T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'what if it turns out that every nth planet has life. would it change anything?'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luc: 'some major religions would probably get abandoned'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I doubt religons would abandoned, but oh my gosh it would change a lot of things'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'yeah. im not interested in religion. but the real life'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think the thing we always forget when talking about planets around different suns, is just how long it takes to get there'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luc: 'religion is important historically and there is still a lot of money/power wrapped up in it, so it would make a difference in real life'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'not dissing religions btw.'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luc: 'especially if it could be proven there was sentient life'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luc: 'or known'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'star trek is fun, but shooting around the galazy is a loooooong way from reality right now'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'ok. but would it really change anything? the way we live? i think not at all'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luc: 'I think it would have a longer lasting overall effect that would only be noticeable over time'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well that's kind of what I mean - I think it really would deeply change the way we think, I mean really deeply, but it might not change the way we act so much'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luc: 'there would be hope that there was another habitable planet and there would be more attempts to develop space-related technology, it would kinda steer the direction a little than what would normally develop otherwise'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'maybe we'd develop some big global defense system just in case'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'theres only nukes'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yeah, Luc - it'd probably make us think a lot more hard about habitint other planets ourselves'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'those are nothing against aliens'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'nukes do only mechanical damage '
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'maybe we need religion to do spiritual damage'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luc: 'that's another direction I was thinking, depending on the amount of knowledge and proximity, it could actually cause a sort of unity for humankind since there is 'another' that could be a potential enemy, so potentially it could bring about more peace'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I mean if an alien had the ability to go so far to another planet then yeah, we'd just have to hope they were nice... That's what I meant before - people underestimate just how advanced you'd have to be to go to a different, habited planet, regardless of whether you became aware of it or not'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'one thing will happen for sure. Stellaris gets a 10% boost in steam. and others try to copy'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'even if we detected very primitive signs of other lives on other plantes, then light years etc, they're waaaay beyond us already'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'see. there is this... advancement thing. there are only a few phyzics puzzle pieces missing. so very few'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'not so much'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'm not sure that's true - I think it's always seemed like that, but never been the case'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'your "always" is less than 100 years old'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmmm - dunno.. I'd say there' more questions than answers, just like always'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'no one has a clue what quantum physics is, we just use the maths to do useful things'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'yeah. not into that. what i mean is... once you can instantly chill every molecule in your body, there is no limits where you can go and explore.'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'fuck time'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well ok you lost me there ;)'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the "report back" would be sadly useless'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i bet in 10 years, there will be a solid way to transport a person in refridgerator'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'and then it will be like "spread the seed!" all over the universe. for people who dont care about dolphins or the Kardashians'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'there will be even a competition who goes first'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'so. if you could go to a new planet. would you sign up?'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'im not crazy. just drunk'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'we won't be able to download our brains and stuff for a loooonnnng time'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) IAC DO Fiendish: 'how far away is the new planet?'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'zubillion inches'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luc: 'depends on who's going, more like how many'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'did you know that there as many neurons in your gut as in a dog's brain?'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'we really don't just think with our brain'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'did you know dogs can talk?'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) IAC DO Fiendish: 'also, we will not be able to unthaw a frozen body alive within 10 years'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) IAC DO Fiendish: 'er, thaw'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'holy word that I won't get flamed for!'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the thing about dogs talking is, humans are idiots and havent figured it out. dogs do talk. all the time. but humans are too stupid'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'actually in all seriously, dogs do talk - just not with human words.. talking isn't just about words, although it seems like it in here *squints curiously* see?'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Pump the Fuel )
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'they CAN freeze people and wake them up in 10 years'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'naah - it's just a scam for getting money out of rich people'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'once it gets real interest, it will happen. '
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'and the interest will grow next year'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's just a hollywood story book thing - it *sort of* makes sense because of frozen peas'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'see. the science gets better not because some gov thinks its cool. but because there is money in it'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'this is a fact'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well yeah, for sure'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'once there is interest, there will be money. and results'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but freezong someone and then thawing them out in the future just has so many holes in it'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'be nice if the us spent hald their defence budget on researching fusion power, but..'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'it only takes about 100bil to figure it out'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'nowadays the oil kingdoms feel safe and spend on bugattis and golden hotels'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'when they see, they could sit on a brand new planet with 100 virgins... omg'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'lol, yeah, with lettuce that costs $100 dollars per smell'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Le do, lo  Shakia: 'it's just a banana, how much could it cost, 10$?'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'and all bananas are the sam'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'literally'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'All bananas are not the same. '
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'But almost all bananas eaten in the west are the same. Cavendish.'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) IAC DO Fiendish: 'named after Lady Cavendish, childhood friend of Queen Elizabeth II, famous for what she was able to do with them.'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'so dirty'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'from interstellar travel to rude bananas in one death'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Holox: 'reminds me of the Princess Diana joke..'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'what are penguins good for?'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Le do, lo  Shakia: 'having knees'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Contigo: 'yes'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Hockey, if you listen to people in Pittsburgh.'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) IAC DO Fiendish: 'knees are important for all the marching'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'how can a wingless bird be asuccessful evolutionaire?'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'in fucking south pole'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) IAC DO Fiendish: 'penguins have wings'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) IAC DO Fiendish: 'also penguins don't only live in the south pole. there are also tropical penguins.'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Le do, lo  Shakia: 'and they are very cute but not as fat'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i didnt know that'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zimith: 'i mean oracs have to eat something'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) IAC DO Fiendish: 'https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galapagos_penguin'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'You can see penguins at the cape of good hope in So Africa. Just little guys.'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'penguins are a an insane twist of evolution'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'so illogical'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Le do, lo  Shakia: 'it doesn't have to make sense to you'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'But not as weird as the platypus.'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Le do, lo  Shakia: 'you are talking meat'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'my grandmother watched the animal shows all the time. and her only comment was "why are there so many of those?"'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zimith: 'i mean you don't have a lot to do as a penguin i guess other then sit around and make more penguins'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'eat a sardine and pop out an egg'
T3/r7/2022-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Le do, lo  Shakia: 'one species(?) gathers enmasse to find mates for life'
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Father Ya Yamillay: 'Golden Showers from a monkey! Yes?'
T3/r7/2022-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Father Ya Yamillay: 'how cute could they be to you'
T3/r7/2022-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Rand Paul is a pig. That is all. We now return you to your regular mudding.'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'what if the word "is" would be erased from every language. what would happen?'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'maybe it would be a better place?'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) NeonTetra: 'my old boss would nto be able to use "isn't it" in every sentence in a wholly non-grammatically correct or sensible way.  example: "I am going the shops, isn't it?" or "you are an idiot, isn't it"'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'old boss or ex boss?'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) NeonTetra: 'Ex boss. He is still running the company and he is now old. Like me.'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'what word would you like to erase from people's mids if it was up to you?'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'minds*'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'the n word'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) NeonTetra: 'what Nenukon?'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'oh, I thought this was a serious discussion'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the n-word is a mental exercise'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the word itself makes you think ahead'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'its like a barbell for the brain'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Antifa Raded: 'are you suggesting that really smart people think about saying the N word all the time'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'no'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but there are very few words that make you .... consider if to use it'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'swarm of phrases. but only a few words'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'hm. when you're coding/scripting something. you know what you are doing, you know what you want to do. been doing this for years. but 10 logic mistakes happen before the thing works.'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'now.'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'with language and human babble'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'there is no control'
T3/r7/2022-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'nothing like it.'
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Thumb Wars: 'thats debatable'
T3/r7/2022-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Emilee giggles.
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'surface temp is 5500C. Webb is 1.3 mil km away. its hottest spot is 56C. it doesnt make any sense'
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'im gonna be looking for alternative science from now on'
T3/r7/2022-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'suns surface temp*'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'do you ever imagine the best version of yourself?'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'm sure we all have, but it changes'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'what's you'r, Fuel?'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'so out of grasp'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I generally don't like the idea that you always have to be improving yourself'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'yeah'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'should you at least be trying'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Father Ya Yamillay: 'I stopped tryin to imagine that when the quality of ladies went down in some places because I acknowledge that a better version of me will never exist.. Better versions of other people are more likely to exist and populate more... Hahaha'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think it happens naturally if you just follow your nose'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'like a field mouse'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'i dunno i've found most things worth having take a lot of work'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but to always be thinking, I need to be better how do I do it, is counter productive'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'i'd say that also applies to improving yourself'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yeah but you work at them because you want them, not because you think it will make you "better"'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'i dont really understand the distinction'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I suppose "better" is mor something that's defined by other people, culture'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'o isee'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's where self help books and seminars come from'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'its a thing. '
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yeah, I suppose I'm just twisting it - but I suppose I'm saying, as long as it's your version of better than of course.. and yes, I imagine that a lot :)'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Le do, lo  Shakia: 'i think having a deadline at all is detrimental in this case'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Le do, lo  Shakia: 'regarding the distinction'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'so the actual key for getting better is still focus'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I suppose thats the thing with "better" - it never ends'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I do want my family and people around me to think that I'm better because of something I did, but honestly in the end I'm not that fussed'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'd quite like it if I was surrounded by people who were happy with what I already am. That wouldn't stop me from doing things, just there'd be less pressure'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i hate balance'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'It's useful on a bicycle.'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'bicycles should be banned. '
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Any particular reason. Beyond requiring balance, I mean.'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I wonder if putting stabilisers on a bicyle makes it "better"'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'I think not, Cil, since conquering imbalance is one of the joys of bike riding.'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it sounds like a fitting metaphor'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Le do, lo  Shakia: 'it is for many, but not for all :P'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Le do, lo  Shakia: 'adrenaline junkies would disagree i think'
T3/r7/2022-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Father Ya Yamillay: 'Mr.Biden's thrivin.. (Debate this).. Is Mr.Biden's thrivin a problem? He even took risks to give some of us some money with the help of his staff and administration..'
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Father Ya Yamillay: 'If not for "Mr.Ron Paul" many of us Americans would have probably never discovered "Riboflavin" so I believe he should continue to question Dr.Fauci.. I don't know about "Dr.Fauci" being the face of science but I know from witnessing that "science" can be very perverted.. So in other words I am saying that "Nobody should wanna be the 'face' of science".. Mr.Ron Paul should when ever he feels necessary should question Dr.Fauci so that more Americans have a chance to know what's going on behind the scenes..'
T3/r7/2022-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Father Ya Yamillay bows deeply.
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'what if we pay an "educator" 200.- for spending 1 hour here?'
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'for fun'
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i wonder how much Jordan Peterson would charge to answer questions in this channel for an hour'
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'im thinking at least 2 tps'
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'one time. my workplace. they called some educators.'
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'for 2 hours i was rubbing my eyes to wake up'
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i mean.. not boring. but crazy'
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but were you educated?'
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'no'
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'at one point one of the educators said a very good sentence. but i forgot what it was'
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but that was it'
T3/r7/2022-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well it sounds The Office wasn't so much of a parody after all :)'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'if we make all human drivers illegal, we could switch to ai like tomorrow'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'yeah. its not a topic'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'cant think of anything good'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'people think ai is a lot more advanced than it actually is'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'youre a human, right?'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'at some point, someone would try to make ai to play aard'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'actually, playing aard would be one of the most difficult things for ai to do'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'and there is no mechanism to ban such hting'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'hm'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I don't mean mechanically, I mean with the talking and things'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it would basically be a near impossible Turing test'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'there was a chatbot 10 years ago that was insanely human-like'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think they only work because they can direct the conversation a little'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'a schoolmate showed this to me. and sadly, forgot the link'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but I've played with some online and they are a lot of fun'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'mainly for forcing them to stay stupid things'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the classic "Alexa, are you a tiny talking fly trapped in a speaker?"'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i talked to this bot for 30 minutes and i was in awe'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'later tried to find it but all other bots were stupid'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I remember chatting with a bot that was pretending to be paranoid'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Pump the Fuel :})
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it was really good - but like I say it always directed the conversation. But yeah fascinating :)'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'so. a betabot'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'would ruin a turing test'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and it'd just ignore your questions if it didn't understand and say things like "wait what was that? I think I heard something"'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'what's a betabot?'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'betamalebot'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'a yes man'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'ahh lol right'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it was good though, it drew you in, so you'd then say things like "what kind of noise"'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and of course it's got a whole series of ways to answer that'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'heh'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'testing'
T3/r7/2022-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'this was OFF by default XD'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'let's debate'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajirobe Roninleader: 'Proposition: Jolo is a stupid name. Yay or Nay?'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'a stupid name for what?'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'actually i use it on another mud'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'as a fact, i am trying the game for the third time, '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'so yeah this is not my third char, just atempting to give it a grasp and play it and so on'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'let's debate, who is best, donald trump or joe biden'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Can't De Cide: 'yes.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'None of the above?'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'i am not frmo the US, so, i just thought i would like to hear tome opinions'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I can't see how anyone can't be worse than Donald Trump'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'best at what?'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I meant *could be worse*'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajirobe Roninleader: 'I prefer Joe Rogan and Donald Duck myself.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'who loves trump?'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'Trump...'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'xcp'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'all others are inconsequential'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajirobe Roninleader: 'BOT!'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'dammit'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'whats ur criteria for best?'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajirobe Roninleader: 'Trump has better American based scandals, whereas Biden has better overseas scandals. It's so tough to choose a favorite!'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'but rumors that obama was a bad president'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'er, president'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'Trump was an utter joke and a rabble rouser'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'an emgomaniac dolt'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Aeisir: 'a crook'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajirobe Roninleader: 'He wore a tan suit once, that was incredulous.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajirobe Roninleader: 'Sorry, that was about Obama'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'people judge presidents by all kinds of standards, our opinions on presidents is just how we feel. In the end I would say Trump just presented a bad standard and broke the mold. Biden looks and feels like every president before obama. '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'a bad standard? blatantly enjoying being part of the elite and pretending to support the less well off? siding with racists and facists? he was en empty showman tking advantage of hard-off Americans without actually doing anything to help them'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'covid 19 is better for you or colira'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'ya i think those things broke the mold of what we expect from presidents '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'pot'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'not anything to the extent than Trump did'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'im saying trump broke the standards he went beyond what we expected from a president'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajirobe Roninleader: 'You have to admit, he had the best racists though. Phenomenal. Superb racists.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'he got you lot actively invading the capital building on a multi million dollar campaign base on the lie that the election was rigged, funded by people who need the money themselves, and then he pocketed the money for himself'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'yeah, he was the Mayor Marion Barry of presidents :-p'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'sorry :) just, he winds me up a lot.. that was funny though Ronin :)'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'to think he was elected by almost/about half of america ...'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'popularism is a powerful thing when a lot of people are pissed off'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'Trump is a criminal who has only avoided prison because of his mob-boss tactics.  He's a thief, a cheat, a liar, a sexual predator, and an idiot.  Not necessarily in that order...'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i dont know why people are always pissed... '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajirobe Roninleader: 'In a battle royale, Cornpop I bet could single handedly take on all the racists!'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'not pissed about it... it is what it is.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'present company excluded'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'because tv is filled with people flaunting wealth while they work ten times as hard and get little to nothing for it'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'a better debate topic: The two-party system in the United States is increasingly failing the American population.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i dont think "they" nor the people will change that'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajirobe Roninleader: 'Yes, I agree with that, Xyzzy.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I suspect it is - speaking from the UK it's definitely not great here either'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'every four years we get to choose between the lesser of two evils.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'how it is increasingly failing the american population?'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'and because there are only two viable parties, they are increasingly moving towards the fringe of each party'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajirobe Roninleader: 'I honestly kind of like the idea of a random citizen being chosen president every 4 years. The chaos would be amazing.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'polarisation leads to entrenchment, and then it just becomes a fight not a debate'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'increasingly failing because the candidates are ever-moving towards the fringes.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'there is no middle-ground any longer.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'identity politics doesnt help that either'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Biden is a middleg-grounder. Which is probably why neither side like him.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I think 2 party systems are the main reason for identity politics'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'think of it as a football game... either American or not...  If you're a fan, everything your team does is fine... everything everyone else does is cheating... that's what politics is becoming in the US'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SonnyQuinn: 'its not democracy that is failing america...its the politicians are allowed to lie in campaign debates and once elected it is almost impossible to get them out and this generation could care less'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean professional politics is naturally going to attract people who lie and connive to get power - it's only natural'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'middle, not middleg :P'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'there should be no such thing as "professional politics"'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garbanzo: 'how about just starting with punishing the rich as harshly as the poor '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i think of it like this: people want to live and have their lives stay the same or improve, politicians want to have power/make money and/or fame and the times dictate their behavior and acceptable methods. Their goals are different that ours and thats why it's dangerous for them to be representing us to begin with'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Cil, it also naturally attracts honest people who care'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but how else could it be done.. just like professional banking is always going to attract people who prioritise their own money'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garbanzo: 'and ethics rules and norms set in stone with teeth to bring politicians back to being public servants '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I agree Rhav, but unfortunately I suspect most of them get chewed up by the rest'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i dont think evolution, be it good or bad in our opinion, can go backwards'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'we cant have our old standards back'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'never trust a person who can change the rules to fit their needs...'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'arbanzo, I'd rather like to see 99% taxes for poor and minimum/no for rich... :) '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'punish the poor!'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'in England, 80% of the top politicians all come from the same elite and very expensive school - they all knew each other and each other's families'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Evolution doesn't go forward, either. It just goes.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'no it goes forward :P'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'evolution is change based around survival'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'survival is good'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'We'll agree to disagree, Hellion'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'though we think that polticians being accountable and beholden to the people is good (and it is) the change the politics has made is also good because it is that which made America so powerful and so volatile. Reigning in the "Tyson" of the world is gonna be tough'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I think no one can disagree that the world as a whole is a better place than it was 100, 200, etc, years ago'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: '100% '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methyl: 'Ideologues don't really function well in political positions. Pragmatists always need something to either enrich themselves or bring something back to their constituency. Lot of rules made over the years to push the pragmatists over to the ideologue side of the house.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and I'd say the main reason is because of the general trend of having more and more people have a say in how things are done'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methyl: 'No incentive to do their job, no job will ever be done. Just barking and making a bunch of noise.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'questionable Cil... especially on Holocaust memorial day...'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'i am glad that in egypt we don't have that drauma which is in the US'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I'm talking about over centuries - go back to the feudal days of kings and queens'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'people say we are ruled by military, despite that this is not true, our rulers wer only former members no more'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'hello its the muslim brotherhood calling'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methyl: 'Here in the states we've seemed to move most of our legislative power on to the judicial and executive branch. Dumb.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'overall, progress has been made by the slow sharing of power'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'The world is a better place in some ways, no doubt. On the other hand, the Siberian permafrost is melting.'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'muslim  áÇÞÎÝÇËÞÇÎÎíÓ åÓ Ô ÝËÞÎÞåÓÝ ÎÞá'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'ouch, muslim brotherhood is a terorist org'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'true, but at least I'm allowed to vote and have an education rather than scrabble for coins in some victorian slum'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'or get raped by a local lord while he's on his tax collection run'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'oh also sorry i shouldnt have said anything cause i only know what i have heard and dont know from a citizen of egypt's point of view'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'what did our media get wrong ... or what did we get right about our coverage on Egypt'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'well, i am 1, so listen up'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Hellion is ready to take notes
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: '1 - muslim brother hood ruled egypt only 1 (one) year, and then they were driven out because of their bad actions which were disliked, and they will never come back because of their terorist acts on the  army'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: '2 - our ruler is not as many people say about him, without this leader, egypt will not be where it is today'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Hellion wonders how many numbers are there going to be 
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'want more?'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i dont want as much as I dont know what to expect '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'my follow up question was "what do the other people in the country feel? The ones that are not in your type of thinking" since im sure 90% dont think the same way but more around 4:60 or 51:49 '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'what would someone from egypt, who disagrees with you, would say?'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'not true, you might be able to say this back in , 2013, but not now'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'these people's actions used the name of islam to achieve hteir goals by saying that whoever does not follow their extreme thinking is not a muslim'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'and then they used islam to say we should blow anything up, ending up blowing churches'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'they killed hundreds, thousands of christians'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'want more?'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i think most people are against wahabis and wahabi-ism, but its scary to see that the ones who do support them are not a tiny minority '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'they attempted to convince people that muslims should not talk with christians'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'fundamentalist thinking is pretty much always bad - it's an extreme version of the polarisation = everything's a fight thing'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'i tell you that the muslim brotherhood were responsible of blowing up a bunch of mosques aroudn egypt'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'two days ago: https://twitter.com/amanpour/status/1486046350206816256'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'sounds like great leadership. sign me up. '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'imo Saudis are the root of problems in the mid east region and America is the Saudi protector. So for the world I think Trump was the comic relief but in general every president has been poop for them (and I would agree)'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'america had its role in training these forces in the past and creating them, which resulted in what we see in afghanistan, iraq, syria and in other places'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'they thought htey could do occupation to mayn coutnries using these ways, but america ended  being exploded  by these forces later'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'they thought they could do occupation to many countries using these ways, but america ended  being exploded  by these forces later'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'unkgirl, ty for that link enlightening'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2022/01/25/US-State-Department-approves-25-billion-arms-sales-Egypt/7761643155144/'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: '@punkgirl*'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'maybe don't complain about America's role and continue to buy our guns. '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'i know what you want to say, you want to talk about the human rights, this is not true, these were things which the muslim brother hood said to ruin the reputation of the army'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'now im more curious about what you have to say to the links punkgirl posted since these are recent/current'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'all large countries sell arms'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's one of the many blatant hypocrasies'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'you want a comment, let's go'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'looks like a great country just by recent photos: Not oppressed at all: https://twitter.com/mrwanmhmwdsyd1/status/1486119205636386820/photo/1'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'let me take thing by thing'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'take your time we are all CPing/Pupping so reading is a welcome distraction :P'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'what i said regarding the US training to the muslim brother hood forces, these were old events in the 90s and at that time to achieve some goals which,  again , had side effects on the country its self'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'it ended with explosions in the US and in europe and other places, sure it effected the  current state of  the middle east because of the current events, egypt is the only one who was rescued frmo such events which were called the arab spring'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'human rights are continued to improve in egypt year by year and including services which are being added to prisons yearly,  but hey, no country is perfect, you in the US have the black people  issue and being unfair at some points, so, look into this first'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'but as a fact, most of the accusations regarding human rights are somewhat much than the truth'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'i am blind so i don't know what is in this imedge sent earlier'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'imedge'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'and that is all what i have to say'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'is it playing? reading outloud what we are typing? '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: '1 last thing, many countries who were affected by terorist acts now know that we were right when we talked about it and that they know that they failed to respond'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'yeah it reads what you send, i get the links copy paste in my browser and read them, the last link was an imedge'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'and many coutnries now help us to fight coutnries  which supports terorism'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'and many countries now help us to fight countries  which support terorism'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'now i think i answered everything'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'unless i forgot something'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'just to clarify, you are saying more than 60% of the country agrees with your sentiments now? '
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'sure, other wize our current president would not have gotten more than 85 percent of the  votes  in the elections a few years back, many people knew where is the light and where is the darkness, some still follow the path of the darkness which is supported by some countries which devoted some channels'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'to me, personally it is so hard to comprehend 85% supporting one over another, usually the two choices have a closer split in support otherwise why even run against the 85% person'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'i can confirm he got his support from just 10 representatives in the house of representatives in egypt, he does not have support from the people'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'let's debate, shall i wait for a quest or explore around'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'both at the same time!'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'how that'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well, explore around, and you'll be simulatenously passing the time until your quest'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'so what to explore hmm'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'just saying, not trying to be too heavy, but is there anyone from Ukraine here?'
T3/r7/2022-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hey America can you please maybe just stomp on Russia please? (don't mean it literally, do mean it, don't mean it)'
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'let's debate, american acccent or british accent, american for the win'
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Iron Duck Chuft aims the crosshairs..Jolo collapses in a pool of blood.
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: '*chuckle*'
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Jolo chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'i see that the british accent is hard to pronoucne'
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'er, pronounce'
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'let's debate, studying in the night or in the afternoon'
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yunalesca: 'I usually study in the afternoon'
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'some prefer the dark nights, '
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SonnyQuinn: 'well depends if you have kids or not...if you do then night if not afternoon'
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'kids are funny to study around'
T3/r7/2022-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SonnyQuinn: 'well my little girl wont let me focus on anything but her so not to much will be studied'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'if a fruit falls off the tree, is it dead?'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'when is fruit considered "dead"?'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'how far did the apple fall from the tree?'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nifto: 'first you must define life'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'anything that consumes and excretes, and has some amount of agency?'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the definition of "life" wold have hard time with the fruit problem'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think maybe the strawberry plant is alive, but the fruit itelf isn't, directly. So once it's not part of the plant anymore, it's not alive'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but the seeds are alive.. or not?'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'no I don't think the seeds are alive, at all'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'lol'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I know what you mean though - stick one in some soil and water it, and all of a sudden the seed starts to consume, and creates a living strawberry plant'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'let's debate, cats or dogs'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'in your personal preference'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jolo: 'go with creativity'
T3/r7/2022-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'in that case - cats, since they make the better mops'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'Nesamdoom I don't really understand all the politics of it, but for all the failings of the US, it still stands for freedom, and I know I'm young and naieve, but it's scary to think Russia will do it again without someone with a big stick saying no!'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'I'm sorely disappointed in some of the comments that have been made on this channel. How should I express my displeasure?'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'wag your finger first, then write a formal complaint, and then eat it'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'aha head offender! "Seeds aren't alive" lol'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'fine, I'll argue about going on the debate channel here so as to not flood gossip with the exchange over whether or not to talk here'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'aha!'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Nesamdoom was caught! Run! Channel police monitor SNEAKER Mushambo is after you next!
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'so, when is the us going to tell the Russians to stay the heck out of Europe?'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'i actually was feeling the convo was going towards being over here.'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'I'm pretty sure bashing Russia goes well on every channel?'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'i dunno, biden was there when obama told russia to stop fucking with them back in like 08 or whenever... but it's whether we wanna go to war ready really over stuff.'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it won't go to war'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'as far as I can see Putin's just a bully'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'i'll give russia that they figured out stale bread and inedible fruit could be boiled and make dirty river water into a light beer.'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'if Russia had all the power, I'd be very very scared, but'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'putin is a bully. and he's a weak one. he tries way too hard to show how tough he is like kim and trump. that stuff isn't needed, not when you have a superpower behind you'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I really feel like not suppressing the people of a country is always the best way to grow, and therefore become globally powerful. But I know that's idiolistic'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'russia has surplus wwii stuff like crazy. but, they can't use it much for anything. they got loads for ground war and they got fighters, but they aren't really able to do much else besides launch missiles'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'surely there's no way it'll come to war'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'Russia can't grow from within, negative repopulation rate. Vodka's a hell of a drug'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but I do get worried about Russia posturing around Ukraine, just kind of pathetically nipping away because they know other countries won't actually really go in hard'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'Cil, we don't all have the benefit of the worlds longest running empire. But yea, being nice to citizens is a good way to get positive contributions from them rather than send them into dissonance and rebellion'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'for the record, I though Trump was more flimsy that Putin'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'that's kinda the thing, they see the world not doing anything when they fuck with ukraine and so they fuck with them more and it's emboldening. Russia knows that most of the world will fuck them up if they are dicks. so they be mild about it. the options are gonna eventually be extinction or getting along and everyone  is gonna have to have their niche.'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'i'd not be surprised if putin was literally giving it to trump in their secret meetings.'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I have aboslutely no insight into Russian culture at all'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'no better novelists!'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'actually I have read some russion novels, and pretty much loved all of them'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'i know more about russian culture in the early 20th than I do now. and that's just from reading things like books from Alexander Berkman'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'what was the brothers book? I started it but never finished because I moved and had to return it'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I've no idea - I read a few Dostoyevski, and anna kerinin'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'without knowing anything at all, I do have a feeling that China will always hold back'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'like maybe they understand that direct military action id bad publicity'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'whereas putin is just trying to promote himself as the half naked horse riding, rifle aiming twat, because Russians love it'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'they aren't stupid. they've been keeping their shit together for thousands of years. I doubt they'd risk it on stuff they didn't need to. like anything not actually a threat to them would be a bad play. they even told NK to chill out or they wouldn't back them.'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'is it too late to order the Putin 2022 calendar ? :-('
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill giggles :))
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'the funny thing is that putin can posture as much as he wants, but in the US we have ppl still riding horses and shooting for a living. putin isn't out doing that for supper, he's doing it for photo op.'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'the brothers karamazov by dostoevsky is the book i was thinking of'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'barely got into it though before returning to the library when i moved. '
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'you know though, with all this news about Ukraine and things, I looked at the map of the world, and Russia is HUGE!! like, if it actually ever did mobilise - whatever that means - they'd be super big'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'nah, russia isn't very big.'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'Crime and Punishment always sticks out for me'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'the ussr was'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'what? it's massive!!!'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'but the former satellites don't all agree with russia and it's unlikely the ussr would reform without them having to take over a bunch of it.'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but, so this goes back to my optimistic thing before - I sort of feel that unless the population is engaged, you can't take advantage of it. And to engage the full population, you need to have benefits for all, and more democracy and freedom'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'so like the only way Russia could blow up and be what it could be, is if it was kind of nicer, rather than this semi-repressed state'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'somewhat. many satellites were pretty much just working for russia and almost none got benefits from it. several have done well since the split and they wouldn't want to go to being subservient to a less efficient or less free country'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'lol, so it is bigger than the us without the satellites but it's also like 40% the population because it's a baren snowland. like canada is huge too, but like 90% of them live on the us border'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'just feels like Russia is running on about 20% efficiency, and if it could get itself together, it'd be something quite different'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean who wants to emmigrate to Russia?'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'yea, but thats like saying the same about Montana'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'or Wyoming or Iowa or alaska'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'better to be afraid of tightly condenced engineers than wide spread poets.'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well that went quite far over my head :)'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'tokyo has almost a third of russias population.'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I sort of know what you mean'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'right'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'i just listed states where you could be living a mile or more from your neighbour'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'you know - this is kind of like a thing I always think about immigrants - so you have an issue with it in the US, as do we in the UK, but actually, surely the amount of people wanting to emigrate to a country is directly related to how well that country is doing?'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'like, if Russia sorted themselves out, they have soooooo much land and resources that they could accomodate a massive influx od people, and then they'd be this huge and powerful country rather than some kind of political barking dog for China'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'the issue with immigrants in the us is way misrepresented. i live in a neighborhood full of mexican, central amaerican, and africans. i fucking love it. ppl are super nice and the food is amazing.'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well that's what I mean - it's actually a huge compliment that someone wants to come and live in your country'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the arguments against are always like "there's no room!" which is kind of nonsense - but makes maybe more sense in countries like uk and Japan - in the US and especially Russia, there's so much space and resource'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'if Russia became a nice place, I think it'd take over the world'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'russia could actually do very well that way. they have lots of space and people would be willing to put money in to having very remote homes. its a thing here in alaska. ppl will spend a bunch to just not have neighbours. but they could also develop a bit and set up places for refugees to come to and industry around would follow and cities would form from migrant influx. itd def help the country if they wanted that'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'again though, this is just my hopeful dream that in the end, being nice will win :)'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'yea, ppl look at the us and think of new york or la and think its crowded. its not. and its super cheap to live here in places that arent crowded. its only expensive to live in cities which is the worst place to live here. but it makes more money so ppl go that way thinking they are benefitting even tho they end up with less money than others. in the midwest you can work one or two days a week and support yourself. thats fucking winning compared to ppl working 80hours a week in a city and having a smaller place and less free money.'
T3/r7/2022-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'i would def love it if being nice turned out to help. ita not going well for me personally but globally itd be cool yo see it'
T3/r7/2022-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'people selling rank stuff for 30k QP ... sell a portal between 500 gold and 3m and everyone loses their mind.'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Thumb Wars: '.*taps mic* test test is this thing on?'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'Vyndalas: so long as you are not encouraging harm to others r being discriminating towards people in general, I believe you are fine'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'isn't today discrimination is towards specific race/gender/sexual identity etc. not humans in general?'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'what is I disilike all humans and only love dogs (or cats)? :D'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'if*'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'thats stuff people say that means nothing'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Can't De Cide: 'the majority of peopel i feel take things too personal and it gets twisted into that sometimes yes.'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mael screams, "NO U!11!!" Feeling insulted, you feel an urge to retort!
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Can't De Cide: '- h 20'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Can't De Cide: 'neat'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Antifa Raded: 'where's the interesting stuff'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Antifa Raded: 'there's no content here yet'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'which pizza is the best, and why is it hawaiian'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Can't De Cide: 'i woudl debate this but i agree...'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): A winner is Mael!
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Antifa Raded: 'you people are sick'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'this question can't be answered'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'because one of the assumptions seems to be wrong'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'ham and pineapple, seconded'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daargo: 'Hawaiian pizza IS the best. Give me a huge slice of Hawaiian, a super hoppy IPA, and a flannel patterned towel to wipe my huge beard with and I'm in my happy place.'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'gross'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajirobe Roninleader: 'I personally am a huge fan of mashed potato pizza.'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'peas on top ftw'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'Proposed: Help Conduct is more important than help rules. Debate amongst yourselves'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Antifa Raded: 'I had tuna and corn pizza once that was really good'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Lasher goes:
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'olive, artichoke with a mix of mozarella and scamorza, probably with a sour dough base, cooked with a wood oven.'
T3/r7/2022-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Count Zensch is agreeing with that Swalec person again...
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'how many global variables a standard human being has?'
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hunger, temperature, stress, love'
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'lunch time'
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'see told you'
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the varables that ALWAYS have to be available no matter what happens'
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'blood ph?'
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'levels of quite a few endocrine hormones'
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'it seems, hear me out. a human is different from a bot because it can push a variable forward'
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'from inside'
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: '"it" being human'
T3/r7/2022-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'meaning*'
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'great - us and uk citizens told to leave Ukraine.. flippin Putin!'
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i bet its Russias way of making them seem significant'
T3/r7/2022-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'ok just saying (again) since it's war and peace - but US and UK citizens have been told to leave Ukraine while they can'
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i think the movie trailers nowadays.'
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the acting'
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the actors are learning from pc games'
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'its exactly like fucking pc game'
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'and what is a pc game you ask?'
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'a pc game is a fucking job'
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'a pc game nowadays is fucking work.'
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'someone tells your "character" do this do that'
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'wtf is going on?'
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'its not debatable. its a fact'
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'youre playing a game. but its a work. for nothing'
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'you ok buddy?'
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'no'
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'cant play games or watch movies no more'
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'its all the same'
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'its work'
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'are bad movies and good movies equally work?'
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'everything is work'
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'in 2050 we will have robots that play games for us and tell when something interesting happens....'
T3/r7/2022-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the bots will replace the streamers. it might be a good thing'
T3/r7/2022-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'Resolved, the Coinbase ad was stupid and it's ridiculous so many people consider it "genius marketing"'
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'testing '
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i am legit wanna know whats the issue'
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'is Tinypotato the cutest name in this game?'
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'obvious solution is obvious - everyone start playing progress-quest.  also, yes.'
T3/r7/2022-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'also, how is it keep forgetting about this here sports channel?'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'who wants to talk'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'who knows whats going on in canada?'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'what if you suddenly had a second tongue'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'would you hide it? or flash it?'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Azamoff: 'use it'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'how?'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Azamoff: 'any way you would use a regular one'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i take my tongue as granted'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Azamoff: 'for granted? how so'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'cant do it with the second one'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'its probably the 1st time in months that i pay attention to my tongue'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Azamoff: 'do you ever think about how something is always touching your skin but you most of the time you dont notice'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i never even think about thinking about it'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Azamoff: 'haha'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I can't believe 2 tongues is more debatable than when someone's going to make Putin stop being such a nutcase'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'oh that'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'no good way out for anyone'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'whatever he tried to achieve turned upside down'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but who knows'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'future me knows'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'and future-you'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Azamoff: 'ooo what did i miss, from tongues to Putin'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Azamoff: 'interesting transition'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MidKnight Gladacus: 'Well either way, wouldn't that border on politics'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'if you lose your vocal cords. but can go on with a simulated computer voice, which one would you pick?'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'james earl jone'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'oooh'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'id do that now if it wasnt completely stupid'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but what if you was a women kind?'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'hmmm...Christopher Walken'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'as a woman'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'be serious '
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'i dunno, maybe Lisa Simpson'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'who has the sexiest woman voice in the world right now?'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'this just in. i commented a map in a certain way. and they asked "are you ok?"'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'in another game'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: '... ok.. mentally'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'something like that happened here'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'some bickering. and the response is "are you mentally ok?:'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'its a new thing'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the new thing'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: '"everything new and improved" y'all know there's now Starburst and Skittle flavored energy drinks?'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'my concern is'
T3/r7/2022-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'you express something. if its out of the normal, it's taken as a mental issue'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'alright, who of you knows whats going on in canada???'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Azamoff: 'what thing in particular?'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'look spretty mental, but RUSSIA IS ABOUT TO INVADE EUROPE!!!'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i know most euro news is focused on ukraine, but canada is in dire straights'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mockable Korridel: 'Racist right wing protest led by known nazis/proud boys stormed the capital, refused to comply, funded by US politicians and foreign bodies (thus being a foreign terrorist impact), and has forced the invocation of the Emergencies act to deal with the threat it became.'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Azamoff: 'only thing i know about canada is the crazy strict rules Trudeau wants to keep in place and the economy shut down from the blockade'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'our prime minister involked the emergency act (renamed, war measures act) on its own people'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'now, federal police can advise banks, financial institutions, and insurance companies to freeze/suspend without a court order'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Azamoff: 'thats no good'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mockable Korridel: 'If you believe that Azamoff, you clearly haven't listened or paid attention at all. What is being proposed is ensuring FINTRACT oversight on things like crowdfunding to avoid financial funding through disparate means, as well as looking at putting rules on crypto funds.'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'korridel, where are you from?'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mockable Korridel: 'Canada.'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'you're in favour of our pm's actions?'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Azamoff: 'eh cant say i agree with ya Korridel'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mockable Korridel: 'When it was seen that this was foreign funded and a political call for violence and upheaval of the government? Yeah. That's the LITERAL NEEDS of the Emergencies act.'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'are you in favour the of calling jewish members of our house and families of holocaust survivors as "standing with the swastika"?'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'PM'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mockable Korridel: 'Gotta put the kids to bed - if this devolves into antisemitism Gaury, I'm absolutely going to revoke your channels.'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmQghqnni4k'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'its not'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'these are the words of our prime minister'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'when you come back, watch the link...if you want, and we can debate from there'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mockable Korridel: 'Simply put - The trucker protest was organized, led, and continued by right wing, nazi fascists. End point. That is not for discussion. Pat King, Lich, https://www.antihate.ca/the_freedom_convoy_is_nothing_but_a_vehicle_for_the_far_right'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'im talking about the house of commons'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mockable Korridel: 'They are violent (they led the attack on parliament hill 2 ish years ago to test the limits).'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'all kuz ppl are scared of getting a shot? seems a bit much'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'wow, Canada is all over the place!'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but just saying - RUSSIA IS LOOKING TO INVADE EUROPE!! ;)'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'there has been NOTHING violent about this protest other than the words coming out of our prime minister, and at the hands of police'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Iron Duck Chuft: 'will you gnaw their ankles off for us, cil?'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill sharpens teeth
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Thumb Wars grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i feel attacked that one might assume that i would/could even be willing to be racist, i understand the concern for public discourse, but im trying to have a healthy conversation about something i care about deeply'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAOUmnSs5VA gettem!'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'one of the problems with politics is that the politicians tend to be more concerned with making their political enemies look bad than just trying to sort something out'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'case in point, justin trudeau'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'he'd rather call extraordinary powers to his hand than try resolve or even CONSIDER the idea of relaxing restrictions'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'like father, like son'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i think because he is an elected official and he is doing what more than a 75% majority want'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: '16% of canadians approve of his leadership currently.'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'source?'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'also on the issue of mandates hows the split?'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'your question is vague'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'do you have a source for the 16%?'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'im finding it'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/15/politics/fact-check-canadian-protests-polls-trudeau-support-oppose-truckers-mandates/index.html'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: '"The poll they were citing, conducted by Maru Public Opinion, did not even ask people if they would support Trudeau in another election or wanted him back as prime minister.'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i dont trust cnn sources'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'its not their source its their cited '
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'soprry i turned off channel by mistake after cited*'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'if u said something could u repeat please'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'Hellion that link says that only 16% of people would vote for Trudeau'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'no it says WHY thats wrong'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'u have to read more than 2 paragraphs :P'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oops sorry *reads on*'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'well i cant find the source that i was looking for, i saw several videos giving that statistic but i cant find the souce, ill retract that statement'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'hellion where are you from?'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'your source is cited in the cnn link i posted'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'double check that so i know if they r correctly citing your information first'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'if they arent and its fake news then we can start without them :P'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'but i think i am addressing one sentence you wrote more than hearing you out on your entire stance, what is you overall opinion so i can see, maybe i agree xd'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'im asking where you're from'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'bah - polls and statistics - 90% of polls have questions that intentionally skew the headline, etc..'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'is that important? if im not from alberta or if im saint hubert in mtl or mississauga in toronto area?'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'when this source says "The online survey was conducted among a random selection of 1,523 Canadian adults who are "Maru Voice Canada panelists" and weighted by education, age, gender, and region to match the Canadian population." ...'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'thats not a very large sample size'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'thats actually THE source for your 16%'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'and mathematrically speaking 1500 is more than plenty specifically if its random'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'specifically the question is is it random or is it random FROM a certain group cuz thats called sample bias'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'im quite well aware of how sample bias is formed, thank you. '
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'anyways, to the point at hand'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'also im sorry im not implying u dont know something'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'do you support the emergency act being involked?'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'thats never my intention'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'talking with my canadian friends here on aard, ive yet to meet anyone who is in favour of it on here'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i dont have a strong opinion of the method, i think it was a rock and a hard place and he did what he and his advisors thought would be the best for their interests. I don't really think "what would I do" cause thats silly, i dont have all the info at hand'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'do i think it was "too much?"'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'do you support trudeau accusing jewish members of house saying (they) "stand with the swastika?"'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'hmm we will see is my opinion, i more look at reality and necessity and less about ideals'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'source on that quote? '
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'have you watched/are you watching any of the house debates?'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i posted the link before, ill post it again'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmQghqnni4k'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i apologize if i missed it and ty for reposting '
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'please watch that, im going for a smoke, we can talk more'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'sounds good ty'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'so far i hate this speaker hes not doing his job AT ALL'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'last year, singh was removed from the house for calling a member racist, seems like all 3 speakers arent doing their job, or our PM'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'truddy used godwins law, and the "bill clinton hand gesture" Dane lloyd is just trying to wear a victim hat'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I have to say I agree - I know it's all a bit daft, but he's really a wet blanket :)'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'thats called whataboutism'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'its irrelevant what people have done or not done, this instance is what we are examining'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'but im 4 mins in lets let everyone recover their integrity'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'rather dignity :P'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'when the prime minister walks out on a question demanding an appology for an overtly racist comment, there's a problem'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i personally dont think an apology or feeling shave a place in business/politics discussions'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'them demanding an apology is a show, they dont GAF but that was their come back'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'say sorry bro .... '
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'like um wut??? what would i do? if i was truddy, i woulda said im sorry '
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'yeah, but he doesnt and walks out after an appology is demanded'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'which i think is ok as well, my goals arent to make people happy i woulda said sorry cause im gonna destroy them debate and not feelings :P'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'so saying sorry is just to appease them so they stop crying'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's not very parliamentary for sure'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Gaury crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Cilmarill.
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I do get a little annoyed how everyone just seizes on an easy negative headline though'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i think asking for an apology on the floor is really um immature'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'scott is 100% right'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'reid'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'the lady who said im "jewish" is riding her victim position esp since shes lgbtq'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'scott reid said it right tho '
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'or she was legitimatly offended for being associated as standing with the swastika?'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'its ok to be offended but thats not important currently'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'right? like im offended? so?'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'thats how YOU feel right?'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'like mention jewish, swastika, and the media are literally drooling. And Trudeau should know that, regardless of anything. I mean - idiot right?'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'the floor is not for feelings BUT truddy shouldnt have said the swastika comment it was a bad ploy'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'he never said jewish tho'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'like ever'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'he accused an entire party of standing with the swastika'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'he didnt even specify he said conservatives who support these illegal protests are ok with standing with swastikas'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'right yes, ok - but he should know it'll blast him in the face'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'he has before actually'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i can try find the link if you want'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'that would be helpful'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'ive watched the question period in full nearly every day for the past 2 months, it might be harder to find'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'BUT what he did do was try to descredit a group by saying "some support this shit" so um ....'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'and thats akin to adhominem'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'he didnt say some, he infered ALL'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'but dont worry this is isnt unique to CA'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: '"those that support" isnt implying a number '
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'erm *googles adhominem* ;)'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'it could be most or some'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'he's putting up straw man fallacies all over the place bro'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'no not straw but yes ad hominem'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'strawman specifically would be to say they r doing X and then debate with X with a rebuttal '
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'but hes not even addressing that position hes using it to descredit and polarize'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yeah the man who lept up (conservative) and escalated Trudeau's comments to be about *all* conservatives was clearly just trying to escalate things'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'The typical straw man argument creates the illusion of having completely refuted or defeated an opponent's proposition through the covert replacement of it with a different proposition (i.e., "stand up a straw man") and the subsequent refutation of that false argument ("knock down a straw man") instead of the opponent's proposition.[2][3] Straw man arguments have been used throughout history in polemical debate, particularly regarding highly charged emotional subjects.'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i didnt google that guy but i can 100% guarantee that mans accomplishments are lacking'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'ye he didnt do that gaury BUT we do agree there was a logical fallacy and the pm said something that shouldnt be used or that weak tactic shouldnt be present in debate and then the conservatives followed suit and used appeal to emotion'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'painting an entire group of people as one narative is a slippery slope for sure'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well it's at best naieve right? I mean Trudeau just gave them a free shot. Politically Correct is an (annoying) phrase for a reason'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'but i really want us to more worry about the big picture, just to rewind you think he should not have used emergency powers, and that in principle he didnt have the right to. I am 100% sure if its not in his power there will be litigation. BUT is he allowed to make bad decisions, he unfortunately that was within his power'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i just hope it doesnt pass the senate'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'ye neither side had any comments of substance but IMO this is the bullshit of the world, people at large support big words and big noises not inform,ation'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i dont think people should bow to those who r smarter but i think credibility should have a place in leadership'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'and by leadership i refer to anyone who is a leader or whom we choose to follow'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i think accountability should lend more weight than credibility'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'why weigh them?'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'why not consider both'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'they're mutually inclusive'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'not at all lol'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'wut?'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'mutually exclusive means someone cane be credible and accountablke'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'when in fact thats not the case, '
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'WAIT my bad'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i said INclusive'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'u said inclusive so that means u agree they both can exist'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'ye ye sorry bud'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i had a stroke :P'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'so i would look for both and not one'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'and i said, accountability should lend more weight than credibility'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'how do you measure it?'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'do you agree that most people have a measure of both?'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'some have more X and some have more of Y'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'depends on whats being defined as accountable'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'umm surely you can't be credible unless you're accountable'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'any way u defrine it'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'you can be credible without being accountable, thats every dictatorship'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'its a logical statement that people have diff degrees of ANY mutually inclusive things'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'right ur saying u can meaning ur speaking top the exceptions, im saying most people '
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'most people have credibility and acountability'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'and that most is a BIG number'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'no I don't think so - credulity is subjective, it's not some kind of nation-wide hypnotic state'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'and im suggesting that most of the people ive talked with (friends, family, colleagues) are not in favour of this emergency act'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i dont think it is either BUT whoever defines it using logic and not emotion will say that most people have both :P '
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'the boarder blockades were already resolved before trudeau involked it'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'thats the second time uve mentioned what you have noticed, thats anecdotal and really goes back to your "sample size" comment'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: '1st was canadians in aard and now people u know, both are irrelevant because they arent a fair sample or random'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'sure, my small circle, obviously biased...ill go with that, im giving a first count experience from who i know, and thats not sufficent for a standard...its an example'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'ye anecdote i get it but what if i said so?'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'whats the response?'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'the big question is...are these emergency powers "necessary"'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'what do you think?'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'the fact that they are retroactive, is disgusting IMO'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'hmm well i refer back to what i said early early i dont think i have enough information to say what is and isnt necessary. I can only state what something feels like, '
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'have you watched the debate in house yesterday and today about it?'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i think healthy skepticism is the right position with trust in the process. '
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'please dont make me watch another yelling match of giasnt toddlers'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'well, if you dont hear what they're yelling about...its going to be pretty hard to argue what they're arguing about'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'ok ill try aghain but if this video also has the same bullshit as the first with no information and just rhetoric'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'imm say 2 strikes for me no more youtube '
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'maybe ill change approach here...'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_GnClytz34'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'ty for helping me find stuff'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'thoughts from an outsider, but still interesting perspectives'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I know nothing really about any of this but I suspect no one does. However certainly I'd say I'm shocked at how out of control Canada seems to be (Canada is known as a reasonable country) also I will *whisper* Russia might invade Europe ;P'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'cil, watch that link pls :)'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'erks Russel Brand!'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i will say he mostly quotes elliot kaufman, just as a point of dialoge for an article...maybe not general enough...but trudeau has a pattern of doing shady shit'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i used to watch russel brand really did but i realized hes just speaking on shit to stay relevant and he believes a lot of kooky stuff (not an attempt to discredit its just hard for me to be patient with all info when its sprinkled wioth "they" and what "they" want) lol but here we go'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'just go with it for a bit'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'will do for the sake of our discussion '
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'CP and YT lol'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'he's generally thought of as a pretty self interested contrarian here'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'ill be the first to say Brand is not my cup of tea, but he brings up some good points'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I do mostly agree with what he says and I'm sure he's more clever than me :)'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'you're only 5 min in :P'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oh this is not my first Russel Brand experience ;)'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'his argument is effectively that this implimentation of emergency power is a show to face, you no longer have the right to protest peacefully.'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'ok most of that went flying over my head :)'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'so far hes just reading the literal article that was cited in my link, line by line then giving his own editorial response'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'hes not even informed or done any research hes just reading ONE article :P'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'hes got all these ideas on shit he didnt even try to research FIRST'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'hes a narcicist and LOVES the soap box :eyeroll:'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'meh that video what how he feels about reading one article that did not help any side it was as if joe rogan had an opinion THOUGH i will say joe rogan does a bit more research ... or rather jamie does :P'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'sorry for typos ill rephrase/correct if needed'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'he brought up some very important points though that should be discussed as part of the total dialoge of the mandates and act'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i dont think he said anything that wasnt in the article sadly'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i didnt want to "bother" you with hours and hours of house questions'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'believe me i would rather the hours lol'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'cause i can 100% put it on speed play XD'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'you're more than welcome, its pulic information'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'can you share please it just hjelps me out :P'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'im doing an epic, maybe later'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i just dont go to youtube for opinions :/ i usually go  here fgor bios / docus and free YT movies XD'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'ya no rush bud'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'ty againm '
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmFOaCXUWPU'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'this is 5 mins ! lol ok lets do it tho ty (dont die in the epics)'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'do you want full streams of both days?'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'm already lot - he said 'mask' too many times'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'whatever u think will help me get the full picture'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'lost'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'lol hes a bum for bringin up bullshit thats not not mandated and encouraged'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'the entire question of the protest is where is the science that mandates are effective'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'the dude whos responding is at least making a clear statement '
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'however hes using the argument "we didnt do this before, why now?" thats dumb, instead it should be WHY is it ok now or not ok '
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'but he is well spoken'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'then hippie hair gives a jab/snide remark lol for no reason yo these children'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'then he retracted his statement and the "children" start yelling "pUt yOuR mAsK oN"'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'watch this, if you cant see the arguments for what these are worth, i cant help'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II0SXu8nIow'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'remmeber ur not trying to "help" you are trying to share information '
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'this was today'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i have so far seen in 3 videos peoples being children with no information HOWEVER Pablo Rodriguez the hippie hair said something very poingant "how about we talk about this bill" '
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'watch this last link, i can provide you with full links of the entire emergency debate im sure later'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'if you want them'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'ye no rush and i will'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'none of it makes very much sense to me, but I did enjoy the bit where he said "her majesties loyal opposition" ha! we own you! ;P'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'ill finsih this video a bit later tho, to be continued. I just instantly got tired from these people (reminds me why i and MOST people we all know, hate politicians)'
T3/r7/2022-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'ok this is my official capitulation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFtAz6Xnn5U'
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'what is most important?'
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Can't De Cide shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i see what you did there'
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'now you can change your pretitle'
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'after all those years'
T3/r7/2022-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'what is the ultimate question?'
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'its so weird that happyness is not about feeling good at all'
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i think you might be doing it wrong, f.'
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'im drunk and serious'
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'not happy'
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'smoke some weed'
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'yup.  doing it wrong.  drink better stuff, get happy.'
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'moral = good... but not. its right'
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the right thing may not be good at all'
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'and good may be awful'
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'awful may be good sometimes'
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'might*'
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'drink better stuff, avoid the question :p'
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'whats the ultimate question to avoid then?'
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'all of them.'
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Russia has invaded.'
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'Covid's over, back to doin the war thing'
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Menpehtyre: 'at least the tweets are nice /sarc'
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Well, maybe not actually invaded. All air attacks, but no troops on the ground. Yet.'
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Check that. Tanks moving in now.'
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'gross'
T3/r7/2022-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'h'
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'so who thinks putin's lost his mind?'
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yay Putin! what a nice fellow!'
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Antifa Raded: 'the bots have gotten cil oh no'
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'holds onto Raded's leg for dear life'
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: '144.1m sheep'
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: '0 respect for Russia from now on'
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SonnyQuinn: 'well alittle for threatning the whole world...but the balls it took for them to do that will come with consequences for alot of innocent people'
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'psycho dont feel fear. no need to respect those. but i wasnt speaking about Putin'
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i was speaking for the whole Russia'
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'this country deserves no respect'
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'about*'
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SonnyQuinn: 'i agree'
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SonnyQuinn: 'the world gets over panic about a pandemic created by one world power just to get threatned with nuclear war from another'
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'is there even one Russian person who feels good abot bombing Ukraine?'
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'maybe'
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SonnyQuinn: 'well i am sure there is..'
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but Putin is too scary'
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'scary man'
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'so scary'
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SonnyQuinn: 'lol not to an american...'
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'yep'
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'the man got elected then changed the laws so he can never be removed :P the diff between him and ping is that the chinese for the most part have a good life so they can overlook the things they might miss or not have'
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'but the only people in russia havin a good time... are the rich'
T3/r7/2022-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'which is never the majority and yet ... hes in power'
T3/r7/2022-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I tried, Alucard'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'lol Putin == Trump'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'just watched the news about the Russian state media has banned the words "war" and "invasion"'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'what do they call it'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'There is no war is Ba Sing Se'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's a "mission"'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Menpehtyre laughs at Cilmarill mercilessly.
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'seems that putin has even less respect for truth and free speech :)'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'An urgent mission to deliver bullets, bombs, soldiers, and tanks to Ukraine in its time of need.'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'What do you think will happen if Ukraine start to lose? Will anyone intervene?'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I don't think there'll be any official army from other countries getting involved'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'feels like Putins loosing his mind'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'scary if true'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oh god yes'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'well any person threatening to use nukes on a country it invaded, is nuts'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'Ukraine is the only country to voluntarily give up nukes'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's hard to imagine what Putin's world is like - a small number of people desperate to impress him, heads nodding, etc'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'honestly it just makes me have more belief than ever in the power of the internet - if the Russian people had free reign to explore the whole world's opinions, surely something would happen'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'he does have some support there'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'plenty of people want in Russia want it to return to its glory days as a world power'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'make Russia great again'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'Nationalism hasn't done the world a lot of good'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but Russia really could be great, it's huge and powerful, so get on with it and then the whole world will be a better place. Instead of feeling paranoid and actually invading countries - just bloody wake up to the 21st century!'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'lol, so many ppl are so delusional :D '
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'if I was Russian (and had free access to world media) I'd be utterly embarrassed - so I can't help but think that most of Russia (maybe secretly) would think the same'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'im not sure most russians even know whats going on'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'being American (my assumption) and speaking how bad is invading other countries... sweet :D '
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'problem is in Russia if you go to a protest you get dissapeared'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'You can hate what Putin is doing while being from a country that has also done bad things'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'all countries doing bad thigns... which are good for them'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'yes, and I'm against all of it'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yes for sure - I mean it's fine to get all self righteous, but while I have no real understanding of the middle east and all that, I know that the UK is only to happy to sell weapons, sow discontent, etc'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'm not saying human nature should change, just that Putin seems to be stuck in the 1950s or something'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'well, for ordinarily ppl best way to avoid bloodsheet is... to not fight?'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Can't De Cide: 'Sadly because humans are humans there will always be fighting in the world'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'Putin was a KGB agent during the soviet era, he wants to return to that time i think'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Can't De Cide: 'a War over some "power" someone wants or something that someone else has that they want.'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'right, and I know it won't stop, but like economic war, and shifts in policies and what not seem more civilised'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'm scared that Putin will shift the idea of what mutually assured destruction was supposed to mean.. that we all do everything in snide secret ways rather than just bashing each other with big clubs all the time'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean - we *should* be snide and secret, and not just keep invading and stuff like it's the feudal era'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'Putin got away with invading Georgia 10ish years ago and got away with invading Crimea a few years ago, you can see why he thought he could get away with invading Ukraine now'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'and he is right in that no country is keen to step in and help Ukraine by sending in soldiers and starting a conflict with Russia'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yeah, for sure, and you can get away with it. But that's what's scary - mutually assured destriction is supposed to makes everyone just be a bit more 'polite' about it - he's just like yeah I'll still do what I want you bunch of twats! and it's scary that the rest of the world might start to see it that way. Maybe I'm too British'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'which is a good thing or bad thing, Guy?'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'good or bad that no country will help Ukraine?'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'yup'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'well - actively help Ukraine'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'no country can go in directly'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'good that no country wants a war, bad that no one can help'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the US could just wade in there and kick the shit our of Russia if it wanted, but it'd be a real bad thing'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Very bad. Very.'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'e'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'e'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'sry :)'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Antifa Raded: 'no dolphins on debate pls'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'any guesses what will after war? let's play a game and finish sentence: "covid" - "ukraine" - "?"'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Menpehtyre: 'CLIMATE CHANGE'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'rapture'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Antifa Raded: 'does getting nuked count as rapture?'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'After the war? Everyone will fight for the contracts to fix things up there and take their share.'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Antifa Raded: 'those few minutes that the ICBMs are on their way to population centers will be great for posting'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'I also vote for climate change'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'm going with the naked thing'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oh hang on you said nuked'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: '(I actually genuinely read that as naked;)'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticktock: 'I mean if I'm going to get nuked, I'm gonna be naked for it.'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'Everyone running around in a panic trying to get to shelter while Ticktock angrily strips'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Ticktock grins evilly at Guy of Gisbourne.
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'LOLOL! that's such a funny image'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Antifa Raded: 'I'd rather die at ground zero than of starvation 6 months later'
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill inserts her stiletto carefully into the back of Raded's neck while he watches Gisbourne furiously ripping his clothes off
T3/r7/2022-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'but you could ba a vault dweller like in the "fallout" series and save the world! (or at least Arroyo) :P '
T3/r7/2022-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'wow just seen that Russia is passing law that would put people into prison for "unnoficially reporting the law"'
T3/r7/2022-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'um - the war'
T3/r7/2022-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/sainsbury-renames-chicken-kievs-pulls-122532934.html '
T3/r7/2022-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: '"chicken kievs" cancelled'
T3/r7/2022-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'now they are chicken kyiv'
T3/r7/2022-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'heidegger sucks'
T3/r7/2022-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'haven't studied philosophy in years lol'
T3/r7/2022-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'care to elaborate?'
T3/r7/2022-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'okay. heidegger is a huge influence to pretty much every political movement that i disagree with. his ontology is really wrapped up in his language. like what is the point of arguing about dasein, of being-in-itself, if it is an opaque point that is alien to basic human understanding'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'which philosophy (or philosopher) you recommend, Saturnian?'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i prefer alan watts'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'I haven't heard about him... how is his style of writing? '
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'they're all downhill from Plato'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'or Aristotle?'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'I meant what I said :)'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'Francis Bacon, Immanuel Kant'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'i'm pretty fond of wittgenstein, bertrand russel, carnap, ayers, quine'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'russell'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'David Hume and Karl Popper'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'im just kidding, modern wise I like Rawls '
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Count Zensch nods at Classic Vost.
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'Kuhn + Fayerabend (if my spelling is correct)'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'also I think Plato was mental'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'and pre-Kant philosophers, his "work" and philosophers after him I'm too dumb to understand unfortunately (with few exceptions)'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'CIl, you mentioned Kant, wasn't Kant platonic?'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean it's an easy target, but still - for all the incredible thoughts he had that stand the test of time, he had a good few that are literally sectionable'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'mind-body problem, who was right? what do you think about transferring mind from "head" to digital form?'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'much less possible than you think - it's a fallacy that all our thinking happens only in the brain'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'what is matter? nevermind. What is mind? No matter.'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'one of my favourite nerdy facts is that we have as many neurons in our gut as a dog's brain - and dogs aren't stupid'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'agree, it's more complicated than this... still, can you completely refute the idea to digitilize yourself?'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'impossible to completly refute isn't it?'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think so - the point with digital is that it's like maths, it's based on provable computation. But the brain, being organic, depends on things waaaay more deeper, even like quantum effects etc (and yes, I'm not in way over my head:)'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'but you have quantum computing - same thing (I'm joking)'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I don't think digital will ever be able to compute the complexity of life'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I don't understand it at all, but yeah, that sounds like it might be a little different'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'what we dont understand we find complex, to say ever is more of a hope to save the idea you have of "life"'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'check out the chinese room argument. say you're in a room with boxes upon boxes of chinese characters, and a handbook. someone outside the room passes you papers with chinese characters on them. the handbook instructs you which characters to send back out of the room depending on which ones you get. unbeknownst to you, the input is questions in chinese and you are outputting the answers. you would effectively pass the turing test for knowing chinese - but you don't know chinese, and doing this won't make you learn chinese.'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'now compare that to what a computer does. even if it could pass the turing test, it isn't "conscious"'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'more or less you are establishing why there is no "ai" its really well programmed to learn based on crtieria given but unknown things will be ignored '
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I feel like the turing test is a good test though. I feel like a room full of people processing chinese words wouldn't pass my turing test'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'it's just convex optimization in n-dimensional matrices'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'if you assume evolution is true, it took billions of years to evolve from simple matter to some form of intelligence (still questionable when I see people leaving half-eaten KFC boxes on seats) - but look at the progress with all computer algorithms / A.I. / data science'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'colonel sanders, the real one'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'colonel sanders, the real one"'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I feel like we're a long way away from intelligent machines. In fact I'd say we couldn't even get close, because we have no idea what actual intelligence is'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'dammit semicolon'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'colonel sanders, the real one, patented the pressure fryer and it had a spot for the burned bits to fall so the oil stayed cleaner longer'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'just a single human cell is so complex it's well beyond our understanding'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'so i object to you kfc being involved in what can only tarnish the name of an actual entrepreneur who feeds me 1'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'our only measure of intelligence is that of humans, really. all other intelligence that we study has to be compared to our on'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'what do you mean "the real" colonel sanders?'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'well not the characiture? (spellcheck) but the founder of kfc lol'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'also kfc actually isn't that nice, just saying ;)'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'but theyre one and the same arent they?'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'i mean isn't that what the guy looked like?'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'the real colonel sanders was actually a vegan, KFC made up the whole chicken thing'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'not really. i made that up.'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'u mean taste wise? its diff ftaste in diff parts of the world. I hear the chinese one is quite nice'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i however did not make the pressure fryer thing'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'i was impressed when i read that '
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's just kind of bland around here'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'so the final implication is that KFC box is in fact Schrodinger box, right?'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'the only true application of schrodingers box '
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'is "dick in a box"'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'its both offensive ... and not'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'The real Colonel Sanders looked like Mario Lopez and was kidnapped by the mother of his lady love because the mother wanted her daughter to marry a rich guy.'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'and neeither'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'hehehe'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'mario lopez looked way better and still does!'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'we should feed a bucket of kfc a string of chinese characters and see if it's intelligent.. or even alive'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'he "slays" the Col. in looks.'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'no im reading the epxerts at wikipedia now, that's what the KFC company founder looked like. "his name and image are still symbols of the company"'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'thats amazing'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Feast your eyes, Hellion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5805oFdG5E'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'nothing in here about him being vegan...'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'already hated the decline in quality by the 1970's lol'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'KS being vegan sounds like SUCK an internet meme'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'side note saved by the bell made us think priviledged assholes are cool. Slater is def cooler'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'he said he made that part up :P'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'yuna that is amazing and i wish it was real'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'What are you talking about? It IS real. It is a real short movie that aired on Lifetime and you can watch it right now.'
T3/r7/2022-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Recipe_for_Seduction#:~:text=A%20Recipe%20for%20Seduction%20is,premiered%20on%20December%2013%2C%202020.'
T3/r7/2022-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'anyone hear the news that the UAE and Saudia Arabia have been ignoring Joe Bidens calls?'
T3/r7/2022-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'yes i saw something about 'frosty relations''
T3/r7/2022-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'but they have talked to russia'
T3/r7/2022-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'we are gonna be acfew'
T3/r7/2022-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'but uae's also supposed to step up with oil supply ...'
T3/r7/2022-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'screwed on gas prices'
T3/r7/2022-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'we're screwed on the space station though'
T3/r7/2022-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'they're bringing that down in another decade anyways i heard'
T3/r7/2022-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'no oil was down today, rest of opec wants to cash in'
T3/r7/2022-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'really?'
T3/r7/2022-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'hook me up with some links please'
T3/r7/2022-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'i like to get all sides'
T3/r7/2022-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/future/crude%20oil%20-%20electronic'
T3/r7/2022-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oil bah!'
T3/r7/2022-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'everyone knows soybeans only commodity worth trading :)'
T3/r7/2022-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'Wellllll... Russians are losing their internet. Kremlin leaked a document saying Russian companies that don't move their servers to inside the country will be blocked on March 11th.'
T3/r7/2022-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'no aardwolf for them!'
T3/r7/2022-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'I blame the "world leaders" on all sides because they are all self serving hypocritical pieces of garbage'
T3/r7/2022-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'are there many russian players here?'
T3/r7/2022-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'i just decided flatearthers are the kinds of people that'd theorize about why they feel warm when on fire rather than use established evidence.'
T3/r7/2022-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'the salamanders under our skin get antsy, duh?'
T3/r7/2022-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'are they excited by the fire?'
T3/r7/2022-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'exacerbated under full moon too'
T3/r7/2022-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'how many days yall think until Tucker Carlsen manages to rope the Clintons into this Ukraine biolabs bs he's pushing? i find any conspiracy not involving them at the root to be sorely lacking imagination'
T3/r7/2022-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill puts a Putin fask mask on, convinces you that she's QuestoR, and tells you to hill children, just like you always do
T3/r7/2022-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'ex9'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yay Putin!'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Newscaster mentions mounting evidence of Russian war crimes. Well, yes, I think that firing rockets into hospitals and apartment buildings will qualify.'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'What consequences will they face beyond the things already done?'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'is there any reason why Russians would be firing rockets into hospitals and aparment buildings? :D '
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'To cause the civilian poppulation to rise up against the war? If that's the case, it isn't working.'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'if you change you race after remort then you will start with min stats anyway'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'mis'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'interesting thought: is Putin better president from Russian point of view or Biden from American point of view? I expect most here are Americans, but please surprise me with the answers...'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Contigo: 'yes'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'Putin is worse'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'i'd agree that a politically multipolar world is more beneficial to everyone overall than a monopolar world dominated by the united states. in that sense, eurasianists like putin are correct. however, the idea of drawing "the good" from fascism and communism in order to address the postmodern political condition is misguided'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'but i've had it up to here with politics lately'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Hard to compare Putin and Biden. Their only common element is the word 'president.' Putin is a dictator. '
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'I was recently thinking that if I were a Russian politician, I'd like to be one at the local level. At least there you might get something done. The Russian parliament is laughable, a collection of stooges who rubber stamp whatever Putin tells them to. That's the way it looks from here, at least.'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'h'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'in one of the videos Putin said that ppl in Russia need dictator or Tzar (if spelling is correct) - maybe that's why they like him'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'Do you think Putin is correct? Russian's "need" a dictator?'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'anyway, during cold war videos with Reagan and Gorbachov were more funny, at least they had some sense of humour :D '
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'I don't know, I'm not Russian. I'm with the "west" just not following "our" propaganda'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Hard for me to imagine anybody "needs" a dictator, but I'm not Russian. '
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'i only care about aylorian politics'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'woops i was in gossip'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'whoopsy'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'but the real world also affect our world :P'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'look at the prices of qresets / trivia points - defo results of worldwide crisis :P '
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'i wish my laptop fan wasn't broke. i bet the csgo servers are decent right now'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'decently empty'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'he's a witch! burn him!'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'ever since f2p i pretty much quit playing. no 15 buck fine for getting vac'd pretty much ruined the game. they should have raised the price instead of making it free. all so they could put in some battle royale shit the game didn't need.. although it's better than most br games '
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'pretty sure that protestor from TV ain't ever going to appear again :-('
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'on the other hand, there will be no social media (mind) and no Mac (body) there... in the perspective of 50 years Russia can be the most healthy nation '
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'yall ready for $10-20 a gallon gas? Democrats are trying to tax gas and give the money in weekly payments to people who make under $50,000/yr lol'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'source?'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: 'yayyy free money'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: 'i ride my bike and don't get taxed muahahahhaha'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'source is every news site on the internet and every news channel on tv. Pick one lol'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: 'gunna need sauce buddy'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'i attempted to google it, didn't find anything'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'FIRST google result for "Dem Oil Tax" https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidblackmon/2022/03/12/democrats-file-new-tax-on-alleged-windfall-profits-by-big-oil/?sh=2a96b36c7a86'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'which it could only be a windfall tax if other countries weren't paying the same price for oil lol'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'what are the payments for ppl under $50k/yr? will US be the first country with guaranteed minimum income? :D '
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'that says exactly nothing about weekly payments'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'so your source is:  dude trust me'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'windfall profit tax on the production of something that we are desperately seeking more of. we have some real geniuses running the show'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'Mael: Open your eyes and read. I linked because you're either too lazy or not smart enough to use google'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'debate once again, that link says exatly nothing about weekly payments'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: 'szzilleriel - if you're going to bring up a topic, at least provide a position...instead of calling people stupid.'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'also, seems like it is a tax on big oil companies who are making massive profits. Not sure why anyone would be against this'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'Tibano I'm the one that was called a liar. You might wanna learn to read too'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'this idea is so silly it's hard to respond'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'It's not my life's purpose to research things for you Mael. Try reading another article.'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: '2/10 pathetic troll attempt'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: 'lol - no people are calling you a liar. '
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'step 1) beg iran/venezuela for more oil, step 2) propose "windfall profits tax" on people trying to produce the thing you are begging for. this is low iq theater'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'Tibano: [15 Mar 13:21:02] (Debate) Mael: 'so your source is:  dude trust me''
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'like I said learn to read.'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'never mind the fact I'd already linked it when he said he. He couldn't even pay attention long enough to troll properly.'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: 'szz - that's a far cry from calling you a liar.'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'but that's what ignore is for :) Trolls still living in mommy's basement. '
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'i found something about stimulus payments to reduce inflation, but those aren't weekly'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'stimulus payments to reduce inflation....lol wtf we have lost our minds'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: 'szz wowies he's so butt hurt. lol'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'living in upside down world'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'Anyone else wanna roast me for not agreeing with them poltically and wind up on ignore? lol'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: '"Whitehouse and Khanna then propose to send half the tax collections back to consumers in the form of a rebate, which Whitehouse told reporters would amount to a $240 payout to single tax filers and $360 for joint filers next year. Thats if, Whitehouse claims, the price for oil remains at $120 per barrel. "'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'accusations from a narcissist are actually confessions'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: 'it's not introduced or anything. just speculation. this guy is a dumb dumb'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'your position is so strong that you need to hide behind ignore rather than back it up, lmao'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: 'Here's a debate - do you think the internet has caused people to become special snowflakes where only their opinion matters? Or do you think it's from lack of global conflict? and or/conflict in the individual's life?'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'oil companies are reporting record profits (again) so i don't really see the issue'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'I agree, taxing profits is a good idea imo'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'it's a great idea so long as you dont need oil and gas'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'Tibano, there are no snowflakes! Stop hurting my feelings.'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'turns out based on the price of gas, we need it. sorry guys'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'why do think we shouldn't tax if we need oil and gas?'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'well let's personalize it'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: 'zensch well - the ice caps are melting, so i'd expect to see less snowflakes in the future...'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'company is still incentivised to make profits they just keep less'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'we're paying the same price as england is paying for gas. There is NO windfall. The gas companies are benefiting from some magical profit center lol'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'yeah... but climate change is not confirmed yet, right?'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'Because that's what people are saying'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'I'm English so don't have much sympathy that you are paying the same as us'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'here's one talking about quarterly checks, not weekly'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'let's say you go a casino and i give you $100. you could lose that $100 or not. over the past 5 years you ahve consistently lost that $100 roll at the roulette table. in fact, last year they charged you just to walk in the casino. now i tell you hey if you put that $100 down, i'm gonna any winnings because it's a windfall. are you gonna keep playing or are you gonna go do something else?'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'What I'm saying is the oil company isn't making some kind of bonus profits. They're making the same profits they were. Their price has gone up too.'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'the price of oil was negative recently. they have destroyed tons of capital over the past 5 years. this is long lead time capex (i.e., you have to place you bet on the roulette wheel, in massive quantities, way befor eyou know the price of sales you will realize at the time). so a windfall profits tax is completely asinine if you want to reduce the price of gas. like totally braindead idea'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'your price at the pump goes up because the gas station is already paying for the next batch of fuel with this batch of fuels profits. They have to make enough to make the next order.'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'is the aim to reduce the price or gas or to tax the companies making money from the high price of gas?'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'i dunno you tell me i assume it would be to reduce the price of gas unless we are talking about some sort of sociopath wanting to punish poor ppl?'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: 'imo the price of oil is a fixed market in the US....artifical - There is no reason that the price of gas in the us went from 3 to $4.50 in a week and the US produces 80% of it's oil'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'what do you mean the price of oil is a fixed market'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: 'i mean it's controlled by a few key players and artificially pushed up and down'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'you have no idea how it works do you'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'that is literally the furthest thing from being true'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'the price of gas is subject to too many factors to be affected by a domestic tax in the US, all the tax would do is give money back to the government to be spent elsewhere - potentially benifiting the american people '
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tibano shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'if you were producing oil, would you sell to the country that will pay you 100/barrel, or the one that would pay 200?  the oil may be produced here, but that doesn't mean it gets sold here.'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'the producers are for-profit companies... they will sell to where they make the most money'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'oil is literally priced on an open market. it is not a fixed market. what do you think wti is. and it's also local based on whether there is sufficient distribution assets to take the oil from the location to market (i.e., pipelines bring down prices)'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'every so often global macro events like this Russia/Ukraine stuff happens and we get a nice reminder that there are a ton of ppl who have no idea how their energy markets work'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oil prices are heavily affected by the consortium of suppliers, who really do decide how much oil to release into the market'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'this is just not true'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'sorry, I still don't understand why this means you shouldn't tax oil companies more'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'well it's a fine idea if you want them to produce less oil'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'if you tax oil companies more, where do you think they will go to make up the extra cost?'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'Gisbourne is going for the have your cake and eat it too argument'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'tax the companies more, they will charge more for thier products... so essentially you're taxing the consumer... albeit indirectly'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: 'I guess what I'm saying is the dependency on foreign markets for a product you produce and use in a domestic market is a fallacy as a generalization'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'just like broadband suppliers didn't give us the best bandwidth right from the start, so they could all slowly feed us more and make us think it's worth than extra £10 a month'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'why do they have to go anywhere to make up the extra? tax is a cost of doing business, they still make large profits, share price still goes up, can still invest in long term future of the company'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'i dunno i feel like we need to just stop this arugment while you go take an economics 101 class or something'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: 'sure, if prices across the pond go up, you should see it affect the US, but not to the degree it has in recent weeks'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'you're making the assumption that products produced domestically are going to be sold domestically, which is just false.'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'if, shipping costs aside, they can sell for more elsewhere, they will... that's where tariffs came into the game.'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'xyzzy by that logic lowering taxes means lower costs but we saw with tax cuts during Trump that lower corporate profits just resulted in companies buying back stocks and led to no real help for the average american'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: 'i understand your position, but i'm debating for more security for domestic markets in general'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'i can't really muster the energy to explain why if a businesses' expected return on a given product is reduced that they will in turn produce less of that product'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'lowering taxes COULD mean lower prices... unfortunately corporations don't always act altruistically'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'and by "don't always" I mean NEVER'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'all i can say is I know understand how Europe hosed themselves on energy to such an extent is this is the prevailing viewpoint over there'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'so lower taxes just means companes make more money, higher taxes just mean higher prices so that profits go back up?'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'if that is true then why not just tax the companies more, take a higher share of tax income from companies and lower taxes on individuals'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the price of something is based entirely on how much someone is willing to pay for it - that's why inflation is a thing - so if you lower the taxes on something so suddenly it's cheap, then the prices will be raised by the companies selling it'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'wtf'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'this is insanity'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'in the new age... the age of multi-national corporations... there is one rule.  Outperform last year's performance.  If you don't, you fire people.  If you do, you reward them.  It's all about the holy dollar.  The consumers are only in the equation because to MAKE money, you have to SELL to SOMEONE.'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'Have you EVER seen a country lower one tax just because they're raising another? lol'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'something like oil and petrol though, is a necessity, so people take advantage'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'I agree with you Xyzzy but I don't like it'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'seeking profit at the expense of everything else'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'seems like it won't end well'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: 'should towns be protected from encroaching cities if it meant better quality of life for humanity at large?'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'people are too lazy to protest with their wallets too. If something got too expensive and people stopped buying it the prices would go down. Oil companies have no fear of that because they know people won't even change what they drink to protest.'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think a good way to think of companies is to imagine them as utterly sociapathic people with a whole bunch od shareholders hiding behind them pretending it's ok because they're getting rich'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Guy of Gisbourne nods at Cilmarill.
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'oil and gas are a market, like anything else... as newer technologies come to try to supercede the necessity, the companies double-down in their efforts to try to thwart the new tech.  Eventually, the newer tech... like solar, batteries, wind, hydrogen... may win out, but it won't be without a fight. '
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'did you know russia was funding the green movement in euro'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'oil companies have been aware of this for a long time, if they were better at planning for the future then oil companies would be leading in renewables by now'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oil and gas are just not something you can do without though, to signal some kind of protest'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'Russia's ecnonomy is the same size as the State of Floridas. They weren't funding much'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'you can actually do without oil and gas... it just takes effort and currently costs more than people are willing to invest'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'Xyzzy, are you suggesting that developments of cars was hindered by people using horses?'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'actually I think Russia has the resources to be a huge positive force for global good, just they have this weird history of having arsehole leaders'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'pretty sure he didn't say that at all lmao'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'to the contrary... cars brought an insurmountable advantage over horses... a car can go hundres of miles in a few hours... a horse would take how much longer?'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'They did this gas tax thing under Jimmy Carter in the 70s. There were gas lines stetching out of every gas station parking lot. You had to hear on the news who had gas to buy.'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'the new tech won... and oil was cheap then.'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'ahh OK :) '
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'he's a witch, burn him!'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm someone needs to invent fusion power'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: 'fusion is not real.'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'I have no doubt that given the research dollars, and the advances in technology, that something will surpass oil and gas.  The oil companies, however, will do everything possible to slow that down.'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: 'it's not even close to what is being advertised.'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill looks up at the sun - umm?
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: 'from us :)'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: 'not real yet *'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'it's along the lines of the 50mpg carburetor in 70s'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ4W1g-6JiY'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I do sometimes wonder what might happen if the US used it's defense budget to research fusion power instead'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'I love how everyone thinks their electric vehicle is saving the environment when the coal that was burned to charge their car is worse for the environment than burning gas in a car lol'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'my electric vehicle gets charged by the wind it captures while driving'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but at the same time as a British person I am very happy to have America's guns to hide behind (NATO, Ukraine, etc) and yes I am a pacifist'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'with the way humans work, if we spent the money on research of fusion power, we'd have turned the earth into a second sun by now, and we wouldn't even be discussing it...'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: 'oh yeah - but mmmm we buy 20k toilet seats. we should probably fix the source of our gross errors in federal funding rather than pushing bills to introduce more funding to other areas...'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'There are four fusion reactors on the planet right now with a 5th being built (finished in 2026). They just can't get them to run for very long yet.'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'the high priced military parts are a function of bureaucracy more than anything...'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'not really those $600 ashtrays on submarines serve a purpose'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'they break into 3 blunt pieces instead of shattering incase they start flying around the sub'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'yeah, the fusion stuff is promising... I just worry that we'll have the fusion version of three-mile island or chernobyl at some point.'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'just saying (actually, googling) but us defense budget 768 billion, amount spent of fusion half a billion'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'not if we sacrifice the witches'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'dig through the ditches and burn through the witches'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'you ever seen a witch refilling their broom? i rest my case'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'The Brits and the Chinese are the ones really dumping money in to Fusion reactors at the moment. The brits are ahead of everyone in research. They've generated the most energy so far.'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'the military bureaucracy works to ensure that EVERY part on military equipment is stamped.. by an approved vendor... and that the vendors allowed to bid are allowed to bid... and that they meet certain military-only guidelines.  They can't use a $20 home-depot toilet seat, because ... reasons!'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'The british reactor is only partially funded by the government too'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'https://dualworldfusion.com/'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'well, I was both encouraged and disappointed by the fact that the LHC didn't result in a man-made black-hole that swallowed our little corner of the universe.'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: 'Please watch Sabine Hossenfelder an actual theoretical physicist - I agree with her assessment that we are not close to achieving Qtotal https://youtu.be/LJ4W1g-6JiY?t=282'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'should i be trusting the opinion of a physicist that sells merchandise on youtube?'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'm pretty sure we're waaaay far away from practical fusion power, just like we're waaaay far away from having any computers that are actually intelligent, but it does seem like an awful lot of the worl'd problems seem to stem from not being able to buy/generate energy without fucking the planet/killing people?'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'well, do you trust the 4 out of 5 dentists, or the other one?'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'i distrust all dentists'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and putting my foil hat on, I can't help but feel that sooo much of the established money in the world are shitting themselves thinking about alternative power sources that might actually be sustainable'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: 'while i definitely agree providing energy cheaply to any community increases their general well being - the advent of international markets has created a power inbalance that is manipulating the entire world toward the self interests of a few groups that do not reflect humanity at large.  '
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'i will let you be the one to tell ppl in poor communities they dont get cheap power'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'i say we stick all the nuclear reactor waste in poor countries'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill pokes Mushambo gentle HARD
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'we already do that?'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'do we? i thought US buries it in nevada'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'yeah, we do.. in Nevada and other desert-y areas... under a gazillion dollars worth of concrete, because there's a market.  Cheap land and a profit for big-concrete!'
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tibano: 'What is best in life? '
T3/r7/2022-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'when that well dries up, though, you'll be able to buy depleted uranium on the street corners in war-torn African countries.'
T3/r7/2022-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'It's diffiult to reconcile the nation of great literature, dance, music with the bludgeoning cement bicyclists of the Russian military and their dictator.'
T3/r7/2022-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'there is crime, and there will be punishment'
T3/r7/2022-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'I want to ignore the fact that Westerners that have no concept of what the war is about are willing to go to Ukraine to be cannon fodder for Nazis, but the fact that they are getting Ukrainians killed by doing stuff like posting geotagged pictures of themselves to social media is downright disgusting'
T3/r7/2022-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'Nobody deserves to die in this war, but westerners going to get Cool Guy Points without really understanding the Eurasianism/NATO thing and getting people killed in the process are horrible and if I meet anyone IRL who claims to have gone there I will solidly punch them in the effing face'
T3/r7/2022-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'I do not like fascists and I don't care if they're "our fascists". This has gone beyone ridiculous, the US government no longer represents the citizens'
T3/r7/2022-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'We are no more or less totalitarian than the Russians and perhaps have worse intentions, globalism is racism.'
T3/r7/2022-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snake God Szzilleriel: 'Do dyslexic priests ever pray to their dog?'
T3/r7/2022-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'am I awake or just a little tipsy?'
T3/r7/2022-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElIMMental Sammael: 'I for sure am'
T3/r7/2022-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well since I can't even whois you I'm just going to go with tipsy'
T3/r7/2022-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Derevo peers around herself intently.
T3/r7/2022-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'why do phone companies still hate the idea of a CLI sms option from computer? there's' already ways to text from computer through phone and some are from the companies. can't be hard to just support a terminal app for it so i can happily text away without letting go of my precious keyboardd'
T3/r7/2022-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'if yall think inflation is bad now, just saw that wheat's up 50% this month :-/'
T3/r7/2022-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Derevo: 'somehow we dont have wheat 50% up here'
T3/r7/2022-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'oh you're right woops, 33% this month'
T3/r7/2022-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'it's fallen a bit because i guess there's hope of peace'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill watches new - yay Putin! Saving Maruipol day by day
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'news!'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'are you being sarcastic?'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oh I'm being so ironic I'll never wash it off. Russian state media is pushing forward the idea that the Russian army is "saving Mariupol while the Ukranian Natzis are trying to destroy it"'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'its pretty disturbing that Ukraine has never been able to shake off its ties to the Nazis'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'but as the moral to one of aesops fables clearly states...any excuse will do for a tyrant'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lysiria: 'I can't debate you because I think that's all well said. LOL'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'we're not seeing any evidence of Nazi activity on British news'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's all very simply that the Russians are shelling civilian buildings without any restraint'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'they are literally commiting war crimes every single day'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'if anything the failed invasion is just giving the bad apples battle experience and a common enemy to unite against'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well the scary thing is Putin hunkering further and further into his littler and littler shell and then eventually imploding - he's not the kind of person to gracefully back out of a bad idea'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'so are the times we live in '
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'when someone like him is wrong they just double or triple down and go for broke'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'should the US and other countries really get involved though? '
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oh gosh no'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'I mean while we are at it why don't they sanction China too and demand liberation of the Uyghur population'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'although honestly at the same time I wonder, if the West just rolled up and said umm no! maybe Putin would have to run away with his tail between his legs for good'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'I'm a firm believer in doing the right thing no matter the cost but the US has very dirty hands so...'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'like there as underlying thing of Putin only doing this because he knows he can get away with it'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yes, and I don't really understand all the middle east stuff, like, at all'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but I think this thing comes down to ooh, they've got a lot o nuclear weapons'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'the United States has gotten really good at overthrowing governments and installing leaders that help further their interests'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'then at some point the leadership they install ends up turning on them '
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yeah I do get the hypocrisy of it all. Like ooh - since it's a European country all of a sudden we report it'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'I'm sure you've seen the "racist reporting" '
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'i only put it in quotations because those search terms should pull up what I'm talking about'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'even Trever Noah pointed it out so i assume 99% of people are aware of what I'm talking about'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but I do think it's very clear that Russia has a much more draconian way of supressing free information'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'well yeah lol'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well if Trever Noah tried to express himself like that in Russia he'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'putin was asked about the fact that his political opponents are either arrested or assassinated etc'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'he said Russia does things differently and has a more efficient system'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'seems to me that in America everything is free real estate including public opinion and morality'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'so, in the end, for all the harm and horrible things the US may have done, and just all countries in general, I suppose I just think people should be allowed to have freedom. Especially oh speech'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'i mean have you seen how college campuses react to unpopular opinions '
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'right, freedom and democracy. Not that it's perfect, far from it, but if that's what people believe in, even if they're idiots sometimes and do it wrong, in the end that will be the best way'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but as long as people are afforded the freedom, eventually it'll sort itself out'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: '"democracy" is a buzzword though'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'in practice pure democracy is either unfeasible, a foolish concept or both'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'maybe if the populace were better educated...'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think democracy is just the idea that you're allowed to have your say. Doesn't mean it makes a difference (although it does, in some small way), but just that you're supposed to be able to have your say'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'imagine what it's like to live in a country where you're consciously aware that you should voice your opinion'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'erm shouldn't voice'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'well you could voice your opinion in the US '
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'like growing up just thinking that you're not allowed to say what you think'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'if you want to keep your job its best not too '
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'the whole deal now is sure you have freedom of speech but you also have the consequence that Comes with it'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'on one hand we could be talking putins russia...straight to Gulag'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'exactly, just like here. And if you voice an opinion that stupid, or harmful then ok. I have faith in humanity that eventually we'll work it out, kind of like a crowd intelligence or something'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'or bidens america where you lose your job and get doxxed'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'or Putin's America where you lose your job and get doxxed (don't know what doxxed mean btw;) but you're not allowed to complain about it'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'doxxed is where someones identity gets posted onlinr'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'name, address, employer etc'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'whaa? when you lose your job you get publicly shamed?'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'usually used as a tool of targeted harassment campaigns'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkuth: 'democracy is the worst form of govenment untill you look at the alternatives.'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'its pretty politically divided in the states and people are willing to go to insane lengths to shutdown unpopular opinions'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think I'd still rather get doxxed, although that sounds awful, that being afraid for me and my family of what I say'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'i don't really share my opinion online. even though I'm willing to live and let live, others aren't'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'dunno, it seems to me that freedom of speech is the ultimate, and the ambition of democracy is just an expression of that'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'I'm libertarian right so my opinions really wouldn't go down well in the public space'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I feel like I don't mind people thinking I'm an idiot or just disagreeing with me, what I object to is people telling me what I should think'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well me too actually, although maybe naively though because I think it means you have faith in human nature'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'as a cisgender straight "white" male I'm the worst of the worst'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'not liking trump also makes me a traitor XD'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but seems like humans, expecially humans that are actually in positions of power, are quit often arseholes'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'teue'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'but power is pretty consolidated right now isn't it? '
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'so once someone is in that position they can't really fail unless they are total degenerates like Harvey Weinstein'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I mean I suppose so, although honestly I don't now too much about it. However, I think the general trend is that power has become less and less consolidated over the centuries'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'if this was 300 years ago, then Putin wouldn't bat an eye about the world thinking he's a prick, because no one would even know'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'most of us are just consumers ruled by our corporate masters'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'plenty of proof of insider trading amongst politicians for example. nothing will ultimately come of it '
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I actually honestly hope think hole invade Europe thing might finally be the moment where the world realises they can't just do shit without people finding out, so actually there's more accountability than there's every been'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I suppose takes time? like even another century or something I don't know'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'in regards to accountability '
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'depends'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but I'm sure that there were less people openly complaining in like 1800 or something'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'so there we go, democracy - it really just boils down to the people's ability to disagree'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'if the media is on your side its hard to really be held accountable'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yeah right, like the Russian media or (whispers) Fox News - but, if people can voice their opinions, then eventually you can't hold back the tide'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'like mark zuckerberg....they make him testisfy before congress. they make impassioned speeches...threaten to break up his company with anti trust laws etc. as long as he does what the powers that be want he'll be fine.'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but you know, 2, 3 hundred years ago not only was there no way to voice your opinion properly, you didn't even think that it was a thing'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'You can't pretend that CIA black sites don't exist'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'ntm if you really know too much you might just murdered in a "botched" robbery lol'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'or just outright assassinated'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I mean I can guess at what black sites mean, but still that's actually a response to the fact that the world is a much more open place than it ever was'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'black sites are off grid secret prisons'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I just mean that the slow direction of humanity seems to be, and hopefully will continue to be, more and more open information. And, thankfully, that seems to lead to more and more democracy'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'i think what you're talking about is more of an illusion though'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'like, yeah, I get disgusted by the few and what they do to drain the resources from the many, but at least I know about it'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'especially as IQs continue to drop and humans begin acting more on emotion than logic'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'or no - it's not that - at least I feel like I'm able to complain about it'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'as nietzsche said god is dead '
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oh wow you've no idea how much I want to get into that one ;)'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'politics is the new religion'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'you realise I'm a stupid halfling ninja right?'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'the fact that you have half the world (seemingly) saying glory to ukraine is in itself disturbing...'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I don't really get that - it seems clear that Ukraine is being invaded'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'Its a complicated situation'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'I certainly don't think the leadership anywheres is doing their people any favors'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm no, it's Putin flexing himself basically, thinking he can just take another piece of Ukraine, scared ok Ukraine being in the EU, and NATO, and expecting to be able to do it quickly like before, and then look like a strong leader, and do another calendar with him halk naked riding horses'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'Nato is a legitimate concern'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's an utterly blatant invasion'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well the Ukraine president has already conceded any future membership of NATO'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'could have done that to begin with'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'you know the sad thing is Russia could be a huge force for the whole world, all it's resourceds, it's people, but Putin is acting like the evil one. Imagine a world with Russia being commited to the good of the world'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'imagine if ukraine didn't get in bed with the Bidens'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'shrugged off nato for the time being'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm well that's a bit above my head'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'and got rid of their nazis'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but why wouldn't they? The Ukranian people want freedom and democracy and want to be a part of the EU'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and I don't know where you get the nazi thing from'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'if you actually think Russia are trying to get rid of Nazis I'm very convinced you're mistaken'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'didn't say that'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'the best fighters ukraine has are neo nazis '
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'and ukraine has a long history with the nazi party going even into modern times'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'a lot of European countries do'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but it's really a minority thing'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'do you know the history of ukraine? '
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well no'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'especially from WW2 on?'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'nope'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'well see there is where the misunderstanding is'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'no but are you suggessting that Russia is attempting to remove the navis from Ukraine?'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'the worst to come out of this is going to be neo nazis factions with battle experience'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and then by implication that Ukraine was actually being controlled my nazis in the first place?'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'pretty much the nazi equivalent to ISIS'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'so what Russia is doing is actually for the good of the greater world?'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'at times yes Ukraine has been controlled by Nazi supporters'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'none of this is going to help anyone. its short sighted on everyones part'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I don't think you shell civilian buildings for the good of the greater world'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'seems fairly obvious to me'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'Ukraine isn't going to come out stronger when their main fighting force is neo nazis.'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'they won't risk losing to russia so they won't be able to shrug it off now.'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'you don't get rid of nazi by circling a country with 120 thousand troups and 50 miles of tnaks and bombing the crap out of whole cities'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'you are missing the point entirely'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I really don't think I am'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'neither side is good '
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'you don't go to war with a country to rid them of a minority political movement'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'its really sad for the civilians on both sides'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'there are no both sides'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'its not a minority political movement...'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'you're implying that the Ukraian side are nazis'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it definitely is'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean look, if the majority of the Ukranian establishment was Nazi then fine, something aught to be done'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'the two aren't mutually exclusive '
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I don't know all the details, but I'm willing to bet that if the EU was ready to accept them, then it was a nazi country'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'Sure putin is going in under false pretenses. He could care less about ukrainian problems or the world. its all self interest'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the very idea is just ridiculous'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'but ukraine has a serious nazi problem '
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'you don't declare war on a country because there's some neo nazis there'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Real Slim Shader: 'Taibo, can you elaborate on the "nazi problem" which Ukraine has? Especially after Maidan?'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'are you American? because you have plenty of them too'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'you said you are not familiar with Ukrainian history'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'you should look into both sides before you debate with emotion instead of logic'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm well let's not start a fact war'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but yes I've done a little more googling'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and it seems clear that the Ukranian people wanted to join the EU'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and anyway, to get back to my point - if you suspect a country has a problem with Nazis, why send in an army and shell civilian buildings?'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'that's not how you do it'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'unless of course the country is so infested that it's openly agressive'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and that was very very far from the case'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'while we're at it then, how come it's against the law in Russia to call it a war?'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oh, and how come people get jailed for speaking out against it?'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'does that sound righteous to you?'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oh umm, people in the media are resigning in droves'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'didn't say it was righteous at all '
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'perhaps that's because they so tired of telling the truth?'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'nor do i consider myself American'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'if i lived in germany i wouldn't consider myself german'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'm not saying there's not two sides'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'and if i lived in china i wouldn't consider myself chinese either'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but I do think one side of it is talking utter bullshit about what's clearly happening'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and I don't need to know that much about Ukranian history to see that'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'its simultaneously true '
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's very simple. Why run an army into Ukraine and shell the crap out of it?'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'once again not mutually exclusive'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'putin can be a scumbag...and ukraine can and does have a nazi problem'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'ok fine well so does America, yay, let's invade America'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'facts are facts'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oh hang on, Germany has a lot of neo Nazis, let's wheel up a 50 mile line of tanks and blow the shit out of them'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'civilians suffer the most in war. especially the ones who don't want it'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'm sorry to be flippant with you, because obviously you're very considered'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'and if thats how you feel then we shouldn't be holding up russian refugees at the border but we are.'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but seriously, it's utterly ridiculous the try and suggest to a population that told your army to solve a neo nazi problem'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's pathetic'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'they really should have solved that issue'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'because the problem will be exasperated now'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and the Russian people, who should be duely proud of their country as huge force for global good, would be able to show their anger at being made to look so stupid to the rest of the world if only it wasn't illegal to say what you want'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'clearly you haven't studied all sides of the issue or read what i wrote with any comprehension because you just want to prove your point. '
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'admist all that you've just managed to disagree ekth'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'with someone whos been agreeing with you this whole time lol'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'I'm not going to look at ukraines leadership with rose colored glasses'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'no not at all, it's been really nice to talk about it with you, really :) I learned a lot of things, and googled many thing :))'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'ultimately the Ukrainian people are suffering because of the actions of russia and the ineptitude of their leadership'
T3/r7/2022-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I act silly in this game but I get little shoots of seriousness and petulence :)'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'the only reason why we would tank the petrodollar like this is if we were moving away from having the USD as a global reserve currency. keynes recommened this with the 'bancor' after wwii'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'it's the same reason why we got off the gold standard'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'but i'm not wrong...'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'and it'll take wwiii to do it because they love keynesianism and it didn't take after wwii. so we need another world war apparently.'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'The point is, there's no taking the moral high ground on this after Afghanistan and Iraq.'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'It isn't about humanitarianism, freedom, democracy, whatever just as much as it wasn't when we bombed the middle east for the past 20 years so it isn't about the rights of the ukranians, it's about resetting the petrodollar to a CBDC due to the triffin dilemma - having a national currency that is used as a global reserve currency leads to huge problems when short-term domestic policy runs head against global long-term policy. i.e. running a defecit in the short term doesn't work when you need to run a surplus in the long terms'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'it's a banker's war and we're all being lied to'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'but we were in afghanistan for over two decades and let's not forget that when we're calling putin nasty names'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'https://youtu.be/yAs_ftqJAOo'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'pfft, too far.'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'If I was fleeing my country after it got invaded I would take all the cash I could carry with me'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'lol'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: ''cash'? define that, please - if its 'national currency of the invaded nation', then you may as well spend it on toilet paper on your way out.'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'probably USD from Biden'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'cash - whatever the best available currency is, usually usd or eur'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'would you not?'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'mmm.  there are worse options - for now.'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'love how all of a sudden Ukraine is saintly'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'feel bad cor gbe'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'i feel bad for the innocent civilians'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'no one is saying Ukraine is saintly, same as every other country'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'but its a corrupt country with a muppet for a president'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'still don't deserve to be invaded'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'WeaponGuy's new sockpuppet, is that you?'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'thats up for debate'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Guy of Gisbourne laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Your account is less than 1 day old, Taibo. Are you, in fact, a Russian bot?'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'm fairly sure Russia isn't trying to weed out the corruption'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'I still maintain that you're probably a Russian bot. This is a weird place to try and spread your propaganda.'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'i mean they did pretty much beg to be invaded with the actions of their president'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'Russia's plan for world domination step 1 - take over arrdwolf'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Aaah yes, the corrupt actions of Zelensky like... trying to join the EU and NATO.'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'The us was all like you can do it ukraine! we will support you. heres some cash'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'of course they are, c.  the existence of anything that isnt russia corrupts the russia - keep russia pure!'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'and then ukraine is like nato please help'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'crickets XD'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'personally i think their corruption caught up with them'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Personally, I think we should all agree to ignore this clear Russian bot.'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'I don't like russia either'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'we all hate out employers'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'bunch of sheep '
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'what is youre self employed'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'if'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'NO. EXCEPTIONS.'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'I can only assume this is both WeaponGuy's new sockpuppet AND a Russian bot.'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'might just be a victim of russian propaganda'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'a Tucker Carlson fan who got swept up in it all'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'But don't you know, they hate Russia! They can't have fallen for Russia's propaganda!'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'There is literally no difference between Russian propaganda and what Tucker Carlson spews.'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Guy of Gisbourne is agreeing with that Summoner Yuna person again...
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'I don't have stock in swanson '
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'there you are repeating what you read or heard again like a child that eavesdrops with no real clue what the reality is'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'you going to enlighten us comrade?'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'i haven't seen any originality here'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'the NPCs on this game are next level'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'I mean you really gonna defend some former ukrainian MPs wife who got caught with her hand in the cookie jar. Its laughable if it wasn't so tragic'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'I didn't comment on if she was right or wrong but i did say I understood it and would probably gather all the cash I could if I was fleeing a war'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'but remember the news said they are "just like you" so they can do no wrong'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'are you just angry because you wanted her to leave the cash for your Russian friends to find?'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'she had millions'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Guy of Gisbourne nods.
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'their gov pays really well under the table i sed'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'you're upset because some Ukrainians aren't poor?'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'zelensky might be an idiot'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'but he didn't flee'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'i can respect that'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'I hope they take a good look into her finances. she should be publicly shamed as well.'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'yeah, this is the worst thing to happen to Ukraine in ages, I can see why its got you so upset /s'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'i feel bad for the people'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'they have been fleeced by their own leadership'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'and now attacked by russia'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'its crap'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'home'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'mis'
T3/r7/2022-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taibo: 'did you just call russia home comrade?'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yay I love the Taliban! what's better than girls not being allowed an education? this world is built on uneducated females, what idiot would want to stop that?'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the problem with that is, how are you going to oppress anyone based on the color of their skin if they are wearing full-body curtains everywhere?'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'beef curtains'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Pharaoh Mot.
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'when left alone white people usually single people out based on where they were born'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'people always find a reason to discriminate ieven if its just the way you alk'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'there is no safe space world even if all races are mixed and everyone wears the same clothes.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'indeed.  and as a last resort? theyll hate someone because they are _too_ similar.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'so why waste time thinking about it. a better goal is to think about how to get them to kill themselves'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'ah, but _why_? i have a hypothesis:'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'they already do it with abusive relationships with food'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yeltazig: 'have you seen sneaches on beaches by dr suess?'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'but if you get rid of the lowest 75% of iqs you get rid of alot of those problems'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'eating oneself to death is too slow.  gotta be another way.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'exactly. now were on track'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'but if theres no stupid racist people who will work in the factories'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'i used to work at a tire factory and i can tell you that i appreciate every racist piece of shit in there'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'nah, we need the low iq types.  smart folks _hate_ menial work.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'cause i never want to do that job again'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'youre a pretty fart smeller'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'right?'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'even funner fact. we hired black people and they always said fuck this and quit:p'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'only mexicans and rednecks would do it cause the labor was so intense'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'so anyway, heres the issue - racism and most of the other -isms are all expressions of a pro-survival trait, to wit: xenophobia.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'You think so?'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'I dont think its that complex'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'I think most people walk to fight to displace their anger and frustration is all'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'eh, the expressions can be complex, because social - but the root cause is pretty straightforward.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'life is hard and a basic mind finds life easier when they can compartmentalize their issues and point at someone different and blame them'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'I think the human condition is just that. And it's easier to blame someone then to explore your horizons.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'it takes a great deal of courage and circumstance to go out into the world in search of adventure'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'where does your meal come from? who will love you? where will you live?'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'much easier to stay home and blame the president'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'on a text based game'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'that, also.  but distrust of the different, and the new? that helps perpetuate your own genes.  anything new might be dangerous, and so is best avoided.  and anything different is not just new, but also trying to take your food/territory/other resources.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'well black slaves were the reason we had food territory other resources'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'so your logic fails'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'its simply a way for mankind to displace anger is all'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'theres no darwinian theory'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'this has been true, if not since life first appeared, then at _least_ as long as it showed up for the second time :p'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm I think it's right that we have an in-built distrust of things that are different'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'i think when left in a small group people distrust each other more than new comers'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'people distrust those they know more than strangers'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'thats the difference between a competitor for resources, and the resource itself.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but I think bigotry and racism are more about thinking you're better than someone or something'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'the issue with an evolution debate always stem back to the missing link'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i disagree.  in my experience, contempt is much more prevalent towards known individuals, while distrust is aimed at the unknowns.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'we have skeletal structures from up to 300k years ago'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'at least with people you know and hate, you can _trust_ that they will behave badly.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'but there is no skeleton to date that bridges homosapiens'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'so if youre arguing that our less than 3% neandrothal dna'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'dictates all our basic emotions'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'ima call bullshit'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think evolutionary justification is kind of pointless, when you get to this level'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'eh, i learned too much about how archeologists work to ever really care about what they have to say.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'i believe the great flood'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'reset society. we were already here'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'theres no other way to explain megolithic structures'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's like saying men should be the workers not the women because they were always the one who killed the animals, while the women stayed at home'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'or sumer'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'most women you meet today have more dominant traits than most men'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'again it collapses'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'every human walking right now has a second to last spliced chromosome'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'forget evolution, it's nothing when we think about the way culture and thinking is today'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'this only occurs during cloning'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'meh.  theres an old guy in england who makes it his hobby to move and stack super-sized stone blocks.  its not that difficult to figure out a way to do that kind of thing, its just labor-intensive.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'we learned that with the goats in the 90s'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'ok'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'i build and work on mega structures such as nuclear power plants'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'if you can form one square foot of that plant with rope and a copper chisel'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'ill suck your dick'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'waiting for picture evidence'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'nah c, when you look at societies through a darwinian lens, its all pretty straightforward.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'let alone andosite'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'thats cause he was a moron'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'so he had a moronic view which is easy to adapt'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'almost all of his theory has been disproven'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'they teach froidian theory as well'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'also massively disproven'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'culture is evolving at a rate waaaaay fast than we ever did, survival of the fittest is irrelevant not for humans'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'you men are stronger, sure, but it doesn't matter anymore'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'there are such things as materials advancements - if you want a nuke-henge, thats totally doable with bronze-age tech.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'isaac newton said that mental illness was caused by evil spirits'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'he was much smarter than darwin'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'not all of the crazy people i have met are demon-infested.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'i am a demon'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'pretty much all significant scientists had crazy idea as well as revolutionary ones'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'eh, dude got the ball rolling.  noone expects him to get every little thing spot on on a first pass.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'doesn't mean we believe them all'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the current understanding of evolution is provable via experiment.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well evolution is irrefutable, but that doesn't mean that we still act according to how we evolved 100 thousand years ago'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'you might be surprised how little has changed in that time :p'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'being afraid of people who seem different to is is totally normal, but it's not because of us running around with spears'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's a socialogical thing, not an evolutionary thing'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'you have it backwards.  the fear causes the (metaphorical or literal) spears, not the other way around.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'heh, societies evolve in ways similar to organisms.  and the motivations? havent really changed much.  just the details of how they are expressed.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but we're a lot more sophisticated now, and we know about things'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'a thousand years ago, yes, if you saw people who looked different to you, then you might be justifiable afraid, and want to protect your people'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and that would be a survival of the fittest thing'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and those motivations _havent changed_, because biological evolution tends to happen more slowly than sociological change.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but we're way beyond that now - so being afraid of people who are different is cultural now, and totally justifiable'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'thus, we see lots of not-terribly-beneficial behavior.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'no, it's just coincidence - what we're trying to protect these days isn't the lives of our tribe, it's our idenity'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) OMG It's Aleks: 'How about .... what if the woodchuck couldn't chuck wood because the woodchuck just chucked wood?'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'we grow up and think something of ourself, and then if something comes along that challenges that, it's fearful'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'like i said - a slightly different expression.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and its a fallacy to think that previous generations didnt have self-identity and all the same feelings we do now - they have been people for quite a while now.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but it's nothing to do with evolution, or survival of the fittest, it's just the idea that what we though we were might be wrong'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'its easy to believe that, but only during a short time-window.  if you look at the longer view, its just an on-going process.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I mean I totally agree with that Mannec'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'also, i learned on the internet that what you think about yourself is way more true than anything else, even biology and physics.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm maybe it was never to do with survivial of the fittest, even when you were running around with a spear and I was in the cave making a fire'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think it is about identity'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'maybe it's just that the sense of thinking that you're right was always a good evolutionary trait'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'eh, self-identity only lasts one lifetime.  but its not just about yourself, is it? your offspring, however many you have, will form their own identities based in part on their environments - which include the previous generation.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'self-confidence is a pro-survival trait, yes.  in many cases, even a wrong action is superior to in-action.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well no, it changes but it's one of the main things that's past on'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and those personal identity traits which lead to more grand-children tend to be preserved.  and we are back to evolution :p'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'ok, but we're no longer saying that evolution necessarily leads to xenophobia, we're saying that a strong self belief is important for survival of the fittest'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'you seem to be under the mis-apprehension that those are mutually exclusive traits.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'also, there are _many_ pro-survival traits.  xenophobia is hardly the only one :p'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I know what you mean, but there is an important distinction'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'I honestly don't think that a species that calls a few thousand years ancient history can apprehend the utter randomness of evolution over hundreds of millions of years.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'hah! we can totally simulate that sort of thing.  also, we can show the principles in the lab, by using organisms with a faster generation time than we have.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm no I don't think so'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: '?'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the evolution of culture is much more complicated and much more important in understanding the way we think these days'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'eh, 'complicated' i think means something different to you than it does to me.  i would call it 'chaotic', in the mathematical sense - simple at its core, but tends towards complexity in action.  also, 'important' is one of those hard to pin down value statements :/'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: ''faster' i will grant, so it is certainly easier to see it in the process of changing - which would naturally draw attention to it, and away from the slower biological issues.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean we have big brains and opposable thumbs thanks to evolution, but evolution didn't give us the ability to realise that we should all have equal rights and maybe try to not be scared of people who look different from us'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yes - complex, not complicated'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'meh, ive met too many people to believe that those big brains are being utilized on any kind of large scale.  most people just use their thumbs to scratch inside some orifice or other, and equal rights? not a pro-survival trait at the species level, so its hard to make an objective argument about it.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'also, different-looking people are still scary for good reason.  foreigners want to destroy my way of life, after all.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'right, so what I'm saying is, we've gone waaaaay beyong pro-sruvival traits'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'have we? i dont think so.  there will always be some number of traits that are not yet proven out, in the short term.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the more contact we have with people-who-look-different (foreigners) the more we realise it's a stupid thing to thing - in these days.. '
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'remember that 'survival' is not just biologically determined.  social success is also a significant issue :p'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well exactly, and surviving socially is way beyong any kind of evolution in the kind that spears and fires was'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'assume for the sake of argument that's true - its still a very new phenomenon, and so hasnt had a chance to prove out.  also, its probably a fragile situation - bow many acres of slightly poor rainfall would it take to make food-wars a thing again?'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but that's not evolution in the physical sense'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'nah, its just a different expression.  same motivation, same biology, interacting with different environmental factors '
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and?'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well so there's no relationship between than at being afraid of people who look different'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'still waitingu'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'there's no in-built evolutionary urge to fight off the foreigners'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'again, not true c.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Maybe, Cil. We should just stay away from little North Sentinel Island.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: '_all_ living organisms, for as long as there have been two of them, have had to deal with competition - that kind of influence has lasting consequencees.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'i got your two organisms right here'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm look I do think there is some deep seated desire to shoo away people who different, I've experienced it myself an awful lot, I just think that attributing it to evolution simply doesn't play out'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'xenophobia improves survival chances in a wide variety of circumstances. and has thus been selected for for a very long time - thats a very strong influence that, if it can be altered, will take quite a bit of doing.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and actually if anything, it's giving some excuse for people who act like that, as if it's in our genes. It's not in our genes, at all. It's in our culture'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'you can argue about the particulars endlessly - but that doesnt change the fact that this part at least, exists - we can see it in action.'
T3/r7/2022-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'there is definitely no xenophobia gene'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'im not a big fan of excuses - the folks making them just arent very well-suited to their environments, and so should be selected againsst.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'you hope.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'definitely there isn't one'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'genes don't even work anything like that'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the moment you put a word, any word, on a gene, it's not right'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'congratulations on completely decoding the entire genome of every living organism on earth and in its history. also, the environments of those organisms.  on the other hand, it is a fallacy to assume that genes are the only source of behavior :p'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well exactly'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'eh, they are complicated little buggers.  self-interacting and prone to non-linear expressions ... nonetheless, theres alot in there.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'right, so complexity again, right?'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'complexity of expression, deriving from essentially simple principles.  'chaotic', aye.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the idea that a single gene would affect one thing, and only one thing, is completely absurd'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean if you're talking about blue eyes... wellllll ok, the idea that you're talking about how much a person would be fearful of people who seems different to them? it's just bonkers'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'we're talking about culture, not pysical evolution'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'nah.  theres lots of those.  probably.  we can see some of them in action.  granted, there might be some interaction we arent aware of - but since noone can ever completely know what they dont know, thats as good as it gets.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i dont see any reason to draw that arbitrary distinction, c.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'hmm, i saw a case study on folks who dont feel fear.  i dont recall if that was thought to be a genetic issue, or not.  gonna have to see if i can find that thing again.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm, dunno - it seems to me genes determine, very, very largely our physical being'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the brain just come into being and then basically sucks up the world'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'biological organisms interact with their environments - which naturally, include other similar organisms.  social and biological evolution are inseparable, in nature.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'so the way we think has very little to do with our genes'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'heh, neurology is such a young science, its not fair to say that.  the degree and manner of which brain structure inluences thought/behavior is not at all well established.  so far, the answer seems to be 'some, maybe alot'.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yep well I mean of course I can't disagree'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'our genes and our social environments both affect each organism, which in turn affects society and offspring - figuring out which bit is due to which influence is, at best, a difficult proposition.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but like, I meet someone, they look different to anyone I've met before, so I'm a little wary. That's natural, it's fine. But is that really because 100 thousand years ago I evolved to be wary of different looking things? it's just seems very doubtful. The brain is just insanely complex, and 20 years of experience and thinking and meeting people has shaped it. Not one or a couple of genes that somehow say "ooh watch out he's going to steal your cave"'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and I'm not being flippant at all, I'm awake at 4:11am becaue I love talking like this :)'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean I might just murder than muffin man in my cp list shortly, but... :)'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'based on previous experience, i would suggest that both of those influences are present - and trying to pick apart the exact mechanisms behind any give behavior? quite a project.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm maybe it's better to think that whatever leftover xenophobia or fear of others, we're capable of getting over'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'techincally true, but i wouldnt hold my breath - that is alot of generations of evolutionary trait-reinforcement.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I still fell like it's cultural, but actually I'd say that culture is far more powerful than genes when it comes to thinking, so yeah'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'mmm.  hard to test that sort of thing experimentally.  at least, in ways that get past the ethics review board :/'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well do you think the belief in gravity is genetic?'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'obviously I'm being silly - but you get what I mean'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'in part.  sub-marine creatures dont really need to worry about it much.  also, gravity is just one environmental factor, which turns out many organisms struggle to deal with when it changes.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'pretty much everything that shapes us these days is because of knowledge and culture. When I was lighting fires and you were throwing spears and we were both evolving according to survival of the fittest we also though the little lights in the sky were the souls of our ancestors'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'thats just a change in environmental factors - in modern first-world nations, food water and shelter are pretty easy to come by, so other factors would of course rise to prominence.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but survival of the fittest has really not mattered at all in modern times'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'if the recent trend towards food-scarcity and other resource limitations continue, we might get to see the old-school behavioral expressions come back.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'of course it has - you just arent accounting for the difference in environment.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well ok, that was a stupid thing to say, but you know what I mean.. I'm not saying that we don't carry over those evolutionary traits, just I really don't think that genes make much difference at all in the way we think'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'also, its still quite early in the process, so end-results are hard to come by.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'to which i reply, we collectively dont have enough real understanding of the interaction between genes, societies, and the rest of the world to be able to support that statement.  or any of its alternatives :/'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm well I'd say the opposite, almost - there's basically no evidence whatsoever that genes have some predictable affect on the way people think, at least when the thoughts become even slightly complex'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'there's evidence that overarching things like maybe stress levels or patience can be affected by genes - but that's not thinking - and a patient person could be xenophobic, or not xenophobic, so it's not genetic at all'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'heh, you might be surprised how many mutations have been linked to cognitive differences.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'granted, most of those tend towards negative consequences - but thats just entroy at work - 'improvement' is a very small subset of 'changes', of course.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'no it's just underlying things. I mean If I'm more anxious than you ok, but I might be an extrovert because of it, or introverted because of it'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'you seem to be dismissing some pretty significant cognitive influences.  and describing some pretty big changes, in an effort to show those changes dont happen...'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I don't mean to - I think it's goes back to complexity, like we said before'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'one person, with some large, genetically influenced cognitive state, might end up extremely studious, say - someone else, with that exact same genetic trait, in a different environment, might end up being troublesome, and hating school'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'that is certainly something that can happen - there are so many factors that trying to isolate one experimentally is a ... non-trivial endeavor.  thus, any statement on the subject is either so general as to be useless, or so speculative as to be useless.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'right, so that's why I suppose I can't think of genes really having much influence on the sophisticated ways we think'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'you cant know, so you assume one factor is overshadowed by the others? hmm.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean we came from roughly the same genes right? and I'm pretty sure that the people who turned off the debate channel after getting tired of us going on about it don't have a "oh for god's sake shut up" gene :)'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'only when you talk'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hey!!!!'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill giggles
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Khonshu tickles Cilmarill.
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'right ok complexity - that's where it is'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'in broad terms, yes - but of course, one of the largest benefits of a sexually reproducing species is the wide variety  of individual genetic assemblages...'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the interaction of all these things, over and over.. I suppose I just think of the brain as a sponge rather than something that's predetermined to act in a certain way'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and im pretty sure everyone else in here is just a slight variation on my old beer-frog bot script.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'oh, its definitely both.  probably.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'wait you have a script that hunts beer-frogs?'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'no, i wrote a script that advertises beer.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'it earned me about 3 xp on some mush or other before it got noticed :p'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'Biden said that US soldiers will see bravery of Ukrainian citizens when they are there... any idea what does it mean? :D '
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'his meds wore off?'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'hes having a stroke'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'another stroke*'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'could be sclerosis?'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'its dementia being offset by stem cell treatment'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'for a while now all us presidents get stem cells'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'yup dementia - not sclerosis'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'thats why they look so old after office'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'They look so old after office because they're pretty damned old.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'just crack open a baby spine and drink baby'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'right but theyre lively and old while in office'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'with a steep decline'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'I don't care if Biden needs a reminder to get up in the morning. He's better than the monster that preceded him. One man's opinion, anyway.'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'trump is hilarious'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'i bet you go to stand up hours and act offended'
T3/r7/2022-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'JOKES!?>!?! Reported! im telling mommy'
T3/r7/2022-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'just saying, FINALLY DON'T EVEN THINK! about moving on one single inch of NATO territory'
T3/r7/2022-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'i just took a shit on nato territory'
T3/r7/2022-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'whatcha gonna do'
T3/r7/2022-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Razor: 'good thing he didn't say that to any child 10 or under, they are completely incapable of not going at least a couple of inches into NATO territory just to see what you'll do.'
T3/r7/2022-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: '1 trillion dollars of destructive force!!!! MANY DAGGERS!'
T3/r7/2022-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'nato is trash'
T3/r7/2022-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'sorry their great reset isn't working'
T3/r7/2022-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill headbuts Khonshu in the belly
T3/r7/2022-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'get out!'
T3/r7/2022-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Razor: 'who let Don Jr on here?!'
T3/r7/2022-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill cleans Mot's shit into a poop bag and puts it into the NATO poop bin - naughty Mot
T3/r7/2022-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'dont dis the great don'
T3/r7/2022-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'racist!'
T3/r7/2022-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill poops on Khonshu's race
T3/r7/2022-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'its ok not to like Nato'
T3/r7/2022-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'especially if you take into account how many civilians they've killed over the years'
T3/r7/2022-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'thinking nato can be more effective, disliking the outcomes of nato intervention and of course disagreeing with nato decisions are ok. Dislike Nato itself or the idea of what Nato is supposed to be, is just an edgy position. '
T3/r7/2022-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'i agree'
T3/r7/2022-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'this is the wrong channel for that kind of talk, k.  take it to uh ... sports? i guess?'
T3/r7/2022-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'is "gobbly gook" still an allowed phrase or is that something I should stop saying?'
T3/r7/2022-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'also, what about "the natives are getting restless" ? keep expecting our woke police to weigh in with some sage advice'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'gobblede-gook is hyphenated.  also yes, it was never a particularized slur, but rather an expression of distaste for foreign languages.  very versatile that way.'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: ''restless' is a dog-whistle term for 'identity-conscious' - it is considered a good sign, but not something you should be saying out loud.'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'ive never had 6000 nuclear weapons or my own country or been invaded so its hard for me to weigh in'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'if doing the right thing results in no life left on earth id rather they not'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'that attitude is un-american, m.  blaring your worthless opinion at full volume is how its done round these parts :p'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'for what its worth, sterilizing the earth was never an option, even with all the nukes.  making it unpleasant for the people who survived the fall of civilization, thats do-able.'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'just giving doomers what they ask for in their own self loathing'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'heh, im sure theres a generational joke in there somewhere.  'baby doomers'.'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'probabl'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'its debate channel so I may not even mean what i say'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'the resulting dust clouds and tidal waves from a 10th of all nukes being exploded would block out the sun for weeks'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'what are you going to eat'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'were already in a perpetual food shortage'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) IAC DO Fiendish: 'some lovely cream of wheat'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'preppers'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the great thing about being the devil's advocate is that you dont have to register as a foreign agent :p'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'preppers usually have recessive genes so those genetic pools will fail after a few generations of breeding'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'people with a different political ideology?'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'what else you got'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'especially the ones who had herb gardens'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'actually I really got into this preppers tv show'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'I have a copy of voter records so I know who to eat'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and I was always going into the off-grid mode on Smins'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'canibalism causes trichonosis or w/e'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'no'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'neuroligical disorders will cause brain failure'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'only if you eat certain parts'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'from the parasites and high mercury content of the human body'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'the rest of the bodies I'll feed to my dogs '
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'you mean prions?'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'not sure im not analytical at all'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'you know what i meant. i read to much to get stuck on nomenclature'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'parasites aren't as much a concern in the first world'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'braisn only have so much ram'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'the first world countris will be the ones nuked'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'brains don't have any ram'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'theyre not gonna be dieing and be like oh god we have to take out canada'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'damn them and their moose and hockey'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'theyre gonna bomb all major first world countries'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'I mean i suppose knowing how north koreans survive starvation in camps would help some'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'your brain might not have ram'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'pay attention to who eats corn is all I'll say'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'that's not how memory works'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: '6 callers ahead of us jimmy'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'you cant see the forest for the trees if you cant get past words bro'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'the purpose of a word or communication is to establish the idea behind the sound'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'not to be a dork'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'mot gets eaten first as a snack because the name reminds me of apple sauce'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'criss cross apple sauce'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'luckily for me i live in the USA so obesity prevails...'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'wrong channel for that, m.  try ... tech?'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the pc term is 'calorically enhanced', k.'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'breh im in iowa'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'theres only fat people'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'isn't iowa known for its corn?'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'kinda hoped it would be zombies not nukes. i can outrun almost everyone here while i smoke a cigarette'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'be the slowest least agile zombies possible'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'its feed corn'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'you'll have to compete with the meth heads for sustenance you know'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'if you eat feed corn assuming you dont get poisoned by the round up'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'youll create a nutritional defeciency'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'round up is harmless'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'itll take more nutrients from your body to process the corn than youd actually gain'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'thats what the CEO said'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'i will give you as much as you want if you let me tape you eating it'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'theres an entire field behind my house'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'you'd have go guarantee viewership'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'make me a patreon too'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'its gonna be more of a fans only type of thing when u start pooping'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'or only fans whatever its called'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'I'm a man'
T3/r7/2022-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'only fans doesn't work that way'
T3/r7/2022-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Abig: 'I have to notice in gq note 289093 that tinypotato completed the quest with 11 mobs to slay before any other participant killed something....'
T3/r7/2022-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'whats your question?'
T3/r7/2022-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'some people here have their life's goal to be the best in gqs'
T3/r7/2022-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Abig: 'none. I note the extreme gap between the participants. Of course it causes some thought to come up. Anyway, I think such a gap is not healthy'
T3/r7/2022-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Abig: 'not healthy as in "pro team basketball vs. amateur wheelchair team'
T3/r7/2022-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Abig: 'that is not somethin you want to see '
T3/r7/2022-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'some people just have it down really good, I don't mind so much'
T3/r7/2022-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I agree that the most fun you have is when you're against someone evenly matched'
T3/r7/2022-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but there's a big range, not just in gquests - I get a lot of fun out of simply trying to run away from people trying to pk me when I'm in hardcore :)'
T3/r7/2022-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Abig: 'tht is not my slice of fun. telnet here vs. totally maxxed and bordering cpu executed gq completion there ... not my cup of tea'
T3/r7/2022-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yeah, it can be asurprising just how much all the scripts and things makes a difference'
T3/r7/2022-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Abig: 'this way, it sure is in no way about who knows where to look nor about the quickest path'
T3/r7/2022-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'when I first started it was a bit overwhelmeing, almost like a tech competition - now I'm all hotkeys and s&d :)'
T3/r7/2022-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'I want to help my roommate, but his mental health issues are going to stop him from getting the job that he just started school for'
T3/r7/2022-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'I just don't know if I can enable the guy rn'
T3/r7/2022-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'khonshu is a fucking pussy'
T3/r7/2022-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'mad'
T3/r7/2022-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'yeah she's on some prince level good but nobody gives her credit'
T3/r7/2022-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'def taylor is amaze. i pissed o'
T3/r7/2022-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'i pissed off someone by having them paint a house and i played her shit the whole week'
T3/r7/2022-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'chronos eats jalapenos and thongs'
T3/r7/2022-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'chronos eats all'
T3/r7/2022-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'i think you are a bitch using gossip to start bullshit. here is the forum to debate that. you fucking git.'
T3/r7/2022-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'MECKTHAKEPTHU!!! ENGURII!! SPLENULATION!!!!!'
T3/r7/2022-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'we're working on will smith'
T3/r7/2022-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'again i do not recommend really reading anything on there, i put ancient sumerian religious texts into GPT-3 and had that write a blog'
T3/r7/2022-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'if reusing a condom would save 1 penguin, would you do it?'
T3/r7/2022-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'so many easy jokes there, none of which I will attempt'
T3/r7/2022-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'edible condoms'
T3/r7/2022-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Thumb Wars: 'someone is bored'
T3/r7/2022-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'penguins are also edible.  on the other hand, already freezing, so its not like its hard to 'save' them ... for later.'
T3/r7/2022-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 1337 H4x0r Fiendish: 'I bet they don't taste good'
T3/r7/2022-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i have it on good authority that they tast like chicken.'
T3/r7/2022-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'edible condoms, on the other hand - not great.  or you know - so im told.'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'why books are black%white?'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'why different characterd dont have different color text?'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the technology is there'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i read a book recently that had the alien text in cursive'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'it was 2x easier to read'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'imo, all books should go colored. and fonted'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Abig: 'I guess most authors/writers are not yet up to the new tech. They probably still think like terry pratchet to give DEATH SOMETHING SPECIAL'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xephinyr: 'Fuel, good idea.'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'where to go to demand that change?'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'btw. joking aside. that cursive text from the alien meant there was no need for things like "said the alien grumpily"'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'saves paper. saves forests'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'you people do care about the forests, don't you?'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'by "you people" i meant bookworm-types'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think "said the alien grumpy" is imporant, said Cilmarill in a very considered way'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'yeah. but the alien was unable to express any .. impressions anyway'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'it was all implied by the message'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: '"but there's still some extra impression the reader might get from it", growled Cilmarill'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'just playing :) I think I know what you mean, actually the lack of dialogue description is itself a very good way of conveying a certain 'alien-ness' :) I haven't read it though'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'it was Project Hail Mary'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'its ok'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'so watching the news - Putin has lost his mind right? or just surrounded by a tiny few people who tell him bullshit, right?'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'so watching the news - Putin has lost his mind right? or just surrounded by a tiny few people who tell him bullshit, right?'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oops'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'who did you believe when you lead a country of 44million that had a larger land mass than almost any other country'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'when an offset formally of your country decided to make oil deals wiht one of your largest deposits with america'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's such a shame, becuse Russia could be such a positive force for the whole planet'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'Youve never gone hungry'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'they stay broke because of the trainline that feeds their country to maintain such a huge land mass'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'dont eat for a few weeks then come back'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'What's your point, Mot?'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'my point on what'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well yes I can understand the infrastructure needs to be huge and is tricky, but at least push in the right direction'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'go hungry'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'The war in Ukraine, I assumed. I was wrong?'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'what about it'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'be specific or dont speak'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Sorry. I was unaware that you run this channel.'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'what is your bmi'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the point is that Russia could be a big positive force for the world - I don't really understand what you mean by saying go hungry'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'What's the point you're trying to make about starving. Tie it to something. '
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'then i encourage you to read about russias first president and his trip to texas'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'instead of me doing some research, just say it'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'if youre intelligent i encourage you to study why russia maintains such a massive land mass'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well here we are, so explain it'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'no'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill thought this channel was named 'debate'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Menpehtyre: 'and that, officer, is when the fight started'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'they maintain it because they have it. look at canada. 90% live on the US border but they still have ppl all over it and they're not left to their own'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'dumb'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'they have such a huge land mass due to previous invasions and no geographic barriers'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'read then debate'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'canada?'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'canada has the usa south of it and polar ice caps north of it'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'dumb'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'read'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'right so to have a conversation with you I have to read a book first?'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'one chick owns more land on this planet than any country does. '
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'before you debate something i would suggest you read several books'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'maybe you should learn how to not be such an irritating twat'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'that wouldnt serve me'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Thumb Wars enthusiastically high-fives Cilmarill!
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'also, ppeople live everywhere in candada. the majority live on the border for economic reasons. not unlike russia that groups people where it's most benefitial or the whole work and everyone everywhere.'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I read plenty of books, and have conversations with people all the time, and I don't give a shit about your intelligence, but you're just trying to make me feel stupid'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'im not trying to do anything'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'so being an irritating twat serves you because you can tell ppl to read books to avoid the actual point?'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'enjoy your mcdonalds'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'are you resorting to insults because you have no argument'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'i promise you've had more mcdonalds than me in the last 5 years. under the assumption you've been to one'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'https://www.rbth.com/history/330753-which-countries-dared-to-invade-russia'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'start here'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'e-h'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'Massive invasions and destruction their culture over all recorded history'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Torkin buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Ok, maybe we can back up a little. Not, you mentioned starvation a few times. Could you tie it to whatever larger point you're trying to make. Or even just state clearly what larger point you're trying to make?'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'i'll leave. i didn't wanna interupt ppl making you look wrong. i just wanted to point out that canada is bigger, and less fucked than russia. prob kuz they have a parlamentary monarchy and not a bullshit dictatorship.'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'there is no wrong or right in being human'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'no, that's where you're wrong'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Well, no, Nesamdoom. Canada is definitely less fucked than Russia, but not bigger. In fact the US and Canada combined are still smaller than Russia'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Russia is one big-ass place. And the majority of it is Siberia.'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'aww siberia, the texas of the soviet union'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'texas almost as big as ussr on my map, probably the right interpolation'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Siberia is more like the 20 Texas's of Russia. It's genuinely vast.'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'rhavage do you mean actual russia or the subsidiaries combined? Asian geography is not a strong suit of mine but I know canada is friggin huge'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Forgive the miles (vs km) but Siberia is 5.1 million of Russia's 6.6 million sq miles. Zowie.'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'I mean actual Russia, Nes.'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'the -stans are relatively tiny, i see rhavage's point'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'next time someone tells me they're from siberia, i'll ask them to clarify which part'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Ahahahhaha, Mush :)'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'i really thought it was mostly the blocs and stuff that made up everything. but then i guess i also don't know which parts are russia and what not or how it's section on the map compares. thanks'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'google type in lake baikal on google maps and zoom out...russia's BIGLY'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Depends on the 'stan.' Turkmenistan is kind of small, I think, but Khazakstan and Uzbekistan are quite large. I know that Khazakstan is more than a million sq mi'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'the old Soviet Union was mind-bogglingly vast, well over 8 million sq mi'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'ha i grew up with a ussr globe'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Russia is the biggest country by area, followed by Canada (Antartica is bigger than Canada, but it is not a country). Kazakhstan is huge, but it's an anomaly.'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'what about africa?'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'by the time i was in my teens we were trying to make the middle east the villians in movies'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Keep in mind that a lot of Russia and Canada are uninhabited (and some of it is uninhabitABLE) land because they're frozen deserts.'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Africa is not a country...'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'wait, Africa is not a country??'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill tickles Yuna
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Africa, of course, is a continent. But it also is vast. 10 or 11 million sq miles, if I recall correctly. Lemme dbl check...'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SonnyQuinn: 'continent'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'funny thing is in norther canada one day a couple years ago they had better weather than central US when I looked and I was so mad at the midwest for sucking so much '
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: '11,730,000 sq miles'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'africa is so many countries it doesn't know how many it is sometimes'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'I believe in terms of largest continents, it's Asia, then Europe, then maybe North America? So Africa would be maybe 4th?'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'lol i know, apparently there's some recent book "Africa is not a country" meanwhile Google suggests related searches are "is african a continent?" "what is africa's real name"'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'No, Yuna. Asia then Africa'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'so youre saying that russia has an absurd land mass to maintain and putin is charged with maintaining its economy and his largest export is being jepordized by ukraine owning one of the world largets deposits of natural gas'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'I misremembered. I was getting other metric confused. I think it was number of countries or something.'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'i could never justify murdering my brother'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'australia has to be pretty far up on country size tho right? It''
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Apparently Europe is tiny.'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'more disconcerting, Google says the answer to "is African a continent" is "yes"'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'This is obsence and nonsensical. but if you had to justify the act'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Yes, Australia is, like, 8th or something'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'I've always wondered how those Europeans managed to get themselves called a continent, since they're on the very same land mass as what we call Asia.'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'i would right russia before your sweaty obese body could get out of the chair. but i wouldnt do it. just like the us wont'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'But Africa IS a continent...'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Mot: 'because they see the sense behind it'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'Eurasia was always at war with oceania'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hey! have you never played the boardgame Risk?'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'also scorched earth mostly but like yea. it's a big country, where most ppl live on the beach and get to call ppl cunts... i'm not jealous... i'm jealous '
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: '"African" is NOT a continent :)'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'unless you say the African continent'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'someone tried telling me America is a continent, singular.'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Google is smart enough to spell check you. You may have Googled "Is African a continent" but the question listed in the results was "Is Africa a continent".'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Depending on where you're from, America may be considered a single continent.'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Same with Eurasia'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'no, you're wrong! i googled "africa is not a country book" which was the book i referenced, then google says People also ask and the box clearly shows is African a cotinent"'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'Eurasia is all connected. grouping chucks of connected stuff seems weird. N and S America are seperate enough. we still say central america as our version of eurasia'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Well, Eurasia *is* a single continent. It's one unbroken land mass.'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'we're probably hurtling toward 3, maybe 4 continents in the future anyway'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Except that Central America is part of North America'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'The Americas are also all connected (by an isthmus).'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Hurtling. Love it :)'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'central america combines them at the connective bit'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'central - the red-headed stepchild '
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'It's just the southern part of N America'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Africa is also joined by Asia by a tiny land bridge.'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'ok look, so clearly you lot haven't, but I've played Risk, and it's definitely north and south America'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'i have a red headed stepchild and she is great. obviously she is evil and i don't go to sleep without locking a door kuz i wanna wake up with my soul, but i still sorta love her'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'So some countries consider Afro-Eurasia as a single continent.'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'which countries view it that way?'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'afroeurasia is fucked too. just kuz ya can easily sail to somewhere doesn't make it the same place'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Dunno, I didn't keep track. I might also be misremembering and some were only suggesting it be viewed as a single continent but no country has yet adopted such a view.'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'it sounds plausible for sure, maybe relating to religious history'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'is the midddle east considered africa or asian?'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'ooo interesting, u ask an irani they will say they are european'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Some view the Middle East as its own thing, some view it as part of Asia. I don't think many view it as Africa.'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'i need to look at maps more. I can pick cities from blank sat photos in some places but have no clue about most the world'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'egypt is africa but is still viewed as mid east'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Yeah, but that's just part of the Middle East that also happens to be located in Africa, not the Middle East as a whole.'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nesamdoom: 'i've only met one egyptian but that dude was cool af'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Hmmm. I would be very surprised to learn that an Irani regarded himself as European. A Turk, on the other hand...'
T3/r7/2022-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Like, Greenland is part of Denmark but situated in North America.'
T3/r7/2022-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Untergang: 'polarization is stupid in politics. being pro choice or anti abortion are neither encompassing of the varied opinions. but everything is treated as a choice like that and its stupid. why can't i have the opinion that killing people that are fighting a murder is wrong but let people take death sentence rather than spend life in prison? '
T3/r7/2022-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'because nuance is dead, long live the soundbite!'
T3/r7/2022-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'a trade 1 gallon ("#1") holds approximately .65 liquid gallons'
T3/r7/2022-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'noone trades in gallons, they are too expensive in today's money.'
T3/r7/2022-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'ww3.'
T3/r7/2022-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'so close'
T3/r7/2022-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'WWE'
T3/r7/2022-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'so real'
T3/r7/2022-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'yesterday, when i was almost asleep'
T3/r7/2022-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i saw the vision of a nuke flash'
T3/r7/2022-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'made my eyes hurt. psychologically'
T3/r7/2022-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'it was weird. so real'
T3/r7/2022-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'shit like that is why i wont do two shows a night anymore. i wont, i wont do it.'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'So it's very interesting that there is a media blackout on the president's son rn'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'all politicians are crooks. change my mind.'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'literally you cannot look up where hunter biden is or what he does'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'i dont see a media blackout, a google search shows billions of news articles'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'just pointing it out. You cannot find ANY information on where he is or what he's doing'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'there's talk about him, but the man himself is a ghost. where is the president's son?'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'i'll give 200qp to whoever tells me where hunter biden is or what his job is'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'probably smoking meth out of a hookers bum?'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'laying low is an old but proven strategy...'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'it's the president's son. we all knew where chelsea was in the 90s, we had a good idea what the bush twins did'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'where is he? you literally can't google it. or his job'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'imagine caring about a poltiicians kid'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'might as well start googling what happened to "sock" the clintons cat'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Saturnian: 'imagine not caring about politicians'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'no need to imagine its literally the sane path to take'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'caring about politicians is like picking your favorite planet and then arguing about it'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'wHaT hApPeNeD tO pLuTo???'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'bah, I check up the news and I get angry'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'just saying (I think I'm allowed to swear here, right?) FUCKING Russians what on earth are they doing?'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'I've started checking the news less, think my mental health is better for it and I'd rather have that than be well informed'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think you're probably right, but I mean, it's actually happening though'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'still'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I remember someone on debate giving me the whole "fake news" thing before it all started'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'don't understand those people'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'what do you get from denying reality?'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I mean Russian state media is still denying that civilians, even children, haven't died, and that they never fire on civilian targets'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'we all thought Trump was the king of lying in the media but oooh, guess what, he was the pupil not the teacher'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'Putin is a real piece of work'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'he really is! and it's scary as he's just digging a deeper and deeper hole'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'maybe it sounds a bit tin foil hat, but honestly the more I see things, the more I realise basically, you just have to control the media. Which, in a non tin foil way, actually makes me feel good - just keep media, social included, free, and then idiots with too much power can wield it less dangerously'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) TrEz: 'media has to be accountable for false information'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'but who watches the watchmen?'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'oh i know this one...the blue guy'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well that's the point, as long as it's free, then sense gets through - social media is a pain, echo chamber, etc, but the problems really only happen when a small number of people get to decide'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'dr. manhattan'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) TrEz: 'what do you mean free'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'as in say what you like'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) TrEz: 'twitter is free and an echo chamber'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'If the press is free is it also free to say things that are false?'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'if you say something stupid, then someone else gets to say "hey that was stupid"'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'Twitter is a cesspit'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) TrEz: 'that's how you end up with echo chambers'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yeah, false things will be said, but ultimately they will also be called out'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's all fine'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) TrEz: '"I'm bipolar" - here's 50 likes cuz who's gonna call someone that's mentally ill a liar'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'called out and then blocked'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) TrEz: 'they aren't, that's how you end up with echo chambers'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and if people believe the false things, ok fine - that's much better than some overarching power deciding on what things should or shouldn't be said'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'is that your opinion about vaccine effectiveness?'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'Rupert Murdoch has had an enourmous influence on the world thanks to controling the press'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yeah I get the echo chamber thing, and it's totally an issue, but not nearly so bad an issue as a small number of people deciding what can or can not be said'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) TrEz: 'can you give an example'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'well I'm glad Elon's making a principled stand for people's rights...because 'oppressed' is first thig comes to mind when I think of him'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'right yeah exactly, Murdoch - I didn't even know about all of that until this f'ing Russian invasian made me look into media control'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'erm Rupert Murdoch controlled the Sun newspaper in the UK, and basically decided like 4 Elections in a row'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'he also owns the Times and the news of the world before it went away'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'between the sun and the times he controls what an enourmous % of the UK read every day'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I watched a documentary about him, and he was very directed at buying out firstly the popular papers or news outlets, and then the ones that were viewed as being serious, and was always very prescriptive about what they put out'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'for our american friends, in the UK there are a lot of regulations on what can be said on TV so our news channels are less polarised than yours but are newspapers are very polarised'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'so I'll take a bit of cancelling and echo chamber over the lack of freedom of expression in media any day'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill loves the BBC
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'they aren't perfect but they could be worse'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'for clarifcation - since I've just found out it's neccessary - BBC = British Broadcasting Corporation'
T3/r7/2022-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Guy of Gisbourne raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2022-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'It is the wrong channel for this bullshit.'
T3/r7/2022-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Mischan'
T3/r7/2022-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Summoner Yuna was caught! Run! Channel police monitor SNEAKER Mushambo is after you next!
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Just read this little chestnut on FB (think Florida schools): Gay kids read thousands of books about straight characters, yet they still grow up gay. But y'all are worried that if your son, Billy, reads just one book where a penguin has two dads, he's going to wake up the next day and ask Brad to the prom.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'I was unimpressed with excerpts of the supposedly racist math textbooks'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Evine: 'how many gay kids end up straight because of culture? That could make a difference, for example, because of the low population of gay people, perhaps .1% is low, but .1% straight becoming gay is pretty significant lol'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'I still haven't seen an excerpt of what they found objectionable'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'No worries, Evine. Nobody "becomes" gay.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Evine: 'i disagree....if people can force you to be straight, they can force you to be gay :D'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'if I was interpreting the images correctly, it MAY have been that they were teaching kids how to analyze statistical distributions, with the example chart data being of "racist tendencies"'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Nobody becomes straight, either. You can be forced to act straight, but your innards know the truth.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'it wasnt even worded that exactly, but the data was suggestive of the wild and crazy notion that some people are semi-discriminatory'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'oh, brother'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'nothing about "Percent of white people who wish they could own slaves"'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'but there was also some reference that the textbooks reflected Common Core, which I don't really know anything about other than that it may or may not be similar to "new math"'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'in which case, I'd strike that textbook too :)'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) No More Wars: 'People dont get to pick what they are. Thinking its a choice is offensive and just flat out wrong.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'I can assure you (or anybody else, for that matter) that at no time did my sexual preference come to a vote. I made no decision at all. The girl down suddenly looked different than ever before. And better.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Evine: 'true Rhavage :D but where do you cross the line between being forced to act straight and actually being straight? I mean if you're forced to your entire life, pretty depressing'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Yes, Evine. Extremely depressing. A condition that I imagine most gay people lived with for their entire lives. Times have changed.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'girl down the street, I meant'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Evine: 'likewise, what about the opposite side? I'm not saying it's the case now, but what if it became the norm to be cool if gay, or people start forcing straight people to being gay? For example, if there's a government subsidy for individuals indicating gay, i would imagine poor people might be more likely to indicate that. Then you get people being forced to act gay, lol equally as bad as people being forced to pretend to be straight. I think right now people are on the edge about how their kids are being influenced, but you can't really isolate your kid from the world'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sheesh Kabob: 'you should try to get that sci fi story published'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'whose business is it, really, aside from the people involved?  I mean, it's a crime to sexual assaault someone, regardless if you're straight or gay.  I'd worry more about exposing children to assholes.. Assholes are a far more worrisome type than straights or gays.  It seems to me that if you solve the asshole issue, the gay/straight thing kind of becomes a non-issue anyways.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: '"Election police force" has that nice fascist ring to it'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'lol'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'its obviously there to enforce...'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'erm'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'i mean protect our "democracy"'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'this guy left the "unless your brown" part out of his statement "yo ushould have confidence that your cvote counts in the state of florida"'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the problem with solving the asshole issue is that then the population would be too low to sustain our technological civilization.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think you've mixed up assholes with good people who work hard for a living'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'no, they mix pretty nearly indiscriminately.  also, you seem to be operating under the false assumption that those are two separate categories.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'ok so you're just trolling - I am an easy troll btw :)'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'trolling occurs in many layers - the truest troll is, at its heart, a simple statement of profound truth - wrapped in enough layers of misdirection, snark, irony, and 'humor' to protect its fragile self from exposure to the willing ignorants, the oblivious fools, and of course - the indiscriminate haters.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: '"no, they mix pretty nearly indiscriminately."'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'that being said, i was either trolling or clearly and simply stating a true opinion - and if you think about it hard enough to decide which it was, that might get you close to the point.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'actually, that was not even good enough to troll me, so pretty bad :)'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and yet, you are engaging.  all part of my master plan.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'that hard working people are arseholes?'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zathon: 'some of them yes'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I told you I was an easy troll :)'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'some of everyone are arseholes'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the categories of 'good hard working people' and 'assholes' are not mutually distinct.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'tbh the jury's still out on you'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'that is pretty much what i was going for, yes.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'd say the percentage of arsehole increases as you climb the ladder of "not having to work hard"'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and I don't mean "not working hard" I mean "not having to work hard"'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'hardly a surprise.  there is a rather high percentage of sociopaths at the very top of corporate/political power structures - that thing you noticed? another consequence of the underlying phenomenon.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zathon: 'i dunno my last job was pretty much 90% assholes'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'agree'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i have heard, tho i cant comment on the statement's accuracy, that several of the assholes i work with are decent in other contexts - i will, naturally, never know, because why would i want to spend any more time with those assholes?'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zathon: 'I feel this is true i think a lot of people take work as a compitition'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zathon: 'but outside of work its fun time and not having to impress a boss so more chill i suppose.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well if we agree that arse/assholes is people who have less care for others'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'oh, if only, z.  pretty much everyone i work with would benefit from that kind of positive motivation.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'no reading, no listening, no thinking, and for fuck's sake no fixing of the dumb, because why would anyone bother?'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well so then I'd say again, I think there's less arsehole among people who have to work hard for a living'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: '... you sound alot like someone who has never worked with his hands, c.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I've never worked'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'pretty much all of the ones i have met are so aggressively inconsiderate that outright hostility might be an improvement.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zathon: 'My last job had a lot of heat so that added to the attitude of everyone i suppose.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zathon: 'heavy lifting and other stuff that made people uncomfortable so lots just took it out on whoever was around them.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zathon: 'were a few that were ok though'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm sounds like humans are just trying to put other down then'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zathon: 'I just try to find the ones that arnt and stick with them.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'people suck, c.  most of them? not in the good way.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'that's not a nice thought'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think the underlying, driving force of humanity is that we should, if we can, be nice to each other'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zathon: 'Wish more felt that way'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and in adversity, we pull together - so, people with no adversity, money, power, whatever, give less of a shit'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'very few people are willing to do the thinking necesesary to consider the question, c.  let alone reach that conclusion.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zathon: 'Being selfish is kind of built into humans as a survival tactic i feel.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'oh sure, it is a proven pro-survival characteristic.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'dunno - I think it's actually more natural to take care of each other, and it's culture that tries, and fails, to remove it from us'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'that is also a proven pro-survival characteristic, c.    alas, those two principles are in tension, and provide benefits to slightly different groups, under slightly different circumstances.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yeah, so, we take care of those close to us, and sometimes that means we have to take advantage of those that aren't'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'yet another pro-survival trait - under some circumstances.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the fact that all of these are so successful is why they are conserved.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but the underlying thing is to take care of each other, that's what's at the bottom'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'nah, whether or not it is pro- or contra- survival is dependent upon circumstances.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and of course, you also have to consider pro- or contra- /to whom/.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think taking care of each other is 100% built into us, it's just that it's easy to "get ahead" if you don't give a shit'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'so what you are saying is, some individuals benefit from behaving contrary to the behavior of others ... which pretty well restates my position :p'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yep - well I did say agree'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's like what we need is for most people to care, but for a few people to not give a shit'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'that is a pro-survival strategy for the species as a whole, yes.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'which sound almost precisely like the ideal tribe 100 thousand years ago - not that I agree very much with evolutionary psychology'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'if you look at the core principles, its pretty hard to disagree with 'evolutionary psychology' - most people actually disagree with mis-applications of it.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'but yes, one of the _very_ few universally pro-survival traits is _variety_.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I just mean, evolution is cultural now'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'a species with lots of variation is more likely to be, at least in part, suited to dealing with a new environment.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'sure, sure, culture, psychology, organisms, all interact - and thus, each is part of the environment that the others may, or may not, be well-adapted to.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'all through human history populations have been driven by the need to have more than other populations, and it just happens that the best people to make that happen are people who don't care about the other population, that stands to reason'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'mmhmm.  maximing availability of resources is a pro-survival trait.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and that runs all the way down'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'to your group.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and also to the species as a whole, since one sub-group that becomes more proficient at obtaining/exploiting resources tends to spread that trait to the rest of the species.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'right down to the arsehole manager you might have, who, because of feeling this same cultural instinct, thinks that it's ok to to not be nice, and also themselves is probably taking revenge on people who made them feel like shit at some point too'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'that is certainly one potential expression.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'right, so I get the evolutionary thing, but now it's just boiled down to "oh I better hurt this thing so I get more"'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'which is, to be sure, an unpleasant experience for the folks who have to deal with it.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'still though, I think that humans really, if you just relax and feel your true nature, we know that actually you get more if you work together, and care for each other'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'bloody hell I think I'm going to ascend in a minute :))))'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'did you put something in my tea? :)'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'nope, still gotta disagree - you are ascribing a _very_ high level of awareness to people who just ... dont ... go there.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'm not saying that people are aware'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but there's an overriding sense through all of human culture that "we should be nice" it's what all religions are based on, regardless of how it manifests, and it's not a trivial thing, like disney movies and stuff, it's a deeply felt, solid, and immovable force of human nature'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'you did, you just didnt notice - 'relax and feel your true nature' requires a degree of self-reflection that most people just never bother with.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: '... pretty sure you havent looked at many religions, if you believe that.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and of course, there is no such thing as 'a religion' without 'the people who claim to follow it' - which includes, i am sure, some mix of decent folk and, to bring it back to where we started, assholes.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'name me one religion that doesn't have "just be nice to each other" as it's fundamental principle'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'to be fair, most of them seem to have died horribly - but there is also a pretty significant difference between 'be nice to each other' and 'be nice to the non-believers'.  that last is a fairly new development.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'm not a religious person btw - at least I don't follow any religion'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'right, I agree - but that's not the religion itself, it's just arseholes using it as an excuse'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'trying to discuss a social construct independently of the people of whom it is comprised is an exercise in futility.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'all the religious wars were because people needed a reason to kill each other, not a single time were they because they were being religious'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yeah, I agree'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but let's just take one - wars in the name of christianity.. so, do you think Jesus would take a sword to someone?'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i have only heard opinions like that from people who focussed on post-roman european history - to which i usually reply, 'nah, they didnt need an excuse'.  not that that discussion goes anywhere, of course.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'from what i hear, he had a preference for whips.  having met a money-changer or two, i can definitely sympathize.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'another, Muhammad - you think he'd have slayed thousands to make people understand what he's saying rather than just saying it?'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'to which i reply, what difference does it make what he said, if people dont bother to listen?'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the bible wasn't even written till like 500 years (I think) after Jesus' apparent death - it was a construct of human culture and need'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well yeah, I agree'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i have met very, very few people over the years who were really willing to try and understand their own religions, in context.  most people just dont bother - intelectual laziness is a pro-survival trait, you see.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but what I mean is, why is that people feel a sense of guilt when they're bad?'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean, not all people'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but generally, being bad is a thing'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'that's why we have laws'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'pretty much all of law is a (shit) attempt to say "oi! don't be bad to each other!"'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'conscience is a social construct, and a pro-survival trait at the community and species level - and a lack of it, in some members, is a pro-survival trait to those individuals and also to the community/species.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'agree'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'that is a pretty soft way of looking at it, but sure.  its a defensible position.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'try analysing 'the law' from a different prespective tho, see what comes of it - assume that most laws are intended to benefit the lawmakers, rather than the governed.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and of course, you will need to compare/contrast democracies with every other form of government - democracies obscure the difference between 'governed' and 'government' :/'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm, well I'm being blunt really - I'm not talking about parking fines and stuff, I'm saying murder, theft - and obviously those pop up in religion all the time'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'just different expressions of the same core principles.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean in the extreme case - if anyone think that murdering someone is ok everyone would think they're mad - I'm not saying that simply not murdering someone is the same as being nice, but you have to say that our entire society is built on the idea that we should try to limit people being horrible'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'not that it's very successul :)'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but we're getting there?'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'in my experience, a small portion of governance is directed towards 'making the world better, or at least not worse' and the rest is about priveleging one group over another.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: ''people being horrible' is subjective'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'but yes, a species which routinely destroys its own members is exhibiting contra-survival behavior.  they have existed, but didnt last long.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well yes, I'm just exaggerating - like murder, assault, theft, etc'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'you arent wrong, s.  thats why i tend to focus on pro- and contra- survival as a metric, rather than things like 'nice vs. horrible', and such.  it also neatly avoids getting derailed by moral arguments.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'dunno - it's generally the truth that people think we shouldn't be *really* horrible to each other, but yeah I get it, it's also the case that we can be habitually horrible and it's ok'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but that was where we started, right? so people with more money and power are more horrible, because they can get away with it, but more importantly because they don't rely so much on other people, and so they lose the instrinsic human element which is that we have to take care of each other'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'pretty much unavoidable, really - that situation arises from the interaction of several conditionally pro- survival traits.  and of course, you cant forget the psychology involved - the difference between 'how we treat people' and 'how we treat foreign devils who obviously arent people' is a pretty big divide.  and operates at pretty nearly every level, from 'some other family' to 'some other nation'.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i would say rather that it is less a question of opportunity than that the traits that enable a rise to power are also the traits that encourage asshole-ery.  '
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'strictly speaking, it is possible for nice folks to rise to power, it just requires the cooperation of larger groups of people - and is thus harder to manage.  a single self-serving individual is much easier to find than a cohesive group.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm yes, but I think it's a lot to do with an every decreasing circle of more and more powerful people keeping other people outside the circle'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'sounds a bit extreme, I'm not saying they're bad, just, imagine if you grow up in that environment'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but I do think there's an instinct to keep yourself in that circle, though I've no experience of it myself :)'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'de-prioritizing your own benefit is usually a contra-survival trait, yes.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean I agree, it really is just human nature'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I just think that it's also human nature to take care of those close to you, and actually that's what really underpins everything'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: ''close to you' is a very flexible category.  and yes, very nearly a universally pro-survival trait.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well that's the center of it, I think'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'like, your close family, you'd be willing to compromise your own morals to protect them'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'then, a little further out, your wider family and friends, you don't take care of them so much'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'keep going, and then, the children in hothouse workshops, or just being murdered - we care, but you're not going out there to protect them are you?'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and that's fine'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'pretty much.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'so, if you grow up as a president's daughter, you care about what's around you just the same, and that's fine'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'who grew up as a presidents daughter?'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i havent been paying attention :( sorry'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Gaury.
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'sorry, stupid example :) I just mean, if you grow up in a rich a very privaledged family'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'gotchya'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but, though I have no problem with you acting privaledged, I do think that you will grow up caring less about people who are less privaledged'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'does that prohibit poking others with a cane?'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'd poke you with a cane if you were a starving toad on the pavement ;)'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i would say its less about privelege and more about 'not a part of the local in-group', but yes, that works out to more or less the same thing.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it would be the defining image in my successful campaign to be prime minister :)'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think it is the same thing'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'there's circles of influence, and it's ok, I just think the smaller the circle gets, the less people care about the other circles'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'strangely, the people in the big circles adulate the people in the little ones and maintain the idea that they're somehow better people - which in turn maintains the idea in the mind of the people in the little circles that they actually are better'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i would say 'closer' rather than 'smaller', but yeah pretty much.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'm going to get banned for socialism in about 2 minutes :))'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'dont get me started on socialism'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'in my experience, what you describe is a deliberate attempt to appeal to folks who would normally be too focussed on their own little group to care much about the one doing the talking.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'noone gets cancelled for being a socialist anymore - its the socialists who do the cancelling  these days.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oh you've no idea how much I want to get you started on socialism, Gaury :)'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'please dont.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I mean I don't mind, it's just human nature, but it's this desire to be bigger, better, than other people'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'personally, I quite like the feeling of just staying small'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but I get it, you have to have people who push and who don't give much of a shit, and weirdly the way we all work means that these people pull economies and society onwards'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's like when Gaury gives me a drag - I'm the socialist and he's the capitalist ;P'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i can mathematically prove why small scale communes work, and why large scale economies dont'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'ive never dragged you for profit like a true capitalist though :/'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'b/c the larger the cooperative venture the greater incentive to cheat ?'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'thats a large part of it, but not even the point...no'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'also, it's harder to punish people with sticks '
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'its more to do with the value of the money relatively'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but you can't remove inequality'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'you kill 10 things with just a dirty look, it takes me 20 potions'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'the value of a currency is a reflection of inequality, both internal and external'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I just have an instinct that this big fight to be bigger than someone next to us is both natural and difficult to manage'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'am i allowed to swear on this channel? something tells me no...'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'imo, should be able to...'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'fuck!'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: '*waits for consequences*'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Gaury wibbles threateningly.
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'ive had enough warnings, i figured id ask :P'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think I'm still not in jail?'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'consider me your mine canary :)'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'im a canary?'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'There is no debate social.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill giggles - I'm the canary! I'm still alive!
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but I do think money and power is a corrupting influence'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'help channels contains the answer.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and that it's ok'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'disagree.  money and power dont corrupt, they enhance and expose character traits.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I don't mean one or the other, I think it's an interaction'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'if you're capable of corruption, then you'll naturally be more capable in places where corruption is neccessary'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'tell me how being corrupt doesnt offer an incentive to be more corrupt...'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'I could go for lots of money. Don't have much interest in power''
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'till you have it'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'so it's kind of like a boyancy thing, and that's what makes the higher levels of power and money both more selfish, and more corrupt'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'a generous and kindly person, who gains wealth or social/political influence, will tend towards greater generosity and kindness.  whereas a jerk will become more jerk-like.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yeah totally, it's like a viscious circle'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'No, Gaury. Just give me the money. It's not power I want, it's the independence money can buy.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill steals all of Rhavage's money - ha!!
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'alas, it is easier to amass wealth/power by being a selfish asshole than by being nice.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'alright you can have the money if you can have the power. now what?'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm idependence money is a lot less than power money'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Now what? I don't have to save up for a vacation to, say, Tahiti. And I stay as long as I like.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'no one said anything about them being independant of mutually exclusive...'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm well isn't the issue - is it possible to arrange things so that everyone could afford a holiday in Tahiti without working themselves to the bone?'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'or....fk. ok afk weed and smoke. we can talk a bit more i guess but i dont think anyone here is making very sound or valid arguments with substance'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'or even afford it at all'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'it is, in the strictest sense, possible, g.  however, it would require a large number of people to behave in ways they are not inclined to behave.  thus, extremely unlikely.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yep, I agree'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i traded an iphone 4g yesterday to a hutterite for 5 chickens and 3 sacks of potatos'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i bought this 4g for 20 bucks'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'thus, when people get more money, they increase their desire to keep more of it'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'Gaury are you saying you're not stoned yet?'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'no brb, afk weed.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Well, money is a very nice thing to have. Money is independence if you know enough to use it for that.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'we were talking before (well I was I suppose) about being small'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yes, I get it, I'm a halfling, etc'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'What about being small?'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'point being - I think it's better, instead of needing to get more money, but to need less of it'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Unless you'd like a jet ski. '
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'Guary was going to prove, mathematically, that this was possible for all of us, but now he's going to get wasted instead :)'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Just as well. I wouldn't understand the math anyway.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec flutters his wings gently.  Clearly, it's good to be a Sprite!
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well jet skis would cost so much if they weren't priced so high that the people who owned the jet ski company shares couldn't sit on their backsides and live in a mansion because of their jet ski share profits'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'erm wouldn't cost so much'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yeltazig: 'get wasted? weed does not make you wasted. I dont think it even makes me high any more'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill checks Yeltazig's eyes with a tiny torch
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Very true, Cil. But I'd still like to afford a jet ski.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'without that profit margin, the jetski would exist as a very low-availability item, if at all.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yeah :) that's really what it boils down to - how is it now? what do I want? I know, it's nice to imagine though'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'sorry brb, i have to write my house mate a passive agressive note'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oh crap - the flat earth one?'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'the evicted flat earth one? yes.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'no, there arent two.'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'ok note done :) '
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'if there were two then they could conduct an experiment to un-prove themselves'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'ive thought about that :P'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i was offered scholarships to NHH in norway and LSE in london....shoulda taken them :P'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'for a graduate degree*'
T3/r7/2022-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'you'd still have ended up in a mud arguing for socialism, and I'd still be waving Gaury banners'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'seems short-sighted (to a dunce like me :) to try and restrict public education to migrants children, no? Shouldn't hope be to train next generation of workforce, so they can be productive members of society instead of turning to life of crime ?'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'no counterpoint means I've automatically won this debate, yay me!'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): SNEAKER Mushambo dares disturb the universe!
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'my opinion is that due to late-stage capitalism and technological advancements we need less people working and more people spending which means basic income so their education level doesnt matter. There will always be those who pursue it despite its cost but if you keep it available or possible via achievement or competition then you will have enough well educated people coming in  '
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'what is the difference between 'late-stage capitalism' and 'early-stage communism'?'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dark Goose Xaeris: 'accumulation of wealth in the 0.001%'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'they are polar opposites'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'is cronyism inherent in all?'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dark Goose Xaeris: 'when an inherent scarcity exists, cronyism and nepotism automatically fall out and exist. There's an inherent need to "protect the tribe" and that leads to people engratiating themselves to others to ensure they are part of the tribe, or bringing those in and insulating them.'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'i'm still pretty surprised my college never rescinded my econ degree for being ardent supporter of occupy wall street lol'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'so what system is in the US, is it more towards communism or more towards capitalism?'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'crony capitalism?'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dark Goose Xaeris: 'It's neo-capitalism. It's nowhere near communism or any sort of socialist scenario. It has socialist programs (which shocks americans), but neo-capitalists love to defund because it pushes the cost to people, rather than look for any EOS.'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'more towards capitalism imo since communism is way off what america has, socialist ideologies? sure and i think socialism and capitalism hybrid would do well here'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'lot of tragedy of the commons in america, privatized benefits (hoarding) with publicly shared costs'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dark Goose Xaeris: 'I calculated it this morning; An american making the same as I do pays more federal taxes than I do in Canada.'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'huh, I always thought that when government 'steal' your money this is communism, but when private 'investor' it is capitalism... :p'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'so many things to learn'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'oh no its a libertarian'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'im outta here'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dark Goose Xaeris: 'Libertarianism is conservatism for poor people.'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'ayn rand is "philosophy" for selfish nitwits'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'I'm non-educated fool, not a liberterian :) '
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'pretty sure those are the same'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'i usually respond with "that's cute" when someone says they're libertarian'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Count Zensch nods at Guy of Gisbourne.
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'only a sith deals in absolutes ... or more accurately, siths usually deal in absolutes virtually exclusively'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'I love that "only a sith deal in absolutes" has the word only in it'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'lol i wonder if the writer was aware :P'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'woulda been nice if the quote was said by someone who turned out to be a sith '
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'who said it? was it yoda?'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'maybe? '
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'I guess he wouldn't have said it like that to be fair'
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hellion: 'super powerful jedi i am , yet hard is english '
T3/r7/2022-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'how soon until Fauci eats his words? I give it til Fall TOPS'
T3/r7/2022-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'there's a lot of "fun" data in here :) https://assets.morningconsult.com/wp-uploads/2022/04/26144616/2204148_crosstabs_POLITICO_RVs_v1_SH.pdf'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'i am shocked, SHOCKED to learn that companies are lying about how much of their price increases are actually due to structural reasons'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: '"juicing profits by passing on higher-than-needed price increases under the cover of inflation, war and supply chain squeezes"'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'wtf is higher than needed'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'acceptable profit seeking duh'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'their whole purpose is to charge you as much as you will pay before you buy from someone else'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'also, Glen Taylor Roasts Animals Alive'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the worst thing is that people ever imagine that public companies will ever do anything but'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'all bank adverts here are trying to convince you that they're part of the family or something, that they're with you all the way'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'last US president to exert price controls was Dick Nixon, interesting'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'what's considered proper use these days? "climate change" or "global warming"'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Decimator: 'climate change, I think'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Decimator: 'global warming insinuates that all areas will "warm up", which is not always the case'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'well but as a global average it warms up yes?'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'global warming is often misunderstood to mean that everything gets warmer at all times, which is obviously incorrect.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'hence changes all sorts of ocean patterns, causing more exterme fluctuations'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Decimator: '@Mannec has it'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Decimator: 'the global average trends towards warming, but not everything will be consistently warmer all the time'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'by contrast, climate change is a useless phrase, because climate is always changing, always has - so its not an interesting statement.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'i know that nights are warming up, relative to day averages, which is a thing that messes up plants'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Decimator: 'I mean, I think "human-caused climate change" is a better term'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'careful d, it might be contagious.  and yes, as a global yearly average, warmer is a thing - but in some areas, at some times, also colder, which makes it easier to convince yourself its not happening at all :/'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'lol I'm reading about the pushback to ESG initiatives, trying to understand it'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'now anthropo-genic climate change, _that_ is a more interesting topic - but alas, much harder to offer clear evidence in support of either side.  damn near impossible to manage a decent controlled study, and all the variables confound each other.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'they're basically grouchy that companies are getting evaluated on stuff such as their business' exposure to 'climate change''
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'esg?'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'oh theyve got the metaverse for that :) lol the industrial buzzword being touted is "digital twins"'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'sadly, not the houston texas rapper. "Environmental, SOcial, Governance" as one of the criteria when maknig investments'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'eh, i dont put alot of faith in simulations - very vulnerable to slightly imperfect assumptions.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'ah.  sounds like some nutjob's idea of investing advice.  probably has a core of actual meaningful ideas, but with so much crap accreted on that it fails at its own message.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'much the same could be said about pretty nearly every political, social, and economic -ism.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: '"climate change" is such a rubbish phrase, agree, it should be like "climate crisis" or something'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'correlates with financial operating metrics apparently'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'by the time a crisis becomes noticable, it will also have become unsolvable.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'so there's actually a fiduciary duty TO consider it'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'like don't invest in candy bars, climate change WILL wreck the price of choclate straight up'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'well, like my gramps always said, 'dont shit where ya eat.'  good advice at any scale, methinks.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'lol, yes agree'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'it's like seriously folks, we look back on smoking as a health risk like DUH of course inhaling smoke for 50 years isn't that great for you'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'my grandad always told me to stay small (I've always been very small, yes, halfling, but rl small, etc) but I think that's good advice too - stop trying to be big, popular, get lots of things, etc... just stay small'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'so seems perfectly plausible that hundreds of millions of cows to support 7.6 billion people might just be like a lot of smoke?'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'to be fair, it wasnt obvious at first.  and even less so in many markets, since alot of tobacco world-wide isnt nearly as radioactive as the stuff we get in the us.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'there are some areas im willing to let efficiency slide - and a thick, juicy steak is one of them.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think the trick is to reduce what you need, rather than increase what you can get'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'its a perfectly functional strategy - but exploiting all the resources you can, as fast as you can, is _also_ an effective strategy.  under some circumstances.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well, it is for the person who's got it all'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'right up until scarcity of resources becomes a problem, which is why the big lizards tended to die, while the tiny mammals kept going.  back when the sky fell that time, i mean.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's just a shame that giving a shit about people isn't some kind of currency that they can report on in the morning news'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yes I said shit - get ready for me to be in jail :)'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'damnit mannec, embarassing myself on the wrong channel'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'questioning mammals and dinosaurs coexisting, yes they did'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'they dont coexist today, which is the natural outcome of the small/efficient vs. big/resource-intensive strategies in a time of scarcity.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'well we can all get social credit scores like in china and black mirror'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oh gosh I *hate* the star review thing - that black mirror episode'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'it says something that a social-dystopian nightmare show may as well be a documentary of one of our economic and political adversaries.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'wasn't that the point of that episode? that just trying to be popular makes people actually care less about each other'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i mean, essential economic partners.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'i think china ripped it off from the show though'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'we've got similar stuff here no worreis'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i quit looking for deeper meaning in entertainment a long time ago.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'ever since i realized that shakespeare was a soap opera creator.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I don't believe you Mannec, and I also disagree with you :)'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec pats Cilmarill on her head.
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'culture, and so media, reflects what we thing, you know that'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'it's obviously worked out well with Amazon Reviews, the inability to game that system'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'its so cute that you think we, collectively, think.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'that's why a programme about killing an unstoppable hoard of zombies is so popular :)'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oh come on, we totally do'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'to be fair, splattering zombies is pretty entertaining.  i learned all about it from an episode of ... alucard abridged? dammit, what is the name of that thing...'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'a hundred years ago we didn't realise time slows down when you go fast, a few more hundred years ago, we thought the earth was flat'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'nah, thats a myth.  its just that the faster you go, the more you notice how long it will be before you get anywhere :p'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'least we can rely on being at the center of the universe'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill pokes Manned medium medium
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'funny story, m.  we are.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'i gotta open up private window to search for "is earth the center of the universe" or else the algorithm will think i'm becoming deficient'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: '_every_ point is the center of the universe.  always has been.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'then why are we criticized for thinking the world revolves around us?'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'umm I think that given the universe is all moving away from the same point - then that's the center?'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'critics dont need a reason, m.  they just want to make you feel bad.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but I mean yeah, the universe revoles around Mushambo :)'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oh no - Mannec'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'every point in the universe is moving away from _every_ other point - which means either all points are the center, or none of them are.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hang on - me too'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'im still searching for the counter 'data' ... how can there be so much on flat earth and nothing on geocentric universe?'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'unless...flat earthers ARE right after all!'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): SNEAKER Mushambo dares disturb the universe!
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'careful there, m.  that line is almost as destructive to rational debate as talking about hitler.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'oops.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I had a hair cut by a woman who clearly belived in falt earth, it was very difficult to hold back because I just wanted my hair to look nice :)'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and you thought censorship was all politically enforced.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'well didnt intend to send us down who knows what rabbit hole, i was just trying to understand how they plan to restrict companies in how they invest their money...corporations are people, remember? infringes their civil rights '
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'corporations are whores - offer them a little moolah, theyll do anything.  a bit of a tax break or something, corps will do whatever.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'right, so it's basically restricting corporates from "values-influenced investing"'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'this pushback is relating to anti-woke agendas i guess'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'mmm.  could be.  tho i must say, most of the 'anti-woke' i encounter is basically head-shaking, tsk-ing, and watching the woke collapse under its own fail.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'tho to be fair, _most_ of the corps that take a political or social stance seem to suffer for it.  woke is hardly the only example.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'meanwhile, the florida governor wants to throw mickey mouse in jail for also disagreeing with the free speech of how a corporation chooses to exercise it, or operate as a business'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'disney deserves so much worse than 'being subject to the laws of the state they do business in.''
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec drops the mic.
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'it's because they operate much more efficiently than the state services they were initially granted contorl over like permitting their own buildings'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm I'm pretty lost, but basically corporations are like sociapaths, any show of giving a shit is just to get more money for the shareholders, and any political move to restrict them is just a show, and that's ok, that's how it is?'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'florida's governor wants to lock up mickey mouse'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: '_effective_ corps are sociopaths.  its when they stray from that core principle they tend to suffer.  all their customers are willing to go along with 'we want your money', because thats how things work.  but any other stance is likely to offend some of your customer base... which is a counter-productive strategy.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'pretty sure he wants to do much more horrible things to the mouse - cant disagree with him, personally.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'after what the D did in that rap battle? no holds barred.'
T3/r7/2022-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'if i was better with graphics, i'd pitch it as a political ad and beef up my power plays'
T3/r7/2022-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'I'm surprised no one wants to wade into the abortion decision'
T3/r7/2022-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'I'm sure smart internet folks like us can conduct ourselves with rational exchange of ideas and respect'
T3/r7/2022-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'Probably change the other side's opinion if we try hard enough ;)'
T3/r7/2022-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lasher: 'or maybe people come here to escape all that bullshit?'
T3/r7/2022-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'bullshit'
T3/r7/2022-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'hmmm true, thanks for pointing out we all need safe space'
T3/r7/2022-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lasher: 'maybe debate whether or it is good or bad to 'abort' a trolling dickhead for the overall benefit of the community?'
T3/r7/2022-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lasher: 'it's at least relevant here.'
T3/r7/2022-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lasher: 'that wasn't in response to your comment btw, broader subject.'
T3/r7/2022-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'karma, hell or nothing?'
T3/r7/2022-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'or what else is there?'
T3/r7/2022-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'we all live forever, but through the memories of other, and through the lasting effect we had on each other, and the subsequence effect they have on other people because it'
T3/r7/2022-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'whats that then? sounds like nothing?'
T3/r7/2022-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i dont live forever'
T3/r7/2022-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'nothing physical no - but if you think about it, all we really are anyway is the thoughts in other people's head'
T3/r7/2022-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'speak for yourself, I'm a real boy'
T3/r7/2022-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill giggles
T3/r7/2022-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'imo, one viewpoint beats everything. we've got reactions and we take actions about bad people etc. yes. but here is the beautiful part - its all just a natural accident. '
T3/r7/2022-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'with this attitude, everything makes sense'
T3/r7/2022-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'with hell or karma... those get rather complicated'
T3/r7/2022-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the simplest thing wins. '
T3/r7/2022-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I don't think at all that there's some kind of devine or cosmic power that gives justice to the world or people's actions'
T3/r7/2022-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'exactly.'
T3/r7/2022-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'other than your own conscience, and of course different people have different amounts of that'
T3/r7/2022-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hello, heaven, karma, etc, it's just a sort of short cut to make people not be bad to each other - which of course is a very good thing'
T3/r7/2022-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'some monkeys are assholes. they are mildly conscious. do they have monkey-gods to judge them?'
T3/r7/2022-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'dolphins too'
T3/r7/2022-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'there is no way to make hell or karma simple'
T3/r7/2022-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Oh, what fun! 10 killed at a supermarket in Buffalo! Jesus.'
T3/r7/2022-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'shit like that is why everyone should choose not to eat.'
T3/r7/2022-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) OMG It's Aleks: 'Or be sure you're always packing so you can defend yourself, and others'
T3/r7/2022-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'I suppose that unlike city dwellers, I *could* grow all my own food. 25 acres.'
T3/r7/2022-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'in re: monkey gods, the answer is 'zookeepers', f.'
T3/r7/2022-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to OMG It's Aleks.
T3/r7/2022-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) OMG It's Aleks: 'After all the crap that's happened over the years, I don't go anywhere without my sidearm.  In Florida, it's conceal and carry which is fine, I just make sure to have it because you never know.'
T3/r7/2022-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'its a hard life, r.  much better quality food, but loads of work - ill stick with my grocery store/shooting range.'
T3/r7/2022-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'anyone want to explain the rationale behind a "Defund the Media" t-shirt? would've asked guy wearing it but i had ice cream :-('
T3/r7/2022-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'i figure it's anti Big Bird'
T3/r7/2022-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'its a response to defund the police - based on the stance that the media are, collectively, ruining everything.'
T3/r7/2022-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'also, the bird must die.'
T3/r7/2022-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'the media has been owned for centuries and people act like its new '
T3/r7/2022-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'corporations are people too, remember?'
T3/r7/2022-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'people suck.  down with people.  and corporations.  and birds.'
T3/r7/2022-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'not that they exist.  the birds, i mean.'
T3/r7/2022-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'only insofar as we believe in them'
T3/r7/2022-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: '"the owls are not what they seem" always been one of my favorite pieces of graffiti '
T3/r7/2022-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the cake, on the other hand, was real.'
T3/r7/2022-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'i dont think the peole who wear such shirts know or understand enough about how broadcast spectrum WAS freely given '
T3/r7/2022-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'seems like it's just another slogan for the lets go brandon crowd'
T3/r7/2022-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: '"the media is the virus" lol'
T3/r7/2022-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'pretty sure its just a way to shell tshirts.'
T3/r7/2022-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'also yes my thought, lots of cheap merch sites selling copycats. Trademarks must be a liberal plot to be avoided'
T3/r7/2022-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'With limited resources, should attorney general's be focused on suing Big Tech? Or like "real crimes" ?'
T3/r7/2022-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'https://youtu.be/FL1reDn9pJU'
T3/r7/2022-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'is german a real language?'
T3/r7/2022-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'no'
T3/r7/2022-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'how do I know it's not just a simulation, and someone is just making up funny sounds to mess with me'
T3/r7/2022-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'it didn't exist and niether did germans'
T3/r7/2022-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Decimator: 'You heard it here, Germans are made up'
T3/r7/2022-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sheesh Kabob: 'whats the point of the whole simulation belief? like what difference would it make'
T3/r7/2022-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'only america exists and only when trump is president'
T3/r7/2022-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Spronktar: 'if you think German sounds funny wait till you've heard Welsh'
T3/r7/2022-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'I'm not american so I'm not sure that even exists'
T3/r7/2022-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Archangel Trihex: 'so are germans really australians?'
T3/r7/2022-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'actually the simulation thing is funny but it'ss best outcome is we don't matter.'
T3/r7/2022-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'are you all just AI?'
T3/r7/2022-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'this channel is really the most triggering colors isnt it'
T3/r7/2022-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Spronktar: 'beep boop no I am a normal human who eats biomass and sleeps 8 hours a day'
T3/r7/2022-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'Population increase and the resulting drops in IQ and living standards as proof'
T3/r7/2022-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'enshuldigung?'
T3/r7/2022-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'if you're not american then i'm sorry but you are either not real or you're one the ppl storming our border meaning we need a wall. upside is planes are a thing so if you exist you can fly in '
T3/r7/2022-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'channel = german flag colors'
T3/r7/2022-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'the simulation is running out of Processing power'
T3/r7/2022-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'coincidence?'
T3/r7/2022-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Spronktar: 'the simulation was never meant to go on this long, but they decided to just let it run and see what happens.  that was around 2014'
T3/r7/2022-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'possibly'
T3/r7/2022-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'lol, cil can confirm i dumped everytghing '
T3/r7/2022-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'everybody excited about getting some new shots for the monkeypox? ENJOY'
T3/r7/2022-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'smallpox vaccine ftw'
T3/r7/2022-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'yeah, bet they change it from one vaccine a lifetime to one a month lmaoooo'
T3/r7/2022-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sheesh Kabob: 'obvious solution is just to not go outside ever again'
T3/r7/2022-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Punkgirl throws back her head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2022-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'gonna be smallpox boosters soon'
T3/r7/2022-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Archangel Trihex: 'im down to never go outside again'
T3/r7/2022-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'my husband is a vaxxtard, he knew this day was coming, he got his shot 20 years ago, he knew this day was coming! lmao'
T3/r7/2022-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'what's a vaxxtard?'
T3/r7/2022-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Archangel Trihex: 'must be why im high function autist'
T3/r7/2022-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Punkgirl nods.
T3/r7/2022-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: '18 kids, 1 teacher dead. Well, that's just the cost of keeping our precious, beloved guns.'
T3/r7/2022-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'in case anyone's interested in US issues polling data, these are crosstabs from survey yesterday (firm's legit, I'll vouch for methodology): https://assets.morningconsult.com/wp-uploads/2022/05/25191612/2205161_crosstabs_POLITICO_UVALDE_SHOOTING_RVs_v1_SH.pdf '
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i think youtube need more channels'
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i think ww3 is extremely close now'
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'is that the new wrestling show?'
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'yes. each wrestler can carry only 3 nukes, not more though'
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'Id watch it'
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'China may try to attack Russia'
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'because'
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'naah they need wheat'
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'To achieve what?'
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'because they always wanted to do it anyway and there is no better moment for that. and would never come probably'
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'Thats not really a reason? To take their land? Food? Wealth?'
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'funzies?'
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'history'
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'which gender tends to troll more. males or females?'
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'that doesn't sound very inclusive'
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'hm'
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'anyway. my emotional math says that the end is near. '
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'only 10 people will survive from the apocalypse.'
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'and they have to repopulate.'
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'a trilliom or two should be invested in fusion energy research right now. '
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'yesterday'
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'it wouldnt cost nearly that much to build a working fusion generator - its just that noone wants to dedicate a decent-sized chunk of otherwise useless desert and a county-wide kiddie-pool to make it work.'
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: '2 trillions to figure out how to make a pocket powerplant'
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'that would run a house. in arctic'
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'anyone up for watching The Thing together and commenting on grouptalk?'
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'or.. Tremors'
T3/r7/2022-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'its friday. lets live, people'
T3/r7/2022-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/01/gop-contest-elections-tapes-00035758'
T3/r7/2022-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'maybe nukes are good?'
T3/r7/2022-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'definitely superior to say, bottle rockets.'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'it seems scientists have more faith than religious people'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the difference is that some have to WORK for faith, but some have to work BECAUSE of faith'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'something like that'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well it seems to me that a scientific approach is the attempt to remove faith, but the religious approach is to embrace faith. However I think both ways of thinking are trying to find the same place - to understand'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'yes. at first it seems like that'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cyndr: '...'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'in a way, it's just like thinking scientifically is because you want to go a bit slower'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but. when a scientist sees a weird thing, he has 100% faith that its something simple. '
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'autofaith'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cyndr: 'what's this debate all about?'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'who has more faith. scientists or religious people'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shipwreckd Kazul: 'what about George Michaels?'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'ei thing the scientists'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'no I don't think so. I mean not proper scientific thinking. even the simplest thing is way to complicated to really every understand. Nut you try'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cyndr: 'religious people have faith in a higher power, but scientists have faith in humanity and themselves'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'can we back up to a definition of "faith" please'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'belief'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well surely belif without proof'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cyndr: 'if you have faith in someone, is that religous? or faith to a higher power????'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'not at all, but that sounds more like trust. Faith is like unassailable trust'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cyndr: 'is this about trust or faith?'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'scientists get paid, religious nuts do the paying'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'case closed'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but the whole point with science is that you always hold some doubt, and try to prove it out'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): SNEAKER Mushambo, sitting in the peanut gallery, takes aim and nails Dixon in the face!
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'scientist dont even consider trust, faith or belief. they just.. do things'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cyndr: 'religious peeples are faith and science peeple are trust and evidence'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'for a scientist, this faith thing is like brain mechanics. '
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GyVx28R9-s'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'not at all, most scientists, historically, were deeply regligious. it's just another way of understand what things are. Philosophy, theology, physical science. If you'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'there's really no such thing as brain mechanics'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'hm'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'we can't even work out how a 3 point pendulum moves, let alone the weather, let alone the brain. or even a single cell. '
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'yet we're expected to believe they can land a man on the moon hmmm...'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'you release the brake of doubt and let the brain work nonstop until it comes up with a thing'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'its very mechanical'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'brake of doubt is a lovely phrase'
T3/r7/2022-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'also yes, they got to the moon, Mush *peers*'
T3/r7/2022-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'thats funny. im reading that "Dark forest" book. and now, one day after yapping, theres the same topic in the book. literally :)'
T3/r7/2022-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but i guess its a popular issue. carry on'
T3/r7/2022-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'thanks for taking it easy for all us sinners Fuel :)'
T3/r7/2022-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'SEX FOR FUN IS SIN! ! ! ! ! ! !  !'
T3/r7/2022-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'maybe'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Love & Wars: 'Just 17% of Americans in the CNN poll said they'd be happy to see Roe vs. Wade overturned, with 12% saying they'd be satisfied, 21% that they'd be dissatisfied, 36% that they'd be angry, and 14% that they wouldn't care. Most Democrats (59%) and nearly half of adults younger than 35 (48%) said they'd be angry. And a 59% majority of Americans said they'd support Congress passing a law to establish a nationwide right to abortion, with just 41% opposed.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'so Roe vs Wade is in the bin'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Menpehtyre: 'yup'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i dunno, i heard about it from some rando stranger's car playing fox news - it might be fake.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'ill believe it when comedy central reports on it, not before.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Quiet Nuala: 'Not in the bin, left up to states'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the previous decision is binned, not the a-word.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'its kind of spooky, all of the various law-tubers i occasionally listen to, with a variety of political leanings, expressed the same opinion - the way roe was originally reached was bad law, regardless of how anyone feels about the outcome :/'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'im probably gonna have to dig into it to find out how they justified overturning it, tho.  'the previous scotus got it wrong' is very much _not_ accepted as a reason to overturn precedent.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'the argument is that substantive due process is a mistake'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: '... that statement would need _alot_ of context.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'that's why clarence thomas's opinion includes a statement that he will move to overturn griswold, lawrence, and obergefell if future cases are brought before the court because they are all substantive due process'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'the opinions have been leaked for like 5 months now, it's on you if you're interested in this stuff enough to listen to legal youtube yet didn't read them. they haven't really changed between then and today'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'you mean the concept of substantive due process itself is suspect? thats ... big.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'welcome to a scotus that features questionable judges'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'and yes, clarence thomas specifically said he would get rid of substantive due process'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'bah.  i dont pay attention to spoilers or previews.  until its in theaters, it aint worth worrying about.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'when it's the only scotus opinion that has ever been leaked in the nation's history, you maybe pay attention.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'from what i hear, its not.  granted, it aint a common occurence, but im pretty sure it happened back in 1945 or so.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'assuming you're on imm'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'oh, you're t0'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'a draft of an opinion has never been leaked before ever, some vague details have been revealed that clerks have overheard'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'hmm.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'The only question that's still up in the air is whether Thomas will get to also rescind Obergefell v. Hodges and Texas v. Lawrence like he's salivating to. Even if you're not LGBT, striking down Texas v. Lawrence would probably lead to some states criminalizing any sex besides vaginal penetrative sex, even for opposite-sex couples.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'hmm.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Thomas even wants to strike down Griswold v. Connecticut, which was a decision that protects the rights of married couples to buy contraceptives without government restriction. The party of small government my ass.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'The entire 6-3 opinion was based on substantive due process. At this stage, there's no way Griswold Lawrence or Obergefell survive'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Because how dare married couples practice responsible family planning?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Love & Wars: 'What happened today was a travesty and Im scared of what is to come. America is going backwards and its disgusting.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'Lawrence in particular is a nightmare beyond reason. The right to privacy evaporating in an instant. If they get rid of Lawrence, Griswold and Obergefell are probably gone by default.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Griswold predated Roe v. Wade. It won't fall just because Roe v. Wade did.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sheesh Kabob: 'the dems should try pack the court, and run on packing the court in midterms. they're really in trouble on the economy, so it would be worth tasking the risk'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'bah, search engine is useless, its drowned out by recent events.  ill have to see if i can find that one video for more details on historical events :/'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'I love what happened today, I hope they ban abortions in every single state.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'Dems can't pack the court, they don't have a majority.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'Sinema and Manchin are just republicans with blue tshirts on. Dems have minority in the senate.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'looks like less killing of innocent human beings, looks like a historical win for the world today.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'It shouldn't have come as a surprise, Wars. The Republican Party has been passing anti-abortion laws for over a decade precisely so this would happen. They then made sure to unconstitutionally pack the courts in their favour. Twice. This is also why every vote matters. Stop thinking your vote doesn't matter or that you should protest vote just because your preferred non-Republican candidate didn't win the Democratic primary. Trump was clearly evil even during the primaries, but whoops, let's not vote for Hillary because she isn't perfect.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'This would never have happened without Trump at the helm.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'Or Bush 2.0 at the helm.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'Took Bush to make this happen today too.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Love & Wars nods at Summoner Yuna.
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'oh boo hoo I can't kill my innocent child in my womb because I had irresponsible and unsafe sex. boo hoo. '
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Republicans who lie? Inconceivable!'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Mischan.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'But I stand by what I said.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'if you don't want a baby, get a hysterectomy. Problem Solved. Hopefully they'll make it legal across the board so we can have less liberals having babies. That would also be a great wonderful day in history. '
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'I wouldn't bother dignifying you with a response, Punkgirl, but just so you know, if you get raped in Missouri and want an abortion, it's still illegal.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Is Punkgirl in fact WeaponGuy's new alt after his old account was nuked?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'Congrats on your irresponsible and unsafe sex as a rape victim in Missouri.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'still isn't the fault of the innocent life you want to murder buddy.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Droki: Just Missouri? I thought most of the red states ban abortion even in cases of rape and incest?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'heh, as if lies and corruption are limited to the other party ... know what politics would sound like without them?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec starts to hear the faint sounds of a cricket chirping.
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'also picking the smallest minority of abortion cases literally less 1.5% rape/incest cases does not do your debate justice. Please try harder.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'I am glad that I don't live in USA'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'No, most red states allow abortion in cases of rape and incest with their trigger laws. Missouri's trigger law is bananas. It violates interstate commerce clause too - it prosecutes for going over state lines for an abortion.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'USA is fucked up in many ways'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Mannec: Both sides doesn't work when one party engages in it on a scale of ten times the other party.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'missouri has very civilized knife and gun laws ... so you had options :p'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'Missouri's abortion trigger law is basically the same thing as the interstate slave recovery laws that caused the civil war.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Is a law banning going out of state to get an abortion even constitutional`'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Is a law banning going out of state to get an abortion even constitutional?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'I know a chick who had 9 abortions in one year, multiple abortions in a year being used as birth control is a much higher percentage than your rape/incest abortions. '
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'Of course it's not, but we'll see if this SCOTUS decides to reinterpret the constitution when that law is challenged.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'in my opinion, the situation is so monumentally flawed that it doesnt matter who did what, or how much - the result is still a slow-rolling dumpster fire.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'hope all you pro abortionist get sterlized, that's all.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'If interstate commerce dies and we have illegal travel between states, the US would die.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'So that's cool!'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Hopefully, the eduated will just flee Missouri and brain drain that cess pool into the stone age.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Modi: 'should be fine if the folks with the means will adopt all the unwanted babies '
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'well, they'll be having more kids and their population will grow.. where as.. your state will keep killing them and your population will decline. So yeah, cool story bro.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'it wasnt _that_ long ago that abortions in parts of missouri and arkansas included a free tubal ligation... though to be fair, that was mostly provided to individuals of how shall we say, a lower economic class?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'Prosecutors in the cities and blue counties of Missouri said today on national news they'll be refusing to prosecute this law, but you know the rural counties will go after it'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'oh no, state and federal laws and prosecutors turning everything they do into a shit-show ... must be tuesday.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'it's nice to know that liberals will be extinct in a few centuries, if you all keep having abortions there won't be any of you left. I'm totally for it in your states until you all die off, jus sayn. '
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Punkgirl smiles happily.
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'I'm not sure if you're a troll or an idiot'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'go have another abortion, pls'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] SonnyQuinn: 'i think if you going to play you gotta pay...'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: '"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl is a nonentity looking for attention.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'well everything should be responsibility free didn't you know that Sonny?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Classic Vost enthusiastically high-fives SNEAKER Mushambo!
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'not relevant, p.  didnt you know? liberals reproduce via contagion.  i learned all about it from some radio talking person who hates colleges.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] SonnyQuinn: 'now rare circumstances like rape yes i think they need the morning after pill'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kason: 'so punkgirl, you're willing to support the law that has devestating affects to "1.5%" of people who get the procedure?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'They're just trolling for attention. Don't respond, we should all know better.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'no abortion is wrong, I'm trolling because innocent human lives is wrong. '
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'killing*'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'That's just like your opinion, bro'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kason: 'fetuses aren't living'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl is also pro-cancer since that is also a lump of cells'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'if you don't want babies, don't have sex. it's literally like third grade educational stuff. "Babies come from sex"'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'If yo udon't want an abortion, don't have one!'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'punkgirl, tell me why you like cancer.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'ah, idiot'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'cancer cells don't turn into fully functional human beings either. that's a stupid argument.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] SonnyQuinn: 'when you go FUCK another person you learn in 7th grade health that it has a good chance of making a baby and if you take that chance you need to step up not kill the problem'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'Punkgirl is probably vegan too'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the role schools play in sex education is a different topic - i can say from experience that nothing i learned in 3rd grade was useful.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'and I don't know what kind of education you have Kason, but fetus are in fact living.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'no p, its not a stupid argument, its politics :p'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'don't diss veagns'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Frankly, your beginning debate tactics are only to rile up the mud.  My arguement is valid.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'Fun fact: Many school children in the U.S. **aren't** taught proper sex ed in school. Nor is affordable contraception available in many areas of the U.S.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'as long as they're not trying to make it illegal to eat meat'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'a 6 month old pregnancy is still consider a "fetus" but guess what if you remove it from the mother, guess what, still living. '
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'i mean, logically, shed have to be'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'The only thing "funny" about today's ruling is it doesn't dovetail with the whole "Great Replacement" conspiracy '
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Modi: '-50'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'abstinence only, right?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'cry more tears baby killers'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl, the procedures for performing an abortion are in the bible.  Why do you hate god?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'first off, not religious Ailat, so you can suck it. You don't get to use that argument on me, some people just know that killing innocent babies is wrong, it's not brain science.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'illegal immigrants dont need to worry about abortion, m.  they can keep on replacing greatly via immigration.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'You literally said earlier your primary reason for being happy was just to punk liberals'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'no actually I didn't, you can't read obviously.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'I said liberals dying out would make me happy. Please reread or taking a basic reading class.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'take*'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl, how many children have you adopted?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'So liberals are less than human?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'why would I adopt a child I didn't make? I have a child that raised beause I spread my legs to pregnant. I took responsibility for my actions like an adult. '
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl hates children.  Gotcha'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'i feel sorry for your kid'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] SonnyQuinn: 'no vost wrap that shit up and if it happens step up and taake care of you shit yall talking about its in the biblw and shit because deep down you know its wrong so you throw random shit up hoping it might make sense'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl, why do you hate fhildren but love fetuses?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'you shouldn't, she's very well rounded and much smarter than any of you. Which, thinking about doesn't say much, because you're all pro baby killing, so meh.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'please tell me you homeschool her'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Love & Wars cackles gleefully at SNEAKER Mushambo.
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'why would I hate kids? because I don't want to adopt other peoples babies who had irresponsible sex and don't want to take responsbility for their actions? that makes me a kid hater? wow your guys arguments are really really bad.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl, why do you hate children?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'I just answered you, please take a basic reading class.. again.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Love & Wars: 'so your not ok with abortion but you want liberals to die?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl, why do you want to try to punish people who get pregnant via rape or incest?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'I like how this oneuses phrases arguments like "really really bad" '
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'dude if you want to change the laws and say I can kill whoever I want whenever I want, I'm all for abortion. If I can't kill innocent human lives, neither can you :)'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] SonnyQuinn: 'well in every city in the us health departments give them away for FREE pretty affordable to me'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'why do you want to kill an innocent baby that was conceived from rape or incest when it had nothing at all to do with the rape or incest Ailat?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl only like people that cant talk back it appears.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Summoner Yuna: 'SonnyQuinn: That is factually untrue.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'should probably ban periods too and wanking'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'You're projecting sentience on cells that dont have it.  Try again.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'innocent children dying'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'You DO know that there are other religions where abortion is actually demanded by religious law right?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'Ailat it's a baby bruh, we don't say I'm pregnant with a fetus, we say I'm pregnant with a baby. '
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'You only have empathy for cells but not actual humans.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'not a baby.  it is a lump of cells.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'no, it's not just a "lump of cells" '
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'can you hold that baby?  '
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'I mean if you want to go that route, I can say that you're just a lump of cells.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'true story.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'no, you cannot.  I have sentience which that lump of cells doesnt'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'so is it okay if I harm you because you're just a "lump of cells?"'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'You're defending a lump of cells'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'so killing people in a coma is okay then?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'actually, I'm made of the same types of cells as stardust so...'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'not just a lump of cells, a lump of cells _with wifi_.  totally different.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'yes if they signed a directive'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Go ahead and try.  expect me to defend myself back since I have thought.  That lump of cells is just cells.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'how do I know you're sentient? you don't seem like it to me, I think you're just a lump of cells, because I said so.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'they've proven fetuses have thoughts and dreams etc.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'are you a proud supporter of the death penalty Punkgirl?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'they've proven a heart beat and a brain a 3 weeks and 6 weeks buddy.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] SonnyQuinn: 'well mush there are religions that practice cannibalism but doesnt make it right'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Evidently you're an idiot and didnt take a biology class?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'who's proven? please tell me 'the scientists"'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kason: '"they've proven" lol'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'b/c omfg the irony will kill me'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'I can link you if you want mushambo but I mean I'm pretty sure you know how to google, you can probably find it on your own, I mean you aren't too bright but you can probably manage it.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Lies, Punkgirl.  They ront have thoughts and dreams.  It is a lump of cells'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'Sonnyquinn, i was talking about Orthodox Jews so...'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'so a fetus which is an unborn baby up to 9 months aka BIRTH is just a lump of cells?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'no I will make sure to provide links on claims i make'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'so you're telling me you're cool with killing 8 month old fetuses?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'so please indulge me with the link'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'cool bro, we're done talking tho.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'punkgirl, do you think that you should be theown in prison if you menstruate or if a guy masturbates?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl, why do you hate women?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'you're really unintelligent dude, go kill a newborn or something.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Are you self hating?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'actually i doubt theres anywhere you can get an abortion at 8 months'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl, why do you only defend xells but not actual humans?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'wrong.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'let her focus on finding me the links'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: '8 states allow abortion up to birth.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl, why do you not respect religion?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'although, my dog also dreams so...'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirls links are trash.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'alaska, colorado, new hampshire, new jersey, new mexico, oregon, vermont, new york, and the district of columbia and I'm not google for you mushambo, do your own research dude, you're dumb.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'if you can't manage to work google, nobody can help you.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl, why are you a willing tool for Jerry Falwell and the religious right but claim you arent religious?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] SonnyQuinn: 'ailat your a collection of cells if you wanna just argue semantics'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'Punkgirl: 'they've proven a heart beat and a brain a 3 weeks and 6 weeks buddy.''
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'big difference between 'legal abortion' and the other kind.  the other kind is available between -9 months and +999 years.  usually not covered by most health plans, tho.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'we already argued that sonny, he's "sentient" so it's okay, guys a moron.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'or girl, w/e '
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl, why do you say things and then not substantiate them?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'woops wrong one:  (Debate) Punkgirl: 'they've proven fetuses have thoughts and dreams etc.''
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'why do you wanna kill innocent babies Ailat?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'why do you wanna kill innocent 8 month old babies?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'you wanna do this?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'Why cant we all get along?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'why are you anti religion and wanna murder god's babies?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] SonnyQuinn: 'ailat you sound like someone whos trying to google liberal arguements and your failing to make a point'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'Are liberals made by God?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'why are you a allowed to live as a clump of cells but not a 8 months old baby?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'punkgirl, why do you deflect so much?  Could it be your arguements are only meant to antagonize?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'so you don't wanna talk about killing 8 month old babies? You avoid it?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl, why do you keep defending a lump of cells that has no thought?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'why do you hate women so much?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl, why do you keep moving goalposts?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'here I'll give you a link since you're stuck on the clump of cells thing.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl, why do you ignore science?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: '"fetuses" as you love to refer to them, have been show to display "New research shows that babies display glimmers of consciousness and memory as early as 5 months old"'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'here is a link from science.org https://www.science.org/content/article/when-does-your-baby-become-conscious#:~:text=New%20research%20shows%20that%20babies,consciousness%20in%20electrical%20brain%20activity.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'and to answer your prior quesiton, no it wouldnt bother me if yo ucalled me a clump of cells no'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'but guess what, a 6 month old is still a fetus with thoughts and memory, crap that you're trying to kill, that almost makes it sentient.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl, does this mean you support abortions before 20 weeks?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'so it should be okay to remove a clump of cells within 5 months then right?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'why do you only like sciencists when they support your religious views?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'you're the one pro abortion up to birth buddy.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'ask yourself if you still support abortion up to birth.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'ive not said that in the least'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'so now you're slandering me'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl, why do you move goalposts so much?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] SonnyQuinn: 'ok ive seen enough ignorance for one day lol back to arrd goodluck punkgirl your fighting a loosing battle better luck teaching a fish to live without water...'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'sounds like youve found a reasonable compromise there'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'again Mushambo I'm not religious, so I always support science, you can't use the religious argument on me, I don't care guys and I don't care what the bible says, if you wanna debate that, debate it with somebody actually saying abortion is a sin or some garbage.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'so your argument is entirely based on science 100%'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'I agree sonny, they're just garbage, so channel off.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl, do you support abortion before 5 months?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl, why are you so quiet now?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Could it be you were a troll all along?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'anyone ever notice how the ones bragging about how smart they are usually are the dumbest?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'you can't even google dude.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'smartest folks i know, know A LOT, and always say "i dont know anything''
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'so like quit talking.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'dont opress me'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'you had turned the channel off, i was starting a new topic'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl, why do you want others to research your flaims when it's your responsibility?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'off'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'yeah, you can't even run a basic google search, so you don't really get to talk about anyone being smart, like ever, at all. It's not a good topic for you. Learn to google first.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'Dunning-Kruger effect'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'i dunno, you kinda solved the problem by admitting that before 5 months fetuses dont have sentience, sounds like a good lesson for america, stop taking everything to the extreme and maybe youll all get along'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'I never said they don't have sentience, neither did scientist Evl, they just said 5 months old did, that doesn't mean before that they don't.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: '5 month old fetuses* to be exact'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'What is this channel'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Dixon falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'came back to do a quest ended up throwing up a bit'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'full of a bunch of retards that wanna kill babies basically.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'Debate: who is the best HC killer?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'not much of a debate mush'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] SonnyQuinn: 'lol hey dixon'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl, why are you trying to stretch a study into saying something it doesnt?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'Also, Punkgirl, I'm definitely not on your side LOL'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'I'll opk a 5 month fetus'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'back to afk'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'yeah we call that the null hypothesis - ie the null hyp is that they are not sentient, has only been shown to be possibly untrue after 5 months, if it were earlier then it would be reported as such'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'Yeah, Ailat not even remotely gonna respond to you, because you give absolutely nothing to the conversation except for that you think a baby 1 day before birth is cool. Like you're irrelevant to talk to, like ever.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'so you can keep it up, but you won't get a response, bye.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Love & Wars: 'why am I not surprised punkgirl still uses the word 'retard' in 2022'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl, when did I say that?  Please provide the message.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'oh, did I offend you wars?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'I don't care.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Sweetie, you need to learn to debate.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'You sound like such a loving person, I'm sure your kiddo is well-adjusted '
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Love & Wars: 'Im just enjoying sitting back watching you make an ass out of yourself so please continue Punkgirl'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] SonnyQuinn: 'pst punkgirl its impossible to talk sense with people that talk nonsense....J/s'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] SonnyQuinn: 'but ttyl good luck'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl, why do you hate women and want to punish them for some reason?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] SonnyQuinn: 'ailat you need to stay on topic talking about learning how to debate'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'Yall hear about that woman who miscarried and cant abort?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'Ailat: you said fetuses are clumps of cells and therefore fetuses can be aborted, and you're pro life, a 9 month old in the womb a day before birth is a fetus still Ailat, I wasn't going to respond to you, but I think you are really unintelligent. So let me educate you, anytime a baby is the womb up until birth, it's a fetus, so the day before birth, still a fetus, and you're like hey, it's cool to kill it.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'I hope that explains it for you, and I hope you got a little bit education. good luck'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'and having a brain like structure and the ability to breath does not necessarily involve sentience'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'I love being in a country where there are people with more guns than IQ points'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'yall seen any strawmen around here?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Dixon's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl, why do you love cells but hate children?  You said yourself that you view children as a punkshment for having sex?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'irresponsible sex, more intelligent people know about birth control, it's usually liberals who don't.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl, why do you assume anything about me?  I'm just asking questions.  A common debate tactic.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'i think the US is just full of straw men and women'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'BURN THEM! :)'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'ive met people, m.  its not a high bar to jump.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'go murder my babies in the womb at 8 months guys, I hope you all get sterilized.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'more*'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'why do you hate sperm'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'who you callin guys, punk?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl, do you feel as though your life went somewhere it shouldnt have and now you feel powerless, so want to punish others?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Dixon patiently twiddles his thumbs.
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'Punkgirl, why do you wish ill on others?  I wish only the best for you.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'we have a 24 week limit on abortions here in aus, guess what, we dont have any of this nonsense debate about it'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A piece of Ailat: 'You are misguided and I think you are wrong and need counselling, but you deserve badic eights.  It's a shame you don't see the same way.  Punkgirl, why is your heart so full of hate?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'well that was fun.  anyone have any thoughts on the new york rifle and pistol ruling?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Classic Vost is shooting at Mannec with his finger guns saying, "Pew! Pew!"
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'its in line with the constitution'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: '... pretty sure thats not what 'finger-bang' means, but i appreciate the sentiment :p'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'yes, I am glad that I don't live in New York'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'I cant wait to walk into a bang'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'bank, but hey bang works too'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'there are _so_ many reasons i dont live in new york.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'thats because you have never lived in NY'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'does this mean we'll get to fly with guns?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'Im pretty sure the framer's wanted me to'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'AR-15s for everyone'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'NY is trash mostly because of government corruption and bad policy'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'they have the mafia and good italian food'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'Not sure how to feel about it. I guess if you're going to legalize concealed carry, deciding that only people who bribe the sheriff's dept in a city have concealed carry doesn't make any sense. I know concealed carry in the Bay Area is pretty explicitly corrupt in how it's handed out, only major donors to th sheriff's campaign fund get permits. But I also want to restrict guns more, and am personally pretty anti-gun. '
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'fun fact: faa regulations regarding the carrying of firearms dont apply to private pilots, and the tsa doesnt monitor charter carriers.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'well yeah with the way first class is these days, who doesn't fly private ?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'do not understand why you would be anti gun'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'perhaps if people were pushing for better mental health services things would be better'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'Because the only country with all these mass shootings is the US, the country with with all the guns.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'i mean you are you anti knife too?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Make it Reyn: 'to prevent all the mass knife killings?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'We aren't having mass stabbings.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'definitely, i was haunted by a knife in my bedroom closet '
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'of course not, d.  we have guns.  mass-stabbings occur in the uk, which has very strict anti-gun laws.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'we are pushing real hard with a lot of leftist garbage'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'And the mental health thing is a bullshit argument. Gun advocates don't care about mental health, they certainly don't do anything to promote the care of mentally ill, they just like to pretend that's the problem when the obvious problem is that the only country with all the guns is the only country with all the mass shootings.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'its really important to us that 5 year olds be able to change gender'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'yeah, apparently it is actually?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'No other country in the world has elementary schools being ravaged by gunfire, despite the fact that humans in every country have mental health issues.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'i dont remember any mass stabbings when i was in the uk'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'Switzerland doesn't have a problem with mass shootings'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'Switzerland doesn't actually have this vast quantity of guns that 2A proponents like to pretend it does.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'well then what i see about the UK is a lie?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'thats a pretty frail argument, d.  turns out, _noone_ gives a shit about mental health, on either side of the gun debate.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'the problem is the combination of easy access and American gun culture'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'I only see one party that's on a honest to god "book witch hunt" in 2022 b/c they fear their kid will become gay'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'you mean the media is not being truthful?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Make it Reyn: 'how many people have died in mass stabbings in the UK'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'well are we talking lamestream or internet?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'Private citizens don't have huge stockpiles of guns in Switzerland like they do here. There's a lot of guns in Switzerland, but it's mostly single shot rifles and the majority of the semi automatic weapons are not privately owned.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'I never heard of a mass stabbing anywhere'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'I personally think the push back against liberalism is a good thing'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'I'm sure mass stabbings have happened are some point, but they aren't some kind of big epidemic issue.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'can you define liberalism please'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'Mass shootings on the other hand, are a daily issue in the United States. They aren't anywhere else in the world.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'oh ok, yeah mass stabbings, with few fatalities, i find that title to be misleading then'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'bet you cry because roe vs wade got over turned too'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'more likely to get aborted than you are to get shot'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'that is 100% false'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'i can prove it WITH MATHS'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'depends on which news reports you pay attention to, d.  much like the 'gun violence' phenomenon, its more about what you hear than what happens.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'Oh. Got it, Khonshu is another attention seeking troll. '
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'not if you look at the number of abortions'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'really hard to kill many people with knives'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'The chance of me being aborted is literally 0'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'congrats you survived pregnancy'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): SNEAKER Mushambo struts proudly.
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'i am more concerned about mental health than disarming gun owners'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'its not that big an accomplishment, k.  have you met many survivors?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec is agreeing with that Khonshu person again...
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'most of which are law abiding citizens'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'most criminals use guns'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'it is one, among many, of the root causes of violence (of all forms) - but the subject is icky, so no politician is willing to devote time, money, or effort to dealing with it :/'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'most murders are committed by habitual criminals.  thats what gangs do when they arent dealing drugs.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'neither side makes sense'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'thats because they are in it for the money'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'neither side has, as its real goal, helping people or saving lives.  those are just proxy talking points.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'both sides are influenced by lobbyists'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'none of which care about anything outside corporate interests'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'not all of them, k.  some of them are after political power, or social influence, or just like to tell others how to live their lives...'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'corporations are people too'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i have met people - thats not a positive trait, m.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'corporations are not people'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'courts disagree, k.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'thats just a nice way of giving them benefits afforded to actual people'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'none of the draw backs'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'can you execute corporations in some states then?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'i wish'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'it can be done - its not something you see happen very often.  new york is, last i heard, still trying just that with nra.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'i mean mushambo has some pretty moot points tbh'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'when was the last time an advisor answered a noobs question before anyone else without the role?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Khonshu is shaming SNEAKER Mushambo in public and a large crowd has gathered to watch.
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'B/c I pointed out that I have better odds of being shot than aborted?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'right now, I am answering you'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'im not a noob but nice try'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'only immune to legal abortion, m.  the other kind is still totally on the table.  its just somehwat less likely, since your mom would be out of pocket for the whole cost.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'you're not T9, therefore you're a noob'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'its up to the states'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'You probably should note your complaint about me to imms though Khonshu, they probably would like to be made aware'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'why would i do that?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'You seem troubled about my time debating and not doing what you consider to be my job'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'being from New York and and all that, snitching isn't in my nature'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'but all you have is an outsiders perspective'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'that's odd, because most new yorkers i know are more than happy "to snitch" but wouldn't even think of calling someone out on the streets publicly in an attempt to "shame them"'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'I bet you have never experienced abortion first hand as a potential father'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'you have never seen a mass shooting first hand'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'So you've witnessed both personally and therefore feel your opinion is more valid than mine'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'Well fortunately the mother decided against it. im a man so not much of a say there'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'and yes I have and yes i do believe witnessing a mass shooting personally was very enlightening'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'it certainly did not match the media description of it'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Punkgirl: 'but if she'd have had the baby, you'd certainly be required to pay that child support buddy. '
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i am curious, what did you learn from the experience?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'pretty nerve wracking'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'mostly because the cops pretty much went at a snails pace and waiting for the shooting to stop'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'did that encourage you way to rely on police as an unarmed person'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'er to rely'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'mmm.  yeah, thats what cops are trained to do.  pull back, prevent new folks from entering, and wait for backup.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'Cops are not legally obligated to actually do anything in their job description'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'hmm this isnt giving me the warm and fuzzies'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'not true! they are subject to pretty harsh disciplinary action if they dont bring in enough revenue for their layer of government.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'i do not feel the same way towards cops that people around here do though'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'no they are not legally obligated and do not know why you think they are'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i would say 'dont care what you think', but yeah, pretty much.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'supreme court ruling'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'https://prospect.org/justice/police-have-no-duty-to-protect-the-public/'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'old news.  courts, including scotus, have held that opinion for a very long time now.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'they probably will not get in trouble either'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'serpico much?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'there is no probably about it.  'qualified immunity' is the new noble class.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'they have to lean on someones neck for 20 minutes on camera to get in trouble'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'nah, even then its pretty unusual.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'off camera and civil rights violations are normally how they do it'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'i would love to see more legal gun owners'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'especially minorities'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Khonshu.
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'you know they cant use them to protect themselves from police right?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'that is almost completely true, e.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'Black Panther Party?'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'not the "new black panther party" either'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'that should be taught in every history class'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i am not particularly worried about political activists being armed.  but then, im not a racially oppressive government, so ... theres that.'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'this is what mushambo sees when he watches TV :-)'
T3/r7/2022-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'https://youtu.be/_ZBBcs3g9sY'
T3/r7/2022-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'a chick that gets pregnant on purpose should have the baby.'
T3/r7/2022-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'wanna debate?'
T3/r7/2022-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SNEAKER Mushambo: 'will it matter?'
T3/r7/2022-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'every debate matters'
T3/r7/2022-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'a debate is like a butterfly'
T3/r7/2022-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pure WhiteTiger: 'xbox vs playstion: Go'
T3/r7/2022-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'Jaguar!'
T3/r7/2022-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'i don't like games with pictures'
T3/r7/2022-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pure WhiteTiger: 'i was hoping ppl would see the irony of that on this'
T3/r7/2022-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pure WhiteTiger: 'what came first, the chicken or the egg?'
T3/r7/2022-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'time to ban organic fruits and vegetables'
T3/r7/2022-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'the number of recalls and people getting seriously ill is becoming outrageous'
T3/r7/2022-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'obvious solutions is obvious - 2600 ftw.'
T3/r7/2022-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'eggs predate chickens - qed.'
T3/r7/2022-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'its not the organic foods that are the problem, its the 'fertilizer' they are still coated in.  clean that shit off, problem solved.'
T3/r7/2022-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'forget Ukraine and mass shootings'
T3/r7/2022-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Khonshu: 'they are taking away our right to legally kill babies!'
T3/r7/2022-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Khonshu laughs diabolically...Muhahahaha!
T3/r7/2022-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'finally, just as safe in the womb as the classroom'
T3/r7/2022-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'all life is precious, unless it steps on my property'
T3/r7/2022-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Anybody watching today's 1/6 hearing?'
T3/r7/2022-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'no but i'm curious what it's about'
T3/r7/2022-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'will be at lunch'
T3/r7/2022-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'lunch is now, cst gang wya'
T3/r7/2022-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'It's about the riot/insurrection at the US Capitol on 1/6 and especially how much and how involved Trump was in it.'
T3/r7/2022-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'nod i saw some headline about new evidence prompting today's hearing'
T3/r7/2022-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'every hearing has had new evidence, but im not sure what the framing of this specific one is'
T3/r7/2022-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'an importante aide to the White House chief of staff is testifying now.'
T3/r7/2022-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'last one for instance was around the role the AG's played'
T3/r7/2022-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'the question at the center of the entire hearings is simply: Did Donald Trump attempt to overthrow the gov't of the United States? That's the nut of it.'
T3/r7/2022-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'he certainly encouraged it, and failed to act to stop it when he should have'
T3/r7/2022-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'is it really a question? I understood it more of 'how' it was attempted'
T3/r7/2022-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'No, it's still a question. I think the answer is becoming more and more obvious, but the committee doesn't have the latitude of opinion that, say, you and I have.'
T3/r7/2022-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'they are just laying out the evidence in the hopes the DoJ will pick it up and follow through'
T3/r7/2022-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'bah.  you want to know who failed to act to stop it? literally every person who lived, worked, or visited dc that day.'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'would you get this kind permanent modification: whenever you say what you actually mean, your eyes glow blue. whenever you tell what you feel, your eyes glow red'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Love & Wars: 'no'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'definitely not *eyes glow purple*'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Love & Wars: 'i would not want a built in lie detector in my eyes'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pure WhiteTiger: '" does this dress make me look fat? " " No hunny, your beautiful " (eyes dont glow)'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Love & Wars nods at Pure WhiteTiger.
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'hm'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but when you do think something very cool and all that, wouldn't you want to.. give the glow?'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: '..sho9w the glow'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'damn i should sell the line to cocacola'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pure WhiteTiger: '#showtheglow'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'oh of course'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think you're assuming there's a definitive line between what you believe and don't believe, and what you feel and don't feel'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but that's not true, and the grey area moves around all the time for many reasons'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'assuming is even too weak word '
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill peers into Fuel's red eyes
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the human hipocampus is the youngest blob of tissue. also the weakest. yet it gets most of the attention'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Love & Wars: 'now if my eyes would glow red right before I was about to attack someone that would be kinda cool. fear factor and all that'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill bonks Fuel on the hippocampus
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'to help it out, we should give it the devices. led lights'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'in my experience, Wars, I wouldn't have the time to notice before I woke up in the morgue'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Love & Wars snickers with Cilmarill about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'see. often we tell to ourselves shit thatd is bonkers.'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'thats the hip..p..ocampus thankyouverymuch'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'it is so unreliable'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'untuned'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but then you have to say, well that's because self-delusion is very useful'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'hm'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i honesly believe that self delusion is the worst thing that happens. all the time.'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'out ability to decieve other people, and outselves, is important'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'd just say that if you're doing on purpose, then yeah, that's not nice, or at least it's morally questionable'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'or instead of saying untrue shit, people just be quiet?'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but then, Santa isn't real, right?'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'no santa'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I wonder if my teachers eyes would be glowing blue in all the assemblies we had where they were telling me about the things that god does'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'truth is subjective anyway, probably'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well precisely'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but that'd be cool'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'someone telling me the earth is flat, or that if I'm naughty I'm going to hell, and their eyes glowing at me red and blue'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'bascially, it's not a lie detector, it's a person-you-should-stay-away-from detector'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'yeah. then youd know if he is a crazy person or a funny troll'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think people's eyes should glow yellow if they actually don't give a shit about you'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'or maybe their hippocampus should explode out of their head if they were purposefully being nasty'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'hm.'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'are you sacastic towards me or is it my imagination?'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i am a bit drunk'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'no, not at all'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'oh cool.'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Pure WhiteTiger 's eyes glow yellow.
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'm just saying it in a stupid way, sorry'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'read your lines back... it's readable as sarcastic :)'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but I'm serious, truth and feelings are all confusing and subjective, but being nice or not being nice is a thing'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'also subjective, tho.'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yes I know, I'm sorry, I talk like that :) but I'm really not'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'right, but so, if a person, in themselves, is being not nice to someone, then that's subjective. So their eyes glow yellow. It's not that I think you're not being nice to me, it's that you're actively trying to be nasty'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'mmm.'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'one time, when i had 2 dogs, i tested being respectful towards them. it was different... im pretty sure'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'if I said something comforting you you that I didn't quite believe, in order to be nice, I wouldn't want my eyes glowing blue :)'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and certainly vice versa :)'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'gotta agree on that, at least - a world in which the comforting deceptions are laid bare is a hellish one.  those who speak the truth and nothing but the truth, outside of very narrow circumstances, are not saints - they are monsters.'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I love that turn of phrase, comforting deceptions :) it has my favoirte and one of my least favourite words, but it says so much :)))'
T3/r7/2022-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'wordsmith, i.'
T3/r7/2022-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'when you watch something significant going on without ANY way to make any difference.. why feeling the tension? its absurd'
T3/r7/2022-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'anyone buy a front load washer recently and have good luck? seeing a ton of poor reviews'
T3/r7/2022-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pure WhiteTiger: 'i like the top loaders personally. Don't need something go wrong mid cycle then getting a floor full of suds'
T3/r7/2022-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'front loaders just have more room and supposedly wash better..'
T3/r7/2022-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pure WhiteTiger: 'oh i have no idea about any of that'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'police in Akron, Ohio, shot an unarmed black guy 60 times'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Quiescence: 'i bet there is more to the story'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Quiescence: 'got any bodycam footage?'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'https://uk.yahoo.com/news/ohio-police-shot-unarmed-jayland-181739930.html '
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'he was in a car chase, shot out of the driver side window at the police. got out on foot and was shot down'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'but didn't have a gun on him while running.. hence the "unarmed man"'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Quiescence: 'doesnt sound unarmed lol'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'they cant know that though'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Quiescence: 'oh gotcha'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Firestone: 'the minute you flee to elude you automatically make it felony escape, which changes the rules of engagement extensively'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'let alone flee while shooting out the window at police..'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Quiescence: 'you instantly put everyone around you at risk, so you must be stopped'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Firestone: 'was it a high speed chase? did he make threatening movements?'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Firestone: 'what isn't being included in the divisive narrative?'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: 'I dunno, is shooting out of your window threatening?'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dixon: '...'
T3/r7/2022-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Quiescence: 'only if your black, white people are allowed to do it all the time /s'
T3/r7/2022-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'So, for anyone listening: Children of the Corn based on people dying in a field of Corn, Field of Dreams based on destroying a field of corn so spirits will show up to play. Connection? Possibly the same Field?'
T3/r7/2022-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'Boris Johnson is gonna resign'
T3/r7/2022-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'not too soon'
T3/r7/2022-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'Can You imagine arguing with a dragon on wether or not You need to spend money on things? :p'
T3/r7/2022-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'And at that point, it becomes arguing and not debating.'
T3/r7/2022-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'I'm really, incredibly bored. Like more bored than that time Baba turned me *into* a board...'
T3/r7/2022-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'You must be an alt. Nobody with 49 hours has any right to be bored here.'
T3/r7/2022-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'Waiting.'
T3/r7/2022-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'I got 2 quest items, now I'mma get a proper DB and level if it fits.'
T3/r7/2022-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Waiting for what?'
T3/r7/2022-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'tp upon cp complete *or* daily bonus trains from DB. Had to get HoTS and wings first though'
T3/r7/2022-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'I've gotten 3 tp from db and 2 from questing so far'
T3/r7/2022-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'Did You know that the Yatjua (predators) are actually indeed humans or other races that once had a face-hugger attached to their face but it was surgically removed, hence why they have no lips to smile with?'
T3/r7/2022-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'The four things sticking out of their cheeks are actually the legs that the face-huggers dig into the flesh to prevent the individual from removing it by grabbing and pulling '
T3/r7/2022-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'pretty sure they are just penis monsters'
T3/r7/2022-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droki: 'made by a gross artist. but the retconned story sounds nice too'
T3/r7/2022-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'source?'
T3/r7/2022-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'The Yatjua don't see species, They hate the Xenomorph's because They once were something that had lips and resembled their previous species.'
T3/r7/2022-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'but after being injected with enough of their venom kt warps the previous body into something different. It's also why there's such a size difference between the afflicted.'
T3/r7/2022-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'it warps their body*'
T3/r7/2022-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'The first of the Yatjua were the ones with the most messed up faces because the surgery was done with conventional tools like a regular scalpel.'
T3/r7/2022-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'is this sci-fi channel?'
T3/r7/2022-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Odorf: 'Later the people's faces often have burns around where their lips are specifically because someone invented the closest thing to a light-saber to date, also where Mileena in Mortal Kombat got her really messed up face after the Xenomorph's were in Mortal Kombat.'
T3/r7/2022-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'male British MP was wearing a black leather miniskirt and high heels (in a car crash)'
T3/r7/2022-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'https://uk.news.yahoo.com/tory-mp-wearing-leather-mini-102820362.html '
T3/r7/2022-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'i can imagine that guy in a miniskirt'
T3/r7/2022-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Classic Vost chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2022-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 81.tallpal Logrom: 'I'll admit I found the article amusing at first, but they definitely could have mentioned earlier on in the article that the MP already came out as transgender.  That kind of changes things :P'
T3/r7/2022-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'does it really? cant wear a mini skirt unless youre transgender?'
T3/r7/2022-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 81.tallpal Logrom: 'It's not as amusing to contemplate conservative MPs wearing miniskirts if we know they already came out as trans :P'
T3/r7/2022-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: '2 in 1 hair care or separate shampoo and conditioner?'
T3/r7/2022-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'just water'
T3/r7/2022-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: '5-in-1 + clean toilet/bathroom/carpet/car...'
T3/r7/2022-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'https://uk.news.yahoo.com/met-office-issues-first-ever-095736439.html '
T3/r7/2022-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'UK has issued the first ever "extreme heat warning" '
T3/r7/2022-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'temperature approaching 40 C'
T3/r7/2022-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'erks!!!'
T3/r7/2022-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'maybe now is the time to buy that fan'
T3/r7/2022-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'd seen that it was supposed to be hot, but 40c is crazy'
T3/r7/2022-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): 81.tallpal Logrom pictures Cilmarill's (toe) hair streaming in said fan
T3/r7/2022-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): 81.tallpal Logrom pours Cilmarill a drink.  So cool and refreshing! ;)
T3/r7/2022-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'so far I've been ok inside with the windows open'
T3/r7/2022-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but 40 degrees is actually dangerous'
T3/r7/2022-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 81.tallpal Logrom: 'How's the humidity where you are Cil?'
T3/r7/2022-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'dunno - seems fine tbh? I mean the weather's nice, you can bask in the sun, and cool off in the sahde'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'policeman in Rochester, New York, handcuffed an EMT for bumping ambulance door into police car door at a hospital'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'https://www.whec.com/rochester-new-york-news/exclusive-rpd-investigator-on-desk-duty-following-dispute-with-emt-in-ambulance-bay/6526199/?cat=565 '
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'are you kidding...?'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'ffs'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'there is video footage in the link'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'it looks like a white policeman and a black EMT...'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'or maybe hispanic EMT'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'gah I hate it when people think the law is more important than common sense and doing the right thing'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'You cannot judge me, I am Justice itself!'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'thats sad'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'there is a problem with police culture in the USA'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'filled with macho guys who love guns'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I mean that is inevitable'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: '"hey, I've got a gun AND a badge" swagger'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and I've never seen a film with a policeman protagonist who solves things with diplomacy, understnading, and administration '
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'there is a problem with culture in the USA*'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I don't think it's just the US. And I do think you have to be capable of being tough if you're a member of the police force, in any country. so it's just a paradox - it'd be nice to have people who can be tough when they need to be, and understanding when not, but it's just not realistic to expect it to be common'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'this sort of abuse of power doesn't happen in the UK'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'maybe because police aren't given guns, so British police service doesn't attract trigger-happy gun nutes'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'nuts *'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well the British police has classically always been a civilian police force. The old fashioned imagine I have is of police being asked for help, even about little things like directions and things'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and them always wanting to help'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I suppose my impression of US police is that they're more enforcement oriented'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but there's arseholes in every profession, in any country'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'that's one way of putting it'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I worked in a chocolate factory over summer once, and my boss was an absolute areshole. I imagine if she had handcuffs she would have loved using them. So I think you're right about the issueing of weapons'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'whats better? 1800 hr and 1900 dr...or 1700 hr and 2k dr'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Can't De Cide: 'i would go with the higher dr personaly.'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'isn't hr capped at 1.2K?'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'no'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i just invented a new perpetum mobile machine'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'hm. you put a tube in the water'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and like that, you lost me.  tube doesnt go there.'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'goes like 10m under'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'so. you drop a balloon into the tube.'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'and it gets released into the water. and it goes up.'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'profit'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'pretty sure thats how three mile island went down.'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'ok. but where is the flaw in this design?'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'so many more fun things to do with a tube and a balloon.  it is, therefore, politically infeasible.'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'balloons!'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the balloon drops because gravity. the balloon gets released and goes up because of pressure. where is the flaw'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'because of bouancy'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'it takes more energy to open/close the water-exclusion flap at the bottom of the tube than the balloon generates on its way up.'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'unless you are in good with maxwell's daemon, thats where you get stuck.'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'hm'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'what if the balloon would be rigid'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'don't really see how you're profiting in energy'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'wouldn change shape'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'that would make it more like a cannon, so now you are just hunting dolphins.'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'when 2 very elementary particles collide head to head. and just stop. what happens to that energy?\'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well as I understnad it, it depends on how elementary'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'very'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'most basic. perfect'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I think we can't accelerate the most fundamental particles, since they don't exist long enough'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i love physics so much but have no brains for it.'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'me too - kind of sure it was a quote of Einstein, "if you think you understand quantum physics, you don't" or someone or other.. :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'hmm forgot i turned this channel on...'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'all way beyond me, it's like "shut up and calculate"'
T3/r7/2022-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'they dont.'
T3/r7/2022-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'British ppl can only enjoy nice, summer weather when they'd pay for it with cash (in foreign countries). True/False? :D '
T3/r7/2022-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fhantom: 'true'
T3/r7/2022-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fhantom: '*looks the other way*'
T3/r7/2022-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fhantom: 'doesn't it rain 9 months out of the year out there over the pond?'
T3/r7/2022-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'for last 3 days I can only hear complains that is too hot, while the same ppl few weeks ago were telling me how nice was in Dubai/Portugal/Tenerife etc. :P'
T3/r7/2022-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fhantom: 'that's cause they used to rain'
T3/r7/2022-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'not nie 9, mroe like 8'
T3/r7/2022-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fhantom: 'the heat wave lasted like 2 years here on the west coast of america'
T3/r7/2022-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fhantom: 'it's heading east'
T3/r7/2022-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fhantom: 'had like 80 degree mornings 110 degree afternoon to evening'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Anyone else have the sense that movies (as narrative form) are on their way out? Seems like episodic TV is more aligned to folks' schedules and attention levels'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'no'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Really? I used to do a movie a day, now I do maybe once per week'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'TV series just easier on the noggin at the end of the day, once you settle on something, dont have to choose what to watch next'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'you're running out of good new movies'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'good tv shows are better than movies, its true'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'That is true..I've seen at least 30 mins of about 7K movies?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Ehh I think a great movie is still better in my mind, but I have problems sitting through in one sitting'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'its about the amount of time they have to develop narrative and characters'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'id argue movies have gotten a lot longer nowadays and more people are ok with it'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'look at dune, the marvel movies, etc'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'yeah these runtimes...io remember when a 2.5+ hour movie meant Oscar quality (i.e., "Deer Hunter" or Godfather)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'its just historically you cant charge 20 bucks to go watch a tv series'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'I'm using yall as a focus group for work project btw :) SO ... what about awards shows? Do things like Oscars, Emmys, etc. carry any weight still ?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'its all ego stroking and bragging rights'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'so economics made movies better, but thats changing with streaming'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Well I could argue economics made movies better :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'i mean relative to tv shows, obvs economics tends toward cheaply made shit too'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Does being an "Oscar" nominated/winning film carry any weight in watching criteria? my sense is, definitely less than 15 years ago?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'for my lifestyle films are often better - tv series tend to need more attention, and these days I'm doing something else while 'watching''
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'interesting CIlm..wouldve thought tv more conducive to multi-tasking'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'i watch shows when i dont want to do anything else, including think'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'assuming 'equal quality' personally much prefer a well-done movie...'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well depends on what it is. Like the sunny in philadelphia, or trailer park boys, can float by ok, but many tv series get really involved because of the long format. Films are always, necessarily, a bit lighter, because they need to get in and out more quickly'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'heh yeah I usually wind down end of night with something low involvement like TPB or 30 rock'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'course we're also of the older generation lol...i just highly doubt yutes care if something wins Best Picture'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'well maybe Best Picture still carries weight..'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'i mean poorly made shit still annoys me enough to switch, even if i dont want to think, ill just be thinking about how shit it is'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'unless its a nick cage movie, then thats the point of the film'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i feel there's more uncertainty in payoff (of time investment) with movies...assuming watchsomething for least 20 minutes before giving up, thats like 15-20% of the total content'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it'll probably make me sound bad, but actually one of the main things I notice when I'm browsing for a film is the year. Anything below 2010 I get a bit sus, anything below 2000 I basically refuse on the spot :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): MAMBO! Mushambo, sitting in the peanut gallery, takes aim and nails Cilmarill in the face!
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Dr. Evl bonks Cilmarill on the head for being such an UTTER moron.
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'lame'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'you said the quiet part loud Cilm'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'the 80s and 90s had insanely good movies. most of the best, really'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'except the batman movies'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'good movies were up to year 2005... same with games and everything else :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well at least I was right about the first part of my statement :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'course I say that, while I have "Deer Hunter" unwatched b/c i dunno if it's going ot be one of those older movies that didn't age well'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'all the new tv shows have ppl wearing masks, imgaine how strange that would be in 1998'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'I think the only Marvel movie I've seen has been Logan'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'that was a half terrible film'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I like superhero films, fantasy, and all that though. It's like, sod it just go for it. What I don't like much are films which think they're portraying real life but actually are just the usual everyone's gorgeous hollywood crap'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'Cil watch fight club'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'you do not talk about fight club ;)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'seen it, yeah, was good'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'Cil, I fully agree with you. That's why I watch porn as it portrays real life... :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'that was 90s right?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'actually I watched it off the back of the you do not talk about fight club meme :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'why does the US vs Euro use commas and periods basically exactly the opposite way when writing numbers'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'because the US does things right ?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'what the US does like 100.000 for one hundred thousand?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'no silly, its 100,000 '
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well of course it is'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'so how are we doing it the opposite?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'i dunno who is right but it's confusing af'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'EU does it with periods, as does most of world i think'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'definitely not true'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'OR just say 100K , problem solved'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'dont you guys use commas to denote partial dollars'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'a full stop in number is a decimal point, and only that'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'did i make all this up'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think it might have been a fever dream :( *tickles*'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'no, in slovenia they use periods to denote thousands and commas for cents'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'ok i'm not totally insane at least'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oh well the Slovenians are crazy'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'my whole family is from there cil'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'although i've had no experience with slovenians and i've definitely seen it this way, so there are other places'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I mean not all of them? ;)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but using commas for decimal place is a bit wild :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'and germans seperate at the ten thousand, not thousand'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's a bit like the date thing - I've no idea why putting the month number before the day number makes any sense'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean actually it should year first, then month, then day'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'ok I'm exposing myself now as a pedant, when obviously I'm really a playful ninja'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'when the AI becomes conscious. self aware. but controlled by you. would you allow it to have romantic relations with humans?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'first promise you're a human'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) No one but Hadrian: 'I would expect it'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'and then what?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'ai systems are a looooooooonnnngggg way from being actually intelligent, let alone self aware. But the answer is yes'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'you would allow it?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but such behaviour has brought down many.. many .. ghm. many things'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) No one but Hadrian: 'Then I would make history as the first robot pimp.  New laws would need to be made because of me.'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well it wouldn't be up to me, it'd be up to the 2 self aware beings in the relationship'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'im sorry i have to bounce this one. way too insane'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think people just have a hollywood film idea of what AI actually is'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'two AIs would finish very fast'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'a more interesting question might be - would a computer ever actually enjoy having sex?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'hm.'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'according the Electric Dreams film I watched.from 1984..  yes.. computers would enjoy having sex... '
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'wait i saw this movie...weird science'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'no you watched a good movie torkin'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'Saturn's Children '
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but is it naturally occuring or is it part of the program? so is that enjoyment? is it even self awareness'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the 1st sex scene is rather disturbing'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'computers don't need to procreate. The didn't evolve'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'but hmm was Lisa an AI? '
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'in weird science'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I don't know who that is - it's a film ahh ok'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'ok well after googling, I think that prooves my theory about hollywood ideas about what AI is :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'StarGate SG-1 series had self replicating machines named replicators... I don't know if they enjoyed the act of replication though. '
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well the point is that we have to be driven to it, against almost anything else'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'yes.'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I feel like if I was just a computer program I could do it at will'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'can you program will?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'honestly I'm not sure will can actually exist in a program'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think AI should be renamed SI - Synthetic Intelligence'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean I agree with hollywood in as much as I don't think intelligence depends upon love and mutual care. So that's scary. '
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'what's the difference between "artificial" and "synthetic" ?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'artificial implies that it's actually intelligent. Synthetic tells you that it's just mimicry, or something, that with no actual intelligence, can reproduce some small part of what an intelligent being can do'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'er, no'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well go further - PI Pretend Intelligence'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'a Chinese room'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'ok that was, and still is, quite a serious google rabbit hole'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'just reaching a little here, but I think consciousness, and life, is intrinsically liked to the awareness of self, and the need to preserve one's self, both in mind and embodied form. Easy to say as a human. I just think maybe it's impossible as a human to imagine what it would be like to be a self aware computer program. I suspect thought that they'd enjoy sexy less that us ;)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'we could be self aware computer programs'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'isnt that the coding in genetics?'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I suppose, but then why has my ankle been so flippin painful for the past 2 weeks'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'it's impossible to disprove'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'genetics is not artificial'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'i.e. no intelligence required to make genes'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'thats debatable'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think if I was an intelligent machine I'd have just turned down the temperature over these past couple of days'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and have no explanation for why I enjoyed the pasta I made a little earlier today'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'was it good? '
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oooooohhh yeah'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'was there lots of cheese'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'actually no, just finished it with parmisan - was a spciy tomato sauce, fresh tagliatlle'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'yomm'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'If the future of intelligent machines don't like that stuff, I'm just saying, we have to killemall ;)'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i think drunk and drugged people deserve a discount.'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'or a bonus'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: '=h'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'off'
T3/r7/2022-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill bonks MAMBO! Mushambo on the head for being such an UTTER moron.
T3/r7/2022-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'So only 5M Americans (apparently) said they are Very/Completely Willing to kill a person in the next few years to advance their "political objective"'
T3/r7/2022-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'what do you mean only'
T3/r7/2022-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'the rest just wont admit it, heh'
T3/r7/2022-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'There are still 15M American's that think political violence is justified to return Trump to presidency THIS YEAR'
T3/r7/2022-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'to be fair, im in favor of political violence regardless of other folks' motivations.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'is killing happy animals more cruel than miserable ones'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'would it be more cruel to kill an animal. for food. when you make it happy?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 1337 H4x0r Fiendish: 'to a person where the animal's QOL matters before slaughter, the killing isn't the part that matters'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'you're thinking too out of the box'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 1337 H4x0r Fiendish: 'if you don't view the killing as cruel, then no it's not more cruel to kill a happy animal'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'what if the farmer grows a happy cow. then makes it's life miserable and the cow is glad it ends'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'killing is cruel.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'if life is inherently cruel, does it matter?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'thats axiomatic'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 1337 H4x0r Fiendish: 'says who'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'UN'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'and WHO'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 1337 H4x0r Fiendish: 'I don't think the UN and WHO have any position on the cruelty of killing itself. In fact, killing is often the least cruel thing that can be done.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'often - what does that even mean?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'killing a happy cow is more cruel than killing a miserable one'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 1337 H4x0r Fiendish: 'making a cow miserable in the first place is cruel. killing the cow is just an end.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I don't think it is'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean, I agree with Fiendish, just bad timing'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'wanting something to feel bad, or not doing something to make a thing feel good, when you have the chance, is the start of cruelty. The end of cruelty is enjoying the process'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'what have you done today Cil to make the world better / what chances you had?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'better is subjective'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'everything is subjective'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm I had a dodge face off with a man, and we smiled afterwards?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I thanked a bus driver and if he didn't know, I meant it'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'when the farmer goes to the cow-house. would it be less cruel of him to pick the cows for slaughter considering their depression levels instead perkiness?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'woah thats not allowed Cil!'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'cows have therapists?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the rapists'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'yes... SNL went thu my head ever so briefly.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well like Fiendish said - the cow is going to be killed, and eaten. It hardly makes a difference. If the farmer had done all they could to make the cow's life better, and so we assume happier, than that's less cruel. Choosing to kill sad or happy cows just doesn't make any sense'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i miss chris farley'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'by that logic, we should all be trying to make animals that we eat as happy as possible, and then not killing them. Which isn't farming'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'I'd be more concerned about which cow would be more tasty... the happy one or the depressed one.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but the happy cow wants to live!'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and equally, what you're saying equates to making animal's lives horrible on purpose, so that we can feel that we're less cruel when we put them out of their misery'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 1337 H4x0r Fiendish: 'wanting to live is irrelevant to whether something experiences suffering after it dies (it doesn't)'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'the happy ones could be delusional'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Pump the Fuel :)
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'one could argue you're putting a delusinal cow out of its misery.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 1337 H4x0r Fiendish: 'out of misery is irrelevant to whether something experiences relief after it dies (it doesn't)'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'like, should we just treat everything, and everyone, like shit, so that when they die it's a relief? doesn't make any sense'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the happy cows might be faking it when they figure out the new system'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'are you making the premise that depressed cows want to die?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'no, just that it'b be less cruel to kill them'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'is lion more cruel killing happy deer than miserable one?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I really don't see how it's less cruel to kill anything based it's happiness levels'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'cruelty is ultimately about a person enjoying being bad to something'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'perhaps happy cows enjoy going to bovine U, more than depressed cows.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'someone truely cruel would keep something alive in order to make it's life a misery'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'what about serial killers who did not enjoy murdering others, they weren't cruel?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'agreed cilmarill, A juicy steak is always good.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'i only eat delusional meat'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'that's a different level, that's like unadurated power or pure psychosis - torturing some is cruel, simply murdering them for your own benefit is out of control evil. I'm not saying they don't mix, but'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'mmm'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'which is less cruel - 1. someone ejoying the misery and killing it then 2. someone enjoyis the happiness and killing it?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'you grow cows, you're going to kill them. People are going to eat them. Give them a good life. Don't make them want to die so that when you do kill them they're happier about it'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: '2, for sure'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'ok. 2 is less cruel. but the logic fails'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm, people eat animals'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'm not denying how weird it is, when you look at it, as a human, instead of like an eagle or a lion. I mean milk is so weird really - we force cows to think they're still feeding their children just so we can have their milk, right?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'and then you have chicken eggs.....'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yeah, same sort of thing - we convince the animals they're reproducing, and actually we're just eating all of their potential children'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Classic Vost goes 'Nom nom nom' to Cilmarill.  Now you're hungry too.
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but, I do really love eggs, and I do love cheese.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'just a egg mcmuffin maker... mmmmm'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'er got'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I have an egg ring, it blew my mind :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'is that a sex toy?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill pokes Vost gentle hard with an English muffin
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'has it been near your egg ring/'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'just curious... who is certified here?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 1337 H4x0r Fiendish: 'certified or certifiable?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'yes that one.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: ''or' questions answered with yes...'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'you can be self-proclaimed.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'or by others here.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'You didn't mention anything about mad cows.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'you know it's funny (well I suppose not very), but I do tutoring for younger children, and I've been doing a series of classes about writing an essay "should we go vegan"'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'I used to date a mad cow'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'obviously you weren't compelled Clim'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'is secretly pleased at this more random version of Vost :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Classic Vost walks around in the room, looking very confused.
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'ost did you put it out its misery?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'no but it is a thing though. The cruelty, the practicality, the environmental cost'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'I broke up with her'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'would you eat synthetic?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'did you study halal'ing a cow?'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the problem with veganism is that too many people end up with psychic super-powers.  also, malnutrition.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fhantom: 'i'm listening'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'heh, first mistake right there.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'B12'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'well i liked their music, but it was a darn shame when their producer offed himself.  really put the band into a downward spiral.  well, not so much a spiral as a single straight fall ... but yeah.'
T3/r7/2022-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'The cult is touring...'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'bit random but this kind of thing is a large part of what we think about Americans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyGq6cjcc3Q'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'insert wedontthinkaboutyouatall.gif'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'jk'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yeah :) I know, I shouldn't watch these things, I get so infuriated with people who lie and know they're doing it'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'i'm kidding, i'm not watching a 22 minute video. "congrats though, or i'm sorry that happened to you"'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'nahh I know. It's Alex Jones. Basically he's like one of those awful preachers who are just there to convince people to give them money. I know it was a stupid post, I'm just seething here right now :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'haha im just giving you a hard time'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'if you wanna find something scarier, google the things that alex jones has been right about'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I find it hard to believe that he's ever been right about anything unless by pure accident'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'grin you'd be surprised'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'naah, he's a despicable person'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'well that can still be true'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'disgusting and hateful'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'you can be a bad person and still right'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well yeah by accident'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'that's weird logic'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but if you're right purely by coincidence, rather that because you're trying to work it out, then you're just a lucky idiot. He's not a lucky idiot, he's a motivated confuser and a disgusting charlaton'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'Why do you think these two things both can't be true: (i) you are a bad person and (ii) your argument/point can be correct on certain topics'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'have you ever heard of the phrase, ad hominem'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'no, I'm saying they can certainly coincide'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but I mean, unless you're doing it because you're genuinely trying to find the truth, rather than just trolling or trying to take from other people, then it is of no value'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'well i hope we can all rely on you to be the arbiter of that'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I much prefer a person who's trying to find the truth but gets it wrong to a person who doesn't care about the truth and in the process of trying to benefit themselves stumbles upon truth'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'bah I'm nothing, I just really hate to see people manipulate other people for their own gains'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'Well I hope you are ready for disappointment my friend.'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oh well it comes thick and fast, I'm naive but not quite so much that I'm not unsure if that's the right spelling of the word ;)'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I just hate wilfull deception'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and you're right though, I'm continually astounded about people giving so little shit about other people that they do whatever they want and talk utter bullshit, in full knowledge that they're manipulating vunerable people'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'Alex Jones is the worst aspect of humanity. He's disgusting. He actively ruins people's thinking because he profits from it, but also, because he simply enjoys it. He's the lowest of the low'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill takes a big breath. yes, this is rant mode, and I apologise ;)
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it makes me sick to my stomach, it's the lowest form of pure bullying'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'who else should we hate today'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'i need a list'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'sounds like a politician'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'bah. you're right though. I don't hate him, I just get wound up at this aspect of human behaviour'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) No one but Hadrian: 'I am OK with hating Alex Jones for for forseeable future.'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I hate what he does. But in the end I just feel bad for him that he's so lost. But I mean he's richer than I'll ever be. So if that matters, he did it right'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'pretty sure he is an alcoholic and has had to file bankruptcy or is on the verge if i read correctly. don't feel too bad'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'actually no I don't feel bad for him, I think he's a disgusting fucking twat. I feel bad for the people who give him money, and listen to him holding on for something that might justify why they feel bad'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) No one but Hadrian: 'I do not beleive he is lost.  He is grifting people that listen to him.  He filed bankrupsty after hiding finances so he can try to evade paying off Sandy Hook lawsuits.'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) No one but Hadrian: 'the court transcripts are interesting to review.'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'he's definitely not, he just projects that to make people to give him money. Another reason why he's a twisted human'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'bah my head is going to explode'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think I must have typed "practice getting trolled full" at some point without realising it :)'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'stepping back, it's people like me that make it worse though, I suppose. I try to be reasonable, but like, this type of debate is so polarised that people just need to calm down and discuss, and I just get wound up. I don't mind people who aren't nice, it's fine, and actually I find it very interesting to consider the opinions of people who I consider to be not nice. And I get that's totally subjective. But I think my line in the sand is when people are deceptive, on purpose, and in particular, take some kind of pleasure or accomplishment from manipulating other people. That's when I reach for my daggers'
T3/r7/2022-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I need an alias for this, but - can someone tell me to shush now'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'at one point. very soon. when you are playing your stupid console - it will become an actual job. make real life products. for "fun". for free probably.'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'or you're controlling drones for real like in movie Toys'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'a friend of mine is s truck-driver. and when the clock tells him to stop, he parks the truck. and plays eurotruck simulator'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'which one pays more?'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'so much wasted potential'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'rl driving helps him to pay off his debt'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'If a had a work simulator, I would'nt play it'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but what if it has ray-tracing?'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'work is a simulator -- at least, it's a sad reflection on the world if it is reality'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'that would sweeten the deal.'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'and bluetooth.'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i heard work made the ape to go human'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'in Soviet Russia, truck drives you'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'whenever i see apes. gorillas. i look at them and think.. they look bored. they need a job or something'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'living in a zoo is pretty boring'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garence: 'so are lineworkers regressing to apes?'
T3/r7/2022-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'we are apes'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'what has been the main cause of TP token inflation over the last 10 years -- discuss with examples.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'after every answer, you have to add "praise the Bard clan!" or it wont count'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'mis'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'its a really common misunderstanding that inflation is about prices - but alas, not.  a rise in prices is a _response_ to inflation, not the thing itself.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the thing that gets larger, i.e. inflates is the money supply.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the chain is broken somewhere. chainmail'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'any increase in money supply that is larger than the real wealth that money represents is inflation - and with a fiat currency, like the us dollar, _any_ increase is inflation, because the money represents nothing.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'noone in the hobby will take you seriously, f, unless you spell it french-like - 'maille'.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'we need the next version of democracy'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'nah bro - democracy is terrible.  have you met people?  'nuff said.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'where votes have been graded'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'thats not a democracy, thats just rule by examiners.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'basically you have a vote on economics. but its worth shit if you've been a janitor for 30 years'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but its the only way to go'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and based on the performance ive seen out of those scan-tron machines? we are better off being governed by a cardboard silhouette of hitler.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'if you design a system around governing based upon financial success, you end up with what we have.  money buys laws, and such.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'a vote should become the currency'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'nah, too easy to counterfeit.  hell, most of the people i work with almost accidentally voted several times in the last election...'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'a vote, tied to a person, public. responsibility and all. '
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'anonymous votes are shit'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: ''rule by poll-workers.'  have you met those people? i wouldnt want them making decisions.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'it already works everywhere '
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'meh.  no way foreigners havent screwed up whatever it is theyve been doing.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'no. it works everywhere'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'literally'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'ive seen international politics on the internet.  its all crap.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'when people own a thing - there are people that have a say where the thing should go'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but never done in larger scale. countries'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'that is one form of 'ownership', sure.  'its mine, i can do what i want with it' is called ownership in fee-simple.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and if you have enough money, you can buy politicians in fee simple, and boom - democracy.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'with grades to votes, you can include it to nitpick a problem'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'with mass, never'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'rule by graders.  meh.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'like never ever until the time runs out'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'doesnt have to be human graders'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'you vote, thing went well, you get boosted to your next vote of the same kind'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'rule by programmers.  meh.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'statistics'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'rule by people who suck at math.  meh.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'some maths are emotional'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'is*'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'just what we need - governance by the emotional.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'no, math is itself has no emotion'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'your comment is big'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'see?'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'fine, ask 3x+1 how it feels'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'insignificant'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'thats a joke you might not appreciate :p'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'do you know about 3x+1?'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'about (emotional)90% of people deals with emotional math'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'this is aard, g.  everyone got the math joke.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'im not sure he does'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i dont'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'https://youtu.be/094y1Z2wpJg'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'whats the point?'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i have seen it. cant see the point'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'theres no emotion in this conjecture'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'still cant'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'cant what?'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'see the point'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'what. the. hell. are. you. saying?'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'math itself is not emotion, but you can express emotion through maths'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'seriously. '
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'cant see it'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'thats fine'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'fine how?'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'carry on'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'useless'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'im not going to argue a point to someone who wont see it'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'you dont argue at all'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i will, when i find it necessary...in this case, youre right, i dont.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'tbh. i have no clue what you wanted to do there'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'thats fine. i wouldnt expect you to see a correlation or causation'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'and the explanation?'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'pretty please?'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i cant explain your misunderstandings, i dont have that data'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'you dont have one'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'explanation. i mena'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'so. provide it. or admit youre full of shit'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'youre right, i have nothing to go on. other than you said maths has emotion...my argument...which you claimed wasnt an argument...was that math itself doesnt have emotion; it is subject to emotion and interpretation...and youve proved my argument. thank you.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'beautiful'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'are we done here? i need to go get high.'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'stupid'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'what is?'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i asked you for explation. you typed 200 letters to wiggle out and make me look dumb. '
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'this is why the debate channel was removed in the first place, lets all calm down and be happy'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i believe this was exactly why this channel was created'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'no one is heated'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) [DEMON] Khadaji: 'theres a difference between a debate whats going on right now'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: '3x+1 joke. '
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'somehow it's connected to the original topic. that is still kinda vague'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'not kinda. very vague'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'chalk it up how you want, im gonna smoke some dank'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'pff'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'useless'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'they say denial is the first step of recovery'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'Gaury, i'm sorry for being personal right now. I almost never do it. learn how to read'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'expressing yourself is healthy, keep going'
T3/r7/2022-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'the matter is closed. maths is not emotional. debate settled.'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'So I did some simple arithmetic. At odds--against of 303 million to 1, your chance of hitting the Mega jackpot (and winning a billion bucks) are about the same as picking an exact time, date, and minute counting back from now to the year 1446. Good luck! (I bought a ticket anyway :))'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'buying one ticket increases your odds infinitely... buying more than one, not so much.'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'True. You chances of winning are nearly the same whether you have a ticket or not, but definitely better with one.'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'significantly?'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Not significantly, I'd say. But not quite nothing.'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'insignificant is insignificant'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Whatever. I just enjoyed putting the odds in practical terms. 303 million minutes ago was somewhere in the year 1446.'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'lets debate'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'I disagree!'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'Let's compromise'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'OK'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'cant. wrong channel'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'we can agree to debate on tuesdays'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'dont neglect the channel. it has feelings.'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'oh use the channel, by all means'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'ok'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i disagree with Zensch's thought. i thinks its based on too little information. '
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lasher: 'no you'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'Lasher, never seen you here.'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'recovered?'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'what's your assumption I have thoughts? (support bots right)'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lasher: 'I would support bots rights if I gave them any.'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lasher: 'good thanks, mostly recovered except a lingering cough.'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Pump the Fuel :)
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Love & Wars: 'good to hear'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'but if we support bots rights, wont their lefts bebecome unstable?'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lasher: 'new debate subject, if something you read is the dumbest thing you have seen all day, normal personal attack rules should still apply?'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'technically, humans don't need any thoughts to survive. making them proper bots. so'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'yes'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lasher: 'fine then I'm leaving'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Pump the Fuel gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lasher: 'and .. ur mom!'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Lasher wins.
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'she has a boyfriend.'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'so, you lose'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the umbest thing you've seen all day is usually the most memorable'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'that's pretty much ticktock's algorithm, and correctly so, I suppose'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'now. since the boss is away, its time for your imaginary brass knuckles'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'Cilmarill is so wrong'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'most memorable would be.. I dont remember any at all from today'
T3/r7/2022-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i know i watched family guy compilation today. Stewies angry eyes.'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the first country that the balls to give bot-like jobs to AI will take over the world'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'that has *'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'since transportation is the main bottleneck. vacuum tubes. too easy. why the fuck is that not a thing yet?'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'no energy needed eve not go place to place'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'why is that not a thing?'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'it is doable.'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'yet, there is 0 effort'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'moving in vacuum is cheap. why no effort to actually make it work?'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'fueling the debate?'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'trying to'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'what are we debating?'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'it is absolutely possible now to make a tube that has close to 9 resistance to transport crap over any distance'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'close to 0 resistance'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'maglev tubes?'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'if you make make the tube to fall a bit, you dont even need fuel'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'this kind of solution to transportaion was possible since the first vacuum pumps. 100 years ago'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the problem of transportation is air-resistance. or water. that takes all the fuel.'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'plus the snakes'
T3/r7/2022-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'its possible solve it. but there is 0.0000000000 efforts'
T3/r7/2022-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'vacuum tubes would get vandalized just like the subway tunnels.  then leak, and then fail.  infeasible, alas.'
T3/r7/2022-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'also, underground construction super expensive.  train tracks give better roi.'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'how do we get rid of equifax?'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'explosives attached to the main support pillars'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'and then claimit it was jet fuel'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'exactly'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'ok, ok, i like where this is going'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'jet fuel in another building entirely even'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'although... cant they just move to another building?  I mean, lets et '
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'lets plan to get rid of the company all together, not just a few buildings'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'are you implying they have backups'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'this doesn't fit the fight club script'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'i wasnt implying anything, i dont think'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'i mean if i was i wasnt aware of it'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'why english doesnt have a proper "is not" word?'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'isn't seems to work pretty well.'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'aint is better. but not proper'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'No, that's the contraction of ai not  :P'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'isn't is uncomfortable for long time usage. for the jar muscles'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Life presents challenges for us all.'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Pump the Fuel nods.
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'what does the word "vibe" mean?'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Abig: 'Very Important Berserking Elf'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'nice'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but. we all know what it means'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Abig: 'could be I missed an "o" at the end'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'perfectly'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'yet all definitions for this word are just demonstrating how weak a definition can be.'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: '"vibe" is what will bring down the defining-culture. at last'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'feeling is personal. vibe is observational'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'vibe is a good word'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'a new good word'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'theres bad vibes'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'bad how?'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'in my language the word "spirit" is not religious.'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'its directly translated but doesn'n mean the same thing'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'what language does fuel speak?'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'gasoline or deisel'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'so. what would the word "spirit" mean if it's not spiritual at all?'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'when i watched Ozarks 1st season. it had "vibe". cant say this in my own language - there is no such native word'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'that blade runner movie had "spirit" - in my language. we have a word for this. but it means something else when translated'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'fine, ignore the question'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'im ignoring you.'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'alright'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'not a very friendly bard...'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'should i be friendlier?'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i could'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'dont care, you do you.'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'anyway. for me "vibe" and "spirit" are the most important words. but one is undefinable, the other is untranslatable'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'what is sisu?'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Pump the Fuel :)
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'thats Finnish for spirit i think'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'not sure'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'yeah "courage" is how Ive generally seen it translated, but like inherent nature'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: '"sisu" means the "contents" in my language. not translated. but the letters'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'what if there is no way out?'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'then you have to come to terms with staying in'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'omg you nailend'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'you nailed it'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'somehow ending the nail seems better ;)'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'all religions offer a way out somewhere'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'and the nature just ends you'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'thing is... what if there is no way out.'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i cant approve'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'there's always a way out'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'yeah. and be reborn as a sick hyena'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'what if there is really no way out'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'or not be reborn, and just, out'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'what if you have to be in this thing forever?'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'just... go on and on and on and on'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think the religious thing is that it's possible to be somewhere forever'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but I mean, we are'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'just not in heaven or hell, or being reborn or whatever, just all the thing I said and and the little gestures I did, made a tiny difference to to everyone every knew me. And so I'm still alive'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'see. being in a natural world with all the crap. living it for heavenly delights. living the shit out the thing to get back in.... what else? all this is bad. just bad'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill pokes Fuel in the ribs very gently. See? eternal life
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'its all bad'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'nothing is all bad. It's always half bad, silly'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'its bad'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'and its not up to me to complain'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'no one can complain'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'nahh that's the definition of bad. only half of it is bad'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'whatever it is. its shit'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i can complain only here'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'complaining is good'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'well.. half good'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'someone who doesn't complain is an idiot'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill complains about Fuel
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oh oops'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'there is no system that would be good'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: '0'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well imagine how awful it would would be id there was one system that was correct'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'there is a system. probably the nature. and it sucks 100%'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'nature is perfect'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's the result of what happens when life happens'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i know there is something more. but it sucks too'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think all that something more is also nature'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i know there is something more. but it sucks too'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'not that this thing here sucks. but that more thing. that sucks even more'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm I think I get you, but in a sense all you're doing is rejecting nature, and therefore provable reality. But what you're talking about is a physical thing. I mean we're in a text game, and I'm a super deadly super rich ninja halfling, that's my reality'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): MAMBO! Mushambo pats Cilmarill on her head.
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill brandishes her favourite dagger as Mushambo and murmers my reality.. but way to quiet for you to hear
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): MAMBO! Mushambo forgives Cilm's adorable typos since she speaks funny English.
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oh wow we're talking about reality and you're picking me up on my typing masatakes'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i havent been following, im at zoom school'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'we; basically me and Fuel were getting into the nature of self, and you're correcting my speeling mistakes'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'there is no truth beyond popeye - "i yam what i yam"'
T3/r7/2022-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill bonks MAMBO! Mushambo on the head for being such an UTTER moron.
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'eating any meat is not a sin...change my mind'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'no'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 81.tallpal Logrom: 'Does that include human meat? :P'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'lets explore that topic'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'are you familiar with ukraine during the 1920s'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Macbeth grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 81.tallpal Logrom: '..It's a show taking a turn I probably shouldn't have started ;)'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'well you did.. do yoh want to learn or shy away?'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 81.tallpal Logrom: 'I am not familiar with the situation in Ukraine in 1920s'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'would you like a video?'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 81.tallpal Logrom: 'er... Not particularly ..'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'alright, i conceed you unwillingness to view but basically as a summary Ukraine people were forced to starvation...6 million ukrainians died, as amounts of jew to hitlers final solution with jews...'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 81.tallpal Logrom: 'That is indeed horrible.'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'there was a.black market of human flesh'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 81.tallpal Logrom: 'Oh, I see.'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 81.tallpal Logrom: 'Black market is a twist I definitely wasn't anticipating.'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'its important to talk about'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i argue most people dont know that russia imposed this black market becausr they starved 6 million ukrainians to death to prop it to begin with'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'it happened 100 years ago, it might be happening now.'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 81.tallpal Logrom: 'Although that is oddly poignant, I find I have no real response.'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'while the economic and military resposes may be different, the russian plan is to starve ukraine in to submission...i see no difference'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i see no reason this argument be closed, as it is on going. case adjourned'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i have a new revival idea fror UN'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'since is useless atm'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'you dont read their resolutions?'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'that doesnt work anymore'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but no'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'all i know it doesnt work'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but here is the idea'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'collect money. huge amount. and build 10000 little observational satellites to record every bullet fired. and badass servers to store the data'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'mega-brother'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'not sure satellites could spot bullets being fired'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'elon musk's can'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'huge amount of money would take care of that issue'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill shoots Elon Musk
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'multiple dimensions of time too'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I shot him in my manor so the satellites couldn't see'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'its not legal to be naked in public anyway'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'dont worry.'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'ooh! maybe we could use the satellites to record all the naked people in public!'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'yeah. that might become the proble. bunch of perverts in UN when this goes green'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'lol, well with you at the head of it all? ;)'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'the head should be a female librarian in her 60s'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'because of morals'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'going round the world in a white helmet telling everyone to shush'
T3/r7/2022-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Pump the Fuel points excitedly at Cilmarill!
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Is it better to be "right" or keep your opinions to yourself even if it would help others grow?'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'To like not come off liike a douche lol'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's best just to offer people a different opinion gently, and let them make up their own mind'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: '"u r sux for change" ?'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Or, possibly, do it with better grammar'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i personally prefer a curt "No, you're wrong" simply stated as fact (when it is)'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'not even curt, more like a factual interjection :)'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well maybe if the person says "I think the world is flat and run by shape changing lizards" in which case I agree, followed by a swift about turn'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'no way, pass up the awesome opportunity to troll them?'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: '"Interesting theory...can you please explain the logic more?"'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'i see you all as highly regarded individuals'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I think you know me well enough to realise I rarely do an about turn :)'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): MAMBO! Mushambo eyes Defcon suspiciously.
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'warped sense of humor in some cases? :)'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'it has a double meaning'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'are you slandering that im high?'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'it has a double meaning'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'above my mental paygrade i guess :-('
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Is it appropriate to call another Aard commUNITY member the 'r' word? '
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'it was a joke lol'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'and if so, must there be a mental decathlon like Billy Madison'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'You go out there, and you find that fucking dog'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) No one but Hadrian: 'I usually make sure anyone I talk with has won a high school quizbowl.  Doesn't everyone?'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill google Billy Madison, skims the wiki page, and is none the wiser
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): MAMBO! Mushambo  smh'es at today's yutes/
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'sorry mushambo it was a joke'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'I apologize to anyone I offended by s-a-y-ing the fuck word'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill pokes Defcon gentle medium
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill looks Bloodthorn right in the eyes and says "piss!"
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Fyzzy Xyzzy has just bypassed a gaping void of fangs and teeth's anus and connected its intestines directly to its mouth.  Now a gaping void of fangs and teeth can REALLY talk some shit.
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'apparently debate is a curse-allowed channel, it's all good ;)'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'lmao'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'I know, I had to look it up after I was undeservingly bonked'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'there are, of course, far worse socials than simply getting bonked ;)'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Defcon tosses a pie at Bloodthorn and hits him right in the FACE!
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'debatable! '
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'ooh now i have to find them :D'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Holy crap! Bloodthorn has poop shooting from their bellybutton!
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): OMG! Fyzzy Xyzzy just popped out Bloodthorn's eyeball and is now skullfucking him!  Hmmm... what's that white stuff leaking from Bloodthorn's ears?
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'I rest my case.'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I love the bonk social - and for Defcon's benefit it very much has a double meaning where I'm from :)'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'sweet candy coated christ'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'erks!'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'get out lmao'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'there are/were truly some twisted people on the imm team!'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Fyzzy Xyzzy's eyes glaze over, just in time for you to get hit by evil immhax.
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Fyzzy Xyzzy looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'with a social token you can make your own'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Defcon bonks Cilmarill on the head for being such an UTTER moron.
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Bloodthorn bonks you in the mouth.
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'don't make me get my bonking stick out!!'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'lol ok, ok :)'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'ooh where can i get 1 of those tokens?'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'got one from a blessing myself'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'need more of those in my life'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill has developed the ability to make her own socials up whenever she wants
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'could i buy it for 500k gold?'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: '500... million'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Bloodthorn 's pinky nears his lip.
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'for the cur price of 50 million I'll tell you about colons'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'i only have 7 mil max... im broke'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'just google image search colon'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill STABS! Bloodthorn's google before the information gets out
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'nope nope nope'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'its just like 1984!'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'cil whats with you stabbing everything that moves?'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I've no idea what you mean'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Fyzzy Xyzzy is watching yooo!
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'Freud has his explanations...'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'look at my description, I wouldn't harm a fly. It actually says it, so it's true'
T3/r7/2022-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'my ereaders battery is at 33% :/'
T3/r7/2022-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'how do you pronounce fachtna'
T3/r7/2022-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'food porn is real porn. change my mind.'
T3/r7/2022-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'splosh.'
T3/r7/2022-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'also, i dont pronounce fachtna'
T3/r7/2022-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'any thoughts about Rings of Power?'
T3/r7/2022-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'what if. its a new theory. you've been killing a lot of people for joy. then die. then wake up in a white room. then you get asked :"next life(got to go):1.eat clay cakes and die at 10,2.go to live as a hyena 3.surprise"'
T3/r7/2022-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm I'm going 3 - surprise'
T3/r7/2022-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'when i was 20, i liked to think about these things. but its shit.'
T3/r7/2022-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'every possible version of things is shit'
T3/r7/2022-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'there is 0 ok ones'
T3/r7/2022-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'at least evolution makes sense'
T3/r7/2022-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill bonks Pump the Fuel on the head for being such an UTTER moron.
T3/r7/2022-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'foolish how?'
T3/r7/2022-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'just being silly'
T3/r7/2022-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but still the idea that every possible version of things is shit, is also silly'
T3/r7/2022-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'if you could point out how this crap here makes good sense, i'd be most thankful'
T3/r7/2022-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well imagine if you came back as a halfling ninja'
T3/r7/2022-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'then you'd be awesome'
T3/r7/2022-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'yes..'
T3/r7/2022-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'but being pushed around in taverns and patted on heads by incognito king-rangers'
T3/r7/2022-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'lol :) well the art of the ninja is to give people a false sense of security'
T3/r7/2022-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'on my many heads. because born as siamese twin-halfling'
T3/r7/2022-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'don't you feel trapped?'
T3/r7/2022-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'on crowded train I mean yeah'
T3/r7/2022-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but there's no need to feel trapped, there are shit things, and there are not shit things'
T3/r7/2022-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'i feel trapped when i should enjoy and relax.'
T3/r7/2022-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'doing my little things helps to ignore this'
T3/r7/2022-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I like the times late at night or if I wake up early, with my windows open listening to the birds, knowing that least for a little while other people aren't expecting me to do something'
T3/r7/2022-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pump the Fuel: 'yeah. those kinds of situations i feel it the most'
T3/r7/2022-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'if you live your life like a useless asshole, you can get that feeling all the time, c.'
T3/r7/2022-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'does hr scale differently in pk vs pve?'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'a town in Alabama has disbanded its police force to remove an officer who sent a racist text joke'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'https://uk.news.yahoo.com/entire-police-force-alabama-disbanded-201348800.html '
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yikes! but I don't understand - they hand to disband the department because there was no one there aho could issue the warnings? or, they'd have to do that three times before they could be fired?'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'they wanted to get rid of the racist officer'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'they couldn't before he did 3 things wrong?'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'but they would have needed to give two formal warnings first'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Classic Vost rapidly nods twice at Cilmarill, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean I'm going to get cancelled for saying this :) but, there's a good reason for the 3 warning thing'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Classic Vost cancels Cilmarill
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'either that, or else someone who knows the officer very well, and who knows there's no way to make them realise and change their ways, should have the power to dismiss them immediately'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'well yes, it's possible for people to make mistakes'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'and when the mistake is recognised by the person, that person can correct their behaviour'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'let them correct their behaviour in their new role as an uber eats driver'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'but the reason for the original joke is that many white people (evangelical christians) in Alabama are racist'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean you couldn't *remove* the racism from someone with a warning, all you'd do is make them aware they need to keep it to themselves, so I get it'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'USA cannot be fixed'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'seems like there needs to be levels of wrong. Like would an officer have to shoot innocent people dead in 3 separate incidents before they lose their job?'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'well, if they're innocent black people...'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'm aware that there's racism, and it's really very stupid to pretend that it doesn't exist and not learn to live around it. In my experience the majority of racists soften when the circumstances are right, and harden when they get admonished'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but I mean clearly the bloke was a twat, and I've no idea what it's like in Alabama'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'USA police service attracts the wrong kind of people'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'macho white guys who like to swagger around with guns'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I suppose the same is just like in London. And like the armed forces, right? and, as it happens, I don't want pacifists wanting to become soldiers. Just like I don't want flat earthers wanting to become teachers'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Count Zensch: 'it is flat!!!'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hehe :) I mean in Britain the police is quite different I think, so I'm just rambling. Here, if someone said that on twitter, they be out - and I do find it ridiculous that they had to disband the whole department to get it done. Like, seriously? even just, you idiot, do you really think that's acceptable??'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: '- video showing UK vs US policing - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9TFvh6Xps4'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'interesting - I would like to see some statistics on the outcomes of British police dealing with threatening knife-wielders vs USA police dealing with knife-wielders'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'don't British police have tasers?'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'pretty sure some of them do? I don't know though, certainly pepper spray and batons'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think they just call in for backup and the more weaponised police turn up :)'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'UK - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_Kingdom'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'US - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_Kingdom'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'sorry, - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'hard to compare but UK have killed 7 since start of the 2020s, US killed 11 in July this year'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'even adjusting for population thats insane'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'US has about 4.5 times the population i think'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'the seventh one (William Cameron) died while in police custody'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'it is unknown if the police killed him - investigation ongoing'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I grew up always thinking the police were approachable and helpful'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'the first guy killed had a firearm'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean obviously if I waved a knife around things might be different, but my impression of US police is they are more like enforcers than helpers'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'its fine to have a knife just dont wave it around lol'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'in two other cases, the wielder had already stabbed people'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I better keep my agony box secret :)'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'in another incident, the guy was wearing a (fake) explosive belt'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'wow I can hardly think of anything more stupid'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'suicide by cop'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'fake explosives? why not just wear real explosives XD'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Defcon: 'but idk what to say if ur wandering around with fake explosives...'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's difficult to understand that person's thinking'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'indoctrinated religious nutcase wants his 72 virgins'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but like if it's fake they're not getting them anyway'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'I guess he can argue his case with Allah'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'when I first move to London there was an incident to far from me where an IT specialist invaded a church with a samurai sword. A policeman broke off a pipe from the church organ and disarmed him. It's one of my go-to memories for the British police :)'
T3/r7/2022-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'um *not too far'
T3/r7/2022-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'When does it become appropriate to say "can we get started please?" on 10 person group webinar?'
T3/r7/2022-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: '5 minutes of small_talk, surely?'
T3/r7/2022-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'SHUT THE FCK UP ALREADY!'
T3/r7/2022-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'you can do it earlier by claiming you have to rush to another meeting after'
T3/r7/2022-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'need one of those shockjock .wav boards of sound effects, since my plan ot animate myself as a puppet has failed :-('
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'Ohio policeman shot and killed an unarmed black guy in the guy's bedroom'
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/01/us/columbus-ohio-police-shooting-donovan-lewis/index.html '
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'Mushambo - yeah I read about all of that. It's so blatant it's ridiculous'
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'that's how they operate though. Everyone knows the crap they're doing, and they just stand there and blatantly lie'
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'that way it's both a denial and a warning'
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'how long can living-room furniture set be left outside NEAR curb, before it's safely considered "for bulk pickup, take if desired"'
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'in my old neighborhood, about 5 minutes'
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'surely by dark?'
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'maybe the time it takes you to walk back inside'
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'given these neighbors have never onced invited me ot their pool, sounds about right'
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'what did you invite them to'
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'We got a pool... we got a pond... Pond would be good for you...'
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'I invited them to my well-reasoned opinions '
T3/r7/2022-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Torkin crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2022-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Macbeth: 'lasertag GOAT. Cooler or Trurien'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm anyone thin Liz Truss' acceptance speech watch sigh, meh, sleep?'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'I don't know who that is, so there's your answer.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the new British prime minister'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'cool'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and and yeah you agreed with me without even knowing so I suppose there we go :)'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'she has nicer hair than last one.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: '+1 she knows how to use a brush.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'one of the most pathertic and revealing videos I ever saw was Boris Johnson messing his hair up on purpose just before filming started'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'nice.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'wow I dislike Reece Mog so much'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'sorry, I'm aware that I'm just blurting while I watch the news'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'i'm not even fond of his name.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'perhaps lizz will suffle him to the bottom of the cabinet deck?'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well seems like he's been appointed minister for energy'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'could you maybe go and prance on his head a bit?'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'it's what i do best.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yay! time it so he keeps trying to say things but halfway through his word you prance on his mouth again, please?'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'sure..looks like I'll have to prance on business portfolio... he just got apointed to position.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): MidKnight Gladacus goes, "Hmmmm," but louder.
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'so are you in favour of Lizz?'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'bah everything about Reece Mog irritates me'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'I saw his walk... and it is not pretty.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean I actually know very little about it all tbh. Lizz Truss has a snazzy name - honestly that's my main insight.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'I see she's going to meet with Ukraine Zelensky. Are they going to do a piano duet? I assume she doesn't have the equipment but I assume she can improvise.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think if you close your eyes and say it, her name does sound like a singer'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'country?'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I was thinking pop'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'maybe Lizzy Trust is more country?'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'taylor swift like.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'crossover artist.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'in regard to my piano comment... if you didnt know.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oua0Puihrkc'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'ok it hasn't started yet but "Volodymyr Zelenskyy 2016 Playing Piano with Penis" ? erm?'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'yup'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'well despite knowing little about lizz truss, I'm interested to see how she will lead the UK.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'sadly I suspect it will much like it always is - the country goes where it wants, the politicians try to take credit for the things that go right'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'm way too cynical for my age right? I should be going to marches and rallys :)'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'cynical yes. wrong no.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'marches and rallies are dangerous (at least here in Communist UK Jr. (Canada).  '
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'before I watched Trailer Park Boys I thought you Canadians just drank maple syrup and were always polite to one another'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: '*snickers*'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'yeah we even have a book about it, How the Prime Minster Stole Freedom, written in the style of Dr Seuss.'
T3/r7/2022-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'https://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Prime-Minister-stole-Freedom/dp/B0B2F7Z4CH/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1O64VWZGXELWC&keywords=how+the+prime+minister+stole+freedom&qid=1662501929&sprefix=how+the+prime+minister+stole+freedom%2Caps%2C168&sr=8-1'
T3/r7/2022-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'it's funny when ppl talk about politics and politicians and mostly talk about the least important things like haircuts etc. :D'
T3/r7/2022-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Grrdy: 'Haircuts are one thing, but I think history has taught us all that it's the moustache we really need to look out for.'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'there are so many examples, Shiwmps, let's just take one - Trump suggested that maybe we should drink bleach to maybe cure covid'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'that was the media spin.  his actual comment was about a real technology'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'but i hate defending politicians.  they all belong in jail'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'but so do propagandists'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'lol it really wasn't media spin '
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'you can watch him say it if you go to youtube. You can see the befuddled expression of his medical advisers as he turns to them, they're desparate for him to shut up'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'I would still like someone to prove me wrong. If Trump was still in office, Russia would not be invading Ukraine.'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well I think the responsibility is on you, Garence - you need to explain why Trump would have stopped it'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'Trump didn't support Ukraine joining NATO. Biden did.'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'There's a dude named Peter Zeihan who had been predicting that Putin would try to move on Ukraine.  Don't think it would matter.  Per his analysis Russia was out of time due to demographics'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'erm also NATO did, also Europe did - oh hang on, also Ukraine did'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'seems everyone did'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'so, you think that because Trump supported Putin's policy there'd have been no war?'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'I think the only difference is we would be providing 0 or less aid'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'what policy?'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'and how lovely of the US to sit back while Russia inviades Europe'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'that was Trump's thing.  Fix it yourselves or pay us to help, not the other way around.'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the policy of "if it looks like Ukraine is going to join NATO then I will attempt to invade Europe and overthrow Ukraine's government"'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'wasn't his policy it was an agreement.'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'that's nonsense and you know it'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'I believe that was part of an old treaty.  Not to move NATO closer to Russia'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'pre-Trump agreement'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'I don't know the history though, help me out?'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'yes you're right about the treaty.'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'look, just to put the Trump thing aside - Trump is a bufoon who has no clue at all about busniess, politics, government, or pretty much anything'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'was never a formal agreement not to expand eastward no'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'NATO is an organsition, similar to the UN which is allowed to admit new members who achieve certain standards and certain mutual commitments'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: '"...told PolitiFact. "No. 1, NATO as an organization did not make this commitment. No. 2, it wasnt an agreement."'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: '""There is a legitimate point to say that the U.S. offered assurances to the Soviets that NATO would do something, but that is not the same thing as saying NATO offered an agreement,"'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'given that Russia IS wildly and inarguably violating numerous treaties it HAS SIGNED OFFICIALLY'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'Is that splitting hairs, or the international version of "i'm not actually touching you"'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'to be clear, not defending Russia's aggression, that's bad regardless'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'pretty sure driving a convoy of tanks into a civilian city is not splitting hairs'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'and it seems to be super poorly handled on top of it'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'any snowflake-ism on russia's part about private agreements not being adhered to ...'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'thank goodness'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'no no, I mean the assurances vs aggreement part'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'I don't think there's a legitimacy to war'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Which is a better title, "War and Peace" or "War, What is it good for?"'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'Wrilley you *know* there's no treaty that say - yeah, if you don't like it, then invade them. And I do know you're not saying that, of course. We were talking about whether this would be happening if Trump was still in charge. I'd say firm yes, because Trump is a wobbling baby with no idea. TBH I think if Trump was in power now the Ukrainians would be in a much, much worse place'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'oh, i'm trying to clear that up for myself.   IMO it didn't matter.  Russia was aging, Putin wants to expand, it's do it now or you're too old to do it later'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'America is by far the most powerful force on the planet and I'm happy to hide under it and occaisionally shout stab! stab! but the day America doesn't stand up for democracy is the day I dig a hole and lie in it shivering'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'Putin is a relic'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'ya.  that's acutally a problem.  The US seems to be backing away from that role.'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the best thing that can come out of this is that somehow Russia enters the 1980s at least (again)'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'that's an internal issue.  the russians need a new leader'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'might sound daft, but in the Internet we trust'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): MAMBO! Mushambo keels over from irony of trusting misinformation media.
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'if you can't control it, then the truth will out'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'Democracy for who?'
T3/r7/2022-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well, democracy is impossible, just like socialism and communism. But just trying to push towards democracy and freedom, that's what I feel - lets get as close as we can'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'any thoughts about human composting? yes no?'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'depending on what you grow, probably not best for soil'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'erm the practice using dead people to decompose into compost usuable by farmers and gardners?'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'no im just assuming would need lots of nitrogen fertilizing'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'well yes, few states are legalised using human bodies as a soil'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'erm I don't know much about compost, but we have little composter bins provided by the council, and you're only supposed to but vegetal matter into them'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/human-remains-can-legally-be-used-as-compost-in-2027-in-california/ar-AA126m3J'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'they don't want nitwits putting plastic and styrofoam in?'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'more useful as compost than put in a wooden box or even burnt to ash'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'not just for plants, but insects'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'im aiming for marble mauso..however it's spelled ;)'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'like Lenin?'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean, if you want that for you own body, then I have no objections at all'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'interesting argument is that ppl would not like to buy food from CA, as it would potentially grow on human remains? so it would hurt economy'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'heh like marilyn monroe'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'good luck growing in other climates soon enough'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'skip the groundwork and eat the corpses'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well it'd have to be proved that it's perfectly safe, and hopefully also that it's actually quite good compost'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'no reason to be unsafe, compost is compost'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'hmm, I'm not sure compoast is just compoast'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'right, but if it's too high in certain minerals and not enough in others, like what's the point'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'b/c then you'd just have to amend with other sutff anyway'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'you dont have to use it straight, the compost can be added to'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well so there's the point - is it actually an efficient way to make good compost or is it just one of those things that we humans can inefficiently pay for just because we like the idea of it'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean either way I don't see any reason for it to be illegal'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'what about argument that human body is sacred after death and should be not used as a soil?'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'im not sure CA's the only state that has remains in its soil'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well to me that's just nonsense, we all become soil eventually'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'its not really about the benefits of using it as a fertilizer as it is being a more natural way to dispose of a body'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'well what about ceremonial burial? where does someone's else's views of an afterlife become acceptable to you'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'cemetaries and cremation are not beneficial in any way'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'by fire i mean :)'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'so its not really the conversation thats being had'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'well yeah, that's what I mean, you do what you want. Personally I'd like to be buried in a coffin. But I have no problem with other ways to be allowed - if you want to do that, then go for it'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'in my opinion it's all about 'power' of a group, if majority ppl would agree to do not touch remains - that would be law, if majority of the ppl would agree that we should eat flesh of the dead - that would be the law etc.?'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill makes a mental note to never accept an invitation to Zensch's dinner parties
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'I don't care what would happen with my body after death as I'll be dead anyway'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'no, but you make the choice while you're alive for the benefit or preference of those that you leave behind'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'just, being turned into compost isn't a ceremonial thing - it's not like your family members get to watch it and stuff. So to me, unless it's an efficient way to make compost, or else makes really good compost, it's just *shrug* whatever. But the point is, I don't think it should be illegal'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'human composting isnt the same as using a dead body as fertilizer guys'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'yes'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'it's like natural thing to do'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'its the option to have your body buried naturally instead of pumped full of chemicals and stuffed in a box'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'I assume that link explains so? '
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'it was the first one i've found'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'no, it says you have your body put in a steel compost chamber with wood chips added to it'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'well, there is no statement what's happen next with the soil / remains'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'then a month later your remains are removed and incorporated into soil'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'sometimes the resulting soil is returned to the family to do with what they like'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'there would be no graveyards which is a plus?'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I mean, it's basically a slower version of cremation'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'just saying. So much of entertainment media is so focussed on killing (backstabs a mother while watching a film where someone just shot someone in the face)'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I get it, death is fascinating. Just as live is unfathomable'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but still though'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'what movie?'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'it's called Hyena'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'hmm. never heard of it'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but, is it just because death is an easy and simple interaction? so it works for games and films? like a spaceship shotting another one just makes more sense than, say, getting exp points for doing good at school or tidying the garden'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'why is the ultimate fantasy to kill people?'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'good question'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'also yes, I'm a bit drunk and tired'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'it's the most dangerous game'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'i would play more on that question, but i am tired as well'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'right yes, the ultimate highest stakes, the most exciting'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the least mundane thing a person could do, you're right'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'yep.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'why are horror films so popular? they all suck'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'most do. I enjoy the older ones like psycho, but i guess that's more thriller'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'not at all scary, just go for the shock factor, which is more annoying than fun, terrible acting, terrible story lines'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'thrillers are great'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I don't think I've seen a horror film that actually scared me'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'they aren't.  Box office wise, they are usually poor performers, but are cheap to make.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'news conjuring cost 39 mil to make, made 82 mil.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'newest.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oh actually no - the Hole? I think? where they went underground, that was scary'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'hmmm that makes sense'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'meanwhile, something like F9 was 200 mil to make, made 714 mil.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'F9?'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'fast & furious... '
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'the last one was just F9.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'oh another series i dont get'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'yeah I watched one of those and it's basically the main character being all growly and sexy and endless shots of people changing gears'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'made 714 million, so apparently people watch em.  I liked the first one, but I was in high school back then.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I suppose we all just love watching people dies, or pretending to kill people'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'ehh.  Ive deployed a few times.  Choice of movies changed afterwards.  '
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'not a fantasy anymore.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'oh so you went off it?'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'I watch some horror, like quiet place 1 & 2 were good.  More sci fi.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'cant really do more realistic horror anymore.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but by deployed you mean in the army, right?'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'well, more I dont want to.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'yeah i dont consider them horroe films'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'yeah, Army.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'm in medicine, so I suppose I have to learn to think of death differently too'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'but so that's the common thing - you're trained to kill, I'm trained to do the opposite, but in both case, being close to death makes it less exciting'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I don't mean that entirely literally, but you know what I mean'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'sure.  Maybe also the other end of the spectrum, now I get too much stimulation from those things to where it causes anxiety, with no rational.'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'right well because it's not just some world class gorgeous hollywood film star pew pewing people, you actually get it'
T3/r7/2022-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill backstabs another young boy to death because QuestoR told her too
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'fuckwit Colorado policeman parked car on railway tracks and arrested woman inside the car was seriously injured when a train hit the car'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'https://www.denverpost.com/2022/09/23/colorado-train-hits-police-vehicle-woman-inside/ '
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'qualified immunity, cant sue him.'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'He may yet be seeking new employment.'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'how do people this stupid get into the police force'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'they probably gave him a gun too'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'its not unusual for police forces to deliberately hire the duller spoons, because they are more profitable.'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: '"more profitable"?'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the smart ones might figure out a way that what they are doing is wrong, and stop.'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Classic Vost goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'remember that its very hard to sue the government, and nearly impossible to sue the officer - so whatever they do, there generally arent any consequences.'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and writing tickets and making arrests is _very_ profitable for the gov. involved.  alot of that reward comes back to the cops, too.'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'so police officers can get away with almost anything?'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'pretty nearly anything, yes.'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'the system is fucked up'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'who polices the police...'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'kick down your door, shoot your dog, batter your family into the hospital, steal your coffee maker, all that is legit.  as long as they had a warrant for some address, any address really, or thought they 'smelled marijuana'.'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'they do, v.  they do.'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Classic Vost buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'more reasons for me to be glad that I don't live in USA'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'hell, even without civil asset forfeiture, policing is still profitable, because of all the fines, fees, and court costs.'
T3/r7/2022-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'heh, doesnt matter where you live, they get it from ya some way or another.'
T3/r7/2022-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'why are women less rational?'
T3/r7/2022-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'no one wants to touch that eh? maybe thats why.'
T3/r7/2022-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'to be, or not to be?'
T3/r7/2022-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'that is the question. Whether it is noble in the mind...'
T3/r7/2022-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'never much seen the nobility in suffering, personally.'
T3/r7/2022-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'yep.'
T3/r7/2022-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'or were you looking for me to disagree?'
T3/r7/2022-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2022-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'compelled speech is as abhorrent to the notion of liberty as is compelled silence :p'
T3/r7/2022-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'also, to be, because eventually we will all not be'
T3/r7/2022-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'eh, thats just what they want you to think.'
T3/r7/2022-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'that we wont 'be'.'
T3/r7/2022-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Furen: 'in what sense'
T3/r7/2022-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Furen.
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'I know we all here can enjoy a good debate, but...stuff like forcible gene editing to 'solve pre-crime', its a no-no right?'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'who is doing this?'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I told you, there's no such thing as precrime, and there never will be!'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'plausible application of 'longtermism''
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'sounds like a no-no, what if it was gene editing to solve world stupidity?'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'basically utilitarianism for tech bros as I'm gathering, feeding into escapist fantasies'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'still a nono?'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'right I'm just verifying my steady moral compass against internet folks'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill decides that Mushambo's moral compass is about to go awry and performance a citizen's arrest in anticipation of the impending danger
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fancy Feast: 'you mean, like, eugenics, right?'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'we don't even know all the inspector gadget level zany experiments are being run on earth these days'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i've yet to see where the hard moral line is for longterm-ism, so sure why not throw eugenics in '
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: '"Bostroms argument is that a non-existential disaster causing the breakdown of global civilisation is, from the perspective of humanity as a whole, a potentially recoverable setback."'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'we're so far away from understanding the human mind it's absurd. It's just a fun idea for a story or film to think of us being able to control people in any precise way, including genes'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dr. Evl: 'I mean, all it would take is some psycho dictator to allow testing on humans like we do to animals and we'd be very close very quickly'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'in meantime, plenty of stratosphere/space experiments ... like my buddy ust got money to try and do the stratosphere stuff from Stephenson's latest'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i WISH i could say he'd latched onto something real, secured actual scientists, etc. gosh  no. but he's blowing stuff up himselff off baja?'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'sums up more succincntly some issues with longterm-ism: https://aeon.co/essays/why-longtermism-is-the-worlds-most-dangerous-secular-credo'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'ayn rand meets minority report'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fancy Feast: 'Page not found fyi'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'sorry? https://aeon.co/essays/why-longtermism-is-the-worlds-most-dangerous-secular-credo'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'yes I recopied, so i dunno what issue is'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fancy Feast: 'Maybe its just me but same '
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'maybe just http: then? '
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'https://bit.ly/3CWgRO9 ?'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'the thing is - we humans have *always* and *always will be* more capable of destroying ourselves. It's actualy confusing to me since it's a none argument. It's like Apple proclaiming that "this is the best iPhone ever" well obviously it is. '
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fancy Feast: 'got it'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fancy Feast: 'I'm on iphone I'll click anything!'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Mitch Hedburg joke about "photo of me when I was younger"'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'by no means a philosopher, but i liked reading about it in hs? haha so maybe there's more nuanced interpretation'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'but i'm generally fond of Aeon writers, i.e., i trust they vet the bona fides of who they let right, albeit amybe with an existing view (?)'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'ok I get it now, nd it's very interesting'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'again, "why NOT take the chance exploding some balloons in the stratosphere" solves all our problems...until the point of unintended consequences?'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I feel like the problem is that predictions of the future are quite frequently wrong, so you can't plan for them'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i asked if he knew what that might do for the ocean (i mean, i dont, was just posing a hypothethical)'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'so I get it that longtermism attempts to loog waaay beyond the future. Still though, it sort of seems like an excuse to simply not care about the present'
T3/r7/2022-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fancy Feast: '^'
T3/r7/2022-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'it seems defeatist towards humanity frankly, and the conditional probabilities are SO remote, that's why I was trying to see if it has a moral hard line'
T3/r7/2022-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'nothing i read indicated any qualms about research into "solving pre-crime" if that capability would keep some conceivable John Connor alive for Alpha CEntauri in 3200'
T3/r7/2022-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'i haven't read all topic, so Mushambo, what is pre-crime?'
T3/r7/2022-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'no need to read all topic, save yourself :) heh no actually been reading into 'longterm-ism''
T3/r7/2022-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'and like any decent justification for its implications, mch of it reads 'reasonably" at first'
T3/r7/2022-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'only under the assumption you can with high % predict the future (long-term future)'
T3/r7/2022-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'until you start looking into what it theoretically permits with loose morals in the meantime, basic utilitarianism recast by tech bros'
T3/r7/2022-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'yeah, they can do it better than Bentham and MIll b/c algorithms? :)'
T3/r7/2022-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'so, simply, it is not a debate about utilitarianism (spellign), but free will vs determinism? :>'
T3/r7/2022-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Which is a better name for a mediocre service tier: "Netflix Basic With Ads" ..'
T3/r7/2022-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'OR... "Netflix Basic, with Ads" :)'
T3/r7/2022-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'In reality it's Ads with Netflix?'
T3/r7/2022-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'pretty sure they disqualed that one in first round of research'
T3/r7/2022-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'is Pluto a planet?'
T3/r7/2022-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'unwilling to confirm or deny'
T3/r7/2022-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'nope, it's mob in inferno'
T3/r7/2022-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'those darn "scientists" downgraded it...well having just found report from .. 2nd grade-ish, i dunno would have to find a Print Shop version history'
T3/r7/2022-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Parkour-Chess would be an awesome Olympic sport'
T3/r7/2022-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'hello'
T3/r7/2022-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'my neighbor is only one in entire neighborhood that somehow decided "chainlink fences are still cool", does that mean that I need to put on pants to grill in my own backyard?'
T3/r7/2022-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'no, but you should wear clothes to grill for your own safety'
T3/r7/2022-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i didnt mean ANY pants, i meant like not pjs :)'
T3/r7/2022-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think you should wear your special chanlink pjs, Mushambo'
T3/r7/2022-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'oh, i thought you were gonna go balls out to flex on em'
T3/r7/2022-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'maybe wear an apron and nothing else'
T3/r7/2022-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'he's a weird one, like if i were to turn on the mower for a few minutes right now. he would mow again. did it yesterday'
T3/r7/2022-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'it's a remarkable illustration of behavioral conditioning. type of folks who cant stand NOT having shortest lawn on block'
T3/r7/2022-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'sounds like you need to build a nice fence and see if he copies you'
T3/r7/2022-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MrBucket: 'mind-blown.'
T3/r7/2022-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'ehh im a renter, just know for a fact my landlord was like i'll pay 80 percent"'
T3/r7/2022-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'ultimately decided chicken on propane...no clothes changes required :)'
T3/r7/2022-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'is breaking "lesser laws" morally lowed to prevent others' transgressions of "more important laws" ?'
T3/r7/2022-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Soloran: 'That would depend on your morals, and if you're asking about that or the actual legality.'
T3/r7/2022-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i asked morality, legality, you should consulter your own lawyrs, i trust mine :)'
T3/r7/2022-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Soloran: 'Well law and morality don't always coincide.'
T3/r7/2022-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'what is morality?'
T3/r7/2022-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Soloran: 'The rules one chooses to live his/her life by.'
T3/r7/2022-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'if you aint Kantian or Rawslian, please let me know so we can wrastle :)'
T3/r7/2022-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'What's the chance that Biden invites the new Prime Minister Rishi Sunak to the White House in the next 2 years?'
T3/r7/2022-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'what's the chance he lasts longer than 6 weeks'
T3/r7/2022-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'yep'
T3/r7/2022-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Imean I'm deferring to yalls expertise for any interivew? I figured 20% was a ssafe discount AND i mentioned "maybe this dude is even still around"'
T3/r7/2022-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'whats the chance biden can pronounce 'rishi sunak' without tripping over his tongue or getting lost on stage?'
T3/r7/2022-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'khm'
T3/r7/2022-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'oh the channel is still here'
T3/r7/2022-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'which is more crooked, claiming amnesia by answering "I do not recall" 72 times, OR (loaded question) being too dumb to even claim that defense and pleading the fifth'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'how many years younger than oneself, can you still refer to someone as "a kid" ... 10 years?'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'if you're 80 and you call a 70 yo kid they'll kick yer butt'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Soloran: 'In real life or in a video game chat?'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'What about tiger'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'or champ'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I'd call the 70 sport'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Najin: 'What about Billy the kid'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'well i doubt i'll ever have that problem, 40 vs. 30?'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'are you mare jane watson?'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'if no, no one'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'and i guess the qualifier should have been "accidentally by slip of tongue" vs. "to their face"'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) No one but Hadrian: 'Call everyone Champ.  #veryonevlikes to be a champ!'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'how many "broken wires" are too many for electronics devices? '
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'depends on which wire(s) broken'
T3/r7/2022-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i think its the truth one :-('
T3/r7/2022-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'when is it wrong to use a politician's own statements to illustrate their own idiocracy?'
T3/r7/2022-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'there's a sub for that'
T3/r7/2022-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i meant beyond the obvious of aspect of "you've lied on promises" '
T3/r7/2022-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'oh i mean the "if i were president i wouldn't do this" but does it as president'
T3/r7/2022-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'depends on what your definition of "it" is i would think'
T3/r7/2022-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'naah I've just stumbled across a politician who's quote is "I honestly wish it was a Saturday Night Live Skit", which I agree with, the notion that im in reality reading that a US senate candidate is talking about furries'
T3/r7/2022-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i come to the internet for fun, not to look up yute words'
T3/r7/2022-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'im more than happy to discuss more legitimate conspiracy theories, pluto "not a planet", greek sculptures were "painted" etc. not that'
T3/r7/2022-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'test'
T3/r7/2022-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'when is the appropriate time to 'choose sides'... like say during the Alamo?'
T3/r7/2022-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'you have to follow the heart of the cards'
T3/r7/2022-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Soloran: 'Sometimes the side chooses you'
T3/r7/2022-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i guess the side would find someone based on moral decisions expressed before. Apparently the claim that you're a 'good person' has changed over the years '
T3/r7/2022-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i still think morality matters but i gather with yutes these days, i might as well advocate people still eat meat :-/'
T3/r7/2022-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'we're still allowed to argue Pluto is a planet right? or did the sky scientists negate all my childhood reports :-( '
T3/r7/2022-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I think it's a "dwarf" planet'
T3/r7/2022-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'that's still a planet'
T3/r7/2022-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kerith: 'i thought it was downgraded officially?'
T3/r7/2022-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'but to any yutes these days, like a nephew, if i call pluto a planet he'll think im dumb basically? :/'
T3/r7/2022-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'apparently a proper planet has to have cleared the neighborhood around its orbit.".. ?'
T3/r7/2022-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kerith: 'ya downgraded to dwarf - https://www.loc.gov/everyday-mysteries/astronomy/item/why-is-pluto-no-longer-a-planet/#:~:text=The%20International%20Astronomical%20Union%20(IAU,neighboring%20region%20of%20other%20objects.%E2%80%9D'
T3/r7/2022-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'so do i get a refund from nasa for my dot matrix paper on pluto being a planet? or who do i send my complaint to?'
T3/r7/2022-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kerith: 'sue the old textbook companies that should work'
T3/r7/2022-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i think lucy probably charges more than 5c b/c of like "supply chain issues"'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'do some folks 'see time differently' on different levels?'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'musicians vs. athletes, nostradamus etc '
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'time is pain in the behind'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'Australian guy charged with manslaughter for not taking his 11-year-old to hospital after the boy was bitten by a snake and later died'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'https://uk.yahoo.com/news/dad-charged-manslaughter-ignoring-son-065712282.html '
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'smh. First I thought maybe this was one of those "faith will save you" cases. '
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'Everyone knows that outdoors will try its best to kill you in Australia. No idea why a native would ignore a snakebite.'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'ah, the fake ending of Mark'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'Appalachian snake handlers'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'its possible to develope resistance to snake bites.'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'developers developers developers developers'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'up to a point'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'unnecessary in Australia now'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'they have antivenoms for everything... if you get medical help'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'how to thibk only simple thoughts?'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kerith: 't9s are ruining the mud, change my mind :p'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'if t9s are ruining the mud, and to reap the full benefit of epic rewards you need to be t9, then by extensions are epics ruining the mud?'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'there was 2 commas in that sentence.'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'how are t9's ruining the mud? '
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'its easier to read the commas instead between the commas'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'not to be grammar-coppy, but... there WERE two commas.'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'if T9's ruining the mud and they are moral, they should recreate their chars to stop ruining the mud... if they don't do it, they are immoral. change my mind'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) HereComeDe Smudge: 'I don't think 'grammar-coppy' is a real word'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'shit. now im thinking why the hell "was" felt right.. and still does'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'Moral t9s?  I don't believe they exist.'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fyzzy Xyzzy: 'aside from that, morality is purely subjective.'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) No one but Hadrian: 'The Moral Orel show was great.'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'what is NOT subjective?'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'that the sun generates heat?'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'that stones are lighter than air?'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'that Donald Trump is a disgusting character?'
T3/r7/2022-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'ooh dammit I got the stone one wrong :))'
T3/r7/2022-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'any decisions on the 'right inspired books' made during council of nicea  are... suspect? Thomas and Enoch, I'm still baffled'
T3/r7/2022-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i've asked the sky scientists and all i get is a rote answer of 'because they weren't inspired' ... well, that's like their opinion right?'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: '10-year-old New York boy got a tattoo, the mother and tattooist were arrested'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'https://uk.yahoo.com/news/mother-arrested-10-old-found-005003069.html '
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Soloran: 'if a 10 year old wants a tattoo he should be able to get one'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'there are tribes that ask kids to put their hands into gloves filled with bullet ants. to become man.'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'sure, but that is the norm for that culture'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'a tattoo artist should know the law about his own profession'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: '-is- it illegal to give a tat to a minor? what about to a 17yo?'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Depends on the state. Some it's ok with parental permission.'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'depends on the country'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'but the kid -had- parental permission. his mother's'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'tattoo is removable.'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'so i guess i don't understand the arrests'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb2jGy76v0Y'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'whoops, those are just Stephen Hawkings last words. Meant to: "endangering the welfare of a child "'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'So i guess it's public offense in the state'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Soloran: 'how is letting your kid get a tattoo that he asked for endangering his welfare?'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'oh, i see. just read the article. in NY it's illegal for minors to get tattoos with or without parental consent'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Always good to read laws before doing stuff.'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'tbh, the tattoo artist should've been aware of legislation concerning his practice.'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'surely tattoo artists have some level of training before they can be accredited as professionals?'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Soloran: 'I thought New York was one of those my body my choice places.'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'artist usually live in different realm'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'more important than reading law is not being caught'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'is this 'butterfly' effect that Biden with Xi had a cuppa and now rockets miss some targets?'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1697080/russia-poland-missle-dead-NATO-state-Ukraine-war-pictures-world-war-3'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'wait what, biden and xi had a cuppa?'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'they didn't ? :D'
T3/r7/2022-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Methuselah Zensch: 'at G20'
T3/r7/2022-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'if all yutes are successful in aspiring to be 'youtube influencer', will the world still have enough ditches?'
T3/r7/2022-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'white Louisiana policeman shot and killed an unarmed black guy'
T3/r7/2022-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'https://uk.news.yahoo.com/body-cam-video-shows-louisiana-003347799.html '
T3/r7/2022-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'honor amongst thieves? I think it exists'
T3/r7/2022-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'If you know not to trust people.'
T3/r7/2022-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'sounds exhausting, can't we just agree on a handsign?'
T3/r7/2022-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Hand on pistol?'
T3/r7/2022-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'hand-rolled or sieved hasj?'
T3/r7/2022-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'its 2022 and jetpacks are still for selected few.'
T3/r7/2022-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i know several angry ostriches'
T3/r7/2022-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'diagonal or cross cut sandwiches?'
T3/r7/2022-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'diagonal, treat yourself'
T3/r7/2022-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'portos cross cuts theirs just sayin''
T3/r7/2022-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Not really Wrilley: 'cut into the shape of my enemies'
T3/r7/2022-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'I'm a diagonal person myself - you get that one side with the rounded edge'
T3/r7/2022-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'also I just it's fancy'
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'if the earth is flat, why are there still timeZones?'
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) No one but Hadrian: 'Its because we're on a conveyor belt.'
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) No one but Hadrian: 'one giant world-creating factory.'
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'the world. natural or not?'
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'nobody knows'
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the more i learn about quantum mechanics, the more strongly i feel that the world is a simulation.'
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'many of the wierdnessess look pretty similar to a programmer trying to deal with memory and cpu resource limitations :p'
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'sorry, that doesn't compute to my brain :-('
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: '_exactly_'
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'sometimes stuff just looks like green wirefram mesh modeling when you look to the horizon'
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'hasn't been computed yet'
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'a slight imperfection in the delayed rendering algorithm.'
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'no sense rendering parts of the universe noones looking at.'
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'we're not supposed to be staring at ghosts'
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'ghosts happen when garbage-collection hasnt finished on that section of stale memory.  dangling pointers are all kinds of messy.'
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'on the other hand, the potential for buffer overruns and compromisation of hidden info is lovely :P'
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'b/c i got dropped as a kid, i recall nothing :-( '
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the 'sum over paths' looks alot like 'we didnt bother to calculate the path until it mattered, so we ended up averaging things out'.'
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'stack smashed, got it.'
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'if not for that and some boxing, i probably could remember my password sorry'
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'obvious solution is obvious - store password in box :p'
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'prove me wrong'
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'you put what in your box'
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'well now we got a quorum?'
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'you can put anything you want in box - you could put a cheese sandwich in box, it does not matter.'
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'oh i think it does'
T3/r7/2022-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'heres a real head-scratcher - the universe doesnt contain enough data storage to describe itself.  thats why you can only measure the spin of a particle on one axis - its only got one bit, so if you measure vertical, it loses track of the horizontal.'
T3/r7/2022-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'what if animals figured out that we are assholes?'
T3/r7/2022-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kerith: 'pretty sure they already know'
T3/r7/2022-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'but what if this becomes an evolutionary info. a genetic info'
T3/r7/2022-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kerith: 'already is, thus they avoid us by default'
T3/r7/2022-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'what if they turn the info.. into something violent?'
T3/r7/2022-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'we have guns.'
T3/r7/2022-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'who?'
T3/r7/2022-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'all of us in the matrix.  we have guns. lots of guns.'
T3/r7/2022-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'number? don't ask don't tell'
T3/r7/2022-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'If you don't have a loaded shotgun holstered on your bed frame, are you really protecting your family?'
T3/r7/2022-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'would you buy a bike with steam engine? for fun'
T3/r7/2022-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'why yes and why not'
T3/r7/2022-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Probably not, simply because I would't know how to fix it if it broke down.'
T3/r7/2022-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'any salad can be made Caesar if you stab it enough?'
T3/r7/2022-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Rhavage directs Mushambo to a seat in the corner.
T3/r7/2022-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'i just finished a book about helium, i couldn't put it down'
T3/r7/2022-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'now books can float? new and exciting developments :-/ '
T3/r7/2022-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'no i just mean it was really good'
T3/r7/2022-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'has anyone watched "What Is A Woman"?'
T3/r7/2022-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'just the biologists, g.'
T3/r7/2022-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Andy Borowitz is a wonderful humorist. Headline for his story today: Kari Lake Claims Victory In Georgia Runoff'
T3/r7/2022-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'hitler.  debate is over now.'
T3/r7/2022-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Er... what?'
T3/r7/2022-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec nods at Rhavage.
T3/r7/2022-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Heh. Thanks. That cleared it right up.'
T3/r7/2022-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec is looking around for a cloak to buff his nails on...better run!
T3/r7/2022-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2022-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec buffs his nails on his cloak. What a stud.
T3/r7/2022-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'i defer what a women is to Ketanji '
T3/r7/2022-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'k is not a biologist. qed.'
T3/r7/2022-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'hehe'
T3/r7/2022-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'but K would answer but not in that (biological) context.. I wonder what context she would * ponder '
T3/r7/2022-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the internet destroys both nuance and context.  her argument is invalid.'
T3/r7/2022-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'bark bark'
T3/r7/2022-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'quack. '
T3/r7/2022-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'lets open a discussion. but instead nailing the witty response in 10ms, lets take a moment to ponder..'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'so. the question is. should we respond instantly and nail it? or take the time. '
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'depends on the question'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'too fast'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'i dont trust that response'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'I don't even know what the topic is.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'i thought about it for 15s and typed it out in 1.  you said 10ms.  that's 1500x longer than requested!'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'hm'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'double points if you go for the quick witty retort AND its ad hominem'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'what if you thought about it for 2 min?'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'a debate where the chan is opened every 3 minutes'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'this debate is too academic and high brow for me'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'now. lets hold our horses'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'This debate makes me glad for group pupping spam, cause I don't even know what the fuck it's about.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'this debate has no topic yet.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Rhavage finds himself relieved.
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'but we are positive your position is wrong'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'ill debunk you in 3 minutes'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Rhavage is having a crisis. It's hard to watch the pup, the debate, and soccer all at the same time.
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Rhavage doesn't even give a shit about soccer most of the time, but hey -- it's the World Cup
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'i still have no topic, had not typed anything about it and you have no "we" to speak of'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'You folks want a topic for debate? Here's a genuinely hot one. Did the US do the right thing exchanging Bout for Griner?'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'if people need a topic to debate, wouldn't it be the demise of debate culture?'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'not a topic. just a question'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'but even with the most heated debates... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK5baBcO8T4'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'everything is just that'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) No one but Hadrian: 'Needing to be prompted with a topic merely means that other things are occupying peoples minds.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'this is the topic. the best ever video of the world: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK5baBcO8T4'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'My macaws coulda chewed through that shit faster and while listening to Bonnie Tyler.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'But I don't have it on video, so i'm not voting on best video or not.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'you missed the point!'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'the point was that enthusiasm dies even when you're given awesome tools'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'first. omg. this thing. i can cut it in half like that... and then. whatever'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'I'm pulling it back up. You might have me there.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'penalty kicks shouldn't be called PKs when people who play muds in the room'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'its the best video of all time'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'are in*'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'pks outdate muds'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'that video describes the issue of a tool and a goal'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'its raw and honest'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'it really does come around at the point of the robot orang. and solidly finished with her sprawled half assing the sawing then yawning.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'there is that point too.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'its a sad. but a shortcut'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'human people are all about shortcuts'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'I'll agree that's the best video I've ever seen of a nonhuman looking dead on like I feel towards the end of a work shift.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'a human would not act that way. thats a point too.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'a human acts more... dignified after such shift. for some reason'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'there was still energy if someone had called it time to pack up and go to the bar. I dunno, I've gotten close to that lazy when cutting stuff on a lawn.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'Best ever video is charlie bit my finger.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Smoloran Soloran drops the mic.
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'you cannot drop the mic here'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'pick it up!'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Maybe sawing isn't her jam. She should get ona shingle crew and I bet she'd kill at humping shingles up the scaffolds.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Dein Untergang kicks the mic under couch on accident.
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Smoloran Soloran sits on the couch.
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Orders pizza for the couch.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'that charlie vid is so evil. 666'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Are kids just tiny asshole people?'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Clarification: tiny people who are assholes.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'they are what nature is'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'nature is evil'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'nature is chaotic neutral'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'chaotic evil '
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Chaotic neutral is a great way to describe my toddler. he's not got manintent, just happily runs around trying to destroy the world.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'how is that not evil?'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'evil is generally associated with intent'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'every bunny and deer knows what the world is - evil'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'first reaction is to bounce'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'the only sane way keep on living'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'although he mixed playdoh colours so maybe he is the devil... It's not inherently evil to enjoy fucking things up. Intent is all that matters, if you accidentally do something or cause unintended consequences then it's not evil. if you like throw a brick off a building towards a crowded street and it doesn't hit anyone it's still evil intention.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'i must drop my mic'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Please, everyone stop dropping micss, the floor is getting cluttered. The vacuum won't pick them up and it's so much work to sweep them off the carpet. '
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'this world is based on evil.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'bunnies and deer know that well'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'deerie'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'bunnies and deer deserve what they get. they are cute food walking round waiting to be eaten when not banging to make more food.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'evil won the game every round. '
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'the genetic info is stacked'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'when called for, the evil prevails'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Treerats are dumb, but atleast they are smart enough to go up a tree in hide in branches'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'you can enjoy being good. but when the time comes, only the amount of evil info will help you through'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'I'm just arguing that anything that tastes good and is covered in usable fur/leather and walks up to stand in the yard probably deserves to be stew and boots.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'there's nothing evil about skinning a bunny and lining boots while eating it.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'unless your thing aint being pubeliched'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'pubelicked'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'what?'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'the constant danger of the intenet is that some of us might be drunk'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'undeclared'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'ahh. Best sticking to known drunkard sites'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'this place is one of those'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'If avoiding some people.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: '3 wines'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'its a lot'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'or 3 wines is just enough'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: '3 wives is too much'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'what's the measure for a wine? litre?'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'decilitre'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'about 3 rossis then.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'decilitre needs to die'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: 'the most common size of a wine bottle is 75 centilitres'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Classic Vost: '( 750 millilitres )'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: '.75 litres'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'whats a litre?'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'this is Murica and we speak Murican.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'in freedom units, thats a 'fifth'.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'what a weirdly dumb way to say double pint, but god bless america. '
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'wtf is a pint? im not changing transmission fluid here, man.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'mannec are you american?'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'you mean a 40oz'er'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'even in britainia they still rock pints. might not know what it means other than the glass you try to kill ppl with that you don't like at the pub... '
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'fohty aint about freedom, thats just the drug slaves to the man drink to forget their oppression.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'It's also for broke teens.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'thats what i said.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'fair enough. I boiled it down alil and cut a slice off.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'is there a point to raising minimum wage if it drives cost of living up?'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'I think it's pointless'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'the difference between a point and a good argument for or against it, is itself.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'ask better questions'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'its a political hack.  good for some votes every now and then, but otherwise no.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'what about universal basic income'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i think we all ought to go back to the forests.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'not even good for votes, so far.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'quit depending on everyone else to pay for living for you.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'hardline it is from me on that end, minimal government is a great government in my opinion.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'UBI just makes people lazy (at least the study or two I've read)'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i believe more in charity than i do government'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'is reappropriating from government entities so poorer folks can subsist alright'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'which isnt a lot, because NPO's are 95% admin costs, thats not the type of charity i mean.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'well, that depends on your world view...'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'what does npo stand for'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'what ppl need to have to live in some spots is wildly different than in others.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'that is two very different questions, m.  'is charity a good thing' vs. 'is government involved in the issue a good thing' - the answers are very different.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'oh non profit org, nevemind'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'one could argue that people ARE worse off because of government reappropriations...history has proven this'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'didn't know that poorer folks being able to eat was considered a world view, must make me a revolutionary'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'weird i didnt see anyone argue that someone should starve, ill check history'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'it is one that is far from universal, m.  and only if you do something about it :p'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'so...maybe to better understand your question please explain your scope...is it global? national? regional? local?'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'heh i meant re-appropriation BACK from the gov to give to others'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'pay more attention, t.  its not an uncommon position.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'you can have things work VERY well for communal living on farms, but scaling it isnt easy or proven effective, ever...'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'you are assuming there is only one way to solve hunger and then taking a nice "look how nice i am stance" assuming that is the only solution'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'I guess I would have to ask why are the people poor? If they are lazy fucks, then no.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'or maybe better said, Robin Hooding (not some app the yutes developed) from the "takers" to give back to givers'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'so where is the social uproar...if someone is on foodstamps or government assistance, paying for a $7 drink at starbucks with taxpayer dollars...is that good?'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'or someone who swindled a man out of his kids that he pays childsupport and alamony for a new coach bag? id like to understand the question better...'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'if you tell me there are/were "crackheads getting free phones from the government" lol, i'll have to suit up'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'and of course has an iphone 14 they're texting on at starbucks.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the root cause of 'poor' boils down to a statistical relationship between population and resource utilization - the balance wobbles quite a bit, but centers around subsistence.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'do you think there arent?'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'there's spots where it's less than 400 a month to live and ppl make 7 dollars an hour, but it's aligned. if they made 15 min then places would fire ppl and people would be homeless from not making any money all kuz some want more. '
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'the entire stimulus cheque...'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'in all of america, i bet there was a crackhead who bought a phone from the peoples money given back through that redistribution'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i'm quite positive there was no massive welfare fraud scheme years ago to get free cell phones '
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the free phones for crackheads thing was an attempt to add tracking devices to criminally-inclined people - it worked, by the standards of government programs.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'read what you said before my reply, and what you said after...think about it.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i'd meant it wasn't like intended as fraud by anyone who may have beenenticed into it :-( i like free stuff too'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'buffalo soldiers'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'ITS NOT FKING FREE'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'hold on, who spells cheque?'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'YOU'RE SAYING ITS FREE!'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'he spells like some damn foreigner.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'its not free bro.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'O canada baby'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'people from canada dude, and plenty of other countries'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'sorry i probably mistyped, i just meant i dont think a crckhead had the idea "i need a 'free' cellphone and im going to deceive the government to get one" ? im probably wrong '
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'as opposed to "i have 'free' money and need a phone"...?'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i consider mobile access almsot a utility right at this age'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'whats the difference?'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'mushambo have you esen the stats on the amount of PPP sam'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'sorry, scam'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'its pretty impressive'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'ANY time you give someone an incentive to cheat, they generally...more probably than not, cheat...and when that cheat is in the collective debt, everyone loses...this is why governments suck often.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'no gimme a minute, I was too busy giggling at the amoutn of who knows what level of crime made possible by Texas cronyism through some license plate scam going on for years'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'the government doesn't consider mobile access a utility though. somehow they are fine with requiring students to use the internet but count access as a luxury.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'too many chances to cheat...lets all just move back to the forests.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'yet another example of government efficiency - failing utterly at solving a problem it created from nothing.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i wish i could get paid for incompetence'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'homie, i'll live by you in a forest if you share food once in awhile for some firewood.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'be a politician'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'its called 'civil service', m.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'or that'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'well, this isnt an argument. I'm going to smoke some weed.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'you smoking in my yard? kuz iffen be I'll pop out.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'What I consider the most ignorant move right now is giving people 'stimulus' cheques to 'help' with high inflation rates.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'well hardly the _most_ ignorant - i mean, the competition at that level is _fierce_.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'please explain the issue if some folks (not me obviously) started deciding 'person X is greedy, person Y needs to eat, i can drag this column to another.."'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i can once i go smoke'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'who gets to make these decisions'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'they gave that shit to people that were making more money. most ppl i know blasted it on dumb stuff they didnt need.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'maximum good for the greatest number, in that situation, usually results from individual management. other forms generally produce lesser results.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'intentions matter...im not talking wall street. those people stealing from everyone for ... forever.. "liquidity" lol'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'can always tell a scam by its name 'effective altruism' was nothing but :-('
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the concept of 'economic stimulus' reflects a poor understanding of mis-leading measurements of economic health.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'agreed'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Is there a term for legally robbing rich people?'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'well if i've gotta about ayn rand philoposphy of economics..i do need to suit up'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'entitlement?'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: ''oh you like selfishness? that's cute please go on"'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'funnily enough, the answer is not 'taxes', u.  the rich are better at buying laws than that.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'mmm, i think it might be 'crypto', u.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Torkin: 'web3 fixes this'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'first prove that you can read'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'The road will always be paved with folks' good initial intentions'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'wait, on a text channel you need proof of literacy?'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'pretty to think so - near as i can tell, cronyism and incompetent taxation are far more likely.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'unless you spell it with the letters FTX'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'you might use alexa or google to input your text here. who knows'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'even the best text to speech rarely manages better than about 93percent.  i think maybe we would have noticed.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'chatbot, now - that might be harder to pick up on.'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'prove that you're a person'
T3/r7/2022-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'prove i'm not a potato.'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'if we spray salt all over the snow everywhere. so it melts. the winter temp's would go up and the energy gets cheap again.'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'sure...'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'salt is cheap'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'and there are even better chems instead salt of course'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'temperature doesn't raise... freezing point only lowers...'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'but i still like your idea.'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'snow reflects sun'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'thats the major culprit of low temps in winter'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'we must get rid of snow'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'okay that reasoning works.'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'you in?'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'but to spray all this salt requires energy... have you calculated the offsets?'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'the first attemt we can use the enthusiasm instead calculations'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'otherwise I'm leaning towards solar powered roombas with magnigfying glasses.'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'enthusiam is good.'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'you have snow already?'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'yah. its pretty polar here'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'while snow reflects sun, it also insulates... just to throw that out there too.'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'oh right'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'there is just no winning'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'just don't melt the snow around the houses.'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'don't give up yet... it still sounds plausible... and you could use the salt over an over again.'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'weird thing is. i had 13C in my room and didn't even notice'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'in september, after hot summer. 16c was intolerable. but now 13C aint too bad'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'the body adjusts well'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'yes there's alot to be said about that.'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'i have 17C here now. and it kinda feels warmish'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'it's around 17 here inside.'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'you made me do math.'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'math or google'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'yeah okay i didnt' 5/8 -32 or whatver that is.'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'obvious solution is obvious - switch to rankinge scale, and have no expectations of feel.'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'whose more stubborn? me refusing to accept my fave dinosaurs attacked each other and that Pluto is no longer a planet ... OR the scientists'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'plutonian dinosaurs reject your query as unworthy of consideration.'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'that was a quick cancellation, i guess speed of light/sound has sped up? that answer shouldve been years'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'precognitive plutonian platytheres predicted your predicate, pre-empting the piddling pause imposed by photonic perigrination.'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'misunderstanding might mitigate my meaningful musing of your message'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): You are splashed with blood from Cilmarill as her skin is slowly peeled away by Mannec.
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec pees intently at Cilmarill.
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill smiles sweetly so she seems sanguine
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'sorry, that sanguinity  flows from the flensing :p'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'take comfort however, for bleeding _always_ stops.'
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cilmarill googles flensing and then her smile sort of drops a little
T3/r7/2022-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'fear the typos.'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'thieves are more trustworthy than others?'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'well they're definitely not gonna call the cops'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cilmarill: 'way more trustworthy than people who make things come out of there fingers'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i can trust a thief who doesn't feel the need to steal from an honest person'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'daylights savings time is literally a scam perpetuated by energy companies now...change my mind (you're going to have a very hard time)'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'you wish it was that well organized.'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i dont have to wish anything'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i said you do, not that you must.  the original idea, so says the history books, was to _save_ energy costs.  depending on who you listen to, it either did or did not fail completely.'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'so, that note is *necessarily* in times of war, as a war measures savings act of burning fuel...right?'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'im not sure i follow that statement, g.  but yes, the idea was to move daylight from the useless parts of the day to the parts people wanted to do stuff - thus reducing their need for energy-intensive artificial lighting.'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'do you know much about peak-time pricing for energy prices?'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'not in detail, no.'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i had a friend who had griddy, he got mudbutt raped a few years ago during the summer'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'he thought he had a great system of automated power usage and the peak rates just spiked so high in houston'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'mudbutt raped? I'm a little afraid to know what that means.'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'so...this conversation has derailed...'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'it never got going'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'that sort of thing happens any time you discuss economics or politics.'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'so mannec, it is easily proven that daylight savings time has been lobbied by energy companies (not hard) to keep in place even after a war time measures act put it in after WWI'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'go on.'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'how does daylight savings time benefit energy companies'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: '6/10 people think daylight savings time is there for farmers...like cows and fields give a fk what time we call the sun rising...'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'thats pretty funny - it was always kind of the opposite.  there is a reason a chunk of indiana didnt join the bandwagon for so long.'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'It is not clear whether daylight saving time (DST) benefits energy companies. Some studies have suggested that DST can lead to energy savings by reducing the need for artificial lighting, while others have found that it can increase energy consumption due to the increased use of air conditioning. Overall, the effects of DST on energy consumption are complex and not well understood.'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'I don't think so, Gaury. I think people think it's there to provide an extra hour of daylight at day's end for regular workers in daytime job'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) TreeMunch: 'DST is a meme concept I'm glad us here in Arizone don't have that garbage'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Cool, TreeMuch. I'm glad that we in NY State *do* have it'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'regardless of energy savings or not, its pretty clear to me that the act of changing clocks twice a year has a horrible effect on safety and productivity.  nation-wide.  for weeks at a stretch.  i would guess those results are more significant than any potential energy use reductions.'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'I like it. I think it's allowed to like DST without any ulterior motive.'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'since people tend to use artificial light, even during the daytime, whenever they do stuff - folks havent been strongly tied to the solar cycle for quite some time now :p'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'A one hour change has a horrible effect on safety and productivity? HowEVER do, say, major league baseball teams jump two and three time zones at a crack and still manage to perform ?'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'a larger portion of the working populace has to deal with dragging their asses out of bed an hour earlier - meaning they are less awake during their morning working period.'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Prancin' Garence: 'and the driving to work period.'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and of course, many of them are operating multi-thousand pound explosion-powered death-machines on public roads - while the kiddies are waiting for the school bus.'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'where we go one, we go all!'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) TreeMunch: 'based q poster'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the other change isnt quite as bad, since staying up later is easier than getting up earlier - but its still stressful, leading to increases in overeating, drinking, all that jazz.'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Jesus, are we really a nation of such delicacy? I spent 25 years as a professional firefighter, routinely switching between day shifts and night shifts and routinely getting yanked out of the rack in the wee morning hours. I should now consider it a miracle my system didn't simply collapse in protest.'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'timezones are a hell of a drug :-('
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'pretty much, r.  most folks would fall apart from that sort of work schedule.'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i knew a professional firefighter that would drink 2 30 packs of bud on his off-times...would that make him a professional?'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Mannec, I think you underestimate most people.'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Sure would make him an accomplished drinker'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'heh yeah, i was like "impressive"'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec shrugs in response to Rhavage's question.
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Can't De Cide: 'I think people can adapt if they really wanna do that kind of work but does take a lot of willpower.'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'some can, and some do, that doesnt mean its a healthy lifestyle - and for those that dont deal well with it? its worse for them and everyone around them.'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Well, there are a LOT of people who do that sort of work, at least as far as scheduling goes. Firefighters, police, physicians, nurses, electrical grid system operators, air traffic controllors, etc etc etc'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'right, right - and do you really want to be descending rapidly from several thousand feet in the air while an already stressed-out atc is _also_ dealing with an hour less sleep than usual?  i dont.  i hold similar feelings about folks injecting me with needles and stringing high-voltage wires.'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'I'm sorry. I simply have no respect--none, zero--for the changing-the-clock-by-an-hour-twice-a-year-is-savaging-my-life-rhythm argument. '
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'you dont have to respect auto-crash statistics - they spike without your well-regard :p'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'ive got no respect, zero for a lot of things...i put up with it b/c its called society'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Ok'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Can't De Cide: 'Thats a different debate all together i feel :P'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'Well, I'm glad we have DST. I guess that's the long and short of my argument'
T3/r7/2022-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'apparently it's a danger for children to have to wait at the bus stop in total dark at like 8 so that the barbecue industry can sell more crap during summer. bam mic down'
T3/r7/2022-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'fwiw, changing the clock by an hour twice a year is savaging my life rhythm.'
T3/r7/2022-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'vegan food is an afront to the species.'
T3/r7/2022-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Do you trust a d20 to make choices for you?'
T3/r7/2022-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: '20? who are you a mental bill gates? i trust d6 to make my decisions'
T3/r7/2022-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i trust a d20 to entertain me.  they seem to have a well-developed sense of ironic comedy.'
T3/r7/2022-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'a d6.. the answer is so unclear. But yes on the ironic comedy. Sometimes you get 3 catches and chop off your arm outside the bar while the dm explains the quest.'
T3/r7/2022-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i routinely get irrelevant spot checks that push low earth orbit - while failing every attack in an entire combat.'
T3/r7/2022-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'So you look at shit very hard when a clear glance would tell you it's a cat.'
T3/r7/2022-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'for an epic campaign, i built a character who turned out to be the most effective combatant in the party - while stunned and immobile.  turns out? not much fun after the first time :/'
T3/r7/2022-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'if it's a black cat, yeah im pretty sure my clear glance knows things'
T3/r7/2022-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'ha! counted those tail-hairs, belike.'
T3/r7/2022-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'once spent an entire ptolus session rolling ones, and re-rolling nothing less than 19. it was hilarious - turned 'hiding from the guards' into a bugs bunny/pink panther skit.'
T3/r7/2022-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'I got a 1 on picking something up and cut my hand off.'
T3/r7/2022-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'I rarely get a 1, but they almost ruin a character when I do. it's never a 1 on spot and I don't see the wall next to me, it's always trying to pick up a knife or jump'
T3/r7/2022-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'pretty sure your dm is doing it wrong - 'picking something up' shouldnt require a roll, unless there are some kind of plot-relevant circumstances that might make it a significant act.'
T3/r7/2022-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'It was a slightly extreme thing. That char sucked at everything though. Although, I might have been pissing the DM off that night.'
T3/r7/2022-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2022-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'I'm a pretty forgiving dm when I sometimes have done it and mostly I give ppl cake to hit. I want story and fights to be more than if they can notice random stuff.'
T3/r7/2022-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'the last one i ran tho one dude (maybe rightfully, but to the bane of the night of hanging out) refused to participate because of alignment issue with my pc. that was literally the point of the story and it broke the stuff I wrote so I threw dragons at his char and we quit playing the session. '
T3/r7/2022-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) TreeMunch: 'I'm not getting vaccinated and you can't make me'
T3/r7/2022-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to TreeMunch.
T3/r7/2022-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'will Mickey Mouse prevail over Ronnie Hairspray?'
T3/r7/2022-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i feel mickey will win eventually, b/c one is a cartoon character with literally billions in legal support and one is...someone who takes steroids, (point A)'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'is sushi without rice still sushi'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i can undercook fish myself, if the rice ain't expert..'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Najin: 'no, that's Sashimi'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'so i had this exact same debate twice with this guy and he says i'm just being an ass and it's semantics.  '
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'and when i googled the exact same question and copy paste the response he was like "oh see you're just playing semantics"'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'at that point i was going to google what semantics actually means to this guy but thought naw he's too dumb to argue with'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'second to unagi, what's the best fish to order?'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'bluefin tuna'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'relying on ai to sort out the news. '
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'how do you feel about people creating things that think better than people?'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'but the topic is still about the news'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'an ai will think like a computer, not a human'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'whats "like a computer"'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'as in, lacking a lizard brain, emotions, etc'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'emotions are personal'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'people don't like bots here so'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'a bit of info is just a trigger'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'have you read about the concept of free will being an illusion'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'such things wouldn't apply to a computer'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'your monkey brain makes decisions before you do'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'so. the news.'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'the news puts triggers into your brain'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'coffe good.  dry age beef good'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'would you prefer it being sourced from a human or the computer?'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'computer'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'so basically facebook'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'facebook is a "+ -" loop'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'its not ai'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'yet'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'once facebook's ai gets good at predicting long term attention, it will be... good? or bad?'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'but not facebook.'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'the brains get filled by some shit'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'it was all human shit. until very recently'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'nowadays, and all the foreseeable future, it will be computer's shit'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'more and more computer shit'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'well. if we survive ww3 that is gonna begin very very shoryly, we must think about that issue. '
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'philosophically'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'is humor replaced by goofing lately?'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'was there a memo?'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'do you mean in game, in general, or in media?'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'um. '
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'media=universal?'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Media and universal interaction aren't interchangeable. Some people still look at people and talk without it being a comment section or about videos. Unless I mistook you meaning Universal the media corporation. As for media I'd say tiktok, vine, and even youtube have hurt comedy being humourus and replaced a lot with goofin/mindless things that aren't actually funny.'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'but where the line falls on nonsensical humour and goofy stupidity I can't tell.'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'so, is there any humor left?'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'that is not goofy'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'all is replaced by chuclit and cancel'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'they cancelled my favorite chuclit'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Yea, but it's a matter of it being money made on being dumb for views and anyone that has decent things to say gets ignored because it won't 'trend'. '
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'what the fucck is chuclit?'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'finally someone reads what is written in letters'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpiAhxaE_oI'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'im so sorry. it was spelled with an "o". choclit'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'there's way better Brit comedy. But I guess I don't watch much new stuff kuz it's mostly bad with or without pandering to genZ'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'the contents of that clip is absolutely illegal to spell out here. but its ok for TV 13 years ago'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'humour on tv sucked all along. the 90s was a big thing where the joke was a boy wants to kiss a boy. Seinfeld had a big 'not that there's anything wrong with that' thing even though they were fighting revulsion. Talented writers are more rare than funded shows.'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'whicch would explain why self publishing works well for hacks that churn garbage out for people that just gobble half jokes that don't make them think.'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'tuttle twins'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'I think Viva La Dirt League is the only comedy channel I follow.'
T3/r7/2022-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'street luge being canceled was tragedy'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'i have one question. it seems interesting. i might have asked this yesterday already but... are you ready?'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'i wasn't ready yesterday'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'i am prepared to wait 15 min to reply'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'the raw bits. of info floating around. the technical ones. how to measure it agains the .... whatever bits that humans have?'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'i just use a tape measure for the relevant bits'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'the human bits vs the computerish bitch'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'im asking only because the .... here i forgot the word..'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'the quantity bs the quantity'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'would you elect Santa as your president?'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'that would depend entirely on his campaign platform'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'i don't trust folks who bend laws of physics as a principle'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'santa has an odd stance on abortion'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'Depends, is he going to be using my tax money to give free stuff to everyone in the world?'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Santa is pro burglary which I'm not sure I support.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'hes also pro slavery'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'he also runs the largest registry of personal information in the world. Something the alphabet agencies are surely jealous of.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'year round mass surveilance'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Santa might be a bad dude.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'he might be bad and corrupted'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'but he means well? does he?'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'I'd support him being like some sort of transportation sec.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'mayor pete > santa'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'is Santa a strong man?'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'a straw man maybe'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'would Santa start wars?'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Methuselah Zensch stares dreamily at Love & Wars.
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'no more than mickey mouse'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'mickey mouse owns the death star tho'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'but yeah, it's a hard pass for santa on my behalf. he's also a bit too interested in the children'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'turns out it was just Pluto'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'that's not a moon. or a planet.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'its a cold cold celestial dwarf'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'wait, Mickey owns the Death Star, or Pluto?'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'Currently the answer is: yes.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Mickey owns both and I'm pretty sure he's stronger than ronnie hairspray'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'And why can Goofy talk but Pluto can't?'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'fake news is that Pluto's no longer a planet either :-('
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'same reason Donald Duck doesnt wear pants, but does wear swim shorts'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Pluto will always be a planet to me, prejudice by teachers be damned.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'why would you even care?'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'because teachers lied to my children.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'you dont have to rely on them, you too can teach your child'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'if a teacher told a kid that's not a rock and it was a pebble then I'd argue it's just a small rock and they have a limited view.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'but I doubt they lied, they probably gave what was accurate information at the time, and then much like other areas of science, undestanding has changed'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'haha, i had that discussion with them. very funny I got a note from the school to pretty much not try to sow seeds of revoluution.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'a dwarf planet is a planet though. that's the problem. a small sattellite is still one. it might not be a moon, but it can still be a sattellite.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'I think the PC term is 'radially challenged''
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Dein Untergang bonks Hrrdy Grrdy on the head for being such an UTTER moron.
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'haha, solid bants'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'more like... UNTER!'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Was? Bist du ein lecker Küche?'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'shoot, I dont speak spanish'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'sorry, my hunger got the best of me.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Que?'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Tbf I wasn't saying they were lying to the kids, but it's a missed opportunity to teach them to understand dynamic terminology. Things can be the same thing and still grouped differently.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'what if it was qualified by "Our current classification regards it as x"'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Bloodthorn I like that. It's accurate and allows for changes.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Lol, sorry. I didn't realize I was on the phone for half hour.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'What if Ninja was the black panther?'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'Like Ninja the Fortnite streamer?'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'no, the dude from die antwoord'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'Nah he definitely wasn't.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'He's from South Africa, Black Panther is from Wakanda.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Both I think would be horrible, but what if that shit happened and he ran the most advanced shit in the world...'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'Well he did have that one robot Chappie'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'wekanda doesn't exist so, still in africa he's got a weird chance. '
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'Wakanda does exist, its just hidden by technology'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Yes, and army of Avenger leverl Chappies. the Ultron bots but all Chappie.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'prices appear cheap to wakanda'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'I doubt they have an import export proper. some dick would ruin it and say they were shipping to wakanda with their trailer'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'is public? I thought debate was sistered to curse'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'debate is approved for profane language'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'ok. I was concerned for a second that I'd not.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'see 'help channels''
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'in recompense I got a decent debatable. Best movie of the 70s?'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'like after The Godfather 1 and 2?'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Easy --- The Hobbit'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'were those good tho?'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'Star Wars?'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Here's a real tough debate'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'best 90's movie'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'SO MANY TO CHOOSE FROM'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'terminator 2? matrix? fight club?'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'off the head I wanna say Demolition Man'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'jurrasic park?'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'Forrest Gump'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'murderdeathkill'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'shawshank'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'mid 90s was really kinda killing it, but 80s 90s were the best time for films'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'titanic'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'a scrabble box lets you spell murderdeathkill.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'It was that whole transition from film to digital, as well as the introduction of CG into movies'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'The very best of film was being made after the decades of experience in that medium'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'while the new guard was starting to innovate with these new digital technologies'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'some cg was good, a lot sucked though. no diff than now really. CG did kick some films up to where crazy shit was premium.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Pulp Fiction'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Jurassic Park CG still holds up and it was some of the earliest'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'thats because there wasn't much CG in jurassic park'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Pulp fiction can suck a fuck. that movie was pretentious trash. '
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'exactly'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'my thoughts. haha'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'well that's spielburg for you'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'spielberg sorry'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'they basically discovered how dinosaurs moved in herds b/c the animators wanted to render it well'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'they used it like a fine spice to improve the film'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'terminator 2 is like...'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'they also discovered the utah raptor during jurassic park filming which made the huge raptors have a reality basis.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I'm always stoked when there's a chance to rewatch it'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'yeah, its a classic'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'very easy to watch'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'a mini laptop with a proper cord to just insta hack atms. only use that shit for arcade tokens tho.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'im pretty sure the world wide web makes it possible to rewatch (almost) any movie anytime? '
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'EASY MONEY'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'yeah but its hard to choose to watch things but easy to keep watching em when you flick to em on the TV'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'since hacking came up. Hackers was a stupid and awesome movie.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'oh yes'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I loved that movie'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'my brother got a poster signed by johnny lee miller and angela jo lee when it came out'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'They hacked everything with no effot, but props for bringing up phreaking payphones.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'or whatever her name is'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'back then there was no effort, cybersecurity wasn't even thought of'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Guy of Gisbourne: 'what about the hacking in War Games'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'What is her actual name? Angelina Angela Angegelinga? we may never know.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'that quarterly STILL exists..ill tip my hat to that '
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'Angelina Jolie Voight'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'war games was 83, but still solid hacking on a csi/bones level '
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'it's pretty well known, she's actor Jon Voight's daughter'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'Still love that video of him weeping... what a legend'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'If we're gonna go into insane hacks, Weird Science. They hacked a hot chick/wizard into reality.'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'if only it were so easy to get a chick back in freshman year as to just bullshit some magic up. haha. i haven't seen that in a few years and maybe need to watch it tonight'
T3/r7/2022-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dartan: 'titanicho'
T3/r7/2022-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'humans create more problems than solves'
T3/r7/2022-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rhavage: 'It keeps us from being bored. '
T3/r7/2022-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'could be'
T3/r7/2022-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'the problems though. most of them are useless. unless damaging'
T3/r7/2022-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'the bad thing about alcochol is that it has 20 minutes delay'
T3/r7/2022-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'if it was instant, the problem whould gho achway'
T3/r7/2022-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i feel nothing yet, i should take more'
T3/r7/2022-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'exaclty'
T3/r7/2022-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'who or what is your provider these days?'
T3/r7/2022-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'bacon is a spice'
T3/r7/2022-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) HereComeDe Smudge: 'spice: any of a class of pungent or aromatic substances of vegetable origin, as pepper, cinnamon, or cloves, used as seasoning, preservatives, etc.'
T3/r7/2022-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'cant grow a pig? wheres the scientists at'
T3/r7/2022-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) HereComeDe Smudge: 'even if you could, that doesn't make it a vegetable :P'
T3/r7/2022-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'but you can make it one, at least one sense of the word'
T3/r7/2022-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'just need a neurolink'
T3/r7/2022-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'what is the most professional sounding way to comment on an former colleagues post about "ownership, accountability, performance" while it's provable he just copypasted someone elses stuff'
T3/r7/2022-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'if it's on linkedin, just leave it alone'
T3/r7/2022-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Hrrdy Grrdy rapidly nods twice at Smoloran Soloran, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2022-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'darn yall probably right :-( my brain mixes up what platforms are appropriate to reply with truth'
T3/r7/2022-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: '9 times out of 10 social media platforms aren't it'
T3/r7/2022-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'it gets so tempting though :-('
T3/r7/2022-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'Post the resume, apply for jobs, like a few posts, that's my linkedin user exerience.'
T3/r7/2022-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'i don't even post resumes. i just get harrassed by headhunters.'
T3/r7/2022-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'Yeah I don't even use the platform any more.  I've started going straight to company boards.'
T3/r7/2022-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'But starting a fire on there isn't a good look.'
T3/r7/2022-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) 1337 H4x0r Fiendish: 'the most professional way is to ignore it and move on'
T3/r7/2022-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i love the companies that think i want to go through the process of creating a brand nw account on THEIR platform..then can't get their own tech right'
T3/r7/2022-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'There's just a few, I'm in government contract work and I stick to the primes these days.'
T3/r7/2022-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'thanks yall, youre right :) truly tempting though'
T3/r7/2022-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i should treat it as a 'Hmmm...DULY NOTED" level platform '
T3/r7/2022-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'what is it?'
T3/r7/2022-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i just heard a german physicist state 'god knows whats up with dutch twitter'.  discuss.'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Feb 29 is really March 1'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'from time to time.  but then, time is an illusion...'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i'm pretty sure Leonardo probably chose to 'clean his kitchen' by hiding the pots/pans in the oven? much faster'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'maybe all the cosmic radiation these space billionaires are getting is what's rotting their brains? blame the sun'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'are AI designers ahead of philosophy?'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'nah'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'ok. i give you an angle. '
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'doesn't matter how uber smart and brilliant you are. 99.9999% of your thoughst are bs.'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'or more'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'you have how many "thoughts" in a day?'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'how many of those are worth writing down'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'asking a human to spit out only smart thoughts wold be failure'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'once a "smart thought" is defined, an AI can make a stream of it'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'so. are AI designers ahead of philosophy?'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'oh. lets say philosophy is like mental acrobatics that sounds witty'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'they haven't defined so well'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'theres some freedom to it'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'what id every human suddenly went horny towards mambas'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'everyboy trying to have sex with a mamba snake'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'body*'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Resolved, that doesnt seem like a prudent idea?'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'what type of trust do you use when you see a food product lasts 'til 2024'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'if its meat or dairy a lot'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'that's like a year away. I wouldn't even think about it.'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Is it canned atleast?'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'opened. its a ketchup'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'it should last 2 years'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'its suspicious'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i'd read that heinz 57 is like one of those 'perfectly designed foods' along with cheetos...food scientists'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'a canned thing last for 2 years though'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'im confused, you expect it to last longer, or shorter?'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'nobody ever reads the real rules'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'I have no clue about ketchup. If I eat grilled cheese for a week It'd last maybe a few days otherwise I don't think ketchup goes on anything. But anything with that much preservatives has to be killing people slowly  '
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'I think its the vinegar'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Good point. I forget vinegar is a thing that does weird things besides make some peoples sandwiches taste terrible.'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'also. volcanos'
T3/r7/2022-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Ha, now I know what I'm doing with the kid on winter break. Making a huge juckin volcano'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'To beer or not to beer, that is the question.'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hrrdy Grrdy: 'and consequently, my internal debate now spills over to the internet.'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Has gluten free gone too far?'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'too free'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'last news i heard was that vitamins cause cancer'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'I saw a water that had gluten free tag and that seems like going overboard.'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'but it is gluten free'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Dead people don't get cancer and they don't eat anything.'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'nothingwrong  there'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Why say it though? We all know water doesn't have gluten. and people that are alergic would know to check lables on things that might have it. I think it's less for the people that need it and more for the point of just saying it.'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'water is a bit far, but it gets slipped into some weird stuff sometimes.. like scrambled eggs at IHOP'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'How would you gluten eggs?'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'they mix them with pancake batter'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'if i was the water maker company. i'd put "gluten free", "lead free", "radiation free" on my bottles'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'the last one... that might be a little lie though'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Watcher Mahon: 'add Urine Free as well'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'I only get the burger with an egg at IHOP. But yea, that's kinda what bothers me is that it's on stuff that doesn't really need it. Maybe at restaurants since you can't look at ingredients. Ha you can put fecal matter free on your water too, but people will wonder why you had to. '
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'yes'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'its probably less true'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'I'm just gonna stop caring when I buy stuff.I'll buy the organic vegan gluen free water, which may or maynot up my rad counter.'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'i wonder what % of water hasnt been urine'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Like Dinosaurs peed right? birds cloac and I dunno about fish. It's almost all gotta have been pee sometime.'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'there has been constant consumption of water.'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'or atleast mixed with. Like the ocean is a mess of gross just hanging out and mixing.'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'there's that giant trash island floating somewhre in the pacific? massive'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'yeah but its not really an island'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'That's like the result of a hundred years of industrialization and we've only picked up. soon enough we'll have land bridges of trash between continents. The planet will be fucked, but we could get a bus to europe.'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'the planet will get unfucked within less than 1000 years once we're being nuked off by each other'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'That's something really. Crocs and Gators will still be cruising being super chill murderunits.'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'i give us about 60 max'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'if we make it about a hundred we might be able to simulate the world and human life. At that point we could just have digital kids and move them to a world we didn't fuck up.'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bloodthorn: 'again? arent we already in a simulation?'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'This one sucks tho.'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Somewhere there's a decent computer running all the simulations and sub-simulations and they probably hate things too.'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'does Banksy exist as an individual or a massive collective?'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'honestly states that people bitch about open carry are stupid. they want ppl to hide guns in public? that seems more nefarious. If I see someone with a gun on their belt I worry less than the other people around with knives in their pockets that are more of a danger. '
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'should everyone have to carry a legal holster for any said weapon though? my hoodies got pockets'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'and that's fair point. my mum has a purse with a holster. but that doesn't change that people freak the fuck out about shit when it's legal to walk down the street with a gun.'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'ive seen how well most folks deal with tomagotchi, u.  those kids? doomed.'
T3/r7/2022-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'bare gat in your pocket is a good way to blast yourself - i say, more power to you, m.'
T3/r7/2022-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'am I the asshole if someone uses slang I don't understand and they fail to communicate an idea to me?'
T3/r7/2022-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'failed to communicate, or failed to comprehend?'
T3/r7/2022-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'I can se the failure to comprehend, but in this I mean very much that someone uses a fully unknown.'
T3/r7/2022-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'often, i communicate ideas well but also often do many people not comprehend well?'
T3/r7/2022-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i'd need more context :)'
T3/r7/2022-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'Like if someone said 'quit being fuzzy' ok what the fuck does that mean without contexts'
T3/r7/2022-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i would ask them to please define fuzzy'
T3/r7/2022-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'I tried and they got mad. I solidly fail at ppling.'
T3/r7/2022-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'is this a curse channel>'
T3/r7/2022-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i dont want to get banned for swearing on non-curse channels through abreviations even'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'hi'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i tend to restrict myself of fear of being banned...but i have an honest question which i feel deserves an honest answer...if anyone can?'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'it would behoove oneselve to assume one couldnt talk about anything, right?'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'how much of a debate would it be to say than men and women are not equal people?'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'That's a pretty meaty debate.'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'please explain'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'i think it depends on what you mean by "equal", those are pretty obviously 2 different things'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'Well there are plenty of points both for and against them being equal, so lots of content.'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'in of itself, the definition of the word equal was implicit of the argument...specifically'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'Equal does mean equal, but in what context?'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i was asking where its wrong'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'ok, full stop'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'Because if you're talking about powerlifting, women are definitely not equal.'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i have a better frame of talking'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'so, would you define yourself as a feminist?'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'I don't like labels.'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'fine, me either'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'a man is equal to a woman in that they're both homosapien. a pyranees is equal to a dachshund in that they're both canine'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'would you agree women ought to have equality of opportunity?'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'but all of those things are pretty different'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'I believe that the best candidate for a position should receive the position.'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'you didnt answer my question'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'I did, though.'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'not really..'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'soloran, not that it generally matters...but i guess it does now? do you identiFY as a male or female?'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'I'm a male drow venomist.'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'fine, so im curious'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'why do you automatically defend a feminine perspective, without contect?'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'Can you refrase that?  Not sure I'm grasping your question.'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'rephrase*'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'please read debate -h, and then try again...its there...'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'I'm following the conversation, just that particular question I'm not clear on.'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'then please try read it again...my question and defnitions were explicit...'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'I don't know what you mean by I automatically defend a feminine perspective?'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'ok'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'i wont ask again a third time, thank you for trying :)'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Smoloran Soloran: 'Cheers, I guess.'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'i have a controversial question'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: '.. nah. its too much even for this channel'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'its about cows + morphine + holding breath + overdose + suicide instead slaughter'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'but i wont ask it. because its christmas time'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'i think he early gray hair and cancer happens because of stuff we're supposed to do. against our will.'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'Godfather 3 is still an amazing film'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'I've never seen any of them.'
T3/r7/2022-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dein Untergang: 'does one have a really dope longcut scene through a restaurant?'
T3/r7/2022-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'what's worse? speaking figuratively often, or literally often?'
T3/r7/2022-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'honest question'
T3/r7/2022-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'usually the problem is that you are speaking, full stop.  most folks would look alot less foolish if they took more chances to keep their traps shut :p'
T3/r7/2022-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'when you read a book or watch a movie. or read a newspaper. where does the info go'
T3/r7/2022-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'into an empty braincell?'
T3/r7/2022-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'into a cave that you'll randomly access like 20 years later and confuse the hell out of folks '
T3/r7/2022-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'wait'
T3/r7/2022-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'the bigger question is'
T3/r7/2022-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'whats for dinner'
T3/r7/2022-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'if the absorbed stuff becomes part of our personality. should we be careful?'
T3/r7/2022-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'we've already trained Fuel to be Fuel, next step is V2.0'
T3/r7/2022-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'does it become our personality? and shoudl we be careful?'
T3/r7/2022-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'at this point, your personality is fairly well established jijal'
T3/r7/2022-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'yeah. i feel weird most of the time. thanks to internet shir i think'
T3/r7/2022-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'personality is a function of upbringing'
T3/r7/2022-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'shit*'
T3/r7/2022-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaury: 'that doesnt mean you cant learn'
T3/r7/2022-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'we were talking. i said "well, people do change". and my 70 years old coworker said "no, they dont"'
T3/r7/2022-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'do they then? or don't they?'
T3/r7/2022-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ULTRATURBO Fuel: 'its about to be a new year. wanna believe in change or not?'
T3/r7/2022-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'we've already trained Fuel to be Fuel, next step is V2.0h'
T3/r7/2022-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MAMBO! Mushambo: 'covfefe '
T3/r7/2022-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'people _can_ change, but are very resistant.  it takes some pretty intense personal experience to make it  happen.'