T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herpius Derpius Tech: I wonder how I can make my dualwep automatically obtain serial number, to store in my dualwep variable. Anyone know how to set this up for MUSH?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Need a capture off of either invmon or lore/id output
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herpius Derpius Tech: I'm still new to making things in MUSH, but it's something I'd like to learn. Would you be able to help me?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Send to variable, not too difficult, really
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Just need to create the appropriate multiline pattern (for lore/id) to extract the uid
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herpius Derpius Tech: Yeah, that's something I don't know how to do. :P
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Inside a script, have an alias 'dual check', or something, which sends 'lore second' or 'id second' - and have that also enable a trigger
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That newly enabled trigger triggers off '| Id         : #########', storing the # as %1, which you send to a variable, and then disable the trigger
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: why not just grab it from eqdata wkieh...
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, another tag :-) I don't use them, but yeah, if it fits, go for it
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herpius Derpius Tech: Well, my current set up is, I have a trigger that matches You wield (.+) in your off-hand. Which records that output into a variable. Couldn't I just make that trigger send the id %1, and then make another trigger based off of that?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You could have that 'wield ... other hand' trigger send the alias, yes
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: look at help invmon...you can keep track of all your eq in a script friendly fashion
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herpius Derpius Tech: Thanks, I think I got it from here, I'll come back if I need more assistance.
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herpius Derpius Tech: Oooh, yep, need more help. I'll post a note real quick. :(
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herpius Derpius Tech: Posted.
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: ok... what's the problem with it?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herpius Derpius Tech: So far, it's not sending commands. But does that matchline look okay?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herpius Derpius Tech: Multiline triggers are a new thing for me. :(
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: if it's not doing anything it's cause it's not matching
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Herpius Derpius nods.
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herpius Derpius Tech: Wanna get a new computer, saw this. Think it's good for moderate gaming? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0051UWEH6/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=cellphoncomp-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0051UWEH6 The cheaper, the better. Elder Scrolls series, Aardwolf, Ultimas, etc. I'm hoping maybe to be able to play PS1 games (FFVII) too.
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Any computer which is designed and built en masse is likely a pos - head to www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/ to get cheap pc building advice
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herpius Derpius Tech: Thanks, Vakieh. :)
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: -g
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Since when is "The cheaper, the better" ??
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: cf. China
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: eh?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I'm really suprised how scratched disks can be read. I just put a disk in that looks like it's totally scratched to hell and it's reading just fine.
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: even disk scratched on purpose can be often read
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or at least some parts of them
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: yeah I think that's what I'm finding actually, some files are not reading, but some are fine
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though, once badly scratched disk could lead to kernel panic in linux
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: easy if the bottom is scratched. scratched top ruins discs better
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, you are talking about discs, not disks, right?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: yeah CD-ROMS
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Remember in the 90s, when people were scratching CDs, claiming that they were impossible to damage....
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but disc and disk can be used as synonyms (at least so appears in wikipedia)
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: This CD looked so scratched I was just gonna throw it out, then curiosity got the better of me and I'm really suprised to find out that I could pull a bunch of files from it, no problem.
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: just dont scratch the top
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: in mushclient...what is command to stop channels echoing in main window pls?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: chats echo off
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or chat echo off
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: test
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: that worked...and thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averax Tech: I just installed the sharptracker plugin for mush - now certain things are gagged like sac'ing items and the Congrats message from level. Does anyone know how to ungag these things?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Go into the plugin - any of those message which say omit_from_output = "y" change it to "n" or something pretty close to that...
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: find lines with omit_from_output="y"
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averax Tech: ah cool, let me check that out
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: I have a question about that plugin too, it resets all variables everytime I restart mush, anyway to have it save all my info session to session?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that would require script modification
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Cristiana Tech: I'm sorry to bug you all, but I'm trying to help a blind friend who is using a mac to read email. She can't just click on things, but she wants to forward a message to someone else. Does anyone know the keyboard command to forward an email message on a mac book pro and Lion as the software?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coignar Tech: What email client? The default app?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Cristiana Tech: It is, yes.
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Cristiana Tech: Think I got the answer I needed, thanks all!
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coignar Tech: I think it's command+F, but I have no idea
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averax Tech: anyone have any advice on creating an array of portals that I own and an alias for getting the right one out of my bag and entering in Mushclient?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Make an alias that takes a portal object ID, and uses the portal.
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Then make many aliases, one for each portal. Or don't -- if you're using the MUSH mapper, you can dispense with this ste.
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: step*
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averax Tech: why is that/
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averax Tech: is there a way to link portals to the mapper?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: tried mapper help?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: how do i load a previous version of mushclient mapper into my client, it went bonkers and i want to reset it back to a previous backup date
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can't you just delete and rename the files?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averax Tech: replace aardwolf.db - either use your backup in the backup folder and rename it or start from scratch (would not be good)
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: does the game record marriage anniversary?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: No
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: anyone got any stories to offer on what would cause a wifi card to go from Being able to negotiate a network connection to Not being able to?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: Overheated?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Martin Tech: Lightning?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ghosts
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: overheated is a possibility.  so are ghosts.
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: Interference?  Is it sitting next to something with a decent electrical output like a CRT?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Martin sobs in misery.
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Really R. Bigman Tech: or a magnet??
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: no changes to interference patterns that I'm aware of.  using it where I always have.
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: Or an Airborne Warning And Control System (AWACS)
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Martin Tech: I'm gonna go with Ghosts for the win.
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Really R. Bigman Tech: I hate them..
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: overheating though.....I've noticed that my laptop seems to work harder when it's idling then when I'm using it.
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not strictly about a wifi card, but back when DSL was a new technology Earthlink shipped customers an internal dsl modem card instead of an external modem box.  It had a design flaw wherein the weight of the cable was enough to break the connection points just enough to drop connection.
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: so, a wifi card can literally get "fried"?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: anything electronic can, yeah
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: Not strictly about DSL but I remember selling a line of lawnmowers when I was a civilian that one in three had a safety shutoff cable that ran through the mower deck that was severed the first time you turned on the mower blades
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: huh.  well, the whole set runs hot when it idles.
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: Excessive heat breaks down electrical components quicker than normal
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: moisture, heat, and electrical surges (ie, lightning strikes) are the axes of evil in the electronics world.
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: guess I probably should have bothered to run down which process was hammering the machine whenever the screen shut off.
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: I work on an airplane that has a data bus keyboard directly under an openable window.  Every time it rains half the plain goes berserk cuz that thing got wet. :P
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: Plane**
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: heh.
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I think I was on that flight.
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone have a runto script for mush?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Martin shrugs in response to Ol' Dirty Fiendish's question.
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define the parameters of "runto script" in this context?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I don't mean aut-run P
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: lol, was a C-130, so I hope you weren't on that flight.  I hate flying on them.
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: areaname fires alias to mapper runto roomid#
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: is there a generic tool that can be used to test if the wifi hardware is fried?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaisaki Tech: does anyone know how to remove this blue label thing?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: blue label thing?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: android phone?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaisaki Tech: yup
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: If its on a beer, and you can't immediately peel it off, the beer is too warm
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: press and hold down on it
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaisaki Tech: thank you very much
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: hey abelinc, is your spellup script up to date?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: and i heard that some mac homepages were losing availability, is there a backup site for your tf scripts for aard?
T3/r7/2012-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: oh. nvm. your finger is updated
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: would the mapper in mush help with an area like realm of infamy?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: not really, it's all random exits
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loud&Proud Broud Tech: not really since that is a maze
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Out of the box, the mapper is useless for mazes, really
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: finding it really hard to find my cp mob there
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: If all else fails, where for a mob in the same room and hunt
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: someone give me the "for dummies" rundown of how the mapper works.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: "Magic"
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Martin Tech: What Slodhian said.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite THWAPS Jhav for being a moron.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: the room my mobs is in is a common room unfortunately
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite thanks Slodhian heartily.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "for dummies" version is "finger fiendish, go to his site, click wiki, click included plugins, featured plugins, gmcp driven world mapper" :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's some great info on fiendish's wiki for the client
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: does gmcp help with mazes?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the mapper wiki page has a link to hosch's howto
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't autosolve them like it used to with atcp, but it gets rid of the need for "drop 1 light", "drop 2 lights", etc to keep track of rooms
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: ahh ty
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: (i have been dropping lights)
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: atcp's removed now, right?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, ATCP was replaced with ATCP2, also known as GMCP
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: nod, still shows up in protocols though
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: using search and destroy plugin for a campaign & it takes me to area but not mob...any ideas as to why pls ? (could easily be user error)
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav smacks Mottle out of his boots with a sign reading "EXPLORE !!"
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: yep...doing that...I just thought plugin autohunted em
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: you cant... hunt cp mobs
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: was pretty sure I used the plugin in for campaigns before
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it does, xcp <target number> takes you to area and run autohunt, then do where and xm and you can type go <room number>
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: it does a hunt-trick, yes. not autohunt
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, I meant hunt-trick
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: will have a look and thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: so... I just updated my mushclient to the latest version a long time... and I keep getting "Trigger function "chats" not found or had a previous error."
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: any clues?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh, heh, restarting solved it, nevermind
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: when in doubt, reboot lol
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah...
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: now to figure out how to get rid of the minimap window...
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: just disable it haha
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: the plugin, altoogether
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: ah, under plugins. thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: okay... now, is there any way for there to be a scroll bar on the main window?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: is there. all the way at the right hand side ------------->
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: ^it is already there
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: if you are asking about moving the scroll bar, no i dont think you can do that
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: for some reason, it's there on my communication log window, but not the main window...
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: the communication log window has its own scroll bar
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: ohhhhh
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WAAAAY to the right ;-)
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: that one
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: sigh
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: seems like it would be better if the scroll bar was next to the main window... so no way to do that? (I prefer having the main window on the left)
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: no. i dont think mushclient was designed with miniwindows in mind. hence the scrollbar on the right was meant to be the only scroll bar
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: that's my guess anyway
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, this is covered in the MUSHclient FAQ on fiendish's site where you get the client (the wiki tab)
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh. I got it from the aardwolf site
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: still struggling with S&D plugin with cps...required room exists but go 0 takes me to area start only...and go 1 etc doesnt work
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: just use go?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: then if it's the wrong room use nx
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: just get no destination exists
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: otherwise I think maybe you can click on the roomnames
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: but quests still work perfectly
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: you've got the latest version right?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: yep...can do mapper find for room and click and works perfectly
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: this is old version...but was using current yes
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: yeah, it's just that a couple of months back it broke and only worked for quests, everything else worked though
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: but something to do with an extra space being appended after reboot
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: if you have an old version try getting the latest from the site
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Maybe his computer was zero-day exploited
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Starling, do you deny the existence of zero-day exploits?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Your mom was a zero-day exploit
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I deny the existence of zero
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: It gets to the stage where you are just making yourself look stupid with your continual mockery of me Starling
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's Starling's job
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: btw, your mom
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You're the one who went on the long-winded rant about zero-day exploits, I just wanted to explore all the options
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: You need some new material Starling
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Please, new material ruined the Star Wars saga.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I go with what's old and proven
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: So a bit like your mom then?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Sort of.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Woah...just installed Air Display on my iPad...I now have a touchscreen 3rd monitor
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Telemvas Tech: browserdebatego.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: browser-talk is for boring geeks
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Telemvas Tech: OOH! snobs. I like you guys already.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: i like sarcastic people the most!
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Telemvas Tech: what about pyrating? I'm an aspiring cracker, mostly working with adobe stuff.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Pyrating sounds like evaluating python scripts to me.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Gyrating!
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Telemvas Tech: I actually (and don't rip my throat out) prefer xp to ubuntu.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: old-timer, xp has more than 10 years
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Telemvas Tech: I know, that's given me time to learn how to manipulate it down to its every last detail.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: So, uh, how do you reinstall broken boot loader on XP?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Telemvas Tech: got your discs?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: every last detail huh?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: is there a list of room id's for area entrances somewhere?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Telemvas Tech: I'll give you a screenshot, I've modded my box to run XP like 7.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Telemvas Tech: Cizra, you got your install discs?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: telemvas, so how do i run XP in 128MB memory?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am Bender; Please insert girder.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: slowly
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: *chuckles*
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Can you mod XP to run on less memory? :P
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: xp requires at least 64mb, recommended : 128
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yeah, http://winhistory.de/more/386/xpmini.htm.en
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What is the best Windows OS?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: I think we complained about the outrageous amount of RAM it needed too :)
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Telemvas Tech: if you want to actually run it at a speed that's bearable, run XP slim.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Wait till the next gen will need 16 GB of ram to run stuff.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Telemvas groans loudly.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: No, I don't have the install disks.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: 3.5 or 5.25?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: *faints*
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Telemvas Tech: izra do you have access to another comp with a disk burner?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yep
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Telemvas Tech: What about a torrenting client?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Well, you could use an 8 inch floppy.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Telemvas Tech: What is this, the dark ages?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: I'm still amazed
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Did you know you can get even more information on a 5 inch floppy than you can an eight inch floppy?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Telemvas Tech: wow, lots of supes comin in today.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: No, the Dark Ages was when you had to Fox-It to get messages to people.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Telemvas Tech: bellowlaugh
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Telemvas Tech: cizra, i recommend downing uTorrent.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Well, you could punch cards instead of floppy disks.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien rapidly nods twice at Telemvas, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: It's the norm for the Tech channel, you gotta learn to deal with it.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Why don't you guys take it to tells?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Telemvas Tech: I remember when you'd have to fip switches on a foot long stick for 1's and 0's
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: How about the use of an abacus?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Telemvas Tech: now that that debacle's been filed away, amuse me with your questions.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AardGuide Marchetti Tech: can anyone tell me how I can get commands to stack using mushclient? In zmud I could use the # character, is there a similar feature in mush?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: you need a plugin for that
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AardGuide Marchetti Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: there should be one in mushclient site
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: AardGuide Marchetti nods.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: (help
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: (help:pluginslist to direct link there)
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: AardGuide Marchetti thanks Slodhian heartily.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Ok very wierd - Mushclient crashed.  I restarted and the background image on the main window (the default one) is gone.  I just have the grey background.  If I resize the window to be smaller it comes back any ideas what might cause this is Mushclient?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: havent heard of that before. have you tried resetting already?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah like 10 times :)
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: as in resetaard? hmm
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It's happened before and fixed itself after restarting a whole bunch of times.  I'm on XP and I see the file in the Mushclient folder
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well just tried that doesn't do it either
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: the command resetaard usually fixes things. beyond that, there's many possible reasons to narrow down. corrupted files maybe?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Just came back - no clue what is causing it.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It seems there is a broken window somewhere when I right click it says something like "Thanks for right clicking" but it's not any of the visible windows which bring up that menu
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: can you bring it to the foreground if you rclick on it?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Nah there is nothing visible, wheN i do a trace it says its: Aardwolf_New_Connection script
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but is seems, when I get by accident in the same room, then I should wait for other player to leave and then shoot
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herpius Derpius Tech: In MUSHclient, could you use as many IF statements as you want, or just one?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herpius Derpius Tech: Also, anyone know what == would mean, when using IF statements?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herpius Derpius Tech: <- Forgot. :(
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: == means equal to.  Might not actually be necessary in LUA, and if that were true then you could just use = instead.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herpius Derpius Tech: Is there a way I can make MUSHclient use a command for another plugin? "go 0" is just giving me a list of goals, as opposed to running back to the start of the area.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herpius Derpius Tech: Er, from, not for.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is there a plugin somewhere for mush that uses a lua table element for the where clause in an sql statement
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: do you know if those newer notebooks still have the hickups when changing clock rates automatically? considering to buy one pentium b940 notebook.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define hickup
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McBeth Tech: in aardmush I have a plugin wiondow that has moved up & I cant reach the top to rsize...any ideas how I move the window? (right click & plugin reload havent worked)
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: maybe resetaard
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McBeth Tech: done a few restartes as well
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which plugin?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: resetaard will only work in plugins that listen for it
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is it Winklewinkle's plugin?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McBeth Tech: its the winkle S&D window...but part of the GUI extender plugin
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crashed Lumina Tech: mcbeth if you go into window restore, does that work?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's kind of silly to let a miniwindow get dragged off the screen
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is something you need to talk to Winklewinkle about.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McBeth Tech: it didnt fiendish...gave that a go to :)
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: try xset reset gui
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McBeth Tech: that worked...many thanks all
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Telemvas Tech: any nerds around?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not with an attitude like that
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Nah only cool people MUD, but seriously better to ask the specific question :)
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Is there any way in the tt++ mapper to designate rooms as norecall/noportal?
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Don't think so Ped, you can add flags to the mapper - but it doesn't do anything with them by default.
T3/r7/2012-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie flags Mendaloth.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: is there some to go for a primer on creating aliases in mushclient?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a primer on EVERYTHING MUSHclient on his site
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you're on the MUSH part, click wiki
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's the one that created the aard MUSHclient package, and his site is the home for it (with newer updates than aard's website)
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: checking now
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catrin Tech: is there a way in MUSHclient to make the output buffer size to stay at 100 please?  It keeps resetting to 166 without me even closing the program
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobal Tech: i tried aardwolf mush client a day earlier and now with my old client i see <MAPSTART>, <MAPEND> and things like that, how can i turn them off?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: tags off
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kobal Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: unless you actually use some of them in your old client
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: in which case type tags for a list, and just turn the ones you don't need off, i.e. tags map off
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averax Tech: When creating custom exits, do you set them from the room you want the exit to or the room you want the exit from?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averax Tech: sorry this is a mushclient question
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: the room you want it from.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averax Tech: and it will link the room that you are going to - to the room you are coming from?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: yep
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averax Tech: cool, thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: you stand in the room you want the cexit marked in, and put in the command, and it will execute it, and mark the final room as the "destination"
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averax Tech: awesome, thanks - I'll start using that
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wish someone would wipe my ISP off the face of the map
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: Cause that would make it _easier_ to be online? *laugh*
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but more reliable
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RikiTiki Takihisis takes a large shotgun and starts blowing holes in Tigernuts's lagging ISP.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: did that help any?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not an issue of lag
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: an issue or random disconnections every 20 minutes or so
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you complain, they "fix" it, it's fine for a few weeks, then does the same thing again. repeat ad nauseam
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: cable?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: vanilla adsl2+
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mardus Tech: is there any php pro online?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Often the 100 amateurs here can answer the questions just as well if you ask it.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mardus Tech: how to control that 50 input boxes is filled before submit :p
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: "are filled" only, not "is filled"  -- the several seconds delay caused by bad grammar is likely to annoy those able to answer discredit, and cause them to not bother servicing a sloppy amateur unable to speak proper englisghsay you 
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: nvm, garbage in line, mischan
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mardus Tech: dont bother to answer then
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: Hi, I had a question about plugins. Am I right here?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that wasn't a question about plugins, so I would have to say you are not right.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: you asking in the right place
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: you are*
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you wish for help, it's best to just ask the question
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: O.k. thanks :). My problem is I downloaded plugins and added them successfully to the client. For an unknown reason they didn't show up. Is there something I need to type in to activate them?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: also, while we'll direct you to the proper channels when necessary, nobody's going to bite your head off for a minor faux pas like using the wrong channel.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Except me, I will bite your head off even if you do use the correct channel
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: They were plugins from 2009 (client 3.65). Could they be incompatible?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: depends on the plugin, I think, but that might be a plausible reason.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what do you mean by 'they didn't show up'?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: not every plugin has an extra window that goes with it, it depends what it does...
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: I added quite a few plugins, and the video showed windows
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: like bigmap
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: btw is there al ist of compatible working plugins somewhere?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Are you talking about the old plugins?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: bigmap is an "old" plugin, if 2009 is defined as old
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=8780
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: This is a website you can find some of the older plugins.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: do those older plugins work for the new mushclient?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can install them without problems.  They might not operate like you want, though.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You will need to use Statmon I think.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: Thanks for the awsome support. Is there a list of newer plugins? And where do I get Statmon?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Haerlton: You can look at finger fiendish
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: He doesn't have any plugins there but thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Haerlton: It is the Aardwolf MUSHclient setup.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The plugins are in the download.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: I checked out the website, I only found the mushclient.zip, no plugins Website: http://www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf/
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the zip has muschlient, prepackaged with all the plugins.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what is it about the Roland Juno Stage that means i can't get a second hand one :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: ok will try
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Try this one....http://www.frostblade.net/aardwolf/plugins/
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I do not know if they work or not.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: nah, didn't work. I tried getting the campaign window to work but without any results
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: I'll list my steps quick to see if I made mistakes
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: 1. copied code 2. pasted it into inventory 3. saved in mushclient/worlds/plugins/aardwolf 4.opened client 5. file-->plugins 6. add 7. choose plugin 8. type command which should open window.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: Where there any mistakes in that?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What happened when you did step 8?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: in my case it was cp check. It told me the outpoot that i'm not ina campain, but it didn't open a window
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: output*
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: would running in compatability mode for windows xp jelp?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: help*
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mush is already native to and compatible with the latest windows versions.  It would not help.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: what plugin are you using, anyways?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: it's likely a problem with the plugin, not mush.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: the aardwolf campaign noter from nick gammon
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what's the question?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: Hi :). I was trying to get the campaign noter to apear
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: are you on a campaign?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: no, but it should nevertheless open the window
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: says who?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: go take a campaign
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: according to the xml file
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe you didn't interpret the file correctly
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: take a campaign and if it still doesn't work come back :)
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: ok will try. Thanks for the support, I'll call it a night. Its still playable without the plugin. thanks and good night :)
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Anyone using mushclient and bast plugins in wine on linux? I'm getting errors loading spellup after upgrading mush to the latest version
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes I am
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what error? and does the error go away if you restart mushclient?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Seems to be trying to back up it's DB files, and failing to create a temporary file
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I see 'C:\Program Files\MUSHclient-r1627\logs\\stats.db : upgrading database from 1 to 7' first, followed by various lines of backup, then...
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: oh ps., is spellup a plugin, because if it is my plugins are working
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I reported a bug like that to Bast a long time ago. not sure what he's doing about it. http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/issues/detail?id=130
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Haerlton: what?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Do you mean the spellup command? Maybe maybe not. See 'help spellup'
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: Is the spellup command a plugin or is it built in?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: It gives the error '...es\MUSHclient-r1627\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua\sqlitedb.lua:189: bad argument #1 to 'lines' (C:\Program Files\MUSHclient-r1627\bastmush_temp_file.txt: No such file or directory)'
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Lytebane you could try creating that file :)
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure what he makes a temp file
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what he makes a temp file for
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but perhaps your wine setup has a permissions lock?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: Is the spellup command a plugin or is it built in?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: could be either, depending on what plugins you're using
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the spellup command is both.  Aard has the command, the plugins largely duplicate and extend it.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there is a spellup command built into the game, but that doesn't mean it couldn't also be used by a plugin
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: ok no, it's not being used by a plugin :(
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: Whatever now I'm really calling it a night, I have a database and network test tomorrow.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Thanks, Fiendish. The file was there in the old copy of mushclient. Copied it across and it loads now.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I have the file too. it's empty.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I can't imagine what it gets used for
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Mine just has '1 file(s) copied.' in it. Seems to be capturing stdout for a 'md logs\db_backups' command then for a 'copy /Y' of stats.db, then checking whether the commands succeeded.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: seems completely unnecessary to capture that to a file
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but maybe I did something special
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Probably. Anyway, all working now :) and completely microsoft free, feels like my PC breathed a sigh of relief
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What OS are you using then Lytebane?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Mint linux at the moment
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ah, I've heard it's got a nice set of menus. I'm using Debian Squeeze myself..
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Anyone know how to restore the contents of the System menu in Gnome 2?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I only have Help and About GNOME left.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Mint's based on Ubuntu, with a modified gnome 3 which looks more like gnome 2. There's also a version based on debian too, but I've not tried that one.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: If I wanted Gnome 3, I'd use it... but I don't see any good reason to upgrade from Gnome2 at the moment.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm also against vegetarian food that looks like meat dishes. :P
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I actually quite liked gnome 3 once I'd got used to it...tried Fedora before Mint, but several frequently used programs kept segfaulting so I decided to give Mint a go. Seems a lot more stable on my machine.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Didn't know Fedora had segfaults.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Well, you could install the DE/Menu setup of your choice on any OS, in theory.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Any distro, I mean.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: It did on my machine...chrome, firefox, thunderbird and gimp would segfault on load, bringing up the Fedora error reporting tool, but strangely continue running afterwards.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hmm, maybe it restarted automatically.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Which version of Fedora was that?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I prefer Fedora to Mint, currently, though I would like to eventually move to a rolling distribution
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also I hate that every time I want to install a kernel update it also tries to reinstall dracut and plymouth-scripts
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but that's a minor annoyance
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Fedora 17. With 16, it did segfault on chrome, but after installing (clean install) with 17, seemed to do it on other stuff too.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hm, OK.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What are dracut and plymouth-scripts, Fiendish?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: packages that I don't need or want
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: The only other annoyance I had with fedora was it occasionally updating the kernel but not the nvidia binary drivers. Just have to select the previous kernel in grub for a day or so until they catch up though, so only a minor problem.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: dracut configures initrd, which I don't even use
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: does debian still bring out its updates slowly or have things gotten better over the years?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Pleiades: your question doesn't make sense. debian has three different distribution chains
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I am talking about the earlier versions... there were always long waits inbetween the new distros
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: eg potato and woody (2.2, 2.3)
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Pleiades: http://www.debian.org/releases/
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: testing and unstable get updates all the time
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I'm looking at Debian and Ubuntu at the moment... need a new fileserver for home
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: most people who use debian at home use Testing
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: You might just want the server versions, though. GUI stuff might be unnecessary for a server.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Ok, stupid question fo the day. Downloaded an ISO, got it all pretty and ready to go, downloaded Virtual CloneDriver, tried to mount it, did not appear in computer menu. Downloaded Alcohol 52%, installed, tried to mount it, no visible drive. Set Alcohol to add a second drive. Nothing. Finally I go to the Computer Management, and find that all 4 cd drives (including the physical one) have drivers...with little fucking exclamation points. Update driver says my driver is up to date, properties says for all 4 that windows can not load the device driver for this hardware, and it may be corrupt or missing (Code 39). There is also one other, unknown device in the 'Other' category I can't update. Anyoen got a clue?
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: holy spam batman.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: tl
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: dr
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: hi dexx
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: asoth, maybe you should use a real utility like ultraiso
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Sorry, wanted to present the entire problem
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: board tech, note write.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: pleiades, its not dexx, its asoth
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: takihisis, or maybe his problem is simple , he wants to emulate a cdrom drive using an iso image, programs like ultraiso are made for that
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Friend) VampireDude has netbook.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: or at the very least... give us a little warning.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: takihisis just set your screen reader to not read channels with more than X characters
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alain Johns Tech: Also, public channel. ;)
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: simple or not, if he has a question that's going to consume 5 lines of my entire screen, he could toss it in a note, then say "hey note read XXX"  and I'm NOT blind, nor do i use a screen reader.  Thanks for assuming.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: takihisis, well, it seems like for your level of irateness that you use either a screen reader or drugs
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Done
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i felt like giving you the benefit of the doubt, and assuming it was a screen reader...
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: take it elsewhere, vampiredude
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: did I say I was irate?  no need for personal attacks.  all i said was it was spammy, and offered an alternative.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: pleiades gladly, mind asking taki to do the same, they're still going
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RikiTiki Takihisis rolls her eyes, disgusted.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: Did Starling buy VD's char to use as an alt? *mutter*
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: get off my channel.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RikiTiki Takihisis grins evilly at Ol' Dirty Fiendish.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: both of you
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Don't bring me into this.  Go take care of your ugly brat.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Takhisis, for you and everyone else, please read 5897 on th4e tech board
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WudeTone Tech: How do I get a semicolon into an alias - I am using the MUSHclient
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: use 2
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: use ;;
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: ;;
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't use semicolon, just hit enter
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless you mean an aard alias instead of MUSH alias
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WudeTone Tech: I will try those out, thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to send a ; to the MUD, you can either start the entire line with a ;, in which case it'll ignore ALL ;s for the rest of the line, or you can double each ; in the line
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WudeTone Tech: the double 
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WudeTone Tech: the double ; worked
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WudeTone Tech: Also, the ; at the beginning of the line worked.
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, which is more convenient depends on how many ;s you plan to have in the line
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WudeTone Tech: It's always good to know more than one way, as sometimes one of the methods are not possible for whatever reason
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I can't imagine that being true
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: help
T3/r7/2012-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Blargh
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Is the ; at the beginning a setting in MUSH somewhere?  I thought I used to be able to use ; for gtell way back when.
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: it's a Mushclient setting
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I mean a toggleable one.
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could change MUSH's separator char
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And nvm, I still can.  I probably just never noticed because I probably never used a semicolon later in the line at the same time I used ;; for gtell
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: Hi, I started up my mush client and the minimap didn't appear, any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: already fixed
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averax Tech: anyone know how to copy and paste a long note without having aard disconnect me/
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Popa Tech: Don't paste it all in one go?
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: is there a good mushclient plugin that displays a con all in a miniwindow?
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: haven't heard of one yet. But maybe someone has written one for personal use.
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: ok no problem, RSI is crippling me lol
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Espol Tech: How do I get rid of the funny stuff in {} that comes before things like channel messages?
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: you turned on tags
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Espol Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: a good tutorial for mobprogs?
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: Hi again, I was wondering what programming language aardwolf was writen in
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: C I think with some of it written in Lua
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: GOals and mobprogs are mostly Lua, I think the spells/skills and such are slowly being switched to Lua, but not sure on that either.  Think there is a help file somewhere
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: Hi, Haerlton here, the plugins work now, thanks for your help yesterday.
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Anyone use an auto-practicer script?
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Is there a catchall for area creation?
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a catchall what?
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Nvm just remembered there is a section on the wiki. I meant like a site with all the information gathered
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you mean like build.aardwolf.com?
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the wiki's section, build.aardwolf.com, help area creation
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: I'm just interested and was wondering where to start reading. Thanks.
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: with the DoAfter command in lua does mush multithread
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averax Tech: anyone know of a way to recover unsaved aliases and triggers in mushclient when it crashes or do I have to redo them all?
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: redo
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, you two will be confusing :P
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averax Tech: rename Averan
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: didn't you have an Abelink friend or something?
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Abel is on my flist
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: I'm going to rename to averay, the y looks more like an x
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: Hi, it's haerlton from yesterday
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haerlton Tech: Just wanted to say all plugins are working fine now. Thanks for your help.
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not sure who was helping you, but glad to hear everything's working nicely now :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: is there a way to make a command repeat itself x times in an alias?
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: add the same command on a newline as many times as you need to? 
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: #10 foo in zmud
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: sorry I'm using mushclient. I normally would repeat it but I have to keep changing it
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: I use MushClient too, not found anything on the mushclient website at the moment
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: It's definitely possible. There's details on the mushclient site about how it's done. I had the page bookmarked but I've lost it. You should be able to find it with the search in the forums
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: Indeed there is Lytebane, this *may* be the one, try it - http://www.mushclient.com/forum/?id=8473
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: thanks very much.  I will have a look. It's not the end of the world but it would just make my life a bit easier if I could do it
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: brilliant, I will check it out! :)
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: that's interesting.  I didn't know you could have things like loops in aliases
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: No problem, I hope its the one :)
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: Yes, there isn't much you can't do with mushclient
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can have anything in an alias that you could have outside an alias
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: L
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: that was very easy.  I just copied it and imported it via the clipboard as an alias. Everytime I want to repeat something all I do is #n command. I've discovered he also has a plugin http://www.mushclient.com/plugins/Repeat_Command.xml Will this alias I imported disappear when I quit the programme?  Is it safer to install it as a plugin?
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: I just doublechecked. the alias does seem to be there with the rest of them. It just looks very short and strange. I'll assume its permanent
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: yes its meant to be there
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: that's great.  Thanks again for all your help, everybody :) 
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alain Johns Tech: Anyone know how to make a miniwindow in MUSH?
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lots of tutorials on that available
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neoh Tech: off
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: dropping my laptop worked for me.  gave me lots of mini windows.
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alain Johns rolls on the floor laughing at Martini & Tyebald's antics!
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alain Johns Tech: Win.
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.mushclient.com/search.htm...click search, type miniwindows :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alain Johns thanks you heartily. 
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: sigh... after replacing my graphics card, my system still keeps crashing randomly (but a lot less)
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: is it overheating?
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: this time with no bluescreen, so I don't know how to figure out what's wrong
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: How would I check?
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: download a free prog to verify the onboard temps .. one sec ill grab a link
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: try this - http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: Run it and check your temps, just to be on the safe side
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: no problem :) 
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: another program trying to get me to install yahoo toolbar. heh
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, it's all below 50...
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: looks ok then from temps point of view
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catrin Tech: in the MUSHclient, is there a way to have the "wrap output at column number" stay at what you set it please?  despite saving world, it reverts back to 166 on a regular basis - even if i don't quit the program.
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: can you paste in the bluescreen error code? its a bunch of 00x00 looking numbers
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I don't even get a bluescreen this time. The screen goes white or light blue, then the monitor loses signal
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: and I hear the fans going from medium to low
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: Is this a new graphics card you have installed? what OS, graphics card are you using
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: previously I had bluescreens that said something like atieclxx or something, then I replaced my graphics card with something from nvidia
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: new one is GT 430
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I'm on vista
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I wonder if it has anything to do with the old ati stuff left behind. Can't seem to get rid of it
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: It is quite likely to be honest. Did you uninstall the old ATI progs/drivers before installing youe new card?
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I couldn't, sadly
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: because it keeps dying before finishing booting up
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: kept
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: tried to manually remove the stuff, but can't seem to do so
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: ok, how old was your old vid card
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: nearly 3 years old
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: HD 4850 or something like that
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: radeon
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: Ok try this - Its a driver cleaner, it may help, http://www.guru3d.com/category/driversweeper/
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: thats about the best I can do without seeing the machine :)
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: You're welcome
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmmm... for some reason there are no download links there...
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: http://downloads.guru3d.com/Guru3D---Driver-Sweeper-%28Setup%29_d1655.html
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: I think that's it
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh, heh, I saw the part in red "Attention - Guru3D Driver Sweeper has been discontinued as such you will not find any download links here any longer."
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ati will have one
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmmm... will try that too
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: Sorry about that :) I used to use that one
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: Ah, check this page - support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/GPU57RemoveOldGraphicsDrivers.aspx
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: ah. Thanks. Actually I already did all those steps listed, but there seems to be some ATI stuff lingering around.
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: Well if you ran the official ATI uninstaller, then by rights, all of the associated drivers and registrations should be removed, in which case its likely that any remaining items are not to blame for the problem you are experiencing (at least from my experience)
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: When does the monitor go blue/white? At boot, during boot or once windows has loaded, and if so when
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: there are still some processes in my task manager labelled amd something or ati something though... Strangely
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh, so far most have been in my browser... but most of my time is there...
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: have you tried running msconfig and disabling them in the startup tab
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: once after coming back from sleep mode
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I've never seen my graphics card temp go above 50 since I started checking, so I don't think it's overheating or anything
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I hope I didn't damage something while swapping out my old card...
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: I wouldn't have thought you have caused damage to your card given the symptoms. Have you tried running msconfig and disabling them in the startup tab?
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmmm... no. What should I disable?
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: disable anything that points to ATI, it will be obvious if you take a look, just uncheck the boxes to prevent any ATI progs from loading
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh, you're right. There's a startCCC in there
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wait, you have a nvidia card now?
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because you could just, you know, uninstall the ati programs and drivers
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: that's what I did
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and they still load?
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: but there seem to be remnants
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I uninstalled it from the programs and features thing, but it still left a lot of crap behind
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok. you probably want to get rid of the services as well
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i hate catalyst with a passion
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah... everytime I get something, I discover a while later that there's still something left.
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: amd cards would be actually nice if it wasn't for that shitty app
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: for most of my old card's life, CCC didn't even want to load properly
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: always laggy as hell
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: Seems like its worth disabling, reboot and see if things improve
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: my new card is pretty pathetic in terms of power though. sigh
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: which card?
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: my new card is a GT430
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: old one was a radeon HD 4850
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, low-power media card :\
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, even the size of the card looked so puny in comparison.
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: gtx2x series is quite cheap
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: at least it was easy to fit it
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: the old card was a pain to get out of the case
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my gtx260 runs max payne in HD, high settings, antialiasing and other eye candy
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: only missing dx11
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mine runs quake at 1280x1024, so i'm happy
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, I'll miss my old card... but this just has to last for another 2 years before I get a new set
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: or maybe 3 years, if I take another year
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so anyway, it's cheap to buy a top card from 2-3 years ago and it'll run all the games just fine
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: and the most graphics-intensive thing I will be likely to run in the next two years is sots2, if they ever fix the problems with that.
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: looking at msconfig, I see a lot of junk from other things too... what's this google update thing anyway? I don't remember google having to update anything, or me putting it there...
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: as long as you have a good idea of what is shown in msconfig, just disable the things you dont need, you can always re-enable them, it could speed up your PC too
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: also check for non ms services
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: another thing you can try is to open control panel>administrative tools>services - then disable the ATI drivers/progs from in there
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can disable services from msconfig as well
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: Yup, either way works
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and the idea behind google updater is that you don't see anything update. very convenient imho
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, I'm finding a lot of fishy things in here... citrix online, GoToAssist? Pretty odd.
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: V strange.
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Citrix is remote application launching software
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: My company uses it, we can load up acrobat and other things from anywhere with it.
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmmm... that doesn't sound good
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's a virtualization app
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What Dagnir said.
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Citrix technically runs applications on a server, and displays only the video on your workstation/mobile device.
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmmm... might as well disable it then, right? Not like I'll ever control this remotely
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, don't
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: rule #1: if you're not sure what it's for - don't touch it
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: ah.
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: unless, you know, it looks malicious
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ditch it all
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrokenBot Covenant Tech: guys anybody had problem when global quest win announcements dissapeared?
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrokenBot Covenant Tech: global channel is on
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when there are integrated and discrete gpu, should the gpu handle the media player or the integrated
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: discrete should usually be faster, I guess
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: that also depends on which one supports hardware decoding
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the combo box is greyed I can't set it to gpu
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: then there doesn't seem to be a choice at all )
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: has anyone written a script to convert gq ranges into a more readable format?
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: design one and I'll make it happen.
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: fix in 80 chars plz, some people still need that.
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: fit
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think just doing it strictly by level range, rather than in 3 sets of level range, would be good
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: sorting by level range would be nice, and a total line at the bottom
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: it's just raw data right now
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: can it generate based on player-specific information, or is that too time-consuming?
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and if it could take a level parameter and only show ranges for that level, that would be great too
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: might just go back to totally random anyway.
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's not already totally random?
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: no, a full range has to finish before it starts over.
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he means vs cyclic
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ah
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: it is "random from those not yet run this cycle"
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: thought you meant any level range, rather than predefined ones
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: add % to know how much chances you have for GQ
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, 2 downsides to totally random...1) nobody will believe your statistics, and will cry for some unfairness...(2) it totally undoes gq ranges, which you just coded
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, % would be in the total line i mentioned before
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zibest's level range got called 6 times today, it's not random!!!!
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: there's typically only five ranges I'm interested in....the three I currently qualify for, and the next two ranges beyond that.  that, plus the total remaining in the cycle.
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: gq ranges is a dump of the array, it took  5 minutes to code.
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: anyway, back to work.
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: does anyone know how many gq ranges there are offhand?
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type gq range?
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: then i'd need to count :P
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err ranges
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: paste into excel or text editor }:>
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: 49, according to gq ranges
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Can just hover over in MUSH, and it gives the line number
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm, i get 50, leinei...
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Of course, then you have to subtract, and add one
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it gives the relative line number...
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: sorry, 50
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nod
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: was hovering over the wrong line, evidently
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i don't use mush though :P
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pasting into excel or text editor would start at 1, no math necessary :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, that's what i did
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__________ Jilted Tech: ok so how do i make a trigger that works when i'm logging in?
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__________ Jilted Tech: bc setting a trigger for "Password:" to send my password isn't working
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__________ Jilted Tech: don't everyone answer at once, please I can't keep up
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Password: sends some Telnet stuff that makes the prompt invisible, I think.
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: What Cizra said
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__________ Jilted Tech: right that's not the problem I'm having
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: trigger in which client?
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: What are you using?
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__________ Jilted Tech: aard mushclient
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Then there's an auto-login option.
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: Easy automatic login option
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__________ Jilted Tech: it either doesn't send the password or it sends the wrong thing
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Did you really just whine due to not getting an answer in under 60 seconds?
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__________ Jilted Tech: Thanks for your help Vak
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As it so happens, I know the exact answer, but I'm gonna wait for a minute or se before I comment it... :-P
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__________ Jilted Tech: someone care to help me figure out the autologin stuff then since I apparently cannot
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I'd go with the auto-login in mush.  but if you're rolling your own trigger, you probably want something along the lines of not triggering on a new line.
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: jilted, do you have Diku-style selected?
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__________ Jilted Tech: I have no idea abe. I've not tinkered too much w this client
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> connecting...
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a spot for username, password, and MUD type...
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__________ Jilted Tech: got it
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__________ Jilted Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thoaril Tech: how can i turn the echo off so that chat messages only show up in the comm log?
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thoaril Tech: got it.. thx
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thoaril Tech: off
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averax Tech: anyone know of a good repop trigger, publically available for mushclient?
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is an old one sort of in the forums. It would need to updated for it to be used.
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averax Tech: I tried using that one and it crashed my client on import
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averax Tech: was hoping there was a more up to date one
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=6565
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averax Tech: that's the one that I tried
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaisaki Tech: how do you edit alias on the,android?  i click it but i cant seem to edit it
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try holding down on it
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a "long click" in android terms
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaisaki Tech: of course.  thank you very much.
T3/r7/2012-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: anyone know how to enable adobe flash in linux with opera?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: what other ways are there to get a large file from point A to point B? if i cant use a USB, and its too big for email...
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: dropbox?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: will that work for 32 mb?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: i guess ill try it :) thank you
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah dropbox
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i deliver al my files via dbox
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: me too, use my referral link! http://db.tt/4XgxxVQ :p
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I thought I remembered you saying something to that effect, though I haven't used it before...:-P
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i even run mush from my dropbox folder, so my save state files etc sync across computers
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: me too red
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: seriously?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: i didnt know you could do that
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: thats pretty cool
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i actualy develop in dropbox
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: my plugins... automatic backup and versioning
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: WTB winkle plugin for in range war notification :p
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: wtb gquest plugin
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: wtb sleep
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: winkle, sleep is easy, just get some calcium tabs and some darkness
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: no sleep for the wicked
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: thatnmust be why graug
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: winkle is not wicked :(
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Used to be Loved softly nuzzles WinkleWinkle's neck.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: maybe a little bit
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: thanks to winkle i've done over 250 cps in the past two months and 6 gquest wins :P
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: sweet! :D
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Used to be Loved looks at Winkle-2000 Idiocy Machine and Smurf Crusher and chants, "H! E! R! O!... Winkle-2000 Idiocy Machine and Smurf Crusher is my Hero!!!"
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Used to be Loved looks at WinkleWinkle and chants, "H! E! R! O!... WinkleWinkle is my Hero!!!"
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Used to be Loved throws back her head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle enthusiastically high-fives Winkle-2000 Idiocy Machine and Smurf Crusher!
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: is that a manor mob?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alain Johns Tech: I wouldn't be surprised. ;)
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah.. id love to know whose
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: are we being sarcastic? im confused. i thought it was yours!
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: its not mine
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i would love to know whose it is
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alain Johns Tech: I would love to know who owns that manor that sells cocaine. RT Manorville, run 5nd, I think.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: OH I actuallty know that
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: its my ex-spouses :)
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: vespar...aka killagorilla
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: true story
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: i have a question about roms! like...zelda and stuff
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: what about them? :)
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: i have an emulator on my computer and on my tablet...and i want to play zelda on both :P but right now the one on my computer is a lot more progressed than the one on  tablet
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: how can i transfer over my saved game?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: Well, which emulator/game specifically?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: i tried just transfering the whole rom...and i got it onto the tablet
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: Cuz Zsnes saves zst files, for example.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: n64 / ocarina of time
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: Savefiles don't modify the actual rom, so the saves are in probably a folder.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: I used to do snapshot saves on project 64? 
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: Using Project64 or something similar?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: Yeah, snapshot save or actual memory save?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: oh yes...project64
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: im not sure how its saving...thats why im trying to find out :P
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: Well, are you saving as you normally would in-game?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: yeah it will be a different file to the actual rom - it doesn't modify the rom if you do a snaphot save
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: Or are you a cheat-or :P
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: i usually do both
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: haha!
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: as a backup :P
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: i save in game and on project 64
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: Well, the memory pak saves are in MemPaks (for the base mempak) and Save (for each game).
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: So that's for your in-game savefiles.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: alright let me see if i can get this to work
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: Project64 is on the tablet?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: no just a n64 emulator is
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: You'd need to use the same emu on both computers. 
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: oh no dont tell me that
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: There are no standard file formats for this stuff, I'd be surprised if they're cross compatible. 
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: yeah, I would imagine it would cause problems if you didn't
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: Of course, you can download save files off the net so what do I know? Maybe there's some way to handle that.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: But that's outside my xp.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: that's interesting, I didn't realise people put up save files for roms.  I've not come across those before
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: Sometimes I see them on gamefaqs.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: I've never tried one though, so not sure how much trouble it is. I think the files might be intended for genuine use, not for emu.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: cool, it's been a while since I've done any emulation gaming.  I seem to spend most of my time on here at the moment lol
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: If it exists, I've at least used an emulator for it. :P
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: nice, have you played 3-D monster maze for the ZX81? :P
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: Not on an original system no. :P
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: lol I used to have that when it first came out.  It was quite amazing for its time. It was quite fun playing it again when I came across it on an emulator
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: Heh, that's before my time. I started with an Intellivision and a Vic 20.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: Which is to say, I *just* missed it :P
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: yeah, I remember buying three intellivisions which all overheated lol in the end I got an Atari
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: Yeah, but Blue Sky Rangers man. Some really nice stuff on that console, despite the phone pad. >.>
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: I remember getting Tower of Doom for my birthday as a kid, first roguelike I ever touched I think.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: definitely, I was quite disappointed I couldn't get a working system. It's the usual story of pumping out a console in time for xmas
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: 'course I'm one of the strange few that started with Pascal when I was like 4. And by strange few I mean probably surprisingly common on this mud. :D
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: So a long sordid love affair with machines, like most on here I bet. :)
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: haha! I basic was as far as I got. I remember programming a text adventure on my c64 lol
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: Awesome, I never got the chance to use a C64 for coding.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: Although I'm super interested right now in the Z80 chip (for spectrum, msx, etc) and the 6502 (original NES).
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: I'm not sure I can live without oop now that I've been steeped in a decade of it >.>
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: you should go on places like atari age if you are interested in stuff like assembly although you've probably come across it before I would imagine
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: I am on there, yes. :)
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: I did a little bit of c++ a few years ago but I've forgotten most of it now lol
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: I talk a lot, but really I spend so much time playing games I can't imagine I'll ever be productive.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra snickers at those languages.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: yeah, it's a cool site.  I haven't been on there for a little while.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: I'm currently doing Obj-C for iOS and man, I do not likey.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joakim Tech: Cizra. Are you a pythonist?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Haskellist.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: Haskell is quite fun :)
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Joakim goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: (though it's not super practical for my line of work sadly)
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Well, nothing suits everybody, but it's nice to have a proper type system.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: Haskell is the language I have fun with to relax away from my job coding. :P
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Eliminates at least 95% of common bugs I make when writing non-Haskell code.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enril Tech: I just...don't want to discuss some of the horrible things I've seen/done for production code. I can't read dailywtf due to flashbacks. -_-
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joakim Tech: Heh, try hand gel. It eliminates 99% of common bugs.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Excuse me?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thoaril Tech: on the android app..is there a way to search for a specific word?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Wow...my uni is attempting to implement a 'Do not discuss' rule for social media - any discussion of course, professors, uni in general on facebook will result in disciplinary action...too bad the legal students responded with their opinion of how sue-able the uni is in this instance :-P
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What's a do not discuss rule?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What is supposed to be prohibited, and how?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: any discussion of course, professors, uni in general on facebook will result in disciplinary action
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: From the new netiquette handbook:
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Please do not post any comments about your course, instructor, assignments and exam on any social media website- not only it is highly unprofessional and unethical; it can lead to a severe disciplinary reprimand.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Cizra: yeah, read fail :P
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I can understand exams or assignments, especially if they are 'spoilers'...
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: But the rest is a little harder to justify.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: And it's ridiculous in the first place.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That is well and truly covered in the MUCH thicker rule book, Academic Ethics :-) (spoilers, I mean)
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I *think* it is because people are using facebook groups for studying, instead of the Blackboard - though why the uni cares I have no clue
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i would assume they don't want remarks made that portray the school etc in a bad light
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That may have backfired :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: How do I turn on GMCP in tintin++ 2.00.8?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What does IAC WILL GMCP do, and when do I get it?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ooh, turned GMCP on.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Perhaps it is ipv6 making my Google so freaking slow today
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It would appear that is correct - either my machine or my isp are not ipv6 compatible, and that is causing Google to be slow
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Now if only I knew how to fix this...
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Connect via ipv4?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It is attempting to load the Google page via ipv6, and only reverting to ipv4 once the v6 has timed out
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: Did you read the box? You need at least 4gb of RAM to run ipv6.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I can download more of that, right?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: download more box? Yep, I hear it's quite popular.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The internet is for box.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, so a quick search reveals my isp only offers ipv6 to business customers atm - so I'm stuck with disabling it altogether. That said, google is now zippity fast once again :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I think it's time to start nagging our ISPs if they don't have IPv6 yet. It's time.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: From what I gather, the tech support lines became clogged today due to all of the 'grandma browsers' wondering why certain pages were slow
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Is today world ipv6 launch day?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ah, yes it is.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Definitely a good day to call my ISP and ask for IPv6 :D
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: heh cause its going to make your internet blazin fast 
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Of course, it uses 6 pipes rather than 4...
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Has nothing to do with speed, except for when it doesn't work
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien rapidly nods twice at Vakieh, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I am a networking geek. That should be reason enough.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr smiles happily.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien noddles in total agreement at Ranrr.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I know all about the differences, since I was a networking specialist for comcast for several years, but the difference is barely noticible I bet
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The difference is not running out of ip addresses...
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I understand same reason ipv4 was released, what do you gain by using ipv6... not much at all :P
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Some of the differences you can find out by reading. Some you need to find yourself, by using it.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Bah?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The main reason for ipv6 is address size. 128 bits instead of 32. 
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: IPv6 gives you a globally routable address. Actually a /64 subnet of them.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: We are almost out of ipv4 addresses, hence ipv6.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: This means your cat can have a million IPv6 addresses if it wants.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: This means no more stupid tricks with routing to be able to set up a server, for instance.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shortbus Stutz Tech: I can haz IP?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: This means file transfers NOT going through MSN servers.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: iirc the last Class A address bank was allocated at the beginning of 2011
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it was somewhere in 2011. Dunno what part though
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you wanted to start a new ISP today, you would have to buy your addresses on the second hand market, at a price of some 20-100 bucks per address. If you can find a seller.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Now is the most profitable time for v4 addresses, wait any longer and v6 will strip your price floor from under you
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: anyone capable of running a background check
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: on?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: a person
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: like sites wanna charge a membership and stuff
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: background check on a website?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: i just needa know basic public info
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: to see if they scammers or what not
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i use google for that
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bilith Tech: Any paramedics here?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: Not sure about that but I am a certified Sith Lord
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Piffaron classchanges to Paramedics.  Now cough!
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averax Tech: quick mushclient question - I keep trying to import a plugin with VB script and getting errors, do I need to download anything to have it support VB?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: So, uh, *ahem* Vim or Emacs?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra wants to see some fireworks.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hanslanda asks Cizra if dey wuv colors.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: android users anyone ?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: me
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Logansen Tech: me
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Logrus Tech: me too
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Logansen Tech: thats it:) lol
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: my memory card containing javascript files is lost. now I have problems with the internet. soloutions ?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Logansen Tech: hmmm not sure
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: lost as in you don't actually have the card to use, or lost as in you stick it in the slot and the computer can't find it?  Or lost in that it can find the card just fine but the files just simply aren't there?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: physically lost
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would you have necessary js files on a memory card?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably phone-related.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: turns out that for some phone companies you have to use the correct sim card instead of just any sim card.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I recently ran into that problem at Radio Shack when a friend bought a new phone and the tech put in an incompatible card.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, they usually give you the sim card with the plan tho
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it was a pay as you go phone
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Does everyone using GMCP have the 'Please enter a valid character name' response on login?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: nope
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm wondering if there is a second opportunity to respond to IAC WILL GMCP which doesn't clash with the login prompt.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: that most likely has nothing to do with gmcp but your client.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm fairly certain that's where the problem lies, but I'm not sure if IAC WILL GMCP occurs after login as well.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm using tt++ 2.00.8.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: have you checked this http://www.theixle.dune.net/aardwolf+tintin-1.00.tgz
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: you might get some info out of it 
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Thanks, Ixle has already offered me some help. I was just asking around to see if others might have the same problem, I don't have the time to investigate that in detail at the moment.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: it's a minor issue though, since I can log in anyway.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: If it helps, I know that I load my gmcp stuff *after* I've connected to the Aardwolf session...
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: That's probably what I need to do.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'll look at it when I have the time :) Thanks guys :)
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Pedwiddle: I'll have to remember what you said for next time.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: (Just doubling your presence in my logs. :P)
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Anyone have plugin which takes Mushclient main window and copies the color using aardwolf color codes of some cut and pasted text?  I know that the chatwindow does it, but I'm looking for some main window.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'll use rawcolors in the mean time of course :)
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antistes Tech: ctrl-d works for me
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Hmm me too - How'd you learn about that one?  NOt in right click menu.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Mendaloth: Someone just needs to update the Color_Copy_Output plugin it seems.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antistes Tech: i dunno... i wasn't able to find the command after i started using it, too. maybe i found it in a prior version
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is setup in the format of before xterm256.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if you were to code this yourself, you would be looking for ansi color codes in the form of ESC[#;#m, where the first # is either 0 for dim or 1 for bright, and the second # is the color reference (ie, 37 = white)
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oh - should submit a bug to Fiendish.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Ctrl+D work fine for my purposes since anything I'll be copying doesn't use xterm.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Is there a version of less that works with ANSI color codes?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: err, a version of what?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I can see the colour in tail, but less gives me the raw codes.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ah, less is a small program that lets me view text or other files in 'pages'.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Trurien: You could copy as HTML possibly.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: There is that. But I'm able to see colours in tail, which works fine for me at the moment.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: It's just annoying when I'm trying to page through a logfile and have to wade through the ESCs.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is something I cannot help you with.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien beams a smile at Turie.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Thanks, though.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Sure you aren't inadvertently passing the -r flag?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...to less, that is.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I don't know, it might be in a hidden alias somewhere. I just call less as-is.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Wait, scratch that - you *want* to
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ah, tested. Thanks :)
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I just tried it
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Wow, lag...:-P
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Guess I should take some time later on to check possible flags too.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: manpages are your friend..:-P
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yes, but when you have too many friends....
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Heh, fair enough
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: By the way, while you're still lagging, mind joining laser for a bit? :D
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien stares at the sky.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Heh - still a bit too engrossed in converting all my tf defs to tt++....:-P
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien flashes a mischievous grin at Pedwiddle.  Hmm. is it time to run and hide?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immortalis Craven Tech: i'm running zmud 7.21. when i log on i have 3 capture windows that pop up, but i'm having a problem where they show command line and status. how do i permanently keep them from doing that everytime?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: save the settings files for those windows, after turning off what you want to turn off.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immortalis Craven Tech: hmm, I've done that several times. I wonder if it's because I imported my mud file and maybe I forgot to make sure read-only was unchecked. but all other scripts/aliases/etc save just fine
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: so for your session, you for sure have 4 .mud files (5 if you also use inherited settings)?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if you do not find 4 .mud files on your computer that you are sure are associated with that session, you did not in fact do that several times.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immortalis Craven Tech: hmm, thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: make sure you click on the window and THEN choose File|Save.  If you have the main window selected, it's just going to save that main window file instead.
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: speaking of ZMud, any particular reason you haven't upped to something newer?
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immortalis Craven Tech: don't really need to tbh. i tried cmud and hated it
T3/r7/2012-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: craven what version did you try?  I don't blame you for hating it if you only tried 2.37, but CMud version 3 is rock solid.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My new external storage drive has an led bar, which increases as the storage capacity is used. I am currently copying 900 gb of 'legitimate' files onto it, and watching that bar creep upwards is the coolest thing I've seen since my morning deuce.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yo, hotmail is down?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: seems fine
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: ^
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Anyone else with tt++ noticed that #PATH will sometimes double back on itself?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Are you fooling around with portals?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Well, somewhat - I do basically what ixle does in his scripts - #MAP DIG for each portal, then #MAP UNLINK before I #PATH
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah I noticed the same thing - about to check it now, my theory was that I had to do the #path after the dig but before the unlink.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I wonder if it's a result of Scandum improving the #MAP FIND speed with 2.00.9
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: anyone have a quick example of ARGV-like variable substitution for tinyfugue?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: What do you mean, Oryn?  In what context?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: ie, whack MOBNAME, which does "kill $1%;gouge%;etc,etc
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: /def whack = kill {1}%
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Well, you get the point...
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: ah, ok - thanks - that's what I needed :)
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah Ped Just tested it was my issue.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: addportals; #map find {%0}; clearportals; #path run
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Ah, sorry, Oryn - It's %1 in that case, {1} in expressions.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Now if could just find a good way to get it to prefer custom exits.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: ah, ok - thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: So, Mend - your #PATH doesn't double back on itself when you do things in that order?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah that order works for me.  I don't know that it was doubling back before, but it would do a wierd thing like run there then run somewhere else wihtout using the protal.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Hm, k.  That's the order I'm using, so not my issue.  Still, though, might keep a look at your minimap, or maybe look at #PATH SHOW to see if you see what I'm talking about.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: How do you change the default skin colour in mxit?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: If you buy an MP3 from Amazon, and delete it by accident, can you re-download it for free?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: should be able to sign in your acct to access privious bought items of such
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Good to know, I might actually use that option then :P
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: people buy mp3's? :P
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: the deaf need  no mp3s ,)
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I like Zaz, but I don't want to deal with a physical CD at the moment :)
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Not sure how much of that revenue goes to them though :P
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: probably about 1%
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Which would be about 1 cent per download then.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: rt fantasy
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oops
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazir Tech: Can anyone tell me what sets off the bell in the Aard client?  Mine keeps going off, and I'm not entirely sure why!
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Apple is smelling their niche of the USA market being in trouble with Samsung producing a product that can compete against them in the tablet and cellphone markets. Apple seems to be scared about Samsung's Galaxy Tablet 10.1, Galaxy Nexus, and Galaxy III S cellphone.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: better processors and Android, easier to root
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: hmmn. i think my phone might be rooted since i put cm9 on it
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: mine's not...yet
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: it takes like less than 20 minutes once you download the image.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: any audacity 
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: users 
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: can you somehow make the text bigger. blowtorch client ?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: Ya, it's in the options.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: where
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: with a portrait screen the text is tiny.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: I can only imagine how bad it must be on a tab.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Short of editing the plugin - anyone know a way to just get he mapper to run to a room if it returns one room that matches a search?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Mushclient here.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper goto doesn't do it?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Playing the game honestly is just too much work
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Decimator flashes a mischievous grin at Starling.  Hmm. is it time to run and hide?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It will, but mapper goto only works if you know the room number off hand :)
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if the fiendish mapper commands don't do it, I would bet on Winkle's xrt stuff to.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or do you mean "if resultset is single, don't ask further?"
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, mapper find gives you that
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah I mean if I do a find - and it only returns one room - I still have to click.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh wow, you hafta click (or type)
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Good lord, no!  Clicking is too much work to bot a gq!
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: ffs
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: *SMH*
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'm not saying it's a huge deal - just saying if there is only one result in a search, why not run it?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tater Tot Vinatia Tech: wouldnt that be botting?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: geez, watch your language, guys, or we'll have to bring Flash back.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: ...you mean HTML5 :P
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: No, the lull in conversation from the rest.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it would not be botting anymore than mapper goto with a specific vnum would be botting.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or nx }:>
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: Hanslana, as you like to pick on every little mistake I make, don't forget to point out that I didn't capitalize FFS
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: And technically speaking, shouldn't that be F.F.S. ?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: or did periods in acroynms go the same way as knowing the way to a room and typing commands?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: ffs.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Obsolete.  Wave of the future.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i don't see the big deal, players have been running to rooms for years...
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: think of it in terms of what Lasher would see when he's sitting at the keyboard going "It's been ____ since I last caught a bot, let's see if the fish are biting today".  If your super-de-duper script looks no different to "some arbitrary set of actions that are considered legal", then as far as he's concerned you're not botting.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: in terms of enforcing the rules, what he is asking isn't botting.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: just effin lazy.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: lol :p
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: That would make a good quote.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: or just smart.  Or better yet, a really skilled nonbotting GQer.  It's just a semantics thing here.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Shrug, those scripts play the game for you to an extent they might as well be botting
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's why bots aren't looked at from a scripting standpoint as far as the rules go (simply put, bots != scripts).
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Have to agree to disagree on that. If I woke up and decided to bot, I wouldnt be at the keyboard. Would be afk and come and check how much gain I got while at work.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: Well clearly Hanslanda knows more about what is and isn't looked for in checking for bots than I do so I'll bow out of this conversation and leave you in his capable hands.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: (afk, botting)
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hey now, some of us would come back from the pr0n window to see how much gain
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Sitting at the keyboard grinding is tenous. Anything that can save a few keystrokes, im all for.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I wouldn't.  I'd want to be close by in case something went wrong with the script.  The "go to work and check your earnings later" is.  Gq botting isn't about being afk, it's about making the game client do as many things as possible for you to save time.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i don't see how much play value you get spamming the same alias a gazillion times.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Er, is a poor approach is how, that sentence should have ended.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: starling, this has been true since gq's started...
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I don't care.  "It's been going on since forever" doesn't make it any less dirty.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well, you don't need to use them
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: You do if you want to be able to compete in gqs.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I think alot of the dispute comes from different types of players opinions. Some log in to enjoy the day on Aard, they wanna have fun on GQs and do what they do. Some want to compete at end game or catch up to be able to, enjoyment in acheiving. Nobody is going to grind 1mil or 1.5mil qps without using script.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's the equivalent of using steroids to do better in sports.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tater Tot Vinatia Tech: id love to see how most players would be able to play without scripts
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's not botting, it's not illegal, but it IS dirty play.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: most players wouldn't finish more than a coupl
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: tiers
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: They would if they could be arsed to learn where the mobs are. *shrug*
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Taking away all mappers and scripts would be cool. Problem would be that some people have already gained so much from them. We would need  a pwipe imo.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: now that would be cool
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: How fair is it for a new player to fight against someone who scriptd 3,000 gq wins and 20k cps.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirinn Tech: I use TF without any scripts. Mostly because I'm just old and don't care.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Problem is, is there a way to tell if someone is using a mapper, or if they are just fast?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: there's no way to "take them away", they're 100% client side.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: you can't tell the difference between someone with a database of rooms and someone with a good memory.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tater Tot Vinatia Tech: i have a full database and i still run off hunt and memory
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: before the mappers there were 'mobwalks', do you make having an alias that runs straight to a mob illegal? No, well then how many is too many?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and if you go by response times, then the scripters just build in "reasonable" delays
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: people caught botting levels are nuked, period, no exceptions ... but we make *very* sure first.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I wouldn't nuke gq mapper botters, I'd just gq ban them or fine them qp. *shrug*
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: Anyone who believes the rumors about "donators don't get nuked if they bot" put your money where your mouth is, donate $100, let me catch you botting levels, if I don't nuke you I'll send you $1000.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: maybe I should post that.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: you just did.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: as a note I mean.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: But at what point do you stop?  Before we stopped at mobwalks, now we have mappers.  Regardless of this, some people have always tried to do everything they could to streamline the game.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: duh.  How many of those very sures are decided before you get to the facetime, though?  Most of the time you're going into it with nothing better than a maybe.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Streamlining isn't really the same as complete automation...
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: There is optimisation and there is botting :)
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: once again you're telling me what I do.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Ok, so you don't admit that making the client so you type in two lines of text into the mapper and it allows you to run directly to where the mob is?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Sorry, you don't admit that is excessive at all?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: how many rooms are on aard?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: don't particularly like it
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: no practical way to do anything about it.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: are we supposed to remember them all, some of have jobs n such
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: I like it a lot more when it's used vanilla - you can't "find" a room that you haven't already discovered for yourself.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Would imbalance the game if it was changed. Again, all the old players who were allowed to use it for years are huge. New players wouldnt have a chance in hell catching em or even getting close.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: What do you mean "if it was changed" ? It's not changeable.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: -: 20
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: No point in debating it any further than :p 
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not like removing the mapper from the aardclient would change anything...mapper is available for MUSH, zmud, cmud, mudlet...
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I think gq winners should just get lag added to their movements next time they enter a GQ.  100ms lag per step added for every win.  50ms subtracted for any loss.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: MUD tells you you have a quest in "room X", how you decide where "room X" is client side is not something we have any visibility to.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tater Tot Vinatia Tech: i think idle time of gqs should be removed if there is active movements on players competing but this isnt the channel for that :p
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how do you tell the difference between active movement for the GQ and just going back to levelling?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: Go that extra step and trigger it to run there, *that* is detectable, that is going to get you nuked.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you don't have the command peeker yet like Lasher was talking about?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: its like a sport if something give me an advantage I'"ll use it, if something is illegal and I can't get caught with it, - won't
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tater Tot Vinatia Tech: by runs to the gq areas abelinc? but im no imm and dont know what kind of work it would be to do that... just know ive lost a few cause i couldnt find a mob :p
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: umm, you should lose a gq if you can't find a mob.  that's kind of the whole point.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The lag idea would do the job, imho
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Let the mapper botters bot, they will eventually be slowed down to the point where even that won't help them anymore.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: we should lag players that use the word mom too much too :P
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mom, breeder, and moos
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tater Tot Vinatia Tech: and trolo?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Since me and Starling are getting married, I should take offense to any mom jokes aimed towards her!
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: GQ systems, such a hot topic on Aard atm.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's only detectable because conventional wisdom with regards to scripting takes the really retarded approach that everything must happen instantaneously.  If conventional wisdom changed to take into account concepts like player reaction and spam, you'd find it to be a lot harder if not impossible to detect.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: punishing competence is a bad idea, particularly in the interest of "fairness".
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: mom mom mom mom mom mom mom mom mom mom mom mom
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's not reaction time that gets you in trouble, it's the ability to send players off and running by sending false messages to the player...
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that's why MUD clients actually have a standard function for adding delays between speedwalking commands
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: There has to be a way to make gquests more viable for newer players though.  I don't ever bother to enter.  Even in obscure levels like 91-111 or wherever.  There's just no way to win them.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's just stupid to not enter tho...
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you "win" with every kill
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: Not complaining.  If you have the ability to win gquests effectively, more power to you, just saying, a newer player like me doesn't perform very well.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: You missed Mode's point though.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, I didn't
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: gquests are perfectly viable for new players.  once you remove the "entitlement to win" concept, that is.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: his point wasn't valid as stated
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Why not?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: You're changing the definition of win Abelinc, you're arguing something else completely.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I just don't consider the consolation to be worth the effort.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everyone who isn't Michael Jordan should never pick up a basketball
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's asinine
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: More you cp, more powerful your character is, the more you will win. You wont win em all, you wont win against pro scripters, but you will win more.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: If you want to have a debate we'll have a debate.  You're not arguing my point though.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i have a friend who started winning gqs within a month of starting to play
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: not true, he needs someone to make him look good
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so i don't see why gqs are not viable for new players
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you don't consider effort with reward to be worth the effort, and you do nothing to make yourself better...you're not a target audience and are irrelevant
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: So everyone that doesn't have an almost-botlike script should still try to get a few mobs before those with the scripts come in and sweep the board?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: That's what's called an ad hominum arguement.  Dee-da-lee-dee.  I'm done.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: not often we get someone who expects to walk in here and pk T9s 'as a newbie' but somehow gquests get put in a different category.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually it wouldn't be ad hominum, nice try though
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: lol, start to engage in a gquest debate and the next line i see is:
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: You no longer feel so intelligent.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: will take that as a sign and move on :)
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Martini & Tyebald chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tater Tot Vinatia Tech: keep arguing about gqs and lasher may take em away completely. i dont like being able to not have much of a chance to win them but i also realize its just a game and im here to have fun... if people feel they need to feel superior based of gqs or anything else let em... pat em on the back if they have a lack of a life to where they need to worry about gqs
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daesilme snickers with Ironfist Razor about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: actually, forget that
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: Lasher taking away Gquests sounds improbable.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: if the mud had thousands of players I'd run gquests multi-threaded and have them in tier bands too, but then newbies would just get beaten by alts.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: Like I said, I don't feel entitled to win them, I don't get my feelings hurt when I don't.  I just think it's a system that could be optimized to include newer players.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it includes newer players
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: it _was_ optimized to include newer players when every kill rewarded qp.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: Agreed.  You do get points for each mob.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I don't know that alts would be a huge problem... I might be missing something, but to me it seems like a waste of time to put serious time into an alt, due to multiplaying rules.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Razor, I am not complaining that newbies have no chance against T9's, I am complaining that another T0 with a script can beat out the player T0 who does not have the script 99 times out of 100.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but your statements certainly did claim entitlement to win them...they weren't worth entering unless you're going to win
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tater Tot Vinatia Tech: even newer players learn about scripts as they gain knowledge and friends so in time they have just as much of a chance... huge difference between new players and players who just dont wanna use scripts for everything
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: Decimator, it may be counter-intutive but given that those particular scripts are not illegal and can't be made illegal, that was the whole point in making them so widely available.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all my wins have been without GQ scripts or mobwalks, I manually copy/paste the MOB list into a text editor program, no capture windows, etc...I won 3 on Tuesday
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have no mapper or pathfinding algorithm set up in my client, I use client aliases to run to areas
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you?  Not scripting?  Not sure we can really believe that one, Abe.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Its sort of like someone playing from Telenet and complaning that everyone should play from Telenet. Why would anyone want to... download MUSH and gogogo :p
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirinn Tech: Nostalgia.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: I see you're personally invested in the gquest system remaining the same Abelinc, which explains your defensiveness on the topic.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the gq system running the same vs changing doesn't benefit me in the least, mode...
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: So, by making what is unfair fair game for everyone, it suddenly makes it ok to use?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but I'm willing to put in effort for my wins, so I'd get those wins both ways
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you've ever competed against abelinc you'd realise he falls into the category of people who don't stand a chance against the 'elite' gq'ers :p
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: Which is fine, because the topic isn't how the gquest system benefits Abelinc, it's how the gquest system affects the playerbase.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so i don't think he's really the one benefiting
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just my two cents - You can have all the scripts in the world to help you win, but you're going to need area knowledge, too. Especially with keys. Knowledge has the potential to beat out a script 9 times out of 10 if that's all it's based on (knowledge vs. script). Unfortunately, there are some with knowledge and scripts, too.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Redryn.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I've won gqs with a phone.  against competitors.  no scripts, no runtos, no portals.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: granted, usually I get hammered if I'm on a phone.  but it's do-able.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: the rules are the rules, I'm not always going to approve personally of how someone plays within the rules but unless there's a strong enough reason to change them and the new rule is practically enforceable there is no point.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: when you *really* know every area and every key location and all the shortcuts that cant be scripted and you still regularly lose to "map bots", let's talk about it then.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm not without scripts, but I am without scripts to directly help with GQs...my speedwalk to areas are "go home, get keys for area from manor floor, runto area", that's my "botting"
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why?  The enforceability aspect still wouldn't have changed.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I liked it when you needed to save up for keepall, and if you mention a gq bot, you would be referred to the gqbot helpfile :p
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tater Tot Vinatia Tech: someone needs to make a script to make ppsi stronger :p
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that technology is still years beyond us, Vin. :P
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: There certainly is a difference between proper planning and cheating Abelinc.  I don't deny people's right to win based on experience/ability.  I would like to see a more refined gquest system based on hours online or total wins, but the playerbase isn't large enough to involve some sort of ranking system IMO,
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: talk to tlama
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tater Tot Vinatia Tech: i miss ppsi! just obsolete compared to other pclasses it seems
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hours online doesn't mean anything, total wins don't mean anything
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: the problem with that is amateur rankings tend not to pay so well either.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: erikson has *BBYYYY FFFAAAARRR* more hours online than pretty much every pfile but Lasher's...he has 2 GQ wins...
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: unless you think your high school "C" team should make as much as the NBA players, gquests in that range would be for 120 gold.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: of course.  Nothin in an activity (ie, playing a game) means anything if the sole objective is to engage in that activity.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: similarly, Majic has a TON of total wins, but they're pretty much all from years ago
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: case of a bot breaking 
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: case of priorities changing
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: I don't think the "gquest win" on your profile is the prize here though Ironfist, it's the QPs.  So drop the QPs for the lower ranked gquests and you're straight.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: I have no gquest wins because I can can't be bothered putting in the work it would take for me to win one.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: GQ wins are nice bonus qps for sure... you cant rely on em though. Even 1000 wins is only maybe 50k qps.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: and about 100 tps, qps from the losses
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The annoyance isn't that the botters are getting qps, it's that the botters shut everyone else out before they can lift a finger.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: nah, if we had the player base to support it I'd run a cycle per tier, concurrent, but we don't, so I don't..
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you're an IMM, though.  It's expected for your IMMly duties to be taking all your time and sense of fun away.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: expected by whom, you?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: I have no knowledge of how MUD coding works, but I doubt the system I have in mind could even be properly implemented, and would probably take years to perfect after going live on the playerbase.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I do love hearing anti map bot arguments...because the people who win hands down every time are people who supplement a good map with good knowledge
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: we need more mazes imo
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's not just the botters, because clearly there are enough players with real knowledge able to compete.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirinn Tech: Seems to me like you have to have knowledge before you could make a map, yar?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: Gquests just come to mind as one area that Aard could potentially improve upon, simply because the game itself runs so well.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope kirinn
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nope.  Filesharing.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: like clans are known for.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: We need more _good_ mazes - Nenukon and Sahuagin are excellent examples
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or just going to the wiki and walking each area once
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: known by whom, you?
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: aardclient maps for ya...
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: a few tweaks and you can run to any mob too
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: You're lucky there's a no personal attacks rule otherwise someone might point out that you constantly spout of a bunch of crap you think you know of who does what and who says what and change the subject when challenged on it.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: even a simple maze like in gob fort breaks pure mapper bots
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Astral Travels is another great example of a mapper killer with style
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: this game needs more mazes like it needs a hole in the head haha
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If we want to kill mappers for GQs, just turn off gmcp for Gq-ers.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not anymore, Redryn.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Learn the colours on the ascii map and voila! Maze defeated (aside: is there a VI help bit for that room?)
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: knowing an area really well beats mapper find.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: period
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirinn Tech: Well, I just lost my first GQ.  Back to basketball and beer.
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mode Tech: Enjoy, that sounds like a good way to lose your dinner. 8)
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: heh i almost joined a gq, but by the time i typed gq join/gq progress someone had already killed more than half the targets :P
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should type gq join before the GQ starts, and don't bother ever typing gq pro
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah...
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: When I started out with gqs, it was frantically mashing alt-tab to a wiki map, finding the room, path, etc - I got 1-3 mobs using that method
T3/r7/2012-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alhena wrote a newbie GQ tipsheet about 6 months back, wonder if that made it to the wiki
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: math for beginners
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's 0 AND 2?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: (logical and)
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: 0?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: do you want to apply binary logics to decimal system?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so what's ^(0 & 2)?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: or what are 0 and 2?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: TRUE.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you might think so, trurien, javascript disagrees
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hmm, i think it might be a weird bracketing order thing
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Wait, I assumed ^ is not.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: technically ^0 & 2 should be true
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it claims false
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sorry, should be !
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's early yet
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it says !0 & 2 is false
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: though !(0 & 2) it correctly reports true
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: not(true and false) should be true, no idea what 0 and 2 are in your case^^
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: OK, that's strange.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Did you read Javascript specs to see what values are considered 'TRUE' and 'FALSE'?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: unsigned integers
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just have to remember to bracket stuff
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: so you wanna find out what not(10 and 15
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: so you wanna find out what not(10 and 15) are, that should be always something weird
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: they're doing (bitwise AND) frolo.  its a method of finding bit placement within a holder.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Tigernuts: in the (presumably Javascript) console in Chromium
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Mmm.  You seem to be wanting &&
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shouldn't matter the underlying representation, provided you're not mixing signs
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I tried 2 == true and it returned false :P
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's because == is equivalence
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: see,he is trying boolean logics on int :)
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Exactly, you wanted to know what 2 meant, right?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I think representation matters.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 2&2 = true, 2&0 is false
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 3&2 = true, 3&1 is true, 3&0 is false
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 2&1 is false
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: 3&1 is 1, 2&1 is 0
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: That's not the same as true and false.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: True and false comparisons are unpredictable across languages - the C style is that 0 is false, ALL other values are true
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nods, 3&1>0 is true
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: yeah. normally you'd do the equiv of 'if (x && y)=y then'
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and that is correct, vakieh
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 1>0 == 1
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That is why it is always useful to use the comparison which self-documents what you are actually trying to test - rather than hack boolean tests onto non boolean values
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm old fashioned :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The operator overloading that C++ provides is an excellent move away from the 'clever code' of C
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: strongly typed languages don't suffer the problem as they'll insist on using correct typing
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: Vaki is the 5hit :)
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well yeah, I never saw a loosely typed language that couldn't be done better with strongly typed - loosely typed merely opens the gates to people who don't know what they're doing (not always the case, but often enough that it's an issue)
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: sing it Vaki !
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: loosely typed languages either started as tack-ons (like javascript) or were historically early developments
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not like they developed them deliberately to be loose
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That I know of, only Lua was designed with the intention of loosely typing its variables
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh, Flame was written in LUA, apparently
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lua on a bed of C++ - gotta love progress :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Didn't the CIA and co admit responsibility for that one, saying it took on a life of its own and was uncontrollable?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: U make me wanna salad :P
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: is there any trick in getting ColourNote to work? just seem to get it to happen
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's that?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: Im using ColourNote ( "white", "green", "Upgrade Jin") in MushClient
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: and doesnt seem to wokr
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alain Johns Tech: I'm still learning to use regex, and the page for MUSHclient is a bit confusing. I don't want to match with .+ for this trigger... I just need maybe one or two words (but they could be anything)... Suggestions, Tech? :(
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: didn't hear that, vakieh, though most specialists said it had to have state-backing
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: really limits the options to Israel, USA, or Saudi
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the US really isn't a democracy anymore, the presidency, fbi, and intelligence agencies call the shots and are not answerable to the american people
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so i wouldn't be surprised if the CIA were involved in Flame
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: And this belongs on tech because :P
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: because it's talk about a Virus/Cyberweapon
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I can't find it on tech -h.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ah, "Flame was written in Lua".
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: [08 Jun 05:28:56] Tigernuts Tech: heh, Flame was written in LUA, apparently
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Vakieh Tech: Didn't the CIA and co admit responsibility for that one, saying it took on a life of its own and was uncontrollable?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: The intervening salad and colournote kind of hid that.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: So what is the most common reasons a computer running windows XP just randomly switches itself off.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Bad power
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: overheating?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: PSU on the fritz
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: PSU seems logical, can you think of any reasons aside from PSU?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: could hardware incompatibility cause it or something?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hitting a patch of RAM bad enough to skip right past a BSOD
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Logrus Tech: I'd go with overheating...if you don't want to blame Microsoft.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: so, PSU, overheating, dodgy RAM
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If I was to weight those, it would be 99:1
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: in favour of PSU?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: test or just witch the PSU
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: switch*
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: pretty sure it's not overheating, I did put some new RAM in but....it worked fine in my other computer.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: only thing is, it never switches off randomly during boot or anything
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: that's why I thought maybe it wasn't PSU somehow
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: could just be coincidence though
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If only recently added new RAM, that does change things - you may have buggered the pins, or touched something you shouldn't have whilst not grounded?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Logrus Tech: re-seat all the cards and chips.  That often fixes silly problems.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: The RAM went in quite easily tbh, I think it's unlikely
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Can anyone recommend a free program where you can do an audio recording with demonstrating things on the computer?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I recommend screencast-o-matic. But it'll cost you around $12. It's free for recordings up to 15mins or so.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Then there is camtasia, which isn't free.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Any recommendations for a basic building layout grid for designing?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I found something call Jing. It seems to be doing what I need.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Any suggestions for converting swf files to mp4?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone know of a way of removing pages from browser history (i.e using the back/forward buttons)
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: surfing porn? heh heh
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Depends on browser, try ctrl+H and deleting the pages you don't want in there.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: programattically
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: yeah, u can easily delete individual pages
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but only some pages, vs clearing history?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: web app that returns to the same page to rerender, but obviously using the back button just takes you to that same page
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I know in firefox it's a database - but seriously it's very browser dependent.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oh you want to see previous page of a visitor to a website?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, a person's journey might be page1, page2, page3, page3, page3, page3, page3 - i want to remove the duplicates
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: firefox does so automatically, but apparently Apple Macs are shit and don't
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Install firefox for mac if it exists?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i can't dictate what other people use as browsers
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wait, you want the SERVER to be able to remove pages from a CLIENT's history? HEEEEEEELLLLLLL NO
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, i want the page to
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the page is the server
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, javascript runs on the client
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: seriously, do you listen to yourself? do you realize what the implications are?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the implications are that the mac browser is crap, firefox automatically removes duplicates
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no mac browser
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'll need to go do some browser testing, but it's probably either safari or the mac port of Chrome
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: safari and chrome (on Mac and PC) both use the webkit engine
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: webkit is the rendering engine
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but since firefox uses gecko, i guess that could be the common element
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i guess dealing with absurd browser behaviour is part of the process
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tiger, look around at window.onbeforeunload
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: here's info on the html5 history options...https://developer.mozilla.org/en/DOM/Manipulating_the_browser_history...might have the info you need, and has a link at the very bottom for a .js to work around cross-browser history compatibility issues
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yeah, saw that
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not sure that's going to help any, tbh
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: for some reason O
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: changing the window setting is affecting my keyboard.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: Cant type numbers.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: is there a way to tell mapper to pause in the middle of a speedwalk to allog for a mprog to fire?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in fact if you read the help you'll find it
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: um, thanks.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: how do I tell mapper to pause in the middle of a speedwalk  to allow a mprog to fire.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: use the wait command in your cexit. try reading mapper help
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: the ingame help? mapper help?  okay, I'll look at that (again)
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: mapper help exits...Look at the mapper cexit <command> information to the right.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: no.. that just tells it to wait longer for that cexite to record.  I want it to wait WHILE excuting that cexit next time, when I actually use it.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: its in the helpfile to
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: you are reading the wrong part lol
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, I
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, I'll look
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: this line: of the cexit, use wait(<seconds>) as one
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: it waits.  that's what it does.  whether you're setting it up initially
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: one you set in the room prior to making the cexit, to allow it more time. The other is a command within the cexit to make a pause. Takes a few to get the hang.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: or using it later
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thankies
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: usually have to use them both, since if you pause mid cexit it will prolly take longer than 2 seconds.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think you shouldn't have to
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: iirc it accounts for internal waits
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: if you use the wait command the script automatically takes that into account
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cyne nods at Ol' Dirty Fiendish.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Nice, thanks. That will make it easier :p
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: did keep of the kobaloi change from the old area in layout?  I'm having some issues with it and mapper...
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: just insert wait into your cexit. it works for me
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Use to be dwarven kingdom, long ago. Knock the goal out and the area becomes very fast/easy
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Winkle, are you making VI bots now?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: anybody know how screensavers are written?  i notice that if i start a typing sequence while it's being turned on, i can continue typing and the input doesn't get sent to the application
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: is it waiting to terminate consuming my input .. until i hit enter or something?  it's odd
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: anyone can recommend the most lightweight linux distro with just the basic stuff?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: You want one with xfce as the display manager, for bare bones window management.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...linux mint has one, iirc
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: latest linux mint seems to have a lot of unecessary stuff and is system intensive
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I want the exact opposite of that
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I have an old system here that struggles with linux mint
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Then go with straight debian, perhaps - less user-friendly, but shouldn't install a ton of stuff you don't need...
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: I've heard Open Suse is good for older hardware.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: if I want to send something like a ColourNote I send to script, if I want to do something (like get a portal from a bag) I send to World...is there any way I can combine these in the one alias?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: cool ty
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: You can send to script, then explicitly send from the script to the world, iirc...though it's been a loooong while since I've dealt with MUSH
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yes, choose send to script and use Send ("command")
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: to do what pedwiddle said
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: thanks both
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: you can also use Execute and it will process through the client first checking variables or aliases before sending
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: in aardmush...I can get ColourNote to work to script but cant work out how to sue Send command in conjunction to send to world...any tips?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: this was already answered, Mottle.  check the history.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delrich Tech: how do i disable making new buttons?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: you might need to be a little more specific. what client etc.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Follow My Rhuli Tech: Delrich, which client are you using to play Aardwolf?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delrich Tech: what do you mean?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Follow My Rhuli Tech: Is it a phone client?  If so, what was it called when you downloaded it?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delrich Tech: im on my android, so yeah, and just "Aardwolf RPG"
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: well. you said you want to know how to stop making buttons.   but you've given us no info on what client you use etc.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is Blowtorch Aardwolf I think.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Follow My Rhuli Tech: Any android users out there know how to delete buttons that can help Delrich?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delrich Tech: sorry, im a bit new to this game, i dont know whats expected of me
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: hold down on the bottom i think, and it gives an option to delete?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Follow My Rhuli Tech: Don't worry, we're a patient group (on the newbie channel).. heh :)
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: no. aardwolf rpg exists, and it has a set of map blue buttons on the right, with others.... but i have no clue on it more than that.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delrich Tech: i know how to delete it, i just wanna know how to stop making new buttons, everytime i scroll, if i hold the screen too long, i get a new button
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: My internet connection is slow it seems.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: heh yea I hated that as well, never figured out how to stop it
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delrich Tech: if tech never figured this out, im screwed lol
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Logansen Tech: same thing happens to me when u scroll dont hold your finger on it for to long
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delrich Tech: alright, guess i'll just have to adjust to quick finger motions, thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i can't help you. i found the screen real estate after the keyboard being displayed too limited, thus, i stopped using it
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delrich Tech: just got kicked off the server with an error...
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Logansen Tech: yes try swiping more than scrolling:)
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delrich Tech: thanks, so do i just leave tech chat on?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Logansen Tech: up to u:)
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delrich Tech: ok, dont see a reason to close it :P thanks again
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Logansen Tech: np hope it works:)
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delrich Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delrich Tech: tell?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delrich Tech: i recalled
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's weird watching X-Files how poor the FBI must be that they can't afford light bulbs in any of their offices
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in the novel Mariposa, they get disbanded for incompetence.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I am considering buying a mac mini as a multimedia center (run it as itunes server, + storing my gazillion pictures etc) is there any other alternative with a pleasant form factor? dell used to have zino...something along those lines?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I already have a NAS but it's not great as an itune server...
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Just be aware that Mac Minis don't play well with some televisions.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: They don't negotiate resolution correctly.
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: so best to get a mini tower PC, or is there something sleeker?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I am also not that keen to pay that much of premium for the mini...
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone got any recommendations for buying a cable toner? can i go with ebay cheap? or should i buy a name brand?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a what?
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: wire tracer
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you know you plug or clip one end to a wire and then go to the rats nest in the demarc point and find it
T3/r7/2012-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: battery and lightbulb?
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: I wanted to change my background to white in mushclient but I'm guessing the picture of the aardwolf is stopping this?  I can't find the picture to delete it in my folders.  Can anyone remember where it is?
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: bg13.something
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: aardbg13.png
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: thanks, am still trying to find it :)
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: world/plugins/images
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: thanks, I got it sorted now and changed the background colour :)
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: YO. wtf does the s3 in the states only have 2 cores.. fu samsung
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: peace. i'm out
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: any1 know why mushclient shows things in curly brackets?  e.g. {helpbody} when i see a help file
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: i'm guessing that's not a feature
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: That's a tag. Check help tags to find out more.
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: are there any skinning plugins avail for mush out there? :p
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What are skinning plugins? :P
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Something to automatically skin corpses after combat, I imagine
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: They used to call those triggers...
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: autoloot
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: i need something to report stats to a window after id item
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Uh.. are you reading Tzadkiel?
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I dunno, there may be some advanced cool things you want to have, like auto-discarding crap skins.
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Well, you could ask Turie about his auction ad script.
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=10207
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: thanks turie
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Woah... http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/12/q3/e16/Passwords.gif
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mael Tech: so i'm level 58, and i set an exit level lock at level 100, but mushmap still tries to use that exit...if i set the lock to 200, then it avoids it...apparently it uses your 'tier level', any way to change that?
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: without having any kind of app to connect to another comp in my wlan network, say, my neighbor for instance, can I send him a message since I see him on my network?
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I recall that windows 98 and xp had some sort of function to send a popup message by command console or something
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: I DOUBT IT
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Yes, you can throw a rock through his window
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: winpopup.exe?
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: out even
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: No worms or viruses.
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yuu mean like netsend or somrthing like that?
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there's the net send command, but receipt of messages is disabled by default in new versions of windows
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: unless he happened to enable the service, he won't get the message
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you want to be mean, you might be able to shutdown his computer... :P
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: anyone got probs with the blowtorch app ?
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Who uses cMUD and knows how to work with the xterm256 setup to manage colors?
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkki Tech: who even uses cmud in general ?
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 38 people online
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien nods.
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkki Tech: say oh its possible to check it somehow ?
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: clients
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkki Tech: wow, awesome :D
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: how would a person create a map?
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: pen and paper or nowadays alhena's mapper
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: although I still prefer pen and paper
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: uh,site?
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: finger alhena :)
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: uh, fing alhena?
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but I still feel the old method much easier
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: hmmm... amazon is dropping the price of the kindle fire
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have not used mush yet, but is there a way to make a LUA variable persist with MUSH?
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yep
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: both persist for your session and for every session
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: anyone know what things ill need to learn to be able to write an auto heal trigger for tinyfugue?
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ask lasher
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i cant, he has me on ignore.
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: speaking of gquest plug in , wars wats
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: typing on ipad is hard...want dat plug in link .. :'(
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: im on ipad too  sommany n and m instead of space
T3/r7/2012-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: is windows clock (specifically time zones) system based or user based?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: never thought about that
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: would assume user based
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: your time is set in your bios, right?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: system time is... i think windows clock is separate from that...
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: agree
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: windows sets/resets the bios time though
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think changing windows clock changes bios time
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ah, that's possible
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: only thing that might be user based is timezone? not sure on that
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: There is a HW clock that is the "real" time, but the timezone is just a display setting.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'll need to do some investigation, i guess
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: I know I changed the time in bios to bypass restriction on when you can log onto a computer.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, well, it's timezone i care about
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Typically it's a OS setting, not user setting.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: timezone setting is HKLM, local machine
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: sigh, ok
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: need to do math to get my timestamps into mudtime then :P
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: terminal services can do it per profile tho ;-)
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what anarchy are you up to myrk?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: What's a good pup tracker for MUSH? Sharp Tracker isn't letting me know
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: someing basty i would thnk
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: I have no clue what that means
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it means "finger bast"
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Thanks Abe
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: heav
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Miss
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkki Tech: uh, anyone else not being able to connect google.com ?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: doubt that will ever happen
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkki Tech: yea, was wondering since everything else works but that
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: isup.me
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: google.com not workimg == internet dead
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: yet aard working
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkki Tech: or hmm, did they change the ipv6 today
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: once.. i had a roter iasue
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: aard didnt work.. but other places did
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: My boss calls it "the googles"
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: from my ip mask.. aard worked.. yet it was a router issue somewhere
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: does bing work??
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: bing is ok for finding stuff that google blocks :P
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: What does google block?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkki Tech: -10
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well they did block btjunkie for example...
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: btjunkie shut themselfes down
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, how do you know that they don't block something more useful
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just remember google maps, when they had to blur some parts of military areas
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and other areas
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they don't own any satellites...
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all their info comes from declassified/released info
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what they received was blurred
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: not true, some parts maybe blurred - like from american sats blur american military areas
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: isup.me
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: oopsie
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but I am quite sure, that americans don't give google blurred map of military buildings in russia or poland
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, trachx, it's blurred before release to the public (google is the public)
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: google doesn't get anything special, they just get declassified nasa pix
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I thought a lot of google maps was aerial photography.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: why wouldn't they?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: some places google blurred after it was released to public view, several places actually around the globe
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the same as you can download from nasa
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: All Google Earth shots are satellite shots
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can only get aerial photography from places you're allowed to fly...
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Unless you're in a Blackbird :-P
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that generally precludes military sites
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, ya happen to have one of those handy?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: We should introduce overmax, gigamax and absomax into programming :P
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: max(a,b) returns a if a > b... overmax(a,b) returns a if a > max(a,b)...
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: abelinc, how do you set up the abewantedspells.txt ?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: bah, so many of these mush plugins require vbscript or are so out of date that they dont work X.X
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: anyone know of an up to date mush plugin site?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Vampiredude: All of the scripts still work on MUSHclient. It is a matter if the plugin is still supported by the mud or not.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Vampiredude: Which plugin are you looking at?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: turie i was looking at 8 of the ones from the nick gammon aardwolf plugins forum thread
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: but i think i have to install a vbscript engine for most of them
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: hmn, ok i found 8 more pages... ill give them a try =/
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: What would be the most likely reason why I can access some websites but not others?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: the sites are not down
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: network restrictions if you are at work
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I'm at home - certain key sites worked earlier but don't work atm. The same happened yesterday.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: gov't restrictions if you are in china
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: google, hotmail, youtube, all stopped working for example
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: but other websites load up fine
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: any of DNS issues, ISP routing problems, virus
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: does it say site is not available or redirects you somwhere else?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: not available
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: this happened yesterday, fixed itself eventually.....started again today.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: malfunctioning firewall or anti-virus
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: can you ping them?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yes, I can ping them somehow.....
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: just can't load up the webpage in my browser
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: try another browser
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I think I did already but I will try again
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: doesn't work.....
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: here's a weird thing, google just randomly started working again.....not hotmail/youtube though
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: did you change anythign in your network... vpn for example or proxy?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I haven't fiddled with any settings
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: also seeing as the problem resolved itself and then happened again, I don't think it's a result of any permanent changes to settings
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: sorry for so many questions, it really could be a lot of things
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I don't think it's malfunctioning AV software or anything since no computer on the network can connect to the site
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: unless it's specifically the router firewall that is malfunctioning
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: have you rebooted the router?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: no, I could give that a go
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: might wanna try a packet analizer too see what happens
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I will be back in a few mins, just gonna reboot router
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: rebooting the router fixed it. Any guesses what may have happened there?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Out of memory in NAT tables.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Why would that happen?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Too much bittorrent? :D
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: if I was out of memory in NAT tables, wouldn't /any/ new sites not load?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: why specifically hotmail/youtube/google
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: There is a reason a home router costs only a little money.... the software tends to be crappy.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, you said it was intermittant.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: DDRT it?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I don't actually know how to do that
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It could be many other things as well in the router, hard to know without detailed trouble-shooting.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it wasn't intermittent as such, I guess it just started working when I randomly rebooted the router before
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: sounds like the kind of thing a virus would do....i.e target main sites like hotmail/google/youtube
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I've scanned with up-to-date software though and found nothing
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: and if it was a virus I don't think rebooting the router would fix it
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I do use torrents as it happens, but never had this problem before
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If it happens again, you may want to try from some other OS and see if the problem is still there (e.g. knoppix)
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: my main machine is dual-boot with linux aswell
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, if it happens in linux as well, it's not a virus.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: but 2 different computers on the same network (one on windows xp, one on windows 7) had the same problem
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: that suggest it's not a software issue to me
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: but something screwy with the route
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: router*
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: anyway, it's going for now, ty all
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Gregor: it can be MTU related problem and routes
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: i.e. some routes can have smaller MTU than your default
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: that wouldn't be fixed by a router reboot
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: and in any case, that's what path mtu discovery is for
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe, I experienced such behaviour - some things worked (ssh, telnet) but for example dmesg through ssh failed
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: is there a possibility the fault could be at my ISPs end?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: hard to say, but you can use ping to diagnose it - use -l flag to specify MTU size
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sorry, not -l, don't know what option to use under win
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but you should also check network traffic in such situation, for windows the best will be wireshark
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Yeah, got wireshark installed - not exactly an expert at using it though
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for checking MTU you can use: ping -f -l 1472 www.dslreports.com (value after -l is packet size)
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I tried running pings and tracert and couldn't see any problems
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually default ping works regardles of MTU (because of small packets)
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I'll give it a try next time it screws up.....at least I know I can just reboot the router - not really a proper solution though
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so, ping works but not big packet transfer 
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, you should check whether there is route change after reboot - just traceroute before reboot and after and compare routes
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I bet the reason is not packet size, but rather icmp vs tcp.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, full NAT table could cause such behaviour
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: It's hard to troubleshoot the problem until it arises again.....and I have no clue what caused. All I know is tha tit was the second time it happened, so maybe it will happen again.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yes but as asked before, would a full NAT table only stop specific sites (i.e google/hotmail/youtube) from loading, while others worked fine?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is possible, some websites requires more sessions than other
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: if any did, it'd likely be those three I guess
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, tables could be flushed between tests
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarrek Tech: good morning, using MUSHClient, I have a variable name "ABC" with a current value of "hello world", how do I pull in its value in a Macro, so that the client sends, e.g. 'say hello world'?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: GetVariable("ABC")
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarrek Tech: didn't work :(
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarrek Tech: i'll check out the docs
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: didn't work is very vague
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarrek Tech: it sent 'say GetVariable("ABC")'
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: don't send to world
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: send to script
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and then do Send("say "..GetVariable("ABC"))
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarrek Tech: (trying, thanks)
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: for absolute safety you may need to do Send("say "..tostring(GetVariable("ABC")))   or   Send("say "..(GetVariable("ABC") or ""))
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because I believe you can't conncatenate nil  (in case ABC doesn't contain anything)
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarrek Tech: understood (I'm a pro coder in real life, just struggling w/ syntax)
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarrek Tech: how do I sent to script instead of world?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there should be a dropdown selection. hold on let me look
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ok, new plan
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarrek Tech: <--- listening carefully
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Macros are kinda crap. read this: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Macros#The_more_complex_and_more_powerful_way
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarrek Tech: neat website!
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I think threads would be useful to be honest.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: we have threads in the current forum set.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: But I could do without graphics, maybe I'm too traditional.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we do have threads, but I had mentioned [10 Jun 14:12:05] Abelinc answers 'navigation will be better when it's web-based, that is where it'll improve'
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: like this channel, maybe.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: right now i type 'forum' and see 23 themes i have little interest in.. a modern forum let's you see what topics are very active and have turned into multi-page discussions etc
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: help subscribe
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you don't know how to read the output...you can already see what topics are very active and have turned into multi-page discussions...
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not knowing how to use what is there, is not the same as what is there not being sufficient
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: make aliases for note read * and note threadinfo *
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: and being able to search the forum and post screenshots etc. would be neat
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: help note
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: people post screenshots all the time
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I search the forum all the time
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can already do that, though the screenshots thing would just be a plain html address instead of an embedded picture.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: ok, but there is a barrier to entry and endless typed commands could be replaced with simple mouse clicks
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: learn to script.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that barrier is imagined
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're on a MUD...you've already decided that that barrier doesn't exist
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Prion: Because typing commands in a text game is too much...
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, it's a text based game... I imagine you could make a plugin if you want
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: do u have stats on what percentage of active aard players actively post in the forum?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: unless you're on a phone, your client is very much able to reduce your playing session to an exclusive series of mouseclicks.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and if you dont want to type commands dont play a text based game
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you consider that to be a barrier, then you don't belong on Aard...if you don't belong on Aard, you don't belong on the Aard forum
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Technically, if you're on a smartphone, your typing IS clicks. :P
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Touch-screen that is.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: all typing is clicks
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: i belong on aard, but i still think there is a lot to gain and nothing to lose by embracing a modern forum
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually, we've all seen what there is to lose...
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: i mean it probably takes 15 minutes to set up a phpbb forum so why not
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Prion: it's actually rather significantly more complicated than that
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: so set it up if you like
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: see, you already just made the wrong decision
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: great, set one up, tell us about it, and maybe a few people will bother using it!
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: forgoing the game itself and creating it standalone is totally moronic
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: There is a nontrivial amount of complication involved in interfacing any web forum with the MUD's note system in a way that doesn't ruin both
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not if you want security.  And since most game-server entities typically want them tied to the game as well, you're talking about months of work and almost NO options coming anywhere close to what you actually want to do.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think he only wants a forum that is not connected to the note system
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but of course, with 265 hours spent on Aard in 9 years, I'm sure you're the expert on the community
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: the integration part i agree would be more involved.  but one can set up a stand-alone forum in the meantime
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it would be useless
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, that'd be stupid and alienating
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd be screwing over more users
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: you could always set one up. Just don't complain if no one uses it...
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: most ppl wont read it so what's the use?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: We have the note system, we have a wiki and we have fb, silly to have anything else.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no twitter?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: fb?! What's fb?!
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is twitter
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: There's even a twitterbot for double exp.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, that's unofficial, just my scripts :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: i'm not claiming to be an expert, just giving my humble an opinion as a player who would use such a forum.  surely not the only one.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but again if you want such a forum just set it up yourself
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: is irc yet alive, or was irc killed by fb and twitter
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there have been dozens of them set up through the years, dating back to geocities
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: IRC has its uses.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and they all failed
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: any official forums promoted on the actual aard website?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I use IRC
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: none that I know of.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: but I guess that might be why help www was created.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no need to clutter up an official site about aardwolf with a links page to stuff about aardwolf's players.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: actually, just about everyone I know uses IRC, but that probably says more about the people I know
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien flashes a mischievous grin at Ol' Dirty Fiendish.  Hmm. is it time to run and hide?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I didn't figure you to be hanging out with the kiddies, Fiendish.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: well the only other game i'm playing these days (star trek online mmo) has an in-game mail/forum system but the official web forum is extremely active and has been hugely helpful.  googling any question i have about the game i usually get a hit from the forum.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but that is not a text based game. It's totally different
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Hanslanda: the who?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: MMO's tend to have hundreds of thousands to millions of players
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Even if only 0.01% of them post on the forum, it will still appear "extremely active"
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Who don't necessarily have the patience to write in full :P
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: similarly when i google about aard (e.g. 'aardwolf autohunt script' i get a bunch of junk and have no idea what's good and what's not..
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: when I google 'aardwolf mushclient' I find exactly the right links
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well there's your problem, you're starting with google rather than aard
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: you know, there's one place with a lot of aard players who know these things...
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krimp Tech: dude, a web board integrated with the notes system is on lasher's to-do list, freakin let it go
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Battlepride Tech: im talking straight i rather prefer text based game over 3d, it works the brain so you dont go brain dead:P
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OkamiNya Tech: 3D can work your brain too...
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OkamiNya Tech: Though, I'm having trouble thinking of a 3D game that does that off the top of my head. :s
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: ok, that's good to hear, i'm just saying that one can't easily find info about aard using google, and i think new players could be attracted to the game if they see an active web board / community
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Battlepride Tech: but reading is better for mind..
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnbPhwajuqg
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OkamiNya Tech: You could say that looking at a 3D environment to assess a situation does that too.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: what might make it easier would be if notes were converted to a read-only forum accessible from the web. Like the blog thing.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OkamiNya Tech: Since you have to filter out the garbage and account for what's important.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I don't know about you, but I'm happy with 300+ online at any one time.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I don't think that conversion the other way really helps. Not for me at least.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm not so keen on having to filter out three times as many people on newbie as I have to now.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: yes 300+ is an improvement over what i remember it was 8/9 years ago.  but the more the merrier really, more ppl to group with, trade with, etc
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, there are workarounds to newbie channel overcrowding...
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if we ever had that (happy) problem, we could simply create nb1, nb2, nb3, etc. and randomly assign newbies to one of them
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: ...
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: And randomly assign helpers, Imms and advisors to one of them?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Eh, the more the merrier, until the game is overcrowded again
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Personally, I'm happy with 400 or thereabouts, more just leads to congestion.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, we'd have more advisors/helpers if we had a flood of newbies who stick. Eventually.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OkamiNya Tech: As long as newbies understand that reading is important in a text-based game, it should be fine.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'd be happier with more
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: yeh STO does the same, there are multiple instances of each place with players distributed across instances
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm just talking about the channels.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nb1, nb2, etc would be a very bad idea
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What's STO again?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: star trek online
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: That Star Trek MMO you were talking about?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: yep
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: johnny and his buddy sign up together, try talking to each other on newbie...oops, he's not there, why can't he hear me?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: would be cool to see 5k  actual ppl on here :p 
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: tells?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not a good answer, sonshi
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Vanion: not for me.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: No, Vanion, that would be awful.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not how channels work
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: having your first channel not work how channels work is stupid
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, we're very far from the sort of overcrowding that would make that desirable, anyway, it's a theoretical point
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: congestion can be dealt with
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: on sto it's just a matter of asking which instance they're on and joining the same if u want to group up.  e.g. there could be a recall #1, #2, #3 etc
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Maybe you should go play STO if you like that better?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien grins mischievously.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: dealing with congestion costsn money and the numer of players that donate drop
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: actually playing STO reminded me of aard and i came back lol... but nothing wrong with borrowing good ideas 
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but there is something wrong with borrowing bad ones
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: and which might that be
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Prion: yes, but I'm not so sure this multiple instance thing is a good idea.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: instances are not viable here
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for many reasons...some technical, some personnel
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: And you'd need to make all your friends log on to the same instance...
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Or bridge channels across instances.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: it's just an idea for how aard might deal with a huge increase in players.  unless u would turn away new players ?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: At least ftalk.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Simutronics uses them.  They are viable.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Prion: not dealing with a huge increase in players is not the same as turning away new players.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Not going to a buffet doesn't mean you don't intend to eat at all.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: viable, and viable here, are 2 different things
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: each of the two flagship Simutronics games are no bigger than Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: who said anything about being bigger?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What is Simutronics? Is it like Lasher?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if Lasher were a board of directors instead of one person, then yes.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: well it was suggested that a large increase in players would create problems,  it was suggested that other games use multiple instances to counteract those.  if you dismiss that idea and don't have any other solution to the problems, you presumbly will be turning away new players
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: No...
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how presumptuous of you :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I will leave Abelinc to answer that until I am out of the Partroxis :P
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are different types of problems which would arise, and they have different types of solutions
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: nothing presumptous about it, just logic.  if u believe having 3000 players creates problems and you dismiss a solution to that problem and have no alternatives, then either you break aard or you turn away new players
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I assume there can ber server and bandwidth problems
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Opting not to have 3000 players is not the same as turning away new players.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard would not be fun with 3,000 players, new players wouldn't need to be turned away
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: We still have new players coming in every day.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think it might be fun with 3000 players. The world would just have to get larger.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you think wrong, fiendish :P
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Abelinc: with 3000 players... some old players would be turned away.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: old players would leave, not be turned away
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: if you create 10 instances for populated areas, aard would be just as fun with 3000 players as it is with 300
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not in the least, prion
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but Fiendish is right about the world size. Aard is just too small for 3000+ players
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Who would win GQs then?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: GQs would just need a player cap
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OkamiNya Tech: GQs could be separated into brackets. People who win lots of GQs will GQ with each other, and people who haven't GQ with newbies.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: And I can just go to the instance with less competition, to avoid getting PKed?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Or you'd have 10 copies of the same GQ?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: presumably that would balance itself
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: more presumption without reason?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: there would be ways to allow GQs with more players around i'm sure
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Such as?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I see no reason to believe that players would run to instances for less competition without other players also doing the same
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: either you can choose your instance, or your friends get screwed
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Fiendish: true, and those who stay on the same instance instead of toggling win the GQ.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you don't see the reason of most players...
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you think light or SK wouldn't flock to one place?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: each GQ could have a special instance and player cap for example
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: OK, having more instances of the same area would make things more comfortable for pupping, for instance.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: player caps...isn't that what you were just against?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: But I would have to log on to another instance to spellup a friend, for instance.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: eh, just randomly assign players to one group upon joining... it'll all even out in the end.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: for in-game missions, player caps would mean the odds of winning are more reasonable
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Group of what, Sonshi?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: the games i've seen which use instances allow it to be switched easily.  in aard it would probably be a simple /switchinstance command or similar
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: with a lot of (say) 3000 players, players may become annoyed at not being able to complete their quests, or find enough leveling mobs -- so players leave, and the number of players drops to what the mud may handle without being too annoying to players staying -- overcrowding annoyances reduces numbers, and is self-regulating
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Would I have 10 instances of my manor, then...
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: from what i've seen instances are usually created / deleted in real time as needed.  on STO the cap is 70 players before a new one is created
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Aardwolf would be rather lonely with only 70 players
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: That is interesting, to be fair.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: so yes if 70 players were at your manor aard would probably create another instance of it
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: And I would have two copies of the items I put on the floor there?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: group, instance, of the gq, or whatever they were talking about
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: now that creates possibilities Trurien
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ending up with dozens of reset tokens
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I could put something valuable on the floor, invite all my friends to my manor, and toggle between instances, picking up both.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Of course, you could code something in to make it unique across instances.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so, the only thing needed is to drop a lot of tokens and then gather 71 people in one room ?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: should be easy with 3000 players
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Then I would log in one night on the wrong instance and complain to the Imms that my item was missing...?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: well, that's an example of something that would need to be addressed.  not an insurmountable challenge i guess
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Not a challenge we need to address, either...
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I like to think Aardwolf has survived this long -because- we don't have to deal with thousands of players.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: yes because we don't have 3000 players.. and apparently nobody is overly keen to have that many players either
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: agree to the second part
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: with 7x more players, there may be 7x more spam
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: and 7x more content creators, 7x more donations, which according to 'help donate' may allow lasher to dedicate more time to dev, etc
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: with 7x more players, are newbies going to line up for their turn at leveing mobs
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Prion you were right about one thing. Not many player here want that many on aard
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: readiug all the forum notes is tedious with the current 400.  With 7x more players and 7x more notes, the lower admin may be very busy reading and filtering forum notes to pass up to the higher admin
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because that's an insurmountable problem
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: We don't need 3000 players.  My 'who ignored' is long enough as it is.
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: and are the lower admin going to be unbiased in filtering notes -- unlikely
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mardus Tech: is phpDocumentor2 good? Or is there any better solutions?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Is the time between quests actually slightly less than 30 minutes?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: timing is never exact
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: here is a brain bustr
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: buster *
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I am currently in my bedroom on the 3rd floor of my duplex, my router is on my first floor, I'm mudding happily no lag or anything everything is great, I get a little hot so I turn my fan on in the window and BOOOM lag spikes constantly until I turn the fan off... please explain :P
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fans are huge generators of static interference
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: electric motors in general are full of interference
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: fair enough
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: guess I go to sleep now then, cause fan is more important than the mud right now LOL
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can try giving it the tinfoil treatment ;-)
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: tinfoil treatment? :
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i.e. shield it...think of the conspiracy nuts with their tinfoil hats...they're not wrong about why they use them
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twigg Tech: is there a way to have what others are saying just in the com log?
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click it, echo
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "is there a way" generally has "yes" as an answer
T3/r7/2012-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twigg Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: is there an aard app for windows phones ?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Not that I know of.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: ok i have downloaded midpssh now how do i play
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: on mxit now
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Got a PC to connect to?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: no only phone
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm. you could probably telnet in to aard via SSH, but that defeats the purpose of using it
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: midpssh supports telnet just fine
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I know it does, but the whole reason for using SSH is to link to a full function client on a separate computer, right?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: ok ill see
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's what i would do, but i doubt a mxit player has access to a remote machine or a vps
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: never mind the technical capacity if they have problems connecting via telnet :P
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: ok im confused how about we do it step by step i have downloaded pssh on my phone and i have opened it
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: midpssh*
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: connect to aardmud.org (telnet) on port 23,4000 or 4010
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: how?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: the help on midpssh says sessions new then host and details?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the menu has only couple of options. you have the details as well. figure it out
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A choleric Klaun Tech: i am tryin to make a speedwalk for 'the call of heroes' on the aardmush and cant get the 'knock door' part to work, anyone know what im missin? as of know its on a seperate line from the rest of the speedwalk...
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: try <speedwalk>;;knock door
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A choleric Klaun Tech: ahhh i only had 1 
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: You could always just make a custom exit.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: That way your client will automatically knock door
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A choleric Klaun Tech: have no idea how to do that, i just started using mush today, was previously usin cmud
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: mapper cexit knock door :)
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A choleric Klaun Tech: have to be in that room?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A choleric Klaun Tech: to create the cexit i mean
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: You are using the aard mush, right?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A choleric Klaun Tech: yep
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: So go to the room, use the command, and the client will do it, then record the room you land in as 'knock door's destination
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A choleric Klaun Tech: ok cool thanks a lot
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: Extensively map areas, add your cexits, and paired with WinkleWinkle's Search & Destroy plugin, you have yourself a godlike client :)
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: You can use cexits for nopass doors/portals too
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: For instance. mapper cexit o n;;n
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A choleric Klaun Tech: awesome ill have to start playin around with that
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A choleric Klaun nods.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A choleric Klaun Tech: right on, appreciate the help
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: IN room portals to be clear - portals that can be used anywhere have their own function.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: :)
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: the mapper portals option can be used for portal aliases in your inventory. The portals I was referring to were inroom portals, as Mendaloth said.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Valkyrie Sammael.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A choleric Klaun Tech: ok cool, think i got it, thanks again :)
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Valkyrie Sammael beams a smile at A choleric Klaun.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You guys have helped me with a few annoyances.  Anyone know how to have different default printers for different programs in Windows 7?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the program itself would need to keep a preference for it
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A choleric Klaun Tech: ok i made the cexit without a problem, how do you record the destination room?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's done as part of making the cexit...it should move you automatically iirc
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A choleric Klaun Tech: right it did, but it wont do the command automatically
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: are you still talking about portals?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: if so you have to stand in the room the portal leads to when entering the command
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A choleric Klaun Tech: no not portals, its where you 'knock door' for the call of heroes
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: then you'd just do mapper cexit knock door and it should take you to the new room and wait about 2 seconds and record the exit
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A choleric Klaun Tech: right i got that, how do you record the exit, it shows up that i have it in there, and shows me the id of the destination room, but wont do it automatically
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so if you move yourself to before the cexit, and then do mapper goto <something past it>, what does it do?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A choleric Klaun Tech: alright thanks, i get it now, just bein retarted this mornin apparently
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: In the aard MUSH, how do I set a specific room as the area's start room?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: My mapper runs halfway through an area before stopping
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you sure it's the mapper? How do you run to it
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably S&D - then xset mark
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: Ahh. Thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I've got a problem
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: My macbook is slowing down like mad
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Buy a windows computer.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Genuis Bar?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: good news, WWDC is today and new MBP are being launched
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Indeed. Barred genuises.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: 2199 for base model 15.4"
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coignar Tech: Surprisingly, they're coming out with a lot of new ones today. Coincidence?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: but of course, gotta get the 768gb SSD and 16gb ram option
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I have to say 768GB SSD does sound nice.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: isn't macos some kind of bsd ? then it should have command line and top to monitor CPU
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: nothing like a 3k+ laptop.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I wonder what the power consumption is like though. Or battery life.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: up to 7 hours, and 30 day standby
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: you have all the linux commands from terminal trachx
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Unix commands, Abel.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: hello to 5+ battery modules
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: yeah yeah
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: it's all *nix
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: No, it's not.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: why did the computer people decide to use "finger" as the name of the command? was it a joke or didn't people use that word in this.. vulgar way?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: no, you put your finger in that mouse and roll it aroun. nothing vulgar in that
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: nerds have no such thing as vulgar for that
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: on.  on the mouse.   (*eww*)
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Just finger Sneak aand be done with it.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: oh look its ADHD kid
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: I dont get it
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: slowly roll your mouse around and fondly have love with it...nothing vulgar in it
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: read origins of Finger here: http://www.rajivshah.com/Case_Studies/Finger/Finger.htm
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: ok:)
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coignar Tech: Thanks, Suon. That's pretty interesting stuff
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: np. i used a while back in college
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: interesting piece
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: haX0r
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: "one of them people higher up thought Finger implied some sort of grotesque image and thought Finger should be renamed. I dont know how there minds worked, but they thought it had obscene connotations" 
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: They were just thinking of what they did to your mom last night.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: my mom is not discussible on tech
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Attack Vector Tech: i giggle just a little every time i type it... but then im terribly immature 
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hell, we can't even discuss her on curse.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: geez you gained a troll level somewhere?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: well I guess apple is now really pushing gaming
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: with Stig?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: with gamecenter and airplay compatibility for games
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: highlight was Stig
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sneak beams with pride.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: top gear stig?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: fake stig
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, nice
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: the stig is coming to SA !
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What in the world is Stig?!
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: lmgtfy
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: no u
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: on the midpssh phone client what is the purpose of the direction key on the right of my screen
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: anyone
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no idea
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mudders don't tend to use phones
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: tried puching it?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: pushing
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: sadly this mudder has no choice
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Punching tech works a lot of times though.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yeah punching might work too lol
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: what os you got ?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: uhm no maybe keep that as plan B
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: symbian im on the client now it works just pushing those buttons to no avail
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: clear the buttons
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: what do you mean clear
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: remove
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: how do i go about doing that
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: how do i reset all the mini windows in mushclient?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: resetaard, I believe, for the fiendish ones.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Decimator is agreeing with that Martini & Tyebald person again...
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: bast or other mini windows may not respond.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: is there a way to tell mapper to find a different route to a mob?   (for example, I'm in a GQ and I want it to NOT use my non-golden chaos portals?)
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cera: It choices the shortest distance to the room you want.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I'm guessing you will need to write this plugin.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, so no, there isn't. okay, thanks.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: tell your mapper to stop using your non-golden chaos portals :P
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: but the times im in a GQ are FAR FAR outweighed by the times I'm not.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmm... in the first place, how do you tell mapper to go to a mob?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Remove the portal from your portals list.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: go to a room.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: typing that brings up a goal listing for me... Is this the aardmush mapper we're talking about here?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hunt trick for the room name, then run to that room.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the command is mapper goto, not "go to"
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: ohhhh
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: for me it's just "go" :P
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: now it says The mapper goto command expects a room id as input.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah mapper goto is fairly useless
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: bots, the lot of you. The real pros just use raw telnet.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I didn't know rooms had ids...
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Or simulate TCP packets with tuning forks..
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i have ma aliased to "mapper area"  and mf alaised to "mapper find" and I use that to pull up the room, then just click.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: lol tru now that would be a sight :p
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Runtur Vanion hits tuning form and places it closert to ear
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien watches as Runtur Vanion's head explodes.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: the new matrix :) since im deaf ive got space to fill :p *rofl
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the real pros don't say anything about their client, they just sit quietly plucking their tin-can strings.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien snips the string.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: ninja is the only real pro, he has a chaos portal to 60% of the rooms in the game
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Irrelevant, moving on.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Live Action Mudding?  That'd be weird.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: pft. Trying mapper find crashed my mushclient
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh well, the old ways aren't doing so badly, even now...
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mapper find doesn't even work for me
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: seems fine for me and i'm slow
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I tried mapper find grand. It seemed to be doing something. Then it was "not responding"
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i just get "Sorry Santher, I don't understand you."
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: try something not so common
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I recently upgraded to the new mushclient
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: how many rooms you think have grand in them
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: good point
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Based on my own map data, looks like there might be between 50 and 75 rooms with that word in their names.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I get "Found 90 targets matching '%grand%'. Your search returned more than 50 results. Choose a more specific pattern."
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Found 102 targets matching '%grand%'. Your search returned more than 50 results. Choose a more specific pattern.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I obviously have not mapped as much as you. hehe
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lol...I have 105 :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I wonder if I should lower the threshold from 50 to something like 20
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Best make it toggleable
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Toggleable would be better.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 35 paths with a significant portion unreachable at 300 rooms finished in only a few seconds for me
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Found 10665 targets matching '%the%'.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Found 27030 targets matching '%a%'.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I did "mapper find hell"
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Hrmm...I have 41.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how long does it take to search?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: 0.3 seconds to show them all.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 0.3 seconds to find 41 paths?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The ones with hell.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh you're using quicklist mode
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's probably a good option for sonshi
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I wonder if using mapper to run to rooms is faster than my usual keypad navigation...
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: most certainly
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: especially if the destination is more than just a few rooms away
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: typing mapper this mapper that does take some time...
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Well, shorten it with aliases
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if only the client had some sort of mechanism for making aliases
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: 'ma' -> 'mapper area' or whatever
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: and I can't remember the room ids offhand...
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I believe this particular problem has many easy solutions
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: and it doesn't use my portals...
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that sounds like you haven't configured it
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: aw, so it doesn't recognise my portals automatically? Heh, guess that would be asking for too much...
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish gets a blank look on his face.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how do you suppose it would do that?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: fiendish, its impossible to make your plugin idiot proof.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: um... I suppose it could see where the portal goes when I enter it or something
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are you seriously asking, Fiendish?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Cera: I'd be happy if people just read the online documentation
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Reading?  Hahaha.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: where's the documentation?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yeah.  i'm at fault sometimes too.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Sonshi: in your mushclient folder there is a file called AardMUSH_README.html
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: open that in a web browser
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh... that one. People still use readme files?!
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and let me know if anything can be done to make it more useful
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: from the "where it goes" side, you could include a list of portals with known destinations, perhaps stored in an x=y format, where x is however you wish to identify the portal and y is the gmcp room number.  Being that the mapper runs on GMCP, it's probably trivial enough to query its own database to see if that GMCP number is in it.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Hanslanda: so you want the mapper to explore every item in your inventory looking for portals and/or containers of portals?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: As a mapper script-author, I would probably tie that to a known inventory plugin.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: And what about portals that didn't exist yet?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hey fiendish, that'd be cool!  when ya gonna add that?  :p
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: (*HeHe*)
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Fiendish, you could have the supposed plugin identify all the items to find the portals, then have the player flag the room the portals go to, if you are actually considering adding this to the mapper.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: I expect a new version released with the updated portal list within 12 hours of a new portal's release.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: ;)
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Me too. Someone should update this stupid thing more often.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: And then what about when players want to use a special alias to get portals from bags?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: the last time I downloaded the aard mushclient, I figured it couldn't possibly get any better, and didn't upgrade for years.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: people are silly that way
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's a feature now that alerts you of recent changes when a new update is available
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Heh, I alias portals to the area name :) Beats runto.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: is upgrading still a pita?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I suppose that depends on how familiar you are with the process. For me it takes about 3 seconds.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Actually that's a lie. I'm just always using the latest version by default.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: so how do you update it
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Some compiler command, no dobut.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: doubt*
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, have the inventory plugin do all the inventory work.  Assuming the results could then be published for external access (ie, by other plugins), the mapper would just need to query for the portals.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Making upgrades substantially simpler is unfortunately complicated.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What's the problem, though?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Hanslanda: and then do what with the information?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: What if someone does not want to add a particular portal to their list?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I would probably change that to have a use toggle.  No sense in not having the portal in there at all.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: the current system for portals works just fine
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: a portal has to be linked toa room?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: anyway, I'm not going to write this because it sounds like a lot of work for not a lot of benefit. but I do accept code submissions if they don't suck.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Santher: don't portals normally go to a room?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i mean to use one...
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: And don't portals normally go to a room?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yes they do, but why can you only use from the rooms you set it for?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Who says that?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mapper help?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: It never says that.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: says they function like cexits?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: they function like cexits from anywhere to the room you are standing in when you set them up
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah no way around that limitation?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what limitation?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you want to set a portal without being in the room it goes to?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so i don't have to set a cexit for every portal from every room in the mud?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Do you realize once you have it set it works from anywhere?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: It would make sense to only have the destination of a portal stored...
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: you don't set your portals with the cexit command if that's what you mean
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there is a reason why the portal command is not the cexit command
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah so i'm just misreading the help?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess I could be more explicit about this in the online documentation
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Santher: yes
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i should ignore the part about cexits?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not "ignore" as such. just understand what I meant when I wrote it.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: mapper portal is the command you wanna use, check the helpfile under portals
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah mapper portal <command>        --> Link a hand-held portal alias to the current location as a custom exit
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I would be happy to rewrite that to say whatever you think describes the function better.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just send me a new description and I'll make the appropriate changes
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: yeah only that this is a custom exit that works from any room on the mud, instead of just a specific room you set with cexit
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: we; that makes a lot more sense :)
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: how about "mapper portal <command>        --> Link a hand-held portal alias from any location as a custom exit"?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: from any location to the current room?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah, i figured current room was implied with using a portal *shrug*
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: It may not be
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: done. it will be in the next release.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher smiles happily.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: uhrr.. if i 'where don' it says 'an amethyst sea' yet when i use bast autohunt it says no one in this area by that name
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: he's nohunt
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hunt albatross
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: ahh thanks!
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I am having a problem with the statmon miniwin, and it has a deja vu feel, what am i messing up? "59: invalid escape sequence near '"Strength     : '"
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: did you change something?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Unfortunately most things with respect to file locations
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: overly compulsive desktop cleanup
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: did you change something inside the mushclient folder?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: its location, but not contents
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so when did this problem start?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: After I moved everything to a new folder.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I see
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well I'm sure I know what the problem is. I just don't see what might have precipitated it.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: No offense intended, you sound like the elisa program right now:)
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Give me an idea what you think it is, and I will see what I can do.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: give me a second to find something online first
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: np, I have 18 minutes left to enjoy myself (jk)
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Arnica: can you type "checkversion" for me?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: r1557, I updated to see if it resolved the issue.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that bug should have been fixed at 1542
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: does the problem still exist?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Yes, and I am sure it is not a bug, everything worked fine before I moved it around.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: can you quit and log back in for me?
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I generally quit, close the world, exit, reopen, open world. I will do that
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: OK back. no statmon miniwin
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I suspect that you may have an old version of the plugin somewhere lying around, and that moving things somehow caused your world file to point to the old incompatible version instead of the newer one
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: When cleaning up, I did notice a huge number of old versions, so that is likely. Let me spend some time getting rid of all old aard-ware. Nevermind until I get back to it, it may be days.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr laughs out loud at Arnica.
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Funny for you ...
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: banjo plays
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the quickest solution is to edit your world file so that the plugins section points to the right place
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Linkdead) Fuego Tech: Mac Users:  Which Client is best/
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define best
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Linkdead) Fuego Tech: good response 
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Linkdead) Fuego Tech: Best suited for a programmer
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define best
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Linkdead) Fuego Tech: Got it
T3/r7/2012-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish is glad to have been of service.
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: this there a way to tell the mapper to use normal exits?
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: mapper walkto
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Also, the _longest_ cexit is chosen. This can be manipulated.
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I mean, using this, you can manipulate the order of cexits taken.
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err i meant hidden exits
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Maybe you mean "mapper cexit push brick" style?
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i think i might have to use mapper cexit north
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Sounds weird. Maybe opening the door would suffice? :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hmm maybe
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i jusat need to a way to force the mapper to learn exits
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Where?
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: palace of song
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Which room ID? I'll have a look. This sounds interesting.
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: 47058
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: opening the door worked :P
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra -)
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: wtb tinyfugue client script/trigger/whatever its called, that will run on a timer to re-cast spells every so many minutes
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Woolffang Tech: can i get dfg
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Woolffang Tech: can i get mccp on bbssh?
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: woolfgang why would you be using ssh?
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: blackberry i guess
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Woolffang Tech: yes blackberry
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Woolffang Tech: is there a better client for black berry?
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nah, VD just likes asking why
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Woolffang Tech: bbssh isent rely good lol but it wil do
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: is that like mudding with telnet? :P
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: can anyone help me with setting up muschlient to try using abelinc's autoquaff script? 
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: do the Bast mush scripts have an inbuilt help? if so does anyone know how to access pls
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think all the help is on the website
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i tried installing it, but it says Alias function"autoquaff_settings" not found or had a problem.
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: in the latest mushclient i'm getting this error message "trigger fundtion"chats" not foundor had a previous error
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: hey, if i install abelincs auto practice script for mush, and i set autoprac percent 10, that will practice things until they reach 11%? or it will practice anything from 10% to 100% ?
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: oh weird, i installed the stats detector from nick gammons page, and now it says We've got plenty of health. No need to fire
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: does that mean abelinc's auto quaff works now?
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: does anyone have idea why when I add a bt mouse, it works fine, when I turned it on again in 1-2 days it's slow
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and I have to re-add device
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: argh why is this abelinc plugin so buggy =(
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: write a better one
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: how can i keep from idling offline in mushclient?
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: go afk ?
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: set a trigger for   Your eyes glaze over.
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Battlepride Tech: how you set a trigger? Pluggin?
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Friend) VampireDude Your eyes glaze over.
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: hmmn, it doesnt seem to work?
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Battlepride Tech: thanx..
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Vampiredude: You need look at that too.
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ok, so 'You very hungry, you'r healing is reduced. 
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: oops, typo
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: os "You are very hungry. Your healing is reduced. "
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: mush.i got one plugin windows stuck so i cannot move it. removing the plugin doesn't help. come back at the same place. what to do ?
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what plugin?
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: winkles s&d
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sucks to be you, then
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: yep. sucks
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: there is a command to reset the winkle windows, don't remember what it is though
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeah me either
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: why cant i scroll up and down on the phone client midpssh
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe itd oesn't support scrolling up and down?
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it doesn't
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: wow practicing spells at high level is going to be a pain
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: aurus, why not use abelinc's auto-practice plugin
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: cause i just got the client yesterday my first time using a client ever and i have no idea how any of this works
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ah. k
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: of someone could tell me how that would be great
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's an autopracticing plugin for midpssh?
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: any it geeks here ?
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: did you try turning it off and on again?
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Woolffang Tech: hi
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Woolffang Tech: i need help connecting to the testport from bbssh
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: it's the same as connecting to the main port.
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Woolffang Tech: i input all the info shown in help connect and it wont connect
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Just use the address given...
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: It should work, it does for me.
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Probably a setting on your side, then.
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Woolffang Tech: i used the one under testport and port 6555 but nothing
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Woolffang Tech: 66.228.127.35 is correct?
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: aardmud.net 6555
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Woolffang Tech: last question helpfile on editing your qp/ level on test?
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: did you do what i said to do on newbie?
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Woolffang Tech: i have 0 idea what a blirp is lol
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the big message when you log in that says Testers - please read
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Woolffang Tech: ok let me go check
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Woolffang Tech: it gows straight to the test picture thingie
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i said after you log in :P
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Woolffang Tech: ok im loged in walking around never saw what you mentiond im missing somthing sorry
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: before that... after you've entered your password it shows a message, then you need to press enter to get to the proper game...
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Woolffang Tech: it doesent show that here after i type in my pin it gows to aylor no pressing enter straight in
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm, that's strange...
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: anyway, the message you're supposed to be getting is in help motd
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Woolffang Tech: nod lol so no helpfile i can read up on?
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Woolffang Tech: wow thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help testcommands
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just made a new character and i get it, so...
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: right, which is mentioned in the motd, abe
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a good thing to read there and here is "help newtester"
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't use MUSHclient, but IMO a tier should be good enough to use what they really want for exit level locks, as opposed to portal level locks
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the portal ones are set up very specifically because of equipment limits...the exit ones are pretty much a kludge to avoid places
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my take, anyway
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's just difficult to change either after they're set
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mean wholesale, or it's hard to modify a single one? can't you re-right-click to re-set it?
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you remember that it's set
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a year after setting a lock you may have tiered a few times
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and forgotten about it
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, then best solution is mapper lock list (if it doesn't exist)
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is something I was just about to say.
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then when people say "why's mapper go this way instead of through drageran", we can suggest checking it out
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: much like we now suggest checking out portal alias defs
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you've been asking to group for the past hour and haven't levelled once, zehir... you could have gotten a few levels solo by now instead of wasting your time begging here...
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if I have a SELECT name AS name2
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can I specify the type of the name2 frield
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: field
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: name has a type already. specifying the type is silly
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: name2 isn't a field, it's just an alias
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I want to have column1 * column2 * 0.80 and show it as totals
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's a discount
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but the numbers in totals are xx.0000000 etc
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so format your output?
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: So there should be an integer conversion function
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: select round(column1 * column2 * 0.80, 2) as totals
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you really don't want to produce integers
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but you can format your output to fit %0.2f
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the round doesn't output error but doesn't round it either
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's select round(G.price * O.purchased * 0.8,2) as 'Discounted'
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if I put a random number instead of the expression
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it rounds it put still displays it as
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: 8 digits
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: cast(round(G.price * O.purchased * 0.8,0) as float) works
T3/r7/2012-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: also as money works
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}offline from 23:00:00 on June 12th through 06:35:54 on June 13th
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Anyone here who can help me with a network speed issues?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Noone I guess..
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just asking the question usually yields better results
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I connected two pc's together with a straight CAT5e cable and made a ad-hoc network (Both 1Gig ports)
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: But not getting more then 25Mb per second speeds...
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Don't you need a crossover cable to do that?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: thought so too
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I cleared the DNS, disabled IPv6, disabled auto-tuning and removed RDC
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Yeh, I was thinking the same
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: But shouldn't matter much nowadays
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Maybe thats why the speed is limited
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: recently network cards automatically do the cross for you.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it's probs zero-day exploits right Starling?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Agreed with GentooX
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Shut up, Gregor.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: So, then again - why are the copy speeds over the ad-hoc network so low?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Duplex is on auto
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: could be the write/read speeds of your devices
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: They are both SATA HDD's 
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Should be around 300mb/s then
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it must be your cable then.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I highly doubt that, but I can try a new cable
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's the sata controller speed not the drive itself
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: True
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: They are both laptops, so they are on a 5400 RPM disk
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there you have it
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: try a CAT5E cable
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: try hd-tune to determine the drive read/write speeds. i'm sure you'll get the same result
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I am Gentoox :)
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sorry i misread it.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I'll try that out Dagnir
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I think your right Dagnir
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I just copied it from the sata drive to external e-sata drive
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: It's between 40-60mb per second
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Nice. Win7 has 15 updates today. lol
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is there a way to have different sensitivity for external mouse and touchpad
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: without using soft
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nope
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: such functionality would either be part of the OS or would be something
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well I'm asking if the OS has it, win 7
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: err, something made accessible via the installation package.  Either way, you're using software to do it.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: nod
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it has drivers for the touchpad but I can't see soft
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the mouse is 3k dpi or something so it's bizarre
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Windows has no such thing internally, it is quite dumb with not linking setting profiles to different PnP devices (though idk if Apple or *nix do it either)
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the mouse does have app tho, maybe it can do the thing
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Which is better, iPad 3 or the Galaxy Tablet?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: There are several utility programs out there originally designed for PC drawing tablet calibration that should do the job
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: nod I found some apps
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: just looked natural the OS to have this profile support
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Turie, Galaxy if you know what you're doing, iPad if you are buying it for a technical neanderthal
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sounds like the Galaxy is better.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well dammit the razer driver still uses the windows sensitivity :(
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Anyone knows how to restore the missing Preferences and Administration menu items in GNOME? My System menu is quite empty now...
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: copy from other user ?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Copy... what?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: there is a command to restore gnome to defualts.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: can you right click and edit menu?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: they have options listed already, it's probably in there somewhere
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: try ctrl+alt+F7
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Abel: that's mapped to my GNOME display..
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: wait first do rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: then the F7
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What is Ctrl-Alt-F7 supposed to do?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: And I don't know what else is in those folders...
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: i i right click the icon, then edit menu, then there's system dropdown menu, and two options in the right panel for preference and administration
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: unless you have to find new item, then google search where gnome would store the preference/administration and add them
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: i'm reading bits and pieces. logout, hit alt+ctrl+f1 to start cli, then rm those, then hit alt+crtl+f7 to start x and it should reset all of your panels to default
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: also there's a revert option, which restores menu to default
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: No there isn't Chemosh.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: on mine there is, maybe yours is different
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: From Askubuntu = Logout, switch to command line (Alt+ctrl+F1), login, do: rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity, switch to X (Alt+ctrl+F7).
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ah, you mean delete those directories and restart GNOME?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: up
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: err yup
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Well, I would have tried that but I'm not sure what's in there that my settings might need.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'll move them to a different name....
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm using Debian, btw.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Brb..
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Well, that didn't work.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: And I managed to restore almost all my settings, good thing I moved them instead of just deleting :D
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: So looking for second answers. :P Thanks though Abel :)
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have you killed gnome after deleting ?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I logged out and logged in again.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Should that not be enough, considering login is only done by gdm?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I would do: adduser to add user, log into that user, run gnome (if you log in console), then check and compare contents of that hidden dirs 
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Did that.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'll try again after laser.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you use default menu, then you could kill X jsut to be sure that nothing is cached (CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE) after renaming those dirs
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: in most new distributions, you have to enable ctrl+alt+backspace
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yeah I did.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: want to buy undetectable level bot
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arystul whines, "Hey, I was only joking!"
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alain Johns Tech: MUSHclient is open-source, isn't it? What language was it written in, anyone know?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: C++
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's a github project for it
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alain Johns Tech: Thanks, Fiendish
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alain Johns hugs Ol' Dirty Fiendish.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: good luck getting it to compile though
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it requires MFC support
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which means express versions of VC++ are out
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: So it's free... but not quite.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Are there open clones of MFC, or ports?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not sure. I find it unlikely.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there are threads on the forum about getting it to build
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you may want to read through them
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mostly because Nick uses a really really old version of visual studio, and microsoft likes to break things
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I wish zugg updated cmud more often.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Or at all.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: haha
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: he seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth :P
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that happens when you get promoted in a very large, and apparently fast-growing, software development company in DC.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not necessarily
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if it were me and I hadn't already done so, I'd do what Nick did a long time ago and put the source on github
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, i wish he would, but we both know it'll never happen
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did Nick ever have anyone walk off with his code before doing that?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Hanslanda: are you suggesting Zugg no longer has access to the CMUD code?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: not that i particularly want to update it myself, seeing as it's written in delphi :P
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish laughs out loud at The Reaper Myrkul.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeah but at least it would be /possible/
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: No, long, long time ago Zugg decided to bring in someone to help him on ZMud.  Said guy ran off with the code and created a bunch of cracks.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Hanslanda: I don't see what that has to do with FLOSSing the codebase
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: err, that's a new one.  What's FLOSS stand for?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: some guy was a jerk to zugg and so now zugg gets to be a jerk to everyone else?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: fiendish, that seems rational
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh sorry. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open-source_software
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: up until last year, Zuggsoft.com was a primary source of income.  Losing it is like depositing your paycheck into your bank account and having the bank steal most of it.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: hans, my bank was like that, but i switched to a credit union and now its free to deposit checks
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lol. checks
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: never even seen one
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: we still have plenty of elderly secretaries who haven't embraced the computer age.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: How do you know what they are if you've never seen one?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: maybe he's eaten them while blindfolded.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wikipedia
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: They're still useful for giving people large sums of money after the bank is closed.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: or if they dont want to go to your bank with you
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: internet/phone banking ftw
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: They were talking about zugg/cmud, what does your damn credit union have to do with anything?  Shove off.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: dagnir, yes, cause then when someone steals your phone, they have access to everything you own
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nope. we have smart cards in sim cards and id cards for authentication
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: They even have them with fingerprint identification nowadays
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: you ever mess with CAC cards?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: have phone companies gotten around yet to storing everything in one place?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: two auth levels: identification and digital signature. 1024bit rsa is pretty safe afaik
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: rsa - safe unless we figure out quantum computing
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they're getting closer, I hear.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, smart cards are awesome
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: smart cards?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Think they built a 2-unit quantum computer a couple of years ago
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: they've also run shor's on one, too, I hear. A small case, but...
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I wonder if it's possible that some secret government project has already created one fast enough to crack RSA in a reasonable time. If they have, they sure wouldn't tell us about it...
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. my key is issued by the government :P
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: in the most recent bast_plugins is there a way to squelch the identification output in the main window when using the mneq plugin?  It's spamming my main window with identifies as I look through my objects with mneq.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: How can I retain the formatting from aard text into a textfile?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what client?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Mush, I just wnat to lift the text from the feed
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Interrogates, items, etc
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which feed?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Main, not com
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and do you want to do it programmatically or manually?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Well...whatever way is easier. When I just copy and paste I cannot paste special because none of my word processing software sees it as special
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you have to use Ctrl+D to copy if you want to grab color codes
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: assuming you are using the aardwolf mushclient package
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Specifically Spacing
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Yes, I am using the aardwolf mushclient package
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try copying with ctrl+d instead of ctrl+c
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or use Ctrl+LeftClick
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the spacing gets preserved, it just doesn't look like it unless you use a monospaced font in your text editor
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh, that too
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Ah... that could be it, thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: That was it, thanks a bunch guys
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: is there any 'normal' color coding for bicycyle wires that wound suggest a brown or a sky blue color's polarity?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: your bicycle has wires?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: vorpes yes? it was on sale 
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: it has some freaking 40 pound battery too
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: my legs felt like butter after the first 2 miles.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hmm headlight on it or an electric bell?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: vorpes it was made by currietech.com
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i didnt buy a bell yet, and the headlight uses its own battery.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: it was super cheap though 'cause the store didnt have any manuals and the lock was busted
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: in my experience with wiring for anything it is usually only standardized for each model and not even for a specific brand
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=currietech.com+bicycle+wire+diagram
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: vorpes, that ink failed :P
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: and i dont know the model.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well you better do some research then
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: why.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: its pretty simple. 2 wires. 2 terminals.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, the link worked fine for me
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: abelinc really? for me it said that it wasnt found
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well you could submerse them in water and put a small test tube over each seperate end
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it didn't, you didn't bother using the link, you just guessed at what was posted
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: then which ever one displaces more water faster will be your anode
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: clicking manuals directly on the front page of the site fails, the link that was posted worked fine
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: abelinc want me to take a screenshot of it failing?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and then I'll reiterate that what you're posting a screenshot of is not the link you were given
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: this process would be called electrolisis of water and what you are doing is breaking apart the water molecule
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: If you're using the aardwolf client, you need to right-click the link and choose the correct option
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: the negative terminal will attract the positive ion which in this case is hydrogen
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: abelinc well, if i knew how to take a screenshot, and had a place to post it, i'd make you eat those words.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: red cat, an ox
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: ..it's a completely basic html link.  If clicking it didn't work, type it out into your browser manually.  Either way, the link is good.  You're doing it wrong.
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+take+a+screenshot+and+post+it
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: vd are you paying attention i am totally telling you how to tell which is the positive and negative terminal
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=you%27re+doing+it+wrong
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: put both wires into a solution of cupric sulfate and see which side gets copperized
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but of course, as you said it's so simple, and there are only 2 choices...seems like it'd take a whole lot less time to try it & see if it works, than it would to log on here and ask
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: abelinc if i try it wrong wont it hurt the battery?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: it wont short it out or anything?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or anything
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: is your battery low on charge?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: vorpes i dont know. 
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: if your battery is low on charge it could explode
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Previously reputable source explicitly states high res screens make the new iPad consume more bandwidth. Hooray for moronic tech journalism. 
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: if you arc the terminals
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the wallstreet journal hasn't been reputable for several years now
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: vorpes, the terminals dont seem to be arcing
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd consume more bandwidth because of higher-res camera tho, for sending pix
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Reputable is relative. Relative to Fox News and Daily Mail, ALL are reputable :-P
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hmm i dunno then
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: they're all owned by the same company
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/13/wall-st-journal-murdoch-bancroft
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you could just try pedaling it
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: fiendish wasnt anne bancroft the wife in the film citizen kane?
T3/r7/2012-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well, they have a choice between 2, so 50/50 for 1 company to own both of any named 2 I suppose
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: any suggestions for a cheap video card?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i like the intel 830
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: price?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i dont remember, it was on tigerdirect
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: wtf... did a windows update, it tried to install the bing toolbar
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: yeah, ms loves bing
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: This surprises you... ?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: had to kill the process to stop it...
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: thanks for the play by play
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: What's holding you on Windwoes anyway?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Studying .net programming :-P
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: anyone know how much a mobile sim card costs in Oz ? something to change mob numbers ? 
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: $2
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: change mob numbers?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Oz?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: -tralia.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Anybody good at proving things?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: oh mememememe
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Great. I need to prove the commutativity of addition, in Coq. I already got the two lemmas you need, but I have a trouble figuring out what next.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What's Coq?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it's a theorem prover
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: what is this Coq of which you speak?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: it's a theorem prover
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: lmgtfm
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra winks at Sit like a Trurien.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it's easy to prove. 
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: It's supposed to be...
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: first line, second para of wikipedia entry says that is commutiative
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: so it must be true
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I've got a lemma that m + 0 = m and another one that S (n + m) = n + (S m) which should be the prerequisites.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Need a primer in syntax...
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: S is just the successor function.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: am afraid I was being facetious -- looking up wikipedia is the limit of my knowledge
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ah, OK.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: OWAIT
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: That second lemma looks like (n + m) + 1 = n + (m + 1) ...
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Isn't that already commutativity?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: A simpler version.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra dances wildly before you!
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: OK, I got it. I didn't get the right way of putting the lemmas together at first.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: So you need to prove n + (m + p) = (n + m) + p.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: actually not
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Where p is any successor of m.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Using the 2 lemmas I wrote here, it all falls out nicely. m+0 = m is good for the base case, the other one for the successor case.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: And successor can't be "any". Successor of n is n+1.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Any successive successor of n...
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I was hoping to avoid that :P
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: So you have S(n+m) = n + S(m).
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yes. And I needed to show that S n + m = m + S n
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Use the lemma you just wrote on the right-hand side (changing variable names) to get
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: S n + m = S (m + n)
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Can you solve P vs. NP?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Now simplify the left-hand side according to the definition of addition and you'll get
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: S (n+m) = S (m+n)
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: But that just means ... yeah, that.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Which is what you're trying to prove in the first place. Hang on...
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Now apply the induction hypothesis which says that n+m = m+n (remember, we're proving that S n + m = m + S n now) and you've got reflexivity.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Reflexivity ... or commutativity?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Reflexivity in the sense that you've got equal things across the =.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Did I make any sense? Perhaps I should explain some part better?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien has quit.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Well, I slipped over many details that are needed for proper grokking of the proof.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I would say...
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: S(n+m) = n + S(m)
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yes, that's my lemma. Did I make a mistake previously?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Then S(n+m+0) = n + S(m+0) = I am going in loops again.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Is it trivial to prove n+m+0 = n+0+m? :P
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Mmmm.. Let's assume we're working on the induction case and want to prove that S n + m = m + S n.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: No, it's as hard and stupider.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien nods.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Thought so.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: So, according to the definition of addition, (S n) + m = S (n + m)
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: This means our statement to prove takes the form S (n+m) = m + S n.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Probably shouldn't wander in Ygg while doing this.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: And, using the lemma we've been discussing, turn the right-hand side into something else (remember to change the variable names)
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: S (n+m) = m + S n = S (m+n)
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: (running the lemma backwards, on the right-hand side of the equation-to-prove)
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Changing the variable names sounds like cheating to me...
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Considering S(n+m) would be the same as S(m+n) if you just renamed the two.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: The order matters, the names don't.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: The lemma says that S (n+m) = n + S m.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Right.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: The lemma says that S (m+n) = m + S n.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Not much difference, right?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yeah.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: The same lemma all again. So you can do this.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: So you replace m + S n with S (m+n)
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: and end up with S (n+m) = S (m+n)
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: But the induction hypothesis assumes that m+n = n+m
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Where is the induction again...
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loansum Donni Tech: S (n+m) = Sn + Sm / S
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Induction means that we prove it for case n=0 and n=S n' separately. When proving n=S n', we assume that the claim holds for the previous case.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yes, but.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Donni, S is a successor function, not multiplicatyon.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Learnt a new word today :-) Lemma
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Used them a whole bunch, but never called them anything bar steps 1->sideways 8
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Steps 1 to infinity, heh.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Trurien, did it start making sense?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Not quite yet. I know what induction is, but I never did it calling the steps 'induction hypothesis', etc. It was kind of mechanical, the way we learned it.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Well, here the induction is performed over n
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: So that means I don't follow where m+n=n+m is assumed.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: In the induction step case.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Which would be the one that recurses?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Assume m+n=n+m, prove that m+S n = S n+m.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Thanks for being the rubber duck for me :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Do I get a tub?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Do you want any further explanations?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: No, but you can get a rub.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra gives Sit like a Trurien a nice long rubdown.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien sighs.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Well, since we arrived (by various substitutions) that S (n+m) = S (m+n), now we arrive at trivial equality by using the induction hypothesis:
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Since n+m=m+n, S (n+m) = S (m+n)
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: That is trivial, yes.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Substitute the equality and you get S (m+n) = S (m+n)
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: It's the substitutions that I don't get.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Do you agree that we can assume n+m=m+n?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: That's the key to the whole problem for me.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: i.e. what I would be trying to prove.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Well, we break down the whole statement into two cases
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: We want to prove, ultimately, that n+m=m+n
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Consider two cases: when n equals 0 and when it doesn't.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Because once n+m=m+n, then S(n+m) = n + Sm = S(m+n) = m + Sn
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Here we are trying to prove the second case. if n is not 0, then it must be S n', the successor of some n'.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Sloppily, I name that n' also n. Sorry for that.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Oh wait, I see the induction now, I think.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: So it should really read S n' + m = m + S n'
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: But the assumption still eludes me. How is it assumed that m+n=n+m
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Well, start off with 0. Prove that m+0 = 0+m.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Now, assuming that the statement holds for n=0, prove that for n=1. Etc up to the infinity.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Oh, then you assume the n and try to prove the Sn case.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Assuming that the statement holds for the previous one, prove it for this one.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: That's where the assumption was.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I guess 3pm is a good time for brunch then. :P
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Battlepride Tech: how do i cut and copy on java client?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Battlepride Tech: whats the best client to use aard?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: aardmush
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: That is a matter of personal opinion
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien rapidly nods twice at Starling, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: MUSHclient is VERY popular (and VERY good, in my opinion)
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: any one the supports holy wars.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Agreed, type client to see what the majority is using
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Shrug, I would say Cmud or zmud, but again, personal opinion.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Battlepride Tech: tanx..
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Is client based on GMCP replies from the client?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I don't believe so
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The clients command predates gmcp
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: If you want a prepackaged solution, aardMUSH is your best bet.  If you want to write your own bo^H^Htriggers, etc., choose one with a language you can get comfortable with.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yeah, true.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: But it could have just not been exposed to us.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Probably is based on telnet query
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hm, haven't the time to source-dive for that. How does a client respond then?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The telnet protocol includes a method for telnet clients to identify themselves.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: That's true, it should also detect clients incapable of GMCP. It was obvious.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ah, thanks, I'll see where that is in tintin++ :D
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: It's hacking time...
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: On some clients, you can tell it what to identify as.  E.g. on cmud, I can tell it to identify as cmud, zmud, xterm, vt100, etc.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Use StarMud :P
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skyren Tech: I'd like to report just a bug...I know it's short notice. For the MUSHClient download for Android phones, Galaxy S3 doesnt allow the use of these buttons. Also,if there's a place for this kind of post, can anyone point me to it please?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skyren Tech: Neither allows use of buttons nor creation of them.
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skyren Tech: Actually scratch that,it allows us but not creation of new buttons
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skyren Tech: allows use*
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: when i try to load wrinkle extender gui in mush i get cannot open C:\aard20110930_a_Search_and_Destroy_v2.5\telnet_options.lua: No such file or directory - It worked before, computer shut down overnight
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you didn't move it inside your mushclient folder
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: no, it was working before tho
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: t where do i need to move it to then
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the path you gave is unlikely to be where telnet_options.lua resides
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: i don't think I even have that folder
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put it into your MUSHclient folder -> worlds -> plugins
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: i got it, had wrong copy of aard enabled
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: have 1 more question, the window for that plug in is stuck up the top and I can't move it, any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: If I have a for loop in lua/Mushclient, and put a local in that for loop - will it create/delete/free memory for that variable every loop?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoImm4U Domain Tech: anyone familiar using a wireless bridge with an ip phone? location of modem changed and don't want the phone in the new location, and the phone isn't recognizing the network anymore
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: If I creat an alias client side will it activate mapper commands?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Using Mush and mapper
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: send to execute
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: as a command?
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: create alias and choose from dropdown box send to execute..that way it will use mapper commands
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrokenBot Covenant Tech: guys anybody use mudmaster to play from phone?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I can't figure out how to use Bast's Aardwolf_Regen. Any pointers? I seem to need eqdb. I added that, but it fails to figure out the ID of my regen ring.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: anyone here into video and burning disks?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: i've been using nero suites, but it doesn't work with the latest windows, anybody know of something equivalent to use?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: gasoline and a zippo
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: don't think that will burn disks tho
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: trust me, it will
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: not very helpfull, funny but not helpfull
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean nero doesn't work on windows 7? or just specific version of nero
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: personally I use roxio, not because its superiority, but because it was with system (Dell)
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: the version that i have, did nero update it's package?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I am quite sure that it works on windows 7 32-bit, but your version may be too old
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: you're right, theres nero 11 on google, mine is onnly nero 6 ultra
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: burning video on discs seems a bit ... outdated
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: old computer but worked good for burning disks
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: good for playing on tv in a dvd player
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: get a networked media player instead :D
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: that would be one way to do it
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: anyone know what level your hunt % has to be at before the auto hunt feature of winkle winkle's search and destroy plugin works?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 1% ? hunt trick bases on unability to hunt mob
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, I have a bit of a curious one for you Tech channelites
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Read this comment thread: http://bytes.com/topic/c-sharp/answers/518251-throwing-exception-constructor
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Then read this article: http://www.dev102.com/2008/12/03/throwing-exceptions-from-constructors/
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It might just be me, but it SEEMS as though this site is building its tutorials by scraping comment threads and stitching them together :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: heh.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if comments are good, then it is quite reasonable way to have all info in one article
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Quite reasonable? They are profiting from copywritten statements via online advertisement, what they are doing is illegal
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not to mention the plagiarism aspect (which is separate to the legal side)
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Is it copywritten or copyrighted, by the way?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GraySong Gregor looks around the room and cries out, "Oh boy!"
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I believe the correct term is copyrighted, but I say copywritten because I like the way it sounds better :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien nods.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I tried the first URL and it seems the page has been removed, or I saw a 404.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 'Some of us may have heard ', 'Some of you may grasp ' - that is just referrence that some people have other opinions
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I just reloaded ti, link is good as far as I can tel
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you use wrong words because you prefer the way they sound?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: tell*
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: redryn --- cellar door
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Only copywritten. I feel like a moron saying copyrighted, so I don't.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Redryn, that's how languages evolve :P
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I don't see there are exactly the same phrases, but as topics are similar then both pages have to be similar
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Same phrases? It's a straight cut n paste job with some segue in between
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I put it in other words: could person from 2nd page formulate ideas in the same way that was in 1st page ?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Trachx, are you the guy scraping the comments? Because a blind turtle can see the Dev102 page is a hack job
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: this article is not 'inventive' it is rather summary of well-known facts
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: indeed it is a summary. However it summarizes it using the EXACT SAME WORDS as the comment thread, even to the tune of using the first person for the 2 sides of the argument
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Where a forum handle has been used, it is replaced by 'some people' - verbatim
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ok, I have to admin that 'Is it OK to throw exceptions from constructors?' and 'Is it appropriate to throw exception from a constructor?' are almost identical
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yet, how can you start article about "Is it appropriate to throw exception from a constructor?" ?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: this is kind of Q/A tutorial
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yulian Tech: It is appropriate.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Comment: Contructor supposed to handle simple tasks like initialization. If up to the
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Comment: Contructor supposed to handle simple tasks like initialization. If up to the stage you need to throw exception from contructor I think I would suggest you to review the code.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Article: ...constructors are supposed to handle simple tasks like initialization and if someone is up to the stage where he needs to throw exceptions from constructor, reviewing his code would be a better idea.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but that is true, constructo is supposed to do simple tasks
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can try to formulate it in other way, but meaning is still the same
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yulian Tech: Some cases an object would be created from user input ... throwing an exception would be the propper solution to trying to initiate an object with invalid data ...
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still, those are 'well-known' facts
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: nothing inventive
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yulian Tech: Still, makes it ok for constructors to throw exceptions on failed initiation of the object.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'm not arguing about the content - it is all correct. However, Dev102 did NOT write it, it was scraped from the comment thread
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yulian Tech: ... ouh ... where can I read the article ?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ~*if* it was copy-paste then it is bad
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: He went down the list of comments, changed enough of the words that it *almost* flows as an article instead of a comment thread, then posted it to get ad $
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: http://www.dev102.com/2008/12/03/throwing-exceptions-from-constructors/
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: So there are no technical issues, but ethical and moral.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And legal
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Right.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still, if there was some *innovative* idea behind it, that would be legal
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As the Bytes page is tagged with "BYTES.COM ) 2012 "
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No need for innovation, if I C&P a summary of something EVERYONE knows, that doesn't make it ok
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Well... I don't know that.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but those pages are just very similar (maybe copy-paste, maybe write in one window while reading in other)
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yes, and that similarity is copyright infringement
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yulian Tech: the innovative idea is to report a failed creation from the constructor.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yet, consider this: you go for a C# course, then you write articles about it - is it legal ?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm not sure comments are copyrighted
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Everything that's written is copyrighted.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: comments are copyrighted for sure
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: at least in the US and Au they are, Redryn
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: uh i'm not sure about that trur
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Probably not to Bytes.com, but to the writers, no?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so if i copy and paste your last sentence now to a friend on im
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: If you mean copyrighted as in "legally defensible" then I don't know about that.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is that copyright infringement?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: More likely Bytes.com depending on the T&C of using the site
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Then again, is there another definition of copyrighted... hmm
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Redryn: yes, would that not be?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i believe you have to do some sort of creative work or stuff to make automatic copyrighting apply
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: But it wouldn't be detectable by any means...
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Depends Redryn, Copyright is very iffy any time money *isn't* involved - this isn't the case though, as the Dev102 site is profitting from their ad dollars
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It isn't auto copyright here though, the "BYTES.COM ) 2012" page footer takes care of that
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: There is that, but there is already something new in the rewriting of ideas, I believe...
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: uhhh
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that copyrights the website, not the comment i'm pretty sure
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It copyrights the page code and content, entire
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if i went to a forum with (c) at the bottom, and talked about some new invention i came up with
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that idea doesn't go to the owners of the website
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: OK, forget that. But Vakieh pointed out the T&C, you should look there.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: No, it doesn't.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: But the text of the idea belongs to the website?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yulian Tech: All internet postings on boards are under the same copyrights as if they were published public newspaper articles.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Maybe you can write an article about 'common misunderstanding of copyright law' Redryn :P
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yulian Tech: in regard to the original poster.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The invention stays with you (and is covered under patents anyways, not copyrights) the COMMENT is owned by the site
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Then I'll copy the comments from your post and use them as my own article.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: A guy wrote a movie idea on Reddit, Warner picked it up, Reddit owners threatened to sue for infringement before their users kicked up a stink
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: For me the issue is settled if due credit is given...
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That only settles it in the eyes of the law if no money is given or taken
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baltum Tech: not sure if this is relevant to the conversation because I've only been glancing at it, but in the US, copyright is automatic
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: i.e. if you earn ad dollars, or you take away from someone else's ad dollars (by leeching page views) you are infringing
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: mgrin seanjac
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Whoops :D
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Baltum: it is relevant, but copyright to whom?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baltum Tech: to the creator of the work
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baltum Tech: unless of course alternate deals have been made, but that would be the default state
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The terms and conditions of most forum websites transfer ownership of comments to the site - this prevents commenters from suing for displaying comments
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yup, so in the Warner/Reddit example, Reddit were entitled to complain about Warner not giving them credit for where the idea was found, but not to sue for infringement of their own copyright? I'm confused.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It isn't about credit, it is about pure ownership
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If I slap credits onto a copy of Avengers, that doesn't make it OK for me to hand out copies of it
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baltum Tech: ideas themselves can be hard to copyright, I think...not entirely sure (I don't claim to be an expert)
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Whole teams of lawyers can argue about it Baltum, yes :-) But when it is verbatim copy and paste there's no argument
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Well the law student I know seemed pretty offended by our misconceptions and hasn't bothered to respond any more :P
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Except here it isn't *quite* verbatim..
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Godot's a lawyer, right? I'
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: In-training.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I've done copyrights and employer-employee ip law myself
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But AU, which has some subtle differences from US
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Which you wouldn't know unless you've read the US laws.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I like AU, there's a rabid dog trying to screw up the PM all the time ^^
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well yeah, if you work anywhere in IT you have to know the US laws
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: True.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They infest EVERYTHING with their must defend bs
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baltum Tech: how detailed of an idea was the Reddit movie idea? sorry if I'm asking questions that's already been answered, lol, but the movie/Reddit/Time Warner thing caught my eye (I'd love to make movies myself)
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It started out quite small (marine expedition unit gets teleported to Ancient Rome and tries to see how much they can conquer)
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But it was a full script before Warner picked it up - and a couple months in before Reddit Corp tried to pull money out of Warner for it
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: He was the guy - he wrote the script, and he sold it to Warner
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baltum Tech: oh, okay...so the guy did his own thing and sold it to WB, but Reddit wanted a piece of the pie?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: yup
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baltum Tech: oh, gotcha...hmm, yeah, that's an interesting case
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Did Reddit succeed?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Technically Reddit had legal grounds to sue, seeing as their TnC place ownership entirely into Reddit hands
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Apparently not.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But when their userbase kicked up a stink they backed off
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'm guessing it was because Warner simply said "If they sue there's no movie" Which basically meanse a lose lose situation for Reddit
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: means*
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baltum Tech: so, again, without being an kind of expert on the matter, I don't think Reddit would have had a strong case
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baltum Tech: I mean, I could post any kind of copyrighted work to Reddit, but it doesn't mean Reddit gets to own it
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No, their case was air tight - they owned the comments, Warner was going to use those comments for profit
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you post comments you don't own to Reddit, they don't, no. But any original content they do
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Copyright gets assigned once per IP, then is transferrable. No transfer means no new copyright.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baltum Tech: but was the entire screenplay originally posted to Reddit, or just the original idea?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baltum Tech: plus, I think there have been cases in the past (though maybe not releated to this kind of situation) where just because someone puts something in their terms of service, doesn't necessarily mean it will hold up in court
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Their are ways to void a TnC, yes - there was no suggestion of that in this case, however
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baltum Tech: hmm...well, interesting nevertheless, though I'm glad they decided to back off
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Indeed, the movie idea sounds very interesting
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baltum Tech: any idea if the movie got made, or what the title was?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It would still be in preproduction atm, was quite recent
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reddit's T&C doesn't grant them ownership in the least (nor does it claim to)
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it grants them "royalty-free, perpetual, non-exclusive, unrestricted, worldwide license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, translate, enhance, transmit, distribute, publicly perform, display, or sublicense any such communication in any medium (now in existence or hereinafter developed) and for any purpose, including commercial purposes, and to authorize others to do so"...they didn't have a leg to stand on
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baltum Tech: I was mostly curious because I try to at least get a general sense of what movies are being made and relevant movies news, in part because I like to play on the Hollywood Stock Exchange website 
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which means they could've made a movie without the OP's consent, but they couldn't stop him from making one without theirs
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baltum Tech: apparently, it's called "Rome, Sweet Rome"
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Abelinc, pc was on the fritz earlier - the 'non-exclusive' part was added as a direct result of this event.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even without non-exclusive, they're not granted ownership, merely use...and exclusivity would need to be specified...if what changed was the addition of the word "non-exclusive", then the legal meaning didn't change
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The 'non-' was what was added
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The whole legal argument was that Warner was breaching Reddit's exclusivity
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it said non-exclusive on that page back in 2007
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so unless this is something that happened even longer-ago than that, they had absolutely nothing to even pretend to go on
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baltum Tech: the oldest article I can find dates to October 2011 (not sure when the incident originally came up), but that article that reports of the issue quotes the terms and has the word "non-exclusive" to it
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baltum Tech: "Jerry Birenz, who is listed as the copyright agent for Reddit, says that this raises an "interesting issue" and that by a strict reading of the user agreement, multiple parties might be able to make a claim to a license if they chose to develop Erwin's story."
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baltum Tech: source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/does-warner-bros-have-movie-250726
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reddit could definitely claim that they had license to use the idea, and could have developed their own movie without the poster being able to sue them, no doubt there...but the poster still retained his ownership of it and they couldn't touch his use of it
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: here's their agreement from 1/10/2007: http://web.archive.org/web/20070114200745/http://reddit.com/help/useragreement
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, took a fair amount of digging, "warner + legal" does not a short matchlist make :-P But it looks like the contract change was on the *warner* contract, not the Reddit contract, my bad
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Warner wanted exclusivity, which had already been signed away to Reddit
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nodnod, warner doesn't have exclusive rights, but reddit can't get a piece of warner's pie
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, it was precluded by reddit, not signed away to them
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Reddit is currently able at any time to produce a competing film with no legal recourse by Warner
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: warner would still have exclusive rights over their "adaptation", in the way disney's done so much with public fairy tales
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: course it's hardly an original concept, just another take on it...there was the movie with the aircraft carrier transported back to WW1 (or II, I forget), or twain's yankee in king arthur's court, ST:IV, etc
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baltum Tech: yeah, one of the articles I read mentioned that it's not a unique concept in the sci-fi world...of course, that doesn't (necessarily) make it bad 
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: iirc the Aircraft Carrier one was a full Carrier battlegroup from ~2050... was an odd read from the $2
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: *$2 stand
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baltum Tech: there's an interesting series of four online videos called "Everything is a Remix" which is a pretty good watch
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was the nimitz moved to just before pearl harbor...the final countdown (kirk douglas, martin sheen)
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tech changes in the 20th century are pretty amazing tho...nimitz was just 35 years after pearl harbor
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: still no flying cars though
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is there a way to disable the mouse led when laptop's in sleep mode
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: led on the top of the mouse
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: decoration
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: win 7
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Turn the mouse off?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: besides the obvious :P
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I unplug charging cable it also turns the mouse off
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is the answer
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: this new show that I watch launched a new season
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh mis :p
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: He just used reinforce on it a couple of times.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: mis.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Is there any documentation on what #config {color patch} {on} does?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Well, it seems to do something I don't quite like with the channels.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Need a new mouse, this one is skipping :-( Does a wireless mouse exist with *0* delay between movements when idle? i.e. one which either doesn't switch off, or comes back fast enough for me not to notice it?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No, I can guarantee that it doesn't exist. Light of speed and all that, you know.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Or maybe you are too slow to not notice that? :D
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Don't forget to not use double negation.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: hey anyone know how to make a windows widget work on kde or osx dashboard?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: for some reason my computers not shoeing the files on a disk.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: showing
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone using google drive ?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: is there a command on the mapper to set a tier so that my runto knows to use my portals sooner?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It's all done automatically.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: oh alright :)
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: ah so it is. could have tested that first i guess :P
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: runprefix doesn't seem to accept the 'mapper goto' command or am I doing something wrong?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apply Rhuli Tech: mapper goto is not an Aard command, it's a script command
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: ah, okay, so it's specific to mush. fair enough, thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I can't figure out how to use Bast's Aardwolf_Regen. Any pointers? I seem to need eqdb. I added that, but it fails to figure out the ID of my regen ring.
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rebbit Tech: which mush file has the aliases and triggers?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: .mca is alias and .mct is trigger
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rebbit Tech: thanks Turie :)
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Rebbit: .mcm are the macro files
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rebbit Tech: i cant find the .mca and .mct files.. where should they be?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Rebbit: Did you go to the alias window and click save?
T3/r7/2012-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rebbit Tech: ahh. that could well be my problem.. thanks :)
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: anyone know of a plugin for the mushclient that will make your qmob's name appear in a bar someplace?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: bast has one that makes it appear in a miniwindow
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: rather nice too
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: How to resize a window in MUSHclient if the corner is off the screen?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Uhm. but I don't want to effect the other windows
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: or drag the window to a place where you can reach the corner
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: and I have a feeling it will just reset it so it is still off the screen
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I cannot drag the window horizontally
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it's the long convo capture window you see
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I thought there is normally a right-click/resize option
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: there is not
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I can move the window up or down but it won't move horizontally, and I can't click that little resize triangle in the corner because it's off the screen
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Not going to resetaard. I tried that /before/ I configured the rest of my windows how I wanted them.
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: It doesn't work, it'll just mess up the other windows.
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ok
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: remove mush and completely reinstall
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: MUSH doesn't need installing, it runs directly from the .exe file
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ok then keep it as it is
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: unzipping an archive counts as an install
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I don't see why I should have to do that anyway. Shouldn't there be a very simple way of resizing a window aside from clicking on the triangle in the bottom right?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And yet, there isn't.
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: if there we we'd already told you
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: you are certain that it's the only way to resize a window on MUSH?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can delete the plugin's state file if you want...
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: If you'd /knew/ another way, I'm sure you'd have told me. Perhaps there is a way you don't know about.
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: perhaps
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Did you not read the option I just gave you?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I read all replies
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: surely you can I understand why I find it difficult to believe there is not a way of performing a simple resize function without screwing up the layout of every other window which I've placed so nicely?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I'm not saying it's definitely not the case, just saying I'm incredulous.
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: There was a time when even resetaard didn't exist, and state file deletion was the only way
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Did you try deleting the state file?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: if resetaard doesn't work, why would deleting the state file?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why does my mouth feel funny in the rain?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Answer: idk, just try it
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: and it will screw up all my other windows?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well, if you delete their state files, sure
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But you wouldn't do that, right?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I can delete state file of individual chat capture window?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No, individual plugin
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I see
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: any idea how I know which state file is which?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: id string in each plugin xml file
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: wow this is confusing
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: id in the .xml file doesn't appear to correspond to any of the state files
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: all the state files begin with "e" while the id begins with "b"
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: well, the state files should be <your world file id> - <id of plugin>
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: so look for the id after the dash (-) to find the plugin
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yeah I was looking the plugin .xml files
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I guess the states are xml files too
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: seems weird that I have to open every .xml file manually to find out which is which?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: and I'm on a very old computer, this could take ages
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It is not something you are supposed to need to do
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: I just told you how to find the right state file :p
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: thank you gonf
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: open your world file (under mushclient\worlds), there should be a line that shows id=<something>
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: thank you vakieh
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: gonna restart mush and see if it changes anything
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: state file is deleted though
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: oh okay
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yeah, it's just in the same place, which appears to be the default position anyway
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: which is why I was sceptical about resetaard etc, this is just where the cat capture window loads anyway
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it's almost as if MUSHclient expects my monitor to be bigger than it actually is
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Perhaps your resolution is too low?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Yes, I think it could be something to do with that
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: with max screen resolution I can see way more of the chat capture window, but it's still too far off the edge of the screen to see the resize triangle
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what's going on?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: whats the best way to put "random" data on a partition after "wiping it with shred" and installing a "new os" ?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: pass a strong magnet over the harddisk
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: redryn how can i make a strong magnet?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Used to be Loved enthusiastically high-fives Redryn!
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Format the harddrive.
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: how do magnets work?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: oh yes he believes you
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: gruagach they work based on magnetic structures of metals and semi metals, though some metals dont allow their domains to change easily
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: find a piece of conductive metal and coil a wire around it as much as possible, then run a strong current through the wire
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Always remember..when you set a thermite charge on top of your hard drive, make sure you have a battery trigger
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: redryn ok, how many amperes or how many oersteds you meaning?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the more the better
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wakita Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: asoth i dont know how to make magnesium ribbons, sorry
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: redryn that can get quite hot if it's a strong current
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but it'll be a strong magnet
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Connect the magnet to a car battery. It will work.
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: i would recommend you know what you're doing before playing with electromagnets powered by anything other than a 9v battery
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: zzzz 
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: video tape everything
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: as long as you don't have a pacemaker it's fine
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Will work? Work for what, making my computer run faster? *duck*
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Redryn: You might need a pacemaker after doing it though.
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: sca
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: why didn't nature go the transistor path when developing the brains?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Organic is more efficient
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onbusy Tech: cost
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: nature has no accountants
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It does too. It is called nature selection.
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: no. 
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: thats a mixup
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Darwinism. Besides, Organic circutry is more effective
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I've know about table.concat for a while, but never realized it was useful for dealing with that annoying "," that a simple for loop will add if you go through an array and add the item and a seperator.
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: The one on the final item that is.
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yup
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: How would I make a trigger work with multiple lines? I tried adding \n where a new line would begin but that didnt work.
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone had a problem in Cmud with deleting the information in a string list and it coming right back?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Atom Tech: anyone good with the cisco ios?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: don't you mean Apple ios?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: how do you set mushclient to only show 1 page at a time?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: i'm getting the view all of the output at once as a default
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: you mean pagesize?
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: how many lines should pagesize be set to
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: 0
T3/r7/2012-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: got it, thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: can anyone recommend a re-spell script/trigger/plugin that doesnt use that annoyign slist affected thing over n over?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all the current ones won't put that into notes
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you'll never see it with the current ones
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: ok... what's an example name of a current one?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for MUSHclient, bast and winklewinkle both have plugins...for tinyfugue I have one...
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for zmud, danj has one
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: ok, ill try yours first... do i need the full spellup and pots tgz for it?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: abelinc and you know how it has those error messages when you load it on its own about channels and such?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: are those fixed with the latest update?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno what error messages you're talking about...you sent me a tell with two errors, but they had nothing to do with channels and such, and weren't from the spellup script
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: gimme a moment and if it's reproduced i'll send it ^_^
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: first one  comaplins about a lack of teleopt.tf
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: and the second one complains about a lack of an abewantedspells.tf
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: and a new third error says that the abe-spellup-pulse has an invalid string warning
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the first is a prerequisite...telopt.tf is what allows GMCP to work on tinyfugue, you'll need that
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: gmcp? ok.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: so i edit the abespellup.tf to point to telopt.tf with a /load , or with a /require?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the second is nothing, in that the file will be created 
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you don't edit it at all
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's already a require
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you just have the telopt.tf file
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: ok. how do i tell it the path to find it at
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: i have it
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't tell it the path, leave shit where it belongs
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: 'where does it belong'
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: i downloaded it to the spellups/ folder where the old script had been
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in your tf-dir folder, where everything belongs
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: ok
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: old spellup has nothing to do with new spellup, and old spellup went directly into your tf-dir folder as well
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: and i can ditch spellup.tf variables.tf and edit_variables.tf ?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both spellups run fine loaded together
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can certainly stop calling spellup/spellup.tf if you want. don't touch the variables stuff
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: so i'll need the variables from the old spellup tgz, the telopt, the abespellup.tf
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: and my tfrc to call them, right?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: do i need to keep all the race stuff too then?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: keep everything, only change what you call
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: ok, so if i was doing a fresh install, download the tgz, the telopt, the new abespellup, and edit my tfrc to /require the abespellupt.tf, ?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: k, trying it, brb
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: i'm getting error messages for ' tickset'  'tick_adjust2' 'getbetter'
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: and my prompt is followed by a big long ole stats line ... is that the way it works?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type statmon
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: ok
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: that cleared it, thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you previously were using something statmon-based, which turned on the statmon on aard
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: i see.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: what about the check_comm_tick: tickset: no such command or macro
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: and the check_comm_tick: tick_adjust2: no such command or macro
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: and the getbetter:no such command or macro
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Seems like some stuff is missing.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Did you choose not to load some scripts?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll help to read through the telopt.tf file...there's things like ";adjusts drift of autotick from tick.tf, comment if you don't run"
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: so its like a clock thing?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it gives you a notice of tick coming, 10 seconds before the tick
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and another notice on the tick
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: ah cool
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: that would be awesome to have.... the Option 102: 101,1 thing is from telopt?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: what about the get better thing, and turning on your 3 moons thing, that's what tick_adjust2 is for?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: option102 info is a telnet negotiation option, so yes
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: is that the preferred option for aard? or do i quiet that message somehow?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nearly everything about option102 is also in gmcp, but not quite everything
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: are the ; marks the remark/comment marks?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: wow. this must've taken weeks to write
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: how do i enable whatever the getbetter thing is trying to do?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so yes, you can comment out the rest of the do-option-102-stuff stuff, the /def line and the /echo line
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: andthe mapper thing doesnt work, so leave that commented out?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: sorry, the maze walker thing
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for the getbetter error, that went with "I use for a "stand if at 100%, and autoprac if turned on"...comment to taste"
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: ah i didnt see an autoprac for tf on the site
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, no reason to uncomment the maze walker thing, it won't ever work again
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: ok, so i just manually pick a skill to repeat at tick? or is there a script i uncomment?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no posted script, it's just one macro of /getbetter...
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: ok, so i loaded tick.tf, and that took care of the first tick thingy... and for tick_adjust2 i load a different file?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: abelinc the 102 stuff to comment out, is all of it after the /def -h OPTIONS102 ? or that line also?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the line directly above tick_adjust2 is "runs "just ticked" routine for ghaan's moon script, comment if you don't run"
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: abelinc right, so i loaded tick.tf and i stopped getting that
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: so i think that means im running it, maybe?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: ah. nvm. ghaanmoons.tf is loaded too
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: what does the blacklist thing do, is it like a gag list?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: google "blacklist"...pretty self-explanatory :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: i understand what whitelists and blacklists are :P i was wonder if it implements any special way
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoogleDude Tech: brb, gonna relaod tfrc
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's only located in one spot, in a spot that makes it clear what it does
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: abelinc ok its not giving those weird messages now thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ah. spellbreak. ok thanks.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /spellhelp is your friend :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: you mentioned a script for notes that would turn off the spell script?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the spell script already pauses itself when writing notes
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ok cool thanks man
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: abelinc what type of world do you define aard as?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anytime you're not in "state 3", the spellup script won't send stuff to the MUD...this includes at login screen, at motd, afk mode, note mode, building/edit mode, paged prompt, combat, sleeping, resting/sitting, and running :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard behaves as a diku
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: diku. k
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: if i wanted to manually edit your abespellup.tf, and add a definition for a to /spell4 $person and make it then send spellup $person , is that something pretty simple ? 
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't do it in my file...when you want to make your own macros/aliases, put them into your own files
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ok.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i dont really want to, its just yours says i cant spell up other people with
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's correct, although if you have both the old and the new loaded, the old one spells up others
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ok.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the old one is more flexible in what it does, it just doesn't use spelltags, and doesn't cast automatically with time...you must manually invoke it. I use both together
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: one other question... the getbetter thing. it reads  /repeat -0.1 1 /getbetter
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: is that the wrong place to be adding a skill name/number?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: or do i replace the -0.1 with a skillname? or what am i missing
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: it almost looks like i'd be supposed to define /getbetter someplace else?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's correct
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can /def getbetter = do what you want to do every tick
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ok cool.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: it works now!
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mine is "if I'm not writing note", "if both hp & mana are 100%", "then stand", "if I'm not on break from my autoprac" and "if I'm in either this room or that room", then perform "prac", a few endifs
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: hmmn that would be safer than mine.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: how do make mine use such exclusions?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /help if
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: for a short term solution, if i just turn off ticks, will that stop the getbetter?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look through telopt.tf to see the variablenames for your state, your hp/mana, and room UIDs
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i will read through it thoroughly, yep
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, turning off ticks wouldn't stop it
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: hmmn k
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can always "/def getbetter ="
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ah k.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'll stop the macro doesn't exist, but won't perform anything...then redefine it to your preferred prac when you want it to go again
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: nod
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or check out what I did with /spellbreak in the spellup
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the definition of abe-spellup-pulse shows how to do nested/multiple if criteria
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ok, so it'll be /spellup person   with the old spellup?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no /, just spellup person
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ok
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i was misreading it then.. it looked like /spellup variables then which spellup thing
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: and then a blacklist thing, and then a reminder Really, if they were on there and i tried to cast it anyway
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: it gives me a message with a lot of comm.quest action typessaying that it iddnt match any of them?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: is that normal?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: abelinc, it also keeps telling me at each tick not to forget to quest complete, ( even though i have) ? 
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's just under the "I didn't match any of the GMCP comm.quest action types."?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: GMCP: {"action": "comp", "qp": 21, "tierqp": 0, "pracs" : 0, "trains": 0,
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: then 2 more lines
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: paste the other 2, the error must be in either of them
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i dont have paste going yet... so by hand :
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: next two lines:    "tp": 0, "mcc": 2, "lucky": 0, "double": 0, "daily": 0, "totqp" : 23,    
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: followedby :   "gold": 2566, "completed": 826, "wait": 30 }
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, as long as the missing 
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, as long as the missing "p" in mccp was your type, everything matches
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: typo*
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: yep its just a typo
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i can quest again in a short while and see if it's reproducible?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "/send-gmcp request quest"
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: one other silly question, abelinc, is one of the scripts doing something that makes the small map window disappear?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ok, i typed that.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're running abemap.tf, then yes
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ah i am running abemap.tf
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's meant to capture the map into a separate window...you said you're on console & not x11, so you probably don't want that
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can leave it loaded & just type "tags map off", or don't load it at startup
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ok cool
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're now using x11, then you can use /show-map to open up the captured window
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i see.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i edited the autoreply for duel vampiredude instead of duel abelinc ^^, any idea on the quest thing?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the moment, shut it up with "/set gmcp_comm_quest_status=WAITING"...see if it comes back at next quest. I'm now changing telopt.tf so that the request quest line above will update the status...it had only been updating the quest time
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: /set gmcp_comm_quest_status=WAITING
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: oops
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: that line made it stop calling me a dumbass, thanks abelinc
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: abelinc, the recon file looks like there's a sql database i might not have? is that something i'd install locally or ?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: and does it matter if its postgresql or other sql?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as long as it accepts commands from a file, and likes the commands as I gave them, any sql will work
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ok thanks. i dunno about accepting commands from a file, but ill see if i have enough sql
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both telopt.tf and aberecon.tf just put sql commands into a file...you'd then call that file into your db program
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: hmmn.ok
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i will have to tinker with that when i have more time and a sql primer to read nearby
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: (it did it again) with the old script i still have. 
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: does aard have an ipv6 address?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I uploaded a newer telopt.tf file...the only difference between this one nd the May 2012 one is that I added more for when you do "/send-gmcp request quest"...it'll now update things like your quest status (what gives you the messages at each tick), and it now knows about 2 more outputs of that command
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I can't seem to issue commands using :at in screen... am I missing something?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what are you using :at in?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm using :at in another pane of the same screen session, trying to send a vim command...
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ohh, gnu screen...thought you meant at your computer
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Lol.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tbh, I pretty much just use the attach/detatch and multiuser stuff, don't usually have more than one session going
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if I want to be in multiple worlds, I'll use a second real window
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Multiuser I haven't tried. You mean :at is for between sessions? Gotta re-read that manpage.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Also, the screen code I compiled didn't come with docs.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I must have forgotten to add some flag.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: man screen doesn't exist.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try "info screen"
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Didn't work, though.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/manual/
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Nods, I would like not to have to check stuff online though.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go there...it has it in formats for you offline...
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien nods.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Not saying it wouldn't. Just a bit annoying it didn't come with manpages. :P
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it may be that you don't have your $MANPATH set correctly for man to find them
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use NetBSD's pkgsrc system, so screen is installed in /usr/pkg hierarchy, with /usr/pkg/info/screen.info (and screen.info-1 through 5), and /usr/pkg/man/man1/screen.1...if you installed screen manually (not using a package manager), it prolly went into /usr/local hierarchy which may not be searched.../etc/man.conf should show its default search paths
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Thanks, will look into it later.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Need to pkg lunch.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: tasks here
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: is there any way to stop sending all comands from 1 command?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what do you mean
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: i have a script which lets say send "quaff pot" when i start to fight
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: but it sends quaff pot to many times..i want to do something like if variable > x then stop sending
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: put some logic in the section where it sends quaff pot?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: abelinc, now its doing ' check_comm_quest: do_reward_quest: no such command or macro
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Just bought a 256GB Sata III SSD for US$179
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: nice, i'm guessing it's not for aard =P
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: thatsa one big botting database
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: could probably store the mud several times over hahaha 
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: or a couple million ipod backups of the same britony spears songs
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i'm notthat innocent
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: anyone know if you ordinarily configure a specific option for sd card readers in bsd kernel at boot time?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: which kernal?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: open bsd 5.0
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: that should auto config.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: mrmn... guess ill reboot and see if it works with the card in at boot
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: that didnt do it , no
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: new question though, more important i guess : my hosting company sent me an email asking me if i wanted a free upgrade from xen to kvm, with a fixed plan rate matching my xen for the new kvm.... anyone know if  there's like any special reason to not go to kvms generally?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaigar Tech: anyone familiar with aardwolf's mush client? i seem to have lost my bigmap window
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: anyone good at lua around? :) i have some question 
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: anyone has a working hunt trick script for mushclient to sell?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: There's one in bast's scripts and one in winkles, both work ok for me
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: don't use maps, only want a plugin.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Alucard: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/bast_hunt
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Alucard: It will give you a step by step of the plugin.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: i added the look_window plugin from mr Gammon. the plugin seems to do what it should do except that i can't see the miniwindow. I'm using mushclient anyone an idea how i can get the miniwindow on my screen ?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it may be behind another window
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: i moved them all but no window
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: is it supposed to be there automatically ?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: do you have the tags needed turned on?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: are you sure there is supposed to be a miniwindow?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: yes all tags are on
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: the code says it is writing to a miniwindow
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Looking at the gammon site I think it's supposed to Fiendish
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is it this one? http://69.5.26.215/forum/?id=9596
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, since you don't tell us specifically where you got it, I searched the forums...looks like it's from Blainer, not from Gammon, and try typing "lw on"
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: 9596 yes
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: oke my native language is not english, what is fiendish
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If it is, that plugin is Blainer's and has not been updated. Did you look at the forum and see it needs certain tags on?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: yes lw on activates the triggers
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Fiendish is a player that asked you something Zubul
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: tags ROOMNAMES on, tags ROOMDESCS on, tags ROOMOBJS on, tags ROOMCHARS on, tags EXITS on
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: but i was expecting the room information a a separate window
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is. Look under all your other mini-windows.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that even the main MUD output is a moveable miniwindow
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it could be behind even that
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: hmm no it's not there, i copied and pasted the xml in a file saved it as look_window.xml and added the plugin in mushclient
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: I turned all tags on
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: i typed lw on
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it pops up by default at the top-left of your screen, so it should be behind the main MUD window and/or chats
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: tile the windows? :P
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: any lua programmer can send me a tell pls?i want to ask something :)
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: miniwindows don't have a tile function like full windows
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mosi, just ask here
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: ok..i want to make a plugin which fire a skill/spell based on enemy_percentage
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: all ok..the plugin works..but i want to reduce the number of sends
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: end with terminate or somesuch...easy enough and really has nothing to do with lua programming
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: like...to do something if tonumber(stats.enemy_percentage) < 5 then stop all
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: thinking about switching to a mac. Are there any clients to run aard and if so, they any good? comparable to MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll want to ensure that you're not doing it more often than it can normally cast, which is the more-difficult part
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just run MUSHclient on the Mac
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ehm in the Look_window code there are some require lines
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can install Wine on the Mac
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and use MUSHclient with that
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: oh did not know you could
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: disable trig until skill is used or spell is cast
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger fiendish, go to his site, MUSHclient, wiki
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: whats the function to terminate abelinc?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: awesome, thanks =D
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: here http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/MacLinux
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: i tried with break but dosent work
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: i tried with return to..same :)
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't want to break, you just want criteria
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if the "do this" is within an "if" that isn't met, then it won't do it
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if (GetVariable("autocast") == "1") then
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: while you'd want a variable like that to turn it on/off, I was referring to the if tonumber stats.enemy_perc < 5 statement
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i was replying to the too many sends thing
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mosi, check out my autorecall plugin for how to do it...mine is old enough to still be statmon-based, but how to do the if checks and delay it so it's only doing it once per round is in there...just change the variable used to gmcp's enemy perc
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: thx abelinc :) that i was looking for..to delay it..i was trying to store os.time() in a variable but i still try :)
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I do that...if (os.time () - autorecall_lastfired) > 3 then
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: yea...bit i get that nill stuff all the time..
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: within your onpluginenable, have autorecall_lastfired = os.time ()
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then it's not nil
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it'll be greater than 3 already the first time it would come up
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: oo where can i take a look at your recall script?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where do you usually get people's stuff? finger me, baby!
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: thanks abe, love the site. and lolwhut i just realise you have a twitter account for aard notices
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: heh mudding from ipad works!
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: mebbe i should get an ipad
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, I MUD from ipad often :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc you know any decent remac like sites for refurbished apples?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: i'm using the mud client app.. seems ok
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try smalldog, other world computing (macsales.com), lowendmac.com
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for portable devices (phone/tablet), I don't recommend using MUD client apps on them...my advice is to use a telnet/ssh app to connect to a computer running a real client
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmmn.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: makes sense
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cyne seems to think you have the right idea.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course, that's *TONS* easier for me, since my choice of "real client" is CLI, so I have all the functionality without any modifications
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: i am using iTeleport for ipad... works like a charm
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for GUI client users, you can use duckbat's proxy to connect both your main client and your portable client
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: hmm could probably get mushclient on ipad via teamviewer
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: remote desktop type apps have the drawback that they're trying to shove your big screen onto the portable device
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using a telnet/ssh app is much more readable
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: how secure is ssh from a tablet?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as secure as it is from every other device?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's ssh
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: k.
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tablets don't modify the protocol
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: oh wait. haha i thought you were talking about vnc
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my preferred client is iSSH...it does telnet, ssh, VNC, RDP, X11 (and tunnels the last 3 under ssh)
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not free, but hard to beat the featureset
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: telnet only works if you are using a command line client?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: personally i use vnc with ssh tunneling to access my aardmush at home
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use telnet/ssh on GUI clients using duckbat's proxy
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you tell MUSH to connect to the proxy (127.0.0.1), you tell portable to connect to home computer (public IP, NATted to it)...you set up the proxy to echo commands sent from remote to MUSHclient, you'd need to set up something on MUSHclient so that anything with the proxy's prefix is sent to execute
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you don't get the benefit of seeing the miniwindows, but you do get the benefits of all your plugin commands like mapper goto, etc
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IMO, the less clutter fits better on portable than teamviewer/vnc/iteleport/etc, of course YMMV and I'm not the one playing your character :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (and as mentioned, I don't have that drawback by sheer virtue that I don't have the miniwindows to begin with ;-)
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: isnt telnet text-based? how would using the proxy provide any GUI
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both the remote screen and the proxy/ssh methods allow you to only set up scripts on one client type, rather than trying to duplicate everything in different interfaces/languages
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not providing any GUI
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's providing access to the functions of the GUI client
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd look like you're just telnetting to the MUD...but you'd have MUSHclient commands and mccp, etc available
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: ah i see. i suppose that sounds more reliable. too bad theres not mac equivalent of duckbat's proxy
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: oke got the look window plugin working. it's a nice plugin to use as a start for my own plugin. too bad the plugin is so huge and always behind other plugins. bringing it to front doesn't help
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, true...could modify mccproxy to do it
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or possibly use screen out of the box to do it, using the multi functions, never looked into using it like that
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: that sounds quite complicated haha. what's this mcc proxy thing
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: for BBSSH how do I use the trackpad to navigate because its not working the way I want it to
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually, on second thought, it's much more complicated than those would allow...gmcp negotiation wouldn't exist in them
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Where is a good auto prac/train script?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: for MUSH
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelincs website has one
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: thx
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Anyone know of a good auto-practicer script for tiers?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Not a script that casts your spells, one that practices your skills for you after remort
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: diy isnt so bad
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yeah, you are a 2nd mort zeroth tier
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: Anyone know where I can find mushclient plugins, other then the mushclient website?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://69.5.26.215/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbtopic_id=108
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: Thanks :)
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: what's the mapper command to mark the current room as the 'entrance' to the zone
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: or maybe it's a mapper extender function
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: extender. xset mark
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schion Tech: anyone able to answer some questions about the muchclient plugins... ?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go ahead & ask the questions
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just ask, don't need to ask if you can ;)
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schion Tech: is there a way to disable the different windows seperatly? eg group
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: in mush?  go to plugins, find the plugin you want, highlight it, and click the "disable" button...
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd right-click it before disabling it though
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's tons of modifications available in right-click menus which may make it more what you're looking for
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: another place to learn lots about the plugins is to finger fiendish, go to his site, click mushclient, click wiki...that wiki will tell you pretty much everything about the included plugins
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schion Tech: well I actually want to learn how to make mush do what these amazing plugins do in the other muds I play :) but need to start at the begining :)
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: i find myself wanting to do things that i would use a for loop for on a commmand line. is there a native for loop thingy in mush or would that require writing a script or alias?
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it requires an alias, i think aardmush might come with one though...
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: alrighty, thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: try #10 echo test
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: did nothing
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm, maybe it doesn't then
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/plugins/ use browser search to search for "repeat"
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: i actually meant that i wanted to keep the index, so i could do something like where 1.mob where 2.mob where 3.mob etc
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: can use a wildcard * and reference it with %
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, he's looking to do something like an auto hunt trick...winkle's plugins include that
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: i'm looking to reproduce something i do in cmd a lot
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: like for /l .... you pass it a list and then do something to each thing in the list
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at what I just suggested
T3/r7/2012-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: i shall look at winkle's plugins. thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: is there any way i can telnet/ssh into my aardmush client remotely on mac?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: VNC
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: anyone got a secret to getting a stripped screw out of a laptop. last damn screw and the motherboard will come out....
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: did you try penetrating oil?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Drilling the ehad off would be drastic
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: no i havnt
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: what can i use?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: its a screw holding the motherboard in...so i was scared to use a lube
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skyren Tech: I guess just plain hacking the screw would not be an ideal solution would it?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: hmmmm...not really
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: hmmmm...not really. what kinda oil can i use?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: vege oil?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: bulle, its called 'penetrating oil'
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yulian Tech: ANyone who knows why Bjarne originally called C++ for C with Classes ? Because he was kinda in a rush :)
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: does anyone know about installing mushclient via winebottler?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: anyone on here?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: unlikely
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: unlikely
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: unlikely * unlikey = likely?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Attack Vector goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: dunno... confused
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: about 10 people intensly watching tech channel, waiting for their moment to shine
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: anyways I have mushclient question
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: great me too
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: you first :)
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nm misread
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: is there some place I can download the autoheal in xml?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: autoheal plugin I mean
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: may as well throw in another q.. what plugins do u all use?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: i just have autohunt
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: no autoheal?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: autoheal could get you botting.
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: I didnt know that
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I use hunttrick and the bast miniwin plugins
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: nah, you just need a comfy alias to do the healing
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: what are the miniwin plugins good for?  u installed all of them?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soris Tech: Whats a good Mud app for the iPhone?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: In cmud, is it possible to locally echo text in colors other than ANSI?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: with mxp, yes
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Usually his documentation is pretty good, but in this case I can't get anything to work
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Was hoping to avoid mxp
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I was hoping I could do something with the %rgb and/or %hexcolor functions, but I can't get it to work.
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm...
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: (Thanks a lot, Zugg, for including xterm support but no way to use it locally, dickhead)
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I seem to recall using html-style color codes for local text echo, I'm jsut trying to remember how I did... I'm on Mush right now and don't have my old scripts
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude comforts Xantcha.
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, that's mxp
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: only color codes i remember are the @R or such 
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: starling, it explains it in the %rgb helpfile... you need to create a style apparently
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's mudside, vampiredude :P
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: It's been a long time since I played... I'm not sure if it was mxp or not... I just know I had a colored alignment bar that had a gradient from red to green depending on current value
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Bleh, I saw that, but seems rather clunky.  I guess I will have to play with it a bit.
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I can't believe he doesn't include a simple color function to directly color text, e.g. %xterm.  All there is is %ansi.
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, i'm searching the forums and i don't even see it being suggested anywhere... i don't think xterm is very widely used...
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It would have been nice if 0 could have just colored the text.  I don't want to make a trigger to color stuff, which is what #style seems to be aimed at.  I want to use the #SAY or #ECHO functions and just color it that way.
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: #COLOR works with hex values... I think I may've used that
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Again, that just creates a trigger
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I'm not sure whether it will work or not, but try #ECHO and then #COLOR on the next line?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I guess
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Zugg's thinking is interesting sometimes, in some cases he seems brilliant.  In others, well....
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, that would probably work actually
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: the helpfile for #SAY gives a similar example: {#SA SANC IS OUT!!!!<semicolon>#COLOR red}
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: if you replace "red" with $FF0000 you can do hex
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: heh, even after a long absence, I'm still marginally useful! :P
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: you're still my favorite poker imm even if you're not anymore ^_^
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: is there an xterm to rgb function anywhere? :P
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hm, well, that colors the whole line, anyway.  No way to put multiple colors on the same line, it would seem.
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, probably not
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: #CW ?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it'll probably be easier to just use mxp :P
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Colors the whole line
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I used colorword for something
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just make a color function that adds it for you
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I guess I could post a suggestion for it on his forum, but it seems he updates his programs about as often as the USA updates its constitution.
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: then use PCOL
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: you have to use string indices but it'll work
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: something like #function color {#return "<color "%2">"%1"</color>"}
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: then use @color("some text", "red")
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: is there a way to send myself a text message from aard?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: like...a trigger
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: echo
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you have access to an sms gateway, sure
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: is that as complicated as it sounds?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: randomly my computer will lose internet connection (only happens on computer) could my wireless card be going bad?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Hadar: Is there several wireless routers in your area?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Or better yet, have you tested you computer on a different wireless connection?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have not, it just randomly drops, stays connected to the router, but no internet connection
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Hadar: Sounds like router or modem.
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: would it not kick off my ipod also, or other computers on the router?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i wonder if it could be the fact that i gave myself a static ip on the router
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dabbil Tech: so when you lose internet you can still ping the router/
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dabbil Tech: dns issues?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: again would that not affect my ipod/other computers
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Unlikely a DNS issue if it's dropping an already-established connection.  DNS issues typically present in establishing connection
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Usually a randomly-dropped connection is either hardware issue, interference, or a DHCP lease expiring and being reassigned
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: my lease does not expire, its static
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dabbil Tech: i agree, xantcha.  not sure why other devices would work and hadar has static ip
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: right, hence the "or"
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but your router doesn't know that
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your static IP must be outside the router's DHCP scope, or else it can be clobbered
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dabbil Tech: i've found isp dns to be flaky, only reason i mentioned that
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heavy torrenting tends to drop connections on cheap routers
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: macaddress ip *static ip*
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lots of connections, the hardware can't keep up and you'll get timeouts
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: where it says static ip is where lease info is on my router
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dabbil Tech: there are plenty of free tools for checking for interference.  i use inSSIDer.
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: dhcp issue is kind of far fetched if you have random drops
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: at its worst it will drop me like 5 times in a day, at best i can stay connected for 24 hours
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm still betting on a cheap router that has trouble under heavy loads. most common issue out there
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: a) what's the router? and b) do you torrent?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It might be something on the same wavelength (wireless phones, hidden wireless cameras, etc.) that's interfering.
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: only started 3 days ago
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: have you checked router to see if it is physically really hot
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Did you just get a new telephone?  Did you just install a hidden camera in your bathroom?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i torrent, but i have not had my torrent program running for about a week now
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: let me go check the router
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: its a little hot, and as for the model its a netgear CGD24G
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it is probably ok then for temp. is there construction going on around you?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: then check out inssider. see if there are any idiots who are between 1, 6 and 11
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i wish i could stab the bastards over wifi
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just run it and it'll show you the access points around you
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: should have been a tell, but oh well
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, only channels that you should use are 1, 6 and 11
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anything in between will start messing with the overlapping channels and you don't want that
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what you want is visit folks who are on any other channel with a shotgun
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: there is a person on 7 but that wireless has been around about a year, and never interfeared before
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: in a nutshell - it's better to be on a single channel with several other ap's than alone on one that has overlap with someone else
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: how do you call a mushclient variable in the command line
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: from what, a trigger?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: no from the variable list 
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Try %0, %1, etc. 
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: generally you don't
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: might work
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you could use the scripting prefix, /// by default in aardmush iirc
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: or Listen to Myrkul, since I didn't even know it had an internal variable list
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ahh ok
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: man, my buddy got a dell netbook, inspiron mini v10 or some crap... its locked with password at startup, bios/cmos password, and i cant get it off...
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but i don't know what ///GetVariable("variable") on its own would do...
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you could Note it, Send it, etc...
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: if u located the cmos battery and remove it for a couple of minutes that should wipe the password
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: is it used, or it came with a password?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: used like no other. hella used.
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's a pita on laptops, prion :P
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: did he try asking the previous owner for the password?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: i took the batter out last night and it didnt work. i googled it, and the password is stored in the cmos chipset... :(
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: actually on laptops its usually rigt under the wifi card, easy access
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: he got it from a thrift store. no gettin password.
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: was hella good deal if i can get it open for him
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Call the manufacturer? 
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: why not just update the bios...
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i useally just format my stolen labtops
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: ez way in
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Sounds like it's parts at this point.
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: how do you format past a bios password?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: ya..how...
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: http://www.technibble.com/how-to-bypass-or-remove-a-bios-password/
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: that doesnt work for new dell laptops. i did itlast night
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: the passwordis stored in like a mini harddrive build into the cmoc chipset as far as i can tell
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: electromagnet? ;-)
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Did you try !BIOS, which is mentioned later in the page?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: And try 'Dell' as a password (case sensitive)
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avalist Tech: trying to write a trigger for when i get disarmed, are there too many possible variables/lines for that to be possible? or is the line "A * DISARMS you and sends your a * flying!" enough?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: It's fairly easy
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avalist Tech: know how to do it, wondering if thats the correct line to use though
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avalist Tech: well, sort of know how
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'd leave out the second a
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: not all weapons start with a
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you want to anchor your triggers with $ and ^ as well
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: they are by default in mush
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avalist Tech: yeah, that 'conver to reg expression' is rather useful. Thanks!
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: So my computer is a whole two weeks old, I'm getting the blue screen of death. I ran Kaspersky and Norton and they have came up empty handed. Just a few seconds ago I got a blue screen of death followed by a message that I need to re-install windows? But when I shut it off and turned it back on it comes right back to normal.
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: ditch windows - go linux - mint baby!
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What kind of error is it giving?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avalist Tech: regular or bootlegged OS?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Computers can BSOD for a lot of reasons
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Just a quick blue screen. Can't read it.
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Bad motherboard?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I don't want to send it back for maintnence I want to play Aard. But I don't wanna damage it.
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: is that windows 7?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Yeah it's windows 7
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Could be anything.  Software issue, bad motherboard, hard drive problem, defective RAM, etc.
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: not sure if this will be helpful - but can you start it up in debug mode - and watch through the various thinges that are being loaded 
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sakata (
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: bleh
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I'm gonna have to contact HP but I don't want to QQ
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You can eliminate RAM easily enough, remove one stick, reboot, see if problem recurs
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: If so, replace RAM and remove the other stick, repeat
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You haven't installed anything unusual on it?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: nothing at all... Just Aardwolf
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You can disable the automatic restart in control panel > system and security > system > advanced system settings
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It might be helpful since it would let you see the error message
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's impossible to determine what is wrong without that
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What are you doing when it dies?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: switching between my browzer and aardwolf most of the time
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: So it bombs when you change windows?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: yep
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What kind of computer is it?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: HP has driver updates for me.. I'm gonna run em real quick. Pavilion g7-1070us notebook
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: otherwise I think I'm gonna try the bsod virus remover tool and see if it finds something
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: hm seems like my mushclient input box is randomly right aligning my cursor,how to fix?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: how do I set an alias so that when I type 'kill mob' it sends 'backstab mob'  what characters do I use instead of 'mob'?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: %1 is not working it used to
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: alias k bs
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knot Fibo Tech: oh simple
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: or on the mushclient side, k * means backstab %1
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lamya Tech: Can anybody reccomend a good autoquaf script?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: have you read help botting?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lamya Tech: Yes I have, and what I seek does not violate that policy.
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you just said autoquaff
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lamya Tech: . . . which is listed in the help file as among the types of scripts that "nobody has a problem" with.
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: It appears to be 'on the other hand' to 'nobody has a problem with'
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: really?
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, autoquaff itself is legal, but it being active when afk in aggro room is illegal
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: You should read that more closely
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the autoquaff itself is fine
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the afk in aggro [in a situation that makes you "beat" the aggro] that isn't
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or any other fight
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, not any other fight
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fights are self-terminating
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: may suddenly do the same when you suddenly have to leave and are in a room full of aggressive mobs, and now you are botting.
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: I see it now, long as you arent afk
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: autoquaff actually used to be explicitly listed in help botting in the example of legit, that was before botting rules were relaxed to allow things like spamprac
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lamya Tech: Makes sense.  The purpose of the botting rules is to prevent people from becomming stronger without actually being at the keyboard playing.  
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have a posted autoquaff plugin, but it was written before GMCP, so it uses statmon rather than GMCP to get your HP
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I would interpret "If I suddenly had to leave the screen in an emergency, would the macros/triggers that I have running leave me gaining something" as being violated by not being around for the finish of any fight
T3/r7/2012-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're interpret it wrong :P aggros are expressly mentioned, and normal fights either are or were mentioned where it expressly said that the reason why is that once a fight ends, it's over and nothing more happens
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: whats a reason for someone getting double tells?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: client echoing it
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Popularity?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: or someone just hitting enter twice
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure tell tags are on
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's how the client knows how to gag them, before echoing them back to the screen
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: alright. thanks abe :)
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mybb Tech: hi. Im trying to install aardwolf on my pc. But somehow cant get it right. Can you please help?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Whazzup?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: not really much to do, unzip, hit the icon, bam. If you wnat to move the directory out of downloads probably wise
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Ummm, what operating system do you use?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: don't put it in program files if you're running vista or 7
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: nod, I myself am using vista but I just leave it downloads
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mybb Tech: im using vista
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Ought to work then...
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mybb Tech: even if i click on the download it doesnt wana do anything
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mybb Tech: ok my security setings was blocking. 
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: i can see that clicking a room on the map allows me to run there in mushclient... can i search for a specific room somehow?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: mapper find "roomname" or mapper area "roomname" its all documented in mapper help
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: perfect ty
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cougr Tech: is there a helper for the aardmush?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: there's a help menu o top
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cougr Tech: for the plugins for aardwolf?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: just ask here what you want to ask. Usually someone can answer
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: you can use ctrl-shift-p and choose plugin you want to check, then use show info....if plugin has help, it's there
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: or do that is that's what you wanted to know
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: for example winklewinkle has made it easy for his plugins, all you have to do is type ww help and ALL of his plugins send help out.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cougr Tech: thanks.....btw is there a pot counter script for aardmush?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: yep
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cougr Tech: ohh nice, where could i find it and some other scripts
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: I use id="59358039c72bc395fb31922e"
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cougr Tech: what is that id
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: google it and you find the potion script
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: easiest way like that :D
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: actually, that can be found in bastmush so....finger bast for good amount of scripts
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: is it possible to download a fully mapped aard for mushclient or must it be done manually?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: someone was distributing their map
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: any idea where to download it?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not really
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just map the world yourself. something might even stick
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: ya unless you already know the mud by the back of your hand...maight wanna map it yourself and learn the mud while you map it.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: dont think it's online anymore
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: were the maps actually made available to public? or just circulated from person to person?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you mean the mush maps or the online maps?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it was on boards. some people where wining over someone sharing their map
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: mapper find 'room' would make campaigns so much easier
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's actually easier if you know the rooms yourself
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: if you explore a lot Prion you can use mapper find
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: as it is it takes me about an hour to do one campaign
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and you can add your cexits to it
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and even easier if you know the areas and have a mapper
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: much maps awesome
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Not all cp's can be done by only using the mapper
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: ? You sure?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Long as you have portals and cexits I have found no other problems
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but then you need to have portals and cexits. he just wants to download someone elses map and do cp's usinf mapper find
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Oh no, doesnt work like that, slow going at first either way. And I'm in agreement, better to have your own mapper db
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Gotta set up your own cexits
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that's what I meant when saying you cant do all cp's with just mapper find
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Nod, gotcha, I use qw and xm once in the area if I don't have the cexit mapped etc
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, an experienced gqer will beat mush mapper bots in higher range gqs
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: anyways gotta get some groceries. Back later.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so map your own areas. then you might actually understand them
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: bingo because Search and destroy does not work with Gq's (on purpose). And mapper you still have to go to the mob etc
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: i'd be willing to pay 1 m gold for some1 to e-mail me their complete mushclient map
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, right, that totally makes people stop botting gqs with it
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: and no one in their right mind would freely distribute their own extensive portalled/mapped/cexit mapper db
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: actually someone uploaded their mapper db some time ago, but well i dont encourage using it anyway
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: someone would 100percent explored...1 mill gold is a joke
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: besides that. It would be totally useless
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: i will pay 1tp for it
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: only the portals would be useless I guess
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsloth's Tsarikos Tech: i wouldn't even take 100tp.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Prion, take it to barter, you've eceeded the use of this channel, it can be done, it is highly not reccomended
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: only 12 people with 100% explored, and to all of them 1 tp is a pittance
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: i don't need the portal stuff, don't even know what a cexit is.. i'm just fedup of alt-tabbing to area maps on clan pages
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: would prefer if everything was in-game
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: then explore
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: No need to with mapper if you've been to the room you can qw <mob> and go straight to your mob or xm <room> and go straight to the room, but you have to have been in the room already. And yeah, explore.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: I alt-tab too, and it isn't pleasant always but I wouldnt goas far as saying it was unfair.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: totally fair and it actually teaches you something
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsloth's Tsarikos Tech: if you don't want to alt-tab, explore on your own until you know the areas well enough offhand.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: the best thing to happen to aard in the last few years was the runto command.  did away with a lot of alt-tabbing, it's only the maps that remain now
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: for some reason the xm and qw commands don't work (mapper is on)
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Then maybe it's an extension of Winkle's
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: trying to install bast's statmonitor, and I keep getting this error even though I've copied the lua folder over
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: C:\Program Files\MUSHclient\lua\phelpobject.lua:53: bad argument #1 to 'open' (string expected, got boolean)
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: anyone help with the plugin issue?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: when I try and install any of bast's plugins I get C:\Program Files\MUSHclient\lua\phelpobject.lua:53: bad argument #1 to 'open' (string expected, got boolean) error. I've copied all of the lua folder over.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The Bast Plugins need to be in a folder in the Plugins folder. All of it.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Installation
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Abel: This should show you what you need to do.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tank Tech: I am trying to install some plugins from http://aardhaven.comli.com/mush.html and I am getting errors like:  stats.mcl has an invalid path, can't load file..any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Run Mush as an administrator, or run it off your Windows partition/drive - solves a lot of Mush file errors
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Whoops, when I say run it off, I mean literally off, run it from someplace else
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tank Tech: I am admin on my desktop and I am running it from the default dir: c:\program files\ blah blah
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What version of Windows? Because in Vista and 7, there is admin, and there is *actual* admin, which are totally different (stupid Microsoft making things complicated)
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tank Tech: xp
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm. XP you should be fine.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Wait, the Administrator user in Vista/7 is not a real admin?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: correct
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It is and it isn't :-P You are an administrator, but any executable file you open is run in a manner which has less priviliges than actual admin.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it's like being a superuser in a Unix-based system--you've got the rights if you need them, but you need to authenticate to run things at full-access level
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: That's fair, I guess.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That is what causes those screen blackouts asking for permission - if a program is run as admin, it doesn't need to ask for permission, it already has them
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Of course, having that block is usually a good thing, but it kills Mush sometimes
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: The question is, why is Mush like that?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Because Mush writes to its native directory (in program files, usually) where it needs permission, instead of the program data folder M$ wants it to
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Which is also the reason putting Mush into a different partition or drive fixes the issue
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: So it's just anachronistic?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It is written for the old NT style, not the Vista/7 style
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yup.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Mush was written originally to be compatible with as many Windows versions as possible
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: That never works with Windows.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Landion Tech: Try installing Mushclient in a folder under documents, not in the programs folder.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: You can try to give that guarantee for *nix...
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Problem was nobody saw Vista coming. It was a cluster**** for a LOT of developers :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: well, it worked fine till they changed it
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Lacrimosa: That's what I meant...
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: and that's M$'s thing, not the developers :p
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: MS doesn't change things and keep them backwards-compatible :P
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: It's not in their best interests to I guess, forces upgrade$.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: of course not--then people would keep using the same software until they made significant improvements to it
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: M$ rule of thumb: skip a release, and never upgrade in the first 12 months.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: pretty much, Vakiah
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Something like that. Or just don't use MS.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nah, customer base is too huge to ignore
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: well, my other game doesn't work too well under Wine :(
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Not too big to prevent getting shafted, though.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hey look, we have many customers! They're locked in, so let's do what we want and they'll have to pay.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In their defence, there is a lot they do well - XP and 7 have both been very very good to me, and their .net framework is much MUCH better than expected
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What MS does wouldn't work in other businesses...
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: sounds like Apple too :p
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: other than operating systems, no
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: There is that.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And everybody know grandma and ditsy blonde will never use Linux, so it't moot :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Heh, not with newbuntu.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: hehe, I got my 70-year old mother on Ubuntu :)
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: More power to you :P
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: If you don't have to duck into the command line, the newer distros are pretty good..
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thuzad Tech: how do i make a button on the phone version?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: The trick is getting the right things set up so you minimise the need to get there.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thuzad Tech: I already have a lot of buttons, but I want an expandable one like actions
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, she doesn't need to do much besides have a web browser and keep flash updated
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Thuzad: not too sure about that, hope other Blowtorch users can help.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: haven't explored it enough to know yet, Thuzad
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thuzad Tech: dangit! my screen is full of button i need a way to compress them
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tank Tech: what other plugin do I have to have instaled to get ATCP_Mapper to work?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard doesn't support ATCP anymore...
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tank Tech: probably why it won't worl :P
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: download the current MUSHclient client, either from aard's site or from Fiendish's
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tank Tech: what is the most recent version?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper in the newer clients is based off the ATCP mapper, just updated for GMCP and for tons more features
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tank Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish's site has the bleeding edge versions, aard's site is a bit behind (aard's site is 1557, fiendish's is 1627 (every single source file change increments it, so it's only 3 minor releases different)
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tank Tech: downloaded most recent build, my prompt has a ton of info in it...how do I disable this? 1259/1259hp 186/890mn 1259/1259mv 0qt 3687tnl] > 
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: type prompt
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tank Tech: has standing., 9999,1259, etc...
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tank Tech: I want just a regular prompt without all the stats on it
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: statmon
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: what ranrr said
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: however why waste info on prompt if you have stock aardmush...? it's just below regular win ..the info you need
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tank Tech: I don't want any statmon loaded..how do I disable it?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just type statmon
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: statmon is not client thing, it's from game.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tank Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: prompt has info that's not readily available in other places, so even with latest aardmush, I'd still leave prompt on
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: how do you change the level lock on a continent room in mapper?  you can't click on it.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: right click on the room in the mapper - can change exit level lock in that
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: try mapper lockexit?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: styliann, cant click on it, its a continent room
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Struggs Tech: what does it mean when
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Struggs Tech: a button says
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Struggs Tech: switch to named button set
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Struggs Tech: When you create a button on the phone version in advanced it says switch to named button set, what does that mean?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Struggs Tech: can anyone answere my question?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: my guess would be that you can set up different button sets, and that option is to let you switch between them
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Struggs Tech: is anyone out there to help me?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: Im using aard mushclient and when I type "mapper" nothing happens. The plugin is enabled within plugins and I cant see anything wrong. The graphical map is displayed though and works fine as far as I can tell, any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: mapper no commands does nothing
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purple Hazeknight Tech: "mapper help", on the other hand
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: thanks, "mapper help" works, thats a step forward :)
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Yep, that will tell you everything you need to know
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: can i add a trigger based on room id? :)
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purple Hazeknight Tech: Why would you do that?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: any idea?how to add a trigger based on roomid?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know if its possible to change what playback device itunes defaults to, without changing the default for everything (in windows 7)
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: how can i show notes when i moved to a room?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: I just wanted to check something about this page with setting up portals on my mapper for mush http://www.holgerschurig.de/games/aardmapper.html  
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: at the bottom it has mapper portal get %1 663378100;;hold 674548868;;enter;;myhold;;put %1 663378100
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: at the moment I have loads of different portal aliases set up so I can map them. according to this page once the portal has veen set to a room I don't need aliases any more?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: so I can just have this 'global' alias everytime I want to do mapper portal?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: If you create the "mapper portal" command using an alias, the mapper will still try to use the alias.  If you give it specific commands, i.e. "get portal bag;wear portal;enter" etc, etc then you don't need aliases
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: ah,I see, thank you :)
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: is there a way to delete mapper portals in your mapper
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: yes, there's a command in there somewhere if you look it up in the help file
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ok i must be blind lol didn't see it before thank you
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: mapper delete portal <command> or mapper delete portal #<index>
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: ah you got it :) 
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: what is the function in lua to transform small letters in big letters?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: string.lower(string)
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Probably upper.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: he wanted string.upper(string) :P
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: thx :P
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: damn you dyslexia
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: misread that as slydexia.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: almost typed it like that he
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: they figured out the cure for that, its an eye excercise
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: yeah i read books and time myself to force my brain to process it fast
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: 8 hours a week minimum
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's not dyslexia
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: how to change a string color? - lua
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Is there not an API?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: anyone experience with the luaEclipse plugin ?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it dint work well for plugins i found
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: what do you use then for development ?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: luaedit ?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: notepad++
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: notepad++
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: haha oke
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: no debugging tehn
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: komodo is good too
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: debugging would never work in any ide bust mush
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: hmm yes i was looking for a interpreter
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: i don't know komodo i will check that one out
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i use a command to toggle debug messages in mt plugs
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: you just write notes ?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have a DebugNote command i wrote
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: they tend to have 1 feature missing.. just 1 short of being perfect:)
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and DebugTprint
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: i want to alter the mapper plugin so it will also record mobs
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: dont alter it
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: why not ?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: write a standalone that uses a new db file
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: of course
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: the mapper plugin is the best plugin i have seen
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: agreed
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: l
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: is there any pluggins or add-ons for phone based clients that don't run on mxit for example BBSSH?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Anyone can guess why changing the hard-drive in a computer might affect its ability to boot from a CD-ROM?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: the bios boot order
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: booting from HD is not even enabled in the BIOS.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: only booting from CD is enabled
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yet it boots from the CD fine with one HDD in, but not another
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: jumper settings on the hd
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: jumper settings?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: any idea how I can fix the problem? I just want to boot from a CD.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: without putting the other HD back in
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: pull the little plastic thing off the pins
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: usually 6-8 pins on the hd with a plastic jumper on them... the position of the jumper designates the drive as a master, slave, etc.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: should be near the power/ata plug
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I will take a look
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: you have them on the same channel?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: why would that affect ability to boot from a CD though? I even disabled boot from HD in the BIOS
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: presumably if I literally unplug the HD it would boot from the disk fine
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: if they're both set as slave (generally cd drives are) they'll conflict
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: same as if they're master
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: likely scenario is ur cd is set as slave and ur non-working is too.. it should be master
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Sometimes cable-select will screw things up if the other is set as master/slave as well.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: that too
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: so I can see eight pins and there are two white bits of plastic on the fire sides
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: so 4 free pins in the centre
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: should be a little diagram on the drive label
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: fire = far
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I see, apparently it is set as master
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I find this suprising because I've been able to boot from CDs before with this jumper arrangement
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it's only since I attempted to install FreeBSD that I've had this problem
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: and that same exact cd boots with the other drive in ?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yes.....and I have over 20 boot CDs with different OS, none of them work
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: not that I've tried them all but I was starting to sense a pattern after 3 or 4
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: you check your jumper setting on the other drive ?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yes hold on
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: damn brb emergency
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: ok
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: fml someone has run over my cat
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: going to have to go and bury her
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I'm devastated
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dagfib (
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: one less scheming spy to blab your dastardly plans to the world.
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: sorry man that sucks
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I really feel terrible, I think fixing this HD is the only thing that can take my mind off things
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buffy Anne Tech: If I am using mushclient, and put in the alias for being able to make aliases at the command prompt, is there a way to make all newly created aliases automatically expand variables so that they work without me having to go in and click that every time?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Is it possible to create more than one status window in cmud?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: but each regular window can have it's own status window settings that will change the status window when the regular window becomes the active window
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is there a way to change how long a DHCP lease is given out through a router? or is it up to the ISP?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buffy Anne Tech: I think it's the ISP
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: it's decided by the DHCP server
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that entirely depends on which DHCP lease you mean
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: unless it is your internal network your talking about
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you could shell out the $$ for a static
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was asking about a DC problem yesterday, i was looking in my routers event logs and it appears any time that i get DCed while maintaining my connection, there is a critical error involving the DHCP
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: update your router
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: there is no update button like in other routers i have used, and i dont know how to manually update one
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyways a quick google search looks like it has the latest firmware
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: do the right thing and goto best buy. buy a router try it out for a little bit and see if your router is physically the problem
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: if it is order one for cheaper of the internet and then return the one to best buy
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: was what i was going to do
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: go tplink... very reliable
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Verpes, that is cheap and not decent ethics
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hmm why?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have always liked netgear, this is the first time i have had a problem with them
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: how old is the router?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: no clue, i wanted to buy a different router anyways, now i have an excuse to
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: we have cable internet, what is the interface called is it a coax?
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: docsis
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: coax to your modem, typically
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: then the modem supplies normal LAN network signal to your router
T3/r7/2012-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: at the moment we have a modem/router that takes our coax and spits out our wireless
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: any ideea how can i download this video? mms://wm.interoute.com/{04b893a6-ffe1-42b7-b4eb-df11d84003f0}/{cbddf9e2-c3d0-4a43-9410-53b542f4f377}/SEL3 FULL HIGH_1000001707_NoDRM.WMV
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: it is automatic open and stream it...but i want to save it to my computer 
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Right-click, save link as?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: Without checking the link, I'd say if it loads in a player window you may be able to get it on firefox wtih the "Flash Video Downloader" plugin.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: dosent work
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: Not sure about other browsers, but that works with some flash games and most videos. Some of them are locked down pretty tight, though.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: maybe this? http://internetdownloadmanager.com/
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: it dosent work with flash video downloader on mozila :)
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: i tried with firebug to and with web video downloader to still dosent work
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: ferne it dosent work with internetdownloader to...
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Tried FlashGot? Never seen the video or swf it can't yoink
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The MMS protocol might be what is screwing with the more basic downloaders, though
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: MMS is downloadable with mplayer, usually.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: the problem is the page have a direct link to video and when you click on link it automatic opens with a player
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: thats the website http://www.enterprisemedia.com/product/00355/success_selling.html and i want to download preview downloads part 3
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yulian Tech: where is it I alter my numeric keypads in zMUD ?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Need some help before I buy people: MadCatz Cyborg, Logitech G500, or M$ X8 ?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc, so the new abe spellup will just recast the spells when they fall off, right?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: Ive loaded Bast spellup plugin...but no idea what I should do now...any tips pls?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: bsp sadd bless
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: so doesnt auto add...need to add manually?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: and how do you add spells for the 'spell others bit' pls? just click on the bit in the mini window?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: bsp sadd all then
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I don't know about others. And I've never seen any spellup miniwindow too. What's it do?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: there is a miniwindow front end...all new to me...though looks nice
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: bsp sadd all does the trick...thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: doesn anyone use Bast's Boradcast runto plugin?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: is there a plugin that estimates when the next million mobs hour double will be?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: anyone good with Bast miniwindows?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it's amazing how much trouble a faulty RAM stick was causing
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: gregor, that's what she said
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I basically could not install 95% of programs because the installers kept crashing
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I've tried it on several machines and just assumed I was cursed until I realised the common denominator was a 1GB stick of DDR RAM
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: on windows OS it was actually just randomly switching itself off if you tried to do anything too intensive
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: just removed the faulty stick and installed a linux distro with not a single error
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: did you install 64 bit or 32 bit linux?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it's taken me way too long to figure out, I just assumed the motherboard was fried or something
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I've tried over 20 distros.....
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I've got WattOS on now
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What's WattOS?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it's quite nice actually, lightweight version of ubuntu with LXDE
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: It took like, 8 minutes to install.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: There was Lubuntu a while back I think.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yeah, 8-minute install would win me over :D
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: The thing I've found with the latest ubuntu is.....you really need 1GB of RAM minimum
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it won't run well on older systems
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yeah, it's the latest...
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: this lightweight stuff is good for older systems
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FnAqBroke Virigoth Tech: Is there any way to clear all your plugin states files so they can re-generate?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ltsp5 is good for older systems too.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: nothing like linux terminal on a huge wide-screen monitor
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: Its been a long while, but I used to use blackbox a little on a 19", that was great
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: How many characters wide?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone know of a non debian based linux distro that supports x86_64 ?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Most of them?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: redhat?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: https://www.google.com/search?q=non+debian+based+linux+distro+that+supports+x86_64
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GraySong Gregor looks at Vakieh and goes "Heh."
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: I used to be a Gentoo guy, but not so much anymore.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: i'm on ubuntu 64 right now.. love it =)
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: Ubuntu rocks
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: All of them...
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Well, Ubuntu is Debian-based.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Arch Linux?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: yep i know, just saying =P
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: He did ask for non-Debian based distros.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: CentOS, RedHat, etc. Gentoo.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: i mentioned redhat above
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RUM-FILLED Robbo rapidly nods twice at Infectious Prion, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Sorry to be repetitive ;)
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Fedora, then :P
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Always Slackware, of course.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: i'm anything but a linux pro, but ubuntu 11/12 has been the first where everything works with minimal tweaking
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: I'd give slackware or Redhat a shot
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Though I haven't used Slack since 1.x releases.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i havent used slack since 7.x
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I was trying out puppy linux the other day, seems like it's supposed to function without a HD and boot from CD each time
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: gregor, i think puppy also supports ppc architectures
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I recently booted FluxFlux onto a Korean netbook, it's pretty slick.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: lol...Mush connected for 5 days, currently sitting on 800 meg RAM...
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it just creates a save file on any media you've put in like USB stick
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Gotta love those mem leaks
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I think maybe puppy is slackware not sure
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Problem is, it's only available in German, the change language option doesn't seem to work.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: My buddy downloaded slack on his dad's ISDN line (who was developing Windows NT 3.5 - 32-bit!).. what was it.. 22 diskettes?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: trurien i dont mind german, i thought you were gonna say korean :(
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Robbo: these days that is a small distro :P
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: robbo it was only like 6 diskettes if you didnt want x
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: robbo and back then console + bitchx + quake was all anyone needed
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Yeah, the base was only a handful.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: I was doing development and other things at the time.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i think the default options came with tintin not tinyfugue though :(
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Plus running web/mail servers for a college.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Restarted Mush, now 56 meg...87% reduction
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: ah diskettes, i remember getting excited by cd-rom technology in 1994 and how many diskettes equivalent it was.  hehe
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: robbo what distros would you try if you wanted to lower your ram footprint?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: prion nod... now if you dont have a 2 terabyte hard disk array, its just not cool :P
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I remember the read-only stickers on the CD-sized floppys :)
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Voder caresses his Torch diskette drive (BBC B)
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Probably Gentoo or slack. Compile to your taste.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Write-protect...
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: robbo do you know if either of those lets you specific prelinking options?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: I had the OS/2 2.99 Beta on diskettes. Got 3.0 WARP full release on CD.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Sure. I haven't done Slack in a long while, but Gentoo allows you to set those globally for most compiles.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: You can tweak all sorts of compiler optimization flags, etc.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i'm not sure i want globally, meh/
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: maybe ill just try a few livecds and see what works... thanks guys ( eoc)
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Well, you can also set per package.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: per package cflags and gcc opts?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Yeah, absolutely.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: interesting. ill have to read more on that
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Generally I was too lazy for that, I'd just set the flags high enough that they could cause trouble once in a while, then turn them down if I had issues.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: robbo, you know of any reason 'not' to use busybox?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: back hackers
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra prefers XMonad as the window manager.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RUM-FILLED Robbo shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cizra busybox is not a wm, it's a tiny base system suite
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: gruagach any specific vulns ? or just general backhackers?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Usually found on things like rooted android phones :P
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: robbo, and many routers and bar gaming machines
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: usually with both a busybox and adam2 login.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Oh, I read OpenBox. Sorry.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but that aside... i'm just trying to keep my ram usage down.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: (obv running fewwer programs would help, and using a multicall binary like busybox seems appealing)
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: I guess the question is _how_ low.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Obviously in the old days it was all about custom compiling your kernel...
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: But that was when you were running with 8MB of RAM or something :P
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: right, and then dropping everything but the boot requirements to modules
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RUM-FILLED Robbo nods.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: robbo, i was running on 16 mb =)
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and then a 4G swap ... lols
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: now i'm running on 2G... and a 4G swap.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: I ran a college on an 8MB 486SX/25. 400 mail users, the website for the college, and they taught programming classes using shell accounts on it.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Upgraded to DX + 8 more MB, but it died in a lightning strike later.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: awe
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Booted, but after 3 days of FSCK, it was done for :P
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmmn. the machine died or just the ide controller?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: can't even remember the last time i heard 386 or 486sx or dx.. haha
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: prion, i junked my dx when its power supply died
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: couldnt find a power supply that cost less than the machine :(
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: 486dx66 was my first PC, ran doom networked on it, and lost 2 months while having the best time ever
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: that reminds me of the days of boot disks with custom autoexec.bat and config.sys files just to get that one game working =P
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Mighta just been the drive itself.. we just didn't have backups :P
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: So ordered a new machine. The old one had an uptime of somewhere around 2.5 years anyway :P
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: prion =) yeah... nothing like having to specific ram allocation or modify ansi.sys
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: copy con: config.sys
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: ^D
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: no... copy con /a 
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Oh, err, ^Z
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 E620 T6 :/
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: sigh. maybe i should LFS it.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Wow, Voder, you win :P
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: voder loses, his game wakes his parents and they ground him for playing the computer at night
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: *busted*
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i'm almost tempted to install windows, just to game with...
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: there may be a little truth in that
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone had much luck doing a windows95 DomU with xen?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: or do i get vakieh's 'oh google for succesful people, nobody on aard uses xen speech' ... hmmn. google gives me migration guides to kvm X.X
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: time for tea, back later *tips hat*
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: ok so my computer has HDMI output, my TV has the red white and yellow cord input, i got a converter box that inputs my hdmi, but the converter box doesnt have red white and yellow, is has the HD version.... for the output...am i screwed? i cant get it to work.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The only TVs I know without hdmi OR composite are CRT tvs...you seriously hooking up a CRT to your computer?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: ya its old, but its twice as big as my computer monitor
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well, the problem you'll have is the composite output is all video, whereas with the rca cables the yellow is video, and the red and white are audio
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So you'll need a composite to rca box I suppose
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: well lets just leave audio out of it for now. i just want the video to work.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No, that's the issue I'm talking about - if you plug the three cables you have now, you will be plugging video outputs into audio inputs
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: i thought the video was just the yellow?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: i just want only video. no sound needed
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: What Vakieh is saying is that unless you've got a converter that will take the component RGB signals and convert them to a composite RCA signal, you can't attach it
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: the converter boxwith the hdmi in has vga out...
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: doesnt help?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: the Red/Green/Blue component cables each carry a part of the video signal... you need to convert those to the RCA (one yellow cable) format
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh. That is entirely different (VGA)
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: i was told this box would work. ill tell ya what ports it has
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It helps if your tv has vga input. Which as a CRT it won't.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: has Pr(red) Pb(blue) Y(green) VGA L/
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: has Pr(red) Pb(blue)    Y(green)   VGA    L/R(white and red
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The rgb is all one output, for composite video
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: With the tv you are describing, you got shafted
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: also has SPDIF output
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: dang.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As the white, red, and spdif are all audio
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: yeah, unless it has a yellow RCA video port, you can't connect without another adapter
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Buy this: http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-RCA-VGA-Cable-1-8m/dp/B002ZUI68G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1340204514&sr=8-1&keywords=hdmi+to+rca
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: WTF why do people sell you things you dont need. thanks for the help.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Depending on where you got it, it was probably some kid at a Best Buy or some such who didn't know what he was talking about - got a 50/50 chance of getting one of those on a good day
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tank Tech: just used daily blessing 5 mins before I quested..did not receive bonus quest points, still says:  next 2 quests completed will reward double quest points
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: HDMI to 3 RCA + VGA Cable  i dont need a converter, just that wire??
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Did you complete a quest, or a campaign?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And there is a small converter box on the wire, BullE
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tank Tech: yes I completed quest
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: so that wire is all i need? has inline converter built in?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Where the RCA and VGA splits - miniscule, but it's there
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: ok well thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If your pc can output sound via hdmi you have that as well :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: well on my other tv it just foes hdmi to hdmi with a normal hdmi cord and sound and video go out to tv just fine. but other tv blows
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: thanks again, much appreciated.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: np
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: hey i only have moey on paypal to buy that cord, can you check this for me and make sure its what i needed on ebay:
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-5-Feet-1-5M-Gold-HDMI-to-VGA-3-RCA-Converter-Adapter-Cable-1080p-for-HDTV-/180899695998?pt=US_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item2a1e764d7e
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah, it's the same thing, go for it
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: cool cool
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayres Tech: In the academy, klau asks for the "dark continent" name. this is abmigous, as both vidblain and abend are described as dark in "help world"
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayres Tech: off
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: both are described as dark but only one is described as a 'dark continent'
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: hmm connecting speckers to a variable resistor, ac supply and 3.5 jack impossible
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why not possible?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is there a way with cmud to gag something from my screen, but still have it appear in my log file?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Anyone have any idea why a barebones AardMUSH would be using huge amounts of memory? Just caught mine using 700 MB.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: plugin gone awry?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: is uses less memory the more tiers you have.  :p
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: runaway script, a script that is doing more than you think it is, or perhaps you plain have large amounts of data
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: how big is the file aardwolf.db ?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: hmm, script gone awry sounds like the most probably, cause it starts fine and grows as it stays open.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: 8 MB file size.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: yeh sounds like a script/plugin
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not necessarily, but likely.  Do you have a large scrollback size (I'm assuming you can change this value, like you can in cmud)?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i like my explaintaion.  (even if it's completely asinine)   LOL
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Sounds like a memory leak to me
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: I just left the scrollback settings at their default, never had a problem with that before.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: 700 meg in 10000 lines? doubtful?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it all depends on where it's happening, Starling.  There was never a leak in CMud, for example, but eventually it was discovered that there was an increasing amount of wasted space in the scrollback because of how (at the time) it was constructing the bounds of the scrollback buffer.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: I know I've never had an issue on any other computer. :P
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Is there a way to check if a plugin is causing the memory issue without disabling and enabling each plugin?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you mean besides Task Manager or allegedly better tools?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: I dunno if this relates at all, but it also used 43% of the CPU, which seems a little excessive.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, your task manager shows each plugin as a process?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: He probably meant the program overall, and that disabling each one in the program would show changes in the task manager.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what was asked was "without disabling and enabling each plugin?"...
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: Yeah, if he had each one listed on his task manager separately, he could see at a glance which one was causing the issue, though.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup...if only :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: does Mush even have threading?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: ooh, if we're wishing for things, I want a pony!
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I want that Companion thing from the Neanderthal Parallax trilogy.  I could just walk around playing Aardwolf from my forearm, without worrying about accidentally dropping an expensive phone.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they make armbands for phones
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: true, but that's not the same when the Companion is technologically equivalent to a high-end laptop or desktop as opposed to a high-end mobile device.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: plus, it wasn't strapped on. :P
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: Like a forearm implant? That would make upgrades a literal pain.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: is there a plugin that estimates the time to the next million mobs hour double?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: I try to put the map in a different window in cmud, but cannot get rid of the mapend tags somehow, any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailz Tech: whats the host for aardwolf? I just downloaded a midPSSH client
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailz Tech: midpSSH*
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: aardmud.org port 23. The IP address is 66.228.127.34
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailz Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: is there a plugin out there for mush that combines damage messages from skills and spells?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: when burning an ISO is it better to use a DVD or a CD (in this case its a linux live disk)
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: the size of the iso may force you to use a dvd
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: really depends on file size
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: Don't think it matters as long as it fits. Which one will burn/read faster?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: whatever has enough space and what can the rom read
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: if it's too big for CD< you have to DVD
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: last question for the day, favorite program to burn ISOs? i have used isoburn in the past, but i dont have one currently installed
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: ashmpoo
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avalist Tech: daemontools
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Daemontools or pineapple
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soris Tech: Whats a good Mud Client app for the iphone?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ashampoo is decent
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: what your favorite program to burn data disks?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: umm flash drive or ashampoo again
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: copy files to any windoze box and burn them
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: or to be fair, to any mac
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: um, my cmud has bugged out and I can't see any of my aliases/triggers/etc.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Any idea what to do?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: use mushclient :p
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it happens to me sometimes, relaunching fixes it
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: you are clicked into the wrong window
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: sounds simple but make sure you have the main window selected.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: happens occasionally to me when I somehow am opening a miniwindow settings
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: sometimes you can close the Package Editor, then reopen it and click the Refresh button.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Re-launching is not fixing it
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: okay, then it's time for the xml export/import process.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: god damnit
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Up your ass, Zugg, thanks for nothing you dickhead.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: when you open settings what "Folder" does it say up top/ 
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they aren't gone, Starling.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: save the aliases, macros and other files and then re-launch fresh cmud?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I know, it's just that I get tired of the constant zugg bugs.  If I could script lua I would ditch cmud for mush in a second.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: it's probably not a bug.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: ft we need to work on Starling and try to get an honest opinion from her sometime, she just holds back so much it's hard to know what she really means.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ironfist Razor puts his finger in his mouth and says, "Oopsie! Did I do that?"
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: was going to suggest tinyfugue - much lighter and easy to work with
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling tickles Ironfist Razor.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: come on starling, say what you mean
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Velian, there are no folders at all displayed.  The package editor window is totally blank.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what version are you in, Starling?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's 3.34, the most recent version.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: fresh files, or did you import from version 2/ZMud?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm not sure what I did, I was editing my bot^H^H^Hqp tracker, closed package editor and the program crashed.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Relaunched it, package editor is blank.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did you try the export process yet?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Not yet
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I've seen it go blank before, I seem to recall there being a fix, but it's been so long I'll be damned if I remember what it is.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: unless you got really REALLY unlucky and the crash happened at the moment CMud was saving to disk, the xml export process will fix it.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It saved just fine, far as I can tell, and only bombed when I went to close package editor.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Well, let's see what happens when I reimport this.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I did export and save a backup just a couple of days ago, good timing I guess
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: hm, importing did nothing
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what's in the xml file?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Lots of stuff
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did you delete the package file and create a new one to import into?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Yeah, I don't know what to do.  Package editor is still blank, even after export/import.  Time to reinstall I guess.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: try resetting the layouts.  There's one for the session, one for the package editor, and I think one for the mapper.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It would be nice, if zugg isn't going to develop this anymore, as appears to be the case, if he would just release the source code so somebody else can clean up his mess.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: CMud is as stable as Mush.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: You wanna learn Delphi to fix it?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you just have to get rid of your bad data first, because that's purely what's screwing you up.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that means fixing the mapfile, fixing the layouts, and fixing the package files.  This also includes stuff you as a user did not download or create.  And then there's the sessions.db file, which has no easy fix beyond "delete and recreate your sessions by hand".
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: huh, package editor > view > restore default layout seems to have fixed it
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: still, I wonder what went wrong.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: do you use lots of events?
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: And yes, if I could learn Delphi and fix it I would, alas I couldn't even get 'hello world' to run in C.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: Nah, Delphi is like Pascal.  Don't need to know C.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's not real different than that to script.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I already know delphi.  don't have the code, though.
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: oh great, all my triggers are duplicated
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's why you're supposed to first delete the package file, create a new one, and then import. ;)
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Okay, it appears that all is well
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Thanks, everyone :)
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: More cmud weirdness, it appears my macro keys are firing multiple times when pressed
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: But I don't see any duplicate settings, so I'm not sure what is wrong
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: prefs -> user inferface -> command line, enable macros override menu shortcuts
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Sorry for the dumb questions, it's been quite a long time since cmud has bombed badly
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McBeth Tech: anyone familar with the bast spellup plugin?
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: type bsp help mcbeth
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McBeth Tech: I keep getting Timer function "spell_display_timer" not found or had a previous error....and cant make it stop
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: reinstall the plugin
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McBeth Tech: reinstall removed the msg...but wont auto recast now
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: bsp sadd all
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elathan Tech: any good free mud clients available for the iPhone
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: free, yes, good, no
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elathan Tech: good enough to log on and get my daily blessing
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is this a "Free, Good, iPhone: pick two" sort of deal?
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: for that you can just just plain telnet
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: no, there is no 'good'
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Unless Android is a 4th option
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc, your spellup script's blacklist file, does it do a #gag of that person too, or is that separate?
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Escunar Tech: hi is there a soundpack for this mud?
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude grins mischievously.
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What's the ^M character, is it a linefeed?
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ^M is return
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: On bash, gnome-terminal, or screen... not sure which one is reading it :P
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ooh, just checked man ascii. Thanks anyway :)
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Is there a kill signal I can use to force screen to reread .screenrc?
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averax Tech: does anyone know of a good repop trigger for mushclient?
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: is the Samsung galaxy S2 and 3 a womens phone or more of a mans phone
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: what criteria do you use to judge that
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: accessibility and the design as well as the feel width etc.
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: the S2 is for men/techies. Women/sales people have iphones.
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: so im looking to buy a new notebook, looking to spend no more then a grand, besides aard (and guildwars), i do some work with photoshop/soundbooth and i do a lot of work on dreamweaver, any suggestions, i currently have a toshiba, but i do not think i want to buy another toshiba
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: why not toshiba ?
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have/had to many problems with this one
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: get a celeron processor. 2.0 gigs or higer.
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: lol i just stared blankly at a linux prompt telling myself no, spellup learned isn't the command to update. too much mud =P
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Here Comes Trouble Tech: What do I type to get bash's quest window to pop back up?
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it depends on which of his plugins you use, whether you use tabbar, whether it's miniwin_quest or miniwin_events that you're referring to
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vear Tech: anyone good with the mapper? just have a couple questions
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: mapper help should answer them all
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vear Tech: well, I
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vear Tech: well, I
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vear Tech: I can't figure out how to add a custom portal so it enters it automatically
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger fiendish, go to his site, click mushclient, clic wiki, included plugins, gmcp-enabled mapper...tons of questions answered there, and in the link to hosch's page on that page
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vear Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vear Tech: is there a way to add a custom portal so that the 'mapper find' command will be able to go through the portal?
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vear Tech: I can't find the answer on his website
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: just add portal
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vear Tech: i tried the mapper portal, but when I do the mapper find, the rooms on the other side are still unknown
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: make alias that does the portal changing from bags etc (like transport) and then use portal for mapper as "transport itemnum" 
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: you mean room portals?
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vear Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: those are cexits
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vear Tech: ohh, is there a way to add those?
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: mapper cexit enter portal
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: it's all in mapper help like I said in first place
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vear Tech: yeah, I'm sorry.. I didn't know it was a 'cexit'
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vear Tech: thanks! :)
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: no worries, now you know :)
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: it's custom exit...works for everything like that...portals you use for item portals that you carry
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vear Tech: gotchya
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Winkle, you should make a S&D for cmud users so we can all feel the bot-like love.
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: where does my router gets its date/time from? it says its Current System Time: Fri Jun 22 01:50:05 2012, which is not GMT because im GMT-8
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: from a clock
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: onboard
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hmm should be able to set it in the settings
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i dont see any kind of system settings for time, i really do need a new router they are just more expensive then i want to pay
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: FWIW, at level 1 I haven't seen a single extra hit due to instinct, at 201 it amounted to 1%
T3/r7/2012-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: how do i see which version of mush i'm running?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: help about
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loud&Proud Broud Tech: help->about mushclient
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: help > about
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: no no no, not that, the one for fiendish
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: snapshot!  thats what its called.
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: how do i tell which one I have?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no clue
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you'd think "mapper help" would say, but it doesn't
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i gotta remind fiend to add it the next time he's around
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: mapper shouldnt.  maybe a mush help or something like that
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: why would mush help list a plugin version number?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thereassa Tech: that reminds me where do I get the best version of the aadrplugins for mushclient? 
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i'm using the download from the main site... plus winkle's plugins, works good for me
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not to mention that upgrading is a pita
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thereassa Tech: winkles?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: winklewinkle
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thereassa Tech: well I'm not dure where mine came from ... it was there so I started playing lol
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: 1 wrong step upgrading and your mapper gets reset, not fun
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thereassa Tech: ok so whats the right steps?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: 1 sec while i find the link
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah it's on the download page... http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thereassa Tech: ok reading it now
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: when did you download last, if you can add cexits, i don't think there's any real reason to upgrade :)
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: last update was to "mapper help" explaining about portal use... for some reason fiend has a funny idea what "current room" means... apparently it's /not/ the room you're currently in
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: i'm not asking about a plugin... i want to know whcih MUCH I have.
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thereassa Tech: ok upgrading sounds like work is there any real difference in  say the last 3-4 months ish
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Type checkversion
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: thanks, thats it.
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thereassa Tech: says not a command
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I was answering Cupcake, not you :)
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thereassa Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: But if you don't have checkversion, you definitely need to upgrade.  It's been a LOT longer than 3-4 months since that was added.
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and checkverion /is/ a plugin
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: hmm.. whatever.  :p
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: checkversion even
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: some new features not loaded by default it seems...
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: lol, since r768
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: im running r1340
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Then you've manually disabled the plugin which contains 'checkversion'
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: and i refuse to upgrade, this version has two thing that seem to have dissapearred from newer ones that I dont wanna give ip
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Such as?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I won't try to convince you to upgrade.. just curious.
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: i can type a couple letters then up arrow to scroll through the matches in my history, skipping anything that doesnt match.
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: and when I type something LONG, my command window gets bigger so I can see everything I've typed.
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: my other character used a newer snapshot, and I cant do that with that one
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: uses* not used
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: about the only thing your missing is being able to change exits with right click...
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: but changing exits isn't really useful
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: That has little to do with the upgraded plugins from Fiendish and just settings that are disabled in the different copy of MUSHClient.  Those features you described are simply MUSHClient config settings.
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: really?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: know which ones?!?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: unles you want to make "south" go "north" :P
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: which version are you using? I think I'm using latest and my command bar will resize... though I haven't gotten the type-up-arrow thing to work yet
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I could probably hunt it down
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Try typing something you've already, Xantcha, and hold the alt-key and press uparrow
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: up arrow?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: this is 4.77, dunno about ther other one.  cant load it, i'd be multiplaying
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: cupcake, your mushclient version has NOTHING to do with which version of the aardwolf script package you're using.
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: version 4.81 ... and I got tab completion to work now
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you mean you figured out how to use fiends cryptic commands?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and you write down room numbers?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: xaxz i know that, but i thought you were saying it wasnt what fiendish did, but the client itself, in which case, the version DOES matter.
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I'm using Fiendish' package and some Bast scripts currently, but I plan to write my own once I get a bit more re-acquainted
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah, i could never get bast's scripts to work for me...
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Ahh, ok, I follow.  However, those things you described still work in my version (4.81) of MUSH.. though the use of the alt-key is necessary to scroll related previously typed commands.  Don't know if it used to.  I will hunt down the config options
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: add winkle's plugins and there isn't much left that you could want, unless you're a stat junkie :P
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: would be cool if the mapper merged with automap...
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: kinda silly having 2 maps all the time
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmm, I can't seem to find any settings specific to those features.  I would wager it works by default.  Always worth a try to download the latest version into a new folder and see if they exist.
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: omg I hate subnetting
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: aars 
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: aard uses subnet class c ?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Subnet is on your end, is it not?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: I nade this statement becasue of the port the client connect to
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the port has nothing to do with the subnet
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: any ideea how can i make all skill/spells hits in 1 round?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilava Tech: Hey guys, got something weird going on with my client, I am using the Aardwolf mushclient, And suddenly the keeps poping up, cords under room desc ie {coords}0,4,28 and chans are a bit messed up ie {chan ch=auction} Any idea whats causing it? have been checking helpfiles but bothing seems to be helping, and it continues to give me issue even when i relog, so i assume it's some command server side =/
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilava Tech: map*
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: type tags off
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilava Tech: That did it, Thanks Ayasinda :D
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilava Tech: Errrr the map seems to still show when i look though, and automap is off
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: you should never type tags off, that'll break most of your plugins
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: the plugins are supposed to be hiding the tags from your screen... did you disable some?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilava Tech: No, none. 
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilava Tech: unless a keystroke disables them :/
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilava Tech: All of them are enabled
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilava Tech: Looks like just the map plugin is broken atm
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: try reloading it
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilava Tech: Ok, well reinstalled the muchclient and it seemed to fix it, Duno why it bugged out like that, even reinstalling all the plugins didn't repair the acii mapper
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilava Tech: Thanks for all your help guys.
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: my former power supply was capable of making very large sparks.. unfortunately, it stopped working after the first one :(
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: my former power supply had a fan that decided to quit... I then learned that a power supply with a lazy fan can melt a video card
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: wow, guess the heat sink couldn't compensate
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: i got lucky -- doesn't look like anything else got destroyed
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godrik Tech: expensive lesson mine always shut down before it got that hot
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: heat sink is designed to dissipate heat generated from within the video card... this was external heat from the power supply... it overheated SUBSTANTIALLY and melted the video card before melting itself and shutting the computer down
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tootypants Tech: anyone know how to make another button like the action button
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: anyone familiar with using com objects in cmud?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Yes:  Recommendation: DON'T
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: unless you /absolutely/ have to, they're a HUGE pain
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: that doesn't really help me :P
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: you constantly lose your COM object, and then it gets locked by the OS and you can't reacquire it without some horrible hacks
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: well, do you have a better way for cmud to communicate with the enchanting program i'm writing?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Write it in CMUD?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I had a CMud plugin that connected through ODBC to a SQL database on my computer, but it crashed /all/ the time
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why does it need to be an sql database?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: yeah, write the program in lua in Cmud... I can't really help with that because I'm using Mush now
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: well, the problem i'm actually having is that my com objects aren't being released properly...
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: an old post i found on the zuggsoft forums says "Windows is *supposed* to handle the memory management of COM objects for you, so just clearing the variable is supposed to be good enough." ... which i did...
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: so am i looking at a windows bug here?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: you normally have to close the COM object first... if it's not closed, it won't be released by Windows, because it believes it's still open
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: close it how?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: /how/ you clsoe the COM object may change depending on which language you're using and what COM object you've created
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: oh, close it on the application side?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: unfortunately I can't remember how I handled that on my plugin... it's been almost 3 years
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone know how to charge a phone thats completely dead but keeps trying to reboot and then poweroff when you plug it in?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: replace the battery.
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: with what?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: ... a new battery? *blink*
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: you mean a new battery? the battery is ok it just is discharged
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ah then replace the phone
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: obviously the battery isn't ok if it's failing to charge and rebooting the phone...
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: you guys sure do waste bandwith giving bad advice.
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you consider it bad advice. I would change the phone.
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: no, bad advice would have been telling you to replace the battery with a coconut...
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I want a coconut-powered phone!
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: then I could convince my company to buy me an office on a tropical island
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Godrik Tech: i want mary ann
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: can I be your co-worker then?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: sorry, my "co-workers" will all be tanned and scantily-clad *wink*
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: is there an auto practice script? tired of practicing same skills very mort.
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catrin Tech: i closed and restarted mushclient and now i get no infomation on my big screen (not even when i type look) any ideas what i've done please?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catrin Tech: i do see that it says 'enabling gmcp' but i gather that is for the mapper
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: resetaard doesn't work?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catrin Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catrin Tech: sorry - took a while to get everything back to how it was before i did resetaard  (mental note - don't try that again) hehehe
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catrin Tech: let me disable search and destroy and restart again - perhaps i've done soemthing
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Ah, figures that a bot... er, I meant, MAPPER, would be at the root of the problem.
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catrin Tech: that's a bot?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catrin Tech: well, doing that worked lol
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: which do you mean starling, bot or mapper?
T3/r7/2012-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the proliferation of the aard Mapper(s) are proof that Aardwolf is a popular mud -- other less popular muds are without mappers, and are likely to remain unpopular as a result of the lack of superior mapper technology
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone know if it's possible to redefine the keypad commands in zmud?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: would be just silly if you couldnt...
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: tho i dont use zmud so dunno
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i could cheat by aliasing the commands they use, but that'd mean not being able to use "look" normally, which is a bit of a disadvantage
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: http://www.zuggsoft.com/library/book1/features.htm
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: wait bad link
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's a hidden macro somewhere in settings
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: good call
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: keypad or numpad class or something
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why this couldn't be in the regular helpfile i'll not know
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: i was almost there googling it too
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ta
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what's a good number of iteration times to use for truecrypt if on a slow machine and exceedingly paranoid?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: what could you possibly want to hide so badly.. suspicious!
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: prion nah, no suspicions, just randomness, like random screenings at the airport
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: hah
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: why would an encryption scheme need multiple iterations?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ranrr cause the decrypter probably has newer, faster hardware
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: the iteration times are calculated against my current machines 's speed in resolving test problem/functions
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and i'm sure that machines used for decryption would be several orders faster.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for paranoic use hidden volumen or even 2
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: you could truthfully give up the first password but it wouldnt be enough to access the data
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: don't forget to buy rations and clean water to store in the basement in case of nuclear holocaust
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: trachx hidden volume is useless , too large, i'd need a nested filesystem instead.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: beans and rice bro
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: prion don't forget to bring a wife
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Nothing strange about encrypting your laptop data, every sane person should do that.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for normal use using truecrypt is enough, regardless of setting
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: what does that mean, i have a gf (believe it or not)
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for paranoic you have use at least 2 hidden volumes
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Decrypting data doesn't happen in real life. Only in movies (and military).
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: prion i mean, if you're gonna lock yourself in a nuclear holocaust/bomb shelter for 30 years, you should make sure to plan ahead and bring a wife
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, you should set password on HDD if hdd supports that
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ranrr you never know, i could have pissed off somebody that works for the government. 
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hmm... I have all my stuff unencrypted and I'm doing just fine.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: trurien you sure, what's your ip address?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, you should not sent anythign via email which was not prior encrypted
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sure, until you get your laptop stolen.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ranrr i am tired of getting my laptop stolen =(
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ranrr: of course... but then I wouldn't have my data either.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Of course, encryption is only needed if you have some actual real data on it.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Right.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Because only your data is important and everyone else's is crap.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ranrr real data or fake data, or even just static source data, if someone is going to try and decrypt it, i want them to have to climb higher and walk further.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: me, if i buy a used laptop from a legitimate source, and it has an ecrypted folder... i just format/shred it.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Nobody is going to do that. And if they tried, they would fail. Decryption is much, much, much, much harder than you think.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ranrr the weakest link in the chain is always the human operator, using weak values for things like password, iteration type, block length and so on
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Unless you use a bad encryption scheme.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ah, thought it might have been VampireDude. The conversation jumped without warning.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ranrr exactly, which brings us full circle to the q: re: iteration times.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Any encryption software that requires your to select iterations, block length and so on is bad and should be avoided.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: But if they wanted to, and they had the data, they have all the time in the world to decrypt it.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: tweaking your encryption scheme should be done by developers that know what they do, not end users
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: imho
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: fact- if anybody really really wanted to decrypt your data, they could, unless you used a one time pad
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No, they couldn't.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: But there will come a time where said developers would be the end users of those encryption protocols, right?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: prion, not just anybody.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Only in theory.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: to decrypt a one time pad requires a lot of space, machines, or people with typewritters that don't mind typing correctly spelled gibberish ...
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: by anybody i mean law enforcement 
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Probably not even them. 
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: prion most law enforcement people i know are just waiting for pensions, they don't want to spend a year typing gibberish
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you use a proper scheme.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: not aware of very many otp encryption schemes for computers though, and the hashing algorithm based ones are so much simpler to find and export.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i think ultimately, by using a common implementation such as rijndael, it would be a lot easier to claim you hadnt built it from the ground up as well.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Came to this a little late - but do the people arguing in favour of easy decryption understand the FBI was unable to decrypt megaupload's server data?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's the point I was trying to make, thanks for the example :D
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: law enforces (or will enforce soon) you to reveal passwords otherwise you will be assumed guilty that is why you should use at least 2 hidden volumes - you reveal password to normal volumen, then after more pressure to 1st hidden volumen and still you are safe with your 2nd hiddent volument
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vakieh i don't think that megauploads servers were off at the time.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: trachx that varies by country, here in the u.s. they dont force you to reveal a password until they can prove that you had posession of illegal content.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ? VD? This is current, they have the hard disks in hand, encrypted - trying to order Kim Dotcom to decrypt them
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: some countries don't even allow their citizens to use encryption... but while i live in one that does, i figure i may as well use it
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: don't underestimate what the CIA can do, even dedicated cryptanalysis enthusiasts, after all RSA-768 was broken in 2009
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vakieh, they have to show that the illegal content was sent to that machine/pulled onto that machine first... if they can do that, they can try to compel it
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: prion cia doesnt operate domestically :)
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You don't think perhaps the FBI would have asked the CIA for help before they begged another government for legislative help?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: if the nsa cared, they'd just put up a profile on me and figure out what sorts of passwords i'd likely use =) and run those.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: RSA was known to be weak much earlier than it was actually broken
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's been know at least since the 90s
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vakieh the fbi and cia are very territorial, they don't play well together...
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but none the less, i still need to know a good value to use as an iteration time.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: huge computing power is now very cheap, if someone was serious about deciphering your stuff they could have a good go at it
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No, they couldn't.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: prion what's the max integer length and what's the maximum read length for the ram controller on a computer they'd use?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: RSA-768 involves factoring a 232 digit prime... that is some serious processing which was thought to require thousands of years when RSA was introduced.. but someone did it and won a $50k prize
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: prion you can't factor primes... thats why they're called primes
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: touche
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The simple fact of the matter is that beyond a certain range, encryption can be increased far beyond the ability of computational power to keep up
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr rapidly nods twice at Vakieh, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 128 cracked? use 256...or 512...or ...
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: typo.. you know what i mean.. i.e. finding the two primes which give rsa number
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vakieh 1024 symmetrical of course.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I've used 2048 since the 90s. 
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Would 768 mean it requires 768 bits to represent each of the primes used in the encryption?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if you really want to crack something and don't care how long it takes, you can store the data, wait 30 years, and hope computational power has increased enough in that time.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ranrr with hashes or with a specific encryption string?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If a simple hash and salt is enough to render a cc database nigh unbreakable, how much better do you think more heavy handed techniques are?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Or you can send it to China where they have 100 million crackers working in parallel.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, dsa encryption.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: assuming it uses a known public key encryption scheme, of course
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: hashes isn't encryption
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vakieh i think my country still gets ants in its pants if someone uses more than 43 bit encryption without special licenses or a backdoor for government
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well yeah, the whole Java sec packages thing was bs, but with open source you can use whatever you like and voila!
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Which country is that, VD? 
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ranrr united states of america.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, then you are screwed. You should move somewhere that isn't a police state.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if you really want perfect security, you can always physically deliver otps...
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i might. but in the interim, i'll use something like rijndael's hashing.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Only a matter of time before a SOPA like piece of bs gets passed, not going to be long before the tech companies leave the media lobbyists to rot
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: sonshi oh? but how would i implement the otp on disk :P
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Pretty soon it will be the United States MPAA/RIAA featuring Big Oil
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: the president's nuclear authorization kit uses a OTP
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: diy
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vakieh if they restrict our ability to protect our data, i think a lot of us will be tempted to restrict their ability to protect their data
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lol, because that always works
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ever hear of the Patriot Act?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vakieh, that's only for money launderers and terrorists.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Aka, don't encrypt your data, because then the terrorists win.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: use your own psuedorandom code to generate a bitstring no one can guess
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reavan Tech: could someone help me please with the aardwolf client?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: "The President has declared Anonymous to be a terrorist organisation under the Patriot Act, all those in possession of cyber security warfare devices or software are to be renditioned immediately"
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: sonshi pseudorandom code isnt hard to generate... but in the end, i still need a block layer.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vakieh well to be fair, anonymous has foreign funding.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reavan Tech: anyone quickly help me with a question on the aardwolf client please?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: vampiredude, you can make an OTP easily... find the length of your file to be encrypted, and then create a file of the same length consisting of random characters (OTP).  then XOR your plaintext with the OTP to create the ciphertext, and XOR it again to retrieve the plaintext.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so it really does fall within the framework of the act...
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Like they'll care if you actually indentify with Anon - it will be pc = anon
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: if those egyption revolutionaries had been funded by the usa, it would've shortened their credibility.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: >anonymous
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: >foreign funding
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: it's unbreakable security provided nobody ever gains access to the OTP file
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: you've been reading too much news
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: seems like a lot of work to hide your naughty pictures
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I think VD is just scared of being doxxed by the people he trolls
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: prion, ah, but its not a single file, it's a file container
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: (and just remember to keep your bitstring somewhere safe)
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: I think VD is just 16 :/
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: you can do it to a zip file or whatever
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: prion how many loops of that, ?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: one XOR operation to encrypt, one XOR operation to decrypt
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: it is uncrackable in theory... but that hinges on keeping the OTP secret
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reavan Tech: sorry but could someone help me with the aardwolf client, it keeps saying i have a tcp/ip error and can't connect, any help would be appreciated please
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: reavan is your firewall blocking it?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Could also need the port forwarded in the router
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reavan Tech: i'm not sure, what ports should be open?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No port forwarding is needed.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Try rebooting your puter, and make sure that the network works in e.g. a browser, and then try the client again.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Aard uses 4010, and I had to forward on mine due to my rather draconian default settings :-P
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reavan Tech: it says unable to create tcp/ip socket
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reavan Tech: code 10106
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reavan Tech: and then unable to initiate a service provider
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Okrah Tech: hey, i'm using zmud, does anyone know how to increase the font size please?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: CMUD : In an Alias how would I expand a #ADDKEY @item.id so that it would #ADDKEY 1111, where @item.id=1111?  Currently it's adding the #ADDKEY information into item.id, not a variable named 1111
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: One sec.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: #ADDKEY KeyVariable.LevelOne NewKey NewValue should work.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Ohh.. wait...
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: the alias won't know what the variable name is supposed to be.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: I think usually I just broke down and used ...
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: I think usually I just broke down and used %addkey...
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: the variable name is inside @item
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: oh?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Aaahhh, for the simple pleasures of Lua :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: But thinking I had something where I made that work... looking.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Velian pats Vakieh on his head.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: cause expand/concat don't do it.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cmud supports lua...but don't confuse lua itself with MUSHclient's implementation/syntax of it
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lua is almost always an embedded and modifed language
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylraak Tech: mush changes lua syntax?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not in any enormous ways, but the MUSH API is it's own beast
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lua doesn't know anything about the majority of things in MUDs, so MUSH would need to invent them in lua
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylraak Tech: Sure, APIs will always be all over the place :)
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: very few questions/answers about scripting here are lua syntax questions, vs MUSHclient conventions
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I want big, but not too big stacks, for aoe.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And most can be answered via Help->Functions List
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylraak Tech: That makes sense. I was just thrown by the comment that mush isn't 'true' lua.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylraak Tech: And only asked because most of my experience is in mudlet, not mush
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: who said that?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my response of lua vs MUSH's implementation was because vakieh said for the simple pleasure of lua, as if lua would make this any easier
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylraak Tech: Ahh, gotcha
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Makes it easier on the eyes :-P Too many %s
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the %s would still need to be there
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: -i vakeih
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylraak Tech: It would make it easier only because you wouldn't be fighting cmud bugs :)
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you would, just like MUSHclient scripts must fight MUSHclient stuff
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And tbh, the Mush variable setup sound far less convoluted than this cmud style
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right...but that's MUSH vs cmud, not lua vs zscript
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which was my point
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Really, the 4 items can be considered 2 for any rational discussion
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not with your initial comment they can't
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylraak Tech: I was seeking excuses to tinker with mudlet in aard, but the aard mushclient is already so advanced... can't see much reason. Kudos to aardclient folks.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: aside from personal aliases and triggers most stuff is already coded in mushclient
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylraak Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, mudlet came on the scene strong with the MAG (which was before the current aard MUSHclient), but it hasn't been touched in years
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That is truly the mushclient advantage, so many active coders
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: the only thing i don't care for in mushclient is that i wish that you could use gmcp a little easier with triggers 
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oddly enough, one of cmud's nicest features works against that...the repository
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylraak Tech: Yep, the only think I really like in mudlet better is its mapper implementation. But the aard one is totally functional, so kinda killed my interest since all the work would be simply bringing it up to mush's functionality
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It's pretty easy Akuri, with broadcast plugin, but you need to use an actual plugin to use that I guess.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: to put out @ simply use two @
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: any Idea why when i use %concat(@,item,@item.id) it's coming out as "tem1111" where 1111 is the @item.id (CMUD)
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: who is that first 2?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: who is that first 
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: did you want it to show as @item1111
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: who is that first @?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: yes Hadar
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: put "" around the @
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: yep :)
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: figures. I had just tried that.  *sigh* Thanks :)
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: Still not doing what I want it to.  basically i have an alias that sends : @reportchannel "Item Info : "%expanddb(%concat("@",item,@item.id))
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: and it comes out with gtell Item Info : tem1111
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i forgot put "" around item also its a string
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: still popping out tem1111
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: the @i keeps disappearing...
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Totally Un Rhuli Tech: Have you tried @i?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Totally Un Rhuli Tech: Have you tried @@i?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: i didn't think cmud would parse @ away like that.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: forgot if you are sending it to aard you need @@
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: it should pare @item1111 before it comes to aard though.  and it works fine if i type it out in my cmd line, but not if It comes from a cmud Alias
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: aardwolf is eating the @i not cmud
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: "parse"
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if you are doing %concat("@","item",@item.db) ... cmud sees the first part as a string not as a variable, so once it hits the mud the mud parses it
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: i tried the double @ and it comes out with @item1111 instead of expanding the db...
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: "%expanddb(%concat(@item,@item.id)) should do what you are looking for
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i thought you originally wanted @item as a string, and not parsed
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: minus the " at the begining lol
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: hmm still parsing weird.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: exact alias is : @reportChannel  "Item Info:" %expanddb(%concat(@item,@ItemInfo2.id))
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: it sends :spo Item Info : IS=1|DR=6
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: it sends :spo Item Info : @item819290091
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: then appears as (Spouse): Item Info : tem819290091
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: is there a way to call a variable whose name is stored in another variable's value? in LUA
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: use a table
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: hmm like an array? is that the only way to do it
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: as far as i know... it's much better programming practice anyway
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cyne nods.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: alright, thanks!
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: you could probably hack it with loadstring, though i haven't tested it
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: but a table will be a lot easier
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Bast's spellup plugin says, "Spell 'revelation' is not a spellup." Why's that?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Here Comes Trouble Tech: I have bast's kill plugin on, for mobkills. How do I check my mobkills? :)
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: does pastebin ever clear pastes that are never supposed to expire, if they haven't been accessed in a long time or something?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i suppoed eventually they made have to, but storing text is SO small file wise, it's a long eventually.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Bast's spellup plugin says, "Spell 'revelation' is not a spellup." Why's that? Any ideas how to fix that?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: i'm looking for a paste and can't find it :(
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Sometimes I use the spell number instead and a spell will work.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hmm! Right! Thanks Mendaloth!
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Here Comes Trouble Tech: Can someone make an alias for me? For recall to get academy from luggage wear academy enter academy and wearl and put academy back in luggage? :(
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: What client are you using?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Here Comes Trouble Tech: Aardmush O-o
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Game>configure>alias>add
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Here Comes Trouble Tech: I'm running out of endurance from recalling :(
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Then put all the commands in the bigbox and whatever you want the alias to be called in the small box
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Call it something other than recall
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: You can also do it mudside in a single line but you'll need to seperate the commands with double semicolons
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Here Comes Trouble Tech: Thanks! :)
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Here Comes Trouble Tech: Yeah amazing! Woot woot1
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: would anyone know how to track how many mobs are in a room while charging, im using a guess method right now, with charge lines/4 = mobs, but its not always correct
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: count the number of mobs in the room instead of charge lines? :P
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: scan.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: consider.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: this is my output (Group) Hadar: 'Charge>Has Done 2110(1055) Damage to 2 mobs'
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: anyone know why my map all of a sudden has lost its colours?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: to count the mobs, i would need to start making a DB of all the shortnames in the game to check against, and i dont want to to that =/
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: or learn regex.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: ^
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: well, when you move (when charging), you get a list of mobs...
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is there a way to run MUSHclient on an Android device?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: Blowtorch for android.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: maybe if you could manage to find a phone port of wine, but im going to say off hand no
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You could run it on a pc and remote in to the pc
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: But vnc or whatever you use will most likely be pretty slow so the performance might not be acceptable.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That's why I like console based clients, much easier/faster to control remotely.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien rapidly nods twice at Ixle, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: <insert shameless plug for tintin here>
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: ughh i need help with bastmush plugins.. whenever i load a new plugin i get several 'unable to create save state' error messages and i can only get spellup autohunt miniwin events and planesmob to work properly.. why do i get these error messages?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you didn't put the MUSHclient folder in program files, did you?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: no i didnt
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i assume thats my problem?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: its in C:\users subdir
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: c:\users\your user, or just c:\users?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check the permissions on worlds -> plugins -> state within it
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: C
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: c \users\myuser\games\blood
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that should be a fine place for it :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: well looks like everything has full control in the security tab of state folder, however, there is a little padlock symbol on c \ myuser folder ?!
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: win7 fyi
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the entire bast folder is right in c:\users\youruser\games\bloood\mushclient\worlds\plugins?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: yeah.. i just noticed if i right click the myuser folder it says all files read only
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, I don't have a padlock on my c:\users\myuser folder
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: abe i always thought all your computers ran linux
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, I have MacOS, NetBSD, Windows & Solaris...no linux :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: work laptop is W7
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: well there are 24 save state files in the plugins\state folder all from today (new copy of mush in hope of getting this sorted once and for all)
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: model is acer aspire x1430
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: 4gb ddr3 RAM, 2GB onboard graphics, 1TB HD, dual core processor 1.3 GhZ ...
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: ugh, guess im stuck with this effin problem
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bloood lets out a string of curses that would make you blush if we hadn't censored him.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i also get the save state error messages upon launching mushclient and again after connecting.. about 5 or 6 of them sometimes 10 or more
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you didn't do anything weird with the mushclient folders, right? just unzipped aardmush from either the MUD's website or from Fiendish's google code site, and just unzipped bast into the worlds/plugins folder of that unzipped mushclient folder?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: tech dl'd fresh v.'s of mush and bast tonight, unzipped mush into where i said before, copied the unzipped bast folder into worlds plugins of the folder in myuser\blood
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: anyway, i moved the blood folder to my desktop and i didnt get the error save states that this time upon opening
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Then, did you load the Bast' Plugins?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RikiTiki Takihisis claps at Bloood's performance.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: BUT i STILL cant use eqdb for getting eq from a aard bag
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: 'get item bag' still works
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: doesnt even give a error message just a blank line
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: are you using the bag id number?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You need to get all from the bag so it can id it I think.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RikiTiki Takihisis nods at Turie.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: im using the identifier i gave it.. 'eqdb lget eqhigh 131'
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: oh...
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: using the eqdb or just get all from the bag
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You need to have the plugin id every item.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: how do i do that?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: just 'get all 3.bag' ?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: ok so when i try to 'eqdb lput eqlow 1 101' it comes up with a whole load of 'you dont have that' messages
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: is there any harm in deleting the save state files in plugins state folder?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is it normal the gpu to be working on 100%
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: any js geeks around?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I know some things about some things.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: js: function button() { if (buttonval=0) {buttonval=1
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: damn
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: anyone hav trouble with the bast eqdb plugin
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: ?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: bloood was having trouble with it earlier
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: is there a way in MUSH to pass a variable to an alias, eg. qu <whatever> will get <whatever> from bag and quaff
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: you can use *
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: then you can define the * with a%1
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: %1 rather
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obfuscated Ozu Tech: if you have 2 variables then %1 refers to first one and %2 the second etc.
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: yep
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: ahh neat thanks so in the alias definition %1 refers to the first parameter, %2 etc. and when I use it i would just say quaf <whatever> and whatever would be referenced by %1
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wakita Tech: wouldnt a hot key be easier?
T3/r7/2012-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i think you can go up to 99
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: anyone familiar with Bast's eqdb plugin?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}X's Noro Tech: Anyone know of a repop plugin for Mush?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: i have a few plugins installed on my mush that send the 'cp check' command whenever a campaign mob is killed..so it ends up sending 'cp check' 3 times. its very spammy, and very annoying. is there any way to make it so this is only sent once?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You would have to delete that command from two of the plugins
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: it would prolly be easy to do to just edit them and find 'cp c' right?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: grep 
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I would imagine
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: schweet
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If nothing else, you could modify the scripts to gag the cp check output from the mud. Then at least you wouldn't notice the spam.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If I understand the problem correctly. If you remove the cp check from some of the scripts they won't perform properly if you uninstall the one that is sending the cp check.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Used to be Loved Tech: actually, i just removed Bast's broadcast_cp and now it only says it once vs 3 times....
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If you aren't losing functionality from that plugin that you desire that is a fine solution.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: any ideea why my laptop works very fine on windows safe mode but when i start it normaly its very laggy? :D
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: whats laggy mean
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: is some scan running somewhere?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: like...it takes a lot to execute anything
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: nope..no scan
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wakita Tech: did you check msconfig?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Could be any number of issues, not the least of which would be software that starts in normal mode but not in safe mode...
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: check what there?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i'de run a maleware scan in safemode, but i'm no tech
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wakita Tech: does too much load up when windows start?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: yep...a LOT
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: did you close it all?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: la tine sunt in acelasi? :P
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: English only, please.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: ok..when windows load everything its ok...i see desktop items..hear the windows startup sound...and after that its blocked
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: look at what garbage is in your C:\WINDOWS\TEMP subdir -- if there are active or unusual files there, that may indicate active leeches
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: dont delete sys32, it doesnt make anything run faster.. i learned that one the hard way
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: clear out the Temporary Internet Files cache using the browser clear, and then look to see what "garbage" remains there (other than cookies)
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Any linux users of good speech recognition software?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What NES emulator do you all use on windows 7?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra uses no NES emulator on Windows 7.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda perks up, something must have grabbed his attention.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I...I use a nes emulator designed for PS2, which I emulate. Emuception at its finest, but it works :-P
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soris Tech: Whats a Good Mud app for the iPhone?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: ssh to a real computer
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soris Tech: What?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Better yet, VNC. This way you can use MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: doesnt that just multiply the number of potential problems =P emuception that is
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Apple products blow.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ssh to a real computer as said
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Is that fast enough to be functional Cizra?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soris Tech: VNC? Is that an app?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: i VNC to aardmush all the time...
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: For me, yes, fast enough.. And no, VNC is a technology, which can be implemented by an app.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: From a 3G connection?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cyne nods at Ixle.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Interesting.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I have no idea if it's 3G or not... lemme check
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: i would prefer a direct CLI connection
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: but i havent figured out how to do so yet on mac
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I'd prefer a direct neural link, but...well...
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I think it's called WCDMA.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HomerSimpson Tech: WCDMA is 3G yes
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Vakieh which PS2 emulator do you use?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Only one worth any time, PCSX2
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ok was just looking at that one. Gonna give it a try. Thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Be aware you need a beast of a machine to get much use out of it
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think my machine might be ok. 2nd generation i7 processor, 16 Gb ram and 5TB harddrives. and Nvidia 560 graf card. That ok?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: No, it sucks
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That will work nicely for most games...but my i7 quad w/16gb and SSDs with SLI 580s still lags on Killzone :-(
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: coming from you I'll see that as a compliment Starling
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling goes, "OK".
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: wow. ok thanks Vakieh. I'll give it a go.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Also, by 2nd gen, do you mean Ivy bridge??
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda nods.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ivy bridge should be 3rd gen, actually
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there were two gens of core processors on sandy bridge
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ah ok didnt know that
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone who got the i7 on Nehalem was insane
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Or filthy swimming in useless money rich
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: whoa. didn't realize they had 45nm version
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Checking up on Mr Wikipedia, I am sad to learn not 1, but *2* iterations past Ivy bridge are already in development :-(
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sad?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well, when I say me, I mean my wallet.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because you bought "tock" cpu? :P
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm still on wolfdale and very happy :P
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not to mention the 4nm in planning stages for 2022...
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Also, holy wtf batman, 7 atom transistors...
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: And it will all run just as slow as everything does now, because software will just become more and more bloated.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vakieh only runs slow when he emulates.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You know, there is a lot of non-bloated, good software out there, Starling.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Unfortunately, Windows isn't such a software package.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Fortunately, Windwoes is obsolete anyway.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra dumped it in 2002.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: w8 looks bad, but w7 has my love
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I have w8 running. It look very bad
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I saw windows 8 and couldn't believe it, it looks like a god damned ipad.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: And like the ipad, it will probably suck donkey nuts.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Here's hoping windows 9 is better
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: any ideea why my laptop windows7 works perfect in safe mode but when i start it normally it blocks after desktop icons apears?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hijackthis log would help
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: hijackthis? :) whats that?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: but what log to paste there? :)
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc nevermind, ifigured it out, i forgot to unset /spellbreak
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beastling Tech: help cant see what am typing until i send it
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beastling Tech: i tried echo
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beastling Tech: hello
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beastling Tech: can anyone help me
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orruk Tech: ask your question and see if someone responds to it
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beastling Tech: i cant see what am tyiping until i send it
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orruk Tech: what client are you using?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beastling Tech: i tried tech telnet
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beastling Tech: telnet
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beastling Tech: telnet
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orruk Tech: i don't use telnet but maybe someone will answer
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beastling Tech: ok
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think it's enough to type echo on
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beastling Tech: look
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beastling Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you need to enable echo on the telnet client you are using
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beastling Tech: it works
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beastling Tech: ttech tanks
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beastling Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: anyway to stop mush channel capture capturing mob says in room but still keep player says?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: right click the comm log for options :)
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Yes, but it just has "say" as one option and I want to keep player says on
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: so leave say on and turn mobsay off?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: scroll down. Turn off mobsay
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I see, thanks!
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: is there a way to scroll just the top half of your game window, make the pagebreak so i can see live feed from game and still scroll up and see old stuff?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: aard mush client
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: don't think it's a feature right now... 'bout the only thing I miss form z/cmud
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: ya its been buggin me for way too long, thinking about setting up a second chat window to capture everything...then it would work
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: just dont know how.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: was hoping somone mighta made one already
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not too much need for it...with the number of things already captured, you can tell what's going on in the live feed using the other windows, while you're scrolled up
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easy to see if you're in combat, if something's been auctioned, someone's talking to you, etc
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Hey Abe, my communication log has stopped working.  Any clues as to why?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in mushclient? are other gmcp things still working? type "prot", make sure gmcp's still on...type prot gmcp, make sure comm is still on
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: any gameboid users ?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know with cmud how i can circumvent sending something to gos when i mistype an areas keyword for running (eg: .aylor)
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: alias . slap self
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: tried that still sent it to gos
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: turn off goss
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: then I'm sorry, work for me in mush... it was worth a shot in zmud too
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: (untested): #oninput {^.(%w)$} {#if !%defined(%1, "path") {#noinput}}
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: change your aliases to not use a period?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i just remembered i have a var with all my keywords for areas, am just going to compair to that else noinput
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: ah, you could do that instead of using %defined
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: is there a command to tell me how many rooms in an area HAS been mapped?  I'd like to compare it to explo to see if I got them all
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh, MUSH
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll show you the rooms which have "stub" exits
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: only if the exit is visable thorough gmcp :P
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: runsql select count(*) as 'number of rooms mapped here' from rooms where area = 'bliss'
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: in mush you can click the "?" in the top right of your mapper to see alot of helpful commands for the mapper
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You need WinkleBot's mapper extender to have the runsql alias, though.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yeah, and it wont show me anythign that you get to with a custom exit or hidden or a portal
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i have the extended
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: cizra what do I type?  i dont understand your comment
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Umm, you'll have to substitute your desired area ID for 'bliss'
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: First figure out the area ID. Which area do you want?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: im in mirror
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: runsql select count(*) as 'number of rooms mapped in Mirror Realm' from rooms where area = 'mirror'
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Copy-paste it to avoid making mistakes.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "area keyword" to see what to put
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: "mapper thisroom" works as well, if you're there :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: .. with less spam
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, its got 162 mapped, there are 169 in area (and im missing a room for explo too, interesting)
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's only less spam if you don't include what you want...
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: mapper thisroom doesnt tell me the number of rooms in this area mapped
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "area keyword mirror" doesn't have much spam...
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper thisroom tells you the shortname of the area
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why you wanted it
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Oh, I didn't know that.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Cera, so it worked? Nice.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: -
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: heh, I set up an alias for that runsql thingy
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: now 'mapper mapped <area>
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: now 'mapper mapped <area>' does it for me.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Ummmmmm. I think you can set up an alias to run some GMCP query to get the current area ID and just have "mapper mapped" :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: nope,  not me.  :p  I haven't clue about GMCP
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: you could
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: i'm trying to make a quick script to wear my level 91 eq set.  i am basically doing a invsort male to get the items, copying and pasting those into excel/calc, and using formulas to concatenate 'get item male' and 'wear item male'.  is there a better way?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: there is a brute force script method 
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: .. using equipent ids
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher convulses as she shudders in disgust.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: .. using equipment ids:  get 123456 container, wer 123456
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: wear
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or use tps to put decent keywords on your stuff
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: then you can do things like get all.91 bag, rem all.41 wear all.91 put all.41 bag
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i personally have a variable with eq_itemlevel in the variable i have the wear location and the serial number, and i have an alias that switches out the items for me, and puts them in the bag
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: bard seems to know what they're doing with keywords :)
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: at least on there 171 set...
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: but if each clan uses a different grouped-by-level keyword convention, or none-at-all, a longer script results when using mixed clan equipment
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah...
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: lack of coordinated planning and foresight
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude cheers and sings... he is just BURSTING with joy!
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if they just put the level first such as 91seekers... then you can just get all.91 etc
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You can spend a tp to put as many keywords as you want on a single item.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: gets annoying with get all.seekers131 get all.gaardian131...
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I put keyword starling on all my stuff
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: expensive
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I agree it would be nice if there were standards for clan item keywords
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: But then clans would scream and cry about how their rights were being trampled on.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not if you applied it universally.  No reason to limit the call for standards to just clans, after all, since we can sell or otherwise acquire other players' stuff.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: invsort helps a lot too, all we really need now is just a get alllvl91 option or something like that :)
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: would go by item level and not keyword
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Anyone have any experience with Samsung's HT-E5500W Home Theater/BR PLayer?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: is there a good exp/second per mob tracker for mush that i can easyly add to my mush client?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~taramai/
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Does not save though.
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: thats perfect, i just wanna know what mobs are slighly better for exp
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: ty
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: is there one that shows the exp per second after killing each mob?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: this is better than nothing for sure Turie
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: anyone use sharptracker and know how to reset it to start the tracking over?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Would anyone know why my Communication Log is no longer capturing anything?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: still got channel tags on?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soris Tech: It might be to high up? Is it just blank?
T3/r7/2012-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Nope, it's right where it opened.  It's last input was on June 22 and it still displays it.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: my computer gives me a countdown before it disconnects from the internet lol, the computer time is stuck in a loop from 5pm-6:10 pm when the system time hits 5:45 i disconnect drom the internet, stupid computer =/
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: weird
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the hardware is going bad i believe, its not even telling me my battery is charging
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that doesn't really explain the countdown thing though
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that sounds virusy
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have no clue either lol, i just noticed the pattern today after almost a week of it happening
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have done full system scans with avast IS, spybotS&D
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: look at the "maintenance tasks"
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah only thing i could find on google for that is either you have a program that's doing it, or malware...
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i gonna guess the latter...
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: look at the "scheduled tasks" in the programs menu
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: lol sorry my time ran out
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: also try this site... http://www.eset.com/us/online-scanner/
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if ya don't find any tasks doing it :)
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i dont know why i did not just do a system restore =/
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: also, msconfig.exe may provide clues (if experienced at interpreting what information is supplied)
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have been over my msconfig with a fine tooth comb, i live on there always stopping crap from starting up
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah... restore is usually the best option before ya go installing cleanup crap that wipes out a clean restore image :P
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i go into services and stop the remote junk too
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: had a friend who got hacked that way recently
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: look at the crap in the C:\WINDOWS\TEMP subdir -- some malware likes to swap and store things there as a backup and to access
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Adobe likes to use c:\windows\temp to stay resident longer
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: look at the tasks to be done by mushclient/cmud/zmud/etcetera upon startup -- (also, something may be hiding in a plugin)
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: perhaps a badly coded "alarm" request
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im trying to remember the date it started, i used a microsoft fixit but i dont think that would have done it =/
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Why does youtube stop buffering a video when it's paused?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Is there a way to force it to keep buffering?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: something to do with them switching to html 5
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and no, not as far as i can tell
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: sigh, another 'upgrade' that isn't
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: soon, adobe flash will no longer be needed, and then jobs will be lost, thanks to html5
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: The lack of full buffering has nothing to do with HTML 5.  It's just Google being bleh.  You can stream the flv through a non-Youtube player and buffer it fully if you like, but that's a little involved.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It would be nice if I could let the damn video load up while it's paused though.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Anyone else noticed Google search becoming unresponsive in firefox?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Seems to work fine for me.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eerrtt Tech: why cant i use my android's shift to use the numbers
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: it wants you to get an iphone?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eerrtt Tech: very funny seriously now please
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What exactly is the problem? I'm not sure what you mean by Shift.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Which phone do you use?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eerrtt Tech: an LG-660 android
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: If you use the normal keyboard... it should be fine...
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Did you disable or change something recently?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Wait, does it have a physical keyboard?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eerrtt Tech: yes and it has a onscreen keyboard if you flip it
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: So ... if it is a hardware problem ... you're better off asking people who can see the hardware.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eerrtt Tech: what i actually am asking is when i use the shift and press the number in the game it shows symbols but out of the game it is fine
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What sort of symbols?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eerrtt Tech: !$%^&*( is what i got when i type the numbers
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: It seems some sort of shift lock is on. You're using the soft keyboard I guess?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eerrtt Tech: the soft keyboard?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Virtual keyboard.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eerrtt Tech: no the virtual one works but the actual press the button is not working
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hm, what is on the keys where you have !^#?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eerrtt Tech: w e r is none shift and on shift is one two and three
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: So you would normally press Shift+W for 1, Shift+E for 2, etc.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eerrtt Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Where do the punctuation marks come in then?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eerrtt Tech: on other buttons
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Which would be...?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eerrtt Tech: like on n k l b
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: So when you press Shift-W, instead of 1, the system gives you #, as if you had pressed Shift-N.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eerrtt Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Where are W and N on the keyboard?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eerrtt Tech: it is an standrad qwerty keyboard
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: That is an odd problem.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I am guessing the numbers are laid out differently from this... (URL in tell)
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eerrtt Tech: i just check when it i flip it it works ok
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Wait, it looks the same, actually.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Anyone uses webcamd from the Debian repositories?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sigh...MSDN on the fritz, productivity for the night gone :-P
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what does an email error "  <mailddress >  delivery temporarily suspended : host " mean? is that their host? my host? something else?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: mail@address
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Ummmm.. I'm in room 27742, in the The Mirror Realm maze. GMCP says there is an exit westwards from here. However, I'm bumping into a wall. What's up?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Is GMCP lying in mazes?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: gmcp shouldn't work in mazes
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: whine to fiendish
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: cmazes are random exits.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Is it possible you're not clearing exits correctly?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is why I believe.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cizra: My exits are -1 for all maze rooms. They have not exit marked due to random exits.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yes, but not all rooms have NESW exits in mazes, but GMCP thinks they're exactly NESW.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cizra: Type mapper thisroom.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: That's exactly what I was typing.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have a room 27743 for the room we are in, but the exits n, w, s, e are -1.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhyo Tech: does anyone know how to turn mush client into what it would be like if you where playing alta eon and if you where blind? what i mean is the notepad window
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: a plugin for visually impared?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: I believe he means some kind of visual appearance of the program
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhyo Tech: were you talking about me. sorry if so i missed what you said because i was trying to use mush client but it wasn't working for me.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalorn Tech: can someone help me with a quick question on mushclient please?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: type the question
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Possibly, but best to just ask the question :)
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalorn Tech: thanks, i'm trying to increase the font size as i'm on my 42 inch plasma tv and the font is too small, how do i increase it please?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: control alt G
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: o wait nm, its under world propteries
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: under file
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalorn Tech: i have world properties up now
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: should say font right there
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalorn Tech: i have general, appearance, input and scripting lists with a number of options underneath those headings
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird Lil' Salvanas Tech: not in mushclient? in mush, the font dialog is in the game options, accessed through ctrl-G, or directly to the tab with ctrl-5
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: oh i'm talking about aardmud client
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird Lil' Salvanas Tech: same thing. Kalorn, click on Output, under Appearance.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird Lil' Salvanas Tech: there should be a button for Font...
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalorn Tech: i have it, fixdays, regular - 9
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalorn Tech: ........increased to 15 with no visable effects
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalorn Tech: done thanks :)
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: courier new 4 lyfe yo
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Weird Lil' Salvanas enthusiastically high-fives Tech Bloke Danj!
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalorn Tech: much much better <cheers>
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalorn Tech: thanks guys
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalorn Tech: just need to configure the rest now..... :P
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: been using courier new since the mid-90s, it would look weird if I changed now
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird Lil' Salvanas Tech: What you need is a complete overhaul at once... go directly to Comic Sans, 
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: oh god no
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hate hate hate hate hate
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: even comic artists don't use comic sans!
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird Lil' Salvanas Tech: Hehehe. Worst font ever. Apart from Papyrus.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalorn Tech: ok, next question....how do i change the map to a different location on my screen? :P
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: move it
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Haha... During the launch of Microsofts new Surface tablet in Los Angeles on Monday, Windows president Steve Sinofsky, struggles when the device appears to crash. The tablet, running Windows 8, freezes as he tries to demonstrate how the new Internet Explorer allows the user to browse smoothly. Sinofsky swaps the tablet for a working model before continuing the demonstration.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: ouch
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at ATAA Jek.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: over under, 50 people got fired for that
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Still kinda funny.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: no, do you take the over or the under?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Under. :p
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is it easy to have multiple php login scripts running on the same website? eg, website.com/index.php(one login) and website.com/funstuff.php(different DB/users ect) without the site getting them confused?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: probably right, gaurantee someone lost their job
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Maybe. :p
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Jek: I do not know. Xbox had similar issues back some time ago.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: i can't see it, why would they want someone who'd worked on this project out working for someone else? esp since they kept it so under wraps
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: doesn't have to be someone on the project, maybe whoever set up that piece of gear, etc
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Jek: Considering when Xbox was first released, there were several thousand machines sent back due to hardware bugs and glitches.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: they had an extra on hand, 
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: what's that say :P
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: i actually had a question, i have a sound trigger for my mush when wars in my range come along, but i've tried to change the wav and it still keeps the old sound even tho the "test at the bottom uses the new sound i've picked
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: any idea why that is or why it wont pick up the new?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: thats weird
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: yeah i dont get it
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Did you save the trigger file and the world file too?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: yeah i thought i did but i'll try that, maybe i didnt save the world
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: hey anyone remember helping me figure out how to hook my laptop to my tv?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: i got the cord in the mail i was told should work, and im still having problems
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Totally Un Rhuli Tech: What kind of cord?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Sorry, don't have a tv, watch it on computer.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: This cable, I'm sure: http://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Digital-Audio-Ethernet-Connection/dp/B003CT2A6I
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: umm
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: the cordis HDMI on one end,and RCA/VGA on the other.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: i was told this should transfer the video from laptop to tv, but maybe not the audio, and im fine with no audio
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: computer has hdmi and tv has the RCA
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Should do both
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Then you may need to set up window to output to the display
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: hmmm...where am i going wrong? is there a computer program i need?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Totally Un Rhuli Tech: nah RCA doesnt have audio
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Totally Un Rhuli Tech: I dunno, you can try googling your problem.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: can you point me in the right direction Augen.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Rca can have audio, is it three pronged or 1 at the end of the hdmi cable?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: the cord has hdmi at one end, and red white yello, plus a vga at the other
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: HDMI to 3 RCA + VGA Cable M/M 1.8m/6ft    is what i got
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: any advise or a proper guide/website would help alot
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: plug in the rca to the appropriate spot in the back of TV, make sure the TV is on the corresponding input selection (if you plug into video 2, then use the remote to make sure the TV is on video2)
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: k, thats as far as i got 
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: and if it helps, im not aarding from the laptop im tryn to hook to tv
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: right click desktop, select screen resolution, click detect
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: does your laptop detect the tv?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: k1 sec, ill try that
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: nothing...
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: says another display not detected
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: hmm...Right click desktop, screen resolution then can you see the dropdown menu next to display?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Then see if you have a different video card or something out to the HDMI
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: yes augen
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: So see if there is an option in that dropdown for a second monitor out to the HDMI
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: and select that one
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: no just the onboard video
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: Sometimes on my laptop I have to close the lid for it to swap to the video out. But I dunno if that's helpful.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: I don't have to change any settings, I just plug in the cord and close the lid.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: the second display option didnt help, isnt for hdmi i dont think
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: just my masic realtec something or another
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Not really sure, kind of reaching the end of my expertise, what kind of laptop is it?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: gateway
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: gateway nv57h13u
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: On my laptop, I have to hit fn+F3, or some key combination to switch displays
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: fn+ one of the function keys
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: fn+alt+f3 on mine
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Rather annoying to use, to be honest
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: yes, that button does nothing for me, i press it and it just shows a picture of a laptop.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you have Win 7, and your video card can handle dual displays, you should be able to hit the windows key+P to switch between modes for your second monitor, I believe
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Sounds like your device isn't registering any other displays
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: ya
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: should be....but i cant ::(
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Oh, then you need to download drivers most likely
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: windows 7?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-32.aspx
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: ya 7
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: sorry on responce, jumping between rooms
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: is the gateway a MD2614u by chance?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: nv57h13u
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: then the gpu could be onboard which eans you need adriver form the gateway site
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: i have used an HDMI to HDMI cord with an tv that had HDMI and it was just plug and play, good to go...
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: but that was with the nicer tv with hdmi ports that my current tv does not have.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: every time my computer has to 'think' and the 'thinking/processing' light comes on, it makes sound through my tv,white noice kinda sound.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: so lame.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Maybe problem is TV side? or maybeyou need a specific driver to translate th eHDMI to rca
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: is there a magnetic interference block on the cable
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the round thingy clasped around the cable near where the video cable goes into the monitor
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: so tvworks my ps3 with same ports. the hdmi port has done hdmi to hdmi, the problem is why does my computer not netect i plugged in the rca?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: possibly?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: possibly what?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: also i have a HDCP HDMI to VGA + SPDIF RGB Component Ypbpr Converter box  it wont help me with this tv, but when i plug an HDMI to HDMI cord from laptop to converter box my laptop recognizes the converter box...
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: try the vga instead of teh rca?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: tv doesnt have vga.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: i have a friend on his way with a monitor, as all i have is laptops so no monitors
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: but ill try it when friend shows with the monitor, just to see, i already have him on his way
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lao Tech: make sure you plug it in right :P
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: Lao...really...how difficult is it...
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Troubleshoot it a bit, probably something simple
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lao throws back her head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: well, thank you very much for your time. atleast we tried.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: my girl woulda been sooo damn happy if i can figure this out tho....
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: ill get back to you when i try the cord with computer monitor
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: hey...
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: straw
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: grass
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: so i plugged the VGA end into the vga port on the laptop the hdmi end is plugged into. and it then recognizes it as a non PNP monitor...
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: good enough?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: lols no.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: wire is coming out of computer right back into same computer
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: just to see what it did, and it recognized it as a non pnp monitor...so the VGA part works, its for sure the RCA...
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: or for sure you don't have the right video input selected when you have it plugged into TV?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: i have tv set, i plugged in the ps3 i same ports and works just fine.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: unplug ps3, plug in the RCA cords for laptop....nadda
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: is the "rca" three plugs or one plug
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: 3
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: I think the problem is the RCA plugs are basically dumb. It can detect the converter box, it could detect a direct hdmi to hdmi connection, but the RCAs are one-way and the PC can't initialize it.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: But that's just my uneducated guess.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: And you're getting static through it because the cables are good and sending something, it's just not able to work with the PC.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Thus a need for a driver perhaps
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: also if the video plug is misplugged into a sound plug ..
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: trippled checked. its hooked up right.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: damn i need to learn to read the fine print
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: This item is only supposed to work with your device which has got the function of signal transfer
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: theres my answer huh?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: my tvisnt smart enough to say hello to my laptop pretty much...?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I doubt that
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: The handshake of a tv works even on the old cathode tv's if you have the right conversion attachments.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I've been in and out for a while here, what are you trying to show from your pc to your tv?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: Sinclair 80
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: my desktop and anything im doing on it at the time...
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: So you want to use it as an additional monitor, not for anything specific?
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: via an HDMI to RCA cable
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: I think the problem is that cable.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: well my girl mainly wants it for netflix, as the PS3 shows very small font when using netflix
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BullE rapidly nods twice at An Oath, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: an rca tv does not need nor want to say hello, merely to display and sound what is sent through the three cable wires -- something "noisy" is entering the tv through the cable
T3/r7/2012-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: My ps3 font isn't too bad, she can't read the synopsis's or what?
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: our netflix had to be delted from ps3 and re added(ar they thought it did) after we re added netflix to ps3 all font was much smaller.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: perhaps something is not grounded 
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: Does Netflix have a menu you can change that at?
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: not on ps3
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: no.there are ps3 settings you can change that will mess with fonts some, like the resolution
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: but i spent time on the phone with CS and came to realize im screwd.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: did Netflix work before they re-added netflix
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: works just as it did b4, just smaller font now. netflix changed the way it loads, wish i woulda kept the old version i had.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: but i gotta go, THANKS very much to everyone, i appreciate it very much.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: on a side note, is RGB the same as Ypbpr?
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Nope
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: RGB is red/green/blue, the other has a yellow channel, a blue channel, and a red channel... and depending upon standard, either yellow or blue will contain the black/brightness/intensity
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: hmm ok
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: my tv has Cb Cr Y and my converter box has  Pr Pb Y ...any way to connect the 2 with 1 wire?
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: no idea on that one
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: ya,i think its time for a new tv, im 50 bucks into cords/converters and no luck still. thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldehyde Tech: anyone know how Basts eqDB plugin works?
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/eqDB
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: did you read that?
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldehyde Tech: yeah i Did
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldehyde Tech: i typed eqDB lget bag 91 and it didn't work
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldehyde Tech: i typed eqDB lget bag 91 and it didn't work
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: you need to populate the DB i think you have to get/put the items
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: I think it's a range, you need 2 numbers.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldehyde Tech: did that
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: second number is supposedly optional, but I've been using an item keyword for the first argument after lget and it's worked
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: always wondered do you need to populate the eqdb yourself? or does it come with a preinstalled one?
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: you have to populate... it's a db of YOUR eq
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldehyde Tech: yeah but i want to get all items of a certain level from my aardbag
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: ah that's why I never could get it to work.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: keywords, are the answer...
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I tagged my equipment bag as 'eqbag' and can "eqdb lget eqbag 170 170" and it works
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: but make sure you've populated it with your bag contents too...
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: you can use item number i think
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: a "get all bag;put all bag" worked for me
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldehyde Tech: now the big question... how do i tag my item?
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldehyde Tech: what is my bag serial?
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: if you're using his miniwin equipment window, it makes it much easier
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: you can just click things and select identify, add keywords, etc
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldehyde Tech: you lost me there bru.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Is a bru like a bra or a bro?
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: bru is a bro with a brew
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was thinking impossibru
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: azn way to say bro
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: RAFF OUT ROUD
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldehyde Tech: cheers... gotta go.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: tally-ho m8
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: And if my Bro wears a Bra but has a Bru, am I all good?
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What's a good, free, lightweight image editor?
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: gimp?
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Only really need something that can change brightness/contrast and adjust red/green/blue
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I thought about gimp, but I don't need that much power
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: depends on your needs... Paint.Net is decent... Gimp...
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: instagram
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah paint.net is good
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm just editing formation (rock) cutting pictures for work, the camera takes them with too much blue component and the brightness isn't always good
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Pain.NET is probably plenty then
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Cool, I will look into paint.net, then
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Thanks all :)
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalorn Tech: what is the best font to have everything aligned correctly please?
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A cute Yulian Tech: currier new
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: On MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Any mono-spaced font will work
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Mono-spaced fonts.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalorn Tech: on mushclient yeah
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I'm using courier.  Some people swear by Lucida Console, especially if you're using smaller font sizes.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalorn Tech: i have font at 16 presently
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I used Droid Sans Mono.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: used to use Fixedsys, I believe.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Once you have a monospace font it's a matter of preference... everything will be in line.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalorn Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: comic sans monospace!
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: wingdings
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, it is monospaced....
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And we did say any monospaced font
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Dexter's Uber Ultra OverMax Super Duper Sans Mono Font of Awesomeness.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Is that what he uses to advertise his SUPER UBER MEGA GIGA TERA HYPER ZETTA YOTTA junk level 1 skins?
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tank Tech: anyone have a good spellup plugin for mushclient?  Mine is ok, but it tries to cast dropped spells during combat..kind of annoying
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast and winklewinkle both have spellup plugins
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tank Tech: I am using winkle's and have that issue
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Bast's one works better for me. I did have problems getting it to work at the same time as some of winkle's other plugins though.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tank Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tank Tech: trying to load Bast's plugins and I am getting a bunch of run-time errors...
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tank Tech: I am using winkle's mapper extender and when its enabled I am getting "sendgmcp request char" over and over again...any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Anyone know if I dual partition a hard drive, with a NTFS partition and a Fat32 partition, and host a set of movies on the NTFS partition and symbolically link to the video folder on the Fat32 partition, if a PS3 will recognize the movies? (PS3 required fat32 but fat32 can't handle the size of files I need).
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: that likely won't help
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Figured. Trying to work out a way without buying a NAS. I've been using a repurposed computer for it, but it's a hassle as I need the computer for other things around the house.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: CB, are you trying to identify those who have to deal with large video files?
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: And would really like to keep my wireless setup as much as possible. (Wires all over piss me off)
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Nah, I don't give a care less who pirates :P
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Or who collects porn, whatever reason you've acrued big files. I just want to finish setting up my media-center apartment :P
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: So i guess the next question, then, is does anyone have an elegant solution for this since the symbolic linkage won't work (likely)
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: cheap NAS: buy a lil HP thinclient, boot freenas off usb, and give it a few 1TB external HD's
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I've got an old HP compaq (don't hate, first computer I ever bought) that I could repurpose for it, but I'd need to invest in a cooling system or make it into a mineral oil computer (overheats alot)
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: hp thinclient, 800 mhz fanless VIA chipset, 128MB of ram, no disks. 
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: $35 on ebay
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, not bad.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: i use one for a PFSense firewall, most reliable router i've ever had
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Not a big fan of HP, really.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: nor i, but its a computer with NO MOVING PARTS.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: no fans, no HD.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: passive cooling
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: built in networking, and usb.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Any idea of if it works well with Time warner's motorola modem/router? It tends to be picky with a lot.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: you could use an embedded code like freenas on it most likely
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: a single user NAS it could likely pull off
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: On the motorola modem or the hp?
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Got decent experience with operating systems and networking, not so much with NAS.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if a computer is fanless and never overheats, then the electriciy usage must be low and inexpensive -- excellent for inexpensive mudding (and gaming?)
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: its a thinclient.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: which can be repurposed for small projects
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: like i said, i use it for a home router/firewall
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: boot from USB, add usb ethernet, pfsense, instant firewall
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if you are going to be at the computer like a mindless moron 8 plus hours a day doing nonproductive things, you likely prefer cheaper running costs
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: expensive electricity hog computers are for business
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: yes, i use an abacus at home, rarely need the complexity of a slide rule.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i mud from my toaster, my abacus' wireless was acting up
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: slide rules are too inaccurate -- use a $6 scientific calculator
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: you do realize we put things into orbit with slide rules?
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that's one helluva long slide rule
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I tried once, but it hit a tree on the way and broke.
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: rubber band around the end, pull 
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: *laugh*
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: we also blew up a teach because we're too damn stubborn to drop an inferior measurement system
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: wait, we ran billions of dollars into mars because of that
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: bad o rings blew up the teacher
T3/r7/2012-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: bad spec
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Is the fact that group followers show up in the next to last room entered a bug?
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Oh, I should've said "in the ascii map"
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eerrtt Tech: is the 16 GB ram the game server runs on even enough or would the game benefit from more ram
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Depends. You lagging?
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eerrtt Tech: sometimes but that can always be because my phones internet is not that good
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: is there a help file describing the aard server / similar tech details about aard? ;)
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eerrtt Tech: ok
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: is there really no other way to close applications than pressing the home button down and swiping them off the screen on a samsung galaxy s2?
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i use a custom rom which allows me to kill apps by holding back
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: S1 though
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: probably have something for s2
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alain Johns Tech: Anyone have the line Aard gives you when you try to recall out of a norecall room?
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: You cannot recall from this room.  or maybe  Magic walls bounce you back.
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Easy enough to hop into the first room of lemdagor and test iot
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: it*
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Whoever thought up ~= != and <> to ALL be used in programming, I wish to stab you. Repeatedly.
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Grow an imagination :P
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: /= too.
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And imagine stabbing them? Far less satisfying
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: There's around 3 different ways of testing things for equality in Lisp :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I keep putting ~= into my ASP, and then look at it dumbly trying to work out why all the red squiggles :-(
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Wtf is winlogon.exe?
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: According to google, it depends on where it's running from...
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: If it's not in C:WindowsSystem32, it's likely it's bad for your computer....
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: which file ?
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: which file ?
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: Google IO is live
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: How can I know if my macbook burns dvds?
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: what kind of macbook is it?
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Macbook pro
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: it does
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: dual layer too
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: awesome
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: So assuming 2 different users are using/working with copies of a SVN project, how would one go about pulling the updated version of one specific file and ONLY that file.
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: tech So assuming 2 different users are using/working with copies of a SVN project,
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: ack
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra has the temptation to answer "Use git-svn :-D"
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Anyways, how would one go about pulling an updated version of ONLY a specific file
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: just restarted mushclient and the main window no longer shows anything other than cp info?
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: "svn up /path/to/file"
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: svn update filename doesn't work?
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Nope, tries to update the whole project
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: doesn't for me
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: help?  as soon as i log on to aard i get the message --> Suspending paging... if enabled
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sounds like a winklewinkle script setting itself up
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Evidently Visible nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it does.. there is a known conflict with the prompt fixer plugin
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it turns off the "only show so many lines before stopping" setting, so that it can grab big info
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: fiendish's solution is to uninstall his prompt fixer plugin
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: i disabled it and problem remains.. is an uninstall necessary?
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, prompt fixer plugin can now be written to use the new prompt only command, so it's not waiting for the bottom of config...would that solve the conflict?
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: what does the MCCP proxy client do?
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: give you 2 qp per quest
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it allows you to get mccp bonus without a mccp-enabled client
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: hmm so is it an actual proxy
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a telnet proxy
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: in the sense that you can connect setup a connection with the proxy, and connect 2 clients to the server?
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I run my mushclient thru it to get an additional 2 qp on top of what is already given for MCCP (lie)
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: holy crap it's winklewinkle himself, *we're not worthy, we're not worthy!*
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: trust me.. you are
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: what app do people use for burning dvds on macs?
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cyne, no...that's not what an actual proxy is :-)
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Winkle probably wrote a bot that gets him extra qps.
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: good guess starling.. s&d made me actually like quests/cps after neglecting them for 2 morts =)
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: nice, you need to bot to like quests?
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: any suggestions? Are there any free dvd burners for OS X?
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: hmm i guess the only way i can ssh to a fully functional client on mac is to use tintin or something
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: i need to s&d to like them yes, call it what u want =P
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: in powershell if i am running the same command just with a different user how can i just stack them all in a script
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: for instance set-mailbox -identity "user" receivesizelimit 50mb
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: but i want to do 30 of those from the same script
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: when using Roxio Toast, do I need to extract the Iso when I burn it? if I just burn the ISO will it run automatically like it should on  insertion?
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: either form a wrapper script that calls with a parameter for user, or use an editor to form commands with the different users
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: varas, depends on how you do the project...if you're burning image to disc, then it's all done for you...if you select to burn data, then you'd need the files from the iso instead of the iso
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a couple free options for burning DVDs on the Mac are disk utility itself, and "burn" http://burn-osx.sourceforge.net/
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: anyone have a good suggestions for a BD player for WIN7?  the WINDVD BD I have drives me nuts.  For some reason when I'm watching a movie the sound is barely audible, but when I'm in the menu of the movie, sound is fine.
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: What's BD? And have you tried VLC?
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: bluray disc
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Having a bit of an issue here. My exptracker is set to reset when the MUD resets its rankings (i.e. weekly at midnight, Mondays). As such, I have: if os.date('%d',MUDTime) ~= trackerdb[zs.var.Base.name]["Exp"]["Resets"]["Week"] and os.date('%w',MUDTime) == 1
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: For some reason, however, it's not firing.
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The part that's returning false is the os.date('%w',MUDTime) bit. I checked print(os.date('%w',MUDTime)), and it returns 3. I then tested if os.date('%w',MUDTime) == 3 then print("true") else print("false"). It returns false.
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Any idea what's wrong?
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: try tonumber-ing it maybe?
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, or check == "3"
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That was it. Thanks.
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Kind of counter-intuitive, but I also kind of see the reasoning behind it.
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Etzli, that's what you get if you have a language without static type system. You get an illusion that it'll hopefully work. I suppose that's better for newbies, because otherwise they'd be told during compile time that their code is full of horse poop, which would be more discouraging than learning that at runtime. Excuse my rant.
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra shuts up now.
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'd rather learn that at compile time than at run time...
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra raises some hands. Me too.
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: well, the documentation does say it returns a string, cizra... ;)
T3/r7/2012-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Here Comes Trouble Tech: My Bast gquest window didnt toggle off and I've re-installed it but the mobs are still highlighting :-(
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: Bast Question.. I'm upgrading both MUSH and BAST at the same time.  Is there a file I need to move over from the old MUSH to the new to keep my stats?  Like my gqs, cps, quests, kills, etc?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: most likely stats.db in the logs folder, Cera
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: is windows 7 lighter to run than vista?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: in my experience, yes
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAA Jek Tech: especially if you don't run aero
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: dunno what that is but k. IC'll go for that then.
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: It's basically Themes or whatever they used to be. Makes it look pretty.
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: how is it possible that formatting with the windows 7 installation disc can take just under a minute, when formatting with the command prompt can take up to an hour?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I'm not entirely convinced that the whole 30gigs worth of system crap is flushed out under 1min
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Because it does a quick format?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: ahhh
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: It just wipes the allcation table, not the whole drive.
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: Allocation, even.
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: so could it leave viruses etc still on the drive+
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i just formatted a pile of faulty drives with a hammer
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: If you were infected, it can leave it. But those files shouldn't be opened, so if it's not memory resident it should eventually be overwritten.
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: alright, thanks :)
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you /really/ want to get rid of everything use dban
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: why is /really/ significant in this phrase? :D Will it leave me with totally dead hardware (no bios/system tools etc)
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it does a proper wipe. as in wipes everything
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: How does it work? Command prompt?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you want to get rid of the drive, use a hammer
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: had a pile of drives with bad sectors with customer data on them. the hammer worked great
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: dban.org
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Dagnir, no program can guarantee getting rid of everything. Unless it knows how to talk to hard drive firmware.
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: err. i think all drive software could talk to the firmware
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because, you know, that's why it's there in the first place
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my hammer couldn't talk to the firmware tho. i'm pretty sure it got rid of everything tho
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: What about automatically remapped bad sectors? They're absolutely invisible to the OS.
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, hammer is a better way if you want to be sure....
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: look up dban
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: it says not to unzip the dban, so if I burn it as an image (mount it) will it act like it would if I activated it?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Doh, bad english. I mean will it activate if I mount it just to burn it?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just bood from the cd you wrote
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: boot even
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I haven't written it yet, but if I burn the zip onto a cd it won't boot from it since the computer doesn't recognize a zip file, right? I'd have to actually burn the contents of the zip to the cd for it to work
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or you could use an usb key with yumi and dban image
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not a zip file
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: ohh it's an iso
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: righto
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: burn the image, boot from cd. very simple
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i prefer to use yumi tho
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: why is it important that the hdd is fully formated?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I feel at ease knowing that everything's starting from scratch. I hate to go through formatting and reinstalling the OS if after a month of use it's still running slow and full of crap
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: don't think it works that way
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: it doesn't?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: running processes make the os slower not full hdd
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Dagnir, yeah, dban doesn't talk to firmware directly. So it's exactly as good as Linux's dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda.
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Duckbat: you're right, but a fresh format removes all the processes that were running before.
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: then it doesn't matter if you format fast or thoroughly
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: And that clean and easy feeling lasts till the next time 200 programs are installed on the hard disk... so, say, about another 3 months.
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Maybe 5 to let the cruft really stack up.
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Varas: are you using Windows?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I'm using MAC, but I've got a couple of laptops here I have to install windows 7 on
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: not mine so not really my prob lol. But I'd like to do it right.
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Oh, I don't think Mac would be susceptible to that problem, right?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: What problem?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: slowdown due to processes?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yeah.
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: After all, if you throw enough money at it it should run fine.
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I haven't experienced it, but I haven't really geeked it out either (emulators, multiboots)
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Classic.
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: That's the Mac philosophy :P
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Yeah, or just bitter talk from people not using it. :P
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Heh, guess the OS I'm running :P
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I have a macbook, but my phone's an android.
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I really don't care if I'm running windows or os x, but I like it to run fast and smooth
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I don't see the point using the Windows philosophy on a Mac...
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: it's got everything to do with how you use it, so it's not the OS, it's the user..
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: "Oh look, something's wrong. A reformat should fix it if a reboot doesn't."
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Well when you don't really have technical knowledge in the field, it's nigh impossible to fix the problem otherwise
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: so far I haven't had to put any more money or dl software to fix my computer other than when I bought it.
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: And that's great for me. :)
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: is any way to delay a trigger to execute?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: how to? :) i catch a message and send a command to execute..but i need 1 second delay :)
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: need to send to script and make os.time() - var = 1 then send("command")?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Use DoAfter function. http://helengammon.com/scripts/doc.php?function=DoAfter
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: anyone proficient in Outlook 2010?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skywise Tech: does anyone know if i can mccp on tye android client ?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: blowtorch is mccp by default
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: so this laptopl
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: so this laptop it gets bogged down, how do i refresh my computer to go faster without restarting
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: windows machine?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: yes, windows 7
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: Find administrative tools>services under control panel (or similar, I use vista), and stop any services you dont need
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: you could also press ctrl alt delete, bring up task manager and close down anything you arent using
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: easy, stop watching porn =/
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: lol, all i use is aard and chrome for facebook...
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: is there likea virtual memory restarter tool, my buddies dad had one of them. ill check ot the services
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: not seeing that in control pannel
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: w7 or vista?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: 7
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: windows 7 home premium
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: why can't you restart?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: its my aard machine, and if i restart mush it wont recall all the very commonly used commands i use when im half way done typing a command i used b4 all i do is hit the up arrow
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: you could try this link bulle - http://windows7themes.net/windows-7-services-safe-to-disable.html
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: has anyone tried W8 yet? its in beta right?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: thanks voder, this looks very helpful
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: hmmm, theres ALOT of stuff on this list, some looks important
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: yup, quite a bit *is* important, just disable obvious ones that you dont use
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: i.e. if you dont use a printer, disable the printer service, or just stop the service to temporarily release memory
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: k.
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: that will save 2-4mb on its own, there are a few others you can safely disable: Offline Files/SSDP Discovery/IP helper/Secondary Logon/Windows Media Center Service Launcher/Windows Search/Remote Registry/Distributed Link Tracking Client
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: changing windows from chrome to mush goes faster now, nearly instant. was like 5 seconds lag
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: dude the theme is the main one
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: i turned off the theme, it made everything look oldschool like wins 98ish
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: MILLION times faster.
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: nice, well done
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: yup, im TRYING to get it to lag andi cant *grin   thanks very very much
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: np =]
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: will the services i stoppedstart again on startup still? if not my moms not gunna be happy about the theme being gone, lol
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: Yes, if you just stopped them, the service will restart next time, if you disabled them, they will never restart
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: tbh, its well worth spending an hour or two one evening with a cold beer, and go through your services one or two at a time, disable, reboot and test the machine until you find the "sweet spot"
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: if anything stops working that you need, you can just re-enable it and continue through the services until you are happy
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: I do this on all new machines, the performance increase is well worth the investment in time
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: there wasnt a disable option, just start stop and restart...
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voder Tech: mm, in Vista you can right click on a service, or double click its name and you get an options box pop up 
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: ahh ya. ur right
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Having another odd issue with cmud, certain lines are being duplicated on screen
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I had that issue with CMud when I was using it, and I never resolved it
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: I am using aard mush. I had it all perfect last night but now it seems to be in paging mode or something, I can see chat updates in my comm log but in the main window its not showing anything. Anyone know how to start it back up?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatzy Madcatz Tech: It's not showing anything at all in the main window?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: only what I type. but NO response from the game
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: I can type, it posts on the main window, and I can see it in the com log, but again, no game response at all in main window. just client side
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatzy Madcatz Tech: Try just logging out/closing MUSH, and logging back in?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: same issue here and work
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: when I type something it bumps like the tiniest bit but doesn't budge
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: ok i guess rebooting works if you do it 3 times
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garofin Tech: any ideas how to get mana back into my prompt? apparently, cmud doesn't like percent m\
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riversong Tech: I'm guessing you need to escape it. Try %%m?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riversong Tech: or \%m
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garofin Tech: sweet.
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riversong Tech: been a long while since I used cmud, so don't remember the specific way to escape characters
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ~
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garofin Tech: that was it
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garofin Tech: was trying every escape char i could think of - would not have thought of that
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garofin Tech: thanks hadar!
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riversong Tech: silly zugg
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: confuses me when i go from web-dev to cmud i have tried to put php in place of zscript and was like, thats not right =/
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: if you want to "alias a hold portal;enter;hold something;runto <place>" and the place is variable, how do you put it in alias?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: my wiki has an alais to do just that
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolf-scriptalicious/wiki/MapperHelp
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: why dont you have a plugin to ignore regular cps on gqs?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: perhaps i do
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: i thank you for your s and d regardless.
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you are most welcome tiana
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Agreed, takes the Tedi out of Tedious :p
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: no scripting please. if you want to "alias a hold portal;enter;hold something;runto <place>" and the place is variable, how do you put it in alias?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: You don't, without a script.
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yes, you can
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: If you are using mush the alias is quite easy
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: ok. thanks.
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: i'm using mush. how do i do it?
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You make a variable in Mush, reference it inside the alias with arname
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Then be sure to check the Expand Variables box in the alias
T3/r7/2012-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Alias name portal * and then get 1% bag, and so on
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: so i won't be able to use the alias if i'm on a phone then?
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, they aren't mudside aliases, they are mush alaises
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: aliases*
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: i get to use it only on mush. ok.
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: sorry should read Alias name portal * and then get %1 bag, hold %1, enter, remove %1, put %1 bag, dual whatever
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Not gonna have a variable alias mudside If I understand correctly
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: it's ok. i won't do it anymore. i'll just make an alias and then have to runto separately.
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: It's not illegal and quite easily done in MUSH
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Game>configure>Alias>add
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: w7:this little window that appears when mouse is on the icon on the bottom of the screen. can it be made like.. permanent somehow?
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: nope.
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Anyone know if there is a vnc client for linux that resizes the contents of the window instead of cropping them if you resize the window?
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazir Tech: Is 'mapper purgezone' the correct command to restart a map on an area? (I'm trying to explore all of Underdark, but it comes pre-mapped, it seems)
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazir Tech: Brilliant, thanks.
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Be aware any cexits will also go
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kazir Tech: It's fine - I don't have any
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I have a prob
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: again
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I have a toshiba satellite L650D, and I reinstalled windows 7 on it. Now I can't turn on the wlan card physically because the keyboard doesn't recognize the FN+F8 combo anymore
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I tried altering services to automatically enable wifi
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: but the wifi light isn't doing anything
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I installed wlan drivers, so that shouldn't be a problem either. I'm stumped.
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hey guys and gals. What is the rooms_lookup table for in Aardwolf.db?
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone ever attempt to get blob data from a mysql server on cmud?
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: my bast events mini window has gone completly black (except for a small part inthe upper left corner.. any idea how to fix?
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: when running it seems its like 2 fast steps with a short delay. is this normal or some technical issue? i rember run working smoothly.
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: mush
T3/r7/2012-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: anyone here a programmer... that knows a lawyer?
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: How do you activate comm info for GMCP?
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is none
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm using tintin++, and sending "comm 1" in the IAC ... ah, there is none?
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: There is a comm subclass though.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, channels come across it
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but not info
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yeah, I didn't mean literally info but information in the comm subgroup.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, then as long as you're including a comm 1 in your core.supports.set, then it'd be on
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can verify which gmcp things are on by typing prot gmcp
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I did, it's not on.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you send comm 1, what is that whole line?
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what should be sent within a gmcp packet is "Core.Supports.Set [ "Char 1" ]"
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: The #send is {};
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'd leave all the other modules wherever they were already set, and would turn on comm
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: The #send is {};
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Gah. Hang on.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: The #send is {$IAC$SB$GMCP core.supports.set [ "char 1", "char.status 1", "comm 1" ] $IAC$SE};
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: The #send is {*IAC*z*I core.supports.set [ "char 1", "char.status 1", "comm 1" ] *IAC*SE};
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: take out char.status 1
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Oh, why?
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't turn on/off the subs, just the mains
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'll try that. But as of now I seem to be getting comm.channel...
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Odd, prot gmcp showed comm was off before.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Now it's On.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Not sure what I changed.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it may just ignore unknown things in the supports set then, so the char.status doesn't do anything good or bad
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: So you're saying char.status is redundant.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'll reload and see.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hmm, now it's off again.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you put it into your config file that does the whole gmcp setup?
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yup.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: And now it's on again.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You roll on the floor, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: So ... I think it wasn't a clean reload of the settings.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: How do I turn off comm.channels.pokemon?
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 'gametalk'
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's like pandora's box, eh?
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: #gag Vakieh; #gag Electrobite; #gag ElementPyros..
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What is like Pandora's Box, Abelinc?
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But...then you won't hear my epic burnz!
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the floodgates of comm.channels you just opened :P
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: and something evil has slithered through
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Abelinc: nah, I already have the channels on, of course.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I know...gmcp only sends the channels which are turned on normally
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Interesting aside - Hope, considered to have been imprisoned inside Pandora's box by mistake, is considered an Malady by some, as it is usually false.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by some what?
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: By some Greek mythological historians
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Also by some random people on the internet.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: historians decide what is a malady?
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hope
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Please only hijack one channel at a time, Vakieh.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Remember, Pandora opens the box, all the sicknesses and maladies fly out of it, she closes the box, hears "No, let me out too" - so she opens it again, and out flies hope?
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: in mushclient is there a way to specify the level for portals after you've already mapped them?
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check mapper portallevel
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: thx
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ugh. Anyone's uni use Blackboard? The new update makes my eyes bleed worse than Boot's logo :-(
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: blackboard instances are visually customizable. talk to your school technical administrators
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I use whiteboards instead, cleaner fingers.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: mine remains its soothing customized appearance
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, I know they can be customised - my uni just says 'use the default'
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so talk to them about changing that
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: not even a uni logo?
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The default looks like Facebook had sex with Mr low contrast greyscale
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Uni logo is the link pic, nothing else
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: is it me or does the google play store app consme alot io data.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: Anyone know how to configure mame32 ?
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beardly Tech: anyone do iOS programming - Do you need a Mac to do it successfully?
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beardly Tech: bastards.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: Is the number of mobs killed, as displayed in whois, exposed as a gmcp value, tag, or other form?
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Not that I'm aware.  It's not a terribly useful number anyways.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: No, however the number of mobs killed since joining a group is.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: so just installed bullguard on my computer not sure if its related, but I can no longer connect to aard using aard mush, says cant configure tcp/ip socket for aardwolf
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: any ideas
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: plz send tells as i'm on flash flient
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: flash client
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: sounds like firewall blocking traffic?  create a rule i guess
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, you can see if bullguard's to blame by temporarily disabling it...
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: bull guard did not come up with a allow or do not allow and disabled its firewall and still didn't connect
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: surely it maintains some kind of log of what it blocks?
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: tried using my backup mush files too and still problem
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: i checked the log, mush was in no way in the log
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: then uninstall it, to see if it's the problem, if it can't be disabled.
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: try a raw telnet connection to the MUD
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: i already disabled the firewall and it didn't allow mush to connect to aard
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: i don't even know how to use raw telnet on windows 7 lol
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go into Internet Options -> connections tab, click LAN settings...make sure all 3 options are UNchecked
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: believe you have to install telnet as a windows feature on windows 7. it's there, just have to install
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: yup
T3/r7/2012-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some internet security programs set themselves up as a proxy to your Internet, so even turning off the firewall doesn't give clear access