abelinc's
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Good thing nobody cares what you think :P
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: ...
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: guys guys guys
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So solving Frostpaw's problem... There was an errant end. Instead of ending one function, each subsequent function was built into the first function. Thus, they never got created unless that first function was called.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: ^ thunder-stealer, I was gonna say make sure if you open your first function with an if, you should remember to double-end
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: syntax-highlighting ftw
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Proper indentation.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: once for the if, once for the function
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That's how I found it.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: i did indent and everything, but eh, guess i didnt haha
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I went to repl.it with the lua code itself, and clicked 'auto-format' :P
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I love these instructions: "When turn on / off the key to the ON position,  it works; OFF, not."
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: abelinc, question. Have you thought about or done a grep like plugin for aard?
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: abelinc doesnt need to *think*
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: didnt you ask this question before without elaborating what the hell you mean by a grep program
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you cant grep the mud, because it only responds to certain inputs
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: grep is a unix command to search text...I use it all the time with Aard...but the question needs more context, as there are plenty of text searches for Aard that people use all the time
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: well that was odd, got d/ced right after your statement endy, lol
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: endy I mean a program that will parse the output of a specific command. then only return the lines with the specified output.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for example, if you type into MUSHclient's command line "tell abel" and then hit tab, MUSHclient will search for things that match to complete
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you cannot do that in a generalized sense, because input and output are wholly-unrelated
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the closest thing to that is using echo to create your own tags, which we use in tons of plugins in a non-generalized sense...echo StartMyStuffHere ; <send command here> ; echo EndMyStuffHere...
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: Well I didn't know tab autocompleted things, but that is more in line with unix autocomplete of known commands and filesystems
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: oh man, i use tab completion in mush all the time. its so handy
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: except it's grepping scrollback for it
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to make a "learning" tab completion
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: no I am not intersted in a 'learning' tab complete
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: I am interested in parsing the output of a command. You have answered my original question though
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, grep never helps with parsing the output of a command tho...
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: parsing it for what?
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're looking more for capturing output from a command than parsing it
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: Usecase 1: looking into a bag for a specific item(I know there is already plenty of invsorting stuff this is just an example). Then you would use the command "grep in bag1 helm" and it would only output the lines that have the word helm in it
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: this could apply to things like looking up your rank in lists and other large output commands when you are only looking for 1 or 2 lines of it
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i do something similar in zmud... i have an alias that stores the desired text in a variable, and turns on a trigger that gags everything, except for lines containing the text stored in the variable.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: I mean it doesn't sound terribly difficult.. I was just wondering if it had been done already(less work for me)
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: the alias also issues the relevant command, followed by an echo that commands the trigger to disable itself.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as I said, it's done all the time, but it will gag MUD output besides what you want to gag, because there is not a relationship between MUD input and MUD output...
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: hmm.  what if you captured all the output into one big variable, or maybe an external file, and searched that?
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: like ... _all_ the output.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best is to have both start tag and end tag, so that issuing the command is not the start of it...so something like alias "bagsearch * *", which sends "echo StartBagSearch ; examine %2 ; echo EndBagSearch"...have a trigger on "StartBagSearch", which turns on a "gag everything" trigger, and with an if statement in that trigger to re-echo if the line contains %1...and a final trigger on EndBagSearch to turn off the gag everything trigger
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: output is already searchable
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nectarios Tech: you can turn on/turn off triggers qr
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nectarios Tech: woops. but yeah toggling triggers is the way I would handle it
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course in my client, I just use "/@recall -g 1000 *Mannec*" to search for Mannec in the last 1000 lines of output ;-)
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: while you were looking elsewhere, i snuck into your client and replaced everything in your scroll back with an exact replica.
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: i dont know what its called, and dont really know how to describe it.  with zmud (years and years ago) there was a way to scroll up on the window and it would put a car, and everything above the bar would stay there. and everything else would keep scrolling.    like if a friend send you a big paragraph of stuff to you.  you could scroll up to it. it would stay on the screen and you could read it while the bottom half of the screen was still scrolling.   does muchclient have something like that if anyone knows what im talking about
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: yea ive been wanting the same thing man
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: doesnt exist on mush and would be stupid hard to code in
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: ok :(
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: you happen to know of a plugin that will put the mapper find * and mapper area * stuff in a seperate window by chance?
T3/r7/2018-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: seems like that would require modifications to the mapper plugin
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Hmm, I should make use of Fiendish's textured background in GMCP mapper as the backgrounds for day/night in my clock.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: hey, durin login i get info The GMCP mapper database schema has been changed. Your map database will now be updated. This process may take a while.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: and now i have no maps
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: can any1 tell me what to do
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: build a wayback machine & backup your files?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: dont know what it means
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: Yhtaa: i gave you some steps to follow on the q/a channel
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: in the voice of shaggy from that cartoon i cant remember the name of
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: scooby doo? is that it?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: thanks for the confirmation crowley
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yhtaa, did you wait for the process to end?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: those files should be in what cataloge?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: sometimes my Aardwolf.db file is corrupted and i lose explored room data
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: i did wait
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: you're likely using a very old version of mushclient.. do a checkversion first? :)
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Did you restart MUSH afterwards?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: the map schema should just update and then it all works, have you restarted aard since youve seen this error?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: i use 5.06 pre
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: oops, just saw the crowley msg
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: ok, i try to restart
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: i backup n
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: no, still dont have any maps
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: What happens when you try to move?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: new rooms apear on the map
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Go to your MUSHclient folder, logs, db_backups (I think).
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Take one of the Aardwolf.db backups and move it to the root.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: i am in
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: there are no such files. i can see just different eq.db and stats.db files
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: ok, find it
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It may need to update the schema again.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: and what is Root? mail cataloge?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Your root is the folder you have MUSHclient in.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: no, did not worked:( 
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: okay, um, where is your mushclient folder? on c:\ drive?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: okay, program files? or not?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Good point. Never install in program files.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: i always put my games outside program files
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: no, in mydocuments
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: okay
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: then go to your documents
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: go to mushclient folder
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: you see a folder named db_backups?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: been there, took file from yesterday and try to put to main folder
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: Okay, before yesterday, when was the last time you played aard with this mushclient?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: tonight
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: before, i mean
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: you said tonight and yesterday, so day before that too?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: yesterday during day, day before yesterday
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: everyone else, the mapper database should update every 24h right?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yhtaa: Send a note to Fiendish. He's better equipped to assist you.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Just make sure to take one of the dbs out so you don't accidentally overwrite it.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: what crowley means is copy one of the db_backup files to another folder. maybe c:\ or somewhere, desktop
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: so you dont lose the backups from the overwriting process
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: ok, i just switched to one of my old folder with game - from about 3 weeks ago and it works now.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: you found a wayback machine!  yay!
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: backup your mushclient dir
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yhtaa Tech: finally i just copied some plugins files from old game - plugins with maps
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: anybody here use a mac?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: catch fiendish
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: a mac??? why would someone do that? they enjoy punishing themselves?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: i have to use one at work. its terrible. i want to find 1 single damn application but when i try to search it searches the entire HD and pulls anything with that keyword in it
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: are you refining your search with grep
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: that depends, where can i find a courge on what grep is and how to use it? :)
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: man grep or google grep
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: i just want to use the search bar in 'applications' and have it bring up the application im looking for. is mac really just this terrible?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: basically you do the search then ¦ grep -v keywordrefinement
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: oops that was meant to be a pipe
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: meh. i dont care to learn new methods to use the search option in the finder window. hehe
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: oh, you're not using the command line
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: no im on a MAC just searching in the finder window for an installed app
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Try: Alt+Space, then type the application name
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: eer I mean Cmd+Space
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: alt space scared me. lol
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: yes! thanks Daak
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qyx Tech: I wonder if anyone could help me please. All of a sudden I'm getting messages such as '*** Missing default start room - 1  (Enhanced) A Worn and Battered Breastplate' in orange everytime I type 'list' in a room with a seller. Someone suggested checking my aliases, but I haven't added anything new and there doesn't seem to be any clash with any of the old ones. All I have done recently is change subclasses.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: type areas 1 300 keywords
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: then do list again and see if that helps
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qyx Tech: no, unfortunately it didn't
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: not sure then.  that fixed it for me when it was doing that
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qyx Tech: ah, I tried it again but went to last on the paging. It's working now. Thank you.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qyx Tech: Is this to do with the search and destroy plug-in I'm using?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: ok you may have to do that everytime you open mushclient.  
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: yea, i was told it has something to do with s&D.  
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qyx Tech: ah, okay. Thanks. I've had problems with refreshing my campaign lists in the past in the giu and it says to do that when that happens. It must be affecting other things as well
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: makes sense. if you do "pagesize 0" then "areas 1 300 keywords" that should work too and make sure it doesn't miss any areas.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qyx Tech: ah, okay. Thanks again. I've got that put into a little macro for the time being so I don't forget it.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: I need an external USB 3.0 HDD, is it cheaper to buy the HDD and enclosure separately or just as an external drive?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: I'd buy em separately.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: 100% separate
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: anymore probably together, but I like having them separate
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Some enclosures heat up really hot.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Make sure to read the reviews.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallaz Tech: if you are just using it for backups there are some nice enclosures that are just sockets for the drive
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: kk. any specific brands of HDD to look for or avoid? speed isn't a big deal, just looking for capacity and reliability. if I'm buying separate I'll buy two - one for the router and one for the PC and mirror them.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: How much capacity?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: For the enclosure I've always like the Rosewill ones, I have 4 of them, but last one I bought was in 2015 so might be better
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: thinking 2TB
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182247
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: I've always heard good things about Rosewill stuff.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: I've had great success with HGST DeskStar NAS, but again 2015 so they may have been bought by someone since then
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Matter of fact, I think they were purchased by one of the big ones
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: I had 8 of them running a 21TB NAS array at work, they claimed at the time to have 1 million hours of mean time before failure, and I haven't had 1 fail yet, heavy usage
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (object) Daak emote knocks on wood.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: looks like HGST was bought by WD
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: I think literally every HDD I've bought was either WD or Seagate
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Ya that's what I feared, probably dumpster stuff now
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sunburnt Raded gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: I've usually had good luck with WD drives, I think.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Ya but I see WD going hey, take tha 1 million hours and knock it down maybe too say 200K ;p
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: I mean, that's still 20+ years :p
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Still that's a lot of time hheh
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: 22 anyway
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: only reason I'm replacing my other drives is because they're filling up and they're about 10 years old. I'm fine replacing drives once every 10 years.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (object) Daak rapidly nods twice at Sunburnt Raded, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: If WD left HGST kind of do their own thing, I'd still go there, but if not, might still ;p
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: When your NAS enclosure fails before the drives do, I think that says a lot ;p
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: What do you need those TB for anyway?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Had a Synology DS183+ motherboard blow a capacitor about 3 weeks ago, replacing the capacitor worked thankfully
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: I'm using at work for customer image storage, we did this silly thing where we bought our hardware instead of using Amazon S3 ;p
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Sounds like Raded using it for home backups
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: backups and general storage.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: years and years of hoarding pirated music, movies, and TV shows take up a lot of space. plus thousands of photos/videos and other random things. software backups, etc. I don't have 1TB of stuff now but 2TB drives aren't particularly expensive and I'd rather go in the direction of too much space than not enough space.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: surprised you dont have well over 1TB, you must watch low quality pirated videos
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: most of it is older stuff anyway, so it isn't HD
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ewww
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: archiving is best with dvd?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: I hate HD, when I rent online I'm doing non-HD versions... don't like watching soap opera HD stuff
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: the movies/TV shows I don't care about so much, it's the music.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you hate HD? i cant come to terms with that
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: The HD to me, makes it look fake, which it is of course
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: maybe its your TV settings
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: my non-HD stuff is like...The Simpsons.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: turn off the trumotion or whatever upscales the framerate
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sunburnt Raded nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: For sports and stuff, HD wins... movies, no thanks
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sorry you feel that way, since you're obviously just having frame rate issues that can be fixed
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: I'm a weird-o in this department, but so is the wife, so hey, we save a few bucks when renting stuff ;p
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you just need judder, and i agree. everything needs judder except sports prolly
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: go onto google and look up the best settings for your TV
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: then try HD again
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i'm the opposite - i wont watch anything unless its HD
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: elitist :P
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: I'm a refresh rate elitist
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: though I groaned the other day at a sd rerelease. I was like ...did we really watch tv like this lol
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: 60hz monitors/TVs are for poors.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: i'll be poor then
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sunburnt Raded nods at Frostpaw.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Well I need to qualify my statement, sorry, I prefer 720p stuff, and nothing more, so that is HD
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: I'll watch almost anything if it's 4k HDR
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: I don't need to see that much detail on people's faces, gimme some blur ;p
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dont have 4k TV yet. *cry*
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sunburnt Raded comforts Endymion.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: honestly we rarely watch anything in 4k but I like futureproofing
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes im going 4k next, more and more movies are now
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: not 4k but God of War on PS4 Pro with HDR enabled set to performance mode blows my mind.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im kinda bummed 3D slowed down. was really hoping we'd see full 1080 3d in a 4k format
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: I was never a fan of 3D
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: thridi?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: i dont like 3d either
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: not every 3d movie is good, but ones filmed that way are certainly better
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: fake conversions blow, like wonder woman
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: if I was buying a new TV, I'd only buy one with HDR. if I was buying a new gaming monitor, I'd only buy one with a refresh rate of at least 144hz.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah no sense in having an elite video card if you monitor limits it right
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: 30 fps or bust!
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i havent looked into it, but i wonder why they went to 144
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: I'm not sure, but it was a huge improvement going from 60hz to 144hz.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: like 120 would make sense, wheres the extra 24 come into play?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: TVs do 60hz -> 120hz, I think. which is weird.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah 60/120/240
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: monitors are 60/144/240
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: there are some inbetween those, I think, but those are the common ones.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh its because 144 is divisible by 24, next step up from 120. and also 3d 24fps gives an even frame rate
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sunburnt Raded crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: ok so Endy which HDDs should I buy
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylar Tech: I finally bit the bullet and picked up a 55" 4k last week. Walmart has them on sale for $380
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: the way i get bast spellup up to remove a spell is   "bsp sremove 133"            (shadowform)
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: right?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: anyone there?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Super Star Pleiades points at you.  How rude! 
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: know anything about removing a spell in bast spellup?  it wont stop cast shadow form on me. i cant go vis it just instanly recast it.  i deleted all the bast files.  and redownload them and reinstalled them and still the same thing. im guessing it says that info in some other file
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khalad Tech: is the standard bsp sremove command not working?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: no i already removed it.  and if i try again it says    shadow form not in list
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: but it still cast it on me. 
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: oh wait a sec... 
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khalad Tech: sorry, thats the extent of my noob knowledge
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: there we go.  it was chameleon power that kept reactivating.  not shadow form
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: you fixed it thanks khalad!  :)
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Khalad )
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: More impreovements on my clock, if anyone cares to take a look. https://i.imgur.com/86EockK.png
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: pretty!
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Clouds for day time, dark stone for night time.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: was it made from black construction paper and white oil paints? 'cause if not, then mine was more fun :p
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley smirks at Mannec's saying.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The hands move just like an analog clock does, too. I'm pretty proud of it.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: mine has hands that move like a slightly inebriated analog clock does...
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: thats pretty nifty
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You mean groping all over?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley thanks Endymion heartily.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: not so much a romantic clock, as a wandering one.  but hey, i might upgrade it while noone is watching.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i just use an output of: >> Shadow damage for 11 hours, 39.5 minutes.  (Acid next)
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: heh, watching.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: is there an option to be 4 minutes faster than local time?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, it's not for local time, but in-game time. :(
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: as it should be :p
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: reql time?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I suppose I could set an option to set it 8 ticks ahead. :p
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: oh so it's always correctly fast :)
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Crimzon: No, based off "time" output, not realtime.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: ahhh
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: crowley, what about some sort of indicator of how much real time left in the month?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: get all shmancy and make it a red slice of the clock woot :p
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers with Endymion about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh wait, nm that'd be the whole clock sometimes lol
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: bah, need another dimension to do it justice.  3-d clockface, baby!
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: but since its time you are measuring, that would be 4d, but your screen is flat, which is 2d, so ... singularity?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I mean, [ Day nn of nn ] is a good indicator of how much time is left, really.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley writes the plugin to use your computer's webcam to project the clock on your desktop.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Projection clock, baby!
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well the clock is cool, its just semi unrelated to day x of y, unless you are familiar with the ticks in a day then you can do maffs
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I can easily add that feature, though.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: btw is it just me or is the circle kind of oblong?  maybe its due to pixel width vs height?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, the problem with that is the semi-ridiculous way of drawing circles. You can't just pick a center point and a radius. You have to map out the encompassing square, and so I've been having difficulty figuring out just where to place the x,y values.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: rather, left, top, right, bottom values.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley really longs for a WindowCircleOpt( long WindowName, long centerX, long centerY, long radius) function.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: does choosing a width/height not work by using h/2 etc>
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I think it's more complicated than that.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But if I could do it the way I described, I could just do WindowCircleOp( win, cx, cy, 65)
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: nod, never made a circle before
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I'm still relatively new to windows, so... just making do until I can figure out easier methods.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: are your right-left and bottom-top equal?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: - being minus that is
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Didn't think about that, hmm.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it says the circle should fit inside the rectangle
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so left, top, left+width, top+width
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: and make sure its an odd # so the center is in the middle
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Hmm, you've given me some ideas now.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: also not sure about the right/bottom pixel. apparently in a rectangle its short by 1 or something
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yeah, I've got a better idea on how to draw the circle now.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: And I'm going to write my function for it. :p
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh i lied i did make circles before, i have a checkers game :p
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you know, just for the fun of making plugins
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: when you move a piece it sends a tell to opponent with data to redraw their board. dont remember if it works with Kings or not tho, been a while
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8x5jvjfa84jg2mg/checkers.PNG?dl=0
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh it does have king code whee
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh man, so much closer. Just have to remember offsets.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, circle function works well: function circleDraw(x, y, r) local left, top, right, bottom = x - r, y - r, x + r, y + r return {l = left, t = top, r = right, b = bottom} end -- Then sqdim = circleDraw(cx, cy, 65), and call sqdim.l, etc in WindowCircleOp. Yay.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Mr. Crowley!!!  Endymion cheers him on.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: End result: https://i.imgur.com/4MfIx7I.png
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dwwynn gives a round of applause.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh much better
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I decided making extra rings would make the clock look that much better, too.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it does
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hmm it looks like the 1 is kinda off in placement
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh damn it.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's because I made a slight change to how it formats those numbers.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im sure when you look at your baby you just see cute. lucky im here
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: your babys a lil cross eyed :p
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dwwynn chortles mischievously.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley grumbles and growls. You wonder what's wrong...
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Fix one thing to do another.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: https://i.imgur.com/Jed7gNs.png --> NOW that's better.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Except now the clock is off-center.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh I give up. :p
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Fixed it. :p
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley skips a light Fandango.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Endymion, you still around?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So, something like this... https://i.imgur.com/WZ56nes.png
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masticate Tech: Nice
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but my maff says 8 hours 46 minutes :p
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yours is wrong!
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Probably not, to be honest.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: My brain is fried and I can't maff well.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i have quadruple verified mine :p after discovering the # of days bug and all
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: For whatever reason, my mind can't seem to grasp simple math, a subject that I've grown up tutoring.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Sleep will fix you up!
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers with Fatal FrostBite about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: And with that instant of realization, it was fixed.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I was only counting 12 hours in the day, not 24.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Glad I could help =P
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so you have 8:40 now?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Correct.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what if i wanted, say, a BLUE clock?!?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Then go to the plugin and edit it yourself. :P
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: No, my next step is working on adding hotspots for menus.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I need to do that for dragging, especially, because due to the constant redraw, dragging slips.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: All of this just started out as proof of concept, but it's turned into something more.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: in my windows, i add a moving flag that skips redraw
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: set/unset it in down/up
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yeah, I tried that, and I couldn't drag it at all, not with WindowAddHotspot and WindowAddDragHandler.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh i use "movewindow"
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh?
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I have that as my current drag handler, since I couldn't get Hotspot to work.
T3/r7/2018-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: movewindow.add_drag_handler (win, left, top, right, bottom)
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh you need movewindow.install too
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yeah, I have that...
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But how do you define the mouseUp/down functions for it?
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: movewindow.install(win, 6, 2, true, nil, {mouseup=MoveMouseUp, mousedown=MoveMouseDown, dragmove=LeftClickOnly, dragrelease=LeftClickOnly})
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: MoveMouseUp() is a func, etc
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: What's the "true" and "nil" values?
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: according to the file its: windowinfo = movewindow.install (win, default_position, default_flags, nocheck, friends, preprocess)
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: not sure what 6 relates to, i recycled the code
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Giving it a try now.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so i set moving true on down, false on up. then in window func i do if moving then DoAfterSpecial(.2, "windowfunc()", 12) return end
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Bah, still not working. Are the functions MoveMouseUp/Down or mouseup/down? :p
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if you use function MouseDown() ... end then mousedown=MouseDown
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its a table of course for 6th arg
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Ok, so seems the problem is the functions aren't firing. Time to inspect that.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: bedtime for me, have fun
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Have a good night. :P
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: And thanks for the help.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Fiendish, if you see this, check out Communication Log when you type: help Newbie-Equipment
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Celebrity Tech: this message sounds like from a sci-fi horror movie
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: I wrote him a note, heh
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: There's not going to be much Fiendish can do about that. It's because of rsocials and no prefix in help files that you see those *s. In fact, it'll happen each time you see an "* <word>" starting a line, so you're bound to get errant logged lines. Hopefully, one day Lasher will add {rsocial}{/rsocial} tags.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Does this server use standard sockets?
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: What specifically do you need?
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its probably metric
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley converts his clock to metric time.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Screw the imperials!
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: I was just thinking that using standard sockets would cause a big lag since so much play this, unless the server was on a really powerful computer.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: it uses nonblocking reads
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: nod.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Also, is the server multi-threaded?
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The only time we get serious bouts of lag, usually, is when Lasher has to do a backup of all the pfiles, or anything that has a large number of jobs to complete.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Even then, the lag is pretty manageable and doesn't break gameplay.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Why doesn't he use a seperate program to do the backups, instead of the server?
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: As for multi-threading, I don't know. Obviously, Lasher would know better.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: why are you asking tech channel about the server and my lasher does stuff? last time i saw someone speak for lasher it didnt go over well with him rofl
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: my = why lol
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: ill tell you this lasher has been very kind too me
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, the pfiles are all on the server, and copying thousands of them takes time.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah i was making a joke, sort of. im just saying "why does lasher do this" is a silly question to ask the general public
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: prolly
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Why does Endymion do things? I'll tell you why, because he can!
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley speaks for Endymion on all matters.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Instead of having the server process divert resources to copying pfiles, he could start a new instance's memory and processor share to do the transfer.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Unless he does that already, but the processor share for the server process goes down...
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: intersting
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Write him a note and ask him.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Side note, server is in Texas while he's in Florida. Tidbit if no one knew. *shifty*
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if he walks to work, he could probably run to it faster. unless he already runs, then maybe driving would be faster even
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley rolls on the floor laughing at Endymion's antics!
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: I speak for Lasher. pineapples do not belong on pizza and any food with more than one ingredient can be considered a sandwich. thank you.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion grins evilly at Mr. Crowley.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Hey, who handed you the speaking stick?
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Blasphemy, Raded. Pineapple DOES belong on pizza.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chevalier laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: get out.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Pineapple ruins a beautiful pizza!
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Why? So I can join you, since you're already so far out there?
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I wasn't expecting a yes to that question.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: oh :(
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chevalier comforts Raded.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Coding in a nutshell: Add four lines of code, break something that's worked every time before and was not modified at all.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Added two lines for the Window drawing, and added two lines of code in already-existing if statements. Apparently that was enough to break a completely unrelated function, claiming that I was now attempting to perform arithmetic on a string value...
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Added another feature to the clock: https://i.imgur.com/gGbaWI3.png --> It now shows sunrise and sunset times so you know when it turns night.
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I already know when it turns night by asking the casino manager when the shrimp cart is coming by
T3/r7/2018-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers with Long Time Fiendish about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: that's very pretty. I hope it's themeable
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You've missed it; I've been drawing an animated analog clock that displays Aardwolf's in-game time.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It will be, once I get everything set up.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I stole your backgrounds for day/night, for sure.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: weeeeelll
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: probably lasher's backgrounds
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, I stole somebody's, then. It's whatever was included in the Aardwolf package. :p
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: For all those crying about tick timer gone missing, they can use this instead! :P
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Not succeeding on applying theme colors to my window. :( 
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol. i'll help but not tonight
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: first step is to require the mw_theme_base
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yeah, got that done. I mean, I'll eventually figure it out. Looking over your ascii map plugin for examples.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I'll ask tomorrow if I see you around what I'm missing.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: i just wanna say that the new 6 core intel i7-8750H is the tits
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Graycor Tech: i wanna be friends with it
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rodolfo Tech: hello, sorry long time since last time I played, have 2 question is anyone can help. 1. how to reset all windows, some seem to be outside the scoop. 2. my mapper from old install, whats the file i can pass to recover it?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: 1. resetaard, 2. Aardwolf.db is the mapper database it's in the root of the MUSHclient folder, you should QUIT mush, and copy your older mapper file to the new directory (I assume you didn't do an update?) and the mapper database should be brought up to data automatically
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Make backups of everything first in case you do it wrong ;p
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rodolfo Tech: thanks alot will try it now
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rodolfo Tech: ok worked for normal miniwindows, now need to reset the WW plugins also...
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: is WW winkle's thing? it doesn't work anymore Starling took it over, but he got frozen recently, dunno why
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rodolfo Tech: oh ok... so also need to go searching for new plugins... 
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rodolfo Tech: know any good compilation?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Depends what you're after really and how outdated you are... change to the database structure is what broke Winkle's, Starling forked and made updates, but he recently
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: started added new features and I'm unsure if that's what got him Frozen or not
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rodolfo Tech: mainly trying to get the Campaign and quest helper, where the list was on the side wihtout having to keep requesting it
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rodolfo Tech: it used to have a command like xcp # and took me to the rooms I knew
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Ya, finger Starling, has github link to new Search and Destory, but like I said he got frozen for something, plenty of people use it though
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iamage Tech: what new features does it have?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: S&D is nothing to do with Starling being frozen.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: now ask yourself if you really want to run code from a frozen player that has made numerous threats against the game in the past.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: someone else needs to fork that project and run with it imo
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iamage Tech: Daak said a lot of people are using it and no problem reported so far.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: It's good that Daak has interviewed so many users and gotten their feedback.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: I'm not going to accuse anyone of anything, the only *facts* are (1) player is frozen, (2) player has made offline threats against the game in the past.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: I was simply saying use at your own risk. I don't need to get feedback when there's people asking all the time for help using SnD to know they are using it
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: Personally I'd be very wary of updates since the frozen date.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Did I say he was frozen for SnD, NO
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: Did I say you did?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: I saw the comment on here, someone asked the question, I responded.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Guess I'm miss reading, sorry
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: "(object) Daak Tech: started added new features and I'm unsure if that's what got him Frozen or not"
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: now you do know.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braber Tech: what was the command for better equipment for your level?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: eqsearch
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Braber Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: anyone have issues with aliases not working in mudrammer?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: people use mudrammer still?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Wow
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: is there a better one for ios?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: a SSH client to a proper PC :P
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: From Mac shell, "telnet <site> <port>
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: on mobile?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: I can hand you C++ source for a mud client, and you can compile that from your mac using Xcode or something.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: AFAIK, mudrammer is fine (if you HAVE to do it from mobile), but you're not going to find too super active of a user base here that has any familiarity with it.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Most any other client, we have resources.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: thought so but thought it was worth the ask
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Get VirtualBox and run ArchLinux or Fedora. Some decent clients work on those.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: He's on iOS, not OSx
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: meaning an iPhone
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: oh
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Maybe you could install a unix os on your phone. I did it to some old iphone 4s
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: you guys are speaking gibberish to me lol
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: in my experience, most iOS users are the last people to be trying to root their phone and install CFW
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: I could do it for him :) step by step instructions.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Then you'd be responsible for his phone not making calls, having 4g connectivity, and any other future issues that occur...have fun
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: lol, thanks for the offer! but no thanks :)
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: I can install andriod on an iphone 4
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: I haven't dared to try it on a newer model, though :)
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: I use mudrammer on iOS but really just to come in and grab a daily blessing
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: oh
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: or drunkenly rant on immtalk when my wife goes to the bathroom
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I just SSH into my linux box and connect to my tmux session running tt++ :P
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: That's a way to do it
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: I can't post to Apple's AppStore without a dev license, which is soo hard to get.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: I set it up so I could RDP to my old PC and do it that way but I used it once while testing and then never again. I'm around a computer with a real keyboard often enough
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: i've even hosted a digitalocean server running nothing but tmux and tt++, it worked too
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: You could have hosted a mud from that
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I have an Apple Dev Liscense
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: really?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chevalier is jealous
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: When I got mine it was literally just a $25 payment
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If it's changed since then I must have been grandfathered, I just renew at $25/yr
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: This was...2013?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: They wanted the source to my app, to make sure I wasn't about to violate their privacy policies.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: And of course, I can't give them that!
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Oh, that's required regardless
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The Xcode generated application is reverse compileable by Apple
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Even to post an update to your application they go through the code
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: I know, it's just a folder with .app at the end.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yes and no, it still makes an executable inside that folder
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: But most of the resources are rippable.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: The icons, etc.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: honestly, I like how clamped down Apple has its App Store.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: why?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: because it prevents the fragmentation that Android suffers from
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: I guess...
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I hate developing for iOS and prefer android, but I'll hands down admit that the lack of fragmentation is great
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: I follow a bunch of infosec people on twitter and one of them was illustrating the issue with the Google Play store. Wells Fargo had told his mom to download their app. he went into the Google Play store, typed "Wells Fargo," and got 10+ different matches, all trying to look like an official app.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's all about approach. Play store takes a youtube style approach, take down when it violates. Whereas iOS takes the "Apply to be approved" route
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Which does, in the end, result in less crap apps (like a Android app that just proxies to a http website)
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: like flashlight apps that need access to your contacts and photos.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The big concern these days is people shoehorning crypto mining into apps.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: true, but making a fake Wells Fargo app to steal people's login info is probably a faster way to get money.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: WF can do 2 step auth, so not really
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: is it an option or is it required?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I don't know of any SaaS outside of internal company apps, that require it.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: exactly. people who know better will enable 2FA but the people who will download a Chinese Wells Fargo app clone probably not have enabled 2FA.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The quickest vector to people's resources is ALWAYS gonna be utilizing end-user stupidity. because no matter how idiot-proof you make something, they'll just make a better idiot
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: it will. but App Store you can be fairly certain you're not getting a clone of a banking app. Google Play store not so much.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: like...you can't keep your toddler from getting hurt, but you can remove obstacles and sharp corners :p
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: and if you're in any way involved in security, part of your job is to get the sharp corners out of the way of your toddler users.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Just reading the history, don't knock App that are just web containers... Knock the management that thinks you need an App for everything
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: I'd rather make 1 responsive web app that I can use via a Web Container in a downloaded app, then maintain 2 things
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: hey trying to use plugins from Nickgammon but geetin error on this line: <meta name="request-id" content="6151:2ECA:9FE6FE:12AFA55:5AFF26DE" data-pjax-transient>
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: states a = is missing after data-pjax-transient, any ideas?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: I will need your password to proceed
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: Line   43: Attribute name 'data-pjax-transient' not followed by '=' (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: did you download the html page instead of the xml plugin by mistake?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: nop
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: XML file
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Rastlin: where did you get the plugin and how did you download it?  Was it from github?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: yes, on the list of aardwolf plugins i right clisk and save as
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: automatically saved as XML
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: https://github.com/nickgammon/plugins/tree/master/aardwolf
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: That won't grab the actual plugin though.  You need to download the zipfile and extract it that way.  I hate how github does it :P  I've seen this several times, it's not just you
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kogra Tech: It doesn't. If you don't use the download button it gets you the the HTML of the site saved as an XML file.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: oh ok, will try thanks
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khalad Tech: are the mapper cexits saved per account, or local file save?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: IN the database local file
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khalad Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: how do i enlarge the fotn in the comm window?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: right click on it
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: and click change font
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: i did it wont allow me to change font or go larger than 9pt
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: it should just pop up a font dialog
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: it does. it doesnt allow me to change it from Dina 9pt
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: idk if im missing something. does the aard client not allow it?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: no thats not it, sounds like a question for fiendish. mine lets me change to any font i have installed
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: weird. ok thanks.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: might try asking later also, someone may have a better answer than me
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: i got it. that was strange. only allows certain ones
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: oh hrm
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: mine allows any of them, just changed it to webdings
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindaael Tech: Hey guys,Dwarven judge must've thought that no one will ever find out about this.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindaael Tech: Bah sorry, Ctrl+V bug. Does anyone use the MUD 110 plugin for the Mudlet client? I have a question about Re-Spellup command
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: According to "clients" command there is 1 person using Mudlet ;p
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindaael Tech: Welp, I won't be much help to myself then huh? =P
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Google-fu?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindaael Tech: Tried, it's a pretty specific question. Oh well, maybe I'll try the actual Aardwolf client.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paduck Tech: I think you can make a bug report to GitHub and hope they would answer of fix?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindaael Tech: I'll give that a shot, thank you!
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paduck Tech: np, they are pretty active and helpful!
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: all of a sudden I'm getting really messed up output from Mushclient.  Message is: GMCP DATA ERROR: ...fclientpackage-MUSHclient\MUSHclient\lua\json\decode.lua:91: Invalid JSON data Éroom.info { "num": 28343, "name": "Cavern of Golden Jewels", "zone": "touchstone", "terrain": "city", "details": "safe,questor", "exits": { "n": 28350, "e": 28360, "s": 28347, "w": 28353, "u": 28344   d": 32418 }, "coord": { "id": 0, "x": 30, "y": 20, "cont": 0 } }  
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: I've been that drunk before
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Just close it out and restart it...
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: What should I do?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paduck Tech: sounds like parsing is messed up?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Risio Tech: Is it possible to make mushclient go transparent with a compositor?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I'm not a tech.  Just tell me how to fix it.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paduck Tech: When did that happen during what?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I wasn't doing anything...it just starting doing that when I bought something at a shop.  A pass in knossos
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Sorry if that's illegible.  Mushclient is doing it.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: is your mapper still working?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: my mapper is fine, except the output is crazy.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: You already restarted client?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Oh wait.  I'm in my clanhall, and the map is knossos.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: The map is wrong.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paduck Tech: ...........
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Lots of error messages, like this: GMCP DATA ERROR: ...fclientpackage-MUSHclient\MUSHclient\lua\json\decode.lua:91: Invalid JSON data Éroom.info { "num": 28343, "name": "Cavern of Golden Jewels", "zone": "touchstone", "terrain": "city", "details": "safe,questor", "exits": { "n": 28350, "e": 28360, "s": 28347, "w": 28353, "u": 28344   d": 32418 }, "coord": { "id": 0, "x": 30, "y": 20, "cont": 0 } }  
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: I had somehing similar happen -kturned off the mapper or something. I forget what exactly, but when I undid whatever it was things went back to normal
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: I *think* it was something akin to turning mapper off or something like that
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: disabling map output idk
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Should I shut down mushclient and start it again?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paduck Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=12416   see this too
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I shut down Mushclient and started it up again, and it seems to have fixed itself.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paduck Tech: horray
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Just hope it doesn't go squirrelly like that again...pretty ugly.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: If you can re-create it again by going to the room in Knossos where you think it started, might help
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Figure out why it happened and prevent it
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I went there after restarting muschclient, and it didn't happen again.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Seems fine. Mush prolly loaded a backup of my .db file.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: it may have been a missed/overlooked keystroke you did that disabled the mapper
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: as long as you didn't save after the screwup it woulda been fine regardless
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I was tempted to save, then thought....no.
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: good
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: don't save mistakes :P
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: That's what I figured:) Thanks
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: wat is this TRACE: Executing Plugin Repaint_Buffer script "OnPluginTick"
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: anyone knwo why bsp spellup is giving me this when it recast spells sometimes?  just started doing it today. and its not all the time i dont think
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: well maybe it is everytime a spell is cast.  ive noticed if i close mushclient and open it back up.  it doesnt do it for a while
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Do what?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: what does it do, I use bsp spellup plugin
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: error on upbutton or downbutton in drawshuttle
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: oops. i guess it helps if i put that. 
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: mobile user?
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: it does it when i lose the effect. and then again when it cast it
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: I'm sorry, I have no idea ow to help
T3/r7/2018-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: no prob
T3/r7/2018-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2018-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Is there an android mushclient yet?
T3/r7/2018-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: stop complaining menda
T3/r7/2018-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: blowtorch...
T3/r7/2018-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I can't use mush plugins with that!
T3/r7/2018-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: https://www.xda-developers.com/run-windows-apps-on-android-wine/
T3/r7/2018-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2018-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: no you can't but it uses lua so porting isn't to tough
T3/r7/2018-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also https://limboemulator.weebly.com/x86-emulator.html
T3/r7/2018-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it looks like Limbo emulator might be the real deal
T3/r7/2018-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: heh nice, the science-fudd even looks like the og fudd!
T3/r7/2018-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: wat
T3/r7/2018-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: thats what i said!
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: oddly enough I copy-pasted what gruagach wrote
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, still mis, but I gotcha ;-)
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: when i copy it without the unicode i'm getting "Â" in front o fit
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: yeah, I got those too in comm log when gru wrote it
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: woah, yah my comm log doesnt see it either
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i broke the system! i can get around abes logging
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, my logging doesn't use the comm log (or MUSH at all ;-)
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: all I can say is that mushclient's utf8 handling is kinda funky since technically you're not supposed to be switching in and out of different encodings
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so maybe the main output is coercing the bad input to nice upside down question marks but my handling on the gmcp end isn't
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, probably one of the only times I think tf is working "better" than MUSH for weird characters
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ugly characters aren't better
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although I haven't looked at my GMCP log...
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: also didn't you just say you got boxes?
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I got boxes for what you sent, not what I sent or grua sent
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but I'm just sending what gru sent
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: ???¿¿¿??? shouldn't give you boxes
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't think that's true
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I mean, I'm just sending what I received from what gru sent
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but it looks right to me
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think you're trying to send what grua sent, but you're simply not :P
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: it gives me 9 question marks: 6 normal, 3 reversed
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I also see them in gmcp
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: this convo wuld be easier with discord
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ???
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: did those send as ?'s?
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hrmm
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: yep
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the ¿ that are less consistent
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: client difference?
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: now that was a reversed question mark, between two strange "A"s
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what do you see here? -> ¿
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there I see a square
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: mush preconverted irregular characters to ?'s
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: lol you see a square for string.char(191)
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I see an upside down ? mark
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: in the day we called those sluggos
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: here I see 3 regular ?, 3 upside down ?, and 3 more regular ?: ???¿¿¿???
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: this isn't even utf8. it's just an upper ansi byte
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: different for me (on mush) I see 3 up an A looking thing one down A one down A one down and 3 up
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: Abelinc: each time you send the reversed question marks, I see some extra As with some strange accent :)
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: unless that's what you meant
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: we need a global standard for these characters
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: https://xkcd.com/927/
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Libel Liber smirks.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on my techs, or on grua's gclan at 00:56:43, I don't see any extra characters, just the 3 ?, 3 reverse ?, 3 ?
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: what do you see here? -> ©
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: copyright symbol
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: not in comm log though
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I see square again
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: are you two using the same clients? Abe/Grua?
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Likely not.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i see it in tech but my communcation log doesnt show it
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: abelinc I guess you can't see any extended single byte characters
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no yajan...but what sparked the convo was a MUSH to MUSH discrepancy between regular output and comm log
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Abelinc doesn't use MUSH.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: interesting.. comm log shows same whacky characters as regular window in Abe's case though (for me)
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Libel Liber Tech: Abelinc uses tcpdump
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm on an older mush version
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: 15 is not copacetic, need 2 by 2 by 2
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mine gets a bit more involved as well, because I'm a few levels removed...my client telnets to aard, but I use "Screen" to access my client, and I use PuTTY to ssh into the computer to run screen...
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: abelinc
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ahh yeah, that's a lot of layers to pick through
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so when I was playing around to get the line-based ascii map working, had to muck about with LANG, termtypes, and character sets in a few things
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: my plugin code for maptypes is wonky
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in putty, I'm using UTF8 as the translation, with courier new as the font
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although it doesn't matter for when I use capture for ascii map, since that is displayed in an xterm separate from the putty/screen/tinyfugue
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so I have code that translates it back out of utf8 if it isn't enabled in mushclient
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: somewhere in the code for showing the map also in main output is ((GetOption("utf_8") == 1) and v.text) or utf8_map_text_to_ascii(v.text))
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, luckily I only have to support me, eureka and my kid, so don't need to handle fringe cases ;-)
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: the replacement code has things like    text = string.gsub(text, "E29480E294B4E29480", "2D2D2D")
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: with the comment    -- replace vertical three way intersections with "-"
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow...I'd just pop up a note to the person that they should change their maptype :P
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: instead of redrawing the thing manually
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I do that when I detect that their chosen font isn't monospaced in the plugin display
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: it's not a very robust check though... if WindowTextWidth(win, font_id, "i") ~= WindowTextWidth(win, font_id, "w") then
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: so I guess you could fool it with a font that has i and w the same width but everything else messed up
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: honestly so many fonts seem to have slightly wrong metrics on my system I'm not sure if I should fix them with brute adjustments or assume they look ok for others
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: courier new doesn't line up horizontally for me
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is that on linux or osx?
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: FreeMono doesn't line up vertically
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: linux
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luc Tech: how would I use dinv to get every wieldable item in my bag out?
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: dejavu sans mono lines up, but it's blurry
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bad antialiasing?
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: maybe
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: but this is so many levels away from the OS antialiasing code
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: liberation mono lines up right, but it looks like crap because mushclient doesn't render it properly
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: HI peeps, so I play on Mush, but I play on macbook and the screen size is limited. I have alot of triggers that I intentionally want to pup up in the communcation box and have historically used triggers that spam GT with a message, however more recently i've been in bigger groups that somewhat object to this mechanic, and i was wondering if there was a work around to be had?
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: I've been suggested to try echo, but that only puts it in the main window not in the communcation log.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: I have mf aliased to execute mapper find, but if I include any arugment, it is sent as mf still, any suggestions on how I can abbreviate mapper find?
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: to be specific -I would rather type "mf outer space" than "mapper find outer space" 
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: as of now "mf" will send "mapper find" but "mf outer space" will send "mf outer space" -any way I can make it so "mf (something)" will execute "mapper find (something)"?
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: whats the command to reset the aardwolf mushclient plugins.  regarding their placement.   resetaard or something like that?
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: there we go.  found the documentation finally
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: there we go.  found the documentation finallyl
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: oops
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bupy: you want to use: CallPlugin("b555825a4a5700c35fa80780","storeFromOutside","I want this text to go into my comm log window")
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jilted: make your alias "mf *", and have the action be "mapper find %1", send to execute
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: what's the syntax in an alias to pause/wait?
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: as in pause before executing the next line
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: there is none that just pause and wait, you can use something like socket.time() and do a while loop to keep checking the time until x amount of seconds have passed
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: And you're wrong, Borg. :P
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: For MUSHclient users, anyway.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: how constructive.. lol
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Veritheia: What you're looking for is DoAfter(), or DoAfterSpecial.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: DoAfter() is constructed as: DoAfter(time, command), so you could do: DoAfter(5, "smile")
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But if you're executing an alias, or a function, you'll need to use DoAfterSpecial.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: Crowley that is not the same at all. If he wants a wait, then execute next line a doafter special will not give the intended result
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: And you can use that in a similar manner: DoAfterSpecial(5, "Execute('smile')", sendto.script)
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: DoAfter* will schedule a command to be executed and keep running the current script.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: If you are using co-routines in a script, you can include the "wait" package and use wait.time(5) to delay 5 seconds.  Co-routines aren't intuitive to casual coders though so it may be a bit harder than you'd expect.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Borg: And how is that not waiting?
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, I suppose it's going to depend upon Ver's definition of wating in this case. :P
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: If you require the wait package you can build your own wait.make(function () stuff
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: Crowley he didn't say that he wanted the code after a specific line to run
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: he said he wanted a pause in the program
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: "pause before executing the next line", though.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: DoAfter(5, "smile") will pause for 5 seconds, then execute "smile". :p
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Borg: Yes, the wait.make() function is the easiest way to make a co-routine.  I use that all the time :)
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Thanks all, I think I found what I needed here: mushclient.com/faq #25
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: So you are telling me that any time you want to pause before the next line to run, that you also want all of the code after that line to run before the pause is over?
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Doesn't necessarily have to be any other code after it, but if you want pauses on those as well, you can create a local function, put anything you want to run after into it, and then DoAfterSpecial(5, "function()", sendto.script)
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: That is just a strange way of handling the situation Crowley. 
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just note that what borg was getting at is that if you have 5 steps, and want the pause to be between steps 2 and 3, you'll need to doafter steps 3, 4, AND 5
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I woke up a half hour ago. :P
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Or, as I said, Abelinc, put steps 3, 4, and 5 in a function, and just DoAfterSpecial it.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: I mean we can make programs and uneccicarially complicated as we want :p 
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and durel's version is also listed in that FAQ
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Ha, #25 on that FAQ is essentially what I said, though. :P The wait.make function is listed as an alternative. :P
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But it's essentially the same exact thing.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: which faqs are we looking at?
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: MUSHClient's FAQ.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Send "open bag" DoAfter (1, "get food bag") DoAfter (3, "eat food") DoAfter (4, "close bag") -- or you can use wait.make and do wait.time (1) <command>, etc.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: From the # that Veritheia quoted: "25. How do I pause a script, or delay an action? Scripts cannot literally pause (wait) because that would hang the entire client. One simple method of doing things with pauses, is to use the DoAfter script function which lets you do things after a delay."
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: For the record, I used the wait function to get things working
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The wait library uses coroutines, but if you need quick and easy, DoAfter is your friend, too.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: as far as I understand it, DoAfter only delays that particular command, so it gets to be cumbersome if you're trying to put multiple pauses in
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Borg :p
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: it delays the command rather than the script, right?
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: sorry, that was to Crowley. I had thought correctly on what you were looking for. 
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: My question was a little ambiguous
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: Indeed, which is why I was giving the 'safe' answer
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Veritheia.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Wait.time isn't really any different; you still have to execute them with seconds between. The difference is, it wait does let you script in decisions in the middle of the pauses.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: mm well no, I think wait.time pauses the script itself before executing the next line
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: so maybe okay, I think I misunderstood what you mean
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: but yeah, basically, doafter delays the command and wait.time delays the script
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: which are both useful but in this case i was looking for the latter
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You'd be wrong if you said wait pauses the script.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: that's certainly possible, but I'm not sure I understand what it does if it doesn't pause the script, then
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: This is easily tested by running: \\\print("Testing time: " .. os.clock()) require 'wait'  wait.make(function () waiit.time(1) Send ("smile") wait.time(2) Send("laugh") wait.time(1) Send("grin") end) print("Testing time:" .. os.clock()) -- You'll see both prints before you actually do the commands.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: Okay I see what you mean
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: I believe "script" here just mean the code in wait.make()
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: But so long as you put the second print inside the wait function, it'll come after
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veritheia Tech: semantics, Crowley :P but you make a good distinction that's important if people aren't familiar enough with coding to recognize it
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: whats the best portsl to koin for.a phone?
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: workes great and then freezes
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: does anyone know any good torrent or non torrent sites for music?
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: if you know the answer pst
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Youtube!
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: I want somewhere where I can download full albums
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}In Cide Tech: i used to know sites but all gone now it seems
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Flak: mp3jam.org - pay $3 for unlimited downloads for the day, or $10 for lifetime.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Youtube + ffmpeg - that's all I know
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: thanks Crowley
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: getting sick of youtube then ripping, too many steps :)
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: anyone know if iTunes can read Flac files?
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: .flak
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: .flac
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: I don't think so but I'm not sure
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It doesn't, but you can convert them to ALAC, which is Apple Lossless.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: hmml
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: There's a programmer somewhere out there! Can you tell me how a DLL works? For instance, I want the DLL to display a form. Do I put the code in dllmain?
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: need more context
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: display a form sounds domain specific
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: a DLL is just the windows version of a shared library
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I'm looking to have the DLL create and maintain the form. That possible?
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I don't know what you mean by form
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why are you trying to use a DLL at all?
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: dlls have never made my life better
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no reason to use a DLL, unless you want totally separate programs to all use the same code
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: ^ + ^
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Yeah, the DLL would be the back-end to a few programs.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your IDE should really handle doing everything necessary to create a form
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: was thinking that changing a DLL would be easier than updating a bunch of front ends.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: Aren't forms "front end"?
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: should be using standard windows libraries rather than rolling things yourself
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at KidZero.
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Time Fiendish Tech: I still don't know what a form is
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: think visual basic - windows form
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: a form is a GUI made by a program
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that definition leaves the initial question confusing...as again, the definition of GUI is front-end
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: as far as I know, you need to import and use functions from a DLL. a DLL doesnt "run" by itself right?
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't, correct
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: thats what an exe is, its executable :p
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's just a library, not a program
T3/r7/2018-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: TY for input!
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: I exported a bunch of small .reg files - what's the easiest way to squish them together?
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: No easy way as far as I know, except opening each of them up and copy/paste.
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: https://www.askvg.com/regfilemerger-merge-multiple-registry-files-into-a-single-one/
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sunburnt Raded goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: is it malware? dunno havent tried it
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yeah, I just saw that myself.
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: looks kinda sketchy
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Nah, it's not.
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Raded says it is, then it is!
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Then copy/paste to your heart's content.
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: could write your own script to do it
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: once you're done coding, it'll be quick!
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: ^ exactly.
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i'll do it for 20 TPs
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: this sounds expensive
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I'll do it for 19.5 tps.
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: I was just hoping msft had thought of something :p
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Use the program Endy pointed you to. It's safe.
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: they thought you should leave your registry alone!
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: that's what the ladies of the night told me, Crowley.
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Relevant Celebrity Tech: are there fonts around that has it's letters.. how to say, mix/cross over other letters?
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Relevant Celebrity Tech: mingle..
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hey raded
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: turns out you can do it with: "copy *.reg all.reg" using command prompt inside a folder
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dont think having the "registry editor version" repeatedly would hurt anything. at worst you can use something notepad++ to pull them out of the file after
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If it's a matter of installing them, can just select all and hit enter. You'll have to hold down 'y' for 'yes', most likely, though. *shifty*
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: lucky you, each of these solutions only costs 2TPs
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i wish we could use javascript for mushclient plugins. javascript is nice
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rebornatus Tech: what made javascript become popular whne it was considered as a piece of junk for many years?
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I wish we could pull Aardmapper to blowtorch....
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Rebornatus: Uh, you can use Javascript...
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Er, Endymion, we can use javascript.
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley peers intently at Endymion.
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rebornatus Tech: It seems Google had to create Angular to make javascript decent. WHich tend to mean from my perpsetcive it was a flawed language
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbtopic_id=3
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: In fact, from MUSHclient's program features: "Supports scripting in Lua, VBscript, Jscript, PerlScript and Python, recognizes ANSI color codes, has user-defined macros, spell checking, proxy server support, chat system, built-in editor, and logging."
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hmm never realized
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: So there you go. :p
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: omg i can load a javascript plugin along with lua plugins
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: for some reason i thought you had to match the selected language
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i wonder how much difference there is betwee jscript and javascript
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Jscript IS javascript, from what I've read.
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: And I used to think that, too, Endy.
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hmm it seems they are virtually identical, except for a few things like adding event handlers
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah i guess jscript is built on javascript :p
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its funny, after getting familiar with lua's tables and its restrictions i now realize i could have used jscript this whole time
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That'll be 10 tps for englightening you.
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: do you take traveler's cheques?
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: ... No.
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: My attorney says not to.
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hmm i wouldnt be able to use gmcphelper or serialize anymore...
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well actually gmcphelper isnt such a huge loss, it only makes a single step instead of a few.. gmcp_handler still does all the real work
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You sure about that? Use Javascript's version of CallPlugin.
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah thats what i meant, just cant do gmcp("var") with gmcphelper, have to do a callplugin like a barbarian
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Shame you couldn't do something like: level = Lua(gmcp("char.base.level")), where it returns the value. *shifty*
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: now im trying to think of a reason to actually use it vs lua
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it'd be pretty quick to replicate gmcphelper, or at least the parts i use like gmcp("")
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Where in the mushclient folder is the search and destroy memory located? Like for fres installs
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: plugins/state
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Which one do I transfer over?
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: assuming you use starling's plugin, look for the file ending in e50b1d08a0cfc0ee9c442001-state.xml
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Looking for whatever the xm (roomname) and all the saved rooms
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: for mapper extender, the file should end in b6eae87ccedd84f510b74715-state.xml
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Okay, I transferred over every file, lemme restart
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Yeah, not saved :(
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I removed every file from "state" it removed everything but the rooms are saved, so its saved somewhere else
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: (on my old mushclient folder)
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Does xm roomname use the mapper database with is Aardwolf.db in the root of the MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you need to remove the plugin, copy/paste the state, then reload the plugin
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if its loaded, changes wont take
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: something in this save file has gotten rid of my map mini window, and i cant seem to get it back
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: I closed the client all together and reloaded after moving all the files, how do you unsave/reload etc
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ok that should work then
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Weird enough, removing everything from state, got rid of all my stats, but the saved rooms from map extender are still there
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: While where I moved the files from state, doesnt have the rooms saved
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: So it might be partially saved in state, but its saved somewhere else
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: state is the only place it saves
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: doesnt make sense
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you pasted the files from plugins/state into plugins/state? not a subfolder?
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I know in the past it was saved in the mapper database, don't use it so don't know if it still does.
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: so, 2 things of mush, 1 = original, 2 = new.  I moved plugin/state from 1->2
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: 2 has no rooms saved, while after the move, 1 has rooms still saved, but no settings
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: C:\Users\Adam\Desktop\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\state is where I am getting the state from
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Transferring the old aardwolf.db file fixed it
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: Can I use SetVariable in DoAfter?
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sure
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: DoAfter(5, SetVariable("athome","no"))  doesn't seem to be working
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: and       DoAfter(5, "SetVariable("athome","no")")  doesn't work either.
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you need: DoAfter(5, "SetVariable('athome', 'no')")
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: dont you need to choose where to send it also? such as, 12 for script?
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: I have it in a trigger
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh doafter is only for "execute"
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: use DoAfterSpecial
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: ok. I will try that.
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you need: DoAfterSpecial(5, "SetVariable('athome', 'no')", 12)
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that sends to script and can use the setvar func
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: DoAfterSpecial(5,"SetVariable('inmanor','no')")    didn't work. [string "Trigger: "]:2: bad argument #3 to 'DoAfterSpecial' (number expected, got no value)
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: re-read it... you need , 12
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: oh, the 12
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tordan Tech: it worked! thanks Endymion.
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion goes to Tordan: "No Problem!"
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spublofe Tech: Does anyone have a copy of the VILE codebase for muds?
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: people who smoke weed have connections, trez
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oops mis
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rokshel Tech: is there a way to set up an in-game go fund me account for mastery points?
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: www <url>
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: www <url>
T3/r7/2018-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: is there a plugin that displays dtrack in a miniwindow?
T3/r7/2018-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crump Tech: any blind player used the winkle winkle tripple plugin please
T3/r7/2018-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaerune Tech: Hi, I had a question about an issue I'm having typing in commands. When I go to press [Enter] after typing a command the command text will show on my screen but it doesn't seem to have registered in the game as I usually have to retype it before it submits the message, command, etc. Is there any way to fix this/Am I doing something wrong here?
T3/r7/2018-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodhawk Tech: what shows up at the end of your text?
T3/r7/2018-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaerune Tech: It will show the command on my screen as if it has run but I never get a reaction to it actually working. If it's me trying to send a message it won't show the message has sent to that player/channel.
T3/r7/2018-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodhawk Tech: has it ever happened when you tried inventory perhaps?
T3/r7/2018-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Do you Masticate Tech: sounds like local echo
T3/r7/2018-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaerune Tech: It happens at random with any command
T3/r7/2018-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaerune Tech: I can't predict when and with which command it will happen on
T3/r7/2018-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaerune Tech: not a HUGE deal but very annoying
T3/r7/2018-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Do you Masticate Tech: using mush?
T3/r7/2018-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaerune Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2018-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Mowse Tech: - 5
T3/r7/2018-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squeeky Mowse Tech: Whoopsies.
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: ... Trying to figure out how to reconnect all the ribbon cables in a laptop when you have only an inch of space really sucks.
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: hi i was just trying to llog on wiht the mushclient.. is there a bug on it or something?
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Shouldn't be, you downloaded the Aardwolf Mushclient package or just stock Mushclient?
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: i think i have to download it again. tsomething is wrong with it.. the one i have
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: You downloading from here? https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: woot i got it fixed! yay!!!
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: Excellent
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Igamu Tech: i re0extracted it.. or something.. it worked
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: -jh
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Halp Halp! Can someone tell me why the external references is blank when I open a new console app in VS 2013? I try to add a reference and that's blank as well.
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I'll ask again later. Hopefully more programmers will be online!
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: Did you mean C# console app? It's "add reference" after right clicking "references"
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: C++ console app. I wonder if it's a linker problem.
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I hit add references and it will not show any available references. I can't access anything i.e. System.windows
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: "System.Windows" is .NET, so you may want to create a .NET console application instead?
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: TY, I'll check it out.
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: I need to reduce the file size of an mp4, any freeware things out there I can use?
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.videosmaller.com maybe?
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: I saw that but I'm always a little sketched out by websites that offer services like that
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sunburnt Raded Tech: not having luck with the site
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: wheres a good manor potion for sh?
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Need a programmer to help me! Opened up a blank C++ Win32 Console Application in VS 2013. I want to add references but it's not letting me. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: it might be easier to have a reference to a thing if you have the thing first...
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: try saving the project, closing, then reopening
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: didn't help Endy.
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that's all i got, i know it was an issue before :/
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: not sure what you mean Mannec
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: it was almost a joke.  a reference is sortof like a pointer...
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: Check "project reference" section under https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/310674/how-to-add-references-to-a-managed-visual-c-project
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: TY KidZ. I know how to add references... the problem is, there are no available references to add.
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: sorry for delayed response, got a phone call.
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: what reference are you trying to add?
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I'd like to add the windows.system reference along with a few others.
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: use windows.system
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: wait what language was this?
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: c++
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I tried... it doesn't understand. C++ Win32 Console App.
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: ahh, i was thinmking c#
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: I believe you meant "System.Windows"? That's c#
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: abe can help you there
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fraid not, I'm not really a programmer
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Yeah, got dyslexic it seems =P
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: oh, yea thats probably right zero. i dont do the see sharps
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: a fraid not... is that that joke about a string walking into a bar?
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite grins evilly at Super Star Pleiades.
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we have a lady at work to do real programming...I actually wrote a production system for work using my tinyfugue MUD client cuz I knew how to make it do what I wanted :P
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite laffs at you.
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: idk what is it #include?
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: someone here knows
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: If it's C++, include the header files in your solution
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and of course when reading Lasher's MudInfo post, always remember my public logs as well ;-)
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: that's what I was thinking Kobus!
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: headers aren't found. It's really strange!
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: #include "Windows/System.h", idk man, i dont do the see plus plusses either :p
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: that's why I thought adding the right references would help... but that's a bust.
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: should be a folder with all the header files somewhere though
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: find that and youll know what to include
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: nah references are for external stuff, like .cpp files youve made and downloaded things
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: Try this workthrough, https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb384843.aspx
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: could it be because I'm using the community version?
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KidZero Tech: edition shouldn't matter
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: tons lf lk
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: of ports check aardwolf for the best one
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: No dice. TY all for trying!
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: tech bite me
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite bites Crimzon on the neck!
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: not kitterally
T3/r7/2018-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: damn lost
T3/r7/2018-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: do the lua binaries for windows come wih the standard regex built in?
T3/r7/2018-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(object) Daak Tech: I can't imagine any language wouldn't provide regex support in it's core
T3/r7/2018-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: in lua is there another way to do regex searches other than with string.find?
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone know what: You feel your light blue aura fade. is a message for?
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borg Tech: Anyone else hate Angular?
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Anyone know of a good free mud client that supports scripting?
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: what os?
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burgulus Tech: mushclient
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burgulus Tech: erm mirc
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: if you can code any client with gmcp support is goos
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: good*
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: whos the one working on the soundpack plugin?
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fiendish/Pwar
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: so is it in the standard mush package now then or just the VI package?
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i need to get involved in that, i have tons of ideas for it
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: What is a good interval from which to send commands, from a bot?
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: I tried 250ms from one, but one of the longer strings didn't register.
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: what?
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: How much milliseconds should a bot wait between sending commands?
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: well...
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: i would take into consideration average typing speed and then maybe add some variance with math.random
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chevalier )
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chevalier :)
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: if you want to get really into it you could probably do a chance for typos based on keyboard layout with a follow-up corrected command
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chevalier laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Currently, it can't parse ASCII codes... so it's hard to expect what it will get.
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: bots dont need to see in color
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: But it's easier to write handlers if I don't have to include color codes.
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobus Tech: right, thats why you would turn color off completely
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: oh. forgot about that :)
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: sometimes the solution is so simple it's hard to see
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chevalier chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: C seems to have gone out of style, and to a lesser degree, C++.
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spublofe Tech: depends on what you're doing. Embedded is still all C
T3/r7/2018-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bhengis Tech: does anyone know if there's any way to retrieve lost/deleted text (homework) that was typed into a discussion board, if he already left the page and ctrl-z doesnt work??
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakhor Tech: is there an option in musclient to make additional window with affects output ?
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakhor Tech: ok thx then any options of highlighting ?
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: probally a dumb question.  but im drawing a blank.  so in mushclient it has the "keypad" setting for the 1-9 + - etc.    if i wanted to do the same thing with other keys on the keyboard how would i go about doing that.  specificly the F keys. 
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: look at the alt+entr menu, can't remember what it's called though
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: under hotkeys or something similar
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: thats the triggers. hmm
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: no, not triggers/aliases
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: I'm not on mush anymore and really can't remember
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: k. thanks for trying
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but it is in among all those menus
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: k
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: but also do a web search for ghe accelerator function, that you drop in to an external lua file
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that works a lot better and lets you bind alt+keypad etc
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: /
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: oops
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: use double colon
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: if starting with a colon
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iamage Tech: tech anyone know how to get Bast_spellup's blockers to work? I tried bsp sba 53:258, but I still keep casting haste.
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: try using the name of the spell instead of #
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iamage Tech: i've already tried that too, it doesn't work.
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iamage Tech: I even got this msg "haste is now blocked by accelerate" but it just doesn't do anything.
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Relevant Celebrity Tech: the hiding volume slider in web players
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Relevant Celebrity Tech: youtube player has this. 
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Relevant Celebrity Tech: i wonder what was the argument to make the slider to hide. it must have been one magnificent one
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Which file in mushclient folder contains cexits?
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: it's in aardwolf.db, but don't mess with that with mush open.
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: My old client kinda exploded and everything got reset... kinda?  My backups dont work on the main install, but new install they do
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: so im trying to transfer everything from old client to new
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You need to move your files under worlds folder too.
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huko Tech: Okay transferred .db and /worlds, anything else?
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Possibly your logs folder
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakhor Tech: how to remove [*Daily Blessing*] word from prompt? i already made a shorter status about it?
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: daily prompt, I believe.
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you could try: daily blessing
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it always works for me
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley snickers with Endymion about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luna Tech: why would you want to?
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dwwynn giggles.
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakhor Tech: thx
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: wait i gotta know
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: do you know what daily blessing is?
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You typically want to get them each time you see that prompt.
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakhor Tech: help file is pretty ovbious )
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ok then i dont understand why you would want to remove the notice. but ok have fun
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Do you Masticate Tech: Hates free stuff
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley loves free stuff.
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakhor Tech: i dont want to remove
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Yeah, well, no one asked you, Masticate.
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakhor Tech: i just already put it in as a shorter indication in prombpt
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: that doesnt make sensne
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Nakhor Tech: how to remove [*Daily Blessing*] --> that says you want to remove.
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: dont you just take it and be done with it?
T3/r7/2018-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Only way it can indicate you have a blessing, unless you have a permanent timer set up upon taking the daily prayer.
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvodis Tech: Hi everyone. I'm very much a newbie on both MUDs in general and here. I'm on Linux and using tintin++. It mostly works but I'm finding that the input/output gets mixed up making it hard to tell if what I'm typing is going to look correct or not. Are there any other recommended clients for Linux. Particularly interested on solutions not involving WINE. Thanks!
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Doesn't MUSHClient run under WINE?
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: He is using TinTin++
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Heh... missed the *not* =P
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjp Tech: Qvodis, try using the #split command (with the hashtag)
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qvodis Tech: Jjp if this does what I think it looks like a solution. Thanks!
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jjp goes to Qvodis: "No Problem!"
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Wow, Mudlet is being updated now....
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: wow really?
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: https://www.mudlet.org/
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It has been overhauled too from the looks.
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i used to use that, now i just wine mush
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Someone is using Mudlet it seems on here.
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Never heard of Ansi before.
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: that's abelinc's special client
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I thought Abelinc was on TF
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: sometimes
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: just like he uses netscape navigator or lynx, he's been know to use Edge as well
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: different things
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: linux?
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carlie Tech: is there a way to get a log to save automatically without having to save it manually with mush
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immpure Anaristos Tech: you mean you don't want to be asked when you close the client down?
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If you're talking about communication log, it automatically saves unless you've turned it off.
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It suppose to save automatically I thought.
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carlie Tech: it makes backups but not what is in the output window
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: The main window isn't logged, correct.
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carlie Tech: yeah  i think that is what is considered the main window
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: However, you can do SetLogOutput(true) to log it.
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Just do \\\SetLogOutput(true) to start logging.
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carlie Tech: where would i do that at
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Bamboo Tech: Where you're typing right now
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: On the command line.
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: shift-ctrl-j
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carlie Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You can also do as Endymion suggested and look at extra options there.
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I would think alt-3 would be better than ctrl-shift-j if you want to not have to be asked to log
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for clients, ansi isn't a client program like vt100 isn't a client program...they're just terminal emulation types that various clients support...I'm actually surprised nobody's showing up as xterm (although it may be one of the unknown clients), as that's kind of the newer go-to for progams to identify themselves as
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: whats the command to see what areas your mapper hasnt explored
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Your MUSH mapper?
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: yah its like mapper unexlpored or something
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: There isn't one that defines what areas you haven't explored.
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mapper: tell me where i haven't been
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: You have not been to the places you haven't been.
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: YOu mean mapper unmapped?
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: thank you, mapper
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: there we go thanx
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That will only show you rooms that have exits that don't lead to other rooms.
T3/r7/2018-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Meaning you haven't connected them to any rooms.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morrow Tech: I have been receiving errors every time I start the aardwolf mudclient, but everything still works. when I tried to reinstall plugins, everyone says missing aardwolf_sound track, how to fix this
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Sounds like you need to download the aardwolf sound pack.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If you use Fiendish's installer, it's automatically done.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morrow Tech: I downloaded it, but it can't be installed, says see output windows for details, but output window has whole lot of stuff
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: "whole lot of stuff" isn't very descriptive or helpful.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morrow Tech: I search for error in the window and get two of them, Error: " .. message)
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: And?
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morrow Tech: "end
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morrow Tech: "end
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: (Hint: It really helps to know what those error messages are if you want help)
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morrow Tech: %end
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morrow Tech: I cant sent it, it just keep turning tech channel on and off
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morrow Tech: is there something allow a string instead of cmd
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morrow Tech: [end
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morrow Tech: [end
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morrow Tech: [
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Does what you're trying to send start with a ;?
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morrow Tech: something about endfunction 
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You may also have to delete all the new lines so you can put it all into one line. Or you can make a post out of it or paste it to pastebin.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morrow Tech: https://pastebin.com/FZEEw4ed
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Er, that's not an error message. How are you trying to install it?
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morrow Tech: this one? https://pastebin.com/UGZTyg0j
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morrow Tech: I just add plugin
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: What do you see when you type 'checkversion'?
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morrow Tech: "sorry Morrow, I don't understand you"
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It appears then you're running an older version of the client.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morrow Tech: it is 5.06-pre
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Go to https://fiendish.github.io/aardwolfclientpackage/ and download the newest one. It's an automatic installer, and you won't lose anything, but make a backup just in case. And make sure you point it into the same directory you have AardMUSH currently installed.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morrow Tech: ok
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morrow Tech: thx
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I'm talking about the version of the AardWolf package, not the client itself.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morrow Tech: do I want the full vision one?
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morrow Tech: or the non-visual one?
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, that depends. Are you blind? If so, use non-visual. If not, use visual.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: Can you make 2 triggers to shoot on same input? I have navigator bypasses to shoot at 105, I also wanna have trigger to wear item 105, I could just pile two in one trigger, but I like idea to separate them more anyway?
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: yes, you can make 2 separate triggers if you want some code to be different in each
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: it really depends on how you want to process the trigger info
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: in this case, i would use one trigger and execute two different aliases/lines
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: or make 1 trigger that calls 2 aliases
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: yeah could do that I guess
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: just remember, require 'gmcphelper' if you're using mush, it helps better than doing the old plugincall way
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: probably too complicated for navigator bypass triggers any easy way to add check to shoot if navigator yes, if not no?
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: I use older version mush
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: yes, gmcp has navigator class.. umm, forgetting the gmcp group its in
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: char.base { "name": Lasher, "class": Warrior, "subclass": Soldier,...}
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khannon Tech: new mush versions break all the old stuffs
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: so basically local class = gmcp("char.base.class")
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: hmm well, do it the old way too, shrug
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: with much client is there a way i can make something highlighted or underlined or something.   like when i type where child.   then the line that says "a small child    a collapsed igloo" will be highlighted or underlined.?
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: err muchclient
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: blah mush
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Are you looking for a scan highlighter?
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: no ive got that.  i would like one for the where command
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: or just something so it stands out and easier to see
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: and i dont have the knowledge to figure out how to edit scan highlight to work for what i want.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Why is the aardmud.org client available using http://aardmud.org:443/... ? That seems... wrong... 443 = https
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Free certs with Google's letsencrypt. No reason not to use it...
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what are you talking about?
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I'm just curious why aardmud.org uses port 443 for http instead of either using 80, or just using https like normal sites
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: because that's what Abelinc decided 
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: I wanted port 65534 and he said no
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i heard there was a vote, which ended with port 80 winning. but he STILL decided to use 443
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero giggles
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Aard is a real democracy then :)
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/Clients vs http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Main/Clients
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: The former is linked from the menu on the left, the latter from the newbie page
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Can I consolidate pls?
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm not seeing where there's a link using http on port 443 on either of those wiki pages, or on the main website's pages...current links all point directly to github
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: can you please reboot the server, abelinc?
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: we want an inferno pop
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Abelinc, sorry two separate things
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: #1 the 443 thing
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: See http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Main/Clients
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, aside from the fact that I have no more access to the server than you do, sure
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: "Aardwolf's Flash client - http://aardmud.org:443/FMud/Aardwolf-Fmud1.html Flash client available in any web browser. "
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh the FLASH client, not the client download
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Yes, sorry
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nobody gives a crap about that
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Umm.. it's on the wiki - newbies will give a crap
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no they won't
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a last-ditch-can't-access-any-other-way option
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Then we delete the links?
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero grins
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it stays exactly as it is
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Ok, let me start over...
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I was just *curious* to know why it's http on port 443
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Normally 443 = https
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: But anyway
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I know what 443 normally is...and it's likely 443 because someone had issues using it on a different port
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (that being 80)
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: my guess, someone's provider was either caching/proxying 80, but didnt do that thing to 443
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the same reason that you can connect to the MUD on a half dozen different ports
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Ok, so one alternative *suggestion* (wink) is that a free cert is obtained from letsencrypt. It's certainly not necessary - just a way to make things a bit more... standard... Of course, feel free to ignore...
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Issue #2 was a different one
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Two pages with pretty much the same content
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, letsencrypt is not google's
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Isn't it? Sorry, thought it was
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: That we know of!
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that free cert likely would make things worse rather than help
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: You lost me on that one; I've used letsencrypt before, seems fairly easy to me, but if you're aware of an issue that would make it worse that's fine. I just throught I'd raise it for my own education as much as anything else
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Soooo... the dup pages. Can I clean up?
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Looks like Guiness's one is the older.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: letsencrypt is great, I use it on dozens of domains...
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but we're not talking about supporting https on aard's webserver here...we're talking about forcing https on a crappy piece of middleware which we have zero control over without testing...
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: and all for nothing on top of that
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are lots of web frameworks that break royally when you force https
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't bet much on a 10-year-old flash program handling it properly
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: does it work with netscape navigator 4.08?
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: links!
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero rofl
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Ok! Enough said. I hope I didn't offend in asking the question!
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the flash client runs directly on the MUD server, different from the webserver
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that I have nothing to do with the running of the MUD, its website, or anything else...I'm just another player
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: you're being too modest now
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: but if you have a waffle .......
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero hands Mudd a waffle
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: (stolen from Taeryn... sshhhhhhh)
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Super Star Pleiades gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: On #2 I've consolidated the pages
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Though unfortunately I can't delete pages, so one of the pages is now just pointing to the other...
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: I'm looking for stray links...
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: personally, I find that preferable...keeps the information in sync, but keeps the pages discoverable regardless of what level you're looking in
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: can i get some advice
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: on computers
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Burgulus sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: can anyone give me some computer advice
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burgulus Tech: what's the problem ?
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ask Raded! He knows all!
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: 486 turbo is the way to go!
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But yeah, better to just ask your question...
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: 166MMX
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: it says no battery present yet its plugged into the wall and working fine
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Tower or laptop?
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: did you check if the batter is there?
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Most likely a bad battery...
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I'd imagine laptop. You don't get that message with towers...
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: battery*
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at [Outlaw] Mendaloth.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: should i let it charge overnight or what
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: theres some of them e leck tron icks in batteries these days
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Charging overnight won't do anything.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The battery is more than likely dead or bad.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah try that.  What kind of laptip and how old?
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: then im screwed
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: There are a couple different things it can be, though.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You might need to update drivers to detect your battery.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: There are some cases, like with my brother-in-law's Toshiba, where the battery was good, but the laptop wasn't detecting it.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: yeah wire could be lose too...
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Toshibas have a bad habit of doing that it seems.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: it says that in the drivers section that batteries are working fine
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: so whichi is it then
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Don't know. Can only offer suggestions of what to look for without being able to physically test it.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its not exactly an exact science bro
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: i dont have time to for this l..ill pay my bills and buy a new computer
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Just like I can't call my mechanic and say, "Hey, my check engine light's on, what's the problem?" :p
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: forget it ........ill pay my bills and go buy a new one
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burgulus Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Then you're probably pouring money down the drain.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Hey can you take care of mine too?
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: i dont have time to screw around man
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grinning, Super Star Pleiades commends Mazurian's story with a thumbs up. Cool story bro!
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: If you're going to be so drastic about it, buy a new battery first.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You could search online by brand and model with battery issues
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i hire someone to pay my bills for me
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: i dont have time for this ill buy a new one
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Turie: He doesn't have time for that. But he has plenty of time to pay his bills and buy a new one.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Which, presumably, will take quite a bit longer.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Unless you're sitting on a couple thousand dollars.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Endymion will hire someone and pay his bills it seems.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Endymion, I'll pay your bills!
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i don't have the time to do it myself
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: maybe Abelinc can figure it out through a teamviewer session
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: My going rate is 3x the amount of the bill to be paid.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i barely have enough time to hire someone to do it
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Endymion is just that busy with running the countries.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I don't have time for this - can you take this to tells?
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: You misspelled ruining.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: lol yall crack me up
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I don't have time for your admonishing, Mendaloth. Can you please just quit the MUD?
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Ain't nobody got time for that!
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: can't we all just take some time to get along?
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: See my last statement.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: darn now i'm fresh out of time as well
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Time is a valuable commodity.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I've got some spare time I'll sell for 1000 trivia points.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: As the spare time runs out, the price goes up, so buy now, save later!
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tantravect Tech: lol sounds like that justin timberlake movie
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: JT is a great actor, and some tech stuff too
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: i found a new computer on sale 
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Those are my initials. I thank you for your compliment.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: done
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley pats Mazurian on his head.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: new comuter 500 bucks with tax
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: computer
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: so i paid my main bill already
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Cool, see you in about 6 weeks.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: no i have the funds to get it now
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what one did you order?
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: i duno some stupid brand name on sale
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: I suggest a Tandy 1100FD
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: inb4 "How do I get all my stuff off my old laptop onto the new one?! I've lost all my MUSH settings!"
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burgulus Tech: all that reinstalling software is a pain ...
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Pleiades: I prefer TRS-80.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: im confused though in device manager it says the battery is working fine
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: CPU: 8/8bit NEC V20 10 Mhz with 640K RAM
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: It's always wise to know exactly what you're buying...
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: device manger can be a lieing piece of shit
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: ill buy anything i cant take the chance next month for it to breakdown
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: hopefully next month it wont breakdown
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: this crap never ends i swear
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Betcha it does!
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i always buy the first one i find on sale too. they are typically good and reliable.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: i found one on sale its cheap
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: cheap will work
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That's how I wound up with a wife!
T3/r7/2018-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: lol haha
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morrow Tech: is there a cmd to test the connection to the server?
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: ping?
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there's no ingame command
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Oh, if only I knew more about coroutines in Lua... then I could go back to my email script without locking up MUSH. *sigh*
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Does Aard still support MSDP? According to the wiki it should but sending a DO/WILL 69 (0x45) doesn't get a response back that the server WILL/DO it
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero watches the tumble weed roll over and decides to come back later to ask the question
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: my guess is only lasher could answer that
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: or maybe mordist
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did it ever support msdp?
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or maybe i'm confusing msdp with some other mud protocol
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: fiendish might know also
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: tumbleweeds:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQc5gDXQGIs
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: in blowtorch is there a way to close a db cleanly on quitig?
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: What do I do if windows is telling me to uninstall an incompatible app, but when I go to the apps thing the one they want me to remove isn't listed... how can I remove it if it isn't listed?
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: It wants me to uninstall Avira Antivir which I don't see in the list, haven't been able to update windows cuz of it.
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purriffic Growltiger Tech: Prolly have to use a registry celaner
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: Sounds like fun.
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: lol, the first two sites I try to go to for a registry cleaner are blocked, malware bytes thinks they are malware.
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solaris Tech: try cc cleaner
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigg Tech: ccleaner*
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purriffic Growltiger Tech: We use c cleaner
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: this one downloaded, gunna try it, it says free which is my only requirement :P
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: from auslogistics, so we'll see. thanks.
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Eh, cccleaner has been in the recent news about its malicious practices. :p
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Geek Uninstaller is my preferred go-to for uninstalling.
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Win 10 is very jealous about who spy you :P
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Even if it no longer exists on the list, it can still have it there and remove registry components.
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try installing Avira and removing it
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: thats why ou gotta just format your harddive every couple months.  eliminates alot of problems :)
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think unless you need some very specific app or you are gamer - then you could consider switching to Linux and running Windows in VM like VMware
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, what you THINK about people using their preferred OS isn't relevant.
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OS is used just to run your app
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: And people should stop pushing their preferred OS onto others.
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: whether it is Minix (that you run on Intel anyway by default), Linux , Windows - that really does not matter
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however you need to be aware that some OS-es do more than just starting your app and serving resources to that app
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for security reasons - Windows should be avoided
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also for consuming resources :P
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: i lock mine at night
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: found a new computer 500 bucks im going to get it in 20 mins
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Super Star Pleiades Tech: did Abelinc OK it?
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: im just gonna buy a new one ...........saves time 
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: in the long run
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigg Tech: so mazurian is abe's son
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mazurian Tech: lol no
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Mazurian: No one cares anymore. You've said that like 500 times already. It's like you want us to be impressed you were able to just buy a new computer on a whim just because it saves times.
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigg Tech: Crowley is a meanie
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley isn't wrong.
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigg Tech: are you sure your first name isnt Alastair?
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Well, the occult specialist you're referring to spells his name as Alestair. :) But no, that's not the reference.
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zigg Tech: haha ok
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Crossroads Demon turned King of Hell and all that.
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Is Lasher/Mordist around to answer my query from earlier? Wiki implies MSDP is supported on Aardwolf, but doesn't appear to be. I'd love to correct the clients protocols page with info
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pero Tech: Or to understand why my telnet option 69 isn't being responded to :)
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero once again watches the tumbleweed
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pero giggles
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: what's that silly command that one shall never use to send a command to another plugin... i am too lazy to do onpluginbroadcast for a temporary thing
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: sillycommandtoanotherplugin
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: oh yeah... that's it
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Are you looking for "CallPlugin"?  That will execute a function in another plugin.
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Or you can BroadcastPlugin.
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but then he needs to handle it in the other plugin, which he didnt want to do
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: i was looking for something dumber... but callplugin may be it
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: KoopaTroopa nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if you were more specific we could probably be more helpful
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: first off, which one of my plugins are you calling?
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: none, actually
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hippy Raded Tech: endysmama.lua
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: well there is your first mistake
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh that plugins easy
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: no, i have something that i want to test -- if I edit durel's plugin (for example) and i want to trigger changing equipment at lvl 121 to 'dinv set wear warrior' i need to have my triggrer not send to the mud, but to the plugin
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Why not send to Execute and run the dinv command there?
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that can just use Execute()
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: gotcha... execute is what i wanted then... i was just having a brainfart
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: If you are using dinv to update your eq in a level up trigger, you may want to add a short delay so that gmcp has a chance to update first.  Otherwise, dinv may think you are still your previous level.  For example: DoAfterSpecial(1, "dinv set wear psi-melee", sendto.execute)
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Yeah, that's a bit kludgy.  I admit it.  :P
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: nod that was a 'for example' but it is something i have considered doing anyways :)
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: I'm not having dinv get confirmation that gmcp is updated before it uses the level reported by gmcp
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: btw, really dig the plugin Durel... very nice work
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KoopaTroopa Tech: endy writes good stuff too... we just have a hate/hate relationship in-game, so i will never say it outloud
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: Thanks, appreciate it.  It was really just a trojan to get Endy to use it.  Then I can make him remove all his eq if he tries to gank me.
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i knew it!
T3/r7/2018-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion grins evilly at Old School Durel.
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: how do youu
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: how do you output the schema of a sqlite3 database?
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: the long version of that question is how do i replicate the structure of a database without grabbing all the data in it
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have you ever encountered RAID controller that is able to damage HDDs ?
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: I DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT FRAGMANTATION
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for sqlite : https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4654762/how-can-one-see-the-structure-of-a-table-in-sqlite
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: thanks trackx
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also check this one: https://www.tutlane.com/tutorial/sqlite/sqlite-dump-command
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: ooh, cool, I'm working on a version of the mapper for blowtorch but fiendish doesn't build his from scratch, only updates old versions
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess using aardwolf.db could be quite good approach
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you want to use existing db schema then just dumping whole db on PC and loading on phone is probably good idea
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or maybe even files are compatible so you could just copy *.db from PC to phone
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that is the plan but i need to start with an empty database so i can test that everything works as expected
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now back to my question :P
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: what did you mean by "is able to damage" i remember, pre-2000 rumours about viruses being able to crash heads into platters but that was an urban legend, as far as i recall
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems unlikely but I have a RAID controller H710 that marked drive "failure predicted", so I replaced drive and next patrol read marked drive as faulty (smart showed reallocated sectors), then I replaced this one with new one, next patrol read marked drive as faulty (badsectors seems to confirm that, however this time SMART is OK, though shows elements in grown defect list), so I replaced it with hotspare from other server and patrol read marked it as "predicted failure"
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: it is highly unlikely that the exact same sector has errors on so many drives, I'd check the raid hardware
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: all drives were same model: hitachi HUS156060VLS600, 1st 5 years old (so could be just old and failing), next 2 were manufactured 2017, last one 6 years (unused hotspare)
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nice Imm Anaristos Tech: bad head
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is still possible that all 4 drives were faulty, especially as they are all same manufacturer (first and last were Dell branded), 2nd and 3rd were just hitachi (so I suspected that raid card just marks them faulty because of timeouts or something similar)
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still as for 2nd drive smart confirms reallocated sectors - then it was obviously faulty
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now, I wonder whether putting new one replacement disk into same slot is good idea
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean it seems unlikely that drive is damaged just by sending commands to it, still it is possible that specific bay have some power issues
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but then power/voltage monitor shows everything is ok
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: attempting to open www.aardwolf.com gives this: HTTP Error 504: gateway timeout
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: cannot connect to aardwolf either, i think it's just my ISP problem
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: works for me
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: tried ping, 100% packet lost
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: help me
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: it's just my ISP i think
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: im getting raided
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: reboot?
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: youtube works fine lol
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: other than ping, whats the other command that trace route? 
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: if ever i meet the person who invented javascript, there will be a rumble
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: traceroute or tracert depending on os
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: ok rebooting my phone (wifi hotspot) did work :p
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: thx
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: ping 8.8.8.8 is my goto
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Futile Tech: how d  u set an interval between two commands,for example,i set an alias like this_,u
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Futile Tech: ,u
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Futile Tech: hi
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Futile Tech: u
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Futile Tech: is this channel available
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: sure
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: not many people awake tho maybe :P
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Futile Tech: how do u set an interval between two commands in the alias
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why?
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Futile Tech: such as, ,'u,run 3n,drink,recall',sometimes,you can't drink before recall
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quiet as a Mowse Tech: The mud will do those commands in order so that should work normally, I don't know why you couldn't drink
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: could be some kind of mobprog
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you use mush read this: https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=8172
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quiet as a Mowse Tech: Also, recall will drain half your movement points, so running back again might work better
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Futile Tech: maybe,thx for the information
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Futile Tech: im using blowtorch,know this
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe Shindo will know the answer for blowtorch
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: futile, you should be able to set that as an alias in blowtorch, even bind it to a button. you shouldn't need to wait between drink and the next step BUT personally I'd use gulp fountain, that drinks to full
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and I'd run back OR grab academy portal, enter, run 3n, gulp enter, down, then wear normal hold item
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Futile Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: an easy way to switch back to previous hols item is to store the portal in a bag, start by getting it out, holding it, then end by removing it, storing it and then wear all. that will return to your preportal equipment regardless of what it waa
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alevana Tech: Hello! How do I make an alias with variables? Like I want k1 *mobname* for a first attack on a mob. I don't know much about mushclient so I can't do it clientside, I want to make it in the mud itself.
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: no need for an alias just type k <mob>
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alevana Tech: even if I'm using a mud alias like k1 for a spell?
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: then you can alias K1 <spellname> No need for a variable
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: I mean aslia K1 cast <spellname>
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alevana Tech: Ohhh yeah. I'm using on myself and it worked. Thanks.
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: guys any issue in mud or jsut somehting with my client? rooms I not are showing as not mapped and now tring to buy pass in kobaloi list shows *** Missing default start room - an entry pass
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: guys any issue in mud or jsut somehting with my client? rooms I not are showing as not mapped and now tring to buy pass in kobaloi list shows *** Missing default start room - an entry pass
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: does normal mudside rt kobaloi work to get there?
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: yes
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: only when trying to see list on the shop to buy pass it shows that message
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: but i can still buy 1 and buy 2 to get the passes
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: well it is not a mudside issue
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: i just did a list and it showed
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: ok, was there any update on mush client since yesterday?
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: well fiendish hasn't announced one
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: seems something from my plugins then... need to reload them and see
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: that sounds a lot like s&d causing trouble, try setting the start room to the area before uninstalling all the plugins
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: reinstaling S&D worked
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: list now shows current number and level and such
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: thanks guys
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: what is the command to set area starting room?
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: xset mark
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: thank you Rhendadric
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhendadric Tech: you're welcome
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Wow. The raspberry pi is a great deal. http://pingbin.com/2012/12/30-cool-ideas-raspberry-pi-project/
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: I'm going to turn my raspberry pi zero ($5 computer, with processor, gpu, usb ports) into a dedicated server :)
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chevalier Tech: Programming != Computer Science
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: maybe i need to buy a new phone?  says android version 2.3.7
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: trying to send a photo
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That's gingerbread...that's nearly 8 years old.
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Released: September 2011
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: ok so the phone will not take picturess any more, i can live with that, backward combilitily used to mean something
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The camera API for 2.3.7 should still work.. Did you download a different camera app?
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: i did not load a picture app
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Then there's no logical reason the camera won't take pictures unless you have a hardware malfunction. The camera app loaded onto Android 2.3.7 will still work. You don't have an updated OS, so you're not experiencing backward compatability issues
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: it seems like the camr takes a picture but there is a blank space where i expect to see a picture
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The reason you're on 2.3.7 and not some updated OS, is because you're phone wouldn't be compatible (so they didn't offer you an update). There's no backwards compatability issue here, unless you for reason, shoehorned a newer app onto the OS
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: i do not take many pictures and this thing just started
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Try connecting your phone to a PC and see if you can access the photo that way.
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That lends itself to hardware. You can try factory resetting the device to be sure, but it's 100% not a backwards compatibility issue
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Helperful Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: i sense there are lotta smart folks here and maybe can advise
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: And we are advising...
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: you've been advised :P
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: By two different people.
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mudd Tech: many thanks
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: am i doing something wrong?  i made an aliases with "mf *"    to do "mapper find %1"  and it says thats not a command.. 
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: im on mushclient
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: nevermind i got it figured out if anyone looks at the history. 
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Lemme guess, had to switch it to send to "Execute"?
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jowlem Tech: yea
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I could have sworn there was a function to generate a unique plugin ID. Am I wrong?
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: GetUniqueID
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: That was it. I was seeing only GetUniqueNumber.
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Your 20 tp debt has been partially paid.
T3/r7/2018-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: thank you sir
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: has anyone written an app/program to graphically represent the databas, generated by the mapper, outside of mushclient?
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: Db Browser for Sqlite
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: https://sqlitebrowser.org/
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: umm yes, i even have one that runs if firefox, but that is not what i mean
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: what do you mean then
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: draws what i have put into db
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: hence graphical
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: I'm trying to reword fiendish's mapper backend, for blowtorch
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheriff Shindo Tech: and i know it is putting the data in to my database but I'd like to be able to check it visually
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: idk what you mean by drawing visually tbh
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: he means mapper window
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but as external app
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so he can verify whether his database is correctly updated
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alevana Tech: Hey guys. Anyone able to help? Everytime I go into a room I see the coords for it and my map is not updating in the map window. I'm using the mudclient.
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: hello can anyone remmember me who had picked up WW S&D plugin, i know someone had been working on it but dont remember who.
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feranesa Tech: that would be Starling
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rastlin Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: anyone knowledgeable on making aliases and macros in mushclient? trying to learn how to make an alias clientside with a typable variable. for instance bh witch would c 'burning hands' witch, but just bh would just c 'burning hands'. Been doing this through the mud since beginning of time, but it'd be great if I could make it work in the client and not have to keep aliasing and unaliasing over morts and I have alts that use similar spells. if I could do it through client it'd be universal.
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: and I have trouble understanding mush manual at all
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwwynn Tech: i am not the BEST person to ask, but I think I can help with that if nobody more expert wants to opine. send me a tell.
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: you might want to read Nick Gammon site: http://www.mushclient.com/mushclient/aliases.htm
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: I'll try reading that again...
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: his stuff is pretty good and well explained
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: in your case I would make and alias called 'bh *' which executes 'cast "burning hands" %1'
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwwynn Tech: to me the hardest part to glean from the documentation is how to navigate to it within the client
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwwynn Tech: i think the shortcut is ctl-shift-9
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ursis Tech: thats right, now in there, you click add, then enter the info i sent earlier, and the put 'send to' to execute
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: actually got the navigation part. it was the %1 I needed. The documentation has & and % and all kinds of symbols you can use
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: and I guess I'm stumped on variables vs wildcards etc
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: substitutions...
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: c 'burning hands' %1 still doesn't work
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: when I do bh girl it says You walk up to a girl playing hopscotch and give her BIG HUGS!!!
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hippy Raded Tech: my ghetto solution to this: an in-game alias for "attackspell" that uses my highest level attack spell and use triggers to change it as I level.
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: rofl. which is even more complex than just setting aliasses lol
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hippy Raded Tech: naw, then I get to have macros that just spam attackspell!
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwwynn Tech: there is probably a more elegant solution, but the quick fix i think would be to create two aliases
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwwynn Tech: one for bh and one for bh *
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwwynn Tech: at least, i assume you get the bighug social when you type bh with no argument
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwwynn Tech: but if you made the alias described above, bh [mob name] should be working for you
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: oh wait you had a * in there
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: stupid nvda
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: You could use a regular expression instead.  Something like: ^[ ]*bh([ ]+.*)?$
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: baby steps Durel :)
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: lol brain blown
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hippy Raded Tech: I went with the two alias setup when I did clientside
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: trying to earn the scripting of mush despite the dumb manual lol
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hippy Raded Tech: for psionic blast, regular expression ^psib$ = c 'psionic blast' and not-regular expression psib * = c 'psionic blast' %1
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: one sec. didn't hear the * the first time. lemme try the alias again
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: ok yeah.
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: two aliases it is
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hippy Raded Tech: the lazy solution wins again
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: I still can't understand what a regular expression is for
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: regular expressions match patterns of text
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: ???
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: like, Zeb.ulac matches Zeb followed by any character folloed by ulac
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: hmmm...
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: so
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: google it, interesting and useful for stuff like triggers and aliases and whatnot
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: you could in theory go something like bh to c burning hands. whether you had tet after it or not?
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: text
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: wow ok
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwwynn Tech: yeah, it would just require you to be in active combat to work without a specified target
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwwynn Tech: which is a game mechanic, not an alias mechanic
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: how would you set up that alias? I can see why that is, there is always a target necessary for spells.
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: but if I could learn to do that for all my spells...
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwwynn Tech: just like you said - alias is hb, send is cast 'burning hands'
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dwwynn Tech: or bh
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dwwynn sticks her tongue out, catching a few flies in the process.
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: don't you need a . in it? would that be at the end of the send where the target goes?
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: or no wait that's a checkbox in he dialog nvm
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadvarg Tech: roar no it didn't work
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: I don't use mushclient, but an expression like ^bh(.*)? might work
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: that should match bh following by anything (or nothing)
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: For mush, you should be able to use the one I listed earlier: ^[ ]*bh([ ]+.*)?$
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: that just means "start at the beginning of the line and allow one or more spaces if you want" (cont)
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: followed by bh, followed by an optional "thing" that starts with at least one space
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: It's almost exactly what Zeb suggested, but it catches a few cases you might not think about at first (e.g., you use " bh" instead of "bh")
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zebulac Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old School Durel Tech: It also won't match on bhxxx like the simpler one would.  It requires a space between "bh" and the optional argument.
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: anyone using Blowtorch, know what the equivilant to the * in Mushclient aliases??
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: I realize this is a muchclient-heavy mud (for good reason), but at least take a peek at https://sourceforge.net/projects/axmud for something new and interesting.
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: mush client?
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: or miss on the n to s
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: laf, yes, mushclient. typing is hard.
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Typing is not hard at all.
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley throws his hands up in disgust.
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: better have learned proper keys instead of chopsticks
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: but your good
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I learned proper keys when I was so young.
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: crowley who are you ozzy fan
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Supernatural fan
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Crowley nods at Daagar.
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tantravect Tech: lol
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: never heard of crowley in sn
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tantravect Tech: hes the devil
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Not the devil.
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: why is axmud new and interesting? i mean new is self explanatory, but interesting?
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: King of the Crossroads, King of Hell.
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: so not the angel/devil?
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Not many mud clients (ie., none) come preconfigured to automap 70 muds
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: that's the interesting bit
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: i need to watch all the seasons. lol it would take me a week or more
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: There are 13 seasons. It took me months to watch them all.
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: dang thats alot
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: But then again, I have like 20 other shows I watch.
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: inshould switch this to goss
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crimzon Tech: is 'different'
T3/r7/2018-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Crowley Tech: I don't have gossip on. Don't care for it, but yes, let's take it off this channel. I just won't respond to anything else you say about it, though. *cackle*