T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Anyone know a website you can download "Game of Thrones" episodes from, without a subscription?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: I have downloaded mushclient from aard homepage but it doesnt work. It gives me a message about being unable to open global preferences database. What to do?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Now that sounds weird!
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Did you unzip it properly?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: what you mean by 'properly'? Just unzipped it on desctop, thats all
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, that sounds good. The other option would have been running it directly from the Zip file without unpacking, which would not have worked.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: perhaps it's the UAC? try run as admin?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: As it is... Fiendish, the maintainer of Aardwolf MUSHclient isn't here at the moment. Maybe try downloading & unzipping it again?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: Im only user on this computer. I guess I am admin by default?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hmm, Stanislav, a Russian name. Perhaps your desktop sits in a cyrillic-named home folder?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: That might cause some problems.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: or might not, I don't know.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: try to see if there's any such options when you right-click the executable
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: nope, cizra. have english version of windows and folder names
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: UAC is applicable even if you're admin, unless you disable it
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: how to disable it?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: it tells me to check write access on some file
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: you might not want to since it offers protection against unknown software installing itself, but i remember you can choose run as admin when you right-click....
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: shouldn't UAC only be a problem if in C:\Program Files?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i would have expected the opposite, but i have no idea
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: thanks guy. i've just moved it to c: and it worked
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: how to remove color codes from mush client? I have installed a plugin and it turned all colorful things to something like   etc
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: remove the plugin? you can also disable colors mudside
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: and gave a message- Colors will now be displayed showing actual color codes.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: err, i want to keep the plugin but want colors back to normal too :)
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: looks like the plugin i've installed have turned actual colors into color codes, showing me color codes with @ before every word. Any way to turn it back?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Can I do a mysql query straight from the mush command line?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: not without a plugin
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and msuh uses sqlite
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Ah, OK.  :)
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: I'm having some weird with bast's eqlu and wanted to look at the DB.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you want to open the database.. i cannot recommend enough using "sqlite Expert Personal"
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: how can i assign a new macro in Mush?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> macros
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're looking for a macro that's a different set of keys, then you really want accelerators and not macros
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: right, but how do i use a key that isnt already on the list
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish's site, click wiki, click MUSHclient guide, click writing macros...you want the more powerful and complex way
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: I'll give 5,000,000 gold to the first person who can successfully "fix" the following line to work for the newest aardmush upgrade: key = string.gsub(key, "[%*%%%!%?%(%)%&%.%,%
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: e
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Omg, what a bot
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: it cut off :P
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Granola snickers softly.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Don't help her everyone, she is trying to bot!
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: i am not -.-
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: key = string.gsub(key, "[%*%%%!%?%(%)%&%.%,%;%:%'\"%^%#%*", "")
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: hah there we go
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Can I have 5M for the moral support?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: didn't i fix this one already?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: no...5 million gold :)
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: no it didnt work
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: that was the line you gave me
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah i recognize it
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: waht error does it throw?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: and when i take the line out...the plugin disappears altogether!
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: can iuse pastebin?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: issue is that the LUA JIT compiler has been upgraded and no longer supports the old escape characters
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: sure
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: http://pastebin.com/P9hXs69R
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: well..is that fixable?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh easy..
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: key = string.gsub(key, "[%*%%%!%?%(%)%&%.%,%
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: key = string.gsub(key, "[%*%%%!%?%(%)%&%.%,%;%:%'\"%^%#%*]", "")
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: ok lemme try 1 sec:)
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: OMG
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: i love you
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: heh
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: come 2s
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle tickles Granola.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Granola looks at WinkleWinkle and swoons in ecstasy.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: she says that to all the guys.. and girls
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: now feel cheap iceman! :D
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: idk...he fixxed my gq plugin :) i feel like i owe him my life :P
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Gqs are the lifeblood of us all!
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: is there a way to set an alias with a variable, then have it output certain things depending on what the contents of the variable area?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: are*
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: like a small if/else statement.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you want to change "send to" to script
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and then?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: check expand variables maybe
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: then look up a Lua example of an if ..else.. statement
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and write that ifelse statement in the output?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if ("yVar" == "WW rawks") then ...  else ... end
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if ("@myVar" == "WW rawks") then ...  else ... end
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or be more explicit in what you're looking to do, you may be overcomplicating it ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Well i have a Bring be back alias
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i type bmb and it takes takes my academy portal and brings be back to recall
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: then i have a variable set after bmb that if i type "bmb gaardian" then it runs me to gaardian
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have just like that
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have one just like that
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i want to make it so that if i type "bmb qp" then i go to the questor 2e of recall
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: but there's no runto questor 2e of recall
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper goto 28580
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shouldn't need to be manually going to recall only to go where you really want to go...
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yeah, So i would have to use my ifelse statement right?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: but abe, if i'm done with the quest i want to be able to type bmb qp from the area i'm at and run straight to the questor
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what the mapper is designed to do, vadar
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: from anywhere to anywhere...you don't tell it to go somewhere you don't want to go in order to go where you want to go
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I understand, but i'd still want to recall first. for sake of speed.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just tell it where you really want to go, it'll get you there
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you tell the mapper how to recall..it'll do that
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so... what do i do then?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if the academy portal is in the mapper, it'll use it
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: How do i tell the mapper to academy portal,d,2e
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd suggest heading to fiendish's page, click wiki, what's included, featured plugins, look over the gmcp mapper page, and follow the link to Hosch's tips on using the mapper
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Vadar.. you dont' want to be recalling every portal
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: my wiki as well has an example script for using portals in mush mapper
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: nah i really dont
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: All i want is to be able to type "bmb qp" and runto the questor 2e of recall.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: But since i have a "bmb *" alias already, there has to be an easy way to set up my "bmb qp" alias.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: then you want to find questor's room number and "mapper goto 12345"
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Does anyone has a script to play my character while I am holiday? Thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i think Astrella does
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Yeah, i'm pretty sure one of the imms has it. Ask them.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ystia Tech: How do I get MC to remember where I placed the windows between stopping and starting it, please?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ystia, file -> save world
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ystia Tech: Tar
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Bast's eq plugin just went wacky on me and was giving every line a red-background error Trigger function "identify_redirect" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: find the original error
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: I've disabled it for now, any ideas what happened?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: scroll back
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: then restart mush. see if that fixes it
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: OK, way up it looks like.  Attempt to index global 'cmddict'.  Gives me something to start with.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Thanks.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the very first error should describe what went wrong...at that point, MUSH basically half-disables it, and that half-disabling is what causes the flood of other messages
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Does anyone mind answering some questions about Lua, or is there a good resource to look up?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lua-org is a good resource to look up, for lua on its own
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient.com or mushclient helps are a good place to look for how to use lua with mushclient
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Cool.  Thanks - the mushclient.com/scripting and the lua docs are being good places to start.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, you can learn a lot by downloading and checking out how other plugins work...start with the simpler ones & work your way up
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: any idea why i can't open mapper db in an sqlite manager?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im using sqliteman btw
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: No reason. It should open.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Is Aard running
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: none.. try using "Sqlite Expert Personal"
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im opening a backup file
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've found a great divide in quality of sqlite programs
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Try the Linux command-line sqlite client (=
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: even with aard running should be no problem
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: cizra, why would it make a difference?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: It shouldn't, unless your manager is buggy.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I'm just recommending it because it's the only thing I've tried.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh, the internal design of these asus barebones units hasn't changed in 8 years
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: well im managing other sqlite databases as well.  its only the backup file im not opening.  the aardwolf.db itself is opening so is other databases. 
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its not compressed too.  im just wondering what could be wrong. :)
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you renamed the file?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not named .db, perhaps that tool cares
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: tried renaming it to aardwolf.db as well.  but it doesn't really matter
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its opening .sqlite. sqlite3 .db no extensions just fine.  ill try to get a newer version and check it out
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: DatabaseBrowserPortable works fine on the main or any backups that I've tried
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bull & Jam Arystul Tech: whats the best way to download free music? :P
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: illegally
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: http://thepiratebay.org
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: stuff your jacket pockets with CD from virgin megastore
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bull & Jam Arystul Tech: I always found piratebay to be a bit of a pain in the butt
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: go get a job
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: and pay for it
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: scrub
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: If you think piratebay is a pain, you should probably just buy music.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bull & Jam Arystul Tech: Personal attacks on tech is allowed since when?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bull & Jam Arystul Tech: I say its a pain because I always have to try downloading the smae thing like 15 times
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: since you're blatently asking about doing something that is illegal in most countries in the world?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: -=h 10
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: There is no real reason you should be trying to download something 15 times as a torrent.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: Something that shouldn't be illegal in my opinion :P
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: It's painfully obvious which torrents are legit.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: And which torrents have seeds.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: discussing how to obtain stuff illegally on tech is also not allowed via mud policy
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: The next step is Usenet - but if you have troubles w/ torrents setting up usenet is like the next tier up.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: check the band's website - often you can download it free
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: if the music isn't available in your country then i understand, but, at least for music, that's rarely the case
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: and the music is usually available for a whole album at 10$, which is fairly inexpensive when you consider buying it from the store is usually 15-20$
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bull & Jam Arystul Tech: except I want like 1 song off each cd, so if I want 200 songs I'm spending 2k on cd's I don't think so :p
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just do a discography search on torrents and be done
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: learn to convert streams to mp3...
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: go use Pandora then
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: Welcome to iTunes where you can buy music by the song!
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: buy them one at a time off amazon mp3...
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: So sell the CDs back to 2nd hand stores?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: .. and which doesn't work on Linux.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: there are numerous legal, and low cost options for music these days
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bull & Jam Arystul Tech: thats a lot of effort to get music onto my ipod tonight :P
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: i love spotify
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: so is download 200 albums
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ...
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Grooveshark?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: iTunes is like the least possible effort to get music straight to your ipod :p
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: buying music off itunes for your ipod is A LOT faster than illegal music downloading...
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: and 99 cents a song.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: listen to the music and encode an mp3 by writing it out in binary
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: yeah thats why i dont have an ipod :)   
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: I think Grooveshark is being sued for 5 billion dollars.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bull & Jam Arystul Tech: except I'm not trying to spend money :P
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: spotify is free if you can stand an add or two
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: They didn't clear any of the licenses for the music they're streaming.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah spotify is good.. pandors.. the61
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: and no one here is going to really help you since you've already demonstrated that you have no real interest in putting forth effort for what you want
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: who didnt?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: who did waht now?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: who didnt clear any licenses?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: I like Pandora - they have a very good algorithim that can suggest decent music that is similar to what you prefer.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: 1) form a band 2) write songs 3) record them! 4) free music!!!!
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Grooveshark failed to clear licenses so they're being sued.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: ahh .... not a good move at all
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: oh, that reminds me.  Spotify is getting rid of their free unlimited thingie.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hmm, so the solution to prevent sharing music 'illegally' is to make companies who try to do so bankrupt by paying licensing fees to already rich record labels?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Yeah all services dropped it down to 10hours per month.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bull & Jam Arystul Tech: waffles my ipod is very lo-tech I'd love to be able to use pandora or zanga, but I don't have wifi at work, which is why I need to put music onto an ipod, otherwise I'd use an old smartphone or something (don't have unlimited data)
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: huh? i work for the biggest record company in the world its not that rich and licensing pays the most to the artist who always say they get ripped off
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: record companies are in dying and trying to do anything they can to keep going with an outdated business model
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: so buy music off itunes!
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Yeah which is hilarious because it's been proven that users that share tend to 1) increase sales 2) spend more on media consumption.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: If they actually could adapt their business models properly instead of fighting.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: i am willing to spend money on bands i like, but i want to sample before a while to make sure it is worth the money
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: record companies ahve a stake in spotify...streaming just like tv was once free is the future...the big record companies are trying to get get all the catalog they can for streaming
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: speaking as an american
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: mt
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: i agree...nothing wrong with promotion...i have never seen it prooven that illegal music increases sales
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: I'm the only person I know IRL who pays for everything they download or use.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: i also agree the big labels screwed themselves and are outdated
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: i do too
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: the only real reason piracy thrives so well is because companies have resisted allowing consumers to get what they want in the way they want it
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: could you imagine if holywood had embraced the internet instead of shunned it?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: I think at this point music sharing is so rampant that the odds of people ever stopping are slim to none
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, the music companies had it good off me in the vinyl, cassette, and early cd's age
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: i agree with the record labels fighting back on it...I can also explain it but it was dumb
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if a band is good, i'll probably go see them at some point, which is worth more than any number of their cd's i could buy
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: record contracts pay 50% net receipts for licensed products as opposed to 16% of retail price for regular sales. When you could put 1 good song on a cd and sell it for $16 bucks record labels did well.  Just like most companies they fight to keep the status quo instead of innovating
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah Status Quo were a good band
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: the internet made their business model obsolete and the government is just trying to help them keep a bad design alive
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: they are accepting (because they have too) that streaming catalog rights will be the future so they are starting to get on board but you have old dog CEO's that made a name for themselves in that old market and dont know how to innovate
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: are we talking about SOPA?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i'm pretty sure SOPA/PIPA was written by the MPAA not the RIAA (though no doubt they paid big bucks to the senators/congressman to encourage it)
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: SOPA is dead, PIPA is dead.  Both were reincarnated in secret in ACTA, which doesn't require congressional approval.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: ACTA predated SOPA/PIPA
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: sopa is an other example of the same mindset tho
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: the criminality put forth in SOPA is crazy in my opinion.  Its like the drug war...completely out of touch with reality
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you can't expect democracy to produce good laws
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: jesus christ
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: the RIAA doesnt mean crap its just a certifying agency that is headed by the big record labels
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: the RIAA has *alot* of money though and can act pretty much without interference from teh government (as shown when they sue folks for damages that are criminal in and of themselves)
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: the radio companies are the biggest thiefs.  In foreign countries radio play = payment.  Radio gets free product under the guise of promotion
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: when the RIAA acts its the record labels acting without taking the blame
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: the RIAA is a figurehead org...it has no power or money that the record labels dont provide
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: Spotify type usage will be the future. You will subscribe to a label's catlogue for $5 - $10 a month and use it on all your devices just like an HBO or SHowtime
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: if i was an aspiring musician today i would make my own album, invest some money in a marketing company and not mess with record labels.  they are not necessary except for the initial exposure.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: they should start doing that with cable channels, pay for what you want a la carte.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: make it all on-demand.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: you still need a record label for promotion and distribution ...many will say no but how many indy acts hit it big?  less than 3% of radio play
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: Joethere, that's what we call netflix/hulu plus. except holywood is still resisting
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: if you are about music and not money a small fair indy label is a good bet
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: that is why i have netflix and just use an antenna otherwise
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: None the Wyza nods at Joethered.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: haven't had sat/cable for 2 years.  never regretted it
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: they do that now...HBO GO....
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: other than the discovery channel
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: i miss football sometimes, but only for a few months.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: and what did HBO do? they told netflix they are getting no more content...the same as the record labels. They want to set up their own proprietary distribution
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: yeah, we're gonna have 50 different methods of getting our content, all charging seperate rates, all using different technologies, and its gonna be a nightmare for the tech world
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: yeah but you would think the most popular will win out just like VHS squashed beta
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no, I mean EVERYTHING.  Local channels, movies, sitcoms, reruns and syndicated crap, basically anything that isn't an infomercial.  Free up all that wasted time and space from commercials.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: one difference here ucla
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: we have fios but mainly watch netflix and hulu now...streamed to our big screen wirelessly
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: software is much easier to produce than hardware as far as getting it into the masses hands
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: it is infeasable to have more than 1 content type per generation in physical media, completely feasible to have multiple ones in software
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: look at browsers, as a perfect example
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: i agree but dont you think it will all run through a computer like device
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: yes, it will, but they'll all have their own UI.  it'll drive customers nuts, but since holywood is made up of a bunch of control freaks, they'll never get the message
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: i think there will be a merger between tv and computer so things stream better
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: i think your tv and phone will be computers in the future....you will have a dock or a screen in every room with a keyboard like tablets
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: that seems likely
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: I get that but thats someone elses problem im just the attorney not the tech :)
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: err, you're a little behind the times, aren't you?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: who?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: dokkar, you can do what he is saying now, but not everyone can afford that level of interaction just yet, nor is it super simple for the lamen just yet.  Its getting there though...
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: instead of having a computer attached to a tv it will be all-in-one instead of the tv being a monitor
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: technology is becoming crappy, you mean
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: thats what i mean ...like a tablet but a tv size one in every room
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: You might be surprised how inexpensive it is, Wyza. People are intimidated by Apple's product pricing, yet I affordably have a setup like that at home with nothing but apple products
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: apple tv is the key :D
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: my wii is how i do things
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: i use a netbook and tablet and stream stuff wirelessly all over my house (I have a work laptop and desktop too)
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: heck, we already have smartphone-sized mobile televisions and even without those smartphones are jacked up enough now that you can do it all from that device.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: we have all tv streamed online here already, don't need no apple to sort it
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: i have the sony netflix streamer too
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: buy a couple of flatscreens, an apple tv for each one, and an iphone 4s or an ipad 2. 
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: i use my phone to stream wireless too
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: i just mirror everything off my phone and ipad onto the tvs
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i just have a pc hooked up via hdmi, then i can watch anything i want.  no need to impose apples limitations on it
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: right, there's lots of ways to go about it, but what I'm saying is that even with apple's product pricing scales I'm able to do everything I want for very little investment
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: i would prefer 1 device instead of putting multiple ones together :o)
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: I have the hdmi hookups and a wireless streamer with bluetooth dongle
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: it's not expensive to have your home set up like that
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Why don't you guys move off into Debate?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: cause this isn't a debate?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you can get smart tv's that stream already
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: its discussing technology in the home?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: because this is a tech discussion?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hm. To me "tech" sounds like "tech support".
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: tech covers all aspects of technology
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: well, your ears are awful
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: but not stream everything ...Is there a TV that accesses the internet via browser all by itself?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so if modern tv's stream, and wii's stream, and ps3 streams, why do we need an apple product?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archangel Trihex Tech: i would rather have an all in one
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: no one said you needed an apple product
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra gouges around in his right ear. A lump of wax falls out.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: they have internet tvs, but I never looked closely at them
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: good because i don't
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: i no longer use apple products i use android products
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: it was stated that it's extremely expensive to set your home up like that, and i explained that even with apple's pricing schemes it's easy to set your home up like that in an affordable way
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: and apple is typically the most expensive option
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: how's it like having Google as a voyeur?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: better than apple :)
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Apple should have gone out of business at the end of the 90's
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archangel Trihex Tech: apple is high quality, but as stated before, it has limitations
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: about the same has having apple as one
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: I work for Apple. There's a reason we're the most valuable company on earth, Starling
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: yep...perception and marketing
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: If you think we should have gone out of business, you don't know anything about business :p
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Because you sell overpriced junk?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're not the most valuable company on the earth
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i've always found apple's products to be solid, overpriced, but solid
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: Yes, we are. We passed exxon this month
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: thats true too...they are not the most vaulable
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archangel Trihex Tech: i'm pretty sure Apple is the most valuable company on earth
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: apple is good but you can do the same for cheaper
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: We're absolutely the most valuable/wealthiest company on earth.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: only by market value
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not by net work
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: and apple was failing in the 90s until jobs came along and started enslaving chinese children
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: net worth
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it doesn't hurt that your company embraces piracy and theft as it tries to make things less hassling for the user.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottdecarlo/2011/08/11/the-worlds-25-most-valuable-companies-apple-is-now-on-top/
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: looks like he/she is right
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: unless forbes is telling fibs
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: We make most of our money from mobile devices and iTunes. Clearly we embrace piracy and theft.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fnord grins evilly at Viscount Droki.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: the appstore is pure theft 
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I've never used an Apple product I liked.  Everything they make is complete garbage.  It's a shame the company didn't die out it like it should have.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: At least Jobs is dead.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: That's a start. Now let's PK Droki.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: You're in the minority. Also, you appear to be an awful person.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: i just looked it is the most valuable based on market share as of january 25th...that should tell you something....who are the others ? crooks
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I think you are ignorant starling
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: apple caused everyone else to raise their game, that's a good thing
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: you cant say that something is garbage because YOU dont like it
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: actually, Holliday, you can
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: there are numerous accounts of applications getting submitted to the appstore, being rejected, then magically appearing with the exact same application a few months later from apple.  the dev gets nothing, apple gets the money
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: i do agree with the raise game comment ....
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I mean come on, explain to me why you can't drag and drop onto an ipod touch?  WHY must we use itunes, an all around terrible program, to update it?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I can sneak into my neighbor's house, take off with his new ipad, head over to the nearest Apple store, and have them make me the new owner no questions asked.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: You'll have to show me those Apps, Wyza. We only own a couple dozen apps.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: any major corporation is about $ and screwing everything in its path ....end of story ....apple is not different we just like what they got the market to put out
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I could probably do that in a DIY sense for pretty much any device, but Apple techs working on apple products don't void any warranties. :P
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm no great fan of Richard Stallman either, but I agree with his sentiment about Jobs being gone.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: Yeah, from what I can tell you're just a bad person. 
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Because I'm glad Jobs is dead?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: apple can only make things in a tightly controlled environment so soccer moms can use them and they reach the biggest market....thats why you cant drag and drop...my inspire 4g was $50 bucks and already did everything an apple 4s did for $150 less
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: you made your inspire connect to the apple store :)
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: Yeah. Because whether you like Apple products or not, Steve Jobs was a gamechanger who pushed the tech on the market to a different level, and losing him cuts that down some.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Yes, why the ridiculous obsessing over what people do with their computers?  Apple is the North Korea of the computer world, it might have some decent stuff, but it's all under lock and key, and damned be you if you decide you want to use it for something they don't agree with.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Jobs was nothing buit a thief.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: If anybody should be respected, it's Steve Wozniak, not Jobs.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: You've got some strong but misguided opinions.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a thief? did he steal something?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Actually, he did stiff Wozniak out of some cash, but he generally copied other people's ideas and passed them off as his own.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: http://www.tuaw.com/2011/06/06/what-ios-5-owes-to-jailbreak-developers/
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: yep...its just called "market" or 
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: "amazon store" same apps without 300,000 fart apps
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: All he did was market a product, he is no visionary, he should not be venerated.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: everything i've read about jobs that wasn't from fanbois points to a very angry, slave driving person
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: Think what you will. I already decided you were insane when you started celebrating his death.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: he also had a lot of issues...eating and dressing issues...quite a disturbed person
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm waiting for 'alternative lifestyle' to come out of the woodwork sometime soon
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: did you know he parked in a handicapped spot for years by trading in his car every 6 months so it never had official plates?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: i respect the guy as a salesman.  But just like apple suing samsung...who makes the chips? Apple is suing because someone else came out with a black tablet about the same size?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Did you hear about the time he messed with some guy and basicaly misled him to believe he would be the next CEO of Apple?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is that likely?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Then called him the day before he was supposed to start and said "Don't come to Apple, if you do you will be asked to leave, and if you don't you will be arrested."
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: some say that the 9/11 attack was masterminded by the american government
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Yeah, Jobs was a real stand-up guy.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: Apple is now in the realm of GE and Oil companies...you get there by being nice....
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: i meant to say dont get there by being nice
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: He was an overall rotten individual and we are all better off with out him, his terrible products, and his bad influence on computing in general.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there's no such thing as a bad influence in computing, just bad influences in society
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and there's no worse influence in society than government
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: i still would not celebrate his death...their are few people I would say that of ....Hitler for instance
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: Bad influence in computing in general. So yeah, you're insane, and going on ignore for being obtuse enough to think one of the two guys who invented the personal computer are a bad influence on computing.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: That's not true.  BASIC is a bad influence in computing.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: He did not invent the personal computer
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Wozniak might have, Jobs didn't.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: See you on channel history then :)
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: And I'll bet a bunch of people at PARC would take serious exception to that laying of credit...
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: Apple under Jobs = Microsoft under Bill Gates done right.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: i disagree about it not being possible to be a bad influence (not that i agree he was) ...people are easily duped...Nike doesnt make the best shoes, Windows was not the best OS, Beta was better than VHS...Fast food isnt even food....you can sell anything if you do it right
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: im too stupid to level and keep talking so im out
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: What do you have to do to get MUSH to reload a plugin after changing the xml?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: file -> plugins then find it and click reload plugin
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: any reason why mushclient would crash after next "SQL error on statement: "DROP TABLE IF EXISTS control;CREATE TABLE control(name VARCHAR(10) NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY, value INT NOT NULL );" database is locked......
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: it was total mushclient crash, not plugin etc.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: are there any mobkeys that reset across more than one area?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: no idea, never happened before
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: normally database lock would just error the plugin, but this one crashed whole program
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Installed some game a while back, that installed some Mumbojumbo crap onto my PC. I uninstalled the game, although my web browser is still using mumbo jumbo for something. Any ideas how to rid myself of it, once and for all?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is mumbojumbo a name or a description? have you looked for it in add/remove programs? have you tried disabling the plugin in your browser?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: when I do a search. It uses. http://mumbojumbo.start.iplay.com/ before the search
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, you can choose your "search provider" in settings
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's probably not a plugin or program, just that setting
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: k, ill look for it. Its interesting because when I removed the program it had gone away for a while, but recently came back.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tools -> internet options, click settings next to search (if msie)
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Using Mozilla, that lead me in the right direction... still tracking it down though.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Cant seem to find the settings to fix it. 
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Anyone familiar with Mozilla Firefox, can help to me stop firefox from using a Iplay websearch?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: using Windows 7
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You mean when you're doing a search in the navigation toolbar?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the top-right corner, where you can type searches...there's a drop-down at the logo
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: select that drop-down
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I open Mozilla, use the search that is in the middle of the screen. And it routes me through this. http://mumbojumbo.start.iplay.com/searchresults.aspx?o=chrome&q=greyhound
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it has presets for the usuals, and also manage search
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: tks Abe, gonna try it right now.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That sounds like it has more to do with what your homepage is set to.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Nothing I have changed so far, has prevented it ><
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Wouldnt mind, but my net is so slow... its just makes searching that much slower ><
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in mozilla's preferences, general pane, what does it say for "when firefox starts"?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: has anyone experienced the mapper using a portal not in 'mapper portals' automatically?  like 'mapper goto 31161' expecting to go 'kul tiras' instead will use a amulet of the planes portal
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: If going to that portal and then going to the area is quicker, it will do that.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: overlapping keywords, or an alias the mapper knows about
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: shortest path.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: Unless you're talking about your amulet not being set up as a portal.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: elan, the amulet of the planes is not listed as a handhelp portal
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that you know of :P
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper doesn't invent things
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Cant find the preferences. Although If I use the search engine in the top right, it works fine. Its the big search in the middle of the screen which is routing it through that damn company.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper was using a command you told it to use...
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Slodhian nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the big search in the middle of the screen is a web page, doink
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's set as your home page
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Slodhian bonks Doink on the head for being such an UTTER moron.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ahh, ill try to change it to google. Or does anyone have a better suggestion. Just looking for a fast simple, search.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I set my browser to open to "blank" rather than any homepage
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't get faster than that
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: abelinc, elan i understand that i just find it weird. will take screenshots
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: remember, gentoox, that the mapper doesn't really have portals
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: so, tools > options > general > homepage, just enter "blank" ?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it has aliases
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't know the names/keywords/etc of any portals
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: I think there is even button for it. set homepage blank. in all clients
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: Easiest thing to do might be to clear out the portal for whichever room you're being routed through and recreate it
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: elan i don't have any portals to amulet of the planes because i just got to level 25
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it entering pools 9, 12 or 13?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: or use portallevel to avoid using it too early
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: slodhian like i said its not listed at all
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: not even as cexit?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: nope
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Got it working right, thanks Abe, and everyone else. ^^
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't see it listed...
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: then you have done something really wrong.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: like i said. i just got to level 25.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: You've been there before though.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but what it says it's listing isn't what it's listing...it's only listing what it's been told...
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: Unless you didn't use the mapper last remort
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: The list you're talking about is from "mapper portals", right?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: mapper does what you tell it to do. it does not invent things. we would be in ww4 by now if it did :P
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the trouble with computers is they do what you say.. not what you mean
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: my 'mapper portals' http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=6562
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gentoox, try going somewhere and typing "mapper where 31161"
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: my 'mapper goto 31161' http://imagebin.org/196795
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: mapper where 31161 => portal strange metal amulet planes
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: portals
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, it's in your list
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: second-last
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: nod
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: see, it didn't make it up ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i didn't set it up though
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc begs to differ
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i know
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: are you using someone elses map?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't ship with it
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Slod - well i'm glad i set filter to *.* .. that SQL exists in mushclient.exe
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: yay :)
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so it looks like mush crashed itself with it's own sql error
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: chimeishio must be the time i learned about mapper portals
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i didn't even know this sql existed
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: I told one day, I am worst tester. I find bugs that doesnt exist
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thanks abelinc for mapper where command. i was looking for this. sort of a trace
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well you exceeded expectations today!
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, it's a nice command to keep handy
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: here it is in plain english. "mapper where <room id>         --> Show directions to a room number" and yet im looking for words like trace, debug, show speedwalk. lol
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: closely examine "mapper help"
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it has a LOT of gems
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nodnod, the list is so long, sometimes eyes glaze over before you reach that line ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it inspired me to have good help files
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: filter slodhian
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: just a hint for your guys :)
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: - h 10
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: fiendish are you around by chance?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes. .but i'm using my Alt WinkleWinkle
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: hah
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: heh
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: actually you might be able to help me too, but I was going to ask him for possible inclusion in a future build
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what are you after?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Maybe we're *all* Fiendish, multiplaying again.
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i think you have it fnord
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: would be awesome if i could have a command that would do mapper areas   ----- explored areas   then compare the too - so i could see the unexplored counts (not just the unmapped exits)
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: if that makes sense
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah i get that.. definitely in his domain
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: make that areas explored (had it backwords)
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: okay, so, my internet just dropped (I'm totally 'borrowing' someone's wireless) and i can't figure out what to do. last time this happened i somehow reset the ip or something similar and it started working again
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: but i cant figure out how to do that now! i'm using vista - any ideas?
T3/r6/2012-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eladrin Tech: hi
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: anyone here use Bast's spellup plugin?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: is there an xp/minute plugin somewhere?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's stuff has that
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Wow, facebook going public
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: how do I put back the ascii map and score on the right side?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elena Tech: In the standard MUSHclient?  Click near the top and drag them
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Syxteen, you here?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why not send him a tell?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Alias this "^\#([0-9]+) (.+)$" to  "for i = 1,%1 do Execute("%2") end"
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Enable the Regexp checkbox and Send to Script.
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: testport
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: i try to connect to testport
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: Tech then ask me for a password
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: i enter a password and it says authentication failed
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: only cool kids allowed
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: anyone want to help me with that?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: sigh
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: The testport is for testing the MUD, not testing your bots.
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: i dont use bots..
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: and please...i want a proper answer not a joke
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Maybe some joker has registered a character named Electrobite? Try registering a new one.
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: well...it only asks me for a password, not user name
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Maybe your MUD client sends the name?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: lemme see
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: nothing
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: requesting authentication
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: password send
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: then say i must put in password
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: i do it
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: and...authentication failed
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zopiclone Tech: are you sure you're logging onto the right place?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: aardmud.net right?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zopiclone Tech: check 'help newtester' and see if your settings are correct, it's a different port as well
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Electrobite hrmphs for no apparent reason.
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskew Tech: which icon do I click on to access the internet on the "start screen" on my laptot?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskew Tech: anyone
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: blue 
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zane Tech: e
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: blue e
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskew Tech: k thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: depends on thr browser you have installed
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kratos Tech: Im trying to load my Mapper files to my computer, How would i go about doing that?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: copy aardwolf.db (and sometimes aardwolf_bookmarks.db)
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelia Tech: how do i make the game tell me when i get hungry?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I suspect their first fix will be to wipe the hard drive and restore it to factory image.
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: mis
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: I have a question about a alias for where that I'm trying to write in LUA, anyone on that's familiar with it?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: just ask straight away)
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: jusk ask and see
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: just
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: alias where * *
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: n = %1 i = o while n > 0 do  where.i %2  n--  i++ end 
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: Sent to Script
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can't -- and ++ in lua
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: Ok
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: Still getting a compile error, [string "Alias: "]:5: '=' expected near 'pig'
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: This is when I try where 2 pig
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: 'where 2 pig'
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: 2 pig or 2.pig?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: Have I got the write concept down?  I feel like it doesnt know to send where to the game.
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: Send("where." .. i .. " " .. )
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no, it doesn't know to send where to the game, unless you use Send
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: Cool, thanks.
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Ah, back up to speed, sorry. I am on this channel more for help than helping
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: most likely, you wanted to do Send("where " .. n .. "." .. "%2")
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: or I don't understand your concept.. and why do you even need i
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i think it's meant to do a where of mobs 1-x of the set name
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: Yea, lol, I messed up the syntax a bit.
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: where 1.pig//where 2.pig
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: I told it to do where.# % instead... ha ha ha
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: Got it to work!  Thanks guys!  Now will the mud get angry if I send too many commands too quickly?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: depends how many many is
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: Most likely less than 15
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: unless it's spam walk & kill commands - I doubt it will
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: around 40 you should stop :)
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's fine
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: Ty.
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i've done 100, but you do risk getting disconnected if you send too many at once
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Slodhian is agreeing with that The Reaper Myrkul person again...
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: use Queue(.....) instead of Send(...)
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: What does Queue do?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: send them in slower pace
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: Ok
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: like send.. only slow enough not to disconnect you
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: keep in mind that even if you send 100 commands simultaneously, the mud won't process them all simultaneously
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it can only process 8 (i think) commands per second, and of course, many commands have artificial lag added, so even less than that
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: Id be scared to send more than 25 commands simultaneously... when I start moving that fast, I usually end up requesting CRs.
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, they don't need to be movement :P
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i wrote something similar once.. called it the where trick.. like hunt trick.. but using where
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: very fast if you don't have fast hunt
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: Yea, was gonna work on a hunt aid when I got it back
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: tehre are already a few out there.. unless you're writing it for the exercise
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: Yea, I want excercise.  Dont really want to have to rely on other peoples stuff, that way if I want to change something I can.
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: are power supplies standard for pcs or is there a spec you have to look at to make sure it's compatible for your tower/motherboard?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: have to make sure it will fit in your tower mainly
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Power output, and right size..
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nowadays, should be either ATX or a nano ATX
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yeah, must have enough power
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and get and 80% or higher efficiency one.. quieter adn pays for itself 
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: Can I set my keypad on Mushclient to use a variable?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you can make it call an alias
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: Hrmm.
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: How so?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If you make say 1 be the alias home.
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: make an alais that uses the variable
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: Got it, thanks.
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: tinyfugue syntacticians?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have a clue how to autostart sickbeard on mac
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: what is sickbeard?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: I have a mac too
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: it auto finds/downloads tv shows as they air
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: really
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: brb
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Any network gurus know why I would be able to connect to the mud on my work computer, but not my own laptop?  Both computers are hardwired to the same router, but my laptop refuses to connect.  Tried all three ports.  Work computer works fine though.
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: do you have a sec policy
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hmmm?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm on a drilling rig out in PA, the rig provides the internet.  We just have an ethernet router hooked up to their modem box or whatever it is.
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: umm.. subnet mask maybe?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Maybe, it does connect to the test port though.
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: or is it assigning IP addresses properly?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: umm what is it.. DHCP
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I have no idea
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: where the router gives YOU an address
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I assume it is DHCP
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: she has an internet connection though
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's just aardwolf that's not working, if i understand correctly?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh riiiiiiiiight
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: then laptop firewall maybe?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: firewall port?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: using 4000?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: 23?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: dollars to donuts it's the firewall
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: whatever that stupid phrase means
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's weird that the test port works then, though...
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sotura im guessing starling is using the same address and port to connect to aard as the other computer
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: it means you're betting 0 for 1
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: that can connect to aard
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: a donut's a zero
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its weird that it can connect to test port though
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tlaloc shoves a pastry up Sotura's nose. 
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: well maybe starling forgot to change ports (rolls eyes)
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there's no particular reason to block 4000 and 4010 specifically, unless they were blocking everything...
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: no, I tried 23, 4000, and 4010
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: why would they block those two, but not 6555?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Why not try by ip?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: nothing was blocked since the "other" computer can connect just fine
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: sure, but that doesn't mean anything
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: he said he can connect find with another computer, it's not port blocking, it's something on the laptop :P
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Tried by ip too, didn't work.
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the other computer is the rig's computer, they might not block it on that one
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes its something on the laptop
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Laptop connects just fine elsewhere though.
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: how are you connecting the laptop to the network?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: disabled all firewall and antivirus?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I just randomly run into sites where it won't, there's no real pattern to it.
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but they block it on other employee's laptops
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: you can try plugging it in since there may be different rules for wifi (not sure if that's 'allowed')
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: They're both hardwired to the same router
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Maybe try switching the wires. Different hardwired ports can have different permissions on the same router
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: any firewall software on the laptop?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: maybe max number of users?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: There is windows firewall, but that's it
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: whats the router name/model
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: tried it with the firewall turned off?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: try killing that, and you might try antivirals and malware
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: ipconfig /release then ipconfig /renew
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's a crappy Belkin something or other
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if its crappy, i bet it does not manage ports.
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: do you have access to firewall settings on the router?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Could be the wire, could be specic port it is on, could be malware on the laptop that is interfering...
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: although both computers are hardwire connected?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: one crappy belkin router, one firewall setting
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: disabled the windows firewall yet?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: can you ping aardmud.org?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its something on the laptop
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: try on both computers
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: one router to rule them all, and in the darkness blacklist them
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sobeit giggles.
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah i doubt its the router if the rig pc works ok
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: ROuter can have different settings based on location of the wire
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: yeah if your plugged into the wan/lan port yes
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its a crappy router.
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah but unlikely on a crappy Staples router
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I guess if I can't get it, it's not a big deal, I just want to be able to hear my quest timer script
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: that is why I am using a buffalo N draft router with open firmware
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: This work PC is junk, no sound
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Do you know of the mobo has integrated sound at least?
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: use the beep speaker! i bet it has a beep speaker
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: beep beep
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Pretty sure it doesn't even have that much
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: And run malware bytes on the bad computer
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If you have a android device you can download the app soundwire which will tunnel sound from the computer to your phone
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you are right! your work computer is junk!
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's a crappy compaq running windows 7 home edition
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: (aka junk)
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: weapons master is underrated
T3/r6/2012-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ooppps
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway there is no point to save trains except for instinct - they will not be carried on to next remort, so just remember instinct deposit before remorting
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mis
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: wow
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: opps
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: When upgrading MUSHclient and some of the plugins one would use for it (say, Bast's plugins, for example), what all should I copy to make sure I keep during the transfer? Just the .db file, or is there a different file used for, say, the mapper?
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: There's a well written faq on the aard website detailing how to do all of this.
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Plus Bast's Plugins also let you know how to transfer versions.
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Thanks! Didn't realize there was such a well-written FAQ on this already.
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Np! It's a really common question and the faq is pretty detailed.
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Even a dummy like me can do it!
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Haha. Or a dummy like me? I'm pretty dummy. :p
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: I'm looking to get a new monitor, something reasonably priced for gaming and amateur art. Pretty much everything on newegg looks similar except the size, res and ms, are there any other specifications I should be looking at carefully to make sure I don't dip the price so low as to get a crap monitor? Or will pretty much anything do these days?
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: consider buying IPS panel
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually those have better colors than others
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i got an asus 23" with 2ms response from newegg.. i think response is a good feature
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 2ms is good when it is white-to-black not when it is grey256-to-grey255, some manufacturers tends to give timings between similar colours
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway size - more is better, the same for resolution
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as for ms it depends - on how those ms were measured, also some panels like TN are faster than IPS but colors are usually better with IPS than TN
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ruthless Ross nods. "I'm not too terribly worried about ms or even getting a super brilliant amazing monitor, so it sounds like I don't have to be too picky about the specs."
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: I'm just looking for something to replace this tv that can only do 1366x768 and no other res ;_;
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: I just go for as big as I can manage.  Although I'm only at 27" at the moment.
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: The TV next to it is a touch larger though. :)
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: They're indistinguishable when they're off
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: At least to me.
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ruthless Ross drags Elan back to ftalk.
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: Oops. :)
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: Even if you're not getting one of the high (or even medium) end ones, they're pretty good quality
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: Darn it. :P
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fischer Tech: ok, looking for someone with knowledge about gag triggers on AardMush, pst
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: and sql heads out there - im having some issues with a query
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: [table] schedule [columns] id|name|date|requestType
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: there are multiple entriest for each date, I need to search through each date and find out if there IS NOT an entry for request type X
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: not sure the best method of select date from schedule where ... count(something) = 0
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hmm
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskew Tech: is there any way I connect a 5.1 ch speaker to my Nokia X2? 
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: is there a date for each day?
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i mean are you saying for the whoel table.. ro can you psot process it?
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskew Tech: anyone?
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: becasue you could try "select date, count(*) .. sql hrer .... group by date
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i could post process it, i just would prefer to do it with the query
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hmm well the complete abcesnce of a row with dates make it hard to bring back a row of data for it
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I don't think there is a query that will do what you want because what you are really looking for is a row that doesn't exist
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: make a temp table, populate with the dates you want, then do a left outer join to the other table joining on date AND the request type and look for places where the join fails
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Mye - just what i was about to suggest as well before my mush crashed on me
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that'd work in one go
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: actually, you might not need a temp table depending on which dbms.. some have a system calendar table ;)
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskew Tech: is there any way I can connect a 5.1 ch speaker to my nokia X2
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: no idea
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskew Tech: is there a way i can connect it to a dvd player?
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i managed to conenct a cassette player to the internet and i downloaded it all
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskew Tech: no one anyone?
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: it sounds like you'd be better of looking at the tech data on the net for the phone imo 
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: An ant chants the phrase 'winrar'.
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: for all you career techs/admin out there: http://evilrouters.net/achievement-unlocked/ 
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: for anyone who has built a pc from bare bones, if you buy the cpu and motherboard separately, do you have to solder them together, or does it just snap in?
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: no soldering required
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Snap in. Also, if you don't know these things, maybe don't build your own PCs?
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: the cpu is inserted into a zero insertion force socket
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: processors fit in sockets on the motherboard
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WarLord Mars THWAPS Cizra for being a moron.
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: zif sockets are being phased out
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: and if you don't ask about something you don't know, you'll never learn
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: i built my first one by figuring it out and reading manual
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: one tricky thing is the heatsink compound, if you are new you may not be aware of it
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: too much is just as bad as not enough
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: if not worse
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: a lot of cpus come with adequate compound already
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes but a newbie might scrape it off not realising what it is for :)
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mars your cpu comes with a fan, so you should be fine
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: for heat tranfer compound
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i still have problems attaching the fan to the motherboard
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the hardest part i find is connectng all thepower ables from the PSU
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: thanks for all the info peeps
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i put together a pc the other night, doesn't fecking post
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: modern components are junk
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra rolls on the floor laughing at Tigernuts's antics!
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well they are!
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tzadkiel  ships some vacum valves over to Tiger
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: the older mbs had crap caps, i find modern mbs i buy are much better
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I sympathize. I put one together a few months ago, and both the brand new graphics card and hdd were bad.
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rasmic Tech: anyone know of a plugin for a seperate inventory window that works?
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mine?
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rasmic Tech: whats yours?
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: Bast has a lot of plugins
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: tons....
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I have a miniwindow inventory plugin, finger me for the url, look at the wiki for screenshots
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: one of them is eqdb plugin
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rasmic Tech: awesome thanks, ill check it out
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i just wish i could get the spellup to work without giving me errors, not basts fault my pc has some permission problems i think
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: for the inventory miniwindow, look for miniwin_eq
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rasmic Tech: holy shit, some of this stuff is insane... THanks Bash
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah i think he has a plugin for almost everything
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: im thinking of putting in the eq database, might work better than eqsearch all lol
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rasmic Tech: yea im going to try a buncg of these out
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Bast, I downloaded your plugin bt I can't find it to activate it.
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you install it?
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you follow the directions at http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Installation
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "mneq eq show" then "mneq eq front"
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Bast, I should add it first, what xml file will I add
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: miniwin_eq
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: it shows empty on worn part 
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: hey bast just tried the eq plugin and got a spam of red
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: working now
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Schniet: do "plugins load fix" after that loads type "fix prompt" and type "plugins reload eqdb"
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: same for you lrynn
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: it's working for me now thanks mate
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: np
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: hey bast just tried the eq plugin and got a spam of red
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I know: Schniet: do "plugins load fix" after that loads type "fix prompt" and type "plugins reload eqdb"
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: then: same for you lrynn
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: had to restart
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, is it working now?
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: no got errors when i load, i was gonna email you the stuff but could not cut and paste
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: after it happens i have to completely move the folder out of mush and reload the only plugin that i can use without getting errors is the consider one
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: wish it doesnt automatically show id but it's a good plugin
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: brb
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: can we chose for it to not auto-identify bast?
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: found the settings option
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Bast Trigger function "invdetails_redirect" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Bast Trigger function "invdetails_redirect" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: plugins reload eqdb
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Flooded too, had to estart.
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Trigger function "invdetails_redirect" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: thats what i got as well
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: a whole screen of it
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: worked fine at first though
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: same here, everything loaded, then i hit refresh to get everything to list and it went nuts after it did that
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rasmic Tech: hey blast, im having trouble resizing the windows?
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rasmic Tech: bast*
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can't resize the window, it is a fixed size
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone else used Fractal Designs cases?
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: I've put some together for some friends.
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: I like them.
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: specifically arc mini/mid tower
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they never make the 4pin ext psu mobo power cable even remotely long enough
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i found this programming/logic puzzle very interesting  http://projecteuler.net/problem=18
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: is there a plugin where we can see the ones we are required to kill?
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Kill them all!!!  But seriously, what do you mean?
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: "the ones"?
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think he means a cp plugin. like basts or so
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Become an oracle...
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: I mean, so that we don't keep using cp check = =
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Ahhh yeah if that's the case finger bast for his suite.  Don't have to install them all, can just install his CP window and a few required plugins.
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Assuming you are using Mushclient?
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: yeah, I am using MUSHclient
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: I should just add miniwin_cp?
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and xbroadcast cp
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: got the plugin already ^^ thanks 
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: any idea why my miniwin_cp from bast's scripts would stop working? (the window doesn't seem to appear anywhere)
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: it stopped working after i rebooted windows
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grindel Tech: does anyone run kildclient on linux?
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Nope, Tintin is the way to go for linux
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I've been more or less happy with tinyfugue...
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ped, how's the mapper for tf?
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: mush and mudlet
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Heh - I've written my own
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grindel Tech: I can't remember whether or not tintin was the one I had trouble installing. I'm new to the linux prompt and using a computer with, you know, words.
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Grindel, finger me for a bunch of tintin stuff. I'm more than happy to help you get it installed if you need.
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ped: tintin has gmcp mapping fyi.
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Well, so does my tf, so there...:-P  Granted, it wasn't out of the box, but it wasn't hard to do.
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Oh I wasn't trying to compete. Just thought you might be interested to know.
T3/r6/2012-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Fair enough
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Network geeks, help a coder geek out pls :-)
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Would I do better to use an RJ12 modular extension cable to move a router
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: or keep the router at the wall and use cat6 to extend?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: If you're asking whether cat6 cable or standard phone cord is less noisy, I'd imagine it'd be the cat6...
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Then again, if your connection is bad enough that it matters, I'd imagine you have bigger problems.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No issues so far, but it is a long-term setup, so if there was a huge difference I'd prefer to know now - it is only 10m difference either way though
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I doubt that there's a huge difference one way or the other, really.  Given the choice myself, I'd feel more comfortable going with cat6, but that's more personal bias than for any concrete reason.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: If the cat6 has to travel for a large distance, I'd go shielded, if that helps
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: does blowtorch support alias's with variables like mushclient?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Nope, nothing that fancy
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so no recall * with recalling and a runto percent 1 at the end?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: You can use variable capture with triggers, but that's about it
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: what a piece of junk :D
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Ah, wait - that's wrong
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: You can also pass extra args to aliases, and it will capture those in $1, $2, etc.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: wait up.. so i can do it by setting alias to $1, then outputting it, with $1?n
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Set alias to whatever you're going to type to activate the alias.  Anything you type after that will be saved in $1, $2, etc., and you can use those variables in the alias definition
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: hmm ganna try it.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i tried it, but it added a null first..
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: why..
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: What did you type?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Well, first: how did you set up the alias?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: my alias is 'get academy demon
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol it just blew
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: my alias is BMB, i wrote BMB chick. it wrote recall, rt null chick
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i have it setup to output recall, rt $1
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: are there about campaing's gmcp??
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: No, there is no gmcp information associated with campaigns.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Bast likely has a plugin to capture and broadcast info for them, though.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: nod
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Same for gqs I think too.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: XBroadcast_CP xBroadcast_GQ
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: great
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: where can get XBroadcast_CP
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: finger Bast
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: nod
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bull & Jam Arystul Tech: is there a better way than email to transfer a large file from one computer to another over the net?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: there are a few free data transfer progs around - zupload or magaupload - I've not used either - perhaps just compress ? 
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: megaupload*
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: really havent heard about megaupload?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: there was one suggested by a mate ages ago , I'll see if I can find it , he knows his stuff 
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: from one computer to another, ftp, windows share, etc...from one person to another, put it up on a site
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: remote desktop works fine
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: Pando was the one suggested to me , again I have not tested it 
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tzad, megaupload's computers were seized by the fbi this week...rather big news
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I thought it was last week Abelinc.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: lol if it wasnt on Aljezera Deucherveller or news hour with Jim Lehrer I don't know about it 
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: jan 19th...the date wasn't the info I was conveying...
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: No, it was January 19th.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: just read bout Megaupload - says the indictment encompasses offenses that are up to 5 years old and carry a 55 yr sentence .. perhaps a case proving there is no need for SOPA and the FBI already has all the teeth it needs ?  
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, sopa works the other direction
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: SOPA is antecedant ? 
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: carpathia and cogent (the people running the datacenters MU uses) would be the SOPA target
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: Ahh and also SOPA alows prvate litigation ?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Google would be targetted too.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: allows * private* .. sigh 
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: private litigation has always been possible
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: lol just read mettalica vs napster .. yeah ok that was private .. and years ago ... 
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everyone loves lars
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: hmm learning to dissasociate artists and the music they produce , sad really 
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: from the * .. sigh 
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: can anyone explain to me why when i type 'put 7.dag 2.bag' it puts 9.dag 2.bag? im TRYING to put my aard eq in level sequential order but it seems impossible. I have been having this problem for about 2 months.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use ident first
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ident 7.dag
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and anytime you get/put, you're re-changing the order of items
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: You're probably better off using owned and retrieving with the ID number as well.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i know, it works as a stack
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: use invdata and refer to the id number instead
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: never had this problem before
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are sorting scripts available
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: do you have daggers of the same level grouped up?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: too complex for me, i like to keep it simple
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how are you determining what is 7.dag or 9.dag?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you have 1., 2., and 3. daggers, and 1. is lv 10, 2. is 20, 3. is 10, it will appear as (2) lv 10 daggers then the lv 20
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you see (2) dag, with dag below that, you don't know that the second row is 3.dag...
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: by looking at whats in my inventory and counting down through the list being sure to count multiples
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's wrong
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: use invdata
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: tech what? so (2) dag means 2 daggers of same level but then the next dag down is not necessarily 3.dag?!
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one of those 2 dags is 1.dag...you don't know what number the second one is
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Because of the way items are grouped by level.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because before you picked up or used get on the top one, the one it compressed with may have been lower in the list
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: that seems silly to me but ok.. thanks!
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not too silly when you thought that you already knew that one dag was 6.dag, and you picked up another dag...should that first one now be 7.dag or 2.dag?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the game knows it's 7.dag, you're thinking it should be 2.dag...which is more logical in the sequence of events?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: yes but surely its position in the stack determines whether the firs dag is 6.dag, say it is and you pick another one up the new one goes on top and so the first one (in question) becomes 8.dag
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: this particular problem is why I made an inventory plugin for mushclient that displays id numbers alongside the items in inventory without having to use invdata
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at any rate, IMO it's silly to sort aardweapons in bag by level this way...use owned & then get/put the items you need for the level
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: err, 7.dag even
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though it doesn't work in bags
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: (well it does secretly use invdata, but it makes the output look like inventory output)
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, bloood, that's exactly what happens...but you just said that was silly
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: so owned determines which is 1.dag 2.da 3.dag etc?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: owned means you don't need to know/care
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it gives you the (12345) serial number or the ID number, neither of which is ambiguous
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: owned means you know exactly what keyword to use for each dagger.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: so you can put/get using serial/id?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: k
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or object ID
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, yeah, misread
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: typing "owned 8" gives you some extra owned syntax that can be useful
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (it's also in help ownedwhere, but giving an invalid number is a more-concise list ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: does the ID number ever change on a particular item ? 
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tzadkiel ) great info , ty
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: every instance of every item created gets an unchanging and universally-unique number
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: what's the lowest number item anyone has? ;)
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: so surely if i have (2) dag (80) / (2) dag (100) / (2) dag (120) / (2) dag (140) / (2) dag (160) / (2) dag (180) (2) dag (200) ... then 'put 7.dag 2.bag' would put the first of the 2 140 dag's into the second bag, not the first 160 dag into second bag.. which is my problem.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all pre-existing items were basically batch-given numbers when the system went live a couple years ago
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, not surely, bloood...we just explained this, and you even agreed to how it worked :P
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i dont understand fully though lol nm, guess i have to use serial to sort if i dont want to use a script, ok thanks abelinc :)
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bloood bows deeply.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you had dag (10), dag (20), dag (30), dag (40), and you picked up another dag (40), you would now have (2) dag (40), dag (10), dag (20), dag (30)...
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i realise that my problem is with put though, not get
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the one that had been your only dag (40), which had just been 4.dag...is rightly 5.dag
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's with get
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: get is when you're getting messed up, you're just not realizing it until put
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: err no, read the history back to my 1st statement
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I read...you're just wrong in where the problem is happening
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: blood not sure if this helps but if you put ID 12345 (your dagger 40) in ID 54321 (your container) thats where it will end up every time no mater where in any order it is
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: soz Huge spammlagg
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup tzad
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for serials or IDs
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read carefully the sequence of events I just described...you'll see that what you would consider 3.dag is the level 10 dag...it's just under (2) dag (40)..., while the game knows that it's 2.dag...in the stack, it's just under the newest dag (40)...the issue arose with a get, but it's discovered with your put, as that's just the last manipulation...if you use ident instead of put, you'd see the same behavior, as with all other manipulation
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: ok so right now in my inv i have (2) dag (180) / (2) dag (160) / (2) dag (100) / (2) dag (80) / (2) dag (200) / (2) dag (140) , i'm going to try to order them into my 2.bag in level order from 80 through 200 using : 'put 9.dag 2.bag, put 9.dag 2.bag, put dag 2.bag, put dag 2.bag, put dag 2.bag, put dag 2.bag, put 6.dag 2.bag, put 6.dag 2.bag, put dag 2.bag, put dag 2.bag, put dag 2.bag, put dag 2.bag' which i should then see my daggers from levels 80 to 200 in sequential order of level inside the second bag in my inventory, i will let you know what happens
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's a bad plan
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Use item id's
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: won't work probably
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we already know what happens
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you used invdata like i told you like half an hour ago you'd be done by now
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or if he'd used owned
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: owned is a bit easier in that you don't have to re-order
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, owned or invdata -- you could drop those puppies into variables and save yourself hours of headache
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: owned, then put <bottom in owned list> bag, put <next bottom> bag, etc...flawless
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or just download a plugin which will sort the bag...or a plugin that sorts the *display* of the bag
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bloood, from that inventory list you posted, the *ONLY* information that is reliable is that 1.dag is a level 180
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2.dag may be either 180 or 160, 3.dag may be 180, 160 or 100
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Nods, if you have 2 80's, you'll see it as (2) blah, but it does not guarantee the 2nd item is 2.blah
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: k
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: So, just do as has been suggested and use owned or invdata (and as Abe already said, Owned will be easier for you)
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: Snarff
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: just my 2 cents but ditch the 2. 4. etc and use ID 12345 etc imo
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radah Tech: would anyone know why the cmud status window wont take %if(@var==yes,@bar("yes"),@bar("no")) with the function bar being #if (%1="yes") {#return "hello world"};#return "world broken"
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: =="yes"?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radah Tech: its like that i just forgot them when i typed that out it was not copy/paste :(
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: What is it returning?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radah Tech: nothing!
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is @funcname how to call a func as well as variable?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Try changing it to #if (@var=="yes") {@bar("yes")} {@bar("no")}
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radah Tech: cant use commands in the status window sadly :(
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: In cmud i believe so, Abe
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radah Tech: ya abe is var, is function
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: func are just variables with arguments
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radah Tech: @name()
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: What is the status window and how is it different than the command window?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: If this is inside a script you should still be able to call # funcs.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: zmud and aardwolf disagree
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radah Tech: if i use a command it just displays the text has to be a function
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Not inside a script it doesn't.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radah Tech: i guess ill just convert from the status window and use a normal window and populate the data with a script
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: You're manually inputting this into the window in question each time you want to call it?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cheez, I think it's a display area like the bottom of mushclient
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is mostly looking for variables to display
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Oh, you mean a gauge?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radah Tech: its a "special" window has its own properties, only 1 can be open at a time ect ect
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: When you say status window I think a normal window without an input bar.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: how does variable shadowing in mushclient plugins work?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: shadowing?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i dn't know what that is
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: sounds like a pointer
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: two variables with the same name in different scopes
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you're a programmer wink, how do you not know what shadowing is? :P
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: variables are limited in cope to their plugin
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that i know
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've never heard that phrase before
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I've never heard of it either
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but say i have two variables with the same name, one at plugin level and one at function level
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, heh...I thought you were talking about gradient shading
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: function scope take priority
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: assumed so, but is there a way to access the plugin level one?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you declare it local within the function then yes, if you don't then it just uses the global
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: something like this.var?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: program properly and the question doesn't need to be asked ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: not that i've tried.. i've kept my names usique
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: unique
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nod, ok :P
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: but i was recently burned by it when i forgot to take the local off a function variable.. so function DEFINITELY takes priority
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what's the use case of using a local variable that is the same name as a global one and then still needing to get to the global one?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: about all I can think of is exposing internal working variables (properties?) to the public ones external sources can access.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: obviously there are other ways to go about that, though.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Void n00b Lyna Tech: Anyone know if there is a spellchecker function in C? or a function that can reference a standard English dictionary?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: ZMUD had a spellchecher , not sure if that helps 
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Void n00b Lyna Tech: hehe, tbh no but thanks :D
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I miss the spellchecker ... if you find one that plugs into the MUSH client I'd be interested 
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mush has one
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient does spellcheck
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: really ? how do I access it ? 
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: you have to turn it on.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: talk dirty to it
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: hmmm turn it on...
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: File>Global Preferences>General>bottom left corner click the box.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: turie, if it works on me, it should work on mush.  right winklewinkle?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Gentoox: I do not use WinkleWinkle plugins.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i was referring to "turn it on"
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie shrugs helplessly.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I really hope this works , tessset 
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle talks dirty to GentooX
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I believe you want to hit ctrl-j before sending
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: ok found on the general tab of global settings , have enabled and set locale to EN
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: winklewinkle, how do I use s&d for quest?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: depends on how you plan to use it?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: schneit, have you clicked on "wiki" on winkle's site?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: You guys are awesome !!! can't wait till I teir and start playing with the client !
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and read through the searchdestroyFAQ there
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: just did thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Void n00b Lyna Tech: es schneit :D
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is there a way in MS Excel to lock in the numbers from RAND()? I am trying to do a random sample, but every time I re-open the file the data changes.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: According to my wife, do a specific seed value. 
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Do what?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: That is what she has heard. Unfortunately, neither of us have a better or more complete answer for you
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think I figured it out. I have to copy the data, do a paste special, and check off value.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: You can also do VBA macros, Turi
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zunjinn Tech: how do you use plugins with the mushclient I cant figure it out
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: goto file->plugins_.add
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ->add I mean
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zunjinn Tech: ok i added the stuff and the mushclient mapper is all blank and such
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: tried walking around?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zunjinn Tech: yeah
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zunjinn Tech: its a blue window
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zunjinn Tech: ok the mapper by nick gammon and all the status bar stuff wpnt work
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zunjinn Tech: the mapper is all blue in color like the tch text
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taithmar Tech: i was checking out mushclient, and i think some options messed up, chats appear all over everything when i connect with telnet
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taithmar Tech: are there any other options than tags, that mushclient changes?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Why is miniwin_quest not showing?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Is there a way to set an alias with a variable output?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: for example: name the alias 'bmb *' and have it output 'rt *' were * is changing
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: use %1 for the first *, %2 for the second (if you have a second) and so on.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: So the output for that would be rt %1
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: -15
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: how do I get miniwin_quest to appear again guys?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: some window disappeared for me too and i had to enable miniwin_tabbar or something like that
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i shouldve said.. im wondering about the variable change thing, in blowtorch
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: which shows me which windows are hidden
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: if its a plugin, in aardwolf, then you can check the file/plugins area and see if its disabled
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: it is enabled but it's now showing
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Havok,  how did you use tabbar to make other plugins appear?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: click show windows
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: still doesn't show even if it's enabled >.<
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I propose that ':p' and ':P' bypass the : emote shortcut...
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what about :D
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Sorry, my constituency is ':p' and ':P' you'll have to make your own motion for ':D'
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i propose :P is banned from the mud.. i only see it when people are being passive aggressive
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'm a very sarcastic person. I kid, I kid.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: noooo!! i love my :P!!!
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: how else would you show sarcasm??
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i got the blowtorch alias working! let me know if anyone wants to know how to setup an alias with variable output in BT
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: .variable :P
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ill explain it happily
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd follow the examples on happygoat ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I wasn't paying attention or i'd have told you.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: That's how i learned it, Abe :P
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol i asked a while ago, someone told me to use $1 and i messed with it till it worked lol
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: It is, $1.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: and it's .variable for non-wildcard references.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: whats the practical use in that cheez?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: You're kidding, right?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: setting a variable for the current weap your using maybe?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: There are multiple instances where you need a variable from something other than the trigger/alias string
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: to have an alias or trigger using that variable?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: For example --> [Hour Double] [Rate: 155/min] [Mobs left: 43758] [Time: 4H:42M:]
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Now there is no way in hell I could accomplish that with ease by just using %1's on my alias :P
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: woah, whats that?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hour double tracker
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Calculates time until next million mob double
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: that hour double is done on what client?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: tintin++
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so its possible on blowtorch?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yes
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CMFP Limunious points excitedly at Darth Vadar!
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: stranger danger
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: no way to use the mapper on this eh cheez?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: make your own mapper
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ooh.. where would i start doing that?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: or better said, start learning.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: By working on your walk length search algorithm
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: masochism school
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best way would be by using duckbat's proxy to access a computer with a real client that has mapping capability
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ... walk length search algorithm eh..
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so no online guide?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: why do you want a new mapper? what's wrong with the existing one?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Cadar - solve this puzzle and you might stand a chance at writing a path finder : http://projecteuler.net/problem=18
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: my comp one is fine, my prob is im on blowtorch.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's asking about on his phone, kraken...
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: ssh clients ftw, Vadar
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: i just built shortcuts into mine :)
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: blowtorch doesn't have the capability to be a real MUD client...
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I disagree
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: mapper on a phone? ugh. don't bother.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can disagree, but you'd be wrong :P
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: It can still map, it's just a pain in the ass
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: You have to use variables instead of databases, but still doable
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: have you beaten problem 18?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bull & Jam Arystul Tech: anyone know a way to get music off of a ps3 onto something else? a computer or flash drive or something?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Put a tape recorder real close to your speakers (sorry, feeling kinda smart-assish tonight)
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Not without jailbreaking it
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: There might be a way, but I never found it on my stock ps3.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I literally used to do that though. Tape record music off TV.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Old school piracy.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: jailbreaking has such negative connotation to it... I think we shoudl call ti "freeing from tyrrany"
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: "Democratizing"
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: headphone jack to mic jack would be better than holding mics to speakers...
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: According to Sony, Jailbreaking is perfectly legal. Once you buy the console, it's yours and it's your right to do what you want with it -- Once you begin to use it for piracy you start treading bad waters.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: and yet, their system updates never reflect that
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Doesn't mean they want it to be done :P
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: sony is an abysmal company
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did Sony finally learn that DRM rootkits were a Very Bad Thing(tm)?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: doubtful
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: course they also made you update your console and the update said that you can't sue them for anything in the future if you install the update
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: and somehow *that's* legal
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Not true
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: no it doesnt..  http://www.ws.seedboxlist.com/gadgets/5195-sony-block-linux-on-all-console.html
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: If you buy a dongle and spoof your firmware version you aren't forced to update.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I heard stories of Sony drives tripping antivirus scanners because they had installed a rootkit to try preventing you from pirating media.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: rofl
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: cheeze, the dongle in and of itself is against their terms of service
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yes, it voids the warranty, nothing else.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: agree wyza
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: So does rooting a phone, but that doesn't stop a large chunk of the android users :P
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you bought something sony.. you deserve everything you get
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: better than buying microsoft.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: drakoth, you do know that any game made this year requires 3.6+ right?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Wyza: no.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: that is basically a requirement
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: cheeze, without voiding the warranty
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I play mw3, bf3, skyrim, and ff13-2 on 3.55 :P
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Well, when you put that specification :P
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: yay skyrim :P
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: no, i dont bother with ps3 or anything sony
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Although, I avoid skyrim until the patch from bethesda fixes the lag glitch
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: did bethsoft every get their edge detection good enough for you to stop falling thru walls?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: didn't they do that with 1.4 patch?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: No, the were going to but it wasn't in there (at least documentation wise)
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: stopped playing their junk at elder scrolls for that reason :P
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: honestly, there are few games i play on my ps3, Final Fantasy (who's last 2 games have disapointed me), Kingdom Hearts (which i could play on a ps2 had i still owned one), and thats about it
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: hmmm
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Sure as hell didn't take this long with new vegas
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: most stuff i play these days is on the pc anyway
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i love hugging my Hello Kitty pillow as i play FF
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: Heh but there was plenty in new vegas that was never fixed and the scripts were atrocious :P
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I just cant wait for diable 3 - couple weeks left
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: i'm talking the file-size lag glitch in new vegas
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I hope it washes well wink
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ugh Fallout was buggy as hell
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: I had to rewrite over 200 scripts just to make my new vegas playable for me :P
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: holliday, the beta is promising, but far too short for my tastes, when i got to the end i was like, wait, what?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: i can't play computer games well anymore, the console controls are too tempting lol
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I downloaded the Kingdom's of Amalor demo, now that game sucked, IMO
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: More freedom to computer versions, which is why I play them...I created a mod for new vegas and fallout 3 adding around 400 mannquins to display all my stuff...it was not easy writing a script for 400 mannequins :P
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I so prefer the free to donate model over pay to play. Growing up poor sucked.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Until I found muds.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: My roommate is obsessed with his Skyrim mod that takes away underwear when you remove the outer armor :P
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: Yeah I have a few good one of those :P
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have one for aard that maks me nekkid : 0-|-<
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: The lockpick addon for skyrim makes thief-type too damn easy, though.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: As if thief wasn't already too damned easy?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: xrated
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: ^
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: I've gotten really good at scripting and rewriting code but I suck as a graphic artist :P
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Now imagine it bing even easier :P
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: sneaking crits is op. No need for cheat addons.
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: being*
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: Lol cheez, for a sec I thought you meant bing search engine :P
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: People use that? :P
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Is there a way to delete an entire area from mapper? 
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mapper purge
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: That delets all areas though doesn't it?
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: mapper help
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: mapper purge <areaname>
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not if you specify which one to delete
T3/r6/2012-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: oh it's at the top of mapper help sorry /thanks guys.
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: whats the command to change where statmonitor (Bast) reports?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: statmn set and then set the various variables to the channels you want
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: what is the gmcp value that represents current level?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Is there a way in MUSHclient to setup the arrow keys like you can the numlock keys?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: bind certain commands to them.
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at the "writing macros" guide on fiendish's site
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: No way to bind keys then?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, I just told you where to get the info on setting it up
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "binding keys" = macros and accelerators
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Oh, sorry lol missed that tell
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Thanks!
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Hmm, i'm looking on his site and can't find the guide Abe. I have to go under the MUSH-client side i'm assuming.. but after that. i'm lost.
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wiki
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wikis are there for teaching info, so you want the wiki tag
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: nvm
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: FOund it there :D
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Once again, thanks!
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's tons of great info on that wiki
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: There really is! It's amazing how much you can actually do with these helps lol
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Making plugins and triggers for Aard is half the fun in playing it IMO :D
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Hey abe you playing on Windows 7?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: or vista?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Try a Mac.
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: because i'm reading some problems doing this in Vista. Would that matter if i did this plugin accelerator trick in Windows 7?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I sit at a W7 machine, but I connect to a NetBSD box to play
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Hmm, let me restate that question.
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't put mush into program files folder and there's no problems
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Okie dokie then.
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: What do i type if i want to make an accelerator with CTRL+ Left arrow key?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: que?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Abe told me to make a small accelerator plugin to fix my wish of binding different keys
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, the accelerator docs tell you what to put into it
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: However, i want Ctrl+Left arrow key to do something, no idea how
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Does it have a list of key names Abe?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I'm searching for it atm
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, linked directly from fiendish's wiki page
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: alrighty
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't even need to search, it's linked from that macro page
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: then i'm not looking hard enough, let me read more.
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the macro page "You may also want to read the relevant documentation", then it has links
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that page has "The key can be one of the following:
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and has a section Lua example
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to show whaat the line should look like, including with ctrl+
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Whats the lua name for the Left arrow key?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I got the accelorator for CTRL+R and CTRL+T what do i write for the left arrow?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the name isn't lua-specific...the list of names is exactly where I told you to look
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Hmm, i'm right here abe :(
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i dont see a link
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [05 Feb 15:01:09] Abelinc Tech: that page has "The key can be one of the following:
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that IS the list of keynames, even with "Reasonable values to use would be things like:"
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: 12
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the alt key with down arrow is the first of those reasonable values listed
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: gotcha let me find it then.
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Once again, the great abe is right.
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i'm just looking in the wrong spot like an idiot lol.
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derevo Tech: is there any way to turn off other people's spellup spam?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nospellupspam
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derevo Tech: oh, ty
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: go through the config all list ;)
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: how do i make my mapper window smaller if i can't reach the bottom right corner?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: move it so you can
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: No way to do it on a small comp?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can shrink it from any corner
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, sorry, no you can't
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Yeah.. :( I was trying it lol
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: So i'm pretty much screwed?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no, just do what i said
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it all the way to the top?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: move the window, until the bottom-right corner is in the screen
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can move the window
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Myrkul no access to another comp
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would you need another comp?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Yeah its all the way on the top i moved it as much as i can, and its still too big to reach the bottom right corner
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i didn't say anything about accessing another computer...
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type resetaard
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Did the trick abe
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Thanks bud
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Where would the Aard community be without you? :D
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: (241000/32000.0)
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oops, mis
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: never done that one before :P
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: without me, they'd be listening to bast, fiendish, myrkul, winkle
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: True, but where would they bit when all those people go the the bathroom at the same time??
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol take your compliment! :P
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rechy Arxe laughs out loud.
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: can I force mapper to show my all 84 matches?  I cant get any more specific then "Kitchen"
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: or get it to only show exact matches?  the room name is just "Kitchen".
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out the mapper help options
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Surround it with double-quotes
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thats great, thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: how do you show plugin that are already enabled but are not showing up?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mean their window isn't visible?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it may have a command to hide/show it, but it'd depend on the plugin
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: LOL you're always available Abelinc. :p 
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can see the quickhelp of the plugin by going to file -> plugins, selecting it and clicking show info
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: like an unpopular dvd at blockbuster
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: thanks!
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: when you use bast_spellup, does it automatically cast skill when its time runs out? 
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: assuming you aren't in combat, in no-cast, or out of mana
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: then it queues it for when it can
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: you only need to type 'bsp fast' once?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: bsp fast doesn't add them to be recast
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you never need to type it, generally
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: You need to 'bsp sadd all' once
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "bsp sadd add"
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what lytebane said
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: hi Bast. Thanks for your plugins 
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: np, hope you are enjoying them
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bsp fast is for when you know you're not affected by many, and you don't want to wait for it to cast them all...it normally goes slow so that it's not deadlocking your character
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like right after a death is a good time for it
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pompidou Tech: Which is the plugin of the aardmushclient that shows the stat window?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pompidou Tech: I am trying to remove it, since I want to use Bast's stat window
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardwolf_statmon
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pompidou Tech: Thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: is there a way to load bast's spellup plugin with aardclient without it erroring out
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: why is there a 'Trigger function "recoveries_redirect" not found or had a previous error.' when I try to enable Bast's xBroadcast_SpellSkills plugin?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Probaly because there was a previous errors
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Try reinstalling it.
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: tried, didn't work
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There should be an error before that
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That would tell what the problem was.
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: Run-time error
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: Run-time error
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: Plugin: miniwin_eq (called from world: Aardwolf)
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: Function/Sub: mouseup called by Plugin miniwin_eq
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: Reason: Executing plugin miniwin_eq sub mouseup
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: E:\mud\MUSHclient 4.81\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua\eqdb.lua:1278: attempt to concatenate field 'containerid' (a nil value)
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: stack traceback:
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: E:\mud\MUSHclient 4.81\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua\eqdb.lua:1278: in function 'putobjectininv'
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: [string "Plugin"]:553: in function 'f'
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: E:\mud\MUSHclient 4.81\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua\miniwin.lua:1431: in function 'mouseup'
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: ...MUSHclient 4.81\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua\pluginhelper.lua:311: in function 'mouseup'
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: ...MUSHclient 4.81\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua\pluginhelper.lua:977: in function <...MUSHclient 4.81\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua\pluginhelper.lua:976>
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling rests in a corner and mutters 'spam' quietly to herself.
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: omg.
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the error was in the equipment database plugin...
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Post that one Bast's website and fill in the rest of the info.
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was trying to enumerate stuff on a container, but it didn't know what container
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: how do I fix it?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to get it working, quit & restart mush
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: Ok, I'll try that, be right back
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: the errors are gone but it takes long time to startup the mushclient
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You could have reinstall the 3 eq plugins.
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: which 3?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: how do I get Bast's plugin to show the moons?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Click the part that says Moons:
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you type "*moon lasher"
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: that part is not showing
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Then you don't have the plugin loaded.
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you need to have seen moons go up/down
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it won't show until it has info
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: ok thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: I saw the moon go up and down but I still don't see the moon button in Bast's plugin
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: I am sure I have moonbot installed
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: if anyone here uses irc on windows, which irc client are you using?  Not sure I like mirc enough to pay for it
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: you can use mIRC forever without paying for it
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: it asks you to pay every time you load it, but you can always click continue
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: oh I thought it was only 30day evaluation
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: oh!  doh!  didnt realize that. thank you kindly! :)
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borgo Tech: i thought with miirc you recieved a activation code based on the name you regestered so if you had to reload it you wouldn't have to reregister
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borgo Tech: but i'm sure there are plento o free irc clients
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: anybody use cygwin?  should I get tinyirc or tirc?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: okay, tirc it is
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: where does pidgin keep its freakin' data in win7?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: where does pidgin keep its freakin' data in win7?
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: ah, there it is
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: sorry for the dbl
T3/r6/2012-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: ~/AppData/Roaming/.purple
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I did an apt-get upgrade from sid the other day and now I don't have any entries in the System menu.. not sure what failed to load. Any ideas? I'm running Squeeze.
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havn Tech: anyone able to tell me what file stores the map information in the mushclient?
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: aardwolf.db
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havn Tech: do the bash addons make changes to teh .db?
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: cant help ya there, dont use em :)
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they don't change the mapper's tables in the db, no
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havn Tech: was able to pull up previous version of the db backup from yesterday.. got my maps back.. thanks for the help
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: in mush, my bast spellup window disappeared. any way to get it back? restart didnt help
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: it cant be that easy tlamacaz :)
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: twice. mischan :)
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: sooo I had dish put in a dvr yesterday... and when I connected it to my phone line my dsl went out... now my dsl works if I \
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: so I had dish put in a DVR yesterday... when I plugged in the phone line for the guy my dsl went out... now everytime I hook anything up besides just my dsl to the phone line it kills my dsl to include the dish or my phone... any ideas??
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe it needs a filter? at least regular phones usually do on a dsl line
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: Think I fixed it heh
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: how open the bast's cp minwindow
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: what is the comm
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I have an alias that sets a variable called Dual weapon.
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: now how do i make another alias to use that variable?
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i have to include it how?
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: assuming you're using mushclient, GetVariable
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: So GetVariable(DualWeapon)?
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i have to check expand variables i'm assuming?
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: in quotes, yes
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: did you read the GetVariable documentation?
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: nope, i'm doing this off of guestimation atm.
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: where do i see that doc celanil?
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: the same place as all the other mushclient function docs you've been linked to over the past few days
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: his name was..
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derevo Tech: fiendish
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thanks bud
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Did it! Wewt! :D
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so much easier than i assumed.
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: On the "Help Bot" Reading, it says automatically 'get <item>' on area repop is botting. Is Setting up autopickup on certain keys botting?
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: like, if i was to setup a database of monsters with keys, and autopick them up.. would that be botting?
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: As i manually killed them of course.
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: doesn't the mud already do that for you?
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: In a way, yes, but it picks up all of the items. I just want specifically the key.
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: So turn on keyloot?
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: theres a key toggle
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: OI!
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: This i never knew of.. once again thanks!
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: So much easier lol
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and mine was off.. for some weird reason :(
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derevo Tech: check 'auto config'
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Derevo, thats an awesome command. THank you very much.
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abergard Tech: does anyone play aardwolf on osx?
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: yes.
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abergard Tech: which client are You using?
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i know some use Mushclient with Wine
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abergard Tech: i would love to play mush but im not able to install it..
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I use terminal.
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Druzx Tech: i do..when i'm on it, i use the aardmush client via wine
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Druzx Tech: and tf works..in x
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abergard Tech: thx
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Druzx Tech: and you might try rapscallion if you still have ppc
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SchoolGirl Nykaedryn Tech: Is there any way to change a room's ID on the mapper plugin?
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm so lucky to have been upgraded to adsl2+.... and have my connection drop every 20 minutes as a result
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: sounds more like adhd2+.
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's in a "training" period, apparently
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: seems like damaged modem
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, it's them
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: even with adsl2+ it manages a piffling 795kb up
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: kbit, that is
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Who the heck names these products... premium, ultimate, professional? :P *grumble*
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: buy a mac, or use linux
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: Superlative Co.
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: yup, linux or mac is the way to go
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: simply if you buy *premium* product you are not dissapointed - because you have premium not just plain basic edition
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: anyone have experience on why Tomcat6 would cause boot to hang?
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: is bast eq plugin working?
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: works fine for me
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: anyone know where friendish wants ideas for mush submited?
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/issues/list
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: why would my prompt appear on the right side of the input bar in mush?
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: it seems to be right-centered
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you prolly hit a key combo for another charset, one which is a right-to-left language
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: what is the right separator for alias when using mushclient? 
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: I used a semi colon on my phone
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: ; works for mush
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: why doesn't it take the second command. Like I put 'alias mp take lotus test
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Because your client is using the ; and it's not getting sent to the mud
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: (semicolon)quaff lotus
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: you can probably type ;; to send a ;
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: okay thank you I will try that
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: and that works, thank you so much
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undeniably Ladanday Tech: is there an easy way to pop keys back ON a keyboard?
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: press them back in
T3/r6/2012-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undeniably Ladanday Tech: Hurr. I mean, I can't get one key seated right, no matter what
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlamer Tech: hi any advices cabout linux clients?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: In LUA how do I make a comment?  A line that's not read by the compiler?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: --blahblahblah
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: Ty
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: guys anybody uses plugins that tells you how much time you spent to get lvl?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Bast's statdb
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: you use mush?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's statdb is for mush
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: still anybody knows well about bast broadcast plugins? how do they work? i've installed on but it shows me nothing
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the broadcast plugins never show you anything
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're the "behind the scenes" plugins that let the other plugins do their work
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: hmm i've just gained a lvl but nothing happened
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at the wiki on bast's site, it tells you about all the plugins, what they do, what commands to use with them...
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't bother adding the broadcast plugins...when you see a plugin you want by reading on the wiki, add that plugin, it'll automatically add any broadcast plugins it needs
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: i've just added statdb and statmonitor
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: what plugin for mush i should use that will tell me how much time i've spent on last lvl?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: statdb will tell you that
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: what is the syntax then
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at bast's wiki that I've pointed out 3 times...
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it doesn't invent information...it doesn't know when your level started
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: Abelinc i did allready
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you did, then you see its syntax
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: i still dont see it
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: that's why i'm still asking bleh
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: tell me the command if you know
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the commands and help are on the wiki page for statdb
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: i must set something i cant' figure that out
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: please help me i you know it
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derevo Tech: Uh, need your help. I've pressed something in MUSHclient and now i have lot of {something} debug info, e.g. "{affon}501,135" during spellup. Cant find where to turn it off....
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm helping you by teaching you where to look, and how to read constructively
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: i need to add a milestone in the begining
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: oh Abelinc don't be so cynic...
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: i've read the helpfile but it doesnt explains what to do to begin counting
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then don't be so blind...if you need help *navigating* the wiki, then ask that...
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: derevo try tags off
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it is extremely clear on that page how to add a milestone
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derevo Tech: oh, that wasnt MUSH, ty :)
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: second bullet under "Installation" is "The default command for the plugin is"...
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then there's a colored box, with the contents of the plugin's "Help" with all the arguments to the plugin's command
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: so i did statdb addmilestone now it should work?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but levels are automatically milestones, you don't have to add or set anything
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was already working
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: but i've leveled allready
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: it told me only what i gained when i lvled
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, that's all it knew about
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: no information about how long does it took me
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: how to know the time?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where would it get that info?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it only saw your first level...it didn't see when you STARTED that level
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: idk , that's why i'm asking
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I said already, it doesn't invent information
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [07 Feb 07:47:24] Abelinc Tech: but it doesn't invent information...it doesn't know when your level started
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: SO this plugin will not tell me how much time i've spent on lvl?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it knows when THIS level started
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, it will
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: once it has seen enough to have that information
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's only seen half a level
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: is it possible that it will tell the info in group channel?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you see a command listed in its help for you to set what channel to report on?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: nope i didnt
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's how you read a feature list
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: how the command is called?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no commands are missing from that help...
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't see it in that help, that's your answer
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: Jesus , can't you just tell me how it's called
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: if there is one
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: if there is not , then tell that
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: i'm programmer or whatever
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you need to learn how to think
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: not a programmer
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need to be a programmer to read a helpfile
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: because i saw guys were posting that info in group channels
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: covenant, abe doesnt just give out answers. he helps you learn.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: which is way better
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: What a nuisance you are, Abelinc!
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: every command associated with that plugin is within that grey box on its wiki page...every command that doesn't exist in that plugin isn't
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: if you dont learn to read help files and wikis, you always be asking questions.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: sure
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol abe, what an answer :D
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so, read that grey box, and see if there's a command to do what you're asking
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: i have a exact question
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: and i need an exact answer
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: yes or no
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't see a command to do what you're asking, *THAT IS YOUR ANSWER*
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: i dont need the comments
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't have the right to an exact answer...
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: that's crap then
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: entitlement is what's wrong with people today
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're not paying me to answer you
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Regnator Josh sighs.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: because i see a lot of guys reporting that info into group channel
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: Imma have to turn off tech :P
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, lots of people do, including me
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ooh, if you pay me ill do my best to give you an exact answer!!
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: like how much exp they gained during double
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: how much did they get last quest etc
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: okay we start from the begining
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: how to do that?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: easy answer
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: learn variables, triggers and alias's
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: o rly?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: cool story bro
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: thx for help
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yw :)
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: i will learn  how to find someone that will just TELL me how :)
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no you wont
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: allready did
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: good luck with that. it doesnt exist in this mud really.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: what does not exist ?:)
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that keep that person as a very close friend for it will prolly be so in the near future that he is the only one answering your questions
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: the person your looking for. abe is one of the best, and seems your not on his best side atm.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: i will survive that :)
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: How difficult is it setting up a timer(counter) of time relapse during quests so that it reports through say, grouptell, when I finish(and how long it took me)?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What client?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not hard
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: zmud
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Use Bast's statdb and it's easy - needs MUSH though...
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: dang josh, i couldve actually helped in mushclient
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: trigger something on q request to record time as variable, trigger something on complete to get time and subtract
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: Vakieh maybe u know how to change channel of reporting STATDB info?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: Oh kinda like a vorpal counter then?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You'll want to use the %secs function, or perhaps the %time function to record the quest starting time, then do the same for the ending time.  Subtract the start time from the end time and that is your elapsed time.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I don't report on channels - tbh I have no clue why anyone would want to do that, yet heaps do :-?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: is there a better, more personal place to report? i do gtell...
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Yeah, I don't get the channel reporting thing, except maybe they can use gtell history to see what they've done so far
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: Hmmm sound pretty easy to set up...would just take a little doing...I like reporting on grouptell vakieh, that way everyone in group has to see who I decapitate :P
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I use the stock standard Echo, then capture that into the comms log by appending INFO to it
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sorry, I think it could be world.note, don't remember
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: aah i see
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: Awww it's so impersonal using an echo :P
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: its more personal using an echo lol
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Who needs to see how long I take to level except me? Why spam your groups o.0
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: noone hears ur spam
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Josh:  It's pretty easy, just pick one of Questor's messages when you take a quest (e.g. the "hurry up and return!" one).  For the ending message, if you are using MCCP, use the "You receive 2 QP MCCP bonus" as it's always the last one displayed.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I also see repop messages - I was there, I know it repopped. Very confusing
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: Well personal in the sense of you keep it to yourself, but I like the personal relationship you get in sharing your vorpals and other accomplishments with ur fellow friends and/or groupies :P
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I can do that in a FAR more personal manner by spamming messages like "Hey clannies, jut got 4 vorpals in a row" To which they reply "Cool story bro."
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: rofl
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: I like that, imma do that right now...get ready clan...or better yet, gclan :P
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i want a vadartalk
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Also available for this custom "manual typing" report plugin (i.e. a keyboard): How much lint was in your belly-button today, or even what your pet just threw up.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: if i output my variables to a notepad file, i can later call it for history right?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: I use a log vadar 
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: it's handy :P
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: log? :S
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: as in a really big var?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Regnator Josh boggles at the concept.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: MUSH can log to a file, capturing using regex usually
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I assume whatever Abe uses does that as well, hence Big Brother Abe.com
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: no idea what regex is. but ill have to research that log thing
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: I do pretty much same with zmud...everytime a log on is done it apends to a txt file 
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thats an actual site vakieh?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No idea...regex...and you mud? wow.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It will be soon...bigbrotherabe.com...just lemme add some boobie pics :-P
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: vakieh! im a noob :D
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: http://homepage.mac.com/mikeride/abelinc is the real site
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 'sok, just rare for someone to dig deep enough into the web to find muds, yet not come across regex first - basically it uses 'REGular EXpressions' to match character strings
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thats amazing!
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: I think I started using zmud because aard kinda advertised for it back in 98...back when I was first using telnet...been using zmud since, especially since I paid for it :P
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: aah regular expressions i know lol
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: See that is even weirder...knows regular expressions but not regex? I am perplexed...
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: Gained a level: 30hp 25mp 24mvs 5 trains 10 pracs 
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My first foray into muds I never got past telnet/java clients, because I read "pay for client" and gave them the finger
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: here's the story vakieh. i started game making with gamemaker, and wanted to move to the real thing, so i started VB programming text based games. so then, i decided to google mmorpg text based games, and here i am lol
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: why the hell that bast plugin
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: does not tells me
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: how much time i've spent
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: to gain a lvl??
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: because you smell funny.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Avoid vb like the plague
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i know it now vakieh!
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i ended up quitting gamemaking and learning a bit of web design.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: stayed mudding tho!
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I would start with ordinary programming first - makes the whole process fall together a lot easier
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i read the tuts and everything for C++ but i never understood anything past hello world.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I have seen a lot of people burn out because they start programming and say "Right - I'm gonna start with Doom, work my way up to CoD"
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i still dont understand the usefullness of loops :D and its something sopposedly paramount to being a programmer
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Khan Academy is doing wonders for IT education if you don't feel like taking a campus course
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav blinks innocently.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yeah, that was me vakieh.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sequence, Selection (if/then) and Repetition (loops) ARE programming, plain and simple
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you use an interpretive language like lua, it's more of logic than leetskills
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: then i know the logic part.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: gotta chime in there , Khan rocks !!
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and not even that much.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I would recommend the Alice program for learning the why and how for loops, etc
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: the if/thens i love and understand
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: its free?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, so what if you want to list a group of people, but you want to make their name backwards. You could do "get name" "Make backwards" "get name" "make backwards" however many times you need
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But what if you get more names? Or if you don't know how many names? BAM, use a loop
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Very simple example, but it is the sort of thing loops are used for
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: that is a perfect example lol
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i did all of that kind of stuff when i was learning it. but never got to any graphical output. thats intense!
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: once it hit graphics.. i was done lol
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: For the most part, graphical output needs to come WAY later (that is part of why Alice is so good - it makes graphical responses so easy)
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You need to start with simple text output - like this mud, for example
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: text output i think i can understand
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: but ill be checking khalifa out. or whatver his name is *checks history*
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Graphical output is just a different way of displaying the same results as text - master the one before the other
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: but takes more time to set it up!
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Depends on what you are coding - most IDE's will use console output by default
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I would also recommend BlueJ to learn object oriented coding right from the start - helps to avoid bad habits
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thx for the chat vakieh! g2g
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not sure how well that goes with self-teaching though
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: np - good luck
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: cya buddy!
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: go vis vakieh so i can add
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vakieh waves happily.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: cya
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: its probably smart to get rid of the rooms that have pits in the mapper?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: ... that have pits?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: like unescapable areas
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: noexit rooms.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there's no such thing
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: No.  If you don't want to run through them, set up your exit level locks properly.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if it's unescapable, it's a bug
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: (mud bug, not mapper bug)
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: well, escapable, only by recall
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: luckily, the mapper recalls for you
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yeah, i guess so.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: don't rely on a mapper so much and you won't end up in such rooms :p
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darth Vadar D
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: true :D
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i like your fetch script abe.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: anyone know why the second half of some of my push buttons on zmud arent firing? I have a simple one with green;marbu but it only is trying to use green, this happens with potions to
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: where it will get out of bag, but not quaff
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: something to do with toggeling parsing perhaps ? 
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: is there a small gun icon on the bottom right of the screen ? 
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: yeah
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: i had to turn it off to post with a semi colon tho
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: can you toggle that and try it ? 
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: turn it off or on
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: sorry it is really not my field but noone else answered 
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: the gun is for triggers, im using command stacking
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: and right now i push it and it works, i engage in combat and it will stop working
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: idk, now its working.. sigh lol
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: can I suggest you try asking again in 15 min , you might have more luck with an answer 
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: ok, thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: it sounds like something to do with enabling parsing buy beyond that idk 
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: but beyond*
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: its just strange, it worked on the last mob now its not working on this one
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: That monster was elite.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: try putting each command on a new line instead of using a semi-colon to separate them
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: perhaps if i make it an alias, then use the alias in the button it would work better
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: i did Myrkul when I saved it, it removed semi colon and put on its own line
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: probably
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ah, right, forgot zmud auto-formats code
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: dunno then, could try the alias thing
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: well, not the end of the world ill try the alias thing. Thanks for helping guys
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: alias thing works =)
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: i take that back, i just spammed it and only the first command is working again. CRAP!
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: while the gun is for triggers, there's a similar button for parsing...it looks like a computer
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: both are not crossed out. I run them both
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd need it to be crossed out to send a ;
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: im 99% sure you are wrong. I played several muds with more advanced triggers than 2 commands, such as if statements, timers, variables etc. 
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: this works, only 30% of the time
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not wrong on needing it off to post ;, but quite wrong on what you were initially asking, sorry, hadn't read back far enough for the initial question ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: it seems combat impairs its ability to work, my ISDEAD trigger works fine, casts a heal and does spellup. works everytime
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: LOL I knew it was there somewhere :)
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: Oooooh wait, yeah needed it off to POST a semi colon in chat lol.. yeah that is right
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so your button works out of combat but not in combat?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: it works in combat half of the time
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and your button is simple 2-command, no-logic?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: correct
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: first line green, second line marbu
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "config", put %c at the end of your battleprompt
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: um, now we are getting complicated lol
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno why green;marbu would think it needs to see a prompt though, but it's good practice anyway ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: so you want me to do what with %c?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure battleprompt ends in one
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it doesn't already, copy what's there, type "bprompt <paste>%c"
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: just broke my prompt :/
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: Your battle prompt is: <paste>%c
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Ouch
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, you couldn't tell that I meant to PASTE what you had just copied?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: i didnt hear the copy part
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scroll up to the "config" output...
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: copy your current battleprompt
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (or what had been your current one before paste :P)
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: got it
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: i think
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: %h/%Hhp %m/%Mmn %v/%Vmv %qqt %Xtnl %c
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: see if your button is more reliable now
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: worked 2 mobs in a row
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: woot
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: so what did we just do?>
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we made sure that your prompt is never "unterminated"
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: lol "magic" to ludites like me :)
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your prompt ends by hitting enter, basically
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rather than leaving you with half a line of stuff, and a blinking cursor at the end of that half-line
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: well i certainly appreciate the help, while its minor now later im sure it will be a LOT more crucial to my game play
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lethalvenom Tech: anyone have any idea why my daily blessing reminder isn't showing in my prompt when the option is set to YES in config all?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i assume it is time to get your daily blessing?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lethalvenom Tech: yeah
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lethalvenom Tech: just logged in and got the message that it's available however the red writing is not in my prompt
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm...try turning daily prompt on and off?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lethalvenom Tech: tried toggling off and on in config all, nothing happened
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: Is something gagging it perhaps?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lethalvenom Tech: i dont use scripts
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lethalvenom Tech: nor triggers
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lethalvenom Tech: it might be because it's my first ever blessing, could be some kind of bug
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lethalvenom Tech: reason i say this is because when i typed 'daily' it said 'you have never received a daily blessing.' 'type 'daily prayer' to recieve your first blessing.'
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the record, 90% of the people who say they don't use scripts or triggers actually do...they just don't know that they do ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everyone using aard mushclient package is using scripts & triggers, for example
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lethalvenom Tech: bleh
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and tons of plugins.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that being said, nothing in that should be blocking this
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I'm on telnet
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lethalvenom Tech: ok so i dont use any 'extras' other than whats included with mush
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the daily prompt may not do it for your first ever
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thats a lot of extra's to begin with :D
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gregor, you're also a liar ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Oh...yeah you're right! I changed the font colour to neon pink. That's a script right?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this says you're not on telnet: [116  Giant  War]   Gregor   172683    22433
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: If I recall my prompt never said daily blessing for my first time - which is why I went a whole remort without using it lol
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: how does that say I'm not on telnet??
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: telnet doesn't support mccp, so you may be telnetting into something else, but you're not connecting to Aard directly through telnet, any more than I am (while I'm using PuTTY)
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: and please don't post my level on a global chan. You make it very hard for me to lure newbies into the cmaze doing that.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You tickle Gregor.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gregor pouts. 
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lethalvenom laughs out loud.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: how did you get that output abelinc?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Abelinc = Big Brother.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: who 116 116 compress
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: thanks =D
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quick way to tell the mxiters ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: Why do I feel the need to type things people say on channels :P
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i did the exact same thing.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: my prompt quit working now
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: i guess it probably hasnt been working, but since we put the %c on the end i got no mob % life or anything
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: i just see the same prompt i see when im out of combat
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: stupid stupid zmud
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: stupid zmud not working again :/
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: should a %c be on the end of my reg prompt to?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: definitely!
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: ok, cuz this command isnt working out of combat now.. just want to make sure
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tangel, prompt and bprompt are two separate settings...if your prompt is looking the same both in and out of combat, you probably had copy/pasted the wrong version
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: yup, im aware of that just somehow dropped the %b off the end
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: im all sorted out now
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noyz Tech: my auto mapper seems to be reset today? is this because i logged my session? I am on the aardclient...
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noyz Tech: is there any way to reomver it if i didnt manually back it up?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's autmatically backed up
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look in your backups folder
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noyz Tech: hmm therefor it should be automatically loaded? hmmm this is the first time all the rooms seem unexplored... though its also the first time i quit the game with a corpse remaining....
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the backup folder doesn't get automatically loaded, it gets automatically created
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you would need to restore the backup file
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quitting with a corpse would not have any impact on this
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noyz Tech: thanks... i understand im just trying to figure out why it wasnt loaded like every other time ive opened and closed aardclient
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in your MUSHclient folder is a folder named "db_backups"...inside that folder should be backup database files
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was probably loaded, but corrupted
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: database files get corrupted occasionally...that's why it keeps backups ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noyz Tech: i see....sorry this is my first time with this plugin... how do i load that backup db file?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put it in MUSHclient, call it aardwolf.db
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd rename the current aardwolf.db into aardwolf.bad, then move one of the backups to aardwolf.db
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noyz Tech: then restart after the rename?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, I'd do the rename while offline
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quit much, rename, start mush
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noyz Tech: damn... didnt seem to work =/
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noyz Tech: i need to move the backup file from the backup folder to what location?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to the mushclient folder
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should see the original one...that's where you want the backup to end up being
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noyz Tech: thanks i see it im gonna try again...
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noyz Tech: well i replaced it with the most recent backup.... still looks exactly the same in fact its still showing only the movements that i made today.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noyz Tech: my automapper does not seem to be affected by the aardwolf.db file in the default mushclient folder... is there possibly another file or folder it could be reading from?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: have you changed the world name by mistake?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: right click -> World configuration -- if it doesn't say Aardwolf it will be saving in a db with a different name
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noyz Tech: thank you swalec it see to be accidently changed to wold 's' can i simply change it back?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noyz Tech: maps is back up! thanks for the help everyone!
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Anyone here use midpssh? Is the syntax for the connection aardmud.org:23 ?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone worked in Falcon before?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: looks interesting.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: hmmm i use the S&D window and i moved it somewhere i cant click on the topof it tomove it again what should i do? Mush client.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh dear.. yeah i'm adding a command to fix this
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: there is a solution if you're ok editing a text file
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just don't let the top go off the screen
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: yea that would be the idea but it was in the way and i was in a hurry so i moved it real fast like lol :P
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: whoever the genius was who thought it would be a good idea to make motherboards with only usb keyboard/mouse should be kicked in the teeth
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: please join the rest of us in the 21st century
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: adb ftw!
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: my PC is USB keyboard and mouse, but if i use mine that means no more mudding in the meanwhile
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: bloodbat - you still missing the GUi?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: uhm, do they even make non-usb/bluetooth keyboards and mice anymore?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: Why uh, why would you possibly use a keyboard or mouse that wasn't USB?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: roger its half way out and halfway in
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: because i have tons of them!
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they make USB ones that come with a ps/2 dongle
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: i just  moved itto theback
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: yeah i have like 10 of thos abe
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: color syntax works in cmud now?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: huh?
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: if you mean xterm colour syntax, then i believe so yes. check with linoge, he blinds us too much on clan chan.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: copy / paste colors Fiend
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ohh
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: I temember once when trying to get it working, it hadn't been implemented as yet.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish nods.
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: whats the char.? var that has total pups and this mort's pups
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: or does it exist
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all the vars are on the wiki gmcp page
T3/r6/2012-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: k, i didnt see it on the wiki page :(
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: can you add a comment to an alias in mush?
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Just add 'echo <xxx>' to the alias
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Anyone with a vent client mind helping me test my server setup real quick?
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: anybody knows why bast plugin does not shows time?
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: spent on lvl
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: it goes only Gained a level: 36hp 24mp 36mvs 5+1+6 = 12 trains 11 pracs 20 mobs killed (143.55xp/mob)
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dishdash Tech: hello?
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: Hello :o
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OneManArmy Jerome Tech: dishdash just ask your question about your phone and clients, someone may know
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: meh, you taken the fun out of the 'if i ask a question here can someone answer my question' phase
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I don't get it... how do we know what question he's going to ask?  also, is it a VOIP question? because if it is I can probably help, I set up predictive dialers for a living, the ones that get you annoying phone calls saying shit like "This is your cruise director speaking"
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: oops.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I forgot my manors.. hopefully no helpers read past the first half of that paragraph
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dishdash Tech: lol thank you.. Well how do I get a mud client for blackberry?
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: oh
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: two problems
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: 1) you're trying to mud from a phone
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: 2) you use a blackberry
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: solve both of those problems and you'll have a great MUD client
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: no help from me there
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: download bbssh.. just google it :)
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dishdash Tech: lol what's wrong with blackberry? Thank you
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I hope you have a bluetooth keyboard :o
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: dont need that catas
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: just alias everything u need mudside
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: thanks for getting my name wrong
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: oops haha
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Catas Tobe d
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: cobe :)
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: ack! tobe
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: sorry :(
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: koonta
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: lol .. all good.. haven't been on in a while and suddenly somebody points out to me that I'm a guy now :s
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: last I checked my online gender matched my RL gender
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: so I'm having identity issues.  I might be cobe after all
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'd like to take credit for that. I inspected Tobe's gender.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Any other females need their gender inspected? pst
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: anybody uses basts potionquaffer?
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: is there a plugin for mush to report id to single line in a window?
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: or something for skinning
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juchas Tech: i need some help on mapper please
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juchas Tech: mushclient
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OneManArmy Jerome Tech: ask your question juchas?
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juchas Tech: it doesnt show the path to found room (says he cannot find the route) - and i'm just 1 room away from it.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juchas Tech: There was 1 match which I could not find a path to within 300 rooms:
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juchas Tech: and i'm standing 1 room away. the room is mapped naturally
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Livonya Tech: custom exit to get there?
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: yep check cexist
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juchas Tech: nope///
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juchas Tech: just next room in a 'plain' area
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OneManArmy Jerome Tech: is the room maybe number -1 (maze room)
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juchas Tech: it's in umari
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Livonya Tech: roomname?
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: hmm in maze i suppose
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juchas Tech: nope
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juchas Tech: The Preparing Chamber of Half-Griffonicity - umari room
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juchas Tech: not to mention that it takes forever now to  find the wroom with mapper area command...
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imouto Saelle Tech: Mine gives me a path..even though I can't get in
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juchas Tech: yeah it's broken with all the rooms
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: try mapper find The Preparing Chamber of Half-Griffonicity for info at recall i have 36 rooms away
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorvalas Tech: Anyone here pretty good with the mush client? I eem to have misplaced the chat window.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is there gmcp for group info messages
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: define group info messages
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: join/leave
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: promotes
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: those come over thegt channel, so yes
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the gt channel*
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the invites are not sent via GMCP
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I gotdistracted, OC run
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: they don't get capped for some reason
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Alright So i was having a freezing problem on my computer. So i did a system Restore to the furthest back i could
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: on windows 7.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that's how bad stories always start
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: When i turned it back on, it gave me a black screen for about 5 minutes, then it said system restore completed successfully
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: @winkle lol dont tell me that :D
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: then everything cmae back
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Someone told me before here that i should check my drivers. What specifically do you think i should check?
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: Speed Racer of the Mach 1 team looks suspicious
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derevo Tech: well, its better to check cpu/graphics card temperature first
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I dont think its overheating, i have a junky comp with no overclocked pieces and the side is actually open.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: its wierd tho, because with the system restore it seems like its not going to freeze.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derevo Tech: nvidia/whatever then, non-video drivers are usually "stable" and not updating every month
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so check my graphics card drivers?
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: check that first
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I guess that means just throw a windows update?
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derevo Tech: yeah, you have stable system restore point anyway
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yuk nulan cps have started
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mis! lol
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: It's not freezing yet, and this is the longest its run without freezing.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: @winkle Sorry about that winkle. Sounds horrible :D
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: not as sorry as i am!  now all the PKers will be sitting in Nulan for me to turn up!
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Well, So to check my graphics drivers. What are the steps? :S
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh man i'm an airhead..
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derevo Tech: uh, update them to latest version and check for freezing problem?
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: K, so windows updates works.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: <-- No idea what to do lol.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: First time i have a problem like this.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Moral of the story: Don't let your young family members use the computers lol.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: parents are known to have sexy fingers too Vadar 
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: haha, well.. Can't blame them. lol
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I'm the Official TECH guy of the family.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and sadly, i know nothing lol
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so i get grounded if i dont fix the comps.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: it's called moral higher ground .. not blame =P
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darth Vadar D
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derevo Tech: you know how to restore to safe backup point, that 90% of tech
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Moral higher ground? Explain that Tzad lol
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i like the way it sounds, but i dont get it.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: they break your ..computer . .. chest of drawers etc , you get to bring it up next time you get in trouble for breaking something 
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Nah, they break my Whatever. I get blamed for breaking it lol
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: This desktop i haven't used in weeks lol
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: It magically starts freezing.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I'm sopposed to fix it. :S
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Meh, im sure its the same with all techy guys.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: GAH IT FROZE
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: While i was updating my drivers!
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: it was at 21%
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derevo Tech: well, dont update them, problem is fixed
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: It will freeze with or without update. :S
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: it just took this long to freeze this time.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and now, its not outputting vid. :S
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: pour kerosine on it.. light a match
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I've considered microwaves actually.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: More elegance i think.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I can boot from USB on most bios's right?
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: or CD
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: if i download windows 7 off of thepiratebay and just reformat the whole thing
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i keep a windows and unbunto boot CD around for such occasions
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: umm you might not want to say that here
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: My Old windows 7 CD is broked.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: enjoy the rootkits, vadar
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: scratched up really bad.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: piracy on tech is like having sex with my mom.. everyone does it.. noone talks about it
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i didn't know w7 came on a cd
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that's teh rule
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: gotcha
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: winkle, i think i have only one piece of unlicenced software on one of my machines out of 5
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derevo Tech: i'm russian, so i have, uh, one piece of licensed software :P
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you can burn an iso toa dvd that'd be better if you can
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why pirate when you can use free software?
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite glances at Seltsimees Dagnir and exclaims "ARR!"
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: btw, i'm a member of the local pirate party :P
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: nice!
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite smacks Seltsimees Dagnir out of his boots with a sign reading "o-} ARRR !! {-o"
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, those who live in the EU: attend international protest against ACTA this saturday
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there should be one near you
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah.. very important!  thaks to the polish for their stand!
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as of polish "stand" - polish government is ready to discuss ACTA because of political reasons, but they don't want to withdraw Japan's signature
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: anyone able to tell me if HP Designjet 800 42" Large Format Printer is or is not a scanner? I don't think it is, but figured i'd ask to confirm.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: according to hp www it is printer, not scanner
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pokey Domain Tech: thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: thanks man
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vslimz Tech: Does anyone here know how to string commands? ive tried the ';' with no avail
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: sometimes you have to use 2 ;;
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: I use 2 ;
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: semicolons
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: depends on your client
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vslimz Tech: ah, okay then i probably the client because double semi-colons arnt working for me either
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vslimz Tech: thanks 
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what client?
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vslimz Tech: Atlantis, a mac client
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: i managed to do it once but forgot.. alias tt * will set variable target to %1. what is the correct trigger to paint it red?
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: there are color settings int he lower right hand side of the trigger editor
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: but the trigger box.. like * target * ..?
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: global variable
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: hehe:) dejavu. its pure magic for a boozed brain:) got my highlight all by my self!
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: What's the command to see the list of commands for winkle's mapper extender?
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: extender help?
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: np
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: anyone know if its possible to upgrade from a cs4 trail version of dreamweaver ? to a cs5(upgrade cd)
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I'm going to take a wild stab and say an upgrade disk won't work on a trial version of the software.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Pretty much. lol
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: nod sucks :p
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: does anyone know much about the lottery functions?  Such as buy ticket all.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: I'm specifically wondering if you can end up with 2 of the same tickets.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagin' Bevo Tech: i cant log in with my desktop for some reason. ideas?
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it connect but not verify identity, does it not connect?
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagin' Bevo Tech: i get "error occurred during phase:"
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagin' Bevo Tech: using the mushclient
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: new mush download, or one you've been using?
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagin' Bevo Tech: umm, there is an unable to connect code 10054
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagin' Bevo Tech: been using a while
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagin' Bevo Tech: hmm just connected
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagin' Bevo Tech: better now for some reason, thanks for helping =)
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it knew I was here, and that it had better connect
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle laughs at you mercilessly.  Hmmmmph. 
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You scared poor Rampagin' Bevo!  Now he's cowering in a corner.
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rampagin' Bevo winks suggestively at you. 
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Is there a mush mil mob plugin calculator?
T3/r6/2012-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Or "estimator"
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: anyone know a line editor i could dl for free?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: People still use line editors?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: what else should i use?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: hmmm... I haven't used one in years
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: what are you trying to do, DJ?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: edit my script file, need to get to line 2515
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: what OS?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: win7
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Use something like phpEdit
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Or netBeans
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: what about notepad++
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: it's easy
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: A bit heavy for what you need, but it'll give nice syntax-highlighting.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: And good line numbering.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: netbeans sounds like one of those online coffee supplies sites...
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: and you can use CTRL+G to jump to a line, I believe
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: thanks, i fixed it with editpad lite
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: i went to 'open with' notepad, like i saw someone say, i didn't see notepad so i used what i saw, and found a line hop. got rid of what looked like an extra }, and blam. thanks again all.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pompidou Tech: In which mushclient file are all the maps saved?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Aardwolf.db
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pompidou Tech: thanks duckbat :)
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pompidou Tech: What is the aard stat window called in the plugins folder of the mushclient aard version?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pompidou Tech: anyone knows?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pompidou Tech: how to use the bast spellup?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Bast website has a very good how-to / faq.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pompidou Tech: thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: mp (.*) 
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: send to executey
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: mapper area %1
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McBeth Tech: any tips as to how to make a 'mapper find xxx' alias (i want to short cut to mp xxx but cant seem to make it work)
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: yes, send to execute
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: McBeth, I just answered that ^^
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: first part is the alias, second part is what you send
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McBeth Tech: I just get an I dont understand msg
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: make sure you check regular expression and expand variables box
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McBeth Tech: mmmh...still cant seem to get it to work...thjough msg now says unknown command
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: send to execute
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: not world
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: it's a dropdown menu below where you enter the alias
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McBeth Tech: yep that worked and thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: how can I use level in aard client scripts? is there a standard variable?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curva Tech: who can help me fix problem with many counts of eta?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tazaghar Tech: what to do if im recieving things like @C3 West from here you see:
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Type rawcolors, does that fix it?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: oh
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tazaghar Tech: thx, it works -)
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: is there a way to catch my Runto's and switch it with a portal i have in a bag?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: For example, i have the portal to killing fields. But i can type rt killing fields, or rt fields or rt kil and it will still all go to killing fields. While an alias i'd have to be exact. Is there a way i can make it so that If i type any of the above it will use the portal?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imouto Saelle Tech: Which client are you using?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: MUSHclient. Sorry about that.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imouto Saelle Tech: You can set the portal in the mapper and use mapper goto <room number> but you'll still have to alias something for that. 
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Yeah, my question is how i can be flexible with the area names. Sometimes i just don't feel like typing the whole thing out :D
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Sheer laziness really.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: my S&D plugin has an "xrt" command that will run you to an area using whatever portals you have in your mapper
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imouto Saelle Tech: in this case it's mapper goto 29232 -- I just alias it to kf.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: let me check it.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: finger winklewinkle
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: winklewinkle if i use that command and have no portals set in my mapper for that specific area, it will run me there?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it uses mappers' "mapper goto" commadn to run you there.. but it works out what the "first" room of that area is for you from the database
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whimsical Willmek Tech: Have you looked at all this yet Vader?:  http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GMCPmapper
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Anyone knows a good source on how to detect and remove Remote-Acess-Trojans?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Nope, but isn't that basically the Mapper Help file on a wiki?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: antivirus software could help you
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whimsical Willmek Tech: Well, yeah, pretty much
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i use Free Avast
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: That's true. Can anyone comment on the likelihood of a sophisicated RAT being undetected by AV software?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: MSE is the best free AV out there right now
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Supposing a lot of money was involved, presumably someone could write a Trojan which goes undetected?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Hackers are out ot get you! Or maybe just look at less porn :( One or the other.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I <3 avast.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't "love" a specific product. i'm rational :P
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: just read it Willmek, I actually learned something too! I didin't know you could level-lock areas. I'll be using that in reme! for that leggionare that always hurts me low lvls
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: well, i love avast, because it works for me and its free lol
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i love it and am legally married to it
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and it used to say "avast virus database has been updated" which made me feel safe.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use MSE because i /know/ it's the best one out there right now
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I know how to use AV software. Can anyone comment on trojans that go undetected by the latest AV software?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and in a sexy voice which makes it all the better.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Yeah, i can comment gregor. They suck.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: agree on voice
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: TBH gregor, when i got a virus that passed by Avast! I went to a virus removal forum and someone did it for me.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Would there be a reliable manual way of detecting a Trojan? LIke using netsat or something?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: what planet are you people from
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, they must have completely unique working mechanisms then. i think you don't understand how AV works
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: rigel V
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: gregor, if you need to ask about stuff like that - don't bother
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Yeah, I'm talking about a trojan written specifically
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Attack Vector Tech: nice, wyv
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Not one that matches a whole bunch of generic trojan strings floating all round the net
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Riddim, try Finger <target> to show planet of origination.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: I think thats a reasonable question to ask.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: One that has been written especially by a skilled hacker to place on my computer
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if _I_ wrote a specifi program to do something nasty to you.. a virus program would probably not find it
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: specifically for you that has completely unique working mechanisms that are way beyond what current AV products detect?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I agree gregor, if a hacker specifically wants to get to you. May the tech lords be with you. Avast isnt ganna do squat.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Ok, ty winklewinkle. How would I go about /finding/ the trojan you wrote wrinkle given that my AV doesn't detect it?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: You have a hacker with access to unreleased vulnerabilties who is after... you?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: are you sure you're not druzil, because that's just paranoid
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: I wish I rolled that deep.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Look for "wrinkle's" in your programming :D
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Not a relevant question Riddim.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it is!
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because that's what you're currently assuming
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: It does sound pretty paranoid lol.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Yes, but whether /I? personally have a hacker after me is not relevant
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but it is
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Like I said, I wish I rolled that deep.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: why is it relevant?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Oh I see, the hacker is scanning his files. So he can't actually type it without the hacker knowing.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: So his answer is yes. Right gregor?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i mean, if i were one who would write a virus like that, i wouldn't bother with you. i'd sell the code to the highest bidder on the black market
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: What about a monkey with computer stills thats got a bunch of wacky 1 liners when he hacks into your system..
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: we could star adam sandler
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Dagnir, would that code go for mult-millions of $?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Dagnir, you couldn't find the black market :D
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: probably not, but it could earn that much money
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: do you have any idea how much money there is in the malware business?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Dangladesh Tech: I've got it.. Gregor is producing a virus and wants everybody's input to make it more robust against manual detection. See how his interest perked at the $$$?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I'm just saying, assume that there is a motive. And that someone with a RAT on my computer could potentially make millions.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: If I were going to be malicious I'd target soccer moms on coupon sites and NOT unemployed 30 something mudders.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh realy gregor? what's your IP address?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I asked here, because....on certain subjects, especially computers, aardwolfians seem to be well-informed
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Why don't you answer the question I asked you before wrinkle.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: But you're making outrageous paranoid claims.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: because i was too buys levelign and talking to my boss
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: gregor - i'm 99.9999% sure you don't have such virus on your computer
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Assuming you did write a special malware trojan just for me. AV didn't pick it up. What would you recommend I do to detect/remove it?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: or $$$ in your bank.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Ok, thankyou Dagnir. A percentage is helpful.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: re-format your computer
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you might have something common, of course. but that would take too much time and effort and i seriously doubt you have anything worthwhile on your pc
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: look for processes running in your task manger you don't recognize
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: reformat and see a  is my vote
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: or just get rid of it and buy a new one
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Although, frankly you don't know a lot about me. So please accept my revised estimate that it is more like 98%.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because that's not how malware works
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: gregor I'm 00.0001% sure you have virus
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: Well you can use PROCMON (windows) and examine all your running processes.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you don't seem to have any grasp of what that scenario would assume
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: Then if you think its TX/RX you can use wireshark and disect all the incoming and outgoing packets
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: enlighten me. What would it assume?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, that's waaaay beyond that a modern AV could do, unavowed
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: OR you could just troll in the tech chan, that might cure it also.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: it seems quite a few million dollars would be a good motive to write a trojan especially
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: cast cure virus
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: he's talking about some 1337 h4x totally undetectable virus (probably using some unknown 0-day exploit) that's been written for him
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: yes, that's right
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: or at least....20 people say
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, you don't have that
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I mean, you said you'd sell it to the black market. Who do the buyers use it on?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: on Gregor!
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: botnets, not plotlines from 90s movies
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Riddim.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Am I to assume you basically just don't know the answer?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: gregor if something tried to hook into your keyboard event you would need to give it approval to run.. Win 7 would alert you
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: The most useful piece of information I've got so far is to check task manager.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Something I already knew, but I'm not so great at identify which the legit processes are
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Gregor, we don't have knowledge of 0-day vulnerbilities, that is the point of them. This is not a high level computer concept.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: That's what you're asking.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I once saw my mouse move by itself and i freaked out. Then i noticed that i wasn't a high-profile enough target for a hacker with this knowledge to target.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i find it hilarious that you want to find it manually tho :D
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: If they can be written and placed manually, I don't see why they can't be found manually
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Actually, Gregor does have a virus
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: You probably could. Learn all the files on your computer, and go file by file.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: a virus so sophisticated that no modern scanner can detect it, but gregor might be able to find it by looking at running processes in task manager :P
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Not saying it would be easy.....
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: However, it would be a personal attack to state what is.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, vadar. he'd have to calculate checksums for each file on his system and have something to compare them against
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: So, since you've thrown out occam's razor, why not just reformat?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Or that. there you go
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Tbh, It doesn't even have to be an overly sophisticated trojan. I'm just talking about one that is not detected by AV because it contains a string not recognized by the AV.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, if it even exists, it would be a rootkit
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: why would it be a rootkit?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Because Avast PWNS trojans
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: isn't a rootkit just a type of RAT?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: AV only works if things have the "a46e365" string, all you ahve to do is change it to "a46e364" and it's fine.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: avast pwns nothing
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I hear there is a virus caled id-10t
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: perhaps Gregor has it
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not good AV, riddim
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there are other heuristic detection methods
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Gregor's conception of AV, sorry.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I'm really suprised no-one has anything useful to say
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, yeah, right
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't ask if you don't like the answer
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because unlike you, some of us actually know what we're talking about
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: The problem is, I haven't actually /received/ an answer that directly addressed my question
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and your scenario (and expectations) are unrealistic
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Why are they?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Gregor, if you really want to find a virus and remove it manually. Google virus remove forum. There's this place that people will teach you how to do it for free. And they're awesome.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: we've been trying to explain that for a while now
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I agree they are unlikely.....
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: otherwise, dont get mad at the answers that players on a game give you.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: But you are saying it's NOT possible?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Yes.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: YOU DON'T LOOK FOR ROOTKITS MANUALLY
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that good enough answer for you?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I already know for a fact it's possible Vadar
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: id-10t is totally undetectable by any virus scanner, and can completely destroy your system, release all your personal details to the world, crash your car, and burn your house down too.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: So, Dagnir. The people the write definitions for virus checkers, how do they find new viruses?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: look at your installed programs and see if you can find one that looks like "UR PWNED LOL111"
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Gregor, the day you find the man/woman who sopposedly is doing it. Let me know i'll get naked and run across the street to walmart and dance there for an hour until i get arrested.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you don't "write" virus definitions
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Vadar, I've just been reading on a forum of it happening.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: People love to write stories Eh?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darth Vadar P
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: gonna put you on ignore for now vadar
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: gregor, sorry, but you have no grasp how antivirus products work
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Dagnir, I didn't claim I did.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I can't believe you're not even considering that you've been infected with id-10t
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: if I was a tech God, I wouldn't be asking here
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It could do all the things you describe, and you would never know until it's too late
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, you were saying things like "i know for a fact"
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I know that trojans which can't be detected by AV exist
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: that is a fact as far as I'm aware
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: And id-10t is one of those trojans
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: EVERYTHING is possible. Don't stress over the EXTREMELY unlikely.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: occam was a cool dude, his razor would be pretty helpful right now
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: If the EXTREMELY unlikely happens, you deserve it. lol
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: do you disagree with that?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, but did you get what i said in caps lock?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because i'll go again just in case...
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: please do
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: go for it!
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ahha
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I missed it amidst the spam
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: USE AN AV PRODUCT TO SCAN YOUR COMPUTER. THAT'S THE BEST YOU CAN DO. YOU DON'T LOOK FOR VIRUSES AND ROOTKITS MANUALLY. YOU DO THAT FOR BROWSER HIJACKS AND OTHER PETTY SHIT
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Ok, so if someone has a RAT on my computer allowing them to see my screen, you are saying that there is nothing I can do and I'm screwed?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Dagnir, help me out here
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: RAT?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Can you agree with me that id-10t is likely the virus he has?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Remote-access-trojan
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: You're not going to be able to discover something that explots a 0-day vulnerability, that's the whole point is that you can't discover it/stop it. Once again, you're assuming that your keystrokes are worth... a lot of money which seems unlikely. But I know you're just going to say that obviously you are that important and you have a good reasons for being so delusional.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: starling, that may be the case, yes
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: Yea, I would go out on a limb and assume that if you're net worth was worth stealing then you could afford a professional to diagnose your workstation for malicious software.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Again, you've failed to answer the question Dagnir.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but it's near-impossible to fix
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Gregor Tech: Ok, so if someone has a RAT on my computer allowing them to see my screen, you are saying that there is nothing I can do and I'm screwed?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: The answer is "No" you're screwed.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: Might as well pack it in and start shopping for a new trailor.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Yeah, you can disconnect internet.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: my wife got one of those WinXP2000 rootkit viruses .. you could manually detect it with a command promp if you knew EXACTLY what you were lookign for.. but the only fix was a format
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Ok, so if someone manages to get one of these trojans in department-of-defense etc, we are ALL screwed
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: exactly.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: because apparently there is nothing you can do if AV doesn't pick it up
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: great
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: .. the one that pretends it's an antivirus
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what makes you think you even have anything on your pc?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: seriously, you are sitting here calling me stupid, but all replies I've received so far have been on a remarkably low level
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you're asking stupid questions, that's why
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: I don't think he's looking for a reasonable answer.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Actually, real companies/organizations keep critical files off the internet/etc and have real policies in place to deal with this kind of worry.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and well, making crazy assumptions
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Sure, but you've failed to convinced me how my question is stupid
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Unlikely != crazy
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: There are things you can do that would alert you to a virus, you may not be able to resolve the issue however.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: unlikely = unlikely
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: GO download PROCMON & Wireshark, learn to use them.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: Assuming you can learn to use those two products then you'll have a starting point to diagnose your problems.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i guess it will keep him busy for a while. so yeah, you do that
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol :D
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: anything constructive is more useful than Dagnir repeatedly calling me an idiot
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: while still failing to answer pretty much any question I actually ask him
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: 10 mnutes from now: How do I detect something that there is no reference to?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: help, there is an invisible ogre in my kitchen
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: how do I detect and remove him?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hulgar Tech: sniff or call out marko
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: once i stupidly opened some attachment someone sent me without thinking
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i just did a search on my c: for any recently created files, and found some suspicious ones in my windows folder
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol poor guy getting owned.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: deleted them and everything was fine
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: gregor, i tried to help you, but you have this stupid stubbornness. also, i can call you stupid because i actually know what i'm talking about. computer and network security is something i do for living 
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Ok, but you are answering everything apart from my actual question
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: And you are basically just leading me to assume that you don't know the answer.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: But you obviously odn't know what to do if you can't fix his hax
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I'm totally convinced you are capable of level 1 basic security
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: As you've no doubt realised to your amusement, this entails something a little more complicated and sinister
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: iirc you asked how to manually detect something like that. my answer is that you're aren't capable of doing that so don't bother
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Ok, so how can I learn to be capable of doing that
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Remember, I also asked for a source, not just a 1 sentence answer
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Tech school.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, i pointed out how unrealistic the whole scenario is and advised you to take some basic steps to make sure you don't have any infections
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Ok, assume the pentagon got hacked. And their antivirus software didn't find the trojan.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: What would they do?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: years of hacking and maybe a degree, i guess
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: they would throw out the computer and start again.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Call in a specialist right?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thats why we spend so much money.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i doubt pentagon is running windows on their servers :P
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Sigh. I was just attempting to make the scenario more realistic. Since you apparently have a problem with hypothetical scenarios.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Ooh dagnir, i wonder what they're running!
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Actually, since you're being specific for some reason, the Pentagon/DoD/et al keep actual important stuff on seperate networks, to prevent this kind of thing.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: That was a bad example. I don't claim to be an expert in security.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I'm just analysing a situation where a hacker has a motive and the ability to write an undetected trojan.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Also, if you did get infected with a "hypothetical" virus, we don't know how to detect a 0-day vulnerbility, once again, that's the point of them.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: But it's a stupid scenario and you're acting butthurt because people point out how bad it is.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I understand what you are saying Riddim. But is there not something that could "theoretically" be done.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I'm not "butthurt" in the remotest.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: tech unsubscribe
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i can see your butt, it looks hurt.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Only person who was annoying was Vadar.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Yes, you reformat and stop being stupid with your super valuable data.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I'm still being annoying! He just has me muted lol.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Reformatting wouldn't get rid of a very good trojan though right?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: omg lol
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: now thats a bad question.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Reformatting will not cure id-10t infection, no
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you have other areas infected.. then it might come back
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: LOL
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it would get rid of trojans, but not all rootkits
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: okay, get a new computer
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: if you're worth millions, you can obviously afford it
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but seriously, give deep packet inspection a go. read manuals for a few weeks and learn something new
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Never said I was worth millions Riddim. And if I was, I wouldn't be advertising it on this channel.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: No, jsut the data on your computer is.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: THEY might be listening...
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: More specifically, your keystrokes.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I know you guys probably know more than me
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: But I think you are definitely incapable of thinking outside the box
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: That's what makes someone a very skilled hacker
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Alright, cheers. Go back to keeping your school networks pw protected.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, like the one who's after your coca-cola recipe
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: wait wait.. i've got it.. is your PC a Siebel Unranium enricher and you're in Iran?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, it's probably stuxnet tho
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it won't capture your screen and keystrokes tho. just messes with your uranium enrichment machinery
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: tea is the Coke secret ingrediant =P
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: real hackers have names like 0_dAy_waR3z, not something boring like "Dagnir"
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: some newspaper said it was alcohol and all the muslims went crazy
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Lol. 0_dAy_waR3z = real hacker? Lulz.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: ping sneak -t
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: omg i ddos u
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Omg I'm so scared.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Are there tags for note writing?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: tags?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yeah, I'm examining some of thesettings I got from Cheezburger and the spellup trigs look like they refer to a noteedit tag
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: http://theixle.dyndns.org/aardtin/aardwolf+tintin/spellup.tt
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I've never really tried to make them work like they're supposed to, but I keep meaning to :P
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: is it somehow possible in mush to do a trigger for the where mob:  mob       room  ...  to instantly do the mapper area command for the room?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Are you asking if it's possible for us to teach you how to make a script and become a bot? 
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: hm.. it doesn't seem botting..
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: it's not botting yet, but its Dangerously close.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: it seems legal as long as the script doesn't start combat with the target
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: you could very easly use that to make a bot.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: i understand.. but to do it manually all the time is a nuisance, thats all'
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It's legal, it's dangerous, and it can be a pain since the mob name (which you will want to use) often is cut off by the given space before the room name.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Have fun
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: i've been doing it manually for 3969 quests and 298 campaigns, lol.  It's not that bad.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: you should have incredible finger muscles by now:)
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: When making a portal in mapper. It asks me for my Portal level. This means the actual level of the portal? or the level of the area i'm porting to
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Level of portal.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the items listed level
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it'll consider your tier
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: aah ok, that way it knows i can wear the darned thing
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: bast spell up doesn't use auto stealth right? 
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Not sure about stealth, it does sneak OK though
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: yeah hehe
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: try 'bsp sadd stealth'
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Spell 'stealth' is not a spellup
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Oh, ok, looks like it doesn't do it then
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I've not used it, but according to bsp help you can force it to recognise skills using 'togglespellup'. That might do it.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: What level do i get stealth?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darth Vadar O
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I want
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: type showskill stealth
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: sexy, thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: and please ask these questions on QandA :)
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: i repair my client. is aardwolf.db the only file that needs to be replaced when only want the old mapper info back?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: mush
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irishdude Tech: can you hide info such as 'with a thunderclap, blah blah blah' etc
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: You can gag it in your client...
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irishdude Tech: how? juding by your '...' at the end, im guessing that's kinda hard?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: No, it was more that I question the value of doing it, but it's not that hard to do, dependent on what client you use.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irishdude Tech: I just started using this, and really don't see the point of getting bombarded with irrelavent info
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abergard Tech: can anyone give me advice on installing mush on osx through wine?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/MacLinux
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: So i want to make a cexit for knossos to automatically give steak to hobo, give silver to sayr and give the identification and passport to the guards. Is that possible?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i've been trying it. but when i execute it, i guess since it throws it too fast it wont let me actually do it.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yes - if you set the wait high enough and make sure you have invis on
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mapper cexit_wait 30
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: I made alias for that.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: it gives me this error though
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: No point doing this while you are speedwalking.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darth Vadar S
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: hmm :S
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I mean i got the steps perfectly down already
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i use mapper goto and everything
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: mapper goto 28197;buy steak;mapper goto 28205;enter shack;give steak hobo;e;mapper goto 28198;buy silver;mapper goto 28202;enter crack; give silver say;e;mapper goto 28216;give id guard;give pass guard
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: dont forget you have to unkeep the things you buy now...'
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Runs to store, buys steak, runs to shack, gives steak, runs to store, buys silver, runs to sayr, gives silver, goes to guard and gives all
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i dont have autokeep on what i buy
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah never did turn that on.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh?  how do you to that?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera grabs her stethoscope and looks for someone to play doctor with.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: do*
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bogstar chuckles at Siren Cera's joke.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: So my steps look solid right?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: how come its not working :(
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: scroll through the log and see what didnt work
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: it soo fails
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: the problem is it starts trying to do the first runto
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Or better said the first goto, then it automatically throws the rest out
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: instead of leaving it to queue.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i use manual paths in my speedwalks
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: looks like i'm going to have to..
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: sucks though, because that means i cant do it from any room
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: so the "buy steak" command occurs before you actually get to the room you want to is that correct?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: exactly
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: So the mapper says you shouldn't do that while your speedwalking.. wth
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and throws it out
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: So don't use the mapper, just do the path yourself?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: Yea I had similar problems, it seems really the only way to get around that is to do what winkle suggested with the cexit command and have it delayed.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i delayed it 30 seconds, and made no difference lol
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: really?? hrmmm
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: dont' use the mapper goto commands
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: because i never got there
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Winkle-2000 Idiocy Machine and Smurf Crusher.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yeah, i'm buildling the run se4se2s type commands now
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i think i finnaly got the cexit working :D
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yup!
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thanks everyone :D
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: somehow that sounds wrong :P
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: to a filthy mind everything sounds wrong :D
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: how do you pronouce cexit?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: see exit
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: c-exit
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: see exit?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: sea - exit
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Mendaloth exit
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: cool :) fixed that ;)
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: si exit
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yes exit.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevada Tech: on my mushclient i have a thing that says how much time until one tick.  i want to remove it.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you are above time?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: go file>plugins> then remove the tick timer
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i don't know why you don't want it though
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevada Tech: it just feels like a bug to me
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevada Tech: thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: because it counts in twos?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nevada Tech: that and i do  not usually have it on regular z mud, but since i got this new laptop...
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i never really understood why it counts in twos
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it counts in twos simply to save resources
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's nothing important about 1 second...the point is to know when a tick is coming, to do things like sleep on the tick
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i would think compared to big map/ group monitor or gmcp mapper that the resources were close to zero
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: have you seen the amount of traffic a 10 person group produces in gmcp
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've seen larger groups, yes
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well good! i was afraid you hadn't
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a simple change if you want more granularity, but as I said, it doesn't gain you anything real
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the counting itself is more like microsecond
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: my tick timer counts in 1's ?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: but I guess that's because I have the winkle-winkle tick timer!
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bertilak ducks defensively.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: heheh that you do!  I must post that on my site.. maybe now...
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hey i did post it already!  i must post the update!
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: tracks doubles and GQs
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, the whols change winkle made to have it count in 1s was to change second="2.00" to second="1.00" (although there's also the GQ features in his :-)
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: and the fidoing TPs to wink on every 50th tick
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: oops, he's afk again :)
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SchoolGirl Nykaedryn Tech: When an area says level locked at a certain level, does it mean you can still get in at that level or is that level the first where you can't walk in?
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SchoolGirl Nykaedryn Tech: Er, wrong chan.
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Bertilak (and the 45 others) I jsut updated tick timer on my site.. spellup plugin to follow  http://code.google.com/p/aardwolf-scriptalicious/downloads/detail?name=WinkleWinkle_Tick_Timer.xml
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: you are the man winkle, excited for this one
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've got so many lugins.. i need to start posting them.. my euipment plugin for instance
T3/r6/2012-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: note wrapper plugin
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Optopopit Tech: can I get help with mag?  it is not showing the bottom panel
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Optopopit Tech: looking for help with mag plugin for mudlet.  anybody know about this?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klepto Krypteria Tech: anyone here
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger shakes his head.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klepto Krypteria Tech: someone that knows about BBSSH?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: black berry ssh?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Just ask the question, ssh clients are pretty simple
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klepto Krypteria Tech: yeah
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger nods at Ixle.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klepto Krypteria Tech: can I use mccp on it
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Not unless you connect to a computer running a client with mccp
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: afaik
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: If you're ssh'ing right into the mud like telnet, no. If you're ssh'ing into a computer, you use whatever client is running on your computer
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klepto Krypteria Tech: oh...
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Klepto Krypteria Tech: get BBSSH fravardin, much better then mxit
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pompidou Tech: Anyone knows if the search & destroy plugin from WinkleWinkle works with the newest Aard mushclient version?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juchas Tech: heya, my invmon is not counting newely skinned items. Any ideas where lies the problem? I use Mushclinet v. 4.75
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pompidou Tech: is the winklewinkle spellup plugin better or the bast?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: hey guys
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: anyone have a flat screen tv?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: like those samsung stuff
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: anyway. how do i switch on the power?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: there's no big button!
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: the button with the circle with the half line through it?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: press a channel on the remote
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: exactly. i cannot find it. the tv is smooth.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: eh, read the instruction book? :P my samsung has the button on top of the tv.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: all the controls are on the top, rather than the front.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: hey thanks. i'll look again. its not my home >_< and my brother is out of reach. and its just me and my mudclient....
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yep rtfm is an option too
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: lol. i always tell people to rtfm, but yea. im not in ideal conditions >_
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: did you find it?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: its a white elephant. the tv. i lawl.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: You make no sense.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: soz. bbl.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celdyn Tech: Any bast experts on?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: dont even know what bast is sry
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celdyn Tech: My computer fried itself now i'm trying to start over with bast mush
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: what is the problem?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: protip: you get faster answers to questions if oyu just ask them
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Tukkun
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celdyn Tech: I can't remember the command to activate hunt against my map
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: autohunt?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: there is an explanation of the plugins on bast's site
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celdyn Tech: Yeah i have this old version of bast and have lost about 20% of my map
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: so you want your map or you want the hunt?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celdyn Tech: Hunt! I can rebuild my map in time
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I dont know a lot of bast myself. only trying to help.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ok i'll check basts
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the site mentions the command auto to hunt
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ha guard
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: to autohunt a guard
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celdyn Tech: Yeah there is a command that changes how your map works so that you auto hunt mobs with room descs
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: what?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: What, not as in, "what is the command" but as in "what are you talking about"
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: I don't understand what you mean by hunting with room descs
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celdyn Tech: ht guard will cycle through all guards until it finds the right one and the room it's in then you just hit F8 and run there
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Livonya Tech: and your F8 is macroed to?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celdyn Tech: That is the problem my client was all set up by someone else and now that my computer has fried itself i have no idea how to make it work hehe
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bad practice to use a client you haven't set up
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celdyn Tech: Hindsight is a complete biatch
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pompidou Tech: When I type next in Kingsholm, part of the seals, I get a lot of goto - 1    No point doing this while you are speedwalking.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pompidou Tech: I have completed the goal though
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pompidou Tech: and I am using the aard mush version with winklewinkle and bast's plugins
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "next" is a command in winkle's plugin
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pompidou Tech: ahh, ok. How can I fix that?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: can just use <space>next
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: so. next
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pompidou Tech: thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: even after 10 versions, adobe acrobat is still a crock of poo
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes it is
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: bloated poo
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's also destroying rainforests
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: how so?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: by screwing up character sets midway through a 40 page document print out, neccessitating the wasting of paper
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: haha winkle!
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: anyone know where to find an autoquaff plugin for mush?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i think they are classified as almost botting.. if they aren't classified completely as botting
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: Really? I know cmud has them :/
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: Having it, does'nt make it legal.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: It isn't botting by itself: if you combine it with idling in a room where you could even potentially get attacked, it is.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah it's when it's used and your'e not at your screen
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav nods at WinkleWinkle.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: the same would be said without the plugin though....but then you might just die.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you had a deadman switch it'd be legal
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i suppose
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if you don't have a deadman switch you are going to die when you run out of pots anyway
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Just don't idle in aggro rooms
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's not rocket surgery
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i love that phrase.. 
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: it's not rockin science
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: right.so...then the plugin isnt illegal unless the actions associated with it are
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I totally want to get into rocket surgery.  The only question is, is it surgery ON rockets, or WITH rockets?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i always assumed the former.. but that latter sounds like LOTS MROE FUN
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You mean rockin surgery?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That sounds more fun
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: most people's faces are considered botting
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i dont' even understand that
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: They kill things automatically?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: buuuuurn
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juchas Tech: anyone got a idea why my invmon isn't working on newely skinned items. Could it be an interferrence with a specific plugin perhaps?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I'm running MUSHclient off of a USB drive. Why do all of a sudden i have a RED outline around my client??
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: in windows 7.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: wierd stuff..
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Anyone have that before?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no just the one time my computer exploded
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Well anyways i have a Real important question
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no just kidding. Sorry Vadar dont know what it is
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Since i run my MUSHclient off of a USB drive i added the S&D plugin by WinkleWinkle. How do i make it so no matter what drive letter the computer assigns it, it will still point to the right plugin file?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: or can i make it so that my USB is ALWAYS named Z:\?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you add it via CONTROL_SHIFT_P it should be a relative path.. 
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ctrlshiftp...
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you add it to World plugins.. it's an absolute path
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: its wierd, cause i did that the first time on my laptop.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: well, i have it back up.. so i guess i'll just use it and see what happens.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Migash Tech: so I upgraded mush and now I cant handle items by their ID number. Any idea why and how can I fix this?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: should mush scripts be sent to world or execute ?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on what they're doing
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yes usually.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: say aliases to change gear
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, an a-b question isn't usually a yes/no answer ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're doing nesting of aliases, such that one alias is calling another, then you need send to execute
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're just using variables, then send to world is fine
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: get it now...thanks so much
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: trying to transfer files from old version of mush to new one --- i am unable to locate aardwolf.mcl file in old version can it be called anything else?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Well, it'll probably be another .mcl file...
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: i am using win 7 and i dont see any file extenstions
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: It should be in the 'worlds' folder
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: i see plugins and an aardwolf green icon in the worlds folder
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: you can show file extensions in win 7 btw
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: click organize, folder and search options, view, show extensions
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: thanks that helped but still unable to locate file
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Thooven: MUSHclient>worlds
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: nod but when i get to that -- all i see is -- Plugins --- and a green media player icon named aardwolf
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's the aardwolf.mcl
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: did you enable file extensions like suggested before?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: it shows on right click but not on screen
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: thank you for help -- i need to shut down to finsh --- 
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: ty again turie and myrkul
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: and mokg
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: .mcl shows up as a Windows Media file for some reason.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Nod. Just right clicke open w/ whatever you use to text edit.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's a windows media center extension, apparently
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: thanks again that worked
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: yes myrkul that is what i was seeing
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: was trying to follow pics on aardwolf web site 
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: "Windows Media Center used to highly utilize files with the .mcl file extension to register entry points."
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagin' Bevo Tech: i cant see levels behind equip at the moment. what changed/how do i get it back please?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: try noobjlevel
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rampagin' Bevo Tech: thanks!
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelied Tech: anyone know how to view my login history
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Not stored in a user accessible location, except your last login is logged and displayed with MOTD right?  Only one who would have it is a friend who logs everything.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelied Tech: shoot ohh well. i bet the person running the server has it all
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well yeah - that's why I said user accessible, what are you trying to do, why do you need it?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelied Tech: it seems someone accessed my account from a diff state and i wanna know when
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelied Tech: but i lost connection before i could get the time and date
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: change your password and write to lasher
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well if you suspect something nefarious, you could send a note to imm on personal and they might be able to look into it.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: But yeah change your password here, and I'd make sure you have a secure email linked too.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adelied Tech: thank you
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: By the way is it possible your ISP uses some sort of connection that resolves to another state?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: when u stack commands with mush is there a way to cancel the stcked commands?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I've always wondered if you could.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: reconnect
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Will something go off on a trigger?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: wow badly worded question lol
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: It will get stacked.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Your only recourse is to disconnect and reconnect to the client.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Is there a way to manually set off a trigger using another trigger?
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: sounds like you want an alias, not a trigger
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: nope, its a trigger.
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, make it an alias
T3/r6/2012-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can call an alias from a trigger
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tregus Tech: example
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tregus Tech: exam
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tregus Tech: Oops, doing this on my freaking phone is difficult lol
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: yeah tablets are better
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tregus Tech: yeah, makes sense
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tregus Tech: speaking of which, is there a link on the aard site that has prebuilt button sets for the mobile client?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you mean aardwolf rpg, it's a blowtorch with some prebuilt buttons set up
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Is gaardian or any other clan actively expanding area maps for the rooms.gaardian website?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umiman Tech: does anyone know how to make the main window of the aardwolf mushclient thing not newguide
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umiman Tech: oops, ignore that
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umiman Tech: off
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Anyone can recommend a decent free registry cleaner that isn't FOS
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: why would you even need one ?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Why not? It fixes errors in your registry and makes it run faster
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: isnt cleaning the rigistry a good thing ?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: 'fixes errors'.. probably, but not that likely
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: 'makes it run faster' - that's not correct at all
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: They do other things apart from just clean the registry
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: best way to clean your registry is to reinstall your os from scratch
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: safest, too
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anadorr nods at Tigernuts.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ccleaner?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: tried ccleaner?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: can you confirm ccleaner is free and doesn't try making me pay for it as soon as it's run a scan?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: I find ccleaner ok
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: That's the main problem I'm having right now =P
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I use it myself. It's free
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: yep gregor
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: ty
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Anyone can remind me where MUSH mapper DB saves maps?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: MUSHclient/Aardwolf.db
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: thanks!
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Anyone know why PID's given to me in nestat -o wouldn't show up in Task Manager?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: netstat*
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have the checkbox set to show processes from all users?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I don't know. But it's definitely checked now....and no difference....
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Maybe the list in task manager is not exhaustive though?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I'm only on the services tab, is there somewhere better I can look?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I just want a complete list of PID's so I can compare them to my netstat output and see which connections are made by which programs
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want the processes tab, not the services tab
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Ty, but any idea why the process tab doesn't display any PID's whatsoever?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cuz you didn't tell it to
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: view
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: thanks a lot!
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can also use tasklist -v in cmd
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so can pipe to a file
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: great, thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: services tab is for things registered to auto-run in the background...so things like mushclient & MSIE wouldn't be there, but would be in your netstat output
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Yeah, I had a feeling that was the case. Sevices just happened to be the only tab displaying PID's by default.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: ahahahhaa U R all sandboxed
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: not me
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: maybe honeypotted tho
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: sandboxed ? 
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: means you are inside a sandbox n u cnt hax me
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I couldn't code my way out of a wet paper bag 
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: from your languange, sounds like you are in a sandbox
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: no u
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr pats Gregor on his head.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: you shoot him in the leg n I'll wait for the others =P
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: How to reload bast spell up again
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: reload? do you mean add all the spells again? or do you mean actually reload the plugin?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: reload the plugin, it stopped working o.o
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: plugins reload bsp
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and if that doesn't fix it then also "plugins reload bsst"
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: second one fixed it.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dommer Tech: Does anyone know how to set mushclient so that when I press the down arrow it scrolls through my text box instead of trying to replace the text with a ?  ?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: we need more parents like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kl1ujzRidmU
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You talking about the parent that basically blow up the computer because what his kid posted on Facebook?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: yup
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: eathanise that wicked parent
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: and technically it was his laptop, she didn't buy it
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: needless wanton destruction of technology is a crime against supply and demand and the use of resources
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no lack of supply...
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: wrong, the oil reserves are diminishing 
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: there should probably be a better method of communication than blowing up laptops with weapons. :P
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's not exactly true, Zade.  We're only running out of the easy and cheap oil.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the communication came prior to that
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: they aren't diminishing
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: work went into producing that product -- wasting that work is a crime against humanity, a crime against slaving workers
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this handled both the punitive and the therapeutic in one fell swoop
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: uh zade, you do realize we live in the world of "everything is disposable" right?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if we ignored cost and difficulty of extraction, we have enough oil to operate at current and expected future trends for the next 500 years.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: that wanton crime increased the pollution - the recycling of that damaged computer is unlikely
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: according to what information, zade?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it wouldn't have been recycled anyways.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: 500 years is not a long time at year +501
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's at least 4 generations.  Long enough for whatever transistion we'd need to go through at the end.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Zade: You are a kid is why you think it is bad. To be honest, I am quite happy the guy did that.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I'm an adult and I think it is horrid. :P What type of message is that sending? Anytime anything pisses you off, shoot it with a gun? How long until he shoots his kid. :P
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if that was so, and if he buys another computer, that is an extra computer that is not recylcled -- more landfill polution, less resources, more work wasted -- that wicked parent does not deserve to live (and the world is overpopulated, so ...)
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: we have too many parents who just let their kids get away with everything just cause they are in the "rebellious" stage
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the laptop didn't piss him off in the least
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: You can take the computer away. Why destroy it? Why go over the top in aggression?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Most kids today are out of control little brats.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: (I'm not one of them, but I observe)
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Zade is just trolling.  Trolls think Aard is boring, so they try to make it interesting.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any toy I find on the stairs, or within a few feet of the top of the stairs, is immediately put into the trash
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Jaenelle: I think it's so that his daughter pays him back for it
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: They're teh same as kids 20 or 30 yaers ago. :P it's like all music today is bad. :P Which is the same thing our parents thought years ago.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kids have WAY too much entitlement
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zade is very serious and ecology conscious
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and he DID take the laptop away for 3 months
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they are entitled to a little corporal punishment.  The rule of thumb still applies, you know.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Someone's trolling here, and I don't think it's Zade.  :)
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hanslanda: that's not often the case
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did you get everything you're entitled to as a kid, Biker? :P
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i don't have a gun, but if my daughter did that after being caught once before, i'd use the sledge hammer :)
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my childhood was a fair bit of time before the current trend
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: either that or format it and give it to charity
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: either way
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Sammael is a "brat" by calling (most) kids brats -- likely a "brat" predator seeking to ruin kids with sadistic austere measures
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i was a privelaged only child, but i agree with this guy, what does that make me?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: hmm just watched that bloke kill the laptop .. 
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: honorary texan?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noose Tech: hypocrite hahaha jk
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it makes you a better parent than yours were }:>
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: the difference is, my parents taught me that actions have consequences
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: the family needs mediation ...
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i was privelaged, but you better believe i was punished when i did things i had been told not to do
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need for mediation, kid has no rights to the computer
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: imo one over reaction does not justify another 
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noose Tech: she didnt listen the first time
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what overreaction?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since when is plinking a reaction at all?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: going out to the fields & shooting off a few rounds at random stuff that isn't owned by someone else is a great way to spend an afternoon
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noose Tech: as long as noone gets hurt it can be a blast
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the crime against society was the needless destruction of the laptop (to get publicity and attention and fame infamy), not the removal of the laptop usage from the child
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noose Tech: what does it matter what he did with his own property you didnt pay for it
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: my dad is pretty strict and I hope I never feel like that about my position in my family but if it was getting that bad I would hope one of us would point it out before it reached the lets break stuff level.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: his laptop, his perogative...people often shoot their old cars, etc as well
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: just seems childish 
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i shot my old wife
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tzad, she just got it back after not having the laptop for 3 months...it was pointed out
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: what crime against society do you see, the father owned the laptop, he could do whatever he wanted to do with it?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I get the repeat offender bit 
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Could we move this to debate.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noose Tech: and now more people have a job 
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Biker, firing more lead into the ecology is a crime against the enviroment and society
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at her.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lead is ecologically-neutral
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Go to debate.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I just think it is a less than functional reaction. 
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the fact that you (may) "own" something does not mean you may do what you want with that something
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noose Tech: actually yes it does
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Oladon asked this to be moved to debate.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: I don't ask. Let them talk, and then we'll start handing out chanbans.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Putin and company "owned" some Polonium -- when that radiactoive poison turned up in western europe, the europeans were not pleased
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Um...Zade I think I would move what you are saying to debate channel.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: unsubscribe
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Access Optical Networks (AON) is on the verge of creating a cheapish holographic storage device that can store 1 terabyte in 1 cubic centimeter (currently they can already do this at about $1/gigabyte and can max out the process at 10 terabytes).
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I need that for my mp3 player
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they've been on the verge of that for 10 years now...we'll see when things actually come to market
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What will be next for processing power?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah i'll beleive it when i see it
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: quantum computing is the next milestone we need to cross
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: winkle winkle
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: winkle winkle
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: winkle winkle
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mmm, I wants me some Google Glasses--front-facing camara with transparent LCD or AMOLED lenses, a cellphone, access to the Google Cloud...I have a feeling this is just a newbie hazing project to see if said newbie has the chops to work for google.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nagatna Tech: So I need help with making a trigger. I think is what it is. A Hunt Trigger
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nagatna Tech: and I use MushClient
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: You are on a quest, so you obviously want a hunt trigger in less than 40 minutes
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nagatna Tech: Oh. I can find the target without the hunt trigger
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nagatna Tech: I just rememeber having one like seven years ago when I mudded. Where when I type hunt mob, it would run me the direction that it sensed.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nagatna Tech: though I think on that mud it was track instead of hunt.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: likely a plugin somewhere
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Finger Bast for a MUSHclient version.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: how to use bast plugin to hunt? What is the command?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: ha <mob>
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nagatna Tech: actually I think I just figured it out. * is aliace in Aardwolf right?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nagatna Tech: I mean variable.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nagatna Tech: where would you input the plug ins?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'm trying to use tintin++'s #textin {filename} {delay} command to write a note and either I get booted off the mud if I don't provide a delay or it locks up if I provide any delay. Anyone got a clue on this?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: wow ppl still use tintin!
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Well I shouldn't say "any" delay, I've only tried 1/10/100
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: They made a whole movie about it.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle chuckles at Fnord's joke.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: ok screw it copy/pasting it
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: welcome to Occam's world =P
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nagatna Tech: ah whatever. Supposidly Mushclient is suppose to have an autohunt program. I cannot find it of course.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mushclient doesn't come with one.  Finger Bast to get his.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nagatna Tech: Yeah know what. I was using Bast's incorrectly the first time. I got it now though.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone know of a good pay -> download script (preferably php)
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Huh, I never knew Google had reverse image searching.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Phillip Tech: where at?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Phillip Tech: nvm found it
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: google goggles for android/iphone does that too, but on a much more advanced scale.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I always used tineye, but google is finding stuff tineye doesn't.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vegan Tech: how do i get mapper for fiendish's mush to open doors? its just running into them in already mapped areas
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Use cexits
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Anybody ever have a weird bug with windows 7 where you windows+tab to something and the window just disappears?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you mean completely closed out, or are you talking about it showing for a quick sec then going back to the background?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i only hope it happens to you in gqs i am alos in
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: so 40 minutes ago.
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mix
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: how do you make a certain plugin so that it shows in the background?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: huh?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vegan Tech: he wants to backround a miniwindow i think
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: yeah
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oh
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: right click on the window usuallt
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there a way to setup an alias in lion
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: wanting setup an alias to ssh to different devices on my network
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tregus Tech: you mean OS X 10.7?
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tregus Tech: ah, yes you can create aliases in Lion but SSH to different devices might be a bit iffy
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tregus Tech: I'd suggest looking at apple.com/support and searching smb connections, might be a lil more reliable
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: it needs to be ssh :(
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tregus Tech: ah, gimme a bit Holli
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: holliday, when in terminal, go to file -> save as
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: give it a name & a location, radio button execute this command, type in ssh user2.34.56.78, check execute command in shell
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err user@12.34.56.78
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ok editing the .bash_profile in home directory worked :) its not .bashrc like in ubuntu
T3/r6/2012-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, you were just looking for typed aliases, not double-clickable filesystem aliases
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MacOS has used the term "alias" the way windows uses "shortcut" forever, so was thinking that way
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: correct :)
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: sorry about that Abe, but yes was looking for cli aliases
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: course first thing I do is set my shell to tcsh, then I create a ~/.aliases file sourced from my .cshrc :-)
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: is anyone good with Tibco JMS EMS messaging stuff?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vegan Tech: anyone good with DEL TACO fedexing stuff?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never heard of it
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ok well now that I have this setup I am very very very very happy with my purchase
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what mac didja get?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: bought this cheap 2bay nas, but its 1ghz 2bay nice hardward - but limited by the software
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: rooted and now installed nzbget and sickbeard and transmission straight to the nas
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: python + gcc + whatever I want :) very happy with it now
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: its a "netgear stora"
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ugh. Netgear, the little Cisco wannabe that couldn't o.0
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: heh
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delpol Tech: is there a clever/easy way to capture a sequence of commands i'm actually about to type into an alias?  sort of like going into macro-record mode?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tregus Tech: what system?  you mean in Mushclient?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: instead of typing them as a command, type them as an alias definition...
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you're using cmud, actions -> record alias
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delpol Tech: actually tintin++
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tregus Tech: not sure on that one, just type as command the first time, copypasta, etc.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try #alias shorthand then start typing commands
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delpol Tech: i guess i figured i wouldn't know what it was going to be before hand, but i suppose that shouldn't be too hard
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trebid Tech: how can i make my main screen scroll so i can check back on things instead of retyping
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I purchased a small hd tv and everytime I try and watch netflix on it via hdmi out, the computer freezes up. No other streaming video is doing that though. Any ideas?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: is there a way to use arrow keys for movement in Mush?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Got a numpad?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: no, laptop
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: you can use the numpad
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If not, you need to add in accelerators for the arrow keys
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arelix Tech: spend $2.99 on a usb numpad
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: but I would say don't, bc then you couldn't navigate text
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arelix Tech: www.amazon.com/    I had to get one when I was using my laptop primarly
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arelix Tech: primarily*
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I myself bought a fancy bluetooth numpad for my lappy :-) Love it.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arelix Tech: even better!
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: hmm I may have a usb keyboard I can plug in and use
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: I'd suggest just buying a numpad, gives you even more keys for macros
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: not to mention they're super useful for non mud activities
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Hmm havstand
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Ooops
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: any recommendations on computer monitors (or TVs that will be used as monitors)? mine just bit the dust..
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: do share :)
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sharp and samsung both make nice led monitors and tellies
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: though if you buy one of their tv's you'll need to pay the license fee
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: license for what?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: oh, not in us unless they roll that into the cost
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: better to go with a monitor or a tv? (really wouldn't use for anything other than computer unless tv bites the dust, too)
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: monitors are generally better quality/higher resolution than TVs
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: license for a tv
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and if you're using a cable/sat box and not the TV's tuner, lack of tuner doesn't matter
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course it's tough to find a 42" monitor ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: lol.. i'm using one of those right now where my monitor used to stand.. sitting *WAY* too close to it
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: im using a 32" tv for a monitor...it's working so far so good, although i dont do a lot of work (reading) from it
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: just need a vid card w hdmi cable slot
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, monitors scale the pixels with the size...TVs go to HD and then just make the pixels bigger
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: what's the end result of that?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: tv stretches the picture and monitor does not?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can put more windows on bigger monitors, but pretty much all HD TVs, regardless of size, would show the same number of windows
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Abelinc is hiding his 60" HDTV.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: So if I output my netbook to my HDTV, it won't add windows?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: wont add space to my mudding experience?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: im using a two monitor set up at work now, that's my favorite
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You need to have something similar what Ubuntu has. It has multi-workspaces.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your HDTV is higher resolution than your netbook, so you can put more stuff on that
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ah cool
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elena Tech: Assuming the netbook's graphic's card can support it
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: probably not
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: but we can totally go for it.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but, say, a small HDTV vs a 60" HDTV, generally will have the same resolution, so same pixels, so same amount of information/windows
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whereas small monitor vs big monitor will have different resolutions
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: we all know the best way to buy a monitor is to measure the biggest possible size that can possibly fit in the space, and buy one that big
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, our TV is currently a 26" viewsonic...we still have one of the old entertainment centers with the "hole" for the TV in the middle...described as for up to 32" TVs at the time...when our old CRT TV died & we were looking for a new one, since TV aspect ratios changed from 4:3 to 16:9 (went to widescreen), we had to go smaller...and searched for one with the speakers on the bottom instead of on either side of the screen
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: dam, i have a 72 inch dlp lol
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: dam i got that new feel and touch tv
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: next time we get a TV, the entertainment center goes out the door & we'll either do wallmount or get one of the table dealies
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: FEEL and touch?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thats amazing!
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: outside?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that one's huge
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: naw, it fills up the whole family room
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no point buying a tv for a monitor here, cos you have to stump up $200 a year license for it
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: a license.. for?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you pay 200/year for every TV you own?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I didint know this.. why?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elena Tech: Where are you at that you need to pay a license fee?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: uk
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Dam that sucks
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i have 4 tv's lol
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: everything is taxed here, including being ill
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and 7 computers.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: disability? you get taxed. need to get somewhere to get to work? taxed
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: they aren't all functioning. but hey
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tax I could see, but a yearly fee isn't a tax
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: it isn't per tv
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you have a job? jobs are taxed
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: it is per household
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, so chances are you'd already have some sort of TV, so using another TV as a monitor shouldn't change it
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there were rumours that they'd start charging households $200 a year if they owned a PC/laptop/mobile internet device
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: it pays for the bbc ... worth it just for radio 4 says I :)
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vegan Tech: in mush how can i make a trigger that starts on "**" when not meaning to have those be wildcards?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Escape it with /*
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vegan Tech: so /**? or /*/*?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: second
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vegan Tech: obiged
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: isn't it (\*\*)?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: or rather
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: ^\*\*
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: the question mark would indicate that its optional
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never that last one
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless you're expressly checking regex
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: We talking regex in this situation?  
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: By default triggers aren't regex and are anchored
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and * isn't wildcard in regex
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vegan Tech: no idea.. just have: /*/* You can take revenge on * for 15 minutes. and it send c righteous on firing.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Careful with that Vegan
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vegan Tech: why?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'm not an imm, but check out help botting - that sounds bottish.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vegan Tech: it only triggers on revenge, and seeing as i dont afk in open world pk rooms, cant see any problem
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: but you *could* afk in an open world pk room
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can get revenge in non-PK rooms
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: for purposes of policy, could does not count.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: it might not be intentional, but it could happen
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vegan raises an eyebrow at you.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vegan Tech: i cant see how its different from an auto-cure blindness.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I see it as a self-terminating trig, so I wouldn't have a problem with it myself
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: curing blindness doesn't put you in combat with another person or mob
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: either he dies afk and ends up in morgue, in which case it won't fire again, or his melee kills the attacker
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: neither does casting righteous
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vegan Tech: well if i have revenge flagged the trigger isnt putting me into combat as im already in it
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a spellup
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vegan seems to think you have the right idea.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you're not necessarily in combat with revenge
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vegan Tech: i cant think of an instance when i would have revenge but not be in combat (aside from strangle/sleep maybe?)
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: back to the ways to get revenge when not in PK rooms...you can be attacked in non-PK rooms when you're wanted...if you're in non-PK room afk, people can see you there & set you wanted to get the easy PK...
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ways to get revenge without being in combat with the person you have revenge on, would be them casting something on a mob you're fighting
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vegan Tech: being attacked when wanted does not give revenge
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vegan finally understood what you are talking about!
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and can't entrap a room with someone else in it, so you can't be entrapped when afk
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vegan nods.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evilness Tech: anyone able to answer an iphone 4, itunes question?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: whats up.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evilness Tech: when i plug it into my laptop, there is not a ringtone section
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evilness Tech: is there a way to enable it?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evilness Tech: any idea sneak?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Huh, it is default in iTunes
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: what version of iTunes are you using
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evilness Tech: eh bah i found it, it was toggled off in general settings
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Lol
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evilness Tech: yea, forgot to check there 1st...
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: happens to the best of us.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: whats a good way to set a note for yourself the moment you hit lvl 80/90 ect.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i want to set seperate notes for each moment.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elena Tech: A simple trigger should do, shouldn't it?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Anyone know the level up message?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol :S
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elena Tech: bid 242
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elena Tech: That's not it. ;)
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Vadar: Finger Bast
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: You raise a level! You are now level 150.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Search mud messages on wiki
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thanks lytebane, i appreciate it.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Apple files preliminary injunction to block sale of Samsung Galaxy Nexus in US
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Apple is afraid of losing market shares to Google's Android.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: how to use bast's spellup plugin? what's the command?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arelix Tech: i'd never trade my andriod for an iphone..
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Apple is the new Microsoft.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Obsolete?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: dont say that!
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: apple is way more evil
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: me either
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i find it funny how bill gates is still considered to be the bad guy and steve jobs a saint by lots of people
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ciarin Tech: closed source bs, its all evil
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Apple will lose people if they keep this up.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ciarin Tech: didnt bill bail out apple in the late 80's or early 90's?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: you're funny
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I personally like Android over IPhones.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: only if you drink stallman's kool-aid
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Did you guys know Google wants 2.25% of each iPhone's gross for usign its patent
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ciarin Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Talk about hypocrisy.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ciarin Tech: its a timeline of patent infringment
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lol, apple is the biggest patent troll bully right now. serves them right
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ciarin Tech: agreed
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: ....
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It was August 6, 1997, Microsoft was being sued by the federal government, and Apple was struggling. No one had even heard of an iPod. Apple CEO Steve Jobs announced to the company's shareholders that Microsoft was buying $150 million in non-voting shares of Apple stock, and guaranteeing to support Office for the Mac for five years. In exchange, Apple agreed to drop a lawsuit against Microsoft and to make Internet Explorer the default browser on Mac OS.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'll agree the whole patent debate is getting silly and we could agrue all day about who threw the first stone.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: You guys obviously haven't read up on it.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: they're Motorola patents, and Apple uses it under some fair-use agreement
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Google is trying to dumb that fair-use agreement
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: sorry, dump.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think the whole patent system is borked
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: so...... yeah.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Of course it is.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: This is no different than Superpacs, "he's doing it so I have to do it to"
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: especially when every other laptop and every other phone and every other tablet is an almost exact physical copy of an Apple product
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Go to Japan. Patents are not as strong in the US.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Well regardless of whether you think it's borked, if you don't do it people will go rampant and steal what is esentially your IP.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: find me an ultrabook that doesn't look like the macbook air.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: That's why every company will attempt to fight patent infringement no matter how trivial it seems.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and google isn't trying to ban competitive products from being sold 
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: There's a reason for stuff like GNU
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: as if companies couldn't innovate on design.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: and GPL
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: "Look Apple's design is amazing, let's just steal it"
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what's so special about the design?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Sorry not GNU
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I wonder if Apple will be around in 20 years.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: If you can't see then you just can't appreciate it.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: wrong acronym
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Ask every company that's copying their design.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Which is nearly every.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's like the omg, tablets look like ipads thing. how are they supposed to look then? should they make them round or something?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: They could.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: When someone holds a phone and then looks at an iphone and they can't tell the difference in the design touches - then it's hard to get them to appreciate apple products in general without coming off snobby.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Or they could make it square?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: btw, do you know how to tell if someone owns an apple product?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: They brag about it.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just wait, they'll tell you themselves
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: mmm yes, good way to deal with a man's arguments, attack him instead of the idea
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: genius, I wish I had thought of it myself
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm not a huge fan of any of the companies, but i think it's not fair to complain about patent trolling when the supposed victim is doing it as well
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: You seem to have some kind of agenda. All companies patent troll.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: It's just how the patent game works.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: You have to protect your IP.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nokia doesn't
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Google bought up which company so they would have patents to fight back with.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Motorola.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Nokia is also a failing company.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: rim has been peaceful
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: RIM is dying.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Who sold off most of its patents and abandoned its oS.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: RIM is also dying.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: RIM is dying.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: samsung, then?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, check this out - http://infobeautiful2.s3.amazonaws.com/whos_suing_whom.png
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Samsung what.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Nearly all their offerings are physical copies
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also pay attention on the reasons of suing
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Does it matter, when most Samsung products are copies?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so what, sneak? should they make triangular or round phones? all smartphones look a like
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Too bad Xerox cannot sue Apple for stealing Icons.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Smartphones didn't look like the iPhone before the iPhone
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Everyone knows that.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: besides, samsung had an phone with iphone look before the iphone came out
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: There's a diff between smartphones looking alike and then then samsung blatantly copying it.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wasn't in production iirc, but the design was there
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: btw, android development started a few years before the iphone ;)
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Makes you wonder.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: is it worth holding out for ICS, or just getting the skyrocket / note and hoping it supports ICS?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: I take it your talking about ice cream sandwich for android?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: I would hold out and make sure what you purchase supports it.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i would always pick skyrockets in flight over afternoon delight
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not Guilty Kojiro hugs Winkle-2000 Idiocy Machine and Smurf Crusher.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle enthusiastically high-fives Winkle-2000 Idiocy Machine and Smurf Crusher!
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bertilak boggles at Winkle-2000 Idiocy Machine and Smurf Crusher.
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no but really, i've got to get a smartphone now so might as well go 4g, but i'm on att
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: and grandfathered under unlimtied data, so figure i stay instead of switch to vz for galaxy nexus
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I got a nill error in Bast's plugin for the stats window style.text = string.format(" %02d:%02d", mins, secs)
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I assume it's because at some point I had a gquest error and it didn't update time - but how do I fix it.  Reloading hasn't fixed it
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: has anyone uploaded an image to photobucket recently and knows where the upload button has disappeared to in the remake?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: or alternatively a good image hosting site? i can't even find the image links on my old uploads
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: imgur
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Why does Apple put sooo many conditions on their password, and not let me chose one that I've used in the last year
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: They are stupid dodo heads?
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: so eventually they can charge people who forget passwords
T3/r6/2012-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'll accept that as an answer.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Is there a way to use grep to only list the files with matches, instead of every line match? (I'm being too lazy to read the entire man file)
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delpol Tech: grep -l or grep -L  ??  
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Thanks.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delpol Tech: did it work?  i actually am very unsure of that
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: just updated Bast's plugins -- change log says "statmn now does exp/min -- anyone know where this reports to?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Using MUSH, is there a way to make a trigger link a clickable hyperlink to a mapper goto <#>. Or would it have to be done in a script?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Anyone can recommend some good free portscanning software?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: If you're looking for whoever put id-10t on your computer, I think scanning your ports is looking in the wrong place.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: are you still looking for super 0-day vulnerbility hax?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Shrug, there are 0-day vulns about for download on the dark web if you know where to look
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: well, more or less 0-day
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: that's not the point
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I'm asking if anyone can recommend a good port-scanner that's free
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: nmap
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: But seriously, you should talk to a psychologist about paranoid delusions.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Shrug
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Better safe than sorry
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: and besides, I find it interesting
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: it aint paranoid its "situationally aware"
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: have you used nmap personally?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nmap, wireshark, lithium
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: thx
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: is there anyway to turn debugging on in mush?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: anyone to turn debugging on in mush?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akhenaton Tech: anyone good at zmud scripting wants to help me ?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Covenant gasps at Akhenaton's actions, uttering "Oh My Bot!"
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akhenaton Tech: does it mean "you're good at it" or "you suck at it" ?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Covenant strums his guitar over the picture of Akhenaton.  'Hear the story of Speedy Botzales!'
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akhenaton Tech: i want to sort my variables stored in a stringlist, ie. i have 43 34 413, wanted to sort them like 34 43 413 
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: this might be an obvious question... Is the VNUM of a room the same number as ID with the mapper (mapper thisroom)?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: don't think so
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: ahhh ok.  good thing I asked then =). ty kindly
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: no
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: vnums are now, for example, something like aylor-0 or aylor-12, etc.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Like you have a cavity or is it something random?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What the heck!?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei looks at Mendaloth but draws a blank.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Mischan - reading and writing on two different channels :)
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: gotcha.  And only IMMs really know the vnums?  I ask because I am lookin at different spots for my manor =)
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you send an imm a tell after you find a location, they can tell you what it is
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: Excellent.  TYVM =)
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If one's not visible, you can just use the speedwalk from the first room.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: ahh ok.  that'll make it easier then
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: (Mush) Is it possible to use anything other than what they have designated for a macro?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Yes, but they're called acclerators
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you have to use an acclerator to create anything other than the keys in the macro panel
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: Where would I find this?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: look it up in the mush documentation, then create an alias that sends to script to add an accelerator
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Can also use your scripting prefix, and use the Accelerator() function from the command line.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Is how I usually do it
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maglight Tech: Does somebody use emacs?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: isnt that really old
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: isn't it crazy how you can work out someones IP by sending them a file in skype?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: really?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: yup
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: what can you do with that info?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: you can then trace roughtly where they live
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can work it out with any direct connection tool...
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can see the IPs of the people you're getting torrents from as well
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: that's true, but should something like skype directly connect?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: but you cant really do much with ips if they have a firewall and antivirus right?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the firewall and the AV
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I can see the benefits of directly connecting, but isn't that considered a security flaw?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: if i have windows firewall and avast. there's pretty much nothing you can do right?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you're the security flaw, if you're moving files to/from someone you don't know/trust
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: a lot of the time, it's a router's IP you are seeing anyway.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not right, vadar
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: that's true, I just figured the average person is not aware that they are broadcasting their IP to random people on skype
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: what could you do?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but correct lywryn, most people today are NATted behind a broadband router, which is the biggest limiting factor
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what normal person is communicating at all with random people on skype?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: if i gave you my ip right now abe, what could you do with it?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I'm sure some small percentage, whether perhaps a minority, use skype to chat with strangers
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I've had to add a few people I don't neccesarily know that well for work reasons
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not a security flaw in skype...
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Quite right. I'm just wondering why it's not considered a security flaw.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I was quite suprised to realise I could work out the IP addresses of various people on my skype list.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I was then able to run a search and discover the rough locations they are from
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: see but thats not really that big a deal.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: now if you could do something like see their files and stuff. thats what id be scared of
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: More id-10t blather?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gregor, you can also often get people's IP from their email
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: interesting.....
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Gregor, nobody cares about the pr0n on your computer
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: really? even if i send it through gmail?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and geoip isn't that accurate
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Yeah, I noticed my own location was off by a good 15 miles
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yeah.  I think if you hit up my IP address I show up in Denver, which isn't even the right state. 
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the search for where someone is isn't where they are, it's where their network connection comes from
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: yup.....but somewhere in the vicinity of where they live.....relatively speaking
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is callerID a security flaw?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: absolutely not.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I didn't hear the rest of that conversation, but definitely yes
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I guess not
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I can set my caller ID to 911
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that gives you much more than an IP
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: heh, 
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krimp Tech: my front door is a security flaw
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: it just goes to show that maybe you are not as anonymous as you think you are on the net
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: omgz
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i can be traced?!
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I'll put it this way, the protocol that it uses has a flaw, it's a cool feature regardless, but if I can set my caller ID to the number of a government office and call somebody to ask for their checking account number for their tax refund
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: then it's a security flaw
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i would give it to you.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: its 4.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tobe, the question was more regarding when callerID is giving legitimate info...callerID is never a good thing to use for authentication, but the discussion was privacy, the other direction
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use the ability to send alternate callerID info so that when my PBX forwards my desk to my cell, I see the caller's number instead of just the office number...quite handy :-)
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: your a freaking animal abe lol
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, gregor, the statement "you are not as anonymous as you think you are on the net" is absolute truth at its core
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: every website you visit has your IP as well (barring you taking some extra steps...in which case those extra steps have your IP ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: And your pictures often have your map coords on them
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only phone pictures...almost no cameras do that (and no cameras do that without expressly buying a gps module)
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: whats the best way to connect the two jenny parts in the mapper?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: a REALLY LONG cexit?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: rely on mapper?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: nah, just wondering if there's a way
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper will make the connections itself
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: really? its not for me.. thats odd
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but don't consider the two jenny sections to be connected
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: let me retest it to see
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: well, if you where a monster and its in the jenny part over in yurgach
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: will it show up if your in the regular jenny part?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper goto the room over there
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: kk
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper doesn't care about areas, it cares about rooms
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (it knows about areas, etc...but it doesn't really need to)
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: aah i see, the reason was i didint have a cexit at the bronze doors
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, shouldn't need a cexit at the bronze doors, there's no custom exit there that I recall...it's just a 1-way exit, but the mapper only uses 1-way exits
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yeah i noticed it lol
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i fixed it tho
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i just started over and it fixed itself
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i mustve done something fishy
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it should be in the db file, search for nil values in whatever table is giving an error and change it to the default value
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: oops
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrool Tech: i am using mudmaster v4.0, anyone know if it has this MCCP as an option i can set?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in general, mccp isn't something you need to turn on, it's negotiated, so it'll always "just work" if the client supports it
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrool Tech: ok
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc puts in a plug for the aardwolf mushclient package downloadable from aard's website
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vrool Tech: would rather not have a special client just for this mud
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have a 1st gen Ipod Nano?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I do, got them replaced thanks to Apple
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: they are doing free replacement
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: now I have 6 new iPod nanos.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: they're replacing the 1st gen with what?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: the new ipod nanos
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: with 6th gen
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: newest ones?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so i'm assuming the price on that went waay up online eh?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: replacing with 8gb nanos
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: hi anyone use TinTin++?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What's your question - always better to just ask :)
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Where is Abelinc.....
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: hi there, tech hi there, im brand new to Aardwolftech man im using tintin newbie and it newbie sennewbie hi when im typing in tintin it deos not let
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Lolwut?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vegan Tech: Cocaine is a hell of a drug?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: my point exactly.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: LOL egan
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it'll kill you
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vegan points excitedly at Whitney Houston!
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vegan Tech: too soon?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yeup
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Flanny, send me whatever you have please.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: If you are just using stock tintin, might I suggest you use #split to see what you are typing.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Hahaha
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: sorry im man this is anyoing when in tin tin and the line refreshes then it moves my message up and i can not see what im typing!
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: tintin for the win.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vegan Tech: tinwin?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I win!!! I answered the question!
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: LOL
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: yeah im in tintin
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: CONGRADULATIONS MENDALOTH
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: #split was the correct answer
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vegan claps half-heartedly for Mendaloth, clearly unimpressed.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I really think that is more a concern than a win - that I actually knew it.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: i need help big time with tintin - i really want to use it aswell
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: FOR ANSWER THE QUESTION CORRECT YOU GET 1 Gold COIN!
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: collectable whenver! just ask me!
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: hi how do you get a map up using tintin?????
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: as in in a seperate window?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: why dont you use MUSHclient?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: comes with this all preset.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: cause well i just like the oldschool feel
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What operating system are you using?  Mushclient is really a better client with many more users and support.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: well back in oldschool days people would figure these things out instead of asking.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: Win XP
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: lol true
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Honestly I've used tintin and Mushclient - use Mushclient :)
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: sorry
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: just go with telnet
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: if you want oldschool, go telnet. If you want fun, go mushclient.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Finger ixle though if you want to get a some windows and such.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: telnet anygud?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yeah its amazing
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: closest to oldschool your ganna get.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: can it bring up a seperate map?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: nope, thats why its oldschool
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: you have to use a sliderule to calculate your Hp
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Seriously - just give this a try http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/downloads/list
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: lol i have seen pics of tintin having a map window but i have no idea how to bring it up
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Flanny - finger ixle for a setup like that.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: thankyou for the name but how do i contact him direct sorry im really really new to all this
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: youd send him a note. or tell
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: or randomly find him on the streets near your home.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Or you go to the website listed when you type "finger ixle"
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: you know what mendaloth, thats a lot better.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: you'd probably get better information that way.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: While your doing that - I really think you should try mushclient :)
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: ok have used mushclient
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: The one I linked to is built from teh ground up to work with Aardwolf.  I haven't tried it yet, but Ixle's setup on Wintin - I can't imagine it's for hte faint of heart.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: speaking from experience it can be annoting to get asked stuff that is easily found in your documentation
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so check out his site first
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ugh   lag!
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I use mostly Bast's plugins with the Aardwolf beta.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: yeah sorry i will have a look thak you!
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: hi sorry guys im now using Mushclient - what was the persons name who uses tintin?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: ixle doea
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Doc Holliday smirks.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: does*
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Cheezburger does - Id talk with him
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: he is very helpful and fun to talk to
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: hi anyone help me setup tinmtin to play like the mush client?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: So few people use it, even less know it well enough to help you.  Unless you are tech savvy enough to teach yourself the basics and ask for targeted help, I'd still suggest using Mushclient :)
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: there are only 11 people out of 421 that use tintin
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: but there are 200 people out of 421 who use the aardwolf mushclient
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: im really sorry but i want to be No. 12
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: tintin is kind of fun -- I used to use a tintin derivative
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: On MUSH, in order to trigger a hyperlink to pop up, does it needed to be scripted or is it possible to do it through the in MUSH provided Trigger page?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Don't be sorry, just realize that you're going to be doing the majority of the work yourself.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: what was the tintin derivative?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: but ultimately, I got tired of the language
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: wintin
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: nice, but with some white space problems, so reading my code was awful
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Doink: there is a hyperlink_url plugin on the mushclient forums
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: yeah thats what i have but i want to see it up with other windows etc and really need help
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Thanks Bast, ill check it out.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So...you want to use the unsupported client...but want support?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ah, well, wintin is not quite the same as tintin. Multiwindows I never used on it
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: If you need help that badly, then you probably should reconsider.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I've got MUSHclient now, though -- the lua backend is much cleaner and more fun to code against
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: And the universe of people able and happy to help is much larger!
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: yes you so right... but im really stbborn when i get something in my mind - i have seen pictures of tintin setup really nice
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Last question, anyone know of any good resources to learn how to script. A LUA for dummies page or something?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Then ask the people that took the picture?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: true true but can not get in contact
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The mush forums have some video tutorial links Nick made
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Guess thats a good starting point for me :p
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: for using tintin?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Okay, Flanny...I guess it comes down to this:  what kind of response are you hoping for?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: No, Flanny, Nick Gammon, the creator of MUSHclient is not going to have a set of videos on how to use tintin.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: point taken.... thanx for you time anyway
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: I think there's about 2 months before the new Tintin video is released.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thunderous Norton runs away in utter terror!
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Heh
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: regarding wintin vs tintin, unfortunately, there are 2 separate things often called wintin...one is unmodified tintin++, the other is a hybrid offshoot
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to use multiple windows, you'll still just have one window...you'll log stuff to files, and then tail those files
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yeah, I used to use the GUI one, then I tried ytin for a bit
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those other windows are separate from tintin itself
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, the most-pimped tintin setups you'll see won't be on windows, since they'll likely be using things like tmux or gnu screen to organize the windows
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: nowadays, I use tt just to run out my quest timer -- tt takes no compute at all in that set up, which is the big thing over Mush
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Any thoughts on the 'best' consumer Linux distro for a laptop? For someone who is fairly tech savvy but doesn't want to mess too much with the OS? Just stick with Ubuntu?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I use openSUSE, does everything I need it to
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Ubuntu's the easiest to find help for, and usually just works on the most different laptop hardware I'd say.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I'd say ubuntu or linux mint
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, I'm against mint just cuz it's absolutely wrong for them to use that name :P
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I use mint's debian distro.  It generally pulls from debian testing, so it doesn't have the same release cycle as ubuntu.  If you need newer versions of packages, it's a better way to go.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Well, there's that..:-P
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mint has existed as unrelated to linux for decades
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: hi anyone just use tintin and nothing else?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: yeah like 12 other people
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: is there a way to ping aardwolf and get your latency?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Sure.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: in game?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: ping aardmud.org
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: ping aardmud.org
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: oops =P
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Or, actually, aardmud.com
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: .org is the website/test server, I believe.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: aardmud.org is the mud.  That what your client is connecting to
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I'm connecting to aardmud.com:4010
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: heh okay, there's no way to do it in game right?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I don't know what YOU are connecting to, though :P
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods at Jhav.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Right, Kuro.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: okay, thanks =D
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: aardmud.com and aardmud.org convert to the same ip
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: So they do.  66.228.127.34.  Hm.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, I thought he had said aardwolf.com
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Using MUSH, making a trigger with random at the start, but it has a * in it. How do you write it to include the * and not pick it up as random?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evilness Tech: L2Bot elsewhere!
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: are you saying you want it to treat the * as an asterisk.. not as a wildcard?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Yes, coorect.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: escape it
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: use \*   (in theory) i didn't have much luck with it when i tried it.. i use regex when i want that elvel of control
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Cool thanks, ill give it a try.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: possibly if that fails try %*
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novanavi Tech: what do I go under if I just downloaded the Aardwolf version of Mush and I want all the text to be in bold?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vegan Tech: general options (ctrl + G) -> output -> select bold check box
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: alt-5
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vegan nods at Riddim.
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novanavi Tech: thank you, much better
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novanavi Tech: Ah I need to put it into fixding text, now it looks normal to me
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novanavi Tech: still thanks for the help none the less
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novanavi Tech: another question
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novanavi Tech: if say I wanted to aliases k <target> to do cast curse <target> What symbol would I use to represent target?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: *
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novanavi Tech: thank you
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: for most client side aliases
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: if you're doing this mud side just alias k c 'curse'
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novanavi Tech: I must be doing it wrong. It looks on my alliances like k *  and then under I have cast curse *
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: have it be cast curse %1
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Novanavi Tech: thank you, there it goes
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: i would like to use f1 for a macro, but it appears that the default setting for f1 is bring up the help menu, and that overides the macro bindings - is there a way to disable f1 for help?
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vegan Tech: yes, one sec
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: File->global preferences
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: check (or uncheck) the thing that talks about using f1/f3 as a macro
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (general tab)
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: that worked perfectly, thanks :)
T3/r6/2012-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: other than those keys they allow for macros by default, can i make other macro keys? like make 'x' as a macro to quaff
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can, but they're called acclerators.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You have to make them with the accelerator function.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Don't think there's a GUI for it
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: ahh, so write them into a script and install as a plugin?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Can do it from the command line if you have a scripting prefix enabled
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: how can i enable that?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: game-configure-scripting, top right box
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: i have script as /// and scripting enabled, how can i make something simple like north arrow for walk north?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: ///Accelerator("Up", "walk north")
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (assuming your scripting language is set to lua)
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you do help->function list, and select accelerator, it'll give some examples, as well as the name you need to use for each key.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can also do input->key name, and press a key, and it'll tell you the name of it
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: So I come home today and my tintin session to Aard is frozen. I restart tintin and it says it's connected to Aard but it never receives any info from the mud and appears to just be frozen again. Start debugging and realize I can't connect to Aard with tintin or telnet (tried ip and ports 4000, 4010, and 23). I can ping it however. I can also connect to other muds. I can also connect from other computers on the network. Any ideas?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you using an ip or a domain name (e.g. aardmud.org) to connect to?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I tried both.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: the ip in 'help ip'?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I haven't done anything out of the ordinary on the linux box, no host fiddling, etc. I also tried restarting.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: got what you said so far, thanks alot lei :)
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yeah I'll double check and try it again though. One sec.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei tells Siko he's very welcome.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I tried with vanilla tintin btw, no settings loaded.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: #SESSION 'aard' CONNECTED TO '66.228.127.34' PORT '23'  (stops there, no further data)
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yeah, tried ip and all 3 ports, same thing.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: What else can I try to narrow down the cause?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: No linux folk on?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maglight Tech: What do you mean?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: how do i delete an Accelerator?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whimsical Willmek Tech: A possible answer here:  http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?function=Accelerator
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: nod thanks, i was trying to delete an accelerator binded to '/', and i realised i cant actually type the '/' :P
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: but i just typed it down on a notepad and pasted onto the command line
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is it possible to change how a html tag acts with css? ex, <h1>test</h1>, on my css style sheet do h1 {font-size:10px};?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: Yes, it's perfectly possible although I recommend using "em" to specifiy font size
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: anyone familiar with basts spellup plugin for mush?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it's easier just to ask the question
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: but more provocative this way, reaches out and grabs ya by the nu nus
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: indeed. Although as you don't get an answer from doing that, I am not sure this is a good thing
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: was making sure someone in the correct area of expertise was online really but anyway I digress just wondering how to make the thing work, I know how to make it request spells and cast them but is there a way to just cast them all?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: bsp sadd all
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: also bsp help
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: nod read the help file must have missed the sadd all part thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Also should probably do that at r7l200, because all only includes spells you currently have access to
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Or just use sadd all, then add ones from classes you don't have yet
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: woop on the ball answered my next question before I could type it, 2 points
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ulrich, the issue with asking if there's someone to ask, is that you're not asking if someone knows the answer to your question, you're asking for a personal volunteer to dedicate time to you...whether or not someone uses or "knows" any given software product, hardware product, plugin, etc doesn't mean they'll know the answer to an as-yet-unasked question
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: People don't want to volunteer themselves - if they know the answer it is far less investment to just toss it out there
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: valid point abelinc but someone completely unfamiliar with the content of aforementioned question would therefore know not to pay any mind to the coming question,
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone who cares to answer has this channel on
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: amounts to the same thing...they're ignoring one post either way
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err reading one post either way...they'll know that they can ignore it at exactly the same poitn
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: point*
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: ok you win
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I'm goign to say this a few times becasue i've had it asked a few times and i finally have an answer.  If you need to reposition the S&D GUI window, but cant get to it.. send me a tell for an easy solution (until the next update)
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Why does cp check not show any of my cp mobs in either this window or in the little mini window? How do I fix it? :P I requested the cp when at another computer earlier today, with another version of mush. Now that I"m at home, I don't see the mobs at all anymore...
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Hmm, your using a plugin to see your campaign mobs?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: or you dont see it in the main window?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: bot! bot! get 'em!
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Well... if I thought it was mudside, I wouldn't be asking on tech. ;)
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Hmm, did you try reseting the plugin? thats the only advice i got really :S
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I guess I can just use cp info and try to remember which ones I've killed. :P
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Vadar: ahhh. You just like to see yourself chat? :) yes. I did actually reinstall both the mini-window and the broadcast plugins.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Everyone loves to see Vadar chat, that's why we play!
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Thanks Greg! :D
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Aah, the dreaded black plugin - needs a mush restart it does. Mmhmm.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: sounds like it doesn't know you're on a cp cause the trigger didn't fire on the request message...you could disable it for now so it won't gag from the main output, anyway
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: AT&T Customer Service SUCKS!
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In their defence, so do customers.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Haha, well so true.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: tech They promised me 80 bucks off of my bill because I was out of service for a while. Then when i got my bill it was gone! :S
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Noone knows that the supervisor promised it to me!
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: losing 80 bucks *cry* lol
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: They should have a record of your calls, and who you spoke to.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: If you really care, then yell at them until they give it back.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yeah? My moms talking to them right now.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: More importantly next time you shoudl have a record of your calls and who you spoke to.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: oh i do
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: names n everything
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: wrote everything down
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Ok, restarting mush also didn't help. :P
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It might take a couple of goes :-(
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Uninstall/Reinstall plugin.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darth Vadar S
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Jaenelle: whose plugin are you using?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Bast: I think yours. :)
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle is releived.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darth Vadar steps off the stage. Bast has arrived!
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I have now learned... don't request a cp at school and expect to see the mob names when getting home. :P
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: There should be a special board for helping people fix their bots.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just typing "cp c" should show it in the output window, my triggers only get cp check I think
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah, cp c doesn't trigger
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Is there a way to refresh it and force it to reload into the output window?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: your plugin has a variable that will enable/disable the capturing trigger i think
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: so you make people type an extra 4 characters to use your plugin? what's the point of that?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It is a code-sent string...
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: adsl2 blows
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i've asked for my adsl1 back
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: what do i need to uncheck in MUSH to get macros not show up in my command history?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Booting an ISO image from a USB stick is just as simple as click/drag to usb drive and boot from usb?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: depends on your mobo bios
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Like the ISO image to reformat a computer.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Hmm so if i'm lucky, its that easy.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: If not, then i have to formate the stick as a harddrive?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: format*
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most computers won't boot an iso
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: but i've burnt the image to a cd, can't i do the same on a usb?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd need some sort of loader that turns the iso into a virtual drive for the computer to load
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: burning to a CD is NOT copying to a CD
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you drag that ISO to a data CD and burn that, it won't work
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Gotcha. So whats the best way to do it if i need to boot from USB then?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doing a "burn ISO" translates the ISO for the burn
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: I have to agree with Abelinc here.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: is there a way i can "burn ISO" to Flash drive?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You don't burn anything to a flash drive.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not usually in that direct manner, no...
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: well, i have an ISO image i need to boot from. and i don't have any blank cd's big enough to hold it.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are a number of ways to make bootable flash drives, all with varying success (other than installing to it like any other hard drive)
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: You can copy to a flash, and then make bootable by bios, not sure if I am correct or not.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's likely a DVD iso then
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: its a windows 7 iso
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: windows 7 comes on DVDs
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: hmm, so i'm screwed? i have to go buy?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: You can install Windows 7 from a flash drive.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: SO CONFUSING! lol
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: I've actually had more luck with it than via DVD
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: what Elan said.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: Microsoft offers a utility for making bootable flash drives and there's one called Penguin... something, as well, that I've used in the past
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so how do i install from flash drive?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as I said, there are a number of ways to make flash drives bootable...they all have varying success depending on a number of factors...there are many tutorials on making windows installers on flash drives
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so just make the flash drive bootable. and go from there?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most will require you to make that iso no longer an iso
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: hmm i gues si need to google more.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "install windows 7 from usb" is a pretty good search term to use...
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: I actually use Ubuntu from 8 gig flash.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Oi windows 8 is out?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: out? no...available? yes
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: only the beta's Vadar.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: is it free?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i should try it since i'm messing around with reformating anyways
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should not use it
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: nvm then..
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: stick with something stable.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you can't google how to make a flash drive bootable, then betas aren't for you :P
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol :D
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: So true.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: Hey tech channel
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: holllla!
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: So I just got an SSD.  I don't really have brackets for it to mount properly in my pc case
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: Big deal, or not so much?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mine is wedged in with cardboard
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: not so much
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you can get a cream for ssd
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: no moving parts.. no real heat.. no big deal IMHO
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: So it's okay if I sort of just let it chill on the bottom of the case?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: I made two triangle supports from A4 piece of paper, works flawlessly
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you need a laptop hdd adaptor bracket, they're like $5
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: I'll get one some day, but right now, I just want to put this thing in :p
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mine's just floating around.. 
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: $5 for a bracket - they got you by the proverbial balls
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: Great, thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: $5 isn't exactly bank breaking
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I'm goign to say this a few times becasue i've had it asked a few times and i finally have an answer.  If you need to reposition the S&D GUI window, but cant get to it.. send me a tell for an easy solution (until the next update)
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle  ends his canned message
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: canned laughter follows 
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle holds up the Applause sign.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: do american tv audiences still need telling when to clap and when to laugh?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: audience is busted for botting 
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: when something is filmed "before a live studio audience" they generaly sont leave things to chance.. but most shows aren't filmed that way anymore
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: "filmed before a virtually live and appropriately prompted audience"
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: any web devs on?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone direct me to a way to setup a share folder in debian from CL
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: build doesnt have apt-get on it :( not sure if i can add that from CL
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: finally got it :)
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: is it possible to use GMCP data in a mush alias, without embedding the alias inside a plugin?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: or mush trigger, for that matter, though I'm currently looking at an alias.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: yeah.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: you can use CallPlugin
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you must be going through a plugin...whether it's that alias's defined plugin or not...
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: local gmcpPlugin = "3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264"
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: res, zone = CallPlugin(gmcpPlugin,"gmcpval","room.info.zone")
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: so, you go through the gmcp plugin, yeah
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: i should convert my aliases to a plugin
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: ah, but with those two calls, I can ignore building up a full, brand new plugin?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: yeah
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: nice.  thanks.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: sup
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: oh crap
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: i ripped the first line from one of fiendish's plugins.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: basically, put the first line in, then you can use CallPlugin to use any of it's functions
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: If your burning something important to a DVD you want a slow burn speed right?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: So you don't get any file loss?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Well, a better question would be. Why would i want a slow burn speed.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: no clue.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: depends on the blank dvds and their future usage
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: it is faster to burn fast and check if it works
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but slower is usually better. especially for booting and installing
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Ok good, because i spent 6 dollars on a pack of 5 dvd's and i'm too cheap to mess one up lol
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it will work on the same device in 99% of the cases
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I'm currently burning at X6 lol
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: its burning pretty quick tho. 10 minutes its taking.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: generally, 8-12x is ok
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Well, now just wondering, whats the fastest burn speeds atm?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: if you dont burn bridges, deleting the source.. fast burn. if you burn bridges then take some medicine.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: like i said earlier - it depends on the device that has to read it later
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Ooh i see, so the slower the burn speed. the better quality the picture.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Which means it will last longer
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: all i know is that -20 c kills a DVD
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: If my computer when booted up says, "Bios is not installed" then keeps booting up. this means?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: well, it means that my computer is in a RAID and i don't have one set up.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: now to figure out how to delete this raid setup :O
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: qr
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: anyone take TPs for fixing comps? :D
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: whats wrong with your comp?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: It was freezing, i just rather purge the whole thing and reinstall windows 7.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i can't get it to boot from cd because its in a raid array atm
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: dunno why its in one.. seeing how i only have 1 HDD
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: windows.. well theres your problem...
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Is it difficult to copy my system from HDD to SSD?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Thinking of changing out my HDD for an SSD in this laptop
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: space issues?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: better to do a backup and restore with the built in windows 7 bare metal restore 
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: SO its giving me the error No bios installed. So i went to enter the raid array setup, then it wouldn't highlight the first option. so i went to restart the computer, and then it wouldn't boot up with display
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: Oh, come on. I work for Apple and even I'm not enough of a troll to say Windows is his problem.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: specs and what did you do before it freezes.  if you can get a hijackthis log, its even better
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: your arry could have gone bad
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I honestly want to get rid of my raid array
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i only have one Hard drive disk, i didint put it in a raid array to begin with. but i have family member around who do who knows what to the computer.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: if you touch anything with the array you'll have to reinstall everything with no chance of recovery
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I dont care for recovery
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i just want to reinstall it all.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Shame Gregor isn't online, he could posit some conspiracy theories involving zero-day vulnerabilities and undetectable trojan hax.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: start fresh is easier.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: my problem now is that it wont start at all.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it says can not detect any bios?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: it went from saying no bios, to no display output at all, to no power at all now.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: just go into your raid software and delete the array then double check the bios and make sure that you have 2 HDD detected.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Abel, i only have 1 HDD
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: wow, ok
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and it wont start now lol
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: it won't post and no lights?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: no fans no light.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darth Vadar S
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: it sucks :S
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: post = beep the mobo makes when booting
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: hrm. Fist stop is the power supply, what type of machine is it?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Its a custom built machine from a couple of years back..
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: but i didint build it lol
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: so it's a tower?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: a friend of mine did.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yup.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: ok, And it's a couple of years old?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yeah, its pretty old already
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: try unplugging it and letting it sit for about 10 minutes to attempt to discharge anything. But it seems like you're going to have to start swapping parts out
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: tarling there are softwares that will let your copy your hdd.  first you must resize your windoze partition to fit your SSD drive
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in all their infinite wisdom, the ancient tech elders decided to make mobos beep different messages during the POST.  While you might not notice any difference, it will beep one way for all-is-normal and another way indicating what exactly is the problem.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: starting with the power supply
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae peers around himself intently.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Yeah, i'm just letting it sit for now i assumed as much.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Sucks that i have no extra parts sitting around.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: that's the easiest and ultimately cheapest way if you have any technical ability.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: well, i have SOME technical ability.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i've swapped out RAM and a powersupply once.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: added a graphics card also, but thats easy plug-in stuff.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i'm just no pro.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: you'll do fine. Just make sure that if you get a new power supply that you get at least a 700w and make sure you have the correct # of pins. It's been a while since I've had to build a computer but it used to be 2 different mobos 20 and 24 pin i think
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: why 700w from a computer 2 years ago?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Lets hope i dont need one lol
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Well, it was "the best" back in its day.. so it still holds up today decently
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: its probably = to the 400-500 dollar computers now.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: I've had too many 500w burn out quickly. 
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: maybe a lil less.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: especially with older hardware
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: choosing power supply is really dependent on his usage. 700w really eats a lot of power
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i'll probably be playing LoL
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: power supply is 100% dependant on your hardware
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: its officially been 10 minutes since i last turned it on. LETS GIVE IT A SHOT!
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: not the softwares.  but the number of components you attached to your PC.  how many hardisks and suchs
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: 700w -- that is the output of a small room heater in a cold winter - 700w to run a computer is ludicrous 
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: zade, do you actually understand how power supplies work?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: main power consumption will come from your gpu
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: I've had older gaming rigs that I swapped out 500w 2 or 3 times. Went with a 700 and it ran like a champ to this day
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: I know my computer only has a 310w power supply! greenie
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are you playing Aard from a calculator?!
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: IT TURNED ONE
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: ha!
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ON
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: nah, 27 inch imac :p
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: And showed me display
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mythologique Tech: So, my client is showing no output when I input commands, it is however working quite well. I can move, I can see chat above the main client window in the little chat window. I just am not receiving any feed back in the client window. I am using winklewinkle's spellup and s&d as addon plugins and they may be causing the problem. Anyone have any ideas?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so i went directly to the raid array setting and its giving me a notice saying "Notice: you do not have enough hard drives fora  raid array!"
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: yup, you can't have an array with 1
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: anyone feel like helping with a vista connectivity issue?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: So theres a button that says delete array or whatever, but i can't reach it with my arrow keys!!! :(((
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: wireless? there used to be a command to disable the global something. I've been out of the game too long
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: vista's an OS, not a modem.  Could be part of your connectivity problem.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: seriously, though, what's the issue?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: because there isn't an array
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: 1 hard disk and a video card. yeah a true rated 500w power supply is more than enough
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: So the message saying Bios is not installed isn't because i have a raid array?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: you can't have a 1 disk array and the bios is on the mobo not the hdd
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: vadar, its because it can't find a bootable partition in your raid arrtay
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: lets take an average power supply for a machine with a decent gpu and several hard drives.  lets say that at full load you pull 500 watts,  now put in a 500 watt power supply.  that power supply will only be running at best, 80% efficiency.  Which means its gonna get hot and you are gonna pull more amps than what you are actually getting delivered.  Most likely you're only getting 70% or 60%.  Now replace that with a 700watt powersupply with the same 500 watts usage.  you're likely, with a decent supply, to get upwards of 95% efficiency. which means you don't have nearly the heat/power loss and it costs you less.  Not to mention its more stable
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: rofl
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Holy crap.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: wyza! SHH!
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: So how do i get this darned thing to boot into my cd then??
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: wyza average vs. true rated. hmmmm
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i've tried tapping all types of buttons to get it to boot into my cd and it just wont do it.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: it doesnt give me the option that is.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: but in my boot order, CD is first.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: you need to see if you can get into the bios it should either be delete key or a function key
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: average power supplies don't even give enough power as they are supposed to.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: What button to get into bios ? if its giving me the message "bios is not installed"?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: on boot up your machine is posting with the message no bios installed?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: if you get bios is not installed, then A: you're reading the wrong message in the wrong place or B: something hosed your bios and you are fubared probably
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yeah it gives me the message, but if i leave it it will loginto windows 7 perfectly.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: then your bios is installed fine
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: Yeah, you'd have to re-flash the bios to the mobo in order to boot. It's a base level necessity. 
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: your pc will never boot without a bios
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: wtf have you done to that machine?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: that message is a raid controller error
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I haven't touched it for a couple months, i come back its a living hell :(
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: hmm, i wonder if the bios on the raid controller is bad
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: they do have their own
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thats probably what it is. But since i'm not using raid, it doesnt matter right?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: wyza exactly
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: could be, or the controller is going bad 
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I can just leave it busted.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: eh, except usually the raid controller is the same as the hdd controller and you could be looking for trouble later
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you probably have a raid configured.  but not your current disk.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: at least on midline mobos
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and your BIOS is configured to boot from raid first.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: My Raid array thing is VT8237 Ver 4.5
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: how the hell could you get an array configured with only one 1 HDD?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I dont know how it happened abel, thats why i just want to start from scratch
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: perhaps it used to have 2? in  mirror?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: maybe when my friend gave it to me, he took out one. yeah.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: he used to overclock the graphics card. i stopped that also.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: either he does have an array and is confusing the virtual disk for one hdd or it wasn't reconfigured before it was given to him
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: he doesn't have RAID.   but was configured to boot from raid
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: well it originally had windows xp and i installed windows 7 fine.. so..
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: where are you getting your information that you only have 1 hdd?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: from the raid aray bios and from taking a look lol
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: that's a tough one. Someone will need to be infront of it to work on it
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: haha anyone want to skype and take a look? :D i'll give you all my tps! :P
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: granted its not that many.. but hey
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i have 0 tps... so i give none. (laughs)
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: So no way to force my computer to boot from my cd then? not without looking in bios?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: there has to be some kind of manual or something out there.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: you have to have a bios
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: check if you have a BBS popup.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: there should be a bios reset to default somewhere on the motherboard.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i have a bios.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: abel if it boots to windows 7. it has a bios
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: I know
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: if i leave it, it boots to windows 7 the problem is that windows 7 installation freezes up.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: he's saying he can't get into the bios to change the boot order
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i can cahnge the boot order also
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: its set to boot from cd
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: first
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: ok..... then don't worry about the bios
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: <-- is confused. What next then?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: boot from CD?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: does the disk drive even try to spin up when booting? do you see it in windows when you boot up?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: disk drive as in where i put the cd right?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: yup
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: let me check it.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Personally, I would d/c the hard drive, boot with just the mobo, and have a dig through the bios settings, see if something is playing up
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: that might be a bit over his head vakieh
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Ok i tapped F8 when i booted up the tower. Brings me to advanced boot options for the windows 7 i already have installed.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i tried F12, that doesnt work either. So i just booted into safe mode to check if the disc drive was working.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I seem to hear it spinning, but it wont boot the cd in safe mode.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Delete is the next one to tap?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Btw, i can disconnect the HDD if you want me to.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Del. yes.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: let me try delete, if not i'll disconnect the HDD and see what i can find.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: By the way, let me just say early thanks to all you guys for helping me out :D
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Or just google your BIOD version for tips?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why tap randomly? Disconnect the HDD so it doesn't head there first, bring up the bios with the key it tells you to in the beginning, and revert the whole lot to factory defaults
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: BIOS, that is.'
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: So i got into the bios, just hit restore to default?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Make a note of all settings first, and if you can, make a 3.5" backup
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Hmm, 3.5 inch?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol :D
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: afaik the only media BIOS can handle raw
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: just take pictures of all the pages?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Though not a whole lot of computers using those anymore
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah, that works - make it so you can revert if you need to, no sense screwing something worse than it is
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: kk
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: BRB
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: oh after i do that, what am i ganna do?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: boot from cd pressing what key?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Try booting with default settings (plug the hdd back in first of course)
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If not that, then just change boot settings until something works :-P
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: hmm, could i remove HDD and plug it in after i boot from cd?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: or could i shock the thing to death?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Don't do SHIT inside the machine when it's powered!
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: cause i know your not sopposed to mess around in there while its running.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: No cursing please
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Good way to end up on the plaque
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I appreciate the enthusiasm Vakieh :D
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: -- canned message
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I'm goign to say this a few times becasue i've had it asked a few times and i finally have an answer.  If you need to reposition the S&D GUI window, but cant get to it.. send me a tell for an easy solution (until the next update)
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: woot i'm playing on the computer i was asking questions about
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: anyone else using cmud get partial echoes of commands sent from inside gmcp triggers?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: windows 7 - can i disable the tool tip with the window name that pops up when i mouse over an icon on my task bar?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: they always cover my command line, it's really annoying :P
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: dunno if you can, but it might be part of the Aero bundle.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: but disabling aero makes a lot of neat things go away as well.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, was afraid it'd be that
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you're constantly mismousing all over the taskbar, you could try autohiding it.
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, i think i'll try that
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: is there a single gcmp value that gives the tier-adjusted level (for things like eq, etc.), or do you always have to take the two values and do the math?
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: this is worse, the tool tips still show even after the task bar hides, plus now i have the task bar to pop up and cover my command line too :P
T3/r6/2012-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you have to do the math
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: anyone know of a script to use a portal if you have one rather than runto?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: ah forgot to turn it on
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tater Tot Vinatia Tech: this may sound stupid but is there a way other than using search on my comp and a flash drive, to get aard from my old comp to my new comp?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the client? 
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: you could network the directory across
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: just share a location
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Dropbox? A burnt CD? A networked folder?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: FTP, torrents, balhblahblah?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: heck, that data is small enough to even web mail it to yourself
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tater Tot Vinatia Tech: ok cool thanks, wasnt sure how it would work with all my mapper info
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: copy the folder, it's portable!
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Just make sure you put it into a folder with read/write access so it can save new rooms or aliases or wahtever.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tater Tot Vinatia Tech: ok my last stupid question, does mapper rooms save in the mushclient folder(all my aard info is also included)?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: someone able to explain if/how it'd be doable to export id-info to website (well, or text file is nice enough also)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: well, i'm actually looking after info how to put a) item ID number b) stats into file
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: website is just a textfile ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's eqdb already puts the stats into a database
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nowadays, it's easier to parse invdetails than it is to parse ident output
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: hmmh
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that requires you (the script) to know the itemID, but that's available easily to scripts using invmon or invdata
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: well, as i have smthn like 150+ items i guess i'll still save some time searching some info
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how many items doesn't matter to scripts ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: i know. but if i had just a dozen or few i'd just do it manually
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you had a dozen today, you'd have another dozen next week...
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: not likely i'll bother to skin again at level 1 he he
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you haven't stopped hawking items as long as I've been playing, so I don't see it stopping soon ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: yeah well just trying to see if its worth time to make a small website for level 1 skins
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: time to use board forsale! :P
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use bast's eqdb plugin, then use a sqlite browser to export to .csv
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: does it work on zmud?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: ok screw that then :P
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for that, use ozzy's eq database
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: lets see.. thnx tho
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: do anyone have a plugin which colors the cp-gq-quest mobs when you scan? on mushclient
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.conradshome.com/aardwolf/ click zmud stuff
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Bast does.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: finger bast.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: what is the name of it?i had it some times ago but i lost it..and i dont know the name :)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: his site explains all of his plugins
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: man, I had no idea how much was involved in things like simple triggers/aliases
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: any web devs on?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Dangladesh Tech: I might be able to help.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: i need a little css help
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Dangladesh Tech: What's up?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: i have a horizontal dropdown nav i made with css.. it goes 2 levels down, but the 2nd level is styled differently, but im not sure how to stop that particular ul from inheriting the navs css
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: ill put the code online.. 1 min
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: overload it?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Dangladesh Tech: Okay cool. My first thought is if you want to not have an inheritance you can just style the second level and overwrite what it's inheriting.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: why cant i see bast miniwindow_moon?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it isn't visible?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: i manage to install it...mb works...but cant see the window
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's cloudy?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: i cant see it at all :)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: is the module loaded? is it behind something else? have you got tabbar and is it visible?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec wasn't being facetious when he asked if it was visible
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: is not under anything...it is loaded...
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: check here http://pastie.org/3387803
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: brb
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Dangladesh Tech: Kardon: is it the "navorange that isn't styling correctly?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: no.. rollover the  first nav item
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Dangladesh Tech: Or is it anytime you have a <ul> within a <li>?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: sorry 1 sec
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: i forgot to insert my problem.. drr  grab this http://pastie.org/3387913
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: in the first dropdown youll notice the flyout to the right.. the link style is inheriting when it should just be a regular link item
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Dangladesh Tech: Is this still 3balls? Or am I looking somewhere else?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: its different code.. i put in my problem
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: same nav
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Dangladesh Tech: I see..
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: if i set the background as transparent i cant click on it :(
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Dangladesh Tech: What I would do is give those second level links their own id and style them the way I want. I guess in your case make them no style.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: gotta run for a few.. this thing is annoying the hell outta me! ha
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bimond Tech: Anyone know how to set sound triggers?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Winklewinkle has a plugin
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bimond Tech: Is there any plugins that have most if not all the rooms mapped out alrready?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: --canned msg--
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I'm goign to say this a few times becasue i've had it asked a few times and i finally have an answer.  If you need to reposition the S&D GUI window, but cant get to it.. send me a tell for an easy solution (until the next update)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didn't you post the solution script?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: sounds like its just time for an update :)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i did .. almost noone reads tech ive found
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, then instruct to board tech ; note read 5781 instead of sending you a tell (unless you like the tells }:>)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm curious why they seemed to just start happening like a week ago
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bimond Tech: Where can I get your sound or addon pack winkle?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger him, bimons
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err bomond
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bimond Tech: derp
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's all there on his www site
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: been hapenning for a while  but user base is growing  had to address it
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: update IS coming
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I just reinstalled the regular client and bast plugins, I'm not seeing any text from the mud other than captured communications (i.e. i type spellup, the miniwin updates, but I don't see anything in the main activity window)...?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Is it the latest version Mushambo?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Latest version of bast's that is.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: trackmania is a great free game
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Hmmm Mushambo not sure - I've seen that issue before with either the equipment plugin or the area plugin.  I'd try removing those two and seeing if they fix it.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: But I thought it was fixed so might not be it.  If that doesn't work.  Try adding them a few a time to narrow down the issue.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: is there anything i should know/do/want when getting a new network adapter?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: 1) Gigabit 2) Autosensing
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: okay.. how big memory wise (didnt realize) should i get?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Autosensing isnt a must, but it is nice to have (has the ability to convert standard cable to crossover cable on the fly for fast transfers)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: it sounds like a very useful thing to have
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: those are the suggestions I have - cache/memory not sure - never paid attention to that before with network adapter
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: h- 20
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: are they hard to remove and install?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: are they hard to remove/install?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: is there any kind of likelihood i will break things irreparably?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: in a standard case, its one screw or clip to remove then pop it out - and slide the new one in
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: are they easy to find?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: if its a pci card - its really pull the old one out and pop the new one in, about 30 second project
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is your current one a card or on the systemboard?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: thanks :)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is it in one of the slots on your case - or is it by the audio/video/usb ports in that cluster?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: no slots
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: im assuming its inside my computer
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: its not?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yea on the back of the PC it could be with all the other ports / or it could be in the PCI slots
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: if its in the cluster you cant remove the original but you can still use the expansion one instead
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: this doesn't bode well if im not sure where it is :p
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: one second
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: is it most likely where the cable plugs in?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this is where you find it's a laptop
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae sniffs sadly at the way Tigernuts is treating him.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: http://www.bighairydog.com/support%20pics/back%20of%20PC.jpg
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You also probably want to get a Gigabit adapter and not a 10/100mbit one, IMO.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: euw, dell optiplex
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dirty dell optiplex
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: if its at the top by all of the other stuff - you cant remove it... if its in those slots at the bottom, just remove that card - and put the new one in
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: might not look just like that, but you kinda get the idea
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: are PCI slot-types yet used or are they obsolete with the new faster slots
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: http://amiworks.co.in/talk/wp-content/back-panel-pc.jpg
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: usually get one of each
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you'd b e wise to check what's spare
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: there you can see the two different network adapter placements
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: hm ok by the top do you mean the part with the grating that's with circular holes?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: by top i mean where all the usb ports are and all of the other ports
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: and that part wouldnt be able to be replaced?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: correct
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so you would just use the card and leave the old one
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: and im assuming that for the gigabit adapter bit that that would refer to the memory holliday was talking about?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: by card, do you mean adapter?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: (reallllly sorry, terribly technologically impaired)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106033
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: those are the cards
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ohh ok so its probably where the cable plugs in
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: there is hope! mine plugs into the side and not near the ton of usb ports. ok, but, if it ends up being near one will i just be able to ignore the existence of the usb deal and simply not put back a part where you'd be able to insert something?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: why are you wanted to get a new adapter
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: okay wellll
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thats exactly right
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: im having huge connectivity issues, like, massive. whenever i try to connect to anything, nothing works and i get a dns type you-just-have-no-internet error
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: however i find it highly unlikely that internet has been out more than 6 hours
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it has
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: could it be the router?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: router or cable modem (depending on your setup)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i wasn't aware i used one
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: well it could be but i can't manage to get the plug out of the wall
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thats where the other side of the network cable goes to
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i suspect i'd end up breaking it
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: god this is ridiuclous
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok so anyway
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: my question is if you have the cable plugged in... there should be 2 lights beside the port
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: green and a flashing one
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: whenever i attempt to fix things (as per what vista says)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: yes :) :) yes indeed
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: vista doesn't fix things
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: then your network adapter may be fine
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: it always says that i need to refresh/renew ip deal, so i do that (i let vista do that for now before fiddling with anything else, things seem to go downhill from there)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: but it doesn't help/do anything. so when i was checking out the help files it said i might need a new adapter
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: and since nothing else seems to be working - i got thesame suggestion as what i should do from vakieh - there has to be something else funky going on
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: so, i think it's time to try to a new adapter - my computer isnt terribly old but its not super new either, probably like 3 years
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: unless there are some other things i havent tried?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you tried manually inputting 8.8.8.8 as DNS server?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: no... the bit where it suggest i should make an ip etc makes me a bit nervous. i'll give it a whirl
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: DNS issues will almost never be the adapter...adapters going bad generally fall into 2 categories: (1) don't work at all, (2) seem to work but spew TONS of data onto the network making everything crawl
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: yeah, you seem to be having a software problem
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i think that the adapter just doesn't work at all...correct me if im wrong and i probably am but i thought the adapter was the deal that turned what comes from the plug into something useful?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: and without it there wouldn't be anything, and there kind of isn't
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd also do an "ipconfig /a" & look at the DNS server that's listed...lots of malware messes with your DNS settings so they can funnel you through romania
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i like romania
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: once i look at it, what should i look for?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: im not on my laptop right now so i cant really do that
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: also you cant just swap out an adapter on a laptop
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i thought we were talkign desktop
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: earlier today  it complained about a dhcp deal but it stopped doing that once the adapter was reset & a new ip deal was supposedly gotten
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: oh noes
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at the IP that the DNS entry says, then do a whois search on the IP online
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i wonder if the cablemodem only allows a single IP (in which if he is swappign devices it will do that until the CM is reset
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: cm? and if it can't be swapped out, what happens? i'll need a new computer?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: if you have a router, the DNS address that the laptop sees should be the router's internal address
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: its most likely not the network adapter
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: hm ok what else could it be then?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: and i dont have a router that i know of, just goes into the wall
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ok, so at a school?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: nope
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: yeah, where are you?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: well im having this issue at home, where i am currently not
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: heh - laptop with CAT5 to wall, not at a school
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: where in the world is carmen sandiago
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: taiwan
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: oh currently i am at an internet cafe
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: what should happen is your DHCP server (usually a router) should send your computer ip information when the cable is connected
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ...before you say why the hell didnt you bring your laptop and test a wireless connection here, it's not that kind - set up for wow people with nearly naked chicks on the wall and monitors
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: wait, you talking wifi or cabled?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok.. but it stopped complaining about dhcp problems earlier after i got a new ip and reset the adapter
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: cable
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: undoubtedly cable, there is nothing between computer and wall
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: goes directly to each other, promise :)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: bird?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: mis
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: did you happen to manually set the ip information for the adapter?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: no, i did not, but i did manually refresh it.. the place where i did so would have allowed me to enter my own address
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: is there another computer in your house that is having connection problems?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i don't know, i live in an apartment building and don't really speak the language...
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok the reason why i think it might be the adapter is that this has happened a few times within the past few months and every time when vista attempts to fix it it always has to do with resetting the adapter
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: and its never donet his before, but its happening more often than it used to
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: oh and it has to fix it because my connection drops
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: so you connect to the internet at home through a jack in the wall? lol
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: heh
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: Does your apartment building provide that service to it's residents?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: yes, you don't pick what isp you use, its completely through building if that is whatyou mean?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: yeah, that's kinda cool
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: and its free :) or included in rent, howeveryou want to put it
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: alright, so it's saft to say there's a massive switch in your building somewhere.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: and that the router is working along with DNS
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i don't think i have a router, or at least not in my apartment
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: it's in your building somewhere
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: okay
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: a router is required to switch media
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: okay..
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: and if you can't connect outside of your building, you may have something that is sending your computer bogus connection information
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: nod that would be my next experiment to attempt to connect outside my building (i tried using someone's wireless butthat was a no go)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: although i dont really know if that would tell me anything
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: was the wireless network secured?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: no
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i was erm borrowing it or attempting to
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: and you had the same problem?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: it didn't say anything about a network adapter (i don't think... i didn't really pay attention to it because it wasnt really what i used :( )
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: i'd really like to say it's a problem with some windows configuration, but I'
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: m not completely sure
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: you may be right, however before all of this happened i didn't change anything - the only changes ive made are attempts at refreshing ip thing and resetting adapter
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: you probably are right with my track record of breaking things small and large
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: and no matter how much you do that, you won't get windows to change it's DNS info if it's manually set.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok.. fortunately i didn't do that and left everything as find X automatically
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: are you sure that some malware didn't secretly change something?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: honestly, it is extremely possible that might be it
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: how would i check that?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: going into the command prompt and typing ipconfig /all
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok.. and after doing that, what should i look for?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this is where you would look at the DNS line (the dhcp line may be helpful as well)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, wireless uses a different network adapter than wired, so it's not your adapter if you're having issues on both
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: then you find your ethernet adapter and make sure that the IPv4 address is the same network as the default gateway
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: and DNS
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lywryn nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok where do i find the default gateway address or network
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "ipconfig /all" at a command prompt
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok so still in that - so wherever i manage to find the currently used gateway, it should match to the one on ipconfig /all?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: and if they do not, which one should i change (and how) to make it match?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: important lines are "IPv4 Address", "Default Gateway", "DHCP Server" and "DNS Server"
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: yeah, the default gateway (the 0.0.0.0 mask 0.0.0.0) should point to the router
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ipconfig won't list teh 0.0.0.0 network/mask...that'd be route print :P
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: true
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok but i dont have access to the router, unless i can see the router address somewhere?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: router = gateway address
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since it's an apartment building network, it could be even as simple as someone else turning on a windows feature without knowing what they're doing...
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: do i need the nbetwork/mask thing?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't hurt to have...the network mask is actually what determines whether 2 IP addresses are on the same network or not
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: same mask, same network
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can have different masks and same network...it's only how the mask relates to the IP that determines...
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I like pie. And with that i'm off!
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: oh yeah, right
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok.. i'll put that aside for now :)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've had networks taken down because someone checked the box to "share this connection" on their wifi adapter...when they docked and connected to the wired, they were now a rogue DHCP server on the network & borked random people trying to connect ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: haha that was me
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: just kidding :p
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: wow, that would mess things up
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I know who did it here (a county library system)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but for you, it MAY be someone else in your building doing something like that without realizing it...since you ask for a DHCP address whenever you boot/connect, you could be getting the right router's DHCP some times, and a rogue ones other times, hence randomness
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lywryn nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Doc Holliday claps at your performance. 
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i really hope its something as easy as just buying a new adapter :(
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if wireless had similar issues (I didn't read all the history), you can pretty much rule that out
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: oh wait and if things are not the same between ipconfig /all and other places i should look?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we'd have to try to determine which values look right, or try going to a known point (friends with some neighbors who aren't having issues?)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok but should i try putting the 8.8.8.8 in as the dns server still? or should i just get that information?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae takes notes.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first get the info for its current values, then try 8.8.8.8 as DNS server...you can also try pinging 8.8.8.8...that's a DNS server that google runs free for anyone to use
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pinging 8.8.8.8 should pretty much tell you if you have connectivity to the Internet, without caring about DNS
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: how would i do that? command prompt?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, at command prompt, just type "ping 8.8.8.8"
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok but the only thing about comparing these things is that where would i find what i would compare things to? like grabbing the default gateway from ipconfig /all - where do i find the other bit to look at?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're just looking at the different pieces of ipconfig /all
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: oktech ok, and if i find out that there is an internet connection through pinging, what then?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: comparing the values to each other...IPv4 address should be similar (but not the same) to default gateway and DHCP server...we'll check the validity of DNS server, although that may be similar or can be wholly different
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then that means that your Internet connection is working at the lower layers, but the higher layers are failing...the most common of those would be the DNS, which should be fixed by putting in 8.8.8.8 as DNS server
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: thanks so much :)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: another thing to try is going into MSIE's tools -> Internet Options, click the connections tab, click LAN settings...make sure all 3 options are UNchecked
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: thanks!
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: lol, I <3 the OSI model
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: how can i remove the {/scan} when i scan?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: help tags
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags scan off...note that any plugins to highlight GQ targets, etc won't work then
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: ty
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nineyva Tech: Hi there, I'm kinda curious how much data is transfered for example during one hour of playing this game... Could somebody please gimme some estimate?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krimp Tech: depends on how much fighting or travelling you do.  1 to 3 megs maybe
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it depends on how active you are, how wide-open you are, and where you're hanging out.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can type "compress" right now to see how much data you've used since connecting
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nineyva Tech: Okay, thanks... I'll be offgrid during the weekend and I'm thinking about playing this via my mobile connection :)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vash the Stampede Tech: compress will tell you how many bytes have left the server since you logged in, if you are using mccp
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUDs don't use much data at all
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nineyva Tech: Thanks, I'll check the compress.... Thats everything i needed... Thanks a lot ^_^
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: where can i find that plugin which color me the cp-qp-gq mobs when i scan? :)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: give winkle a giggle, I think that's the one you want.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Anyone know how to make cexit on WinkleWinkle S&D?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: you make cexit through the mushclient mapper, not s&d. 'mapper help' will tell you
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: ty
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: YES
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: if anyone was keeping track: the default gateway is blank in ipconfig /all
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: how can i make a new one?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ....andddd stupid microsoft says it is fixed with service pack 1 but i have 1 & 2 :(
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you can set ip address, subnet mask and gateway address manually
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok.. what should i use for the default gateway? and do i have to reset all of those or can i just do the gateway?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you'll need to enter figures for all of them
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: gateway addrses should be the ip of your router
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: subnet usually 255.255.255.0
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ip address usually same as gateway but with a different last number
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: the ip of the router.. i dont have access to the router. but can i use the ip address listed from ipconfig?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: only if it's right
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you don't have access to the router, you won't have access to the internet
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is it the only pc on the network?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok.. what i guess i mean then is that i dont have a router that is visible to me
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: though it should be, right?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: if by network you mean are other computers connected to what i am using, probably, as it is from an apartment building
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i don't know. after the autoconfiguration ipv4 there is a (preferred)..
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: have you tried any handy network fixing tools?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: many
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: and many times
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which have you tried?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: it always wants to reset the network adapter and get a new ip address - both of which i have done
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tried dial-a-fix?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: what is that?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's a collection of useful tools
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: this mud sometimes is a collection of useful tools....
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Who are you calling a tool?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: sadly, it says it doesn't work with anything above xp :(
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i know but there is only so much i can harass people :p
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what, there's an os after xp?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: hehe
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'd suggest reinstalling the os :-)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae lives in fear.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: got recovery disk?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: yes..
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: back up and off you go :-)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i'm not sure that's the route for me :p yet
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i guess i'm going to try to see if i can use the ip address that is used in ipconfig? i can't connect to the internet so i don't think i'll really lose anything if it doesnt work
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you can try it, but unless you know the gateway ip, you won't get online
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i thought the gateway ip was the same as the ip?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: is there a way to determine what it might be?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Usually, the gateway IP is same class-C block, but ends in .1
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ip address is your computer's unique number, gateway ip is the router/modem's unique number
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what was the ip address you had?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: the one i currently have is 169.254.179.223
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: type route print, the first route listed is the deafult gateway
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well that's definitely not right
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: that's a auto-configured address
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: oh
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: the link-local ipv6?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: don't worry about ipv6
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: im just looking at things that have the word 'address' in them - i have physical address, the link local deal, and ill assume the subnet mask number is an address
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: when a windows OS can't an address from a DHCP server, it uses a randomish class B address
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: like fe80::   type thing?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: that's an ipv6 address
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: the physical address is the MAC
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: something like 00-21 ... ?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: yeah, that's the hardware MAC address
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok, can i do something with that?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: no, it's not important for this situation
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: well.. my cable comes from the wall. is there any way to get the address i need?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: get a friend to plug their laptop in and get the gateway address from that
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: yeah, what he said
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: or ask your apartment manager for their network's ip information.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yeah, like they'll know
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: if i have to see them, i can just get the gateway deal from their computer (if they let me)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: how can you tell that the autoconfig ipv4 is incorrect? maybe if i get (yet another) new one of that it will be the right kind
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: autoconfig is never right
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Unless you know what the DHCP server is doing.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: but there is an 80% chance or so that your router's ip is 192.168.1.1, lol
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 192.168.0.1 more likely
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or 10.0.0.1
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: yeah, something like that
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: 192.168.2.1
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: there is shitload of them :P
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: the class A private range is also a possibility
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: could be the class B private range too.. it all depends on the number of hosts the network is build to accept.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: built
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: but if there is more than 253 potential hosts on a network, it's not going to be class C unless this building has multiple routers.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: thanks :)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: so when i get the ip address, i will use that to manually set the default gateway - use the same address?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: lol, kinda
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: alright, for example.  I have a network (192.168.0.0).  I have a router on the network that has an address of 192.168.0.1.  I have a host (computer) on the network with an address of 192.168.0.2.  On my computer, I would set the default gw to be 192.168.0.1
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: In OnPluginCommand, is there a way to tell if the command came from the command-line or from another script?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i know your IP im going to hack you Lywryn!
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: You should definitely go and hack 192.168.0.1 right now.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: going to start my attacks on 192.168.0.2
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: lol, do it
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why would you set anything on the computer? dhcp not good enough for you?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: dhcp is not working it seems
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you better turn it on then ;)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: OnPluginCommandEntered for anyone who cares.  :)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: I'm having issues w/ mapper - specifically my run tries to make me go down, but at the room it wants me to go down there are no exits.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: er mapperthisroom only shows e w s n 
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what mapper
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: check your runprefix?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Sorry, I'm incompetent. What does that mean?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: or reload zone and reexplore.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: or
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: right click the room and select delete exit
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: and delete the down exit
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: or that, depending on if its an issue with the mapper or with an in-game conflict.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: I would have tried that , but vidblain and mapper 
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: doesn't allow me to select single rooms.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: in the interests of impartiality: other clients are available
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: vidblain, their's your problem
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RikiTiki Takihisis is agreeing with that None the Wyza person again...
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: there's* even
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Is it because the area is a maze?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: its not a maze
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: but you never end up there in the same place
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no, it is because you get sent to a random room in vidblain when you enter it
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: ah okay. 
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you do if you get there via a portal
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: I'll fix that w/ my sendhia one. thanks guys.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: waffles, you can turn mapper bigmap off, then you can select particular rooms on continents in mapper
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Very cool did not know that.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Atticus Tech: why would a trigger on mushclient that i made yesterday and it worked great, no longer work today? nothing has changed about it at all
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: did it save properly
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Atticus Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Is it possible you unchecked enable in trigger? 
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Atticus Tech: collecting souls in wyrm, have the message for when anyone gets a soul to report in gtel, works when others get one, but not me (i have 2 different triggers)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 3 options, really: (1) it's not enabled, (2) the pattern isn't correct, (3) it's being overridden by another trig which isn't fallthrough
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: I have updated to the lastest Bast plugin but when I startup mushclient, it keeps saying that I am using an older version. Why is it that?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the message you're getting is probably about the aardwolf mushclient package, not bast's plugins
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: it says: There is a new Bastmush Package development snapshot available. Your version:r1800 New version: r1817
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: but I have already installed r1818
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: then you didn't upgrade correctly
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: what have I done wrong?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to update, you should be putting the whole unzipped folder in
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not putting particular files in
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you copy all the files from the zip into the directory that you have my plugins?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: I did. I renamed the old directory to a new name and unzipped the whole new Bast directory
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: aah, you have two folders with my plugins under your world/plugins folder?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: move the old folder out
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: Ok
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it isn't designed to be moved like that, just copy the new over the old
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: I see
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: Be right back
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: the problem is solved, thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: your welcome
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: is there a way to configure Bast plugin so that I wear the invis ring automatically after I become visible?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not likely
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: OK
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you would most likely want to detect when your gmcp state geos from 8 to 3
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: I don't know how to program gmcp :(
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have an events plugin you could try
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: sure, where should I download it?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hmm.. i havne't psoted it anywhere yest.. let me put it on my site now
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: ok thank you
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: and what is your site address?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: finger him
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: ok :)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hold on 3 mins.. i'm posting it there
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: Ok :)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ok.. events plugin - http://code.google.com/p/aardwolf-scriptalicious/downloads/detail?name=WinkleWinkle_Events.xml
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: found it, thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: will display triggerable text when you change rooms, areas, or your state changes...  3 = standing, 12 = running , 8 = combat
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: ok
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: why display triggerable text, and not use broadcasts? doesn't it get spammy?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: becasue then players need to know how to write a function to intercept it.. this is for the everyday mudder
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: teh trigger text has a mute" command
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so the triggers see it but the player doesn't
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i deal with people who dont' know how to unzip a file, find where their mushclient folder is.. gotta keep it simple as possible sometimes
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: I installed the winklewinkle.xml. What should I do next?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: zinuu - as an example of your ring issue - make a trigger against the text in red ~~{ id='char.status.state', event='change', old=8, new=3 }~~
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: this will get displayed when you old state is 8 (fighting) and your new state is 3 (standing)
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: zin does that make sense?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: I don't quite understand. I just made a trigger and testing it.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: oh, it worked!!!
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: sweet!
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: thanks a lot WinkleWinkle
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you are seeing the "spammy text" still type "showevents" to hide it from view
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: I don't see any text. The trigger sees it though
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: perfect!
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crolin Tech: Anyone have the consider all plugin window up and running?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: so my internet is mysteriously working again, but in the meantime i have my ip address. is there any fiddling that i should do that might prevent this from happening again?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crolin Tech: anyone here able to help me with an issue with alias's and triggers in MUSHclient?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: It's always better to just ask the questions.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: shoot.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Bang
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: cute.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol :D
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crolin Tech: I am trying to fix a script which just needs to fire an alias on entering the room, the problem is when it sends the trigger it is not reading it as an alias
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crolin Tech: 'That is not a command. Type 'Commands' for a complete list.' is the responce 
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Your alias is set-up right? So when you type "Alias_name" it fires?
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send to execute insted of world
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: aww abe, i was getting there.
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i wanted to feel smart lol
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crolin Tech: lol, Many thanks.  Tell you what, I am a game programmer who used to play muds back in the 80's and this is making me feel like a noob again.  lol
T3/r6/2012-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: dam, so he's already smarter than me..
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: is there a way to make a script to over ride a runto client side and use my portal?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: If you're using MUSHclient, you can just set up a portal cexit in the mapper.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Try mapper help and look at the portal options.  
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Then using mapper goto and room numbers in your scripts.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hi there tech - I'm buying a new monitor, but NONE of the websites show built height :-(
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can anyone tell me the average height of a 27" monitort?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i would guess 20" but that's a wild guess :p
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I have 49cm, or 1'19" (This is height from base to top, to fit under desk shelving, btw)
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it probably varies a lot, whether wide screen and so on... also how tall the base is
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I know :-( I was hoping the manufacturer's websites would have dimensions, but so far nothing...was just hoping for a ballpark, but I guess we're all still rocking 23's, eh? 
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i have 19 :/
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: don't see the need to compensate
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn runs away in utter terror!
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: man, trying to make some simple windows for common things is pain for someone with no coding experience.. :)
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But how can you have a million miniwins open in 19 inches?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vakieh was kidding
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Sure you can, you just won't be able to read them
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i have 3 miniwins in mush.. main, chat and map
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and statusbar if that counts i guess
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: anyone out there that can answer a aard client question?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: is there a better way to cast spells other than "cast <spell>"?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: no
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: anyone familiar with a plugin to replace runto automatically with a portal when I have one in a specified container?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: mapper does that ulrich
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: mapper goto roomnum uses portals if you have set one.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: so i have to type out the spell everytime i attack?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: I have to use mapper portal function though right or will it auto pickup if I put in runto <destination>
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: or alias an abbreviation
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: you could make aliases so that you'd only have to type something like "cast FB" to cast a fireball probably
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: okies..thanks for the help :)
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i use a g15 keyboard and bind the spells to 1 key
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: I just want an easy way to make a few windows and status bars.. but seems like a daunting task in any client
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: i have to clue what a g15 keyboard is :(
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: just a gaming keyboard
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: ah..that makes sense
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: The aardwolf website has a download for a version of mushclient custom-fitted for aardwolf.  it already has everything that you're looking for.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: chat window, mapper, etc.  Just set up a few keypad macros and a couple of aliases, and you're good to go.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i have a gaming mouse too but cant seem to get it to work right with the mush
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: i'm using that now...used to use zmud and could make buttons
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: would like to bind my heals to my mouse, attacks to keyboard
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: zmud is still available, but very outdated with the new gmcp
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah i used zmud as well a looonnng time ago
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: I'm using mudlet right now. Buttons are easy, but windows are not, at least for a non-programmer
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: i'm sure..was hoping i could do something like that with this client
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: I just switched to Mush about a year ago, used zmud for 12 years prior to that.  It was a painful switch, but I'm much happier with mush now.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: Although I do miss my buttons.  I've heard rumor that buttons are capable in mush, but I haven't figured it out yet.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: if you do..please tell me :)
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: absolutely lol :)
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i would rather play on my phone than my laptop because the phone client has buttons lol
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i hate typing and one messup in a critical moment could cost you your head
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: you could also send a note to fiendish and see if he knows anything about it.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: my memory isnt the best at time..having my spells on the screen helps
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: I always just keep my primary combat spell on keypad key1.  Solves that issue for me :)
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: that's what macros are good for
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah actually you could use alot for that with the cntrl if you wanted to
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: but i use my numpad for travel so thats out
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: me too
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: numpad travel is only 2/4/6/8.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: I use the F keys for my spells
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: keys 1,3,0,dec,7,9 are all available :)
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: i use more
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah i was thining you can bind the fkeys to spells
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: I use 7 for up, plus for down.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: and plus and minus
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i even use the /, *. -, +, ., and 0 on my numpad
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: i bind mana and quad heals to f11 and f12
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lywryn nods at RikiTiki Takihisis.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: so 1/3/0/dec/9 I use for combat stuff, eqsearch all is on *, score on / *shrug*
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: whatever works for the individual user.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: I prefer one-handed operation though, makes life easier/faster.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: the pest is back...anyway to make my own blank window?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: any way
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: how do I make MUSH stop allowing certain lines to tack onto the end of my prompt?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: in other words make every line start a new line instead
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: I was wondering the same thing yesterday
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: like when 2 commands are entered quickly, sometimes the result is output on the same line as your prompt?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: exactly
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: yeah I have no idea, I'm still a nub at this stuff :)
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: I think double spacing the output will fix it but not sure how to do that either
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Does putting a %c at the end of your prompt help?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: I was just able to get all chat to reroute to a seperate chat window, but it still leaves a blank black space behind in the main window now lol
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: no pedwiddle, it autochecked my prompts and said those are fine, I even have a visible %%c in my standard prompt somehow
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: back again..setting up my F keys but when i use them it brings up the client help page
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: global pref - general - tick "f1 and f6 are macros"
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone have experience with a 3-monitor setup?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Specific q: How likely am I to need to run a second gfx card?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: very likely
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: depends on ur card
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: almost 100%
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: System as yet unproduced, looking at an MSI 580, or possibly twin 560s
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: i've got a msi 580
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: only single cards that can support 3 displays are atis
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: nvdiai requires 2 or more in sli 
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: limited by fermi chip
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The 4 outputs on the 580 aren't simultaneous? (DVI, VGA, 2xhdmi)
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: no
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: there are 2 monitor limitations on the nvidia chipset.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Well yes they are simultations but not all 4 can be used at once.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Sorry I wasn't clear the limitation of sli means that u can only have 2 display outs per card due to the fermi chip.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: How successful might I be to run 2 monitors as extended horizontal, and 1 as separate? Does that hit the same restriction, or bypass it?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: doesn't change anything at all.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sigh...thought it might have been a processing restriction :-(
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: It's def not a processing issue. Just chip limitation for whatever weird reason.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm - never run 2 cards before - will a better card pick up the slack of a poorer card?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Thinking I might get a pos seconary to run the 3rd monitor when I need it
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: card has nothing to do w/ output at all.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: er output performance.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Why do you need a 3 monitor set up so much?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: You can buy a really shitty 3rd card.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: to get the 3rd output off it.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: er poopy card.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I don't need it desperately, but I've hit a point where the only way up is sideways :-P
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: what size monitors are u looking at?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Got 2 big monitors for my regular work, but ide's seem to be getting more and more real estate hoggy
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: I'm running a 27" and a 20" more than enough
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Got a 23 and a 22, with a 27 on it's way - I'll take the upgrade to the 22, but if possible I'd run the 22 as well
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: The problem is you have such dinky monitors.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: That you think you need 3.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: When you start maining the 27, I don't really think you will need the 3rd.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: a pair of 27" = more than I need. really could get by with just one.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: There are only a few instances where 3rd monitor makes real sense I do 3d / 2d digital artwork and dual monitor setup is optimal.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: I think stock brokers/day traders need 3 screens.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Playing games with Eyefinity can use 3 monitors.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Atm I tend to run the ide in one screen, complete with it's billion windows, the actual program in  the other - I get bugged by having to alt+tab the ide to get to a browser, etc.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (can use 6, actually, I think)
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Yeah, but honestly it's kind of stupid right now.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: I wasn't that blown away by it.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: But if you wanna spend that much money be my guest.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: In a couple of years things will progress very rapidly.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Things already on the horizon blow it away.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Plus personally - seeing the disjoint of the monitor really bothers me when gaming.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I like the way Supreme Commander handles multi-monitor - though that said it is only dual
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You could probably buy bezel-free monitors if you REALLY wanted to.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Not saying you should, but they probably make them
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: hehe...I don't need more than 1 screen for gaming
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: cept mebbe Aard
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: you always need more screens =D
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Aard is too difficult to mud on a 27" for me.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: I keep it on my 21
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Just looking at their website, there's over 80 games now that support a 3x2 array of screens.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: rofl, fear my 12.1"
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: My 27" is at 2560 x 1600 so aard text is incredibly tiny. 
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: who's website?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: hehe...at work we play consoles on a 3x3 50 inch array...using the PA for sound...tis awesome
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: I have one screen, aard, castleville and family rights running pretty constantly
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Have to make sure the place is shut nice and tight before we do that though
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: AMD's, Kuro
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: lol eyefinity has been useless afaik. Most of my games think it's a sham and they were approached to sponsor it.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: sounds like fun :)
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: ATI thinks that it can increase your gaming performance and a bunch of stuff.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, as for text, I boosted my main output to 12pt so I can read it faster
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: my 27 is 2560 by 1440 but the main aard window is like 8 inches wide and 10 inches tall
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: I prefer nVidia, the ATI card I'm using has been buggy =(
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: I almost always go nvidia for professional work and because of gaming drivers.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: ati has always had terrible driver issues w/ gaming in comparison to nvidia.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kurojiryuu rapidly nods twice at Waffles, in complete agreement.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I always find ATI to have sync issues...it seems to get better metrics, but the sync is ALWAYS off
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Shrugs, I usually keep vsync on.  I have enough of a card that it rarely leaves 60fps, and I don't really see the point in more.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: I almost always disable vsync.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not talking about vsync, I'm talking a/v sync - the ATI cards seem to be a little behind where they should be
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Causes issue w/ most games.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Hey, speaking of nvidia, is there support for optimus in linux yet?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Ah, haven't had that problem.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Granted this was perhaps 6 years ago now, so it could be a fixed issue by now...
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Only problem I've ever had with my ATI card is drivers that they had out for 2 weeks or so that would blue-screen my comp whenever it woke up from sleep.  They fixed them eventually.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Aah, bluescreen...haven't seen one of them in a while
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Which is surprising, because I treat my boxes like 2-bit whores for the most part
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then again, my comp is only 2 years old or so, and I don't do any overclocking on any parts.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incense Tech: isnt that like saying...my car is only 12 years old?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Worst I've had happen in the last decade is a fried PSU, which of course fried the rest of the box, but that was our switchboard's fault, not the pc
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I'm also not really picky when it comes to most stuff, so it might not be perfect
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: is any way to make spells-skills damage in one line?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: is there an adapter available for a recharger that plugs into the car lighter? (I have that but I want to plug this in in the house)
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i've hashed my hashes, hurrah!
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: anyone good at math?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If it's 1+1 you want, I'm your man
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 3!
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: hah!
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: one plus one is two!!
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kanmuru Kirua is a traditionalist
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: I'm thinking about a graphic to show possible main exits: N,E,S,W,U,D.. I'm trying to figure out how many unique combinations there are and my logic is:
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: 6*5*4*3*2*1 / 2 to eliminate duplicates /6 to eliminate each direction itself
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: and I come out to 60 possible unique directions available
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: doesn't make sense to me....
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So...you are looking for combos like a room with N/S/E available?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: unique combinations of 5 movements?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: 6 rather
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: yeah unique comination of 6
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Because if that's the case it's a simple case of a base 2 number with 6 digits
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 128
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you have 'other' as an option
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: how 128?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: ah, nevermind
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It comes to 63 without other, 127 with
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: then i don't get you
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 128, "no exits" is an option
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: True
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: doh forgot about no exits
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i guess i don't understand the question
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: how many ways can a room look if you include all possibilities of exits - I think that is the q, anyways
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hasn't it been answered?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: ah, i was thinking of the lines of if i had an apple, pear and orange, how many different sequence of eating three fruits can there be
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: the idea is to make a little compass that has a graphic with little arrows for each available direction. Upon entering a room, it reads where you can go (not counting special exits) and replaces the graphic with one that has the available directions lit up like up + west + North or just East, or nothing lit up for no exits
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That woul be n! iirc
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: yeah, n! works
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I would use 7 different image places instead Sskaar
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: but that doesn't account for multiple exits available with only 7 possible images
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: image overlay?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: ooo hmm overlay you say?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not 7 possible, 7 spots, with the room in the middle, and 6 exit spots, which you either fill or don't depending
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: failing that you'll be needing 128 images
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: ok, I'll have to look into transparancies then, that would help a lot.  Thanks guys
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: transparencies would mean you only need 14 images
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: plus maybe 1 "background"
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What tech are you using to display these? Surely you can display 7 different images instead?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: yea I figure the "no exits" could serve as the "background" heh   Vak: I have no idea, I'm way new to GUI stuff, not a programmer, and most likely..thinking waay far ahead than I should be... 
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hehe...indeed you are :-)
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: I still have issues with basic triggers even hah!
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Instead of displaying 1 mutating image, you have the centre image, and either show or don't show the ones around it
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: ohh I get what you're saying, that sounds like it would be pretty sweet
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So you only need 1 image per possible exit, which means you have 1 background/noexits image, and 7 images you show as needed
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: smarter
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Share of Hotele royale for the island
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: mis
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That show/don't show image could even be the same one, but you rotate it as needed - so really only a background and 1 sprite
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: show/not show would probably look pants
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Which is of course nicer than 128 images :-)
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you will probably be better off having an 'on' image and an 'off' image for each
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh my poor compy...dust so thick compressed air did nothing...took a kitchen brush (new, obv) to get it out
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I forgot about 1 side of it o.0
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: I hear ya, my poor comp had the same thing not too long ago
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alestorm Tech: How do I turn mccp on BBSSH?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You can't.  BBSSH is a SSH, MCCP is a mud protocal.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you connect to something that has mccp, and use that to connect to aard
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: If you have a home computer can SSH into that, and install a text client thoughl.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for me, I connect to a unix box running my MUD client, tinyfugue
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i use semaphore to connect
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alestorm Tech: I set it to telnet?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: telnet to connect directly to aard, yes...whatever protocol the other computer/proxy supports to connect to that
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could use duckbat's proxy to give you access to mccp, gmcp data, some scripts, etc
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alestorm Tech: where do I get thid proxy?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: anyone knowing macro in excel here? :)
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: what in particular about them?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: anyone good with wireless/networking?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: nope!
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bimond Tech: <--- in school for networking...
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alestorm Tech: I'm ok in wireless
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alestorm Tech: do you need help?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Anyone had a problem where there's no output to the main window in mushclient? I vaguely recall someone asking about this one over the last few days, but don't recall if there was a successful outcome
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rude boy Hhugo Tech: anyone use gainmonitor for MUSHclient?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lytebane, that's usually the result of mass-enabling all of bast's plugins at once, where some of his plugins are (intentionally) redundant and will conflict with each other
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I tried disabling all of the bast plugins, it seemed to work, then tried re-enabling them a few at a time until it stopped working. I tried restarting it without changing anything and it worked OK again. Seems slightly 'random'.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's maninly an initialization issue iirc, which is why restarting it fixed it
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I wonder if it's an intermittant conflict between bast's plugins and winklewinkles. I've recently upgraded the bast ones and started using winklewinkle's ones.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't use multiple plugins with the same functions
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whether from one scripter or multiple, they end up fighting
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I don't now. I did still have some of bast's internal broadcast bits overlapping (cp/quest/gq) but I've disabled them now. I use bast's spellups and winklewinkle's Search and Destroy, and quest infobar plugins. I'll see how it goes. If it's intermitant I can live with it. Thanks.
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: neargh!
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trenick Tech: anybody know how to escape semicolons in blowtorch?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: does doubling them work?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trenick Tech: nope
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: If not I'd suggest trying /
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trenick Tech: tried quotes and other chars trying to find an escape char but no luck
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Use .
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Well, .;
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trenick Tech: although i did find that (at) does something wierd
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...sorry, misread the blog post - ~;
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trenick Tech: .
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trenick Tech: dot+semicolon doesnt work
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: In v1.0.8, semicolons may be escaped with "~", so entering ~
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Well, you get the idea
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trenick Tech: hooray tilde worked! thx pedwiddle
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: what is the question to refresh the bast spellup plugin?  i only have 3 active affects but it thinks i have 20
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: reload it?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: no effect
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: guess i'll just log out and back in
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: hmm, for me, it loads spell headers at the beginning
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: bsp refresh
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec likes Bast plugins but sometimes find the documentation confusing
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: anyone using mudlet client?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: 5 people, from what 'clients' says...
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: oh wow didn't realize you could check lol
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So...I've been wandering around with a trogan for a couple years...thankfully I never ran it o.0
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: trogan = trojan
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: tech bogan?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: bogan, where
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: Vaki's "trogan"
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Was an old game +5 trainer
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pthyro Tech: my prompt is jacked... forgot how to fix it :(
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pthyro Tech: support i could just add a new one
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pthyro Tech: suppose*
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: to reset it is "prompt all"
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawxs Tech: what is the command tto minimize hotkeys on screen while playin on my phone?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: no idea Hawxs
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: ahahaha I just did "kon" by accident.. the output is awesome!
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Try killing something with a name starting in 'wi' - only you hit the space wrong and type 'kw i'...
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: ahhh
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Staniel Tech: anyone know if the standard PS3 controller has any magnets in it?
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Staniel Tech: i want to rest my hands on my laptop to hold it in my lap while playing PS3 but i had a bit of a fright after unwittingly setting my phone (which has a magnet) on the laptop and it scrambled a bit of data, so i don't want a repeat :p
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: for the rumble motors
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Staniel Tech: poop. okay, thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Any OS X devs here?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Is there any way to make in-game alias only use one semicolon instead of 2 semicolons? = =
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in-game aliases only use 1 semicolon...you type 2 because just typing 1 would never be sent to the MUD because MUSHclient would hit enter instead...
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that being said, if you start a line with a semicolon, MUSHclient will ignore subsequent semicolons
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: I see. Yeah, would like to use only one when modifying them o.o
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so ";alias testalias echo this ; echo is ; echo multiple ; echo lines
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: test
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: bleep bleep bleep blup
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: What happened with this "
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Trigger function "chats" not found or had a previous error
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: closed cliend and reopened, it works now.
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Client*. How do I know my MUSHclient version btw?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: How do I upgrade mush to the 'r1580' version or something like that?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: does it not offer a download for you? 
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the aardwebsite has a section of how to upgrade
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: And how do I know what version I'm running?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in your mushclient folder, there's a file called AardwolfPackageChanges.txt
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Thanks Abelinc found info on Fiendish site
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: abelinc went badass in night at the museum 2
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the first was cute, haven't seen the second
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Any idea why I can't add Winkle's Tick Timer Plugin?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: do you have another tick timer already installed?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Winkle, none, I have installed any aside from the default timer. o.o
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ^sigh^  please read step 4 of my install instructions
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: aren't instructions for pussies?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: noone reads install instructions
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: then they ask questions that the isntructions answer
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: if you read instructions you're less likely to end up with a cool pile of spare parts :(
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Okay, but it used to work before with the default one. 
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silver Von Ruval Tech: what would cause my computer conection to aard to disconnect less than a second after it connects?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: a Malware phishing site?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silver Von Ruval Tech: its like i get to see the lohin screen. and disconnected
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: maybe your automatic script has the wrong password entered or something?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: how are you connecting to aard?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silver Von Ruval Tech: mushclient
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silver Von Ruval Tech: no. im not even given the chance to enter a password. hut i cant tracert it either. maybe im being blocked
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: have you cleared out your characters in mush?  I really don't know anything about mush.  Then try to log in.
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silver Von Ruval Tech: gtumble. 
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: how are you connecting now?  Telnet?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silver Von Ruval Tech: cell phone
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: so basically telnet then.
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silver Von Ruval Tech: yes. but telnet on my computer gives me the same siaconnected
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silver Von Ruval Tech: somehing in rhe routing from my computer to aard
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: can you connect to google?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silver Von Ruval Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: from your computer.
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silver Von Ruval Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silver Von Ruval Tech: if i open my command line and tracert aardmud.org. it goes 8 hops before it times out
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: where does it hop out?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silver Von Ruval Tech: right after my gateway
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: cable or dsl or satelite?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silver Von Ruval Tech: um. work. so unknown. im guessing sat
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silver Von Ruval Tech: t3 connection
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: so at work right now then?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I think there's a problem on the net somewhere, I'm getting about 50% packet loss. Are you UK based by any chance?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silver Von Ruval Tech: yup
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silver Von Ruval Tech: no southeaatern us
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silver Von Ruval Tech: and i so cant type on this phone
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: I am thinking your IT managers have blocked the gaming sites myself.
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Might be a problem further down, I just lagged massively there
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silver Von Ruval Tech: i suppose thats a possibility. but ive been doing the same thing for 6 years
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silver Von Ruval Tech: ill have to fire one them to set an example. 
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: I expect you don't have this problem when you go home.
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silver Von Ruval Tech: ill check it out from home when i get there
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silver Von Ruval Tech: am calling ITs now
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: let me know via personal note if works from home just fine.
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: well I know in my company, the IT people shut everything off IP related to a game.
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silver Von Ruval Tech: yes. but i can get to flash games without incident
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: remote desktop to a machine you can play off
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: that's through a web browser.
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Mush connects directly.
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silver Von Ruval Tech: this is just plain annoying. thanks for the help
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Your very welcome Ruval
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ok im doing a "insert into table (col1, col2, col3) (select 1,2,3 from table 2)"
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i want to add the on duplicate key update at the end to update col3, but not sure proper syntax of that
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: nevermind i think im retarded
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yup im retarded sorry
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alestorm claps at Doc Holliday's performance.
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alestorm Tech: lol :P
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: hah!
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Anyone know how I can keep my previous command in the prompt? Using AardMUSH. Sorry, it's been a while. :(
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: up arrow
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: That works. Thanks. <3
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: anyone have any idea what would cause me to lag out every 5 or 10 mins....with game...with browsers...with everything
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hot router?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: i dunno...it just started happening last night...first time i've ever had a problem
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: modem feels fine...barely warm to the touch
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: windows or Linux?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: windows
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: windows update on?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: restart modem
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: yep
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: yep
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: tried resetting modem...no change
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try traceroute to see whethere there are packets losses
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: how do i do that?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: are non-internet activities stalling
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: nope just internet stuff
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or rather use winmtr
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: dsl or cable?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: dsl
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: fantomex my entwork adminstrarot willb e glad i opened that linka t work!
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh god the horrible typing!
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: get http://winmtr.net/ and run it, you will see if there are packet losses
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: did your internet activity go up in the month prior to the lag (maybe the isp took notice and downgraded you)
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Are there anygoo
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: nah they can't do that...it works great in like 10 minute bursts then goes loco
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Whoops, sorry. :(
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: how old is the computer
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Are there any good plugins for MUSH that deal with quest and CP assistance? Like, finding mobs, or something?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: less then a year
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: is the computer location dusty
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: not realy
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: sheen you just described my search and destroy plugin
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Thank you, WinkleWinkle. <3
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: i don't see any packet loss...will monitor until my next lag spike
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: dust accumulation inside a computer does affect performance, usually adversely (reboots, freezing, internet remodulations, ...)
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: i can pop the side off it later and make sure but the house isn't really dusty
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: are there any new appliances nearby that may be leaking electromagnetic interference
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is rare that after 'dust' freeze computer works - and here after lag spike everything works withour restart, right?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it could be duplicated IP in network - for short lag / network down
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: is there supposed to be a big list of hostnames on this winmtr program?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it depends on your network connection and destination host
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually more than 3-4, less than 10
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: 13 for google.com
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but if there is loop, there may be almost infinite
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but loops are quite rare, and usually means network problem
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or rather routing problem
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still, 13 is not unusual
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: ok
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: halp! my keyboard is missing the Y key... i can't find it anywhere?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: How are you typing it now?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Did you check under your pillow?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just ctrl-alt-f1 (or f2 ?) and use Z instead
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i really dont' know!
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: when slight performance difficulties arise (every six months approximately), with the computer off and disconnected, i open the case and use a powerful vaccum-cleaner blower - the dust flies out of there - and the difficulties disappear
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh great and it's missing a G key too
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe if you turn cyrrylic or some other exotic keyboard layout you could use just one key
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but wait, how could you type G if you miss G? or maybe you means small g ?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm missing both the big G and the small g!
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: small insects (and itty-bitty spiders with their cobwebs) may also cause difficulties - they seem to like monitors more than computers
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the word "bug" in PC terms came from a computer malfuntion in WW2 where a bug broke teh computer
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'd like to slaughter my telecom company
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: an insect
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: ok so during that spike i actually got booted from mud...100% packet loss for like 7 mins
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: restarted modem to get it working again
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: someone usign a crappy baby monitor nearby?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that can wreck wifi
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: neighbors maybe...but i can't see that affecting it too much....it's all wired..no wifi
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if the packets were being stored then all released at once, that may cause a disconnect and reboot
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: bleh this is getting over my head
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: i smell a call to tech support after i get groceries
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's reccommended mtu setting on adsl2+ pppoa?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: What command to use on statmon from bast aside from 'statmn rep'? 
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yanta Tech: is there a way i can set up a hotkey to attack a monster that im fighting?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: map or picture map?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mis
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: How to configure mapper to auto-go to cexits?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i don't quite follow
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: if you use xrt or xcp it automatically uses the shortest path.
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i think my ISP is set to disconnect me any time double starts
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Mine lags me everytime I leave my manor
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: internet here is renowned for being old fashioned, but is usually quite a bit more reliable than this
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so how typical is it that ever since they 'upgraded' it, it's been shit
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: They upgraded our lines just short of a year ago. Connection is more unreliable now
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: "Yeah, your download speed should be fine. Try playing something online, though!"
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Tiger, where are you from? o.o
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: UK
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: i have a question about the default Aard client. how do i make communication log items appear only on the comm-log window?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Ednian - left click the Comm log and turn the "Echo to Main Window" or something like that options off.
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: well, that was straightforward. thanks!
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: are there any internet isp alternatives in the UK  (aka competition)
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the problem isn't the isp's, it's the infrastructure
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: sounds like an apprentice to Sir Humphrey of Yes Minister was in charge of internet "upgrades" in the UK
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that dates you... and me!
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: telephone infrastructure, internet infrastructure is great
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: in places the phone network it operates over is copper wire 40 years old
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: they my've "upgraded" to a thinner copper wire, or done a shoddy job at the connections 
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if there is no competition, there is less incentive to provide an improved service
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well it's like having competition on a railway line
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: largely irrelevent
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: in America, internet optiuons are: satellite internet (no good for games),  dialup (no good for large downloads), wireless by antennae, cable
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: here you have broadband over phone line. thats it
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: broadband on urban phonelines, but not in rural areas (where wireless or cable is encouraged)
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there is no cable in rural areas here
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: rural areas get cable since  cable was around for decades
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: by rural cable, a collection of 100 houses
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: urban cities and towns get fibre-optics, but not the rural clusters
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: does mush disconnect any of u when u do like who or are on ideas and do note list?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: note list on ideas will pretty much disconnect anyone.
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: have you set the page length?
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: your connection cannot handle the amount of information mush gets instantly. so just read help page etc 
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Very few clients have the buffer capacity to handle that kind of data that quickly.
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Or just do note list <num> where <num> is a reasonably small value.
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: So, either set a pagesize or do note list 30
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: and make that help pagesize, not page.
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: or just do note catchup
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: anyone know a client that works well on macbook
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: mushclient
T3/r6/2012-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/clientfaq.htm#mac
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: anyone know how to restore mapper rooms? my mushclient mapper fully purged itself somehow
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: backup folder?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: which folder is it in?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: db_backups
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: which file do I replace the backup with?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: first move the original aarwolf.db file.. then copy the back to main folder.. and remove the extra letters from the name after .db
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: hrm
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: I replaced the file but my mapper is still not restored
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: kill it!
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: did u change the name to aardwolf.db by removing the extra characters?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: yep
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: then i dont think it was the mapper :p
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: what else could it be then?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: wait.. u restarted mush right?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: yep, closed mush, then replaced file
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: no more ideas here sorry
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: yea that sucks, everything on mapper reset, including my cexits
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohinder Tech: is anyone using the BAST EQ mini-window ?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: hi all anyone know the best way to play via iOS????
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: best way to play on iOS????
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Is there a plugin to auto use key provided you have them?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need a plugin for that, aard does that
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have a key, and try to "open <direction or object>", aard will use the key
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Hehe, being lazy. 
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: how do i turn off my acsi map?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: automap will stop the MUD from auto-sending it when you move
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: thank you
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't want it shown in MUSHclient, you'd turn off that plugin
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: how would i do that?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> plugins, select it, disable...it really does come in handy to keep though
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cover it up with other plugins for when you don't need it, but it's good for mazes
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: is there an easy way to make a miniwindow?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: buy a smaller screen.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: miniwindows are created as part of plugins
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kessala )
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: harrold, "miniwindow" has nothing to do with size
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: my bad.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a term MUSHclient uses for window-like objects which have no formal window parts
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: where might i find a plugin foir that?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kessala, what are you trying to do...pretty much everything you're seeing on mushclient is a miniwindow-in-a-plugin
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: like a little notepad..to put info into
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that can't be done in a miniwindow
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: rats
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: why do you many people ask for that?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: windows comes with a cool program called notepad... :P
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because it's handy
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: notepad can't be put into a corner of your MUSHclient screen, however
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: In MUSHclient, when I go to a destination, is there a way to remove the list of places that I have passed something like that.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it can if you want it to
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not without hacking windows
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using a floating window utility
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: another question..how can i save my client setting? mine seems to reset everytime i log in
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> save world details, or make sure you close MUSHclient cleanly
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should be asking to save pretty much whenever you close
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: unless you are using windows 7 and put mush in the program files folder
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: in which case if you don't run it as admin then it can't write the settings
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: hmm..won't let me access and save..running vista btw
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: the same applies
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: if
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: you put it in the program files folder
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you put it into program fies folder?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't do that ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: so I have to run as Admin then?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: it even says on the download page not to put it there
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: its in the program files folder
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vista and w7 don't let programs save stuff into the program files folder
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: are you even reading what we are saying?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: bingo!  that should be it
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: from the aardwolf client page: "Note for Windows Vista / Windows 7 users: We recommend that you unzip to a directory outside of the Programs or Windows folders and run from that directory. Unzipping to the Programs or Windows folders will require you to use an administrator account to run the client."
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Wyza I just started this program.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Timeghost Tech: hopefully not as admin :)
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kessala Tech: i thought i did..guess not..thanks again 
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't run it as admin, just move it
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: the folder?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: yes, for example, sticking it in C:\ would be acceptable eg C:\MushClient\
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: okies I have to ask why not run as admin?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the reason admin accounts exist...
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: running it as admin gives the program admin privs
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: what if one of the plugins you installed were malicious?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: it could go do things that you don't realize its doing 
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: well it's not going to unlock ports I have blocked is it?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: if you run a program as admin
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: then it can do whatever it wants
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: that's the whole reason for a root user
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: that's what admin means :)
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Evidently Visible nods.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: except the admin in windows isn't root
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: it isn't?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: no
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Timeghost Tech: he's a vegetable!
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Oh wow, learned something new. So there' s a permission higher than admin?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click -> run as admin is NOT the same as "a member of the administrator group"
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Rightclick -> Run as Admin = the highest privledges that user can give?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, it can do things that the initial user/the user named administrator cannot
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: I'm just saying that the admin level doesn't have full rights under the windows operating system
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: I never run this system under root.  If I do, I turn off internet.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but right-click run as admin IS running that program under root
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Abelinc it's running right now in a vitual box.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, why?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless you're not running windows as your core OS, there's no reason to virtualize MUSHclient
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: its kind of like using a cannon to kill a fly
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: I don't run windows as my primary os.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: abelinc: there's nothing higher than admin built INTO the windows operating system, but you can code for a user higher than the admin since windows didn't give the admin full privalages.  This was the center of the anti-trust lawsuit.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: visible, that is not true
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: alright
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: I trust what Abelinc says.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: then tell me why a user couldn't delete, a root privalage, internet explorer.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually they could
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they'd just render their system pretty useless
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes yo can
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: I have win 7 running in Vmware.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: if they could have done that it would have saved microsoft billions of dollars
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: however, the permissions weren't relevant to the case
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: you should give them a call, maybe they can get their money back
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it wouldn't have saved them anything...you're quite incorrect on the core of the case
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: ok
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: permissions never stopped people from removing i.e....the fact that windows wouldn't run without it is what stopped people from removing it
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: windows won't run without Ie?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now it will...hence the case
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the antitrust case had nothing to do with vista or w7...
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: that's true
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: I was going to say, I run 7 without problems and no ie.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: well, maybe there is a root user in w7
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: prior to vista and w7, the first user created was king...now in vista and w7, they're more of a prince, with run as admin being king
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: I haven't looked into it
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so we now conclude that you've got no clue what you walked into the middle of proclaiming expert status of...
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Visible I am queen of my system.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: so they fixed the root user issue in w7 is what your saying
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, they made it behave how you thought it behaved before :P
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it didn't behave that way UNTIL vista/7
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: no, what I'm saying is that you can put a program/virus into a windows system that a root/admin can't delete.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Um...Vista still gives me bad memoriers.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: that's what I'm saying
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Visable I guess you never looked into port blockers much?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Evidently Visible grins evilly.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's what you're saying, it's just not correct, visible
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: port blockers don't have anything to do with the filesystem
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: alright, I'm wrong
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: that is correct Abelinc
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the root user can remove permissions from himself, so that he doesn't accidentally delete things, but he can also go back in and give himself the permissions back without needing to do anything to elevate himself...
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: windows or Unix?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both, actually ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although to delete a file in unix, you don't need permissions on the file ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file deletion is done on the directory, not the file
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: you still have to be root.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Or running a magnet over the harddrive.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you just need permission on the directory
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: no you need write permissions on the directory
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a non-root user who has write perms on a directory can delete a file owned by root that he has no perms on, if it's in that directory
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: and you can have directories that root doesn't have permissions on, of course root can just add the permissions but that isn't the point :P
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at None the Wyza.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Thank you guys I am learning something here.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so if you don't have write permissions on a file you want to update, you can rm the file and put the new one in, but you can't open it in vi and write it ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: and my friends say you never learn anything from a game.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: how wrong they are
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: you can't, you learned that from Abelinc.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I use aard hints all the time when watching jeopardy
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: well just stamp stupid on my forehead.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: seven wonders will teach you the 7w of the ancient world, for example
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: LIST EM
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: holy crap my S&D script is broken?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: is that a question?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: wont run me to the beginning of the area and its throwing up random gibberish!
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: or a statement?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: statment :P.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: should i just reinstall the plugin?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: no ?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: exit & start up mush again
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: ^
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: just did.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: still broken.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reinstall it, see if it's better...if not, copy the "gibberish", as it's not random
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: SQL error on statement:
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: SQL error on statement:"SELECT value FROM worlds WHERE name = 'Aardwolf:Top Height'"disk I/O errorSQL error on statement:"SELECT value FROM worlds WHERE name = 'Aardwolf:Bottom Height'"diskI/O error
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: it is gibberish huh?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: reinstall it?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: oh wait, now its working -.-
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: nope nevermind
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, not gibberish...it's trying to ask the database stuff which is mushclient related and not database related
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: when i tried to X out of the mushclient there was a page full of some of those errors.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is this a new download?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: by new, you mean?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winkle's
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: This is winkles yup
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: but i've been using it for like 2-3weeks
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vadar, what area were you trying to run to?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the first room likely has a ' or similar character which needs to be escaped
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: anyone know for sure of any conflicts between winkle's plugins and bast's?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: there is probably conflicts between the spellup ones
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: but i run the s&d and basts and it works
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I dont use basts spellup.. so no potentionl issues you think?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: try it and find out, worst thing that happens is you have to disable it
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: true
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: tanks
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: anyone using fireclient?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: can you configure mapper to like give 5000 gold to someone? Someone like that?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: like a cexit
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: mapper cexit give 5000 gold <target>
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that is a cexit
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: oh thanks!
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: same thing with opening doors, doing emotes, saying things,etc
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: it will tell you to wait 2 seconds to find out your destination, i suggest you do so
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Yeah, I wait for it to say it's confirmed before moving
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Anyone familiar with AardMUSH mapper commands (and WinkleWinkle's S and D plugin?)
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: eh
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: the mapper is not winkles
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: I know this. :)
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: did he say it is?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: He is asking in combination.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: then the answer is yes, many folks are familiar with it
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: I purged the portals currently on this mapper database I received a long time ago (and am finally using it now), and it's been going great with S and D. I've only a couple portals though, and once of which would be the amulet of the planes. One of my CP mobs is there, as is a quest mob, and I was wondering why it wasn't working. I was just wondering what I could do to rectify that.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: how do I search room in the area I am in only? mapper find searches all areas
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: mapper area
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: check mapper help for commands :)
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: mapper area
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: also, what myrkul said :)
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: mapper help has it under ===== FINDING THINGS ==========>.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: hi i REALLY NEED HELP with fireclient
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: any takers
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: best to just ask the question.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have never heard of it.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ah, Fireclient is no longer in active development.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: ok, im using fireclient and to read something like my map i u sed the page up which then stops the screen following all the new messages etc but i can not get it back now and i havre to keep scrolling down to see whats new!!!????
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: fireclient is no longer in production, apparently
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Flanny: What is your OS?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just because it's no longer being developed doesn't mean it shouldn't be used...
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the why-it-shouldn't-be-used is more about when it stopped being developed.  It stopped shortly after ZMud went deadware.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: Ixle i need your help with all this, how can i chat with you privatly?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: which version of Zmud went deadware
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: trollololol
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: help tell
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: 3.61 4.62 7.x
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: all of them.  The only version that still even works, I believe, is 7.21.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: meh, tell that to management. our ERP system stopped being developed about 8 years ago..  just be cause it is old and doesnt do what you need is no reason to upgrade
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Heh, I still use zmud 5.55 when I'm out and about.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: at some point, Microsoft is going to stop including the files that let ZMud actually run at all
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: smart move by microsoft, force more users to migrate to Unix/Linux 
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Apple is causing the same issues.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: riiiight. i'm going to migrate to linux desktop because ancient software isn't supported any more
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the way they're babbling on about win8, dunno.  If Windows and Apple end up supporting linux, not sure how much of a future there will be for the separate OSes.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what do you mean by "windows and apple supporting linux"?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Win8 is going to be interesting to see. However, I am not certain how much it will push into the tablet market.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: w8 seems to be w7 tablet edition. 7 is probably the new xp
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Win7 is XP it seems. Vista was horrible.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, even xp is horrible compared to 7
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why install *nix, with all the limitations and differences therein, if you can get the same thing in a Windows OS plus all the power and accessibility of the Windows franchise?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: devils advocate, because you get all the vulnerabilties as well
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh noes. seriously, windows machines are quite secure nowdays. it just happens that the users are still idiots
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and handslanda, "all the power and accessibility"? accessibility, probably. power, nah.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i actually use two linux machines via ssh on my w7 laptop for that extra power windows doesn't offer me
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Unix/Linux support by Microsoft/Apple to trick Unix/Linux users to migrate to and stay with microsoft/apple - then further down the line, support for Unix/Linux dwindles/deteriorates and whammo, Gotcha!!
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: osx is unix
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, but with alot more restriction to SU :P
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't think zade understand operating systems
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: *shrug* Does anyone anymore?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, but at least i don't think there's one big market with only 3 players for all your computing needs :P
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I'm supposedly going to a very nerdy school with a strong emphasis on technology, and when I talk about linux/unix I get looks basically saying 'wtf is that?!'
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i assume you're talking about desktops?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I wish I was only talking about desktops. They use windows servers, too
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because average joe doesn't need to to use *nix on their desktops and you can't really blame them for not knowing
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, are you saying that you know people who run servers and don't know what linux and unix are?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Sheldon Cooper prefers the "friendlier" Vista over Windows7  (and there was no bazinga)
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Unfortunately, they are more common than you'd believe.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: They know Linux/Unix exists, but pay it no heed/credence.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, and?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: should they?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: They should at least have some basic understanding of it, more than knowing it exists and what it's name is.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how would that help low level windows admins playing around with active directory?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Linux/Unix is viewed as unfriendly (by most muggins) unless an educated nerd with an eidectic-memory and high-intelligence
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: somewhat true. it's definitely that if you're not comfortable with cli
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: nah, thats why we have standards, saying that every admin needs to know windows and linux is like saying every admin needs to know IP packets inside out
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, clicky-clicky kiddies are far too prevailent to understand linux.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i've been using linux for 10 years now and i'm pretty sure linux desktop still sucks a bag of dongs
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Meh, Gnome isn't too bad to deal with :P
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: KDE annoys me, though
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: gnome 3 is
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's true. but it's not great either, cheeze
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: windows 7, in the other hand, has an awesome shell
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Meh, Aero is a resource hog.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use windows 2000 theme, of course
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: does that really even matter, though, considering the hardware era vista/7 is targeting?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: It sure as hell does when I use it on a legacyt machine.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: legacy*
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's why I qualified with the hardware condition
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: riiight. because everyone wants to use legacy hardware
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's very important. like supporting 16bit apps
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: I haven't noticed any slow downs with aero, a lot of the features actually help me at work.. the only thing is.. somehow MS decided that you wouldnt want to snap windows to the imaginary line dividing 2 monitors
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger nods at Drakoth.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: windows breaking legacy compatibility is awesome. they finally threw the old garbage out of the window
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Noticed that at work as well
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's not just to the dual-monitor line.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, os purists suck
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: OS X FTW
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: i cant wait till the obsolete VB6 for good..
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there's one :P
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I'm no purist, by any means -- But i think that people SHOULD know the other options.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sneak goes, "Whee!"
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle hates YOUR os.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: cheezeburger: evangelists are even worse
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: OS X Mountain Lion.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Bill Gates said he liked "Basic"
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Gates is old enough that he probably also liked applescript
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: richard stallman eats substance collected between his toes. so?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: anyone know if its possible, and if so, how, to change the font in winklewinkle search and destroy GUI?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Ask winkle? lol
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yeah.. there's always that.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: nah jk,i wouldn't know.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: As far as I can see you'd have to change the script. Try a search for 'font' in WinkleWinkle_Extender_GUI_2.xml. Looks like the first couple of lines it finds should do it. Just tried it and it seems to work.
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that's right Lytebane :)
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Any S&D users, now what the command is to ak-nx, obviously can click the button, but wanted to macro it?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: anyone know where applications are stored on a mac?
T3/r6/2012-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the iCloud :P
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: iPad randomly gets laggy with Netflix? Thats my internet right? not the ipad itself? Because it usually runs smooth no prob.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You have your own internet? Cool!
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: take that long to think of that witty comeback? :P
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I was afk :D
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But yeah, it's probably the interwebs that is the problem if it usually works good.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Could also be multiple background apps running on the ipad...like my grandmother's ipad, jeezuz why did we convince her to get one of those...
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ~100 apps installed...~100 apps open
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lols
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i just cleaned out all my apps and restarted the ipad. first time in a month haha
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: hahah
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So the ipad doesn't manage open apps correctly. Another reason to select android then....
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adai Tech: Just learned my RAZR won't get ICS until Q3, ugh
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: root it.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: the razr is the best phone atm?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: not even close.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: well it's close, but no :p
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: whats the best atm?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adai Tech: Galaxy?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: the one with sprint?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: all carriers have the samsung s2.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as always, there's no such thing as a best phone atm
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: hmm, didint the razr come out after the s2?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: the only thing that keeps the galaxy nexus the best is the crappy camera.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I like my galaxy s2, it's not perfect but it actually works pretty good.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Yes, but release date is not indicative of best phone.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and ranrr, android has worse app management than the ipad...first app most experienced people put on droid phones is a "kill all apps" app
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: I still believe the iphone 4s to be best smart phone. 
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's not needed anymore on android.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: meah app management is fine on android....the kill apps messes you up more than it helps
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: That's cuz it's built into the os now.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: aah really? thats why my dads phones constantly die lol
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: he's always getting kill apps
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: swears by them
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: if you read up on it...the apps that are running that people kill just restart and slow your phone all to hell...its better to get a usage monitor
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: app killer wastes more energy now. Best bet is to either get a custom rom or just ignore it.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, advice to get a custom rom isn't indicative of a problem being solved
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Yeah, but unfortunately it's the best solution :/
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: meh i have a crap phone anyways
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I occasionally kill apps that are misbehaving, but that's not an OS issue, that's and app issue.  Happens on any OS. I never need to kill all apps.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: replenish ftw? :P
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: That defnitely is an OS issue. iOS handles app management differently.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: i will kill an app too....but most people with kill app programs kill them without understanding why and then they restart and such even more power
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So, what's the iOS way?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: a custom rom on android is nice....its solves a lot of things
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: didnt apple put it in the os?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ios apps won't auto-restart (other than the built-in ones which are designed to always run)
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: iOS is apple mobile's operating system.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes, and how does it handle misbehaving apps?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: it copies android and kills them 
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes ucla, from the time ios could have multiple apps running, the os had a feature to let you kill any app you wanted
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, quitting apps was invented by android?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: i know i was an iphone user from the first iphone until a year ago...
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I thought someone said that iOS was doing things differently...?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it isn't letting them auto-restart themselves, for one thing, ranrr
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: invented no.....not able to multitask yes...so once they multitasked they just included what android had available forever
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if I kill an app, it's dead until I decide to open it
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's the way my android works as well
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: lol.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, they included what's pretty much a requirement on a multitasking OS...
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: thats not true ...it depends on what app you kill...if its a necessary app then it will restart
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ranrr, you just finished telling us that that's NOT how android works
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: exactly way after android
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no ucla
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No I didn't.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes you did
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you gave that as the exact reason that kill apps are bad
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm wrong, ucla said it
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You got me very confused there, abe :)
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I don't say it often, but I'm not afraid to admit it ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Regardless Abe is still right in that each OS handles apps differently which is why the task killing fiasco was causing battery draining etc.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: And, of course, android is not a single OS, it's multiple. Each vendor makes their own tweaks.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Sorry, but the core of android is the same. The wrappers they add are mainly UI.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: read up on kill apps.....i followed the common advice and installed one and it made my phone worse...once i read up on the topic from good sources i realized i was just killing stuff that needed to run and thus rebooting a bunch of stuff at the same time
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a single OS, as linux is a single OS...
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sure Waffles, just like linux.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing that didn't come on the phone "needed to run"
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: A kernel is not an OS, abe.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: thats not true...if you have stuff that auto updates
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: In computing, the kernel is the main component of most computer operating systems
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: In computing, the kernel is the main component of most computer operating systems; it is a bridge between applications and the actual data processing done at the hardware level.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ucla, it is true...auto-update isn't necessary
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: now your being silly...yeah of course nothing is really necessary on a phone except being able to call...but then again nobody buys a smart phone to use it to solely call
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you may want something to run all the time for additional functionality, but that's much different than it needing to run
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I sometimes get confused by the call function on my iPhone...took it off my home screen a while back
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but if you know that there's functionality in an app that you want to always run, then why would that app be included in what you're killing?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I think I am what's wrong with the world.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: that was my point people with app killers people were killing crap that would reboot because it was doing something they wanted but have no clue 
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or it's doing something that they don't want, but the app refuses to listen
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why does Android expose required functionality to non-power users then?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lots of apps think they need to always run...that's not the same as the user wanting it to always run
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: i agree....but a lot of that stuff is settings that people are clueless about...
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: How do you configure mapper when cexit has 2 destination, left and right, and command is same action? Like 'give 100 gold ticket'
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use some other command/method to get there, or leave off the cexit
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Alias the same cexit for both, and you have a 50/50 of getting it right.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Then, when you run there, if you get it wrong, you can 'mapper resume' to try again
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: afaik that is the only instance of a random destination prog worth cexitting - the rest are far less than 50%, and it is worth more to scan/use the ascii map
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Okay, how do I remove mapper cexit in a specific area only?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: go to the launch room, type 'mapper delete cexits'
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't (or you play in the database)
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one area, or one spot?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: that'll delete all cexits right Vakieh? Abelinc, one spot.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: if it is a whole area, mapper purgezone works too
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah all cexits that start in that room
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it doesn't
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: mapper delete cexits removes cexits from room you are standing in
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper purgezone is a MUCH different thing than removing cexits from that area
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It amounts to mostly the same - just need to re-run, no biggie
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it does not amount to mostly the same
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I have found it to - bar notes, etc, which are easy enough to redo
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: purgezone removes whole area. could be problem if there is lots of aq rooms etc. 
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you've found it to, then you're pretty clueless about anything involved
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Enlighten me as to the donwsides, then?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Thanks guys
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper won't add many exits when you're rerunning an area, there are a number of areas where "just need to re-run" and "no biggie" cannot both be part of the same thought
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and requiring to rerun vs not needing to rerun are a very far cry from "amounts to mostly the same"
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I wouldn't recommend it in an area where you can't repeat an aq, but if you can, what is the problem? I've done it more than once where still-learning-me had added dodgy cexits, and haven't seen any ill effects.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And as far as re-running, mapper unmapped here lets you click through 90% of that
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the problem is that when someone asks how to change their spark plugs, you're suggesting that they drop a new engine instead and claiming that it's the same thing
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not anywhere near the same effing thing
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McBeth Tech: how do you delete an incorrect xset in the much client?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xset?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: xset is w/ SnD
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Thanks guys.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McBeth Tech: when you use xset mark for the start of an area
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: xset mark.. the room you want it to be
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McBeth Tech: may be a plugin
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: When someone asks to change ALL replacable parts in a vehicle, seems a more valid analogy
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: replaceable*
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: 'runto areaname' to go to the actual first room, then do an xset again there.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McBeth Tech: I did xset in the middle of a sw...so not sure what area i was in.,.prob a continent Id say
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but they didn't, vakieh....that's the issue
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: it really won't matter if it's a continent.  :)
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McBeth Tech: OK :)
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it could if it's abend
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: simply because abend has MOBs in it, so you may be running to it as an area
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: how to toggle the NP and NL states in Bast's spellup plugin?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does "bsp help" give any clues?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: can't find any clue there
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try bsp info on the spell...it should be taking the NP & NL states from slist (and updating them with skillgain)
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: it doesn't update, just display the info
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: even I remove the spell and re-add it, it still shows NL
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what info does it display? what's your prac % in it?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: prac % is 85
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's the spell?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: nimble cunning
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that's not a spell
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: it worked like a spell before
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: nimble cunning works on bsp spellup plugin for me just fine
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: me too.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Just use the spell/skill number.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: the problem was caused by login in another char which does not have nimble cunning
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: the Bast plugin flagged NL on that char
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjakid Tech: i had to reinstall much is there anyway that i can get my mapper back to where it was
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ninjakid, go to aard's site, click the screenshot, click download client...that page tells you how
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjakid Tech: thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: now I need to get the Bast plugin to flag the skill back to normal
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: I use bsp reset and re-add all the spells/skills but that doesn't work either
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjakid Tech: umm can anyone give me a link to the screenshots page cant find it
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.aardwolf.com
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the screenshot on that page...
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: ok, bsp refresh worked
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: powerpoint viewer for linux??
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Libreoffice
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: libre office
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: openoffice?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: hi all when i type 'who' and then all at the end of showing everyone it Disconnects any idea?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: disconnects what?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: from server
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: pagesize 100 should fix that.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: is that the biggest pagesize setting you can use?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: i use fireclient - any way i can do that in there though?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: it's gamecommand
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: just limits your spam to 100 lines/time
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Better to have it set to a high #, or to disable it?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: disable if you dont need it
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Didnt think I needed it, so its been disabled. Although I also will disconect in very serious spam of information.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: who list is easiest way to check how much your connection can handle spam..
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: or note list on ideas board
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: yeah
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I see, so limiting it with the pagesize right before it disconects.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: yep
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I have my pagesize abled, but I have it set to like 300 iirc, just as a buffer for uber-bad situations
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Slodhian nods at Chaz Bono Cheezburger.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Usually only happens when I first log on, and my spellup script, and mapper stuff are doing something
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: probably getting slist
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Think so, any other ez fixs for that?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: winkles scripts change pagesize to 0 anyways so there it doesnt help. 
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: type 'slist' does it make you disconnect?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: it actually didnt
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: so you are fine in that department :D
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Winkles script loads fine, but then I think its my Basts spellup that actually spams it
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: or the combination... dunno, thanks for the info though.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Lol, it's probably sending 'slist affect noprompt' over and ovcer.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: What would be the reason of it doing that?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: To keep the spellup script working
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Hmm, maybe I should try a different one, or even update it. Prolly using an ancient version.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I love having tech discussions with abe, because that's one area where I know more than him. Always fun to hit him on ther fingers.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: mis
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Hi abe :D
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: anyone using ZMud?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: several, what's up?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: just wondered as ive just downloaded and starting using it - its pretty good right?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there are better
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's good if you enjoy using outdated stuff
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: - such as?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: most of us who use it use it for legacy reasons
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: It's old and cranky and has a goofy internal language.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: the aardwolf mushclient is already set up with more more plugins available
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's a very dumb move to buy zmud if you are in fact deciding to buy a client.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: and can run on modern windows systems
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: aha! cool thankyou - i do like this oldschool look and feel though i must say
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: if anyone is using it can anyone tell me if i can clear my command line after automatically after i have input a command?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can.  It's in Preferences
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: i did look there ill go have a proper look then thank you
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Does the ipad have a client for aard specific or mud in general?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: edit-preferences, general-commandline - tick auto-clear input
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: thats great thankyou Tigernuts - i take it you are using ZMud?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there's no such thing as a custom client for aardwolf.  Aardwolf mobile client and Aardmush are just regular blowtorch and Mushclient with a suite of bot-worthy scripts already built and packaged by regular players.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nod
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: anyway i can make more of a spacing on the left side of the main text like more of a margin
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't think so
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you have to do it via script, but doing so is very, very slow and unreliable.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you just mean you want the wraparound indentation increased, though, you can change that.  Also in Preferences.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: nod
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ctech test
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: test
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I wonder why sometimes when i log into aardwolf the main output doesnt work. and it requires a full restart of the client.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Mushclient that is.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Vadar Reinstall "Aardwolf Layout" and see how that helps.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: It's funny because the communication log at the top always works for me. Even if i can't see the output in the main screen.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: when in doubt blame MS permissions
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Aardwolf Layout is the Main window.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: When in doubt, blame My O Pics.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I like that, witty
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i like to blame everything on Picasa. Since i hate the program.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: just blame it on the kids.  Damn kids, stay off my LAN!
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: Anyone know where to get a client for ipad?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Follow My Rhuli Tech: Search the app store for mud client.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: is there a command to redraw Bast's Events plugin window?  It's messed up...
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I close the world and reopen it when that happens.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: since Mush is a windows program, there are probably less drastic ways to force a screen repaint.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: less drastic doesn't necessarily mean quicker/easier/less hassle...and a screen repaint would probably repaint the messed up view...
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: would depend on whether we're talking about artifacts or badly formatting (or incorrect) information
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: the "black screen of death" appears to require a restart of mush to clear it.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I do not know of anyone who has found a work-around for getting a miniwindow to behave properly again once it has gone black.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: For me, typically it is a black rectangle where the miniwin is located. I don't restart Mush, just the world.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bimond Tech: anyone good wit web design?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bimond Tech: Anyone here really good with webdesign?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never ask if there's anyone to ask
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: always ask your questions
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: anyone here good with rhetorical questions?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bimond Tech: Having issues. I created my images for my header/footer and a left side bar for naviagtion. For some reason though whenever I attempt to add in content to the page, it starts UNDER the nav bar. Can't figure out what i'm doing wrong.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: isn't everyone?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what method did you use to create a left side bar?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: should be either divs or table
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: probably need to stick the in divs and float left
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bimond Tech: Image file from fireworks and defined it in css as "navbar" and did a <div id="navbar"> </div> 
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: navbar doesn't determine where it or other things will be
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bimond Tech: Oh damn, I need to make an ID for the main info area and just give it a left margin to extend past the image....
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bimond Tech: That will work right?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just make your navbar div float left
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bimond Tech: Oh that was a lot easier than I thought it would be.  I'm going to school for networking and admin. I'm pretty damn good there, but web design isn't taught in my school and a job offer asked that I try to get familiar with it. It's not as easy as I thought to pick up in a few hours.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: the mapper keeps making a wrong turn in zyian, how I can force it to stop doing this?  (wants to down south (into a dead end room) when I want it to go wnwwsn...
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: need to add an exit level lock
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: and how do it do that?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i dont see that in mapper help
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if it's a dead-end room, how is it calculating that it should go there in the first place?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, this doesn't sound like a level lock situation
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: one way is to right click on the room on the map where you go south from, click change exit level locks
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: there's a locked door that I guess leads somewherer that's prolly a shortcut.  does the same thing in masq island (wants to go thoguht the bar instead of around the town)
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would suggest collecting the area keys and making cexits where it opens all the locked doors.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first, ensure that it's really a dead end...if it is, you can remove the exit that the mapper thinks is there
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: there is a locked room there that you need from Zyian or something
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: masquerade definitely is a good level lock candidate, simply because of the angry drunks
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I changed the level lock, thanks.  this is fis masq too.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: No joke.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The vorpals too.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: What is mapper lockexit for? o.o
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: vorpal's not a problem with the novorpal wish.  :p
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: hi anyone recomend ZMud?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: there is nothing wrong with it, of folks who are online currently, 67 of them are using zmud
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: of course 230 folks are using mushclient or mushclient-aard
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: (see "clients")
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: does 'save world details' in mush save any new mapper rooms mapped as well?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: nope
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: is there a way to set/use a variable in blowtorch? the same way i set and use the dualweapon in mush?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so i set my dual weapon once and it uses that across a variety of alias
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: anyone know how to move a spell up your spell list using Bast's plugin for mush?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you using the miniwindow?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: bsp help
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: yes, Bast
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: remove it and then readd it with the mouse menu and use Add in Position and then type the position you want it to be
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: thanks a lot, Bast
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Privi Leges Tech: so umm my enter key broke is there a way i can make a macro or something to make my backslash key act as my enter key? 
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: what about numpad enter?
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Privi Leges Tech: thats too far away
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yet you're using it now..
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: its inconvenient to be sure
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: but tomorrow is monday
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: go buy a new keyboard and you'll surive
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Privi Leges Tech: i will not
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: survive even
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: most decent keyboards come with two enter-keys
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: he has one zade
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: he just doesnt' want to use it
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Privi Leges Tech: thanx for the alternate suggestions i'll take your responses as a "no" or "i don't know" to my original question.
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: You can remap keys-- a quick Google search brings up results.  
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Privi Leges Tech: thanx =)
T3/r6/2012-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Privi Leges Tech: yay it worked thanx, now just need to train my little finger to aim high =p
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: Hey can someone send me their world folder for the newest aardmush?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: i seem to have SOMEHOW deleted mine -.- dont ask me how.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: Is there a command to list options for search and destroy?  I want to set autokill to backstab if possible
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Averan's bot program is activated by Waffles and he rolls over on demand.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: auto kill, is just ak
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: right, but I want to set it so that instead of 'kill mob' it spits out 'bs mob'
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: alias it through your client.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: mine uses backstab... not sure why. maybe try aliasing k to backstab
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: that worked
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: ya it uses k, so alias k to backstab
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: thanks~
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Then macro it to a key :p
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: mmm macros
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: xcp 1, go, next, ak, macros ftw :p
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: guys anybody remember what i should put in command stroke to set the default window position for extender gui?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: What is the plugin again that makes you gain noexp when you set a certain amount of exp and that you haven't taken the cp yet at that level? I wanna turn it off but I don't know what that plugin is again o.o
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: I didn't even know there was a plugin for that :/
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: shift-ctrl-p
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: look at your plugins
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: i have no idea what you're tlaking about
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: anybody knows what should i put in command line to return WinkleWinkle Extender Gui window to its place?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I can drag mine around
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: yes i was able too
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: but now somehow i cant reach its upper-left corner on my screen , so i'm not able to drag
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: so Winkle gave me some command to reset it default position
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ahh, nod. try the history on the channel he told you on
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: There was a note
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: you can use his name as a keyword and search for it
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: on what board Vaki?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Um...tech? Could have been bugs though
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: yay it worked !:)
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: anyone have an idea how to fix bast spellup window. its not visible but its there
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: hi does anyone play this via a iphone?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: I play on the Ipad from time to time
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you mad impulsive fool!
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: who me?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh, i dunno :-)
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: what do you use?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: Mud client
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: is there any other one besides that?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: mudmaster?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: lemme check
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: ta
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: and there is a pocket mud too
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: which do tou use?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: yeah I use mud client for ipad. None of the others sorry
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: hows going playing on ipad?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: thank you
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: better than the android phone client, but only because of real estate
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akhenaton Tech: i'm using tt++ in my droid :)
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: If I knew how to use tt i would probably use that instead. I like the mush client alot
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: I'm not much of a programmer type, so Mush is just fine :)
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akhenaton Tech: i'm not a coder or programmer too, just searched web a bit and found a way to install programs to android based phones,pads,
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Is there any way to automatically disable a plugin on exit of mushclient?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: there would be
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You can uninstall it - but why on exit?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: but you'd need to write a plugin to do it
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I can't get bast's spellup and the winklewinkle plugins to cooperate on load but if I load with broadcast_spellskills disabled, then manually enable it after load, everything works ok
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: bast and i really do need to sit down for a few hours and get our stuff to cooperate
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I guess I'll just have to try to remember to disable it before I close. Not a problem, just wondered if I could do it automatically to prevent me from forgetting
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: make an lias that runs this script  -->  UnloadPlugin ("753ba7e011f3c8943a885f18")
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: but change the id to the plugin's id
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: For the spellups, seems to be bast's plugin trying to get the spell list at the same time as your plugins load their stuff that's causing problems. Otherwise it all seems to work OK so far. Only tried it once though, so I'll have to see how it goes.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i think if i enable "Keep Processing" flag it might play nicer.. but i wanna check with bast first
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I'll set that alias up, thanks, that'll make it quicker to do.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: anyone messed around with the Mudlet client?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: how do I reset the database for Bast's stats plugin? 
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Databases aren't really meant to be reset...what's the problem you are having?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: it's got a lot of stats in it that I don't want. I would like to dump it and start again. I guess I could just delete the physical file
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oh yeah could delete it, or could just use firefox's sqlbrowswer to delete the one table you don't want - Is it from an old char or something?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: sorry for going afk, yes, Mendaloth it's from an old char. I think I will delete the file!
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you want to start over, delete the stats.db file in the logs directory (or move it) and then reload StatDB
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: hmm if i execute the command "who", i m disconnected.. 
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: too much output for your client
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Staniel Tech: set a scroll amount to keep that from happening
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Staniel Tech: help scroll
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: The client doesnt want you to make friends :D
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using a client that supports mccp helps greatly with that
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: How many can mushclient do?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all, for "who" output
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so i can set Pagesize 0?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll disc for a "list" on ideas board tho
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can always leave pagesize 0...just don't do things that would cause aard to send insane amounts of data
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i guess not, it just died.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: pagesize 0 and disconnected again
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: same
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i can't pagesize 0 lol
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's rarely a need to type who with no arguments, or to do a full list of the ideas board
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes you can
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: just don't type who or list ideas?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: got it :D
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I currently have mine set to 400, and it doesn't disconnect on anything I try to do, but pages the ideas list
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: that way it'll show most everything, and not DC
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, lots of people online now
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yup, i like your solution bast. thank you.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: np
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a good 50 more people online than usual
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and with pagesize 0, you can still list notes on the ideas board...just do note list 100 (or other reasonable number)
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: anyone know how to get the automapper working on zmud?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: step 1) install mush...
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: might want to upgrade to cmud or mush
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it generally works if you tell it to automatically configure itself
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: how do i tell it to automaticall configure?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: hi anyone know how to get the automapper working in ZMud?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Nope - not me.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Automapper? whats that.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: should go into settings, to the mapper, automatically configure
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir points excitedly at Ol' Dirty Fiendish!
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: afaik it's a pita to get it properly working
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Fiendish is the Aard Mapper - not ZMUD
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Which is Excellent By the way :)
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that doesn't mean he wasn't using zmud mapper for ages
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basic functions should work fine out of the box, advanced stuff can be really pimped out, but require lots of handholding
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darth Vadar makes a loud sucking sound
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Yes, if anyone knows how to set up a zmud/cmud mapper bo... err, SCRIPT, let me know.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cmud uses gmcp, so basic setup is fully automatic
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud doesn't use gmcp, but for non-same-name rooms is pretty good without needing to do much
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I can't seem to get my compose key working again...
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien complains while testing.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: hi how do you split the screen in the MUSH CLient?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: explain?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: hammer + chisel
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: so i can scroll up and read the text above without it constantly scrolling with new text?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ahhh
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can turn off the feature that auto-drops to bottom on new text
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well the "auto pause" setting should take care of constant scrolling
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but there is no split-screen mode unless a plugin simulates it
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: auto pause should be set by default in the aardwolf mushclient package
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but if yours isn't set, press Alt+5 and check the box for t
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: for it
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: I don't know about mush but that functionality comes out of the box with mudlet though
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: But then you'll have to sacrifice the awesome client package :(
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice at Ilushya, in complete agreement.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Auto pause basically prevents the output from moving if you scroll up from the bottom
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: to get it flowing again you go scroll back down
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: you guys are the best
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: one other question - can i turn off the background image in the map say like water image if imin the sea etc?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the images are just .png files in worlds/plugins/images
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: There's an option on the menu to turn off the images, the '*' in the top left corner
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh yeah. I forgot about that
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: area textures I'm guessing
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: once i have setup my layout like i want it how do i save it as once i shut down and restart it just resizes them
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: press Ctrl+S
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: to save your world settings
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can also "aard layout lock" to make things unmovable
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can also lock the layout so even dragging won't change it
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: great but where do i find the lock layout?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: hi how do i lock my layouts?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: aard layout lock
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: i know that many visual programming languages use preprogrammed components, but dont blank page/open sheet language programmers also work on building one mechanic at a time or work towards their own "component" piecing them totgether?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want to write stuff to be modular, if that's what you mean
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: recyclable code is a good thing
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we're all about the environment ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: pve 
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: so my main display won't display anything, but my communication log, mapper etc are still updating normally
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: help?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: exit & restart mush
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: I already did twice :(
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: third time's the charm! brb
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: same thing
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: disable bast's plugins 1 by 1...I forget which one glitches that way
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: and make sure you have ticked in world properties-output unpause on send
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Reload the Aardwolf Layout and see what happens.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: how do I do that
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: Any other suggestions?  Everything by Bast is off, still no output to my main display
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "plugins reload areaDB" should fix it I think
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc writes that down
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: 'no plugins match areadb'
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: did you check the world properties-output-> unpause on send?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: exact case
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: yes, I did slodhian
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: copy/paste exactly what I put
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: ok, then do what bast says. 
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: plugins reload areaDB, still no match
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: this is what I get for restarting my pc
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "plugins" do you have an areaDB plugin installed?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: he put all your plugins off bast.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: no, it's not there
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, that is the one that usually messes stuff up, do you have mine and winkle's plugins loaded?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: not all of yours, but yes
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: there has been rumblings of my plugins and his not working well together, but I don't know which ones clash
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: been working for months, ahhh!  I'll set up a fresh build of mushclient I guess
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: and the fourth restart magically fixed it
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: I'll just accept it, and never turn mushclient off again
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: it's cause you needed to restart after disabling the plugins
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: I am using the mush client is there a way to keep the previous command in the typing window?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: yes.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I don't know off hand it's in the Config Options somewhere
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: World Properties - Input - Auto-repeat commands?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: type Alt - 0 and you see what you need to do.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: just check auto repeat command after alt 0.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: that help you out Raidyn?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: how do I do a trigger, say i was to put as5, and have it cast spells, what is the seperator
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: a: thats and alias
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: b: try ;
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: c: care, stacking spells and skills is a good way to get yourself killed
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: its only three spells at a time
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: any way to get the text not to show in the main window, but to stay in the communication log?  
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: for the mush client is it hard to set an alias to use a portal and then drink ?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can do that mudside, if you want.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Not at all.  You watched the youtube video or looked at Mushclient's website?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: but no, not hard
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: ie en
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: ie 'en
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Raidyn - there is a way to get text to not show in main window too.  Right click on com logg and Turn echo in main window off
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: will watch mushclients website
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: here we go
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: thanks that is what I needed, whew
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: I am using a netbook with limited realestate
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I feel for you - I have a widescreen and I feel so cramped
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: thinking of getting a new computer, but with kids money can be tight
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: anyone out there use online backup services?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I use dropbox to backup Mushclient - that's the only thing that'll bring me to tears if I lose.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Mendaloth, Is there a way to use dropbox as an online flash drive?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are you looking for formal backup services advertised as such, or just a spot on the internet that will likely still be there if your hard drive crashes?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I'm looking for something that can do comprehensive backups.. like store an image of the harddrive... or failing that, something that can back up years worth of outlook e-mails and auto-back up new emails every night and back-up changes in select folders, etc.  Any ideas?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: IF you want privacy try Google+, nobody will ever see it there.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I've seen a lot of companies that do that - but not with the sizes most people would need and I've never used them myself.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: You can't make your own online backup?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i just got myself a external storage for that, serves as a cloud too
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: It's probably going to cost more upfront, but be better in the long run.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darth Vadar points excitedly at Kanmuru Kirua!
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I just use the Aardwolf Note system for backups
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the best online storage is GmailFS
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: practically any of them do all that.  Carbonite is the big boy leading the charge, and it does it all automatically so you don't have to remember.  There are plenty of other brands out there, and I'm sure Barracuda Networks has a pony in that race (you hear ads for them about hardware firewalls and email backup devices).
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the most free storage of any service with the greatest reliability
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: I use my microsoft skydrive online
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I don't trust Carbonite - just something about their ads - see too many
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Amazon has a good one too. Especially if you have prime.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: agree, but I can't have gmail domains for everything :(
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elena Tech: You can use a different domain with gmail.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Was I reading something recently about a peer to peer backup system - seems interest
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Try Dropbox for backups.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: elena - really??
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: I have an alt for every mood :)
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elena Tech: Yep.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: just create a nas
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Is there an online backup that can save and sync my mushclient across computers and on a flash drive?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: dropbox
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also gmailfs
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: dropbox
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I can boot dropbox on my usb tho?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no, that'd be silly
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so it couldn't sync my usb from a foreign computer?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ignore my spelling
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you probably can
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Go dropbox, it auto-updates everything when it see changes in a folder.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i'll try it out.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i'm pretty sure i've tried it already. but nothing wrong with a second try.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: So you can access it anywhere. It's a good one.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I just came back for trolling, but even when I discovered what a ghost town the channels have become, I stuck around for the new classes, and who can't resist variable rewards like daily blessing?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: oops
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: also I love the tech channel :)
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elena Tech: Conveniently color coded to make you mix it up with ftalk and everything. :)
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: rofl
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: how much space do you get in dropbox?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I believe 2gb for free.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Starts with 2gb, can get up to 8gb I think with invites
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: oh snap
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i may be wrong
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i remember reffering a couple of friends to get bigger storage.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: 2gb free was accurate
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: hah! i know some stuff
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: rofl
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i feel like abelinc lol
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but does drop box auto update at night?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: whenever you change it.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: also, if i want to save outlook emails, is it just the .pst file I need to back up?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Whenever the file changes, it updates immediatly
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Yeah. You still have access to the old file.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: kojiro didn't you ask about this like 6 months ago?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: Winkle I don't think so.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: 500k to someone that can tell me what files I need to back up to back up all e-maisl in my Outlook inbox
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: isn't there an export function?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linabelle Tech: should be archive
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linabelle Tech: you should be able to create a .pst file with all your email in it
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I don't archive anything, because then they are hard to search
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linabelle Tech: oh, you want flat files...
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: oooh kojiro.. GL with that haha
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I just want something I can tell a backup site to backup regularly.  something that captures all my outlook emails.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: well I gave up on the mush client and went backto mudlet which is easier to use.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: BLASPHEMY!!!
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linabelle Tech: do you have python on your windows box?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linabelle Tech: looks like someone's got a potential script to do it in http://www.antionline.com/archive/index.php/t-272027.html
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: why is it hard?  I thought I'd have 10 people telling me what an idiot I am
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: ok how about a trivia point
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the usual suspects aren't online it seems
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: winkle what % of players online do you estimate are part of your botnet?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: lol.. well i wouldnt' call it that.. but i know i've had around 300+ downloads of S&D
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: primarily it was a tool to help VI players do CPs
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Menahem Tech: Kojiro, see here for outlook data file locations http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook-help/where-does-microsoft-outlook-2010-save-my-information-and-configurations-HP010354943.aspx
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: which i might add it does well! all the VI players i know who use it say they can do CPs once more
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: A good % players were already using scripts just as, if not more powerful on zmud/cmud. The average person who complains about Winkles is just mad about there advantage slipping away imo.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i dont use SD but I love Winkle for making it
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: mushclient where mob, mapper find room, click is same thing just slower
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: why would my chat window display colors but my main window show all the @ color sets?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: type "rawcolors"
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: that fix it?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: yes thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Although it can't be abbrieviated wierd that it turned on.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Anyone been having issues with Bast's gquest tracker?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: what sort of issues, mine is a bit older version and gets slight bugs at times
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: yeah.  mine never seems to record any wins.....
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I don't need to win them myself, do I?
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: hehe well mine is just acting up - keep getting a nil error. ANd I fix it in the database but it keeps creating new ones.
T3/r6/2012-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: what's the command to lock mush windows in place?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Is there not a roomchars plugin for mush?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: is there a way to load a youtube song into my computer so i can hear it when i'm working offline?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: yep
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: would you like to tell me how? :P
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTeHdb3RIGM
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: is it possible to delete a single cexit in mapper? instead of mapper delete cexits?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: you can right click on the room
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: s&d not working anymore?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I've got a problem with it too. Might be related to the reboot? Doesn't seem to be recognising the reply from 'hunt' anymore.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: maybe o.o
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Not that anyone here is likely interested, but I had been having a lot of trouble with tinyfugue not looking right in visual mode (wrapping going haywire, etc.).  Turns out, I didn't have all the ncurses libs I needed for gnome terminal.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Minor victory on my part to figure that one out.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Pedwiddle have you talked to Abelinc?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Yeah, I had - he didn't have any suggestions at the time.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: that's strange, I thought he was very good on TinyFuge
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Oh, he is - no doubt.  And it would have worked just fine if I were using xterm or one of the other terminals supported by debian's base ncurses libs.  He didn't have access to that information, though.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: why do i get unable to create plugin state file error when i open mush? :)
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: any pc gurus here? Pst
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: anyone know of a command that will remove the GQ info from WW's one second timer?  (a tell has so far gone unanwsered)
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: edit the plug
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trisha pulls the plug on WinkleWinkle
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth performs CPR on WinkleWinkle. At least you think it's CPR.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and btw i know that rebot broke s&d a little   fix tonight
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Typo or something bigger.....
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: cliff notes: 28--->30
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: I have to ask what is S&D?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: quasibotscript
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: its the awesomeness we are all using now
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: Amazing awesomesauce
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Lasher was very nice and gave us all an extra two lettwrs of mob name  as piffaron said
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: are the disgusting socials discussing anything tech
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: is S&D supposed to not work for GQs?  just wondering..
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: s&d intentionally doesnt support gqs like it does cps
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: okay
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: S&D == "seek and destroy"
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: next version will list them in the gui   but not clickable
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: but it could be very useful for GQ, I mean list of mobs just to see what to kill 
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah it will list them
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: thats very nice ! thank you !
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: the IMMS are angry, We need to sacrifice a virgin, or a goat
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: umm...not the goat
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: euthanize those that suggest sacrifices
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boss Blackfang Tech: any bbssh users please send me a tell :)
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: AardMUSH users: May I have some recommendations to some plugins? I used to use AardMUSH a while back, and am a returning player/user. Assistance greatly appreciated. :3 (I've got S and D from WinkleWinkle, but that's all I have.)
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: finger bast
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: checkout Bast for plugins too , 
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Thank you very much! :)
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: his equipment database is great
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: An EQ database? :O
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: yeah, let's you put/get eq from a bag by level
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: makes managing sets a lot nicer
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: That does sound fantastic! :D
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: madcatz also has a plugin that does that too.. 
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: I want his MUSHclient scripts, correct?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: winkle!!!!!
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: (and Madcatz, will see to his.)
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: Winkle, you're the best and don't let anyone tell you different.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: don't listen to Kojiro, Wink, you suck
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I dunno, not sure he's eclipsed Fiendish yet.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Piffaron grins evilly at WinkleWinkle.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: And Fiendish, too.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: don't muss with Winkle or he'll activate the trapdoor in SD plug-in
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: why is google.com down right now
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: it's not
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: privacy violations
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: because they hate freedom
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they bypass Apple and MS security stuff.  Next up will be *nix.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not Guilty Kojiro thanks Vakieh heartily.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: osx is *nix
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there are more flavors than osx, though.  Lots more.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: takes time to hax them all.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, i remember you. you're the stupid one from yesterdays convo
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and by the way, wasn't Apple's Google woes just with iOS or did it also include osx?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: they stored some cookies - big deal
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And it was with Safari, not iOS or OSX
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: re: a comment about eclipsing Fiending... my plugins are almost NOTHING without Fiendish's plugins to leverage .. there will never be any eclipsing on that front.  Also his coding professionalism is something we all strive for.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: heh, Xyliz would beam with pride at your reaction time.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Mapper is powerful :p
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i also use Fiendish's tech channel recation time.. two hours later do a tech -h and then respond
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: he's been known to respond to discussions that happened this morning...now.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: -s S&D
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Sorry, mischan.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: I'm giving up trying to search the history to catch up on the current conversation - is there a new S&D already?  I'm not seeing it on WW's site.  :)
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: he said by tomorrow i think
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Perfect.  :)
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: no fix yet fnord.. I'm rolling forward a lot of changes i've been meaning to release into a new version.. not just a patched old version
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Patience, alot of the features mostly work, just have to manually, mapper area <room> after you hunt.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: I already sort of patched it...
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: In the new version if your on a CP, and start a GQ, will it auto refresh the GUI for the GQ?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the way i'm coding it.. that GQ will always more important than CP.. 
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: doign a CP refresh won't overwrite your GQ text.. you will have to manuall clear it with the clear button
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: any idea why S+D will say it can't find a room when it's blatantly in the mapper?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: id-10t virus overwrote it
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: heh
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: such things are often subtle changes after updates to the MUD
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Hmmm, perhaps. It worked fine earlier....hasn't worked since the update now I think of it
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: yeah there is something about how rooms are displayed now that is causing rooms to have extra spaces on the end
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Strange thing is....it finds the rooms for quests just fine
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Only my CPs seem to have broken
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: That was discussed a few minutes ago...it's slightly broken since the reboot, eta for a fix is tomorrow
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Ok, thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: its antibotting room names that has been secretely introduced!
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes.. check tech board or my website for the update
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I hate it when my bot breaks. I'm gonna be in a bad mood for the rest of the day now
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: reboot made a slight formatting change...
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Must have been a zero-day vuln.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: think of it as a nice reminder of how you used to do it..
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: Winkle we love your work.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Well actually, I just used to not bother =D
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle bows deeply.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: but yeah, thx, nice script
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: I love you Winklex2. Plz have my babbies.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ok waffles! :D
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ok.. going home.. feeding baby.. putting her to bed.. then plugin fix..
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: your priorities are off, wink
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Yeah.. stupid babies! *grumble*
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Piffaron grins evilly at WinkleWinkle.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: If I had a baby I'd train it quest, obv
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: baby botting? :)
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Not botting, just unprovabale char sharing =D
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: character sharing is mostly not-unprovable.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Oh right.......so they'd figure out if my baby was questing for me then?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: they would notice an increase in skill level
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: All it needs to do is click go then ak
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: all they would need is a known pattern to look for, plus a few other behavioral items that help establish the Gregor baseline.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: What if I just behaved exactly like my baby at all times?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: postnatal abortion would happen
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: well, then you have a solution my friend:)
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: This is so awesome. I'm definitely gonna have a baby now.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Piffaron hands you a beer, it will help.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Anyone know if there are issues ww/ zmud and windows 7 64bit? A long time ago I was unable to get it working. 
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: And came across a couple posts saying zmud wasn't supported.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: lol people still use zmud?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: But then I could have sworn Danj told me it was.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: zmud is installable on a flash drive, cmud isn't.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: ah.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: zmud works for me in win7, it just doesn't scroll or update the screen properly
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Waffles cringes away from Starling in mortal terror.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: That sounds terrible.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's very annoying
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Zmud runs just fine under win7/64 bit under XP support.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: zmud 7.21 has exactly the same encryption wrapper as CMud.  If ZMud can be put on a flash drive, then CMud is equally able to.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I use cmud on my computer, I use zmud on the work computers and it's clunky as hell.  Oddly, zmud works 100% fine on my computer as well.  It seems to be highly dependent on the machine running it.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Well, if you can tell me how to put cmud on a flash drive, please.  Everyone insists it isn't possible.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: You just need the special id-10t app and it'll upload onto flash drive just fine
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: just move a copy of the folder with Cmud onto a flash and it runs.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it would be the same way as with ZMud.  As I said, both apps use EXACTLY the same encryption wrapper (down to the same exact version, even).
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It was explained to me as being an issue with the registry
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Starling your flash drive has a PEBKAC virus
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Can you install mush client on a flash drive?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Just copy the folder over?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: hes
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i have a laptop that randomly disconnects from the internet, my network stops showing in the available networks, but other computers stay connected...any ideas?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: its the wifi adapter 
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm assuming the others are wifi too
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flip Tech: yep, adapter
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yes, wink
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: by process of elimination
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: have you set it to maximum performance, not battery saving?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i don't think so...where would i set that?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: are you bumping the wifi switch that is on many laptops that physically shuts off the wifi connection?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: I normally set the dbm tx power to 100 to 150
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no, wyza
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: anyone know how to set the good mobs to golden, rather than green
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: is that a colorset option, or do you have a plugin doing it?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so, where do you set the dbm tx power? no clue what that is :P
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: colorset option
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there's no colorset option for auras...
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you mean the auras, pretty sure there's no colorset option for that
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: does all yellow text show up in green? maybe you remapped the color client-side?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: but they come up green
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If it's not showing up as yellowish, then it's your client's doing.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: That is a personal problem, unfortunately.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Either via a plugin, or that's the color that your client has been told/designed to display that color in.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: using a brand new macbook
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: By "client", we mean what you use to connect to Aardwolf.
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: yep, using the program provided by Aard, must client
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Type 'colorset colors'.  Does the yellow line look yellow or green?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: In case anyone hasn't seen it, www.landoflisp.com -- this is a really, really excellently-done website (and book).
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Atticus Tech: anyone know of a plugin for mush that shows look in a miniwindow at all times?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, nobody's ever been interested in it, as far as I know
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noyz Tech: is there a mushclient plugin for inv that is not experimental?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's eqdb
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noyz Tech: thanks abelinc ill try it out
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Abe - with your abemap.tf script, have you noticed a problem when a " is in the map, like in the northern section of Empyrean?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, my local copy fixed that
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Ooo...how?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: will upload after this quest...just a replace() to escape the "
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I tried escaping with a \, but it didn't work...:-P
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...hrm.  I might have forgotten to double the \, though...hmm...
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, it's uploaded now...gotta replace "\"" with "\\\"" for it to work ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noyz Tech: just installed the whole bast packet at once and now i have all the plug ins but my main window is missing all but my own txt entries? do i need to reinstall the the plug-ins one by one?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't do that
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only install what you want...and you don't want it all, since some of the plugins are different ways to do the same thing
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noyz Tech: yeah i realize that now, so just disable all bast plugins and enable them one by one as i need?
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try typing "plugins reload areaDB"
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that should fix your main display
T3/r6/2012-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noyz Tech: oh man... is there anyway return to the defult plugin configuration? when i enable the bast plugins one at a time no new miniwindows are showing up
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: lol .. my gui was lsiting the gqs in the window the whole time.. but jsut in black on black color!
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Heh, sounds like an ez fix :p Lucky you figured it out ^^
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah but only afer i re-wrote the whole thing!
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: ouch ><
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: need a couple of testers to test new version of S&D
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: me me!
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Did you rewrite all 3 scripts from the triple pack or just SD?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: all have been heavily refactored
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it will be a highly recommended upgrade
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: nice
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Nice, I can test if you dont have anyone better. Ima bit higher than my normal CP range though, so not sure how fast I can test.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: very importatnly a lot fewer db lock crashes
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: available now? 
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: lookign for testers now
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: will post link publicly in the morning
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so far testers have said it's working
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i apprecaite it guys :)
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: thanks for the script btw, though i only use it for xrt, it's real useful
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well i'm glad you enjoy it.. it's meant ot be about user experience adn helping VI players.. not about botting.. so i like good feedback
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: I like xrt too.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: one note "xm a" and "xm area" are now "xm" and "xma" respectively
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh! and kingsholm will work too!
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ok.. baby wakes in 6 hours.. gotta get soem sleep.. if it goes fatal for anyone copy ALL the error text .. 
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'll get it off you in the morning
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: last call for testers
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I thought for a second you said Ok baby....
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth looks at WinkleWinkle with an innocent face and says: 'Listen baby - WASNTME!'.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: heheh
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ok  ni night!
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: night
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm, anyone tried using dgteam firmware for netgear routers?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's a custom firmware, but after falshing it i can't seem too access the web gui
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: flashing, to*
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: how do i play mud on IPAD?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: step 1 put sand on ipad, step 2 add water...
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: Guys who has problem with S&D not working, send me a tell and i will give you a link to a working version
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: lol virus.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: nope it's a new version , winkle linked to me
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: dont act like a retard :P
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: definately sounds like a virus
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: made in russia
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Covenant comforts Incredible Iceman.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: wait then for the official release on the site , n00bs :)
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: What you have is the beta.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: To check if it works.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Winklewinkle will make an official real release tomorrow.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: but it still works
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Sorry comrade, but your dirty tricks won't work here. I saw a 60 minutes on your escapades.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: if it's a 'humour' i cant get it
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: and u know nothing about comrades , lol :)
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: That's why I wouldn't friend you.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Waffles snickers softly.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: i dont care about it
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: u r kinda an arrogant person :)
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: I'm arrogant because you asked me to be my friend everyday for 7 days and I said no?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Ok :/
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: I never take a "NO" answer
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: Used to get what i want :P
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: That's really your business, and not for Tech channel ;)
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Make your demands somewhere else.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: Yeah Truri , you are right :)
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: i started the talk with tech business :P dunno bout Waffles.. :)
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Well, banter is OK, but not too much.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noyz Tech: why is my .mcl file not writable it say access denied? i just installed the newest version of mushclient but brought over only the .db file from my older version
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: you need to put it in a folder with write access
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: so, not program files
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: also, use the aard mushclient, not the actual mushclient
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noyz Tech: alright ill revert to my previous aardclient version
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: That is exactly what I said.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: You could also finger fiendish to get the newest version of the aardclient, and install it in a direcetoy with write access.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noyz Tech: i reinstalled because the old version kept pushing all my windows to the right side of the screen with each reload
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: I'll try this again since you appear to not be reading anything I"m writing. Step 1) Finger Fiendish and download the newest version of Aardclient. Step 2) Unpack it to a folder with write access. Step 3) follow the directions at http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm to important oyur previous setting.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you are running Vista or 7, you *might* need to set Mushclient to run as administrator, depending on your installation location
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If it is in the Windows partition, that is
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: right click the .exe, and check the 'run as administrator' box
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: Are exits always in the same order?  For example.. any time North is an available exit, it will show up first in the Exits list?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: believe so
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Unless it is hidden, yes
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: unless it is oppsite day
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: haha ok, thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gwynyfar chuckles at KinPYtterP Moolb's joke.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: are all the plugins as straight forward as each other to instal ? 
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: and are there any I should aviod ? 
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: is there a way to change S&D to use backstab instead of Kill (mobname)
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: like when i type ak
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: alias k bs
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: alias k mudside
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: hollup..
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth peers around himself intently.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: the help alias thing?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: mud alias "alias k bs"
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: alrighty let me try it.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: love you all, thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: This is not a processor intensive game right?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: any crap computer could run this.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: pretty much.. some mapper functionality might take some grunt
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: mush is actually quite heavy with plugins etc
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: anyone know why S&D isnt working?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: 2 extra spaces
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: It got broken in the last upgrade, yesterday.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: it's not recognizing any of my rooms
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: hrm, would that affect my download?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: wink's coming out with a new version, or you can tweak the coding (change where it says 28, to 30)
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: i didnt upgrade
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: just wait a while and winklewinkle will fix it
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: okay
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I meant the mud upgrade, the reboot yesterday
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I'm very low tech and I was able to fix it with the 28/30 fix
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: what is the difference after the yesterday reboot?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Mob names were changed from 28 characters to 30 or something, broke winkle's search and destroy plugin
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Where do I need to change the 28 to 30? I tried in winklewinkle_search_destroy_2_6 and it's still not working
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Lytebane Do you have new version?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: S&D UPDATE AVAILABLE : finger my www address for web site
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: Woot!
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: do we need to download the triple pack or just s&d?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you installed triple download triple
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: some parts have been completely re-written
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: winkle - how does your addon deal with new areas?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: the same way the mapper does?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it uses fiendish's mapper..
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: IE you have to go explore them
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: how does it know how to get to a new area the first time?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: if it can't find it it recalls, and uses runto
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: basically the same as my home-made aliases then. fair enough
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: nothign is hard-coded
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: all routes are dynamically calculated from teh room you are in each time
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: nods. basically the same as mine, but probably more complex and bug-proof
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: hmm
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: just installed the updates, went into plugins and reinstalled them, then when i do xrt doh it does:
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: x-runto (nomap_Disciples of Hassan Clan Hall_doh) Disciples of Hassan Clan Hall in Disciples of Hassan Clan Hall xmapper move nomap_Disciples of Hassan Clan Hall_doh Unknown command. Please check the helpfiles.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I know the restart time is changed when aard reboots on purpose, but does it do so for a crash or for ice ages too?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: restart time is never changed...it's the time the MUD booted...all of those circumstances are the MUD booting (even ice ages are the MUD booting from scratch)
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spacey Tech: Any time somebody speaks my text is interrupted and I have to start typing again, using PuTTY
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: its actually not, it's just displayed that way
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't hve to start typing again, you just lost your place...all your text is still tere
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you use putty to connect to a server that has a client which supports a "visual mode", that will prevent that from happening (heh, years ago I ran a MUD that did an in-mud visual mode)
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I forget the answer now, but does Aard's realtime factor in daylight savings?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spacey Tech: [160/160hp 150/150mn 500/500mv 0qt 1000tnl] > [160/160hp 150/150mn 500/500mv 0qt 1000tnl] > n
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spacey Tech: Lynxx eats a goodberry.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard observes daylight savings time, yes
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: changing the time for daylight savings dos not affect the countdown-timers
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's cuz they're not times, they're timers
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spacey Tech: tech
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 10 mins is 10 mins regardless of timezones
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: its a lie abe!
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: wasn't what I asked.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I answered what you asked
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: so when I type REALTIME, the system time isn't actually the time, just a time calculation between now and whatever last triggered the calculation?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the system time is the system time
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Schneit sings, 'My beloved <(=Watchix=)> are the best...Much more H0TT than all the rest!'
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's what you'd get if you typed "date" on the server itself
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Hanslanda - the first response that Abe gave was the answer to your question.  The timers discussion came as a result of Zade's comment.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Pedwiddle.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ah, so he did.  I really wish I had enough energy or time to get a second/better job.  I need a new monitor very badly and my savings is being eaten up too significantly by more important costs...
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the "factor in" by Hanslanda was a misdirection then - a simpler q&A is ".. Aard's realtime adhere to rl including daylight savings"
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: as soon as "factor in" was used, that suggested and queried whether events are based on "times" and or "timers"
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to you...just to you.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's been about 5 minutes since I last checked, and only the system time line changed.  If the restart time is a timer as opposed to a distinct time event (restart = 10:20:48, meaning 10 hours, 20 minutes, 48 seconds ago versus 10:20:48am), it's only updating like rankings.  Pretty sure it's not a timer.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: the restarted on, was when the mud was booted
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course it's not a timer...it's the time the MUD process started...
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: abe has said this
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Um.  The time the mud was restarted isn't going to change until it's restarted.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the restart time is based on a recorded fact, not on a timer
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...do they still sell common sense in Aylor? :-P
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, it was removed for lack of use
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: ^
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: rofl
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thats halarious
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: a lot of items you think are there really aren't, it's just that nobody's ever bothered to try for them in a REALLY long while and they haven't been purged yet.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: and Hanslanda is also saying that some items are not there but not yet purged
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: speaking of which, there's no maintenance of the DST relationship between restart/system, right?  Like, when a restart happens prior to DST occurring, then DST happens, the amount of time between restart and system will be off by 1 until the next restart?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is...times are kept in absolutes
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...the time the mud was restarted will not change.  The system time will change appropriately.  So yes, they will be one hour different from before.  However, it's not like there's a relationship between them...
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: the time isn't probably even stored as EST, its probably stored as GMT +0, so its just being rendered as est
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at None the Wyza.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although it should technically be stored as UTC rather than GMT ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's not important.  I was exploring ways to calculate three moons out to 1950 ticks without having to evaluate every last one of them.  Since apparently the moon cycle's start point is an 8-tick conjunction, it seemed like a nice way to quickly look up information about a specific tick in the future.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: zulu
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GMT/zulu are timezones...UTC is a reference :P
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle is taking callers...
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: When will this swelling go down?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: mt
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: stop touching it and it will
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: S&D isn't matching rooms that clearly exist in my mapper when I do hunt trick, help?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: board tech;note from winklewinkle
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: is it the latest update ?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: nope! Didn't realize there was an update
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: grabbing it now
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: I guess I'll update Bast's while I'm at it to
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: If there is closed captioning / subtitles option in a tvs on screen menu, then does that tv simply not support them?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: is not*
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: closed captioning is usually a remote button option
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the language selection for closed captioning is usually a menu option
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: It just so happens that this crappy universal remote doesn't have a CC button though, and the menu button doesn't show any cc option.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all TVs sold in the US for the past decade or two are required to support CC
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: thats what i thought abelinc
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: closed captioning is also a menu selection
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: but if there is no cc button on the remote, and the menu button doesn't show any CC option, what can i do?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: closed captioning rocks
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: look at the language selection
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I like the TVs that auto-CC on mute
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: there is no language selection in the menu
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: according to FCC, starting in july '93, TVs 13"+ had to have decoder built-in
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: well i take that back, i can select my language, but there is no cc option in the language menu
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: main language selection is just for the menu
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try just muting the sound
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: tried that:)
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: nods thats what i am thinking too.  My original question still persists though.. my tv's menu sections are Picture, Audio, Setup and Option -- none of which have a cc/subtitle option
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: check when the tv was manufactured - may be older than 10 years
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: Nah I got it new when i went to college 5 years ago
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: in which country
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Just because a TV is required to support CC, doesn't mean they are required to put the option on the menu, or even the remote.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: USA
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: if they aren't required to put it in the menu, or the remote, how the hell are you suppose to access it?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, vakieh...they must include SOME way to activate it...
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: I suppose i have to get a remote with a specific CC button
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Code via ir - I've seen some with special "Hearing Impaired" remotes you buy seperately
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, it must ship fully capable
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: so, a tv that supports CC but does not support access - unlikely
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my viewsonic has it both in the menu and on the remote...kalsch, have you checked the manual for your TV model online?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: ok let me ask same question in a different manner... Assuming all tvs have to support CC, would it *always* be in the menu options?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I've personally sold tv's with this system - granted it's in Au, but we don't warrant special treatment, we get the same as US stock (in PAL)
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: is the remote the original that came with the tv
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, in PAL means not the same as US ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: checking manufacturer now
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: no this is a crappy universal remote
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: and i dont believe the tv came wiht a remote
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: its a cheap pos too
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: but damnit if i don't want cc on it...
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is there a menu button on the front of the TV?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: nope
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: channel up/down, vol up/down
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: any buttons on the back of the tv
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, you mentioned you got it for college...what size is it?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: none on the back, size is 13-14 inches diagnol
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: from my quick measuring tape measurement
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: this is the tv:  http://www.abt.com/product/18543/Toshiba-14AF45.html
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, since the FCC's mandate for CC was only for 13" & bigger, maybe they called it a 12" to escape?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: or rather it looks just like it and it has the same serial #
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: urgh.. trying to copy a word doc to a kindle.. anyone done this?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krimp Tech: have you tried amazons service that converts files for use on kindle
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there was a capt/text button on the orig remote, if that's your model
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: If it came with a remote originally (and i cant remember) i don't have it:P
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've got my grnadmother's kindle.. black and white with the buttons.. i tried doign it via amazon.. but it wanted to use whispersync?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: but it sounds like I have to get a remote with a CC button on it.  I can't just go to the tv menu...:P
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Are you trying to put a Word Doc into your Kindle?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well i'm preparing to publish a book on kindle and i want to see how it might look
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And this, people, is why we buy iPad or Android. Kindle is a locked-in pos
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well i'll be publishing it on all formats
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: I love my Kindle :p 
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: ME TOO!
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Kindle app on iPad/Android is better :-P
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: are you indpeendent publishing?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Don't compare it with iPad cause Kindle is an e-reader.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So is a pad...
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: iPad uses e-ink?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: No.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: E-ink is a rort
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Rofl.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: why can't amazon make better hardware than barnes and noble?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: it's kidn of pathetic
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Point is, Kindles are made specifically as a reading device. :p Don't compare it with iPad, compare it with Nooks or other devices.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: well kindle fire is a step in the right direction
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I bought my iPad for e-reading. I can compare it with whatever I wish. Also, Kindle Touch.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, kalsch, the manual doesn't show anything in the menu for CC, just the remote button...might want to see if there's anything in the univ. remote's manual about turning on extra features
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: nook tab better than fire, espesc with new 199 px
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: Nods Abelinc, I shall do that.  Thanks for investigating
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Good luck with eye strain :p
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but have fun getting locked into amazon prime at 80 / yr with the fire
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: manual can be found here, gotta click user manual tab: http://preview.tinyurl.com/7gm7ysb
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: amazon prime = free shipping which pays for itself and instant streaming (albeit bad selection atm)
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Even actual books cause eyestrain - the rort of e-ink is that it says it alleviates it, when it really doesn't...
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it pays for itself if you'd be buying wood books anyway, that is
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: q r
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Well, that's you. :) 
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kalsch seems to think you have the right idea.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: well its free shipping on anything
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No, that's optometry...
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: (from amazon)
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: can't you change the font size of the e-ink display?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we have a large physical and virtual library, but some people don't ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup bertilak
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: so then it could reduce eye strain if you utilized that
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: You can change it
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can do that on backlight too
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, e-ink is good for eye strain...it's an easy read
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's less straining than the color devices, if books are the main use
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Schneit seems to think you have the right idea.
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but of course the gaming on the e-ink devices suck }:>
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: o.o
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: ga...ming?
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: yeah I wouldn't expect it would have that good of a refresh rate
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and can't MUD from any of those that I know of, like you can from the color ones :-)
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: LOL!
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all comes down to personal uses...best tool for me isn't best tool for you
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: I agree
T3/r6/2012-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: sorry was using Calibre.. my wife will be publishing her novel.. e will be doing it ourselves
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alestorm Tech: How do I hack a windows 7 pc to overide the password?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: ctl+alt+del
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: cheat codes!
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akhenaton Tech: there is a small program named like pwd_chng, burn it and boot with it
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akhenaton Tech: that will remove old pass and you have to set new one
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akhenaton Tech: super secure win7!
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alestorm Tech: How to overide a password in windows xp?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: override?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gilduran Tech: are you trying to bypass the password?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i would be guessing it's a saved password he wants changed but...
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: didnt you ask this same thing a couple months ago?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: I'm a bit leery of helping him tbh. Very few reasons...
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: is anyone using Bast's version of PotionQuaffer? I cannot get it to recognise my potions
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: man, I could swear my HD has bonded with my HD enclosure somehow
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: any tips on getting it out without destroying everything?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: let it cool
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: good idea, thx
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohinder Tech: anyone uses BAST plugins ?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<3 DJ Matty Tech: Odd question but: how much bandwidth does being connected to Aard use?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sufficiently small that we all used to mud on a dialup modem
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<3 DJ Matty Tech: I would imagine very little, but I am curious as to its impact on other things.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akhenaton Tech: using mccp will lower it
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a full day's mudding might take 2Mb tops
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Since I've been connected, my bandwidth usage is equivalent to downloading a picture.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<3 DJ Matty Tech: Ah yes, good point. I was actually thinking about this the other day: I started mudding because of dial-up, but what prompts young people to start mudding these days?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: less idiots that WOW
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<3 DJ Matty Tech: Haha! 
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: I can do it at work, and while I watch movies/tv
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Always check the cables, that faster than light result might have been caused by a loose cable: http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2012/02/faster-than-light-neutrino-result-apparently-a-mistake-due-to-loose-cable.ars
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there a descent enchanter script out there? - not bot enchanter - but standard display gains enchanter
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: TYPO Taboo blesses with you 4 free Aardwolf lottery tickets.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeila Tech: guys I got a viual glitch. Looks like the text width is set to vpoalue, bigger than my phone screen width, and then the extra text not fitting into one row just gets transferred to the next row, but just that text only. the text supposed to start there is also transferred to another new row. maybe i can make the font smaller to avoid this?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeila Tech: value*
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krimp Tech: if you're using the android blowtorch client, yes, just go into the options
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeila Tech: wow, this client got options? :)
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeila Tech: I mean how do I access options?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: wtb enchanter script
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unreal Tech: im on phone mud, can i toggle off map so it doesnt shoe when i move into a room?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unreal Tech: show*
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what programs do vi players use to play by voice?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have a sample plugin which will pop up an alert box in aardmush
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I'd like to get gmcp data from channels here in aard but I have no idea on how to do that. Where's a nice place to start reading/learning?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your client's manual
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: There's a fairly informative wiki post, as well..
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: in the aardwiki? gonna check that also
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the wiki entry tells how the data is structured, but how to access it in your client depends on what client you're using
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want the "Client Protocols 
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I'm using aardmush Abe.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err you want the "Client Protocols" link on the left
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I'll see how far I can get with the wiki and the manual
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what are you trying to do with channel gmcp data?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: make a better tell trigger than I have right now
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'd be pretty easy to do...just make sure you spam-proof it
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it's easy once I know how to grab the gmcp data.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're not grabbing the gmcp data
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're accessing the gmcp data which has already been grabbed
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ok you got me there Abe. You're right. My bad
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, I could've sworn we had updated the wiki page when the extra comm fields came in...guess I'm gonna edit it quick so it's actually useful for your intended purpose :P
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a gmcp field "player"...makes things like that much nicer
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: thanks Abe.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, you're looking for onpluginbroadcast, check to see if the plugin is the gmcp one...then if comm.channel.chan = tell, then if comm.channel.player = someone you've autoreplied already, do nothing...else autoreply
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and then once you've written it as aplugin .. post a link to it on tech board!
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I get the picture. I think I can pull this off. Thanks again for all the help.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antistes Tech: erm, how do i toggle displaying timestamps for mushclient? i forget now
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antistes Tech: that works for the comm window, but not the main window abe
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you're looking to disable the "balloon" info?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> output...first checkbox
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antistes Tech: that's what i thought it was... hm.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: anyone know a good tool to access the aardwolf database that the mapper tables are stored in?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is the format sqlite?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: no idea
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Yes, they are
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if so, there's a very nice freebie called SQLite Expert Personal Edition that seems on par with commercial products like one would find in MS Office and similar.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's at least far better than the other freebie offerings
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i'll check it out
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: Any of you guys download the new S&D plugin?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: None the Wyza nods.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i need to, mine
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: I am getting an error message about needing a newer version of mushclient
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i need to, mine's broken.  :p
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: what version of mush are you on?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: 4.75
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: says I need 4.76
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can probably just edit the xml file for the plugin and change its min version
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: Hrm okay I will give that a try, thank you =D
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: anyone know how to make the macbook air screen and the external monitor display the same info?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: should be in settings - display - mirror
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: Awesome, that was a simple fix haha thank you
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: anybody know of a mobile phone company that sells celular phones that do nothing else but be telephones?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: plenty
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: all of them
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: i guess apple doesn't
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: jitterbug
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: jitterbug, I guess
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: trac phone
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: nokia, samsung, motorala all basic phones
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: mine is a calculator and an alarm clock as well as a phone, does that still count
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: yea, they may support sms messaging
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: well, as long as it's nothing more than that, that's feasible
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: tech jitterbug druzil
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: druzil, you want a burner prepaid phone so they can't follow you
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: You're Canadian right?  Check out mobilicity if you're in a big city
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: just seems that every single one i see for sale within 100 sq miles of me has a operating system, a hundred thousand apps, an app store, a camera for 25 cents a picture
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: what are they trying to do to people who want to use just the pone?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: But to be honest, you live in a strange world compared to other people.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: You can choose not to use those features.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: upsell them, so they get more money
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Nothing is requiring you to take any of them except a voice plan.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: there are also plenty of phones that don't have any of those features
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: yeah, but you still gotta dig through them to find the feature you're lookin for, i seen it on all of them
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: Except that the fancy phone itself is more expensive
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: usually, some of them you can still type in a number and hit send and that's the end of it
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: We just mentioned a few brands that do.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dig through them? the feature you want is the phone...you just start dialing
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: no its not fottie
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i'll remember mobicity next time i'm in a city
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: mobicity doesn't carry jitterbug phones.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: they have a lot of lowtech phones
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Which is basically what we told you, you were looking for.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Sounds like Druzil will be scared of even the entry level phones.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: I have a mobilicity phone that is as lowtech as exists any more
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: it's just a phone
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: in 1995 they sold phones that had nothing but a screen for the number you're dialing, with a toggle for the volume maybe, and that's it
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trisha shows Druzil where the morse code keys are at.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: http://www.thepeoplehistory.com/images/mp2.jpg ??
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: yeah, we had one, it weight about a pound...
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: weighed.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: now there's submenu's of options within every option, like simple phone's had a button to scroll through calls you missed and you hit 1 of a few keys to redial or delete
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: now you have to scroll through the submenu's to get to that feature
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: You should look up some luddite communities.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: bag phones beat them all, still
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Probably fit in well there.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, I've never had a phone I needed to scroll through submenus to get recent calls to redial
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: me neither
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: it's bad for mental health, all that confusion
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim laughs out loud.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: that's my opinion on it, i think the corporate mindmachines are overwhelming the world with their own stupidity
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: phone's are just an example, it's good to know you can find other than a satellite phone that's simple
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: My satelite phone is pretty simple, dial a number and it rings.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: and it's free from cell phone towers.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: but it does cost a bit more then the cell services but at least if I am in the boonies I can make a call.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: yeah those are expensive, usually only used by government projects
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Actually Druzil my Sate phone is comparable to tower phones, only about 25 dollars more.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terraphin Tech: does blowtorch do mccp?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: And I am not locked into a carrier.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: terraphin, yes, blowtorch supports mccp
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terraphin Tech: is it automatic?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Terraphin Tech: thank you
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can type "compress" to see if the MUD thinks you're using mccp :-)
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: whats the force send command for gmcp?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Will there be problem if I backup my MUSH folder in Dropbox?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: does anyone know how to get one of the windows of the mush client that is off the side of my screen
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which windows?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: the mapping window
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: it disappeared
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: any place else it can be found?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I don't know how to reset that beside deleting the state file from the worlds/plugins/state folder
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Mapper show
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You type mapper show to get to the mapper to show again.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: didn't show
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Hrmm....
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: nothing
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Do you have it hidden under another window?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: got it it was under another window
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Get rid of a blessing? What do you mean, Demon?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: mischan
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: does anyone here use Windows Home Server?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SchoolGirl Nykaedryn Tech: list
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SchoolGirl Nykaedryn Tech: Oops.
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Anyone know of a good free IPHONE SSH terminal App?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: can you dock miniwindows in mush?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Define dock?  You can lock them in place with Fiendishs
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: like how zmud/cmud windows dock
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i don't like them floating, it looks messy
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you align them properly I find it's pretty neat
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oh so if you resize the window it'll stay in the same position?
T3/r6/2012-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, it resizes the windows around it
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: they're all...kinda like fit into a grid
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hades
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oops
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: is that a no then?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone know a trustworthy form filler for FF?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I was on the ubuntu site and saw there is an option to install it on windows. Anyone know if there are any advantages/disadvantages to this method as opposed to using a VM?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Talk to Abelinc. He knows all!
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: heh, well, if abelinc deems to reply all well and good, but I'm not going to specifically hassle him with tells
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Harassing him in tells is so much fun.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: you mean wubi?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: that's right swire
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: wubi is a dual boot, so you can't use it at the same time
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: but you don't have to repartition -- I think it's very nice
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: that's weird the site specifically says this  "you can install and uninstall Ubuntu in the same way as any other Windows application. "
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: but I have found it a little less stable than a full boot
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I'm too scared of overwriting the mbr somehow to partition my HD
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: yes, you can. It installs ubuntu on a loopback filesystem -- so you just do the install
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: I don't think that it a worry to be honest
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Ok, so I install it /in/ windows, then it just boots up like it's a separate OS?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: generally, these days, though I don't dual boot, as I just use multiple machines
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: yep, that's the plan
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: wow, so I won't even need to load windows first?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Never tried to find out how that works, though.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: sounds better than a VM to me, I'll give it a try I guess
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: no, if you use wubi, you need to install from windows, but when you use it, windows is not involved
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Yeah =) I mean after it's installed
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I can just boot up linux immediately
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: Trurien, it's easy -- the boot loader just mounts the NTFS partition, then finds a file inside this, which is a virtual disk, which it then mounts and boots into linux
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Seems a lot safer than partitioning my HD and using the grub loader
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: so, it's just the same as a normal dual boot
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I've got into some serious trouble before where linux installer has overwritten the MBR and I've been unable to reinstall windows
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: it still uses grub Gregor
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: it' really is a dual boot -- the only difference is that instead of a partition, you use a file INSIDE the windows partition
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Hmm, so long as it doesn't affect my ability to run a system restore if everything goes wrong
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Nice, I'm pretty excited to give this a try actually
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: well, it does have to install a different boot loader, which is somewhat risky, but I have never had it go wrong, even when I get students to do it
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: which is always a good testing ground
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: cp c
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: is any way to make a trigger catching the roomid? 
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: i want to make something like..if roomid = x then run blabla
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: OMG, freaking Outlook 2010
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: sucks doesn't it
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: how does one disable the junk e-mail folder?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: I don't WANT my freaking email filtered
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: yeah. good luck with that one. 
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we didn't get our daily reports today...did you look in the junk mail folder?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: I like my e-mail like I like my cigarettes... unfiltered and full of spam
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can turn it off...home tab, delete group, junk, options
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: top radio button is no filtering, only senders you've blocked will go to junk folder
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: pigf...ers... must be disabled by group policy - the options are greyed out
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ?Unexpectedly ran out of petrol while mowing jungle execption at line 1007
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: who wants to win 10 tp :)
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: how ?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: vbscript
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: vis basic?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: need a vbscript to read through an html document and parse a table into a csv
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: keep looking , i can't code my way outta a wet paper bag 
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: What a weird expression :P
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can't you just copy/paste it manually?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: heh
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i need to do it to 5k pages with similar tables
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: , lol ok i'll bite , wierd how ?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well i dunno about vbscript, but java has xml parsing libraries that would probably work
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Well why would you be in a wet paper bag and also why would you use coding to get out of it :D
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: just so u know , i'm weird anyway :)
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: they are log files, and i just need to parse the tables to csv
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: linux, wget/curl, and perl or awk
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: i guess getting out of a wet paper bag would be an effort free use of energy and ability , the lack of even that ability to do even that would underscoremy lack of aptitude , naturally the wet paperbag would have to be metaphoric or at least virtual?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: I figured as much, just seems weird to me. :P
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wet paper bag is a code library
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ok anyone wanna help with a perl script http://textuploader.com/?p=6&id=S8zQt
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: script works great, but i need to change F_HTML to a remote html page which is failing for me
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: perl? yech!
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: weird, I'm using mushclient and if I do imm-h, it gets cut off... won't let me page more thana couple times
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: never seen that happen before
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what's your pagesize?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: history only goes back 100 lines...
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 3ft 6 inches
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yea, I just set pagesize to 80.. when I press enter to see the next page, it just returns my prompt
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's probably that MUSH is sending other stuff from plugins, cancelling the page
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I've never had this problem before and I don't much with mushclient settings.  weird.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: much = muck
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm, that's an interesting problem abe
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: my updated plugin might be resetting pagesize :(
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm waiting for a user with issues with it to get back to me so i can fix it for a few peopel who are having issues with my pagesize swapper
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: don't think i use any plug ins... anyway if i set pagesize to 25 and do imm -h, I can press enter once, then I get about 25 more and another paging prompt, if i hit enter again it just dies and returns my game prompt
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i haven't seen superfriend fiendish in a while :(
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: and now it works fine.  maybe an imm was snooping on me.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: We can hope
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i redid my os last night...what could be causing the computer to run slow even after a fresh os install?  the computer is just barely a year old
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hardware?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What have you installed on your system... what OS, what drivers, etc?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: maybe memory, a lot of swapping
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: windows 7 i have nothing installed on it but the os right nwo i have added google chrome and mozilla
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: but like the windows update process...keeps failing
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its suppose to give an error number of why it failed
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: codes 643 but when i click for help with that error
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i'm getting nothing in the list that matches that code
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Attack Vector Tech: there is a particular malware going around that will disable the windows update feature.  it is usually associated with a anti-exe bug witch is particularly nasty.  try loging in with a different profile and run win update
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: the thing is i just reformatted my entire hdd last night
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: and the absolute first thing i did after reinstalling was windows update...how could i get malware?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lots of reason,  your LAN could also be the culprit of the malware
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if indeed it is.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: try searching at google the full windows update error
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Is anyone online who's familiar with the notes system in mapper on MUSHclient? Specifically, I have an addon (I believe part of Winkle's S&D package) that tells me room IDs for CPs when they're room-named CPs, but in area-named CPs, it only tells me "notes", which I can write through MUSHclient's mapper. I want to enable a way to prompt room IDs upon a CP check on area-named CPs, but is this even possible through MUSHclient? Say, writing individual notes for each mob as a pseudo-mob database?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Also apologies for the wall of text.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: it will show the room number for area cps *if* the mapper has the room in its database
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Not for me, at least in terms of area CPs. It only tells me "[notes]", although on rare occasions it might list the room ID of the first room of the area (I think Gauntlet is an example of this for me). It doesn't list individual room IDs for the mobs like it does for room CPs, which is what I want.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: oh, you maen the other way around
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: That isn't the first room in the area-- it's a room with the same name as an area
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: yeah i doesn't know what the room number is until you get there and it performs the hunt tric
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: which it takes care of for you
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: but it isn't a mob db, it is a room db 
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: hence the need for the hunt trick
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Understandable, and I understand at least that point, but it still necessitates using the autohunt feature of manually hunting in each room. I want to speed up my CPs by having the addon fetch individual room IDs for each mob, and report it to me through cp check like it does for room IDs.  I know Duckbat has a plugin that does this for his own needs, but I'm not sure it works with MUSHclient, and I want to know if it's possible to integrate the concept somehow into MUSHclient - either by using notes for each mob, a la Winkle's plugin, or by some other means (a mob db, for instance).
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: That way, with each room ID reported to me, I can simply use the mapper to "mapper goto *" for each room without having to use the ah/ak commands on Winkle's addons, and sort of bypass the autohunt trick on mobs that don't really need it (only one mob in an area with the name, for instance).
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Pretty much in short: I want to make what the addon does for cp c on room-based CPs, do it for area-based CPs, and I'm wondering how to make that happen.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: to answer your question lulz.. it can be done
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Like I said, I know Duckbat has one for his purposes, but whether or not it meshes well with MUSHclient and its mapper, I don't have a clue, as it uses its own mob db.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i assume it works well with duckbat's mapper...
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I'm not sure if it does solely on the fact that, at least in Duckbat's addon, he uses his own client thing that has its own map functions (ProxyMUD or whatever it's called).  Since it doesn't inherently use MUSHclient's mapper, I wasn't sure.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but it does inherently use its own mapper
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you would want your own database.. adn a way to accumulate data
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so as i said, i assume his mobdb works well with that
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Ah...so assuming his mob db works with the mapper in MUSH, then I'd probably be all set, wouldn't I? I'm trying to avoid converting my mapper to his, I think, is the main reason why I'm asking about all this.  Rather attached to MUSHclient's addons, I don't want to switch clients :p
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you don't understand what proxymud is then
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: go read about it
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: It's a proxy server of some kind, I understand that much from the wiki contained with it.  I was just under the impression that the mapper was its own sort of thing, and you couldn't use MUSH's mapper over it.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: don't see why not...
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Alright, I'll see what I can do with that then. Thanks for the help everyone :)
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: how do I put a pause in a trigger?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: #wait
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: #wait 1000 is like 1 second
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: zmud anyway
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: how about mush?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: anyone?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: are any of intel i3's or i5's quad core?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: the i5s are for sure, not sure about the i3s
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: according to the blurb, all the i5's a dual core
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: searching google for i5 quad core says your wrong
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: http:/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_i5_microprocessors
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i5s have 2 cores, 4 threads
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes, so dual core
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: intel lists them as 4 cores, 4 threads
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: and yet http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Processors+-+Desktops-_-Intel-_-19115072
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: lists some as 2, some as 4
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the question was "are any?", right?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: pretty sure all I3 are DC and so are i5
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: idk anything bout i7 well not as much
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, from erikson's list, looks like some are 2 and some are 4
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: except they overheat
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then the answer is "yes, (at least) some i5s are quad core"
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: well that is news to me... all the i3 i have ever seen are 3.0 ghz DC
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: and the i5s are DC from what I knew and have hyper threading
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: talking about 5, not 3
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: ah, well could be some quads but would be silly confusing just to call a processor one name and have different types
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Most of the Sandy Bridge i5's are quad core.  One listed there is a dual with HT.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: be like having a 6 core cpu and calling it a quad
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Man, if you think _that_'s the line for "silly confusing", you need to just stay far away from Intel's branding as a whole...
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: anyone who understands HT knows that it doesn't give you a full second core for each thread
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Speaking of silly confusing branding... check out the barter channel.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you can't say anything about that on barter, else the channel police will get you
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You groan loudly.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: english is a dynamic language that is able to evolve past the pedantic-retentive; the barter "enchanted openclan" terminology is consistent, descriptive, and reasonably concise within the intended context
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there you go, there are no quad core i5's available for socket 1156
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, we had a particular socket restriction
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: we didn't, i have
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: is there a way to configure bios settings without removing the chip ?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: removing the chip?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is it dead?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't you usually configure bios settings by going into bios setup? :P
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Well, if your important factor is 'LGA1156' not 'i5', there are Nehalem i7 quads that fit 1156.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: no.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: you can go into bios setup when the pc is on.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: can't.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: You probably don't want to be pulling out the chip while it's on either   :p
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, I'm a bit confuzzled by this line of query
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: stick your tongue on the chip!
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: if I pull out the chip. Will it lose the settings ?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: so If remove the chip. Then put it back on there'll be no changes.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rather, it would depend on which settings...most settings are on EEPROMs nowadays...
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any change which would be erased by removing the chip, would also be erased by just removing the battery and either waiting or shorting the battery terminals (or just shifting the bios reset jumper on the mobo)
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you trying to get around a bios password?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: no.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good...many modern ones of those are controlled by a special security chip, and won't be erased by any of the above (depending on which password it is)
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In regards to the original q, you CAN get into the bios while the pc is on - you just need to hot boot it and hit the bios key while it is starting up...
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and some bios features have software controls available
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: hot boot ?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: restart
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as opposed to shut down
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the computer is always in a state of being "on", so it fits the technical requirement as stated
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: and the bios key is which ?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: often f2, but it can be anything...look for the prompts
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Depends on the bios - if you keep your eyes open it will tell you
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you see "F# for setup", that's the one you want
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: my pc doesn't give that black screen.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: It just starts up.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: sometimes it is also insert or delete, just try everything :)
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: record the process and play it in slow motion, frame by frame.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: you'll probably have to make sure the camera has a high framerate.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then prompts have been turned off...google for its manual or mash keys ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: F8
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what is the goal here?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: Is to 2gigs enough to run aard for a month ?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: anyone know the command to change teh announce channel for statmonitor
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plenty
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: yeah.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: Find a way to configure settings.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: What do you mean? 2 gigs of what?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: bandwidth? 2 gigs is enough for years :P
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: data.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Wyza : look at "statmn set" and change the various *chan variables
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you are using my statmonitor that is
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what settings?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: nothing really. Just experimenting.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you probably don't want to experiment with your bios if you don't know what you're doing :P
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: if you find that system32 file, make sure he isn't fat
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and especially if you think you'd program it by removing it from the motherboard...
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: I want to see If I can increase the fan speed. :P
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you would likely do that in software, not in the bios
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Is it bad that I don't turn off my computer? o.o
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: software. What software ?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: just costs you money :)
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: I have never turned mine off in over 2 years.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i have widows, mine turns off once a week
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Blah, windows, get linux.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: How would one go about opening DMG images on Debian?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: I mean will the CPU give up or something? o.o
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: naw its cool, i dont want to type out everything i'm doing
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dmg as in macos disk utility images?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Schneit if you keep your machine cleaned of dust, you should be just fine.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Thanks Trisha. 
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: dust may cause a computer to run slower -- a slight current leakage or slight circuit shorting may cause the computer to do extra things (other than freezing or crashing)
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You sigh.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dust won't cause current leakage or circuit shorting...dust is generally a pretty good insulator...that's the danger of dust, its insulative properties...
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Zade it depends on the type of dust.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dust helps a computer overheat, which can cause a computer to run slower and fail
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: smokers computers are the worst, and most common to blow out processors
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: my S&D wont autopopulate the rooms from the mapper so i can type go #. Any specific way i can fix this without reinstalling plugin?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: if the dust has iron oxide particles within it yes, but common household dust is pretty much safe.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: vadar have you updated?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: nope
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, if you've got lots of rust in your air, you've got some other issues to worry about besides your puter ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: putting everything into drive C:, a large browser cache,  may slow down a microsoft OS on a slow computer
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I guess i'll have to.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: uninstall old one and reinstall new one?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: overwrite the files.. restart mush is easiest
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Mining nearby Abelinc.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, if there's enough of it in the air that you think your dust is conductive, you've got major issues to worry about before your computer
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Abelinc the community is working on that problem currently.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as in you may die before your computer does
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "working on the problem" isn't good enough
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's uninhabitable
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: bird dust, pet dust, pixie dust, are conductive, perhaps even cancer-stick and maryjane tar deposits, especially in humid climates
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: nay, Iron oxide particles are too big for lungs.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, no
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: not sure what small dead moths and spiderwebs do inside a computer
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it can fit down your windpipe, it's not too big to damage lungs
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Actually, if it _can't_ fit down your windpipe, it's good'n capable of damaging lungs too.  It just takes more pressure to get it to 'em   :p
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in his presence.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: and if the computer is in the kitchen where there is a lot of cooking and frying, conductive airborne moisture oil and grease deposits
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: just remember one thing of the world markets, it's either grown or it's mined.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: and oil is mined
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: what about airborne particulates from coughing and sneezing
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: that's a condition of living Zade.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: keyboards are filthy dirty -- some of that airborne dirt that affects keyboards may be fan sucked into the inside of the computer
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: not to mention all the sticky liquids that go in there.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: how many times have you dropped soda in there??
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quite true, zade :-)
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: aerosal sprays etc
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (who ever thought you'd see me type that!)
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: actually it depends on how many fans you have within in the housing of said computer.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: OPEN the computer up completely?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: aerosol
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: I have 5 fans in mine.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: and dust filters on each.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: are you filtering the incoming or outgoing air
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: incoming Zade
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: I thought about the water cooling things I looked at on the cpu, but I am not a gamer.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: and the ammonia cooling options also.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: a filtered positive pressure inside the computer is okay.  old computers seem to use an unfiltered negative pressure inside the computer
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: actually the Ammonia options is ten times better then water cooling.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: well only 8.6
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Unlikely in non-industrial settings.  Ammonia is too interesting a chemical.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: well it pulls in heat like a funnel.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: nitrates :))))))))))))
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: It also reacts with just about everything.  Cooling systems capable of dissolving the computer get a few demerits.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: but if I was to build a supreb game system, yes I would use Ammonia cooling.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i wouldn't
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'd just build it without being a retard
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: And the specific heat of ammonia is only a little higher than water anyway.  Not at all worth the massive added trouble of dealing with it.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Erikson explain?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: use air cooling and just design and build accordingly
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: LMGTFY.  Ammonia is around 4.8 kH/kg*K.  Water's about 4.2.  That's a pretty small margin.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: s/kH/kJ/
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: high enough for 50 degrees cooler
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Sorry, try basic thermodynamics again.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you have something that needs to be 50 degrees cooler, you're probably doing it wrong
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: And you're not dealing with 50 degree margins no matter what in these cases.  If water cooling gets you 50 degrees below air cooling, your air cooling system is a hair dryer.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I don't suppose there are any freeware Mac OS X emulators for Linux, or VMs available?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Erikson what is the freezing temp of Ammonia?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: truri, you can mount an uncompressed .dmg natively
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Completely irrelevant, unless you're doing phase-change cooling, which is a different subject entirely.  And ammonia's a bad choice of refrigerant in that case anyway, for the above mentioned "absurdly reactive" reason.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: use liquid nitrogen
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: so should just use freon then?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mount -t hfs -o loop imagefile.dmg /path/to/mount
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: And that moves you solidly into the "overclocking stunt" category, not "sooper gaming".
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Already did that, Abelinc. Uncompressed it with dmg2img as well.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didn't work?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or now you're trying to run an executable from the dmg?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: But I figure actually running Atlantis would be easier than trying to figure out its Perl scripting.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Considering I only wanted to make a one-line trigger.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Is there a plugin that makes note reading easier? o.o
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What's hard about it?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what do you mean by easier?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: there should be.. but not one i know of
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You can subscribe to my service - for 30 tps a month I'll send weekly summaries of the major topics discussed on the boards.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: type note, read, type note, read...
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ha! i'll do it fro free now 
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Hahaha!
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: winkle, whats the command to go to the next room in the set?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: person 1: "I thought of this" person 2: "You are an idiot and ou are ugly too"
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: next?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: its not working? oi
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i type next, it says that's not a command
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it's now "nx"
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ahh i see,
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: like it needed to be any shorter lol
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: because of kindgsholm "next" cexit
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: oooh nvm
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thats what i get for talking crap lol
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: anyone around for a mush question?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: nope
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: o.o
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: 231 people using it right now
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: do you happen to know why I am getting a time stamp on every line of my main window?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: how do u know that leinei??
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: 'client'
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: cool, thanks :)
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: main window or the chat window, Abel?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: main window
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: right click ont eh comm window maybe?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I don't know of any client option to do that.  Might you have a plugin that's doing it?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: ok So looks like there is a path in the mcl that points for all plugins. Any one know what line to change to change the default path for plugins?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: file-global preferences-plugins-plugins directory
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Looks like MUSH comes shipped with a timestamps plugin.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That might be what's causing your timestamps
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: ah sweet
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: thanks leinei i did install all the plugins so
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It should be in your plugins list (file->plugins) if it's on, though.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: I'm turning an old ibm thinkpad into a pure mud machine using puppy linux. Working out the details
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: why would updating my video card drivers cause a bsod?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: vale whats the error message
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: the top 2 lines of your BSOD should tell us what the errors mean
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i'll write it down next time
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: but it said something about windows shutting down to prevent damage to my computer
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i reinstalled os to stop this bsod stuff
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: and that didn't do anything to help
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you have a bad driver, consider installing a lower version of the driver
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elena Tech: It might be bad hardware too.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: think the hardware is more likely :(
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: he specifically said BSOD when updating drivers
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Never assume the hardware! since it's expensive lol
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: yeah but i doubt amd would leave bad drivers up for months
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you would be surprised that they keep most of the drivers up there.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: that driver might be good for some cards in most cases
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: hmm ok how would i go about finding a lower version?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: or should i just not update at all?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: as a rule of the thumb when dealing with drivers.  "If it ain't broke, don't fixit"
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: unless you specifically want a feature of your video card.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Can probably just go to device manager, right click on the video card, go to properties, drives, and hit rollback driver
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Yup.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: apparently i'm not the only one who has this issue
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: vale: most probably so. its the issue between that driver and hardware
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Any way to put Kindle books on an iPhone? Say, I got a copy of a book elsewhere, not from Amazon.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<3 DJ Matty Tech: Yeah, there's a kindle app for iPhone.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: There's a kindle app for the iPhone.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: pretty sure he means its not a legit copy :)
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Yeah :p
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: What format is it?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: i'd hit google up 
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<3 DJ Matty Tech: I wouldn't bother with Kindle formats. Best e-reader formats are epub or pdf imo.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: kindle format is very vague.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Let's say PRC format.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: and no - best e-reader is probably mobi.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Kindle supports mobi book.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Was just wondering how you put it on an iPhone. o.o On my Kindle, I can just copy and paste inside.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: get stanza
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: lets you read epub format - all u need to do is use callibre which is free to convert mobi to epub
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Thank you, just googled it, will try it.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: It auto-detects epub books?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: where is that Kindle book data stored -- in the iphone, or at the iphone company, or only at Kindle
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: nothing about auto detecting - it can read the format. 
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: and I don't understand your question Zade - kindle book data is downloaded from amazon servers to your kindle.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: if you have the kindle app you can also download it to your phone
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshmun Tech: looking for a link or help on creating the simplest kind of mushclient alias variable.. any leads aside from the manual and the intro stuff you find with google?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: epub is pdb right?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshmun Tech: lost me
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Epub is not pdf, epub is epub
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: epub is epub pdb is pdb 
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: How do you backup mush files in Dropbox? Copy whole folder?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: That's what I do, usually zip it first.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: that's how I do it
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: You do it every now and then? Copy-paste folder?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: and it'll update file tht has changed? Like mapper db?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: found it.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshmun Tech: my 'help' doesnt launch in mushclient, so excuse the simple question - how can I replace 'listen' with 'li' using the * or whatever it is?
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: you could do that with a mud side alias
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: alias listen li
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Belexus Tech: if you want to use a client alias, just put li * up top, and listen %1 down below.
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshmun Tech: already done, but you can only make 60 of these
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eshmun Tech: ahh, ty much :)
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Belexus Tech: %1 refers to the first *, %2 the second, etc (simplification, but should suit your needs)
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: so my auto mapping thing periodically corrupts the maps, so that the fast walking with mouse click gives errors and i have to reinstall the client to get it to work again.  Im using the mushclient from this muds website
T3/r6/2012-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sounds like your database is corrupted.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: is there a way to set a window in windows where it stays on top?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: cp check
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: fail
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: How do you test triggers again?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: found it
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Question on regex.  How would I make a match on ex(its).  With the ex required and anything the "i", "t", or "s" optional?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Answer from my question earlier was: ^ex(its)?(i)?(it)?$ if anyone cares :)
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I do regex sometimes I guess.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rau Tech: ^ex(its|it|i)?$ is slightly shorter
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Depends on the client.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Regex should be implemented the same in each though shouldn't it?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rau Tech: yeah either should work
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Can someone help me write a plugin that will automatically respond to any tell from an imm by saying 'I am not a bot?'  I think I'd have to look for the gmcp channel in onPluginBroadcast , but how would I look up the sender to tell if they're an imm?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth slaps Fnord.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: can you use mapper to use portal you have?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: mapper help
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: type mapper help to see how to add them.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish's site (finger fiendish) has good guides on all the aard mush plugins, click the wiki section
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Alias can call other aliases?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Yes.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: ty
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, send to execute
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: no, not in game aliases
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: yeah.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: true, do you mean aard aliases or mush?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: I meant client aliases
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: then it depends on the client :D
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Yes - you just have to make sure that it outputs to 'execute' or 'script' rather than world, if in mushclient.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mush aliases can always call aard aliases...mush aliases can call other mush aliases when set to send to execute...aard aliases can never call any other aliase
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Client aliases can call up other client aliases, yes. As others have said, make sure to send it to execute, though, and not world.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Yeah. One more thing, did you set one 'mapper portal' to all of your portals? 
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: K, afk :p
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: TY
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Room Numbers are unique even in a maze? 
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: They're unique unless the room is unmappable.  Most mazes are mappable.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: they're unique even if it's mappable
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Thank you. 
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: umm, unmappable i mean
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: every room must have a unique identifier
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Not the id visible to us folks.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's not visible to us, but it still has one
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I'm aware they HAVE a unique id, however knowing this is of little use.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and generally they're easy enough to figure out anyway
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: knowledge is always of use, just not always actionable
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: One thing I wonder.  Why have two ID numbers per room?  Why not just show us the room vnum?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've wondered that as well
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sounds like a quote from the art of war or something...
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's a no brainer...
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why not show a map-enabled number to us, when trying to make a room unmappable...I wonder...
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: she means why show us 32418 instead of aylor-0?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: neither matters
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: every room has two unique identifiers, the uid and the key
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: seems redundant
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a legacy, they're identical
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It wouldn't provide much more information, other than that this room definitely belongs to this area, and the vnums would still be hideable per the current mechanicsms
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: mechanisms, rather
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's zero difference between a vnum, a UID and a key
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: right...so why do they all exist? :P
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because they're different data types
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: dupes primary keys jsut leads to headaches
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: permits renumbering
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's not a very good answer :P
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what does it matter what data type it is?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a fully-correct answer...
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: storage and access
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read everything I said, you'll immediately understand why, if you've done anything with programming...
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Well, a vnum is actually a ROM term, not a current Aard term.  A 'key' (bad terminology IMHO, in conflict with in-game keys that open doors), a "UID" is the arbitrary ID number that we can see and are simply numbered in order.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Maybe you should explain it to us retards who haven't done much programming, if you want to get a meaningful point across? :)
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vnum still exists, however, and I fully agree, key is a dumb word to use
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: uids exist only so that rooms have a numeric id so that explored can be managed via a bit array rather than having to store 40000 keys of rooms explored.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hence "data type" :P
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that makes sense, razor, thanks for explaining :)
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: you think "key" is a dumb word to use for a primary key?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on a MUD with keys, absolutely
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: He said that, not me
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling points at you.  How rude! 
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yes.  I'd prefer you called them Harold.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: oh I just remembered who you are"
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: except this is tech channel
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: which means that terms used here should be evaluated first as technical terms and 2nd as mud terms
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Well, at least UID's are explained, makes sense.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: Well fuck, I guess that means we can't call anything an "object" either.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: calling it that in code = fine...calling it that in helpfiles and other public places causes great confusion
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: most humans are ok with distinguishing the meaning of words based on context, let's just assume you're not and move on.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I always name my data types after girls i fancy, makes programming more phun
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Clearly he's a bot
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: bad language spoils participation
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling looks at you, gasps, and utters the words "Oh My Bot!"
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I am incapable of distinguishing "yes" from "no" when asking about sex.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: There's a bug in Joann?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Does that mean i'm not human?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: So does Jhav, he just fancies Harolds.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: u were never  human quad
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I disagree that it's easy to figure out from context...just this week I had to rewrite a note to get away from the abiguity
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i used to name my variables after girls who fancied me.. but then when i eeded a 3rd variable i had to change the system :(
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: thanks for clearing that up
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: None the Wyza laughs out loud.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: ok, let's just go with "you're right"
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: less work for me that way, good job.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'd love to see a pfile.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oops mischan there
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it can't change now without even more confusion, so it's moot
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: why?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: (Mendaloth)
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Just intesting never thought of the need to store an array of all the room uids
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Curiosity, I imagine
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: there's a php object that will return a pfile (or at least the profile component .. what is in finger) in an associative array.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: bugtracker login uses it, the incomplete forum code does too.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I used to get confused trying to log into bugtracker, cuz you've got one running on each server
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: oh, you want an rfile then :)
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or did a few years ago, been forever since I've even glanced at bt
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: skills, objects, rooms save separately than "pfiles", and only when they change.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: was an attempt to cut down on some of the saving bottleneck.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: people sit online idle a lot, no point constantly saving big arrays of skills and rooms explored that haven't changed.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which of the files is the worst bottleneck in general now?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: objects, by far
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: See - that's what I mean - love to peek under the hood sometimes :) 
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the bot tracker...
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: arrays? so it is not sql db used for that purpose ?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: nope, it's still flatfiles
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: for what we have they vastly outperform sql
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but not in terms data written to disk
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What are Aard's server specs, out of curiosity?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: A lot faster.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: I did extensive testing on this during v3 development to the point of throwing away a couple of weeks worth of work to get it all into sql in the first place.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: so many 1->many relationships, flat files were faster.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but, does tested db have delayed write ?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: tried all kinds of configs
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the writes are flushes not transactional...
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: not debating this, for Aard's data set, they were faster, massively.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is what one would expect for single file, though for small data changes is seems that db should be faster (if db have mem buffers and delayed write)
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: i mean, a db could "group" more blocks, therefore generate less IO operations
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: would depend more on the relationships of the data
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as usual, it all depends on data, and a bit on hardware (for example raid controllers with cache)
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: raid controller with cache doesn't change it
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: raid controller with battery backed cache should change it
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it affects burst write vs sustained write, but that'd impact both methods, so it's just changing the numbers for both up/down
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not changing one number differently than the other
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, how big are those files for single player?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I would expect 10-20 mega max, as my Aardwolf.db is about 14 M
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: since you have no idea how the data is stored, that is a completely meaningless assumption
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what does the size of your mapper database have to do with it?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: not only is it storing completely different data, it's in a different format
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a close number, just accidentally arrived at :P
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: those numbers are connected, though aard db don't need to store room names in db, so for player file could be a lot less
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: they are not connected.....
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: not directly
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I would like a copy of my pfile so that I can edit it at will ;)
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: not at all
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav nods at a proud warhorse.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're not connectted in the least...it doesn't need to store anything about the room, except what he's just described as the reason for the UIDs
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: take a peek at the data in your aardwolf.db file...
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: not directly, you can assume that if your local aard.db is 10meg, then server pfile should be a lot of less, just approximation
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: 30000 bits for rooms takes a lot less space than room names, exit info, room flags, plus all the sqlite background stuff (table definitions, etc)
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you cannot assume that in the least
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: We are talking about whole different sets ofi nformation
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Belexus Tech: you just happened to guess that correctly, does not mean there is a connection
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Trachx, that's like saying: well, the sandwich I am eating has 2000 calories, clearly the food database must be about 2000 bytes!
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's like saying if my car weighs 2,150 pounds, I can assume that my couch is 500 pounds
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth thumps a giant knife down on the table and says that famous line, 'That's not a knife! This! Is a knife!!
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i think the aard db is 1.21 gigbytes
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gigawatts?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: heheh yeah gigawatts :)
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to give it a more direct explanation...player 1 likes to explore...he explores 95% of the MUD on his first mort. His aardwolf.db file is now pretty much as complete as it will be, and it won't change size from then on...his pfile, however, is still pretty small...now he goes to r7, sitting SH, buys pockets 1 through pockets 4, has str & dex maxxed so he's got close to 1,400 items in his object pfile...aardwolf.db didn't change, but his pfile collection ballooned
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my aardmud.db file has hairy armpits
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my aardmud.db file has hairy armpits
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so does your mom, what's yer point }:>
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Two of them, so you said it twice!
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i was then thinking that
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm really glad that this world still has pleasant surprises
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hairy armpits aren't a pleasant surprise?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc searches his room database and doesn't find any hairy armpits
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: me too , what area ?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've got 15 hairy mobs
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: (35443) A Hidden Root Hair is in area "tol"
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think it'd be interesting to see a nosql comparison for object data, thoboard
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: minus the "board" }:>
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: except escaping the {}s
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: is there a plugin that tracks the GQs?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: who is it by
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no real need for one anymore, though
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: finger winklewinkle
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "gq ranges"
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: oh cool, thanks abe
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: what can i do if i clicked the [x] to close a plugin? ive tried reinstalling the plugin and ... nada
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: most plugins have a command line to show it
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: which one did you close?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: an events miniwindow
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: like bast's, but modified.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: list
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: bleh
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: anybody here?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: anybody know how to make a window that shows one kind of text
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hour question doesnt make sense
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: your
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you mean fonts, etc...each miniwindow can be set separately
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: How do you make mapper to go to an area where you can recall/use portal if you are in no portal/recall room?
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll already do its best to do that
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you try to recall in a norecall room, it'll move a room & try again, move a room & try again, etc
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Oh thanks, haven't seen/tried it yet. Was just thinking aboung the bouncerecall and so on. Thanks Abe.
T3/r6/2012-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Anyone know what the "details" field is for in gmcp room.info?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: on mapper, is there a way to purge the cexits from an area?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: purge the area or get a sqlite editor
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: how do i purge the area though..
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: type mapper help
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Read mapper help
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: if i type mapper purge cexits doesnt that purge everything?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: oooh i see
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i dunno. is that a newciommand?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: you mean forget the whole area in the mapper?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: woah that sucks
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: get passdoor wish or something?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thanks i got it working. i used mapper cexit list to just run to each room and delete them one by one.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: good work :)
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: why is it though, that even though my cexits are setup the right way in talsa. It can never runto the right room to say conadrain?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: (it was meant to be here not on question :P)
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Without wanting to be a smart-ass, they're not set up right.  I've got it working.  :)
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah fnord is right
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you will have a screwy cexit in there somehwere
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Fnord was right, a screwy cexit. Was assuming it was in a room because i had moved too quickly when i originally made the thing.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: cheer fnord
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: ok im missing something, i don't see the global triggers enabled option on the triggers window....
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: it really shouldn't be that hard for you to trigger something. what are you trying to trigger on?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: i make real basic ones just to test it out like "coins for the" to cast spellup after i kill a mob
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: not workin tho :/
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: well..
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: try using "You get * gold coins from the perforated corpse of a *"
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: err perforated should be a star too
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: k gonna try
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: "You get * gold coins from the * corpse of a *"
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: try the bast plugin. It spellsup after a fight
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Shh zinuu, i want to see if this works.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: didn't trigger :(  i must have a checkbox unchecked somewhere or something
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: let me try it
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i used the trigger "You get * gold*" and it worked.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: ok will try
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: your using MUSHclient right?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i guess i should've asked that to begin with lol
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: well i'm using MUSHclient, but it's the one off the aardwolf site if that's what we're talking about
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yup, same here
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: gah! still nothin
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: i don't put it in quotes, right? (haven't been)
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: nope
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: wheird
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: when you go to your triggers page, enable triggers on the bottom is checked right?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: yup
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: send to world, and top right check box (enabled) is checked?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: yep and yep
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: odd no idea whats missing.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: i wander if i need to run as administrator or something
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: someone said there was an "
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I doubt it..
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: someone said there was an "enable global triggers" or something but haven't seen it
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: worth a shot though
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: enable global triggers eh?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: There is enable triggers, which is a global option.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: let me see if i can find it.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Check box when you open game->configure->triggers
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: already checked that.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: reinstall Mushclient?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: download the new one off of the site.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: haven't tried but guess i could.... brb
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: new stuffs always helps
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Try checking ignore case too - and make sure it isn't a colour dependant pattern
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: it shouldn't be the way i told him to put it.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: no luck!
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: thanks anyways vadar i'll keep messin with it i'm sure i'll figure it out eventually
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: sorry i couldn't be of more help, i is noob when it comes to these technical things. But i try to help as much i can.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: if one of the bigshots were online, i know they'd help you out.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: np man greatly appreciated!
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: is there a script command in mush to disable triggers, or better yet, trigger sounds?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: if I can wrangle a new puter outta dad I might try linux on this one 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: what problem with the wireless?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: didint have a compatible wireless card, or didint have the right drivers.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: one or the other.. not sure.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: was a while ago.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Wow! i just found 2gbs of laptop ram laying around my office!
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i didint know i had this lol
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: 2 1gb pieces ftw!
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: whats that worth 15 bucks?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I read somewhere that during the 90's the mafia was actually getting more from trafficing RAM and car airbags than from drugs :)
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: trad it for a new mouse ? 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: trade *
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ROFL
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: its amazing how dirty this mouse is inside.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: I told you to clean it.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: its disgusting really. and here i thought i was cleaning it well.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could use foil bag to protect it from dust
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: WOOOT
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i love you!
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: it works lol
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: they should genetically engineer an insect that lives inside the mouse and lives off the stuff the mouse collects so it keeps it clean
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I get a colon feeder before you get a mouse feeder. I called dibs.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: they already have gerbils for thet ? 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: future is in mind mouse 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: i mean - mouse cursor controlled by mind
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Atom Tech: why even have a cursor then
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: hmm the mouse becomes obselete with the connection of mind/puter ? 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Atom Tech: can click links through mind
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are mind controlled games
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: run organisation based on neural net instead of linear too 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I've seen mins switches , you do a math problem in ur head and you switch a light on 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: mind switches
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yet EEG is kind of future, now hard to control
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: problem is the same as with voice command, really...we use our minds/voices for things other than interfacing with the puters, so you end up needing a cumbersome or physical way to just tell the computer you're talking to it
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: EEG is freaky hard to control ! I have seen stuff the Maharishi did on developing diff wave patterns n was only like 20 yer meditators that got anywhere close 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: yep Abe you'd hsve to have the puter function like our minds , nueral net style
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't work that way
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: the puter is just like a plugin for normal function 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as in, cannot work that way
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you're sitting in your office and see a hot chick walk by and start daydreaming...does the puter search for pr0n?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: our minds don't stay on task...a computer following our minds will similarly not stay on task
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: lol meditators stay on task 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure they do
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you keep believing that
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: even if they did
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: you're talking about what, .0001% of the population?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and of course, meditators using computers to meditate is, umm, an interesting concept
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Meditators do not...
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so what's the computer thinking about?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: some meditators use computers to meditate
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: riiiight
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I'm all over the place mentally , lol read up , I can meditate fairly well and I've only been doing it a year or so and not very focused , it's not  that hard 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Depending on the form of meditation, they might go instantly from 1 sensory input to another, others flow from thoughttrack to thoughttrack, others endeavour not to think at all
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: something like bwgen (brain wave)
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, you just contradicted yourself 3 times in that statement, tzad
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Dilitante meditation is a breeze. Dedicating yourself to doing it with discipline takes a lot more effort.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: lol yep but i can get all the way our in yoga nidra though pretty easy 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you can fall asleep }:>
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: (Hint: if you paid money for it, chances are mindful enlightenment was not the goal of the creators)
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: no nidra is just to get rid of the body , makes it all heavy and numb but how many gamers have you seen "in the zone" 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I've found the best way (for some people) to learn to meditate is to turn off the headphones, close your eyes, and try to pick out the sounds you hear. Try and find where each sound stops and the next one begins.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but can you hear the grasshopper standing at your feet?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Gamers being 'in the zone' is the opposite of meditation o.0
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: tech you can start that way if they distract you 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Distract? They are the focus
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I'm saying that altered states or trained states , no mater what they are are pretty common 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: By that logic, who is in a 'normal' state?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: for the purposes of mind link with purer
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: puter * then what i'm syin is that it wouldn't be that hard to adapt to use a mind interface
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Wouldn't be that hard? Really?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: since it's easy to zone/meditate etc anyway
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right...my statement of 12:20:03 stands fully, despite what you pretend
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But waht does that do? You have developed at *best* a binary input - I can do that with a simple light switch...
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In zone vs out of zone
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Light goes on, light goes off.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: So i guess WILD dreaming invokes a sort of meditation to do?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i dont know much about meditation, but i lucid dream a lot.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he means you can be focused on controlling your computer throughout your 8 hour workday by being in the zone nonstop ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: what the hell is "in the zone"?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so your computer never gets distracted because you won't get distracted...cuz paying attention is that easy and common
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: How easy is it to answer questions whilst meditating? Betcha it's pretty hard, seeings as most meditations focus on switching off the decision centre of the brain
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: nah , we have 2 hour attentiopn spans ? I got told not to study for longer without a break cause it's less useful 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's 2 hours if nothing else happens...
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 2 hour 'optimal' attention spans - this does not mean you are 100% focussed for 2 hours
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: phone rings, you just told the computer to do something else
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You still think about LOTS of other things during.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mind controlled interfaces can be useful to replace mouse, short concentration time is enough to point mouse and click
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i think the human mind can keep track of up to 7 things at any given time
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Are those being used now?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: female boss walks in, boom! pr0n onscreen...that's good for the job
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: That's why aardwolf has 7 morts
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: mind control interfaces are actually working out? cause i'd imagine it'd be hard to learn how to use one to control a computer mouse.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trachx, the issue isn't the concentration needed to point and click...the issue is the computer knowing when you're no longer trying to tell it something
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so mind interface is not good to order computer to view webpages, do excels calculations and so on, still can be used instead of mouse
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: For example, as focussed as I am on this discussion, I am acutely aware of :my fan has a loose ball bearing, my desk needs a tidy, it is late and I should be asleep, I should open my door because my fan isn't cooling the air enough, my arm is sore where I dropped a bookcase on it, etc, etc, etc, oh, how many etc should I put? SO many things to think of.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: to order computer, just click buttons "mouse mind transmission"
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's easy to do mind-control interfaces, they've existed for years...but they're more cumbersome than a mouse, despite people thinking the mind is a more-natural way to do it
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It wouldn't make Caveman Survival Sense for our brains to be capable of pure single focus awareness.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, trachx..."tech -h phys"
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i'd assume i'd be harder to use, because it's like trying to use an extra limb right?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: it's like an extra limb, but if you aren't using the other 4 at the time it wouldn't be that bad.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: More like trying to walk by using only 1 limb, and if you move any others, at all, you screw up walking.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: It's like an unnatural extra limb.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so it will never come naturally.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: unless you practice a LOT with it.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No, it is the limb you are using right now :-P Only in a different way
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: or you are already waling , add another limb and you adapt ?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: has anyone here tried the games you control with your mind that are available?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You know how to do it, but you *don't* know how to do it to the exclusion of other things this limb does
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i think i'td be easier just to use gestures with our bodies instead of mind control.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I already use my extra limb to tell the computer what I want it to do ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: nope I haven't Malkar
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: but were you distracted at the time?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The best method for human <-> x interaction currently in existance is language.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: We have spent millions of years perfecting it, and our brains are hard-wired to use it
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i agree, check out iron man :D
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for language, again, the computer needs to know that you're not on the phone or in a conversation
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: lol there are SO many subtexts in conversation it aint funny ! 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thats probably what the future would look like.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Excoriator Staniel Tech: i dunno about it being entirely unnatural - studies have been done that show that when monkeys use tools, the same part of their brain that governs limb control lights up, so they're thinking of the tool as an extension of their limb. and while it's true that an extension is a lot different from a completely new limb, there do seem to be things in place to facilitate controlling extra limb parts, and perhaps extra limbs altogether because of that
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: (best in existance != perfect :-P )
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: imagine a tech support guy walking someone through doing something on the computer...his computer would be mirroring his instructions ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No...when monkeys use tools, they generally use their limbs to do so...
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: staniel, when monkeys use tools, they're holding them in limbs and moving those limbs...so of course the same part of the brain used for limbs lights up
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Excoriator Staniel Tech: yeah, but their brain thinks of the tool as actually being part of their limb
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Excoriator Staniel Tech: i didn't explain it real well, i'll try to find the article
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so your "so they're thinking of" is a bad premise
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That seems like a whole lot of supposition...
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: actually I have seen mind controlled prosthetic limbs 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: not someting I know alot about 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah, those mind controlled prosthetics use the same nerve endings as your current limbs...
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, but mind-control prosthetics are acting like the limb we already know about
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Like how your arm right now is mind controlled :-)
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: the same way a master swordsman uses a sword. He thinks of it as an extension of his body. However, there is a difference from an extension of a bodypart, to a completely detatched, new limb.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: right ! cut off a hand and add amouse !
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i doubt that you could (easily, naturally) use a new body part since we weren't hardwired with capability to do so .
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: like if you were to add a third arm. It just wouldn't happen.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: How much more fluid do we need to be? The direction for enhanced HCI is not input methods, it is interface design.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: let's ask Doc Oc
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Excoriator Staniel Tech: aw, crap, apparently you have to subscribe to get to the full article. here's a little bit of it though. http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20227145.300-brain-sees-tools-as-limb-extension.html
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: actually, the arms had minds of their own. So they would speak to each other telepathically.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: speaking of distractions I was fleching out the mouse insect idea and thought that an insect that we subjugated its cleaning/nesting routines could clean solar arrays 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: it wasn't actually doc oc that was micromanaging the movement.s
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nanotech > genetic tech
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: does it work on octopi?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but they were fused to his spine for his gross direction
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Excoriator Staniel Tech: anyway, adjusting to a new limb would definitely be weird, but my theory is that based on that article, it might not be -as- hard as we may think, since the brain has the capability to add new 'parts' to its body map
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yeah, but then that would be an extension of his body again.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but a new one
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: you attach an arm to my spine i'll be able to grossly direct the new arm also, but it would in no way be precise.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: nor natural.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: glue a stick to my back, i'll move my spine to move the stick in the area i want to. No way it will be natural.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not so much...you can gain spacial awareness, and you can gain sensory perception, but unless there are DEDICATED pathways from the limb to motor control, you will never move that limb.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: glue a smart stick to my back, i'll point it in the general direction and tell it what to do.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he wasn't moving his spine to move it, he wasn't "swinging" the arms around with his back...
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I think we can all agree in humans huge ability for adaption - the rest is optomism/pessamism?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but of course it's a comic, so was just said to be stupid :P
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i love how we take comics so far :D
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Boiling down an argument into a single, conservative position, and labelling the other ideas as + or - is a terrible, terrible, political crapola :-(
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: honestly, the only peice of futuristic technology i'm waiting for is holographic desktop computers.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: -1
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: that you can manipulate with your fingers!
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and feel!
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: sexyness.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they call that the real world
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: cool article too - reminds me of peaol that have limbs amputated because they feel likethey don't belong , the mind map does not recognise them 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go out and touch something :-)
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: M$ skin based projection interfacing technology is in proof-of-concept stages already
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Well, it would be really cool to have a computer like that.. cmon
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I want hi-res visor screens. walking hud.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: +1
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Eye based/head tilt scrolling, blink pattern for clicks. Booyah.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Why not mind control? :D
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they already have the holograph part figured out, and all they have left there is affordability.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: link meh.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: eye control is easier to control :-)
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: imagines Praying mantises all in deep meditation at the start of a busy days cleaning a solar mirror by interfacing with the computer telling them what panels are least efficient through lack of reflective surface 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And that is how the Keepers were born...
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Also, space has no days...
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i have not heard of holographic stuff thats actually practical yet.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i heard of someone doing it with steam.. but thats dumb
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and they've done implanted pointing devices in monkey brains.  Ethics aside (and the associated costs), it probably wouldn't be much more difficult to do it to humans.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: google's working on glasses which incorporate the thing they used to have in cell phones, where you take a pic of it and google recognizes the picture & tells you about it (like take pic of empire state building, and it googles it for you)
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: you wonder how far the drone/pilot interface has been developed behind closed doors ? 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thats really hot
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and there's that Cyborg man in the UK who essentially has a computer implanted into him so that just walking into rooms in his house will interface with various appliances (lights, coffee maker, etc)
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hanslanda, the technology has existed forever...the issue is that it simply is worse control than we have now, by far, for the reasons I outlined
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: When I can get a web browser on my sunglasses, completed with tv/movie streaming and location based content, I will stop, look around, and say "Ok - I am in the future".
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thats nothing but a radio transmitter though..
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I will then go find a laser minigun, and huddle down for the zombie apocalypse.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's just near-field radio...you can do that by clipping a fob just as easily...
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an rfid tag
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yup, he just implanted it.. i'd rather just superglue it to my skin.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: end of story
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: drone/pilot interface is basically sitting in a simulator
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok. 5am, time for bed.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: LOL Vaki only to get your thought trolled by someone else on the same frequency stating the definition of future , time etc ,, trolls will never die !
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they call that Google Glasses (not the mobile app that handles phone camaras), Vakieh
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Same...frequency?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I don't think the internet works like that
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: Vibe" if you will =P
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does when you're wireless
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: lol nearly peeing myself laffin Vaki , go to bed !
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: sure why not, everyone can have wireless chatrooms dependent on frequency.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: throught their minds.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah, but one would assume these glasses would employ something at least as decent as PSK, etc.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: apparently someone inside Google let loose with teasers that this was real (prototype and everything), but no word on if it's something they'll see through to production.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, trolls will be trolls...hackers will be hackers...they'll work on 3G
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i want 4g mind control plz.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 4g is a rort...
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: rort?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Doesn't exist yet.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: Australia has just got 4G? 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If they call it 4g, they are lying.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: then why does china sopposedly have 5g?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 4G doesn't exist...you'll see 4G LTE stuff
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: is this something I annoy a parental unit for ? 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yeah, LTE means what?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it means, we can't really call it 4G without the FCC complaining
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: its like 4G LiTE
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like all the "draft N" wifi NICs
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: google glasses?  You'll probably be an adult when they finally emerge from the silly astronomical pricing new stuff starts out at.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 4g is classed as a wireless medium of over 100mb/s - if it is <100, it is not 4g.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: like sugar Vs. nutrasweet without the antisocial behaviours 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: well, i'm just excited for the new technological advances, the way the last 30 years have gone.. if we haven't destroyed ourselves yet it will probably be pretty hot in a couple years.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I do like the skiing goggles with the GPS data in them
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: vakieh i dont even have that here at my house lol
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: wired.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Wasn't google working on a 1gbps internet sped?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they were working on offering to wire up some metro areas
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: had a contest for which cities to get it
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you have no idea, Vadar.  Stuff just 5 years out is just amazing, and government R&D institutions (DARPA, NASA, etc) work on stuff out to 50 years in advance.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I thinkDru is partially right and we are in the process of destroying ourselves , just hope we get some great toys on the way :)
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, working out to 50 years is stupid and never results in what you thought :P
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: is / was silicon valley ahead of the pentagon etc ? 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what you thought was 50 years out was brought to market by a toy company 4 years later ;-)
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I read on (lol might have been Cult of the Dead Cow site) that open source was streets ahead of anthing organised 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: crowdsourcing can get targetted stuff done extremely quickly, but it's not a visionary technique
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i.e. it's good when you've got a goal already, good for ideas on how...not good for ideas on what, not a concept thing
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: it did seem like a lot of self backscratching , they were on about "having" to help the Gov with new encryption or something , lol great thing to outsource 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so yeah, the gumming will use it for parts of projects...but compartmentalized/generic so that the project won't be known
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: my takehome from the article was the patch times for windows and linux by comparasin 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err gummint
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the patch times aren't all that different, really
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: ahh gotcha ! the build the aluminum tubes but don't know how to use em :)
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: big difference between release and following -current in source repositories
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: so the 9 hour linux vs 2 week patch time between OS is untrue ? 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: linux released patches aren't quicker than windows ones...and linux has more (visible) backouts of changes from too-quick patches when talking about following -current source repository
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: correct, it's untrue for 99% of linux users
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: cool , will stear clear of that one then , but cloudsourcing is useful if guided , got that bit 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: aww lasertag , dammit too much to do here 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: nite all , ty for adding / interacting with my ramblings :) been fun !
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: enjoy :-)
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: had another idea for bike traction too , but another time !
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Octarine Tech: whats the command to lock the mush windows in position again?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard layout lock
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Octarine Tech: thanks :)
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: anyone know of any sites that have details on Aard-specific blowtorch triggers 
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I'm having trouble wrapping my brain around how to make them useful
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: How about this, ask in specific what you want, and those of us who have/use blowtorch can show you a trigger to do it, and you can learn that way.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: 'how to make them useful' doesn't really give us anything to work with.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: Anyone know a place on the web where you can find free wav/mp3's of fantasy type sounds to use with triggers?  i knew of one in like the 90's lol
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Pythaem: I just use audacity to cut my music files to the right length.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: oh i could do that for music, thx.... hoping to find some like slash/zap etc. type sound FX too
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Only know a roundabout way, and that's to get the ringtones off my android phone.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: ahhhh clever maybe i can do that :)
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: http://www.bfxr.net/   fun for creating random sounds for games. :)
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I'm sure there's some sites out there that host it, but I'm sure their legality is questionable, which means we can't really advertise it on a public channel.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: it mostly does things like zaps and explosions and stuff, but it is fun :)
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: oh thanks!!@w
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: gonna check it out now
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: gonna check it out now
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: oops sorry
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Another thing you can do it download the beatbox app for android and you can add snares and crap in whatever order you want to make custom sounds.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Audacity is awesome for voice manipulation
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: k sweet thx again all
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: that website is what I've used when I need random noises for retro games. :)
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Nice :)
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: anybody here familiar with writing plugings?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: plugins/
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I have a stupid question! (of doom!) What's the key combo in screen to swap to an empty text editor instead of irc (of doom!) I'm too tired to make sense out ofmy google results today.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: I forgot to uncheck the 'Automatically Update and Install' part of the old version of my Skype and it's now downloaded and installed, how do I make it not install the update upon Skype reboot? >.< I like to keep old version.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: anybody here familiar with writting plugins?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: not me at all.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: but shoot the question anyways.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's very involved and finicky, having to build both the interface with ZMud as well as all the code you want said plugin to do.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Excoriator Staniel screeches and breaks lots of things. Several failed attempts at using the 'find' command are on his linux console.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Excoriator Staniel Tech: paths must precede expression. i'm trying to escape the wildcard, trying to use something that doesn't have a wildcard, putting it in single quotes, double quotes, it keeps giving me the same error
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Excoriator Staniel Tech: anyone have experience with this issue?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Excoriator Staniel Tech: ... okay, seems like it's trying to use some other 'find' command somewhere on the machine that isn't the real find, or something. weird
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: todayds stupid question... )number 24324235= how do I swap the language I type in_ Like ctrl something_
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: alt+shift, maybe?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: THank you! I was being silly and trying ctrl shift :P
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: they should both work
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: one goes up the list of languages, the other goes down
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: yes. But ctrl shift didn't make my o's with dots go away :P
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I have the language bar hidden :P
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so unhide it? :P
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Excoriator Staniel Tech: Okay, I've narrowed down my find woes a bit. I'm using Debian Squeeze. Trying, say, 'find' by itself gives no output. Trying /usr/bin/find and /usr/bin/local/find on the command line gives the expected output. No matter what I do, no matter what user I am, if I try to do just 'find' without the path, it errors. I've checked env and everything seems(?) okay. Is there a name for this problem? I'm looking on google but don't really know what to call this.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Excoriator Staniel Tech: I'm not sure what it's trying to do; doing which find gives me the /usr/local/bin/ one but that one works fine if I name its path explicitly.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: what are the names of the files i'll need to copy to transfer my triggers and aliases and macros over when i upgrade version of mush?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: There should be instructions on aardwolf.org
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: The only thing it doesn't cover is 3rd party plugins
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bast's plugin has his own wiki.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: The main thing you need to be concerned about is your world file though (Aardwolf.mcl or something along those lines by default).
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: That and the database file
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: i moved the preferences file to the new mush folder...but nothing transfered, any suggestions?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Excoriator Staniel Tech: ... well, i resolved my issue with the find command... note to self... next time your commands act weird, check .bashrc to see if you aliased them to something weird for god only knows what reason :p
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makedo Tech: I'm wondering if anyone can help me with a simple code on the mush client?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: sure
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makedo Tech: I'm trying to just shorten up the 'mapper find' phrase.  I just wanna be able to do like mf 'monster' and it will work.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Alias mf * -> mapper find %1, send to execute.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what jhav said
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makedo Tech: I did that, so I typed mf common.  It came up with Sorry Makedo, I don't understand you.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: you forgot execute part. you sent it to mud instead of client
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makedo Tech: Ahh thank you.  I don't know what this Winklewinkle thing is to download, so I will just stick with the basics.
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: anyone mess with arch linux?
T3/r6/2012-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: does anyone here use ZFS?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: anybody on know about making plugins?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: ask Bast or Winklewinkle.
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: they are tought but rewarding
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the secret is to start small and develop in something like dropbox so you can roll back when you f-- it all up
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: clickable consider all mini window http://pastebin.com/qXj2Dqfp#  copy that paste into a new file "conwindow.xml" in the world\plugin directory for mushclient
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Any ideas what I can do to make sure my System Menu is properly populated with the entries from GNOME control center?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Right now it just has Help and About GNOME..
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: The usual Administration/Preferences options aren't there.
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm using Debian Squeeze...
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: My power suddenly went out earlier, and then I've made some alias yesterday, client-side, when I came back online, those are gone, looks like they're not save, is there any way of getting those back? 
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: no
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: To save settings in client = File > Save World Details?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: okay, lol I guess I'll have to do those again then rofl.
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: dunno about mush, but zmud keeps that stuff in ram until the settings are saved manually or via shutdown
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: any ideas why mush client can't be self updating so we don't have to lose all our triggers and aliases and macros every single time we update the program???
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you can save your aliases,macros and triggers and load them when updating
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i can't answer that question well, however there *are* directions to save all that stuff
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: and then migrate it to the new version when you update
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: well apparently i cant
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: ive tried three times and every time i lose everything
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I followed the updating instructions and everything went without a problem. :) I just had to move the files it told me to move
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it saves to a file. Then you tell mush which file you "saved" your aliases or macros or triggers
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: it wouldn't let me rename the existing file
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: save to a different name
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: did you close down mushclient before trying?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: i was trying to rename the existing file so that when i downloaded new mush it could save as mushclient without overwriting
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: yep
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Is there a way to make the MUSHclient icon Blink on a trigger?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I can't use a sound because i'm in class. But how about blinking?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: is there someway i can change a script for zmud to mushclient?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: rewrite it
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: nod
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there are some rudimentary conversion scripts for very basic stuff on the forums, but not reliable
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: are any conversion scripts reliable?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: It's sorta direct translation from english to spanish. Doesnt always work well.
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: does anyone here use ZFS?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: is there anyone here that can help me translocate a script from zmud to mush? will pay you for it.
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: what does it do... 
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Atticus Tech: anyone know why mush mapper would stop working randomly? I reloaded my mapper.db file into it and still nothing
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Thats odd. You run MUSH off of a flash drive?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i've had wierd experiences running it off of a flash drive and pulling it out unexpectedly.
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: usually a restart/reload of files fixes that error though.
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Stop working how?  None of the commands (e.g. 'mapper help') work?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or just stops finding paths?  Or what?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Atticus Tech: stop finding paths 
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Atticus, do you get an error message? Or just no response?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: atticus, are you using winklewinkle's plugins?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Atticus Tech: yeah.
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Did you update his plugins?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: To the new version?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: after the reboot, some of the plugins got messed up.  You need his new version (all fixed)
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Any explination to why Piffaron? Just wondering.
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: yeah, there was an issue with extra spaces.  You can manually fix it by editing the plugins, and changing 28 character limit to 30, but easier to just download wink's update:)
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: anyone ever use a data recovery company / recommend a reputable one?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: For hardware failure, or stuff that got deleted?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: HDD failure
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei shakes his head.
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: meh
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: too many popping up on search with ad-hoc looking websites for me to trust.
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check ontrack - they are reputable one
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, if it is electric failure and you have identical hdd, you can change electric board
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and if you are lucky and your problem is with seagete 7200.11 series, you can try to use disk terminal to "repair" HDD
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: the PCB is fried and I tried changing that but getting a ticking noise so I'd rather they do it in a proper environment etc..
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: is whats on it valuble enough to spend paying for data recovery?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: yes very
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: you might want to consider backups next time.. or Solid state drives. 
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: cheaper in the long run
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grae sighs.
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: i dont know what data recovery costs.. i know its not cheap tho. or you would hear about more people doing it.. lol
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Streck Tech: I want a specific folder in my apache server to always run a certain script every time any file in the directory is accessed. For example, I have a bunch of MU* logfiles and I want to be able to just put the raw txts into a folder and when someone opens that txt as a url, some PHP/HTML/whatever code is automatically run as sort of an include, even though the raw txt doesn't mention including. Is this possible, and if so, what's it called?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: i am not quite sure, but mod_rewrite should do that work
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Streck Tech: I looked at that, I don't think it's quite what I'm looking for. SetHandler seems like it may be the trick, if I'm not totally misunderstanding it
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Streck Tech: Hmmm, on second inspection, mod_rewrite does seem like the right thing. Thanks, Trachx!
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: O hai
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and be even more specific :)
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: bot broken. what do?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Well, I am loading GUI Extender from winkle into mushclient and then its spamming this
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: sendgmcp request char
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: do you have the gmcp handler loaded?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Guess not
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you're not running fiendish's aard mush it won't work
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I am back
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I enabled it again...no spam
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Now how do I test this? :P
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: start a cmapaign.. or type "xcp"
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Guess its not working :P
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Neither is the aardwolf stuff
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle stands well back from this one.
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe you need enable more plugins (if you had gcmp handler disabledm then probably you disabled something else)
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I can just load all of them :P
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: And see what happens
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: maybe start again from a fresh zip
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd recommend downloading a fresh copy of fiendish's aard mushclient package and adding to that
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't disable any plugins from that initial mushclient unless you fully understand what it does
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Owh god
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: What did I do now :P
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: AGREE
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Argh!
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I am too tired for this :P
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: There we go...
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Now I can add winkle's scripts?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle braces himself.
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Is there a way to make mushclient not forget my last input?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> commands
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: top checkbox
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can also use up/down arrows to cycle through your recent commands
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: alt+0 and click repeat last command.
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: With the fiendish mushclient...the cummonication log is just for catching?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: yep
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, you always type at the bottom
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I know that... but its showing in my normal ' play  ' windows aswell...quite spammy :P
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the comm log
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everything's configurable/customizable with right-click interfaces
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: lol its damn handy is what it is. 
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Echo-none I guess
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Is there also a portal use script for the mush client?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: its built into the mapper
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Hmm
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: mapper help
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: use the portal to go where it is, then do mapper portal <command>
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i have a useportal alias that gets it from my bag so i do, mapper portal useportal <portalid>
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: it will ask you for the portal's level (without tier adjustments) and will know when you can start using it
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Introduction?tm=6
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: also, that
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is a wiki for several of your questions to be answered.
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Ok, but if and when I do this, it doesnt take and wear them from my bag right
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Whoops
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You need to setup an alias for that.
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Guess as much
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Anyone know how to make miniwin_quest gui show? o.o
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bast's plugin?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: anybody know much about matching texts at all? I wanna make a plugin that counts kills by type but im not making much sense of picking out wild cards and such
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: kill wild
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: Is there a way to change what room the mapper sees as the first room of an area?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Sure, you delete the System32 file in C:
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: for instance, id rather my mapper see the hotel part of prosper as the first part
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: harhar
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Ok ok, I was kidding. First you have to microwave the computer, then submerge for exactly 237.34 seconds, then send it on a cicular trajectory to slingshot the sun, and when it touches back down to earth hit it with a hammer.
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Streck Tech: that submerge part is the hard bit
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, it's tricky to pull it at the proper time, I suggest building a robot for it.
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polluxor Tech: i logged in and my mn and mv are 0 and arent recovering.  can anyone help me
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: are you in nenukon?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polluxor Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polluxor Tech: i was until i was killed
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that room has negative regenration.. you need someone to send you soen refresh potions
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polluxor Tech: didnt know - rookie mistaqke. thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Any tintin users that can help me figure out why the #event {MAP EXIT ROOM} fires twice when moving 1 room?
T3/r6/2012-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: nm I figured it out :P
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Hrm, is 120 lines too long of a pagesize to not get disconnected?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: depends, i have mine 0, no problems
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I get disconnected when I type note list with pagesize at 0 or 120
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: for me it really depends on my client whether I get spammed off or not
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Is that a mud thing or a telnet thing?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: It's a client thing.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: telnet boots me
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Well I'm not even using a client atm. Just telnet.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hyrck Tech: was hopeing someone could help me with a question or two about the much client..
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: If you just ask your question, you'll get an answer quicker.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hyrck Tech: I just downloaded it for the first time, I apologize it these are simple but, in the flash client you can scroll up to see what happened, what was said before
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can for MUSH too
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But on the far-right edge of the window
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hyrck Tech: I dont see any kind of scrolling function? I can click and roll up highlighting and moveing up, but not the simple scroll up?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Is your mush client maximized?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: very right side.... or you can use your mouse wheel
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeila Tech: is it far harder to play via android client? seems i'm one of the few around using it
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: Well typing is a lot slower than texting for most people.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i just use mousewheel
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but there's a scrollbar on right
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hyrck Tech: yes it is maxed oh I see outside the window, window der haha sorry got it
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: But it's all about preference. I know some people that exclusively use mobile devices. I personally would never want to.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hyrck Tech: I play using my iphone at work, but it is hard to type, and see whats going on
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hyrck Tech: ok another question since there is a seperate communication log, is there a way to turn of communications on the main screen?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitanix Tech: anyone hapen to know what the npc say/tells are under in the communication log of the ard mush client?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: mobsay
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitanix Tech: thanks a bunch
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitanix Tech: wasn't sure if that covered all of it, thanks again ^^
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone know how to get around the issue padding not being part of the size calculation of block level elements in html?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: any who messes with mush, I wanna make a trigger that'll turn my afk stuff on when I'm not active and then turns it back off when I start entering commands again, any hints?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the second part is easy. Start with afk as command
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: I want it to do it automatically
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: anyone know if its possible to stop winkles script from homing in underdark, and always use a portal?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: need to have every room there marked as norecall
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: thats actually just the mapper trying to take the shortest route, until it knows all those rooms are norecall it'll keep trying to do that
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: can someone remind me how to make f1 a macro?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: i think there's a check box f1 and f6 are macros somewhere?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes at file->gobal preferences  general tab
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: ctrl+alt+g then click general tab
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: thanks a lot
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: im in this habit of thinking all things are located in alt enter, that's good to know
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitanix Tech: I've got chat going across the screen and not wrapping around like it's supposed to (going off screen), ardmush client, any help? The "wrap output" setting doesn't seem to help
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitanix Tech: no ideas then? damn
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: how do you make a gag in gmud?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i want to gag godot
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i tried .*[g|G]odot.*
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: less maggots the better, that's a regular expression should be recognized by any engine
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: does mushclient qr
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: mis
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: Hello, for some reason the main window has resized itself to just a thin band. I'm using Aardmush, I have tried to restart.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: use your mouse to resize it?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitanix Tech: drag the bottom right corner to drag and reseze
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kitanix Tech: resize*
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if not for increasing tml amounts.. i think you could t9 in two weeks
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mis
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle is loving 1k tnl!
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tzadkiel dies of embarasement ... i should have tried harder ....
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Atticus Tech: anyone have issues with winkle's new SnD being whicked laggy?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Upgrade
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Oh, nvm - misread
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: when did you last upgrade?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Atticus Tech: I just did, like yesterday
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: probably user error then
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hrm.. i cna't think of any reason why it'd be lagging you.. in anything in particular?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: software designed to monitor internet traffic will lag you almost by definition
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Google to the rescue!
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: wink's just trying to do research to find the best porn sites...
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: umm maybe make sure you don't ahve any indexing going on with that directory?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Atticus Tech: when I do quest request, then 'go' it takes like 10-20 seconds to actually do anything
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle finds www.hotnerds.com
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: winklewinkle finds www.DudesPretendingToBeFemaleMudders.com
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: technically finding a path is an intensive procedure.. do you have many portals mapped?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: does your status bar show a lot of path messges in your status bar?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: iff - Aren't they all?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: @Piff - Aren't they all?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: winklewinkle are you working on any more great projects like SnD?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Piffaron nods.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i am.. my equipment swapper plugin is almost ready for prime time
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: thank effin god. 
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: I was really not wanting to write trigs for everything
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Equipment swapper? Tell us more, sounds interesting.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: with mendaloth's patience i should have soemthign in a few weeks...
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably level based sets swapping
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: can you create an SnD interface that just queus up mobs for leveling purposes that way we don't have to type so much?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Will it choose the best item if you have multiple possible equipment options for a particular level and slot?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: It would be really nice for my aardweaps so I don't have to constantly compare or tag them
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you set up level and named sets.. can equip a set by level or level range.. or by name.. it remember what you have worn, so you can "equip worn second"  and it'll dual whatever your last weapon was there, etc .. take items in and out of bags
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: like just grab from mobdeaths
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it would be nice to have mob database with room id the mob was seen in
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: @Kojiro - nope
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: yeah winklewinkle, lets make the game playable by just hitting the spacebar
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Winkle, for Kojiro's purposes could he not spoof the campaign/gq message with his own list of mobs?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: spacebar! pish! one key too many!
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no the game plays on its own, you just stop it by hitting spacebar
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: (I don't use SnD so I'm ignorant)
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: now now, lets not get into botting. At least one key input is legal
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: better just pause output, and level in backgroud than just top
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: wait, wasn't there some jedi mind power game that came out?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: should build four colorful button controller. qrequest,s&d,qcomplete, then it is possible to quest when sleeping.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that plugins could evolve into something similar to core wars
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: three
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: besides, you don'n need three buttons - only one - cause it is stateful machine - so just click-click-click to get quest done
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yes rabidrabbit that's an awesome idea
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also know as botting. not afk, but still botting
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: you can't get in trouble if you are actively playing the game and in the window paying attention
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, still botting tho
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: wait, paying attention?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: kind of neural network could simulate attention
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: it's not illegal if you are actively playing the game and in the window paying attention
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i didn't say it was illegal. i said it was botting
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: botting is illegal
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: stuff like gmcp and related plugins have taken all fun out of lower range gqs
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: I have a feeling that most people aren't paying attention at 7k+ tnl. 
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: fortunately, higher ranges need some skill as well
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: Yes Abel, 100% agree.  BS mob, spiral spiral, alt tab
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: and of course BS spiral spiral are aliased so its more like kk %1, alt-tab
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: redryn, botting while afk is legal. botting while at keyboard is perfectly legal nowdays
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: what is spiral ?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: thief skill
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: even endorsed in a way. gmcp wasn't implemented for manual playing
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pythaem Tech: ah ty
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: botting while afk is legal?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: no
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: tell lasher it's endorsed soem time
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have on ftalk
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i want a second opinion
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: ok. no no
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sorry, afk is illegal. ak is legal
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: is there a way to give players who are active in the window a slight leveling advantage over those who run scripts or just bs, spiral spiral alt tab?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you cannot gain anything if you are afk, so botting while afk is legal (turn afk before starting bot though)
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: at keyboard is illegal still. it's just unenforceable
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: no need to alt-tab. Just float vlc on top
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: help botting, as long as you're active in the game, botting not illega
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, mapper+snd combo would have counted as botting the gqs in the old days
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's like jaywalking, it's illegal, everyone does it and gets away with it, but still illegal
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: or speeding?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: wrong
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i can't have a pup bot running while i chat on ft
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: for oexample I'm running a leveling script while chatting on tech, perfectly legal even thopugh I press nothing to kill these harpies
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: i cant make any xp when some dumb tv-show is not running on the 2nd monitor
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's just that odds are i'll be able to respond to any bot check that comes up
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: unless you have #killall macro, redryn
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: illegal kojiro
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: I though the general rule was whether at the keyboard or not, player has to initiate the kill.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: perfectly legal
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: player has to initiate the kill, at most you can stack a single room of kills
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: sure I hit space bar
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: stacking multiple rooms even while the keyboard is illegal
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there we have it
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: "hit space bar to kill next harpy", hit space bar to mve to next harpy"
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that's correct
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but 'perfectly legal even thopugh I press nothing to kill these harpies' is wrong
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: that's probably a grey area if you are actually at the keyboard.  all the mud sees is K harpy, not how it's generated through scripts or wahtever on client side
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's still illegal
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but unenforceable like i said
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: dont go typing kill mob enter during speed walk
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's illegal to possess drugs, but if you hide them in your floor boards and never do anything suspicious, you aren't going to get caught
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: inability to catch people doesn't make it legal
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: redryn you are nnot quite right
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: read help botting -- it's vague (deliberately so, imo) on tihis issue
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's no
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: feel free to ask any imm
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: frame the question correctly
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: Kojiro Tech: for oexample I'm running a leveling script while chatting on tech, perfectly legal even thopugh I press nothing to kill these harpies
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: "Is it legal to run a script that automatically finds and kills mobs while I'm actively playing the game and in the window"?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ask any imm to verify this
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: point me to where it's against the rules redryn
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: Any method which provides your character with meaningful gains, without  any direct interaction from you, is illegal.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: levelling script?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I'm in the game.  that's direct interaction
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: don't be stupid
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: feel free to write a script like that though
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the helpfile gives the exmaple of the character doing actions while the human is in another window or not paying attention
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I'm paying full attention
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I'm fully active
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I'm fully in the window
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'd love to see you bring that line of argument against any imm
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: the spirit of game is abused
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: but just because you are now doesnt mean you always are
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: if you are not entering the kill command, and the script is moving and killing on your behalf that is illegal Kojiro - regardless of your activity on channels
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the second I'm not is the second I'm botting and brekaing the rules
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: jail him noa!
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: its a bot, just because you are at the computer doesnt make it less of a bot imo
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: then the helpfile needs to be updated to say "thou must tpye kill, or press a button (alias) to initiate a kill"
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: not beat around the bush
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: This is true even if you're at the keyboard and sitting in another window as your character is busy,
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: This is true even if you're at the keyboard and sitting in another window as your character is busy,whether solo or part of a group (leader or follower).
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yes tangel nobody is arguing with that exmaple
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: you mean this line is unclear when listed as types of action...* Kill monster, automatically find next monster on death & attack.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the helpfile doesn't go far enough if what styliann says is considered the definition of "direct itneraction"
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it can be implied that the gains made are without direct interaction
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: chatting on a channel is not direct interaction viz levelling
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm not going to argue anymore, but feel free to tell me if any imm endorses your reasoning
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: this is pretty clear The most common instances of this are complex scripts which can find and automatically kill mobs
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: doesnt say while away from keyboard, it says this is a bot
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: read the helpfile carefully
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: look at what "this" refers to
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: it refers to playing the game..."without direct interaction"
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: its a single sentance leading into examples of botting. Thats your interpretation imo
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: [INITATE TECH SCRIPT] I agree with [#%NAME%#] about [ERROR LINE 12]
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Piffaron grins evilly.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: [INITATE TECH SCRIPT] I DISagree with [#%NAME%#] about [ERROR LINE 12]
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: the next paragraph goes onto give examples such as complex scripts, and then goes further to say "Killing mobs and finding the next"  You are gaining without working for it, the only work you did was create a script
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: if the test is something more than "always being actively in the window, interacting with the game, and paying attention", as Styliann is saying, that should 100% eb in the helpfile
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: [INITIATE KOJIRO SCRIPT] I disagree with whatever he just said.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: [INITIATE SCREW WINKLEWINKLE SCRIPT] Screw you Wink! :)
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: BOT
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: paying attention and interacting is a bit different imo.  You could have your script killing anywhere and be close enough to see an imm or someone send a tell and as long as you reply its ok
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: because where I come from (a place where language is precise and important), those three things constitute "direct interaction".  Thus the rest of the helpfile wouldn't apply
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: They don't send you a tell to bot-check you, they have other methods.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: tangel I'm sure there are more subtle methods used to see whether you are paying attention
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: a lawyer would have a field day with botting and GQ rules.. hoever.. there is no legal system here.. Imms are judge jury and executioner
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the only time I was bot checked I was like a maxxed 6x remort in v1 gold runnign in amazon and one of the imms just transported me to recall and when iwas like WTF DYKWTFIA??? I passed
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: idk imo scripts that autokill and move are illegal according to the file.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: "They are the Law!"
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: you arent interacting with the mobs you are killing
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: heh. one good way would be no quest reward - if you dont complain, you're a bot:)
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It seems pretty straightforward to me, don't let your scripts engage stuff. Don't let your scripts gain rewards for you while you are afk.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: or xp
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: bottable rr
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: and as the following paragraph says - if your script would keep running regardless of whether you were at the screen or not, then you really need to switch it off
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: let's just bring out the dice, and graph paper, and go old school so then there is no question...
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: for instance.. vlad maze.. if you go north.. then you are always 1 room away from teh gates.. adn if you sue an exit name detector you can tell with way.. you can add that to the mapepr db
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Shrug, the one time it happened to me, they stopped my fight, then echoed something like 'Who's there?  Say "me"!'
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mis
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: starling, hm and if you would of pointing the map to the next target you would of been a bot
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yes styliann, but as the test posited by the helpfile "leaving in an emergency" suggests, it's not that the triggers are illegal.  It's that they are running if the player isn't there (i.e. if an emergency) that is illegal
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: no it is the script that is illegal
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: the "if I have to leave question" can be considered a type of acid test... this works without my interaction to perform those actions, so it is illegal
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: everyone bigger than me is illegal
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: kojiro if your chatting on tech while your character is "gaining exp", you are actively chatting not actively playing. thats illegal
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: "another good gudieline is the ability to respond to tells promptly".  IF what you say is true about the scripts themselves being illega, regardless of how the player is interacting witht the game, then this helpfile NEEDS to be re-written 1.  much shroter and 2.  clearly stating what you are saying
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: well the tells thing only works if you're not playing single window and don't have catchtells on. Not really a definite
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: gentoox that is definiteively wrong
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i think gentoox might be a bit poo
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: of course not.  we are chatting atm, not playing
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: that helpfile specifically says "actively playing"
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: how the hell is TigeNuts allowed to keep his name? im offended!
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: abel:  right i mean th ecatchtell command makes that paragraph just stupid.  It probably really means "the ability to respond to an imm verifying you are "acitvely involved" in the game, which is the test of botting
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: really the botting rules needs to be simplified.  If you are running atuomated scripts, and you are found not to be presented, you are breaking the rules are are nuked.  End of story
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: "stacking commands" that contains commands that gains anything for your char will still constitute botting.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: none of thise 2 pages full of well if you are actively involved, well if you can respond to tells, well this well that
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its the stacked commands that prohibits you to respond to tells promptly regardless of catchtells
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: but you are not actively playing is a script is running, you are splitting a hair in your favor in my opinion. Chatting is NOT actively playing while your character is having meaningful gains
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: because it makes it seem like the test is being present, not the script itself (as styliann says)
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: no Kojiro... I have said the script is illegal.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i know yous aid that, and I'm saying that is not clear based on the helpfile, and it should be
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: out of everyone here, you're the only one who seems to be unable to understand the helpfile
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't think this is a problem with clarity
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: Having a script to walk around - lets say TOL, that walks around while attacking specified mobs automatically is illegal
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: heh, i like that lets rewrite the rules to make my script legal
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the helpfile is NOT written to say "these kind of scripts are illegal".  It's written to say, if you do automated thigns and aren't "actively itneracting" with the game, it's illegal.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: BIG difference
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: your interpretation
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: you are not actively playing, chatting is not playing
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yes, it's my interpretation, and it's certainly a reasonable one.  Something that results in character nuakges needs to have a helpfile clearly written.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: it clearly says what type of scripts are illegal, it doesnt say you can script if you are active. The first paragraph is a blanket statement, it then goes on to very clearly describe activities that are illegal. It n ever reinforces you can break any rule you want, if you are active.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: take out the mention of "actively involved" in the game so it's not open to itnerpretation
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: beacuse being in the window, paying attention, not multitasking, if that isn't actively involved I don't know what is
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: ok clarify
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ambido Tech: are there any zmud maps for aard wolf out there?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: how you are actively involved in your characters gain
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: Any method which provides your character with meaningful gains, without any direct interaction from you, is illegal. 
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I'm healing myself when needed
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: "actively involved"?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I don't need to heal very often since I kill mobs in 3-4 rounds each, but I heal manually if I need to
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so there you go, now is it ilelgal?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: because the script is still the script
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but now am I "actively involved"?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: you see the problems with thsis helpfile now?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes its an illegal script
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: again, since within the examples of botting is listed... Kill monster, automatically find next monster on death & attack.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: still thinking moving from room to room clearly is illegal.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: I really can't see how this escapes you as being clearly defined
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: tangle, moving from room to room is not illegal. its not gaining your character anything
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: because styliann, the helpfile does not say (As it should?) the following scripts are ILLEGAL:  automatically killing mobs, moving, etc.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: it gives them as exmaples of botting while referring to not being "Actively involved" playing the game
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it says 'here are some other examples'
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: kojiro it doesnt need to.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: obviously they are not exhaustive
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it gives them as examples of botting, and botting is illegal, therefore those examples are illegal
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: please read the very first paragraph
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i've read the entire thing, kojiro
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: this covers them all => "Any method which provides your character with meaningful gains, without any direct interaction from you, is illegal."
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: again, key in on the "without direct itneraction" part
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: Kojiro, if I know that bots are illegal, which the file does clearly state. And I know that Action A is listed as an example of a bot. I damn well know that Action A is illegal
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you want to interpret it your way, that's fine, do whatever you want... we won't miss you
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: you all think it's intuitive and logical what "direct itneraction" means, but it's not.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: why not?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if everyone thinks they know what it means
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: if it means manually typing an alias for kill, or an alias for moving, then it needs to say that
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and everyone thinks the same think
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: thing*
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: then by definition it /is/ logical and intuitive
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the outlier is the one who's illogical and not very intuitive
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: an aliases themselves don't give characters any gain.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no, the outlier is the one who runs automated scripts and who even needs to read this helpfile
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: we won't miss them then
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if the automated scripts contains those "gains" then yes thats illegal
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyone with the least bit of sense who thinks 'eh this seems to cheat to be legal' would ask first
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and be told that it's illegal
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if they want to run with their own interpretation... ignorance of the law is no excuse
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: we are talking about the ehlpfile actually says, and what it means, not your personal views on who is a valuable part of the community to you
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what it actually says is up for interpretation
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: based on the general understanding of language
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: in the context of a rule
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: well Kojiro, regardless of how you view the helpfile - you have had an imm clarify the position for you. If you have a opnion on how the help file is written, you know where the boards are. If you choose to ignore the clarification, we can keep a jail cell warm for you :)
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and the purposive meaning of the rule
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: well you can try and rewrite the helpfile if you want. then submit it to the imms
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: if he rewrites it It will say "You can do whatever you want, just be sure to push a button every few minutes"
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tangel P
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: you know I do ask the imms, because even when the player gains nothing, some automated activities are considered illegal
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the helpfile is very very deficient
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: tangel well they will still review it :)
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: most players aren't creative enough to even understand the issues
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: not to me, only to someone who wants to be very borderline actively botting
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: kojiro, now then stop whining and start giving back to the mud by modifying the help file
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: but at the same time with the depth of the game i could see the need/want for complex trigs
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: did you know writing a bot that makes people like you is considered benefiting your character and can get you nuked for botting even though zero stats of any kind are increased on your pfile?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: you wouldn't know it by reading help botting
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: hm. is it legal: alias k *> strangle,backstab,5xspiral, heal?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: Yes rabid
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: rabid, yes
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: just dont over stack so you cant respond
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: i overstack usually when ACTIVELY playing:)
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: overstacking isn't an issue, really.  any bot check that I know of will leave plenty of room for your stack to clear out quickly
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: being able to respond in that case doesnt meant anything. the command sent is still illegal
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: there are funky rules about not stacking moving between rooms, but I'm not sure where they are in the helpfiles
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: it isn't, Rabid. Help stacked commands
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: try help command stacking
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: help command stacking ->  There is no help with that keyword.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: and Anadorr is right, the example rabidrabbit gave is legal, it is simply a stack of commands aimed at a single mob
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: help botting -> leads to help stacked commands
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: help stack
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its not, since it heals?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: And Kojiro: Anadorr said help stacked commands, NOT command stacking
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: try help stacked commands - I often get the words the wrong way around on that help file
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Styliann makes a note to add the keywords command stacking to that help file
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: Gentoox, that alias heals regardless of his hp... and needs his direct interaction to fire that alias. So it is perfectly legal
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: see, that helpfile is the perfect example of what I'm talken bout
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: thanks!
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: help bot
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the note from lasher, the rest of the helpfile, it all makes it sound like a script trying to do somewthing while you aren't there, or you not being able to do something if something funky happens (i.e. not paying attention).. all these references made to botting
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: like THAT is the operative part of botting, and not the script itself
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: unsubscribe
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: styliann its a small script it will finish soon, but still it auto heals.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: ok I'm done :)
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: off
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: I'm not defending Kojiro (gods forbid), but he may have a point in that
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: Gentoox, it doesnt hunt or autoengage. And it only fires with him actively deciding to use it. It also pays no attention to his hp, so he could in theory die during it's execution. However, if that alias was combined with a trigger to automatically fire when a given mob was in the room, then it becomes illegal
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: anadorr its "actively playing" that he needs to understand
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: you must be actively playing aardwolf - correct.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: the method by which you gain experience must also require direct interaction from you
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: styliann yes its a poorly done heal script *grins*
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: which incidentally is line 2 of the help file Any method which provides your character with meaningful gains, without 
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: gentoox I have to pay attention and watch my hp.  I'm actively chatting in the game.  I wonder why you think auto-healing scripts are ok when you manually kill but auto-killing scripts aren't when you manually heal.  When in both cases the human is again 1005 actively in the window paying attention.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: which incidentally is line 2 of the help file Any method which provides your character with meaningful gains, without any direct interaction from you, is illegal. 
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: sorry for copy/paste fail on first attempt :p
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i did not ever say auto healing scripts are ok
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: kojiro, you have to pay attention
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its seems like you are not actively chatting too.  I think you are a bot
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: suppose we have a script, that does EVERYTHING by itself, however requires a player to hit a button every 30 sec. it would be illegal according to moral rules and common sense, but would be legal (I guess) according to the rules
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: direct interaction with the game while chatting is different to direct interaction with the game while in combat
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yea styliann, and we are back to what "direct itneraction" is.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: not really Kojiro. You have to accept that there are 2 sentences, and therefore 2 concurrent points.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: point 1, you must be active in game.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: anadorr, of course not. refer to 'help stack'
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: point 2, you must be actively involved in the method by which you gain
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: why are you arguing with a troll?  feeding the trolls only make them more trollier
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: well that's a pretty major itnerpretation when you have a social game and leveling game.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: ah, correct, GentooX
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: help stack
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so the command aren't stacked.  Why is anadorr's script illegal?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: bottom line, you can make a smart script that sees what targest are available and creates a series of stacked commands, or does them one at a time.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it not stacked server side, but it is automated client side.  It doesn't require entering of those commands manually
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so does the human need to press spacebar every 5 seconds, 10 seconds, 30 seconds, 1 minute, or what before it's illegal?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what if you make a robot to type int he commands for you at a keyboard?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: winklewinkle then you are sharing your account with the robot.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what if I turn on quiet mode and do text to speech and yell commands across the room?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hehe
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: still illegal *grins*
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: hell, I though a couple of my clannies were robots that put cars together for a living
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: kojiro, your character will die.  because you are not smart enough.  poor character
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I think these helpfielse were written this way on purpose b/c there is no answer to the 1,5,10,30 second question.  The only test that even makes sense is whether the human is cactually there.  And that's what both help botting and help command stacking talk about (ad nauseum)
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: kojiro we don't need to answer such question.  we have answered them before
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: So you have to answer the questions you've never answered before?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I didint know you had such an obligation.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I'm still waiting for the anwer to andaoor' s script question
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Just messing with ya buddy :D thanks for the answers you give.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: Kojiro, please drop it. As already stated by me. The rule has been for you by an imm. If you have an issue with the help file you know where the boards are. If you choose to ignore the clarification then please don't complain about any consequences
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: Ok.  Thank you for the guidance.  I will re-write to make me press spacebar every few commands and go from manual heal to auto-healing trigger
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ok
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: where the spacebar is a "smart" alias to stack a few commands that are intellignently figured out by a script
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if its you, it won't be intelligent. *rolls eyes*
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: No personal attacks please.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its the script.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: timers/triggers to stay logged in = OK?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: just double checking.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes vadar
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i'm not really gaining anything but quest time.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: it's all completely irrelevant.  I'm always active when leveling, so I could pass any bot test thus even if I WAS breaking the rules, I could not be caught.  I guess that's the ultimate takeaway.  Sorry for spamming everyone, and thank you styliann for your patience.  I know you can't say what I just said, but that's the obvious takeaway.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Of course Vadar.  You assume the risk that if you die you'll stay connected and your corpse will expire.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yup, thanks mendaloth
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i just don't afk in the wrong room.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: is anyone else getting an update flash notice on thedailyshow.com?  every other site i use to watch shows online is working but the comedy central ones
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have a window/alertbox creator plugin for mush
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mush has one built in
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: is the dailyshow website as bad as the colbert website 
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: WORSE!
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: nah jk.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Streck Tech: I've got some code whose goal is basically 'if the user is authorized, output the webpage, but if not, output information that you're not authorized.' I'm curious about how one -should- handle a certain aspect of this sort of if/then. Is it more elegant to go 'if not authorized, say so, exit program', allowing the rest of the code to 'fall through' if the user is authorized, or is it more elegant to add an 'else' and enclose the rest of the code in it instead of allowing the fallthrough?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Streck Tech: I'm not sure what that distinction may be called, if anything, so I'm not sure how to describe it
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Streck Tech: I'm just wondering which is more proper/efficient/whatever
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: which authentication are you using?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i meant what kind of authentication are you using?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: i dont remember what one i did but it was a LOT of work, no QPs at all very dumbed
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im lost
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Streck Tech: It's a custom sort of thingy, basically the person needs to currently be logged onto my MUCK to view the website. It just compares IP information from the MUCK to the IP of the client
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Streck Tech: So the PHP code looks to see if that IP exists on the MUCK and if not, it doesn't give the webpage, just a little 'you can't see this' message
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how many users are there on the muck?  if its small, you can use restricting through htaccess by ipaddress
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Streck Tech: That's not the issue tho, it's a different thing I'm thinking of, I'm making up a pastebin real quick to clarify.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Streck Tech: http://pastebin.com/pChCRLCQ
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Streck Tech: I guess it boils down to 'should I use an else block or not'
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Streck Tech: It's not a pressing matter, since either one will work, but I'm not sure which one is more 'elegant', and I want to make good coding habits.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: it depends, things like Resharper for example suggest the 2nd method over the first to reduce nesting, though i'm not sold on it completely
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: added a third http://pastebin.com/Er0EKw6q
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its a modification of 2 and eliminates stop script
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'd do the redirect
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: a much cleaner solution
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: well i was thinking of the display as a redirect
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Streck Tech: I shoulda clarified further that 'display webpage' isn't linking or redirecting, it's just writing out the rest of the HTML for the page
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Streck Tech: Kinda my bad there
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: streck: what if they are using a web proxy to get to your page?
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Streck Tech: Anyway, I figured there probably isn't a clear-cut answer, but if there's a name for the distinction between the two, and someone knows it, I'd love to know the name so I can look it up on google and research.
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Streck Tech: I don't even know how web proxies work, and neither do the 8 or so other people on my MUCK, so it's not really a consideration XD
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: 0h 20
T3/r6/2012-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Streck Tech: Anyone have experience with the omnibook kernel module and using it to control the fan on Toshiba laptops?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: is anyone here using freenas 8?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Any way in windows to display the input from a mouse?  Sort of like "cat /dev/mouse" would do in Linux?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Bascially, my scroll wheel stopped working.  Wanting to see if it's actually sending anything.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or any other way I can test my scroll wheel?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: is there a way to get your current hitpoint value from the plug in that is already displying your health?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: is there a way to get your current hitpoint value from the plug in that is already displying your health?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can get it via gmcp, yeah.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Has anyone done MCITP DBA or DBD?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<3 DJ Matty Tech: Anyone know why my screen goes blank every once in a while in Mushclient?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: laptop?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i get it too
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: here too
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: always have
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: me too. 
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: i get it in wine
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i scroll mouse to fix it
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<3 DJ Matty Tech: Okay cool, so it is just something Mush client does.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: no, it's not mush, it's your OS.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i get in xp via rdp
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: get it in 7
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<3 DJ Matty Tech: Oh, well it doesn't really bother me. But who doesn't get it then?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: I found that if you sit long enough, the screen saver will pop it out.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<3 DJ Matty Tech: For me it only flashes momentarily, so it isn't a problem
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schneit Tech: Same here, goes back automatically for me. 
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: change your settings on your screen savers.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: that is what I found my problem was.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: then again that might not be what your problem is.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: tribes ascend -- good or bad?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: are room descriptions somewhere in gmcp? I see a "details" section of gmcp.room but it shows up as nil
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: I think so I read something about that .... try lookin at the actual data the gmcp.room contains
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: The details section contains room flags, I don't think the room description is in gmcp
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: well then i think you answered your question
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: what are you looking for exactly?  and are you any good with matching text phrases?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: well I was wanting to route room names and descriptions to a seperate window, but I'm trying to wrap my head around how to pull the descriptions out.  I'm still a newb at this hehe
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: using mudlet client btw
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: should use mush ... the plugins are amazing
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is a way to use WINE to work on Linux and Macs for MUSHclient.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: yea I was thinkin about using mush, how easy is it to develop your own stuff for though?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: pretty easy really
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: the plugins that are packaged with it are pretty bad ass
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Plus, you can look here. http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: anybody good with matching text phrases?  I have some very basic type of questions
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: heh I struggle with them myself :)
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: www.regular-expressions.info/ - this may help :)
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ilushya is agreeing with that Anadorr person again...
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: how would you match "to death!!" if it were to be placed anywhere in the mud output.... Im having very little luck
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: a helpful site I've been using is http://www.regextester.com/ you can type your expression in, type some text in, and it will show you what matches
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: Zider, something like .*to\sdeath!!.*
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: just while this channel is active , perhaps a dumb question but I'll ask anyway. Is there a way that I can have a trigger from the mush activate an electrical appliance ? like maybe putting a sprinkler on a tic timer and using the tics here or 3 moons come up and activate 3 lights in my kitchen ? 
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: Or maybe even "to death\!\!"?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: Tzadkiel, you'll need to build your own controller for that
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: haha Tz that would be awesome
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: what setting you using on that for mud stuff?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: what would I need to google to learn about that ? 
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I'll assume computer controller is gonna be pretty general
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: you'll need at least some basic knowledge of radiotechnics, soldering, programming to start with
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: Zider, I just use the default settings on the site I linked
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I know basic electrics , i can follow a schematic etc and I know a lil programing , I can make triggers 
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: you can just make the mud play really loud sounds
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: the quest timer plays the firsst 4 bars of "flight of the valkaries" atm :)
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: so and you gave me to different version... I get confused why?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: currently im upgrading this clickable consider all window
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: I suggest you start with http://arduino.cc/en/Guide/HomePage
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: it's a bit more then you'd need, but it's an easy environment for start
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: Thankyou !! that is exactly what I was talking about !!
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: .... is he building skynet?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: no..skynet is building him!!
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone help me figure out some syntax on SELECT count(table.column("VALUEA")) AS aCount, count(table.column("VALUEB")) AS bCount
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: LOL She , would build Skynets big sister :). nah just thinking about wider applications and I needed a jumping off point 
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I love the moons clock idea though 
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: stringA and stringB  in the same column want to get an instance count
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: i dunno how that text tool works
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: mySql
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: Jaycar in Australia supports Arduino :) shopping this weekend ! TY again Anadorr!
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raikol Tech: hello? 
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raikol Tech: if i use a trigger for get the name of the mob from room and use a key for killing them
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raikol Tech: it is botting?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: 'ello :)
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: That depends, what exactly do you mean 'use a key for killing them'
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raikol Tech: push f2
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if you initiate the combat yourself by killing that 'key' its not botting
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Nah, you're good.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raikol Tech: i supposed but i had to ask :)
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thats good practice
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raikol Tech: if i do real botting i wouldnt ask :P
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: F8 is my crow key atm .. spellup cast quaff etc but thats it , no moving and no triggers so not botting 
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sometimes asking is a preclude to have intent to bot. *grins*
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raikol Tech: i like to program almost more than to play
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: is the crows F8 to die ! muhahahaa
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: my bot doesn't activate until I press a button, so it's not really classed as a bot
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raikol Tech: numpad for moving 0 for kill :)
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: am gonna stop leveling hard at T1 and start muching round with the plugins etc but I wanna get a good base first 
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: tzadkiel i had to read and reread it. lol
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: good base?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I completely forgive you for not getting my tacky humor , you have passed your sanity test
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: and as for that bit about "what would happen if you had to leave in an emergency", my bot wouldn't continue indefinitely because it's programmed to stop as soon as it reaches T9
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raikol Tech: i have good base with zmud .. mush is new for me
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: I'm new to all these clients, used to play on a proprietary client years ago, but now I see so much possibility with these open ones.. sadly I have no programming/scripting experience so it's been slow
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I've programmed my cat to MUD for me
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raikol Tech: it is a nice cat
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: if I get nuked it'll be a cat-astrophe though
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: yeah, that would be bad fur sure
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: yeah I guess a good base is a character that isn't a light weight and gets taken at least a lil seriously , girl player or not 
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: n that cat is a keeper !
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raikol Tech: auction that cat
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: cauction ?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: guess what my cat's favourite area is!
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: cat sanc ?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alestorm Tech: Bot-Testing area?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: nope!
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: tol , lots to play with ? 
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sskaar Tech: Cat-acombs?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: keyboard
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: chasm and the cat-a-combs =D
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: down on the beach hangin with sandy claws?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: sskaar got it!
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tzadkiel D
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: my new S&D isn't working.. anything I need to do other then remove the old, install the new?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: describe not working
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I click on the mobs name in the GUI, takes me to the area, hunts the mob, when it finds the right one, is see on my screen xm {a triton slave} A Slave Pen... then Sorry Cera, you can't do that.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you are still runnig an old version of extender
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yeah, remove all and install the new combo pack?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: try unzipping it again.. with mush closed
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i only downloaded the new S&D, 2.8.  it wasnt zipped.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what does it mean when i have "*" in my fromuid field in my exits room from aardwolf.db
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: That's a portal.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thanks jhav
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: did you previously have the triple pack installed?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it sounds like it.. i have detection code in there for that
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: download the triple pack and unzip that into your plugins dir
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: where are the portals stored?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: its working..  (excpet the SW it wants me to use for hodgepodge isn't working..  :P)  Thanks WW
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: no problemo! Check the portal mapping if it's trying to use a portal incorrectly
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ahh, its a locked door, nopassdoor.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ahh, its a locked door, nopassdoor.get 179061313 myportalbag
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: winklewinkle, which table holds the portal aliases in aardwolf.db
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: exits i think
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: look for ones with a * in the fromuid column i think
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baron Sengir Tech: WinkleWinkle... I updated S&D yesterday, and I can no longer use xrt to get into my clan hall (nomap room from clan trans)... is there any fix?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i found that locked door and changed the level lock.  :p
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: +1 to that problem too
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the BEST thing to do is get your clan to add the "mappable to clan members flag to your clan hall )not maze) rooms
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes, im looking for the mapping from the custom command say   'mapper portal portal majestic orb'  is there a place where you place 'portal majestic orb' to map to citadel?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: winkle mappable clan members?? can you explain?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: sengir failing that.. you could try hacking a few cexits to take you to places from a room you can see an id from.. or alternate hack a few fake portal entries.. (if i understand the problem is your clan hall is unmappable)
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: winklewinkle there it is.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baron Sengir Tech: in the last version of S&D, clan trans worked to get to chall, and cexits to move through rooms I needed the mapper to know... no longer works after update though (although once I'm in, I can use mapper find and click to move)
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: previously to my joinign a clan.. nearly all clan halls were unmappable so raiders would ahve a hard time.. my clan asked Lasher to add a flag to aard that will let you see the gmcp data for the clan room you're in if you're a member of that clan
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: It's not so much about adding a flag as removing noexplore
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so ask your clan leaders to add that flag (forgot name) to your day-to-day clan rooms so you can move around it using mapper
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: down with scripts! Back to telnet!
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Err, nomap I mean.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i'm confused did this flag change happen on last reboot as a shadow change?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: cause after the update of the mud but before the update of s&d, xrt doh, would use my doh portal and take me to clan recall
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: jhav i beleive it might more specific than that.. it's no-map-unless-it-s-your-clan-room type of flag
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and this flag was added 8ish months ago.. 
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: so it was a change in the way you're processing things in the script then
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: because it worked in the previous version of s&d just fine
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: in your portal dest room.. can you see the room and exits ids with "mapper thisroom" ?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: sec and i'll check
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baron Sengir Tech: I can see a nomap_xxxx one direciton, and can see a number the other direction. room id ix nomap_xxxx
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: eyah nomap as an id meants you can't see the gmcp data, whcih is essential for building a path
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ^yeah
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: then how did it work before to build the path?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baron Sengir Tech: but it worked on the previous version of xrt.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: there were some changes to that area.. it might be as well that there were some subtle mud changes to that.. or if you updated mush form an old version.. mush treats those rooms differently too
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baron Sengir Tech: it worked after a MUSH update before S&D update, but not after S&D update
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well i cna look into it.. but i hgihgly recommend asking your clan leaders about that flag.. get it added to your private clan hall rooms
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baron Sengir Tech: just tried mapper find (room name of my clanrecall) and clicked the result, it worked for that
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'll try and look into the mapper goto logic..gotta go
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baron Sengir Tech: thanks :)
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: GET THT CLAN HALL FLAG!
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it exists
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: My ascii map for mush has gone all black. I've tried reinstalling the plugin as well as exiting out of mush client and opening. Any ideas?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: restart windows :)
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: My mapper map is fine however.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Waffles Tech: okay thank you.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: What's a good program to uninstall XP programs? Add/Remove Programs keeps giving me an error saying another installation is in progress, even though there's not...
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: reboot
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: already done
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: sure something like java or flash isn't trying to update?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: clean install
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: likely updates have screwed up the initial uninstall script
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: there's no other way to remove programs if add/remove isn't working? other than just deleting the directories and changing reg?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: if its at the point where it is causing problems at the OS lvl for removal the registry needs to be fixed. Try that first and see if it allows you to remove the program.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: If the Microsoft installer was used, you can use one of their tools to help uninstall it.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone done MCITP DBA?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: im trying to see if im trying to determine what tests I need, looks like 2 but I coulda swore there was more than that
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: AardMUSH: Why might I be getting a "database is locked" error when trying to do "mapper portal delete 3"?  at the line: dbcheck (db:execute (query))
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Are you using Winkle's plugin?  Have the file open anywhere else (like SQL Browser?)
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try closing MUSH & opening it again...otherwise, try turning off or updating Winkle's
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he had an update recently to help with locking issues
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Actually, just realized the command is #3, and not just 3, so it solves my problem.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Not that it solves THE problem...just mine :P
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, THE problem may not exist then, unless you're getting it doing other (syntactically-correct) things
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, although the plugin prints an error message before the actual error message, so it looks like it's _trying_ to handle it nicely.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: if i want to scp local > remote which switches would i use to ignore existing files and only place new ones?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: You want rsync or lftp, not scp
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thanks
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karinka Tech: hey guys is there any type of client i can get on a mac?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: not sure myself, but help www lists a number of clients at the very end
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I use mush on mac
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I think Mudlet is native, you can also use Mushclient under wine.  I think there is even a pre-configured file on Fiendish's website.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: with wine
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: you can also see what clients others are using by typing 'clients'
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karinka Tech: thanks!! i'll look more into it
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hyrck Tech: is there a way to show current time, or at least my bat life on the iphone client?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: doubt it, iphone app client sucks
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: jailbreak it
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: its easy peasy
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: Does anyone know a few things about graphics cards?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: there's that.. jailbreak for new iphone 5 out yet?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: err 4s escuse me
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: iphone 4s and ipad2 are jailbroken
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: Charlie's working on one.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ipad2 on ios5??
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: with new broadband?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yuppers!
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: LINK ME PLZ???
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i dunno about a new new broadband
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: go to redmondpie.com
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i bought mine in august..
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: factory new
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hyrck Tech: not for a non-tech person like me, never done a jailbreak thanks for the info
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: hyrck its just follow instructions.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hyrck Tech: thanks anyway, guess ill have to pay more attention to bat life b4 starting
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: My cell phone can take pictures at 2048x1536 resolution, but video at only 640x480.  Could a third-party app take higher-res video, or is there some hardware difference between taking pictures and taking video?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: they just make it difficult so you can buy alot more of the crap they sell
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: ?
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azurite Tech: sry..I don't know
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it could be valid hardware limitations...taking stills and motion aren't really the same...notice that if you take a snapshot of something moving quickly, it may be blurry, but taking video of it isn't
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, perhaps
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: limitations could include how quickly the cpu can process the images for writing to flash (the camera imager doesn't "speak" jpeg or mpeg, so the cpu must convert/compress), or it could be how quickly it can write to flash at all
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Might be easier to just search the market, and see if there is anything out there.
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or the imager may only be able to do that resolution by taking a few snapshots and piecing them together
T3/r6/2012-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: any plug in developers here?