T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: i keep getting this error: Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error. Anyone know where invmon is supposed to be? I'm using Durel's inventory management plugin...
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if it had a previous error it would have displayed an error message
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: can you scroll back to find it?
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: either way you need to reload any plugin that errors for it to start working again
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: ok i will try to reload all the plugins by logging out, closing my client, and logging back in
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: restarting mushclient also works
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: or just do dinv reload
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish raises an eyebrow at Not Brawny Bronnie's weird actions.
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: ok lets try dinv reload first
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what does dinv reload do?
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: reloads it
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: so it made a backup and reloaded it, but as soon as i drop an item i get the same error message with no other information about why
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: maybe i actually dont have that trigger in my plugins for some reason... but now i will try reloading the client, see ya soon! :D
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: dinv reload is unlikely to work
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: usually works for me when dinv gets an error, but I haven't had that specific error
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: okie doke im back
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: hmm no error messages now... welp i guess the ol turn it off and on again solved it
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: sorry to bother, happy new year!
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: ohhh nevermind i found the error again
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: it says Reason: processing trigger "invmon" when matching line: "{invmon}5,2778761680,2135646970,-1"
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: Cannot serialize nil
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: and then it has the stack traceback
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: well thats more than i had before to go on, i'll figure it out later when i have more time i guess, thanks for the guidance on how to get the error message.
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: hmm it occurs when i remove a potion from my bag... guess i wont do that then for now haha
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fimbulthul Tech: can someone tell me why does my description ascii art get ripped apart? 
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: are there supposed to be spaces in the front? are they getting stripped out? 
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i'd be inclined to blame whatever quantum mystics are.
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: the @ sign will always look for a color code so you need to double them up
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fimbulthul Tech: thanks i overlooked the spaces :)
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: new year new mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: There's no way to set the Communication Log to capture messages sent to certain channels but not save them to your log file, right?
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: there's no option to log only certain channels, no
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I mean, correct, not no
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the window will log everything that goes to it
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: will using your mushclient increase the opportunity of getting laid?
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: probably
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: awesome
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it's worked well for me
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: where you think all these crazy kids running around came from
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I used to get a lot of thirst comments right around the time I started working on client stuff. I don't think that's a coincidence.
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Useful Hadar stretches luxuriously. Kinda makes you want to, doesn't it?
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: wow
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I made a simple tintin plugin and it worked on the first time!
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but why
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: This has never happened to me.
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Because I can't for the life of me get SSH to work on Mush
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And this works for me ok.
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i was thinking of running a CLI client so i did not have to reconfigure the KDE on my server to keep myself logged in
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: KDE?
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: K Desktop Environment, basically gives me access to more then just CLI, gives me a whole desktop
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: I have tinyfugue mudlclient w/ tmux on an S905 amlogic Android box running Armbian .
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i run minecraft servers on this server lol, its my "gaming server"
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: I tried that here too... on an Android box.... not so pretty lol.
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: It wasn't a matter of should... but rather could.
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: so you should have 'just' enough power to run a cli mud client on your 'gam
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: gaming server
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: ^$ locks a trigger string to the start of the line, correct?
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ^ is for the start
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: $ is for end of string
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: is there some plugin to manage weapon changing (excluding dinv)?
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Yerald: only for regex patterns
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: non-regex patterns are already locked
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Zensch: what's wrong with dinv?
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: thats what I get for making a loop without knowing it.
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: Thank you for booting me. I didn't mean to make that loop.
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it happens to the best of us
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beira Tech: i bought a chaos portal off of someone a while ago, but now when i try to us it, it says "the chaos portal seems to malfunction". is there a way to make it work again?
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: are you using it during gq's?
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: You're in a global quest.
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: regular chaos portals are not allowed during gqs
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beira Tech: no... just normally. it says it goes to kerofk
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is it owned by you?
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Pretty sure the malfunction error message only shows during global quests.
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beira Tech: "Owned by:Beira"
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah can't use chaos portals while you are in a global quest
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: unless its  a golden portal
T3/r7/2023-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beira Tech: maybe i was... ok... thanks
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: oh man so proud of myself, i fixed a bug i was experiencing in a plugin!
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: in the mushclient gui editor for aliases/triggers, is it possible to comment out part of an alias/trigger? or must you delete it
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: i know if i script it i could add comments for sure
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: anyone have this issue with Bast's weaponswitcher Executing plugin Aardwolf_WeaponSwitch sub onwearlocchange, [string "Plugin: Aardwolf_WeaponSwitch"]:231: attempt to index a nil value
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: can't seem to resolve it..
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: haven't tried any of Basts cause I always heard it didn't play well with some other plugins. I think dinv can switch weapons out though if you can't fix Basts
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: like for disarms?
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: I just made a trigger for disarm to rewield. 
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: yeah, i guess that works in a pinch.
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: for my sh weapon i added that noremove flag to save the hassle. If you don't change it out often you could always curse it to
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: how do i exclude everything infront of a certain word again with regex?
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: i'm not sure, all i have is a link to a tool that you might be able to figure out.
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: (.*)certain_word
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: ty
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: \\\_,_,matched = string.find("this is test line with extra word", "(.*)word"); Note(matched)
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycho! Dillon Tech: anyone know of a site that has the conwin plugin?
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: is it possible to adjust how many wrong steps my mapper makes before the path is cancelled?
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gorsk bursts into tears.
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: You should just fix whatever is making your mapper misstep in the first place.
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the mapper sends the steps as a single long run for philosophical reasons
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Doesn't the mud itself handle run-cancellations?
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Giddorah: yes
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the mapper intentionally does not send one move at a time
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: maybe today I'll write up a post about why that I can point people to
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fimbulthul Tech: hey, im considering to purchase a wwan card for my trusty thinkpad to play outside and on the go. does anyone know how much data aardwolf needs per hour? im using tt++ on linux terminal.  
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: maybe 1mb per hour from channels and stuff?
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: active play would be more
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fimbulthul Tech: thanks fiendish
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: find someone using mushclient who matches your gameplay and ask them to look at Game->Configure->Info
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fimbulthul Tech: ill try :)
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the Input/Output section will show bytes received and sent
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: i'm at about 25mb after 3 hours of pupping and epics
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: if that helps
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fimbulthul Tech: thanks that helps alot
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: im at 22kb idling for 7 minutes
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ocho Ocho Ocho throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fimbulthul Tech: thank you all :)
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fimbulthul Tech: found a nice provider with 200mb free/month so i dont have to spend anything for playing outside sometimes.
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: lol nice
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fimbulthul Tech: i think 200mb will get me through the month :D
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fimbulthul Tech: short update: found a way to measure data volume with vnstat. aardwolf idle took 510 KiB in one hour on tt++/linux
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: apparently ChatGPT knows what MUSHClient is and thinks it can writes scripts for it. Gave it some prompts and it doesn't look too good so far, but might have some promise, especially if given some working examples
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: hi, is there a way to call out an aliases to show what it does without actually using the aliases?
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: is there a way to reset mushclient to default?
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: maybe reinstall a fresh one in diff directory
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What was the command for setting a custom sound effect for a certain event in spset again? And what's the command for the spset help file?
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: sphelp
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2023-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: WHat the... I turned off the spset sound effect for level_up_sh but am still getting the sound effect when I pup. Or is that the sound effect for going from level 200 to SH? What is the actual sound effective for pupping?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: #alias {aliasName} {aliasOutput} creates the alias - is there a way to call out the alias (aliasName) from the command prompt?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what do you mean "call out"?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: to check what the alias is
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: usually it would be #aliasName but mush doesnt output that
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what do you mean "usually"?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: other clients, like cmud
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so one other client?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: wintin
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: but is there a way to check what the alias is from the command prompt?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: do you mean check what it will do?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: yea
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you can invoke any script function from the command line using the script prefix \\\
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=GetAliasInfo
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Did the ecal plugin just break for anyone else?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: ofc Kers broke it :)
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: r2242 out now
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: thanks Fiendish
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Apparently there is a Comic Sans Mono font that you can use, if you so desire.
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh my. I might have to use this font now for giggles.
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Though mono is... still off.
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: is there a good way to get rid of older electronics that's worth the time/fee (i.e., im not going to post office b/c i sold something for 10$ on ebay) 
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: here we can turn up to five at a time in to an electronics store that does it
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: i'd post as free on craigslist but i don't think kiddos these days have any interest in 6 year old laptops, their phones are more powerful
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Might not get kiddos, but there are some people who will use it for servers and whatnot.
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: better that than sitting in a closet unconnected
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: if i have %1, %2, %3 and more, is there a way to cycle through them without writing each on its own line?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In an alias? Trigger?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: trigger
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: gorsk, are you asking about a for loop?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: From a plugin or client?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i have a list of immunities and i want to write them out to screen without doing if %1~='' then Note
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Put them into a table and loop through the table.
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: yes, but how?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: immunities = {"air", "physical", "bash", "slash", "magic"} for _,v in ipairs(immunities) do print(v) end
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Reyn Tech: is there a way to output info directly to the commlog rather than doing so through a channel? ie gtell, say, or even the "Tracker" channel ?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Reyn Tech: the latter approach works, but if i stack commands then it delays those messages. trying to think of a way to avoid that issue
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can, yes, using storeFromOutside from the plugin.
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Reyn Tech: ooooooo
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Reyn Tech: ok yes that looks like exactly it. TY!
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Yarn Queen Reyn.
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Crowley: I use this for my terminals and in vscode https://www.dafont.com/pointfree.font
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it's an excellent font for programming in
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: very comfortable on the eyes
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at 1337 H4x0r Fiendish.
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I think pointfree is the best monospace comic sans variants. I don't like comic mono.
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I was just looking at Comic Sans because a clannie was talking about using Comic Sans and being too narrow.
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spellup Roninleader Tech: speaking of fonts, how do you upload new fonts to mush?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you really shouldn't. you should add the font to your system
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spellup Roninleader Tech: well how do I do that?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: install them to your computer and they should be accessible in mush
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: windows? download, right click, install font, or something like that
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spellup Roninleader Tech: mac
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: google.com then heh
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Roninleader: double click the font on a mac
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: then click install or whatever
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: technically you can put the font file in the mushclient folder, but that is actually not available to the main output during world load. it's a minor detail, but it's why setting Dina as your main output font doesn't work right if you don't install it to the system
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it will look like it works until the next time you restart mushclient
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spellup Roninleader Tech: insteresting. I've never actually had to install a font on a system before. Now I know about my font book. :D thanks guys
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Unrelated, I'm trying to decide if there's a better way to persist the new "help search" highlights across multiple helpfile viewings than adding a "clear highlights" right-click menu entry on the miniwindow
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: thoughts welcome
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: right now the search term is cleared after one helpfile
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spellup Roninleader Tech: ok I've downloaded and installed two new fonts but neither of them show up as choices in mush fonts
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: might have to relaunch mush
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spellup Roninleader Tech: ok. its probably about time I did that anyways
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fimbulthul Tech: does anyone know how to use spaces in ascii art for the player description? 
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: put a color like @w    then your art
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fimbulthul Tech: for every line?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: if you need preceding spaces, yeah
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fimbulthul Tech: ok ill try it. thanks
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is ecal list still compeltely broken?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: what's ecal list
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: ecal is a plugin for epic schedules
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: by tallimos i think?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I believe so.
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And unfortunately, Tallimos hasn't been on in 6 months.
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What is "broken" by it?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: it works for me
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yuna's a special case. Always finds a way to break something.
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley glares at Summoner Yuna.
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: sometimes a malformed epic board subject breaks it
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: usually "ecal reset" fixes, and if not, a reinstallation of ecal does. once the subject is fixed :P
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Honestly, should just be a group collaborative calendar with certain people who can modify it.
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: thatd be nice
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: oh it's usually a malformed subject from one of the usual epic leaders
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: is there a command to add blank spaces to the end of a string?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In Lua. "string" .. string.rep(" ", 5)
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: tyvm :)
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can write a 'padright' function to do that very thing.
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: function padright(str, pat, num) return str .. string.rep(pat, num) end -- something like that.
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Then you can do: padright("testing", " ", 10)
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or you can use string.format.
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: String.format is usually a better option as it'll allow you to keep an equal number of characters in a column.
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: string.format("%-20s", "string") -- that'll create a space of 20 characters, and "string" will take up 6 of them, leaving 14 spaces after.
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: anyone have opinions on thermal label printers?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: I've used Dymos but they're starting to require proprietary labels and I'm not into that
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: strip labels or shipping labels?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if strip labels, I have a Brother PT-D210 I really like
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: and it's quite cheap
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: well it was at the time. I guess nobody has them in stock anymore because it's old
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: I'm looking for something for print jobs
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that doesn't really answer the question about what kind of label you want to print
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: low/med volume, 10-50 prints per day
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: bah I closed my notes and dont feel like finding them. I think it was like 1 1/4" x 3" ish address label
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: does it need to do ZPL?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: nope
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: I don't think at least. I believe it processes as a normal Windows print job
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: my sister uses a rollo printer for her labels
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: says its alright, but I dunno much more about it
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: think she gets shipping labels from ups for free or something too
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: if I can get something non-Dymo to print on labels like this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GJEVSFQ I'll be happy
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: I'm not sure if Rollo does labels like that, but I'm coming at this from a place of ignorance
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: no clue
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: try asking in a subreddit that deals with that kinda thing like ebay/aliexpress/etsy
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: those folks would know prolly
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh, address labels
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: I might try the subreddits
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: if I can use these labels I don't have to change my software, if I have to change label sizes I might have to pay someone to rewrite a thing for me and I dont want to do that
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Zebra would do that
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: and they're like an industry standard
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: not necessarily on presaparated labels though. how important are those round corners?
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I mean, idk, it probably would work on that too
T3/r7/2023-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycho! Dillon Tech: anyone know who wrote the conwin plugin?
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycho! Dillon Tech: script or whatever
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: Conwin? I've not heard of it.  I know of a CONW consider plugin though.
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycho! Dillon Tech: think we speaking about the same thing
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycho! Dillon Tech: would you be so kind to share it :)
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: how do i make the aard layout work ? i added require "themed_miniwindows" | my_window = ThemedBasicWindow("testwindow", 100, 100, 200, 150, " to a plugin and it goes back to the saved aard layout for a second and bounces back to its current location.
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i opend mush on on a new laptop using good drive, and some of the display boxes (group/chat) is so far down i can't access the resize button. any easy fixes ? 
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: depends on if it's using fiendish's miniwindows or not. aard layout reset should bring most of them to top left corner
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: nvm , got it to cooperate with reset to defaults 
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: thanks annsett!
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Is there a way to make the mapper prefer bounceportal over bouncerecall?
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Like if you can both portal and recall in a room I want it to prefer portal
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: don't suppose anybody has a fancy tool for simulating gmcp data while testing plugins
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: im sure someone does, whether theyre on or not is another dtory
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: this has been a week for needing to be hyperspecific with my language. does anybody presently reading the tech channel have a tool or method for simulating gmcp data that they would be willing to share
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: man socials are never what i expect 'em to be
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: any suggestions for simulating gmcp data for plugin testing
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: is there a way to pass lua tables as result from CallPlugin, without serializing em to string in called function first?
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Anssett: ooh, that's a good question. simulating gmcp data is tricky, but you should be able to use CallPlugin to invoke OnPluginTelnetSubnegotiation inside the GMCP handler plugin, so that you'd be acting like Aardwolf sending some GMCP data to that function directly.
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Athlau: no
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: CallPlugin doesn't do the conversion for you automatically. Technically it could, it just doesn't.
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: hrmph. was really hoping for a magic hidden setting somewhere haha. i'll consider that solution but i'm already in over my head :D
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: ty though! i figured it'd be either trivial or obnoxious
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Whenever you try it out, I also answer specific implementation questions.
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett nods.
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: another q then... i can just try but haven't yet, perhaps you know right away: if I pass a function as one of CallPlugin arguments and then called plugin will try to use that function as call back after some wait... would it crash everything or would it be actually called and if it will what context will it have? plugin or original CallPlugin caller?
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: Fiendish could u add a way to export or share cexits?
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: gaballon there're plugins for that already ... at least i've seen one but haven't tried that
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: havent seen a plugin for that
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Is there any problem with throwing mushclient in dropbox or something and just running it from there?
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i run mine from onedrive
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: would be nice to sync it between it laptop and desktop
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: cool
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it gives file access errors occasionally
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: both onedrive and mushclient get cranky if the other wins when they want the file
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: but *knock on wood* it works for me so far, been using onedrive for oh ... 4-5 mos at least
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Athlau: to pass a function as a callback, you'd need to pass the function's _name_ and the calling plugin's ID to the other plugin, then the other plugin could use CallPlugin back. It should work as long as you don't infinitely loop.
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: ooo, so that other plugin could call it through callplugin, gotcha. thanks!
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: would have to
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: well...technically it you could serialize the function body itself, but...
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: no no no :)
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: don't want to duplicate dinv's identify code once again like many plugins do, so just want to get those results back
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anyway, if I wanted to get two plugins to call each other, I'd make them callplugin->callplugin
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but there's also https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?lua=string.dump
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Gaballon: why?
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i had to query the db to see the full cexit i already made
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: mapper cexits here only shows the first x characters
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: does it show in mapper thisroom?
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: (if you're in the right room I guess)
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: oh it does show the full text in thisroom
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: if you mapper showroom then mapper thisroom, that should work
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gaballon nods.
T3/r7/2023-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: is fiendish still here
T3/r7/2023-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: how do i make the aard layout work ? i added require "themed_miniwindows" | my_window = ThemedBasicWindow("testwindow", 100, 100, 200, 150, " to a plugin 
T3/r7/2023-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: if i wanted to adjust the display color of room's note from mapper, what file do i edit? 
T3/r7/2023-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I think that's just "Note"'s color in general.
T3/r7/2023-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So you can change the mapper file and change "Note" to "ColourNote"
T3/r7/2023-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes Sir! Trurien Tech: Odd, this timezone seems to have the highest concentration of tintin users I've noticed. We're the second most popular behind Aard MUSH :P
T3/r7/2023-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anyone get an error from my latest installer?
T3/r7/2023-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: not i
T3/r7/2023-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: latest?
T3/r7/2023-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: checkversion says i'm up to date unless there's something special
T3/r7/2023-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm, let me try installing it.
T3/r7/2023-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: r2242 is the latest, so...
T3/r7/2023-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I did not get an error.
T3/r7/2023-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Windows 10 if it matters.
T3/r7/2023-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: he's prolly on Vista, must be the problem
T3/r7/2023-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers with Ralyn about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2023-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: how can a user account never used, with a username of characters i dont even know how to make on my keyboard, with a 16 char unique generated by LastPass ... be considered at risk, BY lastpass? error does not compute
T3/r7/2023-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: <side question> is lastpass compromised?
T3/r7/2023-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: no, the CEO tells me the problem is users' poor password hygiene. fault on me :-(
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there a way to purge a room from mapper without being in it?
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can just do "mapper show <room id>" then right click and delete
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not currently.
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, other than Trachx's suggestion.
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It's a -1 room.
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Then no.
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Ugh, I really don't want to have to purge the entire zone and redo it due to 1 single goal-only room.
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: How would you expect to be able to purge it remotely, anyway, if it has -1 for the ID?
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The ability to search for rooms by -1.
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Why would you need to purge the room if it's just a goal-only room?
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Because it's got an identical name to a regular room and it gets listed first by mapper.
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So go/nx doesn't work.
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there a way to bulk-add cexits from afar, then?
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I suppose you can open up the database and delete the offending room.
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: why how come a uniquely generated 17 char password for a non-essential site (movie recs) is shown to be "at risk" by LastPass when the login was created after I'd changed my master? I was assured that the only risk was MY fault for having poor password hygiene (false)
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: they were probably hacked again :P
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: i'd add 2FA but i'd be worried their incompetence would somehow compromise the usb key
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: TiL about the 'gamestat' command by typoing the gamet command
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Plenty of commands out there.
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: For instance, do you know about topspells, a list of the 100 most used spells?
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: desolation baby
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Neclord tapes a picture over Aardwolf, then paints "WoW" on it.
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Neclord :|
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: that was not the right emote
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: I did not
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Neclord is agreeing with that (Aleister) Crowley person again...
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: Any other cool stat commands like that?
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: I'm def a data nerd
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zathrus Tech: could check out help rank
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: rank is something I've been all up in for a while now
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: but gamestat is totally new to me
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: definitely a really cool command
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm assuming you know about mobdeaths and mobkills.
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: of course
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: and areadeaths/areakills
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: domains, clients...
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: lastkills
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: About all the 'data' ones, really.
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: oh interesting
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: domains and clients is really interesting
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly.
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: what do Commercial and Network mean?
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: "commercial" "network" "ARPA" "Canada" wat
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: .com and .net prob
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Possibly.
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: Interesting...
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: I don't really understand that data 
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: While I get how the location is determined
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: On domains? Those are the domains connected to Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: Yeah, but I am connected from an IP address - there should be no domain name associated with my connection
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: so anyone being associated with .com or .net - I don't really get
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: there is from your isp at the very least
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: hrmm...
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Probably all based on DNS resolution.
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: but when you did my IP, it does not directly correlate with a hostname
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: 216.228.112.22.         0       IN      A       216.228.112.22
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: it's def associated with a domain registrar
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: and the owner of my company
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: oh wait
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: I was wrong
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: I was going about it incorrectly
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: there is a domain name associated with this IP
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: because I'm on VPN
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Neclord falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: I wonder if I would no longer be counted as part of a domain if I switched to my house IP
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: what was their reasoning for not wanting you to use your own rig?
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley peers intently at Neclord.
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: what is the help command for SND again?
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: xhelp
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: ahh xhelp
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: xhelp
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: xhelp
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neclord Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: ww help
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ogreskull winks suggestively.
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: Fiendish, you around? 
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: an idea why it thinks I'm blind? https://imgur.com/a/krmulSK
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: any* 
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: wearing that blind item from 9hells?
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i'm not
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: that was my best guess, sorry :(
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: apparently the IT trtick of "did you try turning it off and on again" worked. 
T3/r7/2023-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: thanks wrilley and negader for coming to assist. 
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'm around now
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: she restarted mush, and problem was fixed
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: sure, but I still need to know why it happened
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: oh hey 
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: yea h ihave no idea what caused it. 
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i noticed all night that it was happening though - in all areas 
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: so i would runto an area for a quest, and when the first room wasn't my q mob, and i tried 'nx' or 'mn" which ismy alias for... uh one second 
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: er mm 'mapper next" it would recall me out, and have me start the runto all over again. 
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i thought i was imaginging things, plus i was doing trivia, soi wasn't focused, but i realized in soh that there was an issue. 
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: it was doing the same thing there - trying to use a portal to exit soh2 and then use the portal to get back in. that's when i realized i was getting thes blind messages i shared
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: the only thing that's changed recently is i started using google drive as my save location - so i can easily swap between computers. 
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: any known instances of this causing problems with mush? 
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ehhhh yes but
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: not like this
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if it happens again, check aflags and send it to me
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: as far as I can tell, it shouldn't be possible for this to happen without you having some kind of blindness active, but that just makes it a day ending in Y
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hopefully it never happens again. if it does, your aflags output will help
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: uh, probably
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Is there a way to add a delay or something ina custom exit?  There's a pause in this kobaloi exit and it breaks my runs
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: newp
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Maybe I can just put in a bunch of looks or something
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: do like d;;wait(2) or however many seconds you need
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: look at mapper help exits, you can use wait(N) in your cexit
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: awesome thanks all
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: It started mildly annoying and is becoming more and more infuriating
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Works great, thanks again
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It was 65 Bucks
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliera Tech: I opened a new tab on Chrome to go to youtube, and bitdefender said that chrome had tried to open a suspicious connection to aardmud.org. Anyone know what that is?
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: its odd SnD doesn't know a cp mob is in the room i'm standing in, but if i use the SnD kill target alias it works
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: i've seen the reverse of that too
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: well the reverse just means you need to set the kw
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: well... kk didn't work.
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: and kw was set
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: perhaps thats no scan mobs but that means its not using the mob list when i walk in it makes its one with scan
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: have to ask Crowely abotu that
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: even noscan can be attacked with kk..
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yes i know
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: its just a quirk of getting the mob list with scan instead of just useing the mob list that is egenrated when you walk into the room
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: I might suggest he use consider instead of scan and only scan if the mob doesn't show up in consider
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: anyone know if there is an option in SnD to consider the target room?
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: check xhelp. go through each
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah i don
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah i don't see anything
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: doesn
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: doesn't mean i didn't miss it there is alot of help files
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: perhaps i put that in the suggestion box too  :)
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: Crowley's gonna hate me
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: is there a way to disable a trackpad on a laptop, I have a mouse attached but I keep accidentally brushing the trackpad...
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: yes.. but idk how to do it.. I had to call the manufacturer to get that assistance.
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searaven Tech: Windows or Mac?
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: windows
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searaven Tech: You should be able to search for "touchpad" and (Windows 11) there's an option to turn it off.
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: kk
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searaven Tech: It's under Bluetooth &Devices for me
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: You are very right, with windows 11 I searched touchpad settings and it's just a toggle.
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searaven Tech: Finally! A question on Aardwolf I could finally answer ... :)
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Thanks!  I will now not have to deal with hitting it while I try to type.
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: does the screen turn black once in awhile and come back? mush client window (not monitor)
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: oh i get that too
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: does? I couldn't say. does for me? no.
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searaven Tech: I get that too occasionally
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: any workaround?
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: best workaround is to take a screenshot when it happens and send it to me
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: as soon as i put in anything even just hit enter it redraws
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: ahhh ok, i'll try to get the screen shot
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: yea just hitting enter or something comes back to normal
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searaven Tech: Looks like a weird main window refresh issue - goes black, then any activity causes it to redraw (as Galoth said.)  Pretty hard to capture
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I've never seen it.
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: I have that happen every now and then too
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: when does it happen?
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: what's the default buffer size and can we make it more?
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searaven Tech: I haven't been able to spot a pattern...I haven't been able to reliably repro it.
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: 9999 lines I think, and yes
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: i'm using your screen split plugin but sometimes it bugs out and unsplits the screen.. is it because of my buffer size?
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I don't think so
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what's your buffer size set to?
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: it was default 9999 but i just changed it to 500,000
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: the autocopy (when highlighting) is still buggy, correct? from nick's post
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if it were related to your buffer size I think you'd be able to force it to happen by reaching capacity
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: buggy in what way?
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: like... if i try to highlight multiple lines, it would give me an error
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: let me put it back on and get that error message
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: "cannot open the clipboard"
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: i'm just highlight random stuff going up from the main screen
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: highlighting*
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: do you still get an error if you disable that feature and manually Ctrl+C the highlighted part?
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: i do not
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: wait... you don't get that error message?
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I don't use that option
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I don't see the point
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: i guess just a short cut instaed of hitting ctrl+C
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anyway, no I do not get that error
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: !
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but also I use Wine on macOS
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: not windows
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mobslayer Marauder Tech: oh...
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Explains a lot about you Fiend!
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: MVVM >> your architecture. Change my mind!
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ?
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Ever dabbled in WPF framework Fiend?
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: ah, n/m then.
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: automatic map db backups just saved my butt. thanks Fiendish
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that's why they're there
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: is there a wait/pause built into the command line?
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: explain?
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: like in cexits we can wait(x)
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: can that be done from command line too
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: depends
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: there's the DoAfter and DoAfterSpecial script functions that you can access if you start your command with the \\\ script prefix
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: hmm thats true
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: there's also the speedwalk prefix that you can activate and use to send commands with some configurable delay between each
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: that may work
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it's configurable under Input->Commands
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: er, Game->Configure->Commands
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: how's my favorite tablet project going?
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i switched to making it using autohotkey
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: aww
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: can do cool stuff with ahk guis
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilasuar Tech: Is anyone familiar with Mudlet?
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: sorry no, I only know mushclient
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: can i use dinv to get portals out of a bag within a level range, ex. all portal type items between level 1 - 30?
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Reyn Tech: dinv help query should give you everything
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: oh my gosh, it does, thanks!
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Reyn Tech: so dinv get {query}
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: yeah, the help section you mentioned is amazingly informative thank you!
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Reyn Tech: and "dinv help get" for even more fun reading, if you want to limit that to a single bag rather than your entire inventory
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: oooh neat! thanks!
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: i love reading the docs haha
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: its like super powers
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Reyn Tech: dinv helpfiles are ... extensive
T3/r7/2023-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Busta Rhymes thanks Yarn Queen Reyn heartily.
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Reyn Tech: is there a way to move INFO to a new tab in the commlog and remove it from the main tab? I can echo INFO messages to new tab, but i cant seem to remove INFO - and _only_ INFO - from the main tab
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Its a Non-Channel Capture, you verify its not selected in there?
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Reyn Tech: how can I deselect a single channel
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Hold control and click
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Reyn Tech: ta-daaa! that's it, ty
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Yep! :)
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: man dinv is so good
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Equipment analysis of "paladin":  95% ,    DINV Analysis results (4 minutes, 7 seconds): timeout
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is it possible to increase that timeout ?
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: how can I tell DINV plugin to ignore some item? it seems that processing item: Orbury Fantasy Series Collector's Card  causes dinv errors
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: PUt it in a bag and dinv ignore the bag.
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: dinv help ignore
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: dinv ignore [on | off | list] <keyring | container relative name>
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: tyvm!
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is there somewhere dinv tutorial for dummies ?
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, there's all the help files, which take up about 10k lines of the 22k line code.
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I've noticed it has extended help, that is why I am looking for tutorial :P
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Don't think there's really one out, though Stormwind was hoping to get something like that going.
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: how can i change the commands of the numpad using alias?
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can, yes.
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: is it accelerator, crowley? 
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That would be correct.
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just make sure you call the right key. I believe they are all: Numpad#
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: i tried NumPad0 didnt work
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: Accelerator("Numpad7", "cast invis")
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: thats mine
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's because Lua is finicky with case. You have NumPad, not Numpad.
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: thanks Selitos and Crowley. I will try it!
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: i have pkdeaths turned on, but my "info" tab only captures level and pups. how come?
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: i used to have them displayed. i must have removed it by accident
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: thunderbird vs. vivaldi mail vs. any other desktop linux rec?
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliera Tech: what do you do when snd gives you odd directions to a room that don't work at all? (an area I've explored)
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: SnD does not give you directions at all. It pulls it from whatever you have in your mapper database.
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: usually means that you have a bad cexit in mapper
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: or a bad xset mark in snd
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aliera goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: hey crowley any chance you could provide an option to con the room for cp instead of scna the room? it would be usfell for people that like to aoe
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: there is one?
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i thought.
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: also scan does not see noscan mobs
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliera Tech: i just read that one, it's xhelp xset nx, I think.
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: if con fails to see the mob in he room you could then scan
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: u can tell the plugin to scan or consider when you arrive
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: how?
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: smartscan ftw
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: could not find that in help files
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: xhelp xset nx
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: if i set it to con will it scan if con does not find the mob in the room?
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: nah
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: smartscan will scan and then con if not scanned though
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: as well as scan for other cp mobs on your list
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: smartscan ftw
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: is there a way to delete all cexits in a single area?
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: mapper hext exits
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: ?
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: only looks like it's for a room not an area or all of them.
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: thats what I thought.
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: there is a delete and purge
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: I only want to purge an area.. not the whole list.
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: oh yeah
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adara Tech: purgezone
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: was thinking along those lines Adara... works for where I am, but not on larger areas I think.
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adara Tech: no there is purgeroom and purgezone, i think you're referring to purgeroom?
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adara Tech: mapper help utils
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: that works, but not what I was asking.
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adara Tech: mm sorry misread
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: no problem :D
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: sorry i'm sick
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: DINV Skipping queued safe commands: "eqdata": a request to quit is pending on the mud server
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: what have i done?
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: looks like dinv thinks you're trying to quit
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: How long before we start seeing ChatGPT scripts for aard?
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: is botted trolling against the rules? hmm
T3/r7/2023-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: I'd like to see to chatGPT scripts go against each other.
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malark Tech: maybe it's a stupid question. sorry for this. how can i update my mapper? because sometimes i enter manor area and speedwalk fails. i had no problem before.
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you need to find the room which fails your speedwalk and go there and do mapper purgeroom. (or you could purge whole area with mapper purgezone (area) but I wouldnt recommend this as you would have to map it fully again)
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: I know how to use gmcp to check what my pclass is, but how do I use it to check what my remort classes are?
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: specifically, how do I check if I have a psi remort?
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: looks like it's in the char.base table
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: https://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP#aard_char_base
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: that only gives pclass right?
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it has a "classes" that i'm assuming is all
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: otherwise why pluralize it
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: hmm let me check
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: (this is me reasoning, not me knowing)
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: ah yes
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: there's "class" for pclass and "classes"
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: "classes" is a list of numbers which correspond to the classes you have
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett nods.
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: is there a mapper or plugin function to add the room# to each room description?
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: iirc crowley has a standalone plugin to add it to the room name
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah though someone did
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: hrm don't see it on his github
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: maybe it was somebody else then hm
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: oh maybe i found it RnametoGMCP?
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Any dinv users around? I'm trying to figure out the interplay between dinv set and dinv analyze  or if there is any
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Like analyze does all this work to make per level sets, but then set seems like this completely separate thing. I would expect to be able to use the results analyze somehow
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: to my knowledge dinv set/analyze are not connected.  Dinv set is specifically when you want to guarantee a set of EQ to wear.  I could be wrong tho never use set personally.
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searaven Tech: You need to run analyze first in order to use set
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: set uses items analyze seems best for current level
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searaven Tech: +1 on Nuanse's answer
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you cannot use set without analyzing and determining what you have
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searaven Tech: As a followup, though, do you need to rerun analyze - or is dinv refresh enough?
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: The thing that confuses me is that I've been using set this entire time and just ran my first analyze
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: and it was working fine
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: so who knows lol
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searaven Tech: when you used set, what priority did you use?
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you had to run analyze when you started
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: I've never run an analyze..
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: mage priority
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Reyn Tech: no you don't ....
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searaven Tech: dinv help says "Note that the "dinv set ..." options
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searaven Tech: dinv help says "Note that the "dinv set ..." options automatically use all of your equipment when creating sets but we don't proactively create new sets for all 200 levels unless you explicitly request that via "dinv analyze create [name]".
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I guess analyze is the tool to use to identify gaps one might have in their equipment. Like using a level 41 pair of boots until 91 or whatever. And then set actually does the wearing
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searaven Tech: Yeah.  For instance, I use dinv usage to find unused equipement which definitely requires analyze to have run
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Cool thanks all, that helped :)
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: i'm using the mush client and i have the map in the mini window thingy, but it keeps showing up in my main windo evertytime i move into another room... can i make it si that it only shows in the miniwindow not the main?
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: idk what anyone else might say, but have you tried to reload your map lugins?
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Right click the minimap Liam and deselected 'Also show in output'
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: that is a mud setting, try reduce spam
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Right click minimap window -> 'Also Show Map in Main Output' 
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: thanks... that worked
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: can't remember the seting
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: i get a "{end running} at the end of my runto <area> is there a way to turn that off?
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I can't load this plugin that's in docx form. Is there something specific I need to do first before loading a .docx plugin in MUSH+
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: uh. get it the heck out of ms word for starters
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I have no idea how to do that. Just copy + paste from the word document to a txt file?
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i would hope so. you can try that and save it as an xml file but it needs to be structured properly
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: who the heck distributes plugins as docx
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Hey, docx is XML!  It's right in the name!
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yeeeees. but it is probably ont the right xml :P
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Huh, it worked. Open docx in Wordpad, copy into a new txt file.
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Nono, every XML can be treated just like every other XML, that's why it's the ultimate format that solves all problems.
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: is it really a .docx or did it just open in word because that got set as your default xml file prog
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It was a docx file.
T3/r7/2023-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: amazing
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: somehow my numpad0 doesn't work at all even though i entered the command in mush in the keypad settings. is there a way to fix it?
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Did you use Numpad0? Or numpad0?
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: i mean the keypad settings in mushclient, crowley.
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I just did \\\Accelerator("Numpad0", "smile") and it works fine.
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, in keypad settings, it's not working? Did you happen to have the box ticked about contents when control is held down?
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: i enter "hello" to "0" under the keypad settings in mush
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: no, but enable keypad keys is ticked
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And nothing happens when you push 0? Is numpad on? Do all your other numpad keys work as intended?
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Er, numlock*
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: yes.. all working fine except numpad0. weird
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: \\\require 'tprint' tprint(AcceleratorList()) --> Is Numpad0 listed there?
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: no its not. only pageup and pagedown, then ctrl+D and ctrl+P
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: only 4 lines
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I wonder if your Numpad0 actually works. Does it display 0 when in a notepad environment?
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i only see ctrl d and p when i run that as well and my numpad works juust fine
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I don't even see Ctrl+P. :( What does Ctrl+P do for you guys?
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: somehow it worked now.
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it's part of the l33tbin plugin i think
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, yeah.
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: prob other ways to register 'macros' or 'accelerators' or whatever that do not show in that list is my guess
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: glad we could get it working by talking about it des? :p
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: i think an alias messed it up
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's funny, I get people upset because apparently all that needs to be done is for me to touch something or think about something and it usually fixes itself immediately. At work, all my coworkers come to me complaining "My monitor doesn't work!" or "This isn't reading properly!" and when I touch it, it suddenly starts working again. My wife, when we first met, told me her windshield wipers didn't work properly and hadn't worked in a year. I got in the car, told her to turn on the wipers, and they magically worked, never to break again. :p
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's possible, Deswrath.
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yeah that's the curse of being a support type person
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i started telling people it's like taking the car to the mechanic, all of a sudden it's running fine
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: haha i know crowley. i used to repair phones and when the customers bring their faulty phone to me. it somehow isnt faulty anymore and the customer goes wild.
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: that analogy goes better than "the universe is random, what do youw ant from me?"
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: "next time, use your snipping tool to take a picture, because i can't fix something that you can't replicate and don't remember what the error said"
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm an "everything" type of person at work. Hell, just yesterday, my boss was having trouble with her Outlook signature. She's new to the position and was trying to set it up. Created a new email, no signature. I go there, check to make sure it's set, click "New email", and it popped up just fine. She looked at me and says, "I swear, it wasn't working before."
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley giggles at Deswrath's actions.
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Deswrath falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And it definitely is a curse. And I wholly agree, Anssett. I think people really should take screenshots (if able) when an error occurs. But nope... doesn't happen.
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i've had more success in "take a picture" than i have in "reboot before calling me"
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: i had customers travelling over an hour and find their faulty phones working as normal when they pass it to me.. i just give a blank stare back...
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: which file do i edit if i wanted to change the color/ display of room notes?
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: probably have to change something in mapper to use colournote instead of note
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i assume aard_GMCP_Mapper.xml
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: but this will probably summon the wrathful spirit of fiendish so be cautious :p
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: ok :P thanks anssett
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: how do you do a pause mid cexit?  wait(x)?
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: yes, but if your wait is more than 2 s (?) use cexit_wait before
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: so I can't do a wait(30) mid cexit?
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: i reckon max value in cexit_wait is 30
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: the idea is to pause mid cexit to cast knock or something like that.
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: the cexit_wait command sets the duration the cexit will wait before assessing if it's good / in a new room or not
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: so you can try it, sure
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: lol or do it the stupid way such as I just have the mapper queue up like 20 casts of a spell i don't know for that sandcastle lamp part
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: the cexit wait command limits how long the cexit is to wait before being created... not exactly what I'm asking.
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: you do both is the point
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: set the cexit_wait, then set a cexit with your wait(x) in it
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: oh, i already assumed to do that in the first place, but thanks for making sure I knew that.
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: under normal circumstances cexit is limited to 2s, if your wait is longer your cexit will fail or be in some other way broken
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: nod
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: correct.
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: give example what you want to do
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: I was mearly confirming what I half way understood.  thanks.
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: is there a way to prevent me from seeing a string of words? or gagging something?
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: does mush have any helpers for sending a POST request
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and converting table to json maybe
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i have this regex: ^test(\s\d+){1,}$
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: how do i get it to catch any number of numbers after test? it only captures the last number
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: for example, test 5 captures 5, that's fine, but test 5 6 captures 6 and not both 5 and 6
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: do you wanna split the numbers or does it not matter
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i want it to accept any amount of numbers
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: so test 5 or test 5 8 40 3 1 3
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why can't you do ^test (.*?)$
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it'll capture the numbers in group 1
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i wanted each number as a separate wildcard if thats possible
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ok so you do wanna split the numbers then
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yeah into a table of results
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: had to step out
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I dunno if you can do it that way but
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: depending on the use case, it's enough to grab all the numbers in a group, they'll be separated by a space
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then you can take that string and "split" it by space -- will put it in an array/table
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you can probably also do group within a group
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and you can also capture the space separated numbers and use another pattern to sort them
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: dont think it's necessary tho
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: roger, i can do that. i was hoping i could fix the regex to skip that step
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: there are ways but you need another constraint
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: prolly not thinking about it if split can do it in 1 line
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: for example if there will be finite amount of numbers, you can have optional groups that match the highest
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: gonna have undefined values if 6 out of 10 numbers, etc
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: sounds like splitting by spaces is easiest solution
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: smooth brain style always best
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: for ($_ in split($capture, " ")){ if(isInt($_)){table += $_}} or whatever it is in Lua
T3/r7/2023-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: smooth brain is best brain
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: using wait() in a cexit automatically changes the cexit_wait period to compensate
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you don't need to manually adjust it just because you're using waits
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Whiskey Tech: did they fix the double announcement, it seems to be working today
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Whiskey Tech: on discord
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: neat! i used to have some but i forgot them now haha
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish comforts Busta Rhymes.
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: this is a weird bug (happened twice but i couldnt replicate) - so i swap aard layout quite often. sometimes when i swap, my channels dont get echoed to the comms window, but only to the main window. the fix is by toggling out and back to the saved layout.
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: also, everytime i change saved layout, the comms window gets cleared. which i have no issue. but was it meant to be this way?
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: oh and that reminds me, do you think its feasible/worth it to mod the comm window with tabs for different channels? lik all the tells in one and so forth? i was thinking about taking a crack at it
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: It has that! Right-click :)
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: whoa!!
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: sweeeeeet! :D thanks Orphean!
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish thanks Orphean heartily.
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: macbeth: not meant to be that way, no
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: wait
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: macbeth: I think there's an easy fix for the second one though
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: give me a sec
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: yes sir. thanks!
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: aww man chat tabs is awesome
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish beams a smile at Busta Rhymes.
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: new update is building now, Macbeth
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: oh thanks fiendish! i thght u were gona give a quick fix like tell me which line to change lol
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'm not going to tell you to fix a bug in my plugin when I can just fix it
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: was it really a matter of one liner change?
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I already had the mechanism for storing the tab contents for theme changes. I just had to invoke it for layout changes as well
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: sounds good!
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i have an addition for u to gmcp mapper
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: uh huh
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i was hoping u could add a broadcast to findpath()
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: BroadcastPlugin(502, "found_paths = "..string.gsub(serialize.save_simple(path),"%s+"," "))
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: new installer is ready
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: r2244
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: don't I already broadcast?
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: the find does broadcast, but it also prints the results
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i wanted to capture results w/o printing out
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ah
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: uh
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'd probably accept a minor shuffle of those lines
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: shuffle which lines?
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the ones that broadcast
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: that func would still print results tho?
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: print lines print, broadcast lines broadcast :)
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: send me a PR proposing exactly where you think there should be a broadcast
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: fiendish, the new edits to layout works great. thanks a ton!
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go 1337 H4x0r Fiendish!!!  Busta Rhymes cheers him on.
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: would u rather have an optional arg in find to supress printing or a new btoadcast in findpath?
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I can't evaluate that without seeing it. just do something that feels good to give me a better sense of what you need
T3/r7/2023-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2023-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: having weird issues with the mapper cexit_wait. I can use it to successfully wait and set a cexit, but when it executes later the wait period is skipped
T3/r7/2023-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: anyone know what's going on?
T3/r7/2023-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: you have to add a wait(time) in the cexit
T3/r7/2023-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: cexit wait is for delay in the original input
T3/r7/2023-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: cexit_wait just tells mapper to wait while creating cexit
T3/r7/2023-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: wait(time) is the actual wait action
T3/r7/2023-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: that was it exactly. Thanks everyone. Didn't realize I had to set it twice like that
T3/r7/2023-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Reyn Tech: you don't
T3/r7/2023-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: well, "
T3/r7/2023-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Reyn Tech: board tech;note read 8193
T3/r7/2023-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: when setting a cexit with a wait, do I have to pre-empt it with mapper cexit_wait x, or can i just include it in the actual cexit commands?
T3/r7/2023-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: you do cexit wait
T3/r7/2023-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: perfect, thanks reyn
T3/r7/2023-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: then you do the cexit  command
T3/r7/2023-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: huh. i must have missed that note. 
T3/r7/2023-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Reyn Tech: tldr - if you add a wait(x) in the actual cexit, it also adjust the cexit_wait time by that same amount of time
T3/r7/2023-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Reyn Tech: there MAY still be instances where you need both, but there shouldn't be many
T3/r7/2023-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harvester Tech: anyone know the file name that has our aliases/triggers in mushclient?
T3/r7/2023-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: look for the mcl file in worlds, prob aardwolf.mcl by default
T3/r7/2023-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harvester Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2023-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone here a dynamodb warlord
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone here a dynamodb warlord
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilasuar Tech: is anyone familiar with mudlet?
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Some are. Not many use MUDlet, though.
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Preferred client usage is the Aardwolf MUSHclient package.
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilasuar Tech: I'm using it on my mac, but noexp turning itself on during campaigns 
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilasuar Tech: is there a way to run mushclient on mac? 
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: think theres an auto noexp on/off option
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: xset noexp <number>
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: might check otu mushclient using wine
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: quick reminder: mapper portal, when we set the level, we just need to set the item's level. the codes will take care of the tier consideration?
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: correct
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: tyvm
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: migth consider some of the portals like insanitaria if you are higher tier setting it higher
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, if you're using my SnD, you can turn noexp off/on based on if you want to campaign every level or not.
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: instant death level 1 :P
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: good point!
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: tp portals if the area is kind of dangerous too
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilasuar Tech: I believe the auto noexp on worked, I'll check out otu mushclient and wine
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: finger fiendish you can get mushclient there plus on his wiki there is explanation how to fix it with wine
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It will depend on which version of MacOS you are on, though.
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilasuar Tech: I've got some research to do thanks y'all!
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: i have alias' and variables set up for all my prtals... used "mapper portsal goto-aylor" (as an example of the garbage can) -- all the variables are correctly numbered with the "ID: <number>" but i logged in this morning and none of them are working... any ideas as to why?
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's a horrible alias, in my opinion, to have. You should have just a single alias (for example, mine is 'port *') that will get the appropriate portal. If I do: port aylorian, it gets the Aylorian portal out. That way, you're only changing one alias instead of 100, unless you have variables set for bags and whatnot. :p But as for your question, hmm.
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What's weird is that one of my state files reverted back to an empty one recently after a Windows update with no option to get a previous version. Was sad as it had some information in it I now have to redo.
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Reyn Tech: i have that problem frequently for some reason =( mush has just taught me to backup very, very regularly
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: Mr. Crowley... i have variables set up for each bag, each portal, and i have 1 alias that i use that says "goto-*" for the actual use if the portals. but i have a specific used alias's for the mapper thingy that uses the alias "goto-*" as the actual. 
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: i think my issue is that my variable for my @portal_container got messed up. it is working now
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: but thank you for the informtion... it did point me in the right direction for looking for the problem
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ah, that is much better, then. I generally expect that people have 100 aliases called "goto-<area>", not one alias of "goto-*" :P
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley beams a smile at LiamSmythe.
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: that would take eons to fix if you had to change one container.... no thank you
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Liam, you'd be surprised at how many people have 100 aliases just for portals. :)
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: 100 is nothing *scuff
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: I still have all my portal aliases for various places+chaos portals on top of that. (ofcourse I have different system nowadays but I DID have alias for all portals)
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: well.... i wrote a "LUA" script that calls a "movement-portal-c.out" mini application in C-Standard for *nix that handles all of that. i don't actually store all my alias's and variables and triggers and stuff in the MUSHClient application. C-Standard and MySQL
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: and yes... i'm that old... still using C and Assembler code
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: i love that approach tho <3
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers with LiamSmythe about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: well when i joined the US Navy in 1993... they turned me into an Assembler/FORTRAN/C-Standard programmer for cyber security... the last time i used a Thin-dows/Micro-Crash or Crapple machine was in 1993.... (WIN 3.11) -- never looked back. have only used Linux/Unix ever since
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: isther a help command for the Crowley plugins?
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: For my SnD?
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or other plugins?
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: no the other ones like auction utilities and those
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I don't think I included help files for most of my earlier ones. I need to redo the Auction Utilities one, though.
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But for Auction Utilities, if you type 'lbid', it'll display all that's on the market with a clickable link to pull up additional information.
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: sweet!
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I think that's why I didn't really include a help file... it tends to work automatically without any special commands. However, there MIGHT be a readme.md on the Github for it. There's a 'safe' command where you can type: safe <command> <#>[k|m|b] -- and it'll do the command, converting the number into thousands, millions, or billions. For example, 'safe bid 12345 1m' will bid 1,000,000 gold on item 12345.
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: thas awesome
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Anyone getting this from Crowley's SnD everytime they req a cp or gq? "main_target_list build error - tried to run while on cp but area/room type is 'none'."
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Did you do 'snd reload'?
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It shouldn't happen every time you request a cp/quest. If it is, then there is something I'm not aware of happening.
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Maybe I'm just lucky. It works fine after refreshing the target list
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I'll try a snd reload and see
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: its just on the req, cp check, etc always works fine so I dunno :)  I'll see if the reload fixed it once I finish this cp
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Turns out if you have Bast's xBroadcast_CP plugin active (it gets pulled in by his statmon plugin) it conflicts with SnD because it triggers on cp/gq req as well.  Thanks again to Crowley for helping me track down the issue.
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: Will using sqlite browser to fix some mistakes in my mapper db break anything? Other than possible mistakes I make ofc
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: nope, it's a good tool
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: take a backup if you're concerned ofc
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: Cool thanks. I'll definitely make a backup.
T3/r7/2023-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: i tried to remapped KT but it still run into errors when using mapper, is there something else i need to do?
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i'm trying to use AddTrigger to add a trigger to omit some output but the example i have came with a "custom_color.Coulurs" part. i don't need that but every time i try to remove it or replace it with "", i get an error. Is it possible to remove it or is it a default paramater that has to stay there?       AddTrigger("TESTTRIGGER", "You will now see prompts.", "", trigger_flag.Enabled + trigger_flag.OmitFromOutput + trigger_flag.Temporary + trigger_flag.OneShot , custom_colour.Custom15, -1, "", "")
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: oops, typoed hard there
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: How do I leave out item id from rid when reporting it to a channel??
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: how do I get to see uids when I enter a room?
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: how do I display room ids when I enter a room?
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: mapper thisroom lets you see it
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: not what i meant
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I want to see a room id always
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Kanaye: You can grab my RoomNamtoGMCP plugin on my Github.
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: is there sufficient value in getting an 'official certificate' from a university for a Data Analytics curriculum? theyre trying to ransom me an additional grand to for something that other folks might must like keep on their LinkedIn if they actually completed material already downloaded
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: no, find a job that requires it first before paying for any cert
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searaven Tech: I do a lot of hiring, I tend to discount official certificates anyway.
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: the best signaling you can do is to show you understand how to develop a project end-to-end
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: i just finished my grad degree and have no job, but even so my degree isn't very well received without projects/relevant experience, guess i got a lot of work to do....
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searaven Tech: Make sure you can actually put what you learned to some practical use, work on interview practice (it's a skill like everything else), will serve you better than a good certificate.
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: less an interest in actual coding ability, line by line, and more maybe AWS, warehouses/lakes (wtf?) then?
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: devops?
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: my friends at amazon say that certs do help in the hiring process, but that's after you land the interview
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: certs can help you land interviews too
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: amazon literally gives you prep material just study that.
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: but if someone was just trying to supplement their consumer insights background and doesnt actually want to be digging into code, just relay data from.?
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: projects? other contributions?
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: maybe start a portfolio using github and github pages to host it?
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: there are certs/training for like sales folks who want product/industry insight without getting a "tech cert"
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: that way you can showcase your code and your analysis
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: so maybe just proceed with curriculum in meantime..? fell behind when it was AWS stuff, then the capstone required mentally shifting back from R to python..i ain't that sharp :-(
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searaven Tech: FWIW a lot of data analytics these days involve some kind of light programming to get the data from sources into something presentable.  Python is a good thing to learn for data analytics.  R is too.
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: but would like FOrtune 100 corporations want a certificat?
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: i asked the instructor if it was something I could proceed with AWS Sagemaker, Azure, Looker free tutorials..he responded with some Medium data person that was premium only, I've noticed the program has been discontinued officially so i question chasing an obsolete cert
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searaven Tech: Honestly, it does not sound like good value.
T3/r7/2023-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: tips to improve this DINV priority for a paladin knight... I apparently have not updated it in a decade. https://pastebin.com/Nc51sPGx
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: can't find it in rules, is it ok for a plugin to exchange info through crypted tells between players?
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindayne Tech: how does one update mush to the newest version if they have a really old version without losingv all their settings/plugins/etc.? :P
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: The installer won't overwrite databases, plugins, etc. You just point it at your mush folder and it'll update it.
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: If you're worried, just backup your mush folder first
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindayne Tech: ty
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: is SetVariable("Value1", "alue2") valid?
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: is SetVariable("Value1", "@Value2") valid?
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yerald: Use: GetVariable("Value2") instead.
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: does gmcp report double xp?
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: As in when you receive it, or when it starts?
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: when it starts
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: and ends
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: be nice for double qp too
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No, it does not, then.
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: that be and ideas board post to request something like that?
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There is no comm.event to notify of start/end of double exp. However, your prompt can notify you of double exp.
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Can always request it, though I think it's been shot down before. If so, I forget why.
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: double qpts is done manually
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Helpdesk Kharpern.
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok thx
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I do know that having comm.events displaying at least double exp start would be amazing and cut out about 5-6 triggers that show the same thing.
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, it wouldn't be too difficult for Lasher to write code to send a gmcp message when they were manually triggered, too.
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So in theory, Lasher COULD also enable gmcp event notifications for manual triggering of double qp.
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: just thought it would be nice you have a notice on mush when those things were running, i can make triggers and miniwindow stuff i guess for those events, but qp for example isn't alway consistent notice since its done manually on restore
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: and there isn't always a restore for it
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: depends on the imm starting it
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: same with xp honertyl during specvial events, (not superhero, daily etc)
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yup kharpern
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: I mean I use aliases so I always do a restore but if there was a restore already done then it's usually an echo
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: when stacking commands for a cexit, you ;; between the commands. right?
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: how do you use the wait command mid cexit?
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: wait(2) for 2 seconds
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: sometimes i put it at the end of a long string of commands so the wait time is about right to register the correct room, but i dont know if thats good practice
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: I know to use "mapper cexits_wait" command before doing something longer than 2 seconds.
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: oh i didnt know that haha
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: my syntax was wrong, but the command is in there
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: ok i will look it up thanks
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: anyone know if there is a mobprogam with Pete at Scarred where he won't give a key if the door is open?
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: occasionally i do have to walk into his room multiple times
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: never looked into why
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Could be invis/hidden.
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it isn't vis related afaik, i think i've tried that. been a bit though lol
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: all i know, is that I'm having a problem making a stackec cexit with picking up his key (goal done)
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Maybe sneak? Not sure.
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, get the key once and don't worry about it until you quit out.
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: i'm tryin to keep invetory clear :P
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Put it on your keyring.
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Doesn't show up in inventory then.
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: item count?
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Don't be such a hoarder.
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: These all sound like YOU problems. :P
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thy Friend Yerald falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: i'm hoarding solutions... :P not exactly the same thing.
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Weight : -3400 of 1885 (can carry 5285 more weight) || Items  :  676 of 1175 (can carry 499 more items).
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: great... how do I access YOU for my stuff?
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: use the cart bug.  cant be too hard to import it from daggerfall.
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Pay me storage fee of 5,000,000 gold per hour. Or 25 qp per hour. :p
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: sounds reasonable, Mannec, pay the god.
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: i allready spent the 6k i got from the last DoND game..
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searaven Tech: Anyone know if there's an easy way to get dinv usage data into a spreadsheet? 
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: durel would know best
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searaven Tech: Fair enough.
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i modified my dinv to give me comma separators in dinv usage
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: so i could csv it
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searaven Tech: Ooo... that's clever.
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Searaven Tech: I could put some start/end characters in with that technique and probably output to a file through a trigger...
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i ought to make it a different option to usage and then submit it to durel for patching or whatev
T3/r7/2023-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: I've noticed certain Facebook accounts somehow the ability to backdate public comments which then pushes them to the bottom...the best person to file my complaint with is whom?
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: is there a way to reset xset kw for the whole area?
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Er, no... why would you want to do that, though?
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: i've used lower cased characters for sohtwo, so my keywords are not working there
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Lower case does not matter.
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Unless you're referring to manually setting the mobs.
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you've manually set the mob's keywords using the full command, then yes, it needs to match exactly.
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: i have set manually each mob using dialogue and unique name
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: i've checked for fome and unique names are still the same, but when i had quest i could not use kk
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: some*
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, bummer. However, if you download DB browser for SQLite, you can open up the SnD.db file, filter out by sohtwo, and modify it that way.
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just select the 'mobs' table to browse the data there.
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: not familiar with this browser, can you do the same with dbeaver?
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If dbeaver allows you to modify a database and write changes, yes, you should be able to do the same.
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I am just used with db browser because it is simple and lightweight.
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: thanks, db browser works even in ubuntu :P
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Awesome. :)
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Maybe I can include an 'xkw list [area|all]' to display all the user-defined keywords, akin to mapper portals, and allow you to modify the index for it.
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'll see about adding something like that in the future.
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: sounds fantastic
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: best addition would be adding xroutes, but I'm sure someone else already asked :)
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, yes, I'm working on that at some point, too. :p
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Methuselah Zensch thanks (Aleister) Crowley heartily.
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: help stacked commands say that stacking movement plus attacks is not legal during cps...so if i see a cp target 2 rrooms away, i cant send run 2w;c desol target?
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: right
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: that seems silly but ok
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: any suggestions for plugin that would report enemy name/hp and room name (like during epics) ? 
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Zensch: https://pastebin.com/Kbde9Agy
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabled Abel Tech: does anyone know how to remove {chan ch=tracker} without disabling all channel tags?
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: help tags
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabled Abel Tech: the help file doesn't help me
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabled Abel Tech: i don't want to disable all channel tags, just the mush tracker
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: can you just type "tags <tagnam,e>" and toggle it
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabled Abel Tech: well I am stupid. feel free to mock and ridicule. 
T3/r7/2023-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: its all good brother
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Is there a way to force a plugin to broadcast?
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: only if it has the ability imho... otherwise idk
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Is there anything to trigger off to get a daily reset? Gonna make a daily achievements-stat-tracker for myself
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: is anyone else same as me , SND uses dark crystal portal and unable to go to ToL?
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: nevermind. its the name of the portal that is the issue.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: dear microsoft: please disable "feedback hub" prompts on your enterprise skus. 
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: HOW LIKELY ARE YOU TO RECOMMEND THIS WINDOWS PRODUCT TO A COLLEAGUE
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: 10/10 :P
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: well i installed the image, so pretty highly
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: in fact i might REQUIRe they use it
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Dear Microsoft, I installed your OS just so I can use WSL as my primary base of operations. Thank you.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: As opposed to, you know, installing Linux directly.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: Dear Crowley, nobody cares
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: no need to be rude
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: -Your fav clannie
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Dear Dixon: That's because the only microsoft you know is between your legs.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: I disagree, definitely a need to be rude
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dixon moans in ecstasy at (Aleister) Crowley.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: its soft cuz I keep reading your damn diary
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, it wasn't intended for guys to read, ya know.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: today i learned that mushclient considers "version" a number, not a string. so 1.4 is fine, but 1.4.1 is not. *whee
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, GetPluginInfo says that item 19 (Version of plugin) returns a type double...
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: is there a secure/semi-trustworthy android keyboard app?
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: -
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabled Abel Tech: +
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here briefly
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Are the answers brief, or is the time to ask questions brief? *shifty*
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabled Abel Tech: is there anyway for mush client to turn 10k tnl into 1k tnl?
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you mean like botting?
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: string.gsub("10k", "1k")
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I mean, yes, but
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabled Abel Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, if you bot the 9k, then you only ever see the 1k. Works every time!
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Everyone please remember that botting is both against the rules and also selfishly antisocial behavior that should make you feel bad.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley is agreeing with that 1337 H4x0r Fiendish person again...
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: I just cloned the bastmush repo into my worlds/plugins folder. It seems like it automatically enabled all of the plugins and they don't show up in the mush plugin database. Is there something different I have to do to disable some of them? (not really a mush question I guess...)
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabled Abel Tech: correct botting sucks and will get you banned. 10k just sucks
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: EmilyBrewer: What exactly are you wanting from Bast's? Bast's hasn't been updated in a long time, and plenty other plugins do what his does, for the most part.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: EmliyBrewer: many of Bast's plugins automatically load a bunch of other parts because those other parts are needed for the thing you loaded to work.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: iendish: ok, that's what I figured but I was hoping there was some script to enable disable some of them.. oh well.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: rowly Mosstly the disarm and inventory scripts looked nice. It's hard to find up to date info. Is there another repository I should be looking at?
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: Oh whoops you can't use at the start of a word -_-
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Double up the @ if you want to display the @ symbol. So, @@Fiendish, not @Fiendish, for example.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: ty @
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Crowley's page might be the best place to start when looking for plugins that aren't part of the aardwolf mushclient package
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: As for those two, not too many replicate the visual impact of it. Durel has DINV, which is a total inventory management system, though. Disarm, it's really a simple trigger. Spellup plugins, you can look for Hadar for that, as well as plenty of reporting scripts.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: Ack, thanks!
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: although I notice that https://aardcentral.github.io/ doesn't appear to be getting love right now
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The page Fiendish is referencing is in help www, Aardwolf Player Plugin Repop (AardCentral github). I plan on turning it into a better webpage though, eventually.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: EmilyBrewer nods.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, I can't make a page private unless I want to pay or some shenanigans like that, so it'll get more love in the future. For now, browse the repositories and visit the actual linked repos for most up-to-date info.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ok, time is up for now. I'll be back later.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: i think i broke something... i added a line to my desc... but now when i type "whois" it doesn't show anything... anyone help? -- using mush
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Liam: whois and showdesc are two different outputs.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: there is no court. How do you know this guy isn't there harassing these people every day?
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can combine whois and showdesc, but you can also separate them. I do 'showdesc' and I see 4 lines.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: we don't know the full story and thats the only fact we know 100% for certain
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: rip
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: if i do that i see my desc as well... but if i typw whois... it doesn't show
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can type 'showdesc LiamSmythe' and it shows the information.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: and it did before i added the last line
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: try help description
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: ok what if you do a whois?
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: it explains it in help description
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Type 'autodesc' and try 'whois' to see if that fixes it.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You may have accidentally turned autodesc off.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: it was the autodesc option... thasnks for the help
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley smiles happily.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Some people turn it off so they aren't spammed with 1024 characters of a description. :p
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But it is a separate option if you ever want to see someone's desc, or your own.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: Is there an easy way to redirect output from a command to a file in MUSH? Like 'tech -h 10 > file.txt' for example
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: EmilyBrewer: ...ish... if you use my VI command capture plugin it will dump the response of a command into mushclient's built-in notepad editor, which I think can then be saved to a file
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: to do it directly I think we'd have to make a new script
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: though I do have code that would probably make it easier...
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: anyone good with python?
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: if not ChatGPT should be able to assist
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I am extremely good with python
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: chatgpt is not
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fabled Abel winks at 1337 H4x0r Fiendish.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faithful Ruhamah points excitedly at 1337 H4x0r Fiendish!
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ruhamah is also good at python!
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabled Abel Tech: all this good with pythons are giving me the vapors
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: actually, I'm retiring. send all python questions to ruhamah instead of me.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: fiendish: hm, I'll take a look at the VI plugin. Maybe this would be a good plugin to write for me to dip my toes into the system
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: keep in mind that that plugin is very old and does not use some of the newer techniques that I've developed recently
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but it's also not a very big plugin, so shouldn't be too hard to follow
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: EmilyBrewer nods.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'm now seeing if I can modernize the VI command output plugin to use newer techniques
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if successful it will substantially shrink the plugin
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: With a sly grin, Cheesy Anssett claims, "That's what she said." Cheesy Anssett's right.
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: sorry, couldn't help it
T3/r7/2023-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Reyn Tech: what's the best way to turn nosum off regardless of it's current state? it's a strict toggle that doesnt accept "nosum off" / "nosum on"
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: I used Python for my MSc then immediately forgot everything.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: clap van
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: I have repos of code that did clever stuff and if it weren't for my comments I wouldn't now know what it does
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: we were all there, i built noughts and crosses with pygame, now i cant remember how to open jupyter
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: Forget vanilla Jupyter, Google Collab is where it's at!
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: I have problem with SnDdb.db, seems some of my entries are not save
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Elaborate.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: it's about sohtwo again, first time i've tried to manually add unique keywords using window popups, and then when it didn't worked thought the problem was with spelling
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: then, as you suggested i've used db browser
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: i've added new entry using xset kw <my mob> from cp 
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Did you "write changes" after making the changes in db browser?
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: in game i've added new entry, but when i opened the file it is not there
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: browse data -> mob keyword exceptions , right?
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Let me double check.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, should be.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: i will try to add new entry and save from the browser to see if this affect the game, should i reload snd or re-connect after changes were saved?
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's weird, because it definitely saved it, but you're right, I don't see it in the database.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: manually adding via db browser works
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: and by 'saved it' you meant the pop up showed no error or that it was saved in a way you can use it?
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Saved in that it properly showed the saved keyword when 'echocommands' was used.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, wait, it DID save to my database.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I forgot, I was viewing it on my work computer, not my home computer, so had to wait for it to upload to OneDrive.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Interesting. OneDrive just decided, on a whim, to delete my entire MUSHclient directory...
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, at least the files...
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: SOmetimes OD takes an instruction to exclude as an instruction to delete...
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Reyn Tech: is there a way to add a wait() to a one-off command entered in mushclient command line?
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Reyn Tech: or would i have to create a script alias for it?
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: prob have to make an alias
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: or do one of those fancy 
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: \\\SomeScript() 
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: stuff
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Reyn Tech: ooooh that's right, that should work. thanks!
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: gooood luck :D
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: what does (express) mean on a cp target in Crwoleys SnD v5.99 beta window?
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, sweet. I just updated my personal copy of Note_Write_Helper to now process paragraph breaks properly. No longer do I need to start a paragraph break with a space. Don't know why it took me so long to figure it out. :p
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Selitos: xhelp express. It's a feature Gaballon put in.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: oh nice
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: clearly i must have it toggled on
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I think he set it to default on.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: do we know how many times it must appear in the same room in the database to be considered express/.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I believe he says you must have killed it at least 3 times.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Selitos nods.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: What's the plugin to open a map website for a specific area? 
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I think it's part of Pwar's package, but I'm not sure if it still works or not.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: Ok ty. I will check it out
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Reyn Tech: there's an updated one https://github.com/AardNaricain/showmap
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Reyn Tech: pulls from boot's website which is more up-to-date: https://aardwolfboot.com/maps/
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: Ohh nice, ty! Someone really needs to put together a compiled plugin list with all the up to date plugins. Mebe I will start working on one if it doesn't exist
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: I feel like Crowley was doing this
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There already is a compilation at AardCentral. I am just working on making it a webpage to link directly to the repositories rather than having to clone them and periodically updating them.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: help www
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: That's a great resource. Would it be possible to add a wiki page with a table of some of the more popular plugins and their descriptions? 
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Eventually, yes. I'm just a solo person, but if someone wants to actually help write the webpage, I can pay in trivia points. :D
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm just the host for it because it was long overdue to have a compilation of what is known out there (and some lesser-known plugin creators).
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: Ok! I'd be happy to do it eventually, but I need some more time to familiarize myself with MUSH and most of the plugins. But that would definitely be a nice to have
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: EmilyBrewer nods.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: thanks! I'll let you know how it goes :) 
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: whoops..
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: Is there a plugin that writes all tells to a file so you don't accidentally quit and lose them? If not i'm writing it :o
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You don't lose them if they are in your tell queue. It does save to your personal board.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: unread tells save to personal
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's if you have catchtells on and haven't hit replay to read them.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: unsure if that's the question
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: I know, but I mean read ones lol
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: just all tell history
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you haven't disabled it, AardMUSH logs your commlog.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So you can open up the AardwolfChat log and just search for "tells you".
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: Ohh, I did not know that
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can thank Fiendish for that. *shifty*
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: <3
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: any known reason for mapper to say I'm blinded when I'm not?
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: is the room dark?
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: nope
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Dirt kick?
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: nope
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Check your affects.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just to ensure blindness isn't listed.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: nothing on aff to cause blind
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What room are you in that displays that?
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: The first stage of sleep (36814)
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: cexits set up/always worked, doesn't try to use them now
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Weird if it shows blind. Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: It looks like you are blinded. Norecall/noportal flags will not be added until you can see again.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Try restarting the mapper plugin.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: restarted it, still same :(
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, it DOES say you're in a magic slumber.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Try wake?
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: I can do that manually, yeah
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm not getting an issue myself. Now that you've left the room, does it still do it when you come back? Or is it in every room?
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: still happening
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just that room, or all rooms?
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: if I do manual, I can go, but if I try to click on a mob in snd, or xrt, I'm blind
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: exited manually, tried to run back with xrt, blind, did rt from recall, came back, manually went to room, blind again
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: restart aardwolf_gmcp_mapper, or your entire mushclient if you haven't already tried that
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: had to load backup, restarting gave same
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's so incredibly odd. I wonder what caused it.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: have never seen that before
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: am i correct in thinking that perhaps my computer's performance should improve after i start closing down apps, tabs, etc...killing processeses. maybe theres something else going ong on?
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: if you are usinfg Micro-crash... there ain't alot you can do... it is a memory/cpu hog...
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: switch to UBUNTU-Linux  --  i used a laptop that had a P3 cpu and 2G memory until it died 2 months ago... i bought it brand new in 2006
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: no this is Pop_OS, i somehow think there may be some extenuating circumstances
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: and it ran faster than most new Thin-dows or cr-Apple machines
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should verify whether there are processes using a lot of CPU/IO - just use for that htop/top and iotop
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: LiamSmythe wildly nods his head at Trachx... he seems to be in total awe.
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, if you are low on memory and swap is used - it may cause a lot of performance problems, especially if swap is intensively used
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so basically you could start with turning off swap
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: of course, if you turn off swap - you might get hard crashes instead of slowdowns.  depends on how much of that swap you actually need at any given moment :p
T3/r7/2023-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: sorry for the late comment... but you should set your swap file-size to 10% -- 20% of your physical memory. 
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: Anyone know why I might not be able to accept items even if my nogive is correctly toggled?
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Weight? Item count?
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: what's the message?
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: Would the person trying to give the item have seen this message?
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: I don't know what message they saw. They just said I couldn't accept the item.
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: does it not give the receiving player any message?
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: alignment based item, mayhaps?
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: check your weight and item limit
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: Wrilley, I scrolled back and I didn't get any message. Since the item in question was my corpse, I think the weight/item limit explanation is probably correct. Thanks, all!
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: thanks for looking =)
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: odd, my hp shows as 6 "/694 
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm. I'm using Excel (Office 365). I have 42 conditional formatting rules (3 for each column) that compares a value against another. Is there a way to consolidate it down to 3? For instance, in column C, I have the conditional formatting rule of: If Cell Value > $19 then Fill Red. If Cell Value < $19 then Fill Yellow. If Cell Value = $19 then fill Green. I would like all three rules to apply to columns C-P without the need to create 42 rules...
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Er, $C$19 for those values.
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: can't you just copy/paste formatting?
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Easiest would be to select the whole column and then apply your conditional formatting rules.
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: can't you just select all 3 columns and go into conditional formatting and set the rule
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You can!
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ralyn: 14 columns, each with three rules each. Just trying to minimize how much I need to edit if I'm going to edit a rule. Editing 3 rules is quicker than editing 14 rules.
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: right, so make a rule for all 14 columns, 3 rules total
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: just select all of them
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: copy whatever cell/column has the rule you like, then alt+h, v, f on your new selection
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But the comparison value is different for each one. For example, Column D checks value D19. E checks E19, and so on.
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: well if you are comparing each column to a different value for the formatting, then you need a different rule
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Will it work if I just select all 14, do Cell Value > C19, and expect it to know C19, D19, E19... etc?
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: how can you combine rules that have different conditions
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: you could mirror c19 into a cell in every column then hide that whole row to disguise the value
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, that's what I was hoping to avoid, Ralyn. Well, phooey if it's not wholly possible.
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, I suppose I could actually just use VBA to do the conditional formatting for me anyway, now that I think about it.
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, I'm apparently learning and dumb at the same time. All I had to do was select C2:P16, and change the comoparison value from $C$19 to... wait for it... C$19 - it then updated the comparison value per column.
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: ah excl
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, 3 rules instead of 42.
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: tech well the e key on my laptop just broke...
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: is there anyway - or would this be considered a type of botting -- to get the name of the mob in the room, store it in a variable so you could type "atk <variabe>"??? so you don't have to type each mob in a room?
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: As long as it's not auto attacking it's fine. You can parse consider for mob names. There are a couple plugins that do it
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: hmmz, any clue why neither of those 2 gags work in game but works if i use game->test trigger
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: 1: "^You are taxed [0-9,]+ gold coins? by your clan\.$" #regex
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: 2: "^.*You are taxed .*[0-9,]+.* gold coins? by your clan\.$" #regex
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: huh i mean you can capture it that way i guess
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: see, i was just lazy and did .+ for the value
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: and it gave no problems
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: check the mud's output for trailing or leading spaces?
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: yeah hmm
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: yeah hmm
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: I would use '^You are taxed (.*?) gold coins by your clan\.$'
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: but that may not be perfect, it could miss 1 gold coin
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: but yeah it sounds like there are ending spaces or hidden chars or something in the actual mud ouput
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: if it works in the simulation interface
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: #2 i posted tries to capture color codes if that's how #gag works
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: this also doesn't work:  3: "^You are taxed .* gold coins? by your clan\.$" #regex
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: oh you're using gag not a trigger
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i haven't played with that as much
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: yes, #gag
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: alright so what are you trying to accomplish, you just dont want to see your taxes?
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: fyi, trigger "^You are taxed [0-9\,]+ gold coins? by your clan\.$" works fine, it's just #gag with same doesn't
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: do you have the radio box for outmit from output checked on those triggers?
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it looks to me like your #gag syntax isn't right, or you are just reformatting for on tech
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: if all you want to do is gag the line, you can try a much simpler pattern - a simple 'You are taxed' should do it.
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i would expect somethin like #gag {^You are taxed [0-9,]+ gold coins? by your clan\.$} #regex
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: rhymes... do #gag help
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: alright my b
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: #gags output -> http://mb.aardwolfboot.com/kawavitada
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: ahhh
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: what is the "?" doing after coins
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i'm rusty on regex
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: s? is s or no s there
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: 0 or 1 s
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: so it matches coin and coins
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: ah
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: anyway, now I don't have to quit boot because of those annoying messages :)
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: lol
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it could *possibly* be the color changing, shouldn't be. the color boundaries look ok
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: too lazy to look at #gag code... maybe it's running on styleruns, then it's all borked
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i'd just write it off to odd behavior in #gag and use a trigger that omits output until fiendish comes on to tell me exactly which line i overlooked in the helpfile
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: yep, just added that line to local triggers and it all works fine
T3/r7/2023-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: well at least you solved the issue even if its not the way you wanted to
T3/r7/2023-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: any power bi experts here or dax/m query people?
T3/r7/2023-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: https://dontasktoask.com/
T3/r7/2023-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: what's the best/easiest way to make a blocking call in a plugin via another thread? Say, for example, making a web request.
T3/r7/2023-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: someone told me to learn Github markdown, am i missing something or is it like html 2.0? 
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Has anyone been running MushClient on Windows 11?
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Thank you
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: No real issues :)
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Anyone here using Ruhamahs plugin manager?
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I am
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I  have certain plugins that error out when i try to install them
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Yeah there are one or two. I reported them to Ruhamah
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Can't really help with them sadly but you're not crazy :)
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: So you sugest using those from within pwars or are there more update versions elsewhere?
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I don't really know tbh
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Anyone here using the auction utils plugin?/
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Is there a plugin that looks out for 3 moons?
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: hmmf room 29757 - stairwellin kearvek i haven an alias for mh = mapper goto my manor... but when i use it here... it tries and leaves me here... other places it would move me then home... its norecall/noportal room... ideas?
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: is there a path out?
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: sure i can go 2e and home, just not there
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: do you have bounceportal set?
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: am I missing some entire concept or is "Github Markdown" like html 2.0? someone asked if i could learn it 
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: github markdown is just markdown with a few small tweas
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: tweaks
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://github.github.com/gfm/
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: but the concept is basically the same right? i look at the docs and question why the person thought i couldnt learn it in like a day
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes, github flavored markdown is just markdown
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: concept is the same
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: can i have a lua function accept any number of variables?
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: google lua varargs
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://www.lua.org/pil/5.2.html
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: see also http://lua-users.org/wiki/VarargTheSecondClassCitizen though
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: cool thanks
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I use it here: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/bf6b70c03d5f3a99e3d6079e57d9fa2c095407b6/MUSHclient/lua/themed_miniwindows.lua#L569-L581
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: and here: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/6dd3576ac6928915dd5f92535dc76801c3dd77af/MUSHclient/lua/aardmapper.lua#L1162-L1174
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: doesnt that pass a table to print() and cause an error
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ... isn't a table
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so there's a bit of version confusion here because in Lua 5.0 it was ... -> arg table, but in Lua 5.1 you get ... -> ...
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gaballon boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if you want it to be a table you have to assign {...}
T3/r7/2023-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ignore the first link I gave to lua.org/pil
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: can i use some sort of wait command for cexit?
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: please teach me! :)
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: mapper help exits
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: got it! thanks!
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: explains everything
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: note there are two cmds cexit_wait and wait(3) each for different purpose
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i cant get the manor upgrade generator to work: : http://bit.ly/aard_manors
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: anyone else had issues?
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i select something from the dropdown menu then nothing happens...
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: works for me
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: try a different browser maybe
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i tried 3 diff browsers, same issue 
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: whats the plugin that makes the hp/mana at the bottomm and text is above it
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: aardwolf_health_bars ?
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: i have that added, but what "locks" it?
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: like the main mud window is full screen it seems
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean zorder ?
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or just bring to front/send to back ?
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: so my laptop crashed
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: so it removed all plugins
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: my main output window isnt a window, it goes all the way across the screen, so i cant scroll up to see last stuff
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so maybe just reset layout?
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: with "aard layout reset" or "resetaard"
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: hrmmmm
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dukkha Tech: is there a way to config 'run' to abort after the first failed movement?
T3/r7/2023-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: anyone know a plugin that will sort incomplete scrolls by expiration? Or some other way to efficiently do that?
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glistner Tech: how do i repurpose with a chrome os
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glistner Tech: it has an admin for school and i lost the password. i wuit and i cant log into it
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: sounds like a google question to me
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Contact the school for password recovery?
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glistner Tech: yea. i quit. so its not 100 percent lesl
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glistner Tech: legal
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glistner Tech: im just going to take it apart and reset it that wy
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: well you're prob on your own then
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Eh, it's not a matter of legality if you quit. Some schools disable your login after a while. Of course, if you're not an active student, they may not give you access anymore.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it's a matter of legality if it belongs to the school :p
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But if it is your personal computer (i.e. not stolen...) then you can find ways to wipe the partition and start fresh.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Cheesy Anssett.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I give people the benefit of the doubt, especially since this channel isn't meant for helping you bypass things on stolen items.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i usually run out of "benefit of the doubt" after the first 3 or so support calls of the day
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There are some moments when you have to say, "People really ARE that stupid."
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett nods.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But to be fair, it's only the stupid people that generally need support.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: nah not where i am. plenty of people need admin credentials that we don't hand out :p
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: is there any public avail swings damage output tracker plugin?
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: dtrack?
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Already one in-game.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: can even do dtrack hits.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: and track some skills.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: was hoping for a more comprehensive one.. but that will do!
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: im also looking for a tracker that tells you how much damage i did every round
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I don't consider dtrack super use when wanting to "track" something, I think Macbeth would want more of a dps tracker, or battle meter which some exist out there at least privately.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: correct..
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Probably nothing public, officially. Not to that extent.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I honestly bet ChatGPT could write a good foundation for one since it's mostly captureing text you just need to copy into chatgpt and write regex commands.  Tho ChatGPT is by no means close to perfect or even excellent, but gives a push in the right direction.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I've been using ChatGPT for a while now. Still bogged with traffic, but it's helped me with a few projects. :P
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Same it's made me think of different ways to write stuff for work that I didn't think about.  I don't think I've ever been able to copy anything from it exactly for code, but can get around the errors fairly easy.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I yelled at ChatGPT because it kept making stupid errors in the code it was writing. It came back to tell me, "I'm sorry that I can't help you with your problem."
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But I've copied code directly and it's worked in a number of cases. Really goes into detail with a lot of stuff.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: lol, yeah I love using it, helps alot with writing dax/m functions for power bi which I've never had to do until recently.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: ok since we are on this.. crowley might be interested. there are some proofs (debatable) that we live in a simulation.. 
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Macbeth: I've read into those a few times. Mandela effects are certainly on that list, most famously for things like Fruit of the Loom's Cornucopia.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I think it's impossible for us to be living in a simulation, because (so far) it's been impossible to program true randomness which exists in our universe.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: yes most notably the mandela effects. eerie stuff
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: People swear the FotL logo had a cornucopia with it, others have never known that to be true. :p
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Macbeth.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But then it comes down to something related to mass hysteria, where the simple suggestion of something influences others to see it, too.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or feel it.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: and dejavu we experience is like glitches or / overlapping. like a software update
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: ChatGPT has failed me. "I'm sorry, but I am not able to write code in Lua."
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Macbeth.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or premonitions, knowing a road is closed before you even get to the location because of a dream you had.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: what?  I used it to write lua code a few weeks ago.  Did they disable that?
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I don't know, Durel. Let me see if it does it again on a simple thing.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But I've used it to write code in Lua, too.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: it wrote a functioning solution for a recursive towers of hanoi problem and freaked me out :p  It took like 5 seconds too and even added comments in lua
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: On the very next one, it actually writes the code for me on a different ask.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Durel.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: did it write it or did it find somebody else's code on the internet
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The comments are what crack me up, honestly.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i haven't been following it
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I think it actually writes it itself.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: anssett that's the question isn't it :p
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett nods at Durel.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you try to search for the code, I don't think you turn up anything.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I used it to write a small perlin noise generated endless voxel map generation, was scary.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: this is my extent of experience with chatgpt, watching this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FCDLp-X-mw
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: and stormwind, some phyicist claims he has identified what appears to be actual computer code embedded in the equations of string theory
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: and speed of light was capped in our simulation world as one of the initiate rules. again everything is debatable.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: That wouldn't surprise me I'd imagine DNA is a lot like programming personally.  
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: there is a design being worked that by passes the speed of light
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: when AI overtakes the programmers. us being the AI :P
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: anyone ever have areia's invis ring plugin not work anymore?  have tried removing the plugin and readding it and nothing :(
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glsitner Tech: so i cant by a windows os by disconnecting the power from the mother board eith a cord
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glsitner Tech: iys windows chrome os with a version 2
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rakas Tech: does anyone know why iring plugin may stop working?
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rakas Tech: I have tried reinstalling, remove and reinstall. nothing works
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: same here
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: what's the iring plugin?
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: areia's invis ring plugin
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rakas Tech: interesting Dartan. Did it stop a few days back?
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: maybe it depends on certain things that changes? I wouldn't imagine there's any auto-update behavior, so maybe after a remort, etc
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: something like that rakas yea
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rakas Tech: before and after remort same behaviour
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rakas Tech: wonder if something in the gave variables changed to cause it to break
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rakas Tech: I was thinking something was corrupt on my end
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rakas Tech: but Dartan your confirmation disproves that hypothesis
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: rakas i tried going back to an older version of my mushclient settings and it didn't fix anything for iring
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rakas Tech: so iring plugin failure renders aard invis rung useless :)
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rakas Tech: is there a way to read the log or debug the plugin in mushclient? If there I might try and see what is causing the issue
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: anyone know how to wipe portals from dinv?
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If you just want dinv to "forget" about your portals so that you can rescan then later, you could do:  dinv forget type portal
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I guess it depends what you mean by "wipe" the portals though
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: in full.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: then the "dinv forget type portal" command will tell dinv to completely remove references to all of your portals
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm not sure why you would want that though
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: perfect, thanks
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: is there a way for dinv to refresh just your containers
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: "dinv refresh all" will catch all of your containers...but also the contents.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: is there a quicker way to just do the bag?  i die alot in epics and the refresh all takes a while 
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: unfortunately, no dartan
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: nod ty durel
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: but if you die in epics, you won't have a corpse so the refresh should be very very fast
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Interesting. The webhooks I have for Discord do not want to work through a VPN.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or maybe it's not the VPN at fault. Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: i'm looking for a bar at the bottom of mushclient that has visual health mana moves and alignment and that changes color when it's quest time or a gq is coming, any ideas
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: other than rakas, does anyone else use areia's iring plugin?
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: is there any way to recreate the numpad or any buttons (easily) to be able to be pressed by a mouse?  I would like to add like a virtual numpad to my mushclient i can use the mouse to just click on them.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: can you clarify "recreate"?
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh, you just want buttons?
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: yea so i can use my mouse to click the buttons
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes, see https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Easy-DIY-Miniwindows#clickable-buttons-example
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish: Did you recently start requiring 'string_split'? Reason I ask is a player on 2194 couldn't use string.split until they required 'string_split', but don't seem to have to require it in later versions.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: thats it i think!  thanks so much
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: crowley: that's not nearly enough context
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, so there's a lua file, string_split, that brings the function string.split to MUSH.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I am familiar
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The Note Writer plugin I wrote uses string.split. Omphalon, on 2194 (I believe) got an error because string.split didn't work. But I've never required it myself and it worked for me.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, I wasn't sure if it was a recent change, or if something was amiss.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In any case, I added if not type(string.split) == "function" require 'string_split' end -- so that'll at least cover all bases.
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: Limunious: i have a rough framework already that creates buttons
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: u could modify it if ur comfortable 
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: https://github.com/AardGaballon/Twindow/blob/main/Twindow.xml
T3/r7/2023-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a pretty good plugin on the MUSHclient forums from Gammon which gives you a bar of buttons
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh hey. Durel is back
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel smiles happily.
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faithful Ruhamah is agreeing with that 1337 H4x0r Fiendish person again...
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'm super glad
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Durel!!!  Faithful Ruhamah cheers him on.
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I still think that Durel and Bast are the same person based on both leaving at around the same time
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faithful Ruhamah gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: heh, I wish.  If I knew how Bast's stuff worked when I started learning lua I wouldn't have wasted a year :p
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: And based on making these gigantic plugins that everyone uses and then walking away
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: And people come to me asking questions about how to use dinv and I'm like...man...you know who could probably answer that but isn't here...
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faithful Ruhamah chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: Wait wait.. I can finally ask my Dinv tech questions?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: go for it :p
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you always could. enough people are wizards with it.
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: just not me because my brain is made of cheetos and fish sticks
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: Dinv wears the wrong level stuff when I do 'dinv set wear (class)' until I do a refresh.  How often should I do refreshes?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: that's up to you.  You can have dinv auto-refresh as often as you like or you can just do it manually.  I prefer manually to save unnecessary work, but that's not everyone's preference
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: see "dinv help refresh" for details and examples :)
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: you also need to refresh when you die and get all your eq back from your corpse
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: Next and last question from me regarding dinv.. where do i donate?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: lol, no need to donate :P  Just use it :p
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: ive never needed refresh after dying
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: It's a thing, I've had to refresh after dying fwiw
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: do you use dinv to manage portals?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: not everything though, it is a mystery
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: if an item leaves your inventory then dinv can pull stats for it from a cache when you pick it back up.  But if you drop a bag, dinv doesn't trust that it hasn't changed if you pick it back up later so it wants to scan the bag again with a full refresh.  Dying is similar if your items leave your inventory and move to your corpse.
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: But sometimes when you die, you don't have items leave your inventory (e.g, epics or areas designated as morgue rooms) so you don't need a refresh after that
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: dinv maintains a table with your "usual" bonuses to stats per level... and uses that for "analyze" etc... do you think one needs to erase that and start from scratch at t5 or so?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: you can if you want, but it weights your most recent bonuses higher than earlier ones so it will keep up with your current tier bonuses reasonably well
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: classchange from caster to melee?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's a bit different so yeah rebuilding that might be a good idea.
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: roger, thanks for the answers and the plugin :)
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Durel are pull requests welcome?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm honestly not maintaining the version on github these days.  I have a custom app store for plugins that I am porting all my stuff to.  So if you do a pull request I might take a look but no promises :p
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Oh, well if that needs testers I'm sure you'll find plenty :P
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel grins evilly.
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: a custom app store?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I added a dinv export that dumps the db to a csv or json file so was curious if features were still a thing or if it was in maintenance mode
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel nods at 1337 H4x0r Fiendish.
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: where?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I have a custom backend hosted on AWS
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: not public?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: not yet
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but going to be?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: semi-public with limitations eventually :p
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: monthly subscription fee?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: lol no :p
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: oh man
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: heh, then why?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: So I have control over plugins and can revoke them in rare cases
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: He's pulling a Taylor Swift.
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: are you sure it's even possible?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I spliced an encrypted runtime onto mush and each plugin is individually encrypted for a particular char and their alts :p
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: neat
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: please don't encrypted bot
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: so a private loqui & friends plugin repo with some limited public things is the plan Durel?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: nope :p
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: no, I have some plugins that are public, some that are clan-only, and some that are ally-only
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Cool then sounds interesting
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: please make dinv a public one ;P
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: it will be :P
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but you don't want to use github for it
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's right
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radrat Tech: anyone know how to reset the info bar on the mushclient ?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I don't even show mine
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: doesn't seem all that useful
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radrat Tech: i thought i had stuff loaded in it
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Some plugins put stuff into it but none of Fiendish's as far as I know
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radrat Tech: i dragged it up and it now covers half the screen when i have it on
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: just drag it back down
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: if it's not showing anything if you go in view you can turn it off
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radrat Tech: tried that cannot when to click and drag
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: mine always came back when I restarted mush it's in view
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radrat Tech: yeh i have it turned off now but would like to reset it
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: but now I use dulltracker it's in that
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radrat Tech: yeh i have the dull tracker reporting in there
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: try reinstalling the plugin it might resize it?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: just started using that plugin so not sure really 
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radrat Tech: good idea
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hyperbole Tech: does anyone know why xrt would still be trying to use portals i have routed through dinv after i purged?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radrat Tech: mapper ?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hyperbole Tech: i purged
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: So 'mapper portals' has no portals listed?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: try dinv refresh?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hyperbole Tech: just my academy that i just setup but echocom is trying to pull a different id
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radrat Tech: omw there is a reset tool bar locarion in the view drop down lol
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hyperbole Tech: i did a build at hestor and reloaded snd
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: haha oh I missed that
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: check the mapper portals against what you entered
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radrat Tech: what do you get when you type mapper portals
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hyperbole Tech: You entered: hold 2554015524 aceademy id 2662927221
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hyperbole Tech: |   1 | academy    | Outside the Aylorian | 35200 | dinv portal use 2662 |   1 |
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: try redoing it
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radrat Tech: what area ?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hyperbole Tech: any area
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radrat Tech: speedwalk area and what do you get ?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: another day older and further in debt?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hyperbole Tech: not sure what you mean, i get the recall run directions
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hyperbole Tech: but cant use xrt
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: try runto so it gets there
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: think he meant runto
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fenriz Tech: my wifi connection keeps going to sleep. where do i prevent that again?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Under power settings.
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: When your computer/laptop goes into hibernation, it cuts off your wifi.
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: crowley mine either :-( i was pretty intoxicated when i agreed to meet with a navy recruiter on Friday, despite my protests that i had been overzealous, and quite certainly do not meet official requirements..so i'll have to message him tomorrow to be like yeah it's not worth your time
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: i stand by that official statement covfefe style, welcome to mush world
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: anyone use areia's iring plugin and has it working atm?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: hi, fiendish... qq... why regex #gag doesn't work but works fine with regular client trigger to omit output line:
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: ^You are taxed [0-9\,]+ gold(?: coins?)? by your clan\.$
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rakas Tech: I got it working Dartan
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it's the color boundary problem, probably
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I probably wouldn't use #gag for whole line omits
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Athlau nods.
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I guess I could redo the whole thing to not care about color boundaries, but it's very complicated
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HereComeDe Smudge Tech: I just updated mushclient for the first time in a while. Is there a toggle for having the main window split when you scroll? It's a nice feature, just want to be able to turn it off/on while I get used to it.
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: maybe just for gags? hmm
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i removed that plugin smudge :p
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Smudge: it's a standalone plugin that can be disabled 
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: splitscreen scrollback
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: there's no toggle for it. you just disable the plugin.
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HereComeDe Smudge Tech: got it, thanks!
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: or give it a chance for a bit and hope to get used to it? 
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: third option is to ask me to add a toggle for it
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: which I'm open to
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: or ask someone else to submit a toggle for it to me
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HereComeDe Smudge Tech: I'll give it some time to get used to. I can see the appeal, not sure I want it when I have a small screen though. We'll see.
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yeah, it's tough to arrange things if you don't have a ton of space
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: just know that you can grab the divider and move it up and down
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: To add to the split screen scroll back, you can easily return to full window without splitscreen with Ctrl+Space.
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that will remove the split, but it also brings you back to the end of the output
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Right, that's what I was referring to.
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: can you set mobs as no hunt in SnD?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: using mapper can i get a display of the speedwalk from my current position to somewhere without execution
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Reyn Tech: mapper where {roomid} ?
T3/r7/2023-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: nice! tks!
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: is there a way i can use dinv to empty my bag of all the useless stuff?
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: define useless...
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: all stuff not in a set and not portals
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: You can see what that stuff is with dinv usage
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: but there's no auto way to get it
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Would be nice if there was a 'dinv foreach'
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: sweet well thats a big help thanks Orphean!
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: 'keep' items you want to keep, drop all + sac all everything else
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: is mush using same regex \n for newlines as on regex101?
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: If I update my aardwolf mushclient, will I keep all of my cexits ?
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You should, yes.
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Before updating, it's always nice to have a backup just in case.
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: as long as you don't delete the mapper database :D
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: ok, so just make a copy of my mushclient folder somewhere, Crowley ?
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's about the best advice, yes.
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: thanks, just did it
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: everything looks fine so far
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: there is one customization I used to have that has now gone away, and that is the replacement of the shadow of the wolf in the main screen with a plain black screen, but I forgot how that was done
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ#how-do-i-remove-or-change-the-aardwolf-logo-background-image-in-the-main-output
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: got it, thanks
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ugh. Someone should develop a "take a group of strings, do comparisons for matching characters, if it finds a non-matching character in comparison assume it's a wildcard, continue with the next matching character, and when all wildcards are assumed, generate a regex based off it" site. Or plugin. Or something. Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gaballon boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That way I can feed it 100 lines, it'll determine where duplicates are, and create regexes for each completely different line. *nod self*
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In short form, I feed it "I ate 7 bananas today!", "I ate 3 apples today!" "I will eat 4 oranges tomorrow!", "I will eat 3 bunches of grapes tomorrow!"... and it'll create 2 regexes ("I ate \d+ \w+ today!", "I will eat \d+ [\w\s]+ tomorrow!")
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm... maybe I can make life easier with just doing: for word in string:gmatch(line, "^%s") do if word:find(line) then regLine = regLine .. " " .. word else regLine = regLine .. " " .. ".*" end... (Well, code similar to that. Can't be bothered to look at the actual syntax to make sure it works.
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pelf Tech: new to muds, using tt++ on iPad + iSh. Anyway to split chat from game dialogue?
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelfine Tech: Anyone know if there is a command to reload the mushclient without closing it and disconnecting? snd is throwing a bunch of errors
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: snd reload
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelfine Tech: typing snd reload does nothing im afraid
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: hm
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't De Cide Tech: Can try going to file plugins and reinstall it and see if that helps.
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelfine Tech: tried reinstall, still getting spammed with Trigger function "xcp_index_line_end" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radrat Tech: did that happen with a CP ?
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelfine Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelfine Tech: when I checked campaign
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radrat Tech: yeh there is a mob that cause it with one of the mush versions
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelfine Tech: any work around besides restarting mushclient?
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radrat Tech: either fail the cp or do the cp the old way and once you kill the mob a reinstall of that plugin will work
T3/r7/2023-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelfine Tech: I've just been closing the client entirely to fix it
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SillyByte Tech: anyone using tintin++ ?
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: 11 people are, at least.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm not one of them, but yes, 11 people are.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: 10 of them being very silent individuals
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Don't know WHO they are, but if you type 'clients', you can see how many people use different types of clients.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SillyByte Tech: got it! thanks!
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can use 'domains' to find out where a majority of people are from, too.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SillyByte Tech: tintin++ users is there a way to get the INFO messages in a different pane?
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: easiest way would be replacing tintin++ with mush...
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear Methuselah Zensch has been here just a second ago. You wonder where he went ...
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Smoochable Saraid sniggers at Methuselah Zensch's actions.  Maybe you should REPORT the idjit.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: truth
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk on Whiskey Tech: I thought he said hes using it on an ipad tho
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk on Whiskey Tech: I use chrome remote desktop and remote in and use mush
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That was pelf, unless pelf renamed.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk on Whiskey Tech: pelf?
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk on Whiskey Tech: you better check your pelf crowley!
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Pelf is using an iPad. No one responded to Pelf, though. He is new to MUDs. He may not return.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear Drunk on Whiskey has been here just a second ago. You wonder where he went ...
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk on Whiskey Tech: oh, my bad.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: any idea why mapper keeps thinking I'm blind?
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Still having issues with that? Wow.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: has happened 3 different times now, not blind, by gear or spells
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Light sources?
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I need to know more about the issue. is it happening right now?
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: not happening right now, but like every couple of days
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: would like to figure it out so it stops :)
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: shouldn't be a light source, wearing light, night vision
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: does it happen in different rooms each time?
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I think I need to know while it's happening so I can investigate better
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: happens random times/levels/rooms
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: know what room it happened recently in?
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: yeah, room in scarred, first up from maze
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: For what it's worth, does not show blind for me.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: didn't show blind for you the other day in imagi either :(
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: I can see room etc just fine, but mapper will say I'm blind
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh yeah, in Imagi, room with the portals, Bronnie was blind there too.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it's going to be funny if the problem is that you have something gagging aflags output before the mapper can read it
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: I don't think I have a plugin that does that, and I have no idea how to do it :)
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it's always the people who don't know how who end up doing things like this
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I guess let's first type #gag to see if you have anything set there
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: wouldn't put it past myself, I'm totally inept with anything more complicated than an alias
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: no gags
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I don't even remember why I added gags to the substitution plugin anymore
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Maybe because it's a staple from zMUD/CMUD that people wanted so they can gag individual lines with ease?
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Convenience aliases and all.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I guess, but it's not like omit from output is hard to use
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: bronnie: type aflags
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: do you see the output?
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: yep
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Omit from output isn't hard to use, right, but also #gag shows what you do gag in a nice format without having to search for it in triggers.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: is there something else like invmon that plugins rely on to be on?  i'm thinking maybe i turned something off on accident and that made areia's iring plugin not work
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: DINV requires invmon to be on.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: any plugin that requires server output really should enable the output setting itself
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at 1337 H4x0r Fiendish.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: DINV does so intially, and if you turn it off, it tells you that it requires invmon and to enable it again.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It would be nice if we can get all of the config options sent to GMCP instead of the restricted few we have now, though.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: is there an undelete if you delete an alias? :p
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Only if it's a MUSHclient alias and you either have a backup or version history for the mcl file.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: where can i access the version history?
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: no such thing unless you make it yourself
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Depends on if OneDrive has access to your MUSH folder. Microsoft has taken to syncing folders across the account, so things like desktop, documents, etc are in OneDrive with version histories. You can right-click and see if 'Version history' exists, or log into onedrive.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: oh failboats :(
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's saved me a few times when I've royally screwed up my spreadsheet and need to fix it.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: non regex - is there a way to indicate EOL?
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: Pattern := '//[^\r\n]*'
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: He wants non-regex.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: stolen from: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47864250/regular-expression-to-end-of-line
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But a trigger will only fire once it reaches end of line if not put in regex.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: speaking of regex new lines, is /n working in mush?
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: all non-regex patterns in mushclient are anchored
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yes?
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: can i get help why my regex didn't work?
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: /n is not a thing
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: gag consume
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: all escapes use backslash not forward slash
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, there is that.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: You bury your fangs deep into the [A-Za-z ]*. - this works
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Zensch even had the right format in his answer to Kerith.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I just figured he mistyped it in his question.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: i've tried \n \R $ - did not worked
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: and you don't use \n to anchor the end of a line. you use $.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: \R is also not a thing
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: i could try to convert it to regext hmmf
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: can't remember if this was \R - one of the online solution used something similar
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If it was an online solution, they were wrong.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or addressing something else.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: should i worry about this? --- Output buffer has 499999/500000 lines in it (100.0% full).
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loggy Logrom Tech: It rolls over :)
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: oh hey you can change that higher now
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mischanner Epsilon promptly sets the buffer to 500k.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: anyone here good with chatgpt prompting?
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anyone ever release something on steam before? i wonder if the aardwolf mushclient package could be installed through steam.
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: there is another mud with a client that has been released on steam so it is possible
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: imho. i like not having a steam account to play my game(s).
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Being disoverable would be an advantage
T3/r7/2023-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: we release some of out updates for ubuntu software through steam
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: did snd get an update for SoH weird names fix?
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: there is a beta yes
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: hmnn where can i find that?
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: i think it's like a cmd: snd update beta or something
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Deswrath: snd force update beta
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: thanks crowley!!
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Though I maybe should change 'force update beta' to just 'update beta' and keep 'force' for updating to the master.
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: is it possible to add quest timer to the stat window in mush?
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: why is my wireless laptop faster download from a networked computer samba share than a wired supposedly gigabit wired connection (granted behind a gigabit switch).
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: sucky cable, laptop has faster hdd?
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Oh interesting
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It might be I was saving to my magenetic drive you are right.
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: will have to test.
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Any way to test faultiness of cable?
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: not really. you'd need a cable tester for the connections, but otherwise not really. just check the speeds
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: could also be the ethernet adapter on your laptop is slower then the wifi
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Easier to switch cable out and check that way than get a cable tester.
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: You *should* be able to saturate SATA III with a gigabit connection, but if it's spinning rust, the drive might be fragmented, too. I'm assuming you're copying a large amount of data there, of course.
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: Spinny drives are crap at random writes (and reads) compared to SSDs. ;p
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: if the data is going to the same drive but from two different network methods, its likely not the hdd
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mischanner Epsilon rapidly nods twice at PenguinGod Galoth, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah not the same drive.  Downloading a file to each computer
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: oh then yeah possible
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: Okay, that's how I was reading it. Same source, different destinations.
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: i was thinking same source and destination, different transmission
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: hrm. My memory's obviously faulty. You should be able to saturate any SATA with gigabit.
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mischanner Epsilon shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: need some help. when i load mush, it says constant.lua is missing error.. how can i fix it? i cant find the constant.lua file anywhere. even in the backup folder.
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Draskier Tech: Is there a way to configure your arrow keys to work like the numpad? Haven't seen anything in the configs yet
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dervisha Tech: mine seem to by default
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Draskier Tech: You're able to use your arrows to move around, etc? Could just be my client 
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dervisha Tech: oh not to move, the scroll the command line
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Draskier Tech: ahhh- solid
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: \\\Accelerator("Up", "n")
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you may also want to change arrow functions in Game --> Configure --> Input --> Commands --> Keyboard preferences
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Draskier Tech: I do use the accelerators quite a bit- missed those keyboard prefs though. Thanks for the help!
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Deswrath: I think you need to know what is looking for that file
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: And are you sure it's not constants.lua plural?
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I can't remember, how do you reset Mush windows? I have one that went too high and can't drag it back
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: aard layout restore <name>
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: or aard layout reset if you havent saved anything
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: you can also lock your layout which will prevent movement of windows if you so desire
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: type aard layout help to see all the commands
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: thank, I tried aard layout reset, and I received the following, current layout lock status UNLOCKED
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: or just aard layout, will do same as aard layout help
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: i suggest getting your layout the way you like it and saving it so you can always return to it
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If the window is not part of the Aardwolf package, then resetting it with aard layout won't work.
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: good point, i forgot to mention that
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What window is out of bounds for you, Pif?
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I'm getting the same message if I do aard layout reset, aard layout, and aard layout help
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: the one that lists the mobs on cps and gqs
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: I had that happen once, was walked through editing something to lower it, is a pain, be careful when dragging!
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, what version of AardMUSH do you have?
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You must have an old version of SnD, then, definitely not mine.
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: 4.1 mush
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nah, I mean Aardmush. Type 'checkversion'
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: can try xset reset gui for older snds
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: think it was conw window for me
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: yeah I got mine straight from winklewinkle when he was developing
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: xset did it!
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: thank you all, it was driving me nuts!
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loquacious Lexicon Tech: does anyone use tintin?'
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loquacious Lexicon Tech: I am trying to get the map to build a speedwalk to the closest room that I can portal or recall out of. right now, it builds a speedwalk all the way to recall
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: its been years since I've done anything tintin.
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Piffaron: If you switch to mine, it's Winkle's SnD, but it's been greatly improved. "help snd' for more info.
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I don't know that Tintin users really care to help other tintin users. Three people in the past couple weeks have mentioned tintin, but no one on tech channel has stepped up to help. :p
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Lexicon: Finger Ixle. He had some tintin scripts. I think Cheezburger, too.
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, same address (not same person, though)
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: how do i gag others getting exp?
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: PK them!
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: constintaly
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: use a trigger and regex to match those lines and omit them
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I don't think you can.
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: omg the spam!
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Do it client side
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Trigger off the line and gag it
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: 1 line for 1 player?
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Doesn't that still give you a black line?
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: spamreduce groupexp
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: omg thanks Wrilley!
T3/r7/2023-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: there's a bunch of other spamreduce options too =)
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: how can i delete a direction from a room in mapper?
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: im not sure about command but if u right click on the room in the bigmap, u can do it there
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: you can do it right-clinkin on the map
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: or using mapper help to get syntax
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Methuselah Zensch nods at Korendir.
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: bigmap have the command but there is no exit to my west. mapper shows there is a room there..
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: so i exit level lock the west to 300 and it worked...
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: is there mapper or snd saying  There was 1 match which I could not find a path to within 300 rooms: ?
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: That's the mapper telling you that
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: mapper
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: which area?
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: deadlights
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: easiest to fix - get a portal
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: it usually just means u lack a cexit or its a maze
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: hmm, not really?
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: for mazes the info is you could not find a path
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: for 300+ rooms, the path is too long
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: eg. when you know how to get to icefall, but it is too long
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: or maybe same msg for both
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: oh, so im lacking the cexit?
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: its 100% but i cant snd there
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: check where you have xset mark set for deadlights
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: i cant xrt deadlights but i cant nx to it
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: i can xrt deadlights but i cant nx to it
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: must be missing some cexits
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: type mapper cexits here, then compare to map
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: lol i got none
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: thanks all!
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: do i need AQ to enter glowing portal in deadlights to get to the battlefield of armageddon?
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: 1) no, 2) wrong channel
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: yeah wrong channel . sorry
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: i'd like to setup a trigger that prints in color a variable. How do I go about doing this?
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: is there a command opposite to dinv wear?
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: organize maybe? but you need to set it up
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: remove all?
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: what you need it to do?
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: remove all will not put items back to their containers
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: possible store
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: dinv store all - works excellent :)
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: anyone else having problems pulling up the aard wiki?
T3/r7/2023-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Fine for me
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: anyone successful with using shindos bt quests and ah?
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: what does xcp quest does exactly? 
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I can only guess, but if you have both a quest ande campaign active, presumably, it targets your quest mob since if you just do xcp, it'll target the first campaign mob you have yet to kill on your campaign.
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: how do you detect if a Themed MiniWindow has been closed by the user pressing the X?
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if the window no longer exists
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: how do I detect that?
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: several ways...
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: all of the member values of your_window should be set to nil, so like your_window.id would be nil
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if you have the ID stored separately as a variable or if you're pulling it from your plugin ID or something that persists, you can also check WindowInfo(the_id, 1) and that should also return nil
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: cool, thanks :)
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: Seems Signal will "soon" no longer communicate with anyone NOT on signal..? 
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hasn't that been coming for a while?
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: they're just dropping standard SMS support
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: Looking for assistance with DINV.  It keeps wanting me to wear my level 140 Aard-dags instead of my 160s when using Dinv Set Wear/Display.
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: dinv tries to find the best equipment for you to wear to max the stats you have set for priority
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: which means it may not always wear the max equipment you have for any level, if you over max a stat it will change to a lower equipment in order to max more stats
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: you should also make sure you have done a dinv refresh periodically if you get new equipment or change/modify equipment
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: I get it.  But it will make me wear level 140 aardweapon instead of level 160 aardweapon.  Is that to maximize stats?
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: does your 140 weapon hit harder than your 160? :)
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It's probably because you died recently and you need to refresh before dinv will use the other weapon.  Try "dinv refresh all" and see if that changes it
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yeah. something that you have of a priority is being met better by a combo of your 140 weapons and $something_else
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You also need to refresh if a temper or envenom has been added or wears off.  That might be why dinv isn't using the "better" weapon
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah i find a dinv refresh all ususing fixes stuff that doesn't make sense
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: To be clear: Did 'dinv refresh all', did 'dinv analyze create (name)', dinv set wear/display will make me wear my level 140 aardweapons (two of them,not enchanted) over my level 160 aardweapons (two of them, not enchanted).
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If the stats on your 140 are weighted heavier than the stats on your 160, DINV will assume you want to max out the stats from your 140, then consider secondary stats.
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: are they the same type of weapon? it took me longer than i'd like to admit to realize i wasn't wearing axes because i hadn't gotten axes skill yet this tier
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (or if you have more stats on your 140 than your 160).
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: These are virgin aardweapons, no stats.
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: the last resort is to forget the weapon in dinv and refresh again
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: For Ans, they're all daggers.
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: another less likely possibility is that the 160 weapons are in a bag that is closed or in a bag that is owned by someone else (a spouse?) or that you have them in a bag that you told dinv to ignore (see "dinv help ignore")
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: also i think i increased my ave dam wieght for weapons so i always wield the highest dam weapon over trying to max stats
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: My recommendation would be to see if dinv even knows the weapons exist by doing:  dinv search type weapon level 160
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: if dinv doesn't know they exist, then we can figure out why.  If dinv knows they exist but is choosing other weapons then that will lead us down another path
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: Will 'dinv refresh all' fix the problem if the search for lvl 160 (weapon type) comes up zero?
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: whoever wrote dinv is a mega genius
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: Durel.  He's the genius, and he's online right now
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: Send him a tell to thank him.
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: it will unless one of the following is true:  1) they are in a closed bag  2) they are in a bag owned by someone else  3) they are in an ignored bag  4) they are invis and you don't have detects up
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: Trying 'dinv refresh all' again.
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If THAT fails, you can try 'dinv build confirm' again (though the refresh really should take care of that).
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: that remind me Durel someone aska question the other day I wascurious they wanted to know if dinv would put all your worn gear back where it belonged without wearing new gear? can you do that with dinv store?
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: yep, before I remort I just do "dinv store all" to put everything away back in the most recent bag it came from
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: sort of the opossite of dinv set wear?
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok cool
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: well thats what i said but i wasn't sure if it would work  :)
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: holly cow I did not know that after remort I used to individual put my 200 gear back one by one
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: never tried it
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: you can "dinv get ..." to pull items matching the search query out of whatever bags they are in, "dinv put ..." to put items matching the query somewhere specific, or "dinv store ..." to put items matching the query back into their most recent container.  All three modes have their uses
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Selitos nods.
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: thx
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i just used to dinv set wear ranger 1 and it would replace my lvl 200 set with my lvl 1 set then i would remort
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: you can also use the "dinv organize" mode (see "dinv help organize") to assign particular types of items to specific bags.  Then you can tell dinv to organize your inventory and it will put things where you want.  For example, it could put portals in one bag, potions in another, gear from level 1 - 100 in another bag, gear from 101 - 201 in another, etc.
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: but i like store all prob simpler
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: since the dinv questions are coming out :) Can i ask if its possible to have a wear-slot ignored by a priority configuration please?
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: Dinv sees my aard-daggers when I do 'dinv search dagger', still won't wear the highest level that I can.
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: neeper: i think you do a ~ in front of the slot name
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: so ~head
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: Does Dinv set wear/display account for Tier bonus?
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Neeper: You can, but it's slightly more complicated.  You need to edit the priority you are using.  See "dinv help priority" on details and see "dinv priority display psi-defense" for an example of how to disable the "second" offhand wearable slot.
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yes, it accounts for tier bonus
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: VaalVanir: One other thought: Are you specifying a specific level in the dinv wear command?  If so, you don't need to and it will calculate the best gear for your current level adjusted for tier.  If you specifically ask for a L160 set then I don't recall if it does the tier adjustment in that case...I wrote it ages ago :p
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: OMG!!! That's why
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Reyn Tech: if you specify a lvl, dinv doesnt adjust for tier
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: Thanks guys.  Problem solved.
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I kind of regret giving the option to specify particular levels in the wear command.  It was meant more as a debug feature than something for people to use frequently.
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Dinv knows your current level and tier and will figure things out automagically so you shouldn't ever *need* to give a specific level
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: not quite accurate... if you have trigger on level up message and do dinv set wear xxxname then dinv will wear stuff 1 level below because it didn't recieved/processed gmcp packet with updated level yet. so you either need to wait or specify correct level+tier*10 to dinv set wear there
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's true athlau.  Dinv gets its level info from the gmcp plugin so if your trigger fires before gmcp is updated then dinv won't know about your recent level up.  You can either add a short wait before your call to dinv or do what I should have done ages ago and update dinv to watch for a gmcp broadcast to get the real info :p
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: i just wait.make... and delay 10 seconds :)
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: My excuse for not doing that is that I prefer to update gear when I know it's safe and I don't want my gear swapping out if I happen to level up in the middle of a big fight :p  Yeah, I'm just rationalizing it, but I'm going to stick with that :p
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: Durel where is your donation page?
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: My lazy solution is to update gear as part of my quest request or campaign request alias
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: I still have two kidneys
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: lol, no donation needed :p
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I just do dinv set wear at different milestones
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Principium nods at Omphalon.
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: very satisfying to watch dinv strip everything off me, sort it all away, and put my new set on at 91 or whatever
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: with the lua json module, is there some way to gracefully handle invalid json strings? json.decode throws an error, and to my knowledge there's no way to catch it
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: how can i persuade dinv to use keyring as a container?
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: sure, it treats the keyring as a container by default
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: dinv store all takes all my items from keyring
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I think most people tell dinv to ignore the keyring though.  See "dinv help ignore"
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: as a keyring related aside, if you use dinv organize it helps to throw some ~type Key and ~flag iskey on your rules 
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: so dinv doesn't sort things off the keyring
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: thanks, ignore option is waht i needed
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: found the answer, pcall allows you to call a function and handle errors
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm. Apparently Fiendish's #sub plugin does not allow for multiple wildcards: #sub {Foo: (\w+) Bar: (\w+)} {Bar: %2 Foo: %1} #regex -- should return "Bar: exam Foo: test" when entering "echo Foo: test Bar: exam", but instead, it returns: "Bar:  Foo: test"
T3/r7/2023-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here I guess
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: Mush help available? :P
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: just updated to latest version and getting errors with resizing windows
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what error
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: and did you quit before the update?
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: Let me try to quit
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Hey Fiendish I think you use vscode?  Do you just have it ignore the builtin mush globals or is there a way to declare the things so the completion knows they exist?
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: priority -100 :P just asking
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I just ignore the underlines
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: Seems like I should consult the plugin writer instead, no problem.
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it's the same as how setting the interpreter to Lua doesn't know what to do with the xml scaffolding
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: thanks Fiendish
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Kers: which plugin?
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: a modified version of the group miniwin
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: modified to do what
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: do other plugins error?
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: does the main output area error?
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: To configure specific people to monitor, or only people in room :P
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: https://pastebin.com/h0i2dXiz
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if y'all cared to submit modifications to me then you wouldn't have to maintain a separate version
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: Just an end-user! :D
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: uh huh
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: How would you want a modification? Just a pr on github?
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: HA! I just learned the ID 10 T error from my IT friend the other day.
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: PRs on github are a very good way 
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: That being said, it would be good if the group miniwin have some intelligence to only monitor people in the room. Also the currently output takes up a lot of space. It could be significantly collapsed so that we can see more within a typical laptop screen estate.
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: hallelujah
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: only in room I understand, but what would you collapse?
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: I would collapse into 1 line per player
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: showing what?
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I think it could show the same stuff. Maybe without the gauges? Scroll support would be nice. I would also like a pony.
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: Here is a comparison... Someone modded mine for epic purposes because my eyes were going absolutely blind but you can tell a big difference: https://imgur.com/a/8sZj0Y8
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: But on your side, I rather these be publicly maintained
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so level, name, hp, and qt?
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: if mana is desired, it probably has to take another line? :x
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: but otherwise, this has been pretty sweet so far from a visual standpoint
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: definitely seems like the sort of thing that someone should feel bad for not sending back to me
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: or even asking for
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: Guy's left. Intuition did this :P
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: gofer isn't gone
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: i want to have trigger to use prs + train stats, how can i do it?
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: alias*, not trigger
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What is 'prs'?
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: priest?
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: why would the same image saved as from an email attachment change by multiple KB in filesize when downloaded like 15 minutes apart?
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: its not the same file? is it actually the image? or some sort of error/holding page that might have changed content?
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: same image, same process (i'd just forgotten lol :-/) only EXIF data that's different is JFIF resolution
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: and you're downloading from the same email in the same email account?
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: yes 
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: i'll assume Google changed something on their backend, seems like a pretty safe bet. probably some intern
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: can somone tell me what's the problem with this regex?
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: ^You get \((.*?)\) (.*?) from the (.*?)?corpse of (.*?|^Zensch)\.$
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: you sorting bloot from your corpse?
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: remove carot fromn to Zensch
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: in front of Zensch*
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: this is my trigger to get all bloot from corpses and put into my junk bag, but i don't want to put my eq bloot there (when i die)
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: so ^Zensch is for - not when corpse of Zensch
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: carot signifies beginning of line start.
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: negation is '!' ?
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: how does that regex account for the articles "a" and "an" "You get an (enhancted) blue ball" Or whatever the line is?
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: can't you just use an or | modifier?
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: idk how to ! in regex for mush. but if you want to use a regex like the following, and use LUA to ensure the mob doesn't equal Zench, then I can help you with that code ^You get (?<prefix>\(.+\))?(?<item>.+)from the (?<blah>.*?)corpse of (?<mob>(.+))\.$ 
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: the ^ operator applies only to individual literals (characters)
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: if a variable IS a character, does that logically imply they HAve character? if so what language
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: probably the simplest way to do it is have another trigger that *does* match Zensch, and have it at an earlier priority with keep_evaluating turned off
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: many thanks, sorted :)
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: there are also lookahead assertions that may or maybe not work: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_expression#Assertions
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Methuselah Zensch nods.
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: all
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Mis.
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: anybody know of a good-ish program to track isp outages? i'm starting to get curious if there's a pattern lol
T3/r7/2023-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: seen a few but they're all paid, and i'm cheap+
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: how does one in sqlite match two columns in an entry? 
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Using AND?
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Select column1, column2 From table1 Where condition1 AND condition2
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: thx... had the and, but didn't need the match.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabled Abel Tech: does anyone have a mush plugin that turns the bottom bar a color when double happens similar to quests?
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not that difficult to write yourself. No need for a plugin, just triggers for the double events (easier if you have it in your prompt0.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabled Abel Tech: i'm not sure what part of mush controls the bottom bar color. 
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Send to Script: InfoBackground("colorname") Info("Double is on!")
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I tried that and it did noithing for me?
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: View -> Info Bar ticked?
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabled Abel Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabled Abel Tech: i can see my quest info and kill info.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Aah, thanks.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Abel: was referring to Yuna not being able to see it when I gave those instructions. :P
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fabled Abel Tech: ah. missed that
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's Yuna. As many problems as he's given me, I was inclined to miss that too.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley tickles Summoner Yuna.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But yes, Abel: InfoBackground("red"), for instance, will change the info bar to red.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Hmmm... anything I add in "Info" is just added to the info bar, doesn't replace what's already there. So just Double is on!Double is on!Testing!Many greetings!Nooooooo!, etc.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Use InfoClear() to erase what's there.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thank you.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: interesting i never used the info bar but i can see how it may be useful
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: 'Stay away from the summoner.. - random lady - ffx
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Dropkick that lady like you would a Blitzball.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: yes. make wakka proud
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Bring back multiple KotR from FF7.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: yep
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: are there other mush scripts that post stuff to the info bar?
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Speaking of, I need to go back and play FFX again. I loved it back on PS3. Mad that I can't bring my save from there to the PS5... I had the ultimate weapon for Tidus and Lula, arguably two of the hardest to obtain.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But of course, this is not the channel for it.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: just ask what's the best way to play ffx now and it's tech all the sudden!
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: hahah
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Wait, what does a yellow info bar mean? Nothing of note to report?
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: One of your plugins may already colorize the Info bar. Normally, it's gray/white.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Aah, I see.
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Choo~ Chou Tech: what is the function of "send to" of a trigger in a plugin?
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: there are different logical "places" a trigger can send its <send> text, by default it sends it as commands to the world, but you can send it to display on the output screen, or the alias engine, or the scripting engine
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: or some other more obscure places
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Choo~ Chou Tech: ok thanks!
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Choo~ Chou Tech: so where do i find "12" when i see the code send to="12" ?
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: you can find documentation here, under "Send-to locations": https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=SetTriggerOption
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Choo~ Chou Tech: thanks a lot!
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: hello, this is the quantum help desk.  how can i help you?
T3/r7/2023-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: have you tried turning it on and off at the same time?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: java.security.UnrecoverableKeyException: Password must not be null - what did I break
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it literally just told you the password must not be null
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: ok but its not null
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: computers don't lie
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: -Djavax.net.ssl.KeyStorePassword=password, do I need quotes or something
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: -Djavax.net.ssl.trustStorePassword=password, I am not a programmer or a code writer I am a manager with too much access
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: does the 'password' variable have anything stored in it?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: no idea, these are the password related lines in the startup arguments
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: well thats what you gotta figure out
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: well I get to make it up, how do I do that
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: 0h 20
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: password is always "beat it out of me, but may confuse brain further? 
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: I've got this busted old software that I managed to get working with non-oracle java and now I need to get it to use https instead of http
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what's wrong with only one http? why do you need more?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: and now why is my rdp session using 1920x1080 resolution instead of my laptop's 1600x900
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: more is better
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: no
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: fixed my rdp issue no thanks to aard imms
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: Remote Desktop?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: this is more of a ceremonial position
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: does anyone know how to get dinv working with mapper portals, I tried this -> mapper portal dinv portal use 2482828472 and when I try to use S&D to go to callhero's which is where this potal leads to it just does hold aura followed by enter, using dinv portal nnnnnnnnn works perfectly just not with mapper?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: dinv portal use id?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belden Tech: x-runto which plugin would that be a part of?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, that is SnD, the xrt.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But SnD has no bearing on mapper commands.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belden Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: so it's not possible to get SnD to work with both dinv and mapper
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Are you certain you do not have two portal commands to the same location? mapper portals callhero will tell you.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: SnD doesn't matter.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: just the one
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I perfectly use DINV and mapper with zero problems, so it's a matter of troubleshooting what your mapper thinks you are trying to do.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: When you type 'mapper portals callhero', it only shows the one, and it shows dinv portal use...?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: |   1 | callhero   | Decide your fate     | 33031 | dinv portal use 2482 |   0 |
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Did you recently get the portal wish, or do you have a hold item?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: no portal wish but I do hold an item
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And when you attempt to run to the area, the only action taken is entering the portal? It doesn't switch back to your hold item?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: if I do dinv portal use 2482828472 - it takes portal from bag hold it enters and removes and puts back in bag
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Right, but if you try 'mapper goto 33031', what does it do?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: ah it executes hold aura then enter
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But does not remove and put into bag.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: no thats the issue
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: seems to ignore the portal command dinv portal use nnnnn
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: my bad I found it
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: I somehow had a custom exit set up from recall to do hold aura enter
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: what a dummy
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's been one of those kinds of days.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: thanks Crowley
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sure thing. :)
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: now it works perfectly
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: Has anyone made a program to parse the mapper db into graphical maps? 
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: how graphical do you want it to be?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: I was thinking maybe a draw.io diagram since they have an ok API
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I mean, the GMCP mapper isn't mountains and trees, but it is colorful.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh, like export a picture?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: like an SVG?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: Yeah, an svg to automate graphical maps
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmmmm interesting
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think there is a plugin for that 
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: screenshot -> image vectorization tool?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: or if you just need a picture, you could always just use the screenshot directly
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but there _is_ a mushclient function to write the contents of a miniwindow to an image file
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: https://github.com/nohbdy/aardwolf-maps
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: oh wow, cool
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: someone has tried it
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: example: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/nohbdy/aardwolf-maps/main/gauntlet.svg
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but those look hand-made
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: not exported from the mapper
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: gauntlet one is most likely handmade
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I want trees and mountains and caves.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Neeper sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but readme should contain some info, at least there was some info on tech like "read readme" :P
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Though it would probably be labor-instensive, it would be cool if the background pic of the GMCP mapper updated to reflect those types of environments, to be honest.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: hmm that info looks like those maps were just hand-made
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I mean, the background already does change for areas, so maybe it won't be so labor-intensive. Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the hardest part of exporting from the mapper will be that the mapper does not rearrange rooms so that they're all visible
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so you'd have to add a dynamic arrangement algorithm for the room graph if you want the rooms of an area to all be visible
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: Hm, lot to think about here. Unfortunately just got called into a work meeting so will have to wait :'( I think it would be an interesting problem to solve
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish, while you are here, is there an easy solution to having #sub work with multiple wildcards (e.g. John dies at the end -> (\w+) dies at the (\w+) -> stores John to %1 and end to %2)?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, nice. After some research, ChatGPT is going to have a more powerful paid version at $20 a month. Waiting for my inevitable invite.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: I have 2 plugins, i'd like to call a trim function between them, if i use trim in alias/trig (in client) works fine. but when i call it from plugin i'm failing horibly. ideas/thoughts?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Your spelling of horribly fails, too. How are you attempting to call the trim function? Where is it stored at?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: roasted
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: homeboy missed on letter 'r' Crowley comes out swinging
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: is there a way to disable the mapper
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: one*
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: like make it so the mud doesn't send me a map
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Why would you want to do that, Dartan? Which mapper?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Dang it, Rhymes. You corrected yourself. I'm sad.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: trying to figure out what's bogging down my client
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: pretty hilarious i made that mistake though :D
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: i use the standard aard mushclient package
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can type 'automap' to turn off the map.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It will not update your ASCII map.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Busta Rhymes.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: trim funciton in plugin 1, want to call it in plugin 2
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: i've tried world.CallPlugin ("4d64df0a3f4bef3e7b50f77c", "all_trim", temp)) but comes up with garbage
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, are you doing CallPlugin("pluignID", "trim", variables)?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dartan thanks (Aleister) Crowley heartily.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What garbage does it come up with?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: a random # it appears
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: probably more if you used PluginID    bam!
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Are you sure you're not just trying to pound it? *shifty*
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ok i'll figure it out thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: instead of pluignID.. get it ;)
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Bloodthorn: pluign is correct. Get with the typo times.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: son of a gum
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Kerith, your description isn't fully helping, though. A random # appears?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: OH!
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Kerith!
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Do... local ignore, res = CallPlugin("pluginID", "all_trim", temp)
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I THINK CallPlugin returns two values, and you want the second one.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, 'res' should be what you want properly.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Anyway, I'm out! Later, all!
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What is the command to send messages and colours to the Status Bar, not the Info Bar?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish shrugs in response to (Aleister) Crowley's question.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: probably should just remake that plugin
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Yuna: no colors in the status bar, just text
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: what if i want to ask about running mushclient ...
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: sure
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The Status Bar can very much change colours. Crowley's SnD makes it red when your quest timer is at 0.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So I assume there must be a command for it.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: are you sure it's not the info bar?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The status bar will also read "Ready!" when you're able to quest, so I assume you can also send text to it.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It's definitely the Status Bar. I know this because I'm managed to make the Info Bar permanently orange somehow.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But the status bar changes from white (or light gray?) to red depending on my quest status.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: whats the status bar
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Once my quest timer runs out in 25 mins, I can send a screenshot to show you my Status Bar with custom colour and text.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you sure it's crowley's SnD?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I don't see anything in SND that alters the status bar
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: prolly some other plugin does that
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Hmmm... odd...
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'm also pretty sure that the status bar can only have text
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I wonder which plugin would even want to change my status bar to tell me I can quest besides SnD.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: do you have any of Hadar's plugins?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: i want a plug-in that will let me knowwhen GQs are declared for my current range
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: im not saying Hadar's does it, but I remember briefly having had the same thing before.
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Several
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: "yes"
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: drop Hadar a tell. he may know the answer
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I thought the Communication Log window did that already? It gags all GQ messages for upcoming GQs that aren't in your range (unless some other plugin I have does that)?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: or remove one at at time and see
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: comm log does not gag anything
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: well...not anything based on level rules
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Hmmm... I wonder which plugin of mine does that then...
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: it's the other way around... server doesn't send you GQ message if you're out of range
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: help global quests shows this: The 'global' channel announces all upcoming gquests
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: read the help file for more info
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: what's the command to check mush client version ?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Version()
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: "package update check"   or   "checkversion"
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish tells Orphean the academy is a waste of time, then asks "Wut is xp? Can I play dis on vista too?!?!"
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: danke
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: orphean: the version of mushclient itself is never useful
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: bb updating :)
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: rip me, was the first thing that popped into my head
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zenso Tech: Crowley SnD having a hard time with roomnotes, can't process an alias when checking notes from the table list.  Is this known to anyone?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Aah, I misremembered. Status Bar doesn't change colours, just shows messages. How do you make the status bar show a message, then?
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: SetStatus
T3/r7/2023-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Hey Fiendish, I'm getting close to being finished with a declarations file for the mushclient api. Informs the language server about all the global tables, functions, etc and lets it provide completion and some (basic) inline documentation. That something you would want included in the official aardmush package? It's pretty useless to anyone not writing plugins.
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: how big is it?
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Not gigantic, few hundred k
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I can just throw it up on a repo, just wanted to ask
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yeah. put it up. I'll try it out
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: cool thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I know you probably don't need it but squiggle lines make me sad, and I like completion and basic type checking for params
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: is there a function to check if im lagging instead of a straightforward isConnected boolean?
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: check for lag? you can try `ping aardmud.org` in your terminal
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do you write an if clause for "If currently in room X, do Y"?
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: to require gmcp helper
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: if gmcp("room.info.num") == "28352" then
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: require("gmcphelper");if gmcp("room.info.num")) == <room num> then blah end
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks. Also, how do you clear custom text you've sent to the status bar? StatusClear gives me an error.
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Or rather StatusClear()
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: isn't it  InfoClear() 
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's the info bar.
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ahh wasn't sure they were the same or not
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do you do a "if in room X or Y, then" if clause?
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Just a comma?
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: Does anyone eles ever have the issue in woodelves where mappe wants to tray to take you through the locked door near the starting room, so it always messes up the goto directions?
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miscreant Omnivek Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: you can set an exit lock to prevent that
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: or just get the key
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just change exit from that room
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: that key is permanent BTW - if you have item space, you can just leave it on your keyring forever
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: so easy to fix. thank you very much Sath.
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: np (though reyn is right, I'd just grab the key)
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: Oh, i didn't know that. I think I must have dropped it long ago... haha
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it's a wand of earth displacement found on peryana at 32140
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: done
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: trying to use powershell to silently install an installshield setup.exe in the background. I do setup.exe /s /v"/qn", get a UAC prompt, hit yes, then nothing seems to happen
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: so far you haven't done anything with powershell :p
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: I assume that "nothing" also means "it doesn't install" :V
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: so ... its working?
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mischanner Epsilon nods at Mannec.
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: Otherwise, yeah, sounds like it's working as expected :V
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: "BUG: my silent install is too quiet"
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: ;)
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: well yeah it doesn't install, I think I through a start-process at the beginning one time and that didn't work
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: Also what Anssett said - you're barely using powershell there ;p
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: I have no idea what I'm doing pls help
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mischanner Epsilon snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: First thing I'd try is seeing if it installs *without* the silent switch.
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: next thing would the question "what do you need powershell for in this"
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: Because if it's choking somewhere else in the process, you're suppressing any output that says so.
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: To be fair, Powershell is the new command prompt as far as Microsoft is concerned. ;p
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: yep, I remove the silent parameter, I hit yes at UAC, then it launches the installshield
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: (also if it can wait until monday and i remember i can find my work stash of PS installer scripts)
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: a better question might be, why hasnt the sysadmin already disabled the powershell malware?
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: Right, but does it install?
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mischanner Epsilon snickers with Mannec about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: check task manager for a setup process after running the silent install
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: there should be a new one
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: check event manager for installation failure logs, maybe whoever configured it enabled logging
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i think installshield also has a native installer log flag
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: (but i sure don't remember its syntax)
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Antifa Raded goes, "Hmmmm," but louder.
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: well it's after 5PM on a Friday, I was hoping for a quick fix, so we may need to revisit this on Monday
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: thank you for responding
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: anyone else a smidge laggy?
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't De Cide Tech: little bit but no more than usually
T3/r7/2023-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: -
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: anyone familiar with using dinv / dinv priority etc?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HereComeDe Smudge Tech: Hopefully an easy one: I recently upgraded, and no longer have a tick timer. Is that a mushclient thing, or did I have a plugin I'm overlooking perhaps?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: is there a way to save a newly created trigger or alias without closing mushclient?  for example, if i just created one alias, and don't close mushclient, ... and let's say mushclient crashes, it loses the alias i just made.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the tick timer went away and then came back in a slightly different form at some point.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you may need to re-add the plugin
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Negader, just save the world.  File->Save World Details  or floppy disk button on the toolbar.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: its called aardwolf tick timer, check if its in your plugin list, if so it might be behind something
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you may also need to type "aard tick help"
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zenso Tech: Negader, ctrl+s should do that I think.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: thank you Orphean. 
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: i tried ctrl-s before. but it didn't work i dont' think
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: it worked for me
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: mis on the last tech 
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spellup Roninleader Tech: Is there a way to get Mush to do my taxes?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: technically or practically?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: your clan taxes are automatically deducted and accounted for you via roster in aardwolf *nod self
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'm going to automate myself out of existence.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: auto-imm (TM)
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://imgur.com/a/5Q9FmGP
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: Fiendish, the maker of Skynet
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: that was my question :)
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I know
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://imgur.com/a/ucsBoUt
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Antifa Raded goes, "Hmmmm," but louder.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: do one that writes me a script to automatically reconnect if the client goes 120 seconds without seeing a tick
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerith is agreeing with that Antifa Raded person again...
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://imgur.com/a/hnKzY2Y
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: this is almost correct
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: lol the picture says copy the text lolz :P
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: whats not correct?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: OnTick and OnIdle are wrong
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: looks good to me
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: also GetTime is wrong
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but it's conceptually right
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: what should they be instead?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: https://imgur.com/a/xgcaZ2s
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: weird that mine did it so differently
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: maybe because you specified lua?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: lol wtf is "RegisterEventHandler"
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: wait you didnt
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: worthless AI I just want my script
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: wait so do you need both of those or just the 2nd one? now i'm confused
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://imgur.com/a/CU3UjNZ
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I think this is correct
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but I had to help a bit
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: thank you for writing this script for us
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: if string s = "Negader       Level 201", what's the best way to extract the name from string s? 
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Use string.gsub, probably.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: ok i'll look that up thank you
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: For that case you could just do something like string.match(s, "^(%w)%s*.*$")
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: print(string.gsub("Negader         Level 201", "^(%w+).*", "%1"))
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Returns Negader.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: yeah six of one, half dozen of the other
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: ok :)
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: which plugin is the gmcp handler?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the one called gmcp handler
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: lol i was looking for "aardwolf gmcp handler" lolz me
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: do i have to include some code for reconnect? attempt to call global 'Reconnect' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish (
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: :(
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I guess you have to Disconnect and then Connect
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: I was disconnected, then plugin tried to fire and got that error
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: use Disconnect() + Connect() instead of Reconnect
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: and say that it came from chatgpt :)
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: here's a follw up question:  if string s = "Negader       Level 201", Can i extract the name and level (number vaule) using a single line? if so, how?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: regex ought to be able to grab it. 
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: i'm sure, but i don't know how to write regex to grab both.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: negader: try asking chatgpt how!
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it'd be a match on something like ^(a-zA-Z)+\w+Level\(\d+\)$ ... off to check that now bc i'm curious how good i eyeballed the pattern haha
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: oh no parens around level
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: ewp
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yeah don't use that pattern at all *grin
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ok tested - does not work when connected but autotick off, but does work when disconnected - https://github.com/Uagr/Aardwolf/blob/main/Aardwolf_Reconnector.xml
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: doesn't work? :(
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: does when disconnected, but not when connected with tick off
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you need to receive ticks obvs
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerith nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: but fact it works when disconnected = the win :)
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: guess now i needa figure out how to autologin lolz
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it should work :(
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: negader: ^([a-zA-Z]+)\s+Level (\d+)$ - can replace the ([a-zA-Z]+) with Negader if you only want it to work for you :P grabbing the matches from that regex is gonna be based on how you do your string matching. with lua you might have to use a lua match format rather than regex, depends on what you're using for matching. https://regex101.com/ is a great resource for testing regexes, less so for lua matching
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: it does when disconnected, not sure how to test connected but not getting gmcp ticks tho
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: i can do regex i regex101.com, but i don't know how to write in lua expression to capture the string as values.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I wonder why disconnect isn't disconnecting you :(
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: http://lua-users.org/wiki/PatternsTutorial is a good start on that neg
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: it shouldn't disconnect me as long as it's getting ticks while connected, counter resets, know how to test staying connected but not getting gmcp ticks?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: would just disabling ticks work?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: why would you want to disable ticks?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: i wouldn't, but for testing the disconnect() feature :p
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: gmcp ticks should come even with autotick off
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: oh i can disable gmcp handler right? unless disconnect/connect are in there
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it won't let you
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: lol ya noticed - You are not allowed to disable the GMCP_handler plugin. It is necessary for other plugins.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: well if connected you should be getting ticks, so have to assume the disconnect part works unless some serious lag (onlyway i can think to test it)... but the reconnect part works so i think its a win
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: using string.find i can write what i needed to do, but just wante to learn how to do it with regex.  it seems numbers can be extracted with %d+, but seems words require %1 for some reason.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: ah. string.find can't use regex.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: if you match in mushclient triggers you can use regex, otherwise it's lua pattern stuff
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: I think %w can be used for words? i could be wrong
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: It can but it's not full regex
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: mush does ship with a pcre wrapper by Nick Gammon if you really, really wanted regex
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: ok let me clarify, i can write what i needed to using without regex, with using string.find   But wanted to learn how to use regex and string.match
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I have code that will turn a lua pattern into equivalent regex that works for everything except for the frontier pattern
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i think you just do like i,j = string.match(input_string,pattern)
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: if you're expecting 2 matches
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: is there a way to disable autoconnecting in the MUSH package? Connection->Auto Connect is disabled, but my client still auto connects
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: do you mean autoconnect or auto-login?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: auto connect
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: because I don't want my client to connect when I start up mushclient
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: File->General Preferences has a tab for worlds to open at startup
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Global Preferences
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you can remove your aardwolf world file from it
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I want to be able to open the aardwolf world file without connecting
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: because I have plugins that do things while the mud isn't connected, and I want to be able to test/use them without also connecting
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: global preferences -> general -> autoconnect to world on open?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: disabled.
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: as in it's disabled, but my client still autoconnects
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yeah...
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: is it built in to one of the mush package plugins?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: aard_new_connection.xml
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you can probably disable it
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: cool, thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: er, maybe
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: maybe not
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hahahahaha
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I can at least comment out Connect()
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: until you update
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I don't update
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh, well then
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: shouldn't this work? I'm getting blanks "lua require 'gmcphelper';gmcpstatus = gmcp("state");print(gmcpstatus)" - i changed // to lua for me
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ^tried in afk mode too
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you want "char.status.state"
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: thx!
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: hmmf dont think state is right on login https://imgur.com/a/T3ULtgF shouldn't it be 1?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: gmcp state is wrong sometimes
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I think it's also wrong around exiting notes
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: well thats a sad state!
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: is there a good example for starting/using a db? cause lets just say non gold cps are a pain :)
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=database
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: chatgpt gave me an answer, but i had to fix the answer.  and this works.  name, level = string.match(s, "(%w+)%s+%w+:%s(%d+)")
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: what is this chatgpt
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: chat.openai.com
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: tx
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zenso Tech: Why would a mapper goto work when typed directly but fail as an alias, both as a MUD alias and a client alias?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: send to execute?
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: won't work in the mud, it's not using mud commands
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: it cannot be mud alias...
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zenso Tech: ok, that did it, and yah that makes sense.  Thank you
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: only took me 4 tiers to realize the S&D circle is red and green when you are ready for next campaign
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: ok everyone, quick, give your best snd tips
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: cool, eh? like the traffic lights...
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: you can right click Go, to go to the first room of the area, kinda sometimes
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: use xms to find specific mobs
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: what's the diff between ms and xms
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: I think xms is just an alias of ms
T3/r7/2023-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PenguinGod Galoth Tech: xset kw (keyword) lets you change the keyword for your selected mob so you can make it more specific or work better. like with named stuff, you can exclude the title stuff. Galoth, the penguin of death can be changed to Galoth
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zenso Tech: The Mush client graphical map is starting to glitch out a bit, chunks of the map not showing up until I walk into or near them.  Is there some kind of a reset for that?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: could be simply because the rooms would be displayed at the exact same spot.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zenso Tech: I mean like in Aylor, the top half of the map is blank until I walk north of recall, then it all pops back in
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that seems more like memory related, have you tried restarting mush?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: I haven't paid to close attenton to that exact area, but I think it is the same for me too.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zenso Tech: I haven't I'll try a reset yah.  This is new, just started happening.  Typically the whole area is lit up.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zenso Tech: L:ooking good now I think, thanks.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i notice my mapper updown setting doesn't save over mush restart, nay way to make it save?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: One thing to remember is to explicitly save, i.e. Ctrl+S
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: I've had a lot of problems remembering to do that in the past. ;p
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah i save when i make changes but that doesn't save the setting
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: Is there a best practice for passing tables between aliases?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If the aliases are local to each other (same plugin, or MUSHclient), they have access to the same table without issue.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Selitos: As far as updown setting, ask Fiendish about that. It's hard to imagine he wouldn't allow it to save, so maybe he missed a setting somewhere.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: yeah I was being an idiot, is global between
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: ignore me
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I can confirm, by the way, that it didn't save.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: is there a way to make mapper notes have a clickable room number (for mapper goto) in them?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: if i wanna set it up in the aardwolf client to sign me in when I boot, how to??
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Game->Configure->Connecting. Put in your username/password and set type to Diku
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Errors Tech: hmmmm
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: hmmmm
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: ahhh set to dikkku
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish, is mapper updown config supposed to reset each time you open MUSH?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: no. it will be fixed in the next release
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/commit/6b81050e1fe8da6970a15506325d22988ca9812e
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I figured as much. :)
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I mean..."supposed to", sure, what's supposed to anyway. But it won't be supposed to after the next release.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, by logic of the code, it is supposed to not save. I suppose the question should have been, "Was it your intention to have mapper updown not save across opening?" Speak directly of your intention, not the code. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I probably just never thought about it
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: manno i need to remap my ui on this client
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: ugh
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what do you want to revamp? :)
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: (also type checkversion plz)
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: omg gamechanger - misc change: GMCP mapper notes now display with Simulate instead of Note.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: expand?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: purty peas?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: it's game changer for some... :P
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: why is this a gamechanger?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: right now I going through a toot for the first time I feel goosebuymps
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: cause my plugin can strip out some parts of notes and display hyperlinks and what's not
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: finally busted down and opened my chatgpt 3 plus research api account
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: ahhhhhh smexy
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: perhaps im slow, but what are the advantages of using simulate instead of note?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: although need to update it, cause this change is out finally :)
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: u been awaiting?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: asked fiendish for it and he was kind to make it live as usual
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: simulate uses the trigger engine, note doesn't
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: i memeber that name
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: you can write triggers now which will fire of mapper notes....
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: on teh gotos
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: whoa
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: trigger off mapper notes seems cool but also kinda scary
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: seems like it would have fangs
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: not really... if all you do is post a hyperlink based on mapper notes via that trigger
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: sure...but i just mean it makes it kinda easy to exploit and break botting rules
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: it was always easy...
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: curse -h
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: whooops
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: WOW!
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: how do i set the alerts in the client to not piss me off every 5 minutes?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drosid Tech: this bell gonna give me a 
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: does anyone know if GetReceivedBytes() will only get larger and largwr? when will it be resetted to 0 or even go negative?
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: If more bytes than 2147483647 have been received, the number will wrap around and become negative.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh, actually, for Lua it looks like the number is higher
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but even that lower number is a quie large amountt
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: quite large amount
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i would be very impressed if someone managed to funnel UNSIGNED_INT_MAX bytes through a mud client.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: well it's signed int, because...uhh...reasons I guess. Except for Lua it's a double, so much larger
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: you said larger than signed.  so i guessed.  impressive, either way.  also, why would anyone be counting bytes with a floating point number? thats just jank.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Lua's native type is double
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ... i guess it would work until you ran into precision limits, but still - eww.
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: i dont understand but i grt the idea :/ tks!
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it safely represents at least all integers between -9007199254740992 and 9007199254740992
T3/r7/2023-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: mmm.  ok, that would also be a decently impressive throughput :p
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: I tried to program recall into mapper. It shows up in the portals list red and says nomap.
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: whats your portal command?
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: red is normal
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: red is fine. nomap is not.
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: hmm I just typed in mapper portal recall while standing in my recall room. It's a closed clan room where recall takes me.
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: is your clan mappable?
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: yeah some clan areas are not mappable
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: ya, guess not. 
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: is down from your clan recall aylor recall?
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: map it to recall semi-colon d
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: smart
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: I finally download the newest mush updated my 2004 version.  It all looks good except the big graphical map is missing. I tried restaard and that didn't show up any suggestions?
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: i'm not sure, but try help bigmap
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I'd try "bigmap reset" and "bigmap unmerge". Then toggle it on and off. And bigmap merge at the end.
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Just a reset basically
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: the big map wasn't the correct window ha. Basically it looke like the regular room mini window, but its clickable and such a little more detailed.
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: in that case try: mapper show
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: awesome that worked thanks!
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Great!
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zenso Tech: is there a reason a runto from recall would try to send me through a down exit three steps in when there isn't one?  It's only doing it on a couple of runtos, not everything though
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: clan hall moved or changed maybe
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: may be trying to go through a clan exit that doesn't exist any more
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: or you've a cexit configured at recall accidentally?
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zenso Tech: sorry, it's an xrunto from SnD that's busted, runto is correct, my bad
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yea "runto" uses mud data. snd uses mapper data
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zenso Tech: ok seems like it might have been a manually or accidentally added d exit, awk
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zenso Tech: ty much
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anyone want to join my group for a second to help me test something?
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: sure
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: no worries
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: i asked a day or two ago so hopefully i didn't miss an answer - but is there a way to put clickable mapper goto links in a mapper note?
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: I did find a trick for that - "mapper next #" will take you to the number in the list.
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: After you do a "mapper find" or whatever.
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: It's not a link, but it does make it so you type 1 number instead of a bunch of 'em.
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i added a "mapper note find" feature to my s&d which made clickable links
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: the use case that made me think of it was the stupid cataclysm AQ where you need to go to a few consecutive rooms to gather the keys. it'd be amazing to just go to the first one and then have clickable links in each room
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: not sure if there's a better way, it's super ugly but oworked for me
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: latest version uses simulate for notes, so you can trigger on them and make them into hyperlinks
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Reyn goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: how do i query what version of aard client the user is using?
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you mean from inside a plugin?
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yep
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it's in aard_lua_extras.lua
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: require "aard_lua_extras"   and then you get PackageVersion() and PackageVersionFull() and PackageVersionExtended() functions
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: oh ok cool
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i guess i can use >= assuming u keep using same version numbering for the rest of time
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I will keep going up, yes
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: if i want to upgrade my existing mushclient, what's the best way to do it?
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: type "package update check"
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: step 1) backup =)
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: thanks i'll read that
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: just quit mushclient and then point my latest installer at your mushclient folder.
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: mapper saves to the db independently of mushclient saving right?
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: ok cool ty
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: is there a way to toggle MUSHclient playing sounds?
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: sphelp
T3/r7/2023-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: if you're asking about the soundpack
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: not soundpack sounds, looking to mute any sound. i have lots of sound in triggers and want to mute the client from making sounds :/
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fyzzy Xyzzy Tech: how do I execute a lua command in immediate mode?  I seem to recall there being a way to do it, but can't remember how.
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ctrl+I?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not sure what you're asking.
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: /// ?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ctrl+I opens the "Immediate window" which is scripting.
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Epsilon: it's \\\, generally.
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: Ah. Sorry, I'm cross-eyed.
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear Mischanner Epsilon has been here just a second ago. You wonder where he went ...
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fyzzy Xyzzy Tech: that works... thanks ;)
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: my map mini window doesn't show the possible directions anymore, anyway to show those again?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: the ascii map? there is an option if you right-click it
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: yes thanks so much :)
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: the window doesn't resize, so sometimes ppl have to make it larger to see the exits
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: it showed up when I added it, so thanks again!
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: hook up third monitor or learn how to learn workspaces? 
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Both. 
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Make the third monitor vertical
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: for maximum visible scroll area
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: huge vertical monitors are not really convenient
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I like mine but it is on a swivel so can't disagree
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: it is good for coding
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faithful Ruhamah rapidly nods twice at Peacemaker Negader, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: basically you are unable to see top and bottom without moving your head
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: also good for Slack and email
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 1920x1200 horizontal is probably better - it gives enough lines and width to make those lines long enough
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean horizontal
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I have 1920x1200 horizontal + 1080x1920 vertical, though probablby 1200x1920 would be better, as 1080 is a bit too thin
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I have also 27" 2560x1440 - but for me pixels are too small, so I need scale everythin to 120% - and then those extra x1440 becomes like x1200, though horizontal width is still nice thing
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: I upgrated to latest version of mush.  i have a plugin that uses ez miniwin by fiendish.  the miniwin is now transparent.  what do i need to undo the transparency and make it opaque?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: what's the command to see how many players inline?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: who?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: online also works I guess
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: its always the simple answer, unless it's not...
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Does anyone know if there's a way to set a time zone for Tallimos' Epic Calendar so that it shows your local time instead of MUD time?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yep it's in the helpfiles for it
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I can't find it in ecal help
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: ecal tdif     - toggles hour display between mudtime and user's timezone
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh wait, I'm blind.
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yay somebody else did it instead of me this time heh
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: oh man so weird, i updated my mushclient and got a bunch of run-time errors for plugins
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: seems to have sorted itself out upon reboot though
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EmilyBrewer Tech: Do I have to do something special to get the snd vidblain fix to work? Even after toggling it off and on again I can't seem to xrunto sendhia
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: what's the command to have mush tell me the path to a specific room?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: mapper where [room #]
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: ty
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: Is there a way to get similar output but *without* portals? I know you can walkto.
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: hrm is there a way to do it where it ignores portals too?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mischanner Epsilon chortles mischievously at Dartan.
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: jinx
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: i use areia's portal manager so you can disable all your ports then try walking
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: assuming ref normal cps and gqs.. to ignore normal/live cp's you have to tell the mapper the portals are out of range (aka lvl 300) then change them back after the gq, or delete/readd them
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: yeah, I think the only option is "mapper walkto <room #>
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: Watching somebody do their homework from school composed by ChatGPT, 'hand' written on their 3d printer.
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: https://t.me/ChatGPT_by_OpenAI/1540
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: I upgraded to latest version of mush.  i have a plugin that uses ez miniwin by fiendish.  the miniwin is now transparent.  what do i need to undo the transparency and make it opaque?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: uhhh
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: did you set the transparent background flag on it? :)
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: it wasnt like that before the upgrade,  was written long ago so not sure.  there is a transparent flag?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I think there is now
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I usually try hard to not break backwards compatibility during updates
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: do you remember what version you came from?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: hold on let me check
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: it was : r2149
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: basic window or text window?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: not sure of yout question,  i have the miniwin in corner of my main window
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: even moved to anywhere else it is same, transparent.  makes it hard to read 
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what's on it?
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: actually...just send me the plugin file? I'll fix it and send back
T3/r7/2023-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Cool. I took a list of several lines (from info -h deaths) and asked ChatGPT to create several regexes to match the following, and it returned regexes for each different death line.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauric Tech: is there a way to change the font and size of the font in the MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yes, but depends on what you want to change. Output? Command line?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If it's output, go to the Game menu -> Configure -> Output, and look toward the middle.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: is there a way to prevent BT from reconnecting when problem with network?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: Bluetooth? British Telecm?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: Bittorrent?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: BlowTorch
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: Ahhh
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: is anyone familiar with Wolfram/Mathematica language?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: heh..not since undergrad
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: reckon it might've changed since then :P
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: is there a plugin that cna pop board posts out like helpfiles so I can kep reading them while I mash away at giants?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: can get the scroll one - which lets you keep doing things and "lock" part of screen u can scroll up/down
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: a the simple solution, I can just do that. thank you!
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I actually wrote a plugin that will pop out notes. I need to debug it some more, but I will eventually make it public. I just need to account for all the note options.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: how do i see what cmds mush is sending?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can echo the commands with 'echocommand'
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: thx, i can never seem to remembet the correct syntax for that cmd
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's the MUDside. If you want local echos, you can do that through Game -> Configure -> Commands
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok i have another problem... Mush is sending duplicate cmds but i cannot find the source of the duplicate. I can see the trigger for the first cmd. Any ideas on how to find the source of the seccond?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: prob the local echoes will help
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can turn on trace output, but you'll be spammed with every plugin sending commands.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: whats trace output?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Go to Game -> Trace. It'll create a new window you can access from the Window menu. It'll show you all the executions.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you know the trigger that is causing the duplicate output, you can search for the trigger in the trace. If it's an alias, make sure you do not have a local copy of the alias and a plugin using the alias.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: can try turning on command echo too maybe?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Kerith: You're about 5 minutes late into the conversation.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: holy F thats alot of spam
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok so about 50 plugins do something every tick....
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerith blames it all on (Aleister) Crowley!! What a LOOOSER!!
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: A lot of Fiendish's plugins do constant redraws.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: well i have to say that wasn't helpful...i can't make heads or tails of the spam
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What command is being doubled?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i get the plaza pass from my bag when i enter paradise
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: (late to the party on this) sometimes if i cant find a good starting point, i start turning on/off things one at a time. takes a bit but usually can get an accurate read on what to do
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That may be a custom exit issue. Go to the room before you pull the pass and check the exits.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah checked cexits i didn't put it in there either
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: mapper cexits paradise - only shows one instance of plaza pass?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: if it helps when i look in the room my trigger fires off the room name and get the pass, if i enter the room it duplicates the cmd and tries twice to get the pass from the bag
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's probably a poor mechanic, honestly. You're better off just using the cexit.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or if you have DINV, you can use the pass mechanic for that very reason.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: which your right seems like a cexit but i don't have one listed, plus it does it if i enter from outside or come up into the room
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i have a guess
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it's a trigger on the phrase "*a barren wasteland*"
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oooo...
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: bc the room desc has that in it as well as the room name
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: whats funny  is if i tunr the trigger i made off it doesn't do it at all
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, I bet Anssett is right.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: make the trigger ^A Barren Wasteland$ and enable regex? :P
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: hrm ok
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: or cexit it heh
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: did you say something about dinv being able to handle it?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yeah it's dinv pass i think
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: dinv pass, yeah.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: hrm let me look at that
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: sweet i like it
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: darn that Durel hes thought of everything
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: crowley still here?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: what is a good mapper plugin?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: aard_gmcp_mapper.xml
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: i mispoke, I want a maze solver.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: finger trachx
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: oh he didn't put it in his finger :P
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: nope
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: is there any remote reason i should have "tracker-miner-fs-3" or wireplumber, pipewire, running as processes? "Isolated web co" all sound kinda sketchy to me and cant figure out if theyre dependencies
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: tracker miner fs is the file system indexer
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: pipewire is a new audio subsystem that nobody asked for that's supposed to replace PulseAudio I think
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: wireplumber is part of pipewire
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Crowley is not still here.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley peers intently at Selitos.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Selitos had a question about SnD?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Is that your question, or do you have a question to ask that you should just ask?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Selitos was curious when triggers adding a cp/quest/global mob to the database?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Consider will add them to a 'seen' database. CP/GQ kills will add them to the kill database.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Maybe quest too. It's been a while since I visited that code.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: so pretty much killing the mob will work i don
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: so pretty much killing the mob will work i don't have to arrive at the room by the go cmd or anything
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I plan on tidying up that code quite a bit, to be honest.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: so anytime you consider it adds stuff to the seen database?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: even if your not on cp?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I believe that is the change that Naricain made long ago.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: how would i setup a trigger to add text behind a portal name in the room description?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: so for example the 6 deathtrap dungeonm portals could i make a trigger to put [warrior] etc behind each one so i don't have to remember which is which?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: no need to remember
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: enter warrior works
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: they already have those keywords, i believe
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: hrm not sure i knew that
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Reyn nods at Gaballon.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: They already have those keywords.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: cool
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yea i was really happy to learn that
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: tho there are other portals i wouldn't mind putting a not behind
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: tho there are other portals i wouldn't mind putting a note behind
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: As far as I know in Mushclient you can't directly modify output lines.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: its possible to make a trigger
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: But what you can do Selitos is trigger off the line, omit it, and then redisplay with whatever you want
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: itd be cumbersome to make
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah i was just thinking that
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: what Orphean said
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gaballon nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: might be a nice geature to be able to ad text to a mud output line, but notes i think always start a new line
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: In mudlet you can just modify the line directly. But not really a thing on aard
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I've done that multiple times.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: trigger omit from output-> then modify and output line the way you want
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: u can try using ColourTell. that doesnt end the line
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: One example: https://i.vgy.me/o1WMdj.png
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Another example: https://i.vgy.me/AYYF8W.png
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/118027636/214982660-f88b4e44-4307-4a11-bfff-149b221e4467.png
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: nice ideas
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i may have to add that one that ads up stat mods
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The trains one, first column is total in stat mods. Second column is how many away from max I am on a stat. Last column is how many trains it'll take to reach max in that stat.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: nice
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, this is one of my favorite plugins: https://i.vgy.me/kkF97v.png ;)
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: cute, but i already have my screened filled up don
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: cute, but i already have my screened filled up don't have room for a calendar plugin  :P
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: This is my screen real estate: https://i.vgy.me/HiwSj0.jpg
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: no way
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: That clock plugin is fun
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Orphean.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I have so much space I can put so much more on here and STILL have room.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Nice moons plugin you have too
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Are those public Crowley?
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's from Khadaji. I like it.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The clock has always been public, on my github.
T3/r7/2023-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: does mush need to be closed to update to latest version using the installer
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: always
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Windows doesn't allow replacing binaries that are open at the time
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: hopefully the installer lets me select onedrive
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it should let you select whatever the folder open dialog can see
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yea i remember last time it wouldnt let me select a network drive
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I know I asked this before but can't remember the solution. My CP/GQ GUI window is stuck too high and I can't drag it down. What is the command to reset it? Something like xset gui reset but that didn't work
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I can't speak for other plugins as mine does not (should not) do that, but I think it was xset reset gui.
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauric Tech: is there a way to fix the text line alignment in MUSHclient? 
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: when you say "fix the alignment", can you describe the problem a bit more?
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Mom's Ruckus Tech: 'make it good'?
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish THWAPS Your Mom's Ruckus for being a moron.
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Your Mom's Ruckus giggles.
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: is there a bugtrack/ticket system for bugs or feature requests? :P how many tps does each cost?
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Rauric: what does it look like now, and how would you like it to look instead?
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Kerith: my github repository
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauric Tech: when I type "score" for example, the attribute totals are not alighed with eachother as they do in mudlet.
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That is a font issue.
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Rauric: that sounds like a font selection problem. You need to make sure that you have a monospaced font loaded for your output
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: change your font settings
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: mine align just fine
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What font are you using?
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauric Tech: calibri
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: i use cousine - 11pt... and it works great
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, Calibri isn't monospaced. Monospaced fonts, each character has the same defined width.
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Yeah, for things to align properly, every character must have the same width
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you use wine - roboto mono looks ok
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauric Tech: oh ok, I just need to fine one that works then
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: LiamSmythe flails his head up and down... you can see the blonde roots.
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I use Hack Nerd Font
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: lucida sans typewriter
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauric Tech: thank you all! Lucida Sans Typewriter worked
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: Is there a command to tell you the total number of rooms mapped in a zone?
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: for yourself? explore for the zone, area unexplored (or area explored if you've found them all)
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: mapper areas <area id>
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: thanks :D
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: mapper areas hedge
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: for example
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: nice, appreciated!
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it actually does a string search on the area name, not the area id, so mapper area hedgehog works too
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: what are the little bars at the bottom of the apps on the window taskbar
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: one is red, some are gray
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: you mean health, mana, moves, exp to next level and alignment?
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: he's talking about the Windows OS taskbar
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Busta Rhymes slaps himself on the head and yells, "DOH!"
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: silly Micro-crash users
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I've never actually noticed those bars before
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: I don't have any red, but blue seems to be active window
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: macrohard
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: sorry i got distracted, Sath is right and deciphered my dumbassery
T3/r7/2023-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sweet, I now have ChatGPT Plus. :D
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: crowley, you're a fan of the proton platform of stuff yeah? protonmail etc
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: they had an ama on reddit today if you're into those things
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: (you and any others interested in vpn/secure mail/etc)
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: proton is ok, but in case they need to give your data/logs to govt they will do that (just like any other provider)
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it's not an area i'm heavily invested in, just thought i remembered them being brought up on here before
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ooh, I missed an AMA from Proton? Sad! Work is the devil today!
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: basically when someone claims "no logs" technically they are not lying, but they do not tell you they can turn on logs at any time they are asked to
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Proton has a transparency clause. They keep record of legal orders, orders contested, and orders complied with: https://proton.me/legal/transparency
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But only to Swiss Authorities.
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If Swiss law is broken, Proton may be asked to provide the logs. If US Law is broken, they can care less.
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Though if the Swiss are assisting foreign entities...
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: what's the trade-off on bouncing through a foreign server ("plus one to their score for paranoia") versus using a US localized server?
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Maybe some reduced speed overall.
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: Why now when i try to click a link posted on a public channel it wont open in my firefox or any browser, a window just pops up saying "unable to open the hyperlink"
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: got any anti-virus software active in the background?
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: i just use commodo
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: trudeau broke it.. i blame c-11
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: but ive always used it. and clicking links used to work. i thought it was because i didnt update the mush but i did yesterday and it still is happening
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: and sorry its Comodo. not commodo
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: if you just copy and paste the URL from mud to the browser, does it work?
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: no im also unable to copy and paste anything from aard into another source including notepad
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: strange.
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: and it appears vice versa. just tried to copy/paste duckduckgo.com and it didnt show
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: have you done a RESTART.. not to be confused with shutdown (because windows hibernates instead)
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: you mean restart my comp?
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: last week i believe
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: so have just been suspending?
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: and / or hibernating?
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: what do you mean by suspending?
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: well you close your laptop lid for instance.
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: yeah hibernating till i move the mouse or hit the keyboard
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: I would try restarting your computer then.
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: no i dont close my laptop lid. i just let it snooze by itself
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: 10 mins or so
T3/r7/2023-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: could you try that suggestion? re-start your PC and see what happens? maybe there's an update that required restarting the unit
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: yeah ill give restarting a shot now
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: see you on the other side.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: takes around 10-15mins to complete
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: Damn, i get ansi for the  30 seconds mine takes to reboot. 10 mins... ouch.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: could someone post a link please
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: http://youtube.com
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: https://google.com
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: Didnt fix clicking it Still the same window popping up
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: bummer.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: can you check on currently running process?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: task manager -- processes
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: find anything suspicious in there?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: copy and pasting still isnt working. rightclick copy/paste and ctrl c/v
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: nothing seems overly unusual igfxCUIService Module igfxEM Module igfxext Module and 3 Sink to recieve asynchronous for WMI Client application
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: if you type the link in notepad and do a copy/paste from there -- does it work?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: I mean c/v notepad to browser
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: yeah did google.com from notepad to firefox no problem
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: if this worked, then there's something in your system that is preventing mud to put anything in the clipboard
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: could it be comodo antivirus. ?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: try disabling it for a bit?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: no i exited it and same window
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: this is a tough one...
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: maybe try this.. sorry you have to type or google it.. https://www.makeuseof.com/windows-11-fix-clipboard-history/
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: even when i tryied to upgrade mush yesterday it showed an error when i tried to point it to my mushclient folder. not entirely sure how i managed to upgrade it
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: oh, did you give the folder admin access?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: with mush closed?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: yes with mush closed
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: option 8.. clear clipboard data?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: let me try the lingk garence sent
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: shooting in the dark here.. hope you get lucky.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: well the first thing in that url garence sent 
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: i have my clipboard history off initially
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: should i turn it on?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: dunno... coudln't hurt.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: as for giving the folder admin access im pretty sure it already has it
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: nope clicking the link u just sent still pops up the window
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: you could also try this expirement... download the latest mushclient zip and extract to a different temp folder
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: login from that freshly installed mush and see if it copy pasting works
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: don't worry about migrating existing db data and whatnot -- we just wanna see if anything works
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: nod aoric
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: does it matter what one i download? the non visual or full visual. cause yesterday i downloaded the full visual one
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: doesn't matter, try the full visual again
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: send a link
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: http://www.youtube.com
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: its not doing anything with the new mushclient
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: yeah sorry, it should be SSL
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: and i cant c/p to or from notepad. or from url to aard
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: but somehow it doesn't want to paste https for me
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: ok now when i clicked it after scrolling up to it the window popped open saying unable to open the hyperling in the new mush
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: sec gonna log back into the normal mushclient
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: back
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: https://google.com
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: nope same window with my normal mush
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: i did notice this at the beginning when logging in 
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: bup and bup go
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: bup go gave me this msg
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: MUSHclient may have encountered an error trying to open the selected URL. It has been copied to the clipboard.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: so, clipboard is working normally...
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: so the client is the one with the problem then
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: i can c/p anything from aard in mush. to mush, just not outside
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: and clicking any links pops that window up
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: let's wait to get the other tech heavyweights to chime in
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: all I can think of right now is there's something preventing mud to open hyperlinks to your browser
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: mushclient*
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: which is weird. because before my cpl month break, i was able to click the links, c/p everything just fine
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: appreciate everyone trying to help 
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aoric nods at A Canadian Wonder.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: sorry we couldn't resolve your issues right away, but I'm pretty sure there'd be someone who could
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: why i {/roomchars} popping up now in rooms around the mobs in the room 
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: tags roomnames off
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: tags roomchars off
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: dont know how that popped up
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: type tags -- see what else is on
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: wtf some of my maps are missing too now ???
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: can mush trigger from note? Im trying to the gag the spirit shield message
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: it stills shows up even i have set it to omit from output
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: in theory it could, if you modify the regex to include the pipe char which is the first char to show up in notes
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: oh dear, i suck at it. i'll try to read up more. thanks!
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: anyone able to trigger off the spirit shield message? i am trying to gag it but it's not working.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: enabled="y"  match="Your spirit shield *"  omit_from_output="y"  sequence="100"
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Click convert to regex Des.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: tried that. didnt work too
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Did your pattern look like: ^Your spirit shield .*$
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: ?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: this is the actual line : Your spirit shield reflects the rain of justice back at rippling distortions!
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: The regex i just did matches that
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: l
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: it works if i test it using the mush trigger tester but it's not working when that line comes from the mud
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: That's uh odd
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: And annoying
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aoric is agreeing with that Orphean person again...
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: I tried it and it works too
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: match="^Your spirit shield .*$"   omit_from_output="y"   regexp="y"
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: That looks right.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: and this just showed up : Your spirit shield reflects the insect swarm back at a breaded halfling!
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Yeah I believe you Des, just don't understand how that can be so.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: make sure it's also "enabled"
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: i think its not a regular line
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: yeah enabled
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tain Tech: Having trouble with S&D for a few zones (currently sandcastle and previously ascent). xcp returns with 'no path within 300 rooms' even for the start of the area, runto gets me there in a few steps, and on arrival xcp acknowledges that I'm there and works like normal. Any ideas where it's getting confused?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: have you tried "xset index areas"?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tain Tech: I have now, no change
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: you might need to xset mark
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yeah, go to start of area and do xet mark
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: so it knows you are in the right room where you want to start the area
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: xset mark
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tain Tech: That's it, thanks a bunch
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: Does mapper "know" about tiers for portal level purposes?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: ya
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It does
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: Cool, so I should put the actual level and it'll figure it out from there?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It will automagically calculate what you can use based on your tier. s o don't adjust for that when adding them.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yassss
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: Excellent. Thank you!
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can find confirmation of the answer under 'mapper help portals', particularly where it talks about the mapper portallevel command.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ULTRATURBO Fuel Tech: is there a nice visual plugin for mud ticks?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoloran Soloran Tech: I use Crowley's Aardwolf_Clock
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoloran Soloran Tech: I use Crowley's Aardwolf_Clock
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoloran Soloran Tech: oops
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ULTRATURBO Fuel Tech: thx
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: is the less than sign a special character in lua? do I need to prefix it to get it to recognize the character as part of a string?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: as in "if a == "<" then" where a is a one-character string
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: nm, don't need the answer anymore
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: anyone good with gmcp to check piece of my code?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: my q is: subclass = gmcp('char.base.subclass'), and larer use if subclass == "navigator" then <blah> makes sense?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: within the confines of your data types matching up, it should work yes
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It does, yes.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: can chat window differentiate between user says and mob says?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mobsay is its own channel
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the chat window uses GMCP, not triggers
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: what's the quickest way to port all of my musclient stuff from one computer to the next.  just a usb drive and copy the entire folder?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: copy the whole folder, BUT...
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tasty Tipro thanks 1337 H4x0r Fiendish heartily.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: just start from scratch if you're hard core Dartan :D
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: there are places, and it's hard to predict where all of those places are, that mushclient will use absolute paths to files instead of relative paths. so like little things like the drive letter changing can sometimes cause things to break. I have tried to make the mushclient package automatically set all paths to relative ones, but that obviously can only work inside the mushclient folder
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: porting from a win10 pro to a win11 home isn't the best experience
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: so install it then copy over the folder?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: no need to install if you're just going to copy over
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: obvious solution is obvious - set your thumb drive to a drive letter that noone else would use.  instant portability.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: i was just thinking install + copy would fix any reference errors
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: Windows... still using lettered Drives..*sigh*
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the installer doesn't do anything important at the system level. mushclient is self-contained.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: of course, lots of other computers dont allow you to reassign drive letters. hmm...
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ah, of course.  virtual machine on the thumb drive.  mush installed on the vm.  can include many vm systems for a single vhd.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: I'm sorry if this is in the help and I'm overlooking it, but can you get mapper to give you a room name if you have the vnum?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mapper showroom, mapper thisroom?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: Showroom did the trick, thanks much!
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: Hi Fiendish, Do you know how can i omit the spirit shield message?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: any trigger can omit the message from output
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if you can trigger on it, you can omit it
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: i tried many ways. its not working though
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what's the message?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: a minute. let me get a fresh one. it works if i test it with the mush trigger test but it wouldnt work when i get it from the mud.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if you make a new trigger and just set the pattern to "You feel a weave of awesome spirits surround your body." without the quotation marks, then check the box on the right called Omit From Output
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: Your spirit shield reflects the magic back at an abnormality!
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that message 
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: sure, do that message instead then
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: i tried : Your spirit shield *! and omit from output. it wouldnt work
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: why the *?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh, because of the mob name?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: yes the mob name
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: first step is always to make sure that the trigger is actually matching the line you need it to match
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: even the tiniest difference will make it not work
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: im sorry i dont understand..
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I think your pattern should work if you set it as you said
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: perhaps you already have an existing trigger of the same pattern?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that's possible, usually only one trigger will fire for a given message unless the trigger specifically sets the Keep Evaluating flag
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: hmnn.. i just copied and paste all triggers onto notepad and didnt find duplicates..weird
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Call me Boyboy Tech: question .. do you guys mess around with areaDB.xml or edit sqlite database to ensure that "lab" maps to "chaprenula laboratory" instead of "Labyrinth" ?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: there shouldn't be a need to do any of that
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Call me Boyboy Tech: yours is mapped correctly? On my Mushclient which I downloaded from the aardwolf website, whenever my mob is in Chaprenula .. xcp will bring me to Labyrinth.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: don't use snd but I assume you can set custom aliases
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: I mean otherwise how do you expect it to know where to send you when you send lab?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: finger fiendish for the updated version of mushclient
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: not sure what version of mushclient is saved in aardmud webpage
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Call me Boyboy Tech: if my 3rd cp is to "lab", xcp 3 will bring me to "labyrinth". Sulk .. I will check out fiendish's. Thanks.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: xcp command is snd command, so don't think upgrading much will make a diff
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: upgrading mush*
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: agreed, but as far as I know SnD still relies on mapper functionalities of mushclient
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Do xset index areas.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Call me Boyboy Tech: yeh .. I was looking at a few scripts and I think Aoric is right. SnD still relies on the mapper functionalities of mushclient. Otherwise you won't be able to nevigate to new areas introduced after SnD updates.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: have you tried, from aylor recall, rt lab, and xset mark?
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Pretty sure SnD has its own settings. Caravan, Asherodan and Bloodlust caused major issues that you could solve by manually editing SnD's xml file for a while.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Again, try xset index areas and see if it fixes it. Also snd force update.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Call me Boyboy Tech: thanks all. Looks like I have to look at SnD again.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Call me Boyboy Tech: yuna .. pardon me .. is the exact command "xset index areas" ?? It does nothing for me.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: that's for crowley's snd I believe
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Call me Boyboy Tech: xset mark do, but xset index area nothing
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: type xhelp -- shows all snd commands available
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: if use pwar's, not sure
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: If xset index areas does nothing for you, you may not be using Crowley's SnD.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: use Crowley's imo
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Call me Boyboy Tech: I can't do xhelp too. Looks like I've been using the wrong SnD then.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: if you did xset mark, try doing xcp3 again, see if still broken
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: AFAIK, Pwar's SnD is severely out of date, nobody has been maintaining it for years and it's a bug-riddled mess because, again, nobody's been maintaining it. Finger crowley and use his.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: it isn't the "wrong" one, just an older one that hasn't been updated in years.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: xset mark will work in both I think, but xhelp, index, etc, is only crowley's
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: it works fine, but most folks here now use crowley's since it's more actively supported
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Call me Boyboy Tech: I will check out Crowley's .. thanks much
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I can only assume that Chaprenula's Laboratory is a renamed area and that it used to be called something else back when pwar's SnD was still being maintained or something.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: Pwars isn't not bug-ridden. I use it fine
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Call me Boyboy Tech: well well .. what do you know .. xrt lab using Crowleys leads me to Chapre. Thanks all !!
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Call me Boyboy!!!  Aoric cheers him on.
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: labo < laby alphabetically so priority i guess
T3/r7/2023-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Call me Boyboy Tech: yea .. that could be it as well.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: anyone has a bypass plugin to share? i've heard there's a zaf bypass plugin, do you guys know where can i get it?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: i can do triggers if i cant get a plugin for on level X i guess but checking for plugins first before the brute force method
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: ... i need to put it on github ... one day
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: https://pastebin.com/6cR4M1m5
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haike Tech: o.o thanks imma give it a go
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: Many have asked for that zafs_bypass_manager and as I have no other recollection other than that I picked it up from boards here. https://pastebin.com/KN3De585   .. Remember, this is not mine but it's what I use
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: zaf removed it soon after posting it 
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: well, now there it is again then
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: and you can just copy/paste my list from the note into zb edit and start building your own preferred list from there.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: I have a script that grabs information, stores it into a variable and executes an alias. But the coloring of the syntax has reverted to the standard white text. How do I fix the coloring back?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can put the coloring back manually, or you can use the trigger system to script after omit and use TriggerStyleRuns table.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, TriggerStyleRuns is a special table that is created when the trigger line fires and accessible if you do script after omit.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: not sure about triggerstyleruns bit. But in my script I had it colored.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish has some specific color functions you can use to manipulate the information in TriggerStyleRuns, but what it does is it saves the colors from the trigger line so you can output them again with any additional context.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: I don't want to change the orginal output, just color it.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you're making your own colors from it, then you can simply use ColorNote("textcolor", "backgroundcolor", "text") or ColourTell (ColourTell does not send a newline upon end of function) for your coloring.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Is the original output all a single color?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: tech yes
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, if it's all a single color, you might decide to use #sub instead.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What output line are you trying to colorize?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: spells from my pclass in 'spell combat'
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Shame there's not a 'spells combat <pclass>' option. :\
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: there is
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: allspell <pclass>
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yes, but you specifically said 'combat'. allspells does not take 'combat', and 'spells combat' does not take pclass.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: just jumbled with the skills
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, wait!
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: allspells DOES take combat.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: you can 'allspell combat' but it lists eveything you have currently.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can do 'allspells combat enchanter' ;)
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: way to narrowed :P
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley just learned something new today.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: ok, that aside, how do I recolor my string
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can just do 'mage', too. ;)
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What exactly is the output you are trying to produce?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: my script snags the spell number and stores into a variable for later use. then I have a command that edits a second variable for more imediate use.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: I color the line as well to note my primary spells from the others.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Is it your own personal message you send out for coloring? For example, are you doing, "Now editing the variable to xyz"?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or are you talking about coloring the line from allspells output?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm trying to fully grasp what you are attempting to do.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: no, but my second command is an alias that has an output.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What does your second command send?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, and that isn't providing the custom color 7 to the line?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: line 3
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: ?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You said it's not colorizing the line.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You have custom color output of 7.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Custom color 7 is red text on black background.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Is it not coming out as that color?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: oh.. wow, I'm blind. I've been looking in the wrong spot.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: anyone have an egg-mask I can keep?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sometimes an extra set of eyes does wonders.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: I've glasses... that don't help much it seems.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: 6-eyes are better than 4?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thy Friend Yerald chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Make that 7 with the gift I sent you. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thy Friend Yerald falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Cool. Selitos might be happy to learn newest package for AardMUSH now saves up/down settings from mapper.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: cool
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: what is the least memory intensive/leaking linux browser? opening new tabs is my second favorite hobby ... :-/
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: windows 3.11 no linux back then
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: web browser, or file browser, or something else?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: lynx... 
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: but I think you want a gui yes?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: lynx by far for web browsing
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: curl could probably be even more efficient than lynx if you don't need to render html :P
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: i probably should switch to Vivaldi and learn to practice tab abstinence :-/ the comparison article i read said "with 10 tabs" lol
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: careful, you'll need to spring for warm weather, and fall back into the winter.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: pun... intented.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Might consider firefox. Amusingly, so many browsers are using Chromium, but Firefox is still Firefox and for good reason.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruckus Tech: because nobody knows what the fox says?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ring ting ting ... ? :p
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a red fox cub runs away, Ruckus is close behind.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: their privacy filters hasn't changed left and right.. .and Chrome.... *shrug*
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ULTRATURBO Fuel Tech: the free software that we love so much. do macs have them as much as win?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ULTRATURBO Fuel Tech: uh?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: do mac's have mushclient or is it variation through windows?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: you can get an exentsion/plugins that free up memory from tabs after xx mintues. 
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just asking
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ULTRATURBO Fuel Tech: i have never owned a mac. being on win means pretty much free everything
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ULTRATURBO Fuel Tech: without pirating
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ULTRATURBO Fuel Tech: is it the same with mac?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: probably midori mushambo.... as it's built with embeded systems in mind.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: is there a note formatter on the aard website? Thought there was but not finding it
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: unsure. crowley has a note formatting plugin in his github
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i've heard of a webbased one but i haven't located it to use
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: yeah just need something to trim the characters really
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i like the plugin
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: i'll check crowley's thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: https://www.aardwolf.com/note.php ?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: thank you so much reyn
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, the aardwolf.com/note.php was the reason I wrote the in-game note formatter.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Honestly, I still don't understand why Lasher could not bring the same code from the builder's formatter over to notes. The code already exists, so...
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i'd just be guessing, but it seemed like from *something* i read a while back that there was an ongoing plan to revamp notes anyway, and if that's the case then why do double work maybe?
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Maybe.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i don't recall where but it read like there was going to be some link between notes and web forums, at some point
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I believe that's been a plan, along with IRC style chats since before I've been here, and I've been here a while.
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yeah things like that often have a "someday" delivery date
T3/r7/2023-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: not that i've EVER had projects like that ...
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: Is there a easy way to pull over my mapper portal list into a spreadsheet? 
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: copy paste with | as the delimiter
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: just tried it, kinda nice!
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zagyg Tech: Anyone proficient with excel at keys to answer a question?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: anybody have/know of a plugin or alias for abbreviating train commands? "train ilc", rather than "train int;train luck;train con" or something thereabouts
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: is there some sort auto-quaffer (auto-reciter)?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: what i want to get
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: use scrolls in similar manner like pots, with possibility to heal/mana max
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: use scrolls in similar manner as dinv using pots*
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You do know that DINV can recite scrolls, too, right?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Turns out there's a * and ** room marking in the mapper database. You can literally do 'mapper showroom *' and 'mapper showroom **'. 'mapper thisroom', in **, shows all your portals.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: mapper showroom *
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: mis
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belden Tech: anyone ever have a S&D error "Alias function "map_where" not found or had a previous error."
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Which SnD version are you using?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belden Tech: I think its 1.4
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Definitely not my version, so I'm not sure what you can do regarding that.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belden Tech: I was looking for a plugin command to display version
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Where did you get your version from?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: As in, whose site? You can also open up the plugin itself to see the author.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belden Tech: well, its been a min, but I believe the git hub
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: ain't it up to like 5.99 or sumpin?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: i believe I had that error when using the old S&D. I fixed it buy logging out and logging back in.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belden Tech: this is Winkle's S&D
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Liam: There are multiple versions of SnD. There's Starling's, Winkle's, Pwar's, and mine, at the very least.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: point crowley
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: LiamSmythe points excitedly at (Aleister) Crowley!
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belden Tech: yes, I think I heard good things about yours Crowley on another forum.  I think I might switch over
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you want to save yourself the trouble, get some new features, and actually have a plugin that is supported, grab the one from my site.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belden Tech: do you have a link?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I even have my own help file! 'help snd' for some information.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Link is in my finger - goes to my repository.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: Now we just need the rest!
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belden Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (1672) Kanaye smirks.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: i haven't has one issue with the one from crowley... i just had to change a couple of things to make it work on linux instead of Micro-Crash
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belden Tech: I only need the XML file right?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: LiamSmythe flails his head up and down... you can see the blonde roots.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: Crowley -- you should make a plugin that alerts you to when a GQ is available in your range...
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: its not hard to make a trigger for that yourself
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: no plugin needed
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: but you level increases... and you hgave tyo see how many you have won already... how would you trigger that5?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: Global Quest: See 'Help Global Quests', or, type 'Gquest Join' to take part.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: when you see that I know I can take the GQ
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: no duh... but if i want to be notified when one is available in my range+#of already won.... 
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm confused by what you are looking for. I never really GQ, so I'm not familiar with what you are looking for.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: just some sort of notification that if a GQ is called... for like my level range right now... it would need to be a GQ that is between say 160 - 180 with 200 or less wins
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yup you can ddo exactly that with what Shinwoo already said
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: doesnt the little circle in the snd window turn purple when there is a gq running you can join?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: but i don't nessesarily want to join every one, i just want to be notified so i can see if i want to join
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: the SnD circle is different color IF you are already jopined
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, you are not looking for just all the GQs you can join (which you are alerted only to those in your level range), but rather just the ones you can join with the restriction of less than 200 wins?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Regardless, you will always be notified of GQs you can join, and never notified of ones out of your level range.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: it would be restricted depending on how many you have won already
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I think there's some vague disconnect on communication. Please provide a few scenarios where you would want to be notified, and not be notified.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: if you have under 10, then notify in your level range with the restriction of only 10 or fewer wins, 200 or fewer wins or all players
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: you your not notified for the 0-10 wins gqs if you already have more then 10 wins, no problem, you are only notified for one you can join. My mush just plays a sound so i know opne has been called
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: and see if Myth is in the GQ because you will never win against him....
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: LiamSmythe ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But... isn't that what the system already does? It will literally only notify you of GQs you can win. So, if you're over 10 wins, it shouldn't notify you of 'under 10 wins'.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Er, can join, not win.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Selitos nods at (Aleister) Crowley.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: the only gap in the current notification system is that it doesnt tell you if you level into a range of an active GQ - i think?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Reyn.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: no... the system tells you of all gq's that are called i think
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No, it literally only shows the ones you can join.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: no there is specific text for gqs you can join as we have already said
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: i still get told of ones outside of my level range and ones outside of my wins range
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: you get told of their results
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: not that you can join them
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: you see if they are won, not when announced or started
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: From 'help gquest' - Global quests are announced to all players within the gquest's level range that have the 'global' channel turned on.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, it's the results you are seeing, which is displayable to everyone, regardless of level.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: so i just need to create a trig to make it appear for me because i miss some because of lack of colours
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: like i said earlier the sopund pack is nice for notfications liek that
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, if you want it to pop a bit more, you can make a trigger for that, for sure.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: I have mine with sound which helps me a lot :)
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Selitos nods at Shinwoo.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i also have it display the gq for me
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can trigger off: Global Quest: Global quest # * has been declared for levels * to *.  -- and have that even pop up a message box for you.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That message will only show to you when you are able to join the global quest. You can also gag lines of: Global Quest: The global quest... --- but you'll gag information if someone wins your gq or extended time has ended.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spellup Roninleader Tech: So, when SnD does a quick where and locates your mob in a room but there are say, 10 matching room names, is there a way to get it to default to a certain room first so you dont get the "There was 1 match which I could not find a path to within 300 rooms:" error message?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: because they are maze rooms?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spellup Roninleader Tech: Oh interesting. I added a note to the room and it prioritized it, bypassing the default of going by room number!
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spellup Roninleader Tech: yes, exactly
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: update to beta branch and there's a new feature to help
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spellup Roninleader Tech: actually, it wasnt even defaulting to lowest or highest room number. hmm.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: u can flag rooms as the start of a maze so they are always the first result
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spellup Roninleader Tech: whats the help file for that?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: xhelp maze
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: if that doesnt work u need to update to beta version
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spellup Roninleader Tech: Yeah I don't have that. I'll need to update
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i think the command is snd force update beta
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: but user beware it's a beta :)
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spellup Roninleader Tech: oh that was easy
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Gaballon came up with that idea. :P
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spellup Roninleader Tech: and thats why he can do more cps and gq than you or I
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Ooh i like new maze option
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: been gone a long time, is there a link floating around for this snd beta stuff?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: where do you get snd beta
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: was not my idea actually. it was in an old version of snd i found, i think from winkle. i just ported it into crowley's snd and made it work
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Varrion laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: snd force update beta
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: That'll do it Dartan
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: oh woah cp mobs have something called (Express) now
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: yeah it'll go right to them w/o needing the go 1 at the start of the area
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: woah how long has this been in beta
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: a while
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: is there any alternatives to bast spellup? i feel like there is too many errors trying to auto add spells to it
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: hadar has one that i like
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I use hadars too
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: thank you both, ill check it out
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: pretty sure i suggested it to you orph ;)
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: only if you are living in sweden and enjoy kitting was it y ou
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Smoochable Saraid stares at the sky.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Pfft the Sweedish knitting yeti is a myth
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i mean i've been known to spin a yarn or two
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: what alias output do i use in Mush so the mapper is triggered?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What do you mean?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: does hadar spellup auto add all available spellups learned? or am i missing something. me no smart.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: when I put mapper goto # in an alias it doesn't work
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i beleive you want execute Sommeil
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I think it auto adds, but not sure.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: just use the system spellup command
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sommeil: Set the alias to 'Execute'.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: i didn't need to 'teach' hsp anything.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: if you do spellup learned you are using the mud command not hadars spellup
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: that worked, thank you
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: hadars works really well 
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yes Hadars spellup works really well and has a nice help file
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: is there a wait in lua that will work inside a trigger "send"?
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Depends on what your application is. There is wait, but you might want DoAfter instead.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: yeah, I went with DoAfter
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: ended up working more cleanly with the other bits
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There's also DoAfterSpecial.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: what's DoAfter? I've always used special cuz I wanted to feel special
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: DoAfter sends the command directly to the MUD. DoAfterSpecial allows you to send script commands.
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: ahh ok, yeah I'm almost always needing to send to Script or Execute so that's probably why
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: anyone got an alias where it tries to hunt something once and goes in that direction just once.  similar to ah but just once
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Girthy Redwood Tech: just make a trigger on using hunt? move and dont hunt again
T3/r7/2023-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: for hunt once https://pastebin.com/TM9H5uN9
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: anyone else having issues with the website or just me? aardwolf.org/lua.html gives me not found
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: .com Mush
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: https://www.aardwolf.com/lua.html
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: woops, .org works as a site though 
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Yeah the .org one is like an incomplete copy or something. They're not running agianst the same directory for whatever reason
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: an anyone programmed a custom exit for annwn?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: I'm trying to include the wait command in the custom exit, but it isn't working
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ennui Tech: which exit?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: trying to program the exit to get to the ship docking area
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: How are you trying to do the cexit, Fachtna?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, not online anymore.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: whats the snd command for marking begining of maze? can't find it on history
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}7 8 Nueve Tech: xset something right?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: xset mark?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: xset mark?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: i thought mark was for area start?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Same, is there a special command for mazes?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's xset maze
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But only if you have the most recent beta.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: hmmf guess i dont have beta, and update doesnt pull it, redownload?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: snd force update beta.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: We are on Beta 5.3 right now.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, 5.99 Beta 5.3.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: how does gmcp distinct between tell or page?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: the SnD sends me to relm of the firbird instead of Lidnesh... is there a way to correct this?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: SnD sends you nowhere. Mapper does that. What is the target room you are trying to reach? Or what are you entering that sends you to firebird instead of Lidnesh?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: instead of lidnesh and also sennarre...
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: when i do the goto next on a cp, if the area is Lidnesh or sennarre it sends me to firbird
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Do me a favor: Go to recall and type 'mapper where 27995.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: er, minus the '.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What does it say?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: Path to 27995 is: run e 4n e 
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: Path to 27995 is: run e 4n e ; op n ; n ; run 2n w 17n 8w u ; run n 5e 4n
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That is from global recall?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Now, from global recall, run east, and tell me what happens when you try to run north.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Apparently your map has an errant exit north in that room.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: says i can't go that way
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Delete the exit 'n' in that room, and it should fix the problem.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: how do i do that?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In the GMCP mapper, right-click the room and delete exit n.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Did you get it fixed?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: still does it... now if i type xrt sennerre it still sends me to firebird
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, go back to global recall, and what does 'mapper wher 27995' say?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: Path to 27995 is: run 4n e ; op n ; n ; run 2n w 17n 8w u ; run n 5e 4n
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Apparently, you also have an errant north exit in Firebird.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Type mapper goto 32090.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Rather, 'mapper showroom 32090'
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: is there a way to delete the area in mapper and go back to the area to do an xset mark?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Er, mapper showroom 32898... weird.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can delete an entire area, but you don't need to.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just follow my instructions. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: that shows me firebird room
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yes. Now you can right-click that room and delete the 'n' exit in that room. There is no 'n' exit in that room at all.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Make sure the room name says 'A Road through the Countryside'
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: in the mini-map window it doesn't show that there is an exit to delete
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If, from global recall, that path is correct, then it must have a north exit there. You did 'mapper showroom 32898', right?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: yes... but firebird isn't the problem
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Please trust me when I say that it is.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: 'ampper where' shows a path to Lidnesh that goes through firebird.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: if i type xrt lidnesh or sennarre or farm it doesn't take me to those areas. it takes me to firebird -- everytime
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: From the 'u' exit in your 'mapper where', it sends you north one, and 5 east. 5 east, then tries to go 4n. There is no north exit n and 5e of the area entrance.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Exactly. Because you have an errant exit in Firebird.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It has ZERO to do with xrt. You can type 'mapper goto 27995' and it will still do the same exact thing.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Because 'xrt' literally sends 'mapper goto 27995'.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: ok...
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: you'll have to check your room exits in firebird
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: listen to Crowley, the Crowley is wise.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Prove me wrong, if you feel that I am. Go to global recall, type 'mapper goto 27995'.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Tell me it does not land you in Firebird.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: then how do i make the mapper send me to farm, sennarre or lindesh instead of firebird. i don't want to goto firebird at all
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you can tell me it does not land you in firebird, I will give you 100m gold.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you would listen to what I've been saying...
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: you need to delete the errant exit, which is what he's told you 150924012 times
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dixon yawns.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, did I just see you pass me in firebird? :p
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliera Tech: hmm, mapper goto 27995 puts me in lidnesh
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley slaps Aliera.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faithful Ruhamah falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliera Tech: did i type it wrong?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Now, the room that you and I are in, on your GMCP mapper, you have an errant exit north. 
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: you are correct that is a room in firebird. but wht is sennarre, lidnesh and farm associated with that room and not their own rooms?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Because you have an errant exit north in this very room that you and I are standing in.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: you have a cexit in one of those rooms that mapper thinks is a shortcut to those areas
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: right click, delete any exit named n
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: right click on the map square you're in..
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: the room in the mapper says only exits are e - w -- no north exits
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: hell delete all of firebird
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you type 'mapper thisroom', do you see: Exits: "n"="#####" ?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: and let this be done
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dixon yawns.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Screenshot your mapper for me, Liam. I want to see this.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliera Tech: fwiw, when I did it, it used my wooble nut portal, even though I have a firebird portal (i'm a mapper newbie)
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: id: 32898
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If there is no "n" exit in 'mapper thisroom', then our next step is to check 'mapper cexits firebird'
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Let's take a step back for a minute.  Liam: If you ever see a case where the mapper doesn't take you where you expect, start at recall and "mapper where [room #" to get the path that the mapper thinks is valid.  Then follow that path one room at a time until you hit a path that is wrong (e.g., maybe the mapper wants you to do east but there is not exit east).  You can then remove or fix the broken exit or cexit in that room.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: dont listen to durel, just delete your mapper and start over
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's all the crowley is doing here.  At some point your mapper got a wrong exit.  This can happen if a clan changes it's locations or exits, or for lots of other reasons so it's not an uncommon thing
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: its like turning it off and back on again, but for your mapper
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly at Dixon.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: this channel is better when people give honest answers instead of jokes
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: not everyone can tell the difference
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It turns out that it may very well be a corrupted database.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Everything is checking out from exits and whatnot, but mapper goto sends him to weird places, and not the room number indicated.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: implausible
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: hey fiendish, how come /lua/aardwolf_colors.lua redirects to /worlds/plugins/aardwolf_colors.lua?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Sath: require "aardwolf_colors" is simpler than using DoFile and giving the plugin directory path. It just comes at a price.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: but why is that necessary in the first place? Why not just require it from /lua/?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: because it was in the plugin directory first
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: and because require will not load something again if it has already been loaded
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but dofile will
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: oh, what uses DoFile?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: all my plugins
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I see
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: is there a reason for that?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: because I know the price and want to avoid it
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: it's part of the bofa protocol
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish nods at Antifa Raded.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: bofa deez prices
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: sorry, what's the price?
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that's...complicated
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Turns out, he had a custom exit 5 rooms away from recall that made the mapper think it was quicker. Unfortunately, it led to some errant room anyway.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'd rather just send you to https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Color-Functions#why-dofile-instead-of-the-cleaner-require
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: THANK YOU CROWLEY!!!
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: huh, was hoping for the complicated answer
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it's possible that I don't have one anymore
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: fair enough, I definitely have some code like that
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but originally the way the code was use, colors would end up wrong if the player changed their ansi settings
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: unless the module got reloaded
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I see
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: which couldn't happen if using require, because require won't re-load a module
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I prefer dofile myself, especially in some of my local plugins. If I make a change to the Lua file, I want to make sure it loads.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: possibly now the use of dofile for it is vestigial
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I just run into it now and then because players on older mush get really confused about why there are two copies of the file, I'm glad to know why
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://www.luafaq.org/#T1.19
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, for a future note: If you ever find your mapper is not taking you where you think it should, first thing is to go manually to your target room, grab the room id, return to recall, then 'mapper where <room id>'. Then follow that path directly. You can check the exits in each room with 'mapper thisroom' to see if you have errant cexits. Follow the path until you hit an obstacle, delete the obstacle, and see if that fixes it.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: one of the main jobs of the require function is to avoid loading the same file twice
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure that's what Durel said
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I guess the upshot is I can probably instruct people to just put the main copy of aardwolf_colors.lua into the lua/ directory and my code that relies on it should probably work just fine
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the consequence of not loading the same file twice is that the file might need to initialize some data based on the current state of the universe
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, that's what I /did/ for him. I manually walked what he provided from mapper where, and found that it was trying to go north in a room in Firebird. But it wasn't even that room. It was 5 rooms away from recall with a complex custom exit. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: once again thanks crowley... your knowledge is invaluable
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley beams with pride.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's only knowledge because it frequently comes up. Most of the time, it is that errant exit, or a missing exit from a clan revamp. This, though, is a first for me with such an erroneous cexit.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: does anyone experience issues when toggle diff tabs on comms window? when i toggle, the conversations dont get updated (it is where i left it). i need to scroll down to the bottom
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: type 'checkversion'
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Macbeth: no, but if you can capture a recording of it I can take a look
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: ok fiendish tks. i will try to duplicate and screen record. as in duplicate the fault
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I assume you didn't mean clone yourself
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: tho that _would_ be a neat plugin :p
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Macbeth chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I listen to music with my ears
T3/r7/2023-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mis
T3/r7/2023-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is ecal broken again?
T3/r7/2023-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: had to reload mine but it's workign again
T3/r7/2023-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What's the name it's listed under on the list of plugins?
T3/r7/2023-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: tallimos_epic calendar or smth
T3/r7/2023-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2023-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2023-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yup. Reinstalling it solved the problem.
T3/r7/2023-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: why does my far right column in word keep falling off the far side of the page
T3/r7/2023-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harvester Tech: anyone know where the mapper data is saved to what file name?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: Aardwolf.db i think
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: I think it depends on what name you have given your world
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: If your world is called Aardwolf, it would be Aardwolf.db, if it's SuperMUDalicious, it would be SuperMUSalicious.db
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: If your world is called Aardwolf, it would be Aardwolf.db, if it's SuperMUDalicious, it would be SuperMUDalicious.db
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jegeas Tech: anyone else get a GMCP Decode Error message when logging in?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: not this morning
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jegeas Tech: k. thx. I'll check with friendish when he gets on.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: when i just logged in i got an error that said "Error fetchng change log" anyone know what that might mean
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That /may/ be related to SnD. Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But 'snd changelog' should return the changelog.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the mapper database name can be changed now btw
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: recently
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mapper help configuration
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oops, mapper help config
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj proves his cool is well past its sell-by date by saying 'YO!' to 1337 H4x0r Fiendish.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish waves hello to Tech Bloke Danj.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I hear you're back and hilariously bugged, danj
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: haha
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah I have an item with the bugged flag if that's what you mean
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: we have to have lasher look into it
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: it means there are 2 of the same item id in the game
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: woah
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: usually happens around a crash
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: shoulda kept quiet and sold it
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: and I thought i was special for being one of the only 27 players with a carpet
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: some people collect some dumb stuff :P
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I only collect items that aren't allowed to exist anymore
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: like demonfire wands
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: sounds fascinating.  very few folks would even think to make a flag for 'bugged' gear.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: so bugged items *are* allowed to exist?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: sure, they just can't be used
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dixon Tech: heard it here first
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: (please report your bugged items so lasher can unbug them)
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I did report to kharpern as soon as I realiseed
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj points excitedly at Helpdesk Kharpern!
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I collect illegal items myself, such as level 20 passdoor pots. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: so the reason i couldnt c/p or open links. was due to the fact of my Antivirus Comodo. was using a extra level of security, holding MUSH in a containment folder. and not alowing it to execute to my brower. 
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: for those that were following my problem the last week. 
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ... clipboard?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: no.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: thats what happens when you use "Micro-Crash" or "Cr-Apple" machines
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: wasnt letting mush execute the hyperlink or actions outside of much at all. 
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: execute nothing, fake news
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: <---- makes everyone switch to Linux
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: small and soft will not approve
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'm quite happy running MUSHclient on macOS
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i need more tired linux fanboy "M$" and "windoze" before i will switch thx.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: you know whats funny about that Fiendish??? Mac sits on a linux kernal
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: no it doesn't
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it's BSD, I thought
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: FreeBSD is
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: FreeBSD isn't LInux
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no I mean the Darwin kernel, it's a BSD derivative
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: those are just different distro's of the linux kernal
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah no.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: uh, no
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: BSD is really really really not Linux
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: thought bsd was unix derivative, not linux
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: correct
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the darwin kernel is XNU according to wikipedia
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: watch out, stallman's gonna GET YOU
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I though unix was derivative of bsd ?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: what does "LinUx" mean??? Light-Unix 
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: which I guess is a mix of freebsd and some other stuff, but not linux
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it's named for Linus
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: Linus Torvalds
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it's ok to be wrong LiamSmythe
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the guy who came up with it
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiamSmythe Tech: i have no issues addmittingh when i'm wrong...
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: what text does the mud send when it's time to quest again?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: QUEST: You may now quest again.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: or if there's no specific text, what's the optimal way to detect quest time going down to zero in mushclient?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i trigger on (?:QUEST: You may now quest again.)
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ah right, awesome
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: and it just went off twice so 
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i need to update that regex
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: haha
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: bad ans, no anchors
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: afair there's gmcp packet with quest updates
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Install SnD, it plays a sound when you can quest again. Your status bar also goes red and it says READY
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ooh
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I don't want sounds, I want OS notifications
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i don't like sounds, so i use that trigger and a FlashIcon() call
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What is an OS notification?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: one of those toast things that pops out from the side
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I figured out how to do it with a little utility
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: oooo
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: now I just need to write the trigger for it
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: sending to the notification area?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What, on your phone?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no on my PC
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i never even considered something like that. neat idea
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: windows 10 automatically gathers them in the action centre with timestamps
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: using a system utility or something third party to push there?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I highly doubt MUSH can natively do that. You'd have to do a bunch of workarounds. I know there's a way to make MUSH send stuff to Telegram and have a bot then relay that to your Telegram account. Been thinking of doing that.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: third party utility
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yes, it cannot natively do that
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: could be worth a feature request if gammon is still actively developing
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: and trying to make it do that will be awful because lua can only interface with C code, not .net or anything modern like that
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: there already is one from 2017
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: One what?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: if it hasn't been added in 6 years it's probably not going to be added
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: a feature request
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: in the mush forums
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is Nick even still developing MUSH? I thought it was all Fiendish nowadays for Aardwolf at least.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: anyway, fine, whatever, what's the updated quest regex with the anchors?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient is in maintenance mode
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: (?:$QUEST: You may now quest again.^) is prob as good as it gets
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I do still fix bugs sometimes 
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: nick gave me access to the mushclient github repo
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What does maintenance mode entail?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it means I'll fix bugs if I know how
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: and nick might also fix bugs
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: no more major releases tho eh
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the last release isn't even the latest build
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: shame, but nick's been doing the mushclient thing for a looooong time now. can't blame him too much if he wants to say "good enough"
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: we use the latest build of the exe from github, but the latest release is still 5.06
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: nod
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i approve that decision.  most software pretty quickly reaches a point where the only place left to go is feature bloat.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: If the trigger is: ^You raise a level\! You are now level (\d+)\.$, how do you an if clause based on the radical? if X = Y, then. What do you place as X?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: alright, great, now I better go do a quest and then see if the alert thingy works
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Yuna: X in your case is "%1"
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: regex results are 1-indexed, so you count your matches that don't have ?: before them
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: and that
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So it's still %1 even if the radical isn't a simple *?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: or just %1 since it's a number
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: %0 would give you the entire string that got matched
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yuna: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Okies, thanks.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: alright, quest done, now to see if this works
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hmm I guess I should get some dinner while I wait
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is it more effective processing-wise to do separate if clauses for every variable or do a single giant if clause with a bunch of elseifs?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if you're not doing billions of them it doesn't matter
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: does not matter unless you use really slow cpu
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'm doing, like, 20 in a single trigger.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: fiendish was being somewhat literal about billions (though maybe tens of thousands is more like it)
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it's technically more efficient to use elseif though
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: (assuming that you don't want each statement evaluated independently ofc)
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: since once you find a match, it'll skip the remaining branches
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No, it'd be looking for a single match. It's a trigger set up for when I level to fire different things based on what level I just leveled up to. So it'd only never match a single if clause. Thanks, I'll do a bunch of elseifs, then.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: then yeah. doubt that you will ever feel a difference but if/elseif would be "better" for all but the very last case
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: honestly readability might be a more important distinction for you heh
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: If nothing else it saves me from having to include a few dozen "end"s.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok I'm dumb, how do I make a trigger in mushclient execute lua commands
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: You can just put your lua commands in the trigger actions.  You can also send the trigger to 'script' and give a function name to execute.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: what should "send to" be set to for just putting my lua commands in the trigger actions?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: also, what is wrong with the following:
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: execute I believe
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: os.execute('"D:\\Utilities\\toast\\toast64.exe" --app-id "Aardwolf MUD" --title "Quest time!" --message "It's time to do another quest!" --icon "D:\\Utilities\\toast\\aardwolf.png"')
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: send to:script
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I thin Danj broke my Discord notifier.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I don't understand why this command does not work
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it looks like it tries to send it to the mud
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: instead of trying to execute it
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Did you change it to 'script' like suggested?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: let me try that
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: compile error
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Don't need to escape the \.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:1: ')' expected near 's'
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Should be able to do os.execute('"D:\Uti..\toast64.exe"...)
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh no you know what, I'm a fuckwit, there's an apostrophe in my message
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh!
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: what is the escape character for lua
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, but watch the language. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's what I was going to say, the '.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oops! my bad
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Try %.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok, let me try that
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or \ if that doesn't work. Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, you might consider using: utils.shellexecute() instead of os.execute.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: what parameters are needed for utils.shellexecute()
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: assert(utils.shellexecute("cmd", "/C ping %2 > " .. n .. " &", GetInfo(68), "open", 0)) --> that's my "ping" alias.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: utils.shellexecute (filename, params, defdir, operation, show_command)
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: so this? utils.shellexecute('D:\Utilities\toast\toast64.exe', '--app-id "Aardwolf MUD" --title "Quest time!" --message "Time to do another quest!" --icon "D:\Utilities\toast\aardwolf.png"', GetInfo(68), "open", 0)
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it does not error, but it also does not work either
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Can even do: local cmd = '"D:\Utilities\toast\toast64.exe" --app-id "Aardwolf MUD" --title "Quest time!" --message "' .. "It's time to do another quest!" .. '" --icon "D:\Utilities\toast\aardwolf.png"') os.execute(cmd)
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:1: unexpected symbol near ')'
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You know what, Danj: os.execute( [[ "D:\Utilities\toast\toast64.exe" --app-id "Aardwolf MUD" --title "Quest time!" --message "It's time to do another quest!" --icon "D:\Utilities\toast\aardwolf.png" ]])
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I forgot the [[]] around it will make it a string, so you don't have to worry about the quotes.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And it that errors out, try doubling up the \ again because I may have been wrong with that.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: now, is there a way to do it without it opening a cmd window?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: or is that what utils.shellexecute is for
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I think that's what the utils.shellexecute is for.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It doesn't open up a window for me, at the very least.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: is there a way I can test the lua command on the command line, and be able to get some feedback as to why it is not working
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: \\\Lua commands. Or Ctrl+I to open up the immediate window.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: \\\ works if you have that set as your scripting prefix.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: utils.shellexecute( [[ D:\\Utilities\\toast\\toast64.exe ]], [[ --app-id "Aardwolf MUD" --title "Quest time!" --message "It's time to do another quest!" --icon "D:\\Utilities\\toast\\aardwolf.png" ]], GetInfo(68), "open", 0 )
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: this does not error
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but it also does not work
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the previous version with os.execute worked, but it opens a cmd window
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: there we go!
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: utils.shellexecute( "D:\\Utilities\\toast\\toast64.exe", [[ --app-id "Aardwolf MUD" --title "Quest time!" --message "It's time to do another quest!" --icon "D:\\Utilities\toast\aardwolf.png" ]], GetInfo(68), "open", 0 )
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: now let's check it works in a trigger
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: why does it work in the immediate window but not in a trigger
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: here's a screenshot, can anyone tell me what is wrong? https://imgur.com/a/XLuWGZs
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: does : need to be escaped?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: is it matching?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it is matching
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: what's the error?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: that exact command works in the immediate window
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:1: invalid escape sequence near '"D:'
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: you need to escape the backslashes in the second path probably
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok, with %? or more backslashes
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: looks like more blackslashes
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nope, that did not work
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: what's the error now?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: same error
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: haven't played with that util before danj, but your code doesn't look like the samples on the mushclient site
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it >might< matter, unsure that it does
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I do not think you need to escape the backslashes.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But make life easier... change \\ to / instead.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, D:/Utilities/toast/toast64.exe
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i'm curious if the [[ ]] are needed/wanted/breaking things
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (Sorry I dipped for a minute, staff meeting with the medical director)
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The [[ ]] says "Everything in here is a string, no need to escape quotes and whatnot."
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: this works
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: utils.shellexecute( "D:/Utilities/toast/toast64.exe", '--app-id "Aardwolf MUD" --title "Quest time!" --message "Time to do another quest!" --icon "D:/Utilities/toast/aardwolf.png"', GetInfo(68), "open", 0 )
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: nice
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley beams with pride.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: but you didn't control your vars, now we don't know if it was crowley's suggestion or mine :P
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, he made the change from \\ to /, so there's that.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: and also took out the [[ ]] for ' '
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah I think it was the slashes
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: at least in what was pasted
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Cheesy Anssett.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i guess we'll just have to share credit *grin
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: anyway it's working now, all's well that ends well
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: thank you all for your help
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: He also removed "It's".
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: prob had to, to make the string change work
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yes that
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ugh, I gotta share credit with Anssett... yuck! :p
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: haha
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: anyway, time to actually go on a quest
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: just wait, i'll misread a helpfile again soon and you'll be pointing and cackling
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: such slack mond
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: SEE
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: By the way: print("Testing" .. [[ --app-id "Aardwolf MUD" --message "It's time to do another quest!" ]]) --> prints perfectly fine.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett nudges (Aleister) Crowley.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: well, I'm gonna leave it alone now it is working
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, don't touch what's not broken.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Totally get it.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Anyway, peace! I gotta go pick up kids and stuff.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the toast utility is from https://github.com/go-toast/toast if anybody wants to use it
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (Also, glad to see you back around, Danj).
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I looked at trying to do it natively with lua ffi but it just looked awful, so I'm using this third party utility instead
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I just send things to Discord. I even have a writeup for sending it to Telegram on my github.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I will eventually write up the instructions for Discord, though.
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (Better than what Hadar has, anyway).
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: anyway, on that note it's time for me to head off to bed
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: how do i fix a window behind other window...isnt there a z-order or something?
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: _my_ miniwindows all have z order controls
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but any miniwindow may register itself with my z order handler https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Miniwindow-Z-Order-Monitor
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: and theme support and good scrolling and proper resizing, etc etc etc. please use fiendish's mw's thank you plugin writers and goodnight
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish looks at Orphean and goes "Heh."
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I can at least whine about it :P Not that I expect change
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/tablets/android-tablets/lenovo-tab-series/tab-p11-pro-gen-2/len103l0011 is there a reason why I shouldn't buy this tablet
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: mostly looking to watch stuff on, mostly streaming, potentially from the sd card
T3/r7/2023-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: onn by walmart is cheaper.  much less painful when you have to replace it out of pocket after stumbling on it heel-first in a hungover stagger.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: how do I switch on that hp/mana bar etc on mush again?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoesBish Vinatia Tech: not much tech-like honestly, so all i can say is check your file > plugins(in game) and see if something might be off?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoesBish Vinatia Tech: if that is the case, just highlight and click enable
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: the plugin is on, but i dont see the bars - also not hiding in the background.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoesBish Vinatia Tech: did you try re-install?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: i did
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoesBish Vinatia Tech: re-start client without saving changes? like i said idk tech stuff... just trying to go through basics lol
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: no setting with stock snd to have mob search results display in new minwin, right?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: "stock" snd?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: like . . . I haven't changed from what you released
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I will add mini-win search results in the future. Right now, I'm working on changing the SnD window to be more manageable.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metaphoric Hyperbole Tech: wouldnt quick where do that?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Tipro is talking about when you search for mobs. Currently, it displays it in the main window.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: I'm talking the "ms [mob]" suite of functions
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metaphoric Hyperbole Tech: oh i guess not in mini win
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: yeah that will be really handy crowley. For now I"ll just keep suffering . . . jk! Appreciate what you do very much
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Tipro, you might consider updating to the Beta version, by the way. Not sure what version you have, but we're on v5.99 (Beta 5.3) right now.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: mmmm bizzarely I can't quite determine what version I'm on
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: is it possible to add new columns to a an existing SQL database table?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: without re-creating the entire table
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: oh
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: uhh i cant remember if its mutable or not
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: https://www.sqlitetutorial.net/sqlite-alter-table/
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Side note, do not add anything to the mapper database.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That was done before, and when Fiendish did a change in mapper, it screwed things up.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: well yea. i'd add it to your database table and brick the entire snd plugin :)
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's acceptable.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: lol preface everything with unless you're absolutely sure you know what you're doing :D
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I've added columns to it before, and plan on adding a whole new table in the future anyway.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Evine: Even if you know what you're doing, don't mess with the mapper database by altering the tables.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: but what if you could make it more efficient? :D
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i saw in snd code u copied the entire table then re-created it to add new columns
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: stuff like that makes me nervous
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Years ago, WinkleWinkle used to do 'xrt' based on room creation date, which was a column Fiendish had in the mapper database. Fiendish decided it wasn't necessary to keep, deleted the column and broken Winkle's SnD.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gaballon chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: yeah, just keep a back of everything so if you brick stuff by playing around, at least you'll have that :D
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: anyway seems it is possible, thanks Tinypotato
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: or more realistically, create a backup of everything so you save your own skin when a customer tells you that something you did broke everything, and you can easily show that, no, the bug was indeed there before :D
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: sqlite could not remove columns from tables without copying the table until very recently. it's not unreasonable to use the same approach to add columns too.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: copying the table then deleting the old one just makes me a little nervous
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you either trust sqlite to work or you don't :shrug
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it's not like you need to add columns more than once
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: im sure sqlite is great, i just dont trust my abilities with it
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xicohtencatl Tech: Is there a way to delete an exit from my mapper? Not a cexit--just a normal exit. My mapper seems to think there's a down exit 2s of recall. I've locked the exit at 300, which does fix the issues it causes, but if possible, I'd like to get rid of it completely.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Right click the offending room and delete the exit from there
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: right click on the room in the mapper window
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xicohtencatl Tech: Ooh, awesome. Thanks for the info! Sorry if this was in the mapper help, but I couldn't find it when I looked.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I really should change the exits delete command to just delete all exits
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: with a brain as big as yours, i bet a lot of questions are simple
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: can anyone describe with simple words, what advantage (if any) Wolfram Mathematica's approach provides versus others?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: The big innovation was the workbook but that is no longer limited to just mathematica. Matlab, Octave have largely caught up there.  And Jupyter has extended the concept even further.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: So you kind of got me there Mush. 
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Matlab is largely feature equivalent and, in my experience (sample count: 1 so ymmw), is more used in academic settings
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: matlab is designed for vector math, mathematica is designed for solving equations
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: there has been convergence though over the years
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: imo anyway
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what can cause that my numpad sometims stops working? especially after switching several times between Wine/Linux and VM with Win 10/7
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: basically 4/5/6/7 act now as arrow keys
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: numlock?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Game->Configure->Keypad?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mush restart helps, pressing num lock does not seem to work  
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: numpad + and - work as expected, just those 0-9 + . does not
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: is the enable numpad keys checkbox enabled in Game->Configure->Keypad?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Has anyone used ColoursToStyles with input that is both multiple lines and multiple colors?  I'm seeing some weirdness where changing color mid-line messes up the color for the part of the line just prior to the color change.  I'm wondering if my expectations for that function are just wrong and if I have bad assumptions about the behavior.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metaphoric Hyperbole Tech: @w for color bleed?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metaphoric Hyperbole Tech: or i prolly dont know what your talking about safe to ignore me :)
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: No.  Here, let me give a short example you can run on the command line to show how I expect it *should* work:  \\\require "tprint" tprint(ColoursToStyles("@GThis is green\nThis should still be green\n@RThis should be red", nil, nil, true, true) or {})
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That shows that the styles are coming back with the expected colors for each block.  So far so good.  The next example changes the color in the second line and that causes the stuff prior to it on the second line to switch to off white for some reason.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Here is the example that isn't doing what I expect:  \\\require "tprint" tprint(ColoursToStyles("@GThis is green\nThis should still be green\n@RThis should be red", nil, nil, true, true) or {})
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: need dofile aard_colors.lua or whatever else that doesn't work
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: oh, thanks Athlau.  I think I had that included in my main mush script file.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: i mean your example doesn't run, prolly do affect on the behaviour you're explaining
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: s/do/no/
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Durel: Try doing Simulate(ColoursToANSI(...)) instead.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: maybe saying something incredibly wrong will summon Fiendish:  "You should be writing all your plugins in VBScript, Lua is terrible."
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Oh whoops.  The second example I copied was the same as the first I think.  This was what I meant to copy for the second example:  \\\require "tprint" tprint(ColoursToStyles("@GThis is green\nThis should still be green@R\nThis should be red", nil, nil, true, true) or {})
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: This works as expected: \\\Simulate(ColoursToANSI("This is green\nThis should still be green\nThis should be red.\n"))
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: This works as expected: \\\Simulate(ColoursToANSI("@GThis is green\nThis should still be green@R\nThis should be red.\n"))
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's right.  It's the ColoursToStyles() function that is giving weird behavior
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In general practice, Simulate is going to be the better option overall, I've learned/heard.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: i usually just AnsiNote(ColoursToANSI(...
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: cause don't want other plugins to mess with my output :P
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ok, thanks Crowley.  Here is a better way to see the examples.  This is the one that works because I don't change colors mid-line:   \\\Simulate(tprint(ColoursToStyles("@GThis is green\nThis should still be green\n@RThis should be red", nil, nil, true, true) or {}))
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: And here is the one that fails just by moving the @R character to the end of the 2nd line:  \\\Simulate(tprint(ColoursToStyles("@GThis is green\nThis should still be green@R\nThis should be red", nil, nil, true, true) or {}))
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I guess I'm just not seeing what the problem is, really. The @R being placed before the newline correctly changes the color, at the end of the line. It'd be like color bleed in notes.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: But in the ColoursToStyles function the 2nd example has the first line green (as expected), the 2nd line off-white for some reason instead of green, and the 3rd line is red (as expected).  
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Adding "@R" to the end of a line shouldn't turn all of the line prior to that color change off-white
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Every example you've given has produced the table print, but no actual output.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But when I did this, it performed as expected: \\\local styleRun = ColoursToStyles("This is green\nThis should still be green\nThis should be red") for i,v in pairs(styleRun) do ColourTell (RGBColourToName (v.textcolour), "",  v.text) end
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But when I did this, it performed as expected: \\\local styleRun = ColoursToStyles("@GThis is green\nThis should still be green@R\nThis should be red") for i,v in pairs(styleRun) do ColourTell (RGBColourToName (v.textcolour), "",  v.text) end
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grumbles and growls. You wonder what's wrong...
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Were you able to see the tables output by tprint though?  In the "bad" example, the second line has color of decimal 13421781 which is hex 0xCCCCD5, an off-white
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I did not get that at all.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh wait... I did get 12632256, hmm.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: 12632256 changes to Silver.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's the hex color code 0xC0C0C0, which is yeah, silver :p
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, NOW I see what you are getting at. Somehow I missed that the first time it happened.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: if you move the @R from the end of the 2nd line to the beginning of the 3rd line, you should see the second line switch to green
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Even weirder is the difference between the two - you have an off-white, I have silver.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It might be just a default color in mush.  If we have different versions, your off-white is probably 0xC0C0C0 and mine is 0xCCCCD5 which is very close, just a slightly different shade
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: By the way, where you are you getting the "nil, nil, true, true" parameters from? ColoursToStyles, as far as I know, only takes the 'text' parameter.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Here is the prototype for the function: function ColoursToStyles (input, default_foreground_color, background_color, multiline, dollarC_resets)
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I'm using the default foreground and background colors (set to nil), and turn multi-line support on, and use the default  behavior for channel default colors
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ah, yeah, okay.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Interestingly, if you make the first 'true' to 'false', it displays it on one line for the green, and prints it correctly.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: As in, printing it still gives the line breaks.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, perhaps the issue is with the multiline parameter.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: That's my suspicion.  Ok, thanks for looking at it.  I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing something completely silly :p
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, changing the multiline parameter is the only thing that "corrects" the behavior.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel nods at (Aleister) Crowley.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The ColoursToANSI reports properly, though: [1;32mThis is green\nThis should still be green[1;31m\nThis should be red
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG it's Madrox Tech: anyone who knows how to actually work mushclient can help me on how to import a db file, I just want the maps but there is no clear obvious thing to do anywhere.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: put the db file in the directory that already has one.  while mush isnt running, of course.
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG it's Madrox Tech: how to avoid getting all of someone elses triggers and aliases?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Once Tech: so the chat screen on my client stopped working? how can i make it re appear?
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: triggers and aliases arent in there, but cexits and room notes are
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: Aardwolf.db in the main directory is the mapper database. Aardwolf.mcl (in the world folder) has aliases/triggers/etc
T3/r7/2023-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Once Tech: ok i am real tech not smart where do i find it?
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Alison Tech: Does anyone know how to make mobdeaths show in reverse order so I don't have to scroll up through the whole list to get to the top?
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: hmm.. might be a good idea to display the output of mobdeaths to a miniwindow -- with asc or desc as options
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: is there a way to detect when the combat ended?
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can check status
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: this would tell me my current state, but I want to get info when when I'm no longer in combat (not using timers, to be used for trigger)
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need to detect that mob was killed or fleed
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: or when you died I assume
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: like: Rex_DeathMessage_Victim = rex.new(Rx_DeathMessages) ,    s,e,match = Rex_DeathMessage_Victim:match(line_to_examine),    if match and match.Victim then Note("Death: " .. match.Victim)
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need to collect all possible death messages like "<mob_name> howls as <its/his/her> last spark of life is drained!!" or "<mob_name> is slain by a final deadly slash!!"
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: however - as you get GMCP data all the time, it is just enough to wait till your status gets updated
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for example plugin Aardwolf_Health_Bars displays Enemy line while you're fighting
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or you could just process prompt line
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: does anyone know how to use doAsyncRemoteRequest from async.lua? I have a problem where if I am sending a JSON payload as json.encode(mytable), I am able to get back the responseContent as json.decode(responseContent), but if I am sending a table as the body with headers and the payload in body.source, the responseContent seems to just be '1'
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: even though I am expecting a JSON payload to decode
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: does anyone happen to know why doAsyncRemoteRequest from async.lua isn't giving me a JSON response if I make my request with headers?
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: quiet here today
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: dunno, but do you have Accept: application/json
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: as one of your headers
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: yah, I do :(
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: you could try one of the alternative json types listed here: https://www.dofactory.com/forum/1755/what-is-the-best-mime-type-for-json-content
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: maybe your target server sucks and doesn't have the proper type configured
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: hmmm, I am able to get a response back if I don't send any headers though, and just directly `json.encode(<lua table>)`
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: how curious
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: can you have delayed 'if' statement inside trigger?
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: beside DoAfterSpecial...
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Zensch: Yes
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: require "wait"; DoSomeStuff(); wait.make(function() wait.time(5); if condition then DoConditionalStuff() end; end)
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: The argument to wait.time is the number of seconds to delay, BTW.
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: hmm, I'm not sure how i can encode it
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Whatcha trying to do?
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: I want to cast invis/hide (racial for sprite) after fight
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: i have trigger to check if i get any experienc - and it works
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: but when aoe with 20+ mobs there are 20 tries to cast it during fight
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: i have check for char.status, but when you get exp you are still in the fight
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Ah. IMO the best way to do that would be to make a plugin that tracks char.status.state. whenever it changes (which you can check in OnPluginBroadcast), if it was in combat and now isn't, then send invis/sneak.
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: https://github.com/udequina/aardwolf-plugins/blob/main/loqui/Nok3_Combat_End.xml
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: but it did not worked, I have added simulate ('my msg') after combat...
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is a difference how you define combat end and how plugin defines it
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you treat a series of combats as single combat
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: If you use that, all you should have to do is to make a trigger to match {/combat} and have that trigger send invis/sneak.
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: yeah, it did not worked... not sure why... I have reinstalled it and now it shows end of combat
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Or yeah, whatever that tag is
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Truthless Areia rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: in your case: CombatStart should jsut modify  inCombat = true,   while CombatEnd should just set probablyNotInCombat = true, wait 0.3 seconds and if still not in combat then set inCombat = false
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that wait 0.3 should be done as timer - so you have non-blocking wait
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: anyone know what plugin might have a "cpr" command?
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: i think S&D has it
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: I just disabled that exact plugin and the command still works for me.
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: i think its Hadar's qpstracker plugin
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: ahh... that has to be it. the alias failed.
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: now to figure out the help file for that plugin. lol
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: if using his plugin manager, had help
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: if you mean find it, its "qpstrack help"
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: or like Bronnie said, "had help" will bringup the helpfiles for all his plugins you have installed
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: there we go, thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: i had made my own cpr command not knowing about haddar's.  was shocked to see the alias worked after I deleted it.
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: if you have the room number do mapper where roomid from aylor, it'll give you the speedwalk to the room which should do as an alternative
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: mis
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: wish MUSHclient can use newer dialects of JS
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: or maybe I just port all my scripts to Lua
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faithful Ruhamah pouts. 
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fidenix Tech: Is there a way to fix my mapper so it knows certain areas?  When I try to use it to go to Goblin Fortress for example it can't find a path to the starting room
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: go to first room and type xset mark
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: I recommend running to `runto <>` for each area once so that your mapper can learn at leats the inefficient speedwalk
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fidenix Tech: I've done so already, same room number in the error and all.  That's why I was confused
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If it cannot find a path to a room, it's because you do not have a path that leads there from where you are. If you are starting from recall, you can do 'speedwalks fortress' and manually walk the path found there. It should generate the map for you, so next time you want to run to the area, it should work.
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fidenix Tech: Appreciate it Crowley, I'll give that a shot and see if it sorts it
T3/r7/2023-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: in mushclient, is there a way to search all your aliases/triggers for a specific keyword?
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could open mcl file, if you mean mush (not plugin) aliases / triggers
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: You mean the keyword is in the action of your alias/trigger?
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I wrote an alias for charging as knight (ch *) that saves the direction I charged in to a variable called charge_dir
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I have no idea why, and must have forgotten my intent when writing it
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: there is the find/find next buttons in the respective list windows
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: so I'm trying to scour my aliases/triggers for charge_dir to see where it's used again
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, I think you'll have to go through the world-file
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: well, the "find" button shows that variable never reoccurs again
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: so I have nfi why I added it
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: maybe I was sleep deprived
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: you could also use the debug command to list all your alises/whatnot... but I don't remember the command itself.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Get VSCode, open the folder in it, use the global search function for charge_dir
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: is there a way to do "overloading" in mushclient? i.e. having an alias for a command that's the same as that command but it does a bunch of other stuff as well?
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: e.g. say every time I typed "spellup" I wanted mushclient to do something else as well as sending "spellup" to the mud, is that a thing that's possible?
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can, yes.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But depending on what you want to do, you can stack commands with MUDside alias, too.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: When you use Send() in a script, or if you send the commands to "World", it bypasses the command interpreter and sends it just as if it were from a non-aliased client.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, alias of spellup can send "spellup" to the world, or you can do Send("spellup"). There isn't recursion here.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nice
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: next question, are temporary triggers a thing? like, when I type spellup, I want to have a couple triggers active, then when they go off I want them to turn themselves off or delete themselves, whichever is better
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Bear in mind that when you send to "Execute" or use "Execute()", it'll run it as you typed it on the command line.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can do that through scripting. There's EnableTrigger("trigger name", <true/false>), or EnableTriggerGroup("groupname", <true/false>)
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nice
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You also do not need the 'true' argument. EnableTrigger("name") assumes true.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Side note, in the Trigger GUI, "name" is "label". In the xml, it's "name".
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: good to know
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh another question, are variables global in MUSHclient by default? like, if I set a variable in my alias, will it still have that value in my triggers, and can they change it and then other triggers can see that changed value?
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Variables are global to the locality.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the what
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Meaning, MUSHclient variables are global to anything created in the MUSHclient itself.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But plugin variables are only global to the same plugin.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you want to call plugin variables, you can do 'GetPluginVariable' (provided it's not a scripting variable). You have to use SetVariable to store it to the plugin's state file so you can access it with GetPluginVariable.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But as far as I know, plugins cannot access variables created in MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: MUSHclient knows how much mana I have (it has a bar and miniwindows and stuff that displays it), is there a way I can access that value?
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: yes. via gmcp
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, that's all from gmcp values.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I actually don't really know much about GMCP
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: require 'gmcphelper', then you can call gmcp("char.vitals.mana"), etc.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nice, that'll do
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hold on, I'll fetch the link.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: https://aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP#aardmodules_char -- That'll tell you the structure of each module.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ooh, sweet, thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish, not sure if Durel reached out to you, but there's an odd bug with ColoursToStyles. If you do: \\\tprint(ColoursToStyles("@GThis line should be green\nThis line should also be green@R\nThis line should be red", nil, nil, true, true)), it changes the color for the second line to another color. But put the @R AFTER the \n, it works. Additionally, if you change 'multiline' parameter from 'true' to 'false', it works correctly in both cases.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Good, glad he reached out to you, then.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: he proposed a fix, but there are other problems with the function so I'm just going to rewrite it
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: can someone help me with how I managed to use a cexit that I level locked till 120?
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: right click the room effected by it on the non-ascii map. you'll get options to edit stuff there.
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: yep, so apparently my mapper runto underdark utilizes clan recall and using a clan exit through uprising. Go to clan recall, then run nun and run uw. However, I level locked the clan recall for nun, so unless I mis-understood how lockexit works, shouldn't the mapper avoid that nun line?
T3/r7/2023-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hey does aard have a way to report spam tells?
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What do you mean, report spam tells?
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nm someone said to just write a note to imm on personal
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: like literal spam, literal unsolicited commercial email
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you have the latest MUSHclient package, you can also mute them.
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but a tell
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: chats mute <player> -- it'll not ignore them, but prevent you from seeing their messages in commlog.
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, geez.
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'd put them on ignore and note the Imms for sure.
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: if you use the chats mute how do you remove someone from it??
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: unmute
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: thanks fiend
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: is there a plugin that reports when double starts? If so where can I find it?
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: so once Signal shuts off SMS between non-app users, i'm basically going to have to chastise idiot relatives for being the weak link? or expecting me to switch text apps to message them? both sound fun
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: is ther eanyway to put the roomid# at top of map window? like name is in the banner/title, could current room# be just top left or something? was thinking stat window, but figured same plugin made more sense :)
T3/r7/2023-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: nm already there thanks Kor!
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: is there a plugin to manage boards and notes?
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: with mapper... if the room you need to get to in Bazaar is Jewels and timepieces. It says it can't find a path. But you can run to shark lounge without a problem and jewels is just dsw from this room. Why can't it calculate the direction to jewels and timepieces? any ideas?
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: possibly you need to open a door check the path
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: solved my problem. Just saved a custom exit from shark lounge to go down.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: just found it a bit strange
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: maybe because it's a hidden exit perhaps.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: I don't remember there being a problem there let me check once I'm out of partroxshit
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: when I look at my run to that room there is an open s on the path
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: where does it break down for you?
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: the exit from the shark lounge is down but not a visible exit it's not closed or anything
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: no cexit 
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: the door south from the room corridor of lies is a nopass door so you might need to open it, could be that if it wasnt' set there you might have accidently fumbled it open and then the sw didn't complete right maybe 
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: mapper was unable to calculate a path to jewels and time pieces until I created a custom exit heading down from shark lounge.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: odd mine went there no cexit I see
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: but if it works :)
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: so strange. Thanks for having a look for me.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: try removing it and going manually then testing it again try echocommand to see what it might be trying to do
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: you can also try mapper where 34581
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: oh had a though are you using night vision?
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Whee. Having fun adding hover-menus to AardCentral's page. Doing direct links, and then hover menus will show what they have to offer from their page.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok, but what about accessibility?
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hover menus may look nice, but what about people who use screen readers?
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's a good point. Not sure how hover links work with screen readers (unless you mouse over them), but at the very least, you can click the link of the contributor to access their repositories directly and see what they have.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: what is AardCentral?
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Trying to minimize space while giving the information.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: If you have the aria tags set correctly screenreaders handle hover links/menus etc just fine
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: AardCentral is a central location for known repositories for Aardwolf from player contributors.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: if you want to test with screen readers there's a free one at https://www.nvaccess.org/download/
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's a work in progress. Gaballon: https://aardcentral.github.io
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: when you say repositories do you mean like github?
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Got a work meeting to go to, so I'll be back later.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Tech Bloke Danj.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nice
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Instead of having people say, "Oh, who has scripts?" they can be directed to the page itself and see who are the known contributors. It won't be just github, though, if anyone has outside pages, etc.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Anyway, meeting time, back in a bit.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: also please just throw some bootstrap at that site, that misaligned table layout hurts my eyes :p
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly at Tech Bloke Danj.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Like I said, a work in progress right now. The misaligned table will be fixed, soon enough. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But trying to do that at work while trying to get patients approved...
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: it looks wonky for me
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, a recent update on something decided it was going to break it.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: https://imgur.com/a/wFjXBi1
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: can't recommend enough how easy it is to create beautiful pages using bootstrap
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Tech Bloke Danj.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'll look into it, Danj. Thanks!
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Gaballon.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That was a result of making a change that decided it would break it at the moment.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: ok wasnt sure if it was some weird firefox thing
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: anyone have 'personal cyber insurance' policy?
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I would assume that would require full strength antivirus and MFA enabled on all accounts that support it
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: because our commercial cyber insurance sure does
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: at my work
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: lol yeah :) i was trying to pay usaa bill and noticed new ooption, funny how lastpass just brought on new lines of business yet refuses to pay anything
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: lastpass is bad, ditch them,
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: they had a breach last year and now are refusing to let people cancel
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: we got out before they started clamping down on cancellations but it's now really hard to cancel apparently
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: if you upgrde to premium account, they let folks 'auto-change' all the passwords the fox already let out of the henhouse. fool me once, twice etc
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Danj, Gaballon: Does it look marginally better now? :p
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: though there's some work to be done on the hover thing
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: only the first hover works for me?
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, yes. But at least it's not "Convenience     Scripts" :p
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i liked the ligher theme personally :)
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, I think I didn't copy over the over for the second one. But they will all have hovers in time.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I prefer dark theme myself
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Light theme sucks! Maybe I'll go with a darker shade of gray instead of all black.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah grey is good
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: To be fair, visually, dark themes are better for sighted people, I think.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If I'm catering to both VI/screen readers and sighted, gray should be a happy medium.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj nods at (Aleister) Crowley.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There, it's dark gray now.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: still liked the first style
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, maybe I'll incorporate theme switching. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: its fine i can deal with grey
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2023-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Menpehtyre Tech: I'm using mushclient on macos, and when I start playing, within a few minutes I get a bast_spellup Run-time error that tells me, among other things, "database is locked," after which the plugin stops working. Is this something other foilks have encountered...and part 2, what's the fix that I'm too stupid to have figured out?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: huh. when did I break the helpfile capture window?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: well sometime after r2252
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: working fine here
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: weird. some code I'm working on that I didn't think should affect it at all has apparently affected it
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meanwhile, Sammael Tech: Tale as old as time
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Still good in r2255
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: so it's recent at least
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yeah, I found when. I just don't know why yet
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh, I fixed it
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ceridwen Tech: Alison here, logged in on a separate client folder because my main one seems broken somehow.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ceridwen Tech: It gives me the error message "Unexpected end of client while waiting for <muclient> (cannot load)
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ceridwen Tech: and then "unexpected file format" after
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ceridwen Tech: I was in the middle of doing a quest when it abruptly crashed on me, and then when I tried reopening it, I got that error.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ceridwen Tech: Any ideas how to fix it?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Hmm I restored from backup, it seems to work now.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Let's hope nothing horrible happened.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I've got some mushclient questions if any knowledgeable people like Crowley or Fiendish are around?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: Mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: (by Fiendish and folk)
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you're in luck. I just got on
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: not sure if that is luck...or bad luck
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: (.*?) = any... what is the equivelant for "single word"? was %w in zmud iirc
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: definitely some kind of luck
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: \w in regex syntax I believe
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: \w!
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: tx
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: see I can help!
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: \w+
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj proves his cool is well past its sell-by date by saying 'YO!' to 1337 H4x0r Fiendish.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: \d works for numbers btw
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: so question 1) is there a tutorial on miniwindows somewhere? like all the way from baby's first miniwindow, to putting "Hello World" on it, through to drawing graphics and text on it and redrawing on resize and handling click events and whatnot?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Kerith: that really depends on what you mean by "word"
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: without the + you only get 1 letter
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: like i want to capture "^kerith" but not "^stuff kerith"
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: many languages have a concept of "word characters" i.e. characters that show up in words, but they're not universally correct in the assessment
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: without the + you only get 1 letter
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: oops
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Miniwindow-Basics
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: question 2) what development environment do people use for writing mushclient plugins? like is there a good visual studio code extension, for example?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Danj: It's xml.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But no plugins for Mushclient that I'm aware of.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Danj: use my DIY easy miniwindows module
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it makes miniwindows muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch easier
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: do not do your own resizing code
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I have done it for you
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: awesome
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: because yeah I was not looking forward to that
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: let me rephrase 
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: although, what if I've drawn a graphic which will need to be redrawn at the new scale on resize?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: start with my module. I'm sure you'll want to do something that is super weird and won't be easy with my module and then we can fix that
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: my module includes a draw on resize callback hook
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I looked through Crowley's aardcentral and nobody in there has thought of the idea I had, as far as I can tell
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Easy-DIY-Miniwindows
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: my module has both do_while_resizing and do_after_resizing 
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: in case what you need to do is too expensive to do live
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: there will be lines and polygons involved, I understand miniwindows are buffered so there's no flicker when they're refreshed/redrawn?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: and to #2 question. Just use any texteditor you prefer. I use notepad++ as it's easiest for win and has enough for my small coding needs for mush
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Danj: I use vscode and just set it to Lua
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: someone...wait...who was it. damn it was just recently...
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah, I thought that might be the case, just wondered if anybody had gone the nine yards to create a whole extension
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: which one of you made the language spec file for mushclient?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: was it Nohh, because I saw a vscode thing in their github
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: one of these yahoos just recently made a language server spec for the mushclient lua api
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: and it's also very helpful
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: that sounds useful
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: let me see if I can find who gave it to me
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh it was orphean
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/aardorphean/mushclient-client-declarations
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it works with the most popular lua language server plugin for vscode
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok, great
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: question #3: is there a way for mushclient to send a command to the mud and capture the output into a variable, or do we still have to do it all with triggers that we enable at the start and disable at the end?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes, I have a module for that too
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ooh
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I was expecting that one to be a "no" based on what I've seen in others' code
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but be warned that if your command doesn't have some kind of tags around it from the game it relies on using echo to simulate tags, which necessarily breaks the atomicity
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: what fiendish is basically saying is.. NO. he just pretends it's possible
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: no documentation available but untagged_output and tagged_output functions here https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/lua/wrapped_captures.lua#L188-L218
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I mean, he's obviously worked on the problem longer than I have, I'll take what I can get to make doing what I want easier
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I use it in several plugins
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yeah, it's easier for sure. But it still uses those triggers..
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: danj: this plugin is basically exactly what you're talking about https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/worlds/plugins/aard_VI_command_output.xml  but it writes the output to the mushclient notepad instead of leaving it in a variable
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anyone who wants to help me by writing documentation for the wrapped captures module is free to do so and will be rewarded handsomely with a byline
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: does this involve learning code like markup or markdown? (obviously im qualified for each by not knowing the name) ?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: just text
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: Fiendish - I sent you a tell to mention which command it is I want to capture the output of
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I saw. I don't know the answer
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'm looking in helpfiles
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: actually...
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the train command doesn't have tags per se, but it does have the lines "Your stats and amount trained are:" and "You have \d+ practice sessions available." which is as good as
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: mm, ok
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but in terms of your wrapped captures module it'd still be a "manual tags" one, though, right?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: only if you don't want to use those lines
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can always force your own manual tags with: echo {train};train;echo {/train}
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you don't need to
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: my module will do the necessary echoing and will do it better than you can
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at 1337 H4x0r Fiendish.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faithful Ruhamah blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faithful Ruhamah falls on her knees and worships 1337 H4x0r Fiendish.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: to be fair I had independently suspected that using echo for fake tags would be the way that it would need to be done before seeing this code
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but I think it doesn't matter because you can use anything as tags as long as it delimits the output
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I haven't dug through the code to see if I can figure out how to work it yet, but it's on my list of things to do.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: also check out help echocommands, it's *super* useful for delimiting command output
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: my module does a lot of complicated fancy stuff with the tags to make sure that they don't stay active for too long and to make sure that you can issue the same command many times without them stepping on each other
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I mean looking at fiendish's code, just from the variable names I feel like I have a good sense of what it expects
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yeah, I tried to make the public interface functions friendly even if I didn't document them
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ok my mushidiotism is winning... i've tried all variations of \w \.w \%w \%.w ... what am i missing? ^(.%w) tells :(:(
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: are you looking for lua patterns or regex?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: regex 
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: kerith: oh, someone said it was (\w+)
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: % is for lua patterns
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: \w is just one character
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah \w is regex
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: so how do i get the "word like Kerith tells?  instead of just k?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the + means more than one
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: well, the + means 1 or more
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: \w is just a letter
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: \w+ is some letters
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: danj: \\\require "tprint" require "wrapped_captures" function my_callback(lines, startline, lastline) print(startline) tprint(lines) print(lastline) end Capture.tagged_output("train", "Your stats and amount trained are:", "You have \\d+ practice sessions available\\.", true, false, false, false, my_callback, false)
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's not entirely correct, Fiendish. \w is not just "letters". It also includes "numbers", which is stupid. In order for it to be just letters, has to be [A-Za-z]+.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yeah, well, like I said the concept of "word characters" is not universally correct
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at 1337 H4x0r Fiendish.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ^(\w+) tells you < got it thank you!
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: wow, I didn't realize that \w includes numbers, I need to fix.... a lot of triggers/aliases...
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: if you just want letters I think there's a different one for that
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: check out regex101.com
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Danj: As I just said, it's literally [A-Za-z]+.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh yeah
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The most ridiculous thing, honestly.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: you'd think there'd be a single-character designation for letters only
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: like there is for digits
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Like, I don't know, \w, since, you know, \a is alphanumeric? :p
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh, this DIY miniwindows documentation is excellent
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj thanks 1337 H4x0r Fiendish heartily.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: damn, the chord mode of WindowCircleOp doesn't do what I thought
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: nick has documentation on all those functions
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah I'm reading it
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://mushclient.com/mushclient/mw_shapes.htm#WindowCircleOp
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh that's much nicer than the link I had
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: screenshots, handy
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yeah, nick has both real documentation and api documentation separate
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: My AardClock was updated to use the DIY windows, and includes drawing Circles in the window.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: One day, I may make it digital, too.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Thank you Crowley. All other plugin authors: be like Crowley. 
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Wait, what?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah I don't want to draw an actual circle, but I DO want to get coordinates of points on a notional circle, given an angle and radius
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Now make SND use DIY miniwindows too :P
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Working on it, Orphean. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: oh that is the best news
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Danj: I had to find coordinates to place the numbers correctly, and have the hands work properly. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I mean I can do the math with cos and sin and all that crap if I have to
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I was just hoping there'd be some nifty function that can do it for me
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh, yeah I see that's what your code does, Crowley
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: alright cool. everything I want to do seems to be a) possible and b) easier than expected
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: whether the result will actually be useful, I'm not actually sure
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but it doesn't seem like anyone else has come up with the same idea
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Now I'm curious what your idea is.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I don't mind telling you if you promise not to steal it :p
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley quickly steals the idea. "Hey guys, new plugin available. Pick it up at: https://www.istoletheideafromDanj.com"
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj rolls on the floor laughing at (Aleister) Crowley's antics!
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: is mushclient regex PCRE? asking because I see a thing labelled "atomic non-capturing group" on regex101.com which is a thing I might want to use
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: orphean you make an autobuild action for your language server file yet?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: soon fiendish, other things got in the way. i'll aim for today/tomorrow
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: cool. danj was just asking about tools earlier, so it reminded me
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: how did i blow things up? :( malformed number near '1..'
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: need more context
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Icecool: I once watched Hackers 3 times in a row back to back to back
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj hacks the Gibson
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: HACK THE PLANET
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I've actually been doing some hacking in recent years, hardware hacking cable modems
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: one of the things I learned is that in consumer electronics UPnP is one of the most unstable piece of shit services I have ever seen
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Fiendish, https://github.com/aardorphean/mushclient-client-declarations/actions/runs/4246243491   It's not a real 'github action' but its a reusable workflow you can just plop into the build. If you need a real action let me know.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Helps if I link the right thing: https://github.com/aardorphean/mushclient-client-declarations/blob/main/.github/workflows/fetch_mushclient_definitions.yml
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, that was a fun project. Someone whined about 'friend ago' not being sorted by length of time, so I wrote a plugin to sort by length of time. Now that someone is (maybe?) going to test it, but if anyone wants to sort your flist on 'friend ago' by the time they were last on, I can link the plugin, too.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: are you using wrapped captures with tags "You are friends with:" and "'Friend wannabe' will show people who want to be your friend." ?
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: could use the blank line at the end as a tag too
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I am not. I just enable trigger group with 'friend ago', and trigger on the blank line. I /could/ probably integrate the wrapped captures to it, though.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerith coughs loudly.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I actually like it, now that I wrote it. It's nice to see which friends have been longest away.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: cough, i tested it, it works :P
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: maybe an option for reversing the sort order tho...*srun*
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm gonna reverse YOUR sort order.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I should make one change to it, though. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Two changes.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Weird that I cannot seem to get the reverse to work.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: make func to reverse the # maybe? i'll shut up now :)
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley rolls his eyes at Kerith.
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: One of my favorite aspects is that it keeps the numbering, too... ;)
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I give up trying to reverse this. It seems that it just does not want to reverse the table, no matter what. :(
T3/r7/2023-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, I fixed it. Yay.
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Does hadar's spellup plugin automatically cast cskills on login?
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Or do I have to do that myself
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: you can configure it to recast cskills
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Yeah, but that only procs when the cskill wears off yeah?
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: If I log on and I don't have my cskill up, will it automatically cast it?
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: does it do that with any spells? i didn't know that was a thing it did at all
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: ATM it only recasts when wears off (so if you linkdead out) when you come in you would need to re-cast all your spells
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: anyone install friendago? i can't get -r to work
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I've had issues with friendago as well, I was talking to crowley about debugging stuff
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: 'friend ago' works fine for me, just cant get the reverse
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: oh wait i'm wrong it is reversing, but not the whole list, the offline and online lists respectively
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The online list never reverses. I just reverse the offline.
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Seems the average curse channel crowd ain't as friendly as here...
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok i am on a cp but Snd will not load the list, how to do i get it back?
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Looking over the available GMCP data (https://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP), and it appears skill / spell trained % isn't available, is that accurate?
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: cp ch usually does it for me
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: try cp info or cp check
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: nope
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: reload snd?
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: yeah, check out slist
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: were you in a gq when this happened?
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok cp info worked, cp cheeck did not, i suauly use cp check
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: or yeah gq will interfere sometimes
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: also the skillgains tag
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tasty Tipro thanks Sat, Sath's butler heartily.
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: lol i haven't used cp check in like years, always xcp or cp info
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: gotem'!
T3/r7/2023-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gurbuz Tech: who has the addon for pupping
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gurbuz Tech: the one where it shows a list of mobs then scans
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gurbuz Tech: then you attack
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gurbuz Tech: who has the auto consider room entry plugin
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: athlau has a maintained version, finger him
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gurbuz Tech: thank you kindly
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gurbuz Tech: damn :(
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gurbuz Tech: guess I'm all by my self now
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gurbuz Tech: by the way how do I make conw cast a spell instead of making it type kill i type 1 and it types kill instead of cast nova
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: make alias to cast nova like nova, and type "conw nova"
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Anyone know how to backup your mushclient? I don't mean copy the folder entirely, just like, adding a new backup to the automated backups 
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: for backing up just the mapper, you can type 'mapper backup'
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: for backing up other content, that will depend on the script 
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, I'm excited for some clear-cut examples of wrapped_captures. I tried, and think I failed miserably. Was going to use it in 'friend ago', and used: Capture.tagged_output("friend ago", "^You are friends with :", "^[^\d]", true, true, true, true, getStatusFromCapture, false) -- and it just didn't fire (at least, last I checked).
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what's your second tag?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh lol not a number
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but none of the ago lines start with a number. they start with a space
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's supposed to look for the first line without a digit as a starting character, though I should make it a space or digit. It ran into problems with compact mode.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: \s+ might be handy for one or more items of whitespace
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, if you have over 100, it starts with a digit.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: fix your end tag pattern and it will work
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: can you have over 100?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Popularity wish gets you to 120.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anyway, it's terminating at the first one
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: because the first one doesn't start with a number
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Trying it from the command line, it's telling me invalid escape sequence near '"^[^' :p
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: fiendish, something doesnt seem to be working with aard layouts and themed miniwins after i updated to latest version
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you're going to have to give me more than "something"
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: it doesnt save the window locations or something. cant figure it out
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: its a themed text window. i use aard layout save and aard layout restore and it doesnt move it at all
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: new plugin?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: does the plugin know that it's supposed to save state?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yea it worked perfectly before i updated mush a couple weeks ago
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: the state file for aard layout is correctly storing the locations, but its not moving it
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I don't think I changed anything recently for layouts
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: know the prior version?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i have a backup from december. can i see the version somewhere without opening mush?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: top line in the version file
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: uh...AardwolfPackageChanges.txt I think it's called
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: k, i updated from 2220 to 2252
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: all the normal windows move as expected, just the themed windows that i created
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Crowley you may need to double the slash
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: lua doesn't have rawstrings
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Is untagged_output put on a timer? Or does it send an echo, command, echo? I don't think what I want to accomplish is going to work with tagged output because compact mode unless I disable compact mode for the command, otherwise it never terminates.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh wait, maybe it will work now that I doubled the slash. Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh, I forgot. actually it does activate compact mode
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, I'll do the ^[\\d\\s] as the end tag. That should work.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I don't remember why 
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I guess I can experiment with whether I can remove that step
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: untagged output makes tags for you with echo
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In the callback functions, are there any more parameters that can be pulled beside: lines, startline, endline? I notice that lines is a styles table, so I had to write my function to grab the text from within the tabled values.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: crowley are you writing docs for the wrapped captures module? as that will be extremely helpful when I start development on my idea tomorrow
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I could ask ChatGPT to write the docs for me and see what it comes up with.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: danj: I wrote some
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh, ok, cool
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I also need to brush off my math skills so I can convert polar coordinates to cartesian coordinates
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj is pleased with himself that he remembered that was what having an angle and a radius was called
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: danj: see now https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/development/MUSHclient/lua/wrapped_captures.lua
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: and I actually did get this from chatgpt
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: though I had to fix some errors
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I just fed it to ChatGPT... this is going to be interesting.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: what's a "style line"
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient's native colorized line format is called "style runs:
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: let me see if I can find a doc aboutit
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: this is something that is surprisingly poorly documented given how much stuff nick has written, but look for the word "textcolour" on https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?dialog=IDD_EDIT_TRIGGER
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I mean, this is what it started out with: The given code is a Lua module that provides functions to capture text output from a MUD client. It uses triggers to capture the output and store it in a table for later use. The captured output can be either tagged or untagged, depending on the public interface function that is called.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Crowley: I copypasted the code in and then asked it to document the two functions
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: just for fun I also asked it why I gave each trigger its own sequence number and it got the answer right
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nice!
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj raises an eyebrow at 1337 H4x0r Fiendish's weird actions.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: actually that's not necessarily the best documentation for it
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the problem is that mushclient actually uses differently verbose representations for style tables in different places in the code
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but in a general sense, style runs are representations of text as lua tables where each colorized section is a subtable in the form {textcolour=int, backcolour=int, text=string, length=number, bold=, ...}
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: is there a way to just get the text if you don't care about the colours?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Crowley: to answer your earlier question, the callback gets styles, starttext, endtext currently
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Danj: I have functions for that in aardwolf_colors.lua
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I have a function StripColorsFromStyles that just extracts raw text
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'll have to look at StripColorsFromStyles, hmm.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: err, apparently I named it strip_colours_from_styles
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: good on you fiendish, keeping with the extra u's :P
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I don't always
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I switch back and forth willy nilly all over
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Color-Functions#why-do-you-use-both-the-american-and-british-spellings-of-color
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, sweet. I might be able to work with this now.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I will likely at some point update the callback to include the styles of the start and end lines instead of just the text. I'm not sure why I didn't do that in the first place
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett snickers with 1337 H4x0r Fiendish about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I will not break compatibility though, so the text inputs will still be there
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i do love me a good honest faq
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hmm. wait so if my style table has multiple lines, will strip_colours_from_styles give me one big string with newlines, or do I get something iterable, like an array?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: newlines
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I'm so spoiled by PowerShell
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but you, at your discretion, can pass each line in separately and not get newlines, or split the result back into a table of individual lines
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient has string split functions
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I will do that second one
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?lua=utils.split to split on a single character like \n
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: excellent
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/lua/string_split.lua if you want to split on a lua pattern
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: makes it possible to split on pcre patterns, but you have to know how rex and gsub work https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/lua/regex_helpers.lua#L1-L27
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: er, "this also makes"
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so you have options
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I've had a lot of time to work on these kinds of things
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj thanks 1337 H4x0r Fiendish heartily.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the color functions in particular have been extremely useful
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: is fiendish here?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'm here now
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what's up
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: your awesome!
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: You see that link I sent you with the reusable workflow?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish wuv A Canadian Wonder. Aww, how coot.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I saw it but haven't used it yet
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Okay just let me know.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i commented out lines 227-229 in aard_layout and that fixed my window problem
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Just making sure you saw the thing since you afk when I sent it
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: dont know why but it did
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: gaballon uh, don't do that
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: its doing something weird
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you're doing something weird
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: thats possible too
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: send me your plugin
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i think the DoAfter is reverting the window to the old location
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that means your plugin is failing to save its location
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but that part of the code has not changed in years
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: ok sec
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: i'm editing a few alises in notpad++ how do I save it as the required .xml ?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: save as test.xml
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: what is the dinv command to figure out the color coded debug messages?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: are you referring to "dinv help notify"?
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: you can specify how much info/debug stuff is reported by dinv with that mode
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: I have a debug message that includes the colors orange, green, blue... wanted to understand what it means
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: i shared an alias for dinv with a friend and instead of 1 potion, its trying to consume everything.  don't understand what happened.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: and now, my own alias is doing the same thing.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If you say what error message you are getting and what command you are running I might be able to help
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: i'm looking closely at the alises.. hang on
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You can tell dinv to consume multiple items in one command.  Is that what you are doing?  Something like "dinv consume small heal 5" will quaff 5 potions for example
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: yeah, i saw that in the help file
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: it looks like I used an item id number in the wrong spot.
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: that would explain it
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: which seems to have fixed the problem. thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: is there a way to automatically create a log file on login for the date you logged in
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Game->Configure->Logging rotates I think
T3/r7/2023-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murderbot Omnivek Tech: anyone know how I can get this message to stop spamming me (other than turning off noexp) Noexp is currently enabled. Threshold is set to 0 exp.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: question I have an older plugin for spellups that hasn't been updated in ages. is there a newer thing out for that. I like having my spells recast when they fall I am using mush
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Try Hadar's spellup (HSP).
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: https://github.com/zzyzzyzzx/Hadar
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Download and install "Plugin Manager", then type "hpm check" and install everything else you want from there.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: ok. if i can find the download part. sometimes when i am there on github i cant figure out how to download the files.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Hadar's spellup is there, but also a bunch of other useful stuff like an hour double predictor
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/zzyzzyzzx/Hadar/master/PluginManager/Hadar_Plugin_Manager.xml
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Click this link, then right click on the page, "save as" -> xml document, in your mushclient folder, worlds -> plugins
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i now love you for this.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Then install it by clicking file -> plugins -> add -> navigating to plugins -> double clicking on Plugin Manager.xml
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Then type hpm check, and it should give you a bunch of clickable buttons to install various plugins, including the spellup one.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: yay that was easy.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i cant click to install anything. not sure what to do about that.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: what does "An error occurred during a connection to www.amazon.com. PR_END_OF_FILE_ERROR" etc... mean? 
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Means your browser couldn't establish a secure connection
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: SSL was invalid for some reason - which it doesn't state.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: is there a way to use dinv search to get only stuff not in containers
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I don't think so
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i guess i can negate every bag in my search :S
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: yeah that's the only way I think ~rloc All The Things
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: hmm and not worn too
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: that possible?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: ~worn doesnt seem to work
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: ugh dinv dont make me hack you
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Durel would accept a patch most likely. If negating worn isn't working then i think you're sol
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: right, breakfast first, then plugin development!
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: I am getting my own little issues. I think I am going to do my own fixing over here.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: of course I cobbled this thing together so yeah. I got this in hand.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: I shall return.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i mean, ive done a bit of dinv hacking for my own stuff already, it takes a bit of time though
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: it wants to deal with bags, its kind of baked into the design :)
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: adding a custom query term probably the way to go
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: thought unequipped might work
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: any mushclient knowledgeable folks here?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: nope
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: need to know how to get text metrics (width and height of a string) of a ThemedBasicWindow
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: WindowTextWidth
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: and height you can get from WindowFontInfo
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: anyone know how I can get error information from stuff I put in the immediate window? trying to test the first part of my script but nothing happens
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nevermind I'm just an idiot that's all
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: forgot to actually CALL my function at the end
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: any ideas how I can index into a table? for example I know I can do for k, v in pairs(t) to iterate through the table, but what if I want to loop through n-1 table entries and be able to access the current table entry and the next table entry during my loop
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: i asked chatgpt your question, with 'in lua' added to front.  it spat out a long answer 
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nevermind figured out a way around it
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: anybody know if there's a way to do opacity/transparency with WindowPolygon fills? like, I want to fill the polygon at say 50% opacity so I can still see what's behind it
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I believe so, but I forget.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh wait, I think that's only on images.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: how does snd choose the order in which to show mobs?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Same order they come on your campaign list, I believe
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seifer Tech: mine display alphabeticly by area, then mob name
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: not sure if i im seeing things or real - the input text bar on my mush seem to be bolded..
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: does using AddAlias during OnPluginInstall not work? or am I just doing it wrong
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: fiendsih around to answer mush qns?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ALLLLLLLLRIGHTY FOLKS
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: can I get a drum roll please?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: rolls a drum down the street.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: after more than 20 years away from the MUD client script development scene, I'm pleased to present... my first ever MUSHclient plugin!
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: https://github.com/danj2k/aardwolf-plugins
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Tech Bloke Danj!!!  Prancin' Garence cheers him on.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: i like that stat visualization
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Danj, care if I add yours to the Aard Central?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: Orc orc orc, Crowley gonna fork.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nope, no forks.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: see now that you did a script ... that means i need to go to my laptop and work on mine, and get away from minecraft for awhile lol
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: is there a way to mapper addnote to a targeted room.  or do i always have to be in said room
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I think you have to be in the room
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, you can just do: 'mapper showroom 12345', and then 'mapper addnote'. But no way to do it remotely otherwise.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: At least, not without opening up the mapper database.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: question.. when gmcp sees INFO, is it able to distinguish if it is a level/death/epicdeath/goal/pk etc?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: Crowley: that would be wonderful, thank you
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: GMCP does not see info.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or rather, INFO messages are not passed through GMCP.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: yea my follow up qns.. then is there a way i can selectively choose what to gag/see. I know ther eis the info command in-game. ideally i wana "see" all by gag accordingly
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: see all info but* gag accordingly
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can use the #gag function to gag certain types of messages.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Can even use regex on it.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh, since you're here, Crowley, do you happen to know if it's possible to use opacity with a WindowPolygon call? I'd like to be able to fill my polygon with 50% opacity, so the gridlines and axes beneath can be seen
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: ok cheers crowley!
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Danj: I answered that earlier. I think only for images, but not WindowCircleOp et al.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh sorry, I missed that
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: pity
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: right, after all that work, I reckon I deserve a drink
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Added to Aard Central. I need to work on it this weekend to get everything set up properly.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I just broke your plugin, Danj.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Too bad Danj is off with a celebratory drink. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, I see why.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yep, easy fix.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: hold on, let me make it more complicated!
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just shot him a tell.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: He didn't account for the * at the end of a stat if you are currently max in it.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: On line 295, change  _, _, current, maximum = string.find(v, "(%d+)%s+(%d+)$") -->  _, _, current, maximum = string.find(v, "(%d+)%s+(%d+)%*?$") -- when you're at max stat (current == maximum), the stat has an * at the end.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: fiendish: i may have figured out the window behaviour
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: good
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what have you learned?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: it seems like if u use the mouse to drag a window then save it works good
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: uh
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: but if u use WindowPosition and WindowResize to move it, it doesnt want to save
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: why are you using windowposition and windowresize?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i tested what aard_layout does
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: it pulls the location and uses those functions then saves
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I know what my plugin does
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: its not working for me though, so when layout restores then saves, it doesnt save the new window location
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: then it reloads the plugin which moves it back to the previous location
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i tested by using WindowPosition and WindowResize then SaveState and watching the state file
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: does this only happen for your plugins and not mine?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: seems like it. do any of yours use themed miniwins?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: helpfile capture does
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: oh i dont use that one
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i can work around it i think by force updating the miniwin variables in an OnPluginSave function
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yep
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I can probably automate that though...
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: uhh
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but it shouldn't be needed
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: if im the only one having problems with layout restore, maybe its just me
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: look at https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/worlds/plugins/aard_ingame_help_window.xml and compare what I'm doing with what you're doing
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: remind me. is this during layout change or theme change?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: layout change
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: what i see is it correctly moves the window to where the layout says it shpuld be, then a split second later it moves back to old location
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: so i think reloading the plugin moves it back bc the savestate didnt save the new location
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'll see if I can do it without reloading the plugins
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: aww yiss closing issues LIKE A BAWSS
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: side note gaballon, I think you shouldn't need to manually hide/show around disable/enable
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: or at least you don't need to hide around disable
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I guess you might still need to show during enable
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: which I can probably fix
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yea idk why i put hides and shows tbh
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: in a script, is there a way (via gmcp maybe?) that I can detect whether the character is in combat or not?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: char.status.state == 8
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: is that in combat, or not in combat?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: https://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP#aard_char_status
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinypotato Tech: 8 is in combat (see https://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP)
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nice, thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: You can! Right click and Add New Tab
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: As many as you want
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: use tabs
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Then you can configure what goes into each tab.
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Spronktar blinks, right-clicks..
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: works great, thanks!
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: quest mobs use mobsay, not say, correct?
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2023-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: lovely.  this should work great then
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: what's that cmd again to check mush version?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: checkversion
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: another silly question
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: full visuals is for vi people?/
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no it's the other way around I think
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: full visuals is for non vi people
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: daamn, brb
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: is there a gmcp for potential/instinct/mastery?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihu Tech: i think no
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerith bursts into tears.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ok tx
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you can check all the gmcp stuff here: https://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ya was just hoping it wasn't updated :p
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: as if
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: can anyone have a look at this and tell me what's wrong with my triggers? they're definitely getting created, they're just... not triggering: https://github.com/danj2k/aardwolf-plugins/blob/main/danj_dmassist.xml
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: question: if you're fighting multiple enemies, does the GMCP char.status.state change in between when you kill one and start on the next one, or not?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: GMCP updates to the next enemy you are aimed at when fighting multiple enemies. You only change status when you are completely out of combat.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: pity
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: is there a way to handle the edge case where you're fighting multiple enemies of the same name?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: what classes have dispel magic, anyway? how do I find that out, the help file doesn't say
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: shwosk dispel magic
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: er, showsk if you spell it right
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nice, thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: apart from dampening field, are there any other spells/skills that do the same as dispel magic?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: negation and cancellation are somewhat related but aren't meant for mobs
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: help showskill, help samespell
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: in my MUSHclient command bar, sometimes when I enter text it goes to the end of the previous line rather than starting a new line, causing an error. Is there any solution for this ?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: what I mean by the previous line is, something I already typed in
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: did you accidentally press the up or down arrow? I believe when you press up arrow it brings up your previous commands
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: it is highlighted, so that normally this doesn't happen, but sometimes it does
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: is there a free alternative to RDP that can handle video better than the Windows RDP?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: what's the debug for snd again?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: xtest debug?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: that works thanks!
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: I have a zip.dll file from who knows where and how old, but somehow it's not in the official MUSHclient package
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: pwar's thing?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Albeathel Tech: Can w
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anyone here using the NVDA screen reader?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: sorry for late reply but if still here I am using nva
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Lejaguar: I'm trying to help someone get set up but for some reason control+tab on their computer doesn't work to switch to the review plugin notepad. Any idea why control+tab wouldn't work?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Does NVDA block control combinations?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: ah yes I am sad to say I referred them to the tech board to ask about that same quesiton Ihave not the foggiest clue why
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: no worries, thanks anyway
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: not that i know of I use control tab all the time
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: I can ctrl+tab through browser tabs
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: there might be some sort of nvda setting that is being weird, who knows.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: scroll lock maybe or function?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: could also be a stuck key
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: I'm looking on the internet... seems if you have shadowplay or whatever you need to turn it off to work but that's not an nvda thing
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hehe. that's nvidia the graphics card company.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: but I don't pretend to know what that is so
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: haha
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cat Lord: Lejaguar nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: thougth I'd bring up just incase :P
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: What is CTRL+TAB in NVDA? Just curious
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: in mushclient it switches to the notepad window 
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Ah okay
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: in NVDA I have no idea. it doesn't seem like it does anything for this person I'm trying to help
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I actually work in accessibility and was confused lol
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: Hmmm this is so weird
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: I hate knowing that someone's having trouble with output when its so useful
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: and not konwing a solution
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: knowing*
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: For sure...
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: and lol shadowplay was the only thing tha thad anything to dow ith control tab not working when I looked it up on google so lol
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Don't worry. You weren't the only one who thought for a second that might be related. :P
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: oh so I'm not alone :P
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Maybe you can change the hotkey for ctrl+tab in Windows or keyboard settings somewhere? No idea. Shouldn't have to, though...
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: yeah I'm looking through my nvda settings right now
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: well I can definitely add a new hotkey to the plugin 
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Wish I knew NVDA better than I do. JAWS fanboy for too long.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but if this one doesn't work imagine all the other ones that don't work
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Yeah, that's kinda..
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Not ideal, heh
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: right?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: THere's nothin' in keyboard settings about control tab
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Areia I am very familiar with most major screen readers. I have to dip for a bit for dinner. However, later, I'd be happy to try and assist you. I can't make any promises, but I'd like to help
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Smittens!!!  Truthless Areia cheers him on.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: To be clear, it's not i who needs the help, but I bet the person would appreciate that maybe!
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Oh okay. Understood. Nonetheless, I'd like to help if I can
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: When the person presses ctrl+tab, what does it do for them?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: My understanding is it does something in the client, not related to NVDA. However, let me do a quick search to see what CTRL+TAB does in NVDA natively
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It doesn't do anything.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I know it does natively, such as when you are viewing web content
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Reason I ask is because there IS NVDA+tab, and I wonder if that's what they are pressing, thinking the NVDA is ctrl.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: I wonder if maybe something happened so that the plugin isn't working propperly somehow... but I just don't see how that'd occur
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: NVDA+TAB.. Think of the NVDA part as being whatever hotkey they want. By default, I believe it's Insert. You can change it to be CAPS if you want
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: When I say they, I don't mean to be offensive. I'm sighted, I just know because this is my job
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, perhaps they set theirs to Ctrl?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prancin' Garence Tech: I can't find the any key.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: I'm not sure that's an option, if it is I can't see it
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: No, it's most likely Insert (default) or CAPS
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: the only options for nvda I've seen is capslock and insert
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm just throwing out possibilities. I know nothing of NVDA myself.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: No problem. I'm just pressed for time :)
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just to confirm, though, their CTRL button DOES work otherwise?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I will definitely try to help when I get back
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Depends on what you use CTRL for
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: For example
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: I'm not sure I could send them a tell but not sure whehter Fiendish is talking to them so don't want to spam them
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: If NVDA is currently speaking, you can press CTRL to silence it
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: How silly would it be if the Ctrl button wasn't working at all? :p
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Smittens.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Used with other keys, it's tough to say. I'm hearing that CTRL+TAB does something in the client, but CTRL+TAB is a native NVDA command too
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Could be lol
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No documentation I've read lists Ctrl+Tab as anything NVDA uses.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: I thought control plus tab just goes between sections of the windows, though sometimes in windows that don't have that option it just does nothing
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Let me turn it on. I'll tell you
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: or maybe that's just JAWS.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Lejaguar, that's ALT+TAB
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: No alt+tab goes between windows, I mean control tab goes from one part of a window to another
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I need to switch to my work laptop. I don't have NVDA on this one
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: actually let me try something...
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: sec
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Lejaguar That could be F6 too
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: for JAWS both F6 and control tab do similar things
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Weird, I'm not sure what CTRL+TAB does, if anything. I could have sworn
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: in my experience, just F6 seems to work more often
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Maybe that's what it is
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Yeah, so F6 is usually how you would switch between panes in like desktop programs. In a web browser, it would be CTRL+F6
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: oh interesting didn't know about contro f6
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Maybe CTRL+TAB is something similar. I need to brush up on that
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: aww their offline rn cant' ask them
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Dang
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Well I have to go, too. But hit me up later if you see me on
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I'll try to help
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: they _do_ use the control key to stop speech
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: so that means that control is working propperly and is not the nvda modifier or whatever
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: no, this is their nvda stop key
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: yeah Control stops speech in both JAWS and NVDA.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: use it all the time it is very useful for stopping spam
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: And what about tab?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so if control stops speech, how does control plus other stuff work?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: control + other stuff should do what the command is set to, and control tab seems to be controled by the specific window settings, because sometimes it doesn't work, but in mushclient... since it is saet to go to the notepad, as I understand it, it should work
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: um, btw... is there a way to somehow turn off the output?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: type tts
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: for me that turns off the screen reader saying what goes on output but I can still use control tab to get to it...
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cat Lord: Lejaguar nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: But was wondering if it was possible to somehow accidentally get rid of the output so you can't get to it... or move it out of screen readers' reach somehow
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: why does it appear good gaming monitors are crap for text(worddocs)
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: goodness for gaming monitors usually means low frame latency
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Because text isn't graphics.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: nothing about fidelity of the image
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: nothing 200% zoom cant fix... but well ..ya.... tho funny enough mush is fine :p
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: kerith you need to get rid of those shrooms
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: I only do booze & dad jokes/puns.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so it turns out that we were able to bypass the ctrl+tab problem because ctrl+alt+spacebar also works
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: who knows why
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: omg that turned on screen reader
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thy Friend Yerald falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: roflmao
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: Think about this Lejaguar... he may not have turned off his screen reader and it read off our laughing.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: So... does NVDA just do stupid things with ctrl+tab..
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: How strange
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: haha
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: lol this is going to bother me though
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: whats the up arrow & counter for on snd miniwindow?
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sets your noexp limit.
T3/r7/2023-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: lolz dont want that! ok tx :)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't De Cide Tech: is there a way to keep my prompt sitting still?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: technically yes, but it requires hiding your prompt and rebuilding it at the bottom
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Can't De Cide goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: one could also add a sticky note to monitor with prompt... would be easier :)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Can't De Cide snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: although adding a 1 line window under main output with your prompt is super easy to do
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hrrdy Grrdy Tech: Does anyone have any pointers to discussion on how the mapper handles segments?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hrrdy Grrdy Tech: I know there's always the source code :)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: segments? I assumed it just does bfs/dfs and that's it
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hrrdy Grrdy Tech: For pathfinding I assume that to be the case as well, however I noticed a segments lookup table in the database and was curious how it is used. I assume it's for the mapper display more than pathfinding.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: ahh... probably the way to display otherwise overlapping rooms?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hrrdy Grrdy Tech: Ahh yeah, that would make sense. Didn't think of that.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hrrdy Grrdy Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: what is the command to copy text with color for mushclient?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: ctrl d
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: np :)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mentalos Tech: When using the dinv plugin, is there a way to "sell all unused items" ?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hrrdy Grrdy Tech: That's a feature i'd love to see.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: There isn't any, sadly
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hrrdy Grrdy Tech: Even being able to use 'unused' in queries would be pretty sweet.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I'm told it's one of the most requested features, though! :P
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mentalos Tech: I see, thanks!
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aquabat Gremten Tech: Has anyone made a plugin that makes making a poll less meh?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Too many variables.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aquabat Gremten Tech: noooooo
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I've thought about it.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aquabat Gremten nudges (Aleister) Crowley.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aquabat Gremten Tech: It's, like, the worst thing I have to do as a clan leader :P
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Actually, could just set up an editor box, I guess, to select things that way. *shrug*
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You /could/ just write an up alias for it in general.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aquabat Gremten Tech: I'm doing a buncha crap to learn unity rn, I just don't have time to relearn lua
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aquabat Gremten Tech: yeah. That's true.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Only thing you'd need to do is actually get the vote number, so you can start a vote, grab the number, store it, and then run the alias off it.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aquabat Gremten Tech: Can alias' have pop up boxes to enter variables?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It can, yes.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But... whatever pops up after 'vote new <name>', you can trigger off that anyway.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aquabat Gremten Tech: And now my brain hurts.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, trigger off vote new, it'll grab the vote number, and the trigger can use that instead.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aquabat Gremten Tech: I'll see what I can codge up
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aquabat Gremten Tech: and then I'll share it so the competent can mock me. :)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aquabat Gremten Tech: I play factoro with an engineer friend of mine and it drives him bonkers how I brute force systems to make them work
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: hi Crowley, question on SND - I'm trying to get the snd miniwindow to pop up after doing an aard layout reset, but all the commands i can think of (xset win, xset winreset, etc) arent resetting the window. is there something I'm missing or should be trying?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adara Tech: reinstall snd?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: tried that, no luck. the window isnt there, but everything else works as normal
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Welding: try xset win show
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adara Tech: could it be hiding behind one of your main windows? move them around a bit?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, xset win on
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: tried both 'xset win show' and 'xset win on', commands seem to work but no luck on finding this elusive window thus far... thought it might be hiding but i dont see anything yet.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: At some point, I plan on implementing it with DIY windows so it'll be more compatible with aard layout.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Try snd reload, too.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: snd reload reloads the campaign targets on the main screen. and, i can still go to them with xcp, but no miniwindow still :( it must be in hiding
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: has to reset the window
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm surprised that nothing has brought it up. I wonder, Welding... have you changed resolution lately from larger to smaller?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: I have, yes :( was seeing if I could "fish" around and try to grab it on this lower res screen, but no luck so far. im guessing its hidden somewhere. but even moving all my stuff to the back, I've had no luck, lol
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ah, it's likely hidden off the screen. Hold on, there's a way I think you can fix that.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: perfect, think thats what I need :) appreciate the efforts
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm surprised that the reset doesn't move it to 0,0... but that may be an error in code. Hold on.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Welding, in command line, do: \\\WindowPosition("sd_window_30000000537461726c696e67", 0, 0, 4, 16)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: I think im doing this wrong, but got the message "the specified path is invalid."
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, you may not have \\\ as your scripting prefix.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Do this instead... Ctrl+I, and paste this in the window, then hit run: WindowPosition("sd_window_30000000537461726c696e67", 0, 0, 4, 16)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: aha!! perfect, pulled it right up :D Thank you so much, saved me a headache this monday morning hahah
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, while you're at it, snd force update beta, xset index areas. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogwater Welding Tech: will do. thank you again :)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: New areas, that'll get rid of the headache of Chakra not being part of the areas.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley beams with pride.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: anyone here tried the psvr2 yet?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm waiting to buy it, in time.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Seen a number of YT videos on it, but haven't watched one yet.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: mine's arriving today, I'll let you know what I think
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I kind of wish it wasn't still wired, but at least it's one wire
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: my newphew broke my psvr, so I told the wife, darn I'm going to have to get a new one, she doesn't know I'm getting the 2 lol
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I am excited to try Resident Evil Village on VR
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: too spooky for me
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh man, I would LOVE to do that.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: How much did it cost you?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: it's funny, RE7 came out with VR capability right when the first VR launched, I think Sony is paying Capcom bookoo bucks to help they're VR launches
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: $550, which if my other one wasn't broken I don't know if I would do
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: the first resident evil on PSVR1 was amazing at the time.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: but Ayla has a quest 2 now so hard to justify PSVR2 (also hard to justify with no time to play it)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: night and day compared to every other VR game, imo, Lasher
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedi Kandorr Tech: using VR is like the inverse of traveling the speed of light, take off the visor and feel like hours have passed, while everyone else is just 30 mins older
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: nod lasher, my PS is next to my work station, so I could pop that baby on during boring conference calls, lol
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: we have to be on video now :(
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I have the PSVR2.  It's amazing :)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: ewww, I'm sorry. We do sometimes, but if it's internal with the same people we don't
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: thanks Durel, now I'm not as nervous for my purchase!
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I do get motion sickness with it, but only when I take it off and reality looks so weird :p
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: It's kind of crazy
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That is a steep cost, but thankfully I have Zip, and I can break it into 4 payments!
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: do you notice a difference between games that were originally made for the first one, like do they look better? Or will it just be a difference for games designed for psvr2?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: actually on the PS page, you can do 4 payments, or even 12 payments no interest, that's what I did
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: this is the first VR I've done so I don't have any experience with the prior stuff.  The only games I've done so far are Call of the Mountain (Horizon) and the demo for a Star Wars game
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I just want to be able to block out the kids and pretend I can't see them and accidentally punch one of them when I go in to punch an enemy.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (not really)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: figured the wife won't recognize $50 per month
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers with Piffaron about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: lol crowley, the not really... some days lol, some days
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I rarely buy things for myself, to be honest. I may have to dig into the pockets and just buy this. Last big purchase I bought was the PS5, though.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: same, I trip over amazon boxes all the time of stuff my wife ordered lol
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm. I wonder if Fiendish would be able to rewrite the wrapped captures functions to include another argument for "tagged_output". The additional argument would identify how many times a certain "endline" needs to show before it determines it is the end of the capture. An example would be: Capture.tagged_output("note list", "Posts in the \\w+ forum :", "^[\\-\\+]+", 3, ...) where the '3' means 'Match the end line 3 times before it considers it the end of the capture.'
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Probably would need to move it to the end, though, to allow backward compatiblity.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: I want to do something based on my alignment, but this "if gmcp("char.status.align") > "745" then" doesnt get evaluated when my alignment goes above 999
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: forgot to do tonumber()
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: but it works with 999 just not 1000 ?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: if tonumber(gmcp("char.status.align")) > 745
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You don't need tonumber.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh, guess I'm wrong then
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: gmcp("char.status.align") returns a string. As long as the number is quoted, it treats it as a string.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: right but he wants to do a number comparison
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So it can either be: tonumber(gmcp("char.status.align")) > 745 or gmcp("char.status.align") > "745".
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: surely those won't be the same result
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That is fair.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: i thought GCMP used JSON under the hood. JSON *has* a numeric type
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it does, but fiendish's gmcphelper returns stuff as strings
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Regardless, it returns correctly, string or number.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: yeah, consistency over complexity
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: but if it doesn't tonumber and it's treated as a string, it'll treat it as a word and after 999, it starts with 1 which comes before 7 which is the first character in 745 so it's viewed as smaller, no?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just tested with \\\local testStr = "745" print(testStr > "743") print(testStr > "763")
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: if tonumber(gmcp("char.status.align")) > 745 then      isnt working either
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: just tried this in the immediate window: result = ("1000" > "745") print(result)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: and the result is false
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh sorry I forgot it's string.tonumber()
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, I was going to say that, too. Just checked with 4 digit numbers.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: if string.tonumber(gmcp("char.status.align")) > 745 then
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: not used to lua yet
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Uh, no string.tonumber.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: if string.tonumber(gmcp("char.status.align")) > 745 then      did not work either
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: huh
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It really is just: if tonumber(gmcp("char.status.align")) > 745
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: are you requiring "gmcphelper" at the start of your script?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: yes, it works at 999 align
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: As for why it's not working for Bloodthorn, it's time for some debugging. Bloodthorn, right before the eval, just do: print(tonumber(gmcp("char.status.align")) and see what it prints out.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ya i used gmcpstatus = gmcp("char.status") ; align=tonumber(gmcpstatus.align)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: adding the print didnt print anything
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Then it's something else with your script.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Now you should do some debug prints, and see where it stops printing.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I can confirm that print(tonumber(gmcp("char.status.align"))) works for me in the immediate window
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: oh I was missing a )
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: doh!
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: I copy/pasted it correctly though ;)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: ok, that output my align correctly, but it was still not evaluated correctly by the trigger
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: what's your trigger command now?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: require "gmcphelper"  print(tonumber(gmcp("char.status.align")))  if gmcp("char.status.align") > "755" then   Execute("go_evil"    end
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: that execute is ended with a ) correctly
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: try this: require "gmcphelper"  print(tonumber(gmcp("char.status.align")))  if tonumber(gmcp("char.status.align")) > 755 then   Execute("go_evil"    end
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh actually there's a missing bracket just before the end
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: I mispasted that part
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but other than that, yeah
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: error attempt to compare string with number
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: you need to remove the quotes around the number
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: you have to do a numerical comparison or the result won't be right
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: that was it, and fixed it, awesome
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: you're welcome
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: and so I understand, the reason it half-worked before is because of the way it interprets strings?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: because of the way strings are compared
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Pretty much, yeah.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: cool, thanks for working that out and helping me understand
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: "999" is greater than "888", but "1000" is not greater than "999" because "1" is not greater than "9"
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: lexical sorting vs numeric
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah that
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: classic foot-gun
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, it goes digit by digit, like it was the alphabet.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: ABC comes before ACB, etc.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: makes sense!
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It is good practice to always treat numbers as numbers. If you have quotes around the number, you're going to run into problems. Just 'tonumber()' the string to make sure you get it right.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Only time it really doesn't matter is if you are checking if they are equal. Then you can do string or number. So, tonumber("123") > 120, but you can do "123" == "123".
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (Still, convert to numbers. Saves you headaches down the road.)
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I forget the reason for converting everything to strings in the gmcp function, but I'm sure I had one
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 9th Tier Yajan snorkles.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: probably simplicity since CallPlugin requires serialization anyway
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: yeah, that's my theory too
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 9th Tier Yajan smart.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: TBH with the years you've been writing plugins, amazed yoj remember half the functions
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: the alternative would've been writing a big switch statement that looked at every single tag that GCMP returns and then condtionally converting it to some other type
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: i'm guessing the only actual types encountered are strings and numbers so it makes sense to simplify
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: or just letting things blow up
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: that's my preference
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: yajan's approach is a good one
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: code it stupidly, until it breaks
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: err simply I mean
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: indeed. It seems like the person calling the function should know whether they expect to treat the value as a number or not.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I don't think lua has a switch statement, does it?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: ummm.. pretty sure I haven't used one if it does
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: no it doesn't
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: just some uggo elseif
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if/else/else/else is sentimentally equivalent though
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: When I was t3 I had a gigantic ugly elseif statement for my attack spell alias covering every level attack spell i had
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: haha
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish, how difficult would it be to modify the tagged_output function to include one more parameter which signifies how many times the 'end line' should show up before it considers it done capturing?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I don't need no elseif, I have goto.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: difficult for whom
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: I mean, there's alternative ways to code around having to use an elseif at all in many cases
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, for you, I suppose. I won't touch that with a 10-foot pole, not yet anyway.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 9th Tier Yajan gotos Erikson for a hug.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: probably not that hard
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: notice me Senpai!
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but I'm juggling too many todos at the moment, so put an issue
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: for example using regex can allow you to not have to use switches for string matching
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I only ask because of Selitos' note requesting hyperlinks on note numbers. It'll be easier to count [\-\+]+ to three than anything else, honestly.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Will submit it as an issue.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: however I guess if it's a different action for each string.. hmm
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: gotta think about this one
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: you could do it as separate triggers/aliases instead of a big scripted elseif set I guess
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: essentially the same is happening behind the scenes but.... less blob in one block.. though I think I'd prefer elseif in that case for debugging purposes
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: much easier to track down what's happening
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: anyway, I think I'm just debating with myself at this point
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: is there a way to see what the name of the last mob you autohunted?  for example if i last autohunted 17.small flower is there a command to retype that
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: unless you have that in a variable, I wouldn't know.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Chances are the autohunt has that variable itself...
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you are using SnD, it stores the variable (if I remember correctly). :p Just gotta look up the variable again.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: yea using snd
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What happens when you just type 'ah'?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MidKnight Gladacus Tech: Afterall it needs someway of knowing what to hu t if the plugin has a pause/resume feature 
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: if i type ah it switches it to ahem
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What version are you on?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: How do you look up the variable, Crow?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, I don't store it if not on quest/etc.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: uh 5.99 beta i think
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Alison: Let me dig through the code again. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Are you talking about outside quests, Dartan?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: just in general but mainly for cp
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It /should/ store it if you haven't switched targets. Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: how do i call it back?  just type ah?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Try that, yeah.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: something is aliasing it to send the mud "ahem" instead
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Alison: local a, b = CallPlugin("30000000537461726C696E67", "target_as_json") print(b) will show the information. I need to modify it to grab just the name itself, though, hmm.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No, 'ah' defaults to 'ahem' if SnD has no target for it. Okay, I'll work on changing that in the near furute. Got a half hour left of work, then all the goodness of getting home, getting kids, making dinner, etc.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Yeah, I mean, is there a command I can enter to grab the variable, or do I have to edit SnD manually to add it?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Here's an example that has happened to me before. I get a CP in FT2. It's "a princess". I sigh and start hunt tricking them. It's 31.princess. Okay. but when I get there, someone else has already killed the mob as they're farming in that section. No biggie. I have other CP mobs to do, so I do them and come back after repop. Wait, what was the princess number again? Do I have to hunt trick all over again and wait through 30 princesses of hunting?!!
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: If I could save/grab the variable somewhere, it would be a breeze.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Also I have echocommands off so after a long hunt trick it can actually be hard to tell which specific number was the final one :P
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i think after repop the pricess number would change anyway
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: 31.princess won't be 31.princess on a repop.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: SnD would ahve to store which room the mob was hunt tricked too, which also might not be the same room after repop
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: i prefer the analog approach of just wandering around aimlessly
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: FT2 is just horrible with princess. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Wouldn't it still be 30. or 32.?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: it won't change by a lot, right?
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It would repop to the top of the list, in repop order.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If every single princess repopped at the same time, then in theory it should remain the same. But that would require all princesses to die in the same repop.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: 31.princess can easily become 10.princess.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's crazy to think that in the past, a player being in the area influenced the repop time.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Selitos has been on the 31.princess train before
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: razor cortex was the worst thing i ever put on my computer on purpose
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: I second that
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: trying to think of something worse, but failing pretty hard
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Crash.
T3/r7/2023-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Mis.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I have hidden the title bar of a mini window. Can someone help me make it appear again so I can move it around?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you should be able to do that from right mouse click on window
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it's in bottom 
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: It's one of the Bast miniwindows. For example, the one that displays Double. With the title bar not there, right clicking doesn't seem to do anything
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Oh...
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: try reloading the plugin?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Nevermind :)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: If I click where the titlebar should be, it opens the menu
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Nevermind, not the menu I thought
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I'll try to reload
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: bast miniwins depend on what window you are using. you should be able to reset it via command
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: In this case, it is miniwin_double
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if it's stats window, command is mstat
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: So I guess mdbl. Just found it
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yeah, then it's just variable from there
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How does one set Mushclient to automatically reconnect when disconnected? Mine doesn't seem to be doing that.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: it's in the options
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Connection > Reconnect on Disconnect
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Was looking in the Configuration window to no avail.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: is there any way to not make the fake tracker window log socials twice??
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if you are using fake tracker, remove socials from normal comm win
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: If I were to create an alias that first does a GMCP check for whether or not I'm asleep and if so do X and then regardless do Y, would tehre be any noticeable lag between that and just having the alias do Y?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Probably not.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Aight, time to add a bunch of gmcp checks, then :D
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I think I've asked this before but I can't remember the answer. Is there anything to trigger off of every new irl day? Is there like a "Player rankings have been reset" or something of the kind?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yes, more or less.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can use a timer set to IRL time.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can also trigger off player rankings and check the time there.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: If I wanted it to follow the mud-reset?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, make the timer fire when the MUD resets the day. So, if you're 3 hours ahead of MUDtime, set it to be 3am.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If it's for a plugin purpose, though, and you want it to be universal, that is a tad more difficult.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Roger, I feel that must be the best option if the mud itself doesn't announce it :)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Well, it's for my own "rankings" really
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I'd love a report on some stuff daily
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: And a comparison to the day before
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not explicitly, that I recall. There's no, "A new day begins." on Aardwolf at midnight, MUD time.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I'm already doing it hourly, based on the rankings updated message... But... You know... Can't have too many stats :P
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: you could subscribe to rankings board and wait for the daily rankings post at 00:00am every day
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Oh, hmm... That's true. It'd message me a "new note posted to..." message every hour, right?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: at 00:00 every day it posts the daily rankings
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Ooh, true!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: board rankings;note list for examples of timing
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: You smart!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Hardly. Just like to think outside the box
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I mean, if /that's/ what you want to do... :p
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But who wants to subscribe to the rankings board?!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: right? so spammy!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (for the record, I also reset my daily stuff, too)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Well... I can always gag it :P
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I have the (un)fortunate opportunity to reside in the eastern timezone, so it's easier. Still, I do make it harder for myself, having it fire off player rankings at midnight. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}# Burning Myth Tech: small note: while rankings are posted at 00:00, it's not 00:00:00, but rather something like 00:00:35 (seconds)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Ewww
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: yeah, rankings are done offset, so if you get that one pup between 00:00:00 and 00:00:35 well, your rankings are going to be skewed.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: And everything is ruined :(
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Best to stop doing anything at 11:59.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: the horror :(
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yes, 11:59, not 23:59.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Yeah, I'll just have to make sure I take a 35 second pause around midnight :P
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}# Burning Myth Tech: actually now it's more like 00:00:19. you can see the exact time if you read notes on Rankings board and pay attention to their posting time (it is up to seconds)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I'm fine with that, very rarely am I here around the time it resets
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I'll just sync my pups with a daily reset and make sure I don't pup more than once every 35 seconds :P
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: The perfect bot
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Hehe, yeah
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: snd cant xrt to chakra? is there any fix?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: xset index areas
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: snd force update beta, though.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I need to fix xset index areas. I'm also working on making something a little better.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: that worked. thanks crowley!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: my mushclient window is messed up, the game is taking up only half if the window and the other half is like plain white/gray. i have tried minimizing, restoring, tiling, maximizing windows, min/max the larger window, restarting computer. not sure what happened
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: when you say "restoring" did you try the resetaard command?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'd do aard layout reset myself, yeah.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: yeah that
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that sounds like the info bar has gone wild
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what happens if you go to View->Info Bar?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: yeah when  I make the info bar go away, i get the whole window again
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the info bar is weirdly draggable and sometimes people accidentally drag it and it breaks
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: somehow info bar stared making things wonky
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I just keep it hidden
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: ohhhhh
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: I use the info bar because i write msgs to it about my player status
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: holy smokes. I just learned just now that you can fully detach the info bar into a floating window
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: look at us all learning things today
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but now I don't know how to put it back
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 9th Tier Yajan frowns.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: (can in Wine anyway. I don't know if this is a real windows thing or not)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: I have mine separated into floating window, never tried to put it back, though
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I don't even know how
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: in windows, not wine
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: lol. i, too, would like to figure out where the drag handles are so i can drag the info bar back
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Ruhamah: I detached it by grabbing the very side edge
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: if you right click you don't get options?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I don't know how to reattach it though so be warned
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yajan: no
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}# Burning Myth Tech: close it and reopen?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: I do get options if right click
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: close reopen doesn't work, rip to my info bar
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}# Burning Myth Tech: or kill process from task manager and restart
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you do? :( not in wine
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: one sec. gonna kill mushclient
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Girthy Redwood Tech: DO IT!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: wine in linux?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: i right clicked, i get a context menu, but not for the info bar
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: nope. still detached
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I can put it back by grabbing the side of the bar and moving it back to left under
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: lol I think I live this way now
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: rip
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anyway, the UX for the info bar is...bad. very bad.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I kinda feel like the space it occupies could just be a miniwindow instead though, and I at least know how to make those
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: well.. I mean it just a cool extra bar I guess.. I've never used it
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: omg II just did something and dragged a shadow of the infobar somewhere else!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: lolz
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: AH!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: reset toolbar locations
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: under the view menu
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: try that
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Fiendish try View>Reset toolbar locations
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish nods at Ayasinda.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: ah yes! that did it
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: lol you figured it out already
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: my life is not ruined, ty
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I still think hiding the info bar and then using a miniwindow instead gives more control, but obviously that would be above the input instead of below it
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faithful Ruhamah rapidly nods twice at 1337 H4x0r Fiendish, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: if i can get 100% usage of the info bar, that would allow so many possibilities. like being able to echo some gmcp stats, etc
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: unrelated to this, I heard from someone that one of your plugins needs zip.dll?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I only ship zip/unzip.exe with mushclient. don't know about any dll
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: i think that is a mistake, i need to figure out what my plugin manager does. i based it off of pwar's on GitHub
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I only use zip for compressed mapper backups, and for that I just shell out
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: utils.shellexecute("cmd", "/C "..execute_string, "", "open", 0)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: my unzip code is here https://github.com/l33t-xyz/l33t-aardwolf-plugins/blob/8bfa004420195d064ead64b9fb482ae2b9231840/l33t_plugin_manager.xml#L483
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: iirc I just copied what Pwar had done, and did not tweak it much
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: require 'zip' 
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I wonder where that comes from
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: looks like pwar made some repos private, this is all I see now: https://github.com/hudmond/hudmond.github.io
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: when SND wants to navigate into a maze, it often fails unless it's by chance targetted the first room of the maze. Is there any way to just route all those mapper actions into the first room of the maze? For example, with gauntlet
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ugh
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Bluefeather uses that, too. IIRC I couldn't find that dll or docs on it anywhere when I looked ages ago.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: annoying
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: I mean, where it came from
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: that's a mapper thing more so than S&D
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I'm not sure snd could navigate through gauntlet because it's random exits let alone mapper.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: agreed, but any work arounds?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: well if the start room is random how would you propose it should work?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: I"m not asking SND to navigate through gauntlet, rather that when I hit "go", the mapper always goes to the first room in gauntlet which I know can be reached
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: you can move the location you want to move to sure.  xset mark I believe.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Make an alias that takes area name as input and runs you to first room of the maze in that area.. is what I did
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: then it always considers that room as the start room
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: you could force the ordering of the rooms to order based on which is lowest room number (typically the "start" room).. in theory
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: depends on the version, in pwars for example if it can't find the destination room it will take me to the area start room set by xset mark or xset mark here forget the exact command.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: but you'd have to know when to override the typical ordering
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: yeah i have aliases for gauntlet maze, grotto maze, etc., but it's just a fraction slower for me to type it out
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: and this is all mapper side again
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Truthless Areia nods at Tasty Tipro.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: xset mark is snd side.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: well an extension.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: I don't think he wants to change entrance room of area though?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: sounds like he does?  He wants to go to room "52" instead of room "1" when going to gauntlet.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: correct, I don't. Maybe if I identify all room IDs in gauntlet maze, I could reroute any mapper goto commands for those to instead hit only the first room in the maze
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: for gauntlet it might work ok
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: since the other mobs aren't targets very often
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: probably more trouble than it's worth. MIght just stick with my aliases and suffer greatly by typing "rt gmaze" :P
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: okay, i'll try to remove the require 'zip'
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but then your zip functions won't work
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I change the area "start" room all the time.  Have to as a hardcore honestly.  It works perfectly for me.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: you could get into the mapper guts of the sorting of results returned from "mapper area" and "mapper find"
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: oh really? darn :(
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: but you'd need a way to know when to do something different than default
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: unless you just always want to sort that way.. I think SnD does some intelligent sorting though when you use mapper find
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: pwar never really got the hang of using github, so his stuff is all bundled up in zip files. maybe it's inside one of them
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: that's an interesting idea, Yajan. Looks like the default is by room ID ascending
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: well why doesn't it work already then :'(
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: most of pwar's stuff is lua, he does have one .dll tho.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: like I've noticed mapper won't go to Sea in Grotto
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: I think because i often kill mobs not in the first room, my "go" command isn't routing to the first room
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yeah I found it
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: it thinks I want the 3rd room of grotto sea to kill the sea serpent or whatever
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ruhamah: download and unpack https://github.com/hudmond/ppm/blob/master/Pwars_Plugin_Manager_v1.33.zip
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: the underlying commands against mapper (I would imagine are mapper area [room name] followed by mapper next)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: he has a zip.dll in there
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: so if they're in room id order, you'd think it'd just go to lowest room num
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: right, that's probably where I got the zip.dll from, but that doesn't help the other person i'm trying to help... at least not immediately
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: I wish I could get a hang of github, been wanting to write some plugins.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: It just means you need to distribute the dll too if you want to use that method 
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: k
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: Yes Pwar's will 100% not work without the .ddl and it has to be in the root folder I believe.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: I think you could provide some conditional stuff so if you send mapper area [grotto] you could change the sort order manually
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: might be the cleanest
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: whew, finally fixed my aard layout
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anyone using a screenreader right now?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Truthless Areia peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hi. Areia: is it normal for vi to be pronounced as six? It feels strange for a reader to read roman numerals.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: this is what i've been wondering about too!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Of course not, six is a text editor.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: JAWS reads II and III as 'two' and 'three'. Otherwise... nope, pronounces it phonetically.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Albeathel's NVDA says six, which tells me that perhaps "vi" is not a great acronym for us to use.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Hahaha
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Yeah.. maybe not
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: i was planning on writing a note that we should change it all to blind
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: There's nothing wrong with it IMO. 'Course you'll always get people who prefer to be referred to this or that way, but..
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Truthless Areia shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I get that, but we need something that doesn't break 
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Right
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: is there a different short word that would work?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Low-vision? Not very short though. Uh
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it doesn't need to be extremely short. people know how to type, as long as the spelling isn't ambiguous
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: also ideally with no dashes i think
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Truthless Areia agrees!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: properly we should  be referring to the technology not the person
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: reader mode, not vi mode
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Also
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: i kept looking at your non-visual base for screen readers and trying to think how that could be shortened
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: V.I. could work
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: if we're telling people in help vi-tips to turn off punctuation would they hear the dots?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: No screen reader should trip over that
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: at least for the commands it should be something that doesn't require punctuation that isn't normally spoken
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Truthless Areia nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Fair
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: it's long but screen reader mode?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: typhlotic
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: i wonder if there's a word with a more positive twist. something that would be more fun to type
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: hmm sightless isn't horrible i guess
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: night vision mode. I lived with an old blind woman for several years, and she'd always say that she saw just as well in the dark. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Truthless Areia snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: hmm i love that
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I don't have any emotional skin in the game, but it seems to me that as long as Perkins calls itself the school for the blind that using "blind" should be fine unless a bunch of people complain about it
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: i do remember lasher saying that eventually it should all be switched to blind
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Truthless Areia agrees!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: i don't know if eventually is now but i do know that the vi help files are useless if you type help six or help 6!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: help meh
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: I need teh helpz
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Truthless Areia peers intently at 9th Tier Yajan.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: What up
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, regarding SnD, if you do: 'snd force update beta', there's xset maze, which you can use to mark the first room of a maze. Then, when it pops up on the list, the maze start will always be the first go location. You can also create your own 'xrt' to any room in the MUD you want. For instance, if you wanted to runto the start of the gauntlet maze with 'xrt', you can go to the start room, type 'xset mark gauntmaze' and then from that point forward, do 'xrt gauntmaze' to go there.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: something to consider about using blind is that if you help search blind a lot comes up it might be confused with spells for blindness
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There are some Beta options that aren't in the master yet. Fleshing out some things, and obviously 'beta' means 'bugs possible', so...
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: nice!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: cool feature
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: i'm looking at blind animals there's hydra or mole. 
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: then of course there's daredevil for a superhero
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: in regards to Dinv.  What sets the find value for "clan".  For example dinv search clan pyre works just fine, but dinv search clan druid does not (while dinv search clan druids) does work.  Is this just a hard coded list of clan identifiers?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: that's weird its druids rather than druid
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: ran into this before, its not the clan shortname, its a string match on the long name
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: and whole-word matching only like keyword acts for dinv
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: eg: dinv search clan administration will return wolf clan stuff like db tokens :)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: that explains it, dinv search clan circle also works.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoyalFlush Kelaire Tech: For what it's worth if you really care deep down inside - local clan = inv.items.getStatField(objId, invStatFieldClan) or "" is the line called to get it, calling a function which is basically parsing invmon/invdata output
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: awesome thanks Kelaire.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: anyone have a link for the aarch tracker plugin?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I think Areia updated one, but Cynik had the original.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: wasn't that winds tracker?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: that'll help with my googling, thx
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sommeil shrugs in response to Ralyn's question.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: no idea, I'm not there yet
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sommeil: Check AardCentral (link in my finger).
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Still a work in progress, but you can get to Areia's that way.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Ya, that's for winds. I don't do Aarch ^^
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sommeil nods at Truthless Areia.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: someone does, though... somewhere
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Ruh? Zaf?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Maybe Zaf.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, you said Aarch, not Winds. Ugh.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: My mistake.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Thanks for Aard Central, Crowley. I have most of these scripts, but I found a few I missed - like a window for autoX settings so I don't accidentally hit the dark genie general again.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly at Ingenue Alison.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: i have an aarch plugin if you need one
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I use aarch report
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If anyone knows of any I've missed on there, let me know, too.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm not sure I have Ruhamah's up there yet.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Lord LiamSmythe Tech: what is (Aleister) mean
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That is my pretitle.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Though I renamed to Crowley based on Supernatural, most people assumed it was Aleister Crowley, so I just adopted that as my pretitle.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Lord LiamSmythe Tech: oh... ok
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: All this time, I just assumed Aleister Crowley was Crowley's full name on Supernatural.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles at Summoner Yuna's joke.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: For the record, Crowley's real name was Fergus Roderick MacLeod. Crowley was his demon name, and his only name, after his death as a human.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vandit Tech: spoiler alert
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: He became a demon after dying?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: of the clan MacLeod. born in the highlands of scotland 
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Lord LiamSmythe Tech: lol... i'm litereally from the Clann Smythe -- from the Scottish Isles
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: in the end there can be only one
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: does mushclient and/or fiendish's extensions to it have JSON support/capability?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I like using this: https://github.com/rxi/json.lua
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Serialization and deserialization.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: haha, yeah, found that one, just wondered if there was a builtin one
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Well it ships with Mushclient/lua/json
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: You can use the libs in there
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: (that was a file path if it wasn't clear)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: next question then, is there a way to do https API requests with mushclient?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I found some forum post from 6 years ago that looks icky, is there a better way since then?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can, yes.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: 'melvin, !weather 13219'
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: [Melvin]: Syracuse, NY 13219, USA: Overcast Temp: 36F (2.2C) Feels like: 27F (-2.8C) Humidity: 73%  Wind: W at 19 mph. Visibility: 10 miles. Cloud cover: 100% Current time: 15:51
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nice, what do you use to do that? and can it do custom headers?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: (needed for API key auth)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Melvin is full of API requests. Fiendish's async module does https request asynchronously.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can do custom headers, yes.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hadar's Discord notification has some header information, too.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Dig through the async.lua file. I haven't done any real auth myself, but Melvin can even chat with you using a chat bot loaded through API.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, here's the example from the Discord plugin: local body = {} body["headers"] = {} local encode = json.encode(payload) body.headers["content-type"] = "application/json" body["source"] = encode async.doAsyncRemoteRequest(wHook, result_function, "HTTPS", 120, timeout_function, body)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh but wait, if there's this Melvin thing, probably somebody already thought to do what I was thinking of, which is web search results? does it already do that?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: sending a GET request to wttr.in or something is probably a little less complex than interacting with Google's search API
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: but the basic components are there yeah
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: Google doesn't have a web search API
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: they have site search APIs
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but no API that lets you get the same results you get when you type into google
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: however, bing does
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: and it returns JSON
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Melvin's search is ... less than okay. I haven't really gotten deep into that myself. Just focused on other things like weather, insults, trivia...
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: He also does horoscopes. :p
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I've planned on expanding him out even further, but haven't put serious work into him in a bit.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also... this, too...
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: 'melvin, !fact'
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: [Melvin]: People in nudist colonies play volleyball more than any other sport.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Anyway, time for me to get heading home from work!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I guess the other question is, is being able to search web stuff directly from mushclient useful? I mean, it kinda seems like it ought to be...
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Maybe? Might just be a niche market, though.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Could create a miniwindow to display the browser stuff.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley waves happily.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: for https requests use async.lua. for json serialization/deserialization use json.lua. 
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: fiendish: what about url encode? apparently bing's API uses get requests rather than POST
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: async.lua doesn't care what kind of request you're sending
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no but I mean, I need to url encode my search parameters because they have to go in the URL
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: got it. one sec
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: just wondered if there's a builtin or something you provide that does urlencode
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh. I'm looking at this and making the "I guess!" face: https://rosettacode.org/wiki/URL_encoding#Lua
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: do you need to encode a string or build the string from a table?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: encode a string
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: "my search text" => "hxxps://bing.api.url/whatever?q=my+search+text"
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: is the sort of encoding I mean
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Whenever I open my mushclient, I get the following error window: Line 3153: Unexpected end-of-file while looking for </muclient> (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Then, when I close it, I get: "Unexpected File format".
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: got it, that function won't give you + symbols
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: And then it refuses to open my Aardwolf game. I have to reload from a backup.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj nods at 1337 H4x0r Fiendish.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: What is going on there and how do I fix it?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it will give you %20
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: well the </muclient> thing sounds related to plugins
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: so maybe you have a busted/corrupted plugin somewhere?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Perhaps Danj. Should I try disabling all plugins and reloading?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Alison: world file reading problem
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: where is your mushclient folder
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Ah. How do I fix that?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Desktop
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmm. that particular error message is a big umbrella error that doesn't tell you exactly what's going wrong
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: is there another error at the same time?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: No other errors other than the one I described
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Is there a way to make a new world file or something? 
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Or get the backup version's world file to override the corrupted one?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Since I can reload from a backup just fine
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: danj: I don't think we have a premade urlencode function anywhere
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah I think I can just tweak that rosetta code one to make it work how it should
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: I keep getting an error with danj's new stat plugin, https://imgur.com/a/Lc6DIf8
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Alison: if you can find a way to share your mushclient folder with me, I can look and fix it
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if you want
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: What's the best way to do so, Fiendish?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: @Bronnie: please post an issue on github! https://github.com/danj2k/aardwolf-plugins then I can have a look tomorrow
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: have reloaded, closed/reopened, get same error when try to turn it on
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: quit mushclient and zip the folder first, then dropbox, wetransfer, email if it fits, any other file transfer method that is private
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: @Bronnie: also when you post an issue please include a screenshot of how "train" looks for you
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: because it probably means I messed up a trigger
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: alison: did it just start happening recently?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: she's logged off, possibly to do as you've asked
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: rip
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: If I have an alias called "t *" which then sets %1 as the value for arget. How do I get it to display a message like: "Target: <target name>
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: ...when I target something
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: ColourNote("white", "black" ,"Target: " .. %1) would display it.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: With white text on a black background
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Thank you. I tried that last night, but it didn't work. Probably user error
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I will try again
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Just try ColourNote("","","Target: " .. %1) and add in colors after the fact. It should work fine :)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: or just use Note but that's no fun.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: not .. %1 though...
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: "Target: %1"
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Got it
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I mean either would work...
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I'm not doing something right. It's just sending %1 and the ColourNote text to the variable
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: cat
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: oops
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ignore it if you want, but Cheesy Anssett actually meows at Smittens!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: may have to check expand variables
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: It is checked. It is able to set the value of the variable. It's just including everything
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: cause you need to send to: script for this to work
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Let me try
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I'm not sure how to get it to set the variable that way. Sorry, I'm a little new. Normally, from what I've read, you have to set it to variable for it to write to it
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I'll take a look though
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: "send to" dialog below the big send textbox
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: Yeah, I see that. I had it set to Variable since I was setting variables but that isn't right, I don't think. I tried script and now it's giving me an error about the ColourNote
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: This isn't a huge deal, it all works. I just wanted a message to appear to confirm it worked when I'm doing it
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: SetVariable("name", "value")
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I will try that
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: That was it. Thank you
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smittens Tech: I'll remember that
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Regarding url encode, Are you referring to url escape? url = require 'socket.url' --> url.escape(str) will turn "This is something" to "This%20is%20something"
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If it is what I think it is, then: socket = require 'socket' url = require 'socket.url' and then using url.escape on any url.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh lol. I forgot about the whole other luasocket directory 
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: is there some way of preventing themed_miniwindows from flickering on redraw?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: oh, I didn't notice this set_text method :P
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: are you deferring the update until after you've made all your changes?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I was doing window:clear(); window:add_text(text)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I assume window:set_text(text) will be better
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if you pass false to the clear function then it won't try to draw again immediately
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: oh, neat
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: likewise with add_text
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you can clear, add all your text, and then call draw manually
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: what's the call for draw?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: window:draw()
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Easy-DIY-Miniwindows#if-you-set-draw_after-to-false-and-later-want-to-draw-the-additions-call
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: hmm. There's a way to clear output without using trigger ommit option? or is this something else?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: "clear" output as in erase the entire main screen?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: in my 2020 version of themed_miniwindows.lua, clear doesn't appear to have any parameters, is it an addition within the last few years?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: ah
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Sath: I don't care enough to answer that. feel free to update
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: so no way to easily errase just one line without using the trigger otpion
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: sorry. My typing
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: so no way to easily erase just one line without using the trigger option
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Lejaguar technically you can remove any line from output, it just might be more or less convoluted depending on which line you want to remove
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: ah
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: fine, it does appear to be an addition within the last couple years. I'll have to find some other solution that allows for backwards compatibility
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: why not update?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: because I want to distribute this plugin to others who may not be on a new version of mushclient or want to update
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yikes. good luck.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it's better for everyone if you tell them to update though
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it's not because they won't
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish comforts Sath.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you can try manually halting the repaint buffer plugin
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: there's a call for that
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I think I can probably just clear the textrect directly
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: which won't invoke a draw
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: maybe. beware of side effects.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if you need, you can use CallPlugin to invoke the pause and resume functions in https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/worlds/plugins/aard_repaint_buffer.xml
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: just don't leave it hanging for too long, you know?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: ok, thanks
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: my code basically never uses redraw or repaint unless I think it's necessary to work around a weird bug in mushclient. I always invoke CallPlugin("abc1a0944ae4af7586ce88dc", "BufferedRepaint"), and the pause will block that from taking effect
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: guinness? does it work for you now? anyone flickering still?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: appreciate the help
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: sure thing
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: sorry people don't like updating
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I know it probably makes things a lot harder for you
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: IMO you should tell them that though
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: lean on their desire to have you make things to get them to make your life easier
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: part of it is that I'm not even necessarily involved in the installation of my plugin. So if they install it while I'm not around and it doesn't work, they move on with their life
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: so where possible I aim for backwards compatibility
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: pretty much everything I do is backwards compatible. It's just not forward compatible.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: your forward compatiblity is my backward compatibility :P
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: yeah... that's why my plugins are like !!! PLUGIN REQUIRES MUSH CLIENT r2245 or LATER !!!
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I think I've made one backwards incompatible change ever and that was when S&D broke that one time, but people moved on and fixed their broken thing and everything got better
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: not counting accidents of course
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anyway, I know what you mean re my forwards is your backwards, because your plugin is a consumer of the framework 
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but the position does kinda stick you with reimplementing things I've already implemented for you
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: luckily, in this case it was just a single line fix that *definitely* won't have any side effects with any future version of themed_miniwindows, like, for sure ;)
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: just don't edit the lua file and you're _probably_ ok?
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Rendering of xterm truecolor is very well supported. But I understand the concern about official client support.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Just throwing it out there.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: rendering is not sufficient
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: people rely on being able to convert back and forth
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Athlau nods at 1337 H4x0r Fiendish.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it only works because I wrote the code for it
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Well, if it is a thing that could be explored on the test port serverside, you do not necessarily need to be the person to update aardwolf_colors.lua
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ok but seriously
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: I would rather see restrictions on string length not include color codes so we could color as we wished with the limits of the string itself affected
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish nods at Selitos.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: same
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I don't think those are mutually exclusive? They are complementary if anything.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: 256 colors seem enough but with the 4 chars it takes to use xterm it makes it tough to use for restricted strings
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: lol imagine if the length limit stayed the same and color codes suddenly took 15 characters hahahaha. Ok you can use any color you want but only one of them
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: apart from very much not wanting to do the work to support a new color mechanism, I also don't really see the need for more than the 6x6x6 color cube plus umpteen greys
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I'm actually suprised about that since you've expressed some interest in things like color animation, etc elsewhere.
T3/r7/2023-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: But it was just an idea :)
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauric Tech: is there a site with additional plugins for MUSHClient?
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I've collected all the ones I know of on Aard Central.
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: aardcentral.github.io
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: People are free to suggest others to add, too, but I that I've gotten most of the known contributors.
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can also read through 'help www' for a list of other helpful sites.
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauric Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: im running mush through virtualbox and having trouble getting media to sound through my physical speakers. It's not just MUSH, youtube also wont play. From what I've googled, looks like I have everything correct. Any thoughts?
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: Tipro - been a while since I've fiddled with virtualbox, but you might check the settings to make sure you've got a sound driver assigned?
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: Most of the time I'm dealing with virtualization, it's Hyper-V and I don't care about sound <_<
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: Blogpost from LastPass CEO an hour ago reads like the idiot at the blackjack table who'll say "hit me" at dual 19s (probably split on 7s, seems about a product managers level of competence)
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: but mushambo, i'm a product manager
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: there is still no mention of any restitution payments to customers thoug
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: are you a CEO in charge of passwords for millions of folks and keep lying to your customers? 
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: anyone know why dinv won't equip my helm of true sight even though I set high priorities for detectinvis and detecthidden in this level range?
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: not sure, but maybe the priority should be for true sight rather than the individual? 
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: what level range did you set for your help?  You are T9 so you would have 90 added to the level range -- it wouldn't be 1-10 for example.
T3/r7/2023-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Priory level ranges go from level 1 to 291
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepsi Tech: hello, how can i add open door before going to next room in mapper?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: mapper cexit op w;w
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: sorry, mapper cexit op w;;w
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepsi Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: dadgummit, dinv keeps losing my container organize queries. anyone else seen this? every couple days i have to reapply the commands
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: do you put the containers down or give them away at any point?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: Ooh, wait. This might be embarassing. Does death count?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: if you die and you have to loot your body, you also need to dinv refresh all after you've got all your stuff back
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: you need to refresh on death yes, but it shouldn't wipe the organize details unless you refresh without them on you
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: Hmmmmmm. I'm not doing a refresh *on purpose*, I don't think. Is there any chance dinv fires one off of its own accord, possibly fencing/omitting it?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: it does refresh automatically on a regular basis unless you turn that off
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: Got it. Thanks, I can work with this.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: but you will want to do a refresh all as soon as you've looted yourself, in general :p otherwise portals and potions don't work if you use em through dinv
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Neeper is agreeing with that Cheesy Anssett person again...
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: yeah i've learned that lesson
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: we all have
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: fyi figured out what I did that was messing up dinv... my priority had actual levels rather than tier/equipment levels for that range.. so I was already "out of it" when starting a remort
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: re: why isn't dinv equipping my helm of true sight
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I must have just missed you yesterday when you asked :p  --> [01 Mar 20:06:21] Durel Tech: what level range did you set for your help?  You are T9 so you would have 90 added to the level range -- it wouldn't be 1-10 for example.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: for mine I set detect invis/detect hidden to 999 for 1 to 91
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kuppik Tech: heya I'm not sure. Is it possible to update blowtorch mapper database with mushclient mapper database? I already have a lot mapped there.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Possible, maybe. Depends on how Blowtorch stores its mapper data. If it's in similar fashion, then you can migrate it over.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If it's drastically different, you may have issues.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'd say ask Shindo, but he's been MIA since October.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kuppik Tech: I see, thanks a lot! :) I might try toying with it until he comes around
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: @Durel thanks.. that's essentially what was the issue
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: had like a 1-21 range I had setup, which of course I was out of from the start
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hey, does the mud do unicode yet? can we do emojis
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: does mushclient have like a notes window, where you can leave yourself notes?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Window -> New Window.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or... maybe not that way.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no that was awful
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It was, I agree.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I'd make a note never to do that again but I still don't have anywhere to make notes
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj starts slamming his head into a drum repeatedly.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It actually does open up a notepad, but appears to be a bug.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: the main mushclient site has a plugin list which contains a notepad
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you go to Window, you'll see Window 2 Notepad.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But there's window 3, which is dumb.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: obvious solution is obvious.  linux plugin for mush.  use vim.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I mean MUSHclient should basically become a modern day emacs at this point
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: no! emacs is the word processor of the devil.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Surely you mean vi vi vi, number of the beast
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: back in the day I was a big emacs fan
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So the notepad window just resides in window - Notepad, and you can switch to it. But if you're looking for one you can just type into while playing Aard, only thing I can thing of is an edit box.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: these days I just use notepad++ and vscode on windows, and nano on linux
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: vscode + sumneko lua language server + orphean's mushclient language definitions works real well for mushclient plugin development, I'm finding
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: lol since my family has a microsoft subscription, I just end up using microsoft visual studio instead of vscode....
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: full visual studio is kinda too heavyweight for something like this though
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: like, sure, if I'm developing a full on c# app I'll want the full fat studio
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: hehe, must have all the bells and whistles
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but for mushclient plugins it's overkill
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, I just use vscode for it.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i don't know if full vs even has lua support rofl
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hell, you can even put VScode on the cloud.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: also that, what anssett said
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: though to be fair, i code most of plugins on notepadd++
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I'm glad you found it useful Danj
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj thanks Orphean heartily.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I like having the completion and lack of vscode yelling at me :P
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: there's still a few bits missing, btw
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Oh well I'll be happy to add them.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: but for python and pytorch stuff, i find that my jank visual studio setup is working pretty well...only problem is my computers don't have gpu for cuda...
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I still get some yellow wavy lines on some of the bits in my plugins
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Just let me know
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: you have a github, right?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I'll post an issue there
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: finger me, yueah
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Orphean: I want some musclient language definitions, too.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: crowley: https://github.com/aardorphean/mushclient-client-declarations
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: They should be included in the official client install at some point. I made Fiendish a github workflow he can use to generate and include it automatically.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I saw.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Very nice, Orphean.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: so what can you do with orphean's language definitions to pull mush api into vscode? I've never done stuff that is this involved, so any simple examples?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Well if you're using the most popular Lua plugin for VSCode you just have to drop mushclient_definitions.lua into your library include path. The repo has a simple example of how I have configured it.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I'm happy to help too.\
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: i guess i mean why do we need mushclient api globals? I feel like most plugin things aren't that complicated?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Well you don't need them :)
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: or how do they help, like is there a plugin that uses them as an example i can learn from/look at?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: They just inform the language server that these functions exist and there are the parameters they accept.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: ah so help with compiler stuff?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: So rather than displaying a squiggly yellow line saying its an undefined global you get completion, etc for it.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: got it, hehe yeah i can see why notepad++ won't be affected, so makes it much more like an actual program language
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: Having some issue with the mapper. It complained about not having a default room set for an area, so I manually used runto and xset mark. Reset back to recall and tried to xrt to the area, and the mapper says there's no default start room. I guess my question would be, is there maybe a debug mode i could enable, idk where to begin troubleshooting the black-box
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: xset commands are s&d not mapper 
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: which snd are you using?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: 5.99
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: crowley/pwar/something ancient?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: Authored by Crowley, according to the banner
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: oh hey, that banner has a tip about xset index areas
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i'm guessing that it may be dependent on the area you're trying to run to as well
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: ah you're lev 6 so it isn't something goofy like planes
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: chaprenula, in this case
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: SHOULD be straightforward pathing, right?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: and you're doing an xrt lab?
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: but yeah no cexits in that path
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: xrt lab does work. the runto is chaprenula which threw me off. still doesn't explain why snd didn't recognize the area despite my visiting it multiple times and running an index. but one problem at a time
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i htink rt does some interpretation on where you want to run on name matching, and snd does not
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: regardless, the "correct" keyword in snd for Chaprenula is lab, afaik
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i do not know how you would add more keywords for areas
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i believe snd uses "mapper areas" for the names....
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it may
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: that would make sense
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: It depends on the version, xrt chaprenula works for Pwar's for instance.  Not sure how Crowley's works with xrt/areas personally.
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: it's been having problems with dortmund, lab, amusement, and....pet store? I haven't gotten to that one yet
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: even after visiting the area, snd won't update even after reloads and manual reindexes
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: as far as i know, there is no "correct" way to change area keywords in crowley's snd
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: try typing mapper areas
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: you can xset mark (aliasword) << without ()
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: there maybe triggers based on that
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: I did, but it seems to be unsorted. At 241 areas mapped, that's pretty hard
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: the area I'm standing in right this second doesn't seem o be on the list though
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: what area
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: fwiw, I think I figured out the problem I was having with snd and the mapper. These low level zones all had speedwalks that amounted to `runto 3e3s3w3n
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: ding dang semicolons
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: fwiw, I think I figured out the problem I was having with snd and the mapper. These low level zones all had speedwalks that amounted to `runto 3e3s3w3n;custom action`, which the mapper didn't pick up on, so it naturally did not have a route to that area. Once I examined the raw speedwalk I was able to identify the problem
T3/r7/2023-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: ah! so "custom action" got put into the runto and custom is invalid ?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: is there a better way to turn on/off sounds than renaming the sound folder? :)
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: spmute?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: where does the white go when the snow melts my mushclient...
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: will that turn off all sounds across all scripts?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: no just the soundpack. you want all sounds off?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the white hides from the rain with the birds
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yeah, like when i am on a zoom call :) I just rename the sounds folder as my fix
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: ctrl-alt-b?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: zhalut: do you background mushclient or still playing?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: is this a real question? NO ONE is active in zoom call. 
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: hmmm, it's a foreground in a second screen but generally not playing when i turn off sound -- really letting the quest timer tick down
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you can stop sound playing with ctrl-alt-b
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmm, but not permanently
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I think that only stops sounds that are active at the time
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if you keep mushclient backgrounded, you can disable playing sounds while in the backround
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: interesting. how do we disable sounds while MUSH is in the background?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: aard sounds in background
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but off while backgrounded is the default setting
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so if you didn't change that then it should already be off while backgrounded
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: i forgot.. what is the command to turn these off: {skillgain}185,90
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fachtna, type 'tags' to see all the options. For your particular one, it's tags skillgains off
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fachtna Tech: thank you :)
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish: Does this behavior happen to you? Go to Window -> New Window. When I did that yesterday, it created a Notepad window AND a second, smaller Aardwolf window.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: My main was still in Window 1, so I could close out 3, but... it shouldn't be creating new Aardwolf windows, I feel.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what is it that you expect new window to do?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mine does not create a notepad, only a second aardwolf window
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: mine created a very small new window... =(
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: are you sure it's creating the notepad and not just exposing an existing one?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Mine created a notepad AND a second Aardwolf window. But Danj was looking for notepad options in Mushclient yesterday.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'll double check.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the VI review buffers and command capture plugins both create notepads
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Stormwind: If you go to Window -> and your second Aardwolf window, you can close that out. Then go to 1, and maximize it.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm, it did not open up a notepad window this time, but I'm not sure when I ever opened one up before. Interesting.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, disregard, then. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anyway, the Window menu is probably from Win32 MFC and not really set there by MUSHclient. It would be better to just not have a new window entry at all.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Calm Stormwind Tech: odd it iddnt open a new window, closed my original and open a new smaller window.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the idea of a new window doesn't make any sense
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: For some reason, I had thought it opened up a notepad window. And now I see why - it's under Edit, not Window.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it's unlikely that danj wants manually invoked notepads. AppendToNotepad, ReplaceNotepad, SendToNotepad, NotepadReadOnly, etc functions seem more up his alley
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: He wanted notepad to keep track of some things (likely trigger lines, etc) without having to switch to an external notepad, I believe.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that's...uh...silly, though. switching to another program is actually faster than switching to mushclient's notepad
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, I switch to VSCode all the time. That was my understanding of what he wanted, though I could be totally off-base.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anyway, I found a forum thread with Nick defending the existence of the New Window menu option, so I won't try to remove it from the executable. Just know for the future I guess that I don't think it's a good idea and that it doesn't work well here.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not working well here is an understatement. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I mean...
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so it would probably work fine without the main layout plugin
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: and it's possible that I could fix the layout for the specific scenario
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: even likely
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I don't think it's worth it to do so though.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the issue is that the window resize events from the OS come through....uh...how to put it...very very very stupidly
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so you have to ignore them until they settle when creating new windows. which I do during plugin startup, but not during this
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I have a thread about this on the forum somewhere. maybe I can find it
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=11228
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that's one
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: here's the other one https://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=11952
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: which is a repeat of https://gammon.com.au/forum/?id=11226
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: ... That does seem rather excessive on resize count.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so the problem with other windows is that the GetInfo storage for window metrics only appears to know about the primary window, so if you switch over to the other one suddenly no matter how you resize the window the values for GetInfo(280), GetInfo(261), GetInfo(263), GetInfo(281), GetInfo(262), GetInfo(264) are all just static
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I could try using 249 and 250, but then I'll have to do a bunch of math to subtract other metrics out
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Danj also asked, by the way, if MUSHclient/Aardwolf supports unicode so he can do emojis on Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: pleasesaynopleasesaynopleasesayno
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: aardwolf does not
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Neeper jumps high into the air shouting out, "WOOHOO!"
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: would emojis help attract Gen-Z players???
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient probably doesn't either
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but aardwolf definitely does not
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: aardwolf supports some but not all of Latin1
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: is there a complete chart/list somewhere?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure it's possible to send small y with a dieresis
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: ?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: byte 255 in the latin1 table
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, I just sent Alt+0255. It shows up on command line, but at least with my font, does not show in the window.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It will, however, do i: ï
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if danj wants faces he'll have to do them the old way. ©¿©¬
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But where's the smile?!
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: below the line
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korasca Tech: on the topic of variables and calling them in aliases/triggers, once I've defined one (using 'variables' dialog in GUI), how do I reference it in the alias string?  I looked in online help and I wasn't able to divine out the method.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Greybeard Tech: with @w
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Greybeard Tech: @
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Greybeard Tech: so if your variable is weapon, you call it with @weapon
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Greybeard Tech: make sure expand variable is checked
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: anyone know what the format is for generating plugin ID's? just a 24 character hex string? does it have any guard rails etc
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Neeper, just go to Edit -> Generate Unique ID.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universally_unique_identifier
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Save yourself all the trouble.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: also what crowley said
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korasca Tech: brilliant.  i knew it was simple.  should have done this a long time ago - i've been editing aliases every time i change primary/second weapons - through my entire first tier.  :-\
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korasca Tech: thanks for the help.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh, lol, I used powershell to generate myself a guid and took the first 12 bytes
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: didn't know there was a menu option for it
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers with Tech Bloke Danj about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: mushclient script development question: how do I save/load some configuration that I don't want to hardcode in my plugin?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Elaborate?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can save it to the state files with SetVariable()
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: State files usually
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you want to create a config table, you can do SetVariable("varName", serialize.save("varname"))
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Then you can assert(loadstring(GetVariable("varname"))) ()
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: well, I was thinking this weekend I might have a go at making that Bing plugin I mentioned, just for shits and giggles, but obviously I won't want to hardcode my own API key in there, so I need to provide a way for the user to save their own and for the plugin to load that
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh yeah, definitely save it as a state file.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Yeah So you would have some config command alias where the user provides their API key. Then use Set/GetVariable as Crowley described :)
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah I was gonna do like "bingconfig apikey YOUR_API_KEY_HERE" or something
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, you can have the plugin check for the existence of a variable with GetVariable. If it doesn't exist yet, you can prompt the user to provide an API key that will save to a variable. Once it's been collected, you can do SetVariable("apiKey", apiKey) and it'll save it to the state file.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can do something like this: function OnPluginInstall() if not GetVariable("apiKey") then apiKey = utils.inputbox("What is your API key?", "Query", "", "Courier", 9) SetVariable("apiKey", apiKey) else apiKey = GetVariable("apiKey") end
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Then 'end' for the function. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can even shorten it to this: function OnPluginInstall() if not GetVariable("apiKey") then SetVariable("apiKey", utils.inputbox("What is your API key?", "Query", "")) end apiKey = GetVariable("apiKey") end
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nice, thanks!
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I wrote a plugin that scans your output for plugin tracebacks and outputs the script context: https://i.imgur.com/LcILK6q.png, get it the plugin here: https://sethbling.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/Downloads/Aardwolf/plugins/traceback_context.xml
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: oo
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Sath you absolute legend
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Thank you
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: your aws container is named sethbling?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it is
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: boy that brought back some minecraft youtube memories
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: <-- sethbling
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: you'll want to right click->save as if you open that link in a browser
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: pretty terribad from my limited experience
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: well thatw as mis lol
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Sath: why OnPluginTick?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: is there a reason not to?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: seemed easier than making a timer
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: timer for what?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: checking the output window for changes
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: (also you don't need to use the DoAfterSpecial to reload another plugin. only for a plugin to reload itself.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: that doafterspecial is for the plugin reloading itself
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh, duh, of course
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I've just started looking at it. I guess I don't understand why you're using a timer?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: the plugin regularly checks the output window for new runtime errors, and if it finds one it grabs the scripting context and displays it
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I see
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: there is also a callback for when output is written to the screen if you want
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but now I understand
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: does it get called for things like runtime errors?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: probably? :)
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: what's the callback?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: OnPluginScreendraw
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I'll take a look, thanks
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: there's also OnPluginDrawOutputWindow
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: yeah, OnPluginScreenDraw works
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: weirdly, it runs before the newline is outputted to the window, so Noting anything draws to the same line
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'm trying to find the forum thread that talks about how the display is updated and when the different callbacks happen
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: looks like this now: https://i.imgur.com/37ns3UD.png
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: code is a lot cleaner
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: here's the new version: https://sethbling.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/Downloads/Aardwolf/plugins/traceback_context.xml
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I guess now there'll be an infinite loop if someone how include a line in your script file near the error that looks like a runtime error :P
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I'm gonna call that a "won't fix" :P
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: oh, no there won't cause the line number is prepended
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: now if only I could do something similar for parse errors :P
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: will it do .lua modules also?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: nope
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: but the line numbers in include files are sane
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: fair
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: so you can just go look at the source anyway
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you don't want to just fix mushclient itself so it gives more sane line numbers for plugin errors? :)
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: lua isn't very stringlist (single array not table) friendly huh? :(
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: an array is just a one dimensional table
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: >.>
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: an array is a table with numeric indices
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: sequential numeric indices, I suppose
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: you're right, lua lets you have sparse arrays for cheap
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: i got something like this items = { "apple", "orange", "pear", "banana" }, and i wana print 1 of the items, or add/insert, but print gives whole list, and tprint says not a talbe....
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: how are you calling tprint?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: yo fiend
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: wait
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: actually
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if print shows the list, then it's not a list
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it's a string
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: how is the last character entering a room coded?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: which is why tprint isn't working
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: an array is just disarray without the dis
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Kerith: the problem is definitely not what you think it is with that description. can you post a snippet of the code?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: is that ^ not how you create a list? am i missing something? items = { "apple", "orange", "pear", "banana" }...and how i'm calling tprint tprint(tempkeri)
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: ahh i think it was wear i was defining the array, i had it in 'global' variables section, soon as i moved it to alias where i wanted to use it it works
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that suggests to me that you might be reusing the same variable name in multiple places?
T3/r7/2023-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: shake, just made this, working in a plugin file. if that items{} is in "variable" section, and i try calling it from a plugin, it just hates me, but if i move it inside the alias for decliration it works (tprint)
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the gauges in mushclient (health mana moves tnl etc), is there a way I can change their colour from a script?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you mean the ones in gauges.lua?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: uhh, maybe? they show up at the bottom of my mushclient window
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh those
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I want to be able to change TNL colour dynamically at certain points
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: not in miniwindow?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no, I think they are, it's just a very thin one
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hang on lemme do a screenshot
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: right-click on it. do you get a popup menu?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: https://imgur.com/a/FXPs4lU
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that's one of my plugins
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I was thinking I'd like TNL to change colour at 50% and 25%
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: trying to do a campaign every level
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: and it would be useful to have a visual reminder to turn noexp on
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmm. not many people want anything other than HP to change color
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: if you're using s&d ... and you 100% are... just use xset noexp 400 or so
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I mean, I'm not suggesting it should be like that for everyone, I just wanted to know if it's possible
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh.
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: cool
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: nevermind then
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: does s&d work for gq?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it's one of the uglier plugins, but if you want to add menu options for setting thresholds for mana/moves/exp you can
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'd accept a PR
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: pretty niche desire though so I'd probably never get around to doing it myself
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: mines is stuck on cp list, how do i make it show gq monsters?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no, uhh, athlau has neatly bypassed the need for that
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: thanks though!
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: can I make the enemy bar turn rainbow colors at every (total hp) % 7 == 0?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: how would I do that with that plugin?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj cackles gleefully at 9th Tier Yajan.
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 9th Tier Yajan ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: yajan i can... you... i dunno
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: same man.. same..
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: going to bed
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hmm, anyone know how I would go about adding an additional option for timestamp format for the Communication Log miniwindow in mushclient?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: right click think you can fix it in a bunch of ways there
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah the option I want isn't on that list
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: which is why I was wondering how I can add things to that
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Submit requests to Fiendish on what options you would like added.
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj nods at (Aleister) Crowley.
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish also will take pull requests if you fork and modify things. You'll want to dig into the chat capture plugin, though, and learn how to change it there.
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I think searching for 'timestamp' will help.
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Actually, search for date_format.
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Once you find date_format, you'll see how the menu is structured and how you can add more date_format options.
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: found it, I've submitted a feature request on fiendish's github
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: so this is not an Aard question - but my laptop keyboard seems to be failing key by key
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: like only specific keys keep failing. Does this mean I have water in there or something? is this even a thing? it feels like a fever dream right now
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cilmarill Tech: but if one of the alphbet keys fail, then my laptop is done
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightness Jasnah Tech: I've seen that happen with water. are they failing quickly? have you restarted since it started?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: if it has usb ports you can use a usb keyboard until getting it fixed
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I'm trying to make a fractal plugin. Can someone explain why this reg expression isn't working?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: ^\*\*\*       The weave is calm again.       \*\*\*$
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: to match on: 
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: ***       The weave is calm again.       ***
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: I'd simplify it and just drop the stars
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: nod, good point
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: don't need the exact line
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: In theory, someone could be malicious and trigger it on purpose. But...wait, actually, human players could still manually emit stars
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i wouldn't recommend dropping anchors..
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: why not red?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: How would you do it?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: could misfire?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: yeah, dropping anchors makes me nervous in general, haha
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Hmm how
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I guess someone could say it on a channel
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: it'll fire if someone else asks about "The weave is calm again."
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: *** The Weave is calm again ***
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: See? anchors don't help
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: now, making the plugin only trigger while inside the fractal zone? that'd be the play
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the regexp you put should work btw
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: anchors tie it to the beginning of the line so it can't be triggered by channels or something else
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it wouldn't fire with the ^ and $ anchors
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I will include an alias to turn the plugin on and off
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: because you have "Dolvos Tech" in its which would not match
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: yeah, i follow what you mean by anchors now
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: are you sure you have regexp ticked on?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: how do I check if I do?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: it's just the checkbox
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: nodnod
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: works now, thanks
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: https://regex101.com/r/zpb4a3/1 yeah i got it working here
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: oops, too late
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: How do you make a table listing the commands of the plugin?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: When you type "fractal help" or whatever
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: so far, it looks like by hand
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: nod
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: all the help strings i've seen are hardcoded
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: yeah, hardcoded
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: in theory, you could...create tables that contain docstrings+functions, and iterate over a table containing those, and dynamically build your help output
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: probably not worth the effort
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: can you reset somehow your mapper?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Methuselah Zensch Tech: my big map is not working :(
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: reload plugin for it?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you do not reset your mapper
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: one does not simply reload their mapper
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: bigmapper is different plugin and you can just reset it
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: plugin lookin' good
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radrat Tech: anyone using docker ?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: in a few ways, sure
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radrat Tech: when i create a new container, if i used single quotes around stuff it creates the container and starts it for like 2/3 seconds and then stops running - when i use double quotes i have not issues just wondering if anyone knows why ?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: when you say single quotes do you mean ' or `
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Aurelia Tech: hello best people of mush, how do I change my world name?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: did you try deleting your world file?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: jokes on you, I'm the worst people of mush
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Aurelia Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: please don't do that
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: what do you mean "world name"
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Aurelia Tech: too late
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}9th Tier Yajan Tech: like Aurelia?
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Aurelia Tech: no
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Aurelia Tech: somehow it got renamed to "drop 1 coin" and so it's messing up some plugins
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Aurelia Tech: i have to get it back to being named aardwolf, but I don't even know how it got to be named drop 1 coin
T3/r7/2023-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yarn Queen Aurelia Tech: wait! fixed it!
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: plugins are sending gmcp commands as regular mud commands.. how do i fix this?
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it seems that with utils.compress/decompress, compressed data doesn't survive the round trip through a MUSH variable. Anyone have any success compressing data for MUSH variables?
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sephi Tech: what file holds the windows' info? size, position, etc..
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: How to turn off Epics talk in main window in Mushclient, but not in communication log?
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: you can turn any channel off temperarily if you like?
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Girthy Redwood Tech: just type the channel name
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: chatter has to hit your main window to show up in the com log
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: I know but only epics go to my main game windo in MUSHClient
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: channel *off 30 for example will just silence it for 30 minutes
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Girthy Redwood Tech: same
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: might be able to set a gag trigger for the main window.  not sure if that would also gag the comms window.
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: I think it would..
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: but I'm not a good source on that.
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: mmm.  i suppose you could set the priority of the gag trigger so it fires _after_ the comm-window plugin... no idea how, tho.
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hugotski Tech: It's only Epics talk which show up in main window also. Everything else goes to communication log window
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: There's an option in MUSH - "Echo to main window settings"?
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: Still half asleep, not sure if that's the solution for you ;p
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: then it sounds like you already have a plugin that's gagging channels from the main window
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: default behavior is to display them in main win AND preserve them in commlog
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: is there an idiotproof (i.e., me ) way to OCR import PDF text with some layout preferences? lots of haikus (1 line each) but then there's the three authors as line four in each, i'd like to be able to search by name of collaborators, even if they're not all in order? 
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cannot you just extract text from PDF ?
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: well i can copy paste, but if i want to group every fourth line by asterik delimeter, but not necessarily in order?
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: i'll do it analog style like a chump as always
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but you wanted to OCR?  = optical character recognition  which is: convert image to text
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so if you can copy-paste then you do not need to OCR it
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: c/pasting from the pdf isnt working , groups the whole row (which is two haiku, 3 authors each) together as one
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: anyone know why Wayfarer's Caravan is unknown to snd
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: is it one of those rooms that cant be mapped?
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it got renamed and that's prob breaking things if you haven't ever fixed it
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: it changed name (relativelY 0recently, that might be it
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: how do i fix it anssett?!
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: xset areas index
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: run to caravan (not xrt), then xset mark
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: runto caravan, mapper purge the room, leave and re-enter also works i think
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: any of those should work ^
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett p
T3/r7/2023-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: snd target still red :(
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: https://i.imgur.com/7t3Hm7R.png something seems off, dinv isn't eliding invdata tags the way i'm assuming it should. 
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: any mush pro around
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: nope
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: ok Athlau u then! i accidentally did someting.. now my output window (where i type) is bolded. the text are bolded as i type
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: input box you mean?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: yes input box
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: alt+0 and change font options?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: not there
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: but thanks for helping! I will try again when fiendish or crowley is awake
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: no idea what you mean not there tbh... can't find font settings there or?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: Fiendish you around?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Did you change the font of your output window, Macbeth?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Game -> Configure -> Commands, check the font there.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, you already checked there.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: i had a big problem the entire afternoon (asian time). but.. i did a restart.. all's good now.. 
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: i cant believe that wasnt my first thought. stupid me
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: what was your first thought?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: "trace back" what i did
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: oh mushclient questions, great
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not for you, Evl!
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: what? why? my questions are the best
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: is there a dark mode for mushclient?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dr. Evl peers intently at 1337 H4x0r Fiendish.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i think he lied about mushclient question time
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: how do i get xrt chantry to work?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The best you can get is changing your own theme, but the application itself does not have a 'dark mode'.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: rt chantry, xset mark when you get there
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You have to initially run there manually.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: there's a cexit in the path so yo umay need to add it
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: i did that anssett
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You need the cexit for sure.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: i forgot the command to show the path
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: echocommand will prob do what you need
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: speedwalks chantry
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: or yeah that would also work haha
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deswrath Tech: thanks crowley!
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i do like dark modes
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what does dark mode mean in this context?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: i guess he meant themes?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: you know, when programs get all emo and start complaining about life and such
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: To me, dark mode would involve changing the toolbars to dark. But that's a Windows thing, and you have to manually change the toolbars, I think, in Windows (or the OS, anyway).
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: yeah its mostly the toolbars that are too cheery
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i do have the dark theme for windows, it doesnt change mushclient though
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: it also doesnt read any vogon poetry to me, so i am dissapointed by windows in general
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient supports XP themes but not Windows 10+ styles
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: ah thatll do it
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: to be fair xp themes are probably still buried somewhere in the mountain of legacy nonsense still in windows
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: remind me how to reset layout (for 100x time, sorry). aard layout reset or something?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: aard help. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: i thought thats what this channel was
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But yes, aard layout reset.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: or aard layout help, anyway.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: think i might have old version of mush hrm
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: resetaard if you have an old version
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Update. :P
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: last time i tried to update mush i lost all my shit and almost quit game :P
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Backup. Then update. You shouldn't lose anything, though.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: don't blame Mush for losing anything but keys
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: updating these days is quite a bit simpler than it used to be
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: any idea why clicking on links to mapped unmapped in chakra is sending me to titan?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: seems to be a weird mapper bug
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroh Tech: manually walk the route, see if you have weird cexits put in.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoyalFlush Kelaire Tech: I wonder if it has anything to do with that note earlier that stated something about that area reusing an old areas room numbers ... or something to that extent (my reading comprehension isn't great some days)
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: That's a different area
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i tried mapper where <roomid in chakra>, and it's telling me to go to titan
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: did you index the area?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: is that the closest way to run for you?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no, it's telling me to go to titan, and say bring me in
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sending me straight to level 3 lol
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what's the reused room id issue?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: That's Chantry
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoyalFlush Kelaire Tech: Chantry...chakra....close enough
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: multiple platforms (LinkedIn, Google, etc) I receive messages that say Traffic was interrupted ("Problem on our end")...is this new error message language for 404? Or should Yosemite Sam visit my computer and router?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] SonnyQuinn Tech: ho do i change xset to autohunt when im in a maze area?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: snd help for all commands
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: xset mode is what you are looking for
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: err
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: xcp mode
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: i forgot the letter code, maybe its xcp mode ah?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: ahh check xhelp xcp mode
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: and just to answer it completely you're looking for 'xcp mode ht'
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] SonnyQuinn Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Busta Rhymes gallantly tips his hat to [DEMON] SonnyQuinn.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: someone get bill gates on the line, we need to be able to rename a file name without closing the word doc
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: im confident this idea can make him rich
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: yeah, every other OS has had concurrent file acess for decades
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: yeah exactly
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Torkin looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: wow. when did it get so hard to find a decent keyboard with a context menu button instead of a FN button >.<
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Cool. I finally completed the plugin that Selitos asked for, which is when you do 'note list' or 'note unread', it hyperlinks the note number so you can click on it to read.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'll have to upload it in the near future, but for now, I get to go home.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I like the implication that selitos is holding you hostage so you can't go home until you've finished their plugin
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ingenue Alison flicks her whip across (Aleister) Crowley's bare back. 
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: oh sweet let us know when its ready  :)
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj cackles gleefully at Ingenue Alison.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, I think I made it smart enough that if you aren't updated enough as far as the snapshots for AardMUSH goes (or if you don't have the appropriate file), it'll unload itself and tell you that you aren't updated.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It does require the "wrapped_captures" file, so...
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly at Ingenue Alison.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Actually, https://raw.githubusercontent.com/AardCrowley/Aardwolf-Scripts/master/HyperlinkNote.xml -- Selitos (anyone, really), you can copy the raw from there and see if it works for you.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And let me know if it breaks anything otherwise.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In the meantime, I'm off to home!
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm. Hyperlinks, despite sending \\\Execute(command), does not actually trigger the alias.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or so it seems.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ooh, now it seems to... work. Interesting.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: any off-the-shelf solution for dumping items to JSON?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Impoved the HyperlinkNote plugin from before. I suggest you upgrade to the one on the tech board, if anyone grabbed the earlier version.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: why would one need a plugin for that :)
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: do enough clan admin crap ath
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: you'll want it
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Selitos had requested a plugin that would hyperlink the note numbers for an easier 'click and read'. So, I accommodated that request. I also threw in my Note Window plugin (well, combined them) so the notes display separately.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: ahh... think i posted him a trigger for same thing a while back
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I may change the hyperlink to be on the subject instead of the number, though. Or maybe both.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Satomi Tech: in SND, instead of clicking on "go", "kk", "nx", etc is there a command we can enter/type instead?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: you could make aliases to do those commands...
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Statue of Servus Tech: i would try typing those commands
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Satomi Tech: oh geez, i had no idea those were actually the commands... thanks
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Statue of Servus Tech: yw
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Satomi Tech: is there a default command for each line of mob targets (instead of clicking on them)?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Statue of Servus Tech: not a mush user but i think nx is next target
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: 'nx' is 'next room' in the room list, not 'next target'. But you can do 'xcp' to target the top target, or 'xcp #' to select a different target.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Satomi Tech: thanks crowley
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Satomi Tech: is there a way to make it so SND can open doors/enter portals? or is there specifically through mapper?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: an example would be mapper cexit open w;;w
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: but yeah, in mapper not snd
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That is a mapper thing, not SnD.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Take a look at 'mapper help exits'. You'll want to utilize mapper cexit (specifically mapper cexit open north;;north, etc
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: )
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Satomi Tech: but if a target is through a portal, SnD wouldnt be able to run to it?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Girthy Redwood Tech: it will use portals if you have them setup in mapper
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: SnD determines where to go and the mapper determines how to get there
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: it's all done through the mapper, snd doesn't contain the info.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: the mapper would  mapper cexit enter thatthingrighthere
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: SnD makes no movements. It merely provides the list of rooms that you can move to, which uses mapper commands.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Satomi Tech: ahhh got it, i'll check out the cexit - thanks
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: crowley: why isn't your note window resizable?
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: also why doesn't it use a monospace font? lol
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, I forgot, not everyone has Bitstream (which is mono).
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And I suppose I could make it resizable.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Changed font back to default Dina. And now it's resizable.
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, if you ever feel like including it into a future snapshot, don't hesitate to do so. :)
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: "MAPPER ERROR: DATABASE TABLE IS LOCKED. Retrying 10X just in case: `PRAGMA wal_checkpoint(FULL)
T3/r7/2023-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: restart mush
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I think if you're going to use a default font, maybe use what the user has set as their output font?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: a locked database is bad and means that something else is misbehaving
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: yeah a restart "fixed" it but that's the first time i've ever seen that messge. seemed concerning
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it's definitely not supposed to happen
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: anyone try the note window plugin and get it to work?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] SonnyQuinn Tech: no im getting there
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] SonnyQuinn Tech: lol im new to all plugins and my god there are alot on mush
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] SonnyQuinn Tech: lol im new to all plugins and my god there are alot on mush
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: I mean the one that was posted earlier by crowley on tech
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: I just installed it and when I type note or anything note related it crashes, was so lookingforward to it 
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] SonnyQuinn Tech: i installed just havnt set it up yet
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] SonnyQuinn Tech: the inviter...how do i set that up
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Saraid: I wonder if the crash is related to the version you are on. I tried to do a version check to make sure you can even run it, but I couldn't test it because I have the latest version. What message appears when you try to run it?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: what does +100 -100 mean for s&d?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: haven't noticed that with snd, where are you seeing it?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's the noexp counter. If you want to not level before taking a campaign for that level, SnD will turn noexp on once you reach that number.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Bronnie: It's on the GUI window.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, on mine, it's the up arrow, anyway.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But you hover over it, it says 'left click +100, right click -100'
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Anyway, time to finish getting ready for work, including making my coffee, whee.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] SonnyQuinn Tech: screenreader how do i toggle that off?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: or just type xset noexp "amount" like crowley has written. No need for pretty things
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: How do you toggle the screeneader off? 
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] SonnyQuinn Tech: which i love it being on here because my brother is going to be excited he is completely blind
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not sure how to toggle the screenreader stuff. I should learn how to do that some day.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just to help others.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Anyway, coffee is ready, and I get to leave soon.  Later!
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[DEMON] SonnyQuinn Tech: lmao to turn screen reader off its literally just (sapi off)
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That was simple, then.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: how do you fix the font on that 
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: these four lines: https://github.com/AardCrowley/Aardwolf-Scripts/blob/master/NoteExtender/NoteExtender.xml#L98-L101
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Did you get it working from your earlier crash, Kharpern?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: updated mush and it works but the font is butt ugly :P 
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's Dina for you! (Unless you didn't update the plugin after last night).
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: should set the default to the configured output font
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: just updated it
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I will add a font-picker though, soon enough.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm, I'll have to look for that option then.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/blob/MUSHclient/MUSHclient/worlds/plugins/aard_ingame_help_window.xml#L294-L295
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: doesn't work on the not updated mush though *goes and updates*
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, Fiendish, to make my life easier, what variable would I use for the snapshot version? Right now, I have a hack of "if wrapped_captures file exists, check if untagged_output is a function", and I'd rather just do: if tonumber(snapshot) > 2165 (or whatever)"
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: imms will need at least r2252 for this to work
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: because the imm echo command works differently
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: whoa, there are special mush versions for imms? 
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Not special mush versions.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just updated plugin information to work with Imm commands.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: wait what's new for imms? :P
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if you just want the version number, use   extras = require "aard_lua_extras"  print(extras.PackageVersion())
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: "upgrade mush level to 204" should be an easter egg command
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, cool. I'll do that then. Thanks, Fiendish.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: kharpern: just a few things that require the echo command to work
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: nah you don't get anything special at 204 
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: like this
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: and mapper runs
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: ahh ok good 
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: good thing I upgraded then :) I rarely upgrade since there isn't a lot that I change on this window
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, I've changed the plugin to use the snapshot version to compare (and checks player level as well). I've also changed it to use the user's default font. Thanks for the suggestions.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If your snapshot version is less than 2245 or if it's less than 2252 and you are level 202+, it'll fail and hopefully uninstall itself.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: thanks for the update on the note window it's awesome
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley beams with pride.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Glad it hasn't blown anyone's system up (yet).
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: oh been messing with it all day :P just needed to upgrade first then the font was weird now it's just right
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: once you are use to reading one sort of font it's hard to switch it
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I agree.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But now it'll use whatever you have in your output font (though if you change it, you'll probably need to reload the plugin).
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: thanks :) I am using the same font I used in zmud just never could change from that, tried many just never worked
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: never worked for my reading that is
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So long as you aren't using Comic Sans. I'd have to put in special code to slay yourself if you did.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: ahahha hahhaha
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: no nothing that gross
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I use a variant of comic sans
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: just courier 
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: really tried all sorts of fonts never had the right feel 
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you need to use GetOption not GetAlphaOption for the font height
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: \\\print(GetOption("output_font_height"), GetAlphaOption("output_font_height"))
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you're currently passing nil for the size
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, dang.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's rather inconsistent on Nick's part... AlphaOption for name, but Option for height?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: alpha for strings, option for numbers
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ah, okay, that makes sense.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, just fixed that one.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: How do I save the main window output to a file, I think it is in MudBin?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You could use MudBin's page to save it like a pastebin, but as far as saving the main output, you'll want to log session.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you're only doing a snippet, though, just copy, Ctrl+D if you want to save colors, and paste.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: I know how to highlight and Ctrl+D, but not sure where to paste it in for viewing later
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: I am trying to log the Aion2 battles, to see exactly how I messed up so I can learn from the experience.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: So having it look like it does in the main window, would be best.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Then use MudBin. I think there's even a plugin for it.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: I use a black background as well.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: http://mb.aardwolfboot.com/
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: why not enable logging and log in html+color?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Ok  Thank you   I'll see if I can figure it out.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Not sure how to
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: alt enter - > logging
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: That would be great also
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Ok  I see that window  Do I paste the Ctrl+D into the preamble window?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: don't think you need to put anything into it
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mine is blank
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just click the html + color, and choose your filename
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Ok  I see a location to automatically save it to a file
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i put my file as %E/logs/%Y-%m-%d.txt
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: maybe it has to be html if you want color
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: then use ctrl shift j to start logging
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: That sounds like it will be hugely helpful.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Ok, digging deeper. Will see if it comes together for me. 
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Ctrl+J to start logging, what to stop?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: and to save, if that is required.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: I tested it, after hitting Crtl+J, but the text file was blank.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ctrl shift j i think? probably toggles, not clear
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: try a html file if you are logging in html
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Forgot the Shift   Trying again.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Not sure how to save a file as .html, other than manually change the .txt to .html
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yeah, that?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: It says there are 54k lines  How do I select from where I am now, moving forward?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: This has a ton of promise. Just trying to make sure I know how to do it correctly.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stroh Tech: mv file.txt file.html      or on windows in a command prompt ren file.txt file.html
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: when you log, it logs incoming new text
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not a copy of what you already had
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: It says Log Session, Include 55185 lines from screen buffer in log file.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: That is in the top of the window that pops open with hitting Ctrl+Shift+J
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: right i guess then you just have to save it to a file
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: then open that file?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Maybe I could clear the output window before starting, then hit C+S+J afterward and capture all of that???
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Then open the file from File Manager to view it later.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you should be able to view the file even while your session is running
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just open it in a web browser assuming it's html?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Exactly
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't log with colors but i can't imagine it should be too different
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: I don't think so either, but it should just be a click of the button Colours, and it will help me from getting a severe migraine headache. *nod self
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: How do I clear the output screen buffer, without closing the client?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ctrl shift c
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: clear didn't work
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: That works, but the output is all one 1 line, and it has a white background. Getting close
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: open it in a browser?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: maybe you need to enable standard html pre amble / postamble, maybe it needs html tags
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Yes, tried Edge and Chrome
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: Will try that also
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ASonOfGod Bezaleel Tech: That nailed it. Perfect!!!   Thank you much, greatly appreciated!
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh, crowley, I know it's extra work, but you can eliminate capturing unrelated lines with untagged_output by discarding everything at the start and end of the capture that isn't the note frame
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: only takes prefiltering the lines in addToWindow before calling add_text
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm, might be doable looking for ~... I can search for the first instance of ~~~~~ for the note, ignore the instance of table index + 5 for the second ~~~~, and look for the last ~~~~ in the note to signify end.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The problem with that will be if someone has noprefix on and someone uses ~~~~~ as a line separator.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: don't scan through. just remove from the front and from the back
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: there's no reason to count them
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: remove any lines before the first. remove any lines after the last.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm. Then... would I simply do a for loop from the back, so for i = #lines, 1, -1 do  if text="~~~~..." break end -- while storing 'i' location to use in the table?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (For the last, I mean. Front is straightforward).
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you can iterate backwards yes
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay. I can work with that. I am trying to think of any cleaner way to do that, but that should work, regardless.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: while true if the first line is ~~~~~ break else delete the first line end  and then again for last line
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: technically should do while true and #lines > 0
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: side note re the thread on that issue, something wacky is going on if you get a 3 second delay processing barely 100 lines
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: try replacing your \n with \r\n
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: maybe wine handles solo \n differently than windows does
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, not sure what it could be. I tested on a note of 100 colored lines, and no issue there... but it literally takes a couple seconds to produce the output.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Sent 'friend ago', 2-3 seconds later, did the output from '\r\n'.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mine takes exactly as long as it takes to do the friend ago command on its own
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: ahh when you type note from person it doesn't do hyperlinks
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's definitely something with the script portion of it. I just changed it to 'tprint(v)', and it still had the lag. 
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Saraid: Ooh, I forgot to add that!
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I need to add subj/from, too.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And note to.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'll have to try the friend ago stuff on a fresh client. I don't have any triggers firing on friend ago, no plugins... but the table output is delayed when it shouldn't be since that should be instant processing from the script level.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: just as an experiment, add a call to Repaint() at the end
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Added Repaint(), same result. Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ok remove it
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if it had worked then that would be something, but since it doesn't it sounds like you have a lot of debugging to do
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's weird that the only place it happens is on friend ago.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if you enable echocommands and run the version of your test without omit, do you see the commands going through at the right time?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If I use 'friend online', it does it immediately, so there's that.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: maybe friend ago is throttled for non-imms?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: no, it's fast for me
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But that would not prevent the Simulate output from showing immediately, I would imagine. 
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: that's true
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: but the simulate will only happen after the final trigger match
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: so maybe the last echo is massively delayed
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: nothing in the world should make poking at 100 lines of text take several seconds
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh, weird thought...
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you don't have smooth scrolling enabled do you?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Let me check... I probably do.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, no. Smoother and very smoother are both unticked.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: definitely do not enable very smooth, lol
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I think I need to update the splitscreen scrollback plugin to be aware of those settings, because holy smokes do they crawl
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: main output layout too probably
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hm...actually might not be anything I can do to save those settings. they're just crazy slow. should just disable them.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: I made the mistake of turning them on once. They're good if you want your mudding experience to be like slow smooth molasses.  Guessing they are more workable for MUSHes where people are posing like once a minute vs combat spam here
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I think they used to be less spectacularly bad before miniwindows
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but they are completely unusable now
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Start time from 'friend ago': 1678213091. Start time printing the table: 1678213094. Difference: 3 seconds. End time after printing table: 1678213099. Difference: 5 seconds. Total of 8 seconds from sending command to ending the table print. Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that is absolutely nuts
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yet I have nothing that I can see that should affect friend ago at all.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Last one was 4 seconds from command to print start. I'll try it on vanilla when I get home.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: my times using utils.timer() are 2421363.9694021 and 2421364.0306222
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so like 0.06 seconds
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So insane.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: even if I count the entire time between hitting enter and the final result, it's still only half a second
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that includes the command round trip
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: on the upside, if you figure out what's going on it will probably be important and interesting
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Most assuredly.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: fiendish,  i cant figure out why some names are yellow and some are red in the group monitor plugin
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: alignment?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: their hp %?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: oh yeah prob align
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: oh it is alignment
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: mysterly solved
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, some bad news. I still get the lag on a fresh copy of MUSHclient, on a different system. Using utils.timer() this time: 1518263.8512671 from issuing command. 1518267.8317614 -- start of printing the table. 1518272.6962838 -- end of printing the table values. So, 4 seconds, then 5 seconds. No other plugins installed except stock AardMUSH.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: does it happen for anyone else?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: is it easy to test and see?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: \\\require "wrapped_captures" require "aardwolf_colors" print(utils.timer()) function my_callback(lines, startline, endline) for _,v in ipairs(lines) do Simulate(stylesToANSI(v) .. "\r\n") end print(utils.timer()) end Capture.untagged_output("friend ago", true, false, true, my_callback, false)
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: actually let me make that simpler to evaluate
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: \\\require "wrapped_captures" require "aardwolf_colors" start_time = utils.timer() function my_callback(lines, startline, endline) for _,v in ipairs(lines) do Simulate(stylesToANSI(v) .. "\r\n") end print(utils.timer() - start_time) end Capture.untagged_output("friend ago", true, false, true, my_callback, false)
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: paste that into your input bar
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: 3.5211380999535
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: wow
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that's crazy
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: \\\require "wrapped_captures" require "aardwolf_colors" start_time = utils.timer() function my_callback(lines, startline, endline) for _,v in ipairs(lines) do Simulate(stylesToANSI(v) .. "\r\n") end print(utils.timer() - start_time) end Capture.untagged_output("friend ago", true, false, true, my_callback, false)
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oops
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I get 0.5
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: very consistently
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I guess I only have 86 friends though
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: maybe something happens
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: i only have 77
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: will it speed up if i get more friends?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: shouldn't
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it should just already not be that slow
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'll try those now, hold on. Just got back from swabbing last patient.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, on my primary system: 3.94 seconds.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: brutal
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: oh i downloaded a vanilla mushclient the other day i could see if it's the same
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: h
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: oh
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: On my vanilla, 3.67 seconds.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: weirdly I get the same over here now
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: was a bunch of lag added to mortal echo recently?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: doesn't seem like it
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, finally turned echocommands on. "You entered: echo {End Capture 1}" -- shows up after the display.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: yeah, I'm seeing that too
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: but only here
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, this is strange... at least for me: echo Testing;friend ago;echo testing -- It goes out of order. It sends 'echo Testing', 'echo testing', and then friend ago.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, wait...
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: uh
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: implausible
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: yup it was 3.42 on there as well
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: this is actually a problem with the friend ago command, lol
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: friend ago adds a bunch of lag _after_ the command
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, that echo was MY fault... because I forgot I do have an alias of 'echo' for something else. Not sure why I have it. Regardless, turned it off, and still 3.99 for the time.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: which I guess doesn't happen for imms
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: try just sending friend ago;look
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Strange, then, that it would only happen on 'friend ago' and not 'friend online' or 'friend laston'.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, that took a few seconds.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But friend laston;look -- instant.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, it really IS friend ago and lag.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: so this explains the difference you're seeing between tagged/untagged, since for untagged the closing tag is blocked
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: yikes
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, you were right - once we find out what it was, it would be something interesting.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: well, ok, I mean, I was hoping to not do that thing you asked for, but maybe now I will
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: who added the lag to friend ago
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, in the case of 'friend ago', it probably wouldn't matter considering that there is a variation on the number of lines.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: is the real question
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IAC DO Overthought Tech: YOU DID
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: NO YOU
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I guess we can find out if it's intentional or not.
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: thanks crowley for the new plugin, makes going back and rereading posts very easy  :)
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: anybody know Splunk really well that I can ask a question?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: if anyone is taking crazy plugin ideas, a plugin that created a miniwindow that has your inventory in a tree list (with expandable) containers and either hover or sub-miniwindow identify panes would be really cool wouldn't it? :P could read/expand upon the data from dinv or other inv plugins
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: my wishlist starts with dumping inventory to json for processing by external tools
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coomie Tech: What's the command to remove a mapper portal?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adara Tech: mapper delete portal #index (check mapper help portals)
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: any sql query gods here
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: no gods, no kings, no masters
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: but shoot your shot, king
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: i've dropped a few tables in production in my time
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: hit em with the ol `delete from user
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: trying to find the cheapest way to do multiple counts in the same query
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: while grouping them
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: be super cool if mapper where with no argument showed the speedwalk to ur last goto room
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: can we have a browser plugin for mushclient?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: gaballon: I need more explanation
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: aoric: browser plugin? to do what?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: like if i mapper goto 99999 but get stopped by agro mobs on the way
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: can't you mapper resume?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: mapper where to see the remaining steps
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: see them not walk them
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: I think the issue is more "I need to debug why my mapper routes aren't working"
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: gaballon: why see and not walk?
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: Being able to "dry-run" a path so you can see if there are missing cexits or something
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: if im in combat
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: I've had the same thought
T3/r7/2023-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: sure. I see no reason why not 
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ok, it will be so in the next release
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: thankd
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Aoric: ?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you asked a question but I need clarification
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh. he's linkdead
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I wonder if he meant, "Be able to visit a link through a window in MUSHclient rather than switching to a browser."
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: people need to stop wanting mushclient to do things that other programs are just better at
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Which I suppose is possible, in a basic way.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at 1337 H4x0r Fiendish.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: minecraft plugin when
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: is this a bad time to ask for a mushclient-based turbotax alternative
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish already has a Tetris plugin.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it's so old though
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: original soviet old?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: good morning! Playing with plugins for the first time and I'm seeing a run-time error "\MUSHclient\lua\gmcphelper.lua:101: No gmcpdata variable set. stack traceback: [C]: in function 'assert'". Pulled the syntax from Fiendish's wiki and I also validated it with some existing plugins (written by others) that pull gmcp. Any thoughts what's going wrong?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What exactly are you attempting to do?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: pull the players current practices. 
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And how are you trying to pull the information?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: worded it (abbreviated) like "function OnPluginBoradcoast (...) if (text == "char.worth") then res, gmcparg = CallPlugin("longstring","gmcpval","char.worth"). Then copy /  paste what Fiendish has for the luastmt and assert lines.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: then I try to call the data in a separate function "local current_pracs = tonumber(gmcpval("pracs"))
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: if it's in a separate function i'm assuming there's some var scoping problems
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, get rid of that CallPlugin stuff... It's easier to do: require 'gmcphelper' and return gmcp("char.worth")
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, function OnPluginBroadcast (...) if (text == "char.worth") then gmcparg = gmcp("char.worth")
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: still requires "luastmt = "gmcpdata = " .. gmcparg   assert (loadstring (luastmt or "")) ()" correct?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: gmcparg will become the table.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: so then to call the data just "tonumber(gmcparg("pracs"))" ?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: gmcparg.pracs, i think
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So you would be able to do gmcparg.pracs if you wanted.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Though you could stand to change it to: worth = gmcp("char.worth") then do worth.pracs. But that's just naming conventions for me. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Of course, all of this depends on how updated you are. If you're still on 18xx, then it probably won't work since gmcphelper was introduced later.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: hmmm new error this time, but related :P saying gmcparg is nil for me and can't index
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: it's short now, reads: function OnPluginBroadcast (msg, id, name, text) if (text == "char.worth") then gmcparg = gmcp("char.worth") end end
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i think you do still have to test for the plugin id, otherwise it'll fire on any plugin broadcast
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: and i think i see my error now i type it out. . . never called the plugin
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, you still have to verify the plugin id, so: if (id == "3jsaljasjdfhauweljwhatever") then if (text == "char.worth") then gmcparg = gmcp("char.worth") end end
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: still null. At the top of my <script> section I've put "require "gmcphelper"", I know gmcphelper is enabled. What could be missing I wonder
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: basically have: require "gmcphelper" function OnPluginBroadcast (msg, id, name, text) if (id == '3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264') then if (text == "char.worth") then gmcparg = gmcp("char.worth") end end end
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: error is run-time error "attempt to index global 'gmcparg' (a nil value)"
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: wait should I declare it as a local value first?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: ok, progress! I just declared gmcparg = {} at the top of the script and it's now giving me other errors. Gonna keep noodling, but this has been really helpful. Thank you!
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how do you know that's the right track
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What errors are you getting now?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: well I inserted a wait but haven't looked into that deeply. I have "require "wait"" at the top and later call "wait(0.5)" and it's saying "34: attempt to call global 'wait' (a table value)" 
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, yes. You are using wait incorrectly.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you want to do a command after a certain amount of time, use DoAfter, or DoAfterSpecial.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But why are you waiting 1/2 a second?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: sending a practice command to the mud and continuing if the user has more than 10 pracs left & if their current practices < what they had before (simplying any checks for "There's no one here that can train you" or whatever). Waiting 0.5 seconds seemed like a simple way to let the previous practice command execute before recalculating those values
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But the pracs would update when the plugin broadcast the information, so you can just store it and check it each time. 'if lastpracs > gmcp("char.worth.pracs") then It's changed, do this code end'
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: ok ok this is still helpful. I need some more troubleshooting, though. My original version just had it cycle through every skill it got from slist that was between 1 & 94 % practiced, and that worked fine. But it was crazy inefficient. Now I'm just trying to add a check that the player still has more than 10 practices but it's starting to crash my client
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: New update to the NoteExtender that added some missing parts.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Does setting the level on mapper portal account for tiers or does it use actual level?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: just set the level of portal
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: mapper portal will factor tier for you
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so if you wanted a portal to be SH only
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Macbeth.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you wanted it to be SH only, you would need to set it to 291, or whatever your tier is.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thanks folks
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: crowley explained it better!
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I did no such thing. I just answered his other question.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You did all the explanation.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Hey, having some issues still pulling practice data from gmcp. Here's roughly what I've got: "gmcparg = {} function OnPluginBroadcast (msg, id, name, text if (id == 'long_string') then if (text == "char.worth") then gmcparg = gmcp("char.worth") end end end     Function Practice local current_pracs = tonumber(gmcparg.pracs) if not current_pracs then Note "No practices" return end." This is breaking out with "No practices", so I'm not aggregating it correctly. Any thoughts?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Maybe it's better if you actually put your stuff in a pastebin or somewhere similar, because looking at that, there are a half dozen errors (it feels like), and in order to properly help, we need to see what you actually have versus what you either have typed out or erroneously pasted.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, so... stupid bugs in the last time I said NoteExtender was updated. But it is, for real now, and hopefully no bugs. *shifty*
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: with themed_miniwins, is there a way to create links that execute commands, similar to Hyperlink?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: here is something weird that might be amusing! https://imgur.com/a/bPWrAY2
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Great idea Crowley, thank you. Here's what I've got: https://pastebin.com/7g8ftJXG. Again, just having issues grabbing the gcmp data right now. First plugin I've attempted but looked over Fiendish's wiki and some plugins others wrote, not entirely clear what's going wrong.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Tipro: You have local gmcparg = "0", but you then follow it up with requesting gmcparg.pracs. You can't do that because what it's trying to do is "0".pracs, which just doesn't work
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you delete that line, then it should go an extra step to fixing your script.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: ok hrmmm. Pretty sure I stole that idea from SND lol. for current_character_state. Anyways, should it be "local gmcparg = {}"? I had that preivously and was getting the same
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Guinness... that... I understand your name is a beer, but your MUSHclient (especially the commlog) shouldn't be drinking you to produce that output.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No, because you're clearing out the already-established gmcparg. You don't need to redefine gmcparg at that point.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: ahem, guinness is a stout sir
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: stout beer
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Still beer.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guinness Tech: yeah makes me wonder what else is messed up like this that i don't know about lol
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Guinness.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Guinness: oh no
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Sath: yes but I'll need more context
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: like maybe a config option in miniwin: Option A [On] [Off]
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: where [On] and [Off] are hotspots that Execute "option a on" and "option a off"
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Could you do that with add_button and keeping the style transparent?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: how would I know where to put the button?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: ok, cleaned it up in a couple ways (https://pastebin.com/7g8ftJXG) but still getting the old error "[string "Plugin: Practice_All"]:21: attempt to index global 'gmcparg' (a nil value)". Defining local gmcparg = {} or "0" had resolved this, but caused other issues.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if you want text, the text window's add_text function takes a third argument for hyperlink details. one sec.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: oh, interesting
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, very interesting indeed. Could that be added to the Wiki?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: maybe
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Tipro: under slist_data = {}, add gmcparg = {} to at least define it. However, until the gmcp data is passed, it will not fill gmcparg with any information. You can do: protocol gmcp sendchar command to force the gmcp info to send, though.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so the way the hyperlinks feature works is that the third argument is a table of tables (one for each link on the line of text) with keys "label", "start", "stop", and "text". Label i
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ugh. ignore that for a minute
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: so the way the hyperlinks feature currently works is that the third argument is a table of tables (one for each link on the line of text) with keys "label", "start", "stop", and "text". Label is what shows in the popup bubble when you mouse over it. Start and stop are the character position on the line where the link starts and stops (so first index, last index), and then text is what gets set to the script engine when you click. I think you must call add_text separately for each line of text. No multiline additions here, because the hyperlink table doesn't specify line number.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I know that's confusing, so here's an example from my helpfile capture plugin...
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: nah, that makes sense
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: {{["text"]="search_msg = nil;notfound_message = build_notfound_message("Contents");Capture.command("help Contents", "^{help}$", "^{/help}$", true, false, true, false, process_response)", ["stop"]=24, ["start"]=17, ["label"]="help Contents"}, {["text"]="search_msg = nil;notfound_message = build_notfound_message("Index");Capture.command("help Index", "^{help}$", "^{/help}$", true, false, true, false, process_response)", ["stop"]=24, ["start"]=17, ["label"]="help Index"}}
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that adds hyperlinks to "help help" output for the related helps line that says Related Helps : Contents, Index.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the hyperlinks themselves then invoke those helps
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: sath: you will likely need to update your client though
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: this was added quite recently
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Tipro: if you're really only looking for the practices number, you can do gmcp("char.worth.pracs") directly. You don't need to get the whole worth table first if you don't plan to use it
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anyway, since Tipro's question started with an exploration of the crappy old way of getting gmcp data, I'll point everyone to my wiki page https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Using-GMCP#gmcp-how-to as the best reference for how to access gmcp data.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: whats the crappy old way?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: CallPlugin("2ljdflkjasf", "gmcpval". ....)
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: loadstring crap
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Whatever the pluginid was, and then going from there.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: oh ok
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: anything referencing "gmcpdata" is old and busted
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish made it SO much easier with gmcphelper and gmcp("field")
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yea the gmcphelper is awesome
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: agree
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: my mapper randomly started using the jewelry box portal to go to recall, instead of aardamulet.  how do i fix that?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Mapper portals. Find the Jewelry box. mapper delete portal #<number of that portal>.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Non-Binary Starky Tech: check your mapper portals list make sure there isn't an incorrect keyword
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: jewelry box is same distance away as aard amulet
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: It works properly otherwise though
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Save yourself the look and type 'mapper portals immhomes'
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: is there way to make it pick the amulet?  it's faster since it's already worn
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm, not sure. Never paid much attention to that.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: make a new portal to use aard amulet then run down
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: that was what it always did until the other day
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: idk how it decides which portal to use if they are the same distance
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it's basically random if they're the same distance
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: strange.  ok thanks =)
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: mapper does not know what you have worn, so it's not going to check and say, "Oh, hey, he has this worn, so we don't need to do anything except run THIS command."
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Running a new plugin that tries to prac a skill, check how many practices the user still has, then prac again if able. https://pastebin.com/7g8ftJXG. Updated the way I pull gmcp data like Fiendish advised, but when I run it I get a bunch of the "Failed" messages I put out as troubleshooting, then the mud crashes. Wondering if it's executing faster than the gmcp data is arriving? What's the best way to handle that?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: client* crashes. Hopefully I haven't actually crashed the mud :P
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Man, no wonder we've all been losing link several times.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley tsks Tasty Tipro.  You feel sorry for him.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tasty Tipro blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: we found the bug and it is tipro? brb i'll grab my pitchfork
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It is probably a recursion issue. If you never terminate it circling back to check something, it'll lock up.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley giggles at Cheesy Anssett's actions.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: why do you need to check GMPC for skills data? i just type skills ans my trigger practices anything from my list I have designated to practice
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Earlier, testing out a script, I did: while endIdx >= 1 do print(endIdx[1]) end -- Well, endIdx will always be greater than 1 if I never decrease its value...
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: if you do it with gmcp you don't have to gag output, and it's probably in an easier-to-lua form already
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Selitos: I check gmcp to see if I have enough practices to keep going. I built the list off slist data (I think you pointed me in that direction) and I got it to cycle through everything between 1 - 94% trained just fine, but playing around to improve it now.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok, i just make sure i have enough oractices betfore i look at my skills list  *shrug*
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: you can use "gmcpdebug 1" to enable gmcp debug output, which will help you nail down the timing of when gmcp data arrives. "gmcpdebug 0" to disable it
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: yeah I'm just playing at this point, but it's been fun trying to learn. I'm so close, just having issues with the gmcp. Maybe the solution, instead of forcing gmcp data to come repeatedly in short succession, is just divide current_pracs by 5 and train that number of spells / skills.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: a heuristic like that will definitely improve the speed
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone here a sql master
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: anyone know if MUSHclient might be able to capture Xterm256 color codes from the output programmatically?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: StylesToColours from aardwolf_colors.lua will convert mushclient style runs to x256 color codes
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: about about the new fancy 256 colors in Bloodlust Dungeon, Sea King's Dominion, etc?
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: like: A crystal pylon stands several spans above your head, glowing faintly.
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: onice!
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you can test it by selecting that text and pressing Ctrl+D and you'll see it picks up the @x code
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Ctrl+D is copy with color codes
T3/r7/2023-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the code for how the Ctrl+D plugin works is in MUSHclient/lua/color_copy.lua
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tearlach Tech: hey does anyone a know a decent amount about wordpress?
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there a way to search cexits by keywords? Like mapper cexit search <keyword> or something.
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: basically it's just mapper cexits and ctrl-f
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you you can narrow it down by mapper cexits here
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: obviously you need to be in the area
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Ugh, I'll do that, then I guess.
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You don't need to be in the area. You can do 'mapper cexits <area name>', too.
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, 'mapper cexits aylor', for example.
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Truthless Areia Tech: Or learn SQL. :P
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: anyone know where I can find a generalised occlusion detection algorithm to check if a line from (x1,y1) to (x2,y2) will occlude any existing already filled boxes on my grid?
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Danj: try this? https://pastebin.com/wCyM5xgH
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harvester Tech: hi, what's the best/easiest way to remove a cexit on mapper?
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, change 'goto continue' to work with 5.1
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Harvester: Go to the room, right-click it on the GMCP map, select 'delete exit' and choose that exit.
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Actually, Danj, I just changed it to not use goto. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harvester Tech: tahnks, crowley
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I wonder if danj's occlusion detection question is for a plugin
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: maybe he just really likes occlusion detection
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: can we match aard output (trigger) based on colors?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: im assuming only basic colors like B G R Y M C? or those @x123 etc also can?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: 256 colors i mean
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that's a good question. one sec
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hm, I believe not
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: anyway how do u match colors?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh, I'm wrong
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the built-in mechanism is very rudimentary and probably not even what you would want
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: we should just ignore that then
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if you need to match on a specific coloring, you need to match all of them and then look for the coloring in your script
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: ahhh icic
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: thanks fiendish. i have some follow up qns. but gg for meeting. will do so tmr morning. thanks again!
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakur Tech: besides manually resizing all windows, is there a way to make Mushclient fill more of it's screen? At the moment there's about 50% grey area...
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You should see my grey area.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But don't think there's a way to do it easily. However, if you often switch resolutions, you can always save the layouts to specific layout names.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So you only need to do it once, then aard layout save whatevername
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: how do i delete my dinv build and build again?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: rerun the analyze create invocation, probably
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: should just need to redo dinv build
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hey is there a plugin to help manage hunger/thirst?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: just set up a trigger to drink when thirsty
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: or buy the nohunger wish
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: buy a decanter of endless water (aarditem)
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: If automating spellups is not considered botting, then technically triggers to drink/eat wouldn't also yes?  So long as you're at the keyboard obviously.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: I ask because I feel like half the mud leaves themselves on AFK through triggers, but as long as you're not gaining XP / killing mobs, its fine yeah?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: I don't see that having a trigger to drink is botting
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: not afk to drink via trigger, no
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: err, not botting
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I guess I'm just a little surprised there's not already a plugin for it
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: you could make one <3
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: does everyone have the nohunger wish or something
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: it's trivially easy to do
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: and give it to me
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: better of just having a trigger that drinks when you see the hungry message, a plugin would be possible but overkill
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: Again, super easy to make a trigger, and a non-issue for most players because of wishes or whatever. 
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: yeah but dont you have to set a variable for your con... well i your container never changes.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: You can make a trigger and wrap it in a plugin, but that doesn't really change anything. 
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: if you are in a clan hunger/thirst are no big deal I just drink from my clan founteibn evertime i do a quest, easy
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: He's out mapping.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: well campaigning actually
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: with the map project I'm not actually creating new maps right now, I'm creating the engine that can display maps
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: to replace the old crufty IE7 thing we have at the moment
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: anyway back to the hunger/thirst topic. how about some hard questions: does anyone know how much the hunger/thirst amount changes over time? is it a fixed rate of decrease? is the rate related to any stats?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: there are skills that effect ti too
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: that's interesting, I didn't know that, what skills?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Not a skill but sustenance
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: help  321
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: hunger/thirst is proabably the least thing to worry about in aard
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: once you have the wish nohunger, never again will it cross your mind
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: wishes are expensive
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Corseth sniffs sadly.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: that kind of thinking is why there isn't a plugin for it
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: because you can use a trigger like I do
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: or an alias like i do, i linked it to my q request, which i prob should remove since im sitting :P
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: do you understand how triggers work
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: if I know the rate at which hunger/thirst decrease down from 100%, then I can set a timer to automatically top up, and if my container is empty when the timer hits, I can have a reminder to go refill, before I end up actually being too hungry/thirsty
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah I know how triggers work, I want to make something more complicated than that
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: in real life, sure, people drink when they're thirsty, but actually for optimal health you're supposed to hydrate every x minutes or whatever
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: no no, just create a trigger that notices when the message that say you are hungry pops up then auto send a drink command
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: my guess is hunger thirst is in GMCP, yu could just check it
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: mate this is a game not real life
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ooh
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: good shout
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj looks in gmcp docs
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: excellent, yes it is
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: Danj, just gonna give you unasked for advice, but it may make more sense to learn how plugins and triggers work prior to re-inventing the mapper wheel
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no I know how plugins and triggers work
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: bottom line is hunger is not that important, only affects regen rates as far as I can tell
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: regen rate is kind of important to me, that's how I ended up noticing it because my mana wasn't regenning
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: it does affect regen quite a bit 
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: okay go create a plugin that makes you eat and drink every 10 minutes, you'll soon get fat
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adamski Tech: don't over think things
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: how can you find 10 heaviest items using dinv ?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You could do something like:  dinv search minweight 40
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: and then adjust the weight up or down
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: tyvm! that is exactly what I need
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Shame that Durel never added a 'dinv search sortby weight asc' option...
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: shame, such shame :(
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoyalFlush Kelaire Tech: If only the author if DINV was still around...and active...and playing...and could take requests like that to enhance it.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't De Cide Tech: If only...
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: Is the syntax to see what gear is already enchanted in your bags, similar/opposite to the one to see what is enchantable?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: The author of dinv is like a mythical unicorn, often discussed, never seen. Maybe one day he will return and save us all... we can dream.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Corseth: are you referring to dinv?  If so, you could do something like "dinv search flag invis" to find items that can be solidified.  You could do the same for the other enchantable flags
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Durel snickers with Orphean about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: Yes, and What do I do if I want to do the opposite.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: Aka, find all my already enchanted equipment
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: so I can separate it from non enchanted bloot
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You could do something like: dinv search flag solidified
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Corseth tosses Durel up in the air, he loves it!
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Or to check all enchantable flags:  dinv search flag solidified || flag illuminated || flag resonated
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: will the same flags work for dinv get and put?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: the "||" means "or" so it would find anything that matches one of those
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: yep!
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: Perfect
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: so you could "dinv put 3.bag flag solidified || flag illuminated || flag resonated"
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: is there a way with dinv filters to do stuff based on wear location? as some of the eq I use has types like treasure or something else instead of just being armor
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: and I'd like to be able to keep armor in one bag, weapons in another
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: yep use the location key
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: dinv help query has a nice list of all available keys
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: wearable head etc works as far as i know
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: neat
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: bah i mean what Korendir said :P But dinv help query is still correct haha
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Basically, if you id an item, any of the fields that show up there can be used in a dinv query.  If the field has a numerical value, you can also use a "min" or "max" prefix on it.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: noice
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: if the field has a space in it, remove the space.  So you could do:  dinv search foundat [some area name]
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj gives a thumbs-up to Durel.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Also, I just saw you wanted to keep armor in one bag.  You can tell dinv a set of queries to assign to particular containers so anything matching those queries are moved to that container.  See "dinv help organize" for examples and details
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yep, already been doing that, that's what I wanted it for
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: once you set up your containers with their queries, you can just "dinv organize" to move stuff where it belongs
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: dinv organize is worth using dinv for even if you use zero other features imo anyway
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: I need to do that
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: I don't have my bags setup with queries
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: woould be nice if "dinv put item" put the item in the right "organized" container
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: You can sort of do that already with "dinv organize [query for one or more items]" to move the items.  You can also "dinv store [query]" to move items back to the container they were most recently in.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: so you could "dinv organize type potion" for example to move all potions to a container flagged for your potions
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: can dinv organize be used with the keyring?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: yes, it uses the keyring by default
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: but I think most people tell dinv to ignore the keyring (see "dinv help ignore")
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: one weird issue I have is if I don't ignore the keyring, then it constantly rescans my keys 
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: idk, scans them every 3 minutes even if i'm standing still, its weird
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: that should be fixed in the recent mud reboot, there was an issue that affected it
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: oh, so I can unignore the keyring again
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: if that was hte issue you had, yes, should rescan the first time, but shouldn't recheck everything the second time
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corseth Tech: basically even if I did a full inventory rebuild confirm, it would still try to rescan my keyring every 3-5 mins
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: when i type mapper areas doom i get a list that includes a keyword 'dundoom'
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: when i type mapper areas dundoom i get nothing
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: i mean it says Found 0 areas containing 0 rooms mapped.
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: it searches by area name not keyword
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: oh
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: ok then, nm
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: try mapper areas dung
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: yup that works, thanks Ath
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: So i bought this MSI Titan Gaming laptop and i tried hooking it up to my tv (like i normally do with all my laptops) and it shows up with a bluescreen of death . saying  DPC WATCHDOG VIOLATION, i used a hdmi cord. so i went to check my device manager and in Other Devices i got a list full of warnings ,(Base System Device, PCI Data Acquisitions and Signal Processing Controller, PCI Device x2, PCI Simple Communications Controller, SM Bus Controller, Unknow Device x2. I have no idea where to find these driver updates. Any help would be greatly appreciated
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: I'm assuming this is windows OS?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: im wary of trying these "download to find and fix" things because this laptop was quite expensive
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: Has Windows 10 home edition
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: if you check device manager, won't windows try looking for a suitable driver?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: have you visited MSI website and looked for updates for your system?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: no, i thought it was something specific. i will try tho Neg,
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peacemaker Negader Tech: when i built my desktop a year ago or so, I got MSI mobo.  It came with a CD with bunch of hardware updates. but the website may have newer updates
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: this is a MSI 18.4" GT83VR TITAN SLI-023
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: Does it matter what Countries website you get your driver updates from, ie. im Canadian. ca.msi.com, instead of msi.com?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Canadian Wonder Tech: Tech is Tech right?
T3/r7/2023-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mischanner Epsilon Tech: Wonder - I wouldn't think there'd be a difference in the sites. Your download speeds are likely to be a bit better from a site in your country though - not that it'd really matter for most stuff.
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: so Skynet is able to create 'polymorphic keyloggers' now? what else is the good news of the day? 
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: oh Mr Crowley
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: what goes on in your head?
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: The latest l33t plugin is out! And my favorite one yet! l33t Room Announcer - set custom announcements or commands when entering a room. Available now through 'lpm'! Link in my finger
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: is it possible to increase font size of my comms window only, without affecting my main window
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ooh, I think I'm going to expand on my NoteExtender plugin by adding a Reply button, too. And make it smart enough to detect if you have my NoteWriter Plugin installed and use that or just do regular note write.
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hey fiendish, did you have anything to do with building the gaardian maps website? I noticed some similarities between the database format and the one the mushclient mapper uses
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: nope
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What in the world am I seeing on Facebook on my computer? "This content is only available on iOS or Android
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: but then shae wouldn't get to use the bracket webpage
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: haha you say that like it's a bad thing.....
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: boy i mischanned that good
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: guess shes not the only one that needs a nap
T3/r7/2023-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: what is the command to enable/disable a group of spells?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hey is it possible to have a duplicate of the group miniwindow in ultracompact mode, that I can configure to show players I'm actually levelling with right now?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: and I want to add a heal button next to their names too
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: I had to completely re-install MUSH - what file/s do I need to copy over to get my old mapper?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the mapper's data is in a .db file I believe?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: dunno if you can just straight up copy it over though
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: seems to have done it!
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: Hadar is your spellup plugin still the best one?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: It works very well imho
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: ta
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Pretty much, it's the best one for sure.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: Crowley's SnD has a clicker for +/-100  But +/-100 what?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: Is more number better?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: thats for the auto noexp setting i beleive
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: Ah!
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: thx
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: 100 means it will set noexp 100 xp before you lvl
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: snd help noexp
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: please check out note 8248 on tech board - new beta gaardian map page is live!
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: are there plugins to help with market bidding? something that turns all the item #s into something that you can click, a mini-win pops out with input for amount proxy checkbox etc? 
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: crowley has one
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Only thing it doesn't capture at this time are the showcase ones.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I may wind up updating that in the near future though since Fiendish has added new functions and whatnot.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: If I wanted to write a dinv query that matched all wearables, what would that look like? It doesn't seem like `wearable` can be used as a simple boolean. I tried `~wearable ""` but I don't think that does what I want.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: dinv search worn
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: That's currently equipped items. I'm looking for any item that's wearable.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Maybe something like:  dinv search type armor || type light || type weapon
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: that would find all of your armor/lights/weapons
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: that's what I've been doing so far. But now, I want to exclude keys. so I have to do type armor ~flag iskey || type light ~flag iskey
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: so i'm trying to condense the query down a bit
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Ah, I think what you were doing is probably the best way even though it is a bit awkward
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: is there a way to use dinv to move all the equipment associated with an analysis into a bag?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: It's what the docs recommend for complex compound queries, but I was hoping my ignorance of dinv's full breadth of query parameters might've made the query more complex than it needed to be.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: No, there isn't a way to flag items in an analysis I'm afraid
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: fudgesicles
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adara Tech: why not ignore keyring, do you have any other keys that are armor items not your keyring?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: Hmm... My SnD crashed when I got my first Chakra-mob, what's the command to fix the areas for it again?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: xset index areas?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: I'll try that and see :)
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: After doing xset index areas, make sure you've already marked the first room.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Alternatively, snd force update beta will also fix it.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: oh Mr Crowley
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: HEY CLERICS! I COULD USE A HEAL!  Dr. Evl has begun to sing.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: I was super excited to try your new plugin note extender
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly at Dr. Evl.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I wonder what you mean by "What goes on in your head" the other day...
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i couldnt get it working :(
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, that was anticlimatic. What doesn't work about it?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i always have ozzy singing in my head when i see your name
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: one sec i will get on the new mushclient and load it and tell you
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Did you save it as a web page, or did you copy and paste into notepad?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: https://pastebin.com/YsniHkfF is the error
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: value is nil
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's a new one to me. Let me see if I can figure it out.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i will see if its only to do with my personal notes maybe i can share normal output
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: doing note list on gquest forum has same issue
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i may have turned off pagination 
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: i'm totally blanking on where to change the font for the main mush viewer
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, I did not take into account pagination.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Tipro: Game -> Configure -> Output.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: yeah im super trandy like that pagination is old news
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Evl, if you turn paging off, does that fix it?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: trendy
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tasty Tipro thanks (Aleister) Crowley heartily.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or do you mean you have paging off? If you have paging off, it should work.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: ah yeah its off
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: see i knew it was trendy
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's weird, then. It seems like it's hanging on the Simulate... but it shouldn't.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Are you comfortable with modifying your plugin by adding a line or two?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: why is it simulating instead of just showing my notes? :)
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: of course
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, above: function hyperlinknotes(lines) (line 117), add: require 'tprint' ... then below the if i < 5..., do: tprint(v)
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: { [1] = { ["text"] = Posts in the Gquest forum :,["style"] = 1,["textcolour"] = 16247016,["backcolour"] = 2960685,["length"] = 27,} ,[2] = { ["text"] = ,["style"] = 0,["textcolour"] = 13158600,["backcolour"] = 2960685,["length"] = 0,} ,} 
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Is that before it errors out?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: yeah, fails on first line
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: its the only one
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: wait, that was my stupid homebrand table print method
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's very strange. It's trying to say that there is no color, but there is a color listed there... 
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: https://pastebin.com/r2DvCssg
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i mean same thing
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Try this. Remove the 'tprint(v)' and instead, place the following: if not type(v.textcolour) == "number" then v.textcolour = 12632256 end if not type(v.backcolour) == "number" then v.backcolour = 0 end -- See if that fixes anything. Please say yes.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: note
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: yes, it didnt work (i said yes tho)
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dr. Evl goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: why does my aardwolf_colours.lua only have one line
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It has one line only?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, now that makes things even weirder. Nowhere else in the plugin uses stylesToANSI... 
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: trying to debug the file but it only has dofile(GetInfo(60).."aardwolf_colors.lua")
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: it works if i comment out stylesToANSI XD
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: its missing a few lines tho
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Evl...
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So...
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I don't know how this was missed, or how no one caught it before, but I did forget to add the aardwolf_colours call to the plugin.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dr. Evl throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, below line 27, add: dofile(GetInfo(60) .. "aardwolf_colours.lua") -- and see if that fixes it. *shifty*
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: .\worlds\plugins\aardwolf_colours.lua: No such file or directory
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: https://media1.giphy.com/media/q7UpJegIZjsk0/giphy.gif
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What do you get when you type 'checkversion'?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: You are using Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: r2261
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Blame Fiendish for inconsistent naming: Change it to: dofile(GetInfo(60)..'aardwolf_colors.lua')
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: in his "defense", he has an faq about why he uses both
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i gave you a bad direction by using the english spelling sorry
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it doesn't *help* much
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: colors not colours
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: no, mushclient is almost exclusively ou
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: gammon is aussie
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: so all the builtin stuff is spelled like that
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: oh, well adding that didn't help :(
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: (which is probably why crowley didn't think twice about it)
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Cheesy Anssett.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley sighs at the sight of Dr. Evl.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What happens when you run it now, Evl?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: same error we began with
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: what does the line actually do?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Are you able to download a fresh copy of the client and test it on a vanilla version?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Evl: It takes the styles, converts them to ANSI format so that Simulate (which prints the line and makes it triggerable) works with colors.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Otherwise, you'd have to iterate through the table, do: ColourTell(RGBColourToName(v.textcolour), RGBColourToName(v.backcolour), v.text) ... 
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And then terminate it after that table was done.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i'm installing a clean version, but also i commented out that if statement and things seem good
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: apart from "Posts in the Personal forum :\\\Execute('note read ')"
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: ok brb on my clean version
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: okay it's something to do with my install
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: I didn't install the right thing
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dr. Evl bursts into tears.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: but something else went wrong :( https://pastebin.com/1KLUPh8c
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: only now i cant read it because my text is so small
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Brb, gotta handle patients and stuff.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: well gee I'm learning all sorts of new stuff today
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers with Tech Bloke Danj about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: just learned about "closures" and how I can use them to bring variables in to one of these temporary functions I have to use with array_filter
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh, hell's donkeys
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley giggles.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: right, that's that issue fixed
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: what can you do if recon isn't updating mapper room flags?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Cry about it and then delete everything you ever loved.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley runs away from Kerith in utter terror and horror!
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: delete the room from mapper?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: It means your mushclient isn't up to date
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: do i need to update SnD to see the new fellchantry area i set a start site but it will not xrt there?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No, you just need to xset index areas and make sure you mark the first room there.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: hrm gives me no start site still
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But updating it will work, too.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: geez i can
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: geez i can't even mapper goto 1125
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley boggles at Selitos.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's a mapper problem, then.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ahh cexit room
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: got it now  :)
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley smiles happily.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I guess I should implement the area list next, to make it easier to check different area maps
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but first, dinner
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: or not as the kitchen is in use
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I have been enlightened today, and have learned of a function I did not know existed. And therefore, the findBoundaries function of NoteExtender is more efficient and allowed me to update the plugin for more consistency.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: what's the function?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go (Aleister) Crowley!!!  Busta Rhymes cheers him on.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: table.move. Silly, but did not know it existed. Had some outside help show me a more efficient way than 'table.remove' to capture only the note itself and not anything else.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: This is the entire function now: function findBoundaries(tbl) local tildeStr = string.rep("~", 79) for indexStart,v in ipairs(tbl) do if v[1].text == tildeStr then for indexEnd = #tbl, 1, -1 do if tbl[indexEnd][1].text == tildeStr then table.move(tbl, indexStart, indexEnd, 1) local len = indexEnd - indexStart + 1 table.move(tbl, #tbl + 1, #tbl*2 - len, len + 1) return tbl end end end end return tbl end
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: neat
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: today I learned about array_filter and closures in PHP
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Seriously, though, the speed is amazing on it now.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: and gained 100x speedup on new map page rendering due to only doing like 4 database calls
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And I see why you were looking for occlusion before. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the old map code uses heuristics (rules of thumb, basically) for that part
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it works, but it makes the code long and difficult to maintain
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I looked at it and I thought there must be a better way
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: and there was
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I love it when things work out like that.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I need to go through some of my old code and see if there are better ways to do things.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Usually is, especially when you learn new processes.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And functions.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faithful Ruhamah Tech: what do i do if the mapper mini window is not refreshing?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: in the new maps, how do you click on the links out of rooms (that show you where the exit leads) on a tablet?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: I used to be able to press on them and the link to the exit would appear.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: click the chain icon?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aberrant Tech: doesn't work on ipad
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: oh, that might be a platform issue.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: Areia how does you plugin work? Should it consider on room entry?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: with areas that have two or more portals, do they share an xset?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: yes only one xset mark per area.  
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: then how do you deal with the other portals?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: well you xset mark the portal you want snd to consider the area start, and the throw all the others into your mapper?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: SND just uses the mapper
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: the mapper just treats portals like cexits, basically
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: it'll consider them when generating a path to your destination
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: or it might work in reverse: it starts at your destination and then fans out, looking for exits that connect etc etc
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: oh good, almost thought I had to go techy to solve the problem.
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thy Friend Yerald S
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thy Friend Yerald :S
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: Just hold the portal in-hand in its destination room while using the mapper commands and you'll be fine, you don't have to do anything beyond that
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: do recommend setting up a good portal alias, so you can simplify the process
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: if you use use dinv Yerald check out dinv help portal 
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: I do... and I've seen it messup
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: it's more consistent if you use ids
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: use ids for everything :P
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: yeah, i only had to learn that lesson once
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: not sure how the dinv sorts the portals... when I add them i use the id number
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: It shouldn't really matter. I like to have a bag just for portals and use dinv organize to make sure they's where they live
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: but dinv gives no craps
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: it'll find them anywhere
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: why does dinv say item does not have a known location?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: do you need to "dinv refresh" or "dinv refresh all"?
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: hmm let me try refresh all, thank you
T3/r7/2023-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: If you don't have dinv autorefresh in the background (I actually don't recommend doing that) then you'll need to refresh manually for dinv to scan new items
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: right now i have one aardbag, if i had multiple bags with different eqsets by level in them, would dinv put/get from the right bag? can it handle multiple containers?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: yes it can
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: wowie zowie!
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Giddorah Tech: My SnD keeps crashing when I get Chakra mobs.. I've run xset index areas but to no avail. Is there another command I need to run to get it added to it?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Giddorah: What do you mean, it keeps crashing?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So too many triggers can slow down MUSH. Do aliases do the same?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Probably not to the extent that triggers can.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But really, a high number of triggers/aliases should still not really be noticeable unless you have thousands.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: At least, well-constructed ones.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: gotta watch out for those O(N!) triggers
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In zMUD, triggers didn't really slow anything down except opening the GUI.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Some people had thousands of zMUD triggers and took 5 minutes to open the GUi.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: any lua gods here
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Depends on what you need.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: okay so I have a string.format(), right
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then in it, I need new lines
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: \n has to be escaped, so we have string.format([asd] asd\\n)
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why does this sometimes return an actual \n in the string, instead of new line
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in 2 different places it returns new line or \n, with the same template (visually)
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you do it from a command line, you don't need to escape the \n. Doing \\n will print \n. If it's a MUSH alias/trigger, I do believe you need to escape it.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mm
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so I have an alias that tests this, the alias is in the plugin, send_to="12"
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: 12 is script I think, maybe not
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It is.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so in it, I have to escape it
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the other place that has issues is in the <script> tag in the plugin
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: are you saying this place should not be escaped ?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In the script tag, it shouldn't be escaped, as far as I know. In the alias, it should be, I believe.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ok that would explain why it's acting weird
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what about \r, do I need that
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: carriage return vs new line
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in addition to \n, I mean
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You don't explicitly need that, but Fiendish has stated to use \n\r (or \r\n, whichever, I forget) if standard methods aren't working.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: For example, on the command line, \\\print(string.format("%s %s %s", "test", "exam\n", "quiz")) -- will break the line after exam. But that works for me without issue. If it doesn't use \r, too.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: this makes sense, apparently it applies to aliases in the plugin too
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: imma keep the carriage return, think it's not needed tho
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at TrEz.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Doesn't hurt, either way.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: thanks, saved me time thinking why this happens
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: so I'm trying out this DINV, it built, but only for 861 items, i have 985 :(
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: do you have bags on ignore? dinv ignore list
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: 0 on ignore
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: it also runs through in multiple passes in some cases.  You may have had the others identified in an earlier pass
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: i just installed it and did the build
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: for example, the first pass may be the things directly in your inventory while subsequent passes will look in your containers
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Oh, I meant that the initial build may run in multiple phases and only the last phase is reported at the end
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: should i try a refresh to see what was missed?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: oh i figured it was done it spit out DINV Refreshing inventory: SUCCESS! (Entire inventory is identified) DINV Build completed (15 minutes, 33 seconds): success
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: you can refresh, but unless you have a lot of invis items with your detects down the first time, I'd be surprised if it found more than the initial build
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: hmmf detects up dinv refresh - nothing found :(
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Yes, I believe it found everything the first time.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: about 120 items not in list, no idea whats' missing/not identified (dinv 861, items 985)
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: the only other way I can think of it not finding items would be if you have items in a bag owned by someone else (e.g., a spouse) because dinv won't look in bags owned by another person
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: nothing carried owned by others :(
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: how are you getting the 861 number?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: DINV Identify (861 / 861):
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: as it identified it itterated through up to 861
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Less than 1000 items? Those are rookies numbers.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: no idea where it came up w/that #
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: yes, and what I'm telling you is that that message is only reporting what was identified on the last phase of the build.  It probably id'ed the others earlier in the build
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: try "dinv search all" and I bet it will report more than 861
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: yup 1043 this time using search all
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: cool :)
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: so doI need to build again? 
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: nope, everything is good and as expected
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: that initial build message is misleading though
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerith agrees!
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: so I understand why you were concerned
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: and ya i saw the #'s changing first id was DINV Identify (1 / 182): , but when it finished it said 861.. so i was like umm mwhats missing lol
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Nod, it just runs through in multiple passes.  For example, it doesn't know what items are containers when you start so it looks in your main inventory in the first pass.  If it sees containers then it does another pass and looks in each of them.  That's why it has multiple phases.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: is there a idiots guide to dinv somewhere? using serach can see <keyword> , but would like to compare like all necks see which is best (but different keywords)
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: "dinv help query" lists all the terms, so eg: "dinv search wearable neck" might eb what you want
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: do "showdesc durel" and follow the link to the docs wiki.  it has walkthrough to show you how to do stuff like that :)
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: but yes, you could do something like "dinv search wearable neck" or "dinv search wearable neck minLevel 100 maxLevel 150" for example
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerith goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: or you could search by any stat or damtype or hr/dr or item effect, flag, etc.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient questions answered here
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: how come when I recon, my map db doesn't get updated, was gona post a note today
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kers Tech: is there a 64 bit version of mush
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: kerith: clarify "updated", Kers: nope
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Kers: I tried doing a 64 bit conversion once, but it's too much work to do it without introducing a ton of new bugs and crashes
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: flags in room doesn't always update, sometimes yes, sometimes no, sometimes just 1 of them
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Kerith: maybe the recon trigger is bad?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: send me your recon output when it doesn't work right
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: vs when it does
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kerith nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: fiendish: whats the best way to apply a bg color to a button using themed miniwins
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you want to alter the color of a themed button?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yea, for example if i wanted to flash the button on mouse down, or if i want one button bg color to change when pressed
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: Why might the sp individual sounds not play? The volume confirm click does (sp vol nn).
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i can draw a filled rectangle where the hotspot is but it looks wonky
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Gaballon: the add_button function takes mousedown/mouseup callbacks and returns the bottom,right corner coordinate of the buttom. I guess I'd use the down/up functions to paint over the contents of the button area using my knowledge of the diagonal shift of the contents when the button is pressed
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Saltmarsh: does spset show any of them disabled?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: do i paint rectangle then redraw button? otherwise the rect covers the button text
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: spset shows the ones I want on 100 the rest off
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: gaballon: I'll have to think about this. It may just be best to add parameters for it
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: afk for a bit
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Saltmarsh: which sounds aren't playing, and do they always not play?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: Crowley, does SnD try to call a save at intervals? Like save its state or the world?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fidenix Tech: Any idea why I'm suddenly unable to click links, like from the ShowMap plugin?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Lord LiamSmythe Tech: i don't know... but when i logged in this morning my mapper commands are all mucked up... sending me to the wrong areas now
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fidenix Tech: Hmm
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: Fidenix is your screen split via scrollback plugin?
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fidenix Tech: It's not, no
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: for a cheap video editing rig, good vendor might be..? straight from manf or a building site? 
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakur Tech: depends on where you are located
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nakur Tech: but depending on how confident you are: labour is expensive. Assemble it yourself
T3/r7/2023-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: usa, have an eGPU ive never figured out how to get working in linux (<-- user error) but i cant edit on a nuc
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: i don't recall android requiring security check to power off a phone before...?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Any suggestions on where to go for aardwolf plugins?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: finger scars
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: These lovely new maps have broken the showmap plugin which is a shame. I love that plugin
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Eh, probably just needs an update to the new links.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: I'll look at forking it this weekend.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neeper Tech: if those are the maps Danj is working on I would wait for the map work to be complete before doing that and just continue with the existing links?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saltmarsh Tech: Unsure how it works - will look. So far I just used it. Don't think it's maintained any meore
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: i think its linked to a boot server for the maps
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Neeper nods at Dr. Evl.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: which was annoying when i tried to add new links to better gaardian maps
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, all the map links are in the external_maplinks database, and are formated as such: <a href="http://aardwolfboot.com/map/Aardington_Light.jpg" target="_blank">Light</a>
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, all the map links are in the external_maplinks database, and are formated as such: <a href="http://aardwolfboot.com/map/Aardington_Light.jpg" target="_blank">Light</a> <a href="http://aardwolfboot.com/map/Aardington_Seekers.gif" target="_blank">Seekers</a>
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So really, it's up to Boot to make changes on their end.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: could probs create a local db given time
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: As long as you convert them all to images, probably.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: surely not theyre just links you click right?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Look at the format of them. They are images, and for reason.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: Gaardian            https://aardwolfboot.com/map/Faerie2_Gaardian.html
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'm not sure how the maps would render in a miniwindow.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: they are hrefs and i think youre just looking at a subset, which happen to be images
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: unless we have different plugins of course *shrug*
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I mean, try it with the webpage itself. But there's also a reason why there's no 'Browser' extension... I truly do not think it's capable of rendering webpages, but placing an image is easy.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: we may have different plugins, mine just opens the browser
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, we might not. I don't know. I don't use the plugin myself. Just did some basic digging into it.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: yeah then it opens a browser
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I thought it placed the image in a window in MUSH so you didn't have to go to the browser, but you're likely right.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: that would be cool
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In that case, changing the links should be easy to do.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr. Evl Tech: probably, i was new to lua when i looked at it
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: so this has probably been asked and answered repeatedly since new areas went in, so i guess it's my turn :p snd doesn't seem to be able to find rooms in chantry for quests. says "no matching rooms found". the whole area is explored and mapper can find it manually. thoughts?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoyalFlush Kelaire Tech: There's a way (I don't use SND) to add the new area to snd through the commands.  SND help should let you find that command (and hopefulyl someone smarter than me answers)
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: snd index areas, i think?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: did that
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: or snd areas index
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: xset index areas
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i think it is having some sort of a translation error from Fellchantry -> chantry but that's just a wild guess
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yep. chantry was missing from the area-id lookup table. manually added it in the plugin but i wonder if there is a more correct way of doing that...
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}7 8 Nueve Tech: how do i add say cexits for skd
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: mapper cexit say {magic word}
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: in each respective room
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}7 8 Nueve Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: "dinv search wearable hold type treasure" shows me 94 items, but "dinv usage all wearable hold type treasure" doesn't return anything. what am i doing wrong?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: "dinv usage all wearable hold type armor" works just fine
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i do not know the answer, but i can confirm i get the same behvaior
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: my immediate thought is "maybe you don't have anything that uses that", but "all" is not "allUsed" so that's proooobably not it
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: if that were the case i'd expect it to look something like the output for "dinv usage all wearable hold type trash"
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: nod
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: since trivia tokens aren't exactly best-in-slot =)
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: hah
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yeah. other classifications work for that same query
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: oho check this out reyn
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: -- Only consider an item available to be used if it has a wearable location,
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: -- is not a potion, pill, or food, and if it is not both a treasure and hold item.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: hmm yeah and "dinv usage all wearable hold" doesnt list any items of type treasure, despite some bloot with potentially valuable stats falling into that classification
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: seems intentional
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: (lines 17336,17337 in my dinv)
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: no idea why but it is at least not unintended? lol
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: oh good find!
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i'm not quite sure i follow how that comment aligns with the code logic, but i'm better at reading words than i am understanding code
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do I print what dinv plugin does?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: dinv help notify?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Is there any way to make mushclient windows "snap to grid"?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: any sql gods here
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: select *, omniscience :D
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: holy shit sath
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: ehh disregard
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Is there a way to convert a Mudlet profile with a bunch of aliases, triggers, etc over to Mushclient or do I just need to re-create them in mushclient?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: You might be able to automatically migrate triggers and aliases. "etc" is vague. Plugins would probably obviously not be migrateable.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Right. Mainly the aliases, triggers, keys.. Was hoping to avoid creating all that again if possible.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I read there is a plugin that gives access to a manual within the client, is that still around somewhere or do I just need to look stuff online?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: how can i expand a variable from a plugin via the input line of mushclient, like if i have ortal_bag defined for instance
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: portal_bag i mean
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: i think u need to use the scripting prefix
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: or use an alias and check expand variables
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: ah thanks
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: or maybe i misread ur question. if its a variable from a plugin you'd need to use GetPluginVariable()
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: ah thats what i was looking for! thanks
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: is it possible to have a plugin write a variable to the mushclient? As in you know how you can define variables in the scripting section of configuration in mush? Can you have a plugin that updates it or is that only for manual entries?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: SetVariable() iirc
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: ohhhh, i'll have to give that a try, I need to update those variables constantly whenever i level, it makes it so much easier to have a plugin do automatic things when you achieve a level threshold lol
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: so (again, from memory) SetVariable("VarName","var value is always a string")
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: yea it's always stored as a string, even if it's a number. pretty annoying
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: fortunateyl it's not toooo hard to tell lua "no, really, i know it says it's a string, but it's really an int"
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evine Tech: Thanks Anssett! It does indeed work!
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: is there a known issue with xrt/mapper?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: don't think so
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: xrt is misdirecting me away from the target area.  its happened to me several times.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: no idea, haven't seen that happen
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: can try rt the area, then 'xset mark' at the entrance, then recall and try xrt again?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: does it just run to some random spot, or the wrong area?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: wrong area
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: xset mark may fix it
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: any suggestions to any specific plugins worth having installed?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: I just reset the mark, and tried again... failed
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Brawny Bronnie Tech: might be an issue with portals added in wrong room or such, too
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: what area are you trying to run to, and where is it going isntead?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kegu Tech: what zone you running to?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: scarr
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: So in Mushclient, is creating a variable the usual like 'food = "pie"? or is there something different?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: \\\SetVariable("food", "pie") if you're doing it from the command line. I forget if I added #var to mine, or if it comes standard, but if it's not added as an alias, you can add it yourself. #var {*} {*} -- SetVariable("%1", "%2") and Send to Script.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Then you can do #var {food} {pie}
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (Note that 'standard' meaning AardMUSH package, not vanilla MUSH)
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: aah.. you can create variables from the command line?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yep, with the \\\ command I showed you (provided \\\ is your scripting prefix)
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: well that's cool. not used to that idea.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But if the #var alias is already created, then you can just do #var {varname} {value} as I mentioned, too.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: thank you, i really like that you can create those from the command line. just seems that would be quicker than having to pop in and out of another window
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: after you create the variable, then say you want to use it in an alias, how do you call the alias... I'm guessing ood? or a different way?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: woops.. i mean't ood
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: lol "ood"
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: well ok.. so it's got the at sign in front of the name of the variable
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High Risk Losteix Tech: did you perhaps mean @food? you need to double the @ to escape it.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: yes, that's what I was trying to do. lol
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Depends on where you're sending the info to. If you send to script, you'll need to do GetVariable("food"). But if it's to world/execute, tick the box 'Expand variables' and use @food.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MillieCoyote Tech: Does anyone play on Mudlet? I've been trying to figure out how to disable the chat noises and haven't had any luck figuring it out :C
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I was told about a plugin that helped with inventory, there was one or two other plugins mentioned that are said to be good to have, I've not seen any of these plugins.. any suggestions or ref. to url's that might have them?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: The "dinv" plugin helpw manage your inventory.  If you are interested in it, "showdesc durel" and look at the docs link to see a walkthrough for the types of things it can do.  If you are interested, you can grab it from the other link in the description.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: psh don't be so coy, durel. tell 'em to finger you
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: lol
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Most people have cold hands though :p
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: haha
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Thanks for the info
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: C'mon, I've fingered a few in my time.. I'm not shy. 
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: Seriously though, the desc is more convenient because it also has a link to the docs and how to use dinv.  With finger, you only get the link to the plugin itself.  You'd be surprised how many people don't know the docs are out there :p
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fidenix Tech: I appreciate that.  I just grabbed dinv earlier today and was a bit confuzzled on the usage
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i didn't know you have docs in github, the in-plugin docs were always good enough lol
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: all kidding aside.. I do appreciate all the help. The more I mess with Mushclient, the more I'm intrigued with it.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: the inventory plugin causes an error that I'm not able to copy, then it freezes up mushclient all together.
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: how do you fix snd location unknown? i've done xset index areas and snd reload still not good
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: ignore, weird that it only happened on lv 185 cp
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: In Mushclient, I re-arranged the windows, how can I save my layout so it's not going back to the default each time I load Mushclient?
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: see "aard layout help"
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: you save save/restore layouts.  It's pretty nice
T3/r7/2023-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Ok, that's slick.
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: in snd is there a way to change the order of the list? for instance, if the first mob is in an unlikely room can i somehow move it to the bottom of the list?
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: When you're saving aliases, triggers, variables... When you use "save as", does it save everything in one file, or do you save each individual section seperately?
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It saves anything that's made in the MUSHClient itself into the .mcl world file.
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Plugin information, however, is stored in its own state file.
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KnightLord Throxx Tech: why is the command for reading aera notes not in the mapper utils, where addnote is?
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: any sql gods here right now
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Why has my client suddenly become very prone to "not responding" every few minutes
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: It unfreezes after a few seconds each time but it's really odd and annoying when it ran perfectly fine for years
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: haven't installed any plugins or made changes recently
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: you're not alone alison, I've heard several people have the same issue today
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: im having same problem the last hour or so
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Oh really?
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Then it must not be a problem with the client, but rather with the MUD.
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alainna Tech: mine was doing that when I used the VPN
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Some weird code somewhere is spamming up people's clients and making them crash.
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alainna Tech: so I dc'd the VPN and it helped
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: mine was running fine until recently
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: only had issues today
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: I have been having debilitating Mushclient issues today
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: freezes for over 15 min
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: lots of people do apparently, if you check chan history
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: closing client and restarting it does not fix
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Omphalon Tech: is this a known issue?
T3/r7/2023-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: is there a way to clear mushclient 's memory cache or something
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xalia Tech: i just updated my version of mush client for Ardwolf, and i can no longer see my output window with JAWS or the buffer list using the arrow keys... What could be wrong?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xalia Tech: i downloaded the one for screen reader users.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xalia Tech: does anyone play this game with MudRammer on ios?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boi Zyanya Tech: yep
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: look
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MillieCoyote Tech: Does anyone who uses Mudlet know of how to disable the ascii minimap? It's obscuring part of my display D:
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: once a while my mush gets super laggy and then it freezes for a bit. is there a memory dump or ways i can clear cache? Not sure if I am asking the correct question but I dont want my mush to hang
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Saraid Tech: mine does that when I have chrome open too long 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: is it just me, or are all these Password Reset questions a security risk in and of themselves? 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: especially when they overlap with how one validates their credit agency accounts? first model of car lol
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why do you think they are
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: they're just additional, mfa and password are still there
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and email
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: Because it means that's there's thousands of discrete independent operators holding databases full of PII
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: taht isn't considered PII
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: that isn't regulated as such, I should say
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: bc it's the sort of "casual aside" sentence that when companies get breached get to brag "No credit card info was stolen" (doubtful?) just meaningless info like those questions? funny part is that im pretty sure theres folks who know how to triangulate info
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: think you need specifics cuz
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if you're talking about last pass breach, data wasn't leaked unencrypted
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: still need master password
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: "If you had chosen your own first name, what would it have been?" Trez ... and I'm appointing Trez in charge of remembering this
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ill give you my security question answer, go log in into my account
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if no login in 10 mins, you owe me 5B gold here
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: deal or no deal
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Honestly, the best practice is to choose something YOU will remember that isn't related to you. "What's your favorite book?" "YOLO." "Who was your 2nd grade teacher?" "YOLO." "What is the make and model of your first car?" "YOLO."
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: should i use tp for cp.  YOLO
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I use tp for my bunghole, YOLO!
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Don't do it Dartan, CP rolling is the Aard version of lootboxes
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: if I exported all of my aliases to a plugin, is there a way to easily restore those, or a manual process?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: nvm.. import looks like it will
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: can anyone link me the plugin that shows what auto settings you have on? autoloot/autosac/etc
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: so i upgraded from an older mush (i believe 4.93) which i had for like 10 years or something, to the latest one yesterday, and ever since that happened, the movement of text on my screen seemed to become a bit choppier, especially when things are moving fast, like speedwalking. it will freeze for a split second here and there. anyone knows why?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: do you have the automap plugin enabled? In my experience it's a bit of a resource hog
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: just the built in mapper, which has always been there
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: ohwait
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: let me check
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: i misunderstood you at first
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: aard_ascii_map.xml is the one I'm talking about
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: hmm isnt that the mapper window?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: no, it's made out of ascii characters
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: is that the one that puts your map in a separate window?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it is a separate window
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: the mapper window has squares representing rooms, with lines between them representing exits
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: i see. i had that for my older mush as well, but it didnt cause any lag
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: although back then it looked different
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: it didnt change the lines to make it more realistic
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: yeah, that's some unicode trick I think
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: anyway, you could try temporarily disabling that plugin and seeing if it helps
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: you may also want to disable 'automap'
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: automap can add a lot of lines to your output, and MUSH will have to run the trigger engine for each line. If you have a lot of plugins/triggers, it can get really costly to render that map
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: hmm i think it helps but i do miss that window :/
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: Try disabling plugin by plugin to see if there is a culprit, or restart your computer/etc and see if it's something unrelated like MSE going hard about the 'new' xml files in the state folder
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: the solution is to clean up your mush installation. Remove things with lots of triggers
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: There isn't a generalized "this is the bad thing that Fiendish put into MushClient that sucks" solution anyone can offer here
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: hmmm ok
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: personally, I was experiencing a lot of lag on movement, and I figure out that the culprit was a plugin that I wrote that was generating thousands of triggers
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ogreskull nods at Sath.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: anything that is going per room parsing on move can get pretty bogged down!
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: I was able to clean that plugin up so that it does the processing in code rather than through the trigger engine, and it more or less fixed my performance
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: i do have a lot of old plugins installed which might be overlapped with new ones that came with aard mush
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: so i'll probably clean those up
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: in general, the more you can remove the better
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Cirrua did this lag start in the last few days
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: lots of people have been reporting serious mush lag in the last few days
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: i suspect either mud or mush has a bug
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If it's MUSH, it's not affecting everyone. For example, me. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But in the same regard, if it's the MUD, it's not affecting everyone. Once again, for example, me.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: It only affects the people Lasher suspects of botting
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: the lag is all your commands being logged and sent straight to him for review
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ingenue Alison lives in fear.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In any situation, I think the best course of action is to download a fresh client, with zero plugins. Start there, and determine if the lag/unresponsiveness happens with a fresh client. Then add plugins back one-by-one until you start to see the lag again.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: is it intermittent Alison? And hard to reproduce the issue?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: yes my lag started yesterday, but i also installed a new mush over my old one so i assumed it's because of that
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Curious, is there an inventory management plugin that works and won't muck up everything? or a more recent plugin? The one I keep seeing come up when I check out the plugin sites, it freezes up Mushclient and just messes everything up.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: you're talking about dinv?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: yea
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: interesting, never hread of dinv freezing up mushclient
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: unless you're talking about the build step, which identifies all your stuff
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Been using dinv for 5 years. no issues
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I downloaded the plugin, after I tried to load it into Mushclient, it just froze everything to the point I had to close Mushclient
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Did you get an error message?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: are you wa out of date on your mushclient build maybe
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: you might have experienced a separate issue that appears to be associated with a newish build of mushclient
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I did in the main window.. Sad thing is, I couldn't get back to the main window to copy the error.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: try it again and see if it happens again
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: it may have been unrelated to dinv
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: and be ready with snipping tool lol
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: lol ok.. scares me though.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: the name of the plugin is aard_inventory.. Can you verify that or am I maybe getting something different?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: that's dinv
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: ok. Just making sure
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Nope. Everything locks up, plugin window blocks main window so you can't see anything and everything just locks up.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Plugin window?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Dinv has no plugin window
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: when you open the plugin window to add the plugin
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: but if you're copying the folder and leaving the original there it won't really matter
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: mis
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I don't know if it's due to the plugin messing up mushclient or not but now my variables and aliases are gone.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: did you save theM?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: they don't save by default
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I was just wondering about that.. I figured they were there between sessions, Ok.. yea, that's nothing to do with the plugin.. Guess I need to save them before logging off/quiting mushclient
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: triggers/aliases/timers/variables are stored in the mushclient file, you have to file->save or ctrl+S
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: or add this timer (and save): <timers> <timer enabled="y" minute="2" send_to="12"><send>if GetInfo (111) then; ColourNote("white", "", "Saving MUSHclient file."); Save (); end -- if world file changed</send> </timer></timers>
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: you can copy everything between ther <timers> tags and then go to your timers dialog and "Paste"
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: oh nice. thanks.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: what should I set the intervals too on that?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: or any other settings I should make
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: What should I set the interval time to? any other settings I should set for that timer?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: When you save aliases, variables, etc.. Do you have to save each area seperately? or is there a way to just save everything under one file?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: They are all saved under the .mcl file, as I believe I said before.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Aliases, triggers, variables, timers, things you create in the MUSHclient itself is saved under the world's .mcl file.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Sorry, I do remember that conversation.. 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I'm thinking I can then save everything with selecting "save world details" just to clarify
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Correct.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I do apologize if i'm coming across as "annoying" with all my questions, I'm trying to learn MUSHclient, haven't used it before.. not sure why, it's a nice client and all the addons with aardwolf is nice.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: nope, you're using this channel as intended
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Please, don't apologize. It's sometimes a lot to take in, and personally, I'd rather you were certain of your actions than do something and completely have to start over.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Thank you. Sometimes I wonder if I'm just "being too much" hehe.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Pfft, you're tame compared to some people.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: well that's good to know. lol
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: the mapper, the fancy status bar, stats window at the front.. is this all aardwolf itself or will the same windows load with other muds?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: those are all aard specific
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: aardwolf itself only gives you what you see on the main window with all the commands and output
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: everything else is plugin
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: you can in theory play aardwolf from your command prompt on your computer... i just don't recommend it
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: you could potentially modify the aard plugins to work with other muds, but it'd be a lot of effort
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i keep a "normal" Mushclient for other mudding, and aardmush for aard
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: There are generic component classes the Aard specific plugins use however, you could use those to build plugins for other muds. 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Ok, well it makes MUDing that much more enjoyable. I've never played in the MUDs like I have since joining aardwolf and exploring MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Other muds that use Mush as their main client tend to have a lot of Fiendish's work in them
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: not gonna lie, aard was the first time i saw other mushclient users. one of the reasons i stuck around haha
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: "found my people!" etc
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: really like it here. Just trying to learn my way around the client now.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, if you go to the MUSHclient forums, you'll see people posting, "Oh, I took this from Fiendish's mapper plugin to modified it to my MUD but yadda yadda yadda."
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yeah it was a little weird going "wait that fiendish guy is actually *here*, not just on the forums"
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: not just on the forums
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Good lord, say his name 3 times, and he pops up.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: hehe It's nice to see there's still active supporters that don't mind helping 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: got beetlejuiced
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: usually have to pay extra for that
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: And I'm impressed with MUSHclient. I know it's been around for ages, I was busy with other clients. My bad for not exploring Aardwolf and MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett is disapproving of everything and everyone!
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: I'm honestly not that impressed.... The windows on the aardwolf client don't even snap together nicely
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that's because they're fake
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: Even as displayed pixels it should be easy to sort through
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oh ok
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I accept pull requests on github
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: Its that somewhere the programming got away from the programmer
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish gives a thumbs-up to Eshel.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: I guess I'll have to come work for you clearly
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I won't stop you from contributing
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: Like if its within 5 or 10 pixels on way resize them automatically if they clicked on "snap boxes"
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: cool cool, sounds good
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: let me know when you have it ready for me to review, yeah?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: Well, it's a legacy project so I'm not sure why you're mocking
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you're right. I should not mock you for lacking social awareness. It's unfair and unkind, so I honestly apologize. But I will let you know that your comments here lack social awareness.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: About how shit it is? Or about common courtesy?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: when you're trolling, it's best to follow the rules of the medium, otherwise it becomes really easy to stop you from trolling
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: for example, this is a no swearing channel
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ok, well, I'm going afk for now. you can submit your pull request to add grid snapping whenever you want
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: sometimes, the words just get away from the wordsmith
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: Or you can just stop pretending to know how to program.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: last warning Eshel
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: I'm not going to fit, don't worry about it Kharpern
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: Just throw the ban hammer then,
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: or you could learn to play within the rules and be fine
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Selitos suggests you not upset the people who have the delete button
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: There are always two options when you don't like how something is coded: Either do something about it and improve the code and be a contributing member, or just don't use it. I'm sure there are other options, but being a jackass isn't a welcoming one.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: pretty sure eshel is just trolling. Best not to engage with that type of behavior
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: Just don't say it's good by 2023 standards, that is all. No one young is going to jump into the game and client and think its designed good.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: It's good by windows 95 standards
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I joined Aard at 17. thought mushclient was brilliant. 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: and 3 months later look at alison now
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley cackles gleefully at Cheesy Anssett.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: I'm glad it doesn't snap
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Classic Vost Tech: I don't play Aardwolf for the graphics
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helpdesk Kharpern sniggers at Cheesy Anssett's actions.  Maybe you should REPORT the idjit.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: question - is there way i can have triggers include plugin output lines, not just in-game output? i want to highlight a line of text generated by a plugin
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: same here
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Personally, snapping windows annoy the hell out of me.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: for mush*
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Cirrus: Elaborate?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: windows 10 snaps and it's annoying as hell because it never snaps correctly
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: You can just make a toggle,
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: cirrus, not really, but technically kinda
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaballon Tech: the plugin needs to use Simulate()
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: It should never be an issue if its designed properly
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: or you need to write code to look through the output lines
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: well, make it metter and start coding yourself
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: better
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But Ayasinda, that is too much work and I'd rather bitch and moan about it than do something about it. :(
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda is agreeing with that (Aleister) Crowley person again...
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: you have been here all of 6 days maybe play a bit more before you critize overly
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: What are you talking about? I'm not bitching about it. I just said it wasn't good byh 2023 standards. Holy,
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodthorn Tech: wait was that Crowley or Eshel talking
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: usually if i want to highlight something, i use a trigger and i would change color and style, but for plugin output lines it doesnt work. so i guess im thinking along the lines of whether theres a toggle to still let me do this
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: Stop taking it as a personal attack
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's actually what I told my boss last week when she asked me to try to prevent cancellations of cases. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Eshel you should review rules 1 and 3
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: can we please just be nice... 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: help rules
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Oh, you might be talking about using ColourNote, then.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can do: ColourNote("white", "blue", "Hi, my name is Cirrus, and I'm an addict!") in the plugin, and it'll output it in white text with a blue background.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: Sorry, I don't think not agreeing with the design of something is a personal attack. It's not an attack on that person but rather the finished project of something they contributed towards
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: crowley, I think cirrus wants to modify the style of some plugin's ColourNote
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: doesn't aard layout pretty much remove the need to snap anyways
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: which is extremely nontrivial
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I noticed there's a plugin I have running called Inventory Serials.. could that be causing issues with inventory management plugin? Random thought...
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't be Cirrus Tech: thanks crowley i'll try that
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It shouldn't be. That's a plugin that Fiendish has included, but you can turn it on/off/remove it completely.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it may break things when you do :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It shouldn't.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: inventory serials doesn't do anything but modify output, it won't break dinv (which doesn't rely on inventory output)
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I don't like when things break. lol I'll leave it alone.. It was just a random thought, I dunno.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: It's got me perplexed though, why so many people has been running with inventory management but I can't get it to work on my side. Just weird.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: ah. i've never actually looked at that particular plugin. Novius, you may also want to check out aard help for the various fiendish plugins packaged with aardmush
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it won't fix your dinv problems but it can maybe help you identify what you're looking at in that list
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i would hope so
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: miiiis
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: When society has all this automation and instead of using it to work together to make everything better, instead we compete over every last morsel and breadcrumb and waste mountains of gold regulating over what man fights for. Society can always put the people who are pushing on new understandings more, there is no reason to posture this way.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: give*
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: don't start
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: How many generations before we go through this Kharpern?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helpdesk Kharpern Tech: this isn't the place to have a discussion like that 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: yeah this seems like more gossip or debate material
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'm back
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: who has questions?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: the meaning of life the universe and everything?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martinvs Tech: 42
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MAMBO! Mushambo Tech: Mendie's plugin says "Send rscocials to fiendish chat" i assume this a misdesc of actual process? otherwise everyone hug me now
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you shouldn't need that plugin anymore
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: comm log capture has had a remote socials non-channels capture toggle for a long time
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish: I was looking at TruncateStyles recently, and though I have a functional function that returns only the note now, I thought TruncateStyles would have been a good solution. However, I must be misunderstanding how it works. When I try to run TruncateStyles(lines, 2, #lines-3) (as an example), I get an error for line 308, attempting to perform arithmetic on field 'length' (a nil value). So, am I using it wrong?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hmmmm
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: For reference, this is how I was using it: \\\local function myFunc(lines) local newLines = TruncateStyles(lines, 2, #lines-3) tprint(newLines) end Capture.untagged_output("note read again", true, true, true, myFunc, false)
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: well let's start with the obvious that just because something works for me doesn't mean it works in all cases
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: lemme look at the code real quick to see if it fits what you're doing
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: sorry, taking longer than expected
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No worries.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: ahhh ok so
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: lines is many lines. truncate styles wants one line at a time
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but you can iterate through the lines and truncate them one at a time
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So basically, its role is to turn This is some colored Text to some colored Text if I were to truncate that line at index 2 and 3?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it doesn't remove whole style runs. it removes characters
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Ahhh.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: if all it did was remove whole style runs the function would be much much simpler
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, I get it now.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, yes, I was using it very incorrectly.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I finally got that error from the inventory plugin...
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And using my function that I have already will be the better (only) option.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: line 16: attribute name 'crossorigin' not followed by = (cannot load)
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antifa Raded Tech: looking for a tablet recommendation to watch my stories. needs to take microSD, android preferred
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Did you do 'Save as' for the plugin file rather than download the code or copy/paste into notepad?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I believe I did, I might have used the download link. Should I download it via "save as"?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I can try that again
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: No. Plugins you find on Github should never be 'Save as'. Either click the green 'Code' and download the zip and extract the plugin, or view the raw plugin, copy and paste into a notepad, and save it from there.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: from github? go to the "Raw" version and then save that
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Ok, going to try this again.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Does the raw version actually utilize 'save as' properly? I thought it still added the junk that MUSH hates.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: just click it
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: then save after it loads
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I'll have to remember that for next time, then.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it should come up as plain text
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I always send people to raw, but I've told them to copy/paste rather than Save As. I guess I didn't realize that it would save properly from the raw version.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: technically it can depend on the browser
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: Edge used to do something very stupid where it would wrap plain text files in HTML
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but now Edge is chromium so I think it doesn't do that anymore
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I want to save the data I copied as .xml, yes?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: mushclient plugins are all XML files with XML tags declaring triggers/aliases and a script section inside of them
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Yeah, appears Edge does not wrap it in html. Just tested it with one of my plugins. From raw, Save As saved it appropriately. Neat.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Do I want to save that as a regular text file type or do I need to change that to something else?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Though I will say that an extra blank line was added at the end. Plugin only has 169 lines, and is represented with 169 lines in Github. But save as, it now has 170.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Change the file type to either 'xml' and save it, or 'all file types' and save it with the .xml file extension.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: and we have dinv working... Thank you for the help!!
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley claps at Novius's actions.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I was reading it was good to find a room that was "out of the way", Suggestions where to go?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: anywhere that isn't a clanhall entrance or aylor recall shoudl be fine :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Depends on what you were planning on doing.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Just wanted to set up dinv, I wasn't sure what all it was going to do that it was noted I should find a less busy room... so thought i'd ask
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: dinv build, yeah just find a room alot pf people are not standing in
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: the ID guy in aylor if you don't have the wish
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just go stand out in some continent area otherwise.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Didn't want to cause a flood and upset the Gods or make them wonder what I was doing. lol
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Heh. When it was first introduced and I was testing it, Durel had it echoing 'dbot' (Durel's Bag of Tricks), so Lasher sent me a tell basically saying, "WTF are you doing?" :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Novius claims to be innocent... Then looks at his shadowed outfit and what he does for a living.. Ok, mostly innocent!
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Thanks Fiendish, for pointing out how to save files from github. Didn't realize that made a difference.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley is chopped liver.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: No.. you helped me a lot too, Geez. lol
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Too late. I took offense. Can't take it back now.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Others were helpful too
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: oh.. sure. The great Crowley trying to guilt trip a thief? lol 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley is a bandit, so...
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: lol Ok, I'm out.. I got nothing. I know when I'm on the losing end. 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Also, not great. Don't feed my ego that much. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Trying to understand something, It was mentioned if I saved the world, it saves everything... trigger, aliases, everything under one .mcl file, yes? What might have I done that nothing loaded when I loaded aardwolf? I still had to load the individual alias file to get my stuff back.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You have an individual alias file? Why?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: to save my aliases? I mean.. It seems when I load MUSHclient, it doesn't load my added aliases and such. So I started using save as.. in the alias window to save my work, so I don't lose it when I close MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: When you go to the Aliases GUI, you see nothing there?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Just now, when I reloaded MUSHclient, I had to load my alias file, or I'd have to start all over again
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: not when I first start the client
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I mean the two default aliases are there.. but nothing I've added
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But when you load your alias file, the aliases are in the alias GUI?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: write permission errors on where the mcl file is maybe? weird
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: And if you go to File -> Save, or click the 'Save' icon, then close it out, it doesn't load them again?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: no.. not automatically
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Where do you have your MUSHclient folder saved to?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: enough disk space on the drive?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: to the Users folder
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: yes, space isn't a problem
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Reyn... if his drive was so full it couldn't take 2 bytes of information...
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Can you screenshot what your alias gui looks like right now?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: could be 2 drives, people still do that :D
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: my disk filled up before where i was running mush and it corrupted my mcl file.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear Reyn has been here just a second ago. You wonder where he went ...
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: aha firsthand knowledge :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reyn Tech: i mean ... it was my friend. i would never be so foolish as to not monitor disk space.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley smirks.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I can make a screenshot.. Where do I post it?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I've loaded my file so now all my aliases are listed
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Imgur, whatever host you prefer. I like vgy.me
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's what I wanted to verify.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: hang on, i'll snapshot this
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: ShareX is a wonderful screenshot program, and can upload to many hosts.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: how do you even save your aliases in a separate file?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: huh, there's a save thing in the aliases dialog
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: there's an option to save/load aliases
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: But I didn't want to save multiple files like having one for aliases, one for triggers, etc... 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: so when I noticed things weren't loading with "save world", I got wondering..
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Which is why I said they all save in the .mcl file. The fact they aren't for you is boggling.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: https://pasteboard.co/0SsBT9KGS9pb.png
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: alias window screenshot
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Only ones listed when starting Mushclient, is the #alias and #trigger alias.. nothing more loads unless I load the personal alias file
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Okay, now go to File -> Save. Then close MUSH, and reopen. Just to confirm they are no longer there.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: (Sorry, long day at work, kinda dozed off).
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: No worries, I appreciate the time and help
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: brb
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Well, everything loaded. What happened differently?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sath Tech: maybe you used some other mechanism than File->Save?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I got involved. It's an established fact (at least at home and work) that when I get involved, things magically fix themselves.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Honestly, some days... Me and technology doesn't see eye to eye.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I don't even have to do anything except look at something at work or home and it starts behaving.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spronktar Tech: it's the Tech Support Aura, you get it at level 6
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: My coworker's told me many times, "Okay, you and I are meeting outside. I'm tired of looking like an idiot because it just works when you're around." :P
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: lol
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods at Spronktar.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, glad it works now.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I will say that some of those aliases, you can just do MUDside, too.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: me too! thanks again for all the help. lol
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: One time I sent a long note to Durel telling him dinv broke and providing a lot of details about the bug
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: turns out I just dropped my aard bag because people kept fidoing me bags of flaming poo so I stupidly went "unkeep all.bag;drop all.bag"
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley rolls on the floor laughing at Ingenue Alison's antics!
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: had to send a follow up note explaining there was no bug after all... he got a kick out of that one
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I've done that.. more times than I want to admit of course. lol yeesh.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: doh!
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: lol Maybe I can get some game time in now instead of trying to fix everything.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: The courier gives you Ambush's Flamin' Bag O'Poo, sent by (Aleister) Crowley.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: btw, Just wanted to say I really appreciate the help here.. It makes a difference in the whole mudding experience. I try to figure my stuff out before making noise. I'm glad I'm not being "pesty" lol
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley beams with pride.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: that includes you, Crowley. Just to make sure you understand I'm giving you credit as well.. and not chopped liver.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Still too late! Still offended!
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley tickles Novius.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: You mentioned me using mud side aliases.. I've always, for some reason, wanted to keep my aliases all on the client side (keeping everything under one roof) sort of speaking. I did see you can have up to 60 aliases on the mud.. Just seems odd to have aliases on the mud.. have aliases in the client.. Why not just keep them all in one place? *shrug* hehe
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: lol
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: touch crowd!
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: tough
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: I think you're right Novius,
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Well, if for some reason you ever have to switch clients, or if you log in through a different client that doesn't have your basic aliases...
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: But perhaps some of your aliases should represent commands in the MUD, or improvements
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: I'm not sure what you've forged
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshel Tech: An example would be the command 'invsearch', instead of the game showing there is no command it could say: 'Did you intend to enter 'invsort'
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: there is that, I admit.. you are right in that aspect, Crowley. I just figure I'm always finding uses for an alias, figured if i was to reach (60's a good amount, I admit) but if i was to reach 60.. then had another brain storming idea for an alias... then I gotta stick it in the client, cuz I filled my limit on the mud. so my brain says why not just keep things client side to start. 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I personally have 57 aliases. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: MUDside, that is.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: all MUDside?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Those are just MUDside. I have many more clientside.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But I also utilize a lot of scripting components in them.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: odd question, how do you personally, decide what should be MUDside or client?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: that's understandable
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Depends on why I'm creating the alias. For example, 'fw' is 'friend wannabe'. I don't need to create an alias in the client for it. 'summon' is aliased to 'c summon', etc.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: makes sense
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If it's an alias that is going to be more involved (e.g. taking variables) then I'll use the clientside alias.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I'm guessing there's no way to create variables MUDside?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Nope
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I like variables. Makes life easier.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I have a variable for the food I'm currently buying and eating, but that might change... so then I just need to change it in one place, as you know this is quicker than having to make changes in different places. 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I think that's why I keep everything client side too. then I know everything is just together in one place
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: my only hangup, as you mentioned, is if I change clients or something like that. I had to start over when I decided I was using Mushclient.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: It can be a little painful, I admit. Specially when you have a whole list of aliases/variables and the such.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: If you were able to export them from your old client, they might have been able to be converted in some fashion to MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I try to stick to one client for all my mudding
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I was lucky to find Mushclient soon after deciding to explore this mud, I was using Mudlet, luckily I wasn't knee deep into it and having made a ton of aliases and such.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Where might I find this mysteriously hidden plugin with help file when I click help in the client? Or is it best to just look stuff up on the web?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: MUSHclient has a ton of support. I was a heavy zMUD/CMUD user for years. After the developer stopped working on it, I started converting all my scripts to MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Back when I started in Muds, I was a big fan of zMUD.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Eh, if you're talking about the 'help' menu, Microsoft decided to do away with its original help viewer instead of keeping it backward compatible with newer versions of WindowsOS. Now you have to install something else to view the help files.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But I find it easier to view it on the site anyway.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: kk
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: mush just hung (not responding) for 30mins. got my coffee came back and it sorted itself out. apparently many have the same issues recently. 3rd day in a role now. anyone out there also experience this?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Cool. I wrote a function that effectively repositions a window to the nearest invisible grid mark of 5 pixels.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: but I like those gaps...
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: sounds like a job for chatGPT *shifty* :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Now if I can expand that to not clash with window positions of every window.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: that's nice crow
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Using dinv, is there any way to "dinv get" just 1 item vs all of that item?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Wonder if I can make it also resize to snap to 5 pixels.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: sure, you just need a way to uniquely specify the item.  You could do something like "dinv get id 1234567" if you know the id.  You could also do something very specific like "dinv get name sword level 151"
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: you could also assign your own keyword to an item and then get the item via that keyword.  See "dinv help keyword" and then do something like "dinv get key myAwesomeKey"
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: what you trying to do?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Does assigning keywords to items survive producing a corpse and dinv builds?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: easier to just use the item's native id number, i would think. that never changes.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: keywords survive refreshes, but not a full rebuild
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah its a perm change to the item, costs 1 tp i beleive
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i mean 2
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's a restring, not dinv related.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Ok, I can be more clear, sorry. So I have like 6 of the same potion in a bag, I just want to get 1 potion from the bag, not all of them.. I used dinv get and it pulled them all out of the bag.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: well, I'm talking about the dinv pseudo-keywords.  If you use tp to actually add it to an item then you don't need to worry about that
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: oh, see "dinv help consume"
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: if you want it to do potions use dinv consume
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: very handy
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: that will get and quaff potions for you
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Oh nice.. Ok. Still learning to use dinv. I like it though, not used to not having to specify which container to get from
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: you specific the potion and container and dinmv will buy, store, get , quaff all for you  :)
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: oooh... slick! Yea, I'm going to get used to this real quick. lol
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: I have two alias, one to buy potions and one to quaff potions
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: dinv even goes to the right shop to buy for me  :)
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: oh wow
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thy Friend Yerald is agreeing with that Selitos person again...
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: sooo.. you can use dinv commands in an alias?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: As long as you set the alias to Execute, yes.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: absolutely :)  The dinv commands are waaaaay to long to type out by hand :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thy Friend Yerald Tech: yes.. you have to 'execute' them.. not 'world'
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yes just send to execute istead of send to wrold
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: ok, that is sweet
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: when you quaff a potion it even tells you how many yo have left :)
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: durel is da bomb
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: are you calling me a boomer? :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: dang...
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: so you know when to buy more....
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Selitos smirks.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: nice plugin Durel! You got skillz yo! hehe
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Just do yourself a favor and never open up the plugin to view the code. Durel wrote over 20k lines of code for that plugin.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: seriously, that is awesome
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: lol, I had to comment it because that was my first time using lua and I didn't know what the heck I was doing :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley grins evilly at Durel.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: I think there are way more comments than actual code there
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Selitos smirks.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In reality, it's probably about 50% comment, 50% code. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: which is a good practice probably :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: i love it, im learning a lot just reading through it
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i have gotten to trusting the dinv set wear functions too, its nice
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Korendir: My practice is, "Let me write this piece of code. I'm sure I'll remember why I wrote it this way in the future." only to turn into, "WTF was I thinking? Why is this x == y+z-y? That makes no sense!" only to find out if I change it, it breaks everything.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: the more I read through it, mess with it.. I can see this is going to be a great tool.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: yes that does sound very familiar :P
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: there _is_ a middle path.  i have lost track of how many times, usually while maintaining other peoples spaghetti, i have encountered comments lole 
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: like* 'no idea why this works, but dont change it or something else breaks'
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Fiendish has some of the best comments in his, though.
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: yeah thats because the first person did not comment!
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: why would you think that wasnt the original author's comment?
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: some programmers believe that comments are unnecessary
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Durel Tech: those programmers have the best job security :p
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: or not
T3/r7/2023-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: in some languages, with the right style guide, you can do without.  its not easy to write that way, and even harder to read that way.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the thing is most comments _are_ unnecessary, but it's because people have a tendency to want to comment about the wrong things
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: you shouldn't ever need to comment what code is doing. you always need to comment _why_ code is doing what it's doing
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: That's the kicker. I'd rather have no comments than comments that waste my time
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: the code won't lie to me. it might be confusing, but the code explains exactly what it does
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindayne Tech: question, when i have mush in forefront i can't click an open chrome tab and get it to come to front the mush client stays in front until i minimize i'm sure it's something simple i messed up :P
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: can't do that
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: you need a chrome extension to be in front
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindayne Tech: i mean that's what it's doing how do i get it to stop :P
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindayne Tech: literally won't let me click on chrome to bring it to front lol instead mush is in front and wont go away
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindayne Tech: other app's won't come to froint either mush is like locked for som e reason
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: for chrome, try searching for an extension that would make it stay in front -- I believe there's available one
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindayne Tech: nodnod trying now
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: uh
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: what aoric said makes no sense
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: the chrome extension that makes the browser stay in front of mushclient?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: how does the mushclient mapper know how to lay out the rooms in the map window? I tried looking through fiendish's aard_GMCP_mapper.xml but couldn't see anything in there that looked like it did that, unless I just missed it or something
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Athlau Tech: fiendish will tell better... but it just uses patches when overlap is detected
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok so here's a (maybe) hard question: what algorithm, given a start point (x,y) where x and y are both integers, and the minimum and maximum allowed values for x and y, will return a list of integer (x,y) points that represents am arithmetic/Archimedean spiral moving outwards from the start point to the edges?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: you just need your degrees of procession along the curve and a shape parameter to calc that
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: let me rephrase the question then
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: you can do it with just radians and the starting and ending position
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah no that's not gonna work for me, let me rephrase
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I've got a grid of 100 by 100 boxes, and a starting box position (x,y). What algorithm will give me a list of (x,y) boxes to search, spiralling out from the starting box?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: couldnt you use the same idea (radians, start, end positions) and scale the spiral by the width of the boxes to get pseudo-even coverage?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: there must be something I'm not understanding then, because I don't think I see how that works
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: the issue is that the amount the spiral travels in x and y is not the same as the discrete units of the boxes, so you have to make some decisions about how you want to sample your points on the spiral
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: but from a math view its not so hard, just apply a spiral to a piece of graph paper and work out a heuristic that scales the distance of each progressive step
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh!
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: theres likely an acceptable max for the grid space, so some discrete calc will work to map back, you'll just have to use floor() or ceil() to identify the discrete x,y and localize down to each box
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah like I said I'm using a grid of 100,100 size so the bounds are 0-100 on each axis
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: but what you said about drawing it on graph paper gives me an idea, I can just look up an algorithm for actually drawing a spiral on the screen
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: and box edge size 1 with a padding distance between boxes that is 0?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: just make a spiral in a unit square and scale it up
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: scale up the values rather, to determine which boxes are in the path
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: all you'd really have to do with the unit square is plot the spiral, then sample the points that are derived from box centers, use the x or y coordinates of the centers to find the points that are closest to the spiral
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: turns out I'm a dumbass, there's a much better and easier way to calculate it - concentric squares
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: wow SnD was totoally wrong, didn't even have the right location as an unlikely
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley peers intently at Selitos.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's unhelpful, and now I'm sad because I don't know what it was totally wrong on. :(
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: it had my kobold forman in hawklord, never even suggested it was proba in siege
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: but i killed him now so hopefully the database update will help next time i have that mob
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: just surprised is all rarely is the plugin totally wrong on a mob
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That's odd, though, because it should have looked at the area ranges and determined it COULD be in siege, too. Very weird.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: usualy when the primary guess is wrong the unlikely one is right
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: in this case it didn't even have an unlikely guess
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: why does my chrome crash all the time now. is my pc dying
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: chrome is a memory hog
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: and if you don't close it from the systray it might still be keeping itself open
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: even when it's got no window visible
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: right click the systray icon and uncheck the "let this run in the background" or smth, and it may help. but if it's open perpetually it will just get cranky over time
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: chrome occasionally does weird things for me too, it just stops responding and eventually it kills windows entirely... have to hit the power switch. not frequent, but it happens sometimes
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: you guys hacked me, i went to systray to close it and mu pc blue screened!
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett flexes his muscles...what a stud!?!
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: what was the blue screen code
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: lol
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}# Burning Myth Tech: chrome usually shuts down completely when you click "..." (3 vertical dots) in the top-right corner of any chrome window, and then "Exit"
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: 0xBLAMEANSSETT prob
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: t anssett Thanks for convincing him to do that... it was easy to backdoor my way in!
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Whoops.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: reply any time brah
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: dangit
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: optimising map layouts automatically is hard
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: How do I clear mapper cexits in a room?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Go to the room, right-click and delete exits.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(1672) Kanaye Tech: Use the map. Right clock the room
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: read mapper help exits :D
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Thank you
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: How does one transfer all aliases/triggers from one copy of mush to another.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cat Lord: Lejaguar Tech: Can anyone explain why another version of mushclient is having trouble finding constence.lua? I think the problem has to do with having downloaded mushclient and accidnetally putting it in program files folder, so I deleted the version that was in program files, because msuchclient kept trying to look for files in there instead of its own folder. But after deleting that, it said it was having trouble finding constence.lua.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Why does my mapper not know any rooms in bloodlust?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: transfer all aliases/triggers, can copy the mcl file, or select them all in the window and do a save
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: bloodlust and mapper? no idea. didn't i make you drag me there like 2 days ago? there should be some rooms unless you deleted the area from the mapper
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talbor Tech: or restored an older backup
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: or that yea
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Bloodlust is pretty straight forward. Just walk around to map it. There's only, like, one key, I think?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and a custom exit, plus the aq stuff, but otherwise very simple
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and full of bandits
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: bastards
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: =h
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: What is the shortcut command in Crossover/Wine to scroll to the bottom of the MUSH main window?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Crowley, I don't know what you did or how you made it happen that all my stuff works now.. But ever since talking to you, my stuff has loaded properly when loading Mushclient. You got skills yo! lol
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incensed Xamael Tech: that's love
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: lol I guess so. dang.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I was wondering, is there some way or some site where you can actually test triggers?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: you can simulate mud output in the client
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: ctrl shift f12
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: ah, ok. thanks.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: you can also use the ... echo? i think command
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yea. similar thing, server-side
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: you can also use the Simulate function in addition to CTRL SHIFT F12 GUI
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: for testing, Simulate() better than Echo
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: ok, that's cool. Not used to having a client that can test that stuff. That's pretty cool and very helpful.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: you know u can also send Simulate via the command line too?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: i do now
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: how does that work? Just type simulate() at the command line?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: by default, it is starting the line with (3) slashes like \\\Simulate("Novius rules") Note()
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: oh ok
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i like forcing a new line coz sometimes Simulate and the MUSH output don't play well and a new line isn't forced. other ways to force a new line
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I wrote an alias to simulate the #echo command from zMUD/CMUD days, and add color. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I just didn't want to be "spammy" to the mud, it's nice there's some ways to test that stuff without getting spammy in the mud
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: SHIFT+CTRL+6 is where you can change the \\\ prefix
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: By the way, you can do: \\\Simulate("This is a simulated line!\n") and it'll add the new line. No need for Note().
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: yah, that is the other way for new line
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In an alias, it has to be \\n, though.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, command line: \n. Alias, \\n.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: that's interesting, but ok
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I wonder why we can get away with one slash but in an alias it's two?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Which I didn't know, so thanks for that tidbit.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Probably has to do with how MUSH reads aliases.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Makes sense.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Never bothered to learn the reason behind it. Fiendish probably knows.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: \ it often times a character that needs to be escaped
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: the XML processor adds an extra interpretation step
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I figured it had to do with xml. And there you have it.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Novius sighs, part time tweaking stuff and being nerdy, part time gaming... it's hard to be a nerdy gamer some days.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Nothing critical of course, just a random thought.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: there are a number of areas where you just kinda have to be aware of the differences in how mushclient is reading the content of what you type and where it's going and so on
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: like the &gt; thing if you're not inside CDATA
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I'm slowly working on being more familair with lua as well, that's helping a lot.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: the &gt is the worst. makes stuff hard to read
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orphean Tech: Reading through that mudlet issue was a very frustrating experience.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: at least it's possible to enclose sections in CDATA tags to remove the need for &gt; and to use > again
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: that's completely an XML problem
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1337 H4x0r Fiendish nods at Orphean.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: it frustrates me because I really want to be able to say "mudlet is better now. let's all use it"
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: pass the torch, so to speak
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but not if they make decisions like that
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ogreskull Tech: feature request: just use json and the blockchain , that's how the pros do it
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Aardcoin
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Each coin is backed by 1000 pups, as proof of work
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Is that one of the reasons why people will add their triggers/aliases manually in the CDATA vs the <aliases> <trigger> sections?
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: but it's possible to put CDATA sections anywhere, so that's kind of a mistake
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: there are good reasons to use the alias/trigger <send> block vs the <script> section related to timing of when those different sections are actually run
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: though most of the time it doesn't matter which one you use
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure I could explain off the top of my head the exact circumstances where it actually matters, but I know they exist and I've run into them
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: i like your answer more than mine, which was ppl wanted to be annoying and make their code harder to read
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: I only want my code to be more fun to write
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: to hell with the rest of you
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: that is what i think about you every time i lose a GQ because the mapper took 3000x longer than the secret mapper codes :)
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: One day someone will release a "jailbroken mapper" plugin in public and everyone will use it and fiendish will be sad
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: nah, I'll just do something else
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I probably could find one if I really searched around but I'm happy with my GQ winrate so I'm lazy
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ingenue Alison settles down for a quick snooze.
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: alison, you and i both failed with GQs. The pro move is to win fewer than 100 and participate in more GQs. That's the jailbreak
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: well, fewer than 10
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: look
T3/r7/2023-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}1337 H4x0r Fiendish Tech: oops
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: In mushclient, Is there any way to add personal info to the alias title if for example you wanted to add your own text to differentiate aliases aside from using different categories? (hopefully that makes some sense.)
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: where do you want this info to appear?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I was thinking like if you have a group of aliases, then if you wanted to sort things within that category, maybe addition info showing in the list of aliases that you could add somewhere with your own custom text.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: not quite what you're looking for but you could use labels
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Ok, I think you answered my question lol, sorry, don't always word my ideas or thoughts clearly
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I think you nailed it though.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gorsk bows deeply.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Just to clarify, using echo sends data to your main screen but only you see it?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: it
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: it's a server side
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoric Tech: you can see, but so can someone else
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: hey techies, i need help with a thing that i thought would be simple but i'm obviously missing something obvious
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: why wouldn't this work: if %1 = "MyVariableIsAString" then Send("DoTheMagicThing") end
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: as a trigger
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: should it not be ==
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: for an if statement
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: = is assignment, == is "equal to"
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedi Kandorr Tech: if ("%1" == "MyVariablesAString") 
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thank you so much :)
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incensed Xamael Tech: who set up the wrong certificate on aardwolf main website? O_O
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: operator error?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dar shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: oops, someone forgot a SAN
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: Alternative namestest.aardwolf.com testwiki.aardwolf.com   MISMATCH
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incensed Xamael Tech: is the common name that is wrong it should be aardwolf.com and it have test.aardwolf.com seems the test site ssl hmm
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incensed Xamael Tech: you can always use a wildcard certificate and it will works for a x number of subdomain without problem
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: yeah, i was gonna say, might be time to upgrade to a wildcard
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'm pretty sure he knows about a wildcard operator
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But for some reason security folks don't love them
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: only cause they make holes LOL
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolvos Tech: idk, i'm skimming articles on it and all the downsides to wildcards certs are "if someone gets a coppy of your cert, you're in trouble!" which like...duh? if someone compromises your non-wildcard cert you're in trouble too
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incensed Xamael Tech: btw the site have some scripting issues too,somethin about a Uncaught (in promise) Error
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do you make an empty if clause in MUSH? "If X is true, then do nothing", else, do Y (actually doing something)? It seems to return an error if I try to. Do I just have to do Send("") or something?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}404 Eroe Tech: you don't. you test that x is not true.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: leave the block empty, shoudl be fine
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: you should probably change your condition to x is not true
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: but you can also .. that
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj nods at 404 Eroe.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The problem is that when I make it so X **is** true, it just returns an error.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: or a do while loop LOL
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: You can really just do if x then else do this end.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But you can do if not x then do y end.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: anyone know how to fix this with endymion's wind plugin?  cannot open C:\Program Files (x86)\MUSHclient\C:\Program Files (x86)\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\aardwolf_colors.lua: Invalid argument
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: uh i've never run aardmush out of program files. maybe permission problems
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: give it a valid argument? judges like those better
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: sounds like your problem is you have mushclient installed in program files
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it's n ot designed for that
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Permission issues suck.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: bleh brb
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: it's a long shot but.. is it possible to have diff font size for diff aardlayout setting?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hmm, don't know.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: you could probably setoption in a script to change the font size that also does an aard layout restore
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartan Tech: i was looking at the wrong plugin too just looking for a plugin to check which cards i'm missing for my first case
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: looks like you want output_font_height, mayyyybe
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yea
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Macbeth Tech: good idea anssett. will try
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: for a list of allll the options, /for k, v in pairs (GetOptionList()) do Note (v, " = ", GetOption (v)) end
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: (adjust prefix as needed)
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: what's the command to simulate mud output to start testing stuff?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Can't De Cide Tech: echo?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: Simulate()
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalut Tech: or just ctrl shift f12
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: thanks yall
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: is there a way i can make a command fire after a mapper goto room#?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: such as go to a shop, then after arrival, but a heal pot
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: buy *
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: you could use dinv to do it for you
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: for that particular ask, dinv can handle potion management
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korendir Tech: dinv help consume
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: oh thanks!
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: beyond that you could technically write a script/plugin to read gmcp data and determine when you've reached th eproscribed room
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i'm not sure how far down that rabbit hole you can go before it's technically botting tho
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: i was just looking for potion management, so this answers my question thank you!
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: A trip how one plugin can offer SO much extra for game play.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Busta Rhymes Tech: yeah i am not using it to its maximum potential
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: and extra windows.. which, Is there a good site or reference to how to create mini-windows? or is that possible?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: fiendish has a writeup on his github
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Ok, thanks
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: crowley here?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Maybe.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Depends why I need to be. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: he needs some help with medical charting
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i notice what i think is odd for SnD on the express mobs
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What's that?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: when it is normally running to a mob and i am stopped by aggroo, i can hit nx and continue on, but for express nx says no nexct room (or whatever) like it doesn't remember where you were going. you have to use xcp
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: I would think nx should work
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: That will require rewriting how xcp works in the first place.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: well for express it goes directly to the room instead of to the area first and then finding the room
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: The only time 'nx' works is when the room list is generated. Now, you can mapper resume and it should work. I'll look into making that change, though.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley nods.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: so just make esxpress set the room it was heading to
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: If we're bringing up SnD bugs, is there a reason why it freezes when I type xcp 1 after killing a GQ mob to go to the next mob, and I have to unfreeze it by entering a command (I usually use "l")?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: or i guess for express hack make the room list generate as the one room
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: That doesn't happen when I go on campaigns so I didn't think it was intentional
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: that doesn't happemn to me Alison
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: What do you mean it freezes? Is it only on gqs?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: it works for me on gq just fine
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Only on GQs
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i get the same behavior, i figured it was antibotting technology (tm) or something
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's because Alison has compact and omits blank lines.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Freezes as in, the next mob is highlighted orange in the miniwindow, but it refuses to actually go there until I enter in a command
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I 99.9% guarantee that's the reason.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Ah, I see
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: This is like the, uh... 12th? Bug I've discovered because I have compact mode on
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, I have to figure out how to accommodate for that.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: I'm on a crusade to make sure plugin authors make their plugins compatible with compact
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah mine doesn
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Selitos, do you have compact mode off? Anssett, do you have compact mode on?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Just to check
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: yea i run compact too
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: not sure how do i tell?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's not even just compact mode. I have compact on. I think you also have Omit_blank_lines, too.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Yeah. The less blank space on my screen, the more I can fit into it. 
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: does have blank lines
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It's the Omit_blank_lines plugin that does it, I think.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i don't >think< i have omit on but i don't reclal
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Looks like we've found the issue, Crowley. Get to work!
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ingenue Alison flicks her whip across (Aleister) Crowley's bare back. 
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: (In all seriousness, do it whenever you want. I appreciate you making plugins for free.)
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i have no such plugin
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yeah i do not have compact set
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I don't know what Anssett's problem is, but he's the anomaly. *shifty* I blame Anssett.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: and i do see blank lines sometimes so if i have that plugin, it's not working anyway haha
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: ha
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ingenue Alison Tech: Anssett is definitely an anomaly. Whenever I try to kill the fractal anomaly, I end up attacking him instead. :/
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it's not just you ali :(
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Hence why I said that. :p
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: I legit spent 2 minutes trying to figure out why I wasn't attacking the anomaly last time...
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: it works FINE for me but then everybody else starts looking at me
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheesy Anssett snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheesy Anssett Tech: i just got near a room and wait for somebody to yell which dir now :p
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Aleister) Crowley snickers softly.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Do you have to be in the shop where you get a potion in order for 'dinv consume add..'?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: Even if I have that potion in my inventory?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[LION] VaalVanir Tech: that is also how DINV rememebrs the location of the shop for you to buy it on dinv command.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: ah.. ok, that makes sense. Still getting used to having all these extra tools.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: To clarify, when adding a potion.. the <type> is whatever I title that category for that potion, yes?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: If that makes sense. Sorry.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: The potion I want to add is a 'flying' potion, so can I set my type to 'Fly'?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novius Tech: I got it..
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: can i do a find replace on commands i type?
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: In an alias, sure.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Or as an alias, sure.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: i have a nasty habbit of typing don;t whan i really mean don't and i love to be able to replace when i mistype it
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: especcially since ; is my line break
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Eh, you might be better off with a third-party app like authotkey or espanso.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But you could do * don;t * and do Send("%1 don't %2")
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: As an alias, anyway.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: ok
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Should work, at any rate. I do that for my bags (bag_1, bag_2, bag_3, expand out to bag1 bag2 bag3)
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: Er, whoops, apparently not in that case.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: But it does expand them to their IDs.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: don
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: nope didn't work
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: It may be because MUSH interprets the ; before the alias.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Aleister) Crowley Tech: So, in that case, might need to look into espanso or autohotkey.
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Selitos Tech: yup
T3/r7/2023-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Selitos may just have to start typing out do not